== 404'd ==

I still don't think it's notable that for a couple of minutes the page was 404'd even though the update was up... this happens a lot, like nearly every week. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:The page still isn't up. Just the Flash file. I know I don't edit here much anymore, but that seems notable to me. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::It's, uh...still doin' the 404'd thing. Maybe they were just both really tired and fell asleep having forgotten to make the link work? This has definitely been more than an hour, and I dunno about what's happened in the past, but...this might be worth a looksee. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 13:26, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

:::Yeah, it's about 2pm now, and I'm STILL getting the 404'd message. I cleared my cache, too. Help? --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:19, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

== Questionable Surgeon ==

His voice matches the announcer's voice from [[business trip]] and [[nightlife]], doesn't it? He ''does'' go, "Mmmmmm" and "Yes, that's right" in the same fashion. Would that go under remarks or inside references? --[[User:66.82.9.58|66.82.9.58]] 13:46, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

:Am I the only user who's taking notice of this bit of information? It's under the discussion page because other users might disagree with that fact when they see it in the article and immediately remove it. --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 20:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

::Yeah, I'd say it's worth a mention in inside references, as long as you give each one a second listen and make sure it's exactly the same. [[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 21:04, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

== Surgery. ==

Is this a new running gag? I could have sworn I heard something long ago about Marzipan having sugery done...[[unsigned|67.161.122.193|14:40, 25 February 2008]]
:Other instances I found include [[looking old|Strong Bad's lace-lift]] and [[Date Nite|The Cheat getting declawed]], but nothing about Marzipan's surgery. It fits that rule about 3 appearances, but I don't know if these are unusual enough appearances for an article. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

==Surgery Photo==

When I first played it, the photo didn't pop up. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 17:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:What photo? Me neither. Is there a photo?
::Worked for me, my prediction is that we will see different version of Marzi surgeries in the sketchbook section later. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

== accent ==

Listen to Bub's voice... LiStEn To iT! You can here this in Happy Dethemberween too!! Was that here before?!?!
:What are you talking about? Do you hear something different from normal? Why don't you describe it so we know what you are talking about? Maybe someone can answer you when we know what the questoon is. P.S. I LiStEnEd To iT! and Happy Dethemberween too!! and I don't know what to listen for because you aren't saying what you're talking about.
::Same Here, and plus, Coach Z's voice was a little different than normal this time. --[[User:76.204.90.137|76.204.90.137]] 23:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:::well, he is making a sad attempt at talking like a gangsta, so that doesn't count. as for bubs, i dunno, maybe his voice is a little higher than it used to be, but i wouldn't bet money on it --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 03:27, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

== Unpluged Microphone ==
Hey, it's that guy named Ben from the Fanstuff Wiki. I think Coach Z's unpluged microphone is a refrence to unpluged phones. Yeah. And I bet the phone he was using was unpluged as well.

== Bubs's arms ==

Bubs's arms seem to be back to their old two different Flash pieces being animated separately. Is this notable? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 23:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:eh, stick it under "remarks" and we'll see how quickly it gets deleted --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 03:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

== Cheatanese ==

Is it unusual that Strong Bad had to translate The Cheat's prank call, when Marzipan's never had any trouble understanding The Cheat before (especially in [[Date Nite]]). In fact, this is really the first time anyone had to translate for the Cheat, isn't it? Other than [[cheat talk]], everyone usually seems to have no problem understanding him.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 00:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
: It COULD be the case that Strong Bad is the one on the phone and The Cheat is standing next to him telling him what to say... and then he grabs the phone away to gnaw on it... or he's gnawing on the phone itself rather than the receiver or something. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:36, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
It COULD be just some thing they did to be funny.
: Also remember that while marzipan can understand the cheat we can't.--[[User:Nogain|Nogain]] 12:28, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

== Ad-VER-tiss-ment? ==

It's probably not typical of the Chaps to make reference to Internet memes in H*R cartoons, but the Questionable Surgeon's pronunciation of "Ad-VER-tiss-ment" is oddly reminiscent of how the announcer says it in this YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-3qncy5Qfk (key line: "We interrupt this adVERtisment to BLOW YOUR MIND!") --[[User:96.225.193.131|96.225.193.131]] 00:38, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

It's actually fairly common that they do, even if the references are deleted by wiki users who refuse to acknowledge them...but isn't pronunciation of a common word pretty TTATO?--[[User:64.193.79.137|64.193.79.137]] 00:48, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

:Right. "Ad-VER-tis-ment", as dumb as it sounds, is actually a legit pronunciation of the word[http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=advertisement]. So no reference. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:56, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

::Technically, and the only reason I bring this up is because it's a common mistake that I and a lot of people have made, it's NOT [[TTATOT]], because there is no "that" or "other thing" that it might be referencing. It's just not a reference, like Matt said. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 02:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

:"Ad-VER-tis-ment" is the ''common'' pronunciation of the word here... I had to look it up in a dictionary and ask an American friend about it before I knew whether TBC actually pronouncing it differently than usual, or were just being random with the "I pronounced it" bit... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:42, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

== Coach Z unplugged ==

Is this too awkward to somehow combine or associate this instance into Coach Z's unplugged phone history? (There's already a page dedicated to Coach Z using unplugged telephones.)
:I'd be inclined to say this is unrelated. For now. Phone unconected = loser; mike unconnnected = lecher. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
::i don't even get that --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 03:32, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

:::I think it should be a reference. He DOES use a lot of unplugged things, so it fits with the gag. And I agree with Neumannz; that didn't make sense. :P --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 13:47, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 15.2

NevaDie — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:19:53 GMT

NevaDie: /* 404'd */

Talk:Sickly Sam's Big Outing

NevaDie — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:06:41 GMT

NevaDie: /* The Fort Wayne Locomotive's Music? */

== Why "Shaboigen"? ==

Why? I looked and I couldn't see anywhere where it was spelled as Shaboigen, and not the actual spelling of Cheboygan or Sheboygan, depending on which one you're talking about (most likely Cheboygan, because they're in the 20s and referring to bootlegging). --Tony from Cheboygan, MI

== "And the rest!" ==

I'm not going to add it to the page, but did anyone else think about [[The Robot (storybook)|The Robot]], [[Mr. Bland]], and [[Señor]] at "The Rest"? It's probably a reach, but the one in the middle IS robotic-looking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

No i think you are right that was the first thing i thought when i saw the toon. {{User:The-homsarrunner/sig}} 13:52 2008 Feb 11

The robot, I can see. The other two, not so much. One's an alien (Old Timey [[Nebulon]]?!), and the other looks like a peanut with a black eye or something. I don't see the connection. But that's just me.
--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The one on the right reminded me of Emmitt Nervend from Freakazoid. --DavidCatmull

Same thing here. DEFINATLY saw Emmitt Nervend. D: -[[User:Aranai|Aranai]] 16:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I kinda do think they're supposed to be Old Timey Robot, Bland, and Señor. That was my first thought when I saw them, and them not being in the actual toon fits in context the way Mr. Bland and Señor are often mentioned in passing as if they're main characters but they're really not. On the other hand, however, you have different fingers. And since we can't be sure, and since they weren't in the toon and are not likely to ever be in an Old Timey toon, I don't think it needs to be mentioned anywhere but on a talk page.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 00:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== "Dee = Ugly One?" ==

Is the cow that [[Sickly Sam]] ends up with the Old-Timey [[The Ugly One]]? I mean, she has quite similar specs and hair.--{{User:Kerny Mantis}} 09:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:yea and with the glasses maybe... but we should wait for another opinion because so far the only old timey characters have been the characters that live in Free Country USA so... it probaly isn't The Ugly One.

::Check the names of the the sender's friends in the email [[comics]] to see.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 21:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:::None of them are named Dee. The Ugly One is not from Free Country USA, the glasses were just popular in that era, and SHE'S A COW! So, no. No Ugly One.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 00:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== The Birds? ==

The Sneak being attacked by the seagulls reminded me of the Alfred Hitchcock movie ''The Birds''. Does anyone else think this is a reference?
--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 13:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Firehouse reference? ==

This is a bit obscure, but at the end of this cartoon, Sickly Sam says, "I've finally found the love of a lifetime." which could be in reference to a song of the same name from the hard rock band Firehouse (since the Brothers Chaps seem very knowledgable about hard rock bands from that era). Other similar references were "Kevin Dubrow" a Quiet Riot reference from The Bet email and "Here I go again on my own" a Whitesnake reference from the Mile email. Not to mention all the old guitarist pics they have up in their audio recording room (seen in Sample of Style).

== Horse or Cow? ==

I'm pretty sure Dee is a horse, not a cow. For one thing, she has no utter. Plus, a horse would make more sense at a glue factory. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 20:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
: You're right. Fixed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It's definitely a cow, udders or no udders. It's got the spots, the cow-ish face and the cow-ish tail. Besides, cows are used at a glue factory as well, not just horses. ({User:Kerny Mantis)} 21.02 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:I think the tail is one of the best bits of evidence for her being a horse. It's basically just a mass of hair, like a horse's tail. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Problems playing file? ==

Is it just me, or did they do something to break the file? There's no audio after the word "..program" in the intro?

== Why no Places ==

In the "Places" section on the wiki, why aren't there any listed? Also I would wonder if I could make the page called the [[Saw Mill]] where The Homestar Runner and Old-Timey Marzipan were being sawed by Old-Timey Strong Bad after Sickly Sam burned the film.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 21:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:They're not listed because no one's bothered to list them yet. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Alley ==

Is "Skid Row" the [[Old-Timey]] alley?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 22:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:It's possible! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Super Modern Telegram ==

As [[The Homestar Runner]] gets the telegram it say SUPER MODERN TELEGRAM and as he reads it it says HONEST TELEGRAM.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 23:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:Feel free to add that to the Remarks section. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Goofs? Really? ==

There are currently two goofs listed:<blockquote>
*When Old Timey Strong Bad jumps in on the boardwalk, Sickly Sam's hat disappears.
*The color of the end stripe on The Sneak's tail changes periodically throughout the toon.</blockquote>
Given the nature of this toon, I'm not sure we can count these as goofs. There are many purposefully introduced "goofs" in this toon. We should simply ignore it as we do with [[Powered by The Cheat]] "goofs".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

: I agree. Especially about the hat. [[User:Lelila|Lelila]] 07:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::Hmmm... that's true, TBC might have done that just because in those older films sometimes they would forget to keep prop continuity. Not sure though. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 20:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

== Foiled? ==

Are we sure that "Foiled again!" is from the Dudley Do-right segment? I mean, Dick Dastardly from the old CN cartoon Wacky Racers also uses that. And that's just one example...

== Dressed to the 5 3/4s? ==

Is this a play on the phrase "Dressed to the nines?" implying that Sickly Sam will only be dressed moderately better? If so, does this warrant an explanation?
:It sounds like a good idea. I'd never heard that expression before, and that phrase slightly confused me.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Live Action? ==

Should it be mentioned under Remarks that unlike previous Old-Timey cartoons, this one seems to be styled after live action TV shows, with props on strings and poorly edited outakes?--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 01:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
: The poor editing in Old-Timey cartoons has been seen before, but I do agree that it's unusual for there to be obvious sticks and props in what should be an ANIMATED show. Remark-worthy? Dunno. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:50, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's remark-worthy. Previous old-timey toons looked like they showed what actually happened back then, while this one clearly shows that it's all staged with scripts, acting, bad special effects and editing.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Fort Wayne Locomotive ==

Anyone else think his voice might be based on Art Carney (TV's Ed Norton, and the inspiration for Yogi Bear and Barney Rubble)?
: Someone apparently thought exactly that, as Ed Norton and Art Carney were previously mentioned before someone else removed it as "Dubious". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::I see it got re-added... maybe it's true, but wouldn't it be better to mention this on [[Fort Wayne Locomotive|his character page]] instead? It's not like we put "[[Bubs]]' voice sounds like Redd Foxx" in the RWRs of every toon *he* appears in... -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

==Five and 3/4==

Is that a reference to five and dime stores? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 05:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
: I don't think so. I think it was parodying the phrase "dressed to the nines." [[User:Lelila|Lelila]]

== Ribcage Stomach ==

It seems to be a reference to cartoons such as Tom and Jerry, as they would often use the ribcage as a stomach. Perhaps another 80s reference?
:Tom and Jerry predate the '80s by about 40 years.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 02:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

== Possible STUFF? ==

The line "We shan't get foiled again" is a possible old-timey reference to the 1971 song Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who. {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 15:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:No. Common phrase. Not clear reference. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:30, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Give Him the Business ==

When Strong Bad says that step one of the plan is to "give him the business", it reminded me of a couple of referree's description of personal foul penalties. Video clips of them can be found on YouTube, along with a reference from the new American Gladiators. Not sure if someone wants to include that in the Fun Facts, but I'd thought I'd mention it. {{unsigned|148.129.71.52|15:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)}}
:Giving the business is an oooooold expression. Watch just about any ''Leave It To Beaver'' episode to see that it was commonly used back in the late-50's. Here's an example:

<blockquote>
'''Wally:''' Boy, Beaver, wait'll the guys find out you were hanging around with a girl. They'll really give you the business. 
'''Beaver:''' But gee, Wally, you hang around with girls and the guys don't give you the business. 
'''Wally:''' Well, that's because I'm in high school. You can do a lot of stuff in high school without getting the business.
</blockquote>

:Whether or not it was in use much before then, I have no idea. But I do know that this is more likely to be a reference to something old than to something from this year, given that this is an old-timey cartoon. (BTW, I'm not claiming this is a reference to ''Leave It To Beaver'', I'm just making the point that it's an old expression.) {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Doorbell? ==

Do you think we should add something like this to the Trivia section?
Like, that says:

The cut during the telegram scene may be because doorbells haven't been invented yet.
:Or, more likely, The Homestar Runner messed up his lines and the editor was incompetent. (Plus doorbells were invented way before the 1930s.) {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== So... What happened to them? ==
What do you think happened to Old-Timey Homestar and Old-Timey Marzipan at the Saw Mill? I guess that Fat Dudley came to the rescue just in time, but that wasn't shown. I figured that would be possible for two reasons.

*1: Fat Dudley was mysteriously absent, and should have appeared at some point. This is less likely.
*2:The "Saw Mill" scene is an retro cartoon cliche, and a hero (in this case, Fat Dudley) would have most definetly come to the rescue just in time, as the cliche goes. This is very likely.

So, what do you think happened to them?
:I'm thing of a word. It begins with an "s". What is it? Oh yeah, it's speculation! No offense, but this is complete speculation. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 20:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Fact Consolidation? ==
This one is listed under "Explanations":
* Early 20th century films would be partially colorized in some parts of certain scenes for emphasis. This colorization would have to be done after the film was already made.
And this one is listed under "Remarks":
* The first color films appeared in the late 1920s, but experimental color films (which this resembles) with only part of the scene colorized or tinted, were done as early as first decade of the 20th century.
Shouldn't these two be connected together into a single fact?

== Hmmm? ==
I Just Saw That The Way Fort Wayne Locomotive Spells Trouble Is Like How Tigger Fromw That Show About That Bear Spells His Name :T-I-Double G-ger

What he means is that in Winnie-The-Pooh, Tigger spells his name T I Double-guh Er, and the Fort Wayne Locomotive does something like that.

That's more or less what it reminded me of, too. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 20:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

== Boo for Sickly Sam!? ==

They sound more like gasps or something like that to me. {{User:Mee/sig}} 21:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
: I'd thought something like that too but was never sure enough to tell. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:: Well, I wasn't sure what to call it, so I just went with "boos"... if you can think of a better description, go ahead and fix it... the reaction to SB's intro is definitely booing though. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

== Parcheesi ==

Do you s'pose that Sickly Sam eating a board game is some kind of reference to how Strong Sad's only friends were board games? Something kind of like that? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 20:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
:No, it's a bit of a stretch. And it's just a joke anyway ("Curses! All they've got in here is Parcheesi!"). {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

== The Fort Wayne Locomotive's Music? ==

Okay, that 8-bit style music that plays when TFWL runs away sounds like it could very well be from some NES game or something, especially since you can hear some beeps and stuff. Anyone more familiar with the NES era want to confirm or deny this? Because it wouldn't surprise me a bit. I mean, they've referenced NES tons of times before... --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
:I'm only an intermediate NES aficionado, but I don't recognize it. It sounds to me like it fits pretty well with the rest of the music in the toon.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 23:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure that's not old-timey toon music. Listen again. The background music stops when he says "A 1, and a 2..." and then when he runs off, it sounds like some sort of NES music--you know, beeps and whatnot. I wish I could remember. Was there a NES football game? Or something? --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 03:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

NevaDie — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:58:36 GMT

NevaDie: /* Fast Food Freestyle */

==Coach Z Doesn't Sound Like Himself==
Hey!!! did any of you notice that coach z doesnt sound like himself until the rap{{unsigned|67.170.119.144|0:45:18, 2007-11-13}}

:That because it was a powered by the cheat cartoon.{{unsigned|68.210.53.58|0:53:04, 2007-11-12}}
:The Cheat is doing the voices.{{unsigned|75.72.21.221|0:53:29, 2007-11-12}}
:That would be great... I mean [[Mike]]. He tends to do that for those [[Powered by The Cheat]] thingies. But perhaps it should be mentioned in the transcript when it's a PBTC voice and when it's Coach Z's voice. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 01:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::How should it be noted, however? It doesn't look like there is any precedent for dialog in a PBTC voice and then a musical piece with the regular voice. Should {PBTC} noted in front of each line, or note in the description? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd support putting "Powered by the Cheat" or something tothat effect in front of everyone's name until the song starts. The Cheat made an intro on his own, and then made a video to a previously recorded R-A-P S-O-N-G. That's my view of it, at least. [[User:132.161.138.10|132.161.138.10]] 20:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC) (I used to have an accoun, but I guess if you use it too infrequently it's DELETED? That's happened to me twice.)

