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[edit] Forum Link

Sorry I don't know proper wiki syntax here, but seeing this thread: made me remember that lots of articles have a "view forum thread re: this toon". I'd say this thread qualifies. --Forum user, strongio bros. 3 // edited as anonymous -- April 2, 2014, 12:49 AM @ GMT -6

On it, thanks for pointing it out! Next time, be bold and add it yourself! --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 06:03, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
I disagree, seeing as that thread is less about the toon and more about the fact that they updated. RickTommy (edits) 02:16, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Length

Could someone who has more accurate equipment than I do put the length of the toon on the page? Thanks! Stev0 18:57, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Desktop Themes Fun Facts

What would you juys say to just putting all Fun Facts related to the Desktop Themes (including the sounds, but not including the visuals during them) on the Homestar Runner Desktop Theme and Strong Bad Desktop Theme pages? I still feel like that fact about the origin of Homestar's song is a bit redundant - maybe moreso - and I'm not too keen on duplicating the "Windows startup sound" fact here either. --Jay (Talk) 07:10, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Subtitles

Because this toon is featured on the index page right now, the subtitles linked to it on the wiki are actually the subtitles for the normal index page. Will it be possible to distinguish between Index and April Fools' 2014 by the Flash file itself, so that Debra Simone the Internet can contribute some English (and then other-language) subtitles? -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 09:27, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

I recently added the work in progress subtitle using the toon's SWF file and it works! I'm now currently making the English subtitles for it, so expect that soon! --Anthonyjk 00:41, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Still, the page is named index. That means if the Brothers Chaps move the SWF file you'll probably have to rename the page. Plus the other subtitles for index are still linked to the April Fools' page. I just have a feeling that the wiki wasn't designed to handle such a scenario (the index page being replaced with a toon for more than one day). -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 02:42, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

[edit] homestars eyes

in this toon, the shiny spots on homestars eyes move according to where he is looking. is this normal? if so, this is the first time ive noticed it, but if not, i see three possibilities:

1. it was an intentional style change, or it was done specifically to emphasize parts of the acting in this toon (though it would normally be frowned upon in animation, because the shiny spots on characters are determined by lighting and not by orientation)

2. the chaps could be rusty, having not animated the HR characters in a while

3. someone else animated this toon

thoughts? -- 02:25, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, that's normal. The same kinda thing is seen in business trip, where he rolls them. That'sBupkis! 03:30, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
I'll be honest, though. It caught me off guard to see Homestar's eyes being so expressive. At the same time I was also too excited to care about it, because of how unlikely it was that the site updated.
As for the animation style, it's the Chaps all the way. They have mastered the art of doinking and the fans would notice if there was actually a different animator involved. So I guess Homestar mastered the art of poinking, then.
It appears that The Chaps were rusty, though, at least during W00tstock. They (and by "they", I assume just Matt) put the fez on SB's head, but when they went to add Homestar, a small triangle appeared in front of SB's face. But I digress. It's just an emphasis on the acting, Anonny. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 09:27, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't even see this thing that Anonny is talking about happening in this toon. Homestar's eyes do flip horizontally to show his focus - this has always happened - but, as far as this toon is concerned, I don't otherwise see the glare in his eyes doing anything unusual. --Jay (Talk) 17:59, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, you're right, it's just his eyes flipping horizontally. How often did that happen before, though? He usually just turns his body around to indicate his focus. It just feels really off-model when he turns to the audience asking if they want to see the "Two Great Guys". His eyes aren't usually flipped like that, as far as I remember. Plus, when Strong Bad says "Hit it, Homestar!", Homestar's eyes are flipped and displaced slightly. Again, it just seems really... wrong.
...Also, didn't realize this before, when he closes his mouth during "...eeeeenduh!" he has an extra frame of mouth animation between the usual "open and not O-sound" and "closed". It happens at frame 3250.-- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 18:21, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
It happened at least as early as A Jorb Well Done. Compare frame 340 of that toon to frame 825. --Jay (Talk) 18:33, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
Wait. Then it is more than just eyes flipping. The little white dot is moving in April Fools 2014. Compare Homestar facing left and looking right on frame 340 of Jorb with Homestar facing left and looking right on frame 2817 of April Fools. The white dot is on the right both times, but the rest of his eyes are flipped. That's what is uncommon about it.-- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 19:31, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
Ah, I see what you're saying now; I somehow missed it before. Still, I wouldn't say it's due to them being "rusty", since we already have a precedent for that. They just wanted to make it clearer that Homestar was looking toward Strong Bad (instead of straight forward) without having him turn his head. --Jay (Talk) 01:34, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Five, Ten, Fif-what?

