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<p>68.15.244.8: Your first message</p>
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68.15.244.8
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Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer
2005-02-09T03:12:49Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Fun Facts */ Upload problems the first time... Anydangways, I.J., I was trying to say I wasn't sure I agreed with you, but I'd go along with your judgement. And that "MB" should be capitalized.</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:peasantsquestmovie.jpg|thumb|right|TROGDOR!!!]]<br />
Rather Dashing, Trogdor, and others appear in a real-life film epic.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Rather Dashing]], [[Kerrek]], [[Jhonka]], [[The Red and Blue Knights]], [[Poor Gary]], [[King of Peasantry]], [[Trogdor]], [[Baby Lady]], [[The Baby]], [[Mendelev]], [[Dongolev]], [[Naked Ned]], Pterodactyl, The Three Keepers of Trogdor<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' It began as the best selling video computer TV game of all time. Uh- Not really, but still.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a shot of the Peasant's Quest video game.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A simple peasant wearing short pants quested his way into the heart of the nation. Now, for his greatest adventure yet, he will quest... INTO THEATERS!!<br />
<br />
''{The video game Rather Dashing fades into a real-life version of him.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Where's my cottage?<br />
<br />
''{Fade through black to Rather Dashing in his burninated cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' TROGDOR!!!<br />
<br />
''{A few random scenes pass on by, before the Videlectrix logo shows up. It is soon modified to "Videlectrix Films". Cut to a throne room. Rather Dashing is in front of the King of Peasantry.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' We have coexisted with the Burninator in these lands for centuries. ''{Quick clips of a map of Peasantry and peasants being terrorized by a CGI Trogdor pass by.}'' I can't have you marching up there in your short pants upsetting the balance!<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'll upset YOUR balance, my lord!<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' Rather Dashing, you will not sass back at this council!<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' From the sort of people who brought you Trogdor and Litigation Jackson...<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing walks up to Poor Gary.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Easy now Gary, I'm just going to WEAR MASK.<br />
<br />
''{He does so, and Gary whinnies and runs away. Cut to inside a cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''LADY PEASANT:''' Show me you're a real man, Rather Dashing.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a lake.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' THROW... BABY... ahhh!<br />
<br />
''{He throws the baby. Cut to a forest.}''<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV AND DONGOLEV:''' Haldo!<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV:''' I'm Mendelev...<br />
<br />
'''DONGOLEV:''' I'm Dongolev...<br />
<br />
''{We see a shot of Naked Ned peering out from behind a tree.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Rather Dashing? More like Rather Homely!<br />
<br />
''{We see Rather Dashing eating a meatball sub. Cut back to the Archery. Mendelev is helping him train.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR''': A Trog-venture for the whole Trog-Family!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the outside of the Inn. Rather Dashing runs out screaming, with the pot of grease over his head. He hits the side of the Inn, and falls down. Cut to the Jhonka, who seems to just be a human beating the ground. Cut to the archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'm just SO mad at Trogdor...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Access to Trogdor is strictly for peasants!<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing frowns. Cut back to Archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' He just goes around burning things and doesn't even care!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't smell like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the Kerrek, jumping around. Rather Dashing is next to him, battling him, kills him, and gets his belt. Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't dress like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Rather Dashing battling the Jhonka. Rather Dashing puts on the peasant clothes.}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave Entrance}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' And you certainly aren't ON FIRE like a peasant! ''{his helmet lid slams shut as he says "peasant"}'' <br />
<br />
''{Cut to the rocky top of Trogdor's Cave. An on-fire Rather Dashing is climbing it. As Rather Dashing maintains grip on top, a pterodactyl flies by.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest for adventure! A quest for revenge!<br />
<br />
''{Trogdor screams and breathes his horrible fire. The Three Guards, who suddenly appear, wave their hands. Cut to the very top of the cave. It's midnight.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest... for a peasant! Peasant's Quest!<br />
<br />
''{The Peasant's Quest logo appears. Cut to film creation credits. Cut to the King's Castle.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' And the Trogdor comes... in the night.<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Not tonight he doesn't... come... in the night... Trogdor.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor. He breathes fire. Cut to the Peasant's Quest Logo.}''<br />
<br />
==Fun Facts==<br />
[[Image:pq_trailer_end_credits.png|thumb|right|Ending Credits]]<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*This was labeled as "Super Bowl halftime!!" on the main page, because The Brothers Chaps put this trailer up at halftime of the [[Wikipedia:Super Bowl XXXIX|2005 Super Bowl]].<br />
*These are the single largest Flash files on the entire site, with the 2.8 MB "Jhonka" trailer being over one and a half times larger than the runner-up, [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]].<br />
*When this trailer was first put up at halftime, the size and popularity of the file apparently overloaded TBC's server. Because of this, the original 13.4 MB file was removed mid-Monday morning and was temporarily replaced with a closeup of Rather Dashing and a note saying that he would be back. By late morning, that was replaced with a screen enabling you to choose which file size you wanted to download: "Jhonka" (2.6 MB), "Kerrek" (5.4 MB), or "Trogdor" (10.3 MB).<br />
*The loading screen used to read "loading a fairly big deal", but it now says "rather loading", refering to Rather Dashing.<br />
*The ending credits read: <br />
<pre> Videlectrix Films<br />
in relative association with<br />
Thorax Legitimate present<br />
<br />
"Peasant's Quest: The Movie:<br />
The Dashing Adventures of Rather Dashing<br />
Or Trogdor's Big Movie"<br />
<br />
Matt Chapman Z. Gillespie Lucky Yates<br />
Matt Gribbon Jackie Chapman Rene Delefont<br />
Jonathan Howe Ryan Sterritt Christian Danley<br />
editor Ryan Sterritt cinematographer Ryan Sterritt/Mike Chapman<br />
original score Mike Chapman/Jonathan Howe<br />
pterydactyl wrangler Matt Chapman cartographer R. Craig Zobel<br />
<br />
Directed by Lem Sportsinterviews</pre><br />
*Many of the people listed in the credits are mentioned elsewhere on the site: Ryan Sterritt helped create the [[strongbad_email.exe|Strong Bad Email DVD]]. Jackie Chapman is [[Matt Chapman]]'s wife, [[Craig Zobel]] helps write some of the cartoons and [[Jonathan Howe]] helps with many of the games.<br />
*The word "pterodactyl" is incorrectly spelled "pterydactyl" in the end credits. <br />
*These credits are clickable for some reason (at least in the 13.4 MB & "Trogdor" versions); however, doing so doesn't seem to activate any easter eggs.<br />
*When Rather Dashing is climbing up the mountain, and you see him from the front, the background is that of the Stone Mountain trail to the top. It is a large granite mountain near Atlanta, near where [[The Brothers Chaps]] live.<br />
*We see that Craig Zobel is credited as the "cartographer", which is someone who makes maps.<br />
*When Rather Dashing puts on the mask and and when he throws the baby, he speaks the actual commands from the game, e.g. "throw baby".<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The movie is directed by [[Leomard Sportsinterviews]], well known for his book ''[http://www.homestarrunner.com/amazon.html This Book is Better Than 1st, 2nd and Quite Possibly 3rd Base]'', among other things.<br />
*''[[Litigation Jackson]]'' was the fictional movie mentioned in [[A Decemberween Pageant]].<br />
*Many of the clips in this preview are taken directly from the [[Peasant's Quest]] game, including:<br />
**Scaring [[Poor Gary]], the horse<br />
**Throwing [[The Baby]] in the water<br />
**Talking to the [[Baby Lady]]<br />
**The [[Kerrek]] pounding Rather Dashing into the ground.<br />
**Taking [[Kerrek]]'s belt in the rain<br />
**Mendelev and Dongolev teaching you how to shoot an arrow<br />
**Fighting The [[Jhonka]] (though you don't actually fight him in the game)<br />
**Naked Ned appearing from behind the tree<br />
**Rather Dashing's "Scalding Lake" vacation shirt<br />
**Rather Dashing with the pot stuck over his head<br />
**The guard's explanation of why Rather Dashing cannot see Trogdor<br />
**Climbing the mountain to Trogdor's lair<br />
**Getting pebbles<br />
*When the Three Keepers of Trogdor are waving in the cave (after CG-Trogdor), the reptilian creature flying in the background makes the same noise as [[Mrs. Commanderson]].<br />
*The Peasantry Map includes places such as:<br />
**The Frumpish Mountians (sp)<br />
**The Slightly Dangerous Fields<br />
**That Weird Tree (you know)<br />
**Trogdor's Keep<br />
**Clackum Falls<br />
*The music and ending lines ("And the Trogdor comes in the night!") are taken from Strong Bad's Trogdor song in the email [[dragon]].<br />
*"Thorax Legitimate" is refering to the [[Thorax Corporation]].<br />
*"Video computer TV game" is a possible reference to the easter egg in [[Peasant's Quest Preview]], where the first [[Videlectrix]] programmer says, "I'm supposed to release a video computer game on TV without this graphic!"<br />
<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*"Trogdor's Big Movie" may be a reference to the Winnie the Pooh movie, ''[[Wikipedia:Piglet's Big Movie|Piglet's Big Movie]]''.<br />
*The heading "A Lem Sportsinterviews Joint" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Spike Lee|Spike Lee]]'s movies which are called "A Spike Lee Joint."<br />
*The blue knight's helmet slamming shut when he says something in anger may be a reference to a similar thing happening to the character Dark Helmet in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Spaceballs|Spaceballs]]'' or Sir Bedevere in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Monty Python and the Holy Grail|Monty Python and the Holy Grail]]''.<br />
*The silhouette of Rather Dashing holding up the shining sword is a reference to the logo of ''[[Wikipedia:Legend of Zelda|The Legend of Zelda]].''<br />
*The hands being waved in the air near the end are reminiscent of the Helping Hands from the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Labyrinth (film)|Labyrinth]].''<br />
*The battle between Rather Dashing and Jhonka is reminiscent of Frodo's battle with Gollum at the end of ''[[Wikipedia:The Return of the King (book)|The Return of the King]]''.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.html view Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.swf view the flash file for Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1967 forum thread re: "Movie Trailer"]<br />
<br />
=== Temporary Mirrors ===<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com.nyud.net:8090/filmstyle.html Coral Cache]<br />
*[http://www.hsrforum.com/files/filmstyle.html HSRForum.com Mirror]<br />
*[http://www.jellob.com/filmstyle.html JelloB.com Mirror]<br />
*[http://www.everybodytothelimit.com/mirror/filmstyle.swf EverybodyToTheLimit.com Mirror] (Flash file only)<br />
<br />
[[Category:Peasant's Quest]][[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Kerrek Filmography]][[Category:Trogdor Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Peasant%27s_Quest_Movie_Trailer
Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer
2005-02-09T03:08:34Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Fun Facts */ whoops... like I said, the capitalization...</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:peasantsquestmovie.jpg|thumb|right|TROGDOR!!!]]<br />
Rather Dashing, Trogdor, and others appear in a real-life film epic.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Rather Dashing]], [[Kerrek]], [[Jhonka]], [[The Red and Blue Knights]], [[Poor Gary]], [[King of Peasantry]], [[Trogdor]], [[Baby Lady]], [[The Baby]], [[Mendelev]], [[Dongolev]], [[Naked Ned]], Pterodactyl, The Three Keepers of Trogdor<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' It began as the best selling video computer TV game of all time. Uh- Not really, but still.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a shot of the Peasant's Quest video game.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A simple peasant wearing short pants quested his way into the heart of the nation. Now, for his greatest adventure yet, he will quest... INTO THEATERS!!<br />
<br />
''{The video game Rather Dashing fades into a real-life version of him.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Where's my cottage?<br />
<br />
''{Fade through black to Rather Dashing in his burninated cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' TROGDOR!!!<br />
<br />
''{A few random scenes pass on by, before the Videlectrix logo shows up. It is soon modified to "Videlectrix Films". Cut to a throne room. Rather Dashing is in front of the King of Peasantry.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' We have coexisted with the Burninator in these lands for centuries. ''{Quick clips of a map of Peasantry and peasants being terrorized by a CGI Trogdor pass by.}'' I can't have you marching up there in your short pants upsetting the balance!<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'll upset YOUR balance, my lord!<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' Rather Dashing, you will not sass back at this council!<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' From the sort of people who brought you Trogdor and Litigation Jackson...<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing walks up to Poor Gary.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Easy now Gary, I'm just going to WEAR MASK.<br />
<br />
''{He does so, and Gary whinnies and runs away. Cut to inside a cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''LADY PEASANT:''' Show me you're a real man, Rather Dashing.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a lake.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' THROW... BABY... ahhh!<br />
<br />
''{He throws the baby. Cut to a forest.}''<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV AND DONGOLEV:''' Haldo!<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV:''' I'm Mendelev...<br />
<br />
'''DONGOLEV:''' I'm Dongolev...<br />
<br />
''{We see a shot of Naked Ned peering out from behind a tree.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Rather Dashing? More like Rather Homely!<br />
<br />
''{We see Rather Dashing eating a meatball sub. Cut back to the Archery. Mendelev is helping him train.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR''': A Trog-venture for the whole Trog-Family!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the outside of the Inn. Rather Dashing runs out screaming, with the pot of grease over his head. He hits the side of the Inn, and falls down. Cut to the Jhonka, who seems to just be a human beating the ground. Cut to the archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'm just SO mad at Trogdor...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Access to Trogdor is strictly for peasants!<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing frowns. Cut back to Archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' He just goes around burning things and doesn't even care!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't smell like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the Kerrek, jumping around. Rather Dashing is next to him, battling him, kills him, and gets his belt. Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't dress like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Rather Dashing battling the Jhonka. Rather Dashing puts on the peasant clothes.}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave Entrance}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' And you certainly aren't ON FIRE like a peasant! ''{his helmet lid slams shut as he says "peasant"}'' <br />
<br />
''{Cut to the rocky top of Trogdor's Cave. An on-fire Rather Dashing is climbing it. As Rather Dashing maintains grip on top, a pterodactyl flies by.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest for adventure! A quest for revenge!<br />
<br />
''{Trogdor screams and breathes his horrible fire. The Three Guards, who suddenly appear, wave their hands. Cut to the very top of the cave. It's midnight.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest... for a peasant! Peasant's Quest!<br />
<br />
''{The Peasant's Quest logo appears. Cut to film creation credits. Cut to the King's Castle.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' And the Trogdor comes... in the night.<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Not tonight he doesn't... come... in the night... Trogdor.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor. He breathes fire. Cut to the Peasant's Quest Logo.}''<br />
<br />
==Fun Facts==<br />
[[Image:pq_trailer_end_credits.png|thumb|right|Ending Credits]]<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*This was labeled as "Super Bowl halftime!!" on the main page, because The Brothers Chaps put this trailer up at halftime of the [[Wikipedia:Super Bowl XXXIX|2005 Super Bowl]].<br />
*These are the single largest Flash files on the entire site, with the 2.8 MB "jhonka" trailer being over one and a half times larger than the runner-up, [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]].<br />
*When this trailer was first put up at halftime, the size and popularity of the file apparently overloaded TBC's server. Because of this, the original 13.4 MB file was removed mid-Monday morning and was temporarily replaced with a closeup of Rather Dashing and a note saying that he would be back. By late morning, that was replaced with a screen enabling you to choose which file size you wanted to download: "Jhonka" (2.6 MB), "Kerrek" (5.4 MB), or "Trogdor" (10.3 MB).<br />
*The loading screen used to read "loading a fairly big deal", but it now says "rather loading", refering to Rather Dashing.<br />
*The ending credits read: <br />
<pre> Videlectrix Films<br />
in relative association with<br />
Thorax Legitimate present<br />
<br />
"Peasant's Quest: The Movie:<br />
The Dashing Adventures of Rather Dashing<br />
Or Trogdor's Big Movie"<br />
<br />
Matt Chapman Z. Gillespie Lucky Yates<br />
Matt Gribbon Jackie Chapman Rene Delefont<br />
Jonathan Howe Ryan Sterritt Christian Danley<br />
editor Ryan Sterritt cinematographer Ryan Sterritt/Mike Chapman<br />
original score Mike Chapman/Jonathan Howe<br />
pterydactyl wrangler Matt Chapman cartographer R. Craig Zobel<br />
<br />
Directed by Lem Sportsinterviews</pre><br />
*Many of the people listed in the credits are mentioned elsewhere on the site: Ryan Sterritt helped create the [[strongbad_email.exe|Strong Bad Email DVD]]. Jackie Chapman is [[Matt Chapman]]'s wife, [[Craig Zobel]] helps write some of the cartoons and [[Jonathan Howe]] helps with many of the games.<br />
*The word "pterodactyl" is incorrectly spelled "pterydactyl" in the end credits. <br />
*These credits are clickable for some reason (at least in the 13.4 MB & "Trogdor" versions); however, doing so doesn't seem to activate any easter eggs.<br />
*When Rather Dashing is climbing up the mountain, and you see him from the front, the background is that of the Stone Mountain trail to the top. It is a large granite mountain near Atlanta, near where [[The Brothers Chaps]] live.<br />
*We see that Craig Zobel is credited as the "cartographer", which is someone who makes maps.<br />
*When Rather Dashing puts on the mask and and when he throws the baby, he speaks the actual commands from the game, e.g. "throw baby".<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The movie is directed by [[Leomard Sportsinterviews]], well known for his book ''[http://www.homestarrunner.com/amazon.html This Book is Better Than 1st, 2nd and Quite Possibly 3rd Base]'', among other things.<br />
*''[[Litigation Jackson]]'' was the fictional movie mentioned in [[A Decemberween Pageant]].<br />
*Many of the clips in this preview are taken directly from the [[Peasant's Quest]] game, including:<br />
**Scaring [[Poor Gary]], the horse<br />
**Throwing [[The Baby]] in the water<br />
**Talking to the [[Baby Lady]]<br />
**The [[Kerrek]] pounding Rather Dashing into the ground.<br />
**Taking [[Kerrek]]'s belt in the rain<br />
**Mendelev and Dongolev teaching you how to shoot an arrow<br />
**Fighting The [[Jhonka]] (though you don't actually fight him in the game)<br />
**Naked Ned appearing from behind the tree<br />
**Rather Dashing's "Scalding Lake" vacation shirt<br />
**Rather Dashing with the pot stuck over his head<br />
**The guard's explanation of why Rather Dashing cannot see Trogdor<br />
**Climbing the mountain to Trogdor's lair<br />
**Getting pebbles<br />
*When the Three Keepers of Trogdor are waving in the cave (after CG-Trogdor), the reptilian creature flying in the background makes the same noise as [[Mrs. Commanderson]].<br />
*The Peasantry Map includes places such as:<br />
**The Frumpish Mountians (sp)<br />
**The Slightly Dangerous Fields<br />
**That Weird Tree (you know)<br />
**Trogdor's Keep<br />
**Clackum Falls<br />
*The music and ending lines ("And the Trogdor comes in the night!") are taken from Strong Bad's Trogdor song in the email [[dragon]].<br />
*"Thorax Legitimate" is refering to the [[Thorax Corporation]].<br />
*"Video computer TV game" is a possible reference to the easter egg in [[Peasant's Quest Preview]], where the first [[Videlectrix]] programmer says, "I'm supposed to release a video computer game on TV without this graphic!"<br />
<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*"Trogdor's Big Movie" may be a reference to the Winnie the Pooh movie, ''[[Wikipedia:Piglet's Big Movie|Piglet's Big Movie]]''.<br />
*The heading "A Lem Sportsinterviews Joint" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Spike Lee|Spike Lee]]'s movies which are called "A Spike Lee Joint."<br />
*The blue knight's helmet slamming shut when he says something in anger may be a reference to a similar thing happening to the character Dark Helmet in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Spaceballs|Spaceballs]]'' or Sir Bedevere in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Monty Python and the Holy Grail|Monty Python and the Holy Grail]]''.<br />
*The silhouette of Rather Dashing holding up the shining sword is a reference to the logo of ''[[Wikipedia:Legend of Zelda|The Legend of Zelda]].''<br />
*The hands being waved in the air near the end are reminiscent of the Helping Hands from the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Labyrinth (film)|Labyrinth]].''<br />
*The battle between Rather Dashing and Jhonka is reminiscent of Frodo's battle with Gollum at the end of ''[[Wikipedia:The Return of the King (book)|The Return of the King]]''.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.html view Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.swf view the flash file for Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1967 forum thread re: "Movie Trailer"]<br />
<br />
=== Temporary Mirrors ===<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com.nyud.net:8090/filmstyle.html Coral Cache]<br />
*[http://www.hsrforum.com/files/filmstyle.html HSRForum.com Mirror]<br />
*[http://www.jellob.com/filmstyle.html JelloB.com Mirror]<br />
*[http://www.everybodytothelimit.com/mirror/filmstyle.swf EverybodyToTheLimit.com Mirror] (Flash file only)<br />
<br />
[[Category:Peasant's Quest]][[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Kerrek Filmography]][[Category:Trogdor Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Peasant%27s_Quest_Movie_Trailer
Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer
2005-02-08T19:22:25Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Fun Facts */ Why did you change this, I.J.? This format is descriptive, more accurate, and more complete.</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:peasantsquestmovie.jpg|thumb|right|TROGDOR!!!]]<br />
Rather Dashing, Trogdor, and others appear in a real-life film epic.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Rather Dashing]], [[Kerrek]], [[Jhonka]], [[The Red and Blue Knights]], [[Poor Gary]], [[King of Peasantry]], [[Trogdor]], [[Baby Lady]], [[The Baby]], [[Mendelev]], [[Dongolev]], [[Naked Ned]], Pterodactyl, The Three Keepers of Trogdor<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' It began as the best selling video computer TV game of all time. Uh- Not really, but still.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a shot of the Peasant's Quest video game.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A simple peasant wearing short pants quested his way into the heart of the nation. Now, for his greatest adventure yet, he will quest... INTO THEATERS!!<br />
<br />
''{The video game Rather Dashing fades into a real-life version of him.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Where's my cottage?<br />
<br />
''{Fade through black to Rather Dashing in his burninated cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' TROGDOR!!!<br />
<br />
''{A few random scenes pass on by, before the Videlectrix logo shows up. It is soon modified to "Videlectrix Films". Cut to a throne room. Rather Dashing is in front of the King of Peasantry.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' We have coexisted with the Burninator in these lands for centuries. ''{Quick clips of a map of Peasantry and peasants being terrorized by a CGI Trogdor pass by.}'' I can't have you marching up there in your short pants upsetting the balance!<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'll upset YOUR balance, my lord!<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' Rather Dashing, you will not sass back at this council!<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' From the sort of people who brought you Trogdor and Litigation Jackson...<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing walks up to Poor Gary.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Easy now Gary, I'm just going to WEAR MASK.<br />
<br />
''{He does so, and Gary whinnies and runs away. Cut to inside a cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''LADY PEASANT:''' Show me you're a real man, Rather Dashing.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a lake.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' THROW... BABY... ahhh!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a forest.}''<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV AND DONGOLEV:''' Haldo!<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV:''' I'm Mendelev...<br />
<br />
'''DONGOLEV:''' I'm Dongolev...<br />
<br />
''{We see a shot of Naked Ned peering out from behind a tree.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Rather Dashing? More like Rather Homely!<br />
<br />
''{We see Rather Dashing eating a meatball sub. Cut back to the Archery. Mendelev is helping him train.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR''': A Trog-venture for the whole Trog-Family!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the outside of the Inn. Rather Dashing runs out screaming, with the pot of grease over his head. He hits the side of the Inn, and falls down. Cut to the Jhonka, who seems to just be a human beating the ground. Cut to the archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'm just SO mad at Trogdor...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Access to Trogdor is strictly for peasants!<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing frowns. Cut back to Archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' He just goes around burning things and doesn't even care!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't smell like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the Kerrek, jumping around. Rather Dashing is next to him, battling him, kills him, and gets his belt. Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't dress like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Rather Dashing battling the Jhonka. Rather Dashing puts on the peasant clothes.}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave Entrance}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' And you certainly aren't ON FIRE like a peasant! ''{his helmet lid slams shut as he says "peasant"}'' <br />
<br />
''{Cut to the rocky top of Trogdor's Cave. An on-fire Rather Dashing is climbing it. As Rather Dashing maintains grip on top, a pterodactyl flies by.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest for adventure! A quest for revenge!<br />
<br />
''{Trogdor screams and breathes his horrible fire. The Three Guards, who suddenly appear, wave their hands. Cut to the very top of the cave. It's midnight.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest... for a peasant! Peasant's Quest!<br />
<br />
''{The Peasant's Quest logo appears. Cut to film creation credits. Cut to the King's Castle.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' And the Trogdor comes... in the night.<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Not tonight he doesn't... come... in the night... Trogdor.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor. He breathes fire. Cut to the Peasant's Quest Logo.}''<br />
<br />
==Fun Facts==<br />
[[Image:pq_trailer_end_credits.png|thumb|right|Ending Credits]]<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*This was labeled as "Super Bowl halftime!!" on the main page, because The Brothers Chaps put this trailer up at halftime of the [[Wikipedia:Super Bowl XXXIX|2005 Super Bowl]].<br />
*These are the single largest Flash files on the entire site, with the 2.8 MB "jhonka" trailer being over one and a half times larger than the runner-up, [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]].<br />
*When this trailer was first put up at halftime, the size and popularity of the file apparently overloaded TBC's server. Because of this, the original 13.4 MB file was removed mid-Monday morning and was temporarily replaced with a closeup of Rather Dashing and a note saying that he would be back. By late morning, that was replaced with the following introductory screen, which enables you to choose which file size you want to download:<br />
<pre> Peasant's<br />
Quest<br />
<br />
view ye olde trailer:<br />
(chooseth size)<br />
<br />
jhonka (2.6 mb)<br />
kerrek (5.4 mb)<br />
trogdor (10.3 mb)<br />
</pre><br />
*The loading screen used to read "loading a fairly big deal", but it now says "rather loading", refering to Rather Dashing.<br />
*The ending credits read: <br />
<pre> Videlectrix Films<br />
in relative association with<br />
Thorax Legitimate present<br />
<br />
"Peasant's Quest: The Movie:<br />
The Dashing Adventures of Rather Dashing<br />
Or Trogdor's Big Movie"<br />
<br />
Matt Chapman Z. Gillespie Lucky Yates<br />
Matt Gribbon Jackie Chapman Rene Delefont<br />
Jonathan Howe Ryan Sterritt Christian Danley<br />
editor Ryan Sterritt cinematographer Ryan Sterritt/Mike Chapman<br />
original score Mike Chapman/Jonathan Howe<br />
pterydactyl wrangler Matt Chapman cartographer R. Craig Zobel<br />
<br />
Directed by Lem Sportsinterviews</pre><br />
*Many of the people listed in the credits are mentioned elsewhere on the site: Ryan Sterritt helped create the [[strongbad_email.exe|Strong Bad Email DVD]]. Jackie Chapman is [[Matt Chapman]]'s wife, [[Craig Zobel]] helps write some of the cartoons and [[Jonathan Howe]] helps with many of the games.<br />
*The word "pterodactyl" is incorrectly spelled "pterydactyl" in the end credits. <br />
*These credits are clickable for some reason (at least in the 13.4 MB & "Trogdor" versions); however, doing so doesn't seem to activate any easter eggs.<br />
*When Rather Dashing is climbing up the mountain, and you see him from the front, the background is that of the Stone Mountain trail to the top. It is a large granite mountain near Atlanta, near where [[The Brothers Chaps]] live.<br />
*We see that Craig Zobel is credited as the "cartographer", which is someone who makes maps.<br />
*When Rather Dashing puts on the mask and and when he throws the baby, he speaks the actual commands from the game, e.g. "throw baby".<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The movie is directed by [[Leomard Sportsinterviews]], well known for his book ''[http://www.homestarrunner.com/amazon.html This Book is Better Than 1st, 2nd and Quite Possibly 3rd Base]'', among other things.<br />
*''[[Litigation Jackson]]'' was the fictional movie mentioned in [[A Decemberween Pageant]].<br />
*Many of the clips in this preview are taken directly from the [[Peasant's Quest]] game, including:<br />
**Scaring [[Poor Gary]], the horse<br />
**Throwing [[The Baby]] in the water<br />
**Talking to the [[Baby Lady]]<br />
**The [[Kerrek]] pounding Rather Dashing into the ground.<br />
**Taking [[Kerrek]]'s belt in the rain<br />
**Mendelev and Dongolev teaching you how to shoot an arrow<br />
**Fighting The [[Jhonka]] (though you don't actually fight him in the game)<br />
**Naked Ned appearing from behind the tree<br />
**Rather Dashing's vacation shirt<br />
**Rather Dashing with the pot stuck over his head<br />
**The guard's explanation of why Rather Dashing cannot see Trogdor<br />
**Climbing the mountain to Trogdor's lair<br />
**Getting pebbles<br />
*When the Three Keepers of Trogdor are waving in the cave (after CG-Trogdor), the reptilian creature flying in the background makes the same noise as [[Mrs. Commanderson]].<br />
*The Peasantry Map includes places such as:<br />
**The Frumpish Mountians (sp)<br />
**The Slightly Dangerous Fields<br />
**That Weird Tree (you know)<br />
**Trogdor's Keep<br />
*The music and ending lines ("And the Trogdor comes in the night!") are taken from Strong Bad's Trogdor song in the email [[dragon]].<br />
*"Thorax Legitimate" is probably refering to the [[Thorax Corporation]].<br />
*"Video computer TV game" is a possible reference to the easter egg in [[Peasant's Quest Preview]], where the first [[Videlectrix]] programmer says, "I'm supposed to release a video computer game on TV without this graphic!"<br />
<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*"Trogdor's Big Movie" may be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Winnie the Pooh|Winnie the Pooh]] movie, ''[[Wikipedia:Piglet's Big Movie|Piglet's Big Movie]]''.<br />
*The heading "A Lem Sportsinterviews Joint" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Spike Lee|Spike Lee]]'s movies which are called "A Spike Lee Joint."<br />
*The blue knight's helmet slamming shut when he says something in anger may be a reference to a similar thing happening to the character Dark Helmet in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Spaceballs|Spaceballs]]'' or Sir Bedevere in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Monty Python and the Holy Grail|Monty Python and the Holy Grail]]''.<br />
*The silhouette of Rather Dashing holding up the shining sword is a reference to the logo of ''[[Wikipedia:Legend of Zelda|The Legend of Zelda]].''<br />
*The hands being waved in the air near the end are reminiscent of the Helping Hands from the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Labyrinth (film)|Labyrinth]].''<br />
*The battle between Rather Dashing and Jhonka is reminiscent of Frodo's battle with Gollum at the end of ''[[Wikipedia:The Return of the King (book)|The Return of the King]]''.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.html view Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.swf view the flash file for Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1967 forum thread re: "Movie Trailer"]<br />
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68.15.244.8
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Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer
2005-02-08T17:15:14Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Trivia */ medium reword/fix</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:peasantsquestmovie.jpg|thumb|right|TROGDOR!!!]]<br />
Rather Dashing, Trogdor, and others appear in a real-life film epic.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Rather Dashing]], [[Kerrek]], [[Jhonka]], [[The Red and Blue Knights]], [[Poor Gary]], [[King of Peasantry]], [[Trogdor]], [[Baby Lady]], [[The Baby]], [[Mendelev]], [[Dongolev]], [[Naked Ned]], Pterodactyl, The Three Keepers of Trogdor<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' It began as the best selling video computer TV game of all time. Uh- Not really, but still.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a shot of the Peasant's Quest video game.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A simple peasant wearing short pants quested his way into the heart of the nation. Now, for his greatest adventure yet, he will quest... INTO THEATERS!!<br />
<br />
''{The video game Rather Dashing fades into a real-life version of him.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Where's my cottage?<br />
<br />
''{Fade through black to Rather Dashing in his burninated cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' TROGDOR!!!<br />
<br />
''{A few random scenes pass on by, before the Videlectrix logo shows up. It is soon modified to "Videlectrix Films". Cut to a throne room. Rather Dashing is in front of the King of Peasantry.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' We have coexisted with the Burninator in these lands for centuries. ''{Quick clips of a map of Peasantry and peasants being terrorized by a CGI Trogdor pass by.}'' I can't have you marching up there in your short pants upsetting the balance!<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'll upset YOUR balance, my lord!<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' Rather Dashing, you will not sass back at this council!<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' From the sort of people who brought you Trogdor and Litigation Jackson...<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing walks up to Poor Gary.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Easy now Gary, I'm just going to WEAR MASK.<br />
<br />
''{He does so, and Gary whinnies and runs away. Cut to inside a cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''LADY PEASANT:''' Show me you're a real man, Rather Dashing.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a lake.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' THROW... BABY... ahhh!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a forest.}''<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV AND DONGOLEV:''' Haldo!<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV:''' I'm Mendelev...<br />
<br />
'''DONGOLEV:''' I'm Dongolev...<br />
<br />
''{We see a shot of Naked Ned peering out from behind a tree.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Rather Dashing? More like Rather Homely!<br />
<br />
''{We see Rather Dashing eating a meatball sub. Cut back to the Archery. Mendelev is helping him train.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR''': A Trog-venture for the whole Trog-Family!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the outside of the Inn. Rather Dashing runs out screaming, with the pot of grease over his head. He hits the side of the Inn, and falls down. Cut to the Jhonka, who seems to just be a human beating the ground. Cut to the archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'm just SO mad at Trogdor...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Access to Trogdor is strictly for peasants!<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing frowns. Cut back to Archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' He just goes around burning things and doesn't even care!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't smell like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the Kerrek, jumping around. Rather Dashing is next to him, battling him, kills him, and gets his belt. Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't dress like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Rather Dashing battling the Jhonka. Rather Dashing puts on the peasant clothes.}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave Entrance}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' And you certainly aren't ON FIRE like a peasant! ''{his helmet lid slams shut as he says "peasant"}'' <br />
<br />
''{Cut to the rocky top of Trogdor's Cave. An on-fire Rather Dashing is climbing it. As Rather Dashing maintains grip on top, a pterodactyl flies by.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest for adventure! A quest for revenge!<br />
<br />
''{Trogdor screams and breathes his horrible fire. The Three Guards, who suddenly appear, wave their hands. Cut to the very top of the cave. It's midnight.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest... for a peasant! Peasant's Quest!<br />
<br />
''{The Peasant's Quest logo appears. Cut to film creation credits. Cut to the King's Castle.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' And the Trogdor comes... in the night.<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Not tonight he doesn't... come... in the night... Trogdor.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor. He breathes fire. Cut to the Peasant's Quest Logo.}''<br />
<br />
==Fun Facts==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*This was labeled as "Super Bowl halftime!!" on the main page, because The Brothers Chaps put this trailer up at halftime of the [[Wikipedia:Super Bowl XXXIX|2005 Super Bowl]].<br />
*These are the single largest Flash files on the entire site, with the 2.8 MB "jhonka" trailer being over one and a half times larger than the runner-up, [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]].<br />
*When this trailer was first put up at halftime, the size and popularity of the file apparently overloaded TBC's server. Because of this, the original 13.4 MB file was removed mid-Monday morning and was temporarily replaced with a closeup of Rather Dashing and a note saying that he would be back. By late morning, that was replaced with a screen enabling you to choose which file size you wanted to download:<br />
<pre><br />
Peasant's<br />
Quest<br />
<br />
view ye olde trailer:<br />
(chooseth size)<br />
<br />
jhonka (2.6 mb)<br />
kerrek (5.4 mb)<br />
trogdor (10.3 mb)<br />
</pre><br />
[[Image:pq_trailer_end_credits.png|thumb|right|Ending Credits]]<br />
*The loading screen used to read "loading a fairly big deal", but it now says "rather loading", refering to Rather Dashing.<br />
*The ending credits read: <br />
<pre> Videlectrix Films<br />
in relative association with<br />
Thorax Legitimate present<br />
<br />
"Peasant's Quest: The Movie:<br />
The Dashing Adventures of Rather Dashing<br />
Or Trogdor's Big Movie"<br />
<br />
Matt Chapman Z. Gillespie Lucky Yates<br />
Matt Gribbon Jackie Chapman Rene Delefont<br />
Jonathan Howe Ryan Sterritt Christian Danley<br />
editor Ryan Sterritt cinematographer Ryan Sterritt/Mike Chapman<br />
original score Mike Chapman/Jonathan Howe<br />
pterydactyl wrangler Matt Chapman cartographer R. Craig Zobel<br />
<br />
Directed by Lem Sportsinterviews</pre><br />
*Many of the people listed in the credits are mentioned elsewhere on the site- Ryan Sterritt helped create the [[strongbad_email.exe|Strong Bad Email DVD]]. Jackie Chapman is [[Matt Chapman]]'s wife, [[Craig Zobel]] helps write some of the cartoons and [[Jonathan Howe]] helps with some of the games.<br />
*The word "pterodactyl" is incorrectly spelled "pterydactyl" in the end credits. <br />
*These credits are clickable for some reason (at least in the 13.4 MB & "Trogdor" versions); however, doing so doesn't seem to activate any easter eggs.<br />
*When Rather Dashing is climbing up the mountain, and you see him from the front, the background is that of the Stone Mountain trail to the top. It is a large granite mountain near Atlanta, near where [[The Brothers Chaps]] live.<br />
*We see that Craig Zobel is credited as the "cartographer", which is someone who makes maps.<br />
*When Rather Dashing puts on the mask, and when he throws the baby, he speaks just like the commands in the actual game, i.e. you type in 'throw baby' in the game.<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The movie is directed by [[Leomard Sportsinterviews]], well known for his book ''[http://www.homestarrunner.com/amazon.html This Book is Better Than 1st, 2nd and Quite Possibly 3rd Base]'', among other things.<br />
*The battle between [[Rather Dashing]] and [[Jhonka]] is reminiscent of Frodo’s battle with Gollum at the end of Lord of the Rings. Adding to the suspicion that [[Jhonka]] is based on Gollum. <br />
*''[[Litigation Jackson]]'' was the fictional movie mentioned in [[A Decemberween Pageant]].<br />
*Many of the clips in this preview are taken directly from the [[Peasant's Quest]] game, including:<br />
**Scaring [[Poor Gary]], the horse<br />
**Throwing [[The Baby]] in the water<br />
**Talking to the [[Baby Lady]]<br />
**The [[Kerrek]] pounding Rather Dashing into the ground.<br />
**Taking [[Kerrek]]'s belt in the rain<br />
**Mendelev and Dongolev teaching you how to shoot an arrow<br />
**Fighting The [[Jhonka]] (though you don't actually fight him in the game)<br />
**Naked Ned appearing from behind the tree<br />
**Rather Dashing's vacation shirt<br />
**Rather Dashing with the pot stuck over his head<br />
**The guard's explanation of why Rather Dashing cannot see Trogdor<br />
**Climbing the mountain to Trogdor's lair<br />
**Getting pebbles<br />
*When the Three Keepers of Trogdor are waving in the cave (after CG-Trogdor), the reptilian creature flying in the background makes the same noise as [[Mrs. Commanderson]].<br />
*The Peasantry Map includes places such as:<br />
**The Frumpish Mountians (sp)<br />
**The Slightly Dangerous Fields<br />
**That Weird Tree (you know)<br />
**Trogdor's Keep<br />
*The music and ending lines ("And the Trogdor comes in the night!") are taken from Strong Bad's Trogdor song in the email [[dragon]].<br />
*"Thorax Legitimate" is probably refering to the [[Thorax Corporation]].<br />
*"Video computer TV game" is a possible reference to the easter egg in [[Peasant's Quest Preview]], where the first [[Videlectrix]] programmer says "I'M SUPPOSED TO RELEASE A VIDEO COMPUTER GAME ON TV WITHOUT THIS GRAPHIC!"<br />
<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*"Trogdor's Big Movie" may be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Winnie the Pooh|Winnie the Pooh]] movie, ''[[Wikipedia:Piglet's Big Movie|Piglet's Big Movie]]''.<br />
*The heading "A Lem Sportsinterviews Joint" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Spike Lee|Spike Lee]]'s movies which are called "A Spike Lee Joint."<br />
*The blue knight's helmet slamming shut when he says something in anger may be a reference to a similar thing happening to the character Dark Helmet in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Spaceballs|Spaceballs]]'' or Sir Bedevere in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Monty Python and the Holy Grail|Monty Python and the Holy Grail]]''.<br />
*The silhouette of Rather Dashing holding up the shining sword is a reference to the logo of ''[[Wikipedia:Legend of Zelda|The Legend of Zelda]].''<br />
*The hands being waved in the air near the end are reminiscent of the Helping Hands from the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Labyrinth (film)|Labyrinth]].''<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.html view Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.swf view the flash file for Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1967 forum thread re: "Movie Trailer"]<br />
<br />
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68.15.244.8
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Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer
2005-02-07T21:59:56Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Trivia */ "ever" should be "even" (?)</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:peasantsquestmovie.jpg|thumb|right|TROGDOR!!!]]<br />
Rather Dashing, Trogdor, and others appear in a real-life film epic.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Rather Dashing]], [[Kerrek]], [[Jhonka]], [[The Red and Blue Knights]], [[Poor Gary]], [[King of Peasantry]], [[Trogdor]], [[Baby Lady]], [[The Baby]], [[Mendelev]], [[Dongolev]], [[Naked Ned]], Pterodactyl, The Three Keepers of Trogdor<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' It began as the best selling video computer TV game of all time. Not really. But still! <br />
<br />
''{Cut to a shot of the Peasant's Quest video game.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A simple peasant wearing short pants quested his way into the heart of the nation. Now, for his greatest adventure yet, he will quest... INTO THEATERS!!<br />
