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The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Check out The Archives and the over STUFF'd page for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
  • Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.

Voting

New votes cast should generally be as follows:

  • Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
  • Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
  • Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
  • Decline. Reject the fun fact completely.
  • Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

Toons and E-mails

garage sale

The first mother's day toon?

All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

  • NO'D! Donny vs Universe
  • Second--User: Lappy 486 Lappy 486 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --Hamrodrunner 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Nay 71.110.2.216 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --Gafaddict 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline! If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --thatkidsam 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Not really a garage sale

Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

  • Accept. Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless

comic

CORRECTIONED

the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic

  • Revise Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --user: Lappy 486 May 2 9:25
    • Second It is too long, but does make sense. Ramrod 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • ok fixed Ganome 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Proposed Revision: the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic
  • I'm...hesitant Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg. Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. Rudeboy87 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise: The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from The Naked City, "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." PolarBoy 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact and then once that happens rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.TK600 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Should go something like this: --Gafaddict 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")

sugarbob

In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact

One of Strong Bad's "girlfriends" types "LMAO." The A stands for a mildly offensive swear word. This is the second reference to swearing on the site. (The first was Strong Bad typing "What the f" in trevor the vampire.)

  • Decline. So what? --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. This is the second time? Ack! I usually kills these things before they can get STUFF-ed. -- tomstiff 20:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second.evin290 20:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • You, my friend, just bought yourself a decline Come on. It's bad enough when we have to vote on the "What the f" fact. I strongly doubt this is really the second time - and even if it is, who cares? --Jay (Talk) 21:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. "Damn," "Hell" and even "Friggin'" could also be considered swears by some, and these are used a on the site. TK600 23:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
      • third in the egg in comic there is a 45 of Mudhoney's "You Stupid Asshole" Ganome 00:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise I like the first 2 sentences. everything after that can be discarded. --user: Lappy 486 May 2 9:30
  • God, why are people so (censored) obsessed with catolouging every blasted thing in the HR universe? Its bad enough there are facts like "This is the first time Marzipan raises an eyebrow". Jeez, Decline so hard you'd think there were two of 'em. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. thats all i can say Decline Decline Decline!
    i mean whats the point yo?!? --djm1791 07:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declinate without pizzaz and JAM! --Upset_Your_Balance 09:46, 4 May 2005 (CST)
    • Best decline ever. They tell me not to, but I still seconds it! Rudeboy87 15:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Surprisingly, "crap" is also a mildly offensive swear word. Shall we count those too when we see whether this is the 2nd or not? --phlip 16:13, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Who cares? </carl> Decline Dasrik 19:54, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-clined. Bonk
  • If the trevor the vampire one gets declined, this one should be too. Pom-Pom! And! Strong Bad! Are! Totally! Declining! --Kiwi 14:50, 6 May 2005
  • Yeah, DECLINE. --thatkidsam 13:11, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Toons! Games! Characters! Declines! First two sentences are both true, and obvious, while the third is completely untrue. The stuff in brackets has also been decided, and that's declined as well. --Venusy (Talk) (Contributions), 14:22, 7 May 2005 (BST)

garage sale

Aunt Gert

Aunt Gert being sold for 22½¢ could be because she was used in sb_email 22 when Strongbad was making fun of the English.

  • Um, hang on a sec... Come now, Spud Jr. What would Spud Sr. think if he saw your repulsive grammar, "could be say she". I seriously suggest to whoever posted this to listen to some serious Strong Bad Rhythm 'N Grammar, and then get some serious Clown Care, man. Cheatachu72 May 2 2005
  • That's funny, Cheatachu. But we don't actually have to vote on this, do we? If we do, I'll bet one can guess what my vote would be. — It's dot com 00:10, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Wait... there's a connection? Really. I don't even come close to seeing it. --Jay (Talk) 00:25, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Wait, is there a decline. Why, my young lad, I believe there is 4. And, if it were to be used in an email 22.5, that would mean it would have had to occur BETWEEN email 22 and 23. Plus, unless I'm mistaken,the doll was supposed to sell for $.25 -- Posted by: -erson Talk 00:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept..wait no! You turned that all around on me! I think this has potential to be the worst fun fact ever submitted. Ever. EVER. Donny vs Universe
    • "This is pretty much the worst video ever made." "Napoleon, like anyone can even know that."
  • DECLORNED! Actually, the "it's 25 CENTS" thing would be fine, if it made sense. Because the RQ Box-boat costs $1.04, for email $104. But still this Fun Fact is extremely stupid, but not as stupid about the one saying Sterrence was a reference to Terrance and Bloo. -- Joshua 01:48, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Wait! Maybe TBC have sent a secret message telling us that there's an as-of-yet undiscovered Easter Egg in ... awww, never mind! Declined. -- tomstiff 13:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I sense an early verdict for this one. --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declined i just dont know why we have to vote anymore it shoud be verdicted!!! --djm1791 07:37, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Because it's not May 16.
      • Who cares? This one never should have been STUFF'd in the first place, just outright delorted. Its horrible! Donny vs Universe
  • Worst... fun fact... ever. Declete. Dasrik 19:51, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Ooh! Ooh! I think I finally figured out what they meant. They meant Aunt Gert may have featured in the fictitious email that was banned in the UK, not the sbemail_22 that we see on the site today. All the same, it's just speculation. Decline. --phlip 04:26, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • File:DECLINED!.JPG - T.C.
    • Er... no offense, but I think that picture is only going to serve to make this cluttered page worse... --Jay (Talk) 15:48, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • What in the...Declined! Was Aunt Gert even IN that email?! I don't think so. -Walking Armless

Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

  • I think this needs to be revised, just because I don't really consider army to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until Cheat Commandos Commercial. --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- tomstiff 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • From the DVD commentary for army: MATT: "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
  • There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% accept As of now, I'd say weak accept. - AtionSong 15: 56 4 May 2005
    • As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 invisibility. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --tomstiff 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — It's dot com 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept with note The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in army, but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --Jay (Talk) 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --phlip 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second exactly --user: Lappy 486 6:21 May 5
      • Third... ya --djm1791 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Yes! Yes! SECOND! This is 100% true! --thatkidsam 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- Joshua
  • Accept I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.TK600 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Legless

Strong bad is legless when he says "Up-up-up! Moms only!" in the easter egg in the swf.

  • Decline I don't really think this is a goof since you can only see it in the .swf... and he doesn't say "up-up-up"No Smorking 20:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 20:40, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Third --djm1791 07:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. This one isn't even worth voting on. We have a long-standing policy that missing body parts outside the Flash frame are neither glitches nor goofs. — It's dot com 20:45, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declorned Goofs in the flash file don't count The_Pardack
    • Comment. This isn't a goof at any level. I'm no animator, but I certaintly wouldn't waste time on legs if I knew they'd never been seen! -- tomstiff 19:26, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Let's draw the line. Some things just aren't worth pointing out. Delete Dasrik 19:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • BOOO You can say the same thing for, oh, every H*R cartoon ever made. The Brothers Chaps don't bother animating body parts that don't show up anyway - what would be the point? Rudeboy87 01:25, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Have you seen the "Making of" for big Hollywood movies? Like how the sets are all sort of half-done? Wow, a lot of those directors must have goofed really badly when they forgot to build the sets where the camera's never going to point at them... --phlip 01:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • adu adu adu adu adudududiggadiggadiggadiggaDECLINED!!! normally I wouldn't be this harsh, but this is just "really dumb and bad." TK600 19:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • File:DECLINED!.JPG - T.C. (Prepare to see this a lot.)
    • Um, you should really just vote normally. --acekirby13 15:50, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
Yes, you should. In fact, I'm deleting this picture right now. →FireBird

Senor Mortgage

Potential reference

The phone number 555-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY could be a potential reference to a phone number in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, which is 1-555-55-5-55555-555-5555.

  • Decline. The whole point of the bit was to lampoon poorly made advertisments run in the middle of the day when few people are watching TV. These commercials typically end in some anoyingly catchy jingle that includes the toll- free phone number, which more often than not has the name of the business embedded among a series of repeating or sequential numbers. -- The Real Zajac 11:30, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 18:34, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. "Potential reference"! — It's dot com 00:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Agh! "Could be"! --acekirby13 20:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. If it's a could be, then it's not really a fun fact. It's just guessing. Ramrod 02:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • The too long phone number gag is not exclusive to Hitchhikers. Decline Donny vs Universe
  • Declined One is not a reference to the other. Both are a seperately reference to the fact that in <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=22&k=old%20movies" onmouseover="window.status='old movies'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=; return true;">old movies</a>, <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=22&k=phone%20numbers" onmouseover="window.status='phone numbers'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=; return true;">phone numbers</a> always started with 555- (since no area in the US at that time had that prefix). Another words, it's a coincidence. --phlip 12:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • This fun fact is OVERRR!!! Seriously, "could-be's" are not cool. Rudeboy87 14:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Deep-42'd. --Beatfox 21:32, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • TWO'nd!As much as I like H2G2, I have to disagree. TK600 23:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DECLINED! - T.C.

personal favorites

Best Email Ever?