==Dr. Dre Reference==
I'm glad to see the Dr. Dre "reference" was deleted. I'm sorry I spent the time adding links. Besides that it's a rap song (and rap songs are all alike, right?) I don't see the similarity. And I'm certainly not comfortable with the links because of the profanity in the Wikipedia articles. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:I'm unfamiliar with the song, so I have no clue if there's any hidden references to it in this toon. I removed it because... well, I think facts that say "there is a reference to whatever" without saying what, exactly, the reference *is*, are essentially useless. They more or less expect you to *know*, which not everyone does. -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Incorrect reference for Mix Tape==
I think the fun fact is grabbing the wrong part of the Wikipedia entry for "mix tape." This 'toon is definitely referring to the Hip Hop definition of mix tape, more like a demo than a home-made sample of other people's tracks.

From wikipedia:
"Often each track on a promotional hip hop mixtape will feature the same artist, thus making it more difficult to differentiate from the definition of a standard album. However, these mixtapes will usually have much lower production values than a studio album (such as housing "Demo" versions of tracks, or simply un-mastered/un-mixed versions of the tracks), and contain numerous collaborations, remixes, freestyles and voice-overs, often arranged in a specific flowing fashion, much like retail albums are."
--[[User:24.188.228.33|24.188.228.33]] 05:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==New Math==

<blockquote>
*"My name is [[Tenerence Love]]" actually equals <math>Tenerence Love + 1</math> by order of operations, not <math>Tenerence Love remainder 3</math> as stated.
**Additionally, if the equation is interpreted as <math>(My name is Tenerence Love + My Name is Tenerence Love) / My name is Tenerence Love </math>, it should equal two, by factoring.
</blockquote>

...so, we're debating the mathematical formula behind what're basically nonsensical lyrics? As I said in the edit summary when I removed these, this seems to be talk page material and nothing more. Anyone? -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

::I was about to say the same thing. They're FUN facts, people. Who honestly cares whether or not it would be remainder three or the square root of piemonade???? I vote DELORTED!!--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 05:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC) Edit: oh, it already was delorted. Too little too late.
Keep it civil. I actually found this very interesting and worked it out for myself. ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove'' = –1 if you perform the addition before the division; otherwise it is undefined. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not saying it's not *true* or anything... I think it's great talk page material, but trying to analyze a nonsensical "math problem" in a comical rap song seems... a bit odd, IMO. -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... I guess I hear the maths differently to you guys... I hear it as (abbreviating ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove'' as <math>x</math> for readability): <math>\frac{x+x}x = x\mbox{ r}3</math>, that is: <math>\frac{x+x}x = x + \frac 3 x</math> which solves to <math>x=1 \plusmn \sqrt 2 i\,</math>. Of course, this has problems, as the "remainder" thingy usually only makes sense when you're dealing with integers, not complex numbers... but it's a reasonable extension. Anyways, the order-of-operations reading, <math>x+\frac x x=x\mbox{ r}3</math>, makes even less sense, since the division has to be the last step for the remainder thing to make sense. Also, I'm with YK here... precedent is that pointless mathematical overanalysis, however fun, belongs on the talk page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Glad to see I'm not the only one who heard that and thought of a quadratic equation. I'm tempted to claim this is an IR to Virus ("Did the quadratic formula explode?" -SB) but that's... um... unlikely. At best. It could also be a nod to the old Bogus Mathematical Theorems, but I doubt that as well. Anyway, for the record, even though it makes no sense to state the equation with a remainder using the order of operations reading, you can still solve it for ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove''. It's 3. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 21:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
To anyone who wants this in the article: Y'all buscuitheads, you remind me of ''[[Wikipedia:A Beautiful Mind (film)|A Beautiful Mind]]'' — "finding" meaning in the meaningless. Rondleman, you crack me up. Crack! Me! Up! (P.S. I <s>hated</s> strongly disliked ''A Beautiful Mind''.) Whew, I get ornery at 1:00 in the morning! I do have to say, "the square root of piemonade" made me laugh. Thanks for that, Nevadie. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 08:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

It's just a parody of the fact that he said "plus" in the second line, which can mean adding in the grammatical sense or in the mathematical sense. It's called poetic license. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== warsh ==

I'm not sure if anyone cares, and I'm sure it doesn't belong in the article anywhere, but I thought it might be worth mentioning that in some areas of Eastern Canada, especially [[wikipedia:Prince Edward Island|PEI]], pronouncing the word "wash" as "warsh" is actually part of a regional accent. I used to live in that region, and almost nobody my age ever said it like that, but a lot of us had parents who did. Also common around there is saying "slippy" instead of "slippery", and saying the word "barrel" in such a way that it sort of rhymes with "Carl". - [[User:24.71.223.142|24.71.223.142]] 05:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:Warsh is also a common pronunciation of wash in Kentucky and some areas further south. Unusual that it makes the long leap up to Canada and skips over everything in between. [[User:Maktaka|Maktaka]] 09:39, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::As interesting as that is, I don't think it has anything to do with Coach Z's pronounciation of the word. He simply pronounces all words like that, and the majority of them do not sound similar to any other accent in any region. (For example, Port = Putt. What?) {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 10:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Anthropomorphic Egg==
When I saw the egg chasing after Peacy P's limo/waffle house, my first thought was that it was supposed to be one of the villains from Data East's [[Wikipedia:Burgertime|Burgertime]], but a quick check of the box art shows that the egg didn't wear a domino mask as portrayed here. Is this a ''Burgertime'' reference despite the cosmetic difference, or is the significance of the egg relevant to something else?
:Dude, it's breakfast, and it's walking. Some things in these cartoons are just silly for the sake of silly, not everything is a reference to something and/or has a hidden meaning. - [[User:24.71.223.142|24.71.223.142]] 05:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Nate Dogg==

I believe that Tenerence Love is 'sposed to sound like Nate Dogg. And also "It don't stop" is something that alot of rappers (especially Snoop Dogg) says. [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 07:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Tenerence Love wearing a donut reminded me of Luther Vandross and his infamous diet, but I don't necessarily think that's a reference, either. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 13:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Rap Song Visuals ==

Someone needs to write a separate article for the video's visuals (I don't know if I have time to do it) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Fast Food Freestyle==
This supposed RWR ("Peacey P places an order for food much like in the video "Fast Food Freestyle" on Youtube.") needs some discussing, methinks. Pretty funny video, and similar, but sometimes there's an overlap in ideas that TBC may think are original but that have been done before. Is it a reference? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 15:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd have to say TTATOT. It's just another random thing they do. Ordering breakfast in the middle of a rap song.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Peacey P ==

...is the abbreviation PCP, which can mean a lot of things ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCP]), but probably Phencyclidine. This would make it another drug reference. --[[User:91.97.14.14|91.97.14.14]] 16:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:See his character page. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 18:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Coach Z's accessories==
If you may notice, Coach Z's hat and Z change during the toon. {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}

==I don't even know who's song this is==

Is that part a reference to the reputation of rap songs sampling other songs without permission? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Yes Yes, Yall ==

reference to the Will Smith song? most likely a coincidence, but i immediately thought of the Will Smith song Yes, Yes Yall (i think that's what it's called). whatchyall think? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 20:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Rap Song

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Jibblies 2

NevaDie — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:02:23 GMT

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{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|ween07|Fan Costumes '06|Homestarloween Party}}
[[Image:Jibblies 2.png|thumb|An incredibly scary Halloween-type cartoon, made by the same people who always make these cartoons!]]

The [[Horrible Painting]] wreaks havoc on the citizens of [[Free Country, USA]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Mad}}, [[Horrible Painting]], {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), {{film|The Goblin}}

See '''[[Jibblies 2 Costumes]]''' for more information on what everyone was wearing.

'''Places:''' [[Strong Mad's Room]], [[The Stick]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Bar]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]], [[The King of Town's Castle]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], Inside the [[Horrible Painting]]

'''Date:''' October 29, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 6:44

'''Page Title:''' Buy a bag, go home in a box!

==Transcript==
''{Strong Mad stands in front of a mirror labeled "Man of the Year" and "TIME", and places a cap on his head while grunting contentedly.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' I FORGOT MY RUSKIE FLAG!

''{Foreboding music starts to play as Strong Mad walks to and opens the closet.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeeere....

'''STRONG MAD:''' AUGH! JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE!

''{Title appears: "Jibblies 2", "an incredibly scary halloween-type cartoon", "made by the same people who always make these cartoons", "okay, maybe it's not that scary"}''

''{Cut to The Stick.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}'' ''{flips a hat onto The Stick}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, he looks adorable. Get a picture. Get a picture.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises; imitating the shutter click}'' ''{takes a picture with an imaginary camera}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's a keeper.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{querying The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I don't know where Strong Mad is. You'd better go check on him.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noises}'' ''{walks away}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{calling out}'' Make sure he didn't get into our stash of razor blade candy apples again! ''{pause; to The Stick}'' I hate you.

''{Cut to The Brothers Strong's house.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{walking in}'' ''{casual The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to Strong Mad standing with his eyes shut and twitching violently.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{screams, flails arms wildly}''

''{Strong Mad continues moaning and twitching. The Cheat stands in the doorway in shock and the Horrible Painting approaches him from behind.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeeeeeere....

''{The Cheat turns around and is bombarded with green circles emanating from the Horrible Painting. Cut to a statue shaking on the shelf while The Cheat continues screaming.}''

''{Cut to Marzipan playing her guitar.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing in tune with the notes}'' E... A... D... G.... ''{phone begins to ring}'' Homestar, could you get that?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{off-screen}'' No way!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{annoyed}'' Homestar, I'm busy tuning my costume! ''{strums}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{off-screen}'' And ''I'm'' busy not answering the phone!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Humph. ''{Cut to answering machine with 666 waiting messages; foreboding music plays.}'' Oh, great, you made me miss it.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{answering machine recording}'' Boo! This is Marzipan. Leave me a spooky message. ''{beep}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' ''{answering machine recording}'' Come on in heeeeeere.... ''{green circles emanate from the speaker}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Jibblie Jibblie Jibblie! ''{continues}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{simultaneously; walks on screen}'' Marzipan! I'm done not answering the phone! Do you need me to answer the phone? Marzipan? What are you doing? Are you playing a song? What is that? Raspberry Beret? Wait, what's that? You say you want me to go out by myself and leave you here? Okay! If you say so! ''{walks away}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{continuing insulting The Stick, from earlier}'' ...and your stupid face! And your stupid face!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{walking on screen}'' Hey, Strong Bad! ''{to The Stick}'' Hey, The Cheat!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, if it isn't the Human Grate On My Nerves! Don't you have an estranged girlfriend to be annoying somewhere?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Naw, she's busy shimmying and shaking and talking about giblets or something.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Jibbilits? ''{foreboding music}'' Wait, Homestar, are you telling me that Marzipan has the jibblies?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad, I think that's a bit of a personal question.

'''STRONG BAD:''' We gotta hurry! Strong Mad and The Cheat are in great...-ve... danger! ''{runs off}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I hate you, The Stick.

''{Cut to The Brothers Strong's house.}''

''{Homestar and Strong Bad peek in the doorway and gasp. Cut to The Cheat and Strong Mad, who both have the jibblies.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh no! We're snowed in! I mean, we're too late! I know who's behind all this! ''{walks to and opens closet, revealing a stuffed dinosaur}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Who? Donkis is behind this?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, no, not Strong Mad's stuffed ''Dromeciomimus''. There's usually this really horrible painting in there. ''{cut to Horrible Painting}'' Of some kind of demon holding a torch. Why is he holding that torch?!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, you mean the jibblies painting.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{abrupt record scratch}'' Wait, you know about it?!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah! Brother called up Marzipan right before I ran into you.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Jibblies via phone line? It's worse than I thought!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' The Donkis must be stopped!

''{Cut to a table.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{deals a card}'' Oh, the Clutch of Glaives. ''{to Pom Pom}'' That means you should start sending some hot chicks over to your ''{smacks chest}'' dumpier friends. ''{flips another card}'' Ooh, and the Cult of Ray. That means you should seriously stop hogging all the hot chicks.

'''POM POM:''' ''{accusatory bubbling noises}'' ''{points at Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Don't look at me! The cards do not lie! ''{flips over a card with the Horrible Painting on it, which reads, "THE ROCOULM".}'' Weird. I've never seen this one before.

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeeeeere....

'''STRONG SAD:''' Jibblie jibblie jibblie... ''{continues}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{simultaneously}'' ''{jibblie-like bubbling noises; continues}''

''{Cut to a silhouetted backdrop of outside Bubs' Concession Stand. Homestar and Strong Bad are seen running towards it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bubs!! Bubs!!

''{Cut to view of inside Bubs' Concession Stand looking outward}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' We're gonna need garlic, crosses, silver bullets, holy water, and VHS copies of Pumpkinshead 2 through 4! Bubs?

'''BUBS:''' ''{offscreen}'' Jibblie!

''{Cut to behind Bubs' Concession Stand.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Bubs?

'''BUBS:''' Jibblie!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' We're snowed in again!

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, Homestar, we're on our own.

'''BUBS:''' Jibblie!

'''STRONG BAD:''' All the good characters have already been jibblied.

'''BUBS:''' Ahh...jibblie.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What about Coach—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupts}'' ''All'' the good characters.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What we gonna do?

'''STRONG BAD:''' We gotta hide, man. That thing is unstoppable. We'll live underground and slowly evolve into mole people with gross eyes and claws. ''{hisses}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Sounds like a plan!

''{Cut to the showers in Coach Z's locker room.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Yes, when it's Hallerwern night and there's an insane paintin' running around, there's no safer place for a pretty young thing like me than in the shower. My good man, would ya please pass the Port Plus?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' ''{wearing a shower cap}'' Come on in heeeeere.

'''COACH Z:''' Jorbaly jorbaly jorbaly... ''{continues}''

''{Cut to the castle.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ding dang-it, Poopsmith, I want me some of that giblet flu that's been going around. That mess sounds delicious.

''{A rock slides out of the castle wall, revealing the painting's face behind it}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Guess what, come on in heeeere.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Oooh, giblet giblet... ''{continues}''

''{The Poopsmith's mouth quivers and he holds up sign that says, "Jibblie Jibblie". Cut to the couch in Strong Bad's basement where Strong Bad and Homestar peek their head up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now all the lame characters have been jibblied too.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Eh-hem.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Eh, sorry man. All but one.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thank you very much.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, time to start evolving into mole people. Now shut your eyes really tight ''{closes eyes}'' and try to heighten your other senses. ''{grunts}'' Eh, Homestar?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come... on... in heeeere!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Not again! Jibblie Jibblie Jibblie... ''{continues}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Sorry, makin' a sandwich. What did you just say?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeere.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Come on in there? Okay. ''{steps into painting}'' Whoa, nice style! Hello? I came on in here!

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' How's it going, man?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pretty good, creep-stakes. Is this your house?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' It's not much, but it's home. I plan to redo the kitchen.

''{Shot of the kitchen, which has a sink and a urinal. The sink drips once.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That is literally so great. Listen, uh, how come you jibblized all my friends?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' I just wanted someone to come on in here. I love to entertain.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What about that guy?

''{Cut to the Goblin and the Goblin music plays. Cut back to Homestar and the Horrible Painting.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' That guy has serious problems.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh. Well, if I let you entertain me, will you un-jibblify my pals?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Yes, but you will have to stay here with me for all eternity.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, no sweat. I love eternity.

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Then it is done. ''{says "Come on in heeeere" backwards}''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad's basement.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{flying into the air}'' Jibblie Jibblie Jibblie Jibblie Super Scope 6! ''{lands on the couch}'' Whoa, the Jibblies are gone! I'm saved!

''{The Cheat and Strong Mad walk in from the left.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' ME TOO.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad, The Cheat, you're all right! Everything is back to normal.

'''MARZIPAN:''' You guys, have you seen Homestar?

'''STRONG BAD:''' What are you doing in my house?

''{Cut to Strong Mad's closet where the Horrible Painting is, including Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' So... is it eternity yet? I think it is eternity already. Oops, it's five past eternity. You better let me go. Beep beep beep. Your eternity alarm is going off; it's probably time to send me home.

''{Fade to black; a card reading, "END of TOON" is tossed into view.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan is supposed to be making me some giblets or something...

''{Final stinger music plays as background color flashes white and black.}''

''{Fade to the final shot, where all of the characters stand in their costumes.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on The Poopsmith's head during the King of Town scene to see a clip of Homsar and The Horrible Painting that will play right after it:
:'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in here?
:'''HOMSAR:''' I'm a touchy feely-holic! ''{green circles emanate from Homsar's hat}''
:'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' ''{Sliding off the screen}'' Jibblie jibblie jibblie!

*At the end, click on Bubs:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Bubs, nice "Schneider from ''One Day At a Time''" costume.
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' No way. He's Monroe from ''Too Close For Comfort''.
:'''BUBS:''' You're both ''way'' off! Marzipan, do you know who I am?
:'''MARZIPAN:''' I don't know.
:''{Some green slime falls from above and splashes on Marzipan. She frowns.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' I heard that.

*At the end, click on Strong Bad.
:'''COACH Z:''' Hey, Strong Bad! I thought you was gonna dress up as as the alien this year!
:'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Xenomorph! Xenomorph!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' I was going to, but when I got to the Hammakers Slammakers, they were all sold out. I did get an awesome Shiatsu massage wine opener, though.

*At the end, click on Marzipan:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, the girlfriend formerly known as Marzipan, I think you missed a little bit when you were shaving. ''{Marzipan frowns}'' Right there, about the sideburns area.
:'''MARZIPAN:''' More like the former girlfriend known as Marzipan.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Sounds like a plan!

*At the end, click on Homestar:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Pom Pom, now that I'm the strongest man... in the world... let me get that golbol.
:''{Pom Pom gets out the golbol and tosses it into the air. It spins downward and hits Homestar on the head and then flies offscreen.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ow!

