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Teen Girl Squad Issue 9

SBEmail22 — Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:25:22 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Remarks */

[[Image:ilsg.PNG|thumb|LEARNER'S OINTMENT!]]

When Cheerleader dies, the girls, along with an old man named Mr. Pitters, attempt to re-make themselves as the "Best Friends Squad."

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|So and So}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, [[Mr. Pitters]], [[Learner's Permit Girl]], Science Fiction Greg, Port-O-John, [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]], {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Tompkins}} (Easter Egg), Science Fiction Greg's Friends (Easter Egg), D'N'D Greg (Easter Egg)

'''Date:''' June 20, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 2:05

'''Page Title:''' Summatime Style!

==Transcript==
'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Teen Girl Squad! Cheerleader! ''{screen shows Cheerleader, with "backyard pool!" next to her}'' So and So! ''{library!}'' What's Her Face! ''{24 hour diner!}'' The Ugly One! ''{parking deck?}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Okay my spanish galleons, this summer's gonna be different! Say guh-bye to hanging out next to this old person!

''{Mr. Pitters appears on the left hand side of the screen.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE AND MR. PITTERS:''' Bye old person...

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Cuz now I'm best friends with an olda girl what has her LEARNER'S PERMIT!!!

'''SO AND SO & THE UGLY ONE:''' LEARNER'S PERMIT!!! 
'''MR. PITTERS:''' ''{simultaneously}'' LEARNER'S OINTMENT!!!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' I've had my license for a year-

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Stop saying words. here she comes now!

''{Learner's permit girl appears and is driving really fast.}''

'''LEARNER'S PERMIT GIRL:''' 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock!

''{The Learner's Permit girl runs over Cheerleader. She dies.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' DRIVER'S ED'ED...DEAD

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Owww, my entire life!

'''SO AND SO:''' Whoa, Cheerleader's gone.

'''ALL 3 GIRLS:''' WE'RE FREE!

'''MR. PITTERS:''' We're ointment!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' The tyranny is over!!

''{So and So reappears in her opening frame...}''

'''SO AND SO:''' I can overachieve like a bandit!

''{...as does What's Her Face, who is thinking of Science-Fiction Greg...}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' I can date science-fiction Greg again!

''{...as well as the ugly one...who looks like a mess.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' I can stop showering!!!!

''{...as well as Mr. Pitters...who looks like an old person teen girl, and wears a shirt with "boy toy" on the front.}''

'''MR. PITTERS:''' I can be a teen girl!

''{Two vultures appear over him.}''

'''FIRST VULTURE:''' Ain't no teen girl.

''{Cut to a dining room table where the vultures are seen eating Mr. Pitters.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Chomp chomp chomp chomp...

'''SECOND VULTURE:''' Quite good, quite good.

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ...chomp chomp...

''{Cut back to the remaining girls}''

'''SO AND SO:''' You guys, I think this might be the start of a kinder, gentler squad of teen girls.

''{Cut to the intro to "Best Friends Squad." The normal music is switched for the Best Friends Squad theme, as sung by Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:'''
A glue stick, some glitta paint, ''{a "GLOO STICK" is seen on the first part, some "GLITTA PAINT" on the second}'' 
Words cut out from a magazine, ''{Cut-out words are placed to read "Scrap BOOKS R Scrap TASTIC"}'' 
BFF carved in a tree, ''{A heart with "BFF" is seen on a tree}'' 
That stands for BAOW! FOM! FROOSH! ''{We see that The Ugly One carved it with the [[Big Knife]], and the tree breaks, falls on her, and spontaneously combusts.}''

A port-o-john came to life, ''{Which is exactly what happens}'' 
Put on a play with So and So. ''{The port-o-john and So and So are seen on stage. The port-o-john wears a crown and holds a scepter. So and So wears a hat.}'' 
Unfortunately, they didn't ''{So and So pretends to faint, and the port-o-john catches her. They stand up, and The Man with the Huge Mouth appears in the audience.}'' 
Get very good reviews. ''{The Man throws a spear, which goes through So and So and hits the port-o-john in the face.}''

What's Her Face ate Staple Sauce, ''{What's Her Face is seen next to a giant bottle of "STAPLE SAUCE"}'' 
A heaping bowl of Staple Sauce. ''{She eats a bowl of it, and keels over, dead.}'' 
Then crazy Learner's-Permit-Girl ''{We see her in her car.}'' 
Gave-me-a-ride to Babbage's. ''{Strong Bad appears on the hood of her car, and then they're seen at Babbage's.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! They don't got no Turbografx games?!

''{Cut to the ghosts of the girls.}''

'''CHEERLEADER'S GHOST:''' Okay, my art galleries, let's get ready to be...

'''ALL GHOST GIRLS:''' ''{Cheerleader says this with her usual enthusiasm; the rest look downhearted.}'' SO DEAD!!!!

'''MR. PITTERS' GHOST:''' ''{Wearing a shirt with "worm food" on the front.}'' I look so good.

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' IT'S OVER!

==Easter Eggs==
* At the end, click the "o" to see Sci-Fi Greg brag about how the ladies and Valkyries are all over his experience points.
:'''SCI-FI GREG:''' I knew she'd come back to me. Ever since my experience points went into triple digits I've had to keep the ladies and valkyries off with a 2 handed plus 3 broad sword.

:'''D N'D GREG:''' ''(leaning in from the left)'' Hey! Quit bitin my style!
* Also at the end, click the "!" to see the "Over Achiever" strike Tompkins' homework.
:'''TOMPKINS:''' ''(holding a piece of paper with mathematical symbols on it, graded "A+++++")'' Who did the rest of my pre-algebra homework?

:'''SO AND SO:''' ''(leaning in from the right, wearing a Lone Ranger mask and a hankerchief over her mouth)'' The over-achiever bandit strikes again!!!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*Although Strong Bad says BFF stands for BAOW! FOM! FROOSH!, the acronym is usually an abbreviation for "Best Friends Forever."
*Sci-fi Greg's speech in the Easter Egg uses terminology from [[Wikipedia:Dungeons and Dragons|Dungeons and Dragons]], or "D&D", which is why D'N'D Greg accuses him of "bitin' my style."
*In America, a learner's permit is granted by some states to drivers as young as fourteen and once you have the permit, that driver must be accompanied by a licensed driver.
*A [[Wikipedia:galleon|galleon]] was a large, multi-decked sailing ship used primarily by the nations of Europe from the 16th to 18th centuries.
*For many years, American teenagers were taught in Driver's Education class that the proper position for hands on the steering wheel was ten o'clock for the left hand and two o'clock for the right.

===Remarks===
*Sci-fi Greg's bragging about his three-digit experience total is misplaced - assuming he plays ''Dungeons and Dragons'' like his namesake, he could get almost 100 experience points from a single encounter, and would need at least a four-digit total to reach level 2.
*According to Norse Mythology, Valkyries were fierce warrior-women who would swoop down on a battlefield, carrying away fallen warriors to fight for the gods' home of Asgard.
*This is the first TGS cartoon (not counting [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!#Teen Girl Squad Sample|Issue 8½]]) that has neither an "Again" or "Back" link at the end.
*Generally speaking, American teenagers get a driver's license at about sixteen years of age. Given the fact that she's had a driver's license for a year, it appears that What's Her Face is about seventeen years old.
*This is the first Teen Girl Squad comic in which Strong Bad appears outside of an easter egg.

===Inside References===
*Mr. Pitters's last line, "I look so good," is Cheerleader's last line in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].
*Inside Babbage's is a sign that appears to offer [[Cheap as Free]] software (it is partially obstructed).
*The sound effect "froosh" was used in [[time capsule]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Babbage's|Babbage's]] used to be a somewhat popular chain of software stores. It is now known as [[Wikipedia:GameStop|GameStop]].But there are still some Babbage's still alive.
*The [[Wikipedia:TurboGrafx 16|TurboGrafx 16]] was a video game console released by NEC in 1989, for the North American market.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:tgs9.html|watch "Teen Girl Squad Issue 9"]]
*[[HR:tgs9.swf|view the Flash file for "Teen Girl Squad Issue 9"]]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=3947 forum thread re: "Teen Girl Squad Issue 9"]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}
[[Category:Teen Girl Squad]]

Teen Girl Squad Issue 9

SBEmail22 — Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:25:07 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Inside References */

[[Image:ilsg.PNG|thumb|LEARNER'S OINTMENT!]]

When Cheerleader dies, the girls, along with an old man named Mr. Pitters, attempt to re-make themselves as the "Best Friends Squad."

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|So and So}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, [[Mr. Pitters]], [[Learner's Permit Girl]], Science Fiction Greg, Port-O-John, [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]], {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Tompkins}} (Easter Egg), Science Fiction Greg's Friends (Easter Egg), D'N'D Greg (Easter Egg)

'''Date:''' June 20, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 2:05

'''Page Title:''' Summatime Style!

==Transcript==
'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Teen Girl Squad! Cheerleader! ''{screen shows Cheerleader, with "backyard pool!" next to her}'' So and So! ''{library!}'' What's Her Face! ''{24 hour diner!}'' The Ugly One! ''{parking deck?}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Okay my spanish galleons, this summer's gonna be different! Say guh-bye to hanging out next to this old person!

''{Mr. Pitters appears on the left hand side of the screen.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE AND MR. PITTERS:''' Bye old person...

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Cuz now I'm best friends with an olda girl what has her LEARNER'S PERMIT!!!

'''SO AND SO & THE UGLY ONE:''' LEARNER'S PERMIT!!! 
'''MR. PITTERS:''' ''{simultaneously}'' LEARNER'S OINTMENT!!!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' I've had my license for a year-

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Stop saying words. here she comes now!

''{Learner's permit girl appears and is driving really fast.}''

'''LEARNER'S PERMIT GIRL:''' 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock!

''{The Learner's Permit girl runs over Cheerleader. She dies.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' DRIVER'S ED'ED...DEAD

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Owww, my entire life!

'''SO AND SO:''' Whoa, Cheerleader's gone.

'''ALL 3 GIRLS:''' WE'RE FREE!

'''MR. PITTERS:''' We're ointment!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' The tyranny is over!!

''{So and So reappears in her opening frame...}''

'''SO AND SO:''' I can overachieve like a bandit!

''{...as does What's Her Face, who is thinking of Science-Fiction Greg...}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' I can date science-fiction Greg again!

''{...as well as the ugly one...who looks like a mess.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' I can stop showering!!!!

''{...as well as Mr. Pitters...who looks like an old person teen girl, and wears a shirt with "boy toy" on the front.}''

'''MR. PITTERS:''' I can be a teen girl!

''{Two vultures appear over him.}''

'''FIRST VULTURE:''' Ain't no teen girl.

''{Cut to a dining room table where the vultures are seen eating Mr. Pitters.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Chomp chomp chomp chomp...

'''SECOND VULTURE:''' Quite good, quite good.

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ...chomp chomp...

''{Cut back to the remaining girls}''

'''SO AND SO:''' You guys, I think this might be the start of a kinder, gentler squad of teen girls.

''{Cut to the intro to "Best Friends Squad." The normal music is switched for the Best Friends Squad theme, as sung by Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:'''
A glue stick, some glitta paint, ''{a "GLOO STICK" is seen on the first part, some "GLITTA PAINT" on the second}'' 
Words cut out from a magazine, ''{Cut-out words are placed to read "Scrap BOOKS R Scrap TASTIC"}'' 
BFF carved in a tree, ''{A heart with "BFF" is seen on a tree}'' 
That stands for BAOW! FOM! FROOSH! ''{We see that The Ugly One carved it with the [[Big Knife]], and the tree breaks, falls on her, and spontaneously combusts.}''

A port-o-john came to life, ''{Which is exactly what happens}'' 
Put on a play with So and So. ''{The port-o-john and So and So are seen on stage. The port-o-john wears a crown and holds a scepter. So and So wears a hat.}'' 
Unfortunately, they didn't ''{So and So pretends to faint, and the port-o-john catches her. They stand up, and The Man with the Huge Mouth appears in the audience.}'' 
Get very good reviews. ''{The Man throws a spear, which goes through So and So and hits the port-o-john in the face.}''

What's Her Face ate Staple Sauce, ''{What's Her Face is seen next to a giant bottle of "STAPLE SAUCE"}'' 
A heaping bowl of Staple Sauce. ''{She eats a bowl of it, and keels over, dead.}'' 
Then crazy Learner's-Permit-Girl ''{We see her in her car.}'' 
Gave-me-a-ride to Babbage's. ''{Strong Bad appears on the hood of her car, and then they're seen at Babbage's.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! They don't got no Turbografx games?!

''{Cut to the ghosts of the girls.}''

'''CHEERLEADER'S GHOST:''' Okay, my art galleries, let's get ready to be...

'''ALL GHOST GIRLS:''' ''{Cheerleader says this with her usual enthusiasm; the rest look downhearted.}'' SO DEAD!!!!

'''MR. PITTERS' GHOST:''' ''{Wearing a shirt with "worm food" on the front.}'' I look so good.

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' IT'S OVER!

==Easter Eggs==
* At the end, click the "o" to see Sci-Fi Greg brag about how the ladies and Valkyries are all over his experience points.
:'''SCI-FI GREG:''' I knew she'd come back to me. Ever since my experience points went into triple digits I've had to keep the ladies and valkyries off with a 2 handed plus 3 broad sword.

:'''D N'D GREG:''' ''(leaning in from the left)'' Hey! Quit bitin my style!
* Also at the end, click the "!" to see the "Over Achiever" strike Tompkins' homework.
:'''TOMPKINS:''' ''(holding a piece of paper with mathematical symbols on it, graded "A+++++")'' Who did the rest of my pre-algebra homework?

:'''SO AND SO:''' ''(leaning in from the right, wearing a Lone Ranger mask and a hankerchief over her mouth)'' The over-achiever bandit strikes again!!!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*Although Strong Bad says BFF stands for BAOW! FOM! FROOSH!, the acronym is usually an abbreviation for "Best Friends Forever."
*Sci-fi Greg's speech in the Easter Egg uses terminology from [[Wikipedia:Dungeons and Dragons|Dungeons and Dragons]], or "D&D", which is why D'N'D Greg accuses him of "bitin' my style."
*In America, a learner's permit is granted by some states to drivers as young as fourteen and once you have the permit, that driver must be accompanied by a licensed driver.
*A [[Wikipedia:galleon|galleon]] was a large, multi-decked sailing ship used primarily by the nations of Europe from the 16th to 18th centuries.
*For many years, American teenagers were taught in Driver's Education class that the proper position for hands on the steering wheel was ten o'clock for the left hand and two o'clock for the right.

===Remarks===
*Sci-fi Greg's bragging about his three-digit experience total is misplaced - assuming he plays ''Dungeons and Dragons'' like his namesake, he could get almost 100 experience points from a single encounter, and would need at least a four-digit total to reach level 2.
*According to Norse Mythology, Valkyries were fierce warrior-women who would swoop down on a battlefield, carrying away fallen warriors to fight for the gods' home of Asgard.
*This is the first TGS cartoon (not counting [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!#Teen Girl Squad Sample|Issue 8½]]) that has neither an "Again" or "Back" link at the end.
*Generally speaking, American teenagers get a driver's license at about sixteen years of age. Given the fact that she's had a driver's license for a year, it appears that What's Her Face is about seventeen years old.

===Inside References===
*Mr. Pitters's last line, "I look so good," is Cheerleader's last line in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].
*Inside Babbage's is a sign that appears to offer [[Cheap as Free]] software (it is partially obstructed).
*The sound effect "froosh" was used in [[time capsule]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Babbage's|Babbage's]] used to be a somewhat popular chain of software stores. It is now known as [[Wikipedia:GameStop|GameStop]].But there are still some Babbage's still alive.
*The [[Wikipedia:TurboGrafx 16|TurboGrafx 16]] was a video game console released by NEC in 1989, for the North American market.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:tgs9.html|watch "Teen Girl Squad Issue 9"]]
*[[HR:tgs9.swf|view the Flash file for "Teen Girl Squad Issue 9"]]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=3947 forum thread re: "Teen Girl Squad Issue 9"]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}
[[Category:Teen Girl Squad]]

Teen Girl Squad Issue 9

SBEmail22 — Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:21:03 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Inside References */

[[Image:ilsg.PNG|thumb|LEARNER'S OINTMENT!]]

When Cheerleader dies, the girls, along with an old man named Mr. Pitters, attempt to re-make themselves as the "Best Friends Squad."

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|So and So}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, [[Mr. Pitters]], [[Learner's Permit Girl]], Science Fiction Greg, Port-O-John, [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]], {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Tompkins}} (Easter Egg), Science Fiction Greg's Friends (Easter Egg), D'N'D Greg (Easter Egg)

'''Date:''' June 20, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 2:05

'''Page Title:''' Summatime Style!

==Transcript==
'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Teen Girl Squad! Cheerleader! ''{screen shows Cheerleader, with "backyard pool!" next to her}'' So and So! ''{library!}'' What's Her Face! ''{24 hour diner!}'' The Ugly One! ''{parking deck?}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Okay my spanish galleons, this summer's gonna be different! Say guh-bye to hanging out next to this old person!

''{Mr. Pitters appears on the left hand side of the screen.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE AND MR. PITTERS:''' Bye old person...

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Cuz now I'm best friends with an olda girl what has her LEARNER'S PERMIT!!!

'''SO AND SO & THE UGLY ONE:''' LEARNER'S PERMIT!!! 
'''MR. PITTERS:''' ''{simultaneously}'' LEARNER'S OINTMENT!!!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' I've had my license for a year-

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Stop saying words. here she comes now!

''{Learner's permit girl appears and is driving really fast.}''

'''LEARNER'S PERMIT GIRL:''' 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock!

''{The Learner's Permit girl runs over Cheerleader. She dies.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' DRIVER'S ED'ED...DEAD

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Owww, my entire life!

'''SO AND SO:''' Whoa, Cheerleader's gone.

'''ALL 3 GIRLS:''' WE'RE FREE!

'''MR. PITTERS:''' We're ointment!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' The tyranny is over!!

''{So and So reappears in her opening frame...}''

'''SO AND SO:''' I can overachieve like a bandit!

''{...as does What's Her Face, who is thinking of Science-Fiction Greg...}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' I can date science-fiction Greg again!

''{...as well as the ugly one...who looks like a mess.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' I can stop showering!!!!

''{...as well as Mr. Pitters...who looks like an old person teen girl, and wears a shirt with "boy toy" on the front.}''

'''MR. PITTERS:''' I can be a teen girl!

''{Two vultures appear over him.}''

'''FIRST VULTURE:''' Ain't no teen girl.

''{Cut to a dining room table where the vultures are seen eating Mr. Pitters.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Chomp chomp chomp chomp...

'''SECOND VULTURE:''' Quite good, quite good.

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ...chomp chomp...

''{Cut back to the remaining girls}''

'''SO AND SO:''' You guys, I think this might be the start of a kinder, gentler squad of teen girls.

''{Cut to the intro to "Best Friends Squad." The normal music is switched for the Best Friends Squad theme, as sung by Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:'''
A glue stick, some glitta paint, ''{a "GLOO STICK" is seen on the first part, some "GLITTA PAINT" on the second}'' 
Words cut out from a magazine, ''{Cut-out words are placed to read "Scrap BOOKS R Scrap TASTIC"}'' 
BFF carved in a tree, ''{A heart with "BFF" is seen on a tree}'' 
That stands for BAOW! FOM! FROOSH! ''{We see that The Ugly One carved it with the [[Big Knife]], and the tree breaks, falls on her, and spontaneously combusts.}''

A port-o-john came to life, ''{Which is exactly what happens}'' 
Put on a play with So and So. ''{The port-o-john and So and So are seen on stage. The port-o-john wears a crown and holds a scepter. So and So wears a hat.}'' 
Unfortunately, they didn't ''{So and So pretends to faint, and the port-o-john catches her. They stand up, and The Man with the Huge Mouth appears in the audience.}'' 
Get very good reviews. ''{The Man throws a spear, which goes through So and So and hits the port-o-john in the face.}''

What's Her Face ate Staple Sauce, ''{What's Her Face is seen next to a giant bottle of "STAPLE SAUCE"}'' 
A heaping bowl of Staple Sauce. ''{She eats a bowl of it, and keels over, dead.}'' 
Then crazy Learner's-Permit-Girl ''{We see her in her car.}'' 
Gave-me-a-ride to Babbage's. ''{Strong Bad appears on the hood of her car, and then they're seen at Babbage's.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! They don't got no Turbografx games?!

''{Cut to the ghosts of the girls.}''

'''CHEERLEADER'S GHOST:''' Okay, my art galleries, let's get ready to be...

'''ALL GHOST GIRLS:''' ''{Cheerleader says this with her usual enthusiasm; the rest look downhearted.}'' SO DEAD!!!!

'''MR. PITTERS' GHOST:''' ''{Wearing a shirt with "worm food" on the front.}'' I look so good.

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' IT'S OVER!

==Easter Eggs==
* At the end, click the "o" to see Sci-Fi Greg brag about how the ladies and Valkyries are all over his experience points.
:'''SCI-FI GREG:''' I knew she'd come back to me. Ever since my experience points went into triple digits I've had to keep the ladies and valkyries off with a 2 handed plus 3 broad sword.

:'''D N'D GREG:''' ''(leaning in from the left)'' Hey! Quit bitin my style!
* Also at the end, click the "!" to see the "Over Achiever" strike Tompkins' homework.
:'''TOMPKINS:''' ''(holding a piece of paper with mathematical symbols on it, graded "A+++++")'' Who did the rest of my pre-algebra homework?

:'''SO AND SO:''' ''(leaning in from the right, wearing a Lone Ranger mask and a hankerchief over her mouth)'' The over-achiever bandit strikes again!!!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*Although Strong Bad says BFF stands for BAOW! FOM! FROOSH!, the acronym is usually an abbreviation for "Best Friends Forever."
*Sci-fi Greg's speech in the Easter Egg uses terminology from [[Wikipedia:Dungeons and Dragons|Dungeons and Dragons]], or "D&D", which is why D'N'D Greg accuses him of "bitin' my style."
*In America, a learner's permit is granted by some states to drivers as young as fourteen and once you have the permit, that driver must be accompanied by a licensed driver.
*A [[Wikipedia:galleon|galleon]] was a large, multi-decked sailing ship used primarily by the nations of Europe from the 16th to 18th centuries.
*For many years, American teenagers were taught in Driver's Education class that the proper position for hands on the steering wheel was ten o'clock for the left hand and two o'clock for the right.

===Remarks===
*Sci-fi Greg's bragging about his three-digit experience total is misplaced - assuming he plays ''Dungeons and Dragons'' like his namesake, he could get almost 100 experience points from a single encounter, and would need at least a four-digit total to reach level 2.
*According to Norse Mythology, Valkyries were fierce warrior-women who would swoop down on a battlefield, carrying away fallen warriors to fight for the gods' home of Asgard.
*This is the first TGS cartoon (not counting [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!#Teen Girl Squad Sample|Issue 8½]])that has neither an "Again" or "Back" link at the end.
*Generally speaking, American teenagers get a driver's license at about sixteen years of age. Given the fact that she's had a driver's license for a year, it appears that What's Her Face is about seventeen years old.

===Inside References===
*Mr. Pitters's last line, "I look so good," is Cheerleader's last line in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].
*Inside Babbage's is a sign that appears to offer [[Cheap as Free]] software (it is partially obstructed).
*This is the first Teen Girl Squad comic in which Strong Bad appears outside of an easter egg.
*The sound effect "froosh" was used in [[time capsule]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Babbage's|Babbage's]] used to be a somewhat popular chain of software stores. It is now known as [[Wikipedia:GameStop|GameStop]].But there are still some Babbage's still alive.
*The [[Wikipedia:TurboGrafx 16|TurboGrafx 16]] was a video game console released by NEC in 1989, for the North American market.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:tgs9.html|watch "Teen Girl Squad Issue 9"]]
*[[HR:tgs9.swf|view the Flash file for "Teen Girl Squad Issue 9"]]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=3947 forum thread re: "Teen Girl Squad Issue 9"]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}
[[Category:Teen Girl Squad]]

HRWiki talk:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:39:48 GMT

SBEmail22: /* STUFF reform */

==Rant and Roar==

We need to move the "Fun Facts" debate/discussion/voting to the Talk pages of the specific articles. I now realize that this "Stuff" HRWIKI about page pure silliness.

By moving content discussion from the talk page to a common page we are simply no using the Wiki to its potential. If one gets a lack of response from a talk page, go ahead and make the change. BE BOLD.

'''-That is what the Talk page is for-'''

It has been said that many contributors will not check the talk page before making a change. Most everyone on the "Stuff" page are old hands. If newbies won't read the how-to why would they go to the "Stuff" page?

The popularity of the "Stuff" page is typical of a sloppy discussion forum and not an article based reference guide.

I think this will be an ongoing problem with this wiki because since the HR universe is finite, most of its content has already been catalogued. Still, many people want to contribute so we are left with an onslaught of "fun facts" and pointless articles on SB's Stool.

What we need is a Clean-Up page. Articles that need to be cleaned up for one reason or another are listed on the Clean-Up Page. This would include merge and redirects, and it could be used to flag pages with "fun fact" debates.

I think due to the nature of the "[[virus]]" email it will be a high water mark in the "did you notice that" department.

My 2 cents - [[User:Drhaggis|[[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]]] 21:17, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Yes, that's what the talk page is for, but talk pages aren't organized. Sometimes when a problem gets big enough, a jury-rigged solution becomes less adequate. It's been pointed out that the STUFF page results in ''much'' more (and more precise) feedback than the use of talk pages does. In addition, for the first time we're all getting together and working out what makes a good fun fact. These things don't sound like "pure silliness" to me. The same argument can be made with Wikipedia and VfD: talk of deletion could just take place on the Talk page, but if they did it that way, it'd be spread too thin and much less would actually get done. Of course, a counterargument is that Wikipedia is much larger-scale, but I think the argument still applies since this is obviously doing good. As I've noted, by the way, people who wish to be bold can still just post their facts directly; there's just less of a chance that it'll be accepted. By the way, we could still use a clean-up page, but I think it needs to be separated from STUFF because of the potentially high volume. Time will tell... - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:02, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Perhaps this has already been mentioned, but perhaps we should have individual STUFF fun facts on the talk pages of their respective pages under a subsection of their talk pages, and have links to talk pages that have STUFF'd items on this page. --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 01:12, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)

::Counterargument: having everything on one STUFF page still makes it easier to maintain. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:02, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)

:::I find it hard to call a 44Kb long page full of decline/delete/accept/keep that no one wants to read through easy to maintain. That's why I recommend this page be used to link to discussion pages for the toons. As long as people actually use it, then this page will link to pages that list fun facts under consideration. If you hadn't noticed, clicking edit on the STUFF page leads to some warning akin to this: "WARNING: Most browsers will barf on this page. It is too long." It really is too long, and will likely only get messier as time goes on. --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 11:14, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)

::Have you by any chance seen how long [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Votes for deletion|Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]] is? ;) Yes, I've noticed the warning but I don't consider it important, and it's not true that "most browsers" will barf on the page (especially not the important ones like MSIE, Netscape, and Firefox), just that some browsers will. I don't think it's too long. The important stuff is the votes themselves and there are fewer than one per line on average, and they are in bold, so it is very easy to glance at a fun fact and see how things are going for it. If a few days have passed and there's hardly anything but decline/decline/decline, then it's probably safe to just get rid of it. Speaking of, I decided that fun facts that do get rejected, along with their votes, should probably be moved to the according Talk page. There are a few fun facts with enough declines and enough time to have been voted on to know to get rid of them, so I will. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:00, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Adding the template <nowiki>{{disputed}}</nowiki> to any article under the "Fun Facts" banner will have the same affect as this unwieldy "Stuff" page. Vfd on Wikipedia is grouped together because only admins can delete and they need to track the results of polls. Admins are not here to "approve" every fun fact: they are here to administrate. The community decides content, and as the [[Wikipedia:Be Bold|style and How-to guide]] explains, that is what the talk page is for. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 21:20, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

::I agree with [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] on this one. Perhaps this should be a Wiki-decision poll on the Forum? This page is great (I especially love the S.T.U.F.F. acronym) but I really think using a boilerplate that alerts people to the dispute and points them to the talk page would be the most effective solution. [[User:JoeyDay|<nowiki></nowiki>]] —[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] [[User talk:JoeyDay|(Talk)]] 13:24, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Perhaps each article should have a separate STUFF page. Which I guess is similar (if not exactly the same as) the Clean-Up page proposed above. A single STUFF page has become to large and difficult to use. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005

*'''Second''' It seems to me that the most user-friendly system would be to have a STUFF tab on the top of each page to have voting just about that page. [[User:Theving|Theving]]

==General Comments and Rants==
*I'm glad that we are finally addressing the crap fun fact issue. Whenever one sees the text "this may be a reference to...." it should just be cut. Not even voted on. If we don’t know, its not a fact. Speculate elsewhere.

:And we shouldn’t confuse '''running gags''' with '''references'''. When [[The Cheat's Head Exploding| The Cheat's head blows up]], or there is a new game title in the [[Floppy Disk Container]], those are running gags. When Strong Bad overtly mentions the email [[tape-leg]], that’s a reference. When something appears in the background from another toon or email, that is not a "reference". Nor is the reusing of sound effects a "reference". -[[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 16:02, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

::I agree. A true classification system such as the one you present needs to be drawn up. This would help with the problem of internal Homestar Runner references. Do you think something similar would also aide us with external references to real-life things as well?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:30, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

I totally agree. The reason they use the same backgrounds/items/sounds is because it's easier than making a new one. And also,something should only be considered a pop culture reference if it's an exact quote or almost an exact quote. Isn't it possible that it's just a coincidence they're similar?-[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

*When does a funfact become accepted or declined? After x votes? After x voting days? This is a great start, but it lacks structure. I think we have two days of voting. Comments/Suggestions/Did I not read something?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**Well, the idea was that the admins decide when something has had enough votes or been up long enough, though it doesn't have to be that way. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 21:19, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***Well, what's the point of voting if the admins decide whether or not the fun fact has had enough votes. They could then say that their one vote is enough to veto 50 other peoples. There needs to be a set procedure, otherwise this whole voting thing is pointless. -[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**Not necessarily. I think the admins can be trusted to use good judgement in deciding whether or not to accept or decline an item. If it turns out that most people don't agree, then we can change that. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 00:56, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
***Enter [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki_talk:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts#Fun_Fact_Confirmation_Committee_.28FFCC.29 my idea!]-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 13:07, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

This comment could be a little bit out of place, but what about just creating a new "Running Gags" heading in emails? So, when The Cheat's head blows up or a new floppy disk appears, rather than it being listed in "Fun Facts," it would be listed in "Running Gags." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:29, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Starting to get on the wrong foot here... ==

First off, I'd like to revise the terms used for voting. Rather than "delete/keep", we should use "decline/accept" because we should mostly be voting on ''new'' fun facts, which brings me to my next point: already somebody has posted an item for [[little animal]], which is an old e-mail with very few fun facts. I think it'd be preferable to move the disputed item to the Talk page in that case. We don't want to get more bureaucratic than necessary, that is, this page is meant to be here for pages that ''need'' it.

