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Rogue Leader — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:08:04 GMT

Rogue Leader: /* Hey */

I have made an [[User talk:Rogue Leader/archive|archive recently]]. Check there for old messages. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:05, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Trendy Totebag==
How is he special enough to not be listed as a troll? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 22:40, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

You can't bring this up now. TT was just being a stupid user, and it was a first offense. Me and ''many'' other users are sick of this. As Dot com previously said, pretend that they don't exist, or you will get blocked. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:43, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

and why dont tehy get blocked? you gave them the same warning but they continued to bother me. [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 22:44, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:We have also given you the same warnings, yet you have not been blocked either. TT was being stupid, new user, so that is why he has not been blocked. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:47, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== Trogdor Level Project ==
Wow. Good luck with that. The farthest I ever got to in that was like, 4. Keep on tranglin'.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 02:58, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey thanks! Actually, so far my pictures have been fairly bad, I didn't get a single peasant in the second one and I didn't make the first one, but all the others are good. Thanks again. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:08, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

== Woah. ==
You should be a sysop, even if we no longer need any. You could do a lot with the new privelages. 400 images.........{{User:Seriously/sig}} 16:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks a lot. That is the third time... {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 20:12, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

WHAT?!{{User:Seriously/sig}} 00:28, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:This is the third time that someone said or thought that I was a sysop. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::oh, i thought you meant the third time you had tagged 400 images....that would be scary. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 00:46, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Birthday ==

Happy birthday! {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 21:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Kilroy! I guess I am finally a teenager. I am gonna miss being a preteen. Now I don't. ;). {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 21:48, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Happy late birthday Man.
Thirteen! Yah! Lucky, being old su*ks. (16).

== The rules ==

Hey Rogue, I made that revert because of this rule from the STUFF page: "You may only edit arguments while logged in." Now, I had assumed that editing arguments referred to any edit that placed or changed arguments. But I suppose it could also mean that they can't alter existing ones? I really don't know for sure. Anyway, that was why I did it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:07, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:Well, really, you're not supposed to edit STUFF at all unless you're logged in. This policy only tends to be enforced when someone tries to vote or add a new item, however. I myself am hesitant to remove an argument because I don't want to be seen as limiting speech. But you're right about what the rules state. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:12, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::Ah, OK. Well then, I suppose I won't enforce it that way either. (But you know how we Germans ''[sic]'' are, always sticking to the rules!) :-) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:14, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I really don't look at the STUFF rules, actually. I just know that annonys have added args in the past and weren't reverted, and that annony's can't vote. So, you are probably right. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:21, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== Sysop ==

Hey Rogue. It is my pleasure to announce that you have been given [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysop]] privileges and responsibilities. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask. May you always use your powers for good and for awesome. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:01, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks a lot It's dot com! I will be sure to except just authority. Now that that is out of the way... PARTY!! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:Wow, congratulations! ^-^ May you continue to do great things. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Thanks DorianGray! If you keep on doing what you are doing, you are gonna be next. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:08, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:Good job. I wish I could be one but, I never will. :-( --{{User:The thing/sig}} 00:07, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:Congratulations Rogue, I know you'll do a fine job. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:33, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:Very nice job, Rogue. No wonder I couldn't figure out you that you ''weren't'' a sysop a few months ago. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:36, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::Once again, I want to say thanks a lot to all of you. And Lapper, same thing with DorainGray, if you keep up your good work, you are gonna be the next sysop. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Happy hundreth promotion, Rogue! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:08, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
: Wow. Missed this, and was a little surprised to see Rogue Leader's name on the Block Log page. Congrats, man. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, Rogue Leader, our youngest sysop, next to FireBird. Having that much responsibility in that a young age is something to be envy about. Your image tagging project was one of the most important to the site. Helping us being legaly responsible for our actions could effect the fundamental existence of the wiki. You deserve this promotion. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:20, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:Wait, do you mean that Rogue is younger than FireBird, or vice versa? Because Rogue is younger than FireBird, right? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::I meant that he is almost at the same age as FireBird. I'm not sure which one is younger. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:49, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, Rogue Leader! {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 00:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:Thank you very much everyone! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

::Congratulations, Rogue. I wasn't in on the decision since I was on hiatus, but they did right promoting you. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:59, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Congratulations from me as well! You're administra-awesome! :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:22, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Congradulations!! I knew you'd get that Sysop tag eventually, just a matter of when. Great Jorb!--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 04:24, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

::::: I'm a lil late aren't I? GREAT JOB! {{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 23:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

== Block ==

If a user called Kolgon comes block him. He is a big troll. Here: [http://wiki.videolan.org/index.php/Main_Page], [http://www.ssrc.org/wiki/POSA/index.php?title=Main_Page] (<< If you have the time I could user some help there.), and at editthis.info. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 19:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:If a user called Kolgon actually ''vandalizes'', we will take care of him. But never judge a book by it's cover. Thanks for the heads up though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:04, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:Rogue Leader is out at the moment. In lieu of himself, he has offered this reply: "Get a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Administrators#Stewards|steward]] for your second link." Please note that the link does not refer you to WikiMedia Foundation stewards, but rather what a steward is. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:10, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

===Greetings Rougleader, news from the front===

I posted a thread in the forum and want people to join the discution. Here's the link:[[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=8007|The RPG]]

==Yeltensic==
hey y did u delt my thred yelnestic SUCKS!!!!! -Droifc

Why????????????? he SUCKS!!!!

???????????????????
:I dont care if you like Granola/Yelt or not. It is still a personal attack and will not be tolerated on this wiki. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 04:37, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::i hat him!!! he n his plas on imdb r TROLLS!!!! n they SUCK!!!! he stol my old acount their!! than when he gav it bak 1 of his frinds stol it n stil has it!!

so wll u ban him??? pleas??
:::Well, this is the Homestar Runner Wiki, not IMDb. On this Wiki, Yelt/Granola hasn't trolled. Inform IMBd admins about this and they can sort it out. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 04:41, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

but u saw da flamwar wit da admins hear! u potsed their! n i know yelt was a big vadnal hear
::::Allow me to rephrase, he hasn't trolled recently. Granola has promised never to troll again and mainly has kept to his word. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 04:46, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

== Activity ==
I can't help but notice that you've been much more active lately. I, along with mostly everyone at the wiki, am glad to have you back. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 13:31, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks, Seriously. Yeah, I was having my Bar Mitzvah, and that sorta clogs up my time. But now, I am back, and glad to be on the wiki again. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 13:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, you can't blame a sysop for not coming on because of real-life duties. However, I certainly woldn't mind Homestar Coder coming back. ;) — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 13:41, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Heh, ain't that the truth... {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 13:49, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::::How was your Bar Mitzvah? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 14:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Oh, it was great. Service was nice, party was better. Most of my friends were there, and that's always nice. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 16:11, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

== Block me off ==

I vandilized your page now Block me!!!!!!!! -- [[User:Strong|Strong]] 14:01, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
:You should think about contributing positively, instead of damaging others' hard work. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 14:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

== Hey ==

So, Rouge Leader, how be the haps? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:Nothing much, Qermaq. Life's been hectic recently, with school and stuff. Fill you in on IRC if you want. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:08, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Rogue Leader

Rogue Leader — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:16:23 GMT

Rogue Leader: I've been gone for way too long.

[[Image:Jess-dogs.JPG|thumb|A picture of my beloved dogs and sister.]]
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So my name is Rogue Leader on H*R wiki. My real name is Dan Henderson, and I am from Hollidaysburg, PA.

==About Me, Nonwiki==
Like I said, my name is Dan Henderson. Call me Rogue or Rogue Leader. I like to watch weather and [[Wikipedia:Law and Order|Law and Order]], swiming and going to camps. I have two [[Wikipedia:Bichon|dogs]], one, a frise and the other, a havanese. I am active on the IRC channel and you can see me there on scheluled chats and other times.

==Me and Homestar==
I have loved Homestar since I first laid eyes on him at a camp out in my friends back yard. I like to go to the [[STUFF]] page and look at those strange facts. The merchandise that I got is [[The Cheat]] plush toy, the [[DVD]], and the figurines.

==Profile==
Back in the day, these were sorta hot, so I decided to put this in. Prepare to laugh.

'''Age''': 15

'''Height''': 5 foot 11

'''Best SBemail''': [[rock opera]]

'''Toon''': [[A Jorb Well Done]]

'''Holiday Toon''': [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig|All Hallow's Eve Potion Collection day]]

'''Top 5 Characters''': 1. [[Pom-Pom]] 2. [[Homsar]] 3.[[The Cheat]] 4. [[Homestar]] 5. [[Strong Bad]]

'''Best Game: Legend of Zelda''': Ocarana of Time, Super Mario 64, Super Smash Bros. Melee. Stinkoman and Peasants Quest

'''Favorite Easter egg''': Strumstar Hammer.

==Quotes==
Some quotes I like. Good times... Good times.

*I'm just me, can't you see? I am just a silly little bumblebee.- '''[[Homsar]]'''

*Buttdance Again! like the rhythms down your pants now-'''[[Homestar Runner]]'''

*DELORTED!!! '''[[Coach Z]]'''

*I can count to G! '''[[Whats Her Face]]'''

*And I'll never, ever, ever, ever, ever write a song about Sibbie.-'''[[Strong Bad]]'''

==My Wiki Contributions and Projects==
Here are my contributions that I am particularly proud of and some of my projects.
Favorite contributions:
*Made the [[Rock Opera (karaoke)]] page,
*[[Sample of Style Too: Some Outtakes]],
*[[Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough_Level_9|The 9.1 walkthorugh]].
*Unofficially made [[The Dancing Brothers]] Page. By that, I made an image, [[User:Bkmlb|bkmlb]] put that up, and I did the rest.
*Uploaded [[Peasant's Quest Items]] and added a table section, but HSRusername did the brunt work.
*I have made the following DVD commentaries: [[origins]] [[extra plug]] [[crying]] [[other days]]
*I have recently tagged 400 images with <nowiki>{{web-screenshot}} or {{game-screenshot}}</nowiki>, for which I received this.
[[Image:GruntWorkAward.png|center]]

'''People welcomed''': 196

'''Currently working on''': Natta.

User talk:By the Way Betch

Rogue Leader — Sat, 05 May 2007 02:44:29 GMT

Rogue Leader: Minor typo.

==Welcome to the Wiki!==

{{{personal|Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We're glad to have you as a member.}}} If you need any help, you can ask [[User talk:Homestar-winner|me]], one of the sysops such as [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]], or anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
*If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
*Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
*If you're planing on making a user page, make sure you know the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User space|user space]].
*If you want to know about how you can help out with the wiki, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
*To practice editing, go over to the [[HRWiki:Sandbox|sandbox]].
*If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum].
*If you see an update on [[HR:|homestarrunner.com]] that isn't listed on the [[Main Page]], put it up [[H*R.com updates|here]].
*After you post a remark on a talk page, type four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) to sign it.
*Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user space belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.

Sincerely, 
{{User:Homestar-winner/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki [[HRWiki:Welcoming Committee|Welcoming Committee]]"

==Username==
Hey, I see you registered two User names. This name is borderline innappropriate, so you will have to use your Squidwoman username from now on. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

User talk:By the Way Betch

Rogue Leader — Sat, 05 May 2007 02:42:46 GMT

Rogue Leader: Username

==Welcome to the Wiki!==

{{{personal|Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We're glad to have you as a member.}}} If you need any help, you can ask [[User talk:Homestar-winner|me]], one of the sysops such as [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]], or anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
*If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
*Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
*If you're planing on making a user page, make sure you know the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User space|user space]].
*If you want to know about how you can help out with the wiki, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
*To practice editing, go over to the [[HRWiki:Sandbox|sandbox]].
*If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum].
*If you see an update on [[HR:|homestarrunner.com]] that isn't listed on the [[Main Page]], put it up [[H*R.com updates|here]].
*After you post a remark on a talk page, type four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) to sign it.
*Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user space belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.

Sincerely, 
{{User:Homestar-winner/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki [[HRWiki:Welcoming Committee|Welcoming Committee]]"

==Username==
Hey, I see you registered two User names. This name is borderline innappropriate, so you will have to use your Squidoman username from now on. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

History according to Strong Bad

Rogue Leader — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:21:46 GMT

Rogue Leader: This is probably the best solution, bad bad man's edit caused a redirect

[[Image:Strongbadianthanksgiving.png|250px|thumb|right|Strong Bad Lore: mysterious myths or legendary legends?]]
'''Strong Bad Lore''' is an instance in which [[Strong Bad]] presents as historical fact elements that are either clearly false or that can't be verified. When relating legends, Strong Bad often parodies actual historical storytelling techniques or attempts to make himself look good in the present and the past. Since it is usually related in [[Strong Bad Email|emails]], Strong Bad Lore often centers around the history of [[Strong Badia]], with other characters occasionaly involved in the stories or storytelling.

==Examples of Strong Bad Lore==

==='''In Strong Bad Emails'''===
====[[personal favorites]]====
Strong Bad is asked which Strong Bad Email is his favorite. Although Strong Bad says "[his] emails are like [his] childrens" (he loves them all), he proceeds to name his "personal favorites." While the first two emails he mentions ([[invisibility]] and [[gimmicks]]) exist, the rest have never been seen before. Said emails include [[Bubs]] building a [[Grape-Nuts Robot|Strong Bad Robot]], soy-sauce-drunk Strong Bad "flying" [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], and [[Pom Pom]] and [[Coach Z]] fighting with knives on the [[The Stone Bridge|stone bridge]]. As a result, so many viewers have tried to find the nonexistent emails that an answer was added to the site's [[FAQ]] on the matter.

====[[couch patch]]====
Strong Bad, [[Strong Sad]], [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] and Coach Z all offer their respective memories of how the patch of tape appeared on the couch in the [[Strong Bad's Basement|basement]]. Strong Bad claims it's there because he cut the couch open to make a hiding place for his "[[Aztec]] [[Gold|gold]]" (actually oil filters), but the inside of the couch smelled horrible, so he taped over the cut to stop the smell. Strong Sad claims to remember a [[Little Strong Bad|young Strong Bad]] thinking that Olympic sprinter [[Wikipedia:Carl Lewis|Carl Lewis]] was both a woman and hot, writing so on the couch, and taping it over to cover it up. Homestar tries to provide an explanation, but forgets what the subject of the conversation was, and instead recalls spitting [[Teddy Grahams]] at the ceiling. Coach Z claims he vomited in a rip in the couch after Strong Bad served him bad gumbo, and taped it up to hide the evidence.

====[[colonization]]====
Strong Bad explains Strong Badia's origins. Portraying himself as a [[Wikipedia:Pilgrims|Pilgrim]] persecuted by Strong Sad for his [[Eggs|egg]]-ketchuping ways, he describes leaving [[Free Country, USA]] to set up a new colony in an empty lot behind the dumpsters, owned by Bubs, who is portrayed as a Native-American like "strange man who had strange ways and strange odors". They celebrate Strong Badia's first Thanksgiving at a nearby picnic table with some leftover [[Wikipedia:Hardee's|Hardee's]] burgers.

====[[flashback]]====
Strong Bad tells the story of how he and Homestar Runner first met in a [[Original Book|children's book]], as well as how he came to discover [[The Cheat]], and the origin of [[The King of Town]]'s eating problem. After playing tennis on [[The Moon|the Moon]] with Coach Z, Strong Bad returns to Free Country, USA and comes across a large pink egg, with Homestar Runner nearby. Homestar and Strong Bad get in an argument over who owns the egg, which [[The Prince of Town]] settles by proclaiming a ten-step footrace. Homestar wins, but the Prince declares that the loser gets the egg. Strong Bad and [[Strong Mad]] break open the egg, finding a lifetime supply of fishsticks inside—and a The Cheat! The Cheat "mashes play" on a [[Jam Box|jam box]] and all the characters have a dance party. Afterwards, The Prince claims the fishsticks. Homestar verifies Strong Bad's story, but it's implied that he thinks it's actually a fictional children's book.

====[[lunch special]]====
Strong Bad is asked to get Bubs to give out free lunch specials in exchange for a picture of a hot girl. Strong Bad claims that Bubs has to give out a free lunch special if he says his name backwards minus the first B. In short, he has to say, "sbu". Strong Bad tries to get Bubs to actually say "sbu", failing a number of times. When he finally succeeds, it turns out that saying "sbu" really cancels out Bubs' ability to fly. However, since he is so overweight, he could only hover a few inches off the ground. It apparently isn't much of a loss for him because he never used it much anyway. Strong Bad and even Homestar believe he's just a fraud.

====[[old comics]]====
Strong Bad is asked why the King of Town has a poopsmith, and shows comic strips over 60 years old featuring the King of Town and [[The Poopsmith]] (then named "Mushy Chamberpot"). Strong Bad and Homestar make cameo appearances so that [[The Castlefunnies]] can mooch off of their popularity. Strong Bad does not clarify whether his appearance in the strip was an experience ''he'' actually had, or simply a representation of him.

====[[origins]]====
Strong Bad is asked about the origin of [[The Stick]] and whether it had always been a good place for hanging out. Strong Bad refuses to explain The Stick's origin, but does elaborate on The Stick's "hanging-out-itude". Although The Stick is presently a good meeting place, such was not always the case, particularly when Homestar held his weekly "bread sing-alongs" there. [[The Brothers Strong]] put a stop to these by holding The Cheat's "rhythmic chain dancing recitals" at the same time and location. After Homestar's sing-alongs' popularity faded and Strong Mad ate The Cheat's chainwhip, The Stick was the perfect spot for harrassing [[Marzipan]] and [[Homsar]]. Meanwhile, the Brothers Strong and The Cheat moved to an area behind Bubs' Concession Stand, where they named themselves the [[On Point Kings]], had nothing to do with guff, and, ultimately, stole the [[King of Town]]'s dunce cap, renaming it Lotionman (Strong Mad's idea). In the same email, he claims he drilled the belly button into Strong Sad when he was younger and that [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] was founded after it fell on [[Mr. Bland]] and [[Señor]].

====[[highschool]]====
Strong Bad explains the characters' younger days, though he disclaims that his memory is extremely "unphotographic", and therefore his histories are not very reliable. In highschool, the characters filled the stereotypical roles for old cartoons about teenagers (ala Scooby Doo) as a 70s-style [[The Homestar Runner Mysfit-steries|gang of mystery solvers]]. Before that, in middle school, they were all imaginative "melon-headed babies", occupying their time pretending to be living their dreams. Homestar is portrayed as some kind of grown adult supervisor. Before that, the gang were a bunch of microscopic single-celled organisms living in a [[Free Country, USA#Free Petry Dish USA|petri dish]]. And yet before that, they were all Romans, living in [[Wikipedia:Ancient Rome|Roman times]], with [[Don Knotts]] always showing up.

====[[myths & legends]]====
Strong Bad details the legends surrounding the [[Bear holding a Shark]]. Much of the Bear-Shark's origins can be seen in the constellations over Strong Badia, which show the [[Strong Badia's Seven Elemental Spirits|seven elemental spirits of Strong Badia]]: a [[flag day|snake]], a guy holding a [[Big Knives|big knife]], a box of [[General Tso's Chicken|chicken]], a piece of wood with some nails in it, a hand giving the "OK" symbol, a fish wearing an afro wig, and a British distance runner. The distance runner held up the fish with the fro wig over his head, and the two defeated the other spirits in either paintball or Red Rover, thus becoming the new rulers. After years of bad story telling and the [[Wikipedia:Telephone (game)|telephone game]], the myth went through various incarnations, as evidenced by various documentary-type evidence, ranging from medieval wood carvings of a hairy "wildernessman" with a "sea beast", to a cathedral-style stained glass window of a moose holding an iguana in its antlers. Strong Bad then researches some "ancient [[Wikipedia:Cave painting|fence drawings]]" on the Strong Badian picket fence, which consist of strange images of the Bear-Shark destroying villages and crops, stealing babies, and bike riding (or pie-sitting) with what appears to be its family. The drawings were actually done by Strong Bad at age 5, though he has long forgotten this. Bubs begins selling Bear-Shark merchandise such as t-shirts, [[Ice Cream|frozen treats]] and plush toys. Homestar manages to capture (or forge) blurry [[Wikipedia:Patterson-Gimlin film|Bigfoot-style]] footage of what may be the Bear-Shark in the woods, but this only adds to the question of whether the Bear-Shark is a mysterious myth or a legendary legend.

====[[looking old]]====
Strong Bad claims his age is a closely guarded secret, protected by a sect of closely guarded monks in the [[Wikipedia:Cohes Mountains]]. He boasts that the monks would no sooner dance with a [[Goat|goat]] than reveal his age, but they would bake [[Crustly Guarded Bread]].

==='''In Shorts'''===

====[[TrogdorCon '97]]====

Strong Bad and [[The Cheat]] get a booth at what Strong Bad calls "Trogdor Con '97". Later, Strong Sad debunks this one by confirming that "It's not called TrogdorCon and it's 2005". One can assume that it was [[Wikipedia:Dragon Con|Dragon Con]].

==See Also==
*[[Blatant Lies]]

[[Category:Research]]
[[Category:Exaggeration running gags]]
[[Category:Strong Badia|Lore]]

Pom Pom

Rogue Leader — Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:08:44 GMT

Rogue Leader: I think it looks pretty nice

{{charnav|Pom Pom|pp|Strong Sad|Marzipan}}
{{aboutcharacter}} {{foremail|pom pom}}
[[Image:pompom.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Probably talking to some fine honey on his celly.]]
== Biography ==

[[Image:Babypp.PNG|thumb|Bouncy, bouncy...]]

'''Pom Pom''' (also spelled '''Pom-Pom''') is a Pom from the [[Pom Pom, Too|Isle of Pom]]. Pom Pom, like all Poms, appears to be inflated. He talks by making [[Deliberately Poor English#A Lack of Intelligible Speech|bubbly noises]] and can absorb objects into his body for storage, suggesting that he is made of some sort of carbonated/gelatinous substance. He is also quite skilled in [[Wikipedia:Martial Art|martial arts]] (see [[Pom Pom#Fighting Skills|below]]).

Pom Pom is [[Homestar Runner]]'s best friend, but he sometimes hangs out with [[Strong Bad]] as well. He has such an open mind that he spends time with even unpopular characters such as the [[The King of Town|King of Town]] and [[The Poopsmith]]. Pom Pom is often seen talking on [[Cell Phone|his cell phone]] to his many [[Pom Pom's girls|girlfriends]], and he keeps track of their contact information in his [[Pom Pilot]]. His parents' names are [[General and Fraulein Pom Pom]], as seen in an Easter egg in the Strong Bad Email [[pom pom]]. Pom Pom was going to have a dog named [[Rejected Characters#Trivia Time|Trivia Time]], but this concept seems to have been abandoned.

*'''Debut:''' [[Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"]]

*[[:Category:Pom Pom Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

== Character Video Transcript ==
''{'''Page Title''': The Most Mackinest!!}'' ''{'''Place:''' [[The Field]]}''

''{Pom Pom is talking on his phone.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Here go Pom Pom. ''{to Pom Pom}'' What's up, Pom Pom? ''{Pom Pom gestures to his phone}'' Oh, sorry. ''{to camera}'' Pom Pom is definitely the mack around here. And he's my best friend. He's gotten me out of some pretty tight jams. And some pretty tight pants! But that only happened once. ''{to Pom Pom}'' Hey Pom Pom—''{Pom Pom looks at him angrily and points to his phone}'' Oh, right. I forgot already. He's probably talking to some fine honey on his celly. ''{Pom Pom gets out his wallet and shows the camera some pictures of his girlfriends, then tries to put it back in later but a part of it is sticking out, which he shoves it in with more force.}'' About to get her phone number. Or maybe he already has it. He gets digits like every single day. ''{to Pom Pom}'' Isn't that right, Pom Pom? ''{irritated, Pom Pom snaps his phone shut and bubbles angrily at Homestar}'' Oh, sorry again man. My bad. I wasn't trying to step to you or anything. We're still cool. ''{Pom Pom sighs, puts his phone away, shakes his head and bounces away}'' Pom Pom and I are still cool.

== Fighting Skills ==
[[Image:MartialArtsPom-Pom.PNG|thumb|right|160px|Kung-Fu skills.]]
Pom Pom is a good martial arts fighter and appears to enjoy it.

The first instance of Pom Pom fighting is in his dojo from the [[Theme Song Video]] where he practices his moves, this is broadened on later in the email [[pom pom]] where he gets a [[Nintendo|1-Up]] by beating [[Strong Bad]]. In the commentary for the same email [[The Brothers Chaps]] discussed wanting to make a side scrolling Pom Pom fighting game. This also was seen in the [[Strong Bad Email]], [[personal favorites]] where he got into a "knife fight" with [[Coach Z]]. Later in [[Summer Short Shorts]], Pom Pom shows off his skills with a [[Wikipedia:Bō|Bō]] and disappears with a smoke bomb.

== Fun Facts ==
=== Driver's license ===
<blockquote>POM POM 
125 Lexington Ave 
Isle Of Pom 
 
SEX HEIGHT WEIGHT 
POM 6'2" 4 lbs 
 
ORGAN 
DONOR</blockquote>

===Phone Numbers===
''Home'': (123) 456-7890 
''Cell'': (123) 555-8307 
''Pager'': (718) 555-1059 

* Based on the area code for his pager number, Pom Pom has either lived or does business in the outer boroughs of New York City. 123 is not a real area code, as none (in the [[wikipedia:North American Numbering Plan|North American Numbering Plan]], at least) begin with the numeral 1.
* Pom Pom's "voice" is the same re-used sound sample of [[Mike Chapman]] blowing bubbles into a glass of milk. His is the only voice that is never recorded fresh for every toon (and never has since his first appearance).
* "The Most Mackinest" is a phrase taken from the [[Wikipedia:Beastie Boys|Beastie Boys]]' song "Shake Your Rump."
* Pom Pom is the only main character whose parents have been seen on the site, in a picture in [[Pom Pom, Too]]. They are differently-colored Poms there, but Strong Bad hypothetically envisions them as a [[Pom Pom's Hypothetical Family|File Cabinet]] in [[Family Resemblence]].
*Pom Pom's ringtone is a clip of DJ Teh Cheat's remix of [[The Geddup Noise]], as heard in [[technology]].
* Pom Pom seems to own a firearm, as he has pulled out a gun in [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] and [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].

== Variatons ==
*[[Fat Dudley]] ([[Old-Timey]])
*[[Pan Pan]] ([[20X6]])

=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===

*[[Wikipedia:Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man|Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man]] (from [[Wikipedia:Ghostbusters|Ghostbusters]]) in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*[[Wikipedia:Michael_Moore|Michael Moore]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*[[Wikipedia:Kool-Aid_Man|Kool-Aid Man]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*[[Wikipedia:Kamala (wrestler)|Kamala the Ugandan Giant]] in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*The Big Boy (from [http://www.bobs.net/ Bob's Big Boy]) in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Walter Sobchak from [[The Big Lebowski]] in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*[[IMDB:nm1602671|Mario Batali]] in [[Happy Hallow-day]].

==See Also==
*[[Pom Pom Evolution]]
*[[Pom Pom Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Pom Pom|Nicknames]]
*[[Pom Pom's Hypothetical Family]]

== External links ==
*[[HR:vcr_pp.html|watch Pom Pom's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_pp.swf|view the Flash file for Pom Pom's character video]]

{{subtitlesLinks|vcr_pp}}

{{Characters|Pom Pom}}

HRWiki talk:Standards

Rogue Leader — Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:54:38 GMT

Rogue Leader: A possibilty

== REALLY External Links? ==
I can't find anything about this in the user guide.. but you know in the external links section of writeups, and in other places, how it puts that icon after the link (a blue box with an arow coming out)? To me, that essentially says "The link will open up in a new window" as well as "The link goes offsite". I've seen many websites (including every website I've built.. [http://www.lightsecond.com lightsecond.com], [http://www.bend.com bend.com]) that have the convention that if the link goes offsite, it should do so in a new window. Can/should we do the same here? 
[[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 20:47, 25 Sep 2004 (MST)

:I'm voting against it. Opening a link in a new window is almost pretentious, as if the site you are on should have the power to not let you leave. Modern browsers like Firefox will let you open a link in a new tab when you want to go elsewhere by middle-clicking your mouse, and users are used to doing that when they want to stay on the current site. Furthermore, Firefox by default doesn't open new window links in new tabs, which annoys me to no end. I would say that an offsite link should behave like a normal link, so as not to confuse the user, and that opening a link in a new window should be a perogative of a web application that has a good reason for not taking you offsite. An example of this would be Hotmail, which opens links in a new window to keep you logged in unless you explicity log out. Most users of this site won't be logged in, and they'll be expecting the wiki to behave like like a normal website. So I saw leave it the way it is, and let the user control where his links pop up. If the icon is confusing, change the icon. [[User:Render|Render]]
What about if it's a logged-in-user user preference? And of course this all pre-supposes that such fancies are possible in MediaWiki, which I dunno :) Anyway I have yet to understand tabs since they always open underneath the current page.. they make me think of icky popunders. (Do you know of any good tabbed-browsing-for-dummies like faq on the 'net? I'd read that ;) 
[[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 22:21, 25 Sep 2004 (MST)
:User-configurable preferences are always good. Any admins know if this is possible in MediaWiki without a major overhaul? (As for tabs, I suppose it's just one of those things that just sort of grows on you. I like the pop-under effect because it lets me open interesting links for deferred viewing while I continue reading the page I'm on.) [[User:Render|Render]]

== Bold Punctuation? ==

I like how this is coming along, Jones. One question, though: haven't we always placed the colon outside the bold tags, as in "'''THE CHEAT''':"? I guess I don't mind it either way, as long as we are adhering to a standard, but are there rules to this sort of thing? I remember being taught in school that punctuation should never be bold. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 09:43, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Er, I thought we did it the other way around. And since the colon is part of the character "declaration" (rather than part of the dialogue), it seems more natural to have it bold as well. -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 10:00, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

::Okay, I've been looking around the web (but [[User:Tom|Tom]] is better at Googling than I am) and I can't find anything about whether or not punctuation should be bold. I think it looks more consistent to have the colon in bold. I just wanted to be sure that was the right thing. Carry on. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 10:26, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)
:::I've always bolded the colon. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]
:Think about it the inverse way. What if you were being asked to bold the dialog instead of the character name? Would you then bold the colon as well? The colon would still have a space before the dialog started so that would look pretty silly: "THE CHEAT''': Meh!'''". so I think you should do with the colon what you do with the character name, not what you do with the dialog. :)
:[[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 20:19, 25 Sep 2004 (MST)

== Cast (in order of appearance) vs Featuring/Features ==

I was thinking, for pages for things like early Strong Bad Emails and anything else where only one character appears, it seems kind of redundant to add the "in order of appearance" part since only one character appears. For SBemail#1, I just put "Cast" but even this seems a bit improper as a cast is generally referring to "The actors in a play, movie, or other theatrical presentation," not just one actor. I thought "Featuring" or something like that would be more appropriate... I feel like I'm rambling. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

:I guess I don't have an opinion on this one. Certainly "(in order of appearance) is superflouous for one-character toons, but beyond that I don't much care. Anybody else? -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 11:41, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

::To me, "Featuring" would make the most sense for one-character toons [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

:::Yeah, for a one character toon I like the word "Featuring". — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 12:55, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

::::But what about the meaning of the word "featuring"? Didn't [[cheatday]] feature The Cheat? I'd think using that word for some emails and "cast" for others would be misleading. Or at the very least, confusing. I'm thinking that leaving off the "in order of appearance" for toons with only one character would work well enough. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:24, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)
:I'm with Tom on this. Brevity good, "featuring" bad ;) I know on albums and song titles they say "song, by Rapper, feat. other guys".. but it isn't feat. Rapper. I'm also selfishly hoping the word "featuring" can be ostricised for long enough to easily convert things.
:A quick look at a thesaurus suggests to me we could say "Starring: Strong Bad" but I'd also listen to other bright idears
:[[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 20:28, 25 Sep 2004 (MST)

== SB email reference. ==

I have been using the following styles when referencing a Strong Bad Email depending on the context.

<pre>in the email "[[the facts]]"</pre>

<pre> in the Strong Bad Email: [[the facts]] </pre>

<pre>==Complete Filmography==
* Email: [[duck pond]]</pre>

My goal is to make it clear that we are refering to the title of something.
Otherwise one could get a sentance like,

[[Pom Pom]] kicked [[Strong Bad]] in the head in [[pom pom (email) | Pom Pom]].

Not clear at all. Should this reference be standardized?
-[[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 11:47, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

:It wouldn't hurt to standardize it since I see all sorts of different usages all over. However, I tend to put the quotation marks inside the link like this: <nowiki>[[the facts|"the facts"]]</nowiki>, which yields [[the facts|"the facts"]]. Looks better to me, but I'd like to hear others' opinions. -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 11:54, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

::I don't think having the leading "Strong Bad Email" is needed. But that's me. What about readers who don't know the emails? But then, if we started putting "in the email, [[sibbie]]", would we also need to start using that for toons and shorts as well, as in "in the toon, [[Where's The Cheat?]]" and "in the short [[Experimental Film]]"? Hmm. I'd also like to hear some other' input.
::Though I do like having the Filmography listings standardized. Very good. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:34, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

:::I will third the opinion that quotes should be around the title of a toon or email when it is being used in a sentence (as opposed to a bulleted list of related items such as that found on the SBEmail page). I'm not sure which I like better. Putting them outside the link would be easier on my poor typing finders, but putting them inside the link does look nicer. Just my two cents for what it's worth. Should we start a decision poll on the Forum? Not sure we need the leading "in the email, 'whatever'". I think we can just say, "in [[the facts|'the facts']]." As long as it's in quotes you know it's a toon or an email as opposed to it being a character as in Drhaggis' example. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 12:41, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

::For me, having the quotes in the brackets is unnecessary piping. We should also be adding quotes around unlinked toon titles. -[[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 15:02, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

== Since when do we not transcribe easter eggs? ==
I personally think easter eggs ''should'' be transcribed. We can't hardly bill ourselves as a definitive knowledge-base of all things Homestar if we don't have transcripts of the easter eggs. Yes, it would ruin the surprise, but so does everything else on our site! The whole reason for a transcript is for people to understand what the characters are saying. If I can't make out what Strong Sad is saying in some-such easter egg, I'd like to be able to find it on the site and read what other people think/know he's saying. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 13:37, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Okay, fair enough. So we need a standard for transcribing them. Any ideas? -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 13:50, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

::I liked having the short transcript under the bulleted item, but that does get bulky. Let me play around with some ideas and get back to you. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 14:24, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

:::I took this claim against transcription of EE, was for cases when the egg would be detailed on another page. Such as in the case of a game, or the introduction of another characeter. -[[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 19:02, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

::::I thought we always did transcribe them. And the unwritten rule has always been this: If the egg is "clickable", that is, the user has to do something to cause the egg, it goes in the "Easter Egg" section. If the egg does not require any action on the part of the user, besides them just sitting in front of their computer a little longer, it goes in the Transcript. I'm pretty sure that's what everybody does anyway, but I just want to make it clear. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:08, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

::What about creating subheadings (i.e. <tt><nowiki>===cheatsa===</nowiki></tt>) before each easter egg transcript in the Easter Eggs section? That would make things clearer. (I'm thinking something like:)

<pre>
===Homestar===
'''Click on the word "Homestar" to see Homestar crying.'''

''{Homestar is still bawling.}''

'''HOMESTAR''': Ohh, Tenderfoot! Can you tell me what to do
with myself? I feel like I'm at a crossroads, and there's like,
a Denny's on one corner, and an IHOP on the other!

''{Homestar is kneeling over the Tenderfoot drawing.}''

'''HOMESTAR''': Can you give me some sound financial advice?

''{Homestar is laying on the ground again.}''

'''HOMESTAR''': Tenderfoot, can you help advise me on my future?
</pre>

Anybody with me? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 11:17, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Format for Lyrics ==

Song lyrics are inconsistently styled throughout the site. I propose that we embed lyrics in <pre> tags, so that they show up inside of a box the same way that the transcribed text of the Strong Bad emails do. Thoughts? [[User:Render|Render]]
:Seconded. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
::Seconded. -[[User:flatluigi|flatluigi]]

== Forward references ==

[[dragon]] has a link to [[guitar]]. Should [[guitar]] have a link to [[dragon]]?
:Chronology on the official site shouldn't affect what can link to what in the wiki. If a link to a future email is interesting and relevant, I don't see why it shouldn't be included. [[User:Render|Render]]

== Category pages ==

Currently Category pages, such as [[:Category:Strong Bad Email]] or [[:Category:1936]] only contain text such as "These articles are all Strong Bad Emails.", and all the substance on that topic is contained in a separate page. Would it make more sense to move all of the substance to the Category page, and turn the actual [[Strong Bad Email]] or [[1936]] page into a mere redirect to the Category? Once and Only Once etc, since it would also provide the listing of everything in the Category underneath. -- [[User:thejesterx|thejesterx]] 21:47, 6 Oct 2004 (MST)

:No, I don't think so. The Strong Bad Email page has a lot of information that wouldn't fit in the category page, and it's a lot easier to link to a regular page (<nowiki>[[Strong Bad Email]] vs. [[:Category:Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Email]]) than a category. Categories should just be categories, not articles. ~~~

</nowiki>

== Character pictures ==

Now we use thumbnails for toon screenshots - should we do the same for character images? I assume we should, but I thought I'd better verify since it's not made clear anywhere. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:'''EDIT:''' According to the projects page (drawn to my attention by [[User:spblat|spblat]]), "we need to comb the entire wiki changing full-sized images to thumbnails". This pretty much answers my question. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

I guess it's my turn to have some fun. I've noticed that a lot of the filmography category styles are different. I'm going to go around changing them so they're a bolded debut and any complete list says "complete filmography". Otherwise, it will just say filmography. Is this ok? [[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:21, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Egg Transcribing Part 2 ==

OK, since I've heard conflicting ideas on the wiki on whether or not Easter Eggs should be transcribed or not, can we finally get some sort of official, definitive yes/no on this? There's both the discussion on this page, the actual Standards page itself, and the discussion page for [[extra plug]] to take into consideration as to my confusion concerning it. I'm asking about this since, while I took the conversation on this page and in [[extra plug]] to mean Easter Eggs are expected to be transcribed now, some Easter Egg transcriptions are now being removed (see, for example, [[Where the Crap Are We?]].) --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 12:00, 18 Oct 2004 (MST)
:This site aims to preserve so much other minutiae about Homestar Runner that I can’t imagine where the policy to not transcribe easter eggs came from. Are we trying to reduce spoilers? In that case, all of the transcripts are also inappropriate. I say we transcribe eggs in the easter eggs section where they are clearly marked and can be skipped by those who want to discover them on their own. [[User:Render|Render]]

:I was the one who deleted the Where the Crap Are We? egg transcript. I've probably removed a couple of others as well, because I wasn't aware that we ''should'' be transcribing eggs. Sorry about that. (I assume we ''are'' now giving egg transcripts?) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

::Yes, we are now transcribing easter eggs. I believe I caused the confusion. Sorry 'bout that. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

::FYI: In the other "Easter Egg Transcribing" section, I proposed a format to transcribe easter eggs with in order to reduce clutter. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 11:21, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Thumbnails vs full-size images? ==

I read [[HRWiki:Projects|here]] that we should be focused on using thumbnails instead of full size images. I've been doing this on some, but I don't want to go nuts before I know I'm not messing things up. Are there any cases where full size screenshots [[Homsar Main Page|(like this)]] should be preserved? -- [[User:spblat|spblat]] 7:13 PM 23 Oct 2004 (later) foo. Answered my own question. looks like full speed ahead--the standards page is quite clear on this.

== Places ==

Should we start adding "'''Places (in order of apperance)'''" on toon pages? I think it would be helpful to new-comers, as well as everyone else. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

== Wikilinks in transcript dialogue ==

:''There should never be links in dialogue or email sections.''

I'm not so sure about this rule. Certainly we shouldn't create links willy-nilly. But when Strong Bad asks, "Did the [[Wikipedia:quadratic formula|quadratic formula]] explode?", it'd be nice to just link the words "quadratic formula" than to have to propose a whole fun fact about it (which is often not that much fun). - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:03, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Nah. I'd like to keep it as it is. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

== Splitting Fun Facts ==

I have an idea for splitting the Fun Facts section into multiple smaller segments - so, if we can't get rid of the now-customary influx of "facts", we can at least split them up. I put my proposed edit (which is open for debate!) at 'link deleted'. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:44, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Sounds interesting and well thought out, but I think we might want to wait for the dust to settle from this whole star thingy before we start to shake things up any more.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:02, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)

::Strangely enough, it was the whole star thing that caused me to bring it up in the first place (though I'd been toying with the idea for a while.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

:::I was bored at work and started segmenting some of the [[some kinda robot|Strong]] [[i she be|Bad]] [[butt IQ|Emails]]. For now I'm not doing any more in the interest that the Wiki should decide on one standard for the fun facts; otherwise I'm just opening up a can of worms that doesn't need to be touched. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

::::Since I had to remove the subpages, I moved the proposed changes and example to [[User_talk:Jay|my talk page]]. Nothing changed, really. PS. I like the "Fast Forward" category name (used in [[some kinda robot]] by Kamek) over my somewhat lame "To be continued..." --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:06, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

:::::Well, if the two of you want to tackle this, I don't really see any reason why you shouldn't. I'll try to help when I can. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

::::::I'll go ahead and continue with the refactoring of the Fun Facts. The way I see it is that if something isn't done about it, nothing will get done at all. For the most part I'll try to stick to your proposed standards, Jay. I might add or remove categories if necessary. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 17:59, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

:::::::I think the fun facts layout should be as following:
<pre>
== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
Interesting facts about the toon or e-mail.
=== References ===
Interesting references to other things outside Homestar Runner.
=== References To Other Cartoons ===
References to other cartoons.
=== References By Other Cartoons ===
References that other cartoons have made to this toon or e-mail.
</pre>
:::::::I realize that this is roughly what is already being done, but I think the sections should be reworded.

:::::::And what about this "gold star" thing? Is it going to happen, or are we going to trash it? Have we even decided yet? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

As you've probably noticed, I've split all the sbemails and TGS8. The Fun Facts heading is still there, but everything is in subcategories now. The only complaints I got were one person who didn't like me splitting the emails with very few facts - which I have explained (on my talk page) - and another who didn't like the category name "Fast Forward" (because it was too ambiguous) but didn't offer anything better. (Of course, I'd gladly delete the Fast Forward subcategory and every last Fun Fact within it, except that most people don't seem to agree that this is a good idea.) Is everyone okay with this being a permanent change? Any complaints about the splitting itself, rather than the format? Should we update the Standards? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:57, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== Real-World References? ===
Is just me, or do we need better name for "Real-World References"? The name isn't very accurate when we add facts about other fiction. I suggest "Outside References" or "Cultural References". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
: On the one hand, I think you're on to something when you say that "Cultural" might be a better term. On the other hand... well, you'd have to go through a LOT of articles to fix it... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

That's why we [[HRWiki:Projects|Projects]], my friend. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 07:41, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== Running Gags Section ===
As you may have seen in a recent STUFF'd fun fact, there have been mixed reactions about letting "This is another instance pof The Cheta's head exploading" be a fun fact, so I'm thinking we should have a Running Gags section for fun facts. WHat do you guys think?

:Nah. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:58, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::C'mon, FireBird, give us a little more than a one-word response. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:The vote to accept is currently 18–2, and I think the two decliners mistook a running gag for an ''n''th instance of something or a common event. As for listing the running gags, I don't have a problem with keeping them in Inside References, since that's what they are. But they should definitely be documented ''somewhere'', at the very least so that they can link to the Running Gags page. I will keep an open mind on this idea for now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:02, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Mentioning them in Inside References I feel would be the best idea, but I'm fully against a full category for them. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:07, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I also agree with that, I was just surprised when it was STUFF'd. - [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 17:09, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I would like to pop in my say on this: As a relative new-comer to the wiki, one who has been here for a while but is yet to make an account, I think that having a Fun-Facts split section for Running Gags would be good, and if it isn't, ''it couldn't do any harm.'' -[[User:Ariamaki|Ariamaki]] July 7th, 4:11 AM est.

:Creating a page with a bunch of keyboard mashings wouldn't do any harm, either, but we delete it anyway. Adding a new Fun fact that is poor in grammar wouldn't do any harm, but we fix it anyway. Of course it wouldn't do harm, but some just don't like the idea of it. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 13:45, 7 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Running gags don't appear in great numbers, so we would probably just have one fun fact in the section. If any. [[User:Rogue Leader|Rogue Leader]]

* I am all for it, it sounds like a great idea. [[User:Total Spaceship Guy3|Total Spaceship Guy3]] 20:47, 7 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Err... Why was my edit reverted? ==

Internet (as in ''the'' Internet; the one Homestar Runner is on) is a proper noun and should thus be capitalized. See [[Wikipedia:Internet]]. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡ βøв'''''</tt>]] 20:38, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Forgot to mention that Flash (as in Macromedia Flash; the format that most Homestar Runner content is in) should also be capitalized, yet the F goes uncapitalized on many pages. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡ βøв'''''</tt>]] 20:40, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Good question about the "I" in Internet. I'm not really sure, you might want to ask over on InterruptorJones's [[User talk:InterruptorJones|talk page]]. As for the "F" in Flash, that's a good point. I change it when I see it, and I've updated the page to note the capital.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:16, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I realize this discussion was held months ago, but when I read this just now it reminded me of an article on Wired.com almost a year ago: ''[http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,64596,00.html It's Just the 'internet' Now]''. They make a lot of good points in there. Macromedia Flash is certainly a formal product name, but "internet" is no different from "radio" or "television". The internet isn't a product, it's a medium. It isn't a proper noun, it's just a noun. In fact, the Wikipedia:Internet article does mention the shift away from capitalizing in the [[Wikipedia:Internet#Naming_conventions|naming conventions]] section. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:19, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::Yeah, that article has [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Internet&diff=20792770&oldid=11598610 come a long way] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Internet&oldid=11598610 since March]. I'd think that being a knowledge base we'd tend to use it in the formal sense though. Is that right?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:37, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Duration vs. Running Time==
I've noticed that, at least for [[Strong Bad Email]] pages/transcripts, the note about how long it is is inconsistent. Some pages use "Duration," others use "Running Time." Not that it's really that big of a deal, but which one would be better to use? (I vote "Running Time.")—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|StrongstarRunbad]] 09:14, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Template to simplify Cast & Filmography ==

I've made a template, [[:Template:Film]], that can be used for Cast lists in toon pages. It automatically adds the page to the character's Filmography category, so you don't need to explicitly add the filmography category at the bottom of the page. For example, for [[rampage]]:

<pre>
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}},
{{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}},
{{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The Cheat}},
{{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homsar}}
</pre>

Replaces:

<pre>
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Mad]],
[[The King of Town]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Coach Z]],
[[The Cheat]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homsar]]

...