*At the end, click on Strong Sad:
:'''STRONG SAD:''' So wait. Was there ever a ''Jibblies 1''?
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Nah, horror movies don't even need first movies anymore. This is the reboot of the reimagining of the reinvention of the original!
:'''STRONG SAD:''' "Original" and "horror movie"? Not these days.

*At the end, click on The King of Town:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' King of Town, I gotta hand it to ya: that is one great melted Don King outfit.
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ooh, I could go for a box of melted king dons myself.

*At the end, click on The Poopsmith:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Good smells? Where The Poopsmith's going, he doesn't need good smells.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
* The cards on the loading screen and during Pom Pom's and Strong Sad's scene are modeled after the 22 [[Wikipedia:Major Arcana|major arcana]] cards of a [[Wikipedia:Tarot|tarot deck]]. As Strong Sad is doing, they are often used for fortune telling, and have various meanings depending on location and order.
* "Ruskie" is slang for Soviet Russians. "Ruskie" is also an adjective which, in Russian, means "Russian."

===Trivia===
*The [[Hanging Objects#Marzipan's House|"Thank You" painting]] in Marzipan's house is dressed up in orange and black for Halloween.
*When the Horrible Painting Demon De-Jibblifies everyone, the backwards sound clip is merely his classic line "come on in here" reversed.
*Strong Sad's tarot cards have "Uh OH, TAROT!" written on the back of them.
*Originally, this toon did not contain the Easter eggs for The King of Town or The Poopsmith. They were added about a day after the toon's release.
*The number on the Horrible Painting's tarot card is the Roman numeral two, referring to the title "Jibblies 2"
*This is the first time a [[Pseudocharacter]] has dressed up for Halloween.

===Remarks===
*When Homestar Runner and The Goblin are inside the Horrible Painting, they appear in [[Wikipedia:CMYK color model|cyan, magenta, yellow, and black]] colors only. In addition, Homestar's colors seem to be inverted, with the exception of his eyes.
*When Pom Pom gets the jibblies, the "mouth" of his Cacodemon costume pulses with electricity the same way the Cacodemon sprite in Doom was animated when it used its electricity projectile attack.
*Marzipan's guitar only has five strings pictured. Also, she names the lowest four strings of a guitar, but plays and sings the pitches A, D, G, B (i.e. starts with the second lowest string).
*Marzipan walks toward her answering machine when she tries to answer the phone, but the phone is not on the same table as the answering machine.
*This is the first Halloween toon that does not take place in the [[Spooky Woods]] at any point.

===Goofs===
*When The Cheat goes into Strong Mad's room, a line can be seen on the wall to the left of the door.

===Fixed Goofs===
*At the end, when everyone's costume is revealed, the name of former pro wrestler [[Wikipedia:Nikolai Volkoff|Nikolai Volkoff]] was misspelled. This has since been corrected.

===Fixed Glitches===
*When this toon was released, during the close up of Marzipan's Answering Machine, the "next" button was clickable, and doing so repeatedly caused the sound to go out of sync with the animation. This was fixed along when the King of Town and Poopsmith easter eggs were added.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]] through most of the toon, except right before he is jibblied.
*Strong Bad [[Fourth Wall Breaks|breaks the fourth wall]] by mentioning the cartoon's title and exclaiming the painting got all the good and lame characters.
*When Marzipan has the Jibblies, Homestar says "What are you doing? Are you playing a song?" in almost exactly the same way as in [[Sensitive to Bees]].
*"We're snowed in!" was previously used on [[Main Page 16]].
*The name of the Horrible Painting's tarot card, 'The Rocoulm', was previously referenced in the [[Secret Pages XML Source#Weeklies XML File|weeklies.xml]] file. The link to the Horrible Painting in the weeklies.xml file (before that link was removed) was "rocoulm".
*Pom Pom giving Homestar the [[golbol]] at the end is a reference to [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*Coach Z asks Strong Bad why he wasn't the [[Wikipedia: Xenomorph (Alien)|Alien]], a reference to the toon's [[Jibblies 2 Teaser|teaser trailer]].
*When exposed to the Jibblies, The Poopsmith looks like he is about to speak, but then he holds up a sign reading, "JIBBLIE JIBBLIE". This is what happens in [[the show]] when The Poopsmith holds up a sign saying he is leaving. In [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], he held up another sign asking for better candy.
*Pom Pom is dressed up as a Cacodemon, previously mentioned in [[alternate universe]].
*This cartoon contains an example of [[couch mumbling]].
*Homestar tells Strong Bad that Marzipan is "shimmying and shaking". This is a reference to [[The Homestar Runner]]'s dance in the short "[[20x6 vs 1936]]".

===Real-World References===
*The page title is taken from the tagline of the 1991 horror movie ''[[Wikipedia:Popcorn (1991 film)|Popcorn]]''.
*Strong Bad's mention of razor blade candy apples refers to the urban legend of unscrupulous people leaving dangerous items like needles and razor blades embedded in Halloween treats.
*Donkis the [[Wikipedia:Dromiceiomimus|Dromiceiomimus]] stands in the same pose as the Dromiceiomimus from [[Wikipedia:Dinosaur Comics|Dinosaur Comics]].
* "[[Wikipedia:Raspberry Beret|Raspberry Beret]]" was a hit for Prince & The Revolution in 1985.
* ''[[Wikipedia:The Mole People|The Mole People]]'' was a 1956 science fiction film starring John Agar.
*''[[Wikipedia:One Day at a Time|One Day at a Time]]'' is a long-running American situation comedy that portrayed a divorced mother, played by Bonnie Franklin, her two teenage daughters and their building superintendent. It ran from 1975 to 1984 on [[Wikipedia:Columbia Broadcasting System|CBS]].
* ''[[Wikipedia:Too Close for Comfort (TV series)|Too Close For Comfort]]'' was a American situation comedy starring Ted Knight as a San Francisco cartoonist sharing a duplex. The show ran from 1980 to 1985 on [[Wikipedia:American Broadcasting Company|ABC]] and in syndication.
*The Bubs Easter egg contains references to two running gags from [[Wikipedia: You Can't Do That On Television|You Can't Do That On Television]]: people getting slimed when they say "I don't know," and Barth the Chef (also played by Les Lye) going "I ''heard'' that!" when someone made a wisecrack about the meat he puts in his hamburgers.
*''[[Wikipedia: The Cult of Ray|The Cult of Ray]]'' is a 1996 album by Frank Black.
*"Xenomorph" is the technical name for the alien species in the [[Wikipedia:Alien (film series)|Alien]] movies.
*"The Clutch of Glaives" card is a reference to the movie [[Wikipedia:Krull (film)|Krull]]. In it, the hero possessed a weapon called "The Glaive" that looked identical to the picture on Strong Sad's tarot.
*When Marzipan gets the message from the Horrible Painting it is message number 666, the [[Wikipedia:Number of the Beast|Number of the Beast]].
*The [[Wikipedia: Person of the Year|Time Magazine Person of the Year]] mirror that Strong Mad uses at the beginning of the cartoon refers to the 2006 issue of the news magazine's annual Person of the Year cover story in which they chose to honor "You, the Reader". Also, the same mirror is shown in the film [[The Big Lebowski]].
*Strong Bad's mention of "Hammaker's Slammakers" in the Easter eggs refers to [[Wikipedia: Hammacher Schlemmer|Hammacher Schlemmer]], a chain of stores that sells high-end luxury gifts.
*''[[Wikipedia: Super Scope 6|Super Scope 6]]'' is an [[Nintendo#Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES)|SNES]] game.
*Coach Z asking for the "port plus" is a reference to [http://www.pertplus.com/ Pert Plus] shampoo.
*"Pumpkin's Head 2 through 4" refers to the ''[[Wikipedia:Pumpkinhead (film)|Pumpkinhead]]'' series of films.
*[[Wikipedia:Don King|Don King]] is a boxing promoter.
*[[Wikipedia:Ding Dong|King Don]] is the alternate brand name of the snack cake Ding Dongs sold in Canada.
*Homestar's line in The Poopsmith's Easter egg echoes the last line of ''[[Wikipedia:Back to the Future|Back to the Future]]''.

==External Links==
*[[HR:ween07.html|Watch "Jibblies 2"]]
*[[HR:ween07.swf|View the Flash file for "Jibblies 2"]]
*[[forum:12732|Forum thread re: "Jibblies 2"]]

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Quality Time with Cardboard Homestar

NevaDie — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:48:41 GMT

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[[Image:Quality Time.png|thumb|"Seriously, Marzipan, how do you get so smart?"]]

While Homestar is on "vacation", Marzipan spends some quality time with his cardboard double.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Marzipan}}, [[Cardboard Homestar]], {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Cardboard Marzipan]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[The Field]] (with fence), [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, August 7th, 2007

'''Page title:''' Cut her some FLAX!

'''Running time:''' 1:48

== Transcript ==

''{Marzipan is sitting on her sofa holding a book called "Algonquin Stew".}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' You know, Homestar, I disagree with what you said about the underlying theme of Chapter 8 in this book. It's really not about man's struggle with double-sided tape. It's a metaphor for the Mesopotamian social hierarchy during the Bronze Age.

''{Shift view to see a cardboard cutout of Homestar wearing glasses and with a butterfly instead of a propeller on his cap. Marzipan supplies the cutout's voice, imitating Homestar's. When she does, she gains a heavy brow and an underbite that resembles Homestar's mouth.}''

'''CARDBOARD HOMESTAR:''' Seriously, Marzipan, how do you get so smart? Don't you see you are a smart?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well thanks, Homestar. I guess I am kind of smart.

''{Title screen: "Quality Time with Cardboard Homestar"}''

''{Cut to a scene in Marshmallow's Last Stand. Strong Sad is playing violin and has a mustache, and Cardboard Homestar has a green tie wrapped around where his neck is drawn.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, thank you, Homestar. This is so romantic.

'''CARDBOARD HOMESTAR:''' You are so smart, Marzy-pan.

''{Scene of Marzipan adding flaxseed oil to something in a bowl in her kitchen.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' And I always like to add a drop of flaxseed oil. Gotta get those Omega-3s!

'''CARDBOARD HOMESTAR:''' Marzipan, you're so smart.

''{Scene of Marzipan playing guitar and singing in the Field.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Marshmallows are fluffy; 

'''CARDBOARD HOMESTAR:''' ''{also singing}'' You are so smart Marzipan.

''{Marzipan is at Bubs' Concession Stand. Bubs puts a carton of [[eggs]] on the counter.}''

'''BUBS:''' There you go, Marzipan! My last batch of organic batteries.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Thanks, Bubs!

'''CARDBOARD HOMESTAR:''' You shop so smart, Marzipan.

'''BUBS:''' Yeah. When is ol' Homestar gettin' back from vacation?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, um, he, um, decided to stay a couple more days. ''{Smiles nervously}'' Yeah, couple more days, yeah. ''{Smiles nervously again}''

''{Cut to Marzipan's living room. Her closet door is boarded shut. Homestar's voice comes from within.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan? Marzipan? Can you let me out now? I'm pretty sure there's no cake in here. It's been about three weeks now, and you'd think I would have found it. All I've been able to find in here is some coats, and a broom. Unless it's a broomcake! Is it a broomcake? Ooh, let's try this broomcake. ''{Noises of labored eating.} {Weakly}'' Uh, Marzipan? This is a really bad broomcake. ''{With renewed vigor}'' Ptooey! Can you let me out, please? Oh, wait—coatcake?

''{The scene goes black and "end" appears.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sing-song}'' Maybe it's a coatcake!

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on the "e" in "end" to see a short scene with both cardboard characters.
*:''{Cardboard Homestar and Cardboard Marzipan are sitting on Marzipan's couch. Homestar and Marzipan can be seen barely onscreen, manipulating each other's characters}''
*:'''CARDBOARD MARZIPAN:''' And then I told him there was cake in the closet. And that's how I got some peace and quiet for three weeks.
*:'''CARDBOARD HOMESTAR:''' Marzipan, you're so smart.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===

*The [[Wikipedia:Algonquin|Algonquins]] are a Native American tribe centered in [[Wikipedia:Quebec|Quebec]].
*[[Wikipedia:Mesopotamia|Mesopotamia]] refers to the region now known as modern Iraq, and some of the surrounding countries. The name comes from the Greek words "between" and "river", referring to the basins of the Euphrates and the Tigris rivers and the area in between.
*The [[Wikipedia:Bronze Age|Bronze Age]] is a period of prehistoric society following the [[Wikipedia:Stone Age|Stone Age]], when working with copper and tin was the most advanced form of metalwork.
*[[Wikipedia:Linseed oil|Flax seed oil]] is vegetable oil made using the seeds of the [[Wikipedia:flax|flax]] plant.
**Flax seed oil is rich in [[Wikipedia:Omega-3 fatty acid|Omega-3 fatty acid]]s, which have certain [[Wikipedia:Omega-3 fatty acid#Health benefits|health benefits]]
*The "organic [[batteries]]" refers to [[Wikipedia: organic food|organic food]], which is supposed to lack toxic [[Wikipedia: pesticide|pesticides]], or any harmful [[Wikipedia:food additive|artificial ingredients]] such as [[Wikipedia: hormones|hormones]]. It also refers to [[Wikipedia:Battery_cage|Battery Cage]] eggs. As these are condemned by animal rights organisations, Organic Batteries would appear to be a contradiction, and evidence of Bubs' ever-shady deals.

===Remarks===
[[Image:Regulareyes_small.png|thumb|right|100px|Regular Eyed Cardboard Homestar]]
*In the [[TV Time Toons Menu]]'s [[HR:menuswfs/menu_qualitytime.swf|preview]], Cardboard Homestar's eyes are shaped like Homestar's normal eyes and have no glasses, and the fence in the foreground is missing.
*In the Marshmallow's Last Stand scene, Strong Sad's bow is pointed the wrong way, as the screw is supposed to be closest to the right hand, not the wooden tip. Also, it appears that Strong Sad's thumb is disconnected from the rest of his hand.[[Image:SSViolin.png|thumb|The screw is the wrong direction/The thumb's disconnected!]]

===Glitches===
*At the end screen, the first part of the easter egg can be heard after Homestar's "coat cake" line.

===Inside References===
*Marzipan pretending Homestar is on vacation refers to [[Happy Fireworks]], when Marzipan was on vacation and Homestar invented Cardboard Marzipan as a replacement.
*Strong Sad wears a [[mustache]].
*Homestar mentions [[cake]].

== External links ==
*[[HR:qualitytime.html|watch "Quality Time"]]
*[[HR:qualitytime.swf|view the Flash file for "Quality Time"]]
*[[Forum:12052|forum thread re: "Quality Time"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|qualitytime}}
[[Category:Shorts]]

more armies

NevaDie — Tue, 22 May 2007 04:11:38 GMT

NevaDie: /* Real-World References */

{{sbenav|172}}
[[Image:Homestar Frank Bennedetto more armies.png|thumb|"The Homestarmy has a career for you in the no-armed forces!"]]

Strong Bad gives us a tour of his Vaguely Military Career Fair.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Mad|}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Gymnasium]], [[Strong Badia]], [[The King of Town's Castle]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, May 21, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:40

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' Bring to me a suitable email, that I may check it down.

<blockquote class="lappy email"><div>
subject: Strong Badia's Army</div>
Mr Strong Bad 
I have three sons that wish to join the Strongbadia army. 
Do you have any pamphlets, brochures, video information 
that could assist. 
Yours, 
Paul, Perth 
Western Australia
</blockquote>
''{He says "Mr" as "Mere" and says "Hey, I am no mere Strong Bad, okay?!" after reading "Mr Strong Bad". He also reads "Paul, Perth" as one name.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Look Perthy Paul, I've been over this already: Strong Badia doesn't have/need an army. When we need muscle, we farm it out to our favorite band of shady missionaries, er I mean mercenaries, MERCENARIES! In fact, if your sons are so bonzer to enlist, they can ''{doesn't type}'' just ''{typing}'' swing by their booth at our Vaguely Military Career Fair, which just happens to be starting right now!

''{Cut to a wide shot of The Cheat next to Strong Bad.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, it's not for three weeks. Okay.

''{Cut to a black screen reading "2 weeks later...". Cut to Strong Bad in his basement.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Introducing...

''{Cut to The Cheat on the couch, with a cane, a bowtie, and a top hat reading "Tito". He turns left and right and waves.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...Tito the Tophaticent! And his beautiful assistant,

''{Cut to a wide shot of the basement, revealing Strong Mad standing behind the couch with two basketballs in his singlet. He waves. Silhouettes of Strong Bad and Strong Sad are visible.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad with two basketballs shoved down his singlet!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Yaaaay!! ''{claps}''

''{Cut to a black screen reading "1 week later...". Cut to Strong Bad sitting at a booth in the gymnasium, wearing an eyepatch and a taped-on mustache. On the booth is a muffler, a stack of brochures, and a pipe. Coach Z walks by.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Excuse me, Ganglo-Saxon. You look like the type of kid that gets his lunch handed to him daily. Well, if you'd like to be the lunch-handerer ''{raises his glove, revealing a robotic claw taped to it}'' for a change, then boy, do the On Point Kings have a brochure for you!

''{Strong Bad puts the brochure on the table. It has the On Point Kings logo on top of a camouflage-style background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's a Roman trifold ''{opens brochure}'' printed on 65-pound cardstock.

''{The camera zooms in on the various features of the brochure.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' 14-point Helvetica, laid out using Quark Xpress! A ''pirated version'' of Quark Xpress!

''{Flips open to another side of the brochure, which shows photos of the On Point Kings in action.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' We specialize in black ops, brown ops, and the occasional beige op.

