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[[Image:lappysplosion.PNG|thumb|"So popular lately!"]]

Homestar's still checking his [[Hremails]]. Strong Bad's had enough.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, [[Female Lappy 486]], {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|The Announcer}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Hremail Room]], [[Computer Room]], [[The Show]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Bathroom of The Brothers Strong]], [[Athletic Field]], [[Carnival Tent]], [[The Field]], [[The Gymnasium]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, June 30, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 5:04

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
''{Homestar is sitting at his [[hremail]] desk. He has bags under his eyes and is slouching. He slips further and further down over the next line.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{half-mumbling}'' And that, Gordon Tiecollarondemous, is why I decided to ''keep'' calling you Gordon Tiecollarondemous...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{from off-screen}'' Aaah! ''{A record scratch is heard.}'' I can't takes it no more!

''{Cut to Strong Bad, screaming.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Somebody hand me a rake!

''{A rake is handed to Strong Bad. He grabs it and smacks Homestar with it. A white flash and an explosive-like effect on Homestar are seen when this happens.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Raaaake!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{dropping the rake}'' Somebody hand me a shovel!

''{A shovel is handed to him. He smacks Homestar with it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Shovel!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{dropping the shovel}'' Somebody hand me a Garden Weasel!

''{A tool with a very spiky end is handed to Strong Bad. Again, he hits Homestar. Homestar comes back up with a "CENSORED" sign over his face; bruises and a stream of blood can be seen around it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{calmly}'' Aw, a Weasel.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{wiping his brow}'' Phew.

''{Pan over to show Marzipan, holding the rake and shovel.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, Marzipan!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Always happy to help!

''{Cut to the Lappy. Strong Bad sits down in front of it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sorry, Lappy. My triumphant return to checking emails calls for some fresh blood!

''{He closes the Lappy, leaving a faint backwards "Lappy 486" in the wall behind it. He pushes it off to the side.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Tech nerds, feast your eyes... on ''Steak Sandwich!''

''{He places said sandwich on the desk in front of him to a trumpet fanfare. Cut to a solo image of the sandwich.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The Steaky Steaky 6 Millenium Edition ''{a steak-shaped logo for this appears in the corner}'' is a processing wonder horse, capable of sauteed onions, ''{a logo for "Sauteed Onions Ghz" appears}'' grilled mushrooms, ''{a logo for "Grilled Mushrooms 32x" appears}'' and all right, never mind.

''{The Steak logo swivels as though its left side was no longer supported while the other logos fall off the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' This is just a steak sandwich, isn't it?

''{Cut to a rear view of the desk, as Strong Bad looks at the sandwich.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I guess I'm a little... out-of-practice with this stuff. ''{to the Lappy}'' All right, Lappy, you can stay alive for at least one more week.

''{He pushes the sandwich aside and returns the Lappy to its rightful position. He opens the Lappy and a startup tone is heard. Cut to behind Strong Bad. The Female Lappy is visible.}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' Another week with you, Strong Bad, is like 8 dog-weeks in cat-years.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, are you sure you're not Senor Cardgage's computer?

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{from offscreen}'' No...

''{Cut back to show Senor Cardgage standing near Strong Bad, holding the sandwich. Strong Bad is smiling.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' This steak samwich is Beverly ''clearly'' my complooter, Bathsheba.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{still smiling}'' Hey, Cardgage! D'you wanna help me come out of e-tirement?

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Ummmmm... no.

''{Strong Bad lowers his head in disappointment. Senor Cardgage turns around and starts walking in place while his hair gets slightly blown, and sounds of traffic are heard. Strong Bad looks up in confusion, and starts to nervously lean back.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sounding uncomfortable}'' I'm quite scared right now.

''{Cut to the Lappy as Strong Bad turns back to it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's start over. ''{types "strongbad_email.exe"}'' Oh, man, I haven't checked my email in so long, I bet there's gonna be a half-zillion messages waiting for me!

''{He presses Return. The following comes up with a ding: "Oh, smokes! You have 2 new messages!", which are "Coolness" from "Kelly" and "Thanks for loaning me your rake" from "Homestar".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. Well, a half-''four'' messages waiting for me isn't bad. ''{He brings up "Coolness".}''

<blockquote class="lappy email"><div>subject: coolness</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
What was the coolest explosion you ever saw? 
 
From, 
Kelly 
USA
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad echoes his own name. He says Kelly's name in a slightly seductive tone, leading into "USA" as "Oosa".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mmmm! An exotic lady from the far east! ''{typing}'' That's kind of a vague question don'tcha think? That's like me asking, "Dear Kelly, what's your favorite molecule of air that you've breathed?" ''{not typed}'' Or... ''{clears screen, typing:}'' "What's your favorite Strong Bad muscle that you wanted to rub with hot oils?" You gotta narrow it down somehow. Like, do you wanna know about the coolest looking explosion I ever rigged up in Strong Sad's org-ethnic breakfast pouch on a Tuesday?

''{Cut to the kitchen of the Brothers Strong. Strong Bad is pretending to eat from a cereal bowl with a spoon. Strong Sad is standing next to him, wearing a tuxedo, and looking expectantly at a toaster.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{poorly acting}'' Mmm. This cereal is sooooo cerealy.

''{The toaster pops up a breakfast pastry with a conspicuous red light on it. Strong Sad catches it. Over the next line, the light begins to blink faster and faster while making ticking noises.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, child! I am gonna enjoy this saag paneer Pop-Tart with a vengeance! Then I've got to go stand around in this tuxedo with a ven— OOOHHH!!

''{The Pop-Tart explodes into green goo, which gets all over Strong Sad and leaves a couple of green stain drips on the camera.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Waa-ha-ha-ha-ha!

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Or do you wanna know like, the coolest explosion I ever saw that had one of those blast-wavy Saturn rings around it that've become so popular lately.

''{Cut to Strong Bad in his bathroom, holding a newspaper.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' 'Cuz I've caused ''plenty'' of those.

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' But the coolest part was actually later on, when I was telling Coach Z all about it.

''{Cut to the Athletic Field. Strong Bad is talking to Coach Z.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And so first, there was this little explosion, that was like, "Dooooooj!" ''{some drops of spit fly away from him toward Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ya don't say?

'''STRONG BAD:''' And then secondary charges blew and it was like, "Ka-plssshhhhh!" ''{more drops of spit fly toward Coach Z, who draws back}''

'''COACH Z:''' You say?

'''STRONG BAD:''' And finally one of those blast-wavy Saturn rings that've become so popular lately shot out, and was like, "PSSSSSSHHHHH!!!!"

''{Strong Bad draws out the explosion. A wave of spit drops flies toward Coach Z for nearly eight seconds. As Strong Bad continues the explosion, Coach Z pulls out a bar of soap and a bottle of "PORT PLUS +". He rubs the soap on his body and dumps some shampoo over his hat. He then tosses the bottle away and rubs his hat, which becomes sudsy.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Thanks for the great story, Strong Bad! I was gonna hit the showers, but now I don't has to!

''{Strong Bad spits a few more drops toward Coach Z. Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Everybody knows that the more spit it takes to describe an explosion, the cooler said explosion was. ''And'' the cooler said explosion-talker-abouter is!

''{Cut to Strong Sad talking to Coach Z in the Athletic Field.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' And then my saag paneer Pop-Tart said-a, like... "Ptoo."

''{A single large drop of spit flies toward Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{angrily}'' Are you kiddin' me? I can't even warsh my hands with that mess!

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' But if history has taught us anything, then we all know that the coolest explosions have come from my very own computers.

''{A quick montage results where the Tandy explodes, throwing Strong Bad back, Strong Bad knocks the Tandy off the desk with an inexplicable explosion, Bubs' shotgun blows a hole in the Compy, Strong Mad gulps from a mini-explosion from the Compy, and the Tandy explodes in a green pixelated mushroom cloud with Homestar nearby. Cut back to the Lappy, with the female Lappy visible.}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' But waimt, Strong Bad, does that means?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm afraid so, sweet Lappy. I figured that USB self-destruct button I bought a couple weeks ago woulda clued you in.

''{Cut to a closeup of a big red button with "dooj" written on it, connected to the Lappy via USB. Then cut to a rear view of the desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But... it's time. ''{Cut to behind Strong Bad}'' Why wait around for someone else to blow up your computer tomorrow when you can blow it up yourself today?

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' You should put that on your bwees-ness cards.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sadly}'' That's a great idea, Lappy. ''{cut to rear view of the desk}'' Good bye. ''{presses the button}'' Dooj.

''{Cut to a silhouette of the house with a tree (without leaves) beside it. An explosion knocks the tree away and blows the roof clear of the house. Two shockwaves appear as part of the explosion.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So popular lately.

''{A ghostly image of the Female Lappy icon with fangs appears in the explosion while a beating heart sound is heard.}''

''{Cut to Bubs and Coach Z on lawn chairs, watching the explosion.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oooooor! Awwwwwr! 
'''BUBS:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Ooooooh! Awwwwww!

'''COACH Z:''' I can't wait till Strong Bad tells me 'bout that one! I'm'a go ahead and strip down to da nude!

'''BUBS:''' ''{pointing at Coach Z}'' Ponk!

''{Cut to Strong Bad, standing next to the desk. Strong Bad himself is unharmed, but the desk is broken in two from the explosion and the paint has been torn away.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And now that—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{poking in from the side; quickly}'' Don't call it a comeback.

'''STRONG BAD:''' —is what I call—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{more angrily; still quickly}'' Don't call it a comeback.

'''STRONG BAD:''' —a—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{disappears off the side and reappears upside-down}'' Don't call it a comeback.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{jumping forward on his knee}'' —comeback!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{disappears and reappears rightside-up, makes an annoyed sigh}''

''{Homestar disappears while Strong Bad looks upward.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, if a paper survived that, maybe come down... now?

''{Black ashes fall from the top of the screen. Strong Bad looks down at them.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. Looks like I need a new one of those, too.

==Easter Eggs==
*When the [[Lappy]] tells [[Strong Bad]] to put his catch phrase about computer destruction on his "bwees-ness" cards, click "bwees-ness card" to see a business card for a computer destruction business.
*At the end, click on the center hole in the wall to see an exchange between [[Strong Sad]] as Gardenboy from [[yes, wrestling]] and [[The Announcer]].
:''{Cut to a scene at the [[Gymnasium]] with The Announcer at the left and Gardenboy at the right}''
:'''GARDENBOY:''' Well, you know, announcer man, that's right! All you gophers out there better listen up! The Magnificent Marzipan stole all Gardenboy's garden tools, and I don't care if she's a women's champion, a men's champion, a half woman-half man's champion... Uh, do we have one of those?
:'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Uh, yes, I believe we do.
:'''GARDENBOY:''' Well, can I fight them instead?

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Saag|Saag paneer]] is an Indian curry based dish consisting of spinach, mustard leaf, curry, and [[Wikipedia:Paneer|paneer cheese]].

===Trivia===
[[File:Homestar uncensored.png|thumb|"Aw, a Weasel."]]
*The hiatus between [[email thunder]] and this email (280 days, or nine months and one week) was the longest gap between any two Strong Bad Emails until July 13, 2010, when 281 days had elapsed since the posting of [[videography]].
*Although it is only visible for a fraction of a second, the text on Homestar's desk has now been changed to "Still this guy!"
*When the Flash file is decompiled, Homestar's battered face is visible behind the censored box.
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container|mega race]]".
*This episode marks the first time Strong Bad actually acknowledges how creepy [[Senor Cardgage]] is.
**To be fair, it also marks the first time Senor Cardgage exhibits [[Homsar]]-like [[Homsar#Homsar_and_the_Laws_of_Physics|reality-altering powers]].
*This is the first time the exterior of [[House of the Brothers Strong|Strong Bad's house]] is shown outside of [[SBCG4AP]].
*Strong Bad's [[Periodicals|newspaper]] contains the following [[News Articles|articles]]:
{| style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 3px solid #999"
| style="border-right: 3px solid #999; font-size: 2em; text-align: center; line-height: 1em; padding: 5px; font-family:Times New Roman,serif" | Back Pape
| style="border-left: 3px solid #999; font-size: 2em; text-align: center; line-height: 1em; padding: 5px; font-family:Times New Roman,serif" | Da NewsPapes
|-
| style="border-right: 3px solid #999; padding: 5px; font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:120%" | A sports player signed a contract worth a bunch of money. "Whooey!" said the player's uncle. "I could buy a car with that much cashness."
| style="border-left: 3px solid #999; padding: 5px; font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:120%" | Global relations set all types of box office records this weekend. Studio execs were encouraged by the turn -around. So was I.
|}
*This is the only [[hremail]] accessible from [[Denny's Menu]], as well as the only one accessible from outside the [[New Stuff]] page, not counting the unnamed hremail in [[email thunder]].
*There is no link to email Strong Bad in this email.

===Remarks===
*In [[virus]], the virus caused everything to become corrupted. As part of the corruption, Bubs's shotgun resembled Homestar's leg. However, in the flashback, the shotgun is clearly still a shotgun even before the [[Compy 386]] is shot.
**After the virus was gone, Bubs was seen using a pump action shotgun, when in this clip, it is a double-barreled shotgun.
*Homestar Runner's email was not blocked by [[Edgar's Baby's Daddy]] or his Idiot Filter, as all Homestar emails are in [[candy product]] and [[Strong Badia the Free]], respectively.
*The Tandy 400 explosion from [[gimmicks]] was strong enough to blast Strong Bad through the wall of Strong Sad's room and severely burn his mask, yet the computer room showed no visible damage. The Lappy 486 explosion, on the other hand, was powerful enough to blast the roof off of Strong Bad's house, cleave his desk in two, blow a hole in the wall, and burn one or both of the [[The Paper|Papers]] to ashes, yet left Strong Bad completely unharmed.
*The USB standard had not yet been invented at the time 486-based laptops were available.
*This email contains several instances of [[Deliberately Poor English]].
*Marzipan's Garden Weasel has five wheels with four tines each, while real models have six wheels with eight tines each.
*The subject of Kelly's message, "Coolness", is spelled with a capital 'C' when shown in Strong Bad's inbox. However, when Strong Bad opens the message, "coolness" is displayed with a lowercase 'c'.
*Strong Bad claims to have bought the self-destruct button a couple weeks ago, although at the beginning of the email he was not expecting to be using the Lappy anymore.
*The word "contrast" on the Tandy is in a different font in this email in its first and third appearances than it was in the emails the scenes were pulled from.
*Bubs has an older design in this email, possibly because the scene he was in was possibly recycled from [[Happy Fireworks]].
*The Cheat predicted the Lappy would be destroyed in Sbemail 200 in [[Place ya bets!]]. He was only one email off from the truth.

===Goofs===
*When Homestar is hit with the Garden Weasel, his face is still visible. The bruises, scars, and blood only appear ''after'' the camera zooms in.
*When the ashes of the paper come down, they fall in front of Strong Bad, but after, some are behind Strong Bad on the floor. Also, although Strong Bad does not move, he is standing on some of the ashes as well.
*When Strong Bad is holding the Garden Weasel and wiping his head, the arm wiping his head is not visible.
*The word "millennium" is misspelled during the description of the steak sandwich.
*For one frame the black part of Strong Bad's mask in the reflection comes off the Tandy when Strong Bad punches it.
*Strong Bad's pants switch from having a purple sheen to having a gray sheen during the course of the cartoon.
*When Strong Bad asks Kelly if she wants to know about the coolest explosion with "blast-wavy Saturn rings around it that've become so popular lately", he puts a period after it, when the sentence is in the form of a question.


===Inside References===
*The text on the mug on Homestar's desk appears to read "Auntie Gertr♥de's Tea", which is likely a reference to [[Aunt Gert]], the pantyhose doll from [[garage sale]].
*The explosion montage comprises scenes from [[gimmicks]], [[invisibility]] (slightly modified; see below), [[virus]] (not previously depicted), [[retirement]] (B), and [[retirement]] (A), respectively.
**In his flashback, the broken [[Tandy 400]] explodes when Strong Bad knocks it off his desk. There was no such explosion in [[invisibility]].
*The broken section of wall above the destroyed desk is the same shape as the the broken section of wall behind the Compy at the end of [[virus]].
*[[Dooj]], as the USB self-destruct button reads, is a common sound effect used for explosions in the Homestar Runner universe.
*The scene of Bubs and Coach Z in the field is reminiscent of [[Happy Fireworks]], in which the two watched [[fireworks]] in a similar fashion.
**Likewise, the can of [[Cold One#Coldson Lite|Coldson Lite]] reappears.
**This toon was released just several days before the 4th of July, the holiday Happy Fireworks was about.
*Strong Sad's "Gardenboy" wrestling persona (seen in the Easter egg) originated in the email [[yes, wrestling]].
*The entire toon is about [[explosions]].
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]] when Senor Cardgage first shows up in his house, and he and [[Strong Sad Smiling|Strong Sad]] both smile in the Pop-Tart scene.
*Although censored, [[blood]] can still be seen trickling down Homestar Runner's face after being hit with the garden weasel.
*The scene in which Strong Bad introduces his "new computer" is a parody of the [[Lappy 486]]'s intro in the email [[animal]]. The background is originally from [[The Show]].
*Strong Bad's description of the explosion to Coach Z includes [[spitting]].
*Coach Z's "Port Plus" was previously mentioned in [[Jibblies 2]], where he asked the [[Horrible Painting]] for some.
*The Lappy's pronunciation "bwees-ness" was used previously in [[theme park]], where Strong Bad makes fun of how the email's author misspells "business".
*Strong Sad exclaiming "Oh, child!" echoes [[retirement]], when the Lappy exclaimed the same thing.
*The "Fightin' Coach Zs" logo from [[One Two, One Two]] appears on the athletic field.
*Strong Bad's line "Aaah! I can't takes it no more!" from offscreen is reminiscent of [[First Time Here?]].
*"Org-ethnic" is a [[portmanteau]] of "[[organic]]" and "ethnic".
*The [[fang]]ed Lappy previously appeared in [[SBCG4AP]], when the player [[deleted]] an email.
*Strong Bad imitating an echo when he reads "Dear Strong Bad," is reminiscent of the beginning of [[redesign]], in which Strong Bad's voice actually echoed as he read those words. (redesign had also been released after an extensive hiatus between Strong Bad Emails.)
*Strong Bad reading "Da Newspapes" in the bathroom refers to [[candy product]] and [[underlings]], complete with matching articles and similar one-liners.
*The pop-tart scene involves Strong Bad [[Poor Acting|acting poorly]].

===Real-World References===
*The [[Wikipedia:Garden Weasel|Garden Weasel]] is a garden implement made famous mainly through late night infomercials.
*Strong Bad's remark that Kelly-Usa sounds exotic is a reference to the [[Snopes:business/genius/usa.asp|urban legend]] about Japan renaming a town Usa. This legend was also referenced in [[Donut Unto Others]].
*Senor Cardgage's "Beverly clearly" is a reference to children's author [[Wikipedia:Beverly Cleary|Beverly Cleary]].
*A [[Wikipedia:Pop-Tarts|Pop-Tart]] is a popular breakfast pastry that comes in several flavors and is commonly prepared with a toaster.
*Coach Z's "PORT PLUS +" is a reference to the shampoo/conditioner "[[Wikipedia:Pert Plus|Pert Plus]]", just in a Coach Z accent.
*Strong Bad's "Dooj" button resembles the "Easy" button from commercials for [[Wikipedia:Staples Inc.|Staples]], an office supply chain.
*The Fanged Lappy appearing in a cloud over Strong Bad's house could also be a reference to the movie poster for the original [[Wikipedia:Fright Night|Fright Night]] which featured a female vampire face baring its fangs in a cloud over the hero's house.
*Homestar's repeating the phrase "Don't call it a comeback" is a reference to the first line of "[[WIkipedia:Mama Said Knock You Out (song)|Mama Said Knock You Out]]" by [[Wikipedia:LL Cool J|LL Cool J]].
*Those "blast-wavy Saturn rings that've become so popular lately" is commonly referred to as the [[Wikipedia:Praxis effect|Praxis Effect]], named after the explosion of the Klingon moon of the same name at the beginning of the movie [[Wikipedia:Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country|Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country]]. Its use in the movie is generally considered to be the first acknowledged use of the effect.
*Bub's PONK! drink is likely a reference to the Scout's BONK! energy drink from ''[[Wikipedia:Team Fortress 2|Team Fortress 2]]''. Bubs shouts Ponk! in the same manner the Scout shouts Bonk! in that game.
*Gardenboy's line in the Easter Egg that he doesn't care if Marzipan is a "women's champion or man's champion..." is a nod to [[Wikipedia:Andy Kaufman|Andy Kaufman]], the intergender wrestling champion.
*[[Wikipedia:Bathsheba|Bathsheba]] was the wife of Uriah the Hittite and later of David, king of Israel. She is most known for the Bible story in which King David seduced her.

==External Links==
*[[HR:hremail3184.html|watch "hremail3184"]]
*[[HR:hremail3184.swf|view the Flash file for "hremail3184"]]
*[[Forum:15632|forum thread re: "hremail3184"]]

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Talk:hremail 3184

Loafing — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 02:36:47 GMT

Loafing: /* Because someone didn't believe me */ oops, it's been so long

{{talk}}

==Category==
Should we categorize this as a toon, Homestar Runner email, or Strong Bad email? Maybe as all three? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Definitely Hremail and Sbemail. It's already on the Email list, and it has Hremail already in the title. {{User:Itama/sig}} 06:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::It's listed as a sbemail on homestarrunner.com. We should go with that.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::: It's important to note that on the main page, it's listed as "New Toon," but does have "HREMAIL" in the title AND shows up in the SBEMAIL list on Denny's Menu... so, in a strange twist of fate, it is regarded as all three? [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 14:15, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:::: Also, on the toons page the tell-tale "HRE" blob makes it a definate hremail, and Denny's Menu calls it out as a sbemail, so it is, indeed, both. {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 01:23, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

That phrase Homestar says.. "Don't Call it a comeback"... isn't that an L.L. Cool J lyric?

Actually, this is more of a sbemail, because TBC has changed the "New Toon" bubble to "new strong bad email". [[User:SuperLuigi|SuperLuigi]] 14:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:I always though that a Hremail ''is'' a toon. Hremails don't have there own button on the remote. But any way, lets look at the facts. The html says hremail. The main page says new sbemail. And in the Denny's Menu it says Hremail 3184. But in fun in the living room, the Hremail is only in the new stuff page. If you click on toons, it is nowhere, just like a sbemail. I think that on the new stuff page, it should say that it is a sbemail, because it is classified as such. What do you all think? [[User:origonalname]]

== Fun Fact? ==

Should we add a fun fact that in the commentary for [[email thunder]], Matt Chapman said that there would be no more emails? Or is it not important enough? {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 08:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Easy Button? REALLY? ==

I was more reminded of those USB panic buttons and such, and TBH the 'easy button' isn't the only big red button out there. There's an excuse button, a bull**** button, an insult button, all kindsa buttons.
:I'm not trying to police the wiki, but I don't think you should use swear words, even on the talk pages. {{User:BubbleRevolution/sig}} 18:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::No, really, they sell a such thing as a button that says 'Bull****' when you press it. And it's common courtesy not to edit peoples' statements on talk pages, so I'd like it if you don't edit what I said, even if for censorship purposes, which I don't really support anyway. [[Special:Contributions/98.176.133.158|98.176.133.158]] 21:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Nobody cares what you don't support. Follow the rules, anonny. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 05:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Please don't be hatin', peoples. If the curse word is removed per Wiki policy, then there's no need to continue the conversation. Back on the actual ''topic'' of this post, I think it looks really similar to the easy button, and is shown at a straight-on angle as in the commercials for whatever store (Office Max? Staples?). --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 12:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::IMHO, it just looks like any other oversized red button. But whatever. [[Special:Contributions/98.176.133.158|98.176.133.158]] 13:29, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::The easy button came to mind first for me, but I think nonetheless it's rather TTATOT. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 19:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::This is pretty cut and dried, guys. It resembles a Staples Easy Button almost to a T. The only difference is the font used for "dooj." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|I slayed the Kerrek]]. Really. 03:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I think the staples easy button is certainly the most famous of big red buttons of this shape, if not the only one (as i haven't seen anything similar that wasn't a parody of the staples button already). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

I send a email for Homestar

Dear Strong Bad
the sbemail 200 is your last email. [[User:Lucsar|Lucsar]] 11:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Uhhhhhhh... no kiddin'... {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 11:51, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::I think we should close this discussion topic. [[User:MenacingBanjo|MenacingBanjo]] 16:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

::: Okay, so you sent Homestar an email for Strong Bad and used terrible grammer. So? [[User:SBE-mail Checker Dan]]

== Disc 7 ==

So, having made this email, this either means TBC will put this on Everything Else Vol. 4, or strongbad_email.exe Disc 7. And if it is the email DVD, then they will have to make at least 29 more. And then stopping at 230 would look untidy, so then they might make another 70 and release it as discs 8 and 9. But then they might want to take it up to at least an even 10... Hmmmmmmm... {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 11:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Or maybe they don't _have_ to make anything but rather just do stuff they like whenever they have an idea and the time. ;) If they should decide to end sbemails for good one day and happen to end them with an uneven number or too little content for a new DVD, they can do that. They could put them on a mixed DVD with "Everything Else" or just leave it at that and never sell them at all. Or they would find other options. Anyway, I think you get my point. ;) (It's me, Cass from Germany. Comp just logged me out.) --[[Special:Contributions/95.222.57.4|95.222.57.4]] 12:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::Yeah, maybe that would have been better to put on the forum... {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 09:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Beth-shiba? ==

Is Senor Cardgage saying, "Beth-shiba," as written in the transcript, or [[Wikipedia:Bathsheba|Bathsheba]]?
:I'm pretty sure it's "Beth", because this is Senor we're talking about. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 12:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::He pronounced it Bath. The vowel sound Senor makes is almost 100% clearly an A sound. [[User:MenacingBanjo|MenacingBanjo]] 13:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::: I agree it's "Bathsheba" [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 14:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Should that become a real-world reference with the Wikipedia link? --[[User:Rotanagol|Rotanagol]] 16:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::I tried, but it got removed as a "common name." I'm pretty sure it's not such in the US, at least outside of specific jewish communities, and even then I'd bet it's largely traceable to the Bathsheba refered to in the wiki link, but I'll let the wiki community decide, I guess. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.130|132.183.140.130]] 17:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::As for pronunciation, i'm neutral... it's could be a portmanteau between "beth" and "bathsheba", or just "bathsheba". that's not why i'm commenting. I'm commenting because it is certainly not a RWR, and probably isn't necessary as an explanation. I feel like it's a commonly enough KNOWN name, even if not many people HAVE it. But then again, i do come from one of those jewish-type communities the anonny mentioned, so i may have a bit of a skewed perception. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I for one, have never heard of such a name and live in a major city. It probably would be useful to explain what this is, or at least provide a wiki link in the transcript itself rather than a RWR. -[[Special:Contributions/24.118.94.73|24.118.94.73]] 06:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I suspect it's not so much a regional thing as a background thing: people of certain backgrounds, including Deffy's, are likely to be familiar with the [[Wikipedia:Bible|book]] in question (I'm familiar with the name, too, in large part because I'm from [[Wikipedia:Christianity|another background]] that tends to be familiar with that book). Of course, just for cultural reasons, many Westerners with a non-religious background also have some knowledge of these things, and I'm not sure if this is obscure enough to need explaining or if doing so is too much explaining the joke. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Also, we never link in the transcript. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:27, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I just created the real-world reference and removed it after finding this thread. I'm not saying it isn't a real world reference, and interestingly, when you do a search for bathsheba in wikipedia it links to the famous character in Judeo-Christian religion. I think Bathsheba is much more well known as a person than as a name, but that being said, it doesn't really illuminate much to put it as a rwr. [[Special:Contributions/71.92.222.251|71.92.222.251]]

== Moonwalking? ==

Is it just me, or does Senor Cardgage's walking in place look like a tribute to Michael Jackson's moonwalk move?

It's just you.--[[Special:Contributions/206.205.184.2|206.205.184.2]] 14:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Maybe if he had been walking backwards, but the way it was done, it seemed like it was just supposed to be some weird thing. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 14:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::That's what i thought of given recent events, but [[Best_Caper_Ever#Real-World_References|you can't really say they would do something like that]], can you? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Lappy 486 and Paper 2.0: Rest In Peace==
They killed off Lappy the same way they killed of Tandy, I wonder what new computer will replace it. Perhaps Strong Bad and Homestar will answer an email together. [[User:MICGAGUH]]
:Sorry, but stuff like this really belongs on the forum. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 14:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Kelly-usa? ==

This seems unlikely, but did anyone else think "Kelly-Usa" ("oosa") was a reference to Sailor Moon? There's a character named Chibi-Usa with the last part also pronounced "oosa." Being from a Japanese anime, it'd explain the "exotic lady from the Far East" comment. Reasons this is improbable: (1) -usa is not an honorific in Japan and was unique to the one character, making this reference pretty specific; (2) Chibi-Usa was a little girl, not an "exotic lady"; and (3) really, Sailor Moon?

If someone has an alternative explanation of SB's reaction, I'd like to see it.
:Actually, it's probably just an extention of the Homenadé joke made in [[Donut Unto Others]]. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== sbemail201 ==

Do you think this counts as sbemail201? Because if not, sbemail201.html will be the first official sbemail to not be located at "sbeamil{#}.html". {{User:The thing/sig}} 15:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, it counts (it's on the sbemail menu on the site), and [[flashback|no]], [[senior prom|it]] [[email thunder|won't]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:It counts, and it's not the first. [[senior prom]] was located at "kingpoptoon.html".
::There an echo in here? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User:Jay|''Jay'']] 17:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:::speaking of echoes, when he says, "Dear Strong Bad Strong Bad Strong Bad Strong Bad", that echo has happened in at least one e-mail before. is this notable? incidentally, the file is kotpoptoon.html, not kingpoptoon, but w/e {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::::and which email was it? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::that would be [[redesign]], although that one sounded natural, as opposed to strong bad just repeating his name quieter --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 05:42, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Name styles ==

This may need to be listed on the [[HRW:STYLES|manual of style]] or its talk page, but I just wanted to state somewhere that this toon should be referred to as [[hremail3184]] when listed as a Strong Bad Email and [[Hremail 3184]] when listed as a Hremail or when TBC list it as such. I think our usage to this point has been consistent with the guideline, but I figured it should at least be mentioned out loud. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:43, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:I was the one who originally moved the page from [[Hremail 3184]] to [[hremail3184]], and I wasn't sure if I should fix the pages listed in "What links here?" for the former article. I suppose that clears it up. [[User:Dalkaen|Dalkaen]] 04:29, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== scroll buttons ==

there is no scroll buttons song as of this sbemail

Yeah. We know. It's been stated on the page. {{User:BubbleRevolution/sig}} 18:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Hey, I did that! {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 09:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== takes, has, means... ==

So, at least three times in this email, the characters use the wrong word in a sentence. For example, SB says "I can't takes it no more", Coach Z says "... now I don't has to" and the Lappy asks, "does that means?" Are these mentionable? I think they are, in the same vein that "Be's careful" and "be's'ing mean..." were in previous emails... but how do we mention them in this email.... a little help? [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 21:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:"This email contains several instances of [[Deliberately Poor English]]." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Identical explosion marks? ==

I dunno if anyone else noticed, but the explosion mark at the end of this toon is the exact same vector shape that was used in the same spot back in 'virus', after Bubs shot the Compy.
:I did notice, but I wasn't sure if it was worth noting. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 05:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==32X Reference==

I did a basic edit about the Grilled mushrooms 32x reference, but since I'm new at this can some one perfect it?

==So popular lately==

Gas rings around explosions in pop culture probably started with the Star Wars Special Editions. Worth a Real World Reference?
:Unless you can make that "probably" into a "definitely", I'd say not. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, there are certainly earlier examples, notably in Star Treks II and VI, but the idea of adding a shock-wavey Saturn ring to make an explosion 'fancier' definitely starts with the SW SEs. Not that there's anything 'lately' about 1997, but SB probably doesn't have a DVD player yet. :)
:Meh, I think it's a bit [[TTATOT]]. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 05:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, SB's reference itself is rather broad ranging. It's not as if he is referencing a single source of the Saturn ring explosions, but actually the trend of having them. As such, one or two notable mentions might be worth making.

==PONK!==
Anyone else notice the name of the beer Bubs was drinking?--[[User:Robotguy4|Robotguy4]] 05:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:It is clearly "PONK!" Point? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::I think [http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/energydrink.htm this] is his point. It really seems like it's a ''[[Wikipedia:Team Fortress 2|Team Fortress 2]]'' reference (right down to Bubs mimicking the Scout's constant "BONK" proclamations); I just haven't added it in because the relationship isn't absolutely obvious. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:08, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Since you pointed it out, it's pretty obvious, but before you said anything, I wouldn't have even known about it. That, in my book, is plenty good reason to add it.
::::It has nothing to do with how obvious or not obvious it is and everything to do with whether or not it's actually referring to the thing in question. I don't think there's enough of a similarity to connect the two. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:32, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::I disagree. There seems to be plenty of parallels. And as for whether it's "actually referring to the thing in question," since when are you or any of the users on this Wiki actually inside the mind of TBC that you can know for certain what's a deliberate reference and what's not? We can only make such assessments based on external evidence, such as comparable similarities.
::::::Well, that's why we (used to) have STUFF... but anyway, in all honesty, I'm thinking of just adding it in and seeing where things go from there. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Likely it will get removed immediately. The way to go about it is to use this talk thread, not just put it on the page and see what happens. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:38, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::If it's a valid fact, it shouldn't get removed. Anyway, I'm on the fence.. I can see arguments both ways. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.135|128.103.10.135]] 23:29, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

==Other Info==

Is anyone planning on putting the writing from Strong Bad's newspaper and business card in the article? [[User:CloneWarrior|CloneWarrior]] 08:38, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:Bwees-ness card is a good idea, and we would all be grateful for the addition of it. Da NewsPapes, however, (and correct me if I'm wrong) says exactly the same thing it has in its other SB-on-da-toilet scenes, so it needs no transcription. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 12:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I checked the article for Candy Product, and the newspaper definitely has different text there. What other instances are there? [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 00:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Speech Impediment ==

Is it me, or does Homestar's Speech Impediment is kinda missing at the beginning of the hremail?--{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 08:54, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== traffic ==

Do the sounds of traffic during Senor Cardgage's part sound like the traffic in his part during the FBI Warning on strongbad_email.exe Disc Six? -Logged Out Open Source Greg
:It sounds like it might be the same, but that's a note for [[Sound Effects]]. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 12:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== No Broken Lappy Menu? ==

I think this is the first sbemail where a computer explodes and there is no special menu for the broken computer, like after the tandy and the compy. I can't remember if those came in right away, or a few days later. [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 14:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:I believe there's been a gap in between the destruction of the computer and the broken menu. The dates on [[virus]] and [[Broken Compy Menu]] back that up. It's probably done that way to avoid spoiling the surprise of the destruction. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Magnificent Marzipan ==

* The Magnificent Marzipan is a nod to [[Wikipedia:Sensational_Sherri|Sensational Sherri]] and/or [[Wikipedia:Don_Muraco|The Magnificent Muraco]].

What evidence is there to support this claim aside from the alliteration? This seems extremely weak to me. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 20:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:I agree. There are tons of alliterative titles like this. Without commentary confirmation, this is...augh! I don't wanna say it! TTATOT. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 00:00, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== Already prepared to explode the lappy? ==

I put a fact on the page, but it got removed as unnotable, so I wanted to mention it here. Does no one else find it inconsistent that, although Strong Bad had just now (as of this email) been asked about explosions, he had bought the dooj button (in preparation of exploding the lappy) several weeks ago? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.130|132.183.140.130]] 22:49, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know about that, but I think a Remark should be made about the button not being plugged into the Lappy until SB points it out. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 23:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well, it seems notable to me. Like all the <s>crap</s> very interesting fun facts that we put in. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 23:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::The way i see it, this email is basically SB telling about how he regularly splo's stuff up, at least as often as he breathes air molecules, so for him to plan to blow up the lappy even before recieving the question is VERY consistant with this email. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Ghost Lappy ==

The (demonic) shadow of Female Lappy in the explosion feels like a reference to the ghosts of the Tandy (Bad Graphics) and Compy (skeleton), but I'm not sure how (or if) to put this into an Inside Reference or Remark. Thoughts? {{User:Itama/sig}} 00:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Remarks, that's where I think you should put it. [[User:MICGAGUH]]
::No, you should put it in Inside References. --[[User:Particleman24|Particleman24]] 22:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== Usa, Japan ==

<blockquote>* Strong Bad's remark that Kelly-Usa sounds exotic is a reference to the [http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/usa.asp urban legend] about Japan renaming a town Usa.</blockquote>

This doesn't seem quite right to me. In this case he is interpreting Usa as Kelly's last name, and I don't think it really stands on it's own as a reference specifically to that urban legend. The only thing that stopped me from removing it is the fact that they have referred to the urban legend before, and somewhat recently, but even that relies on either being a close follower of the TBC's work or making a priori connections in order to be considered a reference to the urban legend in my mind. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 12:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I really don't think this enough for a reference, because 1)I don't think they'd reference an urban legend TWICE within about two months, and 2)It's just SB pronouncing an abbreviation as a word. 3)He doesn't even mention Japan. The word "usa" would probably not be enough for a reference alone. Just my opinion. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 13:02, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I disagree with both of you. It is a fairly commonly known urban legend, and I see no reason to suppose that TBC wouldn't be referencing it. Otherwise, we have to ask the question: why would SB call attention to it unless there was some sort of humorous connection to be made, apart from the mere sound of the word?
::Because the "humorous connection" was the fact that he read Usa as her last name instead of her country. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 07:01, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== 32x Reference? ==

When strongbad introduces the chili dog, the grilled mushrooms logo says 32x. I think this is a reference to the 32x add-on for the Sega genesis, as well as the fact that its somewhat shaped like a mushroom.

==Paper 2.0 in Cast?==

I started to think that the Paper 2.0 should be mentioned in the cast section, but I'm not sure if that can be counted here. Thoughts?
:Well, we don't know what paper it was, and either way, we don't list the Paper (or any pseudocharacter) in the cast under normal circumstances anyway. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:14, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
A separate question, I see many times mentioned that we don't know it was New Paper. Why not? Don't we know that the (old) Paper got burned up by a spark from Homestar's Computer when SB poured the MD on it? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.86|132.183.138.86]] 21:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:However, the old paper did return in Sb_mail 200, and it was previously burned, so it is possible that it could come back from the dead... That, or since it "trancends time and space" it could have time travelled some how...--[[User:Robotguy4|Robotguy4]] 07:38, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
::Ok, in order to prevent edit wars from erupting all over the wiki, I wish to get this vital paper business sorted out once and for all.
::First of all, let us state what we already know:
::#[[The Paper]] dies for the first time in [[the paper]].
::#[[New Paper]] is beaten up by The Paper, which briefly comes back from the dead before dying a second time in [[email thunder]].
::#An unnamed paper dies in [[hremail3184]].
::#[[Virtual Paper]] takes over from [[independent]] onwards. Both The Paper and New Paper have now been written out.
::Now, let us assume first that it was The Paper who dies in hremail3184. That would mean it would have died in two successive emails, and three times in total. Do you think that's likely? Would TBC have gone through the effort of killing off The Paper a second time, then secretly bringing it back to life yet again without telling us, just so they could kill it off a third time? And what of New Paper? Why doesn't it come back in independent? Does it die from The Paper's attack in email thunder or does it just go away forever?
::If, however, we assume that it was New Paper that dies in hremail3184, then things get a lot more straightforward. The Paper dies (again) in email thunder and then New Paper dies in the following email. Thus, I'd say the most simple explanation is most likely ([[Wikipedia:Occam's razor|Occam's razor]]) and that it was New Paper that died in hremail3184. I know some of you may dismiss this as speculation but we need to come to some form of general consensus as to what happened at the end of this email. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:04, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:::The humor in that gag IS that very ambiguity. The point is that you don't know which one it is, and that it could have been and was most likely both. To speculate about it is to defeat the joke. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Isn't that very ambiguity exactly the reason why we need discuss the events at the end of this email in the first place? I don't see why we shouldn't discuss what happened in case we defeat the joke. There are certain articles on this wiki (e.g. [[Envelope Paper]], [[Virtual Paper]]) where it is necessary to state which paper died in this email, which is why I feel this is a big issue. I stick with my argument; although we don't know which paper died here, we can work it out using a process of elimination. There have been two papers which have died. If The Paper clearly died in email thunder, then New Paper must have died in the following email (and if they both died, that still means that New Paper died in this email). {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::No, that very ambiguity is the reason that any such discussion is speculation, and UNNEEDED speculation at that. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::I would argue that it's not speculation, but inference. (and REASONABLE inference at that). -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.119|132.183.151.119]] 20:06, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== I can't BELIEVE nobody picked this up. ==

Strong Sad's scene with the Pop Tart is a dual reference. It just SCREAMS [[Wikipedia:James Bond]] and [[Wikipedia: Die Hard With a Vengeance]]
:I can see what you mean. If you're able to word it understandably, feel free to add it to references. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.86|132.183.138.86]] 21:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::Why is no one doing it yet? --[[Special:Contributions/69.19.14.29|69.19.14.29]] 02:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::And doesn't the Pop-Tart look more like a Pillsbury Toaster Strudel? --[[Special:Contributions/69.19.14.31|69.19.14.31]] 14:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Possible Popeye reference? ==

Anyone else think that part of Strongbad's opening line "I can't takes it no mores!" is a reference to Popeye, who frequently said "I've all I can stands, and I can't stands no mores!"?
:It's reminiscent, but not concrete enough to be notable, I think. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.162|132.183.138.162]] 17:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== Place ya bets! ==

What do you think Strongbad's new computer will be like? What about his new paper?--[[User:Metaphoricallycrazy|M.Crazy]] | [[User talk:Metaphoricallycrazy|Talk]] 17:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
:I think it will be like something that would be better discussed at the forum. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Can I fight them instead? ==

Is there any signifgence about Andy Kaufman (the half women/half man champion) that would make Strong Sad say this line? Like, he could be saying he thinks Andy is weak. Or is it just a regular whiny quip? I ask this so I can put it in the real-world reference. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 19:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

== Rake ==

It should be noted that the rake that Strongbad hits Homestar with isn't the same rake that Gardenboy holds in the sbemail "Yes, Wrestling".

== What we need is an image overhaul. ==

The image we use doesn't seem to sum up the email. I was thinking more along the lines of the blast-wavey saturn-ring explosion, but before the Lappy appears so not to ruin the surprise. The image of that existed at one point. Should we change it and, if so, where is the image now? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 16:45, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:That image was probably put there to avoid spoilers or something. We should probably change it. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 16:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::[[:File:lappysplosion.PNG|Is this the image you were talking about?]] {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 16:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree that we need to change the summary-image. We advertise it enough as a Strong Bad Email to make the current image a last-ditch effort to hide anything. Yet, the explosion itself is a bit of a spoiler. A picture of the Steak Sandwich would be a bit more fitting. --[[Special:Contributions/76.224.216.122|76.224.216.122]] 17:03, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::::The steak sandwhich, too, is a one-off-joke-style image. Besides, the exlposion doesn't show the Lappy, so it is anyone's guess what is happening. It doesn't spoil much, or anything really.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 17:26, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Disputed fact ==

I added the following to the remarks section:
*The montage of Strong Bad's computers exploding does not feature the explosion from [[Biz Cas Fri 3]].
and it was removed by another user, with the explanation "it's puppet stuff and would look out of place". Now I know I'm a bit biased because I was the one who wrote it, and I'm not on here very often so I'm probably not as familiar as others with how this place works, but I don't think that's a good enough reason to hard-delete the fact. I think even though there's an explanation for it, it's still notable, since as far as I can remember it's the only computer explosion not included in the scene. What do you guys think? -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 21:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

PS sorry if I come across as doing this just because I'm upset because my fact got deleted, That's probably a factor, but I also wanted to make sure this was handled the right way. -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 21:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:Strong Bad said that the explosions came from his 'very own computers', the computer used in Biz Cas Fri wasn't a computer he used, just one he owned or checked legit emails on. That could be a reason they didn't put it in. --[[User:SallyShally|SallyShally]] 00:45, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
::Also, because it's and not from a [[sbemail]], which all the rest are from. And it's puppet Strong Bad, not the real one. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 00:47, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I find it funny that the puppets, which used an actual computer in their toons, are in contrast to the "real" toons, which use an animated computer... {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:21, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== I've been here for years ==

:''Homestar's repeating the phrase "Don't call it a comeback", is a reference to the first line of "[[WIkipedia:Mama Said Knock You Out (song)|Mama Said Knock You Out]]" by [[Wikipedia:LL Cool J|LL Cool J]].''
I'm not so sure. First of all, yes, both have the same five words, but the context is so different that I think it could just be a coincidence. In the song, we're told "don't call it a comeback" because he's trying to say that he never left. In the email, Strong Bad ''does'' call it a comeback because there was in fact long hiatus, and he has no problem calling it that. I don't know why Homestar doesn't want Strong Bad to call it a comeback. Maybe he thinks calling anything a comeback is lame. Maybe he doesn't want Strong Bad to make a comeback so that he, Homestar, can continue his own email show with no competition. In any case, without a mention of rap or a nod to the fact that Strong Bad's been here for years, I think it's just literal words, not a reference. If for some reason the joke were rephrased as "I." "Don't say you love grapes." "Love." "Don't say you love grapes." "Grapes!" "*sigh*", it would be exactly the same joke to me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed. I always understood it as Homestar wanting to continue being the email show guy. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:40, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

::I think it could be a reference. I immediately thought of the song when I saw the toon and came here to check if the reference was already in place. I don't think because the toon doesn't reference rap or being around for years that doesn't mean those five words can't mention a rap song. For instance, these four recent news articles
::# [http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jul2009/tc20090730_553952.htm Motorola: Don't Call It a Comeback—Yet]
::# [http://industry.bnet.com/pharma/10003346/amgen-q2-dont-call-it-a-comeback-call-it-a-growth-story-in-more-ways-than-d-mab/ Amgen Q2: Don't Call It a Comeback, Call it a Growth Story (In More Ways Than D-Mab)]
::# [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124880772148587627.html Don't Call It a Comeback? CMBS Re-Emerge]
::# [http://www.idahostatesman.com/business/story/837643.html Don't call it a comeback: Used SUVs rebound]
::have those five words in their titles and have nothing to do with rap songs and don't mention being here for years, but I still think they're referencing the song while talking about comebacks in other fields (finance, automobiles, cartoon emails, etc.) -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::What also helps sell it as a reference is the rhythm of the words ("Don't ''call'' it a ''come''back") is same in both how Homestar says it and in the song. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:27, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
::::that doesn't mean anything. that's just how "don't call it a comeback" would normally be emphasized if you're trying to say it fast. If you're not trying to say it fast, there would also be an emphasis on "don't", but all the others would be the same. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 22:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

== Greasemonkey ==

I'm not sure if this is the right place to mention it, but I thought I should...mention it. The arrows that appear in the bottom corners of the screen when you view sbemails with [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Phlip's Greasemonkey script]] seem to omit hremail3184, instead leading to "sbemail201.html", a 404'd page. It's not a big problem, but probably worth fixing. I'd fix it if I could (or had any idea how to). [[User:Omnisweater|Omnisweater]] 22:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:The latest version of the script already handles this. If you have update-checking turned on in the preferences, it should automatically tell you that there's an update... if it's turned off (or not working for some reason) then try {{p|l={{FULLURL:User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&fakeextension=.user.js}} reinstalling it}}. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:08, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks. [[User:Omnisweater|Omnisweater]] 04:46, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== Said WHAT like "ptoo"? ==

I hear "Said a-like", not "Said it like". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:27, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:Said a-like. definitely. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 05:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== Dooj! ==

How does it come that the button [[Strong Bad]] presses says "Dooj", and where did [[The Brothers Chaps]] get the word "Dooj" from? --[[Special:Contributions/83.188.255.201|83.188.255.201]] 09:53, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:From the [[Onomatopoeia]] page, it originates from [[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]]. There is a Fun Fact for it in the Inside References section. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 15:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

==Internet?==

Should the goofs say that, when we see the back of the closed lappy, it is NOT plugged into the Internet, but Strong Bad can still check his email? I'm pretty sure the Lappy doesn't have wireless capability...

[[User:Snails4you|Snails4you]] 18:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
: He was able to check emails from Marzipan's kitchen while the Lappy wasn't plugged in. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== I'd like a trip to the Oosa ==

I'm not sure on the possibility of it, but do you think USA as Oosa is a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fonejacker Fonejacker] character Mr. Dooved who always pronounces acronyms and abbreviation as they are spelled? In one episode he said that he wanted to fly to the '''Oosa''' talking about the USA. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 02:58, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:I doubt it. It's a pretty common [[snopes:business/genius/usa.asp|concept]]/joke. In fact, I saw something similar just four days ago on 30 Rock. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:07, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

== Callback to April Fool 09? ==

Having just watched [[April Fool 09]] for the first time in a while, the use of "cleary" as a misspelled "clearly" in that toon made me wonder if Cardgage's "Beverly Clearly" here could be a subtle callback to that toon. '''''[[user:Kyojikasshu|kyojikasshu]]''''' 06:57, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

== Tandy 400 contrast ==

If you have Greasemonkey(or a Flash decompiler) and pause right before the Tandy 400 explodes, you can click the contrast buttons. --[[Special:Contributions/83.240.82.223|83.240.82.223]] 18:36, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

== Because someone didn't believe me ==

Here's a link http://snltranscripts.jt.org/05/lostfound80s6.phtml go ahead and hit ctrl-f "the nude" and see how unusual and distinctive this line was, and how it is almost certainly a quote being referenced.

:It is irrelevant whether this phrase originated there. According to a simple Google search it is now in common use. There is no allusion to SNL in the hremail, so there is absolutely no reason to assume that this is a direct reference. Please refrain from putting this back in as a fact.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:36, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Talk:hremail 3184

Loafing — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 02:36:18 GMT

Loafing: /* Because someone didn't believe me */ Because you can't prove you're right

Crazy Go Nuts University

Loafing — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:50:56 GMT

Loafing: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ad+valorem

{{about|university}} {{for|email|CGNU}}
[[Image:Sbemail178 screenshot.PNG|thumb|left|A stately tower rises over the campus of CGNU.]]
{| class="toccolours" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; width: 20em; font-size: 90%;" cellspacing="3"
|-
| colspan="2" style="text-align: center; font-size: larger;" | '''Crazy Go Nuts University'''
|-
| colspan="2" style="padding: 1em 0; text-align: center;" | [[Image:CGNU Crest.png|220px]]
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|'''Motto'''
|style="padding-right: 1em;" | The future is you... probably.
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|'''Established'''
|style="padding-right: 1em;" | Unknown
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|'''School type'''
|style="padding-right: 1em;" | Private
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|'''Chancellor'''
|style="padding-right: 1em;" | Unknown
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|'''Prinicpal'''
|style="padding-right: 1em;" | [[Strong Bad]]
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|'''Enrollment'''
|style="padding-right: 1em;" | Unknown
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|'''Campus surroundings'''
|style="padding-right: 1em;" | Field and Fence
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|'''Sports Teams'''
|style="padding-right: 1em;" | CGNU Golf Club Team
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|'''Mascot'''
|style="padding-right: 1em;" | [[The Jolly Dumple]]
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|'''Campus Radio Station'''
|style="padding-right: 1em;" | [[Radio Stations and Shows#WSBD|89.3 WSBD-The Voice of CGNU]]
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|'''Online site'''
|style="padding-right: 1em;" | <nowiki>http://cgnuonline-eniversity.edu</nowiki>
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|'''Website motto'''
|style="padding-right: 1em;" | Banner ad valorum
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|}

'''[[Crazy Go Nuts]] University''' is a [[School|university]] created and run by [[Strong Bad]]. To attend CGNU, applicants must send in the free art test consisting of drawing a [[Painting of a Guy with a Big Knife|guy with a big knife]]. Actual applicants are not accepted, however, and the art test is only so Strong Bad can make fun of the person who took it. According to Strong Bad, "A diploma from Crazy Go Nuts University will be pretty impressive on your wall, and all your friends will be pretty impressed." The only known room in CGNU is the [[CGNU Prinicpal's Office|prinicpal's office]]. They offer an assortment of courses online, which require only four clicks to get a "shady online degree". The CGNU website doesn't actually exist, since .edu addresses are only available to actual educational institutions.

In [[On Break]], Homestar (as the Jolly Dumple) orients the freshmen. In his song, he mentions that the financial aid office is closed on Tuesdays, and advises students to avoid the beef stroganoff in the dining hall.

In [[Fan Costumes '08]], Strong Bad admitted that the university was fake and that he hasn't actually started it yet.

==Courses offered==
===On Campus===
Strong Bad offers a wide variety of courses taught at CGNU, including:

*[[Cheesed Off|Cheesing People Off]]
*Indian-Giving
*Cutting Ones
*Doing Some Other Things
*Home Invasion
*Cracking Wise
*World Domination
*Sending Me a Dollar
*[[Total]] Spaceship Guy
*TV / VCR Repair
*Get your Degree!

===Online===
Many courses are offered online, including:

*Business Administration
*Business Abomination
*Mousepad Engineer
*Infotainment Technology
*e-Cutting Ones
*The Lighter Side of Sports
*Matt's Communications
*Business Wheeling
*Insider Trading
*Computer Graphs
*Bidness Dealing
*Caps Lock Technician
*Escrow Understandment
*Marriage [[Apothecary]]

==The Golf Club Team==
The CGNU Golf Club Team has a game every day at 6pm. So far the only known teams they have played are Pile of Electronics State, [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]'s Knees Tech, and DeBry. According to Strong Bad, the CGNU team is undefeated. Their fight song lyrics are reprinted here.

''Fighting, and sometimes striving,'' 
''Wondering what the Dumple is.'' 
''Excellence, and what is valor?'' 
''And the Cheat will hit stuff with a golf club!''

''C! G! N! . . . U!''

"(See-Gee-IN-YOU!) (me?)"

==Appearances==

*[[Homestar Quiz]]
*Email [[CGNU]]
*Email [[theme party]] (Easter egg)
*Email [[mascot]]
*Email [[different town]] (scoreboard)
*Email [[radio]]
*Email [[candy product]] (scoreboard)
*Email [[theme song]]
*Email [[4 branches]] (Jolly Dumple costume)
*Email [[bike thief]] (campus)
*[[On Break]] (campus)

[[Category:Places]][[Category:Companies]][[Category:Schools]]

==Trivia==

*"Ad valorem" is Latin for "(according) to value".

Talk:the chair

Loafing — Thu, 16 May 2013 07:48:45 GMT

Loafing: /* What's going on here? */ i can't hear it

== Decompiling ==

Can somebody decompile the flash file to see if there is anything actually hidden in the picture or when Strong Bad takes off his mask? It seems like something TBC might put into the flash as a "super secret easter egg". -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 21:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

:Way ahead of ya! [[Image:Dodongo.png|150px|nice try, dodongo!]]--[[User:Echeese|Echeese]] 22:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
::We's already done. The picture is blank, and here's his face without the chair there: [http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/3518/muhfacehe2.png] (courtesy of The Mu). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I'm not as computer-smart as you guys are, so can someone explain how you do that?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::You'd want a program like [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler]. Mind that it isn't free, but there may be free alternatives out there. --[[User:205.251.60.126|205.251.60.126]] 17:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Heck, Eltima's IS a free trial, and that's the one I use. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::See, that's what I get for not reading more closely. Mea culpa. --[[User:205.251.60.126|205.251.60.126]] 19:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that this would be more appropriate under Trivia than as an Easter Egg, since it's not readily viewable--it has to be decompiled to see it. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 22:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I have a question. What does this have to do with SB's parents? [[User:RocketMasterZ|RocketMasterZ]] 12:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

:TBC are lightheartedly teasing those of us who immediately ran to a Flash decompiler as soon as we saw the toon so that we could post a picture of Strong Bad's parents on the internet. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Easter eggs are things you can click on during the email. This isn't one. There's even another decompiler related thing down in trivia, so why isn't this there? [[User:EASports|EASports]] 14:54, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

:From [http://www.dictionary.com dictionary.com]: "Easter Egg: 2. A hidden feature in computer software, a DVD, or a video game." An Easter egg doesn't necessarily involve clicking. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 14:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
::I was referring to the usage of the term here. This is, as far as I know, the only thing listed as an Easter egg on any page of this wiki that requires the use of a separate program to find it. [[User:EASports|EASports]] 14:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
:::I can see EA's point, there are other various instances of similar "hidden information" that we have considered nothing more than "Flash Artifacts." But with that said, this is pretty much the same as [[Senorial Day]] and the 2 Homestars, only difference being that instead of using an external viewer for the flash file, someone is using a decompiler. It's a close call as to how to handle it, but I think by definition, and by precedence, it's an Easter egg. - {{User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C/Sig}} 15:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
::::This is a pretty broad definition, but I think an Easter Egg is anything in the toon that is a least partially obscured (purposefully) by TBC with the intention of someone finding it. This one awas just hidden better. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:46, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::Another one kinda like this one is Marzi's rocker hair in [[different town]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Danube Largo? ==

I was going to say this is a reference to the Danube river, but then I realized it's probably also a parody of a real person's name. So I'm waiting to see if anyone else has dirt on this. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 22:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:Not of any furniture designer that I'm aware of. I don't think it's a reference to the river so much as to the trend towards nature-related names, such as River, Skye, or Willow.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 01:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::Wasn't Largo the villain in Thunderbird? (007 movie, for those of you wondering) Could that be a possible reference? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Thunderb''all'' is the Bond flick. Thunderb''ird'' is a car. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 11:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

:::''Largo'' is Italian for "slow". But that has little relevance to its usage here. I think it's likely just something they put together to sound foreign. I don't see a reason to think into it any deeper than that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Actually, [[Wikipedia:Largo|Largo]] is a common word. It STILL may be a reference. Just suggesting it. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
An die Schöne Blaue Donau is a world-famous waltz, known in English as "The Blue Danube Waltz," or "The Blue Danube," or "The Danube Waltz." Waltz can be a musical designation, as can Largo. So, "Danube Largo" is a riff on "Danube Waltz," although I doubt that TBC put as much thought into it as I just did. Did either of the Chap brothers study music at some point? -- Unregistered User, M Valdemar.
:::::Actually, there are a few waltzes with "Danube" in the name. And "Largo" is pretty generic. I don't think this needs to necessarily refer to music in any way. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Still seems more like TTATOT than references to me, though.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 22:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

would the name have anything to do with it being daNOOB largo?

:This was STUFFed and voted on: [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/the chair#Teh n00b Largo?]] {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

== Leather ==

I'm thinking that the leather is not "Chairybdian" but is in fact "Corinthian" parodying Ricardo Montalbon and his rather (unintentionally) silly ads for Chrysler in the 80's. But maybe I'm just hearing things.
: I hear Corinthian.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 01:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== 3 years pre-owned ==

This could just be me and my tendency to mishear things, but does it sound to anyone else like Bubs is saying it's a PRE-OWNED box of chicken beaks, rather than a 3-year-old box of chicken beaks? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:I hear it as 'pre-owned'. [[User:Cara Carabowditbowdit|Cara Carabowditbowdit]] 23:11, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
::I also hear pre-owned. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::I hear pre-owned, too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 01:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::::I put this bit on my user page before it was transcribed, and "pre-owned" is what I heard. Still do. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::I wrote the transcript here and heard "3 year old" the first time, but after listening a few more times I realized Bubs did in fact say "pre-owned". I kept trying to change the transcript to match but I kept getting Edit Conflict! ARGH!! Anyways, yes; he does indeed say pre-owned. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:33, 5 December 2006

== Buzzer sound ==

It's the same buzzer sound as the old "deleted" buzzer. "Remarks"? "Inside references"? Is it even wiki-worthy? [[User:Tbone762|Tbone762]] 23:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:Nope. It's just a [[Sound Effects|sound effect]]. You should list it there, though, if it's not already. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:06, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::I compared the two, and from what I can tell, it's definitely the DELETED buzzer. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 03:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, it's unlikely that TBC would have two sound effects for one purpose. If this gets listed, so should [[retirement]], [[mascot]], and [[Homestarrunner.com Pay Plus]]. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

== melon-chair ==

Is the stool supposed to be the same face as the cantelope he stole from Marzipan?
:You mean [[Doreauxgard]]? I don't really think so. The chair doesn't bear much of a resmblance to him. {{User:Spyrox6/sig}}
:i thought the same thing. it's VERY similar...if not almost exactly the same
::I compared the picture in the article to the face on the chair, and they're almost identical, except for the forehead wrinkles.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 22:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::There's some resemblance to the [[Sticky Notes|sticky note]] Strong Bad stuck up on his monitor in [[vacation]] - the one that calls you a dork. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Perchance this is because of how SB draws faces on inanimate talking objects? Sheesh. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
:::::Except that SB didn't draw the face on the chair.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 04:50, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

== This is the one where Scratchy finally gets Itchy! ==

The way Strong Bad says he will never take off his mask again reminds me of a [http://www.snpp.com/episodes/1F02.html Simpsons episode] where Scratchy ''finally'' gets the better of Itchy instead of vice versa in one of their episodes. The TV gets unplugged as Bart and Lisa are watching, and they end up missing it. When the TV gets plugged back in, Krusty says, "Wow! They'll never let us show that again, not in a million years!" — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
: It does seem similar in a kinda this-is-not-a-referencey sort of way. :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::I saw that one as well, and I don't think there's a notable similarity at all. The "now that you can't see it, I'll finally reveal all the secrets" gag is an old one.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Quite. Which is why I posted it here and not in the fun facts. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::::The first thing that came to my mind in this was Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget - part of the gag with him is that all you ever see is his big metal hand, but never any other part of him. (Though this is refuted somewhat by the fact that the official Gadget intro shows Gadget flipping the chair around, and it's just a spring-loaded hand and a bomb on the chair.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::That's not a refutation, it was just an episode where Gadget thought he had finally caught Dr. Claw, but alas, he wasn't there. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::In the Fat Albert movie, the one who wears the hat over his face first takes it off revealing nothing but his eyes and mouth. Similar. {{User:Neox/sig}}
i don't see much of a difference

== Chickenella ==

Just wondering since I suspect it'd be removed or STUFFed: How notable is it that Strong Bad probably meant Salmonella, which is commonly associated with chicken, rather than the mammal-specific Anthrax? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
*meh, i did notice that also, but it is much too much ttatot. also i love the ethical tag. its funny. {{User:Csours/sig}} 01:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
**I think this would be notable if Strong Bad had said something like "I don't wanna get chickenella from that mish-mash" or something like that. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:47, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

== Ecochair != Tempurpedic ==

So someone put up a reference saying the ecochair was a reference to tempurpedic mattresses. I don't get how this could possibly be. That chair is NOTHING like a mattress. I figured it was a fairly vague reference to IKEA furniture, personally.

Yeah, that person's crazy. If my changes weren't universally overridden, I'd change it myself... but i want this to be changed, so i won't change it --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 00:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

:And that would be me! Forgive, for I should've ran this through the discussion thing before I went ahead and made such a bold statement! I figured the Ecochair made a bit of a reference to Tempur-pedic and other such styles of furniture, with their questionable designs made from questionable materials! After re-rewatching the email, it would appear that the ecochair does not, in fact, use crazy memory foam to shape itself to the user! Such a reference is quite a bad decision. --[[User:The only known copy of the failed pilot episode of the Limozeen Saturday morning cartoon show|Crazy Person]]

I'd actually say that chair is more like those crazy chairs designed to fix bad posture. --[[User:Xifihas|Xifihas]]

== Anthraxy ==

Anyone else think that Winger is less anthraxy, not because of the disease anthrax, but because Winger is not like the band Anthrax, thus they are less Anthraxy? --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 01:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, it seemed like a bit of word-play to me.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 01:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::That seems extremely likely to me. Winger and Anthrax both thrived in the late '80s, which is a particularly common era for TBC to reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Incidentally, wasn't Winger referenced in [[death metal]]? -{{User:YK/sig}} 04:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't particularly care whether we list the links to Anthrax (both kinds) and Winger in Explanations or Real-World References, but we ''don't'' need to spell out the above joke. The links are enough. Let the viewer put together the humor. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:Well, at least someone spelled it out here, coz I'd never get it otherwise. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It seems like some kind of reference--spelling it out or not--would be good. I'm not up to date on that kind of music anymore, but it seems likely that there will be a good number of people who won't have heard of Anthrax, 20 years after their heyday (ouch!).--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 22:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::Ok, i be'd bold and put it under explanation. i'm sure someone will pull it by tomorrow anyway, but that may just be my HRCynicism speaking. It seems like the kind of thing that should be mentioned - the specific reference to Anthrax the band, differentiating it from the earlier reference to anthrax, the disease. And two people said here that it should be listed, that and i came up with it originally, so there, its posted and thats why. --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
:::This is one of those jokes that while I don't normally like spelling out, we do need to somewhere (maybe in real world references) help those who may not have been exposed to either band put it together. Which after another rereading I think will work as is . . . - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
::::As I have already said above, there have been and continue to be links to the Wikipedia articles about Anthrax and Winger already listed in the real-world references. They're even listed right next to each other. All someone has to do is click the links. It would be a bad thing, however, to start making a habit of saying "this is the joke and here's why it's funny." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree. Not only would that be unencyclopediac, but we would end up going crazy with ''rules'' to ''govern'' that sort of thing. Which jokes do we list? Which ones are too obvious to do so? Our talk pages would be pages full of forum-style posts. No, our fun facts section is far better off without an "Oh, by the way, this is a joke." section. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 19:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
:Can we atleast agree that the second Anthrax-y should be with a capital A, because he is referring to the band Anthrax, not the disease anthrax? --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 00:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
::Sure, why not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Hurray for compromise! --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 09:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I'd say it is both a reference to the disease Anthrax and the (awexome) thrash band Anthrax (who ar estill aliuve and kicking the Cheats, BTW.) --[[User:74.129.217.164|74.129.217.164]] 13:39, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

==Truely==
Is Strong Bad's pronouciation of of the misspelled truely, a reference to his pronounciation of truuly in [[modeling]]? How similar are the two?[[User:68.239.209.107|68.239.209.107]] 03:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

:I don't think so: Strong Bad's pronunciation of "truuly" put much more emphasis on the extra letter than did his pronunciation of "truely". They're only similar because they're both responses to mispellings of the same word. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

==Hey, it's Tiptup!==
Bubs says both 'Tip' and 'tup', which are parts of the name 'Tiptup', who is a turtle racer in the game Diddy Kong Racing. At least, I think so.--[[User:147.133.207.186|147.133.207.186]] 05:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:"Tip top" is a colloquialism that means "the very top"... and it's a mix-up of "Start at the bottom, and work our way to the top." That "top" is pronounced as "tup" is probably just Bubs being strange. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::Tiptup the Turtle was the first thing I thought of too, but I think it's just Bubs being random. He does seem to be acting kind of strange in this email :) {{User:Saturn/sig}} 07:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::: I tink it might be worth mentioning. Tiptup also appeared in both Banjo-Kazooie games, and the brothers Chaps are Nintendo fans. Tiptup the turtle was what I first thought of, but I have been replaying those games recently though.-anon
I agree it could be Tiptup, because the way Bubs says it. Earlier in the email, there was the 'Duh to the ear' thing. It could be Bubs' strange way of saying 'Tip to the Tup'. Though, personally, the first thing I thought of was "from the tip the ''top'', only Bubs just being weird for saying tup. - Sb100
:Craba''DONK!!1!'' {{User:Neox/sig}}
::I say it is a reference. Yes the original phrase is tip top, which is why i think they modified it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:13, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

==SB's Parents==
Just wanted to say that I sent an email to SB last week asking how his parents looked like, kind of surprised to see at least part of it being used. Guess my pronounciation was too good to become an actual e-mail ;) Eitherway, you can never be sure that it actually originated from my e-mail. I'm pretty sure loads of people have sent in the same question. It's just that I find it kind of funny to actually get some kind of an answer :)

Yeah, I think that question had probably been asked quite a bit. The one time I sent SB an email (which was a couple years ago) part of it inquired about his parents. The rest suggested his he and his brothers might all be adopted, since they bear no resemblance to each other.