<br />
''{The video game Rather Dashing fades into a real-life version of him.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Where's my cottage?<br />
<br />
''{Fade through black to Rather Dashing in his burninated cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' TROGDOR!!!<br />
<br />
''{A few random scenes pass on by, before the Videlectrix logo shows up. It is soon modified to "Videlectrix Films". Cut to a throne room. Rather Dashing is in front of the King of Peasantry.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' We have coexisted with the Burninator in these lands for centuries. ''{Quick clips of a map of Peasantry and peasants being terrorized by Trogdor pass by.}'' I can't have you marching up there in your short pants upsetting the balance!<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'll upset YOUR balance, my lord!<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' Rather Dashing, you will not sass back at this council!<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' From the sort of people who brought you Trogdor and Litigation Jackson...<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing walks up to Poor Gary.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Easy now Gary, I'm just going to WEAR MASK.<br />
<br />
''{He does so, and Gary whinnies and runs away. Cut to inside a cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''LADY PEASANT:''' Show me you're a real man, Rather Dashing.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a lake.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' THROW... BABY... ahhh!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a forest.}''<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV AND DONGOLEV:''' Haldo!<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV:''' I'm Mendelev...<br />
<br />
'''DONGOLEV:''' I'm Dongolev...<br />
<br />
''{We see a shot of Naked Ned peering out from behind a tree.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Rather Dashing? More like Rather Homely!<br />
<br />
''{We see Rather Dashing eating a meatball sub. Cut back to the Archery. Mendelev is helping him train.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR''': A Trog-venture for the whole Trog-Family!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the outside of the Inn. Rather Dashing runs out screaming, with the pot of grease over his head. He hits the side of the Inn, and falls down. Cut to the Jhonka, who seems to just be a human beating the ground. Cut to the archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'm just SO mad at Trogdor...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Access to Trogdor is strictly for peasants!<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing frowns. Cut back to Archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' He just goes around burning things and doesn't even care!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't smell like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the Kerrek, jumping around. Rather Dashing is next to him, battling him, kills him, and gets his belt. Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't dress like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Rather Dashing battling the Jhonka. Rather Dashing puts on the peasant clothes.}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave Entrance}..<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' And you certainly aren't ON FIRE ''{his helmet lid slams shut}'' like a peasant!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the rocky top of Trogdor's Cave. An on-fire Rather Dashing is climbing it. As Rather Dashing maintains grip on top, a pterodactyl flies by.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest for adventure! A quest for revenge!<br />
<br />
''{Trogdor screams and breathes his horrible fire. The Three Guards, who suddenly appear, wave their hands. Cut to the very top of the cave. It's midnight.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest... for a peasant! Peasant's Quest!<br />
<br />
''{The Peasant's Quest logo appears. Cut to film creation credits. Cut to the King's Castle.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' And the Trogdor comes... in the night.<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Not tonight he doesn't... come... in the night... Trogdor.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a 3D-Render of Trogdor. He breathes fire. Cut to the Peasant's Quest Logo.}''<br />
<br />
==Fun Facts==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*This was labeled as "Super Bowl halftime!!" on the main page, because TBC were putting their main update at halftime of the [[Wikipedia:Super Bowl XXXIX|2005 Super Bowl]].<br />
*This is the single largest Flash file currently available on H*R.com, coming in at a whopping 13.4MB. That's nearly eight times larger than the runner-up, [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]].<br />
**By Monday morning (and even during halftime), TBC were apparently having server overloads. Because of this, the single file was removed and a note saying that Rather Dashing would be back was put up. Later, that was replaced with a screen enabling you to choose which file size you wanted to download:<br />
<pre><br />
Peasant's<br />
Quest<br />
<br />
view ye olde trailer:<br />
(chooseth size)<br />
<br />
jhonka (2.6 mb)<br />
kerrek (5.4 mb)<br />
trogdor (10.3 mb)<br />
</pre><br />
*The loading screen used to read "loading a fairly big deal", but it now says "rather loading", refering to Rather Dashing.<br />
[[Image:pq_trailer_end_credits.png|thumb|right|Ending Credits]]<br />
*The ending credits read: <br />
<pre> Videlectrix Films<br />
in relative association with<br />
Thorax Legitimate present<br />
<br />
"Peasant's Quest: The Movie:<br />
The Dashing Adventures of Rather Dashing<br />
Or Trogdor's Big Movie"<br />
<br />
Matt Chapman Z. Gillespie Lucky Yates<br />
Matt Gribbon Jackie Chapman Rene Delefont<br />
Jonathan Howe Ryan Sterritt Christian Danley<br />
editor Ryan Sterritt cinematographer Ryan Sterritt/Mike Chapman<br />
original score Mike Chapman/Jonathan Howe<br />
pterydactyl wrangler Matt Chapman cartographer R. Craig Zobel<br />
<br />
Directed by Lem Sportsinterviews</pre><br />
*The word "pterodactyl" is incorrectly spelled "pterydactyl" in the end credits. <br />
*These credits are clickable for some reason; however, doing so doesn't seem to activate any easter eggs.<br />
*When Rather Dashing is climbing up the mountain, and you see him from the front, the background is that of the Stone Mountain trail to the top. It is a large granite mountain near Atlanta, near where [[The Brothers Chaps]] live.<br />
*We see that Craig Zobel is credited as the "cartographer", which is someone who makes maps.<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The movie is directed by [[Leomard Sportsinterviews]], well known for his book ''[http://www.homestarrunner.com/amazon.html This Book is Better Than 1st, 2nd and Quite Possibly 3rd Base]'', among other things.<br />
*''[[Litigation Jackson]]'' was the fictional movie mentioned in [[A Decemberween Pageant]].<br />
*Many of the clips in this preview are taken directly from the [[Peasant's Quest]] game, including:<br />
**Scaring [[Poor Gary]], the horse<br />
**Throwing [[The Baby]] in the water<br />
**Talking to the [[Baby Lady]]<br />
**Taking [[Kerrek]]'s belt in the rain<br />
**Mendelev and Dongolev teaching you how to shoot an arrow<br />
**Fighting The Jhonka (though you don't actually fight him in the game)<br />
**Naked Ned appearing from behind the tree<br />
**Rather Dashing's vacation shirt<br />
**Rather Dashing with the pot stuck over his head<br />
**The guard's explanation of why Rather Dashing cannot see Trogdor<br />
**Climbing the mountain to Trogdor's lair<br />
*When the three hooded men are waving in the cave (after CG-Trogdor), the reptilian creature flying in the background makes the same noise as [[Mrs. Commanderson]].<br />
*The Peasantry Map includes places such as:<br />
**The Frumpish Mountains<br />
**The Slightly Dangerous Fields<br />
**That Weird Tree (you know)<br />
**Trogdors Lair<br />
*The music and ending lines ("And the Trogdor comes in the night!") are taken from Strong Bad's Trogdor song in the email [[dragon]].<br />
<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*"Trogdor's Big Movie" may be a reference to the Winnie the Pooh movie, "Piglet's Big Movie".<br />
*The heading "A Lem Sportsinterviews Joint" is a reference to Spike Lee's movies which are called "A Spike Lee Joint."<br />
*The trailer's fantasy subject, transitions, and especially music feel partiularly "Lord-of-the-Rings"-ish.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.html view Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.swf view the flash file for Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1967 forum thread re: "Movie Trailer"]<br />
<br />
=== Temporary Mirrors ===<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com.nyud.net:8090/filmstyle.html Coral Cache]<br />
*[http://hsrforum.com/files/filmstyle.html HSRForum.com Mirror]<br />
*[http://www.jellob.com/filmstyle.html JelloB.com Mirror]<br />
*[http://www.everybodytothelimit.com/mirror/filmstyle.swf EverybodyToTheLimit.com Mirror] (Flash file only)<br />
<br />
*southanuk mirror removed because of bandwidth problems<br />
[[Category:Peasant's Quest]][[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Kerrek Filmography]][[Category:Trogdor Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Peasant%27s_Quest_Movie_Trailer
Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer
2005-02-07T19:34:17Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Fun Facts */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:peasantsquestmovie.jpg|thumb|right|TROGDOR!!!]]<br />
Rather Dashing, Trogdor, and others appear in a real-life film epic.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Rather Dashing]], [[Kerrek]], [[Jhonka]], [[The Red and Blue Knights]], [[Poor Gary]], [[King of Peasantry]], [[Trogdor]], [[Baby Lady]], [[The Baby]], [[Mendelev]], [[Dongolev]], [[Naked Ned]], Pterodactyl, The Three Keepers of Trogdor<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' It began as the best selling video computer TV game of all time. Not really. But still! <br />
<br />
''{Cut to a shot of the Peasant's Quest video game.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A simple peasant wearing short pants quested his way into the heart of the nation. Now, for his greatest adventure yet, he will quest... INTO THEATERS!!<br />
<br />
''{The video game Rather Dashing fades into a real-life version of him.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Where's my cottage?<br />
<br />
''{Fade through black to Rather Dashing in his burninated cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' TROGDOR!!!<br />
<br />
''{A few random scenes pass on by, before the Videlectrix logo shows up. It is soon modified to "Videlectrix Films". Cut to a throne room. Rather Dashing is in front of the King of Peasantry.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' We have coexisted with the Burninator in these lands for centuries. ''{Quick clips of a map of Peasantry and peasants being terrorized by Trogdor pass by.}'' I can't have you marching up there in your short pants upsetting the balance!<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'll upset YOUR balance, my lord!<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' Rather Dashing, you will not sass back at this council!<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' From the sort of people who brought you Trogdor and Litigation Jackson...<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing walks up to Poor Gary.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Easy now Gary, I'm just going to WEAR MASK.<br />
<br />
''{He does so, and Gary whinnies and runs away. Cut to inside a cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''LADY PEASANT:''' Show me you're a real man, Rather Dashing.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a lake.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' THROW... BABY... ahhh!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a forest.}''<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV AND DONGOLEV:''' Haldo!<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV:''' I'm Mendelev...<br />
<br />
'''DONGOLEV:''' I'm Dongolev...<br />
<br />
''{We see a shot of Naked Ned peering out from behind a tree.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Rather Dashing? More like Rather Homely!<br />
<br />
''{We see Rather Dashing eating a meatball sub. Cut back to the Archery. Mendelev is helping him train.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR''': A Trog-venture for the whole Trog-Family!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the outside of the Inn. Rather Dashing runs out screaming, with the pot of grease over his head. He hits the side of the Inn, and falls down. Cut to the Jhonka, who seems to just be a human beating the ground. Cut to the archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'm just SO mad at Trogdor...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Access to Trogdor is strictly for peasants!<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing frowns. Cut back to Archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' He just goes around burning things and doesn't even care!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't smell like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the Kerrek, jumping around. Rather Dashing is next to him, battling him, kills him, and gets his belt. Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't dress like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Rather Dashing battling the Jhonka. Rather Dashing puts on the peasant clothes.}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave Entrance}..<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' And you certainly aren't ON FIRE ''{his helmet lid slams shut}'' like a peasant!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the rocky top of Trogdor's Cave. An on-fire Rather Dashing is climbing it. As Rather Dashing maintains grip on top, Trogdor flies in.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest for adventure! A quest for revenge!<br />
<br />
''{Trogdor screams and breathes his horrible fire. The Three Guards, who suddenly appear, wave their hands. Cut to the very top of the cave. It's midnight.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest... for a peasant! Peasant's Quest!<br />
<br />
''{The Peasant's Quest logo appears. Cut to film creation credits. Cut to the King's Castle.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' And the Trogdor comes... in the night.<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Not tonight he doesn't... come... in the night... Trogdor.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a 3D-Render of Trogdor. He breathes fire. Cut to the Peasant's Quest Logo.}''<br />
<br />
==Fun Facts==<br />
[[Image:pq_trailer_end_credits.png|thumb|right|Ending Credits]]<br />
===Trivia===<br />
<br />
*This was labeled as "Super Bowl halftime!!" on the main page, because TBC were putting their main update at halftime of the 2005 Super Bowl.<br />
*This is the single largest Flash file currently available on H*R.com, coming in at a whopping 13.4MB. That's nearly eight times larger than the runner-up, [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]].<br />
**By Monday morning, TBC were apparently having server overloads. The single file was removed and a note saying that Rather Dashing would be back was put up. Later, that was replaced with a screen enabling you to choose which file size you wanted to download:<br />
<pre><br />
Peasant's<br />
Quest<br />
<br />
view ye olde trailer:<br />
(chooseth size)<br />
<br />
jhonka (2.6 mb)<br />
kerrek (5.4 mb)<br />
trogdor (10.3 mb)<br />
</pre><br />
*The ending credits read: <br />
<pre> Videlectrix Films<br />
in relative association with<br />
Thorax Legitimate present<br />
<br />
"Peasant's Quest: The Movie:<br />
The Dashing Adventures of Rather Dashing<br />
Or Trogdor's Big Movie"<br />
<br />
Matt Chapman Z. Gillespie Lucky Yates<br />
Matt Gribbon Jackie Chapman Rene Delefont<br />
Jonathan Howe Ryan Sterritt Christian Danley<br />
editor Ryan Sterritt cinematographer Ryan Sterritt/Mike Chapman<br />
original score Mike Chapman/Jonathan Howe<br />
pterydactyl wrangler Matt Chapman cartographer R. Craig Zobel<br />
<br />
Directed by Lem Sportsinterviews</pre><br />
*The word "pterodactyl" is incorrectly spelled "pterydactyl" in the end credits. <br />
*These credits are clickable for some reason; however, doing so doesn't seem to activate any easter eggs.<br />
*When Rather Dashing is climbing up the mountain, and you see him from the front, the background is that of the Stone Mountain trail to the top. It is a large granite mountain near Atlanta, near where [[The Brothers Chaps]] live.<br />
*We see that Craig Zobel is credited as the "cartographer", which is someone who makes maps.<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The movie is directed by [[Leomard Sportsinterviews]], well known for his book ''[http://www.homestarrunner.com/amazon.html This Book is Better Than 1st, 2nd and Quite Possibly 3rd Base]'', among other things.<br />
*''[[Litigation Jackson]]'' was the fictional movie mentioned in [[A Decemberween Pageant]].<br />
*Many of the clips in this preview are taken directly from the [[Peasant's Quest]] game, including:<br />
**Scaring [[Poor Gary]], the horse<br />
**Throwing [[The Baby]] in the water<br />
**Talking to the [[Baby Lady]]<br />
**Taking [[Kerrek]]'s belt in the rain<br />
**Mendelev and Dongolev teaching you how to shoot an arrow<br />
**Fighting The Jhonka (though you don't actually fight him in the game)<br />
**Naked Ned appearing from behind the tree<br />
**Rather Dashing's vacation shirt<br />
**Rather Dashing with the pot stuck over his head<br />
**Eating the Meatball Sub (although I don't recall if it was edible in the game)<br />
*When the three hooded men are waving in the cave (after CG-Trogdor), the reptilian creature flying in the background makes the same noise as [[Mrs. Commanderson]].<br />
*The Peasantry Map includes places such as:<br />
**The Frumpish Mountains<br />
**The Slightly Dangerous Fields<br />
**That Weird Tree (you know)<br />
**Trogdors Lair<br />
<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*"Trogdor's Big Movie" may be a reference to the Winnie the Pooh movie, "Piglet's Big Movie".<br />
*The heading "A Lem Sportsinterviews Joint" is a reference to Spike Lee's movies which are called "A Spike Lee Joint."<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.html view Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.swf view the flash file for Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1967 forum thread re: "Movie Trailer"]<br />
<br />
=== Temporary Mirrors ===<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com.nyud.net:8090/filmstyle.html Coral Cache]<br />
*[http://hsrforum.com/files/filmstyle.html HSRForum.com Mirror]<br />
*[http://www.jellob.com/filmstyle.html JelloB.com Mirror]<br />
*[http://www.everybodytothelimit.com/mirror/filmstyle.swf EverybodyToTheLimit.com Mirror] (Flash file only)<br />
<br />
*[http://www.southanuk.co.uk/filmstyle.html Southanuk mirror]<br />
[[Category:Peasant's Quest]][[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Kerrek Filmography]][[Category:Trogdor Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Peasant%27s_Quest_Movie_Trailer
Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer
2005-02-07T19:31:31Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Fun Facts */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:peasantsquestmovie.jpg|thumb|right|TROGDOR!!!]]<br />
Rather Dashing, Trogdor, and others appear in a real-life film epic.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Rather Dashing]], [[Kerrek]], [[Jhonka]], [[The Red and Blue Knights]], [[Poor Gary]], [[King of Peasantry]], [[Trogdor]], [[Baby Lady]], [[The Baby]], [[Mendelev]], [[Dongolev]], [[Naked Ned]], Pterodactyl, The Three Keepers of Trogdor<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' It began as the best selling video computer TV game of all time. Not really. But still! <br />
<br />
''{Cut to a shot of the Peasant's Quest video game.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A simple peasant wearing short pants quested his way into the heart of the nation. Now, for his greatest adventure yet, he will quest... INTO THEATERS!!<br />
<br />
''{The video game Rather Dashing fades into a real-life version of him.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Where's my cottage?<br />
<br />
''{Fade through black to Rather Dashing in his burninated cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' TROGDOR!!!<br />
<br />
''{A few random scenes pass on by, before the Videlectrix logo shows up. It is soon modified to "Videlectrix Films". Cut to a throne room. Rather Dashing is in front of the King of Peasantry.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' We have coexisted with the Burninator in these lands for centuries. ''{Quick clips of a map of Peasantry and peasants being terrorized by Trogdor pass by.}'' I can't have you marching up there in your short pants upsetting the balance!<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'll upset YOUR balance, my lord!<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' Rather Dashing, you will not sass back at this council!<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' From the sort of people who brought you Trogdor and Litigation Jackson...<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing walks up to Poor Gary.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Easy now Gary, I'm just going to WEAR MASK.<br />
<br />
''{He does so, and Gary whinnies and runs away. Cut to inside a cottage.}''<br />
<br />
'''LADY PEASANT:''' Show me you're a real man, Rather Dashing.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a lake.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' THROW... BABY... ahhh!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a forest.}''<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV AND DONGOLEV:''' Haldo!<br />
<br />
'''MENDELEV:''' I'm Mendelev...<br />
<br />
'''DONGOLEV:''' I'm Dongolev...<br />
<br />
''{We see a shot of Naked Ned peering out from behind a tree.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Rather Dashing? More like Rather Homely!<br />
<br />
''{We see Rather Dashing eating a meatball sub. Cut back to the Archery. Mendelev is helping him train.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR''': A Trog-venture for the whole Trog-Family!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the outside of the Inn. Rather Dashing runs out screaming, with the pot of grease over his head. He hits the side of the Inn, and falls down. Cut to the Jhonka, who seems to just be a human beating the ground. Cut to the archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'm just SO mad at Trogdor...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Access to Trogdor is strictly for peasants!<br />
<br />
''{Rather Dashing frowns. Cut back to Archery.}''<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' He just goes around burning things and doesn't even care!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't smell like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the Kerrek, jumping around. Rather Dashing is next to him, battling him, kills him, and gets his belt. Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't dress like a peasant...<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Rather Dashing battling the Jhonka. Rather Dashing puts on the peasant clothes.}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Trogdor Cave Entrance}..<br />
<br />
'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' And you certainly aren't ON FIRE ''{his helmet lid slams shut}'' like a peasant!<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the rocky top of Trogdor's Cave. An on-fire Rather Dashing is climbing it. As Rather Dashing maintains grip on top, Trogdor flies in.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest for adventure! A quest for revenge!<br />
<br />
''{Trogdor screams and breathes his horrible fire. The Three Guards, who suddenly appear, wave their hands. Cut to the very top of the cave. It's midnight.}''<br />
<br />
'''NARRATOR:''' A quest... for a peasant! Peasant's Quest!<br />
<br />
''{The Peasant's Quest logo appears. Cut to film creation credits. Cut to the King's Castle.}''<br />
<br />
'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' And the Trogdor comes... in the night.<br />
<br />
'''RATHER DASHING:''' Not tonight he doesn't... come... in the night... Trogdor.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a 3D-Render of Trogdor. He breathes fire. Cut to the Peasant's Quest Logo.}''<br />
<br />
==Fun Facts==<br />
[[Image:pq_trailer_end_credits.png|thumb|right|Ending Credits]]<br />
===Trivia===<br />
<br />
*This was labeled as "Super Bowl halftime!!" on the main page, because TBC were putting their main update at halftime of the 2005 Super Bowl.<br />
*This is the single largest Flash file currently available on H*R.com, coming in at a whopping 13.4MB. That's nearly eight times larger than the runner-up, [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]].<br />
**By Monday morning, TBC were apparently having server overloads. The single file was removed and a note saying that Rather Dashing would be back was put up. Later, that was replaced with a screen enabling you to choose which file size you wanted to download:<br />
***jhonka (2.6 mb)<br />
***kerrek (5.4 mb)<br />
***trogdor (10.3 mb)<br />
*The ending credits read: <br />
<pre> Videlectrix Films<br />
in relative association with<br />
Thorax Legitimate present<br />
<br />
"Peasant's Quest: The Movie:<br />
The Dashing Adventures of Rather Dashing<br />
Or Trogdor's Big Movie"<br />
<br />
Matt Chapman Z. Gillespie Lucky Yates<br />
Matt Gribbon Jackie Chapman Rene Delefont<br />
Jonathan Howe Ryan Sterritt Christian Danley<br />
editor Ryan Sterritt cinematographer Ryan Sterritt/Mike Chapman<br />
original score Mike Chapman/Jonathan Howe<br />
pterydactyl wrangler Matt Chapman cartographer R. Craig Zobel<br />
<br />
Directed by Lem Sportsinterviews</pre><br />
*The word "pterodactyl" is incorrectly spelled "pterydactyl" in the end credits. <br />
*These credits are clickable for some reason; however, doing so doesn't seem to activate any easter eggs.<br />
*When Rather Dashing is climbing up the mountain, and you see him from the front, the background is that of the Stone Mountain trail to the top. It is a large granite mountain near Atlanta, near where [[The Brothers Chaps]] live.<br />
*We see that Craig Zobel is credited as the "cartographer", which is someone who makes maps.<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The movie is directed by [[Leomard Sportsinterviews]], well known for his book ''[http://www.homestarrunner.com/amazon.html This Book is Better Than 1st, 2nd and Quite Possibly 3rd Base]'', among other things.<br />
*''[[Litigation Jackson]]'' was the fictional movie mentioned in [[A Decemberween Pageant]].<br />
*Many of the clips in this preview are taken directly from the [[Peasant's Quest]] game, including:<br />
**Scaring [[Poor Gary]], the horse<br />
**Throwing [[The Baby]] in the water<br />
**Talking to the [[Baby Lady]]<br />
**Taking [[Kerrek]]'s belt in the rain<br />
**Mendelev and Dongolev teaching you how to shoot an arrow<br />
**Fighting The Jhonka (though you don't actually fight him in the game)<br />
**Naked Ned appearing from behind the tree<br />
**Rather Dashing's vacation shirt<br />
**Rather Dashing with the pot stuck over his head<br />
**Eating the Meatball Sub (although I don't recall if it was edible in the game)<br />
*When the three hooded men are waving in the cave (after CG-Trogdor), the reptilian creature flying in the background makes the same noise as [[Mrs. Commanderson]].<br />
*The Peasantry Map includes places such as:<br />
**The Frumpish Mountains<br />
**The Slightly Dangerous Fields<br />
**That Weird Tree (you know)<br />
**Trogdors Lair<br />
<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*"Trogdor's Big Movie" may be a reference to the Winnie the Pooh movie, "Piglet's Big Movie".<br />
*The heading "A Lem Sportsinterviews Joint" is a reference to Spike Lee's movies which are called "A Spike Lee Joint."<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.html view Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.swf view the flash file for Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]<br />
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1967 forum thread re: "Movie Trailer"]<br />
<br />
=== Temporary Mirrors ===<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com.nyud.net:8090/filmstyle.html Coral Cache]<br />
*[http://hsrforum.com/files/filmstyle.html HSRForum.com Mirror]<br />
*[http://www.jellob.com/filmstyle.html JelloB.com Mirror]<br />
*[http://www.everybodytothelimit.com/mirror/filmstyle.swf EverybodyToTheLimit.com Mirror] (Flash file only)<br />
<br />
*[http://www.southanuk.co.uk/filmstyle.html Southanuk mirror]<br />
[[Category:Peasant's Quest]][[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Kerrek Filmography]][[Category:Trogdor Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/First_Time_Here%3F
First Time Here?
2005-02-05T04:33:20Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Fun Facts */ ironically, "typo" was misspelled</p>
<hr />
<div>[[image:firsttimehere.png|thumb|This is a website!]]<br />
<br />
The welcome speech for first-time viewers of the Homestar Runner website. Directed by the fictional Cherry Greg.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Cherry Greg]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]]<br />
<br />
'''Page title:''' HomestarRunner.com Welcome Speech<br />
__FORCETOC__<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<!--Note: There are at least two different off-camera voices, one of which can be assumed is Cherry Greg, but it is unclear, so they are both simply labeled "OFF-CAMERA". Please fix this if you've got a good ear.)--><br />
<br />
''{Homestar Runner stands in a field. We see him though a video camera with a blinking red "Record" light.}''<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' Homestarrunner dot com welcome speech, Take 1. Action!<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, hello! ''{In bold are the words that appear on the screen as Homestar says them.}'' '''Welcome to Homestarrunner.net'''.<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' It's "dot com".<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, right. Homestarrunner dot net. '''"Its'' dot com!"'''<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' Cut!<br />
<br />
''{bleep}''<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' Homestarrunner dot com welcome speech, take 2.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, hello! I'm Homestar Runner. ... ''{whispers}'' Line?<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' ''{whispers}'' Welcome.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' '''Welcome'''! ... ''{whispers}'' Line?<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' ''{whispers}'' To.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' '''To'''! ... ''{whispers}'' Line?<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' ''{whispers}'' Homestarrunner dot com.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' '''Something.com'''!<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' Cut!<br />
<br />
''{bleep}''<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' Take 6.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' '''Welcome aboard the USS Homestarrunner.com'''. I am your captain, Homestar Runner--<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' Cut!<br />
<br />
''{bleep}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' '''Bienvenidos a Homestarrunner.com'''. ¿Conoces a Miguel? ¡Sí! Somos buenos amigos--<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' ''{annoyed}'' English!<br />
<br />
''{bleep}''<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' Take 13.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, this time I'm totally gonna get it. Seriously you guys.<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' ... Go ahead, we're rolling.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh! I am Homestar, and '''This is A Website'''!<br />
<br />
''{bleep}''<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' Take 25.<br />
<br />
''{Homestar Runner is revealed wearing a ridiculous costume (see the Fun Facts).}''<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' Cut! No.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What??<br />
<br />
''{bleep}''<br />
<br />
'''OFF-CAMERA:''' Take 126.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, hello! I'm Homestar Runner! ... Isn't that great?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting from off-camera}'' Ahh, I can't take it anymore!<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad runs on camera and punches Homestar Runner out of the frame.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sarcastic, imitating Homestar}'' Hello, and welcome to I'm a Big Moron Who Can't Remember His Lines Dot Com! ''{not sarcastic}'' No, seriously. I'm Strong Bad, and you don't know it yet, but I'm the reason you're here.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{peeking in from off-camera}'' It's true.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Check me out! No, seriously, check me out. Sooooo... take a look around. I strongly recommend checking out the Strong Bad E-Mails. And this cartoon's not bad. And this game's pretty fun. I mean, I played it.<br />
<br />
''{Links to [[Strong Bad Email]], [[A Jorb Well Done]], and the [[Homestar Talker]] appear.}''<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
*The Spanish dialog that Homestar Runner says translates to "Welcome to Homestarrunner dot com. Do you know Michael? Yes! We are good friends!" It is the kind of phrase one would see in an introductory Spanish text book.<br />
*Homestar Runner wears a different costume in Take 25 each time you watch, including:<br />
**Nothing (Naked!)<br />
**Witch<br />
**Sailor<br />
**Clown<br />
*By the time they get to take 126, the clapslate states that they are on roll 11. Assuming that they are filming with standard 400-ft, 35mm rolls, which average about ten minutes of footage per roll, by this point they would have been trying to film scene one for nearly two hours. This makes sense because it is take 126, and each take would probably be a minute or less.<br />
*Some Homestar Runner fans actually started a website with the domain name, but this has since reverted back to the domain sponsor.<br />
*The site "[http://www.something.com something.com]" does exist, but the only content as of July 28th, 1995 [http://www.whois.sc/something.com] is the word ''Something''.<br />
*"[http://homestarrunner.net homestarrunner.net]", "[http://www.usshomestarrunner.com usshomestarrunner.com]" and "[http://www.imabigmoronwhocantrememberhislines.com imabigmoronwhocantrememberhislines.com]" have all been real fansites. However, at this time the only active at this time is "[http://www.usshomestarrunner.com usshomestarrunner.com]".<br />
*Strong Bad's line, "You don't know it yet, but I'm the reason you're here," is a reference to the fact that the character of Strong Bad has long been more popular than Homestar Runner himself.<br />
*The line "Its dot com" has a typo in it. "It's" has an apostrophe in it, for it is a contraction of "It is".<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/firsttime.html watch "First Time Here?"]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/firsttime.swf view the flash file for "First Time Here?"]<br />
<br />
[[Category: Toons]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category: Strong Bad Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/superhero_name
superhero name
2005-02-05T03:52:30Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Remarks */ minor misspelling</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:sbemail29.PNG|thumb|Cheap as Free Comics!]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #29'''<br />
<br />
Stiny asks why Strong Bad's name doesn't end in "man."<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Badman]], [[The Cheat]]<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' All these... emails... I don't understand.<br />
<br />
<pre>Dear Strong bad:<br />
<br />
Why is it that your superhero name does not end <br />
in "man" just like Superman, Spiderman. etc, etc...<br />
<br />
Your friend<br />
<br />
Stiny</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Umm... ''{typing}'' I don't think you're in a very good position to be criticizing people's names, STINY!! I mean, what kind of a name is Stiny anyways? It sounds like some supervillain's little sidekick that he's always ordering around you know. ''{stops typing}'' Like, "STINY! GET ME A DANISH!!" ''{An image with Strong Bad drawn as Strong Badman accompanies this}'' or "STINY! WHO SPILLED COFFEE ALL OVER THE PLANS FOR MY DEATH RAY?!" {''Another image of Strong Badman accompanies this}'' Stiny... ''{clears screen, resumes typing}'' Naw, you know what? I'll change my name to Strong Badman if you agree to be my sidekick: Li'l Stiny. And you can wear a little mask and a little cape...<br />
<br />
''{The camera zooms back and we see The Cheat appear wearing a mask covering his eyes and a little cape.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey The Cheat... er, just doing an email.<br />
<br />
'''THE CHEAT:''' Hrinun.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' What? No! Of course you're still my sidekick!<br />
<br />
'''THE CHEAT:''' Uhuynidah.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, that cape looks great on you. Look, I was speaking hypothetically.<br />
<br />
'''THE CHEAT:''' Uhuysuwituwa!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh come on, don't give me that!<br />
<br />
'''THE CHEAT:''' Ptawoh!!!<br />
<br />
''{The Cheat walks away angrily.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah, The Cheat! <br />
<br />
''{A "Strong Badman" comic book appears on the screen with a picture of Strong Badman drawn on it (see above). On the bottom of the page, there's a blurb that reads "CLICK '''HERE''' TO EMAIL STRONG BAD!!" Click on the text to email him.}''<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*For the first time, [[The Paper]] doesn't come down at the end of this email.<br />
===Remarks===<br />
*Strong Bad's floppies don't have a name.<br />
*Even though Strong Bad says that Strong Badman is a "supervillain," he gets his name on the comic. This is probably due to the fact that when Strong Bad E-mails first started, Strong Bad was still considered the villain of the Homestar universe.<br />
<br />
===Goofs===<br />
*The "No Loafing" sign is in the wrong place.<br />
===Glitches===<br />
*You can still click on the contrast buttons when Strong Bad is talking to The Cheat, but nothing will happen.<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*Unbeknownst to viewers of this email, Stiny is the name of Homestar creator [[Craig Zobel]]'s little brother. <br />
*Cheap as Free Comics has the same logo style as most early 90's Marvel comics, including a character in the top left corner, price and issue number, and Comics Code Authority symbol. The black and white logo at the bottom left closely resembles comics featuring Spiderman.<br />
*"All these... emails... I don't understand.", is a reference to the [http://www.eltonjohn.com/flash_index.asp Elton John] classic "Rocketman" (another "-man" name), as performed by [http://www.williamshatner.com/ William Shatner] at the 1981 Science Fiction Awards (as mentioned in the DVD commentary). One line of the song is, "All this science I don't understand..." The intonation is dead on. Footage of the performance is available on the Net; it's classic Shatner cheesiness.<br />
===Fast Forward===<br />
*Cheap as Free Comics also appears in [[haircut]] with "The Total Adventures of Strong Badman." It seems Strong Bad finally added -man to his superhero persona.<br />
<br />
== DVD Version ==<br />
*The DVD version has a hidden creators' commentary. Just switch your DVD's audio language selection during this email.<br />
<br />
=== Commentary Transcript ===<br />
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])<br />
<br />
'''MATT:''' That's a reference to Shatner performing Rocketman-<br />
<br />
'''MIKE:''' That's true<br />
<br />
'''MATT:''' -at the 1981 Science Fiction...<br />
<br />
'''MIKE:''' Science Fiction Awards, yes.<br />
<br />
'''MATT:''' Video Awards or whatever. Um, so THIS one, it was great. We, um... I remember, we finished this, we worked on it some at my Uncle John's house in Winnemac, Indiana<br />
<br />
'''MIKE:''' Some at grandpa's<br />
<br />
'''MATT:''' And we finished it up<br />
<br />
'''MIKE:''' Aunt Dean's old room. <br />
<br />
'''MATT:''' In Aunt Dean's old room, and there was nothing there. We could wax the floor that day. So it's this room with this old, that old, like, 2 inch thick wallpaper. And, uh, with some pink print.<br />
<br />
'''MIKE:''' Pink flowers, yeah<br />
<br />
'''MATT:''' Yeah. And, just, we brought a TV tray and finished it on this laptop that kept crashing Flash 5. It took us forever to finish it. And, uh, did we, I wonder if you have that picture somewhere, 'cause I remember you took a picture-<br />
<br />
'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I think I do.<br />
<br />
'''MATT:''' -'cause we were going to make it look like, the uh, say this is our office. Just this giant, empty old- old lady's room with me and Mike. The laptop. How about those white circles The Cheat has for eyes?<br />
<br />
'''MIKE:''' Is that the first No Loafing sign?<br />
<br />
'''MATT:''' Uhh, maybe.<br />
<br />
'''MIKE:''' I dunno.<br />
<br />
'''MATT:''' I don't know if processing- was processing around yet?<br />
<br />
'''MIKE:''' Uh, yeah<br />
<br />
'''MATT:''' 'Cause I think that's where it first appeared.<br />
<br />
=== Fun Facts ===<br />
*Matt's talk of processing is a reference to the [[Email Processing Room]] (where, coincidentally, the No Loafing sign does NOT make an appearance)<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail29.html watch "superhero name"]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail29.swf view the flash file for "superhero name"]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]<br />
[[Category:The Cheat Filmography]]<br />
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Old-Timey
Old-Timey
2005-02-05T03:33:25Z
<p>68.15.244.8: One looks and sounds "different," not "differently."</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:parsnips.PNG|thumb|right|200px|Hungry in the 30s]]<br />
'''1936''' (Or sometimes referred as '''Old-Timey''') is the collective name for the "Black and White" era of Homestar cartoons. The toons from this period lack color and have grainy film and sloppy edits. The characters look and sound different from their modern-day counterparts, and often have slightly different personae.<br />
<br />
This era spans from [[1933]] with "[[Kick the Can]]" to the 1937 release of "[[That a Ghost]]." Further toons may be uncovered one day.<br />
<br />
Most of the toons from this era, explicitly set in the [[Wikipedia:Great Depression|Great Depression]], center around the main characters' (The Homestar Runner, 1936 Marzipan and Fat Dudley) quest for food, and 1936 Strong Bad's attempts to foil them.<br />
<br />
It is possible that 1936-era dates are following the current date, with a difference of 67 years. ''Kick the Can'', dated 1933, was released in 2000. Later cartoons released in 2003 are dated 1936, and ''That A Ghost'', released in 2004, is dated 1937.<br />
<br />
They sometimes are different versions of regular, present-day toons or products-<br />
*[[The Cheat Theme Song]] = [[Ballad of The Sneak]]<br />
*[[Fluffy Puff Marshmallows]] = [[Fluffy Puff Air Puffed Sugar Delights]]<br />
<br />
<br />
== Characters <small>(in order of appearance)</small> ==<br />
*[[The Homestar Runner]] ([[Homestar Runner]])<br />
*[[1936 Strong Bad]] ([[Strong Bad]])<br />
*[[1936 Marzipan]] ([[Marzipan]])<br />
*[[Fat Dudley]] ([[Pom Pom]])<br />
* [[Strong Man]] ([[Strong Mad]])<br />
* [[The Sneak]] ([[The Cheat]])<br />
* [[The Guy at the Depot]] ([[Bubs]])<br />
* [[Sickly Sam]] ([[Strong Sad]])<br />
* [[The Devil]] ([[The Poopsmith]])<br />
* [[The Kaiser]] or [[The Bossman]] ([[The King of Town]])<br />
* [[The Football Player]] ([[Coach Z]])<br />
* [[Mr. Shmallow (character)|Mr. Shmallow]] ([[Marshie]])<br />
<br />
[[Category: 1936]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Mr._Shmallow_(toon)
Mr. Shmallow (toon)
2005-02-04T00:47:02Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Fun Facts */ Is this too obvious? Would everybody out there get this?</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:Mr Shmallow makes good.png|thumb|right|220px|Mr. Shmallow makes good]]<br />
<br />
A [[1936]] marshmallow commercial for [[Fluffy Puff Air Puffed Sugar Delights]]. Gives The Homestar Runner nightmares.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance)''' [[Mr. Shmallow (character)|Mr. Shmallow]], [[The Two Kids]], [[The Bossman]], [[The Moon]], [[The Homestar Runner]], [[Sickly Sam]] (Easter Egg), [[The Sneak]] (Easter Egg)<br />
<br />
Page Title: '''Mr. Shmallow makes good!'''<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
''{The screen displays the words "A Filmed Commercial Advertisement". Then Mr. Shmallow appears on the screen.}''<br />
<br />
'''MR. SHMALLOW:''' Greetings, fallows. I'm Mr. Shmallow. ''{his name appears on the screen}'' <br />
<br />
''{cuts to a bunch of candies on a table}''<br />
<br />
Have you grown loathe of ordinary confections? <br />
<br />
''{cuts to a shack labeled "Sugah Shak"}''<br />
<br />
Has the sugar shack left you out in the cold?<br />
<br />
''{the shack collapses, crushing The Two Kids}''<br />
<br />
''{we see two people with jetpacks and the words "Look Lively"}''<br />
<br />
Look lively at today's go-get-em lifestyle with Fluffy Puffs Air Puffed Sugar Delights! <br />
<br />
''{The Fluffy Puff box is displayed, then cuts to a pile of sugar being "puffed"}''<br />
<br />
Each delight is hand puffed using only the finest airs. <br />
<br />
''{A cartoon cloud is shown blowing air into the sugar, then a turkey and a piece of broccoli are "puffed"}''<br />
<br />
Air puffing is surely the future of eating delicious foodstuffs.<br />
<br />
''{cut to a fat, rich-looking man at a desk smiling}''<br />
<br />
Mr. Bossman wouldn't settle for much less!<br />
<br />
''{cut to marshmallow roasting over a fire}''<br />
<br />
Add open flames to create a flavor taste that will send you to the moon! <br />
<br />
''{Mr. Shmallow flies up to the moon, which eats him}''<br />
<br />
'''THE MOON:''' Air-puffed sugar delights.<br />
<br />
'''MR. SHMALLOW:''' ''{sweating}'' That's right, the moon. ''{cleans off his glasses, which have fogged up}'' Enjoy Fluffy Puffs Air-Puffed Sugar Delights. Hand-puffed at the factory in Neuconsin.<br />
<br />
'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{singing}'' Fluffy Puffs air-puffed sugar delights, hand-puffed at the factory in Neuconsin! ''{stops singing} {quickly} '' Fluffy Puffs Air-Puffed Sugar Delights. Hand-puffed at the factory in Neuconsin.<br />
<br />
''{The camera pulls back to reveal The Homestar Runner watching the commercial.}''<br />
<br />
'''MR. SHMALLOW:''' Look lively. ''{louder}'' Look lively! ''{The Homestar Runner jumps and Mr.Shmallow moves off the screen to the left}''<br />
<br />
'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That monster's going to give me nightmares.<br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
*At the end, click on "Air-Puffed Sugar Delights" to see a short video.<br />
<br />
:''{Sickly Sam is standing next to a bag of Delicious "Bag".}''<br />
<br />
:'''SICKLY SAM:''' This empty bag of Delicious "Bag" will make a fine sock for the colder of my two feet.<br />
:''{Sickly Sam shakes his left foot. The Sneak runs up, tears up the bag, and runs away}''<br />
<br />
:'''SICKLY SAM:''' Well folks, you know what that means. ''{disappears in a puff of smoke}''<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
*Mr. Shmallow's name is a takeoff on the word m[a]rshmallow.<br />
*Near the end, when Mr. Shmallow moves off the screen, the sound he makes is the same sound Homsar makes when he moves.<br />
<br />
*This Cartoon is roughly equivalent to [[Meet Marshie]] where Marshie talks about how Fluffy Puff Marshmallows are made and what you can do with them. It even includes a comment from the Homestar Runner at the end, echoing [[Homestar Runner|Homestar's]] appearance at the end of Meet Marshie.<br />
<br />
*Mr. Bossman's bowler hat and cigar debuted in Meet Marshie, where they were used to decorate a plate of Fluffy Puff Marshmallows being served for "Pinner."<br />
<br />
*In inbox and outbox on Mr. Bossman's desk read "Fired" and "To Be Fired."<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://homestarrunner.com/mrshmallow.html watch "Mr. Shmallow"]<br />
*[http://homestarrunner.com/mrshmallow.swf view the flash file for "Mr. Shmallow"]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Shorts]]<br />
[[Category:1936]]<br />
[[Category:The Sneak Filmography]]<br />
[[Category:The Homestar Runner Filmography]]<br />
[[Category:Sickly Sam Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/TROGDOR!
