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User talk:RickTommy

Heimstern Läufer — Wed, 22 May 2013 13:57:04 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* Block explanation yet again */ to demonstrate a pattern

[[User talk:RickTommy/Archive|Archive]]

== Wits' end ==

We have asked you repeatedly not to police the wiki. This means telling other users what to do or how to do it. You simply do not seem to have the knack for when it is appropriate. We've asked you to play fair on the featured article selection page, not to edit others' comments, and not to swear in edit summaries. Yet, things aren't getting better. We don't seem to be getting through to you at all, even after you were blocked for two weeks for disruption. So, I'm going to block you three weeks. Furthermore, I think it would be best if you stayed away from the featured article selection for at least a month. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:48, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Block warning==

RickTommy, if you're warned about being blocked, don't try to fight it by making up a bogus excuse as to why it was necessary to do what you did. Just say sorry and don't do it again. We all know you did it so there is no point fighting it. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:I wasn't denying anything. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::Loafing told you that he might block you, but then you got defensive and said that the edit doesn't matter. Well it does matter. Look, if you ever get a block warning, don't try to fight it, just take the advice you're given. Thanks, {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::You know, Wasd, your behaviour isn't exactly that great either. For one thing, you posted that comment in the first place, despite the fact that it '''''does not''''' belong on that page. For another, you have posted messages in talk page archives, as you have done with my talk page as well as Heimstern's. For another, you warn users about things that they did months ago. For another, you do that to users who haven't edited for months. For another, you post signature length messages on other users' talk pages, despite the fact that 1) you shouldn't expect a response from those users, since they haven't edited for months, and 2) the signature length may only apply to your computer. And for another, you're enforcing policy by doing some of those things. I have been blocked before for trying to enforce policy, so don't be surprised if you end up being blocked as well if you continue doing that sort of stuff. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Please, people, let's break this up. And I'm mainly speaking to Wasd here. Whatever disputes RickTommy has with the sysops and whatever warnings we give him are none of your business. Please attend only to your own behaviour. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

==Support==

RickTommy, you're a cool guy. Keep it real bro. High fives, — [[Strong Bad]]
:Thanks, man. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== French subs ==

Hey, RickTommy. Please don't forget about adding <nowiki>{{fixtranslation}}</nowiki> when you do subs so Meuhcoin or someone knows to look them over. Thanks, and have a good time translating! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
:Pretty please? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:59, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::Seriously, you always need to put the tag on new French subtitles that you create.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Is there a reason for your aversion to <nowiki>{{fixtranslation}}</nowiki>? It's really not a bad thing to have it on your subtitles. It doesn't diminish your work and effort in any way.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== Complaints about the new FAS format ==

RickTommy, has it ever occurred to you that others might genuinely prefer the new format? People aren't praising it to annoy you; they're just expressing their honest opinions, which is entirely within their rights to do. Of course, it's also in your rights to disagree with it, but your constantly complaining about people who like the new system is annoying and is quickly becoming unacceptably hostile, especially with edit summaries like [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ARickTommy&diff=710107&oldid=710101 this one]. Please stop. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:58, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:Please make your complaint in a new section on [http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:Projects this page] or [http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:Featured_articles this page]. (Preferrably the latter) {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 20:17, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

== Previous edit summary ==

What {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Recent changes patrol|offset=20101026050700&limit=2&action=history}} previous edit summary}}? Edit summaries are for the page history first, recent changes a distant second. I realize those HRWiki committee pages are a special case, but in general you need to stop {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=707793}} fixing}} {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=710154}} doctorwho295's}} {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=710763}} name}} on talk pages. If he wants to sign with a lowercase letter, [[HRW:AUTOPIPE|autopipe]] takes care of the link, and there's nothing in our [[HRW:SIG|signature guidelines]] that says he has to sign with a capital letter. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

==Further response==
there are some things on your list that I agree with you on. However, while i'm not saying that anything here specifically annoys me or doesn't, I'm gonna give you a few pointers. I noticed that you added that it annoyed you "When a user creates a new article and links to that article on every page that mentions it" shortly after I linked everything I could find to [[Arby's|a new page that I didn't make]]. I was thinking, "but isn't this good practice?" It's okay; there have been times that good practice has annoyed me too. (See [[Talk:Compé]]) The thing about Strong Mad being older than Strong Bad: yes, that is a known fact. and i have a little brother who is taller and heavier than I am, so i know where you're coming from there. And by the logic displayed on your user page, Strong Sad should be older than both of them. He is known to be the youngest of the three. And the new Featured Article selection format: For example, "People praise it on purpose (much like those guys who said they liked Youtube's Beta Channels to annoy the thousands of users who absolutely disliked them)": in addition to what Heimstern has said two sections up, last i checked, we had more users who have a "Things that annoy me" section on their user page than we did complaining about the new FA selection format. So i'm sorry to say, but i don't think that's a valid comparison. And I've noticed that you've been pointing out that you're suggesting an article for the second time. The way the new format works, they won't ever need to be suggested again (or that's the way i understand it). Honest question: do you like that aspect of the format? In short, I guess I would be more comfortable with that section of your user page if it was less inclusive. but don't let me tell you how to shape your user page; you don't have to change a thing based on what I said if you don't want to. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 08:04, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:Now you're annoyed by the fact that one of the most incredibly useful exclusive features of the wiki exists? I find it very convenient (and evidently, everyone whose edits you linked to probably does too). Are you on Wikia? I've actually tried linking that way there, but it doesn't work, and it doesn't work on Wikipedia. And frankly, i think this logo is awesome. After all, it's still Trogday within six months' precision. I'd like to encourage you to loosen up a bit. Don't let things get to you, and don't take everything so seriously. Have a lighter attitude about the situations. You'll probably enjoy it more here. Just a suggestion. Also, please tell me you saw this edit summary coming. btw, what bothers you about that? it's a very helpful tool that I wish other wikis would use. Incidentally, i often try to make my edit summaries enjoyable, but the one you list as your favorite edit summary wasn't necessarily one of them; i was just citing the second time "oldie" had been said per custom on that page. i'm glad you liked it though {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 04:57, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
:::I also don't know why you call using that feature "abuse". What, in your opinion, is it supposed to be there for if not for exactly that? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

== Reminder about policing ==

RickTommy, given your recent message to that anonny, it seems I need to remind you that you are not allowed to police the wiki. In this case, yet again, it was not an appropriate message: it was vague (it didn't explain clearly what, if anything, was wrong with the anonny's edits) and was not really that accurate a representation of policy (saying "there's probably a reason we don't have those facts" would more or less imply "don't add facts to articles", which is not proper representation of policy at all). So I'm reminding you to not do this again. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 12:45, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== Block explanation ==

You have been blocked for one month for threatening to have another user blocked (specifically {{p|l={{FULLURL:User talk:Shadowtoast102|diff=prev&oldid=716222}} this edit}}) when we have told you over and over [[#Wits' end|not to police]] [[#Reminder about policing|other users]]. (The block time is so lengthy because it's your third block.) Furthermore, the things you were saying to this ''kid'' were not just rude but overtly hostile. This is why we have told you not to tell other users what to do, because when you do you are especially mean in the way you go about it. Effective once your block is up, you are restricted from editing any user's talk page other than your own. (If you try to get around this restriction, you may be blocked again.) 
By the way, as annoying and frustrating as it may be for a new user to flood the recent changes, ''there is no rule against it''. It is out ''custom'' to discourage it, but that's not the same thing as a rule. Since floods bother you so much, I have enabled enhanced recent changes in your preferences, which consolidates all changes to one page into a collapsible (and ignorable) section. Obviously if it's not to your liking you can turn it back off, but I encourage you to give it a try. In your preferences you can also increase the default number of changes you see. When viewing the recent changes page, you can hide all changes in a specific namespace (like the {{p|l={{FULLURL:SP:RC|namespace=2&invert=1}} user namespace}}). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Userpage content ==

Hi, RickTommy. It's not appropriate to use your userpage to disparage other users, here or at the forum. So you're going to need to remove the content about the forum users "TwiceStyle" and "HSR3Ever85" from your list of HRWiki-related things that annoy you. While I'm here: Is there a reason you need to have such a long list of things that annoy you on your page? It seems really unnecessarily negative, in fact, people might wonder why you even edit here if you have around a third of your userpage devoted to things that annoy you. Maybe you might think about trimming it down a bit or removing it? Just a thought (though the removal of the content disparaging other users is required). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:47, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

== C Major ==

Sorry, but your page didn't qualify. I did check and, indeed, [[In Search of the Yello Dello Old Version]] had a C-Major scale. However, [[Marzipan's Character Video]] had an ''E''-Major scale, and [[New Hands]] didn't have a major scale at all (among other things, major scales have ''eight'' notes; Strong Bad only sang five each direction). What's more, the song from [[mascot]], in addition to not being a scale, was in F Major, not A Minor - and even if it was A Minor (which, admittedly, ''is'' the minor key most similar to C Major), I don't see the merit in listing the key every song is in. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:36, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

== Talk pages and consensus ==

Typically, discussions are where we '''discuss''' articles, not just [[yes, wrestling|throwing <s>maps to the restroom</s> single-phrase declarations into the crowd]]. Your recent "flood" of opinions are all just opinions on WHAT you think should be done with the article, but give no hint as to WHY, which doesn't really help anyone. To gain '''consensus''', it's important for people to give [[english paper|a well thought-out]] opinion about an article's merits. You'll notice, for example, on [[Talk:Balloons]], that [[Intro|everybody everybody]], (beginning with myself,) made compelling arguments why the article should not stay. Coming along and simply saying "keep" without giving a reason opposite to what the rest of us have been saying is quite unlikely to do anything but be ignored. '''Consensus''' is not a vote. It's a general understanding among those involved about what the opinions are and what makes the most sense. Hope that helps! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

== {{[[User:RickTommy/sig]]}} ==

Due to how you made the html on it, it was linking all over the place. If you use a span tag inside a link, '''''please close it with <code><nowiki></nowiki></code>'''''. I have fixed it for you. Thanks. {{User:LikeLakers2/sig}} 05:44, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
:According to [[HRWiki:Signature|signature policy]], your signature must fit into this box: {{sigbox raw|1=[[Image:update-hr.png|16px]]'''[[User:That'sBupkis|That's]][[User:RickTommy|Rick]][[User talk:RickTommy|Tommy!]][[Special:Contributions/RickTommy|(contribs)]]'''}} As you can see, it does not. I'm also not quite sure why it is that you're imitating that's bupkis's sig, (even going as far as linking to HIS userpage from YOUR sig) but hey, whatever floats your boat. Please just make sure it fits properly. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:26, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
::Just for reference, here's the box with your sig un-substed (meaning, this will display whatever your signature is currently, instead of the one above which will forever display the one as was at the time of this writing.): {{sigbox|User:RickTommy/sig}} Hope that helps! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:29, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

==Week 48 Dailies==

Sorry for hastily reverting your delete tags a few minutes ago; I didn't realize until i was halfway through with the last one that you were half-right to put them there. But like I said in the last edit summary, the delete tag was displayed on the main page because it checks for a daily before checking for a weekly. There are practical reasons for this. And having the delete tag on the main page looks really tacky. I think you're right that we don't need the daily redirects, but if they are in use even as redirects, it's counter-productive to change them to the deletion template. [[:File:bad fa.PNG|This]] is what it looks like on the main page. Ironically, the linked picture is what FA's dying would look like. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 07:01, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

== My Userspace Ban ==

Okay, it's been more than a year, and I haven't complained about it nor have I tried to get around it. So can my userspace ban please be lifted? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 22:37, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
:I appreciate your not trying to get around it, but your block is for [[#Block explanation|specific reasons]]. How have you shown that you have addressed those concerns? The people over at FAS seem just as frustrated at you as ever, and you keep reporting forum posts for inappropriate reasons (which suggests to me that you still haven't learned why your behavior is unacceptable). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:16, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

== Proper place for discussions ==

''The following was originally in the deletion discussion on [[Talk:Special Text in Strong Bad Emails]]:''
<blockquote>NB: Can my userspace ban please be lifted? 
NNBB: Since we're in a hiatus, can we please lighten up on the special logos? I know I'm not the only one who has found them a bit bothersome ([[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 36#Can we *not* become Google?]]).</blockquote>

It is inappropriate to put irrelevant discussion in random threads across the wiki. Please confine discussion on various topics to the appropriate talk pages.

I addressed your ban above. As for the logo, the thread you linked to had ''one'' voice of opposition, and he was quickly outvoted. You mention the hiatus. If anything, that's a reason to do ''more'' logo changes, to keep ourselves entertained. You may just have to come to grips with the fact that the logo is going to change, probably often. If you would like to discuss it further, at least do so in the right place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:27, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
:About your dislike of the logos, you can put this in [[User:RickTommy/monobook.css|your personal Monobook stylesheet]]: <code>#p-logo a { background: url(<nowiki>http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/e/ed/Wiki-kb-c.gif</nowiki>) 35% 50% no-repeat !important; }</code>

This will keep your logo the same as it was before the swf logos were introduced. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 00:36, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== Things you hate ==

[http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Sbemailiarized%21&diff=729636&oldid=729630 Who are you even talking to here?] The redundant piping you object to so much was [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Sbemailiarized%21&diff=639378&oldid=639363 added] nearly three years ago by a user whose most recent edit was in August. So it's pretty pointless for you to vent your frustration to those of us who have to read your negative edit summary and who didn't have anything to do with it. More importantly, why did it need to be vented in the first place? Redundant piping is not a big deal. The person who added it may ''not'' have been aware it was redundant. And regardless, it took all of what, less than a minute to fix? And this is not exactly an isolated incident. You're constantly being negative at FAS, mainly concerning redirects, with no reason other than "I don't like it." Your not liking something is not a good reason why we should have to put up with your constant negativity. Seriously, stop being so negative. It's just a wiki about dumb animal characters, and if it frustrates you this much, going outside or reading a book would most certainly be a better use of your time. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:51, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

== Concerning French subs ==

Hi, RickTommy. I'm sure you're doing the best you can on the French subtitles, but you may have noticed that Meuhcoin isn't really actively checking them anymore, nor has any other native French speaker shown up to take his place. This means that the subtitles are sitting around unchecked, and we really need to offer only high-quality subtitles to our viewers. For this reason, I need to ask you to please not make any more for the time being. If all the ones you've made to this point are later checked by a native French speaker, maybe things will be different. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
:It seems you need to be reminded of this. You were asked not to create any more, so please respect that request. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:59, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
::I want to add that working on incomplete subs presents the same problem. I understand that it's slightly different, but if you're going to do so, please at least make sure to include the {{t|fixtranslation}} template. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:50, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

== Featured Articles ==
Once again, we need to discuss your actions in terms of the FA project. If another user reverts an FA you try to push through for lack of consensus, it is ''not'' appropriate to unrevert and claim that there is consensus. The very action of someone is reverting you in a situation where only two people are in favor of something indicates a lack of consensus [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/consensus?r=75 by definition]. Further, you only just suggested [[video games]] last week. Give it some time for people to support it before just jumping in. I would support it. We've also discussed before how it's best not to slate a FA for less than one week away, and that's what you did. I'm gonna head over to the FA page and support it, but please don't go trying to switch it back at the last second for this week. We'll put it in the queue for NEXT week. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

== Sandbox, nonsense, and inappropriate behavior ==
Hey there, RickTommy. In case you haven't noticed the note in the edit box of the sandbox, it's for '''test edits''', not games and nonsense. Further, your obsession with a particular user has become inappropriate. A user whom, I might add, has not edited the wiki in over a year, and about whom I can find nowhere where the user themselves provides certain of the facts you're claiming to be true about them. I'd like to point out that this is not [[User talk:RickTommy/Archive#I've removed several things|the first time you have exhibited this kind of obsessive behavior toward another user]]. Please stop. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

== More again further about policing ==

RickTommy, since you haven't had a warning or block about this in a while, I'm going to nicely assume that you forgot about not policing. And you should be glad I'm doing so, because otherwise I would be blocking you for your rude behaviour in trying to enforce the deletion of that redirect. That you were right that it should be deleted is not the point; as I have said before more than once, '''you''' are not the one to be making enforcement decisions. A sysop would have found the redirect, regardless of your attempts or lack thereof. To sum up: do not police again or you will be facing a block, and not a short one. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:19, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

== Behavior toward other users ==

Recently you have once again shown a particular interest in another user. The specificity and persistence of your questions have begun to cross a certain line. It's not appropriate to pester another user to be more active or to "keep in touch", so please do not do this in the future. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:16, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
:Um, yeah. Your recent edit to your page crossed the line from a little obsessed to just plain creepy. I removed the entry from your page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:39, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

== Block explanation again ==

RickTommy, you have once again been policing the wiki by enforcing your preferences at FAS. You've been told many times that you are not under any circumstances allowed to police the wiki. Furthermore, your behaviour in this episode illustrates once again why you are not permitted to do so: once again, you have done so in an overtly hostile manner. As just one example, you told DeFender "*don't" call me RT" when you have never told him (or anyone else, as far as I'm aware) that you dislike being called that. In such a case, the proper thing to do is to nicely say "DeFender, I'd prefer you didn't call me that, please," not to snap at someone. And while one snap like that could be brushed off as a bad day, you've been consistently snappy with him and Ngamer because they've tried to stop you getting your way. And that brings me to my last point. Edit warring to get your way is unacceptable, and you've been doing this practically since day one of the new format. As warnings don't seem to be getting you to stop your unacceptable behaviour, you are now blocked for two weeks. When you return, please stop trying to constantly get your way at FAS and start working cooperatively with others. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:38, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

== Replacing dashes ==

Hey they RickTommy, I'm not quite sure why you've recently taken to replacing <nowiki>—</nowiki> entities with actual dashes, but I'd like to point you to [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Raw characters vs HTML entities|this discussion]]. It seems there's a preference for continuing to use entities for non-alphanumeric characters in general, and for dashes specifically. I just wanted to point that out to you before you begin spending a lot of time to fix a bunch of stuff that isn't broken, and is in fact better the other way. Hope that helps. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:53, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

== Hand ==

Since you are the author and only contributor of the [[Julie Hand]] article, would you mind answering my question on [[Talk:Julie Hand|its talk page]]? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:33, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

== Block explanation yet again ==

RickTommy, you have once again been [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:In_Search_of_the_Yello_Dello&curid=885&diff=736803&oldid=736802&rcid=699361 policing]. "I was right" is no excuse; you are simply not allowed to police, no matter what. As we have apparently not been able to get through to you with warnings or short blocks, seeing that [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk:Old_Characters_Page.png&diff=prev&oldid=734834 the] [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:H*R.com_updates_2012&diff=prev&oldid=734448 pattern] [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Twitter&diff=prev&oldid=734449 continues], I've blocked you for six months. If you continue this behaviour, you can expect to be blocked indefinitely. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:36, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

User talk:RickTommy

Heimstern Läufer — Wed, 22 May 2013 13:36:02 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /**/Block explanation yet again

[[User talk:RickTommy/Archive|Archive]]

== Wits' end ==

We have asked you repeatedly not to police the wiki. This means telling other users what to do or how to do it. You simply do not seem to have the knack for when it is appropriate. We've asked you to play fair on the featured article selection page, not to edit others' comments, and not to swear in edit summaries. Yet, things aren't getting better. We don't seem to be getting through to you at all, even after you were blocked for two weeks for disruption. So, I'm going to block you three weeks. Furthermore, I think it would be best if you stayed away from the featured article selection for at least a month. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:48, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Block warning==

RickTommy, if you're warned about being blocked, don't try to fight it by making up a bogus excuse as to why it was necessary to do what you did. Just say sorry and don't do it again. We all know you did it so there is no point fighting it. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:I wasn't denying anything. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::Loafing told you that he might block you, but then you got defensive and said that the edit doesn't matter. Well it does matter. Look, if you ever get a block warning, don't try to fight it, just take the advice you're given. Thanks, {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::You know, Wasd, your behaviour isn't exactly that great either. For one thing, you posted that comment in the first place, despite the fact that it '''''does not''''' belong on that page. For another, you have posted messages in talk page archives, as you have done with my talk page as well as Heimstern's. For another, you warn users about things that they did months ago. For another, you do that to users who haven't edited for months. For another, you post signature length messages on other users' talk pages, despite the fact that 1) you shouldn't expect a response from those users, since they haven't edited for months, and 2) the signature length may only apply to your computer. And for another, you're enforcing policy by doing some of those things. I have been blocked before for trying to enforce policy, so don't be surprised if you end up being blocked as well if you continue doing that sort of stuff. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Please, people, let's break this up. And I'm mainly speaking to Wasd here. Whatever disputes RickTommy has with the sysops and whatever warnings we give him are none of your business. Please attend only to your own behaviour. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

==Support==

RickTommy, you're a cool guy. Keep it real bro. High fives, — [[Strong Bad]]
:Thanks, man. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== French subs ==

Hey, RickTommy. Please don't forget about adding <nowiki>{{fixtranslation}}</nowiki> when you do subs so Meuhcoin or someone knows to look them over. Thanks, and have a good time translating! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
:Pretty please? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:59, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::Seriously, you always need to put the tag on new French subtitles that you create.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Is there a reason for your aversion to <nowiki>{{fixtranslation}}</nowiki>? It's really not a bad thing to have it on your subtitles. It doesn't diminish your work and effort in any way.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== Complaints about the new FAS format ==

RickTommy, has it ever occurred to you that others might genuinely prefer the new format? People aren't praising it to annoy you; they're just expressing their honest opinions, which is entirely within their rights to do. Of course, it's also in your rights to disagree with it, but your constantly complaining about people who like the new system is annoying and is quickly becoming unacceptably hostile, especially with edit summaries like [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ARickTommy&diff=710107&oldid=710101 this one]. Please stop. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:58, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:Please make your complaint in a new section on [http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:Projects this page] or [http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:Featured_articles this page]. (Preferrably the latter) {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 20:17, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

== Previous edit summary ==

What {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Recent changes patrol|offset=20101026050700&limit=2&action=history}} previous edit summary}}? Edit summaries are for the page history first, recent changes a distant second. I realize those HRWiki committee pages are a special case, but in general you need to stop {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=707793}} fixing}} {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=710154}} doctorwho295's}} {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=710763}} name}} on talk pages. If he wants to sign with a lowercase letter, [[HRW:AUTOPIPE|autopipe]] takes care of the link, and there's nothing in our [[HRW:SIG|signature guidelines]] that says he has to sign with a capital letter. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

==Further response==
there are some things on your list that I agree with you on. However, while i'm not saying that anything here specifically annoys me or doesn't, I'm gonna give you a few pointers. I noticed that you added that it annoyed you "When a user creates a new article and links to that article on every page that mentions it" shortly after I linked everything I could find to [[Arby's|a new page that I didn't make]]. I was thinking, "but isn't this good practice?" It's okay; there have been times that good practice has annoyed me too. (See [[Talk:Compé]]) The thing about Strong Mad being older than Strong Bad: yes, that is a known fact. and i have a little brother who is taller and heavier than I am, so i know where you're coming from there. And by the logic displayed on your user page, Strong Sad should be older than both of them. He is known to be the youngest of the three. And the new Featured Article selection format: For example, "People praise it on purpose (much like those guys who said they liked Youtube's Beta Channels to annoy the thousands of users who absolutely disliked them)": in addition to what Heimstern has said two sections up, last i checked, we had more users who have a "Things that annoy me" section on their user page than we did complaining about the new FA selection format. So i'm sorry to say, but i don't think that's a valid comparison. And I've noticed that you've been pointing out that you're suggesting an article for the second time. The way the new format works, they won't ever need to be suggested again (or that's the way i understand it). Honest question: do you like that aspect of the format? In short, I guess I would be more comfortable with that section of your user page if it was less inclusive. but don't let me tell you how to shape your user page; you don't have to change a thing based on what I said if you don't want to. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 08:04, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:Now you're annoyed by the fact that one of the most incredibly useful exclusive features of the wiki exists? I find it very convenient (and evidently, everyone whose edits you linked to probably does too). Are you on Wikia? I've actually tried linking that way there, but it doesn't work, and it doesn't work on Wikipedia. And frankly, i think this logo is awesome. After all, it's still Trogday within six months' precision. I'd like to encourage you to loosen up a bit. Don't let things get to you, and don't take everything so seriously. Have a lighter attitude about the situations. You'll probably enjoy it more here. Just a suggestion. Also, please tell me you saw this edit summary coming. btw, what bothers you about that? it's a very helpful tool that I wish other wikis would use. Incidentally, i often try to make my edit summaries enjoyable, but the one you list as your favorite edit summary wasn't necessarily one of them; i was just citing the second time "oldie" had been said per custom on that page. i'm glad you liked it though {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 04:57, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
:::I also don't know why you call using that feature "abuse". What, in your opinion, is it supposed to be there for if not for exactly that? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

== Reminder about policing ==

RickTommy, given your recent message to that anonny, it seems I need to remind you that you are not allowed to police the wiki. In this case, yet again, it was not an appropriate message: it was vague (it didn't explain clearly what, if anything, was wrong with the anonny's edits) and was not really that accurate a representation of policy (saying "there's probably a reason we don't have those facts" would more or less imply "don't add facts to articles", which is not proper representation of policy at all). So I'm reminding you to not do this again. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 12:45, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== Block explanation ==

You have been blocked for one month for threatening to have another user blocked (specifically {{p|l={{FULLURL:User talk:Shadowtoast102|diff=prev&oldid=716222}} this edit}}) when we have told you over and over [[#Wits' end|not to police]] [[#Reminder about policing|other users]]. (The block time is so lengthy because it's your third block.) Furthermore, the things you were saying to this ''kid'' were not just rude but overtly hostile. This is why we have told you not to tell other users what to do, because when you do you are especially mean in the way you go about it. Effective once your block is up, you are restricted from editing any user's talk page other than your own. (If you try to get around this restriction, you may be blocked again.) 
By the way, as annoying and frustrating as it may be for a new user to flood the recent changes, ''there is no rule against it''. It is out ''custom'' to discourage it, but that's not the same thing as a rule. Since floods bother you so much, I have enabled enhanced recent changes in your preferences, which consolidates all changes to one page into a collapsible (and ignorable) section. Obviously if it's not to your liking you can turn it back off, but I encourage you to give it a try. In your preferences you can also increase the default number of changes you see. When viewing the recent changes page, you can hide all changes in a specific namespace (like the {{p|l={{FULLURL:SP:RC|namespace=2&invert=1}} user namespace}}). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Userpage content ==

Hi, RickTommy. It's not appropriate to use your userpage to disparage other users, here or at the forum. So you're going to need to remove the content about the forum users "TwiceStyle" and "HSR3Ever85" from your list of HRWiki-related things that annoy you. While I'm here: Is there a reason you need to have such a long list of things that annoy you on your page? It seems really unnecessarily negative, in fact, people might wonder why you even edit here if you have around a third of your userpage devoted to things that annoy you. Maybe you might think about trimming it down a bit or removing it? Just a thought (though the removal of the content disparaging other users is required). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:47, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

== C Major ==

Sorry, but your page didn't qualify. I did check and, indeed, [[In Search of the Yello Dello Old Version]] had a C-Major scale. However, [[Marzipan's Character Video]] had an ''E''-Major scale, and [[New Hands]] didn't have a major scale at all (among other things, major scales have ''eight'' notes; Strong Bad only sang five each direction). What's more, the song from [[mascot]], in addition to not being a scale, was in F Major, not A Minor - and even if it was A Minor (which, admittedly, ''is'' the minor key most similar to C Major), I don't see the merit in listing the key every song is in. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:36, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

== Talk pages and consensus ==

Typically, discussions are where we '''discuss''' articles, not just [[yes, wrestling|throwing <s>maps to the restroom</s> single-phrase declarations into the crowd]]. Your recent "flood" of opinions are all just opinions on WHAT you think should be done with the article, but give no hint as to WHY, which doesn't really help anyone. To gain '''consensus''', it's important for people to give [[english paper|a well thought-out]] opinion about an article's merits. You'll notice, for example, on [[Talk:Balloons]], that [[Intro|everybody everybody]], (beginning with myself,) made compelling arguments why the article should not stay. Coming along and simply saying "keep" without giving a reason opposite to what the rest of us have been saying is quite unlikely to do anything but be ignored. '''Consensus''' is not a vote. It's a general understanding among those involved about what the opinions are and what makes the most sense. Hope that helps! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

== {{[[User:RickTommy/sig]]}} ==

Due to how you made the html on it, it was linking all over the place. If you use a span tag inside a link, '''''please close it with <code><nowiki></nowiki></code>'''''. I have fixed it for you. Thanks. {{User:LikeLakers2/sig}} 05:44, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
:According to [[HRWiki:Signature|signature policy]], your signature must fit into this box: {{sigbox raw|1=[[Image:update-hr.png|16px]]'''[[User:That'sBupkis|That's]][[User:RickTommy|Rick]][[User talk:RickTommy|Tommy!]][[Special:Contributions/RickTommy|(contribs)]]'''}} As you can see, it does not. I'm also not quite sure why it is that you're imitating that's bupkis's sig, (even going as far as linking to HIS userpage from YOUR sig) but hey, whatever floats your boat. Please just make sure it fits properly. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:26, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
::Just for reference, here's the box with your sig un-substed (meaning, this will display whatever your signature is currently, instead of the one above which will forever display the one as was at the time of this writing.): {{sigbox|User:RickTommy/sig}} Hope that helps! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:29, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

==Week 48 Dailies==

Sorry for hastily reverting your delete tags a few minutes ago; I didn't realize until i was halfway through with the last one that you were half-right to put them there. But like I said in the last edit summary, the delete tag was displayed on the main page because it checks for a daily before checking for a weekly. There are practical reasons for this. And having the delete tag on the main page looks really tacky. I think you're right that we don't need the daily redirects, but if they are in use even as redirects, it's counter-productive to change them to the deletion template. [[:File:bad fa.PNG|This]] is what it looks like on the main page. Ironically, the linked picture is what FA's dying would look like. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 07:01, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

== My Userspace Ban ==

Okay, it's been more than a year, and I haven't complained about it nor have I tried to get around it. So can my userspace ban please be lifted? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 22:37, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
:I appreciate your not trying to get around it, but your block is for [[#Block explanation|specific reasons]]. How have you shown that you have addressed those concerns? The people over at FAS seem just as frustrated at you as ever, and you keep reporting forum posts for inappropriate reasons (which suggests to me that you still haven't learned why your behavior is unacceptable). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:16, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

== Proper place for discussions ==

''The following was originally in the deletion discussion on [[Talk:Special Text in Strong Bad Emails]]:''
<blockquote>NB: Can my userspace ban please be lifted? 
NNBB: Since we're in a hiatus, can we please lighten up on the special logos? I know I'm not the only one who has found them a bit bothersome ([[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 36#Can we *not* become Google?]]).</blockquote>

It is inappropriate to put irrelevant discussion in random threads across the wiki. Please confine discussion on various topics to the appropriate talk pages.

I addressed your ban above. As for the logo, the thread you linked to had ''one'' voice of opposition, and he was quickly outvoted. You mention the hiatus. If anything, that's a reason to do ''more'' logo changes, to keep ourselves entertained. You may just have to come to grips with the fact that the logo is going to change, probably often. If you would like to discuss it further, at least do so in the right place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:27, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
:About your dislike of the logos, you can put this in [[User:RickTommy/monobook.css|your personal Monobook stylesheet]]: <code>#p-logo a { background: url(<nowiki>http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/e/ed/Wiki-kb-c.gif</nowiki>) 35% 50% no-repeat !important; }</code>

This will keep your logo the same as it was before the swf logos were introduced. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 00:36, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== Things you hate ==

[http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Sbemailiarized%21&diff=729636&oldid=729630 Who are you even talking to here?] The redundant piping you object to so much was [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Sbemailiarized%21&diff=639378&oldid=639363 added] nearly three years ago by a user whose most recent edit was in August. So it's pretty pointless for you to vent your frustration to those of us who have to read your negative edit summary and who didn't have anything to do with it. More importantly, why did it need to be vented in the first place? Redundant piping is not a big deal. The person who added it may ''not'' have been aware it was redundant. And regardless, it took all of what, less than a minute to fix? And this is not exactly an isolated incident. You're constantly being negative at FAS, mainly concerning redirects, with no reason other than "I don't like it." Your not liking something is not a good reason why we should have to put up with your constant negativity. Seriously, stop being so negative. It's just a wiki about dumb animal characters, and if it frustrates you this much, going outside or reading a book would most certainly be a better use of your time. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:51, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

== Concerning French subs ==

Hi, RickTommy. I'm sure you're doing the best you can on the French subtitles, but you may have noticed that Meuhcoin isn't really actively checking them anymore, nor has any other native French speaker shown up to take his place. This means that the subtitles are sitting around unchecked, and we really need to offer only high-quality subtitles to our viewers. For this reason, I need to ask you to please not make any more for the time being. If all the ones you've made to this point are later checked by a native French speaker, maybe things will be different. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
:It seems you need to be reminded of this. You were asked not to create any more, so please respect that request. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:59, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
::I want to add that working on incomplete subs presents the same problem. I understand that it's slightly different, but if you're going to do so, please at least make sure to include the {{t|fixtranslation}} template. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:50, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

== Featured Articles ==
Once again, we need to discuss your actions in terms of the FA project. If another user reverts an FA you try to push through for lack of consensus, it is ''not'' appropriate to unrevert and claim that there is consensus. The very action of someone is reverting you in a situation where only two people are in favor of something indicates a lack of consensus [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/consensus?r=75 by definition]. Further, you only just suggested [[video games]] last week. Give it some time for people to support it before just jumping in. I would support it. We've also discussed before how it's best not to slate a FA for less than one week away, and that's what you did. I'm gonna head over to the FA page and support it, but please don't go trying to switch it back at the last second for this week. We'll put it in the queue for NEXT week. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

== Sandbox, nonsense, and inappropriate behavior ==
Hey there, RickTommy. In case you haven't noticed the note in the edit box of the sandbox, it's for '''test edits''', not games and nonsense. Further, your obsession with a particular user has become inappropriate. A user whom, I might add, has not edited the wiki in over a year, and about whom I can find nowhere where the user themselves provides certain of the facts you're claiming to be true about them. I'd like to point out that this is not [[User talk:RickTommy/Archive#I've removed several things|the first time you have exhibited this kind of obsessive behavior toward another user]]. Please stop. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

== More again further about policing ==

RickTommy, since you haven't had a warning or block about this in a while, I'm going to nicely assume that you forgot about not policing. And you should be glad I'm doing so, because otherwise I would be blocking you for your rude behaviour in trying to enforce the deletion of that redirect. That you were right that it should be deleted is not the point; as I have said before more than once, '''you''' are not the one to be making enforcement decisions. A sysop would have found the redirect, regardless of your attempts or lack thereof. To sum up: do not police again or you will be facing a block, and not a short one. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:19, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

== Behavior toward other users ==

Recently you have once again shown a particular interest in another user. The specificity and persistence of your questions have begun to cross a certain line. It's not appropriate to pester another user to be more active or to "keep in touch", so please do not do this in the future. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:16, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
:Um, yeah. Your recent edit to your page crossed the line from a little obsessed to just plain creepy. I removed the entry from your page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:39, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

== Block explanation again ==

RickTommy, you have once again been policing the wiki by enforcing your preferences at FAS. You've been told many times that you are not under any circumstances allowed to police the wiki. Furthermore, your behaviour in this episode illustrates once again why you are not permitted to do so: once again, you have done so in an overtly hostile manner. As just one example, you told DeFender "*don't" call me RT" when you have never told him (or anyone else, as far as I'm aware) that you dislike being called that. In such a case, the proper thing to do is to nicely say "DeFender, I'd prefer you didn't call me that, please," not to snap at someone. And while one snap like that could be brushed off as a bad day, you've been consistently snappy with him and Ngamer because they've tried to stop you getting your way. And that brings me to my last point. Edit warring to get your way is unacceptable, and you've been doing this practically since day one of the new format. As warnings don't seem to be getting you to stop your unacceptable behaviour, you are now blocked for two weeks. When you return, please stop trying to constantly get your way at FAS and start working cooperatively with others. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:38, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

== Replacing dashes ==

Hey they RickTommy, I'm not quite sure why you've recently taken to replacing <nowiki>—</nowiki> entities with actual dashes, but I'd like to point you to [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Raw characters vs HTML entities|this discussion]]. It seems there's a preference for continuing to use entities for non-alphanumeric characters in general, and for dashes specifically. I just wanted to point that out to you before you begin spending a lot of time to fix a bunch of stuff that isn't broken, and is in fact better the other way. Hope that helps. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:53, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

== Hand ==

Since you are the author and only contributor of the [[Julie Hand]] article, would you mind answering my question on [[Talk:Julie Hand|its talk page]]? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:33, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

== Block explanation yet again ==

RickTommy, you have once again been [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:In_Search_of_the_Yello_Dello&curid=885&diff=736803&oldid=736802&rcid=699361 policing]. "I was right" is no excuse; you are simply not allowed to police, no matter what. As we have apparently not been able to get through to you with warnings or short blocks, I've blocked you for six months. If you continue this behaviour, you can expect to be blocked indefinitely. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:36, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Blubb-O's Commercial

Heimstern Läufer — Sun, 19 May 2013 23:54:42 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: similar sounding name is coincidental? No, I don't think so. Familiarity doesn't establish a reference, only allows for its possibility. Actual resemblence is what shows the reference.

{{toonnav|Shorts|blubbos|Limozeen vs. Sloshy|Limozeen Live! (practice)}}
[[Image:Blubb-OsCommercial.png|thumb|"Blubb-O's. You guessed it, we're called Blubb-O's."]]
Come the heck down to Blubb-O's!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Drive-Thru Whale}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Peacey P}}, {{film|Bubs}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Strong Badia]] ([[Behind the Fence]]), [[Blubb-O's]], [[The Field]]

'''Date:''' Monday, March 10, 2008

'''Running time:''' 1:53

'''Page title:''' See Participating Stores for Details!
==Transcript==

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are walking along behind the fence in Strong Badia. Corny advertisement music plays quietly under them.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{haltingly, as a bad actor}'' Man, you guys! All this walking around behind the fence being a young person sure has gotten my hunger all up in a dander!

''{Suddenly, the Drive-Thru Whale shoots up from the ground in front of them}''

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Relinquish your pipes please, fellas!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{exaggeratedly}'' Relinquish our pipes? We'd love to!

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat all start laughing. The scene fades slightly as a huge Blubb-O's logo comes on screen, with the words "Come The Heck Down" written underneath.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Come the heck down to Blubb-O's and try your dang self the Blubb-O's Classic.

''{The scene changes to a red background and a burger appears, with a label below saying "Classic" when the announcer names it.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' The Original. The Regular. The New Original. The Old Classic.

''{Each time the announcer mentions another burger, the burger's image [[Flipped_Images|flips horizontally]] and a label with the new burger's name stacks on top of the previous ones. Then, a huge deep-fried triangle of fish appears between a burger bun, and another label appears over the others saying "Isosceles Fish Sandwich??"}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' And the Isosceles Fish Sandwich. Wait, fish sandwich? ''{A record scratch and the music stops.}'' We have a fish sandwich? Has anybody ever ordered that thing?

''{A beep is heard as the scene cuts abruptly to a kitchen with a lettuce, two onions, and two tomatoes lying on a counter top.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' At Blubb-O's, all our vegetables are hand tossed through a refreshing cascade of water, and chopped in mid air.

''{As the announcer mentions this, the vegetables are thrown through a waterfall and chopped in half with a knife. The scene then changes to a Blubb-O's restaurant counter, with Homestar behind it, looking exhausted, wearing a yellow deli-style hat with the Drive-Thru Whale on it and a yellow apron.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Welcome the crap to Blubb-O's. Would you like to try a combo meal ''{holds up a Blubb-O's meal bag}'', some Chipotle Potato Nudules ''{holds up a small paper dish with some [[French Fries|fries]]}'', or our Attempt-At-Competing-With-National-Coffee-Chains Premium Mocha-Chip Meltshake? ''{holds up a cup with some cocoa beans and the word "PREMIUM" printed on it}''

''{The camera cuts to Marzipan on the other side of the counter.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' I just have a question: Do you actually use whale meat, or just regular fast food meat? I just need to know how hard I should protest you.

''{Marzipan holds up two signs, one with the Drive-Thru Whale with the text "SAVE THE BLUBB-O WHALE", and the other with a caricature of the Drive-Thru Whale looking worried, with the text "really SAVE THE BLUBB-O WHALE". Cut to the field. Coach Z is in a large Drive-Thru Whale costume with some balloons next to him.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{laughs}'' Family fun, and I'm talkin' about men in costumes, is what Blubb-O's is all about.

'''COACH Z:''' Hey there kids! I'm the Drive-Thru Whale! ''{Jumps up and down and shouts.}'' I'll chop off your legs!

''{The view changes and Strong Sad is standing beside him.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Sometimes it seems like you're ''trying'' to go to prison, Coach Z.

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, three square meals a day!

''{The camera pans to the left where Strong Bad and The Cheat sit in a cardboard box with "HMS Locash" written on the side. Strong Bad is wearing his Archibald outfit from [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and holding a harpoon, and The Cheat has a harpoon gun.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thar she blows, The Cheat! Aim for the blowhole!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{looks at Strong Bad and makes The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? Whoa, I didn't even see Coach Z standing in a whale costume. Yeah, shoot him too!

''{As the sound of The Cheat firing the harpoon gun is heard, the scene cuts to a red background with a pale Blubb-O's watermark.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' And now for a limited time, introducing the Blubb-O's Thick 'n Nasty.

''{A burger with an extremely thick patty falls into frame, and a gold plate with "THICK 'n NASTY" on it appears on top. A drawing of Peacey P then pops up with a speech bubble saying "that's right. ya'll blubb-o heads. the thick 'n nasty!"}''

'''PEACEY P:''' That's right, ya'll Blubb-O heads. The Thick 'n Naaaaaaasty. ''{grunts}''

''{The camera pans right until a picture of Peacey P's mouth, with gold teeth with "THICK 'N NASTY" engraved on them, fills the screen with another speech bubble saying "eeungh!" The camera then cuts to the image of the Blubb-O's logo with "YOU GUESSED IT...WE'RE CALLED BLUBB-O'S" written below it.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Blubb-O's. You guessed it, we're called Blubb-O's.

''{A speech bubble appears briefly saying "REGISTER DOES NOT CONTAIN MORE THAN FIFTY DOCTORS." The logo shifts slightly off-center, and rubbery sounds are heard, as if the logo were on a balloon.}''

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Register does not contain more than fifty doctors.

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the whale's spout to see Bubs ordering a burger.
:''{An angry Bubs is seen through the grill of the Drive-Thru Whale.}''
:'''BUBS:''' No, I will not slice my fingers thin! I just wanna dang hambloiger!
:''{Cut to see Bubs in the [[Gremlin]], without wheels and on cinder blocks, pulled up next to the Drive-Thru Whale.}''
:'''BUBS:''' I got places to be, man!
:'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' You're living a lie. Would you like cash back?

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The name "Isosceles Fish Sandwich" is a play on an [[Wikipedia:Triangle#Types of triangles|isosceles triangle]], a triangle with at least two of its three sides identical in length.
*"HMS" is a British Naval designation used on ships, standing for [[Wikipedia:Her Majesty's Ship|Her Majesty's Ship]] or [[Wikipedia:His Majesty's Ship|His Majesty's Ship]] depending on the gender of the monarch.
*Drive-Thru Whale's line "register does not contain more than fifty doctors," is a corruption of "register does not contain more than fifty dollars", a notice similar to one that businesses or restaurants might display to deter robbery.

===Trivia===
*The Blubb-O's menu behind Homestar reads:
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|BLUBBO CLASSIC || 1.99 || NUDULES || 5.99
|-
|THE ORIGINAL || 2.99 || KETCHUP PACKET || 6.99
|-
|THE REGULAR || 3.99 || COFFEE STIRRER || 7.99
|-
|THE NEW ORIGINAL || 4.99 || GRAIN OF SALT || 8.99
|}
*Originally, each vegetable was cut as soon as it went through the waterfall, but this was changed soon after the toon was uploaded, so that they all get washed and then chopped separately.
*The background shown on the loading screen and during the scenes that show the burgers and the vegetables is the same [[HR:puppet_background.swf|background]] used for [[Puppet Stuff]], with red instead of blue.

===Remarks===
*According to [[road trip]], Bubs should not have been able to open the Gremlin's windows from the inside, and none of the car's external features suggest they could be opened from outside the vehicle.
*The Gremlin's passenger-side window is completely opaque, and appears to be covered by a sheet of steel or other gray material.

===Goofs===
*When The Cheat turns around to talk to Strong Bad in the HMS Locash, his lower back (or leg) pokes outside the box.

===Inside References===
*"Would you like to try a combo meal...?" was the Drive-Thru Whale's first line in [[Drive-Thru]].
*Strong Mad was shown holding a Blubb-O's bag in [[nightlife]].
*"I'll chop off your legs!" is a variation of "Sever your leg please, sir", and the background music is a variation of the Whale's music from [[Drive-Thru]].
*The term "meltshake" was first used in [[road trip]].
*Strong Bad is wearing his [[Archibald]] costume from [[A Decemberween Pageant]] when attempting to harpoon Strong Sad. 
*Bubs saying he wants "a dang hambloiger" is an instance of [["Er" pronounced as "Oi"]].
*"Nudules" were last mentioned in [[from work]]. There they were also associated with whales.
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]], and so does [[Strong Mad Smiling|Strong Mad]].
*Homestar's greeting is "Welcome the [[crap]] to Blubb-O's."
*The Blubb-O's announcer says to "try [[Own Dang X|your dang self]] the Blubb-O's Classic."
*Strong Sad remarks that it seems like Coach Z is trying to go to [[prison]].

===Real-World References===
*Sandwiches named "The Original", "The Regular" and "The New Original" may be a reference to the pseudo-band [[Spinal Tap]]. Early in their history they changed their name to The New Originals when they discovered that The Originals was already in use. According to the band, The Originals later changed their name to The Regulars.
*The Attempt-At-Competing-With-National-Coffee-Chains Premium Mocha-Chip Meltshake is a reference to how many fast food outlets, like [[McDonald's]], are touting their new "high-quality" coffee drinks as a way of competing with [[Wikipedia:Starbucks|Starbucks]].
*The sign on Strong Bad's cardboard box boat reads "HMS Locash", a reference to Robert LoCash, screenwriter of [[Wikipedia:CB4|CB4]], [[Wikipedia:Naked_Gun_33⅓:_The_Final_Insult|Naked Gun 33⅓]], and [[Wikipedia:BASEketball|BASEketball]].
*The phrase "Save the Blubb-O Whale", which appears on [[Marzipan's protest signs]], is derived from the name of [http://www.savethewhales.org/ Save the Whales], a non-profit organization founded in 1977 which focuses on marine mammal welfare.
*The Thick 'n Nasty is a parody of the [[Wikipedia:Big N' Tasty|Big N' Tasty]], a hamburger from McDonald's that was designed to compete with [[Wikipedia:Burger King|Burger King]]'s Whopper.
*Strong Bad's line, "Thar she blows!" is a famous quote from the [[Wikipedia:Herman Melville|Herman Melville]] novel [[Wikipedia:Moby-Dick|Moby-Dick]].

===Fast Forward===
*Coach Z's whale costume reappears in [[On Break]].

==External Links==
{{extlinks|blubbos|13717|youtube=H5kmOrQa0kA}}

[[Category:Shorts]]

User talk:The Knights Who Say Ni

Heimstern Läufer — Sat, 18 May 2013 04:26:28 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* Re: your edit to HRW:Introduction */ don't think any change is needed

__TOC__
== [[Pants]] ==
First off, I'm a user here, so the addition or deletion of material on mainspace pages is kinda like my job. It's not just Loafing's. Second off, I still need to (and already have) take it to the talk page. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:I lied when I said I didn't want your input. [[User:Kevin G. Dannerson|Kevin G. Dannerson]] 20:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

:Heylo. Please do not add anything about any irony about Homsar mentioning pants to [[DNA Evidence]]. All this is covered in the [[Pants]] article. It's also debatable whether it's ironic or not. For example, I don't think it is at all. Also, that's not somethign between you and me. The wiki is edited by everybody, so Bluebry is more than welcome to edit the article. And lastly, since the contents of this wiki seem to be important to you, you [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|should really create an account]]! It'll make editing much easier for you.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:37, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
::Addition: Actually, there has never been speculation about whether Homsar wears pants or not.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:46, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:::two years later: if i remember correctly, this^ was my whole point about the edit in question. If there is so much speculation about whether or not homestar wears pants, there should be equal speculation about whether or not homsar wears pants. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:09, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::OK I made an account anyway, and yes you're right. I knew from the start that ironic was not the right word and I was hoping that someone would just change it instead of deleting the entire edit.
::<nowiki>*</nowiki>You're right that Bluebry is certainly welcome to edit the page. And I can't figure out how to do a signature. 00:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

:::You sign your talk page posts by with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> (four squiggly bits){{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I can't believe that the whole edit was erased just because one word was wrong! I decided "notable" is a better word than "ironic". would that be okay to put in the page? [[User:Kevin G. Dannerson|Kevin G. Dannerson]] 20:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

:::::Hi there, Kevin G. I looked at {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=DNA_Evidence&diff=prev&oldid=475785 the edit}} you're talking about. In my opinion, it's not notable — Homsar's just saying his usual mostly meaningless things. But you can participate in the discussion at [[Talk:DNA Evidence#Homsar's pants]] if you like, and perhaps others will agree with you. Talk atcha later, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:03, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::Mainly I noticed that Homsar made a somewhat legitimate (sp?) sentence. It's not like he said "you shanked my jengaship" or anything nonsensical like that. [[User:Kevin G. Dannerson|Kevin G. Dannerson]] 21:07, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

:::::::I see your point, but on the other hand, the fact that he's not wearing different pants and that it's not Easter makes it nonsensical. However, it sounds like what you're talking about is information for [[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns]]. That page attempts to attribute ordinary meaning to Homsar's seemingly nonsensical phrases. Hope that helps... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks I didn't know that page existed. It's not the first time that's happened to me. [[User:Kevin G. Dannerson|Kevin G. Dannerson]] 21:12, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::No prob; it's kind of an obscure article anyways :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:16, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::two years later: Still not sure how either of those things make it nonsensical. Homsar could have been wearing a pair of pants (not constantly) since Easter (a grand total of one month) and they are getting tight. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:09, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

==Weclome==
Weclome to the wiki! Doesn't it feel much nicer this way? Has fun editing! :-D{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:I've been trying to decide for several weeks now when to create an account, and it wasn't until after I had already made one that I saw the recommendation to make one. [[User:Kevin G. Dannerson|Kevin G. Dannerson]] 01:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:For whatever reason, I don't feel like I really need to be weclomed. I have been editing pages for several months now and I feel like a veteran. Thanks anyway. [[User:Kevin G. Dannerson|Kevin G. Dannerson]] 20:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

==A question==
How do i make a contents box for the top of my pages? i see them all over the place and i want one for each of my pages so how do i put one there? [[User:Kevin G. Dannerson|Kevin G. Dannerson]] 03:31, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
:Like, a table of contents? <nowiki>Add __TOC__</nowiki> to the top of a page. Forever young, <s>Chester Elegante</s> {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:38, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

==Mersenne Marvels!==
Hey Kevin! I'm sorry for the waaaay late reply (I have a bad habit of doing this, and having to subsequently apologize for it), but I wanted to let you know I responded to your [[User_talk:Stux#Monty_Python_Reference|comment]] regarding my 3rd contest. Hope all is well and I look forward to more math discussions or puzzle solving! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:35, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
:Oh I just realized that I owed you a couple of extra cupcakes from other sections of the puzzle, so here's a fresh batch of 3! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:05, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

==Teixeira==
Even though you prefer college over pro. Hope Teixeira works out for you, though. He's a good one, and will be tough to completely replace. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:43, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

:haha lol idk if you remember in the home run derby a few years ago when teixeira played for texas still and chris berman called him Mark "Yellow Rose of" Teixeira. He has a great name for a texas player and i kind of liked it that the braves had the player with the longest last name in history and the most number of a's in his last name in history... [[User:Kevin G. Dannerson|Kevin G. Dannerson]] 03:56, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
::ps not saying i don't like the results of the trade. Teixeira certainly is a great player and Saltalamacchia is getting more work in Texas than in Atlanta. [[User:Kevin G. Dannerson|Kevin G. Dannerson]] 04:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

== Monty Python ==

We are now the knights that say "Ekki ekki ptang zoo boing ni!" --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 01:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

It's just a flesh wound!
Oh, what are your gonna do, BLEED on me?? --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 11:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

lol... I haven't seen that movie in forever, and that video is hilarious. The coconuts always crack me up... I saw the show on broadway in Chicago and I actually bought coconut halves they had on sale. --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 19:43, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

The evil bunny is classic, as well as the HOLY hand grenade!-[[User:Sovest555|Sovest555]] 06:41, 20 November 2009

== Sig ==

You told me ([http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AOptimisticFool&diff=576264&oldid=576263 here]) that your "signature needs a little bit of color in it" and asked for my help. Sure, I'll help you. What do you want your sig to be like? Keep in mind that you don't have... {{sigbox raw|The Knights Who Say Ni}} ...a lot of space to work with unless we use a narrow font or take out the spaces between the words in your name, or something. That's assuming you wanted an image; is that what you had in mind, or did you literally mean colorful? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Have you changed your mind about this? It's been a month and a half and you still haven't answered my questions.. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 21:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
::I haven't had a whole lot of time to come on here this summer, but you can see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:The_Knights_Who_Say_Ni/sig&oldid=555230 here] that i once tried to put some color in it, but i didn't like the result, so i reverted it inside of an hour. So i'm not sure now if i really need to have a better signature. i mean, i figured something like putting an orange couch next to my orange name, by which i mean [[Image:JustOrangeCouch.png|48px]] [[User:The Knights Who Say Ni|'''The Knight''']][[Special:Contributions/The Knights Who Say Ni|'''s Who ''']][[User_talk:The Knights Who Say Ni|'''Say Ni''']], would just be plagiarism, so i don't want to do that, not to mention the fact that it doesn't fit. do you have any ideas that don't involve plagiarism? in short, i guess i would still like to have a unique signature, and you could maybe still make one since i can never seem to find the time (and you just wrote something on here on my oldth birthday, which i had to mention. i should have said something a few days earlier) {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 05:07, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Can you give me something to go on? Have a favorite color? Do you want an image of some kind (and if so, what kind)? Here's a quick one I came up with using a crop from [[:Image:20060216 sketchbook none shall pass eww.PNG|this image]]:
::::http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7406/noneshallpassdb9.pngTheKnightsWhoSayNi
:::Or there's this, using [[Wikipedia:Image:Knightni.jpg|this image]]:
::::http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8809/nihb4.pngTheKnightsWhoSayNi
:::I just went with grey for now, since it goes well with those images. So, what do you think? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::::That second picture is actually my desktop background right now. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 01:35, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Okay, and what do you think of the sigs? Have any suggestions for things you'd like to see? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::honestly, i would prefer a more h*r-themed picture, so if you could maybe find a picture with The Cheat, since i have sometimes associated "Ni!" and "Meh!" in the same idea. is there anything with The Cheat wearing sunglasses? that would be awesome. or if there isn't one, you could just find a cool font and/or color, that would be okay too. i have an idea: how about The Cheat wearing sunglasses on the left and Strong Bad's eyes on the right? i've got the sb eyes picture {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:30, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Okay, found [http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/9499/cheatshadesoh6.png this Cheat] wearing [[cool shades]] in [[theme song]]..
::::::::http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5413/cheatshades20pxdd0.png TheKnightsWhoSayNi
:::::::That about takes care of all the room you've got for a sig, unless you use a narrow font, maybe like this:
::::::::http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5413/cheatshades20pxdd0.png The Knights Who Say Ni
:::::::But Arial Narrow may not be a universally-had font. Anyway, I don't find this "sb eyes picture" that you say you have. Where is it? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:04, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::one time i cut Strong Bad's eyes out of a picture of Strong Bad. i haven't uploaded it. what i meant earlier was "i've got the sb eyes picture so you don't have to worry about that side." and i can see the arial narrow. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 03:09, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Okay, so what now? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

== Pythons ==

Hello The Knights Who Say Ni. I just wanna say that you have one of the best User names I've ever heard!! Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail is easily the best movie ever made in the year 932 A.D. -[[User:Sonicfirestorm44|Sonicfirestorm44]] 18:06, 20, July 08 (UTC)

== Username ==

Nice username! {{User:The thing/sig}} 19:50, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not sure if i ever responded to this. sorry about that, and thanks {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:09, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

== "Too Much Homestar Runner"? ==

"Too Much Homestar Runner"?
-No such thing Stu, no such thing.

--[[Special:Contributions/68.39.79.161|68.39.79.161]] 01:48, 18 October 2009 (UTC)C-Son-L Sweaters

P.S.-I'm spending my month of October
NOT working on my user page. b/c I
forgort my password. So here's my
"What If" for October 2009-"What if the
Homestar Runner Universe and the
''real'' universe collided?"
Answer: Everything in the Collided World.
Other Answer: Tell me what ''you''
think the answer could be.

== Bah-loh-Neh! ==

I'm TryingtoSellaBaloneySammich!

--[[Special:Contributions/68.39.79.161|68.39.79.161]] 01:53, 18 October 2009 (UTC)C-Son-L Sweaters and the Get Bored Crew

== Potion-Ma-Jig ==

Probably was a multitude of things. I was also running two messengers at the time and maybe I had a poor internet connection for a split second. (Though if it needs a perfect storm to work, that's DEFINITELY not notable.) And as I said, my laptops have done crazy things. (The one before this one, once shut off Internet because it actually '''hated''' a friend's photo I saved on it. No, there was nothing wrong with it. My laptop just hated it.) Anyways, cheers. :D -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 06:53, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== Was ''TH''is what you were looking for? ==

[[File:Thnikkaman logo.png|center]]
--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:38, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:just about. but thanks for that. in a perfect wiki, i would have preferred no orange around the sign, but don't worry about it. this will be just fine. and at this point, it would actually be a bit more work on my part if the background did disappear. in unrelated news, when i first put the second "eat a pony" user box, crack stuntman had a pink background that i didn't like. i said nothing. before too long, the pink background went away anyway. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 05:59, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::and i had a question: i went in and found out what color that background was so i could match it for the userbox background. when i hit show preview, the userbox had converted it to a websafe color, which resulted in a slight clash. why did that happen? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 06:07, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Edit summaries out of context ==

{{p|l={{FULLURL:videography|diff=705814&oldid=705804}} And again what?}} — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:the same edit i made to {{p|l={{FULLURL:hremail3184|diff=705813&oldid=705800}} hremail3184}} one minute earlier. <s>actually when i saw the section title, i thought you would be asking about the "today is wednesday" edit summary one minute before that. that was talking about 280 being divisible by 7, meaning 280 days later would also be monday, so 281 days would be tuesday. and i only realized that when the dayssince template said 282.</s> {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:31, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
::Let me put it a different way: {{p|l={{FULLURL:videography|action=history}} And again what?}} Remember that the recent changes disappear after a while, but the page history is forever. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:::wait a minute, did you know from the start what i meant by it, just because of the proximity of the time? if you could please change it to say ''281 days was actually yesterday''. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:53, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, I knew from the start. I was using the page history to illustrate my point rather than just coming right out and saying it. I changed your edit summary to the above as you requested. (For those following along, the original summary was "and again".) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:24, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
{{p|l={{FULLURL:A Decemberween Mackerel|diff=prev&oldid=713328}} Yes what?}} — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:11, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:this time it was on the same page. Jay: "if there's no has there, there's no has here. do you get what i has said?" referring to when i got rid of "has" in the subtitle transcript, and to his corresponding removal of "has" in the article. This time i changed "literately" to "literally" in both places. so, "''Jay - yes, i get what you has said.''" if the italics would make more sense in the edit summary, then please go ahead and change it to that. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 20:21, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::What would make sense is something like "fixed spelling", because that's what the edit actually was. Edit summaries are for explaining ''what'' you did, or even for arguing ''why'' you think what you did is right. What they're not for is conversation, particularly not when there are edits in between yours and the one you're replying to, especially particularly not when you're making an unrelated edit solely for the purpose of having the conversation, and really especially particularly not when you're answering a rhetorical question. Don't get me wrong; I think you're doing a great job with the actual editing—I just think conversations belong on talk pages and edit summaries should be able to stand alone. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::ok i get it now. it wasn't until i posted the last reply until i realized that Jay wasn't necessarily talking to me. where i come from, "you" is almost always singular, so i didn't even think about the fact that Jay most likely didn't come from the same place. there was a time when i always tried to cram everything into an edit summary instead of taking it to a talk page. then when i realized how much easier talk pages are to deal with than i thought at first, i made an account. anyway, how about if you changed it to "''literally''" like in the subtitles edit? at what point am i abusing your power to ask you to change my edit summaries? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:14, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::come to think of it, sometimes i will still make a slight edit to a page just to say something extra in an edit summary {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 00:10, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== Your User Name ==

Sorry about misspelling your name, good sir knight. T'was an oversight on my part. {{User:DENNIS/sig}} 19:53, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

== Things that annoy me ==

And just why, exactly, are you annoyed by the "Things that annoy me" section on my user page? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:You're not the only user on this wiki who has such a section on their user page, hence the reason you asked this question. notice that doesn't say "other people". What makes you think that part is pointed at you? all right, it sort of was, but it's meant to look like i'm making fun of myself, b/c i am, and i don't want to make personal attacks. all the others on my list either had happened multiple times, and were sometimes caught months after the fact, or were just being annoyed with myself.
:to answer your question though, (*sigh* did you ''have'' to ask?) it was mainly the fact that something new was always popping up, and that it looked like you were devoting your wiki presence to that section of your user page. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 07:36, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

== these peoples try to fade my edits ==

What was wrong with {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=ghosts&curid=973&diff=716658&oldid=716652&rcid=677978 this}}, apart from the left out "you"? (It was meant to say "At the end, if you roll the mouse over the Bad Graphics Ghost...") The main issues I was trying to correct were a) it shouldn't refer to the email as "this one", b) it shouldn't mention the ''appearance'' of the bad graphics ghost as if it's an Easter egg, since it happens at the end of the toon and it's already mentioned in the transcript, and c) there's no real reason to put quotes around [[Bad Graphics Ghost]]. All of these things still need fixed. Is there a better way to do it?--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 04:26, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
:Mainly the issue was we try to avoid the use of "you" in the directions about Easter Eggs and in the Fun Facts. a) yeah i meant to leave that out, sorry about that. b) [[The Interview|yeah, you're probably right]] c) i just liked how it looked better w/quotes, but i'm not opposed to leaving them out. That's all; if you want to put it back in w/o the "you" wording, feel free. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 05:20, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::Hmm... You know, I never did really like the "you" wording in articles, but there's a lot of it across the wiki. I assumed it was just standard practice. I'll start correcting it when I see it.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 06:18, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

== April Fools' is over, btw ==

Hey there. Please fix your sig back. Thanks one million! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:14, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
:Never mind. I took care of it for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:08, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
::Yes sir. I don't want it changed back to normal yet; i'll just move on to the next holiday instead. hope this one works for you. the plan was that if i hadn't reverted it by Thursday, i would go ahead to the Earth Day/Good Friday combination sig so that there wouldn't be two changes of sig right close to each other. hope there were no hard feelings regarding the reason behind my signature prank; i decided to not get offended last year, and turn it into a joke for this year instead. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 04:45, 21 April 2011 (UTC) (edited 18:21, 21 April 2011 (UTC))
:::Um... ... ... 'kay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:51, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
::::btw, were there any hard feelings regarding the reason? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 18:21, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

== Umlat over naive ==

Absolutely not - the meaning of the umlat is "this vowel is a separate syllable than the previous vowel". That's how naïve is pronounced, but it's not how Strong Bad pronounces "naive" in lackey. In fact, it might not have been a bad idea to leave it as "knave", much as that obscures the joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:46, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
:Understood. Incidentally, i didn't see your edit summary on {{p|l={{FULLURL:lackey|diff=693061&oldid=693054}} lackey}} until earlier tonight. I asked pretty much the same question almost exactly a year after that {{p|l={{FULLURL:lackey|diff=717591&oldid=717571}} right here}} having not seen where you wrote that. Another thing is, knave is a noun and naïve is an adjective, so i thought it made more sense to change it for the parallel structure, despite the meaning of the word "knave". {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:32, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

== Awesome ==

Now that I gave other people permission to edit the subpage, could you please let me know if you have any other suggestions on how to make it seem like a good article? I'd especially like your opinion on whether or not the times SB said "awesomer" or "awesomosity" sound notable. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 16:19, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
:given that they are grammatically incorrect, i would have said yes, but then I looked them up, and he has said "awesomer" twice - once in a cartoon and once on a little picture, and he has said "awesomosity" once: in SBCG4AP when he is taking over Pompomerania. You could try making a blanket section to cover both of them. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 16:22, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
::It turns out that another word i was going to suggest adding to the blanket section, "awesomeness", is an actual word. I thought it would have to be awe to be grammatically correct, but apparently not. So, i guess that word wouldn't fit in the blanket section suggested above. Unless you could find unusual uses of "awesomeness", that is {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 18:29, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

== April Fools ==

Hey The Knights Who Say Ni, 'Sup, man? So I was just wonderin', how come your user page is still a bunch of numbers? I'm just wondering, because April Fools is over. Your whatever, {{User:Tenerence Love/sig}} 05:06, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
:See two or so conversation topics above this one. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:39, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
::ColdReactive - were you talking to me or to Tenerence Love? I realize my recent April Fools attitude hasn't exactly been normal, so it looks like your comment was more directed at me. Tenerence - Watch where you're flinging those apostrophes! The reason was: that took me a really long time to put together, so there was no way I was going to revert it right away. Also, don't look at it as a bunch of numbers; everything on my user page translates to a language you can read. (You already knew that, right?) I decided to translate my user page entirely, yet still leave it fully functional as a user page. I was really hoping someone would guess what the gimmick was rather than me having to tell people what it was (which i did after about a week). {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 18:59, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

== Heya. ==

Heya, I just saw that this wiki is pretty much dead due to the long hiatus. The brothers Chaps are probably never going to go back to making Homestar cartoons, and even if they did, they've already lost their audience.

I'm posting this here because I just came back to this wiki after years of not even thinking about Homestar, and I see that you're one of the few people still editing the wiki. I don't know. This makes me sad and I don't really have anyone else to tell this to. --[[Special:Contributions/99.46.236.115|99.46.236.115]] 06:40, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
:Well, my talk page certainly wasn't the right place for it. I don't like when people randomly share their sadness with me. I've got enough of my own to deal with. (Did you have an account? Your user page would be a better place for it.) However, while I admit the wiki is less active than it has been in times past, it certainly isn't dead. It is still well-maintained, and it's substantially inclusive, and that's considerably more than a lot of wikis out there can say. I'm doing my part to keep it that way. As for when the Chaps will return, they have already promised a 206th sbemail, and based on previous brief returns from the hiatus, wiki activity will spike whenever The Brothers Chaps come out with anything else. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:07, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

== About HRWiki:Featured article for 2012, week 37 ==

Sorry, I didn't catch your edit when I was editing the page. I thought Stux had put in a wrong year when he rv'd Rick, so I thought I should fix it not realizing you edited in for Coach Z to be re-ran. Sorry for stepping on your toes when I should have checked more thoroughly first. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 17:52, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:It's all good. I hope you didn't think i was mad at you. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 18:13, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

== Edit Summaries ==

Hey there. I've noticed on a couple of occasions ([http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=coloring&diff=prev&oldid=734475 this] recent one comes to mind most clearly) that you've used the edit summary field to make comments on something about the page which is totally unrelated to the edits you've actually made. It becomes rather confusing to those who A: don't readily know what section of the page it is that you ''are'' actually referring to and B: are expecting the edit summary to reflect something they see in the changes. If the summary isn't about the changes, then a better place for it might be the talk page. You've been around for a long time, and I know it's a little weird to for an experienced user to receive this kind of message, but it's just something i've noticed and thought i should point out. Hope it helps. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:01, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
:The keytar edit summary was because in the same edit, I very nearly removed the Keytar reference entirely. I decided to leave it in when I finally found why it was on the page. Perhaps I should have removed it, and if it was decided that it belonged there better than either of the other places i mentioned, it could be re-added. I guess I modified the edit summary when I decided to leave it in, and didn't think about the fact that the resulting edit summary would look as irrelevant as I originally thought the fact in question did. And I openly admit that I sometimes use edit summaries in an atypical manner. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 00:32, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

== CRAP! ==

Thanks for fixing my incessant mistakes. Good thing Iv'e only done those on talk pages. As for the black hole one, Defender had posted an edit to the wording of what he wrote and so when I was about to send my comment I got the "this can't be saved cause there's been changes to the page since this copy" message. So I copied what I wrote (accidentally including a line of his comment as the select tool and generally everything on iPads are crappy, but I didn't feel like sitting down and don't have a laptop), refreshed the page, pasted it, noticed I selected too much and deleted the line that was his (obviously making a mistake in the process) before sending it. There's the story. Anyway, thank you for patrolling recent changes. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 13:51, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

== Oops, Sorry For Deleting That ==

See [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:butt_IQ&oldid=736123 this]. It sounds a lot harsher than I meant it to... I was kind of freaking out about all these unknown dates. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 03:21, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
:Regarding your rv/self one edit later: I actually don't know what you meant. Did you figure out where the date came from? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 03:58, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
::Uh, no. If it helps, I'm emailing TBC about these things right... now. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 04:27, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
::: All right, lessee if they respond. I'm kind of terrified. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 04:38, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
::::The date came from [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2011_Calendar&diff=prev&oldid=724953 here]. However, I have no idea if that talk post is accurate. Do you own the calendar? And what did you mean regarding the most recent edit summary that you didn't finish? And don't bother emailing TBC about it. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 04:44, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
::::: There's a calendar?!?! What's its source? I was just using the updates log, and the discrepancy in their dates confused me. In the summary I just thought it wasn't released before Homsar and didn't understand the origin of the date you used. Um... I already emailed them. Not about this in particular though, just about recovering missing info in general. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 04:53, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
::::::[[2011 Calendar]]. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 04:54, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
::::::: I tried looking for the contents of the calendar on the web, but I couldn't find it... {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 05:02, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

== The Template Usage ==

(Per your summary " Broncotroll - is this still how you wanted the template to be used?") 
Yeah, yeah. Totally. Yeah. Anything with no-longer recoverable information, including not-sure information.
The only thing I don't want it to be used for is like <nowiki>{{missinginfo|Strong Bad said pasta salad was his favorite salad when chicken salad is obviously the best. Was this figurative?}}
That and {{missinginfo|if anything changed while we weren't looking!}}. </nowiki>{{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 02:52, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
:Well, I asked b/c someone removed it after adding a vague release date, and I didn't think that was a good enough reason to remove it. Turns out you agree with me. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:36, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

== Re: your edit to HRW:Introduction ==

I think we'll need Dot Com's opinion, since he and Tom are the only ones that can access the DB now Joey is gone. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 11:52, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, I know. His or Tom's. In fact, I came very close to asking Tom last night about a rewrite. I guess I thought that what I had written sounded too forward, or maybe I got busy doing something else, or [[The Thnikkaman|something distracted me]]. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 14:24, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
::If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And I don't see any problem with the way things are now, having two sandbox spaces. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:26, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Talk:the chair

Heimstern Läufer — Thu, 16 May 2013 13:56:10 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* What's going on here? */ still not doing it for me

== Decompiling ==

Can somebody decompile the flash file to see if there is anything actually hidden in the picture or when Strong Bad takes off his mask? It seems like something TBC might put into the flash as a "super secret easter egg". -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 21:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

:Way ahead of ya! [[Image:Dodongo.png|150px|nice try, dodongo!]]--[[User:Echeese|Echeese]] 22:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
::We's already done. The picture is blank, and here's his face without the chair there: [http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/3518/muhfacehe2.png] (courtesy of The Mu). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I'm not as computer-smart as you guys are, so can someone explain how you do that?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::You'd want a program like [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler]. Mind that it isn't free, but there may be free alternatives out there. --[[User:205.251.60.126|205.251.60.126]] 17:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Heck, Eltima's IS a free trial, and that's the one I use. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::See, that's what I get for not reading more closely. Mea culpa. --[[User:205.251.60.126|205.251.60.126]] 19:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that this would be more appropriate under Trivia than as an Easter Egg, since it's not readily viewable--it has to be decompiled to see it. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 22:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I have a question. What does this have to do with SB's parents? [[User:RocketMasterZ|RocketMasterZ]] 12:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

:TBC are lightheartedly teasing those of us who immediately ran to a Flash decompiler as soon as we saw the toon so that we could post a picture of Strong Bad's parents on the internet. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Easter eggs are things you can click on during the email. This isn't one. There's even another decompiler related thing down in trivia, so why isn't this there? [[User:EASports|EASports]] 14:54, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

:From [http://www.dictionary.com dictionary.com]: "Easter Egg: 2. A hidden feature in computer software, a DVD, or a video game." An Easter egg doesn't necessarily involve clicking. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 14:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
::I was referring to the usage of the term here. This is, as far as I know, the only thing listed as an Easter egg on any page of this wiki that requires the use of a separate program to find it. [[User:EASports|EASports]] 14:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
:::I can see EA's point, there are other various instances of similar "hidden information" that we have considered nothing more than "Flash Artifacts." But with that said, this is pretty much the same as [[Senorial Day]] and the 2 Homestars, only difference being that instead of using an external viewer for the flash file, someone is using a decompiler. It's a close call as to how to handle it, but I think by definition, and by precedence, it's an Easter egg. - {{User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C/Sig}} 15:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
::::This is a pretty broad definition, but I think an Easter Egg is anything in the toon that is a least partially obscured (purposefully) by TBC with the intention of someone finding it. This one awas just hidden better. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:46, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::Another one kinda like this one is Marzi's rocker hair in [[different town]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Danube Largo? ==

I was going to say this is a reference to the Danube river, but then I realized it's probably also a parody of a real person's name. So I'm waiting to see if anyone else has dirt on this. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 22:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:Not of any furniture designer that I'm aware of. I don't think it's a reference to the river so much as to the trend towards nature-related names, such as River, Skye, or Willow.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 01:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::Wasn't Largo the villain in Thunderbird? (007 movie, for those of you wondering) Could that be a possible reference? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Thunderb''all'' is the Bond flick. Thunderb''ird'' is a car. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 11:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

:::''Largo'' is Italian for "slow". But that has little relevance to its usage here. I think it's likely just something they put together to sound foreign. I don't see a reason to think into it any deeper than that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Actually, [[Wikipedia:Largo|Largo]] is a common word. It STILL may be a reference. Just suggesting it. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
An die Schöne Blaue Donau is a world-famous waltz, known in English as "The Blue Danube Waltz," or "The Blue Danube," or "The Danube Waltz." Waltz can be a musical designation, as can Largo. So, "Danube Largo" is a riff on "Danube Waltz," although I doubt that TBC put as much thought into it as I just did. Did either of the Chap brothers study music at some point? -- Unregistered User, M Valdemar.
:::::Actually, there are a few waltzes with "Danube" in the name. And "Largo" is pretty generic. I don't think this needs to necessarily refer to music in any way. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Still seems more like TTATOT than references to me, though.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 22:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

would the name have anything to do with it being daNOOB largo?