It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention your friends in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

  • Someone keeps adding this to the page, and it keeps getting taken off, I thought it would be more appropriate here. Personally I'm ambivalent about it, what do you think? --phlip 00:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite It's not written in NPOV. I suppose I was being a little stubborn about it, though. --Jay (Talk) 02:24, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Howabouts: "In your friends, he comments that it is "the best email I have ever recieved." However he doesn't mention it as one of his favorites here" --phlip 02:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Second. Both of you are right, I should have been more careful of wording. -- SBEmail22 12:45 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
  • I don't think it was TBC intention for Strong Bad's comment to be official. Doesn't he also claim that The Basics is his favorite e-mail? Most of the e-mails in Favorites were made up anyway. Decline Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. Actually, in "your friends," SB said that the email he received was the best. In "personal favorites," he's talking about the entire email shows. There's a difference. Even if there wasn't, I still think this fun fact is too sketchy to be desired. -- Joshua 01:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline He loves all his emails like his childrens. Thus, picking certain emails should not make us think that he really values them more than those not mentioned. Or are you calling Strong Bad an unloving father?? or.. mother? or.. ew! MetaStar 05:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. I disagree. If that were the case, logically he wouldn't have answered that e-mail, or he wouldn't have stated what his favorites were. -- SBEmail22 1:59 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
      • Comment. I disagree with your disagreement. That is the case, because logically he said so. Those were (close to) his exact words. His disclaimer was pretty much designed to discourage people from thinking that he was splitting emails into 2 classes.
  • WASSUP! I DECLINE. Strong Bad has a record of being rather indecisive about his favorite email. your friends, the basics, and the fake emails from personal favorites have all been named his favorites... I think it will always be a mystery. Rudeboy87 14:50, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DECLINE! This is a cartoon! Inconsitencies are okay and really dont have to be singled out and noted. Besides, the whole "this is the best email I've ever recieved" line is purely for effect, not necesarily as a real comment. TK600 19:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Experimental Film

Un Chien Debaser

"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of the Pixies, is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

  • Accept All the links in the chain seem to be true, and even if it's not why TBC used that particular reference it's still an interesting fact. --phlip 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Even if it is true, it has no place on the EF page. Thats a Pixies fact not a Homestar Runner one. Donny vs Universe

Now spell: bound

The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to Alfred Hitchcock's Spellbound.

  • And this fact should possibly be DECLINED! Possibly...puh. Proof. Wheres your proof? Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. Say it ain't so! I thought for sure it was a Gillette Mach 3 referrence! -- tomstiff 08:41, 2 May 2005
  • Standing too close to you in DECLINE Just cuz he shaves does not mean he references a singled-out movie involving a shaving person. Does your dad ever go "hey honey, look at me, look, I'm shaving, just like in that one movie!" --[user: Lappy 486] Lappy 486 03:06, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

The Worst Commentary Ever

In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to The Simpsons, where the Comic Book Guy is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

  • ... which is in turn a reference to fans everywhere referring to every new episode of everything as the "worst ever". Even the same thing happens on the Emails board here, every email is the worst ever to someone. Besides, he's just complaining that the commentary isn't going to plan. "Worst ever" is a common enough phrase, it doesn't have to be a reference. Decline --phlip 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
  • If he said it "Worst commentary ever" like Comic book guy (I'm talking about tone of voice) would say it then yes, yes it would be a reference. But he didn't, so decline Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. Seconding all the declines before this one and all the ones sure to follow. -- tomstiff 13:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
  • ACSEPd he DID say it with the same rythm worst #stop# comimisairy #stop# ever Ganome
  • DECLINE'D!!! I doubt it...and c'mon, you people know that best/worst something ever is a running gag on H*R. TK600 19:55, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

The Clarke of infinity

The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to The Colours of Infinity, a 1995 television documentary by Arthur C. Clarke about fractal geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

  • Decline Even if true, does this belong here? Given TBC didn't write the song and all... --phlip 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Try posting it here [1] instead. AtionSong 5:37 May 2 2005
  • Maybe, but still decline The line sounds more whimsical than reference-y to me. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. Moonwatcher had no witty comment to add ... but he would think of something. --- tomstiff 13:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Even if it was, this isn't the place to write it. TMBG didn't write the song just for h*r, it's their song. TK600 00:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Football helmet = reference?

The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to Commander Keen, Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

  • Decline The ATM and Keen have nothing else in common that suggests this might be a reference... besides, Keen's helmet has a green and white stripe, not a blue one. --phlip 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Donny vs Universe
    • Second Yeah, I thought that at first, but it's not really the same. No Smorking 13:28, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second, third, whatever Huh, I didn't notice that the stripe was not the right color. --NFITC1 23:31, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Sometimes a football helmet is just ... awww, never mind! -- tomstiff 13:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

current status

Send In The Clown

Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot for McDonald's.

