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Mick — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 02:44:53 GMT

Mick: Donno where I should put this..

== Temporary name / New name ==
"Sysop water cooler" is really only intended to be a temprorary name. It just doesn't say Homestar Runner to me. I'm thinking of something more along the lines of "The Stick", but that name's already taken for our community portal. Anybody have any good ideas? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:22, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:"Bubs' Concession Stand". "Cheat Commandos Headquarters". "Behind the Fence". "Marshmallow's Last Stand". <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:26, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I'm not a sysop, but I'm thinking between
*Bubs' Concession Stand
*The Locker Room
*(or my personal favorite) The Grill
You have The Stick, why not The Grill?
[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:00, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Those are all great names. None of them have the same oomph as "The Stick" though. I do kinda like "Behind the Fence". Let's keep thinking. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 16:53, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::I like "Marshmallow's Last Stand" and "Behind the Fence" the best. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:00, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::My favorite that I've thought of: "Strongbadia/Sysop Action Cool News" We're investiga-awesome!

::::Heh. I like that. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::::Also: "The Couch" (guess I'm just a fount of ideas ;) ) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:27, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::::Ooh! Ooh! "da Basement" from [[Arcade Game]]. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:30, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Buffalo-style Ranch. Haha. Style. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::I love "Da Basement". <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:35, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::::::I'm down with "Da Basement" as well. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 18:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Yeah! Da Basement! {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 18:34, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::::::Sounds good to me. I'll move the page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::This page is awsome, and it even has my widescreen pic on it! That one took me close to half an hour to crop them together, glad to see my pic is going to good use. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:17, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

==Recent Vandel Attack==

Just to let you know, the recent vandel attack was done by zombies, which are computers infected with a trojan. A proxy block list won't block these bots. Anyways, I'm begun to pick apart mediawiki and see if I can make a bot-prevention script for you guys/the other wikis out there. Think of something a bot can't read. [Big ol' Hint: a image] [PS, move this if this is in the wrong place] - [[User:Mick|Mick]]

User:Mick

Mick — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:49:34 GMT

Mick: Bah.. forget that..

User:Mick

Mick — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:39:13 GMT

Mick: I really don't know why I ramble like this all the time.. Hmm..

Heywo! I'm Mick.

I'm just a lurker around here, perhaps helping out in some places sometimes.. randomly.

==Images==
I like Images! I thought I may go around the wiki a bit giving a few images some much needed crushing down, without losing quality of course! I'll probably do that later. :) Sometimes I can trim an image down 50% of its original filesize using pngout.

==Capcatcha?==
However you spell that..

A idea for MediaWiki is to put a special image whenever a anonymous user tries to edit a page. This can help prevent vandal attacks by bots [or zombie bots] and the like. You can also use it on the login/register page to prevent bots from registering accounts to bypass it. It's likely the image wouldn't be needed for users who are already logged in. [This is, so far, a concept]

The idea is simple, text is read easily by a vandal bot program, but a image is quite tricky. And if a bot learns how to read the image we simply use a new method of image generation. Generally for every edit/login a image is generated with a special code. The image probally has some method to help prevent robots from easily reading it. After the code is used, it's thrown out and a new one is generated.

My method includes a simple number put into the image generator. The generator take that number, and then matches it to a list of known codes. [Number, the id of the code. The code is the letters displayed on the image] It takes the code that matches the number [the number and the code are different from each other, and are both randomly generated], then uses a image generation method to put that code into a image designed to prevent bots from reading it. The user would then enter that code into a web form, and the program it's in [like MediaWiki] finds it to match, then it allows the edit/login/register/whatever it's put on.

The image is easy to read for humans, but the idea is that it isn't easily read by vandal bots.

And to me that's a very effective means to help prevent abuse of a wiki. :)

The code I've written can be sampled here:

http://micksam7.com/antibot.php

The above link only generates random text, but when a correct number is put in it always sends the same code, just changes the colors, positioning, and various other things every time it's generated.

http://micksam7.com/antibot.php?securecode&42563873

When actually in use, it will delete the number and code and generate a new one. [Note that only certin numbers work, otherwise it'll generate a random code as a added measure]

For added security, the list of codes and numbers can be deleted and regenerated in each night. The list ussually makes up of a few thousand codes, but regenerates rather quickly. [As I really like optimization of scripts more then anything else.] The above examples are coded in PHP and will work on PHP 4 and above with the GD library installed [most hosts have it installed already]. Coded with optimization in mind, so it shouldn't affect server speed at all. :)

Right now I'm balenceing homework with my own personal projects [I'm in the 11th grade, and I program for a hobby, programming for the past 2 or so years]. I'll be attempting to create a easy-to-install "Modification" of this idea for MediaWiki.. if I get the time.

Thanks! And sorry for any grammical errors or any massive confusing I may have caused. :)

==Contacting==

Why would anyone contact me? I donno.

* Email: micksam7@micksam7.com
* Website: http://micksam7.com/
* AIM: micksam7
* Yahoo!: micksam_7
* MSN: micksam7@hotmail.com
* Jabber: micksam7@jabber.org
* SILC: micksam7
* IRC: micksam7 -> irc.chat-addict.net -> #stats

User talk:Mick

Mick — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:00:04 GMT

Mick: Thanks to The Paper

== Welcome! ==
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Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. Afterall, your [[HRWiki:User page|user page]] belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:49, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

== Signing ==

Just letting you know you can sign posts by typing four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. That should make life easier. It adds a timestamp and everything! Welcome again to the wiki. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 01:19, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah I know but I haven't really made the sig how I want it yet. Uhm.. yeah, thanks. - [[User:Mick|Mick]] 01:21, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::No, I mean if you do it now, it will do <nowiki>[[User:Mick|Mick]] 01:21, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)</nowiki> for you too. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 01:25, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::Bah, ok ok I got it. - [[User:Mick|Mick]] 01:26, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Editing your page ==

I hope you don't mind me [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Mick&diff=next&oldid=166484 editing your user page] to fix a few minor things; feel free to revert the edit if you had intended to preserve those typographical artifacts. :) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 13:04, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks, I forget to proof-read sometimes. :) - [[User:Mick|Mick]] 21:00, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

User:Mick

Mick — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 01:33:08 GMT

Mick:

User talk:Mick

Mick — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 01:26:50 GMT

Mick:

User talk:Mick

Mick — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 01:24:06 GMT

Mick: Ok.. time to play with the sig. -.-

User talk:Mick

Mick — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 01:23:37 GMT

Mick: Reply'd

Talk:geddup noise

Mick — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 01:17:51 GMT

Mick: Minor formatting fix

==geddup noise techno==
The Cheat stole my thunder! I made [http://www.macband.com/songs/electronica/1076434286.shtml a bad techno song] once that mentioned the Geddup noise. It didn't actually have the noise in it, though.

*I had no idea that the Get up noise evan existed, I geuss I don't pay attention to detail. _[[User:24.62.243.222|24.62.243.222]] 01:25, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==steve buttz==
dont you guys notice that the e-mail he was ansering when he got a phone call was from steve buttz? i think you should
note that.-[[User:Timmy!]]
:Um, yeah, we do that.
<blockquote>The email kids' book is on the Compy 386 when the Geddup Noise gets his phone call. Kids' book is the 84th email Strong Bad mentioned.</blockquote>
:See? It's in the remarks section. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
==corporate magazines==
do we really need the strong sad/kurt cobain refernce in both remarks, and real world references? having it in one or the other would make more sense. - '''''[[User:i know. can you believe it?|i know. can you believe it?]]'''''
:Taken care of. Thnks for pointing it out. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 14:10, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:In future it'd be easier for you to just fix it yourself. When an article comes out for something new like this, there's usually a lot of frenzied editing, everyone wants to get their point in. Duplicates do often turn up - just delete one, leave whichever one is more grammatical/detailed/in a more appropriate section. {{User:phlip/sig}} 14:23, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
==OMG Kevin!==
Homestar being called Kevin is referring to [[the bet]], right? -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 15:05, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Adding to the Cast ==

Shouldn't we add The Geddup Noise and Chairscoot to the cast for this email, since they're kinda referred to as characters throughout?
--[[User:Tigz|Tigz]] 15:17, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:No, we shouldn't. But we should make a page for the Geddup Noise. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 15:21, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Get Up Kids?==
Does it seem likely/noteworthy to anyone that the e-mail (esp. in relation indie music) was vaguely referencing or inspired by the (recently broken-up) band The Get Up Kids? If so, someone should write that into the article in an elegant fashion. Perhaps. -[[User:Sinisterscrawl|Sinisterscrawl]] 16:41, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:As cool as the Get Up Kids are/were, I don't think there's any connection there. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}}

Cool! Mike visited the site! ''{does the h*r creator man dance}'' --[[HRFWiki:User:Homfrog|Homfrog]]

OH MY GOODNESS. ''*stares at Mike's post with a =D face*'' If you're an imposter, I slap you. I doubt you are an imposter dude. Otherwise... HOLY CRAP MIKE VISITED THE WIKI! ''CASUALLY!'' --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:24, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Um, no. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:30, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I doubt it's Mike... I mean, really, how hard is it to type the words "Mike Chap"... But who knows? {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:54, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shoshoni & Coches ==
I'm too lazy to do it myself, but ought there to be some Explanations for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoshoni Shoshoni] and Coches? A cursory, 5-minute search has failed to give me a good idea of where the latter are; just some ski resort sites in other languages. I assume they're a mountain range in either France or Spain or both, but if it's that far removed from common knowledge an Explanation might be in order. [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]]

"coches" is spanish for cars. not sure if this is related. sarducci

"les coches" is a ski resort

== Coach Z's Dance ==

_Not_ the one from folky tale. In folky tale, coach Z hops from foot to foot while pumping his arms up and down above his head. In the easter egg, he hops on one foot (his right) across the screen with his arms down at his sides, moving slightly up-and down. Deleted the "inside reference" claiming it was the same. -sarducci
:It's similar, though. But still not the same. My first thought, though, was the 'I'm Just Me' song and dance from [[record book]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Oh, good catch. I does seem to be identical to the I'm just me dance, cept he's moving across the screen, not just up and down. Is this worth a mention? -sarducci
::Might be worth a mention. I dunno. If people don't like it, they can always STUFF it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Strong Mad said what? ==

It sounded to me like Strong Mad said "YOU SUCK!" instead of "BLUE SOCK!" Anybody else think so? [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]] 19:17, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:It did sound like that a little, but "BLUE SOCK" definitely fits the context better. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::But wouldn't that explain why Strong Bad was embarassed to have shown that "clip"? [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]] 19:40, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I heard you suck at first, but a closer listen revealed blue sock to be true. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:43, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::No, it wouldn't. It showed Strong Bad selling out and imitating The Geddup Noise, which would be embarrassing to someone like Strong Bad, don'cha think? "Blue sock" definitely fits better. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:24, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::Actually, to me it sounds like a mix: "YOU SUCK BLUE SOCK!", and the fact that HE did a ripoff is rather embarassing. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 23:43, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::I reckon he said "BLUE SOCK!". {{User:Rainer/sig}} 06:50, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::At first I thought he said "BLUE SUCKS!" but I soon realized it was "BLUE SOCK!" -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:51, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I had also thought he said "you suck". I didn't know until I saw the transcript. "You suck" would have been funnier though. [[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 19:41, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)
It's pretty clear that most people need to get better speakers. These agurments about lines are ridiculous since it's obvious what they said if you listen properly. Try headphones, they do a good job.

