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legitimate screenshots

does anybody know how to get decent screenshots? when i press "print screen", all it does is copy an image to my clipboard, which i can't get off and into a saved file for the life of me.

and sorry i'm not signed in, i'm in the process of changing my changing my username -i know. can you believe it?/DJ Teh Cheat

Doozey of a new name, DJ. I prefer Irfanview as an image editor—low memory profile, doesn't try to be Photoshop when all you need is to convert or crop. Anyway,
  1. do your "print screen" thing—yes, it will put it on the clipboard;
  2. open your preferred editor;
  3. hit "paste." Voila! Then save, preferably as PNG. —AbdiViklas 05:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

grazie. or.. gratzie. or.. whatever. god bless photoshop. -DJ Teh Cheat


Under Construction

This is under extensive construction, but it should eventually be something similar to Wikipedia's community portal. If you have suggestions or ideas, feel free to help us improve it. — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 15:31, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Screenshot

Thinkin' we need a screenshot of The Stick here. →FireBird

I'ma try and get one. --acekirby13 20:26, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Done. -- Tom 20:29, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
Aw! I wanted to do a whole new one, from the bird, but oh well. (I had it all ready to be uploaded too...) --acekirby13 20:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
could you email the pic to me acekirby13 (P.S. My email is at my user page)Joel|Talk Contributions


Thumbnail

The thumbnail we have of The Stick seems to be overlapping the background image of The Stick on the page. We should remove the thumbnail; the page looks better without it anyway (in my opinion, of course). --Gafaddict 18:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

If you're using a browser that can properly interpret CSS, the page is elongated to eliminate the overlap. Once the page has more information on it, this will no longer be a problem. I suppose we could remove the thumbnail in the meantime... — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 18:40, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Now you see me, and now you don't.

The Stick isn't always in the navigation panel. I'm not sure if it's for certain pages or just random. If it's for certain pages I'll give an example soon. Kvb 21:07, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Example: The Halloween House. (This one seems to not have The Stick in navigation.) Kvb 21:10, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

(Edit Conflict- My Reply)

It isn't? That's odd. It always is for me (unless I haven't noticed it). Maybe you should take this up with the mods. Tom and Pidgeot are good with Wiki glitches. --acekirby13 21:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Try a hard refresh. (Ctrl+F5). That usually fixes things up with me. →FireBird
By the way, when I go to The Halloween House, I can still see The Stick in the navigation. As suggested above, try a Hard Refresh. --acekirby13 21:14, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Nope, that hard refresh thing's not working. Kvb 21:16, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Try clearing your cache completely. — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 21:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Okay, so far I'm not having the problem anymore. That must've been it. Kvb 21:20, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

New Committees

Is it alright if we start new committees? -- The Real Zajac 15:38, 10 May 2005 (PDT)

Talk it over with Joey first. →FireBird

Protection

Do you guys think HRWiki:The Stick is worth protecting?-^Gordon^

I do. Like the main page, this is rarely changed. This deserves protection much more than the main page, in my opinion. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 01:30, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I disagree with your last point, Rogue. The main page is the most visited page on the site. The Stick is not. The only reason why this page should possibly be protected is because it isn't changed much. It is one of the most trolled pages on the site because it is the first editable page linked on the sidebar. I don't think protecting it would help much, because trolls would simply move on to H*R.com updates and Strong Bad Email. Besides, trolling at the stick is usually reverted pretty quickly. —BazookaJoe 01:37, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
So were the Main Page edits. Look at The Stick's history. Most them are trolling edits. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 01:43, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I didn't say I strongly oppose protecting this page. From the perspective of the wiki as a whole, it wouldn't do much. But I guess that's the wrong perspective. —BazookaJoe 01:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I strongly oppose protecting it. See my arguments here. — It's dot com 01:51, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I agree that no page is 100% perfect, but this page is one of the most trolled pages on the wiki. If this page is edited, chances are that it is a defacement. And please tell me why this page would need to be edited. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 02:01, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Users should be allowed to add stuff to the Stick if they come up with a useful tool or committee or something. Trolling isn't that hard to revert, and protection is against the wiki way. Like Joe said, the trolls would just move on to H*R.com updates and Strong Bad Email (which can't be protected). Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 02:04, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Ok, I concede. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 02:07, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Pledge Drive