Of course, we don't have to do things my way. I'm just communicating my original intent. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:22, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

:It seems to me that even pages like "virus" could have the fun fact voting on its talk page. -[[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I disagree, if disputed fun facts are just put on the Talk page, someone will just put it back with the facts, and then someone else will put it back in Talk, and it will just go back and forth. Unless you mean to set up a voting system in the Talk page. That would be alright, but I think that Select The Usable Fun Facts is better because users will know where to go about disputed fun facts, and if they were just on Talk, they might get overlooked. STUFF seems to be the better system. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]] 3:00, 22 Nov. 2004 (GMT)

:I agree with Ogog. This has happened to me a few times. You take an irrelevant fun fact off and then 5 minutes later it is back. I have also tried posting to the talk page to try to clear up some irrelevant fun facts, but never got a response (see [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]). -[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]

::The talk page is intended to discuss the merits of article content. I would think a discussion is more likely to be overlooked here, outside article space, than with the article itself. -[[User:Drhaggis|[[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]]] 13:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

:::On the other hand, I believe this is already shown to be wrong because here there is both more breadth and more depth in fun fact discussions than there has ever been. (Discussions over "Yeah, no" don't count.) Clearly stuff's not getting overlooked. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:07, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I agree that, for the most part, most old articles don't need it. However, with certain disputed facts like the little animal one, it may be necessary, as that fact has been argued up and down for so long that we need SOME sort of consensus on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

People that will ignore the voting on the Talk page will also ignore the voting on the STUFF page. If they won't read talk page why would they come here? Wikipedia has a 3 revert rule. If edits are going back and forth both parties risk being banned or frozen. - [[User:Drhaggis|[[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]]] 16:28, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I think we should give this a chance. Like I said, NOBODY responded when I posted on the talk page of Halloween Fairstival. I posted on STUFF earlier today and have already had tremendous feedback. Which is strange, because you said that if people wouldn't go to the talk page, they wouldn't come here (yet you yourself have done just that). And, like you said, Wikipedia has a three revert rule. With STUFF, both parties don't have to be banned or frozen, only the party not following the vote. I don't think we should abandon this system after one day. Let's test it and see if it will work. -[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]

::I second Fuzzy. STUFF's voting system seems more objective than the flame-wars that can sometimes break out on Talk pages, and a lot of it has to do with the idea of having a predetermined set of votes. However, I am concerned that this page is getting really quite long already, and it's just two emails old. I have already nominated a fun fact that already had been nominated. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

== New Vote Type? ==

I've noticed a lot of Fun Facts that need to be moved to a different page, specifically about new features of the [[Lappy 486]] mentioned in the [[animal]] email. So, I suggest that there be a new vote type: '''Move.''' Certain fun facts aren't about the emails themselves, but are sort of a "big picture" type of fact. Any thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:19, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
:I'm not sure I can speak for everyone, but I like the idea. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:32, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

::I second that. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 15:50, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Second! Move to usable votes. That = [[User:thatkidsam|That!]] *Braaap*

== Time Limit? ==

There are a lot of fun facts which have been open to voting for over a month, and still haven't been resolved. While most of this page is very well organised, the final verdicts are not. I recommend a time limit for voting of a week or two after the fun fact was put up for debate. That way, we can keep the page from getting too cluttered and finally kill off some of the decaying polls put up months ago. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

*It's been a while since the Christmas Lights fun fact went up, and the votes seem about 50-50 in favor of the rewrite (if you count the people who voted for the original wording). So what does this mean? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 09:36, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
::I still think we need a time limit. Perhaps a week after the fun fact was put up, perhaps a few days after people stopped voting. We can't always count on people agreeing eventually, and if a consensus isn't reached within a reasonable amount of time, the majority should decide. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*I agree, there's actually a few facts of mine that have been on the page since it first appeared and I'm curious to know if they've been declined or accepted. -- [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:33, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Forward Referencing ==

I'm going through the Strong Bad Emails one by one, checking over them all. I'm finding lots and lots of "forward references" - which is to say, references to things that haven't happened yet. For example, stating in [[invisibility]] that "The Tandy line "I can make it on my own" is later used as a line for Li'l Brudder in [[crying]]" (which I deleted) is a forward reference. I do not like forward references - for instance, it would be far more appropriate to place that Fun Fact in crying rather than invisibility. Is it just me? Am I being too picky? Or should I add "forward referencing" to "examples of bad 'fun facts'"? (By the way, saying, "this is the first time xxx has happened" doesn't really constitute forward referencing in my eyes if xxx is relatively common later on, like Strong Bad's pronounciation of state abbreviations in [[depressio]].) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:52, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I don't have a problem with forward referencing (unless it gets as ridiculous and useless as other "Fun Facts" of late). Since the Wiki is the ultimate resource for all things Homestar Runner, some people come to the site specifically to find where certain quotes are reused. Say someone has just watched [[invisibility]], seen the "I can make it on my own," and they know it turns up again somewhere but for whatever reason their blanking on it. With forward referencing, they can find it easily, but without, it's probably going to drive them crazy as they search all the other e-mails one by one. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
:: Or they COULD just use the "search" feature... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:04, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

:: It's [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=%22i+can+make+it+on+my+own%22&go=Go real easy] to search. Forward referencing is bogus: Is the 5,000 year old soy food we call "tofu" a reference to [[The Luau]]? --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

::: No, but I would expect to see [[Wikipedia:John Quincy Adams|John Quincy Adams]] mentioned on a page about [[Wikipedia:John Adams|John Adams]]. Earlier emails tend to be less cluttered with fun facts anyway. It seems wrong not to mention [[flashback]] on [[some kinda robot]]'s page. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 09:46, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::: That's a historical fact, not trivia about a cartoon series. And the biggest difference is, John Adams did not suddenly cease to be the moment that JQA was born. And, to me, it seems wrong TO mention flashback on some kinda robot. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:56, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)

::::: I'm really not sure what you mean here by "John Adams did not suddenly cease to be", can you please clarify? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 04:31, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::::: Somewhat poor wording on my part, but I stand by the sentiment. I mean that Adams, Sr. did not die before Adams, Jr. was born. It would be difficult to tell the life story of Adams, Sr. without at least mentioning Adams, Jr., because the two's timelines overlapped. But if someone was writing a biography on George Washington, would they say "George Washington was the great-great-great grandfather of Terrance Washington"? (I made that name up, but you get the point.) Even if Terrance Washington was actually a famous person? No. You could very easily tell the whole story without ever mentioning Terrence. Maybe you could put this information in Terrance's biography, but it would have no place in George's. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)

: To be frank, my big problem with forward referencing is that it violates the [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] rule. Care to disagree with me on this one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:24, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)

:: I think Once and Only Once is often overapplied, but that's a different discussion. The kind of references we are talking about here are little more than a link and some explanation of why that page relates to this one. I think something on [[guitar]] along the lines of "A line very similar to the last line of this song appeared in [[dragon]]" is informative and reasonable. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 04:28, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)

::: But what does it have to do with [[guitar]]??? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:56, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

: My goodness. There's a forward reference epidemic these days. It really bothers me, people. Does anyone at all besides beanluc agree with me? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:56, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

:: I know I don't. I find it can be nice to mention how they took aspects from one e-mail and then expanded upon them, for those not in the know. There's not really any NEED to purge the Wiki of links to e-mails that happened later, that kind of goes against the readability aspect of it all. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:21, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

::: It clutters the pages rather than adding to the readability. I mean, what should we do to [[japanese cartoon]], state that "Stinkoman appears again in (this) and (that) and (this other thing) and (something else) and..." It's easier to only refer backwards, so you only have to mention it once (per page)! And I ask again: what is wrong with the Search feature?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:25, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

::::More effort. It's easier to scroll down, see that this idea was expanded upon, think "hmm, I want to know more about this" and click a relevant link than it is to come upon the thought on your own, think "hmm, I want to know more about this" and then do a search for the term and spend time searching through numerous pages to find what it is you're looking for, or to hit Back, look throughout the list of e-mails for the e-mail you ''think'' has the pertainent information and look through that. Yes, I'm lazy, I know, I don't care. I know some people out there will be just the same.

::::That said, it's not that it shouldn't be done period, it's about what the content is. Posting links to everything Stinkoman's been in is better left to [[:Category:Stinkoman Filmography]] (to borrow from your own example), while mentioning that the VCR blinking 12:00 in [[stand-up]] was expanded upon in [[12:00]] is quite acceptable, IMO. That said, linking should probably be limited to one or two forward references to a specific detail at a time; any more, and it might as well have its own page and that should be linked to instead. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:58, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Who decides? ==

Awhile back I saw the STUFF page was quickly bloating, so I moved some of the unanimous declined facts to their appropriate Talk page. In the end, who has the authority to approve or decline a fact after X amount of time? I got back from vacation and again the STUFF page is heavily saturated, mostly with "un-fun" or "non-fact" funfacts that should have been deleted immediately instead of simply STUFFed.

In the end, who makes the decision? [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 21:54, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Exactly what I've been wondering, hence my proposal that the majority decide after a certain amount of time. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

I've decided to be bold and archive anything started in November from which a clear outcome could be gathered (all permutations of "accept" combined are not a majority or one permutation has more votes than all others combined). I've moved them to the archive page because that was the first choice shown, and I've put comments on anything I didn't move that was started in November. I also checked/updated the wiki pages for consistency with the result.

I'm proposing that we base the question of whether the fun fact can be added or removed without concluding the voting on the number of votes in favor of a particular outcome, <s>and that we archive en masse for a particular time period (say, every week or so, we archive everything older than 2 or 3 weeks). It's too difficult to determine when a particular fun fact was added to base decisions of what to do about it on that (unless we use the "history" page to look for things added in a certain date range)</s>. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 18:50, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

*sighs* The discussion above says two weeks. I'm going to wait a few days and then, if I don't get any major objections (barring comments about where the archived fun facts should go), I'm going to start checking for facts that were added over 2 weeks ago and archive/comment those. I've just realized that you could simply check the difference between a page from 2 weeks ago and a current page, and compare THAT with a current version. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 21:29, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Did our voting system explode? ==

In the fun fact [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts#Quadratic_formula|Quadratic formula]], there are 7 votes to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This means that there is a majority for keeping it in some form, but the majority cannot agree on WHAT form. Do we use the simple majority system (decline DID get the most votes)? Do we require an actual majority (more than half for any particular side or the fun fact is rejected)? My preferred system is that we start by regarding "modify and accept" as "decline", and see if we can accept it as is. Then we add each particular "modify" suggestion to the "accept" column in order from most to least popular (simultaneously if they have the same number of votes) until we run out and decline the thing or have enough votes to accept with modifications. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:34, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*I think the simplest option is simply to count each option as a separate choice. Count 7 accepts, 8 declines and 2 modifies, meaning decline wins. Seems simple enough to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*Okay here's my idea. Count up all the votes. Accept is worth two points, Weak Accept is one, Weak Decline is -1, and Decline is -2. Add up all the points and if the result is a positive number then you accept it. If its a negative number you decline it. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 17:16, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Woah! That's a great idea. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 16:01, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I think people are using '''Weak''' just to express a personal opinion, not a weight. I know that when i write '''Weak Decline''', I really mean '''Decline'''. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*On the contrary, I think people are using '''Weak''' to express a weight. There are many instances by lots of different people that bear this out. When I say '''Weak Decline''', I mean that I'm leaning towards declining but I don't feel strongly about it. If someone came in with an '''Accept''', I think that carries more weight. And you can't just go by the bare numbers—you have to read the comments. I think a brilliant argument in one direction can trump two or three poor arguments in the other direction. Take [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts#Bedroom_Window|Bedroom Window]] as an example (and ignore the off-topic grammar discussion for now). Obviously, people were voting to accept the fact without doing any research. Once you watch the toon, it's clear that the vote should have been unanimous decline. Lastly, a vote to '''Revise''' is still a vote to accept the idea, if not the wording. Nobody says '''Revise and Decline.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I agree with your '''Revise''' idea, but I don't think that votes can be counted on someone's opinion of the arguments and often people don't put any sort of argument at all. I think that votes would be more accurately counted if they were translated into numbers. If someone voted for the President for the wrong reasons would their vote count any less? No because one person's wrong reasons could be someone else's right reasons. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:38, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*The whole STUFF system, while it's a good idea, needs some major reform. I think you may be on to something there with the numbers. What if we had some kind of point system, say from -5 to +5, like this:
**'''[-3] Decline.''' I don't think so. --[[Main_Page|Frat Party]]
**'''[+5] Super Accept.''' This is a great fact. I cannot believe I did not see it before. --[[Main_Page|Datalore]]
**'''[+3] Revise and Accept.''' I think the fact is good, but it should be fixed a little. --[[Main_Page|StayPuft Marshmallows]]
***'''[+3] Second.''' --[[Main_Page|The Karate Kid]]
**'''[-5] BALEETED!''' Oh, c'mon! There's no way this fact should be in there! --[[Main_Page|Catbert]]
**'''[-1] Weak Decline.''' What do you get from a glut of TV? A pain in the neck and an IQ of 3. --[[Main_Page|Oompa Loompa]]
: 
:We also need some kind of time limit, established from when a fact is posted, so that we can close out some of these old items. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::I think that this point system is a bad idea. I've seen plenty of cases where somebody puts "INFINIATE ACCEPTANCE! I think this fact is cute!" whereas the people Declining the fact actually have good reasons ("Uh, this fact is blatantly incorrect..."). <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:::What do you propose instead? We're going to have to start quantifying these votes somehow. We could reduce it to a simple yes or no vote, but don't you think we would lose some of the flexibility we have now? If we had a point system where you had to stay within a specified range, an INFINITE ACCEPTANCE (+5) could easily be offset by two regular Declines (-3). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*We need to keep this simple. Here's a proposal. Any '''Accept''' +1 ... any '''Decline''' -1. Exceptions. Any revision suggestion is ignored. I've seen STUFFs with all kinds of proposed revisions. How do you know what you're voting for? Vote on the issue at hand ONLY. Open a new vote for a revision. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Another proposal based on the weighted votes above ... forget the '''Infintite Acceptance''' idea. Allow weighted votes from 1 to 5. Vote like this '''Accept[n]''' or '''Decline[n]''' where ''n'' is the weight the user wishes to give to the vote. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:57, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Okay, I want to know what's wrong with the simple proposal of +1 for accept and -1 for decline. Really, what's the problem? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:58, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. If we were voting, I'd give this an '''Infinite Second to a Strong Accept'''. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I didn't mean that I thought anyone should ever vote for "Infinite" Acceptance. I actually think we should do away with cutesy votes, like '''Baleeted''', '''Del Taco''', '''Acceptamundo''', and so on. (I'd be sad to see them go, since I think they add character, but sometimes you've gotta make hard decisions.) After some reflection I advocate limiting votes to the following five choices: '''Decline''', '''Weak Decline''', '''Weak Accept''', '''Accept''', and '''Second'''. I haven't figured out how I think '''Revise''' should fit in. I dunno. This is giving me a headache. There's ''got'' to be a way to make this simple and effective. The quest continues... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
** My second proposal (which attempts to be a simplification of earlier proposals) does away with vote labels and seconding. Just vote yea or nay and assign a value from 1 to 5. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Problem: How are we going to get the general public to start using such a number system? They are used to using a simple accept/decline already, and it will be hard to break their habit. Other than that I think the value idea is a good idea, but not as good as [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki_talk:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts#Fun_Fact_Confirmation_Committee_.28FFCC.29 this idea]. -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

== FORMAT PROPERLY ==

Tch. I leave the Wiki for a couple of weeks and when I come back, all the Fun Facts at the top of the page look like this:

=== Fun Fact Name ===

*The fun fact.
**'''A vote.''' --[[User:Upsilon|A User]]
*'''Another vote.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Somebody else]]
*'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Another User]]

Fun facts in STUFF look like this:

=== Fun Fact Name ===
The fun fact.

*'''A vote.''' --[[User:Upsilon|A User]]
*'''Another vote.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Somebody else]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Another User]]

Perhaps we should put something about STUFF on [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]]? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== Wow, jeez ==

I stop paying attention to the wiki for a while and STUFF degenerates into madness. I'm starting to have severe second thoughts about this whole STUFF thing, since the point of STUFF wasn't to have every single fun fact ever created put up on the page, especially in clumps of two or three. Aiiiggh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:49, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
:Yeah, I kinda thought people were always a bit too anal about what goes and doesn't go in the Fun Facts section. I mean, there are some really bad ones (I mean '''really''' bad), but then, there are several ones that kind of have merit but get turned down pretty quickly. I don't really get why, outside of the "it causes clutter" argument... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:08, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Could we, maybe, organize by date and archive on the talk pages? ==

I just read the above discussion, but I wasn't sure if this is really a response to it or not so I've just made this a new section.

Ok, I like the STUFF page and would hate to see it go, mainly because I would have to watch the entire wiki to participate in the discussion that goes on there (aside from fixing random errors). Apparently it's getting to be too big and difficult to manage. I've noticed that entries added to the bottom of the page have gotten little attention. Someone (I think it was Upsilon, but I don't have the discussion page open anymore) suggested a time limit. I've been attempting to enforce that, but it's big and difficult to manage anyway (there's also a lot of stuff there that I can't resolve). I don't think anyone really wants to have to look in the page history to figure out what's old enough to archive (or what's been added recently). So I think new entries should be added to the top of the page, ala [[Wikipedia:WP:VFD]] (but without the subpage, that's annoying). Of course, this would also mean no links to specific toon sections..because there wouldn't be any.. So we'd archive on talk pages once things are resolved (which doesn't necessairily always correspond to a time limit, though I still think it would be helpful to have one at least as a guideline..or as the normal rule..).

If actually figuring out when the entries were added is a problem, I could certainly take a specific revision of the real STUFF page, dive into the history, and rearrainge everything into a subpage on my User space or something.. In fact, maybe I'll do that anyway..if I get flamed or something.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:50, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Somebody needs to do some clean-up... ==

I'm seeing a LOT of IP/nameless users casting votes here. Problem is, it's stated right in the intro section that you can't vote unless you're registered and sign... so it looks to me like we have a lot of cleaning up to do here.

I was ''going'' to do it, but I can't say as doing it without any warning would've been very polite. So, anyone agree with me, or more importantly, willing to do the deed? I will, if nobody minds me doing it. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:17, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)
:It appears the general practice here is to make a reply explaining that the vote must be signed. This makes it clear that it's not countable without actually removing the vote, which would be annoying for people who actually HAD user accounts and forgot to sign properly or log in.. <s>--[[User:66.71.5.167|66.71.5.167]] 06:39, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)</s> (or, as in my case just now, didn't realize they were logged out) --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 06:41, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Actually, what is says is that "anonymous votes do not count", which I don't think is quite the same as "anonymous users ''can't'' vote." If an anonymous user lists a good reason in their "vote" it should probably be left there. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 02:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

There's some other clean-up that needs to be done here as well. If there's an issue of an alleged "fun fact" that is clearly neither or is obviously just plain silly, is it wrong to just go ahead and get rid of it? Some of this stuff is just cluttering up and others have been on for months. I had submitted a reference for [virus] - it got a couple accept votes, but then nothing after a while. Finally I went ahead and moved it myself. I was afraid that if I didn't do it, it would get lost in the pile of madness this page has degenerated into. At what point is it OK for us to start trimming down this page so that worthwhile voting can take place? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:55, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)

Somebody obviously took a lot of time messing around with the code all over the page, it's showing up all htmlish and wiki-codeish everywhere, broken titles there, one bracket here, another 483834 posts that have been spelt wrong, and a gigantic discussion about a friggin 'ping' noise.
--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

: The HTML crap was apparently a spam troll and has been reverted. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:22, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
:: The "Pardack" HTML spam troll is back... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:55, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
:::Dealt with. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:00, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
::::Okay, cause I was getting pretty annoyed with that. I tried fixing part of it myself, but it didn't really work... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 08:15, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Joke votes ==

Can we make joke votes a Wiki-trollable offense? I'm kidding, slightly, but they're getting a little out of hand. As of 2/15/2005, the following joke votes have been included (all of them save one are anonymous, so they don't count, but they still do EXACTLY what STUFF was supposed to prevent: cluttered pages):

* '''Eh! Steve''' - In what was already a worthless fact (a later return of Eh! Steve), a "Revise, Accept" vote was added to make it MORE worthless by mentioning another Eh! Steve appearance.
* '''Car? Not no more''' - The fact refers to SB's mentioning of a car before the [[car]] email. The "Accept" vote claimed to know things that the writer could not have known, and determined that SB must have had a car because he dressed up as CARmen twice.
* '''Coincidencem''' - The fact itself is debatable; it refers to the return of a can graphic. But the "Third" vote is clearly a joke vote, as it brings up the fact that "1936 was a long time ago" as if that adds to the validity or lack thereof of said fact.
* '''Electrical Tape?''' - The fact mistakenly equated duct tape with electrical tape and made a shaky assertion. The "Accept" vote is clearly a joke vote, as all it says is "If ever one loved his electrical tape, twas Pom Pom."
* '''Losing his touch''' - The "fact" (about the quality of two emails) was an opinion, and one "Accept" vote mentioned no documented cases of anyone laughing at two emails.
* '''Baby Doll Crazy Dance''' - The fact was incomplete (referred to "an Atari game, but I can't remember which one.) Joke vote said it was "good to go" as it was.
* '''Edgar's anachronism''' - The fact itself, about when viruses were first created vs. Edgarware, is debatable, but the (currently) final vote is not - "Keep the mention of Fred Cohen, cuz he is cool." Ditch the vote, because it's a joke.
* '''Computer viruses''' - The absolute crap fact that shouldn't have been on STUFF in the first place mentioned twelve viruses on the writer's computer. One "Accept" vote with "I didn't know that." litters the otherwise-unanimous declines.
* '''Reynold's Wrap''' - Refers to a product that wasn't even mentioned in the 'toon in question. Olene's vote and subsquent self-second is probably a joke vote in and of itself, and then another (anonymous) vote mentions Reynold the character - which has nothing to do with the fact.
* '''Dan vs. Jerome''' - The fact itself is debatable, but the final "delete" vote only repeats the fact, placing "Strong Bad" in place of "Homestar" (which is CLEARLY false.)
* '''Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts''' - The fact is already in the transcript, which didn't stop a joke voter from stating that the transcript didn't include the words "clearly told".
* '''Biscuit Dough Relations''' - The fact itself is untrue garbage through and through, and yet it has a "Prepetually accept" vote with nonsense as its reasoning, a "how do you know it's not true" acceptance vote (followed by a "how do you know it is?" from yours truly), and a revision that includes every last error that was mentioned in the previous Decline votes and then some.

And I probably missed some. I'm ready to go through and simply delete all these votes on the subject of being anonymous stupidity, but I'll let other people give their opinions first.

And if you don't sign your response, I'll ignore it!!! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:20, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

UPDATE: It seems to be [[User:Dingell|Dingell]] who is responsible for at least some of the joke votes. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:55, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
:'''Second second second second ''SECOND'''''. I don't really care if this isn't something to vote on; I agree very strongly. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:17, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

:You agree that it's me, or that the votes should be deleted?? Anyways, do as you will. And Fred Cohen is cool (cooler than Kevin DuBrow at any rate). --[[User:Dingell|Dingell]]
:: It's not all you. But I think he was agreeing with the "delete them" sentiment. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:56, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
:: Yeah, it was removing the joke votes I second, not you in particular. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:47, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
I agree. It gets really annoying because you can't just disregard the vote because of the obvious sarcasm (unless it's anonymous)

I totally agree - there doesn't seem to be any consensus on just when it's OK to delete this stuff, so sooner or later, someone's got to take action. We need to get rid of these obvious clutter-facts and go through and count votes for ones that really ought to have been decided by now. Certain long ones like the stupid "ping" noise one and the "quadratic formula" one should be moved to their respective Talk pages for further discussion if it's unclear whether they're accepted or not. Let's clear the way for things to move on here. The longer these useless ones stay up, the more they incite people to add more useless ones to the page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
:I went through and moved to archive those fun facts that had been either unanimously declined or overwhelmingly declined. It doesn't seem like much of an improvement, but anything is better than the way it was before. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:55, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
::One issue: Often cluttered in those jokes in a vote. People have a right to their oppinion, so you must respect it (even in a single "accpept" vote in otherwise unanimous declines). It's unjust to delete the enitre post just because they decided to add a joke. I say you delete the joke part of the vote, but keep the actual vote intact. If necessary, write something like "so-and-so voted '''Accept''', however their vote was removed because it consituded a joke. *sign here*". But you have to keep the bare "accept" or "decline" vote to keep things just. -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:10, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
::: Which is utterly meaningless - the joke votes (which I haven't seen much of recently) were almost all unsigned and didn't count anyway, so they were just wasting space. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:51, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

=="This is the first time that..."==

I agree with the consensus that the "When *something* happens, this is the first time that *whatever is referenced*" fun facts should not be going on any of the toons or e-mails pages, but what about adding something about them to the character's bio page? For example, a mention of a certain character having parents should not go on the page for the toon where it occurs but rather on the character's bio page. This may be covered elsewhere, but I also might just be off my rocker - anyone agree or disagree? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:35, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
* I'm a little unclear on your wording. The first time ''something is referenced''? That's really silly, I concur (especially since "first references" to SB's parents have been various - don't ask me for the logic there). The first time ''something happens''? That's something else entirely. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:48, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Sorry - should be more like "When _____ happens in the toon, this is the first time it is referenced that ____ has/does/says _____." My point is that these particular references shouldn't clutter the individual toon pages but should rather go on the bio pages for the character/item/place/etc. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:49, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
*** ... I'm sorry, I'm still unclear on your exact meaning. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:56, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** Oy... OK, examples:
:::::"When Strong Bad talks about his 'poopaw' this is one of the few times there is a reference to Strong Bad having parents..." (actual proposed Fun Fact for [[secret recipe]]) - this shouldn't go on the Secret Recipe page, but rather (should it be at all note-worthy) a mention should go in Strong Bad's bio page, something to the effect of: "Strong Bad mentions his 'poopaw' in Secret Recipe."

:::::"This email implies that Homestar Runner has an email address, which we have no reason to believe because he is always using Strong Bad's computer." (from [[credit card]]) - this shouldn't go on Credit Card's page (if it's even accepted as being factual), but rather something should go on Homestar's bio page, such as: "In Credit Card, it's revealed that Homestar has an e-mail address."
:::: I find it very interesting that after your comment here:
:::::*When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
:::::** ''Decline every last case'' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --Jay
::::...you're finding what I'm trying to say so confusing. Though like I said, I could be completely off my rocker and this entire line of discussion totally unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:21, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
::::: Uh, if that's the case I have to say... no. I don't agree. If they don't belong in the Trivia section of the toons in question, I don't see how they belong in the character pages any better. And what confused me was your wording. It was difficult to parse your sentences to mean the first time ANYTHING happens, or the first time that something is INFERRED to happen, or the first time that something is MENTIONED... in which case, it belongs only if it's relevant and correct (the problem with the parents line and the Strong Sad line is that neither is correct in any case but one, but people keep adding them. For instance, in [[radio]], people kept trying to add that it was the first time SS had smiled, which is patently not true - and only barely relevant.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:44, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Fun Facts ==

I have something about the categories in Fun Facts and I couldn't think of anywhere to put this. I think that all pages with a ton of fun facts need to be divided into categories and, because this order is what usually appears on pages with the categories, this should be the order: 
Explanations 
Trivia 
Remarks 
Goofs 
Glitches 
Inside References 
Real-World References 
Fast-Forward

This is what it seems to be on most of the pages. This will make it look a lot cleaner and have the fun facts easier to find. Any objections?
→[[User:evin290|evin290]] 08:42, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)
: As the one who was responsible for splitting the sbemails and a few other 'toons - and, in fact, coming up with the categories - you know I'm for it. I've noticed FireBird splitting some of the main toons, though he didn't always keep to that exact order. (I've been off-and-on busy with real-world stuff meself, which is why I haven't joined in the fun.) BTW, hope you don't mind that I formatted your post. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:49, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Where the Cheat is at? ==

Sorry about the "Where the cheat is at?" dealie. I must have started editing before the title was changed and posted it afterward. Sorry for the confusion →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:11, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
:You aren't the one who changed it, so it's not your fault by any means. (Unless that IP addy was you. In which case, eh, whatever, it's cool now.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:19, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
::Nope that poisson isn't me.