''{Cut to footage of Strong Badia, where a hopscotch grid has been drawn on the dirt. Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are there, all wearing fake mustaches. "CLASSIFIED" has been stamped on the screen. The Cheat starts hopping along the squares.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Come on, The Cheat! Go for sixies! ''Sixies!''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the booth.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' How do you ever expect to get an ''{shows off his features as he says them}'' eye patch, mustache, or robotic arm like this— clank, clank— unless you join up with a shady band of missionaries? Oh, crap, I did it again! ''{camera moves away}'' Mercenaries, I meant mercenaries! ''{screen pans right and fades out}'' We do bad stuff!

''{Cut to The King of Town at his booth. He is asleep and snoring while he is fed Giblet Gravy through a mask and tube. There is a TV on his table, as well as a sign reading, "Out to lunch Watch video" and an arrow pointing to the TV. Two posters are on the wall. Cut to the video, which shows a silhouetted The Poopsmith slowly climbing up the King's castle.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The drive... the power... the skills... the motivation... the power again...

''{The Poopsmith has reached the top of the castle. He grabs his shovel.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The fortitude...

''{The Poopsmith holds the shovel by his side.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The strive...

''{The Poopsmith holds the shovel up to the dark, cloudy sky as lightning flashes.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The ideals...

''{Lightning strikes the shovel, which gives The Poopsmith dark gloves, a gas mask, a club, and a shield.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The list of attributes...

''{Zoom out on The Poopsmith, revealing a black and white poster with five Poopsmiths with the same gear. A King of Town logo is in the center and the words "The Municipality" are at the top.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The Municipality. ''{words appear as the King says them}'' Honor. Valor. Buttor.

''{Cut to Homestar Runner's booth. Homestar is wearing an orange bowl on his head and is wielding an orange spoon. The table has the popcorn machine Frank Bennedetto behind a sign reading "Not free popcorn, memorial statue". There are two posters on the wall, one depicting Homestar wearing the same outfit, with the caption "Do You Has?", and another depicting the orange bowl and spoon, with the caption "Boond You Like?"}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, young man! Say, young man, young man, young man, young man, young man, young man, young man! ''{points at viewer}'' You look like you come from a long line of five bucks-havers. Well, the Homestarmy has a career for ''you'' ''{points}'' in the no-armed forces!

''{Cut to closeup of Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, you good at video games? I'm not good at video games. ''{chuckles}'' The last time I fired up one of my old Sega tapes, it made me a waffle. ''{zoom in}'' Say, you like pamphlets? ''{holds up a book of "Game Program Instructions" by Videlectrix}'' Here's a pamphlet! ''{tears book in half}'' Here's two pamphlets!

''{Cut to the original wide shot.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, you got a girlfriend? Well, what if your girlfriend was a ''{holds up spoon}'' wooden spoon and an ''{bowl flies off his head}'' orange plastic bowl? ''{lowers eyelids}'' That'd be really weird, man. What kind of screwed-up kid are you? ''{angry}'' We don't recruit your kind! ''{waves spoon}'' Get out of here!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So that's fair, right Dinkum? You send your coolest son off to join the On Point Kings. He'll have to be jumped in. You send your fat son off to join The Municipality. He'll have to be ''{short pause}'' pooped in. And then you send your step-headed red-child off to certain doom in the Homestarmy. He's gonna wanna be jumped out. Well, I gotta go find the bicycle pump. Tito the Tophaticent's beautiful assistant's looking a little...lopsided.

''{Strong Bad gets up and leaves. [[The Paper]] comes down with an odd, sick-sounding noise; it is crumpled and torn. Strong Bad's head returns from the right side of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. That's a bad sign.

''{Strong Bad leaves again.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Shady missionaries.png|thumb|Fairly Religious Overtones!]]
*Click on "Shady Missionaries" to see a [[Taranchula]] album of the same name.
* When Homestar says "The last time I fired up one of my old [[Sega tapes]] it made me a waffle", click anywhere on the screen to bring up a picture of a [[wikipedia:waffle iron|waffle iron]] with a [[Wikipedia:Sega Genesis|Genesis]]-like controller and cartridge attached to it.
*At the end, click on "Tito the Tophaticent's" to see a video clip:
:''{The Cheat, in his Firebert outfit, is standing in front of a sign that bears the Cheat Commandos logo and reads "Meet TV's Firebert!" After a long pause with cricket sounds, he takes out a fine tip permanent marker and replaces "Firebert" with "Trogdor." A large crowd of people gathers around.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[wikipedia:Mercenary|Mercenaries]] are hired soldiers not currently a member of any national armed forces organization, while [[Wikipedia:Missionaries|missionaries]] preach religious teachings.
*Strong Bad uses stereotypical examples of [[wikipedia:Australian English|Australian English]] in his reply, "bonzer" (meaning excellent) and "fair dinkum" (meaning true or genuine).
*[[wikipedia:Black ops|Black ops]] are covert operations which involve activities of a legally or ethically questionable nature.
*Giblet gravy is [[Wikipedia:gravy|gravy]] with the [[Wikipedia:giblets|giblets]], or internal organs, of turkey or chicken. It is usually served with the type of poultry from which the giblets came.

===Trivia===
*The label on the [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#dark seed|dark seed]]".

===Inside References===
*This email heavily references [[army]]. These include:
**Strong Bad's claim that he already said Strong Badia needs no army.
**The memorial to [[Frank Bennedetto]], the only casualty of [[The Battle of Strongbadia]].
**The Cheat does not receive any visitors before he changes "[[Firebert]]", which Strong Bad said (in the email army) was not a good commando name, to "[[Trogdor]]".
*The Cheat's [[Tito]] costume is from [[part-time job]].
*The music during the Tito scene is from [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*[[The Municipality]] was previously used in [[disconnected]].
*The Paper's poor condition is a reference to [[montage]], where it's stated that "The Paper stuck around until email #173, at which time Strong Bad upgraded to an inkjet printer". Being that this is email #172, this could very well be foreshadowing the end of the Paper era by the next email.
**The sound it makes is the same as the one from [[Sick Day]], though an extended version of it.
* The [[On Point Kings]] were first referenced in [[origins]].
*[[The smashed muffler]] and a pipe are sitting on Strong Bad's recruiting stand.
* In his "[[Homestarmy]]" monologue, Homestar mentions [[Sega tapes]].
*The time displayed on the scoreboard is [[Pi|3:14]].
*Homestar's line about pursuing a career in the "no-armed forces" references Homestar's [[Lack of Visible Arms|lack of visible arms]].
*Strong Bad's costume, from when he is running the On Point Kings booth, features a [[mustache]].

===Real-World References===
*The Municipality video closely resembles a commercial for the [[wikipedia:United States Marine Corps|US Marines.]]
**The Poopsmith's shield has "Pooper Fi" written on it, a parody of "[[wikipedia:Semper fidelis|Semper Fi]]" a motto of the US Marines.
*[[wikipedia:Joe Piscopo|Joe Piscopo]] is an American comedian known for his work in ''[[wikipedia:Saturday Night Live|Saturday Night Live]]''.
*The On Point Knights brochure is only partially set in [[wikipedia:Helvetica|Helvetica]]; much of it appears to be set in [[wikipedia:House Industries|House Industries']] [http://www.houseind.com/index.php?page=showfont&id=140 Chalet Book].
*[[wikipedia:QuarkXPress|QuarkXPress]] is a page layout application for Mac and Windows.
**The brochure for the On Point Kings states that the version of QuarkXPress is registered to "B4KDØR H4XXØR" on the third inside page. This is a reference to [[wikipedia:Hacker|computer hackers]] who use "[[wikipedia:Backdoor|backdoors]]" to crack software copy-protection.
**Incidentally, B4KDØR H4XXØR is also a reference to [[Internet Slang|Leetspeak]].
*The pamphlet for the Homestarmy features the cover art for the [[Atari 2600]] version of ''[[wikipedia:Space Invaders|Space Invaders]]''.

==External Links==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:Tito the Tophaticent

NevaDie — Mon, 21 May 2007 21:33:51 GMT

NevaDie:

{{ttbd}}
umm, can't whatever is going to be put here go on the cheat's page? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:05, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, we have an article for [[Tito]]. That one is a bit short, so if we add this in there it'll be a bit better. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:12, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
::Ooooh. Sorry about that. I didn't know Tito had an article. We could merge the info I put in this article into Tito's article and make this one a redirect. Or vice versa if we want to be more specific than "Tito."--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:33, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Tito the Tophaticent

NevaDie — Mon, 21 May 2007 21:24:52 GMT

NevaDie:

[[Image:TitoTophaticent.png|thumb|right|Comes with lovely assistant.]]

Tito The Tophaticent is [[The Cheat|The Cheat's]] performing alter ego. In [[part-time job]], Tito the Tophaticent distracted Homestar while [[Strong Bad]] ran off to Bubs' stand. In [[more armies]], he performed with his "lovely assistant" to entertain Strong Bad until the Army Convention.

"Tophaticent" is a [[portmanteau]] of "top hat" and "magnificent."

==Appearances==

*'''Debut:''' email [[part-time job]]
*email [[more armies]]

Tito the Tophaticent

NevaDie — Mon, 21 May 2007 20:55:44 GMT

NevaDie: New page: Image:TitoTophaticent.png Under Construction

[[Image:TitoTophaticent.png]]
Under Construction

File:TitoTophaticent.png

NevaDie — Mon, 21 May 2007 20:50:54 GMT

NevaDie: Tito the Tophaticent, as seen in the email other armies.

Tito the Tophaticent, as seen in the email [[other armies]].

Talk:The Paper

NevaDie — Mon, 21 May 2007 20:39:27 GMT

NevaDie:

{{featuredarticle}}
Should this be under some directory? like...thingies or something? Just a thought. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:48, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

:That's a good question. I know we'll have something like "Inside Jokes", where most the stuff form the "InsideJokes" page will go. Then there's going to be the stuff that was in the Rejects. They aren't going to be "Rejects", and they will all have their own page, but yeah, we'll have to have a catagory or something for them. The Paper... I don't know. I know there's a "Characters" catagory, and a "Main Characters" category for "The Twelve", but I can't think of anything right now. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:15, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

::This could sound kinda silly, but we can put the paper in a section called "Integral Elements", along with SB's comp. and stuff like that, like things that aren't characters or settings, but are integral to each SBEmail or whatever. Whatcha think? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:53, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::Hmm... Is this where Coach Z's "Z" would go? How about Strong Mad's singlet? Homestar's hat? The stool? The get up noise? Strong Bad's shoe? Marzipan's hair? Where do we draw the line? Arg. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:30, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

::::Well, you pose a good question. I think the "Integral Elements" is a good idea for the important stuff like compy and whatnot...for the unimportant, I think maybe we can have a "Misc." or "Odds'n'Ends" type thing...but you're right...a line has to be drawn. Arg indeed. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 20:51, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

== E-mail Address ==

I'm not certain when it happened, but some time ago, the paper changed from simply
<pre>Click here to e-mail strong bad</pre>
to include his e-mail address. When was that? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 15:22, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

It changed in 21, [[cartoon]]. --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]] 16:16, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

== DVD ==

Apparently there are some more The Paper oddities in the Strong Bad DVD. I don't own the DVD but could someone who does please update this page to reflect this? [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]|[[User_talk:Hobophobic|talk]]

*I have the DVD. The paper says "The End" on there. ---[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]]

== Gender ==

More of an interesting observation, but does that mean that The Printer is Female ([[invisibility]]) and The Paper is Male ([[animal]])? Wow...

Nope, see the last bullet.

:*''The Paper and the printer are therefore separate identities, as The Paper is male and the printer is female. I'm guessing The Paper is the printer's son.''

I removed the recently-added information above as it simply refers to information stated in previous 'oddity' bullets. The part about guessing that The Paper is the printer's son is merely speculation and if it were reworded somehow to be more professional I think it could return to the article. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 19:24, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

What's with all this stuff about assigning the inanimate objects gender? I mean, we call boats "she" but we don't say they're actually female. It could just be a figure of speech (although the ending to [[animal]] implies that The Paper is intelligent, which means it may actually have a gender.)

Well, we're not talking about a normal world here... with humans... so the inanimate objects could have genders. -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]

:Besides, since when is the paper an inanimate object? It seems to have a mind of its own. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:13, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

== Does not seem to have a printer? ==

Stong Band has a printer in the [[Email Processing Room|the processing room]]! --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:21, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:'''Stong Band'''? Is that some sort of elastic cord maker? http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/icon_mrgreen.gif Joking, of course... Yes, you are right about the printer in that old looping clip. But this still doesn't answer or shed any light on how the printer can somehow "invert" itself (because it nearly always prints downward) or how it seems to manifest itself out of the clear blue skies in several toons and emails. I don't think we'll ever know. Well, perhaps once we see Strong Bad Email #173, if the [[montage#Easter_Eggs|montage]] inkjet printer upgrade story can be trusted. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 03:58, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:This is OT, but isn't Stong Band what [[Monkey D|Monkey D's shirt]] said in [[vacation]]?

== Preeeow ==

What is the canon spelling of The Paper's sound effect? This page says it's "preeeow", but Strong Bad types it as "Prreeow" in [[haircut]], and on the note at the end of [[part-time job]] he spells it "preeeeow". Which is it?? -[[User:Polly|Polly]] 08:39, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
: I think you might be reading too far into it. Given that even TBC can't keep it consistent, let's just say that it has a variable number of Rs (at least 1) and Es (at least 2) and leave it at that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:28, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Font? ==

What is the font used on The Paper?
:[[Fonts]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:25, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

== TBC refer to The Paper as a character. ==

In the [[animal]] DVD commentary, TBC refer to The Paper as a character. Shouldn't this be considered official, as all the consensus in the world shouldn't override the creator's opinions, right? (I have a feeling I'm treading on thin ice, here...) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Well, it's not a real, bona fide character because it's too much of a thing. It's not an true item because it has too much personality. That's why it's listed as a [[:Category:PseudoCharacters|pseudocharacter]], which we have defined as something that "for some reason or another treated as real people by the other characters" (or TBC, you could probably add to the end of that). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:21, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
::It's actually surprising how willing the citizens of Free Country, USA are to naming and assigning personality to inatimate objects... - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

The Paper seems to be self-aware so I don't think it should really be a pseudo character. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]]

==Save the Paper?==
The Paper will NOT be replaced in email 173. It says that Strong Bad will get a new PRINTER. Paper can still come out of it, right? --[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]]

:That's true, but TBC probably won't replace The Paper because of a small comment made in an email. {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 18:59, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

::By the way, if you read carefully, it says that The Paper stuck around ''until'' email 173, meaning that (according to [[montage]]) once email 173 comes along, it's gone. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 19:01, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

==the process==
At the end of [[the process]], the camera zooms out from the Compy after the Paper comes down, and we can still see the Paper sitting above the Compy. Is that the only time we see the Paper not occupying the whole top of the screen?
:There's also the ending of [[extra plug]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Built-in printer ==

In [[redesign]], were they trying to imply that The Paper actually comes out of a built-in printer that is part of Strong Bad's computers? This might make sense with the Tandy and Compy, but the Lappy has a flat-screen monitor just like The Cheat's. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

:The way I interpreted it was that Strong Bad thought The Cheat's computer was somehow crippled by the fact that it didn't have the "back half" that Tangerine Dreams did. SB most likely just doesn't understand how a computer that's all-monitor like The Cheat's new iMac can still function as a whole computer. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

::Haven't all of Strong Bad's computers been "all-monitor"? I think he was more confused with how his monitor is so thin. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 01:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Good point. Still, he may have thought something was missing from The Cheat's computer because of the physical difference. And actually, the Lappy is less "all-monitor" than the Tandy and Compy, since most people understand that the actual computer part of a laptop is in the same box as the keyboard, rather than in with the monitor. It was never clear where the actual computer resided in the previous two units. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:14, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

::::I think that his comment definitely implies that The Paper is built in to his computers. It definitely explains why we can never actually see The Paper, but when we see the back of the Lappy in [[isp]], there doesn't appear to be anywhere for paper to come out.{{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 16:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

== Capital what? ==

:''This discussion was taken from [[Talk:The paper]] before it was turned into a redirect to this talk page:''
<blockquote>How in the crap for crap? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 11:58, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

:Heh, I'm having the same problem with "Pom Pom", "Pom pom", and "pom pom". See [[Talk:Pom pom]]. I don't have a clue. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:06, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)</blockquote>

==More Armies==
I added The Paper's scene at the end of [[more armies]] as evidence that something will happen to it. Just in case anyone was about to do it somewhere else.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 20:39, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

The Paper

NevaDie — Mon, 21 May 2007 20:34:19 GMT

NevaDie: Added evidence to The Paper being replaced, taken from more armies

[[Image:close Paper.png|thumb|right|The Paper, doing what it does best.]]
'''The Paper''' is the piece of printer paper that comes down from the top of the screen after nearly every [[Strong Bad Email]]. It usually reads:

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" style="text-align:center;font-family: courier new, monospace;width:350px"
|- style="background:#E0F5E1;"
|  
|- style="background:#F8F8F8;"
| > Click here to e-mail strong bad
|- style="background:#E0F5E1;"
| strongbad@homestarrunner.com
|}

In the first twenty emails, it contained just the first line without an email address. The Paper coming down usually signals the end of the email; however, the majority of [[Easter eggs]] can be found after The Paper has come down. One can either wait around or click on certain words [[Strong Bad]] has typed. It is unclear as to where The Paper actually comes from, since Strong Bad does not seem to have a printer above his computer. This seemingly magical paper can sometimes be seen manifesting itself out of the clear blue sky, where it can seem huge in comparison to its normal size. Some suggest that it's merely in the foreground.

