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Club Aquatica Interview - 29 Oct 2003

Mr. Sparkle — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:15:37 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Transcript */

In late 2003, "Dan" of [http://web.archive.org/web/20040926042258/http://www.clubaquatica.net/ clubaquatica.net] (which currently seems be down) interviewed [[Matt Chapman]] about art changes, free time, [[Homeschool Winner]], and much more.
==Transcript==
'''DAN:''' Give me a brief history of how you got started.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Well, we were just looking around in a bookstore in the Children’s book section, and we were kinda bored, we didn’t see anything that we really liked, so we decided to make our own, you know, just as a joke to make fun of Kids’ books. So we wrote The Homestar Runner Enters the Strongest Man in the World contest, and I think that that’s still in the Museum right now.

'''DAN:''' Yeah, it is. ''{Audio starts}''

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, so we just made ten copies of it at Kinko’s and gave it to friends. And that’s how Homestar Runner got started. That’s where it came from initially, we didn’t really do anything with it for like, four years, until we started messing around on the web, and learning flash, and since we already had the characters, we were like, “Hey, let’s try to animate these guys.” So we started doing that, it started out as a hobby, and something to show to our friends, and now we make a living off of it, somehow…. It’s pretty awesome.

'''DAN:''' I have all of your shirts right now, except the Teen Girl Squad shirt, plus a Homestar hoody.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Really? Awesome!

'''DAN:''' Yeah, I’m wearing the Strong Bad Mask shirt right now.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Awesome, thank you for supporting us.

'''DAN:''' Yeah, No Prob. I’m gonna get a Trogdor Hoody.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Oh, well good. We were hoping people would like Trogdor, we thought he’s pretty big.

'''DAN:''' Yeah, next introduce a Homsar Hoodie.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Homsar Hoody? Alright… we’ll think about that one.

'''DAN:''' Okay. The storybook lead to the next question. How did you come up with the idea for Strong Bad and Homestar? I mean, their physiology alone is… strange.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, they’re not quite Human, and they're not quite animal. One of the things that’s never been a conscious thing; They first came up with the idea for the Kids book. And they got “Okay, his name is Homestar Runner-“

'''DAN:''' Now, isn’t that from a friend of yours who said Mark Lemke was the Homestar Runner For the Braves?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Wha? How did you know that?

'''DAN:''' Well, word gets around.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Well Nice work! Yes, that was our friends Jamie Huggins who actually coined the Term Homestar Runner; Winn Dixie was a Grocery Store, and he was making fun of their ad, but he could remember it, it was like, "Mark Lemke: All Star 2nd-Baseman for the Braves!" And he couldn’t remember it, he said, "Mark Lemke: Uh, Home-Star-Runner for the Braves!" And uh, so that’s where that came from. And we figures that his name is Homestar Runner, so he didn’t need arms. He’s a Runner. And since it was a children’s book, it seemed kinda "Hello-Kitty"-ish just making him have no arms. Strong Bad, he was supposed to be a bad guy, and when we were kids, the epitome of a bad guy was masked wrestlers. So then, you know, to put the icing on the cake, we put Boxing gloves on, so it was like was he a boxer or a wrestler? He’s just bad. But it wasn’t until we started animating him that it wasn’t that he wasn’t wearing them, but it was part of his physiology; we had originally planned to eventually put in lips and teeth, but it just turned out way funnier to keep it that way. It evolved just from trying to be weird, but it turns out that Homestar is actually the easiest one to draw, because he doesn’t have arms, like the King of Town or Marzipan. A lot of people think we did that on purpose, but obviously, we didn’t originally plan on animating it.

'''DAN:''' I can tell you from experience that Homestar is pretty easy to draw.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Right, exactly.

'''DAN:''' And I’ve noticed that over time that Homestar gets taller, and Strong Bad gets the lens flare in the eye; was that conscious? At a set time?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' It’s all sorta evolved; It’s not like we say, "Let’s make Homestar look like this next year." It all happens in one day. I think the current one happened in the fluffy commercial is getting his lines wrong. Mike had just drawn HS more angular, not more round in the JJ contest, and we just updated everything else to look like that. So its just that that little flicker looks cooler, and we’re probably going to update it later on down the road, but there’s no real master plan or anything.

'''DAN:''' The Jumping Jack contest and Marshmallow’s Last Stand. Will you rerelease those?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Those will be back on someday. We can’t disclose why they're off, it’s a personal reason. If all goes well, they’ll be back on the site; we’d like to have everything we’ve ever done on the site, and it sucks we had to take them of. They’ll be back on someday.

'''DAN:''' Do you think you’ll make em into DVDs, like Yello Dello and King of Town?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Uh, yeah, that’s hilarious because everyone on the message boards just assumes that we took em down to do that, I don’t know, maybe that’s the sorta thing that if we’re able to put them back up, we’ll do some extra stuff.

'''DAN:''' What do you do in your spare time?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Um, we really don’t have too much. We mostly just hang out with friends. But because we do this for a living and we work at home, it kinda just takes over your life; we’re always messing around with it.

'''DAN:''' But like, When do you start working on the next Strong Bad email or toon?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' We’re actually working on it all week. We’ll check out, like, one or two hundred emails in a sitting, and if one catches our eye, we’ll plot it out kinda, but we really work best with the Strong Bad emails to do it all in one big shot over the weekend. We’d like to have, like, a backlog of Strong Bad emails. So the whole month is done and ready.

'''DAN:''' You know about the Tab button?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, we’re glad that that’s out there, and we don’t hate people who use that, you know, we have the secrets out there, we want people to see them, that’s why we put it there.

'''DAN:''' I just tell my friends to use the tab button to find the funniest parts.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughter}''

'''DAN:''' The ‘O’ thing on the keyboard in Mile, where it shows Strong Bad rolling on the hill, what’s that from? Wasn’t that from an old intro?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, that was an old intro, where it showed Homestar running up the hill, I think that’s still in the Museum. And we just thought that it’d be funny to show The Cheat messing around with our old Flash.

'''DAN:''' That’s Mike impersonating your voices, right?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, and it’s been fun, you know, being able to sit back and let Mike voice as The Cheat does more and more flash. And he does a really funny job of it too.

'''DAN:''' That was great when he said, "Halfway to go, I have to break through this brick wall!"

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' That’s MY favorite line too! There’s just something about the way he says it, it sounds like The Cheat is reading his lines really badly and is screwing up.

'''DAN:''' So in Free Country, it’s actually The Cheat doing the voices?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, and that’s funny ’cos, it’s like, if The Cheat can do that, why can’t he just talk? Well, that’s just not The Cheat’s voice. He speaks The Cheat, he can just do really good impressions.

'''DAN:''' Well, they’re not really good.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughter}''

'''DAN:''' What were you two like as kids? Were you nerdy, or popular? Or on the football team?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Heh, I don’t remember being particularly nerdy or particularly popular, which probably means that we were really nerdy. I don’t know, we fought a lot as kids, but we’ve always done stuff together, like made drawings and comic books and stuff.

'''DAN:''' If there’s an argument, does that mean that there’s no toon that week?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Not really, I mean, we do fight over our personal issues, but it’s rarely over the website. We don’t disagree a lot; we tend to feed on each other.

'''DAN:''' It’d be kinda a waste of an argument, eh?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Exactly.

'''DAN:''' What’s your favorite toon?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' I was a big fan of DANgeresque and Personal Favorites, those were really fun to do. I really liked the Kids’ Book one we did recently.

'''DAN:''' Beth looks like a Dude.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' That she does. And it’s good that those are more recent, and at times we feel that we can’t keep doing them as well as we used to, or that we’re running out of ideas, but those are all pretty new and some of the better ones we’ve done, ever. So, it’s encouraging to do new ones and feel that they’re classics and can stand up to Trogdor or Spring Cleaning.

'''DAN:''' Or The Basics.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Oh, you liked The Basics! Awesome!

'''DAN:''' "You gotta pull out something, not like organs or anything"

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughter}'' Nice.

'''DAN:''' I practiced, thank you. What’s the theme for this year’s Halloween toon?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' We’re in the midst of finishing it; we’re aiming to beat Charlie Brown, which comes on at eight, I think, and we’re trying to get it up before then. We’re actually putting the finishing touches on it right now. It sorta centers around Marzipan; She’s trying to contact a dearly departed by having a séance with Strong Sad. It all revolves around that, really. You’ll see.

'''DAN:''' You have any pets?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, in the Website email, you see there’s a picture of a cat on a football, and that’s my cat, Mable.

'''DAN:''' Aww, she’s pretty cute.
So how did you make the puppet’s thing? Was that kinda spur of the moment?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' We have a friend who used to work for the Center of Puppetry arts in Atlanta, and he’s really talented, so we became friends with this guy, we just asked him, “Could we hire you to make us some puppets?” And he made that Homestar one. And we were pleased, and we just wanted to do something with it, and we had never done any video on the site, so we gave it a shot. And it was really fun and we’re hoping to do more video stuff in the future so..

'''DAN:''' Wasn’t that a The Cheat Plushy?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' That is, yes, those are in production overseas, those were prototypes. We were hoping they’d be done by Christmas, but we’re thinking February, but they won’t be, because they have to come over on a big boat and all that junk.
They’re going to be called, "'Kick The Cheat' The Cheat," and when you kick him, he makes one of four sounds. So the whole point is that you kick The Cheat and he squeals.

'''DAN:''' That’s gonna rule. I’ve always wanted to kick the Cheat.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' And it’s great ‘cos he’s about life size, like he’s about a foot tall. So it’s like you’ve got your own little The Cheat there with you.

'''DAN:''' The only problem is that he doesn’t translate too well into 3D. You know, he’s got the eyes on one side, like Homestar.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Well, we realized that when we made the action figures, but he’s still pretty cuddly as a 3D plush doll. He’s like a flounder, you know? They only have eyes on one side.

'''DAN:''' I watched the G4 special and the guys at Homestar Rules Message boards noticed there was like, a The Cheat Statue or Cookie Jar behind Mike. Was that real?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' I think I know what you’re talking about. Yeah, that was just a The Cheat plushy. The lighting was funky, so it may have looked it, but uh no, there’s no The Cheat *heh* cookie jar or anything.

'''DAN:''' So what was it like to be on G4?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Oh, it was awesome! It just so happens that I went to film school with this girl who works at G4. And they wanted to do a show on someone in the Southeast, and one of the guys there was like, "I think Homestar Runner is from the Southeast," so she was like "Homestar Runner?" And she went to the website and was like, "Mike and Matt Chapman? I know those guys!" So she got us. It was really cool, obviously, we like video games a lot, we watch G4 a lot because they play Starcade.

'''DAN:''' I loved that show when I was, like, 10 or 11.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' They were all really nice and it was all pretty cool. It was fun. It was our first TV publicity.

'''DAN:''' The Cheat’s playing a Casio in the Puppet thing. Is that what you play?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, that’s where all of those cheesy tunes on the site come from. We have, like, a stack of five old Casios and almost all the music on the site comes from those.

'''DAN:''' They’re really not half bad; for what you’re working with, you do a pretty good job.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Well, Thank you. It lends itself that it’s sorta video-gamey; it’s in the vein we created.

'''DAN:''' How much control do you have over what you sell?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' We have total control. We can keep whatever is selling well on there. And if we take stuff down, it’s because it wasn’t selling [well] or don’t want to sell anymore. We try to make it so that we’re only selling stuff that we think is cool or that we would buy ourselves.

'''DAN:''' Besides the Strong Sad shirts, what stuff do you think will make a comeback? Like, the coasters or tattoos?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' There’s stuff like that but we wish we could make them cooler than just some one sided coasters, so we won’t bring them back like they were, at least. But um, you probably wouldn’t care, but I think that we’re going to redo the Marzipan shirts, because the ladies have been demanding them.

'''DAN:''' It said late October.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, but that’s not going to happen. We’ve been a lot busier than we thought we’d be.

'''DAN:''' Personally, I don’t mind.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Okay, well that’s good. Mike designs them all, like I mean, we both conceptualize the designs, but Mike usually ends up doing the actual shirt designs.

'''DAN:''' So like the Homsar shirt was him?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yep.

'''DAN:''' Raised by a Cup of Coffee.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' We actually had little emblems for all of them. Song from Sixties, Pride of Peaches, and Raised by a Cup of Coffee. We were going to do luck of the draw, but then we thought people might complain, “I wanted this one!”
We figured no one would complain about raised by a cup of coffee.

'''DAN:''' Everyone likes that. In fact, Homsar was actually my first purchase. I was going to buy Trogdor, but then I thought that Homsar was funnier.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Awesome.

'''DAN:''' A lot of us back at the forums would love to see a Coach Z, Bubs, or Marshie shirt. Anything in the works?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Bubs is probably the next shirt you’ll see. And I’m glad to hear that Marshie is in Demand. We wanted to do a Marshie shirt, but we weren’t sure how much of a mass appeal Marshie has. But we really want to make a Poopsmith shirt.

'''DAN:''' I never have been much of a fan of the Poopsmith or the King of Town, because they’re both pretty clichéd and don’t have much personality.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' That’s kinda their point, that’s why we don’t use them too much.

'''DAN:''' So the Poopsmith is the Bathroom joke personified?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, he’s just embodied into one character.

'''DAN:''' What about the Coach Z shirt?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' You tell me, we can’t decide whether we want a green shirt with just the “Z” medallion on it or if people would rather have a picture of Coach Z on it.

'''DAN:''' We were thinking you could put Coach Z swinging his whistle around, and on the back, there could be the medallion or, "Great Jaerb!", or just homestarrunner.com.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' From now on, I think we may try, depending on what the shirt is, do not just a URL, but like, with the Bubs shirt, we could do something like "Come on By, we’re always offin’!"

'''DAN:''' I always thought "D for Sale" would go nicely.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' That’s a good idea. Glad you caught that joke. That’s one of my favorites; I just flipped that in there when we were doing the flash.

'''DAN:''' I though that was really funny. My friend Richie says he won’t buy a Strong Sad shirt until it says "I Don’t Like Food Anymore" on the back.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughter}'' That’s funny, because we were actually talking about making a shirt like that.

'''DAN:''' That’d be great! That’d sell!

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' We weren’t quite sure, because that’s a really new quote, we weren’t sure if people considered that to be a good Strong Sad quote or not.

'''DAN:''' Everybody loves that one.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' The next you’ll actually see will be the CD. It’s done and it should be up in the next week or two, actually.

'''DAN:''' I was going to ask you when you were planning to release [the CD] and the DVD.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' The DVD actually has become a way bigger project than we thought, and it’s still happening, it’s just become a lot more work, so that definitely won’t be until 2004. But the CD will definitely be up before Christmas.

'''DAN:''' What’ll be on the DVD? Will it be all SB emails on one DVD and all the toons on another?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Eventually, yeah, that’s the way it’ll work out. Actually, the Strong Bad emails are too big for one DVD.

'''DAN:''' Whoa.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' You can’t even fit them on one DVD. So there may be Strong Bad emails Volume One and two. And we came up with a really cool way of incorporating all of the Easter Eggs, so no Easter Egg will be left off. And we’re adding, you know, a bunch of new extra stuff.

'''DAN:''' Excellent. That sounds awesome.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, we’re pretty excited. We hope people dig it. And then the CD; we worked with a local band and it’s probably half classic songs from the site that we rerecorded and expanded, and half brand new stuff.

'''DAN:''' Everyone wants to hear, "One time I saw Homestar punch a kitten in the throat."

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' ''{Laughter}'' No, that didn’t make it.

'''DAN:''' Aw, man.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' There’s a plan that we’re actually going to do in addition to what’s on the CD, we’re probably going to a bunch of other songs that are free for download on the site, and I’ll have to put that suggestion. And that one was one that didn’t quite make the cut.

'''DAN:''' I noticed that you changed it from 1800BADSONG to 1800SBSINGS was that because BADSONG was already taken.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, some limousine service in NYC or something, and never paid attention to the fact that it was actually a valid phone number. Nobody actually asked us, but we got fans telling us, "Hey, I called that thing and some dude yelled at me."

'''DAN:''' Why would they call when they know it’s not real?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Dunno.

'''DAN:''' Is Marzipan really the King of Town’s daughter?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' No, that’s a horrible rumor.

'''DAN:''' It’s just that it said that on the old characters menu.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT!

'''DAN:''' ''{laughter}'' So that idea was abandoned?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, exactly, that was just something that we just toyed around with there briefly, but then decided that’s not the way we wanted it to go. We just put that up, but most people don’t visit the Museum, so hopefully it doesn’t cause too much mass confusion.

'''DAN:''' Now why do you always dress Homestar up as a rock star? Or is that even conscious?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' No, it’s just that so far he’s been some kind of meter or figurehead, Curt Cobain was a lead singer of a big rock group, Angus Young is the first thing you think of when you think of AC/DC, and uh…

'''DAN:''' Greatest American Hero.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Greatest American Hero is obvious. This year he’s not a rock star. You’ll just have to wait and see.

'''DAN:''' What are the two characters in the back of the Bubs DANcer? There’s Strong Glad and Homeschool.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Not sure who Strong Glad is. We never made her, but there is Homeschool Winner, who was a joke character. Early on, one of our friends didn’t know what the website was called and she’s like, "What’s your website? HomeschoolWinner.com?"

'''DAN:''' How about a sample of what Homeschool would sound like?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Oh, I don’t even know. We always thought he’d be a big nerd, so just imagine a generic nerd voice, with maybe a creepy edge to him. ''{in background}'' Yes Mike? ''{inaudible speech, returns to foreground}'' Oh, that’s right. There is Strong Glad. Mike just pointed out in one of the sketchbooks, from the Museum; there is a Strong Glad in with the Strong Sad, with like, Yello Dello legs, sexy lady legs. So yeah, I lied to you there.

'''DAN :''' ''{As Bubs}'' Liar!

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughter}''

'''DAN:''' Have you ever had any encounters with fans on the street?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Not really. It’s not like people recognize us, who we are, really, I mean, there is the G4 thing, but we’re not really striking, you know. But we have had people here and there were they knew that the people from Homestar Runner would be there, and everybody was really cool, but it can be a little overwhelming sometimes, it’s just me and my brother, it’s not like you’re in a rock band where you see the crowd every night when you play a show and stuff.

'''DAN:''' Well, maybe not in that respect but it has grown tremendously.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Well, I mean, that’s the thing where we get a lot of emails and such, but that’s kinda all you see. But it’s really cool to see and meet people in person. And it’s really, just over this summer, last summer (2003) when we first started to meet people in person. But it’s been really cool.

'''DAN:''' But even here in Indiana, I’d say one in every seven people have at least heard of Homestar Runner.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' That’s where we’re from you know.

'''DAN:''' Whoa, really?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, we’re born Hoosiers.

'''DAN:''' Really?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, we grew up in Indianapolis.

'''DAN:''' I live in Carmel, which is a little north.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, we actually have some friends that are from Carmel who live down here. One of the guys from the band that we worked on with the CD is from Carmel. All of the guys in that band graduated from I.U. (Indiana University).

'''DAN:''' My brothers at I.U. right now.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Oh, okay.

''{akward pause}''

'''DAN:''' Any plans to go mainstream? Like you guys were talking about maybe a Charlie Brown-like special.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' That would be ideal. We just don’t want a TV show; it seems like so many things on TV get ruined when you commercialize it or put it in mainstream. We’re as mainstream as I ever thought we’d be. I mean, the idea that some kid from Indiana is calling me, knowing what my site is is more mainstream than I ever thought we’d be. It’s gone way beyond anything we thought it could. The Charlie Brown thing is always something we’ve liked, and if we had to, that’s what we’d do for a TV special. We’re not going to go out and try to do it though. We’ll do stuff like make cool toys and stuff and start putting stuff on the DVD; so no real plans to go mainstream, no. Because everything gets ruined when it does that.

'''DAN:''' You turned down the Adult swim thing?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughter}'' No, that’s hilarious, because we know people who work there, and no one has ever asked us anything about a TV show, and it’s funny that someone from Adult Swim claims that they approached us and we said no, I even read that somewhere, no one from Cartoon Network has ever asked us about that.

'''DAN:''' A lot of people from the Forums have suggested that Homestar become a TV show, but all of the older members say, no it’d get ruined. Frankly, I’d have to agree because I don’t want to see Homestar sold in Hot Topic or the DVD in Best Buy. Your sentiments?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, exactly. I just sorta bastardizes it and give it the wrong feeling. It’s not that we always have to be underground, it’s just that I don’t have any interest in people being able to go to a mall and buy stuff from our website. It’s like, just go to our website and if you don’t like ordering thing online, then don’t worry about it. I think it takes the older crowd to understand that. The little ones just want it to be... SpongeBob.

'''DAN:''' ''{shudders}'' Yeah, I know. I have several ideas that aren’t really T-shirts, like CGNU basketball jerseys.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Whoa, that’s pretty cool.

'''DAN:''' I was thinking it could say, like, "Dumple" on the front, and maybe "Homestar" in college print and a star for his number.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Those’d sell well up there in basketball country.

'''DAN:''' Yeah It’s a basketball hotbed up here.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Exactly.

'''DAN:''' And Homestar Runner polo shirts. Like the patches from the hats could be sewn onto the polo shirts.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' We don’t wear polos, and we don’t really want to sell anything that we wouldn’t wear. Because white-collar working guys just want to wear Homestar to casual Friday, and so there’d probably be people who’d buy ‘em. If we did make polos, it’d probably be ThoraxCorp or Videlectrix.

'''DAN:''' I just revisited ThoraxCorp, and I thought it was alright last time, but this time I found it absolutely hilarious. Like everyone’s faces are blanked out in one way or another.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' I was bored, I made that site like, three years ago, and I made it in a week, and it was just something to show to my friend at work. But we started linking to it from the website, and I guess more people saw it so…

'''DAN:''' I thought it was pretty funny. How about a 20X6 full length toon?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, there’s one in the works right now. So stay tuned. Maybe something in 3 parts.

'''DAN:''' When’s your next full length toon going to be?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' There are two in production, but I’m not going to say anything yet for fear of I don’t keep my word, and we’re always way too busy so…

'''DAN:''' I always wondered that since Marzipan answering machines can’t take too long, why don’t you make more?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Well, yeah, but there’s only so many SB prank calls you can make, and we don’t want it to get old. It would just get burnt out way quicker than Strong Bad emails.

'''DAN:''' There’s always a new email, but not always a new conversation or prank call.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Exactly

'''DAN:''' Do you watch a lot of TV? Like Seinfeld or Friends?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' We watch not a lot of TV, Mike had been watching a lot of Hangtime and Saved by the Bell, a lot of those old Crappy TeenNBC shows.