  • Comment. This one has been added and deleted about X0 times. Rather than waste valuable mission time, I STUFFed it. Allez cuisine! -- tomstiff 19:14, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Still Decline What the crap?! This website is about Homestar, not McDonalds. --acekirby13 19:23, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC) My bad...but it's still waaaaaaay too obvious. {Starts singing Everyobody Knows It}... --acekirby13 19:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Ah still decline! You're getting more popular as the days go on! Yeah, decline' Donny vs Universe
    • Comment. Remember the context. Coach B complains about his "clown feet" then grumbles something about "Ronald McDonald." -- tomstiff 19:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Very Weak Decline. I'm always amazed by what people don't know, but ... something tells me that ol' Ron is pretty well known the world over! -- tomstiff 19:32, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. It's true, and I don't like to reject outside references on the basis of being too obvious. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:24, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second.It's dot com 13:55, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I'm gonna second that. --Beatfox 22:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Well I do. --user: Lappy 486 27 Apr
  • DUH! cline Me too. Rudeboy87 13:45, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Do you want decline with that? Sorry, this falls under the category of "so obvious (insert name here) could see it." --ISlayedTheKerrek 17:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Is this one of those declined fun facts? Like the ones that Moms and off-shore casinos post?.-- Posted by: -erson Talk 18:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Hey! A reference is a reference. Obvious or not! Kvb 19:02, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • But it's too obvious! I quote "but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them" from the things that make good fun facts. --acekirby13 15:11, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Hey! Did you know tha Pikachu is a Pokemon?!? C'mon folks, this fact isn't like the Four Armed Grimace reference. People already know who Ronald is. Donny vs Universe
      • You're using the example from the top of the STUFF page, but it's a bad example (and really should be changed). Many people, myself included, have no real idea what a Pokemon is, even less who Pikachu is.
      • I think enough people do know that it doesn't have to be listed. No matter how well known something is there will ALWAYS be someone who doesn't know about it. That doesn't mean we need to explain each and every reference. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. The philosophy that nothing is too obvious does not work. If Jesus appeared in a cartoon it would be ridiculous to make a fact about him. Even though (as far as I know) Ronald McDonald isn't religiously worshipped by millions over the world, he is extremely and widely well known. --Eujensc 13:13, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second, I mean, do you want me to add "Homestar Runner is a popular web cartoon" or "The language primary used in this email is 'English', named after an island dwelling European nation" as fun facts to every cartoon? There is a fun fact describing brunswick stew in new boots, does that mean we need one describing biscuit dough in the jail cartoon?
      • I mean, do you want me to ask you to sign your vote? Or do you want me to say SIGN YOUR VOTE.? --ISlayedTheKerrek 02:11, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
        • I think there are enough declines for this fact that he doesn't have to. Still doesn't count though. Donny vs Universe
  • Quote:(but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)are you telling me that not everybody will already recognize this? --user:Lappy 486today at now

theme park

Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?

(A)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show Survivor: Pearl Islands (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to techno.

(B)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Sterritt, a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.

  • I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. Accept that one, but Neutral on the former; could be either way, really. --Shadow Hog 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Meeehh When there are two likely answers, hang them both. Donny vs Universe
  • Double Accept I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? user: lappy 486
    • Second. It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--rsl12 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --Beatfox 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second.Why did this get STUFFed? AtionSong11:33, 30 Apr 2005
    • Seconded with a capital S --djm1791 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline the former, accept the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --Andorra409 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? {is confused} --Jay 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. Donny vs Universe
        • Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --Jay (Talk) 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
          • Probably just means that it's something of a weak Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --Shadow Hog 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
            • Sorry for the confusion, I meant to accept the first, and weak accept the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --Andorra409 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline A, Accept B --Jay 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Move A, Decline B.' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --ISlayedTheKerrek 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
    • Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --Shadow Hog 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Both -- Joshua

couch patch

Computer miscommunications

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

  • Revise. Uhh...I sort of catch your meaning. -MK and/or BurnBox 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Most dictionaries list it as one word: crosstalk.It's dot com 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". Donny vs Universe
    • Second, to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
  • Revise You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. GillanTheVillain 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Decline. I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --TheEggman 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --Beatfox 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --NFITC1
  • Revise. Should go something like this: --Gafaddict 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."
  • Exobably not. I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. Rudeboy87 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an Accept, preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
      • Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. Rudeboy87 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
        • The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. Donny vs Universe
  • No. I think he means like "backtalk." TK600 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Blue Laser Commander

A legendary voice, you screech?

The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

  • Decline. I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- ISlayedTheKerrek 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --Jay 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Un-second Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a PARODY, when the fun-fact-adder said reference? Cheatachu72 Apr 2005
    • Second. --Trogga 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- tomstiff 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --Jay 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so Decline. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? Donny vs Universe
    • Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- tomstiff 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Acceptinated! But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
  • Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. ISlayedTheKerrek 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • ACCEPT. This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a very distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. Chris Latta gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is clearly mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — It's dot com 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- tomstiff 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more interwiki links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, I did. — IDC 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the CHARACTER not the guy doing the voice. Donny vs Universe
  • ACCEPTED! For reasons already stated. -- Homsar999ß 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
  • My first-ever accept. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. Rudeboy87 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Arrgh!! You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. Donny vs Universe
    • I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. ISlayedTheKerrek 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Right On! -- tomstiff 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the Blue Laser Commander voice? Parody. Cheatachu72 Apr 2005
  • Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
  • Does THAT work? --Jay 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. still decline All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. Donny vs Universe
      • Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --Jay 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. Donny vs Universe
        • Fair enough Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --Jay 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • No special comment this time, just Accept Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---the spludge 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Awxome Axept TK600 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Under Construction

Get That Character A Kleenex!