:This was STUFFed and voted on: [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/the chair#Teh n00b Largo?]] {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

== Leather ==

I'm thinking that the leather is not "Chairybdian" but is in fact "Corinthian" parodying Ricardo Montalbon and his rather (unintentionally) silly ads for Chrysler in the 80's. But maybe I'm just hearing things.
: I hear Corinthian.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 01:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== 3 years pre-owned ==

This could just be me and my tendency to mishear things, but does it sound to anyone else like Bubs is saying it's a PRE-OWNED box of chicken beaks, rather than a 3-year-old box of chicken beaks? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:I hear it as 'pre-owned'. [[User:Cara Carabowditbowdit|Cara Carabowditbowdit]] 23:11, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
::I also hear pre-owned. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::I hear pre-owned, too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 01:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::::I put this bit on my user page before it was transcribed, and "pre-owned" is what I heard. Still do. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::I wrote the transcript here and heard "3 year old" the first time, but after listening a few more times I realized Bubs did in fact say "pre-owned". I kept trying to change the transcript to match but I kept getting Edit Conflict! ARGH!! Anyways, yes; he does indeed say pre-owned. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:33, 5 December 2006

== Buzzer sound ==

It's the same buzzer sound as the old "deleted" buzzer. "Remarks"? "Inside references"? Is it even wiki-worthy? [[User:Tbone762|Tbone762]] 23:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:Nope. It's just a [[Sound Effects|sound effect]]. You should list it there, though, if it's not already. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:06, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::I compared the two, and from what I can tell, it's definitely the DELETED buzzer. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 03:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, it's unlikely that TBC would have two sound effects for one purpose. If this gets listed, so should [[retirement]], [[mascot]], and [[Homestarrunner.com Pay Plus]]. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

== melon-chair ==

Is the stool supposed to be the same face as the cantelope he stole from Marzipan?
:You mean [[Doreauxgard]]? I don't really think so. The chair doesn't bear much of a resmblance to him. {{User:Spyrox6/sig}}
:i thought the same thing. it's VERY similar...if not almost exactly the same
::I compared the picture in the article to the face on the chair, and they're almost identical, except for the forehead wrinkles.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 22:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::There's some resemblance to the [[Sticky Notes|sticky note]] Strong Bad stuck up on his monitor in [[vacation]] - the one that calls you a dork. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Perchance this is because of how SB draws faces on inanimate talking objects? Sheesh. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
:::::Except that SB didn't draw the face on the chair.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 04:50, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

== This is the one where Scratchy finally gets Itchy! ==

The way Strong Bad says he will never take off his mask again reminds me of a [http://www.snpp.com/episodes/1F02.html Simpsons episode] where Scratchy ''finally'' gets the better of Itchy instead of vice versa in one of their episodes. The TV gets unplugged as Bart and Lisa are watching, and they end up missing it. When the TV gets plugged back in, Krusty says, "Wow! They'll never let us show that again, not in a million years!" — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
: It does seem similar in a kinda this-is-not-a-referencey sort of way. :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::I saw that one as well, and I don't think there's a notable similarity at all. The "now that you can't see it, I'll finally reveal all the secrets" gag is an old one.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Quite. Which is why I posted it here and not in the fun facts. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::::The first thing that came to my mind in this was Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget - part of the gag with him is that all you ever see is his big metal hand, but never any other part of him. (Though this is refuted somewhat by the fact that the official Gadget intro shows Gadget flipping the chair around, and it's just a spring-loaded hand and a bomb on the chair.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::That's not a refutation, it was just an episode where Gadget thought he had finally caught Dr. Claw, but alas, he wasn't there. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::In the Fat Albert movie, the one who wears the hat over his face first takes it off revealing nothing but his eyes and mouth. Similar. {{User:Neox/sig}}
i don't see much of a difference

== Chickenella ==

Just wondering since I suspect it'd be removed or STUFFed: How notable is it that Strong Bad probably meant Salmonella, which is commonly associated with chicken, rather than the mammal-specific Anthrax? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
*meh, i did notice that also, but it is much too much ttatot. also i love the ethical tag. its funny. {{User:Csours/sig}} 01:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
**I think this would be notable if Strong Bad had said something like "I don't wanna get chickenella from that mish-mash" or something like that. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:47, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

== Ecochair != Tempurpedic ==

So someone put up a reference saying the ecochair was a reference to tempurpedic mattresses. I don't get how this could possibly be. That chair is NOTHING like a mattress. I figured it was a fairly vague reference to IKEA furniture, personally.

Yeah, that person's crazy. If my changes weren't universally overridden, I'd change it myself... but i want this to be changed, so i won't change it --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 00:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

:And that would be me! Forgive, for I should've ran this through the discussion thing before I went ahead and made such a bold statement! I figured the Ecochair made a bit of a reference to Tempur-pedic and other such styles of furniture, with their questionable designs made from questionable materials! After re-rewatching the email, it would appear that the ecochair does not, in fact, use crazy memory foam to shape itself to the user! Such a reference is quite a bad decision. --[[User:The only known copy of the failed pilot episode of the Limozeen Saturday morning cartoon show|Crazy Person]]

I'd actually say that chair is more like those crazy chairs designed to fix bad posture. --[[User:Xifihas|Xifihas]]

== Anthraxy ==

Anyone else think that Winger is less anthraxy, not because of the disease anthrax, but because Winger is not like the band Anthrax, thus they are less Anthraxy? --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 01:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, it seemed like a bit of word-play to me.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 01:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::That seems extremely likely to me. Winger and Anthrax both thrived in the late '80s, which is a particularly common era for TBC to reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Incidentally, wasn't Winger referenced in [[death metal]]? -{{User:YK/sig}} 04:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't particularly care whether we list the links to Anthrax (both kinds) and Winger in Explanations or Real-World References, but we ''don't'' need to spell out the above joke. The links are enough. Let the viewer put together the humor. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:Well, at least someone spelled it out here, coz I'd never get it otherwise. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It seems like some kind of reference--spelling it out or not--would be good. I'm not up to date on that kind of music anymore, but it seems likely that there will be a good number of people who won't have heard of Anthrax, 20 years after their heyday (ouch!).--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 22:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::Ok, i be'd bold and put it under explanation. i'm sure someone will pull it by tomorrow anyway, but that may just be my HRCynicism speaking. It seems like the kind of thing that should be mentioned - the specific reference to Anthrax the band, differentiating it from the earlier reference to anthrax, the disease. And two people said here that it should be listed, that and i came up with it originally, so there, its posted and thats why. --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
:::This is one of those jokes that while I don't normally like spelling out, we do need to somewhere (maybe in real world references) help those who may not have been exposed to either band put it together. Which after another rereading I think will work as is . . . - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
::::As I have already said above, there have been and continue to be links to the Wikipedia articles about Anthrax and Winger already listed in the real-world references. They're even listed right next to each other. All someone has to do is click the links. It would be a bad thing, however, to start making a habit of saying "this is the joke and here's why it's funny." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree. Not only would that be unencyclopediac, but we would end up going crazy with ''rules'' to ''govern'' that sort of thing. Which jokes do we list? Which ones are too obvious to do so? Our talk pages would be pages full of forum-style posts. No, our fun facts section is far better off without an "Oh, by the way, this is a joke." section. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 19:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
:Can we atleast agree that the second Anthrax-y should be with a capital A, because he is referring to the band Anthrax, not the disease anthrax? --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 00:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
::Sure, why not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Hurray for compromise! --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 09:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I'd say it is both a reference to the disease Anthrax and the (awexome) thrash band Anthrax (who ar estill aliuve and kicking the Cheats, BTW.) --[[User:74.129.217.164|74.129.217.164]] 13:39, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

==Truely==
Is Strong Bad's pronouciation of of the misspelled truely, a reference to his pronounciation of truuly in [[modeling]]? How similar are the two?[[User:68.239.209.107|68.239.209.107]] 03:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

:I don't think so: Strong Bad's pronunciation of "truuly" put much more emphasis on the extra letter than did his pronunciation of "truely". They're only similar because they're both responses to mispellings of the same word. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

==Hey, it's Tiptup!==
Bubs says both 'Tip' and 'tup', which are parts of the name 'Tiptup', who is a turtle racer in the game Diddy Kong Racing. At least, I think so.--[[User:147.133.207.186|147.133.207.186]] 05:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:"Tip top" is a colloquialism that means "the very top"... and it's a mix-up of "Start at the bottom, and work our way to the top." That "top" is pronounced as "tup" is probably just Bubs being strange. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::Tiptup the Turtle was the first thing I thought of too, but I think it's just Bubs being random. He does seem to be acting kind of strange in this email :) {{User:Saturn/sig}} 07:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::: I tink it might be worth mentioning. Tiptup also appeared in both Banjo-Kazooie games, and the brothers Chaps are Nintendo fans. Tiptup the turtle was what I first thought of, but I have been replaying those games recently though.-anon
I agree it could be Tiptup, because the way Bubs says it. Earlier in the email, there was the 'Duh to the ear' thing. It could be Bubs' strange way of saying 'Tip to the Tup'. Though, personally, the first thing I thought of was "from the tip the ''top'', only Bubs just being weird for saying tup. - Sb100
:Craba''DONK!!1!'' {{User:Neox/sig}}
::I say it is a reference. Yes the original phrase is tip top, which is why i think they modified it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:13, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

==SB's Parents==
Just wanted to say that I sent an email to SB last week asking how his parents looked like, kind of surprised to see at least part of it being used. Guess my pronounciation was too good to become an actual e-mail ;) Eitherway, you can never be sure that it actually originated from my e-mail. I'm pretty sure loads of people have sent in the same question. It's just that I find it kind of funny to actually get some kind of an answer :)

Yeah, I think that question had probably been asked quite a bit. The one time I sent SB an email (which was a couple years ago) part of it inquired about his parents. The rest suggested his he and his brothers might all be adopted, since they bear no resemblance to each other.

:Pronunciation? Was it audio email? Has Strong Bad done audio email before? - anonymous

::Uhhh... yeah... hence the sound every week. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

:::I've never heard audio from people mailing in. Where do you find it? It would seem like making fun of users' pronunciation should be more highly publicized, like in mail sbemail. - anonymous

On another note: the photo of SB's parents is ONLY viewable if you have specialized software. So why in the world are we calling it an Easter egg? In my mind, Easter eggs are user-interactable things which yield special content. While "nice try" is simewhat special, the fact that it is not accessible to the viewer deems it, in my book, not an Easter egg but a Trivia item. As there seems to be some degree of dupport for it being an egg, I won't alter the article without discussion. How can something which can only be seen by using a flash decompiler be set as eqivalent to the Easter eggs we commonly see in the toons? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:Other examples: SB's signature in [[myths & legends]], Marzi's hair in [[different town]]... This is a different definition of Easter egg than the one we normally use, but it still counts. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Well, if it's precedent we should either keep it all or dump it all, but it feels wrong to me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, how do I get the email into Flash Decompiler anyways? -{{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 13:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

== Parts? ==

Does that refer to the same thing that The Ugly One's intro in Issue 2 refers to? EEEEEWWW!! I wouldn't think they'd make deezguzzteeng hints to dat. EEEEWW!! --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:Psoriasis? I see no connection here, unless I'm just rather thick right now. (I ''am'' pulling an all-nighter just so I can't oversleep and miss class and it's 5:30.) {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 11:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::Psoriasis is skin condition. Parts, well let's just say I don't quite think about skin conditions when I hear guys say the words "my parts." :P --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

== Hate? ==

I don't hear "Hate, hate, hate this email", I hear "Hey, hey, hey, it's email." Anyone else agree? -- [[User:4.244.214.55|4.244.214.55]] 12:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:Yes. The Hate vs. Hey is hard to distinguish, but "it's" is a give-away. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 14:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== Treatment of Chickens ==

I noticed [It's dot com] deleted a comment I added to the Fun Facts section of "the chair". Please look [[wikipedia:Chicken|it]] up. This is a direct quote:
"Domestic chickens are typically fed commercially prepared feed that includes a protein source as well as grains. Chickens often scratch at the soil to get at adult insects and larvae or seed. Incidents of cannibalism can occur when a curious bird pecks at a preexisting wound or during fighting (even among female birds). This is exacerbated in close quarters. In commercial egg and meat production this is controlled by trimming the beak (removal of ⅔ of the top half and occasionally ⅓ of the lower half of the beak)."
This most likely explains the "ethical" label on Bubs box of Chick'n beaks
:I think that is a major stretch. If you want, you can create an account and STUFF it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:: For what it's worth, we're talking about cruelty to animals in Ethics class this week, and the chicken beak cutting off is the first thing I thought of when I saw that box. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::I just assumed it was humorous--Bubs selling something "Ethical" brand--him being so ethical and all! --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 22:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
: I see what you're saying, and I'd hate it if i had a point that good and it was disagreed with, but i hafta disagree. Its not strong enough to be listed on the main page. Its a big stretch to call removing most of a chicken's beak for any reason ethical. --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

: I don't mind if people disagree, I just wish there was something to argue about. "Ethical" is an ironic label for a case of chicken beaks, because it seems to me (maybe I'm wrong here) unethical to remove chicken beaks just because you make more money selling them if you raise them packed closely together. The other possibility is that my source is completely off base. Wikipedia is not exactly the best source of information. If so, then it would be a stretch to make a claim here based on a wikipedia article. I suppose it would be better to reference more [[http://www.upc-online.org/merchandise/debeak_factsheet.html]] than [[http://ars.sdstate.edu/animaliss/poultry.html]] one [[http://www.cnr.uidaho.edu/range556/Appl_BEHAVE/projects/Chicken_Cannibalism.html]] source.[[http://www.mullerslanefarm.com/cannibalism.html]]

== Stooley ==

Should Stooley get a character page and a cast nod? He does have a name and lines, which I think warrents him as being up there with Frank Bennedito or any of the other inanimate objects in the Homestar world... [[User:Cyndentia|Cyndentia]]

:If Stooley appears again then it seems likely that he will get a character page. Otherwise, No. [[User:Xifihas|Xifihas]]

::I strong disagree with Xifihas. The stool, or whatever we call it, is a charcter as it has lines. Lesser character have been called characters or at least [[Characters#Pseudocharacters|pseudocharacters]] ([[The Denzel]], [[Doreauxgard]]). {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

:::The only reason I am not adding this right now is that I don't know what to call it. The Stool? Stooley? Chairscoot? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

::::Strong Bad names the chair himself: "Stooly here is a tush-cheek's dream." Then we just decide on the spelling, right? [[User:Cyndentia|Cyndentia]] 13:18, 5 December 2006 (MST)
:::::That could just be a term of affection, and not a definite name. I'd go with "The Stool". - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::The page has actually been created as [[Stooly]], so further discussion should be at [[Talk:Stooly]] from this day henceforth. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's Face ==

Um, did anyone try checking if there's an easter egg in the Flash file itself when Strong Bad takes off his mask/face? You know, like the "Nice Try Dodongo" joke? It probably should be mentoined in the article what exactly is going there, animation-wise.--[[User:68.121.102.254|68.121.102.254]] 19:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:No... There's no Easter eggs... He's not up for it. [http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/3518/muhfacehe2.png See here]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
I just reworded a lengthy item about how the face should be backwards or upside-down or something when Strong Bad pulls it off. I disagree. He could have twisted his hand around, pulled straight up, and then untwisted his hand to hold up the mask for us to see. Furthermore, if TBC had animated it in any other way, it wouldn't have been as effective in showing off the mask. By that I mean that without a decompiler you can barely see the mask, and so they had to include the details exactly as they did in order for it to be recognizable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== What? ==
*In real world references:
<blockquote>This could also possibly be a reference to the character Largo in the Megatokyo webcomic. In this webcomic, Largo "is an impulsive alcoholic who speaks L33t fluently and frequently." Thus, the mention of "Danoob" might be to what is known commonly online as a newbie.</blockquote>
This doesn't make any sense, even if it were a connection to something. It sure needs to be cleaned up if it is something more than a coincidence.

I think it makes enough sense. Largo refers to the character from Megatokyo, and Danoob refers to the expression "the noob" which a l33t speaker would pronounce "da noob"... i dunno, use that if u like. --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

:I dunno. There're two completely different "explanations", and if you ask me, both of them seem like a stretch. A combination of a river and a webcomic character...? Uh... That just doesn't sound right to me. Considering that, it seems like it's a pretty broad "reference", if it even *is* one (yeah, TBC can be weird and random without referencing anything; it was probably meant to sound like a generic Swedish name), to the point of, dare I say it, TTATOT. Maybe a DVD commentary will explain it, but for now, I say we just don't bother trying to attach this to anything in the real world. STUFF one or both, I guess. -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

::Addendum:

* The reference to the "Danoob Largo" chair is '''probably''' a reference to the Danube River, which runs through Europe, where there are many people apt to buy such a manner of furniture. And in this case Danoob Largo would mean something like "Long Danube."
* This could also '''possibly''' be a reference to the character Largo in the Megatokyo webcomic. In this webcomic, Largo "is an impulsive alcoholic who speaks L33t fluently and frequently." Thus, the mention of "Danoob" '''might''' be to what is known commonly online as a newbie.

"Probably", "Possibly", "Might". Aren't these words rather frowned upon in real-world references, especially? -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:41, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::Still sounds TTATOTish to me. I don't think these should be listed as refs, IMHO. Besides, do the Brothers Chaps really even read shoujo manga webcomics?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 21:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

This fact is currently [[STUFF:the_chair#Teh_n00b_Largo.3F|STUFF'd]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

==404'd==
I'm not sure why, but the toon is 404'd. Any reason why?
EDIT: I refreshed it and it appeared? Weird.
--[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 16:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

==Horror movie references?==
Did anyone else think that the living Homestar "chair" was a reference to "House of Wax"?

Also, this may be a stretch, but the "I can't feel my parts" lines seemed awfully close to a line from the 1985 movie "Silver Bullet"--in that movie, a character is watching wrestling. One wrestler hits (or kicks, I can't quite remember) another in the groin, and the guy watching it says, "Ow, that hurt my parts!" It might well be a coincidence, but I thought the lines were awfully similar.

I too saw the "House of Wax" reference. The kid sitting at the piano is what Homestar reminded me of here. I was surprised to see that it wasn't in the references section...how many people see the link?

==It Came From Beneath The Soolnd==

I believe this is the first time that we see the bottom of Gron Sad's "feet". Is this noteworthy? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 06:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
:No, we've seen the bottoms in [[caffeine]] and [[Experimental Film]] too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:What is noteworthy is that they have circles, since the article on soolnds still says that they only have circles when Strong Sad has some sort of control over a cartoon. Or if he's hyperactive. I'd change it now, but I'm too tired. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
::The circular bottoms of the soolnds were also seen in [[highschool]] on "Middle-School Strong Sad". {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

== Projector screen ==

The projector screen that shows Strong Bad's paper route is obviously the same one from Fan Costumes '06. I added this to Inside Referances and it was deleted for no reason. Anybody know why?[[User:Rexisfed|Rexisfed]] 02:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

== Sweat Pants ==

The image of Strong Bad with all the sweat pants sure reminds me of this popular online video [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6tlw-oPDBM 155 T-Shirts]. Probably not worth a reference. Also the "stink stank stonk" seems like another reference to The Grinch (1960's cartoon), along with "slink" from the lappy-napped e-mail. [[User:Cyndentia|Cyndentia]]

== Dodongo ==

I've got this creeping feeling that TBC have used the line "nice try, Dodongo" before. I did a search but nothing came up. Am I just suffering from crazy deja vu, or am I on to something? [[User:72.187.97.84|72.187.97.84]] 23:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think they've used this particular word or phrase before, but they have had similar things in the past. The first one that comes to my mind is "Jhonka", from [[Peasant's Quest]]. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
::Not used before. Here's proof: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=dodongo A wiki main namespace search for "dodongo"]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I really don't feel it's worth opening up to yimmer-yammer, but I wanted just to say that Dodongo has been since I think the late 60's the knickname of Kenny Rogers. It's included in the link that is included in [[the chair]] for dodongo ([[Wikipedia:Enemies in The Legend of Zelda series#Dodongo]]), and I'm sure could be confirmed elsewhere since I remember it well from my childhood, and remember being shocked when I saw the name used in Zelda. But as I said, for all practical purposes I agree with the fact the way it is and don't really want to open up a can of worms too far. Thanks for your time. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 00:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I found it using a Google search, and it made me wonder why it wasn't already on Kenny's Wikipedia page (but not so much that I felt I should add it or anything). Still, knowing TBC's reputation, I'd bet good money it's the video game reference only. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Dodongo is a fictional character in the Legend of Zelda as well. I don't know why they would use that particular reference, though.
-Chris

== Guaranteed to break the ice at parties ==

There's a Monty Python sketch where a man selling "jokes" repeatedly says "...guaranteed to break the ice at parties". This was the first thing that I thought of the moment Bubs said "Always a hit at parties". Possible linkage? [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 15:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

:All reference citations start out as "first thing that I thought of the moment" but it's only after a bit of analysis that you can determine its worth. In this case, it's clearly a coincidence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

==How the Grinch Invaded the Email==

The outtake says "Last time it was stink" and "Stonk can't be far away". This is a reference to the song "You're a Mean One Mr. Grinch", from "How the Grinch Stole Christmas." One of the lyrics goes "The three words that best describe you, goes as follows, and I quote--Stink, Stank, Stunk" (or "Stonk" as Strong Bad pronounced it).
:There's been some discussion of this at [[Talk:Quote of the Week]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
::I love that part of the song. {{User:Neox/sig}}

== Styleron = Aeron ==
Aeron is a brand of super-expensive office chair that all the dot-com companies bought for their employees to prove they were successful. (http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=aeron) Styleron sounds like Aileron, the control surface that banks an airplane. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aileron) ''(Anonymous contributor)''

:I disagree with both. Aeron looks nothing like Le Restige, and is supposedly a reference to a diferent chair (also looks nothing like it.) and Aileron...isn't related to anything except for the fact that it sounds similar to the Styleron. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 05:16, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Ummm...yeah...my ''name'' is Aeron, and its also the name of a town in Ireland, a river running through the town in Ireland, a Celtic war hero, and a chemistry company, does that mean that TBC were referencing any of these? I-a don't-a think so.--[[User:Homsar Lover|Homsar Lover]]

== Parts Comment ==

Is this the first time that characters' genetalia has been mentioned or pointed towards? I don't think I've heard any of the characters mention the subject before...
:Um... Why does "parts" automatically mean "genetalia"? There are other parts to your body. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Red Ripened Banana==

I thought I heard "red ripened banana".
:I kinda disagree. Red White and Blue makes more sense.

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

===The STUFFerön IKEAchair===
{{stufffact|The Styleron Ecochair by Danoob Largo is a parody of furniture made by Swedish-founded [[Wikipedia:IKEA|IKEA]], known for advertising its products as modern and environmental and giving each product line a Scandinavian name.}}
{{stuffverdict|15:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)|22:46, 29 December 2006 (UTC)|accepted as revised|15|11|the chair}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Slow Danube ===
{{stufffact|The reference to the "Danoob Largo" chair is probably a reference to the Danube River, which runs through Europe, where there are many people apt to buy such a manner of furniture. And in this case Danoob Largo would mean something like "Long Danube."}}
{{stuffverdict|10:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)|07:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|12|1. A proposed revision was also declined, 10-1|the chair}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Unethical Chick Beaks ===
{{stufffact|"Ethical Chick'n Beaks" is probably a reference to the questionably unethical practice of [[Wikipedia:Debeaking|cutting off baby chicken beaks]] employed by many chicken mega-farms.}}
{{stuffverdict|05:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)|20:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|11|0|the chair}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Strong Bad Mask Removal ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's taking his mask off where the viewer can't see it is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Halo (video game series)|Halo]] series, where multiple times Master Chief takes his helmet off, and puts it back on, but his face is never seen.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)|21:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|14|1|the chair}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Teh n00b Largo? ===
{{stufffact|This could also possibly be a reference to the character Largo in the Megatokyo webcomic. In this webcomic, Largo "is an impulsive alcoholic who speaks L33t fluently and frequently." Thus, the mention of "Danoob" might be to what is known commonly online as a newbie.}}
{{stuffverdict|09:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)|03:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)|swiftly and unanimously declined|12|0|the chair}}

== SB's Picture ==

If the flash file is decompiled, can you see the picture of Strong BAd's face without his mask on? If so, I wanna see!--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 22:54, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:Nope, sorry. [[:Image:Sb mask.PNG|This]] is as close as you get. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::DOse this mean (Gasp!) that SB's mask is his whole head, and there's no head under the mask!?! [[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]] 00:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:::That actually makes some sense. He did gurgle, like he had disconnected his mouth. The only problem is the episode [[looking old]], where there appears to be something under the mask. [[User:Trlkly|Trlkly]] 04:17, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Before you guys get all, "I think I has the solution", on the talk page, consider that:
::::a)It's a cartoon, you shouldn't really worry about it.
::::b)TBC kinda' did this to give people who actually decompiled the .swf a little "gift" so to speak.
::::b-2)They did the same thing with the whole "And here's a picture of my parents" thing, too.
::::c)It's a cartoon, you shouldn't really worry about it. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 05:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== Transcript ==

Transcribing now, posting soon. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 19:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
:x.x For DVD commentary, that is. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 19:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
::That's great! For future reference, it's not really necessary or effective to mention this on the talk page, but you might consider editing the DVD section and changing <code><nowiki>{{sectionstub}}</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>{{inprogress}}</nowiki></code>, especially if you're concerned about someone else maybe doing it (that would be a somewhat unlikely coincidence, but it doesn't hurt to tag it anyway). Also, do you know about [[HRWiki:DVD_commentary_transcripts|DVD commentary project page]]? I recommend checking it out since you're working on them. Thanks for working on the DVD transcript! {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 19:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== What's going on here? ==

I don't hear this at all. I just hear screaming. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:46, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
:I can hear it. It certainly isn't as articulate as anything else SB says, but it does sound to me like he says, "What's going on here?" near the beginning of the malfunction. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 04:18, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
::I hear it as well. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 23:11, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Really?! It doesn't even sound like the intonation of a question to me. Nor do I hear a single consonant. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:04, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
::::I don't hear it either. Or can some of you who hear it maybe help me know what I'm missing? Like, when does it sound? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:48, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::I think you need a lot of imagination to hear any kind of words or even a sentence in that scream.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:48, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
::::::"Hey" is between frames 2704 and 2709, "What's going on here?" is between 2712 and 2720. It's muffled and hard to hear over the noises the chair makes (especially the consonants), but it's there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 07:59, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, I hear "hey" (or at least phonemes similar, which admittedly wouldn't be hard to achieve at random), but the rest I'm afraid the tutelage of your keen ears is not helping with, Pom Pom. I still just hear a bunch of random vowels. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:56, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Talk:the chair

Heimstern Läufer — Thu, 16 May 2013 02:48:09 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* What's going on here? */ me either

Twitter

Heimstern Läufer — Mon, 06 May 2013 11:28:52 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: reword, we don't link to usernames in the mainspace unless they were featured in actual site content.

[[Matt Chapman]] had a '''[[wikipedia:Twitter|Twitter]]'''  account under the name "ronginald" (a reference to [http://www.ronplanet.com/rp022.html this strip] of [[Ron Planet]]) from 3 September 2011 until 22 January 2013. In his Tweets he insisted that [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] is not over (despite having been on [[hiatus]] since November 2009, with minor comebacks in [[Xeriouxly Forxe|April]] and [[A Decemberween Mackerel|December]] 2010); displayed [[Sketchbook|sketches]] for [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] and rejected [[Halloween costumes]] and a teaser shot of the script for the as-yet-unreleased [[Strong Bad Email]] 206; and mentioned how he currently spends his time (he works for the [[Nickelodeon]] program [[Wikipedia:Yo Gabba Gabba|Yo Gabba Gabba]], for which he and [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] had previously created an animated segment).

The "ronginald" handle was reactivated on 23 April 2013, but it only posted Ron Planet quotes. The creator of the account denied being Matt Chapman, saying "[[ronginald:status/331296978594066433|no, I'm just a lowly fan]]".

{{missinginfo|several twitter posts}}
==TwitPics==
<gallery widths="300px" heights="180px" perrow=3>
Image:SK-09-09-11.png|A storyboard from [[In Search of the Yello Dello]]
File:Twitter Sketch 2.png|Homestar and The Cheat as Finn and Jake, respectively, from [[wikipedia:Adventure Time|Adventure Time]]
File:sbemail206 teaser.jpg|"Someday, when you least expect it..."<blockquote>'''sbemail206''' (lights are off on b[——] in and starts blowing [——] SB: Ah, Compay [——] SM: [——]</blockquote>
File:TwitterCereal.png|[[Cheat Commandos...O's]] prop box
</gallery>

Blubb-O's Commercial

Heimstern Läufer — Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:45:31 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: Adding an invisocomment seems appropriate in this case.

{{toonnav|Shorts|blubbos|Limozeen vs. Sloshy|Limozeen Live! (practice)}}
[[Image:Blubb-OsCommercial.png|thumb|"Blubb-O's. You guessed it, we're called Blubb-O's."]]
Come the heck down to Blubb-O's!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Drive-Thru Whale}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Peacey P}}, {{film|Bubs}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Strong Badia]] ([[Behind the Fence]]), [[Blubb-O's]], [[The Field]]

'''Date:''' Monday, March 10, 2008

'''Running time:''' 1:53

'''Page title:''' See Participating Stores for Details!
==Transcript==

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are walking along behind the fence in Strong Badia. Corny advertisement music plays quietly under them.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{haltingly, as a bad actor}'' Man, you guys! All this walking around behind the fence being a young person sure has gotten my hunger all up in a dander!

''{Suddenly, the Drive-Thru Whale shoots up from the ground in front of them}''

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Relinquish your pipes please, fellas!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{exaggeratedly}'' Relinquish our pipes? We'd love to!

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat all start laughing. The scene fades slightly as a huge Blubb-O's logo comes on screen, with the words "Come The Heck Down" written underneath.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Come the heck down to Blubb-O's and try your dang self the Blubb-O's Classic.

''{The scene changes to a red background and a burger appears, with a label below saying "Classic" when the announcer names it.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' The Original. The Regular. The New Original. The Old Classic.

''{Each time the announcer mentions another burger, the burger's image [[Flipped_Images|flips horizontally]] and a label with the new burger's name stacks on top of the previous ones. Then, a huge deep-fried triangle of fish appears between a burger bun, and another label appears over the others saying "Isosceles Fish Sandwich??"}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' And the Isosceles Fish Sandwich. Wait, fish sandwich? ''{A record scratch and the music stops.}'' We have a fish sandwich? Has anybody ever ordered that thing?

''{A beep is heard as the scene cuts abruptly to a kitchen with a lettuce, two onions, and two tomatoes lying on a counter top.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' At Blubb-O's, all our vegetables are hand tossed through a refreshing cascade of water, and chopped in mid air.

''{As the announcer mentions this, the vegetables are thrown through a waterfall and chopped in half with a knife. The scene then changes to a Blubb-O's restaurant counter, with Homestar behind it, looking exhausted, wearing a yellow deli-style hat with the Drive-Thru Whale on it and a yellow apron.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Welcome the crap to Blubb-O's. Would you like to try a combo meal ''{holds up a Blubb-O's meal bag}'', some Chipotle Potato Nudules ''{holds up a small paper dish with some [[French Fries|fries]]}'', or our Attempt-At-Competing-With-National-Coffee-Chains Premium Mocha-Chip Meltshake? ''{holds up a cup with some cocoa beans and the word "PREMIUM" printed on it}''

''{The camera cuts to Marzipan on the other side of the counter.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' I just have a question: Do you actually use whale meat, or just regular fast food meat? I just need to know how hard I should protest you.

''{Marzipan holds up two signs, one with the Drive-Thru Whale with the text "SAVE THE BLUBB-O WHALE", and the other with a caricature of the Drive-Thru Whale looking worried, with the text "really SAVE THE BLUBB-O WHALE". Cut to the field. Coach Z is in a large Drive-Thru Whale costume with some balloons next to him.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{laughs}'' Family fun, and I'm talkin' about men in costumes, is what Blubb-O's is all about.

'''COACH Z:''' Hey there kids! I'm the Drive-Thru Whale! ''{Jumps up and down and shouts.}'' I'll chop off your legs!

''{The view changes and Strong Sad is standing beside him.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Sometimes it seems like you're ''trying'' to go to prison, Coach Z.

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, three square meals a day!

''{The camera pans to the left where Strong Bad and The Cheat sit in a cardboard box with "HMS Locash" written on the side. Strong Bad is wearing his Archibald outfit from [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and holding a harpoon, and The Cheat has a harpoon gun.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thar she blows, The Cheat! Aim for the blowhole!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{looks at Strong Bad and makes The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? Whoa, I didn't even see Coach Z standing in a whale costume. Yeah, shoot him too!

''{As the sound of The Cheat firing the harpoon gun is heard, the scene cuts to a red background with a pale Blubb-O's watermark.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' And now for a limited time, introducing the Blubb-O's Thick 'n Nasty.

''{A burger with an extremely thick patty falls into frame, and a gold plate with "THICK 'n NASTY" on it appears on top. A drawing of Peacey P then pops up with a speech bubble saying "that's right. ya'll blubb-o heads. the thick 'n nasty!"}''

'''PEACEY P:''' That's right, ya'll Blubb-O heads. The Thick 'n Naaaaaaasty. ''{grunts}''

''{The camera pans right until a picture of Peacey P's mouth, with gold teeth with "THICK 'N NASTY" engraved on them, fills the screen with another speech bubble saying "eeungh!" The camera then cuts to the image of the Blubb-O's logo with "YOU GUESSED IT...WE'RE CALLED BLUBB-O'S" written below it.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Blubb-O's. You guessed it, we're called Blubb-O's.

''{A speech bubble appears briefly saying "REGISTER DOES NOT CONTAIN MORE THAN FIFTY DOCTORS." The logo shifts slightly off-center, and rubbery sounds are heard, as if the logo were on a balloon.}''

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Register does not contain more than fifty doctors.

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the whale's spout to see Bubs ordering a burger.
:''{An angry Bubs is seen through the grill of the Drive-Thru Whale.}''
:'''BUBS:''' No, I will not slice my fingers thin! I just wanna dang hambloiger!
:''{Cut to see Bubs in the [[Gremlin]], without wheels and on cinder blocks, pulled up next to the Drive-Thru Whale.}''
:'''BUBS:''' I got places to be, man!
:'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' You're living a lie. Would you like cash back?

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The name "Isosceles Fish Sandwich" is a play on an [[Wikipedia:Triangle#Types of triangles|isosceles triangle]], a triangle with at least two of its three sides identical in length.
*"HMS" is a British Naval designation used on ships, standing for [[Wikipedia:Her Majesty's Ship|Her Majesty's Ship]] or [[Wikipedia:His Majesty's Ship|His Majesty's Ship]] depending on the gender of the monarch.
*Drive-Thru Whale's line "register does not contain more than fifty doctors," is a corruption of "register does not contain more than fifty dollars", a notice similar to one that businesses or restaurants might display to deter robbery.

===Trivia===
*The Blubb-O's menu behind Homestar reads:
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|BLUBBO CLASSIC || 1.99 || NUDULES || 5.99
|-
|THE ORIGINAL || 2.99 || KETCHUP PACKET || 6.99
|-
|THE REGULAR || 3.99 || COFFEE STIRRER || 7.99
|-
|THE NEW ORIGINAL || 4.99 || GRAIN OF SALT || 8.99
|}
*Originally, each vegetable was cut as soon as it went through the waterfall, but this was changed soon after the toon was uploaded, so that they all get washed and then chopped separately.
*The background shown on the loading screen and during the scenes that show the burgers and the vegetables is the same [[HR:puppet_background.swf|background]] used for [[Puppet Stuff]], with red instead of blue.

===Remarks===
*According to [[road trip]], Bubs should not have been able to open the Gremlin's windows from the inside, and none of the car's external features suggest they could be opened from outside the vehicle.
*The Gremlin's passenger-side window is completely opaque, and appears to be covered by a sheet of steel or other gray material.

===Goofs===
*When The Cheat turns around to talk to Strong Bad in the HMS Locash, his lower back (or leg) pokes outside the box.

===Inside References===
*"Would you like to try a combo meal...?" was the Drive-Thru Whale's first line in [[Drive-Thru]].
*Strong Mad was shown holding a Blubb-O's bag in [[nightlife]].
*"I'll chop off your legs!" is a variation of "Sever your leg please, sir", and the background music is a variation of the Whale's music from [[Drive-Thru]].
*The term "meltshake" was first used in [[road trip]].
*Strong Bad is wearing his [[Archibald]] costume from [[A Decemberween Pageant]] when attempting to harpoon Strong Sad. 
*Bubs saying he wants "a dang hambloiger" is an instance of [["Er" pronounced as "Oi"]].
*"Nudules" were last mentioned in [[from work]]. There they were also associated with whales.
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]], and so does [[Strong Mad Smiling|Strong Mad]].
*Homestar's greeting is "Welcome the [[crap]] to Blubb-O's."
*The Blubb-O's announcer says to "try [[Own Dang X|your dang self]] the Blubb-O's Classic."
*Strong Sad remarks that it seems like Coach Z is trying to go to [[prison]].

===Real-World References===
*Sandwiches named "The Original", "The Regular" and "The New Original" may be a reference to the pseudo-band [[Spinal Tap]]. Early in their history they changed their name to The New Originals when they discovered that The Originals was already in use. According to the band, The Originals later changed their name to The Regulars.
*The Attempt-At-Competing-With-National-Coffee-Chains Premium Mocha-Chip Meltshake is a reference to how many fast food outlets, like [[McDonald's]], are touting their new "high-quality" coffee drinks as a way of competing with [[Wikipedia:Starbucks|Starbucks]].
*The sign on Strong Bad's cardboard box boat reads "HMS Locash", a reference to Robert LoCash, screenwriter of [[Wikipedia:CB4|CB4]], [[Wikipedia:Naked_Gun_33⅓:_The_Final_Insult|Naked Gun 33⅓]], and [[Wikipedia:BASEketball|BASEketball]].
*The phrase "Save the Blubb-O Whale", which appears on [[Marzipan's protest signs]], is derived from the name of [http://www.savethewhales.org/ Save the Whales], a non-profit organization founded in 1977 which focuses on marine mammal welfare.
*The Thick 'n Nasty is a parody of the [[Wikipedia:Big N' Tasty|Big N' Tasty]], a hamburger from McDonald's that was designed to compete with [[Wikipedia:Burger King|Burger King]]'s Whopper.
*Strong Bad's line, "Thar she blows!" is a famous quote from the [[Wikipedia:Herman Melville|Herman Melville]] novel [[Wikipedia:Moby-Dick|Moby-Dick]].

===Fast Forward===
*Coach Z's whale costume reappears in [[On Break]].

==External Links==
{{extlinks|blubbos|13717|youtube=H5kmOrQa0kA}}

[[Category:Shorts]]

User talk:RickTommy/Minor Relationships

Heimstern Läufer — Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:06:17 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* Put back in user space please */ yes

{{tbd}}
== Put back in user space please ==
As an article in userspace which would tell us "this is what we have on these characters, if any more develops, it might be a worthwhile page" is one thing. To have a page documenting all the relationships of characters who hardly interact in the main space is rather pointless. My vote is to move this back to the user space where it came from. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:16, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, for all the same reasons. If a relationship is minor, that doesn't mean it belongs in an omnibus article covering all the minor, non-notable stuff; it means it doesn't merit coverage at all. Keeping it in the userspace to monitor it, however, is entirely reasonable. (Admittedly, it would make more sense if we were actually getting updates, which would allow for the potential of new relationship articles to grow out of this thing.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:06, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

User:RickTommy/sig

Heimstern Läufer — Fri, 05 Apr 2013 04:24:19 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: rv to policy-compliant signature, April 1st is over now.

'''[[User:RickTommy|Rick]][[User talk:RickTommy|Tommy]] [[Special:Contributions/RickTommy|(edits)]]'''

Talk:Gum

Heimstern Läufer — Sun, 24 Feb 2013 00:50:32 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: Singapore it!

{{tbd}}
== Not unique ==
Gum has been mentioned a few times, but not really in a way that's unique or interesting, the notable exception being [[record book]]. Aside from there, this would just be a laundry list of appearances. Really not worth it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:23, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
:Agree, unless someone can add more instances that are notable. Make like Singapore and ban gum (by deleting it)! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:50, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Homestarloween Party Costumes

Heimstern Läufer — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:43:40 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* Kurt Cobain death theories */ I really should just external link these all the time, what with how unintuitive these interwiki ones are.

==The Cheat as Garfield==
I know that The Cheat is supposed to be Garfield. But don't you think that they could have added more to his costume to make him more like that cat? They could've added ears and a tail or even a mouth-like part under the nose. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 00:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

==Carmen Miranda==
Carmen Miranda is NOT Brazilian. I'm brazilian and I know that well. She was born in Portugal.

==Homestar's shirt==
What does it say on Homestar's shirt while dressing up himself as [[Wikipedia:Kurt Cobain|Kurt Cobain]]? I only see it says "RPO ROC STIL SUCK". Could you please help me what the titles say on his shirt?
--[[Special:Contributions/83.188.202.117|83.188.202.117]] 20:09, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
:If you checked the actual article, it says that "The shirt Homestar wears says "Corporate Rock Still Sucks", the motto of SST Records, a favorite label of Cobain's." {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 20:12, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== Kurt Cobain death theories ==

I agree 100% with JohnnyLurg's recent decision to remove alternate theories concerning the death of Kurt Cobain and to revert back to the removed version. We are a wiki about dumb animal characters, not a celebrity gossip column. Furthermore, the removed material suggests wrongdoing by a living person. I find this completely unaccepatable. While [[Wikipedia:WP:BLP|WP:BLP]] is not policy here, it is a good practice for any wiki and more than that, it is just basic human decency. As I'm not a lawyer, I can't be sure if it counts as libel, but I don't think we ought to risk it. This material ought to have no place on our wiki. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:42, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Homestarloween Party Costumes

Heimstern Läufer — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:42:37 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /**/Kurt Cobain death theories

==The Cheat as Garfield==
I know that The Cheat is supposed to be Garfield. But don't you think that they could have added more to his costume to make him more like that cat? They could've added ears and a tail or even a mouth-like part under the nose. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 00:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

==Carmen Miranda==
Carmen Miranda is NOT Brazilian. I'm brazilian and I know that well. She was born in Portugal.

==Homestar's shirt==
What does it say on Homestar's shirt while dressing up himself as [[Wikipedia:Kurt Cobain|Kurt Cobain]]? I only see it says "RPO ROC STIL SUCK". Could you please help me what the titles say on his shirt?
--[[Special:Contributions/83.188.202.117|83.188.202.117]] 20:09, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
:If you checked the actual article, it says that "The shirt Homestar wears says "Corporate Rock Still Sucks", the motto of SST Records, a favorite label of Cobain's." {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 20:12, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== Kurt Cobain death theories ==

I agree 100% with JohnnyLurg's recent decision to remove alternate theories concerning the death of Kurt Cobain and to revert back to the removed version. We are a wiki about dumb animal characters, not a celebrity gossip column. Furthermore, the removed material suggests wrongdoing by a living person. I find this completely unaccepatable. While [[WP:WP:BLP|WP:BLP]] is not policy here, it is a good practice for any wiki and more than that, it is just basic human decency. As I'm not a lawyer, I can't be sure if it counts as libel, but I don't think we ought to risk it. This material ought to have no place on our wiki. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:42, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Bubs

Heimstern Läufer — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:17:50 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: I don't think that's really representative of Bubs's character, and thus not really a good choice for his bio.

{{charnav|Bubs|bubs|Coach Z|The King of Town}}
[[Image:newestbubs.png|thumb|right|220px|"100% All Original Bubs!"]]
[[Image:bubsid.PNG|thumb|He doesn't look half bad!]]
== Biography ==
'''Bubs''' (full name: '''Bubs Concession Stand''', as confirmed in [[Homestar Ruiner]] and [[Senorial Day]]) is the all around fix-it man. He has a round blue head, [[mismatched eyes]] (his right eye is white with a blue iris while his left is simply a black dot), and a permanent toothy smile (consisting of at least four visible teeth) that moves when he talks. His upper body is orange, and according to Strong Bad, Bubs has flipper arms. He has a green stripe around his middle which, according to Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People, is a belt, and his lower half is colored dark gray.

Running [[Bubs' Concession Stand|his own concession stand]], Bubs is a sharp salesman and shady black market operator who will sell [[Bubs' Concession Stand#Known Items Sold|almost anything]], and has developed a habit for selling ridiculous items at a humorously high price. Bubs is also on the run from at least one collection agency, though at the same time he represents at least one collection agency, as seen in [[other days]]. He also has been seen operating the [[Baloney Sammich Truck]], which he drove down to the beach in [[Weclome Back]]. Bubs claimed he only sold "exactly zero baloney sandwiches" and called it his "best year ever". The [[The Baloneyman|next year]], Bubs returned and sold out the truck, including a popsicle-shaped sammich ([[Strong Bad]]), multiple servings "of everything" ([[The King of Town]]), and a napkin [[Coach Z]] bought for $32.

Bubs resells Internet access, although he rips off his sole subscriber, [[Strong Bad]], in 99 different ways (though none of them are "throttling down", as Strong Bad claims). It's likely that not all of his dealings are [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices|exactly legal]], considering his reaction to a practical joke from Strong Bad in [[lackey]], and trying to dispose of items marked EXHIBIT A and EXHIBIT B (presumably a human pancreas which he tried to sell to [[Homestar Runner]]) in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]]. It is also hinted (sometimes subtly and sometimes not,) that Bubs also has a somewhat darker nature to his personality. He resorts to violence rather quickly and sometimes for no apparent reason and it also hinted in [[buried]] that he might have actually killed someone. In his spare time, Bubs reads back issues of Motor Trend magazine, and also hangs out and talks with [[Coach Z]].

His relationship with Coach Z has been sort of a love-hate relationship, as Coach Z has done things to Bubs in the past that have offended him. For example, Coach Z did something to anger Bubs near Thanksgiving in 2005, and to get even, Bubs made a "Coach Z, you jerk!" float for the [[Fall Float Parade]]. To retaliate, Coach Z said it "serves him right" when Strong Mad marched in the parade with the concession stand, having ripped it out of the ground. In [[narrator]] (February 2006), it was shown that they had patched things up and were once again having boring conversations about [[Bubs's napkins]]. Although they still maintain a friendly relationship, Coach Z hasn't fully risen above offending Bubs, as in [[Most in the Graveyard]] (where he wanted to have a relationship with Bubs' sister) and [[Baddest of the Bands]] (where he punched Bubs in the face accidentally while performing as the [[Two-O-Duo]]).

Bubs also apparently has licenses to do a lot of different things, such as being a Bail Bondsman, Paranormal Investigator, Normal Investigator (not at all associated with "Bubs: Paranormal Investigator"), and "Dr." Bubs (TV/VCR repair). As shown in [[licensed]], Bubs apparently has an inverted and twisted understanding of what quality of product to sell where, due to the fact that he sells apparently "consumer-safe" products on the black market, and hazardous products at the concession stand. (The fact that Bubs sells "consumer-safe" products on the black market isn't entirely true, as the Cheat had an allergy to some ferret [[Ointment and Old Person Rub|ointment]] that Bubs was selling, and the piñatas contained broken glass which injured Homestar.)

Bubs [[Dancin' Bubs|dances]] and attends night courses at [[Disco Tech]]. His facial configuration is puzzling; in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], he appears to have a safety pin stuck through his face above an internal ear. In Strong Bad's [[record book]], he was solely declared "Cutest couple."

Bubs's alter-ego is the [[The Thnikkaman|Thnikkaman]]. During Decemberween, he also turns into the Dethemberween Thnikkaman. No one but Homestar seems to suspect any relationship with Bubs and the Thnikkaman.

In [[unnatural]], Bubs was mutated into [[King Bubsgonzola Supreme]] after being flushed down the toilet while shaving. Strong Sad cured this with a bowl of kashi.
[[Image:Bubs 3D variation.PNG|thumb|left|115px|Legitimate 3D business.]]

In [[original]], Strong Bad claimed that there was another Bubs, known as [[Original Bubs]], who had great eyesight and could always see Homestar "from over there". Bubs got angry and claimed that he was the "100% All Original Bubs". He claimed, "If I had thumbs, I'd be sticking 'em up my armpits right now!" Marzipan claims that there was no such character, but Homestar claims to miss him. It is possible that there was another Bubs before Marzipan ever came into town.

According to a discussion by [[The Deleteheads]] in [[fan club]], Bubs has apparently been married at least twice, since Strong Sad mentions his first wife. In [[Most in the Graveyard]], Bubs claims that many of his distant ancestors invented certain business practices: Great-great grandfather's cousin Harold, who invented the "Bait and Switch"; his brother Mort, "No Money Down"; and Zgor, another relative of Bubs. It is also mentioned that he has a sister, whom [[Coach Z]] seems to have feelings for, and that Bubs's great-great granduncle, who made "No Payments 'Til 2010," was apparently the same person as Coach Z's great good-aunt. If true, this would make [[Bubs and Coach Z's relationship|Bubs and Coach Z]] sixth-fourth-second-fifth cousins, thrice removed, although Bubs claims that [[Coach Z]] is lying.

*'''Debut:''' [[Where My Hat Is At?]]
*[[:Category:Bubs Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

{{Character Video Transcript}}

== Fun Facts ==
[[Image:Bubs Evolution - Bendy Arms.PNG|thumb|All Original Bubs! now with wavy arms!]]
* Bubs is based on a person [[The Brothers Chaps]] knew growing up who worked at a concession stand locally and spoke with the same gravelly voice.
**Matt has also admitted in interviews that Bubs's voice was heavily borrowed from the voice of [[imdb:nm0289359|Redd Foxx]] (of [[imdb:tt0068128|''Sanford and Son'']] fame).
*Bubs says he used to be able to "fly" until he said "sbu," which canceled his abilities, in the Strong Bad Email [[lunch special]]. However, Bubs says that since he gained so much weight, he could only hover a few inches off the ground, so it wasn't much of a loss. Strong Bad believes he's a big liar, and even Homestar reckons he's faking it even with the evidence before his eyes.
*According to [[keep cool]], Bubs isn't a very strong swimmer because he was wearing water wings when he was in the pool.
*Also, as seen in [[Ever and More!]] and [[lunch special]], Bubs talks about how he gained weight, implying that at some point in his life, he was skinnier. This may be due to his glandular problem/gravy boat problem, as mentioned in [[Homestar Ruiner]].
*[[Mike]] once noted that it is difficult to animate Bubs' arms (or, as he said, elbows) in The Brothers Chaps' [[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007|Georgia Tech appearance]].
*In [[crazy cartoon]] it was mentioned that he voices [[The Wheelchair]].

== Relationships ==
{{seemain|Character Relationships}}
*[[Homestar Runner and Bubs's Relationship]]
*[[Strong Bad and Bubs's Relationship]]
*[[Marzipan and Bubs's Relationship]]
*[[Bubs and Coach Z's Relationship]]
*[[Strong Sad and Bubs's Relationship]]

== Variations ==
*[[Old-Timey Bubs]] ([[Old-Timey]])
*[[The Thnikkaman]]
*[[Shark-Tooth Bubs]] ([[Puppet Stuff]])
*[[Baron Darin Diamonocle]] (From [[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]])
*[[Free_Petry_Dish,_USA_Variation#Bubsamecium|Bubsamecium]] ([[highschool]])
*[[Zubs and Coach B|Zubs or Coach B]]
*[[King Bubsgonzola Supreme]] ([[unnatural]])
*[[Strong Badman Characters#Dry Ragamuffin|Dry Ragamuffin]]
*[[Original Bubs]] ([[original]])
*[[Onion Bubs]]
*[[Bubz]] ([[Xeriouxly Forxe]])

=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===
*Rerun (from [[Wikipedia:What's Happening!!|What's Happening!!]]) in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*[[Wikipedia:Mars Blackmon|Mars Blackmon]] (from [[Wikipedia:She's Gotta Have It|She's Gotta Have It]]) in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*[[Wikipedia:Captain Lou Albano|Captain Lou Albano]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*[[Wikipedia:Mel Sharples|Mel]] (from [[Wikipedia:Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore|Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore]]) in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*One of The Three Most Important People in the World (from [[Wikipedia:Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure|Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure]]) in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*[[Wikipedia:Apollo Creed|Apollo Creed]] in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*Coach McGuirk (from [[Wikipedia:Home Movies (TV series)|Home Movies]]) in [[Happy Hallow-day]].
*Ross from [[Wikipedia:You Can't Do That On Television|You Can't Do That On Television]] in [[Jibblies 2]].
*[[Wikipedia:Junkyard Dog|The Junkyard Dog]] in [[Most in the Graveyard]].
*[[Wikipedia:Pulp Fiction (film)|Jules Winnfield]] in [[Doomy Tales of the Macabre]].

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"You stay away from my sister!"|[[Most in the Graveyard]] outtake|Mirror:bubs_mysister.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Oh you know him mo - ooaaaaAAHH Everybody knows how to talk like Bubs!"|[[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective]] outtake|Mirror:bubs_talklikebubs.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Yes, 'shaped', in quotes, like there is a bite taken out of it. There isn't. There IS one. It's a real bite taken out of it, Homestar! I ate it!"|[[The Baloneyman]] outtake|Mirror:bubs_bitetaken.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Oh. Uh... I'm a public flasher!"|[[licensed]]|Mirror:bubs_flasher.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"That would be a sweet deal I couldn't resist! N-E-S-T-L-E-S!|[[Ever and More!]] outtake|Mirror:bubs_nestles.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Crabadonk. Crabadonk. CRABADONK!"|[[the chair]] outtake|Mirror:bubs_crabadonk.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I got it-I got everything you wan know. Everybody know me, my name Cornbread."|[[A Decemberween Pageant]] outtake|Mirror:bubs_answermessup.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Hey, Coach! Tell her I said, 'Hey!' No, no, just--Tell her I said, 'Bananas!' Tell her I said, 'A bluh-buncha bananas.'"|[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]]|Mirror:bubs_background.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"You're pretty good, shorty! That's worth an ''[[IMDb:tt0114781|Under Siege 2]]'' collector's spoon!"|[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] outtake|Mirror:bubs_undersiege2.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Check it out check it out check it out check it out check it out check it out check it out..." ''{continues}''|[[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]]|Mirror:bubs_checkitout.mp3}}
*{{qotw|'''As [[Dr. Christmas]]''': "Everybody knows me. Mine name Cornbread."|[[A Decemberween Pageant]]|Mirror:bubs_cornbread.mp3}}
*{{qotw|'''As [[The Wheelchair]]''': "I know you're close by, [[Eh! Steve!]]. I can smell your natural musk!"|Possible [[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] outtake|Mirror:bubs_naturalmusk.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Women can't drive!"|[[Halloween Fairstival]]|Mirror:bubs_cantdrive.zip}}
*{{qotw-pcmac|"Shinin' up a chicken in the mo'nin', mo'nin'."|[[lunch special]]|Mirror:bubs_chickenshine.zip|Mirror:bubs_chickenshine.sit}}
*{{qotw|"Shake it once! Shake it twice, a-gimme little bit o' sugar spice!"|[[Bubs's Character Video]]|Mirror:bubs_sugarspice.wav}}
|}

==See Also==
*[[Bubs Evolution]]
*[[Bubs Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Bubs|Nicknames]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:vcr_bubs.html|watch Bubs's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_bubs.swf|view the Flash file for Bubs's character video]]

{{Characters|Bubs}}

User talk:JohnnyLurg

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== More about what you're doing now ==

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Pistols For Pandas (organization)

Heimstern Läufer — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 07:07:33 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: It's hardly mandatory that we replicate their errors in our own editorial voice, though. I dispute that there is any such error at all, but that's not a point for this page.

[[Image:pistols for pandas.png|thumb|"This good cause is good...'cause!"]]
[[Image:Pistolsforfigginpandas.png|thumb|left|PFP is already in the T-Shirt business!]]
'''Pistols For Pandas''' (or '''PFP''') is a non-profit organization that aims to give [[pistols]] to [[Bears|pandas]]. [[Crack Stuntman]] is the national spokesperson for the group. In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]], Stuntman calls and leaves a message telling [[Marzipan]] to stop protesting at their rallies. In [[Fan Costumes '09]], he says that the work is "court ordered," even though he was clearly being paid when he did a commercial for the organization. He describes pandas as "stupid, fat, slow creatures", saying they "need all the firepower they can get" so that they can protect themselves "when we come clear-cut their bamboo forests and build a five-star resort". PFP claims to have supplied guns to three hundred "underprivileged and unarmed" pandas. The logo shows an angry-looking panda with guns for eyebrows.

As explained in the toon [[Pistols for Pandas]], for each dollar they receive, they laugh at it (because what good is a dollar going to do?); but for every five-dollar donation received, one box of cereal is bought containing the best prize. Crack Stuntman eats the cereal, plays with the prize, and then removes the box top from the box. When the organization collects enough box tops, Crack dresses up like a fifth grader, takes them to a local school and buys the school a computer. After "charming the horn-rimmed glasses off the media center ladies," Crack sneaks out with the computer, takes it to a local pawn shop, and finally exchanges it for pistols, which are dumped into the panda habitat at the local zoo.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]] (mentioned)
*[[An Important Rap Song]] (logo)
*[[Punkin Stencils|Halloween Stencils]]
*[[Pistols for Pandas]]
*[[Fan Costumes '09]]
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User talk:RickTommy

Heimstern Läufer — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:38:33 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /**/Block explanation again

[[User talk:RickTommy/Archive|Archive]]

== Wits' end ==

We have asked you repeatedly not to police the wiki. This means telling other users what to do or how to do it. You simply do not seem to have the knack for when it is appropriate. We've asked you to play fair on the featured article selection page, not to edit others' comments, and not to swear in edit summaries. Yet, things aren't getting better. We don't seem to be getting through to you at all, even after you were blocked for two weeks for disruption. So, I'm going to block you three weeks. Furthermore, I think it would be best if you stayed away from the featured article selection for at least a month. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:48, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Block warning==

RickTommy, if you're warned about being blocked, don't try to fight it by making up a bogus excuse as to why it was necessary to do what you did. Just say sorry and don't do it again. We all know you did it so there is no point fighting it. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:I wasn't denying anything. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::Loafing told you that he might block you, but then you got defensive and said that the edit doesn't matter. Well it does matter. Look, if you ever get a block warning, don't try to fight it, just take the advice you're given. Thanks, {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::You know, Wasd, your behaviour isn't exactly that great either. For one thing, you posted that comment in the first place, despite the fact that it '''''does not''''' belong on that page. For another, you have posted messages in talk page archives, as you have done with my talk page as well as Heimstern's. For another, you warn users about things that they did months ago. For another, you do that to users who haven't edited for months. For another, you post signature length messages on other users' talk pages, despite the fact that 1) you shouldn't expect a response from those users, since they haven't edited for months, and 2) the signature length may only apply to your computer. And for another, you're enforcing policy by doing some of those things. I have been blocked before for trying to enforce policy, so don't be surprised if you end up being blocked as well if you continue doing that sort of stuff. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Please, people, let's break this up. And I'm mainly speaking to Wasd here. Whatever disputes RickTommy has with the sysops and whatever warnings we give him are none of your business. Please attend only to your own behaviour. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

==Support==

RickTommy, you're a cool guy. Keep it real bro. High fives, — [[Strong Bad]]
:Thanks, man. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== French subs ==

Hey, RickTommy. Please don't forget about adding <nowiki>{{fixtranslation}}</nowiki> when you do subs so Meuhcoin or someone knows to look them over. Thanks, and have a good time translating! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
:Pretty please? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:59, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::Seriously, you always need to put the tag on new French subtitles that you create.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Is there a reason for your aversion to <nowiki>{{fixtranslation}}</nowiki>? It's really not a bad thing to have it on your subtitles. It doesn't diminish your work and effort in any way.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== Complaints about the new FAS format ==

RickTommy, has it ever occurred to you that others might genuinely prefer the new format? People aren't praising it to annoy you; they're just expressing their honest opinions, which is entirely within their rights to do. Of course, it's also in your rights to disagree with it, but your constantly complaining about people who like the new system is annoying and is quickly becoming unacceptably hostile, especially with edit summaries like [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ARickTommy&diff=710107&oldid=710101 this one]. Please stop. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:58, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:Please make your complaint in a new section on [http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:Projects this page] or [http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:Featured_articles this page]. (Preferrably the latter) {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 20:17, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

== Previous edit summary ==

What {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Recent changes patrol|offset=20101026050700&limit=2&action=history}} previous edit summary}}? Edit summaries are for the page history first, recent changes a distant second. I realize those HRWiki committee pages are a special case, but in general you need to stop {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=707793}} fixing}} {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=710154}} doctorwho295's}} {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=710763}} name}} on talk pages. If he wants to sign with a lowercase letter, [[HRW:AUTOPIPE|autopipe]] takes care of the link, and there's nothing in our [[HRW:SIG|signature guidelines]] that says he has to sign with a capital letter. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

==Further response==
there are some things on your list that I agree with you on. However, while i'm not saying that anything here specifically annoys me or doesn't, I'm gonna give you a few pointers. I noticed that you added that it annoyed you "When a user creates a new article and links to that article on every page that mentions it" shortly after I linked everything I could find to [[Arby's|a new page that I didn't make]]. I was thinking, "but isn't this good practice?" It's okay; there have been times that good practice has annoyed me too. (See [[Talk:Compé]]) The thing about Strong Mad being older than Strong Bad: yes, that is a known fact. and i have a little brother who is taller and heavier than I am, so i know where you're coming from there. And by the logic displayed on your user page, Strong Sad should be older than both of them. He is known to be the youngest of the three. And the new Featured Article selection format: For example, "People praise it on purpose (much like those guys who said they liked Youtube's Beta Channels to annoy the thousands of users who absolutely disliked them)": in addition to what Heimstern has said two sections up, last i checked, we had more users who have a "Things that annoy me" section on their user page than we did complaining about the new FA selection format. So i'm sorry to say, but i don't think that's a valid comparison. And I've noticed that you've been pointing out that you're suggesting an article for the second time. The way the new format works, they won't ever need to be suggested again (or that's the way i understand it). Honest question: do you like that aspect of the format? In short, I guess I would be more comfortable with that section of your user page if it was less inclusive. but don't let me tell you how to shape your user page; you don't have to change a thing based on what I said if you don't want to. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 08:04, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:Now you're annoyed by the fact that one of the most incredibly useful exclusive features of the wiki exists? I find it very convenient (and evidently, everyone whose edits you linked to probably does too). Are you on Wikia? I've actually tried linking that way there, but it doesn't work, and it doesn't work on Wikipedia. And frankly, i think this logo is awesome. After all, it's still Trogday within six months' precision. I'd like to encourage you to loosen up a bit. Don't let things get to you, and don't take everything so seriously. Have a lighter attitude about the situations. You'll probably enjoy it more here. Just a suggestion. Also, please tell me you saw this edit summary coming. btw, what bothers you about that? it's a very helpful tool that I wish other wikis would use. Incidentally, i often try to make my edit summaries enjoyable, but the one you list as your favorite edit summary wasn't necessarily one of them; i was just citing the second time "oldie" had been said per custom on that page. i'm glad you liked it though {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 04:57, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
:::I also don't know why you call using that feature "abuse". What, in your opinion, is it supposed to be there for if not for exactly that? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

== Reminder about policing ==

RickTommy, given your recent message to that anonny, it seems I need to remind you that you are not allowed to police the wiki. In this case, yet again, it was not an appropriate message: it was vague (it didn't explain clearly what, if anything, was wrong with the anonny's edits) and was not really that accurate a representation of policy (saying "there's probably a reason we don't have those facts" would more or less imply "don't add facts to articles", which is not proper representation of policy at all). So I'm reminding you to not do this again. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 12:45, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== Block explanation ==

You have been blocked for one month for threatening to have another user blocked (specifically {{p|l={{FULLURL:User talk:Shadowtoast102|diff=prev&oldid=716222}} this edit}}) when we have told you over and over [[#Wits' end|not to police]] [[#Reminder about policing|other users]]. (The block time is so lengthy because it's your third block.) Furthermore, the things you were saying to this ''kid'' were not just rude but overtly hostile. This is why we have told you not to tell other users what to do, because when you do you are especially mean in the way you go about it. Effective once your block is up, you are restricted from editing any user's talk page other than your own. (If you try to get around this restriction, you may be blocked again.) 
By the way, as annoying and frustrating as it may be for a new user to flood the recent changes, ''there is no rule against it''. It is out ''custom'' to discourage it, but that's not the same thing as a rule. Since floods bother you so much, I have enabled enhanced recent changes in your preferences, which consolidates all changes to one page into a collapsible (and ignorable) section. Obviously if it's not to your liking you can turn it back off, but I encourage you to give it a try. In your preferences you can also increase the default number of changes you see. When viewing the recent changes page, you can hide all changes in a specific namespace (like the {{p|l={{FULLURL:SP:RC|namespace=2&invert=1}} user namespace}}). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Userpage content ==

Hi, RickTommy. It's not appropriate to use your userpage to disparage other users, here or at the forum. So you're going to need to remove the content about the forum users "TwiceStyle" and "HSR3Ever85" from your list of HRWiki-related things that annoy you. While I'm here: Is there a reason you need to have such a long list of things that annoy you on your page? It seems really unnecessarily negative, in fact, people might wonder why you even edit here if you have around a third of your userpage devoted to things that annoy you. Maybe you might think about trimming it down a bit or removing it? Just a thought (though the removal of the content disparaging other users is required). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:47, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

== C Major ==

Sorry, but your page didn't qualify. I did check and, indeed, [[In Search of the Yello Dello Old Version]] had a C-Major scale. However, [[Marzipan's Character Video]] had an ''E''-Major scale, and [[New Hands]] didn't have a major scale at all (among other things, major scales have ''eight'' notes; Strong Bad only sang five each direction). What's more, the song from [[mascot]], in addition to not being a scale, was in F Major, not A Minor - and even if it was A Minor (which, admittedly, ''is'' the minor key most similar to C Major), I don't see the merit in listing the key every song is in. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:36, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

== Talk pages and consensus ==

Typically, discussions are where we '''discuss''' articles, not just [[yes, wrestling|throwing <s>maps to the restroom</s> single-phrase declarations into the crowd]]. Your recent "flood" of opinions are all just opinions on WHAT you think should be done with the article, but give no hint as to WHY, which doesn't really help anyone. To gain '''consensus''', it's important for people to give [[english paper|a well thought-out]] opinion about an article's merits. You'll notice, for example, on [[Talk:Balloons]], that [[Intro|everybody everybody]], (beginning with myself,) made compelling arguments why the article should not stay. Coming along and simply saying "keep" without giving a reason opposite to what the rest of us have been saying is quite unlikely to do anything but be ignored. '''Consensus''' is not a vote. It's a general understanding among those involved about what the opinions are and what makes the most sense. Hope that helps! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

== {{[[User:RickTommy/sig]]}} ==

Due to how you made the html on it, it was linking all over the place. If you use a span tag inside a link, '''''please close it with <code><nowiki></nowiki></code>'''''. I have fixed it for you. Thanks. {{User:LikeLakers2/sig}} 05:44, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
:According to [[HRWiki:Signature|signature policy]], your signature must fit into this box: {{sigbox raw|1=[[Image:update-hr.png|16px]]'''[[User:That'sBupkis|That's]][[User:RickTommy|Rick]][[User talk:RickTommy|Tommy!]][[Special:Contributions/RickTommy|(contribs)]]'''}} As you can see, it does not. I'm also not quite sure why it is that you're imitating that's bupkis's sig, (even going as far as linking to HIS userpage from YOUR sig) but hey, whatever floats your boat. Please just make sure it fits properly. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:26, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
::Just for reference, here's the box with your sig un-substed (meaning, this will display whatever your signature is currently, instead of the one above which will forever display the one as was at the time of this writing.): {{sigbox|User:RickTommy/sig}} Hope that helps! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:29, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

==Week 48 Dailies==

Sorry for hastily reverting your delete tags a few minutes ago; I didn't realize until i was halfway through with the last one that you were half-right to put them there. But like I said in the last edit summary, the delete tag was displayed on the main page because it checks for a daily before checking for a weekly. There are practical reasons for this. And having the delete tag on the main page looks really tacky. I think you're right that we don't need the daily redirects, but if they are in use even as redirects, it's counter-productive to change them to the deletion template. [[:File:bad fa.PNG|This]] is what it looks like on the main page. Ironically, the linked picture is what FA's dying would look like. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 07:01, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

== My Userspace Ban ==

Okay, it's been more than a year, and I haven't complained about it nor have I tried to get around it. So can my userspace ban please be lifted? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 22:37, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
:I appreciate your not trying to get around it, but your block is for [[#Block explanation|specific reasons]]. How have you shown that you have addressed those concerns? The people over at FAS seem just as frustrated at you as ever, and you keep reporting forum posts for inappropriate reasons (which suggests to me that you still haven't learned why your behavior is unacceptable). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:16, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

== Proper place for discussions ==

''The following was originally in the deletion discussion on [[Talk:Special Text in Strong Bad Emails]]:''
<blockquote>NB: Can my userspace ban please be lifted? 
NNBB: Since we're in a hiatus, can we please lighten up on the special logos? I know I'm not the only one who has found them a bit bothersome ([[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 36#Can we *not* become Google?]]).</blockquote>

It is inappropriate to put irrelevant discussion in random threads across the wiki. Please confine discussion on various topics to the appropriate talk pages.