:Pronunciation? Was it audio email? Has Strong Bad done audio email before? - anonymous

::Uhhh... yeah... hence the sound every week. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

:::I've never heard audio from people mailing in. Where do you find it? It would seem like making fun of users' pronunciation should be more highly publicized, like in mail sbemail. - anonymous

On another note: the photo of SB's parents is ONLY viewable if you have specialized software. So why in the world are we calling it an Easter egg? In my mind, Easter eggs are user-interactable things which yield special content. While "nice try" is simewhat special, the fact that it is not accessible to the viewer deems it, in my book, not an Easter egg but a Trivia item. As there seems to be some degree of dupport for it being an egg, I won't alter the article without discussion. How can something which can only be seen by using a flash decompiler be set as eqivalent to the Easter eggs we commonly see in the toons? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:Other examples: SB's signature in [[myths & legends]], Marzi's hair in [[different town]]... This is a different definition of Easter egg than the one we normally use, but it still counts. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Well, if it's precedent we should either keep it all or dump it all, but it feels wrong to me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, how do I get the email into Flash Decompiler anyways? -{{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 13:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

== Parts? ==

Does that refer to the same thing that The Ugly One's intro in Issue 2 refers to? EEEEEWWW!! I wouldn't think they'd make deezguzzteeng hints to dat. EEEEWW!! --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:Psoriasis? I see no connection here, unless I'm just rather thick right now. (I ''am'' pulling an all-nighter just so I can't oversleep and miss class and it's 5:30.) {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 11:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::Psoriasis is skin condition. Parts, well let's just say I don't quite think about skin conditions when I hear guys say the words "my parts." :P --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

== Hate? ==

I don't hear "Hate, hate, hate this email", I hear "Hey, hey, hey, it's email." Anyone else agree? -- [[User:4.244.214.55|4.244.214.55]] 12:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:Yes. The Hate vs. Hey is hard to distinguish, but "it's" is a give-away. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 14:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== Treatment of Chickens ==

I noticed [It's dot com] deleted a comment I added to the Fun Facts section of "the chair". Please look [[wikipedia:Chicken|it]] up. This is a direct quote:
"Domestic chickens are typically fed commercially prepared feed that includes a protein source as well as grains. Chickens often scratch at the soil to get at adult insects and larvae or seed. Incidents of cannibalism can occur when a curious bird pecks at a preexisting wound or during fighting (even among female birds). This is exacerbated in close quarters. In commercial egg and meat production this is controlled by trimming the beak (removal of ⅔ of the top half and occasionally ⅓ of the lower half of the beak)."
This most likely explains the "ethical" label on Bubs box of Chick'n beaks
:I think that is a major stretch. If you want, you can create an account and STUFF it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:: For what it's worth, we're talking about cruelty to animals in Ethics class this week, and the chicken beak cutting off is the first thing I thought of when I saw that box. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::I just assumed it was humorous--Bubs selling something "Ethical" brand--him being so ethical and all! --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 22:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
: I see what you're saying, and I'd hate it if i had a point that good and it was disagreed with, but i hafta disagree. Its not strong enough to be listed on the main page. Its a big stretch to call removing most of a chicken's beak for any reason ethical. --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

: I don't mind if people disagree, I just wish there was something to argue about. "Ethical" is an ironic label for a case of chicken beaks, because it seems to me (maybe I'm wrong here) unethical to remove chicken beaks just because you make more money selling them if you raise them packed closely together. The other possibility is that my source is completely off base. Wikipedia is not exactly the best source of information. If so, then it would be a stretch to make a claim here based on a wikipedia article. I suppose it would be better to reference more [[http://www.upc-online.org/merchandise/debeak_factsheet.html]] than [[http://ars.sdstate.edu/animaliss/poultry.html]] one [[http://www.cnr.uidaho.edu/range556/Appl_BEHAVE/projects/Chicken_Cannibalism.html]] source.[[http://www.mullerslanefarm.com/cannibalism.html]]

== Stooley ==

Should Stooley get a character page and a cast nod? He does have a name and lines, which I think warrents him as being up there with Frank Bennedito or any of the other inanimate objects in the Homestar world... [[User:Cyndentia|Cyndentia]]

:If Stooley appears again then it seems likely that he will get a character page. Otherwise, No. [[User:Xifihas|Xifihas]]

::I strong disagree with Xifihas. The stool, or whatever we call it, is a charcter as it has lines. Lesser character have been called characters or at least [[Characters#Pseudocharacters|pseudocharacters]] ([[The Denzel]], [[Doreauxgard]]). {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

:::The only reason I am not adding this right now is that I don't know what to call it. The Stool? Stooley? Chairscoot? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

::::Strong Bad names the chair himself: "Stooly here is a tush-cheek's dream." Then we just decide on the spelling, right? [[User:Cyndentia|Cyndentia]] 13:18, 5 December 2006 (MST)
:::::That could just be a term of affection, and not a definite name. I'd go with "The Stool". - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::The page has actually been created as [[Stooly]], so further discussion should be at [[Talk:Stooly]] from this day henceforth. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's Face ==

Um, did anyone try checking if there's an easter egg in the Flash file itself when Strong Bad takes off his mask/face? You know, like the "Nice Try Dodongo" joke? It probably should be mentoined in the article what exactly is going there, animation-wise.--[[User:68.121.102.254|68.121.102.254]] 19:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:No... There's no Easter eggs... He's not up for it. [http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/3518/muhfacehe2.png See here]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
I just reworded a lengthy item about how the face should be backwards or upside-down or something when Strong Bad pulls it off. I disagree. He could have twisted his hand around, pulled straight up, and then untwisted his hand to hold up the mask for us to see. Furthermore, if TBC had animated it in any other way, it wouldn't have been as effective in showing off the mask. By that I mean that without a decompiler you can barely see the mask, and so they had to include the details exactly as they did in order for it to be recognizable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== What? ==
*In real world references:
<blockquote>This could also possibly be a reference to the character Largo in the Megatokyo webcomic. In this webcomic, Largo "is an impulsive alcoholic who speaks L33t fluently and frequently." Thus, the mention of "Danoob" might be to what is known commonly online as a newbie.</blockquote>
This doesn't make any sense, even if it were a connection to something. It sure needs to be cleaned up if it is something more than a coincidence.

I think it makes enough sense. Largo refers to the character from Megatokyo, and Danoob refers to the expression "the noob" which a l33t speaker would pronounce "da noob"... i dunno, use that if u like. --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

:I dunno. There're two completely different "explanations", and if you ask me, both of them seem like a stretch. A combination of a river and a webcomic character...? Uh... That just doesn't sound right to me. Considering that, it seems like it's a pretty broad "reference", if it even *is* one (yeah, TBC can be weird and random without referencing anything; it was probably meant to sound like a generic Swedish name), to the point of, dare I say it, TTATOT. Maybe a DVD commentary will explain it, but for now, I say we just don't bother trying to attach this to anything in the real world. STUFF one or both, I guess. -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

::Addendum:

* The reference to the "Danoob Largo" chair is '''probably''' a reference to the Danube River, which runs through Europe, where there are many people apt to buy such a manner of furniture. And in this case Danoob Largo would mean something like "Long Danube."
* This could also '''possibly''' be a reference to the character Largo in the Megatokyo webcomic. In this webcomic, Largo "is an impulsive alcoholic who speaks L33t fluently and frequently." Thus, the mention of "Danoob" '''might''' be to what is known commonly online as a newbie.

"Probably", "Possibly", "Might". Aren't these words rather frowned upon in real-world references, especially? -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:41, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::Still sounds TTATOTish to me. I don't think these should be listed as refs, IMHO. Besides, do the Brothers Chaps really even read shoujo manga webcomics?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 21:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

This fact is currently [[STUFF:the_chair#Teh_n00b_Largo.3F|STUFF'd]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

==404'd==
I'm not sure why, but the toon is 404'd. Any reason why?
EDIT: I refreshed it and it appeared? Weird.
--[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 16:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

==Horror movie references?==
Did anyone else think that the living Homestar "chair" was a reference to "House of Wax"?

Also, this may be a stretch, but the "I can't feel my parts" lines seemed awfully close to a line from the 1985 movie "Silver Bullet"--in that movie, a character is watching wrestling. One wrestler hits (or kicks, I can't quite remember) another in the groin, and the guy watching it says, "Ow, that hurt my parts!" It might well be a coincidence, but I thought the lines were awfully similar.

I too saw the "House of Wax" reference. The kid sitting at the piano is what Homestar reminded me of here. I was surprised to see that it wasn't in the references section...how many people see the link?

==It Came From Beneath The Soolnd==

I believe this is the first time that we see the bottom of Gron Sad's "feet". Is this noteworthy? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 06:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
:No, we've seen the bottoms in [[caffeine]] and [[Experimental Film]] too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:What is noteworthy is that they have circles, since the article on soolnds still says that they only have circles when Strong Sad has some sort of control over a cartoon. Or if he's hyperactive. I'd change it now, but I'm too tired. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
::The circular bottoms of the soolnds were also seen in [[highschool]] on "Middle-School Strong Sad". {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

== Projector screen ==

The projector screen that shows Strong Bad's paper route is obviously the same one from Fan Costumes '06. I added this to Inside Referances and it was deleted for no reason. Anybody know why?[[User:Rexisfed|Rexisfed]] 02:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

== Sweat Pants ==

The image of Strong Bad with all the sweat pants sure reminds me of this popular online video [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6tlw-oPDBM 155 T-Shirts]. Probably not worth a reference. Also the "stink stank stonk" seems like another reference to The Grinch (1960's cartoon), along with "slink" from the lappy-napped e-mail. [[User:Cyndentia|Cyndentia]]

== Dodongo ==

I've got this creeping feeling that TBC have used the line "nice try, Dodongo" before. I did a search but nothing came up. Am I just suffering from crazy deja vu, or am I on to something? [[User:72.187.97.84|72.187.97.84]] 23:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think they've used this particular word or phrase before, but they have had similar things in the past. The first one that comes to my mind is "Jhonka", from [[Peasant's Quest]]. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
::Not used before. Here's proof: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=dodongo A wiki main namespace search for "dodongo"]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I really don't feel it's worth opening up to yimmer-yammer, but I wanted just to say that Dodongo has been since I think the late 60's the knickname of Kenny Rogers. It's included in the link that is included in [[the chair]] for dodongo ([[Wikipedia:Enemies in The Legend of Zelda series#Dodongo]]), and I'm sure could be confirmed elsewhere since I remember it well from my childhood, and remember being shocked when I saw the name used in Zelda. But as I said, for all practical purposes I agree with the fact the way it is and don't really want to open up a can of worms too far. Thanks for your time. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 00:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I found it using a Google search, and it made me wonder why it wasn't already on Kenny's Wikipedia page (but not so much that I felt I should add it or anything). Still, knowing TBC's reputation, I'd bet good money it's the video game reference only. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Dodongo is a fictional character in the Legend of Zelda as well. I don't know why they would use that particular reference, though.
-Chris

== Guaranteed to break the ice at parties ==

There's a Monty Python sketch where a man selling "jokes" repeatedly says "...guaranteed to break the ice at parties". This was the first thing that I thought of the moment Bubs said "Always a hit at parties". Possible linkage? [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 15:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

:All reference citations start out as "first thing that I thought of the moment" but it's only after a bit of analysis that you can determine its worth. In this case, it's clearly a coincidence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

==How the Grinch Invaded the Email==

The outtake says "Last time it was stink" and "Stonk can't be far away". This is a reference to the song "You're a Mean One Mr. Grinch", from "How the Grinch Stole Christmas." One of the lyrics goes "The three words that best describe you, goes as follows, and I quote--Stink, Stank, Stunk" (or "Stonk" as Strong Bad pronounced it).
:There's been some discussion of this at [[Talk:Quote of the Week]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
::I love that part of the song. {{User:Neox/sig}}

== Styleron = Aeron ==
Aeron is a brand of super-expensive office chair that all the dot-com companies bought for their employees to prove they were successful. (http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=aeron) Styleron sounds like Aileron, the control surface that banks an airplane. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aileron) ''(Anonymous contributor)''

:I disagree with both. Aeron looks nothing like Le Restige, and is supposedly a reference to a diferent chair (also looks nothing like it.) and Aileron...isn't related to anything except for the fact that it sounds similar to the Styleron. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 05:16, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Ummm...yeah...my ''name'' is Aeron, and its also the name of a town in Ireland, a river running through the town in Ireland, a Celtic war hero, and a chemistry company, does that mean that TBC were referencing any of these? I-a don't-a think so.--[[User:Homsar Lover|Homsar Lover]]

== Parts Comment ==

Is this the first time that characters' genetalia has been mentioned or pointed towards? I don't think I've heard any of the characters mention the subject before...
:Um... Why does "parts" automatically mean "genetalia"? There are other parts to your body. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Red Ripened Banana==

I thought I heard "red ripened banana".
:I kinda disagree. Red White and Blue makes more sense.

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

===The STUFFerön IKEAchair===
{{stufffact|The Styleron Ecochair by Danoob Largo is a parody of furniture made by Swedish-founded [[Wikipedia:IKEA|IKEA]], known for advertising its products as modern and environmental and giving each product line a Scandinavian name.}}
{{stuffverdict|15:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)|22:46, 29 December 2006 (UTC)|accepted as revised|15|11|the chair}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Slow Danube ===
{{stufffact|The reference to the "Danoob Largo" chair is probably a reference to the Danube River, which runs through Europe, where there are many people apt to buy such a manner of furniture. And in this case Danoob Largo would mean something like "Long Danube."}}
{{stuffverdict|10:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)|07:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|12|1. A proposed revision was also declined, 10-1|the chair}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Unethical Chick Beaks ===
{{stufffact|"Ethical Chick'n Beaks" is probably a reference to the questionably unethical practice of [[Wikipedia:Debeaking|cutting off baby chicken beaks]] employed by many chicken mega-farms.}}
{{stuffverdict|05:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)|20:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|11|0|the chair}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Strong Bad Mask Removal ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's taking his mask off where the viewer can't see it is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Halo (video game series)|Halo]] series, where multiple times Master Chief takes his helmet off, and puts it back on, but his face is never seen.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)|21:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|14|1|the chair}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Teh n00b Largo? ===
{{stufffact|This could also possibly be a reference to the character Largo in the Megatokyo webcomic. In this webcomic, Largo "is an impulsive alcoholic who speaks L33t fluently and frequently." Thus, the mention of "Danoob" might be to what is known commonly online as a newbie.}}
{{stuffverdict|09:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)|03:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)|swiftly and unanimously declined|12|0|the chair}}

== SB's Picture ==

If the flash file is decompiled, can you see the picture of Strong BAd's face without his mask on? If so, I wanna see!--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 22:54, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:Nope, sorry. [[:Image:Sb mask.PNG|This]] is as close as you get. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::DOse this mean (Gasp!) that SB's mask is his whole head, and there's no head under the mask!?! [[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]] 00:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:::That actually makes some sense. He did gurgle, like he had disconnected his mouth. The only problem is the episode [[looking old]], where there appears to be something under the mask. [[User:Trlkly|Trlkly]] 04:17, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Before you guys get all, "I think I has the solution", on the talk page, consider that:
::::a)It's a cartoon, you shouldn't really worry about it.
::::b)TBC kinda' did this to give people who actually decompiled the .swf a little "gift" so to speak.
::::b-2)They did the same thing with the whole "And here's a picture of my parents" thing, too.
::::c)It's a cartoon, you shouldn't really worry about it. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 05:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== Transcript ==

Transcribing now, posting soon. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 19:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
:x.x For DVD commentary, that is. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 19:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
::That's great! For future reference, it's not really necessary or effective to mention this on the talk page, but you might consider editing the DVD section and changing <code><nowiki>{{sectionstub}}</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>{{inprogress}}</nowiki></code>, especially if you're concerned about someone else maybe doing it (that would be a somewhat unlikely coincidence, but it doesn't hurt to tag it anyway). Also, do you know about [[HRWiki:DVD_commentary_transcripts|DVD commentary project page]]? I recommend checking it out since you're working on them. Thanks for working on the DVD transcript! {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 19:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== What's going on here? ==

I don't hear this at all. I just hear screaming. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:46, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
:I can hear it. It certainly isn't as articulate as anything else SB says, but it does sound to me like he says, "What's going on here?" near the beginning of the malfunction. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 04:18, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
::I hear it as well. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 23:11, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Really?! It doesn't even sound like the intonation of a question to me. Nor do I hear a single consonant. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:04, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
::::I don't hear it either. Or can some of you who hear it maybe help me know what I'm missing? Like, when does it sound? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:48, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::I think you need a lot of imagination to hear any kind of words or even a sentence in that scream.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:48, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

email thunder

Loafing — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 22:29:53 GMT

Loafing: It's noteworthy because it ties in nicely with the Strong Sad easter egg

{{sbenav|200|link=sbemailtwohundred}}
[[Image:SINCE THE CRAP WHEN.png|thumb|"Whaddya mean, ''your'' email?! I'm in the middle of checkin' ''my'' email!"]]

In his big bicennten-email, Strong Bad learns Homestar has his own email show and attempts to thwart it.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, [[New Paper]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[The Paper]], [[Limozeen]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Homestar Runner's House#Interior|Homestar's Computer Room]], [[The Field]], the [[Review Revue]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, September 23, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 5:10

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Six}}, {{dvd|Sbemails' 50 Greatest Hits DVD|notitle=true}}

==Transcript==

''{The email begins with a red curtain with "sbemail 200" on it. A drumroll begins. Then, the curtain opens to show the Lappy with a pixelated bugle on it. Trumpets begin to play. Pan out to the Computer Room with roses on its floor. The Cheat appears and plays a trill on a flute.}''

'''SINGER:''' Two hundred sbemails, exhausting just to think about.

''{During the song, "200" appears in the fonts of the Tandy, Compy, and Lappy sequentially, followed by "strongbad_email.exe" typed out. Strong Bad enters the computer room on the red carpet while roses are thrown. Marzipan and Coach Z are seen watching him enter.}''

'''SINGER:''' How can we face two hundred sbemails?

''{Strong Bad continues to approach the computer, showing that the King of Town and Bubs are also in the room. We then cut to the singer, who is revealed to be the Poopsmith, wearing a bowtie and holding a microphone, as he finishes his song.}''

'''THE POOPSMITH:''' The thought of all those sbemails makes me weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeak!

''{Cut to Strong Bad standing on his stool. Strong Sad can be seen among the audience.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{finishing the song}'' ''Puke!'' ''{echoing}'' Please be seated. ''{The audience sits down.}'' ''{normally}'' How about that Poopsmith, huh? Breaking his vow of silence to perform my two hundredth sbemail intro song! ''{Close shot of Strong Bad}'' I'm almost ''{pantomimes wiping his nose}'' sniff ''{voice wavers}'' not totally disgusted!

''{Cut to the Poopsmith, surrounded by flies. He gives Strong Bad the thumbs up, and whatsit drips from his glove. Cut to Strong Bad sitting down at the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I take that back. ''{types out "strongbad_email.exe"}'' Okay, here we go!

''{pulls up the email, but doesn't read it}''

<blockquote class="lappy email"><div>subject: college girls?</div>
Dear Homestar, 
Me and all of my young college friends that live in my dorm were just wondering if you wanted to come over and have a pillow fight sometime because we think you are sooooooo very cool. 
All the college dorm girls at MO 
Hannah, Micah, Rachel, Sally, Peggy, Vicky, Amber, 
and all the rest of use
</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Duh-duh-duh-Dear ''HOMESTAR''!? ''{extreme close-up on Homestar's name}'' W.T.C.? ''{Camera zooms out}'' New Paper, print me out a hard copy. ''{It does and he grabs it.}'' I'll teach Homestar to steal my 200th email thunder. ''{Thunder booms}'' Hooyah! ''{Strong Bad gets up and leaves}''

''{Cut to Homestar at a table, typing on his [[Happy 8600]]}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{typing}'' —a protected landmark with surprisingly clean restrooms!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Homejob! Some stupid girls that are probably really guys accidentally emailed me—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ugh. Strong Bad, how do you keep gettin' in here?

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? What are you talking about? I just—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm in the middle of checking my email.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whaddaya mean, ''your'' email? I'm in the middle of checking ''my'' email!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You're not the only one around here ''{Close shot of Homestar}'' that answers emails from fans with humorous results.

''{Cut back to show the two characters}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Since the crap when?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. Since forever. ''{Close shot of Homestar}'' Don't you remember? You're in a bunch of 'em. Like that old classic when they asked ''{Camera zooms out}'' about burglars ''{thumping his feet}'' breaking into my house.

''{Cut to Homestar in his darkened living room, in a Homestar Runner shirt, white robe and sleeping cap}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' If I act all sleepy and throw a bunch of ''{holds up a cinnamon dispenser}'' cinnamon on my face, it's usually enough to throw 'em off. ''{opens the lid and throws cinnamon on his face}'' Poo, poo. Poo, poo.

''{The light turns on as he walks into living room to find Strong Bad and The Cheat having broken the cow lamp, from the email [[caper]]}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{yawns}'' Hey Strong Sad. Batman. What are you guys doing in my house?

''{Screen dims}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ''Whaaaaaat?''

''{Cut to the scene from [[long pants]], where Homestar is wearing Daisy Dukes in front of Strong Bad.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{voiceover}'' And who can forget when I accidentally took some of Strong Sad's pills?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{overlapped by Homestar}'' Okay, calm down, I didn't mean to—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Long pants, Strong Bad! The longest pants! Everybody everybody! Longest pants!

''{Homestar teleports around the room to a different place after each word he says. He first appears in front of Strong Bad, then leaning in behind him, then hanging upside down from the ceiling, then pixellated on the Lappy's screen as Atari Homestar, then blurred in the scene's foreground, then upside down under the desk, then back to his original position, looking exhausted and out of breath, all while chanting the following.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Long long long long long long pants!

''{Screen dims}''

''{Cut to a dimmed shot of the basement. Strong Bad is sitting on the couch. Coach Z is standing to the left wearing a fondue pot on his head and a Tigger tail.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{voiceover}'' And that one where I dressed up real good like Coach Z. ''{Screen brightens up}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, Strong Bad, I think I ruined your fondue part!

'''STRONG BAD:''' My fondue part?

''{Cut back to Homestar's computer room. Strong Bad is standing on the table.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{now frustrated}'' Hang! On! Shut! Face! Those were ''my'' emails and you squeazeled your way into them.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm glad you believe that, Strong Bad. Anyways, Let me see that email. ''{takes the email from Strong Bad and looks at it}'' ''{Zoom in on Homestar.}'' Oh, come on! ''Another'' pillow fight? Haven't they seen hremail #49?

''{Cut back to show the two characters. Strong Bad is sitting on the edge of the table}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hr-what mail?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hremail. You've got sbemails, I've got hremails.

''{As he says "sbemails" and "hremails", they appear over his head as text, as if someone typed them}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Do you even have an email address?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Of course I do. Everybody knows it's ''{close shot of the Happy 8600 as Homestar types his email address}'' DJmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com.

''{Cut back to to show the two characters. Strong Bad is leaning off the table and standing on his head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' There's a good chance my brain is about to explode right now.

''{Zoom in on Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aww, come on, old timer. It's not so bad. You want to help me check this email?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{gets in Homestar's face and pokes him as he speaks}'' I'm not gonna help you check your email! I'm gonna help myself ''ruin'' your email! ''{Camera zooms out}'' Whooyaa!

''{Strong Bad exits to the left, and then reappears holding three ice cream sandwiches.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And help myself to your ice cream sammies. Booyaa.

''{Strong Bad runs off, leaving behind one of the sandwiches, which spins in midair.}''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad's computer room. The subject/to line and screen are inexplicably blank. The Lappy's cursor is on the subject/to line. Strong Bad sits down at the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll teach Homestar to retroactively steal my email thunder! ''{thunder booms}''

''{Strong Bad types out the following email.}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>to: DJmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com</div>
Dear Homestar, 
I'm a big fan of your hremails and was wandering, can 
you give us a tour of your not-in-front-of-your-computer? 
Sewiously yours, 
Abdi
</blockquote>

''{As he types, he pronounces "wandering" with a short "A" sound as in "ham", and "sewiously" exactly as typed.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' ''Send!''

''{The Lappy's screen clears and the camera whips to the opposite side of the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{mumbling}'' Let's see now, a few seconds for the DNS to resolve, server, SMTP, now he's reading it, and... ''ding''! He's taken the bait! ''{leaps away}'' Hooyah!

''{Cut to The Field. Homestar walks in to the left, carrying a clipboard, approaching a wooden sign that reads "Historic Not-in-Front-of-My-Computer" and has a laptop with an X on top of it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, and if you look to your left, you'll see Historic Not-in-Front-of-My-Computer: a protected landmark with surprisingly clean restrooms.

''{In the background, Strong Bad is seen running to the right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Tee hee hee!

''{Cut to the Happy 8600. Strong Bad runs in from the left as rock music begins to play.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh hello, idiot-proof computer! You look a little thirsty. Time for some long overdue allegedly citrus-flavored payback!

''{Strong Bad produces a giant bottle of Mountain Dew. Zoom in on Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rubs chin}'' How does that old adage go? Ah, yes. ''{mimicking Homestar}'' "Apply libewally!" ''{Camera zooms out}'' Hooyah!

''{Strong Bad pours the Mountain Dew on the Happy 8600. Within seconds, it begins to spark and smoke.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! ''{smiles}'' Ha ha!

''{New Paper comes down, but instead of showing Strong Bad's email address, it says "Click here to email Homestar Runner", with Homestar's email address. The two images of the "@" key and Strong Bad's head in an envelope are also missing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looks up}'' Hey! Whose side are you on, anyway?

''{New Paper is pulled back off-screen. Some blows are exchanged, and The Paper comes down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{smiles again}'' The Paper! You came back!!

''{A spark catches The Paper, and it burns to a crisp.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oops.

''{The screen clears to black, and the words "Strong Bad Emails" appear. The names of the first two hundred Strong Bad Emails scroll up from the bottom in the background.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Rolling over one of the following email names at the end brings up an image of a character (or characters) who first appeared in that email.
**[[homsar]]: [[Homsar]]
**[[band names]]: [[Limozeen]]
**[[superhero name]]: [[Strong Badman]]
**[[ghosts]]: [[Bad Graphics Ghost]]
**[[comic]]: [[Teen Girl Squad]]
**[[japanese cartoon]]: [[Stinkoman]]
**[[dragon]]: [[Trogdor]]
**[[crazy cartoon]]: [[Eh! Steve!]]
**[[kind of cool]]: [[Senor Cardgage]]
**[[montage]]: [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]]
**[[animal]]: [[Sterrance]]

*At the end, click on "legends" to see a scene about The Poopsmith's singing abilities.
*:''{a tattered scrap of brown paper appears, with The Poopsmith drawn on it, along with the words "200 email curse", "legend tells...", "The Poopsmith", and "old parchment"}''
*:'''NARRATOR:''' Legend tells that every 200 sbemails The Poopsmith will break his vow of silence—
*:''{the drawing changes to The Poopsmith holding a microphone and wearing a bowtie. The words "Well, well, well, my Michelle..." are added.}''
*:'''NARRATOR:''' —and croon anew.

*At the end, click on the "O" in "Strong" to see a scene with Limozeen. This is an edited version of their Easter egg from the 100th email, [[flashback]].
*:'''LIMOZEEN:''' Congratulations, Strong Bad, on your ''{[[Matt Chapman|Matt]]'s voice interrupts, loudly saying:}'' '''200th''' ''{voice ends}'' email!
*:''{slight pause}''
*:'''LARRY:''' ''{startling the other bandmembers}'' WE'RE FROM ''{Matt cuts in again}'' '''THE YEAR 2008'''!
*:'''PERRY:''' Uh, I think it says that at the top of the screen, Larry.
*:''{the words "it is 2008!" appear over the Limozeen logo)''
*:'''LARRY:''' WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT!
*:''{The band members strike various poses and the frame freezes, as the ending riff from "Brain Sister" plays.}''

*At the end, click on the "A" in "Bad", to see more with Strong Bad's soda.
*:''{Strong Bad continues to pour Mountain Dew on the Happy. Homestar walks in.}''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh, cool. How did you get it to do that? USB? Four pin? Eight pin? FireWire? Was it FireWire? I bet it was FireWire. ''{walks out again}''

*At the end, click on the "A" in "Emails" to bring up a pop-up to download the "200 Sbemails" song by [[They Might Be Giants]].

*At the end, click on the "S" in "Emails" to see a scene with Strong Sad.
*:''{Strong Sad is giving a review on his review show, "Review Revue"}''
*:'''STRONG SAD:''' In his shocking 200th episode, Strong Bad turns the entire series on its ear. Will we ever see a 201? Is the reign of HREmails ''{emphasizes the ''H''}'' at hand? For the answers to these questions, be sure and ''not'' check out my blog. I haven't updated that thing in years!

*If an email was sent to [mailto:djmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com djmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com] before December 2008, an auto reply message would be sent back, saying:
<blockquote>From: djmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com 
Subject: My Inbox Runneth Ova! 
 
Oh, hello everyone! For some unknown reason I'm getting this big cavalcanche of emails all of the sudden. They're filling up the basement and I'm running out of paper towels! 
 
Just sit tight and hremails will be back to normal before you know it. 
 
And thanks again to everyone who participated in Bacon Pretend Week! Ron Staple you are a GENIUS! 
 
Okay bye, 
Homestar Runner 
<nowiki>--------</nowiki> Original Message -------- 
 
> Your original message</blockquote>

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The term "Stealing One's Thunder" (from which the title is derived) is used in situations wherein one person is associated with hoopla stemming from the efforts of another person. In this case, sbemail #200 was intended to be for Strong Bad, but the email itself was addressed to Homestar Runner, who would therefore be recognized as the recipient of the 200th email.
*When Strong Bad sends his email, he mentions several technical terms:
**[[Wikipedia:Domain Name Server#DNS_resolvers|DNS Resolving]] is a process done by a DNS (Domain Name System) server in which it identifies the IP address of a [[Wikipedia:Domain name|domain name]].
**[[Wikipedia:Simple Mail Transfer Protocol|SMTP]], or Simple Mail Transfer Protocol, is a standard for servers sending email.
*[[Wikipedia:Universal Serial Bus|USB]] and [[Wikipedia:IEEE 1394 interface|FireWire]] are modern types of serial connections. Older serial connectors were defined by the number of connectors or "pins" they have. Therefore, a 4-pin or an 8-pin would have 4 or 8 pins, respectively, though no such standard connections existed. Serial ports were traditionally 9-pin and 25-pin.

===Trivia===
*Opening [[HR:hremail49.html|hremail49.html]] will play an excerpt from that email.
**Opening [[HR:hremail24.html|hremail24.html]] will play what is left of an event referenced in the previous [[hremail]].
*The label on the [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#duck pond|duck pond]]".
*[[John Linnell]] provides the voice of the Poopsmith, marking the only main character who is not voiced by [[the Brothers Chaps]] or [[Missy]].
*This is the only time we unambiguously hear the Poopsmith talk. 
*The Cheat is playing a [[Left Handedness|left-handed]] flute at the beginning.
*When this toon was first released, the thunder sound effects and the flashing were not there when Strong Bad said "email thunder". These were added later.
*This email took the shortest amount of time for any Strong Bad Email to come to DVD, as [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Six]] came only two months later.
*The summary for the [[Podstar Runner]] RSS feed reads, "Strong Bad finds out Homestar has his own email show and is trying to steal his email thunder."
*This email contains about 15 Easter eggs. This is more than any email, or any toon, has ever had so far.

===Remarks===
* The bugle at the beginning has [[angled pixels]], which is a technological impossibility on such supposed low-resolution gifs.
*After the close-up on the Lappy, the cursor disappears.
*In the flashbacks to [[caper]] and [[long pants]], Strong Bad's design is the newest one, rather than the one he had at that time, which was the [[Strong Bad Evolution|sixth]].
*In the flashback to [[caper]], before the light turns on, The Cheat is already standing next to the cabinet; in the actual email, he's standing in front of it.
*When The Paper comes down, it is clickable and will let you email Strong Bad until he accidentally burns it up.
*Strong Bad pulls the giant bottle of Mountain Dew from [[Hammerspace]].
*Strong Bad has no idea Homestar has an Email address, yet he knew exactly what it was in [[credit card]].
*Strong Bad is surprised at the email, but in [[the process]] he says he picks the email beforehand.
*The Strong Sad Easter egg simply said "sbemail200" on the corner of the screen without the ".html" at the end, as opposed to "sbemail179''.html''" in [[pizza joint]]. This may be because this email's URL is not "sbemail200.html" but "sbemailtwohundred.html".
*Rolling over "[[kind of cool]]" to show [[Senor Cardgage]] doesn't work on the word "cool", which is located at the beginning of the next line.
*Strong Bad never actually answers an email in this cartoon.
*During the closeup of "Dear Homestar", the following text is visible on the Lappy with a decompiler:
<blockquote>Oh...Steven! I think this may finally be it you guys! After 
200 emails I'm finally gonna get 
to make out with D-D-D </blockquote>
:This is most likely a scrapped response for the initial email, and was later featured in [[Quote of the Week#QW-2008-10-16|the Quote of the Week]].
:*Part of the text can briefly be seen if you view the email as the Flash file and make the window tall.
*The back button sends you to the [[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons page]] rather than the Strong Bad Email page.

===Goofs===
*When Homestar puts cinnamon on his face, his eyes are the wrong size. They're quite noticeably squished and placed too high on his face.
[[Image:EmailThunderOffSync.png|thumb|100px|Blurry blurry blurry blurry blurry blurry pants!]]
*In the clip from [[long pants]], when Homestar is blurred in the foreground, the table and carpet within the image of blurred Homestar are not in their proper places.
**Additionally, the first line of words on the screen are not there.
*On the end screen, there is no space between [[cheatday]] and [[pom pom]].

===Fixed Goofs===
*Originally on the end screen, highlighting [[ghosts]] would bring up a picture of [[Sterrance]], who never appeared in that email. This has since been corrected; the [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] now appears when that email is highlighted.
*Also originally on the end screen, sibbie was spelled "sibby".

===Glitches===
*If the Limozeen Easter egg is activated, followed by another Easter egg, Limozeen will continue to play over the other one.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's destroying the Happy with [[Mountain Dew]] parallels Homestar's similar use of the soft drink on the Compy in [[anything]]. Strong Bad even quotes Homestar's "apply liberally", imitating his impediment.
*Coach Z returning [[Strong Bad's fondue pot]] is a reference to [[50 emails]].
*Strong Bad signs his message to Homestar "Abdi", based on [[Abdi LaRue]], the sender of the very first email, [[some kinda robot]].
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]] twice at the end of the email; once when the Happy starts to spark, and once when The Paper comes down.
*The Easter egg with Limozeen is lifted directly from [[flashback]].
**At the very end, the ending riff from "Brain Sister" is heard, which originated in [[Summer Short Shorts]].
*The Easter egg with Strong Sad refers to [[Strong Sad's Lament]], which, true to Strong Sad's words, hasn't been updated since September 9, 2005.
*In this email, The Cheat plays the [[Instruments|flute]].
*The Easter egg with Strong Sad uses the same theme as in the Strong Sad Easter egg in [[pizza joint]].
*Homestar's laptop [[Happy 8600]] is manufactured by [[Tandy]].
*Strong Bad apparently [[Interrupted Conversations|interrupts]] a Homestar Runner Email when he enters the room.
*The fonts used to write "200" in the intro are the fonts from each of [[Computers#Computers|Strong Bad's computers]].
*Homestar once again uses [[cinnamon]] for stubble.
*Homestar's disdain for the "repeat" pillow-fight topic seems to reflect the "topics the Brothers' Chap aren't likely to answer," most notably requests to "[[draw Trogdor again]]."
*Strong Bad's signs his email to Homestar with the catchphrase "[[Seriously|Sewiously]]", in the same vein as emails he received signed "[[Crapfully yours]]".
*"Squeazeled" and "cavalanche" are [[portmanteaus]].
*The Paper returns to beat up New Paper, making it the first appearance of the original on the site since the email [[the paper]].
*Strong Bad's exclamation, "WTC?" appears to be an initialism for "[[Crap|What the Crap?]]".
*There are three instances of [[Not X]] in this email: Strong Bad is "almost not totally disgusted" by The Poopsmith's singing; he asks Homestar for "a tour of your not-in-front-of-your-computer"; and in an Easter egg, Strong Sad tells viewers to "be sure and not check out my blog."
*Homestar's list of hremails is similar to the one in [[personal favorites]], in that they both have narration that says ''"like the one when... wrote in..."'' and ''"and the one where..."'', as well as the first two emails being real and the rest being fake.
*Homestar claims to have taken some of [[Strong Sad's Pills|Strong Sad's pills]] when remembering the email [[long pants]].
*The [[Floppy Disk Container|floppy disk]] on Strong Bad's desk has "[[Duck Pond]]" written on it.

===Real-World References===
*The Poopsmith Easter egg refers to the song "My Michelle" by [[Guns N' Roses]].
*Homestar's laptop is modeled after an [[Wikipedia:OLPC XO-1|XO-1]], an inexpensive model distributed as part of the [[Wikipedia:One Laptop Per Child|One Laptop Per Child]] project. The laptop was made available to North American consumers during the 2007 holiday season in a "Give 1 Get 1" offer. Interestingly, the XO-1 keyboard is designed to resist liquids.
* The menu page description for this toon says, "Homestar will flip you. He will flip you for real." This is a reference to a memorable line spoken by [[Wikipedia: Benicio Del Toro|Benicio Del Toro's]] character in [[Wikipedia: The Usual Suspects|The Usual Suspects]].
*Homestar's email address is a reference to [[Wikipedia: Wolfenstein (series)| the Wolfenstein series']] Main character, BJ Blazkowicz.
*The beginning riff that plays when Strong Bad approaches Homestar's computer with the Mountain Dew is very similar to the intro riff of "Between the Hammer and the Anvil" by [[Wikipedia: Judas Priest|Judas Priest]]

===Fast Forward===
*Some full-length [[Hremails]] were released beginning in over 2009, arguably doing what Strong Sad foreshadows in the Review Revue Easter egg and reigning over Sbemails.
*Strong Bad eventually checked his 201st email in [[hremail 3184]].

==DVD Version==
*The roll-over egg and downloading of the song (for obvious reasons) are disabled.
*The HREmail 49 and 24 Easter eggs are directly accessible from the end of the toon.
{{commentary|email=true}}
=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' A millstone, Mike, a Millstone coffee. This email is like a cup of Millstone coffee.

'''MIKE:''' So, we still really haven't decided if there'll be more sbemails or not.

'''MATT:''' Oh, I've decided.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, there won't be.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' There won't be?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that's— we're done.

'''MIKE:''' Okay.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that e— that slow-motion walk clip, that was the culmination of all of eight years of efforts, or six years in Strong Bad Email case.

'''MIKE:''' In Strong Bad Email case?

'''MATT:''' Yeah. ''{pause}'' So we totally collaborated with John Linnell in this song, and for weeks ahead we sent him notes and he would send... rough drafts of the song back to us, and he totally didn't just make this song and send it to us and there was maybe one email exchange between the two of us.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Oh really?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that was our creative process.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, okay.

'''MATT:''' It was not that. No, we told him, hey, do you— we had originally asked him to do something for 199, since he had done a song for email 99, but then email 199, we kinda just came and went, did a normal email, and then, uhh, he just made this.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' He made this song.

'''MATT:''' He was like, hey, I made a little thing, a little intro for a— the sbemail 200.

'''MIKE:''' And then we listened to it about ten times in a row and then we thought, I dunno, it just came to us that maybe The Poopsmith should be singing it.

'''MATT:''' Yep. ''{pause}'' It's a bombshell, man.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, man.

'''MATT:''' TBC dropped a bombshell at the beginning of this email.

'''MIKE:''' That email thunder, the little lightning and thunder flashiness was added, like, a couple hours after it was up.

'''MATT:''' Oh yeah, that's right.

'''MIKE:''' I fixed a couple goofs, and then I added that, just cause I had the idea to add it.

'''MATT:''' Nice, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' I'm surprised we didn't add, we had always talked about putting something on Homestar's wall.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' It looks a little bare.

'''MATT:''' A picture of s— of, uhh, Señor Havin' A Little Trouble, maybe, or Mr. Bland. ''{pause}'' he— Homestar has, uhh, Ryan Sterritt's kitchen table.

'''MIKE:''' And Ikea's kitchen table.

'''MATT:''' And a nice molded-plastic chair. ''{pause}'' Oh, tappa-tappa-tappa.

'''MIKE:''' So we had talked about doing this for a long time, having a cartoon where you start on Homestar, and Homestar's doing a bunch of stuff, and falls asleep, and then it turns out that this was sort of the p— Homestar's version of the Strong Bad Email, where he would then come into a Strong Bad Email like this.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Did I explain that well?

'''MATT:''' Not well at all.

'''MIKE:''' We talked about making a cartoon where it's Homestar and then at the end of the cartoon or somewhere within the cartoon you see one of their little scenes where Homestar popped into a Strong Bad Email, and it was actually part of a larger story focusing on Homestar the Runner. That was eloquence. ''{unintelligible}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that was a little better. Now that spent half the commentary talking about that.

'''MIKE:''' We got nothing else to talk about.

'''MATT:''' I like— I think Coach Z with that fondue pot on his head should be some kind of— ''and the tail'' should be some kind of Johnny Appleseed.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' We should make up like a, Saddy Dumpington— it should be the Saddy Dumpington version of Coach Z.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, yeah.

'''MATT:''' He's got a tiger tail.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Monday's update, I call that.

'''MIKE:''' Alright.

'''MATT:''' Get started, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' What was the, uh—

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}'' I've got diarrhea, I won't be able to do work on that one.

'''MIKE:''' What did you record the, uh, sound of Homestar's computer, uh, keyboard tapping sound?

'''MATT:''' Uh, it was on my— my old, uh, laptop at home.

'''MIKE:''' Oh.

'''MATT:''' Nothing— nothing interesting.

'''MIKE:''' ''{pause}'' Umm...

'''MATT:''' Whooyaa!

'''MIKE:''' He says some nice whooyaas several times.

'''MATT:''' Several, three or four whooyaas. ''{pause}'' Umm, so this is the first time we've ever seen Strong Bad re— like, send a, uh, actually send an email, right?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, the cursor blinking up in the subject bar.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that was you, man.

'''MIKE:''' Mm-hn.

'''MATT:''' ''{pause}'' Umm, how does Homestar type with no gloves of any kind on? Right? Hands? Whoo!

'''MIKE:''' Uh, what do you call that?

'''MATT:''' A blurry swoosh.

'''MIKE:''' A swoosh?

'''MATT:''' That's a whip pan.

'''MIKE:''' A whip pan, that's what I was looking for.

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}'' A 180-degree whip stick.

'''MIKE:''' Did you see the stool, the stool was kinda slowly gliding back.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Maybe it had been greased recently.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' That, uh, is that the same sign from, uh, the hygiene email? Gene's Mouth National—

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Yeah, the one— Gene's Mouth National—

'''MIKE:''' Park.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{pause}'' Do do do do do do do do guh guh guh guh guh guh! ''{pause}'' Umm... ''{pause}'' Throw— there's a lot of callbacks in this email.

'''MIKE:''' Mountain Dew, pouring Mountain Dew.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, there's really no original content in it at all.

'''MIKE:''' It's a clip show, it may as well just of been a clip show.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, you did a poor job on this 200th email.

'''MIKE:''' But, uh, I—

'''MATT:''' It's too bad this is the last email we're ever making.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' For sure, I decided right now, for certain, never again.

'''MIKE:''' Really?

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}'' Sorry.

'''MIKE:''' I bet by the time this DVD's out we will have made one already.

'''MATT:''' No.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Alright.

'''MATT:''' I'm holdin' out.

'''MIKE:''' Okay.

'''MATT:''' I have a sore throat and dia— diarrhea.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' I'm sure everyone needed to know that.

'''MATT:''' That one's my favorite.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, that one's my favorite.

'''MATT:''' Oh, I like that one, too.

'''MIKE:''' That one sucks.

'''MATT:''' Oh, I— oh, that one. Yeah, that one's bad.

=== Fun Facts ===
*[[Wikipedia:Millstone Coffee|Millstone Coffee]] was previously referred to in the commentary for [[50 emails]].
*The email [[credit card]] is actually the first time that Strong Bad sent an email onscreen.
*Despite Mike's prediction, no new Strong Bad Emails were released in between email thunder and strongbad_email.exe Disc Six. Strong Bad finally made his "comeback" on June 29, 2009 in [[hremail3184]].
*Matt makes a dual reference to both Homestar's [[lack of visible arms]] and Strong Bad's ability to [[How do you type with boxing gloves on?|type with boxing gloves on]].

==See Also==
*[[Place ya bets!]]
*[[Page Load Error]]

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|twohundred|14754|youtube=XSz1L3ni_4E}}
*[[HR:sbemail200_zeen.swf|view the Flash file for the Limozeen Easter egg]]
*[[HR:songs/200sbemails.zip|download the song]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Lappy 486 Emails]][[Category:Podstar Runner]]

modeling

Loafing — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 09:45:00 GMT

Loafing: rv. This was most likely not on purpose, so it's a goof.

{{sbenav|132}}
[[Image:sbemail132.PNG|thumb|"I'll pencil you in."]]

Strong Bad is encouraged to become a model.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, June 27, 2005

'''Running time:''' 3:10

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Five}}

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Can you handle my style? No, you can't handle my styyyyyle. Email! ''{pulls up email, begins reading}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: modeling</div>
dear STRONG BAD!!!!! 
i think you're a pretty good looking guy. Have you ever 
considered doing some modeling? 
Yours truuly, 
Meghan, Albuquerque
</blockquote>

''{Yells name at top of lungs, says "truuly" as "troo-OO-ly", "Meghan" as "Meg-han", "Albuquerque" as "Al-bu-quay-quay"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' dear MEGHAN!!!!!! ''{yelled and pronounced as before}'' Of course I've considered modeling. Someone as pretty good looking as me gets approached on the street all the-wait. Modeling?! Hmmmm. That's a truuly ''{pronounced as before}'' great idea! ''{clears screen}'' Why did I never think of that before? Maybe I should go get me some new threads at Styles Upon Styles and get some headshots taken. Pom Pom has a camera. Maybe I'll get him to take some pictures of me. Or better yet, maybe I'll go karate chop the King of Town and THEN get Pom Pom to take some pictures of me.

''{Music starts. Strong Bad approaches the King of Town, in front of his castle. Strong Bad karate chops the King.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ow!

''{Cut to Strong Bad in a makeshift modeling studio in the Field, sitting on a box, and wearing a blue shirt with a yellow shirt tied around his neck, capelike. The backdrop is a white sheet with paint in various colors randomly splattered on it, taped to two wooden posts. Photography lights seen on the left and right, and a silhouette of Pom Pom is seen in the foreground with a camera. The screen flashes as Pom Pom takes the picture, and as it fades back in, we see a closeup of Strong Bad in the same outfit, now holding a tennis racket.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ha haa!

''{Screen flashes. Strong Bad is lying on the ground.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Who, me?

''{Another flash. He's standing on box, with right hand held out in front of him, as though he's pointing at camera}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm charming! ''{points with left hand}''

''{Another flash. He's standing with tennis racket.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{off-handed tone}'' I'm charming.

''{Yet another flash. Camera is panned back so that Pom Pom is visible again. Strong Bad is standing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, what's the time? ''{looks at right wrist as though looking at a watch}''

''{Another flash. Another close up, Strong Bad starts out turned away from camera, turns toward it, waves, holds his chin, with afterimages following him. Another flash. Strong Bad is wearing a black suit with a purple shirt and glasses, holding a briefcase.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm casually late!

''{Another flash. Screen the same. Strong Bad walks toward stage right, and pauses posing. The camera flashes again, Strong Bad is seen in front of what seems to be a paneled wood wall, holding a telephone with only a frayed wire coming out of it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's-a do lunch. Ha-haaa! ''{puts down phone, picks up the tennis racket.}''

''{Another flash. Strong Bad is lying on his stomach on the ground, holding a pencil and leaning toward camera.Wall in last image was just another screen, leaning on posts.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll pencil you in. ''{pretends to write something on the ground}''

''{One more flash. Strong Bad is in a frozen walking pose in front of a blue screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, look at the time! ''{kneels and looks at "watch" again}''

''{Another flash. Strong Bad is wearing a white turtleneck and a sailor's cap, holding a corn-cob pipe and a golf club. A map is seen in the background, in front of the false wood wall.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I say, lads, is that Cape Cod? ''{uses golf club to point at map, shrugs.}''

''{Another flash. Camera cuts back again. Strong Bad is sitting on box.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, look, off the portboard stow.

''{Another flash. He's standing with hands on hips.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' We're on a collision course with sultriness! ''{shakes hips}''

''{Last flash. Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I can't wait to get those pictures back from the lab. I can totally see some of them being used in one of those glossy fashion magazines. Y'know, the kind that cost nine bucks and are 97% ads. Like maybe in an ad for those fancy leather shoes that you're supposed to wear without...

''{Ad for "Homely Boy Brand HUGE Tube Socks" featuring Strong Bad is displayed.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...socks. WITHOUT SOCKS!

''{Image vanishes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man! Can you imagine the luxury! Ooh! Or some kinda fancy men's cologn...ac.

''{Ad for "Doctor Stankfoot's Watery Athlete's Foot Cream" featuring Strong Bad appears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And I can be laying next to some skinny blonde girl looking totally disinterested. You know like, "Whatever, baby.

''{Ad disappears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You can't even approach the flava... of my colognac." ''{clears screen}'' No wait! The cover of some steamy romance novel! And my ripped...

''{Book titled "Unattractive Detective Stories!! The Case of the Dame with the Hard-to-Look-at-Teeth" appears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...self would be on top of some cliff or lighthouse clutching a milkmaid in a flowy dress.

''{It vanishes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And she'd be like, "No, Parson Jim, it can never be!" But I'm all like, "Look in your heart, Chezmerelda."

''{Camera cuts back to show Strong Sad standing next to desk, holding pile of mail.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Hey, Strong Bad, I was just looking through today's mail, and guess who made the cover of ''Husky Headed Boys Back 2 School Catalog''.

'''STRONG BAD:''' WHAT?!? Back-to-school already?! It's not even July! So, who's on the cover?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh, ''you'' are.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''What?!'' I ain't got no husky head!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, it's about the same size as my husky body... ''{hits stomach twice, makes dodgeball-like sound effect}'' Oh, and this check ''{holds out check}'' from ''Husky Headed Boys Catalog'' came—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{swiping check}'' Whoa-ho! My husky head commands a pretty penny! This'll bring home a few months' worth of bacon! I bet your husky body's not worth a hundred and eight dollars.

'''STRONG SAD:''' No, but poachers have offered several ''thousand'' for my feet.

''{Homestar walks up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey guys! Guess who made this week's cover of ''Stupid Coincidence Magazine''!

''{He holds up [[Periodicals|magazine]], which features Homestar. He throws it over his shoulder and starts dancing to the same music Strong Bad posed to earlier.Camera flashes, and "Husky Headed Boys" and "Stupid Coincidence Magazine" issues appear up close. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on Strong Bad's diamond to see an ad for "SB Finest Colognac."

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===

*"Colognac" is a [[portmanteau]] word formed by combining "[[Wikipedia:Cognac (drink)|cognac]]", a distilled liquor, and "[[Wikipedia:Eau de Cologne|cologne]]", a fragrance.
*"Portboard Stow" is double [[portmanteau]]. "Portboard" combines "Port", the left side, and "Starboard", the right side of a ship. "Stow" combines both "Stern", the rear end, and "Bow", the front end of a ship. The portboard stow could be the dead center of the boat, based on this.
*[[Wikipedia:Cape Cod|Cape Cod]] is a peninsula forming the south-easternmost part of Massachusetts.

===Trivia===
*The ads and magazines read, in order:
<pre>HOMELY BOY BRAND
HUGE TUBE SOCKS

"YOU MIGHT COULD SLEEP IN ONE!"</pre> 
<pre>GOT STINKFOOT?
GET STANKFOOT!
DOCTOR
STANKFOOT'S
WATERY
ATHLETE'S
FOOT CREAM</pre> 
<pre>Unattractive
Detective Stories!!
The Case of the Dame
with the
Hard-to-Look-at-Teeth</pre>
:*''[[Stupid Coincidence Magazine]]:''
<pre>Stupid $9
Coincidence
MAGAZINE

Why Some People
Our Think Saying
Least Likely Ka-Winky-Dink
Issue Yet!! Is Funny
pg. 143</pre>
:*''[[Husky Headed Boys Back 2 School Catalog]]:''
<pre>HUSKY Headed Boys
BACK 2 SCHOOL!!
Catalog

Giant Headed
SUMMER 2005 Kids Need
Clothes
Too!!</pre> 
<pre>SB

FINEST COLOGNAC.

drink it. or wear it. we don't really give a care.</pre>

* The map that Strong Bad stands in front of while posing marks "Land," "Haggleston," "[[Made-up Places#Place|Place]]," and "Nautical Ocean."
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#the news room|the news room]]".
*This email has [[Nondescript Nouns]] ("Place" and "Land").

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad's written signature can be seen in the HUGE Tube Socks ad, but it is different from his signature in the [[Yearbook Character Page]].
*Stupid Coincidence Magazine costs $9, the same price as one of those glossy fashion magazines that Strong Bad mentions.
*Homestar was considering breaking into male modeling in [[crying]].
*Just like in the e-mails [[time capsule]] and [[dreamail]], Homestar's eyes are placed closer together than normal.
*Strong Bad was seen with a tennis racket with no explanation in a caricature easter egg in [[vacation]], as he also did here.

===Goofs===
[[Image:Modelinggoof.PNG|thumb|"dear MASKING GOOF!!!!!"]]
*When Strong Bad yells "dear STRONG BAD!!!!!" and, "dear MEGHAN!!!!!", the reflection of his head appears slightly above the Lappy due to a masking goof.
*When Homestar holds up the magazine, his image on the cover blinks (this does not happen at the end of the email).
*In the email screen when the "romance novel" comes up, you can no longer click the Lappy to see the "ripple" effect.
*Right after Strong Bad says "letsa do lunch," he holds up the tennis racket, and even though he is in a suit, the arm is bare.
*Strong Bad commits a common usage error, substituting "disinterested" for "uninterested." "Disinterested" means impartial or unbiased, as in a "disinterested" jury or judge. "Uninterested," by contrast, means showing no interest in something, as Strong Bad would be in the situation he describes.
*When Homestar holds the magazine before the end of the email, there is no text other than Stupid Coincidence Magazine.
*When Strong Bad says "Oh, what's the time?" the first time, Pom Pom's camera seems to be slightly obscuring his head.

===Inside References===
*Pom Pom's camera was also in the email [[part-time job]].
*"[[Styles Upon Styles]]" is a retailer previously mentioned in [[animal]].
*Strong Bad dressed up as a ship's captain in [[pizzaz]], minus the turtleneck.
**The turtleneck was the one Strong Bad wore as [[Archibald]] in [[A Decemberween Pageant]].
*The screen with the wooden panels is the [[Balding Man]]'s room from [[Senorial Day]].
*"Skinny blonde girls" were first mentioned in [[theme party]].
*[[Made-up Places#Place|Place]] first appeared in [[different town]].
*When Strong Sad hits his "husky body" it makes the same sound as when he was pegged by kickballs in [[1 step ahead]].
*Strong Bad originally tried to sell [[Soolnds|Strong Sad's feet]] to poachers in [[50 emails]]. However, he was promised $50 for them.
*Strong Bad uses a yellow [[disconnected telephone]] for one of his business shots.
*In the end Easter egg, the "SB" on the red box uses the font [[Fonts#C|Commodore 64]].
*This is the first mention of [[tube socks]].
*Strong Bad references his [[husky head]].

===Real-World References===
*"Got stinkfoot" is a reference to the [[Nintendo#Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES)|SNES]] game ''[[Wikipedia:Parodius Da!|Parodius]]'', in which gaining a power-up will sometimes result in the main character saying "GOT A STINKFOOT?!" out of a megaphone.
**"Stinkfoot" is also the title of a song by [[Wikipedia:Frank Zappa|Frank Zappa]].
*Strong Bad's "oh, look at the time/what's the time" poses during the photo shoot are a reference to the episode "The Prettiest Week of My Life" from the television show ''[[Wikipedia:Get a Life (TV series)|Get A Life]]''. In the episode, "Gee, I wonder what time it is" is one of the poses Chris is taught at "Handsome Boy Modeling School".

===Fast Forward===

*Strong Bad is later seen writing to and apparently showing affection for tube socks in [[Decemberween Short Shorts]].
*The music from the photoshoot and some of Strong Bad's quotes are used in the photobooth in [[SBCG4AP]].
**The music would also be used during [[Peasant's Quest Outtakes]].
*Strong Bad's intro is later used as the basis for [[Please Stop Trying to Handle My Style]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
'''Commentary By:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]]

'''MIKE:''' I'm joined by my brother Matt for this commentary.

'''MATT:''' Oh yeah—

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. Have you ever done any modeling, Matt?

'''MATT:''' I have not, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Any hand modeling?

'''MATT:''' No. No hand modeling.

'''MIKE:''' Any voice modeling?

'''MATT:''' I guess.

'''MIKE:''' Let's see— Do a pose. A voice pose.

'''MATT:''' ''{falsetto indistinguishable}'' 

'''MIKE:''' Yeah that was good.

'''MATT:''' ''{falsetto}'' Runned.

'''MIKE:''' Good.

'''MATT:''' R-U-N-N-E-D

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' I sing that "Can you handle my style no you can't handle my style" song a lot. I think maybe I sang it ''before'' it was a Strong Bad Email song even.

'''MIKE:''' Probably.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' You tend to sing songs with lyrics that have "style" in them.

'''MATT:''' Styles upon styles, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' Sounds like he says Bushido, that game.

'''MIKE:''' I like that background.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that's very nice. It looks like he's in that Teen Steam, Alyssa Milano workout video.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' ''{singing}'' Teen Steam—

'''MATT AND MIKE:''' ''{singing}'' gotta let it out.

'''MATT:''' That's a disconnected phone Mike.

''{pause}''

'''MIKE:''' Uh, he penciled you in, just like he said he would.

'''MATT:''' That, Strong Bad needs to—

'''MIKE:''' I like the sailing—

'''MATT:''' Yeah, have that cable knit sweater. He looks so warm. He looks like the Gortons fisherman.

'''MIKE:''' Was he wearing that in the play, in the Christmas pageant— where he was— where he and Bubs where going by the wharfs?

'''MATT:''' The docks?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, down by the docks?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I don't think so. ''{pause}'' I think we drew it for this one.

'''MATT:''' So this had a unique thing. ''{voice cracks slightly, and he makes a yodeling noise}'' This has a unique thing where—

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, people think these were the Easter eggs.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, it's kinda— it seemed like— It seems they should be, I feel like.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, in retrospect, maybe we should have—

'''MATT:''' You're not really paying attention to all this funny stuff he's writing, because stuff keeps popping up over it. Even though the things that pop up are equally funny. I think.

'''MIKE:''' I think there was just so much talking, we were afraid it would get boring visually because he just sits there and talks for like two minutes at the end of the email.

'''MATT:''' He's checkin' emails like it's 2002. ''{pause}'' That is a distr— that is a hard to look at— dame. With some hard to look at teeth.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' Cause yeah, if he's a parson, right— isn't a parson a clergyman?

'''MIKE:''' Of some kind. I would assume so. He married Frosty.

'''MATT:''' Oh yeah. Err, no, Parson Brown will — uhh, no. A snowman is in ''Let it Snow'', I think, isn't it?

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah.

'''MATT:''' "In the meadow we can build a snowman"

'''MIKE:''' I thought you and Frosty got married by Parson Brown.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, whoa— ''{Strong Bad voice}'' Huttah huttah.

'''MIKE:''' Remember the diskette back there—

'''MATT:''' Listen! Listen!

''{they listen}''

'''MATT:''' Aw, he didn't— When did he do that? Isn't there a part where he pats his belly —

'''MIKE:''' It may have happened before.

'''MATT:''' and it makes the basketball sound. Oh. I like that one.

'''MIKE:''' I was— ''{ends abruptly}''

=== Fun Facts ===
*Matt mentions [[Styles Upon Styles]].
*Parson Brown was a character mentioned in "[[Wikipedia:Winter Wonderland|Winter Wonderland]]" by [[Wikipedia:Felix Bernard|Felix Bernard]] and Richard B. Smith, from which Matt recites a line. As was mentioned by Mike, this was the basis of a character of the same name in the [[Wikipedia:Rankin/Bass|Rankin/Bass]] special ''[[Wikipedia:Frosty's Winter Wonderland|Frosty's Winter Wonderland]]'', who helped Frosty the Snowman get married.
*[[Wikipedia:Bushido (role-playing game)|Bushido]] is a role-playing game set in [[Wikipedia:Feudal Japan|Feudal Japan]], in which one plays the role of a samurai warrior.
*[[IMDB:tt0268682|Teen Steam]] is a workout video [[Wikipedia:Alyssa Milano|Alyssa Milano]] starred in when she was 15.
*The "Christmas pageant" that involves wharfs that Mike talks about refers to [[A Decemberween Pageant]].

==See Also==
*[[Products from modeling]]

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|132|4027}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

Strong Bad Talker

Loafing — Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:22:57 GMT

Loafing: Reverted edits by 114.77.119.21 (Talk) to last revision by DeFender1031

[[Image:strongbadtalker.PNG|thumb|The secret Strong Bad Talker]]
The '''Strong Bad Talker''' is an Easter egg on the [[Homestar Talker]] that features {{Film|Strong Bad}} in a talker game rather than Homestar Runner.

== Words ==
{|
|- valign="top"
| style="padding-right:3em" |
*beat
*to
*out
*am
*[[total]]
*a
*is
| style="padding-right:3em" |
*nothing
*[[crap]]
*[[Holy Crap|holy]]
*can
*the
*guy
*loser
*[[competition]]
| style="padding-right:3em" |
*brother
*[[The Brothers Strong|strong]]
*[[Strong Bad|bad]]
*[[Strong Mad|mad]]
*[[Strong Sad|sad]]
*stupid
*[[Contests|champion]]
*[[homestar]]
|
*win
*of
*[[Lowercase i's|i]]
*get
*my
*but
|}

== Easter Eggs ==
*Making Strong Bad say "but [[homestar]] can win the stupid competition" will unlock the [[Strong Bad Main Page]].

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
*Strong Bad has his modern design in this game, since [[The Brothers Chaps]] modified his face to look like he does today, but he still has his original voice.
*The original phrase to unlock the Strong Bad's Room Main Page was "Homestar is nothing but a total loser."
*Strong Bad's "nothing" is from (or is very similar to that in) [[In Search of the Yello Dello|In Search of the Yello Dello]].
*Strong Bad's "competition" is from (or is very similar to that in) [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].

=== Glitches ===
*If you click and hold the words, Strong Bad doesn't move his lips. This also lets you make phrases without losing stars. When you let go, he will move his lips, unless the cursor is not hovering over the word.
*If you click a word repeatedly in fast succession, each click adds a simultaneous voice track, creating an echo effect.
*Clicking on "loser" in the Strong Bad Talker will neither gain nor lose any stars.
*Hitting fast-forward while right-clicking accesses the Strong Bad Main Page.

