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ICD

From: record book
Posted on: 05:57, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• Nothing else explains why the heart attacks made him twitch.

Arguments against:

• The time between twitches is very short. Of course, if it were installed by Dr. Bubs, it's not surprising.
• Wild speculation; there isn't even a hint of evidence for this.
• It's just a joke.

Additional comments:

• Heart attacks don't make people twitch.
• Does this suggest that the hypothetical internal defibrillator, which should be directing electrical impulses solely to the KoT's heart, is shocking his entire body instead?
  • Modern ICD's have up to 3 leads, so it's possible Bubs put one in the diaphragm because he didn't know which atria to put it in.

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Blue's Clues

From: record book
Posted on: 01:48, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

Arguments against:

• A bit of a stretch...
• It does sound similar, but without something else to tie it in...

Additional comments:

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Terrible jokes

From: record book
Posted on: 18:33, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• It's the only other place the groans have been heard in Homestar cartoons.
• It is clearly exactly the same sound, as opposed to a newly-recorded groan.

Arguments against:

• It's questionable that this is notable.
• The sound is quite generic.
• This is boring. TBC will probably use this sound more in the future, are we going to note it each time? Let's save this kind of observation for the truly unusual sounds, like the one from the dream sequence in "Jorb Well Done" being reused in sbemail 44 "lures and jigs".
• There is nothing about the groan that makes it special to "Senorial Day". That is, it's not really from that toon, it's just also used there. When it turns up later (which it will), it will simply be also used again.

Additional comments:

• Music and dialog references usually get noted; reused sound effects usually don't (do they?).
  • Some sound effects HAVE been noted several times as being reused, such as a sound effect in New Boots being originally from Marshmellow's Last Stand.
• Say you really, really enjoyed the groan - wouldn't you want to know where you can get more hot groan action? Wouldn't you?
• THis is pointless and no one really cares. its a a flash there not going to have a huge beavy of sounds at there disposal and its not nessacary to to. lets also put in the fun facts "the sound when strongbad types si also found in emails 1-133 (- a couple of times)". sounds are re-used even in high budget cartoonsl. in samation this fact is kinda lame
  • But this isn't a common sound effect like the typing sound, The Paper's "preeeow", the get-up noise, etc. So far, this is only the second appearance of the groans (isn't it?). Unless/Until it becomes a common staple like those other sounds, I think it is notable that the effect is being reused.
• If these groans are to be used again in future toons, I would propose making the groans into a running gag.
• Would this fact really be considered "fun" by anyone? I certainly don't think it's fun.
  • To be honest, the "not fun" argument's pretty tired... one person's trash is another's treasure.
  • Same goes for the "it's a stretch" and "it's a coincidence" arguments. Its fairly obvious when a fact is reaching and a good number of the "coincidence" uses are debatable.

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Very High Sodium

From: record book
Posted on: 12:38, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• Arguably not obvious; many people do not know about this.

Arguments against:

• Very obvious; shouldn't need to be explained.
• As it stands, the fact is not technically correct.
• And let's not forget what the KoT said after he ingested the salt?

Additional comments:

• Sodium intake is not directly linked to causing heart attacks. Rather, excessive consumption is linked to high blood pressure (hypertension), which is a risk factor for heart attacks.

Proposed revision:

Arguments for:

• Arguably not obvious; many people do not know this.
• Corrected for errors in linking health effects.

Arguments against:

• Still redundant, as it's well-known that salt is bad for the heart.
• He wouldn't get a heart attack that quickly just from the pile of salt. Salt is bad for you long-term. I don't think the joke is just about the pile of salt, but his lifestyle in general.
• This is barely any different than the original.
• Again, it's a joke. You don't need to go ruining every joke in the cartoon that isn't absolutely 100% self-explanitory by elaborately TELLING us why it's funny. Aside from which, salt being bad for the heart is common knowledge.

Additional comments:

• For what it matters, I wasn't aware of this. Regardless, the revision seems to be better than the original.
• If you look at the content of KOT's diet, you can see that, even without that pile of salt, he's just asking for heart trouble.
  • See: His X-ray on Halloween Fairstival.
• Sure, I didn't know that, but... it's kinda obvious

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Salty Reference

From: record book
Posted on: 14:55, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• TBC are known Nintendo fans and they certainly know about Kirby.
• The sound effect is exactly like Kirby's in Kirby's Adventure, just king-ified.

