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Percent

When searching a certain user, what does the 100%, or 92% or any other number mean? -- FireBird

(I'd like that answer too) ^ Thunderbird 08:52, 22 Oct 2004 (MST)

It's how close a match MediaWiki thinks the page is to your search term. -- Tom 16:15, 22 Oct 2004 (MST)

Wiki Troll

This is probably answered somewhere else, but I have to go out for the day, and I'm leaving in 5 minutes, so I'm just gonna ask and leave it with you. 142.177.97.77 added Little Girl to the reject characters page, with the whole page simply 'bum hole'. Does this constitute a Wiki Troll? If it does, what steps do I take to insure that this Troller of Wikis is brought to justice? Is there any sort of general system of protocols?

The instructions for dealing with WikiTrolls can be found on the WikiTroll page. And I dealt with the situation. Thanks. -- Tom 16:15, 22 Oct 2004 (MST)

Category Redirect not working?

I moved the content from the "Inside Jokes" to the category of the same name. (First I made sure all the inside jokes had references to this category.) Then I tried to redirect "Inside Jokes" to the category, but it's not redirecting! Am I a bad boy? -- spblat 18:18, 24 Oct 2004 (MST)

Not so much. I'm not really sure the software will allow a redirect to a category, but its kind of a moot point in this situation. As noted correctly by User:The Paper, content should be on a main namespace page, not a category namespace page. I do understand where you are coming from though. Several of the pages in Category:Lists seem like they would be good candidates for just category pages. This is partly because of the way in which we use catagories around here and partly because of the way we list things. In fact, we actually kind of do something with the filmographies like what I think you tried to do. I'm not really sure what I just said will make any sense, but just know that content should be on good 'ol regular pages. -- Tom 19:10, 24 Oct 2004 (MST)

Thanks. Response posted to Talk:Inside Jokes. Thanks! spblat 20:05, 24 Oct 2004 (MST)

Upload.

Oops. I apparently did something wrong when I tried to upload an image. Could an admin please delete it? I guess I'm just not cut out to upload images. How do you, anyways? -- FireBird Talk

Image:King Of Town Intro.png? I'm not really sure. Are you able to view the image on your computer okay? If so, then it's just a matter of knowing where on your computer it is located. -- Tom 23:20, 6 Nov 2004 (MST)
No, I can't see it on my computer. -- FireBird-Talk

I kinda screwed up too. sorry, my first post. I uploded the level 7 stinkogame boss image twice, one that was too big to post, and one that was a little small but is now posted. can someone delete the bigger one? it should be right on top in the uploads logs. Thanks! IggyTalk

Banned

Just out of curiosity, when a IP Address is banned, what does the page look like if that address trys to get back in? -- FireBird|Talk

Currently with MediaWiki, those on the Ipblocklist are only prevented from editing pages. They can still view pages normally. -- Tom 10:31, 18 Nov 2004 (MST)
Oh. -- FireBird|Talk

Register

How do I get a username? I really want one. 68.215.185.76 10:31, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

All you have to do is click the "Create an account or log in" link at the top-right hand corner of the page. Enter in a username, enter a password into both password boxes and click the "Create new account" button. It's that easy! --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 11:17, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

No. I mean a usernam on the Wiki itself. 68.215.185.76 11:44, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

Just follow what Kilroy said. -- FireBird|Talk

Thanks. User:Clever Ben

Just remember to put "User:" in front of your name, or use the squigleys. (~~~~). -- FireBird|Talk

Joining the Forum

Can someone help me? I never got my confirmation email. I joined as "bottles98" with the email address strong_bad@homestarrunner.us a couple of weeks ago (yes, that's my real email address, my friend registered homestarrunner.us as a domain name and gave me a mail address at it.) I use Yahoo! Mail which may be the problem, is there anyway an admin could maybe auto-confirm my account or something? I'd really appriciate it. -- Homestar Runnar

Please send an email from the account you want to register with to support@hrwiki.org. We'll see what we can do. -- Tom 10:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