== It's About Freakin' Time! ==

Anyone else find it weird that for almost 2 months, TBC diddn't do any SBEmails (almost all they do) to do two big toons, two shorts, multiple Lament updates, a new main page, a new navigation feature, and add several new products to the store? Plus several of the newer emails have sucked. I think the SBEmails are dying.---[[User:RatherAnnoying|RatherAnnoying]]

-If you noticed, they said they were putting out a DVD of all the non Strong bad email stuff, so they were probably just rushing to get out all the ideas they had for toons before the DVD went to press......Nah...

-I think they were trying to fill up the site with newer stuff for a few possible reasons.
A.) Trying to make sure that their site has things other than the SBEmail get updated.
B.)Trying to get enough toons and shorts added so they can release a Toons DVD.
C.) Perhaps they figured that all those updates might help boost the sites popularity.
I do think it should be noted about how this is the first SBEmail in a while. [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

2 months without an e-mail
And this is the demented result...
I'll be happier when Stinkoman level 10 comes out (I hope)...
Man, some of the e-mails I sent had such cool premises, and THEY ANSWER ONE ABOUT THE NOISE STRONG BAD MAKES WHEN HE GETS OFF HIS CHAIR...
GUUH GUUUH GUH...

Signed, this may very well be my least favorite email. I-- it's... just not funny. {{User:Tom Epsilon/sig}}

Definity. its the worst email ive seen. maybe it was good that they didnt have a new one in a while. the next one better be better. [[User:Darkstalker|Darkstalker]]

I don't know about you guys but I liked this email. But to answer your theory about SB emails dieing it just seems like TBC are just trying to do new things like new shorts and toons as apposed to putting-up an email each and every week. [[User:Stinkoman Z|Stinkoman Z]]
:: I second that. My sentiments exactly. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:22, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
y'all are so whack! this e-mail was good! '''''[[User:i know. can you believe it?|i know. can you believe it?]]'''''

I did like this email (I categorize it as decent) but it was nowhere near as great as some others (i.e. the one referenced to in this email). Recent ones that simply were not good at all include lady...ing, boring [really], and modeling. (I know people will disagree with me there, but it is not neccesary to bloat this page with your complaints).---[[User:RatherAnnoying|RatherAnnoying]]
::On a similar note, anyone notice how Pom Pom's appearences are becoming less and less. Wihile it sucks, it is perfectly understandable: Pom Pom's inability to talk makes him hard to use, and he lacks an additional "catch" that makes talking unnecessary like The Cheat and The Poopsmith have.
::::I would disagree that Pom Pom lacks a "catch," so to speak. It's just that his catch isn't as easy to work into the silly, fun nature of the cartoons. He talks to fine honeys on his cell phone([[Pom Pom]]), he collects money from girls([[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]), and in [[Homestarloween Party]] he adds hot bikini girls with beer to the car(or, rather, adds them sitting around the car). Pom Pom is the pimp jokes, from what I've seen, and in a universe as asexual as the H*R universe they're harder to work in. [[User:Bennedetto|Bennedetto]]

== Goofs and a Question ==

I have several points/questions:

* In the part where Strong Bad immitates the ''Geddup Noise'' with the ''Git Outcha Seat Sound'', if you notice, the chair his sitting on only has three legs! (And there's no way the perspective would hide the 4th leg)

* I'm not sure if this counts as a goof: When you click on the notepad easter egg, you can click on the back pages (over where the stool is) and still get the Technochocolate easter egg.

* Finally, I noticed that both of Bubs' eyelids closed when Coach Z was making his first impression of the ''Geddup Noise''. I'm wondering, is this the first time he does that? I don't remember ever seeing him do that before.

That's enough for now. I'm still new at this, so I appreciate your input! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:13, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Also, I made a link addittion, but I cannot corroborate the change made by 65.163.168.10 (in the [[geddup_noise#Inside_References|Inside References]] section). Please double check. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:14, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

BTW I think the ("cordless") phone deserves its own page.
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:22, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:It already [[Disconnected Telephone|has a page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Oh! My bad! Thanks for the link! I saw where it's referred to in the page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:27, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::Any time. Happy to help, etc. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Is This Correct?==

The part about Marc's question being odd in because the Geddup Noise was in the previous email doesn't make sense to me. This is in Remarks. This email could have been easily sent before lady...ing. [[User:Catman87]]
:It's possible, but I don't think they'd save an email for that long. Keep in mind how long ago the last email was. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Bubs' Basement... ==

"This is proof that Bubs Conncesion Stand ''does'' have a basement."

So, um, why exactly is that so important to note?--[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 23:43, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

----
I thought that was an interesting observation about the movie Real Genius... after all, the lights do go off except for that light over his head. I thought that was totally strange (not TBC strange, but strange as in it was meant to be like that for a specific reason). Doesn't the elevator in the movie also have a light like that? I haven't seen the movie in so long.
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:07, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Corporate Homestarloween Still Sucks Still Sucks ==

We have redundant links to Homestarloween Party. I was about to delete one, but it raises a question: Should Real-World References that have already been referenced in another toon be regarded as Real-World References, Inside References, or both? [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 00:10, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Booo ==

Didn't anybody else think that when the King of Town did his own rip-off of the gettup noise, he was booing himself in the background, like how he did in [[impression]] when Strong Sad appeared? I definitely heard it, and I think that was the joke at that point, and not him randomly saying "doooooo." His mustache doesn't even move at that point, anyway.

Yeah, I think so too. Should we add that on the fun facts? --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:07, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't think "Dooo-ooo" made any sence, and I heard "Booooo" They should change this. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]

I agree, but it was instantly changed back when I tried modifying the wiki. -sarducci

Yep, it's definitely "Booooo"

:I once reverted it from "boooo!" to "dooo!", but I can now hear that that is clearly wrong. The only problem I will have with changing it to "boooo!" is if people interpret it as an offscreen KOT jeering the onscreen KOT. No, it's not a reference to the "Boooo!" in [[impression]]. You can tell from the pitch that the KOT is adding vocal SFX to glorify the Standing Up Noise. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:40, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I also hear a /b/ sound at the beginning. I don't know, however, what the best spelling would be. Obviously, "booo" is a choice. "Buhooo"... hmmm... "B'oooo"... Anybody else have a suggestion? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:54, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

People, the entire e-mail is about a personified sound effect. Wouldn't it make comical sense that the KoT's boo in [[impression]] is also a personified effect? It's not him on-screen that's saying it either, because his mustash doesn't move, so that invalidates the "Adding SFX" argument.

:Yeah, I'm sure it's a reference to [[Impression]]. The general idea would be that the Standing Up Noise is so lame that the King himself booed it...from off screen. Yeah, that would mean there are two KoTs in that scene, but it's supposed to make comical sense, not logical sense.[[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 02:21, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Ehh... this is getting a little strained. The simple fact is that there are many tiny details in TBC 'toons which can't be completely linked to causes and/or meanings—and this is one of them. The only objective facts we have to go on are:
*We hear a sound; we all agree that it's the KOT's voice and that it involves the "oo" sound.
*His mustache doesn't move.
Further speculation about who or what makes the sound and what the sound means are just that—speculation. (Note that his immobile mustache doesn't necessarily mean he's not making it; when someone's mouth is hidden by a mustache, they can make small mouth movements without it moving visibly.) --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 02:29, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Oh my dear god. I hate to break it to you guys, but this is not reality, its a cartoon. In real life, yes people can make small mouth movements with moving visably. In a cartoon, you need moving mouths to indicate speech. The KOT's mustash wasn't moving, e.g. he was NOT MAKING THE SOUND.

This argument can be settled by asking which is more likely: The KOT being booed by himself for such a lame rip-off attempt, in a reference to the off-screen boo in [[impression]] or the King saying "Dooo" without his mustache moving and looking off to his right for no reason.

:Or a third option: The KoT is being booed from offstage by someone else who happens to sound like KoT. Matt has said he's bad at making generic character voices, and after making so many characters there's only so many new voices you can make. Having (presumably) just recorded the KoT's line, it makes sense that his generic character sounded like the KoT. Whenever a fun fact comes up elsewhere that says "new character X has a voice similar to old character Y" it's always chalked up to "Matt's running out of different voices". Admittedly few are as close as this one, but I still believe it comes under the same header. Besides, even if it ''is'' the KoT booing, there's no reason for it to be a reference to impression... it could just be the same absurdism that gave rise to having two Homestars on screen at once (though people still tried to explain that away with "Main Page 23 is actually Fabrosi, you can't see his moustace because he's facing away from the screen, yada, yada...")... Seriously - random absurdism doesn't have to reference something to be funny. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:36, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::Now THATS a stretch. Matt is more creative than to incorporate two different voices that sound similar in the same scene. He could have used a canned boo if that were the case (like a live studio audience). The reason the voice sounds like the KoT's and is saying boo, is because it IS a reference to [[impression]].

== Corporate T-shirts Still Suck ==

There are two references to one thing for Strong Sad's T-shirt. Which is it? Because right now, it looks like a TTATOT, or at least the beginnings of one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:41, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Fortunately, it's taken care of. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:06, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Didn't Strong Bad call it the "get up noise"? ==

In the email "the bet" Strong Bad's closing line is "And now, the get up noise." He now claims it's called "the geddup noise." Also, that was email 95 so should it be noted that "chairscoot" hadn't replaced "the geddup noise" yet?
:Well, for all we know, the Geddup Noise was replaced with the get up noise and THEN the Chairscoot. I wouldn't worry about it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::However, his seeming confusion at the phrase "get up noise" at the beginning of the email would seem to counterindicate this. You know, this sbemail does funky stuff with the fourth wall and reality that are going to make arguments difficult--hold it, this deserves a separate heading... [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 05:10, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Bubs sinking into the floor? ==
Is this an inside refrence to anything?
{{User:Crazydog/sig}} 04:36, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but if you want to sign your post, you could just simply type 4 tildes, like so:<code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. It's alot easier than typeing in your entire name. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 04:17, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

You could call it a real-word reference to those mimes people do behind benches. You know, going down stairs, elevators, escalators and so on.

