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<div style="background:gold;border:1px #990 dashed;padding:12px"><center>'''This page is preserved here as an archive. The votes are ''not'' active. Please see [[HRWiki:STUFF]] for active votes.'''</center></div>
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Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).
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The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).
Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''
Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''
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Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.
Things that always make good fun facts:
Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
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* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
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* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")
Things that often do not make good fun facts:
Things that often do not make good fun facts:
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* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
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* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things already noted in the transcript
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If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.
If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.
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If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
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If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
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[[Category:STUFF|Old STUFF]]
== Voting ==
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
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* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
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* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
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* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)
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**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.
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== Toons and E-mails ==
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== STUFF'd Facts ==
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===[[mile]]===
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===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
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====Fourth Wall Break?====
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====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
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Strong Bad made a [[Fourth Wall Break]] when he said that he wasn't going to answer an email that week.
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In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
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*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place?  This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*I'm the one who STUFF'd this, and it was mentioned in [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], not [[The King of Town DVD]]. This fact is supposed to apply to a fourth wall breakage. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 07:19, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**And it still deserves a '''Decline,''' because it's a pointless fun fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:53, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline with a vengence''' The entire idea of the characters doing commentaries is a fourth wall breaking excercise. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Decline''' I'm ready to "decline" the entire idea of logging "fourth wall breaks"... Strong Bad is constantly making it clear that he knows he's performing for an audience (e.g. "So, until next week, keep sending me those emails...") - Dingell
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===[[different town]]===
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====Beastie Boys====
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"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
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*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
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*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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===[[little questions]]===
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The Cheat made a [[Fourth Wall Break]] by making a Strong Bad Email complete with a loading screen and The Paper.
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====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
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The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of <i>Monty Python's Holy Grail</i>.
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*'''Decline''' There is a very key difference between them. In Monty Python, the subtitles are meant to look like they're in a foreign language when they're not. In little questions, they are meant to look English, translating pseudo-English being spoken to a Swede. That's not close enough for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:00, 14 Mar 2005 (CST)
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*'''Decline.''' Entirely different subtitle gags - they just happen to share a common language.  Also, the Holy Grail subtitles are not accompanied by the original audio that the subtitles are translating (I *know* there isn't an original audio track - I'm making a point here). And one more thing, the subtitles in 'little questions' are in English, not even QUASI-psuedo-Swedish. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:03, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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===[[crying]]===
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*I decided to STUFF my own fact after it was deleted (the top one) because I think it could be something of a fourth wall break. On the [[Talk:mile|Talk]] page, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] said that if that isn't a break, perhaps the Cheat-powered email was, because it not only included just an email, but a loading screen and The Paper, which would not necessarily be needed there. Any revisions/rewrites would be helpful, as I usually can't word these well. I also realize that Strong Bad addressing the viewer isn't normally accepted, but I think the fact that he refused to answer an email from the audience has to be something. So I am going to '''accept''' this fact, although I suppose my vote is a bit biased in this case. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:03, 16 Jun 2005
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====Crying like we've done before====
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*'''Accept''' I'm gonna have to Accept this fact. --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 15:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].
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*'''Comment''' Probably my last chance for a personal comment on STUFF. Ahem. I want SO badly to vote on this, but I have a different view than almost everyone else on the Wiki concerning Fourth Wall Breaks. So I'll just comment: every single Strong Bad Email implies by its very nature that Strong Bad knows he's being watched (well, okay, in [[anything]] it's Homestar) so the first one is tremendously redundant. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant, uninteresting, unacceptable. I don't see any reason to make note of this at all. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:47, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second the comment.''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:00, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.  
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**'''Second the comment''' [[User:Eric|Eric]] 00:10, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Not very fun or interesting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:12, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
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* Really, they break the fourth wall so often that its not really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Decline''' And did you know that "Homsar" is the second e-mail that Strong Bad appears in? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''COMMENT.''' Okay, so that may not be in everyone's best favor. What about the second one? --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 14:11, 16 Jun 2005 (EST)
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*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines above. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
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** '''Not neccesary'''. Strong Bad speaks to the camera and says that hes "not doing one this week". The entire e-mail is a fourth wall break (more so than normal) so its not neccesary to pick apart specific parts of it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Decline''' Though I did post a similar fun fact in Homestarloween Party using the knowledge from this fact. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====All y'alls====
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===[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]===
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"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].
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*'''Decline''' A slight stretch. I don't think Strong Bad said the exact same thing, and probably has said "all a y'alls" In another toon or sbemail. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' I live in Houston, and I hear "all y'all" about 749 times a day. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
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**True, it's a common saying. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
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*'''Decline''' Agreed. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
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===[[New Intro]]===
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====Is Your Refrigerator Perry Running?====
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The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.
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Strong Mad's greeting, "IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING" is obviously a reference to his attempted prank call in [[Marzipan%27s Answering Machine Version 4.0]]
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*'''Accept'''. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' I think they're both obvious references to the old prank call, but not to each other... <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline as written.''' But see revision below. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
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**'''Second''' As Homestar said, "Boring." --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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===[[2 emails]]===
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'''REVISE TO:''' Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on [[Marzipan%27s Answering Machine Version 4.0]].
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====Ladies' Choice Awards====
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*'''Accept the revision.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 01:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.
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*'''Accept.''' I mean, he must ''really'' think that joke is funny. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*Please, please, please tell me that the reformed STUFF process will not allow mid-stream changes like this to take place. Sometimes you can hardly tell what is being voted on! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**This is similar to the new format. Everything below the words "revise to" above is separate from the original fact. Notice that I declined the original and accepted the revision. The '''[[HRWiki:STUFF/demo|new format]]''', which we hope to have ready in the next couple of days, will be more clear. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess. -- [[User:Ironcladlou|ironcladlou]]
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*'''Accept but revise''' I'd revise it to " Strong Mad's greeting, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING", is almost the same as his greeting in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.
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**'''Sorcorndorned!''' (seconded) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Still Decline''' For the reason stated by Aurora. And once again, the revision is almost exactly like the fact originally submitted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**The difference is subtle, but the original fact states that one ''refers'' to the other, whereas the revision merely states that he tries the same joke again, like a running gag. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** Yeah, I got that. Theres still not that big a difference between the two different wordings. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Accept.''' Much better. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' They could be talking about something else. Maybe a '''Revise''' could also be in order; lest we forget the People's Choice Awards? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:11, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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===[[dangeresque 3]]===
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**'''Decline Second'd.''' It's probably more a reference to People's Choice than Kids' Choice since the former has been around longer.  In any case, this joke is obvious enough that it doesn't need explanation. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:14, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====So holdable a gun====
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**'''Second.''' It's a People's Choice reference...
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The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on [http://www.thoraxcorp.com/intern.html this] Thoraxcorp.com page.
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**'''Second''' Also Critic's choice awards--[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]] 16:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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***'''Comment.''' The Kids' Choice Awards themselves are probably a reference to the People's Choice Awards anyway.
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*'''Neutral''' Not really sure I care. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
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====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
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*'''Accept''' I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would. Its a true fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
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*'''Accept.''' It's worth noting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
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*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
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**'''Second.''' Good fun fact. Cute refrence. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Accept''' Yeah, I like it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
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**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
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** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
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===[[dreamail]]===
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====People's Court====
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====those weird little kids====
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As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The [http://www.80stvthemes.com/ra/PEOPLESCOURT.ra theme] From [[Wikipedia:The_People%27s_Court|The People's Court"]].
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*'''Duh-duh Decline!''' I don't think so. And don't sign your new facts; sign your votes. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**You've have got a looooooad of nerve telling me not to edit other people. The only reason I'm on this useless STUFF page is because other people, including you, wouldn't leave my post alone.
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*** Okay, drop the flaming. On article pages, people are perfectly entitled to remove facts that they don't like, within reason. It is NEVER acceptable to alter someone's comments on a talk page (this isn't TECHNICALLY a talk page but the same rules apply) for any reason, short of removing an entire discussion for space reasons or because it has been obsoleted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' If you just listen to the intro you won't get it. But if you listen at 0:35 and 3:34 it is plain that it is the same theme. It is not the same recording but the same music. Everyone I've shown it to agreed and was grateful that I figured out where they'd heard it before. --[[User:Freshmutt|FM]] 21:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** That wasn't meant as an insult, I was attempting (though perhaps failing) to imitate the Dangeresque theme in my Decline. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' I listened to it at those times, and while it is very similar, I must say that it is highly unlikely that TBC used the exact theme.  That would leave them open to copyright infringement, which would be bad.  I do think it sounds like it could be the inspiration, but it is in no way the same song  --[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] 21:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** I got news for you  Johnnie Cockran, censoring the info on this page will not protect TBC from copyright infringement. What protects them is that what they do is parody. How do you think they get away with all the Decemberween costumes? They use bits of other peoples work all the time. The best way for them to get in trouble is to NOT admit that it the People's Court and claim it as original. Just ask George Harrison, Ray Parker Jr. and Vanilla Ice.
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***Actually, I'd say it's better to give someone else credit for their work than to use their work and claim it as your own.  --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 03:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I just listened (ugh, Real Player) and it's certainly not exactly the same song. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Not the same song, no matter how much FM wants it to be. As for copyright info, parody is protected under the fair use law so long as you don't make money off it. TBC have had issues with people stealing thier work before so I doubt they'd be so quick to do it to others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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===[[Experimental Film]]===   
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*'''Strong Decline.''' Nowhere in the context of the email is anything that may narrowly resemble Scooby-Doo. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====The Water====   
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*'''Decline.''' Maybe if he said "those weird little kids and that dog" or more obviously, "those meddling kids", it would more "quite possible". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:17, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a [http://img300.echo.cx/img300/1626/floodedschoolintheexperimental.png similar image] can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.
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**'''Responding to the previous two''' He says in the same sentence that he's solving a Celebrity ''Murder Mystery'' which is what the Scooby gang did all the time. I don't much care for that series myself, but it's probably true. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
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*'''Accept/Rephrase''' There were many other cartoons like that too, it may not be that particular one, but it's most likely a reference to that one since it's the most well known. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
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*'''Decline.''' I don't think Scooby actually ever dealt with a murder, let alone a celebrity murder. But even if he did there isn't anything in the e-mail to suggest a connection to Scooby. Strong Bad doesn't even mention a cartoon in the sub scene. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:58, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:51, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' You’re joking right? ‘Those weird little kids’ could be a reference to a lot of things; ''Village of the Damned'', ''The Ring'', ''The Shinning'' etc. Besides Scooby and the gang are teenagers not little kids. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
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=== [[old comics]] ===
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*'''Decline''' I think its just a coincidence.  -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
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*Oh, well I'll just get out my ''thesaurus!'' --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Decline with a comment.''' So wait, VolatileChemical, is that a decline? Or is that just a comment? --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:20, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
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** '''Second''' both the vote and the question. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*It was just a sarcastic comment. No, it wasn't a decline in any way. Are the submitters even aloud to vote? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** If they're not ''allowed'' to vote, then I break the rules left and right - I almost always vote on a fact right as I submit it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*** I think it's a good idea for a submitter to vote and explain his/her vote, so other users can see why it was stuffed in the first place. And '''decline''' to this ridiculous fact. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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****I usually just delete silly facts like this one. When I do STUFF, I most certainly vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*****'''Second''' to all these subcomments. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Donnie Declineo''' Sorry. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*My mouth tastes like... '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
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===[[sisters]]===
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Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47".  Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.
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====Love/Hate Relationship====
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*'''Accept''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 15:49, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in [[gimmicks]].
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*'''Accept''' or even better '''Move'''. Excellent observation, but I think it would serve better on Strong Bad's and Homestar Runner's character biographies, stating that they must both have been born prior to 1947 according to this email. --[[User:62.252.224.13|62.252.224.13]] 16:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''' I put up this fact, and I think it's useful and "fun" as an anecdote, but it probably shouldn't be taken as a hard fact within the Homestar universe. Just to note a few contradictions that would arise if Strong Bad were in fact this old: (1) We probably wouldn't be able to have a VHS tape of Little Strong Sad performing stand-up comedy at school, (2) If the King of Town was already King in 1947, then The Cheat must have "mashed play on an extremely expensive jambox" before 1947, because the king was still a prince when said jambox-mashing occurred in sbemail 100, (3) A fiftysomething man goes trick-or-treating, and his mom helped him with his costume (Homestarloween Party)?  Seems a bit strange.  But anyway, I think it's worth pointing out the age factor.