TROGDOR!
2005-02-04T00:38:54Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Fun Facts */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:trogdorgame.png|thumb|Trogdor!]]<br />
<br />
''"The beefy armed dragon has had it up to here with those pesky peasants. Achieve burnination and watch the countryside go up in flames."'' - [[Videlectrix]]<br />
<br />
This game is based on the character of [[Trogdor]] from the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[dragon]]. You follow Trogdor, squishing peasants and burninating cottages, all while avoiding knights and archers.<br />
<br />
'''Page Title:''' TROGDOR!!!<br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
[[Image:Togdor_secret.png|thumb|If you score more than 2000 points and die, [[Jonathan Howe]]'s name is shown]]<br />
*Click and hold the "G" in the TROGDOR title to see some game hints.<br />
**Don't let the peasants return to their cottages.<br />
**Once you're burninating, you're invincible.<br />
**Burninated peasants set their cottages on fire.<br />
**Get an extra man every 300 points.<br />
**What's a treasure hut?!?!<br />
**Secret Code?!?!<br />
*On the hints screen, you can use the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A, and then click the word "START"). This will start you off with 30 lives.<br />
*During the game you can hit the "k" key to kick the game. This doesn't seem to give you any advantage, but it does cause the machine to repeat the word "TROGDOR!" (A reference to [[Arcade Game]].)<br />
*Treasure Huts! You can enter certain huts and pick-up gold! To get to it you must burninate certain huts that block them, and then let the burnination shut off, otherwise you will burn the treasure hut as well. <b>On level 7, it's the leftmost hut. Burninate the 4 huts in the way. On level 11, it's the lower right hut. Burninate the huts around it. On level 16, it's the upper left hut. Burninate the three huts in the way.</b> It appears that you can only enter one hut per game.<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
*There are a number of funny interludes after the following levels, similar to the ones between some levels of Ms. Pac Man and other games:<br />
**Level 4 - "stompin' good"<br />
::''{A lone peasant is on the left side of the screen. Trogdor approaches from the right with two knights in hot pursuit. Trogdor stomps the peasant and then turns to burninate the knights as they retreat.}'' <br />
:*Level 8 - "fry 'em up Dan"<br />
::''{Trogdor is in the middle of the screen. Four peasants approach one by one from the left and are burninated.}''<br />
:*Level 12 - "parade of trogdors"<br />
::''{Nine Trogdors parade from right to left across the screen.}''<br />
:*Level 16 - "dancin' time"<br />
::''{Trogdor breaks it down surrounded by ten burninated peasants and two knights}''<br />
:*Level 20 - "flex it troggie"<br />
::''{Trogdor flexes his beefy arm.}''<br />
:*Level 24 - "peasant dominoes"<br />
::''{Seven peasants are in a line. Trogdor burninates the peasant on the right. The peasant to the left of the burninated peasant catches fire as the first peasant falls over. This effect dominoes down the line of peasants until they all fall over.}''<br />
:*Level 30 - "trogdor incognito"<br />
::''{Two peasants approach each other from opposite sides of the screen and stop in the middle. The peasant on the left burninates the peasant on the right. The peasant on the right runs off. The peasant on the left hops up and down.}''<br />
:*Level 34 - "go trogdor # 2!"<br />
::''{Seven peasants are hopping up and down as two Trogdors race across the screen from left to right. Trogdor number two wins the race.}''<br />
:*Level 38 - "forbidden peasant love"<br />
::''{Two peasants enter the screen from the right with a heart between them. As they reach the middle of the screen, a blue knight runs on screen and takes the peasant on the left away. The heart disappears as the peasant that was on the right is left alone.}''<br />
:*Level 42 - "2 cottages"<br />
::''{Two cottages appear.}''<br />
:*Level 46 - "a funny joke"<br />
::''{A knight is minding his own business on the left side of the screen. Out of nowhere, an archer appears on the right side of the screen and begins to shoot five arrows off of the knight's helmet. The archer leaves and the knight turns to face the spot where he was to find no one is there.}''<br />
:*Level 50 - "smote that kerrek!"<br />
::''{Trogdor is on screen with The Kerrek. The Kerrek bounces up and down a few times before Trogdor burninates him.}''<br />
::'''Strong Bad:''' Mmmm! Roast Kerrek!<br />
:*Level 100 - ''{A tiny arcade game Strong Bad enters the screen from the right.}''<br />
::'''STRONG BAD:''' What the? What am I doing in this game?<br />
<br />
::''{Arcade Strong Bad moves his arms up and down as the text "congratulations. you got good score" appears}<br />
<br />
::'''GAME:''' Congratulations. You got good score.<br />
<br />
::''{roll credits}''<br />
<br />
::'''cast:'''<br />
<br />
::''{Trogdor appears}''<br />
<br />
::'''trogdor'''<br />
<br />
::''{A peasant appears}''<br />
<br />
::'''perez'''<br />
<br />
::''{A slightly different peasant appears}''<br />
<br />
::'''hackworth'''<br />
<br />
::''{An on-fire peasant appears}''<br />
<br />
::''' 'the steve' '''<br />
<br />
::''{A blue knight appears}''<br />
<br />
::'''the blue knight'''<br />
<br />
::''{A more different blue knight appears}''<br />
<br />
::'''the red knight'''<br />
<br />
::''{Two archers appear, joined at their torso}''<br />
<br />
::'''the siamese archers'''<br />
<br />
::''{The Kerrek appears, and is burninated. His ashes form a roast The Kerrek, complete with apple in mouth.}''<br />
<br />
::'''and Wordly Wise as The Kerrek'''<br />
<br />
::''{Trogdor and Arcade Strong Bad appear at an angle}''<br />
<br />
::'''keep playing!'''<br />
<br />
::''{The game advances to the high score screen}''<br />
<br />
<br />
*Strong Bad will say things while you play. Here's a list:<br />
**"Aw, this is the worst game I've ever played!"<br />
**"Ohh.. this is the best game I've ever played."<br />
**"Stupid, freakin' knights."<br />
**"Squished you, peasanty."<br />
**"I squish you"<br />
**"Oh, yes! And the Trogdor comes in the niiight!"<br />
**"Oh, Trogdor! I pine for you."<br />
**"A Squisha Squisha"<br />
**"The tables have turned!" (when you get burninate power)<br />
**"Ugh, stupid arch-deluxe." <br />
**"Ugh, nothing more humiliating then getting killed by the archer...arch deluxe...show you next time!"<br />
**"Deuce!"<br />
**"What the? What am I doing in this game?!"<br />
**"Mmmmm, roast Kerrek!"<br />
**''{laughing}'' He's on fire! Look at 'em burning!"<br />
**"Beat that score, Strong Sad!" '''STRONG SAD:''' I don't even want to play that game.<br />
<br />
*The "Arch-Deluxe" is a reference to an old McDonald's Burger called the Arch Deluxe.<br />
*"Oh, Trogdor! I pine for you." is a reference to [[trevor the vampire]].<br />
*"Fry 'em up Dan" is a reference to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shel_Silverstein Shel Silverstein]'s poem "Ladies First".<br />
*Pausing sometimes causes a purple ball to become visible on the screen.<br />
*Lev. 27 is well nigh impossible. The peasant-paths are only accessible for 2 of the 6 cottages, so for every peasant you squish there are 2 left to wander back into their cottages (diminishing your burninator meter). Meanwhile, the cottages themselves wall you in to a very small area, making you a sitting duck for archers and knights.<br />
*This game is supposed to be a parody of the numerous HORRIBLY made arcade and atari games made in the wake of the success of Atari, when many companies made quick bad games to cash in on the video game craze in the early 80's that crashed when the Atari 2600 died (The video game industry was reborn circa 1985 when the NES was released).<br />
*Jonathan Howe's name being an easter egg is actually a reference to Adventure for the Atari 2600. When it was made Atari intentionally kept game designers from achieving celebrity status. In rebellion to this, Warren Robinett hid his name inside what is commonly regarded as the first easter egg. It was only accessible by picking up an invisible object, carrying it through a dragon infested maze, and touching it to a blank wall. Doing this revealed a room with Warren's name plastered all over in rainbow colors.<br />
*Wordly Wise is a series of textbooks desiged to build student's vocabulary. What this has to do with the Kerrek is unknown.<br />
*When you die the replay button says "Challenge again!". This is a reference to the good ending of Ghosts and Goblins which says the same thing.<br />
<br />
== Glitches ==<br />
*If you pause the game (using the space bar) when the archer is out pulling his bow, he will get stuck there until the end of the level, even if you die on that level.<br />
*If you die as soon as you achieve burnination status, you will come back to life with burnination, assuming you have any mans left.<br />
* When you pause the game at any time, you'll see a black dot close to the center of the screen<br />
* When you pause the game while a cottage is burninating, it will continue to burninate until it is destroyed.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*Play the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.html Game].<br />
*Play the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.swf Game (flash file)].<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Category:Videlectrix Games]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Second_Games_Menu
Second Games Menu
2005-02-04T00:27:10Z
<p>68.15.244.8: Added note from museum</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:Second_Games_Menu.png|thumb|right|220px|Atari style menu]]<br />
The '''Second Games Menu''' is a Atari 2600 themed menu, but it was considered a little complicated and is now found in the [[Museum]]. The concept of the menu was on moving [[Homestar Runner]] around the screen and onto icons representing the different games. According to TBC, it was a little too hard to figure out.<br />
<br />
==Available Games==<br />
'''Same as Original menu'''<br />
*[[Fortune Cookies]]<br />
*[[Homestar Talker]]<br />
*[[Bronco Trolleys]]<br />
*[[Hairstyle Runner]]<br />
*[[Astro Lite]]<br />
*[[Dancin' Bubs]]<br />
'''New for this menu'''<br />
*[[Strong Libs]]<br />
<br />
==External links==<br />
*[http://homestarrunner.com/games2.html Visit the Games Menu]<br />
*[http://homestarrunner.com/games2.swf View the Flash file]<br />
<br />
{{start box}}<br />
{{Succession box | before = [[Original Games Menu]] | title = [[Games]] Navigation | years = 2000-200? | after = [[Third Games Menu]]}}<br />
{{end box}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:HSR Navigation]][[Category: Early Work]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/army
army
2005-02-04T00:06:10Z
<p>68.15.244.8: added some internal links; fixed minor things</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:sbemail93.PNG|thumb|"Don't you die on me, Bennedetto!"]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #93'''<br />
<br />
Hank Toler asks about [[Strongbadia]]'s army. <br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]]/[[Firebert]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Homsar]], [[Frank Bennedetto]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Mrs. Bennedetto]] (Easter Egg)<br />
<br />
'''Date:''' January 5, 2004<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
''{The Compy appears to be dusty with a little cobweb on the top left corner}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{runs in and sits}'' Whoa. Guess it's been a while. Sorry about that, compy. Need to get some... ''{starts typing "strongbad_email.exe}'' Endust.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad reads}''<br />
<br />
<pre>Dear Strong Bad,<br />
I was curious as to whether or not<br />
Strong Badia had an official army.<br />
Your Homeboy,<br />
Hank Toler</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' Does Strongbadia have an army? Strongbadia needs no army, Hankatola. Me and that one big guy and that one little guy... we're a one man army. Er, a three man one-y. Three-to-one-marny? What I mean to say is, what do we need an army for when the three of us pretty much do as we please? I mean, it's not like there's anyone around to oppose us.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{suddenly appears wearing a bowl on his head and carrying a large spoon}'' All right, maggot! Fall it out. Colonel ''{he pronounces it phonetically, i.e. "col-o-nel"}'' Homestar Runner is recruiting ''the'' most elite team of crack commandos to invade Strongbadia. Do you has what it takes to join the Homestarmy? Will you bring a sack lunch and some orange slices for me and serve your country?<br />
Will you, stupid?!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Um... no. I don't really have any interest in invading my own--<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Ten-hut! Draft dodger, eh? We'll see if those trees you're always hugging save you when Gordon Lightfoot's creeping round your back stair. Company... Halt! Backwards... March!<br />
<br />
''{Homestar marches backwards off screen}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' What in the-<br />
<br />
''{Homestar sticks his head back in}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Oh, and if you change your mind, and you wanna trade in that skirt you're wearing for a nice pair of camos, we're having a pep rally up at the stick in oh-fifteen minutes.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Wow. I thought I knew what ridiculous was, until this day. This definitely merits some further reconnaissance. The Cheat!<br />
<br />
'''THE CHEAT''': Emeh! ''{sounds like "I'm here"}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': The Cheat, I need you to find out--<br />
<br />
'''THE CHEAT''': ''{sounding a little upset}'' Omee mah meh. ''{sounds like "I'm not listening.."}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Ohhh. Don't make me call you that. It's not a good commando name.<br />
<br />
'''THE CHEAT''': ''{forcefully}'' Memamo meh! ''{sounds like "Commando name!"}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Ugh, all riiight. ''{reluctantly}'' Firebert. I need you to find out what the crap Homestar Runner is up to at the stick in 0-15 minutes.<br />
<br />
'''THE CHEAT''': Meh, meer! ''{sounds like "Yes, Sir!"}''<br />
<br />
''{scene changes to The Stick}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Are you sick and tired of playing second-fiddle to a two bit wrestle man and his yellow dog?<br />
<br />
'''CROWD''': YEAH!<br />
<br />
''{faint rewind noise}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Are you ready to fight alongside your Colonel ''{again pronounced phonetically}'' and give your five bucks to the Homestarmy if it comes to that?<br />
<br />
'''CROWD''': YEAH!<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Do you wanna paint that fence some other cool color and put a fake beard on that tire?<br />
<br />
''{silence}''<br />
<br />
''{Switches to view of Homestar's audience, showing it consists of the Painting of a guy with a big knife, Strong Sad holding a tapedeck, Homsar, and a popcorn popper.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD''': Oh, sorry. Forgot to rewind.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Sad rewinds tape deck and presses play}''<br />
<br />
'''CROWD''': YEAH!<br />
<br />
'''HOMSAR''': DaAaAaAa! You gotta get yours. I gotta get mine.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': All right then, maggots! Lets get out there and invade us some serious Strongbadia! Company... GO!<br />
<br />
''{The Homestarmy marches off and The Cheat appears from behind The Stick. The view now shifts to Strongbadia where Strong Bad and Strong Mad are wondering about badminton}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Yeah, I don't know. Maybe there is a goodminton.<br />
<br />
''{The Homestarmy marches up. Homsar forgets to stop marching and walks right off the other side of the screen.}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Strong Bad, so I see you decided to join the other side, eh?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': What joining?? I ''am'' the other side!<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Ten-Hut! Prepare to feel the flouride sting of the Homestarmy! Strongbadia... will be ours!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': No it won't. We're about to play some badminton. So.. no invasion.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Oh. So I see. ''{pause}'' Retreat!! Fall back men! We're in over our heads!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD''': Hold the line! Hold the liiiine!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': And take this stupid thing with you.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad kicks the popcorn popper. A crash is heard off screen.}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Bennedetto! Don't you die on me Bennedetto! Not on my watch! Don't you give up! ''{Tearing up}'' You never gave me the five bucks...<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to Strong Bad's computer}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{Typing}'' And that, my dear Hankerin', is why Strongbadia will never need an army, though we are in dire need of a copy of the official rules of badminton. No idea what we're doing. None.<br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{mumbling}'' Firebert. Terrible!<br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
*Near the beginning, click "[[Three-to-one Marny]]" to see a handbook containing the rules to playing 3-person marny, as written by the guy who wrote the book ([[Lem Sportsinterviews]]) in the Strong Bad Email [[studying]]. Click the rulebook to read it.<br />
<br />
*At the end, click on "No idea" to see a scene at [[Marzipan's House]].<br />
:''Homestar walks up to a microwave.<br />
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Mrs. Benedetto, my name is Colonel ''{still pronounced phonetically}'' Homestar Runner. I served with Frank in the Homestarmy at the battle of Strongbadia. I hate to give you this news... Frank was one of the finest frigging soldiers I ever met! And he still kinda owes me five bucks. So, if you could just... fork it over...<br />
<br />
*Also at the end, click "army" to see a [[Firebert]] action figure. It's reminiscient of the action figures in the Strong Bad Email [[action figure]], and later appears with [[The Cheat Commandos]].<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Explanations===<br />
*When Strong Bad says it's been a while he was referring to the fact that this was the first update in a few weeks.<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*This, [[local news]], and [[flag day]] are the only times we see [[Free Country, USA]] with a gray sky.<br />
===Remarks===<br />
*When you adjust the contrast, you can see the spots where Strong Bad wiped the dust off his screen.<br />
*It looks like Strong Bad has finished the [[Painting of a guy with a big knife]]. (In [[i love you]] he didn't paint the bottom few inches.) <br />
*Except for the popcorn popper (Bennedetto), everyone in the Homestarmy is wearing a cereal bowl as a helmet.<br />
*The painting walks into Strongbadia by itself. Homsar carries Bennedetto.<br />
*Homsar keeps walking off of the screen when the Homestarmy arrives to invade Strongbadia, most likely because the cereal bowl is covering his eyes.<br />
<br />
===Goofs===<br />
*Although Strong Sad says that he forgot to rewind after the second "crowd cheer" at the pep rally, the rewind sound does play after the second cheer.<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The box Homestar is standing on at the stick says "Twelve Of Them". This is a reference to [[fingers]], in which Homestar stands on a box which bears the words "Eleven Soaps".<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*Homestar says that the enemy is Gordon Lightfoot, a Canadian singer. He says "...the trees you're always huggin' comes to save you when Gordon Lightfoot starts '''creepin' around your back stair'''". This is a lyric from one his most famous songs, "Sundown". It goes like this: <br />
:'''"Sundown, you'd better take care, when I find you've been creepin' 'round my back stair"'''<br />
*Bennedetto is most likely a [http://www.epinions.com/West_Bend_Hot_Air_Popcorn_Popper_01568_Small_Appliances/display_~full_specs West Bend Hot Air Popcorn Popper 01568 Popcorn Maker].<br />
*When Homestar says "Don't you die on me, Bennedetto!" it may be in reference to Gunsmoke when Tate says "Don't you die on me son, don't you think of it!" over Dale's unconscious and paralized body.<br />
<br />
===Fast Forward===<br />
*Frank Bennedetto may have been the only casualty of the Battle of [[Strongbadia]], but he may not have died. Homestar led Mrs. Benedetto to believe that he was dead, but the appropriate term is more 'missing in action'. You see him behind the fence in the [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], and actually back in the army in the [[Labor Dabor]] puppet thing.<br />
*Firebert later becomes a character in the [[The Cheat Commandos|Cheat Commandos]]. Additionally, the fact that Firebert is not a good commando name is referenced again in the toon "[[Shopping for Danger]]", when Firebert is ordered to "stay here and think of a better commando name".<br />
<br />
== DVD Version ==<br />
*The Three-to-One-Marny Easter Egg is viewable using the angle button on your DVD remote.<br />
*The DVD version features hidden creator's commentary. To acccess it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail93.html watch "army"]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail93.swf view the flash file for "army"]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Homsar Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]][[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:Firebert Filmography]][[Category:Homestarmy Cartoons]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/origins
origins
2005-02-03T23:38:33Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Real-World References */ Episode titles are enclosed in quotation marks</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:bellybutton.PNG|thumb|The origin of Strong Sad's Belly Button.]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #123'''<br />
<br />
Strong Bad discusses the hangingoutitude of [[The Stick]].<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Little Strong Bad]], [[Señor]], [[Mr. Bland]], [[Bubs]], [[The Stick]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homsar]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The King of Town]]<br />
<br />
'''Date:''' January 31, 2005<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in monotone}'' This email is leaving the station. Please move to the center of the email and away from the doors.<br />
<br />
<pre>subject: a sticky question...<br />
Dear Strong bad,<br />
I have recently been wondering about the origin of the<br />
stick. Has it always been a good place for hanging out and<br />
making rendezvous?<br />
<br />
Luke, Eau Claire, WI</pre><br />
<br />
''{he pronounces 'rendezvous' as 'rendezvouuuu-ses', and the bottom line as 'Luke, ewww Claire, why?'}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! Why do you Van Peebles always wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing? Like, do you wanna know how Strong Sad got his belly button too?<br />
<br />
''{cut to a young Strong Bad's birthday; a sign reads 'Happy Birthday Lil Strong Bad'. Strong Bad has a black shirt with a yellow truck on it, and is looking at a white present with a blue ribbon and a tag reading 'To Strong Bad From Mom or Dad'. He grabs the lid and takes it off to reveal a power drill.}''<br />
<br />
'''LIL STRONG BAD:''' ''{lifting the drill}'' Oh, awesome! ''{he revs the drill}''<br />
<br />
''{cut back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears the screen}'' Or, like, the origin of Bubs' Concession Stand?<br />
<br />
''{Original Book style. Señor and Mr. Bland stand in flat greenness, and Strong Bad's words are subtitled.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Señor Havin' A Little Trouble and Mr. Bland were by far the most popular characters.<br />
<br />
''{a red Stand falls on them with a splurt!}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Then, they were crushed by a falling Bubs' Concession Stand.<br />
<br />
''{Bubs appears in it, waving}''<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' Hot time!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' said Bubs<br />
<br />
''{back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I'm not gonna show you those things. Or the origin of the stick. But I will indulge your curiousity ''{misspelt, but pronounced correctly}'' about the stick's hangingoutitude. It currently rates a 10, but such was not always the case. Like when Homestar used to hold his weekly ''{sounding disturbed, and the words turn green and jiggle on screen}'' bread sing-alongs, ''{back to normal}'' we avoided that place like the plegg! ''{deletes up to the 'p'}'' plague!<br />
<br />
''{cut to The Stick, where Homestar Runner is surrounded by bread. He is holding a slice and waving it around while marching on the spot}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' Bread is a good time for me, woo-oo-doo singing, bread is a good time for everybody!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; Homestar keeps peeking out around the bread slice}'' We sure sniped that problem right between the eyes from three hundred yards by scheduling The Cheat's rhythmic chain dancing recitals for the same time and place.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad and Strong Mad stand in the background while The Cheat, dressed in a blue suit, is swinging a chain around, hitting Homestar's face and the bread. Homestar has acquired a sign reading 'Come On & Sing.'}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing, despite being hit in the face}'' I cut the crusts off in the morning light...<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clapping; The Cheat picks up a slice of bread and twirls it while making The Cheat noises}'' He's quite good.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG MAD:''' WHAT GRACE!<br />
<br />
''{back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' After a couple of minutes, the popularity of Homestar's sing-alongs faded and Strong Mad ate The Cheat's chainwhip. So that's when the stick became a great place to spraypaint Marzipan.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat by The Stick spraying at Marizpan's dress, which has a picture of a steak and 'St8k DiNNeR' written on it graffiti-style}''<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' To me, this is something that losers would do.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, this is gonna be my freshest piece yet.<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Mad, that looks like cooking spray.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! Aw, that's some never-forgive action right there.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; the scene darkens slightly}'' But spraypainting people isn't very much fun when they stand there and make fun of you.<br />
<br />
''{cut to Marzipan standing by The Stick with an upside-down Homsar stuck to her head, at night; a wolf howls}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I super-glued her to Hhh-Homsar, and left them for dead.<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooh, I think I hear wolves coming.<br />
<br />
'''HOMSAR:''' I'm the human wedgie. ''{His hat falls and lands on Marzipan's dress}''<br />
<br />
''{Homestar marches in, holding a loaf of bread}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' .. don't ask me why, pumpernickel and rye. ''{Note: Homestar's speech impediment makes "why" and "rye" sound exactly the same.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' In order to properly leave them for dead, and not keep hanging around them for dead, we relocated to behind Bubs' ''{cut to Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat behind Bubs' Concession Stand with the muffler and pipe, and a crown with 'On Point' spraypainted on the wall}'' and started calling ourselves the On Point Kings. We'd take no guff from nobody.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{to The Cheat}'' Hey man, I know what it means. I was just seeing if you knew.<br />
<br />
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes frustrated The Cheat noises}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walking in}'' Have you guys seen my moleskin journal?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{producing the power drill}'' You want another belly button there, Harry Elephanté?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{starts at powering of drill}'' Waaah! No sir! Heck no at all! ''{runs away}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws drill away}'' Man, did you guys see me refuse to take that guff? I flat out rejected it! That guff never even had a chance! ''{pulls out a nail file and starts filing his gloves}'' Ah, that's what being an On Point King is all about.<br />
<br />
'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{walks in with a blue dunce cap on for some reason}'' I hear somebody mention a pointy king? ''{nods his hat}'' Doink doink?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Heck no at all!<br />
<br />
''{back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' So ya see Claire, if it weren't for the stick, and Marzipan's considerable resistance to death, the On Point Kings may never have stolen the King of Town's dunce cap and renamed it Lotionman. {''a little embarrassed, and stutters his 'd' (not typed)}'' D-Don't ask, it was Strong Mad's idea. Well, I hope that makes you not email me anymore.<br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''<br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
<br />
* Click on "Eau Claire, WI" to view Beverly Sportsinterview's book "Ewww..Claire!! Why???"<br />
* Click on "dunce" at the end to see and hear an album of Homestar's Bread Sing-alongs.<br />
** Keep clicking the CD cover to hear different songs. The three songs he sings are the same as the ones from the email.<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*This is the first time Homsar's hat has not returned to him, regardless of his position (if we don't count [[Modestly Hot Homsar]]). Because he is upside down while glued to Marzipan's forehead, his hat settles on her dress. However, in his character video, he ends up upside down at the end (or, depending on your point of view, the entire video), but his hat still comes back to him.<br />
*This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally [[The Brothers Chaps]] keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.<br />
*This is the first time [[Señor|Señor's]] full name is revealed (Señor Havin' A Little Trouble).<br />
<br />
===Remarks===<br />
*Strong Bad has trouble with the pronunciation of the plural form of the word ''rendezvous'', which is spelled the same as the singular, not ''rendezvouses''. The plural can be pronounced either /'''ron'''-day-voo/ (which is also the same as the singular) or /'''ron'''-day-vooz/.<br />
*"Eau Claire" means "Clear Water" in French; the correct pronunciation of "eau" is "oh".<br />
*The word "St8k" is spraypainted on Marzipan. If it were pronounced the way it is spelled, it would be "Statke" instead of Steak.<br />
*In the Bread Sing-a-Longs CD, the picture of Homestar blinks. This is due to his flash animation, which constantly has him blinking.<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*We last saw the smashed muffler in [[no loafing]].<br />
*The drill noise was first heard in [[privileges]].<br />
*The appearance of Homestar's Bread Singalongs CD is similar to Strong Bad's Rhythm 'N' Grammar as seen at the end of [[local news]].<br />
* The "[[On Point Kings]]" may be a reference to email number 81, "[[date]]", where Marzipan says "Strong Bad is On Point" in Strong Bad's "H*R and Marzipan Dating Simulation XR".<br />
* [[The Brothers Chaps]] often avoid the main subject of the email (such as in [[car]]). This email has Strong Bad making that even more obvious.<br />
*This is the second time in the past two cartoons that a character has been pictured wearing a truck shirt. Little Strong Bad does so here, and [[Tompkins]] wore one in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. Also, Little Strong Bad's voice is very similar to [[Tompkins]]'<br />
*Strong Bad's misspelling of "plague" is likely a reference to [[Peasant's Quest]], in which there is a joke about misspelling "plaque" as "plague".<br />
<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*Strong Bad's introduction to the email is a reference to the automated voice systems commonly used on subway trains, and is nearly identical to the one once used on the train between concourses at the Atlanta Airport (TBC live in Atlanta).<br />
*The drill used to give Strong Sad his belly button is likely a DeWalt Drill, DeWalt being famous for their yellow colored heavy duty tools.<br />
**The sound that the drill makes is closer to the sound of a compressed-air powered tool, rather than an electric drill.<br />
*When Señor and Mr. Bland are crushed in the scene depicting the origin of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], the manner in which their legs stick out is as that of the Wicked Witch of the East in [[Wikipedia:The_Wizard_of_Oz_%281939_movie%29|The Wizard of Oz]] when she is crushed by Dorothy's house.<br />
*Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]], is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Beverly Cleary|Beverly Cleary]], an author for children and young adults.<br />
*[[Wikipedia:Moleskine|Moleskine]] is a brand of pocket notebooks and sketch pads popular among trend-following artists and writers. Strong Sad mistakenly pronounces it "mole skin", whereas the correct pronunciation is "mol-a-skeen'-a".<br />
*"Harry Elephante" is a reference to famous calypso musician [[Wikipedia:Harry Belafonte|Harry Belafonte]]. As similar joke was made in the ''Friends'' episode entitled "The One After The Super Bowl," when Ross (David Schwimmer) mentions that his monkey's favorite toy is named "Harry Elephante". It also brings to mind Chester Elegante, from [[dreamail]]. <br />
*"Van Peebles" is a reference to the filmmakers [[Wikipedia:Melvin Van Peebles|Melvin Van Peebles]] (known for ''[[Wikipedia:Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song|Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song]]'') and his son [[Wikipedia:Mario Van Peebles|Mario Van Peebles]].<br />
*In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band [[Wikipedia:Dokken|Dokken]], whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light." <br />
*Where "bread sing-alongs" is green and jittering, this could be a reference to the Nintendo 64 game Banjo-Kazooie, where when a character said something 'disgusting' those particular words would jiggle in that fashion.<br />
*Strong Bad's line "that's some never-forgive action right there" is a direct quote from Min One in the [[Wikipedia:graffiti|graffiti]] documentary [[Wikipedia:Style Wars|Style Wars]].<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.html view "origins"]<br><br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.swf view the flash file for "origins"]<br />
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1907 forum thread re: "origins"]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Lappy 486 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Bubs Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Marzipan Filmography]][[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]][[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:The King of Town Filmography]][[Category:Homsar Filmography]][[Category:Señor Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/404%27d
404'd
2005-02-02T03:57:07Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Transcript */ another minor fix</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:404.PNG|thumb|OW! my browser!]]<br />
<br />
[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemailNaN.html '''404'd'''] is the error page that comes up when you type in a file name that does not exist in the homestarrunner.com domain.<br />
<br />
This replaced an [http://www.homestarrunner.com/errorpage.html error page] that featured [[Strong Bad]].<br />
<br />
'''Page Title:''' Oops! You bwoke it.<br />
<br />
'''Cast:''' [[Strong Bad]] (voiceover), [[The Ugly One]], [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]]<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' 404'd!<br />
<br />
''{The Ugly One says, "Ow! my browser!" while being arrowed by The Man with the Huge Mouth.}''<br />
<br />
The text reads:<br />
<pre>404'd!!<br />
FiLE NOT FOUND<br />
<br />
Boy, you sure are<br />
stupid.<br />
<br />
Were you just making up names of files or what?<br />
i mean, i've seen some pretend file names in my<br />
day, but come on! it's like you're not even trying.<br />
<br />
in closing, go away.</pre><br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
<br />
*404 (File not Found) is the HTTP error code given when a file cannot be found.<br />
*The image on the right of the message is a modified version of a shot from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] where The Ugly One is arrowed.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/404error.html view the 404'd page]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/404error.swf view the flash file]<br />
[[Category: Teen Girl Squad]][[Category:Special Pages]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/404%27d
404'd
2005-02-02T03:56:28Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Fun Facts */ minor fix</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:404.PNG|thumb|OW! my browser!]]<br />
<br />
[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemailNaN.html '''404'd'''] is the error page that comes up when you type in a file name that does not exist in the homestarrunner.com domain.<br />
<br />
This replaced an [http://www.homestarrunner.com/errorpage.html error page] that featured [[Strong Bad]].<br />
<br />
'''Page Title:''' Oops! You bwoke it.<br />
<br />
'''Cast:''' [[Strong Bad]] (voiceover), [[The Ugly One]], [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]]<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' 404'd!<br />
<br />
''{The Ugly One says, "Ow! my browser!" while being arrow'd by The Man with the Huge Mouth.}''<br />
<br />
The text reads:<br />
<pre>404'd!!<br />
FiLE NOT FOUND<br />
<br />
Boy, you sure are<br />
stupid.<br />
<br />
Were you just making up names of files or what?<br />
i mean, i've seen some pretend file names in my<br />
day, but come on! it's like you're not even trying.<br />
<br />
in closing, go away.</pre><br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
<br />
*404 (File not Found) is the HTTP error code given when a file cannot be found.<br />
*The image on the right of the message is a modified version of a shot from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] where The Ugly One is arrowed.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/404error.html view the 404'd page]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/404error.swf view the flash file]<br />
[[Category: Teen Girl Squad]][[Category:Special Pages]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/spring_cleaning
spring cleaning
2005-02-02T03:48:07Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Trivia */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:sbemail20.PNG|thumb|DELETED!!]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #20'''<br />
<br />
Caitlyn, steve, Mike, Chad, and Sue have some questions for Strong Bad. He'd rather not answer them, making a [[DELETED]] free-for-all.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]]<br />
__FORCETOC__<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Hello, everybody! This week it's time for some spring cleaning. Ready? Go!<br />
<br />
<pre>Dear Strong Bad,<br />
Why do you hate Homestar so much? He seems <br />
like a nice guy to me.<br />
Caitlyn</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, what a good question! Let me think about how I should answer that...<br />
<br />
'''''DELETED!!'''''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ha ha ha, that felt great. What's next?<br />
<br />
<pre>Do you have a secret crush with marzipan?<br />
steve<br />
sterling, VA</pre><br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad prounounces VA as "Vah"}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah, this question is definitely worth my time and consideration.<br />
<br />
'''''DELETED!!'''''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh ho ho, this is getting good!<br />
<br />
<pre>Dear Strong Bad,<br />
How do you type with boxing gloves on?<br />
Mike,<br />
Bend Oregon</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, that's a new one. No way do I get this freaking question all the time. I suppose I'll probably answer it right now.<br />
<br />
'''''DELETED!!'''''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{laughing}'' Whoa, who's next man?<br />
<br />
<pre>Dear Strong Bad,<br />
<br />
Are you made of crap? Did you invent the word crap? <br />
Where did the word crap come from?<br />
<br />
Crapfully crapfully,<br />
Chad</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I'll totally answer this one because apparently the only thing I'm concerned with is the word crap-<br />
<br />
'''''DELETED!!'''''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I'm on a roll!<br />
<br />
<pre>Strong Bad,<br />
Your last email was pathetic. I was disappointed. <br />
Come on, you can do better than that! This is like <br />
the highlight of my week.<br />
Surprised at your lack of humor,<br />
Sue</pre><br />
<br />
''{Instead of saying "Sue", he says and types "deleted".}''<br />
<br />
'''''DELETED!!'''''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Aaaah! I feel so cleansed. So fresh and so clean, clean. Okay, so until next time, ain't nobody dope as me.<br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes out and it says "Click here to e-mail strong bad", click on the text to email him.}''<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Explanations===<br />
*Sue, who notes that last week's email was "pathetic", was referring to [[tape-leg]].<br />
<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*This is the first email where the screen flashes [[DELETED]]!! when Strong Bad deletes something.<br />
*This is the first time we see a "How do you type with boxing gloves" email.<br />
* This is the last email where The Paper reads, "Click here to e-mail Strong Bad."<br />
<br />
===Remarks===<br />
*When Strong Bad answers Susan's email, he types "DELETED" then presses enter. All the other times he deleted emails here, though, he never typed in "DELETED" -- he simply hit one key on the keyboard.<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*The last few lines are from a song by OutKast called 'So Fresh, So Clean'; that's why he said 'Clean' twice. The song's chorus goes ''Ain't nobody dope as me, I'm just so fresh and clean (so fresh and so clean, clean). ''The song is featured on the albums "Stankonia" and "Big Boi and Dre Present...OutKast".''''<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail20.html watch "spring cleaning"]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail20.swf view the flash file for "spring cleaning"]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]<br />
[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/credit_card
credit card
2005-02-02T03:43:20Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Trivia */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:sbemail12.PNG|thumb|Homestar contributes to the Lots of Awesome Stuff for Strong Bad Fund]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #12'''<br />
<br />
Strong Bad gets a scam e-mail trying to trick him into giving out his credit card information. So he edits it and forwards it to Homestar.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]] (voice over)<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Initiate email check in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.<br />
<br />
<pre>Dear Mr. Bad<br />
<br />
We regret to inform you that your credit card<br />
has expired. To keep your account, we will need<br />
you to send your old credit card number and<br />
expiration date, as well as a new one so we can<br />
make the change. We promise we are real and<br />
not just trying to steal your money.<br />
<br />
John, and some other people<br />
who aren't scam artists</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, this sounds pretty serious. I know just what to do. Just a little of this... ''{He changes "Mr. Bad" to "Homestar Runner"}'' Ooh, maybe a dash of that... ''{He changes the signature to "Superfied Credit Union". He then types "forward message", forwarding it to Homestar Runner.}'' <br />
<br />
''{Fade to black. The text "5 minutes later" is typed in, then after a pause, backspaced out. Fade back in.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, let's see what we got here...<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad begins reading, and almost immediately the audio fades from Strong Bad's voice into a voice-over by Homestar.}''<br />
<br />
<pre>Dear Superfied Credit Union,<br />
You've got the same e-mail address as my<br />
friend Strong Bad! Anyway, here's my<br />
credit card information:</pre><br />
<br />
''{The following is not read aloud.}''<br />
<br />
<pre>5675 116 116 1352<br />
<br />
Exp. 13/02</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{laughing}'' That was too easy, man. Well, it looks like Homestar is about to make a little contribution to the Lots of Awesome Stuff for Strong Bad Fund. ''{He types in "internet" and goes to The Coolest Stuff Ever (th_coolest_stuff_ever.com), a website that has a lot of really expensive stuff. He clicks on the "purchase" button for "spaceship".}'' Gimme one of these... ''{clicks on "killer robots" twice}'' A couple of these... ''{"rocket launcher"}'' Oh, everybody needs one of these... ''{"robot dog/shark"}'' Oh, THIS thing, I gotta have that...<br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*So far, this is the only time that Strong Bad has been seen accessing the Internet. He describes being on the Internet in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]], but it is not seen.<br />
<br />
===Remarks===<br />
*Homestar's credit card apparently expired in the thirteenth month of 2002.<br />
*This email shows a mouse cursor on the [[Tandy 400]], which clearly doesn't have a mouse.<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The first four numbers in Homestar's credit card number can be used to access the pack of [[Homsar]] quotes from "[[Downloads]]."<br />
===Fast Forward===<br />
*There is a website dedicated to this email. (See External Links.)<br />
<br />
=== Cost of Some Stuff on the Internet ===<br />
<br />
:'''spaceship -''' $3,000,000,000<br />
:'''rocket launcher -''' $1,000,000<br />
:'''killer robot -''' $6,000,000<br />
:'''200 bean burritos -''' $300<br />
:'''robotic dog/shark -''' $500,000<br />
:'''assorted awesome things -''' $30,000<br />
:'''golden limousine -''' $900,000<br />
:'''two-headed cobra -''' (seasonal) market price<br />
:'''bag of money -''' assorted amounts<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail12.html watch "credit card"]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail12.swf view the flash file for "credit card"]<br />
*[http://www.the-coolest-stuff-ever.com website based on this email]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/credit_card
credit card
2005-02-02T03:42:14Z
<p>68.15.244.8: </p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:sbemail12.PNG|thumb|Homestar contributes to the Lots of Awesome Stuff for Strong Bad Fund]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #12'''<br />
<br />
Strong Bad gets a scam e-mail trying to trick him into giving out his credit card information. So he edits it and forwards it to Homestar.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]] (voice over)<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Initiate email check in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.<br />
<br />
<pre>Dear Mr. Bad<br />
<br />
We regret to inform you that your credit card<br />
has expired. To keep your account, we will need<br />
you to send your old credit card number and<br />
expiration date, as well as a new one so we can<br />
make the change. We promise we are real and<br />
not just trying to steal your money.<br />
<br />
John, and some other people<br />
who aren't scam artists</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, this sounds pretty serious. I know just what to do. Just a little of this... ''{He changes "Mr. Bad" to "Homestar Runner"}'' Ooh, maybe a dash of that... ''{He changes the signature to "Superfied Credit Union". He then types "forward message", forwarding it to Homestar Runner.}'' <br />
<br />
''{Fade to black. The text "5 minutes later" is typed in, then after a pause, backspaced out. Fade back in.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, let's see what we got here...<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad begins reading, and almost immediately the audio fades from Strong Bad's voice into a voice-over by Homestar.}''<br />
<br />
<pre>Dear Superfied Credit Union,<br />
You've got the same e-mail address as my<br />
friend Strong Bad! Anyway, here's my<br />
credit card information:</pre><br />
<br />
''{The following is not read aloud.}''<br />
<br />
<pre>5675 116 116 1352<br />
<br />
Exp. 13/02</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{laughing}'' That was too easy, man. Well, it looks like Homestar is about to make a little contribution to the Lots of Awesome Stuff for Strong Bad Fund. ''{He types in "internet" and goes to The Coolest Stuff Ever (th_coolest_stuff_ever.com), a website that has a lot of really expensive stuff. He clicks on the "purchase" button for "spaceship".}'' Gimme one of these... ''{clicks on "killer robots" twice}'' A couple of these... ''{"rocket launcher"}'' Oh, everybody needs one of these... ''{"robot dog/shark"}'' Oh, THIS thing, I gotta have that...<br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*So far, this is the only time that Strong Bad has been seen accessing the internet. He describes being on the internet in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]], but it is not seen.<br />
===Remarks===<br />
*Homestar's credit card apparently expired in the thirteenth month of 2002.<br />
*This email shows a mouse cursor on the [[Tandy 400]], which clearly doesn't have a mouse.<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The first four numbers in Homestar's credit card number can be used to access the pack of [[Homsar]] quotes from "[[Downloads]]."<br />
===Fast Forward===<br />
*There is a website dedicated to this email. (See External Links.)<br />
<br />
=== Cost of Some Stuff on the Internet ===<br />
<br />
:'''spaceship -''' $3,000,000,000<br />
:'''rocket launcher -''' $1,000,000<br />
:'''killer robot -''' $6,000,000<br />
:'''200 bean burritos -''' $300<br />
:'''robotic dog/shark -''' $500,000<br />
:'''assorted awesome things -''' $30,000<br />
:'''golden limousine -''' $900,000<br />
:'''two-headed cobra -''' (seasonal) market price<br />
:'''bag of money -''' assorted amounts<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail12.html watch "credit card"]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail12.swf view the flash file for "credit card"]<br />
*[http://www.the-coolest-stuff-ever.com website based on this email]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/brianrietta
brianrietta
2005-02-02T03:33:01Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Trivia */ Chaps is plural -- doesn't need an -s after the apostrophe.</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:sbemail8.PNG|thumb|Brian's love letter]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #8'''<br />
<br />
Strong Bad gets hit on, and it's not quite what he expected.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]]<br />
__FORCETOC__<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' I remember the time when I checked my email.<br />
<br />
<pre>Dear Strong Bad,<br />
Every time I watch a cartoon with you in it, <br />
I can't help but realize how incredibly gorgeous <br />
you are. I love the way you walk around without <br />
your shirt on so confidently. Anyways, I <br />
was wondering if you would like to go <br />
out sometime. Give me a call, Pom-<br />
Pom has my number.<br />
<br />
Hopefully yours,<br />
Brian</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing, speaking suavely}'' Well, Brian, maybe you and I could... ''{stops typing, becomes shocked/angry}'' hey... BRIAN!? What the crap? ''{typing}'' Look, man. Unless Brian is short for... Brianrietta or Brian-Sue or something like that it's just not gonna work out between you and me, okay? - Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams, - Strong Bad ''{stops typing}'' Okay, so until next week... 1, 2, 3, email me! 1, 2, 4, email me more! <br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*This is the first email to use a new typing sound effect - without the buzz.<br />
*This is one of the very few emails where Strong Bad actually signs his name at the end.<br />
*This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.<br />
*This is the first Strong Bad Email using [[The Brothers Chaps]]' current style of animation, where his head, rather than his mouth, moves. This, apparently, is a much harder sort of animation. Also, note the highlights on Strong Bad's eyes.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail8.html watch "brianrietta"]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail8.swf view the flash file for "brianrietta"]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/They_Might_Be_Giants
They Might Be Giants
2005-02-02T02:42:52Z
<p>68.15.244.8: fixed punctuation, quotes and whatnot</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:John_&_John_2.png|thumb|220px|The Two Johns, [[Powered by The Cheat]] ]]<br />
'''They Might Be Giants''' is a popular band that has collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps]] on several occasions. They Might Be Giants consists of [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/John_Flansburgh John Flansburgh], [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/John_Linnell John Linnell], [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Dan_Miller Dan Miller], [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Dan_Weinkauf Danny Weinkauf], and [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Marty_Beller Marty Beller].<br />
<br />
The story of the the Homestar Runner collaboration:<br />
<br />
''"It was very circuitous. ... A photograph was taken of me wearing a Homsar shirt, which is one of the more obscure characters in Homestar. I was at an in-store thing wearing this shirt and a fan had taken a photograph of me signing their book or whatever, and the photograph of me showed up in some blog, and somebody made them aware of it. They were like, 'Hey look, they're wearing your shirt, you guys,' and so they [The Brothers Chaps] knew that we were fans. And I guess Linnell kind of reached out to them and said, 'You know, if there's anything you want us to do, if you have any musical needs for your site or whatever, we'd be certainly happy to help you guys out,' and they took us up on that offer. We did a bunch of things with them &mdash; we did a jam session with the Homestar puppet, and they did this video for 'Experimental Film' &mdash; and it's kind of a mutual admiration society. We really enjoy what they do."'' &mdash; John Flansburgh'' from an interview in the [http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/music/Content?oid=oid:59640 Tucson Weekly], 19 August 2004<br />
<br />
== They Might Be Giants Sightings ==<br />
*They furnished the music for the [[Strong Bad Email]]: [[different town]]<br />
*John, John, and Marty jam with [[Homestar Runner]] in the [[Puppet Jam|Puppet Jam series]]<br />
*The Brothers Chaps animated the [[Experimental Film|video]] for [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Experimental_Film "Experimental Film"], one of the songs from their 2004 CD [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/The_Spine "The Spine"].<br />
*[[Strong Sad]] quotes They Might Be Giants lyrics (for the song "Don't Let's Start") in his [[Strong Sad's Lament|journal]] ("Everybody dies, frustrated and sad, and that is beautiful").<br />
*Puppet Homestar (and [[Marshie]]) joined They Might Be Giants onstage in Atlanta for their [[TMBG Concert - 25 Sep 2004|September 25, 2004 concert]].<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.tmbg.com/ TMBG.com] (the official site)<br />
*[http://www.theymightbegiants.com/ TheyMightBeGiants.com] (the official online music store)<br />
*[http://www.tmbw.net/ This Might Be A Wiki]<br />
*The TMBG [[Wikipedia:They Might Be Giants|Wikipedia entry]] <br />
[[Category: Bands]][[Category:People]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Whaddaya_Know,_Haddi-Man%3F
Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?
2005-02-01T17:54:35Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Similarities to Real Shows */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:Whaddaya_Know_Haddi-man.png|thumb|right|220px|"I'm a trendy totebag!"]]<br />
'''Whaddya Know, Haddi-Man?''' is a kids' show starring [[Homsar]] that was introduced in the email "[[for kids]]." [[Strong Bad]] thinks that children who were raised on this crap would have low standardized test scores and subsequently would be held back to repeat the third grade.<br />
<br />
== Theme Song Lyrics ==<br />
<br />
'''"KIDS" VOICES''': Whaddya Know, Haddi-Man?<br />
<br />
We'll have an adventure<br><br />
and several long trips<br><br />
We'll make some new friends<br><br />
And maybe grab a bite to eat!<br />
<br />
All 'cause we say....<br><br />
'''"KIDS" VOICES''': Whaddya Know, Haddi-Man?<br />
<br />
== Counting Song Lyrics ==<br />
<br />
Stave It Off<br />
<br />
1 2 3<br />
<br />
And Now You Can Count To Three.<br />
<br />
== Letter of the Day ==<br />
Each episode has a letter of the day, apparently. In the first episode, (and currently the only episode) the letter is G. According to Homsar, it's a healthy piece of real estate.<br />
<br />
== Similarities to Real Shows ==<br />
*Seems to feature a specific letter, like "Sesame Street"<br />
*Contains unrelated educational cartoons, again like "Sesame Street"<br />
*The theme song suggests adventure, which is a common theme in kids' shows these days.<br />
*Repetitive, like "Teletubbies" (Counting Song was repeated fifty times (only a couple of which we saw before Strong Bad cut away)).<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Category: Songs]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/origins
origins
2005-01-31T21:35:35Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Remarks */ Strong Bad fooled me by calling Luke "Claire" at the end.</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:bellybutton.PNG|thumb|Other origins.]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #123'''<br />
<br />
Strong Bad discusses the hangingoutitude of [[The Stick]].<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Little Strong Bad]], [[Señor]], [[Mr. Bland]], [[Bubs]], [[The Stick]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homsar]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The King of Town]]<br />
<br />
'''Date:''' January 31, 2005<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' This email is leaving the station. Please move to the center of the email and away from the doors.<br />
<br />
<pre>subject: a sticky question...<br />
Dear Strong bad,<br />
I have recently been wondering about the origin of the<br />
stick. Has it always been a good place for hanging out and<br />
making rendezvous?<br />
<br />
Luke, Eau Claire, WI</pre><br />
<br />
''{he pronounces 'rendezvous' as 'rendezvouuuu-ses', and the bottom line as 'Luke, ewww Claire, why?'}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! Why do you Van Peebles always wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing? Like, do you wanna know how Strong Sad got his belly button too?<br />
<br />
''{cut to a young Strong Bad's birthday; a sign reads 'Happy Birthday Lil Strong Bad'. Strong Bad has a black shirt with a yellow truck on it, and is looking at a white present with a blue ribbon and a tag reading 'To Strong Bad From Mom or Dad'. He grabs the lid and takes it off to reveal a power drill.}''<br />
<br />
'''LIL STRONG BAD:''' ''{lifting the drill}'' Oh, awesome! ''{he revs the drill}''<br />
<br />
''{cut back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears the screen}'' Or, like, the origin of Bubs' Concession Stand?<br />
<br />
''{Original Book style. Señor and Mr. Bland stand in flat greenness, and Strong Bad's words are subtitled.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Señor Havin' A Little Trouble and Mr. Bland were by far the most popular characters.<br />
<br />
''{a red Stand falls on them with a splurt!}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Then, they were crushed by a falling Bubs' Concession Stand.<br />
<br />
''{Bubs appears in it, waving}''<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' Hot time!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' said Bubs.<br />
<br />
''{back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I'm not gonna show you those things. Or the origin of the stick. But I will indulge your curiousity ''{misspelt, but pronounced correctly}'' about the stick's hangingoutitude. It currently rates a 10, but such was not always the case. Like when Homestar used to hold his weekly ''{sounding disturbed, and the words turn green and jiggle on screen}'' bread sing-alongs, ''{back to normal}'' we avoided that place like the plegg! ''{deletes up to the 'p'}'' plague!<br />
<br />
''{cut to The Stick, where Homestar Runner is surrounded by bread. He is holding a slice and waving it around while marching on the spot}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' Bread is a good time for me, woo-oo-doo singing, bread is a good time for everybody!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; Homestar keeps peeking out around the bread slice}'' We sure sniped that problem right between the eyes from three hundred yards by scheduling The Cheat's rhythmic chain dancing recitals for the same time and place.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad and Strong Mad stand in the background while The Cheat, dressed in a blue suit, swingings a chain around, hitting Homestar's face and the bread. Homestar has acquired a sign reading 'Come On & Sing.'}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing, despite being hit in the face}'' I cut the crusts off in the morning light...<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clapping; The Cheat picks up a slice of bread and twirls it while making The Cheat noises}'' He's quite good.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG MAD:''' LUNCH BREAK!<br />
<br />
''{back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' After a couple of minutes, the popularity of Homestar's sing-alongs faded and Strong Mad ate The Cheat's chainwhip. So that's when the stick became a great place to spraypaint Marzipan.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat by The Stick spraying at Marizpan's dress, which has a picture of a steak and 'St8k DiNNeR' written on it graffiti-style}''<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' To me, this is something that losers would do.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, this is gonna be my freshest piece yet.<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Mad, that looks like cooking spray.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! Aw, that's some never-forgive action right there.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; the scene darkens slightly}'' But spraypainting people isn't very much fun when they stand there and make fun of you.<br />
<br />
''{cut to Marzipan standing by The Stick with an upside-down Homsar stuck to her head, at night; a wolf howls}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I super-glued her to Hhh-Homsar, and left them for dead.<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooh, I think I hear wolves coming.<br />
<br />
'''HOMSAR:''' I'm a human wedgie.<br />
<br />
''{Homestar marches in, holding a load of bread}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' .. don't ask me why, pumpernickel and rye.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' In order to properly leave them for dead, and not keep hanging around them for dead, we relocated to behind Bubs' ''{cut to Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat behind Bubs' Concession Stand with an exhaust and a pipe, and a crown with 'On Point' spraypainted on the wall}'' and started calling ourselves the On Point Kings. We'd take no guff from nobody.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{to The Cheat}'' Hey man, I know what it means. I was just seeing if you knew.<br />
<br />
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes frustrated The Cheat noises}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walking in}'' Have you guys seen my moleskin journal?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{producing the power drill}'' You want another belly button there, Harry Elephanté?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{starts}'' Woah! No sir! Heck no at all! ''{runs away}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws drill away}'' Man, did you guys see me refuse to take that guff? I flat out rejected it! That guff never even had a chance! ''{pulls out a file and starts filing his gloves}'' Ah, that's what being an On Point King is all about.<br />
<br />
'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{walks in with a blue dunce cap on}'' I hear somebody mention a pointy king? ''{nods his hat}'' Doink doink?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Heck no at all!<br />
<br />
''{back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' So ya see Claire, if it weren't for the stick, and Marzipan's considerable resistance to death, the On Point Kings may never have stolen the King of Town's dunce cap and renamed it Lotionman. {''a little embarrassed, and stutters his 'd' (not typed)}'' D-Don't ask, it was Strong Mad's idea. Well, I hope that makes you not email me anymore.<br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''<br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
<br />
* Click on "Eau Claire WI" to view Beverly Sportsinterview's book "Ewww..Claire!! Why???"<br />
* Click on "dunce" at the end to see and hear an album of Homestar's Bread Sing-alongs.<br />