I addressed your ban above. As for the logo, the thread you linked to had ''one'' voice of opposition, and he was quickly outvoted. You mention the hiatus. If anything, that's a reason to do ''more'' logo changes, to keep ourselves entertained. You may just have to come to grips with the fact that the logo is going to change, probably often. If you would like to discuss it further, at least do so in the right place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:27, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
:About your dislike of the logos, you can put this in [[User:RickTommy/monobook.css|your personal Monobook stylesheet]]: <code>#p-logo a { background: url(<nowiki>http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/e/ed/Wiki-kb-c.gif</nowiki>) 35% 50% no-repeat !important; }</code>

This will keep your logo the same as it was before the swf logos were introduced. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 00:36, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== Things you hate ==

[http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Sbemailiarized%21&diff=729636&oldid=729630 Who are you even talking to here?] The redundant piping you object to so much was [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Sbemailiarized%21&diff=639378&oldid=639363 added] nearly three years ago by a user whose most recent edit was in August. So it's pretty pointless for you to vent your frustration to those of us who have to read your negative edit summary and who didn't have anything to do with it. More importantly, why did it need to be vented in the first place? Redundant piping is not a big deal. The person who added it may ''not'' have been aware it was redundant. And regardless, it took all of what, less than a minute to fix? And this is not exactly an isolated incident. You're constantly being negative at FAS, mainly concerning redirects, with no reason other than "I don't like it." Your not liking something is not a good reason why we should have to put up with your constant negativity. Seriously, stop being so negative. It's just a wiki about dumb animal characters, and if it frustrates you this much, going outside or reading a book would most certainly be a better use of your time. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:51, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

== Concerning French subs ==

Hi, RickTommy. I'm sure you're doing the best you can on the French subtitles, but you may have noticed that Meuhcoin isn't really actively checking them anymore, nor has any other native French speaker shown up to take his place. This means that the subtitles are sitting around unchecked, and we really need to offer only high-quality subtitles to our viewers. For this reason, I need to ask you to please not make any more for the time being. If all the ones you've made to this point are later checked by a native French speaker, maybe things will be different. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

== Featured Articles ==
Once again, we need to discuss your actions in terms of the FA project. If another user reverts an FA you try to push through for lack of consensus, it is ''not'' appropriate to unrevert and claim that there is consensus. The very action of someone is reverting you in a situation where only two people are in favor of something indicates a lack of consensus [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/consensus?r=75 by definition]. Further, you only just suggested [[video games]] last week. Give it some time for people to support it before just jumping in. I would support it. We've also discussed before how it's best not to slate a FA for less than one week away, and that's what you did. I'm gonna head over to the FA page and support it, but please don't go trying to switch it back at the last second for this week. We'll put it in the queue for NEXT week. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

== Sandbox, nonsense, and inappropriate behavior ==
Hey there, RickTommy. In case you haven't noticed the note in the edit box of the sandbox, it's for '''test edits''', not games and nonsense. Further, your obsession with a particular user has become inappropriate. A user whom, I might add, has not edited the wiki in over a year, and about whom I can find nowhere where the user themselves provides certain of the facts you're claiming to be true about them. I'd like to point out that this is not [[User talk:RickTommy/Archive#I've removed several things|the first time you have exhibited this kind of obsessive behavior toward another user]]. Please stop. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

== More again further about policing ==

RickTommy, since you haven't had a warning or block about this in a while, I'm going to nicely assume that you forgot about not policing. And you should be glad I'm doing so, because otherwise I would be blocking you for your rude behaviour in trying to enforce the deletion of that redirect. That you were right that it should be deleted is not the point; as I have said before more than once, '''you''' are not the one to be making enforcement decisions. A sysop would have found the redirect, regardless of your attempts or lack thereof. To sum up: do not police again or you will be facing a block, and not a short one. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:19, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

== Behavior toward other users ==

Recently you have once again shown a particular interest in another user. The specificity and persistence of your questions have begun to cross a certain line. It's not appropriate to pester another user to be more active or to "keep in touch", so please do not do this in the future. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:16, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

== Block explanation again ==

RickTommy, you have once again been policing the wiki by enforcing your preferences at FAS. You've been told many times that you are not under any circumstances allowed to police the wiki. Furthermore, your behaviour in this episode illustrates once again why you are not permitted to do so: once again, you have done so in an overtly hostile manner. As just one example, you told DeFender "*don't" call me RT" when you have never told him (or anyone else, as far as I'm aware) that you dislike being called that. In such a case, the proper thing to do is to nicely say "DeFender, I'd prefer you didn't call me that, please," not to snap at someone. And while one snap like that could be brushed off as a bad day, you've been consistently snappy with him and Ngamer because they've tried to stop you getting your way. And that brings me to my last point. Edit warring to get your way is unacceptable, and you've been doing this practically since day one of the new format. As warnings don't seem to be getting you to stop your unacceptable behaviour, you are now blocked for two weeks. When you return, please stop trying to constantly get your way at FAS and start working cooperatively with others. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:38, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Doomy Tales of the Macabre

Heimstern Läufer — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 04:21:55 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* Real-World References */ actually, "mirror, mirror" is the original, from the Brothers Grimm. "Magic mirror" is the Disney version.

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|ween09|Decomposing Pumpkins|Fan Costumes '09}}
[[File:GloomyTalesOfTheMacabre.png|thumb|"To achieve literary justice, and send each to their DOOOOM!"]]

Strong Sad takes control this year!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, [[Onion Bubs]], {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The Sad Kids}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}

{{costumeslink}}

'''Places:''' [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[The King of Town's Castle]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Field]], [[The Halloween House]], [[Computer Room]]

'''Date:''' Thursday, October 29, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 5:57

'''Page Title:''' Available wherever doomy books are sold!

==Transcript==
''{Open to an almost-entirely black screen, with a window in the corner. As the following words are said, they are written at the bottom of the screen in red.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ''{He has a slight echo throughout the toon, unless noted.}'' One chilled ''{said as "chillèd"}'' Hallow's Eve I rose,

''{Strong Sad steps out of the shadows. The next line is not written on the screen.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And sat right down to writing,

''{He sits down as a desk moves in to view, with a paper and inkwell on it. He pulls out a pen and takes it to the paper.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' For none had bothered to propose, to their parties, my inviting.

''{Cut back to another mostly-black screen with another window. Strong Sad is seen writing at the desk in white silhouette. The words are again written in red.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I crafted such a macabre ''{said in an exaggerated fashion}'' tale there in my darkened room

''{Cut to a closeup of Strong Sad.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' To achieve literary justice, and send each to their DOOOOM! ''{As he says the final word, his skull image appears over his head, the screen glows slightly green, and a musical sting is heard.}''

''{To music, a book entitled "DOOMY TALES OF THE MACABRE by S. Sad" appears. On the cover, Strong Sad is dressed as the grim reaper and laughing. In front of him lie skulls of other main characters.}''

''{Cut to the exterior of the King of Town's castle. One window is brightly lit. The camera zooms in on that window.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' We start with the most expendable. Grrrreetings, ''{with the R rolled}'' King of Town!

''{Cut to inside the castle, where the King of Town is slowly sinking into a giant boiling pot.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' For this glutton, a stew of mutton in which to slowly drown!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I thought these were Tales of the McArby: ''{A book appears with "TALES OF THE McARBY" on it, showing an enormous hamburger.}'' the mythical fast-food crossover sandwich of legend!

''{The book disappears. The King of Town is now mostly submerged. He gurgles a bit and munches on the mutton on the way down. The King of Town's skull, in the shape of The Municipality logo, appears over his head as he sinks, to a musical sting. Cut to an image of a crystal ball.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' What's this? ''{Marzipan walks up to the crystal, and a distorted reflection of her is visible in it.}'' The fair maid Marzipan considering a brand new man?

''{Homestar leans in.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan! Have you seen my toenail clippings? I left them right on top of your toothbrush.

''{Marzipan glares at Homestar for a moment, and then into the crystal.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Crystal, crystal, on the ball, I need a better boyfriend, y'all!

''{Closeup on the ball, which is glowing. A warbling sound is heard.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' But the gypsy forces she invoked decided they would play a joke!

''{The ball flashes to a thunderclap. Cut to Homestar, but pan immediately so that only his shadow is visible.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' AaaaaaaaAAAAAAA...

''{His shadow and voice both shift to match Coach Z's}''

'''COACH Z:''' AAAAARRAOOOOOORR!

''{Pan back over to Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey there, my little love jorb! ''{Holds up his foot, which is encased in a shoe that's falling apart. It's stained and some hairs are on it.}'' These bunions, corns, and calluses aren't gonna pumice themselves!

''{Cut to Marzipan.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{halfheartedly; her skull appears over her face to the musical sting}'' Nuuuuuuu... Oh, wait, ''{squinting}'' what's that say? ''{The skull appears to the musical sting again.}'' Nooooooooo!

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand. Bubs is in silhouette. The top of the screen resembles the paper Strong Sad is writing on, and Strong Sad's line is written on it.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And now we join a man obse—

'''COACH Z:''' ''{interrupting}'' Hey, ''{Sudden cut back to Coach Z.}'' what abrat ''my'' doom?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Um, you're already Coach Z. No sense in beating a dead horse.

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, good point!

''{Coach Z's skull appears over his face to the musical sting. Cut back to the Concession Stand, the same as before.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And now we join a man obsessed with sales and liquidation,

''{Cut to inside the Stand. Bubs is concocting some sort of potion with a complicated device. He has some bubble gum in his costume's wig. A bottle of "TOXIC WASTE" is sitting near him.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Dabbling with fiendish tests and genetic experimentation.

'''BUBS:''' I'll just take this piece of brain from my wig... ''{grabs the bubble gum and throws it into the concoction. Strong Sad's face appears in the top-left corner of the screen.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' But you all know how these things go, with unnatural creations.

''{Cut back outside the Stand.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' A puff of smoke! ''{smoke appears}'' A greenish glow! ''{the space inside the Stand turns green}'' Voila! ''{the music stops}'' Horrible abomination!

''{A giant puff of smoke appears. The text on the stand has been replaced with Bubs-like eyes, and teeth resembling Bubs' teeth hang above the stand's window. Bubs, now clearly visible, looks up at this. The stand growls and the teeth shake.}''

'''BUBS:''' Aw, this was supposed to ''reduce'' my overhead! Not turn ''into'' my head!

''{The teeth chomp at Bubs, severing his head from his body. The head, with Xs in place of eyes, flies forward and lands in front of Onion Bubs.}''

'''ONION BUBS:''' Welcome to ''my'' world! ''{cackles with an...}'' Ehhhhh-heheheheheheeeeeeeh!

''{Bubs' skull appears over his head to a musical sting. Cut to Pom Pom and the Poopsmith in the middle of the field.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' These two no-talkers need to go!

''{A piece of paper comes down from the top of the screen; both characters look at it. "Poopmith" is written on it over Strong Sad's next line.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Let's eliminate a Poopsmith O!

''{The word on the paper becomes "POpmith". A tire pump from Dig Dug appears in front of the Poopsmith. The Poopsmith looks at it and starts pumping it. As he does, a tube connects from it to Pom Pom. Pom Pom becomes pixelated and grows bigger, until he pops. Crickets chirp for a moment.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover, unsure}'' Oh, uh, and Pom Pom was filled with a deadly gas... ''{a cloud of gas appears where Pom Pom was}'' that killed the Popsmith...really...fast.

''{The Poopsmith suddenly falls over onto the tire pump. His skull appears over his head, and Pom Pom's over his cloud, with a really fast musical sting. Cut to Homestar running in the field.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Homestar Runner, fast like the whind, but how fast can he run when his knees can't bend?

''{As Homestar passes a tree, his legs straighten out to a musical sting. He keeps running, albeit slower, anyway.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oooh! Hey, this ain't so bad! ''{Hearts appear over his head}'' Gives me the good thoughts, you know.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Well, I'll revise, then, if you please. What if each leg had several knees?

''{A flash of light and musical sting as Homestar's legs become curved and tangled. Nonetheless, he shuffles along anyway.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, great! It's like I'm wadin' through puddin' with every step! And everyone knows how much the Homestar Runner loves wadin' through puddin'. ''{Zoom in on Homestar, who stops.}'' Strong Sad, these doomy tales of macrame aren't very scary. ''{He walks forward.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Oh, there's an idea!

''{Cut to the dark room where Strong Sad is writing, now silhouetted in gray. Homestar shuffles in as a white silhouette. The words are written on the bottom of the screen again.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' A crafty fad, once loved by all. I'll hang you on a '70s basement wall!

''{Suddenly, the background becomes a yellow wallpaper, and Homestar becomes a macrame owl hanging on it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{terrified}'' Oh no! Macrame! My worst nightmare!

''{Marzipan steps forward.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' But Macrame Owl Homestar, I give you a macrame dream catcher for Decemberween every year.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' My point exactlyyyyyyy!

''{Homestar's skull appears over the macrame Homestar to the musical sting. Marzipan jumps back in surprise. Coach Z steps in.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Get back upstairs and cook my seventies dinner, woman!

''{Marzipan scowls and walks off.}''

'''COACH Z:''' And put on a pantsuit, fer cryin' out loud!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Halloween is ''{Cut to the Sad Kids approaching a house with a candy bag. A paper appears, with Strong Sad's words written on it.}'' very handy, for those with appetites for candy.

''{The paper disappears as a hand drops a piece of candy into the bag. The Sad Kids walk off.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Except for greedy trick-or-treaters...

''{Cut to Strong Mad and The Cheat.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Like Strong Mad and The Cheat... ''{struggles for a rhyme}'' er...

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{interrupting}'' CHECK OUT MY NEW TREAT BAG!

''{He indicates a dumpster with "TR[[Lowercase i's|i]]CK TREAT" spray-painted on it.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to the moon, panning back.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' All night long, they gathered sweets,

''{The dumpster comes into view. Candy is poured into it.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And tossed upon the growing heap! When finally struck the midnight hour,

''{Strong Mad and The Cheat appear in the dumpster and start scarfing down candy. The Cheat disappears suddenly.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' 'Twas not just candy he devoured! ''{chuckles}''

''{Strong Mad chokes a little and yellow hairs fly out of his mouth.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' THE CHEAT? NOOOOOO!!!

''{Strong Mad's skull appears over his head, and The Cheat's over his stomach, for the musical sting.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' That's not macabre! ''{pronounced as "macab-er"}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad standing near the dumpster.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad eats The Cheat like four times a day! How do you think we give him baths?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Oh, fine! ''{Strong Bad looks upwards left and right, in search of Strong Sad}'' Well, I saved the ''most'' macabre ''{exaggerated}'' for last!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'd like to see you get macabré on mé!

''{Cut to the Compé. Strong Bad types Strong Sad's words.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Strong Bad, as he always does, checks emails from his fans, what if,

''{Cut to behind the Compé.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' instead of boxing gloves, a pair of human hands?!

''{Strong Bad's hands are replaced by live-action human hands. Strong Bad recoils, knocking The Compé's monitor away. The hands' fingers continually move, except when in contact with the Compé's keyboard. The musical sting comes back.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aaahhh! I'm hideous! How will I ever type with these waggly knuckled monstrosities?!

''{He attempts to type, but fails. His skull appears over his head to the musical sting. Music begins. Fade out and back in to Strong Sad.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Now all have met their grisly fate, such horrors for you to see. Perchance next time they'll all think twice before not inviting me!

''{The lights suddenly come on, and Strong Sad looks up with a happy surprised face.}''

'''ALL:''' Happy Halloween, Strong Sad!

''{Cut back to show Strong Sad looking at all the other main characters except Homsar.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{His voice no longer exhibits the echo}'' A surprise party? Just for me?! Oh, you guys shouldn't have! You all really do care!

''{The characters all fall forward, revealed to be a giant cardboard cutout with the [[booOOMbox]] behind it.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh. ''{to the viewer, nervously:}'' Heh, heh, you weren't really supposed to see that, uh... let's just flick the light back off, shall we?

''{He turns off the light. The words "the end." appear to music, with skulls of the characters appearing below it. Cut to a scene of all the characters standing around in the field.}''

==Easter Eggs==
* During the scene with Pom Pom and The Poopsmith in the field, click on The Poopsmith's Goron Ruby tattoo to see the Homsar Easter egg.

:''{Shows the clip of Homsar being crushed by the Heavy Lourde from [[homsar]].}''
:'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Crushed once by a Heavy Lourde in sbemail number two. ''{fades into Homsar standing alone in an area with two dead trees}'' To keep this little weirdo dead, only a heavy gourd will do!
:'''HOMSAR:''' My punjab has a pretty price-tag! ''{His bowler hat spins in midair and flies off the top of the screen}''
:''{A gourd marked "Heavy Gourd" comes down and crushes Homsar, then his skull flashes over where he used to be to the musical sting. His hat lands on top of the gourd.}''

*At the end, click on Strong Mad:
:'''STRONG MAD:''' MOVE-A MOVE-A!

*At the end, click on The Poopsmith:
:''{Homestar sings Saria's song from [[Wikipedia:The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time|The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time]] [[Singing Out Of Tune|slightly off-key]] as The Poopsmith dances}''

*At the end, click on Bubs:
:'''BUBS:''' Hey, Coach Z, you seen my wallet?
:'''COACH Z:''' Well, what does it look like?
:'''BUBS:''' It's the one that says "Bad business practices".

*At the end, click on The King of Town:
:'''STRONG BAD:''' The King of Town ate the colonel's mustard, and the rope, and the parlor.
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I admit to only two thirds of that statement!

*At the end, click on Coach Z:
:'''COACH Z:''' Say, Marzipan, peep this: "You take two steps frorward and I'll take two steps back." Huh? No? I'm a cold-hearted snake? Rush rush? The Laker girls?

*At the end, click on The Cheat:
:''{The Cheat grabs his backside and pulls himself into the air. A stone podium inscribed "UNLESS" appears under The Cheat, and he flies away. The podium disappears and The Cheat reappears with a pop.}''

*At the end, click on Strong Bad:
:''{As he speaks, a face resembling the face of the moon in [[Legend of Zelda|The Legend Of Zelda: Majora's Mask]] fades in and out repeatedly on the surface of the moon.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sarcastically}'' Oh no, the evil moon is crashing into the Earth again! What a totally un-frustrating way to play a video game!

*At the end, click on Marzipan:
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Run, Marzipan, Run—off of a cliff, preferably.
:'''MARZIPAN:''' You Kinder Überraschung!

*At the end, click on Homestar:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, I'm just gonna save everybody some time and burn through these. ''{quickly}'' Pom Pom? Underwater orange juice man? Classic. Strong Bad? Scarecrow and Mrs. King? I would've preferred Jake and the Fat Man, but nice work. The Cheat as the thorax? Love it. Favorite part of the insect. Coach Z? Not sure if I wanna know the answer to this, but did you steal Mickey Mouse's pants? Marzipan, off-duty Ronald McDonald? It is what it is. And finally, Homestar, you seem to be distraught. ''{turns around}'' People try and make me sound a lot... weird, y'know, and I'm strong! And I can... kick... ''{lifts his leg to kick. It becomes the curled-up tangle it was during the toon.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Macabre|Macabre]] is a literary and artistic style characterized by its grim nature and details of death.
*[[Wikipedia:Macrame|Macrame]] is a form of textile-making using knotting rather than weaving or knitting.
*[[Wikipedia:Overhead|Overhead]] refers to a business's expenses that aren't tied to sales (e.g. rent, labor, utilities, advertising).

===Trivia===
*The [[FeedBurner Page#Ween - New Halloween Toon!|RSS description]] of this toon is:
<blockquote>'''Strong Sad says''' - At long last my prose takes center stage in our latest Halloween adventure! Witness my Lovecraftian/Poe-lian/Blochy opus, 'Doomy Tales of the Macabre!' Since I'm a notoriously bad prankster (although I thought replacing everyone's iodized salt with sea salt was pretty genius), I decided to go with what I know and hit everybody with my best weapon: weird gloomy fiction! No one is spared! All will suffer! Have a safe and pleasant Halloween!</blockquote>
*This is the first time Onion Bubs has spoken.
*This cartoon marks the first time that both Bubs and Onion Bubs were visible at the same time.
*This is the second time that a character has sported two different costumes in the same Halloween Toon: Strong Sad is wearing his Grim Reaper getup on the cover of his book.


===Skulls===

This is the first time we see all of the main characters' skulls. They give an insight to the characters' facial features.

*Strong Sad appears to have the most human skull.
*Coach Z and Pom Pom both lack a mouth and a lower jaw.
*Bubs and the King of Town have no lower jaws, just their teeth.
*The King of Town's skull is similar to the [[Municipality]] logo.
*Homsar's hat appears to be part of his skull.
*Homestar has a very big lower jaw, but no teeth. This is strange as in [[theme song]], Homestar is shown with teeth.
*Strong Mad's shoulders appear to be part of his head.
*Strong Bad's mask design is etched into his skull. This could back up the belief that Strong Bad's mask IS his face.

===Remarks===
*Many characters [[fourth wall breaks|break the fourth wall]] by speaking to Strong Sad as he narrates. Marzipan does so by misreading a cue card. Strong Bad also does so by typing what Strong Sad is narrating. Strong Sad does so by addressing the audience at the end.
*Strong Sad pronounces "chilled" as "[[-èd|chillèd"]].
*The patty on the McArby resembles that of the [[Blubb-O's|Thick 'n Nasty]].
*Marzipan wears a tank top in this Toon, revealing her skin. This adds to the theory that her body is skirt-shaped (see also: [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]).
*This cartoon suggests that both Coach Z and Homestar have toes.
*"Boyfriend" Coach Z appearing with Macrame Owl Homestar is a strange and subtle case of a [[duplicate character]].
*Even though Strong Mad coughs up The Cheat's hair, he doesn't seem to eat The Cheat (The Cheat doesn't appear to go into Strong Mad's Mouth).
*This toon suggests that Strong Bad has a wireless keyboard.
*The Compé was purchased with, and has been shown with, a mouse. However, it appears to be absent in this toon, though it could have fallen off the desk with the Compé itself.
*When Strong Bad's Gloves turn into hands, the hands don't seem to be attached to his body at all.
*Strong Bad mentions "the parlor" in the King of Town's Easter egg, but this is not one of the rooms included in the game [[Wikipedia:Cluedo|Clue]], on which the King of Town's costume is based.
*Strong Sad's not being invited to Halloween parties could be a reference to [[Homestarloween Party]], in which he so depresses the other guests that Marzipan bans him from future parties.
*The ending scene has each character in the exact position they were in during the [[Jibblies 2]] ending scene.

===Goofs===
[[File:BubsGlitchMouth-Ween09.png|thumb|It's the one that says Bad Animation Practices!]]
*The Poopsmith is dressed as Darunia, but the tag at the end says that he is "King Dirunia". In addition to the spelling error, Darunia (though the leader of the Gorons) is not a king. The Gorons in Goron City refer to him only as "Big Brother".
*Homsar's hat is dressed up for Halloween, but at the end, he is wearing his normal bowler hat.
*"Poopsmith" and "Popsmith" are both missing the "s" when they are written on the parchment paper.
*Bubs' beard from his costume shows a sliver of his teeth sticking out.

===Glitches===
*As with all years, the cursor can hover over Homsar to bring up his name and costume while characters give their Easter egg speeches, which is not possible for any other characters. This is due to Homsar being added in over the movie clip, and not affected by the rendering level that the others are in.

===Inside References===
*Bubs' Concession Stand also turned into Bubs's head in the [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!|2005 April Fools' Day special]].
*The dispenser of "TOXIC WASTE" appears to be the the dispenser of "Green Apple" snow cone syrup Strong Bad pierced with a pencil in [[DNA Evidence]] with the label covered up.
*Strong Bad's fate is having to type with [[How do you type with boxing gloves on?|human hands]].
*The dooms written by Strong Sad involve the [[death]]s of several characters.
*The King Of Town's "death" is by [[stew]].
*Strong Sad mentions that Homsar was killed by the [[Heavy Lourde]] in [[homsar|sbemail number 2]].
*Homestar has trouble [[What are you supposed to be?|identifying the costumes]].
*Strong Sad's pronunciation of "macabre" is [[Foreign Words|irregular]].
*Strong Sad suggests that Strong Mad [[The Cheat being eaten|eats the Cheat]].
*The King of Town's skull image resembles the logo for [[the Municipality]].
*This toon is done in the style of the poetry of [[Edgar Allan Poe]].
*Strong Bad previously showed his inability to type with fingers in email [[fingers]].
*Strong Sad is seen [[Strong Sad Smiling|smiling]].
*Coach Z says [[Jorb]].
*Homsar was previously referred to as "this little weirdo" in [[different town]].
*Strong Sad was first seen as the [[Grim Reaper]] in [[Experimental Film]].
*The hand that gives the Sad Kids candy was previously seen in [[hygiene]] and [[Career Day]].
*Homsar dressing up as Little Orphan Annie is another example of [[cross-dressing]].
*Strong Sad says "Grrrreetings" the same way he did in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 16.2]].
*[[Wikipedia:Kinder Surprise|Kinder Überraschung]] has been referenced very briefly in [[alternate universe]].
*Strong Bad was previously shown being horrified by bare human hands in [[The Animated Adventures of Puppet Homestar]].
*The Cheat's method of bathing may refer to Strong Mad Baths, one of the new boons The Cheat earns in [[privileges]].

===Real-World References===
[[File:Majora's Moon.png|thumb|300px|What a totally unfrustrating likeness!]]
*McArby is a [[portmanteau]] of [[McDonald's]] and [[Arby's]].
*Strong Bad's comment about the moon falling refers to ''[[The Legend of Zelda|The Legend Of Zelda: Majora's Mask]]'', in which, the moon would come crashing down after 3 in-game days (about 54-72 minutes real-world time, under normal conditions), causing a game over unless Link reset time using the Ocarina of Time. His comment about it being a "totally unfrustrating" manner of play refers to how this time limit and limited saving caused frustration among some gamers having to repeat similar parts of the game frequently as well as a feeling of being rushed. The face on the moon as he says this resembles the one in the game.
*The song that Homestar sings and the Poopsmith dances to is Saria's Song from [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time]]. In this game, the player must make Goron Chieftain Darunia dance to this song. This tune also plays in different locations in various later games in the series.
*Pom Pom is dressed as an enemy from the Namco game Dig Dug. The way the Poopsmith inflates and pops him with a pump is the same as how enemies are killed in the game.
*Marzipan says "Crystal, crystal, on the ball," a reference to the line "Mirror, mirror, on the wall" from [[Wikipedia: Snow White|Snow White]].
*When you click on Homestar at the end of the toon, the Easter Egg wraps up with him claiming to be strong and able to kick. This, along with Homestar's costume, is a reference to Crispin Glover's 1987 [[Wikipedia:Crispin Glover#Late Night appearance|appearance on "Late Night with David Letterman"]] where he kicked at Letterman.
*Coach Z's Easter egg makes heavy reference to [[Wikipedia:Paula Abdul|Paula Abdul]], including her songs "[[Wikipedia:Opposites Attract|Opposites Attract]]", "Cold Hearted Snake", and "Rush Rush". [[Wikipedia:MC Skat Kat|MC Skat Kat]] first appeared in Abdul's "Opposites Attract" video. Paula Abdul was also once a [[Wikipedia:Laker Girls|Laker girl]].
*Strong Bad's quote "Run, Marzipan, Run" is based on the source of Marzipan's costume, the [[German]] movie ''[[Wikipedia:Run Lola Run|Run Lola Run]]''.
**Marzipan's reply, "You [[Wikipedia:Kinder Surprise|Kinder Überraschung]]!" refers to the German confection also known as "Kinder Surprise" or "Kinder Egg".
*Bubs' Easter egg is a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Pulp Fiction (film)|Pulp Fiction]]'', where his costume, Jules, originated from. Jules had a wallet saying a similar, but vulgar, phrase on it.
**Bubs pulling the brain from his hair is a reference to another scene from ''Pulp Fiction''.
**And Bubs holding a soda cup is yet another reference.
*[[Wikipedia:Scarecrow and Mrs. King|Scarecrow and Mrs. King]] was a US TV series that ran from 1983 and 1987 about the adventures of a spy and a divorced housewife.
*[[Wikipedia:Jake and the Fatman|Jake and the Fatman]] was a US TV series that ran from 1987 to 1992 about a prosecuting attorney and an investigator.
*The Cheat "lifts himself up by the seat of his pants" and "takes leave of this place... without leaving a trace", leaving only a pile of rocks bearing the word "UNLESS", just as The Lorax does.
**There is also a Thneed lying at The Cheat's feet when he is first shown. A Thneed is a product made from the Lorax's beloved Truffula Trees, and which (claims the Once-Ler, the book's villain) "everyone, everyone, everyone needs".
**The Cheat speaks with jagged lines surrounding him, like The Lorax does.
*When Strong Mad says "MOVE-A MOVE-A", it is a reference to a lyric spoken in the Dire Straits song and video "[[Wikipedia:Money for Nothing|Money for Nothing]]".
*Homsar is dressed as [[Wikipedia:Little Orphan Annie|Little Orphan Annie]], and his line refers to "Punjab", a recurring character from that comic strip.
*Strong Bad's remarks about the King of Town's costume reflect the format of guesses made during [[Wikipedia:Cluedo|Clue]] (who, what, and where), on which the King of Town's costume is based.
*Strong Sad's RSS entry refers to [[Edgar Allan Poe]], [[Wikipedia:H. P. Lovecraft|H. P. Lovecraft]] and [[Wikipedia:Robert Bloch|Robert Bloch]].

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Heimstern Läufer: rv; let's not; MAM 9.2 was approved specifically for this next week. I think the writeup looks fine. Sorry no one checked sooner.

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=== [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] ===

''{{done}} {{FA|22 Oct 2012}}''

Surprised it was never featured; also, it was once accidentally bolded on the nominations page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
:This will be nice to feature next year for Halloween. Second'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
::I think we should hold this one off until Halloween next year as well. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 18:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I approve of a Hallow's Eve '12 feature. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 23:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
::::I'm guessing you guys mean the week ''before'' Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, week before. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 13:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::I made a [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|draft]] of a Bad Graphics Ghost FA. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
While I understand that you guys want to feature this for the week before 'Ween, I intended this one as a feature for any time. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 20:16, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Then you're going to be annoyed at Halloween FA reruns if we do this ASAP. At least by waiting, you'll get one new Halloween FA this year that is if FAS isn't put on hiatus by that time. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::I also think this will make a fine feature for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:29, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
:::You know what, I've changed my mind. I don't think this should be featured at all if it's going to conflict with the suggestions that I have in mind for Ween. And like I said, I intended this one to be featured any time. Also, the week of Ween is specifically for the big toons. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:15, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
::::RickTommy, you're not approaching this the right way. You're talking about it conflicting with "the suggestions that '''I''' have in mind for Ween" and how "'''I''' intended this one to be featured at any time" (emphasis mine). What you think is scarcely the point. It's what the community thinks that matters, and they clearly think this article should be featured the week before Halloween. If it's against your plans, I'm sorry, that's rough. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::Actually Soiled Bargains, Defender, and I wanted this for Halloween week. Rick was the one that stated that everyone wanted it before Halloween when actually only Power Pie wanted it for before Halloween. So technically this doesn't have consensus. I'll move this out of the queue. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::Could we please have clarification on this? I assumed when people said "Halloween" they meant "the Halloween season", not specifically that week. Since we do indeed nearly always feature a full-length toon on Halloween itself, and I don't really see why it would be different this year. Are people fine with making this the week before Halloween? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm cool with this being the week before, though I see no reason for it not to be the week of, especially in a Hiatus where there is not an unlimited supply of big halloween toons. Also, Ngamer, there IS consensus to feature, we even have consensus as to roughly when to feature, just not clear on which of the two proposed weeks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:You're right that there's not an unlimited supply of big toons, but there ''are'' some left that haven't been featured, and I think at least one is highly deserving of being featured. In fact, from what I can see, we still have three more years before we'd run out. And there is tradition: while I know that "we've always done it" isn't in and of itself a valid reason, all other things being equal, there's a lot to be said for sticking to tradition. And I for one am in favour of keeping our big toon tradition. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::Fair enough. Let's stick with the week before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::I guess I hadn't explained well my reasons from earlier. I mean I know there is consensus for this to be featured, but there was no consensus on when to feature and without that, this had to be moved out of the queue until consensus on when to feature was reached...which is now. I guess if Halloween FA week is for big Halloween toons only, I guess I'm fine with Bad Graphics Ghost being a lead-in to the actual Halloween FA week. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 19:11, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::I know this is a done deal but I also wanted to give my support for the week before halloween (week 43 as stated). Even if we run out of big toons to feature I think we can rerun old big toons in the coming years. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===

''{{done}} {{FA|29 Oct 2012}}''

[[Halloween Fairstival]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:Sure why not. Support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::Since this'll be October 29... how about [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]? It'll be ten years old to the day (Oct 29/02 - Oct 29/12) ...just another idea. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 17:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
:::First of all, [[weclome]] back, Bupkis. Where have you been for the past year and a half? Second of all, Carve-nival has already been featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay. Also, I haven't been very active here lately, with the hiatus and what not... I guess when sbemail206 rolls around things will pick up :p {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 22:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::So, you support Fairstival, right? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, we could do that. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 23:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I had attempted to expand Rick's stub after moving it [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Halloween Fairstival|here]]. As soon as the writeup is reviewed and fixed, the redirect I did for Week 44 can be reverted for the finished writeup. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:39, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Strong Sad's iPod]]===

''{{done}} {{FA|12 Nov 2012}}''

I'm feeling a little random and want to feel less hypocritical, so I'd like to throw this out as an suggestion. SS's iPods were seen on [[Podstar Runner 2006]] and it's last incarnation [[Podstar Runner]], so the iPod was important in the past. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
:Support, I guess. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::I've got [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Strong Sad's iPod|a draft]] up for review and fixing if it'll help any. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::I think it needs to be reworded to make it clear that strong sad has had many ipods over the years, rather than talking about "strong sad's ipod" as a singular item. I like the idea of this as a feature, the writeup just needs significant improvement before i put in my complete support. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:32, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've improved it as best I can. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:37, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::After seeing the improvements, I support. (That Other Anonny Guy) [[Special:Contributions/121.219.232.190|121.219.232.190]] 11:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::The draft now strikes me as being disjointed and the same kind of laundry list as some of the other drafts i've made similar comments about. I'd like to see a draft that's both cohesive and comprehensive. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:51, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I think my recent changes to the draft have brought it together in a way with which i'm satisfied. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:04, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]]===

''{{todo}} {{FA|26 Nov 2012}}''

Like Heimstern said, it's really really funny, and makes sense to be featured right after thanksgiving, so i'd like to see it featured for the following week, Nov 26 - Dec 2. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:23, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
:Agree per already stated reasoning. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:26, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
::I also support featuring for the proposed post-thanksgiving timeline. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:09, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[2-Part Episode: Part 1]]===

''{{todo}} {{FA|3 Dec 2012}}''

I'm wondering how we'd feature these. Should we feature them simultaneously, back-to-back, or with Part 1 getting half a week and Part 2 getting the other half? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Back-to-back weeks would be best since each episode has enough material to make 'em stand for their own week. I don't see a need to feature both in one week. Support'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[2-Part Episode: Part 2]]===

''{{todo}} {{FA|10 Dec 2012}}''

I'm wondering how we'd feature these. Should we feature them simultaneously, back-to-back, or with Part 1 getting half a week and Part 2 getting the other half? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Back-to-back weeks would be best since each episode has enough material to make 'em stand for their own week. I don't see a need to feature both in one week. Support'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Decemberween in July]] Dailies===

''{{todo}} {{FA|17 Dec 2012}}''

[[Homestar and the Nice Present]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I propose a bit of a bolder move, and do a set of dailies from [[Decemberween In July]]. Most of them have already been featured on their own, but it'd be nice to see these featured all together. It'd include the above suggestion as well as a couple of other toons that haven't been featured yet. Here's the order i'd propose, with a star next to those that have been featured already (we can reuse the writeups for those):
:*Day 1 — [[Decemberween In July]] (To introduce the week)
:*Day 2 — [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 6]]*
:*Day 3 — [[That Time of Year]]*
:*Day 4 — [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]*
:*Day 5 — [[Homestar and the Nice Present]]
:*Day 6 — [[Seasonal Sweaters]]
:*Day 7 — [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]*
:{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::That set of dailies sounds like a fun idea! I support it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Holiday dailies of old and new sound good to me. Support'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::::As much as I dislike redirects, it's almost worth doing them if they're part of a daily, given how uncommon dailies are. So I support this daily too. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman 20X6]]===

''{{todo}} {{FA|31 Dec 2012}}''

Either [[Stinkoman 20X6]] or [[Make-O Your Own Stinko]]. In the case of Stinkoman 20X6, I know it's been suggested several times that we wait until it's finished before we feature it, but at the rate H*R is going, it probably won't be finished. As for Make-O Your Own Stinko, it's the very first article for which I have drafted a write-up, which you can see [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Make-O Your Own Stinko|here]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:For many years, I was opposed to featuring Stinkoman 20X6 before its completion, but now that it seems about as likely to be finished as Schubert's 8th Symphony is, I am no longer opposed. Indeed, given its importance, I would consider it a good choice for featuring. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:46, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
::Yeah let's go with Stinkoman 20X6. This may be it's last chance at a feature especially if FAS closes at some point later. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

==Article discussions==

===Week of Thanksgiving (Nov 19-25)===

[[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-Cards]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I never liked that one. Personally, I'd suggest re-featuring [[Let us give TANKS!]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::Didn't even realize that TANKS would have been the default rerun for this anyway. Also, to be clear, when I say re-feature, I don't necessarily mean using the same writeup, since it might be nice to expand it now that we're far less worried about giving spoilers. The old one also seems a bit dry as compared to the writeups we tend to do nowadays. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:41, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
:::Less concerned about spoilers how? What exactly do you think should be added to the old writeup? I certainly don't think the ending with the nuclear device should be revealed on the main page; I think the ending gag definitely needs to remain a surprise. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
::::What I meant by less concerned about spoilers was... not important. I think I was thinking of something else which in my fully awake state doesn't make nearly as much sense as it did last night when I wrote that. Anyway, I'd expand the writeup somewhat to be a little less dry and more fun, and have a few more details. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::A re-run just because someone doesn't like the original suggestion? I think not. I'll also propose [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:14, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::Let me be a bit more clear then. E-cards and MAM9 are not big thanksgiving toons, and they're both kinda meh. In addition, reruns when there's no consensus for an original suggestion is EXACTLY how the system works, and let me remind you again that you seem to be the only person who has any sort of problem with that. If we don't get consensus it'll end up being tanks anyway. I'm just attempting to head that off and propose we at least feature tanks with a newly created writeup, rather than reusing the old one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 08:56, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I agree with Deffy on nearly all points, particularly that E-cards is kind of meh and that redirects are a fine solution that no one hates but you. As for MAM 9, I don't think it's meh at all, I think it's really, really funny. But it's ''not'' a Thanksgiving toon. It contains a Thanksgiving afterthought. In fact, I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to feature it right after Thanksgiving, since that's when it was released and when it's set, apparently. It would fit well with what's on readers' minds. But putting a toon about "Is it next Thanksgiving yet?" during the week of Thanksgiving does not fit well at all. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:17, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I too, support Defender's suggestion to re-feature TANKS for Thanksgiving. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:09, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Sorry to pile on, but I also wanna see TANKS again for Thanksgiving week. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:32, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Snowglobe]]===
Since we had a re-run for the week before D'ween last year, I think that we should make up for it by doing three D'ween articles this year. For this week, [[Snowglobe]], the article that was suggested for the week before D'ween last year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I see no reason to do three this year just because one was a rerun last year. I also am not sure there's enough to say about snowglobe to feature. It's pretty much just a dumb snowglobe with a timer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with DeFender on both points. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::I also agree. Snowglobe just doesn't offer enough for a quality writeup now that I take a second look at it. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::::I also agree that Snowglobe isn't worth featuring. (That Other Anonny Guy) [[Special:Contributions/121.219.232.190|121.219.232.190]] 11:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 24-30)===
[[A Decemberween Mackerel]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:Nah, i kinda hate mackarel. Senor Cardgage isn't at all his usual self, and the whole toon just makes me feel like TBC had waited so long to make one that they forgot how to actually create a homestar toon. Kinda like star wars episode 1. [[A Death-Defying Decemberween]] is a much better choice. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::Aww, I like Decemberween Mackerel! I don't think SC's any more out of character than we would expect for someone feeling the effects of hypothermia. Then again, I also like Death-Defying D'ween. I could go for either here. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:29, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Well, for example, SC doesn't call people by female names, instead calling them things like "pez dispenser". His words that are almost "one word and not quite another" are not in his usual style. Heck, IMO, if you give him homsar's accent and wail, the lines fit a lot better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:34, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::::I'd prefer Death-Defying D'ween over Mackarel only because we end with a Homsar cliffhanger that scares me in Mackarel. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:32, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Firebert]]===
It's been a while since we've featured something Cheat Commandos-related. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:I do support this, but could we save him for the final week of 2012 since 20X6 and Trogdor would get the two weeks afterwards? — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:30, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::What does Firebert have to do with 20X6 and Trogdor here? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::They all have debuts that happened in January. Though if we're looking at this from a Cheat Commandos perspective, Firebert officially didn't appear with the Cheat Commandos until May 2004... — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:26, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Plus, the last week of 2012 happens to be the week of Decemberween/Christmas. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012
:::::Hmm... I was hoping we could do something special for Firebert, but I guess since 20X6 and Trogdor always have priority at the start of January, then I'm fine with Firebert being featured at any time. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC) (UTC)

===[[Jibblies]]===
An important running gag. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:"Important"? To quote a very wise man, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Horrible Painting]]===
An important pseudo-character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Good suggestion and I support it, but could we save this guy for the week before Halloween week next year? — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I also agree with saving this for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::But once again, what about giving a fair chance to suggestions that I or anyone else may have in mind for that week? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
::::That aside, I'm not sure I think it's that great an idea to save Horrible Painting for then. It's not all that Halloweeny an item/pseudocharacter. It was the subject of Jibblies 2, it's true, but that's only one appearance out of quite a few. Next Halloween is also a long, long time away, and I'd like to hope we might have finally gotten around to replacing FAS by then (I know, I'm probably hoping too much). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:44, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::It was very significantly used as a halloween item though, and is extremely halloweeny, which is probably why TBC retconned it into being a halloween item. The better point you raise is how far away it is and the somewhat likely possibility that the system will be gone by then. For that reason, I guess it makes sense to feature whenever, as I do rather like the horrible painting and would hate to see it go unfeatured after being suggested. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:06, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::If FAS gets the announcement that it'll end soon, then I do want the Horrible Painting to get it's feature before FAS closes. Otherwise I'd rather see this next year to kick-off the week before Halloween week even if Halloween week itself has a reran FA. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I also think it's better to save it for Halloween if at all possible. -[[Special:Contributions/174.63.109.210|174.63.109.210]] 01:05, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Poker Night at the Inventory]]===
Well, it's a crossover, it was made by the creators of SBCG4AP, and it was released during the hiatus. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:But the game isn't Homestar Runner related. The most you'd get out of a FA writeup is "This is a crossover. The rest of the writeup is just a H*R trivia list!" I don't support it. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Completely untrue. Just look at the intro of the article. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:::: The intro paraphrased: "This is a crossover." Nothing H*R specific here outside of trivia. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Trogday (Jan 7-13)===
Either [[8-Bit is Enough]] or [[Wormdingler]], the latter of which I suggested for the week of Trogday of this year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:Somebody was hoping we could have Wormdingler featured to celebrate Troggie's 10th anniversary, but I'm fine with 8-Bit is Enough to celebrate Troggie's 10th too. I support both, but I'll also support whatever wiki consensus specifically decides. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

== Discussions of Articles Needing Expansion ==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, per consensus, require further expansion of the article itself before the article should be featured.''

==Stalled Discussions==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, due to lack of consensus or consensus against, are not ready to be featured at this time. ''

===[[Carol]]===
An important item/pseudocharacter. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:Could be cute. I'd have to see a good writeup before i'm convinced. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Carol|Here's]] a good write-up. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure i'd call it a "good" writeup... Seems rather disjointed to me. Comes off sounding like "In this toon, this happened. In this totally unrelated instance, this happened. In this third place, something else entirely." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:11, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::::I tried to rewrite the draft. I don't know if this works, but I do hope it'll help get this to a more wanted final version. I'd like to see a final version of this before I'll offer my support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 00:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::I fixed one point to make it more accurate, but it still strikes me as lacking. Is there any way we could spruce it up a bit more? I can't quite put my finger on what i think is missing, which is a shame. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::I don't know what it is that you think is missing, either. But I have somewhat improved the draft. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 15:49, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]===
I know [the week before 'Ween] is reserved for [[Bad Graphics Ghost]], but I'd like to go ahead and propose the article that I had in mind for that week: [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:We already achieved consensus for something else, and I don't see any reason to change just to accommodate one user's plans to the contrary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::I wholeheartedly agree! Routinely using subterfuge to undermine the FA process is underhanded and borders on the conniving. The FA proccess is a team effort and not a one-man show. Ricktommy, you knew the group made a decision and arrived at consensus yet you unilateraly decide that your way is better and somehow try to find a way to prod or manipulate your way into having everyone else follow your whim. This isn't how consensus works and you've routinely have had issues where you poke, prod and complain your way through the system just so what you want is featured. If not then you make suggestions weeks, if not months in advance long before anyone else even gets a chance to even consider thinking about possibly suggesting a feature somewhere, somehow. In the end your features end up dominating the system if we don't keep you in check. This has the negative effect of turning potential contributors away from FA. I ask that you show more courtesy for fellow editors and respect for the HRWiki community in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Also MAM 7 is rather weak and uninteresting. It wouldn't make a good feature in my opinion. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Well, can we feature it the week after Ween instead? And Ngamer, I completely disagree. I'll draft a write-up soon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::We generally do two features for Halloween, and I don't see why that should be changed this year just to accommodate one user's desires. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well, let me just say that it was that same user who suggested Bad Graphics Ghost in the first place. If he - that is to say, I - hadn't suggested BGG, would it still have been put in the queue for the week before 'Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I don't see how that matters. The source of the suggestion is irrelevant here; only what the community decides to do with those suggestions matters. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I also agree. I see no reason to change our methods here. Typical functioning in the world is that leading up to a holiday, as well as the holiday itself, is the holiday season. Once the holiday is over, no one cares about the holiday anymore until next year, and have already moved on to the next holiday. I mean, on November 5th, will you still be adding more skeletons, jack-o-lanterns, and witches brüe to your house decorations, or will you begin taking them down and replacing them with turkeys, pilgrim hats, and those fruit-filled horn thingies? If the former, I will gladly send you a calendar, because it seems you are in dire need of one. If the latter, then consider the fact that what you are suggesting is the wiki equivalent of putting up your spooky decorations almost a week after halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:14, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

==General discussion==

===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

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[[Category:Featured article maintenance|Selection]]

User talk:Bubsty

Heimstern Läufer — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 00:57:50 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /**/Yo

{{User talk:Bubsty/archive}}

== Sig ==

Decemberween has been, um, it happened last year, so you might wanna update that Sig. - {{user:Derrickee3/sig}} 22:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah... sorry about that, I got SimCity4 for Christmas and hadn't glanced at the wiki in a month... all better now. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:53, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
::Whoa dood! You're <strike>alive</strike> around! I thought you were one of the gone many who don't come back. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh, I'm still on, I read the wiki often, just rarely log in and edit. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 17:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Change your userpage back to normal. See ya around son. {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}
:::::Ah! I see. I've been on hiatus myself, checking it out on and off, but that's for both editing and reading. I've a backlog of toons and [[retirement|emails]] I ''still'' have to watch. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:24, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

== After a hefty hiatus... ==

I, {{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}, RETURN to the electronically communicating world of '''2007!''' '''Stop'''

My blasted '''Telly 400''' was swiped from the very comfort of my domecile, and upon it's return.. '''Stop'''

I was shocked to realize that the bloody roustabanks had cut off her '''little toe'''!!! '''Stop'''

What was one to do without the comma key!? '''Stop'''

I had no choice but to begin a quest... or.. send The Sneak.. on a worldwide search for my beloved Telly's little toe! '''Stop'''

To my great delight, it was returned and I can once again begin heckling the inhabitants of the '''post-modern Free Country USA!!''' '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

==AGHHHHHHHHHHH==
Bubsty, you might not wanna go onto that "steal your soul" site again. I went there and, I gotta say, my Mcaffee security guard detected more than 20 virus on that page. The same goes for anyone else goin to that link, IT IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, I REPEAT: IT IS EXTEMELY DANGEROUS!!! --[[User:Homsar Lover|Homsar Lover]]

I know that happened to me too. Also my McAfee SiteAdvisor turned red, with means bad.--[[User:Ava|Ava]] 15:07, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

==Edits to your user page==

Hi, Bubsty. An edit was recently made to your user page by an unknown IP address. According to wiki [[HRWiki:User space#Ownership and editing of pages in the user space|policy]], this edit was reverted. If you made this edit while not logged in, you can replace the changes you made by logging in, going to this version of your page ([http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Bubsty&oldid=493604]), clicking "edit", and saving the page. If this edit was not made by you, no action on your part is necessary. Thank you very much. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:10, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
==hi!==
I was just wondering how to make words move. Do you now how? Don't say jorb 101
P.S. how do you do that fancy thing with your name?

== Thank You Award ==

Hey there, Bubsty. I thought I'd drop by to let you know that the [[HRWiki:Barnstars]] page is going to be cleaned, and your Thank You award may be removed from the page. (The image will not be deleted.) If you want to keep the award there, please say so before the revision, or add it again afterward. Thanks, — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

== Hey ==

Hey, do you still come to this wiki? just wondering. {{User:The thing/sig}} 15:00, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:Occasionally. Mostly to read, rarely to write. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 07:00, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

== New signature? ==

It looks pretty! But why'd you randomly decide to change? {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 03:39, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
:Eh, it was pretty much a cookie-cutter sig from all the ones that [[User:Bkmlb|Bkmlb]] made. Basically I just sort of decided I was sick of having a sig that looked straight out of '05, and decided to remodel. This one looks cleaner and simple, although I did keep the classic "blue and gold" :) {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:42, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
::Besides the signature, what else is new? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:44, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Hi there Stux, long time no talk! Erm, not much really... just trudging along my academic path and all that jazz. How've you been? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:49, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah I know how that goes. Though for the time being the academic life is behind me and now I've had to navigate that hazardous ocean called real life. So that's been keeping me busy until recently, which is why my edit count's shot up. ;) Like I've {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3APertmywert&diff=643045&oldid=638871 mentioned already}} it's good to see editors of old come back; even if it may be only sporadically. Good to see you back! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:26, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
::Well, your plan to be unique and original put a bit of a stnank in my April Fools' plan. Way to go. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:46, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Looks like ''somebody'' should have warned me beforehand, eh? (By the way, you were already usurped; [[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] did the whole sig-switcharoo a few years back.) {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:59, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

== Cool people ==

I'm cooler than a sysop!

== Hey ==

Remember me? {{User:The thing/sig}} 01:19, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

== Yo ==

Long time no see, man! Seeing you edit again brings back really, really old memories on the wiki. Hope you're doing well these days! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:57, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

Heimstern Läufer — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 10:26:31 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2 */ support, obviously

{{shortcut|FAS||[[FAS]]}}
Welcome to '''[[HRWiki:Featured articles|featured article]] selection'''. Please help us choose and create write-ups for our best, most interesting, or otherwise noteworthy articles to appear on the [[main page]]. For ideas, check out the [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations|featured article nominations]]. For drafts, see [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts|this page]].

==Checklist==
{{talkchecklist|Checklist for new Featured Article:|noeditsection=true}}
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
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==Discussion archives==
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{| {{standardtable}}
! Year !! Weeks 1-10 !! Weeks 11-20 !! Weeks 21-30 !! Weeks 31-40 !! Weeks 41-52
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| 2005
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 26-29|2005, Weeks 26-29]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 30-39|2005, Weeks 30-39]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 40-49|2005, Weeks 40-52]]
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| 2006
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 1-10 |2006, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 11-20|2006, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 21-30|2006, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 31-40|2006, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 41-52|2006, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2007
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 1-10 |2007, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 11-20|2007, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 21-30|2007, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 31-40|2007, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 41-52|2007, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2008
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 1-10 |2008, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 11-20|2008, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 21-30|2008, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 31-40|2008, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 41-52|2008, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2009
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 1-10 |2009, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 11-20|2009, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 21-30|2009, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 31-40|2009, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 41-53|2009, Weeks 41-53]]
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| 2010
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 1-10 |2010, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 11-20|2010, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 21-30|2010, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 31-40|2010, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 41-52|2010, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2011
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 1-10 |2011, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 11-20|2011, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 21-30|2011, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 31-40|2011, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 41-52|2011, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2012
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 1-10 |2012, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 11-20|2012, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 21-30|2012, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 31-40|2012, Weeks 31-40]]
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[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/General Discussion|Other Discussion]] |
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Stalled Discussions Archive 1|Stalled Discussions Archive 1]] |
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Stalled Discussions Archive 2|Stalled Discussions Archive 2]]
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==Featured Article Queue==
{| {{standardtable}}
! Week !! Article !! Discussion
{{FA queue| 8 Oct 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Kid Speedy}}
{{FA queue|15 Oct 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Pants}}
{{FA queue|22 Oct 2012 |Bad Graphics Ghost}}
{{FA queue|29 Oct 2012 |Halloween Fairstival}}
{{FA queue| 5 Nov 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Matt Chapman}}
{{FA queue|12 Nov 2012 |Strong Sad's iPod}}
|}

===Redirects===
This is a placeholder topic for 5-year redirects. Due to overall decreased activity, FAs are now being reused more often. The common practice has become to redirect to the FA exactly 5 years prior to the current FA. When an article is re-used, mark it in the following manner:
<pre>
{{FA queue|<date>|Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=<article name>}}
</pre>
Example:
<pre>
{{FA queue|15 Aug 2011 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=1-Up}}
</pre>

Please keep this discussion in the FA page at all times, but do copy it to archive pages as well.

=== [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] ===

''{{done}} {{FA|22 Oct 2012}}''

Surprised it was never featured; also, it was once accidentally bolded on the nominations page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
:This will be nice to feature next year for Halloween. Second'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
::I think we should hold this one off until Halloween next year as well. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 18:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I approve of a Hallow's Eve '12 feature. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 23:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
::::I'm guessing you guys mean the week ''before'' Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, week before. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 13:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::I made a [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|draft]] of a Bad Graphics Ghost FA. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
While I understand that you guys want to feature this for the week before 'Ween, I intended this one as a feature for any time. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 20:16, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Then you're going to be annoyed at Halloween FA reruns if we do this ASAP. At least by waiting, you'll get one new Halloween FA this year that is if FAS isn't put on hiatus by that time. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::I also think this will make a fine feature for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:29, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
:::You know what, I've changed my mind. I don't think this should be featured at all if it's going to conflict with the suggestions that I have in mind for Ween. And like I said, I intended this one to be featured any time. Also, the week of Ween is specifically for the big toons. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:15, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
::::RickTommy, you're not approaching this the right way. You're talking about it conflicting with "the suggestions that '''I''' have in mind for Ween" and how "'''I''' intended this one to be featured at any time" (emphasis mine). What you think is scarcely the point. It's what the community thinks that matters, and they clearly think this article should be featured the week before Halloween. If it's against your plans, I'm sorry, that's rough. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::Actually Soiled Bargains, Defender, and I wanted this for Halloween week. Rick was the one that stated that everyone wanted it before Halloween when actually only Power Pie wanted it for before Halloween. So technically this doesn't have consensus. I'll move this out of the queue. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::Could we please have clarification on this? I assumed when people said "Halloween" they meant "the Halloween season", not specifically that week. Since we do indeed nearly always feature a full-length toon on Halloween itself, and I don't really see why it would be different this year. Are people fine with making this the week before Halloween? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm cool with this being the week before, though I see no reason for it not to be the week of, especially in a Hiatus where there is not an unlimited supply of big halloween toons. Also, Ngamer, there IS consensus to feature, we even have consensus as to roughly when to feature, just not clear on which of the two proposed weeks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:You're right that there's not an unlimited supply of big toons, but there ''are'' some left that haven't been featured, and I think at least one is highly deserving of being featured. In fact, from what I can see, we still have three more years before we'd run out. And there is tradition: while I know that "we've always done it" isn't in and of itself a valid reason, all other things being equal, there's a lot to be said for sticking to tradition. And I for one am in favour of keeping our big toon tradition. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::Fair enough. Let's stick with the week before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::I guess I hadn't explained well my reasons from earlier. I mean I know there is consensus for this to be featured, but there was no consensus on when to feature and without that, this had to be moved out of the queue until consensus on when to feature was reached...which is now. I guess if Halloween FA week is for big Halloween toons only, I guess I'm fine with Bad Graphics Ghost being a lead-in to the actual Halloween FA week. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 19:11, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::I know this is a done deal but I also wanted to give my support for the week before halloween (week 43 as stated). Even if we run out of big toons to feature I think we can rerun old big toons in the coming years. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===

''{{done}} {{FA|29 Oct 2012}}''

[[Halloween Fairstival]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:Sure why not. Support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::Since this'll be October 29... how about [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]? It'll be ten years old to the day (Oct 29/02 - Oct 29/12) ...just another idea. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 17:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
:::First of all, [[weclome]] back, Bupkis. Where have you been for the past year and a half? Second of all, Carve-nival has already been featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay. Also, I haven't been very active here lately, with the hiatus and what not... I guess when sbemail206 rolls around things will pick up :p {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 22:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::So, you support Fairstival, right? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, we could do that. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 23:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I had attempted to expand Rick's stub after moving it [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Halloween Fairstival|here]]. As soon as the writeup is reviewed and fixed, the redirect I did for Week 44 can be reverted for the finished writeup. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:39, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Strong Sad's iPod]]===

''{{todo}} {{FA|12 Nov 2012}}''

I'm feeling a little random and want to feel less hypocritical, so I'd like to throw this out as an suggestion. SS's iPods were seen on [[Podstar Runner 2006]] and it's last incarnation [[Podstar Runner]], so the iPod was important in the past. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
:Support, I guess. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::I've got [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Strong Sad's iPod|a draft]] up for review and fixing if it'll help any. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::I think it needs to be reworded to make it clear that strong sad has had many ipods over the years, rather than talking about "strong sad's ipod" as a singular item. I like the idea of this as a feature, the writeup just needs significant improvement before i put in my complete support. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:32, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've improved it as best I can. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:37, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::After seeing the improvements, I support. (That Other Anonny Guy) [[Special:Contributions/121.219.232.190|121.219.232.190]] 11:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::The draft now strikes me as being disjointed and the same kind of laundry list as some of the other drafts i've made similar comments about. I'd like to see a draft that's both cohesive and comprehensive. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:51, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I think my recent changes to the draft have brought it together in a way with which i'm satisfied. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:04, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[2-Part Episode: Part 1]]===

''{{todo}} {{FA|26 Nov 2012}}''

I'm wondering how we'd feature these. Should we feature them simultaneously, back-to-back, or with Part 1 getting half a week and Part 2 getting the other half? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Back-to-back weeks would be best since each episode has enough material to make 'em stand for their own week. I don't see a need to feature both in one week. Support'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[2-Part Episode: Part 2]]===

''{{todo}} {{FA|3 Dec 2012}}''

I'm wondering how we'd feature these. Should we feature them simultaneously, back-to-back, or with Part 1 getting half a week and Part 2 getting the other half? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Back-to-back weeks would be best since each episode has enough material to make 'em stand for their own week. I don't see a need to feature both in one week. Support'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Decemberween in July]] Dailies===

''{{todo}} {{FA|17 Dec 2012}}''

[[Homestar and the Nice Present]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I propose a bit of a bolder move, and do a set of dailies from [[Decemberween In July]]. Most of them have already been featured on their own, but it'd be nice to see these featured all together. It'd include the above suggestion as well as a couple of other toons that haven't been featured yet. Here's the order i'd propose, with a star next to those that have been featured already (we can reuse the writeups for those):
:*Day 1 — [[Decemberween In July]] (To introduce the week)
:*Day 2 — [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 6]]*
:*Day 3 — [[That Time of Year]]*
:*Day 4 — [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]*
:*Day 5 — [[Homestar and the Nice Present]]
:*Day 6 — [[Seasonal Sweaters]]
:*Day 7 — [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]*
:{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::That set of dailies sounds like a fun idea! I support it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Holiday dailies of old and new sound good to me. Support'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::::As much as I dislike redirects, it's almost worth doing them if they're part of a daily, given how uncommon dailies are. So I support this daily too. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

==Article discussions==
===Week of Thanksgiving (Nov 19-25)===
[[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-Cards]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I never liked that one. Personally, I'd suggest re-featuring [[Let us give TANKS!]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::Didn't even realize that TANKS would have been the default rerun for this anyway. Also, to be clear, when I say re-feature, I don't necessarily mean using the same writeup, since it might be nice to expand it now that we're far less worried about giving spoilers. The old one also seems a bit dry as compared to the writeups we tend to do nowadays. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:41, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
:::Less concerned about spoilers how? What exactly do you think should be added to the old writeup? I certainly don't think the ending with the nuclear device should be revealed on the main page; I think the ending gag definitely needs to remain a surprise. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
::::What I meant by less concerned about spoilers was... not important. I think I was thinking of something else which in my fully awake state doesn't make nearly as much sense as it did last night when I wrote that. Anyway, I'd expand the writeup somewhat to be a little less dry and more fun, and have a few more details. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::A re-run just because someone doesn't like the original suggestion? I think not. I'll also propose [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:14, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::Let me be a bit more clear then. E-cards and MAM9 are not big thanksgiving toons, and they're both kinda meh. In addition, reruns when there's no consensus for an original suggestion is EXACTLY how the system works, and let me remind you again that you seem to be the only person who has any sort of problem with that. If we don't get consensus it'll end up being tanks anyway. I'm just attempting to head that off and propose we at least feature tanks with a newly created writeup, rather than reusing the old one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 08:56, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I agree with Deffy on nearly all points, particularly that E-cards is kind of meh and that redirects are a fine solution that no one hates but you. As for MAM 9, I don't think it's meh at all, I think it's really, really funny. But it's ''not'' a Thanksgiving toon. It contains a Thanksgiving afterthought. In fact, I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to feature it right after Thanksgiving, since that's when it was released and when it's set, apparently. It would fit well with what's on readers' minds. But putting a toon about "Is it next Thanksgiving yet?" during the week of Thanksgiving does not fit well at all. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:17, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]]===
Like Heimstern said, it's really really funny, and makes sense to be featured right after thanksgiving, so i'd like to see it featured for the following week, Nov 26 - Dec 2. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:23, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
:Agree per already stated reasoning. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:26, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Snowglobe]]===
Since we had a re-run for the week before D'ween last year, I think that we should make up for it by doing three D'ween articles this year. For this week, [[Snowglobe]], the article that was suggested for the week before D'ween last year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I see no reason to do three this year just because one was a rerun last year. I also am not sure there's enough to say about snowglobe to feature. It's pretty much just a dumb snowglobe with a timer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with DeFender on both points. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::I also agree. Snowglobe just doesn't offer enough for a quality writeup now that I take a second look at it. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::::I also agree that Snowglobe isn't worth featuring. (That Other Anonny Guy) [[Special:Contributions/121.219.232.190|121.219.232.190]] 11:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 24-30)===
[[A Decemberween Mackerel]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:Nah, i kinda hate mackarel. Senor Cardgage isn't at all his usual self, and the whole toon just makes me feel like TBC had waited so long to make one that they forgot how to actually create a homestar toon. Kinda like star wars episode 1. [[A Death-Defying Decemberween]] is a much better choice. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::Aww, I like Decemberween Mackerel! I don't think SC's any more out of character than we would expect for someone feeling the effects of hypothermia. Then again, I also like Death-Defying D'ween. I could go for either here. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:29, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Well, for example, SC doesn't call people by female names, instead calling them things like "pez dispenser". His words that are almost "one word and not quite another" are not in his usual style. Heck, IMO, if you give him homsar's accent and wail, the lines fit a lot better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:34, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::::I'd prefer Death-Defying D'ween over Mackarel only because we end with a Homsar cliffhanger that scares me in Mackarel. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:32, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Firebert]]===
It's been a while since we've featured something Cheat Commandos-related. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:I do support this, but could we save him for the final week of 2012 since 20X6 and Trogdor would get the two weeks afterwards? — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:30, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::What does Firebert have to do with 20X6 and Trogdor here? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::They all have debuts that happened in January. Though if we're looking at this from a Cheat Commandos perspective, Firebert officially didn't appear with the Cheat Commandos until May 2004... — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:26, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Plus, the last week of 2012 happens to be the week of Decemberween/Christmas. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012
:::::Hmm... I was hoping we could do something special for Firebert, but I guess since 20X6 and Trogdor always have priority at the start of January, then I'm fine with Firebert being featured at any time. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC) (UTC)

===[[Jibblies]]===
An important running gag. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:"Important"? To quote a very wise man, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Horrible Painting]]===
An important pseudo-character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Good suggestion and I support it, but could we save this guy for the week before Halloween week next year? — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I also agree with saving this for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::But once again, what about giving a fair chance to suggestions that I or anyone else may have in mind for that week? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
::::That aside, I'm not sure I think it's that great an idea to save Horrible Painting for then. It's not all that Halloweeny an item/pseudocharacter. It was the subject of Jibblies 2, it's true, but that's only one appearance out of quite a few. Next Halloween is also a long, long time away, and I'd like to hope we might have finally gotten around to replacing FAS by then (I know, I'm probably hoping too much). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:44, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::It was very significantly used as a halloween item though, and is extremely halloweeny, which is probably why TBC retconned it into being a halloween item. The better point you raise is how far away it is and the somewhat likely possibility that the system will be gone by then. For that reason, I guess it makes sense to feature whenever, as I do rather like the horrible painting and would hate to see it go unfeatured after being suggested. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:06, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::If FAS gets the announcement that it'll end soon, then I do want the Horrible Painting to get it's feature before FAS closes. Otherwise I'd rather see this next year to kick-off the week before Halloween week even if Halloween week itself has a reran FA. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I also think it's better to save it for Halloween if at all possible. -[[Special:Contributions/174.63.109.210|174.63.109.210]] 01:05, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Poker Night at the Inventory]]===
Well, it's a crossover, it was made by the creators of SBCG4AP, and it was released during the hiatus. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:But the game isn't Homestar Runner related. The most you'd get out of a FA writeup is "This is a crossover. The rest of the writeup is just a H*R trivia list!" I don't support it. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Completely untrue. Just look at the intro of the article. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:::: The intro paraphrased: "This is a crossover." Nothing H*R specific here outside of trivia. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

===20X6 week (Dec 31-Jan 6)===
Either [[Stinkoman 20X6]] or [[Make-O Your Own Stinko]]. In the case of Stinkoman 20X6, I know it's been suggested several times that we wait until it's finished before we feature it, but at the rate H*R is going, it probably won't be finished. As for Make-O Your Own Stinko, it's the very first article for which I have drafted a write-up, which you can see [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Make-O Your Own Stinko|here]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:For many years, I was opposed to featuring Stinkoman 20X6 before its completion, but now that it seems about as likely to be finished as Schubert's 8th Symphony is, I am no longer opposed. Indeed, given its importance, I would consider it a good choice for featuring. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:46, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
::Yeah let's go with Stinkoman 20X6. This may be it's last chance at a feature especially if FAS closes at some point later. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Trogday (Jan 7-13)===
Either [[8-Bit is Enough]] or [[Wormdingler]], the latter of which I suggested for the week of Trogday of this year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:Somebody was hoping we could have Wormdingler featured to celebrate Troggie's 10th anniversary, but I'm fine with 8-Bit is Enough to celebrate Troggie's 10th too. I support both, but I'll also support whatever wiki consensus specifically decides. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

== Discussions of Articles Needing Expansion ==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, per consensus, require further expansion of the article itself before the article should be featured.''

