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Where the Crap Are We?

the spludge — Wed, 25 May 2005 22:40:14 GMT

the spludge: /* Fun Fact */

[[Image:twinkie.PNG|thumb|"Here's a Twinkie!"]]

Strong Bad and Homestar find themselves in a mysterious blue space. Are they dead?

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]]

== Transcript ==
''{Strong Bad and Homestar are seen standing around in a mysterious blue space}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Strong Bad, could you give me a hand with this—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupting}'' Wait a minute, shut up. Where the crap ARE we?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. Someplace.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What're we doing here? It's like we're in Blue Fadey Land or something.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uhhhm... maybe this is heaven! We're dead!

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, it can't be heaven. There's not enough Twinkies.

''{Homestar looks to his left, and produces a Twinkie from offscreen}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Here's a Twinkie.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. Maybe this ''is'' heaven!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, and it's just you and me forever!

''{Strong Bad slowly turns his head toward the camera as Homestar says this. As Strong Bad speaks, the background grows red}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wait a minute! ''This isn't heaven!!!''

''{Strong Bad flies to the left side of the screen and starts pounding on it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''AUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!''

''{Strong Bad slides down off the bottom of the screen}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, you're right. I think it's Massachusetts.

== Easter Eggs ==
* Click on Homestar's twinkie at the end to see Homestar use it as a telephone.

=== Easter Egg Transcript ===
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{imitating telephone}'' Brinnng! Brinnng!

''{Homestar holds the Twinkie up to his ear}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hello? Senator Pencilface. Yes, this is Homestar. Yes sir, I can save the day! ''{puts the Twinkie down in midair, with a telephone click noise}''

''{Homestar looks to his left and lifts his leg up as if to run off, then stops and puts his leg down}

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Um...I really don't think there's a way out of here.

== Fun Fact ==
*This cartoon can be found in the program Macromedia Central. Go into "Help → About Central" and ctrl-click on the "C" logo (On Mac go into "Central → About Central" and double CMD Click on the C logo). When you are given a password field, type in "sbemail" and press enter. The cartoon will then play in the about box.
*When the screen goes red and Strong Bad says its not Heaven, it signifies that he thinks its Hell.

== External Links ==
*[http://hrwiki.org/mirror/egg.html watch "Where the Crap are We?"] (mirror)
*[http://hrwiki.org/mirror/egg.swf view the flash file for "Where the Crap are We?"] (mirror)

[[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Secret Pages]]

Cheat Commandos (toon)

the spludge — Wed, 25 May 2005 22:31:17 GMT

the spludge: /* Remarks */

[[Image:cheat commandos01.png|thumb|right|220px|Rock Rock On some more!]]

'''Cheat Commandos'''

A new toy series from [[Cheap as Free]]: [[The Cheat Commandos|Cheat Commandos]]! Rock, rock on!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Coach Z]], [[Silent Rip]], [[Blue Laser Commander]], [[Blue Laser minion]], [[Gunhaver]], [[Crackotage]], [[Firebert]], [[Ripberger]], [[Fightgar]], [[Flashfight]]

'''Places:''' [[The Stick]], Blue Laser HQ (either [[Secret Desert Headquarters]] or [[Blue Laser's Nana's Backyard]])

'''Date:''' May 10, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 1:03

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

== Transcript ==
''{Strong Bad is holding out a toy helicopter and making "thub thub thub" noises, then pulls out the Firebert Cheat Commando Action Figure. On the bottom it says "copyright 1986 Cheap As Free Toys"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Firebert}'' Time to para...troop behind enemy lines!

''{Strong Bad drops the action figure to the ground, where Homestar Runner has his own Cheat Commando action figure hiding in some tall grass.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as Silent Rip}'' Surprise, surprise, Firebert!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Firebert}'' Silent Rip! You snuck up on me!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as Silent Rip}'' That's what I do best!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Firebert}'' Time to take out the enemy radar dish!

''{Cut to a bunch of evil The Cheats wearing blue suits and shades (Blue Laser henchmen) in front of [[The Stick|the stick]], which has a pie tin on top of it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as Silent Rip}'' We're outnumbered! We need Reinforcements!

''{Cut back to Firebert and Silent Rip in the tall grass. Coach Z arrives with his own Cheat Commando. It wears military fatigues and a Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket (JRBRR).}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{as Reinforcements}'' Did somebody say my name?

'''STRONG BAD''' and '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as Firebert and Silent Rip}'' Reinforcements!

'''COACH Z:''' ''{as Reinforcements}'' Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket fire!

''{Coach Z presses a button on the back of Reinforcements' JRBRR and a plastic rocket flies up and hits the tin, knocking it over and smashing the Blue Laser henchmen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Firebert}'' Mission accomplished! Time for some R&R!

''{Cut to the three action figures hanging out with a Barbie-like doll and some Xtra Cold Ones.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Cheat Commandos!

'''STRONG BAD''', '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''', and '''COACH Z:''' Rock, rock on!

''{The Cheat Commandos logo comes up}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Cheat Commandos, only from Cheap as Free Toys! Collect them all! ''{As he lists each character, their toy box shows up on screen}'' Fightgar! Crackotage! Silent Rip! Firebert! Gunhaver! Flashfight! Ripberger! Foxface! Reinforcements! And Reynold! ''{cut to a bunch of vehicles and playsets in the yard}'' And don't forget new Cheat Commandos vehicles and playsets! There's the "Troop Carrier," ''{cut to Troop Carrier}'' the "Troop Transport," ''{cut to Troop Transport}'' and the "Action Figure Storage Truck!" ''{cut to Action Figure Storage Truck}'' Then take the action even further with Reynold's Apartment Extreme Playset!

''{Strong Bad brings Reynold out to his playset and plays as him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Augh, I really need to go grocery shopping! I wish my girlfriend didn't leave me!

''{Strong Bad tosses Reynold into the playset.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' All new Cheat Commandos from Cheap as Free Toys! Cheat Commandos, rock, rock on! And now, tune in weekdays, for Cheat Commando Adventures, on the inside of your TV!

''{Cut to a cartoon with cheesy animation with all of the Cheat Commandos. A G.I. Joe-like song plays in the background. Silent Rip is on.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Those loonies are gonna blow up the ocean!

''{Cut to the Blue Laser headquarters. A computer screen in the background reads "OPERATION OCEAN BLOW" and "T-MINUS: GO!!!}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' WE'LL BLOW UP THE OCEAN!

''{Cut to Gunhaver with lasers blasting above his head}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Quick, everyone! To the Action Figure Storage Vehicle!

''{Cut to a canyon, where a whole mess of trucks and Blue Laser vehicles are firing red and blue lasers, respectively, at each other. Cut to Crackotage, Silent Rip, Firebert, Ripberger, Gunhaver and Fightgar running along and then a shot of Fightgar firing his machine gun in all directions}''

'''SPOKESMAN:''' Cheat Commandos is an elite fighting force, sworn to protect the world from the evil forces of Blue Laser!

''{Cut to Blue Laser HQ. Blue Laser is with a Blue Laser commando. The computer screen now reads, "OPERATION DON'T CRUSH OURSELVES" as well as "T-MINUS: TOTAL".}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' CRUSH THE CHEAT COMMANDOS!

''{Cut to Firebert with a TNT detonater. He pushes down the plunger and we hear a boom. It starts a rockslide which covers two Blue Laser Commandos. Cut to Blue Laser HQ. The computer screen reads "OPERATION DON'T CRUSH OURSELVES" and now "FAILED!!"}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' I JUST HATE YOU SO MUCH!

''{Cut to Gunhaver.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Cheat Commandos... ''{zooms out to show him on a pedestal reading, "ROCK, ROCK ON" and some of the commandos surrounding him}'' rock rock on!

''{A jingle is played in the background—"Cheat Commandos, maybe fighting for freedom, and each is sold separately. Cheat Commandos, probably battling evil, buy all our playsets and toys!"}''

'''SPOKESMAN:''' ''{In a nasal voice}'' Weekdays at 4:30.

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "Rock, Rock On" on the final screen to see all the toys again. Click on each toy to see it alone.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This commercial serves to introduce all of the Cheat Commandos with the exception of Firebert. He was previously introduced in the Strong Bad email [[army]].

===Remarks===
*This cartoon is loaded with exceptions to the once-solid rule of only mentioning "Cheat" with "The" in front of it. The fact that all the Cheat Commando characters except Firebert can speak normally implies that the writers paid no regard to the source material, as is the case with many cartoons based on toys, comics or video games.
*When the Cheat Commandos are marching in the TV show, some of them walk by twice.
*At the end, Flashfight doesn't have his arm lifted in salute.
*"Buy all our playsets and toys" is an example of Subliminal Messaging and messages that tell you to spend, spend and spend.

===Goofs===
*Gunhaver calls the "Action Figure Storage Truck" by the wrong name. He says "vehicle" instead of "truck".

*When they're walking to the truck you can see some of them more than once.

===Inside References===
*When the commandos are at "R&R", they are next to "Xtra cold ones", a new variation on a [[Cold One]].
*All Cheat Commando toys are [[$11.01]].
*The Cheat Commando action figure packages are the same design as in the emails "[[action figure]]" and "[[army]]".
*Silent 'But Deadly' Rip's voice in the TV show is the same as the guy in the truck show The Cheat is watching in the Strong Bad email [[privileges]].
*The helicopter sound in the beginning is just like the The Cheat Skycam Traffic helicopter sounds from the Strong Bad email [[local news]].
*The words 'Cool Glasses' on Gunhaver's package is a refrence to [[The theme from DANGERESQUE II: This time, it's not Dangeresque I]] on [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]]
*On the toy packages the word commmandos is coloured with the [[Strongbadia]] colours.
*Ripberger is the name of the magistrate in [[Thy Dungeonman 2]].
**Ripberger is also the name of the character voiced by Mark Hamill in the Lucas Arts game "Full Throttle" (although his name is spelled 'Ripburger').
*On Crackotage's package, it says "Museum Quality". This is a reference to the packaged version of Strong Bad's peanut action figure from the Strong Bad Email [[action figure]].
*The caption "Yellow Dog!!" on Firebert's action figure package is a reference to what Homestar says in [[army]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Foxface]], the only female commando, is obviously modeled after the [[Wikipedia:G. I. Joe|GI Joe]] character, Scarlett, whose mantra is "I'm not just one of the 'guys'; I'm better.", according to the [http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/experience/pl/page.filecards/team.Joe/joe_id.64/dn/default.cfm GI Joe website]. According to Foxface's packaging, she is "Not One of The Guys!!"
*[[Blue Laser]]'s plan to blow up the ocean might be a reference to an actual GI Joe episode. In "There's No Place Like Springfield," [[Wikipedia:COBRA Organization|Cobra]] had invented a chemical compound which could convert any body of water—even oceans—into a powerful explosive.
* The fact that the base of all Cheat Commandos are the same (in terms of size, appearance, expression, etc), with only costumes setting them apart, alludes to countless toys in the 80s that were the same way to facilitate mass-production.

== The Cheat Commandos (and their package captions) ==
*[[Gunhaver]]
**Stylin' Coat
**Cool Glasses!
**Has a Gun!
**Probably from Texas!
*[[Firebert]]
**Yellow Dog!!
**Black Hat!
**Not A Good Commando Name!!
**That One Little Guy!!
*[[Silent Rip]]
**But Deadly!!
**Two(2) Pockets!
**Communicates Via That Microphone Attached to His Helmet!
**Same Size As The Rest!!
*[[Crackotage]]
**Action!!
**Museum Quality!
**Master Locksmith, Perhaps!
**Listens To Jazz!!
*[[Fightgar]]
**Not the Most Popular!!
**Red Cloth!
**Probably Has A Raspy Voice!!
**Needs To Shave!!
*[[Reynold]]
**Civilian Contractor!!
**Fake Tie!
**Favorite Drink: Milk!!
**Not A Blackbelt!!
*[[Reinforcements]]
**The One That Coach Z Bought!!
**Sweet Camos!
**Justice Rocket Backpack!!
**Hard to See!!
*[[Foxface]]
**Lady Type!
**Natural haircolor!
**Totally Has It Together!
**Not One of The Guys!!
*[[Ripberger]]
**Stealthy!!
**Black "Gloves!"
**He's Not Wearing Pajamas!
**This One Wears Red!
*[[Flashfight]]
**In Charge of Stuff!!
**Three Medals!
**Almost Sounds Like "Flashlight"
**Five Buttons!
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/cheatcommando.html watch "Cheat Commandos"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/cheatcommando_mx.swf view the Flash file for "Cheat Commandos"]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=14 forum thread re: "Cheat Commandos"]

[[Category:Shorts]]
[[Category:Cheat Commandos]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]
[[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]]
[[Category:Coach Z Filmography]]
[[Category:Fightgar Filmography]]
[[Category:Firebert Filmography]]
[[Category:Crackotage Filmography]]
[[Category:Gunhaver Filmography]]
[[Category:Reynold Filmography]]
[[Category:Blue Laser Commander Filmography]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

the spludge — Wed, 25 May 2005 22:27:23 GMT

the spludge: /* The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' RACISM--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Moon Accept Power Make UP!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
<s>*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, i'm sorry. The correct answer, was Declined.''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I'm not that worked-up about this one. He would probably have typed Raffi if he meant to refer to Raffi. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:53, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''decline''' Don't like the "might be" (never do) but this one at least is plausible. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"Might be" and "obscure" don't work for me, sorry. Although it has a small likeliness, I doubt it. '''Decline.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Accept''' because seriously I gotta accept ''one'' of these things, right? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:19, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dee-clined.''' Doesn't seem like any sort of referance to Raffi. It seems like too big of a stretch. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:55 AM, 21 May 2005

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete crappy facts outright! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I speculate that this fun fact might be declined...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' though there was a roller coaster like that in Wildwood there are other 'circle coasters' out there [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' No no no. There are rides like this all over. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - Strikes me as speculation and that usually doesn't make a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:02, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Freaky D'clined''' - Nope. Sorry. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:02 AM, May 21, 2005

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

*'''Decleated! I mean, Da Cheated! I mean Del Taco!''' Actually, I've ridden on a roller coaster type thing (called "The Loop") in which the only track was a circle (Shaped like this > '''O'''). But, we unfortunately ''didn't'' catch fire. *Sigh.* [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*Decline I saw on once called the ring of fire. No one passed out. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Second: Revise, Decline...oVG2?:''' Talk to my man with the isometric formula and the Roller Coaster Tycoon! (Yes, Shockwave, a coaster in one of them Six Flaggie parks, has TWO loops.) -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Though most loops nowadays are tear-shaped, there are some roller coasters with circular loops. The intensity of the ride boasts a more thrilling coaster. The only real concern with circular loops is that there's a greater chance of riders falling out at the top, but that can be avoided if proper safety measures are taken. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' These exist, I think. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' I've been on roller coasters like that so they ''do'' exist. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I first rode on a looping rolly-coaster in 1977. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declone''' If the info is wrong, then the fact isn't a fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll decline YOUR fun fact, my lord!''' I've been waiting all day to use that one. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[do over]]===