** Keep clicking the CD cover to hear different songs. The three songs he sings are the same as the ones from the email.<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Remarks===<br />
*Strong Bad makes fun of the email author for a mistake he didn't commit; the plural form of the word ''rendezvous'' is spelled the same as the singular, not ''rendezvouses''. The plural can be pronounced either /'''ron'''-day-voo/ (which is also the same as the singular) or /'''ron'''-day-vooz/.<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*We last saw the [[smashed muffler]] in [[no loafing]].<br />
*The drill noise was first heard in [[privileges]].<br />
*The appearance of Homestar's Bread Singalongs CD is similar to Strong Bad's Rhythm 'N' Grammar as seen at the end of [[local news]]. Oddly enough, Homestar's eyes still blink on the CD cover.<br />
* The "On Point Kings" may be a reference to email number 81, "[[date]]", where Marzipan says "Strong Bad is On Point" in Strong Bad's "H*R and Marzipan Dating Simulation XR".<br />
* The lyrics "don't ask me why" are from [[Everybody Knows It]].<br />
<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*Strong Bad's introduction to the email is likely a reference to the automated voice systems commonly used on subway trains.<br />
*Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]], is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Beverly Cleary|Beverly Cleary]], an author for children and young adults.<br />
*[[Wikipedia:Moleskine|Moleskine]] is a brand of pocket notebooks and sketch pads popular among trend-following artists and writers. Strong Sad mistakenly pronounces it "mole skin", whereas the correct pronunciation is "mol-a-skeen'-a".<br />
*"Harry Elephante" is most likely a reference to famous calypso musician [[Wikipedia:Harry Belafonte|Harry Belafonte]].<br />
*"Van Peebles" is a reference to famous blaxploitation filmmaker/singer [[Wikipedia:Melvin Van Peebles|Melvin Van Peebles]], most famous for directing the film [[Wikipedia:Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song|Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song]], or to his son Mario Van Peebles, actor/director known for movies like New Jack City and Rappin'.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.html view "origins"]<br><br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.swf view the flash file for "origins"]<br />
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1907 forum thread re: "origins"]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Lappy 486 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Bubs Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Marzipan Filmography]][[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]][[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:The King of Town Filmography]][[Category:Homsar Filmography]][[Category:Señor Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/origins
origins
2005-01-31T21:26:16Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Trivia */ minor fix to previous</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:bellybutton.PNG|thumb|Other origins.]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #123'''<br />
<br />
Strong Bad discusses the hangingoutitude of [[The Stick]].<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Little Strong Bad]], [[Señor]], [[Mr. Bland]], [[Bubs]], [[The Stick]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homsar]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The King of Town]]<br />
<br />
'''Date:''' January 31, 2005<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' This email is leaving the station. Please move to the center of the email and away from the doors.<br />
<br />
<pre>subject: a sticky question...<br />
Dear Strong bad,<br />
I have recently been wondering about the origin of the<br />
stick. Has it always been a good place for hanging out and<br />
making rendezvous?<br />
<br />
Luke, Eau Claire, WI</pre><br />
<br />
''{he pronounces 'rendezvous' as 'rendezvouuuu-ses', and the bottom line as 'Luke, ewww Claire, why?'}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! Why do you Van Peebles always wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing? Like, do you wanna know how Strong Sad got his belly button too?<br />
<br />
''{cut to a young Strong Bad's birthday; a sign reads 'Happy Birthday Lil Strong Bad'. Strong Bad has a black shirt with a yellow truck on it, and is looking at a white present with a blue ribbon and a tag reading 'To Strong Bad From Mom or Dad'. He grabs the lid and takes it off to reveal a power drill.}''<br />
<br />
'''LIL STRONG BAD:''' ''{lifting the drill}'' Oh, awesome! ''{he revs the drill}''<br />
<br />
''{cut back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears the screen}'' Or, like, the origin of Bubs' Concession Stand?<br />
<br />
''{Original Book style. Señor and Mr. Bland stand in flat greenness, and Strong Bad's words are subtitled.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Señor Havin' A Little Trouble and Mr. Bland were by far the most popular characters.<br />
<br />
''{a red Stand falls on them with a splurt!}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Then, they were crushed by a falling Bubs' Concession Stand.<br />
<br />
''{Bubs appears in it, waving}''<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' Hot time!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' said Bubs.<br />
<br />
''{back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I'm not gonna show you those things. Or the origin of the stick. But I will indulge your curiousity ''{misspelt, but pronounced correctly}'' about the stick's hangingoutitude. It currently rates a 10, but such was not always the case. Like when Homestar used to hold his weekly ''{sounding disturbed, and the words turn green and jiggle on screen}'' bread sing-alongs, ''{back to normal}'' we avoided that place like the plegg! ''{deletes up to the 'p'}'' plague!<br />
<br />
''{cut to The Stick, where Homestar Runner is surrounded by bread. He is holding a slice and waving it around while marching on the spot}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' Bread is a good time for me, woo-oo-doo singing, bread is a good time for everybody!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; Homestar keeps peeking out around the bread slice}'' We sure sniped that problem right between the eyes from three hundred yards by scheduling The Cheat's rhythmic chain dancing recitals for the same time and place.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad and Strong Mad stand in the background while The Cheat, dressed in a blue suit, swingings a chain around, hitting Homestar's face and the bread. Homestar has acquired a sign reading 'Come On & Sing.'}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing, despite being hit in the face}'' I cut the crusts off in the morning light...<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clapping; The Cheat picks up a slice of bread and twirls it while making The Cheat noises}'' He's quite good.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG MAD:''' LUNCH BREAK!<br />
<br />
''{back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' After a couple of minutes, the popularity of Homestar's sing-alongs faded and Strong Mad ate The Cheat's chainwhip. So that's when the stick became a great place to spraypaint Marzipan.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat by The Stick spraying at Marizpan's dress, which has a picture of a steak and 'St8k DiNNeR' written on it graffiti-style}''<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' To me, this is something that losers would do.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, this is gonna be my freshest piece yet.<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Mad, that looks like cooking spray.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! Aw, that's some never-forgive action right there.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; the scene darkens slightly}'' But spraypainting people isn't very much fun when they stand there and make fun of you.<br />
<br />
''{cut to Marzipan standing by The Stick with an upside-down Homsar stuck to her head, at night; a wolf howls}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I super-glued her to Hhh-Homsar, and left them for dead.<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooh, I think I hear wolves coming.<br />
<br />
'''HOMSAR:''' I'm a human wedgie.<br />
<br />
''{Homestar marches in, holding a load of bread}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' .. don't ask me why, pumpernickel and rye.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' In order to properly leave them for dead, and not keep hanging around them for dead, we relocated to behind Bubs' ''{cut to Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat behind Bubs' Concession Stand with an exhaust and a pipe, and a crown with 'On Point' spraypainted on the wall}'' and started calling ourselves the On Point Kings. We'd take no guff from nobody.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{to The Cheat}'' Hey man, I know what it means. I was just seeing if you knew.<br />
<br />
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes frustrated The Cheat noises}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walking in}'' Have you guys seen my moleskin journal?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{producing the power drill}'' You want another belly button there, Harry Elephanté?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{starts}'' Woah! No sir! Heck no at all! ''{runs away}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws drill away}'' Man, did you guys see me refuse to take that guff? I flat out rejected it! That guff never even had a chance! ''{pulls out a file and starts filing his gloves}'' Ah, that's what being an On Point King is all about.<br />
<br />
'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{walks in with a blue dunce cap on}'' I hear somebody mention a pointy king? ''{nods his hat}'' Doink doink?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Heck no at all!<br />
<br />
''{back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' So ya see Claire, if it weren't for the stick, and Marzipan's considerable resistance to death, the On Point Kings may never have stolen the King of Town's dunce cap and renamed it Lotionman. {''a little embarrassed, and stutters his 'd' (not typed)}'' D-Don't ask, it was Strong Mad's idea. Well, I hope that makes you not email me anymore.<br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''<br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
<br />
* Click on "Eau Claire WI" to view Beverly Sportsinterview's book "Ewww..Claire!! Why???"<br />
* Click on "dunce" at the end to see and hear an album of Homestar's Bread Sing-alongs.<br />
** Keep clicking the CD cover to hear different songs. The three songs he sings are the same as the ones from the email.<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*Strong Bad makes fun of the email author for a mistake she didn't commit; the plural form of the word ''rendezvous'' is spelled the same as the singular, not ''rendezvouses''. The plural can be pronounced /'''ron'''-day-voo/, which is also the same as the singular, or it can be pronounced /'''ron'''-day-vooz/.<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*We last saw the [[smashed muffler]] in [[no loafing]].<br />
*The drill noise was first heard in [[privileges]].<br />
*The appearance of Homestar's Bread Singalongs CD is similar to Strong Bad's Rhythm 'N' Grammar as seen at the end of [[local news]]. Oddly enough, Homestar's eyes still blink on the CD cover.<br />
* The "On Point Kings" may be a reference to email number 81, "[[date]]", where Marzipan says "Strong Bad is On Point" in Strong Bad's "H*R and Marzipan Dating Simulation XR".<br />
* The lyrics "don't ask me why" are from [[Everybody Knows It]].<br />
* This is the first time the Brothers Chaps have ever made a reference to Strong Bad's parents. (the tag on Baby Strong Bad's present)<br />
<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*Strong Bad's introduction to the email is likely a reference to the automated voice systems commonly used on subway trains, especially those found at large airports.<br />
*Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]], is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Beverly Cleary|Beverly Cleary]], an author for children and young adults.<br />
*Both Pumpernickel and Rye have caraway seeds, hence "Don't ask me why/Pumpernickel and Rye"<br />
*[[Wikipedia:Moleskine|Moleskine]] is a brand of pocket notebooks and sketch pads popular among trend-following artists and writers. Strong Sad mistakenly pronounces it "mole skin", whereas the correct pronunciation is "mol-a-skeen'-a".<br />
*"Harry Elephante" is most likely a reference to famous calypso musician [[Wikipedia:Harry Belafonte|Harry Belafonte]]. It may also refer to "Monsieur Elegante", Strong Bad's fantasy monicker in [[dreamail]].<br />
*"Van Peebles" is a reference to famous blaxploitation filmmaker/singer [[Wikipedia:Melvin Van Peebles|Melvin Van Peebles]], most famous for directing the film [[Wikipedia:Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song|Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song]], or to his son Mario Van Peebles, actor/director known for movies like New Jack City and Rappin'.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.html view "origins"]<br><br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.swf view the flash file for "origins"]<br />
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1907 forum thread re: "origins"]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Lappy 486 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Bubs Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Marzipan Filmography]][[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]][[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:The King of Town Filmography]][[Category:Homsar Filmography]][[Category:Señor Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/origins
origins
2005-01-31T21:25:40Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Fun Facts */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:bellybutton.PNG|thumb|Other origins.]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #123'''<br />
<br />
Strong Bad discusses the hangingoutitude of [[The Stick]].<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Little Strong Bad]], [[Señor]], [[Mr. Bland]], [[Bubs]], [[The Stick]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homsar]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The King of Town]]<br />
<br />
'''Date:''' January 31, 2005<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' This email is leaving the station. Please move to the center of the email and away from the doors.<br />
<br />
<pre>subject: a sticky question...<br />
Dear Strong bad,<br />
I have recently been wondering about the origin of the<br />
stick. Has it always been a good place for hanging out and<br />
making rendezvous?<br />
<br />
Luke, Eau Claire, WI</pre><br />
<br />
''{he pronounces 'rendezvous' as 'rendezvouuuu-ses', and the bottom line as 'Luke, ewww Claire, why?'}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! Why do you Van Peebles always wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing? Like, do you wanna know how Strong Sad got his belly button too?<br />
<br />
''{cut to a young Strong Bad's birthday; a sign reads 'Happy Birthday Lil Strong Bad'. Strong Bad has a black shirt with a yellow truck on it, and is looking at a white present with a blue ribbon and a tag reading 'To Strong Bad From Mom or Dad'. He grabs the lid and takes it off to reveal a power drill.}''<br />
<br />
'''LIL STRONG BAD:''' ''{lifting the drill}'' Oh, awesome! ''{he revs the drill}''<br />
<br />
''{cut back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears the screen}'' Or, like, the origin of Bubs' Concession Stand?<br />
<br />
''{Original Book style. Señor and Mr. Bland stand in flat greenness, and Strong Bad's words are subtitled.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Señor Havin' A Little Trouble and Mr. Bland were by far the most popular characters.<br />
<br />
''{a red Stand falls on them with a splurt!}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Then, they were crushed by a falling Bubs' Concession Stand.<br />
<br />
''{Bubs appears in it, waving}''<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' Hot time!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' said Bubs.<br />
<br />
''{back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I'm not gonna show you those things. Or the origin of the stick. But I will indulge your curiousity ''{misspelt, but pronounced correctly}'' about the stick's hangingoutitude. It currently rates a 10, but such was not always the case. Like when Homestar used to hold his weekly ''{sounding disturbed, and the words turn green and jiggle on screen}'' bread sing-alongs, ''{back to normal}'' we avoided that place like the plegg! ''{deletes up to the 'p'}'' plague!<br />
<br />
''{cut to The Stick, where Homestar Runner is surrounded by bread. He is holding a slice and waving it around while marching on the spot}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' Bread is a good time for me, woo-oo-doo singing, bread is a good time for everybody!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; Homestar keeps peeking out around the bread slice}'' We sure sniped that problem right between the eyes from three hundred yards by scheduling The Cheat's rhythmic chain dancing recitals for the same time and place.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad and Strong Mad stand in the background while The Cheat, dressed in a blue suit, swingings a chain around, hitting Homestar's face and the bread. Homestar has acquired a sign reading 'Come On & Sing.'}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing, despite being hit in the face}'' I cut the crusts off in the morning light...<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clapping; The Cheat picks up a slice of bread and twirls it while making The Cheat noises}'' He's quite good.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG MAD:''' LUNCH BREAK!<br />
<br />
''{back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' After a couple of minutes, the popularity of Homestar's sing-alongs faded and Strong Mad ate The Cheat's chainwhip. So that's when the stick became a great place to spraypaint Marzipan.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat by The Stick spraying at Marizpan's dress, which has a picture of a steak and 'St8k DiNNeR' written on it graffiti-style}''<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' To me, this is something that losers would do.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, this is gonna be my freshest piece yet.<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Mad, that looks like cooking spray.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! Aw, that's some never-forgive action right there.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; the scene darkens slightly}'' But spraypainting people isn't very much fun when they stand there and make fun of you.<br />
<br />
''{cut to Marzipan standing by The Stick with an upside-down Homsar stuck to her head, at night; a wolf howls}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I super-glued her to Hhh-Homsar, and left them for dead.<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooh, I think I hear wolves coming.<br />
<br />
'''HOMSAR:''' I'm a human wedgie.<br />
<br />
''{Homestar marches in, holding a load of bread}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' .. don't ask me why, pumpernickel and rye.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' In order to properly leave them for dead, and not keep hanging around them for dead, we relocated to behind Bubs' ''{cut to Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat behind Bubs' Concession Stand with an exhaust and a pipe, and a crown with 'On Point' spraypainted on the wall}'' and started calling ourselves the On Point Kings. We'd take no guff from nobody.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{to The Cheat}'' Hey man, I know what it means. I was just seeing if you knew.<br />
<br />
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes frustrated The Cheat noises}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walking in}'' Have you guys seen my moleskin journal?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{producing the power drill}'' You want another belly button there, Harry Elephanté?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{starts}'' Woah! No sir! Heck no at all! ''{runs away}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws drill away}'' Man, did you guys see me refuse to take that guff? I flat out rejected it! That guff never even had a chance! ''{pulls out a file and starts filing his gloves}'' Ah, that's what being an On Point King is all about.<br />
<br />
'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{walks in with a blue dunce cap on}'' I hear somebody mention a pointy king? ''{nods his hat}'' Doink doink?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Heck no at all!<br />
<br />
''{back to the Lappy}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' So ya see Claire, if it weren't for the stick, and Marzipan's considerable resistance to death, the On Point Kings may never have stolen the King of Town's dunce cap and renamed it Lotionman. {''a little embarrassed, and stutters his 'd' (not typed)}'' D-Don't ask, it was Strong Mad's idea. Well, I hope that makes you not email me anymore.<br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''<br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
<br />
* Click on "Eau Claire WI" to view Beverly Sportsinterview's book "Ewww..Claire!! Why???"<br />
* Click on "dunce" at the end to see and hear an album of Homestar's Bread Sing-alongs.<br />
** Keep clicking the CD cover to hear different songs. The three songs he sings are the same as the ones from the email.<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*Strong Bad makes fun of the email author for a mistake she didn't commit; the plural form of the word ''rendezvous'' is spelled the same as the singular, not ''rendezvouses''. The plural can be pronounced /'''ron'''-day-voo/, which is also the same as the singular, or it can be pronounced /'''ron'''-day-vouz/.<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*We last saw the [[smashed muffler]] in [[no loafing]].<br />
*The drill noise was first heard in [[privileges]].<br />
*The appearance of Homestar's Bread Singalongs CD is similar to Strong Bad's Rhythm 'N' Grammar as seen at the end of [[local news]]. Oddly enough, Homestar's eyes still blink on the CD cover.<br />
* The "On Point Kings" may be a reference to email number 81, "[[date]]", where Marzipan says "Strong Bad is On Point" in Strong Bad's "H*R and Marzipan Dating Simulation XR".<br />
* The lyrics "don't ask me why" are from [[Everybody Knows It]].<br />
* This is the first time the Brothers Chaps have ever made a reference to Strong Bad's parents. (the tag on Baby Strong Bad's present)<br />
<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*Strong Bad's introduction to the email is likely a reference to the automated voice systems commonly used on subway trains, especially those found at large airports.<br />
*Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]], is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Beverly Cleary|Beverly Cleary]], an author for children and young adults.<br />
*Both Pumpernickel and Rye have caraway seeds, hence "Don't ask me why/Pumpernickel and Rye"<br />
*[[Wikipedia:Moleskine|Moleskine]] is a brand of pocket notebooks and sketch pads popular among trend-following artists and writers. Strong Sad mistakenly pronounces it "mole skin", whereas the correct pronunciation is "mol-a-skeen'-a".<br />
*"Harry Elephante" is most likely a reference to famous calypso musician [[Wikipedia:Harry Belafonte|Harry Belafonte]]. It may also refer to "Monsieur Elegante", Strong Bad's fantasy monicker in [[dreamail]].<br />
*"Van Peebles" is a reference to famous blaxploitation filmmaker/singer [[Wikipedia:Melvin Van Peebles|Melvin Van Peebles]], most famous for directing the film [[Wikipedia:Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song|Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song]], or to his son Mario Van Peebles, actor/director known for movies like New Jack City and Rappin'.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.html view "origins"]<br><br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.swf view the flash file for "origins"]<br />
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1907 forum thread re: "origins"]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Lappy 486 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Bubs Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Marzipan Filmography]][[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]][[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:The King of Town Filmography]][[Category:Homsar Filmography]][[Category:Señor Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/ZIP_Codes
ZIP Codes
2005-01-31T15:14:30Z
<p>68.15.244.8: </p>
<hr />
<div>Several real and fake '''zip codes''' are used throughout the Homestar Runner site. These include:<br />
<br />
*'''30307'''<br />
:This is the zip code on the contact page. According to [http://acg.media.mit.edu/people/fry/zipdecode/ Zipdecode], that's Atlanta, Georgia, home town of [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps]].<br />
<br />
*'''30356'''<br />
:This is the zip code given for [[Harmless Junk, Inc.]], the legitimate face of the Chapman Brothers.<br />
<br />
*'''2x2x2'''<br />
:Used for the [[Store|store]] questions. This of course is not a real zip code.<br />
<br />
*'''80808'''<br />
:Used for the FAQ. This code is for Calhan, CO. &mdash; not [[Mundelow]], PA.<br />
<br />
*'''642T2'''<br />
:If you check the ZIP code on the FAQ envelope below "Without having to email, US", it is 642T2, which seems to be a reference to the [[Strong Bad Sings]] cartoon. At the end, the announcer says to call 1-800-428-64 [[Tooty-two|tooty-two]].<br />
<br />
[[Category: Inside Jokes]]<br />
[[Category: Places]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/action_figure
action figure
2005-01-30T20:35:50Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Real-World References */ combined two similar items into one and made a list</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:sbemail42.PNG|thumb|Smells like peanut action!]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #42'''<br />
<br />
Somebody asks Strong Bad what he would look like as an action figure.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]]<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' Doo doo do doo, doo duh doo DOO! <br />
<br />
''{reading}''<br />
<br />
<pre>Hey Strong Bad,<br />
<br />
If someone made a Strong Bad action figure, what kind of awesome stuff would it be able to do?<br />
<br />
Kyle Rechsteiner<br />
San Mateo, CA</pre><br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad says "Can Mateo, Scan Mateos".}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' Oh man, Kyle. My action figure would have it all. First of all:<br />
<br />
''{cut to a screen where Strong Bad's action figure appears as he details it}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' It'd look exactly like me...<br />
<br />
''{the action figure first appears; it is considerably taller, buffer, and with a much smaller head than the actual Strong Bad}''<br />
<br />
...you know, in terms of his physique, and the relative size of his head to his body, it'd be exactly the same. And of course I'd come armed to the teeth with my Chinese throwing croissant! Then, I'd be able to shoot sparks from my mouth, you know like, khfkhfkhffffkhfk, it'd make a noise like that. And when you push down on my head, there'd be PFF! Double deuce action! And then of course, you could take the head off, too, and there'd be a hole where you could pour like, motor oil, or grapefruit juice, or whatever kinda junk you wanna put in there. And then, turn out the lights, glow-in-the-dark abs, man! Oh! Oh! And get it wet, and you get SEVERE KNIFE FIGHT DAMAGE, like magic appears! But that's not all! UH-OH! ''{the action figure's leg falls off}'' Battle damage! And finally, switch to the dispenser fist to ooze radioactive goo!<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to the Compy 386}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' I think those things would sell like hotcakes, man. Ooh! Especially if they SMELLED like hotcakes! Anyways, I tried to make one of my own one time and it didn't turn out as good as my imagination.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad holds up a peanut with pipe cleaners for arms and a painted face with cheap plastic glue-on eyes}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Basically all it has is... smells-like-peanut action. I'm lookin' for some licensees. <br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad starts playing with the action figure}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Doo doo doooo! ''{starts speaking for the figure}'' Hey Homestar, get away from here! Holy crap!<br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''<br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
* At the end you can click on the ugly Peanut Strong Bad and see the package of the cool Strong Bad action figure. Keep clicking to see some more characters as action figures. The characters and package blurbs are:<br />
** Strong Bad<br />
*** Exciting Action Man!<br />
*** Chinese Throwing Croissant!<br />
*** Severe Double Deuce Action!<br />
*** Smells Like Hotcakes!<br />
**** If you zoom in on it, you'll see that the "M" is partially transposed over the "E". In fact, the entire "smells like hotcakes" sticker has poorly spaced text, perhaps due to a missing font when the flash file was created.<br />
** Coach Z<br />
*** Green Colored Hero!<br />
*** High-Pitched Super Sonic Whistle!<br />
*** Butt-Patting Action<br />
** Strong Mad<br />
*** Action Toy!<br />
*** He's The Biggest One!<br />
*** Friends With The Cheat!<br />
** Pom Pom<br />
*** Action Fighting Guy!<br />
*** Secret Cell Phone!<br />
*** The Ladies Choice!<br />
** Strong Sad<br />
*** Action-Like Figurine!<br />
*** Atomic Calligraphy Pen!<br />
*** Extreme Whining And Crying!<br />
** Homestar<br />
*** Super Action Doll<br />
*** Spiked Battle Marshmallows<br />
*** No Arms! Like Real Life!<br />
** Peanut Strong Bad<br />
*** Homemade Peanut Warrior<br />
*** Museum Quality<br />
*** Smells Like Peanut Action!<br />
* All the toys are made by [[Cheap as Free]] Toys, are for ages 3-5, and cost $11.01.<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
* After [[sb_email 22]], this is the second time that Strong Bad does not say the word "email" before checking the email.<br />
*All of the toys are labeled $11.01. They are priced this way because [[Matt Chapman]]'s birthday is November 1st. (This was revealed by [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] in the [[flag day]] [[flag_day#Commentary_Transcript|commentary]].)<br />
===Remarks===<br />
*At the beginning, Strong Bad is humming the same tune that is in the background when it shows the action figures.<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The "Chinese Throwing Croissant" is likely a reference to the end of [[3 Wishes]], when Strong Bad starts to ramble on about how the horns in his drawing look like croissants and how he'd really like one right about now.<br />
*When you push on its head, it supposedly has "Double Deuce" action. This is referring to [[the bird]].<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*All of the action figures are modeled strongly after the Masters of the Universe (i.e. He-Man) line. In particular, they all have:<br />
**Identical bodies from the same toy mold with a different head and paint job for different characters (except Strong Mad)<br />
**Exaggerated muscles<br />
**Limited poses and movement (except for rotating limbs)<br />
*"He's the Biggest One!" could be a reference to the They Might Be Giants song "The Biggest One" in which the narrator says (wait for it) "I'm the biggest one."<br />
*The sparking mouth was actually used in some 80's toys, such as the Ghostbusters Banshee.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail42.html watch "action figure"]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail42.swf view the flash file for "action figure"]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/action_figure
action figure
2005-01-30T20:33:20Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Real-World References */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:sbemail42.PNG|thumb|Smells like peanut action!]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #42'''<br />
<br />
Somebody asks Strong Bad what he would look like as an action figure.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]]<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' Doo doo do doo, doo duh doo DOO! <br />
<br />
''{reading}''<br />
<br />
<pre>Hey Strong Bad,<br />
<br />
If someone made a Strong Bad action figure, what kind of awesome stuff would it be able to do?<br />
<br />
Kyle Rechsteiner<br />
San Mateo, CA</pre><br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad says "Can Mateo, Scan Mateos".}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' Oh man, Kyle. My action figure would have it all. First of all:<br />
<br />
''{cut to a screen where Strong Bad's action figure appears as he details it}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' It'd look exactly like me...<br />
<br />
''{the action figure first appears; it is considerably taller, buffer, and with a much smaller head than the actual Strong Bad}''<br />
<br />
...you know, in terms of his physique, and the relative size of his head to his body, it'd be exactly the same. And of course I'd come armed to the teeth with my Chinese throwing croissant! Then, I'd be able to shoot sparks from my mouth, you know like, khfkhfkhffffkhfk, it'd make a noise like that. And when you push down on my head, there'd be PFF! Double deuce action! And then of course, you could take the head off, too, and there'd be a hole where you could pour like, motor oil, or grapefruit juice, or whatever kinda junk you wanna put in there. And then, turn out the lights, glow-in-the-dark abs, man! Oh! Oh! And get it wet, and you get SEVERE KNIFE FIGHT DAMAGE, like magic appears! But that's not all! UH-OH! ''{the action figure's leg falls off}'' Battle damage! And finally, switch to the dispenser fist to ooze radioactive goo!<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to the Compy 386}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' I think those things would sell like hotcakes, man. Ooh! Especially if they SMELLED like hotcakes! Anyways, I tried to make one of my own one time and it didn't turn out as good as my imagination.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad holds up a peanut with pipe cleaners for arms and a painted face with cheap plastic glue-on eyes}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Basically all it has is... smells-like-peanut action. I'm lookin' for some licensees. <br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad starts playing with the action figure}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Doo doo doooo! ''{starts speaking for the figure}'' Hey Homestar, get away from here! Holy crap!<br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''<br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
* At the end you can click on the ugly Peanut Strong Bad and see the package of the cool Strong Bad action figure. Keep clicking to see some more characters as action figures. The characters and package blurbs are:<br />
** Strong Bad<br />
*** Exciting Action Man!<br />
*** Chinese Throwing Croissant!<br />
*** Severe Double Deuce Action!<br />
*** Smells Like Hotcakes!<br />
**** If you zoom in on it, you'll see that the "M" is partially transposed over the "E". In fact, the entire "smells like hotcakes" sticker has poorly spaced text, perhaps due to a missing font when the flash file was created.<br />
** Coach Z<br />
*** Green Colored Hero!<br />
*** High-Pitched Super Sonic Whistle!<br />
*** Butt-Patting Action<br />
** Strong Mad<br />
*** Action Toy!<br />
*** He's The Biggest One!<br />
*** Friends With The Cheat!<br />
** Pom Pom<br />
*** Action Fighting Guy!<br />
*** Secret Cell Phone!<br />
*** The Ladies Choice!<br />
** Strong Sad<br />
*** Action-Like Figurine!<br />
*** Atomic Calligraphy Pen!<br />
*** Extreme Whining And Crying!<br />
** Homestar<br />
*** Super Action Doll<br />
*** Spiked Battle Marshmallows<br />
*** No Arms! Like Real Life!<br />
** Peanut Strong Bad<br />
*** Homemade Peanut Warrior<br />
*** Museum Quality<br />
*** Smells Like Peanut Action!<br />
* All the toys are made by [[Cheap as Free]] Toys, are for ages 3-5, and cost $11.01.<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
* After [[sb_email 22]], this is the second time that Strong Bad does not say the word "email" before checking the email.<br />
*All of the toys are labeled $11.01. They are priced this way because [[Matt Chapman]]'s birthday is November 1st. (This was revealed by [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] in the [[flag day]] [[flag_day#Commentary_Transcript|commentary]].)<br />
===Remarks===<br />
*At the beginning, Strong Bad is humming the same tune that is in the background when it shows the action figures.<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The "Chinese Throwing Croissant" is likely a reference to the end of [[3 Wishes]], when Strong Bad starts to ramble on about how the horns in his drawing look like croissants and how he'd really like one right about now.<br />
*When you push on its head, it supposedly has "Double Deuce" action. This is referring to [[the bird]].<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*All of the action figures are modeled strongly after the Masters of the Universe (i.e. He-Man) line. In particular, they all have:<br />
**Identical bodies from the same toy mold with a different head and paint job for different characters (except Strong Mad)<br />
**Exaggerated muscles<br />
**Limited poses and movement (except for rotating limbs)<br />
*"He's the Biggest One!" could be a reference to the They Might Be Giants song "The Biggest One" in which the narrator says (wait for it) "I'm the biggest one".<br />
*The sparking mouth was actually used in some 80's toys, such as the Ghostbusters Banshee.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail42.html watch "action figure"]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail42.swf view the flash file for "action figure"]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/action_figure
action figure
2005-01-30T20:30:47Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Easter Eggs */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:sbemail42.PNG|thumb|Smells like peanut action!]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #42'''<br />
<br />
Somebody asks Strong Bad what he would look like as an action figure.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]]<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' Doo doo do doo, doo duh doo DOO! <br />
<br />
''{reading}''<br />
<br />
<pre>Hey Strong Bad,<br />
<br />
If someone made a Strong Bad action figure, what kind of awesome stuff would it be able to do?<br />
<br />
Kyle Rechsteiner<br />
San Mateo, CA</pre><br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad says "Can Mateo, Scan Mateos".}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' Oh man, Kyle. My action figure would have it all. First of all:<br />
<br />
''{cut to a screen where Strong Bad's action figure appears as he details it}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' It'd look exactly like me...<br />
<br />
''{the action figure first appears; it is considerably taller, buffer, and with a much smaller head than the actual Strong Bad}''<br />
<br />
...you know, in terms of his physique, and the relative size of his head to his body, it'd be exactly the same. And of course I'd come armed to the teeth with my Chinese throwing croissant! Then, I'd be able to shoot sparks from my mouth, you know like, khfkhfkhffffkhfk, it'd make a noise like that. And when you push down on my head, there'd be PFF! Double deuce action! And then of course, you could take the head off, too, and there'd be a hole where you could pour like, motor oil, or grapefruit juice, or whatever kinda junk you wanna put in there. And then, turn out the lights, glow-in-the-dark abs, man! Oh! Oh! And get it wet, and you get SEVERE KNIFE FIGHT DAMAGE, like magic appears! But that's not all! UH-OH! ''{the action figure's leg falls off}'' Battle damage! And finally, switch to the dispenser fist to ooze radioactive goo!<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to the Compy 386}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' I think those things would sell like hotcakes, man. Ooh! Especially if they SMELLED like hotcakes! Anyways, I tried to make one of my own one time and it didn't turn out as good as my imagination.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad holds up a peanut with pipe cleaners for arms and a painted face with cheap plastic glue-on eyes}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Basically all it has is... smells-like-peanut action. I'm lookin' for some licensees. <br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad starts playing with the action figure}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Doo doo doooo! ''{starts speaking for the figure}'' Hey Homestar, get away from here! Holy crap!<br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''<br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
* At the end you can click on the ugly Peanut Strong Bad and see the package of the cool Strong Bad action figure. Keep clicking to see some more characters as action figures. The characters and package blurbs are:<br />
** Strong Bad<br />
*** Exciting Action Man!<br />
*** Chinese Throwing Croissant!<br />
*** Severe Double Deuce Action!<br />
*** Smells Like Hotcakes!<br />
**** If you zoom in on it, you'll see that the "M" is partially transposed over the "E". In fact, the entire "smells like hotcakes" sticker has poorly spaced text, perhaps due to a missing font when the flash file was created.<br />
** Coach Z<br />
*** Green Colored Hero!<br />
*** High-Pitched Super Sonic Whistle!<br />
*** Butt-Patting Action<br />
** Strong Mad<br />
*** Action Toy!<br />
*** He's The Biggest One!<br />
*** Friends With The Cheat!<br />
** Pom Pom<br />
*** Action Fighting Guy!<br />
*** Secret Cell Phone!<br />
*** The Ladies Choice!<br />
** Strong Sad<br />
*** Action-Like Figurine!<br />
*** Atomic Calligraphy Pen!<br />
*** Extreme Whining And Crying!<br />
** Homestar<br />
*** Super Action Doll<br />
*** Spiked Battle Marshmallows<br />
*** No Arms! Like Real Life!<br />
** Peanut Strong Bad<br />
*** Homemade Peanut Warrior<br />
*** Museum Quality<br />
*** Smells Like Peanut Action!<br />
* All the toys are made by [[Cheap as Free]] Toys, are for ages 3-5, and cost $11.01.<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
* After [[sb_email 22]], this is the second time that Strong Bad does not say the word "email" before checking the email.<br />
*All of the toys are labeled $11.01. They are priced this way because [[Matt Chapman]]'s birthday is November 1st. (This was revealed by [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] in the [[flag day]] [[flag_day#Commentary_Transcript|commentary]].)<br />
===Remarks===<br />
*At the beginning, Strong Bad is humming the same tune that is in the background when it shows the action figures.<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The "Chinese Throwing Croissant" is likely a reference to the end of [[3 Wishes]], when Strong Bad starts to ramble on about how the horns in his drawing look like croissants and how he'd really like one right about now.<br />
*When you push on its head, it supposedly has "Double Deuce" action. This is referring to [[the bird]].<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*All of the action figures are modeled strongly after the Masters of the Universe line, in the sense that they all have identical bodies.<br />
*"He's the Biggest One!" could be a reference to the They Might Be Giants song "The Biggest One" in which the narrator says (wait for it) "I'm the biggest one".<br />
*The action figures exaggerated muscles, limited poses and movement (except for rotating limbs), and use of the same toy mold with a different head and paint job for different characters closely resembles most 80's action figures, especially He-Man.<br />
*The sparking mouth was actually used in some 80's toys, such as the Ghostbusters Banshee.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail42.html watch "action figure"]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail42.swf view the flash file for "action figure"]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/different_town
different town
2005-01-26T14:23:08Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Trivia */ minor grammar fix</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:sbemail99.png|thumb|Strong Sad with horns and a tail, dressed as the Titan Calibos]]<br />
<br />
'''StrongBadEmail #99'''<br />
<br />
Steven WV writes in and askes Strong Bad what he would change in his town to make it better, and he sings a weirded-out song, in which he describes how he would change the characters. You'll have to see it to find out!<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[Marzipan]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]], [[The King of Town]], [[Bubs]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Coach Z]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[ABA Basketball Pom Pom]], [[Homsar]], [[Modestly Hot Homsar]]<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' Check your email and check your email. ''{still singing, but there is an echo}'' Check check your your email and and check check your your email email ''{stops singing}''<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad presses Enter}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{reading email below}''<br />
<br />
<pre>Dear Strong Bad,<br />
<br />
I just wondering, if you had a chance<br />
to make your town different, what <br />
would you do?<br />
<br />
Sincerley<br />
Steven WV</pre><br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad says Wolksvagen instead of WV}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Pour hot soup in Homestar's eyes, eh, Steven? That sounds like a pretty good- ''{stops typing}'' wait... what'd your email say again?<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad presses a key, and the email appears again}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{mumbling reading sounds}'' Oh. Oh-ho! Sorry.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad presses a key, and starts the reply again}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Make the town different, eh, Steven? ''{breaks into song}'' Weeeeeeelllllll.....<br />
<br />
''{cut to The Poopsmith shoveling poop}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' The Poopsmith, he could talk<br />
<br />
'''THE POOPSMITH''': ''{singing}'' Hello!<br />
<br />
''{screen slides to reveal the right, where Marzipan is dressed in heavy metal garb, holding a guitar decorated with a skeleton pattern, in front of a wall of amplifiers marked 'Marzipan'}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' And Marzipan would rock,<br />
<br />
''{Marzipan wails on her guitar}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the stick}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' And The Stick would be this big old tree that'd try to eat everyone except The Cheat and me --<br />
<br />
'' {Stick turns into a big tree with a scary mouth.}''<br />
<br />
''{a polaroid picture of the tree with Strong Bad (still singing) and The Cheat hanging out with it. Strong Mad appears from behind the left border of the photo and says...}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG MAD''': AND ME!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' We'll see.. ''{Strong Mad looks shocked}'' And The King of Town would be underground in a box filled up with peas...<br />
<br />
''{pan down to reveal a large crate label 'A MILLION PEAS' buried under ground. A cut-out from the crate is taken away to reveal The King Of Town inside surrounded with peas}''<br />
<br />
'''THE KING OF TOWN''': I hate peas!<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad appears in the lower right and says...}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': I know! <br />
<br />
''{cut to Bub's Concession Stand surrounded by flamethrowers and a sign that says 'Please. Take SEVERAL'.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' Bubs would give away flame throwers that shoot chocolate hundred dollar bills...<br />
<br />
'''BUBS''': Imitation chocolate!<br />
<br />
''{pan right to reveal Strong Sad}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' And my stupid baby brother would have been born with horns and a tail...<br />
<br />
''{Strong Sad sprouts horns and a tail}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD''': ''{sadly}'' I'm evil.<br />
<br />
''{pan right to reveal the sports field with Coach Z standing there wearing an orange jacket}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' And Coach Z would wear this cool jacket<br />
<br />
''{Coach Z turns to reveal the back of his jacket which says 'Totally Style' and has a picture of a big thumbs up}''<br />
<br />
'''COACH Z''': Check it out, yo!<br />
<br />
''{pan right to reveal more of the sports field with Homestar Runner standing there}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' And Homestar just couldn't hack it!<br />
<br />
''{Homestar Runner rips the star off the front of his shirt and throws it to the ground, angrily.}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': I quit!<br />
<br />
''{what looks like a collectors card floats into the left of the screen with a picture of Pom Pom making a basket}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' And Pom Pom wouldn't change at all 'cept he'd look like an ABA basketball...<br />
<br />
''{total blackout, fade in close up of Strong Bad's mouth. Zoom out to reveal Strong Bad wearing an undone blue shirt, kind of like Michael Bolton}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''':''{Close up on Strong Bad's foot tapping.}'' two three four ''{singing}'' and this little weirdo<br />
<br />
''{a spotlight turns on to reveal Homsar}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' would be a modestly hot girl...<br />
<br />
''{Homsar silhouettes and transmogrifies into a silhouette of Modestly Hot Homsar}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' ...to help me through the hard times... you know the kind that are only sorta hot so that they don't mess around with other guys!<br />
<br />
''{Modestly Hot Homsar un-silhouettes and is wearing a blue one-piece swimsuit with the word 'homsar' on it. She is wearing Homsar's yellow bowler hat and has brown hair and pink lipstick.}''<br />
<br />
'''MODESTLY HOT HOMSAR''': DaAaAa, I'm forever your girl!<br />
<br />
''{Crowd cheers}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the Computer Room where Strong Bad is standing on his stool}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Thank you! Thank you! Alright! This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album. It's called--<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Strong Sad standing to the right of the computer desk dressed in a light blue tunic wearing horns and a tail}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD''': Hey Strong Bad--<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{off screen}'' WHOA! Can it be true?<br />
<br />
''{Cut to group shot with Strong Bad and Strong Sad standing to the right of the computer. Strong Bad is still standing on his stool.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Did Homestar Runner call it quits? The King of Town, pea-buried alive?! The Poopsmith speaketh?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD''': No... Calm down, spazz. I'm going to the Clash of the Titans Con, dressed up as Calibos, remember? I was just gonna ask if you still wanted that bust of Bubo?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Oh, um. Right. Of course. ''{coughs} {speaking quietly}'' yeah I still want that bust of Bubo.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD''': Ok, bye weirdo. What are you standing on that stool for anyway?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': For your information, I was ''{pause}'' checking on the lights, Strong Sad. We got that recessed lighting, y'know. Yup, everything looks great.<br />
<br />
''{cut back to the computer where Strong Bad continues his reply}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': Yeah, things would be different alright. Though I'm a little disappointed in what I came up with for Homsar. Modestly hot my eye! I think my imagination's broke. ''{stops typing}'' Lemme try and think up the ''{types again}'' Best Thing Ever. Umm... Beef... stew... Yup it's busted alright. I'm gonna go... place. ''{gets up from stool}''<br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''<br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
*The words "eh, Steven?" can be clicked (only the first time SB types them) to show a [[Lem Sportsinterviews]] drawing of [[Eh! Steve]] in formal wear.<br />
*Clicking on "place" at the end brings up a [[Place]] postcard featuring [[Monkey D]]. It reads: "Greetings from PLACE" (Clicking it again closes it.)<br />
*Click on the right side of "back" at the end to download the song.<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
* The music for "Different Town" was written and performed by [[They Might Be Giants]] specially for HomestarRunner.com. <br />
*Although [[Strong Bad]]'s imagination is by no means part of continuity, this is the first and so far only time that [[The Poopsmith]] speaks (if you ignore the hiss in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]).<br />
*After [[your friends]], this is the second (and so far last) e-mail to feature all twelve main characters (though [[Pom-Pom]], like [[The Poopsmith]] in [[your friends]], only appears on a playing card).<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*[[Coach Z]] says "Check it out, yo!" This is a reference to the [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*The "[[Wikipedia:American Basketball Association|ABA]] Basketball" is indeed red, white and blue instead of the [[Wikipedia:National Basketball Association|NBA]] orange. <br />
*"Bubo" was the name of the clockwork owl in the film "Clash of the Titans."<br />
*Wolksvagen is a play on words of the German automobile manufacturer: [[Wikipedia:Volkswagen|Volkswagen]]. The funny pronunciation comes from the fact that in German, the name in pronounced "'''F'''olks'''v'''agen".<br />
*The board behind [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] says "[[Crazy Go Nuts University|CGNU]]" and "DeBry," which is a parody of [http://www.devry.edu/ "DeVry University"].<br />
*The guitar Marzipan is playing is "Mr. Scary," the axe [[Wikipedia:George Lynch|George Lynch]] used during his years with the '80s metal band [[Wikipedia:Dokken|Dokken]].<br />
*The "Marzipan" amps are a play on the ubiquitous [http://www.marshallamps.com/ Marshall Amps], which feature similar styling & font. <br />
*[[Homsar]] says "I'm forever your girl," a quote from the 80's classic "Forever Your Girl" by Paula Abdul.<br />
<br />
== DVD Version ==<br />
*The Eh! Steven Easter Egg is viewable using the angle button on your DVD remote.<br />
*The download link for Different Town has also been disabled for obvious reasons.<br />
*The DVD version features hidden creator's commentary, as well as the ORIGINAL version of the Different Town song, as sung by John Linnell. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail99.html watch "different town"]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail99.swf view the flash file for "different town"]<br />
*download the song: [http://www.homestarrunner.com/songs/differentown.zip Win] [http://www.homestarrunner.com/songs/differentown.sit Mac] (performed by [[They Might Be Giants]])<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]<br />
[[Category:Bubs Filmography]][[Category:Coach Z Filmography]][[Category:Homsar Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Marzipan Filmography]][[Category:Pom Pom Filmography]][[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]][[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:The King of Town Filmography]][[Category:The Poopsmith Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Big_Ol%27_Tree
Big Ol' Tree
2005-01-26T14:19:18Z
<p>68.15.244.8: </p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:bigoltree.png|thumb|right|220px|A big old eating tree]]<br />
<br />
The '''Big Ol' Tree''' is what [[The Stick]] would be if [[Strong Bad]] could make his [[different town| town different]]. This big ol' tree would try to eat up everyone except [[The Cheat]] and him. He is undecided whether the tree will eat [[Strong Mad]] or not. <br />
<br />
== Complete Filmography ==<br />
*[[different town]] (Debut)<br />
<br />
[[Category: Places]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page_16
Main Page 16
2005-01-26T14:15:51Z
<p>68.15.244.8: </p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:Main16.PNG|220px|thumb|Wintertime Fun.]]<br />
<br />
Homestar Runner is out in the winter.<br />
<br />
'''Starring:''' [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Stick]], [[Strong Sad]]<br />
<br />
'''Page title:''' "WE'RE SNOWED IN!!"<br />
<br />
*'''Toons''' - It starts to snow and sleigh bells are heard.<br />
*'''Games''' - Homestar gets a snowball in the face.<br />
*'''Characters''' - [[Strong Sad]] goes by on a sled while yelling "This Sucks!" and hits a tree.<br />
*'''Downloads''' - [[The Stick]] gets decorated. Five possible decorations.<br />
*'''Store''' - It gets dark and starts snowing. A bright light - perhaps the Moon? - eminates from behind a distant tree.<br />
*'''Email''' - Homestar gets covered in snow. Homestar's voice is slightly muffled due to his being covered.<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
<br />
*The five possible stick decorations from scrolling over Downloads are:<br />
**Red ornament.<br />
**Blue ornament.<br />
**Yellow ornament.<br />
**Tinsel.<br />
**Gold Star.<br />
* The Stick being decorated is a reference to A Charlie Brown Christmas.<br />
* When Homestar blinks after being covered in snow, his eyes clear up.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/main16.html go to Main Page 16]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/main16.swf view the flash file for Main Page 16]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Main Pages]][[Category: Decemberween]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page_16
Main Page 16
2005-01-26T14:14:57Z
<p>68.15.244.8: </p>
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<div>[[Image:Main16.PNG|220px|thumb|Wintertime Fun.]]<br />
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Homestar Runner is out in the winter.<br />
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'''Starring:''' [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Stick]], [[Strong Sad]]<br />
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'''Page title:''' "WE'RE SNOWED IN!!"<br />
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*'''Toons''' - It starts to snow and sleigh bells are heard.<br />
*'''Games''' - Homestar gets a snowball in the face.<br />
*'''Characters''' - [[Strong Sad]] goes by on a sled while yelling "This Sucks!" and hits a tree.<br />
*'''Downloads''' - [[The Stick]] gets decorated. Five possible decorations.<br />
*'''Store''' - It gets dark and starts snowing. A bright light - perhaps the Moon? - eminates from behind a distant tree.<br />
*'''Email''' - Homestar gets covered in snow. Homestar's voice is slightly muffled due to being covered.<br />
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== Fun Facts ==<br />
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*The five possible stick decorations from scrolling over Downloads are:<br />
**Red ornament.<br />
**Blue ornament.<br />
**Yellow ornament.<br />
**Tinsel.<br />
**Gold Star.<br />
* The Stick being decorated is a reference to A Charlie Brown Christmas.<br />
* When Homestar blinks after being covered in snow, his eyes clear up.<br />
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== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/main16.html go to Main Page 16]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/main16.swf view the flash file for Main Page 16]<br />
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[[Category:Main Pages]][[Category: Decemberween]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Main_Pages
Main Pages
2005-01-25T13:37:17Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Fun Facts */</p>
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<div>[[Image:main1.png|thumb|right|220px|Today the Main Page tomorrow the world!]]<br />
The '''Main Pages''' are the "menu" pages for Homestarrunner.com, and are one of the more interesting aspects of the site. Every time you return to the main page a new one will load. These pages contain links to the regularly updating material of the site including the [[Quote of the Week]], [[Weekly Fanstuff]] and the [[Sketchbook]].<br />
<br />
Many of these pages contain funny little actions and references to previous toons.<br />
<br />
==Current list==<br />
*[[Main Page 1]] - Outer Space ''("What's not to love about Homestar Runner?")''<br />
*[[Main Page 2]] - The Alps ''("Homestar Runner")''<br />
*[[Main Page 3]] - Tropical island ''("Homestar Runner")''<br />
*[[Main Page 4]] - Bowling alley ''("The Comeback Kid!! Also known as Homestar Runner!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 5]] - Waffle house ''("Doing it rightways all the time...it's Homestar Runner!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 6]] - Heaven ''("Homestar Runner must be dead!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 7]] - Graveyard ''("Dead as a doornail!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 8]] - Falling through the sky ''("What's so great about Homestar Runner?")''<br />
*[[Main Page 9]] - Notebook sketch ''("Trapper Keeper!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 10]] - 1936 ''("Old Timey Fun Timey!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 11]] - Channel 4 Action news ''("More news at 11!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 12]] - 4th of July ''("Come Forth on July!!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 13]] - ATARI 2600 ''("Homestar Runner Game Pac")''<br />
*[[Main Page 14]] - Shower ''("Nakers!!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 15]] - Powered By The Cheat ''("Powered By The Cheat")''<br />
*[[Main Page 16]] - Wintertime ''("WE'RE SNOWED IN!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 17]] - 20X6 ''("20X6!!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 18]] - Sweet Cuppin' Cakes ''("Sweet Cuppin' Cakes")''<br />
*[[Main Page 19]] - The Show ''("The Show!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 20]] - Early Homestar ''("Duckie Shirt!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 21]] - Vector video game style ''("Many Green Lines!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 22]] - Virus! ''("Drop a train on em!")''<br />
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==Hidden Main Pages==<br />
There are a couple of hidden main pages:<br />
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*[[Homsar Main Page]] - Located by clicking the last digit of the copyright years (currently the "4" in 2004, although it is 2005) on each main page or by clicking on the [[Homsar]] pen puppet at the end of [[Strong Bad Email]] [[interview]]. ''("LEGITIMATE MENU PAGE!")''<br />
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*[[Luau Main Page]] - Found after the toon [[The Luau]]. ''("The Luau")''<br />
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*[[King Of Town Main Page]] - Found by pressing the stone in [[The King of Town DVD]] ''("kingoftown.com!!")''<br />
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*[[Strong Bad's Room Main Page]] - Found by winning the secret messages in [[Homestar Talker]]. ''("Homestar Talker")''<br />
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==Fun Facts==<br />
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*If you click and drag the navigation buttons from the left-hand menu area into the main part of the main page, you can make certain effects persist. You can even combine more than one effect.<br />
**For example, on Main Page 1, if you click and drag "'toons", "store", and "e-mail" to the left or right and let go, you'll be able to see the spaceman at the top of the rocket, the constellations of Strong Bad and Marzipan, and Homestar's helmet all at the same time (see the image at the top of this article).<br />
**You can use this trick for at least one effect on all the Main Pages except 7, 12, and 19. For the trick to work, the effect has to persist as long as you keep the mouse over the button.<br />
**This trick works throughout the site.<br />
**This trick used to work on scroll buttons, but they've since been fixed.<br />
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[[Category:Main Pages]][[Category: Lists]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Main_Pages
Main Pages
2005-01-25T13:33:00Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Fun Facts */</p>
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<div>[[Image:main1.png|thumb|right|220px|Today the Main Page tomorrow the world!]]<br />
The '''Main Pages''' are the "menu" pages for Homestarrunner.com, and are one of the more interesting aspects of the site. Every time you return to the main page a new one will load. These pages contain links to the regularly updating material of the site including the [[Quote of the Week]], [[Weekly Fanstuff]] and the [[Sketchbook]].<br />
<br />
Many of these pages contain funny little actions and references to previous toons.<br />
<br />
==Current list==<br />
*[[Main Page 1]] - Outer Space ''("What's not to love about Homestar Runner?")''<br />
*[[Main Page 2]] - The Alps ''("Homestar Runner")''<br />
*[[Main Page 3]] - Tropical island ''("Homestar Runner")''<br />
*[[Main Page 4]] - Bowling alley ''("The Comeback Kid!! Also known as Homestar Runner!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 5]] - Waffle house ''("Doing it rightways all the time...it's Homestar Runner!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 6]] - Heaven ''("Homestar Runner must be dead!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 7]] - Graveyard ''("Dead as a doornail!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 8]] - Falling through the sky ''("What's so great about Homestar Runner?")''<br />