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''' I'm not too sure, I mean, the email is really just looking at it as though the character of Strong Bad was used back then(since, as just a character, the age wouldn't matter. The idea for Strong Bad's character could've been around then, but then later used in modern day times, like, for example, Popeye or Mickey Mouse, for whom age isn't an important factor.), but it's presented through Strong Bad's point of view, thus implying that he would have aged since then. Sure, one could note that "Strong Bad has been around for 58 years", but saying that Strong Bad himself is over 58 years old doesn't work for me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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**'''Second.''' Makes sense to me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
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*'''Decline.''' I can't see any proof that the Castlefunnies actually "happed". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:47, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Aurora's comment rings true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''STRONG DECLINE.''' Some of you are reading way WAY too much into this. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:56, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Wow! Maybe old timey Homestar IS regular old Homestar...nah. Its a joke used for one e-mail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' Very interesting, but it should be reworded. This isn't Strong Bad's age, it's just him showing that he knows that he's an unaging cartoon character. It's a forth wall break. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 10:48, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''<s>Neutral.</s>''' Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept and rephrase''' It is interesting, but maybe it should be rephrased into the passive, saying "If it is true, Strong Bad would be 57 years old." That, or we've caught Strong Bad making things up, and there never was a Castle Funnies.[[User:Aaronite|Aaronite]] 6:32, 17 Mar 2005 (PST)
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**Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is radiculous. Definitely not fun in any way... And probably not accurate either. It's just a joke. A one-time joke. Get over it. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:00, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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***Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)
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*'''Worst prize'D, Ding''' People, we have encyclopedias, we can look things up. Just because we know things about the revolutionary war, doesn't mean that we're 200 years old. We go to school, and we learn things. So there. --64.136.27.226 18:01, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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****I'll be there! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
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**Um... you should READ the fun fact before you vote for it. Sure, just because you know about the Civil War doesn't mean you're 200 years old, but what about if you FOUGHT in it? Because the "fighting in the Civil War" metaphor paralells the fact in question, not your post.
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*****Don't let your mom catch wind of our plans, though. I ''know'' she'll just try to talk you out of it using some ol' clich&eacute;. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
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******"Well if Strong Bad jumped off a--" "Yes!" --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 02:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' ^^ That was pretty weird. Anyways, I always thought that was obvious, but I'd still accept it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
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*'''Decline'''Not because it isn't true, but because it explains the joke. Fun facts like that aren't fun. Sometimes its GOOD to let viewers figure this stuff out on their own. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**The point of inside references to explain when the joke relies on something else on the website which the viewer may not have seen. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***'''Second''' Aurora's comment. I never read the fun facts until after watching the email a coupla times, so there's no problem with a joke explanation spoiling it for me - in fact, it gives me a bonus chuckle. [[User:Eric|Eric]] 00:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** I undestand the concept behind inside references. Jeez, condescend much? But whatever, this fact is going to pass anyway so theres not much point arguing about it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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***I'm just saying, what's the point of voting on Stuff if you're against the idea of Inside References? <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 15:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*** I'm not against inside references (and even if I was, wouldn't that give me even more reason to vote on these?) its just that the joke seems pretty self explanatory. Even more so considering that Gimmicks up to Sisters is meant to be seen as a continuing story of sorts.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**** It's not self-explanatory if the viewer has not seen [[gimmicks]], which is the whole point of this fact -- to let the viewer know that this email relates to [[gimmicks]]. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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****Assumedly, most people aren't running to the Wiki before they view these cartoons. I stand by my statement: the joke is self explanatory. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*****Most people don't watch all Strong Bad emails in order. They could just have seen "sisters" and not "gimmick." <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*****Like I said: Most people aren't running to the wiki before they watch the cartoons. Meaning that the facts listed here are for people who are interested in knowing the more obscure things about the toons. This joke isn't obscure. Erego, its not worth listing because most people will get it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
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===[[Homestar Runner's Website]]===
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The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.  
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====World Wide Wed...SB reference?====
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*'''Decline.''' Need we bring up the ketchup example? Too general. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:05, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
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Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".  
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**'''Second'd!''' Hmmm, is ''anyone'' getting the picture that TBC reuse things all the time? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
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***Apparently not if the STUFF'D fact below is any indication (oh, and '''second'''). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Second''' This one IS too general... (however, the one below is not) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
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***'''Third'd'''  Holy crap!  This cartoon is the 192nd time Strong Bad's head appears. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:11, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[best thing]] ===
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*Uh, no. It may not. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS!''' Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 02:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''This sort of thing is getting really old.''' I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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****Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
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===[[boring (really)]]===
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It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]
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====102 Exclamations====
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There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).
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*'''Weak Decline.''' Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Weak Accept'''. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... {{User:phlip/sig}} 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' Meh, why not?  But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' but that rewrite doesn't sound quite right. Chaneg the period after duplicates to a comma and the that to which.
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**'''Second.''' Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
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*'''Accept.''' Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline'''  Yeah.  Its true.  However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to.  I dunno why anyone would, but... -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Weak Accept.''' 'Ey, people might be curious, and this'll save 'em the time it takes to count the words. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Comment''' Do you actually think that someone would seriously care how many words Strong Bad typed?  Hey if so I think we need to put a wordcount on all of the sbemails from now..just in caseAnd while you are at it, it might be necessary to count exacly how many frames there are in each toon.  People might be curious. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' I think it is interesting that there are exactly 100 unique words. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 21:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' Yeah, if it was any more or less i'd say declined--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
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*'''Accept''' Why not? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
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*'''Try, wet, cod, ACC, EPT''' I am way too lazy to count myself. KEEP IT! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Universal Decline''' This vote goes for this and the facts below. Since they're clearly not goofs (why remove the link if its going to be back up about two seconds later?) and because they're not interesting enough to be remarks. This is just anal cataloging, not trivia. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Accept!! >:(''' There is nothing anal about this! This is what a Fun Fact is supposed to be! I don't see anything at all wrong with this. The only anal thing here is declining this! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** They did it on purpose, its not really interesting...soooo...I declined it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Revise and Accept.''' The second half is unnecessary - just say it's the same guitar that appears in Puppet Time. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:50, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====Are these really goofs? part 1====
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**'''Comment.''' Heh, just realized that if this fact is accepted, it'll need a little more in it:
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You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.
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The guitar Space Gary tosses is the same guitar shown in Puppet Time.
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*'''Decline.''' Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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::--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:21, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Facts that are about re-used items are usually rejected outright. Puppet time or live action items shouldn't be excempted from this. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Second.''' I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Comment.''' I disagree about live-action items.  Given that there aren't that many live-action shorts, I think it's quite notable... in this particular instance. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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**'''Second.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***What, they're going to go out and get a new guitar everytime they need one? I stand by my vote, its no different than the other times they re-use stuff. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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****Again, I respectfully disagree.  It's different when you're dealing with small things like a can, or a spoon, or a bottle of ketchup - I agree that when it's reused more than once, it shouldn't be included. A guitar, on the other hand, is not a small thing, and in the context of this toon, it's a very noticeable item.  And given that this is (possibly) the first time that a live-action shot was included in a SBE-mail, I think it's notable.  I do agree that not every re-used prop deserves its own fun fact, but I do think that this one DOES deserve mentioning. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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*'''Weak Accept.''' It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*****C'mon, the guitar also shows up in the 100th e-mail along with Limozeen. Its not important enough to point out everytime it shows up. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
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******Geez, lighten up... for starters, that's in an easter egg, not the main cartoon.  And as I said before, live-action bits in an animated series are special cases.  But this bickering is meaningless - unless someone else votes, it's at a deadlock. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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**'''Comment.''' This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*******'''Decline.''' Since you said it was a deadlock... I think it's a silly fun fact. I'm sure the Brothers Chaps don't have new guitars lying around for every time they want to put one in a toon. Of course it's always the same guitar. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:40, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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***'''I'll upset ''your'' balance.''' (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=boring_%28really%29&diff=93605&oldid=93598 when I STUFF'd it], it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment.''' Quite frankly, I find the "TBC re-use items all the time!" argument to be weak.  This is a place where people look for connections between toons, and while not EVERY re-used item deserves a mention (the Wiki would be clogged with entries about ketchup bottles, old cans, and wooden spoons), there must be certain times when the reappearance of re-used items is notable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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***My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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* Right right (and I'm the one who needs to lighten up). Look, the guitar also shows up on the Limozeen poster in Haircut. Is there going to be a fun fact for that appearance as well? It doesn't matter whether the guitar shows up in an easter egg or as part of the main cartoon. Its a re-used prop, not any different than TBC re-using the animated props. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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****'''No probalo!''' If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**I think the point I'm trying to make is that in those other instances, the guitar is not an active part of the toon. The fact that in "best thing" the guitar is *tossed* from animated to live-action makes it noticeable, and therefore, notable in the fun facts. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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*'''Prepare to experience the fury of.... Accepppt... *cerkit*''' Relocate to Remarks and this would be fine; they've noted this in other places.
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** Um no, that still just makes it a PROP. And it still doesn't change the fact that its had other appearances before Best Thing. In fact, it shows up almost everytime Limozeen does so its safe to assume it'll show up again in the future. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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***"Almost?"  I think not - it doesn't show up in their picture in [[monster truck]], it doesn't show up in their [[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-cards]], or any of their other appearances besides the easter eggs in [[haircut]] or [[flashback]] (which are the guitar's ONLY other appearances besides [[Puppet Time]]). Still, there's a difference between a prop that's just for scenery and a prop that is an active part of the action - in the easter egg appearances, it's just held with no explicit reference being made to it.  This isn't the case in Puppet Time and Best Thing.  And my reasoning for the weakness of the "TBC re-use items" argument is that the average viewer won't say "Hey, the Brothers Chaps re-use that guitar cuz they can't afford to go out and get a new one each time they wanna put one in a live-action shot" - the average viewer is more likely to say "HEY! That guitar looks just like the one Homestar takes away in 'Puppet Time'."  An electric guitar is a noticeable item, other minor props like a bottle of ketchup or an old can are not - there is a diference, end of story.--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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**Theres a bit of a flaw to your reasoning there guy. The use of the guitar isn't meant to be in refererence to anything. Its not important or central to the gag at hand. They could've used the black guitar for all it mattered. It would not have changed the joke at all. As I keep saying, ITS JUST ANOTHER PROP. If someone had posted that the guitar in Puppet Time was the same one in Flashback would you have rejected that fun fact?  In fact, since you have to go out of the way to view the easter eggs its logical that pointing out the guitar's appearances in Hair cut and Flashback are more important than the one in Best thing. After all, if not everyone is going to see the easter eggs then its decidedly harder to note the use of the guitars. And thats what fun facts are for right? Pointing out stuff that people normally wouldn't notice right? So if we wouldn't point it out for the easter eggs why should we point it out here? But you go ahead and be obtuse and declare victory all you want. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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***There's a flaw in YOUR reasoning - it's more central to the gag at hand than either of the easter eggs in Haircut or Flashback, someone DID point out the guitar's appearance in Flashback, no I wouldn't have rejected it (being only the second time it's been used), and going out of the way to get the easter eggs does NOT make it more important than the reference in Best Thing - in fact, the easter eggs make them less important as they're not an integral part of the toon. And I'm not being obtuse, you're being argumentative (as usual). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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*'''Accept''' It also can be a fun fact as this particular instance(unlike the cans, ketchup, ect...) was difficult to notice. I hadnt recognised the guitar's similarity in the two toons even after watching each toon 3 times (as i do with most toons). --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:50, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' I found this fact interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:29, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====Are these really goofs? part 2====
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**'''Second''' Y'alls can argue all you want, but I think the fact is good enough to be mentioned. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:17, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
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The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.
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<div style="color:#555">''This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.''</div>
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*'''Decline.''' It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' Ooh, a variation of the fun fact I put in. I should have STUFF'd it myself instead of adding it, but anyways, I think hat since at the end there are two back buttons, which is uncommon, or possibly never happened before, it's a quality fun fact. I like it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
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**Oh, whoops. Forgot to say whether it's a goof or remark. Truly, I don't know what they mean exactly, I'm quite new to the wiki, but as long as it gets accepted, I don't care (If someone could clear up what the diference between a goof and remark is, that'd be great) --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
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***Have a look at [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts]]. As for the fact, '''Accept''' as a remark. Also, welcome to the wiki, Ju Ju. {{User:phlip/sig}} 14:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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====Cancelled after first episode====
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====Are these really goofs? part 3====
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There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
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If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.
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:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
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*'''Decline.''' Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
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*'''Accept, but not as Goof'''This is actually worth noting, kinda. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!
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*'''"SEVERE DECLINE!"''' (Changed from "Weak Accept...") --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====&#171;Insert hilarious joke here&#187;====
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*'''Decline''' While this is an interesting fact, it really doesn't have a place here, being that none of those shows have anything to do with HSR and the only connection is being cancelled after one show.  Interesting, but not relevant enough. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.
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**'''Second'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:47, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
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*'''Decline.''' It isn't relevant. Plus, the addition of the show "The Will," which was cancelled earlier this year by CBS after only airing one episode, makes six. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''STRONG ACCEPT!!''' I think it's fun and interesting. The show that you said was cancelled after the first commercial break must be reference to the strong bad e-mail "'''montage'''". At the end when the credits are rolling it says that strong bad hosted a show on Animal Planet that cancelled after the first commercial break. The strong bad show also might be a reference to a show on Animal Planet that was hosted by Collin Mochrie that cancelled quickly. --[[User:s t i n k o m a n K|s t i n k o m a n K]]
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** Fun? Interesting? Perhaps. How about RELEVANT? Sorry, fails that test. '''DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:22, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' There was also a show called "Aliens in the family" that got cancelled after one episode. There are just too many shows to list for this to be a viable fact. And a '''second''' on Jay Jay's vote. It isn't relevent anyway. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her"  the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Actually, Donny, Aliens In The Family lasted only two episodes before it was cancelled. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:45, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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* '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** The ABC affiliate where I live only showed the first episode. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
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*'''Second.''' It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
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*'''Decline'''Probably not good material for a Fun Fact.
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*'''Revise''' When originally posted, this did not limit the reference to the one song.  Strong Bad has referenced modern hip-hop on several occasions, but most people refuse to believe this for some reason.  This is totally a reference to southern rappers (such as Nelly and Chingy) and their pronounciation.  If not, why?