From the sound it makes and the quality of the printout, the printer that produces The Paper can be assumed to be of the [[Wikipedia:dot matrix printer|dot matrix]] variety. (However, The Paper prints upside-down from how a real dot-matrix printer would operate; that is, the ''last'' line prints first toward the free edge of the page.) The sprocket holes on the edges further indicate that it has a tractor feed mechanism. Both technologies are almost completely [[Strong Bad's Technology|outmoded]]. According to the Strong Bad Email [[montage]], it will be replaced by an inkjet printer after email #173. That, of course, remains to be seen. However, after [[more armies]], when The Paper came down looking crumpled and torn, it seems almost inevitable that something will happen to The Paper.

The [[onomatopoeia]] for The Paper's sound effect is "[[preeeeow]]", mentioned in [[autobiography]], [[haircut]], [[part-time job]], [[garage sale]], [[lady fan]], and [[coloring]]. It should also be noted that The Paper is always referred to with an [[integral article]].

== Abnormal Sayings ==
The Paper has displayed messages other than the standard "Click here to e-mail Strong Bad" link.

*At the end of [[Superbowl Dealie]], it reads, "Due to the big game, the Strong Bad Email will be late this week."
*At the end of [[Arcade Game]], it reads, "Click here to play the Trogdor arcade game."
*At the end of [[duck pond]], it reads, "Click here to play '[[Duck Pond]]'".
*At the end of [[King of Town Email]], The Paper comes down and reads, "Nobody wants to e-mail The King of Town. For real."
*In the [[HR:crazycartoon.html|Toons Menu version]] of [[crazy cartoon]], it appears in [[Powered by The Cheat]] form and reads ">>>The End<<<".
*In the [[strongbad_email.exe|DVD]] and [[Podstar Runner]] versions of Strong Bad Emails, it simply reads, ">>The End<<", due to the inability to link to Strong Bad's email address.
*It displays the menu options on the [[strongbad_email.exe]] DVD. There is also a "bottom-feeding Paper" reading "Make your selection and mash GO, moron!"
*In the email [[animal]], it reads "Enough already, Strong Bad" above the usual email information.
*At the end of [[Sick Day]], a very unhealthy-looking (crumpled) The Paper reads "Strong Bad, I can't come in today."
*At the end of [[cliffhangers]], it reads, "Tune in next time for the cliff hanging conclusion!!"
*In [[retirement]], The Paper translates what the broken [[Tandy 400]] and [[Compy 386]] are trying to tell Strong Bad. At the end of retirement A it read, "To Be Continued Tomorrow!" before retirement A and retirement B were merged. At the end of the email The Paper reads, "It was me. I like hushpuppies."

== Other "The Paper" Oddities ==
===General===
*At the end of [[guitar]] Strong Bad uses the [[BMW Lighter]] and unintentionally scorches The Paper.
**In an Easter egg in the DVD version of [[caffeine]], The Paper gets scorched again by Strong Bad's science project, "The Effects Of Gasoline On Fire".
*The printer for The Paper is apparently female; at the end of [[invisibility]], the contrast knobs of the [[Tandy 400]] can be repeatedly clicked to produce the message "tell the printer i'll miss her." However, The Paper itself is male, as mentioned in [[animal]] when Strong Bad asks "him" to come down and meet the new [[Lappy 486]].
*Apparently, The Paper can also produce counterfeit money; in an Easter egg in [[couch patch]], one can click on a hidden link to make The Paper print out an [[Wikipedia:ASCII art|ASCII art]] million dollar bill.
*Strong Bad also uses The Paper in [[autobiography]] to print out the actual email. He runs the command "print_of_it.exe" to do so.
**Later in this email, The Paper takes a while to signal the end of the email due to a paper jam (according to Strong Bad).
*In [[theme park]], The Paper comes down twice.
*In [[extra plug]], even when the power is out, The Paper still comes down, with the help of [[Strong Mad]] and [[The Cheat]].
[[Image:montage_thepaper.PNG|thumb|220px|right|An inkjet printer in the future?]]
*In [[more armies]], the paper comes down crumpled and torn, and makes a noise identical to the one in [[Sick Day]]. Strong Bad comments that "that's a bad sign." In addition, more armies is email number 172, just one before the email mentioned in [[montage]] as the one where Strong Bad gets an inkjet printer.

===When it has a mind of its own===
*At the end of [[50 emails]] it comes down prematurely, ending an email which, in Strong Bad's opinion, was not quite over.
*The Paper can occasionally follow orders, though. In [[date]] and [[for kids]], Strong Bad instructs The Paper when to come down to bring the email to a close.
*In [[the facts]], The Paper comes down after [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] says, "And that's the end of my show, DONK!" Strong Bad objects to this.
*In [[animal]], The Paper nervously goes back up when meeting the Lappy. It then tells Strong Bad via printout (see [[#Abnormal Sayings|above]]) that he's stopped being funny for the day.
*In [[part-time job]], The Paper doesn't come down on its own. Instead, "ps: preeeeow" must be clicked to make it come down.
*In [[Sick Day]], The Paper is wrinkled and produces a sick-sounding noise, and tells Strong Bad that it can't come in. It then retreats when Strong Bad asks if he can blow his nose on it.
*In [[retirement]], The Paper suddenly appears and offers to translate the Tandy 400 and Compy 386's language of "extravagantly broken computer." Later, The Paper explains to Strong Bad that it is the one that likes hushpuppies.

===When it shows up in odd places===
*In [[stand-up]], it comes down in front of the [[Telebision]] after the end of [[Strong Sad]]'s video.
*In [[little animal]], it appears at the top of the screen while Strong Mad chases Strong Bad around the room. It also remains there when you switch to [[Strong Man]] chasing [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] and back.
*In [[the bird]], it comes down from the sky. [[Pom Pom]] lifts the corner and [[Homestar Runner Peeking|peeks out]] from under it.
*In [[property of ones]], it comes down over the [[Cold Ones]] [[:Image:sbemail39.PNG|needlepoint]].
*In [[big white face]], it appears above [[The Poopsmith]], who pokes at it with his shovel.
*In [[replacement]], it appears above Strong Bad's grave.
*In [[garage sale]], it comes down from the sky. When viewing the Homestar Runner Easter egg, it remains centered on the screen even as the scene shifts to the left.
*In [[lady...ing]], The Paper comes down to the right of the Lappy (although centered on the screen), after Strong Bad has fallen asleep on that side.
*In [[redesign]], The Paper comes down in front of the "Redesigning SBEMAILS, JERK FOOT" logo.
*In [[retirement]], it appears on the roof of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] and in the field.

===When it's not The Paper===
[[Image:Supra Modern Telegram.png|thumb|Old-Timey The Paper]]
[[Image:Soapoperapaper.png|thumb|The Paper in email [[lady fan]]]]
*In the [[little animal#DVD Version|DVD Version]] of [[little animal]], the [[Old-Timey]] version of The Paper is a [[Supra Modern Telegram]] reading "-the end-".
*In [[superhero name]], a comic book with an "email Strong Bad" link appears in lieu of The Paper.
*In [[vacation]], The Paper does not appear at all.
*In [[japanese cartoon]], The Paper is replaced with an anime credits list.
*In [[mile]], a [[Powered by The Cheat]] version of The Paper appears.
*In [[dreamail]], The Paper takes the form of an upside-down copy of the [[Wikipedia:United States Constitution|United States Constitution]], with the Strong Bad email link scribbled at the top.
**This is the fifth time in seven consecutive emails that The Paper has had at least one unusual twist.
*In [[death metal]], the link to Strong Bad's email address is on the bottom of the death metal worksheet.
*In [[lady fan]], The Paper is shown coming out of a printer in a "boring soap-opera comic".

== See Also ==
* [[Sound Effects#the_paper|Sound Effects]] to listen to an audio sample.

[[Category: Items|Paper]]
[[Category: Pseudocharacters|Paper]]

Firebert

NevaDie — Mon, 21 May 2007 20:21:16 GMT

NevaDie: Added the part from more armies

[[Image:firebert_army.png|thumb|left|150px|The Cheat's first appearance as Firebert]]
[[Image:firebert_cartoon.png|thumb|right|150px|Firebert is gonna blow some stuff up.]]

'''Firebert''' is [[The Cheat]]'s commando name. He insists on being called this whenever he goes on a commando mission for [[Strong Bad]]. Both Strong Bad and [[Gunhaver]], however, think it's a terrible commando name. As a character in the TV show ''[[Cheat Commandos|Cheat Commandos Adventures]]'', he speaks like The Cheat, while the other commandos speak in English. (Curiously, Strong Bad spoke normally when playing with the Firebert character in the [[Cheat Commandos (toon)|Cheat Commandos commercial]], instead of imitating The Cheat.) He seems to be the demolitions expert, as evidenced in the original commercial, where he blew up a large cliff, with [[Blue Laser]] operatives directly below it.

Strong Bad owns the Firebert [[Action Figure Character Variations|action figure]].

Firebert is one of the Cheat Commandos featured in the first Cheat Commandos [[Store Toys|figurine set]].

In the email, [[more armies]], The Cheat is in a booth with a poster that reads "Meet TV's Firebert." After some time with no visitors, he dejectedly changes "Firebert" to "[[Trogdor]]."

==Defining Traits==
*Yellow Dog!!
*Black Hat!
*Not a Good Commando Name!!
*That One Little Guy!!

==Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[army]]
*[[:Category: Firebert Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

{{CheatCommandos}}
[[Category: Cheat Commandos Characters]]

more armies

NevaDie — Mon, 21 May 2007 20:19:14 GMT

NevaDie: /* Inside References */

{{sbenav|172}}

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Mad|}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' computer room

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, May 21, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:40

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
{{transcriptinprogress|Sam the Man}}
'''STRONG BAD:''' Bring to me a suitable email, that I may check it down.

==Easter Eggs==

*Click on "Shady Missionaries" to see a Taranchula album of the same name.
* When Homestar says "The last time I played a [[Sega tape]] was in a waffle", click on him to bring up a picture of a waffle.
*At the end, click on "Tito the Tophatician's" to see a video clip.
*:''{The Cheat is standing in front of a sign that bears the Cheat Commandos logo and reads "Meet TV's Firebert!" After a long pause with cricket sounds, he takes out a fine tip permanent marker and replaces "Firebert" with "Trogdor." A large crowd of people gathers around.}''

==Fun Facts==

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's claim he already said Strong Badia needs no army references [[army]].
*The memorial to [[Frank Bennedetto]] is also a reference to army.
**Frank Bennedetto was the only casualty of [[The Battle of Strongbadia]].
*The Cheat changing "[[Firebert]]" to "[[Trogdor]]" is another reference to [[army]], when Strong Bad told him that Firebert wasn't a good commando name.
*The Cheat's Tito costume is from [[part-time job]].
*The music during the Tito scene is from [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*The Municipality was previously used in [[disconnected]].
*The Paper's poor condition is a reference to [[montage]], where it's stated that the paper stuck around until email 173, which is the next one.
**The sound it makes is similar to the one from [[Sick Day]].
* The [[On Point Kings]] were first referenced in [[origins]].
*[[The smashed muffler]] and a pipe are sitting on Strong Bad's recruiting stand.
* In his "Homestarmy" monologue, Homestar mentions [[Sega tapes]].

===Real-World References===
*The Municipality video closely resembles a commercial for the [[wikipedia:United States Marine Corps|US Marines.]]
**The Poopsmith's shield has "Pooper Fi" written on it, a parody of "[[wikipedia:Semper fidelis|Semper Fi]]" a motto of the US Marines.
*The Poopsmith's transformation into the Municipality Soldier is similar to Prince Adam's transformation into He-Man from the 1980's Filmation cartoon series [[wikipedia:Heman|He-Man]].
*[[wikipedia:Joe Piscopo|Joe Piscopo]] is an American comedian known for his work in [[wikipedia:Saturday Night Live|Saturday Night Live]].
*[[wikipedia:QuarkXPress|QuarkXPress]] is a page layout application for Mac and Windows.

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|172|{{{2|11481}}}}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

more armies

NevaDie — Mon, 21 May 2007 20:07:14 GMT

NevaDie: /* Real-World References */

{{sbenav|172}}

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Mad|}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' computer room

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, May 21, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:40

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
{{transcriptinprogress|Sam the Man}}
'''STRONG BAD:''' Bring to me a suitable email, that I may check it down.

==Easter Eggs==

*Click on "Shady Missionaries" to see a Taranchula album of the same name.
* When Homestar says "The last time I played a sega tape was in a waffle", click on him to bring up a picture of a waffle.
*At the end, click on "Tito the Tophatician's" to see a video clip.

(The Cheat is standing in front of a sign that reads "Meet TV's Firebert!")

(The Cheat sighs, then replaces "Firebert" with "Trogdor" as hundreds of people come running up)

==Fun Facts==

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's claim he already said Strong Badia needs no army references [[army]].
*The memorial to [[Frank Bennedetto]] is also a reference to army.
**Frank Bennedetto was the only casualty of [[The Battle of Strongbadia]].
*The Cheat's Tito costume is from [[part-time job]].
*The music during the Tito scene is from [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*The Municipality was previously used in [[disconnected]].
*The Paper's poor condition is a reference to [[montage]], where it's stated that the paper stuck around until email 173, which is the next one.
**The sound it makes is similar to the one from [[Sick Day]]
* The [[On Point Kings]] were first referenced in [[origins]].
*[[The smashed muffler]] and a pipe are sitting on Strong Bad's recruiting stand.

===Real-World References===
*The Municipality video closely resembles a commercial for the [[wikipedia:United States Marine Corps|US Marines.]]
*The Poopsmith's transformation into the Municipality Soldier is similar to Prince Adam's transformation into He-Man from the 1980's Filmation cartoon series [[wikipedia:Heman|He-Man]]
*[[wikipedia:Joe Piscopo|Joe Piscopo]] is an American comedian known for his work in [[wikipedia:Saturday Night Live|Saturday Night Live]].
*[[wikipedia:QuarkXPress|QuarkXPress]] is a page layout application for Mac and Windows.

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|172|{{{2|11481}}}}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:DNA Evidence

NevaDie — Wed, 16 May 2007 21:13:30 GMT

NevaDie: /* Dangeresque, Also? */

== Article name ==

I think that we should move the article for the toon to [[DNA Evidence]] and just use the {{tl|abouttoon}} and {{tl|for}} disambiguation notices for the top of the page, rather than having a separate disambiguation page. My reasons: (1) the toon is more important than the running gag, now that all the appearances of the gag have been included into the toon, (2) it will make it easier to cite the toon in the future, which will be necessary for the article much more often than for the gag, (3) it will look better in {{tl|toonnav}} at the top of [[Date Nite]] and the other one (currently [[The King of Town DVD]]), although we could just do a workaround by substituting the template or using a parserfunction in {{tl|toonnav}}. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

:I agree. It should be moved to [[DNA Evidence]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:22, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
::'''AGREE'''/10 {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 23:32, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Agree. That seems to be a worthy proposal. --[[User:Chiron|Chiron]] 23:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

== Detective ==

When Homestar was running around in his little detective outfit, isn't that a lack of visible ar- wait, it was already referenced. Oh well. "It's gonna cost you an arm and a leg!" --[[User:Chiron|Chiron]] 23:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
:His arm being visible inside that sleeve (so to speak) is going to answer a lot of questions about invisible arms vs telekinesis, eh?

== Goofs ==

I actually saw this: When Marzipan first walks up to Bub's concession stand, She did not have her toga on. After I got off and got back on a short time later, She was wearing her toga when she walked up to Bub's's.