*[[Main Page 9]] - Notebook sketch ''("Trapper Keeper!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 10]] - 1936 ''("Old Timey Fun Timey!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 11]] - Channel 4 Action news ''("More news at 11!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 12]] - 4th of July ''("Come Forth on July!!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 13]] - ATARI 2600 ''("Homestar Runner Game Pac")''<br />
*[[Main Page 14]] - Shower ''("Nakers!!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 15]] - Powered By The Cheat ''("Powered By The Cheat")''<br />
*[[Main Page 16]] - Wintertime ''("WE'RE SNOWED IN!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 17]] - 20X6 ''("20X6!!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 18]] - Sweet Cuppin' Cakes ''("Sweet Cuppin' Cakes")''<br />
*[[Main Page 19]] - The Show ''("The Show!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 20]] - Early Homestar ''("Duckie Shirt!!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 21]] - Vector video game style ''("Many Green Lines!")''<br />
*[[Main Page 22]] - Virus! ''("Drop a train on em!")''<br />
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==Hidden Main Pages==<br />
There are a couple of hidden main pages:<br />
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*[[Homsar Main Page]] - Located by clicking the last digit of the copyright years (currently the "4" in 2004, although it is 2005) on each main page or by clicking on the [[Homsar]] pen puppet at the end of [[Strong Bad Email]] [[interview]]. ''("LEGITIMATE MENU PAGE!")''<br />
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*[[Luau Main Page]] - Found after the toon [[The Luau]]. ''("The Luau")''<br />
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*[[King Of Town Main Page]] - Found by pressing the stone in [[The King of Town DVD]] ''("kingoftown.com!!")''<br />
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*[[Strong Bad's Room Main Page]] - Found by winning the secret messages in [[Homestar Talker]]. ''("Homestar Talker")''<br />
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==Fun Facts==<br />
<br />
*If you click and drag the navigation buttons from the left-hand menu area into the main part of the main page, you can make certain effects persist. You can even combine more than one effect.<br />
**For example, on Main Page 1, if you click and drag "'toons", "store", and "e-mail" to the left or right and let go, you'll be able to see the spaceman at the top of the rocket, the constellations of Strong Bad and Marzipan, and Homestar's helmet all at the same time.<br />
**You can use this trick for at least one effect on all the Main Pages except 7, 12, and 19. For the trick to work, the effect has to persist as long as you keep the mouse over the button.<br />
**This trick works throughout the site.<br />
**This trick used to work on scroll buttons, but they've since been fixed.<br />
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[[Category:Main Pages]][[Category: Lists]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki:Old_STUFF
HRWiki:Old STUFF
2005-01-23T00:54:57Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Trust */</p>
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Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).<br />
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Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts:<br />
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers<br />
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)<br />
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")<br />
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Things that often do not make good fun facts:<br />
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")<br />
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)<br />
* Things already noted in the transcript<br />
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript<br />
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.<br />
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When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).<br />
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If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.<br />
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If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.<br />
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== Voting ==<br />
New votes cast should generally be as follows:<br />
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.<br />
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).<br />
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''<br />
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.<br />
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)<br />
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The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.<br />
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'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. <br />
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You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.<br />
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== To be done ==<br />
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* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)<br />
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)<br />
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]<br />
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.<br />
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== Toons and E-mails ==<br />
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===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===<br />
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==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====<br />
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.<br />
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* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===<br />
====VOIP====<br />
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.<br />
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===<br />
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====Phantom Drummer?====<br />
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Presumably The Ugly One is playing it offstage. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**What? Did you not see when the Ugly One got Floor Tommed, Step Mommed, and Pom Pommed? It was pretty clear she was dead.[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 10:30, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''', actually, since it's quite true; The Ugly One was very much DEAD at that point in the flick. So... who was playing drums? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:17, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Its a suitable glitch. On the other hand, who really expects the Brothers Chap to redo the song each time one of the girls died? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
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====Guitar -> Shark====<br />
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?<br />
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Fender Guitars====<br />
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.<br />
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*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]<br />
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====College Radio====<br />
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]<br />
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====You Big Mouth!====<br />
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Math again====<br />
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.<br />
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*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]<br />
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Soulbait ====<br />
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.<br />
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* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== CGNU ====<br />
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.<br />
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===[[other days]]===<br />
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==== Thor? ====<br />
"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.<br />
**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' and coming up next on WFLM Making No Sense at All radio station is... "Thor?"!!!--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:35, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===<br />
==== Three Noses? ====<br />
Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Real big stretch. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:18, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[dreamail]]===<br />
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==== "Decline" ref====<br />
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When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.<br />
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I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*<br />
*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Or, indeed, any nouns at all. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*** Well, it does have two '''pro'''nouns... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:05, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Don't say it almost definitely is. You don't what you're talking about. This is just most likely a reference to "prooty" earlier in the e-mail.<br />
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==== Backwards joke ====<br />
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The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Ping ====<br />
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The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]<br />
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...<br />
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.<br />
*n/m about this point...<br />
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.<br />
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''<br />
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)<br />
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...edit: now that two people notice it, i'm definetely not. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It is more likely that the sub ping is a generic sound effect and that TBC and Pink Floyd happened to grab the exact same wav file of a sub ping. This would be like saying that when Mario enters a hidden area in Super Mario 64, it's a reference to Quake because the sound effect is very similar, if not identical to, a teleporter sound from Quake. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:15, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**But that example isn't like saying that the ping is the same because that isn't the same exact sound. The ping is. It's a very unlikely chance that both TBC and Pink Floyd invented the same exact ping on the same exact note with the same amount of dissonance! (sp?) In my opinion that's just impossible! &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Not Plugged In ====<br />
The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.<br />
*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second'''<br />
**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:19, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[The Reddest Radish]]===<br />
==== Paper Doll Style ====<br />
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This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.<br />
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[island]] ===<br />
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====<br />
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Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).<br />
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.<br />
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]<br />
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==== Forward Referencing #2 ====<br />
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The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].<br />
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*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.<br />
**Second that.<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.<br />
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails<br />
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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=== [[homsar]] ===<br />
==== Heavy Lourde ====<br />
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
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=== [[part-time job]] ===<br />
==== SWF File====<br />
This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall: [[Image:part-time-job-screenshot.jpg|Active Camaflouge Strong Bad]]<br />
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*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]] PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.<br />
*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:20, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.<br />
*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Relative ====<br />
Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?<br />
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*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.<br />
**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]<br />
**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.<br />
*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Dilbert ====<br />
The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.<br />
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''Also seen worded as:''<br />
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The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.<br />
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*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''<br />
*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' I dident know that<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Buh-hubs ====<br />
In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Someday ====<br />
In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].<br />
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*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental cliché, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== League of Women Voters ====<br />
"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.<br />
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*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===<br />
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==== Dr Zoidberg ====<br />
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The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.<br />
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot <i>is</i>, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[2 years]] ===<br />
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==== Mormon Missionary ====<br />
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===<br />
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==== Fat Cheat ====<br />
according to the Cheats hieght and weight his Body Mass Index is 64.6 normal weight is between 18.5 and 24.9 and obesity starts at 30 [[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and bad spelling. The Cheat is not a human, so BMI doesn't apply to him. Would you use BMI to see if a dog is overweight? [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:36, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:38, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:16, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This isn't AIM.--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:53, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[huttah!]] ===<br />
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====Title====<br />
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy. <br />
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*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.<br />
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=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===<br />
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=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===<br />
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...<br />
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*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!<br />
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.<br />
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==== Homestar's Clock ====<br />
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.<br />
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*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki><br />
**You know alot about clocks.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' To something like: <br />
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator! <br />
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Egg Nog Glass ====<br />
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'd.''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:45, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====<br />
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].<br />
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*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== Dripping Sound ====<br />
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Slippers ====<br />
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Blade man ====<br />
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The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.<br />
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Alms for the poor ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.<br />
**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Charlie Brown ====<br />
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The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Wizard of Oz ====<br />
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Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Beat It ====<br />
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Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Marzipan's Purse ====<br />
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Screentime ====<br />
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The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!<br />
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====<br />
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.<br />
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* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]<br />
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.<br />
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====<br />
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"<br />
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* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````<br />
*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's Phone ====<br />
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Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].<br />
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*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]<br />
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== It's odd considering... ====<br />
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It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.<br />
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*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)<br />
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]<br />
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.<br />
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Alms for the Pudgy ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== 1 on 1 ====<br />
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This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]<br />
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==== Electrical Tape? ====<br />
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Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====<br />
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Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
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*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]<br />
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==== "state trooper" ====<br />
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)<br />
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(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)<br />
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''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM<br />
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*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*<b> Decline </b> Janik<br />
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==== A running gag? ====<br />
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)<br />
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* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)<br />
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]<br />
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]<br />
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[radio]] ===<br />
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====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====<br />
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====<br />
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The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
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=== [[animal]] ===<br />
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==== check out all my dimensions ====<br />
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."<br />
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*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Lappy Startup Screen ====<br />
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8]. --[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]<br />
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== The Price is Right... Again ====<br />
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.<br />
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*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:<br />
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes<br />
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre><br />
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat<br />
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Just me being picky ====<br />
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)<br />
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]<br />
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Weird laptop ====<br />
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)<br />
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*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)<br />
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Off-screen typing ====<br />
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.<br />
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*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...<br />
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the<br />
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible<br />
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre><br />
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Babies havin' babies ====<br />
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/<br />
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* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====<br />
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When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.<br />
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=== [[virus]] ===<br />
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==== Quadratic formula ====<br />
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.<br />
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt><br />
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]<br />
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
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==== Pi ====<br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.<br />
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*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Maybe just <br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),<br />
which is an infinite number.<br />
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== 3D Bubs legs ====<br />
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman<br />
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.<br />
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====<br />
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.<br />
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*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Homsar's walking sound ====<br />
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Edgar's anachronism ====<br />
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.<br />
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*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.<br />
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy<br />
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Gilligan's Island? ====<br />
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.<br />
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*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]<br />
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===<br />
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==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====<br />
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.<br />
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*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====<br />
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====<br />
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===<br />
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==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====<br />
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===<br />
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==== Large Blank Space ====<br />
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.<br />
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'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===<br />
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==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====<br />
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In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[anything]] ===<br />
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==== Dan VS. Jerome ====<br />
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The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.<br />
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*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s><br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004<br />
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]<br />
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===<br />
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==== The Only Time? ====<br />
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)<br />
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s><br />
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====<br />
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone. <br />
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'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]<br />
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=== [[montage]] ===<br />
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==== hellboy ====<br />
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.<br />
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*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== scoreboard ====<br />
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.<br />
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==== ketchup ====<br />
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]<br />
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*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==Games==<br />
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===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===<br />
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====Wagon Wheel====<br />
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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== General ==<br />
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=== Cross-Toon Facts ===<br />
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==== Trust ====<br />
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" SpongeBob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.<br />
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''<br />
**'''Decline''' Ditto. &mdash; [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I thought more of 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' where Principal Ed Rooney says this of Ferris. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]</tt></small>''</div>
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http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki:Old_STUFF
HRWiki:Old STUFF
2005-01-23T00:53:56Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Trust */</p>
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Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).<br />
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Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts:<br />
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers<br />
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)<br />
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")<br />
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Things that often do not make good fun facts:<br />
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")<br />
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)<br />
* Things already noted in the transcript<br />
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript<br />
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.<br />
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When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).<br />
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If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.<br />
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* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)<br />
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)<br />
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]<br />
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.<br />
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== Toons and E-mails ==<br />
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===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===<br />
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==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====<br />
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.<br />
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* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===<br />
====VOIP====<br />
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.<br />
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===<br />
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====Phantom Drummer?====<br />
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Presumably The Ugly One is playing it offstage. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**What? Did you not see when the Ugly One got Floor Tommed, Step Mommed, and Pom Pommed? It was pretty clear she was dead.[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 10:30, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''', actually, since it's quite true; The Ugly One was very much DEAD at that point in the flick. So... who was playing drums? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:17, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Its a suitable glitch. On the other hand, who really expects the Brothers Chap to redo the song each time one of the girls died? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
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====Guitar -> Shark====<br />
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?<br />
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Fender Guitars====<br />
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.<br />
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*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]<br />
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====College Radio====<br />
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]<br />
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====You Big Mouth!====<br />
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Math again====<br />
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.<br />
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*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]<br />
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Soulbait ====<br />
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.<br />
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* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== CGNU ====<br />
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.<br />
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==== Thor? ====<br />
"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.<br />
**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' and coming up next on WFLM Making No Sense at All radio station is... "Thor?"!!!--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:35, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===<br />
==== Three Noses? ====<br />
Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Real big stretch. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:18, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== "Decline" ref====<br />
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When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.<br />
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I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*<br />
*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Or, indeed, any nouns at all. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*** Well, it does have two '''pro'''nouns... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:05, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Don't say it almost definitely is. You don't what you're talking about. This is just most likely a reference to "prooty" earlier in the e-mail.<br />
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==== Backwards joke ====<br />
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The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Ping ====<br />
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The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]<br />
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...<br />
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.<br />
*n/m about this point...<br />
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.<br />
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''<br />
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)<br />
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...edit: now that two people notice it, i'm definetely not. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It is more likely that the sub ping is a generic sound effect and that TBC and Pink Floyd happened to grab the exact same wav file of a sub ping. This would be like saying that when Mario enters a hidden area in Super Mario 64, it's a reference to Quake because the sound effect is very similar, if not identical to, a teleporter sound from Quake. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:15, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**But that example isn't like saying that the ping is the same because that isn't the same exact sound. The ping is. It's a very unlikely chance that both TBC and Pink Floyd invented the same exact ping on the same exact note with the same amount of dissonance! (sp?) In my opinion that's just impossible! &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Not Plugged In ====<br />
The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.<br />
*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second'''<br />
**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:19, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[The Reddest Radish]]===<br />
==== Paper Doll Style ====<br />
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This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.<br />
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[island]] ===<br />
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====<br />
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Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).<br />
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.<br />
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]<br />
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==== Forward Referencing #2 ====<br />
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The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].<br />
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*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.<br />
**Second that.<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.<br />
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails<br />
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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=== [[homsar]] ===<br />
==== Heavy Lourde ====<br />
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
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=== [[part-time job]] ===<br />
==== SWF File====<br />
This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall: [[Image:part-time-job-screenshot.jpg|Active Camaflouge Strong Bad]]<br />
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*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]] PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.<br />
*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:20, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.<br />
*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Relative ====<br />
Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?<br />
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*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.<br />
**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]<br />
**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.<br />
*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Dilbert ====<br />
The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.<br />
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''Also seen worded as:''<br />
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The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.<br />
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*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''<br />
*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' I dident know that<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Buh-hubs ====<br />
In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Someday ====<br />
In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].<br />
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*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental cliché, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== League of Women Voters ====<br />
"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.<br />
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*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===<br />
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==== Dr Zoidberg ====<br />
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The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.<br />
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot <i>is</i>, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[2 years]] ===<br />
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==== Mormon Missionary ====<br />
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===<br />
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==== Fat Cheat ====<br />
according to the Cheats hieght and weight his Body Mass Index is 64.6 normal weight is between 18.5 and 24.9 and obesity starts at 30 [[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and bad spelling. The Cheat is not a human, so BMI doesn't apply to him. Would you use BMI to see if a dog is overweight? [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:36, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:38, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:16, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This isn't AIM.--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:53, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[huttah!]] ===<br />
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====Title====<br />
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy. <br />
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*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.<br />
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=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===<br />
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=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===<br />
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...<br />
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*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!<br />
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.<br />
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==== Homestar's Clock ====<br />
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.<br />
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*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki><br />
**You know alot about clocks.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' To something like: <br />
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator! <br />
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Egg Nog Glass ====<br />
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'd.''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:45, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====<br />
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].<br />
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*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== Dripping Sound ====<br />
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Slippers ====<br />
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Blade man ====<br />
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The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.<br />
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Alms for the poor ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.<br />
**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Charlie Brown ====<br />
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The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Wizard of Oz ====<br />
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Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Beat It ====<br />
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Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Marzipan's Purse ====<br />
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Screentime ====<br />
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The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!<br />
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====<br />
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.<br />
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* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]<br />
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.<br />
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====<br />
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"<br />
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* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````<br />
*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's Phone ====<br />
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Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].<br />
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*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]<br />
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== It's odd considering... ====<br />
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It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.<br />
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*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)<br />
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]<br />
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.<br />
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Alms for the Pudgy ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== 1 on 1 ====<br />
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This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]<br />
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==== Electrical Tape? ====<br />
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Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====<br />
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Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
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*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]<br />
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==== "state trooper" ====<br />
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)<br />
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(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)<br />
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''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM<br />
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*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*<b> Decline </b> Janik<br />
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==== A running gag? ====<br />
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)<br />
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* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)<br />
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]<br />
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]<br />
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[radio]] ===<br />
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====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====<br />
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====<br />
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The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
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=== [[animal]] ===<br />
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==== check out all my dimensions ====<br />
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."<br />
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*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Lappy Startup Screen ====<br />
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8]. --[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]<br />
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== The Price is Right... Again ====<br />
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.<br />
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*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:<br />
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes<br />
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre><br />
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat<br />
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Just me being picky ====<br />
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)<br />
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]<br />
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Weird laptop ====<br />
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)<br />
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*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)<br />
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Off-screen typing ====<br />
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.<br />
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*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...<br />
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the<br />
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible<br />
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre><br />
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Babies havin' babies ====<br />
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/<br />
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* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
<br />
==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====<br />
<br />
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.<br />
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=== [[virus]] ===<br />
<br />
==== Quadratic formula ====<br />
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.<br />
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt><br />
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]<br />
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
<br />
==== Pi ====<br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.<br />
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*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Maybe just <br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),<br />
which is an infinite number.<br />
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== 3D Bubs legs ====<br />
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman<br />
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.<br />
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====<br />
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.<br />
<br />
*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Homsar's walking sound ====<br />
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Edgar's anachronism ====<br />
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.<br />
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*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.<br />
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy<br />
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Gilligan's Island? ====<br />
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.<br />
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*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]<br />
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
<br />
=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===<br />
<br />
==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====<br />
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.<br />
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*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====<br />
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====<br />
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===<br />
<br />
==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====<br />
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===<br />
<br />
==== Large Blank Space ====<br />
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.<br />
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'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===<br />
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==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====<br />
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In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[anything]] ===<br />
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==== Dan VS. Jerome ====<br />
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The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.<br />
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*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s><br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004<br />
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]<br />
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===<br />
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==== The Only Time? ====<br />
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)<br />
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s><br />
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====<br />
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone. <br />
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'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]<br />
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=== [[montage]] ===<br />
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==== hellboy ====<br />
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.<br />
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*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== scoreboard ====<br />
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.<br />
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==== ketchup ====<br />
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]<br />
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*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==Games==<br />
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===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===<br />
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====Wagon Wheel====<br />
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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== General ==<br />
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=== Cross-Toon Facts ===<br />
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==== Trust ====<br />
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" SpongeBob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.<br />
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''<br />
**'''Decline''' Ditto. &mdash; [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I thought more of 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' where Principal Ed Rooney says this of Ferris.</div>
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Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).<br />
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Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts:<br />
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers<br />
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)<br />
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")<br />
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Things that often do not make good fun facts:<br />
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")<br />
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)<br />
* Things already noted in the transcript<br />
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript<br />
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.<br />
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When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).<br />
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If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.<br />
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If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.<br />
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== Voting ==<br />
New votes cast should generally be as follows:<br />
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.<br />
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).<br />
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''<br />
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.<br />
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)<br />
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The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.<br />
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'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. <br />
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You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.<br />
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== To be done ==<br />
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* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)<br />
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)<br />
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]<br />
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.<br />
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== Toons and E-mails ==<br />
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===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===<br />
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==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====<br />
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.<br />
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* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===<br />
====VOIP====<br />
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.<br />
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===<br />
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====Phantom Drummer?====<br />
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Presumably The Ugly One is playing it offstage. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**What? Did you not see when the Ugly One got Floor Tommed, Step Mommed, and Pom Pommed? It was pretty clear she was dead.[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 10:30, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''', actually, since it's quite true; The Ugly One was very much DEAD at that point in the flick. So... who was playing drums? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:17, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Its a suitable glitch. On the other hand, who really expects the Brothers Chap to redo the song each time one of the girls died? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
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====Guitar -> Shark====<br />
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?<br />
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Fender Guitars====<br />
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.<br />
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*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]<br />
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====College Radio====<br />
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]<br />
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====You Big Mouth!====<br />
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Math again====<br />
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.<br />
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*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]<br />
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Soulbait ====<br />
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.<br />
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* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== CGNU ====<br />
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.<br />
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===[[other days]]===<br />
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==== Thor? ====<br />
"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.<br />
**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' and coming up next on WFLM Making No Sense at All radio station is... "Thor?"!!!--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:35, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===<br />
==== Three Noses? ====<br />
Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Real big stretch. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:18, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[dreamail]]===<br />
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==== "Decline" ref====<br />
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When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.<br />
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I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*<br />
*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Or, indeed, any nouns at all. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*** Well, it does have two '''pro'''nouns... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:05, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Don't say it almost definitely is. You don't what you're talking about. This is just most likely a reference to "prooty" earlier in the e-mail.<br />
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==== Backwards joke ====<br />
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The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Ping ====<br />
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The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]<br />
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...<br />
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.<br />
*n/m about this point...<br />
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.<br />
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''<br />
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)<br />
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...edit: now that two people notice it, i'm definetely not. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It is more likely that the sub ping is a generic sound effect and that TBC and Pink Floyd happened to grab the exact same wav file of a sub ping. This would be like saying that when Mario enters a hidden area in Super Mario 64, it's a reference to Quake because the sound effect is very similar, if not identical to, a teleporter sound from Quake. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:15, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**But that example isn't like saying that the ping is the same because that isn't the same exact sound. The ping is. It's a very unlikely chance that both TBC and Pink Floyd invented the same exact ping on the same exact note with the same amount of dissonance! (sp?) In my opinion that's just impossible! &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Not Plugged In ====<br />
The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.<br />
*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second'''<br />
**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:19, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[The Reddest Radish]]===<br />
==== Paper Doll Style ====<br />
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This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.<br />
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[island]] ===<br />
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====<br />
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Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).<br />
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.<br />
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]<br />
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==== Forward Referencing #2 ====<br />
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The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].<br />
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*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.<br />
**Second that.<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.<br />
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails<br />
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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=== [[homsar]] ===<br />
==== Heavy Lourde ====<br />
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
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=== [[part-time job]] ===<br />
==== SWF File====<br />
This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall: [[Image:part-time-job-screenshot.jpg|Active Camaflouge Strong Bad]]<br />
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*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]] PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.<br />
*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:20, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.<br />
*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Relative ====<br />
Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?<br />
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*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.<br />
**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]<br />
**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.<br />
*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Dilbert ====<br />
The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.<br />
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''Also seen worded as:''<br />
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The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.<br />
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*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''<br />
*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' I dident know that<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Buh-hubs ====<br />
In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Someday ====<br />
In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].<br />
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*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental cliché, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== League of Women Voters ====<br />
"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.<br />
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*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===<br />
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==== Dr Zoidberg ====<br />
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The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.<br />
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot <i>is</i>, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[2 years]] ===<br />
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==== Mormon Missionary ====<br />
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===<br />
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==== Fat Cheat ====<br />
according to the Cheats hieght and weight his Body Mass Index is 64.6 normal weight is between 18.5 and 24.9 and obesity starts at 30 [[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and bad spelling. The Cheat is not a human, so BMI doesn't apply to him. Would you use BMI to see if a dog is overweight? [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:36, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:38, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:16, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This isn't AIM.--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:53, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[huttah!]] ===<br />
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====Title====<br />