It's seems to be a slight reference possibly to Blast from The Past [[User:Chatboy 91|Chatboy 91]] 22:28, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I think it's just a joke, in that it's a funny image. I mean, just look at it; Bubs is facing right at you and slowly sinking through the floor with a single light overhead. I thought it was visually funny. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

:I think its a reference to basic UFO crap. Nothing in particalur. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 23:12, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Rant Re: Reality ==
     I can foresee difficulties in discussing the events of this email in absolute terms--"Bubs has a basement," "Geddup Noise was succeeded circa #84 by 'get up noise,' who was succeeded by Chairscoot, post-#95"--due to the fact that the entire thing is a huge breakage of the [[Fourth Wall (Breaks)|Fourth Wall]]. Marc's email sets it off right from the start, by referencing a prior 4th-wall-break in email 95. From there we progress to a reality in which not merely an inanimate object but a sound is personified. Of course it's heard when Strong Bad hands it the phone, and is able to manifest itself in radio and game show studios--it's being treated as a person. 
     All of which casts into serious doubt the "reality" of the events depicted. Does Bubs have a basement? More to the point, does "Bubso?" Did the Cheat in actuality create an indietronic remix? Strong Bad simply tells us with a straight face that these things happened, and his word is ultimately the only arbiter of reality within sbemails. I understand the flexibility that's always characterized the "H*R Universe"--but if we accept these events as literal it's a universe in which real estate in prestigious European ski resorts can be purchased--and inhabited--by disembodied sounds. 
     And yes, I'm aware that another email-closing icon, The Paper, has been consistently personified. I guess my uneasiness is simply with the fact that the modus operandi of this whole wiki seems to be to rebuild the Fourth Wall as much as possible--to try to pull the H*R corpus into an ordered unity, to speak of it in declarative sentences as if Strong Bad and Free Country USA were real people and places--an attempt which is hampered by the fact that it is, in fact, a work of creative art in continual production and transformation. To that extent, any argument over putative changes or discrepancies in characters or settings can simply be reduced to: "Today TBC said x. In the past they have said y." We are describing nothing so much as a chronology of artistic statements. 
     This is simply amplified by the H*R Universe's (or TBC's) ambiguity towards the Fourth Wall, throughout. The whole notion of sbemails as an "email show," the new "backstage" main page, and several DVD commentaries where characters speak of their "performances" as though they had memorized, rehearsed, and finally filmed them, makes our perception of H*R reality uncertain. When are they aware of an audience? When are we watching their "actual lives," and when is it some show they've produced? Do they know? 
     I don't know why I felt the need for this rant, or why I've gone on so long now. I'm not recommending, by any means, that the wiki be converted to some kind of "book report" mindset; I guess I'm just suggesting that, when we try to make the realities presented in an email like this one agree, we keep reminding ourselves that we're discussing characters who may or may not be presenting a fictitious reality within their own "fictitious reality," all of which is subject to the whims of its human authors. I'm suggesting that we draw a line somewhere, preferably somewhere before discussing how sound effects can have "cousins," or what the names of the sounds in Strong Bad's employment were, and in what order. 
     Perhaps Geddup Noise will enter the cast of characters like Senor Cardgage (another 4th-Wall-Break made flesh); it just weirds me out because unlike the Paper he's not merely inanimate, he's immaterial. But hey, so are Homestar's arms. So there.
[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 06:42, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:     First of all, and this is off the subject, but anyone who would write such an eloquent, lengthy, and insightful essay on the nature of the H*R universe is doing us a disservice by not having a user space to speak of. That is to say, you may be neither strong nor bad, notstrongorbad, but I can tell when someone is my kind of person, and you're it. So get on that user page, why don't you. I for one would like to get to know you.
:     Second, I really like the notion that TBC break the fourth wall, but then we just build it back as best we can. That is by far the best explanation of how we here cope with information that doesn't fit our established patterns. I believe this is a very necessary reaction, because we are essentially writing a straight-faced encyclopedia of a fictitious universe, and the only way we can do that is to take the subject matter as seriously as possible (which is of course incredibly ironic). I think (and if I read you correctly, you agree with me) that most people here operate in terms of what the characters themselves would do if they were real, rather than what TBC are having them do. In my own mind I imagine Strong Bad and Homestar as distinct personalities separate from Matt Chapman. This is partially delusional, but at least I'm aware of it. Again, it makes it easier to write this wiki if one approaches it on those terms.
:     Note that we are not even close to the first to do this. The most notable example that comes to mind is the ''Star Trek'' universe, whose fans have had to incorporate the whims of hundreds of writers into a cohesive canon. In that regard, we're lucky we only have to deal with a handful of contributors.
:Back to the topic at hand, even though the Paper is personified, it is still an item, not a character, and I don't see the Geddup Noise as a character, either. At least not with more to go on. I agree that we must be able to see a line between the fictitious reality and fictitious realities within it. Unfortunately, it's very late as I type this, and my vision is a little blurry.
:     Wrapping up, I will remark on how I like that certain things can cross the line. Senor Cardgage is the perfect example. He began as the so-called Creppy Comb-over Strong Bad, but as he gained more and more appearances, TBC were forced to admit to themselves that Senor Cardgage had become bona fide separate character, and (to me this is the best part) that status was conferred ''retroactively'' all the way back to his first appearance in [[kind of cool]]. In other words, TBC didn't know it at the time, but the dumpy character with the beer belly and a comb-over has ''always'' been Senor Cardgage.
:     I don't know if anything I've written here constitutes rational thought. Like I said, it's too late for me to even proof-read it closely, so forgive any typographical or logical mistakes. And I meant what I said about your user page. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:47, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Well, notstrongorbad, you're seriously pushing the envelope of talk pagery here. And like dot com said, that's a very good thing. I myself have similar thoughts about the reality/non-reality status of the Universe (H*R and our own), but there's seldom any cause to put them down. Talk pages are such a place for this.

::Sometimes, I'm a fiction writer. When I made the step from short stories to my novel, I was a bit overwhelmed with the amount of characters, idioms, and qualities I was imparting into a true vacuum. From nothing, came something, and before long, that something grew so large certain elements were at odds. Continuity, or lack thereof, became one of my chief editing headaches.

::But my novel was a one-shot affair for the consumer of art - you read it, it's done. You could go back, but it's meant as a cohesive whole (with room for the sequel, of course!), and the reader will either buy into the woven fabric or find fault in it. H*R is a different artistic animal, one that is constantly being added to, constantly being meddled with. This meddling manifests itself in heavy doses of self-referential trickery. It rewards the fan who returns to see what has changed, and challenges that person to make sense of it. And therein lies the greatest joke of all - there really is no sense, or "truth" to be found. In a world of invisible arms, personified noises and disconnected telephones, TBC regularly present an incongrous, even inconsistent, format from which to indulge their comedic leanings.

::But they restrain themselves from complete incongruity, complete inconsistency. There are threads, and there are themes. From these tenuous strings and strands of their imagination, we, the devoted (and quite possibly obsessed) and computer-literate fans of the cartoon try to record it, standardize it, and glorify it. When TBC foist the concept of a personified noise on the viewer, we naively accept it; we want to accept it. As dot com related, thinking of the characters as "real" (and not just the product of Matt doing a funny voice and Mike writing funny dialogue) is simply more satisfying. Thinking too deeply about the underpinnings of these dumb animal characters dilutes the fantasy, and leads to troubling issues such as whether everything we see is the complete fabrication of Strong Bad.

::I close with three words: suspension of disbelief. If anything deserves it, it is H*R, for not only making us laugh but then compelling us to explain it. And please, get a user page and tell us a little about'cha self. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 11:22, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::This conversation++.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:04, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::What. The. Crap. This is a frigging long discussion over a petty thing... {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:24, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::You should know how to sign your posts by now, [[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]. I surely hope you read some of their discussion. I enjoyed reading every word of it myself, so much so that I printed it out (on paper sans green and white bars.) It shows you who's really thinking deeply on the subject. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I'd also like to get to know [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] better. Add me to the list of people who want him/her to create their own user page! {{User:The Paper/sig}} 19:22, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::Sorry, I forgot about the sign thing. I'm not particularly just taking a look at the discussion and going "whoah its way too long," I've read over it, but I just feel that whether or not what Strong Bad says about E-mail #84 merits a discussion this long. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:24, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::Please understand, [[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]], that although the mention of email #84 prompted this discussion, the topic is not merely about what Strong bad says about that particular email, but it's about the bigger picture: what drives us members of the HRWiki community to keep our eyes glued to the monitor day in, and day out, waiting for the messages "NEW Toons!", "NEW downloads", "NEW SBEmails!", and "Updated Today!" -- and then, like eager little children we tell everyone else the incredible things we discovered in this marvelous little made-up universe. Even, if we're <insert an unspecified age> years old. It's cool stuff. Oh, yes and guys, I enjoyed reading the shpeals! (Is that how you spell it?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:01, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::: Yes, I know, I was merely using that as an example. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 00:50, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::::I don't have anything that philosophical to say, but I think it's spelled spiels. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 22:05, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Reprinted from [[Talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]]:

<pre> I may have a way out of all this: Strong Bad is running
a small operation inside the homestar-verse for the benefit of those
within it. That is to say, Strong Bad is an internet star inside the
world of Homestar and Friends, which is why The Cheat can watch on
his computer (or Strong Bad do the show from The Cheat's computer).
In this context, we are not watching Strong Bad answer email for our
benefit, but for those inside; we just get to watch, explaining why
we can follow Strong Bad around when he leaves his computer. -- The
Real Zajac 10:08, 11 May 2005 (PDT)
</pre>

-- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:00, 27 Sep 2005 (PDT)

     I should clarify that I don't feel that my impromptu essay was in any way warranted or even particularly on-topic; it was purely an act of venting. In a fit of wikiness I was up WAY past my appropriate bedtime, which probably had a lot to do with its length! And yes, while I enjoy the grad-school-thesis schtick sometimes, I do also know it can get old. Sometimes the appropriate response is simply "Ha ha! He kicked the Cheat! Ha ha!" 
     And please don't misunderstand; I'm not arguing that we shouldn't undertake a systematic, realistic discussion of an unsystematic, non-real world, by any means. The important thing is just to remember, in the back of our minds, that we are. 
     (And evidently I'm going to be creating a user page, but it probably won't be any time in the next few days!) [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 23:59, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I think you're whole agurment is a bit hypocritical when you told us in the "Boo" agurment to, "Note that his immobile mustache doesn't necessarily mean he's not making it; when someone's mouth is hidden by a mustache, they can make small mouth movements without it moving visibly."