== Archive or Talk? ==

I just noticed a fair number of the STUFF items that I had Verdict'd and summarized and moved to appropriate Talk pages were just recently moved to the STUFF Archive page... complete with full discussion, even though the discussion was not included on the STUFF page once I summarized it. I'm loathe to revert either of these pages (though I may revert the Archive page, since the discussions are repeated unnecessarily now) but I think we need to come up with a definitive consensus as to what happens to Declined STUFF items. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:04, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== contest the removal ==

<pre>These were on the STUFF page and declined. If you wish to contest the removal of any of
these, post a comment here (make sure it won't be confused with any of the original votes).
</pre>

Does this mean we can vote for declined fun facts? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 12:07, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

*I don't think that's the intended result, rather that if someone has a problem with it, post a comment and discussion can begin again on that Fun Fact - think of it as an appeal to a guilty verdict. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Removing Summarized Items/Verdicts ==

The page is once more becoming bloated. Unless anyone has objections, I will begin removing items that have been closed and moved to their respective Talk pages and/or Archive sections (in the case of Declined items) from February on back. Items that were accepted will be placed in the Archive section so that in case an Accepted item is STUFF'd again, the verdict will still be viewable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:21, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

I like that idea. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:16, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Headline text ==
I'm sorry about my added fun fact. I forgot. Especially what it even was, please tell me.--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 05:05, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Oh boy... ==

I'm starting to get Edit Conflicts on this page. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 16:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:Do you mean on this talk page or the article itself? Ima test both. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 16:28, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Nevermind, it works now. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 15:45, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
: Edit conflicts show up when someone has gotten ahead of you in editing the page. One time when it happens is when someone adds another item (a toon heading and/or another fun fact) above yours, which then pushes the ID numbers of all the headings below it up by one. Another time is if you are working on the full page and someone else pops in a smaller edit (or the whole page) before you. It's a pain to have to resolve, especially on a page this big, but that's why it happens. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 03:53, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==No TOC==

Why is there no Table of Contents on the STUFF page? Itg would be soo much easier to naviguate the page with one.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:04, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Fun Fact Confirmation Committee (FFCC)==

There are soo many incorrect fun facts out there that I think we need a committee divoted to removing said facts. Just by looking arround the random pages makes me want to hurl a brick through my screen. And, once these facts are removed someone just resertes them. Not only that, but people are removing fun facts that are perfectly acceptible. Its annoying! Even the Stuff page doesnt work well. Thus, I propose this committie to have power over what facts stay and what goes. They are given a protocol, and if a fact passes the protocol than committie confirms the fun fact (perhaps by typing confirmed and signing) and removing/stufing fun fact (maybe put "rejected/stuffed by FFCC" in the comment section) so that way some one has a final word on these fun facts. What does everyone think?

***I agree, in garage sale, coach Z originally said, "OH, so I'm okay then", rather than "OH, so I'm okay to say it"(this was changed within a couple of days). When I added this, it was deleted, and the guy who did still wouldn't respond to what I posted on his disscussion page about it. On the other hand, there are many that seem to be opinions that no one deletes. I still don't see how the "Ilko becoming a train" easter egg in "cheat day" was a final fantasy reference(It porbably isn't), yet no one deletes it, and if I do it will likely get reverted. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*No one?-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 22:39, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:For a different reason, we've seen something like this before - some guy took initiative to give little "gold stars" to facts he liked. Unfortunately, this proved to be EXTREMELY arbitrary - he'd give gold stars to facts that weren't that great at all, while facts similar to his starred ones would go unstarred. Plus, it just feels like your solution gives unfair power to non-sysops. And most new users would add the bad facts anyway, if they could. I understand where you're coming from, but I don't believe there IS any good solution other than keeping a close eye on the pages and revert, revert, revert. BTW, the reason that other user had "gold stars" was that the Fun Facts were generally accepted to be too cluttered (this was before we started splitting them into subcategories.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:42, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*But this would be a committie of multiple people with expreience on fun fact and the Stuff page. JoeyDay likes the Idea -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 23:09, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**We already have a FFCC: It's the entire H*R Wiki community. Facts are added by the community and deleted by the community. Facts in dispute get STUFFed by the community and are accepted or rejected by the community. I admit that the STUFF process may need a little work, but all-in-all I don't think we need a separate committee. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
***The problem with that though is that people just add things without fully confirming them. At least the FFCC will be composed of multiple people divoted to keeping the fun facts accurate and clean, while folowwing a protocol to ensure correctness. It would be much more edicated than just the communittee itself.-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:05, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

== What the crap happened? ==

I'm looking at the previous versions of STUFF, and a LOT has been removed by [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]]. Did someone comission him to do this, <s>or is he just trolling? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:36, 2 May 2005 (UTC)</s> Okay, so he's not trolling. However, is the new page formatted well enough? (I was gonna lobby for one, but I think his really needs to be re-formatted). --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:45, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
:No I'm not Trolling, just doing some heavy cleaning. But please, by all means I think a format for the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd]] page is a good idea. All I did was just drop it in. And no, this was entirely my idea. I got tired of waiting for "someone else" to clean up our beloved STUFF page so I did it myself. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:11, 2 May 2005 (PDT)

== I don't think we need STUFF anymore ==

STUFF isn't reliable and I think has out lived any usefulness it may have had. I'm all for following what Drhaggis has been saying all along. That is, useing the talk pages for what they are for. We should be discussing the content of articles there, not here with this "voting" system.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:04, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. It has been overrun, getting cluttered, and just not useful anymore. Let's stick to the talk pages. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::Hear, hear. I may not be famous here, but I think this system just dilutes people's minds with mob psycology. [[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 01:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

*Indeed. . . .it would seem that the STUFF page was being hijacked into a forum. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:33, 2 May 2005 (PDT)

I agree! Let's stuff STUFF! {{User:Rainer/sig}} 11:07, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

:I'm quite tired of seeing every other edit on Recent Changes being STUFF. Let's trash this- soon. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
::We have the ability to hide certain edits—minor ones and so on. Could we make it so that STUFF edits could be hidden as well? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:44, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

::I agree you guys. It is taking up way too much space. It doesn't seem that important to keep it. What sort of system will we use if this stuff is back on the talk pages? How will the ultimate decisions be made if there's no voting? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:11, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

:::We'll still vote- just not in one huge page. If no one cares too much about a fun fact to not vote for it, I'm sure you'll be albe to just delete it. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

:I agree. STUFF is dulling the senses. It makes people not want to edit if they have a slightly wrong fun fact, because with STUFF, it will most likely be put up for all to see (note my fiasco with Bumdumbourge and Totalslava). It's much easier on people to see facts deleted outright- it makes people more '''bold''' to do things without fear of ridicule. And that's my two cents. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:27, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

:The STUFF page is way too long, as well. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 07:57, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

'''I disagree.''' Having a central STUFF page is vital to the success of keeping track of fun facts. In particular:
#If the votes were moved to their respective talk pages, I strongly believe that few users—even the more savvy ones—would be able to scour the recent changes page enough to keep up with what facts were being voted on and where, especially considering that facts on the STUFF page aren't limited to just the newest H*R updates.
#On the other hand, a central STUFF location lets a user check just one page and make several votes on different facts at the same time.
#A casual voter can check the page as little as once a week and still remain current and influential. Which is what we want in a wiki—the more input, the better.
#A side effect of the page is that it makes it easy to get to know the personalities in our community.
With that in mind, however, I'm not saying the STUFF page couldn't use reform. Yes, it's long. Yes, it's disorganized. And yes, it could use some formatting improvements, but that's because it's still relatively young. It's experiencing growing pains. With a little effort, I believe these things can be fixed over time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:44, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

:How's about moving the possible fun facts and votes to the talk pages but keep the STUFF page up as a way of linking to each of these places seperately and displaying verdicts when they're finished? --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 00:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
::Personally, I just want something that'd help prevent duplicate sections (when there's an [[island]] section down below, AND the newest STUFF'd fact creates a new [[island]] section up top). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Deleting old fun facts ==

Why are there so many old, already voted fun facts on this page? It's just bloating up the page. We should remove any fun facts that has been verdicted more than a week ago. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 19:38, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Second''' lol. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

== Users voting more than once? ==

I know we went over this once before, but I'm starting to think that the same guy we suspended for voting more than once using different usernames is doing it again. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Ya, I'm seeing that a whole lot!
[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

==STUFF reform==
Hey, everybody. I've got a page I'd like you to check out. [[User:It's dot com/STUFF reform]]. It took me a long time to create it, and I would value your input. (You can use the talk page there.) Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*Scratch previous comment; it IS templated. It's just a really big template. Well, it looks okay to me other than the size of the coding block... but I suppose that's a little unavoidable... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 08:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, and is there some reason why you didn't link to my name whenever I popped up in the examples? :p --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 08:18, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

:Apparently special sigs don't work with the tables. Did the same to me. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:51, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
:Whoa! Nice work there. At least this gets rid of those petty little arguments. :) --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 09:40, 17 Jun 2005 (EST)

== This is a Headline ==
I love STUFF. I love to debate, give my opinion, and actually have a say in something's fate! As a matter of fact, a critic or lawyer might be my "Plan B" for a career! STUFF is great practice. The page is getting mighty obese, though. A couple of headlines up, there was a suggestion about deleting already-verdicted fun facts after a week or so. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE! IT WOULD CUT DOWN ON STUFF'S PAGE LENGTH BY AT LEAST 1/3! (YES I HAVE TO YELL!)
[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

== TOC ==

Who the heck decided to take down the table of contents? THIS THING IS HUGE! We need one! --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:32, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Because the TOC is huge, too. It counts not just every cartoon in question, but every fact being debated, too, making the list REAAAALLLY long; even on my huge 1280x1024 screen size, it takes a while to scroll past it. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:38, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Call me a noob, but is it possible to simply list all of the cartoons on a TOC without going to each disputed fact? Besides, I dnno about you but even if the TOC were huge, clicking on it would be a heck of a lot easier than scrolling and trying to find it. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:43, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::There's no way that I know of to remove specific headlines from the TOC, it's either all or none. We could make the headers for the individual facts just bold text, then they wouldn't be in the TOC, but then there wouldn't be an [edit] link for it, you'd have to edit the whole toon. Just use the Search button in the browser (Fx's search rocks! Just type "/Senorial Day" and there you are!) {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:[[User:Rainer/Sandbox|I think I has the solution!]]. But we should create a template for it, like...

<pre>
<h4>{{{title}}}</h4>
</pre>

... so we just have to type (if we call the template "====") <code><nowiki>{{====|title=You said doyng again!}}</nowiki></code>. I ''think'' that would work. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 00:55, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:You don't even need the <nowiki></nowiki> thing (I don't even know what that's meant to mean...) - just using <nowiki><h4></nowiki> instead of ==== does the trick. Good find! It does mean we lose the edit section links though... {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:37, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't know what it means either, all I did was look on the page's source code, and copied the subheading and surrounding text. I thought that the "<nowiki></nowiki>" might have been needed (I didn't really know what I was doing). {{User:Rainer/sig}}

HRWiki:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:10:29 GMT

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HRWiki:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:03:50 GMT

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SBEmail22 — Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:03:17 GMT

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flashback

SBEmail22 — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:00:12 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Remarks */

[[Image:sbemailahundred.png|thumb|300px|Puttin' their weight on it.]]

'''Strong Bad Email #100'''

The long-anticipated 100th Email, where Jon from NH asks Strong Bad how long he has known Homestar Runner. It ends up as a big spoof on the original Homestar children's book, in WIDESCREEEEEEEEEEEEN!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Coach Z]], [[Prince of Town]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Bubs]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Mr. Bland]], [[Señor]], [[The Cheat]], [[Limozeen]] (Easter egg), [[Senor Cardgage]] (Easter egg), [[1936 Strong Bad]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Moon]], [[The Sweet Sweet Rainbow Bridge]], [[The Field]], [[Marzipan's House]] (Easter egg), [[Telegraph Room]] (Easter egg)

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' March 16, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 5:00

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD''': ONE TWO THREE FOUR ''{starts singing hard rock with instruments in the background}'' EMAIL IS AWESOME, EMAIL IS WEIRD, EMAIL IS AWESOME AND EMAIL IS WEIRD! And I'll never forget the way it was, GRRRL...uh!

''{Starts reading in his old accent. However, the text is in the style of Tandy, and it is in fact the [[some_kinda_robot|very first e-mail]] he's ever done.}''

<blockquote class="tandy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
 
Do you take your wrestling mask and boxing 
gloves off before you go to bed? 
 
Sincerely, 
Abdi LaRue 
San Diego, CA</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{He stops reading at "before you go to."}'' dajede...wait a minute! ''{hits Compy, the text fixes itself to be a new email}'' There we go!

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="email">Hey there, Strong Bad! 
I was wondering. How long have you 
known Homestar? Is there some sort of 
flashback that could describe how 
and when you guys met? 
Your Fan, 
Jon, NH</blockquote>

''{Instead of "New Hampshire," Strong Bad says "No Hamsters."}''

''{typing}'' Oh, I got flashbacks alright, Jon. I'm like, Discount Flashback Warehouse over here. But this particular flashback has way too much historical significance to be shown in anything but WIDESCREEEEEEEEEEEEN. Left side: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAH! ''{As he says this with a resonating noise, the left side of the screen expands out. His next one he doesn't type.}'' Right side: WOOOOOAHH—''{the right side of the screen expands out to show Homestar standing there}'' Wha-uh, what are you doin' over there?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Oh, I'm pretty much here every week. It's just that usually I'm behind the black.

'''STRONG BAD''': I guess I should start...lookin' to the right more often.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': In fact, I think I might live here.

'''STRONG BAD''': I don't think so. If you lived here, you'd have less non-broken bones. And more crushed spirits.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{looking dejected}'' Yes, sir.

'''STRONG BAD''': Frame shift left! WOOOOOAAHHH! ''{The screen starts shifting left to get Homestar out of the shot.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': See ya after the flashback!

''{We go to a picture of Strong Bad on the moon with a tennis racket. The drawing is in the style of the original children's book and we see that it's just a parody of that style. Although, the characters are still somewhat animated. Strong Bad doesn't read every little piece of text, so the text that's there that he doesn't read will be included in a parenthetical when it occurs.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Strong Bad meets the Homestar Runner.

''{The book turns the page to a picture of just Strong Bad.}''

Everyone loves Strong Bad. He is an okay guy.

''(The book turns the page to a picture of Strong Bad and Coach Z playing tennis on the moon.}''

One day Strong Bad was finishing up a game of tennis on the moon with his pal, the Coach Z. He won 1,000,000 to 3. "You see, 3 is clearly a smaller number than a million," said Strong Bad. "Ooooooh. Now I understand."

''{Turn the page to them flying down a rainbow from the moon to earth.}''

They flew on a sweet, sweet rainbow bridge back down to Free Country USA.

''{Turn the page to Coach Z holding a towel and talking to Strong Bad.}''

"I'ma go shower up!" said the Coach Z. "Gross!" said Strong Bad. "Shut up!"

''{Turn the page to see Strong Bad walking toward a giant pink egg with yellow spots.}''

Walking home, Strong Bad came upon a big ol' egg. "Waaaaaaaaagh!"

''{Turn the page to a closer view of Strong Bad and the egg.}''

"I wonder what's inside," thought tiny-handed Strong Bad.

''{Turn the page to see Homestar behind the egg wearing a yellow shirt with a duck on it.}''

"Hello! How do you like my egg, Mr. Strong Bad?" said a voice from behind. "Who the crap are you, Duckshirt?" asked No-shirt. "I'm The Homestar Runner!" said the duckshirt. "Some folk say I'm a terrific athlete."

''{Turn the page to a closer view of the scene.}''

"Well I folk say you're a terrific liar!" ''(said Strong Bad.)'' "This is plainly my egg. ''{in a King of Town voice}'' "What's all the commotion about?"

''{Turn the page to zoom out to see the Prince of Town looking at Strong Bad and Homestar.}''

...said the svelt, young Prince of Town. "And who's this weirdo in the duckie shirt?" "I'm The Homestar Runner! Some folk say I'm a terrific ''(athlete!" said Duckshirt.)'' "Prancibald over here says this egg belongs to him, when I found it first."

''{Turn the page to a closeup of the Prince of Town.}''

"We'll settle this with a ten-step footrace."

''{Turn the page to see a bunch of the gang, including some characters from the original children's book, watching Strong Bad and Homestar at the start line of a race.}''

And so they all gathered for a ten-step footrace. The slim and trim young Prince of Town explained the rules. ''{a piece of paper shows up reading: "Ten-step Footrace Official Rules. Rule One. Whoever goes the most distance in ten steps, will be the winner! Rule Two. No biting."}'' "Whoever goes the most distance in ten steps, will be the winner!"

''{Turn the page to see Strong Bad and Homestar at the line and Marzipan giving the startoff.}''

"Ready-and-set-and-go-now." ''{they start running, with Homestar counting}'' "One, two, three, four, five, six..." ''{Strong Bad takes tiny steps and is way behind}'' "Keep up the pace. Gotta break 4:40"

''{Turn the page to see silhouettes of everyone, and Homestar has reached the end.}''

"Ten!" "And the Duckie-man is the winner. Loser gets the egg."

''{Turn the page to see Homestar up front and Strong Bad in the distance with the egg.}''

"WHAAAAT??!!?&,:;%${}" "Hooray a-for me!!"

''{Turn the page to see Strong Mad holding the egg over his head while Strong Bad watches.}''

And so Strong Mad helped to break open the egg. ''{Strong Mad tosses the egg}''

''{Turn the page to see the egg broke and a bunch of fishsticks pour out.}''

And out poured a lifetime supply of fishsticks. And a The Cheat!!!!

''{The Cheat springs out of the egg, turn the page to give him his very own page. Turn the page again to see Strong Bad and The Cheat with the egg in the background.}''

"Awesome! My very own a The Cheat!"

''{Turn the page to see everyone hanging out by a boombox.}''

And so, The Cheat mashed play on an extremely expensive jambox with high-speed dubbing and everybody put their weight on it! ''{The Cheat plays a remix of the original intro music for H*R.com, and everyone dances.}''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad sitting at the stool, talking to Homestar, who's sitting on the ground listening to the tale.}''

So that's pretty much how it all went down, huh?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Oh, yes. Read me another one! Another one!

'''STRONG BAD''': Ohhhhh, very well. This one's called The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw ''{Strong Bad pulls out a children's book of the same name. Compy beeps and turns blue with the caption "Congratulations! You have answered 100 emails." and ASCII fireworks.}'' What the—whoah! Would ya look at that! 100 emails. I had no idea! I lost count around 51. Well, I suppose I should do something to celebrate...ooh! I'll say email 100 times!

''{He says email 100 times, [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

Oo. I'm pa—I'm parched. ''{wheezes}'' I need a glass of water. ''{A glass of water appears onscreen.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*When Strong Bad pulls out the book "The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw," you can click on it to get a closer look.

*After Strong Bad says "Email" 100 times, you can click on the words:
**"Congratulations!" for a message from [[Limozeen]].
::'''Transcript'''
::'''LIMOZEEN:''' Congratulations Strong Bad on your 100th email!
::''{slight pause}''
::'''LARRY:''' We're from the band Limozeen!
::'''PERRY:''' Uh, I think it says that at the top of the screen, Larry.
::'''LARRY:''' Well, I didn't know that!
::''{The band members strike various poses and the frame freezes, as the central riff from "Because It's Midnite" plays.}''
::* Direct link to Limozeen's greeting [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail100_zeen.swf here].

:*"you" to see Homestar deliver his message.
::'''Transcript'''
::''{Homestar is standing in the field, wearing the Duckie Shirt.}''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Happy hundredth birthday, Strong Bad!

:*"have" to see a funny message from Marzipan.
::'''Transcript'''
::''{Marzipan is standing in her house near her answering machine.}''
::'''MARZIPAN:''' Whoo-hoo, Strong Bad, whoo-hoo. I've almost caught up with you. I only have 90 more answering machines to go.

:*"answered" to see Senor Cardgage say some stuff.
::'''Transcript'''
::''{Senor Cardgage is standing in The Field near his bush.}''
::'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Many combolations, Elizagerth! ''{holds up a sign reading "combolations, elizagerth," and puts it back down, then produces a melty candybar from behind his back}'' I hope you get all my... particles.
::'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{off screen}'' Man, so cool!

:*"100" to see Sir Strong Bad making a telegram. His "doppelgänger" or "copy" is present-day Strong Bad.
::'''Transcript'''
::''{Sir Strong Bad is standing next to a telegraph machine. Half of his moustache has been ripped off, and he is holding a envelope that looks like it contains the missing half of the moustache.}''
::'''SIR STRONG BAD:''' ''{operating the telegraph}'' Well done, my doppelgänger! Stop! By the time you read this telegrammaparcel, I'll be long dead! Stop! Therefore, I've enclosed half of my moustache therein. Stop! I bid you good tidings, and may you continue to flummox those less fortunate than you!

*Also, clicking in the 2 areas where the fireworks go off will bring you to two other shorts.
**The firework on the left takes you to a TV ad for [[Discount Flashback Warehouse]].
::'''Transcript'''
::''{cut to Strong Bad's basement with the Television. Strong Bad's face appears on it}''
::'''STRONG BAD:''' Come on down to Discount Flashback Warehouse.
::''{Discout Flashback Warehouse text appears, then disappears. Camera pans back so we can see Strong Bad's body}''
::'''STRONG BAD:''' I've got this season. ''{He gestures to the left, where a screen from "different town" appears.}'' Last season. ''{He gestures to the right where a screen from "band names" appears.}'' Even stuff I've just made up! ''{The screenshots disappear and "just made up!!" appears as he says it.}''
::''{Cuts to just his head again, next to text reading "These prices: $9 $6.53."}''
::'''STRONG BAD:''' How can I make these prices any lower?
::''{Cut to Strong Bad standing beneath yellow text that reads "Discount Flashback Warehouse."}''
::'''STRONG BAD:''' Just ask for me, the guy that works here ''{very quietly, trailing off}'' at the flashback place.

:*The firework on the right shows you what became of the lifetime supply of fishsticks.
::'''Transcript'''
::''{Cut to the field back in the flashback. The Prince of Town is standing near the broken-open egg.}''
::'''THE PRINCE OF TOWN:''' Will no one claim this lifetime supply of fishsticks?
::''{Prince of Town does an over-the-top look left and right.}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*The DVD commentary for this episode reveals several interesting facts—originally, it would have been animated in the normal style, and would have told a different story, until the Brothers Chaps decided to re-write it halfway through. Originally, story elements included Strong Bad wearing a star shirt, and Marzipan attempting to do something about Homestar's awful fashion sense (his [[Ducks|duckie]] shirt, and also in this version, a pair of sandals). She gets him a star shirt, and Strong Bad rips his own shirt off in protest, which is why nowadays, Strong Bad never wears a shirt.
*The email was assigned the URL of "http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemailahundred.html," breaking the convention of the previous ninety-nine. This was done because of [[Not the 100th Email!!!]].
*Strong Bad ''actually'' says the word "E-mail" exactly 100 times.
**The Paper comes down during "e-mails" #28 through #30.
**For #49 he distinctly says "e-MAIL-a."
**For #67 he quickly says "e-mail-mail-nahduhluh."
**For #72 he says "e-meh-meh-meh-meh-mail."
**"E-mails" #91 and #92 blend together so much that it sounds like "email—mail," but if it was just one "e-mail" then there would only be 99, so it has been accepted to be 2 separate "e-mails."
*This is the first time a character has mentioned [[Free Country, USA]].
*This email has the most Easter eggs in any toon to date, with an amazing eight.
*1936 Strong Bad appearing with half a mustache was inspired by a waiter [[The Brothers Chaps]] once encountered who sported the same odd facial hair style.

===Remarks===
*It is debatable whether the story in the book really "happened", since Strong Bad could be making it up. Homestar verifies the tale, but this may just be typical, dense Homestar behavior.
*More proof that Strong Bad's boxing gloves are his hands; the small boxing gloves are referred to as his tiny hands.
*Strong Bad couldn't have lost count at email 51 because in email 91 the intro is "Coming in at number 91, it's, EMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIL." However it is possible that he could have said number 91 by coincidence.
**Also, he knew that it was the 100th email because he confronted users trying to find the email before it was finished in [[Not the 100th Email!!!]]
*During the ten-step footrace, Strong Bad made more than ten steps, although that wouldn't have affected the result of the race, for he would have lost/won the egg anyway.
*When The Cheat jumps out of the egg, Strong Bad says "Awesome! My very own-a The Cheat!" but the text says "My very own The Cheat!"
*When the Compy said Strong Bad had answered 100 e-mails, that's not entirely true. He answered two in [[50 emails]], two more in [[2 emails]], and you could say he answered more than one in [[huttah!]] (although he didn't answer any in [[anything]] or [[mile]]). Depending on your definition of "answering" an email, he read extras in [[spring cleaning]] (although they were promptly deleted). If you count by each toon being an e-mail, then he still answered in excess of 103 e-mails, since the three bonus e-mails on the DVD are presumably pre-100th. So really, at the time of the hundredth e-mail, Strong Bad actually has answered more than 100 e-mails.
**There is also the preview email in the [[Toons Menu]].
***Furthermore, there are also never-before-seen emails from [[personal favorites]].
****This means that the hundredth email was actually answered somewhere between Emails 83-94.
*Though the style of the artwork and the voice acting for most of the characters resembled closely that of the classic Homestar cartoons, Strong Bad, for some reason, sounds nothing like the real "old-school" Strong Bad in the flashback. Old Strong Bad's manner of speaking was very loud and dramatic (almost overacted), and he had a strong Mexican accent. "Old-school" Strong Bad in the flashback is just the opposite, speaking in a monotonal, mumbling fashion.
*Maybe the Compy gets confused with the "one" in "one-hundred" which caused it to go back to the first email.
*When he reads the Tandy e-mail, his accent is more like it is in the old cartoons (most notably, he pronounces "you" as "joo" a few times).

===Glitches===
*While the Limozeen video is up, the links beneath it are still clickable.
===Inside References===
*Present in the flashback are [[Mr. Bland]] and [[Señor]], who haven't been seen since [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]].
*Strong Bad first uses "grrl" (seen here as grrrl) in [[i she be]]. The word is also used in the [[Teen Girl Squad|Teen Girl Squad Mainpage]] and [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]].
*Old-style Marzipan, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad refer to the [[Museum Sketchbook|concept sketches]].
*Old-style Coach Z and Bubs refer to "[[Where My Hat is At?]]."
*The Cheat also mashed play on a [[Ghetto Blastro|jambox]] in "[[Everybody Knows It]]."
*When Strong Bad gasps at the end of the e-mail, it is the same sound effect of the Dry Meal in [[20X6 vs. 1936]].
*The TV from the Discount Flashback Warehouse egg is from an old H*R.com main menu.
*The two e-mails in the Discount Flashback Warehouse egg are [[different town]] and [[band names]].
*When Senor Cardgage/[[Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad]] says "Many [[Combolations|combolations]], Elizagerth," it's a reference to the credits in [[japanese cartoon]].
*Strong Bad is heard saying "Man, so cool" in the Senor Cardgage Easter egg. He said the same thing in the email "[[kind of cool]]."

=== Real-World References ===
*The widescreen is 750×400 pixels, a perfect 1.85:1 aspect ratio. Normal toons are 550×400, or 1.375:1.
*The guitar the guy is holding in the Limozeen egg is the same guitar that Homestar Runner steals in [[Puppet Time]], a Hamer "Bat" spin-off of the more popular Gibson Explorer shape. The bass the other guy is holding is a Fender Jazz-Bass.
**It may also be a Jackson KE3 Kelly model.
*The melty candy bar Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad/Senor Cardgage holds up near the end appears to be a Zagnut bar, which was also seen in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].

== DVD Version ==
*The Limozeen video is now in fullscreen and much higher quality.
**As well, you can use your DVD player's angle Button while watching the Limozeen clip to change the clip's background image. There are three separate backgrounds in all.
*Due to it being widescreen, the characters in this email look a little stretched out from top to bottom, unless you are watching it on a widescreen TV. Computer monitors seem to have this problem as well.
*The DVD version features hidden creator's commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

== See Also ==

* [[Original Book]]
* [[Main Page 20]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemailahundred.html|watch "flashback"]]
*[[HR:sbemailahundred.swf|view the Flash file for "flashback"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Bubs Filmography]] [[Category:Coach Z Filmography]] [[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]] [[Category:Limozeen Filmography]] [[Category:Marzipan Filmography]] [[Category:Pom Pom Filmography]] [[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]] [[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]] [[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:1936 Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Señor Filmography]]

Talk:mile

SBEmail22 — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:58:08 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Fourth Wall Break? */

== Millionaire? ==

I always thought they said, "The Cheat is the winner!", not "The Cheat is a millionaire!" It's pretty hard to tell, though. Any thoughts?
:It's 'millionaire', I'm sure of it. Too many syllables for it to be 'winner'. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== Headless homestar? ==

Why isn't there any mention of the headless homestar dancing at the very end of the flash file on this page? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:15, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

I guess no one noticed it before. Congraturation! --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]]

:Yeah, I just tried adding it, but I can't come up with a good wording for it. Go for it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:25, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

== glitches ==

Just so you know, those glitches were deliberate to make fun of poor flash animation, as does the whole cartoon

== "night-time" or "nice time" ==

Is Strong Bad's last phrase "See you later night-time" (as in the transcript) or "See you later nice time?" I hear the latter. Is it just me? --[[User:Jamby|Jamby]] 01:56, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:Nope, it's not just you - I hear "nice time" as well --[[User:Eric|Eric]] 02:29, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

== Fourth Wall Break? ==

Doesn't Strong Bad "break the fourth wall" by talking to the viewer? And even if not, isn't he breaking it by saying he's "not gonna do one this week"? I think it is most definitely a [[Fourth Wall Breaks|Fourth Wall Break]]. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 10:29, 14 Jun 2005 (EST)

:This one's a close call, but I think it's as valid as some of the other items on that page. Why don't you start a discussion on the [[Talk:Fourth Wall Breaks|talk page]] there, or if you truly believe it should go on the page, just be bold and add it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::The Fourth Wall Breaks page specifically says at the top that Strong Bad addressing the viewer is excluded from the page, because it happens so often and because the very fact that Strong Bad answers viewer emails indicates that he knows he has an audience. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::I think this one's a little more of a gray area because Strong Bad addresses us like he can see us. Then, when The Cheat makes his Flash toon, his parody extends all the way from "loading..." to the "preeow" of the printer. Meh, but I don't really feel strongly one way or the other. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:31, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::Okay, I can see that Strong Bad addressing the viewer would be excluded. But still, the fact that Strong Bad said that he wasn't going to do one makes me think of a fourth wall break. If there were something like the email "anything" in which Strong Bad wasn't available and Homestar (or another character) filled in for him and answered an email, I would be a bit more skeptical about it. But the fact that Strong Bad himself directly addresses that he refuses to answer a viewer's email has to be something. I also agree with what It's Dot Com said; if Strong Bad saying that he wasn't doing one isn't a fourth wall break, then the fact that The Cheat made a Strong Bad email complete with a loading screen and The Paper coming down could very well be a break as well. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:58, 14 Jun 2005 (EST)

Talk:mile

SBEmail22 — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:31:04 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Fourth Wall Break? */

Talk:mile

SBEmail22 — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:29:57 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Fourth Wall Break? */

Talk:mile

SBEmail22 — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:29:33 GMT

SBEmail22:

HRWiki:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:20:59 GMT

SBEmail22: /* The Water */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:40:42 GMT

SBEmail22: /* So holdable a gun */

__NOTOC__
<div id="shortcut" style="border: 1px dashed blue; margin: 0em 1em 0em 1em; text-align: center; padding:5px; float: right; clear: both;">
Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== STUFF'd items ==

===[[part-time job]]===
====The Answering Room====
Judging from what's in it, the room that Strong Bad was in was probably a kitchen.