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005
*This one doesn't even deserve my vote. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Unless I see evidence that convinces me otherwise, I'ma gonna '''Second''' that. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
**That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''STRONG ACCEPT''' I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. [[User:im_a_evil_wizard|im_a_evil_wizard]] 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
**I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** If its a coincidence then there is no reason to list it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Good thing it's not a coincidence --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** How can you be so sure? (oh, and when responded to a bulleted fact, use multiple stars instead of colons. It's easier to respond that way (you MUST use colons to respond to a colon-starred fact or it looks terrible), and the spacing is off if you use colons.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Accept.''' It wouldn't be stealing. It would be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage homage]-ing. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept''' I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
* Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Incredibly Strong Accept''' I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --[[Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm gonna say ACCEPT''' - Makes sense to me. I like that episode too! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*All right, I'm 90% sure that most of this is because you like Family Guy, not because there's a real connection. The timing is probably nothing more than a coincidence, and from my understanding, the joke is only vaguely similar. EVERY OTHER REFERENCE BAR NONE that goes through STUFF needs a solid connection or it gets near-unanimous declines, but that solid connection is curiously absent here. Why accept this fact? I can't see why! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I just don't see it. Other than the fact that it involved coinage being eaten, I just don't see any similarity between the two incidents --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*To everyone who wants more evidence: In the Family Guy episode the previous night, there were a couple of jokes about the coins jingling in Peter's stomach, and Homestar makes a very similar jingling noise after eating the coins. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 10:13, 22 May 2005
**Uh, that was already a part of the fact and adds nothing to this discussion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Nor does it add any weight to the evidence that the two jokes are connected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I agree with Jay. I think you guys are trying to make a connections where there is none, simply because you want it. I don't think TBC would be cheap enough to steal a joke from Family Guy. I, too, enjoy FG. I enjoy it enough to realize that both Seth Mcfarlane and TBC are original enough to not copy eachother in some sort of "homage".... - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**It's not a stolen joke or a borrowed one, it's a reference. Sort of like TBC saying "Hi, we like your show" --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** If it IS based on FG, then it's a stolen joke, because they don't give any credit of any sort to the original - including SOLID references (like the type I've been asking for since my vote!). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Since when was did any of the referrences(anywhere on HR) get mentioned in the credits? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***** You're taking the word too literally. I mean that the references make some mention that can easily be tied to something else that makes the reference (relatively) clear - the name of the character on the Halloween costume is revealed, an exact line of dialogue is replicated, the name of an establishment is thrown into conversation, etc. Where's the tie here? It's a similar joke that could stand on its own without Family Guy having ever used the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***** For me it was the coins jingling inside homestar they way they did inside peter. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
****** But that's still just part of the similar joke that could easily stand on its own without FG having ever done the joke. It's not solid. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
******The point is we do have probable cause to believe this. I suppose it could be revised to say it was posted the day after a very similar joke on family guy aired, and that wether this was a wink at Seth Mcfarline, is unknown. That much is clearly true. --02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)~
******* We have just as much reason to accept this as "Get Back Loretta" and you Declined that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*******I obviously feel the reasoning provided is sufficient and much better than on that one, or I would have declined this one. I didn't however. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*******The only "reasoning" supplied has just given weight to the argument that this is a coincidence. Once again, the fact that the toons aired so close to each other, the fact that TBC DO NOT rip off jokes directly from other people (instead using more subtle references like in the Halloween toons), and that the jokes are not identical only help to show that its a coincidence. Nobody has given reasoning beyond the close air date. THAT is why people are so opposed to this one. And to the person who said the coin jingling noises were similiar: Get a bunch of coins together. Jingle them. Sound familier? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*******Apparently more are not opposed to it, then opposed. All you're argueing is "cus I said so". --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
********And now you're once again resorting to petty insults. Way to give me another reason to see this fun "fact" die. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I vote against. Similar jokes, yes. But not enough to consider one a referance to the other. '''Decline''' --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is getting sort of petty on both sides, but my firm stance is: if this was referring to anything other than Family Guy, it probably would already be Declined unanimously. This fact is EQUALLY as valid as dozens of other Declined facts. The arguments that have been provided are all circumstantial and probably coincidental: a similar joke that happened to be one day apart. The words "might be" in the fact (which ARE there) cause almost everyone on this Wiki to Decline it without even reading any further. No solid connections - NONE - have been provided. Okay, so they both involve eating coins and having them jingle. That doesn't automatically make it a reference, since no dialogue is reproduced and no names are mantioned. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
* And I'll say it one more time - it doesn't actually ''refer to'' Family Guy at all. If it IS based on Family Guy then it's nothing more than joke theft, and I'd like to think that The Bros. Chaps are above that sort of plagiarism. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**Besides, (and this IS getting really petty), the way that Homestar made the sound of coins jangling is not similar enough to be called a reference to how Peter jangled. I mean, how many characters of cartoons have eaten change before anyway? How many have jangled in some sort afterwards as part of a joke? Even if this is a reference (which i highly doubt to be as such), what makes you think it was a Family Guy reference? If Homestar ate nickles, maybe. I like FG as much as the next guy, and I respect both the creators of FG and HSR to be original enough to not steal a joke from someone else. To me, this is starting to feel like that episode of South Park entitled "Simpsons Did it." Have we become Butters people? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:19, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Apparently you've never heard of megaman. :)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May
**Jimi Hendrix did... --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' "I DON'T WANT TO EAT A GUITAR!" "You're not eating it... you're shredding some hot licks... with your teeth." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's true, and, yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but it's kinda "eh."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you too''' - Enough said. Really. This hardly qualifies as a usable fact, for god's sake. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:49 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Revise, Accept'd''' Say something more like:
<pre>Stong Bad wanted to have a lazor gun and a guitar for hands but there is no way he could play
the guitar or fire the gun without hands.</pre> --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Even then I think this fact is sort of pointless. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:55, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declorn'd!''' I think someone ELSE could play guitar, like coach z or something. Since your hand is a lazor gun, you can fire it yourself! I mean, the lazor gun WOULD be part of you. It's exactly like saying your hands have no use! --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:02, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Technocomment, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh...''' Even if this fact was accepted (which it probably won't be), you're saying two different ffffffffff *gag* fuuuuuuuu *sputter* fu-hun facts (hard to call it a FUN fact) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline with an iron fist.''' That doesn't even make sense. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a bronze fist.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You! Obey the Decline Fist!''' Or at least Rewrite so I know what you're talking about. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:53 AM 21 May 2005

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That's why he said "I DID swallow a bug" at the end, I think.
*'''Insert Homestar-related Accept pun here.''' I noticed this too. --[[user:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:03, 24 May 2005

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.
*'''Accept.''' We have links to IHOP. Why not Dairy Queen? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:35, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Also links to Sonic, Winn-Dixie, Hardee's, Sbarro, Del Taco, Chick-fil-A, and Big Boy. I'm sure there are more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' sure, why not? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' DQ is no McDonald's or Subway, (there's only one in my town!) and you have to admit it's an interesting nickname. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This fact is fine, particularly because I'm not sure all parts of the country (not to mention other countries) have Dairy Queens. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Good with me. Continue, brave Fun Facter! -Walking Armless
*'''Cool Cool (aka accept)''' I WENT TO DQ YESTERDAY!!! --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'Tis True Pom Pom, 'Tis True, so '''Accept!''' -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:51 PM, 21 May 2005
*Could we possibly have a unanimous '''Accept''' on our hands? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:55, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment
*Trogga's pushing it again. '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Sure, why not, if it's true. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline''' A very common phrase that's a tad too obvious. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know it. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Most poeple should know what a quack is... and if you don't i'm sorry --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:52, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept'''. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Weak Decline''' It's true, but it's common knowlage--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Accept''' Doc Zamboni's Egustorative Snake Oil Elixir Extract, and the ladies will be all-up-ons! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*** But it still isn't relevent. Like I said, they didn't specify a search engine and the Frodo pic only shows up on Google. I'm not even sure why its interesting at all. "Blue ones" causes Frodo to come up '''because his eyes are blue'''. Its not weird. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****I hate it when someone has to have their say (''read:'' get in the last word), only to repeat what he himself has already said. Bah. --P810A
**** I hate it when someone whines about someone getting the last word, just to try and get the last word. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment.''' Donny, will you SHUT UP already?! We get it! You don't want this to be a Fun Fact! There's no sense in standing up and trying to persuade everyone. The purpose of a VOTE is that everyone can get their OWN idea in, NOT ONE PERSON'S. So "BACK OFF BABY." Decline it and then mind your own business.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I hate it when someone criticizes a noob for repeating and agreeing with another member, and then repeats his own point of view over and over again just in case we missed it the first few times. *ahem* -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Common Taters''' - I'm sorry, but will everyone PLEASE stop making a huge deal out of this? This has to be the most ridiculous argument I have ever seen in my entire 12 years of living. Really. I'm just going to get this back on topic for actual debating, if everyone is done bickering about nothing.
So, after some thinking, '''Weak Decline.''' This is very true, and also very strange, but it shouldn't really count as a fact, considering how you can just click on the link and already know what's on the page. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:40 PM, 21 May 2005

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Srong Accept'''come one peoples (prenounced 'pee-oe-puhls') this is the first time we have evidence of Marzipan having eyebrows period, up until this she was like my friend Jeff who had no eyebrows--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
**'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nooo, no no no no. Decline.''' - Nuh uh! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:34 PM, 23 May 2005

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' And I've seen a yard sale in a garage too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think he's neccessarily making fun of it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline'''I see where you're going with this, which is kidna the problem. It's a little obvious and pointless[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.
*'''Decline=Very Yes.''' Aunt Gert Alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline No it's because of the over 400,000 viruses. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''All right Edgar, drop a Decline on 'em!''' - No, Bubs' belt is slightly darker than the grass if you look close enough. It's the viruses, that's all. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:19 PM, 21 May 2005

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

the spludge — Wed, 25 May 2005 22:22:47 GMT

the spludge: /* ALL WRONG....... */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' RACISM--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Moon Accept Power Make UP!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
<s>*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, i'm sorry. The correct answer, was Declined.''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I'm not that worked-up about this one. He would probably have typed Raffi if he meant to refer to Raffi. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:53, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''decline''' Don't like the "might be" (never do) but this one at least is plausible. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"Might be" and "obscure" don't work for me, sorry. Although it has a small likeliness, I doubt it. '''Decline.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Accept''' because seriously I gotta accept ''one'' of these things, right? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:19, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dee-clined.''' Doesn't seem like any sort of referance to Raffi. It seems like too big of a stretch. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:55 AM, 21 May 2005

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete crappy facts outright! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I speculate that this fun fact might be declined...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' though there was a roller coaster like that in Wildwood there are other 'circle coasters' out there [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' No no no. There are rides like this all over. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - Strikes me as speculation and that usually doesn't make a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:02, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Freaky D'clined''' - Nope. Sorry. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:02 AM, May 21, 2005

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

*'''Decleated! I mean, Da Cheated! I mean Del Taco!''' Actually, I've ridden on a roller coaster type thing (called "The Loop") in which the only track was a circle (Shaped like this > '''O'''). But, we unfortunately ''didn't'' catch fire. *Sigh.* [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*Decline I saw on once called the ring of fire. No one passed out. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Second: Revise, Decline...oVG2?:''' Talk to my man with the isometric formula and the Roller Coaster Tycoon! (Yes, Shockwave, a coaster in one of them Six Flaggie parks, has TWO loops.) -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Though most loops nowadays are tear-shaped, there are some roller coasters with circular loops. The intensity of the ride boasts a more thrilling coaster. The only real concern with circular loops is that there's a greater chance of riders falling out at the top, but that can be avoided if proper safety measures are taken. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' These exist, I think. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' I've been on roller coasters like that so they ''do'' exist. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I first rode on a looping rolly-coaster in 1977. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declone''' If the info is wrong, then the fact isn't a fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll decline YOUR fun fact, my lord!''' I've been waiting all day to use that one. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[do over]]===