'''DAN:''' Saved by the Bell. Heh.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' But we watch a lot of stuff like Seinfeld and Simpsons and Friends.

'''DAN:''' I’m a pretty big Seinfeld fan.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' That’s a good program.

'''DAN:''' How’s Strong Bad type with Boxing gloves?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Oh, why you little!

'''DAN:''' You knew it was coming.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, it’s inevitable.

'''DAN:''' Can I go ahead and ask an email while I’m on the phone with you?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughter}'' Alright, but I can’t make you any guarantees, just because you’re delivering it in person.

'''DAN:''' How’s The Cheat type with Flippers?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Alright, How does The Cheat type with Flippers? I’ll just write that under the The Cheat pumpkin stencil here…

'''DAN:''' How many emails does Strong Bad get every day?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' ...Mike says that The Cheat does not have flippers, he clearly has nubs.

'''DAN:''' Alright, then how’s he type with nubs?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughter, quotes from Mike:}'' Yeah, Bubs has flippers more than The Cheat.

'''DAN:''' Yeah. ''{Chuckle}''

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Strong Bad gets a ridiculous amount of email, like Strong Bad gets between 5000-8000 a day.

'''DAN:''' ''{incredulously}'' 5000-8000?!

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' We had to put a cap on it because we were getting too much and it was crashing the mail server. And a lot of it’s crap to, you know like it’s a public address, and if people have to put there email address in, they put Strong Bad in. There are a lot of emails in there that are to Strong Bad and there are a lot of emails that are crap.

'''DAN:''' So that’s 40,000 emails a week. How can you possibly sort through that?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' We can’t. That’s what I’m saying. We go through several hundred every time we sit down to go through them. But that’s only scratching the tip of the iceberg.

'''DAN:''' What about really long emails?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' No, that’s generally a no-no. We’ll edit emails that were too long that got to the point already. But if it’s like four or five sentences, then when you’re staring at 40,000 emails per week, you kinda just move on to the next one. Here’s a little inside secret: we may do something like "How to not get your email picked." We may put it on the website, or the DVD, or both. We think that what we put in the emails is enough though. Like, obviously don’t ask him how he types with boxing gloves...

'''DAN:''' Don’t call him Stong Bad.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''DAN:''' Stong Bad. ''{chuckle}''

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' But people don’t seem to get the message. Usually if Strong Bad answers an email one week, then the next week everyone is like, "Hey Strong Bad, why don’t you do another Monster Truck show?" or, "Why don’t you Do a BMX show?" or, "I liked your Monster Truck show, why don’t you do... something like a Monster Truck show?"

'''DAN:''' So no repeats?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Well, it’s just pointless. I mean, we’ve already done it. It’s fine, we’re glad you like it, but it’s just that we’re not going to do another one two weeks in a row.

'''DAN:''' You think you might come out with a 1936 shirt?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' We always wanted to, we never know if people would dig it or not. We love it, but it seems like the little kids just don’t get it.

'''DAN:''' Well, I’m not a huge fan of 1936 toons, I liked "It’s the Sneak," but, I would still buy a 1936 shirt.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Good, because we figured we could do a shirt with the whole gang, because it’d only be, like, four colors, because it’s all gray and black and white.

'''DAN:''' Is there a 1936 version of Coach Z or KOT or Poopsmith?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yes, there’s definitely Coach Z, he’s the football player in the Ballad of the Sneak. And the King of Town, he’s the Kaizer, and he’s the Devil, and the Poopsmith has just shown up as a little demon so far. But those aren’t the official 1936 versions.

'''DAN:''' So it’s like: They look like them and you had them in mind when you made them, but they’re not the official counterparts?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, exactly. I mean, maybe they’ll be official versions and maybe we won’t even bother.

'''DAN:''' Is Pan-Pan supposed to be Pom-Pom?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yes. But I mean, for the 20X6 version, it’s not like there’s going to be a doppelganger for every character, but yeah, Pan-Pan is supposed to be Pom-Pom

'''DAN:''' Guess that’s it for now.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Awesome, alright, well, we’re going to get this new toon up, keep checking back tonight for updates.

'''DAN:''' You bet.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Take it easy, DAN.

'''DAN:''' Thanks, bye.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Bye.

==External Links==
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20041112050031/http://www.clubaquatica.net/Interviews/matttranscript_2.htm Read the Club Aquatica interview] (mirror)
[[Category:Interviews and Public Appearances]]

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Mr. Sparkle — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:36:26 GMT

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User talk:Mr. Sparkle

Mr. Sparkle — Fri, 06 May 2005 00:26:20 GMT

Mr. Sparkle:

Vote for me 2005!--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 11:34, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Whoa the Wikipedia toolbar works with the HRWiki! --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 00:26, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:April 2005 Sysop Nominations

Mr. Sparkle — Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:11:48 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* ModestlyHotGirl */

The Homestar Runner Wiki is now accepting nominations for new [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysops]].

Please note that these are just nominations. Any final decision will be made by The Admin Team.

This is not a vote. This is not a popularity contest. Do not get rowdy. Do not get your hopes up.

Please use the following format for making nominations:

===[[User:Tom|Tom]]===
I nominate Tom. He's a cool guy.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I agree. Tom is the coolest.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I also agree. Tom is quite cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I disagree. Tom is not as cool as you think.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I would only like to comment that Tom is in fact the coolest, but I do not believe this reflects on his ability as a sysop.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I believe Tom should get me a danish. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 06:04, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you,
[[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]], [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]], [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]], [[User:Stu|Stu]], and [[User:Tom|Tom]] 
'''The Homestar Runner Wiki Administration Team'''

__TOC__



==The Nominees==

===[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]]===
I nominate T Bird. He seems to be on the ball [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 05:47, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I concur. Both of the birds seem to have their acts in the game. In fact, when I first joined I sorta thought they WERE sysops. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:47, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Wait... this isn't STUFF. Oh well. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''2nd''' Great wiki user. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
***'''3rd'''. Thunderbird would be a great sysop. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**He and FireBird would make great sysops. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]]
*'''Definitely Yes.''' I appreciate Thunderbird's work on the Wiki, and just like Jay, I thought they were sysops when I joined. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 20:46, 19 Apr 2005 (CDT)
*'''Agree'd''' He would do fine. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 11:39, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Nominat'd!''' Tbird's pretty awesome and stuff. -- [[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]]
*'''Second''' — Thunderbird has been a great supporter of the wiki. [[User:JoeyDay|<nowiki></nowiki>]] —[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] [[User talk:JoeyDay|(Talk)]] 01:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' —[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]] 04:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]===
I also nominate F Bird for Sysop. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 05:47, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Again, '''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:47, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Also Second''' I really can't decide, but both of them would be great choices. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:59, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**He and Thunderbird would make great sysops. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 11:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' He seems to hate absolutely every page I create, even if a sysop recommended the page.[[User:Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]] 15:54, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''first''' I really think he would be kewl to be the sysops.
*'''Decline.''' Something about FireBird rubs me the wrong way. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 20:47, 19 Apr 2005 (CDT)
*'''Accept''' I think Firebird has consistently good judgement. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 04:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Agreed''' Both him and T-Bird are fine by me, but if only one of them could be sysop, I'd rather have Firebird. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 11:39, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' While ThunderBird made alot of important pages (which are all '''very''' good), FireBird handels trolls vary well. Sysop need to monitor the wiki, and FireBird does it in an exelent way. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I worked with Firebird on a page, he's a pretty smart person, knew what he was doing making the page, knew the stuff about Homestarrunner page, too. --Strongbaditude
*'''Second''' — Firebird has been a consistent contributor. [[User:JoeyDay|<nowiki></nowiki>]] —[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] [[User talk:JoeyDay|(Talk)]] 01:53, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' —[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]] 04:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[User:Jay|Jay]]===
I dont know if he's already a sysop, but if hes not, he seems to be on the ball. I nominate [[User:Jay|Jay]]. --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 15:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:When I first met him I thought he was by how he acted. Nominate'd! - [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:53, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Jay is a great contributor to this wiki. He'd make a perfect sysop. —[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]] 19:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Definately. He's made tons of contributions.[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
*Second'd - I like what he's done with regards to STUFFing (but then, that's pretty much all I work on anyways). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**And theres nothing wrong with that! Its mostly where I spend my time.--[[User:-erson|<nowiki>Posted by </nowiki>-erson]] 01:03, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I agree. Jay would be awesome. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*Yes sir Jay for Sysop [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 04:26, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I most definately think that Jay would be a good choice. -From an annonymous semi-contributor
*Jay=the man. He'd make a great sysop.
*'''Second.''' I think he cares about the Wiki. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:06, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. Though we don't always agree on STUFF, Jay seems to know what he's doing around here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:37, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Jay seems to have a bit of an attitude. Not good if you become a sysop. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 20:42, 19 Apr 2005 (CDT)

===[[User:daunrealist|Daunrealist]]===
I would have to go with daunrealist. He's always trying to help out the wiki community. Really. [[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]]
*Um... are you allow'd to do that (besides Tom)? [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
**I doubt it's hurting anything, since it's the mods who make the final call in the end. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***It's not. But this might be a long page if you can nominate yourself. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
* Neutral. I haven't seen you do too much when it comes to contributing. Maybe it's just me. Yeah, it's probably just me. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 13:09, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I haven't seen you do much, either. It isn't just you, Joshua. EDIT 18:13, 20 Apr 2005 (CDT): I'll quote you, daunrealist: Write a transcript or something. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 20:43, 19 Apr 2005 (CDT)

===[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]===
He's made tons of contributions here, as well as to the fansuff. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
:Second [[User:216.120.190.30|216.120.190.30]]

===[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]===

From what Ive seen of his work, [[User:The Paper|The Paper]] is a great contributer. But I'm not on ehough to be completely sure. What do you think--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson]] 18:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I'd say that too. He's a great contributor, and he IS a great admin on Strongfans.com. He has the smarts to be a sysop, too. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 22:28, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Sysop = Very Yes''' T-The-P has shown very good judgement and has a sound collection of solid edits. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 04:17, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Paper and the Admins, together at last!''' <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 10:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Seems like a decent admin can be found here. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 11:39, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Second.''' —[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]] 02:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[User:Shopiom|Shopiom]]===

I nominate Shopiom for sysop. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 20:50, 19 Apr 2005 (CDT)

===[[User:furrykef|furrykef]]===
furrykef's awesome. furrykef's weird. furrykef's awesome and furrykef's weird. And I'll never forget the way it was, grrrl! - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 04:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

EDIT: I submitted this one half-jokingly (I know nobody else would have nominated me since I've been so inactive lately anyway), but I ''am'' probably qualified for the job because I've long been a sysop at Wikibooks, nearly have a lock on sysophood at Wikipedia (they're [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Requests for adminship|still voting]] at this time but it looks like, to my surprise, I'm a shoe-in), run my own Wikicity called [http://games.wikicities.com/ gameinfo], etc. So vote for me if you wanna. But I'm probably not actually gonna care much either way. :P - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 12:38, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Second.''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 05:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''I Second that Second.''' [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 14:33, 20 Apr 2005 (CDT)

*'''Super Second''' —[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]] 13:46, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Second''' — I've wanted furrykef on the sysop staff for a while but haven't seen him around here. If he's up to it, he'd be a great sysop. [[User:JoeyDay|<nowiki></nowiki>]] —[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] [[User talk:JoeyDay|(Talk)]] 01:46, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
** Oh, I'm around, just not often ''around''. An e-mail or a post on my Wikipedia talk page or something is bound to get my attention. And I do hang out from time to time. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 04:18, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]]===

I've been around for a while, and I think I would make a good sysop. Seriously. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 23:52, 19 Apr 2005 (CDT)
*While I have seen you, and I know you've been here a while, unfortunately I do not believe your contributions reflect that of an admin. <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 10:46, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I agree with -erson. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**Write a transcript or something. [[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]]
***I was trying to, for [[radio]] when it came out, but somebody else had already done it by the time I had finished it. So don't tell me I've never done a transcript. Haven't I said enough times that I was the person who linked to [[radio]] on the Strong Bad Emails page? --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 18:07, 20 Apr 2005 (CDT)
::::It's not his fault. I've wanted to do transcripts a lot but by the time I get home from school to watch the cartoon the wiki page is basically done. So, '''accept'''. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

===[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]===

Thirdly and lastly, I nominate Kilroy. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 14:41, 20 Apr 2005 (CDT) 

:Possibly my #1 choice. Keep it up. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

'''Second''' Yay!!! Kilroy for sysop! [[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds|Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]]

*'''Yes''' Kilroy is a solid ever-present contributor [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 00:53, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]]===

I nominate ModestlyHotGirl,1. shes a person with a state of mind that is more stable than anyone else i have ever met. 2. she can get you to understand other people's point of veiws. 3. nicest person i ever met, she's helped me through alot of binds and showed me the way.......of what i cant remember, but shed be great as a Sysop. MHG , out!
--[[User:Modestly Hot Guy]]--

'''Decline''' She may be big at the forums, but she doesn't seem to do much here. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:56, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 11:11, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' for the same reason as Joshua. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:20, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)

User talk:Mr. Sparkle

Mr. Sparkle — Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:34:00 GMT

Mr. Sparkle:

Vote for me 2005!--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 11:34, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Mr. Sparkle — Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:26:59 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Things are lookin' up! */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[Under Construction]]===
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

''[[Talk:trevor the vampire|Archived]] on 19 Apr 2005 by [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]]

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.
*'''Decline''' I have trouble saying why, but I know there's something wrong with this. Be it that it's part of the haiku, or something else, I don't think this really needs to be stated. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''So cool a Decline, I thought I would Second it.''' This is a parody of the [http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_KLEZ.H&VSect=T Klez] email virus that used the infamous subject line "so cool a flash,enjoy it". It's not meant to imply that Strong Bad has actually read the email beforehand. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 08:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*** That's it. Thanks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 08:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**''''Eh, Decline!''' This is seriously a Klez spoof. I even received a Klez email, and it gave my old computer a virus. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:05, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.
*'''Decline.''' I figure the reference is most likely to Oolong, the traditional Chinese tea enjoyed throughout Asia. The characters mentioned here are named after the tea. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 07:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Always decline TTATO facts! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I would second this if I knew what TTATO stood for. (Second is NOT my vote) [[User:Fizz123|Stave it off, Fizz123, and now you can count to three.]]
**'''Decline.''' TTATO actually is supposed to be spelled TTATOT, and stands for "This, That, And That Other Thing." -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:34, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*May be '''declined''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*There's already a section for [[rampage]]. Put this in there. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

''[[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show|Archived]] 19 Apr 2005 by [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]]''

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Ironically, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.fredastaire.net/music/lyrics/thingsarelookingup.htm link] to the lyrics. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Yea, it's the line "Oh I'm happy as a pup since love looked up at me." But...not that Lil' Brudder's in love or anything...[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Close, but Decline.''' It's just an optimism from someone who has no reason to be optimistic. I doubt that the song popularized the phrase, even if it's old. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's De Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE'D''' It's a far stretch.--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 11:26, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[impression]]===
====What year is it?====

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.

'''VERDICT:''' This goof has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:impression]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16 Apr 2005
*'''ATTENTION GafAddict and Upset Your Balance and any other VERIDCTers''' - The standard voting period is 2 weeks. Please do not close any items that are newer than that that. In other words, check the first vote, if it's less than two weeks old, DON'T TOUCH IT! Also, if you're going to VERDICT an item, please sign your name and date as though you were signing a vote (two hyphens and four tildes)
**'''I think this one is a special case.''' It was STUFFed based on a false assumption. But I didn't VERDICT it, so... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***GafAddict did a few a day or so ago, and I've seen others get VERDICT'd well before the two week period. Also, whoever does it needs to sign it, so I figured I'd post it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*I have added my name and the date to the verdict. (Yes, it was me.) I'm not sure of the exact time of the verdicting though. And as Jay said, because it was STUFFed based on a false assumption, I put it back and verdicted it early. For other STUFF'd items, the VERDICT shall wait two weeks. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.
*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I think not.''' Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:42, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*"I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be '''accepted!'''" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the ''context'' of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' The Istanbul song is NOT originally TMBG. My google search says it was written in 1953, and it was reasonably popular before TMBG came along.
**'''Comment.''' He comes the [http://www.songlyrics.com/song-lyrics/Four_Lads/Miscellaneous/Istanbul_(not_Constantinople)/147257.html link]! Istanbul (Not Constantinople). Artists: The Four Lads ... peak Billboard position # 10 in 1953 ... Words by Jimmy Kennedy and Music by Nat Simon -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***The question isn't whether TMBG wrote the song (a ''lot'' of cover versions of songs are as popular as or more popular than their original versions, so this too is beside the point), but whether Istanbul is a reasonable reference to TMBG, and if so whether TBC might reasonably be referencing them by choosing Istanbul. On close calls like this, where the two parties have a known relationship and were demonstrably collaborating at the time, is the standard of proof ''really'' "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt|beyond a reasonable doubt]]," or would a "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Balance_of_probabilities|preponderance of the evidence]]" standard apply? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Discount Flashback Warehouse====
In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.
*'''Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants...''' Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster''': After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad ''talks'' like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact '''rephrased:''' In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
*Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? '''Decriminoted (decline).'''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's whay I'm basing the whole thing on.
*'''Decline''' Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of [[theme park]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Comment''' One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of tv.
**SIGN YOUR VOTES! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***"Comment" is not a vote. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* '''D3kl1n3!!''' I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man!''' Um, its also a second with kerrek slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before [[Senor Mortgage]]. Check yer facts, folks. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster:''' Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
**'''Note on the characters:''' Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who ''resembles'' Senor Cardgage. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

'''Verdict:''' After only one week of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly and unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:replacement]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

'''VERDICT:''' This information has been '''moved''' to the [[DELETED]] page. The votes have been moved to [[Talk:spring cleaning]]

===[[rampage]]===

====Poetic chops====
Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochee trochees]), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).

*'''Decline.''' I agree with what you're saying. Also, it's not much of a rampage to be reciting at a rate of 2 syllables per second. However, I don't think anyone learns anything from this fun fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait a '''Second!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny that Strong Sad has to artificially make trochees into iambs, but maybe I'm just a nerd. Anyway, I'm sure not everyone will know this, so accept! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Sign yer vote!
**'''Weak Second to a Strong Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third the Nerd''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''seconding the third''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''seconding the seconding of the third of the...whatever. I agree.''' [[user:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
****'''20x6ing the 1936''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''''
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:56, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
**'''Comment''' There is already a similar fun fact on the page.
*Great jorb!
** Uh... is that a vote? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Absolutely not the case!''' I see what you're saying, but it's not the case. It's just the way he did it to the beat...you wouldn't pronounce it the same if you're doing it to a beat.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** Well, this is two unrelated things, and (if it's true) exactly one of them is it, but we don't know which. Not EXACTLY the same thing as my usual "this that and the other thing" complaint -- ''but'' -- it's too much of a stretch in either case without some extra info, so I do have to agree with '''Decline'''-ing it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Barkley and Ruben don't even look alike, much less Strong Sad. 20:52, --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment.''' A little Googling shows that [http://www.luma-electronic.cz/lp/p/Kenny/price_k_walking.htm Kenny Price] was the first Round Mound of Sound, way back in 1969. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Is the SB's insult of the "Round Mound of [something that rhymes with round and mound]" type? Of course it is. Is it notable? Given that the reference has been around for at least 36 years, probably not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:58, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad is round, a mound, gray, and fat. The only thing Strong Bad's insult is a reference to is Strong Sad's appearance. Can you streeeeeeeeetch? -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Round Mound of Decline''' Does "Gray Fatness" rhyme with "Round" and "Mound?" [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Rewrite''' it into something a bit more streamlined. Something like: "'Round Mound of Fatness' is a reference to other characters such as Kenny Price, the 'Round Mound of Sound', and Charles Barkely, the 'Round Mound of Rebound'". I like this Fun Fact, though.