[[Category: Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category: Strong Mad Filmography]]
[[Category: The King of Town Filmography]] [[Category: Homestar Runner Filmography]]
[[Category: Coach Z Filmography]] [[Category: The Cheat Filmography]]
[[Category: Strong Sad Filmography]] [[Category: Marzipan Filmography]]
[[Category: Homsar Filmography]]
</pre>

It seems to simplify things. What do people think?
-- [[User:thejesterx|thejesterx]] 09:24, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Similar template for Computer in SBEmails ==

I noticed that SBEmail pages don't specify the computer the email was received on, they merely show it in the relevant category at the bottom. I made a similar template, [[:Template:Comp]] to specify the computer Strong Bad used to receive the email, and automatically put it in the category for that computer. For example, in [[rampage]]:
<pre>{{Comp|Lappy 486}}</pre>
Which displays: '''Computer:''' [[Lappy 486]], and puts the page in the [[:Category:Lappy 486 Emails]] category. Anyone think this is a good idea, or is this info unnecessary?
-- [[User:thejesterx|thejesterx]] 09:31, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Image Standards ==

With the recent makeover of [[Characters]] and [[Items]], the need for better headlines and captiones of images has grown strong. [[User:Homestar Coder|Homestar Coder]] and [[User:E.L. Cool|myself]] begone to change those systematically, but to what? All the pictures already changed, like [[:Image:homestar.PNG|this one]] used the following standard:

<pre>
'''[[artical name]]''' (from [[toon this image was taken from]])
</pre>

For cases with images of more than one character, artical of place it was taken from, all the appropriate links should be made, and the most important ones should be '''bolded'''. If this standard is fine with everybody, than I think it need to be added to the standard page. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:12, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs ==

Should it be a standard to differentiate between easter eggs that occur during the toon and easter eggs that occur at the end of the toon? --[[User:Ace00899|Ace00899]] 02:27, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:They ''should'' already be listed in chronological order and have descriptions about where to find them, like early in the toon or at the end. A better, more pertinent question is, are we going to start listing so-called waiting eggs (those things that happen seconds after the Paper comes down) in the Easter egg section? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:37, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== More general "out of the frame" rule proposal ==

I've seen a lot of fun facts floating around that to me seem analogous to the outside-the-frame facts that we usually delete with a vengeance. Most of them involve a seek bar in some way, or using the right-click menu (by viewing the swf directly or on pages that don't have it disabled). I suggest that the standards for glitches be changed to include something like:<blockquote>Glitches which occur in such a way that they cannot be seen during normal viewing (for example they happen outside the frame, or need a seek bar) are usually '''not''' notable. However if something happens that can only be accessed in this way, but is intentional, or otherwise adds something to the article, then it should be mentioned as a Remark.</blockquote>Probably would need some rewording before (and if) becoming official, but it gets my point across... the idea is that this would remove all the facts like:
*(The canonical) If you view the flash file, String Bad has no body, just a head!
*If you use a seek bar to skip some initialisation, things aren't initalised properly (such as the "Undefined.Undefined" level in [[Stinkoman 20X6]])
*Anything involving RMB->Pause or RMB->Play
*Anything involving the Stinkoman 20X6 Cheat Program, or any other tool that makes things happen in ways they weren't intended to.
However it would still allow facts like:
*Moving the mouse over "Store" lots and then over "Downloads" doesn't work properly on [[Main Page 22]] (uses only the controls avaliable in the flash file itself, so comes under "normal viewing")
*The moustacioed Homestar in [[Senorial Day]] (clearly intentional)
*The dancing headless Homestar in [[mile]] ("otherwise adds something to the article")
It probably needs rewording, such specifying what "normal viewing" and "adds something to the article" mean, but the spirit of the proposal is there, even if the letter is imperfect. Your thoughts? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:16, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

:If noone has any objections I'll take the axe to [[Stinkoman 20X6 Glitches]], which is full of things like this... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:15, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

::Sounds pretty good Philip.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:52, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== Standardize "The Cheat Noises" ==

My attention was drawn to [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] by an anonny disagreeing with another over what it sounded like The Cheat was saying. Now I've seen in various transcript edits a trend to "not put words in The Cheat's mouth" and simply transcribe as "The Cheat noises." This is ''not'' universally implemented, though; there are lots and lots of instances of things like ''{The Cheat squeaks, it sounds like...}''. I'm not sure I'd advocate reducing everything to "The Cheat noises;" in some instances his noise really sounds strikingly like some phrase, enough to note; also variations such as "The Cheat noises in the affirmative" or "The Cheat squeaks softly" ([[lady...ing]]) are good. But we seriously need to fix some. 
Also, should they be: 
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}'' ... or simply insert it within the flow of other characters' dialogue?

Oh, and one other thing: the colon is bold along with the name, as above, right? That needs to be changed on [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] too. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:56, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:Almost all of the cases should be "The Cheat noises" or "The Cheat squeaks" or similar. I do believe that there does exist that tiny fraction where it actually sounds like he's saying something. But these cases are quite rare. Also notable are the instances where he was translated courtesy of the "Learn to Speak The Cheat" Easter egg. I like when we can add something to indicate his mood or tone of voice, as you mentioned. Finally, other characters get their own line of text when they speak. Why not The Cheat? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:14, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

::Cool. If no one objects, I'll make this my little project. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:16, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Also, when the colons aren't bold faced, that's an error of the transcriber. The colons need to be boldfaced. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::::Thanks! I'm doing that too as I encounter them. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:47, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Ignored Rule ==
<blockquote>If a character does something while speaking a line of dialogue, or if more description is needed for their manner of speaking or inflection (e.g. if they're singing or whispering) the action ('''if it is not too long to describe in a few words''') can be enclosed in curly braces — { } — and made italic, like this: {goes to the refrigerator}. Note that the curly braces themselves are also italic. Short actions like these do not need to be proper sentences.</blockquote>

The bold rule is probably one of the most ignored rules ever. Go through the various transcripts and you'll see tons of examples of long in-dialogue actions, some of which don't even relate to the speaker. This problem needs to be fixed, but it's way too big for me to do alone. ([[modeling|Here]] is an extreme example of this problem.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I put this in projects, because that's probably where it belongs. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:54, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::That's fine, but does anybody read that page? You should delete it from either here or there, to avoid duplicating the discussion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure. It ''belongs'' in Projects, but I don't think anyone reads that page either, because it is so outdated, and many of the projects aren't done. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sig standards ==

I realize it's partly my fault for teaching people how to use templates for their sigs and adding an icon to my own sig, but things are starting to really get out of hand. For starters, I propose we restrict images to one 16 x 16 image per sig. If enough people are against images altogether, I don't mind complying and removing my image. Secondly, I think we should prohibit <code>sup</code> and <code>sub</code> tags in sigs altogether. Third, should we have restrictions on the number of colors people are allowed to use in their sigs, or should we prohibit colors all together? Fourth, should we restrict length? I'm not sure how we could police this one since length depends mostly on a person's username. Just some ideas. Talk amongst yourselves. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:13, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:Just for reference, I'd like to point out the Fanstuff Wiki encountered a similar problem a while back. Information can be found [[HRFWiki:Too Long Clanky|here]], along with a link to the rules that were made regarding it. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 01:55, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'd just like to clarify, these sig standards don't apply to anything sig-like on user page/talk page/sub pages that aren't a sig template. A prime example of a possible conflict would be [[User:Wilbur|Wilbur's user sig]]. As a bonus, anybody who would like to showcase their denied sig could still do so on their userpage. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:58, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
===Image===
*Don't mind them, as long as they're small. And even though I like H*C's cat, I think the images should be static, not animated. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*A small one. one that do not highens the line above it in normal text. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
*Keep it to < 16px. Larger images get out of hand. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:54, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
*I like a small image in a sig; it makes people quickly identifiable. I would propose a guideline of 20x20 instead of 16x16. JoeyDay's sig icon is 19px high and it looks just fine to me. Personally I don't mind animated images ;) but if they annoy other people then we could disallow them. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:53, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
*20 pixels is fine. Animated images, to me, are fine now, but may have a tendency to get out of hand in the future. I think that animated gifs should be turned into png versions, so that the image is preserved, but it doesn't get distracting. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 11:12, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
* Oh, I didn't realize my image was that big. I revise my original proposal. 20 x 20 should be good. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:06, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
* I think images are fine as long as they don't stretch the line of text too high and low. Animated ones don't bug me, as long as they aren't flashy. (For example, H*C's pic is fine to me.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:00, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
* Animated ones are fine. Just limit one image per sig, and limit size (maybe something from 20 to 30 pixels). {{User:Rainer/sig}} 13:15, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

===Remove sup/sub===
*Agree. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*Don't mind. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
*They interfere with above/below text. Remove. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:54, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
**What browser are you using? My sig doesn't affect line spacing for me... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:46, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
***It isn't necessarily that the line spacing is affected, just that they crowd the line above or below. At least, that's how they show up on mine. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
****Actually, on mine, Phlip, I use [http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/safari.html Safari], and to me the spacing in this <nowiki><h3></nowiki> is normal except for the line where your sig is. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:09, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
*****Could you look at [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=179011 this] (permanant link to the current Sandbox, since it could very well change soon) to see which lines have the spacing messed up? Are the ones faked with ok? If they are, I'll change my sig to use them instead... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:29, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
******I seriously don't see anything wrong with them. We should have a limit to the number of characters in the tags though. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:39, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
******Every line in that example sandbox page has extra padding either above or below in Firefox. What browser are you using Phlip? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:08, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
*******Firefox. And they all look fine to me (well, if you're being picky, there's maybe 1px here or there, but nothing that you'd notice in flowing text... and some of that is probably rounding errors anyway...[http://members.lycos.co.uk/phlipping/subsup.png]) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:02, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
********All the line spacing looks (mostly) uniform to me. My point earlier was not that the spacing is messed up by the sup/sub, but that the sub from one line often collides with the sup from another. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*Sups and subs don't bother me at all. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:00, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. Allow sups and subs. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:39, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

===Colors===
*Do not prohibit. Neutral about whether there should be a limit on the number of colors. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*Limit to 3 or 4 colors. differant tones of the same color (i.e. dark green and light green) count as one color. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
*Colors should clearly contrast with the white background. (i.e. Bright yellow should not be allowed) — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:54, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
*No limit on colors unless signature is unreadable on white. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:54, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
**Speaking of that, some people have tried using backgrounds other than white. We should insist on white backgrounds with no borders. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
***I agree. Before you (or someone) interfered, [[User:GWR 2004]]'s signature was a bit out of hand with borders. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:09, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
**No borders, no special backgrounds, no unreadable or otherwise annoying colors. Other than that, I'm fine with them. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:00, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
*Do not prohibit, but no annoying colours. If someone feels that the colours in someone's sig are annoying, they can advise that person on their user talk page. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:40, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
**Just what constitutes an annoying color? Out of the limited number of hex codes to create a color, how many of them are annoying? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:40, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
***The most annoying color (really, the only one I've ever seen) is bright yellow, which is all but completely unreadable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
****Heh, that used to be my color. But yea, I agree. It shouldn't be a problem too often, and I'm sure if it ever does come up that one user wants a near unreadable color, a comprimise can be reached. But I would limit it to no more than 3 color '''changes''' in a sig, regardless of whether it's the same or not. eg: red, blue, green would be allowed, but red, blue, red, blue, green, red, green, blue would not. The rainbow sigs are flashy and childish, IMO. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:41, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Allow any color so long as it does not pose a [http://juicystudio.com/services/colourcontrast.php usability issue]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

===Length restrictions===
*Need to find a way to calculate how much is too much. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
*No longer than the number of characters in the entire user name, plus a few. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:54, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
::This is the problem. how many is a few? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:59, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I personally think Lapper's is the perfect maximum length after the user name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

::::I'd say a good standard to use would be the length of a timestamp. I count 29 characters there. Maybe a little shorter would work. 20 or 25 maybe?.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:11, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Also, see [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages#Customizing your signature]] for some ideas.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:13, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::There's also the problem with people using large fonts to make their sig much wider than it should be with only their name. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:55, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

::::I agree with Tom on that one. 20 characters should be the absolute longest. Besides, usernames themselves longer than 20 characters are somewhat rediculous. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:09, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::I don't think we should measure any length restriction in characters, rather in pixels on a "normal" display. This is because (1) the fonts are proportional (2) someone can always use <tt>style="font-size:10000%"</tt> or something, (3) this will also take into acount the image icon thingies. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:40, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
* The fanstuff uses ''Username + 6 large characters or 12 small characters'', images counting as large characters. That works for me. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:00, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
**Yep, the rules regarding sig lengths (which was the main reason why those rules were introduced to the fanstuff wiki, because some sigs were a whole line) at the fanstuff wiki should work fine here. Also, text larger than "normal" size (the default size that the wiki uses) should be the limit of how big you can have the text in your sig. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:39, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
*Some of these sigs are three and four times the length of the user's name. I propose that an entire signature—''including the name, image, and links (if any)''—should fit into a box 20 x 160 pixels under normal settings: [[Image:sigbox.png|suggested signature size]] (20 ''n''<nowiki></nowiki>'s will fit in that box, but you can fit upwards of 25 normal-size letters, spaces, and other characters, depending on certain things). I started measuring signatures on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page, and nearly everybody's fits into it. I think if a name is so long that you can't put a talk link after it and still fit it in the box, then maybe you should omit the link. Or if someone's trying to fit "(talk about my stuff • all the things I did)," but it won't fit, reduce it to "(talk • edits)." Using <nowiki></nowiki> is also an option, as long as it's not ''too'' small. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
**No one has posted to this discussion in a little bit, so I thought I would bring it up again. Here is an image of [[:Image:allsigs.png|all the current signatures]]. You probably will need to click on the image to enlarge it. The gray line is my suggested width of 160px. I don't think going over the line just a few pixels is that bad, but on the other hand some of them are quite long. Check out the one near the bottom. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
***Wow, thanks for the image, dot com. That's very helpful. I mentioned this in IRC yesterday, but I'll say it here so everyone else can hear it. I really think 25 n's would be better. Somewhere around 200px. That includes a few more people that are straying outside of 160px, while still giving no excuse for the really long folks. I just don't want anyone to accuse us of being unreasonable. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:41, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

===Make it official?===
So... is this debate ongoing, or can some official sig standards be written and added to the page now? Recently I was trying to find such standards for a user with a long sig and couldn't; Rogue Leader finally directed the user to this talk page. If we ''have'' "standards," they shouldn't be on a talk page, should they? And if we're delaying because it's still under discussion than... let's build a fire under it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:04, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I got a fancy signature ([[User:Nerd42/sig]] I would like to be able to use. I've put it on all the wikis that I am a member of that allow signatures. I'd be for the No Images policy, but I don't see why colors should be a problem. Length - well, as you can see from mine, I'm not that concerned '''''LOL''''' but if it takes up more than one line on a page, that would be a huge problem. Other than that, I don't see why people think they have to regulate everything ... I think any such policy ought to be worded using phrases like "within reason" and if someone's signature actually becomes disruptive to the site, then admins could deal with that on a case-by-case basis, don't you think? --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 18:30, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

:Even if we did have a "within reason" policy, I think your [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Nerd42/sig&oldid=231360 current sig] would be one of the ones that we would deem disruptive and would deal with. Also, it looks like [[User:Thunderbird L17]] is currently dealing with it on what I would call a case-by-case basis on your talk page. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:02, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

::Alright, I think it's gone on long enough, that we can make a final version. I've left a rough suggested final version below, for anybody to edit, until it's ready to be put into motion. Should we explain how to template your sig? Also wording could be made more professional, and the size point should be clarified, as it seems as though the size was never decided upon. Should it perhaps be made a bit bigger? I also added a suggested point that wasn't really discussed at all, but specifically with [[User:Tampo/Holiday Sigs|pages like this]], I think it could become a problem in the near future. So what does everybody think? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:30, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

===Signatures (Final Version)===

''See [[HRWiki:Signature]] for the current signature standards.''

: 
:One thing I think we might want to do is put somewhere, maybe [[Help:Signature]] or whatever, is that using [[Special:Preferences]] and changing the "Nickname" field to what you want your sig to be is much more preferred than using the a template. Then again, I know many people do not want to look at three lines worth of code for someone's sig whenever they click "edit" on a talk page. I suppose we're a bit late for that though, with such widespread use.
:Additionally, creating a template sig is not something a new user should be instructed to do as soon as they join. It most cases, it's not necessary to use a template. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:33, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
::That's true. As long as it's a somewhat small code, you may as well stick to the usual box. The one problem with that is for users such as [[User:JoeyDay|this one]], who like their signature to be uniformed, and yet also changable, which is quite understandable. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:41, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks, Tom; yes, we should make it clear that it's perfectly alright ''not'' to make a custom sig at all; that'll probably head off a lot of problems at the pass. A few thoughts:
:::#What's up with the limitation on sig changes? I can imagine it could get confusing, and hard to recognize people once you've gotten used to a certain sig configuration, but I can't really think of any other detrimental effects. At least, I can't think of any reason not to say "shouldn't be frequent" instead of "only once or twice a year".
:::#What constitutes a "distracting" but non-animated image? Might be good to spell out.
:::#There's already step-by-step directions for ''how'' to implement a custom sig at [[Help:Signature]]; this should link to there and—especially—vice versa! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:48, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

::::#You pretty much spelled out the problems yourself. It became a big enough problem over at the Forum to require change locking. We don't want the same thing to happen here.
::::#We can't list every possible image that would apply, but it's safe to say that if such an image exists, a user will come up with it. By saying "no distracting images", it leaves it open to our judgement just what abuses the privilages. In general though, I'm sure most will be allowed.
::::#We're still discussing that, we'll most likely change that page and link to this, line them all up, etc, once these standards are done and ready to implement.
::::Hope that answers your questions, Abdi. Viklas. notstrongorbad. Watered down. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:58, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::I changed it from "one or two" to "a couple", which is about the same except with a little more wiggle room. When I was talking about "distracting", I was actually trying to leave room for a non-distracting ''animated'' image while giving a justification for asking someone to remove their distracting animated image. But I suppose there could be a distracting static image, too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:41, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

::::::One last thing: Should the examples with the arrows be reversed? Or is that just me? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:47, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::It's not just you. I think it makes more sense reversing them from what they are now. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:51, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::'''These standards were implemented and moved to ''[[HRWiki:Signature]]'' at 22:09, 14 January 2006 (UTC)''' {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:09, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::The nicknames and usernames should not have been switched: "If you use a shortened or altered form of your official name, it must be something that suggests your username." ''Dot com'' must suggest ''It's dot com'', not the other way around. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:19, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

''Please post any further discussion on this subject on [[HRWiki talk:Signature]].''

== Transcript Question ==

Why do we script Homestar as 'Homestar Runner' in transcripts? I mean all the characters and the creators refer to him as just Homestar, shouldn't we treat 'Runner' as like a last name and just call him Homestar? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
:Simply because '''Homestar Runner''' is his full name. It's just proper. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 17:12, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
::And quite a bit of the time in running text we will say "Homestar Runner" on first mention and then "Homestar" thereafter. The only place we spell it out every time is the label when he's speaking dialogue. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:17, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Plus, TBC get kinda capricious about last names. By the above argument, Strong Bad should just be Strong, but we've never heard that. Marzipan ''has'' been referred to as "Miss Pan," but the Poopsmith has never (thankfully) been "Mr. Smith." This has helped lead to the current discrepency in [[The Ugly One]]'s name; according to [[comic]] she'd have to be Joy, Jennifer, or Virginia, but a logical extension of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|Issue 10]] would imply that it's "The." None of it's written in stone. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:53, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Maybe the girls' names are Joy Cheerleader, Kristen So and So, Jennifer What's Her Face, and Virginia The Ugly One. Mrs. So and So-erson's maiden name was Erson, and she has chosen to hypenate upon marrying Mr. So and So. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:29, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::Also, I think Strong Bad's given name is Bad, and he would be rightly called Mr. Strong in that case. Since the Brothers Strong share the name Strong, it's only reasonable that Strong is their surname. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:31, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::Yup. (Maybe they're Asian!) But he doesn't correct the interviewer who calls him "Mr. Bad" in the [[Screen_Savers_Interview_-_24_Jan_2005|Screen Savers Interview]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:52, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Not all that different from a kid calling a camp counselor Mr. Joe (Dr. Joe), Mr. Smiley (ran our college cafeteria) or even Mr. Ed. :) Ok so college students count as kids, right? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:15, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Why do I fell like I opened a Pandora's Box? Anyway so what if it's his full name. In the DVD transcript we don't call the creators Mike Chapman and Matt Chapman we just call them Mike and Matt how is Homestar different [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
:::::::::By the way, we are [[Puppets on the Road|inconsistent]] on this last point. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:18, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::Also, it's a convention of Southern etiquette (with roots in slavery) that the "Mr./Miss [first name]" construction is perfectly polite. You run into it every now and then with the [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0279778/ Ya-Ya Sisterhood] types, Southern belles on Celebrex. As Georgians, the phenomenon is probably not foreign to TBC's experience. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:39, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

== Make decisions on the wiki ==

''The following discussion was from a talk page for a now deleted template. It has been copied here because it illustrates an important point: namely, if you make an important decision outside the wiki (for example, in the IRC channel), you must have the same discussion on the wiki so that everyone may participate, and no formal action should be taken until that happens.''

When was this article [the "Powered by The Cheat" template] voted on deletion? I tried looking around but found no discussion (and I don't remember voting for it in the Basement either (er where can I link to that too?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

:It hasn't ever been voted for deletion, as it was created just recently. The question is, should it? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:42, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

:Well, stux, the discussion was on the IRC channel of the wiki. It included: Lapper, BazookaJoe, Rogue Leader, FireBird and myself. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:44, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::We're thinking just like the Toons, Shorts, and OldTimey templates were deleted, so should this be. People can just navigate through the [[:Category:Powered by The Cheat|category]] and the [[Powered by The Cheat|article itself]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:02, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::Oh. Is it possible that you could post a transcript of said discussion? While I agree that the IRC channel is a great place for discussion, making decisions such as these should not be considered final in that medium for users (like me) that do not frequent the channel. (It also does not have the permanence that a [[da_basement#Template_Overload|talk page]] has which can be later referenced to.) That way the entire Wiki community is given a decent chance to contribute. As for deletion, I am not sure, this template is not as general as the other two. Like my opinion for [[Old-Timey|old timey]] it could be cleaned up. I really have mixed feelings about it. In general, I think templates like these make navigating through themes a lot easier than going through categories (such as the main characters), provided they are not overboard. Newer, shorter templates that replace the deleted ones might prove to be useful. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:30, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

:::That's why I haven't deleted it yet. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:47, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::Stux, the idea of deletion was agreed upon by 5 respected users. We have been using the categories for a long time. Why stop now. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:45, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Here is the transcript form the chat:
<blockquote>
<BazookaJoe`> I was going to fix <nowiki>{{PbtC}}</nowiki> 
<BazookaJoe`> Crap, should we even keep <nowiki>{{PbtC}}</nowiki>? 
<FireBird> Not if we've gotten rid of <nowiki>{{shorts}}</nowiki>. 
<Elcool> and <nowiki>{{toons}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{Old-Timey))</nowiki> 
<BazookaJoe`> sigh... 
<BazookaJoe`> Then I won't fix it up. 
<BazookaJoe`> We'll throw it onto the pile. 
<FireBird> Aww. 
<Lapper> how's that? 
<Lapper> Guys? 
<BazookaJoe`> I think I'm just going to delete <nowiki>{{pbtc}}</nowiki> outright. 
<BazookaJoe`> But... eh, some people might like it. 
<BazookaJoe`> no, they won't 
<BazookaJoe`> here I am going back and forth on this one. 
<Rogue_Leader> please delete Toons, old timey, and shorts though 
<Elcool> just let me get the code first. ok? 
<BazookaJoe`> Will do. 
<FireBird>Elcool: If nobody likes the delete, we can always back it up. 
<BazookaJoe`> are <nowiki>{{toons}}</nowiki>, <nowiki>{{shorts}}</nowiki>, and <nowiki>{{Old-Timey}}</nowiki> deleted yet? if not, can you tell me when you've put the code up on /templates? 
<Rogue_Leader> they arent 
<Rogue_Leader> I think Elcool already transfered the code 
<Elcool> yeah. 
<Elcool> everything is cool 
<BazookaJoe`> Okay. No one needs the templates anymore, then? 
<Lapper> So are all the templates declined in voting going down? 
<Lapper> Yeah, Elcool just backed up <nowiki>{{pbtc}}</nowiki>. 
<Rogue_Leader> yeah 
<Rogue_Leader> Two temps still need voting on 
</blockquote>
{{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:55, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:One thing I seriously dislike about that conversation is that 4 people think that they represent the opinions of the entire wiki. One person saying that, "No they [the entire wiki] won't [like it]," is not considered a consensus. Also, why was every instance of this template removed, even when it is still ''pending'' deletion? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::For the same reason a fun fact is removed (even if it's a good one) if it's on STUFF. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:03, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::First of all, thank you for posting a copy of your transcript and for not deleting the template outright. However, with all due respect, I must agree with Kookyman's comment. The deletion was not voted inside the wiki, but rather in a forum outside the wiki. Not all of the usual contributors has chimed in on this deletion (even if it's similar to the previous deltions) -- this is not the same situation, in my opinion, as when STUFF'd items are closed and subsequently deleted. Moreover, Kookyman makes a good point: the template has been removed from all the articles it served before what I believe to be a proper consensus was reached. Not that creating the template in the first place was a consensus, but it was done in good faith, to serve a good purpose. I assume this deletion was also done in good faith, and to serve a good purpose, but I think this has to be finalized through the proper channels that have already been established in this wiki. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:14, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I agree that the IRC wasn't the best place to discuss this, but we wanted a consensus upon it before we put up the tags. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 21:24, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Two noteworthy things here: First, anytime you have an extrawiki discussion where you make a decision—chat, email, phone call, ''wherever''—you ''must'' go to the appropriate talk page and have the same discussion, to allow everyone to participate. And that's all I have to say about that. Second, I don't see what benefit this template would give that would justify keeping it. It's basically just a rehash of the category, and the pages it contains just share that one loose thread. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:We are not denying that what we did is right. We were just discussing about the wiki and we believed that the template was useless. We were not going to out right delete it. We were simply going to put up the tags to see if anyone would mind. Please note that we do not have it put up for speedy delete. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 21:49, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'm not saying anybody's denying anything. Since most of this page has been about the procedure instead of whether this template should be deleted or not, I felt it important to comment first on that. That's all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:58, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Ok. Now, about the template. We have a category. We don't need an extention on that. We seriously need a standard on templates. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 21:59, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
::::A good guideline would be that templates are made to order lists in non-alphabetical order, while categories can do only that. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 22:02, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::Or to exclude parts of the category. The strongbad_email.exe template only needs the different discs, but the category includes much more than that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:20, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::I like that idea very much! Kind of what I was thinking (sorta) -- like have this template have "powered by the cheat" items only (a.k.a. those under the powered by the cheat button), and the old timey could've had only their main characters. That way people would be looking at, say old-timey homestar (or fhqwa.. oh I won't even try!) and then think "oh i wanna look at old timey strong bad!" and have to click once on the template to get there without having to go through the category or the old timey page itself. (We web surfers are a lazy bunch ain't we!?) For more involved things (a.k.a minor items/characters/details), they can use the category of course! I figured it would be defined as a convenient complement, not a replacement, to the category system (as it already has served itself to be). Not only that, it's good looking too! (Wow, my messages are only getting longer and longer.) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:45, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::It would already be linked there. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:51, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::It would already be linked where? you mean the page, or the category? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:54, 23 October 2005 (UTC).
The page. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:55, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
:Oh, I checked it out and noticed that that may not always be the case. For example old timey [[The_Homestar_Runner|Homestar]] doesn't link to old timey [[Old-Timey Strong Bad|stwong baad]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:10, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
::That is sad. But I do not think that we need another template for old timey characters. Or am I reading this incorrectly? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:11, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
::Maybe so, but it ''does'' link to [[:Category:Old-Timey Characters]], which links to way more information that you'd want to put on a template. Which is the point, I believe. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:40, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
:::True. Very true. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:42, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Rogue, What do you refer to by "that is sad"? And yes, it is the point, I am trying to play devil's advocate here a little. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:09, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::That there is no link on the page to Strong Bad. Ok, this is not the place to discuss templates. Let us focus on this template. I doubt the usefulness of this. If this is kept, and I think that is a big if, this will need some huge cleaning. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:15, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::You could always just take off the "Somewhat PbtC" listing.
:::::::You really just have to look at the category and you will see all of these links. Even Somewhat PBTC. This is really not needed. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:22, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::I still have mixed feelings about the template. My question is: is Powered by the Cheat important enough to merit a table to facilitate navigation (much in the same way Main Characters, Limozeen and Decemberween do)? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:14, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::I think the problam here, that there is no connection to all the toons, exept for the fact the The Cheat made them. not lie Cheat commandos or Strong Bad Emails. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:19, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::I beg to differ. They have their own section in the toons menu, and share many characteristics that reflect The Cheat's personality as presented in its description page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:24, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
No, Elcool is right. There is a huge differfence between New Boots and mile. The only thing that it shows that relates to the chorts personality is that he has a huge ego. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:37, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
:That is fine. I don't see the differences as big as you do, and I seem to be the only one that thinks as such. They have been deemed big enough that this merits removal, so by all means, go ahead. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:24, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

==Guestbooks==
''Moved to [[HRWiki:Guestbooks]]''

== deletion policy? ==

Who decides what gets deleted and when around here? Most wikis have deletion policies. This one just seems to have a template ... but that's it. If admins are just going to [[DELETED]] stuff without votes, why have the template in the first place? --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 00:10, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:There is a vote. People post why or why not it should be kept on the talk page, if it's valid enough. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::And then after around a week or two, a qualified admin will look at all of the arguments, see what the general consensus is, and take appropriate action, either by removing the tempate or deleting the page. [[Talk:Pasta Salad|these]] [[Talk:The Strongs' Capsela|two]] are good examples of heated discussion between deletion and acceptance of a page, that was finally accepted. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:20, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:::seems pretty subjective to me. this is the most up-tight wiki I've ever seen, and I've seen [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nerd42 quite a few]. --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 00:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
::::FYI, The '''Timeline''' article has been restored as dicussion has not yet concluded. It had been removed [[User_talk:FireBird#Timeline|by accident]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:51, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Cheat Noises ==

I'm not really sure where to put this, but here goes. There should be a standard term for Cheat noises. Are they squeaks? Cheat noises? The Cheat noises? I've seen these and maybe more on this site. What I'm basically saying is that is should be consistent. I'm against calling them squeaks (they're not shrill enough), though an onomatopoea would be helpful. Often, it's a "meh" or "nmeweh." The closest he gets to squeaking is when he blows up or flies (like when Strong Mad throws him in Happy Fireworks), though that's more like a "mweeeeeeeee...." Okay, I'm starting to feel like Clancy. I don't care, just get his noises a name. [[User:Uh...Cwapface|Uh...Cwapface]] 05:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:That's a good point. From what I've seen, "The Cheat noises" is the most common thing, and it seems like the best choice to me, because it covers the gamut of sounds he makes. That's what I would propose. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:23, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::The [[HRWiki:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]] says to write ''{The Cheat noises}'', and it also says "more can be added to the stage directions to indicate emotion or other actions" (so ''{angry The Cheat noises}'' is acceptable.) Granted, I wrote that rule, but it's still good to have a standard. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:32, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::PS. This very same discussion (dated in October) is seen above, although the Manual of Style had no such recommendation at the time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:33, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Ah, so we already have a standard for it. Then we can implement it. Oh, and by the way, I think this discussion's topic is slightly different from the one above, which seemed to concern the issue of putting words in The Cheat's mouth. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:42, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::: Okay, fair point. But, yes, we do technically have a standard. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:44, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::However I have to point out that The Brothers Chaps have remarked that they always record new The Cheat noises in nearly every cartoon. Therefore in some special cases, what The Cheat is trying to say is understandable, in some cases obvious. When that happens then that can also be noted. one example is [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig#Easter Eggs|here]], look at the last Easter Egg of the list. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::In that case, yes, because it's a reference. But, for the most part, where does the line get drawn. I've seen cases where some people would hear The Cheat noises and thing Teh C. was saying one thing, while others would swear he was saying some other thing, while yet others wouldn't hear any English at all. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Perhaps create STCTCN (Select The Correct The Cheat Noise)? I dunno, I'm going to bed. When you start understanding The Cheat, you know you've been around H*R too much. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Debuts ==

See, everyone's been telling me only Characters have Debut noted. What else goes on the list? What's off the list? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:57, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:I don't see why places can't have debuts, and I've seen many articles that support this. Actually, however, I'm not sure why we list debuts at all. The lists are in chronological order. Wouldn't the first toon in the list be the debut by definition? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:12, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::True, but by marking '''Debut''', not only do we clearly show that it ''is'' a chronological list, but we show wheather it goes oldest to newest, or newest to oldest. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:19, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Adding that our [[HRWiki:Manual of Style#Miscellaneous|Manual of Style]] currently says to indicate debut if it is "a character, place, or item". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:39, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== Other standards ==

This page of standards describe how should a toon be formatted, but what about other pages? We need a page instructing users to use mdashes on lists, how to caption an images correctly, how to format songs and visuals page, etc. This is so that if a user makes a mistake, we can reffer him or her to the right page for more info. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:52, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

:Good idea. It could probably be added to [[HRWiki:Manual of Style]]. (See [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style]] for ideas on expanding.) -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:03, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

== When TBC fix things ==

I think we need to give TBC credit when they fix things. (And who knows, maybe they fix things by reading the wiki.) It seems petty to forever point something out as being wrong when they have taken the time to correct it. There are two test cases: [[candy product#Fixed Goofs|candy product → Fixed Goofs]] and [[Podstar Runner#Fixed Glitches|Podstar Runner → Fixed Glitches]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:28, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, good point. And [[Random Toon]] also had some good fixes. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:22, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

== Notable Flash artifacts ==

''See [[Talk:Luau Main Page]]''

== "Waiting eggs" Redux ==

It seems whenever this comes up that the issue usually gets glossed over... after seeing recent edits about this on [[Easter egg]] I thought I'd bring it up again...

Events that occur after a pause after The Paper comes down are considered Easter eggs by TBC. They call them "[[theme park#Commentary Transcript|waiting eggs]]". They are every bit as hidden as the clicking eggs – I know I personally only found out about them by leaving [[the process]] running for a bit longer while I did other things, and heard Strong Bad start talking again. Just because they're hidden behind a pause instead of a mouseclick means nothing. I'd wager many people will click the "back" link as soon as it appears and the movement stops, and be none the wiser. Also, we consider [[Secret Song]] to be an Easter Egg, and few people would disagree – however it is arguably ''more'' noticable than other waiting eggs, because at least you can see the "Play" light is still lit on your CD player, whereas in an email it looks exactly like it has finished when it reaches the waiting egg.

As for what Strong Bad says in [[bottom 10]], it can be taken either way – either he's saying that waiting eggs aren't real Easter eggs, or ''it's a joke'' of having him say there's no Easter eggs ''in an Easter egg''.

As for how to transcribe them... I do believe that it reads better to have the waiting eggs at the bottom of the transcript, rather than in the ==Easter Eggs== section. However, for the purposes of fun facts (such as [[property of ones]] being the last egg-free email) they should be considered Easter eggs, and if moving the transcripts into the ==Easter Eggs== section would alleviate confusion then so be it.

If there's no real discussion, and no reasons why we shouldn't consider them Easter eggs, I'll go through and make the requisite changes myself... I'm sick of there being all talk and no action. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:37, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:For it to be an egg, it would need to be a ''noticeable'' pause. For example, if Strong Bad says something immediately after the paper, with no pause or the slightest of pauses, that should not be considered hidden. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:59, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::So things like the IM conversation at the end of [[i she be]] would not be considered an Easter egg. I agree with that, because it's almost impossible ''not'' to notice the scene changing to The Cheat's computer room. However, I also think that things like [[the process]], [[bottom 10]], [[theme park]] and [[boring (really)]] ''should'' be considered Easter eggs, as for many people, they are just as hard to find as clicking Easter eggs, and possibly even harder. I mean, who leaves the toon on for 15 seconds, expecting something to happen while they wait? Before I knew about the Wiki, I know I sure didn't. To make a long story short, I agree with all of Phlip's points, and the fact that TBC themselves refer to them as Easter eggs should, in my mind, make this decision a no-brainer. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 15:12, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:::I have thought that waiting eggs should be considered true Easter eggs [[HRWiki:Da_Basement/Archive_2#Easter_Egg_Inconsistancy|for over six months now]]. If we don't want to move the transcripts to the Easter egg sections, we should at least make a "see waiting egg above" note or something. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

::::I also think that leaving the waiting eggs in the transcripts is a bit easier to read. I'd also support the "see waiting egg above" note if we decided to go with that. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::So, does this sound good?<blockquote>Things that happen if you wait awhile after the toon has "ended" should be transcribed at the end of the transcript, with a brief mention in the Easter eggs section reading "This toon/email/etc has a "waiting egg", see the Transcript for details."</blockquote>{{User:Phlip/sig}} 18:08, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::Sounds good to me. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::It guess it's a decent compromise, but I'd personally prefer it to be treated like a normal egg. I'm not going to throw a fit or anything though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I'm fine with it. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I added the following to [[anything]].<blockquote>
*Wait after The Paper comes down for more comments from Homestar (see transcript above).</blockquote>
Is this a good way (format-wise) to do it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:A great question no one's answered. An egg is something discovered by not doing the usual, right? So (as I said above) if the extra bit comes on the heels of the Paper, it's not an egg. But if there's a noticeable delay, it is an egg. If it's not an egg, put it in the transcript. proper. If it is an egg, add it to Easter eggs saying, for example, "If you wait after The Paper comes down, Strong Bad...." Keep it simple. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Email classes ==

So, if there's no class .lappy or class .compy, why are they routinely used in the toons? Thinking forward to the future (a point to which thinking forward is best), when a new computer arrives would we be better served keeping the classes "lappy" and "compy" in the mix, so that a vastly different email format will be more easily accomodated? I was going to add a note (a note!) saying "'''Note:''' while "compy email" and "lappy email" are commonly used in transcripts in place of "email", they currently do not affect the rendering of the page." but thought we should decide whether we want to discourage their use or encourage their use in transcripts, based on the thoughts above. The classes are useless, but may at some time be semantically relevant; and as most users are ignorant of CSS, it might be wise to encourage their inclusion, as there is no harm in it, and it may make future transitons easier. Should this note continue "They should be avoided" or "These should be used, however, to ensure forward ease in accomodating changes to the email format."?{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

:How about something short and simple along the lines of "Please use the classes "compy email" and "lappy email" to ensure future compatibility".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

::My original wording is [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Standards&diff=prev&oldid=356886 here]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:06, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:::I like your original wording :-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:09, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Camera moves in transcripts ==

I suggest we add to Standards for transcripts that "camera" moves are to be transcribed according to established standards.

Camera actually moves:

:TRUCK - camera trucks left or right
:BOOM - camera booms up or down
:DOLLY - camera dollys toward or away

Camera does not move, but the angle or closeness of focus does:

:PAN - camera pans left or right
:TILT - camera tilts up or down
:ZOOM - camera zooms toward or away

Sometimes (esp with dolly and zoom) it's hard to tell which is which. But we should be as precise as possible if we're going to describe the visual action. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, it is hard to tell, and it would be the source of much heated (and moot) debate. Technically, there is no difference between scene or camera movement in a flash cartoon anyway. We should just go with pan, tilt, zoom.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

::I'm glad you agree there should be a standard, but there are distinctions. For example, in [[Sbemail 150?!?]] when the scene changes from the computer room to the basement,. that's clearly not a tilt, that's a boom. Similarly, a pan and a truck differ because the former shows us a circular path, the latter a straight path. It's really only dolly and zoom that are confusing. If the range is great, it's a dolly. (As when one goes from a tight shot to an extrem,ely long shot: that's probably a dolly.) My point is we should encourage accurate terminology in describing what happens, and use the terminology that exists in the film industry. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:13, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:::I like this. I agree with being as precise as practical (not necessarily as precise as ''possible''). That is, if we can tell it's a truck and not a pan, then of course we should note it as such, but we shouldn't fight over the close calls. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:::[edit conflict] Yes, in the meantime, I did notice that I got the terminology wrong. Part of my problem was that "panning" in a 2D environment (for example flash) is basically equivalent to truck/boom. Without the motion parallax of course. Somehow I doubt that it will be easy to apply conventional camera movement terms to Homestar Runner flash. The lack of perspective (is there any actual instance of PAN in any toon?), the artificial motion parallax... I'm not sure about this. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:23, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Dot com: I agree, my "precise as possible" is the same as your "precise as practical". Loafing: if it's on the short range, as is normal, stationary camera moves are sufficient, as that's simpler. When it's a clear truck (over a large area, where a pan is not possible) then we say so. But yes, we'd assume the cameral is stationary unless it has to move, so pan, tilt and zoom are the default unless we have evidence it's a truck, boom or dolly. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:28, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I see where you're coming from, but I'm not yet buying it. Your suggestion is basically to say "In real life, they would have used this camera transition in this case", while they obviously did not use that camera transition in the actual toon. For example, a real camera pan (even a short one) does not preserve horizontal lines. A short camera movement to the side in an H*R flash toon usually *does* preserve horizontal lines. On the other hand, a short camera movement in a toon might actually be a simulation of a real camera pan. Errrmmm... I'm'a gonna go ahead and sleep on it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::More precisely, what I'm saying is that when we're talking about a little move, it's not discernable whether it's a pan or dolly, or a tilt or boom. So we assume it's the simplest - a pan or a tilt. Only when we see evidence that it CANNOT be a pan or a tilt do we describe it as a truck or a boom. Again, [[Sbemail 150?!?]] is an example of where you cannot call it a tilt, so it must be a boom. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:59, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Cast list formatting ==

Hey, check out the '''Cast''' section for [[A Decemberween Pageant]] ! That's pretty spiffy lookin'! But... it doesn't really fit in with the rest of the Wiki style. I was thinking of reverting it to make it more uniform, but it's just so darn purty... and neat... and grood looking. So, um, do you think it'd be okay to endeavor to adopt this style for the entire Wiki? Or are we just too used to the original style? [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 00:27, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
:If you reverted it, you would be undoing a change that was made {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=A_Decemberween_Pageant&diff=next&oldid=19268 over two years ago}}, and {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=A_Decemberween_Pageant&oldid=19268 the way it looked before}} was pretty shabby. Therefore I don't think you should change it back. As for changing the whole wiki to match, meh, I'm currently okay with it just being a special case. On the other hand, it might look good on other toons too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
::Okay! That's fair enough! So, if I come across a page with a long cast list, I'ma go ahead and change it to this style... But I'll at least wait a while and see if anyone objects to this first. [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 01:44, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Awwiiiiight! I'm going to change up the Dangeresque 3 cast stuff riiiiight... abooooouuuuut...NOW! [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 21:43, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
::::I agree with Dot Com, The way we do it works well for most toons, but I think any toon where a character is playing another role is an option for the bulleted style. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 21:52, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::Definitely! I won't touch anything else! But I did change up 2 Dangeresque cast lists. [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 21:58, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::I concur with Ilko. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 21:59, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

== Split the Standards ==

The way I see this page now, it is divided to two large, unrelated sections: How to act on the wiki (Link once, be bold, etc.) and how to actually format a toon's page (what goes where, how to make fun facts, etc.). For the sake of argument, before any change is made, I will call these parts Standards A and Standards B, respectively. 
What I propose is to make a new page called HRWiki:Policies which will have two sections with links. The first part will be with links to all the working-of-the-wiki policy pages (Guestbooks, Signature, User space, etc.) currently only found in [[:Category:HRWiki Policy]] which linked from [[HRWiki:The Stick]] as well as Standards A. 
The second part of the page will link to all the editing standards found is the policy category (Manual of Style, Once And Only Once, Cleanup, etc.) as well as Standards B. Another thing I want to see in this part is (new redlinked) a list on how to format a list, a table, a character page and so on. Now, every page creator takes liberty on the formating of his page and it is rarely changed to fit a common styling. 
Please share your opinions. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:32, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with the gist of what you're saying. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
::Me too. If I'm getting this correctly, you're pretty much proposing a big crossroads page where a confused user can look to find what they should do to solve whatever problem they're having. This page would really make Policy articles easier to find, such as [[HRWiki:Deletion Policy|this one]]. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 17:33, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:::You got my vote, I think it's a [[HRWiki:Policies|great]] idea! Also, I'd like to point out that this very page has elements of both parts (though mostly editing). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:45, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

== Choice of screenshot ==

I think we should make the following an official standard: "Never place anything, especially a screenshot, on the main page that would be a spoiler for someone who hasn't seen the newest toon. When choosing a screenshot for the top of the toon article itself, choose a representative image that can be seen while watching the toon straight through (not from an Easter egg)." We can be a little more relaxed with the article than the main page because someone should be expected not to look at the article before watching the toon, but the main page itself should never contain spoilers. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, that's important. Sometimes it's tough to know what people would consider a spoiler (e.g., would people consider [[:Image:Sbemail166.png|this]] to be a spoiler for [[unnatural]]?), but a general rule of thumb might be to pick something representative from the first few scenes (before the plot thickens). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
::As a matter of fact, I found that exact image to be a spoiler (at least as far as the main page goes) and {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template%3Awhatsnew&diff=414013&oldid=413555 replaced it accordingly}}. (Interestingly, TBC chose the same scene as I did for their [[HR:menuswfs/menu_sbemail166.swf|preview image]]—which wasn't released until the following week.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:59, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

:::90%  of the previews in the toons menu are non spoilers. How about we use them from now on? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh, I don't think we need to always match the preview image. Often what we choose works just fine. I'm just saying avoiding main page spoilers is something to put on the standards page, since it's already an unofficial policy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

:::::Yeah — these things are good to have in writing, for us to refer back to when analyzing whether an image is too spoileriffic, as well as for new people that come along and upload images. I know I've uploaded at least a couple images for the main page that were in retrospect spoilers, just because I thought they were visually interesting. There are enough people that get upset or disappointed by having seen a revealing image that we should definitely make it official policy. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

::::::I was thinking, perhaps we should just have a default image for a certain update. By that I mean, for every new Strong Bad email, we would have a snippet of Strong Bad typing at his Lappy, for TGS, the cover page that reads "Teen Girl Squad!", etc. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 07:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

the chair

Rogue Leader — Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:27:22 GMT

Rogue Leader: Or it could refer to nothing...

{{sbenav|162|4 branches|what I want}}
[[Image:Sbemail162.png|thumb|"Whoa, it's been upgraded to Stank..."]]

Strong Bad decides to get a new chair. Bubs offers some suggestions.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, [[Stooly]], {{film|Bubs}}, [[Lil' Strong Bad]], {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Sad}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Strong Sad's Room]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' December 4, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:57

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' A-just scrape some email off the top, and I'll help you out toniiiight!

<blockquote class="lappy email"><div>subject: the chair.</div>
D to the ear Strong Bad, That chair you're sitting on doesnt look very comfortable. When are you going to get a new, less hardwood, big, office manager-style comfy computer chair? Yours truely, Keith, PA</blockquote>

''{pronounces "D to the ear" as "Duh to the ear", "doesnt" as "dohs-n-t" (with extra emphasis at the end of the word), and "truely" as "treh-leh", and reads "Keith, PA" as "Keith and Pa"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh! It's a father-son email picnic! ''{typing}'' Y to the ou ''{pronounced "Yeah to the oo"}'' don't know ''what'' you're talkin' about, Pakeithpsy. Stooly here is a tush-cheek's dream. So cottony squish and pillowy fresh. Take a look-see!

''{Zoom out to show Strong Bad leaping off of the stool. The seat is filthy, and has the word "STANK" seeping out of it at various spots.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, it's been upgraded to Stank...

''{A face fades onto the seat of the stool and coughs.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Eeew... Maybe it ''is'' time for a re-imagining of my email-checkin' chair...

'''STOOLY:''' ''{coughs again}'' I just need a lozenge...

''{Cut to Strong Bad standing outside Bubs' Concession Stand, with the camera centered behind Bubs.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Bubs!

'''BUBS:''' Hey, customer!

'''STRONG BAD:''' What do you got in the way of things I can sit on whilst I check emails?

'''BUBS:''' Ooh! Lucky for you! I just got ''{places a box on the counter}'' this pre-owned box of chicken beaks in just now! Like ''right'' just now!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, okay, okay... But you got anything less anthrax-y?

'''BUBS:''' I got this old Winger album! ''{holds up the record case}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, yeah... that ''is'' less Anthrax-y. But I was kinda hoping for a chair of some kind.

'''BUBS:''' Step right into my showroom!

''{Bubs slides away. Cut to the side of Bubs' Concession Stand. As Strong Bad walks around, a portion of the wall falls outward, revealing a conveyor belt. Bubs rides on it standing on one foot.}''

'''BUBS:''' Steeeeeeeeeeeep! ''{jumps off conveyor belt}'' All right! We'll start at the tip, and work our way to the tup!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You make less sense every day, Bubsy.

'''BUBS:''' Crabberdonk!

''{The wall flips back up, then falls down again, revealing a red, white and blue bicycle seat on the conveyor belt.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, that's no chair! That's Red, White and Banana! My old bicycle seat!

''{Cut to a film-projected scene of Li'l Strong Bad riding the bicycle seat outside a porch.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I used to ride that thing on my paper route all the time!

''{Li'l Strong Bad lights a newspaper on fire with a [[BMW Lighter|Duplo lighter]] and throws it at the house. As it bounces off the door, the door begins to emit smoke, and Li'l Strong Bad laughs. Cut back to Strong Bad and Bubs.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, I'd better pass on that. I had a few too many wipeouts on that thing as a kid.

'''BUBS:''' Ugh! You nasty!

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?

''{The wall rises again, and falls down with a chair shaped like Homestar Runner on it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What makes you think I want to check-a my email on a Homestar Runner-shaped chair?

'''BUBS:''' Aw, come on. Give it a try!

''{Strong Bad jumps onto the chair}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER CHAIR:''' Ow.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{jumping out of the chair}'' Wah!

'''BUBS:''' Whoops, seen enough of that one!

''{The wall rises and falls with a deformed gray lump vaguely resembling a chair.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aww, your snowman died!

'''BUBS:''' ''{cut to closeup of Bubs}'' You simpleton! This is a Danoob Largo original!

''{Cut to the chair. A Styleron Ecochair logo appears.}''

'''BUBS:''' The Styleron Ecochair!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{pan up to Strong Bad}'' Look, I don't care how Swedish your chair is. I have no need for a giant ''{pan back to the chair}'' albino doggie-doody.

'''BUBS:''' ''{cut to Bubs}'' Always a hit at parties...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{cut back to Strong Bad}'' Come on, Bubs! Don't you have anything more... ''executive''? A chair that will intimidate my underlings and eliminate my overlings!