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005
*This one doesn't even deserve my vote. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Unless I see evidence that convinces me otherwise, I'ma gonna '''Second''' that. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
**That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''STRONG ACCEPT''' I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. [[User:im_a_evil_wizard|im_a_evil_wizard]] 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
**I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** If its a coincidence then there is no reason to list it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Good thing it's not a coincidence --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** How can you be so sure? (oh, and when responded to a bulleted fact, use multiple stars instead of colons. It's easier to respond that way (you MUST use colons to respond to a colon-starred fact or it looks terrible), and the spacing is off if you use colons.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Accept.''' It wouldn't be stealing. It would be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage homage]-ing. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept''' I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
* Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Incredibly Strong Accept''' I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --[[Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm gonna say ACCEPT''' - Makes sense to me. I like that episode too! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*All right, I'm 90% sure that most of this is because you like Family Guy, not because there's a real connection. The timing is probably nothing more than a coincidence, and from my understanding, the joke is only vaguely similar. EVERY OTHER REFERENCE BAR NONE that goes through STUFF needs a solid connection or it gets near-unanimous declines, but that solid connection is curiously absent here. Why accept this fact? I can't see why! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I just don't see it. Other than the fact that it involved coinage being eaten, I just don't see any similarity between the two incidents --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*To everyone who wants more evidence: In the Family Guy episode the previous night, there were a couple of jokes about the coins jingling in Peter's stomach, and Homestar makes a very similar jingling noise after eating the coins. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 10:13, 22 May 2005
**Uh, that was already a part of the fact and adds nothing to this discussion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Nor does it add any weight to the evidence that the two jokes are connected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I agree with Jay. I think you guys are trying to make a connections where there is none, simply because you want it. I don't think TBC would be cheap enough to steal a joke from Family Guy. I, too, enjoy FG. I enjoy it enough to realize that both Seth Mcfarlane and TBC are original enough to not copy eachother in some sort of "homage".... - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**It's not a stolen joke or a borrowed one, it's a reference. Sort of like TBC saying "Hi, we like your show" --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** If it IS based on FG, then it's a stolen joke, because they don't give any credit of any sort to the original - including SOLID references (like the type I've been asking for since my vote!). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Since when was did any of the referrences(anywhere on HR) get mentioned in the credits? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***** You're taking the word too literally. I mean that the references make some mention that can easily be tied to something else that makes the reference (relatively) clear - the name of the character on the Halloween costume is revealed, an exact line of dialogue is replicated, the name of an establishment is thrown into conversation, etc. Where's the tie here? It's a similar joke that could stand on its own without Family Guy having ever used the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***** For me it was the coins jingling inside homestar they way they did inside peter. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
****** But that's still just part of the similar joke that could easily stand on its own without FG having ever done the joke. It's not solid. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
******The point is we do have probable cause to believe this. I suppose it could be revised to say it was posted the day after a very similar joke on family guy aired, and that wether this was a wink at Seth Mcfarline, is unknown. That much is clearly true. --02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)~
******* We have just as much reason to accept this as "Get Back Loretta" and you Declined that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*******I obviously feel the reasoning provided is sufficient and much better than on that one, or I would have declined this one. I didn't however. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*******The only "reasoning" supplied has just given weight to the argument that this is a coincidence. Once again, the fact that the toons aired so close to each other, the fact that TBC DO NOT rip off jokes directly from other people (instead using more subtle references like in the Halloween toons), and that the jokes are not identical only help to show that its a coincidence. Nobody has given reasoning beyond the close air date. THAT is why people are so opposed to this one. And to the person who said the coin jingling noises were similiar: Get a bunch of coins together. Jingle them. Sound familier? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*******Apparently more are not opposed to it, then opposed. All you're argueing is "cus I said so". --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
********And now you're once again resorting to petty insults. Way to give me another reason to see this fun "fact" die. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I vote against. Similar jokes, yes. But not enough to consider one a referance to the other. '''Decline''' --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is getting sort of petty on both sides, but my firm stance is: if this was referring to anything other than Family Guy, it probably would already be Declined unanimously. This fact is EQUALLY as valid as dozens of other Declined facts. The arguments that have been provided are all circumstantial and probably coincidental: a similar joke that happened to be one day apart. The words "might be" in the fact (which ARE there) cause almost everyone on this Wiki to Decline it without even reading any further. No solid connections - NONE - have been provided. Okay, so they both involve eating coins and having them jingle. That doesn't automatically make it a reference, since no dialogue is reproduced and no names are mantioned. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
* And I'll say it one more time - it doesn't actually ''refer to'' Family Guy at all. If it IS based on Family Guy then it's nothing more than joke theft, and I'd like to think that The Bros. Chaps are above that sort of plagiarism. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**Besides, (and this IS getting really petty), the way that Homestar made the sound of coins jangling is not similar enough to be called a reference to how Peter jangled. I mean, how many characters of cartoons have eaten change before anyway? How many have jangled in some sort afterwards as part of a joke? Even if this is a reference (which i highly doubt to be as such), what makes you think it was a Family Guy reference? If Homestar ate nickles, maybe. I like FG as much as the next guy, and I respect both the creators of FG and HSR to be original enough to not steal a joke from someone else. To me, this is starting to feel like that episode of South Park entitled "Simpsons Did it." Have we become Butters people? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:19, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Apparently you've never heard of megaman. :)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May
**Jimi Hendrix did... --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' "I DON'T WANT TO EAT A GUITAR!" "You're not eating it... you're shredding some hot licks... with your teeth." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's true, and, yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but it's kinda "eh."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you too''' - Enough said. Really. This hardly qualifies as a usable fact, for god's sake. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:49 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Revise, Accept'd''' Say something more like:
<pre>Stong Bad wanted to have a lazor gun and a guitar for hands but there is no way he could play
the guitar or fire the gun without hands.</pre> --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Even then I think this fact is sort of pointless. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:55, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declorn'd!''' I think someone ELSE could play guitar, like coach z or something. Since your hand is a lazor gun, you can fire it yourself! I mean, the lazor gun WOULD be part of you. It's exactly like saying your hands have no use! --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:02, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Technocomment, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh...''' Even if this fact was accepted (which it probably won't be), you're saying two different ffffffffff *gag* fuuuuuuuu *sputter* fu-hun facts (hard to call it a FUN fact) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline with an iron fist.''' That doesn't even make sense. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a bronze fist.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You! Obey the Decline Fist!''' Or at least Rewrite so I know what you're talking about. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:53 AM 21 May 2005

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That's why he said "I DID swallow a bug" at the end, I think.
*'''Insert Homestar-related Accept pun here.''' I noticed this too. --[[user:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:03, 24 May 2005

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.
*'''Accept.''' We have links to IHOP. Why not Dairy Queen? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:35, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Also links to Sonic, Winn-Dixie, Hardee's, Sbarro, Del Taco, Chick-fil-A, and Big Boy. I'm sure there are more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' sure, why not? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' DQ is no McDonald's or Subway, (there's only one in my town!) and you have to admit it's an interesting nickname. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This fact is fine, particularly because I'm not sure all parts of the country (not to mention other countries) have Dairy Queens. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Good with me. Continue, brave Fun Facter! -Walking Armless
*'''Cool Cool (aka accept)''' I WENT TO DQ YESTERDAY!!! --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'Tis True Pom Pom, 'Tis True, so '''Accept!''' -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:51 PM, 21 May 2005
*Could we possibly have a unanimous '''Accept''' on our hands? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:55, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment
*Trogga's pushing it again. '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Sure, why not, if it's true. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline''' A very common phrase that's a tad too obvious. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know it. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Most poeple should know what a quack is... and if you don't i'm sorry --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:52, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept'''. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Weak Decline''' It's true, but it's common knowlage--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Accept''' Doc Zamboni's Egustorative Snake Oil Elixir Extract, and the ladies will be all-up-ons! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*** But it still isn't relevent. Like I said, they didn't specify a search engine and the Frodo pic only shows up on Google. I'm not even sure why its interesting at all. "Blue ones" causes Frodo to come up '''because his eyes are blue'''. Its not weird. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****I hate it when someone has to have their say (''read:'' get in the last word), only to repeat what he himself has already said. Bah. --P810A
**** I hate it when someone whines about someone getting the last word, just to try and get the last word. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment.''' Donny, will you SHUT UP already?! We get it! You don't want this to be a Fun Fact! There's no sense in standing up and trying to persuade everyone. The purpose of a VOTE is that everyone can get their OWN idea in, NOT ONE PERSON'S. So "BACK OFF BABY." Decline it and then mind your own business.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I hate it when someone criticizes a noob for repeating and agreeing with another member, and then repeats his own point of view over and over again just in case we missed it the first few times. *ahem* -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Common Taters''' - I'm sorry, but will everyone PLEASE stop making a huge deal out of this? This has to be the most ridiculous argument I have ever seen in my entire 12 years of living. Really. I'm just going to get this back on topic for actual debating, if everyone is done bickering about nothing.
So, after some thinking, '''Weak Decline.''' This is very true, and also very strange, but it shouldn't really count as a fact, considering how you can just click on the link and already know what's on the page. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:40 PM, 21 May 2005

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Srong Accept'''come one peoples (prenounced 'pee-oe-puhls') this is the first time we have evidence of Marzipan having eyebrows period, up until this she was like my friend Jeff who had no eyebrows--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
**'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nooo, no no no no. Decline.''' - Nuh uh! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:34 PM, 23 May 2005

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' And I've seen a yard sale in a garage too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think he's neccessarily making fun of it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline'''I see where you're going with this, which is kidna the problem. It's a little obvious and pointless[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.
*'''Decline=Very Yes.''' Aunt Gert Alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline No it's because of the over 400,000 viruses. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''All right Edgar, drop a Decline on 'em!''' - No, Bubs' belt is slightly darker than the grass if you look close enough. It's the viruses, that's all. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:19 PM, 21 May 2005

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

the spludge — Tue, 17 May 2005 21:13:27 GMT

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[do over]]===

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me 
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted day after Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May
**Jimi Hendrix did... --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Abnehmen'''(that's German for decline) [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*** But it still isn't relevent. Like I said, they didn't specify a search engine and the Frodo pic only shows up on Google. I'm not even sure why its interesting at all. "Blue ones" causes Frodo to come up '''because his eyes are blue'''. Its not weird. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****I hate it when someone has to have their say (''read:'' get in the last word), only to repeat what he himself has already said. Bah. --P810A
**** I hate it when someone whines about someone getting the last word, just to try and get the last word. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment.''' Donny, will you SHUT UP already?! We get it! You don't want this to be a Fun Fact! There's no sense in standing up and trying to persuade everyone. The purpose of a VOTE is that everyone can get their OWN idea in, NOT ONE PERSON'S. So "BACK OFF BABY." Decline it and then mind your own business.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.''' This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[sugarbob]]===
==== In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact ====
One of Strong Bad's "girlfriends" types "LMAO." The A stands for a mildly offensive swear word. This is the second reference to swearing on the site. (The first was Strong Bad typing "What the f" in trevor the vampire.)

*'''Decline.''' So what? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is the second time? Ack! I usually kills these things before they can get STUFF-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You, my friend, just bought yourself a decline''' Come on. It's bad enough when we have to vote on the "What the f" fact. I strongly doubt this is really the second time - and even if it is, who cares? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Damn," "Hell" and even "Friggin'" could also be considered swears by some, and these are used a on the site. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''third''' in the egg in [[comic]] there is a 45 of Mudhoney's "You Stupid Asshole" [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 00:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment''' In [[Hairstyle Runner]], one of the sample styles is called smartass. My virgin ears! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:47, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''' I like the first 2 sentences. everything after that can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:30
*God, why are people so (censored) obsessed with catolouging every blasted thing in the HR universe? Its bad enough there are facts like "This is the first time Marzipan raises an eyebrow". Jeez, '''Decline so hard you'd think there were two of 'em'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' thats all i can say '''Decline Decline Decline!''' i mean whats the point yo?!? --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinate without pizzaz and JAM!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 09:46, 4 May 2005 (CST)
** Best decline ever. They tell me not to, but I still '''seconds''' it! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Surprisingly, "crap" is also a mildly offensive swear word. Shall we count those too when we see whether this is the 2nd or not? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 16:13, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Who cares? </carl> '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:54, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-clined.''' [[User:Bonk|Bonk]]
*If the trevor the vampire one gets declined, this one should be too. '''Pom-Pom! And! Strong Bad! Are! Totally! Declining!''' --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:50, 6 May 2005
*Yeah, DECLINE. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:11, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Toons! Games! Characters! Declines!''' First two sentences are both true, and obvious, while the third is completely untrue. The stuff in brackets has also been decided, and that's declined as well. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] <tt>([[User talk:Venusy|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Venusy|Contributions]])</tt>, 14:22, 7 May 2005 (BST)
*It's not <strike>Accept</strike> because HERE COMES THE '''Decline'''inkaman!
*'''Seconding All of the Declines''' Everything has already been said, and there are so many reasons that this shouldn't be on the site, it's insane. I hope they get rid of this one fast. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:37 May 8, 2005
*<strike>'''Accept!'''</strike> Haha, only joking '''Decline.''' I never heard of the word 'ass' being any stronger a curse than 'crap' or 'screw y'all!' myself. Technically the fact is true, but not fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 19:52, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**These "clever" votes are getting out of hand when we have Accept and Decline on the same line. I know you're "only joking," but please make your votes one or the other, so there's no chance of misunderstanding. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:27, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
***True, but when the vote is this lopsided, I think it's safe to... '''Second! Accept! Rewrite! Deline!''' (seriously, decline).--[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:55, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nein! Nein!''' Although I wouldn't be surprised to hear [[Thnikkaman]] say, "Yeah, STFU, kid!" In that acronym, of course. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh-you-thought-there-was-gonna-be-an-Accept-but-guess-what-there's-a-DECLINED!!''' 'Nuff said. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
***'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Aunt Gert====
Aunt Gert being sold for 22½¢ could be because she was used in sb_email 22 when Strongbad was making fun of the English.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====Legless====
Strong bad is legless when he says "Up-up-up! Moms only!" in the easter egg in the swf.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Senor Mortgage]]===
====Potential reference====
The phone number 555-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY could be a potential reference to a phone number in [[wikipedia:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]], which is 1-555-55-5-55555-555-5555.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senor Mortgage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[current status]]===
====Send In The Clown====
[[Wikipedia:Ronald McDonald|Ronald McDonald]] is the clown mascot for McDonald's.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:current status]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:31, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:21, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

*'''I'm not gonna write a "Declined" joke this week...''' Ryu was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this email, however since there's so many things it could be a reference to (just search the web for "RyGuy") it's not certain. Either pick one and prove it, or this is textbook TTATOT --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:41, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' "RyGuy" is a nickname for Ryan, not a reference to anything. I happen to have a friend named Ryan, who a lot of people call "RyGuy". Do I go around saying "Is that a reference to...?!" No, I don't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:54, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====The bouncing ball====

When Coach Z bounces the basketball, it sounds like a dodgeball instead of a basketball.

*'''Decline''' a bounce is a bounce [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Accept.''' First thing I thought of when I heard the bounce. TBC needs a new Foley artist! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:07, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''This was under "goofs" wasn't it? Gads, I hate facts like this. Its a sound effect, so who cares? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It may sound like a dodge ball, but in the DVD, when Mike Chapman is going against Homestar in Basketball, that's how their basketball sounds. [[User:Snailmail|Snailmail]]

====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:16, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.
*'''Decline=Very Yes.''' Aunt Gert Alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

the spludge — Tue, 17 May 2005 21:11:19 GMT

the spludge: /* Falling for You */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[do over]]===

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me 
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted day after Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Abnehmen'''(that's German for decline) [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*** But it still isn't relevent. Like I said, they didn't specify a search engine and the Frodo pic only shows up on Google. I'm not even sure why its interesting at all. "Blue ones" causes Frodo to come up '''because his eyes are blue'''. Its not weird. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****I hate it when someone has to have their say (''read:'' get in the last word), only to repeat what he himself has already said. Bah. --P810A
**** I hate it when someone whines about someone getting the last word, just to try and get the last word. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment.''' Donny, will you SHUT UP already?! We get it! You don't want this to be a Fun Fact! There's no sense in standing up and trying to persuade everyone. The purpose of a VOTE is that everyone can get their OWN idea in, NOT ONE PERSON'S. So "BACK OFF BABY." Decline it and then mind your own business.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.''' This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[sugarbob]]===
==== In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact ====
One of Strong Bad's "girlfriends" types "LMAO." The A stands for a mildly offensive swear word. This is the second reference to swearing on the site. (The first was Strong Bad typing "What the f" in trevor the vampire.)