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====Space Gary & Facegary====
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====You said doyng again!====
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"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 <i>Facegary</i>].
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Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
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* '''Decline''' Could also just be referring to "Space" (i.e. Cartoon) Gary vs "Real" (i.e. Real) Gary. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:49, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
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*'''Accept!''' Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing&mdash;but does that make it a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Third - JZ
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*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do.  Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Delete.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:56, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''STRONG DECLINE!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I'll admit, I <i>thought</i> he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept'D''' Mmm-hmm. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept!''' - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Comment''': It wasn't ''just'' a pause. He said, "What are you... '''um'''... doing..."
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*** Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Acceptinating the Countryside.''' I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
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**Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes ''close'', but does Strong Bad ''actually'' reference "car"? No, he does not. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''You said ACCEPTED again!''' --[[User:Iml91|Iml91]] 20:14, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''DID YOU JUST SAY "ACCEPT"?''' --[[User:Poopsmith Z|Me]]
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* This fact is currently WINNING?!?! I'm really losing faith in STUFF between this and facts like "Change of Pace"... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**You know whats even worse? The people who are declining the "get out of here kid" fact are using the same logic we're using to decline this one. And theres not that big a difference between this fact and that one. A repeated (and incredibly common) phrase does not contstitute a reference. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*** Or the fact right below this, which was somewhat ironically Declined by one of this fact's Acceptors. I sometimes think that people vote on the facts they simply want to be true, regardless of whether or not they really believe them to be. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''What are you, um... Declining?''' I decline this, because there is no way TBC would put a stupid reference like that in. It was to make them talk slower, people!!! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) !!!!
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*'''Accept''' Not only do i think this is a reference, i love that joke, i quote it several times a day even "um...what are you doyng?" by the way, doing is spelled the same as doing, hm....[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
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==== Parappa the Noodle ====
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====Oops, I STUFF'd it!====
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Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".
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Homestar saying "Oops, I lost it." is probably a reference to him saying "Oops, you bwoke it." in a similar voice in the [[System Sounds|system sounds quote pack]].
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* '''Decline''' Man, a lot of severe stretches this week. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:36, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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** '''Second'''; too big a stretch to me. Then again, I've not played ''Parappa'', but this doesn't go very far as to convincing me. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:46, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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* '''Accept''' I play the game on a regular basis, and the correlation seems strong enough. Might want to change the specific PTR2 reference to a series reference, since there are three games in that series. --[[User:blackbelt|blackbelt]] 1:39, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)
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*Could be, yes. Is it? Most likely not. '''DECLINE.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:10, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite.''' Explain why it could be a reference. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:04, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**Yeah, how is it a referance? I've only played the first game. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
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'''NOTE: the following has not been put on the actual page, I wanna see if you agree.'''
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*'''Decline.''' Homestar reuses words in the English language, as we all do. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' This is an obvious reference to the '''Decline''' above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I think ''not'' sir. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*but they both have the word oops in it guys!!...lol..but yeah '''decline'''
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**You're supposed to sign your vote, you know... I'm gonna remain '''neutral''' on this one because it close but a bit too stretchy. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 14:38, 12 Jun 2005 (EST)
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*'''Decline.''' Correct to point out overwhelming similarity, but that's b/c both lines were said by Homestar, and that's the way he talks. Imagine making Fun Facts every time Strong Bad said "deleted."  [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 06:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Sometimes people just say stuff. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
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====They Might Be Giants reference?====
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====Boring sound====
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Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.
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The machine drilling sound is similar to that of the sun-buzzsaw in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
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*'''Decline.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.'''  It could be about TMBG, or a hundred other alt. rock bands where the lead singer wears glasses. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 07:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' And it's '''Flansburgh''' not "Flansborgh". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:13, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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***'''Third'd''' --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
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*'''Neutral''' I thought the same thing for a second (it makes sense) but its too vague a joke to put a specific face on it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Decline''' There are a lot of bands like that, such as Linkin Park.
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*'''Decline.''' The lead singer may wear glasses, but is the bassist a girl? --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:09, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
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*'''DECLINE TO THE MAX WITH A VENGANCE''' TMBG is made up of The Johns, the Dans, and Marty, none of them are girls...
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** Two things: 1) SIGN YOUR VOTE. 2) The part of the line in question is posted above. The part with the girls isn't there for a reason. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====Flash MX====
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*'''Decline.''' Not only are these sounds not the same pitch, they aren't even for the same tool. This is just a noise that sounds somewhat similar to another noise on the site, and just like some re-used words on the site, it is certainly ''not'' a reference whatsoever. I decline this as a possible Remark, too, because this comparison is highly irrelevant. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.
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**'''Second.''' Reusing the same sound effects, the same graphical effects (these fireworks are the same ones from that one main page), and especially the same words from the English language do not count as references. If an entire phrase or event from another toon is reused, maybe with a 25% difference at the most, then it might be a legitimate fun fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 01:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''' I don't see why making it in Flash MX would make it have MX at the end or why TBC would be compelled to have it say MX just for the fact that it was MADE in MX. And that's my ¢2. --[[User:67.177.52.133]] 17:16, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''' Ummm.... I HAVE Flash MX, and it doesn't do that, nor should that be gloated upon so furthermore, '''Decline'''. -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
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* Bah, you guys are missing an even more important point: Strong Bad makes both sound effects. Of course they sound similiar. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Decline''' Even if it were true it doesn't matter enough to have it pointed out. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Revise, accept''' As there is no proof to the usage of Flash MX, do not include that part. However, I found it interesting that this particular flash file is named diffrently from the rest. So, try:
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===[[Senorial Day]]===
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====Vera low====
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The word "vera" from when Senor Cardgage says "vera low prices" actually means "true" in Italian, "genuine" in Greek, and "side" in Spanish.
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*'''Decline''' Which might mean something if it wasn't just Senor Cardgage mispronouncing "very." I mean, "doe" is a real word (in English, no less!) but we don't have a fact explaining its meaning when Cardgage says "Doe NOT miss out!" --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:39, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't have minded seeing this under Trivia, but then again, I can see its irrelevance. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second'''. Prezactly. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Sort of Accept''' Scince his name is SENOR Cardgage, this could support the assumation that he could be from a Latin/Hispanic country.
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** It's Senor, but not Se&ntilde;or. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*If it were in Spanish, I think it would have had to be prounounced like "bera". It could also be taken as Cardgage once again using a woman's name for no good reason as Vera is an actual name. 'Nother words, this fact is just another TTOTOT canidate. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
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:Signed: [[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:57, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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===[[little animal]]===
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*'''Decline.''' Much like the "newintro" item up above, this one is not that interesting and really doesn't bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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====Used once more====
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The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
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*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun."  This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' for '''Trivia.'''  This isn't terribly interesting information, but TBC rarely reuse music, so it is notable. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==== A DV-what? ====
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===[[time capsule]]===
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From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.
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====The Life Saving Turtle====
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The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].
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*'''Decline.''' This rambles and makes no sense. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:24, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|<font color=DC143C>MK and/or BurnBox</font>]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
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*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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* '''Revise, Accept''' Rambles? Perhaps. But I understand what it's saying - the cartoon looks like it's from the 80s, but Larry's comment at the end makes it seem more modern. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:19, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' Good eyes. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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***'''Second t3h second'''--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline'''  I thought that was the joke. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:01, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite''' "Although elements of the Limozeen in Space cartoon such as the animation style and mention of the popularity of hair metal bands seem to suggest that it would have been aired in the '80s, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 19:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' I like this rewrite. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:28, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Alternate Rewrite''' Just to make it a bit shorter: "Although Limozeen in Space seems like an 80's cartoon, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997."
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*'''Decline''' While in many ways it seems like an early 80s cartoon, the alternative band reference also places it in the 90s, at least. Strong Bad seems to have an affinity for woefully outdated things (Rhino Feeder is his idea of a modern video game...)
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** '''Second''' Changed my vote. I keep thinking that this fact should work but I dunno. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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* '''Rewrite, Accept''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:31, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
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===[[Main Page 22]]===
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The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
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====ALL WRONG.......====
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*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.  
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*'''Revise'''  a bit too wordy...  perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with.  Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== The Claw ====
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'''VERDICT:''' The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 22]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.
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*'''Accept''' I didn't know that. Good fact, I think.--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:21, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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'''CONTEST:''' I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective [[Talk:Main Page 22#Contest|talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Severe Decline.''' What? Do you mean that the claw is SIMILAR? Because the Kick the Cheat Demo isn't in an "animation" style, it's in the regular style. The claw is definitely not the same one. (And even if it were, TBC reuse flash items all the time) &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''"STRONG ACCEPT!"''' Good eye, good eye! --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' It does look the same but I don't think its worth noting. Like Evin said, TBC re-use stuff all the time.  [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
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===[[HomestarRunner.com: PAY PLUS!|HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
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====Unaired Episodes!====
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"teenage girl show!
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Revamped for the 90's.
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More humor! Finer dining!
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See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"
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With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
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I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
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*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
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:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
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*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense.  I think it's a good find.  And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
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*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
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::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
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**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
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:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)
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*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
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****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
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*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
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*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
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<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
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well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
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was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
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including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
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I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Revise''' Condense this somehow.  Like 'With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble any number of cliche cartoon villains like Trap Jaw (from He-Man), Dr. Claw (from Inspector Gadget)' etc.. etc. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:32, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' Get rid of the word "designed" in the rewrite, and it's good to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:12, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
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*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection.  The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''
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*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
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*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
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*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
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**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
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**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke.  [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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***'''Second (the decline).''' If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s!  See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection.  It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
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*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
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*'''Decline.''' This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.'''  Provided the similarities mentioned are true.... 1. TBC watch anime (i.e., Japanese cartoon & Stinko Man); 2. TBC have previously made explicit reference to Sailor Moon (Mainpage 17); and 3. both Teen Girl Squad and Sailor Moon have four original main characters that are teeny-bopper girls.  I don't watch or like the series but I see the similarity.  -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==== See you in syndication ====
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=== [[The Luau]] ===
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==== Unexpected guests? ====
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Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.
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In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
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*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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***'''Comment...''' But why would he call the girls "crap-for-brains"? -[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 20:46, 16 Jun 2005
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*'''Decline'''  It's pretty standard industry practice to show a cancelled show in syndication, even the wildly unsuccessful ones, since it makes the studio money.  The recent phenomena of releasing <i>everything</i> in DVD format is just an extension of this.  At any rate, this is way too obvious for a 'fun' fact, and we don't really need a thousand edits of this once everyone has added their own favorite, unjustly canceled show. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:44, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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===[[unused emails]]===
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**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:05, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
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====CDs====
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*'''Decline''' It actually happened the opposite way with ''Clerks'': It was realeased on DVD then syndication. The joke is fairly obvious anyway and doesn't need a fun fact to explain it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.
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==== The Beatles ====
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*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).
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*'''possible rewrite'''I get what this one is saying. Strong Bad's computer is clearly too old to have a CD drive and therefore wouldn't be able to burn CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Decline''' The Beatles are not an alternative band, they were not responsible for destroying metal, and the bassist is not actually a girl, so I don't see why this would be a reference to the Beatles rather than a stereotypical alternative band. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:56, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite.''' This would work as a Remark or an "oops!" in that the Compy can't write CD'sNo evidence yet that the Tangerine Dream can burn CD's, so that should be left out. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second''' This one should have simply been deleted, for the reasons stated above. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' Hmmm... I can't figure out if this is a serious comment, or just a joke about how many other Beatles references are on the page for this oneAt any rate, definitely not relevant. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 08:50, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