1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the anime cliche that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".

The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo, where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
  • "MAYBE'D!"I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--MrsCommanderson 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- tomstiff 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Agree I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. - Dr Haggis - Talk 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept 1st, Decline 2nd I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. Dasrik 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. Decline the second
  • No and no. It's snot. Rudeboy87 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept (though possibly revise?) Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The Snot Bubble is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--rsl12 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --Beatfox 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Kvb 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.Rebochan 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --Trogga 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • NuetralSo what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?The_Pardack
  • Decline Note the commentary for japanese cartoon. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. Suicune64 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • WITHDRAWN Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. - Dr Haggis - Talk 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be Rewritten. I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.TakuaKaita600 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. ISlayedTheKerrek
  • No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. Accept. → FireBird
  • It'Snot Blood I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --user: Lappy 486 30 Apr 9:32

trevor the vampire

Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F

When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

Verdict: After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly Declined by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to Talk:trevor the vampire. --acekirby13 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

japanese cartoon

So cool an unseen email

Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:japanese cartoon -- tomstiff 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Oolong's Namesake

Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for Combolations in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or Oolong the rabbit, whose owner is Japanese.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:japanese cartoon -- tomstiff 16:58, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

MikeMike And Matt Rock

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to Mike and Matt Chapman.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:japanese cartoon -- tomstiff 17:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

The Li'l Brudder Show

Ugly Animation

The animation resembles the work of Klasky Csupo (most famous for Rugrats), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show -- tomstiff 14:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Things are lookin' up!

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")TakuaKaita600 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show. -- tomstiff 15:00, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

dangeresque 3

Constantinople?

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to They Might Be Giants, who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with TBC on several occasions.

Verdict: After two weeks of voting, this fact was Declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:dangeresque 3. --acekirby13 20:21, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

rampage

Jammin'

"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to time capsule.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rampage -- tomstiff

rampage easter egg

At the end of the SBEmail rampage, in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail morning routine.

  • Decline It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --Jay 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh oops. I missed that.
  • However, there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
  • Accept i guess It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --user: Lappy 486
  • Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --Jay 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Laugh and grow fat

This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rampage. -- tomstiff

pizzaz

So many a reference

Given the Brothers Chaps' obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference Fryguy, given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

  • I'm not gonna write a "Declined" joke this week... Ryu was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this email, however since there's so many things it could be a reference to (just search the web for "RyGuy") it's not certain. Either pick one and prove it, or this is textbook TTATOT --phlip 15:41, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declined "RyGuy" is a nickname for Ryan, not a reference to anything. I happen to have a friend named Ryan, who a lot of people call "RyGuy". Do I go around saying "Is that a reference to...?!" No, I don't. --acekirby13 20:54, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

long pants

Edga Jr. removes text?

Strong Bad opens up Edga Jr. and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

  • Weak Decline Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --TheEggman 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment. Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to Severe Decline. --TheEggman 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment.The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
  • Accept. I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --Joshua 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --TheEggman 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- tomstiff 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first. I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.TakuaKaita600 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept, Rewrite yep, it's true what the man says.
  • Acceptomundo I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. User: Lappy 486

Main Page 6

Outta Sync?

Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

  • Decline If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --the spludge 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
  • Decline Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
  • Revise and Accept. It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — It's dot com 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
    • Second Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --Joshua 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --TheEggman 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --thatkidsam 23:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline As I said on Talk:Main Page 6, there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --phlip 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- tomstiff 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

best thing

limozeen

Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

Verdict: A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was Declined. The discussion can be found at Talk:best thing. --acekirby13 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Who is John Bozar?

Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of Mr. Mxyzptlk, a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

He also bears a resemblance to the Great Gazoo from The Flintstones.
He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show Mighty Max called Dr. Zygote, who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.
He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.
He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character Q from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.
  • Keep Mr. Mxyzptlk and The Great Gazoo. Scrap the rest. -- tomstiff 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Trogga 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --TheEggman 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Comment. Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --TheEggman 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Comment. According to Wikipedia, Mr. Mxyzptlk was introduced in 1944. -- tomstiff 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • Comment. My bad - I didn't realize he was THAT old. Curse the internet for diseminating false information! In any case, I still think he's an amalgam of Mxyzptlk, Gazoo, Q, and Riddler - but then we get into TTATOT territory. Still, with this being an OBVIOUS Hanna Barbera parody, I think Gazoo should take precedence. --TheEggman 14:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --Jay 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment and Decline Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. Which brings up my point. All of the references for the metal jaw fact were declined. I see no reason that this should be any different. --acekirby13 19:31, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Alternative vs. Hair Metal

The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.