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Now then, if he was being called "DJ Dazzy Dump", I'd agree that it might also be a reference to jazzy jeff. But that's not what's going on here. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Humpty Hump is a fairly clear reference, I think.
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' Ditch DJ Jazzy Jeff and Doug E. Doug.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' First thing I thought of was Jazzy Jeff... Then again, I'm rap-ly challenged. Humpty Hump for sure. [[User:SP|SP]]

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline. White is the color of his face. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' based on the fact that it's common household knowledge (well, some households) as far as white wrapperas and jokes about them go.--[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline''' plus '''side note:''' There already is a fun fact about this on the page. Furthermore, Coach Z is some sort of Canadian/Minnisotan/New Englander/Bostonian white boy himself, and he can rap better than anyone else on the site. In addition, The Brothers Chaps seem to be pretty good at rapping (at least when they write and perform for Coach Z). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline''' Why does the color of a rapper's skin matter? [[User:Fizz123|Someone who does not like racism]]
*'''Decline.''' It's not really like that...I think it's more of a stupid slang word for someone who doesn't rap well...It's been used so much it goes beyond being racist. (which is why Strong Bad can say it.) (So, Fizz123, it's not exactly a racist comment.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:07, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline.''' Number A, this is not interesting or relevant. Number B, how do you know Strong Bad didn't say it like Quiver'd? Quivered and quiver'd would be pronounced the same way. This shouldn't have even been STUFF'd. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**A,B,etc... are not numbers.
***You aren't a regular, are you? -Walking Armless
**Heh... good point on B, mibluvr13. I don't know why that didn't cross my mind when I STUFF'd this. Guess I was just thinking blindly about what was in the transcript without thinking about the actual toon. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*<strike>'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)</strike>
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**I submitted this fun fact because Strong Bad didn't capitalize any other rampages he mentioned, and looking at the phrase capitalized, it kind of looks and sounds like Reading Rainbow, at least alliteratively. It was the first (and so far only) thing that popped into my head as to why it was capitalized. Just wanted to state my case, whether or not it matters. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:26, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Heck no at all.''' This is a stretch and three quarters. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' That's pretty clever, actually! I like it. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Anyway, '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''SEVERE Decline!!!''' Anyone who thinks that is a reference needs to have their brain checked, no offense. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Are you kidding me? There's serious doubt. But not about whether this fact should be '''DECLINE'D!!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' If there's no certainty of the connection, it shouldn't be listed. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''VOTE CHANGE! SECOND!''' That's true, Beatfox. I think the only reason I voted yes before was because it sounded hillarious as a spoof...I mean, Reading Rainbow...Reading Rampage? Hahahahaha! Someone ought to make a flash 'toon about that![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.'''If you do a google search for the phrase "reading rampage", you will see that there are a great many libraries in the U S of A that sponsor reading rampages! Still, I like the way you think. It's a stretch, but clearly you have a good sense of humor :)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*My Land! [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reading+rampage Google] ''does'' show lots & '''lots''' of Reading Rampages going ORRRRF in the USA! This is more that just a stretch. The fact as written is just plain wrong. This is a real-world reference. I'm upgrading my vote to an '''Infinite Decline with a Major Rewrite.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The rules of the STUFF'd page prohibit this type of unverified trivia. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Weak Decline''' I think that although this could be a connection, I think that it's stretching it a little. Strong Bad ''vaguely'' says it like Reading Rainbow in the e-mail, but not so much that it stands out to you. I could see why you'd say this, but I still think that you're probably incorrect. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 4:08 PM, 15 Apr 2005
*'''New Trell''' You do happen to provide sufficient reasoning for the Reading Rainbow reference, but the past comments on Reading Rampages are also... well... I DON'T KNOW. I'M NEUTRAL, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING! ...Yeah [[User:SP'd|SP'd is crazy]]

====Marzipan's Speech Impediment====
Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."
*'''Accept.''' I thought this was a rather unusual observation on a character who's normally very proficient with her speech. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' For once, I think this is legitimate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It sure doesn't sound like "Geoff Chaucerbury" to me! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice this. Very nice. Clap, clap. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Because, uh, why does it need to be in Fun Facts? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' It's noted in the transcript (would be is written twice). --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 01:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' True, but it's not immediately obvious to the casual reader. It could easily be overlooked or mistaken for a typo. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Countercomment''' Dan vs. Jerome was similar in its construct - it was in the transcript but non-obvious. It was declined too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a side of DECLINE!''' Sounded more like a simple flash goof to me. Nothing worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment''' Whatever it is, it's not a glitch. I checked it out in a sound editor. Not only are the two "would be's" unique, they make up one continuous phrase. There's no discontinuity in the waveform, and the tone of voice transitions seamlessly. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' -- I believe it's worth noting on a few counts. First, it's unusual for TBC to make this kind of goof. Second, it verifies what people believe they've heard. Third, it prevents people from trying to read into the dialog what's just not there (e.g. Geoff Chaucerbury). There! I doubt I swayed any of the Decliners, but I've had my say! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept '''but''' Move.''' Given that close analysis of the sound track has revealed that this is an actual occurance and not a glitch, it should be taken as valid, but perhaps would be best left as part of the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:15, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Apparently, some less-informed person decided to correct this "typo" in the transcript. I have restored it and added an HTML comment to ward off such attempts in the future... whatever happened to the comment that was there before? In any case, we should at least have ''something'' on the page to point out this oddity. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Because''' someone changed it to "Chaucerbury", we talked about it, agreed it was wrong, and the person who changed it back didn't put back the comment. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Pie, Anyone?====
"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in [[other days]].
*'''Decline.''' Just because it contains "pie" doesn't necessarily mean it's a reference. And I don't like the "may be". [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I want to accept this, I really do, but there's just not enough there there. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''I can't think of a Decline pun right now''' Well, in my opinion, it's just a play on "The Sky's The Limit." Pie is actually a pretty widely used running gag on H*R, including the pie motivational talks mentioned earlier, piemonade, etc. So if anything, this should be in some other section. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Decline''' Hot soup is on my eye![[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' "The pie's the limit" is a reference to the old saying "The sky's the limit." Strong Bad was just being silly by saying pie instead of sky. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*I don't know why, but when I see "may be" in a fun fact, I can see a kitten dying. '''Declinester''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' That and it violates the guidelines of good fun facts (see top of page). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:16, 17 Apr 2005

====Chicken Soup for the Soul====
One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled Soup, Right?, a reference to the "[[Wikipedia:Chicken Soup for the Soul|Chicken Soup for the Soul]]" book series.
*'''Accept'''I like Chicken Soup! You dang right it's a reference![[User: Umbertowasted|Umbertowasted]]
*'''Decline.''' Stretchy stretchy Stretch Armstrong! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I am sure this is an intentional reference.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I can see this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' They stretch you, and stretch you, and STREEEEEEEETCH you! --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' No more a stretch than the ''For Jerks'' book referencing the ''For Dummies'' ones. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Except that "Soup, Right?" doesn't sound at all like Chicken Soup for the Soul, whereas "(Topic) for Jerks" is just like "(Topic) for Dummies".
*'''Decline.''' Soup, Right? could be short for "Soup Done Right" or something like that. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No way, Lucy.''' Sharing one word doesn't make it a reference. Seriously, people, you're not even trying anymore. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' You're stretching! Like RB said: It's only sharing ONE word!! Come on, people!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Not trying? Seems more like they're trying too hard. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Delete.''' There's not way that that is a reference. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I based my vote based on the fact that the books Strong Bad is reading are meant to sound like advice books. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DELORTED!''' That almost definitely doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying "Sweatshirtguy" is a reference to Rocky.
*'''Insert witty DECLINE comment here''' MAJOR STRETCH! Just cause they share the same word doesn't mean they're related. Wow. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second.''' Totally unsupported theory. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:18, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Accept''' Definately a reference
**'''Sign teh vote!''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 00:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**"Definately" not. '''DECLINED''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:56, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Inclined to Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accept.''' While we're at it, "Biscuit" is a reference to "Seabiscuit."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Are you sure you didn't want to type decline? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:37, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I meant accept. Try to name other bestsellers with the words "soup" or "biscuit" in them. It seems clear to me that the titles aren't just random--they're either references to real books, real things (brown story), or HR references. The only thing that seems random to me is Strong Mad's waffle, which reads "BUG."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:18, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***I'm not convinced. It's still one word, and both words happen to be kinds of food. And I, for one, didn't even know "Seabiscuit" was a book til you mentioned it. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 00:06, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***FYI, the book "Seabiscuit" was a major bestseller even before the movie came out.

====It's a Bird, it's a Plane, it's Pie???====

"The pie's the limit" is a reference to the quote, "The sky is the limit," which is found on Thorax Corporation's website.

*'''Decline-erson''' Not only is this fact too obvious, but "The sky is the limit" is a cliché, and is not exclusive to Throax.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Well look who thinks he's Clever Dan. Wait, you're wrong, it's a reference to the Notorious B.I.G., he made a song called "Sky's the Limit" so he must've copyrighted the phrase!!!!111one Ugh...
*'''Decline x999''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Piecline.''' Sorry, that's the best I can do with this one. Why wasn't this just deleted? --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Because I wanted to make sure it wasnt just my oppinion that this stunk.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Looks like you're not alone on this one! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' It's probably a reference to DNA and cloning. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:24, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* You obviously put a lot of work into this one, but unfortunately, I must '''Decrine.''' As said by other folks above, it's a reference to cloning from DNA. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept.''' This is a FUN FACT! Mind you, I highly doubt this is what TBC were trying to reference, but my life has been enriched by reading this. I would suggest rewriting it, however, to say "There is a story in Nordic mythology in which the Aesir (war gods)...." This way, there's no suggestion that TBC was trying to reference this fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No way does this work. The whole joke is based on the popular misconseption of what cloning is. Clones are genetic twins, not exact duplicates with the same minds, thoughts, and memories of the original. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:21, 17 Apr 2005

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:24, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Severe Decline!''' First times are somewhat interesting, second times are not, and third times are hazardous to your health.
*'''Declination Nation.''' No offense, man. I mean, you should get credit for trying, but it's just, well, boring. No one cares.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' This is just a continuation of one of the site's longest running gags: none of the characters have a normal physiology. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:27, 17 Apr 2005

===[[Fhqwhgads]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]

'''VERDICT:''' This item was closed on request by the author. See below for a new version of this fun fact. Voting moved to [[Talk:Fhqwhgads]]--[[User:-erson|<nowiki>Posted by </nowiki>-erson]] 01:27, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The joke theory====
- (An outcome of "Not Expecting")
- It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Still Decline''' Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''2nd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting ''all'' such claims; we're only concerned here with ''this'' case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it ''doesn't'' set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with ''the'' fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads -TK
*Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline-erson''' Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still '''Decline'''. --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
**'''Comment.''' The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is impossible to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Which is why "claimed" is used...look you gous are missing the point...the point is it wasn't based on the virus, not that I know Fwh. Besides, if proof is all you guys seem to care about, what "proof" do we have that it WAS based on the virus?[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:45, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno, maybe the large Scare that passed during the same time this email was released? It could be an influence considering it wason every news station across the land. I mean honestly... And note: in order for it to be a fun '''fact''', it needs proof. Its not a fact without it! --[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.'''You're right. There is no proof. Frankly, I think the "virus" theory should be deleted/stuff-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".

*'''Decline.''' Close, but no cigar. It doesn't even use the Ren & Stimpy font. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Weak Second.''' Hmmm... but I don't really see how this would be a fun fact... [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:28, 8 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''decline.exe''' Seriously, if this was any more of a stretch, it could reach Mars. ... Yeah, that was bad. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:44, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DOUBLE DECLINE!!!''' Along with "seconding" with the above, I was a die-hard Ren & Stimpy fan when they still showed it, and I don't remember anything vaguely remotely relating to the sim. Even if there was, it's more of a stretch than Silly Putty . [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:21, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.
*'''Comment.''' I stuffed this because it's very much in question whether Homestar has invisible "arms" or some other way to "hold" objects. Opinions? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Because it wasn't clear in my previous comment. Anyway, I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. He doesn't have any arm holes in his shirt and the other characters call him armless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 12:56, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' You could add this fact to any toon or email which features Homestar manipulating an object. Hopefully, we won't. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' In how many other toons does homestar appear to be handling more objects than could be reasonably handled using two arms? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:52, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**[[time capsule]] is another example. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:55, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Hmm....even so, it's one of those things that's not very obvious. If it happened all the time, that'd be one thing, but if it doesn't happen that often, I think it's worth noting.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:02, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!''' "Another one of those times"? For shame! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Dear Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This is one of the best Fun Facts I've seen (I'm talking about the original Fun Fact, not that boxing gloves mention). Half glitch, half major insight into the Homestar universe. Definitely a keeper.
**Sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**'''Second.''' -- One of the better ones for sure! [[User:smoothmedia|smoothmedia]]
*'''F--''' Does everything in the Homstarrunner.com world make perfect sense? Heck no at all. I think the fact that his arms are invisible in the first place is pretty weird. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dcline''' I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. It just... floats. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:14, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I'm thinkin' Homestar's like VeggieTales. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 21:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Aren't fun facts supposed to be fun? This is... just silly. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:37, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise, move''' This seems like it is worth pointing out about Homestar, but if this really a common occurence(I never really thought of it before, does Marzipan ever do this?) that it should be mentioned on his character page. The reason I think this falls under fun facts is that it's unexpected and hard to notice as a result. It's easy to assume when you see Homestar holding something without hands that he essentially has invisible arms. Occurences like this supplant that notion. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Based on what people are saying, it sounds like it's not a common occurence. Only in two episodes (to my knowledge) has this been an issue: this one and [[time capsule]]. It wasn't obvious to me on watching either episode, and I'm glad someone is pointing this out!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Buleeted''' May I remind you? Is marsipan a broom? Yo strongbad, How do you type with boxing gloves on? Where is Pom pom's mouth? You are one of these people now. Muhahahaha. [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]
**'''Second.''' Too technical. But people, please stop picking on him. You're being a little harsh. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' We SHOULD mention on Marzipan's character page that she looks like a broom, and on Strong Bad's page that he types with boxing gloves on, and on Homestar's page that he has no arms, etc. Just because these are issues/questions that TBC refuses to explain (yet), doesn't make issues like Homestar's strange arm-mechanics unworthy of mention. The proposed fun fact is centrally relevant to one of the main mysteries on the site. It also sheds new light on the issue by refuting a common interpretation (that Homestar has two invisible arms). It's less similar to "Strong Bad typing with boxing gloves on" as it is to "Strong bad typing with boxing gloves on and without touching the keyboard". It adds a new layer to an age-old Homestar Runner question. - Dingell
*Homestar has no arms, invisible or other wise. He simply manipulates objects. Nobody knows how, because thats the joke. Trying to apply logic to it only ruins the fun.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Accept'''- it seems that this is reasonable. [[User:computerdude33|computerdude33]]
**'''Accept''' When I see Homestar, I presume that if he has ANY "Invisible Arms", He would have two. --[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 20:21, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Donny, I couldn't have said it any better. High-ball! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:52, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .

''After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the [[Talk:suntan|talk page]] of suntan.

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:local news]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''
*'''Revise''': This is an interesting fact, but I think that the part in bold is a bit unecessary. After all, this is a knowledge base, not a place for rants. If you wanted to put something like this, I suggest doing it in the forum. Besides, this is easily infered from reading the transcript. I think that the part in bold needs to be deleted, and the rest added back into the Fun Facts. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' I assume this is an '''Accept'''. Please sign your vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' This is hardly a rant. I don't think the statement loses anything by removing the "offending" clause, however. I ''would'' change "this is the only reference" to "this is one of the few references". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' But this ''is'' the only reference to homosexuality on the site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 12:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' It's ''currently'' the only reference on the site. For all we know, the entire cast will be outed tomorrow and it will become the ''first'' reference among many. The guidelines for this section says that facts that become easily dated are bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' In fact, I just convinced myself that it should say "This is the first reference" -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment:'''I'm just saying that it seems like a rant to me, and it's rather unecessary (The part in bold, that is). --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' A rant against who? Tough Guys? The comment says that SB handles the situation "maturely". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Accept.''' I think it's fine the way it is.</strike> '''Decline.''' Changed my mind, the point that it's the only reference to homosexuality on H*R is debatable and may possibly change, so the fact doesn't have much of a point to it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The ONLY reference? What about in the new [[HomestarTalker|Homestar Talker]]? "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad Are Totally Going Out!" We know Strong Bad is a guy, and Pom-Pom is called '''"he"''' many times throughout the site. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Response''' Maybe "going out" just means they're going someplace together, like to a movie or something. It's possible for guys to do stuff together without it being "gay." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Wow... so many comments, but very few people willing to actually vote. This item is trying to point out something that is intended as a joke, and as such, it shouldn't need to be explained or have undue attention drawn to it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:06, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:08, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment''' Heh-heh. Sorry about that remark. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Accept with Revisions''' This is a time in history where many homosexuals are being recongnised. Though this, admittedly, isn't the ONLY reference, we should still note it was handled maturely. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' If he had handled it any other way than maturely, TBC would have been called homophobes. Doesn't matter though, I can't think of a reason why it would be important to point out a gay reference just as I can't see why it would be important to point out all the swears that have been used. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise.''' A notable fact. While not in any way offensive, the second half of the sentence is unnecessary. Revise to say "This is the first reference to homosexuality in the H*R universe." Let Strong Bad's maturity speak for itself. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Twond''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second'''. And am I the only one to think "''[[Wikipedia:Bad Dudes|Bad Dudes]]''" when hearing this? "The Cheat has been kidnapped by fhqwhgads. Are you a tough enough guy to save The Cheat?" --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Not really. But the part about it being the only reference to homosexuality might be OK.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise and Accept-erson''' As a queer myself, I feel that the last section is totally acceptable. As a tough guy, Strong Bad would have been expected to respond with aggression, rudness, etc... as other "tough guys" I know have. However, he acted out of what was expected of him, and I think that makes it interesting and acceptable. Just change "only" to "first" and you're good to go.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:55, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Second.''' P.S. I'm so proud of SB for handling it maturely!!! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Decline.''' If, for some reason, an handicapped character was introduced in a cartoon(perhaps a character without arms?), would it be a fun fact to say, "this is the first time a handicapped character has appeared"? As Bob Marley says, "until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes..."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline''' (a) It's not the only reference to homosexuality on the site, as noted above. (b) Saying that Strong Bad handled it "maturely" is an opinion... people in general do sometimes tend to be offended when their names are contorted into names of the opposite gender. (c) Fun Facts should be objective; it's not a place to judge the characters' morality, so the word "thankfully" has no place here... though I do agree with your moral evaluation in this case. - Dingell
*'''Comment.''' This has gotten pretty complex. Here's the current vote tally as I see it ...
:This is the only ref ... 2 votes
:This is the first reference and it was handled in a mature manner ... 3 votes
:This is the first ref ... 3 votes
:Decline ... 7 votes. I'm assuming this means reject the fact outright.
:--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Interesting, but it's a bit of a stretch. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:51, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''X-Pensive Decline.''' Since it is white-out, W for White makes the most sense. And substituting letter sounds for words or word parts is a common practice in product branding... X-tra this, E-Z that, etc. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:38, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns). Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*A link would have been nice. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondhand pants.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' I agree with Donnny and at is why I '''Accept.''' Why is that a reason not to accept? The standard should be that it be something amusing or interesting which someone might not notice without reading this WIKI. Why else does this WIKI exsist? [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Then how did become pixalated? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline the Declines (AKA accept)''' This is very interesting, and I didn't even notice it until i read this. I don't understand why it was stuffed or why everyone seems to hate it so much. I think it's GOLD! [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:57, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' AGAIN, being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Although honestly I'm not seeing what's so "GOLD" about it... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:07, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**It totally was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but".
**'''Revise, accept''' It is a run-on scentence. Try:
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However, in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
**Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV. There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
*'''DECLINE, and I have proof.''' [[HR:xmas04.html|Watch the toon.]] When we first see Homestar in bed, we ''can't see the window.'' After he sits up, the camera moves, and ''lo and behold'' there the window is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
***The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From ''The American Heritage Dictionary:'' A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, ''but''), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
***Technically, beginning a sentence with ''however'' is not wrong either. But it ''is'' poor style. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy—Strong Bad was making that up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite, then accept.''' You have a good foundation, but you rambled a little bit. I would just cut it to the fact that SB said "broke the lappy again," intending that the Cheat maay have broken it before.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The 'Jay and Silent Bob' part is right on. The 'Jalepeño' part is wrong.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.
*'''Second''' - I immediately thought of Jay and Silent Bob. -[[User: Miss Free Country USA| Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' - I think the person who posted this fact was right. Whenever I see the name Silent J, it makes me think of Jay and Silent Bob, and I think TBC were also thinking of that. -[[User: Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*it is a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless
*'''Rewrite and accept.''' The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The answering machine could have been referring to a "Corey", or "Cori", not neccessarily "Cory".
*'''Most Likely Declined''' Your geekdar is overly sensitive, when was the last time you had an expert look at it? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' According to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Mr._Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]] was introduced in 1944. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:54, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Yep. Yep. Yeap. Second.''' -Walking Armless
**'''Threecond.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*...urge to kill...rising... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Oh please... are you surfing HR.com randomly looking for things to correlate? '''Decline!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Segundo.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It's not even worth it to be sarcastic. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted. It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item. It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Absolutely not!''' References to "This that and the other thing" are totally useless and encourage people to add to it, making it MORE useless. Maybe an Explanation or Remark, but not a Reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' You have the clear backbone for a Fun Fact, but it needs severe rewording and needs to be a little less derogatory. (sp?)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:31, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's not a Goof, because it was on purpose. I'd call it an Explanation. Don't mention a specific cartoon, as it fits the whole genre. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold was in question)

'''Verdict:''' After about a month of voting, the fact in bold was narrowly '''declined''' by a score of 2-3. The Star Trek reference has been put back on [[best thing]], while the entire discussion can be found on [[Talk:best thing]]. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:colonization]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:dragon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

-Edited by [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]. (Link was to [[rock opera]], not dragon)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Unadulterated Decline''' Come on, it's like you're not even trying. -Walking Armless
*'''The Klein.''' It's just a title effect. Besides, this doesn't give us any new information or insights. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:09, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== You killed Pom-Pom! ====
When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"

*'''Decline''' Uh...no. "Storng" Bad was just trying to scare Marzipan with a crank call. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unmatchable Decline''' Spell right, blast ye! -Walking Armless
*'''Delcine.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*You may be a reference to the superfluousness of the Shift Key... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Indelible Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move?''' Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move.''' Substituting 'm' for 'n' may be a running gag... Leomard Sportsinterviews, anyone? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:28, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' SB's makin' 'em up on the fly. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' The voting on this one stopped about a month ago tomstiff, it has been changed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:37, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I thought if a vote wasn't closed, then it was ... well ... open! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Woah. Isn't what brings this community together the laughter and enjoyment that homestar runner gives us? If you want to play the intellectual superiority game, why don't you go over to the MENSA wiki?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Are you talkin' to ''me''? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:10, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.'''Nope, I was talking to Islayedthekerrek. No manners at all. Sorry for not making it clearer.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Sorry tomstiff, I just want to forget this one, but the fact HAS been changed already, so if you really hate this one, then STUFF the new version. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I don't hate it ... at least not yet ... JOKE! I didn't realize it had been "closed" until after I voted. My point is ... if it's closed then why is it still open? To paraphrase a vote much further up the page ''It ain't closed until The Eggman closes it.'' And with that, let me re-unofficially close what had been unofficially closed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Lol''' Thanks for making me look like a fool, man by quoting me. Naw, seriously, I was just angry at myself for making such a dumb fun fact. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''D'oh!''' I had no idea I was quoting ''you''. Any fool-making was purely accidental! Let's get this thing closed before more hilarity ensues! Yoo hoo! The Eggman! Over here! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Too Late!''' The hilarity be ensuing already! I was just kidding when I said you made me look like a fool, though... '_' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I'm here... and getting to it...''' I just did a huge number on the finished ones up through Best Thing the other night. I'll get from Rock Opera on in the next day or so - been busy with non-H*R stuff... (I know, I know, heaven forbid...) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 03:45, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk: Kick the Can]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second.''' At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***I've seen "Goofs" around here a LOT worse than this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Too insignificant. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:35, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Good enough for me. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:other days]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

'''VERDICT:''' This fun fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:20, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''-some Guest
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They probably decided on "frickin'" for the same reason Fricker's did: it sounds like "chicken". --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.frickers.com/locations.asp Frickin'] link!
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_4]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Decemberween_Teen_Girl_Squad]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:15, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
*** anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

'''VERDICT''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted. It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:2 years]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:2 years]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''FunFact=very yes.''' I like this fun fact a lot, and even remember it when it was among the other fun facts. I wonder why it was stuff'd. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:17, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' And Strong Bad's left boxing glove looks the same as his right boxing glove...