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===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===
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Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).
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*'''Decline''' I really don't see why. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:59, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' They are similar events, but there's no connection between them. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:05, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Revise/Move''' It's a re-used joke, sure... but a clear reference?  Seems a bit of a stretch.  Maybe it would be better to toss up a new page about the instances of this and linking to it on the [[Inside Jokes]] page (where it seems like it would most belong).  --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Decline''' It's simply a re-used joke or a running gag, not a clear reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:21, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Background Goof ====
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====Different Colors====
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The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.
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*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
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**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====Tiny eye difference====
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*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
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*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that.  This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 &mdash; they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Accept as rewritten.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Babylon 5 ====
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====Liekand's magic pockets====
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Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.
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"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].'''  (only the part in bold is in question)
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*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept:''' Baby<u>lon 5</u> is similar enough to Groupu<u>lon 5</u>, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
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**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
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*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
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== Recently closed items ==
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==== Marshie's Initial ====
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=== [[rock opera]] ===
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====Angled?====
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The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline'''
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**'''Second.''' But sign your vote &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:33, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' That's great kid. You want a cookie everytime you point out the obvious?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
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**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 16:00, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
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***'''Third, fourth...'''I think you get the drift. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:58, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*Shouldn't it just be "His initial is 'M'"? We don't know that he's got any others. Also, fun fact already noted in the [[Cheat Commandos...O's]] Fun Facts. So '''Decline'''. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]]
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*'''Decline''' As it is, this item is mind-numbingly obvious - but even if you're referring to the easter egg in the Cheat Commandos...O's toon, it's also already noted on that page as well.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline'''. It's major obvious that his first initial is "M", because his first name is Marshie. He doesn't have "Sergant"
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his name. DO THE MATH! --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:13, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[colonization]] ===
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====Error?====
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==== Until next week... ====
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On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.
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This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius.  [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[stunt double]] ===
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===[[guitar]]===
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====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
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Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
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==== Big wusses and lesser wimps ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:guitar]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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If it is true, that "Only big wusses and lesser wimps use stunt doubles.", then Strong bad is a big wuss and a lesser wimp, because it is obvious that Strong Sad is the stunt double. This is quite contrary to most of his comments across the site. Such as, on the "First time here?" page, he says, and I quote, "Check me out, no, seriously check me out."
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=== [[kind of cool]] ===
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====Homestar's Singing====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously Declined after two weeks of voting. Moved to [[Talk:stunt double]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:35, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
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=== [[dragon]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:kind of cool]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
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===[[privileges]]===
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The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
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====Fretmagic Kids!====
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*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
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"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.
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**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[rock opera]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:privileges]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
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===[[flashback]]===
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"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
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====Emails====
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*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
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How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
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**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
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*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Sender's parents ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:flashback]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
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* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
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===[[pom pom]]===
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When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
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====hidden frame====
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* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself.  Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
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For those of us using a seek bar there is a broken frame between the two easter eggs; a single frame of a black object that doesn't appear anywhere in the email itself.
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*'''Decline'''  Too much of a stretch, IMO.  --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, Flash artifacts are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see [[Talk:pom pom]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
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*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Order? ====
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===[[part-time job]]===
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Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.
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====The Answering Room====
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Judging from what's in it, the room that Strong Bad was in was probably a kitchen.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, things noted in the transcript are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see [[Talk:part-time job]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Another brick in the wall ====
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===[[boring (really)]]===
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====Definitely not the hat, though====
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One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.
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At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:boring (really)]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
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===[[old comics]]===
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**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
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====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
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***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
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"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.
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**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
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=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:old comics]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.
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=== [[secret recipes]] ===
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'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''
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====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====
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*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".
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*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'd''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
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** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon,  ''' '' PLEASE  '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
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***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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=== [[Everybody Knows It]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Like Strong Bad's "mask", Homestar's "shoes" are really his feet. So technically, he doesn't wear shoes.
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===[[cheatday]]===
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====Get outta here kid?====
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Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Everybody Knows It]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:49, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheatday]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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===[[time capsule]]===
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===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===
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The gross old wig is probably the wig Homestar wore as part of his Kurt Cobain costume in Homestarloween Party.
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[Talk:time capsule]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:52, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
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The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
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===[[secret recipes]]===
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
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===[[Senorial Day]]===
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Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
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====Old Gron Sad voice?====
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*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
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Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
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*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
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**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
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*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
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**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.
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====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
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The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
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*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The dicussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
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** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
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***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
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****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
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*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
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******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====Strong Bad's Poopaw====
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====Lurking around====
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Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
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The reference to Strong Bad's poopaw is one of the first four times, after "Homestarloween Party", "The Facts", and "Pizzaz", that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any other relatives besides Strong Sad. The number of times that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any relatives at all, has got to be at least twenty.
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined.  Moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====Senor Shrub====
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The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].
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===[[crazy cartoon]]===
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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====Eh! Steve====
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====Se&ntilde;or Senior, Sr.====
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Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Se&ntilde;or" for "Senor.")
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Eh! Steve returns in e-mail 84, [[kids' book ]].
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined.  Moved to [[Talk:crazy cartoon]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:57, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====Oh, what a feeling====
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The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
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===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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On Bubs' Concession Stand, the lights look and behave like the the lights from the [[Astro Lite]] Game.
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===[[time capsule]]===
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====Eyes====
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Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item is already noted in the transcript and is unanimously Declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:58, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== The Brethren ====
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====Isle of Pom?====
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This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.
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The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.
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*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all.  If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon.  This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[no loafing]] ===
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===[[long pants]]===
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====No "la dee la dee la"?====
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Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Old New Intro|Intro]].
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==== Car? Not no more. ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was narrowly accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Strong Bad says "his cool, cool car" in the beginning, but later says he has no car in the e-mail car.
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:no loafing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:27, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====Edga Jr. removes text?====
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Strong Bad opens up [[Edgar#Edga Jr.|Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.
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=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with slight modifications. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Coincedincem ====
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===[[monster truck]]===
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====Get Back Loretta!====
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The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."
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According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the  can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
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=== [[The Luau]] ===
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
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==== Reference? ====
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***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
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****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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***'''Fifth'D!''*** It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!
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=== [[other days]] ===
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In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".
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==== Tappity Tappity ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.
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=== [[anything]] ===
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* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
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====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====
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*'''Decline.'''  Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
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*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
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**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
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**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
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*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
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**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
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=== [[radio]] ===
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"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
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====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting.  It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
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=== [[do over]] ===
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====Location====
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====Tandy 400 Goofs====
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Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
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When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
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*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
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*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
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*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K".  [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
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*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge.  However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
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*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
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*'''Accept''' I never knew that.  I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
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*'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
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**'''Accept now''' Thank's tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
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** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
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====WSBD in Ohio====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.
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====Totally not gettin' old?====
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"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.
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*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format.  Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)  A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters.  It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
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===[[origins]]===
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====George W. Stnank====
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Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
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====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted.  It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====Stnank or Not?====
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====Cut the Crusts====
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Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
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In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."
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'''VERDICT:''' After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
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====A Type of Bad Grammar====
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This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.
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====Se&ntilde;or & Mr.Bland====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Se&ntilde;or & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.
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====Grammatically Incorrect====