''{Cut back to the wide shot of Strong Bad and Bubs.}''

'''BUBS:''' Ooh! Lucky for you! I just got this pre-owned—

''{The wall rises and falls, displaying the same box of chicken beaks seen earlier.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupting}'' ''NOT'' a box of chicken beaks! ''{The conveyor belt immediately rises again.}''

'''BUBS:''' Oh. Then behold!

''{The conveyor belt falls again, revealing a large leather chair, which obscures Strong Bad as it rolls out. The chair glows and a chorus sounds briefly, and a golden "Le Restige" plaque appears.}''

'''BUBS:''' Le Restige!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{appears from behind the chair}'' Style ''and'' class! Oh, tell me that leather's Corinthian! Just ''tell'' me it's Corinthian!

'''BUBS:''' ''{cut to closeup of Bubs}'' Crabberdonk!

''{Cut to a closeup of Strong Bad, who is now sitting on the chair.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So what kind of options are we looking at on this baby?

'''BUBS:''' Ooh! You're gonna love this!

''{Bubs opens a compartment in the arm rest to reveal a red button and presses it, making a buzzing sound. A pair of metallic arms appear from behind Strong Bad and quickly slip a pair of gray sweatpants on him}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No way! A sweatpants button! And so begins my meteoric rise to the top of the corporate ladder... Now alls we gotta do is see how well it checks emails!

''{Cut back to the computer room, with Le Restige taking up nearly the entire screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Hey, hey, hey. It's e-mail.

''{opens an email which is almost completely obscured by the chair}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{reading email}'' Dear Strong Bad, how come you never take your mask off? ''{typing}'' Like I've said before, ''this'' is not a mask. It's my face. But hey, I'll give it a shot!

''{Strong Bad tugs on his mask until it comes off. He raises the mask above the chair and screams for a few seconds, then puts it back on again, making gurgling noises throughout.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! I am NEVER gonna do that again! And, here's a picture of my parents. ''{holds up a photo; only the corner is visible above the chair.}''

''{Cut to a wide shot of the computer room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And now time to unwind with a pair of executive sweatpants!

''{Strong Bad pushes the sweatpants button, making the buzzing sound again. The robotic arms go haywire and toss Strong Bad into the air. He falls down with several layered sweatpants on his legs and another pair on his head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{groaning}'' Ooooh... so... many... sweatpants... I can't feel my parts...

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Dodongo.png|right|150px|nice try dodongo!]]
*Click on the Styleron logo while Bubs shows off the ecochair to see a poster of the designer.
*At the end, click on [[Le Restige]] to see a scene of Strong Sad trying to sit on the ecochair.
:''{Cut to Strong Sad's room. Strong Sad is balancing awkwardly atop the ecochair. The poster for it is on the wall behind him.}''
:'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Tips back and forth}'' Whoa... whoa... whoa... whoa... ''{Falls backwards, appearing to break his back}'' Ooh! ... I can't feel my parts...
*The photo of Strong Bad's parents, when viewed in a decompiler, is blank except for the words "nice try dodongo!" written across it. 

{{clear}}

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}
===Explanations===
*A [[wikipedia:Throat lozenge|lozenge]] is a small medicated candy intended to be dissolved slowly to soothe irritated throats.
*"What does Strong Bad look like without his mask?" and "What do the [[Parents|parents]] of the characters look like?" are two commonly asked questions that [[The Brothers Chaps]] have said that they are [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006#Pre-animation Process - 4:05 p.m.|not likely to ever answer seriously]].

===Trivia===
[[Image:Sb mask.PNG|right|150px|...when viewed with a decompiler]]
*The Floppy Disk Container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#bio forge|bio forge]]".
*Strong Bad's face/mask is facing the viewers even though Strong Bad is presumably facing his computer. This can be partially viewed when using a Flash decompiler.
*This email marks the first appearance of a more realistic-looking sky over [[The Field]].
*The text of the obscured email reads:<blockquote class="short lappy email"><div>subject: your mask</div>Dear strong bad, How come you never take your mask off? </blockquote>

===Remarks===
*The second email Strong Bad reads appears to have [[Strong Bad Email By Name of Sender#Unsigned|no sender]].
*There is no 'back' button at the end of the email.

===Goofs===
*We don't see or hear the conveyor belt go back up again after the Styleron Ecochair is seen for the last time, but the conveyor belt is up when Bubs brings out the chicken beaks again.
*When the scene switches to a wide shot after Strong Bad holds up the picture of his parents, the text on the screen has immediately switched from the email he received to the text Strong Bad typed.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad says (and supposedly demonstrates offscreen) that his "wrestling mask" is his real face. He mentioned this before in [[some kinda robot]].
*The adjective "stank" was previously used in [[modeling]] and [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*Le Restige is the same design of the chair used in [[rock opera]], [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], [[Everybody to the Limit]] and [[Store Thank You Messages#Strong Bad and The Cheat's Thank You|Strong Bad and The Cheat's Thank You message]].

*The quote "seen enough of that one" was also said in [[retirement]] and [[huttah!]].
*[[Wikipedia:Poughkeepsie|Poughkeepsie]] was last mentioned in [[Sick Day]]. (see also Real-World References)
*The face on Stooly looks a lot like [[Doreauxgard]].
*"Restige" is a [[Portmanteaus|portmanteau]] of "rest" and "prestige".
*Humane treatment of poultry was mentioned in the toon [[No Hands On Deck!]] as well.

===Real-World References===
*"Ethical Chick Beaks" is probably a reference to the questionably unethical practice of [[Wikipedia:Debeaking|cutting off baby chicken beaks]] employed by many chicken mega-farms.
*Anthrax is:
**[[wikipedia:Anthrax|An infectious, often fatal disease]] of cattle, sheep, and other mammals which can be transmitted to humans by contaminated wool, raw meat, or other animal products.
**[[wikipedia:Anthrax (band)|An influential '80s thrash metal band]].
*[[wikipedia:Winger|Winger]] is an American Hard Rock/Glam Metal band from New York City.
**The album [[wikipedia:Image:Winger album cover.jpg|pictured]] was Winger's self-titled debut album.
*Pakeithpsy sounds almost identical to the upstate New York city of [[wikipedia:Poughkeepsie|Poughkeepsie]]. (See also Inside References)
*Lil' Strong Bad's lighter has an [http://www.tagdocs.de/gvg/playmo/duplo/duplo.gif older version] of the [[Wikipedia:Duplo|Duplo]] logo on it.
*Strong Bad's insistence about [[wikipedia:Corinthian leather|Corinthian leather]] is a reference to a 1975 commercial narrated by [[wikipedia:Ricardo Montalban|Ricardo Montalbán]] for the [[wikipedia:Chrysler Cordoba|Chrysler Cordoba]], where he famously intones about the "rich Corinthian leather" of the seats.
*A [[wikipedia:Enemies in The Legend of Zelda series#Dodongo|Dodongo]] is an enemy from the [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda (series)|Legend of Zelda]] series.
*Strong Bad's new chair is in the style of Queen Anne furniture.

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|162|10344}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

video games

Rogue Leader — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:39:40 GMT

Rogue Leader: Revert. Doesn't go to the game for me

{{sbenav|94|army|the bet}}

{{aboutemail}} {{for|list of all Homestar Runner games|Games}}

[[Image:videogames.png|thumb|"One day technology will catch up with my advanced thinking."]]

Taylor R. wants to know what Strong Bad would be like in a video game. Strong Bad explains that it would depend on what system he was on.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Atari Strong Bad]], {{Film|Vector Strong Bad}}, [[Minor Game Characters|3-D Shield Guy]], [[Minor Game Characters|Rhino]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' January 12, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 3:00

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' Email is like a prison. A prison with no walls... and no toilet.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Hey Strong Bad, 
 
I was just wondering what you would 
be like in a video game and what it 
would be like. 
 
From, 
Taylor R. 
Queen Creek, AZ</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "AZ" as "Alcatraz."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa. Somebody on the inside. ''{shakes head}'' Get out soon, Taylor. ''{typing}'' What would I be like in a video game? Well, that all depends on what system we're talking about. Like, if it was on one of those really old machines...

''{Cut to Atari 2600-style game, with an empty green rectangle imposed on a black screen.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...the graphics would probably only look ''kinda'' like me.

''{A red square appears representing Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And I'd run all around a futuristic maze—

''{The square starts moving around the screen and some green blocks and blue glowing barriers appear.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' —collecting things that look ''nothing like'' me.

''{A yellow square the same size as Strong Bad's square appears in the centre of the maze.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Man, that'd be pretty awesome!

''{The red square approaches the yellow square and touches it, thereby "collecting" it. The words "secret collect!" appear on the screen. Cut back to the Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Ooh! Ooh! I could also be in one of those 3-D vector games.

''{Cut to screen of said game. A corridor ending with a wall is outlined in red. Some moving arrows appear on the walls on either side.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And there'd be this awesome, huge, 3-D version of my head floatin' around.

''{A vectorized version of Strong Bad's head appears on the screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Like, it looks so awesome, girls would probably try to make out with the screen

''{Lipstick lips appear on the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' and we'd have to program it to be like:

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD''': BACK OFF BABY

''{As it speaks the words appear on the screen, then fall down and disappear.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And in this one, the player wouldn't control me...

''{Cut to Strong Bad at the Compy, shaking the camera}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' 'CUZ YOU CAN'T CONTROL ''ME!!''

''{Cut back to the vector game.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Instead, you'd be some kinda 3-D shield guy with a shield...

''{A generic-looking guy with a shield appears on the bottom of the screen.}'''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Some kind of ''spikey''-headed 3-D cyber-shield guy... with a cyber-shield.

''{The appropriate changes are made so the shield guy is now spikey-headed and holding a striped "cyber-shield."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And you'd have to block my perplexing 3-D geometric attacks, or face ''certain 3-D doom''!

''{Vector Strong Bad spits out a rhombus, which the cyber-shield guy blocks. Vector Strong Bad spits another rhombus, and this one hits the cyber-shield carrier in the face, causing it to explode.}''

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD''': YOUR HEAD A SPLODE

''{Again, the words appear on the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Naturally, there'd be some problems with bad translation.

''{Cut back to Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' On the other hand, it might be cool to be in one of those text-based adventures. You know, for those intellectual people with better imaginations.

''{Cut to a black screen with a green arrow at the top.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' It'd be like...

''{reading text}''

<blockquote class="tandy email" style="background-image:none">Ye find yeself in yon dungeon. Ye see a FLASK 
Obvious exits are NORTH, SOUTH, and DENNIS. 
 
What wouldst thou deau?</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad doesn't say the last sentence.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And you'd be all like...

<blockquote class="short tandy email" style="background-image:none">Get ye flask</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And it'd say,

<blockquote class="short tandy email" style="background-image:none">You can't get ye flask!</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And you'd just have to sit there and imagine ''why on Earth'' you can't get ye flask! Because the game's certainly not going to tell you.

''{At this the screen adds "I'm certainly not going to tell thou."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And there's no precious graphics to help you out, either!

''{At this the screen adds "Graphics, shmaphics." and a few seconds later, " . . for sooth!" Cut back to the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' But oh, man. The best thing ever would be if I was in one of those brand new super-photorealistic games that take like tons of migs and megs of memories just to play it.

''{Cut to a blue screen. A 16-bit version of Strong Bad appears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' I'd look super-cool, runnin' around on some grass, maybe.

''{The background changes to a 16-bit field against a blue sky.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Where there'd be like, um... a rhino there, too.

''{A rhino falls down from the sky and some music starts playing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' A ''hungry'' rhino!

''{A food bowl appears in front of the rhino and it starts whining, jumping and turning red. Strong Bad runs around.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And I'd have to, I guess... feed him.

''{A box labeled "FOOD" appears. Strong Bad brings it to the rhino's bowl and it calms down, eating the food.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And, umm... snakes?

''{Snakes pop up, wriggling up and down the screen. The rhino charges. Cut back to Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So hopefully one day technology will catch up with my advanced thinking, so all the ladies can start making out with their TV screens.

''{Strong Bad stops typing; he turns around as he continues talking}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Until next time, Taylor, this one's for you, and all my peoples got sent up the river.

''{He pours his [[Cold One]] on the floor.}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down. After about five seconds, the four games appear in their boxes.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*If you wait a few seconds at the end, you see the box art for the four games. They are: ''[[StrongBadZone]]'', ''[[RhinoFeeder]]'', ''[[Thy Dungeonman]]'', and ''[[Secret Collect]]''. Clicking on one will give you a closer image.

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*Strong Bad's statement about bad translation of ''StrongBadZone'' is a reference to the ubiquitous bad translation of Japanese-made [[Nintendo|NES]]-era games, the most infamous of which gave rise to the phrase, "[[Wikipedia:All your base are belong to us|All your base are belong to us]]," which was from the Sega Genesis game ''[[Wikipedia:Zero Wing|Zero Wing]]''.
*When Strong Bad says "migs and megs of memories," he's talking about [[Wikipedia:Megabyte|megabytes]] of computer memory. A megabyte is 1,048,576 bytes.
*When Strong Bad mistakes Arizona for Alcatraz and says "Whoa... Somebody on the inside," he is talking about the famous jail on [[Wikipedia:Alcatraz Island|Alcatraz Island]] (which actually hasn't been in use since 1963).
*Secret Collect is for the [[FunMachine]], while Rhino Feeder is for the Super FunMachine. The names of these systems are most likely references to the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Entertainment System|NES]] and [[Wikipedia:Super Nintendo Entertainment System|Super NES]], respectively.
**However, the jump in graphics quality between the two games is more a reference to the graphics advances between the [[Atari 2600]] and its successors, the [[Wikipedia:Atari 5200|Atari 5200]] and [[Wikipedia:Atari 7800|7800]].

=== Trivia ===
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#bio menace|bio menace]]".
*Originally you could play the four games by clicking on them at the end of email. This has been changed as they are now accessible from the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]].

===Remarks===
*When Strong Bad says "YOU CAN'T CONTROL ME!" and the computer bounces around, you can still change the contrast.
*The ''StrongBadZone'' game contains the "BACK OFF BABY!" sequence, though it's only accessible with a [http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html seek bar].
*Although this email was supposed to be about if Strong Bad was in a video game, ''Thy Dungeonman'' has nothing to do with him at all.
*Strong Bad mispronounces the word "ye" in "You can't get [[ye flask]]!" When "ye" is used as an article, it is properly pronounced as "the."
*Strong Bad mentions that you can't control him, yet you play as him in Rhino Feeder and in Secret Collect. You also get to play as him in the Egg Throwing Game, Fishing Challenge '91, and Strong Bad's Treat Snatcha.

===Goofs===
[[Image:Video games a prompt goof.png|thumb|Oops!]]
*When Strong Bad pours the drink out for Taylor, you can see all of the dust left over from the [[army|last email]], though it was not visible in the rest of the email.
*When Strong Bad clears the screen after reading the email, the a> covers the text above for one frame.

===Real-World References===
*Strong Bad's intro is possibly a reference to Pete Rose's book, "My Prison Without Bars," which was released the week before this email.
*The graphics in ''StrongBadZone'' closely resemble [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Virtual Boy|Virtual Boy]] games that used vector graphics, such as [[Wikipedia:Red Alarm|''Red Alarm'']]. The Virtual Boy used only black, and three shades of red. See the [[#Commentary Transcript|DVD commentary]] below for several other titles that [[The Brothers Chaps]] liken it to.
*When Strong Bad pours the Cold One on the carpet at the end, it is a reference to the modern gangsta practice of pouring out a 40-ounce beer "for my dead homies."

===Fast Forward===
*''StrongBadZone'' is featured in [[Main Page 21]], the vector graphics page, which resembles the arcade game ''BattleZone''.
**The phrase "[[A Splode]]" is used several times later on.
*[[Ye Flask]] appears again in [[Thy Dungeonman]], [[Thy Dungeonman II]], and [[Thy Dungeonman 3]]

== DVD Version ==
*You obviously can't play any of the four games. As well, the game boxes don't automatically come up. Instead, you must access them via the hidden Strong Bad Icon on the Compy 386 screen.
**For the DVD, the Easter egg consists of samples of music from each game in turn.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' So this is an email we've been getting since probably the first week that we did Strong Bad Emails.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, and—

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Remember when we—

'''MIKE:''' For whatever reason, we always shied away from it.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' And then, for whatever reason, we just came up with the idea.

'''MATT:''' This was like the Japanese cartoon one, we got that a lot.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. Sometimes it just clicks when you read it and some, you just think of a good idea and sometimes you think of bad ideas, like maybe we'll get a really good idea for how to answer the "How do you type with boxing gloves?" email. Dark... dark night.

'''MATT:''' Umm—

'''MIKE:''' So our friend, uhhh, and, uhh—

'''MATT:''' Collaborator.

'''MIKE:''' Compat-compatriot. ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' Contemporary.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Jonathan Howe, we, uhh, I don't know—he threw all these together in, like, three or four days, maybe.

'''MATT:''' Less than that, probably, yeah, we told him—

'''MIKE:''' Hey, we had done it early in the—

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' —when we were doing this e-mail.

'''MIKE:''' I mean like midweek, probably. Tuesday or Wednesday, we, uhh—

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Those are really good-looking kissy lips.

'''MIKE:''' Thanks, man.

'''MATT:''' I like that.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Jiggles the camera.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, he gets really close up to it.

'''MIKE:''' Umm, so this is, y'know, like a vector game, like Tempest—

'''MATT:''' Battlezone.

'''MIKE:''' Battlezone... yeah.

'''MATT:''' The original Star Wars game.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Ohh... there you go.

'''MIKE:''' He said, "Your head a splode".

'''MATT:''' I think we were gonna make it ori—if you, when you killed him, he said, "My head splow up". ''{Mike laughs}'' That was the other thing he was going to say. Umm, so yeah, we figured if we were going to do the, uh, this is all sort of—comes from Mike and I if we ever to make a video game—

'''MIKE:''' Don't tell 'em.

'''MATT:''' Never mind.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Nu-huh—

'''MATT:''' ''{slightly more insistently}'' Never mind.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' We're not going to tell you.

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' I'm gonna need you all to sign a non-disclosure agreement before I reveal this. Umm, so this is sort of, uhh... I remember... what was it called? Vampire, I think, was one of the text games I played earlier on, and that's what had parapets in it. Was the first thing that—

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah, I remember parapets, yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' And I had no idea what para-I remember, like, getting the dictionary out and, because, I thought that would, like, when I'd fin-found out what parapets meant—

'''MIKE:''' That was how you won the game.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, then—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' That was like— ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' I would like, it was like the key to it, and I'm just like, "What? It's just like a wall, tower in a castle?" Umm... ''{long pause}'' That rhino looks great, too, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Thanks, Matt.

'''MATT:''' I think that noise, the noise the rhino makes ''{Mike laughs}'' is just that string on a key—on the synthesizer. There's like, it's supposed to sound like strings of a guitar, like when you're sliding your fingers down, yeah, so are the snakes, and they're just really slow ones and really fast ones. Fret—fret noises, that's what I'm—

'''MIKE:''' Fret magic.

'''MATT:''' Fret magic, really, magazine. Bio Menace, that was a Psygnosis game.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, with, uh, what was the other one?

'''MATT:''' ''{menacingly}'' Blood Money.

'''MIKE:''' Blood Money.

===Fun Facts===
*[[Wikipedia:Tempest (game)|Tempest]] and [[Wikipedia:Battlezone|Battlezone]] are arcade games from 1980. They were famous for their colored vector graphics, which were very innovative for their time. "The original Star Wars game" probably refers to [[Wikipedia:Star Wars (arcade game)|Star Wars]], the arcade game from 1983, which also features color vector graphics.

== External Links ==
{{preforumsbemailextlinks|94}}*[[Podstar:sb_email_video_games.m4v|download "video games" for the iPod]] (see [[Podstar Runner]])
{{Strong Bad Email}}[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]
[[Category:Podstar Runner]]

Talk:The King of Town's Crown

Rogue Leader — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 04:09:54 GMT

Rogue Leader: Merge

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Although this page is properly formatted and well constructed, do we need this article? Does it give any real info? We just got rid of Coach Z's Z for goodness sake. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:02, 26 Jan 2005 (MST)

:I agree and we did just get rid of Coach Z's Z. It seems quite odd that a brand new registered user (who attempted to redirect their user page to a blocked troll's userpage) would create this page as their first contribution. Odd indeed.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:12, 26 Jan 2005 (MST)

::Deleted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:02, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)

==KoT==

This info seems like something that could be part of the King of Town's page, but it doesn't seem to need it's own page anymore than say Strong Mad's singlet. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 00:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

:True — any information that's not already included on the KOT's page can just be added there, in my opinion. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:01, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
::Agreed. '''Merge''' with the KOT page. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 04:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

cartoon

Rogue Leader — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:21:55 GMT

Rogue Leader: reverted

{{sbenav|21|spring cleaning|sb_email 22}}

[[Image:sbemail21.PNG|thumb|"...or maybe a cloud that looked like a bird. You know, like a bird cloud."]]

Geroge writes in to ask Strong Bad to do a cartoon with only him in it, with a voiceover commentary. We also learn a valuable lesson; "Too much of a good thing is an awesome thing. But too much of an awesome thing is...umm...really, really dumb and bad."

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]]

'''Computer:''' [[Tandy 400]]

'''Date:''' April 8, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:43

'''Page Title:''' Tandy 400!!!

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' This episode, Strong Bad checks his email.

''{reading}''
<blockquote class="tandy email">dear mr bad 
make a cartoon with only u in it and then 
just u do the commentary 
crapful 
geroge</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "geroge" literally, as in "gee-roje" with a hard G}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh, no way, Geroge ''{same as before}''. We tried that once. Trust me, man. Bad idea.

''{The scene changes and we see Strong Bad standing in The Field. He hears a bird singing and he looks up and around.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Umm... so this is another part where it's just me. And I'm kinda standing around. You know, just standing. I guess I don't do very much. ''{Strong Bad scratches his head}'' No wait, I just scratched my head. Yeah, I remember that part. I totally had to scratch my head then, man. I can't remember exactly what I was looking at there. Er, I think it was like a bird, or maybe a cloud that looked like a bird. You know, like a bird cloud.

''{The scene changes back to Strong Bad sitting in front of the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I dunno. That wasn't so bad actually. You know its  like, All Strong Bad, All the Time! But you know what they say, "Too much of a good thing is an awesome thing. But too much of an awesome thing is...umm...really, really dumb and bad." ''{stops typing}'' All right, so until next time send me a little email and I'll give you a little crap.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So, this is where I just finished checking my email and I'm just kinda sitting there. You know, I...I think I was probably staring at my computer screen. You know, watching those green lines go by. I'd be like "Whoa, check at these green lines!" You know, they just keep going. ''{His eyes turn to green hypnotic circles and his head sways a little.}'' Those things could hypnotize you, man. If you watch them long enough. ''{His head drops to the keyboard.}'' Oh, see! There I go.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This is the first e-mail where The Paper reads "Click here to e-mail strong bad strongbad@homestarrunner.com" instead of just "Click here to e-mail strong bad."
===Goofs===
Strong Bad did not put an apostrophe in the "it's" in the "You know its like, All Strong Bad, All the Time" part of his reply.

===Remarks===
*When Strong Bad's head hits the keyboard, no letters appear onscreen.
*It's strange that Strong Bad says he shouldn't have his own cartoon, since the majority of the previous emails have had only him as a character.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad receives another email signed with the word [[Crapfully Yours|crap]].

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version adds a hidden audio commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Strong Bad]])

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Here comes email 21!

'''MIKE:''' So, I'm here again with Strong Bad.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hi Mike!

'''MIKE:''' How's it goin'?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Pretty good.

'''MIKE:''' So, um... We're going to have you do—this will be, like, uh, three layers of commentary on this.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes, yes.

'''MIKE:''' It might be hard to understand with so many Strong Bad voices going on.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well I'm not talking in this part—

'''MIKE:''' Yes you are.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm talking ''over'' the talking. I ju- I remember doing the commentary for this part, watching myself, and I was looking around, you know, and my head looked really weird, 'cause you weren't very good at Flash yet. And, uh, I tippy-tapped... I was totally tippy-tappin' the toes... It ''was'' a bird cloud.

'''MIKE:''' You—

'''STRONG BAD:''' I remember now.

'''MIKE:''' You remember now.

'''STRONG BAD:''' After all this time, I had a—a regression hypno-therapies, and it was, just, it—

'''MIKE:''' Everything that—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''Clearly'' a bird cloud.

'''MIKE:''' Was there anything you remembered from your hypno-therapy?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes.

'''MIKE:''' From your past?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes.

'''MIKE:''' What else?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, I—

'''MIKE:''' Do you remember what the "R" in "routine" stands for?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I did ''{angry}'' until you just said it, I did!

'''MIKE:''' Oh, and now you forgot?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I for—aww, but if you hadn't brought it up, I'd have totally just said that.

'''MIKE:''' I... well...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man.

'''MIKE:''' So is this when you got the hypno-therapy right here? 'Cause it looks like, here in a second, you start to get hypnotized.

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, but they did the same thing! They made me look at an old Apple monitor.

'''MIKE:''' Uh, yeah.

'''STRONG BAD:''' So this is me at the end of the email lookin' at the end of the email ''{starts speeding up}'' lookin' at the end of the email lookin' at the end of the email lookin' at—oh no! I've been through the time warp! Mike! It's yesterday!

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs a little}'' Oh really?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh no! We're working on an email or something, I don't remember! Ohh... I hit the cheese.

'''MIKE:''' Hit the cheese.

=== Fun Facts ===
*Mike asking Strong Bad what the "R" in "routine" stands for is a reference to [[morning routine]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail21.html|watch "cartoon"]]
*[[HR:sbemail21.swf|view the Flash file for "cartoon"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]] [[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

User:Rogue Leader

Rogue Leader — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:01:19 GMT

Rogue Leader: +1 and removed that wiki troll thingy

[[Image:Jess-dogs.JPG|thumb|A picture of my beloved dogs and sister.]]
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So my name is Rogue Leader on H*R wiki. My real name is Dan Henderson, and I am from Hollidaysburg, PA.

==About Me, Nonwiki==
Like I said, my name is Dan Henderson. Call me Rogue or Rogue Leader. I like to watch weather and [[Wikipedia:Law and Order|Law and Order]], swiming and going to camps. I have two [[Wikipedia:Bichon|dogs]], one, a frise and the other, a havanese. I am active on the IRC channel and you can see me there on scheluled chats and other times.

==Me and Homestar==
I have loved Homestar since I first laid eyes on him at a camp out in my friends back yard. I like to go to the [[STUFF]] page and look at those strange facts. The merchandise that I got is [[The Cheat]] plush toy, the [[DVD]], and the figurines.

==Profile==
Back in the day, these were sorta hot, so I decided to put this in. Prepare to laugh.

'''Age''': 13

'''Height''': 5 foot 11

'''Best SBemail''': [[rock opera]]

'''Toon''': [[A Jorb Well Done]]

'''Holiday Toon''': [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig|All Hallow's Eve Potion Collection day]]

'''Top 5 Characters''': 1. [[Pom-Pom]] 2. [[Homsar]] 3.[[The Cheat]] 4. [[Homestar]] 5. [[Strong Bad]]

'''Best Game: Legend of Zelda''': Ocarana of Time, Super Mario 64, Super Smash Bros. Melee. Stinkoman and Peasants Quest

'''Favorite Easter egg''': Strumstar Hammer.

==Quotes==
Some quotes I like. Good times... Good times.

*I'm just me, can't you see? I am just a silly little bumblebee.- '''[[Homsar]]'''

*Buttdance Again! like the rhythms down your pants now-'''[[Homestar Runner]]'''

*DELORTED!!! '''[[Coach Z]]'''

*I can count to G! '''[[Whats Her Face]]'''

*And I'll never, ever, ever, ever, ever write a song about Sibbie.-'''[[Strong Bad]]'''

==My Wiki Contributions and Projects==
Here are my contributions that I am particularly proud of and some of my projects.
Favorite contributions:
*Made the [[Rock Opera (karaoke)]] page,
*[[Sample of Style Too: Some Outtakes]],
*[[Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough_Level_9|The 9.1 walkthorugh]].
*Unofficially made [[The Dancing Brothers]] Page. By that, I made an image, [[User:Bkmlb|bkmlb]] put that up, and I did the rest.
*Uploaded [[Peasant's Quest Items]] and added a table section, but HSRusername did the brunt work.
*I have made the following DVD commentaries: [[origins]] [[extra plug]] [[crying]] [[other days]]
*I have recently tagged 400 images with <nowiki>{{web-screenshot}} or {{game-screenshot}}</nowiki>, for which I received this.
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'''People welcomed''': 196

'''Currently working on''': Natta.

User talk:Aprilaida22

Rogue Leader — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:00:30 GMT

Rogue Leader: Welcome!

== [[Unusual Greetings|Welcome!]] ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We're glad to have you as a member. If you need any help, feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
* If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
* Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
* If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
* If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum].
* Look at the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Index MediaWiki User's Guide].
* To practice editing, go to the [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]].
* Take a look at the list of [[HRWiki:List of common misspellings|common misspellings]].
* Be sure to read the [[HRWiki:User space|rules and guidelines]] for your user page.
* Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delort this message when you're done reading it. After all, your [[HRWiki:User space|user page]] belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community. If you have any questions, just ask me, or anyone on the welcoming committee.

Sincerely, 
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Talk:Strong Bad Email Records

Rogue Leader — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:23:45 GMT

Rogue Leader: Hastiness... not a good thing

Yep... I was a bit over hasty on this. I think that [[Strong Bad Emails by Length]] and [[Strong Bad Email Statistics]] would cover this... but which one should we redirect to? Or should we disimbig? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Grabbo Arm

Rogue Leader — Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:01:27 GMT

Rogue Leader: I = rusty

[[Image:grabbo arm.png|thumb|It demands respect!]]
The '''Grabbo Arm''' was a well-received 2004 [[Decemberween]] present to [[Strong Bad]]. With its blinking blue and green lights and impressive reach, the Grabbo Arm demands respect. As Strong Bad said, it has what it takes, and what it takes is [[Marzipan]]'s purse. It was also used in Strong Bad's Amazing Feats of Wonder to pop the King of Town's burp bubble in [[retirement (combined)]].

== Appearances ==
*'''Debut:''' [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]
* [[retirement (combined)]]

[[Category:Electronics]]

Grabbo Arm

Rogue Leader — Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:58:25 GMT

Rogue Leader: Whoops, my bad

[[Image:grabbo arm.png|thumb|It demands respect!]]
The '''Grabbo Arm''' was a well-received 2004 [[Decemberween]] present to [[Strong Bad]]. With its blinking blue and green lights and impressive reach, the Grabbo Arm demands respect. As Strong Bad said, it has what it takes, and what it takes is [[Marzipan]]'s purse. It was also used in Strong Bad's Amazing Feats of Wonder to pop the King of Town's burp bubble in [[retirement]].

== Appearances ==
*'''Debut:''' [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]
* [[retirement (combined)]]

[[Category:Electronics]]

Grabbo Arm

Rogue Leader — Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:56:33 GMT

Rogue Leader: Added it under appareances

[[Image:grabbo arm.png|thumb|It demands respect!]]
The '''Grabbo Arm''' was a well-received 2004 [[Decemberween]] present to [[Strong Bad]]. With its blinking blue and green lights and impressive reach, the Grabbo Arm demands respect. As Strong Bad said, it has what it takes, and what it takes is [[Marzipan]]'s purse. It was also used in Strong Bad's Amazing Feats of Wonder to pop the King of Town's burp bubble in [[retirement]].

== Appearances ==
*'''Debut:''' [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]
* [[retirement]]

[[Category:Electronics]]

User:Rogue Leader

Rogue Leader — Mon, 09 Oct 2006 03:02:44 GMT

Rogue Leader: Preterms=over. Rogue=free time

[[Image:Jess-dogs.JPG|thumb|A picture of my beloved dogs and sister.]]
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So my name is Rogue Leader on H*R wiki. My real name is Dan Henderson, and I am from Hollidaysburg, PA.

==About Me, Nonwiki==
Like I said, my name is Dan Henderson. Call me Rogue or Rogue Leader. I like to watch weather and [[Wikipedia:Law and Order|Law and Order]], swiming and going to camps. I have two [[Wikipedia:Bichon|dogs]], one, a frise and the other, a havanese. I am active on the IRC channel and you can see me there on scheluled chats and other times.

==Me and Homestar==
I have loved Homestar since I first laid eyes on him at a camp out in my friends back yard. I like to go to the [[STUFF]] page and look at those strange facts. The merchandise that I got is [[The Cheat]] plush toy, the [[DVD]], and the figurines.

==Profile==
Back in the day, these were sorta hot, so I decided to put this in. Prepare to laugh.

'''Age''': 13

'''Height''': 5 foot 11

'''Best SBemail''': [[rock opera]]

'''Toon''': [[A Jorb Well Done]]

'''Holiday Toon''': [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig|All Hallow's Eve Potion Collection day]]

'''Top 5 Characters''': 1. [[Pom-Pom]] 2. [[Homsar]] 3.[[The Cheat]] 4. [[Homestar]] 5. [[Strong Bad]]

'''Best Game: Legend of Zelda''': Ocarana of Time, Super Mario 64, Super Smash Bros. Melee. Stinkoman and Peasants Quest

'''Favorite Easter egg''': Strumstar Hammer.

==Quotes==
Some quotes I like. Good times... Good times.

*I'm just me, can't you see? I am just a silly little bumblebee.- '''[[Homsar]]'''

*Buttdance Again! like the rhythms down your pants now-'''[[Homestar Runner]]'''

*DELORTED!!! '''[[Coach Z]]'''

*I can count to G! '''[[Whats Her Face]]'''

*And I'll never, ever, ever, ever, ever write a song about Sibbie.-'''[[Strong Bad]]'''

==My Wiki Contributions and Projects==
Here are my contributions that I am particularly proud of and some of my projects.
Favorite contributions:
*Made the [[Rock Opera (karaoke)]] page,
*[[Sample of Style Too: Some Outtakes]],
*[[Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough_Level_9|The 9.1 walkthorugh]].
*Unofficially made [[The Dancing Brothers]] Page. By that, I made an image, [[User:Bkmlb|bkmlb]] put that up, and I did the rest.
*Uploaded [[Peasant's Quest Items]] and added a table section, but HSRusername did the brunt work.
*I have made the following DVD commentaries: [[origins]] [[extra plug]] [[crying]] [[other days]]
*I have recently tagged 400 images with <nowiki>{{web-screenshot}} or {{game-screenshot}}</nowiki>, for which I received this.
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'''People welcomed''': 195

'''Trolls added to WikiTroll''': 14

'''Currently working on''': Natta.

User talk:Tigrusoare

Rogue Leader — Mon, 09 Oct 2006 03:00:43 GMT

Rogue Leader: Welcome!

alternate universe

Rogue Leader — Mon, 09 Oct 2006 02:35:14 GMT

Rogue Leader: Reverted, this was intentional.

{{sbenav|150|candy product|senior prom}}
[[Image:Doppelgangers.png|thumb|"Save the last email for Strong Bad..."]]
In this, his sesquicentenn-email, Strong Bad constructs an alternate universe portal with the help of The Cheat and visits alternate realities, along with many of his doppelgängers, while Homestar tries to make a real fruit smoothie.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, [[Strong Badman]], {{Film|Old-Timey Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Vector Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Stinkoman}}, [[Tiny-Handed Strong Bad]], {{Film|Pom Pom}} (silhouette), {{Film|Strong Mad}} (silhouette), {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}} (silhouette), {{Film|Marzipan}} (silhouette), [[The Fat Bee]], [[Keyboard Strong Bad]], [[Puppet Character Variations#Puppet Strong Bad|Puppet Strong Bad]], [[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals#Da Huuuuuudge|Da Huuuuuudge]], [[Teenage Variation#Teenage Strong Bad|Teenage Strong Bad]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, [[Sterrance]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badman's Apartment]], [[Stages#Old-Timey Stage|Old-Timey Stage]], [[Vector Field]], [[flashback|Flashback]] [[Race Track]], [[Strong Badia]] (puppet), [[Da Huuuuuudge's Enclosure]], [[Pie Factory]], Interdimensional Void, Recording Studio, [[The Pond]] (Easter Egg), Black Lodge (Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' April 4, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 5:53

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing over guitar music}'' I've been walking on clouds and flipping off rainbows, on the wiiiiings of an emaiiil...

''{Cut to a wide view of the desk. Strong Sad is standing to the right of Strong Bad with a classical guitar. Strong Bad turns to face him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, man.

'''STRONG SAD:''' No prob, Bob.

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: alternate univer$e</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
Got some ?'s for you: 
1. What would you do with a hundred million dollars? 
2. What would you do if you suddenly found yourself in 
an alternate universe somehow? 
Jody (not a girl), TX
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "question marks" for "?'s", and "Number one" and "Number two" for "1." and "2.", respectively.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{says everything inside parentheses normally}'' Ya know, you could probably ditch that (not a girl) thing, if you just replaced it with something tough and cool and kool and tuff. Like (Bulldozer). Jody (Bulldozer). Nobody's gonna think that guy's a girl. ''{clears screen}'' Well Ms. Dozer, you pretty much answered question mark #1 ''{read "number one"}'' with question mark #2 ''{read "number two"}''. Cuz a hundred million dollars is exactly how much The Cheat spent on our alternate universe portal.

''{Cut to a wide view of the desk. The Cheat is standing to the right of the Lappy with a blender containing a [[Nintendo]] Game Boy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Isn't that right, The Cheat?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? This thing only cost us fourteen bucks?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{agreeing The Cheat noise}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well... that's like a hundred million dollars in... dog years, right?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noise}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leans towards The Cheat suddenly}'' All right! Mash go on that blender!

''{Camera zooms out a little as The Cheat presses a button on the blender. The blender shoots out white bolts as the lighting in the room flashes. Soon after, the blender stops with the Game Boy intact, and there is a large swirl to the right of the desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh-ho-ho! Swirly Photoshopped magic! I bet this thing could release some serious Cacodemons. So... ''{The Cheat turns to face Strong Bad}'' What? I— I just jump in?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leaning backwards}'' Ohbee Kaybee! ''{jumps off the stool and towards the swirl}'' Jump!

''{As soon as Strong Bad touches the swirl, everything except him and the swirl turns black and white. Strong Bad distorts horizontally and vertically, then "springs" into the swirl. Cut to a panel of a comic strip with a number of buildings drawn in it. A caption at the top of the panel reads "IN A BULDING..."}''

'''NARRATOR:''' In a bulding...

''{Camera shifts to the next panel, which shows an empty room. Strong Bad appears, with "VOIP!" appearing next to him briefly. While in the comic, everything Strong Bad says is also shown in a speech bubble.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! Where am I?

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is in an action pose on a yellow background. Everything he says also appears in a speech bubble, and is not lip-synced.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{in large red text}'' STINY! ''{normal text}'' We have a visitor from an alternate universe!

''{Next panel. Strong Bad appears in the same room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looking to the right}'' It's Strong Badman! And his well drawn abs! ''{looks to the left}'' But... why are we in a crappy apartment instead of a secret underground lair... ''{looks back to the right}'' ...filled with secret underground gadgets?

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is shown from the chest up in front of a blue background.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' Because mere mortal... this apartment...

''{Next panel. Strong Badman appears in front of a red background with his arms in the air. A thunderclap can be heard in the background.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{speech bubble is large, yellow and pointy}'' ...is rent controlled! ''{next speech bubbles are regular}'' And... water's included.

''{Next panel. A kitchen and bathroom sink are shown with the faucets running. The bathroom tap has the word "FROSH!" next to it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' Is that why all your faucets are running?

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is standing in a room.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{each syllable appears individually in red text and is not in a speech bubble}'' Mu-hu-ha-ha-hah! ''{regular speech bubble and text}'' Those dimwits down at the public works won't know what hit them!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{walking in from left}'' So, that's your evil plan? To waste water?

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' And not pay for it!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I gotta tell ya, Strong Badman... this part of your comic is pretty boring. I'm gonna see what's going on further down the page. ''{jumps out of the current panel}'' Jump!

''{He falls down three panels. There is a woman with a big knife sitting on a giant robotic snake.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh! Now we're talkin'!

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is in the left of the panel, Strong Bad in the center, and there is a TV with the previous panel on it (minus Strong Bad) to the right.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' You're not kidding!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wha?

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' Now we have expanded basic cable...

''{Next panel. Close-up of a cable running through a hole in the wall.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{offscreen}'' Stolen from my neighbor!

''{Next panel. Strong Bad is in front of a yellow background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Who's writing this issue? The geniuses behind She-Hulk? ''{looks up}'' The Cheat?

''{Cut back to the Computer Room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice is slightly distorted, and a speech bubble appears from the swirl}'' A little frappe action, if you please.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Single "squeak"}''

''{The Cheat turns around and turns on the blender. Cut back to the previous comic panel. Strong Bad disappears with the same "VOIP!" with which he appeared.}''

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is in the same pose as when he first appeared, but flipped around and with a green background.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{in large red text}'' STINY! ''{normal text}'' Keep flushing those toilets!

''{Cut to the Old-Timey stage. Old-Timey Strong Bad is standing on the stage with curtains behind him. To the left of him is a sign that reads "STRONG BAD and his GOODE-TIME PARLOR TRICKS". An audience can be seen silhouetted at the bottom of the screen.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Yes, and for my next parlor trick, I shan't make anything ''{faces left}'' appear!

''{Strong Bad appears to the left of Old-Timey Strong Bad. He is still in color.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. H-hi.

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' ''{crowd starts booing}'' You brightly colored baboon! You ruined my vaudeville!

''{The Homestar Runner's dance music plays as tomatoes are thrown at the two Strong Bads.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah! Shades of gray tomatoes!

''{Strong Bad disappears as Old-Timey Strong Bad looks to the left.}''

''{Cut to Vector Strong Bad floating above a vector field. Strong Bad appears to the right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What is up, my enormous vector brother?

''{As Vector Strong Bad speaks, his words come out of his mouth in red vector-style text. They disappear after a short while.}''

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' HELLOTE.

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, uh... ''{cut to close-up of Strong Bad}'' what do you do for fun around here? ''{cut back to previous view}''

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' I SPLO STUFF UP.

''{Strong Bad jumps backwards slightly to avoid the "UP", which promptly explodes with vector graphics.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, that's pretty cool.

''{Stinkoman walks in from the left.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Hey, guys! How's challenges?

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' WHAT IT IS MY DOGE?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, you two know each other?

''{Cut to close-up of Stinkoman.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{smiles}'' Oh, totally sure! ''{leans forward and waves one of his arms}'' He's my training simulator!

''{Cut back to previous view.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Check it out!

''{Vector Strong Bad starts moving left and right, shooting squares from his mouth. Stinkoman jumps around and dodges the squares. Strong Bad also jumps over and around the squares, but appears to have more difficulty doing so. Game music from [[video games]] plays. After a few seconds, they all stop.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Nice work, big nose!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Big nose?

'''STINKOMAN:''' Your nose!

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' LEVEL 2

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh-oh.

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Uh-oh.

''{Stinkoman silently laughs as Vector Strong Bad shoots a series of squares directly at Strong Bad. As they explode, Strong Bad disappears. Vector Strong Bad then shoots some squares at Stinkoman, which he dodges.}''

''{Cut to a field in the style of [[flashback]]. Tiny Handed Strong Bad is standing close to the camera. Strong Bad appears to the right. All text appears in a white rectangle near the bottom of the screen.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' And so, ''{Strong Bad starts looking around}'' both Strong Bads entered the 'Dig To China With Your Ears Contest.'

'''STRONG BAD:''' This is just about... the second or third to worst contest I ever heard of.

''{Cut to a silhouetted view of the field. Pom Pom, Strong Mad, Coach Z, Bubs and Marzipan are standing to the right of a banner which reads "the contest began!!". Tiny Handed Strong Bad is underneath the banner.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' The contest began!

''{Cut to a close-up of Tiny Handed Strong Bad rubbing his head on the ground near a line marked "start".}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' And tiny-handed Strong Bad rubbed his head on the ground... ''{cut to a wide view; Strong Bad is sitting on a hammock with his Dangeresque sunglasses on.}'' while our Modern Day Hero maxed and relaxed.

''{Cut to Tiny Handed Strong Bad standing near the camera again, as in the first shot. A hole is visible near the background, and a giant glass of root beer appears in the center.}''

'''TINY HANDED STRONG BAD:''' I struck it rich!

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Said T.H.S.B.

''{Cut to a zoomed out view of the previous scene, but with the giant glass of root beer in the center. The Fat Bee is seen holding Strong Bad's hammock up.}''

'''TINY HANDED STRONG BAD:''' A giant mug of frosty root beer!

''{Old-Timey Strong Bad appears to the left in a bathing suit. Tiny Handed Strong Bad looks at him.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Zounds! A sarsparilla swimming hole! Last one in's a freemason! ''{he half-runs toward the root beer and jumps in}'' Jump! ''{this last word does not appear in a subtitle}''

''{Strong Bad disappears. Keyboard Strong Bad appears at the bottom left of the screen and dances while playing a tune.}''

''{Cut to a screen in the style of Puppet Stuff. Puppet Strong Bad is standing in front of the Strong Badia fence. The Tire and Stop Sign are visible. Strong Bad appears to the right. Music starts playing and both Strong Bads dance in sync with each other. After a moment, Strong Bad disappears again.}''

''{Cut to Da Huuuuuudge's Enclosure. Strong Bad appears lying down on top of it. He slowly slides down, then disappears.}''

''{Cut to the abandoned factory from [[highschool]]. Teenage Strong Bad is standing to the right. Strong Bad appears to the left.}''

'''TEENAGE STRONG BAD:''' Stripèd pants.

''{Strong Bad disappears. Cut to the interdimensional void, which changes colors constantly.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice slightly distorted}'' The Cheat! Cool out on the liquefy button, man!

''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar standing next to the blender in the Computer Room. The blender still contains the Game Boy, but now also contains a green substance. One and a half avocados are sitting on the desk, along with a jar that reads "Total Load". Homestar is pressing buttons on the blender.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm trying to make me a real fruit smoothie here!

''{Cut to a wide shot. Tiny Handed Strong Bad is standing to the left, with Senor Cardgage, Old-Timey Strong Bad and Da Huuuuuudge to the right.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Any of you guys got any bee pollen?

''{As Homestar presses another button, Strong Bad appears next to the portal and Strong Badman appears on the left side of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Homestar! Quit messing with my alternate universe portal!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{slowly}'' I'm trying to replenish some electrolytes, if you don't mind!

''{Homestar presses another button on the blender. He and the portal both suddenly disappear, and Sterrance appears on the desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looking around}'' Wow. Just look at all these Strong Bad-related faces. What an all-star cast! What say we all form a supergroup and record a number one jam!

''{All of the Strong Bad clones groan.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{off-screen, simultaneously with Old-Timey Strong Bad}'' I guess...

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' ''{simultaneously with Stinkoman}'' If we must.

''{The screen fades to black, and then cuts to Strong Bad in a recording studio. Some music starts playing, and continues through the rest of the e-mail.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' There's a crazy world of e-mails in this crazy world. ''{Cut to a reversed view of Strong Bad.}'' Checkin' 'em down, checkin' 'em down...

''{Cut to Stinkoman standing next to Strong Badman and Old-Timey Strong Bad.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{singing}'' I hope it's from a girrrrrrrl! 

''{Old-Timey Strong Bad winces and looks toward Stinkoman on his last word. Cut to a zoomed out view of the scene, revealing (from left to right), Stinkoman, Strong Badman, Old-Timey Strong Bad, Strong Bad, Vector Strong Bad, Keyboard Strong Bad, Senor Cardgage, Teenage Strong Bad, Sterrance and Tiny Handed Strong Bad. Strong Badman's words appear in speech bubbles next to him.}''

'''ALL STRONG BADS:''' ''{singing}'' Save the last email for Strong Bad!

''{Cut to Senor Cardgage at the recording studio.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{singing}'' Let the little children go.

''{Cut to Vector Strong Bad in the field, which now has blue lines running above and below it.}''

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I HOPE THEY DON'T A SPLODE

''{Cut back to a panning view of all the Strong Bads.}''

'''ALL STRONG BADS:''' ''{singing}'' Save the last email for Strong—

''{Cut to Old-Timey Strong Bad in the recording studio just before "Bad".}''

'''ALL STRONG BADS:''' —Bad!

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Save the last email for Strong Bad!

''{Da Huuuuuudge fades in from the right.}''

'''DA HUUUUUUDGE:''' ''{singing in a high voice with vibrato}'' Save the last email for meeeee!

''{A comic panel with Strong Badman in front of a green background slides into the upper-left corner toward the end of Da Huuuuuudge's line.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' Save the last email!

''{Cut back to a view of all the Strong Bads. The camera slowly zooms out during Strong Bad's line.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All my Strong Bad doppelgängers represent. Sesquicentenn-email, 2005. I-I mean six.