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''ACCEPT'D!''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:49, 16 Apr 2005 (EST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sprechen'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:31, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dr. Decline.''' An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*'''<strike>Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Revise Slightly.''' "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg." Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

*'''Accept.''' It says "ages 3-5" quite clearly at the bottom right of each action figure package. Why was this STUFF-ed? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept'''. Very noteworthy. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite''' Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most legible thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most intelligible thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from [http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode23.htm#3 Scott of the Sahara]...Rewrite! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I'm assuming this message was made in response to [[homsar]] to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed". Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now. I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
**Not to super nitpick, but the best word to use would probably be "sensible", since intelligible is just the ability to say words and sentences. He says stuff just fine, it just never makes any sense. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 03:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''"That's a real popular song! Who want's to hear that it's ACCEPTED!"''' Yep, I think this is a good point! Great job! *claps*--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

==Games==
===[[Peasant's_Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
*'''Fhqwdlcinds''' So??? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So, rather dashing's real name name is Julio. Good catch! Just '''revise''' it so that its a little more obvious. Try:
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in
Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Me Declino Infinito.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''REWRITE'D!''' I was the one who wrote the thing anyway, so I rewrote it with -erson-san's suggestion. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline the new one too''' It's still useless, and perhaps now moreso - are we next going to say that his name is Misspeller Jones? (Type "get plague" near the lantern.) It's a joke. Just go with it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' But, it might NOT be. Geez, why does everyone always decline everything around here? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:45, 16 Apr 2005
*** Oh, wait, what was that word? "Might"? As in, you're not certain? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But the fact that Rather Dashing is saying "Me llamo Julio" as a conversation starter to the Kerrek would be a different case. Do you ever say "Hello my name is..." and mention an incorrect name? And about the "Misspeller Jones", is it not common for people to make up nicknames for people about their different characteristics? Like you call a clumbsy person "Butterfingers" even though his real name is Bob, or a bad typist "Misspeller Jones" even though his real name is Julio? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:34, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****It sounds to me like the sort of thing you'd find in the first five pages of a beginners' Spanish textbook, and without otherwise knowing what to say to the Kerrek, he just rambled relative nonsense. We know his real name, and it's not Julio. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******We dont ''know'' that his real name is Rather Dashing, the character doesn't actually say it himself. Just the narrator. And whos more likely to know his own name, the narrator or Rather Dashing? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*******So, at the end of the game, the NARRATOR tells Trogdor (who repeats it - in voice acting!) that his name is Rather Dashing? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
********Sorry, I never played to the end of the game. But honeslty, what are the odds that if he was talking nonsence he would utter a phrase that just happens to be a very popular opening statement when meeting new people? And, there is no where in the game where it tells you Rather Dashing can't speak Spanish. Perhaps he though Kerrek spoke spanish.
*********Yes, I just double-checked the ending. The narration says "You scream that your name is Rather Dashing", followed by a long speech with a computer voice reading along (a direct quote by Trogdor), ending in "It will be a pleasure to burninate you, Rather Dashing." One random piece of text may give small credence to your theory that RD's real name is Julio, but the entire rest of the game contradicts it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Perhaps a rewrite than to indiciate that Rather Dashing's name may be Julio according to that text?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I don't think Fun Facts is a place for theories that "may be" true based on a possible interpretation of one statement. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yet Another Comment.''' We all know that "rather dashing" is a term meaning you're good-looking. Maybe he just calls himself that because he thinks he's, well, good-looking. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:41, 17 Apr 2005 (EST)
*How do we know he just didn't read that off of a Spanish textbook? It's just as much speculation to say that Rather Dashing CAN speak Spanish as it is to say he can't. Can't you just accept that this is random TBC humor? Seriously, this is a bigger stretch than Dhalsim. '''Me llamo decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment Numero Tres.''' Look, we're never going to get anywhere like this, and I'm sick of the arguments. Someone lock this thing, PLEASE. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:53, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Throughout all of the Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer, Rather Dashing is referred to as ... Rather Dashing. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Black Spots====
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
** The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:April 2005 Sysop Nominations

Mr. Sparkle — Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:23:14 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* FireBird */

The Homestar Runner Wiki is now accepting nominations for new [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysops]].

Please note that these are just nominations. Any final decision will be made by The Admin Team.

This is not a vote. This is not a popularity contest. Do not get rowdy. Do not get your hopes up.

Please use the following format for making nominations:

===[[User:Tom|Tom]]===
I nominate Tom. He's a cool guy.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I agree. Tom is the coolest.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I also agree. Tom is quite cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I disagree. Tom is not as cool as you think.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I would only like to comment that Tom is in fact the coolest, but I do not believe this reflects on his ability as a sysop.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I believe Tom should get me a danish. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 06:04, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you,
[[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]], [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]], [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]], [[User:Stu|Stu]], and [[User:Tom|Tom]] 
'''The Homestar Runner Wiki Administration Team'''



==The Nominees==

===[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]]===
I nominate T Bird. He seems to be on the ball [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 05:47, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I concur. Both of the birds seem to have their acts in the game. In fact, when I first joined I sorta thought they WERE sysops. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:47, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Wait... this isn't STUFF. Oh well. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''2nd''' Great wiki user. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
***'''3rd'''. Thunderbird would be a great sysop. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**He and FireBird would make great sysops. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]]

===[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]===
I also nominate F Bird for Sysop. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 05:47, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Again, '''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:47, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Also Second''' I really can't decide, but both of them would be great choices. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:59, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**He and Thunderbird would make great sysops. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 11:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[User:Jay|Jay]]===
I dont know if he's already a sysop, but if hes not, he seems to be on the ball. I nominate [[User:Jay|Jay]]. --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 15:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:When I first met him I thought he was by how he acted. Nominate'd! - [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:53, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Jay is a great contributor to this wiki. He'd make a perfect sysop. —[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]] 19:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Definately. He's made tons of contributions.[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
*Second'd - I like what he's done with regards to STUFFing (but then, that's pretty much all I work on anyways). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**And theres nothing wrong with that! Its mostly where I spend my time.--[[User:-erson|<nowiki>Posted by </nowiki>-erson]] 01:03, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I agree. Jay would be awesome. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*Yes sir Jay for Sysop [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 04:26, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I most definately think that Jay would be a good choice. -From an annonymous semi-contributor

===[[User:Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]===
I norminate...I mean nominate Lord Pikachon. He seems to be doing pretty well around here.[[User:Arnold Schwarzenegger Fan|Arnold Schwarzenegger Fan]] 19:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Sorry, but I think I must decline this nomination. I don't think he's ready yet for sysop powers. He's made a few not-so-good edits from time to time - look at his edits [[Parrot|here]] and [[Possum|here]] for a modern example. So... that's it. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Although Mr Pikachon is a good contributer, I have questioned his judgement a few times. Perhaps in 3 months time? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 04:29, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[User:daunrealist|Daunrealist]]===
I would have to go with daunrealist. He's always trying to help out the wiki community. Really. [[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]]
*Um... are you allow'd to do that (besides Tom)? [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
**I doubt it's hurting anything, since it's the mods who make the final call in the end. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***It's not. But this might be a long page if you can nominate yourself. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

===[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]===
He's made tons of contributions here, as well as to the fansuff. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

Talk:Stages

Mr. Sparkle — Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:55:26 GMT

Mr. Sparkle:

== Name ==

Should we rename this to auditorium? We've seen more than the stage.--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 20:55, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stages

Mr. Sparkle — Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:53:07 GMT

Mr. Sparkle:

== Name ==

Should we rename this to auditorium? We've seen more than the stage.

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Mr. Sparkle — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:02:03 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* long pants */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[long pants]]===
====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

*'''Decline''' First times can be interesting. Second times, not so much. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:48, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' And how... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:50, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And isn't there another "fun" fact below that was about how [[crying]] showcased the second time a character cried? --[[User:Donny vs Unviverse|Donny vs Universe]]

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*'''Decline.''' Big deal. It's not even the same kind of red. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:17, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====

Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

*'''Decline.''' At least in Tompkins' case. I don't think Edga Jr. looks like Tompkins at all. I don't know about Ron Cumberdale...but I doubt it too. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:03, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a referrence to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank| Ratchet & Clank]].

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)

*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

*'''Weak Decline''' At first, I wanted to be sure that the episode in question aired before [[crazy cartoon]], but as it turns out, the quote isn't precise ("I'll get you, Eh! Steve!" is the actual phrase). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:06, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Assuming the referrence can be confirmed, shouldn't this be placed on the Sightings page? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**I did check TVTome.com, and the episode in question DID air before "crazy cartoon". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Major Decline''' It's likely that the Bros. Chaps watch Sealab, since they did a song for it. However, this reference is a huge stretch. "I'll get you (whoever) if it's the last thing I do!" is a common cliché phrase for villains. Sealab and this email were referencing the same general phenomenon. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:40, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
*'''Decline.''' Did you know that [[comic]] is one of the few instances that the word "<s>ass</s>" is used on the site, with the other instance being [[Hairstyle Runner]]? Well don't post a fact about it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:12, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] they say hella, not hell. --[[User:Koooo275|Kiril]] 10:30, 27 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Agree''' I never noticed that before.

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.
*'''Weak Decline''' Since the answer was right on that test (and never right on Calvin's tests) I don't think this is the case. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Comment''' We never actually see the questions to the test (except the first, which is "Are you all going to be in my experimental film?"), so we don't know if the answer is right. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on comment''' Actually, we know the answer was wrong, because the test-taker got an A+ after selecting a ''different'' answer (specifically, "Yeah!") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:56, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on my own comment''' Well, okay, actually, I was assuming that it was multiple-choice and that the test-taker was selecting the first of four possible answers (notice the hilight). I suppose four questions being on a different page never really occurred to me before now. Oh, well, whatever. The test-taker got an A+. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:01, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Will the commentary never cease?''' You are right! I personally don't think it has much to do with whether it's a reference or not, though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:57, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seems a bit of a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:45, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This reference seems fine to me. Calvin did this a lot and I think of it when seeing "cotton gin" on a test. It might be a bit stretchy though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:49, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''
*'''Decline.''' Theres an essay by Mike Nelson (of '''Mystery Science Theater 3000''' fame) about how Eli Whitney and the cotten gin were all kids used to learn about in school. So the cotten gin answer isn't really an original idea (or at least not one to put a specific reference on). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Decline''' I read and own many Calvin and Hobbes comic collections. In my reading, I noticed that while Calvin did use The Cotton Gin as answers, he mostly just puts down random answers to questions he didn't know the correct answer to. Other answers include "Trostsky, Lexington, 1824", and so on. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:27, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?
*'''Decline.''' This is definitely not the only reference to Bubs' greedyness. By the point this email comes out, anyone that knows Bubs would almost expect that of him. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Third.''' And add, duh. -- [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Fourth.''' Everyone knows that Bubs' is greedy. It's not just the [[pom pom]] email. Don't forget [[local news]] where they have to pay 5 bucks to wait in line. It's a joke to poke fun at already known knowledge. (I know I'm being repetitive.) [[User:Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Fifth''' A fact by a newb. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-inate'''And what about him charging increasing amounts of cash for pictures with the tragic hotdog clown? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.
*'''Decline.''' Seems like a stretch to me. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Maybe, but theres not enough evidence. It could just be a variation on "big in France" or "big in Japan" style jokes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place? This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I'm the one who STUFF'd this, and it was mentioned in [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], not [[The King of Town DVD]]. This fact is supposed to apply to a fourth wall breakage. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 07:19, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And it still deserves a '''Decline,''' because it's a pointless fun fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:53, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline with a vengence''' The entire idea of the characters doing commentaries is a fourth wall breaking excercise. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I'm ready to "decline" the entire idea of logging "fourth wall breaks"... Strong Bad is constantly making it clear that he knows he's performing for an audience (e.g. "So, until next week, keep sending me those emails...") - Dingell

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speach here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audiance.
*'''Decline.''' There are too many of these out there, and they're almost all boring. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' I agree. This fun fact can not be placed anywhere. Could it be that he is so self-esteemed that he believes that he will have an audience for anything he does? [[User: Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondinated!!!''' --[[User:blakyoshi7|blakyoshi7]] 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.
*'''Decline''' There is a very key difference between them. In Monty Python, the subtitles are meant to look like they're in a foreign language when they're not. In little questions, they are meant to look English, translating pseudo-English being spoken to a Swede. That's not close enough for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:00, 14 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' Entirely different subtitle gags - they just happen to share a common language. Also, the Holy Grail subtitles are not accompanied by the original audio that the subtitles are translating (I *know* there isn't an original audio track - I'm making a point here). And one more thing, the subtitles in 'little questions' are in English, not even QUASI-psuedo-Swedish. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:03, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*'''Decline.''' Unimportant, uninteresting, unacceptable. I don't see any reason to make note of this at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:47, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*'''Decline.''' Not very fun or interesting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:12, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And did you know that "Homsar" is the second e-mail that Strong Bad appears in? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines above. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Though I did post a similar fun fact in Homestarloween Party using the knowledge from this fact. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And [[for kids]] was the second time we see Strong Bad smile, and in [[virus]] it is the second email where a Strong Bad's computer explodes. Do you see how boring that can get? [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 21:57, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].
*'''Decline''' A slight stretch. I don't think Strong Bad said the exact same thing, and probably has said "all a y'alls" In another toon or sbemail. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I live in Houston, and I hear "all y'all" about 749 times a day. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
**True, it's a common saying. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''' Agreed. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

*'''Accept'''. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second''' As Homestar said, "Boring." --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

*'''Decline.''' They could be talking about something else. Maybe a '''Revise''' could also be in order; lest we forget the People's Choice Awards? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:11, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline Second'd.''' It's probably more a reference to People's Choice than Kids' Choice since the former has been around longer. In any case, this joke is obvious enough that it doesn't need explanation. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:14, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a People's Choice reference...
**'''Second''' Also Critic's choice awards--[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]] 16:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' The Kids' Choice Awards themselves are probably a reference to the People's Choice Awards anyway.

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

*This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Nowhere in the context of the email is anything that may narrowly resemble Scooby-Doo. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Maybe if he said "those weird little kids and that dog" or more obviously, "those meddling kids", it would more "quite possible". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:17, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Responding to the previous two''' He says in the same sentence that he's solving a Celebrity ''Murder Mystery'' which is what the Scooby gang did all the time. I don't much care for that series myself, but it's probably true. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Accept/Rephrase''' There were many other cartoons like that too, it may not be that particular one, but it's most likely a reference to that one since it's the most well known. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline.''' I don't think Scooby actually ever dealt with a murder, let alone a celebrity murder. But even if he did there isn't anything in the e-mail to suggest a connection to Scooby. Strong Bad doesn't even mention a cartoon in the sub scene. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:58, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:51, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' You’re joking right? ‘Those weird little kids’ could be a reference to a lot of things; ''Village of the Damned'', ''The Ring'', ''The Shinning'' etc. Besides Scooby and the gang are teenagers not little kids. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.
*'''Accept''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 15:49, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' or even better '''Move'''. Excellent observation, but I think it would serve better on Strong Bad's and Homestar Runner's character biographies, stating that they must both have been born prior to 1947 according to this email. --[[User:62.252.224.13|62.252.224.13]] 16:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I put up this fact, and I think it's useful and "fun" as an anecdote, but it probably shouldn't be taken as a hard fact within the Homestar universe. Just to note a few contradictions that would arise if Strong Bad were in fact this old: (1) We probably wouldn't be able to have a VHS tape of Little Strong Sad performing stand-up comedy at school, (2) If the King of Town was already King in 1947, then The Cheat must have "mashed play on an extremely expensive jambox" before 1947, because the king was still a prince when said jambox-mashing occurred in sbemail 100, (3) A fiftysomething man goes trick-or-treating, and his mom helped him with his costume (Homestarloween Party)? Seems a bit strange. But anyway, I think it's worth pointing out the age factor.
*'''Comment''' I'm not too sure, I mean, the email is really just looking at it as though the character of Strong Bad was used back then(since, as just a character, the age wouldn't matter. The idea for Strong Bad's character could've been around then, but then later used in modern day times, like, for example, Popeye or Mickey Mouse, for whom age isn't an important factor.), but it's presented through Strong Bad's point of view, thus implying that he would have aged since then. Sure, one could note that "Strong Bad has been around for 58 years", but saying that Strong Bad himself is over 58 years old doesn't work for me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I can't see any proof that the Castlefunnies actually "happed". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:47, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE.''' Some of you are reading way WAY too much into this. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:56, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Wow! Maybe old timey Homestar IS regular old Homestar...nah. Its a joke used for one e-mail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Very interesting, but it should be reworded. This isn't Strong Bad's age, it's just him showing that he knows that he's an unaging cartoon character. It's a forth wall break. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 10:48, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept and rephrase''' It is interesting, but maybe it should be rephrased into the passive, saying "If it is true, Strong Bad would be 57 years old." That, or we've caught Strong Bad making things up, and there never was a Castle Funnies.[[User:Aaronite|Aaronite]] 6:32, 17 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is radiculous. Definitely not fun in any way... And probably not accurate either. It's just a joke. A one-time joke. Get over it. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:00, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Worst prize'D, Ding''' People, we have encyclopedias, we can look things up. Just because we know things about the revolutionary war, doesn't mean that we're 200 years old. We go to school, and we learn things. So there. --64.136.27.226 18:01, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Um... you should READ the fun fact before you vote for it. Sure, just because you know about the Civil War doesn't mean you're 200 years old, but what about if you FOUGHT in it? Because the "fighting in the Civil War" metaphor paralells the fact in question, not your post.
*'''Decline''' Ummm, if this was taken literally, then how old would the KoT be?! Strong Bad's a liar, and this is a one-time joke, as said many times above. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:11, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

*'''Decline.''' Need we bring up the ketchup example? Too general. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:05, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!''' Hmmm, is ''anyone'' getting the picture that TBC reuse things all the time? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Apparently not if the STUFF'D fact below is any indication (oh, and '''second'''). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' This one IS too general... (however, the one below is not) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' Holy crap! This cartoon is the 192nd time Strong Bad's head appears. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:11, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Honestly!''' A word to the administrators: I move that these copy-and-paste Fun Facts be DELETED immediately. Do I have a second to this motion?
** I move that you SIGN your vote. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:40, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

*'''Revise and Accept.''' The second half is unnecessary - just say it's the same guitar that appears in Puppet Time. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:50, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Heh, just realized that if this fact is accepted, it'll need a little more in it:
The guitar Space Gary tosses is the same guitar shown in Puppet Time.
::--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:21, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Facts that are about re-used items are usually rejected outright. Puppet time or live action items shouldn't be excempted from this. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I disagree about live-action items. Given that there aren't that many live-action shorts, I think it's quite notable... in this particular instance. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
***What, they're going to go out and get a new guitar everytime they need one? I stand by my vote, its no different than the other times they re-use stuff. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Again, I respectfully disagree. It's different when you're dealing with small things like a can, or a spoon, or a bottle of ketchup - I agree that when it's reused more than once, it shouldn't be included. A guitar, on the other hand, is not a small thing, and in the context of this toon, it's a very noticeable item. And given that this is (possibly) the first time that a live-action shot was included in a SBE-mail, I think it's notable. I do agree that not every re-used prop deserves its own fun fact, but I do think that this one DOES deserve mentioning. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*****C'mon, the guitar also shows up in the 100th e-mail along with Limozeen. Its not important enough to point out everytime it shows up. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******Geez, lighten up... for starters, that's in an easter egg, not the main cartoon. And as I said before, live-action bits in an animated series are special cases. But this bickering is meaningless - unless someone else votes, it's at a deadlock. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*******'''Decline.''' Since you said it was a deadlock... I think it's a silly fun fact. I'm sure the Brothers Chaps don't have new guitars lying around for every time they want to put one in a toon. Of course it's always the same guitar. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:40, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Quite frankly, I find the "TBC re-use items all the time!" argument to be weak. This is a place where people look for connections between toons, and while not EVERY re-used item deserves a mention (the Wiki would be clogged with entries about ketchup bottles, old cans, and wooden spoons), there must be certain times when the reappearance of re-used items is notable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
* Right right (and I'm the one who needs to lighten up). Look, the guitar also shows up on the Limozeen poster in Haircut. Is there going to be a fun fact for that appearance as well? It doesn't matter whether the guitar shows up in an easter egg or as part of the main cartoon. Its a re-used prop, not any different than TBC re-using the animated props. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I think the point I'm trying to make is that in those other instances, the guitar is not an active part of the toon. The fact that in "best thing" the guitar is *tossed* from animated to live-action makes it noticeable, and therefore, notable in the fun facts. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** Um no, that still just makes it a PROP. And it still doesn't change the fact that its had other appearances before Best Thing. In fact, it shows up almost everytime Limozeen does so its safe to assume it'll show up again in the future. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***"Almost?" I think not - it doesn't show up in their picture in [[monster truck]], it doesn't show up in their [[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-cards]], or any of their other appearances besides the easter eggs in [[haircut]] or [[flashback]] (which are the guitar's ONLY other appearances besides [[Puppet Time]]). Still, there's a difference between a prop that's just for scenery and a prop that is an active part of the action - in the easter egg appearances, it's just held with no explicit reference being made to it. This isn't the case in Puppet Time and Best Thing. And my reasoning for the weakness of the "TBC re-use items" argument is that the average viewer won't say "Hey, the Brothers Chaps re-use that guitar cuz they can't afford to go out and get a new one each time they wanna put one in a live-action shot" - the average viewer is more likely to say "HEY! That guitar looks just like the one Homestar takes away in 'Puppet Time'." An electric guitar is a noticeable item, other minor props like a bottle of ketchup or an old can are not - there is a diference, end of story.--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Theres a bit of a flaw to your reasoning there guy. The use of the guitar isn't meant to be in refererence to anything. Its not important or central to the gag at hand. They could've used the black guitar for all it mattered. It would not have changed the joke at all. As I keep saying, ITS JUST ANOTHER PROP. If someone had posted that the guitar in Puppet Time was the same one in Flashback would you have rejected that fun fact? In fact, since you have to go out of the way to view the easter eggs its logical that pointing out the guitar's appearances in Hair cut and Flashback are more important than the one in Best thing. After all, if not everyone is going to see the easter eggs then its decidedly harder to note the use of the guitars. And thats what fun facts are for right? Pointing out stuff that people normally wouldn't notice right? So if we wouldn't point it out for the easter eggs why should we point it out here? But you go ahead and be obtuse and declare victory all you want. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***There's a flaw in YOUR reasoning - it's more central to the gag at hand than either of the easter eggs in Haircut or Flashback, someone DID point out the guitar's appearance in Flashback, no I wouldn't have rejected it (being only the second time it's been used), and going out of the way to get the easter eggs does NOT make it more important than the reference in Best Thing - in fact, the easter eggs make them less important as they're not an integral part of the toon. And I'm not being obtuse, you're being argumentative (as usual). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** I like how you added in "as usual", as if we've had a million arguments before when in fact I do believe this is the closest thing to an argument I've had here (and if it isn't, its the first one I've had with you. The fact is that if the guitar had been a cartoon prop people would've jumped on it screaming "TBC re-use things all the time". The guitar was not central to joke. It could have been any guitar that was thrown. Therefore, its just another prop. Second, one thing you said is that this fact is valid because some viewers might not have noticed the guitar's re-usage. The re-use is even less important if its been pointed out elsewhere on the site (hey, lets mention that Homsar started out in the e-mail "Homsar" everytime he appears). ITS. JUST. A. PROP. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***It doesn't matter how much you capitalize it or put periods after every word, it doesn't make it more true or the guitar less noticeable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' It also can be a fun fact as this particular instance(unlike the cans, ketchup, ect...) was difficult to notice. I hadnt recognised the guitar's similarity in the two toons even after watching each toon 3 times (as i do with most toons). --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:50, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I found this fact interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:29, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Y'alls can argue all you want, but I think the fact is good enough to be mentioned. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:17, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd.''' Donny is being argumentative, as he usually is. The majority so far is ruling, so get used to it. Oh, and... if you want it to be possessive, it's just ITS, but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's IT apostrophe S. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:00, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