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*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
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Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes.  "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right".  Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
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===[[funny]]===
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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====Awesome Sauce====
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===[[cheat talk]]===
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Is "Awesome Sauce" a reference to "[[Awexome Cross]]"?
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined.  Moved to [[Talk:funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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===To "T" or not to "T"===
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====409====
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At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.
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409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' After a month of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheat talk]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
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===[[Stinkomanual]]===
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====Poopsmith====
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The Poopsmith never blinks.
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*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
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**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
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====Wall Markings====
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====Saargtsson Ltd.====
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According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.
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*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company. ''(revised)''
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
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*'''accept.''' Good fact... &rarr;[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
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*'''Accept.''' I never noticed.  Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
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*'''Rewrite and move.'''  Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall.  Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
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**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Stinkomanual]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
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*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
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*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
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*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
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**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
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***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
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**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
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*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
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===[[labor day]]===
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====Truk====
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====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====
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In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk."  Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples.  Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
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*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R.  It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
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====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
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In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.  
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'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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====Guitar -> Shark====
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===[[Bug In Mouth Disease]]===
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The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)?  Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"?  Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?
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====Music by TMBG?====
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The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:06, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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====Fender Guitars====
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====555-What?====
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During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.
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*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
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The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)
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*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts.  Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
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* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This item, with modifications, was accepted as an explanation. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.  
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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===[[comic]]===
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====CORRECTIONED====
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the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
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'''VERDICT.''' Part of the above info was accepted in a modified form. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:comic]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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====You Big Mouth!====
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===[[garage sale]]===
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This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined.  Moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:12, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====
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====Math again====
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Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.  
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"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:12, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Soulbait ====
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===[[theme park]]===
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The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:12, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
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'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003).  In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show).  While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].
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==== CGNU ====
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'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
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The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:12, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' Both of these were accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
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===[[couch patch]]===
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==== Paper Doll Style ====
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This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.
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====Computer miscommunications====
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At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was narrowly declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:couch patch]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Back Buttons ====
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===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
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====A legendary voice, you screech?====
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*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason.  Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
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The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.  
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=== [[island]] ===
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'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
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==== Forward referencing # 1 ====
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Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]].  This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].
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===[[Under Construction]]===
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====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
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1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji". The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
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*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Under Construction]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
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*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
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*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
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===[[rampage]]===
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The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].
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====rampage easter egg====
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At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
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*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Second that.
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**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
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**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
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**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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=== [[2 years]] ===
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===[[Main Page 6]]===
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====Outta Sync?====
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Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.
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==== Mormon Missionary ====
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'''CLOSED.''' The consensus of this discussion has been used to revise the article. The discussion itself has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 6]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --24.21.86.243 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke.  Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
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***Don't suppose this matters much now, since it's verified that he <EM>was</EM> a Mormon missionary, but for the record no, it's not common at all.  I'm a Mormon, and I've served a mission myself, and I've <EM>never</EM> seen "Elder" abbreviated like that (before).  But apparently there's always a first time... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 02:19, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
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****In fact, actually, the more I think about this the less sense it makes.  Not only is "Elder" in my experience never abbreviated to "E.", but it wouldn't make sense for him to be referring to himself as "Elder Fullmer" in the first place.  If he's sending an e-mail saying he's <EM>going</EM> to be gone for two years and unable to access the web, that means he hasn't started his mission yet, and he wouldn't be calling himself "Elder Fullmer" yet.  Okay, I understand someone says this guy is a friend of his coworker and he was indeed a soon-to-be Mormon missionary, fine, but...did his first name, by any chance, start with E?  Because that would still make a lot more sense than the "E." standing for Elder when Elder isn't abbreviated that way and he wouldn't be calling himself Elder yet anyway.    In fact, the personal testimonial notwithstanding, this rings false for me on enough levels I'm going to have to vote '''Decline''' on this one unless some more direct evidence arises. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:07, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''.  Because it's true!  And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder.  I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke.  --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept'''.  Click on the link above - this is a verified fact.  [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Revise''' I think this should be reworded, because it has been verified. Something like "E. Fullmer is a Mormon missionary, which explains why he will be absent for the next two years," or something. [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
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**'''Decline the above revise, accept the original'''  The original is a plausible enough explanation, whether it's true or not (and a lot of <i>fun facts</i> are based on more sketchy information).  However, I would decline the above revise because someone posting on a message board about 'the best friend of my coworker' is <i>not</i> the same as verification.  I should know...  my brother's boss's former roommate was the guy whose stomach exploded because he mixed Pop Rocks and Coke. --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
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==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
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Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.
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''(rewrite)''
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According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted after being rewritten. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
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===[[origins]]===
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** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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====Cut the Crusts====
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*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
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In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."
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*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
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===A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS===
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The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics.  It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within.  It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked.  Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...
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*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
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====Who's that Drummond? Redux==== 
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"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.
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==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
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'''VERDICT:''' The second time around, this item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is  about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...
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*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
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*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
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*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
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*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
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=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.
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*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock.  Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
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*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
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*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
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*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
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**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
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*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
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**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally.  This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste.  These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact.  --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
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**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
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*'''Accept'''  Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable.  And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
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**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
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*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.
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==== Charlie Brown ====
==== Charlie Brown ====
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The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.  
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.  
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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'''CLOSED:''' This information is correct, but the consensus is to note it on [[Homestar's House]], which it already is. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring?  This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley.  It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
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***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference.  And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
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****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
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==== Beat It ====
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Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest.  --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video."  Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
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** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
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I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard.  After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way.  --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
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==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
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[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.
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* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
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**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
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**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
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*'''Accept'''  This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
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==== Coach Z's Phone ====
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Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].
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*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
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*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement.  Do not say "similar" or "reference"!
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==== It's odd considering... ====
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It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.
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*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
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**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
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**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd.  Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes.  Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important?  Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
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*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
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*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
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**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
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*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
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**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left?  He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon.  It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it.  Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
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*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
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Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
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*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
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*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen.  We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations.  In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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==== "state trooper" ====
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Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas.  The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)
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(Correction:  I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)
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''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM
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*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]]  Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
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**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
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*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*<b> Decline </b> Janik
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==== A running gag? ====
==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)
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* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here.  I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted and ''moved''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Runner]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
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* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
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* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
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**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
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* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
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* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!?  --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[animal]] ===
=== [[animal]] ===
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====Sterrance====
 