*'''Decline.''' So what? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is the second time? Ack! I usually kills these things before they can get STUFF-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You, my friend, just bought yourself a decline''' Come on. It's bad enough when we have to vote on the "What the f" fact. I strongly doubt this is really the second time - and even if it is, who cares? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Damn," "Hell" and even "Friggin'" could also be considered swears by some, and these are used a on the site. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''third''' in the egg in [[comic]] there is a 45 of Mudhoney's "You Stupid Asshole" [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 00:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment''' In [[Hairstyle Runner]], one of the sample styles is called smartass. My virgin ears! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:47, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''' I like the first 2 sentences. everything after that can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:30
*God, why are people so (censored) obsessed with catolouging every blasted thing in the HR universe? Its bad enough there are facts like "This is the first time Marzipan raises an eyebrow". Jeez, '''Decline so hard you'd think there were two of 'em'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' thats all i can say '''Decline Decline Decline!''' i mean whats the point yo?!? --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinate without pizzaz and JAM!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 09:46, 4 May 2005 (CST)
** Best decline ever. They tell me not to, but I still '''seconds''' it! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Surprisingly, "crap" is also a mildly offensive swear word. Shall we count those too when we see whether this is the 2nd or not? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 16:13, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Who cares? </carl> '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:54, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-clined.''' [[User:Bonk|Bonk]]
*If the trevor the vampire one gets declined, this one should be too. '''Pom-Pom! And! Strong Bad! Are! Totally! Declining!''' --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:50, 6 May 2005
*Yeah, DECLINE. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:11, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Toons! Games! Characters! Declines!''' First two sentences are both true, and obvious, while the third is completely untrue. The stuff in brackets has also been decided, and that's declined as well. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] <tt>([[User talk:Venusy|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Venusy|Contributions]])</tt>, 14:22, 7 May 2005 (BST)
*It's not <strike>Accept</strike> because HERE COMES THE '''Decline'''inkaman!
*'''Seconding All of the Declines''' Everything has already been said, and there are so many reasons that this shouldn't be on the site, it's insane. I hope they get rid of this one fast. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:37 May 8, 2005
*<strike>'''Accept!'''</strike> Haha, only joking '''Decline.''' I never heard of the word 'ass' being any stronger a curse than 'crap' or 'screw y'all!' myself. Technically the fact is true, but not fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 19:52, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**These "clever" votes are getting out of hand when we have Accept and Decline on the same line. I know you're "only joking," but please make your votes one or the other, so there's no chance of misunderstanding. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:27, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
***True, but when the vote is this lopsided, I think it's safe to... '''Second! Accept! Rewrite! Deline!''' (seriously, decline).--[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:55, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nein! Nein!''' Although I wouldn't be surprised to hear [[Thnikkaman]] say, "Yeah, STFU, kid!" In that acronym, of course. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh-you-thought-there-was-gonna-be-an-Accept-but-guess-what-there's-a-DECLINED!!''' 'Nuff said. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
***'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Aunt Gert====
Aunt Gert being sold for 22½¢ could be because she was used in sb_email 22 when Strongbad was making fun of the English.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====Legless====
Strong bad is legless when he says "Up-up-up! Moms only!" in the easter egg in the swf.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Senor Mortgage]]===
====Potential reference====
The phone number 555-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY could be a potential reference to a phone number in [[wikipedia:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]], which is 1-555-55-5-55555-555-5555.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senor Mortgage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[current status]]===
====Send In The Clown====
[[Wikipedia:Ronald McDonald|Ronald McDonald]] is the clown mascot for McDonald's.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:current status]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:31, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:21, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

*'''I'm not gonna write a "Declined" joke this week...''' Ryu was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this email, however since there's so many things it could be a reference to (just search the web for "RyGuy") it's not certain. Either pick one and prove it, or this is textbook TTATOT --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:41, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' "RyGuy" is a nickname for Ryan, not a reference to anything. I happen to have a friend named Ryan, who a lot of people call "RyGuy". Do I go around saying "Is that a reference to...?!" No, I don't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:54, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====The bouncing ball====

When Coach Z bounces the basketball, it sounds like a dodgeball instead of a basketball.

*'''Decline''' a bounce is a bounce [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Accept.''' First thing I thought of when I heard the bounce. TBC needs a new Foley artist! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:07, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''This was under "goofs" wasn't it? Gads, I hate facts like this. Its a sound effect, so who cares? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It may sound like a dodge ball, but in the DVD, when Mike Chapman is going against Homestar in Basketball, that's how their basketball sounds. [[User:Snailmail|Snailmail]]

====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:16, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.
*'''Decline=Very Yes.''' Aunt Gert Alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

the spludge — Wed, 11 May 2005 22:19:40 GMT

the spludge: /* The first mother's day toon? */

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the spludge — Wed, 11 May 2005 22:17:30 GMT

the spludge: /* In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact */

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the spludge — Wed, 11 May 2005 22:16:55 GMT

the spludge: /* In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

the spludge — Wed, 11 May 2005 22:08:14 GMT

the spludge: /* Un Chien Debaser */

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the spludge — Wed, 11 May 2005 22:06:45 GMT

the spludge: /* Legless */

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the spludge — Wed, 11 May 2005 21:58:29 GMT

the spludge: /* Strong Bad referencing Lucky? */

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the spludge — Fri, 22 Apr 2005 22:43:03 GMT

the spludge: /* A legendary voice, you screech? */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
====[[Blue Laser Commander]]====

====A legendary voice, you screech?====

The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral'''So what your saying if 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

*'''Decline.''' He could be saying something like "freakin' crap". --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second''' ----

*'''Wait a minute...''' Wasn't this already STUFF'D? Or am I imagining things? Either way, I decline. I'm pretty sure everyone could guess what Strong Bad was going to type. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:36, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seems pretty out of character (at least in hindsight) for both SB and TBC -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it was deliberate. Remember when Strong Bad shouted, "Screw all y'all!" in [[sb_email 22]]? I wouldn't call it out of character. However, TBC seems to have toned down the just barely borderline vulgar humor since the old emails in order to make the site more kid-friendly. That's just my opinion though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I always understood it as a humorous almost-usage of the F-word. This kind of gag is pretty common, even occurring in G-rated movies such as ''The Lion King'' and ''Finding Nemo''. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Heh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. "Why do I always have to save your AHHHHHHH!" "Don't you all realize we're swimming in our own--" "Shhh!" --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:10, 21 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' TBC have a no swearing policy. Boarderline swears are just jokes. Plus this is a speculatory "fact". The "f" could have been for anything. And "presumably" is just another way to say "may be". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Probably right, but who needs a fun fact to tell them this? It's as useful as saying, "When strongbad does this and this, he's making fun of the grammar in the e-mail."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I agree with Upset Your Balance et al. in that I think it was deliberate, but isn't it pretty obvious? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:35, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Everything is as it was. Not sure why this was removed after just one day of voting. '''NOTE:''' please allow 2 weeks of voting before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Strong Bad almost said the F-word, everyone who knows about the F-word can figure that out we don't need something to tell us about it. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.''' I think what The_Pardack said pretty much summed it up. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It is true that anyone can figure out, but TBC don't usually curse. I think this is the closest we're going to get. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:10, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.
*'''Decline''' I have trouble saying why, but I know there's something wrong with this. Be it that it's part of the haiku, or something else, I don't think this really needs to be stated. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''So cool a Decline, I thought I would Second it.''' This is a parody of the [http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_KLEZ.H&VSect=T Klez] email virus that used the infamous subject line "so cool a flash,enjoy it". It's not meant to imply that Strong Bad has actually read the email beforehand. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 08:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*** That's it. Thanks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 08:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Third.''' It's just part of the song. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:26, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**''''Eh, Decline!''' This is seriously a Klez spoof. I even received a Klez email, and it gave my old computer a virus. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:05, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.
*'''Decline.''' I figure the reference is most likely to Oolong, the traditional Chinese tea enjoyed throughout Asia. The characters mentioned here are named after the tea. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 07:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Always decline TTATO facts! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I would second this if I knew what TTATO stood for. (Second is NOT my vote) [[User:Fizz123|Stave it off, Fizz123, and now you can count to three.]]
**'''Decline.''' TTATO actually is supposed to be spelled TTATOT, and stands for "This, That, And That Other Thing." -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:34, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Sheds a tear''' My own little abbreviation is growing up. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*May be '''declined''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

*DUHHHH! DECLINANATED! [[User:Fizz123|Anonymous Contributor]]
*'''Completely Decline.''' No, seriously. Like, nobody else vote on this. -Walking Armless
*'''Comment.''' Why wasn't this just deleted? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:13 19 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' Never caught that. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:54, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*This is either something blatantly obvious or a supreme stretch. Since TBC aren't commenting either way, it's not worth the dispute. Make up your own damn mind, but don't write it down like it's the truth. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

*'''Decline.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:07, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's also mentioned in [[Everybody to the Limit]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Possibly Decline''' grumble grumble [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.
*'''Not even'''. The first time, as far as I know, was in [[labor day]]. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:23, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Coach Z just kinda barely chuckles in labor day. Are there any other examples of him, well ... actually laughing ... hard? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

*'''Decline''' Wha...? Obviously not! Li'l Brudder is ''supposed'' to look raggety- he was made to make someone cry! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime''' Li'l Brudder pretty much looks the way Strong Bad drew him originally. He looks odd in the skydiving sequence 'cuz he's prolly falling at near terminal velocity! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:44, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Not So Li'l Decline''' Li'l Brudder's the only one that may look "ugly" due to the addition of visible black hairs all over his body and discolored teeth. Tendafoot looks exactly like the two-legged elephant Strong Bad drew, and the Legless Parrot and Human-Nosed Possum look like animated copies of the real animal, just with the aforementioned maladies. I think TBC made Li'l Brudder "uglier" to draw more pity for everybody's favorite go-getter. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Here Comes li'l Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Withdrawn''' I posted this originally, and on closer inspection I agree that Li'l Brudder looks more like Courage the Cowardly Dog than a K C creation. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Late 360 Shove-It To Decline'd!''' I think its unintentional, but kinda true about the "ugly, but cute" part. In spite of that, I also '''Second''' all of the above. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' He looks more like something John Kricfalusi (of the Ren and Stimpy fame) would create. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''No he doesn't.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Restored discussion. Please wait 2 weeks before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I don't see any resemblance. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:29, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Ironically, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.fredastaire.net/music/lyrics/thingsarelookingup.htm link] to the lyrics. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Yea, it's the line "Oh I'm happy as a pup since love looked up at me." But...not that Lil' Brudder's in love or anything...[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Close, but Decline.''' It's just an optimism from someone who has no reason to be optimistic. I doubt that the song popularized the phrase, even if it's old. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's De Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE'D''' It's a far stretch.--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 11:26, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The only way LB can see a thing as he scrapes along is to ... well ... look up! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:18, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' There was a drawing of Lil' Brudder in the Weekly Sketchbook entitled "things are looking up!" It's more likely that they'd be referencing other content on their site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Wait, wasn't that quote also mentioned in [[crying]]? Oh, guess not. DE CLINE!!! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 22:48, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Stretch... Stretch... Stretch... Decline.''' -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:27, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)

===[[impression]]===
====What year is it?====

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.

'''VERDICT:''' This goof has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:impression]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16 Apr 2005
*'''ATTENTION GafAddict and Upset Your Balance and any other VERIDCTers''' - The standard voting period is 2 weeks. Please do not close any items that are newer than that that. In other words, check the first vote, if it's less than two weeks old, DON'T TOUCH IT! Also, if you're going to VERDICT an item, please sign your name and date as though you were signing a vote (two hyphens and four tildes)
**'''I think this one is a special case.''' It was STUFFed based on a false assumption. But I didn't VERDICT it, so... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***GafAddict did a few a day or so ago, and I've seen others get VERDICT'd well before the two week period. Also, whoever does it needs to sign it, so I figured I'd post it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*I have added my name and the date to the verdict. (Yes, it was me.) I'm not sure of the exact time of the verdicting though. And as Jay said, because it was STUFFed based on a false assumption, I put it back and verdicted it early. For other STUFF'd items, the VERDICT shall wait two weeks. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.
*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I think not.''' Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:42, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*"I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be '''accepted!'''" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the ''context'' of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' The Istanbul song is NOT originally TMBG. My google search says it was written in 1953, and it was reasonably popular before TMBG came along.
**'''Comment.''' He comes the [http://www.songlyrics.com/song-lyrics/Four_Lads/Miscellaneous/Istanbul_(not_Constantinople)/147257.html link]! Istanbul (Not Constantinople). Artists: The Four Lads ... peak Billboard position # 10 in 1953 ... Words by Jimmy Kennedy and Music by Nat Simon -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***The question isn't whether TMBG wrote the song (a ''lot'' of cover versions of songs are as popular as or more popular than their original versions, so this too is beside the point), but whether Istanbul is a reasonable reference to TMBG, and if so whether TBC might reasonably be referencing them by choosing Istanbul. On close calls like this, where the two parties have a known relationship and were demonstrably collaborating at the time, is the standard of proof ''really'' "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt|beyond a reasonable doubt]]," or would a "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Balance_of_probabilities|preponderance of the evidence]]" standard apply? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Call me Cletus if'n ya want, but, a single word on a placard does not a reference make! Now, if the sign had Constantinople crossed out with Istanbul written below it, well ... then we're talking reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:21, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Aha! Now ''that's'' an argument that addresses the heart of the issue. Especially the "crossed out" part. Good prize! I'm not going to ''officially'' downgrade my vote above to neutral ('cause I don't think it will matter anyway), but, off the record, my support for including this fact is dwindling (although not gone). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Discount Flashback Warehouse====
In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.
*'''Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants...''' Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster''': After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad ''talks'' like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact '''rephrased:''' In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
*Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? '''Decriminoted (decline).'''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's whay I'm basing the whole thing on.
*'''Decline''' Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of [[theme park]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Comment''' One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of tv.
**SIGN YOUR VOTES! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***"Comment" is not a vote. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* '''D3kl1n3!!''' I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man!''' Um, its also a second with kerrek slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before [[Senor Mortgage]]. Check yer facts, folks. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster:''' Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
**'''Note on the characters:''' Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who ''resembles'' Senor Cardgage. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

'''Verdict:''' After only one week of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly and unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:replacement]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

'''VERDICT:''' This information has been '''moved''' to the [[DELETED]] page. The votes have been moved to [[Talk:spring cleaning]]

===[[rampage]]===

====Poetic chops====
Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochee trochees]), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).