*'''Decline''' Marzipan's kitchen to be exact. Which is stated I believe, in the transcript. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
*'''I couldn't be happier with my new invention! I'll call it... the Super Decline Machine!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:20, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Probably? PROBABLY? IT IS! --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Things which are in the transcript should not be STUFF'd.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt>
**I agree, this should've been deleted altogether. It's insulting to one's intelligence. It's like saying that the thing Strong Bad types on appears to be a computer keyboard, or that the the green stuff that The Stick is sticking out of appears to be grass. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:40, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline putting it on STUFF''' Oh, wait, you mean it's already here?! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:52, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[stunt double]]===
====So holdable a gun====
The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on [http://www.thoraxcorp.com/intern.html his] Thoraxcorp.com page.

*'''Neutral''' Not really sure I care. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
*'''Accept''' I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would. Its a true fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's worth noting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====The Water====
The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a [http://img300.echo.cx/img300/1626/floodedschoolintheexperimental.png similar image] can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.

*'''Decline''' I think its just a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
*Oh, well I'll just get out my ''thesaurus!'' --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[sisters]]===
====Love/Hate Relationship====
"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in [[gimmicks]].
*'''Accept''' This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Makes sense to me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
**'''Second.''' Aurora's comment rings true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''<s>Neutral.</s>''' Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)

===[[Homestar's Website]]===

====World Wide Wed...SB reference?====

Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".

*Uh, no. It may not. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS!''' CAUTION! I'M GOING ON 1 OF MY SOON-TO-BE-WORLD FAMOUS RAMPAGES! Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! Mike Chapman saying that his brother's name is Matt may refer to Matt Chapman saying that Mike Chapman WAS HIS FRIGGIN' BROTHER! STUFF MAY REFER TO SELECT THE USABLE FUN FACTS! ME GOING ON A RAMPAGE MAY REFER TO WHEN THE THERAPIST TOLD ME TO TAKE MY PILLS! SOMEONE STOP ME!{head hits keyboard}SDRLVNIBDVMOPFHUOPGNMIDLB! 18:31, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''This sort of thing is getting really old.''' I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[boring (really)]]===
====102 Exclamations====
There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).
*'''Weak Decline.''' Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept'''. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... {{User:phlip/sig}} 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Meh, why not? But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept.''' Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yeah. Its true. However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to. I dunno why anyone would, but... -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 1====
You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.
*'''Decline.''' Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''I'll upset ''your'' balance.''' (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=boring_%28really%29&diff=93605&oldid=93598 when I STUFF'd it], it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****'''No probalo!''' If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 2====
The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.
<div style="color:#555">''This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.''</div>
*'''Decline.''' It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)</s>
**Meh, '''Accept''' it. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:50, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 3====
If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Definitely not the hat, though====
One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:boring (really)]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====«Insert hilarious joke here»====
The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
*'''Second.''' It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)

====You said doyng again!====
Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
*'''Accept!''' Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'D''' Mmm-hmm. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''': It wasn't ''just'' a pause. He said, "What are you... '''um'''... doing..."
*** Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinating the Countryside.''' I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
**Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes ''close'', but does Strong Bad ''actually'' reference "car"? No, he does not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oops, I STUFF'd it!====
Homestar saying "Oops, I lost it." is probably a reference to him saying "Oops, you bwoke it." in a similar voice in the [[System Sounds|system sounds quote pack]].

*'''Decline.''' Homestar reuses words in the English language, as we all do. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[old comics]]===
====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:old comics]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[secret recipes]] ===

====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
====Angled?====
The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

*'''So I'm gonna hafta DECLI- Meh!''' Come on fun fact, get off the page. Fact, fact! Whoa, I caught a BIG fact!! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Today is all right for decline!''' I'm really reaching with these now, aren't I? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Diggity...diggity...DECLINE.''' There's no proof here. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 05:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondaded'''. What's the use anywho? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:17 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Decline.''' Just delete bad fun facts. There's no need to STUFF them. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* MY MOTHER SAYS IM SPECAIL!!!...I mean '''DECLINE'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Gosh, you mean they re-use different areas from Free Country USA?! '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline that crap.''' Flash cartoons don't have angles. They are two-dimensional. -- [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:34, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Error?====

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only is it speculation, but it's factually inaccurate - prepositions should NEVER be capitalized in titles and slogans unless they are the first word (I've heard that you're always supposed to capitalize final words too, but I can't think of a case where an article, preposition, or conjunction - the three types of words left non-capitalized - would ever come up there.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Once again pontless and useless. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheatday]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Senor Shrub====
The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Old Gron Sad voice?====
Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
*'''Decline.''' I didn't really hear a difference... or find it that interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Although I noticed this, it's not worth mentioning. In fact I've noticed that Strong Sad's voice has changed quite a bit lately. Probably because he's becoming less of a staticly depressed character and one with more personality. I'm rambling though so, um yeah, decline. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It still sounds like Strong Sad, both times. I hear a difference but it doesn't really translate to 'old' and 'new'. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 23:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ow! Somebody hit me on the DECLINE!''' No. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline''' I don't hear it, but maybe its just me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline,''' but I love you anyway. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' It reminds me more of Kerropi or whatever that frog thing from Hello Kitty is called... but that's also just speculation, so... yeah. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It reminds me of a fake frog costume. I dont think there are any references in it at all. --- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm the hoppity frog of declining!''' Nope. ---[[User:That crazy DumDe!|That crazy DumDe!]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' How could thatkidsam think Senor Cardgage was the lurker in garage sale anyway? I mean, Strong Sad wasn't buying anything, and Strong Bad even called him a lurker.
*** Hey, Anonny! Why not vote on a Fun Fact and not attribute it to yourself (that is, sign your votes.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**** Er, Ogog? It seems FireBird has deleted both your user name here and your lengthy comments in "Frolic or Bet?" below, I guess because you weren't logged in.
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It could be a reference, but just as easily it could be something that Strong Sad would say. —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** Guess again. There IS no such noun as "lurk." Verb, perhaps, but that's not how SS is using it. And SS isn't SB or SC (known for their malaprops.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Okay then, name one time before Garage Sale where TBC said lurk and not in reference to Strong Sad. And the above votes are right: Lurk as used in the egg doesn't make any sense. Just say the following sentance out loud: I'm going out for a lurk. Why use lurk when "walk" or "amble" or any similiar word would have worked? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Going against the flow here, but it seems to me that the title "lurker" as used in [[garage sale]] refers specifically to behavior in garage sales, and is not something that can be done alone at night. It's the same word, but not every repetition of a word is a reference. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't really see this as a reference, but sadly your arguements have convinced me. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That was in the context of a garage sale; I don't think the simple occurence of the same word indicates a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Segundo''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:37, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I'll say it again: Strong Sad is using the word improperly ("lurk" is a verb, not a noun), and Strong Sad isn't a character known for doing that. Why, then, was the word used if not referring to [[garage sale]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:44, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Frolic or Bet?====
When Senor Cardgage says "------ around the campfire, children", you can't tell if he's saying "gambol", which means frolicking or playing, or "gamble", which means betting (obviously). I'm leaning more toward "gambol", but please, tell me what you think. The transcript says "gamble", but I think "gambol" is more Senor Cardgage.

How bout phrasing this in a way so that deleting and accepting is possible? My suggestion:

"Senor Cardgage: Gambol around the campfire, children"

*'''Accept'''. I think gambol makes more cardgage sense, as he often uses antiquated words in weird context. Gamble is just random. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' {{User:phlip/sig}} 02:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, right. All of SC's malaprops are "antiquated" words that aren't just random. Like "left" ("left name"), "lawn" ("home lawn"), "cancel" (part of "free canceltation"), "denominator/wintergreen" (two options for what Cardgage can call himself in [[kind of cool]] - these are so random, I have no idea WHAT he's really trying to say!), and maybe some others I missed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Cardgage uses words that don't have specific meanings. So I don't think this should be an issue of definition, but rather enunciation. And it sounds to me like he is pronouncing it with an "ol". So '''accept''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** Editing previous vote due to misreading: There is ''no difference'' between the proper pronunciations of "gamble" and "gambol" and it doesn't sounds to me like Cardgage is messing with the pronunciation to encourage one word over the other. So pronunciation isn't the clue we need. Neither is really the obvious word ("gather") and both are verbs so meaning is out. Only difference between the two words left is spelling - and "gamble" is by far the more common word. So I vote '''Gamble.''' But as long as it doesn't keep getting shifted back and forth and back and forth, I won't care too much. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*To quote the KOC transcript: "I'd say some cool phrase that's almost one word and not quite another." To me, it sounds like he is pronouncing it like "gambowl". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Three things here:''' First, this isn't a fun fact; it doesn't belong on this page. This discussion should be moved to the relevant [[Talk:Senorial Day|talk page]]. Second, the whole phrase is ambiguous enough that, regardless of what we decide to put in the main text, a footnote with the other spelling should be put at the bottom of the transcript, [[Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon#Footnotes|like we did here]] in "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon". Third, I think it's "gamble". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Gamble.''' Yes, "gambol" makes sense. That's exactly the reason why I'm voting for "gamble". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*"Excardon me" is a mixture between "excuse me" and "pardon me" so maybe "gamble" is a mixture between "gather" and "assemble" --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Wow, good point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second NoSmorking''' Wow! I seriously never thought of that! You rock! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I am very impressed. That is probably it. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**C'mon. Y'all are tryin' *way* too hard to make sense out of the non-sensical! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is ridiculous.''' Everything is wild speculation! It doesn't matter anyway, it's nonsense! I'd say stick to the more common word ("gamble") and leave it at that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:25, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Just a '''second.''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*I vote '''gamble''' that sounds more Senor Cardgage [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINE''' It sounds absolutely NOTHING like the song or at least very little. The only reason they're similiar is becasue they're both rhythm guitar. Case closed.
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of songs it could be referencing. Unless the line or section of the toon in question is very obviously referring to something, it seems too conjectural to claim it as a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Anonymous, GET OVER YOURSELF please. '''Decline, belindas''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 13:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Can you say, "uh-DECLINE"?''' Who cares what song it sounds a little like? Resemblance doesn't equal reference. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM
*'''True dat. True that.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 01:14, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Life Saving Turtle====
The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].

*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak <strike>Neutral</strike> Accept.''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.
*'''Accept.''' Since when is "Everybody, everybody!" a common phrase? And nobody should say it's too obvious, because I hadn't seen the intro page in a year or so, and the reference really didn't sink in until the second (or so) time I watched it. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:48, 10 June 2005 (EST)

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

'''VERDICT:''' The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 22]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''CONTEST:''' I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective [[Talk:Main Page 22#Contest|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Second (the decline).''' If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline.''' This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Unexpected guests? ====

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Accept''' - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptyness''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:52, 9 Jun 2005
*'''Yay, yummy acceptness!''' Why should this be STUFF'd? [[User:68.161.140.124|68.161.140.124]] 01:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''"I Cut The Fact Off The STUFF Page in the Morning Light! DELETED!''' zno sir, I don't like it one bit. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* -compares- "You smell like pea soooooup!" "The Cheat is not deeeead!" There's a little bit of a similarity, but not much...'''Weak Accept.''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:56, 9 Jun 2005
*'''Weak Decline''' Yes, it's similar, but it's not the same... it's just coincidence, I think. You could just as well say that it's the same melody as the Lappy's startup noise... {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

'''VERDICT:''' After a month of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheat talk]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Allready voted, just a comment''' I think how it is put on [[Cell Phone]] is best.

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every
three seconds. This is one of them," is a parody of public service
announcements, which have similar lines (such as, "In the United States
alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email
every three seconds" is a reference to public service announcements
like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor
every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===

====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could it possibly be because Homestar has no nose? There is no instance of him ever smelling anything, and it's obviously not visible. However, it is particlularly clear that 1-up has a nose, especially from this cartoon. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is
programmed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

'''CLOSED.''' The consensus of this discussion has been used to revise the article. The discussion itself has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 6]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[best thing]]===

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.
''(rewrite)''

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted after being rewritten. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Redux====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' The second time around, this item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

'''CLOSED:''' This information is correct, but the consensus is to note it on [[Homestar's House]], which it already is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted and ''moved''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Runner]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===

====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' What does this have do with "privileges"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Trogga, dude, check privilages. It's one of the magazines Homestar's trying to sell to The Cheat. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:10, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===

====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deline''' Who knows, who cares? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How did the Compy know that Strong Bad asked for a glass of water? It's a cartoon, spammit, don't take it so literally! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:44, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline. Sorry.''' Ugh! These obnoxious losers and their overly agressive declines. I'm not like that. Sorry, but suspension of disbelief must be a factor in this. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 06:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

'''CLOSED.''' This item is now closed because it is obsolete. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept as rewritten.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Liekand's magic pockets====
Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.

*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page 22

SBEmail22 — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 01:11:37 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Contest */

I didn't want to make the page in fear of doing it differently than the template, but I saw that they had put up #22 on the site and thought I'd notify y'all about it. Crazy stuff, the whole thing's a flash file like the Virus email; a lot of extending past the boundaries of the screen.

[http://www.homestarrunner.com/main22.html Main Page 22]

--[[User:Body 1 Bite 1|Body 1 Bite 1]] 21:25, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)

Is the "Awright" voice from The house that gave sucky treats?--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 22:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
*It's from the [[Homestar Talker]]. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 23:58, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Virus blows my mind ==

Sometimes I think that the [[virus]] theme was designed by [[TBC]] to watch us Wiki people scramble. "Oh yeah," says Matt "Catalogue this, chumps!" [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 11:36, 6 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Fun Fact Discussion ==

*You can't get to this mainpage from anywhere

We should add a Fun Fact when a cartoon's back button leads to a mainpage, but there's no need to comment on a lack thereof. Such is to be expected, anyway, as [[Main Page 22]] isn't even a day old... If you agree/disagree, share your reasoning. -- [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 15:58, 6 Dec 2004 (EST)

*"Drop a train on 'em!" is what Strong Bad said when he ran Edgarware in virus.

Is this a reference or a fun fact...Or is it neither? Could we STUFF this one? Maybe it's just me that thinks this one is too obvious. Someone else's opinion, please? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 21:11, 6 Dec 2004 (MST)

: Um, I don't mean to sound dumb, but I didn't remember that little fact. I say '''Keep.''' --[[User:Bellatrix|Bellatrix]] 09:54, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)

''*Unlike the previous main pages, you cannot access this main page from another one, because there is no button for it. You must type the address into the address bar to see it.''

:this is false. The other main pages have a 22 button with an Edgar icon. -[[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 20:21, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Any significance? ==

Does the order in which the computers appear while moving over Characters have any significance at all? --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 00:20, 7 Dec 2004 (EST)

==What is this one all about?==

If you look very closely, the store button has a little tiny bubble which is near invisible. 

I zoomed in and I don't see it. Can anyone fill me in on just what this guy was talking about? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:14, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Coach Z?==

Is it just me, or does Coach Z say something when the sandwich appears? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:08, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)
:You're on to something there - I hear a voice reminiscent of Coach Z, too, but it is likely just the same 'diner speak' sound you hear on [http://www.homestarrunner.com/main5.html Main Page #5] when you mouse over the 'email' button and the exact same sandwich tray appears then, too. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:49, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Aah, you're right about that. It sounds rather like Coach Z, nevertheless. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:05, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Biscuit Dough Hands Man ==

How do we know that it's the [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] saying '[[fhqwhgads]]'? It's probably just the [[Visor Robot]] saying it, as [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]]'s mouth doesn't move. -[[User:69.229.230.43]]

== Quote of the Week ==

I clicked on quote of the week, and immideatley clicked and held the minimize button so that I could see the Homestar quote. It said "Oh Haldo! This is my funniest word style ever times that I've ever said! Hope is all on to it lately! And I wish the chicken and msg place was open on somedays."
But the wiki page said something else. Can someone check? Mabye it's just my computer.
-Alice

:You're right. I've got a screenshot of it now, and it says, "Oh Haldo! This is my funniest word style ever times that I've said! Hope all is on to it even more lately! And I wish the chicken & msg place was open on Somedays." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:43, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

::I opened qod.swf in the flash decompiler, and it most certainly says "Oh Hello! This is my funniest word style ever that I said! Hope you're into it!" --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 22:18, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Well, I took a screenshot of the moment when the QOD box appears on Main Page 22 (before the current quote appears), and I got the above quote. I don't have access to it right now, but I can post it up later. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

::::OK, you're right, I saw it with the hold-minimise-button trick too, and got a screenshot. Weird, I can't find that text ''anywhere'' in the .swf's... Incidentally, if you open the swfs for one of the other main pages and look outside the wall it says the same thing. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 22:32, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

:::::Aha! I redownloaded the latest qod.swf and looked at that, it says the same as the screenshot. I was looking at an old version, about 3 weeks old, when I downloaded the whole site to take home when I went on vacation. So the message has changed in the last 3 weeks. Is this too trivial even for Trivia? I know we catalogue other changes... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 22:35, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

::::::I was wondering if that might be the case, because there's a screenshot of the old message too. Maybe the Chaps are just trying to mess with us... :) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:36, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

:::::::The HTTP headers for qod.swf say "Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:09:24 GMT" - that's probably when it was changed - the date seems to fit in with what we know. Gee this has become indented entirely too far... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 23:59, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

::::::::Except for the times when they say the 18th instead... And the Last-Modified header says the 15th... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 04:05, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::Well though the Date header says the 18th or the 21st, the Last-Modified header always seems to say the 15th, so I'll put that in the article and be done with it. Hopefully my last horribly indented message, [[User:phlip|phlip]] 04:40, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::Look, I'm technologically challenged. Alls I know is, that's what came up on my computer when I used the minimize trick. I don't even know what an swf is!-Alice

:I have a picture - [http://spongebob.gamerzworld.org/secretmsg.png Have a Look!] {{User:Rainer/sig}} 12:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

==Closed STUFF==

===ALL WRONG....... (DECLINED)===
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''AN ACTUAL ACCEPT.''' I checked, and it's definitely the one from the H*T, not "the show." And the "TBC reuse stuff all the time" argument doesn't work here because it's virus stuff, and one of the main things with the virus stuff is that they use a lot of old stuff. Should we get rid of the "With Marzipan's radish we're gonna win the competition" quote from the [[virus]] e-mail? [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 22:31, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Contest====
*'''Accept.''' I contest the above. First of all, did anybody besides Tom H. and tomstiff do a side-by-side comparison? Without a doubt, the sound clip is from the Homestar Talker, not from The Show. Two-thirds of the inside references listed in the article identify sound clips. How, then, is this fact not appropriate? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:42, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Tentative <strike>Decline</strike> Accept''' But not because of the Decline votes above. It's more because I think everything pulled from the Homestar Talker was from some other older 'toon - so it didn't originate with the Homestar Talker. Maybe. Might take a while to track it down... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:58, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**But listen first to the menu and then the talker. You have to admit they're identical. If you find something that predates the talker, so much the better, but shouldn't it be a "tentative accept" until you do? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right - mainly because I searched all the older 'toons I could think of and haven't yet found the origin (maybe I was wrong about the Talker borrowing from other 'toons? I found "All right"s in A Jumping Jack Contest and Yellow Dello but they didn't match.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:15, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** Taking another look at the Talker, I'm starting to wonder why I thought that in the first place - probably because of SB's "Competition" (strongly reminding me of A Jumping Jack Contest). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:18, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Accept.''' Not sure if I'm supposed to be voting again here, but I will. --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)</strike>
**Meh, I'd envisioned the votes from above carrying over. Just as long as nobody's confused. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***That makes sense. Striking duplicate vote. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' 'Nuff said. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:11, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 01:05:21 GMT

SBEmail22: /* 102 Exclamations */

__NOTOC__
<div id="shortcut" style="border: 1px dashed blue; margin: 0em 1em 0em 1em; text-align: center; padding:5px; float: right; clear: both;">
Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[sisters]]===
====Love/Hate Relationship====
"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in [[gimmicks]].
*'''Accept''' This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Makes sense to me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)

===[[Homestar's Website]]===

====World Wide Wed...SB reference?====

Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".

*Uh, no. It may not. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS!''' CAUTION! I'M GOING ON 1 OF MY SOON-TO-BE-WORLD FAMOUS RAMPAGES! Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! Mike Chapman saying that his brother's name is Matt may refer to Matt Chapman saying that Mike Chapman WAS HIS FRIGGIN' BROTHER! STUFF MAY REFER TO SELECT THE USABLE FUN FACTS! ME GOING ON A RAMPAGE MAY REFER TO WHEN THE THERAPIST TOLD ME TO TAKE MY PILLS! SOMEONE STOP ME!{head hits keyboard}SDRLVNIBDVMOPFHUOPGNMIDLB! 18:31, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''This sort of thing is getting really old.''' I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[boring (really)]]===
====102 Exclamations====
There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).
*Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept'''. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... {{User:phlip/sig}} 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Meh, why not? But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept.''' Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 1====
You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.
*'''Decline.''' Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''I'll upset ''your'' balance.''' (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=boring_%28really%29&diff=93605&oldid=93598 when I STUFF'd it], it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****'''No probalo!''' If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 2====
The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.
<div style="color:#555">''This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.''</div>
*'''Decline.''' It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)</s>
**Meh, '''Accept''' it. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:50, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 3====
If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Definitely not the hat, though====
One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:boring (really)]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====«Insert hilarious joke here»====
The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
*'''Second.''' It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)

====You said doyng again!====
Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
*'''Accept!''' Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'D''' Mmm-hmm. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''': It wasn't ''just'' a pause. He said, "What are you... '''um'''... doing..."
*** Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinating the Countryside.''' I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
**Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes ''close'', but does Strong Bad ''actually'' reference "car"? No, he does not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[old comics]]===
====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:old comics]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[secret recipes]] ===

====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
====Angled?====
The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

*'''So I'm gonna hafta DECLI- Meh!''' Come on fun fact, get off the page. Fact, fact! Whoa, I caught a BIG fact!! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Today is all right for decline!''' I'm really reaching with these now, aren't I? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Diggity...diggity...DECLINE.''' There's no proof here. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 05:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondaded'''. What's the use anywho? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:17 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Decline.''' Just delete bad fun facts. There's no need to STUFF them. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* MY MOTHER SAYS IM SPECAIL!!!...I mean '''DECLINE'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Gosh, you mean they re-use different areas from Free Country USA?! '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline that crap.''' Flash cartoons don't have angles. They are two-dimensional. -- [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:34, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Error?====

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only is it speculation, but it's factually inaccurate - prepositions should NEVER be capitalized in titles and slogans unless they are the first word (I've heard that you're always supposed to capitalize final words too, but I can't think of a case where an article, preposition, or conjunction - the three types of words left non-capitalized - would ever come up there.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Once again pontless and useless. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheatday]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Senor Shrub====
The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Old Gron Sad voice?====
Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
*'''Decline.''' I didn't really hear a difference... or find it that interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Although I noticed this, it's not worth mentioning. In fact I've noticed that Strong Sad's voice has changed quite a bit lately. Probably because he's becoming less of a staticly depressed character and one with more personality. I'm rambling though so, um yeah, decline. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It still sounds like Strong Sad, both times. I hear a difference but it doesn't really translate to 'old' and 'new'. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 23:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ow! Somebody hit me on the DECLINE!''' No. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline''' I don't hear it, but maybe its just me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline,''' but I love you anyway. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' It reminds me more of Kerropi or whatever that frog thing from Hello Kitty is called... but that's also just speculation, so... yeah. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It reminds me of a fake frog costume. I dont think there are any references in it at all. --- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm the hoppity frog of declining!''' Nope. ---[[User:That crazy DumDe!|That crazy DumDe!]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' How could thatkidsam think Senor Cardgage was the lurker in garage sale anyway? I mean, Strong Sad wasn't buying anything, and Strong Bad even called him a lurker.
*** Hey, Anonny! Why not vote on a Fun Fact and not attribute it to yourself (that is, sign your votes.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**** Er, Ogog? It seems FireBird has deleted both your user name here and your lengthy comments in "Frolic or Bet?" below, I guess because you weren't logged in.
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It could be a reference, but just as easily it could be something that Strong Sad would say. —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** Guess again. There IS no such noun as "lurk." Verb, perhaps, but that's not how SS is using it. And SS isn't SB or SC (known for their malaprops.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Okay then, name one time before Garage Sale where TBC said lurk and not in reference to Strong Sad. And the above votes are right: Lurk as used in the egg doesn't make any sense. Just say the following sentance out loud: I'm going out for a lurk. Why use lurk when "walk" or "amble" or any similiar word would have worked? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Going against the flow here, but it seems to me that the title "lurker" as used in [[garage sale]] refers specifically to behavior in garage sales, and is not something that can be done alone at night. It's the same word, but not every repetition of a word is a reference. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't really see this as a reference, but sadly your arguements have convinced me. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That was in the context of a garage sale; I don't think the simple occurence of the same word indicates a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Segundo''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:37, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I'll say it again: Strong Sad is using the word improperly ("lurk" is a verb, not a noun), and Strong Sad isn't a character known for doing that. Why, then, was the word used if not referring to [[garage sale]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:44, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Frolic or Bet?====
When Senor Cardgage says "------ around the campfire, children", you can't tell if he's saying "gambol", which means frolicking or playing, or "gamble", which means betting (obviously). I'm leaning more toward "gambol", but please, tell me what you think. The transcript says "gamble", but I think "gambol" is more Senor Cardgage.

How bout phrasing this in a way so that deleting and accepting is possible? My suggestion:

"Senor Cardgage: Gambol around the campfire, children"

*'''Accept'''. I think gambol makes more cardgage sense, as he often uses antiquated words in weird context. Gamble is just random. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' {{User:phlip/sig}} 02:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, right. All of SC's malaprops are "antiquated" words that aren't just random. Like "left" ("left name"), "lawn" ("home lawn"), "cancel" (part of "free canceltation"), "denominator/wintergreen" (two options for what Cardgage can call himself in [[kind of cool]] - these are so random, I have no idea WHAT he's really trying to say!), and maybe some others I missed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Cardgage uses words that don't have specific meanings. So I don't think this should be an issue of definition, but rather enunciation. And it sounds to me like he is pronouncing it with an "ol". So '''accept''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** Editing previous vote due to misreading: There is ''no difference'' between the proper pronunciations of "gamble" and "gambol" and it doesn't sounds to me like Cardgage is messing with the pronunciation to encourage one word over the other. So pronunciation isn't the clue we need. Neither is really the obvious word ("gather") and both are verbs so meaning is out. Only difference between the two words left is spelling - and "gamble" is by far the more common word. So I vote '''Gamble.''' But as long as it doesn't keep getting shifted back and forth and back and forth, I won't care too much. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*To quote the KOC transcript: "I'd say some cool phrase that's almost one word and not quite another." To me, it sounds like he is pronouncing it like "gambowl". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Three things here:''' First, this isn't a fun fact; it doesn't belong on this page. This discussion should be moved to the relevant [[Talk:Senorial Day|talk page]]. Second, the whole phrase is ambiguous enough that, regardless of what we decide to put in the main text, a footnote with the other spelling should be put at the bottom of the transcript, [[Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon#Footnotes|like we did here]] in "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon". Third, I think it's "gamble". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Gamble.''' Yes, "gambol" makes sense. That's exactly the reason why I'm voting for "gamble". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*"Excardon me" is a mixture between "excuse me" and "pardon me" so maybe "gamble" is a mixture between "gather" and "assemble" --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Wow, good point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second NoSmorking''' Wow! I seriously never thought of that! You rock! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I am very impressed. That is probably it. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**C'mon. Y'all are tryin' *way* too hard to make sense out of the non-sensical! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is ridiculous.''' Everything is wild speculation! It doesn't matter anyway, it's nonsense! I'd say stick to the more common word ("gamble") and leave it at that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:25, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Just a '''second.''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*I vote '''gamble''' that sounds more Senor Cardgage [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINE''' It sounds absolutely NOTHING like the song or at least very little. The only reason they're similiar is becasue they're both rhythm guitar. Case closed.
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of songs it could be referencing. Unless the line or section of the toon in question is very obviously referring to something, it seems too conjectural to claim it as a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Anonymous, GET OVER YOURSELF please. '''Decline, belindas''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 13:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Can you say, "uh-DECLINE"?''' Who cares what song it sounds a little like? Resemblance doesn't equal reference. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Life Saving Turtle====
The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].

*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak <strike>Neutral</strike> Accept.''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.
*'''Accept.''' Since when is "Everybody, everybody!" a common phrase? And nobody should say it's too obvious, because I hadn't seen the intro page in a year or so, and the reference really didn't sink in until the second (or so) time I watched it. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:48, 10 June 2005 (EST)

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

'''VERDICT:''' The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 22]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''CONTEST:''' I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective [[Talk:Main Page 22#Contest|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Second (the decline).''' If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline.''' This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Unexpected guests? ====

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Accept''' - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptyness''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:52, 9 Jun 2005
*'''Yay, yummy acceptness!''' Why should this be STUFF'd? [[User:68.161.140.124|68.161.140.124]] 01:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''"I Cut The Fact Off The STUFF Page in the Morning Light! DELETED!''' zno sir, I don't like it one bit. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* -compares- "You smell like pea soooooup!" "The Cheat is not deeeead!" There's a little bit of a similarity, but not much...'''Weak Accept.''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:56, 9 Jun 2005
*'''Weak Decline''' Yes, it's similar, but it's not the same... it's just coincidence, I think. You could just as well say that it's the same melody as the Lappy's startup noise... {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Allready voted, just a comment''' I think how it is put on [[Cell Phone]] is best.