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
 
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==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
 
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The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8]. --[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
 
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote.  The discussion for this item is moved to the [[Talk:Lappy 486]] page --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
 
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin.  It appears in its rewritten form on the page for [[animal]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
 
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==== Just me being picky ====
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing.  See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Weird laptop ====
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==== Fanglyfish ====
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After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)
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The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Off-screen typing ====
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*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time.  I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago.  I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
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***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
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*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
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<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
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Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
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on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
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:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about.  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
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==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
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*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
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*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', <u>'''''unless'''''</u> you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
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**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from.  Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[virus]] ===
=== [[virus]] ===
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==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
 
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
 
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==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu (DECLINED)====
 
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the item was Declined.  Moved to [[Talk:Compy 386]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:44, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)
 
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==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
 
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The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".
 
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'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes.  This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
 
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==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
 
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Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.
 
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)
 
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==== Gilligan's Island? ====
 
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The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.
 
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'''VERDICT:''' This item had no clear consenus, but with 4 strong Declines and 3 strong Accepts and a single Weak Accept, the Declines have it.  Moved to [[Talk:virus]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:36, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
 
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==== Strong Sad's blog ====
 
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When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.
 
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'''VERDICT:''' This item received only 2 votes, both for Decline, as the information was both already noted and otherwise obvious.  Moved to [[Talk:virus]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:36, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
 
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==== The Number 423,827 ====
 
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I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of e-mails recieved to date by the site, however I do not know how to confirm that.
 
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'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
 
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* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
 
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** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
 
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*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
 
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==== Drive letter ====
==== Drive letter ====
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After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.
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After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
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====The Compy's Reign====
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This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
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====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.
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*'''Neutral.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
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*'''Very Weak Decline'''  Dunno what to make of this one, really...  It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air.  Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts.  Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this.  It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots.  --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Price Style ====
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Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously Declined after several weeks of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Reynold's Wrap ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item has no bearing on anything regarding the 'toon in question.  The item is Declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:38, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
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Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item.  The modified form of this item appears on the [[Shopping for Danger]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
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'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
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The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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==== Let's Rock and Roll! ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously Declined after several weeks of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===
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==== The Haiku Triad Rule ====
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The Haiku made up by Strong Bad (which includes the line "Little Brother Dork Dork Dork") is technically not a Haiku due to the little known Haiku Triad Rule, which says that the same syllable cannot be used three times in a row in a Haiku poem.  Needless to say I know quite a bit about Haikus.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined.  Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:16, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
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Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===
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==== Large Blank Space (DECLINED) ====
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If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.
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'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===
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==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====
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In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== [[anything]] ===
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==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
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The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.
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'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Declined.  The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]], but a subtler mention of the name change-around appears on the [[Strong Bad Email By Name]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:23, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===
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==== The Only Time? ====
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This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
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'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, no consensus was reached, with no votes for Accepting or Declining the item whatsoever.  The discussion was moved over to [[Talk:Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:18, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[montage]] ===
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==== hellboy ====
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"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined.  Moved to [[Talk:montage]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== scoreboard ====
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The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined.  Moved to [[Talk:montage]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== ketchup ====
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The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined.  Moved to [[Talk:montage]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==== Pants ====
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Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate.  A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the [[montage]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[pizzaz]] ===
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==== Biscuit Dough Relations (DECLINED) ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:07, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
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==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised) ====
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Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]", created by [[Bubs]] drawing [[The King of Town|the King of Town's]] description of Strong Bad.  So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.
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'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the [[pizzaz]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[credit card]] ===
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==== At Homestarrunner dot net ====
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This email implies that Homestar Runner has an email address, which we have no reason to believe because he is always using Strong Bad's computer.
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item is Declined.  Moved to [[Talk:credit card]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== car ===
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==== "You ever see me in a car?  No!" ====
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*'''Revise, Move''' I think this belongs more in the Dangeresque 3 email fun facts. Also, get rid of the "Another subtle fun fact" bit. - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
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*'''Decline.''' I'd actually put the Gremlin more into Bubs' possesion. He came up with it, so it just seems to work along those lines.
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*'''Decline.''' As with the 'bigger wusses and lesser wimps' item up above, since when does Strong Bad always tell the truth?  See [[stand-up]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Comment.''' He could have also changed his mind about being seen in a car.  Since this really doesn't contradict anything, it's not really worth noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:38, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline'''. Previously someone else said "Strong Bad tends to lie" or something like that. I've thought of that fact before....also the Gremin might not be his.  Allow me to reason:
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<pre>
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stunt double had Dangereque 2
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dangeresque 3 had Dangereque 1, with which car.
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car had the "You ever see me in a car?  No!" quote.
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dangereque 3(1)
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Dangereque 2, before "car".
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This is too confusing, but I hope it gives you a better understanding of it.
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</pre>
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--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:55, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[lackey]]===
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==== Unemployed? ====
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*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated.  Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises.  Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot.  In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
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The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]].  In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.
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*'''Rewrite'''- Too long and confusing --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:48, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' ...though I almost voted Decline.  The reference is a decent one.  Perhaps something as simple as:
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==Games==
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===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===
===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===
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The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the  Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
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*'''Decline'''.  This has got to be a joke.  Poor control scheme?  Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons.  Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right.  Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad.  I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it.  -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
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====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
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*'''Decline'''.  The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games.  Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
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This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.'''  I suppose that's interesting.  --67.161.224.65
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*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
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'''CLOSED.''' This item is now closed because it is obsolete. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted.  Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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Current revision as of 01:19, 4 November 2022

This page is preserved here as an archive. The votes are not active. Please see HRWiki:STUFF for active votes.

The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Check out The Archives and the over STUFF'd page for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
  • Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

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[edit] Voting

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[edit] To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

[edit] STUFF'd Facts

[edit] mile

[edit] Fourth Wall Break?

Strong Bad made a Fourth Wall Break when he said that he wasn't going to answer an email that week.

OR

The Cheat made a Fourth Wall Break by making a Strong Bad Email complete with a loading screen and The Paper.

  • I decided to STUFF my own fact after it was deleted (the top one) because I think it could be something of a fourth wall break. On the Talk page, It's dot com said that if that isn't a break, perhaps the Cheat-powered email was, because it not only included just an email, but a loading screen and The Paper, which would not necessarily be needed there. Any revisions/rewrites would be helpful, as I usually can't word these well. I also realize that Strong Bad addressing the viewer isn't normally accepted, but I think the fact that he refused to answer an email from the audience has to be something. So I am going to accept this fact, although I suppose my vote is a bit biased in this case. --SBEmail22 11:03, 16 Jun 2005
  • Accept I'm gonna have to Accept this fact. --Lappy 486 15:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment Probably my last chance for a personal comment on STUFF. Ahem. I want SO badly to vote on this, but I have a different view than almost everyone else on the Wiki concerning Fourth Wall Breaks. So I'll just comment: every single Strong Bad Email implies by its very nature that Strong Bad knows he's being watched (well, okay, in anything it's Homestar) so the first one is tremendously redundant. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 16:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Really, they break the fourth wall so often that its not really worth noting. Donny vs Universe
  • COMMENT. Okay, so that may not be in everyone's best favor. What about the second one? --SBEmail22 14:11, 16 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Not neccesary. Strong Bad speaks to the camera and says that hes "not doing one this week". The entire e-mail is a fourth wall break (more so than normal) so its not neccesary to pick apart specific parts of it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] The House That Gave Sucky Treats

[edit] Is Your Refrigerator Perry Running?

Strong Mad's greeting, "IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING" is obviously a reference to his attempted prank call in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0

  • Decline. I think they're both obvious references to the old prank call, but not to each other... Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 17:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline as written. But see revision below. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

REVISE TO: Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0.

  • Accept the revision. --Upset_Your_Balance 01:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I mean, he must really think that joke is funny. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. -- Tony Stony 19:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Please, please, please tell me that the reformed STUFF process will not allow mid-stream changes like this to take place. Sometimes you can hardly tell what is being voted on! -- tomstiff 14:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • This is similar to the new format. Everything below the words "revise to" above is separate from the original fact. Notice that I declined the original and accepted the revision. The new format, which we hope to have ready in the next couple of days, will be more clear. — It's dot com 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess. -- ironcladlou
  • Accept but revise I'd revise it to " Strong Mad's greeting, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING", is almost the same as his greeting in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.
    • Sorcorndorned! (seconded) Cheatachu72 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Still Decline For the reason stated by Aurora. And once again, the revision is almost exactly like the fact originally submitted. Donny vs Universe
    • The difference is subtle, but the original fact states that one refers to the other, whereas the revision merely states that he tries the same joke again, like a running gag. — It's dot com 00:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I got that. Theres still not that big a difference between the two different wordings. Donny vs Universe
    • Second. -- tomstiff 14:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. -Svelt
  • Accept. Much better. --BazookaJoe 17:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] dangeresque 3

[edit] So holdable a gun

The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on this Thoraxcorp.com page.

  • Neutral Not really sure I care. Donny vs Universes
  • Accept I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would. Its a true fun fact. -- Tony Stony 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. It's worth noting. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --SBEmail22 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Second. Good fun fact. Cute refrence. --MrsCommanderson 16:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Yeah, I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
  • Accept. --BazookaJoe 18:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] People's Court

As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The theme From The People's Court".

  • Duh-duh Decline! I don't think so. And don't sign your new facts; sign your votes. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. --BazookaJoe 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • You've have got a looooooad of nerve telling me not to edit other people. The only reason I'm on this useless STUFF page is because other people, including you, wouldn't leave my post alone.
      • Okay, drop the flaming. On article pages, people are perfectly entitled to remove facts that they don't like, within reason. It is NEVER acceptable to alter someone's comments on a talk page (this isn't TECHNICALLY a talk page but the same rules apply) for any reason, short of removing an entire discussion for space reasons or because it has been obsoleted. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 23:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept If you just listen to the intro you won't get it. But if you listen at 0:35 and 3:34 it is plain that it is the same theme. It is not the same recording but the same music. Everyone I've shown it to agreed and was grateful that I figured out where they'd heard it before. --FM 21:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • That wasn't meant as an insult, I was attempting (though perhaps failing) to imitate the Dangeresque theme in my Decline. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 22:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I listened to it at those times, and while it is very similar, I must say that it is highly unlikely that TBC used the exact theme. That would leave them open to copyright infringement, which would be bad. I do think it sounds like it could be the inspiration, but it is in no way the same song --Some HSR themed username 21:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I got news for you Johnnie Cockran, censoring the info on this page will not protect TBC from copyright infringement. What protects them is that what they do is parody. How do you think they get away with all the Decemberween costumes? They use bits of other peoples work all the time. The best way for them to get in trouble is to NOT admit that it the People's Court and claim it as original. Just ask George Harrison, Ray Parker Jr. and Vanilla Ice.
      • Actually, I'd say it's better to give someone else credit for their work than to use their work and claim it as your own. --No Smorking 03:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I just listened (ugh, Real Player) and it's certainly not exactly the same song. Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Not the same song, no matter how much FM wants it to be. As for copyright info, parody is protected under the fair use law so long as you don't make money off it. TBC have had issues with people stealing thier work before so I doubt they'd be so quick to do it to others. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Experimental Film

[edit] The Water

The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a similar image can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.