==Stalled Discussions==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, due to lack of consensus or consensus against, are not ready to be featured at this time. ''

===[[Carol]]===
An important item/pseudocharacter. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:Could be cute. I'd have to see a good writeup before i'm convinced. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Carol|Here's]] a good write-up. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure i'd call it a "good" writeup... Seems rather disjointed to me. Comes off sounding like "In this toon, this happened. In this totally unrelated instance, this happened. In this third place, something else entirely." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:11, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::::I tried to rewrite the draft. I don't know if this works, but I do hope it'll help get this to a more wanted final version. I'd like to see a final version of this before I'll offer my support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 00:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::I fixed one point to make it more accurate, but it still strikes me as lacking. Is there any way we could spruce it up a bit more? I can't quite put my finger on what i think is missing, which is a shame. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::I don't know what it is that you think is missing, either. But I have somewhat improved the draft. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 15:49, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]===
I know [the week before 'Ween] is reserved for [[Bad Graphics Ghost]], but I'd like to go ahead and propose the article that I had in mind for that week: [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:We already achieved consensus for something else, and I don't see any reason to change just to accommodate one user's plans to the contrary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::I wholeheartedly agree! Routinely using subterfuge to undermine the FA process is underhanded and borders on the conniving. The FA proccess is a team effort and not a one-man show. Ricktommy, you knew the group made a decision and arrived at consensus yet you unilateraly decide that your way is better and somehow try to find a way to prod or manipulate your way into having everyone else follow your whim. This isn't how consensus works and you've routinely have had issues where you poke, prod and complain your way through the system just so what you want is featured. If not then you make suggestions weeks, if not months in advance long before anyone else even gets a chance to even consider thinking about possibly suggesting a feature somewhere, somehow. In the end your features end up dominating the system if we don't keep you in check. This has the negative effect of turning potential contributors away from FA. I ask that you show more courtesy for fellow editors and respect for the HRWiki community in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Also MAM 7 is rather weak and uninteresting. It wouldn't make a good feature in my opinion. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Well, can we feature it the week after Ween instead? And Ngamer, I completely disagree. I'll draft a write-up soon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::We generally do two features for Halloween, and I don't see why that should be changed this year just to accommodate one user's desires. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well, let me just say that it was that same user who suggested Bad Graphics Ghost in the first place. If he - that is to say, I - hadn't suggested BGG, would it still have been put in the queue for the week before 'Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I don't see how that matters. The source of the suggestion is irrelevant here; only what the community decides to do with those suggestions matters. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I also agree. I see no reason to change our methods here. Typical functioning in the world is that leading up to a holiday, as well as the holiday itself, is the holiday season. Once the holiday is over, no one cares about the holiday anymore until next year, and have already moved on to the next holiday. I mean, on November 5th, will you still be adding more skeletons, jack-o-lanterns, and witches brüe to your house decorations, or will you begin taking them down and replacing them with turkeys, pilgrim hats, and those fruit-filled horn thingies? If the former, I will gladly send you a calendar, because it seems you are in dire need of one. If the latter, then consider the fact that what you are suggesting is the wiki equivalent of putting up your spooky decorations almost a week after halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:14, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

==General discussion==

===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

[[Category:Featured article maintenance|Selection]]

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

Heimstern Läufer — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 10:17:58 GMT

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Welcome to '''[[HRWiki:Featured articles|featured article]] selection'''. Please help us choose and create write-ups for our best, most interesting, or otherwise noteworthy articles to appear on the [[main page]]. For ideas, check out the [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations|featured article nominations]]. For drafts, see [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts|this page]].

==Checklist==
{{talkchecklist|Checklist for new Featured Article:|noeditsection=true}}
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
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==Discussion archives==
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{| {{standardtable}}
! Year !! Weeks 1-10 !! Weeks 11-20 !! Weeks 21-30 !! Weeks 31-40 !! Weeks 41-52
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| 2005
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 26-29|2005, Weeks 26-29]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 30-39|2005, Weeks 30-39]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 40-49|2005, Weeks 40-52]]
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| 2006
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 1-10 |2006, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 11-20|2006, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 21-30|2006, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 31-40|2006, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 41-52|2006, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2007
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 1-10 |2007, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 11-20|2007, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 21-30|2007, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 31-40|2007, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 41-52|2007, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2008
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 1-10 |2008, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 11-20|2008, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 21-30|2008, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 31-40|2008, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 41-52|2008, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2009
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 1-10 |2009, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 11-20|2009, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 21-30|2009, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 31-40|2009, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 41-53|2009, Weeks 41-53]]
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| 2010
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 1-10 |2010, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 11-20|2010, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 21-30|2010, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 31-40|2010, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 41-52|2010, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2011
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 1-10 |2011, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 11-20|2011, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 21-30|2011, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 31-40|2011, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 41-52|2011, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2012
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 1-10 |2012, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 11-20|2012, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 21-30|2012, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 31-40|2012, Weeks 31-40]]
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[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/General Discussion|Other Discussion]] |
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Stalled Discussions Archive 1|Stalled Discussions Archive 1]] |
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Stalled Discussions Archive 2|Stalled Discussions Archive 2]]
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==Featured Article Queue==
{| {{standardtable}}
! Week !! Article !! Discussion
{{FA queue| 8 Oct 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Kid Speedy}}
{{FA queue|15 Oct 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Pants}}
{{FA queue|22 Oct 2012 |Bad Graphics Ghost}}
{{FA queue|29 Oct 2012 |Halloween Fairstival}}
{{FA queue| 5 Nov 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Matt Chapman}}
{{FA queue|12 Nov 2012 |Strong Sad's iPod}}
|}

===Redirects===
This is a placeholder topic for 5-year redirects. Due to overall decreased activity, FAs are now being reused more often. The common practice has become to redirect to the FA exactly 5 years prior to the current FA. When an article is re-used, mark it in the following manner:
<pre>
{{FA queue|<date>|Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=<article name>}}
</pre>
Example:
<pre>
{{FA queue|15 Aug 2011 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=1-Up}}
</pre>

Please keep this discussion in the FA page at all times, but do copy it to archive pages as well.

=== [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] ===

''{{done}} {{FA|22 Oct 2012}}''

Surprised it was never featured; also, it was once accidentally bolded on the nominations page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
:This will be nice to feature next year for Halloween. Second'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
::I think we should hold this one off until Halloween next year as well. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 18:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I approve of a Hallow's Eve '12 feature. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 23:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
::::I'm guessing you guys mean the week ''before'' Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, week before. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 13:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::I made a [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|draft]] of a Bad Graphics Ghost FA. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
While I understand that you guys want to feature this for the week before 'Ween, I intended this one as a feature for any time. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 20:16, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Then you're going to be annoyed at Halloween FA reruns if we do this ASAP. At least by waiting, you'll get one new Halloween FA this year that is if FAS isn't put on hiatus by that time. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::I also think this will make a fine feature for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:29, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
:::You know what, I've changed my mind. I don't think this should be featured at all if it's going to conflict with the suggestions that I have in mind for Ween. And like I said, I intended this one to be featured any time. Also, the week of Ween is specifically for the big toons. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:15, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
::::RickTommy, you're not approaching this the right way. You're talking about it conflicting with "the suggestions that '''I''' have in mind for Ween" and how "'''I''' intended this one to be featured at any time" (emphasis mine). What you think is scarcely the point. It's what the community thinks that matters, and they clearly think this article should be featured the week before Halloween. If it's against your plans, I'm sorry, that's rough. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::Actually Soiled Bargains, Defender, and I wanted this for Halloween week. Rick was the one that stated that everyone wanted it before Halloween when actually only Power Pie wanted it for before Halloween. So technically this doesn't have consensus. I'll move this out of the queue. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::Could we please have clarification on this? I assumed when people said "Halloween" they meant "the Halloween season", not specifically that week. Since we do indeed nearly always feature a full-length toon on Halloween itself, and I don't really see why it would be different this year. Are people fine with making this the week before Halloween? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm cool with this being the week before, though I see no reason for it not to be the week of, especially in a Hiatus where there is not an unlimited supply of big halloween toons. Also, Ngamer, there IS consensus to feature, we even have consensus as to roughly when to feature, just not clear on which of the two proposed weeks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:You're right that there's not an unlimited supply of big toons, but there ''are'' some left that haven't been featured, and I think at least one is highly deserving of being featured. In fact, from what I can see, we still have three more years before we'd run out. And there is tradition: while I know that "we've always done it" isn't in and of itself a valid reason, all other things being equal, there's a lot to be said for sticking to tradition. And I for one am in favour of keeping our big toon tradition. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::Fair enough. Let's stick with the week before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::I guess I hadn't explained well my reasons from earlier. I mean I know there is consensus for this to be featured, but there was no consensus on when to feature and without that, this had to be moved out of the queue until consensus on when to feature was reached...which is now. I guess if Halloween FA week is for big Halloween toons only, I guess I'm fine with Bad Graphics Ghost being a lead-in to the actual Halloween FA week. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 19:11, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::I know this is a done deal but I also wanted to give my support for the week before halloween (week 43 as stated). Even if we run out of big toons to feature I think we can rerun old big toons in the coming years. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===

''{{done}} {{FA|29 Oct 2012}}''

[[Halloween Fairstival]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:Sure why not. Support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::Since this'll be October 29... how about [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]? It'll be ten years old to the day (Oct 29/02 - Oct 29/12) ...just another idea. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 17:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
:::First of all, [[weclome]] back, Bupkis. Where have you been for the past year and a half? Second of all, Carve-nival has already been featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay. Also, I haven't been very active here lately, with the hiatus and what not... I guess when sbemail206 rolls around things will pick up :p {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 22:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::So, you support Fairstival, right? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, we could do that. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 23:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I had attempted to expand Rick's stub after moving it [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Halloween Fairstival|here]]. As soon as the writeup is reviewed and fixed, the redirect I did for Week 44 can be reverted for the finished writeup. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:39, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Strong Sad's iPod]]===

''{{todo}} {{FA|12 Nov 2012}}''

I'm feeling a little random and want to feel less hypocritical, so I'd like to throw this out as an suggestion. SS's iPods were seen on [[Podstar Runner 2006]] and it's last incarnation [[Podstar Runner]], so the iPod was important in the past. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
:Support, I guess. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::I've got [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Strong Sad's iPod|a draft]] up for review and fixing if it'll help any. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::I think it needs to be reworded to make it clear that strong sad has had many ipods over the years, rather than talking about "strong sad's ipod" as a singular item. I like the idea of this as a feature, the writeup just needs significant improvement before i put in my complete support. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:32, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've improved it as best I can. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:37, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::After seeing the improvements, I support. (That Other Anonny Guy) [[Special:Contributions/121.219.232.190|121.219.232.190]] 11:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::The draft now strikes me as being disjointed and the same kind of laundry list as some of the other drafts i've made similar comments about. I'd like to see a draft that's both cohesive and comprehensive. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:51, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I think my recent changes to the draft have brought it together in a way with which i'm satisfied. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:04, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[2-Part Episode: Part 1]]===

''{{todo}} {{FA|26 Nov 2012}}''

I'm wondering how we'd feature these. Should we feature them simultaneously, back-to-back, or with Part 1 getting half a week and Part 2 getting the other half? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Back-to-back weeks would be best since each episode has enough material to make 'em stand for their own week. I don't see a need to feature both in one week. Support'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[2-Part Episode: Part 2]]===

''{{todo}} {{FA|3 Dec 2012}}''

I'm wondering how we'd feature these. Should we feature them simultaneously, back-to-back, or with Part 1 getting half a week and Part 2 getting the other half? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Back-to-back weeks would be best since each episode has enough material to make 'em stand for their own week. I don't see a need to feature both in one week. Support'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Decemberween in July]] Dailies===

''{{todo}} {{FA|17 Dec 2012}}''

[[Homestar and the Nice Present]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I propose a bit of a bolder move, and do a set of dailies from [[Decemberween In July]]. Most of them have already been featured on their own, but it'd be nice to see these featured all together. It'd include the above suggestion as well as a couple of other toons that haven't been featured yet. Here's the order i'd propose, with a star next to those that have been featured already (we can reuse the writeups for those):
:*Day 1 — [[Decemberween In July]] (To introduce the week)
:*Day 2 — [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 6]]*
:*Day 3 — [[That Time of Year]]*
:*Day 4 — [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]*
:*Day 5 — [[Homestar and the Nice Present]]
:*Day 6 — [[Seasonal Sweaters]]
:*Day 7 — [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]*
:{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::That set of dailies sounds like a fun idea! I support it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Holiday dailies of old and new sound good to me. Support'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::::As much as I dislike redirects, it's almost worth doing them if they're part of a daily, given how uncommon dailies are. So I support this daily too. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

==Article discussions==
===Week of Thanksgiving (Nov 19-25)===
[[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-Cards]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I never liked that one. Personally, I'd suggest re-featuring [[Let us give TANKS!]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::Didn't even realize that TANKS would have been the default rerun for this anyway. Also, to be clear, when I say re-feature, I don't necessarily mean using the same writeup, since it might be nice to expand it now that we're far less worried about giving spoilers. The old one also seems a bit dry as compared to the writeups we tend to do nowadays. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:41, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
:::Less concerned about spoilers how? What exactly do you think should be added to the old writeup? I certainly don't think the ending with the nuclear device should be revealed on the main page; I think the ending gag definitely needs to remain a surprise. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
::::What I meant by less concerned about spoilers was... not important. I think I was thinking of something else which in my fully awake state doesn't make nearly as much sense as it did last night when I wrote that. Anyway, I'd expand the writeup somewhat to be a little less dry and more fun, and have a few more details. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::A re-run just because someone doesn't like the original suggestion? I think not. I'll also propose [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:14, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::Let me be a bit more clear then. E-cards and MAM9 are not big thanksgiving toons, and they're both kinda meh. In addition, reruns when there's no consensus for an original suggestion is EXACTLY how the system works, and let me remind you again that you seem to be the only person who has any sort of problem with that. If we don't get consensus it'll end up being tanks anyway. I'm just attempting to head that off and propose we at least feature tanks with a newly created writeup, rather than reusing the old one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 08:56, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I agree with Deffy on nearly all points, particularly that E-cards is kind of meh and that redirects are a fine solution that no one hates but you. As for MAM 9, I don't think it's meh at all, I think it's really, really funny. But it's ''not'' a Thanksgiving toon. It contains a Thanksgiving afterthought. In fact, I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to feature it right after Thanksgiving, since that's when it was released and when it's set, apparently. It would fit well with what's on readers' minds. But putting a toon about "Is it next Thanksgiving yet?" during the week of Thanksgiving does not fit well at all. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:17, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Snowglobe]]===
Since we had a re-run for the week before D'ween last year, I think that we should make up for it by doing three D'ween articles this year. For this week, [[Snowglobe]], the article that was suggested for the week before D'ween last year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I see no reason to do three this year just because one was a rerun last year. I also am not sure there's enough to say about snowglobe to feature. It's pretty much just a dumb snowglobe with a timer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with DeFender on both points. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::I also agree. Snowglobe just doesn't offer enough for a quality writeup now that I take a second look at it. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::::I also agree that Snowglobe isn't worth featuring. (That Other Anonny Guy) [[Special:Contributions/121.219.232.190|121.219.232.190]] 11:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 24-30)===
[[A Decemberween Mackerel]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:Nah, i kinda hate mackarel. Senor Cardgage isn't at all his usual self, and the whole toon just makes me feel like TBC had waited so long to make one that they forgot how to actually create a homestar toon. Kinda like star wars episode 1. [[A Death-Defying Decemberween]] is a much better choice. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::Aww, I like Decemberween Mackerel! I don't think SC's any more out of character than we would expect for someone feeling the effects of hypothermia. Then again, I also like Death-Defying D'ween. I could go for either here. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:29, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Well, for example, SC doesn't call people by female names, instead calling them things like "pez dispenser". His words that are almost "one word and not quite another" are not in his usual style. Heck, IMO, if you give him homsar's accent and wail, the lines fit a lot better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:34, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::::I'd prefer Death-Defying D'ween over Mackarel only because we end with a Homsar cliffhanger that scares me in Mackarel. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:32, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Firebert]]===
It's been a while since we've featured something Cheat Commandos-related. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:I do support this, but could we save him for the final week of 2012 since 20X6 and Trogdor would get the two weeks afterwards? — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:30, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::What does Firebert have to do with 20X6 and Trogdor here? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::They all have debuts that happened in January. Though if we're looking at this from a Cheat Commandos perspective, Firebert officially didn't appear with the Cheat Commandos until May 2004... — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:26, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Plus, the last week of 2012 happens to be the week of Decemberween/Christmas. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012
:::::Hmm... I was hoping we could do something special for Firebert, but I guess since 20X6 and Trogdor always have priority at the start of January, then I'm fine with Firebert being featured at any time. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC) (UTC)

===[[Jibblies]]===
An important running gag. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:"Important"? To quote a very wise man, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Horrible Painting]]===
An important pseudo-character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Good suggestion and I support it, but could we save this guy for the week before Halloween week next year? — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I also agree with saving this for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::But once again, what about giving a fair chance to suggestions that I or anyone else may have in mind for that week? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
::::That aside, I'm not sure I think it's that great an idea to save Horrible Painting for then. It's not all that Halloweeny an item/pseudocharacter. It was the subject of Jibblies 2, it's true, but that's only one appearance out of quite a few. Next Halloween is also a long, long time away, and I'd like to hope we might have finally gotten around to replacing FAS by then (I know, I'm probably hoping too much). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:44, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::It was very significantly used as a halloween item though, and is extremely halloweeny, which is probably why TBC retconned it into being a halloween item. The better point you raise is how far away it is and the somewhat likely possibility that the system will be gone by then. For that reason, I guess it makes sense to feature whenever, as I do rather like the horrible painting and would hate to see it go unfeatured after being suggested. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:06, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::If FAS gets the announcement that it'll end soon, then I do want the Horrible Painting to get it's feature before FAS closes. Otherwise I'd rather see this next year to kick-off the week before Halloween week even if Halloween week itself has a reran FA. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I also think it's better to save it for Halloween if at all possible. -[[Special:Contributions/174.63.109.210|174.63.109.210]] 01:05, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Poker Night at the Inventory]]===
Well, it's a crossover, it was made by the creators of SBCG4AP, and it was released during the hiatus. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:But the game isn't Homestar Runner related. The most you'd get out of a FA writeup is "This is a crossover. The rest of the writeup is just a H*R trivia list!" I don't support it. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Completely untrue. Just look at the intro of the article. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:::: The intro paraphrased: "This is a crossover." Nothing H*R specific here outside of trivia. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

===20X6 week (Dec 31-Jan 6)===
Either [[Stinkoman 20X6]] or [[Make-O Your Own Stinko]]. In the case of Stinkoman 20X6, I know it's been suggested several times that we wait until it's finished before we feature it, but at the rate H*R is going, it probably won't be finished. As for Make-O Your Own Stinko, it's the very first article for which I have drafted a write-up, which you can see [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Make-O Your Own Stinko|here]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:For many years, I was opposed to featuring Stinkoman 20X6 before its completion, but now that it seems about as likely to be finished as Schubert's 8th Symphony is, I am no longer opposed. Indeed, given its importance, I would consider it a good choice for featuring. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:46, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
::Yeah let's go with Stinkoman 20X6. This may be it's last chance at a feature especially if FAS closes at some point later. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Trogday (Jan 7-13)===
Either [[8-Bit is Enough]] or [[Wormdingler]], the latter of which I suggested for the week of Trogday of this year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:Somebody was hoping we could have Wormdingler featured to celebrate Troggie's 10th anniversary, but I'm fine with 8-Bit is Enough to celebrate Troggie's 10th too. I support both, but I'll also support whatever wiki consensus specifically decides. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

== Discussions of Articles Needing Expansion ==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, per consensus, require further expansion of the article itself before the article should be featured.''

==Stalled Discussions==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, due to lack of consensus or consensus against, are not ready to be featured at this time. ''

===[[Carol]]===
An important item/pseudocharacter. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:Could be cute. I'd have to see a good writeup before i'm convinced. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Carol|Here's]] a good write-up. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure i'd call it a "good" writeup... Seems rather disjointed to me. Comes off sounding like "In this toon, this happened. In this totally unrelated instance, this happened. In this third place, something else entirely." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:11, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::::I tried to rewrite the draft. I don't know if this works, but I do hope it'll help get this to a more wanted final version. I'd like to see a final version of this before I'll offer my support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 00:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::I fixed one point to make it more accurate, but it still strikes me as lacking. Is there any way we could spruce it up a bit more? I can't quite put my finger on what i think is missing, which is a shame. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::I don't know what it is that you think is missing, either. But I have somewhat improved the draft. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 15:49, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]===
I know [the week before 'Ween] is reserved for [[Bad Graphics Ghost]], but I'd like to go ahead and propose the article that I had in mind for that week: [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:We already achieved consensus for something else, and I don't see any reason to change just to accommodate one user's plans to the contrary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::I wholeheartedly agree! Routinely using subterfuge to undermine the FA process is underhanded and borders on the conniving. The FA proccess is a team effort and not a one-man show. Ricktommy, you knew the group made a decision and arrived at consensus yet you unilateraly decide that your way is better and somehow try to find a way to prod or manipulate your way into having everyone else follow your whim. This isn't how consensus works and you've routinely have had issues where you poke, prod and complain your way through the system just so what you want is featured. If not then you make suggestions weeks, if not months in advance long before anyone else even gets a chance to even consider thinking about possibly suggesting a feature somewhere, somehow. In the end your features end up dominating the system if we don't keep you in check. This has the negative effect of turning potential contributors away from FA. I ask that you show more courtesy for fellow editors and respect for the HRWiki community in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Also MAM 7 is rather weak and uninteresting. It wouldn't make a good feature in my opinion. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Well, can we feature it the week after Ween instead? And Ngamer, I completely disagree. I'll draft a write-up soon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::We generally do two features for Halloween, and I don't see why that should be changed this year just to accommodate one user's desires. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well, let me just say that it was that same user who suggested Bad Graphics Ghost in the first place. If he - that is to say, I - hadn't suggested BGG, would it still have been put in the queue for the week before 'Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I don't see how that matters. The source of the suggestion is irrelevant here; only what the community decides to do with those suggestions matters. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I also agree. I see no reason to change our methods here. Typical functioning in the world is that leading up to a holiday, as well as the holiday itself, is the holiday season. Once the holiday is over, no one cares about the holiday anymore until next year, and have already moved on to the next holiday. I mean, on November 5th, will you still be adding more skeletons, jack-o-lanterns, and witches brüe to your house decorations, or will you begin taking them down and replacing them with turkeys, pilgrim hats, and those fruit-filled horn thingies? If the former, I will gladly send you a calendar, because it seems you are in dire need of one. If the latter, then consider the fact that what you are suggesting is the wiki equivalent of putting up your spooky decorations almost a week after halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:14, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

==General discussion==

===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

[[Category:Featured article maintenance|Selection]]

Blubb-O's Commercial

Heimstern Läufer — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 23:09:42 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: sorry, I'm not convinced either; if you really think it is, take it to talk and make a convincing argument.

{{toonnav|Shorts|blubbos|Limozeen vs. Sloshy|Limozeen Live! (practice)}}
[[Image:Blubb-OsCommercial.png|thumb|"Blubb-O's. You guessed it, we're called Blubb-O's."]]
Come the heck down to Blubb-O's!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Drive-Thru Whale}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Peacey P}}, {{film|Bubs}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Strong Badia]] ([[Behind the Fence]]), [[Blubb-O's]], [[The Field]]

'''Date:''' Monday, March 10, 2008

'''Running time:''' 1:53

'''Page title:''' See Participating Stores for Details!
==Transcript==

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are walking along behind the fence in Strong Badia. Corny advertisement music plays quietly under them.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{haltingly, as a bad actor}'' Man, you guys! All this walking around behind the fence being a young person sure has gotten my hunger all up in a dander!

''{Suddenly, the Drive-Thru Whale shoots up from the ground in front of them}''

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Relinquish your pipes please, fellas!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{exaggeratedly}'' Relinquish our pipes? We'd love to!

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat all start laughing. The scene fades slightly as a huge Blubb-O's logo comes on screen, with the words "Come The Heck Down" written underneath.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Come the heck down to Blubb-O's and try your dang self the Blubb-O's Classic.

''{The scene changes to a red background and a burger appears, with a label below saying "Classic" when the announcer names it.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' The Original. The Regular. The New Original. The Old Classic.

''{Each time the announcer mentions another burger, the burger's image [[Flipped_Images|flips horizontally]] and a label with the new burger's name stacks on top of the previous ones. Then, a huge deep-fried triangle of fish appears between a burger bun, and another label appears over the others saying "Isosceles Fish Sandwich??"}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' And the Isosceles Fish Sandwich. Wait, fish sandwich? ''{A record scratch and the music stops.}'' We have a fish sandwich? Has anybody ever ordered that thing?

''{A beep is heard as the scene cuts abruptly to a kitchen with a lettuce, two onions, and two tomatoes lying on a counter top.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' At Blubb-O's, all our vegetables are hand tossed through a refreshing cascade of water, and chopped in mid air.

''{As the announcer mentions this, the vegetables are thrown through a waterfall and chopped in half with a knife. The scene then changes to a Blubb-O's restaurant counter, with Homestar behind it, looking exhausted, wearing a yellow deli-style hat with the Drive-Thru Whale on it and a yellow apron.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Welcome the crap to Blubb-O's. Would you like to try a combo meal ''{holds up a Blubb-O's meal bag}'', some Chipotle Potato Nudules ''{holds up a small paper dish with some [[French Fries|fries]]}'', or our Attempt-At-Competing-With-National-Coffee-Chains Premium Mocha-Chip Meltshake? ''{holds up a cup with some cocoa beans and the word "PREMIUM" printed on it}''

''{The camera cuts to Marzipan on the other side of the counter.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' I just have a question: Do you actually use whale meat, or just regular fast food meat? I just need to know how hard I should protest you.

''{Marzipan holds up two signs, one with the Drive-Thru Whale with the text "SAVE THE BLUBB-O WHALE", and the other with a caricature of the Drive-Thru Whale looking worried, with the text "really SAVE THE BLUBB-O WHALE". Cut to the field. Coach Z is in a large Drive-Thru Whale costume with some balloons next to him.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{laughs}'' Family fun, and I'm talkin' about men in costumes, is what Blubb-O's is all about.

'''COACH Z:''' Hey there kids! I'm the Drive-Thru Whale! ''{Jumps up and down and shouts.}'' I'll chop off your legs!

''{The view changes and Strong Sad is standing beside him.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Sometimes it seems like you're ''trying'' to go to prison, Coach Z.

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, three square meals a day!

''{The camera pans to the left where Strong Bad and The Cheat sit in a cardboard box with "HMS Locash" written on the side. Strong Bad is wearing his Archibald outfit from [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and holding a harpoon, and The Cheat has a harpoon gun.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thar she blows, The Cheat! Aim for the blowhole!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{looks at Strong Bad and makes The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? Whoa, I didn't even see Coach Z standing in a whale costume. Yeah, shoot him too!

''{As the sound of The Cheat firing the harpoon gun is heard, the scene cuts to a red background with a pale Blubb-O's watermark.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' And now for a limited time, introducing the Blubb-O's Thick 'n Nasty.

''{A burger with an extremely thick patty falls into frame, and a gold plate with "THICK 'n NASTY" on it appears on top. A drawing of Peacey P then pops up with a speech bubble saying "that's right. ya'll blubb-o heads. the thick 'n nasty!"}''

'''PEACEY P:''' That's right, ya'll Blubb-O heads. The Thick 'n Naaaaaaasty. ''{grunts}''

''{The camera pans right until a picture of Peacey P's mouth, with gold teeth with "THICK 'N NASTY" engraved on them, fills the screen with another speech bubble saying "eeungh!" The camera then cuts to the image of the Blubb-O's logo with "YOU GUESSED IT...WE'RE CALLED BLUBB-O'S" written below it.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Blubb-O's. You guessed it, we're called Blubb-O's.

''{A speech bubble appears briefly saying "REGISTER DOES NOT CONTAIN MORE THAN FIFTY DOCTORS." The logo shifts slightly off-center, and rubbery sounds are heard, as if the logo were on a balloon.}''

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Register does not contain more than fifty doctors.

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the whale's spout to see Bubs ordering a burger.
:''{An angry Bubs is seen through the grill of the Drive-Thru Whale.}''
:'''BUBS:''' No, I will not slice my fingers thin! I just wanna dang hambloiger!
:''{Cut to see Bubs in the [[Gremlin]], without wheels and on cinder blocks, pulled up next to the Drive-Thru Whale.}''
:'''BUBS:''' I got places to be, man!
:'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' You're living a lie. Would you like cash back?

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The name "Isosceles Fish Sandwich" is a play on an [[Wikipedia:Triangle#Types of triangles|isosceles triangle]], a triangle with at least two of its three sides identical in length.
*"HMS" is a British Naval designation used on ships, standing for [[Wikipedia:Her Majesty's Ship|Her Majesty's Ship]] or [[Wikipedia:His Majesty's Ship|His Majesty's Ship]] depending on the gender of the monarch.
*Drive-Thru Whale's line "register does not contain more than fifty doctors," is a corruption of "register does not contain more than fifty dollars", a notice similar to one that businesses or restaurants might display to deter robbery.

===Trivia===
*The Blubb-O's menu behind Homestar reads:
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|BLUBBO CLASSIC || 1.99 || NUDULES || 5.99
|-
|THE ORIGINAL || 2.99 || KETCHUP PACKET || 6.99
|-
|THE REGULAR || 3.99 || COFFEE STIRRER || 7.99
|-
|THE NEW ORIGINAL || 4.99 || GRAIN OF SALT || 8.99
|}
*Originally, each vegetable was cut as soon as it went through the waterfall, but this was changed soon after the toon was uploaded, so that they all get washed and then chopped separately.
*The background shown on the loading screen and during the scenes that show the burgers and the vegetables is the same [[HR:puppet_background.swf|background]] used for [[Puppet Stuff]], with red instead of blue.

===Remarks===
*According to [[road trip]], Bubs should not have been able to open the Gremlin's windows from the inside, and none of the car's external features suggest they could be opened from outside the vehicle.
*The Gremlin's passenger-side window is completely opaque, and appears to be covered by a sheet of steel or other gray material.

===Goofs===
*When The Cheat turns around to talk to Strong Bad in the HMS Locash, his lower back (or leg) pokes outside the box.

===Inside References===
*"Would you like to try a combo meal...?" was the Drive-Thru Whale's first line in [[Drive-Thru]].
*Strong Mad was shown holding a Blubb-O's bag in [[nightlife]].
*"I'll chop off your legs!" is a variation of "Sever your leg please, sir", and the background music is a variation of the Whale's music from [[Drive-Thru]].
*The term "meltshake" was first used in [[road trip]].
*Strong Bad is wearing his [[Archibald]] costume from [[A Decemberween Pageant]] when attempting to harpoon Strong Sad. 
*Bubs saying he wants "a dang hambloiger" is an instance of [["Er" pronounced as "Oi"]].
*"Nudules" were last mentioned in [[from work]]. There they were also associated with whales.
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]], and so does [[Strong Mad Smiling|Strong Mad]].
*Homestar's greeting is "Welcome the [[crap]] to Blubb-O's."
*The Blubb-O's announcer says to "try [[Own Dang X|your dang self]] the Blubb-O's Classic."
*Strong Sad remarks that it seems like Coach Z is trying to go to [[prison]].

===Real-World References===
*Sandwiches named "The Original", "The Regular" and "The New Original" may be a reference to the pseudo-band [[Spinal Tap]]. Early in their history they changed their name to The New Originals when they discovered that The Originals was already in use. According to the band, The Originals later changed their name to The Regulars.
*The Attempt-At-Competing-With-National-Coffee-Chains Premium Mocha-Chip Meltshake is a reference to how many fast food outlets, like [[McDonald's]], are touting their new "high-quality" coffee drinks as a way of competing with [[Wikipedia:Starbucks|Starbucks]].
*The sign on Strong Bad's cardboard box boat reads "HMS Locash", a reference to Robert LoCash, screenwriter of [[Wikipedia:CB4|CB4]], [[Wikipedia:Naked_Gun_33⅓:_The_Final_Insult|Naked Gun 33⅓]], and [[Wikipedia:BASEketball|BASEketball]].
*The phrase "Save the Blubb-O Whale", which appears on [[Marzipan's protest signs]], is derived from the name of [http://www.savethewhales.org/ Save the Whales], a non-profit organization founded in 1977 which focuses on marine mammal welfare.
*The Thick 'n Nasty is a parody of the [[Wikipedia:Big N' Tasty|Big N' Tasty]], a hamburger from McDonald's that was designed to compete with [[Wikipedia:Burger King|Burger King]]'s Whopper.
*Strong Bad's line, "Thar she blows!" is a famous quote from the [[Wikipedia:Herman Melville|Herman Melville]] novel [[Wikipedia:Moby-Dick|Moby-Dick]].

===Fast Forward===
*Coach Z's whale costume reappears in [[On Break]].

==External Links==
{{extlinks|blubbos|13717|youtube=H5kmOrQa0kA}}

[[Category:Shorts]]

HRWiki talk:Featured Article Selection/Drafts

Heimstern Läufer — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 02:23:06 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* "There's no reason the Sbemails should be separate." */ comment

=="There's no reason the Sbemails should be separate."==
Then why are they separate on the [[HRW:Featured Article Nominations|nominations page]]? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:27, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
:I dunno. I don't see that it matters; that list is pretty useless. Everything relating to the decision-making process is at FAS. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:23, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

Heimstern Läufer — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 11:47:00 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* 20X6 week (Dec 31-Jan 6) */ comment

{{shortcut|FAS||[[FAS]]}}
Welcome to '''[[HRWiki:Featured articles|featured article]] selection'''. Please help us choose and create write-ups for our best, most interesting, or otherwise noteworthy articles to appear on the [[main page]]. For ideas, check out the [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations|featured article nominations]]. For drafts, see [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts|this page]].

==Checklist==
{{talkchecklist|Checklist for new Featured Article:|noeditsection=true}}
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
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==Discussion archives==
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 26-29|2005, Weeks 26-29]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 30-39|2005, Weeks 30-39]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 40-49|2005, Weeks 40-52]]
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| 2006
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 1-10 |2006, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 11-20|2006, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 21-30|2006, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 31-40|2006, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 41-52|2006, Weeks 41-52]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 1-10 |2007, Weeks 1-10]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 21-30|2007, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 31-40|2007, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 41-52|2007, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2008
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 1-10 |2008, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 11-20|2008, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 21-30|2008, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 31-40|2008, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 41-52|2008, Weeks 41-52]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 1-10 |2009, Weeks 1-10]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 21-30|2009, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 31-40|2009, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 41-53|2009, Weeks 41-53]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 1-10 |2010, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 11-20|2010, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 21-30|2010, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 31-40|2010, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 41-52|2010, Weeks 41-52]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 1-10 |2011, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 11-20|2011, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 21-30|2011, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 31-40|2011, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 41-52|2011, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2012
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 1-10 |2012, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 11-20|2012, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 21-30|2012, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 31-40|2012, Weeks 31-40]]
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[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/General Discussion|Other Discussion]] |
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Stalled Discussions Archive 1|Stalled Discussions Archive 1]]
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==Featured Article Queue==
{| {{standardtable}}
! Week !! Article !! Discussion
{{FA queue| 8 Oct 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Kid Speedy}}
{{FA queue|15 Oct 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Pants}}
{{FA queue|22 Oct 2012 |Bad Graphics Ghost}}
{{FA queue|29 Oct 2012 |Halloween Fairstival}}
{{FA queue| 5 Nov 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Matt Chapman}}
{{FA queue|12 Nov 2012 |Strong Sad's iPod}}
|}

===Redirects===
This is a placeholder topic for 5-year redirects. Due to overall decreased activity, FAs are now being reused more often. The common practice has become to redirect to the FA exactly 5 years prior to the current FA. When an article is re-used, mark it in the following manner:
<pre>
{{FA queue|<date>|Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=<article name>}}
</pre>
Example:
<pre>
{{FA queue|15 Aug 2011 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=1-Up}}
</pre>

Please keep this discussion in the FA page at all times, but do copy it to archive pages as well.

=== [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] ===

''{{done}} {{FA|22 Oct 2012}}''

Surprised it was never featured; also, it was once accidentally bolded on the nominations page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
:This will be nice to feature next year for Halloween. Second'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
::I think we should hold this one off until Halloween next year as well. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 18:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I approve of a Hallow's Eve '12 feature. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 23:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
::::I'm guessing you guys mean the week ''before'' Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, week before. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 13:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::I made a [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|draft]] of a Bad Graphics Ghost FA. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
While I understand that you guys want to feature this for the week before 'Ween, I intended this one as a feature for any time. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 20:16, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Then you're going to be annoyed at Halloween FA reruns if we do this ASAP. At least by waiting, you'll get one new Halloween FA this year that is if FAS isn't put on hiatus by that time. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::I also think this will make a fine feature for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:29, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
:::You know what, I've changed my mind. I don't think this should be featured at all if it's going to conflict with the suggestions that I have in mind for Ween. And like I said, I intended this one to be featured any time. Also, the week of Ween is specifically for the big toons. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:15, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
::::RickTommy, you're not approaching this the right way. You're talking about it conflicting with "the suggestions that '''I''' have in mind for Ween" and how "'''I''' intended this one to be featured at any time" (emphasis mine). What you think is scarcely the point. It's what the community thinks that matters, and they clearly think this article should be featured the week before Halloween. If it's against your plans, I'm sorry, that's rough. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::Actually Soiled Bargains, Defender, and I wanted this for Halloween week. Rick was the one that stated that everyone wanted it before Halloween when actually only Power Pie wanted it for before Halloween. So technically this doesn't have consensus. I'll move this out of the queue. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::Could we please have clarification on this? I assumed when people said "Halloween" they meant "the Halloween season", not specifically that week. Since we do indeed nearly always feature a full-length toon on Halloween itself, and I don't really see why it would be different this year. Are people fine with making this the week before Halloween? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm cool with this being the week before, though I see no reason for it not to be the week of, especially in a Hiatus where there is not an unlimited supply of big halloween toons. Also, Ngamer, there IS consensus to feature, we even have consensus as to roughly when to feature, just not clear on which of the two proposed weeks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:You're right that there's not an unlimited supply of big toons, but there ''are'' some left that haven't been featured, and I think at least one is highly deserving of being featured. In fact, from what I can see, we still have three more years before we'd run out. And there is tradition: while I know that "we've always done it" isn't in and of itself a valid reason, all other things being equal, there's a lot to be said for sticking to tradition. And I for one am in favour of keeping our big toon tradition. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::Fair enough. Let's stick with the week before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::I guess I hadn't explained well my reasons from earlier. I mean I know there is consensus for this to be featured, but there was no consensus on when to feature and without that, this had to be moved out of the queue until consensus on when to feature was reached...which is now. I guess if Halloween FA week is for big Halloween toons only, I guess I'm fine with Bad Graphics Ghost being a lead-in to the actual Halloween FA week. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 19:11, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::I know this is a done deal but I also wanted to give my support for the week before halloween (week 43 as stated). Even if we run out of big toons to feature I think we can rerun old big toons in the coming years. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===

''{{done}} {{FA|29 Oct 2012}}''

[[Halloween Fairstival]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:Sure why not. Support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::Since this'll be October 29... how about [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]? It'll be ten years old to the day (Oct 29/02 - Oct 29/12) ...just another idea. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 17:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
:::First of all, [[weclome]] back, Bupkis. Where have you been for the past year and a half? Second of all, Carve-nival has already been featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay. Also, I haven't been very active here lately, with the hiatus and what not... I guess when sbemail206 rolls around things will pick up :p {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 22:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::So, you support Fairstival, right? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, we could do that. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 23:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I had attempted to expand Rick's stub after moving it [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Halloween Fairstival|here]]. As soon as the writeup is reviewed and fixed, the redirect I did for Week 44 can be reverted for the finished writeup. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:39, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Strong Sad's iPod]]===

''{{todo}} {{FA|12 Nov 2012}}''

I'm feeling a little random and want to feel less hypocritical, so I'd like to throw this out as an suggestion. SS's iPods were seen on [[Podstar Runner 2006]] and it's last incarnation [[Podstar Runner]], so the iPod was important in the past. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
:Support, I guess. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::I've got [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Strong Sad's iPod|a draft]] up for review and fixing if it'll help any. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::I think it needs to be reworded to make it clear that strong sad has had many ipods over the years, rather than talking about "strong sad's ipod" as a singular item. I like the idea of this as a feature, the writeup just needs significant improvement before i put in my complete support. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:32, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've improved it as best I can. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:37, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::After seeing the improvements, I support. (That Other Anonny Guy) [[Special:Contributions/121.219.232.190|121.219.232.190]] 11:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::The draft now strikes me as being disjointed and the same kind of laundry list as some of the other drafts i've made similar comments about. I'd like to see a draft that's both cohesive and comprehensive. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:51, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I think my recent changes to the draft have brought it together in a way with which i'm satisfied. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:04, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

==Article discussions==
===[[Carol]]===
An important item/pseudocharacter. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:Could be cute. I'd have to see a good writeup before i'm convinced. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Carol|Here's]] a good write-up. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure i'd call it a "good" writeup... Seems rather disjointed to me. Comes off sounding like "In this toon, this happened. In this totally unrelated instance, this happened. In this third place, something else entirely." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:11, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::::I tried to rewrite the draft. I don't know if this works, but I do hope it'll help get this to a more wanted final version. I'd like to see a final version of this before I'll offer my support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 00:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::I fixed one point to make it more accurate, but it still strikes me as lacking. Is there any way we could spruce it up a bit more? I can't quite put my finger on what i think is missing, which is a shame. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::I don't know what it is that you think is missing, either. But I have somewhat improved the draft. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 15:49, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Thanksgiving (Nov 19-25)===
[[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-Cards]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I never liked that one. Personally, I'd suggest re-featuring [[Let us give TANKS!]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::Didn't even realize that TANKS would have been the default rerun for this anyway. Also, to be clear, when I say re-feature, I don't necessarily mean using the same writeup, since it might be nice to expand it now that we're far less worried about giving spoilers. The old one also seems a bit dry as compared to the writeups we tend to do nowadays. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:41, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
:::Less concerned about spoilers how? What exactly do you think should be added to the old writeup? I certainly don't think the ending with the nuclear device should be revealed on the main page; I think the ending gag definitely needs to remain a surprise. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
::::What I meant by less concerned about spoilers was... not important. I think I was thinking of something else which in my fully awake state doesn't make nearly as much sense as it did last night when I wrote that. Anyway, I'd expand the writeup somewhat to be a little less dry and more fun, and have a few more details. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]===
I know [the week before 'Ween] is reserved for [[Bad Graphics Ghost]], but I'd like to go ahead and propose the article that I had in mind for that week: [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:We already achieved consensus for something else, and I don't see any reason to change just to accommodate one user's plans to the contrary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::I wholeheartedly agree! Routinely using subterfuge to undermine the FA process is underhanded and borders on the conniving. The FA proccess is a team effort and not a one-man show. Ricktommy, you knew the group made a decision and arrived at consensus yet you unilateraly decide that your way is better and somehow try to find a way to prod or manipulate your way into having everyone else follow your whim. This isn't how consensus works and you've routinely have had issues where you poke, prod and complain your way through the system just so what you want is featured. If not then you make suggestions weeks, if not months in advance long before anyone else even gets a chance to even consider thinking about possibly suggesting a feature somewhere, somehow. In the end your features end up dominating the system if we don't keep you in check. This has the negative effect of turning potential contributors away from FA. I ask that you show more courtesy for fellow editors and respect for the HRWiki community in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Also MAM 7 is rather weak and uninteresting. It wouldn't make a good feature in my opinion. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Well, can we feature it the week after Ween instead? And Ngamer, I completely disagree. I'll draft a write-up soon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::We generally do two features for Halloween, and I don't see why that should be changed this year just to accommodate one user's desires. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well, let me just say that it was that same user who suggested Bad Graphics Ghost in the first place. If he - that is to say, I - hadn't suggested BGG, would it still have been put in the queue for the week before 'Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I don't see how that matters. The source of the suggestion is irrelevant here; only what the community decides to do with those suggestions matters. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I also agree. I see no reason to change our methods here. Typical functioning in the world is that leading up to a holiday, as well as the holiday itself, is the holiday season. Once the holiday is over, no one cares about the holiday anymore until next year, and have already moved on to the next holiday. I mean, on November 5th, will you still be adding more skeletons, jack-o-lanterns, and witches brüe to your house decorations, or will you begin taking them down and replacing them with turkeys, pilgrim hats, and those fruit-filled horn thingies? If the former, I will gladly send you a calendar, because it seems you are in dire need of one. If the latter, then consider the fact that what you are suggesting is the wiki equivalent of putting up your spooky decorations almost a week after halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:14, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Snowglobe]]===
Since we had a re-run for the week before D'ween last year, I think that we should make up for it by doing three D'ween articles this year. For this week, [[Snowglobe]], the article that was suggested for the week before D'ween last year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I see no reason to do three this year just because one was a rerun last year. I also am not sure there's enough to say about snowglobe to feature. It's pretty much just a dumb snowglobe with a timer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with DeFender on both points. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::I also agree. Snowglobe just doesn't offer enough for a quality writeup. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::::I also agree that Snowglobe isn't worth featuring. (That Other Anonny Guy) [[Special:Contributions/121.219.232.190|121.219.232.190]] 11:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week before Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 17-23)===
[[Homestar and the Nice Present]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I propose a bit of a bolder move, and do a set of dailies from [[Decemberween In July]]. Most of them have already been featured on their own, but it'd be nice to see these featured all together. It'd include the above suggestion as well as a couple of other toons that haven't been featured yet. Here's the order i'd propose, with a star next to those that have been featured already (we can reuse the writeups for those):
:*Day 1 — [[Decemberween In July]] (To introduce the week)
:*Day 2 — [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 6]]*
:*Day 3 — [[That Time of Year]]*
:*Day 4 — [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]*
:*Day 5 — [[Homestar and the Nice Present]]
:*Day 6 — [[Seasonal Sweaters]]
:*Day 7 — [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]*
:{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::That set of dailies sounds like a fun idea! I support it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Holiday dailies of old and new sound good to me. Support'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::::As much as I dislike redirects, it's almost worth doing them if they're part of a daily, given how uncommon dailies are. So I support this daily too. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 24-30)===
[[A Decemberween Mackerel]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:Nah, i kinda hate mackarel. Senor Cardgage isn't at all his usual self, and the whole toon just makes me feel like TBC had waited so long to make one that they forgot how to actually create a homestar toon. Kinda like star wars episode 1. [[A Death-Defying Decemberween]] is a much better choice. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::Aww, I like Decemberween Mackerel! I don't think SC's any more out of character than we would expect for someone feeling the effects of hypothermia. Then again, I also like Death-Defying D'ween. I could go for either here. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:29, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Well, for example, SC doesn't call people by female names, instead calling them things like "pez dispenser". His words that are almost "one word and not quite another" are not in his usual style. Heck, IMO, if you give him homsar's accent and wail, the lines fit a lot better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:34, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Firebert]]===
It's been a while since we've featured something Cheat Commandos-related. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:I do support this, but could we save him for the final week of 2012 since 20X6 and Trogdor would get the two weeks afterwards? — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:30, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::What does Firebert have to do with 20X6 and Trogdor here? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::They all have debuts that happened in January. Though if we're looking at this from a Cheat Commandos perspective, Firebert officially didn't appear with the Cheat Commandos until May 2004... — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:26, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Plus, the last week of 2012 happens to be the week of Decemberween/Christmas. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Jibblies]]===
An important running gag. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:"Important"? To quote a very wise man, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Horrible Painting]]===
An important pseudo-character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Good suggestion and I support it, but could we save this guy for the week before Halloween week next year? — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I also agree with saving this for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::But once again, what about giving a fair chance to suggestions that I or anyone else may have in mind for that week? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
::::That aside, I'm not sure I think it's that great an idea to save Horrible Painting for then. It's not all that Halloweeny an item/pseudocharacter. It was the subject of Jibblies 2, it's true, but that's only one appearance out of quite a few. Next Halloween is also a long, long time away, and I'd like to hope we might have finally gotten around to replacing FAS by then (I know, I'm probably hoping too much). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:44, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Poker Night at the Inventory]]===
Well, it's a crossover, it was made by the creators of SBCG4AP, and it was released during the hiatus. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:But the game isn't Homestar Runner related. The most you'd get out of a FA writeup is "This is a crossover. The rest of the writeup is just a H*R trivia list!" I don't support it. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Completely untrue. Just look at the intro of the article. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[2-Part Episode: Part 1]] and [[2-Part Episode: Part 2]]===
I'm wondering how we'd feature these. Should we feature them simultaneously, back-to-back, or with Part 1 getting half a week and Part 2 getting the other half? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Back-to-back weeks would be best since each episode has enough material to make 'em stand for their own week. I don't see a need to feature both in one week. Support'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

===20X6 week (Dec 31-Jan 6)===
Either [[Stinkoman 20X6]] or [[Make-O Your Own Stinko]]. In the case of Stinkoman 20X6, I know it's been suggested several times that we wait until it's finished before we feature it, but at the rate H*R is going, it probably won't be finished. As for Make-O Your Own Stinko, it's the very first article for which I have drafted a write-up, which you can see [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Make-O Your Own Stinko|here]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:For many years, I was opposed to featuring Stinkoman 20X6 before its completion, but now that it seems about as likely to be finished as Schubert's 8th Symphony is, I am no longer opposed. Indeed, given its importance, I would consider it a good choice for featuring. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:46, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Trogday (Jan 7-13)===
Either [[8-Bit is Enough]] or [[Wormdingler]], the latter of which I suggested for the week of Trogday of this year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

== Discussions of Articles Needing Expansion ==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, per consensus, require further expansion of the article itself before the article should be featured.''

==Stalled Discussions==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, due to lack of consensus or consensus against, are not ready to be featured at this time. ''

=== [[Visor Robot]] ===
''An important minor character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:27, 7 December 2011 (UTC)''
:''"Important" in what way? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:55, 7 December 2011 (UTC)''
::''[[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|I made a draft]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)''
:::Well, it's important in that the Wiki gave it that name and the Brothers Chaps decided to use the name themselves, as an [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgements|acknowledgement]]. And nice write-up, G-guy. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Meh. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

=== [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgements]] ===
I mean, don't you just like it when the Brothers Chaps acknowledge this Wiki? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I do enjoy when that happens, true, but would such a writeup be anything more than a laundry list of the more prominent instances of this? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::After seeing the attempt at a draft, I am now convinced that there is not enough tying it all together to provide a cohesive writeup. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe]] ===
''An interesting topic. TBC stated that it doesn't bother them, so it it would be ok to feature. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.85.97|93.207.85.97]] 13:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)''
:''Featuring an article that has an incomplete template on it? I think not. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 08:06, 6 February 2011 (UTC)''
::''The thing is that this article will likely never be fully completed, considering that some of the inconsistencies at times can be very small. I completely support this article. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 10 February 2011''
:::''I support to! {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 02:09, 28 February 2011 (UTC)''
::::''Oh, I didn't notice the Incomplete Notice when I suggested it. I see how that would normally keep an article from being featured. But like doctorwho said, this is an article that will probably never be considered complete and I think it can be featured in the current state. I would however accept it if it is decided against it. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.86.183|93.207.86.183]] 10:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)''
:::::''I'm with SMB. Featured articles should be examples of the fine work of the wiki. If it's incomplete, it's not really a good specimen of our work. And to those who say it'll never complete, I say that if so, it'll never be suitable for featuring. And some articles never are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)''
::::::But [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], [[Marzipan and Coach Z's Relationship]], and [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]] have incomplete templates on them, and they got featured. Either way, this article not only has a long enough intro, but starts with not one, but ''two'' quotes. So I support it too. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Those pages are somewhat more clear-cut than this one is though. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Here's why I think this article should not be featured: although all four articles have an "Incomplete Notice" that doesn't paint the full picture. The three articles listed above ([[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], [[Marzipan and Coach Z's Relationship]], and [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]]) can be considered to be fairly objective lists. We actually can get authoritative sources (such as the laws of various states and the federal district for "crimes" and "shady business", and toon transcripts for the "relationship" article where Marzipan and Coach Z appear and interact) that make it clear what goes in each article leaving only a small amout of room for disagreements. If we wanted to, the HRWiki community could ensure that all toons have been covered and remove the tags. We haven't because this is a laborious process. While we believe we've probably caught most, if not all, instances of the topic in question in each article, we can't know with 100% certainty that we've covered everything. So to be safe that "incomplete" tag is there until we can know for sure (see [[Talk:The_Geddup_Noise#Gettup_Noise_Approved|the geddup noise talk page]]).
::::::::On the other hand, the "inconsistencies" article is reasonably more subjective, there is no clear guide that defines what goes in the article (except perhaps {{pl|l=http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inconsistency webster's dictionary}}), and what's worse, even if there were an objective meter we'd have to check every action in every toon against ''all other actions in all other toons and material'' if we even want to consider this list to be complete! Like Heim said, "Featured articles should be examples of the fine work of the wiki" and it's hard to place "inconsistencies" in that category. While the article covers an interesting topic, the subjective and loosely defined nature of this work makes it somewhat speculative and even presumes that [[The Brothers Chaps]] are omniscient beings. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:42, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Thanks for the lengthy response. But I would just like to point out that no-one except myself has addressed the well-written intro, which I think should be the major factor here. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::I'll address it. It's not a factor when weighed against all the other objections raised. It's got a great intro, and I personally happen to really like that page, but when compared to the other great lists on the wiki such as [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]], [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], and [[Coach Z's Problems]], it just doesn't doesn't live up. Aside from those other pages being itemized, organized, and categorized, the most important thing, even if the inconsistencies page were all those things, is the inherent inability to maintain reasonable objectivity when it comes to what counts. I'd go even further as to say that it's a bad example because TBC don't really try to maintain much consistency when it comes to most of the things that get put on that page. Locations of landmarks, ages and life status of characters, even some of their knowledge. Other things on that list are questionable, such as "Strong Sad tells Strong Bad he never heard of Limozeen, but they watched Limozeen: "but they're in space!" together in best thing." are just kind of like "okay, so if i watched some weird show i didn't care about once with my brother who hates me, i also wouldn't necessarily remember the name of the show or the characters." Yes, the intro is very well-worded and contains one quote from Matt and another from Strong Sad, but the list itself, which is the main information set being documented by the article, is not up to par. Remember, "featured '''articles'''" are not "featured intros", and having a good intro to a list is just not enough. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Scroll Button Songs]]===
Surprised it was never featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:There isn't much to say. It's mostly a list. It would be difficult to make this into a cohesive FA. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:15, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::EC'd: I agree with stux. I'm not convinced there's enough to write up. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:42, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::After seeing the attempt at a draft, I am now convinced that there is not enough information outside of the list itself to provide a cohesive writeup. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[homestarrunner.com]]===
It's been nominated several times before. That is all. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:What's there to say about it in a feature though? It's the domain on which most of the toons appear. Is there any more to be said? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Nicknames]]===
Another frequently edited article. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:It may be frequently edited, but the article is one giant list with a simple intro. I say no to this. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::I'll add my opinion of "no" for pretty much the same reasons as Ngamer said. I'd also add that, like the inconsistencies, it's rather subjective what constitutes a "nickname". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Bad Email]]s (daily feature) ===
Since our recent daily was done a very long time after the previous daily, I think that we should make up for it by doing another daily rrll rrll soon. My theme for this daily is Strong Bad Emails from the second half of the [[Tandy]] era. I go for these seven emails: [[little animal]], [[CGNU]], [[superhero name]], [[gimmicks]], [[weird dream]], [[dullard]], and [[vacation]]. I have drafted write-ups for all seven of them (see the drafts page). {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 11:10, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
:RickTommy - for at least the fourth time, "we're running out of featurable articles too fast to merit doing any dailies right now." I'd say we should wait until the chaps are back regularly for at least a year before we do another daily. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Meet Marshie]] ===
We've featured [[Malloween Commercial]], so how about featuring the original? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:30, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

===[[FAQ]]===
An important page on the site. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:Can we manage a writeup of this? There's no prose introduction to speak of, so it'd have to be some sort of summary. I'm not at all sure you'd be able to get enough content out of the FAQ page to make a proper main page writeup. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::I think we'll be able to do an introduction of this. I support nomination. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 21 February 2011
:::I missed that this page had been "slated" to feature this week despite inadequate consensus for featuring. There is reasonable question whether there enough material to feature. This cannot be featured until an adequately-long FA has been made. I'd suggest writing one to show that there is and then featuring it on a different week. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
:I made a big draft of the FA. [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|Click hear!]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
::And a good thing it's big, too. It addresses the concerns about the article being difficult to make a write-up out of. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:::A proper sized writeup is good to reach, but I don't think FAQ is interesting enough for a feature. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::::I agree with ngamer. Really not very interesting. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

===[[Legal]]===
An important page, since it can be accessed from the Navbar. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 09:09, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think this has enough content to feature. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:00, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
::Correction: The wiki page has too much content to feature. [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|Here is proof!]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
:::You may want to trim that writeup down. We want to give viewers a small sample of what the article is about. Not shove an entire article on the front page. =P — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've done so. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:06, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
:::::Now the question remains is that is Legal interesting enough for a feature? I'm leaning toward no myself. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 14:05, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::I agree with NGamer, the [[HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection/Drafts#Legal|FA article draft]] pretty much just relays 90% of the page content. There just really isn't enough in this page to make a good FA out of it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Correction: it had 90% of the page content before it was shortened. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Whether the writeup is the majority of the page content or not, I just don't think a page with a bunch of legal stuff is worth featuring. The only thing interesting that happens is homestar saying "bo-wing" which pretty much sums up what it would be like to feature it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

=== [[The Announcer]] ===
An important minor character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 03:19, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
:Yes he is important. I scribbled down a draft [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|here]]. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
::That draft is the entire article, and it's got grammatical errors and NPOV issues to boot. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:::You mean the entire intro of the article, and what are the errors and issues, exactly? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::::No, i mean the entire article. The character evolution section doesn't count, as those tend to be separate pages for the more common characters. It's only part of the article for him since he's not big enough to have a series of pages devoted to him, and his appearance has evolved a lot. As for the issues, "rarely actually", "we know little of him", etc. I corrected as much as I could in the main article, but I still don't think it's worth featuring. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Doreauxgard]] ===
Another important pseudo-character. (Man, I hate sounding repetitive.) {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:46, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Doreauxgard|Here's]] a write-up that G-man drafted. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
::Important how? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

===[[The Cheat's Gold Tooth]]===
''How about featuring TC's tricked-out grill. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.13.68|132.183.13.68]] 18:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)''
:''Maybe. It's not that significant but it's long enough. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)''
::''Unfortunately, I think this is one of those articles that should be expanded a little before featuring. (Alternatively, if a writeup is made that expands on the topic, it can also be placed in the queue that way). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)''
:::I've drafted an adequate write-up. ([[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#The Cheat's Gold Tooth]]) {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
::::The writeup is long enough, but i don't think the topic is really all that interesting to feature. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:21, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

===[[your friends]]===
We've featured a Sbemail [in mid-late July] for the last couple of years. How about [[your friends]], the first email for which I had drafted a write-up? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
:I don't see any reason to stick to a pattern which has no basis aside from happenstance. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:36, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::I don't think this would make a good feature. I mean it's just Strong Bad going to hurt his "friends". Not really interesting outside SB leaving The Poopsmith alone because his crappy job probably gives him a high pain tolerance. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

===[[Compé]]===
I was thinking of saving it until sbemail206 is released, but at the rate the site is going, it probably won't be released. So I guess we should feature it soon, even though it's not developed (no pun intended) and it lacks appearances. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:It's too soon for this to be featured even if it is SB's first GUI-based computer with rotating wallpapers. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
::Agree with Ngamer. It's not developed enough. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

==General discussion==

===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

[[Category:Featured article maintenance|Selection]]

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

Heimstern Läufer — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 11:44:42 GMT

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Welcome to '''[[HRWiki:Featured articles|featured article]] selection'''. Please help us choose and create write-ups for our best, most interesting, or otherwise noteworthy articles to appear on the [[main page]]. For ideas, check out the [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations|featured article nominations]]. For drafts, see [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts|this page]].

==Checklist==
{{talkchecklist|Checklist for new Featured Article:|noeditsection=true}}
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
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==Discussion archives==
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 26-29|2005, Weeks 26-29]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 30-39|2005, Weeks 30-39]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 40-49|2005, Weeks 40-52]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 1-10 |2006, Weeks 1-10]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 21-30|2006, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 31-40|2006, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 41-52|2006, Weeks 41-52]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 1-10 |2007, Weeks 1-10]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 21-30|2007, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 31-40|2007, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 41-52|2007, Weeks 41-52]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 1-10 |2008, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 11-20|2008, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 21-30|2008, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 31-40|2008, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 41-52|2008, Weeks 41-52]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 1-10 |2009, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 11-20|2009, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 21-30|2009, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 31-40|2009, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 41-53|2009, Weeks 41-53]]
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| 2010
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 1-10 |2010, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 11-20|2010, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 21-30|2010, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 31-40|2010, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 41-52|2010, Weeks 41-52]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 1-10 |2011, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 11-20|2011, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 21-30|2011, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 31-40|2011, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 41-52|2011, Weeks 41-52]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 1-10 |2012, Weeks 1-10]]
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[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Stalled Discussions Archive 1|Stalled Discussions Archive 1]]
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==Featured Article Queue==
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{{FA queue| 8 Oct 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Kid Speedy}}
{{FA queue|15 Oct 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Pants}}
{{FA queue|22 Oct 2012 |Bad Graphics Ghost}}
{{FA queue|29 Oct 2012 |Halloween Fairstival}}
{{FA queue| 5 Nov 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Matt Chapman}}
{{FA queue|12 Nov 2012 |Strong Sad's iPod}}
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===Redirects===
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Please keep this discussion in the FA page at all times, but do copy it to archive pages as well.

=== [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] ===

''{{done}} {{FA|22 Oct 2012}}''

Surprised it was never featured; also, it was once accidentally bolded on the nominations page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
:This will be nice to feature next year for Halloween. Second'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
::I think we should hold this one off until Halloween next year as well. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 18:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I approve of a Hallow's Eve '12 feature. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 23:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
::::I'm guessing you guys mean the week ''before'' Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, week before. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 13:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::I made a [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|draft]] of a Bad Graphics Ghost FA. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
While I understand that you guys want to feature this for the week before 'Ween, I intended this one as a feature for any time. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 20:16, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Then you're going to be annoyed at Halloween FA reruns if we do this ASAP. At least by waiting, you'll get one new Halloween FA this year that is if FAS isn't put on hiatus by that time. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::I also think this will make a fine feature for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:29, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
:::You know what, I've changed my mind. I don't think this should be featured at all if it's going to conflict with the suggestions that I have in mind for Ween. And like I said, I intended this one to be featured any time. Also, the week of Ween is specifically for the big toons. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:15, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
::::RickTommy, you're not approaching this the right way. You're talking about it conflicting with "the suggestions that '''I''' have in mind for Ween" and how "'''I''' intended this one to be featured at any time" (emphasis mine). What you think is scarcely the point. It's what the community thinks that matters, and they clearly think this article should be featured the week before Halloween. If it's against your plans, I'm sorry, that's rough. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::Actually Soiled Bargains, Defender, and I wanted this for Halloween week. Rick was the one that stated that everyone wanted it before Halloween when actually only Power Pie wanted it for before Halloween. So technically this doesn't have consensus. I'll move this out of the queue. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::Could we please have clarification on this? I assumed when people said "Halloween" they meant "the Halloween season", not specifically that week. Since we do indeed nearly always feature a full-length toon on Halloween itself, and I don't really see why it would be different this year. Are people fine with making this the week before Halloween? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm cool with this being the week before, though I see no reason for it not to be the week of, especially in a Hiatus where there is not an unlimited supply of big halloween toons. Also, Ngamer, there IS consensus to feature, we even have consensus as to roughly when to feature, just not clear on which of the two proposed weeks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:You're right that there's not an unlimited supply of big toons, but there ''are'' some left that haven't been featured, and I think at least one is highly deserving of being featured. In fact, from what I can see, we still have three more years before we'd run out. And there is tradition: while I know that "we've always done it" isn't in and of itself a valid reason, all other things being equal, there's a lot to be said for sticking to tradition. And I for one am in favour of keeping our big toon tradition. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::Fair enough. Let's stick with the week before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::I guess I hadn't explained well my reasons from earlier. I mean I know there is consensus for this to be featured, but there was no consensus on when to feature and without that, this had to be moved out of the queue until consensus on when to feature was reached...which is now. I guess if Halloween FA week is for big Halloween toons only, I guess I'm fine with Bad Graphics Ghost being a lead-in to the actual Halloween FA week. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 19:11, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::I know this is a done deal but I also wanted to give my support for the week before halloween (week 43 as stated). Even if we run out of big toons to feature I think we can rerun old big toons in the coming years. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===

''{{done}} {{FA|29 Oct 2012}}''

[[Halloween Fairstival]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:Sure why not. Support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::Since this'll be October 29... how about [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]? It'll be ten years old to the day (Oct 29/02 - Oct 29/12) ...just another idea. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 17:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
:::First of all, [[weclome]] back, Bupkis. Where have you been for the past year and a half? Second of all, Carve-nival has already been featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay. Also, I haven't been very active here lately, with the hiatus and what not... I guess when sbemail206 rolls around things will pick up :p {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 22:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::So, you support Fairstival, right? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, we could do that. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 23:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I had attempted to expand Rick's stub after moving it [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Halloween Fairstival|here]]. As soon as the writeup is reviewed and fixed, the redirect I did for Week 44 can be reverted for the finished writeup. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:39, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Strong Sad's iPod]]===

''{{todo}} {{FA|12 Nov 2012}}''

I'm feeling a little random and want to feel less hypocritical, so I'd like to throw this out as an suggestion. SS's iPods were seen on [[Podstar Runner 2006]] and it's last incarnation [[Podstar Runner]], so the iPod was important in the past. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
:Support, I guess. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::I've got [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Strong Sad's iPod|a draft]] up for review and fixing if it'll help any. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::I think it needs to be reworded to make it clear that strong sad has had many ipods over the years, rather than talking about "strong sad's ipod" as a singular item. I like the idea of this as a feature, the writeup just needs significant improvement before i put in my complete support. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:32, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've improved it as best I can. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:37, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::After seeing the improvements, I support. (That Other Anonny Guy) [[Special:Contributions/121.219.232.190|121.219.232.190]] 11:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::The draft now strikes me as being disjointed and the same kind of laundry list as some of the other drafts i've made similar comments about. I'd like to see a draft that's both cohesive and comprehensive. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:51, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I think my recent changes to the draft have brought it together in a way with which i'm satisfied. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:04, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

==Article discussions==
===[[Carol]]===
An important item/pseudocharacter. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:Could be cute. I'd have to see a good writeup before i'm convinced. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Carol|Here's]] a good write-up. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure i'd call it a "good" writeup... Seems rather disjointed to me. Comes off sounding like "In this toon, this happened. In this totally unrelated instance, this happened. In this third place, something else entirely." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:11, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::::I tried to rewrite the draft. I don't know if this works, but I do hope it'll help get this to a more wanted final version. I'd like to see a final version of this before I'll offer my support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 00:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::I fixed one point to make it more accurate, but it still strikes me as lacking. Is there any way we could spruce it up a bit more? I can't quite put my finger on what i think is missing, which is a shame. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::I don't know what it is that you think is missing, either. But I have somewhat improved the draft. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 15:49, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Thanksgiving (Nov 19-25)===
[[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-Cards]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I never liked that one. Personally, I'd suggest re-featuring [[Let us give TANKS!]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::Didn't even realize that TANKS would have been the default rerun for this anyway. Also, to be clear, when I say re-feature, I don't necessarily mean using the same writeup, since it might be nice to expand it now that we're far less worried about giving spoilers. The old one also seems a bit dry as compared to the writeups we tend to do nowadays. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:41, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
:::Less concerned about spoilers how? What exactly do you think should be added to the old writeup? I certainly don't think the ending with the nuclear device should be revealed on the main page; I think the ending gag definitely needs to remain a surprise. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
::::What I meant by less concerned about spoilers was... not important. I think I was thinking of something else which in my fully awake state doesn't make nearly as much sense as it did last night when I wrote that. Anyway, I'd expand the writeup somewhat to be a little less dry and more fun, and have a few more details. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]===
I know [the week before 'Ween] is reserved for [[Bad Graphics Ghost]], but I'd like to go ahead and propose the article that I had in mind for that week: [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:We already achieved consensus for something else, and I don't see any reason to change just to accommodate one user's plans to the contrary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::I wholeheartedly agree! Routinely using subterfuge to undermine the FA process is underhanded and borders on the conniving. The FA proccess is a team effort and not a one-man show. Ricktommy, you knew the group made a decision and arrived at consensus yet you unilateraly decide that your way is better and somehow try to find a way to prod or manipulate your way into having everyone else follow your whim. This isn't how consensus works and you've routinely have had issues where you poke, prod and complain your way through the system just so what you want is featured. If not then you make suggestions weeks, if not months in advance long before anyone else even gets a chance to even consider thinking about possibly suggesting a feature somewhere, somehow. In the end your features end up dominating the system if we don't keep you in check. This has the negative effect of turning potential contributors away from FA. I ask that you show more courtesy for fellow editors and respect for the HRWiki community in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Also MAM 7 is rather weak and uninteresting. It wouldn't make a good feature in my opinion. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Well, can we feature it the week after Ween instead? And Ngamer, I completely disagree. I'll draft a write-up soon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::We generally do two features for Halloween, and I don't see why that should be changed this year just to accommodate one user's desires. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well, let me just say that it was that same user who suggested Bad Graphics Ghost in the first place. If he - that is to say, I - hadn't suggested BGG, would it still have been put in the queue for the week before 'Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I don't see how that matters. The source of the suggestion is irrelevant here; only what the community decides to do with those suggestions matters. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I also agree. I see no reason to change our methods here. Typical functioning in the world is that leading up to a holiday, as well as the holiday itself, is the holiday season. Once the holiday is over, no one cares about the holiday anymore until next year, and have already moved on to the next holiday. I mean, on November 5th, will you still be adding more skeletons, jack-o-lanterns, and witches brüe to your house decorations, or will you begin taking them down and replacing them with turkeys, pilgrim hats, and those fruit-filled horn thingies? If the former, I will gladly send you a calendar, because it seems you are in dire need of one. If the latter, then consider the fact that what you are suggesting is the wiki equivalent of putting up your spooky decorations almost a week after halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:14, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Snowglobe]]===
Since we had a re-run for the week before D'ween last year, I think that we should make up for it by doing three D'ween articles this year. For this week, [[Snowglobe]], the article that was suggested for the week before D'ween last year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I see no reason to do three this year just because one was a rerun last year. I also am not sure there's enough to say about snowglobe to feature. It's pretty much just a dumb snowglobe with a timer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with DeFender on both points. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::I also agree. Snowglobe just doesn't offer enough for a quality writeup. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::::I also agree that Snowglobe isn't worth featuring. (That Other Anonny Guy) [[Special:Contributions/121.219.232.190|121.219.232.190]] 11:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week before Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 17-23)===
[[Homestar and the Nice Present]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I propose a bit of a bolder move, and do a set of dailies from [[Decemberween In July]]. Most of them have already been featured on their own, but it'd be nice to see these featured all together. It'd include the above suggestion as well as a couple of other toons that haven't been featured yet. Here's the order i'd propose, with a star next to those that have been featured already (we can reuse the writeups for those):
:*Day 1 — [[Decemberween In July]] (To introduce the week)
:*Day 2 — [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 6]]*
:*Day 3 — [[That Time of Year]]*
:*Day 4 — [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]*
:*Day 5 — [[Homestar and the Nice Present]]
:*Day 6 — [[Seasonal Sweaters]]
:*Day 7 — [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]*
:{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::That set of dailies sounds like a fun idea! I support it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Holiday dailies of old and new sound good to me. Support'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::::As much as I dislike redirects, it's almost worth doing them if they're part of a daily, given how uncommon dailies are. So I support this daily too. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 24-30)===
[[A Decemberween Mackerel]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:Nah, i kinda hate mackarel. Senor Cardgage isn't at all his usual self, and the whole toon just makes me feel like TBC had waited so long to make one that they forgot how to actually create a homestar toon. Kinda like star wars episode 1. [[A Death-Defying Decemberween]] is a much better choice. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::Aww, I like Decemberween Mackerel! I don't think SC's any more out of character than we would expect for someone feeling the effects of hypothermia. Then again, I also like Death-Defying D'ween. I could go for either here. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:29, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Well, for example, SC doesn't call people by female names, instead calling them things like "pez dispenser". His words that are almost "one word and not quite another" are not in his usual style. Heck, IMO, if you give him homsar's accent and wail, the lines fit a lot better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:34, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Firebert]]===
It's been a while since we've featured something Cheat Commandos-related. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:I do support this, but could we save him for the final week of 2012 since 20X6 and Trogdor would get the two weeks afterwards? — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:30, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::What does Firebert have to do with 20X6 and Trogdor here? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::They all have debuts that happened in January. Though if we're looking at this from a Cheat Commandos perspective, Firebert officially didn't appear with the Cheat Commandos until May 2004... — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:26, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Plus, the last week of 2012 happens to be the week of Decemberween/Christmas. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Jibblies]]===
An important running gag. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:"Important"? To quote a very wise man, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Horrible Painting]]===
An important pseudo-character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Good suggestion and I support it, but could we save this guy for the week before Halloween week next year? — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I also agree with saving this for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::But once again, what about giving a fair chance to suggestions that I or anyone else may have in mind for that week? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
::::That aside, I'm not sure I think it's that great an idea to save Horrible Painting for then. It's not all that Halloweeny an item/pseudocharacter. It was the subject of Jibblies 2, it's true, but that's only one appearance out of quite a few. Next Halloween is also a long, long time away, and I'd like to hope we might have finally gotten around to replacing FAS by then (I know, I'm probably hoping too much). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:44, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[Poker Night at the Inventory]]===
Well, it's a crossover, it was made by the creators of SBCG4AP, and it was released during the hiatus. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:But the game isn't Homestar Runner related. The most you'd get out of a FA writeup is "This is a crossover. The rest of the writeup is just a H*R trivia list!" I don't support it. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Completely untrue. Just look at the intro of the article. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

===[[2-Part Episode: Part 1]] and [[2-Part Episode: Part 2]]===
I'm wondering how we'd feature these. Should we feature them simultaneously, back-to-back, or with Part 1 getting half a week and Part 2 getting the other half? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Back-to-back weeks would be best since each episode has enough material to make 'em stand for their own week. I don't see a need to feature both in one week. Support'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

===20X6 week (Dec 31-Jan 6)===
Either [[Stinkoman 20X6]] or [[Make-O Your Own Stinko]]. In the case of Stinkoman 20X6, I know it's been suggested several times that we wait until it's finished before we feature it, but at the rate H*R is going, it probably won't be finished. As for Make-O Your Own Stinko, it's the very first article for which I have drafted a write-up, which you can see [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Make-O Your Own Stinko|here]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Trogday (Jan 7-13)===
Either [[8-Bit is Enough]] or [[Wormdingler]], the latter of which I suggested for the week of Trogday of this year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

== Discussions of Articles Needing Expansion ==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, per consensus, require further expansion of the article itself before the article should be featured.''