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every
three seconds. This is one of them," is a parody of public service
announcements, which have similar lines (such as, "In the United States
alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email
every three seconds" is a reference to public service announcements
like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor
every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===

====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could it possibly be because Homestar has no nose? There is no instance of him ever smelling anything, and it's obviously not visible. However, it is particlularly clear that 1-up has a nose, especially from this cartoon. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is
programmed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[best thing]]===

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Redux====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This sounds like exactly the sort of thing TGS would reference. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:03, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Accept?''' Was he ever called "Mr. Drummond"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh yes. Mr. Drummond didn't officially adopt the boys until mid-second season, at which point they started calling him Dad. Until then, they called him Mr. Drummond or "Mr. D". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just when i sorta regained confidence in non-speculating Fun Facts. There is no notable similarity in this. Its a comic gag, not a reference. Even if it might be reference, we do not have enough proof to validate it as a "fact". In response to Jay, I don't think this will be another Change of Pace, if only because this cartoon did not come out one day after Waterboy. If that had happened it might be impossible to deflect this "fun" "reference." -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''ACCEPT''' I cried,I cried like a ten year old girl..i mean[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 19:57, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Orffsetting the accept above -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I like the part about only female anglerfish having the lights and lures. It's actually interesting. But the fact's kind of bloated right now. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. Its true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[privileges]]===

====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' What does this have do with "privileges"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===

====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deline''' Who knows, who cares? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Liekand's magic pockets====
Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.

*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== General ==

===="Crapfully yours" a running gag?====
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't even need to see the article in question to know what a load of crap it is. Its already noted in the 3 Wishes facts that Strong Bad doesn't like the "crap" signitures. A whole article is overkill. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Yes, it's a running gag, but I don't think there needs to be a whole article about it. Maybe just list it in the running gags section or something. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It is a running gag and deserves its own page, though i agree the one that Jay deleted was poorly done. If 11.01 deserves its own page, <s>crafully yours</s> crap in all of its forms does as well --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DELORTED!''' Crapfully yours, no. Crap, maybe. Ya, crap is a running gag. Crapfully yours isn't. That's like saying ''Dear Strong Bad'' is a running gag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 01:04:36 GMT

SBEmail22: /* 102 Exclamations */

__NOTOC__
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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[sisters]]===
====Love/Hate Relationship====
"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in [[gimmicks]].
*'''Accept''' This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Makes sense to me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)

===[[Homestar's Website]]===

====World Wide Wed...SB reference?====

Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".

*Uh, no. It may not. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS!''' CAUTION! I'M GOING ON 1 OF MY SOON-TO-BE-WORLD FAMOUS RAMPAGES! Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! Mike Chapman saying that his brother's name is Matt may refer to Matt Chapman saying that Mike Chapman WAS HIS FRIGGIN' BROTHER! STUFF MAY REFER TO SELECT THE USABLE FUN FACTS! ME GOING ON A RAMPAGE MAY REFER TO WHEN THE THERAPIST TOLD ME TO TAKE MY PILLS! SOMEONE STOP ME!{head hits keyboard}SDRLVNIBDVMOPFHUOPGNMIDLB! 18:31, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''This sort of thing is getting really old.''' I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[boring (really)]]===
====102 Exclamations====
There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).
*Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept'''. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... {{User:phlip/sig}} 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Meh, why not? But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --[[User:SBEMail22|SBEmail22]] 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept.''' Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 1====
You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.
*'''Decline.''' Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''I'll upset ''your'' balance.''' (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=boring_%28really%29&diff=93605&oldid=93598 when I STUFF'd it], it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****'''No probalo!''' If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 2====
The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.
<div style="color:#555">''This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.''</div>
*'''Decline.''' It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)</s>
**Meh, '''Accept''' it. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:50, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 3====
If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Definitely not the hat, though====
One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:boring (really)]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====«Insert hilarious joke here»====
The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
*'''Second.''' It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)

====You said doyng again!====
Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
*'''Accept!''' Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'D''' Mmm-hmm. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''': It wasn't ''just'' a pause. He said, "What are you... '''um'''... doing..."
*** Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinating the Countryside.''' I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
**Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes ''close'', but does Strong Bad ''actually'' reference "car"? No, he does not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[old comics]]===
====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:old comics]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[secret recipes]] ===

====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
====Angled?====
The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

*'''So I'm gonna hafta DECLI- Meh!''' Come on fun fact, get off the page. Fact, fact! Whoa, I caught a BIG fact!! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Today is all right for decline!''' I'm really reaching with these now, aren't I? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Diggity...diggity...DECLINE.''' There's no proof here. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 05:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondaded'''. What's the use anywho? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:17 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Decline.''' Just delete bad fun facts. There's no need to STUFF them. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* MY MOTHER SAYS IM SPECAIL!!!...I mean '''DECLINE'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Gosh, you mean they re-use different areas from Free Country USA?! '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline that crap.''' Flash cartoons don't have angles. They are two-dimensional. -- [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:34, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Error?====

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only is it speculation, but it's factually inaccurate - prepositions should NEVER be capitalized in titles and slogans unless they are the first word (I've heard that you're always supposed to capitalize final words too, but I can't think of a case where an article, preposition, or conjunction - the three types of words left non-capitalized - would ever come up there.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Once again pontless and useless. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheatday]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Senor Shrub====
The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Old Gron Sad voice?====
Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
*'''Decline.''' I didn't really hear a difference... or find it that interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Although I noticed this, it's not worth mentioning. In fact I've noticed that Strong Sad's voice has changed quite a bit lately. Probably because he's becoming less of a staticly depressed character and one with more personality. I'm rambling though so, um yeah, decline. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It still sounds like Strong Sad, both times. I hear a difference but it doesn't really translate to 'old' and 'new'. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 23:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ow! Somebody hit me on the DECLINE!''' No. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline''' I don't hear it, but maybe its just me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline,''' but I love you anyway. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' It reminds me more of Kerropi or whatever that frog thing from Hello Kitty is called... but that's also just speculation, so... yeah. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It reminds me of a fake frog costume. I dont think there are any references in it at all. --- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm the hoppity frog of declining!''' Nope. ---[[User:That crazy DumDe!|That crazy DumDe!]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' How could thatkidsam think Senor Cardgage was the lurker in garage sale anyway? I mean, Strong Sad wasn't buying anything, and Strong Bad even called him a lurker.
*** Hey, Anonny! Why not vote on a Fun Fact and not attribute it to yourself (that is, sign your votes.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**** Er, Ogog? It seems FireBird has deleted both your user name here and your lengthy comments in "Frolic or Bet?" below, I guess because you weren't logged in.
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It could be a reference, but just as easily it could be something that Strong Sad would say. —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** Guess again. There IS no such noun as "lurk." Verb, perhaps, but that's not how SS is using it. And SS isn't SB or SC (known for their malaprops.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Okay then, name one time before Garage Sale where TBC said lurk and not in reference to Strong Sad. And the above votes are right: Lurk as used in the egg doesn't make any sense. Just say the following sentance out loud: I'm going out for a lurk. Why use lurk when "walk" or "amble" or any similiar word would have worked? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Going against the flow here, but it seems to me that the title "lurker" as used in [[garage sale]] refers specifically to behavior in garage sales, and is not something that can be done alone at night. It's the same word, but not every repetition of a word is a reference. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't really see this as a reference, but sadly your arguements have convinced me. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That was in the context of a garage sale; I don't think the simple occurence of the same word indicates a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Segundo''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:37, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I'll say it again: Strong Sad is using the word improperly ("lurk" is a verb, not a noun), and Strong Sad isn't a character known for doing that. Why, then, was the word used if not referring to [[garage sale]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:44, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Frolic or Bet?====
When Senor Cardgage says "------ around the campfire, children", you can't tell if he's saying "gambol", which means frolicking or playing, or "gamble", which means betting (obviously). I'm leaning more toward "gambol", but please, tell me what you think. The transcript says "gamble", but I think "gambol" is more Senor Cardgage.

How bout phrasing this in a way so that deleting and accepting is possible? My suggestion:

"Senor Cardgage: Gambol around the campfire, children"

*'''Accept'''. I think gambol makes more cardgage sense, as he often uses antiquated words in weird context. Gamble is just random. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' {{User:phlip/sig}} 02:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, right. All of SC's malaprops are "antiquated" words that aren't just random. Like "left" ("left name"), "lawn" ("home lawn"), "cancel" (part of "free canceltation"), "denominator/wintergreen" (two options for what Cardgage can call himself in [[kind of cool]] - these are so random, I have no idea WHAT he's really trying to say!), and maybe some others I missed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Cardgage uses words that don't have specific meanings. So I don't think this should be an issue of definition, but rather enunciation. And it sounds to me like he is pronouncing it with an "ol". So '''accept''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** Editing previous vote due to misreading: There is ''no difference'' between the proper pronunciations of "gamble" and "gambol" and it doesn't sounds to me like Cardgage is messing with the pronunciation to encourage one word over the other. So pronunciation isn't the clue we need. Neither is really the obvious word ("gather") and both are verbs so meaning is out. Only difference between the two words left is spelling - and "gamble" is by far the more common word. So I vote '''Gamble.''' But as long as it doesn't keep getting shifted back and forth and back and forth, I won't care too much. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*To quote the KOC transcript: "I'd say some cool phrase that's almost one word and not quite another." To me, it sounds like he is pronouncing it like "gambowl". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Three things here:''' First, this isn't a fun fact; it doesn't belong on this page. This discussion should be moved to the relevant [[Talk:Senorial Day|talk page]]. Second, the whole phrase is ambiguous enough that, regardless of what we decide to put in the main text, a footnote with the other spelling should be put at the bottom of the transcript, [[Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon#Footnotes|like we did here]] in "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon". Third, I think it's "gamble". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Gamble.''' Yes, "gambol" makes sense. That's exactly the reason why I'm voting for "gamble". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*"Excardon me" is a mixture between "excuse me" and "pardon me" so maybe "gamble" is a mixture between "gather" and "assemble" --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Wow, good point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second NoSmorking''' Wow! I seriously never thought of that! You rock! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I am very impressed. That is probably it. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**C'mon. Y'all are tryin' *way* too hard to make sense out of the non-sensical! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is ridiculous.''' Everything is wild speculation! It doesn't matter anyway, it's nonsense! I'd say stick to the more common word ("gamble") and leave it at that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:25, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Just a '''second.''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*I vote '''gamble''' that sounds more Senor Cardgage [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINE''' It sounds absolutely NOTHING like the song or at least very little. The only reason they're similiar is becasue they're both rhythm guitar. Case closed.
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of songs it could be referencing. Unless the line or section of the toon in question is very obviously referring to something, it seems too conjectural to claim it as a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Anonymous, GET OVER YOURSELF please. '''Decline, belindas''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 13:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Can you say, "uh-DECLINE"?''' Who cares what song it sounds a little like? Resemblance doesn't equal reference. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Life Saving Turtle====
The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].

*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak <strike>Neutral</strike> Accept.''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.
*'''Accept.''' Since when is "Everybody, everybody!" a common phrase? And nobody should say it's too obvious, because I hadn't seen the intro page in a year or so, and the reference really didn't sink in until the second (or so) time I watched it. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:48, 10 June 2005 (EST)

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

'''VERDICT:''' The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 22]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''CONTEST:''' I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective [[Talk:Main Page 22#Contest|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Second (the decline).''' If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline.''' This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Unexpected guests? ====

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Accept''' - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptyness''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:52, 9 Jun 2005
*'''Yay, yummy acceptness!''' Why should this be STUFF'd? [[User:68.161.140.124|68.161.140.124]] 01:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''"I Cut The Fact Off The STUFF Page in the Morning Light! DELETED!''' zno sir, I don't like it one bit. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* -compares- "You smell like pea soooooup!" "The Cheat is not deeeead!" There's a little bit of a similarity, but not much...'''Weak Accept.''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:56, 9 Jun 2005
*'''Weak Decline''' Yes, it's similar, but it's not the same... it's just coincidence, I think. You could just as well say that it's the same melody as the Lappy's startup noise... {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Allready voted, just a comment''' I think how it is put on [[Cell Phone]] is best.

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every
three seconds. This is one of them," is a parody of public service
announcements, which have similar lines (such as, "In the United States
alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email
every three seconds" is a reference to public service announcements
like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor
every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===

====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could it possibly be because Homestar has no nose? There is no instance of him ever smelling anything, and it's obviously not visible. However, it is particlularly clear that 1-up has a nose, especially from this cartoon. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is
programmed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[best thing]]===

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Redux====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This sounds like exactly the sort of thing TGS would reference. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:03, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Accept?''' Was he ever called "Mr. Drummond"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh yes. Mr. Drummond didn't officially adopt the boys until mid-second season, at which point they started calling him Dad. Until then, they called him Mr. Drummond or "Mr. D". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just when i sorta regained confidence in non-speculating Fun Facts. There is no notable similarity in this. Its a comic gag, not a reference. Even if it might be reference, we do not have enough proof to validate it as a "fact". In response to Jay, I don't think this will be another Change of Pace, if only because this cartoon did not come out one day after Waterboy. If that had happened it might be impossible to deflect this "fun" "reference." -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''ACCEPT''' I cried,I cried like a ten year old girl..i mean[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 19:57, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Orffsetting the accept above -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I like the part about only female anglerfish having the lights and lures. It's actually interesting. But the fact's kind of bloated right now. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. Its true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[privileges]]===

====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' What does this have do with "privileges"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===

====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deline''' Who knows, who cares? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Liekand's magic pockets====
Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.

*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== General ==

===="Crapfully yours" a running gag?====
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't even need to see the article in question to know what a load of crap it is. Its already noted in the 3 Wishes facts that Strong Bad doesn't like the "crap" signitures. A whole article is overkill. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Yes, it's a running gag, but I don't think there needs to be a whole article about it. Maybe just list it in the running gags section or something. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It is a running gag and deserves its own page, though i agree the one that Jay deleted was poorly done. If 11.01 deserves its own page, <s>crafully yours</s> crap in all of its forms does as well --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DELORTED!''' Crapfully yours, no. Crap, maybe. Ya, crap is a running gag. Crapfully yours isn't. That's like saying ''Dear Strong Bad'' is a running gag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 01:00:23 GMT

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[sisters]]===
====Love/Hate Relationship====
"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in [[gimmicks]].
*'''Accept''' This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Makes sense to me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)

===[[Homestar's Website]]===

====World Wide Wed...SB reference?====

Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".

*Uh, no. It may not. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS!''' CAUTION! I'M GOING ON 1 OF MY SOON-TO-BE-WORLD FAMOUS RAMPAGES! Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! Mike Chapman saying that his brother's name is Matt may refer to Matt Chapman saying that Mike Chapman WAS HIS FRIGGIN' BROTHER! STUFF MAY REFER TO SELECT THE USABLE FUN FACTS! ME GOING ON A RAMPAGE MAY REFER TO WHEN THE THERAPIST TOLD ME TO TAKE MY PILLS! SOMEONE STOP ME!{head hits keyboard}SDRLVNIBDVMOPFHUOPGNMIDLB! 18:31, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''This sort of thing is getting really old.''' I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[boring (really)]]===
====102 Exclamations====
There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).
*Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept'''. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... {{User:phlip/sig}} 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Meh, why not? But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 1====
You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.
*'''Decline.''' Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''I'll upset ''your'' balance.''' (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=boring_%28really%29&diff=93605&oldid=93598 when I STUFF'd it], it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****'''No probalo!''' If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 2====
The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.
<div style="color:#555">''This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.''</div>
*'''Decline.''' It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)</s>
**Meh, '''Accept''' it. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:50, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 3====
If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Definitely not the hat, though====
One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:boring (really)]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====«Insert hilarious joke here»====
The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
*'''Second.''' It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)

====You said doyng again!====
Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
*'''Accept!''' Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'D''' Mmm-hmm. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''': It wasn't ''just'' a pause. He said, "What are you... '''um'''... doing..."
*** Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinating the Countryside.''' I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
**Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes ''close'', but does Strong Bad ''actually'' reference "car"? No, he does not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[old comics]]===
====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:old comics]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[secret recipes]] ===

====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
====Angled?====
The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

*'''So I'm gonna hafta DECLI- Meh!''' Come on fun fact, get off the page. Fact, fact! Whoa, I caught a BIG fact!! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Today is all right for decline!''' I'm really reaching with these now, aren't I? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Diggity...diggity...DECLINE.''' There's no proof here. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 05:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondaded'''. What's the use anywho? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:17 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Decline.''' Just delete bad fun facts. There's no need to STUFF them. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* MY MOTHER SAYS IM SPECAIL!!!...I mean '''DECLINE'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Gosh, you mean they re-use different areas from Free Country USA?! '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline that crap.''' Flash cartoons don't have angles. They are two-dimensional. -- [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:34, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Error?====

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only is it speculation, but it's factually inaccurate - prepositions should NEVER be capitalized in titles and slogans unless they are the first word (I've heard that you're always supposed to capitalize final words too, but I can't think of a case where an article, preposition, or conjunction - the three types of words left non-capitalized - would ever come up there.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Once again pontless and useless. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheatday]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Senor Shrub====
The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Old Gron Sad voice?====
Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
*'''Decline.''' I didn't really hear a difference... or find it that interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Although I noticed this, it's not worth mentioning. In fact I've noticed that Strong Sad's voice has changed quite a bit lately. Probably because he's becoming less of a staticly depressed character and one with more personality. I'm rambling though so, um yeah, decline. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It still sounds like Strong Sad, both times. I hear a difference but it doesn't really translate to 'old' and 'new'. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 23:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ow! Somebody hit me on the DECLINE!''' No. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline''' I don't hear it, but maybe its just me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline,''' but I love you anyway. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' It reminds me more of Kerropi or whatever that frog thing from Hello Kitty is called... but that's also just speculation, so... yeah. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It reminds me of a fake frog costume. I dont think there are any references in it at all. --- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm the hoppity frog of declining!''' Nope. ---[[User:That crazy DumDe!|That crazy DumDe!]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' How could thatkidsam think Senor Cardgage was the lurker in garage sale anyway? I mean, Strong Sad wasn't buying anything, and Strong Bad even called him a lurker.
*** Hey, Anonny! Why not vote on a Fun Fact and not attribute it to yourself (that is, sign your votes.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**** Er, Ogog? It seems FireBird has deleted both your user name here and your lengthy comments in "Frolic or Bet?" below, I guess because you weren't logged in.
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It could be a reference, but just as easily it could be something that Strong Sad would say. —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** Guess again. There IS no such noun as "lurk." Verb, perhaps, but that's not how SS is using it. And SS isn't SB or SC (known for their malaprops.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Okay then, name one time before Garage Sale where TBC said lurk and not in reference to Strong Sad. And the above votes are right: Lurk as used in the egg doesn't make any sense. Just say the following sentance out loud: I'm going out for a lurk. Why use lurk when "walk" or "amble" or any similiar word would have worked? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Going against the flow here, but it seems to me that the title "lurker" as used in [[garage sale]] refers specifically to behavior in garage sales, and is not something that can be done alone at night. It's the same word, but not every repetition of a word is a reference. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't really see this as a reference, but sadly your arguements have convinced me. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That was in the context of a garage sale; I don't think the simple occurence of the same word indicates a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Segundo''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:37, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I'll say it again: Strong Sad is using the word improperly ("lurk" is a verb, not a noun), and Strong Sad isn't a character known for doing that. Why, then, was the word used if not referring to [[garage sale]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:44, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Frolic or Bet?====
When Senor Cardgage says "------ around the campfire, children", you can't tell if he's saying "gambol", which means frolicking or playing, or "gamble", which means betting (obviously). I'm leaning more toward "gambol", but please, tell me what you think. The transcript says "gamble", but I think "gambol" is more Senor Cardgage.

How bout phrasing this in a way so that deleting and accepting is possible? My suggestion:

"Senor Cardgage: Gambol around the campfire, children"

*'''Accept'''. I think gambol makes more cardgage sense, as he often uses antiquated words in weird context. Gamble is just random. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' {{User:phlip/sig}} 02:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, right. All of SC's malaprops are "antiquated" words that aren't just random. Like "left" ("left name"), "lawn" ("home lawn"), "cancel" (part of "free canceltation"), "denominator/wintergreen" (two options for what Cardgage can call himself in [[kind of cool]] - these are so random, I have no idea WHAT he's really trying to say!), and maybe some others I missed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Cardgage uses words that don't have specific meanings. So I don't think this should be an issue of definition, but rather enunciation. And it sounds to me like he is pronouncing it with an "ol". So '''accept''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** Editing previous vote due to misreading: There is ''no difference'' between the proper pronunciations of "gamble" and "gambol" and it doesn't sounds to me like Cardgage is messing with the pronunciation to encourage one word over the other. So pronunciation isn't the clue we need. Neither is really the obvious word ("gather") and both are verbs so meaning is out. Only difference between the two words left is spelling - and "gamble" is by far the more common word. So I vote '''Gamble.''' But as long as it doesn't keep getting shifted back and forth and back and forth, I won't care too much. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*To quote the KOC transcript: "I'd say some cool phrase that's almost one word and not quite another." To me, it sounds like he is pronouncing it like "gambowl". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Three things here:''' First, this isn't a fun fact; it doesn't belong on this page. This discussion should be moved to the relevant [[Talk:Senorial Day|talk page]]. Second, the whole phrase is ambiguous enough that, regardless of what we decide to put in the main text, a footnote with the other spelling should be put at the bottom of the transcript, [[Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon#Footnotes|like we did here]] in "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon". Third, I think it's "gamble". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Gamble.''' Yes, "gambol" makes sense. That's exactly the reason why I'm voting for "gamble". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*"Excardon me" is a mixture between "excuse me" and "pardon me" so maybe "gamble" is a mixture between "gather" and "assemble" --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Wow, good point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second NoSmorking''' Wow! I seriously never thought of that! You rock! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I am very impressed. That is probably it. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**C'mon. Y'all are tryin' *way* too hard to make sense out of the non-sensical! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is ridiculous.''' Everything is wild speculation! It doesn't matter anyway, it's nonsense! I'd say stick to the more common word ("gamble") and leave it at that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:25, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Just a '''second.''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*I vote '''gamble''' that sounds more Senor Cardgage [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINE''' It sounds absolutely NOTHING like the song or at least very little. The only reason they're similiar is becasue they're both rhythm guitar. Case closed.
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of songs it could be referencing. Unless the line or section of the toon in question is very obviously referring to something, it seems too conjectural to claim it as a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Anonymous, GET OVER YOURSELF please. '''Decline, belindas''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 13:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Can you say, "uh-DECLINE"?''' Who cares what song it sounds a little like? Resemblance doesn't equal reference. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Life Saving Turtle====
The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].

*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak <strike>Neutral</strike> Accept.''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.
*'''Accept.''' Since when is "Everybody, everybody!" a common phrase? And nobody should say it's too obvious, because I hadn't seen the intro page in a year or so, and the reference really didn't sink in until the second (or so) time I watched it. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:48, 10 June 2005 (EST)

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

'''VERDICT:''' The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 22]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''CONTEST:''' I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective [[Talk:Main Page 22#Contest|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Second (the decline).''' If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline.''' This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Unexpected guests? ====

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Accept''' - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptyness''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:52, 9 Jun 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''"I Cut The Fact Off The STUFF Page in the Morning Light! DELETED!''' zno sir, I don't like it one bit. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* -compares- "You smell like pea soooooup!" "The Cheat is not deeeead!" There's a little bit of a similarity, but not much...'''Weak Accept.''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:56, 9 Jun 2005
*'''Weak Decline''' Yes, it's similar, but it's not the same... it's just coincidence, I think. You could just as well say that it's the same melody as the Lappy's startup noise... {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Allready voted, just a comment''' I think how it is put on [[Cell Phone]] is best.

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every
three seconds. This is one of them," is a parody of public service
announcements, which have similar lines (such as, "In the United States
alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email
every three seconds" is a reference to public service announcements
like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor
every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===

====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could it possibly be because Homestar has no nose? There is no instance of him ever smelling anything, and it's obviously not visible. However, it is particlularly clear that 1-up has a nose, especially from this cartoon. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is
programmed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[best thing]]===

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Redux====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This sounds like exactly the sort of thing TGS would reference. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:03, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Accept?''' Was he ever called "Mr. Drummond"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh yes. Mr. Drummond didn't officially adopt the boys until mid-second season, at which point they started calling him Dad. Until then, they called him Mr. Drummond or "Mr. D". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just when i sorta regained confidence in non-speculating Fun Facts. There is no notable similarity in this. Its a comic gag, not a reference. Even if it might be reference, we do not have enough proof to validate it as a "fact". In response to Jay, I don't think this will be another Change of Pace, if only because this cartoon did not come out one day after Waterboy. If that had happened it might be impossible to deflect this "fun" "reference." -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''ACCEPT''' I cried,I cried like a ten year old girl..i mean[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 19:57, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Orffsetting the accept above -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I like the part about only female anglerfish having the lights and lures. It's actually interesting. But the fact's kind of bloated right now. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. Its true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[privileges]]===

====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' What does this have do with "privileges"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===

====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deline''' Who knows, who cares? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Liekand's magic pockets====
Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.

*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== General ==

===="Crapfully yours" a running gag?====
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't even need to see the article in question to know what a load of crap it is. Its already noted in the 3 Wishes facts that Strong Bad doesn't like the "crap" signitures. A whole article is overkill. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Yes, it's a running gag, but I don't think there needs to be a whole article about it. Maybe just list it in the running gags section or something. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It is a running gag and deserves its own page, though i agree the one that Jay deleted was poorly done. If 11.01 deserves its own page, <s>crafully yours</s> crap in all of its forms does as well --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DELORTED!''' Crapfully yours, no. Crap, maybe. Ya, crap is a running gag. Crapfully yours isn't. That's like saying ''Dear Strong Bad'' is a running gag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:48:35 GMT

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

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[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
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* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

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You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[Homestar's Website]]===

====World Wide Wed...SB reference?====

Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".

*Uh, no. It may not. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS!''' CAUTION! I'M GOING ON 1 OF MY SOON-TO-BE-WORLD FAMOUS RAMPAGES! Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! Mike Chapman saying that his brother's name is Matt may refer to Matt Chapman saying that Mike Chapman WAS HIS FRIGGIN' BROTHER! STUFF MAY REFER TO SELECT THE USABLE FUN FACTS! ME GOING ON A RAMPAGE MAY REFER TO WHEN THE THERAPIST TOLD ME TO TAKE MY PILLS! SOMEONE STOP ME!{head hits keyboard}SDRLVNIBDVMOPFHUOPGNMIDLB! 18:31, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''This sort of thing is getting really old.''' I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[boring (really)]]===
====Are these really goofs? part 1====
You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.
*'''Decline.''' Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''I'll upset ''your'' balance.''' (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=boring_%28really%29&diff=93605&oldid=93598 when I STUFF'd it], it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****'''No probalo!''' If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 2====
The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.
<div style="color:#555">''This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.''</div>
*'''Decline.''' It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)</s>
**Meh, '''Accept''' it. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:50, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 3====
If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Definitely not the hat, though====
One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:boring (really)]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====«Insert hilarious joke here»====
The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)

====You said doyng again!====
Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
*'''Accept!''' Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'D''' Mmm-hmm. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''': It wasn't ''just'' a pause. He said, "What are you... '''um'''... doing..."
*** Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinating the Countryside.''' I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
**Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes ''close'', but does Strong Bad ''actually'' reference "car"? No, he does not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[old comics]]===
====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.
*I've never heard of Domenico da Comma before - ever - so '''No Comment''' right now. As for Peanuts, while it was reverted by accident, I still think it's valid (his "chicken scratch" could also have been read as apostrophes) so '''Accept.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral to the first part, accept to the second''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I've never heard of the first part, but to the second part, '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:49, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Domenico. '''Accept''' Woodstock -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:30, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline first, accept second.''' This is easy. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:34, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' first, '''second''' second. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:57, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:33, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline first, accept second.''' Incidentally, HRWiki is the first result on Google for "Domenico da Comma," and snopes doesn't list the invention of the comma as an urban legend. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:46, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:10, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' on the comma for reasons stated above, '''accept''' Woodstock. Domenico de Comma, does this guy think we're idiots?[[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Why are we still discussing the second part? Put the Woodstock reference in! —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[secret recipes]] ===

====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

*Now the first one is an obvious '''Accept,''' because the Secret deodorant ads are commonly known and widely quoted. The second one I have to '''Decline,''' because I don't think that "tasty enough for a king" is close to "flavour fit for a King." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I've kind of wondered about the purpose of the '''Second''' part of that fact as well... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:34, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' First fact accept, second decline, same reasons. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:38, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:49, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' —[[User:Mikelx215|Mikelx215]] 21:47 PM, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
====Angled?====
The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

*'''So I'm gonna hafta DECLI- Meh!''' Come on fun fact, get off the page. Fact, fact! Whoa, I caught a BIG fact!! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Today is all right for decline!''' I'm really reaching with these now, aren't I? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Diggity...diggity...DECLINE.''' There's no proof here. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 05:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondaded'''. What's the use anywho? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:17 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Decline.''' Just delete bad fun facts. There's no need to STUFF them. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* MY MOTHER SAYS IM SPECAIL!!!...I mean '''DECLINE'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Gosh, you mean they re-use different areas from Free Country USA?! '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline that crap.''' Flash cartoons don't have angles. They are two-dimensional. -- [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:34, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Error?====

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only is it speculation, but it's factually inaccurate - prepositions should NEVER be capitalized in titles and slogans unless they are the first word (I've heard that you're always supposed to capitalize final words too, but I can't think of a case where an article, preposition, or conjunction - the three types of words left non-capitalized - would ever come up there.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
***Because it's a commonly used turn of phrase?
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Please vote in a fashion that would give us the impression that your IQ surpasses your shoe size. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:15, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Seconding a Decline pun''' It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Second. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Like I don't get two jillion of these Fun Facts every two jillion '''Second'''s! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:27, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Way too much of a stretch. Seriously. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 22:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second''' --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** '''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!''' 'Nuff said. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM EDT June 5 2005.
*'''I'll let you decline... er... decide''' OMG STRONG BAD SAYS "THE" IN THIS E-MAIL WHICH IS A REFERENCE TO HOMESTAR SAYING "PAMCAKES" OMG OMG. [[User:SP|SP]]
**'''Second,''' if that's possible. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:35, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Uhh...um..yeah, Imma gonna give this 1 a '''SUPER DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Tonight equals declining.''' DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH. [[User:SP|SP]]

===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Senor Shrub====
The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Old Gron Sad voice?====
Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
*'''Decline.''' I didn't really hear a difference... or find it that interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Although I noticed this, it's not worth mentioning. In fact I've noticed that Strong Sad's voice has changed quite a bit lately. Probably because he's becoming less of a staticly depressed character and one with more personality. I'm rambling though so, um yeah, decline. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It still sounds like Strong Sad, both times. I hear a difference but it doesn't really translate to 'old' and 'new'. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 23:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ow! Somebody hit me on the DECLINE!''' No. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline''' I don't hear it, but maybe its just me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline,''' but I love you anyway. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' It reminds me more of Kerropi or whatever that frog thing from Hello Kitty is called... but that's also just speculation, so... yeah. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It reminds me of a fake frog costume. I dont think there are any references in it at all. --- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm the hoppity frog of declining!''' Nope. ---[[User:That crazy DumDe!|That crazy DumDe!]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' How could thatkidsam think Senor Cardgage was the lurker in garage sale anyway? I mean, Strong Sad wasn't buying anything, and Strong Bad even called him a lurker.
*** Hey, Anonny! Why not vote on a Fun Fact and not attribute it to yourself (that is, sign your votes.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**** Er, Ogog? It seems FireBird has deleted both your user name here and your lengthy comments in "Frolic or Bet?" below, I guess because you weren't logged in.
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It could be a reference, but just as easily it could be something that Strong Sad would say. —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** Guess again. There IS no such noun as "lurk." Verb, perhaps, but that's not how SS is using it. And SS isn't SB or SC (known for their malaprops.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Okay then, name one time before Garage Sale where TBC said lurk and not in reference to Strong Sad. And the above votes are right: Lurk as used in the egg doesn't make any sense. Just say the following sentance out loud: I'm going out for a lurk. Why use lurk when "walk" or "amble" or any similiar word would have worked? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Going against the flow here, but it seems to me that the title "lurker" as used in [[garage sale]] refers specifically to behavior in garage sales, and is not something that can be done alone at night. It's the same word, but not every repetition of a word is a reference. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't really see this as a reference, but sadly your arguements have convinced me. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That was in the context of a garage sale; I don't think the simple occurence of the same word indicates a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Segundo''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:37, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Frolic or Bet?====
When Senor Cardgage says "------ around the campfire, children", you can't tell if he's saying "gambol", which means frolicking or playing, or "gamble", which means betting (obviously). I'm leaning more toward "gambol", but please, tell me what you think. The transcript says "gamble", but I think "gambol" is more Senor Cardgage.

