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:::It works fine for me.  What's wrong with it on your end?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:31, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:::It works fine for me.  What's wrong with it on your end?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:31, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::::[http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/Not1936SB.png Here's a screenshot.] --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:36, 9 October 2005 (BST)
::::[http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/Not1936SB.png Here's a screenshot.] --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:36, 9 October 2005 (BST)
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:::::This image, and "Image:sbghost.jpg" as well, are being adblocked. Disabling adblock for hrwiki.org should fix the problem. [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 08:02, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
 
nvm, main_22.png works after all. [[User:DDRfreak1|posted by DDRfreak1]] 15:20, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
nvm, main_22.png works after all. [[User:DDRfreak1|posted by DDRfreak1]] 15:20, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
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Is there anyway I can get my watchlist back too? No way I'll ever remember all the pages I had on there. -- [[User:Mibluvr13|Mibluvr13]] 19:16, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Is there anyway I can get my watchlist back too? No way I'll ever remember all the pages I had on there. -- [[User:Mibluvr13|Mibluvr13]] 19:16, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
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I'm having the same problem. Please help. [[User:invisible robot fish|invisible robot fish]]
 
Actually, I had always wished I had a more thoughtfully selected name than [[User:notstrongorbad]]. Official announcement: I'm now [[User:AbdiViklas]]. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:17, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Actually, I had always wished I had a more thoughtfully selected name than [[User:notstrongorbad]]. Official announcement: I'm now [[User:AbdiViklas]]. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:17, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
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::Yeah, pretty cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:03, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, pretty cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:03, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
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:::One other thing I discovered about it, is if you just check 'diff', it stays bold. You have to click on the actual page for it to de-bold. That's my contribution to the 1.5 transition. :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:58, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 
== Edit Summaries ==
== Edit Summaries ==
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:Fixed.  See [[MediaWiki:Protectedpagewarning]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:48, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:Fixed.  See [[MediaWiki:Protectedpagewarning]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:48, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
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==New Messages==
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i recently got a new message, and even though I replied, it still shows the You Have new Messages banner. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 20:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
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:Hmm.  It might be because someone changed another page on your watchlist.  I haven't tested this yet though.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:43, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
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::I removed my talk page from my watchlist, and the problem is fixed. ~�{{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}
== That table thing ==
== That table thing ==
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::::And what did the error message say?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:56, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
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=="New messages"==
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When I get a new message, I check it, but when I go anywhere else after checking it, it still says, "You have new messages" and the last messages were the ones I checked. HELP! - [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
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*I've had this same problem on another wiki, and although I am not sure what is causing it (the other wiki isn't upgraded yet), clearing your browser cache should solve it. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] <small>[[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]]</small> 12:04, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
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::The answer to your problem is already answered on this page right [[HRWiki_talk:Upgrade_to_MediaWiki_1.5#New_Messages|here]].  Always check before starting a new thread. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 12:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
==Re-confirming E-mail address==
==Re-confirming E-mail address==
Ever since the upgrade, I am finding it difficult to email anyone via the wiki's '''E-mail this user''' link. For some reason, the system thinks that none of the email adresses have been authenticated, thus requiring everyone to visit [[Special:Preferences|Preferences]]. Under the "Email" portion of "User data" one will find a way to have a new e-mail address confirmation sent. I am fairly sure this has affected all users. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:07, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Ever since the upgrade, I am finding it difficult to email anyone via the wiki's '''E-mail this user''' link. For some reason, the system thinks that none of the email adresses have been authenticated, thus requiring everyone to visit [[Special:Preferences|Preferences]]. Under the "Email" portion of "User data" one will find a way to have a new e-mail address confirmation sent. I am fairly sure this has affected all users. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:07, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
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:It affected me. {{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 09:33, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 
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== Well, this is odd ==
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== Edit conflict ==
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Obviously, the mechanism for determining whether there's an edit conflict has been enhanced to that if different sections are modified at the same time, a conflict doesn't necessarily occur. Is there some page somewhere that details the new functionality? In spite of it, however, I was still able to accidentally revert some changes with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_10&diff=172151&oldid=172150 this edit] (the hidden comment) and had to fix it [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_10&diff=next&oldid=172154 here]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:38, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
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:What should happen is that it detects whether the section you were editing has changed. If not, it merges your changes into the article, regardless of any other edits.
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:That said, I'm not sure why you had that happen to you, unless you had an edit conflict PRIOR to that and then copy/pasted your version to overwrite the other one. I've yet to see such a thing happen on Wikipedia. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] <small>[[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]</small> 23:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
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::Yeah, it's the [[MetaWikipedia:Help:Edit conflict]] technology. I think your situation might have something to do with your [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_10&diff=172150&oldid=172149 previous edit], which dealt with that very textOf course, I have no idea, but that's my best guess.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
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'''Fatal error:''' Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in '''/home/hrwiki/public_html/includes/DifferenceEngine.php''' on line '''662'''
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when I try to patrol this edit:
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http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:GWR_2004&curid=3346&diff=171113&oldid=171093&rcid=113859
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Why? I don't know. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 22:39, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
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:It looks like [[User:GWR 2004]] is doing some crazy stuff on his/her userpageHe or she might have broken something, but I'm guessing a particular thing they did just queried the database too heavily.  You might want to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:GWR_2004&action=edit&section=new ask them].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
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::I tried that diff a few days ago. Someone went on my user page and LINK'D!! a whole bunch of [[Special:Contributions/GWR 2004|contributions]] on that page before I found out about the whole [[HRWiki:Changing username|request]] process. {{User:gwr2004/sig}} 23:22, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
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Had to do some wweird things with URLs, but I finally got marked as patrolled. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:46, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
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== Database error ==