  • Revise. A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. ISlayedTheKerrek 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --211.252.38.203 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise! English, please? --Aussie Evil 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --TheEggman 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --Trogga 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. ISlayedTheKerrek 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Accept New Vresion I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --acekirby13 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Slightly Revise... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --TheEggman 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Oh yeah, forgot about that. --acekirby13 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I just don't like this one. --user: lappy 486 25 Apr
  • Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --ISlayedTheKerrek 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

secret recipes

The bouncing ball

When Coach Z bounces the basketball, it sounds like a dodgeball instead of a basketball.

  • Decline a bounce is a bounce The_Pardack
  • Accept. First thing I thought of when I heard the bounce. TBC needs a new Foley artist! -- tomstiff 15:07, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DeclineThis was under "goofs" wasn't it? Gads, I hate facts like this. Its a sound effect, so who cares? Donny vs Universe
  • Decline It may sound like a dodge ball, but in the DVD, when Mike Chapman is going against Homestar in Basketball, that's how their basketball sounds. Snailmail

Pamcakes and Pimecones

Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in montage.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:secret recipes -- tomstiff 17:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Bumdumbourge and Totalslava

Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

VERDICT: This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at Talk:secret recipes -- tomstiff 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

origins

Cut the Crusts

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

  • Decline. The tune is not the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -166.102.250.139 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
  • Accept, um, sorta In the Strong Bad Email Band Names, Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
  • Accept Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.Fizz123
    • Comment from original poster Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -162.39.226.54 (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
  • Umm... Guys, this fact is still on the page...
    • Comment. You can fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --Beatfox 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept.Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.

Señor & Mr.Bland

Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of Marshmallow's Last Stand. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:origins -- tomstiff 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Face the Camera

This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

  • Decline. "One of the..." Is a no-no. Kvb 13:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Beatfox 21:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • You being threatened with a DECLINE I don't think this is even worthy of being noticed, it is stupid. >:P --User: Lappy 486 8:00 Apr 26

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2

Fifty frickin' wings

The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2 -- tomstiff 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

Who's that Drummond?

One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, Diff'rent Strokes. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band The KLF. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

  • Decline. I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --Trogga 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --acekirby13 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- tomstiff 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --Jay (Talk) 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline all 3. Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --Beatfox 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Facty's Big Chance

Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the Goonland character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8 -- tomstiff 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Fender Guitars

During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

  • Rewrite. The machine heads (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- 70.19.78.90
  • Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
  • badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. ISlayedTheKerrek
    • kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
      • anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. Dasrik 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Everybody, shuttup, or this fist in your face will count, at... breaking... your teeeth..

BTW, Declined --User: Lappy 486

The Reddest Radish

Back Buttons

The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the Telebision Toons Menu, which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:The Reddest Radish -- tomstiff 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Homestar Presents: Presents

Homestar's Clock

It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

  • First of all, analog clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a digital clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Revise and accept Not in Alaska.
  • Revise and accept first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? ~~Frogz~~
    • You know alot about clocks.
  • Revise and accept What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
  • Rewrite To something like:
  • Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
    • Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by Pianoplayerontheroof
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Third...I mean.. Second. --RPharazon
    • Second Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..Donny vs Universe
  • Accept However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
  • Decline I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --TheEggman 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does. Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. Fizz123(I'm not logged in.)
  • Accept. Super Sam 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh, cwap! It's Declined! Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... User: Lappy 486

Slippers

Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in caper.

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents -- tomstiff 17:16, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Blade man

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from personal favorites.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents -- tomstiff 17:19, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Charlie Brown

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

  • Decline. Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. It's dot com 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. --racerx_is_alive 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Neutral The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in The Best Decemberween Ever, which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --Jay 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Weak Decline. ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in 3 Times Halloween Funjob, as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --TheEggman 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Move to Homestar's House. --Trogga 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
    • Comment. You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --TheEggman

Wizard of Oz

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

  • Decline. Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Accept. And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--HeartBurn Kid 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
      • Accept Second'd I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --TheEggman 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
      • Second --Trogga 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
        • Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --Jay 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. --racerx_is_alive 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
    • Decline for the pudgy. What the armless guy said. --Beatfox 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Second I think that is just Homsar-ness. --User:Lappy 486

Beat It

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

VERDICT: By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- ISlayedTheKerrek 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

If you go up stairs you are on the second floor

Homestar's room is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

  • True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • decline A tad too obvious. --super orange! 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. Xycho
    • No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". Rainer
  • Decline. Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
    • 'Comment - Most houses are one-storey. "Most rooms are" I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - Rainer
  • Decline Well EXCUSE ME. Xycho
  • Accept This is interesting because it is here that it's revealed that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even is a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. It's dot com 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Declinio Kvb 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--homestar3.14 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline That is about as obvious as saying "if there is a building with 5 floors and you go to the top floor, you are on the 5th floor." User: Lappy 486

Coach Z's Phone

Coach Z's phone is the same one from replacement.