How bout phrasing this in a way so that deleting and accepting is possible? My suggestion:

"Senor Cardgage: Gambol around the campfire, children"

*'''Accept'''. I think gambol makes more cardgage sense, as he often uses antiquated words in weird context. Gamble is just random. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' {{User:phlip/sig}} 02:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, right. All of SC's malaprops are "antiquated" words that aren't just random. Like "left" ("left name"), "lawn" ("home lawn"), "cancel" (part of "free canceltation"), "denominator/wintergreen" (two options for what Cardgage can call himself in [[kind of cool]] - these are so random, I have no idea WHAT he's really trying to say!), and maybe some others I missed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Cardgage uses words that don't have specific meanings. So I don't think this should be an issue of definition, but rather enunciation. And it sounds to me like he is pronouncing it with an "ol". So '''accept''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** Editing previous vote due to misreading: There is ''no difference'' between the proper pronunciations of "gamble" and "gambol" and it doesn't sounds to me like Cardgage is messing with the pronunciation to encourage one word over the other. So pronunciation isn't the clue we need. Neither is really the obvious word ("gather") and both are verbs so meaning is out. Only difference between the two words left is spelling - and "gamble" is by far the more common word. So I vote '''Gamble.''' But as long as it doesn't keep getting shifted back and forth and back and forth, I won't care too much. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*To quote the KOC transcript: "I'd say some cool phrase that's almost one word and not quite another." To me, it sounds like he is pronouncing it like "gambowl". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Three things here:''' First, this isn't a fun fact; it doesn't belong on this page. This discussion should be moved to the relevant [[Talk:Senorial Day|talk page]]. Second, the whole phrase is ambiguous enough that, regardless of what we decide to put in the main text, a footnote with the other spelling should be put at the bottom of the transcript, [[Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon#Footnotes|like we did here]] in "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon". Third, I think it's "gamble". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Gamble.''' Yes, "gambol" makes sense. That's exactly the reason why I'm voting for "gamble". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*"Excardon me" is a mixture between "excuse me" and "pardon me" so maybe "gamble" is a mixture between "gather" and "assemble" --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Wow, good point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second NoSmorking''' Wow! I seriously never thought of that! You rock! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I am very impressed. That is probably it. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**C'mon. Y'all are tryin' *way* too hard to make sense out of the non-sensical! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is ridiculous.''' Everything is wild speculation! It doesn't matter anyway, it's nonsense! I'd say stick to the more common word ("gamble") and leave it at that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:25, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Just a '''second.''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*I vote '''gamble''' that sounds more Senor Cardgage [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINE''' It sounds absolutely NOTHING like the song or at least very little. The only reason they're similiar is becasue they're both rhythm guitar. Case closed.
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of songs it could be referencing. Unless the line or section of the toon in question is very obviously referring to something, it seems too conjectural to claim it as a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Anonymous, GET OVER YOURSELF please. '''Decline, belindas''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 13:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Can you say, "uh-DECLINE"?''' Who cares what song it sounds a little like? Resemblance doesn't equal reference. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Life Saving Turtle====
The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].

*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.
*'''Accept.''' Since when is "Everybody, everybody!" a common phrase? And nobody should say it's too obvious, because I hadn't seen the intro page in a year or so, and the reference really didn't sink in until the second (or so) time I watched it. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:48, 10 June 2005 (EST)

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

'''VERDICT:''' The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 22]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''CONTEST:''' I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective [[Talk:Main Page 22#Contest|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Second (the decline).''' If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline.''' This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Unexpected guests? ====

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Accept''' - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptyness''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:52, 9 Jun 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''"I Cut The Fact Off The STUFF Page in the Morning Light! DELETED!''' zno sir, I don't like it one bit. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* -compares- "You smell like pea soooooup!" "The Cheat is not deeeead!" There's a little bit of a similarity, but not much...'''Weak Accept.''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:56, 9 Jun 2005
*'''Weak Decline''' Yes, it's similar, but it's not the same... it's just coincidence, I think. You could just as well say that it's the same melody as the Lappy's startup noise... {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Allready voted, just a comment''' I think how it is put on [[Cell Phone]] is best.

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every
three seconds. This is one of them," is a parody of public service
announcements, which have similar lines (such as, "In the United States
alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email
every three seconds" is a reference to public service announcements
like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor
every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===

====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could it possibly be because Homestar has no nose? There is no instance of him ever smelling anything, and it's obviously not visible. However, it is particlularly clear that 1-up has a nose, especially from this cartoon. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is
programmed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[best thing]]===

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Redux====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This sounds like exactly the sort of thing TGS would reference. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:03, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Accept?''' Was he ever called "Mr. Drummond"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh yes. Mr. Drummond didn't officially adopt the boys until mid-second season, at which point they started calling him Dad. Until then, they called him Mr. Drummond or "Mr. D". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just when i sorta regained confidence in non-speculating Fun Facts. There is no notable similarity in this. Its a comic gag, not a reference. Even if it might be reference, we do not have enough proof to validate it as a "fact". In response to Jay, I don't think this will be another Change of Pace, if only because this cartoon did not come out one day after Waterboy. If that had happened it might be impossible to deflect this "fun" "reference." -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''ACCEPT''' I cried,I cried like a ten year old girl..i mean[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 19:57, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Orffsetting the accept above -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I like the part about only female anglerfish having the lights and lures. It's actually interesting. But the fact's kind of bloated right now. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. Its true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[privileges]]===

====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' What does this have do with "privileges"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===

====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deline''' Who knows, who cares? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Liekand's magic pockets====
Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.

*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== General ==

===="Crapfully yours" a running gag?====
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't even need to see the article in question to know what a load of crap it is. Its already noted in the 3 Wishes facts that Strong Bad doesn't like the "crap" signitures. A whole article is overkill. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Yes, it's a running gag, but I don't think there needs to be a whole article about it. Maybe just list it in the running gags section or something. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It is a running gag and deserves its own page, though i agree the one that Jay deleted was poorly done. If 11.01 deserves its own page, <s>crafully yours</s> crap in all of its forms does as well --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DELORTED!''' Crapfully yours, no. Crap, maybe. Ya, crap is a running gag. Crapfully yours isn't. That's like saying ''Dear Strong Bad'' is a running gag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:36:50 GMT

SBEmail22: /* «Insert hilarious joke here» */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[Homestar's Website]]===

====World Wide Wed...SB reference?====

Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".

*Uh, no. It may not. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS!''' CAUTION! I'M GOING ON 1 OF MY SOON-TO-BE-WORLD FAMOUS RAMPAGES! Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! Mike Chapman saying that his brother's name is Matt may refer to Matt Chapman saying that Mike Chapman WAS HIS FRIGGIN' BROTHER! STUFF MAY REFER TO SELECT THE USABLE FUN FACTS! ME GOING ON A RAMPAGE MAY REFER TO WHEN THE THERAPIST TOLD ME TO TAKE MY PILLS! SOMEONE STOP ME!{head hits keyboard}SDRLVNIBDVMOPFHUOPGNMIDLB! 18:31, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''This sort of thing is getting really old.''' I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[boring (really)]]===
====Are these really goofs? part 1====
You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.
*'''Decline.''' Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''I'll upset ''your'' balance.''' (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=boring_%28really%29&diff=93605&oldid=93598 when I STUFF'd it], it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****'''No probalo!''' If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 2====
The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.
<div style="color:#555">''This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.''</div>
*'''Decline.''' It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)</s>
**Meh, '''Accept''' it. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:50, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 3====
If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Definitely not the hat, though====
One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:boring (really)]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====«Insert hilarious joke here»====
The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)

====You said doyng again!====
Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
*'''Accept!''' Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'D''' Mmm-hmm. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''': It wasn't ''just'' a pause. He said, "What are you... '''um'''... doing..."
*** Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinating the Countryside.''' I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
**Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes ''close'', but does Strong Bad ''actually'' reference "car"? No, he does not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[old comics]]===
====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.
*I've never heard of Domenico da Comma before - ever - so '''No Comment''' right now. As for Peanuts, while it was reverted by accident, I still think it's valid (his "chicken scratch" could also have been read as apostrophes) so '''Accept.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral to the first part, accept to the second''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I've never heard of the first part, but to the second part, '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:49, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Domenico. '''Accept''' Woodstock -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:30, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline first, accept second.''' This is easy. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:34, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' first, '''second''' second. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:57, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:33, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline first, accept second.''' Incidentally, HRWiki is the first result on Google for "Domenico da Comma," and snopes doesn't list the invention of the comma as an urban legend. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:46, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:10, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' on the comma for reasons stated above, '''accept''' Woodstock. Domenico de Comma, does this guy think we're idiots?[[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Why are we still discussing the second part? Put the Woodstock reference in! —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[secret recipes]] ===

====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

*Now the first one is an obvious '''Accept,''' because the Secret deodorant ads are commonly known and widely quoted. The second one I have to '''Decline,''' because I don't think that "tasty enough for a king" is close to "flavour fit for a King." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I've kind of wondered about the purpose of the '''Second''' part of that fact as well... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:34, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' First fact accept, second decline, same reasons. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:38, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:49, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' —[[User:Mikelx215|Mikelx215]] 21:47 PM, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
====Angled?====
The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

*'''So I'm gonna hafta DECLI- Meh!''' Come on fun fact, get off the page. Fact, fact! Whoa, I caught a BIG fact!! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Today is all right for decline!''' I'm really reaching with these now, aren't I? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Diggity...diggity...DECLINE.''' There's no proof here. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 05:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondaded'''. What's the use anywho? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:17 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Decline.''' Just delete bad fun facts. There's no need to STUFF them. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* MY MOTHER SAYS IM SPECAIL!!!...I mean '''DECLINE'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Gosh, you mean they re-use different areas from Free Country USA?! '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline that crap.''' Flash cartoons don't have angles. They are two-dimensional. -- [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:34, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Error?====

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only is it speculation, but it's factually inaccurate - prepositions should NEVER be capitalized in titles and slogans unless they are the first word (I've heard that you're always supposed to capitalize final words too, but I can't think of a case where an article, preposition, or conjunction - the three types of words left non-capitalized - would ever come up there.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
***Because it's a commonly used turn of phrase?
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Please vote in a fashion that would give us the impression that your IQ surpasses your shoe size. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:15, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Seconding a Decline pun''' It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Second. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Like I don't get two jillion of these Fun Facts every two jillion '''Second'''s! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:27, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Way too much of a stretch. Seriously. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 22:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second''' --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** '''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!''' 'Nuff said. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM EDT June 5 2005.
*'''I'll let you decline... er... decide''' OMG STRONG BAD SAYS "THE" IN THIS E-MAIL WHICH IS A REFERENCE TO HOMESTAR SAYING "PAMCAKES" OMG OMG. [[User:SP|SP]]
**'''Second,''' if that's possible. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:35, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Uhh...um..yeah, Imma gonna give this 1 a '''SUPER DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Tonight equals declining.''' DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH. [[User:SP|SP]]

===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Senor Shrub====
The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Old Gron Sad voice?====
Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
*'''Decline.''' I didn't really hear a difference... or find it that interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Although I noticed this, it's not worth mentioning. In fact I've noticed that Strong Sad's voice has changed quite a bit lately. Probably because he's becoming less of a staticly depressed character and one with more personality. I'm rambling though so, um yeah, decline. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It still sounds like Strong Sad, both times. I hear a difference but it doesn't really translate to 'old' and 'new'. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 23:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ow! Somebody hit me on the DECLINE!''' No. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline''' I don't hear it, but maybe its just me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline,''' but I love you anyway. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' It reminds me more of Kerropi or whatever that frog thing from Hello Kitty is called... but that's also just speculation, so... yeah. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It reminds me of a fake frog costume. I dont think there are any references in it at all. --- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm the hoppity frog of declining!''' Nope. ---[[User:That crazy DumDe!|That crazy DumDe!]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' How could thatkidsam think Senor Cardgage was the lurker in garage sale anyway? I mean, Strong Sad wasn't buying anything, and Strong Bad even called him a lurker.
*** Hey, Anonny! Why not vote on a Fun Fact and not attribute it to yourself (that is, sign your votes.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**** Er, Ogog? It seems FireBird has deleted both your user name here and your lengthy comments in "Frolic or Bet?" below, I guess because you weren't logged in.
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It could be a reference, but just as easily it could be something that Strong Sad would say. —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** Guess again. There IS no such noun as "lurk." Verb, perhaps, but that's not how SS is using it. And SS isn't SB or SC (known for their malaprops.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Okay then, name one time before Garage Sale where TBC said lurk and not in reference to Strong Sad. And the above votes are right: Lurk as used in the egg doesn't make any sense. Just say the following sentance out loud: I'm going out for a lurk. Why use lurk when "walk" or "amble" or any similiar word would have worked? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Going against the flow here, but it seems to me that the title "lurker" as used in [[garage sale]] refers specifically to behavior in garage sales, and is not something that can be done alone at night. It's the same word, but not every repetition of a word is a reference. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't really see this as a reference, but sadly your arguements have convinced me. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That was in the context of a garage sale; I don't think the simple occurence of the same word indicates a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Segundo''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:37, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Frolic or Bet?====
When Senor Cardgage says "------ around the campfire, children", you can't tell if he's saying "gambol", which means frolicking or playing, or "gamble", which means betting (obviously). I'm leaning more toward "gambol", but please, tell me what you think. The transcript says "gamble", but I think "gambol" is more Senor Cardgage.

How bout phrasing this in a way so that deleting and accepting is possible? My suggestion:

"Senor Cardgage: Gambol around the campfire, children"

*'''Accept'''. I think gambol makes more cardgage sense, as he often uses antiquated words in weird context. Gamble is just random. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' {{User:phlip/sig}} 02:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, right. All of SC's malaprops are "antiquated" words that aren't just random. Like "left" ("left name"), "lawn" ("home lawn"), "cancel" (part of "free canceltation"), "denominator/wintergreen" (two options for what Cardgage can call himself in [[kind of cool]] - these are so random, I have no idea WHAT he's really trying to say!), and maybe some others I missed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Cardgage uses words that don't have specific meanings. So I don't think this should be an issue of definition, but rather enunciation. And it sounds to me like he is pronouncing it with an "ol". So '''accept''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** Editing previous vote due to misreading: There is ''no difference'' between the proper pronunciations of "gamble" and "gambol" and it doesn't sounds to me like Cardgage is messing with the pronunciation to encourage one word over the other. So pronunciation isn't the clue we need. Neither is really the obvious word ("gather") and both are verbs so meaning is out. Only difference between the two words left is spelling - and "gamble" is by far the more common word. So I vote '''Gamble.''' But as long as it doesn't keep getting shifted back and forth and back and forth, I won't care too much. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*To quote the KOC transcript: "I'd say some cool phrase that's almost one word and not quite another." To me, it sounds like he is pronouncing it like "gambowl". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Three things here:''' First, this isn't a fun fact; it doesn't belong on this page. This discussion should be moved to the relevant [[Talk:Senorial Day|talk page]]. Second, the whole phrase is ambiguous enough that, regardless of what we decide to put in the main text, a footnote with the other spelling should be put at the bottom of the transcript, [[Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon#Footnotes|like we did here]] in "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon". Third, I think it's "gamble". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Gamble.''' Yes, "gambol" makes sense. That's exactly the reason why I'm voting for "gamble". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*"Excardon me" is a mixture between "excuse me" and "pardon me" so maybe "gamble" is a mixture between "gather" and "assemble" --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Wow, good point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second NoSmorking''' Wow! I seriously never thought of that! You rock! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I am very impressed. That is probably it. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**C'mon. Y'all are tryin' *way* too hard to make sense out of the non-sensical! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is ridiculous.''' Everything is wild speculation! It doesn't matter anyway, it's nonsense! I'd say stick to the more common word ("gamble") and leave it at that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:25, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Just a '''second.''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*I vote '''gamble''' that sounds more Senor Cardgage [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINE''' It sounds absolutely NOTHING like the song or at least very little. The only reason they're similiar is becasue they're both rhythm guitar. Case closed.
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of songs it could be referencing. Unless the line or section of the toon in question is very obviously referring to something, it seems too conjectural to claim it as a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Anonymous, GET OVER YOURSELF please. '''Decline, belindas''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 13:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Can you say, "uh-DECLINE"?''' Who cares what song it sounds a little like? Resemblance doesn't equal reference. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Life Saving Turtle====
The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].

*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

'''VERDICT:''' The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 22]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''CONTEST:''' I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective [[Talk:Main Page 22#Contest|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Second (the decline).''' If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline.''' This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Unexpected guests? ====

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Accept''' - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptyness''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:52, 9 Jun 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''"I Cut The Fact Off The STUFF Page in the Morning Light! DELETED!''' zno sir, I don't like it one bit. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* -compares- "You smell like pea soooooup!" "The Cheat is not deeeead!" There's a little bit of a similarity, but not much...'''Weak Accept.''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:56, 9 Jun 2005
*'''Weak Decline''' Yes, it's similar, but it's not the same... it's just coincidence, I think. You could just as well say that it's the same melody as the Lappy's startup noise... {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Allready voted, just a comment''' I think how it is put on [[Cell Phone]] is best.

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every
three seconds. This is one of them," is a parody of public service
announcements, which have similar lines (such as, "In the United States
alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email
every three seconds" is a reference to public service announcements
like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor
every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===

====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could it possibly be because Homestar has no nose? There is no instance of him ever smelling anything, and it's obviously not visible. However, it is particlularly clear that 1-up has a nose, especially from this cartoon. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is
programmed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[best thing]]===

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Redux====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This sounds like exactly the sort of thing TGS would reference. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:03, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Accept?''' Was he ever called "Mr. Drummond"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh yes. Mr. Drummond didn't officially adopt the boys until mid-second season, at which point they started calling him Dad. Until then, they called him Mr. Drummond or "Mr. D". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just when i sorta regained confidence in non-speculating Fun Facts. There is no notable similarity in this. Its a comic gag, not a reference. Even if it might be reference, we do not have enough proof to validate it as a "fact". In response to Jay, I don't think this will be another Change of Pace, if only because this cartoon did not come out one day after Waterboy. If that had happened it might be impossible to deflect this "fun" "reference." -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''ACCEPT''' I cried,I cried like a ten year old girl..i mean[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 19:57, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Orffsetting the accept above -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I like the part about only female anglerfish having the lights and lures. It's actually interesting. But the fact's kind of bloated right now. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. Its true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[privileges]]===

====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' What does this have do with "privileges"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===

====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deline''' Who knows, who cares? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Liekand's magic pockets====
Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.

*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== General ==

===="Crapfully yours" a running gag?====
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't even need to see the article in question to know what a load of crap it is. Its already noted in the 3 Wishes facts that Strong Bad doesn't like the "crap" signitures. A whole article is overkill. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Yes, it's a running gag, but I don't think there needs to be a whole article about it. Maybe just list it in the running gags section or something. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It is a running gag and deserves its own page, though i agree the one that Jay deleted was poorly done. If 11.01 deserves its own page, <s>crafully yours</s> crap in all of its forms does as well --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DELORTED!''' Crapfully yours, no. Crap, maybe. Ya, crap is a running gag. Crapfully yours isn't. That's like saying ''Dear Strong Bad'' is a running gag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

car

SBEmail22 — Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:19:22 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Real-World References */

[[Image:car03.png|thumb|No, it says...]]

'''Strong Bad Email #101'''

Kyle asks about Strong Bad's car, which he apparently doesn't have.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Sad]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Sad's Room]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' April 20, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 2:52

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' The views expressed in the following email show do not necessarily reflect the opinions of anybody cool. Oh, except me. ''{lowers voice}'' I'm cool.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="email">Dear Strong Bad, 
Do you Have a car If you do what Kind 
of car is it. Is it Pimped OUt? 
 
From Kyle 
in West Point, NY (Military Base)</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads the email exactly as it's typed, punctuation errors and all, except for the word "Pimped", which he pronounces "Pimp-id"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh, good one Kyle. Like I don't get two jillion of these emails every two jillion seconds. Er. Wait. Would that be so bad? Hmmm. I'll have to ask Strong Sad ''{Typed as Gron Sad} ''about that later on. Maybe write in to 'Popular Science' about it. "''Popular Science''." No such thing, man. More like, "Nerdular Nerdence." ''{clears screen, continues typing}'' Anydangway, to properly make an example out of both you, and your email's butts, I'm going to whip out an old classic move of mine, and hit you with a little uhhhh digga digga digga digga digga digga DEL

''{Cut to a wider view of Strong Bad's desk, where Homestar is off to the right.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Interrupting Strong Bad}'' Hup-chup-chup-chup. ''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar.}'' Allow me to save this email from a tired old Strong Bad joke by showing all y'alls my new tricked out propeller cap.

''{Cut back to zoomed view of Strong Bad and Homestar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Shaking fist}'' What are you doing?

'''HOMESTAR:''' Ummm... Did you just say "doing"? ''{This is said as to rhyme with "boing."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? No. Doo-ing. I said, "What are you ''doo-ing''?".

'''HOMESTAR:''' Oh. Well, you spelled it the same.

''{Strong Bad makes a noise of frustration.}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' Anyways, on to my cool words that I had to say. First, check out all my hydraulics. ''{Homestar pulls out a remote control with three switches on it. He flips the first two. His cap moves up and down on his head, making mechanical car hydraulic noises. He then continues to mix and match the usage of the switches to adjust the pitch, yaw, and angle of his cap in regards to his head. While this is going on, he continues to talk, commenting on the particular movements.}'' And a little... ''{His cap goes up, forward, back, forward, back, forward, back, and then down onto his head again.}'' And everybody loves... ''{His cap slides up, and then forward on his head.}'' Now turn the lights down ''low''. ''{The lights dim, and his cap glows pink from underneath.}'' Sweetish ground effects. ''{The room lights brighten and the "effects" turn off.}'' And the coup ''{''Coup'' is said as "koop."}'' de grace, ''{He bends down putting his cap within the reach of Strong Bad.}'' Spin my buzzer.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Your ''what''?

'''HOMESTAR:''' My buzzer. Give it a spin.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, why am I doing this?

'''HOMESTAR:''' Oh! you said "doing" ''{He pronounces it as spelled.}'' again.

''{Strong Bad makes some frustrated noises. He then spins the propeller on Homestar's cap. It gives a propeller-like sound.}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' ''{Singing as the spin continues}'' Dooooo, doo doo doo dooooooooo. Dooo doot doot doot doot! Doo da doo da doo! Doo doot!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now you're singing the theme from ''Night Court''?

'''HOMESTAR:''' No, not ''singing''. When you spin my buzzer, it ''plays'' the theme from ''Night Court'' starring Richard Moll. And it's custom-installed.

''{Strong Bad begins writing something unseen on his boxing glove with a permanent marker while muttering. The words "custom installed" are the only audible words he mutters.}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' Now what are ''you'' doing? ''{This is '''still''' rhymed with ''boing''.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I'm just tricking out my fist here.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Oh cool. What's it going to say? 2-E-Z? ''{2-E-Z flashes on the screen.}'' Or, like, NEVA-DIE? ''{NEVA-DIE flashes on the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, it says this. ''{He shows Homestar. Written on his boxing glove is a mirrored "DELETED" in Gothic text.}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' Strong Bad, they spelled that backwards. You need to take that thing back right—

''{Strong Bad dives forward and punches Homestar. The screen goes white for a moment. Fade back to Homestar leaning up against a crack in the wall from the impact with his head. He's lost his cap, his eyes are X's, Strong Bad's fist has left the Gothic "DELETED" imprinted on his forehead. Yellow stars float around his head.}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' Ooohh oooh. Thank you once again for my pies. I spent particular effort on the crème bernard.

''{Cut to Strong Bad back at the Compy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, that straightens everything out, right? As for you, Kyle, I don't have a car. You ever see me in a car? No! Bye. ''{Strong Bad stops typing and runs off to the right. After a moment, he pokes his head back on the screen.}'' Talk to my man with the green and white stripes!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on the word ''car'' at the end to see Homestar Runner dazed again.
=== Transcript ===
:''{Cut to a still-dazed Homestar Runner.}''

:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{dazed}'' Such a lovely gathering of pies and pie people... I'd like to give a shout-out to lemon potato over there...

*Click on the word "No!" at the end to see Strong Bad talking with Strong Sad.

=== Transcript ===
:''{Cut to Strong Sad's Room. Strong Sad is reading a copy of Nerdular Nerdence. Enter Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey! Gron Sad!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{He looks up.}'' Why do you keep calling me that?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I dunno...change of pace. Anyways, how many emails would it be if you got, like, two jillion emails every two jillion seconds? Like, a lot, or a little?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Jillion is not a real unit of measure!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whatever, NERD! ''{Strong Bad leaves.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' That's right! ''{He holds up his hand.}'' Say it again!

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*In both this email and [[invisibility]], Homestar was taken by surprise. Homestar can beat up Strong Bad easily, as shown in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]].
*The page in ''Nerdular Nerdence'' that Strong Sad is reading says "electrons, scalene triangles, least ...mon denominators." "Mon" probably indicates the end of "common."

===Remarks===
*If you get two jillion emails every two jillion seconds, then you get an average of one email per second, because any nonzero number divided by itself (even made-up numbers like a jillion) is one.
*Strong Sad states that a "jillion is not a real unit of measure." Strong Sad is right...and he's wrong! Strong Bad uses "a jillion" as a number, not as a [[Wikipedia:Units_of_measure|unit of measure]].
*Strong Bad is right-handed, but he hits Homestar with his left hand (presumably so he could write in Old-English font with his right hand, so when he hit Homestar the word ''DELETED'' would not look sloppy). His off-hand punch is quite impressive, leaving us to wonder what a full-force right hook would do to Homestar.
**It also may be more evidence to the fact that Strong Bad could be ambidexterous.

===Glitches===
*After the ''Nerdular Nerdence'' egg, you can hear the beginning of the Homestar egg just before the scene cuts back to the computer. This is due to the fact that the gotoandstop(); command is being performed later than it should be.

===Inside References===
*"A-Digga-Digga-...DELETED!" is a reference to [[unused emails]].
* Strong Bad writes with a [[Fine Tip Permanent Marker]].

===Real-World References===
*''[[IMDB:tt0086770|Night Court]]'' was a popular TV sitcom running 1984 to 1992. [[IMDB:nm0596986|Richard Moll]] played the part of baliff Bull Shannon. The theme to the show was composed by [[IMDB:nm0254477|Jack Elliot]]. Elliot was also the composer of the ''[[IMDB:tt0072472|Barney Miller]]'' theme.
*[http://www.popsci.com/popsci/ ''Popular Science''] is a magazine that features the latest breakthroughs in science and technology in a format that appeals to the common man.