==Stalled Discussions==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, due to lack of consensus or consensus against, are not ready to be featured at this time. ''

=== [[Visor Robot]] ===
''An important minor character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:27, 7 December 2011 (UTC)''
:''"Important" in what way? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:55, 7 December 2011 (UTC)''
::''[[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|I made a draft]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)''
:::Well, it's important in that the Wiki gave it that name and the Brothers Chaps decided to use the name themselves, as an [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgements|acknowledgement]]. And nice write-up, G-guy. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Meh. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

=== [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgements]] ===
I mean, don't you just like it when the Brothers Chaps acknowledge this Wiki? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I do enjoy when that happens, true, but would such a writeup be anything more than a laundry list of the more prominent instances of this? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::After seeing the attempt at a draft, I am now convinced that there is not enough tying it all together to provide a cohesive writeup. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe]] ===
''An interesting topic. TBC stated that it doesn't bother them, so it it would be ok to feature. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.85.97|93.207.85.97]] 13:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)''
:''Featuring an article that has an incomplete template on it? I think not. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 08:06, 6 February 2011 (UTC)''
::''The thing is that this article will likely never be fully completed, considering that some of the inconsistencies at times can be very small. I completely support this article. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 10 February 2011''
:::''I support to! {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 02:09, 28 February 2011 (UTC)''
::::''Oh, I didn't notice the Incomplete Notice when I suggested it. I see how that would normally keep an article from being featured. But like doctorwho said, this is an article that will probably never be considered complete and I think it can be featured in the current state. I would however accept it if it is decided against it. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.86.183|93.207.86.183]] 10:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)''
:::::''I'm with SMB. Featured articles should be examples of the fine work of the wiki. If it's incomplete, it's not really a good specimen of our work. And to those who say it'll never complete, I say that if so, it'll never be suitable for featuring. And some articles never are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)''
::::::But [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], [[Marzipan and Coach Z's Relationship]], and [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]] have incomplete templates on them, and they got featured. Either way, this article not only has a long enough intro, but starts with not one, but ''two'' quotes. So I support it too. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Those pages are somewhat more clear-cut than this one is though. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Here's why I think this article should not be featured: although all four articles have an "Incomplete Notice" that doesn't paint the full picture. The three articles listed above ([[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], [[Marzipan and Coach Z's Relationship]], and [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]]) can be considered to be fairly objective lists. We actually can get authoritative sources (such as the laws of various states and the federal district for "crimes" and "shady business", and toon transcripts for the "relationship" article where Marzipan and Coach Z appear and interact) that make it clear what goes in each article leaving only a small amout of room for disagreements. If we wanted to, the HRWiki community could ensure that all toons have been covered and remove the tags. We haven't because this is a laborious process. While we believe we've probably caught most, if not all, instances of the topic in question in each article, we can't know with 100% certainty that we've covered everything. So to be safe that "incomplete" tag is there until we can know for sure (see [[Talk:The_Geddup_Noise#Gettup_Noise_Approved|the geddup noise talk page]]).
::::::::On the other hand, the "inconsistencies" article is reasonably more subjective, there is no clear guide that defines what goes in the article (except perhaps {{pl|l=http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inconsistency webster's dictionary}}), and what's worse, even if there were an objective meter we'd have to check every action in every toon against ''all other actions in all other toons and material'' if we even want to consider this list to be complete! Like Heim said, "Featured articles should be examples of the fine work of the wiki" and it's hard to place "inconsistencies" in that category. While the article covers an interesting topic, the subjective and loosely defined nature of this work makes it somewhat speculative and even presumes that [[The Brothers Chaps]] are omniscient beings. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:42, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Thanks for the lengthy response. But I would just like to point out that no-one except myself has addressed the well-written intro, which I think should be the major factor here. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::I'll address it. It's not a factor when weighed against all the other objections raised. It's got a great intro, and I personally happen to really like that page, but when compared to the other great lists on the wiki such as [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]], [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], and [[Coach Z's Problems]], it just doesn't doesn't live up. Aside from those other pages being itemized, organized, and categorized, the most important thing, even if the inconsistencies page were all those things, is the inherent inability to maintain reasonable objectivity when it comes to what counts. I'd go even further as to say that it's a bad example because TBC don't really try to maintain much consistency when it comes to most of the things that get put on that page. Locations of landmarks, ages and life status of characters, even some of their knowledge. Other things on that list are questionable, such as "Strong Sad tells Strong Bad he never heard of Limozeen, but they watched Limozeen: "but they're in space!" together in best thing." are just kind of like "okay, so if i watched some weird show i didn't care about once with my brother who hates me, i also wouldn't necessarily remember the name of the show or the characters." Yes, the intro is very well-worded and contains one quote from Matt and another from Strong Sad, but the list itself, which is the main information set being documented by the article, is not up to par. Remember, "featured '''articles'''" are not "featured intros", and having a good intro to a list is just not enough. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Scroll Button Songs]]===
Surprised it was never featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:There isn't much to say. It's mostly a list. It would be difficult to make this into a cohesive FA. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:15, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::EC'd: I agree with stux. I'm not convinced there's enough to write up. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:42, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::After seeing the attempt at a draft, I am now convinced that there is not enough information outside of the list itself to provide a cohesive writeup. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[homestarrunner.com]]===
It's been nominated several times before. That is all. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:What's there to say about it in a feature though? It's the domain on which most of the toons appear. Is there any more to be said? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Nicknames]]===
Another frequently edited article. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:It may be frequently edited, but the article is one giant list with a simple intro. I say no to this. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::I'll add my opinion of "no" for pretty much the same reasons as Ngamer said. I'd also add that, like the inconsistencies, it's rather subjective what constitutes a "nickname". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Bad Email]]s (daily feature) ===
Since our recent daily was done a very long time after the previous daily, I think that we should make up for it by doing another daily rrll rrll soon. My theme for this daily is Strong Bad Emails from the second half of the [[Tandy]] era. I go for these seven emails: [[little animal]], [[CGNU]], [[superhero name]], [[gimmicks]], [[weird dream]], [[dullard]], and [[vacation]]. I have drafted write-ups for all seven of them (see the drafts page). {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 11:10, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
:RickTommy - for at least the fourth time, "we're running out of featurable articles too fast to merit doing any dailies right now." I'd say we should wait until the chaps are back regularly for at least a year before we do another daily. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Meet Marshie]] ===
We've featured [[Malloween Commercial]], so how about featuring the original? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:30, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

===[[FAQ]]===
An important page on the site. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:Can we manage a writeup of this? There's no prose introduction to speak of, so it'd have to be some sort of summary. I'm not at all sure you'd be able to get enough content out of the FAQ page to make a proper main page writeup. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::I think we'll be able to do an introduction of this. I support nomination. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 21 February 2011
:::I missed that this page had been "slated" to feature this week despite inadequate consensus for featuring. There is reasonable question whether there enough material to feature. This cannot be featured until an adequately-long FA has been made. I'd suggest writing one to show that there is and then featuring it on a different week. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
:I made a big draft of the FA. [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|Click hear!]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
::And a good thing it's big, too. It addresses the concerns about the article being difficult to make a write-up out of. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:::A proper sized writeup is good to reach, but I don't think FAQ is interesting enough for a feature. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::::I agree with ngamer. Really not very interesting. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

===[[Legal]]===
An important page, since it can be accessed from the Navbar. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 09:09, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think this has enough content to feature. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:00, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
::Correction: The wiki page has too much content to feature. [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|Here is proof!]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
:::You may want to trim that writeup down. We want to give viewers a small sample of what the article is about. Not shove an entire article on the front page. =P — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've done so. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:06, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
:::::Now the question remains is that is Legal interesting enough for a feature? I'm leaning toward no myself. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 14:05, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::I agree with NGamer, the [[HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection/Drafts#Legal|FA article draft]] pretty much just relays 90% of the page content. There just really isn't enough in this page to make a good FA out of it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Correction: it had 90% of the page content before it was shortened. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Whether the writeup is the majority of the page content or not, I just don't think a page with a bunch of legal stuff is worth featuring. The only thing interesting that happens is homestar saying "bo-wing" which pretty much sums up what it would be like to feature it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

=== [[The Announcer]] ===
An important minor character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 03:19, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
:Yes he is important. I scribbled down a draft [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|here]]. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
::That draft is the entire article, and it's got grammatical errors and NPOV issues to boot. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:::You mean the entire intro of the article, and what are the errors and issues, exactly? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::::No, i mean the entire article. The character evolution section doesn't count, as those tend to be separate pages for the more common characters. It's only part of the article for him since he's not big enough to have a series of pages devoted to him, and his appearance has evolved a lot. As for the issues, "rarely actually", "we know little of him", etc. I corrected as much as I could in the main article, but I still don't think it's worth featuring. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Doreauxgard]] ===
Another important pseudo-character. (Man, I hate sounding repetitive.) {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:46, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Doreauxgard|Here's]] a write-up that G-man drafted. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
::Important how? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

===[[The Cheat's Gold Tooth]]===
''How about featuring TC's tricked-out grill. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.13.68|132.183.13.68]] 18:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)''
:''Maybe. It's not that significant but it's long enough. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)''
::''Unfortunately, I think this is one of those articles that should be expanded a little before featuring. (Alternatively, if a writeup is made that expands on the topic, it can also be placed in the queue that way). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)''
:::I've drafted an adequate write-up. ([[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#The Cheat's Gold Tooth]]) {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
::::The writeup is long enough, but i don't think the topic is really all that interesting to feature. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:21, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

===[[your friends]]===
We've featured a Sbemail [in mid-late July] for the last couple of years. How about [[your friends]], the first email for which I had drafted a write-up? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
:I don't see any reason to stick to a pattern which has no basis aside from happenstance. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:36, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::I don't think this would make a good feature. I mean it's just Strong Bad going to hurt his "friends". Not really interesting outside SB leaving The Poopsmith alone because his crappy job probably gives him a high pain tolerance. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

===[[Compé]]===
I was thinking of saving it until sbemail206 is released, but at the rate the site is going, it probably won't be released. So I guess we should feature it soon, even though it's not developed (no pun intended) and it lacks appearances. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:It's too soon for this to be featured even if it is SB's first GUI-based computer with rotating wallpapers. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
::Agree with Ngamer. It's not developed enough. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

==General discussion==

===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

[[Category:Featured article maintenance|Selection]]

User:Heimstern Läufer

Heimstern Läufer — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 05:38:44 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* Some random facts */ timely quote

<div style="border: 1px solid #009; padding: .5em 1em; color: #000; background-color: #DEF; margin: 3px 3px 0; text-align: center"> Not as active as I once was, so lots of the info on this userpage is kind of out of date. But I still reply to talk messages. </div>

== Wilkommen bei Heimsternläufer.net. Es ist .de! ==
[[Image:HeimsternGreatWall.JPG|thumb|Yeah, that's what I look like. On the Great Wall, no less.]]
Hallo! Wie geht's Euch? Ich freue mich, daß Ihr meine Webpage besucht!

So, my name's Nat. I'm a resident of [[Wikipedia:California|California]], though I currently live in [[Wikipedia:China|China]].

I got a Master's degree in 2007 in Music Theory because I'm obsessed with classical music of all sorts, especially [[Wikipedia:Franz Josef Haydn|Haydn]], [[Wikipedia:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]], [[Wikipedia:Franz Schubert|Schubert]], [[Wikipedia:Carl Maria von Weber|Weber]], [[Wikipedia:Richard Wagner|Wagner]] and [[Wikipedia:Gustav Mahler|Mahler]]. That, and I've recently developed a strong fascination for [[Wikipedia:Léo Delibes|Delibes's]] [[Wikipedia:Lakmé|Lakmé]]. I enjoy singing all sorts of classical music, not to mention occasionally something outside the classical repertoire (usually seems to be "[[Wikipedia:Hotel California (song)|Hotel California]]" or "[[Wikipedia:Grace Kelly (song)|Grace Kelly]]").

I am also fluent in [[Wikipedia:German language|German]] and enjoy speaking it whenever I can (as some of you may have guessed, my user name is a direct translation of the name "Homestar Runner"). Many on the Wiki believe I am German, and sometimes I wish I could tell them that I am. But it's just not the case: I was born and raised in the United States of America and have never lived in Germany.

Since I started coming to China in 2006, I've started learning [[Wikipedia:Chinese language|Chinese]], too. I'm not fluent as yet, but I get many, many opportunities to practice here in China, so many that I start to feel like my German has fallen by the wayside. China and its culture and history have become yet another fascination of mine, so I suppose I'm in the right place these days.

I used to do a couple of contests on my userpage. I haven't done them in quite some time due to time constraints and the fact that the subtitles project has made my first a bit obsolete. Here, at any rate, are all the winners of the contests, whose wins I intend to keep recorded on this page as long as the page itself continues to live:

'''Those who have won cupcakes in my German contest:''' 
[[User:It's dot com|Es ist Dotcom]] (sechsmal) 
[[User:DorianGray|DorischGrau]] (achtmal) 
[[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Kühl]] 
[[User:Mibluvr13|Mibliebhaberin13]] 
[[User:Thunderbird L17|Donnervogel L17]] (viermal) 
[[User:Dacheatbot|Derbetrügerroboter]] 
[[User:Qermaq|Kermacher]] (dreimal) 
[[User:Super Sam|Der Übersam]] 
[[User:Some HSR themed username|Irgendein Benutzername mit einem HSL Thema]] 
[[User:Phlip|Phlipp]] (zweimal) 
[[User:Loafing|Faulenzen]] 
[[User:LordQuackingstick|HerrQuakendzweig]]

'''Previous winners of my opera contest''': [[User:Trey56|Trey56]] (thrice), [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]], [[User:Loafing|Loafing]], [[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]], [[User:The Commander IN COMMAND|The Commander IN COMMAND]]

==My history with H*R and the Wiki==

I first discovered homestarrunner.com in March 2003 when I saw a couple of friends of mine watching various [[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Emails]] (at the time, [[the show]] was the new Email). I remember laughing really hard at [[japanese cartoon]]: I used to have a roommate who liked anime and so the parody of the clichés resonated well with me. After a couple of weeks, I went back and watched all the Strong Bad emails to that date (this time, it was [[spring cleaning]] that made me just about fall out of my chair). That summer, I introduced it to my entire family and hooked all three of my sisters (who often try very hard not to like anything that I like).

I first encountered the Wiki sometime in 2004 or 2005 (I believe I followed a link from [http://www.wikipedia.org Wikipedia]), but I didn't become a regular user until summer of 2005. At that time, I discovered all the awesome things on the Wiki. I first registered sometime around 23 August 2005 because I wanted to vote on [[STUFF]]. For over a month, I remained a redlinked user and only voted in STUFF and occasionally corrected spelling or grammar (albeit anonymously). On 6 October 2005 I finally made a user page and was greeted shortly thereafter by [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] (back when he was called "notstrongorbad") and [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. This was when I began to contribute to the wiki, and Dot com remains a close wiki associate and, more importantly, friend to this day. At first, it was just a little bit here and there, but eventually I became a very active user. I must have done something right, because I was made a sysop on 7 March 2006.

While, alas, no pictures worth posting came out of the event, I'm glad to have had one chance to meet one of my fellow wiki sysops in real life. In early 2008, I made a short trip down to [[Wikipedia:San Diego|San Diego]] to meet [[User:Trey56|Trey56]], who was there briefly. I had a good time showing him around one of my favourite cities in the world.

== My Wikitivities ==
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'''''SADDY DUMPINGTON:''''' ''Some troll decided to celebrate New Year's Day 2006 by vandalizing my user space, and since then it's been vandalized many more times! Isn't that great?!''

I enjoy making sure that the Wiki remains free of defacements and poor edits, and am to that end a member of the Recent Changes Patrol. I've reverted many a vandal edit in my day and have blocked several (or, in my pre-sysop days, informed sysops of them). My most memorable experience fighting vandals occurred when [[User:Lapper|Lapper]], [[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] and I stayed up into the wee hours of the morning of 28 January 2006 stopping an annoying group of sockpuppets.

What else do I do here on the Wiki, you ask? Or maybe you don't ask, but I'm still going to tell you. I vote on STUFF and correct bad spelling and punctuation (some of you should really watch [[local news]] again: Ohh, if-you-want-it-to-be-possessive-it's-just-I-T-S. But-if-it's-supposed-to-be-a-contraction-then-it's-I-T-apostrophe-S. Scalawag.) I also look for various opportunities to add content and to participate in discussions on the wiki. I tend to monitor the [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|featured article selection]] process here on the wiki and make sure it runs smoothly.

== Significant Contributions ==

At least, I think they're significant:

*I created the [[Crapfully Yours]], [[Homestar and Marzipan's Relationship]] and [[DNA Evidence (running gag)]] articles (but, naturally, others have continued to maintain and improve them).
*[[Countries in Strong Badia the Free‎]]. Can't say I did it all, but I did a fair bit of it. One of my favourite articles already.
*Oddly enough, given my dislike for the subject matter, I created the article [[Politics]].
*I transcribed the following DVD commentaries:
**[[Bug In Mouth Disease]]
**[[Biz Cas Fri 2]]
**[[Fluffy Puff Commercial]] (both commentaries)
**[[New Boots]]
**[[Peasant's Quest Preview]]
**[[Puppet Time]]
**[[Senor Mortgage]]
**[[Sick Day]]
**[[Strong Bad Sings]] (some of it had already been transcribed)
**[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] (second commentary)
**[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]
**[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]]
**[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]
**[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]]
**[[The Interview]]
**[[Theme Song Video]]
**[[TrogdorCon '97]]
*And the following toon transcriptions:
**[[death metal]]
**[[Sbemail 150?!?]]
**About three eighths of [[Strongest Man in the World]]
**[[road trip]]
**[[coloring]]
**[[your funeral]]
**[[from work]]
**About half of [[pizza joint]]
**[[web comics]]
**[[love poems]]
**About two thirds of [[Career Day]]

== How do you pronounce Heimstern's name? ==

*Heim- : hime (rhymes with "lime")
*-stern : shtairn ("r" pronounced as a vowel, as some Northeasterners do)
*Läu- : loy (does ''not'' rhyme with "how"!)
*-fer : fah (kind of a mix between "ah" and a schwa)

== Possible translations of other characters' names ==

*Pom pom : Pompon
*Marzipan : Marzipan (P.S.: The word [[Wikipedia:Marzipan|Marzipan]] actually came to English from German)
*Strong Bad: Stark Schlecht
*Strong Mad: Stark Wütend
*Strong Sad: Stark Traurig
*The Cheat: Der Betrüger (although I prefer "Der Cheat")
*Bubs: Bubs (not really translatable)
*Coach Z: Trainer Z ("Z" pronounced "tsett")
*The King of Town: Der König der Stadt
*The Poopsmith: Der Mistschmied
*Homsar: Hemsern

== Some random facts ==

*Current favorite quote: "The Poopsmith, for five hundred points, would care to share with us some of your poliktical views?"
*I have a poster <s>on my wall</s> in storage somewhere that my sister made for me that says "cool tapes!"
*My birthday is the same as the composer [[Wikipedia:Richard Wagner|Richard Wagner]]'s.
*My cousins have a pair of red boxing gloves that resemble Strong Bad's. The first time I tried them on, I naturally decided to try typing with them. No success. I still have no idea [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|how he does it]].

'''ME''': And that's why come Schumann was so awesome.

'''STRONG SAD''': Ohh! I see now!

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== Fourth Wall Breaks? ==

Hey Heimstern, I was just looking around the [[:Category:Articles_needing_cleanup|list of articles that need cleaning-up]] and I noticed that [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] is on there. When you look at its [[Talk:Fourth_Wall_Breaks|talk page]], it says that it's a featured article. Just curious, but why is it a featured article if it's marked for cleanup? -[[User:The Vector Kid|TVK]] 06:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:Well, the problems that need cleanup may have developed after the article was featured, or it may simply be that we noticed problems that we didn't notice at the time of the feature. Note that we aren't quite as strict about the quality of our featured articles as Wikipedia is, also. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::Gotcha. I'm just used to 'kipedia I guess, but thanks for the update!

== Sandbox thing ==

How do I at least get the CODE for my sandbox thing back after that guy got rid of it? Can you please help me? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 04:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:You can find in [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=581704 this] revision. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Yes, thank you. I figured it out. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 04:48, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Incidentally, Heimstern's post there points out a useful feature. Namely, you don't have to keep reverting the sandbox to any particular revision (and getting worked up in the process) in order for GreenHelmet to see it. Just use the permanent link. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:52, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== I should have known... ==

H*Bad was banned here, too. *wry smile* -- Alex H.
:Yes, that's true. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:01, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== German ==

Marshie is saying "You can't destroy me!". I believe it's from the sbmail candy bar. {{User:Ivoj Nob/sig}} 18:49, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. Though that quote had already been translated previously. Still, good work. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:00, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
I speak German. What's that little German contest you got on your userpage? With the language I'm not the best at it, but I could probably live fine in Germany. Es war eine gute Idee sein, daß Homestar Runner in Deutsch als Ihren Benutzernamen. Danke! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 03:46, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:I haven't done the German contest in a while. It was basically something where people guess what lines from toons I've written in German. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:37, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
:Oh I see. Thanks. Also Sie nicht tun ein jederzeit schnell wieder? {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 22:55, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

== Complaint from Homsarstrongbad150 ==

i already told you peoples why i edited my page is because i thought i never got a reply that mike sent and he was clearly online because i saw him edit a page. most people check their e-mail daily. technically, you're not it's dot com, so you weren't asked to not block me, but i had a good reason this time. on top of that, it ''is'' my page, so why should i not be able to edit it. someone get Q over here. he'll agree that thinking the email was missing somewhere in the internet is a good enough reason to post there. and it is MY page. i should be able to use it. get Q over here. he'll agree. we're buds. he's on my [[User:Homsarstrongbad150#cool users list|cool users list]]. y'know what? i'm going to get Q, and i'm going to see what joeyday thinks of you. yeah, that's right. i'm going to the top, asking the big man. this was one edit, do you get it? i think i never got the reply to my email, so i asked, and now i can't use my own talk page for 2 days. so i did try not to post there. i had a legit reason to this time. that was a good question.

"thanks a lot", says {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 03:11, 19 October 2008 (UTC) sarcastically and angrily
:I know perfectly well that you've told us why you edited your talk page. Your reason was not acceptable. The fact that you are having email problems or that Michael did not reply as quickly as you thought he should have does not mean we have to let you use HRWiki as a messaging service. As for your assertion that it's '''your''' talk page, you are entirely mistaken. Your talk page does '''not''' belong to you, it belongs to the entire wiki, and therefore it's subject to all the wiki's guidelines and policies. Your use of your talkpage is a privilege, and, since you abused that privilege, it was revoked. Call for Qermaq, JoeyDay, Tom, whoever to look over my edits and admin actions as much as you want; I believe they stand on their own and that most users will completely understand. You, by contrast, have taken actions that have gotten you blocked for a week. And did you notice that '''no one''' is defending you? That should cause you to think that just maybe '''you''' might be in the wrong, and not me, Phlip, Dot com and others who've warned and taken administrative action against you. Please realize also that if you return to this behaviour after your block is over, you can expect to be blocked again for longer (possibly indefinitely). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::Hate to break it to you, Homsarstrongbad150, but Heimi is 100% in the good here. You were not requested to avoid chat on your user talk if it was convenient - you were told absolutely that a consequence was awaiting further misuse of the talk, and when that happened you got that consequence. There's really no wiggle room here. Specific behavior was expected of you, and you didn't demonstrate it. Hopefully in the next days you can cool off a little and come back prepared to follow the standards, policies and guidelines we all share here in order to make it pleasant for all the users. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:34, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Just wondering... ==

Is referring to someone "n00b" considered flaming? I've been careful to restrain myself, but I was just curious. Something tells me it's not a good idea. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 04:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:I was just going down my user talk page recently and discovered that I left this question unanswered. Sorry about that, I forgot; didn't mean to ignore you or anything. Anyway, I'm not sure "n00b" is always flaming, but it's pretty much never a nice word, so I would advise against using it. "Newbie" can be a nice alternative sometimes, incidentally. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::I actually prefer avoiding calling attention to it altogether - just say "I know this is new for you" or "It's clear you are like me when I first edited a wiki" or something. Particularly with a 'newbie', one should avoid language that might exclude and might telegraph their possible inferiority. They probably feel like an outsider, and the goal is to make them feel like they are welcome to edit as much as any insider. The language we use should reflect that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Just for clarification, I have never referred to anyone as "n00b" on the wiki. I'm a good boy. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 15:33, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Heimy vs. Heimi? ==

I never knew it was "Heimi" instead of "Heimy"? Weird. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 22:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:YES IT IS HEIMI. NO IT IS NOT HEIMY. THANK YOU. xD I prefer to call him Heimi. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 04:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::Umm, yay shouting? And the reason it's "Heimi" is that it's a German name, and therefore follows the German practice of having "i" instead of "y" (which is largely a foreign character in that language). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Mkay. That's all I wanted to hear. Thank you. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 22:06, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

== Signature Phase ==

*Me again, Heimstern! And since I'm at your talk page, I was kind of wondering about replacing my old user shortcut with a signature just to make it look cöoler. Sorry about the "ö" in cooler. So until then, keep up the good work. -[[User:Umlaut76|Umläut76]] 14:01, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
::You could check [[Help:Signature]]; that would probably have more info than I could give you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:40, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Ökäy. - [[User:Umlaut76|Umläut76]]

== User Subpages ==

We should at least be able to make user subpages like fake tv shows or fake tracks, and stuff. Opinion? {{User:Sylar/sig}} 03:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
:No thanks; just wait for the Fanstuff to be back. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:34, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

== Monobook ==

I am having trouble changing the logo on my monobook. {{User:Sylar/sig}} 07:36, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
:I'm afraid I don't really know much about that. There's something about it [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ/9#Personal_Logo_Change|here]], if that helps. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:54, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

==German Contest==

Are you going to be doing another German Contest, I can speak quite a bit of German, for example:

Hallo! Ich heisse Alex! Ich habe am 24 Februar Geburtstag. Ich komme aus Newcastle Upon Tyne. Ich spiele fussball, weil es prima findet, aber ich spiele Schlagzeug, das ist fantastich! Ich habe keine Haustiere, aber ich hatte gern einen hund.

I couldn't get umlauts and please forgive me if my spelling sucks.

({{User:ALJ123456/sig}} 17:02, 9 December 2008 (UTC))
:It's not too bad, really! Viel Spaß beim Wikiing! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:10, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Hallo! ==

HI! Thanks for being so welcoming! I showed the translation of the names to my friend who is also taking german, and likes HR, and she wants to know if there is a transaltion for Sterrance? Thanks!
-Stark Traurig
:I don't think there would be, no. It seems like it's basically just a proper name that wouldn't be translatable (like Bubs). Incidentally, instead of typing out your username, you can write four tildes (like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) and it'll add your name and a link to your userpage. Hope that helps! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:29, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::-Thanks [[User:Stark Traurig|Stark Traurig]] 18:53, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== What the... ==

Why did you revert [[:Image:Hremail.PNG|this image?]] I liked the newer version a lot better. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 01:24, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:I reverted it because you shouldn't have overwritten an existing image with a completely different image, since some people may still want to use the old image. If you want to use the new image, upload it under a completely separate filename. Notice also that Bad Bad Guy is currently using that image on his userpage. By re-uploading that image, you effectively changed his userpage, which I don't think I need to tell you isn't acceptable. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:28, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Accel=sockkie ==

Sylar admitted it on IRC that Accel is a fake. So there. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 05:57, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:Please see my comments on your talk. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:01, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

== double post ==

Sorry about that, not sure how it happened. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:Usually when that happens, it means you hit save a couple times and thus the system registered your post twice. It's especially common if the page takes a long time to load after hitting save: you're like "what's taking so long?" and you hit save again, but actually it already got it the first time, and hitting save again causes a double post. I dunno if that's what happened here. In any case, it's no big deal, as it was easy to revert to one post. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:41, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==
Hey thanks for blocking that Ren Guy. Me and MichealXX2 kept reverting his vandalism till a sysop like you came! Thanks again!-{{User:Record307/sig}} 01:47, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
:No problem. This sort of thing happens sometime (like that one time in '06 when Lapper and I kept reverting an annoying vandal all night after all the sysops went to bed). Keep it up. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:02, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

== Thinking of yooou... ==

Today I saw some kid wearing a sweatshirt that said "HEMI". Like the car or whuteva. And unconciously I think my mind said "HEIMI!!!" really loud and with extra exclamation points. LOL, i felt I just had to share that. xD {{User:Acam30/sig}} 03:46, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
:Huzzah! (Sorry for the delay; was on vacation last weekend and then forgot about this message until now.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

== An extremely important issue ==

Is this [http://wuw.clamburger.org/wiki/Dinoshaur%27s_Revenge legitimate German]?

I have no way to tell because I am German-illiterate but you are my German go-to guy okay - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 06:46, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
:Not sure what this is I'm reading, but to provide a brief analysis: Of course, the ending line and stage direction, being written in English, are not legitimate German. I suspect (would hope!) you already knew this. The opening line, SB's line and The Cheat's line are legitimate German, except the word "basebell", which is neither a legitmate German nor English word, so far as I'm aware. I find Homestar's line very curious. In and of itself, it doesn't make a grammatical or logical sentence, but leave out that "Hallo" at the beginning and throw in a couple umlauts and some better capitalization, and you've got the title of a duet from Mozart's [[Wikipedia:The Magic Flute|The Magic Flute]], "Bei Männern welche Liebe fühlen". How that fits the context of the rest of this work is beyond me. So, there you go. I guess the answer to your original question is "kind of". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

== Sandbox deletion ==

When you deleted the Sandbox, you basically erased eleven thousand edits that I can't get back - I timeout before the undelete page loads. Would have been better just to edit the Sandbox to no longer be a redirect. Too late now (hopefully Dot com can fix it?), but just a heads-up for next time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:11, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
:The deletion was accidental because Phlip and I attempted to revert a move at the same time: the result being that he moved it, and then I accidentally deleted it to make way for a move (an incorrect move, since it had already been made). And yes, we can't do anything about it for now, though I imagine DC should be able to. Incidentally, I've just had an idea that might be appropriate to stop this from happening again. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:15, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
:: Oooohhhhh... my apologies. I didn't read far enough into Recentchanges to fully comprehend what happened. Sorry for making it sound like you did something wrong. But, yeah, turning off moving was a good plan... shame it didn't happen sooner. --{{User:Jay/sig}}
:::Never seemed necessary until this evening, did it? That's always the way; no one realizes what preventative measures they need until the thing that needs preventing occurs. No problem about misreading the situation, by the way; it was rather confusing. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:24, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
:::: I'm concerned. Are the edits salvagable? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 02:42, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Let's wait for DC. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:43, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Who are they? The guys who run Wikia software? Or DC as in Washington? I know you mentioned them, but I want to be clear.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 02:47, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::He means Its dot com. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.49|132.183.138.49]] 02:49, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Okay, thanks. I always abbreviated his name as IDC. Then again, that is internet slang for "I don't care" and then all the stuff gets confused as if he doesn't care and then <big>-Okay, bye</big>--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 02:55, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Forum ==

Yeah, well, I was just really angry that day and I didn't really mean any of that stuff I posted. This probably won't get me unbanned. But, I'm sorry. {{User:Ugozima/sig}} 01:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== DELETION!!!!! ==

HOW DO I DELETE A PAGE!!!!!!!!!! I WANT TO HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![[User:Espemon333|-Espe Pwnage]]
:Only sysops can delete pages. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
::Man, I really wanted to help with that vandal![[User:Espemon333|-Espe Pwnage]]
:::Well, if there are no sysops around, you can use <nowiki>{{delete|Vandalism}}</nowiki> to tag the page. But if there's already a sysop dealing with it, it's not necessary. Also, it's not a good idea to shout and yell when we have vandals around; seeing people react that way may actually make them want to troll even more. If a sysop's around, they'll get to cleaning it up whether you shout or not. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:02, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
::::On a related note, I do hope that you sysops have a way of deleting/surpressing the edits made tonight, since I ''really'' don't want to have those show up in the histories... ick. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 06:04, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I'll mention it to DC; he can do that sort of thing. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== uploads ==

Hey, first of all, thanks for the comment on my talk page. Nice to hear from some old friends. Second, due to my hiatus, I've forgotten how to upload pictures. Can you please give me a refresher course? {{User:LePorello/sig}} 17:54, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
:I may not be the best person to ask that question, since I don't do much with images. Assuming you're using the default skin, the upload file button should be in the toolbox on the left. If you need more help than that, you can ask and I'll get someone to answer your question. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:20, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
::you should ask [[User:The Chort|The Chort]]. he seems to know a lot about it whenever i upload a picture. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 04:25, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== Question about my banning? ==

It is a perma ban, right?

Just wanting to clarify. {{User:Ugozima/sig}} 04:40, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:Mm-hmm. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:44, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::That's bullcrap. {{User:Ugozima/sig}} 07:28, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Opinion noted. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:52, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
::::What is with you trying to suck the fun out of anything? I (unfortunately) requested /b/ to eliminate you. However, I don't think the post went through. {{User:Ugozima/sig}} 08:37, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::From what I've seen, your definition of "fun" seems to be "posting hostile comments". In other words, trolling. Under that definition, I'll gladly suck the fun out of anything. Though before you continue to accuse me or try to get me "eliminated", I remind you that it was not I who banned you from the forum; indeed, it was done before I even saw the topic you made about me. In fact, the admin who banned you was ready to do so when you sent me that hostile PM on 31 July, about a week before your actual banning. He only didn't do so because I asked him not ban you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:48, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I know that you didn't ban me. It's just that since I do not know who banned me. (Nor do I want to know). But the point is, my definition of "fun" is Pokemon and Mario and Kirby and random animated gifs and torturing Sims in The Sims 2 and 3. Does that make me a bad person? Plus, I only "trolled", quotes due to the fact that I believe calling someone a moron isn't trolling someone as they've said it in Homestar cartons, why not here? Like three times. {{User:Ugozima/sig}} 10:09, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Is there a reason we're having this conversation? You haven't asked me to do anything, nor have you brought any substantial discussion of my actions (only a vague reference to my "sucking the fun out of" things). If there's something you want to ask me to do or an action of mine you want to intelligently discuss, please do so. If not, I can't see that there's anything more for us to talk about. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:44, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, there is. From what you said, the admin who banned me wanted to do so due to the hostile PM I sent you. If I recall, the only hostile part of the PM was "Freaking Nazis". Now, that may seem hostile, but as any intelligent person may say (not saying you aren't) when someone is angry, they do things they regret. Like hitting a woman or starting a fight or saying n____. Also, I have received several PMs since I was banned, and since I'm banned I can't read them. {{User:Ugozima/sig}} 10:28, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::You still haven't told me what you want me to do, if anything. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:40, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::I just want to be unbanned to read the PMs. {{User:Ugozima/sig}} 11:06, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::: From what I understand, you called him, or at least someone, a Naiz. If that was because he speaks German, that's actually just as, if not more offensive as the other N word. You are basically putting him down in a way that is frowned upon in most civilized conversation. Nazis were not good people, to say the very very very {goes on for ten minutes} least. To call someone that, even as a joke, is unnaceptable in my opinion. Just wanted to clear that up. This isn't up to me, but I just wanted to say what you did was wrong. I'll leave this to the people who have the happy power to ban people. L%C3%A4ufer, this is up to you. Do your worst. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 12:57, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::I was calling him a Nazi because he was trying to make the forums a serious place of discussion where you aren't allowed to really do anything fun on the forums. Just have serious discussion. Which, works for some forums. Forums for a web cartoon it doesn't. {{User:Ugozima/sig}} 13:06, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::At this point, we're not willing to unban you, sorry. I understand that people do in fact do things in anger that they later regret, such as your sending me that hostile PM, but that doesn't change the fact that people have to live with the consequences of those actions. Furthermore, it was not one offence but several that got you banned: your calling another user a moron and your hostile reply when I told you not to, the "Freaking Nazis" message and your "Go Funk yourself" thread (which, may I point out, you continued to post in after Homestone Wrecker pointed out that it was going to get you into trouble). Lose your temper once, that might be a minor thing; lose it repeatedly, that's different. The fact that you've continued to be hostile in this very thread on my talk hasn't helped your case either. In short, no, we're not unbanning you at this time. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:43, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::That may be, but as you yourself may be presently aware of, I screwed up my grammar in the last sentence. But, as you may know, if my memory serves me right, I made the Nazi comment in the same PM. Now, most, if not all forums, would do it in this order. Calling someone a moron. Warning in a post. Insulting someone in a PM, simply asking what was wrong and why I did it. Telling someone to go Funk Themselves, a warning, and depending on the severity, a temporary banning of up to a month or so. All aside, I just want to read the freaking PMs. {{User:Ugozima/sig}} 13:55, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::What other forums would do is immaterial. We are bound by no forum's convention save our own, and if we're a bit less tolerant of misbehaviour than some others, that is no one's business but our own. As for the PMs, you should have thought of that before you behaved in such a way as to get banned. If you know who sent them to you, have them resend them using another mode of communication. If not, sorry, you're out of luck. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:00, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I didn't want to do this. I have ordered /b/ to place a DoS attack on the forums. Targeted only at you. They may or may not comply with it and effect anyone. I'm sorry. {{User:Ugozima/sig}} 14:08, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Threatening a denial of service attack goes beyond a mere dispute between us. If you threaten the whole site, you are not welcome here, so I've blocked your account indefinitely. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:37, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::: A DoS? Heimstern, you are eligible to call the cops on this guy! He's threatened to hack you and the site! Don't let his threats go unchecked! This guy could crash the site. Could he actually do this? Can we stop him? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 15:26, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::I doubt he'll actually follow through. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 15:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::Man Heimstern, this guy really has something against you! I mean, look at [http://strongbadiathefree.forumotion.com/general-discussion-f2/we-must-get-rid-of-the-heimstern-guy-t50.htm this] and [http://strongbadiathefree.forumotion.com/off-topic-f11/a-discussion-that-was-way-off-topic-and-was-moved-t33.htm this.] (note. On those, ugozima is "Jigglypuff") {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 18:43, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::Denial of Service?{{User:Espemon333/sig}} 22:24, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::Espemon, see [[Wikipedia:Denial-of-service attack|the Wikipedia article]] on this subject. Jellote, I'm fairly sure we're not calling the cops on an empty threat like Ugozima's. Everyone: This thread doesn't need to continue. It's over now. Ugozima is no longer welcome here, and I really don't especially care what he says about me on other forums. Let's end this discussion now. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:03, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== Drama on IRC - I need an adult ==

Could you please ban the user Jicem from the #hrwiki-fanstuff channel? He's been really annoying to all of us for months now and we'd just like a bit of peace. Here's a sample:

<Jicem> Until the Industrial Revolution, it wasn't easy to pick all that cotton and those crops

<Jicem> They needed help

He is talking about slavery. He's also been constantly ranting and raving about his extremely conservative agenda, even after we've requested him to stop. I know you don't have ops on that channel, but could you put in a word for us with the higher ups? That'd be swell. -- {{User:NachoMan/sig}} 19:44, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:Um, NachoMan, I know I didn't look good when I started out, but if you read all the logs, you know that I was giving a reasonable opinion. Plus, no one ever told me to stop, they just flamed and threatened me. {{User:HRjcm/sig}} 00:35, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::First, for the record, I've spoken to NachoMan on IRC about this matter, and I believe that I've done everything I can on the matter. Secondly, as a general and purely advisory remark, I'd suggest we all be more sensitive about what we say '''and''' that we all do everything we can not to be easily offended. That's about all I have now. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:23, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== Oops! ==

Can you rename [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Espemon333/Nomination&rcid=637512 this.] I forgot to add the [User:] in front of it. {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 00:34, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
:Please see my comment on your talk. In this case, it's not an issue because that page isn't allowed, anyway. In the future, if you need to rename a page, you can use the "move" tab at the talk of the page. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:41, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Ok. As long as the contest stays. Get it gone, {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 00:44, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

== Comment ==

That comment that you reverted was a big embarrassment for me. I don't want to show those people who read through talk page archives, and I don't want to look at it every time I look at that archive. --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 01:15, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:Then I suggest contacting the user who owns that talk page in private and asking him to remove it himself. And besides. How often do people read old talk page archives? {{User:Elcool/sig}} 05:40, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::What Elcool said, pretty much. It's not something for you to remove once it's been answered and even archived; instead, it needs to be the person who "owns" the archive. I don't think it should be that big an embarrassment; we all make mistakes from time to time, and most people who read it (which, as Elcool observes, is likely very few people, anyway) will likely chalk it up as a newbie error. And we've all made those. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:29, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

== Heim (~dac0358e@wikipedia/Heimstern) Quit (K-Lined) ==

come back Heim, we miss you already - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 03:37, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:This sort of thing happens sometimes because I'm on a public webchat. I gather some other dork-on using it starts spamming, and to stop him, they have to temporarily kill the whole thing. I'm back now. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:14, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

== Notes from Maudi ==

Hi, Heimstern Läufer!

A user named Druelselstein X2000 wants to "improve" those orders of [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad's]] and [[The Cheat|The Cheat's]] commentaries on [[Main Page 15]], and I don't care if that guy's doing at this situation, like messing up with Homestar Runner Wiki. But he wants to ''improve'' the orders of [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad's]] and [[The Cheat|The Cheat's]] commentaries on [[Main Page 15]]. I dare not agree with that user, and I only want [[Main Page 15]] as it is. So... look out with Druelselstein X2000, he can sometimes mess up with Homestar Runner Wiki, but I just don't care of how those orders of [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad's]] and [[The Cheat|The Cheat's]] commentaries on [[Main Page 15]] is, but it doesn't make any sense for us, especially me. So now you are with me also, Heimstern Läufer! :)

--[[User:Maudi Algabban|Maudi Algabban]] 12:29, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

== Summary  ==

For some reason, I really liked your "no Lappy in this email" edit summary! I might like it because of "no Lappy." --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 17:32, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:Happy to entertain. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:47, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

==Sig Fix==
It's not mine, but [[User:Power Pie/sig|this guy's sig]] doesn't "finish", per say, and now whenever that sig is used, everything after it turns into the same color font. Could you fix it? --[[User:Essence of Ghost Water|Essence of Ghost Water]] 12:31, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:Never mind, DeFender fixed it. --[[User:Essence of Ghost Water|Essence of Ghost Water]] 12:34, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
::Yup. Incidentally, my talk probably isn't the best place for this sort of issue in the future because I'm pretty much coding-illiterate. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 12:41, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh. Well, since there's no way of telling who's on, you're the only sysop I knew that was online. --[[User:Essence of Ghost Water|Essence of Ghost Water]] 12:47, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== 700,000 Revision WAS Removed... ==

[http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=700000 this link] says so. Put in a 1 instead of the last zero and you'll see this is an actual way to see any revision, so I'm not making stuff up. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 08:51, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:Assuming that diff ever existed, it wasn't removed by any admin or editorial action, so there's nothing we can do. Besides, as I think you pointed out on your talk, the 700,000th edit is kind of a trivial matter, anyway. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:55, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
::Cold Reactive - i think Heimstern already knows about that. i don't think the edit itself was removed. It appears to take two edits to move a page, and then two more to move a talk page. so 699999 and 700000 were combined into one edit, unfortunately numbered 699999, and 700000 was no longer usable. The same thing happened between edits 700011 and 700016. w/e; i'm sure HL can give you a better answer than i can. HL, anything you'd like to add/correct to that? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 09:01, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually, no, I've nothing more to add. Your answer may be correct; I dunno. I actually have fairly limited knowledge of the inner workings of MediaWiki; I just know how to click the right buttons to keep the place running properly. The developers probably know why, but I'm disinclined to ask them over a trivial matter like this. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:10, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Self-blocking ==

How do you feel, blocking yourself after nearly five years of a clean block log? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 03:11, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:Pretty much the same way I felt before. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:13, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
::Also, there's a question for you on the Main Page's talk page. And on a side note, are you planning on going to Germany sometime? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 00:49, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I don't really have an answer to your question on talk:Main; I don't really remember things like why exactly I punctuated something exactly how I did, and it's not like anyone needs to know, anyway. (You may recall that it's been mentioned in the past that you ask too many "why" questions that have no answers, this is another one of those.) As for Germany, someday, I hope. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:57, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== Spyware ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=retirement&diff=prev&oldid=709591 Did you get some spyware on your machine?] Might wanna clean that up. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
:I'll be sure to have a look into it. We've got top men working on it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
::Well, I found the problem. Looks like somebody tried to cram-a-lam an egg-roll into the disk drive. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 14:04, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Turns out it's not spyware, it's just a [http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=626143 bug in Skype]. An [http://www.google.com/search?q=begin_of_the_skype_highlighting absurdly prevalent] bug in Skype. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

== Spammer ==

I need you to block [[User_talk:64.126.115.221|this]] user. he edited [[User:The New Uzi-Bazooka|The New Uzi-Bazooka]]'s page. I talked to him about it and told him I'd get a sysop to block him. Can you do this for me. Thanks, {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:53, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:Wasd98 - 1. This happened six months ago, and The New Uzi-Bazooka never complained about it, so while I am in no position to make executive decisions around here, i wouldn't worry about it if I was in such a position. 1½. The New Uzi-Bazooka edited his user page three minutes later. This leads me to believe that that ip could be The New Uzi-Bazooka logged out. Though we do enforce the policy that you must log in to edit your user page. 2. for future reference, it wasn't a spam attack. 3. is there a reason you put this thread here instead of in Heimstern Läufer's current talk page?
:HL - i'm not telling you what to do in #1; do whatever you feel is right for the situation. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 04:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, I have nothing to add to what Knights has said. Spot on in all respects. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

== WhyYyYyYyYyYy you made Dorian Gary? ==

Why you put Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns as a subpage of Dorian Gary? It Make Nonsense {{unsigned|Lucsar|19:59, 6 May 2011}}
:Please see [[User_talk:DorianGray/Analysis_of_Homsar's_Speech_Patterns#Let.27s_take_this_in_another_direction|this discussion]], in which there was a solid consensus against retaining the article. Since people found it interesting, though not article-worthy, it was moved into the userspace. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

== My subpages ==

Please delete all my userspace except my user page and talk page. Kthxbai. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 13:15, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

== Book on Wikipedia ==

Hi I liked [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Heimstern/ArbCom this] and other essays about the great wiki. I'm some way through a [http://www.logicmuseum.com/x/index.php?title=Wikipedia_through_the_Looking_Glass book about Wikipedia]. I would welcome any of your thoughts for one of the chapters. It begins with the block of WorldTraveller (remember him?) and takes us through the whole problem of how you judge the quality of content by behaviour alone. [[Special:Contributions/81.132.20.89|81.132.20.89]] 15:10, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
:Hi there. Thanks for the compliments! But since this isn't Wikipedia, it's not really appropriate to have this conversation here. If you want to keep talking about it, we should do so at Wikipedia. Thanks again! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:21, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

Heimstern Läufer — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:30:00 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* Week before Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 17-23) */ just for clarity

{{shortcut|FAS||[[FAS]]}}
Welcome to '''[[HRWiki:Featured articles|featured article]] selection'''. Please help us choose and create write-ups for our best, most interesting, or otherwise noteworthy articles to appear on the [[main page]]. For ideas, check out the [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations|featured article nominations]]. For drafts, see [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts|this page]].

==Checklist==
{{talkchecklist|Checklist for new Featured Article:|noeditsection=true}}
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
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==Discussion archives==
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 1-10 |2006, Weeks 1-10]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 21-30|2006, Weeks 21-30]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 1-10 |2007, Weeks 1-10]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 21-30|2007, Weeks 21-30]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 41-52|2007, Weeks 41-52]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 1-10 |2008, Weeks 1-10]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 21-30|2008, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 31-40|2008, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 41-52|2008, Weeks 41-52]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 1-10 |2009, Weeks 1-10]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 21-30|2010, Weeks 21-30]]
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[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/General Discussion|Other Discussion]] |
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Stalled Discussions Archive 1|Stalled Discussions Archive 1]]
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==Featured Article Queue==
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{{FA queue| 8 Oct 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Kid Speedy}}

{{FA queue|22 Oct 2012 |Bad Graphics Ghost}}
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===Redirects===
This is a placeholder topic for 5-year redirects. Due to overall decreased activity, FAs are now being reused more often. The common practice has become to redirect to the FA exactly 5 years prior to the current FA. When an article is re-used, mark it in the following manner:
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{{FA queue|<date>|Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=<article name>}}
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Please keep this discussion in the FA page at all times, but do copy it to archive pages as well.

=== [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] ===

''{{todo}} {{FA|22 Oct 2012}}''

Surprised it was never featured; also, it was once accidentally bolded on the nominations page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
:This will be nice to feature next year for Halloween. Second'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
::I think we should hold this one off until Halloween next year as well. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 18:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I approve of a Hallow's Eve '12 feature. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 23:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
::::I'm guessing you guys mean the week ''before'' Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, week before. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 13:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::I made a [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|draft]] of a Bad Graphics Ghost FA. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
While I understand that you guys want to feature this for the week before 'Ween, I intended this one as a feature for any time. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 20:16, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Then you're going to be annoyed at Halloween FA reruns if we do this ASAP. At least by waiting, you'll get one new Halloween FA this year that is if FAS isn't put on hiatus by that time. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::I also think this will make a fine feature for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:29, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
:::You know what, I've changed my mind. I don't think this should be featured at all if it's going to conflict with the suggestions that I have in mind for Ween. And like I said, I intended this one to be featured any time. Also, the week of Ween is specifically for the big toons. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:15, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
::::RickTommy, you're not approaching this the right way. You're talking about it conflicting with "the suggestions that '''I''' have in mind for Ween" and how "'''I''' intended this one to be featured at any time" (emphasis mine). What you think is scarcely the point. It's what the community thinks that matters, and they clearly think this article should be featured the week before Halloween. If it's against your plans, I'm sorry, that's rough. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::Actually Soiled Bargains, Defender, and I wanted this for Halloween week. Rick was the one that stated that everyone wanted it before Halloween when actually only Power Pie wanted it for before Halloween. So technically this doesn't have consensus. I'll move this out of the queue. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::Could we please have clarification on this? I assumed when people said "Halloween" they meant "the Halloween season", not specifically that week. Since we do indeed nearly always feature a full-length toon on Halloween itself, and I don't really see why it would be different this year. Are people fine with making this the week before Halloween? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm cool with this being the week before, though I see no reason for it not to be the week of, especially in a Hiatus where there is not an unlimited supply of big halloween toons. Also, Ngamer, there IS consensus to feature, we even have consensus as to roughly when to feature, just not clear on which of the two proposed weeks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:You're right that there's not an unlimited supply of big toons, but there ''are'' some left that haven't been featured, and I think at least one is highly deserving of being featured. In fact, from what I can see, we still have three more years before we'd run out. And there is tradition: while I know that "we've always done it" isn't in and of itself a valid reason, all other things being equal, there's a lot to be said for sticking to tradition. And I for one am in favour of keeping our big toon tradition. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::Fair enough. Let's stick with the week before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::I guess I hadn't explained well my reasons from earlier. I mean I know there is consensus for this to be featured, but there was no consensus on when to feature and without that, this had to be moved out of the queue until consensus on when to feature was reached...which is now. I guess if Halloween FA week is for big Halloween toons only, I guess I'm fine with Bad Graphics Ghost being a lead-in to the actual Halloween FA week. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 19:11, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::I know this is a done deal but I also wanted to give my support for the week before halloween (week 43 as stated). Even if we run out of big toons to feature I think we can rerun old big toons in the coming years. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

==Article discussions==
===[[Carol]]===
An important item/pseudocharacter. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:Could be cute. I'd have to see a good writeup before i'm convinced. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Carol|Here's]] a good write-up. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure i'd call it a "good" writeup... Seems rather disjointed to me. Comes off sounding like "In this toon, this happened. In this totally unrelated instance, this happened. In this third place, something else entirely." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:11, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::::I tried to rewrite the draft. I don't know if this works, but I do hope it'll help get this to a more wanted final version. I'd like to see a final version of this before I'll offer my support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 00:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::I fixed one point to make it more accurate, but it still strikes me as lacking. Is there any way we could spruce it up a bit more? I can't quite put my finger on what i think is missing, which is a shame. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::I don't know what it is that you think is missing, either. But I have somewhat improved the draft. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 15:49, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Halloween (Oct 29-Nov 4)===
[[Halloween Fairstival]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:Sure why not. Support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::Since this'll be October 29... how about [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]? It'll be ten years old to the day (Oct 29/02 - Oct 29/12) ...just another idea. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 17:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
:::First of all, [[weclome]] back, Bupkis. Where have you been for the past year and a half? Second of all, Carve-nival has already been featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay. Also, I haven't been very active here lately, with the hiatus and what not... I guess when sbemail206 rolls around things will pick up :p {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 22:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::So, you support Fairstival, right? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Strong Sad's iPod]]===
I'm feeling a little random and want to feel less hypocritical, so I'd like to throw this out as an suggestion. SS's iPods were seen on [[Podstar Runner 2006]] and it's last incarnation [[Podstar Runner]], so the iPod was important in the past. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
:Support, I guess. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::I've got [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Strong Sad's iPod|a draft]] up for review and fixing if it'll help any. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::I think it needs to be reworded to make it clear that strong sad has had many ipods over the years, rather than talking about "strong sad's ipod" as a singular item. I like the idea of this as a feature, the writeup just needs significant improvement before i put in my complete support. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:32, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've improved it as best I can. Can I put it in the queue now? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} <s>14:37, 2 October 2012 (UTC)</s> 05:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Thanksgiving (Nov 19-25)===
[[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-Cards]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I never liked that one. Personally, I'd suggest re-featuring [[Let us give TANKS!]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::Didn't even realize that TANKS would have been the default rerun for this anyway. Also, to be clear, when I say re-feature, I don't necessarily mean using the same writeup, since it might be nice to expand it now that we're far less worried about giving spoilers. The old one also seems a bit dry as compared to the writeups we tend to do nowadays. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:41, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
:::Less concerned about spoilers how? What exactly do you think should be added to the old writeup? I certainly don't think the ending with the nuclear device should be revealed on the main page; I think the ending gag definitely needs to remain a surprise. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
::::What I meant by less concerned about spoilers was... not important. I think I was thinking of something else which in my fully awake state doesn't make nearly as much sense as it did last night when I wrote that. Anyway, I'd expand the writeup somewhat to be a little less dry and more fun, and have a few more details. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

===Week <s>before</s> after Halloween <s>(Oct 22-28)</s> (Nov 5-11)===
I know that week is reserved for [[Bad Graphics Ghost]], but I'd like to go ahead and propose the article that I had in mind for that week: [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:We already achieved consensus for something else, and I don't see any reason to change just to accommodate one user's plans to the contrary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::I wholeheartedly agree! Routinely using subterfuge to undermine the FA process is underhanded and borders on the conniving. The FA proccess is a team effort and not a one-man show. Ricktommy, you knew the group made a decision and arrived at consensus yet you unilateraly decide that your way is better and somehow try to find a way to prod or manipulate your way into having everyone else follow your whim. This isn't how consensus works and you've routinely have had issues where you poke, prod and complain your way through the system just so what you want is featured. If not then you make suggestions weeks, if not months in advance long before anyone else even gets a chance to even consider thinking about possibly suggesting a feature somewhere, somehow. In the end your features end up dominating the system if we don't keep you in check. This has the negative effect of turning potential contributors away from FA. I ask that you show more courtesy for fellow editors and respect for the HRWiki community in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Also MAM 7 is rather weak and uninteresting. It wouldn't make a good feature in my opinion. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Well, can we feature it the week after Ween instead? And Ngamer, I completely disagree. I'll draft a write-up soon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::We generally do two features for Halloween, and I don't see why that should be changed this year just to accommodate one user's desires. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well, let me just say that it was that same user who suggested Bad Graphics Ghost in the first place. If he - that is to say, I - hadn't suggested BGG, would it still have been put in the queue for the week before 'Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I don't see how that matters. The source of the suggestion is irrelevant here; only what the community decides to do with those suggestions matters. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I also agree. I see no reason to change our methods here. Typical functioning in the world is that leading up to a holiday, as well as the holiday itself, is the holiday season. Once the holiday is over, no one cares about the holiday anymore until next year, and have already moved on to the next holiday. I mean, on November 5th, will you still be adding more skeletons, jack-o-lanterns, and witches brüe to your house decorations, or will you begin taking them down and replacing them with turkeys, pilgrim hats, and those fruit-filled horn thingies? If the former, I will gladly send you a calendar, because it seems you are in dire need of one. If the latter, then consider the fact that what you are suggesting is the wiki equivalent of putting up your spooky decorations almost a week after halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:14, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

===Two weeks before Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 10-16)===
Since we had a re-run for the week before D'ween last year, I think that we should make up for it by doing three D'ween articles this year. For this week, [[Snowglobe]], the article that was suggested for the week before D'ween last year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I see no reason to do three this year just because one was a rerun last year. I also am not sure there's enough to say about snowglobe to feature. It's pretty much just a dumb snowglobe with a timer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with DeFender on both points. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week before Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 17-23)===
[[Homestar and the Nice Present]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I propose a bit of a bolder move, and do a set of dailies from [[Decemberween In July]]. Most of them have already been featured on their own, but it'd be nice to see these featured all together. It'd include the above suggestion as well as a couple of other toons that haven't been featured yet. Here's the order i'd propose, with a star next to those that have been featured already (we can reuse the writeups for those):
:*Day 1 — [[Decemberween In July]] (To introduce the week)
:*Day 2 — [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 6]]*
:*Day 3 — [[That Time of Year]]*
:*Day 4 — [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]*
:*Day 5 — [[Homestar and the Nice Present]]
:*Day 6 — [[Seasonal Sweaters]]
:*Day 7 — [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]*
:{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::That set of dailies sounds like a fun idea! I support it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 24-30)===
[[A Decemberween Mackerel]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:Nah, i kinda hate mackarel. Senor Cardgage isn't at all his usual self, and the whole toon just makes me feel like TBC had waited so long to make one that they forgot how to actually create a homestar toon. Kinda like star wars episode 1. [[A Death-Defying Decemberween]] is a much better choice. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::Aww, I like Decemberween Mackerel! I don't think SC's any more out of character than we would expect for someone feeling the effects of hypothermia. Then again, I also like Death-Defying D'ween. I could go for either here. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:29, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

== Discussions of Articles Needing Expansion ==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, per consensus, require further expansion of the article itself before the article should be featured.''

==Stalled Discussions==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, due to lack of consensus or consensus against, are not ready to be featured at this time. ''

=== [[Visor Robot]] ===
''An important minor character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:27, 7 December 2011 (UTC)''
:''"Important" in what way? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:55, 7 December 2011 (UTC)''
::''[[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|I made a draft]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)''
:::Well, it's important in that the Wiki gave it that name and the Brothers Chaps decided to use the name themselves, as an [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgements|acknowledgement]]. And nice write-up, G-guy. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Meh. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

=== [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgements]] ===
I mean, don't you just like it when the Brothers Chaps acknowledge this Wiki? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I do enjoy when that happens, true, but would such a writeup be anything more than a laundry list of the more prominent instances of this? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::After seeing the attempt at a draft, I am now convinced that there is not enough tying it all together to provide a cohesive writeup. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe]] ===
''An interesting topic. TBC stated that it doesn't bother them, so it it would be ok to feature. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.85.97|93.207.85.97]] 13:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)''
:''Featuring an article that has an incomplete template on it? I think not. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 08:06, 6 February 2011 (UTC)''
::''The thing is that this article will likely never be fully completed, considering that some of the inconsistencies at times can be very small. I completely support this article. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 10 February 2011''
:::''I support to! {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 02:09, 28 February 2011 (UTC)''
::::''Oh, I didn't notice the Incomplete Notice when I suggested it. I see how that would normally keep an article from being featured. But like doctorwho said, this is an article that will probably never be considered complete and I think it can be featured in the current state. I would however accept it if it is decided against it. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.86.183|93.207.86.183]] 10:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)''
:::::''I'm with SMB. Featured articles should be examples of the fine work of the wiki. If it's incomplete, it's not really a good specimen of our work. And to those who say it'll never complete, I say that if so, it'll never be suitable for featuring. And some articles never are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)''
::::::But [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], [[Marzipan and Coach Z's Relationship]], and [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]] have incomplete templates on them, and they got featured. Either way, this article not only has a long enough intro, but starts with not one, but ''two'' quotes. So I support it too. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Those pages are somewhat more clear-cut than this one is though. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Here's why I think this article should not be featured: although all four articles have an "Incomplete Notice" that doesn't paint the full picture. The three articles listed above ([[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], [[Marzipan and Coach Z's Relationship]], and [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]]) can be considered to be fairly objective lists. We actually can get authoritative sources (such as the laws of various states and the federal district for "crimes" and "shady business", and toon transcripts for the "relationship" article where Marzipan and Coach Z appear and interact) that make it clear what goes in each article leaving only a small amout of room for disagreements. If we wanted to, the HRWiki community could ensure that all toons have been covered and remove the tags. We haven't because this is a laborious process. While we believe we've probably caught most, if not all, instances of the topic in question in each article, we can't know with 100% certainty that we've covered everything. So to be safe that "incomplete" tag is there until we can know for sure (see [[Talk:The_Geddup_Noise#Gettup_Noise_Approved|the geddup noise talk page]]).
::::::::On the other hand, the "inconsistencies" article is reasonably more subjective, there is no clear guide that defines what goes in the article (except perhaps {{pl|l=http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inconsistency webster's dictionary}}), and what's worse, even if there were an objective meter we'd have to check every action in every toon against ''all other actions in all other toons and material'' if we even want to consider this list to be complete! Like Heim said, "Featured articles should be examples of the fine work of the wiki" and it's hard to place "inconsistencies" in that category. While the article covers an interesting topic, the subjective and loosely defined nature of this work makes it somewhat speculative and even presumes that [[The Brothers Chaps]] are omniscient beings. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:42, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Thanks for the lengthy response. But I would just like to point out that no-one except myself has addressed the well-written intro, which I think should be the major factor here. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::I'll address it. It's not a factor when weighed against all the other objections raised. It's got a great intro, and I personally happen to really like that page, but when compared to the other great lists on the wiki such as [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]], [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], and [[Coach Z's Problems]], it just doesn't doesn't live up. Aside from those other pages being itemized, organized, and categorized, the most important thing, even if the inconsistencies page were all those things, is the inherent inability to maintain reasonable objectivity when it comes to what counts. I'd go even further as to say that it's a bad example because TBC don't really try to maintain much consistency when it comes to most of the things that get put on that page. Locations of landmarks, ages and life status of characters, even some of their knowledge. Other things on that list are questionable, such as "Strong Sad tells Strong Bad he never heard of Limozeen, but they watched Limozeen: "but they're in space!" together in best thing." are just kind of like "okay, so if i watched some weird show i didn't care about once with my brother who hates me, i also wouldn't necessarily remember the name of the show or the characters." Yes, the intro is very well-worded and contains one quote from Matt and another from Strong Sad, but the list itself, which is the main information set being documented by the article, is not up to par. Remember, "featured '''articles'''" are not "featured intros", and having a good intro to a list is just not enough. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Scroll Button Songs]]===
Surprised it was never featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:There isn't much to say. It's mostly a list. It would be difficult to make this into a cohesive FA. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:15, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::EC'd: I agree with stux. I'm not convinced there's enough to write up. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:42, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::After seeing the attempt at a draft, I am now convinced that there is not enough information outside of the list itself to provide a cohesive writeup. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[homestarrunner.com]]===
It's been nominated several times before. That is all. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:What's there to say about it in a feature though? It's the domain on which most of the toons appear. Is there any more to be said? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Nicknames]]===
Another frequently edited article. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:It may be frequently edited, but the article is one giant list with a simple intro. I say no to this. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::I'll add my opinion of "no" for pretty much the same reasons as Ngamer said. I'd also add that, like the inconsistencies, it's rather subjective what constitutes a "nickname". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Bad Email]]s (daily feature) ===
Since our recent daily was done a very long time after the previous daily, I think that we should make up for it by doing another daily rrll rrll soon. My theme for this daily is Strong Bad Emails from the second half of the [[Tandy]] era. I go for these seven emails: [[little animal]], [[CGNU]], [[superhero name]], [[gimmicks]], [[weird dream]], [[dullard]], and [[vacation]]. I have drafted write-ups for all seven of them (see the drafts page). {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 11:10, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
:RickTommy - for at least the fourth time, "we're running out of featurable articles too fast to merit doing any dailies right now." I'd say we should wait until the chaps are back regularly for at least a year before we do another daily. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Meet Marshie]] ===
We've featured [[Malloween Commercial]], so how about featuring the original? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:30, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

===[[FAQ]]===
An important page on the site. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:Can we manage a writeup of this? There's no prose introduction to speak of, so it'd have to be some sort of summary. I'm not at all sure you'd be able to get enough content out of the FAQ page to make a proper main page writeup. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::I think we'll be able to do an introduction of this. I support nomination. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 21 February 2011
:::I missed that this page had been "slated" to feature this week despite inadequate consensus for featuring. There is reasonable question whether there enough material to feature. This cannot be featured until an adequately-long FA has been made. I'd suggest writing one to show that there is and then featuring it on a different week. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
:I made a big draft of the FA. [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|Click hear!]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
::And a good thing it's big, too. It addresses the concerns about the article being difficult to make a write-up out of. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:::A proper sized writeup is good to reach, but I don't think FAQ is interesting enough for a feature. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::::I agree with ngamer. Really not very interesting. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

===[[Legal]]===
An important page, since it can be accessed from the Navbar. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 09:09, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think this has enough content to feature. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:00, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
::Correction: The wiki page has too much content to feature. [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|Here is proof!]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
:::You may want to trim that writeup down. We want to give viewers a small sample of what the article is about. Not shove an entire article on the front page. =P — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've done so. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:06, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
:::::Now the question remains is that is Legal interesting enough for a feature? I'm leaning toward no myself. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 14:05, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::I agree with NGamer, the [[HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection/Drafts#Legal|FA article draft]] pretty much just relays 90% of the page content. There just really isn't enough in this page to make a good FA out of it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Correction: it had 90% of the page content before it was shortened. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Whether the writeup is the majority of the page content or not, I just don't think a page with a bunch of legal stuff is worth featuring. The only thing interesting that happens is homestar saying "bo-wing" which pretty much sums up what it would be like to feature it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

=== [[The Announcer]] ===
An important minor character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 03:19, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
:Yes he is important. I scribbled down a draft [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|here]]. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
::That draft is the entire article, and it's got grammatical errors and NPOV issues to boot. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:::You mean the entire intro of the article, and what are the errors and issues, exactly? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::::No, i mean the entire article. The character evolution section doesn't count, as those tend to be separate pages for the more common characters. It's only part of the article for him since he's not big enough to have a series of pages devoted to him, and his appearance has evolved a lot. As for the issues, "rarely actually", "we know little of him", etc. I corrected as much as I could in the main article, but I still don't think it's worth featuring. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Doreauxgard]] ===
Another important pseudo-character. (Man, I hate sounding repetitive.) {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:46, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Doreauxgard|Here's]] a write-up that G-man drafted. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
::Important how? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

===[[The Cheat's Gold Tooth]]===
''How about featuring TC's tricked-out grill. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.13.68|132.183.13.68]] 18:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)''
:''Maybe. It's not that significant but it's long enough. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)''
::''Unfortunately, I think this is one of those articles that should be expanded a little before featuring. (Alternatively, if a writeup is made that expands on the topic, it can also be placed in the queue that way). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)''
:::I've drafted an adequate write-up. ([[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#The Cheat's Gold Tooth]]) {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
::::The writeup is long enough, but i don't think the topic is really all that interesting to feature. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:21, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

===[[your friends]]===
We've featured a Sbemail [in mid-late July] for the last couple of years. How about [[your friends]], the first email for which I had drafted a write-up? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
:I don't see any reason to stick to a pattern which has no basis aside from happenstance. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:36, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::I don't think this would make a good feature. I mean it's just Strong Bad going to hurt his "friends". Not really interesting outside SB leaving The Poopsmith alone because his crappy job probably gives him a high pain tolerance. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

===[[Compé]]===
I was thinking of saving it until sbemail206 is released, but at the rate the site is going, it probably won't be released. So I guess we should feature it soon, even though it's not developed (no pun intended) and it lacks appearances. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:It's too soon for this to be featured even if it is SB's first GUI-based computer with rotating wallpapers. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
::Agree with Ngamer. It's not developed enough. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

==General discussion==

===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

[[Category:Featured article maintenance|Selection]]

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

Heimstern Läufer — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:29:03 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* Week of Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 24-30) */ comment

{{shortcut|FAS||[[FAS]]}}
Welcome to '''[[HRWiki:Featured articles|featured article]] selection'''. Please help us choose and create write-ups for our best, most interesting, or otherwise noteworthy articles to appear on the [[main page]]. For ideas, check out the [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations|featured article nominations]]. For drafts, see [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts|this page]].