VERDICT: This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. --Trogga 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

It's odd considering...

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents -- tomstiff 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

  • Revise, accept. It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --Lyzz
    • Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --TDK
  • Accept. This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --Chrysaor
  • Revise, accept. I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --Ogog
    • Comment Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun Facts here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --TheEggman

"state trooper"

Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song Straight Shooter by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." Terra Rising Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents -- tomstiff 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

  • Decline I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --FortyTwo 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Agree I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
  • Agree I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -Hagurumon
  • Accept I noticed it to. --super oraaaange!
  • Revise and Accept I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --Noshtzy
  • Accept. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --Kerrek Slaya!
  • Accept, but move. If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --TheEggman 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline-pthoo I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. User: Lappy 486
    • Second. This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --Beatfox 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Trogga 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

animal

Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

  • Accept. --J to the sag
  • Neutral Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --Tim333
  • Accept. There's something wrong with this. --The Real Zajac 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Accept but Move. It's definitely odd, but put this on Lappy 486 unless things change next email. -- Mithent 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --MadEwokHerd 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See rock opera - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --TheEggman 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Standing too close to you in Decline --User: Lappy 486
  • Decline. Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- tomstiff 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- tomstiff 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Off-screen typing

Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

Verdict: After many weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on animal, and the discussion can be found at Talk:animal. --acekirby13 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.

--Upsilon

Baby Doll Crazy Dance

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

VERDICT: This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at Talk:animal -- tomstiff 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Fanglyfish

The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the anglerfish. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

  • STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --Jay 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite. "Though Strong Bad wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an angelerfish, he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. Fizz to the 123
  • Accept but rewrite I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. -- User: Lappy 486
  • Rewrite. "Strong Bad's 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world anglerfish. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --Beatfox 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

virus

Real virus?

Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:virus -- tomstiff 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The Number 423,827

I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date by the site since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:virus -- tomstiff 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Drive letter

After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command

  • Accept Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --flashstorm 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --TheEggman 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --User: Lappy 486
  • Strong Decline This happenes all the time with the Compy. --BenRK 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- tomstiff 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Quote of the Day (or so)

Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

Template:STUFF verdict --Gafaddict 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

The Compy's Reign

This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.

  • Decline. This is a comment, not a fact. --Trogga 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --tomstiff 07 Apr 2005
  • Revise. Strike the second sentence and add a link to Compy 386. --tomstiff 07 Apr 2005
  • Rewrite. "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --TheEggman 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Declination Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--Posted by -erson 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. User: Lappy 486

Shopping for Danger

Blue Laser Babies

The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Shopping for Danger -- tomstiff 13:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch

The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Shopping for Danger -- tomstiff 13:51, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Disney "Mickey" Logo

All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Shopping for Danger -- tomstiff 13:48, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Cheat Commandos Commercial

For the little 'uns

All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

  • Accept. It says "ages 3-5" quite clearly at the bottom right of each action figure package. Why was this STUFF-ed? -- tomstiff 02:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Aurora the Homestar Coder 03:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. Does this really need to be noted at all? I mean, it *is* right there on the package! I haven't changed my vote yet, but ... -- tomstiff 13:44, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • What? Undelete it! Undelete it! Do something! Do anything! *ahem* Accept. --Jay 06:23, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Oy. Come on, people...not every Fun Fact needs to be here. --ISlayedTheKerrek 15:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • I hate to be the one to do this when everyone else is accepting, but...SO? I mean, what's your point? Decline. --Kiwi 18:48, 28 Apr 2005
  • Accept but move to the package captions list at the bottom of that page. --phlip 20:27, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Beatfox 22:24, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

lackey

Unemployed?

In montage, The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

Verdict: After over two weeks of voting, this fact was Declined with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on Talk:montage. --Gafaddict 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Strong Sad's Lament

Strong Bad's Lament?

History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

Verdict: After over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on Strong Sad's Lament, and the discussion can be found on Talk:Strong Sad's Lament. --acekirby13 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5

Most Legible?

Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said. --VolatileChemical 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

VERDICT: After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5. --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

A Jorb Well Done

Strong Sad's Tape

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --VolatileChemical 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:A Jorb Well Done -- tomstiff 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

caffeine

Peacy Prize

Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the Nobel Foundation's Peace Prize.