The Pledge Drive is a good idea!--Stephen923

All right, then ask JoeyDay about it. Earlier, Joshua made the same change you did, and then reverted it just a few minutes later. I got the feeling he chatted with someone about it and was told to remove it. I could be wrong, but you should find out. — It's dot com 04:28, 1 November 2005 (UTC)


signatures

ok, i'm in the process of designing my signature. i'm almost done, but i've run into two snags. the first one is, the M is supposed to link to my user talk, but it doesn't link. the second is that the timestamp is all screwed up to where it comes up under the comment in a quote. if anyone knows what i'm doing wrong, please fix it at http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:DJ_Teh_Cheat/sig . and, the first problem is fixed at the actual sig page, but it doesn't work when i use it anywhere else. --DJTehCheat M-E-H! 23:01, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

ok, i fixed the first problem. nevermind on that one. now i just need to figure out how to fix the timestamp. --DJTehCheat M-E-H! 23:03, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

New commitee

Mabye we could have a merging comittee so we can take all the small pages and make them into larger pages.-- Benol, aka Coach B 02:52, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

No. It's too easy for that to be a commitee. We're going merging overboard.--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 02:56, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

or mabye an info gathering commitee.-- Benol, aka Coach B 03:02, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I dunno, that might be a good idea, but like Bkmlb said, it's so easy... I dunno. I guess I should shut up then. — talk Bubsty edits 03:04, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I personally don't see any need for a committee with such a limited charter. Would that committee go around merging articles until they're all on one big page? And there's nothing inherently wrong with small articles. Sometimes there's just not a lot to say about a subject, even though it's important. If the content or theme of several articles is very similar and the likelihood of cross-referencing is high and the articles themselves are quite small, then they might should be merged; otherwise, articles should remain on their own pages, no matter their size. — It's dot com 03:14, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Sprucing Up

Hi, I never really liked the stick to look plain looking, so I figured I'd spruce it up a little, following the HRWiki:Introduction style. I made a preview on the Sandbox and applied it. I had also tried a version that would be part of the introduction but the title is too wide even for 1024x768 and I'm not sure it quite belongs there. If you guys don't like it feel free to revert. One thing is left to be done though. In order to eliminate ugly whitespace around the quick menu, I removed the border and couldn't make it transparent. I'll leave that one to the XHTML gurus. One thing I really wanted to do was to make the quick links div be its own template which would look nicer in the stick page (easier to understand) and also could be used by users in their user page if they so desire. The quick menu itself could probably be reorganized a little (group things and use horiz lines to divide these groups) in order to make things a little "quicker" --Stux 16:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Nice work, Stux! There's just one problem. Part of The Cheat's head has been cut off by the quick menu. It really bugs me. Other than that, great! – The Chort 17:16, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! What resolution are you running at? i'm using 1024x768 and the quick menu is far enough away to interfere. I can only guess you're running at 800x600 640x480. I tried at 800x600 and it looks fine too. If that's the case i don't think there's much that can be done. :( I don't know what else could be causing it. (Do you see artifacts in the HRWiki:Introduction pages?) --Stux 17:41, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, I've added some extra spaces to the text and the page looks fine now. The Cheat is 100%! Also, I'm actually running at 1280x1024 and I don't notice anything wrong with the introduction pages. – The Chort 17:54, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Oh! That makes sense now. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks! Yeah you won't find any problems with the intro pages at 1280x1024, only 800x600 and below. --Stux 18:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Sorry The Chort, but I liked the divisions too much after reorganizing the quick menu. You may need to add more spaces or something to make it work on 1280x1024. I'll check it out once I get back to the lab -- after Jan 9th that is. I hope the new quick menu look is still good. :) Happy New Year all! --Stux 21:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, if we can't add extra spaces to the page, what can we do? It's really irritating that most of The Cheat's head is cut off. – The Chort 18:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Flesh things out? Only if people like it and it's useful. Well at least if ppl like it ok. --Stux 19:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Italics in Appearances sections