==Checklist==
{{talkchecklist|Checklist for new Featured Article:|noeditsection=true}}
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
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==Discussion archives==
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 1-10 |2006, Weeks 1-10]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 1-10 |2008, Weeks 1-10]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 1-10 |2009, Weeks 1-10]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 1-10 |2010, Weeks 1-10]]
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 1-10 |2011, Weeks 1-10]]
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=== [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] ===

''{{todo}} {{FA|22 Oct 2012}}''

Surprised it was never featured; also, it was once accidentally bolded on the nominations page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
:This will be nice to feature next year for Halloween. Second'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
::I think we should hold this one off until Halloween next year as well. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 18:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I approve of a Hallow's Eve '12 feature. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 23:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
::::I'm guessing you guys mean the week ''before'' Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, week before. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 13:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::I made a [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|draft]] of a Bad Graphics Ghost FA. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
While I understand that you guys want to feature this for the week before 'Ween, I intended this one as a feature for any time. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 20:16, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Then you're going to be annoyed at Halloween FA reruns if we do this ASAP. At least by waiting, you'll get one new Halloween FA this year that is if FAS isn't put on hiatus by that time. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::I also think this will make a fine feature for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:29, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
:::You know what, I've changed my mind. I don't think this should be featured at all if it's going to conflict with the suggestions that I have in mind for Ween. And like I said, I intended this one to be featured any time. Also, the week of Ween is specifically for the big toons. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:15, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
::::RickTommy, you're not approaching this the right way. You're talking about it conflicting with "the suggestions that '''I''' have in mind for Ween" and how "'''I''' intended this one to be featured at any time" (emphasis mine). What you think is scarcely the point. It's what the community thinks that matters, and they clearly think this article should be featured the week before Halloween. If it's against your plans, I'm sorry, that's rough. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::Actually Soiled Bargains, Defender, and I wanted this for Halloween week. Rick was the one that stated that everyone wanted it before Halloween when actually only Power Pie wanted it for before Halloween. So technically this doesn't have consensus. I'll move this out of the queue. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::Could we please have clarification on this? I assumed when people said "Halloween" they meant "the Halloween season", not specifically that week. Since we do indeed nearly always feature a full-length toon on Halloween itself, and I don't really see why it would be different this year. Are people fine with making this the week before Halloween? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm cool with this being the week before, though I see no reason for it not to be the week of, especially in a Hiatus where there is not an unlimited supply of big halloween toons. Also, Ngamer, there IS consensus to feature, we even have consensus as to roughly when to feature, just not clear on which of the two proposed weeks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:You're right that there's not an unlimited supply of big toons, but there ''are'' some left that haven't been featured, and I think at least one is highly deserving of being featured. In fact, from what I can see, we still have three more years before we'd run out. And there is tradition: while I know that "we've always done it" isn't in and of itself a valid reason, all other things being equal, there's a lot to be said for sticking to tradition. And I for one am in favour of keeping our big toon tradition. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::Fair enough. Let's stick with the week before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::I guess I hadn't explained well my reasons from earlier. I mean I know there is consensus for this to be featured, but there was no consensus on when to feature and without that, this had to be moved out of the queue until consensus on when to feature was reached...which is now. I guess if Halloween FA week is for big Halloween toons only, I guess I'm fine with Bad Graphics Ghost being a lead-in to the actual Halloween FA week. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 19:11, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::I know this is a done deal but I also wanted to give my support for the week before halloween (week 43 as stated). Even if we run out of big toons to feature I think we can rerun old big toons in the coming years. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

==Article discussions==
===[[Carol]]===
An important item/pseudocharacter. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:Could be cute. I'd have to see a good writeup before i'm convinced. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Carol|Here's]] a good write-up. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure i'd call it a "good" writeup... Seems rather disjointed to me. Comes off sounding like "In this toon, this happened. In this totally unrelated instance, this happened. In this third place, something else entirely." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:11, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::::I tried to rewrite the draft. I don't know if this works, but I do hope it'll help get this to a more wanted final version. I'd like to see a final version of this before I'll offer my support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 00:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::I fixed one point to make it more accurate, but it still strikes me as lacking. Is there any way we could spruce it up a bit more? I can't quite put my finger on what i think is missing, which is a shame. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::I don't know what it is that you think is missing, either. But I have somewhat improved the draft. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 15:49, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Halloween (Oct 29-Nov 4)===
[[Halloween Fairstival]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:Sure why not. Support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::Since this'll be October 29... how about [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]? It'll be ten years old to the day (Oct 29/02 - Oct 29/12) ...just another idea. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 17:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
:::First of all, [[weclome]] back, Bupkis. Where have you been for the past year and a half? Second of all, Carve-nival has already been featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay. Also, I haven't been very active here lately, with the hiatus and what not... I guess when sbemail206 rolls around things will pick up :p {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 22:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::So, you support Fairstival, right? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Strong Sad's iPod]]===
I'm feeling a little random and want to feel less hypocritical, so I'd like to throw this out as an suggestion. SS's iPods were seen on [[Podstar Runner 2006]] and it's last incarnation [[Podstar Runner]], so the iPod was important in the past. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
:Support, I guess. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::I've got [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Strong Sad's iPod|a draft]] up for review and fixing if it'll help any. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::I think it needs to be reworded to make it clear that strong sad has had many ipods over the years, rather than talking about "strong sad's ipod" as a singular item. I like the idea of this as a feature, the writeup just needs significant improvement before i put in my complete support. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:32, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've improved it as best I can. Can I put it in the queue now? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} <s>14:37, 2 October 2012 (UTC)</s> 05:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Thanksgiving (Nov 19-25)===
[[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-Cards]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I never liked that one. Personally, I'd suggest re-featuring [[Let us give TANKS!]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::Didn't even realize that TANKS would have been the default rerun for this anyway. Also, to be clear, when I say re-feature, I don't necessarily mean using the same writeup, since it might be nice to expand it now that we're far less worried about giving spoilers. The old one also seems a bit dry as compared to the writeups we tend to do nowadays. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:41, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
:::Less concerned about spoilers how? What exactly do you think should be added to the old writeup? I certainly don't think the ending with the nuclear device should be revealed on the main page; I think the ending gag definitely needs to remain a surprise. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
::::What I meant by less concerned about spoilers was... not important. I think I was thinking of something else which in my fully awake state doesn't make nearly as much sense as it did last night when I wrote that. Anyway, I'd expand the writeup somewhat to be a little less dry and more fun, and have a few more details. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

===Week <s>before</s> after Halloween <s>(Oct 22-28)</s> (Nov 5-11)===
I know that week is reserved for [[Bad Graphics Ghost]], but I'd like to go ahead and propose the article that I had in mind for that week: [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:We already achieved consensus for something else, and I don't see any reason to change just to accommodate one user's plans to the contrary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::I wholeheartedly agree! Routinely using subterfuge to undermine the FA process is underhanded and borders on the conniving. The FA proccess is a team effort and not a one-man show. Ricktommy, you knew the group made a decision and arrived at consensus yet you unilateraly decide that your way is better and somehow try to find a way to prod or manipulate your way into having everyone else follow your whim. This isn't how consensus works and you've routinely have had issues where you poke, prod and complain your way through the system just so what you want is featured. If not then you make suggestions weeks, if not months in advance long before anyone else even gets a chance to even consider thinking about possibly suggesting a feature somewhere, somehow. In the end your features end up dominating the system if we don't keep you in check. This has the negative effect of turning potential contributors away from FA. I ask that you show more courtesy for fellow editors and respect for the HRWiki community in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Also MAM 7 is rather weak and uninteresting. It wouldn't make a good feature in my opinion. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Well, can we feature it the week after Ween instead? And Ngamer, I completely disagree. I'll draft a write-up soon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::We generally do two features for Halloween, and I don't see why that should be changed this year just to accommodate one user's desires. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well, let me just say that it was that same user who suggested Bad Graphics Ghost in the first place. If he - that is to say, I - hadn't suggested BGG, would it still have been put in the queue for the week before 'Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I don't see how that matters. The source of the suggestion is irrelevant here; only what the community decides to do with those suggestions matters. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I also agree. I see no reason to change our methods here. Typical functioning in the world is that leading up to a holiday, as well as the holiday itself, is the holiday season. Once the holiday is over, no one cares about the holiday anymore until next year, and have already moved on to the next holiday. I mean, on November 5th, will you still be adding more skeletons, jack-o-lanterns, and witches brüe to your house decorations, or will you begin taking them down and replacing them with turkeys, pilgrim hats, and those fruit-filled horn thingies? If the former, I will gladly send you a calendar, because it seems you are in dire need of one. If the latter, then consider the fact that what you are suggesting is the wiki equivalent of putting up your spooky decorations almost a week after halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:14, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

===Two weeks before Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 10-16)===
Since we had a re-run for the week before D'ween last year, I think that we should make up for it by doing three D'ween articles this year. For this week, [[Snowglobe]], the article that was suggested for the week before D'ween last year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I see no reason to do three this year just because one was a rerun last year. I also am not sure there's enough to say about snowglobe to feature. It's pretty much just a dumb snowglobe with a timer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with DeFender on both points. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week before Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 17-23)===
[[Homestar and the Nice Present]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I propose a bit of a bolder move, and do a set of dailies from [[Decemberween In July]]. Most of them have already been featured on their own, but it'd be nice to see these featured all together. It'd include the above suggestion as well as a couple of other toons that haven't been featured yet. Here's the order i'd propose, with a star next to those that have been featured already (we can reuse the writeups for those):
:*Day 1 — [[Decemberween In July]] (To introduce the week)
:*Day 2 — [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 6]]*
:*Day 3 — [[That Time of Year]]*
:*Day 4 — [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]*
:*Day 5 — [[Homestar and the Nice Present]]
:*Day 6 — [[Seasonal Sweaters]]
:*Day 7 — [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]*
:{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::This sounds like a fun idea! I support it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 24-30)===
[[A Decemberween Mackerel]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:Nah, i kinda hate mackarel. Senor Cardgage isn't at all his usual self, and the whole toon just makes me feel like TBC had waited so long to make one that they forgot how to actually create a homestar toon. Kinda like star wars episode 1. [[A Death-Defying Decemberween]] is a much better choice. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::Aww, I like Decemberween Mackerel! I don't think SC's any more out of character than we would expect for someone feeling the effects of hypothermia. Then again, I also like Death-Defying D'ween. I could go for either here. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:29, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

== Discussions of Articles Needing Expansion ==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, per consensus, require further expansion of the article itself before the article should be featured.''

==Stalled Discussions==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, due to lack of consensus or consensus against, are not ready to be featured at this time. ''

=== [[Visor Robot]] ===
''An important minor character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:27, 7 December 2011 (UTC)''
:''"Important" in what way? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:55, 7 December 2011 (UTC)''
::''[[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|I made a draft]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)''
:::Well, it's important in that the Wiki gave it that name and the Brothers Chaps decided to use the name themselves, as an [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgements|acknowledgement]]. And nice write-up, G-guy. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Meh. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

=== [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgements]] ===
I mean, don't you just like it when the Brothers Chaps acknowledge this Wiki? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I do enjoy when that happens, true, but would such a writeup be anything more than a laundry list of the more prominent instances of this? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::After seeing the attempt at a draft, I am now convinced that there is not enough tying it all together to provide a cohesive writeup. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe]] ===
''An interesting topic. TBC stated that it doesn't bother them, so it it would be ok to feature. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.85.97|93.207.85.97]] 13:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)''
:''Featuring an article that has an incomplete template on it? I think not. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 08:06, 6 February 2011 (UTC)''
::''The thing is that this article will likely never be fully completed, considering that some of the inconsistencies at times can be very small. I completely support this article. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 10 February 2011''
:::''I support to! {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 02:09, 28 February 2011 (UTC)''
::::''Oh, I didn't notice the Incomplete Notice when I suggested it. I see how that would normally keep an article from being featured. But like doctorwho said, this is an article that will probably never be considered complete and I think it can be featured in the current state. I would however accept it if it is decided against it. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.86.183|93.207.86.183]] 10:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)''
:::::''I'm with SMB. Featured articles should be examples of the fine work of the wiki. If it's incomplete, it's not really a good specimen of our work. And to those who say it'll never complete, I say that if so, it'll never be suitable for featuring. And some articles never are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)''
::::::But [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], [[Marzipan and Coach Z's Relationship]], and [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]] have incomplete templates on them, and they got featured. Either way, this article not only has a long enough intro, but starts with not one, but ''two'' quotes. So I support it too. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Those pages are somewhat more clear-cut than this one is though. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Here's why I think this article should not be featured: although all four articles have an "Incomplete Notice" that doesn't paint the full picture. The three articles listed above ([[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], [[Marzipan and Coach Z's Relationship]], and [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]]) can be considered to be fairly objective lists. We actually can get authoritative sources (such as the laws of various states and the federal district for "crimes" and "shady business", and toon transcripts for the "relationship" article where Marzipan and Coach Z appear and interact) that make it clear what goes in each article leaving only a small amout of room for disagreements. If we wanted to, the HRWiki community could ensure that all toons have been covered and remove the tags. We haven't because this is a laborious process. While we believe we've probably caught most, if not all, instances of the topic in question in each article, we can't know with 100% certainty that we've covered everything. So to be safe that "incomplete" tag is there until we can know for sure (see [[Talk:The_Geddup_Noise#Gettup_Noise_Approved|the geddup noise talk page]]).
::::::::On the other hand, the "inconsistencies" article is reasonably more subjective, there is no clear guide that defines what goes in the article (except perhaps {{pl|l=http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inconsistency webster's dictionary}}), and what's worse, even if there were an objective meter we'd have to check every action in every toon against ''all other actions in all other toons and material'' if we even want to consider this list to be complete! Like Heim said, "Featured articles should be examples of the fine work of the wiki" and it's hard to place "inconsistencies" in that category. While the article covers an interesting topic, the subjective and loosely defined nature of this work makes it somewhat speculative and even presumes that [[The Brothers Chaps]] are omniscient beings. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:42, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Thanks for the lengthy response. But I would just like to point out that no-one except myself has addressed the well-written intro, which I think should be the major factor here. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::I'll address it. It's not a factor when weighed against all the other objections raised. It's got a great intro, and I personally happen to really like that page, but when compared to the other great lists on the wiki such as [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]], [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], and [[Coach Z's Problems]], it just doesn't doesn't live up. Aside from those other pages being itemized, organized, and categorized, the most important thing, even if the inconsistencies page were all those things, is the inherent inability to maintain reasonable objectivity when it comes to what counts. I'd go even further as to say that it's a bad example because TBC don't really try to maintain much consistency when it comes to most of the things that get put on that page. Locations of landmarks, ages and life status of characters, even some of their knowledge. Other things on that list are questionable, such as "Strong Sad tells Strong Bad he never heard of Limozeen, but they watched Limozeen: "but they're in space!" together in best thing." are just kind of like "okay, so if i watched some weird show i didn't care about once with my brother who hates me, i also wouldn't necessarily remember the name of the show or the characters." Yes, the intro is very well-worded and contains one quote from Matt and another from Strong Sad, but the list itself, which is the main information set being documented by the article, is not up to par. Remember, "featured '''articles'''" are not "featured intros", and having a good intro to a list is just not enough. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Scroll Button Songs]]===
Surprised it was never featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:There isn't much to say. It's mostly a list. It would be difficult to make this into a cohesive FA. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:15, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::EC'd: I agree with stux. I'm not convinced there's enough to write up. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:42, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::After seeing the attempt at a draft, I am now convinced that there is not enough information outside of the list itself to provide a cohesive writeup. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[homestarrunner.com]]===
It's been nominated several times before. That is all. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:What's there to say about it in a feature though? It's the domain on which most of the toons appear. Is there any more to be said? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Nicknames]]===
Another frequently edited article. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:It may be frequently edited, but the article is one giant list with a simple intro. I say no to this. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::I'll add my opinion of "no" for pretty much the same reasons as Ngamer said. I'd also add that, like the inconsistencies, it's rather subjective what constitutes a "nickname". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Bad Email]]s (daily feature) ===
Since our recent daily was done a very long time after the previous daily, I think that we should make up for it by doing another daily rrll rrll soon. My theme for this daily is Strong Bad Emails from the second half of the [[Tandy]] era. I go for these seven emails: [[little animal]], [[CGNU]], [[superhero name]], [[gimmicks]], [[weird dream]], [[dullard]], and [[vacation]]. I have drafted write-ups for all seven of them (see the drafts page). {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 11:10, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
:RickTommy - for at least the fourth time, "we're running out of featurable articles too fast to merit doing any dailies right now." I'd say we should wait until the chaps are back regularly for at least a year before we do another daily. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Meet Marshie]] ===
We've featured [[Malloween Commercial]], so how about featuring the original? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:30, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

===[[FAQ]]===
An important page on the site. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:Can we manage a writeup of this? There's no prose introduction to speak of, so it'd have to be some sort of summary. I'm not at all sure you'd be able to get enough content out of the FAQ page to make a proper main page writeup. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::I think we'll be able to do an introduction of this. I support nomination. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 21 February 2011
:::I missed that this page had been "slated" to feature this week despite inadequate consensus for featuring. There is reasonable question whether there enough material to feature. This cannot be featured until an adequately-long FA has been made. I'd suggest writing one to show that there is and then featuring it on a different week. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
:I made a big draft of the FA. [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|Click hear!]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
::And a good thing it's big, too. It addresses the concerns about the article being difficult to make a write-up out of. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:::A proper sized writeup is good to reach, but I don't think FAQ is interesting enough for a feature. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::::I agree with ngamer. Really not very interesting. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

===[[Legal]]===
An important page, since it can be accessed from the Navbar. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 09:09, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think this has enough content to feature. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:00, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
::Correction: The wiki page has too much content to feature. [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|Here is proof!]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
:::You may want to trim that writeup down. We want to give viewers a small sample of what the article is about. Not shove an entire article on the front page. =P — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've done so. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:06, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
:::::Now the question remains is that is Legal interesting enough for a feature? I'm leaning toward no myself. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 14:05, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::I agree with NGamer, the [[HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection/Drafts#Legal|FA article draft]] pretty much just relays 90% of the page content. There just really isn't enough in this page to make a good FA out of it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Correction: it had 90% of the page content before it was shortened. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Whether the writeup is the majority of the page content or not, I just don't think a page with a bunch of legal stuff is worth featuring. The only thing interesting that happens is homestar saying "bo-wing" which pretty much sums up what it would be like to feature it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

=== [[The Announcer]] ===
An important minor character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 03:19, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
:Yes he is important. I scribbled down a draft [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|here]]. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
::That draft is the entire article, and it's got grammatical errors and NPOV issues to boot. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:::You mean the entire intro of the article, and what are the errors and issues, exactly? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::::No, i mean the entire article. The character evolution section doesn't count, as those tend to be separate pages for the more common characters. It's only part of the article for him since he's not big enough to have a series of pages devoted to him, and his appearance has evolved a lot. As for the issues, "rarely actually", "we know little of him", etc. I corrected as much as I could in the main article, but I still don't think it's worth featuring. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Doreauxgard]] ===
Another important pseudo-character. (Man, I hate sounding repetitive.) {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:46, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Doreauxgard|Here's]] a write-up that G-man drafted. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
::Important how? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

===[[The Cheat's Gold Tooth]]===
''How about featuring TC's tricked-out grill. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.13.68|132.183.13.68]] 18:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)''
:''Maybe. It's not that significant but it's long enough. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)''
::''Unfortunately, I think this is one of those articles that should be expanded a little before featuring. (Alternatively, if a writeup is made that expands on the topic, it can also be placed in the queue that way). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)''
:::I've drafted an adequate write-up. ([[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#The Cheat's Gold Tooth]]) {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
::::The writeup is long enough, but i don't think the topic is really all that interesting to feature. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:21, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

===[[your friends]]===
We've featured a Sbemail [in mid-late July] for the last couple of years. How about [[your friends]], the first email for which I had drafted a write-up? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
:I don't see any reason to stick to a pattern which has no basis aside from happenstance. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:36, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::I don't think this would make a good feature. I mean it's just Strong Bad going to hurt his "friends". Not really interesting outside SB leaving The Poopsmith alone because his crappy job probably gives him a high pain tolerance. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

===[[Compé]]===
I was thinking of saving it until sbemail206 is released, but at the rate the site is going, it probably won't be released. So I guess we should feature it soon, even though it's not developed (no pun intended) and it lacks appearances. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:It's too soon for this to be featured even if it is SB's first GUI-based computer with rotating wallpapers. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
::Agree with Ngamer. It's not developed enough. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

==General discussion==

===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

[[Category:Featured article maintenance|Selection]]

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

Heimstern Läufer — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:26:36 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* Week before Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 17-23) */ good idea!

{{shortcut|FAS||[[FAS]]}}
Welcome to '''[[HRWiki:Featured articles|featured article]] selection'''. Please help us choose and create write-ups for our best, most interesting, or otherwise noteworthy articles to appear on the [[main page]]. For ideas, check out the [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations|featured article nominations]]. For drafts, see [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts|this page]].

==Checklist==
{{talkchecklist|Checklist for new Featured Article:|noeditsection=true}}
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
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==Discussion archives==
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{| {{standardtable}}
! Year !! Weeks 1-10 !! Weeks 11-20 !! Weeks 21-30 !! Weeks 31-40 !! Weeks 41-52
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| 2005
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 26-29|2005, Weeks 26-29]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 30-39|2005, Weeks 30-39]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 40-49|2005, Weeks 40-52]]
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| 2006
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 1-10 |2006, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 11-20|2006, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 21-30|2006, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 31-40|2006, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 41-52|2006, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2007
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 1-10 |2007, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 11-20|2007, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 21-30|2007, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 31-40|2007, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 41-52|2007, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2008
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 1-10 |2008, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 11-20|2008, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 21-30|2008, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 31-40|2008, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 41-52|2008, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2009
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 1-10 |2009, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 11-20|2009, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 21-30|2009, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 31-40|2009, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 41-53|2009, Weeks 41-53]]
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| 2010
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 1-10 |2010, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 11-20|2010, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 21-30|2010, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 31-40|2010, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 41-52|2010, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2011
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 1-10 |2011, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 11-20|2011, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 21-30|2011, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 31-40|2011, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 41-52|2011, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2012
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 1-10 |2012, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 11-20|2012, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 21-30|2012, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 31-40|2012, Weeks 31-40]]
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|}

[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/General Discussion|Other Discussion]] |
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Stalled Discussions Archive 1|Stalled Discussions Archive 1]]
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==Featured Article Queue==
{| {{standardtable}}
! Week !! Article !! Discussion
{{FA queue| 8 Oct 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Kid Speedy}}

{{FA queue|22 Oct 2012 |Bad Graphics Ghost}}
|}

===Redirects===
This is a placeholder topic for 5-year redirects. Due to overall decreased activity, FAs are now being reused more often. The common practice has become to redirect to the FA exactly 5 years prior to the current FA. When an article is re-used, mark it in the following manner:
<pre>
{{FA queue|<date>|Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=<article name>}}
</pre>
Example:
<pre>
{{FA queue|15 Aug 2011 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=1-Up}}
</pre>

Please keep this discussion in the FA page at all times, but do copy it to archive pages as well.

=== [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] ===

''{{todo}} {{FA|22 Oct 2012}}''

Surprised it was never featured; also, it was once accidentally bolded on the nominations page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
:This will be nice to feature next year for Halloween. Second'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
::I think we should hold this one off until Halloween next year as well. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 18:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I approve of a Hallow's Eve '12 feature. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 23:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
::::I'm guessing you guys mean the week ''before'' Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, week before. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 13:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::I made a [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|draft]] of a Bad Graphics Ghost FA. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
While I understand that you guys want to feature this for the week before 'Ween, I intended this one as a feature for any time. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 20:16, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Then you're going to be annoyed at Halloween FA reruns if we do this ASAP. At least by waiting, you'll get one new Halloween FA this year that is if FAS isn't put on hiatus by that time. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::I also think this will make a fine feature for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:29, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
:::You know what, I've changed my mind. I don't think this should be featured at all if it's going to conflict with the suggestions that I have in mind for Ween. And like I said, I intended this one to be featured any time. Also, the week of Ween is specifically for the big toons. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:15, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
::::RickTommy, you're not approaching this the right way. You're talking about it conflicting with "the suggestions that '''I''' have in mind for Ween" and how "'''I''' intended this one to be featured at any time" (emphasis mine). What you think is scarcely the point. It's what the community thinks that matters, and they clearly think this article should be featured the week before Halloween. If it's against your plans, I'm sorry, that's rough. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::Actually Soiled Bargains, Defender, and I wanted this for Halloween week. Rick was the one that stated that everyone wanted it before Halloween when actually only Power Pie wanted it for before Halloween. So technically this doesn't have consensus. I'll move this out of the queue. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::Could we please have clarification on this? I assumed when people said "Halloween" they meant "the Halloween season", not specifically that week. Since we do indeed nearly always feature a full-length toon on Halloween itself, and I don't really see why it would be different this year. Are people fine with making this the week before Halloween? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm cool with this being the week before, though I see no reason for it not to be the week of, especially in a Hiatus where there is not an unlimited supply of big halloween toons. Also, Ngamer, there IS consensus to feature, we even have consensus as to roughly when to feature, just not clear on which of the two proposed weeks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:You're right that there's not an unlimited supply of big toons, but there ''are'' some left that haven't been featured, and I think at least one is highly deserving of being featured. In fact, from what I can see, we still have three more years before we'd run out. And there is tradition: while I know that "we've always done it" isn't in and of itself a valid reason, all other things being equal, there's a lot to be said for sticking to tradition. And I for one am in favour of keeping our big toon tradition. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::Fair enough. Let's stick with the week before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::I guess I hadn't explained well my reasons from earlier. I mean I know there is consensus for this to be featured, but there was no consensus on when to feature and without that, this had to be moved out of the queue until consensus on when to feature was reached...which is now. I guess if Halloween FA week is for big Halloween toons only, I guess I'm fine with Bad Graphics Ghost being a lead-in to the actual Halloween FA week. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 19:11, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::I know this is a done deal but I also wanted to give my support for the week before halloween (week 43 as stated). Even if we run out of big toons to feature I think we can rerun old big toons in the coming years. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

==Article discussions==
===[[Carol]]===
An important item/pseudocharacter. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:Could be cute. I'd have to see a good writeup before i'm convinced. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Carol|Here's]] a good write-up. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure i'd call it a "good" writeup... Seems rather disjointed to me. Comes off sounding like "In this toon, this happened. In this totally unrelated instance, this happened. In this third place, something else entirely." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:11, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::::I tried to rewrite the draft. I don't know if this works, but I do hope it'll help get this to a more wanted final version. I'd like to see a final version of this before I'll offer my support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 00:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::I fixed one point to make it more accurate, but it still strikes me as lacking. Is there any way we could spruce it up a bit more? I can't quite put my finger on what i think is missing, which is a shame. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::I don't know what it is that you think is missing, either. But I have somewhat improved the draft. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 15:49, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Halloween (Oct 29-Nov 4)===
[[Halloween Fairstival]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:Sure why not. Support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::Since this'll be October 29... how about [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]? It'll be ten years old to the day (Oct 29/02 - Oct 29/12) ...just another idea. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 17:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
:::First of all, [[weclome]] back, Bupkis. Where have you been for the past year and a half? Second of all, Carve-nival has already been featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay. Also, I haven't been very active here lately, with the hiatus and what not... I guess when sbemail206 rolls around things will pick up :p {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 22:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::So, you support Fairstival, right? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Strong Sad's iPod]]===
I'm feeling a little random and want to feel less hypocritical, so I'd like to throw this out as an suggestion. SS's iPods were seen on [[Podstar Runner 2006]] and it's last incarnation [[Podstar Runner]], so the iPod was important in the past. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
:Support, I guess. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::I've got [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Strong Sad's iPod|a draft]] up for review and fixing if it'll help any. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::I think it needs to be reworded to make it clear that strong sad has had many ipods over the years, rather than talking about "strong sad's ipod" as a singular item. I like the idea of this as a feature, the writeup just needs significant improvement before i put in my complete support. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:32, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've improved it as best I can. Can I put it in the queue now? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} <s>14:37, 2 October 2012 (UTC)</s> 05:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Thanksgiving (Nov 19-25)===
[[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-Cards]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I never liked that one. Personally, I'd suggest re-featuring [[Let us give TANKS!]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::Didn't even realize that TANKS would have been the default rerun for this anyway. Also, to be clear, when I say re-feature, I don't necessarily mean using the same writeup, since it might be nice to expand it now that we're far less worried about giving spoilers. The old one also seems a bit dry as compared to the writeups we tend to do nowadays. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:41, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
:::Less concerned about spoilers how? What exactly do you think should be added to the old writeup? I certainly don't think the ending with the nuclear device should be revealed on the main page; I think the ending gag definitely needs to remain a surprise. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
::::What I meant by less concerned about spoilers was... not important. I think I was thinking of something else which in my fully awake state doesn't make nearly as much sense as it did last night when I wrote that. Anyway, I'd expand the writeup somewhat to be a little less dry and more fun, and have a few more details. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

===Week <s>before</s> after Halloween <s>(Oct 22-28)</s> (Nov 5-11)===
I know that week is reserved for [[Bad Graphics Ghost]], but I'd like to go ahead and propose the article that I had in mind for that week: [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:We already achieved consensus for something else, and I don't see any reason to change just to accommodate one user's plans to the contrary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::I wholeheartedly agree! Routinely using subterfuge to undermine the FA process is underhanded and borders on the conniving. The FA proccess is a team effort and not a one-man show. Ricktommy, you knew the group made a decision and arrived at consensus yet you unilateraly decide that your way is better and somehow try to find a way to prod or manipulate your way into having everyone else follow your whim. This isn't how consensus works and you've routinely have had issues where you poke, prod and complain your way through the system just so what you want is featured. If not then you make suggestions weeks, if not months in advance long before anyone else even gets a chance to even consider thinking about possibly suggesting a feature somewhere, somehow. In the end your features end up dominating the system if we don't keep you in check. This has the negative effect of turning potential contributors away from FA. I ask that you show more courtesy for fellow editors and respect for the HRWiki community in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Also MAM 7 is rather weak and uninteresting. It wouldn't make a good feature in my opinion. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Well, can we feature it the week after Ween instead? And Ngamer, I completely disagree. I'll draft a write-up soon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::We generally do two features for Halloween, and I don't see why that should be changed this year just to accommodate one user's desires. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well, let me just say that it was that same user who suggested Bad Graphics Ghost in the first place. If he - that is to say, I - hadn't suggested BGG, would it still have been put in the queue for the week before 'Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I don't see how that matters. The source of the suggestion is irrelevant here; only what the community decides to do with those suggestions matters. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I also agree. I see no reason to change our methods here. Typical functioning in the world is that leading up to a holiday, as well as the holiday itself, is the holiday season. Once the holiday is over, no one cares about the holiday anymore until next year, and have already moved on to the next holiday. I mean, on November 5th, will you still be adding more skeletons, jack-o-lanterns, and witches brüe to your house decorations, or will you begin taking them down and replacing them with turkeys, pilgrim hats, and those fruit-filled horn thingies? If the former, I will gladly send you a calendar, because it seems you are in dire need of one. If the latter, then consider the fact that what you are suggesting is the wiki equivalent of putting up your spooky decorations almost a week after halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:14, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

===Two weeks before Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 10-16)===
Since we had a re-run for the week before D'ween last year, I think that we should make up for it by doing three D'ween articles this year. For this week, [[Snowglobe]], the article that was suggested for the week before D'ween last year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I see no reason to do three this year just because one was a rerun last year. I also am not sure there's enough to say about snowglobe to feature. It's pretty much just a dumb snowglobe with a timer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with DeFender on both points. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week before Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 17-23)===
[[Homestar and the Nice Present]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I propose a bit of a bolder move, and do a set of dailies from [[Decemberween In July]]. Most of them have already been featured on their own, but it'd be nice to see these featured all together. It'd include the above suggestion as well as a couple of other toons that haven't been featured yet. Here's the order i'd propose, with a star next to those that have been featured already (we can reuse the writeups for those):
:*Day 1 — [[Decemberween In July]] (To introduce the week)
:*Day 2 — [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 6]]*
:*Day 3 — [[That Time of Year]]*
:*Day 4 — [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]*
:*Day 5 — [[Homestar and the Nice Present]]
:*Day 6 — [[Seasonal Sweaters]]
:*Day 7 — [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]*
:{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::This sounds like a fun idea! I support it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 24-30)===
[[A Decemberween Mackerel]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:Nah, i kinda hate mackarel. Senor Cardgage isn't at all his usual self, and the whole toon just makes me feel like TBC had waited so long to make one that they forgot how to actually create a homestar toon. Kinda like star wars episode 1. [[A Death-Defying Decemberween]] is a much better choice. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

== Discussions of Articles Needing Expansion ==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, per consensus, require further expansion of the article itself before the article should be featured.''

==Stalled Discussions==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, due to lack of consensus or consensus against, are not ready to be featured at this time. ''

=== [[Visor Robot]] ===
''An important minor character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:27, 7 December 2011 (UTC)''
:''"Important" in what way? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:55, 7 December 2011 (UTC)''
::''[[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|I made a draft]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)''
:::Well, it's important in that the Wiki gave it that name and the Brothers Chaps decided to use the name themselves, as an [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgements|acknowledgement]]. And nice write-up, G-guy. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Meh. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

=== [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgements]] ===
I mean, don't you just like it when the Brothers Chaps acknowledge this Wiki? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I do enjoy when that happens, true, but would such a writeup be anything more than a laundry list of the more prominent instances of this? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::After seeing the attempt at a draft, I am now convinced that there is not enough tying it all together to provide a cohesive writeup. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe]] ===
''An interesting topic. TBC stated that it doesn't bother them, so it it would be ok to feature. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.85.97|93.207.85.97]] 13:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)''
:''Featuring an article that has an incomplete template on it? I think not. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 08:06, 6 February 2011 (UTC)''
::''The thing is that this article will likely never be fully completed, considering that some of the inconsistencies at times can be very small. I completely support this article. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 10 February 2011''
:::''I support to! {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 02:09, 28 February 2011 (UTC)''
::::''Oh, I didn't notice the Incomplete Notice when I suggested it. I see how that would normally keep an article from being featured. But like doctorwho said, this is an article that will probably never be considered complete and I think it can be featured in the current state. I would however accept it if it is decided against it. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.86.183|93.207.86.183]] 10:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)''
:::::''I'm with SMB. Featured articles should be examples of the fine work of the wiki. If it's incomplete, it's not really a good specimen of our work. And to those who say it'll never complete, I say that if so, it'll never be suitable for featuring. And some articles never are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)''
::::::But [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], [[Marzipan and Coach Z's Relationship]], and [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]] have incomplete templates on them, and they got featured. Either way, this article not only has a long enough intro, but starts with not one, but ''two'' quotes. So I support it too. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Those pages are somewhat more clear-cut than this one is though. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Here's why I think this article should not be featured: although all four articles have an "Incomplete Notice" that doesn't paint the full picture. The three articles listed above ([[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], [[Marzipan and Coach Z's Relationship]], and [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]]) can be considered to be fairly objective lists. We actually can get authoritative sources (such as the laws of various states and the federal district for "crimes" and "shady business", and toon transcripts for the "relationship" article where Marzipan and Coach Z appear and interact) that make it clear what goes in each article leaving only a small amout of room for disagreements. If we wanted to, the HRWiki community could ensure that all toons have been covered and remove the tags. We haven't because this is a laborious process. While we believe we've probably caught most, if not all, instances of the topic in question in each article, we can't know with 100% certainty that we've covered everything. So to be safe that "incomplete" tag is there until we can know for sure (see [[Talk:The_Geddup_Noise#Gettup_Noise_Approved|the geddup noise talk page]]).
::::::::On the other hand, the "inconsistencies" article is reasonably more subjective, there is no clear guide that defines what goes in the article (except perhaps {{pl|l=http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inconsistency webster's dictionary}}), and what's worse, even if there were an objective meter we'd have to check every action in every toon against ''all other actions in all other toons and material'' if we even want to consider this list to be complete! Like Heim said, "Featured articles should be examples of the fine work of the wiki" and it's hard to place "inconsistencies" in that category. While the article covers an interesting topic, the subjective and loosely defined nature of this work makes it somewhat speculative and even presumes that [[The Brothers Chaps]] are omniscient beings. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:42, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Thanks for the lengthy response. But I would just like to point out that no-one except myself has addressed the well-written intro, which I think should be the major factor here. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::I'll address it. It's not a factor when weighed against all the other objections raised. It's got a great intro, and I personally happen to really like that page, but when compared to the other great lists on the wiki such as [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]], [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], and [[Coach Z's Problems]], it just doesn't doesn't live up. Aside from those other pages being itemized, organized, and categorized, the most important thing, even if the inconsistencies page were all those things, is the inherent inability to maintain reasonable objectivity when it comes to what counts. I'd go even further as to say that it's a bad example because TBC don't really try to maintain much consistency when it comes to most of the things that get put on that page. Locations of landmarks, ages and life status of characters, even some of their knowledge. Other things on that list are questionable, such as "Strong Sad tells Strong Bad he never heard of Limozeen, but they watched Limozeen: "but they're in space!" together in best thing." are just kind of like "okay, so if i watched some weird show i didn't care about once with my brother who hates me, i also wouldn't necessarily remember the name of the show or the characters." Yes, the intro is very well-worded and contains one quote from Matt and another from Strong Sad, but the list itself, which is the main information set being documented by the article, is not up to par. Remember, "featured '''articles'''" are not "featured intros", and having a good intro to a list is just not enough. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Scroll Button Songs]]===
Surprised it was never featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:There isn't much to say. It's mostly a list. It would be difficult to make this into a cohesive FA. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:15, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::EC'd: I agree with stux. I'm not convinced there's enough to write up. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:42, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::After seeing the attempt at a draft, I am now convinced that there is not enough information outside of the list itself to provide a cohesive writeup. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[homestarrunner.com]]===
It's been nominated several times before. That is all. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:What's there to say about it in a feature though? It's the domain on which most of the toons appear. Is there any more to be said? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Nicknames]]===
Another frequently edited article. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:It may be frequently edited, but the article is one giant list with a simple intro. I say no to this. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::I'll add my opinion of "no" for pretty much the same reasons as Ngamer said. I'd also add that, like the inconsistencies, it's rather subjective what constitutes a "nickname". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Bad Email]]s (daily feature) ===
Since our recent daily was done a very long time after the previous daily, I think that we should make up for it by doing another daily rrll rrll soon. My theme for this daily is Strong Bad Emails from the second half of the [[Tandy]] era. I go for these seven emails: [[little animal]], [[CGNU]], [[superhero name]], [[gimmicks]], [[weird dream]], [[dullard]], and [[vacation]]. I have drafted write-ups for all seven of them (see the drafts page). {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 11:10, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
:RickTommy - for at least the fourth time, "we're running out of featurable articles too fast to merit doing any dailies right now." I'd say we should wait until the chaps are back regularly for at least a year before we do another daily. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Meet Marshie]] ===
We've featured [[Malloween Commercial]], so how about featuring the original? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:30, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

===[[FAQ]]===
An important page on the site. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:Can we manage a writeup of this? There's no prose introduction to speak of, so it'd have to be some sort of summary. I'm not at all sure you'd be able to get enough content out of the FAQ page to make a proper main page writeup. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::I think we'll be able to do an introduction of this. I support nomination. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 21 February 2011
:::I missed that this page had been "slated" to feature this week despite inadequate consensus for featuring. There is reasonable question whether there enough material to feature. This cannot be featured until an adequately-long FA has been made. I'd suggest writing one to show that there is and then featuring it on a different week. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
:I made a big draft of the FA. [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|Click hear!]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
::And a good thing it's big, too. It addresses the concerns about the article being difficult to make a write-up out of. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:::A proper sized writeup is good to reach, but I don't think FAQ is interesting enough for a feature. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::::I agree with ngamer. Really not very interesting. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

===[[Legal]]===
An important page, since it can be accessed from the Navbar. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 09:09, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think this has enough content to feature. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:00, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
::Correction: The wiki page has too much content to feature. [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|Here is proof!]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
:::You may want to trim that writeup down. We want to give viewers a small sample of what the article is about. Not shove an entire article on the front page. =P — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've done so. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:06, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
:::::Now the question remains is that is Legal interesting enough for a feature? I'm leaning toward no myself. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 14:05, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::I agree with NGamer, the [[HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection/Drafts#Legal|FA article draft]] pretty much just relays 90% of the page content. There just really isn't enough in this page to make a good FA out of it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Correction: it had 90% of the page content before it was shortened. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Whether the writeup is the majority of the page content or not, I just don't think a page with a bunch of legal stuff is worth featuring. The only thing interesting that happens is homestar saying "bo-wing" which pretty much sums up what it would be like to feature it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

=== [[The Announcer]] ===
An important minor character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 03:19, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
:Yes he is important. I scribbled down a draft [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|here]]. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
::That draft is the entire article, and it's got grammatical errors and NPOV issues to boot. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:::You mean the entire intro of the article, and what are the errors and issues, exactly? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::::No, i mean the entire article. The character evolution section doesn't count, as those tend to be separate pages for the more common characters. It's only part of the article for him since he's not big enough to have a series of pages devoted to him, and his appearance has evolved a lot. As for the issues, "rarely actually", "we know little of him", etc. I corrected as much as I could in the main article, but I still don't think it's worth featuring. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Doreauxgard]] ===
Another important pseudo-character. (Man, I hate sounding repetitive.) {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:46, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Doreauxgard|Here's]] a write-up that G-man drafted. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
::Important how? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

===[[The Cheat's Gold Tooth]]===
''How about featuring TC's tricked-out grill. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.13.68|132.183.13.68]] 18:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)''
:''Maybe. It's not that significant but it's long enough. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)''
::''Unfortunately, I think this is one of those articles that should be expanded a little before featuring. (Alternatively, if a writeup is made that expands on the topic, it can also be placed in the queue that way). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)''
:::I've drafted an adequate write-up. ([[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#The Cheat's Gold Tooth]]) {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
::::The writeup is long enough, but i don't think the topic is really all that interesting to feature. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:21, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

===[[your friends]]===
We've featured a Sbemail [in mid-late July] for the last couple of years. How about [[your friends]], the first email for which I had drafted a write-up? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
:I don't see any reason to stick to a pattern which has no basis aside from happenstance. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:36, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::I don't think this would make a good feature. I mean it's just Strong Bad going to hurt his "friends". Not really interesting outside SB leaving The Poopsmith alone because his crappy job probably gives him a high pain tolerance. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

===[[Compé]]===
I was thinking of saving it until sbemail206 is released, but at the rate the site is going, it probably won't be released. So I guess we should feature it soon, even though it's not developed (no pun intended) and it lacks appearances. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:It's too soon for this to be featured even if it is SB's first GUI-based computer with rotating wallpapers. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
::Agree with Ngamer. It's not developed enough. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

==General discussion==

===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

[[Category:Featured article maintenance|Selection]]

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

Heimstern Läufer — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:24:38 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* Two weeks before Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 10-16) */ agree

{{shortcut|FAS||[[FAS]]}}
Welcome to '''[[HRWiki:Featured articles|featured article]] selection'''. Please help us choose and create write-ups for our best, most interesting, or otherwise noteworthy articles to appear on the [[main page]]. For ideas, check out the [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations|featured article nominations]]. For drafts, see [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts|this page]].

==Checklist==
{{talkchecklist|Checklist for new Featured Article:|noeditsection=true}}
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
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==Discussion archives==
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{| {{standardtable}}
! Year !! Weeks 1-10 !! Weeks 11-20 !! Weeks 21-30 !! Weeks 31-40 !! Weeks 41-52
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| 2005
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| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 26-29|2005, Weeks 26-29]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 30-39|2005, Weeks 30-39]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 40-49|2005, Weeks 40-52]]
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| 2006
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 1-10 |2006, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 11-20|2006, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 21-30|2006, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 31-40|2006, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 41-52|2006, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2007
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 1-10 |2007, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 11-20|2007, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 21-30|2007, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 31-40|2007, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 41-52|2007, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2008
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 1-10 |2008, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 11-20|2008, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 21-30|2008, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 31-40|2008, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks 41-52|2008, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2009
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 1-10 |2009, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 11-20|2009, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 21-30|2009, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 31-40|2009, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2009 Weeks 41-53|2009, Weeks 41-53]]
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| 2010
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 1-10 |2010, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 11-20|2010, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 21-30|2010, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 31-40|2010, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 41-52|2010, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2011
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 1-10 |2011, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 11-20|2011, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 21-30|2011, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 31-40|2011, Weeks 31-40]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2011 Weeks 41-52|2011, Weeks 41-52]]
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| 2012
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 1-10 |2012, Weeks 1-10]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 11-20|2012, Weeks 11-20]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 21-30|2012, Weeks 21-30]]
| [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2012 Weeks 31-40|2012, Weeks 31-40]]
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|}

[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/General Discussion|Other Discussion]] |
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Stalled Discussions Archive 1|Stalled Discussions Archive 1]]
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==Featured Article Queue==
{| {{standardtable}}
! Week !! Article !! Discussion
{{FA queue| 8 Oct 2012 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=Kid Speedy}}

{{FA queue|22 Oct 2012 |Bad Graphics Ghost}}
|}

===Redirects===
This is a placeholder topic for 5-year redirects. Due to overall decreased activity, FAs are now being reused more often. The common practice has become to redirect to the FA exactly 5 years prior to the current FA. When an article is re-used, mark it in the following manner:
<pre>
{{FA queue|<date>|Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=<article name>}}
</pre>
Example:
<pre>
{{FA queue|15 Aug 2011 |Redirects|alternatediscussion=yes|decision=1-Up}}
</pre>

Please keep this discussion in the FA page at all times, but do copy it to archive pages as well.

=== [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] ===

''{{todo}} {{FA|22 Oct 2012}}''

Surprised it was never featured; also, it was once accidentally bolded on the nominations page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
:This will be nice to feature next year for Halloween. Second'd! — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
::I think we should hold this one off until Halloween next year as well. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 18:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I approve of a Hallow's Eve '12 feature. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 23:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
::::I'm guessing you guys mean the week ''before'' Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, week before. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 13:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::I made a [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|draft]] of a Bad Graphics Ghost FA. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
While I understand that you guys want to feature this for the week before 'Ween, I intended this one as a feature for any time. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 20:16, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Then you're going to be annoyed at Halloween FA reruns if we do this ASAP. At least by waiting, you'll get one new Halloween FA this year that is if FAS isn't put on hiatus by that time. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::I also think this will make a fine feature for halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:29, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
:::You know what, I've changed my mind. I don't think this should be featured at all if it's going to conflict with the suggestions that I have in mind for Ween. And like I said, I intended this one to be featured any time. Also, the week of Ween is specifically for the big toons. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:15, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
::::RickTommy, you're not approaching this the right way. You're talking about it conflicting with "the suggestions that '''I''' have in mind for Ween" and how "'''I''' intended this one to be featured at any time" (emphasis mine). What you think is scarcely the point. It's what the community thinks that matters, and they clearly think this article should be featured the week before Halloween. If it's against your plans, I'm sorry, that's rough. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::Actually Soiled Bargains, Defender, and I wanted this for Halloween week. Rick was the one that stated that everyone wanted it before Halloween when actually only Power Pie wanted it for before Halloween. So technically this doesn't have consensus. I'll move this out of the queue. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 03:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::Could we please have clarification on this? I assumed when people said "Halloween" they meant "the Halloween season", not specifically that week. Since we do indeed nearly always feature a full-length toon on Halloween itself, and I don't really see why it would be different this year. Are people fine with making this the week before Halloween? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm cool with this being the week before, though I see no reason for it not to be the week of, especially in a Hiatus where there is not an unlimited supply of big halloween toons. Also, Ngamer, there IS consensus to feature, we even have consensus as to roughly when to feature, just not clear on which of the two proposed weeks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:You're right that there's not an unlimited supply of big toons, but there ''are'' some left that haven't been featured, and I think at least one is highly deserving of being featured. In fact, from what I can see, we still have three more years before we'd run out. And there is tradition: while I know that "we've always done it" isn't in and of itself a valid reason, all other things being equal, there's a lot to be said for sticking to tradition. And I for one am in favour of keeping our big toon tradition. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::Fair enough. Let's stick with the week before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::I guess I hadn't explained well my reasons from earlier. I mean I know there is consensus for this to be featured, but there was no consensus on when to feature and without that, this had to be moved out of the queue until consensus on when to feature was reached...which is now. I guess if Halloween FA week is for big Halloween toons only, I guess I'm fine with Bad Graphics Ghost being a lead-in to the actual Halloween FA week. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 19:11, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::I know this is a done deal but I also wanted to give my support for the week before halloween (week 43 as stated). Even if we run out of big toons to feature I think we can rerun old big toons in the coming years. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

==Article discussions==
===[[Carol]]===
An important item/pseudocharacter. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:Could be cute. I'd have to see a good writeup before i'm convinced. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Carol|Here's]] a good write-up. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure i'd call it a "good" writeup... Seems rather disjointed to me. Comes off sounding like "In this toon, this happened. In this totally unrelated instance, this happened. In this third place, something else entirely." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:11, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::::I tried to rewrite the draft. I don't know if this works, but I do hope it'll help get this to a more wanted final version. I'd like to see a final version of this before I'll offer my support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 00:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::I fixed one point to make it more accurate, but it still strikes me as lacking. Is there any way we could spruce it up a bit more? I can't quite put my finger on what i think is missing, which is a shame. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::I don't know what it is that you think is missing, either. But I have somewhat improved the draft. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 15:49, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Halloween (Oct 29-Nov 4)===
[[Halloween Fairstival]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:Sure why not. Support. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::Since this'll be October 29... how about [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]? It'll be ten years old to the day (Oct 29/02 - Oct 29/12) ...just another idea. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 17:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
:::First of all, [[weclome]] back, Bupkis. Where have you been for the past year and a half? Second of all, Carve-nival has already been featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay. Also, I haven't been very active here lately, with the hiatus and what not... I guess when sbemail206 rolls around things will pick up :p {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 22:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::So, you support Fairstival, right? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===[[Strong Sad's iPod]]===
I'm feeling a little random and want to feel less hypocritical, so I'd like to throw this out as an suggestion. SS's iPods were seen on [[Podstar Runner 2006]] and it's last incarnation [[Podstar Runner]], so the iPod was important in the past. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
:Support, I guess. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::I've got [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Strong Sad's iPod|a draft]] up for review and fixing if it'll help any. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::I think it needs to be reworded to make it clear that strong sad has had many ipods over the years, rather than talking about "strong sad's ipod" as a singular item. I like the idea of this as a feature, the writeup just needs significant improvement before i put in my complete support. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:32, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've improved it as best I can. Can I put it in the queue now? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} <s>14:37, 2 October 2012 (UTC)</s> 05:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Thanksgiving (Nov 19-25)===
[[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-Cards]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I never liked that one. Personally, I'd suggest re-featuring [[Let us give TANKS!]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::Didn't even realize that TANKS would have been the default rerun for this anyway. Also, to be clear, when I say re-feature, I don't necessarily mean using the same writeup, since it might be nice to expand it now that we're far less worried about giving spoilers. The old one also seems a bit dry as compared to the writeups we tend to do nowadays. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:41, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
:::Less concerned about spoilers how? What exactly do you think should be added to the old writeup? I certainly don't think the ending with the nuclear device should be revealed on the main page; I think the ending gag definitely needs to remain a surprise. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
::::What I meant by less concerned about spoilers was... not important. I think I was thinking of something else which in my fully awake state doesn't make nearly as much sense as it did last night when I wrote that. Anyway, I'd expand the writeup somewhat to be a little less dry and more fun, and have a few more details. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

===Week <s>before</s> after Halloween <s>(Oct 22-28)</s> (Nov 5-11)===
I know that week is reserved for [[Bad Graphics Ghost]], but I'd like to go ahead and propose the article that I had in mind for that week: [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:We already achieved consensus for something else, and I don't see any reason to change just to accommodate one user's plans to the contrary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::I wholeheartedly agree! Routinely using subterfuge to undermine the FA process is underhanded and borders on the conniving. The FA proccess is a team effort and not a one-man show. Ricktommy, you knew the group made a decision and arrived at consensus yet you unilateraly decide that your way is better and somehow try to find a way to prod or manipulate your way into having everyone else follow your whim. This isn't how consensus works and you've routinely have had issues where you poke, prod and complain your way through the system just so what you want is featured. If not then you make suggestions weeks, if not months in advance long before anyone else even gets a chance to even consider thinking about possibly suggesting a feature somewhere, somehow. In the end your features end up dominating the system if we don't keep you in check. This has the negative effect of turning potential contributors away from FA. I ask that you show more courtesy for fellow editors and respect for the HRWiki community in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Also MAM 7 is rather weak and uninteresting. It wouldn't make a good feature in my opinion. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Well, can we feature it the week after Ween instead? And Ngamer, I completely disagree. I'll draft a write-up soon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::We generally do two features for Halloween, and I don't see why that should be changed this year just to accommodate one user's desires. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well, let me just say that it was that same user who suggested Bad Graphics Ghost in the first place. If he - that is to say, I - hadn't suggested BGG, would it still have been put in the queue for the week before 'Ween? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I don't see how that matters. The source of the suggestion is irrelevant here; only what the community decides to do with those suggestions matters. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I also agree. I see no reason to change our methods here. Typical functioning in the world is that leading up to a holiday, as well as the holiday itself, is the holiday season. Once the holiday is over, no one cares about the holiday anymore until next year, and have already moved on to the next holiday. I mean, on November 5th, will you still be adding more skeletons, jack-o-lanterns, and witches brüe to your house decorations, or will you begin taking them down and replacing them with turkeys, pilgrim hats, and those fruit-filled horn thingies? If the former, I will gladly send you a calendar, because it seems you are in dire need of one. If the latter, then consider the fact that what you are suggesting is the wiki equivalent of putting up your spooky decorations almost a week after halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:14, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

===Two weeks before Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 10-16)===
Since we had a re-run for the week before D'ween last year, I think that we should make up for it by doing three D'ween articles this year. For this week, [[Snowglobe]], the article that was suggested for the week before D'ween last year. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I see no reason to do three this year just because one was a rerun last year. I also am not sure there's enough to say about snowglobe to feature. It's pretty much just a dumb snowglobe with a timer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with DeFender on both points. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week before Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 17-23)===
[[Homestar and the Nice Present]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I propose a bit of a bolder move, and do a set of dailies from [[Decemberween In July]]. Most of them have already been featured on their own, but it'd be nice to see these featured all together. It'd include the above suggestion as well as a couple of other toons that haven't been featured yet. Here's the order i'd propose, with a star next to those that have been featured already (we can reuse the writeups for those):
:*Day 1 — [[Decemberween In July]] (To introduce the week)
:*Day 2 — [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 6]]*
:*Day 3 — [[That Time of Year]]*
:*Day 4 — [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]*
:*Day 5 — [[Homestar and the Nice Present]]
:*Day 6 — [[Seasonal Sweaters]]
:*Day 7 — [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]*
:{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

===Week of Christmas/Decemberween (Dec 24-30)===
[[A Decemberween Mackerel]]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:Nah, i kinda hate mackarel. Senor Cardgage isn't at all his usual self, and the whole toon just makes me feel like TBC had waited so long to make one that they forgot how to actually create a homestar toon. Kinda like star wars episode 1. [[A Death-Defying Decemberween]] is a much better choice. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

== Discussions of Articles Needing Expansion ==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, per consensus, require further expansion of the article itself before the article should be featured.''

==Stalled Discussions==
:''Discussions in this section regard articles that, due to lack of consensus or consensus against, are not ready to be featured at this time. ''

=== [[Visor Robot]] ===
''An important minor character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:27, 7 December 2011 (UTC)''
:''"Important" in what way? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:55, 7 December 2011 (UTC)''
::''[[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|I made a draft]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)''
:::Well, it's important in that the Wiki gave it that name and the Brothers Chaps decided to use the name themselves, as an [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgements|acknowledgement]]. And nice write-up, G-guy. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::::Meh. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

=== [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgements]] ===
I mean, don't you just like it when the Brothers Chaps acknowledge this Wiki? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I do enjoy when that happens, true, but would such a writeup be anything more than a laundry list of the more prominent instances of this? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
::After seeing the attempt at a draft, I am now convinced that there is not enough tying it all together to provide a cohesive writeup. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe]] ===
''An interesting topic. TBC stated that it doesn't bother them, so it it would be ok to feature. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.85.97|93.207.85.97]] 13:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)''
:''Featuring an article that has an incomplete template on it? I think not. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 08:06, 6 February 2011 (UTC)''
::''The thing is that this article will likely never be fully completed, considering that some of the inconsistencies at times can be very small. I completely support this article. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 10 February 2011''
:::''I support to! {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 02:09, 28 February 2011 (UTC)''
::::''Oh, I didn't notice the Incomplete Notice when I suggested it. I see how that would normally keep an article from being featured. But like doctorwho said, this is an article that will probably never be considered complete and I think it can be featured in the current state. I would however accept it if it is decided against it. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.86.183|93.207.86.183]] 10:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)''
:::::''I'm with SMB. Featured articles should be examples of the fine work of the wiki. If it's incomplete, it's not really a good specimen of our work. And to those who say it'll never complete, I say that if so, it'll never be suitable for featuring. And some articles never are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)''
::::::But [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], [[Marzipan and Coach Z's Relationship]], and [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]] have incomplete templates on them, and they got featured. Either way, this article not only has a long enough intro, but starts with not one, but ''two'' quotes. So I support it too. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Those pages are somewhat more clear-cut than this one is though. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Here's why I think this article should not be featured: although all four articles have an "Incomplete Notice" that doesn't paint the full picture. The three articles listed above ([[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], [[Marzipan and Coach Z's Relationship]], and [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]]) can be considered to be fairly objective lists. We actually can get authoritative sources (such as the laws of various states and the federal district for "crimes" and "shady business", and toon transcripts for the "relationship" article where Marzipan and Coach Z appear and interact) that make it clear what goes in each article leaving only a small amout of room for disagreements. If we wanted to, the HRWiki community could ensure that all toons have been covered and remove the tags. We haven't because this is a laborious process. While we believe we've probably caught most, if not all, instances of the topic in question in each article, we can't know with 100% certainty that we've covered everything. So to be safe that "incomplete" tag is there until we can know for sure (see [[Talk:The_Geddup_Noise#Gettup_Noise_Approved|the geddup noise talk page]]).
::::::::On the other hand, the "inconsistencies" article is reasonably more subjective, there is no clear guide that defines what goes in the article (except perhaps {{pl|l=http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inconsistency webster's dictionary}}), and what's worse, even if there were an objective meter we'd have to check every action in every toon against ''all other actions in all other toons and material'' if we even want to consider this list to be complete! Like Heim said, "Featured articles should be examples of the fine work of the wiki" and it's hard to place "inconsistencies" in that category. While the article covers an interesting topic, the subjective and loosely defined nature of this work makes it somewhat speculative and even presumes that [[The Brothers Chaps]] are omniscient beings. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:42, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Thanks for the lengthy response. But I would just like to point out that no-one except myself has addressed the well-written intro, which I think should be the major factor here. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::I'll address it. It's not a factor when weighed against all the other objections raised. It's got a great intro, and I personally happen to really like that page, but when compared to the other great lists on the wiki such as [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]], [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]], and [[Coach Z's Problems]], it just doesn't doesn't live up. Aside from those other pages being itemized, organized, and categorized, the most important thing, even if the inconsistencies page were all those things, is the inherent inability to maintain reasonable objectivity when it comes to what counts. I'd go even further as to say that it's a bad example because TBC don't really try to maintain much consistency when it comes to most of the things that get put on that page. Locations of landmarks, ages and life status of characters, even some of their knowledge. Other things on that list are questionable, such as "Strong Sad tells Strong Bad he never heard of Limozeen, but they watched Limozeen: "but they're in space!" together in best thing." are just kind of like "okay, so if i watched some weird show i didn't care about once with my brother who hates me, i also wouldn't necessarily remember the name of the show or the characters." Yes, the intro is very well-worded and contains one quote from Matt and another from Strong Sad, but the list itself, which is the main information set being documented by the article, is not up to par. Remember, "featured '''articles'''" are not "featured intros", and having a good intro to a list is just not enough. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Scroll Button Songs]]===
Surprised it was never featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:There isn't much to say. It's mostly a list. It would be difficult to make this into a cohesive FA. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:15, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
::EC'd: I agree with stux. I'm not convinced there's enough to write up. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:42, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:::After seeing the attempt at a draft, I am now convinced that there is not enough information outside of the list itself to provide a cohesive writeup. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[homestarrunner.com]]===
It's been nominated several times before. That is all. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:What's there to say about it in a feature though? It's the domain on which most of the toons appear. Is there any more to be said? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

===[[Nicknames]]===
Another frequently edited article. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:It may be frequently edited, but the article is one giant list with a simple intro. I say no to this. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::I'll add my opinion of "no" for pretty much the same reasons as Ngamer said. I'd also add that, like the inconsistencies, it's rather subjective what constitutes a "nickname". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Bad Email]]s (daily feature) ===
Since our recent daily was done a very long time after the previous daily, I think that we should make up for it by doing another daily rrll rrll soon. My theme for this daily is Strong Bad Emails from the second half of the [[Tandy]] era. I go for these seven emails: [[little animal]], [[CGNU]], [[superhero name]], [[gimmicks]], [[weird dream]], [[dullard]], and [[vacation]]. I have drafted write-ups for all seven of them (see the drafts page). {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 11:10, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
:RickTommy - for at least the fourth time, "we're running out of featurable articles too fast to merit doing any dailies right now." I'd say we should wait until the chaps are back regularly for at least a year before we do another daily. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Meet Marshie]] ===
We've featured [[Malloween Commercial]], so how about featuring the original? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:30, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

===[[FAQ]]===
An important page on the site. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:Can we manage a writeup of this? There's no prose introduction to speak of, so it'd have to be some sort of summary. I'm not at all sure you'd be able to get enough content out of the FAQ page to make a proper main page writeup. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::I think we'll be able to do an introduction of this. I support nomination. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 21 February 2011
:::I missed that this page had been "slated" to feature this week despite inadequate consensus for featuring. There is reasonable question whether there enough material to feature. This cannot be featured until an adequately-long FA has been made. I'd suggest writing one to show that there is and then featuring it on a different week. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
:I made a big draft of the FA. [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|Click hear!]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
::And a good thing it's big, too. It addresses the concerns about the article being difficult to make a write-up out of. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:::A proper sized writeup is good to reach, but I don't think FAQ is interesting enough for a feature. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::::I agree with ngamer. Really not very interesting. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

===[[Legal]]===
An important page, since it can be accessed from the Navbar. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 09:09, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think this has enough content to feature. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:00, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
::Correction: The wiki page has too much content to feature. [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|Here is proof!]] --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
:::You may want to trim that writeup down. We want to give viewers a small sample of what the article is about. Not shove an entire article on the front page. =P — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I've done so. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:06, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
:::::Now the question remains is that is Legal interesting enough for a feature? I'm leaning toward no myself. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 14:05, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::I agree with NGamer, the [[HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection/Drafts#Legal|FA article draft]] pretty much just relays 90% of the page content. There just really isn't enough in this page to make a good FA out of it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Correction: it had 90% of the page content before it was shortened. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Whether the writeup is the majority of the page content or not, I just don't think a page with a bunch of legal stuff is worth featuring. The only thing interesting that happens is homestar saying "bo-wing" which pretty much sums up what it would be like to feature it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

=== [[The Announcer]] ===
An important minor character. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 03:19, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
:Yes he is important. I scribbled down a draft [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/Draft|here]]. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
::That draft is the entire article, and it's got grammatical errors and NPOV issues to boot. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:::You mean the entire intro of the article, and what are the errors and issues, exactly? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::::No, i mean the entire article. The character evolution section doesn't count, as those tend to be separate pages for the more common characters. It's only part of the article for him since he's not big enough to have a series of pages devoted to him, and his appearance has evolved a lot. As for the issues, "rarely actually", "we know little of him", etc. I corrected as much as I could in the main article, but I still don't think it's worth featuring. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

=== [[Doreauxgard]] ===
Another important pseudo-character. (Man, I hate sounding repetitive.) {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:46, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#Doreauxgard|Here's]] a write-up that G-man drafted. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
::Important how? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

===[[The Cheat's Gold Tooth]]===
''How about featuring TC's tricked-out grill. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.13.68|132.183.13.68]] 18:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)''
:''Maybe. It's not that significant but it's long enough. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)''
::''Unfortunately, I think this is one of those articles that should be expanded a little before featuring. (Alternatively, if a writeup is made that expands on the topic, it can also be placed in the queue that way). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)''
:::I've drafted an adequate write-up. ([[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Drafts#The Cheat's Gold Tooth]]) {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
::::The writeup is long enough, but i don't think the topic is really all that interesting to feature. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:21, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

===[[your friends]]===
We've featured a Sbemail [in mid-late July] for the last couple of years. How about [[your friends]], the first email for which I had drafted a write-up? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
:I don't see any reason to stick to a pattern which has no basis aside from happenstance. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:36, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::I don't think this would make a good feature. I mean it's just Strong Bad going to hurt his "friends". Not really interesting outside SB leaving The Poopsmith alone because his crappy job probably gives him a high pain tolerance. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

===[[Compé]]===
I was thinking of saving it until sbemail206 is released, but at the rate the site is going, it probably won't be released. So I guess we should feature it soon, even though it's not developed (no pun intended) and it lacks appearances. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
:It's too soon for this to be featured even if it is SB's first GUI-based computer with rotating wallpapers. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
::Agree with Ngamer. It's not developed enough. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

==General discussion==

===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

[[Category:Featured article maintenance|Selection]]

HRWiki talk:Featured Article Selection

Heimstern Läufer — Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:08:50 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* I don't understand */ correct

==Talk==
To keep the main page cleaner, how do people feel about reserving the majority of the talk section for moving each five week section over here once they've run their course? Does this violate any Wiki standards, or would it keep the main part of this page simpler? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:50, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Maybe we could make an Archive page. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 05:32, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Archives by groups of 5 weeks, perhaps. Don't want the archive to get too lengthy, either. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:38, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::I dunno, I think we could get away with at least 15 or 20 weeks at a time. Nobody really checkes archives all that often anyways. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 12:16, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::Well I'm not really sure of the best way to go about archiving, so whenever we finish up with the first five week block, and move on, feel free to set up some kind of archive system, anyone. (And while you're at it, throw in the discussions at [[HRWiki:Da Basement]] if you want). {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:35, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Milestone emails. ==

This is just a list to keep track on what was featured and what should be.

