Talk:Arrow'd Guy

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Contents 1 An official name? 2 Real name? 3 Mrs. So-and-So-Erson/Man with the Huge Mouth 4 You little brats best get a life 5 I'm here to settle the argument once and for all!

An official name?

Taken from the store, regarding the new "Everybody! Everybody!" poster: "All of your favorite characters are here from A, Arrow'd guy to Y, Yello Dello and everyone in between." Does everyone else consider this to be a good enough source? I'm afraid I don't know how to go round editing these. (That's to say I think I do but I know I'll screw something up.) Psi 02:59, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Considering TBC maintain that store, I think it's safe to change TMWTHM's name. --Gafaddict 20:07, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

thefreakyblueman-- I made the animated GIF over there. w00t

Would anyone object if this article were moved to Arrow'd Guy? It's better to use TBC-official names. Homestar Coder 17:09, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Go for it. (I wish there were a punctuation mark between a period and an exclamation point; that's what I would have used in that sentence.) — It's dot com 17:35, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Maybe an exclamation point without the period? Or would that make it more enthusiastic? Homestar Coder 18:02, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I meant that I wanted to be supportive of the project, but not weirdly so. "Go for it." didn't seem like enough, but "Go for it!" seemed like too much. I tried to move the page myself, but I can't delete the old redirect page. — It's dot com 18:09, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I just feel difficult in wanting to keep TMWTHM, since Arrow'd Guy just refers to his first appearance, but, hey. TBC did use it. -- Mithent 19:35, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm all for leaving it put, because "Arrow'd" DOES only refer to his first appearance. --Jay (Talk) 20:05, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Um, at this point you're all for changing it back. All the links have been converted; we're just waiting for the old Arrow'd Guy page to be deleted so this page can be moved there. — It's dot com 20:14, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The page hasn't moved yet. Anyway, you know what I mean. --Jay (Talk) 20:15, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm just saying that no articles point to this page anymore, and leaving it where it is is no longer the path of least resistance. — It's dot com 20:20, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm not talking from a path of least resistance point of view. This character doesn't have a REAL official name (Arrow'd Guy is just as much a name as The Man with the Huge Mouth) and "Arrow'd Guy" covers only one of his eight/nine appearances. --Jay (Talk) 20:23, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Three things:

1. As an official name goes, "The Man with the Huge Mouth" is cumbersome, arbitrary, and made up by us.
2. "Arrow'd Guy" is actually a useful descriptive term. As in, he's the guy who's always killing the TGS girls, and when he does they're "NOUN'd" in some way.
3. When choosing between the two names, we'd might as well use the one TBC use. We're not talking about a passing reference in an interview or anything—when they made their poster, at some point they had to ask themselves, "Is this what we really want to call this guy?" They had the chance to give him a name, and they did.

It's dot com 20:57, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Note that the poster does not reference his first appearance (i.e. he's shown mouth closed & no arrows), and yet he is referred to as Arrow'd Guy. -- tomstiff 21:10, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I have to agree, but I'm biased because I never liked the name "The Man with the Huge Mouth". The guy on the poster has no arrows, and TBC still call him "Arrow'd Guy". That's official enough for me. Homestar Coder 22:45, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I very much agree with Aurora. —BazookaJoe 22:52, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Then, Aurora, would you delete the old Arrow'd guy so that we can move this page there (and preserve the histories). — It's dot com 22:55, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's already been moved, right? Homestar Coder 23:48, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yep. — It's dot com

Though not neccisarily an official name, "Arrow'd Guy" is the only name TBC have given us. I say it's best to go with any thing TBC give to us instead of making up our own. —FireBird|Talk 23:10, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

What about Visor Robot, AKA the "Fhqwhgads Robot"? It has an "official" alternate nickname but we don't use it either - and there's only one thing that makes it different from this (the "Visor Robot" predates any connection to Fhqwhgads.) --Jay (Talk) 06:07, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't really want to open another can of worms here, but if TBC call the robot "the Fhqwhgads Robot," then I would support our calling him that, too. But that's a discussion for another day and another talk page. — It's dot com 06:40, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Real name?

Someone has been going around editing all the pages that say The Man with the Huge Mouth and changing it to "Spazo", claiming this to be TMWTHM's real name. I've reverted their edits for now, is there any evidence supporting the idea that his name is Spazo? --Kilroy 17:12, 26 Oct 2004 (MST)

No, there isn't any such evidence. Your reverts were prudent. Thanks. — InterruptorJones[[]]

Mrs. So-and-So-Erson/Man with the Huge Mouth

I'm still not entirely convinced that Mrs. So-and-So-Erson is actually The Man with the Huge Mouth. There's an obvious similarity in appearance, of course, but that doesn't necessarily mean that she is he. --TheNintenGenius 20:17, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)

Perhaps. But, 1. If not, then episode 8 really is the only TGS episode lacking MitHM. 2 It's funnier (IMHO) to think of them as the same character. I suppose only Strong Bad really knows for sure, though. Though I consider Mrs. SaSe's bald head and Adam's apple (look closely) to be VERY telling. --Jay 21:13, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)

It could just be playing off the expectations of seeing the MwtHM as well, making drawing Mrs. So-and-So-Erson like him very deliberate. Since it's all a matter of conjecture, though, I still wonder if it should be listed as cold hard fact. --TheNintenGenius 21:49, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)

Either way, Mrs. Sase is probably not really a woman. --Jay 13:12, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

I'd agree that Mrs. SaSE isn't the MwtHM. Strong Bad and Stinkoman are similar, but that doesn't make them the same person. --Upsilon.