== See Also ==
*[[Coach Z Talker]]
*[[Homestar Talker]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:talky2.html|play Homestar Talker]]
*[[HR:talky2.swf|play Homestar Talker (Flash file)]]

[[Category:Games]]

User talk:Loafing

Loafing — Wed, 24 Aug 2011 06:29:20 GMT

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== Hall of fame edit summaries ==

here's one that's very funny when taken out of context: http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&diff=439985&oldid=439982&rcid=392035 [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 21:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
:Nice one. Not quite HoF material, though ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:26, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
::Holy gorsh! I need to be paying more attention to what I put in my edit summaries! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Nah matt man, it's all good. It's just when i saw it in RC all i saw was that and started cracking up. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

What about this one? [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Prawns&curid=17450&diff=445668&oldid=445443&rcid=397826 (→Merge - and I like reruns of Arrested Development on TV ... er, I mean... reply!)]
:Yes, I saw that. Maybe if I liked that show too ;-) Keep try.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Scoreboard&curid=23141&diff=456718&oldid=456715 here's one by Jay] that I thought was cool. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I must admit... I was kind of waiting for you to put me there. Ha! [[User:70.239.222.30|70.239.222.30]] 21:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

:That's cheating, then! ;-) I was kind of wondering if I should wait until you get an account, though :-p{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
::Mac/H*R Irony: I typed in for the summary earlier "You won't believe this, the CHATPA says "compy386" this must be a sign from The Brothers Chaps. Oh God, this can't be good." and I told my computer to speak (not verbally, I used the key command I programmed in the system preferences) it with the TTS (Text-To-Speech Engine) it has nothing came out, and later fans were at full blast. Speech Synthesis Server (the name of the process, which acts as an application) was taking up 100% of the CPU, and my computer's temperature was over the limits (that I heard) that could start to destroy your computer. The temperature that could start it was 176ºF, and iStat Pro said CPU A (MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo) was at 184ºF! It was able to pop-up dashboard, so I could see the temperature. I had to do a force restart. All of this took about 3 minutes in all. And Now I'm back. Speech Synthesis Server, just made me go "What the?!" Is that CHATPA thing an actual easter egg in it? [[User:70.239.222.30|70.239.222.30]] 22:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Are any of these worthy of going on your page: [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Gender_Confusion&diff=prev&oldid=587027] [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Often_appears_in_the_Homestar_Runner_universe&diff=prev&oldid=586912] [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Podstar_Runner&diff=prev&oldid=587151] {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 16:27, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Wait. Isn't ''trying'' to be in the hall of fame defeat the whole purpose of Loafing having it? I mean, c'mon. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 19:59, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

==YAY!==
I'm finally on your Hall of Fame. It isn't exactly me, but... heck yes!! --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
:{{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Cool_Tapes&diff=445285&oldid=445278 Nope!}} You're absolutely right. That's what I get for editing at 7:44am running on little to no sleep. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

==That Loafing==
That Loafing is a computer genius man. [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]]
:He sure is ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

== Hey Loafing... ==

Is it o.k. if I borrow the idea of the hall of fame, but instead use talk page quotes? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 16:01, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
:Sure, no probalo ^_^{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:41, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks for the invite ==

In reference to [[User_talk:72.205.55.200 | the comment you left]] - Invitation accepted :) - Looking forward to working more on the subtitles project {{User:Nebulon/sig}} 07:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:You're very welcome. And welcome to the wiki (again)! I'm glad you joined. And great sig! :-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== Name....? ==

Hey, it's me. I was wondering if I could possibly change my name on here. I know if I [[montage|creat]] a second accound, it would be considered sockpuppetry. I decided to come to you, one of the many sysops on this wiki and ask if I could change my name. Please get back to me. -{{User:Cool Tapes.exe/sig}} 
PS: Post the reply on my talk page. Thanks!

== Why? ==

Why do you keep deleting my welcome post on Kittyslasher's talk page? I'm just trying to help. {{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}}
:I can answer that. He is vandal and we don't welcome vandals. I welcomed a few vandals not even knowing that they were already vandals. Please see the block log or on the deletion log if you want to see if you welcome a vandal. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:Ah, I was just about to post on your talk page. I'm sorry, but that particular user is a vandal who has been blocked from editing forever. I do appreciate that you welcome new users, and I do know that it's confusing that some users should not actually be welcomed. I had the same problem when I started! Only very few users are vandals, and it's usually safe to welcome everybody. If you see that a new user has not been welcomed for quite a while (maybe an hour or longer), then you might want to check [[Special:Log/block]] to see if he or she has been blocked. Don't let this spoil your mood, it's no big deal! :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 13:34, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks a LOT, guys. I had no idea that guy was a vandal. {{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}}

== Pfargtl pic. ==

Thanks for uploading a better one. I was trying to do five things at once on the toon's article and the screenshot was one too many, I think.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 10:42, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:Hey no worries. You actually beat me to the image by a few seconds. I was in the process of uploading a screenshot of the "DVD menu", but your idea was better ;-) Good jorb with the transcript(s)!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:44, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. This one wasn't too hard. It's so short.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 10:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

== revert ==

I don't understand. My comment re: the VA Tech tragedy was sincere.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I'm sure it was. It's just that you're already the second editor to mix up '''Georgia''' and '''Virginia'''. ;-) And apart from that, it's not quite article talk page appropriate, as the talk page is for discussing article content. Keep on tranglin'! {{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:16, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
:At least you're not the only one Byanc! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:28, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

== Subpages ==

Loafing, I've seen other people make subpages that I don't think fit the H*R Wiki and they never get deleted. Do you think many admins just never notice or that I'm wrong about the Wiki policy. (Also, I might not do TODs anymore. I can't think of many good ones.) {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
:That is a very good point. There are many subpages that really shouldn't be there according to our policy, and I have been meaning to bring this up for a while now. It's just a lot of work, and so I've so far concentrated mainly on new subpages. And really, only policing subpages is no fun, so I'm mostly doing other things, as I guess most other users will do, too. Apart from that, I like Trey's response on your talk page, and his post [[HRWiki_talk:User_space#Uploaded_images_subpages|here]], which must have been inspired by your question. And hey, you might have a good idea for another TOD tomorrow or next week. Never say never ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:36, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

==i has a deletion==
Hey Loafing. I was wondering if you can delete my "i has a crayon" personal image on my userpage. Instead of that, I am doing a Nintendo challenge like Trey. (with permission) So, if you could do that for me, it would make me happy. ;-) Keep on tranglin, {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
:I has a deletion!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:43, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks man. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:45, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Just how did you delete my personal image, Sprinkles (Barfalamue).jpg? I don't see how. {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 01:13, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
:You don't see how because only [[HRWiki:sysops|sysops]] have access to the delete button. (Incidentally, this should probably have been a new section at the bottom of Loafing's talk, not part of one that's over a year old.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:11, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

== It's a new drill! ==

[[Image:bellybutton.PNG|thumb|Oh, awesome!]]
Happy birthday! Here's a drill. Keep on doin' great stuff for the wiki and vanquishing that thesis! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:56, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
[[Image:50cake.PNG|thumb|left|Threw it at Strong Sad, but it's still good]]
:Yeah, Happy B-Day Loafing. I get to say Happy birthday to you all day. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 23:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::''Note to self: Loafing doesn't suck.'' Happy birfday, Loafing! Keep on doing that sysop thing... that you do... {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:06, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Happy Birthday Loafing! Happy Birthday! Okay that wasn't very original. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Happy Birthday Loafing! May you always keep helping me out with all the stuff I don't know! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:49, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::Awww, thanks a lot, you guys. Hmmm, a power drill and a cake... the plausibilities are endless!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::Happy birthday, man! I wish you that your New-Zealand gravity boots won't fail you and you won't fall from the earth for a whole year! :) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:06, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Happy Loafday. Have a time! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::::It's my birthday in a few days! :) {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 07:07, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

== Pumpkin Carve-nival ==

Did you think that was a legit idea to make the transcript more accurate? Please reply at [[Talk: Pumpkin Carve-nival#Strong Bad as Homestar]]. Sorry if this annoys you; I am not intending to. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:24, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
:If you don't know I was referring to the quotation mark thing. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

== Did you just... ==

The n00bity of this question is intense, but did you just...block yourself? It's been a long time since I've seen a vandal blocked, but it DOES say that Loafing blocked "User:Loafing" with an expiry time of infinite...{{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 22:51, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I've been suspicious of that Loafing guy for quite a while. He's a shady fella. Or maybe I was distracted and clicked the wrong link. History will decide! ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:53, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
::I'm gonna find some way to preserve that for posterity, maybe even prosperity.{{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 22:55, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
:::So then I grabbed <strike>the Blue Laser</strike> Loafing by his collar and said, "You betta block yourself!"--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 05:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
::::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&page=User:Loafing He]'s [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&page=User:DorianGray not] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&page=User:FireBird the] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&page=User:Trey56 first] to hit the wrong button accidentally... (or [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&page=User:Thunderbird_L17 intentionally]...) and he won't be the last. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

== DELETED ==

I don't want this [[User:Homestar-winner/navbar|navbar]] for my user page anymore. Could you delort it? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 10:53, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:Sure. It's still [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Homestar-winner/navbar used] on your user page and your talk page, though! Are you sure you want me to delete it immediately? Also, a tip for the future: if you want one of your subpages to be deleted, put <nowiki>{{delete|No longer needed}}</nowiki> at the top, and it will soon be deleted by a sysop. So, just let me know if it's really OK to go ahead, and I'll delort it! Oh, and keep up the good work on the wiki! :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:40, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Homestar-winner&diff=466971&oldid=466417 Done] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Homestar-winner&diff=466972&oldid=465752 done]! Thanks Loafing! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:::No probalo!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:03, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

== Png guy checks talk page ==

<blockquote class="lappy email"><div>
subject: Optimizing PNGs</div>
Png Guy 
Welcome to the Homestar Runner Wiki 
Good jorb with optimizing those PNGs! 
Which tool are you using? 
 
{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:17, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
</blockquote>

'''PNG GUY:''' I use an exe called PNGOUT[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pngout] which was created by the Ken Silverman, creator of the Build engine used in Duke Nukem 3D, amongst other games. PNGOUT is excellent at optimizing PNGs if you use the right settings. Unfortunately, it doesn't check EVERY possible combination of settings for the smallest file size. That part I have to do myself. Well, there's your answer. [[User:Png guy|Png guy]] 03:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks for the reply, that's really a cool tool. I've just tried it with [http://brh.numbera.com/software/pnggauntlet/ PNGGauntlet], which tries out a set of combinations to find the best one. Oh, and usually, you should just reply on your talk page. Normally, I;d move this discussion back to your page now, but the "checks talk page" idea is so cool, i'm'a gonna go ahead and not touch it ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Welcoming ==

Uhh... sorry for constantly questioning you sysops... but why didn't [[User:Schaedenfreud82|this guy]]'s [[User talk:Schaedenfreud82|talk page]] have the automated
welcoming tips and you welcomed him instead? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:39, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:He/she [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Schaedenfreud82 joined] in March, nearly two months before we started doing the automated tips. So <s>someone from</s> the welcoming committee must have overlooked him.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:44, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== One heck of a guy ==
<blockquote class="lappy email"><div>
subject: One heck of a guy</div>
Loafing 
You are one heck of a guy 
being one of the best sysops on HRWiki 
thank you for being so cool, 
 
{{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 01:31, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
</blockquote>

==Well okay then==
My plan was to make an account that you or any other sysop could use to block people so people couldn't flame ypu whwn you blocked them[[User:Zorc|Zorc]] 00:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:Did what ya said on my talk page Hopefully you can't read french cause BAISE![[User:Zorc|Zorc]] 00:34, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
::Oh come on respond already!

== Talk pic ==

How do you get a pic for your Talk button thing? I guess I never really learned when everybody started doing it on here.
Yours is a loaf of bread. That's what I'm talking about. [[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro]] 16:57, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thank you for fixing my user boxes and responding to my comment on[[Talk:Inkhole Interview]][[User:Randomnerd10|Randomnerd10]] 19:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== With lack of a better title... ==
Since you are always voting '''delete''' on my articles.(The bad ones, at least.) I figured you would know what a necessary or unnecessary one would be. Anyways, should I make [[Squinting]] on account of Strong Bad doing so to read long or unclear words. {{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}}
:I'm gunna go ahead and give my two cents. Squinting is a natural function of the human body when reading long or unclear words, therefore, I don't think it merits a page. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 22:11, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
:SantanaHomerunner, I do appreciate your eagerness to contribute to the wiki. However, you often create new articles too quickly. Next time, before you create the article, check if this is already covered elsewhere (as for example with [[Basketballs]]), ask yourself if this would actually make for an interesting article ([[Squinting]] is for example a very normal thing to do, so it's not very notable). Also, make sure you go through the points listed in our [[HRWiki:Inclusion guidelines|inclusion guidelines]] to see if that article would have a chance. You've created 2 decent articles, which is much more than most new users can say, so you really don't need to stress. However, 15 (!) of your articles have turned out deleted, redirected or will soon be. You need to make sure that you'll be more productive, as it is a lot of work for everybody to discuss those articles. Keep an tranglin'!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

== user gift.From a friend. ==

I made a userbox for you.Hope you enjoy it!

{|

{{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=JOSH|msg={{User:Loafing/sig}} is just like Chaosvii7's friend,Josh because he's tough and comedic at the same time.}}

|}

{{User:Chaosvii7/sig}} 06:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Lol, thanks. I feel like a soft barrel full of monkeys on the inside, now ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:00, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

== Invitation ==

Greetings User LOAFING!If you've kept up with current events,I am releasing a story on a wedsite,and putting the link on my user page.On my talk page,there is going to be a party held in honor of said event.I hope you can make it to the talk page party.The party will starty at 8:00 PM EST Friday night.It will last an hour,at which the talk page will return to normal.Hope to see you there!

{{User:Chaosvii7/sig}} 02:29, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

== Vandalism? ==

What do you think of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=video_games&curid=1114&diff=483427&oldid=481482&rcid=439011 this]? I started wondering after DeFender1031's [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=video_games&curid=1114&diff=483428&oldid=483427&rcid=439012 edit summary] when he reverted it. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:53, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
:I didn't know what to make of it either, hence the question rather than a statement. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:55, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
::So far, the anonny has had decent contribs. It might have been a mistake or a glitch. Not sure. We'll see what happens.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:57, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Looks like they ran it through an online translation site. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 02:26, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Shwoo, i immediately thought of something like babelfish, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:202.76.162.34&diff=483440&oldid=481559&rcid=439024 here] i mentioned a "literary scrambling script". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:27, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

== Also about Vandalism ==

What has [[User:68.124.67.66|68.124.67.66]] done wrong? I saw you gave him a [[User talk:68.124.67.66|block warning]] a couple days ago. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 02:35, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:Go to that block warning link, hit History, and read the summary. He explains why. (And laugh at Loafing's screwup of posting it on the user page accidentally.) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:42, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
::yes, we all laughed. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:43, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:::So long as we all see the value in a good edit summary: you can laugh at it later. No, wait. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
::::[[Wikipedia:Nelson Muntz|''Ha''-Ha!]] But I still don't get what edit the annony made that was vandalism. Could [[bottom 10|Simone]] please give me a link to the edit he made that was vandalism? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 02:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::It was not vandalism, it was, as noted, trolling. That is, the posting in a thread solely for attention. Read the thread cited to see what we're talking about. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Symbols? ==

I was thinking about creating a page, when I thought, before I get [[wikipedia:blocking shots|stuf]][[HRWiki:STUFF|fed]], (Get it?) I should ask you because you seem to really understand the Wiki. Should I make [[Symbols]]? It would tell about different symbols used in the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. Kind of like [[Fonts]]. It could also tell about when something like ♥ replaced "love" or something like that. Is there already a page that relates? Is it unecessary?--{{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}} 23:11, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
P.S. Your my new page consultant.
{|{{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00CC99|codebkgd=#000000|codecolor=#FF0000|code=EPC|msg=This user is [[User:SantanaHomerunner|SantanaHomerunner's]] '''''exclusive''''' page consultnat.}}
|}
:I gotta-nother: [[a-]] on account of a-the cheat or that one at the end of [[monument]]. Or [[mumbling]].--{{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}} 19:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

::Lol, thanks for choosing me as your page consultant. I charge $5000 per suggestion. Anyway, I strongly advise you to overthink these ideas. While these are certainly real occurrances, you need to think if anybody would actually be interested in the articles. [[mumbling]] for example is neither funny nor out of the ordinary. I'm also not so sure about your other suggestions. [[a-]] is for exmple something that really only Strong Bad does, so a whole article on it might be too much. You know, you don't ''need'' to create heaps of new pages if you want to contribute to the wiki. Gnome work is very much appreciated, too :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:05, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

:::I will take that into consideration, but I want to inform you that I went ahead and made [[Stew]]. I was very confident in my idea. But I have another one: [[Mining]].--{{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}} 23:11, 8 August 2007 (UTC) P.S. What about [[Symbols]] from paragragh #1 of this conversation.

::::One more. [[Spring Break]]?--{{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}} 23:35, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::I'm not really convinced by any of these. [[Symbols]] would not really list anything H*R specific, would it? You always have to ask yourself if someone would actually want to read such an article. Not sure that mining is something that happens so often at homestarrunner.com, and there has never been any actual spring break. You should also definitely check out [[HRWiki:Spoons]] and it's talk page. Now, as per our agreement, you owe me $30.000 if I counted correctly. But seriously, I might not be the best guy to ask about those articles. I'm not too sure myself if an article is worth creating. Contrary to popular belief, I'm not all-knowing.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:22, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

== the egg award ==
[[Image:Eguy egg.gif|thumb|left|the egg]][[Image:Annoying_whiner_bird.PNG|thumb|80px|2nd place]]
u won it for showing me that the acount was not deleted

it hatched

:Cool, thanks :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

== Did you just call me insulted? ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Tennis&curid=37108&diff=492342&oldid=492340 I didn't really think that]... No problem! {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 01:03, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
:Haha, just wanted to make sure you didn't get that the wrong way :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

== Yay! ==
You won Person of the Day! I choose you becoase: You clear out the delete log, cool sysop. {{User:Numa Numa/sig}}
:Thanks, I guess...{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:35, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
::That was a long time ago, so I need to make you one agian. You win again. {{User:Numa Numa/sig}}

== Gnomez ==

Hey Loafing. I was scrolling through the block log, and I found that you blocked Gnomez. I was wondering why. It said He/she knew old account Eguy. Does that mean he was originally Eguy. A little confused, {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 13:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:For some reason, Eguy thought his account had been deactivated and created the Gnomez account to edit the wiki. When he found out that his old account still worked, he abandoned the Gnomez account and used his Eguy account again. That's all. He didn't vandalize or anything.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:32, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks Loafing. I was a bit confused. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:42, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

== Wow... ==
You revert EVERYTHING! For that, I'll make a song about you!

L is for Le Reverter

O is for Oh, I dunno!

A is for Artistic

F is for Fun

I is for interactive

N is for Nothing.

G is for Gnomez banner! (Yeah, you banned Gnomez) ~~

:Erm, thanks, Mr. Numa.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

== Somebody deserves this... ==

[[Image:Golden Sub.png|thumb|Congrats! Keep on subtitling!]]
For all your hard work with the subtitles, you deserve to be the first recipient of THE GOLDEN SUB. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 21:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
:Awesomeness! :-D Thanks, bro. I hope my teeth will cope with the gold ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

== Correct Confrontation? ==

I confronted this guy on his talk page and I just want to know if I did it appropriatly. (...or if I mispelled anything...) [[User talk:76.5.105.107|here]]. Mine is the one with this signature:
{{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}} 22:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
:Well, as the edit in question took place on 16 August, over a month ago, it was probably unnecessary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:35, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

== Instructions translation ==

Hey, Loafs. After the [[HRWiki_talk:Subtitles#Localized_templates|localized quick dip pages]] are (hopefully some day) done, do you think that it would be possible/necessary to also translate the text on the local viewer to the language of the subtitles currently viewed? Might seem a bit.. freakish, I guess, but I'm quite passionate about people needing and using my subtitles really understanding everything they should read. Thanks! --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 11:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== Ced tagged his [[User:2Fast2Furious|user page]] and [[User talk:2Fast2Furious|talk page]] for deletion ==

Are you going to delete his things, or do you want him to stay? I think he's a little upset because you reverted his edits. --{{User:Bill Hart/sig}} 14:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:Hmmm, what gives you that impression? That was no big deal, was it? Definitely nothing even close to a reason for quitting. Did he tell you that he was upset by that?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:27, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
::I asked him why he was leaving, to which he responded, "It appears I'm not a very productive user." --{{User:Bill Hart/sig}} 21:17, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes, I saw that. I assumed that he said that because he thinks he's not a very productive user, not because I reverted an edit. I meant if he told you in person.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
''{in [[Strong Mad]]'s voice}'' NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! [[kind of cool]]{{User:Bill Hart/sig}} 21:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Hurr ==

Hey Loafing, Mike here. Just dropping you a line to say Hi and I Found You on HRWiki. I tried to leave you a more subtle hello but someone reverted it :P --[[User:121.72.249.181|121.72.249.181]] 04:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:Haha, yes, it did look very much like random vandalism. Especially with that edit summary ;-) Anyway, thanks for stopping by! Might see you on Friday.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

== Pre-subtitles ==

Thanks, I think I copy/pasted from the page itself, not its Edit text. Hey, everyone's entitled to a moment of stupidity now and then. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Meh, that's hardly stupidity! You can do better (stupider) than that, I'm sure ;-) And you need to be on IRC more often... or at all!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::I don't even have all the plug-ins to do so any more; I switched computers a while ago and it didn't cross my mind recently. Parhaps after subtitling. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Other Little Girl identity? ==

I think I found some YouTube videos of [[Other Little Girl]] (quite randomly, I might add) - [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itix0Hf_G8I here] and a couple of others. It seems that her name is Thea. Do you think it's her? --[[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 05:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

== IRC ==

Why you never talk to me no more? :( We miss you! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:30, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:I'm a few months behind with my PhD, so I'm cutting back on IRC and the wiki. I just can't afford it at the moment, sorry! I'll be back eventually.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:00, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

== Local viewer ==

Whether you may know it or not, there is [[User talk:Sysrq868#Gimme_a_break|a small bug in the local viewer]]. I asked Phlip over IRC, and he said that your XML parser spits out <code><nowiki> </nowiki></code> instead of just <code><nowiki> </nowiki></code> in the HTML generated from the subtitles data. Could you fix this, or take this to someone who could fix it? Thanks! --{{User:Sysrq868/sig}} 11:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Whoops, thanks for pointing that out. It's dot com and I fixed it :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:36, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

== HEY! WHAZZUP? ==

Yo, I made an edit to a page, you reverted it (which is fine, this is why we have Wiki's) but, you posted your reason as "rv. complete stretch". If you could please tell me what that means, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks. {{unsigned|69.250.235.131|23:17, 22 January 2008}}
:Cool, cool! Here's what it means: "rv" means "revert". That's so that people can immediately see the nature of my edit. "Stretch" means that the connection between the quotes from the toon and the movie was exaggerated. The Duke Nukem [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=50_emails&diff=prev&oldid=537749 quote] is (as far as I know) not unique to the game, and even if it was, it's not obvious that Homestar's quote was actually referring to it. It's something that happens all the time, don't let this discourage you! Sometimes, my edits get reverted, I take a step back and think "Oh yeah... it's not ''that'' obvious..." ;-) Keep on tranglin'!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:24, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
::Oh! I thought "Complete Stretch" meant that I stretched out the section of the article to an unacceptable length! Thanks.
:::No probalo :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

==Vandalism==
I found some vandalism here [[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=New_Paper&curid=35317&diff=540310&oldid=540299&rcid=497373]]
{{User:The-homsarrunner/sig}} 03:55, 2008 February 2 (UTC)

== IRC ==

it'd be really cool if you were on irc right now... like RIGHT now... ;-) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:38, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

== Miketigershark ==

Are we going to block [[Special:Contributions/Miketigershark|Miketigershark]]? Or do you have to wait a certain amount of times? Or does he just not know what he's doing? {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
: I don't know why he lasted as long as he did. I guess because his edits were only mildly vandalish or because he had a few real edits mixed in? Whatever the case, he was warned not to vandalize and he's now blocked. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
::I got distracted after reverting, and then was away form my compy for quite a while. I guess it's all over, now.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

== As much as I'd like to go on the forum... ==

I'd probably remove myself from editing anything here in the future if I did. Plus, non-expiring sessions aren't always non-expiring. [[Special:Contributions/66.168.19.135|66.168.19.135]] 12:07, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

== About your revert on TGS 8 ==

I said the trolls' language was a take-off on Klingon, and you said it was too big of an assumption to make. It seemed to be a pretty clear reference to me, even though it may take a few steps to perceive it as such. To me, So and So's death by twelve-sided die makes sense if you see the trolls as nerds in costume, which would also explain why they want So and So's autograph (because of her new Goth look). The fact that they are nerds thus makes it possible that at least one would know how to speak Klingon. In either case, it does bear some resemblence to Klingon, whether coincidental or intentional, so maybe I could have made my edit a weaker yet more acceptable statement by simply saying so. [[Special:Contributions/24.1.72.253|24.1.72.253]] 19:55, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:As you said, it takes a few steps to perceive it as a reference to Klingon. Seeing the trolls as nerds in costume is not something that most editors would agree with, I believe. Trolls and Klingons also don't match, as trolls are fantasy and Klingons are science fiction. It's a rather weak link, and not quite enough to be listed on an article, I'm afraid.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks... ==

...for fixing the link in my subtitles for Answering Machine 10! I will get them right one of these days...--[[User:Cass from Germany|Cass from Germany]] 22:59, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
== Userbox help ==
::::Hey Loafing, could you check out my talk page, I need a little help with a userbox. Thanks {{User:Pacoman/sig}} 23:18, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

== My way cool users list ==
Hey Loafing, for being on my way cool users list you get this:

{|
{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=[[Image:Iron cup of Brunswick Stew.jpg|43px]]|msg=This user is on [[User:Pacoman|Pacoman's]] way cool users list and is being rewarded with an iron cup of Brunswick Stew.}}
|}
Thanks to theyellowdart for fixing it for me {{User:Pacoman/sig}} 01:58, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

==Hey Look, It's Loafing==
*Hey. I just noticed that I haven't really seen you or talked to you (well, here at the Wiki) for a long time. How are you? --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:14, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Are you there, buddy? --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 22:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
::No, I'm not! My PhD thesis is due in 30 hours, so I'm not really supposed to be online at all :-p I'll get back atcha in a few days time :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Gotcha. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 04:16, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
...Loafing? Are you sleeping again? That is your last warning. One more time and it's a lunch detention. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 20:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:Mmmmmh, detention with lunch? Yum. Life is awesome again! I'm no longer a student, and I finally have time to catch up with all my friends. And the wiki. How's things with you? Handing out many detentions these days?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
::Me? Oh, just enjoying the bits of summer freedom. And yes, a lot of people get detentions. I've been missing you on the IRC. You should make the big comeback!! --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 01:29, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
==PhD'D!==
[[Image:sbemail98.png|thumb|Loafing (right) with his girlfriend. (Sorry man, I had to.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:33, 12 August 2008 (UTC)]]
::Wait, did I just hear a "I'm no longer a student?" CONGRATS ON THE PhD, DR. LOAFING.
:::Yay Loafing! You suck a lot less now! u can haz cheesburger--{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 01:29, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:Loafing- grats on the Phd ([[Whatsit|Piled Higher and Deeper]]) in Computer Science... if I went back to School i'd make the attempt myself. If you use that Phd for "EVIL" cause you would have a "Player Hater Degree". --{{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 14:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Right, I should probably put this right. I'm not a PhD yet! I submitted my thesis, but I still have to pass my thesis defense. So keep your [[pants]] on! You can congratulate me all over again in a few months ;-) But thanks anyway :-) And Deffy, that's not what my girlfriend looks like! She looks like [[:Image:Hot lady-type.PNG|this]], only with more pixels. Or was it less?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:45, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

== UK English or US English? ==

Which are you more used to? I highly recommend using American English in your edits. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 01:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure Loafing knows which form to use on this wiki. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:40, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Umm, thanks for your recommendation, 386. I say, old chap, did you have any particular edit in mind?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 18:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

== I wasn't counting Jor-dan. ==

When I counted up the ten previous Dans, I did not count Jor-dan. That would make it eleven. Admittedly, though, I ''did'' count the obscure almost-email in [[2 emails]] since that was on [[Strong Bad Email By Name of Sender|the list]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, OK. Turns out I got it completely wrong, then :-p{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:46, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

== A question about edit summaries ==

Sup Loafing:

Since you are a [[Sysops|system operator]] on the Wiki, I felt comfortable asking you, when you fill the summary box during an edit, how do you make an arrow with a link to the section of the page you edited? Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 02:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:This happens automatically when you hit [edit] next to the exact section you want to edit. You can also force a section link into your edit summary by adding <code>/* Your Text Here */</code> in your edit summary (though it won't link to anywhere unless there's a section called that exact thing on the page). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 02:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
::The edit box starts with something like "/* words */". if you don't delete the slashes and stars, and just type your summary after that, it'll do it for you. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:35, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I didn't have to make a new section as Loafing already had an archive thing. But anyway, thanks so much [[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] and [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]]. This summary thing is coming in handy. Like once Paul Revere said, "you learn something new everyday." I believe thats a life's thought. Bcause it's true. That your bleeding at that moment, you have a basement, and someone smells like [[Strong Bad]]. Although that one is pretty rare. {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 03:44, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Is there... ==

anything specific I can do to help? {{User:Red And Black/siggy}} 19:43, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
:Sure there is! :-) Have a look at [[:Category:Stubs]]. This is a list of all articles that need more info.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:34, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== Flash Decompiler... HELP!!!!!!!!! ==

Do you know how to work one? {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 00:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
:Try Flash Decompiler Trillix. It's easy to use. Every bit of Flash is sorted by Sound, Object, Sprite, etc. Even the hidden or unused stuff. Just click a group and there's all the objects! Click anything in the folder to see it. If there's any "behind-the-black" items, then use the preview window where you can see past the border. This is just a suggestion. I'd recommend it. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 01:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

== "Let the experts create subtitles" ==

Sup there! Long time... How are you doing? Still on that thesis? ;) I didn't want to hijack That'sBupkis' talk page, but I wanted to reply to your comment there. There is an interesting policy page in a wiki I frequent: [http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/MS_Paint_Adventures_Wiki:Sloppy_is_fine Sloppy is fine]. If we leave subtitling to the experts, then we'll have fewer subtitles. The way I see it, if a native speaker watch a toon that have mistakes in the subtitles, then he'll say "Hey! This is wrong! I'll just fix this really quick. Now it's fine." and now the wiki and everyone else have a true correct subtitle. But if there are no subtitles to begin with, the native speaker will say "Hmmm... I don't have the time to make the full subtitles now. I'll leave it to someone else" and nobody gains anything. Now, it's the responsibility of the original editor to put the right cleanup, or native speaker needed, in the first place, let's not forget that. So anyway, I just wanted to express my views here. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 13:05, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, really long time! No, thesis time is over and you know it :-p Yeah, I've had a re-think of my opinion on subtitles. I always thought they should be as perfect as possible because when they're viewed, you can't see the fixtranslation tag. I was afraid that first-time subtitle viewers might be put off by bad quality. Well, that's what I thought when we started with the project and I never thought twice about it. But now it seems that people actually register with the wiki to fix subtitles. I think I saw that at least once. And really, whoever watches our subtitles will probably know it's from a wiki anyway. It seems I was a little over-protective which is something that doesn't really fit in with the spirit of this wiki. Ah well, it only took me a few years to change my mind. That's fast enough, right? ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:11, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Edit summary list ==

I see you haven't updated your favourite edit summaries list in a long time. Here are some more amusing edit summaries: [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Changing_username&diff=609008&oldid=608993] [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=original&diff=676878&oldid=676877] [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Homestar_vs._Other_Little_Girl&diff=698445&oldid=698442] [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Behind_the_Scenes&diff=703293&oldid=703287] {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:Umm, thanks. I haven't updated that list in a while because I'm no longer updating it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:15, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== IRC ==

Could you please come on IRC for a bit soon? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:08, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

== Loafing around ==

http://www.kawaiinot.com/2011/08/19/loafing-around/
Still thinking about you guys from time to time :). {{User:Elcool/sig}} 08:47, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
:Ha, nice. Ironically, I took Kawaiinot out of my daily cartoon bookmarks last weeks ;-) It's just not as good anymore. What are you up to these days? Are you a professional comic artist now? ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
::We miss you guys swinging by IRC from time to time... don't be strangers! ;) And do let us know how you are doing! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:29, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
:::Well, I'm still studying Visual Communications. I stayed back a year, but no biggy. It's summer vacation here, so school doesn't start again for a few months, and then I'll be in my 3rd year. I stopped working at Toys R Us and got a new jorb at a stupid gift shop. Oh! Forgot to tell ya! I have a new girlfriend now :) We've been together a year now. I tried getting her into Homestar, but it's hard when there's no new updates to look for... I'm thinking about making a nostalgic post about the site on my blog, Ganzakh. It's weird being nostalgic for something that ended a year ago, but when I think about it, I got SBEmails in 2003, 8 years ago! So it's weird like that. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 07:55, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
::::I found your blog but it's all covered in weird symbols ;-) Yay for having a girlfriend! We left Christchurch just before all those earthquakes started. We now have a little house in the suburbs and two cats. The only thing we need is a picket fence and we're saving up for that ;-) I can get quite nostalgic about Homestar Runner too. Although I did stop being active a few years back now so I'm allowed. A friend discovered my sbemail DVDs on the shelf a few weeks back and borrowed them from me. And there's a guy at work who uses Trogdor as his avatar. So it's still alive! Stux: I came by the channel but you were away. By the time I find time to log on it's so late that most Americans have gone to bed.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:29, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

User talk:Loafing

Loafing — Sun, 21 Aug 2011 08:42:33 GMT

Loafing: /* Loafing around */ reply

User talk:Tom S. Fox

Loafing — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:51:00 GMT

Loafing: /* Welcome */ still?

Subtitles:sbemail107/de

Loafing — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:28:54 GMT

Loafing: putting captions back in, "O Mann" is wrong

{{subtitles|cheatday}}
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<transcript xml:lang="de" file="sbemail107.swf" width="550" height="400">
<line start="15" end="50" speaker="strongbad">Lesen wir eine Strong-Bad-E-Mail, du und ich. Gemeinsam.</line>
<line start="54" end="86" speaker="strongbad">So wie früher. Wie eine Familie.</line>
<line start="93" end="134" speaker="strongbad">„Lieber Strong Bad, was hast du zu Der Cheats Geburtstagsfeier gemacht“</line>
<line start="137" end="179" speaker="strongbad">Oh Mann! Schon wieder so eine namenlose E-Mail.</line>
<line start="184" end="222" speaker="strongbad">Mal sehen, woher kommst du? Du kommst aus …</line>
<line start="227" end="285" speaker="strongbad">Mike. Control. Hier kommt Mike, er steht am Mike ‒ Control.</line>
<line start="286" end="314" speaker="strongbad">Chiggity, hier kommt Mike, er steht am Mike ‒ Control.</line>
<line start="315" end="343" speaker="strongbad">Miggity, hier kommt Mike, er steht am Mike ‒ Control.</line>
<line start="344" end="373" speaker="coachz">He, das ist ein guter Reim! Wir sollten ’ne Demo aufnehmen!</line>
<line start="377" end="410" speaker="bubs">Ich könnte euer Manager sein. Ich mache Millionen!</line>
<line start="411" end="445" speaker="strongbad">Das lasst ihr mal schön bleiben! Ich brauche euch Deppen nicht.</line>
<line start="449" end="481" speaker="strongbad">Jetzt haut ab und lasst mich Mike Controllas Frage beantworten.</line>
<line start="482" end="503" speaker="coachz">Ja, ohne ihn sind wir besser dran.</line>
<line start="505" end="526" speaker="bubs">Ich kann den Keytar spielen!</line>
<line start="530" end="557" speaker="strongbad">So, wo waren wir? Ach ja, beim Cheattag.</line>
<line start="561" end="596" speaker="strongbad">Also, niemand weiß genau, wann Der Cheat Cheattag hat,</line>
<line start="600" end="635" speaker="strongbad">also feiern wir ihn an dem einzigen Tag, von dem wir genau wissen, dass er es nicht ist.</line>
<line start="638" end="664" speaker="strongbad">Und zwar am Geburtsdatum auf seinem gefälschten Ausweis,</line>
<line start="669" end="742" speaker="strongbad">laut dem er ein 43-jähriger skandinavischer Minenarbeiter namens Ilko Skevüld ist.</line>
<line start="755" end="777" speaker="strongbad">Die Festivitäten beginnen normalerweise damit,</line>
<line start="778" end="832" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">dass mich Der Cheat in den frühen Mittagsstunden weckt und ich ihm ein Geburtsdatumsständchen halte.</line>
<line start="833" end="841" speaker="thecheat">Der-Cheat-Geräusche</line>
<line start="842" end="862" speaker="strongbad">Super … Super Contra.</line>
<line start="863" end="880" speaker="thecheat">Der-Cheat-Geräusche</line>
<line start="924" end="937" speaker="strongbad">Ach ja. Stimmt, stimmt.</line>
<line start="939" end="946" speaker="strongbad" sfx="sfx">Räuspern</line>
<line start="952" end="1040" speaker="strongbad">Lie ‒ ber Der Cheat, heut ist der Tag auf deinem Ausweis!</line>
<line start="1041" end="1108" speaker="strongbad">Und nun geh hoch ‒ unh! ‒ und mach mir Frühstück!</line>
<line start="1152" end="1173" speaker="bubs">He, das ist eine gute Jam! Wir sollten ein …</line>
<line start="1174" end="1188" speaker="strongbad">Raus hier, Bursche!</line>
<line start="1191" end="1227" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Nach dem Frühstück spielen wir normalerweise Ilkos Herkunft zu Ehren</line>
<line start="1230" end="1254" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">ein paar Minenspiele.</line>
<line start="1255" end="1319" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Zum Beispiel ‒ Minen ‒ und ‒ Kohle?</line>
<line start="1342" end="1362" speaker="strongmad">ICH HABE GEWONNEN!</line>
<line start="1365" end="1427" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Und dann, als besonderes Präsent, lasse ich Der Cheat ein paar E-Mails beantworten.</line>
<line start="1454" end="1486">ich will wissen wer besser ist du der cheat oder strong mad? dein freund ryan az</line>
<line start="1487" end="1538">Ja, Mann. Ich nag dir das Gesicht ab. ‒ Der C.</line>
<line start="1544" end="1573">hey sb! was geht? ich hab mich nur gefragt wie deine eltern aussehen. bitte antworte, bridget thornton, co</line>
<line start="1574" end="1608">Ja, Mann. Ich nag dir das Gesicht ab. ‒ Der C.</line>
<line start="1614" end="1641">mach mehr trogdor bittebittebitte p.s zahl es strong sad heim</line>
<line start="1642" end="1676">Ja, Mann. Ich nag dir das Gesicht ab. ‒ Der C.</line>
<line start="1677" end="1714" speaker="strongbad">Oh Mann! „Ich nag dir das Gesicht ab.“</line>
<line start="1729" end="1745" speaker="strongbad">Das wird mit jedem Jahr lustiger.</line>
<line start="1775" end="1828" speaker="strongbad">Alles Gute zum Cheattag, Ilko! Auf dass du niemals eine Staublunge bekommst.</line>
</transcript>
</pre>

Subtitles:sbemail107/de

Loafing — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:23:16 GMT

Loafing: I reckon Keytar is better because it's umgangssprachlich. Umhaengegitarre was wrong in any case http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umh%C3%A4ngekeyboard

{{subtitles|cheatday}}
<pre>
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<transcript xml:lang="de" file="sbemail107.swf" width="550" height="400">
<line start="15" end="50" speaker="strongbad">Lesen wir eine Strong-Bad-E-Mail, du und ich. Gemeinsam.</line>
<line start="54" end="86" speaker="strongbad">So wie früher. Wie eine Familie.</line>
<line start="93" end="134" speaker="strongbad">„Lieber Strong Bad, was hast du zu Der Cheats Geburtstagsfeier gemacht“</line>
<line start="137" end="179" speaker="strongbad">O Mann! Schon wieder so eine namenlose E-Mail.</line>
<line start="184" end="222" speaker="strongbad">Mal sehen, woher kommst du? Du kommst aus …</line>
<line start="227" end="285" speaker="strongbad">Mike. Control. Hier kommt Mike, er steht am Mike ‒ Control.</line>
<line start="286" end="314" speaker="strongbad">Chiggity, hier kommt Mike, er steht am Mike ‒ Control.</line>
<line start="315" end="343" speaker="strongbad">Miggity, hier kommt Mike, er steht am Mike ‒ Control.</line>
<line start="344" end="373" speaker="coachz">He, das ist ein guter Reim! Wir sollten ’ne Demo aufnehmen!</line>
<line start="377" end="410" speaker="bubs">Ich könnte euer Manager sein. Ich mache Millionen!</line>
<line start="411" end="445" speaker="strongbad">Das lasst ihr mal schön bleiben! Ich brauche euch Deppen nicht.</line>
<line start="449" end="481" speaker="strongbad">Jetzt haut ab und lasst mich Mike Controllas Frage beantworten.</line>
<line start="482" end="503" speaker="coachz">Ja, ohne ihn sind wir besser dran.</line>
<line start="505" end="526" speaker="bubs">Ich kann den Keytar spielen!</line>
<line start="530" end="557" speaker="strongbad">So, wo waren wir? Ach ja, beim Cheattag.</line>
<line start="561" end="596" speaker="strongbad">Also, niemand weiß genau, wann Der Cheat Cheattag hat,</line>
<line start="600" end="635" speaker="strongbad">also feiern wir ihn an dem einzigen Tag, von dem wir genau wissen, dass er es nicht ist.</line>
<line start="638" end="664" speaker="strongbad">Und zwar am Geburtsdatum auf seinem gefälschten Ausweis,</line>
<line start="669" end="742" speaker="strongbad">laut dem er ein 43-jähriger skandinavischer Minenarbeiter namens Ilko Skevüld ist.</line>
<line start="755" end="777" speaker="strongbad">Die Festivitäten beginnen normalerweise damit,</line>
<line start="778" end="832" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">dass mich Der Cheat in den frühen Mittagsstunden weckt und ich ihm ein Geburtsdatumsständchen halte.</line>
<line start="842" end="862" speaker="strongbad">Super … Super Contra.</line>
<line start="924" end="937" speaker="strongbad">Ach ja. Stimmt, stimmt.</line>
<line start="952" end="1040" speaker="strongbad">Lie ‒ ber Der Cheat, heut ist der Tag auf deinem Ausweis!</line>
<line start="1041" end="1108" speaker="strongbad">Und nun geh hoch ‒ unh! ‒ und mach mir Frühstück!</line>
<line start="1152" end="1173" speaker="bubs">He, das ist eine gute Jam! Wir sollten ein …</line>
<line start="1174" end="1188" speaker="strongbad">Raus hier, Bursche!</line>
<line start="1191" end="1227" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Nach dem Frühstück spielen wir normalerweise Ilkos Herkunft zu Ehren</line>
<line start="1230" end="1254" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">ein paar Minenspiele.</line>
<line start="1255" end="1319" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Zum Beispiel ‒ Minen ‒ und ‒ Kohle?</line>
<line start="1342" end="1362" speaker="strongmad">ICH HABE GEWONNEN!</line>
<line start="1365" end="1427" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Und dann, als besonderes Präsent, lasse ich Der Cheat ein paar E-Mails beantworten.</line>
<line start="1454" end="1486">ich will wissen wer besser ist du der cheat oder strong mad? dein freund ryan az</line>
<line start="1487" end="1538">Ja, Mann. Ich nag dir das Gesicht ab. ‒ Der C.</line>
<line start="1544" end="1573">hey sb! was geht? ich hab mich nur gefragt wie deine eltern aussehen. bitte antworte, bridget thornton, co</line>
<line start="1574" end="1608">Ja, Mann. Ich nag dir das Gesicht ab. ‒ Der C.</line>
<line start="1614" end="1641">mach mehr trogdor bittebittebitte p.s zahl es strong sad heim</line>
<line start="1642" end="1676">Ja, Mann. Ich nag dir das Gesicht ab. ‒ Der C.</line>
<line start="1677" end="1714" speaker="strongbad">O Mann! „Ich nag dir das Gesicht ab.“</line>
<line start="1729" end="1745" speaker="strongbad">Das wird mit jedem Jahr lustiger.</line>
<line start="1775" end="1828" speaker="strongbad">Alles Gute zum Cheattag, Ilko! Auf dass du niemals eine Staublunge bekommst.</line>
</transcript>
</pre>

Xeriouxly Forxe Visuals

Loafing — Sun, 19 Jun 2011 06:30:24 GMT

Loafing: I'm assuming this was deleted accidentally

{{tbd}}
These are the visuals for [[Xeriouxly Forxe]].

==Transcript==
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=300 | Lyrics !! width=600 | Visuals
|-
|Everybody! E-e-e- || A lightning bolt hits [[Homestar Runner]] and turns him into "[[H. Star]]", with mechanical arms, without his hat, with teeth, and with a smaller shirt. The background turns blue.
|-
|everybody! Everybody! || Cut to [[Strong Bad]] against a red background. A lightning bolt hits him and turns him into "[[S. Bad]]", with a [[Batman]] symbol on his head, a toothy mouth, and tanner skin.
|-
|E-e-e-everybody! || Cut to [[Pom Pom]] against a yellow background, who gets struck and turns into "[[Pom (character)|Pom]]", with pointier feet and hands, and a jetpack.
|-
|Everybody! E-e-e- || Cut to [[Marzipan]] against a blue background. She gets struck and turns into "[[M.Z. Pan]]", with octopus-like legs, a bent neck, and free-flowing hair.
|-
|everybody! Revamped for the 90's! || Cut to [[Coach Z]] against a yellow background. He turns into "[[Zoach C]]", with a bigger "Z" emblem and a visible mouth.
|-
|So much more exciting! || Cut to [[The Poopsmith]] against a blue background, who turns into "[[The Smith]]" (in turn gaining his shovel, which has become a battle-axe), who resembles a dinosaur and has straighter lips.
|-
|Pointy elbows and lots- || Cut to [[Strong Sad]] against a grey background, who turns into "[[S. Sad]]", an elephant-like creature.
|-
|—of lightning! Edgy and angry! || Cut to [[The Cheat]] against an orange background, who turns into "[[Ch8t]]", without limbs.
|-
|So zesty and tangy! There's new- || Cut to [[Strong Mad]] against a blue background, who turns into "[[S. Mad]]", with a bigger mouth and without the "M" on his singlet.
|-
|—demographics when nobody- || Cut to [[Bubs]] against a green background, who turns into "[[Bubz]]", with pointier limbs.
|-
|—asked for it! Everybody! || Cut to [[The King of Town]] against a blue background, who turns into "[[Xing Town]]", who resembles a vampire or a bat and has a visible mouth.
|-
|E-e-e-everybody! Right- || Cut to [[Homsar]] against a yellow background. Although he gets struck, he does not change at all, and he is captioned as "[[Still Homsar]]".
|-
|—now! ||Cut to all of the characters in their [[Xeriouxly Forxe Character Variations|Xeriouxly Forxe forms]], with a logo reading "HSR Xeriouxly Forxe".
|}

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Bug In Mouth Disease

Loafing — Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:21:46 GMT

Loafing: Reverted edits by S Bad (Talk) to last revision by Ngamer01

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[[Image:Bug in mouth.PNG|thumb|"Pom Pom! Santa! You gotta help me!"]]
Homestar swallows a bug and fears the end of the good times while Strong Bad is taped to the TV and Strong Sad searches for "the blue ones".

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, [[The Bug]]

'''Places:''' [[Basement of the Brothers Strong]], [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

'''Date:''' Monday, May 9, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 5:10

'''Page Title:''' Don't...kill...bugs.

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 2}}

==Transcript==

''{In the basement, Strong Sad is watching TV.}''

'''VOICE:''' ''{from TV}'' And that's why come Shakespeare was so awesome.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh! I see now.

''{Strong Bad enters.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Dairy Queen.

'''STRONG SAD:''' I already told you, I don't want to be called that any more! I made a mistake!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh; sorry, Dairy Queen. Anyways, look. I just thought you should know that all your underwears somehow ended up individually priced and labeled in an online auction.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{gets up, runs out of the room}'' Nobody buy the blue ones!

'''STRONG BAD:''' That was too easy. Now to settle down for the 24-hour Caleb Rentpayer marathon! ''{changes channel}''

'''TUCKSWORTH:''' Caleb, were you making a little tent out of my jacket?

'''CALEB:''' I am now!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, you make that little tent, Caleb! He's not the boss of you!

''{Cut to the field. Homestar is running along. Cue music beat.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing approximately to the tune of the [[Theme Song Video|Homestar Runner Theme Song]]}'' Hooomestaaar is running. Along. ''{drifting out of time with the music}'' Hooomestaaa—

''{A record scratches as he suddenly stops and starts coughing/spitting profusely.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Agh! I swallowed a bug! Bug swallow! Bug swallow! What do I do? What do I do? ''{composes himself}'' Okay, okay, calm down. Calm... down. Remember health class. A-hem.

''{Homestar goes down on one knee.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{slowly and deliberately}'' Sir or madam, are you all right? Do you need medical resistance? ''{anguished}'' Oh, it's not working! The good times are over! ''{runs off}''

''{The music starts up again and cut to another part of the field, where the King of Town and Pom Pom are eating ice cream bars.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I keep telling him the sun don't rise and set on that pile of whatsit, but he don't want to listen!

''{Homestar runs in.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pom! Santa! I think I swallowed a bug!

''{He kneels down in front of the King of Town.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' The good times are over! You gotta help me out! I could die!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Well, what do you want we should do?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Gimme them dang ice creams! ''{grabs the ice cream bars}'' We'll freeze 'im out! ''{quickly eats them}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Doo! That stuff's prescription!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sobs}'' Oh-ho-ho, it deliciously didn't work!

''{While saying this, he pokes Pom Pom with the one of the leftover sticks. Pom Pom narrows his eyes at Homestar, annoyed.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Agh! ''(runs off}''

''{Cut to the basement, where Strong Bad is still watching TV.}''

'''CALEB:''' You throw like a girl, Tucksworth.

'''TUCKSWORTH:''' Caleb, that suitcase was heavy!

''{Strong Sad enters.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' What online auction? I can't find anything. I even did an image search for "the blue ones" and got nothing. Or... nothing pleasant, anyway.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, keep searching. Try putting stuff in quotes or something. Or use "and" and "or". Oh, yeah, "and" go away.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{smiles}'' Oh, Boolean operators! "Blue ''and'' ones"! Good idea! ''{walks off}''

''{Cut to Bubs' concession stand. Bubs is burning an envelope labeled "EXHIBIT A" with a lighter.}''

'''BUBS:''' This is just fine!

''{Homestar runs in. Bubs drops the lighter and throws away the envelope.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Bubs, you're a doctor, right? I think a bug flew into the side of my mouth. I'm afraid the good times are over!

'''BUBS:''' A doctor, eh? I think I might be one of those. Let me take a look. ''{examines a wad of his business cards}'' Whadda we got here? Bail bondsman, paranormal investigator, normal investigator... Oh, here we go! "Dr." Bubs! Let's take a look atcha.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aaaaah. ''{opens mouth}''

'''BUBS:''' Hmm… ''{peers inside}'' Okay...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{gurgles "Okay..."}''

'''BUBS:''' Yes, yes.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{gurgles "Yes, yes."}''

'''BUBS:''' Interesting.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{gurgles "Is it good?"}''

'''BUBS:''' I've got terrible, terrible news, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, no! Is it about the good times?

'''BUBS:''' I'm afraid you've got no pancreas.

''{Homestar looks annoyed}''

'''BUBS:''' But I do happen to have a fresh one for sale right here!

''{Bubs picks up a cooler (brand named 'coola') labeled "EXHIBIT B" and places it on the counter}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Bubs, are you an unethical quack?

'''BUBS:''' The most quackinest!

''{Homestar looks surprised.}''

''{Cut to the basement, where Strong Bad is watching TV with a fork in his hand and a skillet in his lap.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{imitating Tucksworth}'' Strong Caleb, did you make the best omelette ever during the commercial break? ''{imitating Caleb}'' I sure did.

''{Homestar runs in.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad! I think I—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''(silencing him}'' Ah-ah-ah! Not today, McDorkle.

''{Homestar leaves and then jumps in from the other side.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad! I think a bug might have—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?

''{Homestar leaves.}''

'''TUCKSWORTH:''' Why aren't you breathing, Caleb?

''{Homestar pops up from behind the couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad—

''{Strong Bad hits him in the face with his skillet.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ugh. ''{falls down}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' And coming up next on ''Caleb Rentpayer'', find out ''who'' shot Caleb.

'''STRONG BAD:''' "Who shot Caleb?" Oh, there's ''no'' way I'm missing that one. ''No way.''

''{Fade to black. Some time later, Homestar emerges from behind the couch. The couch is empty.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{yawns and smacks his lips}'' That was a great skillet-nap! Thanks, Strong Bad. Strong Bad?

''{Cut to the TV, where Strong Bad has duct-taped himself to the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{somewhat muffled}'' Can't... miss... any of... the action!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad, the good times are over! I swallowed your computer!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You ''what''?! ''{tears his head from the TV}''

''{TV music stops.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, I mean a small bug. I swallowed a small bug.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{dejected}'' Aw. Now my head's not taped to the TV.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad, I really need your help.

'''STRONG BAD:''' And ''I'' really need to find out who shot Caleb Rentpayer!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, that's easy. I did.

'''STRONG BAD:''' You-ka— w-wha?

'''TUCKSWORTH:''' Homestar Runner... ''{Homestar smiles}'' ...did you shoot Caleb?

''{Homestar appears on the TV, wearing the sunglasses he wore in [[the bet]].}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I sure did.

'''STRONG BAD:''' You traitor! You shot my favorite TV show! ''(throws the remote at Homestar's face}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hiccup. ''{the bug flies out of his mouth}'' Hey, look at that! A little guy. A bug ''did'' fly in my mouth!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh... the good times are ''definitely'' over.

''{Strong Sad runs in, wearing a blue pair of underwear. Strong Bad opens his mouth in surprise. Homestar looks over, but doesn't look a bit suprised.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' The world is saved! I found the blue ooooones!

''{The bug flies across the screen as the toon ends}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*A [[Wikipedia:Logical connective|Boolean operator]] is a logical conjunction describing the relationship between two assertions ('and' and 'or' being primary examples). Some search engines accept them.
*Using quotes refers to putting a multi-word search term inside of quotation marks. Most search engines will respond by searching for the enclosed phrase as a whole instead of the individual words.
*The [[Wikipedia:pancreas|pancreas]] is a large lobulated organ that secretes digestive enzymes and the hormones [[Wikipedia:insulin|insulin]] and [[Wikipedia:glucagon|glucagon]].
*A [[Wikipedia:Bail bondsman|Bail bondsman]] is a person who posts bail in exchange for a fee, usually 10 percent of the total bail.
*A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment.

===Trivia===
*Bubs's [[business cards]] read:
Bubs
Bail Bondsman,
Extraordinaire

pager: 555-7896
beeper: 555-3421

BUBS
PARANORMAL
INVESTIGATOR

EEEEEMAIL: BUBS@BUBS.BUBS

Bubs
Normal
Investigator

"Not Associated with
Bubs: Paranaormal Investigator!!"

"Dr." Bubs

VCR Repair/Fashion Consultant

*Bubs's [[Characters' Contacts|email address]] here is bubs@bubs.bubs, but it was bubs@homestarrunner.com in [[unused emails]].
*"The good times are over!" has been [[Quote of the Week]] twice, though the second time was for only one day.

===Remarks===
*Strong Sad has underwear even though he said he "doesn't really wear clothes" in his [[Strong Sad's Lament|blog]].
*The telephone numbers on Bubs's business cards have the prefix [[Wikipedia:555 telephone number|555]], which is commonly used for fictional numbers in North American movies and television.
* If the cartoon is played frame-by-frame, it shows that no bug or fly ever enters Homestar's mouth.
* Strong Bad claims to have placed Strong Sad's underwear in an online auction despite the fact that most major online auction sites prohibit selling used underwear. An example is the eBay® [http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/used-clothing.html used clothing policy].
* Part of the [[Caleb Rentpayer]] episode (where Caleb says that Tucksworth "throws like a girl") breaks the show's usual format. Whereas a standard episode would usually have Tucksworth asking Caleb if he did/ate/took something and Caleb defiantly stating "I sure am/did", this portion has Caleb speak first. Of course, he's still mean and insulting to Tucksworth.
*This is the first Big Toon since [[The Reddest Radish]] not to include opening credits.
*When Homestar turns around remembering health class, the shadow of the bushes changes.

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad sits on the couch in the first scene, his left eye is slightly mispositioned.
*When Strong Sad turns around in front of the couch after talking about Boolean operators, his leg appears behind [[Remote Control|the remote]] that is on the couch.
*Bubs's "Normal Investigator" card misspells "paranormal" as "paranaormal".
*When Strong Bad is duct taped to the TV, there are five pieces of tape. After he turns around, there are only four.
*In the frame in which Strong Bad's head is turned to the right while looking backwards at Homestar, the grey section is visible on both ends of the tape, but the silver, sticky side is the one which should be showing on the end between Strong Bad's head and the TV.

===Inside References===
*Strong Sad is watching a show about [[Shakespeare]].
*Bubs provided VCR repair in the email [[12:00]].
*The scene featuring Homestar running over darkened hills is similar to [[Old Intro 2]].
*"The most quackinest" may be a reference to [[Pom Pom#Character video transcript|Pom Pom's character video]], the page title of which is "The Most Mackinest".
*''[[Caleb Rentpayer]]'' first appeared in [[secret recipes]]. This is the first time the show and Tucksworth have been named.
*Homestar uses the same sunglasses in the email [[the bet]].



*The phrase "why come" was first used in the [[Yearbook Character Page]], where the description for Bubs reads "That's why come he's so fat."
*Strong Bad comments that he made the [[Best/Worst X Ever|best omelette ever]].
* Strong Bad saying "can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" is an example of [[Gender Confusion]].
* Homestar saying "hiccup" instead of actually hiccuping is another example of [[Fake Sound Effects]].

===Real-World References===
*The title of the toon is based on [[Wikipedia:Foot and mouth disease|foot and mouth disease]], a disease that affects cattle.
*The page title (Don't...kill...bugs.) is a reference to [[wikipedia:Bob & Doug McKenzie|Bob & Doug McKenzie's]] [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000001EPF/qid=1103258200/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/104-4330593-4682322?v=glance&s=music&n=507846 "Great White North" album]. Specifically, it refers to the [http://www.mts.net/~marcz/hosers/elron2.htm "Elron McKenzie"] track, where Doug plays a preacher whose sermon deals with the importance of not killing bugs.
*The "Who shot Caleb?" episode is a reference to the often-parodied [[Wikipedia:Who shot J.R.?|shooting]] of [[Wikipedia:J.R. Ewing|J.R. Ewing]] on [[wikipedia:Dallas (TV series)|Dallas]].
*Homestar overreacting over swallowing a bug is similar to a [[Wikipedia:Seinfeld|Seinfeld]] episode, in which [[Wikipedia:George Costanza|George]] did the same thing.
*When Strong Sad says, "I even did an image search..." he is referring to web sites (such as [[Wikipedia:Google Image Search|Google Image Search]]) which feature search engines that allow searching for pictures instead of web pages.
[[Image:Labeled CRP Background.PNG|thumb|The screen for "Who Shot Caleb?", with video games labeled.]]
*When Strong Bad removes his head from the TV, on the left side of the screen a [[Nintendo#Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES)|Super Nintendo]] is visible, which was a popular video game system in the early and mid-1990s. If Strong Bad is removed via Flash decompiler, a black [[Nintendo#Nintendo GameCube|GameCube]] is also visible. Some [[Nintendo#Nintendo 64|Nintendo 64]] game cartridges can also be seen.
**An [[Wikipedia:Atari 2600|Atari 2600]] can be made out on the right side as well as an [[Wikipedia:NES 2|NES 2]] above the Super Nintendo. In the shadow underneath (and slightly to the left of) the Nintendo 64 cartridges may be the system itself.
**The NES cartridge in the NES 2 is ''[[Wikipedia:Kirby's Adventure|Kirby's Adventure]]''.
*[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Joliet, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.
*The colors on the TV at the beginning of the toon are based on the [[Wikipedia:SMPTE color bars|SMPTE color bars]], a [[Wikipedia:Test card|test pattern]] commonly used by television broadcast stations when nothing is on the air.

===Fast Forward===

*Bugs fly out of Homestar's mouth again in [[hygiene]].
*Strong Bad's line "No way." is used again in an error message on [[SBCG4AP]]

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' I'm going to try extra hard to use good diction and proper grammar during this commentary, Mike Chapman.

'''MIKE:''' You're off to a very good start, brother Matt.

'''MATT:''' Thank you.

'''MIKE:''' That guy on the TV didn't have good grammar now, did he?

'''MATT:''' No. ''{word is obscured by his laughing}'' Hey, this sort of relates to later on when we referred to Strong Sad's soft-serve flip. Do you think that's why he wanted to be called "Dairy Queen" temporarily?

'''MIKE:''' Oh, yeah! ''{chuckling}'' Maybe, maybe! His head looks like a... Dairy Queen ice cream cone!

'''MATT:''' Yeah!

'''MIKE:''' Umm...

'''MATT:''' ''{singing}'' In the land of Dairy Queen,

'''BOTH:''' ''{singing}'' we treat you right!

'''MATT:''' Remember those commercials that used to have the land of Dairy Queen in them? It was like a chocolate...

'''MIKE:''' ''{interrupting}'' Yeah, a chocolate river with, like, a fudge canyon? ''{pause}'' So Caleb Rentpayer is a very good show!

'''MATT:''' I think so! I would like to see a full episode of Caleb Rentpayer and Tucksworth, his butler. So, did— Caleb somehow come into a lot of money, and that's why he suddenly has this butler?

'''MIKE:''' Maybe. You know what I'm just now thinking; I recently saw the movie ''Arthur'' again for the first time in twenty years, and it's sort of similar. Arthur is just kind of this, you know...

'''MATT:''' Vagabond?

'''MIKE:''' Well he's got all this money, but he's not, you know, he's got a butler, but he's not very nice to him—

'''MATT:''' Oh.

'''MIKE:''' And um... sort of, he's not quite as... disrespectful to his butler as— as Caleb— as Caleb is, ''{Matt laughs}'' but the but— the butler's always kind of trying to cover his tracks—

'''MATT:''' Oh, okay.

'''MIKE:''' ...and, anyway...

'''MATT:''' Poor Tucksworth.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. ''{laughs}''

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' Is that the only time that Homestar refers to the King of Town as... Santa Claus? Doesn't he call him Father Christmas, maybe, another time?

'''MIKE:''' Uhhm...

'''MATT:''' Or did we just discuss doing one or the other of those when we made this cartoon?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I think— I don't know; I think that's the only time, Matt.

'''MATT:''' I think it was a toss-up between Father Christmas and Santa.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' Aww.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, Caleb, I'd like to see you throw that suitcase!

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' I remember taking a class on HTML in college and they— they talked all about Boolean operators and how to search for things on the internet using Infoseek or Altavista.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Altavista! Hotbot?

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' I remember—

'''MATT:''' Blue AND ones, NOT red AND ones! I think you could do "not", as well, couldn't you? ''{laughs}'' "This is just fine", Mike!

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' It's the— we all know that Bubs, you know, just wants to rip you off and take your money but this is the first sort of criminal, uh, element that we've seen, or criminal...

'''MIKE:''' I think we... I think there's a misspelling somewhere.

'''MATT:''' Is there? Consul-tant?

'''MIKE:''' Nah, I think we missed it. The wiki told me. ''{laughs}'' Maybe we corrected it already.

'''MATT:''' ''{imitating Homestar's line}'' You got it?

'''BOTH:''' ''{laugh}''

'''MATT:''' That's some good mumbles! I remem— I record— I usually try, if the character is doing something like that, like talking with his mouth open, then I try to do the lines with my mouth open, obviously, and there's other times where Strong Bad's like— ooh! later on in this cartoon! when he's got his face up against the TV...

'''MIKE:''' Right.

'''MATT:''' He's duct-taped his head to the TV, where I, like, mashed my face into a book, I think, and then miked it so I'd be like, "woarh, woarh!", trying to make it as authentic as possible. Want to experience what the characters are experiencing.

'''MIKE:''' We call that, umm... character acting?

'''MATT:''' Method acting?

'''MIKE:''' Method acting!

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' ''{responding to Strong Bad's "Can't you see grandma's watching her stories?"}'' Uhh, she is.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' Things get serious in this episode of Caleb Rentpayer. Who shot Caleb, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' I think I know.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. ''{pause}'' Remember that— there was some game you played on your fingers about who shot J.R.? Like it was this thing that was like, "Who shot J.R.?" and then you, like, made your pinky go away. Then you said, "Who shot J.R.?" and then your ring finger went away. And then it ended up making a gun, and— and you said, "It was me!" ''{makes a sound of a shot}'' I remember, uh... Brandon, that lived in the cul-de-sac behind ours doing that. To me.

'''MIKE:''' Sounds hilarious!

'''MATT:''' It was great! And he had a dog named Dude.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' He did. And I thought it was "dood" as in, "doody".

'''MATT:''' I dooed. I just dooed in the toilet.

'''MIKE:''' I always thought the dog's name was a bad— kind of a bad word.

'''MATT:''' D-O-O-D.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' ''{seeing Homestar on the TV}'' Look, that's our office!

'''MIKE:''' Uh-huh.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' I like the little dotted line that trails from that little guy.

'''MIKE:''' Lemme guess, you made it.

'''MATT:''' No.

'''MIKE:''' You did that.

'''MATT:''' I thought you did.

'''MIKE:''' Nah, I think you did.

'''MATT:''' Oh. I'll quit complimenting the things that I made.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' I don't like the way the blue ones look and I made those very late in the game, and just wanted the cartoon to be done.

'''MATT:''' It's okay. Bye, everybody!

'''MIKE:''' Bye, Matt!

===Fun Facts===

*[[Wikipedia:Arthur (film)|Arthur]] is a 1981 movie starring [[imdb:nm0001545|Dudley Moore]].
*Homestar Runner has never called The King of Town "Father Christmas"; however, in [[A Decemberween Pageant]], Homestar ''played'' The King of Town, and Bubs played [[Dr. Christmas]] (which the King of Town ''almost'' played).
*[[Wikipedia:Method acting|Method acting]] is an acting technique developed by [[Wikipedia:Lee Strasberg|Lee Strasberg]] in the 1940s.
*[[Wikipedia:Infoseek|Infoseek]], [[Wikipedia:AltaVista|AltaVista]], and [[Wikipedia:Hotbot|Hotbot]] were [[Wikipedia:search engine|search engine]]s popular in the '90s.
*The Brothers Chaps' referring to Strong Sad's soft-serve flip is a reference to [[keep cool]].
*Mike notes how Homestar is [[Homestar Poking People|often seen poking]] other characters.

==External Links==
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== Removing links and templates ==

Hello there, Unpronounceable Name. Please do not remove links or templates from pages without a reason. You've been reverted three times today because of this behavior. [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6_Trivia&curid=15732&diff=703138&oldid=703135 Here], [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Xeriouxly_Forxe_Character_Variations&curid=51932&diff=703137&oldid=703127 here] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:userboxtop&curid=18785&diff=703115&oldid=703114 here]. I also noticed that you never use the edit summary. I would be really easy for us to know the reason why you made those edits if you used a summary. If you want, there is an option in your preferences to notify you when you are about to save a page without using the summary box. Thank you, {{User:Elcool/sig}} 18:51, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

== Signature template ==

Your signature template has already been moved to [[User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig]] once – stop creating it at [[Template:gf-sig]]. Signatures belong in your userspace, not in the main template namespace. To use the template in its current location, you can set your signature to <code><nowiki>{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}}</nowiki></code>. Also, the yellow text on the word "Yay" is very hard to read – please consider using a darker colour. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:40, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
:Heads up, I just reverted all that Easter egg stuff with your sig. It went against our [[HRW:US|user space policy]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:38, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

== bit o help there? ==

Sup Gfdgsgxgzgdrc, Im here to give you a couple pointers on a few things. 
1. Span Tags: Whenever you change the <nowiki></nowiki>Color of words. You have to end it with a, otherwise, it'll keep going down the page with that color. If you have more than one span tags, you have to close each of them with a <nowiki></nowiki>, not just a single tag. 
 