*1. '''[[some kinda robot]]''' - The first [[Strong Bad Email]]. Start of the [[Tandy]] era
*2. '''[[homsar]]''' - Introduction of [[Homsar]]
*9. '''[[i love you]]''' - Introduction of [[fhqwhgads]]
*11. '''[[i rule]]''' - Introduction of [[Strong Badia]]
*16. '''[[band names]]''' - Introduction of [[Limozeen]] and [[Taranchula]]
*29. [[superhero name]] - Introduction of [[Strong Badman]]
*33. [[gimmicks]] - Explosion of the Tandy
*40. [[vacation]] - End of the Tandy era
*41. [[invisibility]] - Start of the [[Compy 386|Compy]] era
*50. '''[[50 emails]]''' - Email number 50
*53. '''[[comic]]''' - Introduction of [[Teen Girl Squad]]
*57. '''[[japanese cartoon]]''' - Indroduction of [[20X6]]
*58. '''[[dragon]]''' - Introduction of [[Trogdor]]
*80. [[stunt double]] - Introduction of [[Dangeresque]]
*92. [[kind of cool]] - Introduction of [[Senor Cardgage]]
*93. [[army]] - Introduction of [[Cheat Commandos]] and the [[Homestarmy]]
*96. [[lackey]] - Introduction of [[Doreauxgard]]
*97. [[monument]] - Introduction of [[The Thnikkaman]]
*99. '''[[different town]]''' - Collaboration with [[TMBG]]
*100. '''[[flashback]]''' - Email number 100
*117. '''[[montage]]''' - Predicted end of [[The Paper]]
*118. '''[[virus]]''' - End of the Compy era
*119. [[animal]] - Start of the [[Lappy]] era
*125. '''[[rock opera]]''' - A mention of every email until then
*150. '''[[alternate universe]]''' - Email number 150
*159. '''[[retirement]]''' - Return/demise of both the prior computers
*173. [[the paper]] - Retirement of The Paper, and introduction of the [[New Paper]]
*200. '''[[email thunder]]''' - Email number 200
*201. [[hremail3184]] - End of the Lappy era
*203. [[independent]] - Start of the [[Compé]] era
You can add to the list emails you think should be featured as milestones. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:59, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

:I added montage. This may be considered a stretch by some, but I think the chances of us featuring it right around email #172 is a strong likelyhood... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 15:44, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
::I've added army. Seems important to me as the origin of Cheat Commandos, if a bit less so for the introduction of the Homestarmy. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
:::As it turns out, perhaps as much so! Added a few timely additions. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:41, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
::::<s>Updated [[japanese cartoon]].</s>Going senile. Apparently there have been no other nominations from this list fulfilled since then. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:21, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I've corrected my mistaken japanese cartoon coverage. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I added Email Thunder, it is important right? -[[User:Not Dennis|Not Dennis]] 22:34, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Can we remove e-mails from the list? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 05:05, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Why? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:07, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::<s>Because I don't really consider I Rule to be that much of a milestone e-mail, due to its low page hits (it ranks #193 out of 200). And as for Different Town, how is the collabaration with TMBG a milestone? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 08:05, 23 February 2010 (UTC)</s>
::::::::::OK, but clearly someone else thought these were. So please don't remove them. It's not like this list guarantees they'll be featured, anyway; it's just for reference if we're considering featuring an email. So let's just leave them be. 多謝。 {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::Alright, strike all that. My apologies if I was being a bit offensive. :-( [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 09:57, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

==vote==
how do you vote? {{unsigned|Slipknot6477|02:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)}}
:Log in, go to the project page (see the tab above) and add your opinion to the sections. It's less a vote than a discussion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:37, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

== Too early ==

Is it okay for me to leave my idea for the week of October 31, 2007 on this talk page until we reach the proper time to actually vote? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:Can I add my idea to the project page now or should I wait til next week? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::Considering lately we've been having more LATE votes... early is perfect. I'd go for yes. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

==How to do the Lappynapping Saga?==
A question was raised on the project page how to link to something that doesn't have (or even necessarily) need a page— in particular, how to feature the Lappynapping saga. Well, why not create a one off entry? The FA would be a summary of the saga, with links to [[cliffhangers]], [[Lappynapped!]] and [[retirement]]. If [[DNA Evidence (running gag)]] didn't have it's own page, then something similar could be done for that. But, TBC have often mentioned that it's unusual for them to have any continuity or even story arcs, so this would only be used very occasionally. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 05:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
:Here's my question: Is it really a featured article, if it does not have a single mainspace article of which it is a writeup? of course, the idea behind a featured article traditionally has been that we take an article and put a bit of it on the main page, with a link leading to the complete article. Thus, it would be a substantial departure from our practices to make a feature that does not correspond to a specific article.
:We could, of course, consider the possibility of actually having a mainspace article summarizing the entire saga. This would certainly solve the problem of how to feature. We'd have to decide if the idea of a summary article like this is something we like enough to have one. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::Okay... how about we feature [[Lappynapped!]]? It makes the most sense because it's a hidden page, so may not be commonly known. Moreover, it can't stand on it's own, so the write up would have to refer to [[cliffhangers]] and [[retirement]] in order to adequately to explain. It would be a de facto summary of the saga, while answering your concern about featuring a single article. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:02, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:::That's... That's a really great idea. I am impressed by your planning ability. And your remembering this conversation! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Dailies - consensus? ==

We need consensus on when is too often for dailies - evidence [[HRWiki:Featured_Article Selection#HRWiki:Featured_article for 2008, week 22 (May 26-Jun 1)|here]]. How can we determine how often they are appropriate? I'd suggest no more than once every two months, i.e. 6 or less times annually.

Also, how do we determine the worthiness of dailies? Do we throw in crappy articles? Clearly not. Do we throw in short articles? That's be difficult to do well. Do we throw in our best pieces of work? Perhaps not, if they deserve a mention as a weekly, but perhaps so, as what else can be a daily? I think dalies are a great way to break things up and feature a lot at a time, a theme if you will.

That said, another thought: should we tell in the FA writeup this is a daily week, so look each day for a new FA? I think so, otherwise, it's a waste and we might as not even do it.

All thoughts welcome. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:16, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Personally, I think dailies should be done as infrequently as possibly; probably no more than twice a year. Dailies work best when they are thematically related, but honestly, how many groups of seven items of middle importance are there left? The Tandy 400 emails or food related dailies have already been done. As you note, either the remaining articles are either don't warrant featuring on the front page in the first place ''or'' are too important to left be left to a daily, and should be up for an entire week. This would be true most of the landmark emails from the Compy 386 era forward, imho, for example. I think it's something we have perhaps already exhausted the plausible supply of, and any future instances should be done rarely. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::If that becomes consensus, I propose couching language on the main page to reflect that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:59, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Two to three times a year if we think of something what I've always planned on, assuming, that is, that we think of that many sevens, which we may not. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Other Possible Articles ==

A thought occurred to me that I thought would be a good discussion on the talk page: Are we limited to only the main namespace? I'm not suggesting we feature users or anything, but I have occasionally given thought to featuring [[HRWiki:A History]] someday (maybe if we can find what week the wiki was created on, and do an anniversary special). Naturally, we should stick to main namespace articles, but I don't think it would hurt to do our own history once. After all, we're also an important part of the H*R universe, and the Chaps rely on us all the time. Other people's thoughts? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

== Holiday articles ==
When Halloween times roll around, can I be the first to suggest the ideas for those two weeks (that's when we usually do them)? And since we've done [[Summer Short Shorts]] at one time, can we do [[Decemberween Short Shorts]] when it's time for that? [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 19:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:I don't think we really take reservations for first suggestion. From my perspective, I think it might be polite to only make Halloween suggestion and let someone else have a chance to make a suggestion for the other week. A thought. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:15, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::Like you [[HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection#HRWiki:Featured_article_for_2008.2C_week_28_.28Jul_7-13.29|mentioned]] in your own post, let's slow down a bit. There's no need to go so far ahead or make reservations, when the time comes around we'll decide what's best. Who knows, maybe TBC might make a new SBemail or Short that would be more appropriate for the occasion. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:30, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, I know. Except I can't stop thinking about those ideas ahead of time. I had to explain myself somewhere. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 19:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
:::In 2010, for the week that April 30th is in, can I have dibs on picking the article of the week for that week? April 30th is my birthday and 2010 is my golden year. That'd be great, thanks. Okay, I'll go read [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Sarcasm is really helpful|this article]] now. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Oh, boy. ''That's'' a good article {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 02:08, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

==tis true?==

I think the next should be [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]].

{{User:Ninja pom pom/sig}} 21:36, 10 December 2008

Yes! I agree.
--[[User:Marzie500|Marzie500]] 22:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

== Future Writeup ==

Just so everyone's aware of its existance, I [[User:DorianGray/Featured Article: Gavin|took the liberty of doing a writeup]] for [[Gavin]], an article not yet selected, but one I would like to see one day. I've never gotten to suggest an article, but if you guys ever get stuck for time or something, here's one that's already mostly complete. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==Week 16, 2009?==
How come nothing for Week 16 has been put up yet? The article has been written and ready to go. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 06:24, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

==Where is everybody?==
Am I the only one who puts up anything here on the Featured Articles section anymore? [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 15:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

== Where do these summaries go, anyhow? ==

These main page feature articles often summarise the content they feature nicelessly, yet they don't appear in the body of the article. Maybe keep 'em around as a review or summmary of the article?
:[[HRWiki:Featured articles|We do keep them around]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:30, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== Queue ==

What if we had a queue for upcoming featured articles, so that a good article doesn't have to keep being nominated each week until it finds a home. I envision a list that is always about 10 to 20 entries long. Anyone can add something to the bottom of the list (but they should refrain if doing so if it means letting the list get too long). Things can be moved up or down, or even removed entirely, by consensus. A really great article can get moved to the head of the list, or one that's not quite ready could get pushed back a couple of weeks. I'm not sure how all the details would work. I also know that some of our featured articles are time-sensitive, so my suggestion here would need to incorporate them separately somehow. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:47, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

:I think this idea could make FAS a lot smoother. I'm not really sure how it would ''work'', but I was playing with how it might ''look''. Here is one thing I imagined: [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=653343 1]. The markup for that may look kind of hairy, but with some convenient row templates, it could be made very simple to edit. I was going for something that would let people at a glance see what (if anything) had been agreed on for the next month or so, and then a list of a further 10 or so articles that were generally agreed FA-worthy but hadn't been scheduled yet. And a prominent place to mark weeks that had a special timely consideration. I imagined that the list could go at the top of the page, and detailed discussion for reaching consensus would be below it.
:Another idea I was toying with, was to have some "tags" to stick in the list that classified the article. See [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=653344 2]. I abused the <nowiki>{{u}}</nowiki> template just as an example, but those aren't really the right kind of icons. What I had in mind would be a different set of icons representing the "type" of article being featured. Like "character", "toon", "tgs", "ccdos", and so on. I'd guess any article could have more than one of these tags. The only real reason would be to visually see what sort of things were planned to be featured in relation to when similar things are. It's sort of superfluous and maybe just mucks up the list... I'm not sure I really like the tags idea after all. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 14:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

== RE: HRWiki:Featured article for 2009, week 53 (Dec 28-Jan 3) ==

Are we absolutely sure we should show the date like that? We've never had a "week 53" situation before (I suspect that this situation will cause date problems). [[User:Jc iindyysgvxc|Jc iindyysgvxc]] 11:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
:Week 53 is based upon the [[Wikipedia:ISO_week_date|ISO week date]], which MediaWiki uses to keep track of weeks. A "week 53" is not common— it happens 71 times every 400 years— but this year just happens to be one of those years. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 16:25, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

== Possibly Weak Propositions ==

Instead of writing them on the project page, I think that less prominent articles should be suggested here, so as to free up space in the main section.
I'll start. Is [[Strong Mad and Coach Z's Relationship]] worthy of being featured (ever)? --[[User:HRWiki Greg|FIFTH GREG! HRWiki Greg]] 02:38, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
:At present, the opening of the article is not nearly long enough. In terms of prominence, I've got nothing against featuring obscure stuff if it's properly fit to feature; indeed I rather like putting unusual stuff on the Main Page. So basically, if you want it featured, it could theoretically be done, but you'll need to expand the intro about tenfold. Currently, that's a dealbreaker. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:36, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
::I've extended the intro; Is it long enough now? --[[User:HRWiki Greg|FIFTH GREG! HRWiki Greg]] 06:49, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

== Potential revamp ==

Surgeon General's Warning: the following post contains large quantities of words, and may be hazardous to your health.

The discussion here has tended to go a bit off-track... with the way featured articles are chosen now, pages that would have consensus to be featured often never are, because someone comes in once the discussion's gotten going with a different suggestion, and the discussion switches tracks. Also, it's too easy for a vocal minority or even a single person to (even in good faith) completely overrun the suggestions, and drown out other contributors' voices... just by making a suggestion every week.

The major problem, I think, is that the discussions are grouped by the week... but most of the time, the week isn't important. If we had featured [[SBLOUNSKCHED! Bar]] next week instead of this week, it wouldn't really have mattered. And if there was something that was popular, and it gets one-upped by something that's even more popular, that first thing should still be considered a promising candidate for the next week... rather than having to be re-suggested from scratch many weeks later.

So, I propose: ditch the weekly sections, and replace them with one section per page that's up for discussion. Instead of a section for this week and a section for next week, and so on, have a section for [[SBLOUNSKCHED! Bar]], and a section for [[The Virus]], and a section for [[Gavin]], and so on.

New suggestions can be added by anyone to the list... this should help stem the ability for people to flood the conversation, since there doesn't need to be exactly one new suggestion per week... both removing the urge to post a suggestion every single week (since there's no empty section that "needs" to be filled) and also allowing more than one suggestion to be made in a single week (so just because you've made a suggestion doesn't mean I can't make one too). This will probably lead to a large influx of suggestions at first, but I think it'll be self-limiting, as people will add fewer sections when there's a lot of them there already. Then, when there's consensus to feature an article, it can be moved to a "queue" list at the top of the page (which would just be a list of links, say to both the page in question and the section where it was discussed, and also the main page template for that week - being the week following whatever is above it in the queue). Perhaps also a note added to the top of the section, saying it's been added to the queue, so people know they don't need to keep discussing it. Then, each week, the entry at the top of the queue will go live, automatically like it does now, and it can be removed from the list. Regularly (shouldn't have to be too often), the sections for all the pages that ended up being featured, all the sections that have consensus to not feature, and all the sections that ground to a halt with no consensus and haven't been updated in a sufficiently long time, would be archived, like they are now.

The idea being that a good suggestion won't distract from another also-good suggestion... and once a good page has been suggested and agreed upon by consensus, it will in due time be featured as it floats to the top of the list. Meanwhile, pages that could be good but need work can keep their section, and have the usual discussions in there about what needs to be changed to make it featureable (with discussions about specific changes going on the article's talk page, of course). Then, when it's dragged up to scratch, it can be added to the queue just like any other page. This will help drive eyes to pages that are OK but not great, and make them better (improving the KB in the process).

Some notes for special cases:
* Weeks where we feature 7 small articles on a daily basis, rather than one for the whole week (or even that time we featured 14 articles over a fortnight), can still be done - just create one section to discuss the whole block, and if it's agreed on, add it to the queue as a whole block. This should flow through the same as any other suggestion.
* On the occasion we do want to feature something on a specific week (like Halloween-themed articles around that time of year) then the queue can be tinkered with... if there's consensus in the discussion, the page can be inserted on the appropriate week, rather than just added to the end of the list.
* The process only covers the normal cases, but it should be made clear there'd be room for exceptions... so while the process would be followed 95% of the time, if anything exciting happened, TBC made some announcement and we wanted to feature an article in response to that, then we could certainly do it. No-one would be indef-blocked for suggesting queue-jumping, in exceptional circumstances.

So anyway, that's my proposal. Thoughts? Suggestions? Changes? This is only a first draft of the idea, feel free to point out any pitfalls or suggest improvements. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:56, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:Seems not unreasonable. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.208|132.183.140.208]] 18:01, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::I agree with this idea. So much, in fact, that I had the same idea [[#Queue|a year ago]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:I basically agree with this proposal. A potential hazard to consider: Without specified dates, anyone is effectively free to make however many suggestions they want, which could quickly make the page unwieldy. If we added a limit to how many discussions can be on the page at once, we have the same problem again: People try to rush to be the first to add a new suggestion once one is removed. One possible solution should this problem materialize would be a per-user limit on suggestions (even if no limit is adopted, I would suggest that under normal situations, users limit themselves to a reasonable number of suggestions on the page at once, perhaps only two or so). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:23, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
::I think the idea is shot-worthy. Let's try it out and work out any kinks as we get along. Heimstern: How about before going "live", we can try it out for 3-4 weeks to get the queue filled up. If after that time the page is too unwieldy, we'll put one of the restrictions you suggested. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 19:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

:::I disagree with this idea, for three reasons:

:::#We've done it this way for over five years.
:::#Everything will have to be archived differently.
:::#The Wiki is not as popular as it used to be (we should not have a big change to something in a time of inactivity like this).

:::{{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Those reasons are entirely unconvincing.
::::#So? That kind of reasoning would mean we can never improve anything we've been doing for a long time.
::::#Minor detail. Not going to be a problem to work that out.
::::#While we may be fairly inactive concerning new content, FAs are chugging along just like normal. There's no reason not to do it now (indeed, a time of inactivity is a good time, since we're not spending our time elsewhere).
::::{{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:41, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::So I made a proof-of-concept of what the page might look like if we were to make the change today, in [{{FULLURL:HRWiki:Sandbox|oldid=704180}} the sandbox] ([{{FULLURL:HRWiki:Sandbox|diff=704180&oldid=704169}} diff]) – note that I tried to keep all the conversations together, and not delete anything, so that's not exactly how it would look after being in operation for a while... in particular, I've left in things where many suggestions are all made at once (which wouldn't be the focus after the revamp – rather than looking around for a good article to use in a given week, we'd be focusing more on the articles individually), or where references are made to "this week" (eg "I prefer this suggestion for this week over this other suggestion" which obviously wouldn't come up any more, as the articles aren't directly competing with one another). I also had to split up a couple of comments over two sections, but I think it still worked.
:::::In other news, replying to RickTommy:
:::::# If one way was just as good as the other, then tradition would matter... but when one way is better than the other, then it's worth doing it that way even if it goes against tradition. Tradition is an argument against pointless changes, but it can't be an argument against real improvements.
:::::# I don't see archiving changing that much. The queue itself doesn't need to be archived at all, since there's no information on it that isn't already on [[HRW:FA]]... and the discussions can be archived in the usual way, just move them to an archive page once there's a lot of dead discussions... same as [[Talk:Main Page]] and many other discussion pages.
:::::# As Heimi said, a lull is the best time to switch over, as it will cause less disruption while people are settling in to the new setup... people have a chance to focus mostly on this and getting it to work, rather than also working on other things at the same time.
:::::{{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:13, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've also thrown together [{{FULLURL:HRWiki:Sandbox|oldid=704185}} another example] for what it would look like with a longer queue... the format isn't fixed (neither is anything else, at this point) and could certainly be simplified with a couple of templates. For the purposes of filling out the queue for the example, I closed a whole bunch of the discussions that we wouldn't usually... that just had one or two people saying anything, and that was recently... that is just so that you can see what it would look like with more things in the queue, not saying we would close discussions that flippantly for real. Exactly how much discussion we'd need before closing a discussion is probably something we'll figure out over time, from experience... it will probably vary, based on how much of a backlog we have in the queue... if it's starting to dry up, we'll probably start closing things quicker to make sure we have some buffer in there. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:53, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't want to let the discussion on this die like it did last time this was brought up... does anyone else have any comments or suggestions? I'd like to hear from some of the other FAS regulars, even if only a "I do/don't like it" (though preferably more, of course). The other question that needs to be answered is how we switch over... I see a couple of options:
# We could switch over entirely one day (probably a Monday, just after the FA goes live), just replace all the discussion section with new ones grouped by toon... like I did in the proof-of-concept in the sandbox I linked before. This will let us switch to the new version more quickly, but we'll only have a week to start filling in the queue before the next FA needs to be ready.
# We could keep the discussions in their current form for the ones we already have, but put any ''new'' suggestions into the new format. So, in 10 weeks time, we'll have gone through the existing discussions and start pulling things off the queue. Means we don't have to do much to switch over, just add the new sections, but it'd mean a long time before the queue actually starts getting used.
# We could take a mix of both options - keep a handful (say, 3 or 4) weeks worth of the discussions in their current format, and convert all the later ones into the new format. So we still have a few weeks to start building up the queue, but we can still dive into the new system straight away rather than waiting for a long time for the current discussions to fall off the page.
I think option 3 is the best. Week 23 is currently live, and 24 will go up soon... we can keep, say, 25 through 27 up, and convert 28 onwards to the new format... and the first page to go onto the queue would go live on 12 July for Week 28 (a month from today). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:12, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:I, for one, really like the idea and like {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=704180 Phlip's}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=704185 mockups}}. I may have a slightly altered mockup in mind but I'm not sure if I'll get a chance to present it. Besides these mockup look workable enough. As for the transition method I prefer #3: stick to the current method for the next week or two while the rest of the discussions are transformed into the new method. I look forward to seeing the implementation! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:41, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::Tryin' to keep the conversation alive again... I'll take the silence from the other FAS regulars that they have no complaints... if there's no new suggestions in, say, a week, then I think this can be pushed out. At that time, Week 26 will be about to happen... and we can keep, say, 27-29 in the current format, and 30-32 can be changed into the new format. The discussion for week 30 (which will become a discussion for [[Everybody to the Limit]]) can be closed straight away, so the queue can be created with 1 item in it already. That's my current plan, at least, unless someone comes up with a better one. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:56, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm not a FAS regular, but I had nothing to add, but kind words of encouragement. I think your idea is great :). {{User:Elcool/sig}} 06:08, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
::::It occurred to me, do all the regulars know about this discussion? It's not like you'd need this page group on your watchlist to keep up with the article selection. Should we put a notice somewhere on the project page? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm a little late to the discussion, but I think this is a great idea. {{User:Power Pie/sig}}
:Another reason I think it's a bad idea: more often than not, there's a particular week of a year that I want a particular article featured. Now how am I supposed to say "I want article X featured on week Y"? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:04, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
::By saying "I think article X should be featured on week Y". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:12, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay, I have a better idea: how about using both formats? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 09:38, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::::What would be improved by doing that? It would merely mean twice the work, for little (if any) benefit. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:52, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Now that this has been in full swing for a while, there's two thingss i'm a tad confused about. First off, when a consensus is no, (as is the case of [[HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection#Strong_Bad_Sings|Strong Bad Sings]]) can sections be removed? And also, there is as of now 19 suggestions on the page. did the 10 week limit get removed, or were people just excited about the change that they just began to suggest a lot more things? {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 01:12, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

== Revamp'd format suggestion ==

Okay guys, so i have a suggestion for enhancing the new format: Given the less-than-linear format of the new FA system, and that a few of the FA articles have been written for potentially future FAs, why not utilize the HRW namespace to keep drafts of these ready for use when the FA comes? So, for [[Gavin]] (for example) we'd have <code><nowiki>[[HRWiki:FA for Gavin]]</nowiki></code> or something like that. We could then automatically link to those from the queue and/or discussion. We could even ask that those who make suggestions can help write them as they make the suggestion. Once the articles make the queue, it's just a simple matter of moving or redirecting the page. What do you guys think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:34, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:I think it would be <code><nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured Article for Gavin]]</nowiki></code>, but instead of that, how about <code><nowiki>[[Featured:Gavin]]</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>[[Featured Article:Gavin]]</nowiki></code>? It would also change to, say, [[Featured [Article]:2010, week 32]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::I like the idea. A <code><nowiki>[[Featured:]]</nowiki></code> would be nice and it would make managing, finding and listing FAs much easier. In addition to that it looks like we may need an intermediate process where we can debate and choose (perhaps vote on, even) which articles will be added to the queue. Such a system shouldn't be too complex, but that coupled with the per-artcile FA writeups (and asking that suggestions also include writeups) would make short- and long-term FA planning and maintenance easier and less of a last-minute thing. Opinions? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:52, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I really think it should be something as simple as having trusted users decide which articles have consensus and add those to the queue. If necessary, this action could be restricted to only sysops to be sure only trusted users make the decisions, though I'd rather we allowed non-sysops capable of determining consensus to participate, too. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:34, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Good idea. Pretty much every article featured since the introduction of the new format has not had consensus; I feel that this has been a conflict of interest. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:28, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

== My two cents ==

After about two months on the new format, I think I have a few things to suggest. I know I'm not a regular on this page, but I've been observing, and I think there are some issues that need addressing. Firstly, the new format all but eliminates the need for a [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations|nominations page]], since that was mostly used to give ideas for weeks when no article was already suggested. Since the current selection process is essentially nominating articles, the nominations page can probably go. Also, it seems to me that the current attitude towards this page is less about choosing articles that represent the community's work and more about choosing articles that cover topics important in the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. I don't think this attitude is the proper way to think about which articles deserve to be featured. If the community wrote an [[Polymascotfoamalate|awesome article about something that is only a minor part of the universe]], I'd say it is more worthy of a feature than [[The Reddest Radish|a classic 'toon with less than twenty fun facts]]. Finally, I think many users are taking too much of an egotistical approach to this page. I think this page needs to be less about being the one to suggest articles that get featured, and more about establishing group consensus on which articles in our wiki deserve the title. If we all limited ourselves to one or two suggestions per month, and concentrated more on discussing already suggested articles, we would establish much better consensus much faster and with less clutter. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 19:27, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
:I think the nominations page has been obsolete for years, not just since the format changed here. I'm all for featuring awesome articles ([[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]] comes to mind as one that went from nothing to awesome very quickly was featured because of this), but I also don't have a problem with featuring a topic simply because it's important in the universe (assuming at least minimum standards for the article); after all, concerning an article, in our featured template we say that we "might just think it's cool". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:41, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
::dc - if the nominations page is so obsolete, was [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AFeatured_Article_Selection&diff=707763&oldid=707761 this] [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AFeatured_Article_Selection&diff=707765&oldid=707764 edit] incorrect? Do you know if [[Answering Machine]] has been featured/if it is easy to look up if you don't know (which i'm not assuming you know)? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:38, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:::The nominations page isn't obsolete in the sense that it [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Nominations&action=history isn't updated]. However, the foolproof way of determining if an article has been featured ''should'' be to check the top of the talk page. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:41, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, i knew that. i just wasn't thinking. I also wasn't thinking about that when i linked the articles. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:44, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Another thing I'm noticing: There doesn't seem to be a policy or guideline in place for when to ''remove'' a nomination. There are several on the page currently that haven't been commented on in months where the consensus seems to be to reject the article, but they're still on the page. Do they need to be archived in some way? Should they be removed, or should they be left open for when the article improves in quality? Should we assume that that might happen? I think that, if we decide they should be archived, we just move them to the article's talk page. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:35, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
:Are the discussions for articles that did get featured archived somewhere? If so, the rejected discussions could be stored in the same place. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.89.147|93.207.89.147]] 09:02, 12 October 2010 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)

== Protection ==

No one seems to do the protection stuff anymore; should those be removed from the checklist? [[Special:Contributions/119.252.166.26|119.252.166.26]] 05:38, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
:And even if they shouldn't, should we at least reword them for users who aren't sysops? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:05, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Change of pace ==

OK, FAS is totally neglected these days. I'm as guilty as the next person, but then, we are all volunteers. In this new world of very few site updates and a corresponding lack of user interest, I think FAS as we know it is no longer tenable. So, I suggest a revamp of some sort. The possibilities I see are:
#Scrap it completely. With the lack of interest, this really may be the best option, though we'd need to redesign the main page for this to work.
#Move over to monthly FAs instead of weekly. The main concern I have about this is that I'm not sure our drive to maintain FAS is even up to monthly FAs anymore.
#Instead of choosing new FAs, just repeat older ones. This could be combined with the above suggestion, and does reduce our workload a bit, though we'd still have to get enough drive to maintain it.

Please note that, regardless of what happens, I do not anticipate being heavily involved in maintaining our featured article process as I have been in the past. I've gotten tired of the job and the rubbish that comes with it, and real life is busier than it used to be.

So, let's talk about what should be done here. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
:I think rerunning old articles would be preferable to scrapping it or moving to a monthly schedule. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
::How 'bout a hybrid? New articles every first week of the month, reruns the other three. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:13, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

:::I suspect that this has to do with the change of format. The old format had more of a deadline for when the FA summaries should be created, so maybe if we changed back?
:::Heimstern: In response to the idea of a main page redesign, it would look something like this: [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&curid=49237&diff=718049&oldid=718046&rcid=679408]
:::Martyo: It would work better the other way 'round.
:::{{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Ha! We knew ''you'd'' say that. No, there's nothing wrong with the new format. We'd have this same problem under the old format, because the problem has to do with diminished interest. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

== Rule suggestion ==
I have noticed that many of the recent Featured Articles have been decided based on solely one or two people approving the article. I understand that we're in a bit of a crunch time right now in terms of the popularity of this page as well as the whole wiki, but I have a new rule suggestion: in order for a new article to be featured, at least two or three people, depending on the amount of input, must approve the article. Thoughts? [[User:Doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 00:11, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
:That'd be making a rule we can't fulfill, because very few people are actually participating in FAS. Adding a rule isn't going to drum up interest in this page. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:00, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
::I completely understand. Thanks for the input anyway. [[User:Doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 22:00, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

== Redirects ==

I've always hated the redirected FAs, but this week in particular has brought this issue into sharp focus: What if the FA being redirected to happens to contain outdated info (like this one does) or is a daily one instead of a weekly one? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:38, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
:This is a wiki, is it not? The old featured article is not protected, is it? If it contains outdated information, ''then fix it''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:31, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
::So the issue is not archived, but protected? b/c i had a similar question [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:Featured_articles&diff=prev&oldid=716922 here] that went unanswered, and i have since forgotten what i was going to do with the answer. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 04:20, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
:::The old featured writeups are not protected. If you find an outright error, I don't see why it can't be fixed. As for this week's article, where it was correct back when it was originally featured but now is outdated, there's nothing stopping us from copying the old data onto a new page and then updating it. In fact, [[HRWiki:Featured article for 2011, week 45|I've now done that]]. Someone, please, feel free to make it current. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

== Sbemail write-ups ==

I have drafted write-ups for many Strong Bad Emails that have not yet been featured ([[User:RickTommy/Sbemailwriteups]]). But I'm very sure most of them need to be reviewed. Could someone please review them? Note that I have also made that page open to public editing, so as well as editing the write-ups I've already written, you can add your own write-ups if you want. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:40, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

== I don't understand ==

Seriously, why is everyone letting FAS die? I'm trying to ''save'' FAS here.

*Some of my write-ups get reverted due to lack of consensus. Because of the lack of users who participate in FAS these days, I don't think consensus is that important.
*What is with the redirected FAs, anyway? I ''really - do - not - understand'' why we have redirected FAs instead of just thinking of whichever article currently on FAS should be featured.
*We have not done a daily for over one-and-a-half years, and now we only have next week to do one before the end of the year. I ''really'' do not want this daily to be pushed to next year.
*I already have written several write-ups [[User:RickTommy/Sbemailwriteups|here]]; why not just pick one from that list?

Sorry for ranting, but I am really, really confused as to why everyone is letting FAS die instead of helping me revive it. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:26, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
:#Having a brand-new FA every week is not as important as having the community agree that an article is '''worthy''' of being featured. As such, '''consensus is more important than ever'''.
:#The redirected FAs are because those are articles that '''already got consensus''' of being worthy. It's like a tv show, they don't necessarily have a new episode every week, and during the off weeks, the stations fill that gap with reruns. They don't try to churn out mediocre, substandard episodes at the last minute. Also, in this situation, the majority of people who view the rerun never saw the original time it was featured (you yourself certainly weren't around then) and there's no chronology to the series, so it doesn't matter what FA you see in what order.
:#Once again, there's no requirement to do an annual set of dailies. If there is a good daily idea that receives '''consensus''', we'll do it, but the concept of dailies is actually much rarer than it is common. There's no reason to try to force through a set of dailies before the end of the year.
:#It's a nice Idea, but I'm not sure all those emails are worth featuring.
:no one's "letting FA die". There's still an FA every week, and the weeks we've gained enough interest in featuring a new article, we do. Having a lone user make unilateral decisions about a project without the support of the rest of the community is far more damaging to a project than lack of development in a certain area. I hope that helps. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:24, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it's time to give FAs a rest for a while. We could use the space for something new or we could have the system load a random featured article from the archives. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:14, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I'm going to second It's dot com. With no new input from people on FAS, no new content from TBC, and declining interest in H*R due to lack of new content from TBC, it's time for FAS to be let go for now. The question is do we want classic FAs on the main page or for the entire FA space to be archived in favor of putting the extra space on the main page to some other use (like HR Wiki news that could cover wiki and forum related news and announcements)? — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 19:14, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
::::I feel I should add, three sections up, it was suggested that the very rule you're using against me be implemented, but it was stated that it can't be fulfilled because of the lack of users participating in FAS. So what do you have to say about that? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:14, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
::::Also agree with putting FA to rest, possibly forever since TBC don't seem interested in coming back to making regular Homestar updates anytime soon. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:59, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

It appears that this has been brought up again. Once again, what's the point in waiting for consensus when it's clear as day that we're not going to get any? If this is going to continue, then yeah, I think we should kill off FAS as well. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:01, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:The fact that there is significantly diminished interest in FAs does not diminish nor does it eliminate the need to establish consensus when deciding what articles to feature. Whilst there may be only a handful of people involved in the FA process, that serves as no reason to ignore and negate their feedback in order to serve the interests of an individual. If the net effect of our actions is that no action is taken, so be it: disinterest in the process does not eliminate the need for the process. There are reasons why it is there in the first place. If the process leads us to eliminating FAs then so bet it: that is the decision; but that is a different matter that warrants a separate discussion (to which I must comment: replace it with what? I personally I'm inclined to automatic redirects to the past). That said, consensus must still be observed. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:23, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
::Well, I'll say this again: three sections up, it was suggested that this very rule be implemented, but Heimstern said that it couldn't be fulfilled because of the lack of interest in this project. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:40, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:::Let me see if I can clarify the issue for you. The rule three sections up that was suggested required 2-3 users to support an article before it could be featured. While ideal, this suggestion is impractical because very few people participate in FA selection these days, thus making the rule unenforceable. What happened this week was that '''''you''''' pushed for an FA whose discussion included a suggestion for a different article. What i mean by this is that the discussion had established two different opinions and so no clear consensus was established. We have featured articles with less discussion in the past, but when it is clear that there is no consensus then it should be no reason to proceed unilaterally. (We're pretty much in maintenance mode for lack of a better term, and as I've mentioned before, the future of FA is an entirely different discussion altogether.) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:11, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
::::Stux - the [[20X6 vs. 1936|different article]] you mentioned in the discussion for this week ended up being used as the featured article last week (which was partly my doing). That said, I wasn't aware that Wormdingler had been nominated when RickTommy created the FA page. Somehow, i do remember the other article suggested against it and RickTommy asking why. (maybe i didn't pay attention to the one-word post?) Anyway, i was surprised to see Wormdingler's FA page for that reason. and when I looked it up on the FAS page, it wasn't blatant that it had been suggested, and it definitely didn't have consensus. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:39, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::This is exactly what I mean by "letting FAS die". I am sick of the redirects! I am ''sick'' of them! Are there any articles here, at the moment, that have what you define as consensus? [[Special:Contributions/58.167.46.232|58.167.46.232]] 20:48, 15 January 2012 (UTC) ([[User:RickTommy]])
::::::RickTommy - What I don't understand is why you're sick of redirects. Perhaps you'd like to explain that a bit more? Because just saying that you are doesn't get us very far. Since it's proving harder to establish consensus right now, it is not currently important that we have a brand new featured article every week. There is nothing wrong with reusing an article that was featured in the younger days of the wiki. In fact, I think it's wise to do so, since as it was stated before, they have gained consensus, and nothing has changed to make them any less featurable now. I agree with DF about the tv show analogy ''and'' with his reminder that you weren't here when they were originally featured. Do you spend your time doing an in-depth study of all the write-ups for all the articles that have been featured already? If not, then I don't understand your problem re-featuring an article that has an established consensus (unless you can give a different very good reason when you explain why you're so sick of the redirects). In fact, one idea i suggested once as a compromise for the downtime was to start hanging on to which article we feature for more than a week at a time rather than redirecting to a past FA. What do you think of that idea? b/c we're running out of usable articles much faster than I had anticipated when i made that suggestion {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 22:06, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::::WARNING: This post is long.
:::::::Well, I'm sick of redirects for several reasons. One, as stated above, some of the old FA summaries contain outdated info. Two, many of the old FA summaries are short by the standards of more recent FA summaries. And three, I just find them ridiculous. As for your compromise, Knights, I'm not so sure, but I have suggested a similar idea:
::::::<blockquote>once all the important articles are done, change to daily articles, and do every article except the ones that definitely cannot be featured (such as disambiguations and censored articles), then we do re-runs or just tie a big bow on the project altogether.</blockquote>
:::::::As for consensus: This is turning out to be the opposite of how I felt in 2010, when an article got featured when I felt it didn't deserve the honour, and I was screaming that it didn't have consensus. In case you don't remember what I'm talking about, here's the thread about the issue: [[User talk:RickTommy/Archive#FAS again]]. And now the opposite is true: I feel that consensus has a lower definiton due to how many participate in FAS these days, and yet everyone else still thinks we should go by the older definition of consensus. Why would I even ''want'' to suggest that rule three sections up? I never said I was in favour of it; I said that it was suggested and that it cannot be enforced. And yet it ''is'' being enforced.
:::::::On the subject of the daily, it has been a looooong time since the last one, and I seriously think it should be done soon - after all, like I said, we should switch to dailies once all the important articles are done. I would also like to point out that the last daily was when we still had the old format; we have not done a single one under the new format.
:::::::On the subject of the format: I still think it was a bad idea to change the format during the hiatus. (Speaking of the hiatus, how do you even ''pronounce'' that word?) Though I dislike the new format either way, it wouldn't have bothered me so much if it was changed during a time when H*R was still active. Plus, we always seemed to have consensus under the old format.
:::::::By the way, there are two comments in FAS archives that still piss me off; in case you're wondering what they are, I link to them in the "Things that annoy me" section on my userpage. "Good. Also, I beat RickTommy." I was ''not'' "beaten"; I did not post for that week because I was told not to. "Oh and also, RickTommy, stop with all the suggestions please." Not only did it not belong on the page, but it's humiliating to have my intelligence insulted by this ''kid''. Those two comments may be archived, but can they please be removed or reworded?
:::::::As for the list of milestone emails at the top of the page: what actually constitutes a milestone email? Do we list emails that are the first appearance of an important part of the H*R universe, as well as the big ones (50, 100, 125, 150, and 200), or do we list each one that has so much as the first time Strong Bad swings his arm down? Because by that logic, every single Sbemail belongs on the list. (Now, [[i rule]] may have been the first appearance of Strong Badia, but it's not really that notable for that reason. I personally think it was a coincidence that it was the first appearance of SBadia; on the contrary, it's obvious that Homsar, 20X6, Trogdor etc. were intended to appear for the first time in their respective emails.)
:::::::As for Ngamer01's suggestion, what sort of wiki/forum-related news and announcements, exactly?
:::::::Now that was a lot to share with you guys. I hope you all understand my frustration. Good night. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:48, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
::::::::One, if the old summaries contain outdated info, then copy the content and fix them, instead of just redirecting. Two, I don't see the claim about length to be true, or even a problem. Three, "they're ridiculous because they're ridiculous" is a tautology and not very helpful to making a case, so I'm going to simply ignore this one.
::::::::Featuring every article on the site is not only a bad idea, it's a TERRIBLE idea. Even if they are done as dailies. And why, in your estimation, does doing reruns after featuring everything indiscriminately make the reruns more acceptable?
::::::::As for that "article that didn't deserve the honor", you've been told many times that simply saying "i think X" or "I don't think Y" without giving a reason does nothing toward building consensus, and thus gets largely ignored when closing discussions. (Your "I find them ridiculous" tautology is in the same vein, and is being similarly ignored.) "Consensus" never had a "higher" or "lower" or "older" or "newer" definition. There is only one [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/consensus definition of consensus] and that is "Majority of opinion; general agreement or concord; harmony." In the context of this wiki, that means "the general opinion is vastly toward one direction and all outstanding objections have been logically overruled". Note again that an "outstanding objection" is not "i don't think so" but "i don't think so because well-thought-out and logical argument". You can't logically overrule an opinion that doesn't give a reason.
::::::::Once again, '''there is no reason to try to force through a daily if there aren't any worth featuring'''. I know dailies are fun. I myself had a blast [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 11-20#HRWiki:Featured article for 2010, week 18 (May 3-9)|working on the two-week Dangeresque character daily back in 2010]], but there's no NECESSITY for them, and unless a good set is suggested, it's not going to happen. And no, we're not going to feature every article as dailies "just 'cause".
::::::::The switch being a bad idea is your opinion, and was overruled by... duh duh daaaaaaaah! '''consensus'''. That's right, that word you hate so much, but that is the backbone of every community-driven project in the world rears its magnificent head again. And in fact, making a major systems change is a BETTER idea when business is slow, because it causes less confusion in the switchover. You're the only one who seems confused by it. And I think the lack of consensus on FA doesn't come from the new system as much as it does the continuing decline of interest in the site, the wiki, and FA's specifically. Is it sad? yes. Is there anything we can do about it? Not without featuring a bunch of pointless articles just because we have nothing better to feature, which in my opinion (and probably the opinion of everyone else but you), is more hurtful than helpful. The old FAs were and are worth featuring. What you propose is not.
::::::::About those comments, they are part of the discussion because it shows how other wiki users reacted to YOUR behavior, which, as you were told, was unacceptable. It's not the policy of the wiki to change other people's talk posts for anything except blatant personal attacks (which these aren't, they're just valid responses to things you said and did), use of expletives, or vandalism. To be quite candid, much of the decision to switch the format was a result of the same kind of behavior that led to those comments.
::::::::Ask about milestone emails in a separate thread please (perhaps [[#Milestone emails.|the thread itself]]?) and don't sneak it in in the middle of something totally different... you do this a lot. Talk about something totally unrelated to the talk page/thread you're in and then expect a response, and it's difficult for people to notice or care when it's not in a relevant place.
::::::::I agree that there's not likely to be much news, and that replacing FA with that would be a waste of space (SB: I said a waste of ''fat'' space), but that doesn't mean your suggestion is any good either. And no, I still can't say I understand your frustration. Keep your pants on, this is just a wiki about dumb animal characters. When you think about it, it's not all THAT important, and certainly not worth getting quite this upset over. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:04, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::::RickTommy - regarding the compromise: Do you really want what you're asking for? First, it's not similar to mine; it's the exact opposite. Second, the problem is that we are running out of usable articles, and fast. Your suggestion is to do nothing about it; just keep going as fast as we're currently going, then switch to a set of FAs that goes ''seven times as fast'' as the "too fast" that we're already experiencing. After all, you seem to enjoy the Featured Article project, and your idea is to terminate it ASAP, and it doesn't make any sense for you to suggest that something you enjoy be terminated so soon. My idea was to slow the process down a good bit, which would (1) allow it to keep going for longer than the current rate projects, and (2) decrease the need for redirects. And logically, it seems like you'd prefer both of those. Am i missing something? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 03:45, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Looks like I have to bring this up again. "[I'm] trying to shove this through at the very last moment"?! Not only is it ''not'' the very last moment, but even if it was, that's irrelevent to whether it should be "shoved through". And in reply to some of the comments above:
::::::::Did you actually read the original versions of those comments? If not, I'll link to them right here: [[http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection/Discussion_Archive_2010_Weeks_21-30#Everybody_to_the_Limit]] [[http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection/Discussion_Archive_2010_Weeks_31-40#No_Hands_on_Deck.21]] The first one was a complete falsehood (I was ''not'' "beaten"!); the second one was a form of ordering around, from a user who is ''younger'' than me, which didn't belong there anyway.
::::::::And yes, I do want what I'm asking for. I do enjoy this project, but if we speed it up so we can terminate it ASAP, it's win-win in the long run. We won't have to maintain it anymore, and I won't have to get angry whenever we have a redirect.
::::::::And as for articles being "usable" "or pointless", I would just like to point out that we feature a certain article, and I quote, "[because] it showcases an important part of the Homestar Runner body of work and/or highlights the fine work of this wiki. We also might just think it's cool."
::::::::And last but not least, I will be away for the next couple of weeks, and I will probably have limited Internet access (if any). So during that time, could you please be fair on me regarding this project? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:10, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::You don't "''have'' to" bring up anything. If you ''want'' to continue acting like a child, that's your prerogative. The fact remains that there was no reason for you to try to change it to your way at the last minute when A: the rerun FA had ''already'' been not only created, but updated for current times and B: you could just as easily have created it for ''next'' week and it'd have shown up then instead. We have far more weeks in the future than articles to feature (hence the situation) so there's really no reason to throw something together at the last minute when you can take your time on a writeup and give people at least a week to improve, comment, and collaborate rather than putting something up last minute that could really be improved if given more of a chance. And before you start talking about how you hate the redirects and you were only trying to make sure we have a "real" FA this week, let me remind you again that that ''no one'' on this wiki aside from you considers the rerun FAs to be any less "real" than newly created ones.
:::::::::I ''did'', in fact, read the comments, and they're relatively benign really. So what if it's not actually true that you weren't beaten? She didn't know that. All she ''did'' know at the time was that you'd been dominating the suggestions for several weeks previous, and was apparently, rightly, glad to have been able to make a suggestion before you. The second one was also, a quite correct request for you to stop trying to control FA. I was unaware of any rule on the wiki that said that younger users are not allowed to make polite requests of older users. However, if you want to talk about age, let me hit you with a slightly different, yet largely related word, which is the real issue here. "Maturity". Quite frankly, the person who made the comment you're complaining about has been, as a wiki user, somewhat more mature and responsible in his behavior and his interactions with others than you have. On the other hand, your notions about how to deal with others and "I'm older so I'm better" are remarkably ''im''mature, as is your getting worked up over minutiae such as this. I strongly suggest you quit harping on about those comments and move on. The less you continue to complain about them, the more they'll disappear into the obscurity of the discussion archives. Seriously. It's time to drop it.
:::::::::We don't need to feature as many articles as we possibly can before terminating FA. In fact, there is a discussion below concerning how to retire FA, though the process of switching over is likely to take quite a while even if and when we flesh out the idea and get consensus for it. That said, in the meantime, you don't "''have'' to" get angry every time we have a redirect, and we're not going to make a major change to the current methods just to keep you from getting angry about a project which the rest of us take lightheartedly and in good humor.
:::::::::You are correct that the reason to feature articles is as you quoted, however, different users have different opinions on what parts of the Homestar Runner body of work are "important", what constitutes "the fine work of this wiki", and what's just plain "cool". That's the entire point of having a selection process and requiring consensus. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with this.
:::::::::Lastly, I don't know what you mean by "being fair on you" regarding this project while you're away, but it sounds like you're worried that in your absence we'll be plotting against you and doing things specifically just to hurt you. I assure you that no one on this project is out to get you, and that all anyone cares about is maintaining a quality wiki. In actuality, if you're not here, it's much easier for us not to butt heads with you. I leave you to ponder what's been said. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:23, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Now I have something else to add. First of all, regarding some flawed logic: for example, this week, Ngamer01 could've supported or opposed the article that was suggested this week, but he just redirected to the old FA and did not give his opinion on the article that was suggested.
::::::::::Second of all, I don't even want outdated FAs to be up-to-date, because of a little something called ''preservation''. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:58, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::You seem to be conveniently missing a big point behind this situation: a few weeks ago I reverted your FA push because you added something to the queue merely ''hours'' before the article switchover in order to justify switching the FA from a rerun to an article of your choosing. That barely gives anyone much time to provide any alternatives to push to the queue or comment. Defender clearly pointed this out in the paragraph above and even suggested that we allow items to sit in the queue for a least a week before it's actually featured. This time you created an FA of your choosing just a little over ''two days'' before featuring (I'm sure you're aware the FA switches over Sunday afternoon Eastern time). So, this is a matter of not having an individual unilaterally dominating the FA and for providing people with ample time to express their own opinions (even if there is no one there to provide it).
:::::::::::As for outdated FAS: we're not altering the original FA, so that is preserved. This is a wiki, so all history is preserved (even some spam!). Updating the outdated FA is a matter of providing the ''correct'', up-to-date information on our main page. It baffles me as to why you'd find that so objectionable. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:50, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::I'd add that the logic is not flawed. The rules, as they stand, are as follows:
::::::::::#Someone may suggest a specific article.
::::::::::#If an article has enough support, it may be added to the queue.
::::::::::#If an article has enough refusal, it never gets featured.
::::::::::#If an article has no consensus either way, it remains under discussion.
::::::::::#If there is a week in which no articles have enough support, a redirect or updated FA is created.
::::::::::This means that an article without enough support doesn't "not get featured". It just means it won't be featured ''right now''. According to the rules, followed logically, step by step; You suggested an article. The article you suggested didn't have enough support, nor does anything else being discussed. As a result, an updated FA was created. The fact that you created an FA for the article you suggested before the updated FA was created is irrelevant. The article didn't have support, and as such, should not have had an FA created for it in the first place. Nowhere in the rules does it require someone to support or oppose a given suggestion, not even if someone inappropriately creates a writeup for it. Further, the fact that he reverted to an updated rerun FA indicates de facto opposition to your suggestion, lending even more credibility to going to the old FA. You're the only one here with the "flawed logic". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:58, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
These are the current problems with FAS (besides the obvious lower activity due to TBC having real lives these days):
1) There are too many suggestions on FAS. A majority of these is by one user.
2) Other users cannot suggest alternatives because this one user put forward his own alternatives.
3) I cannot suggest alternatives because all of the suggestions from this one user I either don't support or care for one way or another (ie if the wiki supports a particular suggestion, I wouldn't oppose it).

4) I would love to be more active on FAS, but this one user never gives anyone else a chance and throws a fit when their way isn't followed.
5) Said user tries to sneak in FAs at the extremely last minute or right after the new week starts.
6) Said user tries to frame any attempts to redirect or put up revised past FAs as personal attacks on him.

The bottom line before the extreme measure of banning said user from FAS is suggested, we should whittle down the 40+ items that are suggested on FAS before allowing new suggestions. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:49, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

:Do you ''have'' to talk about me as if I'm not here?! And in reply to your points:
:1) Yes, because we are ''totally'' going to get suggestions from other users with this level of activity.
:2) The way FAS works, you don't have to suggest alternatives except on week-specific discussions. Of course, you could always start a discussion for your suggestion - but is anyone doing that?
:3) Same as 2.
:4) Excuse me? I am very well giving everyone a chance. If anything, ''you're'' not giving ''me'' a chance.
:5) For your information, it used to be common practice to write the FA a day or two before it goes live. Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating, but the point is, it did happen at times in the past.
:6) Well, I do get the feeling that you do it just because you know I don't like it. It's a common feeling.
:And even if I am acting this way about this project, that threat with a ban was uncalled-for. I want those suggestions whittled down, too. And just by the way, there are actually 20+ of them. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 15:05, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer that the page is getting out of control with suggestions no one cares about. I agree that there are more suggestions there by the said user than should be allowed by one user at one time, and I agree that it has to stop. Oh, and RT, he wasn't talking as if you're not here, he was trying to be polite and speak in generalities and focus on how to manage the wiki in the general untenability of the situation, so as not to come off as a direct attack at you sounding like "RickTommy does this and RickTommy does that". It's more than I probably would have done if I had been writing that, and personally, I agree that it's really time for you to give FA a rest. Oh, and reality check, you're NOT giving anyone a chance, you try to dominate the entire process, and insist that it's not fair to you. A bit of helpful advice for life, if everyone but you says you're wrong, you probably are. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:33, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

:Back to this after several months. If an article must have at least three supporters for consensus to feature, let me say this: I can find at least [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks_21-30#HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 30 (Jul 21-27)|one instance]] under the old format when an article got featured despite having only two users supporting it.
:And about the "no putting articles in the queue/creating FAs less than a week before going live" rule: there was no such rule before this year, and none of the users trying to enforce this rule (DeFender, Stux, and Ngamer have so far done so) are sysops.
:Lastly, vague comments such as "I can't quite put my finger on what I think is missing" just make it much harder for an article to be featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:38, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
::There has never been a rule that only sysops may enforce policy, nor that they create policy; rather, it is by consensus. I think there is a '''very clear''' consensus that your constant attempts to make the queue go your way are disruptive; that's why they're being reverted and that's why no one except you has objected to this week rule.
::One of the reasons we left the old format was '''because''' it was so easy to get stuck featuring something without much consensus. I know you far prefer the old format, but you in a minority of ''one'' in that respect, so making comparisons with that format isn't going to convince others. (And I once again remind you that, had '''you''' not started monopolizing the page under the old format, we might never have gotten around to changing to the new format.)
::Lastly, if you get no response to a comment, that in no way gives you an excuse to go and [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AFeatured_Article_Selection&diff=732969&oldid=732967 ram your preferred choice through] a day before it would go live. Particularly since you waited less than a day and half after you left this comment, which is a very short time on a wiki going as slowly as this one.
::This wiki is built on collaboration and accepting wiki conventions, even if we don't agree with them. If you're not willing to do so, that is, if you continue to try to force your preferences through, we can just ban you from adding to the queue at all. So please take this notice that your behaviour must change. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

== Take-a-break.exe ==

I alluded to it in the thread above, but I'd like to formally suggest here that we retire the featured articles, at least for a while. In their place I think we should have a section that links to several toons of the day. The list would be automated. We can work on the exact number and format, but for example how about a big toon, a short, a few Strong Bad Emails, and a couple of miscellaneous toons. This would give people a reason to check the site several times a week, we could all remember how awesome H*R is, and we could stop worrying about choosing articles and having to do write-ups. What say you? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:36, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm all for it. I've felt that it was time to stop FAs for quite some time. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:34, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
::I rather like this idea. I would add that It would be nice to have either a VERY limited manner in which to manually select toons for specific days, such as the weens, or else make the automation robust enough so as to weight certain toons above others at certain times of the year. We could probably use the old FA writeups from toons which have been featured, (updated for modern day if necessary) and then make writeups for the remaining ones, and then we'll never have to worry about getting enough contributors to fill that space with something new each week. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:40, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:::I support It's dot com's idea. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.11|128.103.10.11]] 13:16, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
::::I also support It's dot com's idea. FAS should be given a vacation until TBC are able to resume H*R for a considerable period of time (maybe not full-time anymore like the old days, but I'd be fine with three to six updates a year if possible). — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:18, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, takin' a break ''is'' a good idea. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 16:49, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm inclined to support Dot com's idea. It would be nice to see mockups and specific implementation details. So I'm hoping this note moves the discussion forward toward that goal. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:21, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
::I've decided to get the ball rolling with a [[User:DeFender1031/ToonOfTheDayMain|mock up of the main page]] as it might appear with such a feature. I took the image from the big toon's article, and the descriptions from the tops of the toons' respective articles, which I think makes the most sense. (Originally I'd thought to use FA writeups, but if we're doing several toons like DC suggested, that became too bulky and the simple summaries we already have will suffice.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:27, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
:::That's a good idea, DeFender. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 00:20, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:Featured Article Selection

Heimstern Läufer — Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:05:33 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: /* I don't understand */ reply for RT

==Talk==
To keep the main page cleaner, how do people feel about reserving the majority of the talk section for moving each five week section over here once they've run their course? Does this violate any Wiki standards, or would it keep the main part of this page simpler? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:50, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Maybe we could make an Archive page. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 05:32, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Archives by groups of 5 weeks, perhaps. Don't want the archive to get too lengthy, either. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:38, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::I dunno, I think we could get away with at least 15 or 20 weeks at a time. Nobody really checkes archives all that often anyways. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 12:16, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::Well I'm not really sure of the best way to go about archiving, so whenever we finish up with the first five week block, and move on, feel free to set up some kind of archive system, anyone. (And while you're at it, throw in the discussions at [[HRWiki:Da Basement]] if you want). {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:35, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Milestone emails. ==

This is just a list to keep track on what was featured and what should be.

*1. '''[[some kinda robot]]''' - The first [[Strong Bad Email]]. Start of the [[Tandy]] era
*2. '''[[homsar]]''' - Introduction of [[Homsar]]
*9. '''[[i love you]]''' - Introduction of [[fhqwhgads]]
*11. '''[[i rule]]''' - Introduction of [[Strong Badia]]
*16. '''[[band names]]''' - Introduction of [[Limozeen]] and [[Taranchula]]
*29. [[superhero name]] - Introduction of [[Strong Badman]]
*33. [[gimmicks]] - Explosion of the Tandy
*40. [[vacation]] - End of the Tandy era
*41. [[invisibility]] - Start of the [[Compy 386|Compy]] era
*50. '''[[50 emails]]''' - Email number 50
*53. '''[[comic]]''' - Introduction of [[Teen Girl Squad]]
*57. '''[[japanese cartoon]]''' - Indroduction of [[20X6]]
*58. '''[[dragon]]''' - Introduction of [[Trogdor]]
*80. [[stunt double]] - Introduction of [[Dangeresque]]
*92. [[kind of cool]] - Introduction of [[Senor Cardgage]]
*93. [[army]] - Introduction of [[Cheat Commandos]] and the [[Homestarmy]]
*96. [[lackey]] - Introduction of [[Doreauxgard]]
*97. [[monument]] - Introduction of [[The Thnikkaman]]
*99. '''[[different town]]''' - Collaboration with [[TMBG]]
*100. '''[[flashback]]''' - Email number 100
*117. '''[[montage]]''' - Predicted end of [[The Paper]]
*118. '''[[virus]]''' - End of the Compy era
*119. [[animal]] - Start of the [[Lappy]] era
*125. '''[[rock opera]]''' - A mention of every email until then
*150. '''[[alternate universe]]''' - Email number 150
*159. '''[[retirement]]''' - Return/demise of both the prior computers
*173. [[the paper]] - Retirement of The Paper, and introduction of the [[New Paper]]
*200. '''[[email thunder]]''' - Email number 200
*201. [[hremail3184]] - End of the Lappy era
*203. [[independent]] - Start of the [[Compé]] era
You can add to the list emails you think should be featured as milestones. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:59, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

:I added montage. This may be considered a stretch by some, but I think the chances of us featuring it right around email #172 is a strong likelyhood... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 15:44, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
::I've added army. Seems important to me as the origin of Cheat Commandos, if a bit less so for the introduction of the Homestarmy. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
:::As it turns out, perhaps as much so! Added a few timely additions. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:41, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
::::<s>Updated [[japanese cartoon]].</s>Going senile. Apparently there have been no other nominations from this list fulfilled since then. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:21, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I've corrected my mistaken japanese cartoon coverage. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I added Email Thunder, it is important right? -[[User:Not Dennis|Not Dennis]] 22:34, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Can we remove e-mails from the list? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 05:05, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Why? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:07, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::<s>Because I don't really consider I Rule to be that much of a milestone e-mail, due to its low page hits (it ranks #193 out of 200). And as for Different Town, how is the collabaration with TMBG a milestone? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 08:05, 23 February 2010 (UTC)</s>
::::::::::OK, but clearly someone else thought these were. So please don't remove them. It's not like this list guarantees they'll be featured, anyway; it's just for reference if we're considering featuring an email. So let's just leave them be. 多謝。 {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::Alright, strike all that. My apologies if I was being a bit offensive. :-( [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 09:57, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

==vote==
how do you vote? {{unsigned|Slipknot6477|02:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)}}
:Log in, go to the project page (see the tab above) and add your opinion to the sections. It's less a vote than a discussion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:37, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

== Too early ==

Is it okay for me to leave my idea for the week of October 31, 2007 on this talk page until we reach the proper time to actually vote? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:Can I add my idea to the project page now or should I wait til next week? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::Considering lately we've been having more LATE votes... early is perfect. I'd go for yes. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

==How to do the Lappynapping Saga?==
A question was raised on the project page how to link to something that doesn't have (or even necessarily) need a page— in particular, how to feature the Lappynapping saga. Well, why not create a one off entry? The FA would be a summary of the saga, with links to [[cliffhangers]], [[Lappynapped!]] and [[retirement]]. If [[DNA Evidence (running gag)]] didn't have it's own page, then something similar could be done for that. But, TBC have often mentioned that it's unusual for them to have any continuity or even story arcs, so this would only be used very occasionally. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 05:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
:Here's my question: Is it really a featured article, if it does not have a single mainspace article of which it is a writeup? of course, the idea behind a featured article traditionally has been that we take an article and put a bit of it on the main page, with a link leading to the complete article. Thus, it would be a substantial departure from our practices to make a feature that does not correspond to a specific article.
:We could, of course, consider the possibility of actually having a mainspace article summarizing the entire saga. This would certainly solve the problem of how to feature. We'd have to decide if the idea of a summary article like this is something we like enough to have one. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::Okay... how about we feature [[Lappynapped!]]? It makes the most sense because it's a hidden page, so may not be commonly known. Moreover, it can't stand on it's own, so the write up would have to refer to [[cliffhangers]] and [[retirement]] in order to adequately to explain. It would be a de facto summary of the saga, while answering your concern about featuring a single article. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:02, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:::That's... That's a really great idea. I am impressed by your planning ability. And your remembering this conversation! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Dailies - consensus? ==

We need consensus on when is too often for dailies - evidence [[HRWiki:Featured_Article Selection#HRWiki:Featured_article for 2008, week 22 (May 26-Jun 1)|here]]. How can we determine how often they are appropriate? I'd suggest no more than once every two months, i.e. 6 or less times annually.

Also, how do we determine the worthiness of dailies? Do we throw in crappy articles? Clearly not. Do we throw in short articles? That's be difficult to do well. Do we throw in our best pieces of work? Perhaps not, if they deserve a mention as a weekly, but perhaps so, as what else can be a daily? I think dalies are a great way to break things up and feature a lot at a time, a theme if you will.

That said, another thought: should we tell in the FA writeup this is a daily week, so look each day for a new FA? I think so, otherwise, it's a waste and we might as not even do it.

All thoughts welcome. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:16, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Personally, I think dailies should be done as infrequently as possibly; probably no more than twice a year. Dailies work best when they are thematically related, but honestly, how many groups of seven items of middle importance are there left? The Tandy 400 emails or food related dailies have already been done. As you note, either the remaining articles are either don't warrant featuring on the front page in the first place ''or'' are too important to left be left to a daily, and should be up for an entire week. This would be true most of the landmark emails from the Compy 386 era forward, imho, for example. I think it's something we have perhaps already exhausted the plausible supply of, and any future instances should be done rarely. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::If that becomes consensus, I propose couching language on the main page to reflect that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:59, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Two to three times a year if we think of something what I've always planned on, assuming, that is, that we think of that many sevens, which we may not. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Other Possible Articles ==

A thought occurred to me that I thought would be a good discussion on the talk page: Are we limited to only the main namespace? I'm not suggesting we feature users or anything, but I have occasionally given thought to featuring [[HRWiki:A History]] someday (maybe if we can find what week the wiki was created on, and do an anniversary special). Naturally, we should stick to main namespace articles, but I don't think it would hurt to do our own history once. After all, we're also an important part of the H*R universe, and the Chaps rely on us all the time. Other people's thoughts? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

== Holiday articles ==
When Halloween times roll around, can I be the first to suggest the ideas for those two weeks (that's when we usually do them)? And since we've done [[Summer Short Shorts]] at one time, can we do [[Decemberween Short Shorts]] when it's time for that? [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 19:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:I don't think we really take reservations for first suggestion. From my perspective, I think it might be polite to only make Halloween suggestion and let someone else have a chance to make a suggestion for the other week. A thought. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:15, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::Like you [[HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection#HRWiki:Featured_article_for_2008.2C_week_28_.28Jul_7-13.29|mentioned]] in your own post, let's slow down a bit. There's no need to go so far ahead or make reservations, when the time comes around we'll decide what's best. Who knows, maybe TBC might make a new SBemail or Short that would be more appropriate for the occasion. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:30, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, I know. Except I can't stop thinking about those ideas ahead of time. I had to explain myself somewhere. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 19:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
:::In 2010, for the week that April 30th is in, can I have dibs on picking the article of the week for that week? April 30th is my birthday and 2010 is my golden year. That'd be great, thanks. Okay, I'll go read [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Sarcasm is really helpful|this article]] now. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Oh, boy. ''That's'' a good article {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 02:08, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

==tis true?==

I think the next should be [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]].

{{User:Ninja pom pom/sig}} 21:36, 10 December 2008

Yes! I agree.
--[[User:Marzie500|Marzie500]] 22:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

== Future Writeup ==

Just so everyone's aware of its existance, I [[User:DorianGray/Featured Article: Gavin|took the liberty of doing a writeup]] for [[Gavin]], an article not yet selected, but one I would like to see one day. I've never gotten to suggest an article, but if you guys ever get stuck for time or something, here's one that's already mostly complete. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==Week 16, 2009?==
How come nothing for Week 16 has been put up yet? The article has been written and ready to go. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 06:24, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

==Where is everybody?==
Am I the only one who puts up anything here on the Featured Articles section anymore? [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 15:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

== Where do these summaries go, anyhow? ==

These main page feature articles often summarise the content they feature nicelessly, yet they don't appear in the body of the article. Maybe keep 'em around as a review or summmary of the article?
:[[HRWiki:Featured articles|We do keep them around]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:30, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== Queue ==

What if we had a queue for upcoming featured articles, so that a good article doesn't have to keep being nominated each week until it finds a home. I envision a list that is always about 10 to 20 entries long. Anyone can add something to the bottom of the list (but they should refrain if doing so if it means letting the list get too long). Things can be moved up or down, or even removed entirely, by consensus. A really great article can get moved to the head of the list, or one that's not quite ready could get pushed back a couple of weeks. I'm not sure how all the details would work. I also know that some of our featured articles are time-sensitive, so my suggestion here would need to incorporate them separately somehow. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:47, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

:I think this idea could make FAS a lot smoother. I'm not really sure how it would ''work'', but I was playing with how it might ''look''. Here is one thing I imagined: [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=653343 1]. The markup for that may look kind of hairy, but with some convenient row templates, it could be made very simple to edit. I was going for something that would let people at a glance see what (if anything) had been agreed on for the next month or so, and then a list of a further 10 or so articles that were generally agreed FA-worthy but hadn't been scheduled yet. And a prominent place to mark weeks that had a special timely consideration. I imagined that the list could go at the top of the page, and detailed discussion for reaching consensus would be below it.
:Another idea I was toying with, was to have some "tags" to stick in the list that classified the article. See [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=653344 2]. I abused the <nowiki>{{u}}</nowiki> template just as an example, but those aren't really the right kind of icons. What I had in mind would be a different set of icons representing the "type" of article being featured. Like "character", "toon", "tgs", "ccdos", and so on. I'd guess any article could have more than one of these tags. The only real reason would be to visually see what sort of things were planned to be featured in relation to when similar things are. It's sort of superfluous and maybe just mucks up the list... I'm not sure I really like the tags idea after all. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 14:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

== RE: HRWiki:Featured article for 2009, week 53 (Dec 28-Jan 3) ==

Are we absolutely sure we should show the date like that? We've never had a "week 53" situation before (I suspect that this situation will cause date problems). [[User:Jc iindyysgvxc|Jc iindyysgvxc]] 11:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
:Week 53 is based upon the [[Wikipedia:ISO_week_date|ISO week date]], which MediaWiki uses to keep track of weeks. A "week 53" is not common— it happens 71 times every 400 years— but this year just happens to be one of those years. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 16:25, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

== Possibly Weak Propositions ==

Instead of writing them on the project page, I think that less prominent articles should be suggested here, so as to free up space in the main section.
I'll start. Is [[Strong Mad and Coach Z's Relationship]] worthy of being featured (ever)? --[[User:HRWiki Greg|FIFTH GREG! HRWiki Greg]] 02:38, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
:At present, the opening of the article is not nearly long enough. In terms of prominence, I've got nothing against featuring obscure stuff if it's properly fit to feature; indeed I rather like putting unusual stuff on the Main Page. So basically, if you want it featured, it could theoretically be done, but you'll need to expand the intro about tenfold. Currently, that's a dealbreaker. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:36, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
::I've extended the intro; Is it long enough now? --[[User:HRWiki Greg|FIFTH GREG! HRWiki Greg]] 06:49, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

== Potential revamp ==

Surgeon General's Warning: the following post contains large quantities of words, and may be hazardous to your health.

The discussion here has tended to go a bit off-track... with the way featured articles are chosen now, pages that would have consensus to be featured often never are, because someone comes in once the discussion's gotten going with a different suggestion, and the discussion switches tracks. Also, it's too easy for a vocal minority or even a single person to (even in good faith) completely overrun the suggestions, and drown out other contributors' voices... just by making a suggestion every week.

The major problem, I think, is that the discussions are grouped by the week... but most of the time, the week isn't important. If we had featured [[SBLOUNSKCHED! Bar]] next week instead of this week, it wouldn't really have mattered. And if there was something that was popular, and it gets one-upped by something that's even more popular, that first thing should still be considered a promising candidate for the next week... rather than having to be re-suggested from scratch many weeks later.

So, I propose: ditch the weekly sections, and replace them with one section per page that's up for discussion. Instead of a section for this week and a section for next week, and so on, have a section for [[SBLOUNSKCHED! Bar]], and a section for [[The Virus]], and a section for [[Gavin]], and so on.

New suggestions can be added by anyone to the list... this should help stem the ability for people to flood the conversation, since there doesn't need to be exactly one new suggestion per week... both removing the urge to post a suggestion every single week (since there's no empty section that "needs" to be filled) and also allowing more than one suggestion to be made in a single week (so just because you've made a suggestion doesn't mean I can't make one too). This will probably lead to a large influx of suggestions at first, but I think it'll be self-limiting, as people will add fewer sections when there's a lot of them there already. Then, when there's consensus to feature an article, it can be moved to a "queue" list at the top of the page (which would just be a list of links, say to both the page in question and the section where it was discussed, and also the main page template for that week - being the week following whatever is above it in the queue). Perhaps also a note added to the top of the section, saying it's been added to the queue, so people know they don't need to keep discussing it. Then, each week, the entry at the top of the queue will go live, automatically like it does now, and it can be removed from the list. Regularly (shouldn't have to be too often), the sections for all the pages that ended up being featured, all the sections that have consensus to not feature, and all the sections that ground to a halt with no consensus and haven't been updated in a sufficiently long time, would be archived, like they are now.

The idea being that a good suggestion won't distract from another also-good suggestion... and once a good page has been suggested and agreed upon by consensus, it will in due time be featured as it floats to the top of the list. Meanwhile, pages that could be good but need work can keep their section, and have the usual discussions in there about what needs to be changed to make it featureable (with discussions about specific changes going on the article's talk page, of course). Then, when it's dragged up to scratch, it can be added to the queue just like any other page. This will help drive eyes to pages that are OK but not great, and make them better (improving the KB in the process).

Some notes for special cases:
* Weeks where we feature 7 small articles on a daily basis, rather than one for the whole week (or even that time we featured 14 articles over a fortnight), can still be done - just create one section to discuss the whole block, and if it's agreed on, add it to the queue as a whole block. This should flow through the same as any other suggestion.
* On the occasion we do want to feature something on a specific week (like Halloween-themed articles around that time of year) then the queue can be tinkered with... if there's consensus in the discussion, the page can be inserted on the appropriate week, rather than just added to the end of the list.
* The process only covers the normal cases, but it should be made clear there'd be room for exceptions... so while the process would be followed 95% of the time, if anything exciting happened, TBC made some announcement and we wanted to feature an article in response to that, then we could certainly do it. No-one would be indef-blocked for suggesting queue-jumping, in exceptional circumstances.