===Fast Forward===
*Strong Bad can later be seen in a [[Gremlin|car]] in [[dangeresque 3]].
*Homestar again referred to his propeller as a "buzzer" in [[Some Puppet Stuff]] on the [[strongbad_email.exe]] DVDs.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail101.html|watch "car"]]
*[[HR:sbemail101.swf|view the Flash file for "car"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:06:25 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Are these really goofs? part 1 */

__NOTOC__
<div id="shortcut" style="border: 1px dashed blue; margin: 0em 1em 0em 1em; text-align: center; padding:5px; float: right; clear: both;">
Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[boring (really)]]===
====Are these really goofs? part 1====
You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.
*'''Decline.''' Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)

====Are these really goofs? part 2====
The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.
<div style="color:#555">''This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.''</div>
*'''Decline.''' It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 3====
If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Definitely not the hat, though====
One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.
* '''Turbo-decline''' Do I even have to say anything? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 02:08, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Decline''' In fact, I wouldn't even have wasted my time STUFFing it. Real words that have been around for centuries (if not longer) are not references to sitcoms. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Strong decline''' I already deleted it and I stand by this. It's a word. A three letter word. Any more speculation is moot. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:11, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* here's a three letter word that I know... '''DECLINE!!!!!!!!!''' [[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 02:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Or it could be a reference to Skull from the popular web comic PVP who sometimes wears a...nuts to it. This fun fact sucks. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*And prepare to experience the fury of... the '''Decline.''' When Strong Bad says wet, it might be a reference to the [[Theme Song Video]] in which Homestar dives into a pool and gets wet. Of course, it's probably not. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:02, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ain't Never Gonna Accept It Without The Fez On.''' Ummm, decline. It's obviously a [http://www.steelydan.com/lyrroyalscam.html#track5 Steely Dan] reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, no it isn't a "refference." It's not even a reference. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, no, no, no, no. That is not right at all. Making this fact appear on this site is NOT what I had in mind!''' It is a three letter word. Okay? It is not a reference to That 70's Show, just as it is not a reference to Austin Powers. So I say '''DECLINE.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:18, 7 Jun 2005 (EST)
* Here's something: '''SECOND WITH EVERYBODY.''' Although I haven't watched "That 70's Show", this could either be: 1, a coincidence, or, 2 as tomstiff said, another refrence. [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:06, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I was just being facetious about the Steely Dan reference. Sometimes a fez is just a brimless cone-shaped flat-crowned tasseled hat made of red felt worn especially by men in eastern Mediterranean countries. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Decline.''' Possible, but... nah. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Just delete this waste of html now!''' this is just stupid. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:05, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====«Insert hilarious joke here»====
The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====You said doyng again!====
Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
*'''Accept!''' Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'D''' Mmm-hmm. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[old comics]]===
====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.
*I've never heard of Domenico da Comma before - ever - so '''No Comment''' right now. As for Peanuts, while it was reverted by accident, I still think it's valid (his "chicken scratch" could also have been read as apostrophes) so '''Accept.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral to the first part, accept to the second''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I've never heard of the first part, but to the second part, '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:49, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Domenico. '''Accept''' Woodstock -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:30, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline first, accept second.''' This is easy. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:34, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' first, '''second''' second. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:57, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:33, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline first, accept second.''' Incidentally, HRWiki is the first result on Google for "Domenico da Comma," and snopes doesn't list the invention of the comma as an urban legend. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:46, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:10, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' on the comma for reasons stated above, '''accept''' Woodstock. Domenico de Comma, does this guy think we're idiots?[[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Why are we still discussing the second part? Put the Woodstock reference in! —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[secret recipes]] ===

====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

*Now the first one is an obvious '''Accept,''' because the Secret deodorant ads are commonly known and widely quoted. The second one I have to '''Decline,''' because I don't think that "tasty enough for a king" is close to "flavour fit for a King." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I've kind of wondered about the purpose of the '''Second''' part of that fact as well... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:34, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' First fact accept, second decline, same reasons. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:38, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:49, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
====Angled?====
The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

*'''So I'm gonna hafta DECLI- Meh!''' Come on fun fact, get off the page. Fact, fact! Whoa, I caught a BIG fact!! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Today is all right for decline!''' I'm really reaching with these now, aren't I? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Diggity...diggity...DECLINE.''' There's no proof here. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 05:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondaded'''. What's the use anywho? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:17 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Decline.''' Just delete bad fun facts. There's no need to STUFF them. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* MY MOTHER SAYS IM SPECAIL!!!...I mean '''DECLINE'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Gosh, you mean they re-use different areas from Free Country USA?! '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline that crap.''' Flash cartoons don't have angles. They are two-dimensional. -- [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:34, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Error?====

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only is it speculation, but it's factually inaccurate - prepositions should NEVER be capitalized in titles and slogans unless they are the first word (I've heard that you're always supposed to capitalize final words too, but I can't think of a case where an article, preposition, or conjunction - the three types of words left non-capitalized - would ever come up there.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
***Because it's a commonly used turn of phrase?
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Please vote in a fashion that would give us the impression that your IQ surpasses your shoe size. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:15, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Seconding a Decline pun''' It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Second. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Like I don't get two jillion of these Fun Facts every two jillion '''Second'''s! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:27, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Way too much of a stretch. Seriously. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 22:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second''' --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** '''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!''' 'Nuff said. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM EDT June 5 2005.
*'''I'll let you decline... er... decide''' OMG STRONG BAD SAYS "THE" IN THIS E-MAIL WHICH IS A REFERENCE TO HOMESTAR SAYING "PAMCAKES" OMG OMG. [[User:SP|SP]]
**'''Second,''' if that's possible. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:35, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Uhh...um..yeah, Imma gonna give this 1 a '''SUPER DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Tonight equals declining.''' DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH. [[User:SP|SP]]

===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Senor Shrub====
The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].

*Yes, it is. '''Accept''' - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:33, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Accept.''' My thoughts exactly, Tony. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:34, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Accept'd.''' Yep - same shrub alright. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:43, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Ah, a good fun fact for once. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''You'll save like an ACCEPT, or my name ain't Cheatachu72!''' Yeah, sure. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 23:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Go for it. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. Just get rid of the "In Senorial Day" bit at the start when it's added to the page. {{User:phlip/sig}} 05:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded''' because I have seen it firsthanded. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:19 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Weak accept''' Fairly obvious to me but I guess other peoples might not get the referance right away. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**I didnt get it the first time I watched it so... --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:36, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Old Gron Sad voice?====
Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
*'''Decline.''' I didn't really hear a difference... or find it that interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Although I noticed this, it's not worth mentioning. In fact I've noticed that Strong Sad's voice has changed quite a bit lately. Probably because he's becoming less of a staticly depressed character and one with more personality. I'm rambling though so, um yeah, decline. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It still sounds like Strong Sad, both times. I hear a difference but it doesn't really translate to 'old' and 'new'. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 23:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ow! Somebody hit me on the DECLINE!''' No. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline''' I don't hear it, but maybe its just me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline,''' but I love you anyway. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' It reminds me more of Kerropi or whatever that frog thing from Hello Kitty is called... but that's also just speculation, so... yeah. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It reminds me of a fake frog costume. I dont think there are any references in it at all. --- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*****'''Second With Modification''': Should read "The reference is taken - loosely - from the Disney cartoon series ''Kim Possible'', in which one of the villians is named Señor Señor, Senior." [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:36 PM EDT June 6 2005.
****** I, uh, hope you're talking about my Fun Fact title and not the Fact itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
******* It's the fact, Jack! [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 7:48 PM EDT JUne 6 2005.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 16:19, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This seems like a totally uninteresting fact to me personally, but it's true and enough people think otherwise for it to be worth including. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't know about you guys, but I personally love this fact. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't see what's so fun about this particular fact, if indeed that's what it is.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It could be a reference, but just as easily it could be something that Strong Sad would say. —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** Guess again. There IS no such noun as "lurk." Verb, perhaps, but that's not how SS is using it. And SS isn't SB or SC (known for their malaprops.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Okay then, name one time before Garage Sale where TBC said lurk and not in reference to Strong Sad. And the above votes are right: Lurk as used in the egg doesn't make any sense. Just say the following sentance out loud: I'm going out for a lurk. Why use lurk when "walk" or "amble" or any similiar word would have worked? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Going against the flow here, but it seems to me that the title "lurker" as used in [[garage sale]] refers specifically to behavior in garage sales, and is not something that can be done alone at night. It's the same word, but not every repetition of a word is a reference. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't really see this as a reference, but sadly your arguements have convinced me. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That was in the context of a garage sale; I don't think the simple occurence of the same word indicates a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Segundo''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:37, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Frolic or Bet?====
When Senor Cardgage says "------ around the campfire, children", you can't tell if he's saying "gambol", which means frolicking or playing, or "gamble", which means betting (obviously). I'm leaning more toward "gambol", but please, tell me what you think. The transcript says "gamble", but I think "gambol" is more Senor Cardgage.

How bout phrasing this in a way so that deleting and accepting is possible? My suggestion:

"Senor Cardgage: Gambol around the campfire, children"

*'''Accept'''. I think gambol makes more cardgage sense, as he often uses antiquated words in weird context. Gamble is just random. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' {{User:phlip/sig}} 02:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, right. All of SC's malaprops are "antiquated" words that aren't just random. Like "left" ("left name"), "lawn" ("home lawn"), "cancel" (part of "free canceltation"), "denominator/wintergreen" (two options for what Cardgage can call himself in [[kind of cool]] - these are so random, I have no idea WHAT he's really trying to say!), and maybe some others I missed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Cardgage uses words that don't have specific meanings. So I don't think this should be an issue of definition, but rather enunciation. And it sounds to me like he is pronouncing it with an "ol". So '''accept''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** Editing previous vote due to misreading: There is ''no difference'' between the proper pronunciations of "gamble" and "gambol" and it doesn't sounds to me like Cardgage is messing with the pronunciation to encourage one word over the other. So pronunciation isn't the clue we need. Neither is really the obvious word ("gather") and both are verbs so meaning is out. Only difference between the two words left is spelling - and "gamble" is by far the more common word. So I vote '''Gamble.''' But as long as it doesn't keep getting shifted back and forth and back and forth, I won't care too much. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*To quote the KOC transcript: "I'd say some cool phrase that's almost one word and not quite another." To me, it sounds like he is pronouncing it like "gambowl". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Three things here:''' First, this isn't a fun fact; it doesn't belong on this page. This discussion should be moved to the relevant [[Talk:Senorial Day|talk page]]. Second, the whole phrase is ambiguous enough that, regardless of what we decide to put in the main text, a footnote with the other spelling should be put at the bottom of the transcript, [[Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon#Footnotes|like we did here]] in "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon". Third, I think it's "gamble". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Gamble.''' Yes, "gambol" makes sense. That's exactly the reason why I'm voting for "gamble". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*"Excardon me" is a mixture between "excuse me" and "pardon me" so maybe "gamble" is a mixture between "gather" and "assemble" --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Wow, good point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second NoSmorking''' Wow! I seriously never thought of that! You rock! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I am very impressed. That is probably it. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**C'mon. Y'all are tryin' *way* too hard to make sense out of the non-sensical! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is ridiculous.''' Everything is wild speculation! It doesn't matter anyway, it's nonsense! I'd say stick to the more common word ("gamble") and leave it at that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:25, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Just a '''second.''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINE''' It sounds absolutely NOTHING like the song or at least very little. The only reason they're similiar is becasue they're both rhythm guitar. Case closed.
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of songs it could be referencing. Unless the line or section of the toon in question is very obviously referring to something, it seems too conjectural to claim it as a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Anonymous, GET OVER YOURSELF please. '''Decline, belindas''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 13:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Can you say, "uh-DECLINE"?''' Who cares what song it sounds a little like? Resemblance doesn't equal reference. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''No it looks more like a cold pill [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''secondation''' Which is exactly why I (feebly) created the [[Pills]] Inside jokes page. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing

====The Life Saving Turtle====
The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].

*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''AN ACTUAL ACCEPT.''' I checked, and it's definitely the one from the H*T, not "the show." And the "TBC reuse stuff all the time" argument doesn't work here because it's virus stuff, and one of the main things with the virus stuff is that they use a lot of old stuff. Should we get rid of the "With Marzipan's radish we're gonna win the competition" quote from the [[virus]] e-mail? [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 22:31, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Second (the decline).''' If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Unexpected guests? ====

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Accept''' - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why is it that using the same word means it's a reference to another toon where that word is used? That does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second,''' except for the part about Chewbacca.

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Yeah. It does.
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What with the angry mothers, and the declining in the town square for all to see...''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:52, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a
"DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''weak accept''' Because, when we think of deleted, we usually think of Strong Bad saying aloud "deleted," and DELETED appearing on the screen. Except here, he said "do over" and the screen displayed "DO OVER!" Every time the screen on any computer has said deleted, Strong Bad has said it. But, it doesn't always do what he tells it to. (I'm thinkin sisters and virus.)[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:25, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline''' Please people. It was a phrase that appeared on the screen. It's not any sort of Deleted! cousin. --'''[[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]]''' 23:22, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Allready voted, just a comment''' I think how it is put on [[Cell Phone]] is best.

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every
three seconds. This is one of them," is a parody of public service
announcements, which have similar lines (such as, "In the United States
alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email
every three seconds" is a reference to public service announcements
like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor
every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===

====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could it possibly be because Homestar has no nose? There is no instance of him ever smelling anything, and it's obviously not visible. However, it is particlularly clear that 1-up has a nose, especially from this cartoon. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is
programmed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[best thing]]===

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Redux====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This sounds like exactly the sort of thing TGS would reference. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:03, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Accept?''' Was he ever called "Mr. Drummond"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh yes. Mr. Drummond didn't officially adopt the boys until mid-second season, at which point they started calling him Dad. Until then, they called him Mr. Drummond or "Mr. D". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just when i sorta regained confidence in non-speculating Fun Facts. There is no notable similarity in this. Its a comic gag, not a reference. Even if it might be reference, we do not have enough proof to validate it as a "fact". In response to Jay, I don't think this will be another Change of Pace, if only because this cartoon did not come out one day after Waterboy. If that had happened it might be impossible to deflect this "fun" "reference." -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. Its true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[privileges]]===

====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' What does this have do with "privileges"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===

====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deline''' Who knows, who cares? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Liekand's magic pockets====
Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.

*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== General ==

===="Crapfully yours" a running gag?====
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't even need to see the article in question to know what a load of crap it is. Its already noted in the 3 Wishes facts that Strong Bad doesn't like the "crap" signitures. A whole article is overkill. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Yes, it's a running gag, but I don't think there needs to be a whole article about it. Maybe just list it in the running gags section or something. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It is a running gag and deserves its own page, though i agree the one that Jay deleted was poorly done. If 11.01 deserves its own page, <s>crafully yours</s> crap in all of its forms does as well --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DELORTED!''' Crapfully yours, no. Crap, maybe. Ya, crap is a running gag. Crapfully yours isn't. That's like saying ''Dear Strong Bad'' is a running gag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:04:46 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Are these really goofs? part 1 */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[boring (really)]]===
====Are these really goofs? part 1====
You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.
*'''Decline.''' Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section.

====Are these really goofs? part 2====
The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.
<div style="color:#555">''This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.''</div>
*'''Decline.''' It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are these really goofs? part 3====
If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Definitely not the hat, though====
One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.
* '''Turbo-decline''' Do I even have to say anything? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 02:08, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Decline''' In fact, I wouldn't even have wasted my time STUFFing it. Real words that have been around for centuries (if not longer) are not references to sitcoms. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Strong decline''' I already deleted it and I stand by this. It's a word. A three letter word. Any more speculation is moot. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:11, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* here's a three letter word that I know... '''DECLINE!!!!!!!!!''' [[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 02:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Or it could be a reference to Skull from the popular web comic PVP who sometimes wears a...nuts to it. This fun fact sucks. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*And prepare to experience the fury of... the '''Decline.''' When Strong Bad says wet, it might be a reference to the [[Theme Song Video]] in which Homestar dives into a pool and gets wet. Of course, it's probably not. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:02, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ain't Never Gonna Accept It Without The Fez On.''' Ummm, decline. It's obviously a [http://www.steelydan.com/lyrroyalscam.html#track5 Steely Dan] reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, no it isn't a "refference." It's not even a reference. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, no, no, no, no. That is not right at all. Making this fact appear on this site is NOT what I had in mind!''' It is a three letter word. Okay? It is not a reference to That 70's Show, just as it is not a reference to Austin Powers. So I say '''DECLINE.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:18, 7 Jun 2005 (EST)
* Here's something: '''SECOND WITH EVERYBODY.''' Although I haven't watched "That 70's Show", this could either be: 1, a coincidence, or, 2 as tomstiff said, another refrence. [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:06, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I was just being facetious about the Steely Dan reference. Sometimes a fez is just a brimless cone-shaped flat-crowned tasseled hat made of red felt worn especially by men in eastern Mediterranean countries. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Decline.''' Possible, but... nah. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Just delete this waste of html now!''' this is just stupid. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:05, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====«Insert hilarious joke here»====
The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====You said doyng again!====
Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
*'''Accept!''' Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'D''' Mmm-hmm. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[old comics]]===
====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.
*I've never heard of Domenico da Comma before - ever - so '''No Comment''' right now. As for Peanuts, while it was reverted by accident, I still think it's valid (his "chicken scratch" could also have been read as apostrophes) so '''Accept.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral to the first part, accept to the second''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I've never heard of the first part, but to the second part, '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:49, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Domenico. '''Accept''' Woodstock -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:30, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline first, accept second.''' This is easy. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:34, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' first, '''second''' second. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:57, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:33, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline first, accept second.''' Incidentally, HRWiki is the first result on Google for "Domenico da Comma," and snopes doesn't list the invention of the comma as an urban legend. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:46, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:10, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' on the comma for reasons stated above, '''accept''' Woodstock. Domenico de Comma, does this guy think we're idiots?[[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Why are we still discussing the second part? Put the Woodstock reference in! —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[secret recipes]] ===

====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

*Now the first one is an obvious '''Accept,''' because the Secret deodorant ads are commonly known and widely quoted. The second one I have to '''Decline,''' because I don't think that "tasty enough for a king" is close to "flavour fit for a King." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I've kind of wondered about the purpose of the '''Second''' part of that fact as well... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:34, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' First fact accept, second decline, same reasons. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:38, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:49, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
====Angled?====
The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

*'''So I'm gonna hafta DECLI- Meh!''' Come on fun fact, get off the page. Fact, fact! Whoa, I caught a BIG fact!! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Today is all right for decline!''' I'm really reaching with these now, aren't I? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Diggity...diggity...DECLINE.''' There's no proof here. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 05:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondaded'''. What's the use anywho? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:17 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Decline.''' Just delete bad fun facts. There's no need to STUFF them. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* MY MOTHER SAYS IM SPECAIL!!!...I mean '''DECLINE'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Gosh, you mean they re-use different areas from Free Country USA?! '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline that crap.''' Flash cartoons don't have angles. They are two-dimensional. -- [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:34, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Error?====

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only is it speculation, but it's factually inaccurate - prepositions should NEVER be capitalized in titles and slogans unless they are the first word (I've heard that you're always supposed to capitalize final words too, but I can't think of a case where an article, preposition, or conjunction - the three types of words left non-capitalized - would ever come up there.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
***Because it's a commonly used turn of phrase?
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Please vote in a fashion that would give us the impression that your IQ surpasses your shoe size. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:15, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Seconding a Decline pun''' It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Second. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Like I don't get two jillion of these Fun Facts every two jillion '''Second'''s! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:27, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Way too much of a stretch. Seriously. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 22:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second''' --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** '''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!''' 'Nuff said. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM EDT June 5 2005.
*'''I'll let you decline... er... decide''' OMG STRONG BAD SAYS "THE" IN THIS E-MAIL WHICH IS A REFERENCE TO HOMESTAR SAYING "PAMCAKES" OMG OMG. [[User:SP|SP]]
**'''Second,''' if that's possible. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:35, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Uhh...um..yeah, Imma gonna give this 1 a '''SUPER DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Tonight equals declining.''' DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH. [[User:SP|SP]]

===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Senor Shrub====
The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].

*Yes, it is. '''Accept''' - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:33, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Accept.''' My thoughts exactly, Tony. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:34, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Accept'd.''' Yep - same shrub alright. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:43, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Ah, a good fun fact for once. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''You'll save like an ACCEPT, or my name ain't Cheatachu72!''' Yeah, sure. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 23:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Go for it. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. Just get rid of the "In Senorial Day" bit at the start when it's added to the page. {{User:phlip/sig}} 05:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded''' because I have seen it firsthanded. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:19 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Weak accept''' Fairly obvious to me but I guess other peoples might not get the referance right away. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**I didnt get it the first time I watched it so... --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:36, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Old Gron Sad voice?====
Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
*'''Decline.''' I didn't really hear a difference... or find it that interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Although I noticed this, it's not worth mentioning. In fact I've noticed that Strong Sad's voice has changed quite a bit lately. Probably because he's becoming less of a staticly depressed character and one with more personality. I'm rambling though so, um yeah, decline. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It still sounds like Strong Sad, both times. I hear a difference but it doesn't really translate to 'old' and 'new'. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 23:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ow! Somebody hit me on the DECLINE!''' No. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline''' I don't hear it, but maybe its just me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline,''' but I love you anyway. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' It reminds me more of Kerropi or whatever that frog thing from Hello Kitty is called... but that's also just speculation, so... yeah. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It reminds me of a fake frog costume. I dont think there are any references in it at all. --- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*****'''Second With Modification''': Should read "The reference is taken - loosely - from the Disney cartoon series ''Kim Possible'', in which one of the villians is named Señor Señor, Senior." [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:36 PM EDT June 6 2005.
****** I, uh, hope you're talking about my Fun Fact title and not the Fact itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
******* It's the fact, Jack! [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 7:48 PM EDT JUne 6 2005.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 16:19, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This seems like a totally uninteresting fact to me personally, but it's true and enough people think otherwise for it to be worth including. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't know about you guys, but I personally love this fact. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't see what's so fun about this particular fact, if indeed that's what it is.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It could be a reference, but just as easily it could be something that Strong Sad would say. —[[User:Shawn81|Shawn81]] 15:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** Guess again. There IS no such noun as "lurk." Verb, perhaps, but that's not how SS is using it. And SS isn't SB or SC (known for their malaprops.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Okay then, name one time before Garage Sale where TBC said lurk and not in reference to Strong Sad. And the above votes are right: Lurk as used in the egg doesn't make any sense. Just say the following sentance out loud: I'm going out for a lurk. Why use lurk when "walk" or "amble" or any similiar word would have worked? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Going against the flow here, but it seems to me that the title "lurker" as used in [[garage sale]] refers specifically to behavior in garage sales, and is not something that can be done alone at night. It's the same word, but not every repetition of a word is a reference. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't really see this as a reference, but sadly your arguements have convinced me. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That was in the context of a garage sale; I don't think the simple occurence of the same word indicates a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Segundo''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:37, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Frolic or Bet?====
When Senor Cardgage says "------ around the campfire, children", you can't tell if he's saying "gambol", which means frolicking or playing, or "gamble", which means betting (obviously). I'm leaning more toward "gambol", but please, tell me what you think. The transcript says "gamble", but I think "gambol" is more Senor Cardgage.

How bout phrasing this in a way so that deleting and accepting is possible? My suggestion:

"Senor Cardgage: Gambol around the campfire, children"

*'''Accept'''. I think gambol makes more cardgage sense, as he often uses antiquated words in weird context. Gamble is just random. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' {{User:phlip/sig}} 02:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, right. All of SC's malaprops are "antiquated" words that aren't just random. Like "left" ("left name"), "lawn" ("home lawn"), "cancel" (part of "free canceltation"), "denominator/wintergreen" (two options for what Cardgage can call himself in [[kind of cool]] - these are so random, I have no idea WHAT he's really trying to say!), and maybe some others I missed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Cardgage uses words that don't have specific meanings. So I don't think this should be an issue of definition, but rather enunciation. And it sounds to me like he is pronouncing it with an "ol". So '''accept''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** Editing previous vote due to misreading: There is ''no difference'' between the proper pronunciations of "gamble" and "gambol" and it doesn't sounds to me like Cardgage is messing with the pronunciation to encourage one word over the other. So pronunciation isn't the clue we need. Neither is really the obvious word ("gather") and both are verbs so meaning is out. Only difference between the two words left is spelling - and "gamble" is by far the more common word. So I vote '''Gamble.''' But as long as it doesn't keep getting shifted back and forth and back and forth, I won't care too much. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*To quote the KOC transcript: "I'd say some cool phrase that's almost one word and not quite another." To me, it sounds like he is pronouncing it like "gambowl". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Three things here:''' First, this isn't a fun fact; it doesn't belong on this page. This discussion should be moved to the relevant [[Talk:Senorial Day|talk page]]. Second, the whole phrase is ambiguous enough that, regardless of what we decide to put in the main text, a footnote with the other spelling should be put at the bottom of the transcript, [[Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon#Footnotes|like we did here]] in "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon". Third, I think it's "gamble". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Gamble.''' Yes, "gambol" makes sense. That's exactly the reason why I'm voting for "gamble". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*"Excardon me" is a mixture between "excuse me" and "pardon me" so maybe "gamble" is a mixture between "gather" and "assemble" --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Wow, good point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second NoSmorking''' Wow! I seriously never thought of that! You rock! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I am very impressed. That is probably it. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**C'mon. Y'all are tryin' *way* too hard to make sense out of the non-sensical! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is ridiculous.''' Everything is wild speculation! It doesn't matter anyway, it's nonsense! I'd say stick to the more common word ("gamble") and leave it at that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:25, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Just a '''second.''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINE''' It sounds absolutely NOTHING like the song or at least very little. The only reason they're similiar is becasue they're both rhythm guitar. Case closed.
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of songs it could be referencing. Unless the line or section of the toon in question is very obviously referring to something, it seems too conjectural to claim it as a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Anonymous, GET OVER YOURSELF please. '''Decline, belindas''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 13:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Can you say, "uh-DECLINE"?''' Who cares what song it sounds a little like? Resemblance doesn't equal reference. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''No it looks more like a cold pill [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''secondation''' Which is exactly why I (feebly) created the [[Pills]] Inside jokes page. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing

====The Life Saving Turtle====
The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].

*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''AN ACTUAL ACCEPT.''' I checked, and it's definitely the one from the H*T, not "the show." And the "TBC reuse stuff all the time" argument doesn't work here because it's virus stuff, and one of the main things with the virus stuff is that they use a lot of old stuff. Should we get rid of the "With Marzipan's radish we're gonna win the competition" quote from the [[virus]] e-mail? [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 22:31, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Second (the decline).''' If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Unexpected guests? ====

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Accept''' - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why is it that using the same word means it's a reference to another toon where that word is used? That does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second,''' except for the part about Chewbacca.

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Yeah. It does.
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What with the angry mothers, and the declining in the town square for all to see...''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:52, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a
"DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''weak accept''' Because, when we think of deleted, we usually think of Strong Bad saying aloud "deleted," and DELETED appearing on the screen. Except here, he said "do over" and the screen displayed "DO OVER!" Every time the screen on any computer has said deleted, Strong Bad has said it. But, it doesn't always do what he tells it to. (I'm thinkin sisters and virus.)[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:25, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline''' Please people. It was a phrase that appeared on the screen. It's not any sort of Deleted! cousin. --'''[[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]]''' 23:22, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Allready voted, just a comment''' I think how it is put on [[Cell Phone]] is best.

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every
three seconds. This is one of them," is a parody of public service
announcements, which have similar lines (such as, "In the United States
alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email
every three seconds" is a reference to public service announcements
like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor
every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===

====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could it possibly be because Homestar has no nose? There is no instance of him ever smelling anything, and it's obviously not visible. However, it is particlularly clear that 1-up has a nose, especially from this cartoon. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is
programmed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[best thing]]===

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Redux====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This sounds like exactly the sort of thing TGS would reference. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:03, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Accept?''' Was he ever called "Mr. Drummond"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh yes. Mr. Drummond didn't officially adopt the boys until mid-second season, at which point they started calling him Dad. Until then, they called him Mr. Drummond or "Mr. D". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just when i sorta regained confidence in non-speculating Fun Facts. There is no notable similarity in this. Its a comic gag, not a reference. Even if it might be reference, we do not have enough proof to validate it as a "fact". In response to Jay, I don't think this will be another Change of Pace, if only because this cartoon did not come out one day after Waterboy. If that had happened it might be impossible to deflect this "fun" "reference." -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. Its true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[privileges]]===

====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' What does this have do with "privileges"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===

====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deline''' Who knows, who cares? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Liekand's magic pockets====
Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.

*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== General ==

===="Crapfully yours" a running gag?====
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't even need to see the article in question to know what a load of crap it is. Its already noted in the 3 Wishes facts that Strong Bad doesn't like the "crap" signitures. A whole article is overkill. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Yes, it's a running gag, but I don't think there needs to be a whole article about it. Maybe just list it in the running gags section or something. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It is a running gag and deserves its own page, though i agree the one that Jay deleted was poorly done. If 11.01 deserves its own page, <s>crafully yours</s> crap in all of its forms does as well --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DELORTED!''' Crapfully yours, no. Crap, maybe. Ya, crap is a running gag. Crapfully yours isn't. That's like saying ''Dear Strong Bad'' is a running gag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

boring (really)

SBEmail22 — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:53:13 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Strong Bad's list of words */

[[Image:sbemail131.png|thumb|Staring at a wall helps boredom.]]

'''Strong Bad Email #131'''

We learn how boring [[Free Country, USA]] really can be. Bubs counts discount bricks.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The King of Town}} (Easter Egg), {{Film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The Poopsmith}} (Easter egg), [[Pom Pom's girls]] (Easter Egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Stick]], [[King of Town's Castle]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' June 06, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 4:44

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rapping}'' E-mail theme song! 1-2-3! A da-da-checka e-mail wit' me, SB, y'all! ''{loads the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: bored...</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
Does it ever get boring where you live? Right now I am 
bored out of my mind. 
 
With lots of crap, 
Callie, Lake Jackson, TX
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "Strobah" in place of "Strongbad," "groan" in place of "crap," and pronounces "TX" as "Tejas".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So, you're bored out of your mind, eh? Well, you've come to the right place. Let's see what I...can do...about...that. ''{really draws "that" out, like "thaaaaaahhht"}''

''{Strong Bad exits stage left, and the screen zooms out on the Lappy. It then shows Bubs' face from very close up, and zooms out to show Bubs looking at the side of his concession stand while Strong Bad joins him. All the dialogue until Strong Sad's line is said at an exaggeratedly slow pace.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bubs! What craziness...is going on... over here?

''{short pause}''

'''BUBS:''' Oh! Strong Bad! ''{Strong Bad begins to slowly look towards Bubs}'' You startled me! I was just counting the bricks on this side of the building! I'm up to two hundred forty-eight!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Two hundred and forty-eight! That's just a little less than two fifty!

'''BUBS:''' Yep! I remember learning that in school!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, take care... Bubs. I'm gonna take real, ''{camera zooms in on Strong Bad's mouth}'' real ''{camera moves back}'' tiny steps on over to The Stick. ''{exits stage right — very slowly}''

''{another short pause}''

'''BUBS:''' Be's careful!

''{The screen zooms out on Bubs; Strong Bad, still walking in tiny steps, approaches Homestar Runner standing by the Stick. Homestar isn't blinking, and his mouth is open.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What are you... um... doing?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm practicing... closing... my eyes. I'm not very... good... at it... though.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I see.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' More like... ''I'' see. [[#Footnote|*]]

''{Close up on Homestar closing his eyes slowly, eventually closing them completely}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh! There we go! Now I see what all the fuss is about! ''{opens eyes}'' Oops, I lost it. ''{Bubs enters from stage left}''

'''BUBS:''' Two hundred and ninety six!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wow! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{simultaneously}'' What? 

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That's just a little less... than three hundred!

'''ALL:''' I remember learning that in school!

''{Strong Sad suddenly jumps in under the influence of caffeine, interrupting "school" as flames burst on the sides of the screen for a split second.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Wah-wah-wah-wait! You guys! You guys! I struck gold on the alien spaceship—I think it gave me super powers, there are wood-davers everywhere!