:     Yeah, I can see what you mean. But actually the two have something in common. I tend to prefer a kind of "agnostic" philosophy about what the things in the 'toons mean. Some things are obvious, and never engender debate. Others are "mostly obvious," i.e. maybe one or two people interpret them differently, but everyone else is in agreement. And then other things provoke great diversity both in how viewers percieve them (see the gr----est debate above) and in how they create meaning out of those perceptions. The rant immediately above was precipitated because attempts to construe meaning out of the relative chronologies of Chairscoot, Geddy, and or other noises had reached an absurdist moment; I was advocating for sticking more to the obvious and undebated. 
:     My comment in the "Boo"/"Doo" argument that you quoted is similarly motivated--there are certain things that are uncontested (although I was wrong to assume that one of those is the identity of the voice). We all agree that a sound occurred, and we agree roughly as to what it sounds like. The debate arises when we try to derive a meaning from the sound. In this case, given that it's not the most important moment in a shot that is relatively minor within the 'toon, I'd argue for not assigning a meaning at all. 
:     The bit about mustaches moving—which, you're right, is a real-world/'toon comparison that my rant above would seem to contradict—was another of my agnostic attempts to hedge my bet, to argue both sides. I emphasize "doesn't necessarily mean"; I certainly wasn't saying either that he is or is not creating the sound. And at least in this case, I'm disinclined to say either for sure; it's non-integral enough that I'm comfortable leaving it ambiguous. — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 23:31, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:: Well, I do agree with you that the fervor over minor aspects of a web cartoon seems frivolous. However, we're all here because we LOVE Homestar, Strong Bad and the rest. The whole focus of this love and the purpose of this site is to create an encyclopedic index of everything noteworthy about the series. It's easy to get into odd arguments about the realism of a cartoon, but it speaks of the passion we all have. I think I would hate my job a lot more if it wasn’t for Strong Bad's emails. So I'm inclined to let my fellow passionate fans debate whatever they like, and chime in when it's worth it.

== Sounds and Indietronica ==

Yesterday, somebody tried to make an Inside Reference saying that the sound that accompanied the "Get Outcha Seat Sound" logo was from Lil' Brudder, and was of course deleted with the explanation that "it's been noted that TBC reuse sounds." Now it's been added to the transcript, first as the "Fluffy Puff Nibblins" sound, and then as the "Homsar walking sound." Mightn't a good approach be to either ignore SFX entirely, except where they pertain to the action of the email (e.g. the Standing Up Noise), or else to give SFX that are repeated often enough their own pages, to systemize what they're called?

Unrelatedly: someone deleted the Real-World Reference to Indietronica entirely. While I don't want it to turn into a long list of bands that fit (?) that category, I think it's a significant enough phenomenon and far enough from assumed mainstream knowledge to be needed. Maybe the best way is simply to link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indietronic, even though it's a somewhat sloppy stub. I'm not sure about protocol, though; would linking within the transcript or Easter Eggs section be appropriate, or should it be put back into a Fun Fact? [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 04:40, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Might I direct your attention to [[Sound Effects|my pride and joy]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:And I would say put the indietronic link back as a fun fact, unless anyone has objections? {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:45, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Holy cow, Dorian; you were WAY ahead of me. Very shipshape. And consider the Fun Fact reinstated.

:::Thanks! ^-^ I love the praise. I can't take all the credit--It's dot com came up with the initial idea, and other people helped with some minor formatting and additions--but if you look at the history, the brunt of the work was done by me. And I constantly keep watch for more additions. Nice to know my hard work is appreciated. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Questionable Fun Fact ==

"The sign on [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] reads 'Bubso's Concession Stand', which may be why Coach Z calls him Bubso."

The sign being called "Bubso's" is already noted in the transcript, and it's obvious that Coach Z calling him Bubso is due to the sign, or that the sign and calling him Bubso are both due to a related reason. Either way, this doesn't have to be pointed out. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

:I wouldn't have noticed it if it wasn't for this Fun Fact, but then maybe that's just me... --[[User:84.12.176.220|84.12.176.220]] 21:03, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I didn't notice it until I read the fact... - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== singer ==

Is the singer really Matt using his high voice? When you download the file, it says Mike Chapman.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 01:55, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I dunno, but personally, the voice sounds very female. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:14, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::It does sound female, but I don't know who it can be. It doesn't sound like Missy, and I have no idea or any backup if it is Jackie C. Matt is a very talented voice actor though. I guess no one knows for sure!--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:27, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::I dunno Missy has quite a talented voice too! But yeah, it's somewhat different. I don't know who Jackie C. is unfortunately. And yeah no one knows for sure... for now! I'm sure it'll come out on some DVD or get leaked somehow ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:11, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I personally thought it was pretty clear they were thinking of The Postal Service, which would make the voice a (rather good) take on Benjamin Gibbards lofty vocals. --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 07:23, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::Ok now I have to listen to The Postal Service cuz I don't think I've heard them before! Thanks for the info. I still beleive there's a hint of femininity in the voice. ''Typically'' you can tell the difference between a girl singing Alto in her normal voice, and a guy singing in his falsetto voice. (Though there was this one contratenor who was part of this choir performing in Notre Dame Cathedral that was simply amazing...) ! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:37, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::I find it amusing that the boys in the middle school choir I observe are reluctant to hit the high notes, thinking that it's unmanly to use your falsetto. I feel like, "Ever heard of [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/bands_page.php?id=412 Postal Service], [http://www.deathcabforcutie.com Death Cab for Cutie], [http://www.sufjan.com Sufjan Stevens], Coldplay, The Shins, Mick Jagger..."--Hey, talk about countertenors, check out [[Wikipedia:Yes_(band)|Yes's]] Jon Anderson! When I was 15 my parents, in a mild midlife crisis, brought home ''[[Wikipedia:Fragile|Fragile]]'' on CD, and I assumed until told otherwise it was a woman singing. --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 19:26, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::Um, I sing-a the rock and roll music, and sometimes bust out the falsetto - usually for back-up vocals. And the singing here is without doubt one Chapman or the other (my guess is Matt - anyone else hear the faint resemblance to Strong Sad?) doing falsetto. Oh, and no offense if anyone here is a countertenor (or a castrati, for that matter) but those fellas creep me out. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:25, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::I'm pretty sure it's one of TBC, as with Bottom 10 [the women's voice on the desserts] the voice did sound like it was done by a male but perhaps edited in a audio program to sound higher pitched [at least that's what I think, the comment on the last dessert convinced me], listening to the quote of the day version of it on my higher quality speaker system here it does not sound very female-ish at all to me. - [[User:Mick|Mick]] 01:15, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Talk:geddup noise

Mick — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 01:16:40 GMT

Mick: Adding my comment. :)

User:Mick

Mick — Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:07:59 GMT

Mick: Minor Edit of my Page!

Talk:Strong Sad's Lament

Mick — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:18:47 GMT

Mick: /* depressio111117 */

These were on the [[STUFF]] page. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

==== Meh (Declined) ====
"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

*'''Decline.''' It's to obvious, It's like saying Homestar's speech impediment. Meh is also an emotion meaning normal, not happy, not sad, just...meh. - [[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:14, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Bad's Lament? (Accepted but later extensively reworded)====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

*'''Decline.''' If that was true, Strong Bad would more likely write "HJLWHOUISNASNKL?A STUPID!! GUY I AM A STUPID GUY!! HA HA HA!!!!GUIS kljIUS SJ". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:16, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*That was one incident! You can't say that Strong Bad would write like that all the time. And you can't honestly say that sounds like Strong Sad. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:39, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*<s>'''Revise, Accept''' Too much speculation as written, but I must admit that it DOES look a bit more like SB's handiwork than SS's. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)</s>
*'''Decline''' I'm not seeing Strong Bad listening to a live David Bowie track... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**And doubt Strong Bad could draw that good. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:42, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** We ARE talking about the same Strong Bad, right...?
*You're using his art and musical tastes as an argument? Strong Bad's drawings of Trogdor during the theme is just as good as Saddy Dumpington, and Strong Sad would not call himself Dump*, let alone call anyone a hippie. And Strong Bad's character in no way reflects his music choices. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**What makes you think the drawings at the end of [[dragon]] are Strong Bad's? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***What makes you think the Saddy Dumpington drawing is Strong Sad's? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:54, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**My point is, TBC would never make a joke that subtle. For example, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] didn't end without proofing who really judged the pumpkins. This "fact" is almost silly as ye old [http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=MarzipansAnsweringMachine%2FVersion+10.2%2FComments Homestar prank call debate]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** So you're saying it DOES look like the kind of thing Strong Sad would write, what with all the typical Strong Bad comments? ("Dumpington", "freaking", "hippie", etc.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Yes/Maybe, I highly doubt Strong Bad would praise Francis Scott Key. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:10, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Oh, and thanks to whoever added "Strong Bad's Lament to this section. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:16, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Vote change!''' Yup, I'm changing my vote. To a simple '''Accept'''. I didn't notice that his password really WAS given out on the page! I'm still pretty confident that the writing style and choice of words look more like SB than SS. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:00, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Accept''' Like Jay said above, I also don't think Strong Sad would use the words "freaking" and "hippie". I also don't think he "rocks out", even orchestrally, but that's just my opinion. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Secondinate!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''I challenge this''', now that Strong Sad, in the new toon, claims to have invented Saddy Dumpington. It sounds like Strong Bad, but we have no reason to doubt Strong Sad when he says that he made Saddy Dumpington.

:Since the release of [[A Folky Tale]], this item has been extensively reworded to account for the apparent contradictions between the style of the post and the fact that Strong Sad claims to have made up Saddy Dumpintgon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:46, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

'''I propose moving it from Remarks to its own section.''' I originally created a new section called "Continuity Errors" for the reworded version (see the 10:10, 23 Aug 2005 revision), but [[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]] reverted it. With respect to Pertmywert, I feel that this revert was rather hasty (it was reverted only two minutes after I posted my edits!) and without merit, and I would like to ask for a vote on it. With the release of the new toon and the increased length of the reworded version, I think it's important enough to deserve its own section. - 68.46.120.170 17:41, 23 Aug 2005 (EDT)

:If it were to be in its own section, I don't think Continuity Errors fits, because the explanations offered are not really errors. I think it fits as a remark (a long remark), because essentially it's ''one'' comment on ''one'' of Strong Sad's posts. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:52, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Grim Reaper ==
*Is it worth noting that the grim reaper appers both [[HR:/sadjournal/vday.swf|here]] on Strong Sad's lament as well as in [[Experimental Film]] (though in the latter, Strong Sad is in the GR costume)?
:Nah, it just fits Strong Sad's personality. Always looking at the darker side of things.