*'''"SEVERE DECLINE!"''' (Changed from "Weak Accept...") --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' While this is an interesting fact, it really doesn't have a place here, being that none of those shows have anything to do with HSR and the only connection is being cancelled after one show. Interesting, but not relevant enough. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:47, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' It isn't relevant. Plus, the addition of the show "The Will," which was cancelled earlier this year by CBS after only airing one episode, makes six. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG ACCEPT!!''' I think it's fun and interesting. The show that you said was cancelled after the first commercial break must be reference to the strong bad e-mail "'''montage'''". At the end when the credits are rolling it says that strong bad hosted a show on Animal Planet that cancelled after the first commercial break. The strong bad show also might be a reference to a show on Animal Planet that was hosted by Collin Mochrie that cancelled quickly. --[[User:s t i n k o m a n K|s t i n k o m a n K]]
** Fun? Interesting? Perhaps. How about RELEVANT? Sorry, fails that test. '''DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:22, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' There was also a show called "Aliens in the family" that got cancelled after one episode. There are just too many shows to list for this to be a viable fact. And a '''second''' on Jay Jay's vote. It isn't relevent anyway. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Actually, Donny, Aliens In The Family lasted only two episodes before it was cancelled. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:45, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
** The ABC affiliate where I live only showed the first episode. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Point One''' This has been mentioned about other single-episode shows already. '''Point Two''' Nobody wants to read about failure shows on a site about a successful web cartoon.
*'''Major Revision then Accept''' Only keep Turn-On, because, like the Limozeen cartoon, it didn't even make it through the pilot episode. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:43, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].
* '''Decline''' Could also just be referring to "Space" (i.e. Cartoon) Gary vs "Real" (i.e. Real) Gary. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:49, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**Second
**Third - JZ
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:56, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".
* '''Decline''' Man, a lot of severe stretches this week. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:36, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second'''; too big a stretch to me. Then again, I've not played ''Parappa'', but this doesn't go very far as to convincing me. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:46, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' I play the game on a regular basis, and the correlation seems strong enough. Might want to change the specific PTR2 reference to a series reference, since there are three games in that series. --[[User:blackbelt|blackbelt]] 1:39, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)
*Could be, yes. Is it? Most likely not. '''DECLINE.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:10, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Explain why it could be a reference. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:04, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Yeah, how is it a referance? I've only played the first game. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.
*'''Decline.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could be about TMBG, or a hundred other alt. rock bands where the lead singer wears glasses. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 07:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' And it's '''Flansburgh''' not "Flansborgh". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:13, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Neutral''' I thought the same thing for a second (it makes sense) but its too vague a joke to put a specific face on it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of bands like that, such as Linkin Park.
*'''Decline.''' The lead singer may wear glasses, but is the bassist a girl? --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:09, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''DECLINE TO THE MAX WITH A VENGANCE''' TMBG is made up of The Johns, the Dans, and Marty, none of them are girls...
** Two things: 1) SIGN YOUR VOTE. 2) The part of the line in question is posted above. The part with the girls isn't there for a reason. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.
*'''Comment''' I don't see why making it in Flash MX would make it have MX at the end or why TBC would be compelled to have it say MX just for the fact that it was MADE in MX. And that's my ¢2. --[[User:67.177.52.133]] 17:16, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Ummm.... I HAVE Flash MX, and it doesn't do that, nor should that be gloated upon so furthermore, '''Decline'''. -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' Even if it were true it doesn't matter enough to have it pointed out. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise, accept''' As there is no proof to the usage of Flash MX, do not include that part. However, I found it interesting that this particular flash file is named diffrently from the rest. So, try:

The flash file for this email is called sbemail126_mx.swf, instead of the normal sbemail126.swf.

:Signed: [[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:57, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Much like the "newintro" item up above, this one is not that interesting and really doesn't bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

*'''Decline.''' This rambles and makes no sense. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:24, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* '''Revise, Accept''' Rambles? Perhaps. But I understand what it's saying - the cartoon looks like it's from the 80s, but Larry's comment at the end makes it seem more modern. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:19, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second t3h second'''--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I thought that was the joke. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:01, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Although elements of the Limozeen in Space cartoon such as the animation style and mention of the popularity of hair metal bands seem to suggest that it would have been aired in the '80s, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 19:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I like this rewrite. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:28, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Alternate Rewrite''' Just to make it a bit shorter: "Although Limozeen in Space seems like an 80's cartoon, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997."
*'''Decline''' While in many ways it seems like an early 80s cartoon, the alternative band reference also places it in the 90s, at least. Strong Bad seems to have an affinity for woefully outdated things (Rhino Feeder is his idea of a modern video game...)
** '''Second''' Changed my vote. I keep thinking that this fact should work but I dunno. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Rewrite, Accept''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:31, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

*'''Accept''' I didn't know that. Good fact, I think.--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:21, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' What? Do you mean that the claw is SIMILAR? Because the Kick the Cheat Demo isn't in an "animation" style, it's in the regular style. The claw is definitely not the same one. (And even if it were, TBC reuse flash items all the time) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"STRONG ACCEPT!"''' Good eye, good eye! --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It does look the same but I don't think its worth noting. Like Evin said, TBC re-use stuff all the time. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

*'''Revise''' Condense this somehow. Like 'With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble any number of cliche cartoon villains like Trap Jaw (from He-Man), Dr. Claw (from Inspector Gadget)' etc.. etc. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:32, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Get rid of the word "designed" in the rewrite, and it's good to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:12, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This seems really vauge. A lot of villains could look like that. The "Or's" say enough.

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

*'''Decline''' It's pretty standard industry practice to show a cancelled show in syndication, even the wildly unsuccessful ones, since it makes the studio money. The recent phenomena of releasing everything in DVD format is just an extension of this. At any rate, this is way too obvious for a 'fun' fact, and we don't really need a thousand edits of this once everyone has added their own favorite, unjustly canceled show. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:44, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:05, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second'''
*'''Decline''' It actually happened the opposite way with ''Clerks'': It was realeased on DVD then syndication. The joke is fairly obvious anyway and doesn't need a fun fact to explain it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).
*'''Decline''' The Beatles are not an alternative band, they were not responsible for destroying metal, and the bassist is not actually a girl, so I don't see why this would be a reference to the Beatles rather than a stereotypical alternative band. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:56, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' This one should have simply been deleted, for the reasons stated above. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmmm... I can't figure out if this is a serious comment, or just a joke about how many other Beatles references are on the page for this one. At any rate, definitely not relevant. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 08:50, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).
*'''Decline''' I really don't see why. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:59, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' They are similar events, but there's no connection between them. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:05, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Move''' It's a re-used joke, sure... but a clear reference? Seems a bit of a stretch. Maybe it would be better to toss up a new page about the instances of this and linking to it on the [[Inside Jokes]] page (where it seems like it would most belong). --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline''' It's simply a re-used joke or a running gag, not a clear reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:21, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.
*'''Decline'''
**'''Second.''' But sign your vote →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:33, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's great kid. You want a cookie everytime you point out the obvious?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 16:00, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third, fourth...'''I think you get the drift. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:58, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Shouldn't it just be "His initial is 'M'"? We don't know that he's got any others. Also, fun fact already noted in the [[Cheat Commandos...O's]] Fun Facts. So '''Decline'''. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]]
**'''NOTE''': I just checked the Cheat Commandos...O's Fun Facts again, and it is only his first initial. Oh, the (slight) embarrassment. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 20:03, 27 March 2005 (BST)
*'''Decline''' As it is, this item is mind-numbingly obvious - but even if you're referring to the easter egg in the Cheat Commandos...O's toon, it's also already noted on that page as well. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. It's major obvious that his first initial is "M", because his first name is Marshie. He doesn't have "Sergant" in his name. DO THE MATH! --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:13, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And this is news, how? Strong Bad's first initial is S, but I don't see that anywhere. Really.

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thank's tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --24.21.86.243 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Don't suppose this matters much now, since it's verified that he was a Mormon missionary, but for the record no, it's not common at all. I'm a Mormon, and I've served a mission myself, and I've never seen "Elder" abbreviated like that (before). But apparently there's always a first time... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 02:19, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
****In fact, actually, the more I think about this the less sense it makes. Not only is "Elder" in my experience never abbreviated to "E.", but it wouldn't make sense for him to be referring to himself as "Elder Fullmer" in the first place. If he's sending an e-mail saying he's going to be gone for two years and unable to access the web, that means he hasn't started his mission yet, and he wouldn't be calling himself "Elder Fullmer" yet. Okay, I understand someone says this guy is a friend of his coworker and he was indeed a soon-to-be Mormon missionary, fine, but...did his first name, by any chance, start with E? Because that would still make a lot more sense than the "E." standing for Elder when Elder isn't abbreviated that way and he wouldn't be calling himself Elder yet anyway. In fact, the personal testimonial notwithstanding, this rings false for me on enough levels I'm going to have to vote '''Decline''' on this one unless some more direct evidence arises. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:07, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' I think this should be reworded, because it has been verified. Something like "E. Fullmer is a Mormon missionary, which explains why he will be absent for the next two years," or something. [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
**'''Decline the above revise, accept the original''' The original is a plausible enough explanation, whether it's true or not (and a lot of fun facts are based on more sketchy information). However, I would decline the above revise because someone posting on a message board about 'the best friend of my coworker' is not the same as verification. I should know... my brother's boss's former roommate was the guy whose stomach exploded because he mixed Pop Rocks and Coke. --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote. The discussion for this item is moved to the [[Talk:Lappy 486]] page --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin. It appears in its rewritten form on the page for [[animal]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of e-mails recieved to date by the site, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Neutral.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item. The modified form of this item appears on the [[Shopping for Danger]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[montage]] ===
==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate. A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the [[montage]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===
==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised) ====
Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]", created by [[Bubs]] drawing [[The King of Town|the King of Town's]] description of Strong Bad. So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the [[pizzaz]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== car ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.
*'''Revise, Move''' I think this belongs more in the Dangeresque 3 email fun facts. Also, get rid of the "Another subtle fun fact" bit. - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd actually put the Gremlin more into Bubs' possesion. He came up with it, so it just seems to work along those lines.
*'''Decline.''' As with the 'bigger wusses and lesser wimps' item up above, since when does Strong Bad always tell the truth? See [[stand-up]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' He could have also changed his mind about being seen in a car. Since this really doesn't contradict anything, it's not really worth noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:38, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Previously someone else said "Strong Bad tends to lie" or something like that. I've thought of that fact before....also the Gremin might not be his. Allow me to reason:
<pre>
stunt double had Dangereque 2
dangeresque 3 had Dangereque 1, with which car.
car had the "You ever see me in a car? No!" quote.

Allow me to put these in order:

dangereque 3(1)
car(quote)
stunt double(2)

First in Dangereque 2, he wasn't in a car.
but Dangereque 1, he was seen in a car.
Dangereque 1 was obviously made before
Dangereque 2, before "car".

This is too confusing, but I hope it gives you a better understanding of it.

</pre>

--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:55, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think what the above user is saying is that since Dangeresque 1 is a prequel to Dangeresque 2, and Dangeresque 2 was made before "car", that Strong Bad had been in a car before "car" was made. However, I think there is evidence in the "dangeresque 3" e-mail that Dangeresque 1 was actually made after Dangeresque 2 (within the H*R universe). Note the sign at the beginning that says "Not in 3-D" and the fact that it is called "Dangeresque 1", not just "Dangeresque." Strong Bad probably realized there was no Dangeresque 1 and subsequently made one, excusing its appearance after Dangeresque 2 by saying it was the limited edition director's cut. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:44, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[lackey]]===

==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===

==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

*'''Rewrite'''- Too long and confusing --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:48, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ...though I almost voted Decline. The reference is a decent one. Perhaps something as simple as:
The 1936 Strong Bad, Strong Man, and The Sneak stealing the parsnips
in the wheelbarrow is reminiscent of the scene in The Reddest Radish
where their 21st-century counterparts steal Marzipan's radish.
::The mention of the speculation is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:49, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Strong Sad Blog|Strong Sad's Lement]] ===

==== Meh ====

"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

*'''Decline.''' It's to obvious, It's like saying Homestar's speech impediment. Meh is also an emotion meaning normal, not happy, not sad, just...meh. - [[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

long pants

Mr. Sparkle — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:28:20 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Real-World References */

[[Image:sbemail127.png|thumb|Light globes]]
'''Strong Bad Email #127'''

The answer to why Homestar doesn't wear pants is finally answered...almost.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Marzipan]] (Easter Egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Homestar's House]] (Easter Egg)

'''Date:''' March 28, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:04

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' And if I email you, girl! Woman! ''{He holds up pieces of paper that say "Girl." and "Woman." as he says those words}'' Oh, won't you email me, girl? Woman? ''{He holds up the papers again. Then he brings up the email:}''

Dear Strongbad,
Why doesn't homestar ever wear pants? It's kind of
creepy how he walks around with no pants on all the time.
Anyway, I think you should get him some pants, maybe some
parachute pants would work...yeah, that would work. Or maybe
some clown pants, I don't care, just get him some pants!
Tootles!
Clancy

''{Strong Bad skips everything between "Anyway" and "I don't care" and, instead, says "Blabbity blah, blah blebbity bloo". He also pronounces "Tootles" as "Toot-less" and "Clancy" as "Clanky".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, ''{begins typing}'' Too long, Clanky, too looong! Good thing you didn't indent, man, or this never woulda made it past my 2nd paragraph filter: ''{types 'run "Edga Jr."'}'' Edga Jr.

''{The splash screen for "Edga Jr. The Long Email Killa Filta" comes up}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, look at him. He's one o' dem red-haireded rapscalli... wags. ''{returns to the email}'' Well, I think we can salvage this one with a little editing. Let me once again call upon the services of my trusty, somewhat dusty, electronic light-pen ink-put high-tech expensive device! Now in HD! ''{he pulls out a correction pen having the words "X-PENSIVE WHITE" and shakes it}'' Just have to shake up the... expensive electrons here. All set! So, let's see! ''{he mumbles and says}'' Such a high-tech device... ''{as he whites out the words, producing:}''

Dear Strongbad,
Why <s>doesn't homestar ever</s> wear pants? <s>It's kind of</s>
creepy <s>how he walks around with no</s> pants <s>on</s> all the time.
<s>Anyway, I think you should</s> get <s>him</s> some <s>pants,</s> maybe <s>some</s>
parachute <s>pants would work...yeah, that would work. Or</s> maybe
<s>some</s> clown <s>pants, I don't</s> care, <s>just get him</s> some <s>p</s>ants!
Toot<s>les!</s>
Clancy

'''STRONG BAD:''' There! Now let's see what we got! ''{re-reads the altered email}'' Dear Strongbad, Why wear pants? Creepy pants all the time get some. Maybe parachute, maybe clown care. Some ants toot! Clanky. ''{begins typing}'' Now ''there's'' an email worth answering! Some ants toot. Tee-hee! ''{clears screen, but the correction fluid remains}'' So, why wear pants? An age old question. Was it not Adam West who once said, "E-

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Hey, Strong Bad! ''{camera pans back to show Homestar wearing very short purple pants}'' Check out my creepy pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looking away}'' Ew, Homestar! What're you wearing them Daisy Dukes for?!

''{Homestar's pants shine.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 'Cuz you said, "creepy pants all the time get some."

'''STRONG BAD:''' Get some what?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. Light globes?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sotto voce}'' Light globes.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You know, like in a lamp! Light globes! ''{his pants shine again}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So... you put on hotpants in the hopes of getting some lightbulbs.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Globes. ''{his pants shine again}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, since you're here, let's talk about your pants. Or your lack thereof. Daisy Dukes aside.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What are you talking about, Strong Bad? I wear long pants.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um... no, from what I can tell, you wear ''no'' pants and have blue soles glued to the bottoms of your feet. ''{indicates Homestar's feet}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, that's simply not true. I have long pants, I wear long pants. I'm a long pants man, long pants, long pants! ''{starts getting upset and dances around}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, calm down... I didn't mean to-

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{jumps high into the air, and convulses on Strong Bad's desk}'' Long pants, Strong Bad! The longest pants! Everybody everybody! Longest pants! ''{starts teleporting around the room, first appearing in front of Strong Bad, then leaning in behind him, then hanging upside down from the ceiling, then pixellated on the Lappy's screen, then blurred in the very foreground, then upside down under the desk, then in his original position, all while chanting the following}'' Long long long long long long pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, that's it! We need to get you some serious clown care, man!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But I was told long pants! Long pants! They said long pants! Always long pants! ''{leans toward Strong Bad}'' Long, my pants! Gleaming pants! Glorious pants! ''{runs away, leaving his pants behind. They fall on Strong Bad's foot.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bleh! Egh! BLEEEGGEHHEGH!

''{He attempts to shake the pants off. He eventually does, and The Cheat appears stage left to burn them to a crisp with the [[BMW Lighter]].}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{says something}''

''{The Cheat leaves, and Strong Bad turns back to the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Noice work, Clanky. You made Homestar go nuts and you've seriously creeped me out. And how am I supposed to get this crap offa here? ''{Everything starting with the "t" in "get" is obscured by the dried correction fluid. Strong Bad grabs a cloth and attempts to wipe the correction fluid off the screen, to no avail. He mutters:}'' Stupid... made-up technology... that I made up... Light pen... ''{mumbles}'' The Cheat! Call tech support and tell 'em you broke the Lappy again!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Selecting "Why wear pants" will bring up some fortune cookies, similar to those in the old [[Fortune Cookies]] game. As you hover the cursor over each one, it brings up a sentence of Strong Bad's "improved" email.
* Clicking on the socket under the table after Strong Bad says "Clown Care" brings up a business card for the service, [[Kertified Klown Kare]]. It reads:
Kertified
Klown Kare

-Pie Injuries
-Giant Foot Problems
-Wacky Malaria
-Grease Paint Poisoning

"Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs NOT ACCEPTED"
* Selecting "creeped" at the end of the email reveals a touching moment between Homestar and Marzipan.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' {''Lying in bed, crying''} Lonnnng paaaannnts!
*:'''MARZIPAN:''' Awww, there there, Homestar. It's not so bad. Everybody thinks I'm a broom.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Sits up suddenly, surprised}'' You're not a broom?

== Fun Facts ==
=== Explanations ===
*[[Wikipedia:Daisy Duke|Daisy Dukes]] are extremely short cut-offs, so named for the character from [[Wikipedia:The Dukes of Hazzard|The Dukes of Hazzard]] television show that wore them.

=== Trivia ===
*This is the first time Strong Bad has lowered his upper eyelids.

=== Remarks ===
*Homestar has been known to wear pants for certain [[Holiday Toons]].
*This is also the first time that Homestar wears pants outside of a Holiday Toon.
*Perhaps Strong Bad doesn't answer the original question because we already found out why Homestar doesn't wear pants in an Easter Egg to [[monument]]. Homestar was distracted by the [[Thnikkaman]] and never wound up putting pants on.
*They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway.
**Or, also he refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"
* This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.
* Can anyone read what the disks say on them?

=== Goofs ===
*Although Strong Bad puts pressure onto the Lappy's screen when trying to rub off the marker and when applying the white out, no ripples pop up on the screen.

*Strong Bad opens up Edga Jr. and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*After he clears the screen and starts writing about the age old question, Homestar comes in. you can clearly see the text the whole time Homestar is there, but when Homestar leaves and Strong Bad turns back to the Lappy, it's gone.

*The Klown Kare easter egg (by clicking on the socket) can still be clicked in the same location on the screen when the scene moves around.

*When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, He isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*When Homestar appears close-up to the camera, if you zoom in, you can see that the disk label is garbled, like it would be in a .jpeg file. Also, the table outline is a little bigger. But you cannot see it very well, because Homestar moves too fast, and the picture is gone before you have a chance to realize it, normally.

=== Inside References ===
*[[Edga Jr.]] is a reference to the e-mail [[virus]], where his ambiguous relation, [[Edgarware|Edgar]], created Strong Bad's virus protection program.
**Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to [[Tompkins]] and [[Ron Cumberdale]], one of the things the [[The Three Keepers of Trogdor]] turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.
*The "light pen" is based on the one from [[haircut]] - there, it was a black marker.
*Homestar's pixellated form is from [[Main Page 13]] and [[In Search of the Yello Dello]].
*The business card easter egg makes reference to the [[Tragic Clown Dog]] from [[part-time job]].
*Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Marzipan's line about people thinking she's a broom (Along with Homestar's response) is a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] where Homestar leaves a message calling Marzipan an "old broomstick".
*Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a reference to Bubs' Character page where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

=== Real-World References ===
*[[Wikipedia:Adam West| Adam West]] is an actor best known for his role as [[Batman]] on the campy '60s TV show.
* Strong Bad's holding cue cards at the beginning of the email could be a reference to the video for Bob Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues".
* "Clanky" may be a referrence to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank| Ratchet & Clank]].

== External Links ==
* [[HR:sbemail127.html|view "long pants"]]
* [[HR:sbemail127.swf|view the Flash file for "long pants"]]
* [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=2496 forum thread re: "long pants"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Lappy 486 Emails]] [[Category: Strong Bad Filmography]] [[Category: Homestar Runner Filmography]] [[Category: The Cheat Filmography]] [[Category: Marzipan Filmography]]

long pants

Mr. Sparkle — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:16:43 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Real-World References */

[[Image:sbemail127.png|thumb|Light globes]]
'''Strong Bad Email #127'''

The answer to why Homestar doesn't wear pants is finally answered...almost.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Marzipan]] (Easter Egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Homestar's House]] (Easter Egg)

'''Date:''' March 28, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:04

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' And if I email you, girl! Woman! ''{He holds up pieces of paper that say "Girl." and "Woman." as he says those words}'' Oh, won't you email me, girl? Woman? ''{He holds up the papers again. Then he brings up the email:}''

Dear Strongbad,
Why doesn't homestar ever wear pants? It's kind of
creepy how he walks around with no pants on all the time.
Anyway, I think you should get him some pants, maybe some
parachute pants would work...yeah, that would work. Or maybe
some clown pants, I don't care, just get him some pants!
Tootles!
Clancy

''{Strong Bad skips everything between "Anyway" and "I don't care" and, instead, says "Blabbity blah, blah blebbity bloo". He also pronounces "Tootles" as "Toot-less" and "Clancy" as "Clanky".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, ''{begins typing}'' Too long, Clanky, too looong! Good thing you didn't indent, man, or this never woulda made it past my 2nd paragraph filter: ''{types 'run "Edga Jr."'}'' Edga Jr.