Strong Bad hate mail

Please do tell me the names of all emails where Strong Bad was asked how he types with boxing gloves on. - Anonymous

I hope you mean "Please tell me all the emails where Strong Bad was asked how he types with boxing gloves on." And it won't be incredibly hard to find. It's called a search engine, right below the navitgation module. Look for it. Use it. It has a purpose. (Oh, and sign your comments.)→FireBird

Category Editing

I've been wanting to do some cleaning of the Category:Character Variations ... but when I go to edit it, the field for input only shows a tiny little bit of the page, not enough for me to work with. I swear to god that I have legitimately tried to figure this out on my own, but failed. Would someone please just let me in on whatever little secret I need to know? It's driving me mad.

If it has something to do with only super-duper Admins being able to edit these pages, could one of you please delegate the task of adding a new Dangeresque subcategory (if you deem it admissible)? It's been bugging me. But there is a distinict possibility that it is not there because it should not be there. I just need some closure. --Vannav 23:21, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)

When anyone edits a category page, the only thing available to edit is the text at the top of the page. The rest of the content is generated automagically by MediaWiki. That's how categories work. For example, Category:Strong_Bad_Email only contains a short note at the top of the page regarding the emails. The actual content of the page (the actual links to the email pages) is generated by MediaWiki. Of course, a much better and more detailed explanation of how categories work can be found in the user's guide. -- Tom 10:20, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

The # character in page titles

Take a look at Special:Uncategorized Pages. Apparently there exist pages called "Kobe#1" and "Kobe#2" but whenever I try to get my browser to access these, it just loads Kobe (since the # character in a URL signifies an anchor identifier). I know that the pages are there and all different by entering "kobe" into the search, which shows that each of the three pages has a different number of bytes.

These pages should be moved by someone who can; also, # should be disallowed as a page title character if possible. Mister Mister 07:50, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

The "#" character is disallowed. The links for "Kobe#1" and "Kobe#2" both just link to the Kobe page. The "#" on each doesn't do anything in this situation because MediaWiki uses the # to link to sections, like with Strong Bad Email#Strong Bad Email Raps. Since there aren't sections for "1" and "2" on the Kobe page, the software just sends the user to the top of the page. To fix this, all you have to do is create pages like Kobe 1 and Kobe 2, move the content, fix the links to the page, and mark the Kobe page for deletion. No special privileges are needed. -- Tom 10:14, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
So what exactly are the three pages listed in [[1]]? The second one seems to contain the text "Very similar Strong Mad's character" which appears nowhere in Kobe. It looks to me like "Kobe#1" and "Kobe#2" somehow actually got into the database as separate pages. Mister Mister 19:07, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
I think the existing Kobe page is sufficient for both characters. I've been trying to remove all #links to it to clear up the listing error. - Dr Haggis - Talk 11:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
I think Kobe should be deleted and recreated. It should clean out all the database confusion. - Dr Haggis - Talk 19:19, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
Okay, I tried a delete and then making the page again (from a copy and paste, not a restore or anything). That didn't seem to work, so I tried a delete, then I purged the page, then I made the page again, and that also didn't seem to work. Any other ideas? I guess I could manually go and edit the datebase if it comes to that. -- Tom 08:18, 6 Dec 2004 (MST)

Images in wiki tables - front page

How did you guys manage to put the images inside the tables on the front page?

--69.163.67.178 22:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

With some CSS. You can read up on CSS Background Properties at the w3school. -- Tom 10:03, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)

Timeline? Dates?

OK, I've been searching HRWiki all morning and haven't found what i'm looking for. Is there recorded anywhere on this site the DATE each item (SB email, Toon, whatever) appeared on Homestar Runner Dot Com? I'm trying to work out a general timeline of how the site and the characters developed, inspired by an interview I read with the Brothers Chaps where they discussed the evolution of Strong Bad from the Bad Guy into a host/protagonist, etc. Any clues?

--jonathanjo

No idea, but H*R.com updates will do it up untill January 5 (army). →FireBird

PNG?