2. Templates you keep using: You also seem to be using unneeded templates. IE: [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc&diff=prev&oldid=704202 Edit Remove], [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc&diff=prev&oldid=704084 headline], and [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc&diff=next&oldid=703141 some maner of sig type deal]. 
[[File:Show preview.png|thumb|539px|This one, not that one. We got that? Now gimmie five.]]
3. Show Preview: I've that you have made several consecutive edits to the same page. I'd like to point out the Show Preview button. It's right next to the Save Page button when you edit. You should use it whenever you are making a lot of experimental edits, for example when you are trying to get formatting right, or checking to se if the above templates exist. Using the Show Preview button is quicker and easier than saving and clicking "edit" again, and will keep [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] and page histories from being flooded.
 
 
That's all that I've noticed, but if there's anything thing else, anything at all, please contact me on my [[User talk:Movie magic man|talk page]]. Keep on tranglin -{{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 23:13, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

== Block warning ==

Do you really not get what [[Sbemail 136 Alternate Versions]] is? The Brothers Chaps wrote it. It's not fanstuff. You've been making a lot of edits and templates lately that don't fit on this wiki. I'm sorry the fanstuff wiki was closed out from under you, but that doesn't mean that the kind of edits that were tolerated there are appropriate here. If you're going to disrupt this wiki, you will be blocked from editing. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:16, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:oh sorry {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::Please don't edit carelessly like you tend to, especially on templates. Because templates are used on lots of pages all over the wiki, you should not change them unless you have consensus to do so. In general, your editing seems to be treating this whole wiki as a Sandbox. It's not. It's getting tiring to have to clean up after you. Please stop. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:50, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Since apparently you're not getting it and I '''once again''' had to clean up after you, I've blocked your account for a week. When you come back, you've '''got''' to quit treating this wiki like your personal playground, or you're going to end up blocked indefinitely. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:02, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

== you don't need to. ==

You can type my name by typing <nowiki>{{gf}}</nowiki> or you can call me "gf". --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 00:56, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:Um, no. We can't. That results in all types of broken links that stink up pages.{{gf}} is the result, and that is rather ugly to appear all over. And now your page is full of that. You might want to get rid of those, but that's just me.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 00:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Editing templates ==

Gfdgsgxgzgdrc, you have a habit of making strange and often detrimental edits to templates. Templates are used in many places throughout the wiki, so any edit to them can have far-reaching effects. Therefore, please do not edit templates without first gaining consensus for your change (even then, it's best to allow a user with more experience to make the change). I am quite serious about this, as your edits to templates are proving disruptive. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:Please listen to Heimstern. [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3Apersonal-image-sig&diff=705066&oldid=614180 These edits] are exactly the type he meant. Please don't edit templates before you have discussed the changes on the template's talk page.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:14, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::You still aren't listening. I'm just going to have to block you if you don't quit editing templates, so please stop. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 15:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Two problems with your signiture ==

I hate to say this, but what your signiture currently is does not fit our requirements. First, your sig image is too large in file size. Second, your signiture clutters pages and makes the navigation box all strange. It creates a new subheading, so every time you sign we get a new part in the nav box. See [[User talk:Supuhstar|here for a good example]]. Try to fix that.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 22:16, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== User page ==

Hello. You only get one user page, not links to three halves of one. Laters. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:49, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== Image format ==

Please upload screenshots of Flash animations as lossless PNG files instead of lossy JPEG files. See [[HRWiki:Image use policy]] for further information. Thank you, {{User:LobStoR/sig}} 16:09, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
:Would you also be so kind as to re-upload [[:File:onion_bubs_in_3d.jpg]] in PNG format? Please and thanks. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 17:48, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

== German Subtitles ==

Hi Gfdgsgxgzgdrc, I saw you created [[Subtitles:ccdo7b/de]]. As a native German speaker it is obvious to me that you used an automatic translation tool. The result is very poor and sometimes nonsensical. Please do not use translation tools when creating subtitles (see [[HRWiki:Subtitles#Translating_Subtitles]]). I will add a fixtranslation tag and also remove the paginprogress tag because you obviously have stopped working on it. Thanks for understanding, {{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:35, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page

Loafing — Sat, 02 Apr 2011 04:05:28 GMT

Loafing: /* April Fools' */ good jorb

{{Main Page Talk}}

== Message ==

Earlier this year, it was [http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_37#Edit_shortage suggested] that there be a site notice that asks people to give their opinion on deletion discussions. Should we put up such a message? Not only will this help clean out the Articles for Discussion category, which some pages have been in for over a year, but it may also boost the wiki's edit count, which is quite low these days (that was also pointed out in that discussion). And on a partially related note, is the fundraising drive still going? 'Cause autumn (spring where I live) is over. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:13, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. We may or may not change the name, but the fundraising drive will be going on for the foreseeable future. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:13, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
:I don't really see boosting the edit count as that important, but seeing as a lot of those articles have been in the category for a while, we should do ''something'' to garner attention. Not sure what, though. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 20:01, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

== well the brothers Chaps have returned ==

good to know they have returned ey?

cheers
[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:23, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:I think we are all happy about that! :) {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 17:26, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm skeptical, this could be like the Xeriously Forxe stunt, they might not have another peep fora year.

== Wiki image ==
I noticed the Homestar image in the top left corner (of every page) is just a gif, and a high quality one at that. It's over a megabyte. That's a GB of bandwidth for every thousand people who have to download that gif when they visit the site. I dunno, considering you guys are always asking for donations to help pay for the server, it seems like you could be cutting down a bit by replacing that gif with a light-weight SWF or something. --[[Special:Contributions/184.56.45.155|184.56.45.155]] 03:36, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:Normally it's a [{{SERVER}}{{SCRIPTPATH}}/skins/common/images/wiki-kb.gif small image]. We only use the larger one for a week or two at Decemberween time. We monitored our bandwidth last year and, while it did increase noticeably, it was only a fraction of our overall usage. Besides, we have unlimited bandwidth in our current setup, and it was over a year since our previous fundraiser. Not that a SWF is a bad idea, if only because it would give us more flexibility. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

''See also [[User talk:It's dot com#New Logo|User talk:It's dot com → New Logo]]''

== Stuttering? Stammering? ==

Does anyone else think that we should have a page on characters stuttering/stammering? {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 04:33, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:No. Yes. Maybe. It's hard to answer yes/no questions like this one. If you can come up with enough material, '''be bold''' and create the article. If you are worried about going to a lot of effort for nothing, then at least try and make a case when asking the question. I personally can't think of a lot of stuttering or stammering off the top of my head, though. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 07:08, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::I believe the rule is 3 instances for an article to stay. If you can find three clear-cut, without a doubt, singled out, the only way I know, instances, then just go for it.--[[User:The Swedish Ace|The Swedish Ace]] 16:02, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Our [[HRW:IN|inclusion guidelines]] state that for generic things, we need "at least five to ten appearances" that are "of at least moderate importance to the toon" in most of the instances. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:31, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I don't really think there is a lot of material on stuttering specifically, but on speech difficulties in general. There's really only one character who stutters (Homestar) while there are several characters who can't speak properly (Homsar, Senor Cardgage, among others). [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 4 January 2011
:::::SB tends to stammer when he gets super frustrated with an emailer or flustered... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

== Discussion templates ==

It seems that there have been a few cases where one discussion bleeds onto another page, and certainly there are quite a few cases where conversations have transferred pages. Should we make templates for these occasions, like {{t|discussion-continued}}, {{t|discussion-moved}}, and {{t|discussion-transferred}}? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 20:37, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:After {{p|l={{fullurl:HRWiki talk:2011 Server Move|oldid=717699&diff=prev}} a recent edit}}, I feel like mentioning this again. Should we? In [[Template talk:see|the words of]] [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]], would it spoil the wiki? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 21:14, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
::My opinion now is the same as a month ago: meh. They might be useful, but the formatting is so simple and the wording so straightforward that it's hardly worth making templates. If, like that {{t|see}} template, they went in ''articles'', I might be more in favor, but given the complexity of discussions there's something to be said for the flexibility of ad-hoc notices. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:09, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

== SBCG4AP Trogday 2011 sale ==

It should be noted that a blurb for Telltale's Trogday sale (50% off SBCG4AP) has been included on the Main Pages for January 13th. '''''[[user:Kyojikasshu|kyojikasshu]]''''' 05:26, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

== H*R Content ==

So are we back to one cartoon every 8 months now, or what's the deal? The Brothers Chaps have never really given a formal statement as to what's going on with the site there, here, or anywhere else. We all know the theories - the littlest of tiniest babies are a handful, they're working for Hollywood now, there's a series coming on Cartoon Network - but not once have they ever said "Here's what's going on with the website and why new content is not a priority any more." It's not even so much the lack of new content that's frustrating, it's the total lack of information that's frustrating. Even a conversation with Senor Cardgage would make more sense - at least he'd say SOMETHING. [[Special:Contributions/68.225.171.64|68.225.171.64]] 18:00, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
:We (still) don't know the answer to your question. If we did, we'd have said something already. Please direct all frustration and speculation to the forum — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
::I don't really do the forum thing (I prefer to not give out my non-dj-mankiewicz e-mail that much) but thanks for the response. It's more of a response than the Chaps have given us. [[Special:Contributions/68.225.171.64|68.225.171.64]] 20:56, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Btw, email addresses at the forum are only used for registration and are not made public. In fact, unless there's some kind of problem with a user, most of the time even the admins never see them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:32, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
:::: There's a series by the Brothers Chaps coming to Cartoon Network? I thought they turned down multiple offers to make a TV series. [[Special:Contributions/24.179.158.29|24.179.158.29]] 14:34, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
:::::I'm unsure as to whether TBC are working on anything for Cartoon Network, but if they are, it will almost certainly not be Homestar related. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}} 23:45, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
:::::: *monotone-loud voice* FOOORUM! FOOORUUUM!!! {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 00:07, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

== Visible noses ==

Shouldn't there be a [[characters with visible noses]] page? or a [[lack of visible noses]] page or something like that? I already have a list of characters with visible noses just so you know. ([[1-up]], [[Marshie]], [[Gel-arshie]], [[Mr. Shmallow]], [[Pan Pan]], [[Trivia Time]], [[Strong Mad]] and [[Characters|some more]]) The page will be like [[Lack of visible body parts]].
:I don't think it comes up enough to warrant a separate section on [[Lack of Visible Body Parts]], let alone a separate page. We'd only mention it if it was specifically referred to the character having/[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EP026#Dub_edits not having a nose], which could easily fit under the "Other" section for anyone who isn't Strong Bad or Coach Z. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:29, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
okay thanks! Do you think this is good?
 
Email [[winter pool]] — Pom Pom is seen wearing sunscreen on the spot where his nose
would be. [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 15.2]] — Calls from [[The King of Town]] and a [[Questionable Services|questionable]] surgeon reveal Marzipan had a large nose prior to a questionable surgery. The Cheat also tells Marzipan to blow up her nose. [[Xeriouxly Forxe]] — [[Strong Sad]] grows a trunk (an elephant's nose) [[The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw]] — [[Narrator strong bad]] calls [[Tiny Handed Strong bad]] "Strong bad with sort of a nose". --[[Special:Contributions/206.116.143.157|206.116.143.157]] 18:26, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
:You should just add those lines to the article and find out. If no one removes them, then they're good. If they do get removed, then it can be discussed on the article's talk page (which is a better place to talk about specifics than here). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:42, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
::Those lines already ARE on the article. The anonny seems to still be pushing for a separate article. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:51, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

== Lock the Baleeted Nonsense Article ==

Make sure, due to this friday being april fools. To lock the baleeted nonsense page until april fools is done with. As it was done last year, and I rather liked it. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 22:31, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

== Links expecting archive 40 ==

I know we were ''way'' behind on archiving this page, but some links (maybe just mine?) expect some of these topics to be in [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 40]]. Could we move everything else there sometime so the links don't break? This is a rather large concern for my OCD. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 03:18, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
:Uh, no? Just fix the links. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:59, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

==April Fools'==

I love the new Wiki logo!

Boring. Uh..what's going on here?

LOL

[[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 17:39, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
:Question mark exclamation point

As do I. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 17:46, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
::I don't see anything unusual. Except for a really angry unicorn-like animal on fire. that seems like it's a bit out of the ordinary {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 18:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
:::All I see is a can of soda with a pineapple coming out. IS something wrong with me? {{User:The thing/sig}} 21:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
::::probably not, but i'm a little worried about seeing burning unicorns {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 22:19, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::Well, here's something to be worried about! {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 22:29, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
So, is the logo all there is? No reskin, no letter changing, no ads, nothing? The forum hasn't even been touched as far as I see. This is either the worst or best April Fools prank ever. {{User:JCM/sig}} 01:45, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
:Well, yes. I admit it's kind of low-key, but so is H*R these days. Also, the timing of April 1 was bad this year (today is Opening Day for Major League Baseball, and I'm actually out of town at some games; I decided against doing an all-out prank because I knew I wouldn't be around to monitor it). We had the idea to animate Homestar years ago and only now had the Flash logo to make it work. Sorry it didn't have enough punch for you. We'll see if we can pack more wallop next year. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:32, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
::I think it's really well done :-) Good jorb! We should keep the logo, maybe without audio.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:05, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

User talk:Fatfat

Loafing — Fri, 01 Apr 2011 22:08:58 GMT

Loafing: that was a bit much

User talk:RickTommy

Loafing — Tue, 30 Nov 2010 07:19:01 GMT

Loafing: /* French subs */ how come?

[[User talk:RickTommy/Archive|Archive]]

== Wits' end ==

We have asked you repeatedly not to police the wiki. This means telling other users what to do or how to do it. You simply do not seem to have the knack for when it is appropriate. We've asked you to play fair on the featured article selection page, not to edit others' comments, and not to swear in edit summaries. Yet, things aren't getting better. We don't seem to be getting through to you at all, even after you were blocked for two weeks for disruption. So, I'm going to block you three weeks. Furthermore, I think it would be best if you stayed away from the featured article selection for at least a month. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:48, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Block warning==

RickTommy, if you're warned about being blocked, don't try to fight it by making up a bogus excuse as to why it was necessary to do what you did. Just say sorry and don't do it again. We all know you did it so there is no point fighting it. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:I wasn't denying anything. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::Loafing told you that he might block you, but then you got defensive and said that the edit doesn't matter. Well it does matter. Look, if you ever get a block warning, don't try to fight it, just take the advice you're given. Thanks, {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::You know, Wasd, your behaviour isn't exactly that great either. For one thing, you posted that comment in the first place, despite the fact that it '''''does not''''' belong on that page. For another, you have posted messages in talk page archives, as you have done with my talk page as well as Heimstern's. For another, you warn users about things that they did months ago. For another, you do that to users who haven't edited for months. For another, you post signature length messages on other users' talk pages, despite the fact that 1) you shouldn't expect a response from those users, since they haven't edited for months, and 2) the signature length may only apply to your computer. And for another, you're enforcing policy by doing some of those things. I have been blocked before for trying to enforce policy, so don't be surprised if you end up being blocked as well if you continue doing that sort of stuff. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Please, people, let's break this up. And I'm mainly speaking to Wasd here. Whatever disputes RickTommy has with the sysops and whatever warnings we give him are none of your business. Please attend only to your own behaviour. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

==Support==

RickTommy, you're a cool guy. Keep it real bro. High fives, — [[Strong Bad]]
:Thanks, man. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== French subs ==

Hey, RickTommy. Please don't forget about adding <nowiki>{{fixtranslation}}</nowiki> when you do subs so Meuhcoin or someone knows to look them over. Thanks, and have a good time translating! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
:Pretty please? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:59, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::Seriously, you always need to put the tag on new French subtitles that you create.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Is there a reason for your aversion to <nowiki>{{fixtranslation}}</nowiki>? It's really not a bad thing to have it on your subtitles. It doesn't diminish your work and effort in any way.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== Complaints about the new FAS format ==

RickTommy, has it ever occurred to you that others might genuinely prefer the new format? People aren't praising it to annoy you; they're just expressing their honest opinions, which is entirely within their rights to do. Of course, it's also in your rights to disagree with it, but your constantly complaining about people who like the new system is annoying and is quickly becoming unacceptably hostile, especially with edit summaries like [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ARickTommy&diff=710107&oldid=710101 this one]. Please stop. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:58, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== Previous edit summary ==

What {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Recent changes patrol|offset=20101026050700&limit=2&action=history}} previous edit summary}}? Edit summaries are for the page history first, recent changes a distant second. I realize those HRWiki committee pages are a special case, but in general you need to stop {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=707793}} fixing}} {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=710154}} doctorwho295's}} {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=710763}} name}} on talk pages. If he wants to sign with a lowercase letter, [[HRW:AUTOPIPE|autopipe]] takes care of the link, and there's nothing in our [[HRW:SIG|signature guidelines]] that says he has to sign with a capital letter. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

==Further response==
there are some things on your list that I agree with you on. However, while i'm not saying that anything here specifically annoys me or doesn't, I'm gonna give you a few pointers. I noticed that you added that it annoyed you "When a user creates a new article and links to that article on every page that mentions it" shortly after I linked everything I could find to [[Arby's|a new page that I didn't make]]. I was thinking, "but isn't this good practice?" It's okay; there have been times that good practice has annoyed me too. (See [[Talk:Compé]]) The thing about Strong Mad being older than Strong Bad: yes, that is a known fact. and i have a little brother who is taller and heavier than I am, so i know where you're coming from there. And the new Featured Article selection format: I've noticed that you've been pointing out that you're suggesting an article for the second time. The way the new format works, they won't ever need to be suggested again (or that's the way i understand it). Honest question: do you like that aspect of the format? In short, I guess I would be more comfortable with that section of your user page if it was less inclusive. but don't let me tell you how to shape your user page; you don't have to change a thing based on what I said if you don't want to. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 08:04, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Subtitles:xmas/fr

Loafing — Tue, 30 Nov 2010 06:33:28 GMT

Loafing: {{fixtranslation}}

{{fixtranslation}}
{{subtitles|A Holiday Greeting}}
<pre>
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<transcript xml:lang="fr" file="xmas.swf" width="550" height="400">
<line start="21" end="81" speaker="sfx">musique</line>
<line start="125" end="156" speaker="strongbad">Les lumières, s'il vous plaît.</line>
<line start="157" end="262" speaker="sfx">"Cantique de Noël" se joue</line>
<line start="263" end="302" speaker="strongbad">(chante) O bordel de merde</line>
<line start="303" end="361" speaker="strongbad">Et quelque chose, quelque chose, quelque chose</line>
<line start="362" end="388" speaker="strongbad">Ah, il y eu ce gar</line>
<line start="389" end="437" speaker="strongbad">Et il était probablement né</line>
<line start="438" end="472" speaker="strongbad">Ils n'ont su pas</line>
<line start="473" end="524" speaker="strongbad">S'il était vraiment stupide</line>
<line start="525" end="560" speaker="strongbad">Mais alors ils ont demandé quelqu'un</line>
<line start="561" end="603" speaker="strongbad">Et ils ont dit qu'il était stupide</line>
<line start="604" end="668" speaker="strongbad">Il a dit, euh, qu'il était super</line>
<line start="669" end="758" speaker="strongbad">Et tou'monde l'ont cru</line>
<line start="759" end="804" speaker="strongbad">Ce gar était</line>
<line start="805" end="823" speaker="strongbad">SUPEEEEEEE—</line>
<line start="824" end="855" speaker="homestar">Bien, c'est assez, Strong Bad.</line>
<line start="856" end="919"><sfx>remix de Noël de l'air de l'Intro se joue</sfx><homestar>Eum, je pense que Strong Bad vraiment essaye dire est,</homestar> </line>
<line start="920" end="951"><sfx>remix de Noël de l'air de l'Intro se joue</sfx><homestar>"O Bordel de Merde".</homestar></line>
<line start="952" end="971"><sfx>remix de Noël de l'air de l'Intro se joue</sfx><homestar>Oh non, attends, attends, attends.</homestar></line>
<line start="972" end="1044"><sfx>remix de Noël de l'air de l'Intro se joue</sfx><homestar>Je veux dire, "Joyeux Vacances" de tous de nous à vous.</homestar></line>
<line start="1045" end="1071"><sfx>remix de Noël de l'air de l'Intro se joue</sfx><strongsad>Et Dieu, nous bénir chaque—</strongsad></line>
<line start="1072" end="1092"><sfx>remix de Noël de l'air de l'Intro se joue</sfx><homestar>Désolé, Strong Sad, nous avons plus de temps.</homestar></line>
<line start="1093" end="1117"><sfx>remix de Noël de l'air de l'Intro se joue</sfx><homestar>Joyeux vacances, tout le monde!!</homestar></line>
<line start="1118" end="1180" speaker="sfx">remix de Noël de l'air de l'Intro se joue</line>
</transcript>
</pre>

Subtitles:trogday/fr

Loafing — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:18:57 GMT

Loafing: {{fixtranslation}}

{{fixtranslation}}
{{subtitles|Happy Trogday}}
<pre>
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<transcript language="fr" file="trogday.swf" width="550" height="400">
<line start="65" end="100" speaker="strongbad">Remettons un de ces bras musclés pour bien faire.</line>
<line start="107" end="124" speaker="strongbad">Ça regarde vraiment bien.</line>
<line start="128" end="160" speaker="strongbad">Sortant de derrière son cou, là.</line>
<line start="162" end="192" speaker="strongbad">Maintenant, il a besoin d'un nom. Que dites-vous de...</line>
<line start="195" end="240" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover" volume="1.7">TROGDOR!!!</line>
<line start="243" end="280" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover" volume="1.7">TROGDOR!!!</line>
<line start="283" end="325" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">(chante) Trogdor était un homme!</line>
<line start="331" end="375" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Je veux dire, il était un homme-dragon!</line>
<line start="388" end="436" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Euh, peut-être il était juste un dragon.</line>
<line start="471" end="521" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Eum... Mais il restant toujours TROGDOR!!!!</line>
<line start="533" end="571" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover" volume="1.7">TROGDOR!!!!</line>
<line start="575" end="616" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Brûlatant la campagne!</line>
<line start="620" end="661" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Brûlatant les paysans!</line>
<line start="663" end="700" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Brûlatant tout le monde!</line>
<line start="702" end="745" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Dans leurs chaumières au toit de PAILLE!!!</line>
<line start="764" end="812" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover" volume="1.7">CHAUMIÈRES AU TOIT DE PAILLE !!!</line>
<line start="814" end="832" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Et le Trogdor apparaît dans la</line>
<line start="833" end="870" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover" volume="3">NUIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!</line>
<line start="966" end="990" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Twirr! Twirr!</line>
<line start="1015" end="1048" speaker="stinkoman">Hé! Mon anniversaire était la dernèire prochaine!</line>
<line start="1051" end="1098" speaker="stinkoman">Je ne vois pas quelqu'un fait des crêpes modelées de Stinkoman!</line>
<line start="1104" end="1131"><sfx>sourd, sourd, sourd</sfx><stinkoman>Hein? Hunh? Quoi?</stinkoman></line>
<line start="1137" end="1154" speaker="stinkoman" voiceover="voiceover">Qu'est ça?</line>
<line start="1162" end="1194" speaker="stinkoman">Wââ! Trogador!</line>
<line start="1198" end="1224" speaker="sfx" volume="1.2">rugissement</line>
<line start="1232" end="1300" speaker="stinkoman">C'est ta façon fou et désorientée de moi demander pour un genre de challenge d'anniversaire??</line>
</transcript>
</pre>

User talk:Tom

Loafing — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:15:08 GMT

Loafing: /* Proprietor */ I, for one...

==Jones being funny==
Yarr!! - [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 23:05, 16 Jul 2004 (MST)

==Seethroo with some questions==
Heya, [[User:Tom|Tom]]. Do you ever check this thing?
What's goin' on with the Wiki? It seems to be going nuts. ~ [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

:Yes, I do. And yeah, it's under some strain right now. Crazy. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:51, 2 Aug 2004 (MST)

Cool, cool. I'm gonna be able to help move stuff tonight. [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

:Sweet. I appreciate it. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:41, 3 Aug 2004 (MST)

Hey, is there any particular reason I CANNOT get onto Recent Changes on the oldschool wiki? It's seriously gettin' on my nerves. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:03, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

:I'm guessing it's just the mySQL overload we've been experiencing. Yeah, bummer. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:05, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

Woah. I added a pantload...but there are still some organizational things that need to be hammered out...I guess check the comments I made in various places...I'm tired... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 23:11, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

HOLY CRAP! Who're all those people blocked from this wiki??? I didn't know you were doin' that much blocking already! - [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:34, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, those are open proxies. You can see the note [[Template:BlockedProxy|here]] and Joey's and my discussion of the topic [[Template talk:BlockedProxy|here]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:47, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

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I wanted to do that for old times sake. Anyway, I kinda discovered something to make transferring things much easier. If you take the code from 'Tavi pages, put em in Word, and then do a ctrl-f, you can have it replace all the parentheses with brackets. Doing things that way, I can get all my links straightened out before I even put the text in MediaWiki. Just sharing... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:44, 12 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, I do the same thing, except I use TextPad. It helps a bunch. Mostly. Just have to be a little careful. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:48, 12 Aug 2004 (MST)

::How're all my edits and transfers? Is there something wrong that I'm doing that I need to be aware of? (did I just say "doing"? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:54, 12 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::You, my friend, are doing a great job. You're really keeping things moving along. Keep up the good work. I'm seriously thinking you are the man right about now. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:24, 12 Aug 2004 (MST)

==Note from Firebird==

Just wanted to say thanks for all the work put into the move. Great Job! -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:You're welcome. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:08, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

== Redirects ==

Tom: I'm seeing some deletion of redirect pages on the deletion log. It looks like most of those pages will not be missed, but it does help to have some "common" misspelling articles redirect to the proper article. This is not for sloppy linking , as no pages SHOULD link to a redirect page. This is for people who come to the site, punch in a name into the search box and are taken to the correct page.

There is always some debate over what constitutes a common misspelling. I created a redirect from Whats her face to What's her face. This seems useful to me. Let me know what you think about this. [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 15:42, 15 Sep 2004 (MST)

:I agree. The ones I've been trying to catch are old links that were not fixed correctly during the move. Things like "MainPage 10" that were used instead of "[[Main Page 10]]" becuase of CamelCase on 'Tavi. The person who created that redirect then went ahead and created one for "MainPage 11", even though nothing linked there. I don't see the need for 21 pages to be created like this. Another example is "sbemail1" and its companions. There isn't a need for that.

:Of course, you also have to remember that we turned on case-sensitivity. That means that "[[What's Her Face]]" and "What's her Face" are also two completely different pages. I'd rather that a link show up in red and someone pick up on their mistake right away then have them continue to make links to redirect pages. But I suppose it would be very hard to keep a lid on things like this once we get going. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:55, 15 Sep 2004 (MST)

::Oh, Contraire! I have often wanted to be able to quickly type "sbemailxx" into the search box to find something quickly. I agree that old camel case links should be removed, but I see nothing wrong with shortcut redirects for the lazy. (I was actually thinking of adding these the other day, then stumbled across this thread. Sorry I'm a little late joining the discussion.) :) {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:37, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

:::I totally agree JoeyDay. I too have wished to quickly type the sbemailxx when I am watching a new toon instead of hving to search the Strong Bad Emails by Name page.--[[User:38.112.87.6|38.112.87.6]] 12:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Uh, this conversation happened over six and a half months ago. Thanks for your input, but this really isn't relevant anymore.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==Note from Jones==
''{copied and pasted from [[User:Tom]]}''

I'm just so sick of you being at the top of [[Special:Wantedpages]]. So there. Now you're unwanted. -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 07:49, 3 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Thanks Jones. I feel so loved. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:08, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

==Notes from Maudi==
''{both were copied and pasted from [[User:Tom]]}''

Thank God that you made it, Tom! Thank God! -Maudi Algabban

:I agree! -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:08, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

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Hey, Tom! Have you listened to "Dragostea din tei" with Haiducii or O-Zone? They're from Romania. -Maudi --[[User:193.150.221.247|193.150.221.247]] 16:28, 19 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Sorry, I have to admit that I still haven't. Have you made a userpage yet? Heh heh. But seriously, I know there's [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=193.150.221.247 some stuff] that needs to be attributed to you by being on your userpage. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:08, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

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Hey, Tom!

Check these out for those videos I like!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VRAn9UrVts - '''Dragoste De Inchiriat [AKCENT]'''

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOem06X3uVo&feature=channel - '''Akcent - Kylie (Official Video)'''

[[Wikipedia:Akcent|Akcent]] is really cool, and I like to enjoy listen to it! :)

They are from [[Wikipedia:Romania|Romania]]. And I think you should enjoy listen to it.

--[[User:Maudi Algabban|Maudi Algabban]] 17:52, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

:I watched the video, that's a pretty interesting beat. Have you read any of the [[Wikipedia:Millennium Trilogy|Millennium Trilogy]] books? They're by Swedish author [[Wikipedia:Stieg Larsson|Stieg Larsson]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:28, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

::Sorry, Tom! I must admit that I didn't read any of the [[Wikipedia:Millennium Trilogy|Millennium Trilogy]] books, but thanks for asking, though! --[[User:Maudi Algabban|Maudi Algabban]] 17:35, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

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Tom,

What happened with The Brothers Chaps? Have they stopped making more toons and stuff on Homestarrunner.com? You'd better contact The Brothers Chaps about why they quit making more toons and stuff, right? Maybe they are in hiatus... I don't know.

But, Tom, I'm with you if you talk to the creators, okay?

--[[User:Maudi Algabban|Maudi Algabban]] 15:09, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Note ==

Oh geez, man, it looks like I disambiguated a page you deleted. Took too long doing it, I guess. I'm really sorry about that. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 19:40, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

:No problem, I can just re-delete it. And I appreciate you leaving this note. It makes me feel good. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:41, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

== Oh Man ==
''{In reply to a comment from [[User_talk:Thunderbird_L17]]}''

All that work... I'm really sorry. I was trying to figure out why all my pics looked slightly off. Oh well. I've switched over now. I just wish I hadn't deleted them as I went along... Oh well. I think I'm still doing ok for only being here about a week. Again, my apolagies. And they'll all be PNG from now on. Btw, if you could provide me with a list of the JPG pictures I uploaded, I could replace them in my spare time. Thanks.

-Thunderbird

:Hey, no problem. Here's a [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Thunderbird_L17 good place] to get started. Then there's always the [[Special:Imagelist|Image List]]. I think that might work best. And I can come up with a better list if you need it. And I'm glad you can see the difference. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:03, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

UPDATE:

Topic Complete.

All of my uploaded JPG files are now PNG. Took a bit of doing, but it's done.

== Sebastian Coe ==

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Coe 
''He first ran against Ovett in Prague in 1978 in an 800 meter race that neither won. The next year in Oslo, Norway, '''Coe set his first world records''' (in the 800-meter and '''mile races'''). One of the most famous races between Ovett and Coe was in the 1980 Olympic Games in the 1500-meters. Coe won in Olympic Record time.''

=== Further References ===
From http://www.geocities.com/hotsprings/3257/coe.html 
''He beat Ovett's mile record, running it in 3 min 48.53 sec on August 19; only a week later '''Ovett set another mile record, which was then shattered by Coe''' with a 3 min 47.33 sec run on August 28.''

Here are some of his times in the mile: 
''mile <nowiki>3'48''95</nowiki> 1979 Wr (Oslo)'' 
''mile <nowiki>3'48''53</nowiki> 1981 Wr (Zurich)'' 
''mile <nowiki>3'47''33</nowiki> 1981 Wr (Bruxelles)'' 
Note: Wr stands for World Record.

One final reference: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/World%20record%20progression%20for%20the%20mile%20run 

And a quote from you; 
:''"Hmm. [Coe] didn't really run the mile. And he never had the world record."'' 
Could you please cite your references?? As far as I can tell, he not only ran the mile, he also held the world record on ''three'' seperate occasions.[[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

::Um, my bad. But you did notice that I changed my edit after that edit you quoted me on, right? And that I was being particularly ambigious in my wording? Anyway, you are right. No hard feelings. Thank you. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:13, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

:So, were you gonna change it back then? [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

::Done. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:13, 23 Sep 2004 (MST)
:Thanks [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

== Idea ==

How about desktop background downloads for the wiki? Anyone who wanted to create one could, then e-mail one of the admins the image. Then the admin, if approved, could upload it into the wiki images. It's just an idea, but I like the sound of it. I'd love to have an HRwiki background. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:Hmm. I don't think so. The problem is this, the Wiki is just for information. If you want to make something on your own and then have it somewhere that you could link to from your userpage, that would be better. See, we kind of tread on this uneasy ground with copyrights and the like. Not only that, but there's also the content issue. I know a background that you would make would most likely be good and wholesome for the Wiki and for Homestar Runner, but I wouldn't want to encourage other not-as-good backgrounds to be made. You are always free to make your own backgrounds, keep them to yourself, use them on your computer, and do what ever you want with them.
:As of right now, I'll say this: I don't think you will ever have an official Homestar Runner Wiki background. But I'll ask around and see what I can do. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:43, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

::That's fine with me. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

== Floppy Disks ==

Since you apparently look after the floppy disk section mostly, I figured you would be the best person to ask. How do you feel about a picture of the floppy disk container and it's label beside every listing of it in the inside jokes section? I would be happy to complete that undertaking if you approve. Also, is there anywhere else I could add some pictures? I'm finished the rejects section.

-Thunderbird_L17

:[http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=Floppy+Disk+Container%2FStrongBadEmailDiskLabels Floppy Disk Container/StrongBadEmailDiskLabels]. Check it out. The problem is this: the Wiki is text-based, and information provided through text makes things much easier to search and quicker to load. I'm not really sure that having a screenshot of every different one is needed. Why would it need to be seen by the viewer? Could they simply watch the toon or email instead? One thing that really needs to be done regarding The Container is having the links to the page standardized. Every Fun Facts section on every email and toon that has The Container in it should link to the Floppy Disk Container page in a uniform way. You could get started on that, if you want. And then there's what the disks actually reference. There's a subpage of the Old Wiki page on that needs to be copied over and gone through with a fine-tooth comb.
:Regarding the images, you kind of need to convince me why they are actually needed. Thanks for asking though, this has really gotten me thinking. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:31, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

Well since you already have the list of where the disk case occurs, it should be easy to find the toons to put the link in. I'll get on it later. As far as the floppy images go, I don't think they're NEEDED per-say, but I think it would be kinda cool. It lets people really VISUALIZE the floppys. They would be really small pics too, not full screen. But if you don't want them I won't put them there. As for other pics though, I have been kind of going through the sites putting pictures on everything, if you don't like any of them, feel free to take them off. I just think that any character, object, or place does need a picture to really visualize what the afforementioned thing is. Most of the pages I did only have one or two pics, with the exceptions of The [[King of Town's Castle]] place page, and the [[Tandy_400]] computer page. I kinda may have gone overboard on those ones. Look 'em over and decide. The [[Monkey_D]]'s page also have a few. If you don't like them you can fix them how you see fit. But the widescreen pic in [[Strong_Bad's_Basement]], I'm really proud of that pic. It took me awhile. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 22:24, 22 Sep 2004 (PST)

:Those four pages that you linked to are good. And that basement image is especially good. In some places, it borders on the line of being to much, but I think you played it well. They also could use some small tweaks, but that will all come in good time. As for The Floppies, I think you can make a seperate section on the page for the images and organize them in a table. I actually have all the images, and I can upload them later if you want to use them. (I use them for [http://members.lycos.co.uk/tfpreuss/avatar/avatar.php my avatar] on the forum.) What do you think of that? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:11, 23 Sep 2004 (MST)

Okay, it's up and running..ish. Access it from the regular floppy list. If you have the images, feel free to upload them. Any that you don't have, or don't feel like uploading, I can them. Just upload what you want, and I'll do the rest. Oh, and how do you feel about the naming of images in the Floppy_*name_of_e-mail*.PNG uniformity? You can name then however you want, but I think there should be some form of uniformity in naming the image files. Just tell me if this is okay, and if you're done uploading the images you want. Also, they should all be fullscreen screenshots, right?

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 11:10, 27 Sep 2004 (PST)

Alrightie. Update on the floppy disk container. I've been slowly working away at the Floppy disk container with screenshots page, no help needed there, but as I do so I realized another thing missing from the floppy disk container section, and an actual USEFUL thing, is a breif description and history of the games listed on the floppy disk containers. So that being said, I'm also plugging away at that in my little corner of the floppy disk page. If you would like the commentaries on the main floppy disk page too, which I think would be useful, please let me know so that I can add them to both pages as I go along. No rush though, it'll probably be a few weeks before I'm finished researching them and all. Let me know if you think this would be an improvement to the floppy disk page though. Generally I don't ask permission for editing things, but since you're the senior and keeper of the floppy disk container, I thought it was only fair to ask you. So what are your thoughts?

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 9:45, 6 Oct 2004 (PST)

:I do like the information on what the labels mean, and I wouldn't really call them commentaries. They are all pretty clear cut. Let's see how big they get and then play it from there. Keep them on that screenshot page for now, I don't want to violate [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:44, 7 Oct 2004 (MST)

Hiho. I've run into a roadblock doing the pics. In the e-mail 'lackey', how did you read, let alone get a picture, of the CD case? It's off the screen! Please let me know, or if you have the pic, simply save it as Floppy_lackey.PNG . Please let me know either way whenever. Thanks.

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 10:37, 11 Oct 2004 (PST)

:I used a program called [http://www.flash-decompiler.com/ Flash Decompiler]. It's a free download, so you might want to give it a try. Though I wasn't able to export the actual image, I was able to read the text. But you might have better luck than I did.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:41, 11 Oct 2004 (MST)

Sorry, I don't like treating you like an FAQ, I just have ONE last question. (Probably)...
I have the program, but how do you get the file onto it? It seems like you can only decompile files on your harddrive. Is this so? If it is, how do you get a flash file (SB E-mail Lackey) onto your hard drive? If it isn't, how do you get it from the interent? Last question, probably. I promise. Likely.

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 7:33, 13 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Down the bottom of each toon's or email's page, there's a link for the flash file. Just right click and choose "Save Link As..." or your browser's equivalent.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:57, 14 Oct 2004 (MST)

Thanks, I got it. What do you think of my floppy for Lackey? It's the best I could do... Anyways, I wanted to ask you about the once and only once policy. Though I agree that it's a good policy, I think that the 'see above' thing destroys the look of the summaries, especially once they are all finished. Plus, 'Manhunter New York' appeared in an e-mail at the top, then a toon way at the bottom. So it would be kind of hard to just say 'see above'. Plus since the picture is repeated, why not the explanation? You are the moderater, and whatever you decide I'll abide by, but in this case, since it's only for about 4 floppies, a number that's not likely to be increased, could I just repeat the explanations?

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 6:28, 15 Oct 2004 (PST)

:You know, I do like the idea of having the information on both. Let's try using a tempate instead. Do you think that will work?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:33, 15 Oct 2004 (MST)

Template? I don't know much about website formating or whatnot. Basically everything I do on the Wiki I learn by looking at how somebody else wrote a code, and then copying that pattern. But if you think the template or whatever will work, go ahead. You were right about floating the pictures to the left, making it into tables, all that kind of thing. Just do what you want, and if I disagree I can always revert. But overall I'm happy with what you do. Does this mean that I can put the repeat explanations on the few pictures though, instead of 'see above'?

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 23:49, 15 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Okay, here's what I did. I created [[Template:tongue of the fatman]], [[Template:lode runner]], and [[Template:manhunter new york]]. Check out the page to see if you like it. Now, there's only one place you need to go in order to change the content that will show up for both floppies.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:41, 16 Oct 2004 (MST)

Okay, that works. I don't really plan on editing them much anyways anymore, once the summary is there. But it looks exactly the same, so it's fine. Btw, I fixed the out of place 3.5 inch disk summary, I found a place for it where it fits nicely. Now nothing has two explanations, and the 5.25 inch disks don't have the same summary twice. (See Second 5.25 Inch Disk Summmary)

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 9:09, 16 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Very good. Well done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 16 Oct 2004 (MST)

Hey, can you do the same to Cave Quest (100th e-mail) that you did to Shogun? I can't get it the right size without it pixelating...

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 18:33, 17 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Heh heh. I already did. You can revert back to my image from [[:Image:Floppy flashback.PNG|here]] if you like.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:42, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

Hey Tom, I thought JPG format was to be used for videos and pictures, and PNG for all flash material. Plus I think the JPG looked clearer and brighter. If you really don't want it there, then I'll try another way, but I thought I read somewhere that JPG was preferable for pictures, just not for flash. Is the one JPG really that bad? Please clarify. Thanks.

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 06:30, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Ah ha. There's a little catch here though. We are talking about a screenshot of a movie or image, and not the actual image itself. Screenshots should always be PNGs. The only kinds of JPGs we should have are photos like [[:Image:TheBrothersChapsBandW.jpg]] or [[:Image:mattchapman.jpg]]. Perhaps an screenshot like [[:Image:puppetdween.png]] better illustrates what I'm trying to say.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:35, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

Okay, I getcha. Then I guess I'll just put it back on the old PNG one for now. Thanks. I guess if anything, it adds diversity...

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 19:08, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

Alright, I think it's finally done. I have one more little task though that I can't complete on my own. The three templates, Template:manhunter_new_york , Template:lode_runner , and Template:tongue_of_the_fatman are now unneeded, and as such should be deleted, right? I can't figure out how to. If you know of a way, be my guest. Or should they just be left peacefully, until the end of time? -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 09:40, 1 Nov 2004 (MST)

Sorry, I was just going to get breakfast when I finished my summary, and when I finished it I realized there was a stored version that wasn't there when I started. I didn't have time to merge them so I just uploaded mine, and I was going to merge them when I got the chance, which is now. I did notice the picture though, and already put it up. Sorry about that, I don't want to offend anyone. I'm going to merge them right now. I just figured if I put mine in quickly yours is still stored as a past edit, so that way they're both there if needed. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 12:21, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)

Actually, I never thought about NPOV. While I was doing all this, I used reviews as sources, it's easier to just take the opinions of the writers and condence them. But I think that meathod has given the summaries a multi purpose, to now give you a bit of background about the game for curiosity's sake, but also as a type of mini review, for those who are deciding whether or not to find and play them. It gives the summaries a critical and reviewish type feel. Now to go back and do them all NPOV'D would take some doing, and in my opinion I don't think would be as enjoyable to read. What do you think?
'''Side Note:''' Since they replaced the 5.25's along with the Tandy, do you think they might replace the 2.5's with CD's along with the comp? '''UPDATE EDIT: No they didn't, but on [[Main Page 22]] it reveals [[The Cheat]]'s computer has them.''' I dunno, just a curious little observation.

--[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 15:05, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)

I figured since I already started a conversation thread here, I'd ask this under the same topic. Do you have a DVD player built into your computer? Basically the reason is that I need the pics of the Floppy Disk Containers from the DVD Main Menus for the Floppy Disk Container page. If it's got Puppet Time Version, it stands to reason that DVD version would be acceptable as well. I do have the DVD set, but no way of getting screens. (Prefferably 150px or larger). Thanks in advance,
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 15:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Okay. I do have a DVD player for my computer. But what screenshots do you need?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

The screens of the Floppy disk Containers on the Main Menus (the CG'd ones) from the DVDS. [[User:The Paper|The Paper]] did get them, but they decidedly leave something to be desired, and we're hoping you can do better. Hopefully Zoomed and what not. Also, the last Floppy Disk container couldn't be identified, it seems as though it's cut off by the camera. Check the [[Floppy Disk Container]], it's got the base of what I'm looking for there. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks alot. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 17:58, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Okay, I'll see what I can do.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:32, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Return the fanstuff! ==
I'd like a promise to agree to let me bring back the fanstuff. It doesn't make the wiki complete without it.--[[User:No Loafing V2|No Loafing]] 16:34, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Joey has already [[User_talk:JoeyDay|replied to this demand]]. Fanstuff is [[HRWiki:About|not approved]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:11, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)
then im leaving. GOOD BYE!--[[User:No Loafing V2|No Loafing, who will only be on the forum from now on.]] 04:57, 1 Oct 2004 (MST)

Wow. What a crybaby. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:43, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

I second that. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 09:42, 1 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Rollbacks ==

Exactly how do you roll a page back to its previous version? I've attempted to do this in the past, and I still haven't figured out how. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 19:28, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)

:A very good question. I just fixed up the instructions on the [[WikiTroll]] page yesterday. Check 'em out.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:32, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)

== First time Here? on Log in ==

Is there anyway to link to the [[Hrwiki:About|about]] page on a log in page? It seems that people don't read that page, and it might help new users who log in? Do you agree? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:Hmm, that's a pretty good idea. I'll look into that. But what might even be better is if we had some sort of [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee|welcoming committee]]. Would you want to be in charge or something like that?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:55, 7 Oct 2004 (MST)

::I think it would be great if we had a welcoming committee (and I wouldn't mind being in charge). -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:::Fantastic, I'm happy to hear it. Just look over what Wikipedia does. We don't need all that stuff, but I'm sure you'll find a way to adapt it for us.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:50, 7 Oct 2004 (MST)

::::Should I make a page for our own little welcome committee? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:::::Yeah, [[Hrwiki:Welcoming committee]] should work nicely. You're in charge, buddy.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:58, 7 Oct 2004 (MST)

== SB Email categories ==

I moved the [[:Category: Strong Bad Email]] as a sub-category of [[:Category: Strong Bad Filmography]]. All the emails were in both categories when technically all SB Emails are part of his filmography by default. It cleans up the Strong Bad filmography nicely and keeps the all the emails grouped together. There is only one email that SB is not in, but due to this arrangement will still be included in his filmography, but taking the IMDB as a guide, if someone guest hosts the "Late Show with David Letterman" it is called "Late Show Backstage", but it still shows up on Dave’s filmography. - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 09:01, 12 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Personally I don't think this really makes sense. An email that Strong Bad is not in should not be in his Filmography, despite what IMDb does. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

::I agree. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:::I also found it a bit confusing. Strong Bad, Homestar, and Marzipan are in all of [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]]s, but I don't think that should be a sub-category of any one of their filmographies. I think it would not be confusing to have every email be directly in Strong Bad's Filmography, except [[anything]], just how it was. It would also be less confusing for someone just looking at any email and thinking to themselves, "Oh, this one isn't listed in Strong Bad's Filmography", since it does not show up directly on the page as it is now with the subcategory. That's really what it comes down to, that [[:Category: Strong Bad Filmography]] does not show up on the emails. Oh, and the "anything" thing too.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:56, 12 Oct 2004 (MST)

:::Funny, the IMDB is a suitable guide to determine the precedent for a voice over. To me the Filmography categories are proving to be more trouble then they are worth and a misapplication of the original intent of the category structure. I understand wanting an automatically generated list for the 12 main characters that show up in everything, but it seems from all the other character pages that the Wiki users are more than capable of manually tracking the appearances of even the most obscure psudo-characters.

The stucture:
<pre>Character->Filmography->Strong Bad Filmography->Strong Bad Email</pre>

:::makes a lot of sence to me. SB is in all but one email, which can be explained by a note. If having 100+ emails cluttering the SB filmography and being unnessicarily duplicated in the email list and in the email category doesnt bother you, then it wont bother me.

:::I guess I should get going on [[:Category: Biscuit Dough Hands Man Filmography]] while I'm at it. - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 12:15, 12 Oct 2004 (MST)

::::Your presentation just now does make a bit of sense. I'll have to see what others think. Though on that other issue, as I understood it, the filmography categories were never supposed to be extended beyond the 12 main characters. Somewhere along the line, this was not explained well enough and the whole thing took off. I think there's over fifty filmographies now. I'd be happy to draw a line somewhere. ([[:Category:The_Alien_Guy_Filmography]]?)[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:24, 12 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Thank you!!!!!!!1111oneone ==

Thank You x 1 Billion [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

:Hey, no problem.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:07, 15 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Help Page ==

I'm confused on where to post questions in the [[Help:Contents|help]] section. Do we post it on the FAQ Discussion page or somewhere on the Main Page of the help section? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:The [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ|discussion page of the FAQ]]. Discussion and "talking" should never really be on a page. The headings on the [[Help:Contents|help]] page were set up by me back in late July and we never really fleshed them out. I'll fix it now. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:20, 19 Oct 2004 (MST)

No Problem. And Thanks. -- [[USer:FireBird|FireBird]]

==Notes from The Mysterious Stranger==
Hello, Tommy-boy. I'm back, and in buisiness.
-- [[User:Mysterious-Stranger|Mysterious-Stranger]]

==Subpages==
If there are subpages, we should use them. Anybody agree? (You have too or else, TOM!)--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 05:31, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

No. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:Subpages are useful, but only for the right kinds of stuff, like adding an archive to a cluttered talk page, or some ''temporary'' user space separate from the rest of your user space for, say, a rewrite of a page. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:56, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Who's In Charge Of The Main Page Anyways? ==

Hiho. I'm not getting much of a response on the [[Talk:Main Page|Main Talk Page]], so I figured I'd go straight to the source, assuming that the source(s) are moderators. Anyways, here's my question. Who's in charge of the Main Page, not so much the look of it, I don't really care about that, but moreso the organization of the links to pages. Now I'm no moderator, but I was curious as to why the links are organized the way they are. Why are Inside Jokes part of Wiki Stuff, Yet Songs part of Knowledge Base? I've been thinking about the layout, and I belive I've figued out a good way of sortage, and am hoping for either a yes or a no. Either one, as long as I can maybe get some kind of explanation as to why they're sorted the way they are, should the answer be a no. Anyhoo, without further ado, I give you my sorting idea...

Basically it consists of the Knowledge Base containing ONLY the things listed on the H*R main page(s), and putting everything left over into Wiki Stuff. It would look something like this, and would have the added bonus of evening the two sections out, leaving External Links on the bottom...

(The Knowledge Base Stuff)

* [[Toons]]
** [[Strong Bad Email]]
** [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]]
** [[Teen Girl Squad]]
** [[Powered by The Cheat]]
** [[Puppet Stuff]]
** [[Holiday Toons]]
* [[Games]]
* [[Characters]]
* [[Downloads]]
* [[Store]]
* [[Email]]
* [[Legal]]
* [[Main Pages]]
** [[Weekly Fanstuff]]
** [[Quote of the Week]]
** [[Sketchbook]]
* [[Museum]]
* [[Secret Pages]]

Then this to the right of it: (Perhaps the first part even in an additional section?)

* [[Places]]
* [[Items]]
* [[Songs]]
* Quotes
* [[Glossary]]
* [[Inside Jokes]]
* "Rejects"
(Perhaps another section here?)
* [[Special:Listusers|List of registered wiki users]]
* [[Links]]
* [[Sightings]]
* [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]]
* [[HRWiki:Ledger|Ledger]]
* [[HRWiki:Projects|Projects]]
* [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]]
* [[WikiTroll]]
* [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee|Welcoming committee]]

Then the external links in another catergory. Is there any problem with this layout? The idea behind it is that the first section are your main ingrediants, and the second one is things that you can make out of them. I just belive that things such as Rejects and Inside Jokes should be in the same catergory as things such as songs and items. Any answer to this would be much appreciated, and then I'll shut up about it. Thanks alot Tom. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 02:33, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I'm not really sure. Your line of thinking makes sense, however I'm thinking it is our system of classification that really seems to be the issue. Inside Jokes? Rejects? What the heck are those really? Things need to be clearly defined and a system needs to be implimentated to classify things.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:57, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

Hmmm... Thats a good point. Okay, well at least keep my organizational idea in mind as you go about implementing the changes. And with that, I withdraw from the Main Page arguments and leave it in the rest of the Wiki's capable hands. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 16:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

== STUFF and Fun Facts ==

As you may have read I have an issue with the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page. I am very glad someone has spearheaded an attempt to control the "fun fact" problem, but I still think that the voting and discussion for disputed Fun Facts should be made on the article's talk page and not on the STUFF page.

If a controversial article like [[Wikipedia:History of Israel]] can exist on the Wikipedia by using the Talk page and without resorting to a common page voting system, I think the Homestar Wiki article [[virus]] can too.

Now that we have people's attention with the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page I suggest that we move content discussion back to the Talk pages where they belong.

I have created a preliminary template:disputed

It reads as follows:{{disputed}}

This could be used to let contributors know that there is a dispute, and to direct them to the talk page. The Disputed Fun Facts link should go to a page with the info that [[User:furrykef |furrykef]] wrote on what is and is-not a good fun fact.

People were not using the talk pages effectively in the past, which is a failure of us the users, not of the talk pages.

-[[User:Drhaggis|[[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]]] 16:35, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I completely agree that talk pages are not effectively used by our users. I did read your comment on the talk page and did like some parts of it.

:You mentioned there that the popularity of the "Stuff" page is typical of a sloppy discussion forum and not an article based reference guide. I indeed was amazed at all the users who were very interested in voting. It appears that a quick vote and comment is much easier than proposing fixes and improvements.

:You also presented the idea that this problem inherent mostly because the Homestar Runner Universe is finite. I completely agree. I also believe this is why some users, instead of improving on articles that already exist, create very small articles for very fringe elements of said universe. While I don't think that the Stool article may be one of these, I'm not entirely interested in proposing other examples at this time.

:While this may not be the time or place to discuss your other comment on that talk page about proper classification, I believe it would be important to address that issue with whichever system is accepted for the dealing with fun facts.

:As [[User:furrykef|Kef]] noted in his reply to your comment, the STUFF process was loosely based on Wikipedia's Votes for Deletion process. I do like Wikipedia's VfD process and have participated in it in the past, but as you may notice we don't have a system like this for dealing with the deletion of pages because we are so small. It works for Wikipedia but would simply would not work for us.

:Throughout my travels around Wikipedia, I have seen several pages with notices like the one on the [[Wikipedia:History of Israel]] page. While I don't believe the scale of discussions here will every reach such a level as that, I am willing to investigate the possibility of using such a system.

:If we were to adopt your proposal, I would want some sort of centrally located instruction page. As you mention, this could contain some of Kef's rules from the STUFF page. I'd also want it to list all the pages that are currently going through the process.

:Of course, your proposal is in direct conflict with the current STUFF system, which the users seems to have latched on to. I like your proposal, but I'm interested in hearing how you would implement it given the current circumstances.

:Thank you for being bold enough to propose an alternative.

:[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Image Use Policy ==

Hi, I was just wondering about the special page "[[Special:Image_use_policy|Image Use Policy]]", accessable from the [[Special:Upload|Upload Page]]. It doesn't seem to have anything on it. Is there any way to fix that? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 18:35, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Good find. I've changed the link so that it goes to [[HRWiki:Image use policy]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:58, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Thanks, I'll get to work on that a bit later. Maybe cut and paste something from Wikipedia and go from there. In other news, were you aware that somebody turned the [[Floppy Disk Container]] into a redirect? Is this allowed? Do you condone this? If so, I'm sorry that I kind of hijacked your pride and joy and turned it into my own. I'll make it up to you, somehow... [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 01:25, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::I did notice that redirect and decided to not do anything about it. And the only thing we have now regarding images is what is in the [[HRWiki:Standards#Screenshot|screenshot section]] on the Standards page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:15, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

i dont no how to bring a pickchur to my payj. how do yoou do it?

:What?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:28, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::[[User:Son Goku|Son Goku]] needs help putting up a ''picture'' on his user ''page''. ([http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Image:w12_DragonballZ100.jpg This picture that he uploaded]) --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:46, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah sorry about that. You see, he doesn't really know how to spell
very good.
[[User:Balmung of Azure Sky|Lord Balmung of the Azure Sky]] 3:47 PM

:Uh, right.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:15, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Things Noticed Page==
I didn't know there was a fansite wiki, but thanks for telling me! Sorry if I was being to rude about things noticed... -- [[User:Guy27|Guy27]] 12:02, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Poor Images==
''[In reply to a comment on [[User_talk:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf#Poor_images|User_talk:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf]]]''

Yeah, hi. You asked how I made those pictures? Well, I have a screenshot program that only makes Jpegs (which I later save as PNG's), so you can see why the quality would be poor. 'Cause, you know, Jpegs are poor quality. Oh, and I like how you are constanly using [http://www.wikipedia.org WikiPedia] links.
---[[User:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf|Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf]] 22:58, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] links are great. I'm curious as to what "screenshot program" you use. What operating system are you running? I know Windows captures raw image files to the clipboard with a simple push of the "print screen" key. These can be used in any image editing program, like the [[Wikipedia:Free software|free]] [http://www.gimp.org/ the GIMP]. They turn out much better than [[:Image:Kobe 1-4.png|other]] [[:Image:Kobe 2-4.png|images]] [[:Image:Kobe 2-4.png|you uploaded]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:52, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)
:''[Cross posted at [[User_talk:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf#Poor_images|User_talk:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf]] at 17:54, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)]''

I use this thing called [http://www.screenshot-utility.com/ Screenshot Utility] as my, quote unquote, "screenshot program", if that's what you call those things. But anyway, I'm trying to download a new [http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/9220 "program of shots of screens"], but the downloading bar's been stuck at 77% for like, 10 minutes, so, I dunno.

==About blocking==

Hello, Tom! I don't mean to interfere with anything, but I noticed that you blocked 24.1.84.103 for defacing the Main Page when it looks like s/he was restoring it from another troll (and then it was trolled again by that "logan" kid).

Anyway, I really admire the work you've been doing on this Wiki. Gweat job...I mean, gweat job...I mean, gweat job. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 20:41, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Yeah man, that's my bad. Thanks. It's been fixed.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:48, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Re: Rejects cat==

Just got your message. The reason I started the "project" is because, from my view, the Rejected Characters should be flagged not only from the Rejects page, but from their article itself. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:26, 28 Dec 2004 (EST)

:Your concern is understandable, but the whole "rejects" thing really isn't to Drhaggis and my liking. However I'm mostly at a loss at how to classify these things, but I'll ask Drhaggis, as putting things into categories is his speciality.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:33, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I think the "Rejects" page should be deleted. If we as a community have deemed a character or item "article worthy" we simply create the article and categorize it accordingly. I think "Rejects" are a hold over from the old Wiki that is not served by the capabilities of the new Wiki. There are few truly "Rejected" things; [[Dijjery-Doo]] for example was rejected by [[TBC]], but he has still popped up in [[for kids]].
: The Characters/Items/Places categories are a bit big, and can be grouped into sub categories. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 12:51, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Okay, sounds reasonable enough to me. However, how do you think we can go about this with minimal damage to the egos of those responsible for said Rejects? And I sure don't want anything to get lost.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:14, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I think we just need to delete the "Rejects" list. All the things that were previously deamed to be rejected already have articles so no data is lost, just the well done "...are a waste of time" banners on the page. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 13:23, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Whoa! Those things really ''are'' all categorizied. Okay, the page has been deleted, and all article links to it have been removed.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:36, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Rejected Halloween Costumes Task ==

Hi Tom! Thunderbird here again, with a special task for a few of my fellow users. On the [[Sketchbook]] page, in the [[Sketchbook#In The Museum|Museum]] section of that page, the last picture is a bunch of rejected halloween costume ideas. The caption gives the challenge '10 bucks to anyone who can identify them all'. So what I propose is to identify them all. I've already set up a basic 'top left to bottom right' type list under the 'Description' section, with the two most obvious costumes in it. But can we get the other costumes, and win ourselves $10? Any costumes you know would be a help. Thanks. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 02:14, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Update: The good Doctor Haggis was far faster with that task than I could have ever expected. All the costumes are done with the exception of one: The full body [[Marzipan]]. Many think that she is in fact Belle from Beauty & the Beast, but we're not quite sure about that. What are your thoughts? Any better ideas as to who this mystery Marzipans could be, or even just your opinion as to weather or not she's Belle? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 12:11, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Stu... ==

Any idea where [[User:Stu|Stu]] has been? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:Yeah, I do. But you can ask him yourself. His email address is in his profile on the forum, or you could use the [[Special:Emailuser/Stu|MediaWiki user email thing]] if you have it set up correctly.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:52, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

::Okay. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

== SsSp ==

I'd say [[SsSp]] passed the test. :-) --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 23:36, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Indeed. Hmm...[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:21, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Glitch Template ==

Sorry about that! I was just experemeting w/ overflows, and It turned out that FF coulndent handle it. I didnt know how to deleat it! Firefox crashed while atempting to view it. Also, why dont they have protection on user pages? Couldend a WikiTroll Distroy sombodys page? How do i set <nowiki>→[[User:firefocman|''<tt>[[User:firefoxman|FireFox Man]]</tt>'']]</nowiki> As my siggi?
Thanks,
→[[User:firefocman|''<tt>[[User:firefoxman|FireFox Man]]</tt>'']]

:The Wiki can be edited by any person, but defacement never lasts. And here are [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Preferences#Your_nickname the instructions] to change your signature.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:31, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Sysop ==

How does one become a Sysop? It would be nice to be able to ban some Trolls. *chuckles* -[[User:firefoxman|Ω Lucas]] 15:23, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Certainly not by asking. Teh lame, don't you think? Also, please try to use the "Show preview" button before the "Save page" button.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:18, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

== My Work... Deleted!? ==

i noticed that you deleted my work on the [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]] page.. jw why...
-- Always cheating, never speaking, [[User:The Cheat|The Cheat]]

:[[HRWiki:Once And Only Once]]. Also, we simply don't list parts of things on the main page for something. For example, we don't list every time [[Strong Bad]] has said the word "crap" or made fun of [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:24, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Wikipedia ==

I hope the contacts that didn't happen over on Wikipedia were going to be good ones. Sometimes I worry that a fan is going to leave me messages about how I'm destroying the articles by removing "important information" about every Homsar Halloween Easter egg or some such. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]

== Giving props ==

Tom, you're my hero. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 15:37, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Sweet. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:43, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

::I second that. You're everyone's hero. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::Yay for TOM!!! ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 00:42, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

I don't know why we're cheering, but I'm good for it. '''HOORAY FOR BOX!''' I mean Tom. Hooray for ''Tom.'' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

== Re: huttah! ==

You're right but wrong. You were correct that there was no evidence of a camera in The Cheat's room. However, my comment on the non-revert was due to the fact that the writer essentially plugged a personal comment into the middle of the transcript (which is NOT acceptable); upon seeing that, I admit that I barely read it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:31, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Understood. And you are right. I did not revert back to the writer's version, and did remove the commentary-like style. Thanks Jay.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:30, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Admin nomination ==

I'm not sure what ratio of administrators to users you are planning on maintaining, but I think [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] would make an excellent admin. Consider this a formal nomination. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:15, 26 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Cool, I'll take this into consideration with the other admins. I'll keep you posted[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:57, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Back In The Lab Again ==

How have you been? I have been busy as crap recently. Whats happened with the wiki recently? --[[User:DeLoreanz1|DeLoreanz1]] 14:06, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I'm good, thanks for asking. As for recent things on the Wiki, I suppose the best place to look would be [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]]. We pretty much just keep doing our thing.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:11, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)

Good. I've been playing Yahoo Pool, watching James Bond, and messing with my electronics. --[[User:DeLoreanz1|DeLoreanz1]] 14:23, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Coach Z's Team ==

Can you tell me why [[Coach Z's Team]] was deleted? If we don't need it, why bother having an article for [[On Point Kings]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:20, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Beats me. Of course, the text
::''Coach Z's Team is a team coached by Coach Z, consisting of Homestar Runner and co. It's unknown what sport they play, while played on an football field, it also involves basketball hoops and a baseball being kicked around.''
:is hardly article worthy. So pretty much we know that Coach Z's team is coached by Coach Z and is a team. Was it ever even mentioned in a toon?
:Additionally, if you don't think [[On Point Kings]] is worth the article, you are welcome to bring it up on the respective talk page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:03, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

"text is hardly article worthy"?? I stubed the freakin' page. As being mentioned in a toon, the [[Yearbook Character Page]] is the only reference I could find. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 12:35, 14 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Okay. So you think the page was worth the article?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:47, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

Yes. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 12:22, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I don't. It doesn't provide any information that one couldn't figure out by just watching [[A Jorb Well Done]]. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Yet [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace USA]] doesn't provide any information that one couldn't figure out by just watching [[theme park]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 09:50, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

This was marked and deleted again. Tell you what Trogga, the day we know what sport they play, we will keep the article ;) [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:11, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

== Rock Opera Context Note ==

Tom,

Hello. I hope your day is well.

I disagree with your moving the work left to do on the rock opera context page to the discussion page, for the simple reason that NOBODY will see it there. If it can't be on the main page, then it should be deleted altogether, as it is serving no purpose.

The point of putting up the note was to aid people in knowing which words were still missing and at the same time encourage those die-hard troupers out there to help complete the page (kind of like a game). You know who I'm talking about: that special someone who is gonna figure out exactly which "I" was used from "lackey".

Therefore, I believe the note should be reinstated at the head of the main page. Besides, it's only temporary... just till we get this thing done.

Kind regards, 
[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:58, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I understand and appreciate your concern. However, articles are designed to be read as articles and nothing else. There should never be notes or instructions left for future editors. This is mentioned explicitly in the [[HRWiki:Standards#Don't use conversational style|don't use conversational style]] section of the [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]]. Wiki users, especially the die-hard troupers you mention, know to look at Talk pages. That's what they are for.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

I see your point. I still don't completely like it, but at least I agree with you now. This particular page is close to my heart because I'm the one who set it up and got the ball rolling on filling in the words (although, I'll admit that ''someone'' would have done it eventually). It also happens to be the very first page I've created for the Wiki. I'm so pleased that the community has deemed the page useful and that they're helping to finish it with such vigor. I watch excitedly as each new entry is filled in. (I would do more research myself, but I've got this stupid ''job'' thing where I have to be if I want money. You probably know how that goes.)