''{The splash screen for "Edga Jr. The Long Email Killa Filta" comes up}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, look at him. He's one o' dem read-haireded rapscalli... wags. ''{returns to the email}'' Well, I think we can salvage this one with a little editing. Let me once again call upon the services of my trusty, somewhat dusty, electronic light-pen ink-put high-tech expensive device! Now in HD! ''{he pulls out a correction pen having the words "X-PENSIVE WHITE" and shakes it}'' Just have to shake up the... expensive electrons here. All set! So, let's see! ''{he mumbles and says}'' Such a high-tech device... ''{as he whites out the words, producing:}''

Dear Strongbad,
Why <s>doesn't homestar ever</s> wear pants? <s>It's kind of</s>
creepy <s>how he walks around with no</s> pants <s>on</s> all the time.
<s>Anyway, I think you should</s> get <s>him</s> some <s>pants,</s> maybe <s>some</s>
parachute <s>pants would work...yeah, that would work. Or</s> maybe
<s>some</s> clown <s>pants, I don't</s> care, <s>just get him</s> some <s>p</s>ants!
Toot<s>les!</s>
Clancy

'''STRONG BAD:''' There! Now let's see what we got! ''{re-reads the altered email}'' Dear Strongbad, Why wear pants? Creepy pants all the time get some. Maybe parachute, maybe clown care. Some ants toot! Clanky. ''{begins typing}'' Now ''there's'' an email worth answering! Some ants toot. Tee-hee! ''{clears screen, but the correction fluid remains}'' So, why wear pants? An age old question. Was it not Adam West who once said, "E-

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Hey, Strong Bad! ''{camera pans back to show Homestar wearing very short purple pants}'' Check out my creepy pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looking away}'' Ew, Homestar! What're you wearing them Daisy Dukes for?!

''{Homestar's pants shine.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 'Cuz you said, "creepy pants all the time get some."

'''STRONG BAD:''' Get some what?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. Light globes?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sotto voce}'' Light globes.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You know, like in a lamp! Light globes! ''{his pants shine again}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So... you put on hotpants in the hopes of getting some lightbulbs.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Globes. ''{his pants shine again}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, since you're here, let's talk about your pants. Or your lack thereof. Daisy Dukes aside.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What are you talking about, Strong Bad? I wear long pants.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um... no, from what I can tell, you wear ''no'' pants and have blue soles glued to the bottoms of your feet. ''{indicates Homestar's feet}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, that's simply not true. I have long pants that wear long pants. I'm a long pants man, long pants, long pants! ''{starts getting upset and dances around}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, calm down... I didn't mean to-

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{jumps high into the air, and convulses on Strong Bad's desk}'' Long pants, Strong Bad! The longest pants! Everybody everybody! Longest pants! ''{starts teleporting around the room, first appearing in front of Strong Bad, then leaning in behind him, then hanging upside down from the ceiling, then pixellated on the Lappy's screen, then blurred in the very foreground, then upside down under the desk, then in his original position, all while chanting the following}'' Long long long long long long pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, that's it! We need to get you some serious clown care, man!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But I was told long pants! Long pants! They said long pants! Always long pants! ''{leans toward Strong Bad}'' Long, my pants! Gleaming pants! Glorious pants! ''{runs away, leaving his pants behind. They fall on Strong Bad's foot.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bleh! Egh! BLEEEGGEHHEGH!

''{He attempts to shake the pants off. He eventually does, and The Cheat appears stage left to burn them to a crisp with the [[BMW Lighter]].}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{says something}''

''{The Cheat leaves, and Strong Bad turns back to the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Noice work, Clanky. You made Homestar go nuts and you've seriously creeped me out. And how am I supposed to get this crap offa here? ''{Everything starting with the "t" in "get" is obscured by the dried correction fluid. Strong Bad grabs a cloth and attempts to wipe the correction fluid off the screen, to no avail. He mutters:}'' Stupid... made-up technology... that I made up... Light pen... ''{mumbles}'' The Cheat! Call tech support and tell 'em you broke the Lappy again!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Selecting "Why wear pants" will bring up some fortune cookies, similar to those in the old [[Fortune Cookies]] game. As you hover the cursor over each one, it brings up a sentence of Strong Bad's "improved" email.
* Clicking on the socket under the table after Strong Bad says "Clown Care" brings up a business card for the service, [[Kertified Klown Kare]]. It reads:
Kertified
Klown Kare

-Pie Injuries
-Giant Foot Problems
-Wacky Malaria
-Grease Paint Poisoning

"Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs NOT ACCEPTED"
* Selecting "creeped" at the end of the email reveals a touching moment between Homestar and Marzipan.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' {''Lying in bed, crying''} Lonnnng paaaannnts!
*:'''MARZIPAN:''' Awww, there there, Homestar. It's not so bad. Everybody thinks I'm a broom.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Sits up suddenly, surprised}'' You're not a broom?

== Fun Facts ==
=== Explanations ===
*[[Wikipedia:Daisy Duke|Daisy Dukes]] are extremely short cut-offs, so named for the character from [[Wikipedia:The Dukes of Hazzard|The Dukes of Hazzard]] that wore them.

=== Trivia ===
*This is the first time Strong Bad has lowered his upper eyelids.

=== Remarks ===
*Homestar has been known to wear pants for certain [[Holiday Toons]].
*This is also the first time that Homestar wears pants outside of a Holiday Toon.
*Perhaps Strong Bad doesn't answer the original question because we already found out why Homestar doesn't wear pants in an Easter Egg to [[monument]]. Homestar was distracted by the [[Thnikkaman]] and never wound up putting pants on.
*They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway.
**Or, also he refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"
* This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

=== Goofs ===
*Although Strong Bad puts pressure onto the Lappy's screen when trying to rub off the marker and when applying the white out, no ripples pop up on the screen.

*Strong Bad opens up Edga Jr. and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*After he clears the screen and starts writing about the age old question, Homestar comes in. you can clearly see the text the whole time Homestar is there, but when Homestar leaves and Strong Bad turns back to the Lappy, it's gone.

*The Klown Kare easter egg (by clicking on the socket) can still be clicked in the same location on the screen when the scene moves around.

*When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, He isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

=== Inside References ===
*[[Edga Jr.]] is a reference to the e-mail [[virus]], where his ambiguous relation, [[Edgarware|Edgar]], created Strong Bad's virus protection program.
**Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to [[Tompkins]] and [[Ron Cumberdale]], one of the things the [[The Three Keepers of Trogdor]] turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.
*The "light pen" is based on the one from [[haircut]] - there, it was a black marker.
*Homestar's pixellated form is from [[Main Page 13]] and [[In Search of the Yello Dello]].
*The business card easter egg makes reference to the [[Tragic Clown Dog]] from [[part-time job]].
*Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Marzipan's line about people thinking she's a broom (Along with Homestar's response) is a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] where Homestar leaves a message calling Marzipan an "old broomstick".

=== Real-World References ===
*[[Wikipedia:Adam West| Adam West]] is an actor best known for his role as [[Batman]] on the campy '60s TV show.
* Strong Bad's holding cue cards at the beginning of the email could be a reference to the video for Bob Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues".
* "Clanky" may be a refference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank| Ratchet & Clank]].

== External Links ==
* [[HR:sbemail127.html|view "long pants"]]
* [[HR:sbemail127.swf|view the Flash file for "long pants"]]
* [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=2496 forum thread re: "long pants"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Lappy 486 Emails]] [[Category: Strong Bad Filmography]] [[Category: Homestar Runner Filmography]] [[Category: The Cheat Filmography]] [[Category: Marzipan Filmography]]

dreamail

Mr. Sparkle — Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:00:39 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Inside References */

[[Image:sbemail122.png|thumb|Strong Bad dreams of flight]]

'''Strong Bad Email #122'''

Strong Bad describes for us what his perfect email would be like.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Female Lappy 486]], [[The Cheat]], [[Homestar Runner]]

'''Date:''' January 10, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:55

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh oh, email's in the backyard, makin' some stew...

<pre>subject: Perfect email
Hey StrongBad,
I was just wondering: what do you look for in an email?
Another words,</pre>

''{Strong Bad temporarily stops reading}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh look! And there's some "another words."

<pre> describe that dream email that you would like
to recieve one day.
With lots of anticipation,
Danny Gedgafov from Glenview, IL
</pre>

''{Strong Bad has difficulty reading Danny's name, resulting in the following}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Danny Geh-geh-geh... gih-gih-gih... Gekakoff from Gliggityfoo, Illinois. ''{typing}'' My dream email. My "dreamail." ''{clears screen, resumes typing}'' Well plain ol' Danny, there are a lot of email-fish in the Email Sea. And while most of them are those nasty bottom-feeders with the suckhole mouth, there are a few that break the glimmering surface of the water, to glisten in the sunset for a few fleeting moments like some kind of glorious e-marlin. Another words, please allow me to ditch the fishing metaphor and hit you with the pink border.

''{A pink border appears around the edge of the screen, causing the center to turn white. The whiteness fades into Strong Bad at the Lappy, which now has a golden chain license-plate cover around its screen reading "MY LAPPY ATE YOUR DOG" at the top}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' OK orchestra, hit it! ''{The orchestra starts up, and Strong Bad sings in an operatic style}'' Email me tonight!

''{The orchestra hits its last two notes, and the Lappy booting sequence begins. However, the Lappy emblem now looks female with blonde hair, and speaks to Strong Bad with corresponding text appearing below it}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' Good morning, Strong Bad. You're looking prooty hot. You have one unread messages.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Why thank you, Lappy. You're looking prooty hot too. Onscreen!

''{Strong Bad clears the bootup screen, and reads the new email}''

<pre>subject: French countryside
Dear Mssr. Eleganté, You left your pocketwatch in the hot tub. When will you be
back to retrieve it?
-128 Hot Katies
</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' My Katies 1-128, 
Good to hear from all y'all (especially you, Katie 80). When my raucous schedule ''{pronounced as "shedule"}'' permits, I will triumphantly/abundantly ''{pronounced as triunphantly slash abundantly}'' return to the chateau for my ruby-encrusted pocketwatch. I have plans tonight, however, but I will, furthermore, heretofore, be back on morrow next. Please tell Adelaide that the poached eggs were tremendous. 
Forever Young, 
Chester Eleganté ''{Strong Bad hits enter, and the female Lappy icon appears back onscreen as the email disappears}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' Well played, Strong Bad. Those ladies are sure to be all up ons.

''{The pink border and such fades away as we cut back to the normal world}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh, man. If I got that email, I would have it bronzed and then dipped in...uh guacamole and The Cheat would read it to me every night at supper.

''{The scene cuts back to the pink border dreamworld, this time at a banquet table (made out of a door) with large windows in the background, a covered serving tray and a golden chalice (or maybe just a doorknob). Strong Bad rolls forward in a plush chair with fork in hand to where the serving tray is. The Cheat's arm improbably stretches out from the right side of the screen and lifts the cover}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh! Cadbury Cream Egg omelette! ''{calling offscreen}'' Continue, The Cheat.

''{The camera pans to the other end of the table, where The Cheat is sitting in a similar chair, holding a bronze plaque with guacamole all over it. The Cheat starts to read it, then growls, rubs part of the front of the plaque, and continues. The camera pans back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupting}'' Oh I love that part! Read it again, slowly, and... backwards.

''{The camera pans back to The Cheat, who starts to read backwards. Homestar Runner walks on-camera from the left side of the screen}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{while The Cheat is still reading}'' The Cheat! What's been up?

''{The camera pans back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, Strong Bad, found your pocketwatch. ''{Homestar tosses a ruby-encrusted pocketwatch in Strong Bad's omelette}'' Katie 80 said "What's up?" ''{camera pans back to The Cheat}'' So, The Cheat, what's been up?

''{The camera cuts to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Crap the what? The pink border is NOT holding up its end of the bargain. Come on, pink border, get your head in the game!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Pink border?

''{The scene cuts back to the real world, where Homestar is standing to the right of Strong Bad at his computer desk}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad, what are you talking aboot?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looks around for a moment}'' Oh, we're back here.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah. I found your pocket lint. ''{puts some pocket lint on the desk}'' And Marzipan says you're an ogre.

''{The camera focuses back on Strong Bad and the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Awww! I knew I should've went with a puffy white cloud border. Those things never let you down. Homestar never woulda shown up in a Puffy White Cloud Dreamail.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I do hate white clouds.

''{A center wipe suddenly happens with white clouds forming the border. Strong Bad's computer desk is now apparently in a submarine, with the text "NUCLEAR CLASS SUBMARINE 'SOCCERMOM'" painted on the inside of its hull. As Strong Bad types, some creature with a huge eye looks in through a nearby porthole. As well, the pinging of a sonar can be heard in the background}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And if you ignore all the facts and scientific evidence, then those weird little kids were right. Thanks for your question, Leonard Nimoy. I'll be back next week to solve another Celebrity Murder Mystery. ''{stops typing and stands up, addressing the camera}'' But right now, I gotta fly.

''{Strong Bad strikes a pose, and strings suddenly appear attached to him. Strong Bad makes various noises as he is lifted away to the upper right corner of the screen, where he gets stuck. The Paper, which now seems to be modeled after the U.S. Constitution, comes down with the Strong Bad email link looking like it's been written on it in marker}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "e-marlin" to cause an ASCII marlin to jump from the bottom of the screen.
*Click on the graffiti on Strong Bad's dream table to see a zoomed-in view of it. It reads, "Ooh dang, Strongbad! You go child!" and is signed "Jackeé".
*Click on the Lappy's screen at the end of the email to hear additional dialogue from the female Lappy.
=== Easter Egg Transcript ===
''{The Female Lappy appears back on-screen}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' Don't fly, Strong Bad. Please come down. I worry about you. I can see the strings.

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
* "You have one unread messages." is a reference to many computer programs that do not special case the number one - mostly because computer programmers are lazy. A correct program would have had the Female Lappy 486 saying, "You have one unread message." It is interesting to note that some programmers would "special case" the number one scenario by saying, "You have one unread message(s)." This approach does not require any extra code - just two extra text characters.
* Strong Bad's pronounciation of "schedule" is the British pronunciation of the word.
* The misspelling of "prooty" when Lappy 486 says "pretty" is a reference to old speech synthesizers like [[Wikipedia:Software Automatic Mouth|Software Automated Mouth]] that forced the user to use phonetic spelling to make the words come out right.
===Trivia===
* Unlike most other emails, the end screen does not have any sort of "back" button.
===Remarks===
* At the end of this email, [[The Paper]] seems to have been replaced by the U.S. Constitution.
* Strong Bad makes very subtle fun of Danny's misspelling of "receive" by having the 128 Katies ask him when he will be back to "retieve" his pocketwatch.
* Strong Bad finally spells "y'all" correctly. (Or as correctly as such slang can ever be spelled, anyway.)
* Homestar pronounces the word "about" with a steriotypically Canadian accent as "aboot", (but that's not what all Canadians sound like)
* When Strong Bad gets up, the customary "get up noise" does not occur.
* This is one of the few emails when we see Strong Bad actually "typing". One of the other times we see this is in [[dullard]], but Strong Bad's style of typing has changed since then.

===Goofs===
* The abbreviation for "Monsieur" is "M.", but it is misspelled as "Mssr." in the "French Countryside" e-mail.
** Actually, "Mssr." is the French abbreviation for Monseigneur.

===Inside References===
* The phrase "all up ons" is from the email [[suntan]].
* The Celebrity Murder Mystery is very similar to a comment made by Homsar in [[suntan]].
* When the female Lappy says she can see the strings, this is similar to an easter egg in [[lunch special]] when Homestar says this about Bubs levitating.
* The strings pulling up Strong Bad may be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]].

===Real-World References===
* Strong Bad's dreamail dinner table is made from the front door from the show [[Wikipedia:227 (TV series)|"227"]] and is signed by actress [[Wikipedia:Jackée Harry|Jackée Harry]] who played Sandra Clark on the late 80's sitcom.
* Strong Bad has two [[Wikipedia:Cadbury-Schweppes|Cadbury's]] [[Wikipedia:Cadbury's Creme Egg|Creme Egg]]s on his plate. These are chocolate Easter eggs with "cream" (which is pretty much frosting) inside. They're sold around Easter in the US, Canada and the UK, but are available year-round in Australia.
* The Female Lappy 486 is a reference to the 1968 Kubrick classic, ''[[imdb:tt0062622|2001: A Space Odyssey]]'' and the HAL 9000 computer's famously dry, "Good morning, Dave."
* The pink border is a reference to shows like [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], which used the same border for its dream sequences.
* The sign-off "Forever young" also appeared in an easter egg in [[personal favorites]]. It could be a reference to one of two songs of the same name: a Bob Dylan song from 1973 that became a hit for Rod Stewart in the 80s, or a (different) song by the 80s synth-pop group Alphaville.
* The email at the end is a reference to the mid-70's TV series [[imdb:tt0074007|"In Search of..."]], hosted by [[Wikipedia:Leonard Nimoy|Leonard Nimoy]], a show that dealt with "investigating" the paranormal and unsolved mysteries in usually sensationalistic ways. Strong Bad's line "And if you ignore all the facts and scientific evidence" reveals this, since this is how most "sensationalism" is achieved. Or it could be loosely referring to Treknobabble, a gimmick used on ''Star Trek'' to conveniently explain scientific happenings with terms that, while they sound impressive, are scientifically questionable.
* When Strong Bad says "On screen!" it is a reference to innumerable Star Trek episodes in which the captain gives the same command.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail122.html view "dreamail"] 
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail122.swf view the flash file for "dreamail"]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1703 forum thread re: "dreamail"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
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rock opera

Mr. Sparkle — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 23:19:46 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Trivia */

[[Image:sbemail_opera.png|thumb|SBEMAIL: The Musical]]

'''Strong Bad Email #125'''

Strong Bad sings his rock opera 'SBEMAIL!'.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Little Strong Bad]], [[Anonymous]], [[Tompkins]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Coach Z]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Marzipan]], [[Grape Nuts Robot]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[Bubs]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Homsar]], [[King of Town]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]] (easter egg)

'''Date:''' February 22, 2005

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' Checkin' email and take it to the flipside! !edispilf eht ot ti ekat dna liame 'nikcehC

<pre>
subject: rock opera

Strong Bad,
I think it's high time you composed a rock opera. You
simply owe it to society. What should it be about?
That's up to you.
Best Wishes,
Anonymous Contributor
Gambier, OH
</pre>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "Contributor" as "ContribuTOR" and "OH" as "hhhough"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh, poor guy. ''{typing}'' Hey! Mr. and Mrs. Contributor, way to name your kid! I can only imagine the taunts and jabs the kids on the playground musta come up with.

''{A piece of notebook paper appears onscreen with Teen Girl Squad-esque drawings on it. On it are drawings of a swingset, Strong Bad, and Anonymous, who looks suspiciously like Strong Sad with a question mark for a face. Anonymous is kicking a soccerball}''

'''NOTEBOOK STRONG BAD:''' Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a poem or something and not attribute it to yourself!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or like

''{The paper switches out. This one features Anonymous with his hands glued to his butt, Strong Bad, and Tompkins}''

'''NOTEBOOK STRONG BAD:''' Yo Anonny! Maybe try calling the cops and giving them some valuable information to help solve a crime without revealing your own identityyyy!

''{The paper disappears offscreen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh. Kids can be so cruel. ''{clears screen, resumes typing}'' OK, back on task. To tell you the truth, you guys have already heard mosta my rock opera. I've been composing it over the last three and a half years. It's simply entitled "SBEMAIL!" ''{A poster for SBEMAIL! appears onscreen}'' And the lyrics consist of one word from each of my 125 emails! ''{The poster disappears}'' Now, it may not make a whole lotta sense but when have I ever backed down from a bad idea, right? Now let's get this train-wreck a-rollin'!

''{Cut to some curtains, which open, beginning the opera}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Join me on my single—

'''STRONG SAD:''' 
hundred—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
toilet dreams picture. 
Everybody wanna scam some sweet bucks or potential—

'''LITTLE STRONG BAD:''' 
pizza. 

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Oh! Oh! Ummm. Nevermind. 
Ummm... double—

'''COACH Z:''' 
pants.

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Awesome, awesome fancy danish. 
Professional funky totally diggity-underdrawers. 
Oh tonight,—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 
cool,—

'''MARZIPAN:''' 
healthy,—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
ones, eh? 
Whatever action baby actually went jibblie. 
Oooh! Oh. Party like completely great, good. 
Down town ladies get consummate—

'''MARZIPAN:''' 
yeah.

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Awkward sweet peaches crackin' action! 
Wha-Ho! Problematic. 
Solid jumble!

'''GRAPE NUTS ROBOT:''' 
Crazy—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
beans double the real gold! 
Computer—

'''STRONG SAD:''' 
internet—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
bulging—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 
out.

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Yeah, oh! 
Dynomite afterparty! 
Like, fangoriously world-class and—

'''POWERED-BY-THE-CHEAT STRONG BAD:''' 
grand.

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Ooooh! Oh!

'''STRONG SAD:''' 
Ewww!

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Oh-ho-ho-ho! Definitely, definitely—

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' 
baby.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 
Yup,—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
I totally—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 
always—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
look awesome singing backwards metal. 
Experience dance tonight! Unh! 
Oooh! I'm pleasant. 
Positate without pizzaz and—

'''STINKOMAN:''' 
jam!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Whoa! 
Tonight equals dancing,

'''CANNED AUDIENCE:''' 
yeah!

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Famous—

'''FEMALE LAPPY:''' 
ladies—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
always like—

'''ALL:''' 
SBEMAIL!

''{The screen fades to black and the SBEMAIL! poster slides down from the top of the screen. Cut to the Lappy. Strong Bad is clapping and making crowd noises with his mouth while roses are being thrown on him from off camera}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bravo! Encore! Encore! �ndale! �ndale! Arriba! Arriba! ''{typing}'' Thank you! Thank you! The rave reviews are already pouring in! It's only a matter of time before the chicks ''{due to the keyboard getting covered in roses, this is typed as "It's only a msyyer pd tun/ blegfr teh chekts"}'' -uh.