  • Decline I think its just a coincidence. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! Donny vs Universes
  • Oh, well I'll just get out my thesaurus! --VolatileChemical 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Decline with a comment. So wait, VolatileChemical, is that a decline? Or is that just a comment? --SBEmail22 13:20, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Second both the vote and the question. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 19:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • It was just a sarcastic comment. No, it wasn't a decline in any way. Are the submitters even aloud to vote? --VolatileChemical 02:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • If they're not allowed to vote, then I break the rules left and right - I almost always vote on a fact right as I submit it. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 01:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I think it's a good idea for a submitter to vote and explain his/her vote, so other users can see why it was stuffed in the first place. And decline to this ridiculous fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • I usually just delete silly facts like this one. When I do STUFF, I most certainly vote! -- tomstiff 14:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • Second to all these subcomments. — It's dot com 18:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 17:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Donnie Declineo Sorry. Cheatachu72 03:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • My mouth tastes like... Decline. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] sisters

[edit] Love/Hate Relationship

"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in gimmicks.

  • Accept This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. Aurora the Homestar Coder 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Makes sense to me. --SBEmail22 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Second. Aurora's comment rings true. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second.It's dot com 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --BazookaJoe 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Neutral. Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... Accept. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)
        • I'll be there! --Upset_Your_Balance
          • Don't let your mom catch wind of our plans, though. I know she'll just try to talk you out of it using some ol' cliché. — It's dot com
  • Accept ^^ That was pretty weird. Anyways, I always thought that was obvious, but I'd still accept it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
  • DeclineNot because it isn't true, but because it explains the joke. Fun facts like that aren't fun. Sometimes its GOOD to let viewers figure this stuff out on their own. Donny vs Universe
    • The point of inside references to explain when the joke relies on something else on the website which the viewer may not have seen. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Second Aurora's comment. I never read the fun facts until after watching the email a coupla times, so there's no problem with a joke explanation spoiling it for me - in fact, it gives me a bonus chuckle. Eric 00:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I undestand the concept behind inside references. Jeez, condescend much? But whatever, this fact is going to pass anyway so theres not much point arguing about it. Donny vs Universe
      • I'm just saying, what's the point of voting on Stuff if you're against the idea of Inside References? Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I'm not against inside references (and even if I was, wouldn't that give me even more reason to vote on these?) its just that the joke seems pretty self explanatory. Even more so considering that Gimmicks up to Sisters is meant to be seen as a continuing story of sorts.Donny vs Universe
        • It's not self-explanatory if the viewer has not seen gimmicks, which is the whole point of this fact -- to let the viewer know that this email relates to gimmicks. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Assumedly, most people aren't running to the Wiki before they view these cartoons. I stand by my statement: the joke is self explanatory. Donny vs Universe
          • Most people don't watch all Strong Bad emails in order. They could just have seen "sisters" and not "gimmick." Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • Like I said: Most people aren't running to the wiki before they watch the cartoons. Meaning that the facts listed here are for people who are interested in knowing the more obscure things about the toons. This joke isn't obscure. Erego, its not worth listing because most people will get it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Homestar Runner's Website

[edit] World Wide Wed...SB reference?

Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".

  • Uh, no. It may not. Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • ...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS! Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! Cheatachu72 02:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • This sort of thing is getting really old. I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- tomstiff 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • It's dot com was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. — It's dot com 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] boring (really)

[edit] 102 Exclamations

There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).

  • Weak Decline. Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? — It's dot com 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... phlip TC 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Meh, why not? But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --BazookaJoe 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second but that rewrite doesn't sound quite right. Chaneg the period after duplicates to a comma and the that to which.
    • Second. Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --SBEmail22 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
  • Accept. Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- tomstiff 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Yeah. Its true. However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to. I dunno why anyone would, but... -- Tony Stony 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. 'Ey, people might be curious, and this'll save 'em the time it takes to count the words. --Upset_Your_Balance 16:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment Do you actually think that someone would seriously care how many words Strong Bad typed? Hey if so I think we need to put a wordcount on all of the sbemails from now..just in case. And while you are at it, it might be necessary to count exacly how many frames there are in each toon. People might be curious. -- Tony Stony 02:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I think it is interesting that there are exactly 100 unique words. --Hamrodrunner 21:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Why not? --AnarchyBalsac
  • Try, wet, cod, ACC, EPT I am way too lazy to count myself. KEEP IT! Cheatachu72 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Universal Decline This vote goes for this and the facts below. Since they're clearly not goofs (why remove the link if its going to be back up about two seconds later?) and because they're not interesting enough to be remarks. This is just anal cataloging, not trivia. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept!! >:( There is nothing anal about this! This is what a Fun Fact is supposed to be! I don't see anything at all wrong with this. The only anal thing here is declining this! -- Lappy 486 23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • They did it on purpose, its not really interesting...soooo...I declined it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 1

You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.

  • Decline. Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Relocate? I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --SBEmail22 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Comment. This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --Upset_Your_Balance 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I'll upset your balance. (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but when I STUFF'd it, it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. — It's dot com 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • No probalo! If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Prepare to experience the fury of.... Accepppt... *cerkit* Relocate to Remarks and this would be fine; they've noted this in other places.

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 2

The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.

This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.
  • Decline. It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — It's dot com 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- Tony Stony 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Ooh, a variation of the fun fact I put in. I should have STUFF'd it myself instead of adding it, but anyways, I think hat since at the end there are two back buttons, which is uncommon, or possibly never happened before, it's a quality fun fact. I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
    • Oh, whoops. Forgot to say whether it's a goof or remark. Truly, I don't know what they mean exactly, I'm quite new to the wiki, but as long as it gets accepted, I don't care (If someone could clear up what the diference between a goof and remark is, that'd be great) --Ju Ju Master

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 3

If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.

  • Decline. Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept, but not as GoofThis is actually worth noting, kinda. -- Lappy 486 23:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] «Insert hilarious joke here»

The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

  • Decline The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --Eytanz 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline! Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --Upset_Your_Balance 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
  • Second. It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --SBEmail22 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
  • DeclineProbably not good material for a Fun Fact.
  • Revise When originally posted, this did not limit the reference to the one song. Strong Bad has referenced modern hip-hop on several occasions, but most people refuse to believe this for some reason. This is totally a reference to southern rappers (such as Nelly and Chingy) and their pronounciation. If not, why?

[edit] You said doyng again!

Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in car.

  • Accept! Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--MrsCommanderson 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --BazookaJoe 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- tomstiff 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — It's dot com 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to The House That Gave Sucky Treats, when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept -- Tony Stony 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --Upset_Your_Balance 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept'D Mmm-hmm. Cheatachu72 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- Cyrius 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept! - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- Super Sam 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment: It wasn't just a pause. He said, "What are you... um... doing..."
      • Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. GG Crono 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --Big Dog 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Acceptinating the Countryside. I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
    • Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes close, but does Strong Bad actually reference "car"? No, he does not. — It's dot com 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • You said ACCEPTED again! --Iml91 20:14, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • DID YOU JUST SAY "ACCEPT"? --Me
  • This fact is currently WINNING?!?! I'm really losing faith in STUFF between this and facts like "Change of Pace"... --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 19:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • You know whats even worse? The people who are declining the "get out of here kid" fact are using the same logic we're using to decline this one. And theres not that big a difference between this fact and that one. A repeated (and incredibly common) phrase does not contstitute a reference. Donny vs Universe
      • Or the fact right below this, which was somewhat ironically Declined by one of this fact's Acceptors. I sometimes think that people vote on the facts they simply want to be true, regardless of whether or not they really believe them to be. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 06:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • What are you, um... Declining? I decline this, because there is no way TBC would put a stupid reference like that in. It was to make them talk slower, people!!! --Lappy 486 23:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) !!!!
  • Accept Not only do i think this is a reference, i love that joke, i quote it several times a day even "um...what are you doyng?" by the way, doing is spelled the same as doing, hm....Because, It's Midnite

[edit] Oops, I STUFF'd it!

Homestar saying "Oops, I lost it." is probably a reference to him saying "Oops, you bwoke it." in a similar voice in the system sounds quote pack.

  • Decline. Homestar reuses words in the English language, as we all do. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. This is an obvious reference to the Decline above. -- tomstiff 03:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I think not sir. -- Tony Stony 14:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • but they both have the word oops in it guys!!...lol..but yeah decline
    • You're supposed to sign your vote, you know... I'm gonna remain neutral on this one because it close but a bit too stretchy. --SBEmail22 14:38, 12 Jun 2005 (EST)
  • Decline. Correct to point out overwhelming similarity, but that's b/c both lines were said by Homestar, and that's the way he talks. Imagine making Fun Facts every time Strong Bad said "deleted." Svelt 06:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Sometimes people just say stuff. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005

[edit] Boring sound

The machine drilling sound is similar to that of the sun-buzzsaw in Teen Girl Squad Issue 3.

  • Decline. Not only are these sounds not the same pitch, they aren't even for the same tool. This is just a noise that sounds somewhat similar to another noise on the site, and just like some re-used words on the site, it is certainly not a reference whatsoever. I decline this as a possible Remark, too, because this comparison is highly irrelevant. --BazookaJoe 01:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Reusing the same sound effects, the same graphical effects (these fireworks are the same ones from that one main page), and especially the same words from the English language do not count as references. If an entire phrase or event from another toon is reused, maybe with a 25% difference at the most, then it might be a legitimate fun fact. --Upset_Your_Balance 01:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 19:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Bah, you guys are missing an even more important point: Strong Bad makes both sound effects. Of course they sound similiar. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Senorial Day

[edit] Vera low

The word "vera" from when Senor Cardgage says "vera low prices" actually means "true" in Italian, "genuine" in Greek, and "side" in Spanish.