I noticed this too. I added it. If anyone disagrees, go ahead and remove it. ;) [[User:DNA Evidence|DNA Evidence]] 02:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Dangeresque, Also? ==

Strong Bad seems to be reprising his role of Dangeresque while he is being interviewed by Strong Sad - he's wearing the glasses, he's in the [[smoky office]], he even says the catchphrase. Should this be mentioned in the Cast section? [[User:Not Horse Woman|Not Horse Woman]] 00:03, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:I even heard some of the Dangeresque music at one point! [[User:Neox|Neox]]
::ONE point? --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:::Well, of course. He even says "I'm gonna have to jump!" at the end. No question he was being Dangeresque.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Homestar's teeth ==

On Strong Sad's chart, Homestar is shown smiling with teeth showing. Where should this fact go? -[[User:72.26.64.24|72.26.64.24]] 00:06, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:I was bold and stuck it in Remarks. If that isn't appropriate, you can move it. -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 00:15, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Delete ==

Could one of y'all sysops delete [[DNA Evidence]] because the actual toon is called [[The DNA Evidence]] and I was going to move [[DNA Evidence (running gag)]] back to [[DNA Evidence]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:Precedent is to name the articles by whatever the [[Toons|Toons Menu]] calls it, even if that's different to the title card in the toon. The menu calls this toon just "DNA Evidence", without the "The". Look at [[KOT's VOQPCS!]] and [[A Folky Tale]]... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:54, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

==Edit Conflict'd==

I thought it was just the transcript we couldn't touch. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 01:00, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Dang!==

The cleaner on Coach Z's Janitator cart was called "DANG!". This could possibly be in reference to a product called [http://www.easyoffbam.us/ BAM] in North America which has an onomatopoea for a brand name. Thoughts? [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 01:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:Meh, seems TTATOT to me, cleaning products with catchy monosyllabic names are fairly common. [[User:Not Horse Woman|Not Horse Woman]] 02:00, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::I think "DANG!" and "BAM" are pretty similar.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:The last time I checked, "dang" wasn't an onomatopoeia... [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 02:54, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::Dang isn't onomatopoeia by itself, but the adding of the exclaimation mark, especially on a cleaning product, suggests it's a made-up one, like using "Zonk!" on the 60s Batman show. - [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 03:07, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Uh, no. "Dang!" is an interjection. Not an onomatopoeia at all. When was the last time you heard something go "Dang!" when it hit the floor? --{{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 04:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::::True enough, it's an interjection, but the name "Dang!" might be a reference to "BAM" by EasyOff and that was why I put it here in the first place. There aren't any other spray-on cleaning products I can think of or find with a more similar name. - [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 05:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::Also, the same product is marketed in the UK and South Africa under the name "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cillit_Bang BANG]", which might be relevant. --[[User:Johnny Ord'nary|Johnny Ord'nary]] 08:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::::When's the last time they made a cultural reference to something outside of the western hemisphere? Furthermore, I don't know that "bam" is more of a possibility than [http://www.shoutitout.com/clean-stains-home.aspx?box=0&tab=trigger] "shout." --[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 09:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::::I dunno, Lux, ''I'' usually say "dang" when I hit the floor, and a few other words to boot. --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:I think that by this point it's pretty clear [[TTATOT]]. 'Nuff said. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 10:00, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Dangeresque 3 ==
Since SB is dressed like Dangeresque, maybe the famed Dangeresque 3, if there is ever one, will be about the DNA evidence. just a guess, though. -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
:I'm pretty sure that this toon marks the culmination of the DNA evidence gag. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 02:55, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

==Approved Comics==

Both of the easter egg comics appear to bear the mark of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority Comics Code Authority]. While the mark is fairly close to the real thing, the text of the mark on comic books in real life reads, "Approved by the Comics Code Authority". The text in the comics in this toon do not match that text. - [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 02:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Old Maid Marzipan? ==

"Old Maid Marzipan" sounds more like a reference to "Maid Marian" than just simply "Old Maid." Do you think it's both maybe? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 02:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:Possibly. I think it's just more of an old-timey reference to an unmarried woman, rather than a card game. Any thoughts?--{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 04:06, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::If [[colouring|Goody Marzipan]] didn't merit a mention (even being wrongfully gunned down in STUFF), I don't see why this should. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:08, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Office Space again! I said Office Space again! ==

I realize this has been voted down several times already in previous toons/emails, but, yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead and point out what I believe is another oblique reference to Bill Lumbergh of [[Wikipedia:Office Space|Office Space]]: Strong Bad's message on the Lappy starts with "Hi. Yeah, go ahead and...", which is very similar to Bill's manner of speaking. And in this case (as with previous turned-down references), the context is clearly similar to that of Office Space, where Strong Bad writes as sort of a manager, presumably to someone he views as a subordinate. That's where the similarity ends, granted, but I believe there is a definite similarity there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:19, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:And of course, it's possible (not entirely likely, but possible) TBC have seen our discussions and included this just to vex us. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::Personally, if you ask me, I think they've been messing around with us for quite some time now. :) Especially with non-sequiturs like [[Drive-thru]]. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Heck, THIS toon is a pretty big indication of their liking to vex us. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Dorian, i think it's likely. They've said that they use the wiki a lot. Plus... Who knows that they're not actually one of the users on the wiki... How do we know they're not... YOU! [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 04:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::::I just think the idea that TBC, who for the most part are pretty anonymous behind Homestarrunner.com and (to my knowledge) have never directly interacted with the wiki, might be sitting there wondering what they can throw out there that'll totally mess with our minds and get us buzzing over here... I just find that really amusing. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Loose end ==

This cartoon explained almost everything, except why Pom Pom wanted Homestar to bring him the DNA evidence in "From Work." [[User:BethEnd|BethEnd]] 04:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:Umm, what about why it was in the movie they were watching? It left that out too. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 04:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::Hence the subtitle "Your questions sorta answered!". :) Don't read too much into it. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:30, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Hmm, actually, strong sad DID say "just like in the movies". [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 04:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:Heh, or how marzipan got the pink TAMPERED test tube --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 13:41, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I think Bubs just filled it with whatever soda or coloring he had around the stand. [[User:BethEnd|BethEnd]] 14:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Or how about why Strong Bad wanted the DNA evidence to continue experiments on The Cheat when he knew that it was Strong Sad's DNA he was preventing Bubs from analyzing. {{User:Jeadly/sig}} 16:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

THAT was just a flat-out lie to Strong Sad to cover himself. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 19:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Twin Peaks ==

Ok I tried to say this was a reference to Twin Peaks. Am I doing something wrong? Why is this being removed when I add it?
:Because it's TTATOT. Countless shows have "previously on" segments. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::I understand that, but Twin Peaks has the trademark jazz and fingersnap "previously on Twin Peaks" segments. This wouldn't be the first time Twin Peaks was referenced by TBC either.
:::Maybe true, but it's still TTATOT. jazz and fingersnaps are common to detective shows. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 05:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::::That's fair enough. I just know that as a Twin Peaks fan, this reference seems to scream out at me. :) Apologies for being anonymous. Gotta look into getting a user ID.
:::::Umm, it's the link at the top right of the page. ANY hrwiki page. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 05:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

:::::You should! [[Special:Userlogin|Creating a username]] is free and has [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|many benefits]]. Also, I don't know anything about Twin Peaks, but you do have a point that the show has been explicitly referenced in the past. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:26, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::thx... created an account. I know it wasn't rocket science, but hey I hadn't gotten around to it before now. :)
:::::::YAY! now you should remember to sign your talk posts with four tildas: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> so that it leaves your user name and a timestamp. Like these right here: [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 05:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Mild Mannered Alter-Ego ==
Could this phrase be a reference to Calvin and Hobbes? That's where I first saw it. I'm amazingly out of the loop on popular culture though, so I could be wrong. --[[User:James|JamesGecko]] 06:42, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not sure, but I think it was first used to describe Clark Kent, Superman's mild-mannered alter ego. I do know that it's a cliche in superhero comics. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 06:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, it translates back to early Superman, where Clark was described as a "mild-mannered reporter". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Superman is the ultimate source I believe. It also translates to Unix geeks, where the concept of a "super-user" exists, (one with root access on their account, see man (8) sudo). Unix admins often refer to non-priveledged users as "mild-mannered".{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 07:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe we should mention the Superman/Clark Kent/Kal-El thing on the article, it is a clear reference. {{User:Slipstream/sig}}
:Seems to me to be more like a generic reference to superheroes and their alternate identities. The "mild-mannered" bit also applies to Spiderman/Peter Parker and numerous other heroes, although it is correct to say that Superman started the trend. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== toothéd ==

It seems at least notable to me to mention Homestars teeth.

I totally understand the arguments against and why the references have been removed.

I still think it's worthy of note, as his teeth aren't a normal thing.

{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 08:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

:TBC are definately playing with our minds... [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 08:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

:Are those his teeth? I thought it was just hatching. {{User:Mee/sig}}

:It's just the back of the side of his mouth. It shows even on his normal model, when his mouth's open. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 19:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Do You Think...? ==

Do you think that this started out as: 
a. Just something in one of the SBEmails that just stuck around (3 votes) 
b. Was planned as a running joke (0 votes) 
c. Planned as a big toon (0 votes) 
d. Something entirely different (0 votes) 

Personally, I think it was something in one of the SBEmails that they just decided to run with. (In other words, option A.) 
--[[User:ArgentAngel|ArgentAngel]] 10:46, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

:Voting isn't necessary here, unless you think you can go into the past and change TBC's motive with your willpower. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 17:06, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== French ==

Two things. First of all, Strong Sad's pronunciation, is that a foreign pronunciation? He has in the past accentuated in either French or Japanese.
However, the French word for "due" is "dû." Is Homestar trying to say "Mountain Dû" and "tastes like dûdû?" Obviously it's a mistranslated pun, but it's [[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/unnatural#Trivia not the first time.]]--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 10:48, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

==Taxidoimied Strong Bad==

The scene where Homestar hangs up his coat and hat on the 'statue' of Strong Bad suplexing a cougar is from 'your funeral' where it's one of the ways SB wants to be preserved - and apparently part of a sbemail "fantasy" segment. How does that work? Did SB actually die and come back to life during that email?
:No, it was clearly a fantasy because of Strong Bad's changing his mind back at the Lappy. Not sure how it works here though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:09, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::Not to mention, the "previously on..." segment is literally just a series of clips from previous emails, regardless of how they fit in to whatever passes for a reality in the H*R universe. :) Whoever qualifies as the director of the toon (in-universe) just took the clips verbatim. (Obviously, that's true out-of-universe as well.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Previously.... ==

Didn't Bonus Stage once do an intro that looks very similar to this toon's intro? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:Twice, actually, but it's just a coincidence. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 14:42, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::Let's not forget [[fingers]] and [[retirement]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:16, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

==Clue==

Isn't the plot for this similar to that of the board game [[Wikipedia: Clue|Clue]]? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:26, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

:Not really. Do you see "Marzipan in Da Basement with Eggs" anywhere? Clue focuses on traveling from place to place and making conjectures, not going to different people and interviewing them. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 17:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Fun facts ==

Two things I noticed in the Fun Facts section (I want to hear your opinion first, so I didn't edit it)

Strong Sad looking up at the toon title in the beginning of the toon breaks the fourth wall.
:I believe he was looking up to some kind of banner that is part of his presentation. "Coincidentally" the banner is also used as the toon title. So it wouldn't necessarily be a Fourth Wall break since the sign actually "existed". --[[User:80.135.88.26|80.135.88.26]] 16:46, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::There's a fourth-wall break somewhere in there, whether it's Strong Sad or the banner itself. If the banner shifts out of the title screen and into Strong Sad's scene, then the banner itself has broken the fourth wall. If Strong Sad is looking at an element that is physically outside his scene, then he's breaking the fourth wall. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

This cartoon is the conclusion to the DNA Evidence story arc.
:I agree, it looks like this - On the other hand this seems exactly the kind of statement to me that would seduce TBC into making even more DNA evidence references, just to annoy the wikians :) So maybe we should be careful with claims like these. --[[User:80.135.88.26|80.135.88.26]] 16:46, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::I would have worded it: "This cartoon is based on the DNA Evidence running gag that appeared in five straight Strong Bad Emails, starting with X." I agree that declaring it the END of the story arc may be premature, since we don't know what TBC's plans are for this gag. I'm sure we'll see an occasional reference to it from here on out. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Continuity ==

"Well, it all started several weeks ago."
"Well, it all started a few weeks ago."
"Yeah, I went over to Strong Bad's the other day."
This whole thing occurred in TWO days, didn't it? One day when the DNA evidence went around, and then Coach Z 'took it to work the next day.' Then again, they may just be referring to when the emails happened, which was, as of now, 'several weeks ago,' etc. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 19:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Keep it rusty ==

This is one of those rare cases when you can [[:Image:Keep It Rusty.ogg|hear]] what's actually being said by slowing down the audio. I'm going to change the transcript and subtitles now. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 19:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:I agree, it sounds like "rusty," not 'rustic."
::I have no opinion one way or the other. I asked the guys in the channel when i was doing the write up and "rustic" seemed to be the consensus. I have no idea which it is, and will let you guys fight it out. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 20:26, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Reference to email #12? ==

As you might have noticed on the Lappy's screen, does the email Strong Bad receives in [[credit card]] seem to ring a bell? I know the message on the screen is slightly similar.

Talk:underlings

NevaDie — Mon, 07 May 2007 20:51:43 GMT

NevaDie: /* Sbevolution? */

==Clickable?==

Hitting "Tab" on the final screen, I see something highlighted around the "I", but nothing happens when I try to activate it. This isn't the TV show egg. Just a Flash artifact? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:I noticed it too. I think it's just a mistake. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 08:54, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::There is a button there, but there's no script attached to it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Why do I have a feeling they're going to add an easter egg later and it's going to involve DNA evidence?--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 09:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::::That wouldn't surprise me much, actually. >_> --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:07, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::Maybe an easter egg there will talk aabout DNA Evidence. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 09:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

==Done and Done==

I just put all the email on all the respective location pages. Just so you know.--Slipstream 09:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

:Great! Why not [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]]? Registering is free and includes [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|many benefits]], including attribution for your contributions. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:05, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::Nice work. I've noticed that sometimes this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Marzipan%27s_House&diff=prev&oldid=445215 doesn't get done as often as it should], so it's nice when it happens. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about the lack of user, I logged in now, I just really wanted to do it before anyone else could, I changed my sig on my first message--Slipstream 09:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

==DNA Evidence==

Just one more email until we reach 173 AND this one didn't have any DNA Evidence in it, Whats Up?--Slipstream 09:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:Personally, if they had continued the gag after the last reference, I would've been very surprised. Additionally, this might be better on the [[Forum:|forum]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::And just by the way, 173-171=2, not 1. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, but we have only one email to go before 173. 171, '''172''', then 173. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 19:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== You Reek-A Guy ==

Is it me or does the "You Reek-A" guy on the t-shirt look like John Flansburgh? - [[User:Sherlockrunner|SLR]]
:I don't think so. I mean, he's got glasses and dark hair, but that's about the extent of it. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 14:34, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::Actually, that's what I was thinking... [[User:ShiversTheNinja|ShiversTheNinja]] 15:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== He's an expoit! ==

This is at least the third of fourth time that Strong Bad has used that - I don't know what to call it (New York?) - accent. Should it get its own page maybe? And what would such a page be called? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 14:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== Spider-Man 3 ==

This fact was removed, but I really think it's true:
<blockquote>The front page story on Da NewsPapes reads, in part, "Global relations set all types of box office records this weekend. Studio execs were encouraged by the turn-around." This is most likely a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Spider-Man 3|Spider-Man 3]]'', which premiered on the weekend before this email was released and broke the records for both the highest single-day and opening weekend box office earnings.</blockquote>
Spider-Man 3 was pretty big news this weekend; I don't think it's a coincidence. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:I still think it could be TTATOT. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::What do you think the "that" and the "other thing" are? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Any other box office hit ever. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Okay, I see. On the other hand, this particular movie uniquely fits the data due to (1) its release time (this very weekend), (2) box office success (best-selling movie ''ever'' on opening weekend), (3) the response from studio execs (I even read quotes yesterday from Sony pictures execs in [http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/06/boxoffice.ap/index.html cnn.com's story] about this weekend), and (4) the effect that this movie is expected to have on the entire industry ("turn-around"). Yes, there have been previous big box office hits, but I think that the timing and the other connections are too strong to ignore. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== Coke is it ==

Strong Bad refers to the beverage [[Wikipedia:Coca-Cola|Coke]], but as of right now it's not listed in the real-world references. Is that because it's ''too'' obvious? Do we still make that distinction? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

:For me, it falls into the obvious-enough category; but it wouldn't upset me if somebody thought it was necessary to include in the article. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

::Yes, too obvious it is. And sound like yoda just now did i. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]]

==Black Water==

Could it be that Coach Z is part squid? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

:Forum! [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 16:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::There's a song by Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention titled "Let's Make the Water Turn Black," which may also be relevant. [[User:24.152.212.152|24.152.212.152]] 19:44, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Doubt it. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== Mrs. Hardmaster ==

I'm a little curious about Mrs. Hardmaster. Strong Bad says he's going to try to get her fired for child abuse, but who is Mrs. Hardmaster being referenced to in the real world?
: Uh... probably no one in particular? She's a hard master, hence the name, and the concept of overbearing or even abusive teachers is not something that's only come up just once. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== Uh-oh. ==

I see an edit war over a [[Wikipedia:Super Mario Sunshine|Super Mario Sunshine]] reference in the near future. Bonus points if you can find out what I'm referring to. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 19:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
<s>:Okay, i give up. I know that game inside and out and i don't see what you're getting at. Please spill it. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:15, 7 May 2007 (UTC)</s>
:okay, now I've got it... Man, I see what you mean. I hope no one who thinks it actually IS a reference sees it or it's gonna be a hell of an edit war. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:What is it? --[[User:CX360|CX360]] 20:26, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:I think the point is NOT to get it out in the open, hence the avoidance of an edit war. Though now I'm dying to know what it is, too. Oh, well. --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 20:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

::I know what it is. So what do we do if an edit war starts? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== Senor Cardgage soundalike? ==

When Strong Bad starts talking in his "forced" manner in the second-to-last paragraph of the email, he sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. Anyone else pick this up? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:Once again, they're all voiced by the same guy. There's gonna be some overlap. They can ALL be said to sound like each other. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::That's not my point. It's patently obvious that Senor Cardgage and Strong Bad are voiced by the same person, and even sound much like each other. My point is that in this specific place, Strong Bad sounds almost EXACTLY like Senor Cardgage, in terms of the way he speaks, his inflection and nasal tone, etc. It sounded almost exactly like Senor Cardgage's appearance in [[Senor Mortgage]]. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:36, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::: Except that he actually speaks in a higher-pitched voice than Cardgage usually does. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:52, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== cilantro ==

How is this worthy of mention?
*Homestar already has the piece of cilantro in his mouth when he receives the hot dog from Strong Bad. (!-- NOTE: This fact is mentioned here because it is not appropriate to mention this in the transcript (it ruins the joke). Please do not delete it. --)
:...and? A reference to Coke is considered to obvious to be included? The joke is that it's been there for two weeks. Of course it is there.

first of all, the note answered your question before you asked it, secondly, everybody knows coke. Not everybody notices that the cilantro was there. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:39, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
<s>:It's [[HRWiki:Glossary|TTATOT]].</s> It's not TTATOT sorry, but I think not about the Coke refrence. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::Umm, sam, no it's not. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:48, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

::I don't see the point of that fact... Strong Bad's message states that Homestar's had it in his teeth since they ate at that Mexican restaurant ''two weeks ago''. Of *course* he'd have it in his teeth before Strong Bad hands him the hot dog. -{{User:YK/sig}} 19:49, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::: I, for one, noticed the cilantro was there my first time watching before Homestar started reading the food items. I wasn't completely sure of what it ''was'' until he got partway through reading them, but I noticed it. I don't think we should totally avoid mentioning it in Homestar's first appearance in the transcript because it "ruins the joke" because the cilantro itself is not the joke, and because it's not exactly hidden. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:51, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I reworded the fact. I still don't quite agree that it's remarkable, but I think the reword better expresses what is being remarked upon without having to invisicomment it.