Not to sound like a newb (hey, I checked through all the faqs like a good li'l MetaStar :) but why is this wiki anti-gif? Does it have to do with some well thought of software product (eg. server-side image munging software, imagemagick, et al) that has weak/no support for GIF's due to copyright stodginess, or simple protest of copyright fiascos, or afinity for things that PNG can do that GIF can't (eg. multilevel transparency unsupported in IE) or the general view that PNG's always pack smaller than gifs? (I know that in many cases GIF's pack smaller..) and/or just a call for consistency after considering that PNG's win most battles over GIF's?

If we allowed GIF's we might be able to upload nifty animated screenshots like this one http://www.lightsecond.com/metastar/metastar.php?page=sbe-100  :)

MetaStar 02:17, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

As far as I'm aware, GIFs have always been allowed (e.g. Image:tear.gif). Are you having trouble uploading the image? If so, I'll be happy to try uploading it myself. JoeyDay (Talk) 11:22, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
MediaWiki allows GIFs to be uploaded, but our image standards stress that PNG are better. I don't see a problem with using GIFs for animation use though, like Image:tear.gif. That falls right in line with Wikipedia's image policy. -- Tom 16:48, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)

English English v. American English Spelling

No Loafing and I are arguing about which should be used on the Fanstuff Wiki. No Loafing says that it should be American English (he changed all the "ou"s to "o"s) and English English isn't allowed, but I thought that it can be both. Is one form of English used, can we use both or is there no rule? «Rob»

We dont' have this problem in the knowledgebase. From taking a quick look at the talk page over there, it seems like an issue just between the two of you that you both need to resolve. Let me know how it goes. -- Tom 18:04, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

I have had this problem on this Wiki. I prefer using British English on my edits, and constantly get people "fixing" my spelling. Since it hasn’t been said outright I believe that both are acceptable as long as one is consistent within an article. - Dr Haggis - Talk 11:47, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

But suppose two articles are later merged, or one section is moved to another article? Having to check for consistency seems like a bigger nuisance than just preferring one spelling wiki-wide. I'd prefer an arbitrary dictum to either use international spellings or American spellings to allowing some mixture. Mister Mister 12:18, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)

I agree that for the Knowledge Base, spelling should be the same for the whole article (or maybe the whole Knowledge Base). But for the Fanstuff Wiki, the place is for people's creations. If they choose to create a fanstuff item, it is their creation, not other people's (unless they allow it). The person who changes to "proper spelling" it would most likely be their first and only visit to that particular page. There is no reason at all to go searching (in the Fanstuff Wiki) for "colour" and "color". A message to people who go out of their way, wasting time searching for so-called "spelling errors": American English isn't the only language. You may be able to name some other countries that use American English in defence, but English English spelling is used in many countries as well. «Rob»

One thing I don't understand is this "their creation" business. Do people realize that they are adding content to a wiki? If people wanted to retain ownership and editing rights to their content, what were they thinking posting it on a wiki? Wikis are all about having content that can be edited by anybody.
If people want ownership of pages, we should probably get rid of the fanstuff wiki and let them each get their own websites. If they don't mind other people editing their stories, then the fanstuff wiki might end up being a lot of fun -- everyone cooperating to write better and better fanstuff content.
Anyway, that's how I see it. -- Tom 18:32, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
Ah ha, now it appears that there is some sort of poll going on to this effect at this page. I will crosspost my comment there. -- Tom 18:39, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)

It think this might be a problem on the Wiki. My obvious preference is for International/British spelling as the Wiki is an international effort, but this is a community decision. - Dr Haggis - Talk 13:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