''{The music stops. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on Teenage Strong Bad's hat to see a creation of Strong Sad's ideas from [[Sbemail 150?!?]]:
:''{Piano music, fade in on Coach Z holding a pear covered with eyeballs while black coffee continually streams down his mouthless face. Cut to a close-up of the pear with its eyes googling, then to another shot of the pear from behind Coach Z with his arm raised higher. Then cut to a close-up of Coach Z's head. Fade via black to the original shot. Homestar appears next to Coach Z.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{subtitled, in a fake backwards-sounding voice}'' Coach Z, if you're not going to eat that eyeball pear... ''{clears his throat, starts talking normally with no subtitles}'' I suggest you give it to someone who will.
:'''COACH Z:''' ''{distressed}'' I don't know what's going on, Homestar, but I'm not at liberty to discuss what I just did in my pants!

*At the end, click on Senor Cardgage's head to see Strong Bad's meeting with him:
:''{Senor Cardgage is sitting in a boat on a lake, holding a stick with fishing line tied to the end, hanging over the side. Strong Bad appears in the boat.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Wow, a fishing trip with Senor Cardgage! My life is complete.
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Alonzo Mourning to you, Myrtlebeth. Say hello to my tacklebox. ''{holds up said tacklebox}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Hello there, tacklebox. ''{smiles}'' I'm such a big fan.
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Well, if you could just sign right here on the dotty line, the adaption will be complete.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''You're'' gonna adopt me?
:''{Strong Bad disappears}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen and echoing slightly}'' Aw, man!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
* A [[Wikipedia:Doppelgänger|Doppelgänger]] refers either to a creature from folklore that mimics people's appearances as an omen of death, or to the theory that everyone in the world has someone else that looks exactly like them.
* [[Wikipedia:Sarsaparilla|Sarsaparilla]] (spelled incorrectly as "sarsparilla" in the flashback scene) is a type of plant used to make beverages, and is a common ingredient in [[Wikipedia:Root Beer|root beer]]. It is more commonly pronounced "sass-parilla" than "sar-sparilla" or "sar-sa-parilla". It is also commonly misspelled "sasparilla".
* [[Wikipedia:Rent control|Rent control]] is a policy used in some urban communities where the market price is deemed too high. Rent controlled dwellings are highly coveted in the communities where they are available.
* Strong Bad's conversion of fourteen dollars into [[Wikipedia:Dog years|dog years]] refers to the often-confused (and inaccurate) folk formula that dogs age seven "years" for every human year.
*A freemason is a member of a fraternal men's organization such as the [[Wikipedia:York Rite|York Rite]] or the [[Wikipedia:Scottish Rite|Scottish Rite]]. Other organizations permitting women and/or minors as members, including [[Wikipedia:DeMolay International|DeMolay]], [[Wikipedia:Job's Daughters International|Job's Daughters]], [[Wikipedia:Order of the Eastern Star|Eastern Star]], etc., also fall under the umbrella of [[Wikipedia:freemasonry|freemasonry]].
*[[Wikipedia:Electrolyte|Electrolytes]] are solutions of [[Wikipedia:Ion|ions]] (such as sodium and potassium salts) that are lost during [[Wikipedia:perspiration|perspiration]]. Drinks containing electrolytes, such as popular sports drinks, are often used to ease [[Wikipedia:Dehydration|dehydration]].
*[[Wikipedia:Vaudeville|Vaudeville]] is a style of multi-act theatre that flourished in North America from the 1880s to the 1920s, later succeeded by silent movies. Acts included anything from acrobats to mathematicians, from song-and-dance duos to trick high divers.
*The "Dig To China With Your Ears Contest" may be a reference to old cartoons of the 1930s through 1960s that involve characters going through the center of the earth in some way or another and coming out on the other side, ending up in China.
*A [[Wikipedia:Supergroup (music)|Supergroup]] is a musical group comprising artists who were previously members of earlier, well-known groups.

===Trivia===
*This email is the longest email to date, almost a full minute longer than [[flashback]] (previously the longest).
*When Strong Bad jumps down several panels in the Strong Badman comic, he passes a panel containing an explosion (with the word "TADAOW!"), and another panel with [[Deutschman]] (from [[haircut]]) holding a chain of sausages. Deutschman is saying "KINDER UBERRASCHUNG!!", the German name for [[Wikipedia:Kinder Surprise|Kinder Surprise]] (though Uberraschung should be spelled Überraschung).
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#weird dreams|weird dreams]]".
*This is the first time Stinkoman has been seen smiling without laughing.

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad has no visible nose or ears, despite the fact that those body parts were mentioned in this e-mail.
*Senor Cardgage is the only one of Strong Bad's alter egos who had been seen talking with him prior to this email, as seen in [[kind of cool]], [[garage sale]], and [[Senorial Day]].
*This is a [[Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad|rare]] occasion of Strong Bad being nice to Strong Sad.
*In [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], Strong Sad is seen writing with his right hand. However, in this email, Strong Sad is playing the [[Strong Sad's Guitar|guitar]] [[Left Handedness|left-handed]], though it is possible that Strong Sad is ambidextrous.
*Although it can be argued whether or not Stinkoman has actually smiled before, this is the first time his mouth has been recognizably smile-shaped.
*The puppet Strong Bad is the only doppelgänger Strong Bad visited that did not appear in the ending screen, for obvious reasons.
*This is the first time we hear the Da Huuuuuudge's voice.
*Frappé is spelt as "Frappe" when Strong Bad talks to The Cheat. It is lacking the accent.
*In the recording studio, the characters are using wireless microphones. While wireless microphones are handy in live performance (to prevent signal loss on a long cable run, as well as to avoid tangling of cables), they are actually rarely used in studio work because a cabled microphone will deliver truer fidelity.
*Homestar pronounces the word "fruit" without his usual speech impediment.
*During the Vector Strong Bad segment, the cartoon's border changes to red.
*Not all Strong Bad versions were included, such as his PBTC version.

[[Image:Altuniv1318-1319.png|thumb|From blue to green.]]

===Goofs===
*During the "Because, mere mortal" comic scene, the panel below the next panel has a blue background. In the next scene ("Is rent controlled!"), that panel now has a green background.
*The second time everyone says "Save the last email for Strong Bad", you can see that Strong Bad's pants have changed from black to dark navy, but not the pant legs. (Compare to Keyboard Strong Bad standing next to him.)
**This happens a few times in the email, such as when Strong Bad meets Vector Strong Bad.
*During the recording session at the end, the wall's grey spot pattern is made from a single image of dots copied and pasted multiple times. This results in some half dots appearing between the copied images.
*When Strong Bad first jumps into the Alternate Universe Portal, his stool disappears briefly while he's in the process of warping. It briefly reappears after Strong Bad leaves, but for the remainder of the email, the stool is missing.
*After cutting to the wide shot showing The Cheat with the blender, the Lappy's screen includes the text "Isn't that right, The Cheat?", even though Strong Bad didn't actually type it.

[[Image:Alternateuniversegoof.png|thumb|Disappearing start line.]]
*In the "Save The Last Email" song, Vector Strong Bad is behind Strong Badman, yet his white and green lines appear above Strong Badman when talking/singing.
*In the "Dig to China with your ears contest" part, the starting line disappears when the camera cuts to the giant mug of root beer.

===Fixed Goofs===
*When the email was released, "girl" was misspelled as "gir" in Jody's email. This was fixed shortly thereafter.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's intro song refers to flipping [[the bird]].
*Strong Sad was previously seen playing an acoustic guitar in a recent [[Sketchbook#SK-2006-03-02|Sketchbook]], although that guitar was a twelve-string. Here he plays a six-string classical guitar.
[[Image:HSRTimeMachine.PNG|thumb|Homestar's Time machine]]
*The alternate dimension machine is a [[Blender#Game Boy in a Blender|Game Boy in a Blender]]. In [[2 emails]], Homestar claims to have made a time machine by sticking a Game Boy in a [[Blender|blender]] while the email is fast-forwarding.
*This is another example of [[Mashing Go|Mashing Go/Play]].
*The "In a bulding"  line, including its accent and pronunciation, is straight from the [[Sketchbook (video)|DVD Sketchbook]] (though it was spelled correctly there).
*Strong Bad visits many previous emails in his travels:
**Strong Badman and Stiny originated in [[superhero name]].
**Deutschman originated in [[haircut]].
**Vector Strong Bad is from [[video games]].
**Stinkoman originated in [[japanese cartoon]].
**Tiny-handed Strong Bad is from [[flashback]].
**Keyboard Strong Bad originated in [[crazy cartoon]] and played the same song then as in this email. 
**Da Huuuuuudge and Sterrance are both from [[animal]].
**Teenage Strong Bad and the term "stripèd pants" are from [[highschool]].
**Senor Cardgage originated in [[kind of cool]].
*In addition, some of the music accompanying the scenes Strong Bad visits are also reused from other parts of the website. They include:
**The music from [[action figure]]; later used in [[suntan]] and [[army]] (during the Strong Badman scene).
**Old-Timey Strong Bad's theme music from [[Parsnips A-Plenty]]; later used in [[50 emails]] (during the Old-Timey scene).
**[[The Homestar Runner]]'s dance music (also during the Old-Timey scene).
**The synthesized drum tune from [[Main Page 21]] (during the [[Vector Field]] scene).
**The music from [[flashback]] (during the [[Original Book]] scene).
**Keyboard Strong Bad's demo music from [[crazy cartoon]].
**The weird music during Coach Z's dream scene from [[A Jorb Well Done]]; later used in [[lures & jigs]] (during the fishing Easter egg scene with Senor Cardgage).
**The creepy music during Strong Sad's storyboard scenes from [[Sbemail 150?!?]] (during the Coach Z Easter egg).
*The fence used for the puppet Strong Badia set is the same one used in [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]].
*The Easter egg with coffee-drenched Coach Z and the eyeball pear begins exactly as described and storyboarded by Strong Sad in [[Sbemail 150?!?]]. Also, the word ''sesquicentenn-email'', which would mean "150th email", was coined by Strong Sad in Sbemail 150?!?.
*The fishing boat, lake and background sounds are all from [[lures & jigs]].
*The woman on Strong Badman's television is holding a [[Big Knives|Big Knife]].
*"Doge" is a reference to [[Biz Cas Fri 1]], where Homestar misspells the word "dog" ("dawg") the same way.
*This marks the second time in which characters from at least two different universes come together in one universe. The first time was in [[20X6 vs. 1936]], in which The Homestar Runner shows up on [[Planet K]].
*Strong Bad comments that the "Dig To China With Your Ears Contest" is the "second or third to worst contest I ever heard of." The worst contests that originated in children's storybooks are likely to be the "Strongest Man in the World Contest" from the [[Original Book]], and the "Ten Step Footrace" from [[flashback]]. 
*This is another appearance of the [[Dangeresque]] sunglasses.
*The word "VOIP" is a reference to [[The Robot|The Robot's]] sound effect from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].
*Strong Bad previously mentioned "real fruit smoothies" in [[mascot]] when the team won the game.
*Homestar Runner's "real fruit smoothie" is another example of a [[Concoctions|concoction]].
*Stinkoman's line in the song "I hope it's from a girl" is a referance to the e-mail song in [[dragon]], "Every week I hope that it's from a female!".

=== Real-World References ===
* [[Wikipedia:Cacodemons|Cacodemons]] are evil spirits or demons, the opposite being an angel or "agathodemon". However, the name cacodemon is better known as the flying, red, one-eyed enemy from the ''[[Wikipedia:Doom|Doom]]'' series of computer games. The plot for these games involved demons escaping hell via portals.
* [[Wikipedia:Adobe Photoshop|Adobe Photoshop]] is a widely used image editor from Adobe Systems Incorporated. The term "[[Wikipedia:Photoshopping|Photoshopped]]" has come to mean any digital edit done to an image, even if it wasn't done in Photoshop itself. The term is often used pejoratively to say that something is rather obviously edited.
* The pronunciation "ohbee kaybee" for "okay" was frequently said by the character Mushmouth on the animated ''[[Wikipedia:Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids|Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids]]''.
* The way Strong Bad travels from panel to panel while visiting Strong Badman may be inspired by the videogame ''[[Wikipedia:Comix Zone|Comix Zone]]''.
* [[Wikipedia:She-Hulk|She-Hulk]] is a comic book heroine from [[Wikipedia:Marvel Comics|Marvel Comics]] and the cousin of ''[[Wikipedia:Hulk (comics)|The Incredible Hulk]]''. She-Hulk comics were once noted for their [[Fourth Wall Breaks|fourth-wall breaks]], similar to Strong Bad's comments on the quality of the Strong Badman comic and his ability to travel from panel to panel. These not-always-appreciated gags were introduced by writer [[Wikipedia:John Byrne|John Byrne]], who may be the "genius" Strong Bad ridicules.
* The surreal Coach Z Easter egg is an homage to a famous scene from the similarly surreal TV series, ''[[Wikipedia:Twin Peaks|Twin Peaks]]''. The background for the scene featured red drapes, and the starring character, Dale Cooper, spills coffee on himself, represented here by Coach Z's streaming hat of coffee. The unusual speech used by Homestar, meanwhile, was the hallmark of the scene; the actors actually spoke their dialogue backwards, and the recording was then played in reverse, so that the words were heard by the audience in their proper order (though they still sounded unusual and contorted, just as Homestar sounds here). It seems as though Matt Chapman faked this technique, rather than actually recording his lines backwards. ''Twin Peaks'' was co-created by director [[Wikipedia:David Lynch|David Lynch]], who Strong Sad cited as an influence in [[Sbemail 150?!?]]. Additionally, the phrase "I'm not at liberty to discuss [...]" is a direct lift from the lines of Major Garland Brigs, a character on Twin Peaks, who is often unable to talk about what he does for a living.
* [[Wikipedia:Alonzo Mourning|Alonzo Mourning]] is an NBA basketball player.
*The phrase 'maxed and relaxed' may be a reference to the ''[[Wikipedia:The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air|Fresh Prince of Bel-Air]]'' theme song, in which [[Wikipedia:Will Smith|Will Smith]] states he is "maxin' and relaxin' all cool". Additionally, Smith uses the phrase throughout the series and his own raps.
*Stinkoman calls Strong Bad "big nose", a derogatory term used in eastern Asia to describe Westerners, whose noses tend to be genetically larger than Asians'. This is also a reference to the anime art style, where noses are less pronounced than most American cartoons.
* The all-star super group recording a number one jam calls to mind [[Wikipedia:Band Aid (band)|Band Aid]] (a collaboration of forty-four artists in the UK and Ireland organized by [[Wikipedia:Bob Geldof|Bob Geldof]], releasing the hit single "Do They Know It's Christmas?" in 1984, the profits from which were used for famine and disease relief in Africa) and the similar [[Wikipedia:USA for Africa|USA for Africa]] (a group of forty-five U.S. musicians that collaborated on the number one single "We Are the World" in 1985).
*The [[Fonts|font]] in the comic book alternative universe, known as "Peanuts", was designed to emulate the style of lettering used in the ''[[Wikipedia:Peanuts|Peanuts]]'' comics.
* The [[Sound Effects|sound effect]] in the fishing Easter Egg that starts right after Strong Bad says "Wow, a fishing trip with Senor Cardgage!" is from ''[[Wikipedia:Fishing with John|Fishing With John]]''.



==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|150|7671}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}

[[Category:Old-Timey]]
[[Category:20X6]]

HomestarRunner.com: PAY PLUS!

Rogue Leader — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 22:58:39 GMT

Rogue Leader: Revert, already there

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|payplus|Homestar Presents: Presents|Senorial Day}}
[[Image:Payplus.PNG|thumb|"Finally At Last!!!"]]

It's April Fool's day and—Oh no! HomestarRunner.com is now a subscription site!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}'s head, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, [[Frank Bennedetto]], [[Sterrance]], {{Film|Bubs}} ''(morphed into his concession stand)'', {{Film|Vector Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Stinkoman}}, {{Film|Rather Dashing}} ''(silhouetted)'', {{Film|Eh! Steve}}, [[The Wheelchair]], [[Ready For Primetime]], [[Keyboard Strong Bad]], [[The Worm]], [[Sherlock]], [[Mr. Shmallow]] ''(watermark)'', {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|So and So}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, {{Film|Arrow'd Guy}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Computer Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

''' Date:''' April 1, 2005

'''Page Title:''' Finally At Last!!!
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== Transcript ==

===Page One===
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====Homestar's Seven Seconds====
''{Cue Homestar standing in the field. A timer counts up in the bottom left corner of the screen starting at 0.15 seconds.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One... two... three... four... fi-

''{The timer reaches 7.15; a buzzer goes off, and "TRIAL PERIOD OVER!" pops up on the screen.}''

===Page Two===
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====Strong Bad "Trap Door" Sample====

''{Cue Strong Bad sitting in front of his computer, flanked by the Cheat, who is holding a remote control. Homestar is standing on a brown trapdoor in front of Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, the Cheat, let 'er rip!

''{The Cheat presses the button on the remote. The trapdoor opens under Homestar's feet. He falls about two feet and stops.''}

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Woo! That was fun!

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, I thought we were opting for the [[Bottomless Pits|bottomless pit]]. ''{Homestar starts a little dance with his feet, stepping back and forth gracefully.}'' ... Not a two-foot pit!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to the basement, where Strong Mad sits on the couch with Homestar's feet dancing on top of him.''}

'''STRONG MAD:''' I HAVE A FUNNY HAT!

===Page Three===
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====Sample Game====
The free sample game resembles Space Invaders with Strong Bad against an army of Homestars coming out of the sky. The Cheat periodically falls from top to bottom and if he hits you, a message will appear saying "YOUR"
"HEAD" (changes to SHIP a second later)
"ASPLODE". Trying to play the game is difficult because the screen continually flashes the message "TRIAL VERSION", locking the game controls. The game also automatically closes itself after the 14th  "TRIAL VERSION" screen, keeping you from advancing.

===Page Four===
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====Teen Girl Squad Sample====

''{Cheerleader, So and So, and The Ugly One are standing around. Cheerleader's shirt reads "sperld rott'n".}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' That stupid wheelchair kid asked me to the Friday Night Dance! But I'm going with Steven!

''{Enter Eh! Steve!, wearing a football uniform with the number nine}''

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'''EH! STEVE:''' Eh! Steve!

''{Cut to Wheelchair}''

'''WHEELCHAIR:''' I'll teach you to steal my date, Eh! Steve! I'm gonna come outta my shell at the Friday Night Dance and show everybody who's whooooooooooo!

''{Arrow'd Guy, with fairy wings, a tutu and a wand, enters and changes the Wheelchair into a realistic drawing of a wheelchair.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{narrating}'' GOOD DRAWINGED!

'''WHEELCHAIR:''' I'm a real boy!

''{Cut to the "It's Over!" splash screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{narrating}'' It's over!

===Page Five===
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===Page Six===
<blockquote>Thank you for your order. 
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''{After about 15 seconds, you are returned to [[Main Page 19]].}''

== Fun Facts ==

=== Explanations ===
*The entire April Fool's site is a spoof of the preview pages on many pay-sites on the Internet: the trial videos, the free tour that ends with a sign-up page, the tacky design and layout, and the "streaming video game feeds" all mimic said pages.
**The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This spoofs how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content. However, this may be a reference to a perk of subscribing (viewing unaired Strong Bad E-mails).
**A recent trend for Internet entertainment sites (especially game sites) is to be free for a few years, and then the owners initiate a pay-to-play policy. Perhaps this April Fool's joke was done so the Homestar Runner site would fit the trend.

=== Trivia===
*When the page was first released, the navigation buttons at the bottom of the page weren't there, like [[Under Construction]].
*Pressing '7' on the keyboard (or the numeric keypad) during the trial game will toggle the gray 'TRIAL VERSION' message. If it's onscreen, it will vanish. If it's not onscreen, it will appear. Holding down the 7 key rapidly toggles the message on and off. The 7 key has no effect at any other time.
*The screenshots on the first page show:
**Senor Cardgage showing a pie chart to Homestar, dressed in [[Homestar Runner's Sleepwear|his pajamas and robe]] from [[caper]]
**Strong Bad with the [[Lappy 486]] as The Cheat serves him Strong Sad's head on a platter.
**Strong Mad on [[The Couch]] wearing Homestar's Homestarmy bowl, next to Frank Bennedetto.
*The screenshots on the second page show:
**Strong Bad at the [[Tandy 400]] with Sterrance (from [[animal]]) in the foreground.
**Strong Bad destroying a city (à la [[Wikipedia:Godzilla|Godzilla]]).
**Strong Bad in front of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], which has gained Bubs' eyes and mouth.
*The third page has:
**A screenshot from [[StrongBadZone]] with the quote "A SPLODE IS A LOT".
**The boxes for the [[Videlectrix]] games [[Planet Alert!]] and [[Spaceshipper]].
**The sprite of Stinkoman from [[Stinkoman 20X6]].
**A screenshot from [[RhinoFeeder]].
**A screenshot from the Videlectrix game [[Rabbit Algebra]].
*There is a [[HR:payplustile.jpg|background tile]] image, but it's only a tiny black line.
**The line actually gradients to grey as it nears the center, but in front of a default white background, it is almost impossible to see. When the image is tiled on a black background, then the gradient forms a line that we can see.
*If Homestar made it only to five at the end of the Seven Second Trial, he was counting at the rate of one for every 1.4 seconds.
*Using a Flash decompiler, it is possible to see that The Brothers Chaps left ALL of the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|games menu]] in the 7 Second Trial Game instead of just the necessary objects.
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#hunt the wumpus|hunt the wumpus]]".
*Except for the buttons and movie clips, all content featured on this toon are JPEGs.
*In the math problem shown in the screen shot of Rabbit Algebra, x = ±4.

=== Remarks ===
*Right clicking and selecting "play" will quickly advance you, page by page, to the very end of the presentation.
*None of the screenshots on the first two pages are from actual toons or emails. The StrongBadZone screenshot contains a quote not found in the game.
*Strong Bad is seen with the [[Tandy 400]] in one of the screenshots, with Sterrance from the email [[animal]] even though that was a [[Lappy 486]] era email.
*Homestar is shown standing on Strong Mad's head after falling through the trapdoor, yet in [[The Li'l Brudder Show]], [[Strong Bad's Basement |the basement]] was shown to have a much higher ceiling.
*Saying that a new Sweet Cuppin' Cakes episode will come out every week pokes fun at the fact that Sweet Cuppin' Cakes almost never gets any new episodes.
*If you shoot all the Homestars in the trial game, a second wave appears.
*On the first page, the right column of pictures is titled "Instant Access", but at the end, it states "You will receive your package in 6 - 8 weeks."
*The presentation refers to an "everybody dies" episode of [[Teen Girl Squad]]; however, at the time of this cartoon, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Issue 8]] had already included every character dying. Since then, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|Issue 9]] and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|Issue 10]] have too.

===Goofs===
*Pressing the back button while watching the "Let's see a clip!" preview on page 2 will not make the Clip close, but it does close if you go back to page 2. This does not work if you hit "Show me more, sir!" or on any other of the previews.
**Though if you right click and click rewind while watching the other samples, it goes to the first section. It zooms in on the game.
*In the 7 second trial (which is actually 7.15 seconds long, according to counter), the counter in the corner is counting by seconds and then 60ths of seconds. If you watch it frame by frame in the swf. file, you can see the decimal counter is going at 5 60ths of a second per frame, which means the decimal goes up by 5 every frame. At the end of any second, the counter does not go from 55 to 0, it goes from 55 to 60, and then to 65, and then to 10.
*On the "The Email Show" page, in the middle of the screen, Strong Bad's eyes are a much lighter shade of green and have lost the shadow on the tops of his eyes.
*The black part of Sterrance's face mask is not present in his screen shot.

=== Inside References ===
*When your ship is destroyed in the trial game, the message "YOUR HEAD A SPLODE" appears, with "head" changing to "ship" a split-second later. This is an obvious reference to [[StrongBadZone]] and another appearance of "[[A Splode]]"
*All the sprites in the trial game come from the secret games on [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]].
*The "cred" card shown on page five belongs to [[Leomard Sportsinterviews|Lem Sportsinterviews]], who is a member of the [[Superfied Credit Union]]. This is a reference to the [[credit card]] email and to the [[Downloads]] page.
*The Cheat uses a [[Single-button remote control|single-button remote control]].

=== Real-World References ===
*The trial game resembles another Homestar Runner game, [[Armless Invaders]], which in turn resembles the arcade game, [[Wikipedia:Space Invaders|Space Invaders]].
*The two video game boxes with "fake boxes" captioned near them is a reference to many video game shops that use fake or empty boxes for display to prevent theft.
*"I'm a real boy!" is an obvious reference to [[Wikipedia:Pinnochio|Pinocchio]], a wooden puppet who was turned "real" and made a similar remark in at least one version of the story.
*"I'll teach you to steal my date, Eh! Steve! I'm gonna come outta my shell at the Friday Night Dance and show everybody who's who!" and the #9 jersey are references to the movie [[IMDB:tt0112368|Angus]].
*The "Interactive Menus!!!" is a clear reference to cut rate DVDs. While most DVDs offer additional features like Director Commentaries, and "Making Of" featurettes, cheap DVDs and DVDs of movies that didn't make enough money to make such featurettes have to get by with advertising Interactive Menus as a bonus feature. This was also referenced in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]] and the back cover of [[Everything Else, Volume 1]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:payplus.html|View "PAY PLUS!"]]
*[[HR:payplus2.swf|View the Flash file for "PAY PLUS!"]]
*View the component Flash files for:
**[[HR:7seconds.swf|Homestar's Seven Seconds]]
**[[HR:sbsample.swf|Strong Bad "Trap Door" Sample]]
**[[HR:SevenSecondTrialGame.swf|Trial Game "Homestar Invaders"]]
**[[HR:tgsample.swf|Teen Girl Squad Sample]]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}
[[Category:April Fools]][[Category:Teen Girl Squad]][[Category:Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]][[Category:Not Quite Strong Bad Emails]]

Pizza

Rogue Leader — Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:49:30 GMT

Rogue Leader: Not a running gag

[[Image:bluelazerpizza.PNG|thumb|220px|"Shut it! Pizza can't talk!"]]
It is unknown if it's one of [[The Brothers Chaps]] (or one or more of their acquaintances') favorite foods, or if it is just a common food, but '''[[Wikipedia:Pizza|pizza]]''' shows up a lot in the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] world.

== Appearances ==
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 2.0]] — [[The King of Town]]'s first attempt at calling Marzipan is interrupted when the pizza he ordered arrives.
*Email [[stand-up]] — [[Lil' Strong Bad]] compares cafeteria pizza to cardboard.
*[[Everybody to the Limit]] — [[Strong Bad]] is so impressed by the video, he tells [[The Cheat]] "I'm buyin' you a pizza!"
*Email [[crazy cartoon]] — Strong Bad thinks the Cheat's cartoon deserves neither pizza, nor a [[Trophies|trophy]], but maybe a pizza-trophy.
*Email [[privileges]] — The Cheat exercises his pizza topping privileges by ordering a pizza with mushrooms and Pop Tarts from [[Bubs' Old Pizza]].
*Email [[anything]] — [[Homestar Runner]] says he once made breakfast out of cold pizza and half and half.
*Email [[mile]] — [[Powered by The Cheat]] Strong Bad reveals that The Cheat is available for proms and pizza parties.
*[[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]] — The liner booklet that comes with the CD has a poster for [[The Kinda Long-Haired Band]] promising "After Party @ Wild's Pizza!".
*Email [[kind of cool]] — Strong Bad thinks [[Senor Cardgage]]'s [[Aldi Bag]] may have cold pizza in it.
*Email [[pizzaz]] — Strong Bad accidentally says and types the word "pizzas" instead of "pizzaz".
*[[Sketchbook (video)]] — One of the early [[Trogdor]]s has a melting pizza face.
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents]] — Another box of "Bubs' Old Pizza" lies on the floor of [[Strong Bad's Basement|Strong Bad's basement]].
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] — [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#The School|The school]] is serving a breadtangle of pizza for lunch.
*Email [[rock opera]] — The word "pizza" from the email stand-up is heard, and several pizzas appear in the background
*Email [[Family Resemblence]] — Strong Bad expresses his desire to watch a movie, order some pizza, and play board games with [[Pom Pom]]'s [[Pom Pom's Hypothetical Family|hypothetical family]].
*[[Commandos in the Classroom]] — One of the techniques [[Gunhaver]] teaches the [[Cheat Commandos]] in dealing with inappropriate peer-to-teen choice behaviors is to envision your inappropriators as giant slices of pizza, while [[Reynold]] confesses he has never had pizza before. [[Blue Laser Commander]] and one of his [[Blue Laser minion|minions]] later dress up as actual giant pizza slices.
*[[Awexome Cross]] — The Cheat finally gets his pizza-trophy.
*[[Mellow Mushroom]] — The whole site is pizza-themed for a chain of pizza restaurants.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]] — When Strong Mad, Strong Sad and The Cheat catch him making out with a picture of [[The Ugly One]], Strong Bad claims it's a piece of pizza.
[[Category:Food and drinks]]

Main Page 4

Rogue Leader — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 23:04:10 GMT

Rogue Leader: Um... I don't see the point of the fun fact

{{mainnav|4|3|5}}
[[Image:Main4.PNG|220px|thumb|Mr. 300!]]

Homestar Runner is in a [[Wikipedia:Bowling|bowling]] alley.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}} (bowling ball)

'''Places:''' A bowling alley

'''Icon:''' Bowling ball and pin

'''Page title:''' "The Comeback Kid!! Also known as Homestar Runner!"

==Button Effects==
*'''[[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons]]''' - A bowling ball with Eddie Van Halen's "Frankenstein" stripe scheme bowls a strike.
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' - A watermelon-colored bowling ball gets a 7-10 split. Scroll again and the ball hits both pins for a spare.
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' - The lights dim, some lighting effects come on, and "[[The System Is Down (song)|The System is Down]]" is played.
*'''[[Downloads]]''' - Homestar holds a ball that looks like Strong Bad.
*'''[[Store]]''' - A bowling ball that looks like a globe falls through the floor.
*'''[[Email]]''' - The globe ball rolls down the gutter.

== Fun Facts ==
*For a while a sample from ''Renegade Master'' by [[Wikipedia:Fatboy Slim|Fatboy Slim]] was played when "Characters" was rolled over. (See [[Secret Pages]] for the loop.)
*The lighting effects are nearly the same as [[The Cheat]]'s light raves that he makes with his own special [[The Cheat's Lightswitch|light switch]] in [[Computer Room|Strong Bad's computer room]], as seen in the email [[techno]], which also included "The System is Down".
*The 7-10 split is the hardest spare to pull off in bowling.
*The globe bowling ball is the same image used in [[Main Page 1]] and is similar to the one used in the [[Theme Song Video]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:main4.html|go to Main Page 4]]
*[[HR:main4.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 4]]
{{Main Page}}

[[Category:Main Pages]]

dangeresque 3

Rogue Leader — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:03:28 GMT

Rogue Leader: Revert, it was better before

{{sbenav|106|replacement|cheatday}}
[[Image:sbemail106.PNG|thumb|"Looks like we're gonna have to jump!"]]

On receiving an e-mail about [[Dangeresque]] 3, Strong Bad reveals that he hasn't made it. Instead, he gives us a director's cut of Dangeresque 1.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}/[[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]], {{Film|The Cheat}}/[[Istanbul]], {{Film|Coach Z}}/[[Renaldo]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}/[[Dangeresque Too]], {{Film|Strong Sad}}/[[Hot Tub]], {{Film|The King of Town}}/[[Perducci]], {{Film|Strong Mad}}/[[Killingyouguy]], {{Film|Marzipan}}/[[Cutesy Buttons]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Smoky Office]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' June 21, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 4:52

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, here comes little e-mail, with a gun in his hand...

''{reading}''
<blockquote class="email">hi there strong bad, 
 
i was just wondering, when is 
dangeresque 3 comeing out? 
 
yours truly, 
john newell, on</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "comeing" as it is written ("koh-may-ing") He also pronounces "john newell, on" (Ontario) as "johnny well, on."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa. I left my Johnny Well on. ''{He deletes "on" and types "off."}'' Johnny Well: off.

''{The sound of a large machine powering down plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man, peoples won't leave me alone about this one! ''{clears screen, typing}'' Okay, okay, okay, okay. Dangeresque 3 production update! Day 114: Things are comeing ''{again pronounced "koh-may-ing"}'' along right on schedule. So far, we seem to have only hit one major snag. Um, and that is I haven't um, ''{as he types, the text gets smaller and Strong Bad speaks under his breath}'' made Dangeresque 3 yet. ''{clears screen, text size returns to normal}'' But, before you start throwing full wine bottles at your computer screen, let me offer this as a cop-out: the digitally remastered director's cut of: ''Dangeresque 1: Dangeresque, too?''

''{Cut via static to Strong Bad wearing his Dangeresque glasses, sitting in the [[Gremlin]], pretending to drive and humming the Dangeresque theme tune. The Cheat repeatedly runs by in the background holding a small tree to give the impression of movement. A card is held up in front of the camera, moving around a little, reading: Dangeresque 1: "Dangeresque, Too?" followed by another, reading "Not in 3-D."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''Brring... brring...'' Oh, my car phone. ''{He picks up a VCR with a phone cord coming out of it.''} You got Dangeresque. Who this is?

''{Cut to Coach Z in his Renaldo costume. He is looking straight at the camera.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Now?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{whispering, off-screen}'' Yeah, go, go.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{He turns away from the camera and holds an [[Disconnected Telephones|unplugged phone]] receiver up to his ear.}'' Dangeresque, it's Renaldo. I need you back here away, right? I mean, right away.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{off-screen}'' Uh, I'm in a car right now, but I can drive it to the office.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{unemotionally}'' Sounds like a plan. ''{turns back to the camera}'' How was tha—

''{Cut to Strong Bad in his car.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hang on, car phone! Get ready for some fancy driving!

''{Strong Bad makes the sound of a car squealing around corners while the camera moves left to make it seem as if he's moving forwards. One of the Gremlin's hubcaps rolls from the left of the screen. We then cut to the office. Strong Bad opens the door and walks in.}''

'''COACH Z:''' What took you so long?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I had to swing by Cool Weapons Surplus for a new nunchuck gun. ''{He holds up a gun with a [[Wikipedia:Nunchaku|nunchaku]] taped to it.}'' And a Reesy Cup milkshake. ''{He holds up a milkshake cup with "Reesy Cup" printed on it.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Well, anyways, I called you in to meet your new partner: Dangeresque, too?

''{The camera pans right to Homestar Runner, wearing sunglasses.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' The name's Dangeresque. Nice to meet ya.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whaaa?

'''COACH Z:''' Dangeresque!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah? 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What? ''{simultaneously}''

''{They both turn and glare at each other to the accompaniment of a shock riff made by Strong Bad over the top.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Perducci's intercepted the serum at the border! ''{He holds up the [[Periodicals|newspaper]] from [[stunt double]], this time with a taped-on headline reading "PERDUCCI IS THE BAD GUY."}'' If that serum doesn't make it through, they'll kidnap Cutesy Buttons!

'''STRONG BAD & HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{shaking fists}'' Perducci!

''{Cut to Homestar and Strong Bad playing racquetball in the basement (with Strong Bad's rendition of the Dangeresque theme tune as an accompaniment). Homestar serves the ball and they play a frantic volley, which ends when Strong Bad nearly hits Homestar's head with the ball.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{He removes his sunglasses.}'' What is your malfunction?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's get one thing straight, meatball...face...butt: I work alone. 'Cept when I work with Renaldo...which is all the time.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh yeah? Well, you need me because I'm the only one that knows where Perducci is, and where that is is that he is...in...Istanbul.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Istanbul! Of course!

''{Blackout fade to the Field, with a musical interlude from Strong Bad. Homestar Runner and Strong Bad are standing next to The Cheat, who is wearing a sign saying "Istanbul."}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Perducci's got to be here around in Istanbul somewhere.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I hope you're right. We’ve got to get that serum through...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Let's ask this passers-by.

''{Strong Sad walks by, holding a sandwich.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What do you know about Perducci, doughboy?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ugh, I told you guys already I'm not going to be in your stupid movie!

''{The frame "jumps." Same shot, but now Strong Bad is holding Strong Sad's sandwich.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —what do you know about Perducci?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{reluctantly}'' Only that I am not one of his minions.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, thanks anyways. Move it along, hot tub!

''{Strong Sad walks out.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That stranger seemed to know a little bit too little about Perducci...

''{With another musical interlude, blackout fade to Strong Sad and the King of Town (who is silhouetted), on top of Bubs' Concession Stand. The King of Town is wearing a bowler hat.}''

'''KING OF TOWN:''' What? Two Dangeresques? ''{He turns to the camera, revealing that he is wearing a blue coat, sunglasses and a name-tag reading "Hello, my name is perducci."}'' Well, they'll still be no match for my secret weapon!

''{Cut to a silhouetted Strong Mad, whose gleaming white eyes are the only visible feature of his body. Strong Bad makes a scary tune over the top, then sings the first two notes of the Dangeresque theme song as we cut to Homestar Runner and Strong Bad standing on top of a large sheet of wood, with lines drawn on it to look like a tall building, holding a horizontal rope. The frame "jumps" again to the same shot, but rotated ninety degrees so that it looks as if the Dangeresques are climbing the building.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Once we get to the top of this high-scraper, we'll hopefully be able to throw some people off. Maybe even Perducci.

''{They continue to "climb." As Homestar's glasses fall onto the wood we quickly cut to the top of the Concession Stand, where the Dangeresques meet the King of Town.}''

'''KING OF TOWN:''' Dangeresque!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah? 
'''STRONG BAD:''' What? ''{simultaneously}''

'''KING OF TOWN:''' Allow me to introduce you to both my secret weapon and your doom: ''{King Of Town's hat flies up}'' Killingyouguy!

''{Strong Mad appears, raising his arms menacingly. The M on his singlet has been replaced with "KILLINGYOUGUY" and two post-its with a bullet hole and a scar drawn on have been stuck to his face. Strong Bad imitates a guitar screech over the top.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh. Gad.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That guy is tall.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER & STRONG BAD:''' You take the big guy.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' The pipes are broken!

''{He leaps off. We cut to Homestar, suspended by a rope, whirling around and kicking Strong Sad repeatedly in the face. Strong Sad has a paper bag with Strong Mad's face, a bullet hole and a scar drawn on it on his head and is wearing his singlet.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{There is one exclamation for each hit.}'' Oof! Ow! Ouff! Ouwh! Getting! Dizzy! Blacking! Out! Oof! Geez! Oouf!

''{We then cut to Strong Bad, Coach Z (silhouetted) and Homestar (looking down on the fallen Strong Mad).}''

'''COACH Z:''' Nice work there, Dangeresque!

'''STRONG BAD & HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks. ''{forced laugh}'' Ahahahahaha.

''{Marzipan, as Cutesy Buttons, approaches Coach Z, holding a glass of iced tea, with ice cubes and mint bobbing on the surface.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Mmm. Thanks for the serum, boys. Now I won't be kidnapped.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh no...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER & STRONG BAD:''' ...Looks like we're going to have to jump!

''{They both jump off the Concession Stand and end in a freeze frame, silhouetted against a sunset. The credits roll while Strong Bad sings.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Today is all right for tonight... 
Riding in a Corvette, feeling all right, 
Today is all right for tonight! 
Today is all right for tonight... 
Riding in a Corvette, feeling all right, 
All right for tonight!

'''Written and directed by Strong Bad'''

'''Dangeresque — Strong Bad''' 
'''Dangeresque — Homestar Runner''' 
'''Renaldo — Coach Z''' 
'''Perducci — The King of Town''' 
'''Cutesy Buttons — Marzipan''' 
'''Killingyouguy — Himself''' 
'''Passerby(Hot Tub) — El Dumpo''' 
'''Istanbul — The Cheat'''

'''Today is Alright 4 2Nite' written and performed by Strong Bad'''

''{We cut to a montage of pictures; the pictures appear in the following order: Strong Bad preparing to eat Strong Sad's sandwich (with Strong Sad protesting in the background); The Cheat washing the Gremlin while Strong Bad holds the sandwich; and The Cheat painting Strong Mad black on top of the Concession Stand. Then the screen turns black and both Dangeresques' cool glasses appear on the screen. "The End?" appears underneath them. The song ends and [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on Strong Bad's Dangeresque glasses at the end and you can download "[[Today is Alright 4 2Nite]]," a song from the movie made by [[Strong Bad]].

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*At the end of [[stunt double]], Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective was said to be coming out in June 2004, which is when this e-mail came out. Also, it was supposed to be 'In 3D', which is why the sign says 'not in 3D' at the beginning of this one.

===Trivia===
*This email was originally titled "dangeresque3" (without the space) but was changed within hours to "dangeresque 3".
*If June 21st of 2004 was the 114th day of production, that would place Day 1 on March 9th, meaning Strong Bad didn't even start Dangeresque 3 until seven and a half months after [[stunt double]].
*Up until the release of [[portrait]], the file sbemail106.swf was the biggest email to date, coming in at 1265KB. The only other emails that have come in over 1MB are "[[japanese cartoon]]", at 1131KB; "[[date]]", at 1032KB; "[[haircut]]", at 1066KB, and "[[portrait]]", at 1355KB. The large size is mostly due to the 3 frames of TV static (167KB from those 3 frames alone), and the noisy still image (287KB) at the end.
*The [[Wikipedia:Nunchaku|nunchuck]] gun has no trigger.

===Remarks===
*Although it is plain that Strong Bad does ''not'' do all his own stunts (despite his stating so in [[stunt double]]), at the end we see both him and Homestar jumping from Bubs' Concession Stand.
*If the credits are indeed correct, Strong Bad can play various musical instruments including guitar and drums.

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad's Dangeresque glasses lack the temples over the ears in the car scene.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's line "I work alone. 'Cept when I work with Renaldo. Which is all the time" is a line from "[[The theme from DANGERESQUE II: This time, it's not Dangeresque I]]", from [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]].
*Dangeresque's door reads (backwards) ''DANGERESQUE Private Eye/Crooked Cop'' which is also a throw to the Strong Bad Sings CD.
*The [[The VCR|VCR]] used for the car phone is from [[12:00]] and the [[Character Videos]] page.
*The newspaper is from [[stunt double]].
**To read the exact text of the newspaper, see trivia in [[stunt double]].
*"I'm gonna have to jump!" is a reference to the [[stunt double]], as is the whole e-mail.
*The Name Tag that The King of Town wears is from [[The Luau]].
*The car is the [[Gremlin]] from [[Homestarloween Party]].
*Strong Bad saying "That guy is tall" may be a reference to [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] where "Homestar" said, "All right, this guy is tall."
*The Cheat's "Istanbul" costume is a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]] where his "[[The Popular Vote|Popular Vote]]" costume looks almost the same.
*The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on [http://www.thoraxcorp.com/intern.html Thoraxcorp.com's intern page].

===Real-World References===
*The Corvette was one of the most popular sportscars made by Chevrolet.
*"What is your malfunction?" is a reference to Stanley Kubrick's Vietnam War movie ''[[imdb:tt0093058|Full Metal Jacket]]''.
*The scene of the two Dangeresques climbing up the "skyscraper" is a parody of [http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/7537/climb.htm The Bat Climb], a running gag from the old ''[[Batman]]'' TV series. Also, the final shot of the movie that says "The End?" is a reference to the 1966 ''[[imdb:tt0060153|Batman]]'' movie, which ends with a similar question.
*"The pipes are broken!" is Homestar trying to say "Tatsu Maki Sen Pu¯ Kyaku," a move from ''[[Wikipedia:Street Fighter II|Street Fighter II]]'' usually called the Hurricane Kick in U.S. versions of the game. The name is changed because the characters' voices in ''Street Fighter II'' are hard to understand (due to low-quality recordings), and sound like they are saying something else. He says this because the kick is the same as Ryu's and Ken's hurricane kick in the games/movies.
*Homestar's "shades" are Venetian blinds-style, and may have been inspired by the movie ''[[imdb:tt0094072|Summer School]]''.
*[http://www.hersheys.com/sundaebest/milkshakes.html#Peanut%20Butter%20Cup "Reesy Cup Milkshake"] is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Reese%27s_Peanut_Butter_Cup|Reese's Peanut Butter Cups]] candy, which is often served in milkshakes.
* Doughboy may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Pillsbury_Doughboy|Poppin' Fresh]], [http://www.tvacres.com/admascots_poppinfresh.htm The Pillsbury Doughboy].
*The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," could also be reference to the song "Little Man With a Gun in His Hand" by The Minutemen, one of Matt Chapman's favorite bands.


===Fast Forward===
*Homestar's "Hurricane Kick" becomes one of [[1-Up]]'s attacks in [[Stinkoman 20X6]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' Appropriately, this is our third try at the dangeresque 3 commentary.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, last time, Ryan came in, with the phone. Matt got a phone call.

'''MATT:''' But, see, and then Mike had the idea to keep doing the commentary while I was on the phone, and then I ruined it by stopping the recording.

'''MIKE:''' It would have been a good one.

'''MATT:''' It would've.

'''MIKE:''' Pretend you're on the phone.

'''MATT:''' All right. ''{in a high voice}'' Oh! Hello! This is.. the phone!

'''MIKE:''' All right, so this was, uh, about the time we said... Strong Bad said that, uh, Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective would come out.

'''MATT:''' June, of..

'''MIKE:''' June of 2004. We sorta considered actually doing it, but, of course, you know, it was supposed to be in 3-D, and we knew we weren't gonna...

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' See, this was our way of addressing it without really addressing it.

'''MATT:''' But, yeah. But, see, it's funny 'cuz people sort of, some people I remember...

'''MIKE:''' ...Still think that Dangeresque 3 is coming out.

'''MATT:''' Right. And they complained that, and it's just, but, you don't... you... you basically are getting Dangeresque 3. Here's something you've never seen, oh, aw, they just put that old "Dangeresque 1" up there. Uh, so Strong—

'''MIKE:''' Oh! You can see The Cheat in this scene! Look! You can see him running behind the car.

'''MATT:''' Oh, really. Oh really!

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, that was... did you frame that up?

'''MATT:''' Yeah! When we shot this, there were live cartoon characters in the background!

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, yeah, I mean, I gotta watch that stuff closer, because, I'm sure some other people may have noticed that.

'''MATT:''' ''{of Coach Z's first scene}'' Uh, I remember this being a problem a lot when we made movies as kids, with, uh, people, like, at the end of a take would immediately look at the camera and be like, "Was that okay? Did I do that right? Whatever?" Sort of like when we were doing the Peasant's Quest thing, my wife Jackie had a problem; she was never very confident with her performance.

'''MIKE:''' Sometimes she would start looking at the camera making a sour face before she was done with the line.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, she was not impressed with some of her performances.

''{pause until the Reesy Cup milkshake}''

'''MATT:''' Oooh. Let's go get those.

'''MIKE:''' Mm-hmm. Sonic?

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Sonic Burger?

'''MATT:''' I think we comment about Sonic Burger on the last DVD set. And how they're far away from us.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. I know. I wish... we talk about it a lot for a place I've only eaten at, probably, three times in my life.

''{pause until the racquetball scene}''

'''MIKE:''' Racquetball.

'''MATT:''' The racquetball scene.

'''MIKE:''' There's good racquetball in, uh, Cape Fear, right?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I think there's a very nice racquetball scene. And, uh, Splash!

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' John Candy is... he doesn't like playing. He gets really tired.

'''MIKE:''' We should start playing racquetball. And start watching Splash! Right now!

'''MATT:''' Take this out of the DVD player and put Splash in.

'''MIKE:''' I'll do it.

''{pause until they reach "Istanbul"}''

'''MIKE:''' So Strong Bad, er, rather, that's The Cheat there, Mike. The Cheat reprises his role as The Popular Vote from the Christmas episode as "Istanbul." We just had to modify his costume.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' This reminds me of, uh, my... our cousin Rafiel that lived with us for a while, and I remember him being the one that I would try... I would just force to be in movies.

'''MIKE:''' He never wanted to.

'''MATT:''' To the point of just, like, walking up to him with the camera and being like, "All right, here's the scene!" And he'd be like "No! Go away!"

''{pause until Perducci's silhouette}''

'''MATT:''' Who do you think that is, Mike? That black silhouette.

'''MIKE:''' That's the King, it's the King of Town.

'''MATT:''' I can't, who do you think that guy is...

'''MIKE:''' It's the King of Town...

'''MATT:''' In the derby hat...

'''MIKE:''' We just, we just showed him.

'''MATT:''' Who do you think THAT guy is?

'''MIKE:''' That's Strong Mad.

'''MATT:''' Oh.

'''MIKE:''' We made this cartoon. You should know.

'''MATT:''' This is a ref— a double reference to, obviously, the old Batman TV show where they would do this cheap special effect to be climbing up a wall, and then my friend Neil and I's attempt to do it in an episode of "Captain Idiot," I believe it was in.