  • Accept. Uh... why was this stuffed? Unless people think it's too obvious? Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Very Weak Accept. I suppose, but does every joke need to be explained? -- tomstiff 13:41, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • When was the last time I accepted something? I've seen more obvious Real-world refs. Kvb 15:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • It is too obvious, but STUFFing it was unnecessary. Accept. --ISlayedTheKerrek 15:28, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Well, good to see people agree with me, but I just thought that since that Hoofton-Mifflin joke was very obvious, but it was still Fun Fact'd, so I just thought this shoudl be to. I guess I'll be adding that now. --VolatileChemical 16:59 Apr 27 2005 (EMT)
  • Decline. The only difference between "Nobel Peace Prize" and "Nobel Peacey Prize" is the letter "y". Way too obvious. --Gafaddict 00:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Oh come on, Gafaddict, you gotta do better than that. --ISlayedTheKerrek 17:47, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Bushes

This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

Games

Thy Dungeonman

Earthbound

Dungeonman might be a reference to Brick Road from "Earthbound," who was attempting to attain the title of "Dungeonman" throughout the course of the game.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Thy Dungeonman -- tomstiff 14:40, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Peasant's Quest

Two names?

When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Peasant's Quest -- tomstiff 13:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Videlectrix Ajax

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

  • Decline It's too general. Similarity =/= reference. --Jay (Talk) 17:18, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • And action figure is Strong Bad email #42 that could be a referance to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Decline! The_Pardack
  • Decline. I betcha if we try hard enough we can turn this into a TMBG reference. They know TBC y'know. -- tomstiff 17:54, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Stinkoman_20X6

Control Scheme

The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

Verdict: After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to Talk:Stinkoman_20X6. --acekirby13 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ninja Gaiden Levels

Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

VERDICT: After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --ISlayedTheKerrek 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Stoves

Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

Verdict: After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously Declined. Moved to Talk:Stinkoman_20X6. --acekirby13 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

More Levels

When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

  • Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --Ogog
  • Accept Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --Shadow Hog 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, Decline. --Ogog
  • Weak Accept It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. Dasrik 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --Joshua 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept & Revise Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -Miss Free Country USA
  • Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question. TK600 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Stone Fist

When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 -- tomstiff 17:24, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Engrish

The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 -- tomstiff 17:26, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Brody

Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 -- tomstiff 17:27, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Tampo

The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 -- tomstiff 17:30, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Black Spots

Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 -- tomstiff 17:30, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Rose Blake

When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

  • Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined! Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --ISlayedTheKerrek 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Slightly like? Oh, man! -- tomstiff 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy! -- Kiwi 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
  • Gimme a D-cline. --Beatfox 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Stlunko

Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...

  • ...the final boss in the Donkey Kong game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
  • ...Gamma from Mega Man 3.
  • ...Rudy, the final boss of Wario Land 3.
  • ...Kerozene, a boss added to the Game Boy Advance version of Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest.
  • Decline. If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --Beatfox 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline, you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --phlip 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. TK600 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Well, if I had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --Shadow Hog 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Bronco Trolleys

Wagon Wheel

This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about hankering for a hunk of cheese. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a TBC homage. --beanluc 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

  • Accept. I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
  • Rewrite Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- Tim333
    • Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --beanluc
  • Rewrite It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
  • Accept. --Upsilon
  • Decline In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
    • Please sign your vote. --Trogga 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Second the last unsigned vote. Fizzy Again!
  • Second the last unsigned vote. --15.235.153.95 18:13, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.TakuaKaita600 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I just read the article mentioned above. No intentional homage mentioned! -- tomstiff 14:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

General

Wonkavision Magazine Interview

She loves me...

The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

  • What?! This is just random speculation trying to connect random words randomly. Thus, this deserves to get a Random Decline. --Jay (Talk) 02:16, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 15:30, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I'm the one who wrote this fact, and think it's more likely than Homestar confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad. Why not Rewrite it? --Trogga 15:14, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Because it doesn't make any sense? I don't think he's confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad and I don't think your explanation works either. It's just randomness. --Jay (Talk) 17:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
  • This deserves to be deleted at once. DECLINE! --ISlayedTheKerrek 18:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
  • OK, I rewrote myself. Now does it make sense? --Trogga 23:56, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Ummmm, what I think some of us are tryin' to say here is that we don't believe there's any connection between Homestar's utterance and Strong Sad. IMHO, no amount of rewriting is gonna change that. -- tomstiff 13:37, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Second I'll have what he's having, with a side order of Decline. --phlip 13:44, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
        • Second --Jay (Talk) 19:47, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
          • Jay, didn't you already vote? BTW, DECLINE.TK600 20:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Cross-Toon Facts

Parents

When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

VERDICT: By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --ISlayedTheKerrek 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The discussion can be found at the STUFF Archive. --Trogga 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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