Cheers, 
[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:49, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

:No problem. I'll remove the note again. I'd also like to bring to your attention the [[HRWiki:Projects]] page. That might be a better spot for you to put a note.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:10, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

==[[Strong Bad Email By Name of Sender]] Tables?==

I've put tables up on the A's and B's section of [[Strong Bad Email By Name of Sender]]. What do you think of this? Do you think it's better? Any suggestions as to how the tables should be better? Should I leave it as 'N/A', ''N/A'', 'None', or just leave it blank or something? Any input or blessing would be much appreciated. I'm just gonna leave it there until I get some kinda direction from a higher power (I.E., Mod). Thanks.
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 00:59, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Looks like you got a good respose on [[Talk:Strong Bad Email By Name of Sender#Tables|the talk page for the article]]. Looks good.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:26, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Yea, [[User:Jay|Jay]] was a big help. Thanks anyways.
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 00:15, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

==We Need A Mod==

On the H*R updates page, (the main one), I think the disclaimer at the top needs rewording a bit since we now have the navigation box. But it's a protected page. So we can't change it. Can you? It doesn't really need any of those links anymore, since they're all in the box. Thanks.

[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 00:15, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:54, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

== NYU Video ==

I know I probably shouldn't put this on your wiki, but on your website, the link to the NYU video is dead or something. Do you have any advice on how to open it? I was there, but I'd love to see it again! And this way, I won't have to stand outside in the cold for 2 hours holding a yellow sign to get tickets again.

:I just wanted to '''thank you''' for making the video available to us fans! Using your generous torrent and 80 percent of your AVI file, I have put up a [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|preliminary transcript]]. It barely scratches the surface, but it's a start. To the person above (who didn't sign his or her post), check out Tom's instructions [[Talk:NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|here]]. Thanks again, Tom. I really loved what I've seen of your footage of the performance and autograph signing. I hope the screenshots I took do it justice! --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 13:27, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Issac: I think The Paper answered your question, those instructions should be what you need.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:35, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

::The Paper: Hey, the pleasure is all mine. The transcript looks pretty good. I also want to compliment you on your screenshots. How did you manage to get [[:Image:TBC at NYU intro.jpg|this one here]] to look so good on that second try?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:35, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Removing Fun fact ==

I just removed a funfact in [[long pants]] on the basis of it being a repeat apprearance, and already mentioned in the transcript. Why did you re- add it?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 14:38, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:It was a long standing rule not link to articles in a transcript. I see this is not the case in this instance, as [[BMW Lighter]] is linked to from the transcript. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I've reverted my revert.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:43, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:Similar occurences appear on other pages where the lighter is used. Would you like me to remove those fun facts too?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 14:47, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

::I suppose as long as there is a link somewhere in the article there isn't any harm. But make sure the fun facts don't afford any additional information before you remove them. If it's just "The BMW Lighter is in this toon", then it would seem to be alright to remove it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:52, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Redirectetiquette?==

Okay, I changed the links from Sketchbook to [[Museum Sketchbook]], and moved the page there. But I can't seem to move [[Weekly Sketchbook]] to Sketchbook. Is that because it's got the redirect there, in which case do I need to first wipe the Sketchbook page clean, and then move the page there? ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 17:54, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:I'll be interested to see Tom's reply, because I'm pretty sure you can't have both an article and a redirect with the same name. But I also have a question for both of you: Shouldn't the museum sketchbook article be called <nowiki>[[Sketchbook (museum)]]</nowiki>, instead of <nowiki>[[Museum Sketchbook]]</nowiki>? After all, the tab on the file folder just reads "Sketchbook". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:07, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

::Dang, not again. I just don't know. I think it's pretty safe to say that the weekly should just be 'Sketchbook', but yea, the Museum one is kinda 'sketchy', (slight pun intended). Well it's up to you guys, as long as the weekly one gets the 'main title'. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 19:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:::Fixed. See [[Museum Sketchbook]] and [[Sketchbook]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:18, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Edit Conflict Solution? ==

If we delete all pages that have an edit conflict, and then put them back with the same title and content, do you think that might get rid of this Edit Conflict problem? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 07:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:That was one thing I tried, but it didn't work. It doesn't matter now, as it is now fixed by another solution.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:19, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Inappropiate Context? ==
My friend wants to know if [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Other_Character_Email_Strong_Mad/30&oldid=13978 this other character email] on the Fanbase is legal, or if it he would get in trouble if he makes it public. Can you help? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 09:08, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Oh No! [[User:Tom|Tommy's]] Stuck In The Well!==

Well seriously, where else could [[User:Tom|he]] be? [[User:Tom|He]] hasn't been around since the third! Hey [[User:Tom|Tom]], [[User:Tom|your]] questions are stacking up! Hurry up and get out, [[User:Thunderbird L17|w]][[User:FireBird|e]] need [[User:Tom|your]] guidance and wisdom beyond [[User:Tom|your]] years! ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 09:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

== Unnamed Characters ==

Yo, I have something to ask you, Why don't you have a Category for unnamed characters? I was planing on doing some pages for a few people In the background of marshmallows last stand, and they wouldn't have a category!

:I'm thinking there isn't one because we don't need one. And it's not like I'm the one who comes up with these things anyway. It's a wiki. If there's a need for something, anyone can create it following the [[HRWiki:Standards|standards]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== MediaWiki Question ==

Hi Tom:

First, thanks for hrwiki, it rules and I visit at least weekly. If you browse to [http://jfwiki.org my new wiki] you'll see that I've stolen (respectfully appropriated?) some of your excellent help text and another thing or two. Wikisource comments give you props.

But there's something else I want to learn from you: how do you make fundraising or sysop announcements appear across the whole wiki?

Bowing humbly, [[User:spblat|spblat]] 20:42, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Never mind. MediaWiki:Sitenotice [[User:spblat|spblat]] 23:17, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Yup, you got it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Email ==

Whoa! Yes, yes I most assuradly do. Only every two or three days though, and my junk folder even less, due to the unholy ammount of spam I am bombarded with. But I just sifted through, and found it. I also added you to safe list, so all future emails from yourself will be replied to much faster. Come to think of it, I'm gonna go and add all sysop addresses to my safe list. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 01:11, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:15, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Sysop Question==

Hey Tom, I have a question about the new Sysop abilities. Just how do I do the Recentchanges Patrol ability? And what exactly would I be viewing? Aren't edits instantanious? So how do I view them ahead of time? Thanks Tom. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 03:24, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:When you view edits via the RecentChanges page by clicking on the "diff" link, you now have the option to "[Mark as patrolled]". This removes the red exclamation point on the RecentChanges list, alerting other sysops that you've checked out that edit so they don't have to.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:49, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Sweet, That's useful. I was wondering what those red marks were for. Okay, thanks. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 04:06, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::Actually, you can mark a change as patrolled if you are or aren't a sysop. At least, I could. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::::Hey, you're right. The requirement is simply that you are a logged in user.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:25, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::::Oh. Well then... Coun't a troll mark his own change as 'patrolled'? Or are trolls generally just accepted to not be that smart, or have that long of an attention span? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 23:28, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::::::Generally, trolls != smart. But yes, any logged in user could mark any edit as patrolled. Though it's likely that the kind of people that deface articles are not the kind of people who know about the patrolled edit feature.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:45, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Format Help ==

(copying what's on my Talk page) Hi there -erson. I've deleted your "formathelp" Template and Category. If something is formatted incorrectly, just fix it. Notes for future editors like that should not appear in articles, as per the [[HRWiki:Standards|Wiki standards]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:I realise that, however it is I that do not know advanced formating, d would like to keep this notes inthe pages I am planning to make. And shouldnt that *this page requires clanup and revision* template be deleted too as it would be a note to future editors?-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:43, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::[[Help:Editing]] contains all the advanced formatting you should need to make a page. You can also use the [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]] for practice and ask questions and request help from other users (I'd be happy to assist). The Cleanup template isn't really a note to future editors so much as a notice that a page needs work done on it. So there's really no need for the "formathelp" template. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:13, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::What she said.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==MATT?!?!?!==

Oh come on, couldn't you guess I was gonna do that next? I just did a save, and realized that THE EXACT CHANGES were already made. Seriously, what a pointless five minutes. Oh well. You wanna do the final clean up/formatting? ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 23:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:You actually went through and changed them all by hand? Man, that's rough. I just popped the text into TextPad and did a "find and replace all". It's all yours now, help yourself.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:35, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Ah, cut and paste. I thought of the 'find and replace all', but since it isn't in the Wiki I didn't think of it. I just cut and pasted 'att', and then just pointed and Ctr+V'd. But your meathod will be WAY better in the future, thanks. Learn something new everyday I guess... ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 23:39, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Indeed.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:43, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Personal CSS ==

Is it possible to change the size of the logo in one's personal "monobook.css"? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

:Not really. You could hide half of it (or as much as you want) with something like <tt>#p-logo{height:155px;width:6em;overflow:hidden;}</tt>, but I don't think that's what you are looking for. There might be some other solution, but I really can't think of anything right now off of the top of my head.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

== Attention... ==

Tom, have you noticed the conversation going on at [[HRWiki talk:Introduction 2]] yet? I've proposed combining pages 2 and 3 into a single page and posted a [[User:JoeyDay/Introduction 2 mock-up|mock-up]] on my user page. Let me know what you think. — http://joeyday.com/images/wikisig.gif '''[[User:JoeyDay|Joey]]''' ([[User talk:JoeyDay|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/JoeyDay|edits]]) 19:03, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

== Personalized Signatures ==

Since many folks nowadays seem to be personalizing their sigs, I was just wondering: Is sig help covered in an 'HRWiki:' page? If not, should one be made? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 18:42, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

:[[HRWiki:User preferences help#Your nickname]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks. I added a paragraph about changing the signature color, check it out and make changes if you want. I don't think I really explained it perfectly... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 21:42, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

:::I honestly don't think it is necessary. It's something people learn over time. Customizing one's signature shouldn't be that important. And if I may ask, why are you linking to december.com there? Wouldn't the relavent [[Wikipedia:Web colors|Wikipedia article on web colors]] be better?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

::::I fixed the paragraph about signature color so it is valid XHTML 1.0 Strict (just doing my duty as a member of the [[HRWiki:Validation committee|validation committee]]). I also linked to the suggested wikipedia article. — http://joeyday.com/images/wikisig.gif '''[[User:JoeyDay|Joey]]''' ([[User talk:JoeyDay|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/JoeyDay|edits]]) 00:27, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh there it is. I figured there was some kinda wikipedia article on the subject, but I couldn't find it. That was just the site I used, but yea, the wikipedia one is far better. And I know it's not necessary, but I couldn't figure it out, so likely people that come along later won't be able to either. This way they can just turn to the help section, and it's all right there along with a Wikipedia color scheme. Thanks guys. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 07:11, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==Trogga==

[[User:FireBird|We]] have a problem with Trogga. He's been making alot of edits that boarder on Trolling. Just look at his [[User talk:Trogga|talk page]] and you'll [[Special:Contributions/Trogga|see what we mean]]. Make no mistake about it, he does make good edits too, but a large chunk of them are mass deletions of text. So what should we do? Is another big deletion grounds for blocking? Or should we continue to follow him around undoing his... overzealousness? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 01:22, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

:I know Joey has threatened to block him before. I know he makes some good edits, so just be careful we don't lose a good editor. If you feel he should be blocked, just make sure you give him fair warning (which I guess you have already) and keep it short (24h).[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Copywritten Reply==

[[Talk:Tastes Like Chicken Interview|Check it out]]. Ask and thou shalth recieve. He said to let him know either way, so should I just email back, thank him for his offer, and accept it? (I'm also gonna get to all the other interviews over the next couple days, start writing some letters...) ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 05:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

:Hey, something is better than nothing. Yeah, you should email him back and kindly accept with our gratitude. Just make sure you include all your emails back and forth on the discussion page. Good work![[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

::Do you have time for a legal question? I was just seeing the R!OT news radio page, that one apparently didn't even come with a website or transcript. Does that fall under 'fair use'? Same question with Wired News Radio. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:16, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

:::For the [[R!OT Radio Interview 1]], the best I could find was a [http://tvulive.com/contact.htm contact form]. I think we are okay with the transcript there, but we could still ask for information regarding the broadcast.
:::The [[Wired News Radio Interview]] has "© Copyright 2005, Lycos, Inc. All Rights Reserved." at the bottom. There's also a "Reprints" link at the top, that leads to [http://www.rsicopyright.com/ics/prc_main/select_usertype.html?prc=3.6289.4462850 a walkthrough] of copyright stuff. You'd want to choose the "All Other Licensing Requests" option there, and fill out that form.
:::Hope that helps.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:48, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Thanks man, that's perfect. One more legal question: Wonkavision. Is that fair use? Seems like reprinting stuff in a magazine that's still for sale wouldn't fall under that, but am I wrong? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 07:06, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

:::::Yeah, regarding the [[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]], I'm thinking that we can't reproduce it for the reasons you mention, but there's no harm in [http://www.wonkavisionmagazine.com/contact.html asking]. I'd also guess the [http://www.livejournal.com/community/homestar_runner/899307.html copy that exists elsewhere] doesn't have permission to be there.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Okay, well thanks for all that info, I'll just keep trying to work out all the legal bugs on that page then. Thanks. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 19:11, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

==pre==

Is there a way to make this formatting have a 'cascading' type result fitting the window, as is usually the case? All I ever get, save manually seperating the paragraph into managable lines, is having the paragraph extend endlessly to the right... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 05:00, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, what you experience is exactly what the <tt><pre></tt> tag is [http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/text.html#h-9.3.4 supposed to do]. Sorry.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:39, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

::Oh okay. But we're still supposed to use this when showing some kind of printed message, such as an email, correct? Because that's what I've been doing with the permission emails for reprintage on the talk pages. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 17:22, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

:::When quoting an email, you should use <code>blockquote</code> instead of <code>pre</code>. We should set up a style so that blockquoted text has a distinct look. Perhaps a bar down the left hand side like you get when replying to an email in Outlook. I've actually been wanting to get away from <code>pre</code> for some time now. I've proposed a change to Strong Bad Emails on the [[Talk:Strong Bad Email#New email format...|Strong Bad Email talk page]]. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:17, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

==SPACL?==

Have you seen [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]] lately, namely this '[[HRWiki:STUFF'd Project Activities Control League|SPACL]]' thing? Is this sanctioned at all? It doesn't really seem to fit into the wiki as a 'NPOV' type place at ALL. [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]], a user who's only been around a few months, and whom I've never even HEARD OF, has seemed to claim ownership of it as well, which really isn't a Wiki thing to do. I mean, not even Joeyday does much without a joint decision. I don't want to delete it or anything in case it is sanctioned, but I really think this needs a total overhaul at least, if not total deletion. Can't this thing just be covered under the [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts|STUFF]] page, or it's talk page? This is really starting to turn this Wiki into the direction of the Fanstuff one, something I really wouldn't want to see... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 19:20, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

:Eep. I don't that's what Joey had in mind, and it looks like he is taking care of it on the [[HRWiki talk:STUFF'd Project Activities Control League|talk page]] over there. Thanks for the heads up Thunderbird.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:33, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

==STUFF reform==
Hey, Tom. I've got a page I'd like you to check out. [[User:It's dot com/STUFF reform]]. It took me a long time to create it, and I would value your input. (You can use the talk page there.) Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:01, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry, but [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts#I don't think we need STUFF anymore|I don't think we need STUFF anymore]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
== Importante!! Importante!! ==
OK TOM! I give up! Everybody's been flicking my ear about some typa spyware or something on my computer that ''I've'' personally never seen a lick of. If what you say is true, do you, or anyone else, know how to '''DELETED''' the ware?
Your whatever,
[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
P.S. Everyone's been saying that it mangles pages. So sorry for mangling any pages.

:Who has been bothering you about this? Everybody? What ''I'' say is true? What are you talking about?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:01, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

::I can't edit my user page and alot of other stuff because whenever I click "edit", The screen says "USER IS BLOCKED. YOU HAVE BEEN BLOCKED BY TOM. HE SAYS THAT YOU HAVE SPYWARE THAT MANGLES PAGES. PLEASE CONTACT TOM." or something like that. So its been mostly you, but once in a blue moon, it pops from someone like Jay or someone else popular or important *sob*. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

:::Not exactly that. We don't use all capital letters in any of our site notices. It sounds like you are seeing the [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext|blocked notice]]. You see that part there that says "Your IP address is [your IP address here]. Please include this address in any queries you make." Yeah, I need your IP address to fix the problem. Or at least determine what's going on.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:17, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

::::He had a different complaint about some "dollar" deal that happened a while back... I think his IP address might be ever-shifting, but since I don't know what his IP address is... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:22, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Okay now. Just before I tell you my IP address, how do you find out your IP address (sorry, I've only been on HRWiki for 2 months or so, and I'm still trying to adapt and learn all thems weird whatsamajiggies you's abeen saying (like ''IP Address'')).

:There are multiple ways to go about it. One easy way would just be to log out and look at the upper-right corner of any page here on the Wiki, and it will tell you. Or you could go through your computer's settings. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:39, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

::It should be a seven or eight digit number or so, seperated by two periods. E.g: 43.202.18 or something. and Jay's right, the best way to find it is just sign out, and look on the top right of the wiki, or even just after signing out, leave a comment here that includes: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki>, Which is four little wavy signs that will be on the top left of your keyboard. (Likely 'Shift' + The top left button below esc). Are those instructions any better? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:50, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Actually it will be four numbers of up to three digits each - anything from 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255. But I'm a Comp Sci major who studied IP addresses as part of one of my classes last semester. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:21, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Jay and Thunderbird: IP addresses consist of 32 bits. A single bit is a one or a zero. IPv4 addresses are commonly expressed as a dotted quad, four octets (8 bits) separated by periods. Read [[Wikipedia:IP address|IP address]] for more information.
::::Cheatachu72: Try [http://www.ipchicken.com/ ipchicken.com].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:29, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

:::::Uh, yes, I know. I was just trying to explain what it would look like. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:46, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

::::::I didn't. Very... Interesting. Thanks guys. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} (Check Out My New And Improved Userpage! Comment On How To Make It Better!)

:::::::Sorry Jay, I didn't mean to imply that you didn't know. I just like putting the info out there. Oh, and I missed your last comment there. Whoops.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

== Banned? ==

Wow, Tom, you really were my favorite moderator right up until there. Why did you ban me? Do you not like me? Is ramrod the only person who fits your standards, and JelloB?--[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:22, 23 May 2005 (CDT)

== 70.92.150.43 ==

This guy is making quite a mess today. Can you ban him? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

:Done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:48, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks! But why only 72 hours? This is the 2nd time he's done this. If this isn't grounds for a permanent ban, I don't know what is! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:51, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Quite sadly, there's no such thing as a permanent ban. We can ban a particular IP address indefinitely, but ISPs assign users new IP addreses frequently, especially on dial-up. Banning any IP indefinitely is just as likely to block out legitimate users who inherit the blocked IP sometime down the road as it is to keep the troll from coming back. This is why we rarely use indefinite blocks. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 17:42, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

:I agree that guy's done too much damage. We've spent half an hour cleaning up after him. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]

== Yep, it's me ==

Is Tom the head of this place? I just became a user, and I want to put this right. PUT WAGON FULLA PANCAKES IN THE RIGHT PLACE. Really, i'm not stopping until it's done, make it a character, do you see a label on the Wagon Fulla Pancakes that makes him eatable? I don't. Please fix this, I don't know this formatting hullabaloo, but you sure do, so could you help me here? P.S. How do I make links from stuff? -Dinoshaur

:Excuse me? I don't understand.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:52, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Here's a question ==
On the new main page, do you know where the List of registered users is? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:52, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

:Nowhere. Try [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

== [[Mellow Mushroom]] ==

Tom, how do you [[Talk:Main_Page#More_interwiki_links.3F|know]] TBC only did the animation on MM? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 19:23, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

:They certainly don't make pizzas or own any part of the Mellow Mushroom company. They were hired to do the website. And if my memory serves me correctly, I think Matt did some radio commercials for them too. Why do you ask?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:30, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I know they only did the website, but why do you say the toons aren't written by TBC? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The toon that is on the site is pathetic. I hold TBC in too high a regard to say that they wrote it. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Trogga: Were the toons written by The Brothers Chaps?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Maybe. Why don't you ask [mailto:jeff@mellowmushroom.com this guy]? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Have you asked him already? Why don't you?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:30, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Mustachioed Homestar==
Why not have a separate page for this guy, at least temporarily? There are two Homstars visible which TBC made sure were different. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:31, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:From what I can tell, there is an article currently at [[Mustachioed Homestar Runner]]. Perhaps a better place to voice your concerns would be the [[Talk:Mustachioed Homestar Runner|respective talk page]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:58, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Banned? ==

Have you gone mad? [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 23:18, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:No.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:52, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::If you haven't, then why did you ban me from the IRC chat this time? Was it for inactivity? [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 03:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::No, you were not banned because of inactivity. You were banned because you annoy me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::And how do I annoy you? [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 23:23, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::::Seriously, man, this has gone on way too long. Please unban me. I don't even know why I annoy you. [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 04:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::::=Man, you threaten me for banishment, and you kick people off for annoying you! I'm going to report your threat to a more respected adminestrator and have you kicked off, You make me sick! In the past you have been helpful, what kind of twisted guy are you?=

==Balding Man's Living Room==

Why was that page baleeted? I thought it would be useful to create, but I guess not. Any reason why? [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 05:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You'll probably want to delete the corresponding screenshot with the page; without the page it's useless. I'll go ahead and tack a tobedeleted on the screenshot. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 05:07, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Homsar999: I didn't delete the page. You can check the [[Special:Log/delete|deletion log]] to see that [[User:FireBird|FireBird]] did. [[User:Trogga|Trogga]] marked it for deletion, probably because all it contained was "Balding Man's Living Room is where Balding Man lives. It is first seen in Senorial Day. We have yet to see the rest of his house." All I did was remove the links to the page from the rest of the Wiki.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:48, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::If it's because of content, then [[Ted Kotsaftis]] might as well be deleted and un-linked, as well. [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 03:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::As I mentioned earlier, I did not delete the page. Please take this up with [[User:FireBird|FireBird]] and [[User:Trogga|Trogga]]. The [[Ted Kotsaftis]] article is a stub with plenty of room to expand. Ted has worked on graphic design for [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Ted+Kotsaftis&filter=0 several other projects]. The room the Balding Man was in doesn't have the same potential. Why do you think this article would be useful?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:30, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== More Fanstuff Sysops ==
Do you think you and the other big admins could get a fanstuff sysop nomination going for the Fanstuff Wiki? There are only two active sysops there as of right now, and they get overwhelmed occassionally. For example, someone made a page that insulted a user and had profanity in the page title alone. Although several users find about it quickly and marked if for deletion, it stayed around for about two weeks before one of the sysops found it. It took even longer for the creator of the page to be banned. So... yeah, many users think more sysops are needed. Thanks for considering this, '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''.

:Okay. Consider it done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm a sysop! Hooray! Um, am I going to be the only new sysop, or am I supposed to set up a nominations page? -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 22:59, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:You're it. Good luck.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:02, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No nominations? Okay. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:08, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Sig ==
What does <code><nowiki>[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]</nowiki></code> do in your signature? I've wondered for a while. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:57, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I've had that there since the very beginning, when we starting using MediaWiki back in 1.3 beta. When I leave a comment, it allows me to put my four tildes right after the period. I could figure out how to do it differently with the new features in 1.4, but I'm kind of used to it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:57, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Deleters==
How do you become someone who deletes useless articles? And what's a "Sysop"?

: You sorta answered your own question - sysops are the people who delete articles, as well as block abusive users. JoeyDay and Tom select the sysops, but the last time they did, all but one of the new sysops were nominated on a special page by regular users. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm not asking you, Jay. And even though you responded, you didn't answer the question! I was talking to Tom!

:Umm, yes he did answer both of your questions. The first one is answered by ''"JoeyDay and Tom select the sysops"'', and the second question with ''"sysops are the people who delete articles, as well as block abusive users"''. '''Anyone''' can answer a question set on a talk page, even if they were not the intended reciever of that comment. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:29, 10 June 2005 (BST)

:: It's a Wiki -- anyone can respond on any talk page. And Jay's answer is correct. To continue the answer, however, the way you get nominated / chosen for a sysop is by making significant, useful edits (like undertaking large formatting projects) and showing good judgement in both your own edits and in dealing with other wiki-users. Reverting from trolls is also a good thing to do. It only happens when the existing admins are looking for new ones, which I'm guessing won't be for quite some time. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:33, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Speak in English Homestar Coder!

:What part didn't you understand? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

All of it!

:Very sorry, but I think the problem is on your end, not mine. Maybe Babelfish would be of assistance? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:42, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::That's the same thing you said when I told you all the reasons I wasn't keeping your "Message Board" page. With all due respect, is ''your'' first language English? I understood Aurora just fine. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:43, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::Aurora, Venusy, and Jay are right. Sanjuro, I don't know exactly what you didn't understand about what Aurora said, but I just got and replied to your email. If there is anything you need further clarification on, do not hesitate to ask.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:45, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Tom, what is wrong with me making a Message Board like the ones on AOL, where other members can feel free to post friendly messages with other members?

And Jay, how long did it take you to realize that it was I, Sanjuro/Balmung, whom was posting these messages?

: I knew it from the start - I've been following this discussion from [[Special:Recentchanges]], where it puts your user name or IP address next to every edit you make. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:: In addition, your name is listed in the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Tom&action=history page history] of this page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::Sanjuro, this is the Homestar Runner Wiki, a collaborative knowledge-base dedicated to collecting and organizing as much information as possible about [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]]. This is not a place for you to have a personal message board. This is not AOL. This is not your website.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I hate you Jay. So don't talk to me![[User:Sanjuro|Tim-E- Dee]] 22:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Look out Sanjuro, here comes the [[Heavy Lourde]]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Sanjuro, please do not edit or remove other people's comments.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:13, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Tom, Tomstiff's comment isn't reasonable and is offensive.

:Sigh. Y'all have shown remarkable patience. I'd have put the hammer down on this ... ''person'' ... long ago! My compliments! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:18, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I am sick and tired of you Tomstiff.

:So telling Jay you hate him and demanding that people "Speak English!" isn't offensive? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:23, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Sanjuro, I'd like to question your partiality in evaluating tomstiff's comment, when only two minutes before you expressed on this very page your hatred for another user. Wasn't your comment offensive?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::Sanjuro, my comment earlier was in no way an attempt to be offensive! It was merely an amusing way to warn you that expressing hatred towards another member of this community usually brings about a ban. If I offended you in any way, please, ''please'' forgive me! I remain, as ever, your wiki friend -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:28, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Don't talk to me like that Tom. I can, and will, track you down.

:Heh heh. I'm laughing at your petty threat. You better watch out, because in the past we've blocked people for threating others and making personal attacks. Consider this a formal warning.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:30, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Tomstiff, I found NOTHING amusing WHAT-SO-EVER about that comment of yours.[[User:Sanjuro|Tim-E- Dee]] 22:34, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Ooh, but ''I'' do. This is better than television. Somebody make the popcorn! Seriously, though—and I mean this with all friendliness possible—you're playing with fire here. I'm just a user, so I'm not warning you, just giving advice. Be careful. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:38, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Look, Sanjuro, you could be a great, useful Wiki-member, or you could bash, insult and threaten other members. The first would be nice, and the second will just get you banned and mocked. As Captain Planet would say, the choice is yours! (Wow, Tom, your talk page is too long, Clanky!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:43, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::OK, why is my sig appearing in a "pre" box? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:45, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::It sure is Aurora. I feel so loved. Oh, and it's the space after the newline.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::Maybe you should make a talk archive like some other users do. Oh, and thanks for fixing my sig ineptness. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:48, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::::No way. A long talk page is the coolest. And no problem, 'twas a common hard-to-spot mistake.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::::As long as we're all here, Tom, what did you mean yesterday when you said to hold off on the STUFF stuff? And I'm still curious about my question in the section right above this one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

Sanjuro is obviously upset that his work, although not useful, was unceremoniously trashed. He is expressing his anger in the wrong way, in my opinion, but it's at least understandable. I think he put <code><nowiki>{{tobedeleted}}</nowiki></code> on his user page in haste. Did it have to be deleted right away? If not, is there an undelete feature? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:54, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Oh, sure, it's easy to undelete. The entire old history has been saved. I wouldn't have done it if that were not the case (mostly because I have a feeling he thinks that those comments are gone forever). <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:57, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Yes, that's right. If necessary, a sysop can restore any version of any deleted page at any time. Only image deletion is permanent. However, the user in question's work on the aforementioned page was not unceremoniously trashed. It did not belong anywhere in the context of this project and was dealt with accordingly.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:59, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Oh, and It's dot com: Would you care to join me in the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|IRC channel]] to discuss the matter of STUFF? If not, I can reply here.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:01, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::I know it was dealt with accordingly, but ''to him'' his hard work was suddenly gone. I'm not defending the page, or even the user, I'm just saying we should let him cool down before granting his request to delete his user page altogether. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::IRC, eh, Tom? I saw one o' thems once. I'll head on over there now. Aurora, are you coming? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

This website is SO AWESOME! But I think that you guys shouldtake it easy on Sanjuro. By the sound of things (from which I read) all of your comments just made him more frustrated. Watch what you type to this member, cause it just might make him even MORE frustrated.
And Aurora, Captain Planet says "The power is yours", not "The choice is yours". No offense though.

:Ah, I had a feeling I would botch that quote, hehehe. Well, my point still stands. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Botch? What does that mean Aurora?

:Botch = to make a mistake or ruin something. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:45, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

So what happened here with Sanjuro? And... Where is he?

Okay. Who is this [[User:Balmung of Azure Sky]] member?[[User:Sanjuro|Tim-E- Dee]] 23:52, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Is anyone out there?

That depends on your definition of "is"

:I'm really sorry, but just ''reading'' through all this made me tired. I think everyone involved needed to have a rest. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Okay you. Where's Tom and Aurora? Tell me NOW! Cause I aient playing no games, I mean bussiness!

I'm sorry. Your request cannot be answered at this time. Please try again later, or leave a message after the tone.

Tom, Aurora? How DARE you ignore The GREAT Sanjuro?

:They aren't online right now. Calm down. Fix some hot cocoa and take some deep breaths. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 00:36, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Actually, I am online. Hot cocoa does sound good though. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::Well ''now'' you are. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 00:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::Chocolate? where? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Mmmm... Hot cocoa. I haven't had some of that stuff in a LLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG time!

Aurora? Are you still on?

== Deletion on my account please! It's too raw! ==

Yo Tom! What's up? I need you to do me a little favour. My accounts Sanjuro and Balmung? Yeah. Can you delete them? Thanks [[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]] 02:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC) P.S. [[User:Balmung]] not to be confused with [[User:Balmung of Azure Sky]]

:Tim, after reviewing the database, I can clearly see that you currently you have three accounts:
:#[[User:Balmung]] (user_id 788)
:#[[User:Sanjuro]] (user_id 789)
:#[[User:Balmung of Azure Sky]] (user_id 2001)
:The use of [[Wikipedia:Internet sock puppet|sock puppet]] accounts is highly discouraged. However, I will not delete any of these accounts, since an accurate article edit history record must be maintained. As I'm sure you can see, the user page for the first two accounts has already been deleted per your previous request. If you would like to put any other pages up for deletion, use the <nowiki>{{tobedeleted}}</nowiki> template tag.
:I recommend that you use one and only one of those accounts from this point forward.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Sanjuro...are you also [[User:Son Goku]]? If so please don't aquire any more accounts...that aint cool man. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:01, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Me? Son Goku? (L'sOL!) No way! That's my younger brother! We only have one computer that WE can use so if I'm to show him something, I have to Log Off so he can Log On!
[[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]] 19:10, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hmm i ''guess'' that proves me wrong. I just thought it was odd that your little brother would sign on, create a user page then within a few seconds you correct him online...but then again i'm weird.

What do you mean Tony Stony?

Its none of my business is what I mean...I just thought it weird. Btw it is possible to sign your posts with 4 tildes. Comme ca: [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:25, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah! It looks like you're doing like in your posts! You see: ~3x Is your siggy. and ~4x Is your siggy with time of posting. A like so.
[[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]] 3x...
[[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]] 19:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) 4x!
So much for "Three times is a charm" huh?
[[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]] 19:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

And five displays just the date. Learn something new everyday... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} And just the date: 01:42, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== STUFF stuff ==
Afternoon, Tom. I've been busy all morning closing out old STUFF discussions. I have a little ways to go, though. Also, I wonder if we could speak more about how the page should be redesigned before anything major is done to it. Put a note on my [[User_talk:It's dot com|talk page]] and I'll meet you in the IRC. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Sure.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:27, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm back, as promised. Are you around? I'm monitoring the IRC. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Hey Tom. I am making good progress:
:*[[HRWiki:stuff test1|A mock-up article]]
:*[[Template:STUFF/stuff test1|The resulting STUFF subpage]]
:*[[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts/stuff_test3|The index (which will become the STUFF main page)]]
:*Plus all the templates so far

:Yet to do:
:*Organize/polish the instructions
:*Create the templates for closed facts
:*Have other users test the ease of use
:*Convert current items to new format

:The hardest part isn't figuring out how this will work. The hardest part isn't even figuring out how to streamline the process to minimize keystrokes and errors. No, the hardest part is figuring out how to explain it so that novices can understand.

:I was hoping to go live today, but I see that ''that's'' not going to happen. Now I'm hoping to go live by midweek. (Right this second, however, I'm hoping to go get some good sleep.) Let me know how you think it's going. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Update: Getting very close now. I've just about nailed it all down. That's enough for tonight... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:16, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::You seem like you've got everything under control. If you need me for anything specific, let me know. Good work.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:13, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The main format is ready to go live. We are in the [[HRWiki:stuff test index|public testing stage]] now. Once we work out any bugs, all that will remain will be to convert the existing facts to the new format. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:35, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Seriously. ==

Unban me from the IRC chat. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 00:05, 21 Jun 2005 (CDT)

== Admin Nomination ==

I'm sure we're not looking for any new sysops after this thing in April, but I think [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] would be a great sysop. He seems to be working harder around here than any of us sysops anyways, and he always seems to have good judgement. I'd love to have him on the team. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 22:47, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I can't remember the specific instance, but in the last day or so I've thought to myself, "Isn't BazookaJoe an admin?", so whatever was going on at the time must have been good. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:17, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::I always forget that he ''isn't'' an admin, because he uses the same "reverted from (whoever) to last version from (whoever)" message. I guess he types it in manually... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 00:29, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::True, but he has only been around for a little over two months. There are some users that have been around significantly longer that I think are also deserving of sysopness. I do like the guy, and would be happy if he became a sysop, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Admins leave it a few months yet before opening another Nomination Window. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:46, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Question ==

On the picture of you are you the one on the left or right I'm guessing you're on the right because the left one looks not happy, but it doesn't look like matt because of the hair.

:I'm in the Duck Shirt and jacket. [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] (not [[Matt Chapman|Matt]]) is in the red shirt with the scarf.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:37, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::And it isn't that Mike is unhappy... He apparently just takes [[User:DaChazman|bad pictures]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:16, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for answering my question guys, and uh that link to bad pictures looks like Matt is wearing that same shirt as the picture on this page.

:Yeah, they were taken less than five minutes apart at the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|NYU Talk on Mar 1, 2005]]. In fact, you can actually see a bit of my head in the background of DaChazman's photo.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:57, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Forum namespace ==

How come there's not a convenient external namespace for the forum? You know, so that <nowiki>[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=XXXX] could be replaced with [[Forum:XXXX]]</nowiki>, or something similar. How's our bandwidth lookin'? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:04, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:That's not a bad idea, I'll look into that. Though you should probably remind me after next Monday. Our bandwidth is still looking, but I think we are down to the final hours here.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:04, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Will do. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:::Here is the reminder you requested. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:17, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::Done. Example: <nowiki>[[Forum:15|thread 15]]</nowiki> becomes [[Forum:15|thread 15]]. Oh, and just so I remember for next time, they are interwiki links, not namespaces.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:52, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== On the wiki ==

I'm working on the transcripts as fast as I can... what, do you think I eat, sleep, and breathe Homestar Runner... don't answer that. ;) Seriously, we're working on them. But having Mike mention that he read something on our wiki has got to be the ultimate prize for us. It's like, poring over all the crazy details that we do has, in a small but significant way, paid off. I think we should permit ourselves in this case to announce it in big, bold letters. Or at least in italics. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:What?!?! Where 'bouts was this? First I've heard of it. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:17, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::The [[animal]] commentary. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 03:19, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::Yup.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:20, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::Wow, awsome! Kudos to [[Special:Contributions/66.120.157.219|66.120.157.219]], the one who originally left the Compound Eyes fun fact. He never really made all that many edits, but who would have guessed it was one of the most important edits of all... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:06, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Goofs vs. Typos ==

"Goofs" are mistakes TBC make; for the purposes of our discussion, ''Strong Sad'' made these mistakes. We don't note mistakes Strong Bad makes in his emails as Goofs; rather, we note them in the Remarks. Since there were enough of Strong Sad's mistakes for a whole section, I changed it to "Typos". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:07, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I'm not really the guy who would know the difference. I only made that change for two reasons:
:#"Typos" isn't one of the ways we categorize Fun Facts. [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts|Goofs is]].
:#The Francis Scott Key fact is a Goof. I knew it wasn't a typo, so I changed the header to Goofs for lack of a better choice for that particular grouping.
:That being said, the Key fact is probably the only one of the four that are currently under that header that really is a Goof. The typos by Strong Sad should probably be moved to another section. Maybe Remarks?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:35, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Goofs may be our standard category, but we are flexible enough to accomodate a special category on a toon-by-toon basis. For example, [[50_emails#Homestar.27s_attempts_at_DELETED|Homestar's attempts at Deleted]]. I think these should be grouped together since there are several of them. How about "Strong Sad's Goofs", or "Strong Sad's Mistakes", or something similar? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:42, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::I think we should ask [[User:Jay|Jay]]. He's the Keeper-Tracker.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:59, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I think I'll just copy the discussion from 22:42 on up over to the article's talk page. Then, everyone can have a say. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:08, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::Sounds good to me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:10, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

''(see [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament#Goofs vs. Typos|Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]] for more)''

== You are appreciated ==

I was looking over your talk page, and it's been way too long since someone wrote to tell you thanks for all the work and maintenance you put into the site. Thank you! I was propted to tell you this today when I saw that, simply by my uploading an image, you created a new template to replace the makeshift GFDL blurb I had on the image; created a new category for other existing, similar images; and then sought out those five other images that should be in the category and added the template there as well—all within the blink of an eye! I would hope that we all make the wiki experience a little better for those around us, and I must say you certainly do that. And then some. Sincerely, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:Hey, you're welcome. It's my pleasure.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:33, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Defacement? ==

What, did you think I made up that picture of the Trogdor beanie? I'm not that skilled with Photoshop. Check the Store before you assume defacement. ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:59, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah. I tried to fix it but you beat me to it. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:00, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::No probalo. I thought it was defacement too but decided to check the Store on a whim, and lo and behold... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:02, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Patrolled Fanstuff ==
Hey, can you edit ''LocalSettings.php'' section of the fanstuff to get rid of those red "patrolled" explanation points in the recent changes there? We really don't need or want them. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:Before I do anything, I'd like to see the discussion that took place when deciding this. Where is it?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:20, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh, well that's a problem. It was on a poll on the second Fanstuff Forum, which is offline for an indefinite amount of time. (it seems that its host quit) I'll create a new poll if you want me to, but I don't think that's nessecary. But if you go there and look at the recent changes, you'll see red exclamation points as far as the eye can see. We don't use them. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:Done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:52, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Vugarity==
I went on the all user list page and I noticed that there were alot of vulgar term and slang. Can you clear this up Sincerly former user vile.exe

:Yeah, I'm going to have to do that. Note to self: do that soon.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:20, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==I'm back==
I former vandel[I was the guy who defiled trogdor and charectars a couple monthes ago thanks for unblocking me I have changed my ways don't ban me I am a good guy I swear] current editor and megaman fan [[User:Vile.exe]] have returned.Drop me a line on my talk page for proof.

:Okay.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:07, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Banned. Again. Again. ==

OK, Tom, ''please'' tell me why I am banned this time. Are you having a bad day? --[[User:Homsar999|HomsarAnnoyed]]

== Fanstuff ==

'Scuse me, but I can't get into the Fanstuff wiki. It just shows 404'd every time. What's up with that? It was working a few seconds ago... --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 18:31, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Whoops. On it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:34, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Fixed. [[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:46, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff wiki ==

Can you please, PLEASE, unlock the Fanstuff wiki? [[User:H*R 700|H*R 700]]

:If you bothered to check, you'd see it has already been unlocked.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:23, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, thank you. [[User:H*R 700|H*R 700]]

== FINALLY!! ==
TOM! TOM! It's over! I can edit stuff! You can remove the notice! [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

:Did you read the notice? Have [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice&oldid=143018 a look].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:30, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Favourite User Award Winner==

Congrats [[User:Tom|Tom]]

''You have won the favourite user award for this week.''

'''Here is your trophy'''

[[Image:fav user awards.PNG]]

From your ''HRwiki'' friend,{{User:Pertmywert/sig}}

''If you would like to view the older winners please go'' [[User:Pertmywert/fuawinners|''here'']]''.''

== Personal JavaScript ==

I got a little curious and decided to check out your user JavaScript. What exactly does it do? I tried copying it into my own personal JS, but I didn't see any changes in the preview. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 21:30, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:It duplicates the links for the tabs at the top of every page on the bottom. I think you might have to have accompanying personal CSS to style it. That should be in my user CSS somewhere.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:38, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Judging by your CSS, it seems that way, so that would explain why I didn't see any change - thanks. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 22:02, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::No problem.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:03, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==HI!!!==
i love u
-fhqwhgadshgnsdhjsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf

:Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:54, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Ooooh, quite the pairing. A 35 letter name with a 3 letter name. I can see sparks flying already. Or is that just my avian thunder...?

== A thankyou ==

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2. Thanks for sorting out an embarrassing mix-up with "hide patrolled edits", and not noticing someone else had already reverted the vandalism I was trying to revert. Still trying to get the hang of this Wiki thing ;)
--[[User:Tigz|Tigz]] 22:38, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:No problem.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:12, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Note from Thechamp==

Hello, Tom. My name is The champ, please forgive my past Trolling for it was my brother who commited the crime. I left the states for a month or so during this period and had no access to a comp. where I was staying in Canada. I rebuked my brother for his crimes and hope that you may forgive him, I am sory.

Sincerely,
[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 22:10, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Okay.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:10, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, I am sory, again. He didn't mean any harm by talkin to the trolls, he hates it when people start skrewin with thing that people work hard on. -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 01:30, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Help, Please==
How do I add pictures to articles? -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 13:09, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:See [[Help:Editing#Images]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== I found a troll! ==
66.82.9.39 is the IP address. It was a troll in the fanstuff wiki. Battle of Homestar High. [[User:Seek Bar|DonZabu]]

:Which of [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&hideminor=0&namespace=&target=66.82.9.39&limit=100&offset=0 their edits] are you talking about?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:16, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== It was a joke, not a defacing ==

dude?

:Thechamp, I'm assuming you are referring to my recent deletion of a discussion page (Talk:No Loafing Sign) you started that simply contained "You heard um, No loafing!". Your edit was defacement. Discussion pages exist to discuss articles and their content, not for you to attempt to make jokes or be funny. As such, taking into consideration your previous behavior on the Wiki, especially your edits in the past day and your failure to heed my three direct warnings, you have been blocked from editing for ten days.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:13, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Bannination ==
OK, can I please be unbanned from the HRWiki chat? --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar]]

== Apology ==

Hello. I am very sorry for what happened a year ago. You might not remember. But, I ruined the Commentary Transcript for Experimental Film. I just want to say that I am sorry. I used to be known as [[User:210.49.167.191|210.49.167.191]]. -[[User:mitchell00|Mitchell00]] 07:21, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Okay.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:59, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Update Marker==
Hey Tom! I was just wondering what that Update Marker is for. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 17:20, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:It's a new feature in [[HRWiki:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.5|MediaWiki 1.5]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:29, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 17:30, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== delete Bkmlb ==

Hi Tom! It's kind of annoying to have a period at the end of my name, so could you please delete [[User:Bkmlb]]? If I remember correctly, I think he was a troll impersonator.--{{User:Bkmlb./sig}} 17:26, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:30, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you, very much.--{{User:Bkmlb./sig}} 17:31, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== How do you... ==

How do you get on to the old wiki? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:What information do you need from it?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:24, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, I just wanted to check it out, if thats alright with you and JoeyDay. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} Not logged in.

:The old Wiki is not easily available. What information do you need from it?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:42, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, okay. I don't have to go there. I just wanted to see the users, and all that stuff. But, anyways, us at the fanstuff wiki want 1 of our 4 Admins, to be come a Burecrate. Most people think Rainer's the best choice. Tom, can you make one of our Admins, a Burecrate? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:No, not at this time.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:45, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Alright. [[User:216.55.218.23|216.55.218.23]]
:Eh, don't listen to him. :P We were just considering it; many people haven't even voiced their opinion yet. (And honestly, I never expected you to do it anyway.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:59, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Changing Names ==

Hey, I know I bug you alot, but there always a reason. Anyways, can you make a changing names page one the Fanstuff Wiki? I want to change my name, really badly. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:There already is one. See [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki:Changing username]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:47, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Commend...a..tion? ==

I have to say that you are the man, and I would like to commend you for making your edits and changing everyone's usernames. You rock, man. --[[User:Daunrealist|daunrealist]] 19:16, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:35, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

::I'm just wondering, when do you think the next Admin nomination will be? I was thinking of nominating someone (not me), but is it annually, biannually, or what? --[[User:Daunrealist|daunrealist]] 21:06, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:::When it's necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Cool. --[[User:Daunrealist|daunrealist]] 02:06, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== April Fools Name Change ==

I know it's a while off, but I just thought I'd ask know. Would I be allowed to have my username changed for April Fools, and then have it changed back the next day? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 06:48, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

:No.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:35, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

==What the?==
Why'd you block [[User:68.39.179.135]]? He wasn't trolling. He was just behaving a little newbish. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:Because of the edits he made on [[Image talk:homestarquiz.PNG]], [[Talk:Tee Bee]], and [[Image talk:stinkogamethumb.png]]. And did I say anywhere that he was trolling?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:13, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

::That seems harsh for someone who seemed to be trying to contribute honestly. Maybe a warning about what sort of behavior is okay would have been better? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:17, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Unblocked. Feel free to warn.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:20, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

On the other hand, is 24 hours enough for someone who is being disruptive and should know better? ([[User:Billy Bob Bob|Billy Bob Bob]]) I was gonna block him till the weekend before Coder beat me to it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool, thanks Tom. If you want to up that ban, Ben, then that's fine with me. I just usually do 24 hours for a first offender. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:26, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

::Then I'll leave it like it is. But if he yells and makes personal attacks again... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:28, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Invitations ==
So, what's up with these invitations-to-anonny's-to-create-accounts dealies? I love the idea; is the concept to extend indiscriminately to all except trolls, or to use in those "Whoa—that was a beneficial edit! Why is this guy an IP?" situations? I ask because [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=24.30.124.162 24.30.124.162] seems to be rather articulate and wikiliterate. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:39, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

:In this case, it was mostly the latter. Though I have to admit, it's not [[User talk:65.25.31.135|the]] [[User talk:69.139.163.12|first]] [[User talk:204.117.94.78|time]] I've done it.
:The person you mention there, if I'm not mistaken, is [[Wikipedia:User:Metaeducation]]. They actually caused a tiny ruckus on Wikipedia back in May 2005 that involved a HRWiki template thing. See [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Deleted/May 2005#Template:Hrwiki]] and [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Not deleted/June 2005#Template:Memoryalpha]] for some details. (And I wish we could still get at the conversation found at [[Wikipedia:Special:Undelete/Template talk:Hrwiki|Template talk:Hrwiki]] where Joey and I questioned the template, but we can't.)[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:59, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
::Holy cow. So does the fact that the template doesn't exist mean it ''was'' deleted? And are we a sister wiki? Meanwhile, is inviting anonnys strictly a sysop thing, or can anyone? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:17, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Yes, the Hrwiki template was deleted, the link is for the discussion that occured prior to its deletion. The Memoryalpha one was not, that is the discussion that occured prior to the decision to keep. We are not a sister wiki to Wikipedia. We have nothing to do with the [[Wikipedia:Wikimedia|Wikimedia Foundation]] or any of its projects. Our Wiki runs on the same software, [[Wikipedia:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]], but that's pretty much where it ends. As for inviting, it's a wiki, I encourage you to '''be bold'''.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:47, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

== 64.9.51.190 ==

Hey, Tom. I was just wondering why you ended up blocking IP 64.9.51.190. I looked at what happened, and it turns out that his addition to [[H*R.com updates]] was correct. There is a new quote, fan stuff, and sketch book. You probably found or saw something that I didn't, so you probably have a very legitement reason. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:49, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

:Fixed already. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:50, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

::I kept reverting his work 'cause in my eyes I didn't think that we'd need that on there. Plus he kept on changing it. -- [[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]]

:::But that page is our listing of all Homestar Runner updates, why wouldn't what he added belong there?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:23, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

== I can't find the IRC chat... ==

Where's it at?
[[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]]

:Please see [[HRWiki:IRC channel]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:24, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks man. -- [[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]]

==Emails==
just wondering, what were the context of the emails that RHRN sent you? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:52, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

:Nah, it's not worth it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:57, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Something tells me that I should be thanking you for that. A lot. Thanks anyway. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== unlocking uploading ==

Okay Tom, here's my problem. I am a bureaucrat at the [http://ebwiki.spoonybard.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Eskimo Bob Wiki] and we just moved to new software. The uploading is locked. How do I unlock it?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 12:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, we need to know soon. Theres alot of blank images, and we REALLY need to fix that. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

::Who upgraded the software? Did they reconfigure LocalSettings.php correctly? And the directions for enabling uploads can [[MetaWikipedia:LocalSettings.php#Image_Uploads|found in the User's Guide]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Pertmywert owns the wiki. He upgraded it. So, does that mean you'll have to ask him about it? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

::::If Pertmywert is the only one with access to the files on the server, then yes. He needs to modify one line of his LocalSettings.php file to allow uploads. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:19, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::Okay. I'll alert him ASAP. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

::::::Also note that the upgrade instructions exist as [http://ebwiki.spoonybard.com/UPGRADE part of the archive that Pertmywert uploaded].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:36, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

== Bureaucrat rights ==

Hello Tom! It's me again, the guy who always bugs you for help. I need to know all about Bureaucrat rights. Since, I am a Bureaucrat at [[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert's]] [http://ebwiki.spoonybard.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Eskimo Bob Wiki]... {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Please read [[MetaWikiPedia:Setting user rights in MediaWiki#bureaucrat|the documentation]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:52, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Okay. So, I can't unlock/lock the Database? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Did you read the page? [[MetaWikiPedia:Setting user rights in MediaWiki#developer|Try reading it again]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:00, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for showing me that, Tom. I'll remember that. By the way, I know you a Developer and all that, but you should archive this. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Thanks for your consideration. I'll keep your suggestion in mind.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:11, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== Um... ==

Why am I banned from #hrwiki? Was I trolling or something? --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 16:52, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

:What's your IRC username? What's your IP address? What did you do to get banned from the channel? Are you sure you're banned, or are you just getting errors when you try to connect?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:18, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

:I usually go by thatkidsa [sic]. My IP is 72.145.188.197. I only went on there twice, and the only thing I might have done that angered people is... Having little knowledge of the IRC code 'n such. And I'm pretty sure I'm banned... --Thatkidsam (NLI) 21:03, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

<blockquote>#hrwiki You're banned from that channel</blockquote>

::Okay, you should be good now. There was a fairly broad ban in there that you got caught up in.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:02, 6 November 2005 (UTC).

== Question about the bad_image_list problem ==

I'm a contributor over on another wiki and I was wondering how you solved the problem discussed on [[HRWiki_talk:Upgrade_to_MediaWiki_1.5#Database error]]. It's happening on ours and Google, the MediaWiki site, and the MW Bugzilla haven't yielded any info. But, it Google did link to that talk page. Any info you can provide will help. Thanks. --[[User:68.142.13.101|68.142.13.101]] 03:50, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

:Hi there. Drop me an email at [mailto:tom@hrwiki.org tom@hrwiki.org] and I'll give you all of the details.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:14, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff ==
Can you, um, temporarily lockdown the Fanstuff WIki? Quick? The apocalypse is happening... or at least the same problem that struck this place a few days back. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:46, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, because the fanstuff is about to be virtually DESTROYED!! - {{Stinkoman K/Sig}} 02:55, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Dangit! I thought nobody was there so I trolled the mainpage under the name of Michely00 for some reason. So ban me when ever you get this problem sorted out. Please. {{User:Bassium!/sig} P.S. If I am banned I will reside at the Porple Montage wiki.

:New-user registration and anonymous editing have been disabled. Please leave your pants in the on and upright position. Thank you.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:07, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Why come? Too many WikiTrolls? o.o; [[User: Kiwi|I don't get it]]

:More information is available on the [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki:Big Old Tree/NSMC Troll: Anyone can help!|fanstuff wiki]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:32, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Can you... um... help again? The trolls attacking with the 3000+ accounts he had created. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:03, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:Yeahhhhhh, sorry to bug you again, but we really need it. I say kill them at the source. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 02:20, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::I've got my best men working on it 'round the clock.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:10, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:Who keeps on allowing new user registration on the Fanstuff Wiki?! He keeps on allowing the NSMC bot to attack again and again!! Ugh, it's so annoying... it should be in lockdown until you find out how to stop him for good. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:10, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, seriously. I wish there was something that would appear in the Recent Changes that would tell us if something like this was enebled or disabled. But, whatever. It's up to you guys. Oh, and also, why is there a User Creation Log? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 13:31, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

:::The User Creation Log is useful for tracking if a bot or other vandal creates multiple accounts. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::But it gets annoying during very large troll attacks such as this. Man, I wish more sysops were on! --[[User:Color Printer|Color]] [[User talk:Color Printer|Printer]] 13:48, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

:::I just wish there were more sysops! {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 18:18, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Joshua: I keep allowing new-user registration and anonymous edits on the fanstuff wiki. With your proposed solution, how am I supposed to know if something is stopping the vandal "for good" if registration is still locked down?
::::H*R 700: Check the sitenotice that appears on every single page of the wiki. It will let you know if new-user registration and anonymous editing are disabled.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:08, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I understand, but the Fanstuff Wiki is tiring of being this wiki's guinea pig. I understand that this wiki is more important than it, but this is the FOURTH consecutive attack, the second of which is due to being tested upon. More and more troll accounts are being created, and then there's all the troll edits, which bots can't seem to revert. Here there are hundreds of active users to revert problems, but in the fanstuff wiki the number's closer to forty. Several users are becoming dishearted even to the point of leaving because of having to revert pages again and again and again due to all these attacks. Is there any other way? I'm not sure if the Fanstuff Wiki can survive many more attacks. :/ - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:48, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::What would you like me to do? What's your solution? I have absolutely no problem at all taking the fanstuff wiki offline completely. Would that be acceptable?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:00, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

::I wouldn't normaly say this, but if that's what you have to do, do it soon. I can't stand anymore of this crap. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 23:13, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Temporarily or forever? And what would that solve? (And taking it off forever is not acceptable - too many users love the Fanstuff Wiki.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:14, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

It would probably only be temporay (Er, however you spell it). Okay, I have a dumb idea; How about if we get some kind og supream hacker to hack the NSMC bot and shut it down or something? Trust me, we may not know how to do it, but if we got a supream hacker, then we'll be going somewhere. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 23:17, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Here's the problem: when you test it, he usually attacks when no bureaucrats are online to stop him. So here's an idea: when you want to test something, enable new users and stuff for a little bit and then DUPLICATE the effects of the troll (without all the damage) and see what happens. When your done and you have your results, disable the new users again. That way the Fanstuff Wiki won't be prone with no bureaucrats online. Um... only if you can duplicate his attacks, that is. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:18, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

:Er, I didn't understand that. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 23:19, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Wait a minute, it appears Tom has a souloution. Check the Wiki. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 23:24, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

What does "trusted" mean as a user group?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 23:35, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:It probably means you'll be safe when Tom obliberates (or just blocks :P) the non-trusted. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::...or they could be getting temporary sysop powers... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:42, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::All editing was suspended below the sysop level. To enable other users to revert, the "trusted" group was created until all the vandal usernames have been blocked. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I'm user homestarmy from the fanstuff, and I'd like to be added to the trusted group to help revert pages! Thanks - [[HRFWIKI:User:Homestarmy|Homestarmy]]
:Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===Status report===
*All malicious usernames from yesterday have been blocked infinitely.
*Logged-in editing by general users has been restored.
— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:59, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

:Okay then, so...now that we have it temporarily on lockdown, when will people able to create new accounts again? Because I really wanted to create and fanstuff account, but I can't. {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 19:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

::New accounts will be enabled as soon as possible.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:29, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== NYU Talk ==

Hey since you were there do you know where I can find a copy of the NYU Talk? I really wished it could see it. [[User:NOT Billy Bob Bob|NOT Billy Bob Bob]] 20:44, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

:See the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]] article. The entire presentation is transcribed there.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:13, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

==Hola==
I figured that it would be cool to say hi to you since you're the big administrator of the site, so I guess that I just did.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 22:29, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

:Hi.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:11, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

==Query==

I have a question: Why is new user registration and anonymous editing still disabled? I think that the NSMC troll is pretty much in the past.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 19:46, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

:New-user registration, anonymous editing, and all MediaWiki email features have been temporarily disabled because of a vandal. Why do you think that the vandalism is "in the past"? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:09, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

::I just thought that the NSMC troll would have gotten the message and backed down. That's all. I was also thinking that since there are new people discovering this site every day it would be good for them to be able to contribute and have their say on things.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 22:52, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

:::Okay. Thank you for your concern. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:40, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

==kinda weird...==
I was wondering, why do you sign your posts with: <nowiki>[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]]</nowiki>? can't you just sign it as <nowiki>[[User:Tom|Tom]]</nowiki>? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:51, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

:See [[#Sig]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:09, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::Ah, I see. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:32, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

== Just a thought ==

<s>Do you ever scan around on user pages to say hi to people or are your duties mainly keeping the site on track and awesome?--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 17:43, 16 December 2005 (UTC)</s>

:No. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:57, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

== Just a thought ==

<s>Do you ever scan around on user pages to say hi to people or are your duties mainly keeping the site on track and awesome? I'm asking because I have never seen your sig on anybody's guestbooks.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 17:44, 16 December 2005 (UTC)</s>

:No. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:57, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

::Sorry. Posting error. See below. {{unsigned|Homsarroks|18:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)}}

== Just a thought ==

Do you ever scan around on user pages to say hi to people or are your duties mainly keeping the site on track and awesome? I'm asking because I have never seen your sig on anybody's guestbook. Also, did you start this wiki or are you just a major contributer?--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 17:44, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

:No. And no. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:57, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

== HRWiki Tour ==
This has been suggested elsewhere, but so far has been ignored by anyone in power. I asked JoeyDay, but he then decided to take a vacation. Then It's Dot Com, but he ignored it. So, let's see if someone will listen to the suggestion here.

A few people think that the [[HRWiki:Tour]], which currently has no solid page linking to it, should be the third tab in [[HRWiki:Introduction]]. Do you agree? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:53, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

:I didn't ignore it. In fact, I already replied at the only place there should be a discussion: namely, the [[HRWiki_talk:Tour#Location|tour talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

::I didn't ignore it either. I've been following the progress of the discussion, and didn't feel I needed to comment. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:00, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

== E-mail Features ==
Annony editing and new account creation are up, but what about the e-mail features? They still don't appear to be working. Is this intentional, or an oversight? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 10:58, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:It's Dot Com says that they aren't quite ready yet. They'll be working with a Catchpa system soon. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:11, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

==IRC==

I have a quick question, would you be able to come to the IRC channel for a second? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:51, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

:Sure. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:55, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

== Appreciation ==

Hey Tom! I just wanted to tell you that I appreciate what you and the other sysops do for the wiki. I know if it was not for you guys, thw Wiki would not be what it is now. I just want to say thank you! [[User:70.153.100.100|70.153.100.100]] 21:07, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

:You're very welcome. It's my pleasure. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:32, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== Wikipedia ==

Hey Tom it's me. I haven't been on for a while so I'm sorta lost. Where's the Wikipedia at? I need to look up that "F-Zero's 'All your Base Are Belong to Us'" thing again.
~~{{unsigned|Sanjuro|23:58, 1 January 2006 (UTC)}}

:[http://en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:04, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks pal. And Happy New Year! [[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]]

== I think you may have accidentally gotten rid of the updates ==

Hey Tom it's I. A while ago I posted the new updates, and now they aren't there anymore, and it said you blocked me. --[[User:216.120.190.119|216.120.190.119]]

:Care to explain how "URI changed (may take a while for browser to detect DNS settings)." works? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:09, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

::I dunno, I heard it on TV I think. [[User:216.120.190.119|216.120.190.119]]

:::Thanks, that clears that up. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:11, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

::::Good, I was hoping that would clear things up, now everything's fine, right? Thank me later. --[[User:216.120.190.119|216.120.190.119]]

:::::No, that cleared up for me the fact that you were actually defacing the page. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:28, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

==Guestbook==
Make a Guestbook.{{User:The thing/sig}} 22:46, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

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:The thing, this is spam. Do not do it again. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:01, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

::OK{{User:The thing/sig}}14:50, 7 January 2006 (UTC)~

==Apologizing==

Hi there, Tom. I replied to your message about my edit summary, but you didn't reply back. So I decided to reply here. I just want to apologize for the language. And sorry it took a while to reply to you. I had an emergency that kept me from replying. I just want you to know that it won't happen again. Anyway, sorry about it. [[User:Happy|Happy]] 21:58, 6 January 2006 (EST)

:Okay. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:02, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

== Username redirect ==

Hi Tom, while JoeyDay is out, I'm asking you this: Can I have a userpage redirect to mine? I was thinking about [[User:Elcool]], because my freinds sometimes look for me on the wiki, not by my correct name. Some other users could use a redirect with common misspellings. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:23, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:It's not unheard of... [[User:Thunderbird]] redirects to [[User:Thunderbird L17]]'s page, although I dunno if he got permission for that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::E.L. Cool, this leads to an interesting line of thought. We could take this in two directions:
::#We do not allow users to have redirects from common misspellings etc. to their correct username. We never have allowed someone to have "two" userspaces, and this would go along with that semi-policy. Then, someone comes along and registers [[User:Elcool]] and starts making edits. Someone like [[User:It's dot com]] or myself would then approach this user and ask that they choose a new name, since the one they chose is too close to the existing user [[User:E.L. Cool]]. (This comes to mind because it happened [[User talk:It's dot org|quite recently]].) Then I suppose we'd block the [[User:Elcool]] account so it wouldn't happen again. At that point, if you came and asked if you could have that page redirect to your own, I don't think I'd be able to say "no".
::#We do allow users to have redirects from common misspellings etc. to their correct username. We'd probably want to set up a process for this, however, because if people just started doing this willy-nilly, we might get people registering for usernames that were already redirects. We'd want to make sure what ever names were redirected where blocked as well.
::I also don't think I'd want this to become a normal thing, where everyone and their grandmother goes and thinks of all the possible permutations of their username and then goes and makes dozens of redirects. I don't think it's altogether too common that this kind of thing would happen.
::DorianGray, the redirect you bring up has a different intent associated with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Thunderbird&action=history its history], and at this point is an exception.
::So at this point, hold off on doing anything for a while. I'm going to want to get Ben's input on how we should handle it, but as of right now, it looks like it could happen. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:05, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, sure. I wasn't even thinking of making it informal. Just make it like the Username Change page where people will ask before they do something. And ok, I'll hold. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:17, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
::::(comment only): I think Thunderbird registered the name [[User:Thunderbird|Thunderbird]] before he did that. [[User:Ed smildE|Ed smilde]]/[[User talk:Ed smildE|talk]]
:::::I have pondered similar issues to this one in the past. I am open to the idea, although I agree that to just turn everybody loose would not be the best course to take. For one thing, I don't like having user pages that don't correspond to a username in the database. I would like to consider how the problem might be solved elegantly (along the lines of a Special page or something) versus creating and blocking usernames that will never be used. Let me think on it and I'll tell you what I come up with. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:04, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

== Robots.txt ==
You seem to be the senior sysop around here (I think), so while JoeyDay isn't here, I'll ask you instead.

The Robots.txt file at http://hrwiki.org/robots.txt has this:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /index.php/HRWiki:Sandbox
...which disallows just the Sandbox. However, the Robots.txt file at http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/robots.txt has this:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /
...which disallows everything. Why is this? Can you change it? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 07:11, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

:It's like that because we (The Admins) do not want the fanstuff wiki indexed by anything. And sorry, but no we aren't going to change it. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:32, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
::Why don't the admins want it indexed? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:43, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

:::The primary reason is so that it doesn't show up in search engines. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:12, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

::::...and why don't the admins want it showing up in search engines? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 16:13, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::Because it isn't built on strictly canon material. In other words, the knowledge base documents and adheres as closely as possible to the cartoons and concepts found on H*R.com as written by TBC, whereas any fanstuff is by definition made up by somebody other than TBC. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:20, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

::::::What does that have to with the Fanstuff showing up in search engines? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 17:15, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::[[User:It's dot com]] is correct, but the reasoning behind our decision was slightly different. The fanstuff wiki was only created to appease a small minority that wanted fanstuff brought back after we decided not to bring it back when we moved to MediaWiki. The Admins didn't want the fanstuff wiki, but relented due to what I can only call persistent whining. One of the conditions of our creating fanstuff was to make sure that search engines did not index it. This was for two reasons:
:::::::#We are very protective of the HRWiki name. We do not administer fanstuff closely enough to control the quality of the content.
:::::::#And as It's dot com mentioned, we don't want anyone searching for actual Homestar Runner knowledge to be confused with what they find there.
::::::: -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== Bot-assisted stuff ==

Would you be able to change all links from [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items]] to [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items]]? When I moved the page, there were a lot of double redirects left behind. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

:Hmm, looks like you took care of it. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:41, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== NSMC Accounts ==

Could you please clear out the NSMC accounts at the Fanstuff? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 04:10, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

:We can't. Doing that would leave holes in the edit histories, among other things. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:21, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

:<s>Could you at least clear them from [[HRFWiki:Special:Listusers|Special:Listusers]]? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 14:54, 11 January 2006 (UTC)</s>
::I don't think that's possible. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:01, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Umm... ignore that. My bad. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 15:04, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

Sorry for hurting your feelings, man. I just couldn't tell that the censored version was on the page, and Marth 99 said it wasn't - though he could've been commenting on a point where the suggestive one was the article's image. I didn't mean to offend you, I just treat everyone like that. Oh, and sorry I threw that first cake at Strong Sad. Peace.