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::The software. The above is copied and pasted as-was. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::The software. The above is copied and pasted as-was. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
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:The last time I saw this error message, it was when [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] was blanked instead of leaving it is a dash. But now, content is in there, and the error is still occuring. I am using Mozilla Firefox 1.0.7 on a Windows XP Professional machine, if that information is necessary. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:51, 12 October 2005 (BST)
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== How many new messages can one have? ==
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::Tom, think it's possible to enable display of the queries? (Or alternatively, just send out an e-mail with it?) The displayed error doesn't seem to bring any possible issue to mind, so it's hard to tell when there's no way of knowing what it was trying to do... --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] <small>[[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]</small> 21:03, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
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:::If the query should be displayed, set $wgShowSQLErrors to true in LocalSettings.php. If it should be e-mailed, add the code to the databaseError function in includes/OutputPage.php before the query is hidden. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] <small>[[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]</small> 21:10, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
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::::I like the OutputPage.php option better.  How should I set that up?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
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:::::Note that this is based on MediaWiki 1.4.5, but it should be quite similar in 1.5.x.
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:::::Open includes/OutputPage.php and look for the text <code>function databaseError</code>. You should see a block of code similar to this:
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:::::Add the following lines before <code>if( !$wgShowSQLErrors ) {</code>, putting in the appropriate e-mail address as the first parameter to mail():
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:::::Save and upload. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] <small>[[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]</small> 17:17, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
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::::::Done.  I'll let you know what errors come up.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:15, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
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:::::::If you prefer, you can add my e-mail address to the destination field by seperating the two with a comma. So that'd be <code>your@email.something, my@email.something</code>. This will send a copy of it to both addresses. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] <small>[[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]</small> 21:28, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
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::::::::I just spoke with Brion Vibber via IRC about the errors I've received already and he had me change a line in a file that should fix the problem.  Let me know if the errors still occur.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:11, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
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==Weird extra Talk Page note==
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# (cur) (last)  15:32, 15 October 2005 Thunderbird L17 (→Personal CSS - - Reply.)  updated (since my last visit)
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# (cur) (last) 15:26, 15 October 2005 It's dot com (Personal CSS)
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# (cur) (last) 18:39, 13 October 2005 Thunderbird L17 (→Story? - - Reply to Lapper.)
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The 'updated (since my last visit)' was bordered seperately in red, and I didn't write it. Then I realized I was watching my talk page, therefore the 'new message' message kept coming up. I unwatched it, and the message went away. Any significance of the red bordered message at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:39, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
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:It's meant to show you if an article has been changed since the last time you visited it. I think it's a part of the [[wikipedia:m:Enotif|Enotif]] extension to MediaWiki, as it doesn't appear on Wikipedia. I don't really know a lot about that extension, but I think that's one of its features. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] <small>[[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]</small> 23:59, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
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::You're seeing the [[MediaWiki:Updatedmarker]].  As far as I know, what you've described is exactly what is supposed to happen.  This feature came standard with MediaWiki 1.5.0 and simply put: the page has changed since your last visit.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:08, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
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== You have new messages ==
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The following threads discuss the same issue and have been grouped here. The cause of the problem was [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3805 bug 3805], which has now been fixed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:52, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
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I recently got a new message, and even though I replied, it still shows the You Have new Messages banner. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 20:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
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:Hmm.  It might be because someone changed another page on your watchlist.  I haven't tested this yet though.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:43, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
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::I removed my talk page from my watchlist, and the problem is fixed. ~�{{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}
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I had something similar happen to me, although my page is not on my watch list. Does anybody have any suggestsions? ~Isaac Smith
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I still can't figure out why it's doing this. I've moved to a new computer, and logged in there, but I didn't think that that would fix it. Hmmmm... ~Isaac Smith
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:Isaac, you may want to try manually clicking on the "unwatch" button on your user talk page. For some reason, our watchlists were not backward compatible, meaning that the system might tell you that you don't have any pages on your watchlist, even though you still do. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 02:38, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
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When I get a new message, I check it, but when I go anywhere else after checking it, it still says, "You have new messages" and the last messages were the ones I checked. HELP! - [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
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*I've had this same problem on another wiki, and although I am not sure what is causing it (the other wiki isn't upgraded yet), clearing your browser cache should solve it. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] <small>[[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]]</small> 12:04, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
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::The answer to your problem is already answered on this page right [[HRWiki_talk:Upgrade_to_MediaWiki_1.5#New_Messages|here]].  Always check before starting a new thread. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 12:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
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I seem to alweys have the "You have new messages." orange thingy above the page. I already read what was sent to me and repleyed. Why won't it go away? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I seem to alweys have the "You have new messages." orange thingy above the page. I already read what was sent to me and repleyed. Why won't it go away? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:Try removing your talk page from your watchlist.  See [[#New Messages]] and [[#"New messages"]] for more information.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:53, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:Try removing your talk page from your watchlist.  See [[#New Messages]] and [[#"New messages"]] for more information.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:53, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
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::Oh. Thanks. Soo.. Now when I ''do'' get a new massege, would it show the orange bar? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:58, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 
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Is it possible to fix this without the workaround? I like having my talk page on my watchlist. It's frustrating to have to unwatch it each time I get a new message. Speaking of this, it now seems impossible to add my talk page to my watchlist. I click "watch," but nothing changes. (Speaking of watchlists, regular talk pages have become temporarily separated from their article pages. If I want to reestablish the connection between the two, I have to manually unwatch and then re-watch the article.) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 
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<s>Argh! The same thing is happening to me! I can't remove my talk page from my watchlist because it says that I have no items on my watchlist. But I know it has to be on my watchlist because the page title is in bold on Recent Changes. I just can't see to get rid of the banner or remove the page from the watch list! Please reply ASAP!<br>
 