'''MIKE:''' Not Agent Neil?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, and I think the first couple times we did it, we had the camera turned the wrong way, so we're climbing ''down'' the building.

'''MIKE:''' Ha ha! You guys are smart. Man, Killingyouguy has a giant bullet hole in his face. He's a tough man. Oh! That's like our buddy...

'''MATT:''' That, of course, what we... it sounds like Ken says in Street Fighter when he does the Hurricane Kick, or whatever it's called. "The pipes are broken."

'''MIKE:''' This whole thing is taking place on the only appearance of the ''top'' of Bubs' Concession Stand.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. That a mint julep or just an iced tea...

'''MIKE:''' I think it's an iced tea with mint in it.

'''MATT:''' Oh yeah, mint juleps are white...

'''MIKE:''' I think Hopkins, Hopkins has some great...

'''MATT:''' Ooh, yeah.

'''MIKE:''' ...mint iced tea.

''{Over the credits, Matt imitates the guitar in the music}''

'''MIKE:''' Uh... Hot Tub.... Hot Tub tea.

'''MATT:''' Uh, what else, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' I kinda just want to listen to the song and watch this.

'''MATT:''' This is the end of the mon... the photo montage he speaks of in the montage email.

'''MIKE:''' That's true!

'''MATT:''' It's happening just now. ''{laughs}'' Didn't just backlight Strong Mad, they actually painted him black.

'''MIKE:''' Ah, the continue, er, the end.

'''MATT:''' Uh-oh.

===Fun Facts===
*The "Peasant's Quest thing" refers to the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]], in which [[Jackie Chapman]] played the [[Baby Lady & Her Baby|Baby Lady]]. The outtakes were later released in the [[Peasant's Quest Outtakes]] bonus feature on [[Everything Else, Volume 1]].
*[[Wikipedia:Sonic Drive-In|Sonic Burger]] is a chain of fast-food restaurants. The Brothers Chaps did in fact talk about Sonic Burger on the last DVD set, in the [[comic#DVD Version|commentary]] for [[comic]].
*There have been two movies by the name of Cape Fear: one released in [[Wikipedia:Cape Fear (1962 film)|1962]] and a remake in [[Wikipedia:Cape Fear (1991 film)|1991]].
*[[Wikipedia:Splash|Splash]] is a 1984 movie about a man who falls in love with a mermaid. It featured [[Wikipedia:John Candy|John Candy]] as Freddie Bauer.
*[[Wikipedia:Mint Julep|A mint julep]] is a mixed drink with mint leaves and bourbon.

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|106|209}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Dangeresque]][[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

Talk:Three Is Four Tonite

Rogue Leader — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:31:13 GMT

Rogue Leader: Perhaps a page with a larger scope

==To Be Deleted==

This show was only mentioned for a few seconds on [[theme song]]. It does not warrant it's own page (I think). {{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:08, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
:I could see a page about all the television shows/commercials that took place during [[theme song]], but definitely not a page about one. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:31, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Timeline of Homestar Runner

Rogue Leader — Sat, 26 Aug 2006 04:40:31 GMT

Rogue Leader: Talk:homestar history moved to Talk:Homestar History: Proper caps... needs a new title...

==Cleanup? Delete?==
All the info in this article is covered in the various updates pages. Nonetheless, I could see some good in keeping this article as a brief summary of the high points of the history of H*R.com. If we do, though, it will need substantial cleanup and a page move (at least to correct capitalization, and I kind of think the title needs to describe what the article is about better. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:32, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
:I think this has potential but is currently in horrible form. I say keep and revise, provided there isn't a similar page. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:37, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think this page has potential. This reminds me of Timeline, which was eventually deleted. This seems like it could either be a massive updates page or a real world update page, but either way, it is covered in other articles.{{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:41, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
:::'''Cleanup and move'''. And set standards for what type of event will be chronicled. Less all-inclusive than the Updates pages, of course. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
::::RL: "Timeline" dealt with the in-universe history of FCUSA. This page attempts to capsulate the info already on Updates pages in order to facilitate "one page" viewing of the highlights of H*R real-world history. Does that change your vote in any way? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:58, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::My bad, I thought the 1996 was 1936, so I thought it was a timeline of in-universe history. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
:I suggest we include in this article items which are seminal to H*R (first sbemail, first MAM, first TGS, etc.), of significant stylistic or historical importance (Reddish Radish, Peasant's Quest, etc.), and real-life events which have influenced (or may influence) later work (Mike and Missy's baby, Matt and Mike's dad's death), as well as important anniversarys (100th email, 10-year anniversary toon). Any comments? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:34, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, I like this idea. Qermaq, your ideas for content seem like good ones. Let's also work on a new title. "Homestar History" isn't good, and neither is "Homestar Runner History", because this could refer to the character. For now, I'm thinking "homestarrunner.com History" or "History of homestarrunner.com". Any other thoughts? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:08, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, I think it's a great idea, too. When I was even more of a n00b, I always wished there was one place where I could find all this information easily. And I agree, only major events and milestones should be included. For example the first mention of main characters or new franchises (TGS, Puppet stuff). We should work on a good definition of what to include and what not to avoid LAME edit wars. As for the title, I think "(A) History of homestarrunner.com" sounds better than "homestarrunner.com History". {{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:20, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
::::History of homestarrunner.com works for me, lacking a better name for the corpus of work that constitutes the fodder for this wiki. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:35, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Depending of course on just how much is to be covered here, wouldn't the info on this page simply go on [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)]]? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:37, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Timeline of Homestar Runner

Rogue Leader — Sat, 26 Aug 2006 04:40:31 GMT

Rogue Leader: homestar history moved to Homestar History: Proper caps... needs a new title...

==Homestar History==
A long time ago... some people lived...and created Homestar.
This is a brief over view of the history of homestarrunner.com.

==1996==
*July-August— [[Craig Zobel]] and [[Mike Chapman]] write the [[Original Book]], "The Homestar Runner Enters the Strongest Man in the World Contest".
*September— Sketches are made for a second kids' book, "[[Homestar Runner Goes For The Gold!]]". It is never completed.
*[[Matt Chapman|Matt]] and Craig make [[Super NES]] for Mike's birthday.

==1999==
"Theme Song Video" and more cartoons were added.

==2001==
The infamous Strong Bad emails were relased with "Some kinda robot"

==IN PROGRESS==
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''Thank You!'

Talk:Timeline of Homestar Runner

Rogue Leader — Sat, 26 Aug 2006 02:59:46 GMT

Rogue Leader: My bad, I thought the 1996 was 1936, so I thought it was a timeline of in-universe history

Talk:Timeline of Homestar Runner

Rogue Leader — Sat, 26 Aug 2006 02:41:10 GMT

Rogue Leader: my vote

HRWiki:Da Basement

Rogue Leader — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 06:11:57 GMT

Rogue Leader: Yeah, I will do it!

:''"Da Basement" redirects here.'' {{for|the basement featured in Homestar Runner toons|Strong Bad's Basement}}
[[Image:The_Basement.PNG|thumb|300px|Where all the cool guys hang out]]

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== Block link on diff ==

I have often wished for a [[Talk:Main_Page#Contribs_link_on_Recent_changes|contributions link on recent changes]] and a '''link to the block page when checking the difference between pages.''' We now have both. If you come across vandalism when clicking a [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Da_Basement&diff=250160&oldid=249808 "diff" link], you don't have to click back to the recent changes list for a "block" button, because now there's one right under the vandal's name. Also, not too long ago I added the following link to the block page:
*Search the log for [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=User%3A(name+of+vandal) (name of vandal)]
This link automatically appears whenever you click on one of the "block" links, and it has the username or IP already filled in for you. That way, you can quickly and easily check to see whether a user has already been blocked before imposing one, and we can avoid double-blocking. (Just how long is ''two'' infinte periods of time, anyway? :) ) Keep on tranglin'. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:55, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

:Ooh, shiny! Look how easy it is to block notorious vandal It's dot com! Mwahahahaha! ;) Seriously, grood job. :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:07, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

::Blocking Dot com? Meh, it's been done... ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:00, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Says the user who once blocked himself coz he was bored. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Yup, I block all sorts of people when I'm bored. 'Cept JoeyDay. 'Cause, you know. Severe burnination being the result. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:18, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Severe burnination? He'd kill all your dogs! Well, now I'm done with the stupid references, so lemme get to the point. Why are Sysops able to block other sysops? I't just seems stupid, is all. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:24, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Supposing a sysop went bad... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::Unless Thunderbird go's a little trigger-happy with the blocking (and he's the only person I'd suspect) no one would ever go bad. I'm watching you thunderbird..........{{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:32, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== Navigation Templates ==
I think that [[Template:charnav]] and [[Template:toonnav]] are unneeded. Toonnav is unneeded for the same reason the Toons and Shorts templates were deleted - they have no connection. For example, [[20X6 vs. 1936]] has no relation to [[Arcade Game]] or [[The System is Down]], apart from the fact that they are shorts. As for the chararcter navigation, there's really nothing to decide what order they should go in apart from how they are stacked on the character page. It is made pretty much pointless by the template at the bottom, anyway.

And that's my six cents. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 06:17, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

:I'll give that one a hearty '''''AGREE'D!''''' We went through a similar phase, when we started making templates for a bunch of questionable groups, like Old-Timey. This is the same thing. Nav Templates are good, but I think this is a bit overkill. Anything more that I say will just echo Super Sam's other excellent points. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

::Also agreed. I wanted to sy something when I first saw them on my watchlist, but didn't had the time to. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:00, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

:::I disagree. They don't do any harm and just as in the <nowiki>{{sbenav}}</nowiki> template they serve as easy navigation. PDF files have arrows to easily get from one page to another, and so it does nothing but good to make it easy for users to go to the next toon in the logical sequence. For most that means date order, for others such as the charachter page, it is in the order that it appears on the screen and how we list them on the toon page. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:47, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Please remember that the nav templates serve two purposes: to easily browse through different toons and to easily 'watch' the toon in question without having to browse all the way to the bottom. I personally thought Old-Timey was too big for its own good, but complete removal was not something I was entirely happy with. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:20, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I don't have a strong opinion on whether there should or shouldn't be navigation at the top, but I should point out that needing the navigation template for the "watch" button is beside the point, because there's always the {{[[Template:watchtoon|watchtoon]]}} template. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::I kind of like the navigation templates. It's true that the toons and shorts don't have much relation to each other, but it's also nice to be able to just look through them all quickly without having to go back to the previous page and click on the next one. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:02, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I feel that they should be '''deleted'''. TBird pretty much sums up my beliefs. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Top of the World ==

I was wondering if it would be possible to have a <nowiki>[</nowiki>Top of Page<nowiki>]</nowiki> link next to the <nowiki>[</nowiki>edit<nowiki>]</nowiki> link?
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

:Why? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:24, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::Because it gets pretty annoying on long pages the scroll all the way to the top again. To see the table of contents or the top personal navigation buttons. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:30, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:::You might try poking around http://meta.wikimedia.org. They wrote this thing, so they know more about it than we do. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 00:10, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
::::You could also submit it as a [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org feature request] if it hasn't been submitted already. BTW the "End" button does the same thing, unless you want to be able to go straight to the TOC. So i can kinda understand there. But if the TOC's somewhere else (like at the bottom of the page or hidden) then where would it go? Where the toc goes? the very top if it's hidden? hide the button for that page? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:28, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I think he just means the top of the page. And don't you mean "Home" button? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:33, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::At the moment I am doing something that I swore I would never do...use a MAC, and the GUI doesn't even have one of the scrolly ball things. That, and no ''end'' or ''home'' button either. Problem-matic. Its just temporary as my '''normal''' PC is not hooked up to the internet. I was just throwing the jump to top thing out as a suggestion but if its not a popular idea then nevermind. I think when Tom responds with a simple "why?" that told me about how far this idea would go. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:09, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Watch links ==

Please shoot me dead if I'm posting erroneously. Or even wrong.

The sbemails have, at the top, a "watch" link. Wow, would it be cool to have that on every page directly describing a toon. As is I need to hit END, click the "watch 'homestar eats a sandwich'" link, and then HOME to follow the commentary. Top and bottom is a good thing.

Just a thought. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 05:15, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:Now I see that most have these now. My shame! I see we're all up ons with this. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 05:20, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, those nav templates have been popping up pretty much everywhere. Once the ball starts rolling on a project, the whole wiki's changed formats within a week usually. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:31, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

== Projects Makeover ==
''dicussion orignially from [[HRWiki_talk:Projects#Makeover|here]]''

I am posting this request in a high-visibility location as there has been very little feedback regarding [[HRWiki_talk:Projects#Makeover|this topic]] about a new layout for the Projects Page. The preliminary new design is linked from within that discussion. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:16, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

<blockquote>
I have applied IRF's [[User:Invisible Robot Fish/Projects|new look]] he had been working on for some time. Questions, comments, praise (or otherwise) can go here. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:16, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

:Wow, that came completely out of left field. There wasn't really a whole lot of discussion about this, was there? While I appreciate the '''boldness''', I'm not so sure this was ready to go live. I can see IRF has worked hard on it, and I certainly don't want to discourage this kind of forward thinking, but I really think this should be pulled down until more discussion can be held and more tweaking can be done. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:05, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

::I'll have to agree with Joey Day on that. While '''being bold''' is important, it's also important to get approval before taking on a project, even if that project happens to be the projects page. About the new look, I can personally appriciate the work that went into it. You did a very nice job, Invisible Robot Fish. However, almost every page on this wiki has the standard white background for all text. If we can get a bit of approval on this design and tweak the code some, I believe we can have a solid page. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:22, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Sorry about that guys. Most of the surprise would be my responsability. Instead of listing multiple reasons for my oversight, I will proceed to revert the changes and begin the discussion here. (IRF kept the two versions synchronized and I will do the same). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:48, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I had a discussion going on [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish#feedback_please.21|my talk page]] but there wasn't much discussion yet, feel free to tweak, discuss, whatever you want. I think that there should be some clear way to tell done projects from active or incomplete ones. We don't always have white backgrounds as evidenced by [[The Stick]], [[STUFF]] and others. Althought I admit that this design isn't ready yet (which is why I had it [[User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects|here]], I think it is close to being a ready to use design. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Just how many times do I have to <big>'''BEG'''</big> for people to help/review/tweak/critique [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish#feedback_please.21|here]] or here? I'm sorry for the frustration, but Stux is the only one that has even commented and I have asked multiple times. Other people are obviously aware of this but haven't contributed in any way. This is beginning to feel like a pocket veto. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:58, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
:Another week and still not one responce {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

::OK then. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 13:48, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I am copying the following [[HRWiki:Da_Basement#Projects Makeover|response]] from Tom:
<blockquote>I know I was very happy to see that [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AProjects&diff=261326&oldid=260652 you reverted] the change. I don't think the page needs any type of different style. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:48, 19 February 2006 (UTC)</blockquote>
(I personally like the new look, and IRF's rationale for the colors.)
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:15, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

:Here's a question: Why should this page have a special format? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:26, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
</blockquote>

:I know I was very happy to see that [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AProjects&diff=261326&oldid=260652 you reverted] the change. I don't think the page needs any type of different style. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:48, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
::Tom: I have copied your response to the Projects Talk page for IRF and everyone else to see. (I personally like the new look, and IRF's rationale for the colors.) Everyone else: if anyone has even the slightest feedback please let us know in that page. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:18, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Note: I have tweaked the design again [[User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects|here]] and am waiting for additional comments. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:04, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I would like to see a background Marzipan in the design somewhere again. Also I wouldn't mind splitting "Ongoing" projects from "Unfinished" projects. Besides that, I think it's looking good. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:09, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Correct "overruled" spelling, but it seems clear to me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:09, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

<blockquote>:Here's a question: Why should this page have a special format? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:26, 24 February 2006 (UTC)</blockquote>

Here was my rational... #1 Projects is a special page. It is not an article with information but a section to highlight what needs to be done on the wiki. It is directly linked from another special page <s>[[The Stick]]</s> [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]], which also has a special design. In the [[STUFF]] section, there are different colored sections to let the user easily know Fun Fact issues that are already settled. The color give an instant sence of ''oh, this is different, let me take note''. When I went to the [[HRWiki:Projects|Projects]] looking for something useful to do, I had a hard time knowing what was old and forgotten and what actually needed to be done. I felt that with the introduction of two different bg colors, that one who is scrolling would quickly be able to scroll to desired section because they stand out from one another.

Summary
*Precedent in pages like <s>[[The Stick]]</s> [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]],[[HRWiki:Introduction|Introduction]] and [[STUFF]] utilize different background for asthetic and practical reasons.
*Easy of use and functionality
*Crisp clean minty-fresh look!
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:58, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

:[[HRWiki:The Stick]] (not [[The Stick]]) and [[HRWiki:Introduction]] have different formats because they are mainly for-display pages. They are not edited on a regular basis, and are designed to look pretty while having things layed out in a visually pleasing mannar. [[HRWiki:STUFF]] has a special format because of the voting process that it uses, which Ben developed and which uses all sorts of special templates and so on.
:Putting a colored box around something isn't that complicated. As has been demonstrated, it can be done with a <tt><div style="border:something></tt> or I suppose even with a <tt><blockquote style="color:something"></tt>. If putting a colored box around two sections is all this is about, then I don't see a problem, but I don't see any advantage to giving this page a special format (<tt><div></tt>s of padding, tables, etc.). -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:04, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

::The sections could be divided into the categories you had them in, but as Tom said, there's no need to make this page visually pleasing like the more high-traffic pages that new users regularly hit. Not needing it is not to say that I don't like it. It looks excellent, but it's simply not necessary. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:12, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

:::I made a few alterations based on Tom's suggestion. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:22, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Last week I made the code much simpler and only made the div codes around the two sections. Tom, can you take a look at it again. I have restrained myself to only asking about this about once a week...I can't go much slower. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::I still don't see why it's needed, but I made a few changes to your proposal page. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:07, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Can I get an up or down vote here? I see a few people that like it, a few that don't and I don't want to kill it or put it up until I see more input.

The proposal is, should [[User:Invisible Robot Fish/Projects|this page design]] replace [[HRWiki:Projects|this page design]]?
=== Yes ===
# {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:55, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
=== No ===
# -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== Censorship ==
I've seen two, maybe three of his [Drwho's] sockpuppets make vulgar vandalism today. I, being an eleven year old, don't want to see this stuff (although I'm pretty mature for this age), and nobody else wants to see his absurd edtit summaries. We need to make a censorship plicy on the wiki, and urgently. By this I mean there might be something in the software that would allow any swearwords to be replaced with asterisks. If there is any way to do this, please do it fast, and leave out the freakin', crap, and other obligatory words in our wiki. If there is not, can you take away edit summaries so people don't have to see this? Thanks. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:53, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I'm uncomfortable with automatic censorship, and would not want to see it implemented here. I realize that sometimes it's a chore to police it manually, but I think we do a good enough job as it is. Most casual readers don't look at the inner workings, and so as long as we can keep it off the pages we should be fine. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:59, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::Then I guess the only reasonable thing to do is make sure all of the IP addresses Dr. Who's used are blcoked permanently. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Except that we don't block IP addresses permanently (not counting open proxies), but thanks for your concern. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Really? I thought at least ''some'' were blocked permanently. ??? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:05, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Some used to be, but they were unblocked after policy changes, going by a thread up above. Not even my IPs were; even a completely static IP that literally no one uses outside of my house was blocked for a mere 2 weeks, and another for 3 months. (unfortunately that one is ''still'' blocked, but it hardly affects me). {{User:Granola/sig}} 08:09, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::I also unblocked everything I saw that was a permanently blocked IP ''except'' some spammers. I have my reasons why I left the spammers blocked, though perhaps not even all of them need to be - I just didn't check which was which at the time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:23, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== Running Gags ==

I've made a [[Category talk:Running Gags#Sub-categorization|formal proposal]] for the sub-categorization of the [[:Category:Running Gags|running gags]] page. I'd really like critique and advice as to whether this is a worthy idea to go through with. Additionally, feel free add, merge, or otherwise tinker with the places the articles are to go in the table. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:13, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

:The job is already done, but I gotta say good work. I had been thinking myself about proposing we sort our runnings gags. I was impressed when I saw what you did in recent changes. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

And now for the Inside Jokes category. Please see the [[Category talk:Running Gags#Aftershock|followup discussion]] for the next stage. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:07, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

== Semi-protecting ==

'''[[HRWiki talk:Protected page#Suggestion: Semi-protect?|Read first]]'''. I think that semi-protecting the whatsnew and the featured article templates would be a fantastic way to prevent oodles of high-visibility vandalism while still allowing responsible users to edit. While Wikipedia suggests that semi-protecting should not be used as an outright prevention of vandalism, I think that this type of wiki could survive using semi-protection for this purpose. After all, WP's main page templates are fully protected; ours are fully exposed. A vandal has demonstrated a few weeks ago the ability to vandalize with offensive images without having to log in or upload anything, and I think it's high time to save the main page from this, without sacrificing the priveleges of responsible non-sysops. I suggest that we set the ability-to-edit-semi-protected-pages threshold for logged in users to 5, 10, or 15 edits. (And while I'm at it, I suggest the same for Moving pages. Sorry to be demanding, Dot com ''':)''' ). —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:The technical side of this would not be that difficult. The question is, what do we want our policy to be? Also, you're saying sysops need to be able to semi-protect and un-semi-protect specific pages, right? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:58, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Policy for this, roughly put, is to prevent vandalism on the main page templates, and to put a temporary lock on a page that is persistantly vandalized over a short period of time (if range blocks fail). We won't need to semi-protect very much for the latter reason because we can afford to block ranges when larger wikis can't. We will likely only need to semi-protect something under extraordinary circumstances, like if there's a massive world-wide timed crusade against [[Strong Bad Email]]. Oh, and affirmative on the sysop function. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::I've given this some thought, and I think that if we do end up semi-protecting any pages, we should prevent only annonies from editing. There have been cases where a relatively unknown user with only one or two edits has noted an update on [[Template:whatsnew]]. I know that this does leave us open to vandals creating throwaway a counts to vandalize semi-portected pages, but I think it's worth the risk. I am also not deadset on this, and my opinion could be changed if presented with a reasonable argument. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 03:40, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Letting brand new or extremely lightweight users edit whatsnew ''wouldn't'' decrease vandalism enough to be worth the risk. Our persistant vandals who know their way around a wiki would create throwaway accounts as often as AOL shifts their IP, and our purpose for semi-protecting it would be largely defeated; it wouldn't slow down main page template vandalism desirably. New and anonymous users with a new update can still post it on [[H*R.com updates 2006]], which unfortunately seems to have lost its priority to whatsnew more than it should have. It isn't going to be a problem if a new user cannot edit whatsnew, because once it is posted in H*R.com updates, it will certainly be added to the main page within minutes. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Just to help, here's the link to [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy|Wikipedia's Semi-protection policy]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:47, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::By the way, it looks like this functionality is a part of MediaWiki version 1.6 (see [[Bug:1735]]), so unless you all think this is a hugely pressing need, I'ma just wait until we upgrade instead of hacking our current version. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:00, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::Waiting is good for me. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:17, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I'm all for semi-protecting. Yesterday I came to the wiki and was greeted on the main page with "N- STOLE MY COW" in massave font, several hundred times in a row in the "what's new" box, which took significantly longer to load and stretched the page to enormous size. The Main Page was originally unprotected when I first came to the wiki, and it was started being protected for the same reason way back when. I think we're getting to the point where we should take it a step further, and protect against any user with less than a dozen edits or so. As an added bonus, this will give another editing perk to respected users, but those that aren't up to the level of sysop. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 14:20, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::::Semi-protecting won't stop heavy trolls, but other then full protection nothing does. If a small time troll want to edit the whatsnew and see a "view source" tag at the top of the screen, and he doesn't know about the semi-protaction, we will just move to another, less important page. I'm all for it. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:02, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::What is the extent of main page trolling, how often does it happen? I never seem to catch trolls so I don't know. If it is a nussance, then I say semi-protect it. I feel that if someone is a new user, they really don't have any business editing the main page. Its important that they learn the flow of how things are done here first. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:01, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::See [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:whatsnew&action=history&offset=0&limit=500 here], and look at the number of times an edit has been reverted. Most of those are troll edits. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:22, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::28 trolling total, in all of the template's life. Counted myself. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:27, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::::::::That's 310 days, so about once every 11 days. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:35, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::::Still, for something so main, I find it unprofessional for the possibility of visitors coming to our site, and being greeted with vandalism on the first page they see. Most of the updates are made by power users. If we miss something, annonys usually alert us on the Main page talk. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:45, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
<code>cout << endl;</code> I always here people talk about not wanting to be restrictive and and is something ''nessesary'', but my question is, what is the possible harm? Power users will still be able to do their thing, new users will be met with a friendly '''this section can be edited by users with x edits. Please contribute to a few more articles before attempting to update this page.''' I don't think think anyone will say, "forget it, if I can't edit 'what's new' on my first day, I'm leaving." It can only do good things like deter trolls. As I learned years ago, car alarms are stupid. When they go off, no one pays attention and they can be easily disabled usually. But with that said, my car alarm still kept two pesky teens from jacking my stereo. I didn't even hear the blasted thing go off, but found my car door open and my battery dead the next morning. The neighbors were pissed because they listening to ''punt reear'' all night, but my pricy stereo and CD's carelessly left on the seat were untouched. My point is this, yes anyone including bots can get arround this but the more people we deter, the better. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:28, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== User categories ==
I've been gone for a while, but now I'm back, and I noticed that userboxes have become somewhat of a craze lately. I like the idea, but I think so far it's been missing one thing that would make it very useful: user categories. I don't think every userbox should have a category associated with it, but I've come up with a few that I think would be practical. I'd like to propose the following four categories that users will be encouraged to add to their userpages (assuming they really belong in the category):

* [[:Category:Users who own strongbad_email.exe]]
* [[:Category:Users who own strongbad_email.exe Disc 4]]
* [[:Category:Users who own Everything Else, Volume 1]]
* [[:Category:Users who own Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]]

User categories like these would come in handy when trying to find wiki members who can help in situations like [[HRWiki_talk:Recent_changes_patrol#Check_this_edit|this]], where someone who doesn't own one of the above is trying to verify edits to transcripts. I want to emphasize that user categories should be kept to a very functional minimum. Categories like ''Users who love The Poopsmith'', while having the potential for a lot of fun, should not be allowed because they wouldn't serve any practical function. What do you think? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:I think it's a good idea, but kinda useless. Just my thoughts. And it's great to have you back, man. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

::I don't see the harm in it. Its also a good accountibilty thingy (to see which users are doing their part to TBC). j/k. Also welcome back Joey Day. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:::I find your reasons for the creation of these categories to be practical, but I believe it would end up being more hurt than help. The categories would fill with long lists of users, and only rarely is a merchandise check needed. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

::::I think user categories would be an extremely slipperly slope that we shouldn't go down. I'm already not ecstatic that we have the one category that we do. I don't want to get to the place where we have to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:The_thing&diff=266094&oldid=266092 police user categories]. In addition, if someone ''really'' needs to know that information, it is available in the [[:Image:Strong_Bad_Sings_CD.png#filelinks|what links here]] section of the respective userbox images. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::not everyone has gotten on the <s>woodaver</s> babel-box train though {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:40, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::Whether a user uses userboxes is irrelevant. He or she can still check the file links section of any given merchandise image. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:43, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Dot com stole my slippery slope argument, so I'll just add an example. I'm not saying this is included in the scope of your proposal, but we really don't need things like a [[Wikipedia:Category:Wikipedians with an underscore in their username|Wikipedians with an underscore in their username]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::::Another reason is the asking itself. If a user have a problem and needs information from one of the DVDs, it's better to leave the request on the page's talk page then asking a particular user. Doing so will resolve to a trend in asking only one user, which is bad. If someone have a problem, just leave a note on a talk page. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:45, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::Yeah, I gotta reiterate the "slippery slope" argument. If it helps at all, I own all of the above. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:17, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::::::Just throwing this out there, but why not just make a section on [[strongbad_email.exe]], [[strongbad_email.exe Disc 4]], [[Everything Else, Volume 1]], and [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]]' talk pages with a list of users that own that product? {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 01:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::Hello? Is anyone there? {{User:DBK/sig}} 03:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::::::::I guess no one thought that was necessary. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::::I guess youre right. Meh. {{User:DBK/sig}} 04:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== WikiTroll ==

I was thinking about this, so I'll ask it out loud: Is [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] necessary anymore? I can't remember the last time I referred to it for any reason. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:57, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

:I'm all for getting rid of it. Usually the offender is already blocked before they're even added. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:59, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

::I say just leave it unused, just for the rare situation that it could be used. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:01, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

::I concur with Dot com and T-bird. Now that we have more sysops with blocking privileges, we have someone blocked before you can say "Twees it." There are just those few very dull times where we may not have anyone on, but like I said—dull times. {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 00:02, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

:::The reason I bring this up is that it sometimes seems superfluous to block IP vandals who have already moved on anyway. And vandalism in progress that is caught by a sysop results in an immediate block. I'm not saying the page should be completely done away with, but its current format seems obsolete. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:13, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

::::How about "arms and legs and twees it out? Chest and flex and shoulder stance"! But I agree with Tom. I've seen countless times when people are taken over by the lack of sysops. I think that it is still ''somewhat'' useful. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:15, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::In those cases, was the WikiTroll page used ''by a sysop'' to result in a block? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:18, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::Maybe not, but there are other reasons why this page is useful. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:24, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Now, I've been a sysop for all of four days now, so my experience isn't exactly extensive. But I will say that I don't anticipate using WikiTroll that often. Whenever I come back to the wiki after being gone a few hours, I always just go back through the RC to find out what's happened since I left (and was doing this long before Tuesday, when I was sysopped), and if I see the edit summary "rv/v", I know something's happened and that I might need to block someone. So, I think Dot com has a point in suggesting that it may be unnecessary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:30, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::: I concur. Even though it's on my watchlist, I usually only actually open this page when I see it on Recentchanges or I'm tremenously bored. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:34, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::What about this: Say there's a troll who has been listed as an offender. Several edits go by without a sysop coming. There's a very, ''very'' good chance of that happening and the edits not showing up. Just saying. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:35, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Well, Seriously, I'm not sure the chances are all that good, especially now that we have as many sysops as we do (including [[User:E.L. Cool|some in]] [[User:Phlip|far-off time zones]]). I think you'd be hard put to find any situation, especially since the recent promotions, where it took ''anywhere near'' 500 edits between a vandal attack and the block. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:40, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yeah, maybe I'm stretching. I'm all up ons the idea of redirecting wikitroll tro recent changes. `— {{User: Seriously/sig}}
:::::::::::::I'm really not talking about how WikiTroll was ''intended'' to be used or even how it might ''hypothetically'' be used. The point of this thread is to find out from sysops whether it is being used by them at all and whether it should continue to exist in its present form. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I always just check Recent Changes for vandalism, I never use WikiTroll. I wouldn't mind if it were deleted. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 01:01, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Same here, Kilroy. I say unnecessary. {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 01:02, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::And for the argument of using it as an archive for offenders (should it arise), we have the [[Special:Log/block|block log]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:11, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::::::::::::: Yeah, I agree WikiTroll should be retired. I've thought WikiTroll was rather useless ever since we switched to MediaWiki. There are just better tools for dealing with trolls in MediaWiki than there ever were in 'Tavi. (Heh, seventeen colons in front of this!) — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 01:16, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::I suppose you are right. I now agree with delortion. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:30, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:All factors have come together to make WT obsolete. Sysops are watching recent changes around the clock, and they often check back a ways on RC to see what happened during their absense. Addressing one of Seriously's concerns, if a sysop misses a vandal or troll that gets buried in RC doesn't get blocked, it really doesn't matter: It's possible that a sysop didn't miss the edit and is choosing not to block, and if there were only one or two troll edits and the troll went away, it wouldn't do much good to block. Only vandalism that is ongoing is of any real concern. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
::Altough I never blocked anyone yet, I never used WikiTroll either. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:15, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:::WikiTroll has pretty much been less and less useful; I haven't used the page for weeks. Simply rolling back all the '''(top)''' edits after blocking the vandal is sufficient. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:05, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I concur. It always took ages to add a vandal to the table because it was way too complicated to do so! Indeed, WikiTroll is dead.
::::RIP WikiTroll 
::::Please don't dig up the grave. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 12:57, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== You have ''fake'' messages! ==
Look, before I go there's an issue I have to address. These fake "you have new messages" things on people's userpages that lead people to other stuff? I can't deal with them, they gotz to go. Much like guestbooks, they started out a funny trick. Now it's become a fad. It's seriously annoying for me to see this every time I go on Tampo's userpage—wait, scratch that. It's seriously annoying for me to see this every time I go on pretty much ''everyone'''s userpage, especially because I have always enjoyed getting messages. They've gotten pretty bad, too. Like one that logs out the user who gos to it. Now that's just mean. Can we please get rid of these? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:Although I thought you had left a while ago, I concur. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:12, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, I did leave a while ago. It's just that I was reminded of this, and I realized I had one last mssion. If you want to call it a mission. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:14, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Have you asked anyone to remove them? What was the reply? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I have asked no one. I thought it would be better to address this matter here. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::''Hello?'' Does anybody even emotely care about this issue? Kinda getting annoying...— {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::I think I inadvertently started this talk; I mentioned in passing on Main Page talk that's annoying to have to update my message prank on Wikipedia every time they change the real one (it used to be like here, then "diff", then "changes", then "last changes"). Then another user commented that the message pranks themselves are annoying, then Seriously agreed and started a topic about that. I have one here too (it goes to Special:Mytalk), but I couldn't be less attached to it. (If they're banned, Yeltensic the Guestbook Vandal won't become Granola the You Have New Messages Prank Box Vandal.) {{User:Granola/sig}} 00:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

:Personally, I don't really mind. I don't see the harm in having one on your userpage. What's the big deal? Why don't you just ignore them and wait until you're out of the User: namespace? If you can't deal with them and they annoy you this much, then you can always just stop looking at userpages. If you don't like them, don't click them. (And, if you don't mind me asking, Seriously, why does it bother you this much if you're not even going to be here to see them?){{User:FireBird/sig}} 01:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::This issue is not even close to a problem. Of the approximately 45 user pages/user talk pages/user subpages that use the "usermessage" class, only '''4 people''' are using them in a way that directly imitates the new messages message ([[User:Granola|Granola]], [[User:Not a Robot!|Not a Robot!]], [[User:Tampo|Tampo]] (6 times), and [[User:Whatever your user name is there|Whatever your user name is there]]). If it really bugs you, why don't you ask them directly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Fine. Whatever. {leaves in a huff}

Nah, I'm just kidding. I thought they were annoying, and I could safely say that many other users thought so too. I guess not. I also saw several similarities to the guestbook decision. Most of the arguments there were that people just never really liked them. I thought maybe, that could happen here too. Once again, I guess not. Whatever, see yous guys later. Way later. I'm happy I got one more debate to happen before I leave. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:36, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

:The biggest problem with the Guestbooks was that it was clogging up Recent Changes. The new messages links don't really do that. I personally think they're unoriginal and somewhat stupid, especially since for a while nearly everybody had them, but gradually that fad's been passing, and as Dot com mentioned, most of them now use the span, but don't directly copy the wording to fool you. It's more of a personal userpage choice then a problem that adversely affects the wiki as a whole. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:14, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

::Thanks, Dot com, for calling that to my attention...little did I know that, all along, my prank was incorrect. <strike>I wonder if I did the same thing on Wikipedia...?</strike> {{User:Granola/sig}} 03:56, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::To back you up, Seriously... I hate 'em too. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
::::I should clarify. They annoy me. But I do have that choice of not visiting those user pages. Fool me once and all. I suppose it's an avoidable nuisance and therefore not really any sort of crisis. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:08, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::You guys are [[HRFWiki:Glossary#Y|way behind]] the [[HRFWiki:New_Message_Craze|times]]. It was massively bad back then, but it cooled down. Like all fads, it'll go away by itself. Just let the person who has it on their userpage have some fun. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 09:23, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Mine is actually independent of the craze; I just have one here because I already had one on Wikipedia (where it isn't a big fad). {{User:Granola/sig}} 17:13, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I care. I used to use dial-up, and it took SO much time. And this is fast dial up we're takin' about. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:38, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::::Actually, you know what? If we're shortening sigs for our dial-up users, why not get rid of something making them take up ''more'' time? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:47, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::I don't see how this fake message will really make dial-up-ers pages load drastically slower... - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::::::::::Then use dial-up. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:35, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::What? The time it would take a page to load with or without a "new message" indicator it virtually identical. It's just text, and not even much of that. Also, we didn't shorten sigs for dial-up users; we shortened them because they were getting out of hand. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::::::::But, if you're new to a wiki, and fall for that, that's a VERY long time. I had it happen all the time when I was new, and am now lucky to have a fast connection. But, trust me, I spent too much time on that. That time could have been converted to productive editing. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:53, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::::Well, like I mentioned above, there's only a handful of people doing it, and only one who does it on pretty much every page in his user space. If you want, you could speak to them directly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Suggestions for sysops ==

We're going to try out a new courtesy policy among sysops. You've probably noticed that double blocking is common now in part due to the recent promotions. (The reason we want to avoid these is because they look a bit unprofessional when different admins block for different durations for the same user, and it can cause degree of unintentional usurping of other sysops' decisions.) While it sometimes cannot be avoided, double blocking can be lessened if we follow this new "policy": The sysop who gets the first revert on a vandal becomes the ''commanding officer'' or ''case worker'', and gets rights to the block at his or her discretion. This will prevent multiple blocks of varying durations on the same user, and will give the case worker the freedom to use diplomacy (that is, talk pages) to get the offender to stand down. Use your best judgment if it appears that the commanding sysop is no longer online — either Missing In Action or if the vandalism is separated by more than fifteen minutes' time. If a non-sysop gets the reverts and you don't know if other sysops are keeping an eye on the vandalism, keep aware of your surroundings, slow down a bit, and be sure you search the block log ''immediately before blocking'' (using the auto-link on the block page) to be sure someone already hasn't done the deed. Though usually, the vandal need not be blocked at all unless it is especially bad (spamming or otherwise) or ongoing/persistant. It won't do any lasting harm if we slow down a little bit and keep our heads cool... the worst that could happen is a few more bad edits slipping in before the block.

Also, '''when reverting good-faith edits, please try to avoid using the rollback button.''' Give your best effort to provide a reason for the revert (all users should do this as much as possible). In the best-case scenario, the rollback button should be used for vandalism only.

—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:47, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

:I'm highly in favor of both points. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:51, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:If I can remember to actually do them. ;) I've kinda fallen into the habit of the rollback button, so I might have a harder time with that one. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:25, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
::Not a sysop, but when looking at Recent Changes it's HUGE help to me to know why an edit was reverted. I welcome this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:27, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, that is a good idea. Wikipedia should have a blocking policy like that. {{User:Granola/sig}} 04:30, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

:I'm all for it. Especially the rollback one. I used it only once, and I hope it will stay that way. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:00, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I made a change to the software that drastically affects the first paragraph (thus I have grayed it for now). '''It is now impossible to double-block.''' Several of you already encountered this earlier when we had a WoW-style attack. The software seems to be functioning as I intended. It seems to me, therefore, that we shouldn't hesitate to block during a big attack, as only the first sysop will be successful. In less severe cases (where the threat is not immediate), seeing whether another sysop has been dealing with the vandal (perhaps trying a diplomacic approach) is a good idea. '''In short:''' Feel free to block as quickly as the immediate situation warrants, but if the vandalism is not ''in progress'', take the time to investigate the relevant links, just as if the vandal had been listed on the old WikiTroll. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:54, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:I have another suggestion: I think we should '''not use "unwelcome" as the reason for deleting talk pages.''' I understand that these vandals are in fact not welcome (and that what we're deleting is probably just a welcome message), but I think it looks bad to see in the recent changes. I suggest: "vandal talk page" or something similar. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:54, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

:OK. No more "unwelcome". Sounds wise to me. And thanks for fixing the software to prevent double blocks; that should be very helpful. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:58, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, it was a pretty nice thing to avoid during the quick attack. We had enough problems with double page-moving. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:01, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Double page moving? I don't remember any of that! I mean, I never deleted Has Matt?'s page! Umm, uhh, ''{beats a hasty exit}''. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|NOT Heimi]] 20:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Heh, yeah that was me that came up with "Unwelcome". I thought it was a good play on words, they are unwelcome, thus they are un-welcome'd. But I see the logic. ''"Vandal talk page"'' is better, thanks. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:25, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Just bumping this item into more recent history. I for one really appreciate knowing why my edit needed reversion, and I know the newest users do as well. If sysops rollback edits made in good faith, the new user won't know why the reversion was done, and might very well find it an offensive response. I'm trying to always provide a summary explaining the revert, so maybe next time I (or you) won't have to revert him again for the same thing. Also, I'd propose that if anyone sees a new user making the same editing mistake often, someone should politely and gently "school" them on their Talk page. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:Although the rollback button is always readily available and easy to use, I for some reason still prever the good ol' go-to-last-good-version-edit-write-rv-and-reason-in-the-summary-and-save type of reverting. I think I used it here only three or four times (for trolls and one accidentally). {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:35, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I was just coming here to bring up the exact thing as your second point, BZJ, but I guess you already have that taken care of. I with it agree totally. {{User:Ed smildE/signature}}

== Automatically block ON WHEELS!! ==

I am attempting to create a template that will automatically block any user with the phrase "on wheels" (not case sensitive) in the username. This could potentially save us tons of time on blocking. I need a little help, considering I have never created a template or a bot before. {{User:Lopp3/sig}} 21:48, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
:I appreciate your enthusiasm and willingness to help, but that wouldn't really solve the problem. If we did that, the vandals would just use "on wheelz" or "()|\| \/\/|-|33|_5" or something. Oh well. Keep on tranglin'! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:52, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
::Another issue would be that there might be a legitimate user who would choose to be Pancakes On Wheels or something, and they'd be blocked. They might find that unwelcoming, which runs counter to our goal here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:57, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Actually looking at the code, it doesn't look like it'll autonmatically block anyone at all. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 21:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I know that; but for now I have a template, a category, and a note on the [[Help:Vandalism]] page, so that new users will know what to look for in terms of vandalism. {{User:Lopp3/sig}} 22:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

:We have the [[Template:delete|delete]] template for troll pages. Example: <nowiki>{{</nowiki>delete|Troll user page}}. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:03, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
::This is just my opinion, but I don't think new users should be too worried about helping to revert vandalism and report people for blocking. I'd personally prefer the new users to use their initial involvement to get to know the wiki, the sysops, how we do things, what's appropriate and not, etc., and in the process they'll figure all that out along the way. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:06, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Not necessarily NEW users, just users who aren't as familiar with WoW style vandalism. I joined the RC patrol just after I signed up, and I recently began reverting, just a few weeks after sign up. I wasn't familiar with WoW style until last night. {{User:Lopp3/sig}} 22:10, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Yes, but, no one needs to know vandalizers styles, just that it's vandalism. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

We don't need a bot to add a template to tell us that a user needs to be blocked. We've had a discussion beforehand about if we even need a bot to block possible sockpuppets directly, but we came up with a resounding "no" for many of the same reasons: It's easy to avoid being autoblocked; our recent changes do not pass by so quickly that we miss new registered accounts, we have enough admins watching for WoWs nearly round-the-clock, and we hardly spend any time reverting or blocking so it wouldn't save us much time at all. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:21, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Why not make it use "NSMC" insted of "ON WEELS!"? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 23:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

== Visit hrwiki.org ==

Uh... what happened to our logo? Instead of the usual Homestar logo, all I see is a white box that reads "Visit hrwiki.org"... but... I already am... --{{User:Jay/sig}}
: And, might I add, it's extremely unsettling. It just, y'know, feels wrong to have that big mostly-blank space up there. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:09, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

::Should be fixed now with a hard refresh. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::: And, wouldja look at that, it is. Cool. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

== Mister Pellican **** ==

FYI: [[Wikipedia:WP:MPS]]. Another infamous Wikipedia vandal has found his way here. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:03, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
:It's probably just a copycat; this guy has been operating here as WoW for a long time now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
::I wasn't doubting that they were the same guy, I just wanted to make sure we all knew what we ''may'' be in for. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:27, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Welcome Messages ==

Seeing how welcoming new users is carried out these days, I would like to propose hardcoding an automatic welcome message for when users first create accounts. Some might argue that an automatic welcome would be a tiny bit impersonal, but most of these welcomes nowadays are. No matter which way you look at it, we are as close to an automatic welcome now as you can get without it being hard-coded into the system. Unless you're personally helping a new member with a problem or something, It's just as impersonal as an automated message. Automating the messages would barely change anything, and eliminate any bizzare or unorthodox welcomes. We could still welcome new users with help if they need anything, but an automated message would convey the basic links found within most user welcomes. If this is decided to be changed, we would do so after the upgrade to MediaWiki version 1.6. Any opinions, for or against? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:58, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:Your statement implies a problem with "how welcoming new users is carried out these days" - and I don't think I understand where that problem lies. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
::I didn't mean to imply there was much of a problem. What I meant was "seeing how welcoming new users is as good as automated these days" why not make it official? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, as you stated, the personal touch would be lost. There's something to be said about a user taking the time to visit your page and personally welcome you. It implies a community which nurtures, and the new user now knows at least one other user on the wiki. I'd be reluctant to support automating that unless there remains a role for individual users to fill in spreading the wiki love. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:32, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Where's the personal touch in going to someone's page, who you have no idea who they are, and typing {{subst:welcome}}? The welcome committee has become a well-oiled machine anyway, staring at the newusers log and welcoming new users as soon as they're created... an automatic system would be no different. All we'd lose is the varied and occasionally confusing individual welcome templates, which in my mind wouldn't be a bad thing. My thought is either go back to only welcoming after the newbie has made their first edit (so you have some basis for making the welcome more personal... commenting on anything the newbie seems to be having problems with) or just go automated 'cause it basically is anyways. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:41, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::There also seems to be some sort of "contest" to see who can welcome the largest number of new users, which makes it even less personal. And causes most in the committee to make extra edits to their user pages/subpages in order to keep track. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:44, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::I don't think automating is a good idea. It is true that the welcoming method used now has, unfortunately, become somewhat impersonal. Still, I think it's much better than the ''completely'' impersonal way of automation. To me, this seems like the wrong way to go about fixing a problem. What really needs to happen, IMO, is that people need to agree to stop having races to get the most welcomes. I frankly would like to see all the counting how many you've welcomed stop and for people to welcome in order to help people, rather than to boost their welcome count. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:50, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::While I see your point, Thunderbird, I agree with Qermaq's "if it ain't broke don't fix it" logic. (Now if we were having a problem with zany or unwelcoming welcomes it would be another matter.) Personally, if there's a problem with it, it's that I suspect the near-instantaneous time leads many users to believe it ''is'' automated. I know that was my first thought when I saw my message from Rogue Leader—"Oh, how nice; some guy named Rogue Leader wrote up this form letter and it appears automatically when I create an account." But once I realized a real person had left it, it was more meaningful. And personally, I find the nonstandardization charming. It's dot com's got his well-organized one; I've got my wordy one; Leporello's got [[User:LePorello/welcome|his funny one]]; Dacheatbot's got his [[User:Dacheatbot/welcome|artsy one]]. The less it looks like a template and the more it shows a user's individual creative touch, the clearer it is to the recipient that there's a real person behind it. (But function should come before fancy!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::I agree with Heimi - what needs to be squelched is the "three-edit welcome" - the welcome post, the addition of the name to a list, and the upping of a number of people welcomed. It's as if there's some glory in having welcomed so many people. There could be an argument for restricting such "welcomed" lists on the basis of eliminating unnecessary items in Recent Changes.... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:57, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Responding to edits that were made after I started the above: Yes, the "welcome count" race ''does'' bug me. It makes it seem like the newbie is there to serve their welcome rather than the other way 'round. Before making some kind of official rule about it, though, I'd be in favor of trying to talk one-on-one with the people who do it. Also, in reply to phlip: "the varied"—IMO, good—"and often confusing"—I(Iwouldhopeeverybody's)O bad. Like I just said, the primary goals should be that it includes the most helpful links, and displays them in a way that's easily and intuitively assimilated. [[User:It%27s_dot_com/welcome|It's dot com's]] is an excellent example of how it can be personalized ''and'' super-pragmatic. Again, I'd be in favor of individual interventions with users whose templates are lacking or confusing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:04, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::The welcoming contest is getting out of hand. We even have had one user create dozens of accounts and welcome them himself—and then carry on a conversation thanking himself for the welcome. What I propose is that when you join, at the top of your talk page you see an automated hey, how are ya, here's some important links. After you've made a few edits, then someone from the committee should leave a personal message. I also think we should completely overhaul the committee. It should be restricted to people who have actually been here a while and know their way around, maybe like a minimum number of weeks and mainspace edits. And then when you welcome somebody, you put them on your watchlist and keep track of them for a while, like a mentor. I don't mean to expand the scope of this discussion, so let me just reiterate that the way we're doing it now is for all intents and purposes automated, so why not make it for real automated and elimintate some abuse in the process. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:06, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Well If had we done that when I came on I kind of would of felt like, "I've been on here for kind of a while, so It's a little late to welcome me" {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 22:30, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I think this pertains to me too, as I've been extremely competitive with users in the past with welcoming. I think that Dot com's idea is a prooty good one, as I myself would love to watch a user grow and learn more and more. (Unless it's a vandal, in which case they won't learn anything and I'll totally regret welcoming them. :P) I think there could also be a sorta "rating system"—I know this sounds extremely strange, but bear with me. Sysops (FireBird comes to mind, as he ''did'' create the welcoming committee) could permit or not permit users tro create a custom welcome, based on their interacting with other users, their attitude, and their overall knowledge of how to edit things on the wiki. Igf you passed, then you would be able to follow therough with the mentor idea, and you would check up on the user every once and a while to see how things are going. Such a warm welcome for a new user would not only help with users editing, but it would help build up one of the most important part of our wiki, friendships and interaction with other users (Abdi knows about that, he wrote an entire essay on it :P). — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:42, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
(Gah, too much indenting, starting over...) I dislike the idea of "rating" other users... it's basically just codifying favoritism, nothing more. Besides, it'll just create new avenues for competition... from "hah, I've welcomed more users than you" to "hah, the sysops like me more than you"... Trust and respect can't be quantified, and trying to do so usually just creates cliques and leaves new users in the dark... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:51, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:I suppose it does do that, but it would still help. If we've left users in the dark before (SYSOP NOMINATIONS), then I think users can be mature about it. Actually, I think that nearly everybody has a certain amount of maturity, just as they are expected to (quote from It's dot com on his talk page: "Even though actual age doesn't matter, I don't see anything wrong with expecting a certain level of maturity from our users, once they've had a chance to get the hang of things"). — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:59, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
::(responding to two posts back) LOL; thanks for the shout-out. And thanks to both you and Dacheatbot for responding so quickly to suggestions! I'm hearing a lot of ideas above that sound cool, like the mentor thing. I still want to voice an objection to having "first contact" be automated, though. The question of whether or not to automate can develop separately from some of the other ideas proposed. Personally, I still see it as important that a user's ''first impression'' come from a real person, rather than waiting until they take the next step of involvement. What if that human welcome ''decides'' whether or not they take the next step? So from my perspective, with automation being undesirable, the logic "it's already ''like'' an undesirable thing so let's go ahead and ''make'' it an undesirable thing" seems weird.
::(after one edit conflict) I agree, phlip; the idea of a ratings system made me think, "But that would be subjective, so we'd want to base it on something; maybe after a given number of appropriate welcomes—wait, then we'd have people counting their welcomes!" But nonetheless, the idea of the mentors, as a status conferred after probationary experience, isn't that different from the concept of sysop. On the other hand, it sounds like a significant duty. Maybe if it was made voluntary it would be self-moderating; if the requirements of wiki-experience and significant commitment to a given newbie were made clear, there wouldn't be as much of a rush to join! (And if ill-equipped users tried to, they could be firmly discouraged.) But seriously, if this conversation goes much farther we should maybe split it into one discussion of stopping current practices and another of starting new ones. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:09, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, I think you partially misunderstood what I meant (or maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you're saying). Someone would not be allowed to welcome another user unless they met certain requirements. Thus, the sysops would not rate you with your number of welcomes as a factor. But I definitely agree with you on the idea of waiting until a user makes an edit to welcome them. That shows a bit more acknowldegment of the user. Example of a good welcome"

"Hey, So-and-so! I've seen you making a lot of great edits lately".