''{The camera pulls out, and we see The Cheat on the computer desk holding a rose}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat... ixnay on the cut-it-out-throwing-roses-at-me! ...may.

'''THE CHEAT:''' Meh!

''{The Cheat throws his rose at Strong Bad's face and it sticks there}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Augh! ''{clutches his face, starts flailing his limbs wildly}'' Rose face! ROSE FACE!!! ''{falls off his stool}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy, where the Paper comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Click ''rave reviews'' to see some reviews of Sbemail:
**"SBEMAIL! Is a Triumph of Some Sort!!!" "It will leave you you wanting MORE, MORE, MORE!" -(Perhaps)The Deke
**"A million stars!!!" -Age 7
**"SBEMAIL! is better than a goat!!" - The biscuitdoughhandsman Review

* Click ''Pouring in'' to see a poster for SBEMAIL!
:"an off13 broadway rock opera from the man who brought you 'dangeresque: put em on ice!'"
*While on the poster, click 'Dangereresque: put em on ice' to see a clip of Dangeresque: Put 'Em On Ice!
::''{Cut to somewhere in The Field in winter, with a small ice pond in the foreground. Strong Bad (as Dangeresque) skates in from the right}''
::'''DANGERESQUE:''' So I'm gonna have to jum-
::''{Dangeresque falls through the ice.}''
::'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{offscreen}'' Meh! ''{throws a rose onto the ice}''
* Click the invisible ''Encore'' on the bottom-right of the Lappy screen to see the rock opera again.

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
* This is the first time where we see Strong Bad's whole body walking towards the viewer.
* This is the first email where all twelve main characters appear in person. (The Poopsmith and Pom-Pom were only on playing cards in [[your friends]] and [[different town]], respectively.)
* Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents.

=== Remarks ===
*The email rap and the flipside version are clips of Strong Bad saying the same thing, but they are different versions of it. If you reverse the clip, the most obvious difference is that the flipside version doesn't have a pause after the word "email."

=== Goofs ===
* You can still click the contrast buttons on the Tandy while the opera is playing, although it doesn't actually affect the contrast of the screen.
* When roses are being thrown with the Lappy in the background, you can't see the reflection of the roses on the Lappy screen.
* The Poopsmith, Bubs and Pom Pom all remain motionless when the cast yells "SBEMAIL!", though it may be that the Poopsmith is silent on purpose, courtesy of his vow of silence.
* When the cast yells "SBEMAIL!" Strong Mad's mouth appears on Homsar's torso for a few seconds.
* Though not noticeable without zooming in, once everyone has finished yelling "SBEMAIL!", Homsar's lip comes between Homestar's torso and his head; more specifically, in front of the head, and behind the torso.

=== Inside References ===
* The shoes that walk across the screen are the back button of the old main page.
* On the second making-fun-of-Anonymous piece-of-paper, Anonymous has his hands glued to his butt, which also happened to Strong Sad in the e-mail [[1 step ahead]].
* The [[Teen Girl Squad]] character Tompkins can be found on the second making-fun-of-Anonymous piece-of-paper, in his miniaturized form from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]].
* When Strong Bad's typing starts going awry as The Cheat is throwing roses at him, he types "the chicks" as "teh chekts", a reference to the immediately preceding Strong Bad E-mail [[secret recipes]].
**"Teh" is also a leetspeak word for "The".
* When Strong Bad appears to have two electric guitars sticking out of his head, it's a reference to the cover art for the CD [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]].
* Strong Bad sitting in the chair swirling the wine in the cup is modeled after a similar scene from the Powered-by-the-Cheat music video [[Everybody to the Limit]].
**Strong Bad also swirls his wine in [[montage]].
* The action figures of Strong Sad and Strong Bad are from the Strong Bad Email [[action figure]].
* The pants Coach Z temporarily dons seem to be modeled after [[Rather Dashing]]'s short pants.
* The background of the area with the pyramid of gold bars (pre-explosion) is taken directly from [[RhinoFeeder]].
* The "Goodtime Palace" is modeled after similar scenes from [[animal]] and even features [[Baby Styles]].
* The picture of the "Hardest Guitar Chord Ever" comes from [[privileges]].
* The jogging pixellated Strong Bad is originally from [[montage]].
* Club Technochocolate is originally from [[extra plug]].
* The rock music which starts at Club Technochocolate is based on ''The Cheat Is Not Dead'' from [[caper]].
* [[The Stage|The stage]] the entire cast is grouped on at the end is the same stage from [[A Decemberween Pageant]], among other holiday toons.
* The "biscuitdoughhandsman review" in the Easter Egg is yet another reference to everyone's favorite unapprehended villain, [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]].
* "The Deke" is originally from [[autobiography]].
* Strong Bad's dance move with [[Baby Styles]] is a reference to [[virus]] when he compliments Bubs for being a computer genius man.
* [[Vector Strong Bad]] makes an appearance, this time with rock and roll hair and a headband.
* "Sbemail" is a reference to the filename of every Strong Bad e-mail. Strong Bad also refers to this in [[unused emails]]
*This isn't the first time Strong Bad has spoken backwards, he also does it on [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]].

=== Real-World References ===
* Strong Bad's "�ndale! �ndale! Arriba! Arriba!" at the end is quoting the famous Warner Bros. cartoon mouse Speedy Gonzales except backwards as Speedy usually says Arriba! Arriba! �ndale! �ndale!
* The electric guitars in the opera are (or are modeled after) Gibson Flying Vs.
* The amps are modeled after Marshall stacks, but instead of "Marshall," the logo reads "An Amp". These were also used in [[different town]], but labeled "Marzipan".
*Sbemail, in containing multiple sections of different styles, is remiscent of such songs as The Who's "A Quick One, While He's Away" and (more famously) Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody."
*Strong Bad's rap at the beginning of the e-mail may be a reference to Missy Elliott's "Work It," where she says "I put my thang down flip it and reverse it! Ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gnaht ym tup I!"
*Strong Bad moving walking towards the camera while neon-signs fly by is also a common used movie-cliche when the main-character gets overwhelmed by the nightlife of the city.

== See Also ==
*The [[Rock Opera Context|context]] for all of the words from rock opera

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail125.html view "rock opera"] 
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail125.swf view the flash file for "rock opera"]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=2072 forum re: "rock opera"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Lappy 486 Emails]] [[Category: Strong Bad Filmography]] [[Category: Tompkins Filmography]] [[Category: Stinkoman Filmography]] [[Category: Strong Sad Filmography]] [[Category: The Cheat Filmography]] [[Category: Coach Z Filmography]] [[Category: Homestar Runner Filmography]] [[Category: Marzipan Filmography]] [[Category: The Poopsmith Filmography]] [[Category: Bubs Filmography]] [[Category: Strong Mad Filmography]] [[Category: Homsar Filmography]] [[Category: The King of Town Filmography]] [[Category: Pom Pom Filmography]] [[Category: Dangeresque Filmography]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Mr. Sparkle — Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:26:41 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* 'Til Death and all that */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Mr. Sparkle — Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:21:30 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* hellboy */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Mr. Sparkle — Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:17:08 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Weird laptop */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Mr. Sparkle — Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:31:55 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* It's odd considering... */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Mr. Sparkle — Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:30:12 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Ping */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Mr. Sparkle — Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:29:06 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* It's odd considering... */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Mr. Sparkle — Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:25:13 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Ping */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Mr. Sparkle — Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:22:43 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Not Plugged In */

HRWiki:WikiTroll

Mr. Sparkle — Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:45:41 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Offenders */

A WikiTroll is a person who purposefully defaces a document on a wiki. There are a few methods in place for dealing with WikiTrolls.

==How to revert a page==
Any page can be reverted back to a previous version. Here's how:
*''sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Position the radio buttons at the current version and the version you want to roll back to, then click "Compare selected versions". Next, click the "rollback" link near the upper right side of the page (directly to the right of the most recent author's name).
*''non-sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Then click on the time and date of the archived version you want to revert back to. The page will appear with the version indicated at the top of the page, just underneath the page title. Next, click "edit" at the top of the page. Add a note in the Summary box that you are reverting the page because of a troll, and then click "Save page".

After repeated defacings, an offender's IP address can be blocked by [[Special:Listadmins|several users]] who have admin rights. These admins pay careful attention to this page, and will [[Special:Ipblocklist|block]] IP addresses where/when appropriate.

== Known Offenders ==
If you see any suspicious, defamatory, or objectionable behavior by any individuals on our wiki, please add their IP address to the list following the same format as the example shown below. For our purposes, an "offense" is defined as the defacement of a single document of our wiki.

''Now, this table format might be a bit confusing, so if you can't figure it out, just toss the date, IP address, and pages defaced down at the bottom of the page and someone will fix it for you. We're flexible like that.''

=== Example ===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:127.0.0.1|127.0.0.1]] ([[Special:Contributions/127.0.0.1|all edits]]) || [[Main Page|Page Defaced]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=1 actual edit] || Description of dastardly deed.
|}

== Offenders ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| December 16, 2004 || 216.120.190.222 || || SEVERELY defaced [[Main Page]], [[Strong Bad Email]] and this page.

|-
| Sept 26, 2004 || 24.45.209.62 || || defaced [[Main Page]], [[Homsar Main Page]], [[comic]], [[pom pom]], and [[User:M.J|M.J]]. [[Special:Ipblocklist|Blocked]].

|-
| Sept 26, 2004 || 65.40.125.112 || || defaced [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Strongbadia]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Computer Room]], [[The Stick]], [[Free Country, USA]] and [[Crazy Go Nuts University]].

|-
| Sept 27, 2004 || User gokugod || || defaced [[Main Page]].

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| Sept 29, 2004 || 209.66.200.41 || || defaced [[Talk:Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 2, 2004 || 82.36.184.209 || || defaced [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Oct 4, 2004 || 65.95.109.254 || || added profanity to [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Oct 4, 2004 || 4.62.191.117 || || added profanity to the [[Main Page]].

|-
| Oct 5, 2004 || 211.26.31.96 || || deleted Fun Facts from [[other days]] and [[time capsule]], defaced [[time capsule]]

|-
| Oct 8, 2004 || 64.12.116.23 || || trolled [[Quotes]]

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| Oct 9, 2004 || 205.188.116.75 || || added pointless comment to [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 10, 2004 || 144.138.69.175 || || added pointless Fun Fact to [[time_capsule]]

|-
| Oct 12, 2004 || 68.100.148.11 || || - Replaced all text in the [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] with a link to the "page" '''ALL IS ON! FEEL IT FEEL IT FEEL IT FEEL IT!'''

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 4.130.51.240 || || Removed much of the material from [[Quotes]] that he apparently didn't like.

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 24.5.201.84 || || Removed the [[Main Page]], and trolled... the WikiTroll section

|-
| Oct. 14, 2004 || 194.83.70.7 || || Added mature content to [[Senor Mortgage]], [[Main Page]] and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]

|-
| Oct. 16, 2004 || 69.138.144.59 || || Created fake "Television Show" page

|-
| Oct. 16, 2004 || 24.129.85.150 || || Trolled [[Glossary]]

|-
| Oct 16, 2004 || 148.85.1.101 || || Vandalized [[HRWiki:About]]

|-
| Oct 17, 2004 || 24.117.133.95 || || Added profanity to [[Characters]]

|-
| Oct 19, 2004 || 67.169.0.163 || || Immature addition in Fun Facts on [[sibbie]].

|-
| Oct 19, 2004 || 212.159.79.225 || || Trolled [[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]]

|-
| Oct 20, 2004 || 210.84.225.173 || || Added rude comment to [[Legal]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 69.169.241.169 || || Trolled [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 163.11.255.34 || || Blanked and trolled [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 67.71.126.207 || || Defaced [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 24.205.80.66 || || Trolled [[halloweener]] and [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 80.46.168.155 || || Immature addition to [[Talk:Senor Mortgage]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 64.170.153.190 || || Trolled [[Cheap as Free]], [[Peasant's Quest]], and the [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 24, 2004 || 68.32.157.188 || || Trolled [[TROGDOR!]]

|-
| Oct 24, 2004 || 68.8.236.2 || || Defaced [[duck pond]]

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 68.166.4.182 || || Created [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]] and made profane comments.

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 4.26.82.103 || || Trolled [[Super Kingio Brothers]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]], and [[Isle of Pom]]

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 68.122.211.97 || || Trolled [[Under Construction]]

|-
| Oct 26, 2004 || 221.219.56.212 || || Added pointless links to [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 27, 2004 || 217.44.14.69 || || Added unecessary punctuation and pointless comment to [[Strong Bad Email]]

|-
| Oct 29, 2004 || 68.19.0.41 || || Created "The Simpsons" page

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 24.15.215.193 || || Defaced [[Main Page]], [[Toons]] and [[Halloween Fairstival]].

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 66.110.238.52 || || Defaced [[ghosts]]

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 61.49.205.19 || || Trolled [[labor day]]

|-
| Nov 1, 2004 || 69.179.54.246 || || Defaced [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]] by adding profanity to the Easter Egg transcript.

|-
| Nov 1, 2004 || 69.179.49.9 || || Defaced [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Nov 3, 2004 || 68.85.13.60 || || Trolled [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Nov 3, 2004 || 24.17.148.102 || || Trolled User:spellchecka

|-
| Nov 4, 2004 || 67.22.38.69 || || defaced [[labor day]]
|-
| Dec 5, 2004 || 67.22.38.69 || || defaced [[Fortune Cookies]]
|-
| Nov 4, 2004 || 63.226.185.4 || || Trolled [[Legal]] and made several nonsense pages

|-
| Nov 4, 2004 || 68.54.103.157 || || Deleted portions of the [[Main Page]] and [[Strong Bad Email]]

|-
| Nov 5, 2004 || 70.66.38.178 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] and [[Everybody Knows It]]

|-
| Nov 8, 2004 || 172.129.239.114 || || Deleted everything in [[Help:Contents]] and [[Powered by the Cheat]], deleted portions of [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]]

|-
| Nov 8, 2004 || 24.29.154.89 || || Trolled [[Pom Pom's girls]]

|-
| Nov 9, 2004 || 24.58.8.134 || || Trolled [[Stickly Man]], [[:Category:Main Characters]], and [[Experimental Film]]

|-
| Nov 10, 2004 || 12.202.201.107 || || Defaced [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 10, 2004 || 70.66.255.177 || || Added spam to [[Kobe|Kobe #1]]

|-
| Nov 12, 2004 || 170.222.38.239 || || Trolled [[japanese cartoon]]

|-
| Nov 13, 2004 || 221.219.63.133 || || Added spam to [[strongbad_email.exe]] and [[cheat talk]], and tons of other stuff, including this very page!

|-
| Nov 13, 2004 || 24.186.127.154 || || deleted large portions of "Rejects" page.

|-
| Nov 16, 2004 || 163.150.15.182 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] by adding "homsar woot woot" and a broken image link.

|-
| Nov 16, 2004 || 12.203.172.52 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] multiple times.

|-
| Nov 18, 2004 || 82.156.72.59 || || Created [[Fhqwhgads (karaoke)]], [[Dangeresque (karaoke)]], [[Nite Mamas (karaoke)]], and [[Trogdor! (karaoke)]] and placed profanity and offensive statements on the pages.

|-
| Nov 18, 2004 || 156.63.181.3 || || Replaced [[Main Page]], [[Talk:Main Page]] with one word, and [[Strong Bad Email]], and [[Talk:Strong Bad Email]] with no words.

|-
| Nov 18, 2004 || 151.197.42.190 || || Added rude comment to [[Day at the Park]]

|-
| Nov. 14, 2004 || 68.205.174.253 || || Defaced "Cheat" in [[Sightings]] by adding a fictional statement

|-
| Nov 19, 2004 || 211.147.232.81 || || Defaced Main Page

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 135.214.66.241 || || Added a talk page to [[gimmicks]] consisting of little but rather explicit descriptions of mature content.
|-
| Nov 19, 2004 || 135.214.66.241 || || Deleted content on the [[Main Page]], replacing it with a very rude comment.

|-
| Nov 20, 2004 || 12.203.198.152 || || Added a terrible comment to [[Craig Zobel]].

|-
| Nov 20, 2004 || User [[User:SonicTailsKnuckles|SonicTailsKnuckles]] || || Defaced 12.203.198.152's [[User_talk:12.203.198.152|talk page]] with personal insults, added spam to [[Main Page]] then deleted it

|-
| Nov 20, 2004 || 199.5.155.193 || || Created [[Ryan Sterritt]] page and added rude comment

|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 210.90.223.227 || || Added unneccesary external links to "Rejects" page

|-
| Oct 16, 2004 || 65.33.113.215 || || Added fake dialogue to the [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] transcript
|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 65.33.113.215 || || Created "Puppet Homestar Runner" page, added characters to [[Puppet Time]] and [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]] that don't appear in them, added fake dialogue to the [[virus]] transcript

|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 68.105.254.252 || || Created page "The weather in London" (that isn't supposed to be created)

|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 69.209.117.90 || || Trolled [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]'s userspace

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 69.14.27.229 || || Added "Matt is so cool" to [[Fluffy_Puff_Malloweens|Fluffy Puff Malloweens]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 66.245.193.136 || || Defaced [[virus]] and severely defaced [[pom pom]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 24.85.74.202 || || Defaced [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 128.205.249.1 || || Trolled the [[Main Page]] twice

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 24.107.93.135 || || Created page "The weather in London" (that isn't supposed to be created)

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 151.204.132.244 || || Deleted most of [[Quote of the Week]], trolled [[Senor Cardgage]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 205.118.81.5 || || Trolled [[The Brothers Chaps]] many times.

|-
| Nov 23, 2004 || 84.25.127.67 || || Created "No Loafing" and "Scroll Button Songs" pages with junk in them, defaced [[Strong Badman]], trolled [[User Talk:Stu]], and defaced [[Strong Bad Email]].

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || User ryanasaurus007 || || Put unneeded comment on [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 69.141.187.126 || || Put a bad external link and ad on top of [[Main Page]].

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 68.0.169.215 || || 'Dillon' Trolled [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]].

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 151.199.230.174 || || Trolled [[Pom Pom]]

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 213.249.155.235 || || Trolled [[:Image:the cheat.PNG]]

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 141.152.152.111 || || Changed "Decemberween" to "Novemberween" on [[Litigation Jackson]].

|-
| Nov 26, 2004 || 69.138.8.79 || || Added very profane comment to the [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]].

|-
| Nov 26, 2004 || 66.208.4.69 || || Defaced [[Main Page]].

|-
| Nov 27, 2004 || 69.240.123.103 || || Replaced most of [[Holiday Toons]] with "YOUR SITE IS BROKEN"

|-
| Nov 28, 2004 || 66.74.199.62 || || Defaced a section on [[Thy Dungeonman]].

|-
| Nov 28, 2004 || 203.227.166.71 || || Trolled [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 28, 2004 || 203.227.166.74 || || Trolled [[making out]]

|-
| Nov 29, 2004 || 216.120.190.137 || || Severely defaced [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 29, 2004 || 68.192.99.51 || || Trolled the [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 29, 2004 || 131.247.157.11 || || Blanked [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]]

|-
| Nov. 30, 2004 || 219.137.110.229 || || Added random and useless links to [[Main Page]].

|-
| Dec 1, 2004 || 24.166.217.163 || || Trolled [[stunt double]], created "blank page", "blargidy borfs", and "sjkergshkergh" pages. Also trolled the [[Main Page]], but reverted his trolling.

|-
| Dec 1, 2004 || 156.34.216.176 || || Added rude comment to [[Naked Ned]]

|-
| Dec 1, 2004 || 24.164.250.43 || || Created "tgies" page

|-
| Dec 2, 2004 || 68.8.170.118 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]]

|-
| Dec 2, 2004 || 165.161.3.12 || || Blanked image and large section of [[Cold One]]
|-
| Dec 3, 2004 || 165.161.3.12 || || Deleted paragraph of [[Cold One]], again

|-
| Dec 3, 2004 || 65.41.171.114 || || Personally attacked [[User:Cheatasaurusrex]] by putting "I am a stupid guy" in the black space.

|-
| Dec 3, 2004 || 24.154.200.247 || || Placing derogatory marks on [[Talk:Main Page]]

|-
| Dec 3, 2004 || 129.2.222.251 || || Removed a section on [[HRWiki:About]]

|-
| Nov 7, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Defaced [[Main Page]] and added horrible comment to [[Toons]], but removed his/her comment in Toons.
|-
| Dec 4, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Trolled [[User:Happy|Happy]]'s userspace four times (left horrible comments three times, deleted a large portion of the page once)
|-
| Dec 4, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Changed "Decemberween" to "Christmasween" in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]].

|-
| Dec 4, 2004 || 213.151.155.71 || || Added a degrading comment to [[:Image:trogdor.png]]

|-
| Dec 6, 2004 || 66.177.44.46 || || Trolled [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts]] twice
|-
| Dec 6, 2004 || 66.177.44.46 || || Created user page with foul language

|-
| Dec 6, 2004 || 68.39.170.49 || || Added "har har har" to [[HRWiki:About]].

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 152.163.100.203 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]].

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 65.117.156.222 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]].

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 66.117.231.96 || || Removed the <nowiki>{{sandbox}}</nowiki> template from [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 69.138.8.79 || || Added unneccesary comment to [[Main Page 22]]

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 61.49.205.85 || || Spammed [[cheatday]] and created twenty useless pages devoted to his/her spam.