Where was the box under strong sad's bed that had a slide show of strong bad and strong sad as kids??
:[[The Secrets That I Keep]] —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 09:24, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Goofs vs. Typos ==

"Goofs" are mistakes TBC make; for the purposes of our discussion, ''Strong Sad'' made the mistakes on this page. '''We don't note mistakes Strong Bad makes in his emails as Goofs;''' rather, we note them in the Remarks. Since there were enough of Strong Sad's mistakes for a whole section, I changed it to "Typos". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:07, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I'm not really the guy who would know the difference. I only made that change for two reasons:
:#"Typos" isn't one of the ways we categorize Fun Facts. [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts|Goofs is]].
:#The Francis Scott Key fact is a Goof. I knew it wasn't a typo, so I changed the header to Goofs for lack of a better choice for that particular grouping.
:That being said, the Key fact is probably the only one of the four that are currently under that header that really is a Goof. The typos by Strong Sad should probably be moved to another section. Maybe Remarks?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:35, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Goofs may be our standard category, but '''we are flexible enough''' to accomodate a special category on a toon-by-toon basis. For example, [[50_emails#Homestar.27s_attempts_at_DELETED|Homestar's attempts at Deleted]]. I think these should be grouped together since there are several of them. How about "Strong Sad's Goofs", or "Strong Sad's Mistakes", or something similar? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:42, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::That's true, and we also have [[boring_%28really%29#Strong_Bad.27s_list_of_.5B.5BWikipedia:List_of_three-letter_English_words.7C3-letter_words.5D.5D|Strong Bad's List Of Three Letter Words]]. Since this is kind of a special case, I think Dot Com made the right call on THIS one, but as a rule, I think keeping to just the usual catagories would be best. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:23, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::Er, I'm confused. No one is suggesting ''not'' using the usual categories, as a rule. But when something falls ''outside'' the usual categories, which this does, we use a special category to accomodate it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:10, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== depressio111117 ==

Has anyone investigated to see if this is a screename maintained by TBC? Just curious. --[[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]

I was wondering that myself! [[User:24.62.243.222|24.62.243.222]] 22:31, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've added it to my buddy list. Anyone who also does so, let someone know if it's logged on to. --[[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]

I've had it for quite a whiles now, and never has anyone logged into it. It is registered, so it's possible TBC registered it to prevent people from using it and then decided to never sign on with it. Same with other Characters that have shown a AIM/IM account name within toons, none of them has logged on in the past year as far as I can tell. -[[User:Mick|Mick]]

==Tagline Dates==

Are all of those taglines from 2004? I think that whoever added them in the first place, or whoever knows the correct year(s), should add them to the dates. If possible. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:27, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:WikiTroll

Mick — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:43:18 GMT

Mick: /* THE TROLL IS TROLLING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!!! */

== Rollback link? ==
Okay, on the WikiTroll page it has instructions for reverting a page back to a previous version. In it, it says:

Next, click the "rollback" link near the upper right side of the page (directly to the right of the most recent author's name).

However it doesn't have a rollback link by the most recent author's name... do these instructions need to be revised?

--[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]] 19:05, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Yes, of course. I have changed the text to refect this. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:26, 29 Sep 2004 (MST)

In these instructions, I noticed that the two sections are sysop and non-sysop. What is sysop, and how do I get it? Its really annoying reverting edits the non-sysop way.

:First off, please sign your posts, [[User:-erson|-erson]]. Second off, a sysop is just an [[HRWiki:Administrators|Admin]], which is a user with different rights (blocking an IP, for example). To become an admin, another one must appoint it to you. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

Semi off topic, but semi on.
It's a '''very''' nice diversion from studying for your psychology exam that you're going to fail anyway to go through the trolled pages and check out all the...well...trolling ^_^ --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]] 20:47, 3 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Trolling or not? ==

I notice many IP's are starting to troll, then deleting the trolling afterwards. Is this still considered trolling? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

:It depends really. If it is something like they are adding "adsfafsd" to a page and then removing it, I'd think that's more a new person testing on a page instead of the sandbox. If it's something that's defacement, then it's still defacement. Do you have a specific example in mind?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:26, 13 Nov 2004 (MST)

::A new user ([[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]]) posted "I am dumb" and "I spelled grammar and Mozillaa wrong" on my talk page, but then deleted it. I told him to stop, but he just said he was "commenting". --[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

== Namespace ==
Shouldn't this be in the HRWiki namespace instead of the main one? --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 17:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Probably. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice. I'll move it now.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:37, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

== New Format ==

Although I agree that the new format looks nicer, I have two concerns:
* By archiving the offense, we're adding to the exposure of spam. If people are really curious about the offense, they could find it in the old format with a few mouse clicks.
* It's more difficult for people to contribute to the spam page. Before, it was rather straightforward; now people have to figure out formatting for the chart when they add a submission. Perhaps we could devise a system in which people can add a simple comment and another person reformat it later; this adds an extra step, but is more convenient for those less familiar with Wikipedia who still wish to defend the sanctity of the Wiki. =) --[[user:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]

::I actually agree with you about the degree of difficulty. It is a big increase. I was actually thinking of saying something in the instructions about, "Yeah, and if you can't figure that table out, just do your best down at the bottom of the page and someone will fix it for you." As to the archive of the old stuff, MediaWiki keeps every edit for every page anyway. We might need to develop some kind of subpage archive, which I would want to make kind of fancy or something, but I was going to wait until the end of the month.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:38, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

::P.S.: I added the note. I'd also like to add that this format is just to make my job a little easier. All those links are the pages I check before I block someone. It's totally selfish on my part...[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:45, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::I saw the note and I understand your reasons for wanting easy access to the offense. Thanks for your quick response! -- [[user:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]

::::It seems kind of cluttered now (and a whole lot more confusing). But whatever is easier for the admins. It's not like it matters. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

== 64.246.132.* ==

I actually didn't block 64.246.132.116, and I won't block 64.246.132.182 for its last edit because of the nature of their IP addresses. These edits really aren't that bad, and from what I noticed the software did in the time after I blocked "spacemonkey", it seems to be that is who to blame. The software blocks anonymous editors that have the same IP as a blocked user, and I know a bunch were auto blocked while he/she was blocked. The only way to deal with these dynamic IP people is with quick reverts to discourage them. If it gets bad, I don't mind a short temp block, but I don't like blocking legitimate users that might get caught in the same range. Anyway, it just seems that this person thinks they are funny or something, and I imagine they might know Renegade Master in real life. Bah.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:50, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
:Yes, why is he so determined to troll?! [[User:woddfellow2|<nowiki></nowiki>]]-<tt>[[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]]|[[User talk:woddfellow2|✎</tt>]] 22:12, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Archive? ==

The troll list is getting fairly long; can we archive some of the older entries to make it shorter to edit? If someone is a repeat offender, a glance at their "contributions" should reveal that. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:43, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Okay, good idea. How much should I leave here though? One month? Two?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:39, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

::We could probably group them by month, then have just the current and previous month's troll list posted (so, now we would have December and January). Even just dividing by month would help the page, since then people could edit just one section instead of the whole page. It would also make it clearer to first-time reporters where they should place their edits. Thanks! -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 19:51, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

:::I think you have the right idea with knowing previous offenders by their contributions listing. I suppose if we created an archive page, I could just put all but the most recent few months there. I don't know what you mean by adding to different months though, since each new entry is placed at the bottom of the list regardless of if they've defaced before.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:48, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Yes, that list is getting too fragging long. It takes too long to load. How are we going to archive the older entries? [[User:woddfellow2|<nowiki></nowiki>]]-<tt>[[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]]|[[User talk:woddfellow2|✎</tt>]] 13:35, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

::Oh, almost forgot about this. [[HRWiki:WikiTroll Archive]] works for me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:51, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

== pertmywert ==

I would like something done with [[User talk:pertmywert|pertmywert]]. It's driving me nuts.
It seems as though he thinks that his userspace is his own website. If you try to talk to him through his talk page he will get mad and erase your comment, as well as your userspace. He also insults people with crap (see "[[User talk:pertmywert#People I Hate|here]]). He just doesn't get it, and I see no way to contact him. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Hey sorry firebird

post something on my page to tell me what i am doing wrong please
;[[User:Pertmywert|''<tt>[[User:pertmywert|pertmywert]]</tt>'']]

== New Spammer thing I noticed ==

We now have a type of spammer that claims to be unspamming in the summary of change box. Example: [[Special:Contributions/209.88.103.215|209.88.103.215]]. Just wanted to let people know, as it confused me for a moment.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:31, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Testing Outside of [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]] = Trolling? ==

I am trying to decide whether or not to ad 217.87.196.142 to the troll blotter. He/she seems to be testing, so it would probably be mean to add his/her IP address to the troll blotter. What should I do? [[User:woddfellow2|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—<tt>[[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]]|[[User talk:woddfellow2|✎</tt>]] 11:31, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

:My advice for the moment is to do nothing; I think the maxim "[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers|Please do not bite the newcomers]]" applies here. As of this writing, the IP in question only has [[Special:Contributions/217.87.196.142|two contributions]], which are hardly anything to get worked up about. If the user does it again, then I suggest a gentle note on his or her [[User_talk:217.87.196.142|talk page]] explaining that these actions are inappropriate. Only after that would I believe that a formal sanction was warranted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:30, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

::The use of the [[Template:test|test template]] might also be good as well.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Block IP Blocks ==

Is it possible to delete a block of IP addresses? 69.50.1* has been spamming over and over and over and over and over and OVER again, (his favorite targets are [[Peasant's Quest]] (don't ask me why!), [[HRWiki:FAQ]], [[Talk:FAQ]], and [[HRWiki talk:FAQ]]) but his IP address shifts ever so slightly each time. He doesn't seem to realize that the Wiki now automatically adds a nofollow tag to links. It's really annoying. The alternative would be to block each and every IP address he could theoretically post through, but that's likely in the neighborhood of several thousand (give me a while and I could give you the exact number) and it's possible you might accidently block a legit user. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
: The smallest third frame I've seen him use is 166, and the largest is 187. My math gives that the smallest and largest he's probably capable of are 160 and 191. That gives him 8,190 possible different IP addresses! Ow! So if block-blocking isn't possible, he's going to be around for a while... ugh. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:: He's still around and still spamming. Isn't there ANYTHING you can do? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:13, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::: If anyone cares (which doesn't seem to be the case), I've officially seen him use a 191 third frame. I doubt he can go higher, based on what I know about IPs. --[[User:Jay|me again]]

== I just can't resist ==

[[Special:Contributions/168.212.111.228|168.212.111.228s]] gone yay 
(Check the link to see what I'm talking about...) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 15:38, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I clicked, but... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
: He's the guy who keeps adding "schuylers gone yay" to pages. He did it to [[Email]], to [[Toons]] and to his own now-deleted illegitimate User page. He's also been responsible for other sorts of trolling (he's the guy you just reverted and I blocked for a little while.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 15:47, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I just didn't get the "schuylers gone yay" reference. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:50, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== How do I? ==

Let's say I found someone trolling, you know defacing pages, breaking links and all that sort of stuff. How'd I report it? Do I just post something here saying (insert ip adress here) is trolling?