This was it seems a lot less automated, and shows that the welcomer is thinking about the new user as more than just a new user, but ''an individual user with their own personality". — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:17, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, forget the whole mentor and user-rating thing for now. That's not what this thread is about, and I'm sorry for veering us off course. Here's the thing: the only way to avoid the appearance of an automated welcome is ''not'' to welcome people right away. But if we do that, they miss out on some very important links. It is for this reason alone that I do not object to the instantaneous welcomes that we currently practice. I think an automated list of links, not an actual welcome per se, and then ''later'' a personal welcome down the line (after some actual editing has taken place) is the way to go. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:14, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
::::While I see what you're saying, how might we exactly go along with the linking? Would we just put a notice at the beginning of the user's talk page, saying "Links:" and then a list of links? I think that wouldn't work so well. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, that's pretty close to what's going on now, save for a signature at the end. And I reiterate my agreement with Dot com, per the comments made by myself at the outset of this verbal journey. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:22, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Heh, verbal journey. Sounds like gerbil journey. Heh. (I don't know why I'm acting so stupid). Well, there is often more than a collection of links. There's also a formal welcome to the wiki, a little info about the wiki itself, and some other stuff. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:25, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I'm not suggesting we do away with formal welcomes. I'm saying that we should separate the list of impersonal but necessary links from the rest of the welcome, which can be handled by an actual user at a later time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:28, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::(inserted in chronology ''after'' Seriously's reply) Actually, I'd kind of prefer the opposite if anything! (For reasons below.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:46, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::So you're saying that the links would come by another user that's not the welcomer whn the user appears to be having trouble through edits? If so, that would go hand in hand with the mentor idea (which, as you said, is completely off-topic). — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:31, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::No, that's not what I said at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:::And I guess I can just reiterate my exception (though I promise this'll be the last time!). See, I think the value of the "welcome" as such—as a welcome—is possibly greater than the value of the links. Don't get me wrong, the links are a treasure trove, but the users who need them most tend to be the most likely to delete them without following them. I mean, I remember what I thought: "Bla bla, link to the help section; sure. I don't have time for that right now, and everybody knows you only go to "help" when you have a problem." But like I said earlier, there's something important about the ''welcome'' aspect of the welcome. And something important about it being the first thing a newcomer encounters. Let's face it; most of us either sought this place out, wound up hooked, or continue to stick around out of social reasons. Perhaps a few sit down and say, "I think I'll find a knowledge base where I can contribute to factual information!", but I'd venture a guess they tend to be computer programmers. For me, the thing that really drew me in was the fact that I was flattered by the affirmation people left on my talk page at first, and on some unpleasant level of the Id I continue to be involved because it allows me to grab at least some of the spotlight some of the time. I'd say for many users the strongest lure of the wiki is the knowledge that when they talk here, real people will hear them. And a surprising number will often care!
:::Bottom line: sure, leave more personal messages as users contribute more, and let's deal with three-edit welcomes and templates that need work. But I feel strongly that as long as initial contact can be human, and can be ''perceptibly'' human, that's preferable. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:46, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
::::There is but one problem I have with Dot Com's idea: There will be mass confusion of when to or to not welcome someone{{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 01:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Mass confusion? No. Slight confusion that accompanies any new thing? Perhaps. But also like any new thing, it would just take some getting used to. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::IMO The Mentoring Idea sound good on paper (digital paper in this case) but with more and more users popping up it would be a lot to keep track of.{{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 22:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Now that we're in 1.6, we may as well start this conversation up again and make a decision. I am still highly in favor of automating a basic welcome message if feasable. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:After reading this entire thread again, I'm not sure what to do. At first, I was all for automated welcomes, due to the questionable taste of a few of the personalized templates and aforementioned three-edit-welcomes. The idea of a standardized message that gets out just as quickly with less hassle was appealing, and the idea of rehashing the welcoming committee into a mentor committee sounded promising as well. But Abdi's arguments are compelling. A personalized instant welcome ''does'' give a slightly warmer feel than a programmed one, but then it leads to problems with nobody following up on all of the new users. I think even with no change we should consider the mentoring program, but that leads to more problems with making sure the welcomers follow through and know enough about the way things work around here. In the end, I'm still undecided on what do do here, but I am interested to hear some fresh input along with Thunderbird. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 01:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

::If we are to make the Welcoming Committee into a mentoring program, which I am all for, I believe we should start a basic screening process and make sure joining users know and fully intend to carry out the responsibilities associated with being such a mentor. And by "screening process" I mean almost anything... only regular users, only users with ''x'' edits, only users who can demonstrate themselves, etc. In any case, we need more opinions to come to a consensus. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

== Scholars ==

I am a professor and I am looking for anyone interested in writing an essay on homestarrunner, topic of your chosing to be compilied later.

:Why would a professor be looking for someone to write them an essay? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:41, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

::I might be interested in writing an essay at some point for a professor, provided 1) you explain how a professor interested in the topic neglects to capitalize a proper noun, 2) you explain how a professor requesting scholarly works allows "chosing" and "compilied" to be present in the request, and 3) you indicate (via private mail, via my Talk page, if desired) your name, position and school, and ideally a link to your biography, with emphasis on your relevant expertise and how it relates to this internet entertainment site. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:::In other words, we're skeptical. why don't you go boast your "expertise" somewhere else? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
::::Timestamps. Read 'em. Seriously. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:55, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
::::In other words: Duh!! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::Dot com: Seriously, man. I mean Seriously. What's up with Seriously not leaving timestamps? I mean Seriously! ;) — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 13:26, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

==Protecting Main Page Images==

This question has been [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 4#Protecting Main Page Images|discussed before]], with the general feeling being that it really doesn't serve much of a purpose as long as [[Template:whatsnew|the main page template]] is unprotected. Therefore I move that we do away with protecting main page images, since not only is it a hassle to keep up, but it really is quite redundant, as any vandal could just replace the image with anything else on the unprotected template anyways, which has rarely (if ever) happened. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:14, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

:The learning curve for editing (and even finding) [[Template:whatsnew]] is much steeper than the ease of clicking on the image, which brings one to the image description page where the "Upload a new version of this file" link is present. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:07, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

== A note of thanks ==

''See [[User talk:It's dot com#For you and all the others...|For you and all the others...]]''

== 1.6 ==

What's the word on the upgrade? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 05:19, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
:Not long, looks like less than a week. All key systems installed (including captcha, which we installed this afternoon). We just have a couple of bugs to work out before we go live. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:32, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
::This is gonna be awesome. I'll be here for an upgrade! I'll watch a probably-not-that-improtant-piece of history! So what exactly will be different, and why is it important for us to upgrade? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:45, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
:::I'll reply to the part of your query "...what exactly will be [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.6#What.27s_new_in_1.6 different]...". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:35, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

:::::As to the importance, it really boils down to the fact that once a new version is released, it usually isn't long before security fixes stop coming for the old one. So the only way to get them is to upgrade. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 16:12, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

::::::MediaWiki still releases security updates for the legacy versions 1.4 and 1.5. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:25, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Featured mark? ==

Shouldn't we have something on a page that tells you it is/was a featured article (like the star on [[Wikipedia:Main Page|Wikipedia]], or the alternate "Featured" logo on [http://www.uncyclopedia.org Uncyclopedia])? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 17:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

:On the talk page of every featured article there is the {{tl|featuredarticle}} template. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

::Oh, because I didn't see one on [[Strong Mad]]. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 19:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

:::It's on [[Talk:Strong Mad]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

::::I think that The Mu's idea is good. It would give a quick indication of a featured article. I think something like Wikipedia's bronze star (see [[Wikipedia:Automatic number plate recognition]] for an example) would be good. It's non-instrusive and informative. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 10:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::Take a look at {{tl|featuredicon}}... the results of me experimenting with the Wikipedia template... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:22, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I disagree with marking our articles as featured, especially in the main namespace, not because the star isn't clever—it's plenty clever—but because we are so cavalier about which articles we choose. I am not saying that we should choose articles differently. We have a style of choosing that works for us. What I ''am'' saying is that it doesn't lend itself to permanent recognition. For example, today's featured article is the [[TV Time Toons Menu]], which is interesting, but hardly an example of "one of the best articles produced by the Homestar Runner community." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:13, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

:I concur. Our method of choosing articles has little to do with whether or not they're among our finest articles. Rather, we have certain sequences to follow (such as featuring all the main characters) and we like to stick in other things that are major sections of or toons on the H*R.com itself. I don't think we should use that star. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

:True... I thought the same thing when {{tl|featuredarticle}} was being put on talk pages... we're not Wikipedia, which can have a new FA every day and still only pick the cream of the crop... we're limited by the number of articles we have. Looking back, the majority of the FA's are about an interesting aspect of H*R, rather than a necessarily good page on HRWiki (though the former can help with the latter, if only because it directs more eyes to the page). This is kinda why I didn't start putting {{tl|featuredicon}} on pages... {{User:Phlip/sig}}

::I have the same problem with {{tl|featuredarticle}} on talk pages, but there's just not ever been a good time to bring it up. At the very least, that template needs to be reworded. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Agree and agree. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 14:33, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

::::The verbiage of {{tl|featuredarticle}} was mentioned during the [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/General Discussion#Featured Template]] and [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 2#Daily Features]] discussions, but never addressed. I think it could be reworded. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::And [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:featuredarticle&curid=11400&diff=346353&oldid=217646 the recent change] looks great! -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

::::::(Referring to the link Tom just posted) I changed the image and reworded the template. In both cases I tried to capture the essence of our selection process. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I also find that the new template better exemplifies our process of choosing featured articles. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 17:51, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

::::::::When I first made it, I just copied from Wikipedia. But now it realy have that HRWiki feel to it. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::I still like the star better. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

==IRC scheduled chats==

I propose that we put the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice&oldid=179699 scheduled chat notice] back in the sitenotice, as it was up until November, at which point it was apparently taken down due to spamming issues. However, with very few outright spamming attacks, the most recent being of a recently blocked user, who was subsequently banned without issue, the channel has no reason not to be advertised. In fact, it has reason for ''to'' be advertised, what with the unsatisfyingly low average user count. I'm sure I'm not the only one who gets nostalgic about those friendly Mondays and Fridays. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:07, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

:I'm up for putting the notice up every now and then. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== Sysop Nominations ==

Is there an open sysop nomination page? Just wondering. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:22, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
:Nope, we only add sysops when we think that we need them. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 04:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::Also see [[HRWiki:FAQ#How do I become an admin or sysop?|here]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:09, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Question From a Sysop Wannabe ==

:Dear Sysops,
::How would you get to be a sysop? I was also wondering if anyone could help me learn html (Okay, I'll learn HTML on my own....). Any help?? Please??

::::Sysop Wannabe,
:::{{User: Unme93/sig}}
::[[HRWiki:FAQ#How do I become an admin or sysop?|Read this.]] --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== Audio Articles ==
While reading [[Swears]] out loud with a very bad English accent for my own weird amusment, I had an idea: How about we have audio versions (.ogg) of featured articles? Wikipedia have those and I think we should also. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

:Although this would certainly be entertaining, I question the practicality of having audio versions of our articles. What is Wikipedia's reason for having them? Accessibility? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:35, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

::Not really accessibility, but that's still a minor reason. See [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia#Benefits]] for the full list. I don't think it would work too well for us though, as we have significantly less content that it could be done with and those articles change quite a bit. But hey, if you want to record it for kicks and see how many laughs you get, it might be funny. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:29, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

:::You know what? I'll do it. I'll read [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)]] and upload the ogg to the wiki, use it, delete it, it's up to you. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

::::Well, crap. The microphone part of my audio card is busted, so I can't record anything for a while. Anyone else wants to do it? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Eh, I'll do it. A bonus for those who don't join our [[Wikipedia:Skype|Skype]] calls. I'm afraid I don't have the means to convert it to vorbis, though. Perhaps someone can change it later. I'll start tomorrow. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

::::::If you want, you can send me the file in any format you'd like and I'll turn it to .ogg {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:53, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Try [http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ Audacity]. It's free and has the capability to export as Ogg Vorbis. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 20:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

::::::::That's what I was going to use. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:42, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::Oop. I was talking to Lapper. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 20:44, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

:I vote [[User:Rogue Leader|Rogue Leader]] to do the talking. :) (Seriously, if you haven't heard his voice, make it your goal to do so. It's awesome.) {{User:FireBird/sig}} 03:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
::I completely and utterly agree! Someone who is not a ruler of a variation of thieves
:::Why, thank you kind annony who is in no way not me or my computer obsessed sister. I wouldn't mind doing it. My voice does kick butt! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 06:11, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== Don't get us mixed up ==

Just so no one gets confused, I thought I'd explicitly mention that I'm setting up an account for my wife, Janene. She has volunteered to help handle some of the proprietor responsibilities around here like updating the ledger and activating forum accounts when we receive COPPA forms. I don't anticipate her doing much more than that, but in order for her to do these things I have granted her the sysop and proprietor roles here on the wiki and will grant her administrative privileges on the forum when I set her up over there. Her username is [[User:JaneneDay|JaneneDay]], and I'm sure she would appreciate a warm welcome, which I have no doubt will happen mere seconds after I post this. In fact, someone may notice her new account and welcome her ''before'' I've even posted this. You guys are always on the ball. Oh, and sorry I haven't been around much. I have more time on my hands now and would like to get more involved again, but I'd also like to get the Homestar Runner Network off the ground, so I may end up using my time over there. At any rate, I'm starting to miss all you crazy people. Cheers! — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 01:34, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

:It'll be great to have such a well-known new user on HRWiki, and I'm proud to have made such a welcome. I'm sure Janene (or JaneneDay) will be warmly regarded. We miss you, too, Joey. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

::Now we can truly say that the HRWiki is a family-run business. :-D ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:44, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

:::Hi Joey. Hi Janene. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:47, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

:I've now removed Janene from the sysop group. The permissions for the proprietor role have been modified so that she has exactly the access she needs to do the paperwork she'll be doing without any additional privileges she doesn't need. You should still welcome her, though, of course. ;) — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:37, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

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Homestar gets hold of a banana, The Cheat and The King of Town cut their own demos, we hear two blasts from the past, and Marzipan's magazine subscription is about to erupt.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Old-Timey Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|The Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]]

'''Date:''' February 27, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 4:24

'''Page Title:''' Marzipan's Answering Machine

==Transcript==
=== Marzipan's Greeting ===
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{sounding more depressed than usual}'' Hi, this is Marzipan. I'm probably outside eating some dirt or something. So just leave me a message.

=== Message 6 ===

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh hey Marzipan, it's Homestar. Check it out, I'm on Pom Pom's cell phone, I'm gonna send you a text message. Are you ready? Here goes... P... L... Z... Spacebar... G... E... T... Spacebar... ''{Homestar is seen walking by, holding a banana up to his ear as a telephone}'' E... G... G... S... Spacebar, oh! Backspacebar, comma, M... I... L... K... Question mark? Okay, now I have to send it. Boo boo doot! This is great, now we don't have to talk anymore! Bye!

=== Message 5 ===

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' It's my new jam! ''{guitar starts in the background}''
 I'm not talking about butter,
 Or how nobody likes me!
 It's the new KOT!
 In the Two Thousand and Three plus Three!
 I play guitar, apparently!
 ''{guitar stops}'' Okay Marzipan, this was the only way I knew of to cut my demo. So I'll need to come over there soon and unreasonably search and seize this tape from you. See ya in a bit!

=== Message 4 ===

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Yes yes, what what? Testing testing, two and three! I've got a hankerin' for a prankerin'! This telegrammaphone recording will be launched forthwith into the stratosphere, in the hopes that one day, many decades ''{the last syllable isn't stressed, as deh-kids}'' from now, some buck-toothèd fool will receive it, and be thoroughly bamboozled! Yes! Now, on with the prank! What's the difference between William Henry Harrison and James Garfield? Answer: Nothing! They both enjoy lasagna! Stop!

=== Message 3 ===

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{A remix of The King of Town's jam plays.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' 
I-i-i-i-it's my it's my new jam! 
New jam! N-n-n-n-n-n-new jam! 
Not talkin' 'bout''{KOT!}'' 
Not talkin' 'bout 
Not talkin' 'bout three plus three! 
Not talkin' 'bout 
Not talkin' 'bout 
Not talkin' 'bout KOT! 
Not talkin' 'bout 
Not talkin' 'bout 
Not talkin' 'bout three plus three! 
Not talkin' 'bout 
Not talkin' 'bout 
Not talkin' 'bout butter! 
Not talkin' 'bout 
Not talkin' 'bout 
Not talkin' 'bout three plus three!

=== Message 2 ===

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hi-low, can anybody hear me? Give me the hiiiigh sign. It's The Homestar Runner, speaking into an empty soup can, with a length of twine coming from the 'neath. Hello, empty soup can. Hello, length of twine. You seem like mighty fine fellers. Why, I ought to fill you up with catgut and call you lunch. See you around, Brown!

=== Message 1 ===

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hello Marzipan, this is Lorenz... Magazine... Man, calling to tell you that your subscription to Soy... Bread... Tofu... Hybrid... Cars... Magazine, is about to erupt! You need to evacuate! It's gonna blow sky high! Get out while you can! So what you gotta do is — and believe me, I'm Lorenz Magazine Man who are— who you're gonna trust — is bake all your money into a no-bake apple pie, and set it cooling on your windowsill. So that way, once the eruption is great, you can come home and eat pie and money! Because it's still going to be there, on your windowsill! Am I wr— am I wrong? Somebody, am I wrong? Everybody in here at the office with their headsets on said "you're not wrong". So this is Lorenz Magazine Man saying... the magma is seeping under the door.

== Easter Eggs==
[[Image:NotTalkinBoutButter.png|thumb|"Not Talkin' 'Bout Butter"]]
*Click the tape holder after the last message to see a scene between the King of Town and The Cheat.
:''{Cut to a more distant view of Marzipan's answering machine. Enter The Cheat from the left.}''
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises in a singsong voice}''
:''{Enter the King of Town from the right}''
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{to the same tune}'' Doo doo doo doo doo!
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{loud, surprised The Cheat noise}''
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Oh! ''{alone}'' The Cheat! What are you doing here?
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, in a simliar structure to what The King of Town said}''
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' A ''remix''? But I gotta cut my demo! My new album needs to drop!
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Oooh! A split seven-inch, eh?
:''{A record for "Not Talkin' 'bout Butter" in a jacket designed like a playing card with The Cheat in the upper half and the King of Town in the lower half appears at the front of the screen. In between The Cheat and The King of Town there are the words, "DJ Teh Cheat b/w The New Kot".}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===

*A high sign is "a gesture used as a signal (as of approval or warning) -- usually used in the phrase ''give the high sign''." [http://www.webster.com/dictionary/high%20sign (Webster)]
*A 7 inch is a [[Wikipedia:Gramophone_record|vinyl record]], commonly referred to as a 45 because it is spun at 45 r.p.m. on a turntable. It is the format used for singles and each side normally holds one song. A split 7 inch would have two songs from two different artists, one on either side.
*[[Wikipedia:Catgut|Catgut]] is a tough cord made from sheep or goat (not cat) intestines. It is commonly used for violin strings, and for stitching up wounds.

===Trivia===

*When this cartoon was released, the link from the [[TV Time Toons Menu|TV Times toons menu]] was directed to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]]. The link was fixed the same day.
*This is the first Answering Machine in which The Cheat, The Homestar Runner and Old Timey Strong Bad leave messages.
*This is the first time the King of Town has identified The Cheat by name. In [[Where's The Cheat?]], he simply referred to The Cheat as "that little yellow thing".

===Remarks===
*[[Wikipedia:Geophagy|Eating dirt]], also known as geophagy, is a practice most often seen in rural or preindustrial societies among pregnant women. The day after this toon was released, [[The Brothers Chaps]] announced at [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006#Who does all the voices?|Flashforward 2006]] that [[Missy Palmer]] (the voice of Marzipan) was pregnant.
*The Homestar Runner and Old-Timey Strong Bad's voices are significantly higher than in their previous appearances.
*Two wires (presumably the power and the telephone line) are seen plugged into the back of the answering machine, but only the power cord is seen plugged in. This could be explained by the telephone jack being above the outlet, and obscured by the table.
*Once you get to message 5, you can't go back to message 6 using the back button on the answering machine.

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad incorrectly says that "the magma is seeping under the door." [[Wikipedia:Magma|Magma]] is molten rock located beneath the surface of the Earth. Once it reaches the surface (such as in a volcanic eruption), it is called [[Wikipedia:Lava|lava]].

===Inside References===

*"DJ Teh Cheat" is a reference to [[geddup noise]].
*The Cheat's remix of the King of Town's new jam ends in the same way as [[Everybody to the Limit]].
*"From the 'neath" may be a reference to the phrase "From the 'bove", which appeared in [[Moving Very Slowly]] and later in [[That Time of Year]].
*This is another mention of [[Pom Pom]]'s [[Cell Phone]], [[Eggs|eggs]], [[Presidents]], and [[Pie|pie]].
*Using "[[b/w]]" instead of "with" is a [[Running Gags|running gag]] that started in [[Strong Sad's Lament]]. However, "b/w" is appropriate in this case, since The King Of Town mentions that it is a split seven-inch single.
*[[Cheap as Free]] makes another appearance, this time on the record jacket.
*Homestar using a banana as a phone is the second instance of Homestar Runner [[Foods used as phones|using food as a phone]]. The first was in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*This marks the second time in which Marzipan's answering machine receives a message from a different universe (in this case the [[Old-Timey]] universe). The first time was in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0]], when the machine receives a call from [[Stinkoman]], who has supposedly gotten a "wrong number", but also asks Marzipan if she is interested in a challenge.
*Strong Bad's prank call makes a reference to [[Hybrid Cars|hybrid cars]].

===Real-World References===

*The King of Town's phrasing "unreasonably search and seize" derives from the [[Wikipedia:Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourth Amendment]] to the [[Wikipedia:United States Constitution|United States Constitution]], which protects against unreasonable searches and seizures.
*[[Wikipedia:William Henry Harrison|William Henry Harrison]], the 9th [[Wikipedia:President of the United States|president of the United States]], and [[Wikipedia:James Garfield|James Garfield]], the 20th president, held the shortest terms in office at just one month and six months, respectively.
**President Garfield's enjoying lasagna is a reference to lasagna-loving [[Wikipedia:Garfield |Garfield the Cat]].
*Strong Bad saying "Am I wrong? Somebody, am I wrong?" is probably a reference to Walter Sobchak, [[Wikipedia:John Goodman|John Goodman]]'s character in [[The Big Lebowski]], who repeats the phrase constantly.
*The handclap beat at the end of The King of Town's New Jam is borrowed from [[Wikipedia:Another One Bites the Dust|Another One Bites the Dust]] by Queen.
*The lyric from the King of Town's new jam, "I'm not talkin' about..." is sung in a similar, rushed manner and could be a reference to the similar lyric "I'm thinkin' about..." from the single "My Doorbell" by [[Wikipedia:The White Stripes|The White Stripes]].


== External Links ==
*[[HR:answer13.html|watch "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2"]]
*[[HR:answer13.swf|view the Flash file for "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2"]]
*[[Forum:7215|forum thread re: "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2"]]

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Talk:Strongest Man in the World

Rogue Leader — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:12:27 GMT

Rogue Leader: Reply for Orange

== 10 years! ==

Nice toon. I added this to the filmography of mr. bland and señor's charecter pages. I'm glad they re-did the old book. and there is another thing that I saw, when señor gets crushed, it says "sbloncheked" or what ever sb's candy bar was.
[[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]] 23:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
:I really liked this toon. It really captures the series' appeal. Who's doing the transcript for this, by the way? I hope they get done soon. We should put up pictures of Senor, Mr. Bland, etc.'s new forms on their pages. And also, Senor's voice doesn't sound like Matt's; think it could've been done by someone else?-[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 00:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I'm almost certain that Mr. Bland was voiced by Mike. Anyone know for sure? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 01:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Plain ol' Matt's voice. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I added all the pictures, so that's done. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Not on main page? ==

Does anyone else not see this on the Main Pages? Should this be included as a Fun Fact of some kind?
:I see it there. Maybe clear your cache? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Introduction ==

The intro says that Homestar enters the contest yet again. This seems a little misleading, as the toon is a modernization, not a sequel, as the intro could imply.

:Looks like that's been changed {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody Loves The Homestar Runner ==

doesnt he say "Everybody loves THE me" not "loves a'me"? that would make more sense to me. --([[User:Superplough|superplough]] not logged in) [[User:132.181.7.1|132.181.7.1]] 02:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:He does say "the me." You can go ahead and change that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mega Man Introductions? ==

I think that Mr. Bland, Señor, and The Robot's introductions may be references to games from the [[Wikipedia:Mega_Man_(series)|Mega Man series]], in which the bosses are introduced with a snazzy background, a pose, and a sound effect before you begin their levels. Or, is this a more general reference? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:The opening to The New Leave it to Beaver Show introduced the cast in a similar fashion if I remember correctly. Can't find any substantiating images though. Does it have to be a reference? Maybe it's just a visually interesting way to introduce characters. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 02:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Slo-Mo Action ==

Currently, the article page says that Homestar's slo-mo kicking of The Cheat is a reference to Super Mario Strikers. I think that it's actually a reference to The Matrix.

Hmmm... I dont think its necessarily a Matrix reference...its just in slow motion. the camera doesnt rotate around Homestar like the famous "bullet time" effect usually does. To me it just looks like a bicycle kick.
- [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, you're probably right. But I don't think TBC would make a reference to Super Mario Strikers. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

TBC have mentioned in an Interview (can't remember which one) that they are fans of Nintendo games, it is possible that they would reference Super Mario Striker, In SMS if a player passes the ball to a teammate in front of the Goal and the recieving teammate holds down the shoot button, the game will go into slow motion and the reciving teammate will do one of many different styles of Kicks,The most popular one Being the exact same move that Homestar did on Teh C. Also regarding the fact that it may be actually a reference to The Matrix, I recall no such move being used in any of the Matrix movies, [[User:Dctcool|Dctcool]]

It actually reminded me most of Shaolin Soccer... but that could be because I just watched it today.
:It reminds me of a lot of martial arts movies, but not one in particular that springs to mind.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Does anyone have a video of that specific kick from Super Mario Strikers? {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 14:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

==I still alive?==
I think Senor says "I see the light!" Instead of "I still alive"! I see the light is much funnier. The Chaps would go for I See The Light!-Me
: I hear "I still alive," funny or not. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I originally thought it was "i see the light", but i think "I still alive" makes more sense with the way he waves his hand up through the grapes. And his bad grammar does fit with hes dialect. -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
: I was just about to add a discussion on this line. I hear, "I ''feel'' alive!" His accent is a little hard to decipher, so I don't see this ending well. Prepare for weeks of arguing...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::FWIW, the first time I heard it I heard "I steel alive!" and it was hilarious. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I heard "I steel alive" [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Media:Alive.ogg|The first quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "I see de light!" {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::It is clearly "I steel alive" {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
After watching it a few timew I thought that it was I see de light [[User:Smallowman|Smallowman]] 04:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I hear "I still alive!", too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"I still alive!" —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::"I still alive!" - {{User:Kookykman/sig}} 23:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== All right, you crap-for-brains ==

What is it that the Grape Fairie is saying in his first line. I can't tell what it is, but it doesn't sound anything like "stupid" to me. Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:My first guess is "sorry brains", but I'm not sure enough to change the transcript.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Perhaps "slowest brains"? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:: ive just listeend to it a bunch of times and im pretty sure its just one syllable. kinda sounds like "All right you slows brains". Im not really hearing the 2 sylables of slowest and not the "ee" sound of sorry. But yea definatly not "stupid brains" -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 03:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Media:Listenup.ogg|The second quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::sounds like: " i'm ready, so you'se brains listen up smart " possibly calling them brains in conjunction with listen up smart. {{User:Csours/sig}} 03:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Do you have headphones or speakers, Csours? I'm curious. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Ohhh yeah, "slows brains" kind of works! I was looking for something that rhymes/sounds like "stoes brains," and I think that's it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::speakers. i know headphones are better, i just havent got any yet. also i put it on loop on my sound editor and listened to it like 100 times.{{User:Csours/sig}} 14:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Unplugged? ==

The first fun fact credits the show MTV Unplugged with the creation of the term unplugged. I think (and am researching) that the term predates the show. [[User:Mila|Mila]] 03:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:"Unplugged" dates back to the beginnings of elictricity. But as a description of music played without extra amplification, MTV gets the credit. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

The unplugged fact is credited both to MTV and Eric Clapton in different sections, which is kind of contradicting itself. One or the other should be taken out.
===Teh Proof===
Quotes from the Oxford English dictionary:
*New York Times, 21 April 1957
*:The return of the unplugged guitar gets another boost from George Van Eps, who was supplying rhythmic chords to jazz groups long before voltage came into fashion.
*Washington Post, 26 December 1986
*:Nils Lofgren unplugged is still Nils Lofgren the musician... Lofgren will give a rare acoustic concert at the Bayou tomorrow.
*Toronto Star, 6 October 1989
*:The simple, six-string folk rhythms of several songs here..owe some of their sincere appeal to the unplugged colors of Tracy Chapman's music.
MTV Unplugged first aired on 26 November, 1989. Lexicography saves the day again! --[[User:60.228.144.21|60.228.144.21]] 08:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Nice catch... I've reworded the fact to say that MTV popularised it, but didn't coin it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Reference ==

I recently removed these RWRs from the page:

*Homestar's slow-motion move (a Pele kick) seems similar to a "Slo-mo Cross Shot" from [[Wikipedia:Super_Mario_Strikers|Super Mario Strikers]].
**It could also be a reference to the "Bullet Time" sequences in [[Wikipedia:The_Matrix|The Matrix]].
***Another possibility is they modeled it after the Sphere Shot in [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]].

This seems to me to be the very definition of TTATOT. I'd be glad to entertain discussion to help settle what Homestar's move ''actually'' refers to; however, I kind of suspect it's actually just a generic fighting move and not a reference at all. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Heh, I agree. But now that you mention the Sphere Shot...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 04:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I propose that it is a reference to Shaolin Soccer. Though, actually, like many of the most reasonable people here, I doubt it's a direct reference to -anything-. Still, that kind of manuever is done at least once, if not a few times in Shaolin Soccer, in slo-mo and everything.

It's possible that it references all 3 franchises (except the Matrix as there is no such move in any Matrix movies)

::I don't think it references a single thing. Homestar kicks the cheat around like a soccer ball with generic moves and does an out of the ordinary extra kick in slow motion to emphasize it. It might be inspired by such things but not directly referencing Shaolin Soccer, Matrix or Super Mario Strikers. The ONLY WAY it could be a reference, directly, to any of those is if the moves Homestar is doing are pretty much exactly done like those in the particular move in the game or movie. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

==hacky sack vs footbag==

in the transcript, it says that homestar kicks the cheat around like a hacky sack. this is a brand name. footbag is the generic term.{{User:Csours/sig}} 03:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
: I never play with hackysacks or footbags, but I don't know anyone who would know what you mean if you say footbag [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I've never heard the word "footbag", either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Ditto--I've heard them called hacky sacks for 20 years (or thereabouts), but I've never heard footbags. It may be a brand name, but it's pretty much been adopted as a generic term (like with Levis or Kleenex).--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I've never heard of a footbag ''or'' a hacky sack. Does that mean I'm stupid? [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 12:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've never heard Levis used as a generic term... --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 15:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Actually, the way he kicks it also looks like the way you can bounce a ball in soccer.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Page Title ==

Is "The Homestar Runner Enters the Longest Page Title on the Website Contest!" actually the longest page title on the website? [[User:!!|!!]]

: [[User talk:William | Shall we find out?]] [[User:William|William]] 04:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I did my own search by looking up "Page title" on the wiki's search bar and looking through each selection. Turns out this toon doesn't win. See the fun facts for the true winner. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 05:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Wretched Simmons Outfit ==

Homestar's spandex workout uniform is from the Lady Fan E-mail.
:Yep, that's already mentioned there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Enough with the golbol! ==

Alright already! I see that it's captioned as GOLBOL in the Easter egg. I can accept that many, if not all, characters pronounce it "golbol". But, for the love of all that is humane, can we PLEASE use "gold bowl" or "trophy" when we are describing it? Please, oh please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Since you asked so nicely... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: Actually, in the 'toon version, it's never once referred to as a "trophy" or "gold bowl", and only once as just simply a "bowl". Why not call it "Golbol"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Because it sounds ridiculous...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::[[Suudsu]]. [[The Denzel]]. [[Lord Quackingstick]]. We don't describe these every time they appear after being named, but they have ridiculous names as well. This is a site about silly cartoon animal people. Keep your sense of humor about you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::From another edit just made on another page, I'm reminded of another such case: [[The Geddup Noise]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I wonder, though, if in the Fun Facts the word golbol would be better placed in quotes, since it's not a real word?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Jay, those are established more solidly than this. The spelling "golbol" is solely from an egg which in all likelihood is just a joke in itself on the characters' pronunciation. As Dorian put in an edit summary, it makes it look like we're a bunch of turkeys. This is a knowledge base, not a poultry farm. We should use an odd spelling when it's needed, but not when it doesn't add to meaning. Suudzu - how else would you spell it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::We had a bit of conversation over this, and it was determined that I would transcribe it as "Golbol". Sorry if there's been any confusion. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 12:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::"More solidly?" Lord Quackingstick's name is mentioned all of once. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Sure. Strong Bad unquestionably says "Quackingstick". It's a duck on a stick, the name makes perfect sense. Here, we are transcribing a word based on Homestar's and The Grape Faerie's accents, which we never do. The only supporting evidence is the egg, which could easily be itself making a joke about how those two pronounced it. I mean, concensus will win, and I can see the argument for, but I'm of the mind we ought not do this in the transcript. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Doesn't spelling it out in the Easter egg as they did carry a lot of weight, just as if Strong Bad had typed it or if it were featured as a Quote of the Week? I mean, it sure ''sounds'' like they're saying "golbol" and not "gold bowl" to me, so there's not the problem of the two not matching. Oh, to add to Jay's list of examples: "zader matermorts". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, but that's only because of the Easter egg. Do you really think you would transcribe it as "golbol" if you hadn't seen it? Also, you guys are making a big deal out of it. Just because it's listed as "GOLBOL" doesn't mean that it wouldn't be "''the'' golbol" otherwise. And just typing out "golbol" makes me queasy. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::No, if it weren't for the Easter egg, then there's no way I would transcribe it "golbol"... but there ''is'' the Easter egg. Are we just supposed to ignore it? In fact, I can't see any reason for the Easter egg's existence other than to give the correct spelling of the trophy's name. I therefore have no problem with calling it "the golbol" in the transcript, and in fact we may should call it "the Golbol" (a proper noun). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::'''EDIT CONFLICT X2 (Darn you!):''' Yeah, but would it kill you to refer to it as "the gold bowl"? Besides, I hear "gold bowl" the first time it's mentioned, but unless we want to get in [[User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings|here]], I suggest we get a clear consensus. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 23:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Strongest Man in the World Poster ==

If I am not mistaken, it features the "Big Beefy Arm" from Trogdor fame.
:I think it's just a generic beefy arm. Y'know, coz it's a strength contest and all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I agree, just a generic arm.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:: I thought it looked like the same beefy arms from [[Dragon]], too. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== LotR reference? ==

It's a stretch, but I thought I'd bring it up here. When Pom Pom has the trophy at the end, Homestar says he should give it to him for his birthday, which of course was today. This is like when Gollum's friend got the Ring and Gollum demanded it for his birthday, which was that day. Of course Homestar didn't kill Pom Pom... but could they be related? I don't feel sure enough about it to add it without some agreement [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No offense, but is there a single line in all of H*R which isn't a reference, by this standard? Anonymous has spoken. [[User:89.1.17.101|89.1.17.101]] 04:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::OK, anonymous, there's no need to be insistent. But I do think you're right that this reference is a stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:D-d-definitely, definitely a stretch [[User:Jetpac|Jetpac]] 05:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Extra Sauce? ==

I think that Homestar acutally says "Extra Sauce" instead of exercise.
:I heard Extracise
:: Me too, though I thought of it as "Extrasize". --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Correction--the first incident, it sounds like "extra size", the second it sounds like he says "pour on that extra sauce".--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I'll second that.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::sounds like extro-sauze to me, but it could easily be both. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pure Pwnage Reference ==

Okay, this is DEFINITELY a reference, stop deleting it. I will make my case clear here.

Pure Pwnage is a somewhat popular internet-show. They did an episode where the main character sat at a desk with a Compy 386 and answered emails EXACTLY like Strong Bad does. Naturally, someone pointed this out to TBC and they threw him a bone by making this reference:
When Strong Bad writes to Homestar telling him he can achieve anything and then stops and says "you're a butt", this is a reference to the episode of Pure Pwnage (which references Strong Bad Emails) where Jeremy answers emails like Strong Bad and he tells someone who professes to 'like boys more than girls' that he should stay true to who he is and then erases it and writes "u r a fag".
Clearly these are the exact same principle. Starting out telling someone that they can 'acheve anything' and 'stay true to who you are' and then saying to them "you're a butt" or "u r a fag" is a TOTAL DIRECT reference. They cant use the word "fag" on Homestar Runner, and Strong Bad wouldnt write "u r" They abbreviated the best they could.
:Except that kind of joke is as old as the hills.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Character ''x'' does something absurdly out of character, realises what s/he's doing, stops, and reverts back to in character. This isn't exactly a new formula. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, sorry, agree with the people above me. Not a reference. It's just Strong Bad signing 50 autographs in a row without looking up, then realizing he's signing one for Homestar.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Agreed. This is not worth getting on a soapbox over. It's an old joke. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Down Goes Bland ==

Someone is out to take out all of my references that are blazingly clear here, so i'm gonna write another discussion one.
"Down goes Bland" is a reference to Howard Cosell's ringside calling of the Foreman Vs Frazier fight where when George Foreman won, Howard Cosell repeatedly shouted "Down goes Frazier!"
C'mon, its a competition, one of them goes down and they yell "Down Goes <Last Name>"
What more do you want Phlip?!
:Maybe, but there are only so many ways to say that a competitor is down, after all.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Given there are over 350,000 Google results for "Down goes" and only 10,000 for "Down goes Frazier", I don't think Frazier owns this phrase. Even after allowing for the number of false positives of a shorter search string, and other refereneces to Frazier's fight, 35x the results is a lot. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::When are you going to refine a search and come up with MORE results? Your logic is perplexing to say the least. I have seen a lot more obscure things go up on this wiki. --Your Fuzzy God
::::I'm saying that if "Down goes" was actually a reference to Frazier, then a reasonable portion of the results for "Down goes" would also be results for "Down goes Frazier". As it is, less than 4% are. So "Down goes Frazier" cannot be considered the only possible source for the phrase, and once that is considered we have [[TTATOT]]. It's not a question of obscurity, it's a question of "How do we know it's this, and not something else?". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:When Homestar says "Watch your language" to Pom Pom it's a direct reference to The Lion King when Timon says that to Pumbaa!!!11111one OMG FASCISM!! ... seriously, no. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Golbol Easter Egg ==

The section about the Easter Egg says that the logo in the background of the golbol belongs to the New York Yankees.

In fact, it belongs to the New York Mets. (Mookie Wilson played for the Mets) {{unsigned|68.203.142.206|12:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)}}

:Thanks for point this out, but a hint for next time – if you see a clear mistake in the article, you don't need to tell us about it, just go in and fix it... taking it to the talk page is generally only necessary if you're not sure, or others don't agree. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

::That may all be well and good, but is it more than a coincidence that this toon came out just after the "Yankees finish historic sweep of Red Sox"? It would seem that would be rewarded with a gold bowl.

::: It is a coincidence. It's not a Yankees logo.

:::: Correct. The Mets and Yankees both have "NY" in their logos but they are arranged very distinctly. See the page backgrounds [http://www.mets.com/ here] and [http://www.yankees.com here] to compare the logos (in fact, it almost looks like the Mets logo in the Easter Egg could have been taken directly from the Mets website -- notice the angle!). But on a related note, does anyone think that it's worthy of note as trivia in the article that two days before this toon appeared on the site, Mookie Wilson (who has barely ever been in the news since the Mets won the World Series in 1986) appeared at a big ceremony at the Mets stadium with many of his '86 comrades marking the 20th anniversary of the championship and that Wilson was the one to speak on behalf of all the players present in accepting the honor? [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 23:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

::::: Here is an [http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060819&content_id=1618842&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym article] about Saturday's ceremony. Mookie Wilson is shown in the accompanying picture. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== hewwo ==

he doesn't normally mispronounce l's

==Stong Bad vs. Strond Bad==
When I looked at the autograph egg, Strong Bad's inscription is signed "Strond Ba... wait a sec" instead of "Stong" as is mentioned in the transcript. It's possible that this will change randomly, I suppose, although I checked it a couple of times (in different windows) and it remains "Strond". I hesitate to change it, though, because TBC have done random stuff before, so maybe someone else can see what they get. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 14:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Fowl/Foul Language ==
Since Pom Pom only speaks in bubbles, we can never really know what he is saying. But from the reaction of Homestar and Strong Bad, not to mention Homestar's comment of toning the language down... couldn't this be considered the first time TBC actually have one of their characters use curse words? I mean we know they were always wanting to do that one day? ;)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:[[Swears]]. Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Strong Bad

Rogue Leader — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:37:04 GMT

Rogue Leader: Reverted. Not most...

{{charnav|Strong Bad|sb|Homestar Runner|The Cheat}}
[[Image:MontageStrongBad.png|thumb|The reason you're here.]]
== Biography ==

'''Strong Bad''' is one of the most well-known characters on [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestarrunner.com]]. He started out as the villain who always tried to cheat his way to the top but was always doomed to fail before [[Homestar Runner]]; in an example of the [[Wikipedia:Fonzie syndrome|Fonzie Syndrome]], however, he's now less of a villain and more of a highly expanded form of comic relief, with his irascible sarcasm and rough voice seeming to make him ever more popular with fans of the website. He answers [[Strong Bad Email|e-mails]] with a passion, and will [[Poorly Written Emails|make fun]] of your grammar, punctuation, and spelling - he just doesn't seem to be worried about [[Strong Bad's Spelling|his own]]. He also writes, illustrates, and narrates the [[Teen Girl Squad]] comics.

He is the middle child of [[The Brothers Strong]]. His is the dominant personality and he loves to push everyone around: he's often abusing Homestar, [[Kicking The Cheat|kicking]] [[The Cheat]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine|prank-calling]] [[Marzipan]], or [[Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad|tormenting]] Strong Sad (although it's been hinted that they [[The Secrets That I Keep|got along]] when they were younger). All in all, he seems to dislike or positively loathe almost every character in the Homestar Runner Universe, with the notable exceptions of both The Cheat, his ever-diligent lackey, and [[Strong Mad]], his older brother.

He has boxing gloves for hands (which always have square window reflections on them, no matter where he is), and a [[Wikipedia:Lucha libre|lucha libre]] mask for a head (as confirmed in the [[UMFM Interview - 20 May 2003|UMFM interview]]). His mouth is rectangular, though it often becomes round when he says words with the letter "o". Most of the time, Strong Bad's mouth is in a slight frown, but there are occasions where he [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]]. The blue diamond on his face may also give him the power to mentally open [[Cold One]]s and even pop Homestar's hat off his head; however this seems to have been abandoned, as it was only demonstrated in [[super powers]]. Strong Bad may also have a Homestar-like psychokinesis as demonstrated in the Holiday special [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]. Strong Bad owns his own country, [[Strong Badia]], a barren field behind the [[Wikipedia:Dumpster|dumpsters]] that is completely devoid of any sentient life. His favorite saying is (or was for a time) "[[Crap|holy crap]]", though he hates when people use the word crap when [[Crapfully Yours|signing emails]]. He frequently mangles words, as seen in [[army]]. ("We're a one man army. Er, a three man one-y. Three-to-one-marny?") He also hates to be asked about [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|how he manages to type with boxing gloves on]]. He usually does what he does best when he gets an e-mail like that: '''[[DELETED|DELETED!!!]]'''

Strong Bad talks a big line, claiming to be a criminal mastermind, a [[Exaggerated Strong Bad|muscle man]], and totally popular with the [[Strong Bad's Ladies|ladies]], though there is little evidence of any of these claims, and no shortage of evidence that they are all untrue. Strong Bad refuses to acknowledge this however, and continues unfazed with his delusions of grandeur. He is convinced that Marzipan likes, or has a crush on, him when in fact she "[[marzipan|really doesn't like him at all]]." Due to his delusional opinions about himself, much of what Strong Bad says should be taken with a grain of salt. He seems to have a grudge against [[Birds (Teen Girl Squad)|birds]], as shown in issues of [[Teen Girl Squad]]. He also loves to listen to [[Limozeen]], [[Taranchula]], and [[Wikipedia:Peter Frampton|Peter Frampton]] (though his opinion of Frampton is somewhat mixed). His favorite show is [[Caleb Rentpayer]], or was until Homestar shot Caleb. He also enjoys doing Jumble puzzles and baking. His love for [[Strong Bad's Technology|older technology]] such as cassette tapes, command prompt computers, old video games and laserdiscs, and the titles of events such as "[[monster truck|Awexome Cross '98]]", and "[[TrogdorCon '97]]" suggest that Strong Bad is "stuck in the 90's". Despite his love of the nineties, he seems to despise and destroy anything from any previous decade, like [[Wikipedia:8-track cartridge|8-Tracks]], TVs that lost their essence in the 70s, and the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Entertainment System|Nintendo Entertainment System]].