So anyway, that's my proposal. Thoughts? Suggestions? Changes? This is only a first draft of the idea, feel free to point out any pitfalls or suggest improvements. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:56, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:Seems not unreasonable. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.208|132.183.140.208]] 18:01, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
::I agree with this idea. So much, in fact, that I had the same idea [[#Queue|a year ago]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:I basically agree with this proposal. A potential hazard to consider: Without specified dates, anyone is effectively free to make however many suggestions they want, which could quickly make the page unwieldy. If we added a limit to how many discussions can be on the page at once, we have the same problem again: People try to rush to be the first to add a new suggestion once one is removed. One possible solution should this problem materialize would be a per-user limit on suggestions (even if no limit is adopted, I would suggest that under normal situations, users limit themselves to a reasonable number of suggestions on the page at once, perhaps only two or so). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:23, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
::I think the idea is shot-worthy. Let's try it out and work out any kinks as we get along. Heimstern: How about before going "live", we can try it out for 3-4 weeks to get the queue filled up. If after that time the page is too unwieldy, we'll put one of the restrictions you suggested. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 19:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

:::I disagree with this idea, for three reasons:

:::#We've done it this way for over five years.
:::#Everything will have to be archived differently.
:::#The Wiki is not as popular as it used to be (we should not have a big change to something in a time of inactivity like this).

:::{{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Those reasons are entirely unconvincing.
::::#So? That kind of reasoning would mean we can never improve anything we've been doing for a long time.
::::#Minor detail. Not going to be a problem to work that out.
::::#While we may be fairly inactive concerning new content, FAs are chugging along just like normal. There's no reason not to do it now (indeed, a time of inactivity is a good time, since we're not spending our time elsewhere).
::::{{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:41, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::So I made a proof-of-concept of what the page might look like if we were to make the change today, in [{{FULLURL:HRWiki:Sandbox|oldid=704180}} the sandbox] ([{{FULLURL:HRWiki:Sandbox|diff=704180&oldid=704169}} diff]) – note that I tried to keep all the conversations together, and not delete anything, so that's not exactly how it would look after being in operation for a while... in particular, I've left in things where many suggestions are all made at once (which wouldn't be the focus after the revamp – rather than looking around for a good article to use in a given week, we'd be focusing more on the articles individually), or where references are made to "this week" (eg "I prefer this suggestion for this week over this other suggestion" which obviously wouldn't come up any more, as the articles aren't directly competing with one another). I also had to split up a couple of comments over two sections, but I think it still worked.
:::::In other news, replying to RickTommy:
:::::# If one way was just as good as the other, then tradition would matter... but when one way is better than the other, then it's worth doing it that way even if it goes against tradition. Tradition is an argument against pointless changes, but it can't be an argument against real improvements.
:::::# I don't see archiving changing that much. The queue itself doesn't need to be archived at all, since there's no information on it that isn't already on [[HRW:FA]]... and the discussions can be archived in the usual way, just move them to an archive page once there's a lot of dead discussions... same as [[Talk:Main Page]] and many other discussion pages.
:::::# As Heimi said, a lull is the best time to switch over, as it will cause less disruption while people are settling in to the new setup... people have a chance to focus mostly on this and getting it to work, rather than also working on other things at the same time.
:::::{{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:13, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've also thrown together [{{FULLURL:HRWiki:Sandbox|oldid=704185}} another example] for what it would look like with a longer queue... the format isn't fixed (neither is anything else, at this point) and could certainly be simplified with a couple of templates. For the purposes of filling out the queue for the example, I closed a whole bunch of the discussions that we wouldn't usually... that just had one or two people saying anything, and that was recently... that is just so that you can see what it would look like with more things in the queue, not saying we would close discussions that flippantly for real. Exactly how much discussion we'd need before closing a discussion is probably something we'll figure out over time, from experience... it will probably vary, based on how much of a backlog we have in the queue... if it's starting to dry up, we'll probably start closing things quicker to make sure we have some buffer in there. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:53, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't want to let the discussion on this die like it did last time this was brought up... does anyone else have any comments or suggestions? I'd like to hear from some of the other FAS regulars, even if only a "I do/don't like it" (though preferably more, of course). The other question that needs to be answered is how we switch over... I see a couple of options:
# We could switch over entirely one day (probably a Monday, just after the FA goes live), just replace all the discussion section with new ones grouped by toon... like I did in the proof-of-concept in the sandbox I linked before. This will let us switch to the new version more quickly, but we'll only have a week to start filling in the queue before the next FA needs to be ready.
# We could keep the discussions in their current form for the ones we already have, but put any ''new'' suggestions into the new format. So, in 10 weeks time, we'll have gone through the existing discussions and start pulling things off the queue. Means we don't have to do much to switch over, just add the new sections, but it'd mean a long time before the queue actually starts getting used.
# We could take a mix of both options - keep a handful (say, 3 or 4) weeks worth of the discussions in their current format, and convert all the later ones into the new format. So we still have a few weeks to start building up the queue, but we can still dive into the new system straight away rather than waiting for a long time for the current discussions to fall off the page.
I think option 3 is the best. Week 23 is currently live, and 24 will go up soon... we can keep, say, 25 through 27 up, and convert 28 onwards to the new format... and the first page to go onto the queue would go live on 12 July for Week 28 (a month from today). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:12, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
:I, for one, really like the idea and like {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=704180 Phlip's}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=704185 mockups}}. I may have a slightly altered mockup in mind but I'm not sure if I'll get a chance to present it. Besides these mockup look workable enough. As for the transition method I prefer #3: stick to the current method for the next week or two while the rest of the discussions are transformed into the new method. I look forward to seeing the implementation! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:41, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::Tryin' to keep the conversation alive again... I'll take the silence from the other FAS regulars that they have no complaints... if there's no new suggestions in, say, a week, then I think this can be pushed out. At that time, Week 26 will be about to happen... and we can keep, say, 27-29 in the current format, and 30-32 can be changed into the new format. The discussion for week 30 (which will become a discussion for [[Everybody to the Limit]]) can be closed straight away, so the queue can be created with 1 item in it already. That's my current plan, at least, unless someone comes up with a better one. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:56, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm not a FAS regular, but I had nothing to add, but kind words of encouragement. I think your idea is great :). {{User:Elcool/sig}} 06:08, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
::::It occurred to me, do all the regulars know about this discussion? It's not like you'd need this page group on your watchlist to keep up with the article selection. Should we put a notice somewhere on the project page? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm a little late to the discussion, but I think this is a great idea. {{User:Power Pie/sig}}
:Another reason I think it's a bad idea: more often than not, there's a particular week of a year that I want a particular article featured. Now how am I supposed to say "I want article X featured on week Y"? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:04, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
::By saying "I think article X should be featured on week Y". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:12, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay, I have a better idea: how about using both formats? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 09:38, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::::What would be improved by doing that? It would merely mean twice the work, for little (if any) benefit. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:52, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Now that this has been in full swing for a while, there's two thingss i'm a tad confused about. First off, when a consensus is no, (as is the case of [[HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection#Strong_Bad_Sings|Strong Bad Sings]]) can sections be removed? And also, there is as of now 19 suggestions on the page. did the 10 week limit get removed, or were people just excited about the change that they just began to suggest a lot more things? {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 01:12, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

== Revamp'd format suggestion ==

Okay guys, so i have a suggestion for enhancing the new format: Given the less-than-linear format of the new FA system, and that a few of the FA articles have been written for potentially future FAs, why not utilize the HRW namespace to keep drafts of these ready for use when the FA comes? So, for [[Gavin]] (for example) we'd have <code><nowiki>[[HRWiki:FA for Gavin]]</nowiki></code> or something like that. We could then automatically link to those from the queue and/or discussion. We could even ask that those who make suggestions can help write them as they make the suggestion. Once the articles make the queue, it's just a simple matter of moving or redirecting the page. What do you guys think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:34, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:I think it would be <code><nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured Article for Gavin]]</nowiki></code>, but instead of that, how about <code><nowiki>[[Featured:Gavin]]</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>[[Featured Article:Gavin]]</nowiki></code>? It would also change to, say, [[Featured [Article]:2010, week 32]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::I like the idea. A <code><nowiki>[[Featured:]]</nowiki></code> would be nice and it would make managing, finding and listing FAs much easier. In addition to that it looks like we may need an intermediate process where we can debate and choose (perhaps vote on, even) which articles will be added to the queue. Such a system shouldn't be too complex, but that coupled with the per-artcile FA writeups (and asking that suggestions also include writeups) would make short- and long-term FA planning and maintenance easier and less of a last-minute thing. Opinions? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:52, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I really think it should be something as simple as having trusted users decide which articles have consensus and add those to the queue. If necessary, this action could be restricted to only sysops to be sure only trusted users make the decisions, though I'd rather we allowed non-sysops capable of determining consensus to participate, too. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:34, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Good idea. Pretty much every article featured since the introduction of the new format has not had consensus; I feel that this has been a conflict of interest. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:28, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

== My two cents ==

After about two months on the new format, I think I have a few things to suggest. I know I'm not a regular on this page, but I've been observing, and I think there are some issues that need addressing. Firstly, the new format all but eliminates the need for a [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations|nominations page]], since that was mostly used to give ideas for weeks when no article was already suggested. Since the current selection process is essentially nominating articles, the nominations page can probably go. Also, it seems to me that the current attitude towards this page is less about choosing articles that represent the community's work and more about choosing articles that cover topics important in the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. I don't think this attitude is the proper way to think about which articles deserve to be featured. If the community wrote an [[Polymascotfoamalate|awesome article about something that is only a minor part of the universe]], I'd say it is more worthy of a feature than [[The Reddest Radish|a classic 'toon with less than twenty fun facts]]. Finally, I think many users are taking too much of an egotistical approach to this page. I think this page needs to be less about being the one to suggest articles that get featured, and more about establishing group consensus on which articles in our wiki deserve the title. If we all limited ourselves to one or two suggestions per month, and concentrated more on discussing already suggested articles, we would establish much better consensus much faster and with less clutter. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 19:27, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
:I think the nominations page has been obsolete for years, not just since the format changed here. I'm all for featuring awesome articles ([[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]] comes to mind as one that went from nothing to awesome very quickly was featured because of this), but I also don't have a problem with featuring a topic simply because it's important in the universe (assuming at least minimum standards for the article); after all, concerning an article, in our featured template we say that we "might just think it's cool". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:41, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
::dc - if the nominations page is so obsolete, was [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AFeatured_Article_Selection&diff=707763&oldid=707761 this] [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AFeatured_Article_Selection&diff=707765&oldid=707764 edit] incorrect? Do you know if [[Answering Machine]] has been featured/if it is easy to look up if you don't know (which i'm not assuming you know)? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:38, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:::The nominations page isn't obsolete in the sense that it [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Nominations&action=history isn't updated]. However, the foolproof way of determining if an article has been featured ''should'' be to check the top of the talk page. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:41, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, i knew that. i just wasn't thinking. I also wasn't thinking about that when i linked the articles. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:44, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Another thing I'm noticing: There doesn't seem to be a policy or guideline in place for when to ''remove'' a nomination. There are several on the page currently that haven't been commented on in months where the consensus seems to be to reject the article, but they're still on the page. Do they need to be archived in some way? Should they be removed, or should they be left open for when the article improves in quality? Should we assume that that might happen? I think that, if we decide they should be archived, we just move them to the article's talk page. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:35, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
:Are the discussions for articles that did get featured archived somewhere? If so, the rejected discussions could be stored in the same place. --[[Special:Contributions/93.207.89.147|93.207.89.147]] 09:02, 12 October 2010 (UTC) (That Anonny Guy)

== Protection ==

No one seems to do the protection stuff anymore; should those be removed from the checklist? [[Special:Contributions/119.252.166.26|119.252.166.26]] 05:38, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
:And even if they shouldn't, should we at least reword them for users who aren't sysops? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:05, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Change of pace ==

OK, FAS is totally neglected these days. I'm as guilty as the next person, but then, we are all volunteers. In this new world of very few site updates and a corresponding lack of user interest, I think FAS as we know it is no longer tenable. So, I suggest a revamp of some sort. The possibilities I see are:
#Scrap it completely. With the lack of interest, this really may be the best option, though we'd need to redesign the main page for this to work.
#Move over to monthly FAs instead of weekly. The main concern I have about this is that I'm not sure our drive to maintain FAS is even up to monthly FAs anymore.
#Instead of choosing new FAs, just repeat older ones. This could be combined with the above suggestion, and does reduce our workload a bit, though we'd still have to get enough drive to maintain it.

Please note that, regardless of what happens, I do not anticipate being heavily involved in maintaining our featured article process as I have been in the past. I've gotten tired of the job and the rubbish that comes with it, and real life is busier than it used to be.

So, let's talk about what should be done here. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
:I think rerunning old articles would be preferable to scrapping it or moving to a monthly schedule. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
::How 'bout a hybrid? New articles every first week of the month, reruns the other three. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:13, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

:::I suspect that this has to do with the change of format. The old format had more of a deadline for when the FA summaries should be created, so maybe if we changed back?
:::Heimstern: In response to the idea of a main page redesign, it would look something like this: [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&curid=49237&diff=718049&oldid=718046&rcid=679408]
:::Martyo: It would work better the other way 'round.
:::{{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Ha! We knew ''you'd'' say that. No, there's nothing wrong with the new format. We'd have this same problem under the old format, because the problem has to do with diminished interest. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

== Rule suggestion ==
I have noticed that many of the recent Featured Articles have been decided based on solely one or two people approving the article. I understand that we're in a bit of a crunch time right now in terms of the popularity of this page as well as the whole wiki, but I have a new rule suggestion: in order for a new article to be featured, at least two or three people, depending on the amount of input, must approve the article. Thoughts? [[User:Doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 00:11, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
:That'd be making a rule we can't fulfill, because very few people are actually participating in FAS. Adding a rule isn't going to drum up interest in this page. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:00, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
::I completely understand. Thanks for the input anyway. [[User:Doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 22:00, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

== Redirects ==

I've always hated the redirected FAs, but this week in particular has brought this issue into sharp focus: What if the FA being redirected to happens to contain outdated info (like this one does) or is a daily one instead of a weekly one? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:38, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
:This is a wiki, is it not? The old featured article is not protected, is it? If it contains outdated information, ''then fix it''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:31, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
::So the issue is not archived, but protected? b/c i had a similar question [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:Featured_articles&diff=prev&oldid=716922 here] that went unanswered, and i have since forgotten what i was going to do with the answer. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 04:20, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
:::The old featured writeups are not protected. If you find an outright error, I don't see why it can't be fixed. As for this week's article, where it was correct back when it was originally featured but now is outdated, there's nothing stopping us from copying the old data onto a new page and then updating it. In fact, [[HRWiki:Featured article for 2011, week 45|I've now done that]]. Someone, please, feel free to make it current. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

== Sbemail write-ups ==

I have drafted write-ups for many Strong Bad Emails that have not yet been featured ([[User:RickTommy/Sbemailwriteups]]). But I'm very sure most of them need to be reviewed. Could someone please review them? Note that I have also made that page open to public editing, so as well as editing the write-ups I've already written, you can add your own write-ups if you want. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:40, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

== I don't understand ==

Seriously, why is everyone letting FAS die? I'm trying to ''save'' FAS here.

*Some of my write-ups get reverted due to lack of consensus. Because of the lack of users who participate in FAS these days, I don't think consensus is that important.
*What is with the redirected FAs, anyway? I ''really - do - not - understand'' why we have redirected FAs instead of just thinking of whichever article currently on FAS should be featured.
*We have not done a daily for over one-and-a-half years, and now we only have next week to do one before the end of the year. I ''really'' do not want this daily to be pushed to next year.
*I already have written several write-ups [[User:RickTommy/Sbemailwriteups|here]]; why not just pick one from that list?

Sorry for ranting, but I am really, really confused as to why everyone is letting FAS die instead of helping me revive it. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:26, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
:#Having a brand-new FA every week is not as important as having the community agree that an article is '''worthy''' of being featured. As such, '''consensus is more important than ever'''.
:#The redirected FAs are because those are articles that '''already got consensus''' of being worthy. It's like a tv show, they don't necessarily have a new episode every week, and during the off weeks, the stations fill that gap with reruns. They don't try to churn out mediocre, substandard episodes at the last minute. Also, in this situation, the majority of people who view the rerun never saw the original time it was featured (you yourself certainly weren't around then) and there's no chronology to the series, so it doesn't matter what FA you see in what order.
:#Once again, there's no requirement to do an annual set of dailies. If there is a good daily idea that receives '''consensus''', we'll do it, but the concept of dailies is actually much rarer than it is common. There's no reason to try to force through a set of dailies before the end of the year.
:#It's a nice Idea, but I'm not sure all those emails are worth featuring.
:no one's "letting FA die". There's still an FA every week, and the weeks we've gained enough interest in featuring a new article, we do. Having a lone user make unilateral decisions about a project without the support of the rest of the community is far more damaging to a project than lack of development in a certain area. I hope that helps. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:24, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it's time to give FAs a rest for a while. We could use the space for something new or we could have the system load a random featured article from the archives. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:14, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I'm going to second It's dot com. With no new input from people on FAS, no new content from TBC, and declining interest in H*R due to lack of new content from TBC, it's time for FAS to be let go for now. The question is do we want classic FAs on the main page or for the entire FA space to be archived in favor of putting the extra space on the main page to some other use (like HR Wiki news that could cover wiki and forum related news and announcements)? — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 19:14, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
::::I feel I should add, three sections up, it was suggested that the very rule you're using against me be implemented, but it was stated that it can't be fulfilled because of the lack of users participating in FAS. So what do you have to say about that? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:14, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
::::Also agree with putting FA to rest, possibly forever since TBC don't seem interested in coming back to making regular Homestar updates anytime soon. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:59, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

It appears that this has been brought up again. Once again, what's the point in waiting for consensus when it's clear as day that we're not going to get any? If this is going to continue, then yeah, I think we should kill off FAS as well. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:01, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:The fact that there is significantly diminished interest in FAs does not diminish nor does it eliminate the need to establish consensus when deciding what articles to feature. Whilst there may be only a handful of people involved in the FA process, that serves as no reason to ignore and negate their feedback in order to serve the interests of an individual. If the net effect of our actions is that no action is taken, so be it: disinterest in the process does not eliminate the need for the process. There are reasons why it is there in the first place. If the process leads us to eliminating FAs then so bet it: that is the decision; but that is a different matter that warrants a separate discussion (to which I must comment: replace it with what? I personally I'm inclined to automatic redirects to the past). That said, consensus must still be observed. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:23, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
::Well, I'll say this again: three sections up, it was suggested that this very rule be implemented, but Heimstern said that it couldn't be fulfilled because of the lack of interest in this project. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:40, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:::Let me see if I can clarify the issue for you. The rule three sections up that was suggested required 2-3 users to support an article before it could be featured. While ideal, this suggestion is impractical because very few people participate in FA selection these days, thus making the rule unenforceable. What happened this week was that '''''you''''' pushed for an FA whose discussion included a suggestion for a different article. What i mean by this is that the discussion had established two different opinions and so no clear consensus was established. We have featured articles with less discussion in the past, but when it is clear that there is no consensus then it should be no reason to proceed unilaterally. (We're pretty much in maintenance mode for lack of a better term, and as I've mentioned before, the future of FA is an entirely different discussion altogether.) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:11, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
::::Stux - the [[20X6 vs. 1936|different article]] you mentioned in the discussion for this week ended up being used as the featured article last week (which was partly my doing). That said, I wasn't aware that Wormdingler had been nominated when RickTommy created the FA page. Somehow, i do remember the other article suggested against it and RickTommy asking why. (maybe i didn't pay attention to the one-word post?) Anyway, i was surprised to see Wormdingler's FA page for that reason. and when I looked it up on the FAS page, it wasn't blatant that it had been suggested, and it definitely didn't have consensus. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:39, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::This is exactly what I mean by "letting FAS die". I am sick of the redirects! I am ''sick'' of them! Are there any articles here, at the moment, that have what you define as consensus? [[Special:Contributions/58.167.46.232|58.167.46.232]] 20:48, 15 January 2012 (UTC) ([[User:RickTommy]])
::::::RickTommy - What I don't understand is why you're sick of redirects. Perhaps you'd like to explain that a bit more? Because just saying that you are doesn't get us very far. Since it's proving harder to establish consensus right now, it is not currently important that we have a brand new featured article every week. There is nothing wrong with reusing an article that was featured in the younger days of the wiki. In fact, I think it's wise to do so, since as it was stated before, they have gained consensus, and nothing has changed to make them any less featurable now. I agree with DF about the tv show analogy ''and'' with his reminder that you weren't here when they were originally featured. Do you spend your time doing an in-depth study of all the write-ups for all the articles that have been featured already? If not, then I don't understand your problem re-featuring an article that has an established consensus (unless you can give a different very good reason when you explain why you're so sick of the redirects). In fact, one idea i suggested once as a compromise for the downtime was to start hanging on to which article we feature for more than a week at a time rather than redirecting to a past FA. What do you think of that idea? b/c we're running out of usable articles much faster than I had anticipated when i made that suggestion {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 22:06, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::::WARNING: This post is long.
:::::::Well, I'm sick of redirects for several reasons. One, as stated above, some of the old FA summaries contain outdated info. Two, many of the old FA summaries are short by the standards of more recent FA summaries. And three, I just find them ridiculous. As for your compromise, Knights, I'm not so sure, but I have suggested a similar idea:
::::::<blockquote>once all the important articles are done, change to daily articles, and do every article except the ones that definitely cannot be featured (such as disambiguations and censored articles), then we do re-runs or just tie a big bow on the project altogether.</blockquote>
:::::::As for consensus: This is turning out to be the opposite of how I felt in 2010, when an article got featured when I felt it didn't deserve the honour, and I was screaming that it didn't have consensus. In case you don't remember what I'm talking about, here's the thread about the issue: [[User talk:RickTommy/Archive#FAS again]]. And now the opposite is true: I feel that consensus has a lower definiton due to how many participate in FAS these days, and yet everyone else still thinks we should go by the older definition of consensus. Why would I even ''want'' to suggest that rule three sections up? I never said I was in favour of it; I said that it was suggested and that it cannot be enforced. And yet it ''is'' being enforced.
:::::::On the subject of the daily, it has been a looooong time since the last one, and I seriously think it should be done soon - after all, like I said, we should switch to dailies once all the important articles are done. I would also like to point out that the last daily was when we still had the old format; we have not done a single one under the new format.
:::::::On the subject of the format: I still think it was a bad idea to change the format during the hiatus. (Speaking of the hiatus, how do you even ''pronounce'' that word?) Though I dislike the new format either way, it wouldn't have bothered me so much if it was changed during a time when H*R was still active. Plus, we always seemed to have consensus under the old format.
:::::::By the way, there are two comments in FAS archives that still piss me off; in case you're wondering what they are, I link to them in the "Things that annoy me" section on my userpage. "Good. Also, I beat RickTommy." I was ''not'' "beaten"; I did not post for that week because I was told not to. "Oh and also, RickTommy, stop with all the suggestions please." Not only did it not belong on the page, but it's humiliating to have my intelligence insulted by this ''kid''. Those two comments may be archived, but can they please be removed or reworded?
:::::::As for the list of milestone emails at the top of the page: what actually constitutes a milestone email? Do we list emails that are the first appearance of an important part of the H*R universe, as well as the big ones (50, 100, 125, 150, and 200), or do we list each one that has so much as the first time Strong Bad swings his arm down? Because by that logic, every single Sbemail belongs on the list. (Now, [[i rule]] may have been the first appearance of Strong Badia, but it's not really that notable for that reason. I personally think it was a coincidence that it was the first appearance of SBadia; on the contrary, it's obvious that Homsar, 20X6, Trogdor etc. were intended to appear for the first time in their respective emails.)
:::::::As for Ngamer01's suggestion, what sort of wiki/forum-related news and announcements, exactly?
:::::::Now that was a lot to share with you guys. I hope you all understand my frustration. Good night. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:48, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
::::::::One, if the old summaries contain outdated info, then copy the content and fix them, instead of just redirecting. Two, I don't see the claim about length to be true, or even a problem. Three, "they're ridiculous because they're ridiculous" is a tautology and not very helpful to making a case, so I'm going to simply ignore this one.
::::::::Featuring every article on the site is not only a bad idea, it's a TERRIBLE idea. Even if they are done as dailies. And why, in your estimation, does doing reruns after featuring everything indiscriminately make the reruns more acceptable?
::::::::As for that "article that didn't deserve the honor", you've been told many times that simply saying "i think X" or "I don't think Y" without giving a reason does nothing toward building consensus, and thus gets largely ignored when closing discussions. (Your "I find them ridiculous" tautology is in the same vein, and is being similarly ignored.) "Consensus" never had a "higher" or "lower" or "older" or "newer" definition. There is only one [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/consensus definition of consensus] and that is "Majority of opinion; general agreement or concord; harmony." In the context of this wiki, that means "the general opinion is vastly toward one direction and all outstanding objections have been logically overruled". Note again that an "outstanding objection" is not "i don't think so" but "i don't think so because well-thought-out and logical argument". You can't logically overrule an opinion that doesn't give a reason.
::::::::Once again, '''there is no reason to try to force through a daily if there aren't any worth featuring'''. I know dailies are fun. I myself had a blast [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2010 Weeks 11-20#HRWiki:Featured article for 2010, week 18 (May 3-9)|working on the two-week Dangeresque character daily back in 2010]], but there's no NECESSITY for them, and unless a good set is suggested, it's not going to happen. And no, we're not going to feature every article as dailies "just 'cause".
::::::::The switch being a bad idea is your opinion, and was overruled by... duh duh daaaaaaaah! '''consensus'''. That's right, that word you hate so much, but that is the backbone of every community-driven project in the world rears its magnificent head again. And in fact, making a major systems change is a BETTER idea when business is slow, because it causes less confusion in the switchover. You're the only one who seems confused by it. And I think the lack of consensus on FA doesn't come from the new system as much as it does the continuing decline of interest in the site, the wiki, and FA's specifically. Is it sad? yes. Is there anything we can do about it? Not without featuring a bunch of pointless articles just because we have nothing better to feature, which in my opinion (and probably the opinion of everyone else but you), is more hurtful than helpful. The old FAs were and are worth featuring. What you propose is not.
::::::::About those comments, they are part of the discussion because it shows how other wiki users reacted to YOUR behavior, which, as you were told, was unacceptable. It's not the policy of the wiki to change other people's talk posts for anything except blatant personal attacks (which these aren't, they're just valid responses to things you said and did), use of expletives, or vandalism. To be quite candid, much of the decision to switch the format was a result of the same kind of behavior that led to those comments.
::::::::Ask about milestone emails in a separate thread please (perhaps [[#Milestone emails.|the thread itself]]?) and don't sneak it in in the middle of something totally different... you do this a lot. Talk about something totally unrelated to the talk page/thread you're in and then expect a response, and it's difficult for people to notice or care when it's not in a relevant place.
::::::::I agree that there's not likely to be much news, and that replacing FA with that would be a waste of space (SB: I said a waste of ''fat'' space), but that doesn't mean your suggestion is any good either. And no, I still can't say I understand your frustration. Keep your pants on, this is just a wiki about dumb animal characters. When you think about it, it's not all THAT important, and certainly not worth getting quite this upset over. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:04, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::::RickTommy - regarding the compromise: Do you really want what you're asking for? First, it's not similar to mine; it's the exact opposite. Second, the problem is that we are running out of usable articles, and fast. Your suggestion is to do nothing about it; just keep going as fast as we're currently going, then switch to a set of FAs that goes ''seven times as fast'' as the "too fast" that we're already experiencing. After all, you seem to enjoy the Featured Article project, and your idea is to terminate it ASAP, and it doesn't make any sense for you to suggest that something you enjoy be terminated so soon. My idea was to slow the process down a good bit, which would (1) allow it to keep going for longer than the current rate projects, and (2) decrease the need for redirects. And logically, it seems like you'd prefer both of those. Am i missing something? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 03:45, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Looks like I have to bring this up again. "[I'm] trying to shove this through at the very last moment"?! Not only is it ''not'' the very last moment, but even if it was, that's irrelevent to whether it should be "shoved through". And in reply to some of the comments above:
::::::::Did you actually read the original versions of those comments? If not, I'll link to them right here: [[http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection/Discussion_Archive_2010_Weeks_21-30#Everybody_to_the_Limit]] [[http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection/Discussion_Archive_2010_Weeks_31-40#No_Hands_on_Deck.21]] The first one was a complete falsehood (I was ''not'' "beaten"!); the second one was a form of ordering around, from a user who is ''younger'' than me, which didn't belong there anyway.
::::::::And yes, I do want what I'm asking for. I do enjoy this project, but if we speed it up so we can terminate it ASAP, it's win-win in the long run. We won't have to maintain it anymore, and I won't have to get angry whenever we have a redirect.
::::::::And as for articles being "usable" "or pointless", I would just like to point out that we feature a certain article, and I quote, "[because] it showcases an important part of the Homestar Runner body of work and/or highlights the fine work of this wiki. We also might just think it's cool."
::::::::And last but not least, I will be away for the next couple of weeks, and I will probably have limited Internet access (if any). So during that time, could you please be fair on me regarding this project? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:10, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::You don't "''have'' to" bring up anything. If you ''want'' to continue acting like a child, that's your prerogative. The fact remains that there was no reason for you to try to change it to your way at the last minute when A: the rerun FA had ''already'' been not only created, but updated for current times and B: you could just as easily have created it for ''next'' week and it'd have shown up then instead. We have far more weeks in the future than articles to feature (hence the situation) so there's really no reason to throw something together at the last minute when you can take your time on a writeup and give people at least a week to improve, comment, and collaborate rather than putting something up last minute that could really be improved if given more of a chance. And before you start talking about how you hate the redirects and you were only trying to make sure we have a "real" FA this week, let me remind you again that that ''no one'' on this wiki aside from you considers the rerun FAs to be any less "real" than newly created ones.
:::::::::I ''did'', in fact, read the comments, and they're relatively benign really. So what if it's not actually true that you weren't beaten? She didn't know that. All she ''did'' know at the time was that you'd been dominating the suggestions for several weeks previous, and was apparently, rightly, glad to have been able to make a suggestion before you. The second one was also, a quite correct request for you to stop trying to control FA. I was unaware of any rule on the wiki that said that younger users are not allowed to make polite requests of older users. However, if you want to talk about age, let me hit you with a slightly different, yet largely related word, which is the real issue here. "Maturity". Quite frankly, the person who made the comment you're complaining about has been, as a wiki user, somewhat more mature and responsible in his behavior and his interactions with others than you have. On the other hand, your notions about how to deal with others and "I'm older so I'm better" are remarkably ''im''mature, as is your getting worked up over minutiae such as this. I strongly suggest you quit harping on about those comments and move on. The less you continue to complain about them, the more they'll disappear into the obscurity of the discussion archives. Seriously. It's time to drop it.
:::::::::We don't need to feature as many articles as we possibly can before terminating FA. In fact, there is a discussion below concerning how to retire FA, though the process of switching over is likely to take quite a while even if and when we flesh out the idea and get consensus for it. That said, in the meantime, you don't "''have'' to" get angry every time we have a redirect, and we're not going to make a major change to the current methods just to keep you from getting angry about a project which the rest of us take lightheartedly and in good humor.
:::::::::You are correct that the reason to feature articles is as you quoted, however, different users have different opinions on what parts of the Homestar Runner body of work are "important", what constitutes "the fine work of this wiki", and what's just plain "cool". That's the entire point of having a selection process and requiring consensus. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with this.
:::::::::Lastly, I don't know what you mean by "being fair on you" regarding this project while you're away, but it sounds like you're worried that in your absence we'll be plotting against you and doing things specifically just to hurt you. I assure you that no one on this project is out to get you, and that all anyone cares about is maintaining a quality wiki. In actuality, if you're not here, it's much easier for us not to butt heads with you. I leave you to ponder what's been said. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:23, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Now I have something else to add. First of all, regarding some flawed logic: for example, this week, Ngamer01 could've supported or opposed the article that was suggested this week, but he just redirected to the old FA and did not give his opinion on the article that was suggested.
::::::::::Second of all, I don't even want outdated FAs to be up-to-date, because of a little something called ''preservation''. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:58, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::You seem to be conveniently missing a big point behind this situation: a few weeks ago I reverted your FA push because you added something to the queue merely ''hours'' before the article switchover in order to justify switching the FA from a rerun to an article of your choosing. That barely gives anyone much time to provide any alternatives to push to the queue or comment. Defender clearly pointed this out in the paragraph above and even suggested that we allow items to sit in the queue for a least a week before it's actually featured. This time you created an FA of your choosing just a little over ''two days'' before featuring (I'm sure you're aware the FA switches over Sunday afternoon Eastern time). So, this is a matter of not having an individual unilaterally dominating the FA and for providing people with ample time to express their own opinions (even if there is no one there to provide it).
:::::::::::As for outdated FAS: we're not altering the original FA, so that is preserved. This is a wiki, so all history is preserved (even some spam!). Updating the outdated FA is a matter of providing the ''correct'', up-to-date information on our main page. It baffles me as to why you'd find that so objectionable. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:50, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::I'd add that the logic is not flawed. The rules, as they stand, are as follows:
::::::::::#Someone may suggest a specific article.
::::::::::#If an article has enough support, it may be added to the queue.
::::::::::#If an article has enough refusal, it never gets featured.
::::::::::#If an article has no consensus either way, it remains under discussion.
::::::::::#If there is a week in which no articles have enough support, a redirect or updated FA is created.
::::::::::This means that an article without enough support doesn't "not get featured". It just means it won't be featured ''right now''. According to the rules, followed logically, step by step; You suggested an article. The article you suggested didn't have enough support, nor does anything else being discussed. As a result, an updated FA was created. The fact that you created an FA for the article you suggested before the updated FA was created is irrelevant. The article didn't have support, and as such, should not have had an FA created for it in the first place. Nowhere in the rules does it require someone to support or oppose a given suggestion, not even if someone inappropriately creates a writeup for it. Further, the fact that he reverted to an updated rerun FA indicates de facto opposition to your suggestion, lending even more credibility to going to the old FA. You're the only one here with the "flawed logic". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:58, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
These are the current problems with FAS (besides the obvious lower activity due to TBC having real lives these days):
1) There are too many suggestions on FAS. A majority of these is by one user.
2) Other users cannot suggest alternatives because this one user put forward his own alternatives.
3) I cannot suggest alternatives because all of the suggestions from this one user I either don't support or care for one way or another (ie if the wiki supports a particular suggestion, I wouldn't oppose it).

4) I would love to be more active on FAS, but this one user never gives anyone else a chance and throws a fit when their way isn't followed.
5) Said user tries to sneak in FAs at the extremely last minute or right after the new week starts.
6) Said user tries to frame any attempts to redirect or put up revised past FAs as personal attacks on him.

The bottom line before the extreme measure of banning said user from FAS is suggested, we should whittle down the 40+ items that are suggested on FAS before allowing new suggestions. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:49, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

:Do you ''have'' to talk about me as if I'm not here?! And in reply to your points:
:1) Yes, because we are ''totally'' going to get suggestions from other users with this level of activity.
:2) The way FAS works, you don't have to suggest alternatives except on week-specific discussions. Of course, you could always start a discussion for your suggestion - but is anyone doing that?
:3) Same as 2.
:4) Excuse me? I am very well giving everyone a chance. If anything, ''you're'' not giving ''me'' a chance.
:5) For your information, it used to be common practice to write the FA a day or two before it goes live. Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating, but the point is, it did happen at times in the past.
:6) Well, I do get the feeling that you do it just because you know I don't like it. It's a common feeling.
:And even if I am acting this way about this project, that threat with a ban was uncalled-for. I want those suggestions whittled down, too. And just by the way, there are actually 20+ of them. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 15:05, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Ngamer that the page is getting out of control with suggestions no one cares about. I agree that there are more suggestions there by the said user than should be allowed by one user at one time, and I agree that it has to stop. Oh, and RT, he wasn't talking as if you're not here, he was trying to be polite and speak in generalities and focus on how to manage the wiki in the general untenability of the situation, so as not to come off as a direct attack at you sounding like "RickTommy does this and RickTommy does that". It's more than I probably would have done if I had been writing that, and personally, I agree that it's really time for you to give FA a rest. Oh, and reality check, you're NOT giving anyone a chance, you try to dominate the entire process, and insist that it's not fair to you. A bit of helpful advice for life, if everyone but you says you're wrong, you probably are. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:33, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

:Back to this after several months. If an article must have at least three supporters for consensus to feature, let me say this: I can find at least [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2008 Weeks_21-30#HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 30 (Jul 21-27)|one instance]] under the old format when an article got featured despite having only two users supporting it.
:And about the "no putting articles in the queue/creating FAs less than a week before going live" rule: there was no such rule before this year, and none of the users trying to enforce this rule (DeFender, Stux, and Ngamer have so far done so) are sysops.
:Lastly, vague comments such as "I can't quite put my finger on what I think is missing" just make it much harder for an article to be featured. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:38, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
::There has never been a rule that only sysops may enforce policy, not that they create policy; rather, it is by consensus. I think there is a '''very clear''' consensus that your constant attempts to make the queue go your way are disruptive; that's why they're being reverted and that's why no one except you has objected to this week rule.
::One of the reasons we left the old format was '''because''' it was so easy to get stuck featuring something without much consensus. I know you far prefer the old format, but you in a minority of ''one'' in that respect, so making comparisons with that format isn't going to convince others. (And I once again remind you that, had '''you''' not started monopolizing the page under the old format, we might never have gotten around to changing to the new format.)
::Lastly, if you get no response to a comment, that in no way gives you an excuse to go and [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AFeatured_Article_Selection&diff=732969&oldid=732967 ram your preferred choice through] a day before it would go live. Particularly since you waited less than a day and half after you left this comment, which is a very short time on a wiki going as slowly as this one.
::This wiki is built on collaboration and accepting wiki conventions, even if we don't agree with them. If you're not willing to do so, that is, if you continue to try to force your preferences through, we can just ban you from adding to the queue at all. So please take this notice that your behaviour must change. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

== Take-a-break.exe ==

I alluded to it in the thread above, but I'd like to formally suggest here that we retire the featured articles, at least for a while. In their place I think we should have a section that links to several toons of the day. The list would be automated. We can work on the exact number and format, but for example how about a big toon, a short, a few Strong Bad Emails, and a couple of miscellaneous toons. This would give people a reason to check the site several times a week, we could all remember how awesome H*R is, and we could stop worrying about choosing articles and having to do write-ups. What say you? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:36, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm all for it. I've felt that it was time to stop FAs for quite some time. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:34, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
::I rather like this idea. I would add that It would be nice to have either a VERY limited manner in which to manually select toons for specific days, such as the weens, or else make the automation robust enough so as to weight certain toons above others at certain times of the year. We could probably use the old FA writeups from toons which have been featured, (updated for modern day if necessary) and then make writeups for the remaining ones, and then we'll never have to worry about getting enough contributors to fill that space with something new each week. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:40, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:::I support It's dot com's idea. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.11|128.103.10.11]] 13:16, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
::::I also support It's dot com's idea. FAS should be given a vacation until TBC are able to resume H*R for a considerable period of time (maybe not full-time anymore like the old days, but I'd be fine with three to six updates a year if possible). — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 15:18, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, takin' a break ''is'' a good idea. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 16:49, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm inclined to support Dot com's idea. It would be nice to see mockups and specific implementation details. So I'm hoping this note moves the discussion forward toward that goal. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:21, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
::I've decided to get the ball rolling with a [[User:DeFender1031/ToonOfTheDayMain|mock up of the main page]] as it might appear with such a feature. I took the image from the big toon's article, and the descriptions from the tops of the toons' respective articles, which I think makes the most sense. (Originally I'd thought to use FA writeups, but if we're doing several toons like DC suggested, that became too bulky and the simple summaries we already have will suffice.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:27, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
:::That's a good idea, DeFender. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 00:20, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Game Sightings

Heimstern Läufer — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:16:48 GMT

Heimstern Läufer: I certainly *will* revert! We're not going to include this on our page; people can find out for themselves if they're really interested.

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== ''[[Wikipedia:Chzo Mythos|7 Days a Skeptic]]'' ==
*In the special edition of ''7 Days a Skeptic'', an unknown character types 'pasta sauce' into the computer to bring up the main menu. Entering the same phrase into the computer in the Captain's quarters brings up an email to Strong Bad, asking him how he types with his boxing gloves on.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Adventure Quest|Adventure Quest]]'' ==
*In the free flash RPG ''[http://www.battleon.com Adventure Quest]'', occasionally when a Guardian summons the Guardian Dragon, the dragon will say: "BURNINATE!!! (do not sue us please)"
*Also, there was a Homestar Runner chat icon in the forum that you could choose but it has been removed.
*On Mogloween 2006, one of the randomly generated names for the houses was [[Trogdor|Trogdor]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Age of Empires III|Age of Empires III]]'' ==
When you enter the cheat code 'sooo good' in single player, each unit that is killed will display a Teen-Girl-Squad-like death, which varies based on the type of unit that killed them. MUSKETEER'ED! and JANNISSARY'ED! are some examples.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Amazing Island|Amazing Island]]'' ==
On page 9/10 of the [http://safemanuals.com/user-guide-instructions-owner-manual/SEGA/AMAZING%20ISLAND-_E manual], there are instructions on creating a new character. Whoever took the picture had named his character Homestar.

== ''[[Wikipedia:American McGee's Grimm|American McGee's Grimm]]'' ==
One of the loading screen messages is "Ken loves Trogdor".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Backyard Skateboarding|Backyard Skateboarding: Game of the Year Edition]]'' ==
On the Customize Skater option, one choice of shirt is titled "Star Runner"; it is a red shirt with a white star.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Ben Jordan: Paranormal Investigator|Ben Jordan: Paranormal Investigator]]'' ==
*In the [http://www.grundislavgames.com/bj/ third game] in the series, when looking at a hut it is described as "A small thatched-roof cottage, suitable for burnination."

*In the [http://www.grundislavgames.com/bj/ first game], you have access to a computer labelled "Compy 386".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Cardmaster Conflict|Cardmaster Conflict]]'' ==
In the free online trading card game [http://cardmasterconflict.com/cmc/ Cardmaster Conflict], there is an avatar part called the "Gotta Have Blue Hair", which looks like Stinkoman's hair.

== ''Chain of Fire'' ==
The intro of level 25 tells the player "Time to [[burninate]]!"

== ''[[Wikipedia:Counter-Strike|Counter-Strike]]'' ==
''Counter-Strike'' servers with AdminMod installed occasionally display messages "(username) was burninated by Trogdor, er by (username)" and "Headshot! For good, and for AWESOME!"

== ''[[Wikipedia:Crash Tag Team Racing|Crash Tag Team Racing]]'' ==
While racing, Crunch might say, "I burninated that chump!" and "Haha! Your car asplode!"

While racing, Pasadena O'Possum might say, "Hey! This ain't a monster truck rally! That's SUNDAY SUNDAY SOMEDAY!!".

Several Die-O-Ramas have titles similar to "ARROWED!" from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] and/or [[comic]]. Among them are "SHARKED!", "CROSSBOWED!", "EXPLODEDED!"[[#CTTR_1|[1]]], "LIQUIDATED" and "JAWED!".

# "Explodeded" has an extra "ed" at the end, which refers to the 'D! from TGS. The font used for the Die-O-Ramas didn't have an apostrophe, so this was used instead.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Custom Robo|Custom Robo]]'' ==
*Partway through the American version of the game, there is a quiz on basic game knowledge. One of the (wrong) answers to a multiple-choice question is "Parts Burninator".
*There is also a gun called the "Homing Star"

== ''Cyborg Livestock Outer Space'' ==
If you defeat the alien mothership from Shockwave's [http://www.shockwave.com/sw/content/cyborglivestock Cyborg Livestock from Outer Space], the end text says that the ship "asplode," just as your head does in the game [[StrongBadZone]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Derby Owner's Club|Derby Owner's Club]]'' ==
One of the default sires' name is "Homestar Runner".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Diner Dash: Flo On The Go|Diner Dash: Flo on the Go]]'' ==
[[Image:Diner dash 3 - everybody to the limit.png|thumb|This diner's going to the moooooooooon!]]
One of the secret levels is titled [[Everybody to the Limit]]. The description is: "Can you handle everything and the kitchen sink? This one's [[personal favorites|going to the moon]]!!"
{{clear}}

== ''[[Wikipedia:Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten|Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten]]'' ==
One Axe-type weapon is called the "[[Strong Bad|Strong Bat]]", and its description is given as "[[Eh! Steve|Hey Sdeve!]]"

== ''[[Wikipedia:Disney's Toontown Online|Disney's Toontown Online]]'' ==
One of the names you can name your Toon is [[Fat Dudley]].
During the monologue preceding the toontask for shutting down a sellbot factory, The store owner, Coach Zucchini, says that the toon can refer to him as [[Coach Z]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Dragon Fable|Dragon Fable]]'' ==
In one of the Sneevil Box Quests, you kill a sneevil and it gives you a random password. One of these passwords is "Burninate", an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].

Also, in the blacksmithing skill mini-game, Yulgar may ask you to craft such items as "Moist Letter Opener of Burninating."

One of the Warrior sayings is "[[Double Deuce|Douuuuuuuuble Deuce!]]"

In the Design Notes for May 2nd, 2008, the game programmer Rolith complains that "Nobody Likes his style..." This is a possible reference to [[Nebulon]].

During Mogloween '09 (the game's halloween event), an unlockable mask, "Big Bad Luchadore Mask" is a pretty clear shout out to [[Strong Bad]]'s face.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Dragonvale|Dragonvale]]'' ==
One of the decorations is a "Thatched Roof Cottage". The description also recommends, "Just be careful placing it too close to fire dragons. It would be tragic to accidentally burninate your thatched roof cottage."

== ''[[Wikipedia:Everbound|Everbound]]'' ==
This homemade parody of ''Everquest'', found at Albinoblacksheep.com, allows one of the characters to summon Trogdor the Burninator.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Everquest|Everquest]]'' ==
In the zone Inktu'ta, The Unmasked Chapel, there is a monster called "Cursecaller Fhqwhgads". You can see a picture of it [http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=18067 here].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel|Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel]]'' ==
Listed in the credits, listed under "SPECIAL THANKS," is "SB/HSR".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Fat Princess|Fat Princess]]'' ==
In the in-game manual, page five, one of the instruction blips reads: "Press (square) to burninate with fireballs". An AI Character name is also called "Marsy Pants".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls|Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls]]'' ==
*A man in Hellfire Chasm says "This is private property. Trespassers will be burninated.".
*In Whisperwind Cove one of the items you obtain in one of the floors from a dwarf is called 'Witches Brew"
**Both these areas were exclusively for the GBA version of the games, and were not on the original copies for the NES, or in the PlayStation remake Final Fantasy Origins on which Dawn of Souls is based.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Fortress Forever| Fortress Forever]]'' ==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Q5gzcvXp4 This preview] mentions "Burninating the Players."

== ''[http://www.jmtb02.com/flash/firestorm.htm Four Second Firestorm]'' ==
*One of the minigames is "Don't [[A Splode]]", which involves a car dodging boxes of explosives.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Full Auto 2|Full Auto 2: Battlelines]]'' ==
*One of the dragon decals players can put on their cars in the PSP version is called "Burninator".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Galactic Civilizations 2: Dread Lords|Galactic Civilizations 2: Dread Lords]]'' ==
In the custom race options one of the custom race icons looks suspiciously like an upside down [[Strong Bad]]. [http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6596/racelogo194vw.png]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Garry's Mod|Garry's Mod]]'' ==

In one of the maps, rp_richland, in one of the houses, there appears to be a kid's room. On one of the walls is a crayon drawing of [[Trogdor]] burninating some people, as well as a cloud (which also has a single beefy arm) throwing a lightning bolt. [http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4298/trogdorgmod.png]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Goblin Commander: Unleash the Horde|Goblin Commander: Unleash the Horde]]'' ==
In the credits of this game, it says "Additional Thanks To: Strong Bad."

== ''[[Wikipedia:Guild Wars|Guild Wars]]'' ==
*As an Elementalist (a mage), one can acquire spells called "[http://gwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Professions.Detail&id=195 Mark of Rodgort]" and "[http://gwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Professions.Detail&id=201 Rodgort's Invocation]." Both spells cause a condition in which the target catches on fire. Rodgort spelled backwards is Trogdor.
*In the latest update, one can go on a quest to bring an evil Stone Summit dwarf a [[Cold One]], which you create by adding ice to a Warm One.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Guitar Hero II|Guitar Hero II]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s|Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s]]'' ==
(See main article: [[Guitar Hero]])

== ''[[Wikipedia:Halo 3|Halo 3]]'' ==
*When you turn on the "I Would Have Been Your Daddy" skull, one of the things a marine would say while dying is "Life... flashing... before my eyes... Johnson... you still owe me 5 bucks..." which may be a reference to the SBEmail [[army]].
*In the level Foundry, in random piles of trash there are Chinese boxes with what appears to be Trogdor the Burninator.

== ''[http://www.lawlolawl.com/games/idontevenknow.phpI I Don't Even Know]'' ==
One minigame, entitled "HOW JOO MAKE A'SPLODE?", requires you to activate a bomb.

=="[http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/idrum-club-edition/id287410761| iDrum Club Edition]" ==
One of the kits in the music app is called "Tandy 400".

== ''[[Wikipedia:I Wanna Be the Guy|I Wanna Be the Guy]]'' ==
It is a common misconception that the hugely difficult freeware platformer ''I Wanna Be the Guy'' got its name from [[1-Up]]'s line in [[japanese cartoon]] (or even vice versa, even though said email predates IWBtG by nearly five years). According to [http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/faq.php the FAQ for the game], Michael "Kayin" O'Reilly is a fan of H*R, but came up with the name of his game for a different reason. 

== ''[[Wikipedia:Imagine: Babysitter|Imagine: Babysitter]]'' ==
One of the items you can purchase at the store is the [[Original Book]].

== ''Jack Russell'' ==
In this flash game by Kenney Altera, the in-game instructions warn that if the protagonist dog touches a mine, he will [[StrongBadZone| A SPLODE]]! The game can be found [http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/289115 here] at [http://newgrounds.com Newgrounds].

== ''Jet Set Emily: Baby On The Go'' ==
In this game for the ZX Spectrum, one of the screens is entitled "homestarrunner.com" and resembles Homestar's head. (This screen only appears in the revision and later versions; earlier versions had a screen advertising irma.s5.com, an all-but-defunct Garfield site.) Incidentally, this game was designed by TheLazenby, a member of the Homestarrunner.net and Socks and Vinegar forums; the newest and final version, although not designed by TheLazenby, still retains this screen. (However, in the new version, a secret teleporter is said to be hidden somewhere in Homestar's head.)

==[[Wikipedia:John Woo Presents Stranglehold| John Woo Presents Stranglehold]]==
In the Xbox 360 version of the game, an Achievment can be unlocked called "Asplosion", which is similar to [[Vector Strong Bad|Vector Strong Bad's]] "Asplode."

== [[Wikipedia:Kingdom Hearts II|Kingdom Hearts II]] ==
*When fighting the Hydra in the Colosseum, a reaction called Urninator will be available. Urninator is one letter off from Burninator.
* In the BradyGames strategy guide for the game, on page 28, there is a tipbox labeled "[[Everybody to the Limit]]", a reference to the song of the same name.

== [[Wikipedia:Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance|Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance]] ==
*The journal entry for the Tatsu Blaze uses the phrase, "Prepare for burnination".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Kingdom of Loathing|The Kingdom of Loathing]]'' ==
[[Image:Marziskull.PNG|thumb|You're not a broom?!]]
*One of the ways to attack someone in Player vs. Player is to "Burninate".
*In The Barrel full of Barrels, if you break open an exploding barrel, the result text tells you "[http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Barrel_full_of_Barrels#Your_Barrel_A_Splode Your Barrel A Splode], hurting you. Badly".
*In the Strange Leaflet, an area inspired by old text-based adventure games, you can enter in "[[Dennis]]" to hear that "You cannot go DENNIS from here."
*In the chat function, the chat command '/[[50 emails|baleet]] username' carries out the same effect as '/ignore username'.
*The game contains an item, [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Marzipan_skull Marzipan skull], which contains a reference to [[Marzipan|the character Marzipan]] and the [[Wikipedia:Marzipan|food of the same name]] in the description.
*The game also contains a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Mr._Balloon Mr. Balloon] item, the description of which refers to Strong Bad's song about "the High Voice Crew" from [[helium]].
*The description for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Pirate_zombie_robot_head pirate zombie robot head] contains the text "Must... fight... [[jibblies]]!" – a quote from [[More Fan Costumes]].
*The description for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Skewered_jumbo_olive skewered jumbo olive] says it has been "[[TROGDOR!|sworded]]".
*The descriptions for the eXtreme meat [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/EXtreme_meat_staff staff], [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/EXtreme_meat_sword sword], and [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php//EXtreme_meat_crossbow crossbow] say the respective weapon is "[[Everybody to the Limit|to the limit]]".
*The filename of the "[http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/100_Pound_Load 100 Pound Load]" Trophy is [[Heavy Lourde|heavy_lourde.gif]].
*One of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Hey%2C_baby._Wanna_wrestle%3F adventures] in a drunken stupor has the text "You buffoon. You carpetbagger. She gives you whatfor", a variant on a quote from [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] in [[50 emails]].
*Two of the combat messages from the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Spirit_Hobo spirit hobo] refer to [[Senor Cardgage]] - the message about "low rates and percent signs" is similar to a quote from [[Senor Mortgage]], and the message about a girl named Helvetica is based on [[garage sale]], when Senor Cardgage refers to Strong Sad by that name.
*There have been several references to "[[How do you type with boxing gloves on?]]" throughout the game:
**When spectating on the KWE wrestling matches in the KWE chatroom, the announcer has introduced Roo (who is basically a kangaroo wearing boxing gloves) with "How the heck does he karate-chop with boxing gloves on?"
**Giving a weapon to [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Roo Roo] in the KWE Back Room results in the message, ". . . holding this with boxing gloves will be the greatest challenge I have faced since that time I tried to type!"
**One of the Fun Facts on [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Roo_trading_card Roo's trading card] reads "Roo never takes off his boxing gloves! It's a good thing he doesn't do much typing!"
**When fighting [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Box The Box], one of the attack messages reads "It boxes your ears. How does it box with typing gloves on?"
**When fighting a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Raging_bull raging bull], one of the miss messages says, "He prepares to pummel you, but you confuse him by asking how he can do that with boxing gloves on."
**The entry for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Boxing_glove boxing glove] reads "How do I type with these things on? The better question is how will you repeat that question after I knock all your teeth out?"
*The verb "Arrow[['d]]" has been ocassionally used in the game:
**In The Hidden Temple, one of the events is entitled "[http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Arrowed%21 Arrowed!]".
**One of the gambling events in the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Money_Making_Game Money Making Game] involves shooting an arrow into a papaya à la William Tell. If you hit the papaya, it is said to be "arrow'd".
**One of the Valentine's Day gifts is an [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Arrow%27d_heart_balloon arrow'd heart balloon].
*One of the KWE wrestlers, [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Chori_Zo "Chori Zo"], has "[[Type|Lady-type]]" for her gender in the KWE Fact Book.
*When fighting a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Scary_pirate_(cursed) scary pirate], one of the miss messages says, "He moans "brrraaaiiiaaarrrnns!" and starts to gnaw on your skull, but does a pretty lousy [[A Jorb Well Done|jeorb]]."
*When fighting a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Mayonnaise_wasp mayonnaise wasp], one of the miss messages says, "It tries to coat you with nasty mayonnaise, but you counter with a [[funny|ketchup bomb]]."
*The image of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Star_shirt star shirt] resembles [[Homestar Runner|Homestar Runner's]] shirt.
*One of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Warehouse_of_Eternal_Stench stench resistance tests] in the Daily Dungeon contains the text "or as I like to call it, '[[Rotten Egglünd|Rotten Eggland]]'."
*One of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Night_Gallery spooky resistance tests] in the Daily Dungeon uses the phrase "[[Jibblies|the jibblies]]".
*Before [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_LAAAAME_Observatory The LAAAAME Observatory] was destroyed by part of a comet, one of the galaxies you could observe was called, "Distant Galaxy NGC-404." The filename of the image was, [[404'd|"404d.gif"]].
*If the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Scroll_of_ancient_forbidden_unspeakable_evil Scroll of ancient forbidden unspeakable evil] causes hot damage to you, the game says, "These things are bad for you", perhaps referring to Homestar's line from [[invisibility]].
*Sometimes, when you consume a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Fancy_but_probably_evil_chocolate Fancy but probably evil chocolate], it can be "filled with some sort of witch's brew, or perhaps witch's brüe", referring to both [[Witch's Brew]] and [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Starting June 25, 2007, when you use the new item [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Black_Body%E2%84%A2_spray Black Body Spray] it states that "You feel moxious and dangerous, but it's hard to operate when everyone is trying to get [[all up ons]]."
*The description for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Fire-breathing_duck Fire-breathing duck] contains the line "the important thing is that somebody gets this freakin' duck away from you," a reference to [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] and [[Main Page 13]].
*While fighting a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/War_Hippy_Airborne_Commander War Hippy Airborne Commander], one may get the effect "All Covered in [[Whatsit]]".
*The description for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Fire fire] item mentions it could be used for "blending in at a peasant convention," a reference to [[Trogdor]] burninating peasants and/or [[Rather Dashing]] having to make himself "on fire like a peasant" in [[Peasant's Quest]].
*In [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Hobopolis Hobopolis], if you have Richard make nine scarehoboes at [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Richard%27s_Redoubt Richard's Redoubt], he says "I can do it! I can do it nine times!", a reference to the Strong Bad Emails [[crazy cartoon]] and [[virus]].
*Also in Hobopolis, some of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Hobo_Names Hobo Names] are references.
**One of the titles for a Hot-aligned Hobo is [[Trogdor|Burninatin']].
**One of the occupations for a Stench-aligned Hobo is [[The Poopsmith]].
**One of the nicknames for a Spook-aligned hobo is "Gives you the [[jibblies]].
*The [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Slime-covered_speargun Slime-covered Speargun] mentions a [[Nunchuck gun]].
*The [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Thermos_of_brew Thermos of Brew] is stated in the description to be full of [[Witches' Brew]]. In addition, the consumption text contains the line "You dwink the witches' bwew", a reference to [[Homestar Runner |Homestar Runner's]] speech impediment.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Kings of Chaos|Kings of Chaos]]'' ==
When your army wins a battle, one of the phrases is "You burninated the enemy!" Likewise, when your army is beaten, one of the phrases is "The enemy burninated your army!"
[http://www.kingsofchaos.com Kings of Chaos].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Luminous Arc|Luminous Arc]]''==
One of the random monster names in Luminous Arc is "Asplode".

At one point, one character says "First off, I'm not human, I'm a dragon. Or a dragon-man. Or something."

== ''[[Wikipedia:Magical Starsign|Magical Starsign]]'' ==
When the main characters have reached the planet of light, Nova, one of the Dancing Fruit will at one point run by the party, screaming "A-splode!!"

== ''[[Wikipedia:The Matrix Wars|The Matrix Wars]]'' ==
If you successfully attack another realm in this RPG, "you burninated the enemy!" may appear at the end of the attack entry.
[http://www.thematrixwars.com]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Minecraft|Minecraft]]'' ==
One of the splash messages is "Consummate V's!" [http://www.minecraft.net] (See [http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Splash Splash] on Minecraft Wiki)

== ''[[Wikipedia:Monday Night Combat|Monday Night Combat]]'' ==
One of the ProTags in the game you can unlock in Monday Night Combat is named "[[Trogdor|Burninator]]".

== ''NASCAR 2005: Chase For the Cup'' ==
One of the available designs for a Craftsman Truck paint scheme is called "A-splode".

== ''Nevermore Game'' ==
If you click on the i sign at the 4th scene, the Wheat Grows Sweet noise from [[Peasant's Quest]] will play.

Playing Location: http://www.stickpage.com/nevermoregameplay.shtml

== ''[[Wikipedia:Neverwinter Nights|Neverwinter Nights]]'' ==
New NWN patches have demo modules that illustrate creatures that have been added in those patches. These modules, created by Jay Watamaniuk, tend to be a bit silly in tone. The demo module included in v1.64, [http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/module_demo_landsea-puma.html Land Sea-Puma], has a signpost with following directions:
: North - Certain Dhoom
: East - Most Likely Dhoom
: West - Fair to Excellent Conditions for Dhoom
: Dennis - Ye Will Find Nothing of Yon Interest Here Aye

== ''[http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=24438 Nicholas' Weird Adventure 2]'' ==
*When Nicholas speaks to the guard in Morth's castle, he says, "I say there, monstrosity!", a clear reference to [[animal]].
*Later in the dialogue, the guard says back to Nicholas,"It serves you right, stupid pfargtl!", an obvious reference to [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]].
*Nicholas refers to a pile of refuse as [[whatsit]] in the sewer area.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Osu!|Osu!]]'' ==
*An Osu! player usernamed Agent Spin Here made a [http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7045 beatmap] of the song [[2 many knives]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Overlord II|Overlord II]]'' ==
*Upon finding the Red Minion Hive in the Nordberg Sanctuary, Gnarl comments that they are the "Burninators" of the Minion army.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Pac-Man World 3|Pac-Man World 3]]'' ==
Near the end of the Gogekko Tower level, Orson asks Pac-Man to hack into a computer, to which he replies, "It's not easy to [[How_Do_You_Type_With_Boxing_Gloves_On?|type with boxing gloves on]]."

== ''Pico's Cousin'' ==
When you beat the game, at the 'bonus features' section, click 'Useless info', listed there is 'Homestarruner.com rules.'

== ''Portal: Flash Version'' ==

On the AddictingGames page, at the end of the description of the game, it says "Do you has?"

== ''[[Wikipedia:Postal 2|Postal 2]]'' ==

In the ''Postal 2'' add-on ''A Week In Paradise'', in one minigame, when you look to your left, a piece of graffiti with the text "POMx2" and a pic of [[Pom Pom]] can be seen. When you go out of the Pom Pom corridor, a billboard above the Postal Dude displays the [[Homestar Runner]] "Seriously." [[wallpaper]]. Also, next to a clinic in the minigame, is the [[Homestarmy]] poster. Inside the clinic, the [[booOOMbox]] can be seen playing [[Everybody To The Limit]].

== [http://lrnj.com/ ''Project LRNJ''] ==
When your character dies in the game, death messages are displayed. One of them is [[A Splode|"Your head a splode!"]]

== [http://www.armorgames.com/games/retron_popup.html ''Retron''] ==
Losing all your lives displays the message [[A Splode|"YOUR SHIP A SPLODE"]].

== Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse ==
In episode 5, Chippy's bleeps are transcribed as [[Preeeeow|"preeyow"]].

== ''[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/360579 Scribble 2!]'' ==
One of the levels, a right-pointing arrow, is entitled "[[Arrow'd]]".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Shadow Complex|Shadow Complex]]'' ==
In the Xbox Live Arcade title ''Shadow Complex'', the [[Wikipedia:Xbox Live#Gamerscore|achievement]] for getting a certain number of headshots is called "My Head A-splode".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor|Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor]]'' ==
*At one point, the hero can tell someone that Yuzu Tanikawa is another character's [[lady fan|ladyfan]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4|Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4]]'' ==

*In one scene, Yosuke Hanamura says that something gives him the [[jibblies]].
*And during the sequence of events that leads to the True Ending, he also says that the case is over [[KOT's VOQPCS!|for reals this time]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:The Sims: Makin' Magic|The Sims: Makin' Magic Expansion Pack]]'' ==
[[Image:StinkSmasher 20X6.png|thumb|The StinkSmasher 20X6]]
One of the appliances is called "StinkSmasher [[20X6]]."

== ''[[Wikipedia:The Sims 3: Generations|The Sims 3: Generations]]'' ==

One of the Trash compactors is named "[[Drive-Thru|The comPRESSOR]]".

== ''Slacker 2'' ==
During the credits, zoom in on Slacker's nametag to see a picture of Homestar on it.
== ''[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/533896 Sonic Annihilation]'' ==
*In the 3rd scene of this flash sonic says that eating someones guts is awesome but very [[jibblies|jibblie-giving]]
*in an older version of [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/524607 this show]Tails said [[holy crap]] as a reference to [[strong bad]]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Spore Creature Creator|Spore Creature Creator]]'' ==
A hidden picture of Strong Bad's head exists within the game's files. Its purpose is currently unknown.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic|Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic]]'' ==
One of the default name choices at the beginning is "Homsar Dell". You may need to click on the button again many times to come to this name.
[[Kerrek]] will show up as well.

== ''[[Wikipedia:StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty|StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty]]'' ==
When the Firebat unit is clicked on multiple times, one of its responses is [[dragon|"Burninating the countryside"]]

== ''Super Farkle'' ==
In this flash dice game on Facebook, you can find a "Sporty Runner" Egg as a prize. It is painted red with a white star and the top is blue, imitating Homestar's outfit.
== ''[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/528604 Super Mario dressup game!]'' ==
*In this flash game a secret item is [[Homestar Runner]]'s hat and shirt/[[Homestar Runner's Pants|pants]] to put on [[Mario]].
*Already visible are [[Homestar Runner]] and [[Strong Bad]]'s Shoes.

== ''Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom: Ultimate All Stars'' ==
For secret character Frank West's "Dead Rising" combo, he tosses the enemy in the air and whacks with a baseball bat into the sky. He either says "Dead Rising!" or "To the moooon!" which could be a nod to [[personal favorites]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Tony Hawk's American Sk8land|Tony Hawk's American Sk8land]]'' ==
*In the Vans Park level, go forward from the starting point, then spine transfer the side of the half-pipe to the quarter-pipe on the other side. If you land it, you get the gap called "WIIIIDESCREEN", a reference to [[flashback]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Tony Hawk's American Wasteland|Tony Hawk's American Wasteland]]'' ==
*In the Vans Park level, if you grind a rail around the corner on the third floor and jump out of bounds, you will see one of four messages, "Children'd!" "Arrowed!" "MSG'd!" or "Late 360 Shove-It to Boneless'D!"
**You can also see these messages by using a [[Wikipedia:Trainer (games)|trainer]] to increase your ollie or air height and jumping beyond the level's "ceiling."
*Also in Vans Park, if you board whack the generator thing, you will get a message and respawn. One of the possible messages is "Your head asplode".
*One of the cheats for the game is "2them00n," a reference to [[personal favorites]].
*When playing online, if you collide with another player, one of the messages is "You just K.O.[[-'d|'d]] 'the name of the person you just collided with'". This is a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Tony Hawk's Underground|Tony Hawk's Underground]]'' ==
*In the Moscow level, if you jump into a certain chimney, you die and the screen gives you a message. One of the messages is "BURNINATED!".
*In the Vancouver level, when you drive the limo, the license plate on the back of it says "LIMOZEEN".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Total Overdose: A Gunslinger's Tale in Mexico|Total Overdose: a Gunslinger's Tale in Mexico]]'' ==
If you manage to set an enemy on fire, you will be awarded with a burnination combo.

== ''Track Master'' ==
In [http://www.flashplayer.com/games/trackmaster.html this] flash game on [http://addictinggames.com/ Addictinggames.com], whenever you lose with a good score roughly around 10,000 the words "Good Jorb" appear on the screen.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Trivial Pursuit|Trivial Pursuit DVD: Pop2 Culture]]'' ==
One of the questions is:

Q: Who is Strong Bad's chronically depressed brother, in the web cartoon "Homestar Runner"? 
A: Strong Sad

== ''[[Wikipedia:Twilight heroes|Twilight heroes]]'' ==
When you're fighting Shifty Sam, one of the hit messages says "He blurs so fast that he actually turns invisible. You'd think he'd use that ability to go steal some cake rolls, but he uses it to hit you. A lot.", a reference to [[invisibility]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 3: Night of the Quinkan|Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 3: Night of the Quinkan]]'' ==
In the Game, the player can find hidden pieces of concept art. If the player finds 112 pieces, the 112'th one shows a creature resembling Trodor, but in Aboriginal cave painting style. [http://fyrekobra.deviantart.com/art/Trogdor-cameo-in-TY-3-281678211 See Image]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Urbz: Sims in the City|Urbz: Sims in the City]]'' ==
One of the Xizzles you can get is called "[[All up ons]]", which is a reference to [[suntan]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines|Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines]]'' ==
The detail text for flamethrower gas cannisters reads "A cannister of Burninator-brand flamethrower fuel", an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne|Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne]]'' ==
When Prince Kael'thas Sunstrider & the Blood Elves are captured & held prisoner within the enchanted dungeons of Dalaran, one of the pair of guards taunting Kael is named Trogdar, a subtle reference to [[Trogdor]].

Also, in "Extreme Candy War 2005", a bonus map produced by Blizzard themselves, a neutral shop sells "Extreme Warez", one of which is a power-up that doubles the number of troops in the next spawning for your faction; this power-up is aptly named "[[Everybody to the Limit|TO THE LIMIT]]!"

== ''[[Wikipedia:World of Warcraft|World of Warcraft]]'' ==
A character named Master Smith Burninate appears in this game. He is an NPC at Thorium Point who gives quests. His name is yet another reference to [[Trogdor]], who "burninates" the countryside.

In the Goblin Town, Ratchet, there is an ogre NPC whose name is [[A Jorb Well Done|Jorb]]. Also, there is an ogre named Chort outside the Blade's Edge Arena, another word mispronounced by Coach Z.

Also, Homestarrunner.com appears in the "Additional Thanks" section of the credits. [http://img65.exs.cx/img65/1446/creditsref3rc.jpg Click here] to view a screenshot.

In the WoW Collectible Card Game, a card in the "Onyxia's Lair'" raid deck is called "Burninate". It features the flavor text "Suddenly the lair was aflame, everything burning like thatched roof cottages."

In Cataclysm expansion there is a quest in the Deepholm zone (the elemental plane of earth) to kill a large Trogg general named [http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3887/troggzor.jpg Troggzor the Earthinator]. Doing so earns you the choice of three rewards, [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9236/troggzorrewards.jpg such as Earthinating Peasant Leggings].

== ''[http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/catalog.aspx?d=7 Xbox 360 Indie Games]'' ==
''[http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258550282/ The Oracle]'': One of the possible answers is "Outlook [[virus|equals very yes]]".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Xenoblade Chronicles|Xenoblade Chronicles]]'' ==
One of Riki's special arts is "Burninate". There's also a "Freezinate" art.

== ''[[Wikipedia:X-Men Legends|X-Men Legends]]'' ==
"Strong Bad and Friends" are thanked in the "Special Thanks" section of the End Credits.

== ''[[Wikipedia:You Don't Know Jack|You Don't Know Jack]]'' ==
On the web version of You Don't Know Jack, in [http://www.youdontknowjack.com/Jack7 episode seven] of the weekly Jack game, during the "Jack Attack" the name [[Strong Bad]] appears. Players have to match the given phrase, word, object or person to something else based on a clue. The clue for the game is 'Who's Your Unintelligible Friend?' and the correct match of [[The Cheat]] eventually appears. [[Strong Sad]] also appears as an incorrect answer.

The Cheat also appears as an incorrect answer in [http://www.youdontknowjack.com/node/390 episode 45s] "Jack Attack", 'Thanks for Your Help, but You're Blocking My Light.'

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