== TROLL ==

85.100.29.233 is trolling and has trolled on [[User:pertmywert|pertmywert]] s user page and on the hrwiki help page with adult porn sites.

PLEASE BLOCK HIM

:Done. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 12:28, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

== When to Add Trolls ==

I was wondering when I should and when I shouldn't add trolls to this page, because I usually wonder if what I am doing is unnecessary when .... I add a troll ''after'' it gets temporarily blocked, to serve as a sort of "log," just in case it comes back for a repeat. But then I wonder, do most sysops look at the user contributions and block log instead of the troll page to see if it is a repeat offender?

Is this page's purpose to be more of an attention-caller to sysops after a troll has done its work, and hasn't been blocked because there were no sysops logged in? Is that really the only time I should add a troll to this page? Or ''does'' this serve as a detailed log? If so, then why don't more people add bad trolls after they are blocked? --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:52, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, I usually check the user contributions before I block, to see if the user is a repeat offender. It's most important to put them on the WikiTroll page when the troll needs to be blocked but there are no sysops there. Other times, it's not necessary, I don't think. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:54, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==207.69.0.0/16==
Over and over, this moron keeps returning. He's got a dynamic IP, so in order to properly thwart him, we have to block the whole range. But by doing so, there's a chance that totally legit users will get blocked as well. Is there any way to report this guy to his ISP? (It's Earthlink in, of all places, Atlanta, GA.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:01, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: To answer my own question, I tracked down their abuse line and sent an e-mail to it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:10, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: Yay for automated systems. After mentioning where I was coming from, the nature of the attacker, the IP address he was last seen using, the approximate time he used it, my time zone, and the date... it came back with an automated response, saying I didn't include enough information and needed to include AT LEAST an IP address, a time, a time zone and a date. >_< Strangely enough, responding to that with (in summary) "Uh... I did" got an automated response that said "Okay, we got it!" --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:18, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: When posting on this talk page, please begin your post with several colons, which will indent your reply. Follow that with AT LEAST some content that relates to the lines that precede your message. Last, add your signature and the date and time. Thank you. — [[User:It's dot com|Automated Response]] 07:25, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::: Ell. Oh. Ell. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:28, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: Okay, we got it! — [[User:It's dot com|Automated Response]]

== THE TROLL IS TROLLING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!!! ==

OMG!!!! Somehow [[User:Fricky Dee|Fricky Dee]] trolled on MY IP address!!!! How can that be????? -Kinsey

Woah. Go ask a sysop or admin for help. {{User:Rogue Leader.sig}}

If you have a dynamic ip address then it's possible that at one time the troller had the same ip address as you at some point in time. Also, some ISPs use the same IP address for more then one customer (rare, however). That's my 13 cents. Can be many other things though. -[[User:Mick|Mick]]

== Template aid ==

I made a simple template to make adding a troll just a little easier. <s>It is in the following format: '''<code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:troll|troll]]|evildoer}}</code>'''. It's a lot like the STUFF templates, in that you add the template where it should go, preview it, and then copy and paste the resulting code over the template. '''Note:''' the code for a new row (<code>|-</code>) is ''not'' part of the template, so you'll need to add that manually. I tried it both ways and it was easier the way it is now. '''Also note:''' the HTML comments are ''next to'' the brackets where the links go, not in them, because it was easier to replace the text that way.</s> (I don't like the way the selection insists on expanding when I'm highlighting something.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:14, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm, I'm playing with the variables a little here, but why go through the whole thing of doing a copy and paste? Why not just have <s><tt><nowiki>{{subst:troll|It's dot com|page|http://diffgoeshere|description}}</nowiki></tt> output exactly what we need:
:|-
|| {{CURRENTMONTH}}/{{CURRENTDAY}}/{{CURRENTYEAR}} || [[User:It's not com|It's ''not'' com]] ([[Special:Contributions/It's not com|all edits]]) || page || http://diffgoeshere
:Works for me.</s> And I don't think it would be too hard to explain, at the very least it's easier than doing the copy and paste thing.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:35, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Ah ha, now you want to put the table formatting in there too? I'll let you figure that out. Let me know here when you're done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:36, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

<s>The template has been modified. The format is now: '''<code><nowiki>{{ subst:</nowiki> [[Template:troll|troll]] | evildoer | | description }}</code>'''</s> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:43, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::What a tick. I don't think CURRENTMONTH et al. work like we think they do with templates. Do you see what I'm saying?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:40, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::Yeah, if you posted a troll today with this template, the date would keep updating itself every day. And [[MetaWikipedia:Help:Template#subst|the user guide]] says using "subst" for each of those magic words would just show the date the template was created. It looks like we are going to have to have the user input the date themselves.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:46, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::Hmm. Well stink. They need to fix that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:03, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

The template has been modified ''again''. The ''new'' format is now: '''<code><nowiki>{{ subst:</nowiki> [[Template:troll|troll]] | mm/dd/yy | evildoer }} <nowiki>[[pagename]][actual edit]</nowiki> || description</code>''' Note where the template closes. This is necessary because of the equal signs (=) in the actual edit link. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== What's with these people? ==

I've been looking at the troll edits. You'd expect if they were going to do something that would get themselves in trouble, they would do so constructively. I mean, you'd expect they'd put in something humorous or some misconception or something like that. But all they do is insert explicit crap for no good reason. And the threats against the admins? what's with that?
They type like they're illiterate, they have no sense of humor or comprehension of other people...
What do they think this site is, or that people use this for?
Who are these stupid people?

''They type like they're illiterate, they have no sense of humor or comprehension of other people''; I think that pretty well explains the vast majority of them. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:26, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Archive==
This page needs to be archived soon. {{User:Rogue Leader.sig}} 01:13, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Uh, this page is over forty kilos long. {{User:Rogue Leader.sig}} 19:37, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
==Thechamp==

How dare you blame me for being a troll! I threaten to scare the trolls away, To stop them! I only have the sites good order in mind. I sware it! I mean only harm to the vile trolls! I will not appologize for my actions, I did what I did for the good of the site, That is my argument! --[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 19:11, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
: We don't need to ''scare'' them away; they can be blocked by sysops. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Yes, but any administrator will admit to you that They can only be blocked for a minamal amount of time, I say we need a more permenant blocking system! If we can get funding by people that come here, We may be able to get programming axcessable only to the admins, that can perminantly block the site from users that illeaglely use it! There is always a bigger gun! --[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 19:31, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::: I ''am'' a sysop and ''have'', multiple times, blocked IP addresses or user names permanently. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:33, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::How?

::::: You can set the "Length of block" to "indefinite" or "infinite". See [[Special:Ipblocklist]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:37, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::But the admin I spoke with told me that the blockings were only finite? So they realy aren't? -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 19:41, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::: You can set them to finite or infinite. The latter is only reserved for extreme cases. Which sysop did you talk to? --19:42, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== crossed out ==

Why are a lot of the topics in this page crossed out or is it just me?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 19:39, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

me to. I think no one finished the <nowiki> <s> </nowiki> tags. {{User:Rogue Leader.sig}} 19:40, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

User:Mick

Mick — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:36:06 GMT

Mick: New member page for me

Heywo! I'm Mick.

I'm just a lurker around here, perhaps helping out in some places sometimes.. randomly.

==Contacting==

Why would anyone contact me? I donno.

* Email: micksam7@micksam7.com
* Website: http://micksam7.com/
* AIM: micksam7
* Yahoo!: micksam_7
* MSN: micksam7@hotmail.com
* Jabber: micksam7@jabber.org
* SILC: micksam7
* IRC: micksam7 -> irc.chat-addict.net -> #stats

Talk:A Folky Tale

Mick — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:26:33 GMT

Mick: /* Homsar's line */

== Physics ==

''If the laws of physics are the same in Free Country, USA as they are on the real earth, then the rope is only about 10 feet long.''

If i dare to reveal my ignorance, can anyone explain/elaborate?
And evidently, the rope is NOT 10 feet long as Strong Sad cannot see Homsar holding it
Then again, since when does physic apply around Homsar?
-[[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]

:The time it takes a pendulum to swing back and forth is the same regardless of its weight or density. It only depends on the strength of gravity and the length of the pendulum. So since the rope takes about 3.4 seconds to swing back and forth, it should be about ten feet long. But this fact keeps on being deleted, so it's probably not important. -[[User:Eman|Eman]]

::It's really not important how long the rope is, especially since you can still see the tops of the trees. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::Strong Sad doesn't say he can't see homsar; He just says that he is "concerned about what that rope is attached to." Wouldn't you be concerned if Coach Z told you to climb a rope held up by homsar and nothing else?

I should point out that the rope's ''center of mass'' should be at ten feet. The rope is therefore 20 feet long (assuming uniform density). Also, by counting ten periods while looking at my clock, the rope swings every 3.7 seconds, not 3.4 seconds which means it's 22 feet long if you trust some extra significant figures. Hooray for my first contribution!