== Office Space Reference ==

"We're going to need you to flush twice." If read correctly, it sounds like something Bill Lumbergh would say from Office Space. "Yeah, I'm going to need you to go ahead and come in tomorrow..."

[[TTATOT]] [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:51, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

==Sbevolution?==
[[Image:DaNewsPapes.png|thumb|the old?]]
[[Image:Strong Bad Da NewsPapes underlings.png|thumb|the new?]]
Methinks Strong Bad's design's changed again. From what I can see, the silver thing's gotten narrower, the shading on his diamond is different, and his head is thinner. Any input? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

:No, it's just zoomed out more. That's all it is. Maybe. This may be true, but it might not be. To me it just looks zoomed out, but that's just me. Any other opinions? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

:I concur. --[[User:CX360|CX360]] 20:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

::To whom do you concur to (wow, that sounded fancy)? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Actually, if you have Firefox, open candy product and underlings in 2 tabs, pause at the newspape parts, and flip between them. Now that I do that, Strong Bad's eyes have gotten beadier and the black of his mask is darker. The shading diff is unmistakable, and the silver thing is definitely smaller {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

:::Or if you have Internet Explorer 7, that has tabbed browsing. But I think his mouth has gottten smaller. The shading on the top right part of his mask has changed, too. I don't think his eyes have changed, though. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:39, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

::::Y'know, he does look different now that you mention it. Not quite so broad, somehow. Interesting. --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 20:51, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:underlings

NevaDie — Mon, 07 May 2007 20:40:15 GMT

NevaDie: /* Uh-oh. */

==Clickable?==

Hitting "Tab" on the final screen, I see something highlighted around the "I", but nothing happens when I try to activate it. This isn't the TV show egg. Just a Flash artifact? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:I noticed it too. I think it's just a mistake. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 08:54, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::There is a button there, but there's no script attached to it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Why do I have a feeling they're going to add an easter egg later and it's going to involve DNA evidence?--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 09:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::::That wouldn't surprise me much, actually. >_> --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:07, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::Maybe an easter egg there will talk aabout DNA Evidence. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 09:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

==Done and Done==

I just put all the email on all the respective location pages. Just so you know.--Slipstream 09:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

:Great! Why not [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]]? Registering is free and includes [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|many benefits]], including attribution for your contributions. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:05, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::Nice work. I've noticed that sometimes this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Marzipan%27s_House&diff=prev&oldid=445215 doesn't get done as often as it should], so it's nice when it happens. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about the lack of user, I logged in now, I just really wanted to do it before anyone else could, I changed my sig on my first message--Slipstream 09:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

==DNA Evidence==

Just one more email until we reach 173 AND this one didn't have any DNA Evidence in it, Whats Up?--Slipstream 09:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:Personally, if they had continued the gag after the last reference, I would've been very surprised. Additionally, this might be better on the [[Forum:|forum]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::And just by the way, 173-171=2, not 1. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, but we have only one email to go before 173. 171, '''172''', then 173. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 19:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== You Reek-A Guy ==

Is it me or does the "You Reek-A" guy on the t-shirt look like John Flansburgh? - [[User:Sherlockrunner|SLR]]
:I don't think so. I mean, he's got glasses and dark hair, but that's about the extent of it. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 14:34, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::Actually, that's what I was thinking... [[User:ShiversTheNinja|ShiversTheNinja]] 15:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== He's an expoit! ==

This is at least the third of fourth time that Strong Bad has used that - I don't know what to call it (New York?) - accent. Should it get its own page maybe? And what would such a page be called? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 14:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== Spider-Man 3 ==

This fact was removed, but I really think it's true:
<blockquote>The front page story on Da NewsPapes reads, in part, "Global relations set all types of box office records this weekend. Studio execs were encouraged by the turn-around." This is most likely a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Spider-Man 3|Spider-Man 3]]'', which premiered on the weekend before this email was released and broke the records for both the highest single-day and opening weekend box office earnings.</blockquote>
Spider-Man 3 was pretty big news this weekend; I don't think it's a coincidence. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:I still think it could be TTATOT. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::What do you think the "that" and the "other thing" are? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Any other box office hit ever. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Okay, I see. On the other hand, this particular movie uniquely fits the data due to (1) its release time (this very weekend), (2) box office success (best-selling movie ''ever'' on opening weekend), (3) the response from studio execs (I even read quotes yesterday from Sony pictures execs in [http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/06/boxoffice.ap/index.html cnn.com's story] about this weekend), and (4) the effect that this movie is expected to have on the entire industry ("turn-around"). Yes, there have been previous big box office hits, but I think that the timing and the other connections are too strong to ignore. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== Coke is it ==

Strong Bad refers to the beverage [[Wikipedia:Coca-Cola|Coke]], but as of right now it's not listed in the real-world references. Is that because it's ''too'' obvious? Do we still make that distinction? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

:For me, it falls into the obvious-enough category; but it wouldn't upset me if somebody thought it was necessary to include in the article. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

::Yes, too obvious it is. And sound like yoda just now did i. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]]

==Black Water==

Could it be that Coach Z is part squid? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

:Forum! [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 16:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::There's a song by Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention titled "Let's Make the Water Turn Black," which may also be relevant. [[User:24.152.212.152|24.152.212.152]] 19:44, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Doubt it. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== Mrs. Hardmaster ==

I'm a little curious about Mrs. Hardmaster. Strong Bad says he's going to try to get her fired for child abuse, but who is Mrs. Hardmaster being referenced to in the real world?
: Uh... probably no one in particular? She's a hard master, hence the name, and the concept of overbearing or even abusive teachers is not something that's only come up just once. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== Uh-oh. ==

I see an edit war over a [[Wikipedia:Super Mario Sunshine|Super Mario Sunshine]] reference in the near future. Bonus points if you can find out what I'm referring to. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 19:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
<s>:Okay, i give up. I know that game inside and out and i don't see what you're getting at. Please spill it. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:15, 7 May 2007 (UTC)</s>
:okay, now I've got it... Man, I see what you mean. I hope no one who thinks it actually IS a reference sees it or it's gonna be a hell of an edit war. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:What is it? --[[User:CX360|CX360]] 20:26, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:I think the point is NOT to get it out in the open, hence the avoidance of an edit war. Though now I'm dying to know what it is, too. Oh, well. --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 20:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== Senor Cardgage soundalike? ==

When Strong Bad starts talking in his "forced" manner in the second-to-last paragraph of the email, he sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. Anyone else pick this up? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:Once again, they're all voiced by the same guy. There's gonna be some overlap. They can ALL be said to sound like each other. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::That's not my point. It's patently obvious that Senor Cardgage and Strong Bad are voiced by the same person, and even sound much like each other. My point is that in this specific place, Strong Bad sounds almost EXACTLY like Senor Cardgage, in terms of the way he speaks, his inflection and nasal tone, etc. It sounded almost exactly like Senor Cardgage's appearance in [[Senor Mortgage]]. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:36, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::: Except that he actually speaks in a higher-pitched voice than Cardgage usually does. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:52, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== cilantro ==

How is this worthy of mention?
*Homestar already has the piece of cilantro in his mouth when he receives the hot dog from Strong Bad. (!-- NOTE: This fact is mentioned here because it is not appropriate to mention this in the transcript (it ruins the joke). Please do not delete it. --)
:...and? A reference to Coke is considered to obvious to be included? The joke is that it's been there for two weeks. Of course it is there.

first of all, the note answered your question before you asked it, secondly, everybody knows coke. Not everybody notices that the cilantro was there. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:39, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
<s>:It's [[HRWiki:Glossary|TTATOT]].</s> It's not TTATOT sorry, but I think not about the Coke refrence. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::Umm, sam, no it's not. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:48, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

::I don't see the point of that fact... Strong Bad's message states that Homestar's had it in his teeth since they ate at that Mexican restaurant ''two weeks ago''. Of *course* he'd have it in his teeth before Strong Bad hands him the hot dog. -{{User:YK/sig}} 19:49, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::: I, for one, noticed the cilantro was there my first time watching before Homestar started reading the food items. I wasn't completely sure of what it ''was'' until he got partway through reading them, but I noticed it. I don't think we should totally avoid mentioning it in Homestar's first appearance in the transcript because it "ruins the joke" because the cilantro itself is not the joke, and because it's not exactly hidden. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:51, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I reworded the fact. I still don't quite agree that it's remarkable, but I think the reword better expresses what is being remarked upon without having to invisicomment it.

== Office Space Reference ==

"We're going to need you to flush twice." If read correctly, it sounds like something Bill Lumbergh would say from Office Space. "Yeah, I'm going to need you to go ahead and come in tomorrow..."

[[TTATOT]] [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:51, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

==Sbevolution?==
[[Image:DaNewsPapes.png|thumb|the old?]]
[[Image:Strong Bad Da NewsPapes underlings.png|thumb|the new?]]
Methinks Strong Bad's design's changed again. From what I can see, the silver thing's gotten narrower, the shading on his diamond is different, and his head is thinner. Any input? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

:No, it's just zoomed out more. That's all it is. Maybe. This may be true, but it might not be. To me it just looks zoomed out, but that's just me. Any other opinions? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

:I concur. --[[User:CX360|CX360]] 20:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

::To whom do you concur to (wow, that sounded fancy)? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Actually, if you have Firefox, open candy product and underlings in 2 tabs, pause at the newspape parts, and flip between them. Now that I do that, Strong Bad's eyes have gotten beadier and the black of his mask is darker. The shading diff is unmistakable, and the silver thing is definitely smaller {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

:::Or if you have Internet Explorer 7, that has tabbed browsing. But I think his mouth has gottten smaller. The shading on the top right part of his mask has changed, too. I don't think his eyes have changed, though. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:39, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene

NevaDie — Tue, 01 May 2007 21:39:01 GMT

NevaDie:

== Crack Advertizerman? ==

Is it just me, or does the narrorator for the ad sound like Crack Stuntman a little? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 11:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:um.. It's done by the same person.... sooo...... {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 11:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
::It sounds more like the narrator from the easter egg in [[2 years#Easter Eggs|2 years]]. And Lazylaces, Matt Chapman is an accomplished voice artist. Many of his characters sound nothing like each other, and most don't even sound anything like him. His having done the voice doesn't mean it will sound similar to other characters.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 12:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:::oops... sorry{{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 12:31, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:::No, but his having done the voice means one shouldn't be surprised if it sounds similar to other characters. No need for the attitude - watch it.{{unsigned|82.43.182.51|08:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC}}
::::What attitude?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 17:29, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::I believe it's the same narrator guy from the Yello Dello trailer. Compare 'em. {{unsigned|24.72.94.51|23:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)}}
::::::Don't forget to sign your talkpage posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 05:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

== What the pfargtl? ==

Okay, neverminding what 'pfargtl' is a stand-in for in 'WTPF?', how is that an [[Swearing|instance of swearing]]? Pfargtl isn't even a real word. I kind of get it, since the PF is obviously a stand-in. I'm just not wholly sure it should count. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 13:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:Because it's used as a swear, and the implied swear is the joke and is rather clear. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

==Pfargtl: the new fhqwgads==

Because it's random letters, could pfargtl be the next fhqwgads somehow? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:Forum topic. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

==Hottest Market On the Money==

That sounds more like something Senor Cardgage would say. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I think Senor Cardgage would also throw in something that sounds like a girl's name. [[User:BoobusToober|BoobusToober]] 16:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

:Hottest market on the money, terbigail. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

== .egg == pom pom? ==

I don't really see how a website in the .egg domain is a reference to pom-pom. I know he's egg shaped and all, but it's totally out of context and random to associate these two things. I'm curious what others think before I bother with STUFF though.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:[[pom-pom|Pom Pom]] the sbemail. In it, Homestar and Coach Z are talking, and Homestar says something about something being "dot-egg or dot-muffin or something." - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 16:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

:It's not Pom Pom's shape that's the reference, it's this line from [[pom pom]]:
<blockquote>'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, I'm pretty sure it was dot-egg.</blockquote>
: {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
::Where did my comment go? It was right here...Anyway, I fixed it on the Inside References. It linked to Pom Pom's character page for some reason. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 16:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Sorry about that — see the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sbemail_169_Deleted_Scene&diff=451099&oldid=451095 summary}} for the edit right before your last one. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Still, is this a reference to that email specifically, or just to the [[Eggs]] running gag? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::I believe they were thinking of the first time they made that joke, not coincidentally making the same joke a second time. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:Doh. I had completely forgotten about the "I'm pretty sure it's dot-egg" line. The changed wording makes it much more clear.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 17:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

== Chronology ==

I don't know if this is worth mentioning, but I think we should say that this scene was meant to go between the Strong Sad and Homestar interruptions.

That might work, and please sign your messages with four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:192.235.1.34|192.235.1.34]] 19:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

== Home row ==

Just wanted to point out what I thought was a nice touch — when Strong Bad is typing out Coach Z's letters, he types each letter with the correct hand (for home row). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:No, they messed up 'G'. It should be typed with the left hand, not the right. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, you're right. Oh well. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

== Goofed goof ==
"On the "Shorts" Toons page, it says "A deleted scene for a delted scene?!" under the description."

Isn't this, in theory, an inside reference to [[50 emails]], as HSR attempts to type deleted? Although it isn't one of the words he tries, it still could be a reference, nonetheless. {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

:...I'm gonna have to assume it's a typo. That's *far* more likely than it being a very veiled reference to an old e-mail. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Moot point now. It says ''A big deal for a little scene'' on the shorts menu.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:34, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

== Squint Bad ==

Is it just me, or is this the first time that Strong bad's eyes have "squinted" during a toon in dissapointment? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 00:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

<del>Uh, not in this matter.</del> I guess it would be exactly that. Closest sad look is in [[retirement]]. But not exact. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
:He lowered his eyelids in annoyance before in [[long pants]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

== Split ==

I think each feature should have its own article like [[In Search of the Yello Dello]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

:Ehh. The short is all in ONE file; maybe this should say as one file. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:11, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

:They're [[Rather Dashing|rather short]]. (Heh.) --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, after I wrote that I realized we should wait until we have separate files. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

== Tofu Strong Bad? ==

Hey, could the Cottage-Cheese filled Strong Bad be a reference to Tofu Homestar? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 01:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

:Tofu is made of soy, if i recall correctly, not cheese. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
::OK, that makes sense. But still, it's a dummy made out of food meant to fool people. I still think it may be a reference.[[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 01:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I think it actually qualifies as a running gag by now, doesn't it? - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 02:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
::::No. I mean... no. Not even close. Sorry. Nope.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::Then what does, if you don't mind my asking? This is the fourth or fifth time there's been a mannequin sculpted out of food. Granted, it's the first time for Strong Bad; the others were Homestar constructed with tofu, as already mentioned. Is it just that it's a different character and food product, now? - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 04:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::ah, but it's only the second kind of this type of thing. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 04:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

== Got Sbemail? ==
I'm wondering. How many times before this has another character besides strong bad refer to the emails he checks as "sbemails"? -[[User:drsandsattwo|the doc]]
:Homestar did it once. He typed 'sbemail.com' in [[anything]]. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 02:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
::No, that was 'sb_enail.com'. {{User:Mee/sig}}
:::Everyone said sbemail [[rock opera]], and Coach Z also said sbemail in [[Accent]]. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 11:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

== Motion Picture Guy ==
Do people think this is a reference to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_LaFontaine ? He is famous for making movie trailers identical in style to the one in this episode. [[User:140.180.173.155|140.180.173.155]] 02:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
:[[TTATOT]] [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 02:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
:Hey just like Alfonzo Cauron and David Yates and Stephen Speilburg and Zach Braff and ... oh... [[TTATOT]].{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
::actually, your examples are directors. you might want to know that lafontaine is the voice behind the trailers, rather than the maker than the movie. his style of voice and announcing is often parody'd. such as in our own strong bad email [[narrator]].
:::As a LaFontaine fan I'm sure you've seen [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLbYaAqtgXg this cute clip]. I named the directors because, well, they are easy to blame right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:31, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

==Deleted Words==

I think they're more of a fadeout than a deletion. It seems like they're a reference to some horror film. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 04:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

== Everybody! Everybody! ==

The inside reference to "Everybody! Everybody!" deserves some mention here. The background music to [[Dancin' Bubs]], as well as the song played in drive thru stereo through the Dancin' Homestar Runner Musical [[Nobot]] from the [[What I Want]] easter egg. Oh, annnd the name of the ensemble poster. Annnnd it can be heard again in [[Intro]]. Any other instances that I've neglected to mention here? At any rate, worthy of mention in the Inside References, no? --[[User:Cardgage Forty Twone|Cardgage Forty Twone]] 08:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

:Well, that ratings screen is a direct reference to [[In Search of the Yello Dello Theatrical Trailer]], so it's only an indirect reference to the [[Intro]]. I'm not sure if it's worthy of a mention here or not... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
::It's not actually mentioned in the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] page at the moment, though. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 08:57, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
:::[[In Search of the Yello Dello#Inside References|Yes it is!]] {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=In_Search_of_the_Yello_Dello&diff=451584&oldid=451567 ;)}} {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

== What up [[g]]? ==

Okay, so Dot com removed the link from:

*Strong Bad uses the correct hand to type each letter in "pfargtl" (using the normal [[wikipedia:QWERTY|QWERTY]] keyboard layout) except for 'g', which should be typed with the left hand, not the right.

because he said it was a coincidence. I say differently. I say, if they went to the trouble to make sure each hand motion was precise, why flub the g? Because there's a running gag with "G" and they KNOW there's people on this wiki with so little time as to check these things. It's very much their style to put in a random, out-of-the-way, hard-to-find reference like this. I say '''link it'''. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
:I think they messed up on 'g' because they wanted to break up the left-right sequence, which otherwise would be RLLLLLR. Or maybe Mike types 'g' with his right hand. Or maybe they just screwed up. This is all speculation, naturally. I don't think, however, that we should link to it simply because we happen to have an article for that letter of the alphabet. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

::I had just typed out the same thing as Dot com (now invisicommented) Both explanations are entirely speculation, and neither one is more provable or reasonable than the other. (too bad, though, because I would like to believe the one you stated) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

==Cottage Cheese==
I added a goof yesterday about Homestar's head not being in front of the speech bubble during the theatrical trailer, and it was removed. Now it's back, but it's a remark. What's the difference between a goof and a remark???--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene

NevaDie — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:30:20 GMT

NevaDie: /*Goofs*/

{{toonnav|Shorts|169lostdvd|An Important Rap Song|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:169lostdvd.PNG|thumb|200px|"What the pfargtl?"]]