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy. <br />
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*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.<br />
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=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===<br />
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=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===<br />
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...<br />
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*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!<br />
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.<br />
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==== Homestar's Clock ====<br />
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.<br />
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*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki><br />
**You know alot about clocks.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' To something like: <br />
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator! <br />
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Egg Nog Glass ====<br />
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'd.''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:45, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====<br />
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].<br />
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*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== Dripping Sound ====<br />
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Slippers ====<br />
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Blade man ====<br />
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The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.<br />
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Alms for the poor ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.<br />
**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Charlie Brown ====<br />
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The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Wizard of Oz ====<br />
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Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Beat It ====<br />
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Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Marzipan's Purse ====<br />
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Screentime ====<br />
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The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!<br />
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====<br />
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.<br />
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* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]<br />
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.<br />
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====<br />
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"<br />
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* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````<br />
*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's Phone ====<br />
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Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].<br />
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*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]<br />
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== It's odd considering... ====<br />
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It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.<br />
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*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)<br />
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]<br />
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.<br />
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Alms for the Pudgy ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== 1 on 1 ====<br />
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This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]<br />
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==== Electrical Tape? ====<br />
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Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====<br />
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Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
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*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]<br />
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==== "state trooper" ====<br />
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)<br />
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(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)<br />
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''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM<br />
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*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*<b> Decline </b> Janik<br />
<br />
==== A running gag? ====<br />
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)<br />
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* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)<br />
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]<br />
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]<br />
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[radio]] ===<br />
<br />
====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====<br />
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
<br />
====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====<br />
<br />
The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
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=== [[animal]] ===<br />
<br />
==== check out all my dimensions ====<br />
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."<br />
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*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Lappy Startup Screen ====<br />
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8]. --[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]<br />
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== The Price is Right... Again ====<br />
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.<br />
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*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:<br />
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes<br />
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre><br />
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat<br />
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Just me being picky ====<br />
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)<br />
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]<br />
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Weird laptop ====<br />
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)<br />
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*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)<br />
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
<br />
==== Off-screen typing ====<br />
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.<br />
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*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...<br />
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the<br />
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible<br />
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre><br />
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Babies havin' babies ====<br />
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/<br />
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* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====<br />
<br />
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.<br />
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=== [[virus]] ===<br />
<br />
==== Quadratic formula ====<br />
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.<br />
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt><br />
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]<br />
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
<br />
==== Pi ====<br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.<br />
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*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Maybe just <br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),<br />
which is an infinite number.<br />
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== 3D Bubs legs ====<br />
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.<br />
<br />
*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman<br />
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.<br />
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====<br />
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.<br />
<br />
*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Homsar's walking sound ====<br />
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Edgar's anachronism ====<br />
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.<br />
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*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.<br />
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy<br />
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Gilligan's Island? ====<br />
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.<br />
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*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]<br />
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===<br />
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==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====<br />
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.<br />
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*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====<br />
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====<br />
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===<br />
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==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====<br />
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===<br />
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==== Large Blank Space ====<br />
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.<br />
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'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===<br />
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==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====<br />
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In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[anything]] ===<br />
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==== Dan VS. Jerome ====<br />
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The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.<br />
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*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s><br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004<br />
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]<br />
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===<br />
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==== The Only Time? ====<br />
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)<br />
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s><br />
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====<br />
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone. <br />
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'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]<br />
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=== [[montage]] ===<br />
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==== hellboy ====<br />
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.<br />
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*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== scoreboard ====<br />
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.<br />
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==== ketchup ====<br />
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]<br />
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*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==Games==<br />
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===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===<br />
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====Wagon Wheel====<br />
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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== General ==<br />
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=== Cross-Toon Facts ===<br />
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==== Trust ====<br />
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.<br />
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''<br />
**'''Decline''' Ditto. &mdash; [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</div>
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HRWiki:Old STUFF
2005-01-22T12:31:24Z
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Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).<br />
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Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts:<br />
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers<br />
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)<br />
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")<br />
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Things that often do not make good fun facts:<br />
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")<br />
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)<br />
* Things already noted in the transcript<br />
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript<br />
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.<br />
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When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).<br />
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If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.<br />
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If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.<br />
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== Voting ==<br />
New votes cast should generally be as follows:<br />
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.<br />
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).<br />
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''<br />
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.<br />
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)<br />
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== To be done ==<br />
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* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)<br />
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)<br />
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]<br />
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.<br />
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== Toons and E-mails ==<br />
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===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===<br />
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==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====<br />
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===<br />
====VOIP====<br />
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.<br />
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===<br />
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====Phantom Drummer?====<br />
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Presumably The Ugly One is playing it offstage. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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====Guitar -> Shark====<br />
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?<br />
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Fender Guitars====<br />
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.<br />
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*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]<br />
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====College Radio====<br />
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]<br />
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====You Big Mouth!====<br />
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Math again====<br />
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.<br />
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*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]<br />
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Soulbait ====<br />
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.<br />
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* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Thor? ====<br />
"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.<br />
**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' and coming up next on WFLM Making No Sense at All radio station is... "Thor?"!!!--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:35, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===<br />
==== Three Noses? ====<br />
Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Real big stretch. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:18, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== "Decline" ref====<br />
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When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.<br />
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I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*<br />
*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Or, indeed, any nouns at all. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*** Well, it does have two '''pro'''nouns... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:05, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Don't say it almost definitely is. You don't what you're talking about. This is just most likely a reference to "prooty" earlier in the e-mail.<br />
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==== Backwards joke ====<br />
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The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Ping ====<br />
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The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]<br />
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...<br />
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.<br />
*n/m about this point...<br />
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.<br />
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''<br />
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)<br />
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...edit: now that two people notice it, i'm definetely not. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It is more likely that the sub ping is a generic sound effect and that TBC and Pink Floyd happened to grab the exact same wav file of a sub ping. This would be like saying that when Mario enters a hidden area in Super Mario 64, it's a reference to Quake because the sound effect is very similar, if not identical to, a teleporter sound from Quake. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:15, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Not Plugged In ====<br />
The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.<br />
*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second'''<br />
**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:19, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[The Reddest Radish]]===<br />
==== Paper Doll Style ====<br />
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This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.<br />
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[island]] ===<br />
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====<br />
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Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).<br />
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.<br />
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]<br />
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==== Forward Referencing #2 ====<br />
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The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].<br />
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*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.<br />
**Second that.<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.<br />
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails<br />
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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=== [[homsar]] ===<br />
==== Heavy Lourde ====<br />
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
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=== [[part-time job]] ===<br />
==== SWF File====<br />
This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall: [[Image:part-time-job-screenshot.jpg|Active Camaflouge Strong Bad]]<br />
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*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]] PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.<br />
*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:20, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.<br />
*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Relative ====<br />
Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?<br />
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*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.<br />
**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]<br />
**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.<br />
*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Dilbert ====<br />
The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.<br />
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''Also seen worded as:''<br />
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The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.<br />
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*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''<br />
*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' I dident know that<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Buh-hubs ====<br />
In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Someday ====<br />
In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].<br />
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*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental cliché, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== League of Women Voters ====<br />
"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.<br />
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*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===<br />
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==== Dr Zoidberg ====<br />
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The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.<br />
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot <i>is</i>, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[2 years]] ===<br />
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==== Mormon Missionary ====<br />
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
<br />
=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===<br />
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==== Fat Cheat ====<br />
according to the Cheats hieght and weight his Body Mass Index is 64.6 normal weight is between 18.5 and 24.9 and obesity starts at 30 [[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and bad spelling. The Cheat is not a human, so BMI doesn't apply to him. Would you use BMI to see if a dog is overweight? [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:36, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:38, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:16, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This isn't AIM.--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:53, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[huttah!]] ===<br />
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====Title====<br />
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy. <br />
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*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.<br />
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=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===<br />
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=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===<br />
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...<br />
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*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!<br />
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.<br />
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==== Homestar's Clock ====<br />
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.<br />
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*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki><br />
**You know alot about clocks.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' To something like: <br />
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator! <br />
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Egg Nog Glass ====<br />
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====<br />
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].<br />
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*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== Dripping Sound ====<br />
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Slippers ====<br />
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Blade man ====<br />
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The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.<br />
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Alms for the poor ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.<br />
**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Charlie Brown ====<br />
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The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon.<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Wizard of Oz ====<br />
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Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Beat It ====<br />
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Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Marzipan's Purse ====<br />
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Screentime ====<br />
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The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!<br />
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====<br />
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.<br />
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* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]<br />
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.<br />
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know.<br />
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==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====<br />
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"<br />
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* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````<br />
*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's Phone ====<br />
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Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].<br />
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*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]<br />
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== It's odd considering... ====<br />
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It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.<br />
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*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)<br />
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]<br />
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.<br />
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Alms for the Pudgy ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== 1 on 1 ====<br />
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This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]<br />
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==== Electrical Tape? ====<br />
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Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====<br />
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Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
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*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]<br />
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==== "state trooper" ====<br />
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)<br />
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(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)<br />
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''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM<br />
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*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*<b> Decline </b> Janik<br />
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==== A running gag? ====<br />
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)<br />
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* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)<br />
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]<br />
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]<br />
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[radio]] ===<br />
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====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====<br />
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====<br />
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The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
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=== [[animal]] ===<br />
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==== check out all my dimensions ====<br />
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."<br />
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*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Lappy Startup Screen ====<br />
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8]. --[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]<br />
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== The Price is Right... Again ====<br />
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.<br />
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*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:<br />
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes<br />
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre><br />
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat<br />
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Just me being picky ====<br />
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)<br />
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]<br />
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Weird laptop ====<br />
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)<br />
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*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)<br />
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Off-screen typing ====<br />
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.<br />
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*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...<br />
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the<br />
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible<br />
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre><br />
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Babies havin' babies ====<br />
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/<br />
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* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====<br />
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When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.<br />
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=== [[virus]] ===<br />
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==== Quadratic formula ====<br />
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.<br />
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt><br />
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]<br />
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
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==== Pi ====<br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.<br />
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*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Maybe just <br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),<br />
which is an infinite number.<br />
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== 3D Bubs legs ====<br />
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman<br />
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.<br />
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====<br />
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.<br />
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*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Homsar's walking sound ====<br />
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Edgar's anachronism ====<br />
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.<br />
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*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.<br />
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy<br />
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Gilligan's Island? ====<br />
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.<br />
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*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]<br />
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence.<br />
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===<br />
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==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====<br />
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.<br />
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*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====<br />
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====<br />
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===<br />
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==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====<br />
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===<br />
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==== Large Blank Space ====<br />
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.<br />
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'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===<br />
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==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====<br />
<br />
In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[anything]] ===<br />
<br />
==== Dan VS. Jerome ====<br />
<br />
The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.<br />
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*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s><br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004<br />
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]<br />
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===<br />
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==== The Only Time? ====<br />
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)<br />
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s><br />
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====<br />
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone. <br />
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'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]<br />
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=== [[montage]] ===<br />
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==== hellboy ====<br />
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.<br />
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*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== scoreboard ====<br />
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.<br />
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==== ketchup ====<br />
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]<br />
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*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==Games==<br />
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===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===<br />
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====Wagon Wheel====<br />
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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== General ==<br />
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=== Cross-Toon Facts ===<br />
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==== Trust ====<br />
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.<br />
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''<br />
**'''Decline''' Ditto. &mdash; [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</div>
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http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Homestar%27s_Room
Homestar's Room
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<div>[[Image:homestars_bedroom.PNG|thumb|right|And the floor is pretty comfy, too.]]<br />
'''Homestar's bedroom''', first seen in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], has maroon walls, a window, Homestar's bed (bare box spring only), and an alarm clock/radio labeled "[[Homestar's Clock]]" on a dresser. Homestar's room is up a flight of stairs, so it's likely on the second floor.<br />
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[[Category:Individual Rooms]]</div>
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http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki:Old_STUFF
HRWiki:Old STUFF
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Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).<br />
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Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts:<br />
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers<br />
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)<br />
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")<br />
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Things that often do not make good fun facts:<br />
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")<br />
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)<br />
* Things already noted in the transcript<br />
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript<br />
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.<br />
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When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).<br />
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If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.<br />
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If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.<br />
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== Voting ==<br />
New votes cast should generally be as follows:<br />
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.<br />
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).<br />
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''<br />
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.<br />
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)<br />
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The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.<br />
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'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. <br />
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You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.<br />
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== To be done ==<br />
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* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)<br />
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)<br />
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]<br />
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.<br />
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== Toons and E-mails ==<br />
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===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===<br />
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==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====<br />
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===<br />
====VOIP====<br />
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.<br />
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===<br />
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====Phantom Drummer?====<br />
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Presumably The Ugly One is playing it offstage. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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====Guitar -> Shark====<br />
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?<br />
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Fender Guitars====<br />
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.<br />
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*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]<br />
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====College Radio====<br />
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]<br />
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====You Big Mouth!====<br />
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Math again====<br />
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.<br />
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*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]<br />
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Soulbait ====<br />
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.<br />
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* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[other days]]===<br />
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==== Thor? ====<br />
"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.<br />
**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' and coming up next on WFLM Making No Sense at All radio station is... "Thor?"!!!--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:35, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===<br />
==== Three Noses? ====<br />
Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Real big stretch. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:18, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[dreamail]]===<br />
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==== "Decline" ref====<br />
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When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.<br />
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I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*<br />
*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Or, indeed, any nouns at all. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*** Well, it does have two '''pro'''nouns... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:05, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Don't say it almost definitely is. You don't what you're talking about. This is just most likely a reference to "prooty" earlier in the e-mail.<br />
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==== Backwards joke ====<br />
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The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Ping ====<br />
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The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]<br />
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...<br />
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.<br />
*n/m about this point...<br />
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.<br />
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''<br />
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)<br />
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...edit: now that two people notice it, i'm definetely not. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It is more likely that the sub ping is a generic sound effect and that TBC and Pink Floyd happened to grab the exact same wav file of a sub ping. This would be like saying that when Mario enters a hidden area in Super Mario 64, it's a reference to Quake because the sound effect is very similar, if not identical to, a teleporter sound from Quake. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:15, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Not Plugged In ====<br />
The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.<br />
*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second'''<br />
**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:19, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[The Reddest Radish]]===<br />
==== Paper Doll Style ====<br />
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This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.<br />
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[island]] ===<br />
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====<br />
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Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).<br />
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.<br />
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]<br />
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==== Forward Referencing #2 ====<br />
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The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].<br />
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*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.<br />
**Second that.<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.<br />
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails<br />
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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=== [[homsar]] ===<br />
==== Heavy Lourde ====<br />
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
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=== [[part-time job]] ===<br />
==== SWF File====<br />
This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall: [[Image:part-time-job-screenshot.jpg|Active Camaflouge Strong Bad]]<br />
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*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]] PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.<br />
*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:20, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.<br />
*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Relative ====<br />
Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?<br />
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*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.<br />
**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]<br />
**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.<br />
*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Dilbert ====<br />
The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.<br />
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''Also seen worded as:''<br />
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The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.<br />
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*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''<br />
*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' I dident know that<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Buh-hubs ====<br />
In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Someday ====<br />
In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].<br />
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*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental cliché, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== League of Women Voters ====<br />
"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.<br />
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*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===<br />
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==== Dr Zoidberg ====<br />
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The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.<br />
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot <i>is</i>, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[2 years]] ===<br />
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==== Mormon Missionary ====<br />
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===<br />
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==== Fat Cheat ====<br />
according to the Cheats hieght and weight his Body Mass Index is 64.6 normal weight is between 18.5 and 24.9 and obesity starts at 30 [[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and bad spelling. The Cheat is not a human, so BMI doesn't apply to him. Would you use BMI to see if a dog is overweight? [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:36, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:38, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:16, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This isn't AIM.--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:53, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[huttah!]] ===<br />
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====Title====<br />
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy. <br />
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*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.<br />
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=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===<br />
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=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===<br />
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...<br />
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*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!<br />
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.<br />
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==== Homestar's Clock ====<br />
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.<br />
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*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki><br />
**You know alot about clocks.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' To something like: <br />
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator! <br />
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Egg Nog Glass ====<br />
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====<br />
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].<br />
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*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== Dripping Sound ====<br />
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Slippers ====<br />
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Blade man ====<br />
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The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.<br />
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Alms for the poor ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.<br />
**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Charlie Brown ====<br />
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The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon.<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Wizard of Oz ====<br />
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Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Beat It ====<br />
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Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Marzipan's Purse ====<br />
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Screentime ====<br />
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The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!<br />
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====<br />
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.<br />
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* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]<br />
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.<br />
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
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==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====<br />
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"<br />
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* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````<br />
*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's Phone ====<br />
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Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].<br />
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*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]<br />
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== It's odd considering... ====<br />
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It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.<br />
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*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)<br />
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]<br />
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.<br />
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Alms for the Pudgy ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== 1 on 1 ====<br />
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This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]<br />
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==== Electrical Tape? ====<br />
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Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====<br />
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Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
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*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]<br />
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==== "state trooper" ====<br />
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)<br />
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(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)<br />
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''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM<br />
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*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*<b> Decline </b> Janik<br />
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==== A running gag? ====<br />
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)<br />
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* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)<br />
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]<br />
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]<br />
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[radio]] ===<br />
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====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====<br />
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
<br />
====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====<br />
<br />
The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
<br />
*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
<br />
=== [[animal]] ===<br />
<br />
==== check out all my dimensions ====<br />
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."<br />
<br />
*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
<br />
==== Lappy Startup Screen ====<br />
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8]. --[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]<br />
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
<br />
==== The Price is Right... Again ====<br />
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.<br />
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*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:<br />
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes<br />
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre><br />
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat<br />
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Just me being picky ====<br />
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)<br />
<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]<br />
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Weird laptop ====<br />
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)<br />
<br />
*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)<br />
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
<br />
==== Off-screen typing ====<br />
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.<br />
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*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...<br />
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the<br />
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible<br />
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre><br />
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Babies havin' babies ====<br />
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/<br />
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* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
<br />
==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====<br />
<br />
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.<br />
<br />
=== [[virus]] ===<br />
<br />
==== Quadratic formula ====<br />
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.<br />
<br />
*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.<br />
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt><br />
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]<br />
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
<br />
==== Pi ====<br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.<br />
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*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Maybe just <br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),<br />
which is an infinite number.<br />
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== 3D Bubs legs ====<br />
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.<br />
<br />
*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman<br />
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.<br />
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====<br />
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.<br />
<br />
*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Homsar's walking sound ====<br />
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".<br />
<br />
*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Edgar's anachronism ====<br />
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.<br />
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*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.<br />
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy<br />
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Gilligan's Island? ====<br />
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.<br />
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*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]<br />
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence.<br />
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===<br />
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==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====<br />
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.<br />
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*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====<br />
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====<br />
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===<br />
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==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====<br />
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===<br />
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==== Large Blank Space ====<br />
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.<br />
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'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===<br />
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==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====<br />
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In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[anything]] ===<br />
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==== Dan VS. Jerome ====<br />
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The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.<br />
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*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s><br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004<br />
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]<br />
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===<br />
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==== The Only Time? ====<br />
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)<br />
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s><br />
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====<br />
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone. <br />
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'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]<br />
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=== [[montage]] ===<br />
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==== hellboy ====<br />
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.<br />
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*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== scoreboard ====<br />
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.<br />
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==== ketchup ====<br />
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]<br />
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==Games==<br />
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===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===<br />
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====Wagon Wheel====<br />
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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== General ==<br />
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=== Cross-Toon Facts ===<br />
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==== Trust ====<br />
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.<br />
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''<br />
**'''Decline''' Ditto. &mdash; [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</div>
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http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki:Old_STUFF
HRWiki:Old STUFF
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Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).<br />
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Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts:<br />
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers<br />
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)<br />
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")<br />
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Things that often do not make good fun facts:<br />
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")<br />
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)<br />
* Things already noted in the transcript<br />
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript<br />
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.<br />
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When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).<br />
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If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.<br />
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If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.<br />
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== Voting ==<br />
New votes cast should generally be as follows:<br />
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.<br />
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).<br />
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''<br />
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.<br />
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)<br />
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The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.<br />
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'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. <br />
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You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.<br />
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== To be done ==<br />
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* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)<br />
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)<br />
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]<br />
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.<br />
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== Toons and E-mails ==<br />
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===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===<br />
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==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====<br />
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===<br />
====VOIP====<br />
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.<br />
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===<br />
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====Phantom Drummer?====<br />
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Presumably The Ugly One is playing it offstage. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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====Guitar -> Shark====<br />
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?<br />
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Fender Guitars====<br />
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.<br />
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*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]<br />
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====College Radio====<br />
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]<br />
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====You Big Mouth!====<br />
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Math again====<br />
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.<br />
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*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]<br />
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Soulbait ====<br />
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.<br />
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* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[other days]]===<br />
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==== Thor? ====<br />
"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.<br />