*'''Decline.''' I agree with what you're saying. Also, it's not much of a rampage to be reciting at a rate of 2 syllables per second. However, I don't think anyone learns anything from this fun fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait a '''Second!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny that Strong Sad has to artificially make trochees into iambs, but maybe I'm just a nerd. Anyway, I'm sure not everyone will know this, so accept! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Sign yer vote!
**'''Weak Second to a Strong Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third the Nerd''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''seconding the third''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''seconding the seconding of the third of the...whatever. I agree.''' [[user:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
****'''20x6ing the 1936''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''''
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:56, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
**'''Comment''' There is already a similar fun fact on the page.
*Great jorb!
** Uh... is that a vote? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Absolutely not the case!''' I see what you're saying, but it's not the case. It's just the way he did it to the beat...you wouldn't pronounce it the same if you're doing it to a beat.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' I hate to argue with someone on my side, but: Strong Sad says in the beginning, "Iambic pentameter is where it's at!" so then he proceeds to give a line of iambic pentameter (plus one "ummmmmm" in the middle). Yes it did match the beat, but it would be more accurate to say that the beat followed an iambic metric, and because strong sad rampaged in iambs, he matched the beat (though if he had waited half a beat before starting, he could have matched the rhythm with all trochees)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 01:31, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** Well, this is two unrelated things, and (if it's true) exactly one of them is it, but we don't know which. Not EXACTLY the same thing as my usual "this that and the other thing" complaint -- ''but'' -- it's too much of a stretch in either case without some extra info, so I do have to agree with '''Decline'''-ing it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Barkley and Ruben don't even look alike, much less Strong Sad. 20:52, --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment.''' A little Googling shows that [http://www.luma-electronic.cz/lp/p/Kenny/price_k_walking.htm Kenny Price] was the first Round Mound of Sound, way back in 1969. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Is the SB's insult of the "Round Mound of [something that rhymes with round and mound]" type? Of course it is. Is it notable? Given that the reference has been around for at least 36 years, probably not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:58, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad is round, a mound, gray, and fat. The only thing Strong Bad's insult is a reference to is Strong Sad's appearance. Can you streeeeeeeeetch? -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Round Mound of Decline''' Does "Gray Fatness" rhyme with "Round" and "Mound?" [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Rewrite''' it into something a bit more streamlined. Something like: "'Round Mound of Fatness' is a reference to other characters such as Kenny Price, the 'Round Mound of Sound', and Charles Barkely, the 'Round Mound of Rebound'". I like this Fun Fact, though.
*'''Rewrite'''. When I watched [[rampage]] for the first time, I thought of Charles Barkley. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:30, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Now then, if he was being called "DJ Dazzy Dump", I'd agree that it might also be a reference to jazzy jeff. But that's not what's going on here. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Humpty Hump is a fairly clear reference, I think.
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' Ditch DJ Jazzy Jeff and Doug E. Doug.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' First thing I thought of was Jazzy Jeff... Then again, I'm rap-ly challenged. Humpty Hump for sure. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''A digga. A digga. A diggity-DECLINED! I guess Homestar didn't stop me.''' I can think of another DJ with the same rhythm-Jazze Pha. (Pronounced Jazzy Fay) --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline. White is the color of his face. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' based on the fact that it's common household knowledge (well, some households) as far as white wrapperas and jokes about them go.--[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline''' plus '''side note:''' There already is a fun fact about this on the page. Furthermore, Coach Z is some sort of Canadian/Minnisotan/New Englander/Bostonian white boy himself, and he can rap better than anyone else on the site. In addition, The Brothers Chaps seem to be pretty good at rapping (at least when they write and perform for Coach Z). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline''' Why does the color of a rapper's skin matter? [[User:Fizz123|Someone who does not like racism]]
*'''Decline.''' It's not really like that...I think it's more of a stupid slang word for someone who doesn't rap well...It's been used so much it goes beyond being racist. (which is why Strong Bad can say it.) (So, Fizz123, it's not exactly a racist comment.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* I'm a girl. I don't understand this stuff. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**Please tell me this is sarcasm. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, it is. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:07, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline.''' Number A, this is not interesting or relevant. Number B, how do you know Strong Bad didn't say it like Quiver'd? Quivered and quiver'd would be pronounced the same way. This shouldn't have even been STUFF'd. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**A,B,etc... are not numbers.
***You aren't a regular, are you? -Walking Armless
**Heh... good point on B, mibluvr13. I don't know why that didn't cross my mind when I STUFF'd this. Guess I was just thinking blindly about what was in the transcript without thinking about the actual toon. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*<strike>'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)</strike>
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**I submitted this fun fact because Strong Bad didn't capitalize any other rampages he mentioned, and looking at the phrase capitalized, it kind of looks and sounds like Reading Rainbow, at least alliteratively. It was the first (and so far only) thing that popped into my head as to why it was capitalized. Just wanted to state my case, whether or not it matters. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:26, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Heck no at all.''' This is a stretch and three quarters. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' That's pretty clever, actually! I like it. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Anyway, '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''SEVERE Decline!!!''' Anyone who thinks that is a reference needs to have their brain checked, no offense. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Are you kidding me? There's serious doubt. But not about whether this fact should be '''DECLINE'D!!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' If there's no certainty of the connection, it shouldn't be listed. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''VOTE CHANGE! SECOND!''' That's true, Beatfox. I think the only reason I voted yes before was because it sounded hillarious as a spoof...I mean, Reading Rainbow...Reading Rampage? Hahahahaha! Someone ought to make a flash 'toon about that![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.'''If you do a google search for the phrase "reading rampage", you will see that there are a great many libraries in the U S of A that sponsor reading rampages! Still, I like the way you think. It's a stretch, but clearly you have a good sense of humor :)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*My Land! [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reading+rampage Google] ''does'' show lots & '''lots''' of Reading Rampages going ORRRRF in the USA! This is more that just a stretch. The fact as written is just plain wrong. This is a real-world reference. I'm upgrading my vote to an '''Infinite Decline with a Major Rewrite.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The rules of the STUFF'd page prohibit this type of unverified trivia. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Weak Decline''' I think that although this could be a connection, I think that it's stretching it a little. Strong Bad ''vaguely'' says it like Reading Rainbow in the e-mail, but not so much that it stands out to you. I could see why you'd say this, but I still think that you're probably incorrect. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 4:08 PM, 15 Apr 2005
*'''New Trell''' You do happen to provide sufficient reasoning for the Reading Rainbow reference, but the past comments on Reading Rampages are also... well... I DON'T KNOW. I'M NEUTRAL, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING! ...Yeah [[User:SP'd|SP'd is crazy]]

====Marzipan's Speech Impediment====
Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."
*'''Accept.''' I thought this was a rather unusual observation on a character who's normally very proficient with her speech. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' For once, I think this is legitimate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It sure doesn't sound like "Geoff Chaucerbury" to me! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice this. Very nice. Clap, clap. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Because, uh, why does it need to be in Fun Facts? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' It's noted in the transcript (would be is written twice). --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 01:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' True, but it's not immediately obvious to the casual reader. It could easily be overlooked or mistaken for a typo. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Countercomment''' Dan vs. Jerome was similar in its construct - it was in the transcript but non-obvious. It was declined too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a side of DECLINE!''' Sounded more like a simple flash goof to me. Nothing worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment''' Whatever it is, it's not a glitch. I checked it out in a sound editor. Not only are the two "would be's" unique, they make up one continuous phrase. There's no discontinuity in the waveform, and the tone of voice transitions seamlessly. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' -- I believe it's worth noting on a few counts. First, it's unusual for TBC to make this kind of goof. Second, it verifies what people believe they've heard. Third, it prevents people from trying to read into the dialog what's just not there (e.g. Geoff Chaucerbury). There! I doubt I swayed any of the Decliners, but I've had my say! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept '''but''' Move.''' Given that close analysis of the sound track has revealed that this is an actual occurance and not a glitch, it should be taken as valid, but perhaps would be best left as part of the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:15, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Apparently, some less-informed person decided to correct this "typo" in the transcript. I have restored it and added an HTML comment to ward off such attempts in the future... whatever happened to the comment that was there before? In any case, we should at least have ''something'' on the page to point out this oddity. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Because''' someone changed it to "Chaucerbury", we talked about it, agreed it was wrong, and the person who changed it back didn't put back the comment. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Pie, Anyone?====
"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in [[other days]].
*'''Decline.''' Just because it contains "pie" doesn't necessarily mean it's a reference. And I don't like the "may be". [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I want to accept this, I really do, but there's just not enough there there. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''I can't think of a Decline pun right now''' Well, in my opinion, it's just a play on "The Sky's The Limit." Pie is actually a pretty widely used running gag on H*R, including the pie motivational talks mentioned earlier, piemonade, etc. So if anything, this should be in some other section. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Decline''' Hot soup is on my eye![[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' "The pie's the limit" is a reference to the old saying "The sky's the limit." Strong Bad was just being silly by saying pie instead of sky. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*I don't know why, but when I see "may be" in a fun fact, I can see a kitten dying. '''Declinester''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' That and it violates the guidelines of good fun facts (see top of page). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:16, 17 Apr 2005

====Chicken Soup for the Soul====
One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled Soup, Right?, a reference to the "[[Wikipedia:Chicken Soup for the Soul|Chicken Soup for the Soul]]" book series.
*'''Accept'''I like Chicken Soup! You dang right it's a reference![[User: Umbertowasted|Umbertowasted]]
*'''Decline.''' Stretchy stretchy Stretch Armstrong! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I am sure this is an intentional reference.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I can see this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' They stretch you, and stretch you, and STREEEEEEEETCH you! --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' No more a stretch than the ''For Jerks'' book referencing the ''For Dummies'' ones. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Except that "Soup, Right?" doesn't sound at all like Chicken Soup for the Soul, whereas "(Topic) for Jerks" is just like "(Topic) for Dummies".
*'''Decline.''' Soup, Right? could be short for "Soup Done Right" or something like that. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No way, Lucy.''' Sharing one word doesn't make it a reference. Seriously, people, you're not even trying anymore. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' You're stretching! Like RB said: It's only sharing ONE word!! Come on, people!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Not trying? Seems more like they're trying too hard. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Delete.''' There's not way that that is a reference. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I based my vote based on the fact that the books Strong Bad is reading are meant to sound like advice books. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DELORTED!''' That almost definitely doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying "Sweatshirtguy" is a reference to Rocky.
*'''Insert witty DECLINE comment here''' MAJOR STRETCH! Just cause they share the same word doesn't mean they're related. Wow. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second.''' Totally unsupported theory. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:18, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Accept''' Definately a reference
**'''Sign teh vote!''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 00:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**"Definately" not. '''DECLINED''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:56, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Inclined to Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' While we're at it, "Biscuit" is a reference to "Seabiscuit."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Are you sure you didn't want to type decline? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:37, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I meant accept. Try to name other bestsellers with the words "soup" or "biscuit" in them. It seems clear to me that the titles aren't just random--they're either references to real books, real things (brown story), or HR references. The only thing that seems random to me is Strong Mad's waffle, which reads "BUG."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:18, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***I'm not convinced. It's still one word, and both words happen to be kinds of food. And I, for one, didn't even know "Seabiscuit" was a book til you mentioned it. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 00:06, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***FYI, the book "Seabiscuit" was a major bestseller even before the movie came out.
****Excuuuuse me, Princess, for being a disaffected youth. I haven't picked up anything worth reading since Hitchhiker trilogy. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And, rsl12, you're basing your crackpot theory on the fact that the words soup and biscuit appear in SBemails? Sorry, wrong. You're an idiot. Good-bye.-- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Goodbye. Hope you don't come back. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 13:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Okay, okay, enough with the insults. Agree to disagree. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I'll stop, but I don't like how some people can totally go blind in saying someone has no manners for STUFFing a fun fact. Either way, my vote is upgraded to '''Severe Decline/Delete.'''--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:11, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====It's a Bird, it's a Plane, it's Pie???====

"The pie's the limit" is a reference to the quote, "The sky is the limit," which is found on Thorax Corporation's website.

*'''Decline-erson''' Not only is this fact too obvious, but "The sky is the limit" is a cliché, and is not exclusive to Throax.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Well look who thinks he's Clever Dan. Wait, you're wrong, it's a reference to the Notorious B.I.G., he made a song called "Sky's the Limit" so he must've copyrighted the phrase!!!!111one Ugh...
*'''Decline x999''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Piecline.''' Sorry, that's the best I can do with this one. Why wasn't this just deleted? --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Because I wanted to make sure it wasnt just my oppinion that this stunk.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Looks like you're not alone on this one! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Re: why this wasn't just deleted: there's a lot of fun facts on these transcripts that should just be disposed of promptly. This one I agree with. But then again, if we did that, there wouldn't be a STUFF page. And by the way, I also '''decline.''' -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:46, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE-ED!''' The sky is the limit is a popular phrase. Just because it's found on the Thorax Corp's website doesn't make it a reference. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' It's probably a reference to DNA and cloning. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:24, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* You obviously put a lot of work into this one, but unfortunately, I must '''Decrine.''' As said by other folks above, it's a reference to cloning from DNA. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept.''' This is a FUN FACT! Mind you, I highly doubt this is what TBC were trying to reference, but my life has been enriched by reading this. I would suggest rewriting it, however, to say "There is a story in Nordic mythology in which the Aesir (war gods)...." This way, there's no suggestion that TBC was trying to reference this fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No way does this work. The whole joke is based on the popular misconseption of what cloning is. Clones are genetic twins, not exact duplicates with the same minds, thoughts, and memories of the original. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:21, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline.''' This is NOT a fun fact. This is barely a fact. Why wasn't this one just deleted? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:24, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Severe Decline!''' First times are somewhat interesting, second times are not, and third times are hazardous to your health.
*'''Declination Nation.''' No offense, man. I mean, you should get credit for trying, but it's just, well, boring. No one cares.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declorned.''' Nobody cares about thirds, or even seconds. First's are okay (mostly). But back to the subject, this is not a worth fun fact. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' This is just a continuation of one of the site's longest running gags: none of the characters have a normal physiology. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:27, 17 Apr 2005

===[[Fhqwhgads]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]

'''VERDICT:''' This item was closed on request by the author. See below for a new version of this fun fact. Voting moved to [[Talk:Fhqwhgads]]--[[User:-erson|<nowiki>Posted by </nowiki>-erson]] 01:27, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The joke theory====
- (An outcome of "Not Expecting")
- It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Still Decline''' Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''2nd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting ''all'' such claims; we're only concerned here with ''this'' case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it ''doesn't'' set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with ''the'' fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads -TK
*Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline-erson''' Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still '''Decline'''. --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
**'''Comment.''' The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is impossible to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Which is why "claimed" is used...look you gous are missing the point...the point is it wasn't based on the virus, not that I know Fwh. Besides, if proof is all you guys seem to care about, what "proof" do we have that it WAS based on the virus?[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:45, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno, maybe the large Scare that passed during the same time this email was released? It could be an influence considering it wason every news station across the land. I mean honestly... And note: in order for it to be a fun '''fact''', it needs proof. Its not a fact without it! --[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.'''You're right. There is no proof. Frankly, I think the "virus" theory should be deleted/stuff-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No proof, no fun fact in my opinion. If it requires furthur input, then let me say this. If it were me who sent the e-mail, I wouldn't go off and register a new AIM, e-mail or whatever, I'd just keep my own. However, I do disagree with the number theory. Maybe the numbers had significance. But anyway, there's no way to prove it so it can't be claimed a fact. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:date]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:04, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:the show]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:15, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .

''After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the [[Talk:suntan|talk page]] of suntan.

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:local news]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, the majority of votes said to '''Decline''' this fact outright. Discussion moved to [[Talk:brianrietta]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:59, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:56, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was voted to be '''Moved''' from Goofs to Remarks on [[long pants]]. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[techno]]===
====Silent J====
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:techno]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless
*'''Rewrite and accept.''' The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The answering machine could have been referring to a "Corey", or "Cori", not neccessarily "Cory".
*'''Most Likely Declined''' Your geekdar is overly sensitive, when was the last time you had an expert look at it? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' According to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Mr._Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]] was introduced in 1944. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment.''' My bad - I didn't realize he was THAT old. Curse the internet for diseminating false information! In any case, I still think he's an amalgam of Mxyzptlk, Gazoo, Q, and Riddler - but then we get into TTATOT territory. Still, with this being an OBVIOUS Hanna Barbera parody, I think Gazoo should take precedence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:54, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Yep. Yep. Yeap. Second.''' -Walking Armless
**'''Threecond.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*...urge to kill...rising... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Oh please... are you surfing HR.com randomly looking for things to correlate? '''Decline!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Segundo.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It's not even worth it to be sarcastic. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted. It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item. It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

'''Vredict:''' This fact was voted to be '''Rewritten and Moved'''. The revised fact now appears on [[best thing]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold was in question)

'''Verdict:''' After about a month of voting, the fact in bold was narrowly '''declined''' by a score of 2-3. The Star Trek reference has been put back on [[best thing]], while the entire discussion can be found on [[Talk:best thing]]. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:colonization]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:dragon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

-Edited by [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]. (Link was to [[rock opera]], not dragon)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact recieved a single '''Decline''' vote. Discussion moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Where's The Cheat?]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== You killed Pom-Pom! ====
When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"

*'''Decline''' Uh...no. "Storng" Bad was just trying to scare Marzipan with a crank call. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unmatchable Decline''' Spell right, blast ye! -Walking Armless
*'''Delcine.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*You may be a reference to the superfluousness of the Shift Key... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Indelible Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' First thing, this was disqualified with the "may be." Second off, no flippin' way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move?''' Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move.''' Substituting 'm' for 'n' may be a running gag... Leomard Sportsinterviews, anyone? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:28, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk: Kick the Can]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' by a score of 4-6. Discussion moved to [[Talk:other days]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:27, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:other days]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

'''VERDICT:''' This fun fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:20, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]
*'''I decline thee! *smack*''' Homsar came back after being crushed by Heavy Lourde. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 16:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' If you applied this to TGS, they wouldn't have lasted 8 issues! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They probably decided on "frickin'" for the same reason Fricker's did: it sounds like "chicken". --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.frickers.com/locations.asp Frickin'] link!
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_4]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Decemberween_Teen_Girl_Squad]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Fatty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.
*'''Decline.''' The names look the same. The characters do not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''OT Comment (wasn't sure where to put this).''' Tomstiff, when you make an edit, you might want to try writing your summary after the asterisk-slash rather than before it. Otherwise, when you click on the entry's arrow on the history page, it won't take you to the proper section on the (rather lengthy) STUFF page. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Big Fat Decline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*"insert-random-flash-only-you-know-about" is not a valid source for TBC to reference. '''Hup Hup, Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:32, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:15, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
*** anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

'''VERDICT''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted. It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:2 years]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:2 years]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

'''Verdict:''' After several months of voting, this fact was narrowly '''Accepted''' by a score of 3-2. The fact is now on [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:48, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

'''Verdict:''' After many weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on [[animal]], and the discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dr. Decline.''' An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*'''<strike>Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Revise Slightly.''' "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg." Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

*'''Accept.''' It says "ages 3-5" quite clearly at the bottom right of each action figure package. Why was this STUFF-ed? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag. <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either. <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept'''. Very noteworthy. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite''' Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most legible thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most intelligible thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from [http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode23.htm#3 Scott of the Sahara]...Rewrite! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I'm assuming this message was made in response to [[homsar]] to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed". Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now. I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
**Not to super nitpick, but the best word to use would probably be "sensible", since intelligible is just the ability to say words and sentences. He says stuff just fine, it just never makes any sense. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 03:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''"That's a real popular song! Who want's to hear that it's ACCEPTED!"''' Yep, I think this is a good point! Great job! *claps*--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Same thing that GillanTheVillain said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:31, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Why was this STUFF'd? It's demonstrably true, and it's something most people wouldn't notice just by watching the 'toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''2nd''' place. Ding! --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Games==
===[[Thy Dungeonman]]===
====Earthbound====
Dungeonman might be a reference to Brick Road from "Earthbound," who was attempting to attain the title of "Dungeonman" throughout the course of the game.
*'''Decline''' Why, you ask? Let me explain the Dungeonman of Earthbound for a minute. The man attempts to MAKE dungeons, and in the end BECOMES a dungeon - which is not the same as Thy Dungeonman, who merely EXPLORES dungeons. And with no other connection, I can't let this one sit without a vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*(drops potato sacks) NO, IT'S NOT. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
*'''Fhqwdlcinds''' So??? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So, rather dashing's real name name is Julio. Good catch! Just '''revise''' it so that its a little more obvious. Try:
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in
Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Me Declino Infinito.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''REWRITE'D!''' I was the one who wrote the thing anyway, so I rewrote it with -erson-san's suggestion. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline the new one too''' It's still useless, and perhaps now moreso - are we next going to say that his name is Misspeller Jones? (Type "get plague" near the lantern.) It's a joke. Just go with it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' But, it might NOT be. Geez, why does everyone always decline everything around here? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:45, 16 Apr 2005
*** Oh, wait, what was that word? "Might"? As in, you're not certain? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But the fact that Rather Dashing is saying "Me llamo Julio" as a conversation starter to the Kerrek would be a different case. Do you ever say "Hello my name is..." and mention an incorrect name? And about the "Misspeller Jones", is it not common for people to make up nicknames for people about their different characteristics? Like you call a clumbsy person "Butterfingers" even though his real name is Bob, or a bad typist "Misspeller Jones" even though his real name is Julio? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:34, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****It sounds to me like the sort of thing you'd find in the first five pages of a beginners' Spanish textbook, and without otherwise knowing what to say to the Kerrek, he just rambled relative nonsense. We know his real name, and it's not Julio. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******We dont ''know'' that his real name is Rather Dashing, the character doesn't actually say it himself. Just the narrator. And whos more likely to know his own name, the narrator or Rather Dashing? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*******So, at the end of the game, the NARRATOR tells Trogdor (who repeats it - in voice acting!) that his name is Rather Dashing? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
********Sorry, I never played to the end of the game. But honeslty, what are the odds that if he was talking nonsence he would utter a phrase that just happens to be a very popular opening statement when meeting new people? And, there is no where in the game where it tells you Rather Dashing can't speak Spanish. Perhaps he though Kerrek spoke spanish.
*********Yes, I just double-checked the ending. The narration says "You scream that your name is Rather Dashing", followed by a long speech with a computer voice reading along (a direct quote by Trogdor), ending in "It will be a pleasure to burninate you, Rather Dashing." One random piece of text may give small credence to your theory that RD's real name is Julio, but the entire rest of the game contradicts it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Perhaps a rewrite than to indiciate that Rather Dashing's name may be Julio according to that text?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I don't think Fun Facts is a place for theories that "may be" true based on a possible interpretation of one statement. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yet Another Comment.''' We all know that "rather dashing" is a term meaning you're good-looking. Maybe he just calls himself that because he thinks he's, well, good-looking. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:41, 17 Apr 2005 (EST)
*How do we know he just didn't read that off of a Spanish textbook? It's just as much speculation to say that Rather Dashing CAN speak Spanish as it is to say he can't. Can't you just accept that this is random TBC humor? Seriously, this is a bigger stretch than Dhalsim. '''Me llamo decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment Numero Tres.''' Look, we're never going to get anywhere like this, and I'm sick of the arguments. Someone lock this thing, PLEASE. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:53, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Throughout all of the Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer, Rather Dashing is referred to as ... Rather Dashing. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Black Spots====
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

the spludge — Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:05:34 GMT

the spludge: /* So cool an unseen email */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

*'''Decline.''' He could be saying something like "freakin' crap". --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait a minute...''' Wasn't this already STUFF'D? Or am I imagining things? Either way, I decline. I'm pretty sure everyone could guess what Strong Bad was going to type. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:36, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seems pretty out of character (at least in hindsight) for both SB and TBC -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it was deliberate. Remember when Strong Bad shouted, "Screw all y'all!" in [[sb_email 22]]? I wouldn't call it out of character. However, TBC seems to have toned down the just barely borderline vulgar humor since the old emails in order to make the site more kid-friendly. That's just my opinion though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I always understood it as a humorous almost-usage of the F-word. This kind of gag is pretty common, even occurring in G-rated movies such as ''The Lion King'' and ''Finding Nemo''. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' TBC have a no swearing policy. Boarderline swears are just jokes. Plus this is a speculatory "fact". The "f" could have been for anything. And "presumably" is just another way to say "may be". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.
*'''Decline''' I have trouble saying why, but I know there's something wrong with this. Be it that it's part of the haiku, or something else, I don't think this really needs to be stated. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''So cool a Decline, I thought I would Second it.''' This is a parody of the [http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_KLEZ.H&VSect=T Klez] email virus that used the infamous subject line "so cool a flash,enjoy it". It's not meant to imply that Strong Bad has actually read the email beforehand. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 08:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*** That's it. Thanks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 08:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**''''Eh, Decline!''' This is seriously a Klez spoof. I even received a Klez email, and it gave my old computer a virus. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:05, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.
*'''Decline.''' I figure the reference is most likely to Oolong, the traditional Chinese tea enjoyed throughout Asia. The characters mentioned here are named after the tea. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 07:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Always decline TTATO facts! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I would second this if I knew what TTATO stood for. (Second is NOT my vote) [[User:Fizz123|Stave it off, Fizz123, and now you can count to three.]]
**'''Decline.''' TTATO actually is supposed to be spelled TTATOT, and stands for "This, That, And That Other Thing." -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:34, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*There's already a section for [[rampage]]. Put this in there. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

*'''Decline''' Wha...? Obviously not! Li'l Brudder is ''supposed'' to look raggety- he was made to make someone cry! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime''' Li'l Brudder pretty much looks the way Strong Bad drew him originally. He looks odd in the skydiving sequence 'cuz he's prolly falling at near terminal velocity! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:44, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Not So Li'l Decline''' Li'l Brudder's the only one that may look "ugly" due to the addition of visible black hairs all over his body and discolored teeth. Tendafoot looks exactly like the two-legged elephant Strong Bad drew, and the Legless Parrot and Human-Nosed Possum look like animated copies of the real animal, just with the aforementioned maladies. I think TBC made Li'l Brudder "uglier" to draw more pity for everybody's favorite go-getter. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Withdrawn''' I posted this originally, and on closer inspection I agree that Li'l Brudder looks more like Courage the Cowardly Dog than a K C creation. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Late 360 Shove-It To Decline'd!''' I think its unintentional, but kinda true about the "ugly, but cute" part. In spite of that, I also '''Second''' all of the above. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' He looks more like something John Kricfalusi (of the Ren and Stimpy fame) would create. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''No he doesn't.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[impression]]===
====What year is it?====

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.

'''VERDICT:''' This goof has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:impression]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16 Apr 2005
*'''ATTENTION GafAddict and Upset Your Balance and any other VERIDCTers''' - The standard voting period is 2 weeks. Please do not close any items that are newer than that that. In other words, check the first vote, if it's less than two weeks old, DON'T TOUCH IT! Also, if you're going to VERDICT an item, please sign your name and date as though you were signing a vote (two hyphens and four tildes)
**'''I think this one is a special case.''' It was STUFFed based on a false assumption. But I didn't VERDICT it, so... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***GafAddict did a few a day or so ago, and I've seen others get VERDICT'd well before the two week period. Also, whoever does it needs to sign it, so I figured I'd post it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*I have added my name and the date to the verdict. (Yes, it was me.) I'm not sure of the exact time of the verdicting though. And as Jay said, because it was STUFFed based on a false assumption, I put it back and verdicted it early. For other STUFF'd items, the VERDICT shall wait two weeks. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.
*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I think not.''' Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:42, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*"I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be '''accepted!'''" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the ''context'' of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' The Istanbul song is NOT originally TMBG. My google search says it was written in 1953, and it was reasonably popular before TMBG came along.
**'''Comment.''' He comes the [http://www.songlyrics.com/song-lyrics/Four_Lads/Miscellaneous/Istanbul_(not_Constantinople)/147257.html link]! Istanbul (Not Constantinople). Artists: The Four Lads ... peak Billboard position # 10 in 1953 ... Words by Jimmy Kennedy and Music by Nat Simon -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Discount Flashback Warehouse====
In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.
*'''Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants...''' Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster''': After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad ''talks'' like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact '''rephrased:''' In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
*Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? '''Decriminoted (decline).'''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's whay I'm basing the whole thing on.
*'''Decline''' Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of [[theme park]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Comment''' One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of tv.
**SIGN YOUR VOTES! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***"Comment" is not a vote. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* '''D3kl1n3!!''' I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man!''' Um, its also a second with kerrek slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before [[Senor Mortgage]]. Check yer facts, folks. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster:''' Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
**'''Note on the characters:''' Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who ''resembles'' Senor Cardgage. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

'''Verdict:''' After only one week of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly and unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:replacement]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

'''VERDICT:''' This information has been '''moved''' to the [[DELETED]] page. The votes have been moved to [[Talk:spring cleaning]]

===[[rampage]]===

====Poetic chops====
Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochee trochees]), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).