Hmm... This is a tough one. For consistency's sake, we should have one spelling standard, and since H*R is an American site, the default should be American English. You raise a valid point, Dr. Haggis; the move to international spellings has some weight behind it, but I'm ultimately swayed by the fact that the H*R site itself features American spellings, and it would be inconsistent to transcribe Strong Bad's line as "colour" when he types "color," for example.
As for 69.92.100.220's attitude, if s/he starts flaming you beyond the talk pages, someone should issue disciplinary action. Until then, just take comfort in the fact that you're more worldly and open-minded than some eleven-year-old who hadn't quite grasped the concept of "Foreign Lands." ;) --FortyTwo 14:22, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
As much as I like consistency, I would never change British English spelling to American spelling on a page. There isn't a "correct" way of doing things in this regard. Though I still wouldn't want to have two sentences one right after the other with two different spellings for the same word.
Of course, I'd imagine that some people may be ignorant of other ways of spelling things, and therefore just think a simple typo was made and feel the need to correct it. I hope we can be understanding of these people and politely explain to them, as Drhaggis did in this case, how British English is acceptable.
However, I do not think ignorance is the case in respect to 69.98.100.220. I will leave him a note on his talk page, and if he continues to change spelling he will be dealt with accordingly.
Oh, and by the way, 69.98.100.220 is ten years old, not eleven. His name is Nelson and he is registered as "No Loafing" on the Wiki and the forum. -- Tom 09:55, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

Erm...I actually turned eleven WEEKS ago.--24.117.39.10 08:41, 15 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS this is my other IP.)

That sounds re-sonable. I shall abide by your ruling. --FortyTwo 10:56, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

I don't understand the whole "community" thing. . .

If ANYONE can come on to this site and edit documents, why are they all well written with good grammar and punctuation? I thought that there would be a lot of "lol" "hahaha" and other Internet speech on here, but there isn't. Do some people come and edit the documents to make them readable? Or are people on the Internet smarter than I thought?

That's a wonderful compliment to pay a Wiki; thanks! Yes, anyone can edit, but most of the people who return to the Wiki care enough about the site to make it as useful, professional, and polished as possible. The site isn't without its "Internet speech"; if you read through the personal spaces of users, you'll see quite a bit of it. But if it appears in an article, another editor will take it out fairly quickly. Several users monitor the recent changes page to make sure that trolling and incomprehensible edits are removed. The moderators also do a wonderful job (er, a great jorb) of upholding the high standards. However (I don't have any statistics, so someone may contradict me on this), I've observed that most spelling errors and grammatic mistakes are corrected by first-time users or people who edit very rarely. So, perhaps there's yet`hope for intellectual integrity on the Internet! =) --FortyTwo 21:42, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
Also, I found that by allowing universal editibility, it will reduce the use of such jargon because they feel obligated to show a good example. But than again, people are hovering arround editing spelling and grammer, so it could be their work to. Im not exactly too sure.--38.112.87.6 12:46, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

Mirrors

I came across http://www.hrwiki.org/mirror/ today and I was wondering: How long has this been up? and also What toons are these from? Some of those are not on any toon on H*R.com. «Rob»

The mirror currently has some of the Quotes of the Week, A Jumping Jack Contest, and Marshmallow's Last Stand. It isn't designed to be assesed via the directory listing. I fixed that. -- Tom 13:09, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

How do you become a forum moderator?

How do you become a forum moderator?

Well, who ever you are (please sign your posts), to become a forum moderator an administrator or another moderator has to give you the rights to it. But, just to tell you, we just got a new one, so I don't think we'll be getting a new one anytime soon. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

Concerning an upload

This is a question directed toward the mods, but could I have permission to temporarily upload an mp3 for the purposes of maybe clearing up the voting on a fun fact in STUFF. (specifically, the fact labeled "Ping" under the dreamail heading.) Just to summarize what I've written on there, I thought that if I uploaded a clip from the song Echoes (which is under debate for this fact) temporarily to let people listen to it, this could help people who didn't want to vote due to not knowing enough about the song, or potentially change the votes of others. Any quick response would be greatly appreciated on this. --TheNintenGenius 21:13, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)

Nah, I'd rather you didn't. It's not really fair use. I wouldn't be able to stop you if you uploaded it to some other website though. And doesn't pinging sonar sound like pinging sonar? It's all the same. -- Tom 21:26, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
I would say what has already been said (the particular pinging was not sonar-made), but super orange keeps saying that and nobody is listening to him either. Well, I guess that takes my idea of potential clarification out of the running, then. Oh well. --TheNintenGenius 21:29, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)