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== Strongbadia -> Strong Badia ==

Could your bot thingy please change instances of "Strongbadia" to "Strong Badia"? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 01:43, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

:Bot requests should be made on the bot's [[User talk:GrapeNuts|talk page]]. But now that I check, it looks like the request [[User talk:GrapeNuts#Strongbadia --.3E Strong Badia|has already been made]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:32, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

== ____you should archive this page because it takes forever to scroll down the whole way ==
____long pages should be archived

____this page takes a really long time to scroll down

____it takes a long time to scroll down this page

____this page is very long

____this page should be archived because it is long

____this page also takes a long time to scroll down because it is very long

____you should archive this page

____archiving pages make pages shorter

____if you archive this page it will be shorter

____if you archive this page it will take less time to scroll down.

____it has come to my attention that this page should be archived.

--17:04, 17 January 2006 (UTC)17:04, 17 January 2006 (UTC)17:04, 17 January 2006
(UTC)[[User:216.120.190.165|216.120.190.165]] 17:04, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

:I'm a bit confused here. Is this some kind of code? I think I understand your message, but I'm curious why you typed it like this. Could you please explain? Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:29, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

________This is some kind of code.

________I am a native speaker of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English English], so I may be new to this wiki language.

________I also speak jbrrsh, but wikipedia doesn't have an article on it.

________I can speak jbrrsh if you want me to.

________Do you want me to speak jbrrsh?

________Eikn kcayce eiyuu ouan't maee tdoo cepeeke ein jbrrsh, ehjerre izzthuh kuweschun ein jbrrsh.

________dyouu eiyuu ouan't maee tdoo cepeeke ein jbrrsh.

________eiyuu kcann annscir tvhis kuweschun ein ieetvhur aynglisch owr jbrrsh.

________I typed it this way because I am a native speaker of English but I can speak in jbrrsh too.

________For more information on English, you can go to the wikipedia article at [[Wikipedia:English]]

____________For information or if you need help on the information for archiving information then you can contact me or someone who's an administrator here (I don't know who they are).

:First of all, Tom ''is'' an administrator here, and I'm sure he's fully aware of how he could archive his user page. It's not lack of knowledge; it's just a personal decision on his part, which he's free to make since his [[HRWiki:User space|user space]] belongs to him. Second, if you just learned how to use the Home and End keys you probably wouldn't find this so inconvenient. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 16:59, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::Wow! Home and end keys! I never actually never thought of using those, they were always just the keys in the middle of the "seldom used" block of keys. I suppose you learn something new everyday. Thanks for the tip. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:43, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::thunderbird, you seem to benefit from, well.....everything. it's kind of strange. [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 15:03, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== Whoa! ==

Kewl you were one of the first people on the wiki! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:21, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

:Yes. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== MediaWiki Software Related Stuff ==
Two things:
#Do you know how the New Messages bug was solved? I'm having the same problem on a wiki I own.
#I had a discussion on #mediawiki with [[Wikipedia:User:Robchurch|Robchurch]] about deleting users. Here's the main part of the conversation:
<blockquote>
<Super_Sam> If you have database access to a wiki, it is possible to delete usernames? 
<robchurch> In theory. 
<robchurch> You can delete users without too many repurcussions. 
<Super_Sam> What about gaps in the history? 
<robchurch> Well, the users will still be credited for the edits. 
<Super_Sam> So, under history it'll show the user, but the user won't actually exist.
</blockquote>
I proceeded to test it out on my wiki (which also uses MediaWiki 1.5). By deleting the user from the "user" table, the user was effectively deleted (couldn't log in and no longer in the list of users), while edits by that user remained in history (including block logs). However, the user remained in [[Special:Ipblocklist]] until they were also deleted from the "ipblock" table. This method should also work for the NSMC accounts.

{{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 07:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

:Hey Super Sam. Yeah, I would like to clean all that garbage out. I'm going to do a couple of other maintenance things before I delete all the usernames. I hope to be able to get to it in the next couple of days. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:06, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::{{done}} Fanstuff is done. See [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Listusers&limit=700&offset=0 this] and [[HRFWiki:Special:Ipblocklist|this]].
::{{todo}} Knowledge base is next. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

== Is this your job? ==

Hey Tom, I hope I'm not being nosy but, is what you do on the Wiki your job? Is this how you make your living. Well, I asked because I here you contribute to this Wiki a lot. Thanks! [[User:68.155.22.62|68.155.22.62]] 01:55, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, man, wouldn't ''that'' be nice! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:20, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::That would be a great job, but no. Any money that comes to the wiki through [[HRWiki:Donations|donations]] goes directly to keeping this site online. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:23, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:Using someone else's copyrighted work to earn money without permission is a big legal ''no''. Nice thought, though. XD - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:52, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== Inquiry ==

Hey Tom, how are you? Would you happen to know anything about [[Category talk:Character Evolution|this]] apparent bug? Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:22, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

:I'm good, thanks. And it looks like Ben has taken care of your issue there. Nicely done. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

== Wow. Archiving assistance needed immediately. ==
I know you can do whatever you want with your talk page, but I suggest you archive it. All the other sysops have done it, and they look great. I know people have been bugging you about this, but I ''really'' suggest it. People would love it. Thanks. {{User:Seriously/sig}}

:Thanks for your consideration. I'll keep your suggestion in mind. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:29, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

== Just a heads up ==
Um, a while ago a user named ohW .rD (Dr. who as a different user) started vandalizing a lot of pages. Not a ''single'' sysop was there. Me and [[User: The thing|The thing]] fought it off, but I don't believe it ever got blocked. Can you block him permanently to make sure this doesn't happen again? Thnaks. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:43, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
:Thank you for being vigilant while the wiki was under attack. You join the ranks of a long line of members (including myself) who have had the (mis)fortune to encounter a vandal in the early hours of the day or night when no sysop was around. Keep on tranglin'! Incidentally, feel free to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&page=User%3AOhW+.rD check the block log] before posting. Cheers! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:57, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
::Aw, thank you, comster. That's probably the first time I've been complimented on something page-related and not user-related. Just a sign that I only hang around this place for the cool users.....{{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:02, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

== Archive ==

WHOA! Make a talk archive! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:45, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

:See the discussion two headlines above. Also, tom has been pestered with these comments more than Strong Bad has been asked how do you type with boxing gloves on. It's up to him, so in the meantime I'm thinkin' we should just stop pestering him. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:51, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

::Arise, my minions! We must poke Tom until he archives! *poke* *poke* *poke* *poke* *poke* - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

:::pokepokepoke...{{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:16, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Pokemon {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:17, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::Okay, stop. Tom doesn't need to be harasssed like this. Either he will archive or he won't, but your poking him will not have the effect you desire. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:19, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

::::::Aw......{{User: Seriously/sig}}

:::::::LET'S POKE USER:IT'S DOT COM WHOS WITH ME! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 00:21, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

::::::::No way, that's going overboard. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:25, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::But I will poke Tom! *poke* *poke* *poke* For all you people who think this talk page is large, [[HRFWiki:User:Super Sam/Joshua Talk|prepare to use several gigabytes of bandwidth]]. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 00:25, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

::::::::::WHOA! That is not a small number! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:56, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::Jeez, guys. My poking was a joke. Why'd you go ruin it by taking it seriously? -_- (Feel free to stare at all of my awesome talk page, though.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 01:28, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

::::::::::::Thank you all for your consideration. I'll keep your suggestion in mind. Also, I suggest that in the future when someone tells you to stop harassing another user that you actually stop harassing them. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:31, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

== Mirror ==
Hello Tom. [[Talk:Scroll Button Songs#HRWiki Mirror|This discussion]] could use your admin attention. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:39, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

:Noted. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:56, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== Help-Policy ==

Hey Tom, I wanted to ask you about [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Category:HRWiki_Policy&diff=266540&oldid=246251 this edit]. The reason I had made the [[:Category:HRWiki_Policy|Policy category]] a subcategory of the [[:Category:Help|help category]] was that I wanted users who were browsing the Help category to be able to see the Policy category and browse its contents right away. I reasoned that having the Policy Category have greater visibility would be preferable (even if no one reads anything really). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:09, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

:The [[:Category:HRWiki_Policy|Policy category]] is a subcategory of the [[:Category:HRWiki Maintenance|HRWiki Maintenance category]]. The [[:Category:Help|Help category]] is also a subcategory of the HRWiki Maintenance category. The Help category shouldn't be a subcategory of a subcategory that's in the same category as it (the Help category) is in. In other words, we want HRWiki Maintenance --> Policy and HRWiki Maintenance --> Help and not HRWiki Maintenance --> Help and HRWiki Maintenance --> Policy --> Help. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:02, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

::My original idea was that the Policy Category be a subcategory of Help, not the other way around. So we'd have RWiki Maintenance --> Policy and HRWiki Maintenance --> Help --> Policy, so that anyone browsing help can see policy and (hopefully) decide to browse through it as well. But it's really not that an important of a detail. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:13, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Mirror: ==

Remember how you asked me on IRC to list all the files we mirror from other sites? Well, [[User:E.L. Cool/mirrorlist|it's done]]. I also took the time to change all the local mirror links to the one with the Mirror: prefix. The QotW page almost took me 20 minutes! But that's not important. Everything for the wiki. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:01, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Howdy, Tom ==

Long time no see.

This wiki sure has gotten pop-you-lar.

-[[User:Jweb Guru|Jweb Guru]] 15:36, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, no. Is it? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:15, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

== Range blocks ==
Just wondering: I'm a sysop at the wooky, and I'm wobndering how to block an IP range, just for future reference. Can you tell me? Thanks. — {{User: Seriously/sig}}
:See [[Metawikipedia:Range blocks|this page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Changing usernames ==

If your a sysop how do you change user names? --{{User:The thing/sig}} 21:48, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
:(You mean bureaucrat.) Go to [[Special:Renameuser]] and fill out the form there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:53, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
::What about in a wikicity? --{{User:The thing/sig}} 21:56, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
:::You need [http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renameuser this extension] to be able to change user's usernames. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 22:03, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
::::How do you get it? --{{User:The thing/sig}} 22:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Well, since Wikicities' usernames are global (they aren't specific to one wiki), whoever wants to have his or her name changed would likely have to go through the central Wikicity. [http://wikicities.com/wiki/Special:Renameuser Special:Renameuser] doesn't seem to exist there, so I'm not sure what to tell you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::Try their [http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/Special:Contact contact form]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:00, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

==Emergency==
Hello my name is H*bad and I have a complaint to make, I have been blocked again most likely because of the same person I don't know but I am innocent. No one else is replying to what I have been saying. Can you please unblock me because I haven't done a thing wrong. I am blocked on the fanstuff wiki. And I could swear upon anything at all that I am not doing anything wrong.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 17:21, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:Ps you may have to unblock the people who are doing that horrible joke of having the same user accounts as the NSMC bots but only for a little second and that may unblock me becaue they have been using my IP address somehow.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 17:24, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, it looks like you have been autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by a blocked username. The block expires 16:12, 5 March 2006 (UTC). If you'd like to edit before then, contact a fanstuff sysop.
::Also, something peculiar to note is that your IP is shared by [[HRFWiki:User:H*bad|H*bad]], [[HRFWiki:User:H*bad1|H*Bad1]], [[HRFWiki:User:Godzillarunner|Godzillarunner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Darth Homestar runner|Darth Homestar runner]], [[HRFWiki:User:1041327735NSMC87789216|1041327735NSMC87789216]], [[HRFWiki:User:1376523585NSMC822710324|1376523585NSMC822710324]], and [[HRFWiki:User:1376523585NSMC822710325|1376523585NSMC822710325]] on the fanstuff wiki, as well as [[User:01857184578NSMC19576857318597|01857184578NSMC19576857318597]] and [[User:Godzillarunner|Godzillarunner]] here on the Knowledge Base. Can you explain this? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:17, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::NSMC!? Are you serious? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:00, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Seriously, do you have anything constructive to contribute to this conversation? If not, please stay out of it. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::I can explain a few of them like H*bad1, I logged on to him because my friend asked me to so I could take care of the whole "he is my sock puppet", which he is not (long story I will explain later if you want). For Darth Homestar runner I found out what his password was and I guess it showed my IP as his which reminds me to tell him to change his pass. any ways, Godzillarunner I made him, which I do admit that I made him, but for a good reason, I forgot my password and thought thats ok I will just make a new user account, a few hours later I remembered what my password was. You can delete Godzillarunner if you want. Like I said it is a long story. Plus to make sure that you know I have no reason to do something stupid like troll or whatever.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 22:49, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::You still haven't explained why or how NSMC-style usernames were created with your IP, one of which was even used for vandalism. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:12, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::First off I didn't even know that one of them was used for vandalism. Second off (someone hates me, which is also a long story), I am not that type of person. I am an upright person, but you know what if you want to pin this sort of thing on me then fine, but just so you know I didn't do anything wrong.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 23:18, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::::Could you please explain how the NSMC-style usernames were created with your IP? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:23, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I wish I could but I don't know much about computer programing stuff, I am only 15.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 23:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::What is the verdict, am I guilty of making the NSMCs and Darth Homestar runner or are you going with the truth and saying not guilty (This is manly so people will leave me alone on whether or not I can be trusted, which I hope I can be trusted by you and all the other sysop/Admins).--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 14:38, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::Could you please explain how the NSMC-style usernames were created with your IP? It doesn't require any computer programming knowledge to create a wiki account, nor to explain how wiki accounts were created with your IP. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:00, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::::::::I would if I could but I can't. I would tell you if I knew, but right now isn't fair, because right now I am getting punished for something that I wasn't even doing. The thing is that I was going to work to try and be a nominee for being a sysop but now I guess I will never be one.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:28, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::::How are you still being punished? The block on the fanstuff wiki expired over three hours ago. How are you not able to tell me how your computer was used to create those accounts? Are you not the only person who has access to the computer that has knowledge of NSMC-style account names? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:36, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::::::::::Well people just will not leave me alone any more. I have no more computers that can log onto the internet. O of course I just figured it out. I will call my suspect and he shall most likely answer my question with a No, because of that he can't lie very well I will be able to know whether or not he is the culprit.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:21, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::The culprit is... H*bad1, he was the only one it could be. One day he came over and I showed him this site. He created a new user on my computer. In fact he came over a few more times in which he most likely then created the NSMC accounts that I think are stupid. Man I am good. When I called him just now instead of denying that he didn't create them he said that he did, like I said he can't lie so I could tell that he meant it.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:29, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::::::::::::20:21 comment: Won't leave you alone? You are the one pressing the matter on ''my'' talk page. If you are the only one with knowledge of NSMC-style accounts and access to the computer that created those accounts, I fail to see how you weren't the one who created them. But it doesn't matter anyway. You are free to drop the whole issue and go quietly about your business editing the fanstuff wiki as H*bad. If you want the issue dropped, simply do not reply to this message.
::::::::::::::::20:29 comment:Mmm hmm. Great. Now we can all go about our business. Feel free to never bring this issue up again, here or elsewhere. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:36, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::::O sorry, I will never bring that thing {as I call it} again.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:39, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

:Sorry for this, but I have to say this to you. I am very sorry for wasting your time and other users time on this subject. If I could go back in time I would. So sorry again.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 21:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

::Well, I suggest you get crackin' on your [[Wikipedia:Time travel|time machine]]. Let me know if it goes well. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:30, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

:::I am trying to, but unfortunatly I can't work out the bug were only half of me timetravels.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 21:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

::::H*bad, weird. I could have thought I remember you saying you were never going to bring this up again. Dude, it's okay. Just let's all just go about doing our thing. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

== We need help! ==

Please block Homestar Swimmer when you get the chance! [[User:Beat|Beat]] 16:23, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

:I found him to be Dr. Who. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 16:26, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

::In the future, please use the [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] page to report vandals. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Sorry Tom, that was my first experience with a troll. Please accept my apology. [[User:Beat|Beat]] 00:08, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

::::There's no need to apologize. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:42, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== Great jorb ==
I've noticed just how many quality edits, reverts, and deleting you done today. This is one of the few times when I get to see just how great a person you are. Keep up the wonderful work, you're what keeps this wiki running. Thank you. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:42, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

:Duly noted. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:57, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

::Sweet. Except I'm wondering what duly means. I'm pretty sure (or maybe I'm just hoping) that it means "to you too", but I'm not sure. Can you explain? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:59, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Try a dictionary. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:01, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Dictionary.com says it means "at the same time". So...You thought you were awesome at the same time? Uh, weird. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:03, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::What dictionary.com entry are you looking at? The [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=duly three definitions that I see listed] don't include that. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::I figured that "at the proper time" would be what "at the same time" in your comment. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:09, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Honestly, it just depends on what you interpreted the word as. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:11, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::::20:09 comment: Quotation marks are used to enclose direct quotations. If you are changing something from the source you are using, don't use quotation marks.
::::::::20:11 comment: It means "properly," okay? Now please, leave me alone. Drop it. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:15, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

== Images ==
Hey! I be Seriously, ack for a limited time only! I'm on the wooky, and I was wondering what the difference between images were. For example, what does PNG mean what does JPG mean? What's the difference between them? We don't really have an image policy yet, and I would like to create one. If you don't feel like answering all of these questions, is there some page that does? Thanks a lot. {{unsigned|Seriously|00:31, 23 March 2006 (UTC)}}

:[[User_talk:Thunderbird_L17/Archive_1#PNG_vs.JPG|Try this]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:48, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
::There's also all kinds of links with info at [[Wikipedia:Image format]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:51, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Thank you guys, so, so much. There is a crapload of info I can learn there. I'll read up on it. Wow, I can't believe I forgot to sign! — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 11:52, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

== Whenever I get on... ==

Oi Tom. Whenever I log on, I never tend to see any of the Admins/Moderators on. It's pretty weird. I still remember when I was new to this place, there were Admins and Mods on all the time! But I rarely see any of them anymore.
[[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro]] 01:07, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

:We have lots of [[Special:Listusers/sysop|syops]] on at all times of the day. Unless you refer to the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum], where we have probably slightly less (but still plenty of) moderators on at various times. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:18, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

::Yay. Another forum to join. I hope I can make time to post there often.
Just out of curiosity; have I ever told you how many forum websites I've
joined have asked me if I wanted to become a mod? Really just one. But
they kind of deleted my account... *cries*.
[[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro]] 02:28, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

== Sorry (2) ==

Was just trying to fix dead links. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:45, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:There's no reason to do that, really. Leaving "red links" in context is often helpful. Not to mention that editing other users' comments is often frowned upon and can at times change the intent of a message. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::Well I'd hardly think turning a dead link into plain text would change a message, but I appreciate your advice. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:53, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah, it's probably not that big a deal and I'm taking it too seriously. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you for explaining the target links. ==

I didn't know that you could use the id attribute with target links.
There seems to be a bug in my web browser that is preventing it from rendering the target links on that page. It renders most target links correctly; it worked with the test page I made in the sandbox.
I kept editing the T-shirt page because thought that it must have been something wrong with with the code, but it appears the only problem was in my browser. I just checked the T-shirt page in Firefox and the target links work just fine in it.
Sorry for editing that page so much.
Thanks again,
[[User:Jecowa|Jecowa]] 07:54, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:Sure, no problem. What browser was/is giving you the trouble? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::Safari 2.0.3 (the latest version at the time of writing). I've sent in a bug report with a link to "http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Store_T-Shirts#tshirt_bear-shark". Hopefully they'll get that fixed soon. [[User:Jecowa|Jecowa]] 09:08, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== wikkitikkitavi ==
So I find out we're regrading the software yesterday. I was really excited to actually see everything in lockdown. But I was even ''more'' excited to see pages in 'tavi. I thought you guys were redirecting us to Ye Olde Wiki for the time being because it was a major regrade. '''But I edited'''. In 'tavi. It was truly amazing. I thought it would not be permanent. But now we're here. How long will this be? Will we ever return to the land of recent changes and move logs? ''Ever?'' I hope we do. I'm just amazed to witness such an event. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:11, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, by the way, why didn't we have to make such a big move like last time? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:23, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

::Relax, Seriously, we're still in the land of [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] and [[Special:Log/move|move logs]]. 'Tavi has these features, too. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 20:33, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

== Scroll Button Mirror ==
Hey, remember that modern scroll button song that we didn't have a mirror of? Well it turns out my friend [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] had to copy on his computer. [http://simpedia.5gigs.com/supersam/sbemailmenurandom.swf Here's a mirror] for you to upload onto the wiki's server. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:50, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:Done. Thanks one million. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:14, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

==Left==
Hi I left you something on the Fanstuff wiki. Go to my user page there.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 22:12, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== Halloween Costumes ==

Check the date on [http://community.livejournal.com/homestar_runner/2003/11/03/ this]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

:It's kind of a tricky situation, technically it was released twice. It's somewhat explained [[Talk:H*R.com updates 2003#Fan Costume Commentary|here]]. The entries are all clarified now. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

::Qermaq, that's the old version that was eleven separate HTML pages (see [http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=Secret+Pages%2FCostumesTranscript]). Please see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fan_Costume_Commentary&diff=305416&oldid=305307 my changes] to the [[Fan Costume Commentary]] article for further clarification of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=H%2AR.com_updates_2004&diff=prev&oldid=305417 my revert] of [[H*R.com updates 2004]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:01, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Can you Explain? ==

I'm still wondering on why you blocked Darth Kantana X. Can you fill in a little? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 02:54, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
:Darth Katana X continuously made derogatory comments toward the wiki on several discussion pages, even after being warned by Tom to stop. If you need some examples, look at [[Special:Contributions/Darth Katana X|his contributions]]. They shouldn't be hard to find. :-S - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:11, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
And I'm not entire sure if this'd interest you Tom, but Darth Katana X has made something of a [[HRFWiki:User talk:Darth Katana X#Blockage at the knowledge base|retaliation]] on the Fanstuff Wiki. ...and then I kind of told him my feelings on the matter, but anyway... uh, yeah... just keeping you informed. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:I'll simply say that Tom's actions here were, in my opinion, entirely merited and totally in the best interest of the HRWiki. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::Ditto. I, like Qermaq and Joshua, have kindly (for the most part) explained to him your meaning. He ahs realized, but it's tough for him. Being blocked for a month when you are as committed to the wiki as much as he is is practically unbearable. Believe me, I know. But he's learning, and that's good. Although eventually Super Sam, to stop the fighting, threatened to protect the page. Once again, keeping you informed. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:06, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== RE:Disrespect ==

I wasn't trying to be meen. I was just puting him on my userpage. In memeory of him. Sorry if that was wrong to do. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 21:31, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

:I didn't say it was mean. I said it was disrespectful. Either way, like It's dot com said, even if common sense didn't tell you that it was completely inappropriate, the fact that a sysop removed it should have given you an idea. You are treading on very thin ice and your disregard for several other policies of our community has all of us keeping a very close watch on your edits. Be careful, and I'd advise you that in the future, if you have even the slightest doubt about an edit you are planning on making, you bring it to the talk page first. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:22, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Timestamp ==

How do you get your timestamp to appear in your time zone? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:You can't fix timestamps. You can only make the time displayed on recent changes in your local time by setting it in your [[Special:Preferences|preferences]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 18:48, 22 April 2006 (BST)
::Look at your own timestamp {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, I entered that one manually. You can't customise the timestamp created with <nowiki>~~~~ or ~~~~~</nowiki> though. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 17:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Dacheatbot: We actually don't want people to use their own time zone in timestamps on talk pages (or STUFF or wherever), as this is quite confusing. Having everyone use the UTC standard gives us an absolute time to refer to, and only requires one conversion (that is, you just have to know what your time is relative to UTC, not how your time zone matches to some unfamiliar abbreviation). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:29, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've been using a UTC clock script in my monobook.js to make timestamp comparisons more convenient. You can get the script at [[Help:UTC clock]]. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::That doesn't work for me. Maybe it's my browser, I have Safari.{{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 01:00, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::::What timezone are you in? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:19, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Pacific. But the clock doesn't even appear and now my customized user bar won't work.{{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:37, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::Try this: take every UTC time you see and then subtract seven hours in your head to get the time in your time zone. And when [[Wikipedia:Daylight saving time|daylight saving time]] ends later in the year, just remember to switch to subtracting eight hours. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:45, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I still don't get why the clock won't work{{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 15:01, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Works now{{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== So, what — just specify a different category? ==

<blockquote>That was just the best one available, if there is a more appropriate one feel free to switch it out. Ideally I think there should be a video screenshot super category, and have tv, film, vodcast etc subcats, but I am not personally very active in category space. - cohesion 08:11, 28 April 2006 (UTC)</blockquote>

So, what — just specify a different category in the template? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 16:32, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

:See, my issue with that tag is that it was created to be a very general umbrella that fit over a whole bunch of stuff. We know exactly where each one of our screenshots are coming from, namely homestarrunner.com, an Internet site. We don't have all that other stuff to worry about here. The same arguement can be applied to {{tl|character-artwork}}, sure, the images are character-artwork, but they aren't from a comic book, video game, or animated television program or film, they're from homestarrunner.com. I don't think continuing to use {{tl|web-screenshot}} is a problem. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:40, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
::All righty then. I'll go undo the ones I already did. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:33, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Homsar: banned on IRC ==
Hi, Tom. Nice to see you. Sorry to bother you, but I was wondering about Homsar999. He says that he was banned from the IRC channel. He says he was banned because he impersonated Lunar Jesters as a joke. He also says, however, that you and JoeyDay think he impersonated many more people. I usually would have no reason to not trust you and Joey, but Homsar999 has always been nice to me, and he seems to have a good sense of judgment. If you can, can you please elaborate on the situation so I won't have to keep choosing sides between my friends? Thanks a lot. Sincerely, — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, he is banned from the IRC channel. No, he wasn't banned just for impersonating Lunar Jesters. Yes, Joey Day and I know that he impersonated many more users. I don't really care if he has been nice to you or not, and I certainly don't care about your character assessment of him.. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

::That's fine with me. I just wanted to know the info so he'll stop drilling all this stuff into my head about you and JoeyDay being evil and such. I'm really glad that you managed to shed a bit of light on the situation. Thanks so much. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:41, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

:::In your first post you stated that "he seems to have a good sense of judgment." Here you just stated that he drills stuff into your head about myself and Joey being evil. So despite his constant insistence that the two of us are evil, you think he has a good sense of judgement? So you think his assessment that Joey and I are evil is correct? If you don't like us or this website, please feel free to leave. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:22, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

::::I didn't say that I hated the website, and that I thought he was correct. He just seemed like a nice guy. It was only ''after'' you had first replied that I told him about your comment, and it was ''only then'' that he called you guys evil. I listened to you and JoeyDay, thus, he went kinda crazy. Now that you've cleared things up, you've also cleared up the fact that he does not have a good sense ogf judgment. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::I did not say that you said that you hated the website. I merely drew logical conclusions based on the information available to me. I knew that you stated that you trusted his judgement and I knew you stated that he insisted that Joey and I were evil. You did not tell me the sequence of events until just now. Also, you led me to believe that he had told you on more than one occasion that Joey and I were evil because you used the word "drilling" which in the way you used it means something done repeatedly over a period of time. I implore you from this moment forward to ''always think before you type'' and to not leave out such important information. Do not exclude facts that are relevant to the topic at hand. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Pic on Userpage ==

If the above topic is finished, I would like to ask, which person are you, the one with the orange top or black sweater? {{User:Count X/sig}}

:See [[:Image:Mike Chapman and Tom Preuss.jpg]]. Why do you ask? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

:: Seem a little curious. {{User:Count X/sig}} 11:56, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

:::What? Do you mean that I seem a little curious? Or that you are just curious? Or that the image is curious? I know that you are curious because you asked the question. I am curious about why you are curious. The picture isn't curious, it's a picture. I'll ask again: Why did you ask which person I was in the picture? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

:::: Buh? '''I''' was curious. Your question is probably answered!!! {{User:Count X/sig}}

:::::Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't aware that I needed to make the jump from the "Seem a little curious." that you said to the "I was curious." that you meant. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:14, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

== Pic stuff ==

Thanks for updating the picture there. I should learn some wiki code.--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 20:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:You're welcome. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:32, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== More work needs to be done ==

Hey Tom, this Wiki is awesome, but their is still a lot that needs to be done. I think you know what I mean. [[User:72.150.230.125|72.150.230.125]] 01:30, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks. And yeah, the project is always ongoing. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:13, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

== My sig ==

Hey Tom I was wondering about something. Why did you remove <nowiki><div class="usermessage"></nowiki> from [[User talk:H*bad/sig|here]]?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 17:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

:I did that while I was attempting to fix the problem at [[User talk:HickleSwoo]], where AbdiViklas had used the section edit link to add a note for HickleSwoo, but Abdi was really editing your welcome message (which should really be moved to [[User:H*bad/welcome]], instead of being at [[User_talk:H*bad/sig]]). The first thing I did was remove the usermessage div, since it was making Abdi's note bold and orange as well. I didn't add it back because the usermessage class was designed with one purpose in mind and using it for other things makes them look poor, there's much too orange. Also, I ended up fixing the problem by substituting the template, which you should do from now on by typing <nowiki>{{subst:User:H*bad/welcome}}</nowiki>. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks Tom.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 14:04, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

==Help Another Wiki?==
Greetings from [http://starwars.wikia.com Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki]. :) I'm one of the administrators over there ([http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:Jaymach Jaymach], if you'd like to check) and I have been told by [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] that you may be able to help us with something we are attempting to implement over there. We're looking into possibly using your "Image Code" verification, but only want to use it for Page Moves rather than every Page Edit. Do you know if this is possible at all and, if it is, is there any chance you could inform us how to do so? Feel free to contact me on [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Jaymach my talk page]. Many thanks. (I'd sign this, but it'd be from my anon IP so there seems little point)

:Hi there Jaymach. I just sent you an email with the details. Oh, and I'm [[Wookieepedia:User:Tom]], by the way. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:09, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

== You have '''no''' new messages! Ever! ==
Hey, Tom! Nice to see you asgain. I'm having some glitchtastic problems at the fanstuff wiki with the "you have new messages" thing. Every time I log in, it says I have new messages. The link is to user talk: Seriously, not Special: Mytalk, so it's definitely not a prank. When I go to my talk page via the link, there's nothing new. I even checked the page history, and its last edit was be me. It's always on the main page, so I viewed the source and it didn't have <tt><nowiki><div class="usermessage">You have new messages</div> </nowiki></tt>, so I can't see how it could be a prank. Therefore, it must be some kind of glitch. Can you help me out with it, if possible? Thanks a bunch. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

:The message can only be cleared by going to either [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Seriously] or [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Seriously] while you are logged in. Is that what you are doing when you are attempting to clear the message? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
::Hey, sorry for the late reply. Yeah, that's what I've been doing. Every time I do it, it stops. But the weird part is why it said I had new messages in the furst place, because I didn't. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== JoeyDay's talk page ==
Tom, that wasn't me. I have been in the bathroom for a while.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 21:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:H*Bad, if you mess up, then at least have the stones to admit it, apologize, and move on. Don't insult us by lying. We've heard that one before. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:03, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::Look Dot_com, I don't know what to say. I know I can't prove it, but you know my brother. I have been in the bathroom. I haven't lied for a long time.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 22:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::Assuming you are telling the truth: you are responsible for what happens during your login session. I might advise you to log out the next time you need to use the facilities. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Ok, I am sorry, I forgot to log out. I forgot that I had the stay logged in thing on.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 22:11, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

== Donation ==

I'm donating $20 anyway, via paypal - My paypal account is smartflier or gilpenchina. As the leader in the wiki world, we want to be a supporter and enabler, even of those who don't want to host with us. So it's more a pay-it-forward sort of thing...

[http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Gil Gil]

:Thanks Gil. Take care. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

== Pelican Info ==

I have some info on the person creating the Pelican S***s.

I've heard of him before on the original wikipedia. He was putting Pelican S*** on many articles. I hope this information helps.

[[User:King Cheesia|King Cheesia]]

:Yes, see [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Mr. Pelican Shit]] for more information. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== I left you... ==

...a message on your fanstuff talk page. --{{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 04:39, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

:Yup. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:14, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

== WikiTroll ==
Hey Tom, I want to understand something here. Why did you revert me? This [[HRWiki:WikiTroll Archive|page]] exists.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 00:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

:I didn't say the archive didn't exist. The message reads "It is no longer necessary to list vandals on this page" you added "This is the page: HRWiki:WikiTroll Archive" to that. [[HRWiki:WikiTroll Archive]] is not the page for listing vandals. There no longer is a page for listing vandals. It's been linked to on the talk page, that's enough. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
::Thank you for clearing that up for me.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 00:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

== User wanted pages ==
Hey Tom, I have been thinking of ways to get the user pages off of the wanted pages. So I thought about putting a template on all of them. I am sure that a bot can do that right?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 02:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

:There's no need to remove user pages from the list of wanted pages. Also, not only has this been turned down by the community before (someone back in March 2005 created a "Template:Blank user page" that included a "Category:User pages without content"), but it would mean that someone would be editing someone else's user page, which is frowned upon. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

== My Monobook.js ==
Hey Tom, I was wondering if you knew what would be wrong with [[User:H*Bad/monobook.js|my monobook.js]]. I can't seem to get it to work.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 03:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

:I have no idea what is wrong with it. Perhaps you could elaborate on what you mean by "wrong"? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
::Its not showing up and I have cleared by cache a lot of times.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 03:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

:::What's not showing up? What are you trying to do? Did you get this code from somewhere else? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
::::1. The names under the tools box. 2. Make it faster for me to alert the admins in case of a troll. 3. I took all of it off of the fanstuff Wiki.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 03:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::Is it from a particluar page on the fanstuff wiki? Perhaps you could provide a link to where you got it from? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:01, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

::::::It came from my monobook.js on the wiki. Here is the link: [[HRFWiki:User:H*Bad/monobook.js|my HRFWiki monobook]]. The only difference is, just some links and the names changed.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 04:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::::And have you tried comparing the fanstuff version (that works) to the knowledge base (that currently doesn't work)? Of those things that you mentioned that are different, is anything out of place or formatted incorrectly? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

::::::::It doesn't appear so. I did forget another difference, but thats only the words in the /* */. But just in case I will look again.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 04:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

By the way, please don't post on my talk page when there's a vandal. Posts like that are obsolete almost the minute you put them there. If I'm online, I either already know or can be reached in other ways. I would wager the other users in that list would feel the same way (especially Joey, who has entrusted the vast majority of vandal hunting to a very competent and numerous group of sysops). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, please don't post on my talk page when there's a vandal either, for the same reasons. And to find your problem, it might help if you copied the text from here and pasted it over your fanstuff code and used the "Show changes" button. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

::<s>Ok, I will change it from your names. And I will try copying it.</s> Instead I will just get rid of it. I just thought of it, what would be the point of alerting a sysop, when they may not even be on, plus the fact of what It's dot com said.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 04:19, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Okay. But for future reference, in order to fix your problem, make sure you're typing everything exactly how it would appear in a URL. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

== Naughty ==

Hey Tom, I cursed in a [[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_11&diff=346678&oldid=346677 summary]], and have been told that some users might find it offensive. I certainly don't want to offend anybody. Would you be able to remove that naughty word from the summary? I'd really appreciate that :-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, don't stress about it. It's okay. I'm not going to remove it or change it, just try to keep it in check in the future. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:23, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

::Cheers, I will. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

==Fanstuff IRC==

Why on Earth did you kick me out? I wasn't even doing anything. --Yeltensic

:You've been banned from the HRWiki related IRC channels. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

::Ah. I was under the impression that I'd been banned only from the main channel, since that was the only one where my IP was blocked. Not to mention it was the only one where I listed things, and when you kicked me out of the fanstuff IRC (which I had never even been to), I was, as you saw, not listing things. -- Yeltensic

== Mediawiki ==

Hey tom,
Sorry to bother - I saw you wanted me to upgrade my wiki. I tried, but I couldn't get it to work. I'm a guitar player first...just remember that.

I'll look into that CSS thing again, I'd really like to get that rockin - but when I update mediawiki can I just save the database, delete the site - and reinstall it or what? {{unsigned|Decstuff|13:44, 20 August 2006 (UTC)}}

:Instructions for upgrading are in [http://www.wikiguitar.net/UPGRADE your upgrade file]. Again, you should read the [[MetaWikiPedia:Help:Contents|MediaWiki documentation]] to better understand the software, for instance the page on [[MetaWikiPedia:Help:upgrading MediaWiki|Upgrading MediaWiki]] could be of some help. If you have further questions, it might be best to take them right to the [http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l mediawiki-l] mailing list. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

== Recover forum account ==

My account at the forum is inactive. I think I registered a long time ago but never actually posted there. (only here on the wiki) So now, I can't post on the forum at all, and can't recover my password or re-register with the same email address or anything. My username there is "Nerd42" and my email is nerd42@gmail.com - if you could pass that along to whoever is in charge there or whatever to help me get this fixed so I can post there, I would very much appreciate it. Thank you! --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
:I have marked your account as active. Enjoy! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
::Hey cool! :) [[Forumpost:471280|Evidently, it worked.]] --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 21:50, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

== Oh!!! Sorry! ==

Oh! I'm sorry Tom! I didn't know about that protocol! Sorry about all those pointless Beatles links!!! (Oops!) [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 17:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:There's no need to apologize. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:48, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

== Latest NES Ending ==

Hey great work [[User talk:Trey56#20 December 2006|here]] — I'm impressed at how fast you identified a pretty obscure game. How did you find it? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:35, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

:Hidden camera in your house. But seriously, something like:
:#Figure out what the text said ("Bravo, Captain! You obviously didn't take history in school: you managed to defeat the north in 9 months. Long live Dixie!")
:#No luck Googleing variants of that text.
:#Searched for something like [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22Civil+War%22+NES "Civil War" NES], possibly trying a few variants.
:#Saw [[Wikipedia:North and South (computer game)|North and South]] in the results and remembered it. Still wanted a visual confirmation though.
:#Did more searching and found [http://www.discountgames.org/NES%20Nintendo%20Web/NES%20Images/North%20&%20South%20NES%20SS12.png this image] and [http://artofwar.free.fr/images_site/jeux/nes/north%20and%20south/North%20&%20South%20(E)%20%5B!%5D-12.png this image], which were close enough to visual confirmation.
:After that, just the typical looking around for Civil War stuff around here. Thanks again for the greatest trivia game on the wiki! -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
::No problem, it's a lot of fun on my end too — by the way, the first image up there is from a very reputable seller on eBay — one of the few Power Sellers of NES games I've had good experiences with! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

== Blocking of Giskard ==
Recently, Giskard contacted me saying that he was blocked when H*Bad was and that nobody, specifically you, was listening. Could I have some clarifications on this before I jump to any conclusions? - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 05:03, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
:H*Bad and Giskard share, at the very least, an IP. A consequence of blocking H*Bad is that the computer he uses cannot then be used for access, no matter who uses it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:09, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
::<s>Yes well apparently</s> I am now not autoblocked. But, I sent you a message at the Forum. If you could feel so inclined as to message me back. Thanks, --<s>[[User:H*Bad|Giskard]]</s> ''[sockpuppet of H*Bad]'' 05:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
:::And by feeling so inclined, that's a nice way of saying now answer. Thanks bye, --<s>[[User:H*Bad|Giskard]]</s> ''[sockpuppet of H*Bad]'' 04:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

::::I'm sorry, I don't understand. Could you please clarify? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::That's ok, I understand that you have a lot of stuff going on. So early this week I believe, I sent you a message on the HRWiki forum. I hope that clears things up.--<s>[[User:H*Bad|Giskard]]</s> ''[sockpuppet of H*Bad]'' 04:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

::::::If you have a question for me about the wiki, please ask it here. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::::It was about me being blocked on IRC.--<s>[[User:H*Bad|Giskard]]</s> ''[sockpuppet of H*Bad]'' 04:47, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

::::::::Again, since you and H*Bad share, at the very least, an IP, a consequence of blocking H*Bad is that the computer he uses cannot then be used for access, no matter who uses it. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:54, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yes, but can you unban me on a provisional basis?--<s>[[User:H*Bad|Giskard]]</s> ''[sockpuppet of H*Bad]'' 04:56, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::You've already been told twice in this section that it's not possible. Please stop bothering Tom with this.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Oh, well, I am unblocked now.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 13:20, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::Since you want so much to get back on our good graces, my advice to you is to leave the past behind. Stop bringing it up. It's almost like you want us to remember what you did in the past. Move on. Be a good user and avoid pointless edits that serve no purpose like the one you just did above. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

==Question==

Is there any particular reason why I was re-banned from IRC? If I'm not mistaken, all I did my last time there (after, apparently, having been un-banned at some point) was describe an odd dream I had had in which (among other things) Nazi troops goose-stepped through my college campus. --[[User:Gowbda|Gowbda]] 03:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

:Nope, nothing has changed. There apparently was a brief hiccup in the freenode network. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:59, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

::Ah. Well then, could I perhaps be unbanned? Seeing that, during the time when I was effectively unbanned, I did nothing more trollish than describing the aforesaid dream. Oh, and plug a new wiki I started, that too. --[[User:Gowbda|Gowbda]] 06:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Nothing has changed, nor is it due to be. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:33, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

== Help out ==
Hey, I'm thinking about creating a new page, but I don't know what to call it and I don't know all of its info. The page will be about interuppted names Strong Bad usually starts sounding out before getting interrupted by someone. Such as in [[bottom 10]]: He says, "and the number one spot in my bottom 10 is... Th--" and then gets interrupted. Please help out. I am sending this to all sysops. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}

:Theyellowdart, this is spam. Do not do it again. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:32, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
::I won't. I didn't know at the time. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} I don't take it as spam, but a mistake.

==IRC==

What the hell is your problem, Tom? --Yelt

:We've been through this several times now. You've been banned from the HRWiki related IRC channels. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Hey Tom, In reference to {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Stux/PECLT&diff=next&oldid=403691 this}} edit, what is your thought process behind leaving it as <nowiki>{{tick}}</nowiki>? I thought that by making it static instead of dynamic, it put less load on the server much in the same way that subst does. Can you explain?
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
:For that series of templates, the wikicode looks much cleaner to leave them as {{t|tick}}, {{t|todo}}, and {{t|done}}, and server load isn't really an issue for us like it is for Wikipedia (otherwise we wouldn't allow templates to be used as signatures). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

::In addition to that, I had thought your reason for changing them to the new PNG was a way of clearing the [[:Image:wiki_tick.GIF#filelist|filelist for wiki_tick.GIF]], which only had [[User:Stux/PECLT]] on it the last time I checked. That's why my edit summary talked about purging and dummy editing, since the PNG had already replaced the GIF in {{tl|tick}} but still hadn't show up on that page as such. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:59, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

== Line break in subtitles ==

Why did you remove the <nowiki> </nowiki> tags in [[Subtitles:sbemail56/nl]]? It made the subtitles look less chaotic. --[[User:Pdedecker|Pdedecker]] 12:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

:I took them out because they weren't in the [[Subtitles:sbemail56/en|English language version]] of the subtitles and I'm not familiar with that formatting being used in any of the other subtitles. I did this because it is my understanding that [[HRWiki:Subtitles|subtitles]] aren't meant to convey formatting, only words and the associated properties (speaker, volume, voiceover, sfx) of those words. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:00, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

::Have you ever seen a television program with subtitles? They do this stuff [http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/4594/substi1.jpg all] [http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/3532/subs2nb4.jpg the] [http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/7430/subs3dt4.jpg time] because it makes the subs easier to read. :) ''(PS: feel free to remove these links as soon as you've seen them; I can understand that you don't want links to copyrighted material on this wiki.)'' --[[User:Pdedecker|Pdedecker]] 19:16, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

:::I don't see any text on the show there that's being translated into another language with the formatting of the subtitles being formatted the same as the different language text. I see text on two lines. I don't know if the second line is that way because of it being spoken by a different speaker than the first (we break lines for that reason here) or if the line break naturally occurred at that point because of the width of the screen (we also do that here). I know text can occur on two lines, sure, but (it's my understanding that) subtitles aren't meant to convey the formatting of text. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:04, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
::::In my not-so expert opinion: normally subtitles don't need to convey formatting, since they represent spoken dialogue (though like you said, they can be separated in order to diferrentiate speakers), however typed text is handled a little differently. Since the original artwork generally can assume the viewer can read in their native language, that text is of course translated. Short items, like titles and such, fit in one line, however larger amounts of text is often laid out in the same format that the original text is presented. This is often the case in some Anime titles when newspapers or multi-line signs are presented. There really are no "rules" against it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 11:29, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

:::::(quote) ''or if the line break naturally occurred at that point because of the width of the screen'' (unquote) Yup, that's what I was referring to. In this case, I think the subtitles should not exceed the width of the Flash movie or they will look chaotic. Do you think that's a good idea? --[[User:Pdedecker|Pdedecker]] 15:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

::::::No, that simply wouldn't work. Not everyone has the same size screen or views the toon in the same size window. Since [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|the script]] resizes the toon according to those factors, it's not practical to attempt to format the subtitles like you describe. That's not to say that there shouldn't be gobs and gobs of text on the screen at once, but that's why we have [[HRWiki:Subtitles#How to Write Your Own|guidelines for breaking up the text]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:38, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::::The preferrable way, as Tom alluded to, for breaking up text into more manageable pieces in a subtitle here is to introduce a new line. Some existing subtitles aren't terribly well broken up, in my opinion, and I see no reason not to improve the line breaks as is warranted in translation. But line breaks, unless actually required for semantic context, aren't needed. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

== Looking for a little bit of help ==
You're an Administrator here right? Okay, so I was wondering how I was supposed to be able to get onto the IRC thing... can you help?--[[User:The Shadow|The Shadow]] 23:23, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
:See [[Help:IRC]] and [[HRWiki:IRC channel]]. Cheers and good luck. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fanstuff main page ==

Hey there, unable to connect to IRC. :( Is there an easily visible way for the Fanstuffers to access their main page? We don't want them to get frustrated. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:56, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
:Fixed, thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:05, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== IRC ==

Why did you block me from IRC? {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

:The Thing, should I post a log from the channel? And we all know that you weren't really having problems. I could post the log with a running commentary of indications that you could see us talking if you like. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 22:47, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

::The thing, I was told you were being disruptive, so I banned you. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:04, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I wasn't being disruptive. My other account really wasn't working so I signed out of it. I sorry for that even though I did nothing. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

::::This is disruptive:
<blockquote style="white-space:pre;"><tt>Apr 19 18:21:03 * The_thing (n=chatzill@cpe-69-205-176-185.stny.res.rr.com) has joined #hrwiki
Apr 19 18:21:23 <The_thing> Hello?
Apr 19 18:21:45 <DeFender1031> hi?
Apr 19 18:21:52 <The_thing> The_Mu[away]?
Apr 19 18:22:01 <The_thing> borg?
Apr 19 18:22:14 <borg> may i help you?
[snip]
Apr 19 18:28:06 * The_thing has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.78 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]" )
[snip]
Apr 19 18:28:32 * The_thing (n=chatzill@cpe-69-205-176-185.stny.res.rr.com) has joined #hrwiki
[snip]
Apr 19 18:29:53 <The_thing> H E L L O ?
Apr 19 18:29:56 <DeFender1031> i wasn't asking about his nick
Apr 19 18:29:57 <The_thing> H
Apr 19 18:29:59 <The_thing> E
Apr 19 18:30:00 <The_thing> L
Apr 19 18:30:02 <The_thing> L
Apr 19 18:30:03 <The_thing> O
Apr 19 18:30:05 <The_thing> ?
Apr 19 18:30:11 <Loaf|uni> stop flooding
[snip]
Apr 19 18:32:02 <The_thing> PLEASE ANSWER ME!
Apr 19 18:32:13 <Heimstern> The_thing, you keep saying "Hello", and then you don't say what you want from us. There's no point to that. Make conversation or don't, but don't just fill the channel with random messages.
Apr 19 18:32:14 <The_thing> I know someones there.
Apr 19 18:32:17 <DeFender1031> The_thing, if you're pretending, it's not funny
Apr 19 18:32:23 <The_thing> I'll wait all day.
[snip]
Apr 19 18:33:02 <The_thing> and the next day... next day.. so on
[snip]
Apr 19 18:33:55 <Heimstern> The_thing, you're being disruptive. If you keep it up I'll talk to an op about having you kicked.
Apr 19 18:34:20 * Anon9176 (n=Anon9176@cpe-69-205-176-185.stny.res.rr.com) has joined #hrwiki
Apr 19 18:34:28 <Anon9176> Hello?
Apr 19 18:34:30 <DeFender1031> Heimstern, i thout YOU were an op
Apr 19 18:34:34 <DeFender1031> hell Anon9176
Apr 19 18:34:52 <Anon9176> ...
Apr 19 18:35:00 <DeFender1031> also known as The_thing's sockpuppet
Apr 19 18:35:01 <Anon9176> this is The thing
Apr 19 18:35:08 <DeFender1031> yeah i got that
Apr 19 18:35:13 <DeFender1031> stop it
Apr 19 18:35:16 <DeFender1031> it's not funny
Apr 19 18:35:21 <DeFender1031> it's disruptive
Apr 19 18:35:22 <Anon9176> sorry.
Apr 19 18:35:25 <Falanalanel> I thought anyone could do a kick
Apr 19 18:35:30 <DeFender1031> and it'll get you kicked
Apr 19 18:35:32 <Anon9176> My other account isn't working
Apr 19 18:35:34 <DeFender1031> Falanalanel, no, only ops
Apr 19 18:35:39 <DeFender1031> it's working fine
Apr 19 18:35:42 <Falanalanel> I see
Apr 19 18:35:43 * The_thing has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.78 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]" )
Apr 19 18:35:48 <Loaf|uni> if anyone could kick people, there's be nobody in here =3
Apr 19 18:35:49 <Anon9176> there
Apr 19 18:35:53 <DeFender1031> Anon9176, we could see everything
Apr 19 18:36:05 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to Tom39Away
Apr 19 18:36:11 <DeFender1031> and i know you could too
Apr 19 18:36:16 * Tom39Away sets ban on *!*@cpe-69-205-176-185.stny.res.rr.com
Apr 19 18:36:18 * Tom39Away has kicked Anon9176 from #hrwiki (Tom39Away)</tt></blockquote>
::::Don't do it again. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:10, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::I swear I could not see what they were saying. {{User:The thing/sig}} 01:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

::::::I didn't say anything about if you could or couldn't see anything. I said what you did was disruptive. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

:::::::Sorry, I won't do it again. {{User:The thing/sig}} 21:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Can you please unban me? It was just a simple mistake. sorry. {{User:The thing/sig}} 21:07, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::Sure. Let this be your serve as both your final warning and your final chance. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:49, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

== Nintendo Wiz! ==

Wow! You really know your nintendo. Have you ever thought about working for Nintendo? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:47, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

== I think I want to say this to you too, about the recent NES ending at Trey56 ==

And to think I read about [[Wikipedia:Street Fighter 2010|that spinoff game]] once on Wikipedia. Guess I'm still not familiar with NES games. --Addict 2006 21:26, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

==Heylo!==

To Whom It May Concern,

Hello! My name is RelentlessRecusant, and I am a bureaucrat on Halo Fan Fiction Wikia. I know you're one of the top dogs around here and you don't have much time, so I'll make this brief. ;-)

I've been working with H*Bad closely for four months on Halo Fanon Wikia. The night HF Wikia was created by my request, I immediately made H*Bad a co-bureaucrat along with me, because I know from reputation that he is a trustable individual. Recently, he has been conferring with me about his block from HR Wiki, and based on his conversation, I feel individually compelled to seek you out and speak to you on his behalf.

In my months working with him, he has been a dedicated and trustworthy individual even in an administrative position, and recently he has been speaking to me that his block at HR Wiki has been haunting him or one another. I feel that it is unreasonable for a block to cause such guilt in a user...it's pretty painful to see my fellow Bureaucrat say that. ;-)

You can message me back at my talk page or email me at alpha_217@verizon.net, sir.

Later!! ;-)

Cheers,

[[User:RelentlessRecusant|RelentlessRecusant]] 21:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

:If Chris's block is haunting him, then that's too bad. It's certainly not haunting us. In fact, we don't even think about it anymore. He was given numerous (half a dozen or more) chances to get his act together, until he finally used up his last chance. We're done with that whole mess. He should let it go, too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

:RR, there seems to be a recent trend that some of the rather nasty vandals use their more civil personas to ask others to plead their "case" on this wiki. I'm sorry to read that you've been the latest one to be used by one of them. I also have to say that it's hardly good form to create an account at a wiki simply to talk about a long forgotten vandal, and I hope that this was not your motivation.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:26, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:: Hey, thanks for your reply! I'll tell HBad your response, although I still think it's rather unfortunate...I've been working with him for 4 months, I think it's hard for a "civil persona" to continue for that long, but thanks anyways! Nighty-night! ;-) Cheers, [[User:RelentlessRecusant|RelentlessRecusant]] 03:43, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

::Yes, I agree that they're more civil when pleading their "cases," but IMO, H*Bad is ALWAYS more civil, an' stuff... just thought I'd say that. =D [[User:24.251.106.233|24.251.106.233]] 05:40, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

:::This is a dead issue. You don't need to comment here anymore. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

==Uh can you delete my old account==
I made a new one before I new you could change usernames could you balete it The account is Vile.exe the password is Hades [[User:Zorc|Zorc]] 15:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
P.S. Loafin' was a jerk about and I know your more lenient.:)
:I'll let Tom answer your question about your account, but please be civil and don't call people jerks, Zorc. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:15, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::[[HRWiki:Privacy policy#Removal of user accounts|Removal of user accounts]]: Once created, user accounts will not be removed. It may be possible for a developer to change the username on an account, but you will need to [[HRWiki:Changing username|request this yourself]]. The Wiki does not guarantee that a name will be changed on request. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Keep up the good work ==

For both you and Dot com: Keep up all the good work you do here keeping us up-to-date with new versions of MediaWiki and generally keeping this site running. It's really appreciated. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:06, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

:You're welcome! -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
::Also, congrats on reaching your 200th birthday... err, talk page thread. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:01, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Happy bicentalkemail! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:30, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
== Your donations ==
i was reading the donation log and saw your name in there a lot. i was wondering exactly how much money have you donated to hrwiki. p.s. we are in debt. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 01:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

:I'm sure it'd be a fun and much more rewarding exercise to add up the amounts yourself. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::$955.80. WoW. now i see why they say you keep us all running. we would be in debt by over 1000 bucks. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
:::995.8 > 1000? That's not what [[boring (really)|I learned in school]]... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
check the money ledger. it says we are in debt by about 100 bucks. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
:Ooooohhhhh..... (995.8 + 100 > 1000) IS what i remember learning in school... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::Slipknot6477: Check it again. Read the note at the top, where Joey explains that we are not. Also, your maths are slightly off. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
:::we would still be in debt. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Try [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Thank_You%21&action=edit this page]. That way you don't have add it up. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:00, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

== Excuse me?? ==

Is it really "legal" on this site for you to delete my personal message to another user on their talk page? That seems incredibly petty and... well... Wrong. '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 03:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:Tom removed your message because the username you suggested was not acceptable. I would ask you to please be careful with the accusations here: Tom doesn't just remove messages for fun. In this case, he did it so as not to lead a new user astray and to enforce our policies. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::Well, I mean you're supposing the reason was that it wasn't acceptable. In that case a response of "That one's also not acceptable" would be good instead of deleting it. I don't know, maybe I'm too used to other wikis where you can converse with other people without someone editing you. I don't see what's wrong with "Chat Mappman", of course - but really it was just an ice breaker with a new user. I'm very careful with my accusations. You don't get to be the best guest rapper in the music biz by saying things you don't believe! ... Well actualy, I guess you do. But that's beside the point. O_o '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 03:39, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, if you're used to other things on other wikis, then I can understand how you would feel taken aback. I see you had good intentions, and so did Tom. I personally like your style; I suppose you ''can'' become best guest rapper on this wiki, at least, for saying what you do believe. Sorry for the misunderstanding. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Name? ==

You might be the right person to comment [[Image talk:Togdor secret.png|here]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

:Replied. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:46, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Founder Question ==

Are you the founder of the wiki?

--[[User:Scorched Yoshi|Scorched Yoshi]] 21:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

:Tom is one of our developers; the founder of the wiki is [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:16, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

== Blue shirt photo ==

Thought you'd get a kick out of [http://i.pbase.com/o6/67/755067/1/93021034.9CBkniMm.DayJoey_MG_3487.jpg yet another portrait photo of me in a blue dress shirt and tie]. I only have one blue shirt, and I swear I don't wear it more than about once every other month. This particular portrait was taken at WGU faculty meetings, and was completely impromptu. I had no idea I would be getting my picture taken that day. Go figure. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:52, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, it's not showing up for me. "You don't have permission to access /o6/67/755067/1/93021034.9CBkniMm.DayJoey_MG_3487.jpg on this server." -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:54, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

::Try [http://www.joeyday.net/stuff/joey-portrait-tzane.jpg this] instead. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

:::Nope, different tie. See [http://www.joeyday.com/images/joey2003.png joey2003.png] and [http://flickr.com/photos/joeyday/5821811 5821811] for the usual one. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:12, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

::::Ah, you're right about the tie. A sharp eye would notice that it's also a different blue shirt (my old one wore out so I bought a similar one to replace it). This one doesn't have the button-down collar. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

== Duck Guardian and TROGDOR! Wii mirrors. ==

Hey Tom, you might have heard of [[Talk:TROGDOR!#Miirror, anyone?|this plan]] so I'm asking you, could you upload and mirror those 2 Wii games? I have the flash files so it's ready to go. You can download them [http://www.savefile.com/files/1473955 here]. --{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 20:41, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

:Done. See [[Mirror:trogdor_vii.html]] and [[Mirror:duck_guardian_vii.html]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::And I added the mirror links to their respective pages, thanks Tom! --{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 01:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

== Pokemon Fanstuff Wiki ==

Some guy with the same name as you made [http://pokefanstuff.scribblewiki.com/Main_Page this wiki]. Is that you or some other guy? {{User:Hrjcm/sig}} 13:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

:Some other guy. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

==Name Change==
Could you change my user name to Raiku? Its going to be my last username ever. I am going to keep it. {{User:Gavino/sig}}

:You should follow the instructions on [[HRWiki:Changing username]]. You should also note that these instructions do not include pestering me on my talk page, making three edits in the span of one minute to my talk page, or making edits without edit summaries. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:21, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

== Unfair IRC ban ==

Tom, Explain this:

<pre>
<HSB150> tom?
<HSB150> did you let me back in?
<HSB150> if so, and that's why you have ops, thank you very much
<HSB150> i still don't know what i did anyway
<HSB150> what'd i do this time?
<HSB150> say hi>?
<HSB150> thank you for letting me back in?
<HSB150> i know you're there
<HSB150> you just banned me
<Tom39Away> Hello.
<HSB150> hi
<HSB150> why was i banned now?
<Tom39Away> You are still banned, this isn't a new ban. This was just another instance of a hostmask you were logged in as needed to be banned.
<HSB150> o_O
<HSB150> wait
<HSB150> so you never let me back in?
<HSB150> it broke?
<HSB150> why was i even banned in the first place?
<Tom39Away> Read what I'm saying. You logged in under a different hostmask.
<Tom39Away> You are banned because you're really annoying.
<HSB150> :O
<HSB150> ok
<HSB150> 2 problems:
<HSB150> 1) you can't ban me for being annoying. that's not an offense. show me where it says in sysop rule book you can ban for that
<Tom39Away> This isn't the wiki.
<HSB150> and 2) i'm in the same computer, so how is it another hostmask?
<HSB150> some comp, same router, same everything
<Tom39Away> No idea. It happens sometimes.
<HSB150> sure it does
<HSB150> hey, here's an idea: stop screwing with me
<Tom39Away> Ah, course language. That certainly doesn't bode well in a discussion with the person that controls your fate.
<HSB150> let me back in because i did nothing.
<HSB150> at all
<HSB150> ever
<HSB150> please
<Tom39Away> We've been over that.
<HSB150> what?
<Tom39Away> You were banned because you're annoying.
<HSB150> and?
<Tom39Away> That's it.
<HSB150> a lot of others are annying,. too
<Tom39Away> Sure. But you stood out.
<Tom39Away> You set yourself apart.
<HSB150> -_-
<HSB150> exactly
<HSB150> i talked
<Tom39Away> No, for being most annoying.
<HSB150> that;'s all i really do different regularly
<Tom39Away> Take a look at http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:IRC_channel#Don.27t
<Tom39Away> Have you ever done any of those things?
<HSB150> Don't post text that is more than 5 lines long
<Tom39Away> Have you done that?
<HSB150> just that and it wasn't on a channel you were freaking even on
<HSB150> ond once
<Tom39Away> What about flooding?
<HSB150> *and
<HSB150> not often, and again, not here nearly as much as at private chans with friends
<HSB150> and
<HSB150> not
<HSB150> like
<HSB150> this
<HSB150> nit like, a line a word
<HSB150> more like this right now
<Tom39Away> You should note that being annoying in personal conversations with me doesn't help you.
<Tom39Away> Well, I'm sure you can see what's in italics at the beginning of that section.
<HSB150> it wasn't on there
<Tom39Away> I'm referring to the text that says "Failing to comply with the below guidelines may result in a channel kick or ban."
<HSB150> yeah
<HSB150> it wasn't on a channel with you
<HSB150> and i only flooded, like 3 weeks ago on there
<Tom39Away> No, you've done it in #hrwiki and #hrwiki-fanstuff.
<HSB150> and that's as far as i remember
</pre>
— [[User:MichaelXX2|MichaelXX2]] ([[User talk:MichaelXX2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MichaelXX2|contribs]]) 00:31, 28 December 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

:You should really try reading that conversation over again. It fully explains why he was banned. And I'm surprised you actually expect me to give you further explanation here, especially when the user in question [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Homsarstrongbad150 has been blocked from editing the wiki in the past], and especially not to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:MichaelXX2 a user that has been blocked from editing the wiki ''three times'' in the past]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:20, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
::Because he's ''annoying?!'' What kind of reason is ''that?'' And you just ''really'' know how to hurt a guy's feelings, don't you?! {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 05:54, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

:::When interacting with people, one should do their best to act in a manner conducive to a situation where those other people would want to participate. Or, ''don't be annoying''. It's a very basic rule of conversation, you should try it some time. As for feelings, I'm not exactly sure why my using your previous actions as a character assessment should hurt them, as they were your actions. I had nothing to do with them. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:02, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
::::what are you talking about? you know you hurt my feelings. i'm sure i stated that at least once to someone. and another thing, hrwiki has guidelines for their channels. it doesn't list being annoying as a banable offense. just because you can freaking have ops doesn't mean you can abuse them. {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 06:29, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::How I would I know I hurt your feelings? You didn't tell me I hurt your feelings. MichaelXX2 said I hurt "a guy's" feelings, which I took to mean his feelings, as he would be the one who would be feeling them. Was I supposed to think that he had an insight into what you were feeling? Or this one time you supposedly mentioned it to someone, was I supposed to seek out that person and have them tell me about your feelings? Regardless, my reply to that, as you can see, was that I was simply using his previous actions as a character assessment. Those were his actions, he's the one who chose to act that way. Why would bringing up actions of his (or apparently now yours as well) hurt his (or your) feelings? I didn't make him (or you) act that way. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:41, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Allow me to share some thoughts. Sure, there are guidelines to behavior in IRC. And there are sysop-types who monitor to be sure the spirit of behavior and decorum are preserved. However, you never signed a contract and you basically get no guarantees whatsoever. There is no stopping a person with priv1leges from acting against another user ''for any reason'', if no other users with power object (both actual power in the system as well as influence). And when a user begins to be viewed by many as a nuisance, they actually often hope for someone to "think outside the box" and make a bold decision. I've been in countless online forums, and in each one there's been users we all wanted gone. Those managing the forum were always patient, but in the end it comes down to the forum itself being more important than the individual. The trick, if there is one, is ''don't be the guy'' everyone is so sick of they don't care if the agreed-upon rules are skirted to eliminate you. If things one does lead to that perception, deserved or otherwise, simply stop doing these things. Now, of course, I have never to my knowledge been on IRC with you or anyone mentioned above (except Tom, of course) so don't take any of this personally as I cannot possibly mean it as such. But do think about what I said here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:47, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:I agree with Qermaq. Sysops on this wiki and associated places are usually more lenient than other users want them to be. And their decisions are also visible to the other sysops. If a decision is controversial, it is discussed. A decision that has not been reversed after someone brought up that it might have been wrong is highly unlikely to be reversed, as the sysops agree that it was in good judgement. There are clear rules on policies on which behaviour is acceptable for this wiki and for the IRC channel. All sysop decisions are based on these. I would also like to add that I'm highly annoyed at the tone of MichaelXX2 and Homsarstrongbad150. There is no need to be confrontational about this, and there is definitely no need to claim that Tom - or any of us - has abused their power. Sysops don't live out their little power fantasies, they invest a lot of time and effort into helping the community and making the wiki (and the IRC) a better place. If you find that a sysop goes as far as blocking you, then you should ask yourself what you did to make the community a worse place, not abuse the sysop.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:37, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== Brand of Skin mirror ==

Hey. A new Thorax secret page was found and added to the [[Secret Pages]] article - A video for Folk Implosion. [http://web.archive.org/web/20050131214245/www.thoraxcorp.com/brandofskin.swf The video] is right now linked to from The Internet Archive, and It'll be a shame if it were deleted some day. Can you upload it to the wiki, so we can link to a local mirror? {{User:Elcool/sig}} 17:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

:Added at [[Mirror:brandofskin.html]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:46, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
== Why do you still do this? ==
Really though, why are you still doing this?

:[[User talk:It's dot com#Why do you still do this?|See It's dot com's reply]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

== Notes from Druelselstein X2000 ==

Hello, Tom!

Why don't you talk to Maudi Algabban anymore?

Please, email me at foad_quahog@hotmail.com for more information.