*'''Decline.''' I agree with what you're saying. Also, it's not much of a rampage to be reciting at a rate of 2 syllables per second. However, I don't think anyone learns anything from this fun fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait a '''Second!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny that Strong Sad has to artificially make trochees into iambs, but maybe I'm just a nerd. Anyway, I'm sure not everyone will know this, so accept! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Sign yer vote!
**'''Weak Second to a Strong Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third the Nerd''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''seconding the third''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''seconding the seconding of the third of the...whatever. I agree.''' [[user:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
****'''20x6ing the 1936''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''''
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:56, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
**'''Comment''' There is already a similar fun fact on the page.
*Great jorb!
** Uh... is that a vote? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** Well, this is two unrelated things, and (if it's true) exactly one of them is it, but we don't know which. Not EXACTLY the same thing as my usual "this that and the other thing" complaint -- ''but'' -- it's too much of a stretch in either case without some extra info, so I do have to agree with '''Decline'''-ing it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Barkley and Ruben don't even look alike, much less Strong Sad. 20:52, --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment.''' A little Googling shows that [http://www.luma-electronic.cz/lp/p/Kenny/price_k_walking.htm Kenny Price] was the first Round Mound of Sound, way back in 1969. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Is the SB's insult of the "Round Mound of [something that rhymes with round and mound]" type? Of course it is. Is it notable? Given that the reference has been around for at least 36 years, probably not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:58, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad is round, a mound, gray, and fat. The only thing Strong Bad's insult is a reference to is Strong Sad's appearance. Can you streeeeeeeeetch? -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Round Mound of Decline''' Does "Gray Fatness" rhyme with "Round" and "Mound?" [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Rewrite''' it into something a bit more streamlined. Something like: "'Round Mound of Fatness' is a reference to other characters such as Kenny Price, the 'Round Mound of Sound', and Charles Barkely, the 'Round Mound of Rebound'". I like this Fun Fact, though.

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Now then, if he was being called "DJ Dazzy Dump", I'd agree that it might also be a reference to jazzy jeff. But that's not what's going on here. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Humpty Hump is a fairly clear reference, I think.
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' Ditch DJ Jazzy Jeff and Doug E. Doug.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' First thing I thought of was Jazzy Jeff... Then again, I'm rap-ly challenged. Humpty Hump for sure. [[User:SP|SP]]

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline. White is the color of his face. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' based on the fact that it's common household knowledge (well, some households) as far as white wrapperas and jokes about them go.--[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline''' plus '''side note:''' There already is a fun fact about this on the page. Furthermore, Coach Z is some sort of Canadian/Minnisotan/New Englander/Bostonian white boy himself, and he can rap better than anyone else on the site. In addition, The Brothers Chaps seem to be pretty good at rapping (at least when they write and perform for Coach Z). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline''' Why does the color of a rapper's skin matter? [[User:Fizz123|Someone who does not like racism]]

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:07, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline.''' Number A, this is not interesting or relevant. Number B, how do you know Strong Bad didn't say it like Quiver'd? Quivered and quiver'd would be pronounced the same way. This shouldn't have even been STUFF'd. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**A,B,etc... are not numbers.
***You aren't a regular, are you? -Walking Armless
**Heh... good point on B, mibluvr13. I don't know why that didn't cross my mind when I STUFF'd this. Guess I was just thinking blindly about what was in the transcript without thinking about the actual toon. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*<strike>'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)</strike>
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**I submitted this fun fact because Strong Bad didn't capitalize any other rampages he mentioned, and looking at the phrase capitalized, it kind of looks and sounds like Reading Rainbow, at least alliteratively. It was the first (and so far only) thing that popped into my head as to why it was capitalized. Just wanted to state my case, whether or not it matters. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:26, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Heck no at all.''' This is a stretch and three quarters. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' That's pretty clever, actually! I like it. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Anyway, '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''SEVERE Decline!!!''' Anyone who thinks that is a reference needs to have their brain checked, no offense. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Are you kidding me? There's serious doubt. But not about whether this fact should be '''DECLINE'D!!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' If there's no certainty of the connection, it shouldn't be listed. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''VOTE CHANGE! SECOND!''' That's true, Beatfox. I think the only reason I voted yes before was because it sounded hillarious as a spoof...I mean, Reading Rainbow...Reading Rampage? Hahahahaha! Someone ought to make a flash 'toon about that![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.'''If you do a google search for the phrase "reading rampage", you will see that there are a great many libraries in the U S of A that sponsor reading rampages! Still, I like the way you think. It's a stretch, but clearly you have a good sense of humor :)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*My Land! [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reading+rampage Google] ''does'' show lots & '''lots''' of Reading Rampages going ORRRRF in the USA! This is more that just a stretch. The fact as written is just plain wrong. This is a real-world reference. I'm upgrading my vote to an '''Infinite Decline with a Major Rewrite.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The rules of the STUFF'd page prohibit this type of unverified trivia. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Weak Decline''' I think that although this could be a connection, I think that it's stretching it a little. Strong Bad ''vaguely'' says it like Reading Rainbow in the e-mail, but not so much that it stands out to you. I could see why you'd say this, but I still think that you're probably incorrect. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 4:08 PM, 15 Apr 2005
*'''New Trell''' You do happen to provide sufficient reasoning for the Reading Rainbow reference, but the past comments on Reading Rampages are also... well... I DON'T KNOW. I'M NEUTRAL, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING! ...Yeah [[User:SP'd|SP'd is crazy]]

====Marzipan's Speech Impediment====
Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."
*'''Accept.''' I thought this was a rather unusual observation on a character who's normally very proficient with her speech. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' For once, I think this is legitimate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It sure doesn't sound like "Geoff Chaucerbury" to me! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice this. Very nice. Clap, clap. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Because, uh, why does it need to be in Fun Facts? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' It's noted in the transcript (would be is written twice). --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 01:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' True, but it's not immediately obvious to the casual reader. It could easily be overlooked or mistaken for a typo. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Countercomment''' Dan vs. Jerome was similar in its construct - it was in the transcript but non-obvious. It was declined too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a side of DECLINE!''' Sounded more like a simple flash goof to me. Nothing worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment''' Whatever it is, it's not a glitch. I checked it out in a sound editor. Not only are the two "would be's" unique, they make up one continuous phrase. There's no discontinuity in the waveform, and the tone of voice transitions seamlessly. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' -- I believe it's worth noting on a few counts. First, it's unusual for TBC to make this kind of goof. Second, it verifies what people believe they've heard. Third, it prevents people from trying to read into the dialog what's just not there (e.g. Geoff Chaucerbury). There! I doubt I swayed any of the Decliners, but I've had my say! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept '''but''' Move.''' Given that close analysis of the sound track has revealed that this is an actual occurance and not a glitch, it should be taken as valid, but perhaps would be best left as part of the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:15, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Apparently, some less-informed person decided to correct this "typo" in the transcript. I have restored it and added an HTML comment to ward off such attempts in the future... whatever happened to the comment that was there before? In any case, we should at least have ''something'' on the page to point out this oddity. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Because''' someone changed it to "Chaucerbury", we talked about it, agreed it was wrong, and the person who changed it back didn't put back the comment. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Pie, Anyone?====
"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in [[other days]].
*'''Decline.''' Just because it contains "pie" doesn't necessarily mean it's a reference. And I don't like the "may be". [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I want to accept this, I really do, but there's just not enough there there. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''I can't think of a Decline pun right now''' Well, in my opinion, it's just a play on "The Sky's The Limit." Pie is actually a pretty widely used running gag on H*R, including the pie motivational talks mentioned earlier, piemonade, etc. So if anything, this should be in some other section. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Decline''' Hot soup is on my eye![[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' "The pie's the limit" is a reference to the old saying "The sky's the limit." Strong Bad was just being silly by saying pie instead of sky. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*I don't know why, but when I see "may be" in a fun fact, I can see a kitten dying. '''Declinester''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' That and it violates the guidelines of good fun facts (see top of page). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:16, 17 Apr 2005

====Chicken Soup for the Soul====
One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled Soup, Right?, a reference to the "[[Wikipedia:Chicken Soup for the Soul|Chicken Soup for the Soul]]" book series.
*'''Accept'''I like Chicken Soup! You dang right it's a reference![[User: Umbertowasted|Umbertowasted]]
*'''Decline.''' Stretchy stretchy Stretch Armstrong! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I am sure this is an intentional reference.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I can see this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' They stretch you, and stretch you, and STREEEEEEEETCH you! --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' No more a stretch than the ''For Jerks'' book referencing the ''For Dummies'' ones. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Except that "Soup, Right?" doesn't sound at all like Chicken Soup for the Soul, whereas "(Topic) for Jerks" is just like "(Topic) for Dummies".
*'''Decline.''' Soup, Right? could be short for "Soup Done Right" or something like that. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No way, Lucy.''' Sharing one word doesn't make it a reference. Seriously, people, you're not even trying anymore. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' You're stretching! Like RB said: It's only sharing ONE word!! Come on, people!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Not trying? Seems more like they're trying too hard. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Delete.''' There's not way that that is a reference. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I based my vote based on the fact that the books Strong Bad is reading are meant to sound like advice books. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DELORTED!''' That almost definitely doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying "Sweatshirtguy" is a reference to Rocky.
*'''Insert witty DECLINE comment here''' MAJOR STRETCH! Just cause they share the same word doesn't mean they're related. Wow. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second.''' Totally unsupported theory. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:18, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Accept''' Definately a reference
**'''Sign teh vote!''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 00:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**"Definately" not. '''DECLINED''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:56, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Inclined to Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accept.''' While we're at it, "Biscuit" is a reference to "Seabiscuit."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Are you sure you didn't want to type decline? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:37, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====It's a Bird, it's a Plane, it's Pie???====

"The pie's the limit" is a reference to the quote, "The sky is the limit," which is found on Thorax Corporation's website.

*'''Decline-erson''' Not only is this fact too obvious, but "The sky is the limit" is a cliché, and is not exclusive to Throax.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Well look who thinks he's Clever Dan. Wait, you're wrong, it's a reference to the Notorious B.I.G., he made a song called "Sky's the Limit" so he must've copyrighted the phrase!!!!111one Ugh... '''Decline x999''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Piecline.''' Sorry, that's the best I can do with this one. Why wasn't this just deleted? --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Because I wanted to make sure it wasnt just my oppinion that this stunk.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Looks like you're not alone on this one! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' It's probably a reference to DNA and cloning. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:24, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* You obviously put a lot of work into this one, but unfortunately, I must '''Decrine.''' As said by other folks above, it's a reference to cloning from DNA. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept.''' This is a FUN FACT! Mind you, I highly doubt this is what TBC were trying to reference, but my life has been enriched by reading this. I would suggest rewriting it, however, to say "There is a story in Nordic mythology in which the Aesir (war gods)...." This way, there's no suggestion that TBC was trying to reference this fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No way does this work. The whole joke is based on the popular misconseption of what cloning is. Clones are genetic twins, not exact duplicates with the same minds, thoughts, and memories of the original. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:21, 17 Apr 2005

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:24, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Severe Decline!''' First times are somewhat interesting, second times are not, and third times are hazardous to your health.
*'''Declination Nation.''' No offense, man. I mean, you should get credit for trying, but it's just, well, boring. No one cares.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' This is just a continuation of one of the site's longest running gags: none of the characters have a normal physiology. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:27, 17 Apr 2005

===[[Fhqwhgads]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]

'''VERDICT:''' This item was closed on request by the author. See below for a new version of this fun fact. Voting moved to [[Talk:Fhqwhgads]]--[[User:-erson|<nowiki>Posted by </nowiki>-erson]] 01:27, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The joke theory====
- (An outcome of "Not Expecting")
- It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Still Decline''' Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''2nd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting ''all'' such claims; we're only concerned here with ''this'' case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it ''doesn't'' set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with ''the'' fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads -TK
*Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline-erson''' Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still '''Decline'''. --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
**'''Comment.''' The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is impossible to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".

*'''Decline.''' Close, but no cigar. It doesn't even use the Ren & Stimpy font. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Weak Second.''' Hmmm... but I don't really see how this would be a fun fact... [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:28, 8 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''decline.exe''' Seriously, if this was any more of a stretch, it could reach Mars. ... Yeah, that was bad. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:44, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DOUBLE DECLINE!!!''' Along with "seconding" with the above, I was a die-hard Ren & Stimpy fan when they still showed it, and I don't remember anything vaguely remotely relating to the sim. Even if there was, it's more of a stretch than Silly Putty . [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:21, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.
*'''Comment.''' I stuffed this because it's very much in question whether Homestar has invisible "arms" or some other way to "hold" objects. Opinions? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Because it wasn't clear in my previous comment. Anyway, I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. He doesn't have any arm holes in his shirt and the other characters call him armless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 12:56, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' You could add this fact to any toon or email which features Homestar manipulating an object. Hopefully, we won't. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' In how many other toons does homestar appear to be handling more objects than could be reasonably handled using two arms? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:52, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**[[time capsule]] is another example. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:55, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Hmm....even so, it's one of those things that's not very obvious. If it happened all the time, that'd be one thing, but if it doesn't happen that often, I think it's worth noting.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:02, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!''' "Another one of those times"? For shame! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Dear Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This is one of the best Fun Facts I've seen (I'm talking about the original Fun Fact, not that boxing gloves mention). Half glitch, half major insight into the Homestar universe. Definitely a keeper.
**Sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**'''Second.''' -- One of the better ones for sure! [[User:smoothmedia|smoothmedia]]
*'''F--''' Does everything in the Homstarrunner.com world make perfect sense? Heck no at all. I think the fact that his arms are invisible in the first place is pretty weird. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dcline''' I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. It just... floats. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:14, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I'm thinkin' Homestar's like VeggieTales. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 21:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Aren't fun facts supposed to be fun? This is... just silly. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:37, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise, move''' This seems like it is worth pointing out about Homestar, but if this really a common occurence(I never really thought of it before, does Marzipan ever do this?) that it should be mentioned on his character page. The reason I think this falls under fun facts is that it's unexpected and hard to notice as a result. It's easy to assume when you see Homestar holding something without hands that he essentially has invisible arms. Occurences like this supplant that notion. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Based on what people are saying, it sounds like it's not a common occurence. Only in two episodes (to my knowledge) has this been an issue: this one and [[time capsule]]. It wasn't obvious to me on watching either episode, and I'm glad someone is pointing this out!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Buleeted''' May I remind you? Is marsipan a broom? Yo strongbad, How do you type with boxing gloves on? Where is Pom pom's mouth? You are one of these people now. Muhahahaha. [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]
**'''Second.''' Too technical. But people, please stop picking on him. You're being a little harsh. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' We SHOULD mention on Marzipan's character page that she looks like a broom, and on Strong Bad's page that he types with boxing gloves on, and on Homestar's page that he has no arms, etc. Just because these are issues/questions that TBC refuses to explain (yet), doesn't make issues like Homestar's strange arm-mechanics unworthy of mention. The proposed fun fact is centrally relevant to one of the main mysteries on the site. It also sheds new light on the issue by refuting a common interpretation (that Homestar has two invisible arms). It's less similar to "Strong Bad typing with boxing gloves on" as it is to "Strong bad typing with boxing gloves on and without touching the keyboard". It adds a new layer to an age-old Homestar Runner question. - Dingell
*Homestar has no arms, invisible or other wise. He simply manipulates objects. Nobody knows how, because thats the joke. Trying to apply logic to it only ruins the fun.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Accept'''- it seems that this is reasonable. [[User:computerdude33|computerdude33]]
**'''Accept''' When I see Homestar, I presume that if he has ANY "Invisible Arms", He would have two. --[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 20:21, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Donny, I couldn't have said it any better. High-ball! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:52, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .

''After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the [[Talk:suntan|talk page]] of suntan.

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:local news]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''
*'''Revise''': This is an interesting fact, but I think that the part in bold is a bit unecessary. After all, this is a knowledge base, not a place for rants. If you wanted to put something like this, I suggest doing it in the forum. Besides, this is easily infered from reading the transcript. I think that the part in bold needs to be deleted, and the rest added back into the Fun Facts. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' I assume this is an '''Accept'''. Please sign your vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' This is hardly a rant. I don't think the statement loses anything by removing the "offending" clause, however. I ''would'' change "this is the only reference" to "this is one of the few references". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' But this ''is'' the only reference to homosexuality on the site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 12:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' It's ''currently'' the only reference on the site. For all we know, the entire cast will be outed tomorrow and it will become the ''first'' reference among many. The guidelines for this section says that facts that become easily dated are bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' In fact, I just convinced myself that it should say "This is the first reference" -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment:'''I'm just saying that it seems like a rant to me, and it's rather unecessary (The part in bold, that is). --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' A rant against who? Tough Guys? The comment says that SB handles the situation "maturely". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Accept.''' I think it's fine the way it is.</strike> '''Decline.''' Changed my mind, the point that it's the only reference to homosexuality on H*R is debatable and may possibly change, so the fact doesn't have much of a point to it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The ONLY reference? What about in the new [[HomestarTalker|Homestar Talker]]? "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad Are Totally Going Out!" We know Strong Bad is a guy, and Pom-Pom is called '''"he"''' many times throughout the site. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Response''' Maybe "going out" just means they're going someplace together, like to a movie or something. It's possible for guys to do stuff together without it being "gay." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Wow... so many comments, but very few people willing to actually vote. This item is trying to point out something that is intended as a joke, and as such, it shouldn't need to be explained or have undue attention drawn to it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:06, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:08, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment''' Heh-heh. Sorry about that remark. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Accept with Revisions''' This is a time in history where many homosexuals are being recongnised. Though this, admittedly, isn't the ONLY reference, we should still note it was handled maturely. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' If he had handled it any other way than maturely, TBC would have been called homophobes. Doesn't matter though, I can't think of a reason why it would be important to point out a gay reference just as I can't see why it would be important to point out all the swears that have been used. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise.''' A notable fact. While not in any way offensive, the second half of the sentence is unnecessary. Revise to say "This is the first reference to homosexuality in the H*R universe." Let Strong Bad's maturity speak for itself. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Twond''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second'''. And am I the only one to think "''[[Wikipedia:Bad Dudes|Bad Dudes]]''" when hearing this? "The Cheat has been kidnapped by fhqwhgads. Are you a tough enough guy to save The Cheat?" --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Not really. But the part about it being the only reference to homosexuality might be OK.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise and Accept-erson''' As a queer myself, I feel that the last section is totally acceptable. As a tough guy, Strong Bad would have been expected to respond with aggression, rudness, etc... as other "tough guys" I know have. However, he acted out of what was expected of him, and I think that makes it interesting and acceptable. Just change "only" to "first" and you're good to go.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:55, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Second.''' P.S. I'm so proud of SB for handling it maturely!!! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Decline.''' If, for some reason, an handicapped character was introduced in a cartoon(perhaps a character without arms?), would it be a fun fact to say, "this is the first time a handicapped character has appeared"? As Bob Marley says, "until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes..."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline''' (a) It's not the only reference to homosexuality on the site, as noted above. (b) Saying that Strong Bad handled it "maturely" is an opinion... people in general do sometimes tend to be offended when their names are contorted into names of the opposite gender. (c) Fun Facts should be objective; it's not a place to judge the characters' morality, so the word "thankfully" has no place here... though I do agree with your moral evaluation in this case. - Dingell
*'''Comment.''' This has gotten pretty complex. Here's the current vote tally as I see it ...
:This is the only ref ... 2 votes
:This is the first reference and it was handled in a mature manner ... 3 votes
:This is the first ref ... 3 votes
:Decline ... 7 votes. I'm assuming this means reject the fact outright.
:--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Interesting, but it's a bit of a stretch. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:51, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''X-Pensive Decline.''' Since it is white-out, W for White makes the most sense. And substituting letter sounds for words or word parts is a common practice in product branding... X-tra this, E-Z that, etc. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:38, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns). Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*A link would have been nice. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondhand pants.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' I agree with Donnny and at is why I '''Accept.''' Why is that a reason not to accept? The standard should be that it be something amusing or interesting which someone might not notice without reading this WIKI. Why else does this WIKI exsist? [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Then how did become pixalated? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline the Declines (AKA accept)''' This is very interesting, and I didn't even notice it until i read this. I don't understand why it was stuffed or why everyone seems to hate it so much. I think it's GOLD! [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:57, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' AGAIN, being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Although honestly I'm not seeing what's so "GOLD" about it... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:07, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**It totally was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but".
**'''Revise, accept''' It is a run-on scentence. Try:
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However, in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
**Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV. There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
*'''DECLINE, and I have proof.''' [[HR:xmas04.html|Watch the toon.]] When we first see Homestar in bed, we ''can't see the window.'' After he sits up, the camera moves, and ''lo and behold'' there the window is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
***The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From ''The American Heritage Dictionary:'' A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, ''but''), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
***Technically, beginning a sentence with ''however'' is not wrong either. But it ''is'' poor style. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy—Strong Bad was making that up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite, then accept.''' You have a good foundation, but you rambled a little bit. I would just cut it to the fact that SB said "broke the lappy again," intending that the Cheat maay have broken it before.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The 'Jay and Silent Bob' part is right on. The 'Jalepeño' part is wrong.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.
*'''Second''' - I immediately thought of Jay and Silent Bob. -[[User: Miss Free Country USA| Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' - I think the person who posted this fact was right. Whenever I see the name Silent J, it makes me think of Jay and Silent Bob, and I think TBC were also thinking of that. -[[User: Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*it is a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless
*'''Rewrite and accept.''' The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The answering machine could have been referring to a "Corey", or "Cori", not neccessarily "Cory".
*'''Most Likely Declined''' Your geekdar is overly sensitive, when was the last time you had an expert look at it? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' According to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Mr._Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]] was introduced in 1944. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:54, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Yep. Yep. Yeap. Second.''' -Walking Armless
**'''Threecond.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*...urge to kill...rising... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Oh please... are you surfing HR.com randomly looking for things to correlate? '''Decline!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Segundo.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It's not even worth it to be sarcastic. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted. It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item. It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Absolutely not!''' References to "This that and the other thing" are totally useless and encourage people to add to it, making it MORE useless. Maybe an Explanation or Remark, but not a Reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' You have the clear backbone for a Fun Fact, but it needs severe rewording and needs to be a little less derogatory. (sp?)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:31, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's not a Goof, because it was on purpose. I'd call it an Explanation. Don't mention a specific cartoon, as it fits the whole genre. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold was in question)

'''Verdict:''' After about a month of voting, the fact in bold was narrowly '''declined''' by a score of 2-3. The Star Trek reference has been put back on [[best thing]], while the entire discussion can be found on [[Talk:best thing]]. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:colonization]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:dragon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

-Edited by [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]. (Link was to [[rock opera]], not dragon)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Unadulterated Decline''' Come on, it's like you're not even trying. -Walking Armless
*'''The Klein.''' It's just a title effect. Besides, this doesn't give us any new information or insights. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:09, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== You killed Pom-Pom! ====
When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"

*'''Decline''' Uh...no. "Storng" Bad was just trying to scare Marzipan with a crank call. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unmatchable Decline''' Spell right, blast ye! -Walking Armless
*'''Delcine.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*You may be a reference to the superfluousness of the Shift Key... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Indelible Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move?''' Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move.''' Substituting 'm' for 'n' may be a running gag... Leomard Sportsinterviews, anyone? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:28, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' SB's makin' 'em up on the fly. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' The voting on this one stopped about a month ago tomstiff, it has been changed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:37, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I thought if a vote wasn't closed, then it was ... well ... open! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Woah. Isn't what brings this community together the laughter and enjoyment that homestar runner gives us? If you want to play the intellectual superiority game, why don't you go over to the MENSA wiki?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Are you talkin' to ''me''? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:10, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.'''Nope, I was talking to Islayedthekerrek. No manners at all. Sorry for not making it clearer.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Sorry tomstiff, I just want to forget this one, but the fact HAS been changed already, so if you really hate this one, then STUFF the new version. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I don't hate it ... at least not yet ... JOKE! I didn't realize it had been "closed" until after I voted. My point is ... if it's closed then why is it still open? To paraphrase a vote much further up the page ''It ain't closed until The Eggman closes it.'' And with that, let me re-unofficially close what had been unofficially closed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Lol''' Thanks for making me look like a fool, man by quoting me. Naw, seriously, I was just angry at myself for making such a dumb fun fact. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''D'oh!''' I had no idea I was quoting ''you''. Any fool-making was purely accidental! Let's get this thing closed before more hilarity ensues! Yoo hoo! The Eggman! Over here! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Too Late!''' The hilarity be ensuing already! I was just kidding when I said you made me look like a fool, though... '_' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I'm here... and getting to it...''' I just did a huge number on the finished ones up through Best Thing the other night. I'll get from Rock Opera on in the next day or so - been busy with non-H*R stuff... (I know, I know, heaven forbid...) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 03:45, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk: Kick the Can]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second.''' At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***I've seen "Goofs" around here a LOT worse than this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Too insignificant. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:35, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Good enough for me. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:other days]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

'''VERDICT:''' This fun fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:20, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''-some Guest
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They probably decided on "frickin'" for the same reason Fricker's did: it sounds like "chicken". --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.frickers.com/locations.asp Frickin'] link!
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_4]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Decemberween_Teen_Girl_Squad]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:15, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

'''VERDICT''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted. It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:2 years]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:2 years]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''FunFact=very yes.''' I like this fun fact a lot, and even remember it when it was among the other fun facts. I wonder why it was stuff'd. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:17, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' And Strong Bad's left boxing glove looks the same as his right boxing glove...

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''ACCEPT'D!''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:49, 16 Apr 2005 (EST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sprechen'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*'''<strike>Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept'''. Very noteworthy. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite''' Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most legible thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most intelligible thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from [http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode23.htm#3 Scott of the Sahara]...Rewrite! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I'm assuming this message was made in response to [[homsar]] to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed". Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now. I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
**Not to super nitpick, but the best word to use would probably be "sensible", since intelligible is just the ability to say words and sentences. He says stuff just fine, it just never makes any sense. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 03:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''"That's a real popular song! Who want's to hear that it's ACCEPTED!"''' Yep, I think this is a good point! Great job! *claps*--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

==Games==
===[[Peasant's_Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
*'''Fhqwdlcinds''' So??? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So, rather dashing's real name name is Julio. Good catch! Just '''revise''' it so that its a little more obvious. Try:
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in
Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Me Declino Infinito.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''REWRITE'D!''' I was the one who wrote the thing anyway, so I rewrote it with -erson-san's suggestion. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline the new one too''' It's still useless, and perhaps now moreso - are we next going to say that his name is Misspeller Jones? (Type "get plague" near the lantern.) It's a joke. Just go with it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' But, it might NOT be. Geez, why does everyone always decline everything around here? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:45, 16 Apr 2005
*** Oh, wait, what was that word? "Might"? As in, you're not certain? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But the fact that Rather Dashing is saying "Me llamo Julio" as a conversation starter to the Kerrek would be a different case. Do you ever say "Hello my name is..." and mention an incorrect name? And about the "Misspeller Jones", is it not common for people to make up nicknames for people about their different characteristics? Like you call a clumbsy person "Butterfingers" even though his real name is Bob, or a bad typist "Misspeller Jones" even though his real name is Julio? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:34, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****It sounds to me like the sort of thing you'd find in the first five pages of a beginners' Spanish textbook, and without otherwise knowing what to say to the Kerrek, he just rambled relative nonsense. We know his real name, and it's not Julio. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******We dont ''know'' that his real name is Rather Dashing, the character doesn't actually say it himself. Just the narrator. And whos more likely to know his own name, the narrator or Rather Dashing? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*******So, at the end of the game, the NARRATOR tells Trogdor (who repeats it - in voice acting!) that his name is Rather Dashing? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
********Sorry, I never played to the end of the game. But honeslty, what are the odds that if he was talking nonsence he would utter a phrase that just happens to be a very popular opening statement when meeting new people? And, there is no where in the game where it tells you Rather Dashing can't speak Spanish. Perhaps he though Kerrek spoke spanish.
*********Yes, I just double-checked the ending. The narration says "You scream that your name is Rather Dashing", followed by a long speech with a computer voice reading along (a direct quote by Trogdor), ending in "It will be a pleasure to burninate you, Rather Dashing." One random piece of text may give small credence to your theory that RD's real name is Julio, but the entire rest of the game contradicts it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Perhaps a rewrite than to indiciate that Rather Dashing's name may be Julio according to that text?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I don't think Fun Facts is a place for theories that "may be" true based on a possible interpretation of one statement. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yet Another Comment.''' We all know that "rather dashing" is a term meaning you're good-looking. Maybe he just calls himself that because he thinks he's, well, good-looking. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:41, 17 Apr 2005 (EST)
*How do we know he just didn't read that off of a Spanish textbook? It's just as much speculation to say that Rather Dashing CAN speak Spanish as it is to say he can't. Can't you just accept that this is random TBC humor? Seriously, this is a bigger stretch than Dhalsim. '''Me llamo decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment Numero Tres.''' Look, we're never going to get anywhere like this, and I'm sick of the arguments. Someone lock this thing, PLEASE. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:53, 19 Apr 2005

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Black Spots====
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
** The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)