**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' and coming up next on WFLM Making No Sense at All radio station is... "Thor?"!!!--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:35, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===<br />
==== Three Noses? ====<br />
Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Real big stretch. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:18, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[dreamail]]===<br />
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==== "Decline" ref====<br />
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When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.<br />
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I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*<br />
*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Or, indeed, any nouns at all. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*** Well, it does have two '''pro'''nouns... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:05, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Don't say it almost definitely is. You don't what you're talking about. This is just most likely a reference to "prooty" earlier in the e-mail.<br />
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==== Backwards joke ====<br />
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The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Ping ====<br />
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The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]<br />
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...<br />
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.<br />
*n/m about this point...<br />
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.<br />
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''<br />
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)<br />
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...edit: now that two people notice it, i'm definetely not. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It is more likely that the sub ping is a generic sound effect and that TBC and Pink Floyd happened to grab the exact same wav file of a sub ping. This would be like saying that when Mario enters a hidden area in Super Mario 64, it's a reference to Quake because the sound effect is very similar, if not identical to, a teleporter sound from Quake. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:15, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Not Plugged In ====<br />
The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.<br />
*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second'''<br />
**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:19, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[The Reddest Radish]]===<br />
==== Paper Doll Style ====<br />
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This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.<br />
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[island]] ===<br />
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====<br />
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Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).<br />
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.<br />
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]<br />
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==== Forward Referencing #2 ====<br />
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The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].<br />
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*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.<br />
**Second that.<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.<br />
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails<br />
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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=== [[homsar]] ===<br />
==== Heavy Lourde ====<br />
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
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=== [[part-time job]] ===<br />
==== SWF File====<br />
This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall: [[Image:part-time-job-screenshot.jpg|Active Camaflouge Strong Bad]]<br />
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*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]] PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.<br />
*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:20, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.<br />
*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Relative ====<br />
Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?<br />
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*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.<br />
**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]<br />
**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.<br />
*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Dilbert ====<br />
The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.<br />
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''Also seen worded as:''<br />
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The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.<br />
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*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''<br />
*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' I dident know that<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Buh-hubs ====<br />
In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Someday ====<br />
In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].<br />
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*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental cliché, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== League of Women Voters ====<br />
"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.<br />
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*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===<br />
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==== Dr Zoidberg ====<br />
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The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.<br />
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot <i>is</i>, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[2 years]] ===<br />
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==== Mormon Missionary ====<br />
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===<br />
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==== Fat Cheat ====<br />
according to the Cheats hieght and weight his Body Mass Index is 64.6 normal weight is between 18.5 and 24.9 and obesity starts at 30 [[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and bad spelling. The Cheat is not a human, so BMI doesn't apply to him. Would you use BMI to see if a dog is overweight? [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:36, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:38, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:16, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This isn't AIM.--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:53, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[huttah!]] ===<br />
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====Title====<br />
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy. <br />
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*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.<br />
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=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===<br />
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=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===<br />
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...<br />
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*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!<br />
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.<br />
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==== Homestar's Clock ====<br />
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.<br />
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*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki><br />
**You know alot about clocks.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' To something like: <br />
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator! <br />
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Egg Nog Glass ====<br />
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====<br />
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].<br />
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*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== Dripping Sound ====<br />
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Slippers ====<br />
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Blade man ====<br />
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The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.<br />
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Alms for the poor ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.<br />
**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Charlie Brown ====<br />
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The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon.<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Wizard of Oz ====<br />
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Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Beat It ====<br />
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Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Marzipan's Purse ====<br />
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Screentime ====<br />
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The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!<br />
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====<br />
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.<br />
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* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]<br />
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.<br />
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
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==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====<br />
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"<br />
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* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````<br />
*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's Phone ====<br />
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Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].<br />
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*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]<br />
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== It's odd considering... ====<br />
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It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.<br />
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*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)<br />
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]<br />
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.<br />
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Alms for the Pudgy ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== 1 on 1 ====<br />
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This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]<br />
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==== Electrical Tape? ====<br />
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Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====<br />
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Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
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*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]<br />
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==== "state trooper" ====<br />
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)<br />
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(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)<br />
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''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM<br />
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*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*<b> Decline </b> Janik<br />
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==== A running gag? ====<br />
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)<br />
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* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)<br />
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]<br />
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]<br />
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[radio]] ===<br />
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====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====<br />
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====<br />
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The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
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=== [[animal]] ===<br />
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==== check out all my dimensions ====<br />
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."<br />
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*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Lappy Startup Screen ====<br />
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8]. --[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]<br />
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== The Price is Right... Again ====<br />
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.<br />
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*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:<br />
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes<br />
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre><br />
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat<br />
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Just me being picky ====<br />
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)<br />
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]<br />
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Weird laptop ====<br />
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)<br />
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*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)<br />
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Off-screen typing ====<br />
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.<br />
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*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...<br />
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the<br />
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible<br />
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre><br />
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Babies havin' babies ====<br />
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/<br />
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* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====<br />
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When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.<br />
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=== [[virus]] ===<br />
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==== Quadratic formula ====<br />
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.<br />
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt><br />
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]<br />
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
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==== Pi ====<br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.<br />
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*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Maybe just <br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),<br />
which is an infinite number.<br />
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== 3D Bubs legs ====<br />
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman<br />
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.<br />
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====<br />
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.<br />
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*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Homsar's walking sound ====<br />
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Edgar's anachronism ====<br />
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.<br />
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*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.<br />
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy<br />
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Gilligan's Island? ====<br />
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.<br />
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*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]<br />
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence.<br />
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===<br />
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==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====<br />
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.<br />
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*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====<br />
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====<br />
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===<br />
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==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====<br />
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===<br />
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==== Large Blank Space ====<br />
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.<br />
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'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===<br />
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==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====<br />
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In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[anything]] ===<br />
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==== Dan VS. Jerome ====<br />
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The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.<br />
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*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s><br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004<br />
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]<br />
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===<br />
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==== The Only Time? ====<br />
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)<br />
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s><br />
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====<br />
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone. <br />
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'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]<br />
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=== [[montage]] ===<br />
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==== hellboy ====<br />
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.<br />
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*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== scoreboard ====<br />
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.<br />
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==== ketchup ====<br />
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]<br />
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==Games==<br />
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===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===<br />
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====Wagon Wheel====<br />
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
<br />
== General ==<br />
<br />
=== Cross-Toon Facts ===<br />
<br />
==== Trust ====<br />
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.<br />
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''<br />
**'''Decline''' Ditto. &mdash; [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/radio
radio
2005-01-20T15:54:38Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Remarks */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:deadlypallor.png|thumb|Strong Sad: Shock jock?]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #120'''<br />
<br />
Strong Bad gives some advice on how to be a radio host, in various genres. <br />
<br />
'''Cast (In order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Sad]]/[[The Deathly Pallor]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Strong Bad]], [[Strong Mad]] (Easter Egg), [[The Sneak]] (Easter Egg)<br />
<br />
'''Date:''' December 13, 2004<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' I got miles and miles of the e-mail style. Miles and miles of the e-mail style.<br />
<br />
''{types in "strongbad_email.exe"}''<br />
<br />
<pre>subject: radio<br />
Dear Strong Bad,<br />
My friends are radio hosts. Any chance you could give<br />
them any pointers on what they can say/do on their show?<br />
bowing to you<br />
Fraser, Scotland</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh, no need to bow, Fraser. Get up. ''{reverently}'' Rise, my son. And giveth me instead, $7.50 with which to buy some buffalo chicken tenders. ''{clears the screen}'' So your "friends" are radio show hosts, huh? Well, the first rule of thumb for all radio personalities is to look absolutely nothing like how they sound. Take Ol' Greystoke for instance.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Strong Sad standing in his room}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice-over}'' Now here's a whiny know-it-all who sounds just like he looks.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' Why thank you, Senator.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice-over}'' Quit calling me that. Anyway, if Strong Sad was a radio host, he'd sound like this:<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{In radio host voice}'' Hey hey hey, it's the Deathly Pallor, coming at you on numbitty 902, WA3D FM, "The Sturge." Coming up next, we got some hot new tracks from double-O ballyhoo! <br />
<br />
''{Strong Sad covers his mouth in horror while Strong Bad laughs.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{normal voice/frightened}'' Don't you ever make me do that again! <br />
<br />
''{Cut back to Lappy 486.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So once they've got the voice/appearance mismatch working, then it all just depends on what kind of radio station they work for. Listen and loin as I run my test sentence through the various genres.<br />
<br />
'''Voice-over:''' Strong Bad's test sentence is "The fish was delish and it made quite a dish." ''{The sentence appears on-screen.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' First up is public radio: smooth n' smarmy.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Marzipan's kitchen. A radio is sitting on the counter.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Public Radio host}'' Today on Capitol Hill, the fish was delish, and according to U.N. secretary council members, it made quite a dish. You are listening to member-supported public radio.<br />
<br />
''{Public Radio theme song plays. Marzipan walks in.}''<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' Dang old public radio. I never got my totebag.<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to Lappy 486.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Next up is the drive time morning show. ''{A morning show poster with two Strong Bad-like hosts appears onscreen.}'' Oooh, these guys are like bad stand up comics that you can't heckle. Or jeckle. Or throw highball glasses at.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a clock-radio.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as morning talk show host, with sound effects in the background}'' Rise and shine, people! The fish was delish. ''{canned laughter}'' Wait for it, wait for it! ''{clowny sounds}'' And it made quite a dish.<br />
<br />
''{Cut back from the clock-radio to show Homestar in his house with a Public Radio totebag over his head, holding a glass containing a brown liquid with ice cubes.}'' <br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, squawk box! Shut it up about the fish already. <br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' I guess that's the way ''{honk honk}'' the cookie crumbles. <br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hi-ball! ''{throws his glass at radio}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to Lappy 486.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Then, there's the utter misery that is college radio. Where they apparently just let any bewildered freshman wander in to the booth and try to run a radio station. <br />
<br />
''{Cut to a boombox containing a blank tape.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as college radio host, over a song ending and some feedback}'' Uh, that, that was "The fish was delish" and we heard... track... ''{thumbing through CD jewel cases}'' six... "It Made Quite a Dish."<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Strong Sad's room, where he is sitting next to the boombox writing some calligraphy.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{on radio}'' Um... ca... campus outreach is looking for... hang on...<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to Lappy 486.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' College radio can pretty much be summed up in 5 words: <br><br />
Dead air, um, dead air.<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to the boombox}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as college radio host}'' Okay, I am out of here for today, but um, but first up is an, um, er... an... an hour of chanting.<br />
<br />
''{A chant plays on the boombox. Strong Sad hits the Play and Record buttons.}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to Lappy 486.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And just in case your friends are um, in the past: here's old-timey radio.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to 1936 style and an old-timey radio, with The Strong Bad reading in front of a microphone.}''<br />
<br />
'''THE STRONG BAD:''' ''{as old-timey radio host}'' This week on The Fish Was Delish progrum, brought to you by Portly Washboy laundry paste, ''{Portly Washboy Fancy Laundry Paste logo appears}'' we join The Fish down at the wharfs as he closes in on the Quite a Dish gang's hideout. Stay tuned for partial excitement. <br />
<br />
''{The [[Portly Washboy Fancy Laundry Paste|Portly Washboy]] logo appears again. It depicts a boy and a heaping jar of paste with a spoon in it.}''<br />
<br />
'''Voice-over:''' ''{singing}'' Portly Washboy: Don't eat it like the cartoon man. <br />
<br />
''{Cut back to Lappy 486.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Done and done, Fraser. Your friends should be well on their way to annoying drivers and gas station attendants the world over. Ooh! And see if you can score me some free coozies, frisbees, or bottle openers from their station. Those free giveaways: Highly flammable. <br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''<br />
<br />
<pre>Click here to e-mail Strong Bad<br />
strongbad@homestarrunner.com</pre><br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
* Click on Strong Sad's stomach while he does the radio voice to see him wearing a T-shirt from WA3D FM "The Sturge."<br />
*Click on "The fish was delish, and it made quite a dish" to show a Dr. Seuss-style children's book of the same name. It was written by Crazy Prof. Sportsinterviews (aka [[Leomard Sportsinterviews]]), who writes most of the children's books Strong Bad mangles.<br />
* Click on "coozies, frisbees, or bottle openers" after [[The Paper]] comes down to see them.<br />
*After the test sentence disappears, you can still click where it was to show the children's book.<br />
* Click on "annoying" after The Paper comes down to see/hear more of Strong Sad's new persona.<br />
:'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{normal voice}'' Oh, I disagree! I think it's more than just a matter of simple economics. In fact, I'd say...<br />
:'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{radio host voice and mannerisms, with music}'' Oh, yeah! What's the phrase that pays that plays for days? It's numbitty-nine-oh-two, "The Sturge." Don't you touch that BLABITTABLOUGH!<br />
:'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{confused}'' Blabittablough?<br />
* Click on "me" after The Paper comes down to see more of old-timey Strong Bad.<br />
:'''RADIO:''' ''{The Strong Bad}'' Stay tuned for partial excitement!<br />
:''{Portly Washboy Laundry Paste theme song plays over radio}''<br />
:'''THE STRONG BAD:''' ''{listening}'' Drat and double drat! It's true what they say! The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!<br />
*The left sleeve of Strong Sad's radio T-shirt disappears during parts of that Easter egg. If you click on him again, it reappears. (See the article image above.)<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Explanations===<br />
* "Four-and-twenty stone" is 336 pounds (one stone = 14 pounds), though it is probably a play on the saying that "the camera adds ten pounds." <br />
*There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''d'''.<br />
===Remarks===<br />
*The totebag on Homestar's head reads: ''PRS Public Radio Sounds "Smooth 'n Smarmy."'' This must be the totebag Marzipan's missing.<br />
*Homestar must have his lights set to come on with the radio alarm at 7:00 am; strangely, he is already up and having a drink.<br />
*Homestar's radio is set to about 96.1 FM or 850 AM.<br />
*Homestar must be a terrific athlete if he can nail a glass on a radio with a totebag over his head.<br />
*Just before Strong Sad speaks in his radio voice in the Easter Egg, it seems that he and ''Strong Mad,'' of all people, were having a deep conversation about some topic related to economics; perhaps Strong Mad is more intelligent than he lets on and simply does not articulate himself well.<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The whole totebag thing may be a hint to [[for kids]] where Homsar claimed that he was one himself.<br />
*This is the second time Strong Sad has confused Strong Mad by saying something weird. The first was in [[caffeine]], after he said "parakeet."<br />
*Strong Sad's calligraphy pen is also featured in his action figure in the Easter egg for [[action figure]], and from the [[Strong Bad Is in Jail Cartoon]].<br />
*The college radio station, [[WSBD|89.3 WSBD The Voice of CGNU]], refers to [[Crazy Go Nuts University]].<br />
*The [[Trivia Time]] cookie jar appears in Marzipan's kitchen.<br />
*Homestar's command of "shut it up" is a reference to The Cheat's [[crazy cartoon]].<br />
*Homestar's annoyance with his clock radio seems to reference [[sibbie]], where, after Strong Bad smashes the boombox, Homestar tells him "I've just about had it with that talking toaster."<br />
*This is the second time we've seen the interior of Homestar's House. The first was in [[caper]], when Strong Bad and The Cheat tried to steal his Jumbles. Apparently, someone fixed his cow lamp, which is seen at the righthand side of the screen.<br />
*Strong Sad refers to himself as "[[The Deathly Pallor]]," harking back to Coach Z's introduction of Strong Sad in the email [[impression]].<br />
*Strong Bad says the words "absolutely nothing" exactly the same way in the email [[website]].<br />
*"Progrum" is also a referance to "Strong Bad Type Interview Progrum" from [[pizzaz]]<br />
*Right at the very end of the chanting, one can hear the first two notes of the "Sweet Cuppin' Cakes" theme song, as seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].<br />
*Strong Bad being annoyed with Strong Sad for calling him "Senator" is a refrence to [[car]] where Strong Sad is annoyed with Strong Bad for calling him "Gron Sad."<br />
**Strong Sad calling Strong Bad "Senator" could possibly be a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] where Strong Bad poses as "Senator Statesbob."<br />
*The short theme heard while Marzipan listens to public radio is reminiscent of the [[Videlectrix]] theme.<br />
*The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in [[montage]].<br />
*Homestar with a bag on his head can most likely be a reference to [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], at the end when Homestar puts that bag on his head. On the other hand, it may be Marzipan's long lost tote bag.<br />
*The [[booOOMbox]] Strong Sad listens to was also seen in [[autobiography]]. However, it had no record button.<br />
<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
<br />
* A [[Wikipedia:Highball_glass|highball glass]] is a tall, narrow glass typically used to serve certain types of alcohol and cocktails. Homestar's glass, therefore, isn't a highball at all; it's a "Rocks Glass," which are generally short and stout.<br />
** Homestar's glass is the same one The Cheat had on the table in [[montage]] while smoking.<br />
*Marzipan's reference to the totebag has to do with public radio and/or TV stations often having on-air fundraisers where they offer gifts for different levels of donations.<br />
*The book "The fish was delish and it made quite a dish" (see Easter Eggs) is a spoof of [[Wikipedia:Dr. Seuss|Dr. Seuss]]'s books, even down to the name of the author, [[Lem Sportsinterviews|Lem 'The Crazy Prof.' Sportsinterviews]].<br />
*Marzipan's book ''Tolstoy Story 2'' is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Leo Tolstoy|Leo Tolstoy]], a famous Russian author, and also to the Disney/Pixar film ''[[Wikipedia:Toy Story 2|Toy Story 2]]''.<br />
* Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot," sounding like intense hisses, the mic can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness."<br />
*"PRS" is a playful combination of [http://www.pbs.org PBS], the Public Broadcasting Service, and [http://www.pri.org PRI], Public Radio International.<br />
*The "UN Secretary Council" represents a mix between the [http://www.un.org/News/ossg/sg/ UN Secretary-General] and the [http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/ UN Security Council], both of which sound similar and frequently make headlines on PBS and PRI.<br />
*The voice-over telling the viewer what the test phrase is is a reference to game shows like "[[Wikipedia:Password (game)|Password]]," where something similar would occur so that the viewers knew what the password was.<br />
*Judging by Strong Sad's T-shirt, "The Sturge" is short for [[Wikipedia:Sturgeon| sturgeon]], a large, rare fish and is an obvious spoof of radio stations named after animals. For example, ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077097/ WKRP in Cincinnati]'' had the mascot "the WKRP Carp."<br />
*"Heckle or jeckle" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia: Terrytoons|Terrytoons]] cartoon [http://www.toonopedia.com/hekljekl.htm Heckle and Jeckle].<br />
*In the old-timey Strong Bad Easter Egg, the way that Strong Bad pronounces radio ("rah-dio") is the same as how Nick Niespodziani of [http://www.pleaserock.com Y-O-U] pronounces it in the song [http://www.pleaserock.com/downloads/radio.mp3 Radio]. Y-O-U was the band that worked with [[The Brothers Chaps]] on the [[Strong Bad Sings CD]].<br />
*Sir Strong Bad saying "Drat and double drat!" is also said by Dick Dastardly from the '60s cartoon "The Wacky Races." Sir Strong Bad may be partially based on Dick Dastardly, as they share many characteristics.<br />
*89.3 is a real radio station in Atlanta, which, like college radio, has very bad hosts.<br />
**There are actually lots of 89.3 radio stations around America, and many of them are bound to be college stations. The low end of the FM radio spectrum (from 88.1-91.9) is reserved, in the US, for non-commercial stations, such as college radio, public radio, or Christian stations.<br />
*"The fish was delish and it made quite a dish" might be a reference to the short-lived Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles live action series called [http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServlet/showid-7740/ Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation]<br />
**The quote can be seen [http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Underworld/6703/page70.html here].<br />
*"Four and twenty stone" may be a reference to the nursery rhyme "Sing a song of sixpence" which tells of "four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie."<br />
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== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail120.html view "radio"]<br><br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail120.swf view the flash file for "radio"]<br />
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{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
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68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/radio
radio
2005-01-20T15:52:45Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Remarks */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:deadlypallor.png|thumb|Strong Sad: Shock jock?]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #120'''<br />
<br />
Strong Bad gives some advice on how to be a radio host, in various genres. <br />
<br />
'''Cast (In order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Sad]]/[[The Deathly Pallor]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Strong Bad]], [[Strong Mad]] (Easter Egg), [[The Sneak]] (Easter Egg)<br />
<br />
'''Date:''' December 13, 2004<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' I got miles and miles of the e-mail style. Miles and miles of the e-mail style.<br />
<br />
''{types in "strongbad_email.exe"}''<br />
<br />
<pre>subject: radio<br />
Dear Strong Bad,<br />
My friends are radio hosts. Any chance you could give<br />
them any pointers on what they can say/do on their show?<br />
bowing to you<br />
Fraser, Scotland</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh, no need to bow, Fraser. Get up. ''{reverently}'' Rise, my son. And giveth me instead, $7.50 with which to buy some buffalo chicken tenders. ''{clears the screen}'' So your "friends" are radio show hosts, huh? Well, the first rule of thumb for all radio personalities is to look absolutely nothing like how they sound. Take Ol' Greystoke for instance.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Strong Sad standing in his room}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice-over}'' Now here's a whiny know-it-all who sounds just like he looks.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' Why thank you, Senator.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice-over}'' Quit calling me that. Anyway, if Strong Sad was a radio host, he'd sound like this:<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{In radio host voice}'' Hey hey hey, it's the Deathly Pallor, coming at you on numbitty 902, WA3D FM, "The Sturge." Coming up next, we got some hot new tracks from double-O ballyhoo! <br />
<br />
''{Strong Sad covers his mouth in horror while Strong Bad laughs.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{normal voice/frightened}'' Don't you ever make me do that again! <br />
<br />
''{Cut back to Lappy 486.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So once they've got the voice/appearance mismatch working, then it all just depends on what kind of radio station they work for. Listen and loin as I run my test sentence through the various genres.<br />
<br />
'''Voice-over:''' Strong Bad's test sentence is "The fish was delish and it made quite a dish." ''{The sentence appears on-screen.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' First up is public radio: smooth n' smarmy.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Marzipan's kitchen. A radio is sitting on the counter.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Public Radio host}'' Today on Capitol Hill, the fish was delish, and according to U.N. secretary council members, it made quite a dish. You are listening to member-supported public radio.<br />
<br />
''{Public Radio theme song plays. Marzipan walks in.}''<br />
<br />
'''MARZIPAN:''' Dang old public radio. I never got my totebag.<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to Lappy 486.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Next up is the drive time morning show. ''{A morning show poster with two Strong Bad-like hosts appears onscreen.}'' Oooh, these guys are like bad stand up comics that you can't heckle. Or jeckle. Or throw highball glasses at.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a clock-radio.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as morning talk show host, with sound effects in the background}'' Rise and shine, people! The fish was delish. ''{canned laughter}'' Wait for it, wait for it! ''{clowny sounds}'' And it made quite a dish.<br />
<br />
''{Cut back from the clock-radio to show Homestar in his house with a Public Radio totebag over his head, holding a glass containing a brown liquid with ice cubes.}'' <br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, squawk box! Shut it up about the fish already. <br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' I guess that's the way ''{honk honk}'' the cookie crumbles. <br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hi-ball! ''{throws his glass at radio}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to Lappy 486.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Then, there's the utter misery that is college radio. Where they apparently just let any bewildered freshman wander in to the booth and try to run a radio station. <br />
<br />
''{Cut to a boombox containing a blank tape.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as college radio host, over a song ending and some feedback}'' Uh, that, that was "The fish was delish" and we heard... track... ''{thumbing through CD jewel cases}'' six... "It Made Quite a Dish."<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Strong Sad's room, where he is sitting next to the boombox writing some calligraphy.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{on radio}'' Um... ca... campus outreach is looking for... hang on...<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to Lappy 486.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' College radio can pretty much be summed up in 5 words: <br><br />
Dead air, um, dead air.<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to the boombox}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as college radio host}'' Okay, I am out of here for today, but um, but first up is an, um, er... an... an hour of chanting.<br />
<br />
''{A chant plays on the boombox. Strong Sad hits the Play and Record buttons.}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut back to Lappy 486.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And just in case your friends are um, in the past: here's old-timey radio.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to 1936 style and an old-timey radio, with The Strong Bad reading in front of a microphone.}''<br />
<br />
'''THE STRONG BAD:''' ''{as old-timey radio host}'' This week on The Fish Was Delish progrum, brought to you by Portly Washboy laundry paste, ''{Portly Washboy Fancy Laundry Paste logo appears}'' we join The Fish down at the wharfs as he closes in on the Quite a Dish gang's hideout. Stay tuned for partial excitement. <br />
<br />
''{The [[Portly Washboy Fancy Laundry Paste|Portly Washboy]] logo appears again. It depicts a boy and a heaping jar of paste with a spoon in it.}''<br />
<br />
'''Voice-over:''' ''{singing}'' Portly Washboy: Don't eat it like the cartoon man. <br />
<br />
''{Cut back to Lappy 486.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Done and done, Fraser. Your friends should be well on their way to annoying drivers and gas station attendants the world over. Ooh! And see if you can score me some free coozies, frisbees, or bottle openers from their station. Those free giveaways: Highly flammable. <br />
<br />
''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''<br />
<br />
<pre>Click here to e-mail Strong Bad<br />
strongbad@homestarrunner.com</pre><br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
* Click on Strong Sad's stomach while he does the radio voice to see him wearing a T-shirt from WA3D FM "The Sturge."<br />
*Click on "The fish was delish, and it made quite a dish" to show a Dr. Seuss-style children's book of the same name. It was written by Crazy Prof. Sportsinterviews (aka [[Leomard Sportsinterviews]]), who writes most of the children's books Strong Bad mangles.<br />
* Click on "coozies, frisbees, or bottle openers" after [[The Paper]] comes down to see them.<br />
*After the test sentence disappears, you can still click where it was to show the children's book.<br />
* Click on "annoying" after The Paper comes down to see/hear more of Strong Sad's new persona.<br />
:'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{normal voice}'' Oh, I disagree! I think it's more than just a matter of simple economics. In fact, I'd say...<br />
:'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{radio host voice and mannerisms, with music}'' Oh, yeah! What's the phrase that pays that plays for days? It's numbitty-nine-oh-two, "The Sturge." Don't you touch that BLABITTABLOUGH!<br />
:'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{confused}'' Blabittablough?<br />
* Click on "me" after The Paper comes down to see more of old-timey Strong Bad.<br />
:'''RADIO:''' ''{The Strong Bad}'' Stay tuned for partial excitement!<br />
:''{Portly Washboy Laundry Paste theme song plays over radio}''<br />
:'''THE STRONG BAD:''' ''{listening}'' Drat and double drat! It's true what they say! The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!<br />
*The left sleeve of Strong Sad's radio T-shirt disappears during parts of that Easter egg. If you click on him again, it reappears. (See the article image above.)<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Explanations===<br />
* "Four-and-twenty stone" is 336 pounds (one stone = 14 pounds), though it is probably a play on the saying that "the camera adds ten pounds." <br />
*There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''d'''.<br />
===Remarks===<br />
*The totebag on Homestar's head reads: ''PRS Public Radio Sounds "Smooth 'n Smarmy."'' This must be the totebag Marzipan's missing.<br />
*Homestar must have his lights set to come on with the radio alarm at 7:00 am; strangely, he is already up and having a drink.<br />
*Homestar's radio is set to about 96.1 FM or 850 AM.<br />
*Homestar must be a terrific athlete if he can nail a glass on a radio with a totebag over his head.<br />
*Just before Strong Sad speaks in his radio voice in the Easter Egg, it seems that he and ''Strong Mad,'' of all people, were having a deep conversation about some topic related to economics.<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
*The whole totebag thing may be a hint to [[for kids]] where Homsar claimed that he was one himself.<br />
*This is the second time Strong Sad has confused Strong Mad by saying something weird. The first was in [[caffeine]], after he said "parakeet."<br />
*Strong Sad's calligraphy pen is also featured in his action figure in the Easter egg for [[action figure]], and from the [[Strong Bad Is in Jail Cartoon]].<br />
*The college radio station, [[WSBD|89.3 WSBD The Voice of CGNU]], refers to [[Crazy Go Nuts University]].<br />
*The [[Trivia Time]] cookie jar appears in Marzipan's kitchen.<br />
*Homestar's command of "shut it up" is a reference to The Cheat's [[crazy cartoon]].<br />
*Homestar's annoyance with his clock radio seems to reference [[sibbie]], where, after Strong Bad smashes the boombox, Homestar tells him "I've just about had it with that talking toaster."<br />
*This is the second time we've seen the interior of Homestar's House. The first was in [[caper]], when Strong Bad and The Cheat tried to steal his Jumbles. Apparently, someone fixed his cow lamp, which is seen at the righthand side of the screen.<br />
*Strong Sad refers to himself as "[[The Deathly Pallor]]," harking back to Coach Z's introduction of Strong Sad in the email [[impression]].<br />
*Strong Bad says the words "absolutely nothing" exactly the same way in the email [[website]].<br />
*"Progrum" is also a referance to "Strong Bad Type Interview Progrum" from [[pizzaz]]<br />
*Right at the very end of the chanting, one can hear the first two notes of the "Sweet Cuppin' Cakes" theme song, as seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].<br />
*Strong Bad being annoyed with Strong Sad for calling him "Senator" is a refrence to [[car]] where Strong Sad is annoyed with Strong Bad for calling him "Gron Sad."<br />
**Strong Sad calling Strong Bad "Senator" could possibly be a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] where Strong Bad poses as "Senator Statesbob."<br />
*The short theme heard while Marzipan listens to public radio is reminiscent of the [[Videlectrix]] theme.<br />
*The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in [[montage]].<br />
*Homestar with a bag on his head can most likely be a reference to [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], at the end when Homestar puts that bag on his head. On the other hand, it may be Marzipan's long lost tote bag.<br />
*The [[booOOMbox]] Strong Sad listens to was also seen in [[autobiography]]. However, it had no record button.<br />
<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
<br />
* A [[Wikipedia:Highball_glass|highball glass]] is a tall, narrow glass typically used to serve certain types of alcohol and cocktails. Homestar's glass, therefore, isn't a highball at all; it's a "Rocks Glass," which are generally short and stout.<br />
** Homestar's glass is the same one The Cheat had on the table in [[montage]] while smoking.<br />
*Marzipan's reference to the totebag has to do with public radio and/or TV stations often having on-air fundraisers where they offer gifts for different levels of donations.<br />
*The book "The fish was delish and it made quite a dish" (see Easter Eggs) is a spoof of [[Wikipedia:Dr. Seuss|Dr. Seuss]]'s books, even down to the name of the author, [[Lem Sportsinterviews|Lem 'The Crazy Prof.' Sportsinterviews]].<br />
*Marzipan's book ''Tolstoy Story 2'' is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Leo Tolstoy|Leo Tolstoy]], a famous Russian author, and also to the Disney/Pixar film ''[[Wikipedia:Toy Story 2|Toy Story 2]]''.<br />
* Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot," sounding like intense hisses, the mic can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness."<br />
*"PRS" is a playful combination of [http://www.pbs.org PBS], the Public Broadcasting Service, and [http://www.pri.org PRI], Public Radio International.<br />
*The "UN Secretary Council" represents a mix between the [http://www.un.org/News/ossg/sg/ UN Secretary-General] and the [http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/ UN Security Council], both of which sound similar and frequently make headlines on PBS and PRI.<br />
*The voice-over telling the viewer what the test phrase is is a reference to game shows like "[[Wikipedia:Password (game)|Password]]," where something similar would occur so that the viewers knew what the password was.<br />
*Judging by Strong Sad's T-shirt, "The Sturge" is short for [[Wikipedia:Sturgeon| sturgeon]], a large, rare fish and is an obvious spoof of radio stations named after animals. For example, ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077097/ WKRP in Cincinnati]'' had the mascot "the WKRP Carp."<br />
*"Heckle or jeckle" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia: Terrytoons|Terrytoons]] cartoon [http://www.toonopedia.com/hekljekl.htm Heckle and Jeckle].<br />
*In the old-timey Strong Bad Easter Egg, the way that Strong Bad pronounces radio ("rah-dio") is the same as how Nick Niespodziani of [http://www.pleaserock.com Y-O-U] pronounces it in the song [http://www.pleaserock.com/downloads/radio.mp3 Radio]. Y-O-U was the band that worked with [[The Brothers Chaps]] on the [[Strong Bad Sings CD]].<br />
*Sir Strong Bad saying "Drat and double drat!" is also said by Dick Dastardly from the '60s cartoon "The Wacky Races." Sir Strong Bad may be partially based on Dick Dastardly, as they share many characteristics.<br />
*89.3 is a real radio station in Atlanta, which, like college radio, has very bad hosts.<br />
**There are actually lots of 89.3 radio stations around America, and many of them are bound to be college stations. The low end of the FM radio spectrum (from 88.1-91.9) is reserved, in the US, for non-commercial stations, such as college radio, public radio, or Christian stations.<br />
*"The fish was delish and it made quite a dish" might be a reference to the short-lived Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles live action series called [http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServlet/showid-7740/ Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation]<br />
**The quote can be seen [http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Underworld/6703/page70.html here].<br />
*"Four and twenty stone" may be a reference to the nursery rhyme "Sing a song of sixpence" which tells of "four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie."<br />
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== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail120.html view "radio"]<br><br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail120.swf view the flash file for "radio"]<br />
<br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Lappy 486 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]][[Category:Marzipan Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:The Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:The Sneak Filmography]][[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/english_paper
english paper
2005-01-20T05:55:15Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Trivia */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:sbemail64.PNG|thumb|A Well Thought-Out Englilsh Paper]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #64'''<br />
<br />
"The Yellow Dart" asks Strong Bad to write his englilsh paper for him.<br />
<br />
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]]<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Come on guys! Get your heads in the game.<br />
<br />
''{reading}''<br />
<br />
<pre>Dear Strong Bad,<br />
Right now I am putting off writing a<br />
paper for my English class. Can you<br />
write my Englilsh paper for me? I<br />
don't even care if it's good or not,<br />
I just don't want to do it.<br />
<br />
Kyle Smith,<br />
Manhattan, Kansas</pre><br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad stops and says "Ahh. Never get tired of how that sounds" after reading "Dear Strong Bad"}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Umm... ''{typing}'' I don't really think you need to worry about it being any good if YOU write it, Kyle. But I'll take a crack at it.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to a blank sheet of paper. As Strong Bad details more about the paper, it appears onscreen.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So let's start out with the title page. "A Well Thought-Out Englilsh Paper" by Kyle Smith. You know, it couldn't hurt to soup up your name a little bit, Kyle. Y'know, like throw a cool nickname in there, like Kyle "The Yellow Dart" Smith. Oh yeah! That right there will get you five to ten extra credit points easy. Then you move into the introduction. ''{Strong Bad starts typing the essay}'' Chances are, this is all your teacher's gonna read before they give you a grade, so...that's why the cool nickname is so important. "The Yellow Dart." I'm awesome. Then you got the body, which is-a my personal favorite...<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Hey Strong Bad! I'm inside your house.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover, while typing the essay}'' Oh. That sucks. What can I do for ya?<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Can I have the rest of this breakfast burrito?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' I guess. What do you want it for?<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Umm... I'm gonna try and sell it at some type of online auction.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Hey, do whatcha gotta do. Look, I'm busy writing a paper for my man "The Yellow Dart" over here.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Okay bye! ''{runs off}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{to Homestar, still voiceover}''Uh, you won't get more than 3.50 for it! Believe me, I've tried.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the essay as written sitting on a desk}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Okay, so I think we're just about done. We just need to apply a little double-space action... ''{The essay becomes doublespaced}'' or, uh...maybe a little triple-space action... ''{The essay becomes triplespaced}'' then I'd beef it up with some random diagrams...that can't hurt.<br />
<br />
''{The diagram is a comparison of eating one battery to eating five batteries. Cut to Strong Bad sitting in front of the computer}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' I think it's pretty good as-is, but, uh...couldn't hurt to throw a little cash in there to uh...seal the deal. ''{typing}'' Alright The Yellow Dart, you owe me, man. Can't nobody say Strong Bad never did nothing for the peoples. Now it is my intention to sit down and play video games for several hours.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad gets up, [[The Paper]] comes down, and the essay appears onscreen}''<br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
*At the end of it, flip to the page after the title page and click on the words "the cheat's allowance" to see the online auction for the breakfast burrito![http://www.homestarrunner.com/auction.html]<br />
<br />
*Keep flipping through the paper and after it flips back to the front you'll be able to download the paper in Word format.<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*Originally, the cash was scanned pictures of actual money. However, someone didn't think this was a very good idea, and the Chaps scrapped it.<br />
*Kyle "The Yellow Dart" Smith allegedly reported via an Internet forum that he actually did submit Strong Bad's English paper along with his own real one.<br />
<br />
===Remarks===<br />
*According to the auction easter egg, Homestar's screen name is witchesbrew82 -- yet another in a long line of [[Witches' Brew]] references.<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*It is possible, albeit a stretch, that "The Yellow Dart" is a reference to filmmaker ''Kevin'' Smith (''Clerks'', etc.), who once wrote the comic book adventures of Green Arrow.<br />
<br />
== The Paper ==<br />
<pre>"A Well Thought-Out Englilsh Paper"<br />
by Kyle "The Yellow Dart" Smith<br />
<br />
Since maybe like the Middle Ages, there have been many<br />
differing opinions on hustle and bustle. This cannot be<br />
denied. It is my intention to sit down and play video games<br />
for several hours.<br />
First, moving around quickly, and with purpose, is a<br />
true sign of character. Secondarily, bustle(e.g. hustle)<br />
yields more product for the working types. "Hustle and bustle<br />
are like my right and left arms," said Li'l Spicy in his famous<br />
"Hustle and Bustle Are Like My Right and Left Arms" speech.<br />
Webster's defines bustle as "excited and often noisy activity;<br />
a stir." A stir, indeed. Finally, sometimes gross stuff can<br />
be funny.<br />
In conclusion, I, "The Yellow Dart," think I have done a<br />
great job illustrating the many differing opinions about hustle<br />
and bustle, may they both rest in peace. Also, I think Strong<br />
Bad should decrease The Cheat's allowance.</pre><br />
<br />
''{Page Three features the batteries diagrams, and Page 4 features fake money taped to a piece of paper}''<br />
<br />
== DVD Version ==<br />
*The Englilsh Paper is only accessable via a hidden Strong Bad icon in the lower-right corner of the Compy 386 screen. However, you now get to hear Strong Bad read the paper out loud! As well, there is some additional dialogue near the end of this.<br />
**'''STRONG BAD:''' Eating one battery. Eating five batteries. Oh, that guy has got quite a gullet. ''{turns to page four}'' And what I like to call a little... inshoirance.<br />
*The Breakfast Burrito is accessable via a hidden Strong Bad icon in the lower-left corner of the Compy 386 screen instead of through the Englilsh Paper. Like with the Englilsh Paper, you get to hear Homestar Runner read it.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail64.html watch "english paper"]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail64.swf view the flash file for "english paper"]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/auction.html view the auction]<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/englishpaper.doc read the english paper]<br />
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{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Poorly_Written_Emails
Poorly Written Emails
2005-01-20T05:54:07Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Emails With Poor Spelling */</p>
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<div>Strong Bad regularly receives [[Strong Bad Email|emails]] with poor grammar and spelling, for which he is notoriously a stickler. He even released a entertaining/informational CD on the subject, "Strong Bad's Rhythm 'n' Grammar."<br />
<br />
While many emails do contain these sort of errors, this list only contains errors that are either famous in their own right or have affected how Strong Bad read the email.<br />
<br />
==Emails With Poor Grammar ==<br />
*[[trevor the vampire]] - Trevor's email ends unexpectedly.<br />
*[[the basics]] - T.J. ends "how do you do it" with a period rather than a question mark, and has an unnecessary apostrophe in "trick's" (which Strong Bad does not notice).<br />
*[[sugarbob]] - Typed in ALLCAPS and contains a run-on sentence.<br />
*[[sisters]] - Ali uses "is" instead of "are." As well, the anonymous author of the second email seems to have a very tenuous grasp of the English language.<br />
*[[guitar]] - The first line is a run-on sentence. Also, "whats" should be "what's."<br />
*[[little questions]] - Viklas from Sweden's English leaves a little to be desired.<br />
*[[lures & jigs]] - David says "fishs" instead of just "fish".<br />
*[[your friends]] - Typed in ALLCAPS<br />
*[[dragon]] - Kaizer asks to see his "skills of an artist." As well, uses internet shorthand in the signature.<br />
*[[marzipan]] - Emily C.'s second sentence is confusingly structured.<br />
*[[huttah!]] - HOLMES types in allcaps, and also asks "WHERE IS YOU SHIRT???"<br />
*[[unused emails]] - Dan Chase uses "showed" instead of "shown."<br />
*[[sibbie]] - Sibbie's grammar leaves a lot to be desired, including using "your are" instead of "you're" and using "most awesomest."<br />
*[[kids' book]] - Changes tenses about halfway through.<br />
*[[local news]] - Dan uses the wrong form of "its," causing Strong Bad to sing one of his Rhythm 'n' Grammar songs.<br />
*[[car]] - Features a run-on sentence and some very random capitalization.<br />
*[[other days]] - Janus seems to have much the same problems with English Viklas had.<br />
*[[pizzaz]] - Ryan N.'s line in the signature has no punctuation and doesn't make a whole lot of sense.<br />
*[[animal]] - Spud Jr.'s "What would you like as if" doesn't make much sense.<br />
*[[dreamail]] - Danny uses "Another" instead of "In other."<br />
*[[E-mail Birds]] - bettina's email is one large sentence with no punctuation whatsoever. As well, Naomi seems to have a somewhat tenuous grasp of the English language.<br />
*[[Videro Games]] - Wilbur uses "in" when he doesn't need to, resulting in "the effects of in video games on children."<br />
<br />
<br />
== Emails With Poor Spelling ==<br />
*[[homsar]] - The most famous of all spelling errors, Vinnie C. misspells Homestar as [[Homsar]].<br />
*[[i love you]] - Uses internet shorthand and has the first appearance of a very famous [[Fhqwhgads|gibberish name]].<br />
*[[i she be]] - Along with an extreme lack of punctuation, misspells "should" as "she."<br />
*[[stand-up]] - No capitalization, an unnecessary comma, and misspellings of "your" ("ur"), "funny" ("funy") and "comedic" ("comidic").<br />
*[[cartoon]] - Besides not capitalizing the beginning of the sentence or using punctuation, the writer uses all internet shorthand. In addition, he appears to mis-spell his own name, "geroge".<br />
*[[invisibility]] - sin studly17 misspells "invisible" as "invisable," along with not capitalizing and using a few too many question marks.<br />
*[[50 emails]] - Matt emails "Stong Bad".<br />
*[[comic]] - Brittany mis-types "They" as "Tey" and "appriciate" instead of "appreciate".<br />
*[[english paper]] - Kyle misspells "english" as "englilsh"<br />
*[[the show]] - Tori misspells "tournament" as "tounament".<br />
*[[privileges]] - crazyclemens misspells "privileges" as "privaleges," as well as spelling Strong Bad as one word.<br />
*[[the process]] - Along with accidentally omitting the word "take" from a sentence, Em misspells "process" as "prosess."<br />
*[[couch patch]] - "your pal" misspells "from" as "form" and "behind" as "behiend."<br />
*[[lunch special]] - "Someone" misspells "lunch special" as "luncch specials" and "Sincerely" as "Sincerly."<br />
*[[haircut]] - Harry (purposely) misspells "cool" as "coull." Also, his second sentence is a run-on.<br />
*[[theme park]] - Along with a run-on sentence, Rafael misspells "business" as "buisness."<br />
*[[dangeresque 3]] - john newell spells "coming" as "comeing."<br />
*[[time capsule]] - Besides barely capitalizing, Sam mis-types "you're" as "your're".<br />
*[[montage]] - [[User:porplemontage|Steve]] misspells "create" as "creat."<br />
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[[Category:Running Gags]]</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/part-time_job
part-time job
2005-01-20T05:23:19Z
<p>68.15.244.8: /* Transcript */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Image:sbemail121.PNG|thumb|Look out for Number 1! ]]<br />
<br />
'''Strong Bad Email #121'''<br />
<br />
Strong Bad proves he does more than just write e-mails, by showing everyone his part-time job!<br />
<br />
'''Cast (In order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Bubs]], [[Coach Z]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Mrs. Bennedetto]]<br />
<br />
'''Date:''' January 3, 2005<br />
<br />
== Transcript ==<br />
<br />
''{As usual, Strong Bad is in front of his Lappy, checking his e-mail. Judging from the view of the room we can see around the Lappy, however, he does not seem to be at his desk, as he usually would be.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': A lot of ladies and a lot of girls... some healthy ladies and some healthy girls! <br />