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Just for the record, I got rid of the orange template thingy by adding my User page to my watchlist and then removing it. I think that sorted it. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:17, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 
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:Again, if you missed the notice above: This bug has been fixed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:52, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
 
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Here's something that's driving me mad. When you watch your talkpage, the new message sitemessage won't go away, right? So I unwatch it. The thing is, everytime I get a new message, it starts watching it again by itself. I looked, but it didn't seem like this problem was addressed here. Any suggestions? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 
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:It looks like the way the talk page is added to the watchlist has been changed. First of all, you no longer can manually add it to your watchlist. If someone sends you a message, your talk page is automatically watched. When you check your talk page, it is automatically unwatched (now that the bug above has been fixed). I don't know whether this is a separate bug or an intentional new feature. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:55, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
 
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Obviously, the mechanism for determining whether there's an edit conflict has been enhanced to that if different sections are modified at the same time, a conflict doesn't necessarily occur. Is there some page somewhere that details the new functionality? In spite of it, however, I was still able to accidentally revert some changes with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_10&diff=172151&oldid=172150 this edit] (the hidden comment) and had to fix it [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_10&diff=next&oldid=172154 here]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:38, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 
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::Yeah, it's the [[MetaWikipedia:Help:Edit conflict]] technology.  I think your situation might have something to do with your [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_10&diff=172150&oldid=172149 previous edit], which dealt with that very text.  Of course, I have no idea, but that's my best guess.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 
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:::This may have come up again recently, and it has been discussed on my talk page. To summarize, it probably has to do with [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1150 bug 1150]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:57, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
 
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How come this talk page seems to count as part of the main namespace for search and random page? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
 
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:Hmm.  What's even more interesting is the difference between [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?ns0=1&search=mediawiki&searchx=Search this search] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?ns5=1&search=mediawiki&searchx=Search this one].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:59, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
 

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