Arguments against:

• This is a stretch. How can you tell its referencing Kirby? Seems more like a vacuum cleaner reference to me.
• No, it just is pointing out the king is a glutton.
• Every cartoon does this joke, it may reference many cartoons.
• I might understand that this is a reference if it used a sound effect from the games or anime, but it doesn't, it's a standard vac sound effect... slightly king-ified.
• There's a definite likeness, but didn't Kirby eat things and then fire them back out in a different form? If the King had done that instead of having a rapid series of heart attacks, then it would make total sense.
• While Kirby certainly comes to mind, there's no evidence that this is an actual reference to Kirby.

Additional comments:

• It seems sort of pointless to point out.
  • Why? Not everyone has heard of kirby you know...
  • I have to agree. If someone thinks it's a Kirby reference, they can feel free to think that, but I don't think it's one way or the other. It might need a rephrase though.
• The reason is that it is nothing more than speculation. More certain facts have been deleted in the past.
• I, personally, didn't think of "OMG THEY'RE REFERENCING KIRBY!" I thought "OMG KoT'S A PIG!"
• King Dedede has been known to inhale things as well (Kirby's Dream Land 3 for one), but it's still a stretch.

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The Cheat's "Wrists"

From: record book
Posted on: 16:46, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

Arguments against:

• If it's not the first time, it's not the first time!
• Actually, this happened in caper, which came long before record book.
• And his dance in virus
• A diagram of The Cheat's anatomy in big white face shows a joint in the same area.

Additional comments:

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40 Tbsp of Insanity

From: record book
Posted on: 13:56, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• It's kinda interestling.

Arguments against:

• The king should not eat tubs of butter, or toilet paper, or anything else that he does.
• Since when were these characters human?
• Plus, is 40 tablespoons of salt REALLY enough to kill an adult human?

Additional comments:

• The most that needs to be said about the king's health is covered in this item below.
• I knew this would be declined, but I had remembered an odd bit of trivia about excessive salt consumption being used as a method of suicide in ancient Japan (turns out it was in China, too [1]), so I thought it was interesting TBC chose salt as one of the King's binges. Of course, this is also the guy who drinks Butter-da, even though "they tells him not to."

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The Ultimate Record

From: record book
Posted on: 12:34, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

Arguments against:

• Yes, it could might possibly have a chance of being a possible reference, but that isn't enough. It's more likely a random number, as all the other page numbers seen are.
• This is probably just a stupid coincidence.

Additional comments:

• The Lappy wights 42 pounds.
• Can anyone, anywhere use the number "42" and not have someone connect it to Hitchhiker's Guide?
  • Probobly not.

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This Might Be a Fun Fact

From: record book
Posted on: 15:58, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• While the style of joke is different than Foxworthy's, he is the first that comes to mind whenever I hear a joke about rednecks. I think we should at least acknowledge that these could be a nod to Jerry Clower, Jeff Foxworthy, and other related commedians. I would use language that's a little less absolute than the fact, though.
• TBC and Jeff Foxworthy are both from Georgia.

Arguments against:

• Although Jeff Foxworthy is the one most associated with redneck jokes, he does not have a monopoly on them.
• The style of Homestar's jokes is completely different from Foxworthy's "Redneck" lists.
• TBC are from Georgia.
• Uh, duh. It's because the new record book's title includes "redneck jokes," and Homestar was probably too stupid to think of a record for himself.
• There are a lot of redneck comedians: Billy Engvall, Larry the Cable Guy... just pretty much the whole Blue Collar TV crew.

Additional comments:

• Perhaps it is just a reference to the entire Blue Collar Comedy people.
• The "Redneck joke" thing goes back farther than Foxworthy. The earliest ones I've heard come from Jerry Clower. Saying this is only a ref to Jeff Foxworthy is a bit too restrictive.
• Perhaps TBC are from Georgia.- They are.

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