== The mayor and Dancing bros. ==

Where should we catagorize them? I like the Dancing bros. enough to make a page about them, but the mayor is just a guy.. with ... a job..?--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:20, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm am doing the Dancing Brothers, but I don't think an article about the mayor is a good idea. {{User:Rogue Leader.sig}} 04:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Agreed--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== The Elephant Man ==

May I add something about the realationship with how Puppet Homestar said that he looked like the elephant man on the DVD Puppet Stuff? --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:36, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

does it take two or three times to be mentioned as an inside joke? it depends on that i think--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

After research i think that the elphant man is obscure enough to be classified as an inside joke...--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:39, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

So, then what should I do? BTW, thanks! lol --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:41, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The elephant man hasn't ever really seemed obscure to me... Maybe to other people though. But all the same, in those two different contexts, it doesn't seem like an inside joke to me. If there was yet another reference to the elephant man after this, then I'd call it safe to classify it as an inside joke(or more appropriately, a running gag). --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

==Linking Up==
I think it would be a good idea to link Saddy Dumpington in the inside references section.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:40, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Saddy Dumpington's already linked at the top under Characters. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 04:42, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Roger. Sorry! I'm just excited to be helping a little bit with the new toon.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:44, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

^^I feel the same way. I'm trying to find something I can do!!! lol --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:45, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Shut up. --Der Pepper

Der Pepper, comments like that will get you banned. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 18:59, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Linking to this article==
Should we title the link as Saddy Dumpington (toon), or Saddy Dumpington. I prefer the latter because wherever the link is, people will be able to presue by the text that it is a cartoon.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:48, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Saddy Dumpington is already an article about the character.--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I know that, but I talking about using the | thing in the link. I've seen it before for toons.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:51, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I vote we should hold off on the desicion until it is on the toons page and then make the visible part of the link say whatever the toons page says.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 05:05, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

And now we know, "A Folky Tale." So much for that. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

== Article Name ==

Why is this article not called "The Folky Tale of Saddy Dumpington"? That's what's on the title card. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
: I think the page should be moved as soon as the title appears on the 'Toons page (which it hasn't yet). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:53, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, I agree. I won't be surprised if that above is the full title. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:08, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::"A Folky Tale." I was close. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:::I agree with Dot com on this one. Why is the article named the way it is? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::::As "A Folky Tale," this is how it appears on the Toons menu. The question was asked when this page was called "Saddy Dumpington (toon)." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:11, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::D'oh! I'm not going to the main site enough! Thanks for clarifying! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:13, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::I do believe it is on the Toons page now! --[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 19:15, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Side issue: Should "The Folky Tale of Saddy Dumpington" be a redirect? I guess I could just make one, but... meh. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:19, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== lol ==

I laughed my butt of at Jargle.. anyone else? Beuler?

== Folk Tale World ==

I created the page [[Folk Tale World]] i'm bad at writing whole articles, so anyone be my guest.

:Shouldn't this be more properly called "Folky Tale World" or "Folky Tale Town"? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Ropes and Dopes==

I'm not sure if the "ropes are for dopes" comment should be kept in the remarks section (at least how it is). Although when people start a story with a quote, the quote is in the story, that is not always true. Maybe it should be in trivia. -[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 05:16, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:It seems like a remark to me. I find it odd that he used the quote as a transition to tell his story and then never mentioned it in the story itself. He used "passing out for the rest of their lives" to transition back to the rope. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:35, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Rope-a-Dope==
All this talk of ropes and dopes makes me think of Ali's "[[Wikipedia:Rope-a-dope|rope-a-dope]]" strategy vs. George Foreman. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05:32, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Homsar's line==

Any idea what Homsar is saying? The best I can make out is "I dazzle men," but that's only a guess. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Did he say something about a "mayor?"
:: It's possible. I'm pretty sure I hear a "dazzle", at the very least, but it's hard to tell. I know he's saying ''something'' and don't feel right leaving it as "''{muffled speech}''." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:31, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure he says "I'm a climbable man..."--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 06:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:First I heard "I'm a rectangular man" (Which is lined up cinely with his hat) But now it's more like "I'm a (something)able man". {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:53, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Someone just suggested "I'm a powerful man!" At first, I deleted it. After listening more closely, I'm pretty sure that's it. I put it back into the transcript that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::Maybe next week's QotW will reveal all! ;) -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Sounds to me like "I'm a talented man. - Lord-Z

:Either "I'm an admirable man" or "I'm a climbable man" is what I think. -Eternal

::Looks like someone changed it back to "muffled". Obviously we're not hearing the same thing. Any bets that next week's QotW clears this up? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:37, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::Only if TBC are going to read this talk page... {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I personally think it's "I'm square with the man", kinda inspired by the way his hat moves. I guess we really can't say though.. Heh. -[[User:Mick|Mick]]

== Martbell ==

Could this be some nod at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell Art Bell]? Those weird "dancing brothers" sure fit in with that hypothesis.

Haha or maybe not. I just wanted to have this on here because that's what it made me think of. [[User:64.164.69.221|64.164.69.221]] 11:36, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Old Intro? ==

:When Saddy Dumpington walks through the field and is silhouetted by the sun, could it be a reference to [[Old Intro 2]]? Should I add this to Inside References or STUFF or what? I'm new at this. - Eternal

==Jargle=Gargle?==
Another instance of "G-pronounced-J"? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:12, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I don't think so. It seems to be a mutation of the word "jargon." —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:15, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Jargon? I've heard "gargle" used in the sense of "nonesense" or "gobbledygook". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:19, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Look? ==

I don't know if my speakers are broken or what, but I hear something different for Strong Sad's first line. It sounds ambigously explicit to me. I certainly don't hear "Look," as indicated on the transcript, and I seem to hear a bit of an F sound. Does anybody else hear what I (kinda) hear?
: If you're implying what I think you're implying, then no. TBC have made it clear that any language more foul than "crap" is not to appear on homestarrunner.com. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:14, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
: PS. Maybe you're hearing the "S" at the end of Coach Z's "times" (which is ungrammatical, but Coach Z makes the ''very same mistake'' earlier in the same line, so...) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:19, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
==Are Infintesimally Small Imperfections Really Goofs?==
I think it's a very bad idea to set the precedent that very very small color differences are somehow goofs worth noting. I'm sure if we looked hard enough, we could find numerous "goofs" of that sort in every single cartoon. It's my opinion that goofs worth noting involve continuity mistakes in either the story line or gross features of the artwork, not some miniscule color differences in a tiny 50 square pixel area of the frame. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:30, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I dunno. This one I find kinda interesting. TBC have been making toons for a while now. They're not what you would call novices. They have the tools and the talent to get it right at this stage of the game. It's not like those old ''Scooby-Doo'' cartoons. You know, where the trap door stands out because it's painted in a slightly different color of blue from the rest of the floor. In that case, the door and the floor were created using two completely different means, so it was almost impossible to get right. In the case of this toon, however, getting the color right should just have been a matter of selecting the eyedropper tool and choosing the background. I do agree with you that we have to draw a line somewhere, though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Here's a description of the alleged goof: "the green is only 1/128 different. I had to zoom WAY in to be sure of this." Apart from being a good observation, is this really this level of "perfection" that we should expect from H*R? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:40, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::I don't think we expect perfection (what we expect is beside the point). The fact is that it should have been one color (#007E00), and instead it was another (#008000). That's the very definition of a goof. The difference is ever so slight, true, but once it's pointed out, it's very obvious, at least to me. This project is a complete chronicle of H*R. I think any fact should be included that is so easily verifiable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I understand what you're saying. I think we both agree that there is a limit to what should reasonably be noted. I just happen to think that this one lies outside that limit. I'm a little concerned that this'll set a precedent that'll send all the 12 year-olds off combing every frame at high-zoom looking for "goofs". ;)-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:58, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Wait, can you STUFF a goof?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 18:47, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Yes, goofs can be STUFF'd. But if we do, we need to be careful. We need to make it absolutely clear that the decision on this fact has the potential to set precedent, whether we accept it or decline it. Another possibility would be to have a discussion in a more central location, like [[HRWiki_talk:Standards]], to decide just where the line on goofs should be. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:54, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

This is ''not'' infintessimally small. It's not blaringly obvious, but it's clearly visible without zooming in if you know to look for it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:17, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Hay!==

A new toon! Is it good, I have yet to see it? -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 18:46, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Champo.. The HR Wiki-ers were all over thsi toon like white on rice... It was up for 10 seconds before the page started to take form.. in the matter fo 3 hrs. it was done, waiting for an official title... I was amazed.. It was like a bunch a little carpenters building a skycraper in like 5 minutes...--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 18:51, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

What the bleep are you talking about? I just saw it and the statements you made make no scence? Whater you speeching aboot?

== Coach X? Coach Y? ==

Any thoughts on Coaches X and Y?
Could they be related to Coach Z?
Will we hear of them again?

Talk:Weekly Fanstuff

Mick — Fri, 01 Jul 2005 07:40:14 GMT

Mick: /* Dennis */

The chet is fune. That's gotta be the most awesome fanstuff ever! I hope general comments are okay... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:17, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

:I don't know, we might want to have a designated section heading for them. Like "mindless chatter" or something. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:29, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

::Where'd that be? On this page? "Witty Banter" would be funny...but it's usually not witty... *sigh*. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 16:01, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::Yeah, I mean a general heading that would be used on a discussion page if someone just wants to leave a comment like you did. I don't want to encourage it though. And we've always called it "mindless chatter" in the disclaimer. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:22, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

Anyone have the pleh jallegiance screen shot? -- [[cyco]]

:Yes, I had it archived on my computer for several months now (unknowingly, no doubt), and only yesterday did I realise I had it available all this time...and I had yet to see it here on the wiki. The flag of strongbadia (in all its glory) can now be seen in weekly fanstuff! --[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 22:07, 3 Oct 2004 (MST)

What ''are'' homestar meltymen? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 09:41, 1 Oct 2004 (MST)

Almost 100% sure "sweetchucks" means Sweet Chuck Taylor's .. because the shoes are Converse, a brand by Chuck Taylor. -- [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]

== Cardboard Tube link ==

I've removed the link to [http://www.obeythetube.com obeythetube.com] from the Trogdor Stand-up cabinet listing. Some of the images in their "images" section look similar to the cabinet, but I wasn't able to find that particular image anywhere. Perhaps the image was just created using the same software? Does anyone have any information regarding this website and its images?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:11, 5 Oct 2004 (MST)

It's definately there. Go to images => mapojects => old school arcade. They have a bunch or arcade cabinets, including the exact trogdor image.
--[[User:209.51.90.71|209.51.90.71]] 10:49, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Indeed it is, linked to from [http://www.obeythetube.com/pages/i_map-arcade.html this page]: [http://www.obeythetube.com/images/mapobjects/arcade_trogdor.jpg arcade_trogdor.jpg]. Well done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:40, 10 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Dates ==

Are these dates positive, or do I just remember "sweetchucks" being before "The Cheat in a Crisper Drawer"? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User_Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

:As far as I know, they're accurate. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

::They are all correct.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:58, 10 Nov 2004 (MST)

:::I must have bad memory skills. Whatever that means. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User_Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

== Possiblity for a table? ==

A number of the images in this article are rather large and a few are off-site images. Nevertheless, does anyone else think that the weekly fanstuff article is a candidate for a table? I believe [[User:Tom|Tom]] implemented a nice table, very recently, on a similiar article over at [[Weekly Sketchbook|Sketchbook]], and I just wanted to know if anyone else thought that it would be a good idea? I could help with the image uploading if a few others think it might work.
--[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 22:50, 11 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I've converted it to a table. All that needs to be done now is for the images to be described in the fourth collum there.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:43, 10 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Skullcap ==
Is it just me or did they totally miss out on the "homestarmukle"???