Does anyone recall the rationale for italicizing all the descriptions in an Appearances section? I couldn't find anything about this on the Standards page. They seem like an unnecessary hassle for writers and editors to deal with, and can become overbearing on pages that have a lot of Appearances. I especially noticed this on Pie when I wanted to italicize TV Time Magazine. What if we just formatted all Appearances normally? The em dashes are more than sufficient to provide a clean seaparation between each title and description. — Bill 18:20, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Note also a very different format used in Twin Characters. Is there a standard documented somewhere? — Bill 19:23, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Probably not. --Stux 19:45, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I think italics are dreadful to try and read in large doses, but I, too, don't know where or whether this has been discussed. In the meantime, I have been putting them back into regular formatting whenever I've noticed someone change them. — It's dot com 00:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, now that I think about it I do vaguely remember reading a discussion very similar to this one. And i think it had been decided that it would be good to not keep italics. It may not have been with appearances but it was with a similar thing. I think E.L.Cool participated in it. He's the only person I can think of that could know. Maybe we can ask him? --Stux 05:52, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

protect

Shouldn't you protect this page?? TheThin 23:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

This has been discussed on this talk page already. The agreement was no. —BazookaJoe 23:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

CSS, I think

The background image of The cheat, where is that defined? I see the code

<div style="border:3px solid #B3FF00;padding:.5em 1em 1em 1em;border-top:none;color:000" class="IntroPageBox">

but where are the attributes of IntroPageBox defined. Is it CSS document? I would like to look at the code to get a better understanding of how the page is contructed and possibly even develop one of my own for a different page or at the very least, mess around in the sandbox a little. I R F 20:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Try MediaWiki:Monobook.css. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif 21:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

what happened?

i remember that a link to a page with a homestar parory song called"all your base are belong to us"used to be on the site and i can't find it,plz put it back on or explain where it is ty

May I direct your attention to Has Matt's user page? Seriously (Talk) 00:52, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Why is the stick so good for hanging out at?

I just don't understand, it does'nt make sense to me. What is there to do at the stick?-ken

See origins. Thunderbird 03:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

It's an awesome e-mail, but it didnt explain anything. sorry man.-ken

Maybe see FAQ? And I know, the first reply didn't make alot of sense either. I just don't really have a good answer for you. Thunderbird 03:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

yeah thunda, it is a pretty stupid question even, but like does it ever grow? I bet because its a STICK strong mad got ticked and shoved it in the ground er somthing.

You could also try Emailing The Brothers Chaps. Thunderbird 03:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

good idea, but it was already an e-mail.-ken

That was an email to Strong Bad. The Brothers' Chaps might answer your questions directly. I once emailed about the answer to the Jumble in caper (before I knew about the wiki), and they replied with the answer; Une Taco. Thunderbird 03:40, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

do they give you spam? and do you come here often? I don't even have an account-ken

No spam (unless you count Bubs' weekly spamvertisements), and yes I come here often. I'm an admin here. See here for further info. And if you dont' have an account yet, I would highly reccoment signing up. It's quick, free, and painless. Thunderbird 03:45, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

cool, cool, mysterious, cool. But do I need an e-mail address, and will the wiki e-mail me thanking me for joining, and will I need to log on a certain amout of times in a month or anything?-ken

Email is optional, the wiki won't email you even if you do give them your address, unless you request a password reminder. Somebody will welcome you on your talk page though, and an account stays forever, regardless of how much or little you sign in for. Thunderbird 03:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

is there an age limit?-ken

Over 95 are not allowed to join, and under a year and a half are also disallowed. Besides that, the Pie's the limit. Thunderbird 03:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

and what are the limits to insulting stuff, because there was some stuff i did when I went into homsar, you will see it in discussions. tell me to delete it if it is too mean-ken

You can make general complaints on the chat channel. Personal attacks, however, are not tolerated. — Lapper (talk) 03:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
EDIT CONFLICT: I saw it here, it was kind of insulting, but if you're usually not like that you'll be okay. Debate is allowed, but not outright personal attacks, foul language, or obviously insulting comments. Thunderbird 04:02, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sorry, i'll delete i guess, say, I got my account!!-ken

Welcome to the wiki Ken. I'd reccomend creating a user space. And if you want to sign your comments, type four of these: ~~~~. Welcome again. Thunderbird 04:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

thanks man Ken 04:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

but should I delete it at homsar? Ken 04:08, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry about it. You can if you want though. Nobody really looks there too often anyways. ;) Thunderbird 04:09, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

cool, now I don't need to take that weird test with the letters, was that a drunk test? Ken 04:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