''{record scratching noise cuts back to Strong Bad at the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So, Jackson, as you can plainly see, things move a mile a minute 'round her'. Except for that Strong Sad. That guy's a real bore. And quite a fan of Danish physicist Niels Bohr. The most aptly named of all Danish physicists. So, I hope I bored you back into your mind. And I don't mean 'bored into your mind' like REEER! Pssh pssh! ''{typed as "(awesome drilling some brains sound)"}''. That's gross. But if you're still bored, sit back, relax, and prepare to experience the fury of... me naming all the three letter words I can think of. ''{Strong Bad makes an imitation of a walkie-talkie click, then clears his throat and brings up new screen}'' Cat. The. Lob. Irk. Try. Wet. Cod. For. Her. Ebb. Egg. Goo. Elk. Ilk. ''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}'' Dog. Fat. Pat. Spy. Get. Sat. Sit. ''{screen dims}'' Wow. Man. ''{After a few seconds, the screen comes back up with many more words typed as Strong Bad continues to list words}'' Huh. Not. Sty. Eye. Pie. Tug. Gut. Gun. Sap. Asp. Pus. Job -

'''COACH Z:''' ''{record scratching noise, then from offscreen:}'' I gotta stop you there, Strong Bad. I'm pretty sure "jorb" is a four letters word.

=== Footnote ===
*''This line could be "More like I see," (meaning that H*R can see because he can't shut his eyes) or "More like 'eye' see," (a simple pun).''

==Easter Eggs==
* Click on "[[Wikipedia:Niels Bohr|Niels Bohr]]" to see a signed picture of him addressed to Strong Sad.
** The autograph reads<blockquote>yo yo, S² you're not BOHRN yet! ha ha!! —Nilly `16</blockquote>
* At the end, click on "try, wet, cod" for an image of a fish, with the text "Try wet cod!!! (Please, oh, please)".
* Click on "err" for a comic book drawing of Strong Bad and The Cheat.
** The comic book drawing is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Groo the Wanderer|Groo the Wanderer]], written and drawn by Sergio Aragonés.
* Click on "old, bag" to see a short scene at a party thrown by the King of Town.
*: ''{Pom Pom, the King of Town, the Poopsmith, and Homsar are standing in the King's castle with two of Pom Pom's girls. Two bags marked "[[The_King_Of_Town%27s_Food|PORK RAMBLINS]]" and "[[The_King_Of_Town%27s_Food|PORK SNAGGLINS]]" can be seen in the foreground. "It's the Weekend" (from [[montage]]) can be heard in the background, as the party guests make a poor and somewhat unintelligible attempt at singing along.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Strong Bad's list of words===
<blockquote class="lappy email" style="width:525px">
] Cat, the, lob, irk, try, wet, cod, for, her, ebb, egg, goo, 
elk, ilk, dog, fat, pat, spy, get, sat, sit, wow, man, see, dew 
jib, dub, orb, pip, nob, sag, use, vat, rot, tap, wee, saw, hub, 
dag, cot, wok, biz, was, won, all, awl, owl, pug, lug, con, err, 
hug, sad, mop, pan, nip, sbu, jut, lam, sod, too, you, old, bag, 
cup, bad, hut, rom, rip, one, rue, pal, jig, sup, fez, man, tad, 
log, tis, pod, new, vex, tar, wig, yok, fix, yon, use, hag, fad, 
huh, not, sty, eye, pie, tug, gut, gun, sap, asp, pus, job 
</blockquote>
* Note that "man" is listed twice (On the second line, third word from the right, and on the sixth line, second word from the right).
* The word "use" is also listed twice (On the third line, seventh word from the left, and on the seventh line, third word from the right).
* There is no comma after "dew" (last word on second line).

===Inside References===
*One of the three letter words Strong Bad types is "sbu", which is a reference to [[lunch special]].
*Strong Bad says "Prepare to experience the fury of... me naming all the three letter words I can think of." in his tour guide voice from [[theme park]], from which the first half of said line was taken. He ends with the sound of the microphone clicking off, also heard in theme park.
*Strong Sad's hyperactivity, twitching eye and mention of [[wood-davers]] are references to [[caffeine]].
**This scene also re-uses the Deathly Pallor music from [[radio]].
*Coach Z's comment on "jorb" being a four-letter word is a reference to [[A Jorb Well Done]].
**"A four letters word" may be a nod to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]], in which said phrase was used by Homestar.
*The way Strong Bad runs when taking "real tiny steps" is similar to how his past self ran the Ten-Step Footrace in [[flashback]].
*The machine drilling sound is similar to that of the sun-buzzsaw in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].



===Real World References===
*Strong Sad's claim that he was given super powers after being taken aboard an alien spaceship is a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Greatest American Hero|The Greatest American Hero]].


==External Links==
*[[HR:sbemail131.html|watch "boring (really)"]]
*[[HR:sbemail131.swf|view the Flash file for "boring (really)"]]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=3628 forum thread re: "boring (really)"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}

HRWiki:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:24:59 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Definitely not the hat, though */

__NOTOC__
<div id="shortcut" style="border: 1px dashed blue; margin: 0em 1em 0em 1em; text-align: center; padding:5px; float: right; clear: both;">
Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[boring (really)]]===
====Definitely not the hat, though====
One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That 70's Show.
* '''Turbo-decline''' Do I even have to say anything? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 02:08, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Decline''' In fact, I wouldn't even have wasted my time STUFFing it. Real words that have been around for centuries (if not longer) are not references to sitcoms. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Strong decline''' I already deleted it and I stand by this. It's a word. A three letter word. Any more speculation is moot. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:11, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* here's a three letter word that I know... '''DECLINE!!!!!!!!!''' [[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 02:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Or it could be a reference to Skull from the popular web comic PVP who sometimes wears a...nuts to it. This fun fact sucks. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*And prepare to experience the fury of... the '''Decline.''' When Strong Bad says wet, it might be a reference to the [[Theme Song Video]] in which Homestar dives into a pool and gets wet. Of course, it's probably not. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:02, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I Don't Accept It Without My Fez On.''' Ummm, decline. It's obviously a Steely Dan reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, no it isn't a "refference." It's not even a reference. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, no, no, no, no. That is not right at all. Making this fact appear on this site is NOT what I had in mind!''' It is a three letter word. Okay? It is not a reference to That 70's Show, just as it is not a reference to Austin Powers. So I say '''DECLINE.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:18, 7 Jun 2005 (EST)

====«Insert hilarious joke here»====
The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''And fwom now on, people name Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====You said doyng again!====
Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[old comics]]===
====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.
*I've never heard of Domenico da Comma before - ever - so '''No Comment''' right now. As for Peanuts, while it was reverted by accident, I still think it's valid (his "chicken scratch" could also have been read as apostrophes) so '''Accept.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral to the first part, accept to the second''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I've never heard of the first part, but to the second part, '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:49, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Domenico. '''Accept''' Woodstock -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:30, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline first, accept second.''' This is easy. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:34, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline first, accept second.''' Incidentally, HRWiki is the first result on Google for "Domenico da Comma," and snopes doesn't list the invention of the comma as an urban legend. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:46, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[secret recipes]] ===

====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

*Now the first one is an obvious '''Accept,''' because the Secret deodorant ads are commonly known and widely quoted. The second one I have to '''Decline,''' because I don't think that "tasty enough for a king" is close to "flavour fit for a King." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I've kind of wondered about the purpose of the '''Second''' part of that fact as well... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:34, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' First fact accept, second decline, same reasons. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:38, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
====Angled?====
The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

*'''So I'm gonna hafta DECLI- Meh!''' Come on fun fact, get off the page. Fact, fact! Whoa, I caught a BIG fact!! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Today is all right for decline!''' I'm really reaching with these now, aren't I? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Diggity...diggity...DECLINE.''' There's no proof here. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 05:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondaded'''. What's the use anywho? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:17 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Decline.''' Just delete bad fun facts. There's no need to STUFF them. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* MY MOTHER SAYS IM SPECAIL!!!...I mean '''DECLINE'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Gosh, you mean they re-use different areas from Free Country USA?! '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Error?====

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only is it speculation, but it's factually inaccurate - prepositions should NEVER be capitalized in titles and slogans unless they are the first word (I've heard that you're always supposed to capitalize final words too, but I can't think of a case where an article, preposition, or conjunction - the three types of words left non-capitalized - would ever come up there.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
***Because it's a commonly used turn of phrase?
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Please vote in a fashion that would give us the impression that your IQ surpasses your shoe size. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:15, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Seconding a Decline pun''' It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Second. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Like I don't get two jillion of these Fun Facts every two jillion '''Second'''s! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:27, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Way too much of a stretch. Seriously. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 22:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second''' --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** '''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!''' 'Nuff said. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM EDT June 5 2005.
*'''I'll let you decline... er... decide''' OMG STRONG BAD SAYS "THE" IN THIS E-MAIL WHICH IS A REFERENCE TO HOMESTAR SAYING "PAMCAKES" OMG OMG. [[User:SP|SP]]
* Uhh...um..yeah, Imma gonna give this 1 a '''SUPER DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Tonight equals declining.''' DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH. [[User:SP|SP]]

===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Senor Shrub====
The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].

*Yes, it is. '''Accept''' - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:33, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Accept.''' My thoughts exactly, Tony. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:34, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Accept'd.''' Yep - same shrub alright. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:43, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Ah, a good fun fact for once. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''You'll save like an ACCEPT, or my name ain't Cheatachu72!''' Yeah, sure. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 23:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Go for it. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. Just get rid of the "In Senorial Day" bit at the start when it's added to the page. {{User:phlip/sig}} 05:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded''' because I have seen it firsthanded. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:19 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Weak accept''' Fairly obvious to me but I guess other peoples might not get the referance right away. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**I didnt get it the first time I watched it so... --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:36, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Old Gron Sad voice?====
Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
*'''Decline.''' I didn't really hear a difference... or find it that interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Although I noticed this, it's not worth mentioning. In fact I've noticed that Strong Sad's voice has changed quite a bit lately. Probably because he's becoming less of a staticly depressed character and one with more personality. I'm rambling though so, um yeah, decline. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It still sounds like Strong Sad, both times. I hear a difference but it doesn't really translate to 'old' and 'new'. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 23:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ow! Somebody hit me on the DECLINE!''' No. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline''' I don't hear it, but maybe its just me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline,''' but I love you anyway. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' It reminds me more of Kerropi or whatever that frog thing from Hello Kitty is called... but that's also just speculation, so... yeah. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It reminds me of a fake frog costume. I dont think there are any references in it at all. --- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*****'''Second With Modification''': Should read "The reference is taken - loosely - from the Disney cartoon series ''Kim Possible'', in which one of the villians is named Señor Señor, Senior." [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:36 PM EDT June 6 2005.
****** I, uh, hope you're talking about my Fun Fact title and not the Fact itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
******* It's the fact, Jack! [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 7:48 PM EDT JUne 6 2005.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This seems like a totally uninteresting fact to me personally, but it's true and enough people think otherwise for it to be worth including. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't know about you guys, but I personally love this fact. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't see what's so fun about this particular fact, if indeed that's what it is.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** Guess again. There IS no such noun as "lurk." Verb, perhaps, but that's not how SS is using it. And SS isn't SB or SC (known for their malaprops.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Okay then, name one time before Garage Sale where TBC said lurk and not in reference to Strong Sad. And the above votes are right: Lurk as used in the egg doesn't make any sense. Just say the following sentance out loud: I'm going out for a lurk. Why use lurk when "walk" or "amble" or any similiar word would have worked? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Going against the flow here, but it seems to me that the title "lurker" as used in [[garage sale]] refers specifically to behavior in garage sales, and is not something that can be done alone at night. It's the same word, but not every repetition of a word is a reference. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't really see this as a reference, but sadly your arguements have convinced me. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That was in the context of a garage sale; I don't think the simple occurence of the same word indicates a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Frolic or Bet?====
When Senor Cardgage says "------ around the campfire, children", you can't tell if he's saying "gambol", which means frolicking or playing, or "gamble", which means betting (obviously). I'm leaning more toward "gambol", but please, tell me what you think. The transcript says "gamble", but I think "gambol" is more Senor Cardgage.

How bout phrasing this in a way so that deleting and accepting is possible? My suggestion:

"Senor Cardgage: Gambol around the campfire, children"

*'''Accept'''. I think gambol makes more cardgage sense, as he often uses antiquated words in weird context. Gamble is just random. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' {{User:phlip/sig}} 02:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, right. All of SC's malaprops are "antiquated" words that aren't just random. Like "left" ("left name"), "lawn" ("home lawn"), "cancel" (part of "free canceltation"), "denominator/wintergreen" (two options for what Cardgage can call himself in [[kind of cool]] - these are so random, I have no idea WHAT he's really trying to say!), and maybe some others I missed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Cardgage uses words that don't have specific meanings. So I don't think this should be an issue of definition, but rather enunciation. And it sounds to me like he is pronouncing it with an "ol". So '''accept''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** Editing previous vote due to misreading: There is ''no difference'' between the proper pronunciations of "gamble" and "gambol" and it doesn't sounds to me like Cardgage is messing with the pronunciation to encourage one word over the other. So pronunciation isn't the clue we need. Neither is really the obvious word ("gather") and both are verbs so meaning is out. Only difference between the two words left is spelling - and "gamble" is by far the more common word. So I vote '''Gamble.''' But as long as it doesn't keep getting shifted back and forth and back and forth, I won't care too much. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*To quote the KOC transcript: "I'd say some cool phrase that's almost one word and not quite another." To me, it sounds like he is pronouncing it like "gambowl". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Three things here:''' First, this isn't a fun fact; it doesn't belong on this page. This discussion should be moved to the relevant [[Talk:Senorial Day|talk page]]. Second, the whole phrase is ambiguous enough that, regardless of what we decide to put in the main text, a footnote with the other spelling should be put at the bottom of the transcript, [[Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon#Footnotes|like we did here]] in "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon". Third, I think it's "gamble". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Gamble.''' Yes, "gambol" makes sense. That's exactly the reason why I'm voting for "gamble". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*"Excardon me" is a mixture between "excuse me" and "pardon me" so maybe "gamble" is a mixture between "gather" and "assemble" --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Wow, good point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second NoSmorking''' Wow! I seriously never thought of that! You rock! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I am very impressed. That is probably it. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**C'mon. Y'all are tryin' *way* too hard to make sense out of the non-sensical! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINE''' It sounds absolutely NOTHING like the song or at least very little. The only reason they're similiar is becasue they're both rhythm guitar. Case closed.
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of songs it could be referencing. Unless the line or section of the toon in question is very obviously referring to something, it seems too conjectural to claim it as a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Anonymous, GET OVER YOURSELF please. '''Decline, belindas''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 13:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''No it looks more like a cold pill [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''secondation''' Which is exactly why I (feebly) created the [[Pills]] Inside jokes page. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing

====The Life Saving Turtle====
The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].

*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''AN ACTUAL ACCEPT.''' I checked, and it's definitely the one from the H*T, not "the show." And the "TBC reuse stuff all the time" argument doesn't work here because it's virus stuff, and one of the main things with the virus stuff is that they use a lot of old stuff. Should we get rid of the "With Marzipan's radish we're gonna win the competition" quote from the [[virus]] e-mail? [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 22:31, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Second (the decline).''' If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why is it that using the same word means it's a reference to another toon where that word is used? That does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a
"DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''weak accept''' Because, when we think of deleted, we usually think of Strong Bad saying aloud "deleted," and DELETED appearing on the screen. Except here, he said "do over" and the screen displayed "DO OVER!" Every time the screen on any computer has said deleted, Strong Bad has said it. But, it doesn't always do what he tells it to. (I'm thinkin sisters and virus.)[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:25, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline''' Please people. It was a phrase that appeared on the screen. It's not any sort of Deleted! cousin. --'''[[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]]''' 23:22, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Allready voted, just a comment''' I think how it is put on [[Cell Phone]] is best.

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every
three seconds. This is one of them," is a parody of public service
announcements, which have similar lines (such as, "In the United States
alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email
every three seconds" is a reference to public service announcements
like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor
every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===

====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could it possibly be because Homestar has no nose? There is no instance of him ever smelling anything, and it's obviously not visible. However, it is particlularly clear that 1-up has a nose, especially from this cartoon. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is
programmed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[best thing]]===

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Redux====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This sounds like exactly the sort of thing TGS would reference. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:03, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Accept?''' Was he ever called "Mr. Drummond"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh yes. Mr. Drummond didn't officially adopt the boys until mid-second season, at which point they started calling him Dad. Until then, they called him Mr. Drummond or "Mr. D". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just when i sorta regained confidence in non-speculating Fun Facts. There is no notable similarity in this. Its a comic gag, not a reference. Even if it might be reference, we do not have enough proof to validate it as a "fact". In response to Jay, I don't think this will be another Change of Pace, if only because this cartoon did not come out one day after Waterboy. If that had happened it might be impossible to deflect this "fun" "reference." -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. Its true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[privileges]]===

====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' What does this have do with "privileges"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===

====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deline''' Who knows, who cares? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== General ==

===="Crapfully yours" a running gag?====
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't even need to see the article in question to know what a load of crap it is. Its already noted in the 3 Wishes facts that Strong Bad doesn't like the "crap" signitures. A whole article is overkill. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Yes, it's a running gag, but I don't think there needs to be a whole article about it. Maybe just list it in the running gags section or something. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It is a running gag and deserves its own page, though i agree the one that Jay deleted was poorly done. If 11.01 deserves its own page, <s>crafully yours</s> crap in all of its forms does as well --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DELORTED!''' Crapfully yours, no. Crap, maybe. Ya, crap is a running gag. Crapfully yours isn't. That's like saying ''Dear Strong Bad'' is a running gag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

SBEmail22 — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:24:30 GMT

SBEmail22: /* Definitely not the hat, though */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[boring (really)]]===
====Definitely not the hat, though====
One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That 70's Show.
* '''Turbo-decline''' Do I even have to say anything? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 02:08, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Decline''' In fact, I wouldn't even have wasted my time STUFFing it. Real words that have been around for centuries (if not longer) are not references to sitcoms. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Strong decline''' I already deleted it and I stand by this. It's a word. A three letter word. Any more speculation is moot. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:11, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* here's a three letter word that I know... '''DECLINE!!!!!!!!!''' [[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 02:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Or it could be a reference to Skull from the popular web comic PVP who sometimes wears a...nuts to it. This fun fact sucks. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*And prepare to experience the fury of... the '''Decline.''' When Strong Bad says wet, it might be a reference to the [[Theme Song Video]] in which Homestar dives into a pool and gets wet. Of course, it's probably not. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:02, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I Don't Accept It Without My Fez On.''' Ummm, decline. It's obviously a Steely Dan reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, no it isn't a "refference." It's not even a reference. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, no, no, no, no. That is not right at all. Making this fact appear on this site is NOT what I had in mind!''' It is a three letter word. Okay? It is not a reference to That 70's Show, just as it is not a reference to Austin Powers. So I say '''DECLINE.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmaill22]] 12:18, 7 Jun 2005 (EST)

====«Insert hilarious joke here»====
The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''And fwom now on, people name Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====You said doyng again!====
Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[old comics]]===
====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.
*I've never heard of Domenico da Comma before - ever - so '''No Comment''' right now. As for Peanuts, while it was reverted by accident, I still think it's valid (his "chicken scratch" could also have been read as apostrophes) so '''Accept.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral to the first part, accept to the second''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I've never heard of the first part, but to the second part, '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:49, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Domenico. '''Accept''' Woodstock -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:30, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline first, accept second.''' This is easy. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:34, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline first, accept second.''' Incidentally, HRWiki is the first result on Google for "Domenico da Comma," and snopes doesn't list the invention of the comma as an urban legend. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:46, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[secret recipes]] ===

====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

*Now the first one is an obvious '''Accept,''' because the Secret deodorant ads are commonly known and widely quoted. The second one I have to '''Decline,''' because I don't think that "tasty enough for a king" is close to "flavour fit for a King." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I've kind of wondered about the purpose of the '''Second''' part of that fact as well... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:34, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' First fact accept, second decline, same reasons. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:38, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
====Angled?====
The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

*'''So I'm gonna hafta DECLI- Meh!''' Come on fun fact, get off the page. Fact, fact! Whoa, I caught a BIG fact!! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Today is all right for decline!''' I'm really reaching with these now, aren't I? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Diggity...diggity...DECLINE.''' There's no proof here. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 05:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondaded'''. What's the use anywho? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:17 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Decline.''' Just delete bad fun facts. There's no need to STUFF them. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* MY MOTHER SAYS IM SPECAIL!!!...I mean '''DECLINE'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Gosh, you mean they re-use different areas from Free Country USA?! '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Error?====

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:02, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only is it speculation, but it's factually inaccurate - prepositions should NEVER be capitalized in titles and slogans unless they are the first word (I've heard that you're always supposed to capitalize final words too, but I can't think of a case where an article, preposition, or conjunction - the three types of words left non-capitalized - would ever come up there.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
***Because it's a commonly used turn of phrase?
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** Please vote in a fashion that would give us the impression that your IQ surpasses your shoe size. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:15, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Seconding a Decline pun''' It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Second. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Like I don't get two jillion of these Fun Facts every two jillion '''Second'''s! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:27, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Way too much of a stretch. Seriously. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 22:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second''' --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** '''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!''' 'Nuff said. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM EDT June 5 2005.
*'''I'll let you decline... er... decide''' OMG STRONG BAD SAYS "THE" IN THIS E-MAIL WHICH IS A REFERENCE TO HOMESTAR SAYING "PAMCAKES" OMG OMG. [[User:SP|SP]]
* Uhh...um..yeah, Imma gonna give this 1 a '''SUPER DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Tonight equals declining.''' DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH. [[User:SP|SP]]

===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Senor Shrub====
The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].

*Yes, it is. '''Accept''' - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:33, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Accept.''' My thoughts exactly, Tony. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:34, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Accept'd.''' Yep - same shrub alright. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:43, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Ah, a good fun fact for once. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''You'll save like an ACCEPT, or my name ain't Cheatachu72!''' Yeah, sure. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 23:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Go for it. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. Just get rid of the "In Senorial Day" bit at the start when it's added to the page. {{User:phlip/sig}} 05:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded''' because I have seen it firsthanded. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 3:19 AM EDT June 6 2005.
*'''Weak accept''' Fairly obvious to me but I guess other peoples might not get the referance right away. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**I didnt get it the first time I watched it so... --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:36, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Old Gron Sad voice?====
Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
*'''Decline.''' I didn't really hear a difference... or find it that interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Although I noticed this, it's not worth mentioning. In fact I've noticed that Strong Sad's voice has changed quite a bit lately. Probably because he's becoming less of a staticly depressed character and one with more personality. I'm rambling though so, um yeah, decline. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It still sounds like Strong Sad, both times. I hear a difference but it doesn't really translate to 'old' and 'new'. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 23:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ow! Somebody hit me on the DECLINE!''' No. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline''' I don't hear it, but maybe its just me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline,''' but I love you anyway. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' It reminds me more of Kerropi or whatever that frog thing from Hello Kitty is called... but that's also just speculation, so... yeah. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It reminds me of a fake frog costume. I dont think there are any references in it at all. --- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*****'''Second With Modification''': Should read "The reference is taken - loosely - from the Disney cartoon series ''Kim Possible'', in which one of the villians is named Señor Señor, Senior." [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:36 PM EDT June 6 2005.
****** I, uh, hope you're talking about my Fun Fact title and not the Fact itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
******* It's the fact, Jack! [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 7:48 PM EDT JUne 6 2005.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This seems like a totally uninteresting fact to me personally, but it's true and enough people think otherwise for it to be worth including. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't know about you guys, but I personally love this fact. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't see what's so fun about this particular fact, if indeed that's what it is.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** Guess again. There IS no such noun as "lurk." Verb, perhaps, but that's not how SS is using it. And SS isn't SB or SC (known for their malaprops.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Okay then, name one time before Garage Sale where TBC said lurk and not in reference to Strong Sad. And the above votes are right: Lurk as used in the egg doesn't make any sense. Just say the following sentance out loud: I'm going out for a lurk. Why use lurk when "walk" or "amble" or any similiar word would have worked? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Going against the flow here, but it seems to me that the title "lurker" as used in [[garage sale]] refers specifically to behavior in garage sales, and is not something that can be done alone at night. It's the same word, but not every repetition of a word is a reference. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I don't really see this as a reference, but sadly your arguements have convinced me. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That was in the context of a garage sale; I don't think the simple occurence of the same word indicates a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Frolic or Bet?====
When Senor Cardgage says "------ around the campfire, children", you can't tell if he's saying "gambol", which means frolicking or playing, or "gamble", which means betting (obviously). I'm leaning more toward "gambol", but please, tell me what you think. The transcript says "gamble", but I think "gambol" is more Senor Cardgage.

How bout phrasing this in a way so that deleting and accepting is possible? My suggestion:

"Senor Cardgage: Gambol around the campfire, children"

*'''Accept'''. I think gambol makes more cardgage sense, as he often uses antiquated words in weird context. Gamble is just random. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' {{User:phlip/sig}} 02:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, right. All of SC's malaprops are "antiquated" words that aren't just random. Like "left" ("left name"), "lawn" ("home lawn"), "cancel" (part of "free canceltation"), "denominator/wintergreen" (two options for what Cardgage can call himself in [[kind of cool]] - these are so random, I have no idea WHAT he's really trying to say!), and maybe some others I missed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Cardgage uses words that don't have specific meanings. So I don't think this should be an issue of definition, but rather enunciation. And it sounds to me like he is pronouncing it with an "ol". So '''accept''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** Editing previous vote due to misreading: There is ''no difference'' between the proper pronunciations of "gamble" and "gambol" and it doesn't sounds to me like Cardgage is messing with the pronunciation to encourage one word over the other. So pronunciation isn't the clue we need. Neither is really the obvious word ("gather") and both are verbs so meaning is out. Only difference between the two words left is spelling - and "gamble" is by far the more common word. So I vote '''Gamble.''' But as long as it doesn't keep getting shifted back and forth and back and forth, I won't care too much. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*To quote the KOC transcript: "I'd say some cool phrase that's almost one word and not quite another." To me, it sounds like he is pronouncing it like "gambowl". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Three things here:''' First, this isn't a fun fact; it doesn't belong on this page. This discussion should be moved to the relevant [[Talk:Senorial Day|talk page]]. Second, the whole phrase is ambiguous enough that, regardless of what we decide to put in the main text, a footnote with the other spelling should be put at the bottom of the transcript, [[Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon#Footnotes|like we did here]] in "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon". Third, I think it's "gamble". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Gamble.''' Yes, "gambol" makes sense. That's exactly the reason why I'm voting for "gamble". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*"Excardon me" is a mixture between "excuse me" and "pardon me" so maybe "gamble" is a mixture between "gather" and "assemble" --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Wow, good point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second NoSmorking''' Wow! I seriously never thought of that! You rock! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I am very impressed. That is probably it. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**C'mon. Y'all are tryin' *way* too hard to make sense out of the non-sensical! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINE''' It sounds absolutely NOTHING like the song or at least very little. The only reason they're similiar is becasue they're both rhythm guitar. Case closed.
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of songs it could be referencing. Unless the line or section of the toon in question is very obviously referring to something, it seems too conjectural to claim it as a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Anonymous, GET OVER YOURSELF please. '''Decline, belindas''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 13:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''No it looks more like a cold pill [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''secondation''' Which is exactly why I (feebly) created the [[Pills]] Inside jokes page. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing

====The Life Saving Turtle====
The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].

*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''AN ACTUAL ACCEPT.''' I checked, and it's definitely the one from the H*T, not "the show." And the "TBC reuse stuff all the time" argument doesn't work here because it's virus stuff, and one of the main things with the virus stuff is that they use a lot of old stuff. Should we get rid of the "With Marzipan's radish we're gonna win the competition" quote from the [[virus]] e-mail? [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 22:31, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Second (the decline).''' If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why is it that using the same word means it's a reference to another toon where that word is used? That does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a
"DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''weak accept''' Because, when we think of deleted, we usually think of Strong Bad saying aloud "deleted," and DELETED appearing on the screen. Except here, he said "do over" and the screen displayed "DO OVER!" Every time the screen on any computer has said deleted, Strong Bad has said it. But, it doesn't always do what he tells it to. (I'm thinkin sisters and virus.)[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:25, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline''' Please people. It was a phrase that appeared on the screen. It's not any sort of Deleted! cousin. --'''[[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]]''' 23:22, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Allready voted, just a comment''' I think how it is put on [[Cell Phone]] is best.

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every
three seconds. This is one of them," is a parody of public service
announcements, which have similar lines (such as, "In the United States
alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email
every three seconds" is a reference to public service announcements
like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor
every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===

====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could it possibly be because Homestar has no nose? There is no instance of him ever smelling anything, and it's obviously not visible. However, it is particlularly clear that 1-up has a nose, especially from this cartoon. [[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is
programmed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[best thing]]===

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Redux====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This sounds like exactly the sort of thing TGS would reference. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:03, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Accept?''' Was he ever called "Mr. Drummond"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh yes. Mr. Drummond didn't officially adopt the boys until mid-second season, at which point they started calling him Dad. Until then, they called him Mr. Drummond or "Mr. D". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just when i sorta regained confidence in non-speculating Fun Facts. There is no notable similarity in this. Its a comic gag, not a reference. Even if it might be reference, we do not have enough proof to validate it as a "fact". In response to Jay, I don't think this will be another Change of Pace, if only because this cartoon did not come out one day after Waterboy. If that had happened it might be impossible to deflect this "fun" "reference." -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. Its true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[privileges]]===

====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' What does this have do with "privileges"? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===

====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deline''' Who knows, who cares? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== General ==

===="Crapfully yours" a running gag?====
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't even need to see the article in question to know what a load of crap it is. Its already noted in the 3 Wishes facts that Strong Bad doesn't like the "crap" signitures. A whole article is overkill. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Yes, it's a running gag, but I don't think there needs to be a whole article about it. Maybe just list it in the running gags section or something. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It is a running gag and deserves its own page, though i agree the one that Jay deleted was poorly done. If 11.01 deserves its own page, <s>crafully yours</s> crap in all of its forms does as well --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DELORTED!''' Crapfully yours, no. Crap, maybe. Ya, crap is a running gag. Crapfully yours isn't. That's like saying ''Dear Strong Bad'' is a running gag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)