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 156.63.21.14 || || Vanalized [[Main Page]]

|-
| Dec 9, 2004 || 142.177.79.134 || || Added keyboard mashings to [[army]].

|-
| Dec 9, 2004 || 66.167.217.47 || || Created worthless [[Wilbur]] page

|-
| Dec 9, 2004 || 219.134.99.206 || || Spammed Main Page and [[HRWiki talk:FAQ]].

|-
| Nov 10, 2004 || 69.136.111.77/[[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]] || || Trolled [[User Talk:FireBird]] twice by adding "I am dumb" and "I spelled Mozzillaa and grammar wrong", but then removed comments.
|-
| Dec 11, 2004 || 69.136.111.77/[[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]] || || Added rude and insulting comment to [[User Talk:FireBird]]. ("I don't like you.")

|-
| Dec 11, 2004 || 63.236.237.238 || || Trolled [[User:FireBird|Firebird]]'s user page by deleting it and talk by rewording it.

|-
| Dec 11, 2004 || 69.161.182.112 || || Added a false Linking Rule to the [[Links]] Page.

|-
| Dec 11, 2004 || 24.0.103.137 || || Spammed [[animal]].
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| Dec 12, 2004 || 24.0.103.137 || || Spammed 30+ pages, including [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The Cheat]], and [[Strong Bad]] several other biography pages similarly. Also spammed [[Help:Contents]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]], and the [[Main Page]] repeatedly

|-
| Dec 2, 2004 || 129.100.206.107 || || Trolled [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac's]] user page by adding "I'm a dork. A huge dork and loser. DELORTED!"

|-
| Jan 3, 2004 || 134.71.53.147 || || Went into [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] and deleted everything after the sample troll report, throwing in the phrase "omg pwnage!" like a 14-year-old gamer/hacker wannabe. We have to figure out how to block this IP. Doesn't look like it's his first attempts, according to the history.
|}

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:24.197.22.58|24.197.22.58]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.197.22.58|all edits]]) || [[HRWiki:About]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AAbout&diff=26619&oldid=26618] || Added "say werd" to the About page.
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:24.190.163.199|24.190.163.199]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.190.163.199|all edits]]) || [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3ASandbox&diff=26627&oldid=26626] || Removed header at the top of the [[HRWiki:Sandbox]].
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:70.240.248.4|70.240.248.4]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.240.248.4|all edits]]) || [[Matt Chapman]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Matt_Chapman&diff=26487&oldid=26380] (15 edits) || Drastically defaced [[Matt Chapman]].
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:65.117.156.222|65.117.156.222]] ([[Special:Contributions/65.117.156.222|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=26891&oldid=26887], [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=26892&oldid=26888] || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]] for a second time. Last time was on Dec 7th.
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:142.177.108.145|142.177.108.145]] ([[Special:Contributions/142.177.108.145|all edits]]) || [[super powers]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=super_powers&diff=27021&oldid=27011] || Added "DOUGLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" to Fun Facts in [[super powers]].
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| 12/15/2004 || [[User:61.145.130.190|61.145.130.190]] ([[Special:Contributions/61.145.130.190|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=27194&oldid=27189] || Defaced [[Main Page]] with advertisement.
|-
| 12/15/2004 || [[User:70.17.153.105|70.17.153.105]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.17.153.105|all edits]]) || [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Decemberween_Sweet_Cuppin%27_Cakes&diff=27280&oldid=27271] || Trolled with "virus" quote, followed by "LOL!"
|-
| 12/15/2004 || [[User:68.104.169.110|68.104.169.110]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.104.169.110|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=27369&oldid=27368] || Defaced several pages, including the [[Main Page]].
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:66.51.194.61|66.51.194.61]] ([[Special:Contributions/66.51.194.61|all edits]]) || [[extra plug]] || Added his name to many a places in the transcript.
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:134.9.15.38|134.9.15.38]] ([[Special:Contributions/134.9.15.38|all edits]]) || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] || Removed the inventory section and added "No Way!"
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:24.22.102.26|24.22.102.26]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.22.102.26|all edits]]) || [[Whaddya Know, Haddi-Man?]] || Added nonsense
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:69.154.209.207|69.154.209.207]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.154.209.207|all edits]]) || [Image:sbemail50.PNG][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=sbemail50.PNG&curid=2622&diff=27735&oldid=27732] || Trolled [Image:sbemail50.PNG].
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:199.126.157.20|199.126.157.20]] ([[Special:Contributions/199.126.157.20|all edits]]) || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peasant%27s_Quest_Walkthrough&curid=3090&diff=27739&oldid=27737] || Removed "DRESS like a peasant" in [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]].
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:68.184.255.94|68.184.255.94]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.184.255.94|all edits]]) || [[User:83.88.139.108]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:83.88.139.108], [[Homsar Runner]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Homsar_Runner]|| Created two pages apparently meant to troll users.
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:199.126.35.93|199.126.35.93]] ([[Special:Contributions/199.126.35.93|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=27782&oldid=27779], [[User:TheRealZajac]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:TheRealZajac&curid=4010&diff=27780&oldid=27776], [[Whaddya Know, Haddi-Man?]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Whaddya_Know%2C_Haddi-Man%3F&curid=3880&diff=27766&oldid=27763][[User:70.17.153.105]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:70.17.153.105&oldid=27764] || Trolled several pages including the [[Main Page]], added obscenities to [[User:TheRealZajac]], also threatened the site [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:TheRealZajac&oldid=27785](riiiiight...).
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| 12/17/2004 || [[User:216.120.190.30|216.120.190.30]] ([[Special:Contributions/216.120.190.30|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]], [[Strong Bad Email]], and WikiTroll || Defaced all three pages
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| 12/17/2004 || [[User:69.152.199.12|69.152.199.12]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.152.199.12|all edits]]) || [[3 wishes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Wishes&diff=27953&oldid=27947] || Deleted page
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| 12/17/2004 || [[User:64.63.232.186|64.63.232.186]] ([[Special:Contributions/64.63.232.186|all edits]]) || [[User:Mr. Strong Bad]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AMr._Strong_Bad&diff=0&oldid=28071] || Created and added gibberish to page
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| 12/18/2004 || [[User:24.95.42.131|24.95.42.131]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.95.42.131|all edits]] [[HRFWiki:Special:Contributions/24.95.42.131|all edits on fanstuff wiki]]) || Several pages on the [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff Wiki]]; [[Strong Mad's Room]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Mad%27s_Room&diff=28440&oldid=28433], [[HRWiki:Projects]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AProjects&diff=28445&oldid=28441], [[HRWiki:Cleanup]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3ACleanup&diff=28443&oldid=28439], [[Main Page]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=28446&oldid=28444] || Trolled several pages, including making rude and very obscene comments. Should be blocked.
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| 12/18/2004 || [[User:68.10.80.125|68.10.80.125]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.10.80.125|all edits]] || [[Ballad of the Sneak]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Ballad_of_The_Sneak&diff=28457&oldid=28434] || Added rude comment
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:68.215.158.33|68.215.158.33]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.215.158.33|all edits]]) || [Image:pomgirls.PNG][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Image%3Apomgirls.png&diff=28484&oldid=28474] || Defaced [Image:pomgirls.PNG].
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| 12/18/2004 || [[User:69.152.236.224|69.152.236.224]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.152.236.224|all edits]]) || [[Homestar Runner ]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&diff=28567&oldid=28561] || Defaced [[Homestar Runner]].
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| 12/18/2004 || [[User:70.64.34.61|70.64.34.61]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.64.34.61|all edits]]) || [[Strong Sad]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Sad&curid=956&diff=28735&oldid=28733] || Replaced text in [[Strong Sad]]'s bio with "Homsar rules".
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| 12/18/2004 || [[User:67.181.245.35|67.181.245.35]] ([[Special:Contributions/67.181.245.35|all edits]]) || [[radio]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=radio&curid=4163&diff=28768&oldid=28767] || Filled [[radio]] with links to online stores.
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| 12/18/2004 || [[User:68.91.91.113|68.91.91.113]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.91.91.113|all edits]]) || [[Gavin]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Gavin&diff=29043&oldid=29021] || Created [[Drasticpasticbarfmosis]] and included it on Gavin's page.
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| 12/20/2004 || [[User:60.55.58.202|60.55.58.202]] ([[Special:Contributions/60.55.58.202|all edits]]) || [[User talk:Kilroy]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKilroy&diff=29050&oldid=28799], [[HRWiki:Projects]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AProjects&diff=29061&oldid=28810], [[Talk:Floppy Disk Container Plus]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3AFloppy_Disk_Container_Plus&diff=28969&oldid=28785], [[Talk:your friends]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3Ayour_friends&diff=29065&oldid=28784] || Spammed several pages by adding useless links.
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| 12/20/2004 || [[User:210.49.167.191|210.49.167.191]] ([[Special:Contributions/210.49.167.191|all edits]]) || [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email The Poopsmith]] || Blanked page.
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| 12/20/2004 || [[User:60.55.57.90|60.55.57.90]] ([[Special:Contributions/60.55.57.90|all edits]]) || [[User talk:JoeyDay]], [[User Talk:FireBird]], and [[HRWiki:Welcoming Committee]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:JoeyDay&curid=739&diff=29200&oldid=29197] || Spammed page by adding useless links
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| 12/20/2004 || [[User: 24.209.223.70|24.209.223.70]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.209.223.70|all edits]]) || [[for kids]] || Added a fake transcript consiting of what seems to be a conversation with itself.
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| 12/21/2004 || [[User:69.110.228.72|69.110.228.72]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.110.228.72|all edits]]) || [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_vs._Little_Girl&curid=2869&diff=29244&oldid=29242] || Blanked transcript.
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| 12/21/2004 || [[User:68.39.156.170|68.39.156.170]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.39.156.170|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] || Changed Secret Pages link, then reverted.
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| 12/21/2004 || [[User:63.127.54.121|63.127.54.121]] ([[Special:Contributions/63.127.54.121|all edits]]) || [[Talk:Homestar's house]] || Added some immature comments.
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| 12/21/2004 || [[User:200.62.139.206|200.62.139.206]] ([[Special:Contributions/200.62.139.206|all edits]]) || [[User:The Paper]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AThe_Paper&diff=29489&oldid=29477] || Added keyboard mashings to [[User:The Paper]]
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| 12/21/2004 || [[User:64.12.116.136|64.12.116.136]] ([[Special:Contributions/64.12.116.136|all edits]]) || [[Secret Pages]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&curid=905&diff=29615&oldid=29613] || Cleared "Puppet Stuff" section, then adding "no more haha".
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| 12/21/2004 || [[User:69.153.5.143|69.153.5.143]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.153.5.143|all edits]]) || [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&curid=1159&diff=29624&oldid=29623] || Deleted the message at the top that ''clearly'' says "Don't Delete".
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| 12/21/2004 || [[User:68.57.242.91|68.57.242.91]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.57.242.91|all edits]]) || [[radio]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=radio&diff=29643&oldid=29640], [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=29648&oldid=29647], [[Neuconsin]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Neuconsin&diff=29655&oldid=29653] (Warning: This takes forever to load due to extent of trollage.)|| Trolled [[radio]], [[Main Page]], [[Neuconsin]], and created [[er]].
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| 12/22/2004 || [[User:24.203.226.202|24.203.226.202]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.203.226.202|all edits]]) || [[Snow Globe]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Snow_Globe&diff=29721&oldid=29716] || Made horrible, terrible curses on [[Snow Globe]].
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| 12/22/2004 || [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] ([[Special:Contributions/thatkidsam|all edits]]) || [[User:pixelated]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3Apixelated&diff=0&oldid=29747], [[User:screetchy cello]] || Created fake users [[User:pixelated|pixelated]] and [[User:screetchy cello|screetchy cello]]
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| 12/22/2004 || [[User:4.248.74.190|4.248.74.190]] ([[Special:Contributions/4.248.74.190|all edits]]) || [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&curid=1159&diff=30010&oldid=30009] || Specifically removed "Do not remove" line.
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| 12/23/2004 || [[User:152.163.100.200|152.163.100.200]] ([[Special:Contributions/152.163.100.200|all edits]]) || [[strongbad email.exe DVD Artwork]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=strongbad_email.exe_DVD_Artwork&diff=30272&oldid=30268] || Added, "I suck so bad," and British curse words to [[strongbad email.exe DVD Artwork]].
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| 12/26/2004 || [[User:64.12.116.6|64.12.116.6]] ([[Special:Contributions/64.12.116.6|all edits]])/[[User:spacemonkey|spacemonkey]]([[Special:Contributions/spacemonkey|all edits]]) || [[User:Renegade Master]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3ARenegade_Master&diff=30951&oldid=30948] || Trolled [[User:Renegade Master]]. This is a repeated offense.
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| 12/26/2004 || [[User:24.176.210.102|24.176.210.102]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.176.210.102|all edits]]) || [[Talk:The Future Animators of the Future]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3AThe_Future_Animators_of_the_Future&diff=0&oldid=30953] || Made obscene comments on [[Talk:The Future Animators of the Future]].
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| 12/26/2004 || [[User:12.215.155.217|12.215.155.217]] ([[Special:Contributions/12.215.155.217|all edits]]) || [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3ASandbox&diff=30975&oldid=30964], [[HRWiki talk:Sandbox]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:Sandbox&oldid=30972] || Deleted [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] and wrote a racial slur on [[HRWiki talk:Sandbox]].
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| 12/27/2004 || [[User:61.51.48.125|61.51.48.125]] ([[Special:Contributions/61.51.48.125|all edits]]) || [[sugarbob]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=sugarbob&diff=0&oldid=31105] || Added twenty six pages worth of spam all labeled SsS*, with * being a letter A-Z, and linked them to [[sugarbob]]'s 'External Links' section.
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| 12/27/2004 || [[User:60.55.58.64|60.55.58.64]] ([[Special:Contributions/60.55.58.64|all edits]]) || [[User talk:Kilroy]] || Spammed
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| 28/12/2004 || [[User:64.12.116.70|64.12.116.70]] ([[Special:Contributions/64.12.116.70|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=31255&oldid=31254] || Deleted everything on page and added small piece of text. Note: trolling is similar to that of [[User:64.12.116.6|64.12.116.6]]/[[User:spacemonkey|spacemonkey]].
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| 12/27/2004 || [[User:68.147.111.188|68.147.111.188]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.147.111.188|all edits]]) || [[Original Book]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Original_Book&diff=31275&oldid=31262]|| Trolled [[Original Book]].
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| 12/28/2004 || [[User:199.126.180.143|199.126.180.143]] ([[Special:Contributions/199.126.180.143|all edits]]) || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peasant%27s_Quest_Walkthrough&curid=3090&diff=31447&oldid=31446] || Changed "arrow" to "poo" in [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]].
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| 12/28/2004 || [[User:12.221.216.74|12.221.216.74]] ([[Special:Contributions/12.221.216.74|all edits]]) || [[radio]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=radio&curid=4163&diff=31518&oldid=31517] || Added profanity to [[radio]].
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| 12/29/2004 || [[User:68.11.225.151|68.11.225.151]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.11.225.151|all edits]]) || [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Lookin_at_a_Thing_in_a_Bag&diff=31650&oldid=31647], [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&curid=732&diff=31652&oldid=31645], [[Help:Contents]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Help:Contents&curid=845&diff=31655&oldid=31644], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Marshmallow%27s_Last_Stand_%28place%29&curid=1682&diff=31656&oldid=31643] || Trolled [[Help:Contents]], [[Strong Bad Email]], and more.
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| 12/30/2004 || [[User:64.246.132.116|64.246.132.116]] ([[Special:Contributions/64.246.132.116|all edits]]) || [[User talk:Renegade Master]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Renegade_Master&curid=4436&diff=31788&oldid=31782] || Trolled/spammed [[User talk:Renegade Master]].
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| 1/1/2005 || [[User:64.246.132.182|64.246.132.182]] ([[Special:Contributions/64.246.132.182|all edits]]) || [[User talk:Renegade Master]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARenegade_Master&diff=32360&oldid=32314] || Trolled [[User talk:Renegade Master]]. This user has been a nuisance (see above), and banning his IP won't work. Most likely it is a dynamic IP that can be reassigned at request. Tom banned 64.246.132.116, so the troll just requested a new IP -- that's why the first three numbers are identical. I don't know what further measures we can take against someone so stupidly determined to troll, but that's most likely what's happening.
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| 1/2/2005 || [[User:138.130.226.46|138.130.226.46]] ([[Special:Contributions/138.130.226.46|all edits]]) || [[Quote of the Week]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&curid=906&diff=32853&oldid=32852] || Blanked [[Quote of the Week]].
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| 1/3/2005 || [[User:221.219.63.211|221.219.63.211]] ([[Special:Contributions/221.219.63.211|all edits]]) || [[Mrs. Bennedetto]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Mrs._Bennedetto&oldid=33173] || Added "SsSs" and a link to the same. Also created various spam pages, including [[SsSa]], [[SsSb]], [[SsSc]], etc. Same M.O. as [[User:61.51.48.125|61.51.48.125]].
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| 1/3/2005 || [[User:69.151.117.197|69.151.117.197]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.151.117.197|all edits]]) ||Many|| Changed text to 'defaced'd' on several pages, including main page and this page
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| 1/4/2005 || [[User:69.152.214.49|69.152.214.49]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.152.214.49|all edits]]) ||Many|| Changed text to 'defaced'd' on several pages, including main page and this page
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| 1/4/2005 || [[User:221.219.51.57|221.219.51.57]] ([[Special:Contributions/221.219.51.57|all edits]]) ||Starts on [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Phonetime_Xl8&oldid=33791 Phonetime Xl8] || [[User:221.219.63.211|221.219.63.211]] Style defacement
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| 1/5/2005 || [[User:68.189.231.102|68.189.231.102]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.189.231.102|all edits]]) || [[Characters]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Characters&curid=930&diff=33827&oldid=33821] || Trolled [[Characters]].
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| 1/5/2005 || [[User:66.124.9.92|66.124.9.92]] ([[Special:Contributions/66.124.9.92|all edits]]) || [[Strong Bad]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad&curid=817&diff=33838&oldid=33835] || Added obscenities to [[Strong Bad]].
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| 1/5/2005 || [[User:81.132.73.36|81.132.73.36]] ([[Special:Contributions/81.132.73.36|all edits]]) || [[Sightings]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Sightings&curid=1513&diff=33981&oldid=33972] || Added obscenity to [[Sightings]].
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| 1/5/2005 || [[User:68.220.39.93|68.220.39.93]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.220.39.93|all edits]]) || [[The Paper]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Paper&curid=829&diff=34112&oldid=34093] || Defaced [[The Paper]].
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| 1/5/2005 || [[User:156.34.248.211|156.34.248.211]] ([[Special:Contributions/156.34.248.211|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=34086&oldid=34073] || Trolled [[Main Page]].
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| 1/6/2005 || [[User:216.198.85.218|216.198.85.218]] ([[Special:Contributions/216.198.85.218|all edits]]) || [[3 Wishes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Wishes&diff=34387&oldid=34385] || Trolled [[3 Wishes]] with 24.28.123.123
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| 1/6/2005 || [[User:24.28.123.123|24.28.123.123]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.28.123.123|all edits]]) || [[3 Wishes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Wishes&diff=34394&oldid=34390] || Trolled [[3 Wishes]] with 216.198.85.218
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| 1/6/2005 || [[User:156.34.248.211|156.34.248.211]] ([[Special:Contributions/156.34.248.211|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=34474&oldid=34469] || Spammed [[Main Page]].
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| 1/6/2005 || [[User:213.228.80.165|213.228.80.165]] ([[Special:Contributions/213.228.80.165|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=34541] || Spammed [[Main Page]]
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| 1/6/2005 || [[User:68.68.128.19|68.68.128.19]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.68.128.19|all edits]]) || [[Teen Girl Squad]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad&curid=850&diff=34556&oldid=34553] || Deleted portion of [[Teen Girl Squad]].
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| 1/7/2005 || [[User:60.55.58.50|60.55.58.50]] ([[Special:Contributions/60.55.58.50|all edits]]) || [[User talk:Kilroy]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Kilroy&curid=1231&diff=34688&oldid=34687] [[User Talk:JoeyDay]] || Trolled [[User Talk:Kilroy]] and [[User Talk:JoeyDay]] with those now-common useless links.
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| 1/7/2005 || [[User:216.120.190.122|216.120.190.122]] ([[Special:Contributions/216.120.190.122|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=34728&oldid=34727&PHPSESSID=f911c69fe6458bb806d0d33549820bac] || Vandalized [[Main Page]].
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| 1/7/2005 || [[User:66.41.150.114|66.41.150.114]] ([[Special:Contributions/66.41.150.114|all edits]]) || [[Salad Turning]] || Created [[Salad Turning]].
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| 1/7/2005 || [[User:66.82.9.37|66.82.9.37]] ([[Special:Contributions/66.82.9.37|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=34897&oldid=34896] || Vandalized [[Main Page]].
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| 1/7/2005 || [[User:67.183.78.70|67.183.78.70]] ([[Special:Contributions/67.183.78.70|all edits]]) || [[Homestar's Twirly Hat]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar%27s_Twirly_Hat&oldid=35191] || Created [[Homestar's Twirly Hat]].
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| 1/8/2005 || [[User:24.62.164.107|24.62.164.107]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.62.164.107|all edits]]) || [[Graffiti Wall]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Graffiti_Wall&curid=1632&diff=35476&oldid=35471] || Deleted portion of [[Graffiti Wall]].
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| 1/8/2005 || [[User:69.159.14.70|69.159.14.70]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.159.14.70|all edits]]) || [[Homestar Runner]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&curid=819&diff=35496&oldid=35495] || Trolled [[Homestar Runner]].
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| 1/8/2005 || [[User:12.222.199.193|12.222.199.193]] ([[Special:Contributions/12.222.199.193|all edits]]) || [[:Image:thydungeonman.png]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Image%3Athydungeonman.png&diff=35498&oldid=35493] || Trolled [[:Image:thydungeonman.png]].
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| 1/10/2005 || [[User:62.37.193.96|62.37.193.96]] ([[Special:Contributions/62.37.193.96|all edits]]) || [[property of ones]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=property_of_ones&curid=944&diff=35617&oldid=35616] || Spammed [[property of ones]].
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| 1/10/2005 || [[User:221.219.63.14|221.219.63.14]] ([[Special:Contributions/221.219.63.14|all edits]]) || [[Main Page 19]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page_19&curid=1487&diff=35950&oldid=35940], [[SsSa]], etc. || Created various spam pages, including [[SsSa]], [[SsSb]], [[SsSc]], etc. Same M.O. as [[User:61.51.48.125|61.51.48.125]], [[User:221.219.63.211|221.219.63.211]].
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| 1/11/2005 || [[User:198.234.124.150|198.234.124.150]] ([[Special:Contributions/198.234.124.150|all edits]]) || [[english paper]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=english_paper&curid=1066&diff=36122&oldid=36120] || Defaced [[english paper]].
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| 1/11/2005 || [[User:69.245.217.37|69.245.217.37]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.245.217.37|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=36306], [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&oldid=36304] || Defaced [[Main Page]] and [[Strong Bad Email]].
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| 1/11/2005 || [[User:128.187.0.165|128.187.0.165]] Defaced Main Page.

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Mr. Sparkle — Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:02:14 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Weird laptop */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Mr. Sparkle — Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:59:27 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Trust */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Mr. Sparkle — Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:58:53 GMT

Mr. Sparkle: /* Trust */

User:Mr. Sparkle

Mr. Sparkle — Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:42:11 GMT

Mr. Sparkle:

MR. SSSSSSSSSSSSPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKLLLLEEEEEEEE

I am disrespect to dirt and grime(Not you,so dont worry)