DVD-style presentation of a scene deleted from the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[from work]]. Includes commentary from Coach Z and Strong Bad as well as a theatrical trailer, "storyboards" and three scenes deleted from the deleted scene.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[The Office]]

'''Date:''' Monday, April 30, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 1:15

'''Page Title:''' Deleted Scenes have Deleted Scenes?

==Transcripts==
The DVD menu screen shows the wall of Strong Bad's cubicle. The title of the toon along with a doodle of Strong Bad and Coach Z are on a Post-it note at the center. The menu items are scraps of paper attached to the cubicle with thumbtacks. Clockwise from the top left they are "storyboards," "commentary," "deleted scenes #1 #2 #3," and "Theatrical Trailer." In the center is another scrap of paper labeled "Watch the scene!"

===The Scene===
''{Open on Strong Bad typing on the Corpy NT6. The space whale chart from "from work" is on the screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, so where were we? Oh yeah. ''{typing}'' 2% Crudules, 2% ''{unintelligible}''...

''{Vacuum cleaner noise drowns out Strong Bad. Cut to Coach Z vacuuming Strong Bad's cubicle. Strong Bad continues typing and mumbling unintelligibly under the vacuum}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{singing}'' Doe-da-doot doo. Doo. Da-doo-da-doooo.

''{Strong Bad stops typing and Coach Z shuts off the vacuum.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey dere salaried employee.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Auuugh. ''{stares flatly}'' 'Sup, hourly Wage?

'''COACH Z:''' I couldn't help but notice you're checkin' one a yer emails dere. Boy do I have some good ideas for words ta type in an email.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, sorry, I'm not really takin' suggestions right now.

'''COACH Z:''' Aww, dat's too bad. Sure would be unfarchunate if yer boss found out you was checkin' yer Sbemails at work!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{exasperated}'' All right, all right! What do you want me to type?

'''COACH Z:''' Ooh, crap! ''{scratching his head}'' Okay, lessee...

''{Coach Z spells out his word. As he says each letter, Strong Bad types it and it appears superimposed over the bottom of the frame.}''

'''COACH Z:''' P... f... a... r... g... t... l? Is that a word?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{pronouncing each letter as he sounds it out}'' "Pfargtl?"

'''COACH Z:''' Yeah! Is that a word?

''{Strong Bad hits his head on the keyboard, sending the superimposed letters flying.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Does it ''sound'' like a word?

'''COACH Z:''' Well I dunno... I only know a few.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looking up}'' Oh, dan... guh. Dang. Oh dang! I think some customer service rep just puked up her microwave lasagna! You'd better go sprinkle sawdust all over it.

'''COACH Z:''' This is what I live for!!!

''{Coach Z runs off, dragging the vacuum cleaner after him}''

===Commentary===
''{Toon starts}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ya know I just gotta say that workin' with Strong Bad here was a real privilege. This guy's a true consommé professional.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aww, thanks, Coach Z. Working with you was a complete nightmare, and I almost jumped out of several different windows during the making of this scene.

'''COACH Z:''' Yeah, that was classic. Those windows was strong! They were real consommé pr--

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupting}'' All right, shut up. What kind of vacuum was that you were using there?

'''COACH Z:''' Oh that was the "Sook-a-Doox Five-Trousand."

'''STRONG BAD:''' The "Suk-a-Dux Five-Thousand."

'''COACH Z:''' Yup. Hottest market on the money!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Can I get a translator in here?

'''COACH Z:''' This part's my favorite. I got ta improvise! They said I could spell out anything I wanted as long as it was my favorite animal!

'''STRONG BAD:''' But Coach Z, you spelled out "Pfargtl!"

'''COACH Z:''' ''{excited}'' That's right! That's my favorite!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, that's not- that's not an animal.

'''COACH Z:''' Ah, go on... You didn't have a p-family pfargtl growin' up? We kept ours out back by the hose!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I betcha did. You know when I was a kid I always thought that the pile of puke covered in sawdust was ''way'' nastier than just the pile of puke.

'''COACH Z:''' Nat me. Sawdust makes everything delicious.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Auugh, that's it, I'm outta here!

===Deleted Scenes===
====Deleted Scene #1====
'''CAPTION:''' Deleted Scene #1: Originally Coach Z's "Doot-da-do-doo" line was all "Reet-da-dee-dee." Oops, I guess I ruined it for you. Oh, well. Watch it anyway.

''{Cut to Strong Bad's cubicle. Coach Z, Strong Bad, and the vacuum cleaner are there.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{singing}'' A-reet-da-deet-dee. A-da-da-da-deeee!

====Deleted Scene #2====
'''CAPTION:''' Deleted Scene #2: An early draft of the screenplay called for Strong Bad to say, "4% budules," instead of "2% crudules." Oh crap. I ruined it again. Watch it anyway.

''{Cut to Strong Bad typing on the Corpy NT6. The Space Whale chart is on the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, so where were we? ''{typing}'' 4% budules...

====Deleted Scene #3====
'''CAPTION:''' Deleted Scene #3: I'm not gonna say a thing this time.

''{Cut to Strong Bad's cubicle. Homestar Runner is there with a poorly made, cottage cheese-filled mock-up of Strong Bad. The mock-up has a cardboard word balloon reading, "hello, i work hard, and am not stuffed with cottage cheese." The head of the mock-up slowly falls over.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey! What the pfargtl?!

===Theatrical Trailer===
''{Open on a green screen that says the following:}''

<div style="border:0px solid #000; padding: 2em; color: #FFF; background-color: #42CC00; width: 600px; text-align:center">'''THE FOLLOWING <big>PREVIEW</big> HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR''' 
<big>'''EVERYBODY! EVERYBODY!'''</big> 
'''BY THE MOTION PICTURE GUY OF FREE COUNTRY USA'''</div>

'''NARRATOR:''' A scene you were NEVER meant to see...

''{While the narrator speaks, his words are displayed over the space whale with suspenseful type sounds in the background. The word "see" is then deleted from the words on the screen.}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad tapping on his keyboard in slow motion}''

''{Cut back to the space whale.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' A meeting that should have NEVER have taken place...

''{Again, the words appear on the screen, and then "taken place" is deleted.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey there salaried employee.

''{Screen pans right then left as characters talk}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sup, hourly wage?

''{Cut back to the space whale.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' This Summer...

''{The words appear again, and this time "his S" is deleted from the middle.}''

''{Coach Z and Strong Bad talk in the background, then Strong Bad mashes his head on keyboard}''

'''NARRATOR:''' ...watch the deleted scene that will have everyone asking...

''{Cut back to the space whale.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' WTPF?

''{The letters W, T, P and F fly in as the narrator says them, and are joined by a question mark.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What the pfargtl?

'''NARRATOR:''' Strong Bad Email 169: 
the deleted scene

'''COACH Z:''' This is what I live for...

''{Screen goes black with the following web address www.whatthepfargtl.egg at the bottom}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Suk-a-dux 5000.PNG|thumb|"Hottest market on the money!"]]
*In the commentary, click on the vacuum cleaner's handle when Coach Z says "Suk-a-Dux 5000" to see an advert for the vacuum cleaner:
<blockquote style="width: 15em; text-align: center">
the Suk-A-Dux 5000
"HOTTEST MARKET ON THE MONEY!"-COACH Z
</blockquote>

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*Coach Z mispronounces the adjective "consummate," which means "having or revealing supreme mastery or skill."

===Trivia===
*".egg" is not a real [[Wikipedia:List of Internet top-level domains|top-level domain]], meaning that "www.whatthepfargtl.egg" cannot currently be registered. The domain [http://whatthepfargtl.com whatthepfargtl.com] was [http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=whatthepfargtl.com registered] by [[Harmless Junk, Inc.]] on the day this toon was released.

===Goofs===
*On the "Shorts" Toons page, it says "A deleted scene for a delted scene?!" under the description.
*In the third deleted scene, Homestar's head is in front of the speech bubble, but in the theatrical trailer, it is nowhere to be seen.

===Inside References===
*The entire toon is a self-parody of toons such as [[The King of Town DVD]] and [[In Search of the Yello Dello]].
**The ratings screen at the start of the trailer is almost identical to the one at the start of [[In Search of the Yello Dello Theatrical Trailer]].
*The storyboards are presented in the style of a [[Dullard]] comic.
*The .[[egg]] in the URL at the end of the trailer is a reference to Homestar's line in "[[pom pom]]."
*Strong Bad saying "Oh, dan...g" could be a reference to [[Dan]].

===Real-World References===
*The Suk-A-Dux Vacuum may be a reference to the Electrolux brand.

==See Also==
*[[from work]]

==External Links==
*[[hr:169lostdvd.html|watch "Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene"]]
*[[hr:169lostdvd.swf|view the Flash file for "Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene"]]
*[[Forum:11325|Forum thread re: "Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene"]]

[[Category:Shorts]] [[Category:Strong Bad Email]]

Talk:Date Nite

NevaDie — Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:56:51 GMT

NevaDie: /* Title Card */

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== Secret Hot Date ==

Is there a connection between the "secret hot date" Cardboard Marzipan invited the Cheat on and the "hot date" they actually went on? Is the fact that there are fireworks in both of the cartoons relevant? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}
:Might even mention the end of [[do over]] in relation to this too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, there's definitely been a pattern here. also note the "who's making out with marzipan" line from the cheat's theme song. that was probably the first lead in, or whatever --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
Also peculiar that Marzipan doesn't seem to mind The Cheat's small talk about two Ira's, after being annoyed by Homestar's two Sid's in [[date]]. [[User:61.149.38.114|61.149.38.114]] 13:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Well, Homestar was playing a stupid, boring game that she had no hope of winning. The Cheat was actually holding a conversation. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]

== Irony ==

Is it worth mentioning that Strong Bad proposes that they drown the Cheat and Marzipan, but in the end it is Homestar and Strong Bad who are drowned? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}

:That's along the lines of explaining the joke, something not normally done around here unless it's rather obscure. Also, please sign your talk page posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>){{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Public Rage-o flyer ==

The broken glasses could be a play off of the glasses Ira Glass wears. (They look quite similar) Anyone else think so? -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 08:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I thought the same thing. Weird when you see radio people on TV. It's always like "I don't know what I would have expected him to look like, but it just ain't that." {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, the first rule of thumb for all radio personalities is to [[:Image:deadlypallor.png|look]] absolutely nothing like how they sound. =3 {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, forgot we'd already had a lesson on that. Glass actually comes ''close'' to what you'd (I'd) expect him to look like, but just not quite. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Truly, he looks just different enough so as to throw you off. It's like he has his own personal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley uncanny valley] ;¬) -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 15:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== 8-Bit resemblence ==

i'm not suggesting anybody uses this, but does any one else notice any echoes of Black Mage from 8-bit theater in Strong Bad when he's discussing the drowning of Marzipan and the Cheat? especially the "Explain to me how drowning them wouldn't ruin their date" line. it's funny, but that's just me.
--[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:Strong Bad always sounds like that. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]

Heh, that is totally something BM would say. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Mario ==

I obviously thought of Mario when Strong Bad said "Itsa me, the chef-a", but I don't know if it's really that clear. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Mario has a bad Italian accent too, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:One of Mario's catchphrases is "It's-a me! Mario!" I thought of Mario as well. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Stereotypical Italian, probably. I thought it was Mario as well, but an Italian seems more practical. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Shockingly, Mario ''is'' Italian. and we know TBC are nintendo guys, i'd expect them to have had mario in the front of their minds as a role model for a fake-italian accent --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

== Another Reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman ==

The curlers on Coach Z's head and the rolling pin he's holding seems to be another reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman, the other being when he said he was a mom in an easter egg at the end of Sbemail #129 Garage Sale.
:I think it's unwise to assume that Coach is conscientiously pretending to be a woman. Can't TBC just stick him in the cartoon to make a final punchline with no strings attached? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Right now the page suggests that Coach Z is a "mom" in this cartoon. He is clearly displaying characteristics of a woman (certain attitude, curlers, rolling pin), but there is no indication that he is acting like a "mom" (a particular kind of woman). [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 17:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I think he's acting like a wife. I mean, that's just such a classic image in television and movies. I don't know if he's doing it on purpose or if he just has a complex, though. Personally, I was thinking OTP. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]
::::I think he's being portrayed as a mother. Mabye he's actually a girl. We have no way of knowing if he is or not. He may actually be Bubs' mother. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 19:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Going down with the ship ==

Is the fact that Homestar and Strong Bad are singing the national anthem as their 'ship' goes down a reference to anything? It seems familiar to me, but I don't know where from... {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:I thought of [[Wikipedia:RMS Titanic|Titanic]] when I first saw it. The orchestra on the ship continued playing as the ship was sinking. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::I thought of that Looney Toons with Nero and Yosemite Sam as a Roman centurion and the pillar slowly falling while Nero plays Taps on a violin. Maybe something like that inspired them. [[User:Elvis|Uhuh huh. Thankyaveramuch.]] 12:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I think Elvis got it. This "going down with the ship" thing seems very cartoony. Looney Toony. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Okay bear with me a second. I've never actually seen the Hunt for Red October, so I'm getting this from my mom. In order to hijack the Red October and go to America, they took it out on the maiden voyage. The part of the crew that was in on the plot arranged a fake nuclear explosion and forced the rest of the crew off the sub. That part of the crew was standing on an American ship when the fake explosion occurred, and they sang the Russian national anthem while the Red October "sank". I think that's the reference the Brothers Chaps were going for. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]
::Could be that too. You never know for sure what they are thinking. I say we shouldn't try to pinpoint this as a solid reference to anything in particular. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Except they don't sing the anthem as the ship goes down. The Russians stand on the deck of the rescuing American ship, silent and mournfully removing their caps, staring at the sea. They sing it much earlier in the film, when they first engage the [[Wikipedia:Magnetohydrodynamic drive|caterpillar drive]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Rockets ==

In the inside references section it mentions the part in SBIIJC where the bang was all that was needed. Wouldn't the fathoom be necessary in this case, considering without it Homestar and Strong Bad would just blow up? [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 12:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Yea, I noticed the same thing. From what I can tell, they want the fathoom so that they fire towards Marzipan and The Cheat. I'm changing it. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Fundraising weeks ==

How many local NPR stations are having their drives this week? I know it is in Jacksonville, FL.
:Why are you asking this? What relativity does it have to Homestar Runner? Why didn't you sign your post? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Because the Easter egg is about public radio fundraising drives, during the same time that many NPR stations are having fundraising drives. That's why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I didn't read the easter egg. It just seemed really out of the blue. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== FUN Facts. FUN ==
How is this piece of trivia a Fun fact? "Marzipan strokes her right eye with mascara 18 times." I'm pretty sure it isn't. [[User:63.229.175.33|63.229.175.33]] 14:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Good point. I've deleted it- maybe whoever put it there would mind explaining why it's of interest? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 15:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::oh, you know, just in case someone wanted to be able to say that they apply makeup just like marzipan does or something --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

== Squared Circle ==
The Squared Circle is a term used in Professional Wrestling, because unlike the actual sport, where they wrestle within a circle, the entertainment version takes place in a square ring, hence, square instead of circle.

or maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle ?

== Differnet ==
Is it just me, or did this toon seem... I dunno... different than the older ones somehow? Did TBC use a different engine to make it or something?--[[User:Homsar Lover|Homsar Lover]]
:Looks like Flash to me. Maybe they upgraded the program or something. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]

== Marzipan's house ==

I'm pretty sure Homestar and Marzipan live together now. [[User:130.91.36.229|130.91.36.229]] 17:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:DVD Commentary on [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]:
:<blockquote>'''MATT:''' Dude, I don't want to hint at any cohabitation here, okay?</blockquote>
:--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Although they probably don't, alot of things hint at it, such as the "stay home running in place" (Homestar was jogging at Marzy's house) and the "Marzipan, I'm home!" from [[your funeral]]. But, of couse, the above quote dispells all. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad, Nice? ==

Is it just me, or is strong bad being a friend towards homestar? isn't that out of character?
:Strong Bad can be civil when he wants. Besides, they had a common goal. I admit, it was a little 'Bwuh?', though. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]
::The common goal between Homestar and Strong Bad is what made this toon stand out. And quite nicely too. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== A little gay...==

Don't be mad at me or anything, but dosen't it seem the SB and TC are...(ugh). I mean, Homestar was mad at Marzi because she is going out with another man and she is his girlfriend, but SB was mad at TC for the same reason, making TC his...Boyfriend?!? -A little confused, {{User:HeyMama/sig}} 04:32 pm, Tuesday, April 24th.
:Strong Bad 1. Hates Marzipan and B. Is TC's best friend. Of course he's angry. It's Coach Z we should be worried about though :P {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Well, personally, I don't know why that would be worrying. On the other hand, this is really a discussion for the forum.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Good. ==

'Bout time Marzipan got out with someone else. {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 21:28, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
*This is another of those forummy comments. ;) --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's voice ==

Is it just me, or does Strong Sad's voice sound suddenly different? Deeper or something. [[User:Ekul|Ekul]] 21:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Title Card ==
Is this the only toon, other than [[Summer Short Shorts]], that has a title card in it?--[[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] 21:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
*Ummm...what do you mean by Title Card?? --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)