[[Image:Baby strong bad.png|thumb|Pretending to play better video games.]]
Strong Bad has sung many hit singles, his most popular being "[[Everybody to the Limit]]". He also stars as the protagonist in the blockbuster action series "[[Dangeresque]]". He works with Homestar and The Cheat at an [[The Office|unnamed tech company]], though despite this fixed income, he seems to have financial troubles as he often attempts money making solutions of questionable legitimacy and burns his bills with his [[BMW Lighter]].

Strong Bad is somewhat prejudiced; he has been [[sb_email 22|banned from the UK]], and often [[little questions|ridicules non-English speakers]] on their e-mails. He also hates old people and children, although he claims to have children of his own, including Jeffrey Beffrey Mudgeman, at his second secret home where he goes by the name Vance Mudgeman. He doesn't appear to care much for those children either, or perhaps he does and truly believes that "you got to be firm."

*'''Domicile:''' [[House of the Brothers Strong]]
*'''Debut:''' [[Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"]]
*[[:Category:Strong Bad Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

== Character Video Transcript ==
''{'''Page Title:''' Get ready for the new!}'' ''{'''Place:''' [[Strong Badia]]}''

''{Strong Bad is seen standing next to several cardboard props, including one of Homestar Runner with a snake wrapped around his head. He is moving some of the props around.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Hold on, I'm not done with the props yet! ''{turns to camera}'' Greetings, party people in the place to be! I am called Strong Bad! Hand over all your moneys in a paper and/or plastic bag! Ladies, form a line to my left for makeouts! Dudes, form a line to my right for high fives! Like I said, I'm Strong Bad. I've been described as cool, awesome, hot, video games, the hottest, and real real hot. Me and my big brother and our The Cheat pretty much run the show around here, as well as serve as a sort of multi-purpose criminal element. Yeah, we got a lot of—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Ahe-he-hem.

'''STRONG BAD''': What are you doing here?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Well, I was gonna get a high five, but, I see that I'm already here. And with a snake on my head!

'''STRONG BAD''': Yeah, that's right. So I'm gonna have to charge you double. You know, since you're both here.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': That sounds reasonable! ''{pronounces it re-ZON-able}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Okay, I only accept gold nuggets. Or maybe Denver Nuggets. ...Whatever you got on ya. Chicken nuggets.

===Fun Facts===
*"Party peoples in the place to be!" is a reference to an [[Wikipedia:Ultramagnetic MC|Ultramagnetic MC]] song called "Ego Trippin'", during which before the song, the announcer says, "party peoples in the place to be! Just for you, it's the Ultramagnetic MCs!"
*The [http://www.nba.com/nuggets/ Denver Nuggets] are a professional [[Wikipedia:National Basketball Association|NBA]] basketball team.

== Strength ==
There is highly conflicting evidence towards Strong Bad's supposed strength. For the most part, it was continuously implied that Strong Bad is actually very weak and out of shape and that "Strong Bad" was merely his name and not an accurate description. But in the Strong Bad Emails "[[car]]", "[[old comics]]", and "[[secret identity]]", Strong Bad demonstrates the ability to punch Homestar's lights out and literally toss both him and The King of Town out of his house, thus condradicting this claim. He can also easily pick up and carry the 42-pound [[Lappy 486]] with ease. However, In the email "[[lady fan]]", the idea of Strong Bad being a weakling is supported yet again when he is unable to do a single push-up, and states that he used to be able to do four. It is possible that, like Homestar's "[[Lack of Visible Arms|arms]]", this fact may be purposely ambiguous, or that Strong Bad really is a complete weakling. He has [[Kicking The Cheat|kicked The Cheat]] quite a few times, but it is unknown exactly how much The Cheat weighs (although it would seem that he is about 18 pounds, as seen in [[Where's The Cheat?]]) or how far Strong Bad kicked him, so it is debatable whether this factors into his strength or not.

== Fun Facts ==
*Strong Bad and Strong Mad, and their original role as tag team wrestlers, came from the [[Nintendo]] video game [[Wikipedia:Tag Team Wrestling|Tag Team Wrestling]] created by Data East U.S.A. in 1986. In this game, one of the teams is called "The Strong Bads".
*Apparently, Strong Bad is able to survive, stand up, and even talk, with a hole blasted in his head, as shown in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] and the email [[lady...ing]].
*Strong Bad has never closed his eyes completely, even when he is sleeping.
*He also has never completely closed his mouth, and he apparently has a green tongue.
*Strong Bad was originally conceived as a masked wrestler because in their childhood, The Brothers Chaps viewed masked wrestlers as the embodiment of evil, making them an ideal choice for an antagonist.
*As seen by [[Lil' Strong Bad]] and in [[highschool]], his head seems to get more oval-shaped as he grows older.
*When he is sleeping, he [[Couch Mumbling|mumbles]] names of famous SNES games, such as Super Contra or Chrono Trigger.

== Also known as... ==
[[Image:puppetstrongbad.png|thumb|[[Puppet Stuff|Puppet]] Strong Bad]]
*[[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] ([[Old-Timey]])
*[[Stinkoman]] ([[20X6]])
*[[Archibald]] ([[A Decemberween Pageant]])
*[[Keyboard Strong Bad]] ([[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]])
*[[Tiny-Handed Strong Bad]]
*[[Dangeresque (character)| Dangeresque]]
*[[Lil' Strong Bad]]
*[[Strong Badman]]
*[[Atari Strong Bad]]
*[[Vector Strong Bad]]
*[[Tragic Clown Dog]]
*[[Wrestleman]]
*[[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals]]
*[[Sterrance]]
*[[Teenage Variation#Teenage Strong Bad|Teenage Strong Bad]]
*[[Crazy_Go_Nuts_University|Prinicpal]] Strong Bad
*[[The Strong Badian Administration of Some Aluminum Foil|First Lieuteneral Space Captainface]] ([[space program]])
*[[Free_Petry_Dish,_USA_Variation#Strongbadiophage|Strongbadiophage]] ([[highschool]])
*Tip Tappers, Expensive Briefcase Carrier ([[secret identity]])
*Vance Mudgeman (secret identity)
*[[Scarfgirl|Cara Carabowditbowdit]] (secret identity)
*[[Head Bad and Strong Body]] ([[disconnected]])
*[[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Leprechaun Strong Bad|Leprechaun Strong Bad]]


=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===
*[[Wikipedia:Carmen Miranda|Carmen Miranda]] in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*[[Wikipedia:Carmen Sandiego|Carmen Sandiego]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*Homestar as [[Wikipedia:Angus Young|Angus Young]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*Ozone (from the movie [[imdb:tt0086998|Breakin']]) in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*[[Wikipedia:Cesar Romero|Cesar Romero]] as [[Wikipedia:Joker (comics)|The Joker]] in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Jambi the Genie from [[Wikipedia:Pee-wee's Playhouse|Pee-wee's Playhouse]] in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"You will note the artist's attention to fine wines, his masterful use of shadow...stevens. Circle gets the square."|[[portrait]] outtake|Mirror:sb_stevens.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Alright I gotta get out of here. I'm meetin Delelilia for some vietma- viamatese tunuffins!"|[[senior prom]] outtake|Mirror:sb_vietbunmuffins.mp3}}
*{{qotw|The SBLOUNSKCHED! Bar jingle|[[candy product]]|Mirror:sblounskched.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Oh, if you want it to be possessive it's just 'its,' but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's I-T apostrophe S! ...scalawag."|[[local news]]|Mirror:sb_itsits.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"What?! ''[[Wikipedia:Under Siege 2: Dark Territory|Under Siege 2]]''?? You got me this for like the last 3 years, man!"|[[The Best Decemberween Ever]] outtake|Mirror:sb_undersiege2.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"The Cheatbot! Do you use that same mouth to kiss your... motherboard."|[[technology]] outtake|Mirror:sb_motherboard.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"They flew on a sweet, sweet mushroom bridge to the...baseball...game."|[[flashback]] outtake|Mirror:sb_baseballgame.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Oh! Very mean things...to say. Funny also, too."|QotW exclusive|Mirror:sb_verymean.mp3}}
*{{qotw|As [[Reynold]]: "Oh, I really need to go grocery shopping. I wish my girlfriend didn't leave me." |[[Cheat Commandos (toon)|Cheat Commandos]]|Mirror:reynold_groceries.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"You bet! Hit me on the slant!"|[[Senorial Day]]|Mirror:sb_hitmeontheslant.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Naw, it can't be heaven. There's not enough [[Wikipedia:Twinkies|Twinkies]]."|[[Where the Crap Are We?]]|Mirror:sb_twinkies.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I'm on a RAMPAGE!!"|[[rampage]]|Mirror:sb_rampage.mp3}}
*{{qotw|Imitating the [[Lappy 486]] startup noise: "Dong DIIING!!!"|[[animal]]|Mirror:sb_dongdling.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Oh. Why do you...guys...like me anymore. I—I've lost it!"|[[origins]] outtake|Mirror:sb_ivelostit.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Everyone is different. No two people are not on fire. Awww."|[[kids' book]]|Mirror:sb_no2people.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I doh du duoh [[Crapfully Yours|crapfully yours]]. ID DO DU DUOH CRAPFULLY YOURS!"|[[virus]]|Mirror:qod_sb_crapfullyours.mp3}}
*{{qotw|Sings the "You're a Girl" song|[[montage]]|Mirror:youreagirl.zip}}
*{{qotw|"And I'll just erase it using my... electron... towel."|[[haircut]] outtake|Mirror:sb_lightrag.mp3}}
*{{qotw|'''With [[Homestar Runner]]''': "Looks like we're gonna have to jump!"|[[dangeresque 3]]|Mirror:sbhs_havetojump.zip}}
*{{qotw|''{click}'' "Don't forget to experience the fury of our gift shooop." ''{click}''|[[theme park]]|Mirror:sb_giftshop.zip}}
*{{qotw|'''As [[Li'l Brudder]]''': "I can make it on my own!"|[[crying]]|Mirror:sb_brudder.zip}}
*{{qotw|"Strong Bad did a jig while holding all the grapes, and [[The Cheat]] learned to fly!"|[[kids' book]] Easter egg [[strongbad_email.exe|DVD version]]|Mirror:sb_jig.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Ah, the self-proclaimed King of Town. Like you aren't an easy jab for my witty glivers and put-dubs."|[[labor day]] outtake|Mirror:sb_kingmessup.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Jeez, The Cheat, you can't sneak up on a brotha like that!"|[[privileges]]|Mirror:sb_sneakup.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Possums!"|[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]]|Mirror:sb_possums.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Why you lazy crap for crap!"|[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]|Mirror:sb_crap4crap.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"This is the quote of the day!"|QotW exclusive|Mirror:sb_qod.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"You guys, that was a pretty good one."|QotW exclusive|Mirror:sb_fart.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Check me out! No, seriously, check me out."|A la [[First Time Here?]]|Mirror:sb_checkme2.mp3}}
*{{qotw|The Strong Bad Show theme song.|QotW exclusive|Mirror:sb_sbshow.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Okay, now I got to bust a wicked solo. ''{a crappy acoustic guitar solo is played}'' Thank you, goodnight!"|[[vacation]]|Mirror:sb_wickedsolo.mp3}}
*{{qotw|'''Strong Bad:''' "It's that cloc—" '''[[Mike Chapman]]:''' "Sorry."|[[vacation]] outtake|Mirror:sb_clockmessup.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Pretty impressive, huh? I bet you're pretty impressed."|[[Homestar Quiz]]|Mirror:sb_impressive.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I am the very strongest. You guys are not very strong."|[[Original Book|original book]] line|Mirror:sb_strongest.mp3}}
*{{qotw-nd|"Matt Equals MATT!!"|[[50 emails]]}}
|}

== See Also ==
*[[Strong Bad Evolution]]
*[[Strong Bad Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Strong Bad|Nicknames]]
*[[Senor Cardgage]]
*[[Strong Bad Lore]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:vcr_sb.html|watch Strong Bad's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_sb.swf|view the Flash file for Strong Bad's character video]]
*[mailto:strongbad@homestarrunner.com Email Strong Bad]

{{Characters|Strong Bad}}
[[Category:Strong Badia]]

part-time job

Rogue Leader — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:02:14 GMT

Rogue Leader: I don't see how this is notable

{{sbenav|121|radio|dreamail}}
[[Image:sbemail121.PNG|thumb|"It's a great day at Bubs' Concession Stand!"]]

Strong Bad proves he does more than just check e-mails, by showing everyone his part-time job!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}/[[Tragic Clown Dog]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}/[[Tito]], {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, [[Mrs. Bennedetto]]

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Stages|The Stage]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' January 3, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:29

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

== Transcript ==

''{As usual, Strong Bad is in front of his Lappy, checking his e-mail. Judging from the view of the room we can see around the Lappy, however, he does not seem to be at his desk, as he usually would be.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': A lot of ladies and a lot of girls... some healthy ladies and some healthy girls!
<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: besides..</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
Do you do anything besides checking e-mails? 
 
Sincerely, Hunter</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' Waudju- gighi- ikuh... What do you mean do I do anything else besides checking e-mails. 'Course I freakin' do! I do everything! Always! ''{clears the screen}'' Nature walks, Meet N' Greets, Bus Chucker Club, The League of Me and The Cheat Ice Cream Socials. Shut up! I even have a part-part-part-part-very part-time job, to which I am currently 15 minutes late.

''{Cut to the lower area of Marzipan's kitchen. Strong Bad has apparently been checking this e-mail under Marzipan's kitchen table. Homestar walks in, and is holding a tennis ball.}''

''{Strong Bad looks around in a panicked way.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': This is perfect! Just perfect! I couldn't be happier with my new invention! I'll call it...the Super Question Machine!!

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{whispering}'' I gotta try to sneak out of here without Homestar noticing me.

''{Homestar sets his tennis ball down on the table.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, you do.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Gonna need a diversion of some kind...

''{The Cheat walks in, humming to himself, wearing a top hat entitled "Tito" and a bow tie, and holding a cane. Homestar turns around to look at him. The camera pans left. The Cheat begins doing a dance.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, wow! What a great new invention!

''{Strong Bad crawls out from under the table, and gives The Cheat the thumbs up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nice work, The Cheat!

''{He proceeds to crawl away, while The Cheat's still humming.}''

''{Cut to Bubs' empty concession stand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{quietly while peeking out from behind the black}'' Perfect! Bubs must be passed out on the floor again.

''{Strong Bad disappears behind the screen, and begins walking toward the Stand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Comin' in to work on time..

''{Bubs pops up from under the counter. Strong Bad lets out a short yell.}''

'''BUBS:''' Aha!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Yells, then stutters a little.}''

'''BUBS:''' Late again, Strong Bad. I'm not running a country club, you know.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Quickly}'' But Mr. Bubs, I was just—

'''BUBS:''' ''{Interrupts}'' Wastin' time with that email show of yours again. That mess'll never get you anywhere!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes it will! You'll see! I'm gonna be big one day. I'm gonna be a famous email checker!

'''BUBS:''' And I'm gonna be two times two. Now put on your uniform and get to work!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You're gonna be ''what''?

''{The screen fades out and resumes to Strong Bad wearing a combination of a sad clown and a hotdog costume in front of Bubs' stand. Strong Bad is holding a paper, and a stack of papers sits next to him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right! Come on down to Bubs' and get you a free cup of ice with purchase of deluxe cup of ice of equal or lesser value.

'''BUBS:''' No, no. Work it, son, work it!

''{Strong Bad begins dancing and humming.}''

'''BUBS:''' That's it, that's it! Look out for Number 1!

''{Coach Z walks in.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, it's the hot dog clown! What fun!

''{Pom Pom's silhouette merges in.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Pom Pom, take a picture of me with the hot dog clown. It'll be classic!

''{Pom Pom bubbles, and takes out a camera. A huge flash is seen, and a camera shutter sound is heard. Coach Z falls over, leaning on Strong Bad.}

''{The camera zooms in to Bubs.}''

'''BUBS:''' Pictures with the tragic clown dog ain't free! Fifty bucks! ''Sixty'' bucks! Get back here and let me confiscate yo film!

''{The camera zooms back out to the four of them.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{running}'' Chorce, forsh! ''{He and Pom Pom run off screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's a great day at Bubs' Concession Stand! Sign up now for giving us money!

'''BUBS:''' Now isn't this better than sitting at your desk answerin' emails?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Actually, I was sitting under a kitchen table this week and...uh oh! The Lappy's probably almost out of juice! I gotta get back and end this email! Uhh.. say Bubs, I'm gonna need now off. Is that cool?

'''BUBS:''' Is Strong Sad cool?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, come on!

'''BUBS:''' You know all my policies! I'm not running a country club, you know.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, then, I quit.

'''BUBS:''' Fine! But don't even think about swiping that costume!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You made ''me'' buy this costume, remember?

'''BUBS:''' Oh. Right. Well then pleasure doing business wit' ya.

''{Strong Bad runs off in the costume.}

''{We cut back to the kitchen, where The Cheat has fallen over, still humming, and Homestar is standing over him. Strong Bad, now without costume, crawls back in.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' This is the most amazing undersea epic ever filmed.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' See, Hunter? I got all types of stuff going on. I've got so many facets, you don't even know what facets are. I'm like a hundredaire socialite out on the sce-

''{The Lappy powers down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh great. The battery ran out. I gotta figure out a way to end this email.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah you do.

''{Cut to Mrs. Bennedetto. Strong Bad slaps a paper on it with some text and a picture of him on it.}''

<blockquote>yeah buddy, 
i have muscles! 
 
ps: preeeeow</blockquote>

== Easter Eggs ==
* Click on "Bus Chucker Club" to see a post-it of Strong Bad's member badge.
* Click on "preeeeow" to make [[The Paper]] come down.
* Click on the microwave's "Broast" button to see ''[[Stookley's Hundredaire Socialite|Hundredaire Socialite]] [[Periodicals|magazine]]'', featuring "The Brains Behind [[Videlectrix]]."
* Click on the "Power" button to watch an extra scene with Strong Bad and Bubs.
:''{Cut to Bubs on [[Stages#Modern-Day Stage|the Stage]]. We see a [[Playbills|playbill]]:}''
{{playbill|1='''Dreamaway Johnny'''|2=''{A picture of Strong Bad kneeling on stage}''|3=<center>A Sweet 3-Acter Directed by Strong Bad Starring: Strong Bad and Buh-Hubs, man</center>}}

:''{The pamphlet zooms out. We see Bubs is standing in front of a cut-out of his stand reading MR LEGARM'S Bubs Stand. Strong Bad walks in.}''
:'''BUBS AS MR. LEGARM:''' Well look who decided to show up. Fifth time this week, Johnny.
:'''STRONG BAD AS JOHNNY:''' Oh I'm sorry Mr. Legarm. Honest I am! I just—
:'''MR. LEGARM:''' ''{interrupting}'' You just what? Lost track of time?
:'''JOHNNY:''' Yes sir. Only I wouldn't have to worry about that if I could just get the Johnny-Tron working.
:'''MR. LEGARM:''' You still wastin' time workin' on that time machine, Johnny? That's a pipe dream, son! Your future's here at the shop. Now sweep up! I got customers to tend to.
:'''JOHNNY:''' You'll see. Someday... someday...
:''{Music starts, and a spotlight goes over to Strong Bad.}''
:'''JOHNNY:''' ''{singing}'' When all my dreams come...truuuuuuuuue!
:''{As he sings the word "true" the orchestra hits a climactic chord. The audience claps; the curtain closes.}''

== Fun Facts ==

===Trivia===
*Bubs' flyers read:
<blockquote>GET YOU A FREE CUP OF 
ICE WITH PURCHASE OF 
DELUXE CUP OF ICE OF 
EQUAL OR LESSER VALUE. 
BUBS' CONSESSION STAND</blockquote>
*The clock on Mrs. Bennedetto is stuck on 9:48.
*This email is the first to show the back of the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] clearly. (It was obscured by Strong Bad's arm in [[animal]].)
*In the picture of himself that Strong Bad puts on Mrs. Bennedetto at the end of the email, his left hand does not have a boxing glove on it and you can see three fingers. This is the first time we have seen Strong Bad's fingers or hand without the boxing gloves on. Also, his mouth has teeth, instead of just a gap in his mask.
*This is the only email where you manually have to make The Paper come down at the end of it.
* This is the second time Bubs criticized Strong Bad about his "email show". The first time was in the email [[the process]].

===Remarks===
*Bubs has apparently discontinued his "free weekly spamvertisements" from [[unused emails]], from which Strong Bad was making $1,250 (5,000 emails × a quarter each) every time he sold a disk of addresses.
*The only way Bubs will have to honor his offer of "a free cup of ice with purchase of a deluxe cup of ice of equal or lesser value" is if he gives a free deluxe cup with the purchase of another deluxe cup, since a deluxe version of an item would be of ''greater'' value than the normal version.
*When Strong Bad is late to work, he grabs the frame of the cartoon, yet another example of a [[Fourth Wall Breaks|Fourth Wall Break]].
*Apparently the Lappy 486 also comes with a wireless Internet access card. Either that or Strong Bad downloaded his emails before heading to Marzipan's.
*Strong Bad also has an unspecified job at [[The Office]].
*Hunter's question was effectively answered just 10 emails ago in [[other days]].
*Breaking from his speech affect, [[Coach Z]] is able to pronounce the word, "dog" without saying "dorg."
*The Lappy has 5 minutes of battery life. This email was only [[Strong Bad Emails By Length|3:29]] long, indicating that Strong Bad had powered his Lappy on before the email began.

===Goofs===
*You can also make the circles appear when the scene switches to the microwave at the end really quickly.
*The Paper's "preeeeow" sound starts but gets cut off after less than a second when it cuts to the microwave.
*When Strong Bad turns around the teardrop on his hot dog clown suit switches sides.
**The hot dog clown may have a tear under each eye, because his nose is blocking the view.
*Despite his usual mercilessness on [[Strong Bad's Spelling|grammar and spelling]], Strong Bad omits a question mark in his first full sentence.

=== Glitches ===
* After watching the "Power Easter egg," the paper is down even if you haven't clicked on "preeeeow".
* On some earlier versions of Flash, you can hear the printer's scratching noise even before you click on "preeeeow".

===Inside References===
* The ''Hundredaire Socialite Magazine'' Easter egg features the familiar faces of [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]]; the photo is from [[Peasant's Quest Preview]].
*The Cheat wearing the top hat may be a reference to [[theme park]].
*Buh-Hubs was a filename in [[big white face]].
*"Hundredaire" was also used in the email "[[suntan]]".
* "[[Preeeeow]]" is what Strong Bad says in [[autobiography]] and [[haircut]], when attempting to prompt the printer to print out [[The Paper]]. It is the accepted onomatopoeia for The Paper's sound.
*The confused sounds Strong Bad makes at the beginning of the cartoon are almost identical to the ones he utters near the end of [[Everybody to the Limit]].
*When Strong Bad says, "I've got so many facets, you don't even know what facets are," he is referring to his description of [[Senor Cardgage]] in the email [[kind of cool]].
*The sound the Lappy makes when shutting down is the same sound from [[gimmicks]] (when the Tandy's display goes blank), [[caffeine]] (when Strong Sad no longer was caffeinated), and [[dangeresque 3]] when Strong Bad changed the signature (john newell, on) to john newell, off.
*The cup of ice is first referenced in [[no loafing]], as part of Bubs' Thirty Cent Lunch Special.
*When Strong Bad sings "I'm like a hundredaire socialite out on the sce—", it is in the same tune as the first Lappy e-mail rap ("Scroll buttons and The Lappy together at last...").
*Strong Bad previously appeared as a hot dog in [[island]].
*"Equal or lesser value" is a reference to the [[The King of Town|King of Town's]] character page.
* The battery running out is a reference to the limited battery power of the Lappy mentioned in its debut (animal): "One Half of Ten Minutes"

===Real-World References===
*The Tragic Clown Dog's necktie bends upwards like [[Wikipedia: Dilbert|Dilbert's]].
*Homestar doesn't demonstrate how his Super Question Machine works (which is just a tennis ball), but it could be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Magic 8-ball|Magic 8-ball]].
**It may also be a reference to the handheld version of the [[Wikipedia:20Q|20q]], a device that plays twenty questions and is about the size of a tennis ball.
*The pamphlet reading "Theater" in the Easter egg is a reference to the ubiquitous [[Wikipedia: Playbill|Playbill]] in Broadway shows.
*The name "Mr. Legarm" is probably a reference to the old saying of "... will cost you an arm and a leg", since Bubs is known to charge more for something than it is worth (such as when he charges $10 for severe pummelings in [[pom pom]]).

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
*Easter egg involving The Paper is automatically enabled without having to press a button.
===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Coach Z]])

'''MIKE:''' Surprise me.

'''COACH Z:''' OK then, Mike. I'm—

'''MIKE:''' ''{surprised}'' Oh! It's Coach Z!

'''COACH Z:''' I'm showing up to work! For once!

'''MIKE:''' It's about time.

'''COACH Z:''' Yeah!

'''MIKE:''' It's the first time ''ever'' you've showed up for work, Coach Z.

'''COACH Z:''' I don't like to come around you guys.

'''MIKE:''' Well, we—

'''COACH Z:''' So much.

'''MIKE:''' That's fine with us, too.

'''COACH Z:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' The feeling's mutual.

'''COACH Z:''' I heard that you didn't— You played basketball this morning and didn't take a shower.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Who told you that?

'''COACH Z:''' Uh, a couple of DVDs came by locker ''{pronounces it "lacker"}'' room.

'''MIKE:''' Your lacker room? Your lack of room?

'''COACH Z:''' No, it's the room I keep all my lacquer.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Oh, your ''lacquer'' room—

'''COACH Z:''' My lacquer things.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, OK. Uh, oh you remind—

'''COACH Z:''' What's that thing Homestar's holding there?

'''MIKE:''' That's— It's the super question machine.

'''COACH Z:''' It reminds me of one of those—

'''MIKE:''' Tennis balls?

'''COACH Z:''' Sprots.

'''MIKE:''' ''{repeats it exactly in an attempt to mock}'' Sprots. Coach Z, what do you mean by sprot?

'''COACH Z:''' I ''{laughs, sounding more like Matt}'' I'm mispronouncing "Sports" Mike, I'll tell you the truth.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' So now you're just, uh, switching letters around.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{whimpering}'' I just—

'''MIKE:''' You're not only adding 'R's to things, you're just switching letters around.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{still whimpering}'' It's true, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, OK.

'''COACH Z:''' Mork.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah...

'''COACH Z:''' Ir feer borld ''{meaning to say "I feel bad"}''

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, that's good...

'''COACH Z:''' ''{suddenly more serious}'' No, now listen, here! Because— when you talk about Bubs, you're talking about me. Because Bubs is a good guy and I'm worse.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' You, uh— You make a good appearance in this email, though.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{reassured}'' I do. I remember showing up for work that day.

'''MIKE:''' I don't think you— I think you were just passing through that day.

'''COACH Z:''' That clown!

'''MIKE:''' You like that clown—

'''COACH Z:''' That clown really knows how to work a fella.

'''MIKE:''' ''{dumbfounded}'' What do you mean? ''{laughs}''

'''COACH Z:''' You know. Give him— make him—

'''MIKE:''' A charlie horse, maybe?

'''COACH Z:''' Make him laugh. Yeah, give 'em—

'''MIKE:''' Look! Look at that guy!

'''COACH Z:''' —a real charlie horse. Oh, look. Yeah, take a—

'''MIKE:''' Do you have this picture somewhere?

'''COACH Z:''' I do—

'''MIKE:''' Framed, maybe?

'''COACH Z:''' I framed it and I put it in my lacquer room.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Is there a lack of room in your lacquer room?

'''COACH Z:''' There is.

'''MIKE:''' Is it full of lacq— Is it because it's a smaller room or because it's full of lacquer?

'''COACH Z:''' It's because it's a— it's a microwave.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' How many, uh, cans of lacquer can you fit in there?

'''COACH Z:''' About five.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, OK. So you just got like pint-sized cans—

'''COACH Z:''' Don't turn that thing on, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' No?

'''COACH Z:''' I tell you what.

'''MIKE:''' What happens?

'''COACH Z:''' You don't have a lacquer room no more.

'''MIKE:''' They'll usually take that back.

'''COACH Z:''' Pardon?

'''MIKE:''' They'll take it back. The lacquer rooms. If you break 'em.

'''COACH Z:''' Really?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, you can take it to the store. They'll get you a new one.

'''COACH Z:''' That's pretty good then.

'''MIKE:''' Warranty. Yeah. ''{long pause}'' What else you got there, Coach Z?

'''COACH Z:''' That's it!

'''MIKE:''' You're done?

'''COACH Z:''' Mm-hm.

'''MIKE:''' You're not gonna even show up for a full day's here. You're petering out halfway through the email—

'''COACH Z:''' Now look. I had lunch, went back to my desk, and I'm zoning out.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah?

'''COACH Z:''' I'm just gonna get on Instant Messager and tell the boss.

'''MIKE:''' Is it Instant ''Messenger'' or ''Messager''? I've always been confused.

'''COACH Z:''' Messen—

'''MIKE:''' Messenger?

'''COACH Z:''' I think so.

'''MIKE:''' Um, K. 'Cause it could be "Messager," too. ''{pause}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{suddenly and quickly}'' Look, a lacquer room!

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|121|1652}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]][[Category:Advertisements]]

Store Thank You Messages

Rogue Leader — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:20:02 GMT

Rogue Leader: Reverted edits by Toga! nice manskirt (Talk); changed back to last version by Thunderbird L17

After buying an item from the [[Store]], you'll be taken to one of four '''Store Thank You Messages'''. Which one you get depends both on the time on your computer clock and luck of the draw. If you try to access the page without buying anything, you will be taken to a fifth bonus page.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}

'''Places:''' [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Smoky Office]], [[The Field]], [[Homestar's House]], [[Macromedia Flash|Flash]] Plugin Page

'''Date:''' Monday, May 23, 2005

'''Total Running Time:''' 1:02

'''Page Title:''' Thank you so much for to buying our crap!!

== Bubs' Thank You ==
'''Running Time:''' 0:05[[Image: Thank You 1.PNG|thumb|"That'll be five dollars!"]]
This is one of the three randomly chosen thank you pages, reached after buying something from the store between the hours of 5:00 am and 11:59 pm, according to your computer clock. It changes slightly according to the time of day you view it. If you reach this page between 5:00 and 5:59 am, it will have a red sunrise background. Between 6:00 am to 6:59 pm it will have a regular blue sky background, from 7:00 to 7:59 pm it will have a red sunset background, and from 8:00 to 11:59 pm it will have a starry sky background.

===Transcript===

'''BUBS:''' Hey, thanks for buying some of my junk! Oh! ''{places a sign on the stand that says "THANK YOU'S $5"}'' That'll be five dollars!

== Strong Bad and The Cheat's Thank You ==
'''Running Time:''' 0:11[[Image: Thank You 2.PNG|thumb|"Another extremely expensive light, please."]]
This is one of the three randomly chosen thank you pages, reached after buying something from the store between the hours of 5:00 am and 11:59 pm, according to your computer clock.

===Transcript===

''{Strong Bad is sitting in the [[Smoky Office]] surrounded by piles of cash and holding a glass of red wine.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thank you for all your money, er, business. All your business... that you gave us. ''{holds up a [[Cigarettes#Cigars|cigar]]}'' The Cheat? Another extremely expensive light, please.

''{[[The Cheat]] comes in from the side of the screen, with a lit pile of money, and lights the cigar with it.}''

==Homestar and Marzipan's Thank You ==
'''Running Time:''' 0:23[[Image: Thank You 3.PNG|thumb|"All right, broken up."]]
This is one of the three randomly-chosen thank you pages, reached after buying something from the store between the hours of 5:00 am and 11:59 pm, according to your computer clock. It changes slightly according to the time of day you view it. If you reach this page between 5:00 and 5:59 am, it will have a red sunrise background. Between 6:00 am to 5:59 pm it will have a regular blue sky background, from 7:00 to 7:59 pm it will have a red sunset background, and from 8:00 to 11:59 pm it will have a starry sky background.

===Transcript===
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ahem! ''{singing}'' I want to thank you for your purchase, toniiiiight, todaaaay! A-thank you!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{walking on with [[Carol]]}'' Okay Homestar, I'm ready to record the thank you song.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ah, too late, go away.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{upset}'' All right, broken up.

== Late Night Thank You ==
'''Running Time:''' 0:17[[Image: Thank You 4.PNG|thumb|"You should really get to bed."]]
This thank you page is reached after buying something from the store between the hours of 12:00 and 4:59 am, according to your computer clock.

===Transcript===
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{yawn}'' Oh, hi there. We appreciate you buying stuff from us and everything, but um, ''{yawn}'' you should really get to bed.

== Back Door Message ==
'''Running Time:''' 0:06[[Image: Thank You 5.PNG|thumb|"Why don't you buy something?"]]
This scene is reached by trying to view the thank you page without ordering something beforehand (see external links).

===Transcript===
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, thought you could sneak in the back door, eh? Why don't you buy something!?

==Fun Facts==

*To see the different purchase scenes, set your system clock between midnight and 4:59 am (or if already set there, between 5:00 am and midnight) then click on your back button. This can be done multiple times, just keep setting the clock to the desired time and going back. (Note: the same scene will always play when your clock is set between midnight and 4:59 am as stated above)
*The filename for Bubs' Thank You, thankyou_bubsness.swf, is a reference to the older version of the [[Broken Compy Menu]].
*The page title, "Thank you so much for to buying our crap", is a reference to the ending of Super Mario 64, where Mario says a similar line, "Thank you so much for to playing my game," at the end of the credits roll.

==External Links==
*[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/heythanks.html Watch the accessible "Back door" Thank You] 
*[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou.swf View The "Back door" Flash file]

[[Category:Store|Thank_You_Messages]]

User:Rogue Leader

Rogue Leader — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:35:02 GMT

Rogue Leader: +1

[[Image:Jess-dogs.JPG|thumb|A picture of my beloved dogs and sister.]]
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So my name is Rogue Leader on H*R wiki. My real name is Dan Henderson, and I am from Hollidaysburg, PA.

==About Me, Nonwiki==
Like I said, my name is Dan Henderson. Call me Rogue or Rogue Leader. I like to watch weather and [[Wikipedia:Law and Order|Law and Order]], swiming and going to camps. I have two [[Wikipedia:Bichon|dogs]], one, a frise and the other, a havanese. I am active on the IRC channel and you can see me there on scheluled chats and other times.

==Me and Homestar==
I have loved Homestar since I first laid eyes on him at a camp out in my friends back yard. I like to go to the [[STUFF]] page and look at those strange facts. The merchandise that I got is [[The Cheat]] plush toy, the [[DVD]], and the figurines.

==Profile==
Back in the day, these were sorta hot, so I decided to put this in. Prepare to laugh.

'''Age''': 13

'''Height''': 5 foot 11

'''Best SBemail''': [[rock opera]]

'''Toon''': [[A Jorb Well Done]]

'''Holiday Toon''': [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig|All Hallow's Eve Potion Collection day]]

'''Top 5 Characters''': 1. [[Pom-Pom]] 2. [[Homsar]] 3.[[The Cheat]] 4. [[Homestar]] 5. [[Strong Bad]]

'''Best Game: Legend of Zelda''': Ocarana of Time, Super Mario 64, Super Smash Bros. Melee. Stinkoman and Peasants Quest

'''Favorite Easter egg''': Strumstar Hammer.

==Quotes==
Some quotes I like. Good times... Good times.

*I'm just me, can't you see? I am just a silly little bumblebee.- '''[[Homsar]]'''

*Buttdance Again! like the rhythms down your pants now-'''[[Homestar Runner]]'''

*DELORTED!!! '''[[Coach Z]]'''

*I can count to G! '''[[Whats Her Face]]'''

*And I'll never, ever, ever, ever, ever write a song about Sibbie.-'''[[Strong Bad]]'''

==My Wiki Contributions and Projects==
Here are my contributions that I am particularly proud of and some of my projects.
Favorite contributions:
*Made the [[Rock Opera (karaoke)]] page,
*[[Sample of Style Too: Some Outtakes]],
*[[Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough_Level_9|The 9.1 walkthorugh]].
*Unofficially made [[The Dancing Brothers]] Page. By that, I made an image, [[User:Bkmlb|bkmlb]] put that up, and I did the rest.
*Uploaded [[Peasant's Quest Items]] and added a table section, but HSRusername did the brunt work.
*I have made the following DVD commentaries: [[origins]] [[extra plug]] [[crying]] [[other days]]
*I have recently tagged 400 images with <nowiki>{{web-screenshot}} or {{game-screenshot}}</nowiki>, for which I received this.
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'''People welcomed''': 194

'''Trolls added to WikiTroll''': 14

'''Currently working on''': Natta.

User talk:Castaway

Rogue Leader — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:33:11 GMT

Rogue Leader: Welcome!

User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings

Rogue Leader — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:49:56 GMT

Rogue Leader: Dunno why I signed

Occasionally, we at our fair wiki lose our minds and go into senseless (and often stupid) edit wars. Here, I am compiling these for our entertainment.

==Toons==
*[[Talk:theme song#Spelling of "Gip"|theme song]]. Is "gip" a misspelling of "gyp", or just a variant? Is it really a epithet for gypsies, or does it have some other etymology? These questions and more, and occasionally an answer or two.

==Games==

==Characters==
*[[Talk:Arrow'd Guy# An official name?|Arrow'd Guy]]. Ah, the Arrow'd Guy. Few people have caused so many insults. From telling us to get a life, or that we are behind the times, Arrow'd Guy/Man with the Huge Mouth continues to entertain and offend us for so long.
*[[Talk:Visor Robot# Sketchbook, 2005-04-29|Visor Robot]]. Should the article have the descriptive-but-fan-created name "Visor Robot" or the inaccurate-and-non-canon-but-official name "Fhqwhgads Robot"? Many suggestions (and insults) are thrown around.

==Secret Pages==
*[[Talk:If I Ran the Camera#Privacy|If I Ran the Camera]]. Quite possibly the biggest edit war this wiki has seen. Not only do we kill each other over a wee little link. Examples of mud slinging include "Shows how much you know" and "Rabid, zealous, Homestar Fans". Reminded me of a Kindergarden class...

==Misfits==
*[[HRWiki Talk:Guestbooks|Guestbooks]]. From senseless mud slingings to just plain name calling, This has it all. It has transcended all boundaries of foolishness and began to set a league of its own. Truly, this has gone from being a debate to a major headache for most wiki users.
*[[User:Lapper|Lapper]]. The biggest misfit I know of.

User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings

Rogue Leader — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 00:21:20 GMT

Rogue Leader: Added misfit section

Occasionally, we at our fair wiki lose our minds and go into senseless (and often stupid) edit wars. Here, I am compiling these for our entertainment.

==Toons==
*[[Talk:theme song|theme song]]. Is "gip" a misspelling of "gyp", or just a variant? Is it really a epithet for gypsies, or does it have some other etymology? These questions and more, and occasionally an answer or two.

==Games==

==Characters==
*[[Talk:Arrow'd Guy#An Official Nickname?|Arrow'd Guy]]. Ah, the Arrow'd Guy. Few people have caused so many insults. From telling us to get a life, or that we are behind the times, Arrow'd Guy/Man with the Huge Mouth continues to entertain and offend us for so long.
*[[Talk:Visor Robot|Visor Robot]]. Should the article have the descriptive-but-fan-created name "Visor Robot" or the inaccurate-and-non-canon-but-official name "Fhqwhgads Robot"? Many suggestions (and insults) are thrown around.

==Secret Pages==
*[[Talk:If I Ran the Camera#Privacy|If I Ran the Camera]]. Quite possibly the biggest edit war this wiki has seen. Not only do we kill each other over a wee little link. Examples of mud slinging include "Shows how much you know" and "Rabid, zealous, Homestar Fans". Reminded me of a Kindergarden class...

==Misfits==
*[[HRWiki Talk:Guestbooks|Guestbooks]]. From senseless mud slingings to just plain name calling, This has it all. It has transcended all boundaries of foolishness and began to set a league of its own. Truly, this has gone from being a debate to a major headache for most wiki users. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

*[[User:Lapper|Lapper]]. The biggest misfit I know of.

theme song

Rogue Leader — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 23:42:35 GMT

Rogue Leader: While I like the joke... it doesn't belong, sadly

{{aboutemail}}{{forshort|Theme Song Video}}
{{sbenav|155|keep cool|some kinda robot}}
[[Image:sbemail155.png|thumb|The email-checkinest guy in the land]]

Strong Bad explains why his email show doesn't have an official theme song.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Trogdor}}, {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, [[Balding Man]], {{Film|Fightgar}}, {{Film|Reynold}}, [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Powered by The Cheat Strong Mad|Powered by The Cheat Strong Mad]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Club Technochocolate]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Outer Space]], [[Alleyway]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Desert]].

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' August 7, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:57

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' When email comes to town, you know, you know, it's like a rainstorm... in your browser. ''{brings up the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: theme song</div>
Dear Super Bad, 
It bugs me how your email show doesn't have a theme song. 
If it did have a theme song, your show would be a whole 
lot cooler. 
Jonathan Shaheen 
Ontario, Canada
</blockquote>

''{He pronouces "Shaheen" as "Shaheeeeen", and lens flares and a sound effect appear over the name. He pronounces the location as "on-ta-REE-oh, cah-nah-DAH" (as though with a Mexican accent)}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh, a little south of the border flavor. ''{typing}'' Dear Supper Bag, It bugs ''me'' how your face doesn't have a not tons of acne. If it did have a not tons of acne, ''you'' would be a whole lot cooler.

''{Strong Bad clears the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Look, you don't know what you're talking about, Shaheen ''{Strong Bad pronounces "Shaheen" as "Shaheeeen", and the Shaheen special effect appears over the word}''  Theme songs are just an excuse for showmakers to make less show. I'm sure viewership would triple if I had one of those crappy cartoon theme songs that bludgeons you over the head with the blunt end of the show's premise.

''{Theme song music fades in over his last words. Cut to a smiling Strong Bad prancing in the basement.}''

'''CRAPPY CARTOON THEME SONG:''' ''{singing}'' 
Strong Bad is a wrestle man, 
He's the email-checkinest guy in the land. 
He checks real emails from the net, 
He's got two brothers and The Cheat, his pet. The Cheat, his Pet! 

''{"STRONG BAD" appears on the screen as the name is sung. Strong Bad types with boxing gloves on. Lappy flies into the screen, showing an email from punkkid87.}''

<blockquote class="lappy email" style="background-image:none">
Dear Strong Bad, 
I love your Tragdor! 
Draw him AGAIN!!! 
-punkkid87
</blockquote>

''{Strong Mad and Strong Sad dance in the disco as they are announced. The Cheat slides into the screen and gets a close-up.}''

There's nobody dumber than Homestar Runner, 
On ''The Strong Bad Email Show''!

''{Homestar Runner breaks through the computer desk and bites into a sandwich of light bulbs. He has large cartoon teeth. The title of the Strong Bad show appears with Strong Bad's smiling face in front of a pink heart design.}''

''{The music ends. Cut back to Strong Bad sitting in front of the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And the ratings have gone through the roof. And let's not forget the life-affirming pop-ballad type theme song. Probably sung by some variety of Neville.

''{Fade to a scene with an empty computer desk. The title "the Strong Bad Email Show" flies into the screen. There are flowers on the desk and pictures of The Cheat, Strong Mad and Strong Bad on the wall. The characters are introduced with their pictures flying through the screen and their names appearing on the screen. Strong Bad shows a shadow Trogdor to The Cheat.}''

'''POP BALLAD-TYPE THEME SONG:''' ''{singing}'' 
You and me babe, livin' for dreams. 
Life is for love, drinkin' for free. 
Sitting on top of a lone robot, sharing and caring it out. 
Memory struggling ...

''{The music fades out and a clip montage starts, as Strong Bad's voiceover begins. Strong Bad is shown drinking a mix of coffee and a "COLDSON Lite" from a novelty drinking hat; he floats through space; he looks up from typing on his laptop, and then throws a stack of paper in the air.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And of course the best clips they show are from the un-aired pilot that you'll never see.

'''POP BALLAD-TYPE THEME SONG:''' ''{singing}'' 
Memory struggling you down! ''{fade out}''

''{The final shot shows Strong Bad in a tank before the clip montage fades out to "created by Lem Sportsinterviews".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And just when you think you finally get to start watching some of the actual show, now you get to watch a commercial!

''{Cut to real-life hands holding coins and peanuts. "$BUTT" is stamped on the screen, and then a Cakkalate brand calculator displays "BUTT X 2". Cut to the CGNU online e-niversity: "website Coming Soon(ish)". A set of college flags is shown, and then a hand clicking a mouse button demonstrates how easy it is to get degrees.}''

'''COMMERCIAL GUY 1:''' ''{voiceover}'' Do you make butt at your current job? Do you want to make twice butt? A shady online degree is just four clicks away at CGNU online e-niversity. Most colleges take four years to complete. At CGNU, one year equals one click.

''{Cut to Senor Cardgage in front of some boxes. His degrees are displayed on the screen as he moves his hand down.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' I got fourteen degrees while on my lunch take. Now I can legally prescribe marriages in the state of Kansattica.

'''COMMERCIAL GUY 1:''' ''{voiceover}'' Enroll now, and join the e-niversity e-volution e-day. Uh, well, today. That last one didn't quite work out.

''{The slogan is displayed over an "(On)line CGNU e-NIVERSITY" medal, as the commercial guy #1 says it.}''

''{Cut to a Powered By The Cheat-style intertitle showing Strong Bad chasing his laptop.}''

'''ANNOUNCER 1:''' ''{voiceover}'' We'll be right back with more ''Strong Bad Emails''.

''{Cut to balding man standing in front of a newspaper background.}''

'''COMMERCIAL GUY 2:''' ''{voiceover}'' Do you wanna cut your own arm off?

'''BALDING MAN:''' Huuuuaaaahuuuh...

''{Cut back to Strong Bad typing on his computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Now, don't worry. Just in case you were hoping to get gipped out of another minute of actual show, you get to hear the jazzy instrumental version over the end credits!

''{Cut to Strong Bad talking into a microphone in front of Bubs' concession stand at night. End credits are shown over the scene.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And on the off-chance that you actually wanted to hear the theme song... we've taken care of that, too.

''{A program preview moves into the screen and squeezes the Strong Bad Email Show end credits into the left third of the screen. As the announcer announces ''Three is 4 Tonite'', the logo and the faces of the four main characters are shown. The graphics for the ''Cheat Commandos'' show Reynold being taped to a rocket and Fightgar checking the tape.}''

'''ANNOUNCER 2:''' ''{voiceover}'' Coming up later on ''Three is 4 Tonite'': join Mandy, Brandy, Andy, and Scurge, as they learn how to give a care. But first: they're tiny, they're toony, they're ''all'' a little loony. It's the Cheat Commandos.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' You see, Shaheen? ''{The Shaheen special effect appears}'' You're basically asking me to dedicate 2 minutes of my 3 to 5 minute email show, to what is essentially a commercial for something you're already watching! And besides, I give you people a new sbemail song every freakin' week. Allow me to leave you with the old standard 'When Email Comes to Town, You Know, You Know, It's Like a Rainstorm... In Your Browser.' ''{stops typing and starts singing}'' When email comes to town, you know, you know, it's like a rainstorm... in your browser.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

''{Funky theme song music is played, while the Powered by The Cheat show preview squeezes into the screen.}''

'''ANNOUNCER 3:''' ''{voiceover}'' ''{chuckles}'' Next up on ''Powered By The Cheat'': Strong Mad gets his own talk show. And his first guest is hilarity!

''{Powered by The Cheat Strong Mad sits behind a late night talk show host desk in front of a skyline, and the guest with a The Cheat face with glasses jumps up from his seat and bounces in front of the camera.}''

==Easter Egg==
* Click on the talk show guest's [[The Cheat's Gold Tooth|gold tooth]] at the end of the email to see the Shaheen special effect.

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}
===Explanations===
*"Ad valorem" is a Latin phrase meaning "according to an object's value."
*In the final credits, the credits for "Best Grip" and "Key Boy" are reversed versions of standard film credits [[Wikipedia:Best boy|best boy]] and [[Wikipedia:Key grip|key grip]].