--[[User:Druelselstein X2000|Druelselstein X2000]] 18:21, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

== Hey there ==

Hey Tom. (That's my name as well!) How's it been going? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:33, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

:Why would you ask me that? Do I know you from somewhere? Besides me knowing that you're that guy that has been [[User talk:RickTommy#Little questions|told ''repeatedly'' to stop]] [[User talk:RickTommy#Constant questions|pestering people with questions]], I have no idea who you are, and I have no particular interest in telling you how it's been going. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:00, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Hey ==

I think it's high time you archived your talk page. I mean, this is the 214th post! --[[User:Still Homsar| Still Homsar]] [[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|25px]] 09:44, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'm ''certain'' that goading him while at the same time adding to the problem will inspire him to do it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:33, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== Proprietor ==

Just letting you know, you have been given [[Special:Listusers/proprietor|proprietor]] privileges. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask. Thanks. -- [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:32, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks. But I've never been too keen on that name. I like [[Wikipedia:Benevolent Dictator For Life|Benevolent Dictator For Life]] myself. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

::I, for one, welcome our new wiki overlord. Congrats!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:15, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

User talk:RickTommy

Loafing — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:13:17 GMT

Loafing: /* French subs */ seriously

[[User talk:RickTommy/Archive|Archive]]

== Wits' end ==

We have asked you repeatedly not to police the wiki. This means telling other users what to do or how to do it. You simply do not seem to have the knack for when it is appropriate. We've asked you to play fair on the featured article selection page, not to edit others' comments, and not to swear in edit summaries. Yet, things aren't getting better. We don't seem to be getting through to you at all, even after you were blocked for two weeks for disruption. So, I'm going to block you three weeks. Furthermore, I think it would be best if you stayed away from the featured article selection for at least a month. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:48, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Block warning==

RickTommy, if you're warned about being blocked, don't try to fight it by making up a bogus excuse as to why it was necessary to do what you did. Just say sorry and don't do it again. We all know you did it so there is no point fighting it. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:I wasn't denying anything. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::Loafing told you that he might block you, but then you got defensive and said that the edit doesn't matter. Well it does matter. Look, if you ever get a block warning, don't try to fight it, just take the advice you're given. Thanks, {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::You know, Wasd, your behaviour isn't exactly that great either. For one thing, you posted that comment in the first place, despite the fact that it '''''does not''''' belong on that page. For another, you have posted messages in talk page archives, as you have done with my talk page as well as Heimstern's. For another, you warn users about things that they did months ago. For another, you do that to users who haven't edited for months. For another, you post signature length messages on other users' talk pages, despite the fact that 1) you shouldn't expect a response from those users, since they haven't edited for months, and 2) the signature length may only apply to your computer. And for another, you're enforcing policy by doing some of those things. I have been blocked before for trying to enforce policy, so don't be surprised if you end up being blocked as well if you continue doing that sort of stuff. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Please, people, let's break this up. And I'm mainly speaking to Wasd here. Whatever disputes RickTommy has with the sysops and whatever warnings we give him are none of your business. Please attend only to your own behaviour. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

==Support==

RickTommy, you're a cool guy. Keep it real bro. High fives, — [[Strong Bad]]
:Thanks, man. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== French subs ==

Hey, RickTommy. Please don't forget about adding <nowiki>{{fixtranslation}}</nowiki> when you do subs so Meuhcoin or someone knows to look them over. Thanks, and have a good time translating! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
:Pretty please? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:59, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::Seriously, you always need to put the tag on new French subtitles that you create.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

== Complaints about the new FAS format ==

RickTommy, has it ever occurred to you that others might genuinely prefer the new format? People aren't praising it to annoy you; they're just expressing their honest opinions, which is entirely within their rights to do. Of course, it's also in your rights to disagree with it, but your constantly complaining about people who like the new system is annoying and is quickly becoming unacceptably hostile, especially with edit summaries like [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ARickTommy&diff=710107&oldid=710101 this one]. Please stop. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:58, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== Previous edit summary ==

What {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Recent changes patrol|offset=20101026050700&limit=2&action=history}} previous edit summary}}? Edit summaries are for the page history first, recent changes a distant second. I realize those HRWiki committee pages are a special case, but in general you need to stop {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=707793}} fixing}} {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=710154}} doctorwho295's}} {{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|diff=prev&oldid=710763}} name}} on talk pages. If he wants to sign with a lowercase letter, [[HRW:AUTOPIPE|autopipe]] takes care of the link, and there's nothing in our [[HRW:SIG|signature guidelines]] that says he has to sign with a capital letter. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

==Further response==
there are some things on your list that I agree with you on. However, while i'm not saying that anything here specifically annoys me or doesn't, I'm gonna give you a few pointers. I noticed that you added that it annoyed you "When a user creates a new article and links to that article on every page that mentions it" shortly after I linked everything I could find to [[Arby's|a new page that I didn't make]]. I was thinking, "but isn't this good practice?" It's okay; there have been times that good practice has annoyed me too. (See [[Talk:Compé]]) The thing about Strong Mad being older than Strong Bad: yes, that is a known fact. and i have a little brother who is taller and heavier than I am, so i know where you're coming from there. And the new Featured Article selection format: I've noticed that you've been pointing out that you're suggesting an article for the second time. The way the new format works, they won't ever need to be suggested again (or that's the way i understand it). Honest question: do you like that aspect of the format? In short, I guess I would be more comfortable with that section of your user page if it was less inclusive. but don't let me tell you how to shape your user page; you don't have to change a thing based on what I said if you don't want to. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 08:04, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk:H*R.com updates 2010

Loafing — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 00:05:52 GMT

Loafing: this is something for the forum

{{updates-talk-box}}

== Poker Night ==

Telltale games has announced a game called Poker Night at the Inventory among the playable characters is strong bad.

== Main Page message? ==

It's gone!
:See [[Talk:Main Page#newbutton.swf missing?]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

== Trogday Sale ==

Actually, it started yesterday, January 19th, but today was the first time it was linked to on the main site.

Yeah its a great prize for those who,still dident get the game. And that was one of me :3.
Keep on.. keepeen.. it ..on because you keep it.. on... or off.. SIuper -X

==SBCG4AP Mac voting==
There is a poll for which telltale game you want for Mac. Shouldn't the update be there?
:Re [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=H*R.com_updates_2010&diff=694098&oldid=694097]: Where are we getting this from? The "Last Updated" date on the main pages says the 12th, and <del>the Last-Modified time of <code>newbutton.swf</code> is "Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:58:44 GMT" - still the 12th, Georgia time...</del> {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:02, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
::Wait, never mind, read the wrong date... the real Last-Modified time is Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:55:32 GMT. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
:::I-i don't understand you.
::::Well, the SBCG4AP game has lost the poll. Maybe if the Chaps had done anything on the website in the last 4 months, they might have kept interest. I know its because of a baby, but is there a longer content gap on record?
:::::1. It's not just because of a baby. There's obviously another reason, given how long this break has been. 2. No there isn't. [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 21:34, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

==Eric Conveys an Emotion==
I've known about these[http://emotioneric.com/ae/?adv=thefootballgame] pages[http://www.emotioneric.com/ae/?adv=theinterview] for a while, but I searched for them here, and never found any articles. I'd love to have a go at making my first article here at the Wiki, but I wanted to confirm that there ''should'' be a page for this, and that there isn't one here already. ([[Special:Contributions/24.107.111.127|24.107.111.127]] 04:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC))
:We've already mentioned it on the appropriate [[Website Sightings#Eric Conveys an Emotion|Sightings page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:16, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

==HSR Xeriouxly Forxe Release Date==

*While it is still technically still March 31st, it is April 1st for them East Coasters, which seems to be the release time they were aiming for, and I'm thinking this is going to end up being a one day thing anyways. So can we just fudge it by an hour or two and call it an April 1st update for posterity? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:18, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
: I forgot the east coast time when I put it up - it was about 8:30 for me on March 31. I guess that's 11:30 on the east coast, though... Hm. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::Labrador and Newfoundland then? Them maritime regions of Canada? :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:03, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:::There are [[portrait#Trivia|several]] [[Halloween_Potion-ma-jig#Trivia|instances]] where we are sticklers on the release date. Is this a special enough case? Whatever we do on the main page, I'd want the long-term stuff (H*R updates; article page) to have the correct info. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:52, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::::I think [[Template:whatsnew]] could be changed to "April 1, 2010". For people coming to this wiki in the next few days, this will help them to know that the toon was just a joke and is not a real change to the website's style. If they see "March 31" as the release date, they will probably think it means "early in the morning on March 31", which is too far away from an April Fool's joke, or the date will just not click as "the day before April Fool's Day". This will get them all angry that their favorite site is changing its entire look and format. Now, sure, this will probably not happen to most people, but it may confuse a few. {{User:Shine Sprite/sig}} 02:51, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm on board with that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:27, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Main page and bar redesign and re-re-design ==

not-so-recently, the main page was redesigned to have Homestar looking more enthusiastic and a large, prominent button "Shop our store!" in the center. also, the bar under everything had store moved to the center and made red.
more-recently-than-not-so-recently, the main page was changed back, and the "store" was un-reddened but remained in the center. (I'm not sure if it was there ing the first place. also: there is now a "subscribe" button. may have been introduced independently)
None of this is on hrwiki's updates. Why? 05:29, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:Isn't it [[H*R.com updates 2010#Thursday, January 21, 2010|right here]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:31, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
::You may also just be noticing the difference between what we note on the main page and what we note on [[H*R.com updates]]. We note everything we can on the updates page, but we only note major updates on the main page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:01, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

== New Crossover with strong bad? ==

There was a telltale games trailer about a crossover game and among the characters was strong bad. I know it isnt a main page update but it is still important.
:Updates should wait until 02 Sept, when there is more info on what TTG has in mind. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== 9/07/10? ==

It says they updated the site on 7 September 2010. What did they actually update? --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 11:24, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
:It was a store sale. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 11:37, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
::That's odd; they've had, like, 5 sales since the last time they changed the date. --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 11:39, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Twenty THANXty Six

Loafing — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:14:01 GMT

Loafing: rv. see talk

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|stinkoturkey|Fan Costumes '08|Hooked on Decemberween}}
[[Image:Twenty THANXty Six.png|thumb|"I'm thankful for Pan Pan's epiglottis!"]]

Stinkoman learns how to give thanks.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Stinkoman}}, {{film|1-Up}}, {{film|Pan Pan}}, [[Cheatball]], [[Shadowy Figure]]

'''Places:''' [[Planet K]], [[Innards#Pan Pan's Innards|Pan Pan's Stomach]], Mountainous Region

'''Date:''' Monday, November 24, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 2:14

'''Page Title:''' Holiday Prices on Spiced Bun and Frozen Bake!

==Transcript==
''{Stinkoman is working on something off the screen, making vocal noises as he does so. His green tongue protrudes from his mouth. The Stinkoman 20X6 level 2 cutscene music plays dimly in the background.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Heer. Ah! Heejee. Goo? Ah!

''{1-Up arrives from the left.}''

'''1-UP:''' Hey, Stinkoman, what are you think you're doing?

'''STINKOMAN:''' Go away. I'm doing something!

'''1-UP:''' ''{Makes flatulent sound, blushes}'' Uh, yeah. But what is it you're doing?

'''STINKOMAN:''' Can't you see, my good man? I'm giving thanks! ''{Smiles broadly, then puts his hands on his hips with a ''Shing!'' sound.}''

'''1-UP:''' Oh... ''{Makes flatulent sound, blushes}'' ...because it looks like you're building a tractor!

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{Long shot showing the tractor}'' Shows how much you know! ''{Makes his laughing action}'' Now watch me give thanks to these crops! ''{Roots around in the tractor, and pulls out what appears to be a [[Wikipedia:Deere & Company|John Deere]] hat, putting it on with a ''ding!''}'' Ha! ''{Jumps into the air, spinning. He briefly comes to rest in mid-air in a reclining posture, then drops to the seat of the tractor and starts it up.}''

'''1-UP:''' That's not how you give thanks! ''{Laughs on "thanks", then makes flatulent sound and blushes.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Oh yeah, talking-to-me-extraordinaire? If you're so smart, why don't YOU show me how to give thanks without the use of farm equipment?

'''1-UP:''' Okay. Pan Pan?

''{Pan Pan drops from above and lands with a gong sound, then opens his mouth wide and inhales 1-Up and Stinkoman. After a second, he spits out Stinkoman's hat. Cut to the interior of Pan Pan's stomach.}''

'''1-UP:''' Watch me while I do work! Why, just today, I'm thankful for Pan Pan's epiglottis! ''{Smiles broadly, while four hearts float out of his head and pop.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Oh, NOW I get it! Like this! ''{Dashes off-screen. Cut to him sitting behind a desk in a suit, his hair neatly combed.}'' Buy! Sell! Buy! Sell! Buy! Sell! ''{Holds a disconnected phone handset to his ear whenever he says "buy" and a mug of coffee to his mouth whenever he says "sell". Then he collapses to the desk, exhausted, and his hair changes back to its normal, unkempt state}'' Uhhh...

'''1-UP:''' No, no, no. THAT'S not it! ''{Laughs on "it".}''

''{Wipe to back outside. Close-up of 1-Up; the Cheatball can be seen spinning on his head.}''

'''1-UP:''' I'm thankful for the Cheatball spinning profusely on my head!

'''STINKOMAN:''' Oh yeah! Now I REALLY got it! Like this! ''{Backflips off-screen. Rapid pan to show Stinkoman's foot sticking out of the ground. The foot wiggles as muffled speaking noises can be heard.}''

'''1-UP:''' ''{Walks up, Cheatball still spinning on his head.}'' That's not it, either!

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{Appearing on the other side of the screen}'' Say WHAT?

''{Diamond wipe to a shot of Stinkoman and 1-Up, sans Cheatball, in front of a mountain range.}''

'''1-UP:''' People give thanks for things like ''{Close-up as 1-Up holds up one item of each of the following as he says it.}'' favorite food, spiced bun, frozen bake, and all that, and all that.

''{Back to the long shot. The aforementioned items are sitting on the ground next to 1-Up.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{Wiping his brow}'' Man, oh, man-o! Who would've thought that giving thanks was such a formidable challenge? ''{Triumphant pose}'' Hey wait, that's it! ''{Charges up, and suddenly gets incredibly muscular. Small rocks float up off the ground, and the level 1 music plays dimly in the background.}'' Whoooaaa, making small rocks float up off the GRRROOOOOUUUUUUUUND! ''{As Stinkoman returns to normal, the level 2 cutscene music plays, again dimly in the background, and a pilgrim's hat appears on his head with a ''ding!''}'' I'm thankful that my hat is wearing a belt!

'''1-UP:''' Great job, Stinkoman! You got the Green Crystal Shard! ''{Shard appears with a green flash.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Will we ever find all the colors before the bad guy?

''{Rapid pan to the top of a mountain showing a shadowy figure with the red, blue and yellow shards. The shadowy figure laughs evilly. Scene freezes, and changes to an ink-drawing style. The credits appear on the screen.}''

'''VOICE-OVER:''' Be sure and tune in for tomorrow's exciting episode of... ''{Stinkoman appears, holding all four shards, and the title appears over the top.}'' ''Stinkoman and the Challenge of the Crystal Shards''!

''{Shot of Stinkoman at the desk in Pan Pan's stomach as before.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Buy! Sell! Buy! Sell! Buy!

''{Back to title screen.}''

'''VOICE-OVER:''' Or... maybe don't. ''{Gong sounds. Back button appears.}''

''{The credits read:''}

<blockquote>
directed by 
A. Chimendez 
 
written by 
Beverly 
Sportsinterviews-Chimendez 
 
animators: 
i can not name all of them. 
one is sarah.
</blockquote>

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The [[wikipedia:Epiglottis|epiglottis]] is a flap of cartilage at the back of the mouth. When swallowing, it folds down, preventing food from entering the windpipe, and sending it down the esophagus instead.

===Remarks===
*This is the first time the Shadowy Figure has appeared in a toon.
*The "back" button can only be activated by clicking directly on the letters. Most text links on the site have the entire rectangular area defined as clickable to make them easier to click.

===Goofs===
*The logo on Stinkoman's hat flips horizontally each time his head changes directions.
*In the frame right before Stinkoman gets on the desk, he is shown without legs.
*When Stinkoman gets his pilgrim's hat for the first time, it covers his usual, spiked hairstyle. However, in the scene that follows his receiving the crystal shard, it turns to his Business executive hairstyle, and remains that way for the rest of the cartoon.

===Fixed Goofs===
*Originally, the name plate on the desk was supposed to read "Top Exec" using Arial [[font]] but the text did not display. This was fixed shortly after release, now using Algerian font.
*Originally, the crops weren't shown in the cartoon, the background was all green grass.

===Inside References===
[[Image:StinkoTwins.png|200px|thumb|"That's not it either!"]]
*Stinkoman's [[green tongue]] is seen in this toon, though his tongue is pink when he is talking.
*[[Lem Sportsinterviews#Beverly Sportsinterviews|Beverly Sportsinterviews]]-[[A. Chimendez|Chimendez]] is credited as the writer of ''Stinkoman and the Challenge of the Crystal Shards''.
*[[Duplicate Characters|Two Stinkomans]] appear when all but his leg is buried.
*The crystal shards look similar to those found on the [[Homsar Reservation]] in [[Strong Badia the Free]].
*Top Exec Stinkoman uses a [[disconnected telephone]].
*The inner lining of Pan-Pan's stomach resembles a [[brain]].
*1-Up saying "And all that" twice is similar to Homestar's tendency to repeat sentence fragments on occasion.
*Stinkoman and 1-Up [[Characters Being Eaten|go inside]] Pan Pan.

===Real-World References===
*Pan-Pan sucking up the characters is similar to the video game character [[Wikipedia:Kirby (character)|Kirby]].
*The "Making small rocks float up off the GRRROOOOOUUUUUUUUND!" sequence is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Dragon Ball Z|''Dragon Ball Z'']]. When characters "power up", rocks around them begin to float in a similar fashion, usually accompanied by their muscles bulging and an electric aura appearing around them.
*Stinkoman is wearing a hat from the [[Wikipedia:Deere & Company|John Deere]] tractor company.
*The color scheme and decals (the [[Wikipedia:Citizen Watch Co.|Citizen]] logo and U.S. Air Force [[Wikipedia:Roundel#Use on military aircraft|roundel]]) on Stinkoman's tractor resemble those on [[Wikipedia:Akira (manga)#Characters|Kaneda's]] motorcycle in ''[[Akira]]''.
*The cartoon in general appears to parody Japanese stereotypes of America, with generally "naive"-seeming interpretations of an American holiday in the cartoon.


===Fast Forward===
*The [[Frozen Bake]] would later be seen in [[Where My Hat Is At? (toon)]].

==External Links==
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technology

Loafing — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:54:41 GMT

Loafing: rv. already listed under Trivia

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[[Image:sbemail143.png|thumb|Demonstrating the art of floppy disk folding.]]

Strong Bad makes an introduction to technology for middle school students.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Bubs}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Homestar Runner}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Strong Sad}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Classroom]], [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, January 30, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:47

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Five}}, {{dvd|Sbemails' 50 Greatest Hits DVD|notitle=true}}

== Transcript ==
''{Strong Bad types "strongbad_email.exe" and presses enter.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Don't you wanna email, don't you need a email, don't you turn your life around!

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: little help, please</div>
Dear Strong Bad; 
I'm a middle school technology teacher. I would really 
appreciate it if you could come up with an introduction I 
could use for my new classes. Thanks. 
Jay 
Oswego NY
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "Oswego NY" as "Oswego to New York" with "Oswego" in a sing-song voice, as if saying "Off we go!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' You would ''really appreciate'' it? That's it? Man, back in the olden ''{pronounces "olden" as ol-dèn}'' days, I could get upwards of 3 chickens, a sack of barley and a half-dead goat all for doing one of my technology intromercials. ''{clears screen}'' Well, I sure hope JCPenney's accepts really appreciate it's, 'cause I know for a fact they stopped taking ''{exaggerates voice}'' I'll be your best friend's ''{returns to normal}'' a while ago. Either way, middle school kids are all idiots and they need as much of my help and guidance as they can get.

''{Strong Bad gets up. Cut to a classroom with Strong Bad in a white lab coat, the words "I'M USING TECHNOLOGY" written on the blackboard and a poster with a drawing of a computer captioned "computers don't BYTE".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{moving his hands in a robotic way, speaking in a robotic voice}'' One, zero zero, one one, zero, one, one zero, one one zero, zero one. ''{normal voice}'' You may not have understood me, but I was speaking technology.

''{Cut to a close-up of Strong Bad's head in the lab.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The word "technology"... means... "magic". It's basically anything that's really cool that you don't know how it works. And if it breaks, you have to buy a new one. Why, I've got some technology beneath my pants right now! Whoo-ya!

''{Cut to the full classroom shot again. Strong Bad takes a 5¼" floppy disk with the logo "5.25 power" from behind him, throws it in the air and catches it in his right hand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' This is a diskette. Diskettes were invented by computers to help us. Like how cows—

''{A crude drawing of a cow replaces the text on the blackboard.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —invented milk.

''{Zoom in on Strong Bad's head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The two warring factions of diskettes are floppy disks—

''{He shakes the 5¼" disk, emphasizing its floppiness.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —and hard disks.

''{He lifts an unlabeled 3½" floppy disk in his right hand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I prefer ''{hides the 3½" disk}'' these big ones because they hold more memory, although you have to ''{crumples the 5¼" disk}'' fold them up to fit them into these new computers.

''{Camera pans right to center on the "computers don't BYTE!" poster. Strong Bad drops the crumpled disk and continues.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Another thing you'll need is your very own email address.

''{Cut to a [[Tandy 400]]-like computer screen with an orange envelope labeled "email".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Just take your favorite hobby,—

''{The words "soccer", "ballet", "nachoeating", "skater", "fire", "football", "racecar" and "swimteam" alternate under the envelope and stop on "swimteam".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' — add kid, grrl, pie or izzle—

''{The words alternate next to "swimteam" as he speaks them, then being replaced by "pie".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —and put a bunch of numbers at the end!

''{The number "33331" appears next to "pie". The address is completed with "@kindergartencop.edu" appearing on the next line. Then, cut to the classroom with a picture of a robot marching towards a city and the text "gank gank!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{moves his hands and head in a robotic way, speaking in a robotic voice}'' Robots are technology shaped like square people. ''{returns to normal voice}'' They are primarily used for destroying Japan and serving hors d'œuvres.

''{The Cheat walks up to Strong Bad with a plate of hors d'œuvres, making robotic The Cheat noises and encased in what appears to be an upside-down metal pail. The pail has bolts and a smiley mouth drawn on it in black marker and light bulbs sticking out of holes cut in the sides.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah, The Cheatbot! I would love a stuffed grape leaf! ''{grabs one and eats it}''

''{Cut to The Field, where the lab coat-wearing Strong Bad and "The Cheatbot" are standing next to Pom Pom, who is talking to someone on his cell phone.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Originally, tellular cellaphones ''{indicating Pom Pom's phone}'' were for sending misspelled messages to your friends, telling them where you are in the food court.

'''POM POM:''' ''{makes a few bubbling noises directed at Strong Bad, then resumes his conversation}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Pom Pom just bought movie tickets with his cell phone!

'''POM POM:''' ''{looks annoyed and makes more bubbling noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, he just watched a movie ''on'' his cell phone!

'''POM POM:''' ''{looks angry at Strong Bad, makes more bubbling noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh oh ''oh''! Pom Pom just wrote, directed, produced, and ''distributed'' a movie with his cell phone!

'''POM POM:''' ''{answers an incoming call and makes a few more bubbling noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...and he just got into Sundance! High-five, brother!

''{Pom Pom absorbs his phone into his body, produces a pair of sunglasses and a water bottle, and bounces off, "drinking" from the water bottle.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{holding out for the high-five a bit longer}'' Uh, cool, right. I'll, uh... see you later. ''{He emphasizes "see" and "you", as though saying "C U". He waits a bit, then turns to The Cheat.}'' What are you still doing here, The Cheatbot?

''{Cut back to the classroom, where the blackboard now reads "THE FUTURE??" in large letters.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The future of technology, or at least what people won't shut up about, is wireless. You know, things like—

''{The view zooms in on the blackboard, which displays drawings of each of the items Strong Bad mentions.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —walkmans, flashlights, and solar calculators.

''{He pops up in front of the blackboard and holds up a "Cakkalate" brand calculator which has the digits "53045 3080" typed in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look, I can make mine say "oboe shoes"!

''{He turns the calculator upside-down so that the digits resemble the words "OBOE ShOES". Cut back to the Lappy, as Strong Bad sits back down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And then there's the Lappy, which rules over technology with a 42 pound, allegedly portable fist. Watch as it magically saves this screen.

''{Strong Bad types "screen_savior.exe" on a new line, bringing up a screen saver that resembles a primitive 3D maze. The words "Strong Bad gots the style" are written on the wall at every turn.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The screen is saved, man. This thing's gonna last like 50 years! Alright, awkward children, I'm all done kickin' my tech-knowledge. Now leave me alone! Got to find my way out of these catacombs...

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{mumbling to himself}'' Left... left... no, right... no, left... OK... just keep goin'... Strong Bad... style...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{after some time}'' Where are you taking me, Lappy?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{after another delay}'' Man... I throwed up all over this maze.

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Technology goat.PNG|thumb|Half-dead... or half-alive?]]
*Click on the words "half-dead goat" for a picture of a goat with the caption: "Do you see this goat as half-dead or half-alive?"
*Click the left side of the Lappy's screen at the end to see Strong Bad and Strong Sad arguing over floppy/hard disks.
:'''STRONG SAD:''' I keep telling you they're ''both'' floppy disks!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' You think ''this'' is a floppy disk?
:'''STRONG SAD:''' Yes, it is!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' It's not a hard disk? ''{he hits his desk with the disk three times}''
:'''STRONG SAD:''' No.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' And you're sure about this?
:'''STRONG SAD:''' Absolu- ''{Strong Bad throws the disk at Strong Sad's face}'' Ow!
*Click the right side of the Lappy's screen at the end to see Bubs selling Wireless Extension Cords.
:'''BUBS:''' Get your wireless extension cords. Three for three hundred! Lightweight, existent, and shockproof!
:''{Homestar peeks out from the left edge of the screen}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Umm... I'll take fooour! ''{he inexplicably flies up the left screen edge and disappears}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*When Strong Bad "speaks technology", he is speaking in [[Wikipedia:Binary numeral system|binary code]], where each 1 or 0 is a bit.
**A [[Wikipedia:Byte|byte]] is an ordered collection of 8 bits.
*There are two kinds of disks shown in the email, 5¼" and 3½", and they are both [[wikipedia:floppy disk|floppy disks]] (meaning Strong Sad was correct). Note that not only does Strong Bad misidentify the 3½" floppy disk, but he incorrectly states that the larger disk has more memory. His wording is incorrect here, too, as floppy disks don't have [[Wikipedia:Random access memory|memory]], per se, they have disk space. The smaller one has more disk space.
**In a 3½" floppy disk, the disk itself is flexible, hence the name "floppy disk", even though it is inside a hard case. In a hard disk, the disk itself is inflexible.
*A [[wikipedia:hard disk|hard disk]] or hard drive (more correctly: "hard disk drive") is a storage unit for computer files that is usually located inside the computer and, therefore, not portable. Though recent technology has made hard drives that are both external and portable, the disk in Strong Bad's hand is ''not'' a hard disk.
*A [[Wikipedia:Catacomb|catacomb]] is any network of caves, grottos, or subterranean place that is used for the burial of the dead, or it can refer to a specific underground burial place.
*The comment about robots destroying Japan refers to Japanese [[Wikipedia:kaiju|kaiju]] films or [[Wikipedia:tokusatsu|tokusatsu]] shows in which major cities are destroyed by giant monsters and robots. The best-known example of this genre is [[Wikipedia:Godzilla|Godzilla]].
*When Strong Bad says he "throwed up all over this maze", he means his graffiti. A "[[Wikipedia:Graffiti terminology|throw-up]]" is a work of graffiti of a complexity between that of "tag" and a "piece". He's speaking loosely (or ignorantly), because his hasty scrawl would more likely be considered a tag.
*When Strong Bad makes his calculator say 'Oboe Shoes', he is referring to the popular elementary/middle school practice of calculator writing.

===Trivia===
[[File:BobRedford.png|thumb|Originally, tellular cellaphones were for sending misspelled messages...]]
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#gold rush|gold rush]]".
*Taken as a whole number, Strong Bad's binary sequence "10011011011001" represents the number 9945. In 7-bit [[Wikipedia:ASCII|ASCII]], this sequence represents the letters "<tt>MY</tt>".
**This sequence is also a [[wikipedia:palindrome|palindrome]].

*"Tellular cellaphone" is a [[spoonerism]], a mixing-up of the initial sounds of a pair of words.
*This is the first e-mail where Strong Bad supposedly hits Enter after every line, and he does this from from every e-mail afterward. Before, Strong Bad was always able to skip to a new line without hitting Enter, except perhaps during [[Tandy 400]] e-mails.
*Pom Pom's Treo 650 [[cell phone]] seems to have AT&T phone service. When he's receiving the second call, if you zoom in, you can see that he's getting a call from [[Wikipedia:Robert Redford|Bob Redford]], and the Blue Bars design of AT&T is under it.
*The computer on the "Computers don't BYTE" poster in the classroom resembles an [[Apple IIe]] with a DuoDisk floppy drive.

===Goofs===

*When Strong Bad turns his head when saying "magic", it appears his face and the chalkboard are together, because his mask is the same color as the chalkboard.

===Remarks===
*You cannot actually fold a 5¼" floppy disk to make it work in a 3½" drive. Attempting to do so will destroy the media (and possibly damage the disk drive).
**Moreover, the computer in the poster he gestures at when describing this procedure doesn't actually have a 3½" drive.
*The screensaver goes in an endless loop of Forward, Turn Right, Forward, Turn Left...
:*Due to the poor graphic quality, it is difficult to tell whether the maze actually has left and right turns. An alternative to the layout described above is that the observer "walks" up and down a single closed hallway, turning around (left or right) at each end.
*Strong Bad has referred to the 3½" disks as floppy disks in the email [[funny]], in which he says "Let's see here...I can tape this blank floppy disk to my head and start talking gibberish and acting like the crazy squeaky guy".
*The number on the chalkboard solar calculator, 3.14, is the most common approximation of [[pi]].
*A typical solar calculator has space for only 8 numbers in its display. Strong Bad's has 10.
**This calculator is also able to insert spaces between numbers, which normal calculators can't do.
*Bubs's "wireless extension cords" call to mind the [[Wikipedia:Magnifying transmitter|magnifying transmitter]], an experimental device developed by [[Wikipedia:Nicola Tesla|Nicola Tesla]] as part of his research into the possibility of wireless power transmission.
**For [[Wikipedia:April Fool's Day|April Fool's Day]] 2006, the online retailer [[Wikipedia:ThinkGeek|ThinkGeek]] advertised [http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/wec.shtml wireless extension cords], although at US $34.99 each, they are somewhat less expensive than Bubs'.
*The [[Wikipedia:screensaver|screensaver]] won't actually help the Lappy's [[Wikipedia:Liquid crystal display|LCD]] screen — only older [[Wikipedia:Cathode ray tube|CRT]] monitors needed screensavers to prevent an image being burned into the screen.
**Incidentally, screensavers have almost entirely been replaced by "standby mode", where the monitor turns off to save power

=== Inside References ===
*Pom Pom's ring tone is the indietronic remix of [[The Geddup Noise]], heard in the email [[geddup noise]].
*The "kindergartencop.edu" domain was also used in [[unused emails]], for the email address that Bubs sends spam to.
*The Lappy being 42 pounds and portable is also mentioned in [[animal]], when it first debuted.
*This is another appearance of [[Goats]].
*[[The Cheatbot|The Cheatbot's]] sounds are similar to those he makes in the intro to the news program in [[local news]].
*When Strong Bad is describing how to create an e-mail address, there are references to both '[[grrl]]' and '[[Pie]]'.
*This is another instance of the [[Food Court]].

* During the screen saver, Strong Bad says, "Left, left, no! Right, left...", similar to Homestar's mistake in [[TrogdorCon '97]].
*The [[Cakkalate]] is a reference to how Strong Bad pronounces "calculations" in [[space program]].
*When Strong Bad says "Oh oh ohhhhhh" when talking about Pom Pom's cell phone, it is similar to Homestar Runner's pronunciation of the same phrase in [[couch patch]].

=== Real-World References ===
*The "catacombs" screensaver on the Lappy is reminiscent of the "3D-Maze" screen saver first introduced in [[Wikipedia:Windows 95|Windows 95 OSR-2]]. It is also similar to the 1991 DOS game [[Wikipedia:Catacomb 3D|Catacomb Abyss]].
*''[[imdb:tt0099938|Kindergarten Cop]]'' is a movie starring [[Wikipedia:Arnold Schwarzenegger|Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as an undercover cop posing as a teacher.
*Pom Pom's cell phone looks like a [[Wikipedia:Treo|Palm Treo]] [[Wikipedia:Treo 600|600]], [[Wikipedia:Treo 650|650]], or [[Wikipedia:Treo 700w|700w]].
*Pom Pom's cell phone says "Incoming Call: Bob Redford", referring to American actor [[Wikipedia:Robert Redford|Robert Redford]].
*[[Wikipedia:Sundance Film Festival|Sundance]] is an annual independent film festival in Park City, Utah, founded by actor Robert Redford. The name refers to Redford's portrayal of The Sundance Kid in the film [[IMDB:tt0064115|Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid.]]
*"Do you see this goat as half-dead or half-alive?" is a reference to the famous expression "[[Wikipedia:Is the glass half empty or half full|Do you see this glass as half-empty or half-full?]]", a psychological question often used to determine if a person is optimistic or pessimistic.
*Strong Bad's definition of technology may be a spoof on [[Wikipedia:Clarke's three laws|Clarke's third law]]: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Most middle-school technology classes begin with the definition of technology, which is the use of tools, materials, and knowledge to solve problems and do tasks efficiently.
*On the poster that says ''computers don't BYTE'', the font used for BYTE is the same font used in [[Wikipedia:BYTE|BYTE magazine]]. The computer on the poster also resembles an [[Wikipedia:IBM XT|IBM XT]].
*When Strong Bad says he will be "Kicking (his) new Tech-Kuh-Nowledge", he is referencing the [[Wikipedia:Beastie Boys|Beastie Boys]], in particular "The Sounds Of Science" on [[Wikipedia:Paul's Boutique|Paul's Boutique]]. The lyrics go "''I've been dropping the new science and kicking the new knowledge An M.C. to a degree that you can't get in college''", in which "Knowledge" is pronounced with the "K" in the way Strong Bad does in the toon.
*"Intromercial" is a play on [[Wikipedia:infomercial|"infomercial"]], a commercial that usually lasts at least half an hour, often called "paid programming".
**It is also a [[portmanteau]] of informercial and intro(duction).
*Strong Bad uses the term "[[Wikipedia:-izzle|-izzle]]," an English suffix used for pop-culture hip hop slang initially used by [[Wikipedia:Gap Band#Hip hop influence|The Gap Band]], but popularized by rapper Snoop Dogg and Bay Area Rapper E-40.
*The phrase "I'm using technology" is a line from the song [[Wikipedia:Search and Destroy|"Search and Destroy"]] by Iggy Pop and the Stooges.
*[[Wikipedia:J.C. Penney|JCPenney]] is a large chain of department stores commonly found in malls.
*A [[Wikipedia:Walkman|Walkman]] is a portable cassette player manufactured by Sony that was popular in the 1980s and early '90s. In recent years, Sony has used the brand on MP3 players and cell phones.


== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' Mike, we have a sister that—

'''MIKE:''' ''What?!''

'''MATT:''' Yeah! ''{gasps}'' Hold the phone! We have a sister that teaches young children about technology.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, it's true.

'''MATT:''' On the computers!

'''MIKE:''' It's true, I bet she doesn't do a very good job of—

'''MATT:''' Aww, that's not true.

'''MIKE:''' No, no. She teaches little babies about things though.

'''MATT:''' Really.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Little babies?

'''MIKE:''' Like two year olds.

'''MATT:''' I don't think that's true. I think it's like fifth graders.

'''MIKE:''' Well... ''{pause}'' Do you think she uses this as a teaching aid?

'''MATT:''' Probably not. I think we've been banned —

'''MIKE:''' Really?

'''MATT:''' —in public schools.

'''MIKE:''' She doesn't teach it at a public school, that's for darned sure.

'''MATT:''' One time I swore a cuss — on my website.

'''MIKE:''' Do it right now.

'''MATT:''' Yeah?

'''MIKE:''' Do it right now.

'''MATT:''' Parg.

'''MIKE:''' Parg. ''{pause}'' Wow. Sorry moms. All you moms out there that just heard that. Dads don't care.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, dads love a curse.

'''MIKE:''' Dads love a good curse.

''{long pause until Strong Bad finishes "speaking" in binary}''

'''MATT:''' We should have our friend who makes home brew Atari games turn that string of binary code into something.

'''MIKE:''' Find out what it is? Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Make some video art out of it. ''{pause}'' So "Computers don't Byte", that was a popular poster for computer labs back in the '80s.

'''MIKE:''' Yep.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' Thanks computers!

'''MIKE:''' Two disk drives? That was also popular in the '80s.

'''MATT:''' "diskcopy a: b:", that was always—

'''MIKE:''' That was for one disk drive. Or wait, no—

'''MATT:''' But you had "B".

'''MIKE:''' There was one way where you could do it where you could copy something with, uh—

'''MATT:''' Yeah, what was it saving it to?

'''MIKE:''' I guess— I don't know. Maybe it had a hard drive? But I remember—

'''MATT:''' A little bit of RAM?

'''MIKE:''' you had to switch back and forth a million times. ''{pause}'' So that was first— this is the first time we used the amber, instead of green monochrome.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I think that kinda was the inspiration for Thy Dungeonman III, wasn't it?

'''MIKE:''' Well, I think we'd actually done the— ''some'' graphics for Thy Dungeonman III before that.

'''MATT:''' Oh, had we already?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, yeah. But we have friends that had a quote unquote portable computer ''{laughs}'' that weighs about...

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}}'' That weighed about 50 pounds.

'''MIKE:''' It was ''huge'' and it had a very— the keyboard flipped down from the front, and revealing a 5-inch or 6-inch amber monochrome monitor.

'''MATT:''' Oh yes.

'''MIKE:''' Played a lot of Karataka on that, maybe?

'''MATT:''' Ooo, nice. Hey, our— we have a friend who just got into Sundance!

'''MIKE:''' And it wasn't Pom Pom!

'''MATT:''' It wasn't!

'''MIKE:''' It was the person who invented Pom Pom.

'''MATT:''' That's true.

'''MIKE:''' Our Craig Zobel.

'''MATT:''' Our very own millioniare gadabout. Craig Zobel. ''{pronounced krayg-zowbel}''

'''MIKE:''' He looks just like that.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, he's always drinking bottled water and wearing Ray-bans. ''{pause}'' The Cheatbot is adorable.

'''MIKE:''' I like him.

'''MATT:''' I'm going to make a— submit a fanstuff to our''self''. ''{overlapping}'' where I cut a hole in a bucket—

'''MIKE:''' You're going to put a bucket over a stuffed The Cheat?

'''MATT:''' Uh huh.

'''MIKE:''' That's a good idea. ''{pause}'' It doesn't get much more fun than drawing stuff on chalkboards.

'''MATT:''' Nope. ''{reading calculator}'' "Oboe shoes". Strong Bad doesn't really know— know much about computers, does he Mike? He got the hard disk and floppy disk thing all wrong—

'''MIKE:''' Check.

'''MATT:''' I can remember, uh, correcting a teacher in seventh grade.

'''MIKE:''' Check.

'''MATT:''' Check?

'''MIKE:''' Yes. Sorry.

'''MATT:''' Is this a list?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Oh, all right. Uh, a dozen eggs.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Nope, still need those.

'''MATT:''' Whole wheat flour. Uh, do you remember this? I forget what it was called.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah the old—

'''MATT:''' "Maze", "3D Maze", or something.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' It was a nice screen saver.

'''MIKE:''' Screen saver for, what, like Windows '94 or something?

'''MATT:''' Yeah. It looks very Wolfenstein. ''{pause}'' Um..

'''MIKE:''' Oh, this keeps going for a bit right?

'''MATT:''' Yeah it does.

'''MIKE:''' Does it ever do something different, or does it?

'''MATT:''' No.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, ok.

'''MATT:''' No.

'''MIKE:''' Just keeps going for—

'''MATT:''' Do you think that maybe, uh— those words that he put on the wall, that's customizable?

'''MIKE:''' Ooo. It should be. Type in whatever you want.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

== External Links ==
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Jibblies 2

Loafing — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:05:15 GMT

Loafing: rv. Wikipedia says "direct to video" for 2. that means VHS

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[[Image:Jibblies 2 Rocoulm Pom Pom Strong Sad.png|thumb|"Come on in heeeeere."]]

The [[Horrible Painting]] wreaks havoc on the citizens of [[Free Country, USA]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Mad}}, [[Horrible Painting]], {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), {{film|The Goblin}}

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'''Places:''' [[Strong Mad's Room]], [[The Stick]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Bar]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]], [[The King of Town's Castle]], [[Basement of the Brothers Strong]], Inside the [[Horrible Painting]]

'''Date:''' Monday, October 29, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 6:44

'''Page Title:''' Buy a bag, go home in a box!

==Transcript==
''{Strong Mad stands in front of a mirror labeled "Man of the Year" and "TIME", and places a Russian hat on his head while grunting contentedly. He becomes confused and turns away from the mirror.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' I FORGOT MY RUSKIE FLAG!

''{Foreboding music starts to play as Strong Mad walks to and opens the closet.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeeere....

'''STRONG MAD:''' AUGH! JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE!

''{Title appears: "Jibblies 2", "an incredibly scary halloween-type cartoon", "made by the same people who always make these cartoons", "okay, maybe it's not that scary"}''

''{Cut to The Stick.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}'' ''{flips a hat onto The Stick}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, he looks adorable. Get a picture. Get a picture.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises; imitating the shutter click}'' ''{takes a picture with an imaginary camera}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's a keeper.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{querying The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I don't know where Strong Mad is. You'd better go check on him.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noises}'' ''{walks away}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{calling out}'' Make sure he didn't get into our stash of razor blade candy apples again! ''{pause; to The Stick}'' I hate you.

''{Cut to The Brothers Strong's house.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{walking in}'' ''{casual The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to Strong Mad standing with his eyes shut and twitching violently.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{screams, flails arms wildly}''

''{Strong Mad continues moaning and twitching. The Cheat stands in the doorway in shock and the Horrible Painting approaches him from behind.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeeeeeere....

''{The Cheat turns around and is bombarded with green circles emanating from the Horrible Painting. Cut to a statue shaking on the shelf while The Cheat continues screaming.}''

''{Cut to Marzipan playing a yellow guitar.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing off key (see [[#Trivia|below]]) with the notes}'' E... A... D... G.... ''{phone begins to ring}'' Homestar, could you get that?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{off-screen}'' No way!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{annoyed}'' Homestar, I'm busy tuning my costume! ''{strums}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{off-screen}'' And ''I'm'' busy not answering the phone!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Humph. ''{Cut to answering machine with 666 waiting messages; foreboding music plays.}'' Oh, great, you made me miss it.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{answering machine recording}'' Boo! This is Marzipan. Leave me a spooky message. ''{beep}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' ''{answering machine recording}'' Come on in heeeeeere.... ''{green circles emanate from the speaker}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Jibblie jibblie jibblie... ''{continues while her eyes appear swirled}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{simultaneously; walks on screen}'' Marzipan! I'm done not answering the phone! Do you still need me to answer the phone? Marzipan? What are you doing? Are you playing a song? What is that? Raspberry Beret? Wait, what's that? You say you want me to go out by myself and leave you here? Okay! If you say so! ''{walks away}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{continuing insulting The Stick, from earlier}'' ...and your stupid face! And your stupid face!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{walking on screen}'' Hey, Strong Bad! ''{to The Stick}'' Hey, The Cheat!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, if it isn't the Human Grate On My Nerves! Don't you have an estranged girlfriend to be annoying somewhere?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Naw, she's busy shimmying and shaking and talking about giblets or something.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Jibbilits? ''{foreboding music}'' Wait, Homestar, are you telling me that Marzipan has the jibblies?!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad, I think that's a bit of a personal question.

'''STRONG BAD:''' We gotta hurry! Strong Mad and The Cheat are in great...-ve... danger! ''{runs off}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{pause; to The Stick}'' I hate you, The Stick.

''{Cut to The Brothers Strong's house.}''

''{Homestar and Strong Bad peek in the doorway and gasp. Cut to The Cheat and Strong Mad, who both have the jibblies.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh no! We're snowed in! ''{cut back to Homestar and Strong Bad}'' I mean, we're too late! I know who's behind all this! ''{walks to and opens closet, revealing a stuffed dinosaur}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Poodonkis is behind all this?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, no, no, not Strong Mad's stuffed ''Dromiceiomimus''. There's usually this really horrible painting in there. ''{cut to Horrible Painting}'' Of some kind of demon holding a torch. Why is he holding that torch?!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad and Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, you mean the jibblies painting.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{abrupt record scratch}'' Wait, you know about it?!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah! Brother called up Marzipan right before I ran into you.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Jibblies via phone line? It's worse than I thought!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Poodonkis must be stopped!

''{Cut to a table.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{deals a card}'' Oh, the Clutch of Glaives. ''{to Pom Pom}'' That means you should start sending some hot chicks over to your ''{pats his belly}'' dumpier friends. ''{flips another card}'' Ooh, and the Cult of Ray. That means you should ''{puts hands on hips}'' seriously stop hogging all the hot chicks!

'''POM POM:''' ''{accusatory bubbling noises}'' ''{points at Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Don't look at ''{pats his belly}'' me! The cards do not lie! ''{flips over a card with the demon from the Horrible Painting on it, which reads, "THE ROCOULM".}'' Weird. I've never seen this one before.

''{The card flashes and suddenly the Horrible Painting appears on the far wall.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeeeeere....

'''STRONG SAD:''' Jibblie jibblie jibblie... ''{continues while twitching his fingers}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{simultaneously}'' ''{jibblie-like bubbling noises accompanied by electrical sounds from his costume; continues}''

''{Cut to a silhouetted backdrop of outside Bubs' Concession Stand. Homestar and Strong Bad are seen running towards it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bubs!! Bubs!!

''{Cut to view of inside Bubs' Concession Stand looking outward}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' We're gonna need garlic, crosses, silver bullets, holy water, and VHS copies of Pumpkinshead 2 through 4! ''{pause}'' Bubs?

'''BUBS:''' ''{offscreen}'' Jibblie!

''{Cut to behind Bubs' Concession Stand.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Bubs?

'''BUBS:''' Jibblie!

''{Bubs is sitting on the ground, obviously jibblified.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' We're snowed in again!

'''BUBS:''' Jibblie?

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, Homestar, we're on our own.

'''BUBS:''' Jibblie!

'''STRONG BAD:''' All the good characters have already been jibblied.

'''BUBS:''' Ahh... jibblie.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What about Coach—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupts}'' ''All''... the good... characters.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What we gonna do?

'''STRONG BAD:''' We gotta hide, man! That thing is unstoppable! We'll live underground and slowly evolve into mole people with gross eyes and claws. ''{forms his hands into claws and hisses}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Sounds like a plan!

''{Cut to the showers in Coach Z's locker room.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Yes, when it's Hallerwern night and there's an insane paintin' running around, there's no safer place for a pretty young thing like me than in the shower. My good man, would ya please pass the Port Plus?

''{Cut to the Horrible Painting in the corner, wearing a shower cap}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeeeere.

''{Cut back to Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ehh-jorbaly jorbaly jorbaly... ''{continues}''

''{Cut to the castle.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ding-dang-it, Poopsmith, I want me some of that giblet flu that's been going around. That mess sounds delicious!

''{Zoom in on the castle wall, a rock slides out of it, revealing the painting's face behind it}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Guess what, come on in heeeere.

''{Cuts back to the King of Town and the Poopsmith}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Oooh, giblet giblet... ''{continues}''

''{The Poopsmith's mouth quivers and he holds up a sign that says, "''JIBBLIE JIBBLIE''". Cut to the couch in Strong Bad's basement where Strong Bad and Homestar peek their head up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now all the lame characters have been jibblied too!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Eh-hem.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Eh, sorry man. All but one.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thank you very much.

''{Close-up of Strong Bad behind the couch.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, time to start evolving into mole people. Now shut your eyes really tight ''{closes eyes}'' and try and heighten your other senses. ''{grunts and feels about for Homestar}'' Eh, Homestar?

''{Strong Bad opens his eyes and frowns when he sees the Horrible Painting sitting where Homestar was moments ago.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come... on... in heeeere!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Not again! Jibblie Jibblie Jibblie... ''{starts smiling again. He continues wildly while hurtling into the air, dancing across the ceiling, and finally landing behind the couch. The Painting lands on the couch just before Homestar enters, carrying a sandwich on a plate.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Sorry, makin' a sandwich. What did you just say?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeeere.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Come on in there? Okay. ''{steps into painting}''

''{Cut to a dungeon-like cave with a torch hanging on the wall. Homestar steps into the cave, having been transformed into a stylized, differently-colored version of himself.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa, nice style! Hello? I came on in here!

''{The Rocoulm is sitting in a corner and waves.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' How's it going, man?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pretty good, creeptake. Is this your house?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' It's not much, but it's hooome. I plan to redo the kitchen.

''{Shot of the kitchen, which has a sink and a urinal. An orange drip comes from the sink.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That is literally so great. Listen, uh, how come you jibblized all my friends?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' I just wanted someone to come on in heeere. I looove to entertaaain.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What about that guy?

''{Shot of the Goblin dancing while the Goblin music plays. Cut back to Homestar and the Horrible Painting.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' That guy has serious problems.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh. Well, if I let you entertain me, will you un-jibblify my pals?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Yes, but you will have to stay here with me for all eternity.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, no sweat. I love eternity.

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Then it is done. ''{says "Come on in heeeere" backwards}''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad's basement.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{flying into the air}'' Jibblie Jibblie Jibblie Jibblie Super Scope 6! ''{lands on the couch}'' Whoa, the Jibblies are gone! I'm saved!

''{The Cheat and Strong Mad walk in from the left.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' ME TOO.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad, The Cheat, you're all right! Everything is back to normal.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Marzipan walks in from right}'' You guys, have you seen Homestar?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{annoyed}'' What are you doing in my house?

''{Cut to Strong Mad's closet. The Horrible Painting is back inside, only now Homestar is sitting next to the demon. Both are holding cups of tea and there is a slice of cake on the ground.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' So... is it eternity yet? I think it is eternity already. Oops, it's five past eternity. You better let me go. Beep, beep, beep! Your eternity alarm is going off; it's probably time to send me home.

''{Fade to black; a card reading, "END of TOON" is tossed into view.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan is supposed to be making me some giblets or something...

''{Final stinger music plays as background color flashes white and black. Cut to the standard ending scene of the various characters wearing their costumes.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on The Poopsmith's head during the King of Town scene to see a clip of Homsar and The Horrible Painting that will play right after it:
:'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in here?
:'''HOMSAR:''' I'm a touchy feely-holic! ''{Homsar's hat levitates and green circles emanate from inside it}''
:'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' ''{Sliding off the screen}'' Jibblie jibblie jibblie!

*At the end, click on Bubs:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Bubs, nice "Schneider from ''One Day at a Time''" costume.
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' No way. He's Monroe from ''Too Close For Comfort''.
:'''BUBS:''' You're both ''way'' off! Marzipan, do you know who I am?
:'''MARZIPAN:''' I don't know.
:''{Some green slime falls from above and splashes on Marzipan. She frowns.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Daaa... I heard that.

*At the end, click on Strong Bad.
:'''COACH Z:''' Hey, Strong Bad! I thought you was gonna dress up as the alien this year!
:'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{simultaneously with Coach Z's line "this year"}'' Xenomorph! Xenomorph!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I was gonna, but when I got to the Hammakers Slammakers, they were all sold out. I did get an awesome Shiatsu massage wine opener, though.

*At the end, click on Marzipan:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, the girlfriend formerly known as Marzipan, I think you missed a little bit when you were shaving. ''{Marzipan frowns}'' Right there, about the sideburns area.
:'''MARZIPAN:''' More like the former girlfriend known as Marzipan.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Sounds like a plan!

*At the end, click on Homestar:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Pom Pom, now that I'm the strongest man... in the world... let me get that golbol.
:''{Pom Pom gets out the golbol and tosses it into the air. It spins downward and hits Homestar on the head and then flies offscreen.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ow!

*At the end, click on Strong Sad:
:'''STRONG SAD:''' So wait. Was there ever a ''Jibblies 1''?
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Nah, horror movies don't even need first movies anymore. This is the reboot of the reimagining of the reinvention of the original!
:'''STRONG SAD:''' "Original" and "horror movie"? Not these days.

*At the end, click on The King of Town:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' King of Town, I gotta hand it to ya: that is one great melted Don King outfit.
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ooh, I could go for a box of melted King Dons myself.

*At the end, click on The Poopsmith:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Good smells? Where The Poopsmith's going, he doesn't need good smells. ''{The Poopsmith adjusts his glasses}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*"{{p|l=http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ruskie&defid=70720 Ruskie}}" is [[Wikipedia:Cold War|Cold War]]-era slang for a Russian person, most commonly used by Americans. It is a corruption of the Russian word "русский" (pronounced "rooski"), which means "Russian" in the Russian language.
*The cards on the loading and end screen, and during Pom Pom's and Strong Sad's scene, are modeled after the 22 [[Wikipedia:Major Arcana|major arcana]] cards of a [[Wikipedia:Tarot|tarot deck]]. As Strong Sad is doing, they are often used for fortune telling, and have various meanings depending on location and order.
*Most of the supplies Strong Bad asks Bubs for are traditional weapons against mythological creatures: garlic, holy water, and crosses against vampires, and silver bullets against werewolves.
*Strong Bad's mention of razor blade candy apples refers to the [[Snopes:horrors/mayhem/needles.asp|urban legend]] of unscrupulous people leaving dangerous items like needles and razor blades embedded in Halloween treats.
*In place of the Painting in Strong Mad's closet is a stuffed Dromiceiomimus. Dromiceiomimus was an ornithomimid dinosaur (commonly called "ostrich dinosaurs") from late Cretaceous Canada, closely related to Gallimimus. Unlike the stuffed toy Strong Mad has, Dromiceiomimus had no teeth.
*When Marzipan gets the message from the Horrible Painting it is message number [[666]], traditionally referred to as the [[Wikipedia:Number of the Beast|Number of the Beast]].

===Trivia===
*While tuning her guitar, Marzipan plays an [[Singing Out Of Tune|A while singing E]], D while singing A, G while singing D and B while singing G.
*The [[Hanging Objects#Marzipan's House|"Thank You" painting]] in Marzipan's house is dressed up in orange and black for Halloween.
*When the Horrible Painting demon un-jibblifies everyone, the [[Reversed Dialogue|backwards]] sound clip is merely his classic line "come on in here" reversed.
*Strong Sad's tarot cards have "Uh OH, TAROT!" written on the back of them.
*Originally, this toon did not contain the Easter eggs for The King of Town or The Poopsmith. They were added about a day after the toon's release.
*The [[Irregular Loading Screen|loading screen]] reads "the LOADING".
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]] through most of the toon, except right before he is jibblied.
*This toon is the 2nd longest in the site (Disregarding Easter Eggs), The longest toon is email [[retirement]] which is 9 seconds longer than this toon.

===Remarks===
*When Homestar Runner and The Goblin are inside the Horrible Painting, they appear in [[Wikipedia:CMYK color model|cyan, magenta, yellow, and black]] colors only.
*When Pom Pom gets the jibblies, the "mouth" of his Cacodemon costume pulses with electricity the same way the Cacodemon sprite in ''[[Wikipedia:Doom (video game)|Doom]]'' was animated when it used its electricity projectile attack.
*Marzipan's guitar only has five strings pictured. Also, she names the lowest four strings of a guitar, but plays and sings the pitches A, D, G, B (i.e. starts with the second lowest string).
*Marzipan walks toward her answering machine when she tries to answer the phone, but the phone is not on the same table as the answering machine.
*This is the first Halloween toon that does not take place in the [[Spooky Woods]] at any point.
*The tarot card reading "End of Toon" is numbered 27 in Roman numerals - a standard tarot deck includes only Major Arcana cards numbered up to 21, also usually in roman numerals.
*Though Homestar is holding a sandwich when he enters the painting, he is not shown with it once inside.
*In [[bottom 10]] and [[More Fan Costumes]], the jibblies only lasted a few seconds, but in this toon they last until the painting says "Come on in here" backwards.
*Strong Sad's eyes are significantly further up on his head than normal.
*The buttons on Marzipan's answering machine are misaligned compared to its previous appearances.

===Goofs===
*When The Cheat goes into Strong Mad's room, a line can be seen on the wall to the left of the door.
*Strong Sad's mouth doesn't move while speaking after he has been jibblified.
*When you click on any character at the end with an Easter egg, the King of Town's necklace and The Poopsmith's glasses shift to the left slightly and Strong Bad's and Marzipan's mouths change, then return to normal when the dialogue is over.
**The mouths do not change during Bubs', Strong Bad's or Strong Sad's Easter eggs.
*Clicking on Homsar at the end causes his costume name to disappear.

===Fixed Goofs===
*At the end, when everyone's costume is revealed, the name of former pro wrestler [[Wikipedia:Nikolai Volkoff|Nikolai Volkoff]] was misspelled. This has since been corrected.
*When the camera zoomed out to show Marzipan having the jibblies, the buttons weren't on the answering machine. This was fixed later.

===Fixed Glitches===
*When this toon was released, during the close up of Marzipan's Answering Machine, the "next" button was clickable, and doing so repeatedly caused the sound to go out of sync with the animation. This was fixed at the same time that the King of Town and Poopsmith Easter eggs were added.
*At the end of the toon, Homsar would still show scroll-over information while any other Easter eggs were in effect. This was also fixed when the King of Town and Poopsmith Easter eggs were added.

===Inside References===
*The STRONG MAD RD sign on the closet first appeared in [[bottom 10]], though it was partially obscured by the border.
*Strong Bad [[Fourth Wall Breaks|breaks the fourth wall]] by mentioning the cartoon's title and exclaiming the painting got all the good and lame characters.
*When Marzipan has the Jibblies, Homestar says "What are you doing? Are you playing a song?" in almost exactly the same way as in [[Sensitive to Bees]].
*"We're snowed in!" was previously used on [[Main Page 16]].
*The name of the Horrible Painting's tarot card, 'The Rocoulm', was previously referenced in the [[Secret Pages XML Source#Weeklies XML File|weeklies.xml]] file. The link to the Horrible Painting in the weeklies.xml file (before that link was removed) was "rocoulm".
*Pom Pom giving Homestar the [[golbol]] at the end is a reference to [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*Coach Z asks Strong Bad why he wasn't the alien, as he appeared to be in the toon's [[Jibblies 2 Teaser|teaser trailer]].
*This cartoon contains a variation on [[couch mumbling]].
*Strong Mad's stuffed dromiceiomimus is another instance of [[dinosaurs]].
*The Poopsmith pulls his sign from [[Hammerspace]].
*This is the seventh straight Halloween toon where a Homsar Easter egg is accessed by clicking on or near the Poopsmith.
*The Horrible Painting first gave Strong Bad the [[Jibblies]] in [[bottom 10]].

===Real-World References===
*The page title is taken from the tagline of the 1991 horror movie ''[[Wikipedia:Popcorn (1991 film)|Popcorn]]''.
*Strong Mad uses a [[Wikipedia:Person of the Year|''Time'' Magazine Man of the Year]] mirror almost identical to one seen in the film [[The Big Lebowski]].
*[[Poodonkis]] the [[Wikipedia:Dromiceiomimus|Dromiceiomimus]] stands in the same pose as Dromiceiomimus from [[Wikipedia:Dinosaur Comics|Dinosaur Comics]].
* "[[Wikipedia:Raspberry Beret|Raspberry Beret]]" was a hit for Prince & The Revolution in 1985.
* ''[[Wikipedia:The Mole People|The Mole People]]'' was a 1956 science fiction film starring John Agar.
*''[[Wikipedia:One Day at a Time|One Day at a Time]]'' was a long-running American situation comedy that portrayed a divorced mother, played by Bonnie Franklin, her two teenage daughters, and their building superintendent, Dwayne Schneider, played by Pat Harrington Jr. It ran from 1975 to 1984 on [[Wikipedia:Columbia Broadcasting System|CBS]].
* ''[[Wikipedia:Too Close for Comfort (TV series)|Too Close For Comfort]]'' was a American situation comedy starring Ted Knight as a San Francisco cartoonist sharing a duplex. Jim J. Bullock played the character of Monroe. The show ran from 1980 to 1985 on [[Wikipedia:American Broadcasting Company|ABC]] and in syndication.
*The Bubs Easter egg contains references to two running gags from ''[[Wikipedia:You Can't Do That On Television|You Can't Do That On Television]]'': people getting slimed when they say "I don't know," and Barth the Chef (played by Les Lye, who also plays Ross the stage manager who Bubs is dressed as) saying "I ''heard'' that!" when someone made a wisecrack about the meat he puts in his hamburgers.
*''[[Wikipedia:The Cult of Ray|The Cult of Ray]]'' is a 1996 album by [[Wikipedia:Frank Black|Frank Black]]. The illustration on the tarot card is the same as on the album's cover art.
*[[Wikipedia:Xenomorph (Alien)|Xenomorph]] is the technical name for the alien species in the [[Wikipedia:Alien (film series)|Alien]] movies.
*"The Clutch of [[Wikipedia:Glaive#Other uses|Glaives]]" card is a reference to the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Krull (film)|Krull]]''. In it, the hero possessed a weapon called "The Glaive" that looked identical to the picture on Strong Sad's tarot.
*Strong Bad's mention of "Hammaker's Slammakers" in the Easter eggs refers to [[Wikipedia:Hammacher Schlemmer|Hammacher Schlemmer]], a chain of stores that sells high-end luxury gifts.
*''[[Wikipedia:Super Scope 6|Super Scope 6]]'' is an [[Nintendo#Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES)|SNES]] game.
*Coach Z asking for the "Port Plus" is a reference to [http://www.pertplus.com/ Pert Plus], a shampoo/conditioner combination which is meant to supplant the need for separate bottles of shampoo and conditioner.
*"Pumpkinshead 2 through 4" refers to the ''[[Wikipedia:Pumpkinhead (film)|Pumpkinhead]]'' series of films. The 3rd and 4th installments were direct-to-DVD releases, so either Strong Bad is mistaken or this is yet another reference to using [[Strong Bad's Technology |outdated technology]].
*[[Wikipedia:Don King|Don King]] is a boxing promoter.
*[[Wikipedia:Ding Dong|King Don]] is the alternate brand name of the snack cake Ding Dongs sold in Canada.
*Homestar's line in The Poopsmith's Easter egg is a play on [[Wikipedia:Emmett Brown|Doc Brown]]'s final line in the movie ''[[Back to the Future]]'': "Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads."
*Coach Z's line about a [[Showering|shower]] being the safest place for a pretty young thing is a reference to many horror movies, such as ''[[Wikipedia:Psycho (1960 film)|Psycho]]'', that have young women attacked while taking a shower.
*The music throughout the toon and especially at the end is based on [[Wikipedia:Killer Instinct|Killer Instinct]], an early 1990s arcade game that was eventually remade for the [[Nintendo|Super NES]].

===Fast Forward===

*The dramatic music heard throughout the toon is heard again when the [[Carnivorous Undead Sheep]] approaches Homestar and Pom Pom in [[Most In The Graveyard]], the Halloween toon from the following year. It later reappears in [[Fan Costumes '09]], when a child dressed as Coach Z appears.
*Coach Z uses Port Plus in [[hremail3184]].