But then, the Thnikkaman and Bubs are similar, and they are generally accepted to be the same person. --Jay 13:54, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

My point is that we can't assume they're the same just because the two of them are similar. It's pretty obvious that Bubs is the Thnikkaman, but how can we say for certain that SaSE=MwtHM? --Upsilon

What, it's not obvious to YOU? Mrs. Sase looks just like the MwtHM (with some accessories). Same nose, same bald head, same hairdo if you don't count the curls added to Mrs. Sase, same head shape, same tendency toward harming or mocking the girls - the only real difference is the mouth (and that could just be because Mrs. Sase is wearing a ton of lipstick.) I mean, just picture the Thnikkaman with the moustache he was originally supposed to have, and a purple shirt instead of orange, and that's about all the difference that exists between MwtHM and Mrs. Sase. I mean, how do YOU know that it isn't a Bubs lookalike? --Jay 10:53, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

Tendency towards harming the girls? What, you mean like every other being in the TGS strips? And yeah, the Thnikkaman could be a Bubs lookalike for all we know, but since without the taped-on sign and sunglasses (both of which are merely accessories) he is identical to Bubs, it's fair to assume that they're the same person. Not the case with SaSE, whose curls and large lips distinguish her from MwtHM. Furthermore, there are two people who look like MwtHM in the Decemberween ep, so perhaps there are a lot of people in the TGS's world that look like that. --Upsilon

And I'm actually not so sure that it would be wrong to say that Strong Bad = Stinkoman, at least when they were first created. (Though they've sort-of co-existed more recently, such as in 3 Times Halloween Funjob.) MwtHM and Sase have yet to co-exist. --Jay 14:15, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

So do the Poopsmith's shovel and Carol. Therefore, they are the same object...? --Upsilon

Totally different. (And there's probably and exception, but no reason to bother looking for it.) Regardless of their actual identities, Stinkoman was at least based off of Strong Bad very heavily. Similarly, Mrs. Sase was at least based off of MwtHG. --Jay 10:53, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

I won't deny that. In fact, I may even go as far to say that she's a female equivalent. But to say that they are the same person is mere speculation. --Upsilon

Well, not so "female" (you see that Adam's Apple?) But yeah, I see where you're coming from. I still think they're meant to be one and the same, but we really have no evidence one way or the other. As long as we at least keep the fact that Mrs. Sase is based on MwtHM I won't complain to much. --Jay 11:38, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

Well, I think it's best to agree to disagree here and keep the article NPOV. --Upsilon

Only reason I wrote it in, er, "POV" in the first place was because it was SO FRIKKING OBVIOUS (to me) that they really were supposed to be one and the same... I'm still surprised you guys disagree, but I'll live with it. --Jay 14:51, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

Sense Mrs. So-and-So-Erson's status as The Man is now "maybe", should we bring back this declined fun fact? --Trogga 14:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

You little brats best get a life

Would you guys get off this? You obbsessed people are fighting over whether a bald woman is a bald man or not! Get a life, y'all.

-Bri

Postal Service: And quit using abbreviations! Are you so lazy that you can not type easy words like the Man with the Huge Mouth and Missus So-and-So-Erson? Gosh, you bums!

1. This is a talk page. There is no rule stating we need to spell everything out on a talk page. And everyone knows who we mean when we type MwtHM and Mrs. Sase. On the main article pages, I would not dream of typing out "Mrs. Sase".

2. We're not fighting. We're debating.

3. This Wiki is devoted to giving quality information. Isn't it worth it to debate which information IS quality information?

4. Was this complaint REALLY worth not only a new heading, but a heading with a DUPLICATE NAME?! --Jay 03:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

Not to mention that if you didn't want to see people obsessed with Homestar Runner, you probably shouldn't have come to the Homestar Runner Wiki. ;) *changes the title appropriately* --Upsilon

• Well, I generally agree with you Postal Serivice, but It would take up so much more space on the page to type out the whole thing. Back to topic... I think that they are one and the same. If you removed the clearly faux lips and open her mouth then she'd look just like The Man with the Huge Mouth.→evin290 14:32, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)

I'm here to settle the argument once and for all!

• Mrs. Sase (Mrs. So-and-so-erson) HAS to be the AG (Arrow's Guy)! How could that not be? Why would the AG appear in EVERY single issue (including the mini-issue in "HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS") only to be excluded in issue#8? He's a Teen Girl Squad tradition. It's just like the Marzipan's Answering Machine tradition where Strong Bad ALWAYS leaves at least one prank call. Someone also said earlier on this talk page that since there were 2 AGs in issue#6, and that means that there are probably a lot of people who look like that, meaning that Mrs. Sase isn't the AG, despite how similar they look. Well I disagree. Sometimes, characters get duplicated for no real reason. In the holiday toon "Senorial Day", there are 2 Homestar Runners. In the sbemail "pizzaz", there are 2 Strong Bads. And in the puppet short "Everybody Knows It", there are 3 The Cheats. And also, for those people who say Mrs. Sase doesn't have a big mouth like the AG, it's because she has about 2 tons of lipstick on. If you removed the lipstick, along with the eyelashes and curls, she would look EXACTLY like the AG. Therefore, the AG and Mrs. Sase are the same person. Who here agrees with me? --Ian911299