Homestar Skullcap, what kinda name is that?

:That's what TBC decided to name it, mystery poster. Appears to be a 'yarmulka' to me. "Skullcap" is a just a more neutral (politically correct) word for the same garment. --[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 23:09, 11 Nov 2004 (MST)

Heh, I suppose the political-correctness is an issue, but I thought it was a great funny that got passed up. : ) I'm a long-time hrwiki lurker. --Aegd

Hey So that is my head and my Yarmulke. I didnt think anyone would get Homestarmulke. But how awesome.

Shouldn't this description read something like "Homestar on a yarmulka (Jewish skullcap)"? The skullcap mushroom description is flat-out incorrect. -- random lurker

==Archival==
This page should be archived periodically to prevent it from getting too long. Once a month mayhaps? - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 00:47, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

I agree. Perhaps we can have a poll on the forums for choosing the best time increment to archive? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:40, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Message to [[TBC]] from [[Jonathan Howe]] ==

Be sure to view the XML source of this file:
[http://www.homestarrunner.com/weeklies/weeklies.xml]

:I learned about this XML file when I was poking through these flash files: [http://www.homestarrunner.com/fanstuff.swf] & [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sketchbook.swf] when I found I couldn't view the image or the text when those two preceding files are saved remotely (i.e., on a hard drive.) '''Jonathan''' (I assume his last name is Howe, as he is a programmer) has left a message in a comment to the "'''Chapos'''" about the placement of certain "character shortcuts." He more or less 'signs' the comment with the words "Love, jonathan." I just found this rather amusing. Does anyone else? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:37, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Alt text ==

Please leave the alt text for the images as the exact text that appears in the images. This is for easier and better searching. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:19, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Dennis ==

Just a side note that the Dennis sign is cut off, below Dennis is probally "Willows Rd." or stuff like that. Not that un-common for roads to be nammed after people in the USA. Just for those that don't realize. - [[User:Mick|Mick]]
:True or not, it's on this site because it's on H*R.com. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:35, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: UPDATE: But I'm going for not, because we can clearly see where the bottom of the sign is. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:36, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Whoa, Didn't see that one.. Ok scratch that. - [[User:Mick|Mick]]

Talk:Weekly Fanstuff

Mick — Fri, 01 Jul 2005 07:34:46 GMT

Mick: Dennis

boring (really)

Mick — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 01:30:44 GMT

Mick: Fixed image.. I guess.

[[Image:sbemail129.png|thumb|"Staring at a wall helps boredom."]]

'''Strong Bad Email #131'''

We learn how boring Free Country USA really is. Bubs counts discount bricks.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The King of Town}} (Easter Egg), {{Film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), [[Pom Pom's girls]] (Easter Egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Stick]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[King of Town's Castle]](Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' June 06, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 4:44

==Transcript==

==Easter Eggs==

==Fun Facts==

==External Links==
[[HR:sbemail131.html|watch "boring (really)"]]
[[HR:sbemail131.swf|view the Flash file for "boring (really)"]]
[[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=3628|See the HRWiki forum thread]]

boring (really)

Mick — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 01:26:47 GMT

Mick: Wrong image.. x.x

[[Image:sbemail131.png|thumb|"Staring at a wall helps boredom."]]

'''Strong Bad Email #131'''

We learn how boring Free Country USA really is. Bubs counts discount bricks.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The King of Town}} (Easter Egg), {{Film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), [[Pom Pom's girls]] (Easter Egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Stick]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[King of Town's Castle]](Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}},

'''Date:''' June 06, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 4:44

==Transcript==

==Easter Eggs==

==Fun Facts==

==External Links==
[[HR:sbemail131.html|watch "boring (really)"]]
[[HR:sbemail131.swf|view the Flash file for "boring (really)"]]

boring (really)

Mick — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 01:26:16 GMT

Mick: Added snapshot/thumb

[[Image:sbemail129.png|thumb|"Staring at a wall helps boredom."]]

'''Strong Bad Email #131'''

We learn how boring Free Country USA really is. Bubs counts discount bricks.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The King of Town}} (Easter Egg), {{Film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), [[Pom Pom's girls]] (Easter Egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Stick]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[King of Town's Castle]](Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}},

'''Date:''' June 06, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 4:44

==Transcript==

==Easter Eggs==

==Fun Facts==

==External Links==
[[HR:sbemail131.html|watch "boring (really)"]]
[[HR:sbemail131.swf|view the Flash file for "boring (really)"]]

File:sbemail131.png

Mick — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 01:24:45 GMT

Mick: Snapshot from SBEmail131 - Boring (Really) [Resaved as a png]

Snapshot from SBEmail131 - Boring (Really) [Resaved as a png]

User:Mick

Mick — Mon, 09 May 2005 18:02:10 GMT

Mick:

Heywo! I'm Mick, also know as '''micksam7''' (my full, typical nick name).

I'm generally lurking around here, so don't expect much out of me in terms of editing at the moment, besides editing this page maybe..

Anyway, contact infomation can be found [http://neodecoder.com/index.php?page=staff&id=21 on this page] so I don't need to update a thousand and one pages around the net when and if I change it.

==About Me==
I'm a php programmer, server admin, bottlenose dolphin, male, and about 15 years old. Go me!

So, uhh, yay?

Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease

Mick — Mon, 09 May 2005 18:00:47 GMT

Mick: Added comment

== Lollipop? ==
I believe they're more properly called ice cream bars. This might be an American name though, but for context it may be more approperate. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 17:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

: That's what I was thinking too.. --[[User:Mick|Mick]] 18:00, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

File:the bug.png

Mick — Mon, 09 May 2005 17:05:39 GMT

Mick: The bug flys along it's dotted path.

The bug flys along it's dotted path.

Bug In Mouth Disease

Mick — Mon, 09 May 2005 16:51:46 GMT

Mick:

Homestar swallows a bug and fears the end of the good times. Strong Bad is glued to the TV.

[[Image:Bug_in_mouth.PNG|thumb|Homestar swallowed a bug?!]]

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Sad]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The bug]], [[The King of Town]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Bubs]]

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

'''Date:''' May 9, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 5:10

'''Page Title:''' Don't...kill...bugs.

==Transcript==

Under construction... --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==External Links==
* [[HR:buginmouth.html|watch "Bug In Mouth Disease"]]
* [[HR:buginmouth.swf|view the Flash file for "Bug In Mouth Disease"]]
* [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=3174 forum thread re: Bug In Mouth Disease]

Public Radio Sounds

Mick — Sat, 07 May 2005 03:41:46 GMT

Mick: Added larger logo image

[[Image:PRS.png|198px|thumb|A trendy tote bag]]
'''Public Radio Sounds (PRS)''' is [[Free Country, USA]]'s public radio station. It has a "Smooth and Smarmy" sound, and makes sure that information is accurate by referring to UN Secretary Council Members. It gives out incentives such as tote bags and bottle openers if you donate money to them. [[Marzipan]] is not only a listener, but also a contributor, but she never did receive her tote bag, as [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] wore it as a hat.

==Appearances==
* Email [[radio]]

[[Category:Radio stations]]

File:PRS.png

Mick — Sat, 07 May 2005 03:39:47 GMT

Mick: Lets get a close-up for this. PRS (Public Radio Sounds) logo from sbemail "radio".

Lets get a close-up for this. PRS (Public Radio Sounds) logo from sbemail "radio".

User:Mick

Mick — Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:14:02 GMT

Mick: Lets remove the weirdness for now.

Heywo! I'm Mick, also know as micksam7 (my full, typical nick name).

I'm generally lurking around here, so don't expect much out of me in terms of editing at the moment, besides editing this page maybe..

Anyway, contact infomation can be found [http://neodecoder.com/index.php?page=staff&id=21 on this page] so I don't need to update a thousand and one pages around the net when and if I change it.

==About Me==
I'm a php programmer, server admin, bottlenose dolphin, male, and about 15 years old. Go me!

So, uhh, yay?

User:Mickphin

Mick — Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:12:55 GMT

Mick: Add in link to new one

Updated user page is at: [[User:Mick]]

== Old Stuff ==

I'm micksam7. No clue why but the wiki didn't allow me to enter micksam7.

I'm a php programmer and stuffs. Yeah. I can probally do it all if it's related to php.. Uhm.. So... Hi! My website is [http://neodecoder.com Neodecoder.com]

== Other Jabber ==

So uhh.. I was really wondering here, this site pays quite a bit for hosting.. Uhm.. I got a server... although it's reliability isn't 100% rated yet (I'm still getting the hang of server setup and all, but it's currently working nicely). Wait.. well.. phpBB doesn't work on php5 (or so I'm told), and php4 keeps crashing for some reason.. still trying to figure that out. Anyway, I'm not the one to go up and say "Hey I can offer you free hosting!" and stuff, so I'll just leave this.. here.. Besides it's not quite.. ready.. yet.. it's been a little crashy -- but only during the offtimes when I decide to play with things, otherwise it's been fine for the week I've had it.. I think. --My server that is.

Also, contact, junk, and randomness about me would be [http://neodecoder.com/index.php?page=staff&id=21 here]. And yes, I am secretly a dolphin in some research center place.

Erm, so what else.. Well, there are quite a few members here from my website.. hence partially how I found my way here I think.

Uhm.. I hope those few links are allowed.. uhm.. It is after all a user page right? Erm..

So uhh... I, can't really think of anything else to put here.. other then I really don't understand why Mickphin worked while micksam7 and micksam didn't for my wiki name. x.x

- Mick da Dolphin

User:Mick

Mick — Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:10:20 GMT

Mick: Bah, getting use to wiki formatting.

Heywo! I'm Mick, Bottlenose Dolphin and also know as micksam7 (my full, typical nick name).

I'm generally lurking around here, so don't expect much out of me in terms of editing at the moment, besides editing this page maybe..

Anyway, contact infomation can be found [http://neodecoder.com/index.php?page=staff&id=21 on this page] so I don't need to update a thousand and one pages around the net when and if I change it.

==About Me==
I'm a php programmer, server admin, a dolphin, and about 15 years old. Go me!

So, uhh, yay?

User:Mick

Mick — Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:09:50 GMT

Mick:

User:Mick

Mick — Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:08:00 GMT

Mick: Creating my userpage