  • Decline Which might mean something if it wasn't just Senor Cardgage mispronouncing "very." I mean, "doe" is a real word (in English, no less!) but we don't have a fact explaining its meaning when Cardgage says "Doe NOT miss out!" --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I wouldn't have minded seeing this under Trivia, but then again, I can see its irrelevance. --BazookaJoe 20:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Prezactly. phlip TC 01:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Sort of Accept Scince his name is SENOR Cardgage, this could support the assumation that he could be from a Latin/Hispanic country.
  • If it were in Spanish, I think it would have had to be prounounced like "bera". It could also be taken as Cardgage once again using a woman's name for no good reason as Vera is an actual name. 'Nother words, this fact is just another TTOTOT canidate. Decline Donny vs Universes

[edit] little animal

[edit] Used once more

The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in Where's The Cheat?.

  • Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so Rewrite as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from Where's The Cheat?." phlip TC 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • second Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. Donny vs Universe
  • Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!" I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! Cheatachu72 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • second "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"Maestro 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • 9_9. Cheatachu72 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Let's hear your best "DECLINED." In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - aaronak 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept for Trivia. This isn't terribly interesting information, but TBC rarely reuse music, so it is notable. -Svelt

[edit] time capsule

[edit] The Life Saving Turtle

The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in new hands.

  • D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an ACCEPT?! -MK and/or BurnBox 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT. Cheatachu72 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Good eyes. -Svelt

[edit] Main Page 22

[edit] ALL WRONG.......

Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

VERDICT: The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Main Page 22. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

CONTEST: I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective talk page. — It's dot com 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!

[edit] Unaired Episodes!

"teenage girl show! Revamped for the 90's. More humor! Finer dining! See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. Purplefeltangel 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED... Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--MrsCommanderson 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept'd! That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. Ramrod 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Nuetral I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? The Pardack
    • Comment RACISM Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--Because, It's Midnite
      • What? By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
        • By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. The Pardack
          • Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... Weak Accept! Kvb 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --Upset_Your_Balance 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Uh, "I think?" Automatic Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Hmmm. Decline! Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --Gooblies 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise and Accept The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- Lappy 486 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Minor revise and AcceptCut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- Tony Stony 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Nah, Decline. You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. SaikoRoxi 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
  • Revise and accept. Make it like this:
The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the 
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It 
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.

I could live with that. -- Joshua 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Accepted for the '90s! --kerrek slaya 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
  • Decline I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. Donny vs Universe
    • Sailor Second. A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --Beatfox 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- Joshua
  • Acceptalized. 82.43.178.225
  • Rainbow Moon Heart Accept! Nice find! -- Kiwi 16:55, 24 May 2005
  • Accept. It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --Hamrodrunner 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. SaikoRoxi 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
    • Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. Kiwi 18:18, 26 May 2005
    • Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. Donny vs Universe
      • Second (the decline). If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --rsl12 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline, yo. Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! Cheatachu72 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Another comment - Actually, it's probably not even referencing anything. - SaikoRoxi
  • Decline It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - Song from 60s 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--Big Dog 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Enilced!!! I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.EdgeKing 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
  • Decline. This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. — It's dot com 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Provided the similarities mentioned are true.... 1. TBC watch anime (i.e., Japanese cartoon & Stinko Man); 2. TBC have previously made explicit reference to Sailor Moon (Mainpage 17); and 3. both Teen Girl Squad and Sailor Moon have four original main characters that are teeny-bopper girls. I don't watch or like the series but I see the similarity. -Svelt

[edit] The Luau

[edit] Unexpected guests?

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).

  • Decline. Don't over-brain a joke! -- tomstiff 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second -- Tony Stony 01:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -Svelt
      • Comment... But why would he call the girls "crap-for-brains"? -Kiwi 20:46, 16 Jun 2005

[edit] unused emails

[edit] CDs

This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

  • Decline. At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- tomstiff 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • possible rewriteI get what this one is saying. Strong Bad's computer is clearly too old to have a CD drive and therefore wouldn't be able to burn CDs. Donny vs Universe
  • Rewrite. This would work as a Remark or an "oops!" in that the Compy can't write CD's. No evidence yet that the Tangerine Dream can burn CD's, so that should be left out. -Svelt

[edit] Stinkoman_20X6

[edit] Different Colors

The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

  • Decline "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --NFITC1
    • Second'd. Decline for same reasons.Maestro 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second -- Tony Stony 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. Crystallina 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tiny eye difference

The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.

  • Decline. -- tomstiff 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Massive Rewrite
    The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.
    That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. phlip TC 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Accept as rewritten.It's dot com 14:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Liekand's magic pockets

Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.


[edit] Recently closed items

[edit] rock opera

[edit] Angled?

The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 19:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Error?

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 13:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] guitar

[edit] That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart

Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:guitar. -- tomstiff 14:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] kind of cool

[edit] Homestar's Singing

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:kind of cool. -- tomstiff 13:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] privileges

[edit] Fretmagic Kids!

"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:privileges. -- tomstiff 13:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] flashback

[edit] Emails

How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:flashback. -- tomstiff 13:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] pom pom

[edit] hidden frame

For those of us using a seek bar there is a broken frame between the two easter eggs; a single frame of a black object that doesn't appear anywhere in the email itself.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, Flash artifacts are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see Talk:pom pom. — It's dot com 12:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] part-time job

[edit] The Answering Room

Judging from what's in it, the room that Strong Bad was in was probably a kitchen.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, things noted in the transcript are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see Talk:part-time job. — It's dot com 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] boring (really)

[edit] Definitely not the hat, though

One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:boring (really) -- tomstiff 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] old comics

[edit] Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!

"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the Peanuts cartoon strip, in which Woodstock could only speak in chicken scratch.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:old comics. -- tomstiff 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] secret recipes

[edit] The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:secret recipes. -- tomstiff 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cheatday

[edit] Get outta here kid?

Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:cheatday. -- tomstiff 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 3 Times Halloween Funjob

[edit] 3 Coins Halloween Punjob

The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob. -- tomstiff 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senorial Day

[edit] Old Gron Sad voice?

Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 15:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hoppity Freddie of Values?

The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The dicussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 19:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lurking around

Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to garage sale, where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 15:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senor Shrub

The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in kind of cool.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Señor Senior, Sr.

Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Oh, what a feeling

The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a Toyota sales event called "Toyotathon".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] time capsule

[edit] Eyes

Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

VERDICT: This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:time capsule. — It's dot com 01:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Isle of Pom?

The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:time capsule. -- tomstiff 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] long pants

[edit] No "la dee la dee la"?

Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the Intro.

VERDICT: This item was narrowly accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. — It's dot com 01:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edga Jr. removes text?

Strong Bad opens up Edga Jr. and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with slight modifications. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. — It's dot com 16:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] monster truck

[edit] Get Back Loretta!

The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:monster truck. -- tomstiff 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Luau

[edit] Reference?

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:The Luau. -- tomstiff 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] anything

[edit] The 404 411 on half and half

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:anything. -- tomstiff 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] do over

[edit] Tandy 400 Goofs

When Strong Bad does over the sisters and little animal emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. — It's dot com 01:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Totally not gettin' old?

"Anydangway" is a reference to car, in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] George W. Stnank

Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stnank or Not?

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

VERDICT: After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A Type of Bad Grammar

This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Grammatically Incorrect

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cheat talk

[edit] To "T" or not to "T"

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

VERDICT: After a month of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:cheat talk. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stinkomanual

[edit] Saargtsson Ltd.

The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. Robert Bosch GmbH is an actual German company. (revised)

VERDICT: This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion can be found at Talk:Stinkomanual. — It's dot com 01:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] labor day

[edit] Strong Bad referencing Lucky?

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:labor day. -- tomstiff 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bug In Mouth Disease

[edit] Music by TMBG?

The opening theme is somewhat like They Might Be Giants', "Till My Head Falls Off". The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease. — It's dot com 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 555-What?

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

VERDICT: This item, with modifications, was accepted as an explanation. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease. — It's dot com 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] comic

[edit] CORRECTIONED

the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic

VERDICT. Part of the above info was accepted in a modified form. The discussion has been moved to Talk:comic. — It's dot com 17:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] garage sale

[edit] Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:garage sale. -- tomstiff 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] theme park

[edit] Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?

(A)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show Survivor: Pearl Islands (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to techno.

(B)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Sterritt, a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.

VERDICT: Both of these were accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:theme park. — It's dot com 17:18, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] couch patch

[edit] Computer miscommunications

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

VERDICT: This item was narrowly declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:couch patch. — It's dot com 17:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Blue Laser Commander

[edit] A legendary voice, you screech?

The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

CLOSED. This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant talk page. — It's dot com

[edit] Under Construction

[edit] Get That Character A Kleenex!

1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the anime cliche that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji". The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo, where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Under Construction. — It's dot com 17:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] rampage

[edit] rampage easter egg

At the end of the SBEmail rampage, in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail morning routine.

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rampage. — It's dot com 16:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Main Page 6

[edit] Outta Sync?

Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

CLOSED. The consensus of this discussion has been used to revise the article. The discussion itself has been moved to Talk:Main Page 6. — It's dot com 16:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] best thing

[edit] Alternative vs. Hair Metal

Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success. (rewrite)

VERDICT: This fact was accepted after being rewritten. The discussion has been moved to Talk:best thing. — It's dot com 16:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] origins

[edit] Cut the Crusts

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:origins. -- tomstiff 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

[edit] Who's that Drummond? Redux

"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show Diff'rent Strokes.

VERDICT: The second time around, this item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8. — It's dot com 15:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Homestar Presents: Presents

[edit] Homestar's Clock

It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

VERDICT: This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Charlie Brown

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

CLOSED: This information is correct, but the consensus is to note it on Homestar's House, which it already is. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

VERDICT: This item was accepted and moved. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Runner. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] animal

[edit] Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:animal. — It's dot com 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fanglyfish

The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the anglerfish. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion has been moved to Talk:animal. — It's dot com 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] virus

[edit] Drive letter

After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:virus. — It's dot com 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Compy's Reign

This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.

VERDICT: This item was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:virus. — It's dot com 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stinkoman_20X6

[edit] More Levels

When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

CLOSED. This item is now closed because it is obsolete. The discussion can be found at Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough. — It's dot com 14:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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