Uploading Music

Are you allowed to upload music to the wiki? If so, do I just upload it where it says to upload images? If not, why not? I've captured all the mini-songs on the sites from the toons and emails and I want to put them up on the wiki. I know it says you can upload sounds, but I'm wondering if that's only limited to sounds and not music. Also, I have no idea what an OGG format is? Is it for Macs or something? All my clips are .WAV →evin290 10:19, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)

I don't see a reason to upload things that are easily accessible from the actual Homestar Runner site. Not to mention copyrights and such. And Ogg is a patent-free, fully open multimedia bitstream format designed for efficient streaming and storage. -- Tom 19:45, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)

Thanks. Also - How do I change a .WAV file to a .OGG file? (if I even need to.) Whenever I try to upload the WAV file, it come up with an error message saying that there wasn't any imput. →evin290 20:51, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)

I'd try a Google search for that one. -- Tom 20:59, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)

RSS or ATOM

I was wondering if it would be possible to add an RSS or ATOM feed to the H*R Updates page. I don't know how difficult this would be to do, but I--for one--would love it!!

                         -MARK
It's not actually very possible to integrate one into the Wiki feeds, but I know one of our forum members made one himself once. He explains it here. -- Tom 05:37, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)


What exactly IS RSS r ATOM anyways? --—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 02:43, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

RSS is a file format, Atom is a standard. -- Tom 02:59, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

HELP!!!!!

H*r is my faveorite website and i used to go to it for my free time. But now, when ever i go to it, all i see is a black screen. I also have flash installed. If it helps answer the question, this started the exact same day the quality 3d games on the net started to decrease. (EX. miniclip.com robot rage and crimson viper.)AND I also have a 4 vga card, which is pretty suprising that those 3d games were good quality anyway. Plus I just got dsl, which, for some reason, has an antennae and a wire to go in the phone jack. PLEASE REPLY!!!

thanks in advance.

Hi there. What browser are you using? What operating system are you using? Have you ever had any trouble with spyware? Can you see Flash on other sites? Have you tried the Macromedia Flash Test Page? Are you getting any errors? What are they? -- Tom 22:29, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)

DVD Screenshots

I was wondering, how did someone get screenshots from the Strong Bad DVD? Is there some special program that wiki members use? - Wagonfullapamcakes

Well, if you have a DVD player on your computer, you can just press the PRINT SCREEN button on your keyboard and there you have it: a screenshot →evin290 19:19, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
Not necessarily, with most DVD players you'd just get a screenshot of an almost-black screen. To save processing power most players use "overlaying", where the window is filled with a particular colour (usually a near-black) and the video card fills it in with the movie before displaying it. Most DVD software has a screen capture button though - have a look in the help. phlip 14:14, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Super Kingio Bros.

Where is the Super Kingio Bros. game at homestarrunner.com found?

The Super Kingio Bros. game is found in an easter egg in Pumpkin Carve-nival (by clicking on The King of Town). Also, please sign your posts. Thank-you. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

Linking to parts of pages

This may be kind of confusing but... Is it possible to have links that will automaticly take you to a certain part of the page? (I mean the parts that the table of contents lead to.) So say if, there's a place where the Hawaiian Man is mentioned, and I want it to link to Minor TGS Characters, but I don't want it to link to the front of the page, but rather the part that begins with the Hawaiian Man. Is it possible to use the table of contents to do something like this? --Joshua 19:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Yes it is. Simply put "#" in the link, followed by the section you want to link to. Example: To link the the Hawaiian Man, simply type [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Hawaiian Guy|Hawaiian Man]], which would take you here. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

A question about the forums

I just registered for the forums, but I accidently mistyped my email address...

Can somebody correct it from gmai.com to gmail.com, and resend my verification email, so I can actually log in to the forum? Or just delete my username out of the database, so I can resign up?

Thanks

→[[User:lightmanx5|lightmanx5]]

Lightman, I've fixed your e-mail address and activated your account, so you should be able to log into the forum now. — InterruptorJones[[]] 11:55, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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