<pre>subject: besides..<br />
Dear Strongbad,<br />
Do you do anything besides checking e-mails?<br />
<br />
Sincerely, Hunter</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' Waudju- gighi- ikuh... What do you mean do I do anything besides checking e-mails. 'Course I freakin' do! I do everything! Always! ''{clears the screen}'' Nature walks, Meet N' Greets, Bus Chucker Club, The League of Me and The Cheat Ice Cream Socials. Shut up! I even have a part-part-part-part-very part-time job, to which I am currently 15 minutes late.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to the lower area of Marzipan's kitchen. Strong Bad has apparently been checking this e-mail under Marzipan's kitchen table. Homestar walks in, and is holding a tennis ball.}''<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad looks around in a panicked way.}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': This is perfect! Just perfect! I couldn't be happier with my new invention! I'll call it... the Super Question Machine!!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{whispering}'' I gotta try to sneak out of here without Homestar noticing me.<br />
<br />
''{Homestar sets his tennis ball down on the table.}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah you do.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' I gotta think of some kind of diversion...<br />
<br />
''{The Cheat walks in, humming to himself, wearing a top hat entitled "Tito" and a bowtie, and holding a cane. Homestar turns around to look at him. The camera pans left. The Cheat begins doing a dance.}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, wow! What a great new invention!<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad crawls out from under the table, and gives The Cheat the thumbs up.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Nice work, The Cheat!<br />
<br />
''{He proceeds to crawl away, while The Cheat's still humming.}''<br />
<br />
''{Cut to Bubs' empty concession stand.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{quietly while peeking out from [[Fourth Wall Breaks|behind the black]]}'' This is perfect! Bubs must be passed out on the floor again.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad disappears behind the screen, and begins walking toward the Stand.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Comin' in to work on time..<br />
<br />
''{Bubs pops up from under the counter. Strong Bad lets out a short yell.}''<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' Aha! <br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' {''Yells, then stutters a little.''}<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' Late again, Strong Bad. I'm not running a country club, you know.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Quickly}'' But Mr. Bubs, I was just-<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' ''{Interrupts}'' Wastin' time on that email show of yours again. That mess'll never get you anywhere!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes it will! You'll see! I'm gonna be big one day. I'm gonna be a famous email checker.<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' And I'm gonna be two times two. Now put on your uniform and get to work!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' You're gonna be ''what''?<br />
<br />
''{The screen fades out and resumes to Strong Bad wearing a combination of a sad clown and a hotdog costume in front of Bubs' stand. Strong Bad is holding a paper, and a stack of papers sits next to him.}''<br />
<br />
''The papers all say:''<br />
<br />
<pre>GET YOU A FREE CUP OF ICE WITH PURCHASE OF DELUXE CUP OF ICE OF EQUAL OR LESSER VALUE<br />
BUBS' CONSESSION STAND</pre><br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right! Come on down to Bubs' and get you a free cup of ice with purchase of deluxe cup of ice for equal or lesser value.<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' No, no. Work it, son, work it!<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad begins dancing and humming.}''<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' That's it, that's it! Look out for Number 1!<br />
<br />
''{Coach Z walks in.}''<br />
<br />
'''COACH Z:''' Hey, it's the hot dog clown! What fun!<br />
<br />
''{Pom Pom's silhouette merges in.}''<br />
<br />
'''COACH Z:''' Pom Pom, take a picture of me with the hot dog clown. It'll be classic!<br />
<br />
''{Pom Pom bubbles, and takes out a camera. A huge flash is seen, and a camera shutter sound is heard. Coach Z falls over, leaning on Strong Bad.}<br />
<br />
''{The camera zooms in to Bubs.}''<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' Pictures with the tragic clown dog ain't free! Fifty bucks! ''Sixty'' bucks! Get back here and let me confiscate your film!<br />
'' {The camera zooms back out to the four of them.}''<br />
<br />
'''COACH Z:''' ''{running}'' Chorce, forsh! ''{He and Pom Pom run off screen.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' It's a great day at Bubs' Concession Stand! Sign up now for giving us money!<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' Now isn't this better than sitting at your desk answerin' emails?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Actually I was sitting under a kitchen table this week and.. uh oh! The Lappy's probably almost out of juice! I need to get back and end this email! Uhh.. say Bubs, I'm gonna need now off. Is that cool?<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' Is Strong Sad cool?<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh come on.<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' You know all my policies! I'm not running a country club, you know.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay then I quit.<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' Fine! But don't even think about swiping that costume!<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' You made me buy this costume, remember?<br />
<br />
'''BUBS:''' Oh. Right. Well then pleasure doing business with you.<br />
<br />
''{Strong Bad runs off in the costume.}<br />
<br />
''{We cut back to the kitchen, where The Cheat has fallen over, still humming, and Homestar is standing over him. Strong Bad, now without costume, crawls back in.}''<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' This is the most amazing undersea epic ever filmed.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' See, Hunter? I got all types of stuff going on. I've got so many facets, you don't even know what facets are. I'm like a hundredaire socialite out on the sce-<br />
<br />
''{The Lappy powers down.}''<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh great. The battery ran out. I gotta figure out a way to end this email.<br />
<br />
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah you do.<br />
<br />
''{Cut to [[Mrs. Bennedetto]]. Strong Bad slaps a paper on it with some text and a picture of him on it.}''<br />
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<pre>yeah buddy,<br />
i have muscles!<br />
<br />
ps: preeeeow</pre><br />
<br />
''{The Paper DOES NOT come down on its own!}''<br />
<br />
== Easter Eggs ==<br />
* Click on "Bus Chucker Club" to see a post-it of Strong Bad's member badge.<br />
* Click on "preeeeow" to make [[The Paper]] come down.<br />
* Click on the microwave's "Broast" button to see "[[Hundredaire Socialite|Hundredaire Socialite magazine]]", featuring "The Brains Behind [[Videlectrix]]".<br />
* Click on the "Power" button to watch an extra scene with Strong Bad and Bubs.<br />
<br />
=== Easter Egg Transcript ===<br />
''{Cut to Bubs on the Stage from [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. We see a pamphlet:}''<br />
<pre> T H E A T E R<br />
Dreamaway <br />
Johnny<br />
<br />
A Sweet 3-Acter<br />
Directed by Strong Bad<br />
Starring:<br />
Strong Bad and Buh-Hubs, man</pre><br />
<br />
''{The pamphlet zooms out. We see Bubs is standing in front of a cut-out of his stand reading MR LEGARM'S Bubs' Stand(Bubs' is crossed out). Strong Bad walks in.}''<br />
<br />
'''BUBS AS MR. LEGARM:''' Well look who decided to show up. Fifth time this week, Johnny.<br />
<br />
'''STRONG BAD AS JOHNNY:''' Oh I'm sorry Mr. Legarm. Honest I am! I just-<br />
<br />
'''MR. LEGARM:''' ''{interrupting}'' You just what? Lost track of time?<br />
<br />
'''JOHNNY:''' Yes sir. Only I wouldn't have to worry about that if I could just get the Johnny-Tron working.<br />
<br />
'''MR. LEGARM:''' You still wastin' time workin' on that time machine, Johnny? That's a pipe dream, son! Your future's here at the shop. Now sweep up! I got customers to tend to.<br />
<br />
'''JOHNNY:''' You'll see. Someday... someday...<br />
<br />
''{Music starts, and a spotlight goes over to Strong Bad.}''<br />
<br />
'''JOHNNY:''' ''{singing}'' When all my dreams come.. truuuuuuuuue.<br />
<br />
''{Upon singing the word "true", Strong Bad is somehow able to sing an entire harmony. The audience claps; the curtain closes.}''<br />
<br />
== Fun Facts ==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*The clock on Mrs. Bennedetto is stuck on 9:48.<br />
*This email is the first to show the back of the Lappy. It is the 3rd time Strong Bad has checked his email in an unusual place; he has also checked his e-mail on Pom-Pom's Pom Pilot in [[the bird]] and later on Tangerine Dreams in [[weird dream]].<br />
*In the picture of himself that Strongbad puts on Mrs. Bennedetto at the end of the email, his left hand does not have a boxing glove on it and you can see three fingers. This is the first time we have seen Strongbad's fingers or hand without the boxing gloves on.<br />
*This is only the fourth email where strong Bad's email song does not include the word "email".<br />
*This is the only email where you manually have to make the paper come down at the end of it.<br />
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===Remarks===<br />
*Bubs has apparently discontinued his "free weekly spamvertisements" from [[unused emails]], from which Strong Bad was making $1250 (5000 emails x a quarter each) every time he sold a disk of addresses.<br />
*Notice Bubs' promotion is the opposite of what would be sensible: You get can get two cups of ice while paying only for the one that costs less or the same. This is the same kind of logic which allows [[The King of Town]] to have "earned a free combo meal by purchasing one of equal or lesser value".<br />
*When Strong Bad is late to work, he grabs the frame of the cartoon, another confusion as to whether he knows he's in a cartoon or not.<br />
*Apparently the Lappy 486 also comes with a wireless Internet card. Either that or Strong Bad downloaded his emails before heading to Marzipan's.<br />
*The Lappy has a battery life of 5 minutes, but this email lasts only 3 minutes 9 seconds and the Lappy cuts off. However, it's explainable by the fact that not every moment is accounted for, such as Strong Bad going to and returning from Bubs' Concession Stand, and Strong Bad putting on his costume.<br />
*Strong Bad also has an unspecified job at [[The Office]].<br />
===Goofs===<br />
*You can still make the circles appear on the LCD screen when the power shuts off.<br />
*You can keep clicking on "preeow" to make the Paper come down again and again.<br />
<br />
===Inside References===<br />
* The "Hundredaire Socialite magazine" easter egg features the familiar faces of [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]]; the photo is from [[Peasant's Quest Preview]].<br />
*The Cheat wearing the top hat may be a reference to [[theme park]]. ''(also see Real-World References)''<br />
*Buh-Hubs is a reference to [[big white face]].<br />
*"Hundredaire" was also used in the email "[[suntan]]".<br />
* "preeeeow" is what Strong Bad says in [[autobiography]] and [[haircut]], when attempting to prompt the printer to print out [[The Paper]].<br />
*The confused sounds Strong Bad makes at the beginning of the cartoon are almost identical to the ones he utters near the end of [[Everybody to the Limit]].<br />
*When Strong Bad says "I've got so many facets, you don't even know what facets are," he is referring to his description of Senor Cardgage in the email [[kind of cool]].<br />
*The sound the Lappy makes when shutting down is the same sound from [[caffeine]] (when Strong Sad no longer was caffeinated) and from [[dangeresque 3]] when Strong Bad changed the signature (john newell, on) to john newell, off.<br />
*The cup of ice is first referenced in [[no loafing]], as part of Bubs' Thirty Cent Lunch Special.<br />
*When Strong Bad sings "I'm like a hundredaire socialite out on the sce-", it is in the same tune as the first Lappy e-mail rap ("Scroll buttons and The Lappy together at last...")<br />
===Real-World References===<br />
*The Cheat wearing the top hat might be a parody of 80's "One Hit Wonder" TACO and his cover of "Puttin' On the Ritz".<br />
*The tie on the hot dog clown costume is a reference to a comic called "Dilbert."<br />
*Homestar doesn't demonstrate how his Super Question Machine works (which is just a tennis ball), but it could be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Magic 8-ball|Magic 8-ball]].<br />
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== Glitches ==<br />
* After watching the "Power easter egg," the paper comes down even though you haven't clicked on preeeow.<br />
* On some earlier versions of Flash, you can hear the printer's scratching noise even before you click on "preeeow"<br />
* Many users could see this flash if they clicked e-mail even if it doesn't say they updated the e-mail yet.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail121.html view "part-time job"]<br><br />
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail121.swf view the flash file for "part-time job"]<br />
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1652 forum thread re: part-time job] <br />
{{Strong Bad Email}}<br />
[[Category:Lappy 486 Emails]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:Coach Z Filmography]][[Category:Bubs Filmography]][[Category:Pom Pom Filmography]]</div>
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Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).<br />
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Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts:<br />
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers<br />
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)<br />
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")<br />
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Things that often do not make good fun facts:<br />
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")<br />
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)<br />
* Things already noted in the transcript<br />
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript<br />
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.<br />
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When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).<br />
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If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.<br />
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If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.<br />
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== Voting ==<br />
New votes cast should generally be as follows:<br />
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.<br />
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).<br />
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''<br />
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.<br />
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)<br />
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The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.<br />
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'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. <br />
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You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.<br />
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== To be done ==<br />
<br />
* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)<br />
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)<br />
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]<br />
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.<br />
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== Toons and E-mails ==<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===<br />
====VOIP====<br />
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.<br />
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===<br />
<br />
====Guitar -> Shark====<br />
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?<br />
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Fender Guitars====<br />
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.<br />
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*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]<br />
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====College Radio====<br />
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio. <br />
<br />
*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]<br />
<br />
====You Big Mouth!====<br />
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.<br />
<br />
*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Math again====<br />
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.<br />
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*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]<br />
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
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==== Soulbait ====<br />
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.<br />
<br />
* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
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===[[other days]]===<br />
<br />
==== Thor? ====<br />
"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.<br />
**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===<br />
==== Three Noses? ====<br />
Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]<br />
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===[[dreamail]]===<br />
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==== "Decline" ref====<br />
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When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.<br />
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I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*<br />
*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Backwards joke ====<br />
<br />
The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Ping ====<br />
<br />
The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]<br />
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...<br />
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.<br />
*'''oh...wait''' I actually, upon one more listen, realized I was just tired and bored and hearing things. darn. Well...it could be the sound quality! Like, yeah totally! I'm hopeless... --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 16:14, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Decline''' And I'm the one who put it up.... --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:54, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.<br />
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''<br />
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)<br />
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...<br />
<br />
==== Not Plugged In ====<br />
The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.<br />
*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second'''<br />
**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[The Reddest Radish]]===<br />
==== Paper Doll Style ====<br />
<br />
This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.<br />
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=== [[island]] ===<br />
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====<br />
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Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).<br />
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.<br />
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]<br />
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==== Forward Referencing #2 ====<br />
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The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].<br />
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*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.<br />
**Second that.<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.<br />
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails<br />
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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=== [[homsar]] ===<br />
==== Heavy Lourde ====<br />
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
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=== [[part-time job]] ===<br />
==== SWF File====<br />
This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall: [[Image:part-time-job-screenshot.jpg|Active Camaflouge Strong Bad]]<br />
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*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]] PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.<br />
*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.<br />
*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Relative ====<br />
Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?<br />
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*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.<br />
**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]<br />
**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.<br />
*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Dilbert ====<br />
The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.<br />
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''Also seen worded as:''<br />
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The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.<br />
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*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''<br />
*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' I dident know that<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Buh-hubs ====<br />
In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Someday ====<br />
In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].<br />
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*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental cliché, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== League of Women Voters ====<br />
"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.<br />
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*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===<br />
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==== Dr Zoidberg ====<br />
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The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.<br />
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
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=== [[2 years]] ===<br />
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==== Mormon Missionary ====<br />
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===<br />
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==== Fat Cheat ====<br />
according to the Cheats hieght and weight his Body Mass Index is 64.6 normal weight is between 18.5 and 24.9 and obesity starts at 30 [[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and bad spelling. The Cheat is not a human, so BMI doesn't apply to him. Would you use BMI to see if a dog is overweight? [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:36, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:38, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:16, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This isn't AIM.--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:53, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[time capsule]] ===<br />
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==== World-Class Hole ====<br />
The hole in 20X6 is from [[2 years]].<br />
*'''Decline.''' I think it's pretty obvious Stinkoman was digging the hole. [[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 18:40, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:22, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:06, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:18, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] 12:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Kick the Can]] ===<br />
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==== Opposite approach ====<br />
The Kick the Can cartoons take the opposite approach to animation as Marzipan's Answering Machine. Kick the Can is all animation with the same musical score behind it, where as Marzipan's Answering Machine is only voice without any action. --[[User:No Parking|No Parking]] 17:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
(Ps. I rarely do the whole Wiki thing, hope I did this right.)<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not what I'd call a "fun" fact. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 10:40, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 21:05, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:20, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:42, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
**'''Second'''' -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:19, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Don't care at all. '''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:54, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''<br />
<br />
=== [[huttah!]] ===<br />
<br />
====Title====<br />
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy. <br />
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*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.<br />
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=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===<br />
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=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===<br />
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...<br />
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*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!<br />
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.<br />
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==== Homestar's Clock ====<br />
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.<br />
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*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki><br />
**You know alot about clocks.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' To something like: <br />
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator! <br />
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
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==== Egg Nog Glass ====<br />
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====<br />
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].<br />
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*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== Dripping Sound ====<br />
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Slippers ====<br />
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Blade man ====<br />
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The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.<br />
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==== Alms for the poor ===<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Charlie Brown ====<br />
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The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Wizard of Oz ====<br />
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Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Beat It ====<br />
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Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Marzipan's Purse ====<br />
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Screentime ====<br />
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The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!<br />
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====<br />
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.<br />
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* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]<br />
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.<br />
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
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==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====<br />
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"<br />
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* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````<br />
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==== Coach Z's Phone ====<br />
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Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].<br />
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*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]<br />
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== It's odd considering... ====<br />
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It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.<br />
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*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)<br />
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]<br />
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.<br />
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
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==== Alms for the Pudgy ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== 1 on 1 ====<br />
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This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]<br />
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==== Electrical Tape? ====<br />
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Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====<br />
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Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
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*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]<br />
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==== "state trooper" ====<br />
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)<br />
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(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)<br />
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''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM<br />
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*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*<b> Decline </b> Janik<br />
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==== A running gag? ====<br />
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)<br />
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* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)<br />
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]<br />
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]<br />
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[radio]] ===<br />
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====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====<br />
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====<br />
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The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
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=== [[animal]] ===<br />
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==== check out all my dimensions ====<br />
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."<br />
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*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Lappy Startup Screen ====<br />
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8]. --[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]<br />
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
<br />
==== The Price is Right... Again ====<br />
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.<br />
<br />
*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:<br />
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes<br />
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre><br />
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat<br />
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Just me being picky ====<br />
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)<br />
<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]<br />
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Weird laptop ====<br />
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)<br />
<br />
*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)<br />
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
<br />
==== Off-screen typing ====<br />
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.<br />
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*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...<br />
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the<br />
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible<br />
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre><br />
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Babies havin' babies ====<br />
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/<br />
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* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====<br />
<br />
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.<br />
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=== [[virus]] ===<br />
<br />
==== Quadratic formula ====<br />
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.<br />
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt><br />
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]<br />
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
<br />
==== Pi ====<br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.<br />
<br />
*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Maybe just <br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),<br />
which is an infinite number.<br />
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== 3D Bubs legs ====<br />
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.<br />
<br />
*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman<br />
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.<br />
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====<br />
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.<br />
<br />
*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Homsar's walking sound ====<br />
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".<br />
<br />
*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
<br />
==== Edgar's anachronism ====<br />
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.<br />
<br />
*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.<br />
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy<br />
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Gilligan's Island? ====<br />
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.<br />
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*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]<br />
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence.<br />
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=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===<br />
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==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====<br />
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.<br />
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*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====<br />
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====<br />
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===<br />
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==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====<br />
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===<br />
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==== Large Blank Space ====<br />
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.<br />
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'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===<br />
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==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====<br />
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In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[anything]] ===<br />
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==== Dan VS. Jerome ====<br />
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The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.<br />
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*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s><br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004<br />
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]<br />
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===<br />
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==== The Only Time? ====<br />
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)<br />
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s><br />
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====<br />
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone. <br />
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'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]<br />
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=== [[montage]] ===<br />
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==== hellboy ====<br />
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.<br />
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*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== scoreboard ====<br />
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.<br />
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==== ketchup ====<br />
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]<br />
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==Games==<br />
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===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===<br />
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====Wagon Wheel====<br />
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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== General ==<br />
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=== Cross-Toon Facts ===<br />
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==== Trust ====<br />
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.<br />
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''<br />
**'''Decline''' Ditto. &mdash; [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)</div>
68.15.244.8
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki:Old_STUFF
HRWiki:Old STUFF
2005-01-20T04:56:40Z
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Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).<br />
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Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts:<br />
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers<br />
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)<br />
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")<br />
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Things that often do not make good fun facts:<br />
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")<br />
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)<br />
* Things already noted in the transcript<br />
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript<br />
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")<br />
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Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.<br />
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When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).<br />
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If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.<br />
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If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.<br />
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== Voting ==<br />
New votes cast should generally be as follows:<br />
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.<br />
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).<br />
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''<br />
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.<br />
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)<br />
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The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.<br />
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'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. <br />
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You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.<br />
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== To be done ==<br />
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* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)<br />
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)<br />
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]<br />
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.<br />
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== Toons and E-mails ==<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===<br />
====VOIP====<br />
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.<br />
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90<br />
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===<br />
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====Guitar -> Shark====<br />
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?<br />
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Fender Guitars====<br />
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.<br />
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*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]<br />
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====College Radio====<br />
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]<br />
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====You Big Mouth!====<br />
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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====Math again====<br />
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.<br />
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*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]<br />
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
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==== Soulbait ====<br />
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.<br />
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* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
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===[[other days]]===<br />
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==== Thor? ====<br />
"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.<br />
**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===<br />
==== Three Noses? ====<br />
Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]<br />
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===[[dreamail]]===<br />
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==== "Decline" ref====<br />
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When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.<br />
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I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*<br />
*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Backwards joke ====<br />
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The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Ping ====<br />
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The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]<br />
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...<br />
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.<br />
*'''oh...wait''' I actually, upon one more listen, realized I was just tired and bored and hearing things. darn. Well...it could be the sound quality! Like, yeah totally! I'm hopeless... --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 16:14, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Decline''' And I'm the one who put it up.... --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:54, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.<br />
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''<br />
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)<br />
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...<br />
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==== Not Plugged In ====<br />
The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.<br />
*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second'''<br />
**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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===[[The Reddest Radish]]===<br />
==== Paper Doll Style ====<br />
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This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.<br />
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=== [[island]] ===<br />
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====<br />
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Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).<br />
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.<br />
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]<br />
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==== Forward Referencing #2 ====<br />
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The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].<br />
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*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.<br />
**Second that.<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.<br />
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails<br />
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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=== [[homsar]] ===<br />
==== Heavy Lourde ====<br />
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
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=== [[part-time job]] ===<br />
==== SWF File====<br />
This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall: [[Image:part-time-job-screenshot.jpg|Active Camaflouge Strong Bad]]<br />
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*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]] PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.<br />
*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.<br />
*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Relative ====<br />
Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?<br />
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*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.<br />
**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]<br />
**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.<br />
*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Dilbert ====<br />
The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.<br />
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''Also seen worded as:''<br />
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The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.<br />
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*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''<br />
*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' I dident know that<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Buh-hubs ====<br />
In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Someday ====<br />
In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].<br />
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*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental cliché, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== League of Women Voters ====<br />
"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.<br />
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*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===<br />
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==== Dr Zoidberg ====<br />
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The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.<br />
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
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=== [[2 years]] ===<br />
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==== Mormon Missionary ====<br />
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===<br />
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==== Fat Cheat ====<br />
according to the Cheats hieght and weight his Body Mass Index is 64.6 normal weight is between 18.5 and 24.9 and obesity starts at 30 [[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and bad spelling. The Cheat is not a human, so BMI doesn't apply to him. Would you use BMI to see if a dog is overweight? [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:36, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:38, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:16, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This isn't AIM.--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:53, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[time capsule]] ===<br />
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==== World-Class Hole ====<br />
The hole in 20X6 is from [[2 years]].<br />
*'''Decline.''' I think it's pretty obvious Stinkoman was digging the hole. [[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 18:40, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:22, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:06, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:18, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] 12:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Kick the Can]] ===<br />
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==== Opposite approach ====<br />
The Kick the Can cartoons take the opposite approach to animation as Marzipan's Answering Machine. Kick the Can is all animation with the same musical score behind it, where as Marzipan's Answering Machine is only voice without any action. --[[User:No Parking|No Parking]] 17:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
(Ps. I rarely do the whole Wiki thing, hope I did this right.)<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not what I'd call a "fun" fact. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 10:40, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 21:05, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:20, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:42, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)<br />
**'''Second'''' -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:19, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Don't care at all. '''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:54, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''<br />
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=== [[huttah!]] ===<br />
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====Title====<br />
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy. <br />
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*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.<br />
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=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===<br />
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=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===<br />
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...<br />
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*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!<br />
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.<br />
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==== Homestar's Clock ====<br />
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.<br />
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*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki><br />
**You know alot about clocks.<br />
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' To something like: <br />
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator! <br />
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
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==== Egg Nog Glass ====<br />
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].<br />
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*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====<br />
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].<br />
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*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== Dripping Sound ====<br />
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Slippers ====<br />
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Blade man ====<br />
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The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.<br />
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==== Alms for the poor ===<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Charlie Brown ====<br />
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The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons. <br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Wizard of Oz ====<br />
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Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Beat It ====<br />
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Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Marzipan's Purse ====<br />
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Screentime ====<br />
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The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!<br />
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====<br />
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.<br />
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* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]<br />
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.<br />
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
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==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====<br />
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"<br />
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* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````<br />
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==== Coach Z's Phone ====<br />
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Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].<br />
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*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]<br />
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== It's odd considering... ====<br />
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It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.<br />
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*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)<br />
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]<br />
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]<br />
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.<br />
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
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==== Alms for the Pudgy ====<br />
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"<br />
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*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== 1 on 1 ====<br />
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This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]<br />
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==== Electrical Tape? ====<br />
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Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.<br />
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*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
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==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====<br />
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Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
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*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]<br />
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==== "state trooper" ====<br />
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)<br />
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(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)<br />
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''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM<br />
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*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*<b> Decline </b> Janik<br />
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==== A running gag? ====<br />
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)<br />
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* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)<br />
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]<br />
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]<br />
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]<br />
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[radio]] ===<br />
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====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====<br />
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====<br />
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The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]<br />
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=== [[animal]] ===<br />
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==== check out all my dimensions ====<br />
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."<br />
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*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Lappy Startup Screen ====<br />
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8]. --[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]<br />
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
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==== The Price is Right... Again ====<br />
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.<br />
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*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:<br />
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes<br />
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre><br />
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat<br />
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Just me being picky ====<br />
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)<br />
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]<br />
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Weird laptop ====<br />
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)<br />
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*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]<br />
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)<br />
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)<br />
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]<br />
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
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==== Off-screen typing ====<br />
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.<br />
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*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...<br />
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the<br />
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible<br />
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre><br />
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Babies havin' babies ====<br />
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/<br />
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* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====<br />
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When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.<br />
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=== [[virus]] ===<br />
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==== Quadratic formula ====<br />
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]<br />
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.<br />
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt><br />
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]<br />
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]<br />
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==== Pi ====<br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.<br />
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*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Maybe just <br />
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),<br />
which is an infinite number.<br />
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== 3D Bubs legs ====<br />
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]<br />
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman<br />
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]<br />
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.<br />
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====<br />
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.<br />
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*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s><br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Homsar's walking sound ====<br />
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".<br />
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*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]<br />
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]<br />
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Edgar's anachronism ====<br />
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.<br />
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*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.<br />
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]<br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy<br />
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)<br />
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== Gilligan's Island? ====<br />
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.<br />
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*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]<br />
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]<br />
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===<br />
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==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====<br />
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.<br />
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*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]<br />
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''<br />
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]<br />
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]<br />
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====<br />
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====<br />
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===<br />
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==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====<br />
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===<br />
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==== Large Blank Space ====<br />
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.<br />
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'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===<br />
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==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====<br />
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In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.<br />
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
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=== [[anything]] ===<br />
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==== Dan VS. Jerome ====<br />
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The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.<br />
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*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s><br />
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004<br />
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]<br />
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]<br />
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===<br />
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==== The Only Time? ====<br />
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)<br />
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]<br />
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s><br />
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]<br />
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====<br />
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone. <br />
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'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]<br />
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=== [[montage]] ===<br />
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==== hellboy ====<br />
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.<br />
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*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]<br />
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)<br />
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==== scoreboard ====<br />
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.<br />
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*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.<br />
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==== ketchup ====<br />
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]<br />
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==Games==<br />
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===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===<br />
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====Wagon Wheel====<br />
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)<br />
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]<br />
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]<br />
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey<br />
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]<br />
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== General ==<br />
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=== Cross-Toon Facts ===<br />
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==== Trust ====<br />
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.<br />
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''<br />
**'''Decline''' Ditto. &mdash; [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]<br />
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)</div>
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