It's a test to make sure you're a human and not a computer program. We've had problems in the past with those, they can automatically vandalize hundreds of pages in mere minutes. See here for more info about why we started Captcha (the letters and numbers pictures) in the first place. Thunderbird 04:13, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

yeah sorry, that was a stupid question anywayKen 04:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Naw, it's a valid question. And as a side point, through this conversation do you understand why The Stick is such a great place to hang out? That's what we've been doing for the past 10 minutes. It's a great place for that kind of thing. :) Thunderbird 04:20, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sure.Ken 04:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Btw, if you like chatting with Homestar Runner fans, here's the place to go. Thunderbird 04:25, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sorry, not the chat room kind. g2g, and thanks for all the help, i'll be on tommorrow. :) Ken 04:27, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Seya around Ken. Thunderbird 04:29, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

.Ogg sounds

It feels weird having an article about a sound without a download of the sound. I've have an .ogg file from geddup noise as well as "Chairscoot", "Way-o Way-o", "The Standing-up Noise" and "The Get Outcha Seat sound". Is this kind of thing considered kosher on the Wiki? No Parking (Talk | contribs) 01:46, 8 June 2006 (left unsigned)

The Background

Can we change the The Cheat Background just as we did with the main page background? --Dacheatbot · Communicate 22:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Why does this even need The Cheat? Can't we just put a background image of The Stick? Wouldn't that be the tiniest bit more relevant? :P — Seriously (Talk) 22:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I kind of think it's difficult to find links on this page and that it could be organized a little better. In fact, I've already started work on a new design. Comments on the talk page are welcome. — It's dot com 23:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

reference

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/email/

Oh, the lulz. - 24.222.172.137 14:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

What cartoon is this?

I seem to recall a Strong Bad Email or something like that where Strong Bad says "now in HD". If I'm mistaken, it may have been a Simpsons episode. Retromaniac 06:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

long pants is what you are looking for I R F 06:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I also recall a cartoon where Homestar asks Strong bad what he's doing, only he pronounces "doing" to rhyme with "boing". When Strong Bad corrects him and says "what your looking for is do-ing", Homestar says "yeah, but they're spelled the same". Retromaniac 21:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
That would be car, as you can find from a simple searchLoafing 21:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry. I'd already tried that. I didn't try searching for "boing" before. Retromaniac 20:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
No probalo. Sometimes you have to be a bit creative with the search — especially if you only remember parts of a quote ;-) Loafing 21:46, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

External community groups?

Tell me if this already exists somewhere else or if it's just a bad idea altogether. I'm interested in finding places where our community has grouped together (created sub-communities) on other community sites. The Frapper map is the perfect example of this, but I recently discovered a fledgling last.fm group. I'm thinking The Stick (our community portal) is the right place to gather and document this stuff, but I worry about simply opening the floodgates. We'd have to come up with guidelines as to what sort of communities could be included in such a listing. What do you think? — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 03:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Are you talking about listing opportunites to meet and socialize with other HRWikiers in some fashion (be it sharing on Frappr, meeting in an online community, etc.) or something else? I think that might be an effective way to divert some of the social interaction that tends to clutter at times, leaving the wiki free to be a workspace. (Of course, we cannot {and should not} entirely divorce the social atmosphere - but mere chatty/social interaction could be encouraged this way without interfering with the task at hand.) Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 03:44, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Qermaq, listing these places is not only helpful for individual members, but it might also make the wiki a more efficient place. As a threshold, we could list groups that seem currently active with at least five or so members. Should we only consider sites as JoeyDay originally proposed or should we include other places as well, such as IRCLoafing 04:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Qermaq, yeah, places where hrwikiers can congregate outside the halls of knowledge-basedom. I pretty much just wanna have friends. I belong to a lot of social networks like del.icio.us and Flickr where I haven't met or interacted with a whole lot of people. So I pretty much just wanna know where the friends I already have are hanging out so I can hang out with them. Is there a MySpace group for hrwikiers, for instance? Beats me. It probably wouldn't be hard to find out, but it'd be convenient to have a list of all the hrwiki groups that exist within other social networks for quick reference. Loafing, I'd say the IRC channel is a sub-group of a separate social networking site, namely Freenode, so it would qualify for the list as I've proposed it, but individual listings would be up to the consensus of the group or some predetermined body of standards. The Homestar Runner Network (if it ever gets off the ground) will probably allow for the formation of member groups, and since it's a separate site, it would also qualify for inclusion in this list if a Homestar Runner Wiki group were formed there. — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 04:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Sounds like a good idea. I'm not sure how many sites we could or should use this for. But I'm not sure how much this will make the wiki more productive. --Dacheatbot · Communicate 04:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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