Upon watching for the first, fifth, tenth, etc. time and not paying close attention, I heard strong bad say "fifteen". However, after a recent edit suggesting fifty which was quickly reverted, I listened to it again, and it DOES sound like he's saying "fifty", especially with the slight pause beforehand. I think the point of the joke is supposed to be "number, number times two, really high number unrelated to sequence". I think it's unfortunate that they picked a number which sounds similar to the next in the sequence. I am, however, not 100% positive on this, so i've brought it to the talk page for everyone else to weigh in on. Thoughts? — Defender1031*Talk 20:41, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Pretty much the same thing. I listened to it twice before reverting because I wasn't sure either. I think my primary reason for reverting was that the number Strong Bad said had the accent on the second syllable. And on a subsequent listen while writing this, I'm not even sure if that's true. It could be fifty. The Knights Who Say Ni 21:39, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
I actually hear it on the first syllable (which is why it's harder to identify the second... it's not as clearly enunciated). — Defender1031*Talk 21:46, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
What's the policy on footnotes? Would this be a good place for one? The Knights Who Say Ni 22:51, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
Based on where I've seen them before, it seems like a perfect place to me. As for official policy, I couldn't say for sure. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 17:50, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

[edit] The Compy isn't the one Strong Bad used to have...

It's another one he probably brought somewhere between Which Ween Costumes? and this one.

That would be speculation. — Defender1031*Talk 18:27, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes, but it's literally the only logical reason why.
And that is literally only your opinion, and still speculation. — Defender1031*Talk 17:35, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

[edit] The 2 Great Guys

So I noticed a couple of things about this "album" that might be references, and in fact are probably generic references, but aren't clear enough to include as fun facts.

First of all, the name "The 2 Great Guys" seems like it might be referring to 3 Great Guys, but there is no resemblance to its cover. Like Homestar and Strong Bad being household names in the context of the website, Paul Anka, Sam Cooke and Neil Sedaka were already quite famous when this album was made.

Secondly, "Compy-directional sound" has to be referring to one of the many sound advancements in vinyl records, but I can't put my finger on which one exactly. It somewhat resembles some "stereo[phonic] sound" labels, but it could also be referring to something like "high-fidelity", "quadraphonic sound" or the artificial "duophonic sound". Also, the phrase resembles "omni-directional sound", which some speakers or stereo systems have, but which has nothing to do with the record itself.

If anyone has any better information about what the references might be, add a comment below. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 12:13, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Toon link

The index.html link no longer works for me. Am I the only one with this problem, if I'm not than I think someone should change the link to the swf file, I would, but it might just be me. Retrogamer39

Yes, the index page was restored last week. Thanks for catching the link on this page. The Knights Who Say Ni 05:01, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Forum thread

I removed the link to the forum thread on the basis that it is about the fact that TBC updated more than the toon itself. However, it has recently been re-added. So I'd like to bring this up: should it belong, especially since this toon does not have an "official" forum thread? RickTommy (edits) 06:45, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, you shouldn't have removed it in the first place. This is the correct forum thread to link to. — Defender1031*Talk 12:26, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Days total

Sorry about the mess of edits, but I didn't think "days total" was necessary to provide and I have a terrible habit of not using the preview button. StarFox 03:50, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Edit summaries are another feature you might find helpful, so we at least know why you're making the changes you're making. In this case, though, I see nothing wrong with displaying days total. Lira (talk) 06:29, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
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