===Trivia===
*This is the first time we see Homestar's teeth.
*This is another email in which we can see [[Strong Mad Smiling]], this time in the background of the second theme song.
*The floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#california_games|california games]]".
*The credits during the second theme song read:
**starring strong bad
**strong mad
**and the cheat baxter-birney
**produced by Levert Burtmore
**casting by Jess Ballthrow
**executive producer Smarmy Cafe
**created by Lem Sportsinterviews
*The navigation buttons in the web browser showing the CGNU online e-niversity read, from left to right:
**This way
**That way
**No way
**A dog
*The college pennants (read clockwise from the top) are:
**I Love Most Colleges! (White against a blue background)
**Shower (White against an orange background with a baseballcap next to the text)
**Biscuit Gravy University (White against a purple background with a biscuit outlined by lavender in the background)
**TWO STRIPS!! (Brown against a yellow background with two strips of bacon beneath the text)
**FROGS!! (White on green with a white frog outlined to the left of the text)
**Homestar's Knees Tech (Pale yellow against a maroon background)
**STATE U (Black outlined white against a red background)
[[Image:CGNU_degrees.png|thumb|right|300px|Senor Cardgage's CGNU online diplomas]]
*The degrees available from CGNU online e-niversity (or at least the ones Senor Cardgage earned on his "lunch take") are:
**Business Administration
**Business Abomination
**Mousepad Engineer
**Infotainment Technology
**e-Cutting Ones
**The Lighter Side of Sports
**[[Matt Chapman|Matt]]'s Communications
**Business Wheeling
**Insider Trading
**Computer Graphs
**Bidness Dealing
**Caps Lock Technician
**Escrow Understandment
**Marriage Apothecary
*The credits in the middle of the email read:
**co-created by strong bad and [[Cherry Greg|cherry greg]]
**based upon the comedy stylings of [[Lil' Strong Bad|little strong bad]]
**teleplay by Sir [[Dolph Hauldhagen]]
**theme song by a Neville of some sort
**closing theme song by a Marsalis or two
**this has been a [[Cheap as Free|cheap as free]] production
*The credits at the end of the email read:
**Written by Geoff Rondleman
**Directed by Hot Tub T
**Produced by [[A. Chimendez]]
**Key Boy Tim "Timmers" Ballthrow
**Best Grip Not [[Lem Sportsinterviews]]
**Playa Hata [[Wikipedia:Stuart Scott|Stu Scott]]
**Script Supervisor Sid Hoffrenchman
**This show was filmed in front of a live studio audience.
**Soundtrack available as Cheap as Free Records
*The website for CGNU (http://www.cgnuonline-eniversity.edu/) does not exist, as only actual educational institutions can register .edu addresses. However, a fan has registered http://www.cgnuonline-eniversity.com/, and recreated the page seen in the email; the list of degrees can be found by clicking on the exclamation point after "website Coming Soon(ish)"

===Remarks===
*"BUTT X 2" is the display on the calculator held upside down. It is not possible for most calculators to display "U" and "T" upside down (the typed numbers would have to be similar to a lowercase "N" and two "L"s back to back).
*"We'll be right back with more Strong Bad Email" is most likely voiced by [[Missy Palmer]], as it bears a resemblance to [[Marzipan]]'s voice.
*During the Crappy Cartoon theme song, the "Trogdor" email on the Lappy is displayed with the font from the [[Compy 386]], instead of the Lappy's current font.

===Goofs===
[[Image:SBETheme Song Goof.PNG|thumb|Mouthless...]]
[[Image:Sbscreen.PNG|thumb|Hilarity!]]

*There is no punctuation mark after Strong Bad types "Shaheen!" for the first time.
*During the scene in the end credits with Strong Bad telling jokes, his mouth disappears for one frame.

===Glitches===
*Strong Bad's head pokes into the Powered By The Cheat preview when the preview squeezes into the screen.

===Inside References===
*Once again, Strong Bad is called a [[Wrestleman]].
*In the theme song we see a close-up on how Strong Bad [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|types with boxing gloves]].
*The email shown in the first theme song asks Strong Bad to draw [[Trogdor]] again – one of the [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006#Pre-animation Process - 4:05 p.m.|commonly sent emails that will not be answered]].
*The name of the email author who wants Strong Bad to draw Trogdor refers to the year [[1987]].
*Homestar Runner was first obsessed with light bulbs in [[long pants]].
*The flowers in the pot in the second theme song are from [[Summer Short Shorts]].
*Strong Bad is drinking [[Cold One#Coldson Lite|Coldson Lite]] from his hat.
*The email show is produced by [[Levert Burtmore]].
*The tank has the [[Strong Badia]] emblem on it.
*"BUTT X 2" is shown on a [[Cakkalate]]-brand calculator, which was introduced in [[technology]].
*[[Crazy Go Nuts University]] is offering online degrees.
*"Homestar's Knees Tech" is mentioned in [[mascot]].
*One of the courses Senor Cardgage took was "e-Cutting Ones" – "Cutting Ones" was offered in [[CGNU]].
*"Escrow" is one of the services offered by [[Senor Cardgage Mort-gage]].
*The Balding Man is in the same scene as he was in [[Senor Mortgage]].
*According to the credits, "The Strong Bad Email Show" is based on the comedy [[Style|stylings]] of Little Strong Bad, a reference to [[stand-up]].
*The teleplay was written by Sir [[Dolph Hauldhagen]], from [[other days]].
*According to the final end credits, the show was written by Geoff [[Unseen Characters#Mentioned|Rondleman]], previously mentioned in [[Biz Cas Fri 1]].
*It was directed by "[[Hot Tub]] T", a character in [[dangeresque 3|Dangeresque 1: Dangeresque, Too?]].
*The script supervisor was "Sid Hoffrenchman", a reference to [[Homestar's "Sid" Game]] in [[date]].
*Strong Mad's having his own show was previously suggested in [[the facts]].
**Also referenced in this email from [[the facts]] is the "We'll Be Right Back..." card, but with Strong Bad instead of Homestar.
*The "[[Strong Badia Action Cool News 5|Number Five Action Cool]]" logo, in the lower right hand corner at the end of the email, and the "Incredibly Local News", are references to [[local news]].

===Real-World References===
*"Theme songs are just an excuse for showmakers to make less show" is exemplified with how [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]]' producers can make the theme song longer or shorter depending on the length of the show.
*The heart sign shown at the end of the 1st theme song is very similar to the same one found at the end of each episode of [[Wikipedia:The Powerpuff Girls|The Powerpuff Girls]] Cartoon.
* "They're tiny, they're toony, they're all a little loony" is a paraphrase of the first line of the theme song to [[Wikipedia:Tiny Toon Adventures|Tiny Toon Adventures]].
* In the second theme song, there are several successive references to late-'80s television shows:
** The succession of picture frames was a common element of several shows.
** The lyrics closely resemble the second verse from [http://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/growingpainslyrics.html the theme song] from ''[[Wikipedia:Growing_Pains|Growing Pains]]''.
** "The Cheat Baxter-Birney" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Meredith Baxter|Meredith Baxter]] (formerly Meredith Baxter Birney, from ''[[Wikipedia:Family Ties|Family Ties]]'').
** The font and style of "created by Lem Sportsinterviews" (yellow [[Wikipedia:Cooper Black|Cooper Black]] letters on a completely black background) is a reference to the closing credits of ''[[Wikipedia:Cheers|Cheers]]''.
*Strong Bad in front of the brick wall in the closing credits, as well as the credit "based on the comedy stylings of Little Strong Bad", refers to Jerry Seinfeld's ending stand-up comedy segment of episodes of ''[[Wikipedia:Seinfeld|Seinfeld]]''.
* "Probably sung by some variety of Neville" refers to [[Wikipedia:The Neville Brothers|The Neville Brothers]], a group of soul singers. The most famous Neville brother, [[Wikipedia:Aaron Neville|Aaron Neville]], has a distinctive vibrato that has inspired many parodies throughout pop culture.
* "Closing theme song by a Marsalis or two" refers to the [[Wikipedia:Marsalis|Marsalis]] family of jazz musicians.
* [http://www.tvimedia.com/1_lss.htm The Lighter Side of Sports], a long-running, syndicated TV show, is one of Senor Cardgage's degrees.
* The line "Do you want to cut your own arm off?" may refer to an Adjustable Rate Mortgage or A.R.M.
* The CGNU e-Niveristy commercial is a parody of online colleges.
* The style of the web browser used in the CGNU e-Niveristy strongly resembles [[Wikipedia:Internet_Explorer_for_Mac|Internet Explorer for Macintosh]].
* Stuart Scott, mentioned in the end credits, is a reporter for ESPN. "Playa hata", his title, refers to one of his oft-used phrases on air.

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|155|9407}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

[[Category:Powered by The Cheat]]

User talk:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars

Rogue Leader — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 23:36:21 GMT

Rogue Leader: User talk:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars moved to User talk:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings: Clarifying

#REDIRECT [[User talk:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings]]

User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars

Rogue Leader — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 23:36:21 GMT

Rogue Leader: User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars moved to User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings: Clarifying

#REDIRECT [[User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings]]

User talk:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings

Rogue Leader — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 23:36:21 GMT

Rogue Leader: User talk:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars moved to User talk:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings: Clarifying

==Edit Wars That Weren't==
[[If I Ran the Camera]] has actually not seen an edit war [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=If_I_Ran_the_Camera&action=history] according to the Wikipedia definition(s) of [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Edit war|edit war]]. Maybe change the title to "Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud-slinging"? ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
:Well, I took this out of context from Wikipedia's LAME, which appears to have things like ours, but I will move it to the title you suggested. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings

Rogue Leader — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 23:36:21 GMT

Rogue Leader: User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars moved to User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings: Clarifying

Occasionally, we at our fair wiki lose our minds and go into senseless (and often stupid) edit wars. Here, I am compiling these for our entertainment.

==Toons==
*[[Talk:theme song|theme song]]. Is "gip" a misspelling of "gyp", or just a variant? Is it really a epithet for gypsies, or does it have some other etymology? These questions and more, and occasionally an answer or two.

==Games==

==Characters==
*[[Talk:Arrow'd Guy#An Official Nickname?|Arrow'd Guy]]. Ah, the Arrow'd Guy. Few people have caused so many insults. From telling us to get a life, or that we are behind the times, Arrow'd Guy/Man with the Huge Mouth continues to entertain and offend us for so long.
*[[Talk:Visor Robot|Visor Robot]]. Should the article have the descriptive-but-fan-created name "Visor Robot" or the inaccurate-and-non-canon-but-official name "Fhqwhgads Robot"? Many suggestions (and insults) are thrown around.

==Secret Pages==
*[[Talk:If I Ran the Camera#Privacy|If I Ran the Camera]]. Quite possibly the biggest edit war this wiki has seen. Not only do we kill each other over a wee little link. Examples of mud slinging include "Shows how much you know" and "Rabid, zealous, Homestar Fans". Reminded me of a Kindergarden class...

User talk:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings

Rogue Leader — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 23:35:10 GMT

Rogue Leader: Reply for Loafing

User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings

Rogue Leader — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 23:33:47 GMT

Rogue Leader: Added another

Occasionally, we at our fair wiki lose our minds and go into senseless (and often stupid) edit wars. Here, I am compiling these for our entertainment.

==Toons==
*[[Talk:theme song|theme song]]. Is "gip" a misspelling of "gyp", or just a variant? Is it really a epithet for gypsies, or does it have some other etymology? These questions and more, and occasionally an answer or two.

==Games==

==Characters==
*[[Talk:Arrow'd Guy#An Official Nickname?|Arrow'd Guy]]. Ah, the Arrow'd Guy. Few people have caused so many insults. From telling us to get a life, or that we are behind the times, Arrow'd Guy/Man with the Huge Mouth continues to entertain and offend us for so long.
*[[Talk:Visor Robot|Visor Robot]]. Should the article have the descriptive-but-fan-created name "Visor Robot" or the inaccurate-and-non-canon-but-official name "Fhqwhgads Robot"? Many suggestions (and insults) are thrown around.

==Secret Pages==
*[[Talk:If I Ran the Camera#Privacy|If I Ran the Camera]]. Quite possibly the biggest edit war this wiki has seen. Not only do we kill each other over a wee little link. Examples of mud slinging include "Shows how much you know" and "Rabid, zealous, Homestar Fans". Reminded me of a Kindergarden class...

User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings

Rogue Leader — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:07:56 GMT

Rogue Leader: typo

Occasionally, we at our fair wiki lose our minds and go into senseless (and often stupid) edit wars. Here, I am compiling these for our entertainment.

==Toons==

==Games==

==Characters==

==Secret Pages==
*[[Talk:If I Ran the Camera#Privacy|If I Ran the Camera]]. Quite possibly the biggest edit war this wiki has seen. Not only do we kill each other over a wee little link. Examples of mud slinging include "Shows how much you know" and "Rabid, zealous, Homestar Fans". Reminded me of a Kindergarden class...

User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings

Rogue Leader — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:07:21 GMT

Rogue Leader: Added my new subpage. Feel free to add things to it.

Weclome Back

Rogue Leader — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 04:14:40 GMT

Rogue Leader: Nope, it is a reference to Thy Dungeon Man

{{toonnav|Big Toon|weclomeback|A Folky Tale|The King of Town DVD}}
[[Image:Weclome Back.PNG|thumb|"What is it, like, mid-May or something?"]]
Homestar and the gang all reflect on their summer vacation.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, [[Eh! Steve]] (Easter egg), {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Topiary Garden]], [[The Island]], [[Obstacle Course]], [[Airplane]]

'''Date:''' July 3, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 4:37

'''Page Title:''' Your dreams were your ticket out...

==Transcript==
''{A closeup of a time clock attached to a telephone pole. A time card is punched in. The words "Weclome Back" are shown, and flash various colors. Pull out to see Bubs holding a cup of coffee, in front of a table with styrofoam cups and an urn, in the Field. Marzipan enters and also punches in.}''

'''BUBS:''' Well, hello, Marzi-person! Welcome back.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, howdy, stranger!

'''BUBS:''' Stranger? I'm Bubs, remember?

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{unimpressed}'' Uh, I know. It's a joke.

'''BUBS:''' That's hilarious! How was your vacation?

'''MARZIPAN:''' It was toot sweet! I took the Cool Tapes on a midwestern tour ''{the tour map pops up}'' of bead shops and topiary gardens.

''{Cut to a topiary garden; Marzipan, Strong Mad and The Cheat are playing in the band}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}''
:Cool tapes are cool, and we're better than ever,
:Cool tapes are cool, 'cause we're light as a feather.
:Keep it down with that real cool flavor,
:Me and The Cheat and our bass player.
:Rockin' the spot.
:Yeah, we're rockin' the spot.

''{Marzipan appears behind a topiary tree shaped like William Shakespeare.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Grapes, y'all! And don't forget we've got cool 7-inches for sale over at our merch table.

''{Cut to the merchandise table. Homsar is standing on it, it has a sign reading "Merch Masala" and another reading "Steven Inches $[[Pi|π]]"}''

'''HOMSAR:''' I'm a little light in the leftovers!

''{Homsar's hat flies off the left of the screen, then returns from the right and hits him on the head before settling back into its original position. Cut back to Bubs and Marzipan at the coffee table.}''

'''BUBS:''' I bet you drove the shapèd plants wild.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah, they were way into it. So what did you do?

'''BUBS:''' I drove my baloney sandwich truck down to the beach.

''{Cut to the tropical island. Bubs's "Baloney Sammich Truck", which resembles an ice-cream truck, doesn't quite fit, and the rear wheels are in the water.}''

'''BUBS:''' BAH-loh-NEH!!! Come on, people! Come on, palm tree! I'm-tryingtosellabaloneysammich!

''{An Atari seagull squawks and flies past.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{angrily to Atari seagull}'' You shut your face!

''{Cut back to the coffee table.}''

'''BUBS:''' I sold exactly zero baloney sandwiches!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, that's great!

'''BUBS:''' Yeah, it was pretty much my best summer ever.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walks in}'' Same here. I spent two glorious weeks at Gluten Camp. I learned more about this oft-misunderstood plant protein than I ever thought possible.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' What''eva!'' ''{puts a time card in the time clock}'' I was across the lake at Glutton Camp. And we challenged those pansies to an obstacle course!

''{Cut to the obstacle course, pan across to see Strong Sad and the King of Town stuck in two tire swings.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, should we call it a draw?

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Hecks, no! I got stuck in here 10 minutes before you!

''{Pan across to Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Let's go, Glorten Camp! Glorten Camp is pain and scranin' on yous!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Oh yeah?

''{cut back to the coffee table}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well while you slo-mos were slounching around on your haunchy laurels, I was checking the most amazing email of my career!

''{Cut through static to Strong Bad, holding the Lappy, on a plane. Screen markers and a recording light are visible, as though viewed through a camcorder. Strong Bad leans in and adjusts the focus.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, Lappy, when I mash record on that camera, we're gonna perform the world's first death-defying midair SBEmail check! We'll make the cover of all the latest blogs! Now, are you psyched?! I'm psyched, are you psyched?!? OK, 3! 2! 1!

''{Strong Bad leans in and presses a button on the camera. Cut through static to Strong Bad standing on the ground. The camera drops to the ground and slowly falls over.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, the believing is hard to be doing, because that was so incredible! We met so many celebrities in midair! And the part with the narwhale ''{sic}'' was ''so'' illegal.

''{Cut through static to Strong Bad, back at the coffee table}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, cuh-rap! What am I, your dad? I can't believe I pulled the old "mash Stop when you think you're mashing Record and mash Record when you think you're mashing Stop" routine on myself.

'''MARZIPAN:''' But if we've all been on vacation, who's been taking care of the website?

''{Homestar Runner walks in, tired, wearing a dressing gown, a nightcap and Nebulon slippers, with a cinnamon 5 o'clock shadow.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{yawns}'' What's up, my brothers? Let no one say the Homestar Runner don't know how to nap. What is it, like mid-May or something?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, try "early July."

''{Zoom in.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aah! I slept through June!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yup.

''{Zoom in even tighter.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aah-! -gatha Christie would never sleep through June... neither would Angela Lansbury.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aren't they the same person?

'''BUBS:''' Yeah.

'''KING OF TOWN:''' Yep.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I think they are.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Yes, they definitely are.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, it's settled then. Now, what's this I hear about some of you guys sleeping through June? I'll let it slide this time, but June-sleepers will not be tolerated from this day henceforth. Now, whose turn was it to ''{rolls tongue}'' bring the doughnuts?

'''EVERYONE BUT HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yours!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, I'll let it slide this time, but dough-not rememberers will dough-not be tolerated from now on. All right, everybody, everybody. It's time to get this www-dot-show back on the road-dot-com. Now, places! Aaand...
[[Image:Weclome Back everybody.PNG|150px|right|"Everybody, everybody!"]]
''{Cut to everyone standing in regular clothes in front of a plain blue background. The words "everybody, everybody" appear in front of them, zooming and flashing. The music from the [[Intro]] page plays.}''

'''CHILDREN:''' Everybody, everybody! Everybody, everybody! Everybody, everybody! Everybody, everybody!
{{clear}}

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Freewheelinsteve.PNG|thumb|The Freewheelin' Eh, Steve]]
* In Homsar's scene, click on the "Steven Inches" sign to see a "The Freewheelin' Eh, Steve" album cover. On the bottom it lists the songs ''Sweet Cups and Cakes'' by Wheelchair Man, ''Eh, Steve's Dream'' by Eh, Steve!, and ''Talkin' Trying to Catch a Worm Blues'' by Fresh Juice.
* When the King of Town first appears, click on his crown to see his "I'm with Glutton Camp" T-shirt.
* Click on the left "everybody" at the end of the toon to see what Pom Pom and The Poopsmith presumably did during their summer vacation.
:''{Pom Pom and the Poopsmith are both leaning on the palm tree on the deserted island. The Poopsmith is wearing Strong Bad's Dangeresque sunglasses, and Pom Pom is wearing Homestar's. After a few moments, a thought cloud appears and reveals that Pom Pom is thinking of a baloney sandwich. Another one appears shortly afterwards and shows that the Poopsmith is too.}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*This toon refers to the real-life vacation that [[The Brothers Chaps]] took in the late spring/early summer of 2006, during which time the site went nearly seven weeks (48 days) without a major update, the longest hiatus on record. There were various minor updates during this period, but no toons.
*"Toot sweet" is a play on the French phrase ''"tout de suite"'' (which translates to "immediately" or "at once"). Both phrases are pronounced roughly the same.
*The Baloney Truck is a spoof on the [[wikipedia:Ice_cream_truck|Ice Cream Truck/Van]], which is popular in some parts of the world.

===Trivia===
[[Image:Cool tapes tour.png|thumb|300px|Cool Tapes' June 2006 tour]]
*The time card reads:
{| style="border-collapse: collapse; text-align: center; font-face: monospace"
|- style="border: 3px solid #F9C; font: bold 100% sans-serif"
! style="width: 5em" | IN: !! style="width: 5em" | OUT:
|- style="border: 3px solid #F9C"
| style="border-right: 10px double #F9C " |   ||  
|- style="border: 3px solid #F9C"
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|- style="border: 3px solid #F9C"
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|- style="border: 3px solid #F9C"
| style="border-right: 10px double #F9C " | 8:03 || 5:54
|- style="border: 3px solid #F9C"
| style="border-right: 10px double #F9C " | 7:45 || 6:21
|- style="border: 3px solid #F9C"
| style="border-right: 10px double #F9C " | 9:21 || 6:03
|- style="border: 3px solid #F9C"
| style="border-right: 10px double #F9C " | 12:02 || 5:58
|- style="border: 3px solid #F9C"
| style="border-right: 10px double #F9C " | 7:56 || 6:23
|- style="border: 3px solid #F9C"
| style="border-right: 10px double #F9C " | 8:03 || 5:54
|- style="border: 3px solid #F9C"
| style="border-right: 10px double #F9C " | 7:45 || 6:21
|}
*The [[Cool Tapes]] tour goes through East Westerburg, Beadsburg, Bead Store City, Sculpted Busheston, New Beadshop, Topiarianapolis, Beeeeeds, and Tope Gardens. Other towns on the map are Northtime, Pantsburg, Shoigut, Thuxtable, and The Slickster.
*There are trees in the topiary garden shaped as an ice-cream cone, [[Trogdor]], a tree stump, and [[Wikipedia:William Shakespeare|William Shakespeare]].
*According to the sign on the side of Bubs's [[Baloney Sammich Truck]], he's selling:
**"Gumball Surprise"– A baloney sandwich with a purple gumball on top.
**"Open Smiley Face"– An open baloney sandwich with a smiley face drawn on it in mustard.
**"I Heart Baloney"– A baloney sandwich with heart-shaped bread.
**"Dog Food"– A baloney sandwich with bone-shaped bread.
**"It's Not a Real Popsicle" – A baloney sandwich with popsicle-shaped bread.
**"Inside Out"– A piece of bread between two slices of baloney.
*In the DVD commentary on Strong Bad Email [[island]], Matt said they should use the island again. In addition to this cartoon, they already reused it in [[disconnected]].

===Remarks===
*[[Wikipedia:Agatha Christie|Agatha Christie]] and [[Wikipedia:Angela Lansbury|Angela Lansbury]] are not, in fact, the same person. Christie was a crime fiction author, and Lansbury is an actress famous for ''playing'' a crime fiction author on ''[[Wikipedia:Murder, She Wrote|Murder, She Wrote]]''. Lansbury however ''did'' play Christie's fictional sleuth [[Wikipedia:Miss Marple|Miss Marple]] in the movie adaptation of Christie's ''[[Wikipedia:The Mirror Crack'd|The Mirror Crack'd]]''.
*The spelling ''narwhale'' and Strong Bad's pronunciation of it are accepted variants; the more common spelling is ''narwhal''.
*When we see the back of the Lappy, it has none of the connection ports from [[isp]], but it is possible that Strong Bad's glove may be covering them.
*When Cool Tapes plays in the Topiary Garden, no amplifiers are present. Yet, when it closes up on Marzipan in the following shot, two "Marzipan" amplifiers are present behind her.

===Glitches===
*When Marzipan's angry expression is used, blinking causes her outline to be intruded.

===Inside References===
* [[Pants]]burg is one of the [[Strong Bad's Vacation Spots|places Strong Bad visited]] on his [[vacation]], and one of the places in [[Limozeen]]'s [[Limozeen#Zeenin' Across the Country 2001|Zeenin' Across the Country tour]].
* Strong Bad's line, "I can't believe I pulled the 'Mash stop when you think you're mashing record, and mash record when you think you're mashing stop' on myself", is a reference to [[Mashing Go|mashing go/play on something]]
* The Atari seagull first appeared in [[huttah!]] and [[take-a-break.exe]].
* Marzipan's [[Cool Tapes]] band comes from [[Cool Things]].
**Marzipan's remark, "Grapes, y'all!", is a reference to the bag of four grapes that appeared in the original lyrics.
* The toon's title contains the word [[Unusual Greetings#Weclome|Weclome]].
* Bubs pronounces "shaped plants" the same way Strong Bad and Teenage Homestar pronounced "striped pants" in [[highschool]].
* One of the places the Cool Tapes band visits is East Westerburg. Westerberg (spelled slightly differently) was visited in [[Thy Dungeonman 3]], and it was to the east of the player's starting location.
* The Poopsmith is wearing what appears to be [[Strong Bad]]'s [[Dangeresque]] sunglasses, and Pom Pom is wearing [[Dangeresque Too]]'s sunglasses.
* In addition to the two ropes attaching the tire swings to the tree at the obstacle course, a third rope hangs from the sky and sways gently, as did the rope featured in [[A Folky Tale]].
* The "Gumball Surprise" is another example of a [[Concoctions|concoction]].
* Homestar's sleeping through June is similar to how he slept through most of Decemberween in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]].
* The Eh! Steve song "Sweet Cups and Cakes" refers to [[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]], from which he originated.
* "Fresh Juice" (from the Eh! Steve album) is one of the suggested death metal lyrics from the worksheet in [[death metal]].
* Homestar is wearing [[Cinnamon|cinnamon]] on his face, and his slippers resemble [[Nebulon]], who first appeared on [[Main Page 1]].
* Marzipan's comment, "Who's been watching the website?" is an example of [[Fourth Wall Breaks|breaking the fourth wall]].

===Real-World References===
*The city "The Slickster" (as seen on the Cool Tapes tour map) is a reference to former [[Wikipedia:World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]] manager [[Wikipedia:Ken Johnson (wrestling)|Ken Johnson]], whose ring name was Slick and often called "The Slickster" by the commentators.
*The city of "Thuxtable" is a reference to Theo Huxtable, a character on [[Wikipedia:The Cosby Show|The Cosby Show]]. Theo Huxtable was previously referenced in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]], when Coach Z dressed up like him.
*The city of "East Westerburg" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:The_Replacements|Replacements]] frontman [[Wikipedia:Paul_Westerburg|Paul Westerbrug]]
*The design of the Cool Tapes Marzipan amps is based on the design of the classic Marshall amp. It was previously seen in [[different town]].
*The page title references the theme song from the sitcom ''[[Wikipedia:Welcome Back, Kotter|Welcome Back, Kotter]]'' ("Welcome back / Your dreams were your ticket out...").
*Athletic competitions between summer camps occupying the same campground are common in family movies and cartoons. Some examples include the movies ''[[Wikipedia:Heavyweights|Heavyweights]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Meatballs (film)|Meatballs]]''.
*The "Freewheelin' Eh! Steve" album cover is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Bob Dylan|Bob Dylan's]] early album, ''[[Wikipedia:The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan|The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan]]''. In addition, "Eh! Steve's Dream" is a reference to the Dylan song ''Bob Dylan's Dream'' and "Talkin' Trying to Catch a Worm Blues" refers to Dylan's song ''Talkin' World War III Blues''.
*Homestar's green ribcage [[Homestar Runner's Sleepwear|shirt]] is a reference to the movie ''[[Wikipedia:This Is Spinal Tap|This Is Spinal Tap]]'', in which [[Wikipedia:Nigel Tufnel|Nigel Tufnel]] wears the same shirt and later remarks "This is what I sleep in sometimes".
**The Eh! Steve song "Sweet Cups and Cakes" is likely a ''This Is Spinal Tap'' reference as well, since "Cups and Cakes" is the name of a Spinal Tap song.
*Strong Mad's violin styled bass bears a resemblance to the [[Wikipedia:Hofner|Hofner]] bass played by [[Wikipedia:Paul McCartney|Paul McCartney]]. However, Strong Mad plays right handed, while Paul is left-handed.
*Strong Bad's Narwhal reference is a reference to the popular Internet game [http://www.spinnerdisc.com/narwhaldiving.html Narwhal Diving] at the website [http://www.spinnerdisc.com Spinnerdisc.com].
*The sign on the merchandise table that reads "Merch Masala" refers to the 1985 Hindi movie [[Wikipedia:Mirch Masala|Mirch Masala]]. Mirch Masala is also the name of an Indian restaurant in Decatur, Georgia.
*Strong Sad's "I'm with gluten camp" T-shirt is a play on the popular [[Wikipedia:1980s|'80s]] "I'm with stupid" T-shirts.
*[[Wikipedia:Gluten|Gluten]] is a protein that makes up 80% of the protein in wheat.
*Marzipan almost smashing [[Carol]] in the "Cool Tapes" scene is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Pete Townshend|Pete Townshend]]'s habit of smashing his guitars onstage.
*The "Marzipan" amplifiers bear a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:Marshall Amplification|Marshall Amps]], a famous brand of guitar amp that became synonymous with heavy metal and rock bands.

==External Links==
*[[HR:weclomeback.html|watch "Weclome Back"]]
*[[HR:weclomeback.swf|view the Flash file for "Weclome Back"]]
*[[Forum:8992|forum thread re: "Weclome Back"]]

[[Category:Toons]]

Secret Collect.

Rogue Leader — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 03:36:52 GMT

Rogue Leader: Reverted. Flash Artifact

{{gamenav|New Game|sbcollect|RhinoFeeder|Stinkoman 20X6}}

[[Image:secretcollect.PNG|thumb|220px|Those other squares SERIOUSLY look nothing like you!]]
[[Image:secretcollectbox.PNG|thumb|220px|Secret Collect boxart]]

''"The greatest secrets man has ever known have been scattered all over the globe and its your job to find them."'' —[[Videlectrix]]


'''Secret Collect''' is a low-quality graphic adventure game. Accessible from the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] and "[[video games]]," this game has you, The Red Dot {{Film|Strong Bad}}, as you try to collect other squares (aka Things That Look Nothing Like Strong Bad). Use the arrow keys to move.

Yellow squares take you to the next level. Blue squares speed you up slightly.

'''Date:''' January 12, 2004

'''Page Title:''' Secret Collect featuring a Strong Bad!

==Fun Facts==
===Remarks===
*On all packaging, both in the email "video games" and the Videlectrix website, the game's name has a period at the end. "Secret Collect.", rather than "Secret Collect".
*The animated zapping bars are an imitation of "color cycling" or "[[wikipedia:Palette-shifting|palette shifting]]" - a process where the color palette used by an image is changed in a way that makes it look like the image is moving, even though it is unchanged. This trick was often used in early games, as it required less memory or processor power compared to storing an animation as several images.
*On the "Click to start" screen, the color of the entire screen changes every few seconds, imitating the initial screens of older Atari 2600 games and the screen saver built into Atari 8-bit computers like the [[wikipedia:Atari_800XL|800XL]].
*On or around 14 Jul 2005, the game was changed. The change wasn't mentioned on the main page.
**Extra levels 11-14 were added to the game.
**The diagonal parts of the "Y" in Level 10 were changed to short jagged vertical stripes.
**A glitch was removed where you could click at any time and you would be returned to the first level.
**Some glitches were removed where in level 5, you could go through one of the green walls. In level 9, you could walk through the wall directly beneath you for a huge shortcut. In level 10 you could walk into the center of the "A".
*On or around Sunday 16 Oct 2005, the game was changed again, again not mentioned on the main page.
**Levels 15 and 16 were added.
**You now start on level 15 (presumably for debugging purposes - levels 1-14 still exist in the game).
**A glitch was fixed where, once the final level started repeating itself, you had an infinite number of lives.
**A glitch was fixed where the counter for the level was too narrow, so some of the wider numbers were trimmed, and on levels after level 10 you could only see the "1".
*You can only collect 4 blue squares in the entire game - collecting a blue square in one level will make one disappear in later levels, and after collecting 4, no later levels will have blue squares. Thus there is strategy involved choosing when to collect the blue squares.
*When you finish the final level (currently level 16), that level repeats endlessly.

*The score is drawn in a normal serif font instead of the pixelated font used everywhere else.

== External Links ==
*Play [[HR:sbcollect.html|Secret Collect]]
*Play the Flash file for [[HR:atarigame2.swf|Secret Collect]]
{{VidelectrixGames}}
[[Category: Videlectrix Games]]

theme song

Rogue Leader — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 03:28:02 GMT

Rogue Leader: Took the fact out. There are countless theme songs like that

{{aboutemail}}{{forshort|Theme Song Video}}
{{sbenav|155|keep cool|some kinda robot}}
[[Image:sbemail155.png|thumb|The email-checkinest guy in the land]]

Strong Bad explains why his email show doesn't have an official theme song.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Trogdor}}, {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, [[Balding Man]], {{Film|Fightgar}}, {{Film|Reynold}}, [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Powered by The Cheat Strong Mad|Powered by The Cheat Strong Mad]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Club Technochocolate]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Outer Space]], [[Alleyway]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Desert]].

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' August 7, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:57

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' When email comes to town, you know, you know, it's like a rainstorm... in your browser. ''{brings up the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: theme song</div>
Dear Super Bad, 
It bugs me how your email show doesn't have a theme song. 
If it did have a theme song, your show would be a whole 
lot cooler. 
Jonathan Shaheen 
Ontario, Canada
</blockquote>

''{He pronouces "Shaheen" as "Shaheeeeen", and lens flares and a sound effect appear over the name. He pronounces the location as "on-ta-REE-oh, cah-nah-DAH" (as though with a Mexican accent)}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh, a little south of the border flavor. ''{typing}'' Dear Supper Bag, It bugs ''me'' how your face doesn't have a not tons of acne. If it did have a not tons of acne, ''you'' would be a whole lot cooler.

''{Strong Bad clears the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Look, you don't know what you're talking about, Shaheen ''{Strong Bad pronounces "Shaheen" as "Shaheeeen", and the Shaheen special effect appears over the word}''  Theme songs are just an excuse for showmakers to make less show. I'm sure viewership would triple if I had one of those crappy cartoon theme songs that bludgeons you over the head with the blunt end of the show's premise.

''{Theme song music fades in over his last words. Cut to a smiling Strong Bad prancing in the basement.}''

'''CRAPPY CARTOON THEME SONG:''' ''{singing}'' 
Strong Bad is a wrestle man, 
He's the email-checkinest guy in the land. 
He checks real emails from the net, 
He's got two brothers and The Cheat, his pet. The Cheat, his Pet! 

''{"STRONG BAD" appears on the screen as the name is sung. Strong Bad types with boxing gloves on. Lappy flies into the screen, showing an email from punkkid87.}''

<blockquote class="lappy email" style="background-image:none">
Dear Strong Bad, 
I love your Tragdor! 
Draw him AGAIN!!! 
-punkkid87
</blockquote>

''{Strong Mad and Strong Sad dance in the disco as they are announced. The Cheat slides into the screen and gets a close-up.}''

There's nobody dumber than Homestar Runner, 
On ''The Strong Bad Email Show''!

''{Homestar Runner breaks through the computer desk and bites into a sandwich of light bulbs. He has large cartoon teeth. The title of the Strong Bad show appears with Strong Bad's smiling face in front of a pink heart design.}''

''{The music ends. Cut back to Strong Bad sitting in front of the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And the ratings have gone through the roof. And let's not forget the life-affirming pop-ballad type theme song. Probably sung by some variety of Neville.

''{Fade to a scene with an empty computer desk. The title "the Strong Bad Email Show" flies into the screen. There are flowers on the desk and pictures of The Cheat, Strong Mad and Strong Bad on the wall. The characters are introduced with their pictures flying through the screen and their names appearing on the screen. Strong Bad shows a shadow Trogdor to The Cheat.}''

'''POP BALLAD-TYPE THEME SONG''' ''{singing}'' 
You and me babe, livin' for dreams. 
Life is for love, drinkin' for free. 
Sitting on top of an old robot, sharing and caring it out. 
Memory struggling ...

''{The music fades out and a clip montage starts, as Strong Bad's voiceover begins. Strong Bad is shown drinking a mix of coffee and a "COLDSON Lite" from a novelty drinking hat; he floats through space; he looks up from typing on his laptop, and then throws a stack of paper in the air.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And of course the best clips they show are from the un-aired pilot that you'll never see.

'''POP BALLAD-TYPE THEME SONG''' ''{singing}'' 
Memory struggling you down! ''{fade out}''

''{The final shot shows Strong Bad in a tank before the clip montage fades out to "created by Lem Sportsinterviews".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And just when you think you finally get to start watching some of the actual show, now you get to watch a commercial!

''{Cut to real-life hands holding coins and peanuts. "$BUTT" is stamped on the screen, and then a Cakkalate brand calculator displays "BUTT X 2". Cut to the CGNU online e-niversity: "website Coming Soon(ish)". A set of college flags is shown, and then a hand clicking a mouse button demonstrates how easy it is to get degrees.}''

'''COMMERCIAL GUY 1:''' ''{voiceover}'' Do you make butt at your current job? Do you want to make twice butt? A shady online degree is just four clicks away at CGNU online e-niversity. Most colleges take four years to complete. At CGNU, one year equals one click.

''{Cut to Senor Cardgage in front of some boxes. His degrees are displayed on the screen as he moves his hand down.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' I got fourteen degrees while on my lunch take. Now I can legally prescribe marriages in the state of Kansattica.

'''COMMERCIAL GUY 1:''' ''{voiceover}'' Enroll now, and join the e-niversity e-volution e-day. Uh, well, today. That last one didn't quite work out.

''{The slogan is displayed over an "(On)line CGNU e-NIVERSITY" medal, as the commercial guy #1 says it.}''

''{Cut to a Powered By The Cheat-style intertitle showing Strong Bad chasing his laptop.}''

'''ANNOUNCER 1:''' ''{voiceover}'' We'll be right back with more ''Strong Bad Emails''.

''{Cut to balding man standing in front of a newspaper background.}''

'''COMMERCIAL GUY 2:''' ''{voiceover}'' Do you wanna cut your own arm off?

'''BALDING MAN:''' Huuuuaaaahuuuh...

''{Cut back to Strong Bad typing on his computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Now, don't worry. Just in case you were hoping to get gipped out of another minute of actual show, you get to hear the jazzy instrumental version over the end credits!

''{Cut to Strong Bad talking into a microphone in front of Bubs' concession stand at night. End credits are shown over the scene.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And on the off-chance that you actually wanted to hear the theme song... we've taken care of that, too.

''{A program preview moves into the screen and squeezes the Strong Bad Email Show end credits into the left third of the screen. As the announcer announces ''Three is 4 Tonite'', the logo and the faces of the four main characters are shown. The graphics for the ''Cheat Commandos'' show Reynold being taped to a rocket and Fightgar checking the tape.}''

'''ANNOUNCER 2:''' ''{voiceover}'' Coming up later on ''Three is 4 Tonite'': join Mandy, Brandy, Andy, and Scurge, as they learn how to give a care. But first: they're tiny, they're toony, they're ''all'' a little loony. It's the Cheat Commandos.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' You see, Shaheen? ''{The Shaheen special effect appears}'' You're basically asking me to dedicate 2 minutes of my 3 to 5 minute email show, to what is essentially a commercial for something you're already watching! And besides, I give you people a new sbemail song every freakin' week. Allow me to leave you with the old standard 'When Email Comes to Town, You Know, You Know, It's Like a Rainstorm... In Your Browser.' ''{stops typing and starts singing}'' When email comes to town, you know, you know, it's like a rainstorm... in your browser.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

''{Funky theme song music is played, while the Powered by The Cheat show preview squeezes into the screen.}''

'''ANNOUNCER 3:''' ''{voiceover}'' ''{chuckles}'' Next up on ''Powered By The Cheat'': Strong Mad gets his own talk show. And his first guest is hilarity!

''{Powered by The Cheat Strong Mad sits behind a late night talk show host desk in front of a skyline, and the guest with a The Cheat face with glasses jumps up from his seat and bounces in front of the camera.}''

==Easter Egg==
* Click on the talk show guest's [[The Cheat's Gold Tooth|gold tooth]] at the end of the email to see the Shaheen special effect.

==Fun Facts==
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===Explanations===
*"Ad valorem" is a Latin phrase meaning "according to an object's value."
*In the final credits, the credits for "Best Grip" and "Key Boy" are reversed versions of standard film credits [[Wikipedia:Best Boy|best boy]] and [[Wikipedia:Key Grip|key grip]].

===Trivia===
*This is the first time we see Homestar's teeth.
*This is another email in which we can see [[Strong Mad Smiling]], this time in the background of the second theme song.
*The floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#california_games|california games]]".
*The navigation buttons in the web browser showing the CGNU online e-niversity read, from left to right:
**This way
**That way
**No way
**A dog
*The college pennants (read clockwise from the top) are:
**I Love Most Colleges! (White against a blue background)
**Shower (White against an orange background with a baseballcap next to the text)
**Biscuit Gravy University (White against a purple background with a biscuit outlined by lavender in the background)
**TWO STRIPS!! (Brown against a yellow background with two strips of bacon beneath the text)
**FROGS!! (White on green with a white frog outlined to the left of the text)
**Homestar's Knees Tech (Pale yellow against a maroon background)
**STATE U (Black outlined white against a red background)
[[Image:CGNU_degrees.png|thumb|right|300px|Senor Cardgage's CGNU online diplomas]]
*The degrees available from CGNU online e-niversity (or at least the ones Senor Cardgage earned on his "lunch take") are:
**Business Administration
**Business Abomination
**Mousepad Engineer
**Infotainment Technology
**e-Cutting Ones
**The Lighter Side of Sports
**[[Matt Chapman|Matt]]'s Communications
**Business Wheeling
**Insider Trading
**Computer Graphs
**Bidness Dealing
**Caps Lock Technician
**Escrow Understandment
**Marriage Apothecary
*The credits in the middle of the email read:
**co-created by strong bad and [[Cherry Greg|cherry greg]]
**based upon the comedy stylings of [[Lil' Strong Bad|little strong bad]]
**teleplay by Sir [[Dolph Hauldhagen]]
**theme song by a Neville of some sort
**closing theme song by a Marsalis or two
**this has been a [[Cheap as Free|cheap as free]] production
*The credits at the end of the email read:
**Written by Geoff Rondleman
**Directed by Hot Tub T
**Produced by [[A. Chimendez]]
**Key Boy Tim "Timmers" Ballthrow
**Best Grip Not [[Lem Sportsinterviews]]
**Playa Hata [[Wikipedia:Stuart Scott|Stu Scott]]
**Script Supervisor Sid Hoffrenchman
**This show was filmed in front of a live studio audience.
**Soundtrack available as Cheap as Free Records
*The website for CGNU (http://www.cgnuonline-eniversity.edu/) does not exist, as only actual educational institutions can register .edu addresses. However, a fan has registered http://www.cgnuonline-eniversity.com/, and recreated the page seen in the email; the list of degrees can be found by clicking on the exclamation point after "website Coming Soon(ish)"

===Remarks===
*"BUTT X 2" is the display on the calculator held upside down. It is not possible for most calculators to display "U" and "T" upside down (the typed numbers would have to be similar to a lowercase "N" and two "L"s back to back).
*"We'll be right back with more Strong Bad Email" is most likely voiced by [[Missy Palmer]], as it bears a resemblance to [[Marzipan]]'s voice.
*During the Crappy Cartoon theme song, the "Trogdor" email on the Lappy is displayed with the font from the [[Compy 386]], instead of the Lappy's current font.

===Goofs===
[[Image:SBETheme Song Goof.PNG|thumb|Mouthless...]]
[[Image:Sbscreen.PNG|thumb|Hilarity!]]

*There is no punctuation mark after Strong Bad types "Shaheen!" for the first time.
*During the scene in the end credits with Strong Bad telling jokes, his mouth disappears for one frame.

===Glitches===
*Strong Bad's head pokes into the Powered By The Cheat preview when the preview squeezes into the screen.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad walks next to a wall with a pattern similar to [[Strong Bad's Basement|his basement]].
*Once again, Strong Bad is called a [[Wrestleman]].
*In the theme song we see a close-up on how Strong Bad [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|types with boxing gloves]].
*The email shown in the first theme song asks Strong Bad to draw [[Trogdor]] again – one of the [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006#Pre-animation Process - 4:05 p.m.|commonly sent emails that will not be answered]].
*The name of the email author who wants Strong Bad to draw Trogdor refers to the year [[1987]].
*Homestar Runner was first obsessed with light bulbs in [[long pants]].
*The flowers in the pot in the second theme song are from [[Summer Short Shorts]].
*Strong Bad is drinking [[Cold One#Coldson Lite|Coldson Lite]] from his hat.
*The email show is produced by [[Levert Burtmore]].
*The tank has the [[Strong Badia]] emblem on it.
*"BUTT X 2" is shown on a [[Cakkalate]]-brand calculator, which was introduced in [[technology]].
*[[Crazy Go Nuts University]] is offering online degrees.
*"Homestar's Knees Tech" is mentioned in [[mascot]].
*One of the courses Senor Cardgage took was "e-Cutting Ones" – "Cutting Ones" was offered in [[CGNU]].
*"Escrow" is one of the services offered by [[Senor Cardgage Mort-gage]].
*The Balding Man is in the same scene as he was in [[Senor Mortgage]].
*According to the credits, "The Strong Bad Email Show" is based on the comedy [[Style|stylings]] of Little Strong Bad, a reference to [[stand-up]].
*The teleplay was written by Sir [[Dolph Hauldhagen]], from [[other days]].
*According to the final end credits, the show was written by Geoff [[Unseen Characters#Mentioned|Rondleman]], previously mentioned in [[Biz Cas Fri 1]].
*It was directed by "[[Hot Tub]] T", a character in [[dangeresque 3|Dangeresque 1: Dangeresque, Too?]].
*The script supervisor was "Sid Hoffrenchman", a reference to [[Homestar's "Sid" Game]] in [[date]].
*Strong Mad's having his own show was previously suggested in [[the facts]].
**Also referenced in this email from [[the facts]] is the "We'll Be Right Back..." card, but with Strong Bad instead of Homestar.
*The "[[Strong Badia Action Cool News 5|Number Five Action Cool]]" logo, in the lower right hand corner at the end of the email, and the "Incredibly Local News", are references to [[local news]].

===Real-World References===
*"Theme songs are just an excuse for showmakers to make less show" is exemplified with how [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]]' producers can make the theme song longer or shorter depending on the length of the show.
*The heart sign shown at the end of the 1st theme song is very similar to the same one found at the end of each episode of [[Wikipedia:The Powerpuff Girls|The Powerpuff Girls]] Cartoon.
* "They're tiny, they're toony, they're all a little loony" is a paraphrase of the first line of the theme song to [[Wikipedia:Tiny Toon Adventures|Tiny Toon Adventures]].
* In the second theme song, there are several successive references to late-'80s television shows:
** The succession of picture frames was a common element of several shows.
** The lyrics closely resemble the second verse from [http://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/growingpainslyrics.html the theme song] from ''[[Wikipedia:Growing_Pains|Growing Pains]]''.
** "The Cheat Baxter-Birney" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Meredith Baxter|Meredith Baxter]] (formerly Meredith Baxter Birney, from ''[[Wikipedia:Family Ties|Family Ties]]'').
** The font and style of "created by Lem Sportsinterviews" (yellow [[Wikipedia:Cooper Black|Cooper Black]] letters on a completely black background) is a reference to the closing credits of ''[[Wikipedia:Cheers|Cheers]]''.
*Strong Bad in front of the brick wall in the closing credits, as well as the credit "based on the comedy stylings of Little Strong Bad", refers to Jerry Seinfeld's ending stand-up comedy segment of episodes of ''[[Wikipedia:Seinfeld|Seinfeld]]''.
* "Probably sung by some variety of Neville" refers to [[Wikipedia:The Neville Brothers|The Neville Brothers]], a group of soul singers. The most famous Neville brother, [[Wikipedia:Aaron Neville|Aaron Neville]], has a distinctive vibrato that has inspired many parodies throughout pop culture.
* "Closing theme song by a Marsalis or two" refers to the [[Wikipedia:Marsalis|Marsalis]] family of jazz musicians.
* [http://www.tvimedia.com/1_lss.htm The Lighter Side of Sports], a long-running, syndicated TV show, is one of Senor Cardgage's degrees.
* The line "Do you want to cut your own arm off?" may refer to an Adjustable Rate Mortgage or A.R.M.
* The CGNU e-Niveristy commercial is a parody of online colleges.
* The style of the web browser used in the CGNU e-Niveristy strongly resembles [[Wikipedia:Internet_Explorer_for_Mac|Internet Explorer for Macintosh]].
* Stuart Scott, mentioned in the end credits, is a reporter for ESPN. "Playa hata", his title, refers to one of his oft-used phrases on air.

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