==External Links==
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== The Beatles' Song? ==

Just a guess, but the title sounds like "She Loves You". --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 21:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Pick a petal, any petal ==

Ain't "Pick a petal, any petal" is a pun on the magician phrase "Pick a card, any card"? [[User:Black Homestar|Black Homestar]] 22:13, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

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Hi. Just saying, though not extremly vulgar in your case, please don't swear in subject bars. We all get that tense some times, but it really distracts us on the recent changes.. Keep up the good work anyway and happy Decemberween. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 02:49, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

== Your recent message to anonny ==

I deleted a message you left for an anonny saying "How dare you!" I honestly have no idea what on earth you were talking about. I can find no evidence that the anonny made any inappropriate contributions at all, and even if he/she did, that message is totally the wrong way to go about it. If an anonny vandalizes a page, please use {{tl|test}} to warn the user. Even then, make sure it's actually vandalism. Leaving and indignant and unclear message like yours won't do any good at all, so please don't do it again. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

:Well, the anonymous user edited a page that had not been edited for nine months. I can get quite annoyed when someone edits a long-untouched page for no particular reason. Now the anon's edits have caused a miniature edit war. Oh, and I believe the anon user should create an account. [[User:Jc iindyysgvxc|Jc iindyysgvxc]] 20:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
::There's nothing wrong with editing a page that hasn't been edited in a while. And it's not "for no particular reason"; the reason is that the anon thought there was something that should be added. The fact that this happened to cause a slight editing dispute is no fault of the anon's. Furthermore, while we do like for people to get accounts, there's nothing at all wrong with editing anonymously. If you're going to take offense at anonnies who edit pages that haven't been edited in a while, perhaps you should simply refrain from talking to anons at all, because it's not OK to post indignant messages for people who haven't done anything wrong. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

== May I ask... ==
Was there consensus on the [[Nicknames]] page to change every instance of self-nicknaming from the character's name to "himself"? You left no reason at all and the talk page says nothing, as well... --{{User:Homsar Jean/sig}} 23:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

== Real topic names ==

Hey there, RickTommy. I've noticed at least half a dozen times that you've just put "{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=693800&oldid=693501 Question}}" in the subject/headline field when starting a new topic. This is less than ideal because it doesn't give someone reading the headline from recent changes or a watchlist some idea of what to expect (or perhaps ignore), it makes it difficult to search for specific topics, and it doesn't mesh well with the page history. Please use a {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=693825&oldid=693817 real topic name}} in the subject/headline field when starting a new topic. It will make things much clearer and useful. Thanks one million! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:10, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
:Reviving this to point out that [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk%3AToon_loading_problems&diff=700156&oldid=700149 What...] is not really a good topic name, either. Please try to think of something that actually describes in some detail the subject you're discussing. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:41, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== "Changey" sig ==
With the text fading from one color to another? {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 00:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:Mmm...hmmm. [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] [[User talk:RickTommy|talk]] [[Image:slang.PNG|50px]] 00:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::Or did you want your sig to be the same color and font as Heimstern's? And if it's two fading colors you want, just tell which two colors and I'll get to work on it. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 00:56, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Little questions ==

Hey RickTommy. When it comes to site maintenance, you don't need to ask questions about every little behind-the-scenes detail. The answer to such questions (as far as you're concerned) is typically "because we need to" and doesn't involve any decisions related to the content of the knowledge base. Cheers. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Userboxes ==

I noticed your userboxes are placed by themselves, it's the reason why they're messed up like that. Do you need help? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 12:29, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

:Yes. Oui. Ja. Hai. Si. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:38, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
::Notice the difference between your current code you use and the below code? If you do not, I can point it out to you. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 12:44, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
::<blockquote><div class="usermessage" style="padding:0px;background:transparent;border:0px;border-bottom:3px solid #0000FF;margin-left:-13px;padding-left:12px">Code:</div><code><nowiki>{{userboxtop}}</nowiki> <nowiki>

{{userbox|border=red|mainbkgd=yellow|codebkg=white|code=NOSTORE|msg=Unfortunately, I do not own anything from the store. And I don't think I'll be able to until I get my own [[credit card]] (which won't be for another year).}}</nowiki> <nowiki>

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=white | code=[[Image:Sbcg4ap105 235x225.png|45px]] | msg= This user got '''Maximum Awesomeness''' in [[8-Bit Is Enough]].}}</nowiki> <nowiki>

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== 2 years ==

Please do not put random links in other peoples' talk posts. It's disruptive and not terribly funny - in addition, we have a rule not to edit other people's posts without a VERY good reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:51, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:Going to revive this topic a bit. Along the same lines, linking within article text to the words "2 years" when the text has nothing to do with that email is illogical and misleading, and honestly, it's not even funny. Don't do it again, please. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:16, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, I won't do it again. Especially since this idea was stolen. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Subtitles ==

Hey RickTommy, you've been doing a lot of subtitles recently which is awesome. But I do wonder about the quality. For example, [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Subtitles:sbemail136/fr&diff=693502&oldid=693495 this] is how a native speaker edited one of your French subtitles. I see that now you've also tried your hands at German and Turkish subtitles. Please have a read of the [[HRWiki:Subtitles#Translating_Subtitles|translation guidelines]]. Right in the first paragraph it says "We ask that only skilled users of a language (native speakers or advanced students with real-life experience using the language) create translations for the wiki." Do you fall into that category?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, reviving this topic to remind you: you should use {{tl|fixtranslation}} on all your French subs so Meuhcoin or another native French speaker can check them. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:49, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::Bump. Please do this. Thank you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:41, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

== Feeding the trolls ==

Hey, RickTommy. When a troll comes along and starts vandalizing, it's best not to panic and {{p|l={{fullurl:User_talk:RickTommy|curid=50327&diff=699957&oldid=699772&rcid=660705}} report}} {{p|l={{fullurl:Talk:Main_Page&curid=710|diff=699956&oldid=699864&rcid=660704}} it}} everywhere. It's ''especially'' not good to provoke them. That is what's called [[Meta:What_is_a_troll%3F#Not_feeding_the_trolls|feeding the trolls]], and only eggs them on. What's best to do is just revert, revert, revert, and wait until either he he's done, or a sysop handles him. Just a little advice, {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:29, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:Warning another user about not feeding the trolls also fuels trolls. Use e-mail next time. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 03:36, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
::I wouldn't say it was unresonable, and it's not like I informed '''during''' the attack. I waited until after. Besides, I don't believe RickTommy has an email address saved in his account, as I see no link to "email this user". {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:46, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:::You're correct; he has not entered an email address, so it would not have been possible to email him. As for vandalism, usually the best course of action is to report it in the [[HRW:IRC|chat channel]]. There's almost always a sysop around or someone who knows where to find one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:51, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Constant questions ==

Okay, I'm not sure how to phrase this, so let's just go with the direct route: You've ''got'' to stop constantly asking irrelevant questions. Here is a handy guide to help you out:
;Why hasn't article ______ been updated?:Because ''you'' haven't fixed it yet. It's a wiki. If an article needs to be updated, don't ask why it hasn't been updated, just update it. If you see a mistake that needs to be fixed, don't ask why it hasn't been fixed, just fix it.
;Why did admin ______ do what he did?:Whatever it was, most likely it was or will be discussed with other admins. The action was either to keep the wiki tidy or to enforce one of our policies. You are not an admin, so unless it's something that ''directly'' affects you (which most things don't), you don't need to concern yourself with it.
;Why hasn't admin ______ done ______ yet?:Because he hasn't gotten to it. Administration of the wikis and forum is not a paid job. We take care of things when we can. Things that are intricate or technical take longer.
;Why did we have server maintenance?:Because it needed to be done. We try to let people know when there will be maintenance as a courtesy, but as long as server interruptions are infrequent and minor, it is not a topic for discussion.
;Why ________________________________?:Sometimes there is no good answer. This is just a wiki about dumb animal characters and you probably shouldn't worry about it.
I hope that helps. If you have a question that begins with ''who, what, when,'' or ''where,'' and it refers to a ''toon,'' then feel free to ask on an appropriate talk page. Otherwise, please refer to the above. Cheers. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, RickTommy. Look at {{p|l={{fullurl:User talk:ColdReactive|diff=700601&oldid=700379}} this post of yours}}. Notice the third sentence there? It's a ''why'' question, one you should not be asking. I realize you were trying to relate to him, but it is not your place to confront other users in this manner, and so it's best if you please leave these kinds of things to the admins. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:37, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::{{p|l={{FULLURL:HRWiki:Subtitles/Data|diff=707348&oldid=672240}} Because ''you'' haven't fixed it yet.}} Sheesh, it's the first answer in the list here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:01, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

== featured article ==

Hey there RickTommy.I have been noticing that you've been suggesting a lot of ideas for [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|the weeks featured article]] a lot.It's good that you're helping out,but could you tone it down a bit.You're clogging up the Recent Changes.Don't worry,I went on an editing spree once, but people just got mad at me, so I stopped, and I recommend you stop too

In conclusion, please disregard any and all negative comments or negative burning you may here or experience,<strike> on Decmeberween</strike> if you edit too much

Stealthily Yours, {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 14:27, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hi, RickTommy. Every week almost as soon as the new FA comes up, you suggest a new one for the week 10 weeks away. Do you realize you're kind of hogging all the suggestions for yourself? You really should sometimes let someone else make the first suggestion. It doesn't have to be you every week. Please leave some chances for others. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
::Hello again, RickTommy. Since you have failed to listen to what I've said, I am changing this from a suggestion to an order. Do not continue making the first suggestion each week as soon as it's ten weeks away. If you do, I will feel free to revert your edits. It's only fair for someone else to have the first turn sometimes. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 12:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

==Account==
Don't want to, don't need to. --[[Special:Contributions/209.148.176.136|209.148.176.136]] 12:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:I don't need an account. I can do everything I need to do without an account. Now stop pestering me. --[[Special:Contributions/209.148.176.136|209.148.176.136]] 01:58, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
::I'm going to have to enforce this, RickTommy. Please don't repeatedly ask anons to get accounts. It's annoying. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I have an account now. Happy? --[[User:Kingdom Stars|Kingdom Stars]] 21:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Request for suppression ==

Please suppress the edit I made to Ar2nF's talk page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'll do it this once, but I really don't want this to become a habit. Please think carefully about what edits you're going to make before you make them so that they won't have to be removed later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Youtube Sub. ==

Thanks for the sub, I hope it's a subway melt-like sub. I love that thing. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:No probalo! {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:24, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

== Featured article templates ==

There is no rule that says that the featured article template has to be created right before the feature goes live. If anything, creating it early is a good thing – it means there's time to write the summary and clean it up, 'cause we're not in a mad rush to get it done in time. So things like {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_for_2010,_week_27&diff=prev&oldid=705053 this}} and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_for_2010,_week_28&diff=prev&oldid=705215 this}} and especially {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc&diff=prev&oldid=705197 this}} are unhelpful and uncalled-for. You're not the wiki's police force, and you don't need to clamp down on people when you think they're breaking the rules. Even more so when those rules don't actually exist. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:34, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Do not police ==

Hello, RickTommy. Your recent note to 24.124.93.11 was inappropriate. There's absolutely nothing wrong with occasionally making an edit only to revert it. It happens. A person makes an edit and then realizes "Oops!" and undoes it. That's nothing to blink an eye at, let alone leave a negatively phrased message to a brand new IP editor over. What you did was rude and uncalled for. Furthermore, you have a habit of doing this kind of thing when trying to enforce policy, as several previous threads here illustrate (including the one right above this one). Since this clearly isn't working for you, please stop policing the wiki. This means don't try to make people follow the rules. If something needs doing, let a sysop know and we'll see what we can do. But you need to not be the one to enforce policy anymore. Thank you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Sig too big ==
Hey RickyTommy, your sig is too big {{sigbox|User:RickTommy/sig}}. Please try to make it fix into the box. Thanks,{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the stuff... on my page... on the wiki[[User:MiKEmalloy|MiKEmalloy, The Cool]]

== I've removed several things ==

Recently you have shown a particular interest in another user. The specificity and persistence of your questions have begun to cross a certain line. As such, I've deleted several things from your talk page, the user's talk page, and your signature. Please do not put them back. I would like to remind you that in general we are all uncomfortable with your [[#Constant questions|constant questions]], and this is a warning that your behavior is beginning to border on disruption. Please stick to editing the main namespaces. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
[[File:Stop hand.png|left|50px]] I see now that you have continued pestering him on another site. This is your last warning. If you continue this inappropriate behavior you will be blocked from editing this wiki. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
{{clear}}
:Umm, he insulted me in his reply. I try to be nice, and this is what I get? An insult from the guy I'm trying to be nice to, and a block warning?! {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 00:05, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
::Yup. For the record, he didn't insult you. It was harsh perhaps, but that's just an indication of how far you've crossed the line. Because of your reply above I think it's pretty clear that it's time to go ahead and serve you with a block for two weeks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== FAS again ==

RickTommy, the main reason we switched to the new format you don't like so much is that in the old format, some people, yourself very much included, tended to try to dominate it instead of collaborating with others. And now you come along and at the last minute just change the queue to whatever you wanted? That's not cool, man. You've got to start listening to what '''others''' want on that page, not just what you want. I've undone your change to the queue. I or someone else should be working on the writeup for the SXSW article soon (I don't plan to delete your writeup, though, because we may be able to use the text later). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:RickyTommy, I have reverted your [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection&diff=prev&oldid=707234 changes to the queue]. You have been asked before not to simply change the queue, and you didn't even give any reason for it. I've also reverted your edit to MHarrington's comment. Do not edit someone else's comment.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::I actually ''did'' give a reason. I said that there didn't seem to be consensus. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:17, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:::No, you said "Also, the new format makes consensus harder" in your edit summary. That didn't seem to be related at all to your edit.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:06, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::::RickTommy, I'm going to be blunt here: cut it out. You're constantly warring with others to get whatever '''you''' proposed featured. That's just plain selfish and is inappropriate. Also, it's a form of policing, and you've been told not to do that. Enough is enough. Do it again and I will block you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:27, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::But articles are being featured without consensus. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 00:38, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Your suggestion doesn't exactly have an overwhelming consensus, either. Either way, what we're trying to drill into your head is that '''you''' are not permitted to enforce policy '''regardless of what's happening'''. Don't do it again. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:58, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Try saying that in German. =P Anyway, before next week's featured article comes up, can we please have consensus? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 10:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::RickTommy, I don't get why you think it's harder to establish consensus. Frankly, I didn't think we had consensus for a featured article for Week 23 of this year. I just specifically remember that one b/c i was surprised to see a featured article being created on such little consensus (although i did have to look and see which week it was; i didn't remember that it was week 23...). anyway, point being maybe it's just hard in the first place no matter which method we use. And this is still in the experimental stages; maybe it will prove easier with time. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 04:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::See, this is why we should not use these things until they are finalised. I really like your point that it is in the experimental stages; it certainly is, given what has been featured this week: a newer short toon, just over [[2 years]] old, with its Wiki article on less than 40,000 page views. (Not to mention that it was most likely featured out of conflict of interest.) [[Where's The Cheat?]] (which has sadly not been featured yet), by comparison, is one of the older (not to mention more important) toons, over 8 years old, with a Wiki article on over 100,000 page views. (I'd also like to point out that earlier this year, we had 50 Strong Bad Emails' articles reach 100,000 page views; should we do something to mark the occasion, even if it is long-belated?) {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:42, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::I don't think most people think it's bad to feature new toons. I certainly don't. I think it's best for us to mix new and old. As for page views, I've noticed you often make points based on these. I really don't think very many people care much about these (I never even read them, myself). I really don't have any idea what you're getting at when you speak of "conflict of interest" at all, especially since the only person trying to put his or her own suggestions in the queue is you. At any rate, my point is that I don't really think your objections here are held by most other users (notice no one but you is complaining about the new format). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:49, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
'''Edit conflict:''' Here's the thing, though: There's a big difference between a good article that our community is proud of (which are the articles we feature) and articles about important 'toons. When we feature an article, we're not featuring the 'toon the article is about, we're featuring the article. Also, certain articles might be popular, but page views and quality are not synonymous. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 06:51, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

== Editing someone else's comment ==

Hi RickyTommy. I noticed that you edited talk page posts by other users. For example [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection&diff=prev&oldid=707234 here] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Perducci&diff=prev&oldid=707236 here]. It's only OK to edit someone else's post if there is a very good reason. In these cases there was no good reason at all. And in both cases you changed the meaning. In one case you changed it significantly. Please don't do it again. Thanks,{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:The reason I edited the post in the first instance is because it didn't make sense the way it was originally written. He said "'''an''' article" instead of "'''the''' article"; this implied that he was referring to more than one article, when he clearly wasn't. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:17, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::"an" can be used singularly too, it's not uncommon to do so. If I give you an article of clothing, it's still just one piece of clothing. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 15:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Let's make this clear: pretty much the only time we ''ever'' edit others' comments is if they violate policy, such as if they have swears. Since you've been told not to enforce policy, you should not ever edit someone's comment. If it violates policy, someone else will handle it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:24, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Heimstern, I find it interesting that you're telling me not to edit others' comments, yet you have gone as far as to [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Reversinator&diff=694916&oldid=694915 do so yourself for being called a name that you don't like]. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 00:38, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::We've had a de facto exemption for fixing names. For example, DC's changed "It's Dot Com", I change "Heimy" etc. Fixing your own name would probably not be a problem for you, but pretty much anything else will definitely fall under policing. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:52, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

== Block warning ==

[[File:Stop hand.png|left|50px]] RickTommy, you have been told repeatedly not to police the wiki and not to edit other users' comments. [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection&diff=707506&oldid=707471 This recent edit] is unacceptable in both regards. I am sorry, but you will be blocked from editing the wiki if you keep this up. Please take a step back, consider others, and contribute without alienating others. Thanks,{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:06, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:But as I said in the edit summary, that comment was uncalled-for. It also does not belong on that page. Also, I technically did not edit that comment. Oh, and there's something wrong. For some reason, I have recently been unable to edit FAS, but I can edit other articles just fine. What is going on? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:09, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::You did edit that comment and not just a little bit. And while it does not belong on that page it was not insulting. There was no reason to edit it, especially after you've been asked not to do it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:52, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

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== Guitar Tabs? ==

Someone posted a guitar tab for [[Trogdor (song)|Trogdor]]. Should we extend this into a semi-project to put guitar tabs on all the songs on [[Strong Bad Sings]] with guitar/bass parts? If so, I call I get to tab [[Moving Very Slowly]]! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think this is a very worthwhile project. But then, I'm not a guitar enthusiast. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::Well, Lapper, we ARE supposed to document Homestar Runner. Why not do guitar tabs? Just don't go crazy and do the SBLOUNSKCHED! theme song. Also, I don't think you can call doing something, Martyo. If you want to do it, just do it. Dibs are for [[Wikipedia:Riding shotgun|cars]] and [http://dibs.dreyers.com/ ice cream], not wikis. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 22:02, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, Bluebry, the only reason I called it is because if we decide to do this (which we haven't yet) a bunch of transcribers are going to want to tab out songs (and some non-transcribers might do some googling to find tabs) and I don't want to miss out on a song I know how to play. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

::::If people want to do tabs, I think it's a great idea! That's good information that a lot of people might be interested in. That said, I tend to think it would be better to keep the tabs on a separate page, in general. I can see some of them getting kind of long, and the average person just trying to read about a given song shouldn't have to scroll through screens of guitar tabs. So, I propose that they be kept on a separate page and linked to. This way, they're easily accessible to the people who want to see them, but unobtrusive to those who don't. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I moved the guitar tab for Trogdor to [[Trogdor (song)/Tablature]] and linked to it in a "See Also" section of [[Trogdor (song)]] Before we move forward, is this what we want to do, or should we do it differently? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:39, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:I agree, having tabs would be awesome. I'd like to play [[different town]], for example. What should the naming scheme be? [[Trogdor (song)/Tablature]] is somewhat ugly. What about [[Trogdor Tablatures]], just like we do for the visuals?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::Or [[Tablature: Trogdor]]. 'S perfect! Also, should we link in a see also? What about in the Detailed information area? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 22:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Having a separate namespace might be a ''little'' extreme, but I kinda like it. I'ma wait and see what others think. As for linkage, Detailed Info seems like a better way to go. That way, people don't have to search the page for a link. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Maybe possibly maybe. Also, should we include download links for things like [http://www.power-tab.net/ Power Tab]? Or will men in black fedoras grab us for copyright violation? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 22:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Power Tab's certainly got MY approval. Most of the tabs I transcribe ARE in Power Tab. I don't see how someone could sue us for linking to their product :P. So, yeah. Power Tab = Awesome. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:55, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::Also, where it says Bass, I think you should actually put the bass tablature on there. I'm sure it'll help newbies and be more professional looking to all. :-) SMILEYS ARE GREAT! {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 23:00, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I was just wonderin, if we will have all these tabs for songs, don't we need a page with a list of all the songs that have been tabed and link to the tabliture? If we do, i will start work on it immediately.--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 23:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::We do. Trey made a category.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh man, i wanted to do it.--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 23:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

== Undo summary ==

The undo function has proved quite popular. There's one aspect of it, however, that I don't really like: the way the username is included in the summary, forever recorded that the user was reverted. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it feels like a vandal rollback, which is kind of a slap in the face. (As a side note, I'm also concerned that the undo function is being used for simple reverts of the last edit; I feel like its primary purpose is to surgically fix something a few lines down in the history.) I'd like to remove the username from the automatic summary, so that a typical undo looked like this: ''(undid revision 000000; reason for the undoing)'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:I agree 100% — I think it's unsettling to see one's name in the automatic part of the summary. Perhaps this is because of the similarity to the automatic summaries from the rollback feature, which is used almost exclusively to revert vandalism. I think the automatic summary for the undo feature should be revised as you propose. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:30, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

::Yes. Better this way. The username in the summary is really off-putting: the effect to me seems rather like pointing a finger at another user and saying "you made this edit I undid". I'm not saying anyone ''meant'' to say this, but I do think that's the effect. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:::Makes sense, although if someone reverts vandalism, it might be good for the ops to be able to see at a glance who to block (yes i know they can check the history) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:I actually don't particularly mind, although Dot com has noted previously that it peeves him to have his name in an edit summary not preceded by "reply to". I, personally, don't mind having my name being shown as the one being reverted, as long as there's a solid edit summary following. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

::I would have thought that the current text is fine. But with people constantly using it to revert the last edit instead of undoing older edits, I wholeheartedly agree with Dot com's suggestion. It will also make edit summaries shorter and easier to read.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:::What if "revision 000000" automagically created a link to the edit (technically speaking, "&diff=prev&oldid=000000"), like this:
::::''(undid {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Da_Basement&diff=prev&oldid=492115 revision 492115}}; forum-style post)''
:::[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

::::Shouldn't we squeeze a timestamp in there? It could be as small as "8.24, 15:26", but I'd like to see when that undone revision was made, if possible. (undid {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Da_Basement&diff=prev&oldid=492115 revision 492115}} (8.24, 15:26); forum-style post). — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::I thought stuff like that is recorded in RC; that is, the "diff" link is a link to the revert, and RC already tracks the time and date of ''all'' edits. I'm in favor of the plain ''(undid revision 000000; vandalism)'' — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:37, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::Lapper: We don't record timestamps of the undone edit ''now'', and we do just fine. There isn't an easy mechanism to add them, either. It could be done, of course, but it would involve reworking more than a line or two of code, which is all it would take to add the link (and clicking on the link will show the old edit, including the timestamp and the editor). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I like Dot Com's idea, that is link with no timestamp. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Me too.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:20, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm in. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:40, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I've implemented the changes. After a little time has passed, please comment on whether you think it's an improvement. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think it's a good idea! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 03:29, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
It's been a week since the new format, and I've got nothing against it. Nice and simple, and it doesn't incriminate the revertee as strongly. Great jorearb. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 18:35, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:I actually disagree. I thought it was a good idea, but now I see that this edit summary is less helpful. It doesn't give any context. When it still included the user name, one could guess which edit was meant just by looking at the history. That number isn't helpful in the least (unless you mouseover the links in the history and compare those 6-digit numbers - which I certainly don't do). I would prefer edit summaries like "undid edit 123456 by Stupid_ol'_Loaf".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
::If you click on the revision number it leads you to the exact edit. And I'd argue that in all edits, it's up to the editor to provide context, not the system. Havin g the system make it easier for an editor to be lazy - is that what we want? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh, it's much better! this is awesome! {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 02:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

== So what exactly is the "trusted user list"? ==

I noticed a few times, it seems that somewhere, this Wiki has a trusted user list, or so I saw while looking around on talk pages. So I was wondering, is it a tangible thing (meaning it actually exists) or is it just in the minds of staff members and such?--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 12:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:There is no list (and there is also no staff). Obviously, some users are trusted more by the community than others, but I don't think anybody would keep a list or something. I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about, but I hope this answers your question.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
::Is [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 8#Limited editability for user pages|this]] what you are referring to? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I caught up with Slipstream in IRC, that's the page he was talking about... it's all been cleared up now, nothing to worry about. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Thanks for drawing extra attention to a dumb idea i had a long time ago... :( {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:10, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::(For those of you who have a hard time reading sarcasm over the internet, that was an example of it.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

== Images accessable from both wikis ==

I contribute a lot to both of our HRWikis (the fanstuff being the other). However, I find it quite difficult that a lot of images that would be useful on the Fanstuff wiki are only hosted on the knowledge base. Someone with server side privelages might be able to make an image uploaded on one wiki accesable by the other. Sorta like Wikimedia Commons, where you upload it there, and it can be accessed by all the wikimedia projects. I would find it very easy. Tell me what you think! {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 02:39, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:I think that's an awesome idea, but I don't have server [[privaleges]]. It' up to like It's dot com or somebody like that. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:43, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::It is technically possible to do this, but relatively speaking there are so few images that are used on both wikis that the costs outweigh the benefits at this time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Exactly. There's literally no need to put forth the effort to make a commons, as HRWiki and HRFWiki really have nothing much in common that way. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:16, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
::::I personally see value in keeping the two distinct, and that value is enjoyed on both sides. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I see the merit in allowing this, but isn't Commons a separate wiki? That means we would have to set ''another'' wiki up, migrate ''all'' the existing images from both the HRWiki and the HRFWiki to it, and force a redirect to said wiki whenever someone tries to upload another image. Sounds like too much of a waste of time, especially considering the amazingly small amount of images that actually have a point in being cross-linked. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 20:45, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::Commons ''is'' in fact a separate wiki. That fact alone means that they could've used the english wikipedia (or in this case the HRWiki) to make the image-copying magic. It is made separate for clarity and to avoid confusion, not necessarily for technical reasons. That said, it ''is'' a lot of work to do for what may not be used all that much. At best some script could be created to extract images from the HRwiki into the fanstuff. But again, that's a bit of work and its implementation would depend on demand/benefit and an available programmer. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::Well, we wouldn't have to put ''all'' images in Commons. 'Kipedia doesn't do that either. But I agree with Dot com and Qermaq: Only very few images would actually be shared between us and the fanstuff, making it not worth the effort. Also, I strongly argue to keep both wikis as separate as possible, content-wise. It will get messy if we don't.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Preserve birthday card(s) as part of the history? ==

Okay guys, [[HRWiki:Da_Basement/Archive_8#Preserve_birthday_card_as_part_of_the_history|we've come to that bridge and crossed it]]. Now it's time to ask the big question: Do we make a page for [[User talk:Invisible Robot Fish/Talk Archive Mike Chapman's Card|Mike's card]]? I don't see why not. I already created a [[:Category:Mike's Birthday Card Images|category]] for the images. This, I think, is useful whether we make a page or not. Anywho, what have ye all to say? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah. I think we should. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 18:34, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
::Cool, I started a [[HRWiki:Mike's 2007 birthday card|not so good article]] covering it (made before the world ended, and submitted after it came back up ;) ). Extra info would be most welcome. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Count increment broken ==

Okay, for some reason the #count+''increment'' and #resetcount [[HRWiki:Counter|parser tags]] don't seem to be working properly. (At least not from my machine -- which I seriously doubt is an issue, since it's all done server side, right?). I first found the problem in the QOW page, and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Stux/sandbox&diff=506429&oldid=506426 have}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Stux/sandbox&diff=506433&oldid=506432 tried}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Stux/sandbox&diff=506435&oldid=506434 different things}} to assess the situation and try to find a workaround. However, I've come to the following conclusions (from my observations):
#The #resetcount tag is not resetting the counts for any value (except maybe to zero)
#The ''increment'' parameter in the #count tag seems to behave in some strange way
#All the count examples in the documentation still seem to work correctly (confusing me more).
As such, I am completely baffled by this behavior. Even all the names match! Maybe It's the spaces? I don't know. This is weird. Help! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:I think it may have been a formatting issue. Does {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&diff=506872&oldid=506371 this change}} fix the issue? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::Stux, I tweaked the hresetcount template so that it properly resets the visible values on vcount, but other than that these templates and the underlying parser functions seem to be functioning in general as they should. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Ahhh... yeah! Go figure. Leave it to me to create a template, add a feature, and months later, forget all about it that it exists! So yeah, the parser code and templates were working all exactly how they were designed to work :S. It's just my methods of "debugging" were waaay off. Hehe. Ahh programming. Thanks Tom for figuring out what was really wrong with QOW! I can't believe little spaces caused so much trouble. ''Ahh, programming.'' Thanks Dot com for fixing ''hresetcount'' and adding the appropriate documentation to ''vcount''. I will be adding that info to ''hcount'' just in case I forget again. ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, I think it would be better to differentiate vcount from hcount, and not list unused features on hcount. Toward that end, I've listed both templates on hresetcount (and we should consider creating and differentiating vresetcount). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I agree, and creating vresetcount sounds like a good idea. Though doing so would mean having to check all instances where hresetcount is called and see if vresetcount needs to be called. But that shouldn't be too much trouble. For now, I added the technical info back up. I think it's important in the h/vcount pages themselves to clearly state that the two templates work separately (more so with vresetcount). (This, of course, being a bad attempt at reminding ''me'' that their separate functions. ;) ) Ok! now to watch some [[TrogdorCon '97|anime]]! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:11, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== RandomArea ==

I'm starting my own wiki, and when browing extensions, I found Random Area. RandomArea is like the {{tl|homsarquote}}, only it updates the maximum number of quotes by itself. I feel it would be a lot easier for new members to add quotes. [[mw:Extension:RandomArea|Click here for info]]. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 04:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
:One of the features of the homsarquotes template is that it only chooses from all the quotes if it's used on the [[Homsar]] page; otherwise, it skips the first two. We could easily make the template use less code, but we set it up that way so that both the rendered list itself and the output of the template would look nice. I appreciate the suggestion, but I think we've got enough eyeballs on that page not to worry about installing anything else. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
::I understood that when I looked at the template, I knew it before suggesting it. Why does it need to skip the first two? {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 16:21, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Because the first 2 aren't quotes, they're just captions. That template was originally made (and is still used) to prevent edit warring on the [[Homsar]] caption. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

== Deleted page talk pages ==

So the recent incident with the clapping page got me thinking that maybe we should leave talk pages from deleted pages intact so that future people can see why a page was deleted. It's not always so obvious, i mean granted, a page like "homestar is stupid and dumb" that would be tagged for speedy deletion would not need such a thing even if it somehow developed one, but for pages that actually get discussed i think it would be helpful. (Maybe also have a template for such pages?) Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:51, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:Agree. It'd be very useful to see the precedents and reasonings and things behind why pages were deleted. Wikipedia keeps their discussion pages, and this is one thing of theirs I think we SHOULD emulate.
:I also like the sound of that template. Something like "This is the talk page of a deleted article. Please do not participate in the existing discussions. If you have something new to say on why this page should be re-created, please start a new section below." Or something with good words. Better words than I can write. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think preserving deletion discussions is a good idea. I kind of wonder why we haven't been already. I also think Dorian's words were fine. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I support this idea for the sake of preserving discussions. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::::I like this idea. Here are some possible ideas I came up with for text:
::::*This talk page is an archive of a deleted article. Please do not contribute.
::::*This article this talk page accompanies has been deleted. This talk page has been kept for historical reasons. Please do not contribute.
::::*This talk page is kept for historical reasons, as it once accompanied a page that has been deleted. Please do not contribute.
::::*This is a talk page of a deleted article. Please do not add to the discussions below.

::::Of course, the endings saying not to contribute can apply to all of them. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 23:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::I think it is important, though to include a bit like DorianGray's line, "If you have something new to say on why this page should be re-created, please start a new section below." A running gag, for example, may not have enough appearances, but could suddenly acquire more later on, at which point the talk page would be a good place to propose that the article be recreated. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

::::::Here's a model of what it could look like: {{tl|deletedtalk}}. It could perhaps use some improvement. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:02, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::It looks alright... we might want to edit the style a bit, but the wording seems fine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I like it, too. I changed the wording [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:deletedtalk&diff=516770&oldid=515578 a little]. Maybe we should change the image to something like [[:Image:deleted.PNG|this]]? We also need to find a way to easily distinguish between archived section and currently open threads. But yes, we should definitely use this template.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

=== Reviving? ===
Okay, since this looks like a promising idea, i also have a question about old talk pages. If we decide that this is a good idea, do we (and by WE i mean some sysop) go back and revive all the old talk pages, or is this only for the future? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:06, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:On second thought, a bot could be made to do such a thing. Still, would we? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:07, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::How would a bot know the difference between a talk page where a deletion discussion occurred and one where it didn't? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::first of all, if there IS a talk page, then it probably means it was discussed, as speedy deletion pages get deleted quickly and don't usually end up with talk, secondly, it could search for "<nowiki>'''delete'''</nowiki>", as there tends to be at least one instance of that on every deletion discussion. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::::There are probably a lot more deleted talk pages with no discussion than you think. Consider all the talk pages that were page-move vandalism redirects from the Willy on Wheels days. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::That's why i also suggested searching for bolded delete. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I don't think it's necessary for anyone (or a bot) to bother undeleting ''all'' such pages, since we've gotten along without them fine up to now. If there is an individual case where restoring an old discussion would be relevant, then we can do so as the case presents itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:44, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Another idea would be to write a script that searches the deleted pages' history (preferably in all namespaces) and finds any use of the {{tl|tbd}} template and creates a list of pages that were very likely part of the normal deletion process. This would elminate 99%+ of all the unwanted vandalism-created pages. The list can then be eyeballed for obvious undesirables, and auto-revived. The rest of the interested community can then re-tag those pages (and mark any that should be re-deleted). How hard would implementing this sound? What kind of interest would be in this idea? What do you guys think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::All of that is technically possible, but I think our focus is elsewhere right now. I maintain that restoring pages on an as-needed basis is the most practical way to go. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I think we need to make a template to put on all talk pages that have the accompanying article deleted. That way we have a way to find them, through a category. I don't like seeing my orphan talk pages be all willy-nilly! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:33, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:Erm... you mean {{tl|deletedtalk}} and its accompanying [[:Category:Talk pages of deleted articles|category]]? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::Presactly. I haven't edited for a week and I got really lazy. Didn't even notice it's in the section above this. I'm slipping... —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Tsk, tsk. I had to reread your post twice because I thought ''*I*'' was making some mistake in reading it. What happened to your good ol' sharp self? Though if it wasn't for your post, it wouldn't have occurred to me to go back and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:toga_yoga&diff=prev&oldid=515324 tag}} toga yoga as deleted after ''someone'' who shall remain nameless *Cough*Dot Com*Cough* missed adding it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Hmm? I didn't know we'd decided to go with that template. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Oh, my apologoies! From looking at the template use and this discussion I simply ''assumed'' that it had become official. That's what I get for trying to be somewhat "funny". Sorry Dot com. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::I assumed so, too. I only just noticed that the discussion for the template is actually in the section above...{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Should the deletion policy page be updated? We tend to discourage deletion of talk pages nowadays (at least ones where discussion happened), but the guideline page doesn't make that very clear. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.223|132.183.151.223]] 22:44, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

== Birthday cards for TBC ''et al.'' ==

For reference, I've copied the following conversation from [[User talk:Invisible Robot Fish]]:
<blockquote>
Hey IRF,

How 'bout we make a card for Missy when her birthday rolls around? I can imagine she's feeling pretty left out right now. Besides, she's just as important as the Brothers Chaps. If you already have one in the works, lemme know. If you don't, talk to me, and I'd be happy to help you organize it and get it together.

Sincerely, 
{{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}} 23:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:I have noticed that she hasn't got a card yet. I agree. Let's make a card for Missy! {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 23:31, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

::I'm glad to see that there are others that want to do this. I want to mention 3 things: #1) I am about to go a 2 week vacation and will be out of contact for awhile (for Missy we have some time). #2) Matt's birthday is coming up much sooner that Missy's. #3) I have had the honor and privilidge of doing this twice now. I don't think it would be fair for me to hog this. Out of this experience I have had the opportunity to talk [[Karen Wagner]] a few times, which was awesome. I must also talk about access. I am not a sysop so the fact that I was trusted with the address to send things to the TBC is very rare. I think the less people that know such information, the bigger blessing that we can be as awhole to TBC. The LAST thing that we want is for sensitive information to be given to the wrong person (and I'm not imply that any of you are the wrong person) and TBC get tons of <s>fan-mail</s> crap in the mail. For these reasons, I think it best for a sysop or duly chosen user by the sysops to take the helm on this. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, Matt already got a card, but Missy hasn't; I say we put her as the top priority for the moment. I see your point with the Brothers Chaps' mailing address. Not everyone could/can be trusted with valuable info like that. If that info was put in the wrong hands or was somehow leaked, TBC would be flooded with mail, and you, me, Sam, and anyone else involved would take the fall, maybe the whole Wiki, even. Maybe{{User:Loafing/sig}} could be trusted with that. After all, he is a sysop.{{User:Homestarmy_Commando1/sig}}19:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Loafing lives in New Zealand. It wouldn't be practical to ship something from there. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 10:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well, let's get a sysop in the States to spearhead that. I really want to help with Missy's card, so I'll feel useful and get some recognition out of it. Do you have any ideas? {{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}}
::::::I suggest that you ask a sysop {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:09, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::HC1: As I said on my page, if you're looking for something to do there are a lot of projects (see [[HRWiki:The Stick]]) that are more practical than this. (Do we even know her birthday?) Furthermore, anything being sent on behalf of the wiki would have to go through an administrator (Joey, Tom, or me), not just a sysop. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:18, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
</blockquote>

So far, we have sent Matt and Mike physical birthday cards, and Invisible Robot Fish did an incredible job putting both of these together.

As seen above, there's some interest in continuing do something for Matt's, Mike's, and perhaps others', birthdays. I think there are a few questions we should discuss in this vein:
#Whose birthdays should we honor as a wiki?
#What should we do in the future when we want to send birthday wishes?
#Who should take charge of these projects?

<nowiki>#1</nowiki> is clearly constrained by our knowledge of when people's birthdays are. As far as I can tell, we know when Matt's and Mike's birthdays are, but that's it. And I think that's a good place to stop. Yes, Missy does the voice of Marzipan, but there are others who do just as much or more for Homestar Runner (Karen Wagner, Ryan Sterritt, etc.) — we have to draw the line somewhere, and I think stopping at Matt and Mike is a good point (especially since we don't know anyone else's birthday!).

In regard to #2, I don't think we should do the same thing if we decide to do something for Matt or Mike's birthdays again. If we keep sending them giant birthday cards, I think the idea will get stale pretty quickly. Maybe we want to do something else in the future, but I think we should think of a different idea.

Finally, with respect to #3, IRF put a great deal of work into the past birthday cards. As he has indicated above, he'd like somebody else to take the helm of future projects, and I agree that it would be very unfair for us to expect him to put in the huge amount of work necessary to send out one of these again. Also, as IRF and It's dot com mentioned in the above quoted text, any communication sent by the wiki as a whole ought to go through the bureaucrats — Joey, Dot com, or Tom — for obvious reasons we should limit the spread of TBC's contact information as much as possible.

Any thoughts about any of these points? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

:I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said above. I'm sorry for getting this whole stupid snowball rolling in the first place. I was feeling a little egoistic at the time of the first post. I guess I just needed someone to talk some sense into me. This does seem a little big for a meager user like me. Let's just go back to the way it was before my idea. Anyone else agree? {{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}}

::Oh, I hope you don't take any of the above comments as directed against you. I thought you brought up a good suggestion — one worth discussing :) You're a good user and have nothing to apologize for :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Thanks, Trey. That made me feel better. I just thought you were backing up It's dot com and making me feel worse. But you do bring up some good points above. {{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}}
::::It was not my intention to make you feel bad, simply to point out that there are things we need done more than this, and, like Trey, question whether we wanted to continue doing this at all. It's also my responsibility to make sure anyone who wants to send anything to TBC ''on behalf of the wiki'' knows they have to go through us. I know I come across as a killjoy, but whattayagonnado. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::Coup d'état? But seriously, I think it's best we only send happy birthday wishes to TBC. Don't want to go down the same slope Google did when they started doing logos for holidays no one's ever heard of. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I've seen {{p|l=http://www.google.com/holidaylogos.html those}}. But also, I think TBC were happy when they got their own birthday poster. It may make them feel not as special (I don't have a better word) if we sent a poster card to every member of their family. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:29, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Would some sort of mass "Thank you" card directed specifically at the supporting staff (by name) be too tacky? Something that says "hey we really, ''really'', '''''really''''' appreciate all the work that you do to support TBC." Or something along those lines. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Specifically considering the creative and performance impact Missy has on the product, I would be in favor of including her in the birthday wishes in the event she chooses to disclose her birthday to the media or to us. Short of that, she is clearly wishing that date to remain a secret, and we have no plce infringing on that. Other than individuals actively invilved in creating the toons (Mike Matt and Missy, essentially) no others should be included as a matter of course. A 30th or 40th birthday, when known, might prove the exception. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:That is a very good point. Celebrating Missy's birthday would be cool! At best, since we don't know it, we could celebrate her ''un''birthday! We'd have a 364 in 365 chance of getting it right this year, and 365 in 366 chance of getting it right <s>this</s> next year! Not a terribly great idea but seems fun. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
::Eeee. When a woman does not disclose her birthday, that means we should not acknowledge it. It would not be an appreciated move to force a birthday on her without her consent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:52, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

== Halloween theme ==

Is there a CSS file for the halloween skin? I really like it, and was considering using it for MySkin. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
:No, if you go to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=history Common.css's history], you will see that is was manually modified. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
::DorianGray likes to celebrate Halloween all year 'round. If you copy his [[User:DorianGray/monobook.css|monobook.css]] page into [[Special:Mypage/monobook.css|your own]], you can too! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:41, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

== What HRWiki is not ==

More of a question than a suggestion, but do we have any policies or pages on [[Wikipedia:WP:NOT|what HRWiki is not?]] There seems to be a volume of new users who register thinking this is some kind of social network rather than a collaborative encyclopedia. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 00:06, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:[[HRWiki:User space#What should I avoid?]] touches on the subject. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::But that does not cover it. I think there should be one. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:::That section in the userspace rules does address my main concern, that users don't know HRWiki isn't a social network, but I think we should make sure newbies know more about what they're getting into, or more accurately, what they're ''not'' getting into. I doubt users planning on registering know about userspace until ''after'' they create the account, then they think "Oh, I can have my own page?" and begin to treat it like some Homestar-themed Myspace. (That was what I thought when I was young and stupid, anyway.) We should make it more clear that that isn't what we are, and if we do create a new page for this it should encompass other misconceptions (I think that's the right word) as well: we aren't a paper encyclopedia, so growth of our project is virtually unlimited; we aren't adspace, while it's fine to promote one's own website, one must do so only within his or her own userspace; we aren't a soapbox, while it is occasionally necessary to give long speeches on a subject, it must remain relevant to our project of focus and we don't allow opinionated speeches on current events or politics or attitudes of self-promotion; and, of course, we aren't any of a number of [[Wikipedia:WP:BEANS|terrible ideas]]. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 13:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::::I know that this idea has been tossed around for several years, but for some reason we've never decided to act on it. Why don't you write something up, and we'll see where it goes from there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::You mean this has been suggested before? If so, I'd like a link; I think I should see how that discussion turned out before I start drafting. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I don't know if it's ever been suggested on the wiki itself, but I know it's been talked about before (I can find it in my chat logs at least as far back as 28 January 2006). I'd go ahead with a draft. If you don't want to spend a lot of time on it, it could be a very rough draft, just enough for us to get the general idea and determine if we want to keep going. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I didn't plan to make it lengthy yet, I'm just going to sort of list as many main ideas as I can think of and write brief descriptions of each. I'll put the draft on [[User:SamFisher1022/HRW:NOT]]. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 21:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
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[[User:SamFisher1022/HRW:NOT|The draft]] is done. Or it's at least been dormant long enough. I'm ready to hear what you all think. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 17:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:Made some changes and left a comment on the talk page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
All right, the discussions are finished. Any other issues before I create the page? — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

== Upload help ==

Uploading images is becoming a common question among new users, and to my knowledge, we don't have a Help page for uploads. Somewhere on that page (somewhere obvious, like at the top), we should state exactly what "autoconfirmed" accounts refer to: accounts that have been active for a certain amount of time. Also, more of us need to know what that certain amount of time is. I was told it was 48 hours, but [[User:TheGirl|TheGirl]] successfully uploaded her first image after about 38 hours. Does it vary with server load or something? — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

:Honestly, I don't think we need an page to help with uploads; the upload page itself has plenty of information on how to do it. And as for auto-confirmation, only a note would be necessary. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, maybe a whole page is too extreme, but still, how long does autoconfirm take? If we add that to the [[HRWiki:FAQ#How do I upload an image?|FAQ]], it should help tremendously. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:05, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Most likely 27 hours, if Dot com didn't change it. Just like I said on TheGirl's talk page. w00t. You can add a mention to FAQ about having to be autoconfirmed to upload an image, but we decided that the exact length of time should be an open secret. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::::It's 28 hours. That number [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 8#Semi-protection implemented|hasn't changed]], either. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:01, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Subtitles viewer on sidebar ==

As most people know, on all toons, there is a link in the sidebar for the Subtitles namespace. However, someone like me, who uses Safari and can't use Greasemonkey, uses the subtitles viewer. If we put a link to the subtitles viewer there too, below the namespace links, that would add to convience. I know it is possible, I've done something similar on my wiki. What do you think? {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 21:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== New Template Categories ==

Thanks to the recent wiki software update, we now have the [[Special:Uncategorizedtemplates]] page. Our goal should be to keep this list as small as possible, and while some of the templates listed can be added to existing categories, some just don't fit into any. So I suggest new categories to hold these "miscellaneous" pages. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 02:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

=== HRWiki Finances ===
:''From [[Template talk:SitenoticeDonationsLine]]
<blockquote>
I want to categorize this page to help clear the [[Special:Uncategorizedtemplates|Uncategorized Templates]] list, but I can't seem to find a category to fit it in. If this does fit somewhere, I'd really appreciate if someone could add the cat to the page; if not, perhaps we should have a category that includes HRWiki's money-related pages: [[HRWiki:Donations]], [[HRWiki:Ledger]], and this. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 02:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)</blockquote>

=== Transcript Templates ===
To keep with the [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once and only Once]] policy, the transcripts for [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] and [[Crazy Cartoon]] are written on template pages and added to their respective pages. I think we should have a category for transcript templates to house these and any more if we make more in the future. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 02:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
:Sounds good to me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:53, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
::I second! er... third? one-hundred-seventy-three-thousand-three-hundred-twenty-fifth? something... i agree also. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

=== STUFF Templates ===
The [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] system has a lot of templates. Instead of categorizing them all as Notice or Formatting templates, I think it would be better to keep them all together in one category (though it may not hurt to add them to more than one category). — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

== HRWiki:Bulletin Board ==

{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} came up with an idea that we could have a page called HRWiki:Bulletin Board that would function as a site-wide message board for to-do items, projects, and other stuff. I, personally, think that this is a great idea. Discuss. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:Um, just so you know, there already exists a [[HRWiki:Projects|projects]] page that kinda does what you described. Unless the idea envisioned is radically different from this page, you should check it out. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
::It's not radically different, but we do know about that. Techgeek should feel free to chime in here. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 18:23, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, what you described was basically exactly what [[HRWiki:Projects]] is. I'm agreeing with Stux completely. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 19:24, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

== Question ==

Yeah, I don't know if this is the place to ask questions like this, though I guess it will serve to help me find out, but anyway, is there an automatic way to get the little gray text that says the section you're editing in the edit summary? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 21:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:Clicking the [edit] next to the subject will automatically do it, but you can hack it in by adding <code>/* Your Text Here */</code> to your edit summary. The [[HRWiki:FAQ|FAQ]] would've been a better place to ask, by the way. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Vandalism Counters: More trouble than they're worth? ==

I've noticed quite a few times that someone vandalized a page that normally the would not have done, except to change the vandalism counter, essentially "killing two birds with one stone". (there was one that i noticed that actually had that as the summary, i wish i could find it.) Here are a couple of examples: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Sysrq868&diff=523895&oldid=515622&rcid=480603] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:BazookaJoe&diff=prev&oldid=482310] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:BazookaJoe&diff=prev&oldid=152598] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

:I understand that people've had these for a while, and a lot of great users have 'em, but I've thought for a while that they're unhelpful. Maybe it's 'cause I don't understand what they're for — why is it important to advertise how much your user page has or hasn't been vandalized? The only time I really notice them is when people come along and vandalize the page by increasing the counter, and then I'm never sure if I should actually revert them! ;)

:This said, I'm not sure that we need a rule prohibiting them (the last thing we need is another rule and to have to go around informing everyone that has one that it must be removed), but I would personally prefer if people didn't have them. On the other hand, the edits you've mentioned happen pretty rarely (once every couple months or so), and since users editing other users' pages are easy to spot, they're easy to revert. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

::I agree with Trey56. We should not have a rule prohibiting them (really, what do you care?), but rather... discourage them. Only reason I have one is because it's pretty much the only interesting part in my userpage.

::As for these curious edits, if the vandal edits the counter appropriately (adding one), then it shouldn't be reverted, but a warning at the talk page would be in place. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 14:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I've also always wondered about whether to revert them, and when i do, the next edit is usually the owner of the userpage in question reverting me... Oh well... Anyway, i wasn't suggesting a hardcore RULE against them, just bringing up that people might want to reconsider having them, that's all. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:53, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think it's in the interest of the wiki to have users maintain what amount to vandalism scoreboards on their user page. It seems clear there won't be concensus to have any policy changes regarding them, but I'm thinking they actually promote vandalization. And the only purpose in telling people this on userpage that I can think of is to say "I'm cool enough to have been vandalized a lot" which we don't need to be doing. Unless someone knows a different reason, to which I am all ears. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:38, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I agree that vandalism counters only encourage vandalism. They also imply that it is some kind of honour to have one's user page vandalized. Since when do we believe that vandals have any kind of good judgment? I'm not sure they should be prohibited outright, but they should definitely be discouraged.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::I'm with Loafing. It's obvious that vandalism counters don't serve any purpose, and though the users that have them may not treat them like trophies, that's what they do look like. I don't know if we could ''completely'' prohibit them, but that's what we should aim for. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sorting [[:Category:Articles for Discussion|Articles for Discussion]] by time since flagged ==

I often get the feeling that articles end up sitting in this category for a substantial amount of time. I think we can benefit from being able to see how long an article has been under deliberation at a glance. So I'd like to propose a small change to {{tl|tobediscussed}}:

<code>[[Category:Articles for Discussion|{{A ParserFunction to calculate today's week minus the week it was added}}]]</code>

If not, perhaps it could be added to the template inline. It's just a proposal, after all. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

:<code>[[Category:Articles for Discussion|{{A ParserFunction to calculate today's week minus the week it was added}} {{PAGENAME}}]]</code> is better, so we have the name there also. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::If I understand the functioning of mediawiki correctly, the parser function only gets evaluated when the page is rendered: that is after an edit or a purge. That means that stale pages (those that weren't edited since the tag was added) will be stale (showing that the tag was added the same week). Moreover, all that would provide would be a number from 0-9 (or a letter from a-z or A-Z), which is why WP has specific categories for each month when tags were added. (At least it does for cleanup and source tags, not sure about delete). This wiki is so small, dated categories wouldn't be very helpful I think. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sig Box ==

Ok, our sig mantra is "it must fit in the box". However, innumerable examples exist where a sig will be in the box on one computer and not on another. The reason is the box is sized in pixels, while text is generally (optimally) sized in ems. The two measurements do not relate to each other in any regular way. Plus, replaced fonts and other crazy stuff browsers do really introduce surprises into the mix. So it's impossible to guarantee that any sig will or will not fit in a pixel box, unless that sig is entirely sized in pixels, which is sub-optimal for web authoring.

So, the question before you all is simply this: do we need to rethink how we conmtrol sig size? And if not, how do we determine when a sig is OK, even when it is oversized on some systems? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

:I read "Your total signature size can only be one line, and limited to around 20 or 25 characters." on {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Signature&oldid=446393 HRWiki:Signature}}. The box is just a very helpful tool (the page says "in other words" when it introduces the box), it's not meant to be the primary essence of the rule as the rule is designed not to be terribly exact. See {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:Signature&oldid=506829#Length_is_uncontrollable our last discussion of this}}, especially Dot com's last comment which I believe is a very appropriate response. In that regard, are there instances where this is an active problem? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think it bears repeating here:<blockquote>We are not concerned with the fact that, if you really try, you can configure your system to make all signatures violate the policy. What we ''are'' concerned with is how a signature renders on the majority of browsers that are used to visit the wiki under ''normal'' conditions. The pixel definition is a useful tool to help us make a call, and it works well under most circumstances. Any time when it wouldn't work would be so infrequent as to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)</blockquote>[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::Wow, that's a trip down memory lane. The text on the page reads "Your total signature size can only be one line, and limited to around 20 or 25 characters. In other words, it must fit inside this box." There's no saying one is more important than the other. It's implied that the two are equivalent, when they simply are not. Dot Com's comments are decidedly vague, actually, and essentially say "we have no strict solution, and will make a call if there's a problem". I'm wondering if there's a way to avoid the ambiguity and use a rule that will apply more universally.

::As far as a current issue, I was clearly moved to comment by [[User talk:Kermit1234/sig#Your sig|this discussion]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:::If a sig is out by a pixel or even a letter, then it's not that big a deal. We've had the current standard for a while, and it does what it's supposed to do: keep signatures at a manageable length. If a consensus of people think a sig is unreasonably long based how the standard is displayed on their computers, then we say something. (Aftr all, the standard is for people who have to view others' signatures, not their own.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:23, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::::(after conflict) Regarding that specific situation: If that user is using a font that doesn't appear on most users' systems (and makes his sig that much longer because of it), then we're justified in continuing to say something. The key is, what do most people see when they see his sig? Is there anything (changing fonts, removing images) that can be done to bring the signature to conform to our standard on a majority of users' systems? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:28, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

== End of the Year Update ==

Hello guys, another year as come and gone (too fast...) and it's time for another update! I'm guessing all of our stuff is gone, and I know this is done very infrequently, however I went ahead and made a [[User:Stux/Yearly Turnover|checklist]] for this rare event for future generations to enjoy and take advantage of.

However, I would like to point out that {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=H%2AR.com_updates&redirect=no H*R.com updates}} has not been updated because it is protected. I updated the talk page (even if the redirect target does not ''yet'' exist). I am writing this for two reasons:
#obviously the redirect needs to be updated
#is there a need for the page to be protected? Any previous threats of vandalism have waned and I know it's generally the wiki's policy to protected unless absolutely necessary, and I currently see no such need.
Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:We should move that checklist somewhere into the project space. The updates page (now a redirect) was [[HRWiki:Protection Log|protected]] because way back in the day it was a target of unwanted edits and vandalism. That reason has ceased to be relevant, so I've unprotected it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::Before I move the page into the project namespace, I'm wondering: would a page listing all the checklists be of any use? That is, it would list the [[Talk:Quote of the Week]], [[Talk:Strong Bad Email]], etc. checklists (can't think of others that need to be done). I'm not entirely sure as to the benefit, but it's good to have all checklists have some visibility and ease of access (from anywhere on the wiki). Alternatively, links to the checklists could be added to a '''See Also''' section. I ask because this would determine the page's name. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Category? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Great idea Qermaq! I've created the [[:Category:Checklists|category]] and moved the page to its new [[HRWiki:Annual Checklist|home]]. I'll be making shortcuts, soon! Mmmm shortcake... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

== [[Weekly Fanstuff]] and [[Sketchbook]] linking ==

Hi guys, after {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Annual_Checklist&diff=534194&oldid=534012 adding}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Annual_Checklist&diff=534195&oldid=534194 notes}} to the [[HRW:AC|Annual Checklist]] based on {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Suudsu&curid=14302&diff=534127&oldid=514203 some}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=alternate_universe&curid=22046&diff=534095&oldid=531458 edits}} [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]] had to make, I realized there must be a better way to do this. Since [[Weekly Fanstuff 2008]] and [[Sketchbook 2008]] already exist and now redirect to their current counterparts (which should from now one with the checklist in place), and since we have anchor redirects, I think the best course of action would be that any new Weekly Fanstuff and Sketchbook links be constructed as <code><nowiki>[[Weekly Fanstuff 2008#</nowiki>''anchor name here'']]</code>
instead of <code><nowiki>[[Weekly Fanstuff#</nowiki>''anchor name here'']]</code> (and similarly for the Sketchbook). This would save us the trouble of having to scour for these links at the end of the year, yet they'd still work correctly this year. If we decide to follow this idea, how to we make this note prominent so that editors are aware of them when making such links? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:49, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Occasionally, I ''do'' make such links when adding or fixing an anchor, or other similar edits. You make a good point, yes. This should probably be done. Nothing wrong with a little future-proofing. Or redirects, for that matter. That's why we have them. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:45, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
::I've {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=H*R.com_updates_2008&diff=535021&oldid=535019 switched}} the links in that page as discussed above. Following [[HRWiki_talk:Standards#.28Don.27t_Fear.29_The_Redirect|this section]] I'm guessing we think it's desirable. Comments? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Maybe it's trivial, but I think from [[Weekly Fanstuff|WF]] and [[Sketchbook|SK]], the "What Links Here" list is a mess and these are the types of changes that would clean it up. It's a slow day at the wiki, so I think I'm going to get busy on it. (Was going to see the new Indiana Jones movie, but there was a long line, so I gave up and now need something to do.) {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Our formatting of the pages has been quite inconsistent over the years, so I created a couple of formatting templates and added them to all the pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:59, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

== Two more for the history books ==

Hey guys, I just ran into these two pages: [[HRWiki:Block log]] and [[HRWiki:Upload log]] which like [[HRWiki:Protection log]] and [[HRWiki:Deletion log]] should belong in [[:Category:HRWiki History]], but currently do not. They are all protected so I bring these up here. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:41, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== Checklist Sign up Sheet ==

While the [[Talk:Quote of the Week|Weeklies Checklist]] has been kept up beautifully. Other checklists like [[Talk:Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Email]], which has become quite complex, (and [[Talk:Podstar Runner|Podstar Runner]] is new) seem to be falling into some level of disregard. The most visible and common tasks have been taken care of, but the more tedious ones (like updating {{tl|StrongBadEmailInfo}}) may not be taken care of right away. To that end I would like to propose a Weekly Checklist Sign up Sheet whose purpose is ''solely'' to track whether or not one or more users ''verified'' that each item in the checklist (except for [[Strong Bad Email Statistics]]) was updated. This doesn't mean that the user has to update the list. The signature only means that all the items have been "checked off". This would ensure that at least one pair of eyes went methodically through the list making sure no stone was left unturned. Currently, we have no way of knowing if a person actually went through the checklist, or was just trying to remember some steps from memory. I know some people may think is might be too much, but given how complex some of these lists can be, it is soon becoming a necessity. I welcome your opinions. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
:I have something in the works to help with the Strong Bad Email checklist. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:08, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

== Cleanup Committee ==

I have an idea. You probably guessed it from the heading, but I'm starting to feel the need for a committee dedicated to cleaning up the wiki. The various cleanup projects, namely [[HRWiki:Article Cleanup]], which deals with featured articles, have fallen into relative obscurity or the hands of only a few users. The cleanup committee would be similar in concept to the validation committee, but would focus on spelling, grammatical errors, and correct page format. It would also strive to boost the level of clarity and compellingness of our articles. It would also be more organized and hopefully encourage more users to participate in making our fair HRWiki a better and more fun place to be. Does this sound like a good concept at least? -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 22:13, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
:I think that it is the responsibility of every active user to cleanup the wiki, therefore having such a committee would be like having a userbox saying "this user edits hrwiki"... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
::Please don't shoot me down right away. I know every user is supposed to cleanup the wiki, but the majority don't really pay attention to articles that aren't the newest sbemail or character or what-have-you. What I'm suggesting is a much larger version of Article Cleanup, one that spanned the whole wiki and concentrated on spiffing up what we already have to make it even better. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 23:28, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

== User space edits ==

Since most userspace edits are nothing more than updating personal info or adding userboxes, is it possible to make a setting that gives users the option to not see them in recent changes? Just a thought. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:Since the first thing anyone else would say (I know I would) would be "What'd stop vandals from using that option while vandalising other people's user pages?", let me postulate this: Supposing the option only appeared for the user whose page was being edited? This is at least theoretically possible, I'm sure. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 00:54, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::BUT WUT IF THEY SAY NASTY THINGS ABOUT YOU AND YOU TOTALLY MISS THEMS? No, but seriously, what would stop those same users from posting inappropriate material on their own userpage? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:56, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I think that the original request was for the user ''looking at Recent Changes'' to not see the edits to User-space.... '''not''' for the user ''making the edits'' to opt-out of their edits showing up there. That said, one can choose "User" from the dropdown, hit the invert checkbox, and bookmark that page. (Or, even change the "Recent Changes" link to it with a custom user javascript). {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 01:07, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Update main page ==

A while back, someone suggested we update the main page to include links to the multi-lingual welcome pages, but the idea, although it did get a lot of noise made about it, ultimately failed. Since we have had the same style of main page for [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=prev&oldid=86533 three and half years now], does anyone else think it might be a good idea to redesign the main page just for the sake of having a new main page? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:06, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
:Um, anyone home? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::I have said many times that I think this is a good idea, and have even designed several test pages. Right now, however, I've just got too much on my plate to do anything about it. Feel free to try your hand at it, though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== 3RR Violation ==

See [[Math Kickers]] edit history.
:Yeah, we don't really have 3RR here. Besides, it's been three reverts, not the four that would be required for a 3RR vio at Wikipedia. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:44, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

== "Fatal Error" ==

Trying to see a previous vandal edit to Coach Z's article, I'm getting this:
<pre>
**He has occasionally [[Blubb-O's Commercial|attempted to be sent to prison]], since he would be guaranteed "three square meals a day".
**He has occasionally [[Blubb-O's Commercial|attempted to be sent to prison]], since he would be guaranteed "three square meals a day".
**He [[secret recipes|can't afford "money cost]]" ice cream.
**He [[secret recipes|can't afford "money cost]]" ice cream.

Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 35 bytes) in /home/hrwiki/public_html/includes/DifferenceEngine.php(1211) : assert code on line 1
</pre>

I don't exactly get the message, but I think it's trying to ask one of the Administrators to do something ("assert code on line 1"?). I also see the comment "<nowiki></nowiki>" in the code source. --[[Special:Contributions/71.157.173.166|71.157.173.166]] 03:09, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
:It was a vandalized state of the page that was fixed shortly after. I don't actually know what's in there, but something in the code broke the page good. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:14, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
::It was just some dumb ASCII art. Nothing to worry about. I took out the link. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== Idea for Page ==
I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but I had no idea where else to go. 
(Maybe this is something that needs to be stated a little clearer?) 
I think there ought to be a page about 'Phonebooks' on the HRwiki because of its many mentions: 
Eg. in the sbemails 'your funeral' and 'the movies'

I would have made it myself, but I was afraid of messing it up and infuriating fellow users. 
Anyone down with the idea?
--[[User:Lustmyeyes|lustmyeyes <3]] 05:17, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:It has to have at least 3 references to be a running gag, so no. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 05:23, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== Deletion category needing attention ==

To my fellow sysops: We really need to get on cleaning out the deletion category. Things have been sitting in there for months with no discussion. I've done some, but I really would like a little help. Furthermore, as I'm going out of town in a few hours, I may not be able to do much for a bit. If a bunch of us do it, it'll go a lot faster. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:39, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:I did as best i could with DorianGray's help for actual deletions given my inability to delete. I managed to clear off [[:Category:Pages for Discussion]] and about a third of [[:Category:Articles for Discussion]]. The rest of them are either lacking consensus and need more opinions, or else are SBCG4AP-related and outside my ability to really judge or even understand consensus. Hope i helped. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== General Toons Checklist ==

I think that we should have a Generic Toons Checklist similar to the one seen in [[Talk:Strong Bad Email]] (albeit shorter). The reason I'm saying this is that little steps such as {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki%3ASubtitles%2FData&diff=671537&oldid=667235 updating}} [[HRWiki:Subtitles/Data]] have been neglected in the past. While there's no guarantee that the checklist itself won't be neglected, at least we can give some structure to the updates and have a place where we can see a list and make sure we haven't missed anything. Its location would be crucial, and I think [[Talk:Main Page]] would be the best place to put it in and it's the place with the most visibility. (The checklist can explicitly point to the correct instuctions when updating [[Strong Bad Email]] or [[Weeklies]] as well.) What do you guys think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:56, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:I'm for the idea, though I don't necessarily think it should be on the main page talk. [[HRWiki:Standards]], perhaps? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:08, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
::Cool! I could have a section there for the checklist (along with links to other checklists from that page, or maybe even group them there so they're at a centralized location? -- I was thinking turning the most prominent ones into their own templates so they could be pasted in both their original and new locations). I would still like to see something in the main talk page linking to [[HRWiki:Standards]] so that people know it's there; perhaps by amending the {{tl|Main Page Talk}} header? I'll start on making the checklist and go from there. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== HRWiki store ==

The interwiki link needs changing for HRstore:. It is now homestarrunnerstore.com. Thanks! {{User:The Goblin/sig}} 13:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:Done. Thanks! For my own records: http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/ → http://www.homestarrunnerstore.com/ (We should note that somewhere in an article.) Hmm. The old Yahoo! icon doesn't seem appropriate anymore for the link. What should we use? (Interestingly, on pages where they forget to declare a favicon, it defaults to the Yahoo! one.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:23, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

== Discuss before creating a new page ==

I'm not sure how it would work, or even whether it's a good idea, but I'd like to float the suggestion that—at least until the current lull is over—no new articles be created without discussion first. (This would apply only to our secondary and tertiary articles—the ones we make to chronicle objects and themes—not toons.) It seems that during the lean times we tend to actively look for articles that can be created, ones that we might not otherwise create. Sometimes this is a [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices|good thing]]; more often, however, {{p|l={{fullurl:Special:Log|offset=20100510220000&limit=2&type=delete&user=It's+dot+com}} it is not}}. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:46, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:I actually rather like the idea, but there's no real easy way to implement this beyond what we're already doing. Still, we really *are* just scraping for new content... and it's beginning to boil down to random wiki searches for three instances of something that isn't otherwise noteworthy. I... actually may get it for this, but I'm beginning to wonder if the "three appearances" guideline shouldn't be changed somewhat. Three appearances of something in a webtoon that's been running at a rather constant pace for more than a decade really doesn't seem particularly significant anymore, especially given the incredible periods of time between them (one in 2001, one in 2002, and a very vague offhand mention in 2009 that may or may not even be related?). Maybe expand it to five? I don't know. But we're just creating pages for anything and everything these days, not really caring whether it's interesting or particularly relevant; there're many people on the "for" side of these pages whose argument is solely that they're within the technical guidelines. Not an especially compelling reason, really... but I'm getting off topic. I'd like to hear about your idea some more. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:00, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
::The problem is that often articles aren't known if they'll be worth having until they develop some content, true, there are cases where you can tell just by the name that, say, "times homestar has said the word 'then'" won't make a good article. I therefore propose a 3 step process. First, a page in the HRWiki namespace where ideas for articles can be discussed. If it's agreed upfront to be a good idea, the article can skip the intermediate steps and be made immediately in the main namespace. The second step for an iffy article that needs time to develop, is to be made as a subpage of the new article discussions page, out of the way of the main namespace, until it is either approved or rejected. The third step is, obviously, if it is approved, it's moved into the main namespace, and if it's rejected, it ends up in deleto city. If we implement this, it might even be a good idea to disable page creation in the main namespace for regular users, and have the "you cannot create pages" message include a link to the new article discussion page, at least at first, so that people get the message. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:05, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion categories ==

We need to clean out [[:Category:Articles for Discussion]] and [[:Category:Pages for Speedy Deletion]]. Some pages have been in those categories for nearly a whole year. Can we please clean them out? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's kind of hard to clean out the former, since consensus needs to be reached, and I'm sure that a sysop will get around to the latter eventually. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 07:19, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
::RickyTommy, we keep telling you not to police the wiki because you're overdoing it. Please stop telling people what they should do. I mean it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I didn't tell anyone what they should do. I was just pointing out those categories and the lack of attention they're getting. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:31, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Ah, I must have misunderstood "We need to clean out..." as saying that we need to clean out these categories.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

HRWiki:Da Basement

Loafing — Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:24:38 GMT

Loafing: /* Deletion categories */ stop policing

Talk:Homestar vs. Very Very Little Girl (short)

Loafing — Sun, 15 Aug 2010 20:26:40 GMT

Loafing: delteat

{{tbd}}
As in the case of [[Seriously!!]], this is already covered elsewhere. We don't cover Easter eggs separately from their toons, so delete. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:32, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:I believe it is unnecessary, and should be '''deleted'''. {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 19:35, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
::I agree. It's not a short, it's an Easter egg.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:26, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Seriously!!

Loafing — Sun, 15 Aug 2010 19:25:32 GMT

Loafing: /* separate article */ delete

==separate article==
I think most of this is coverd in the [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] page in the [[3 Times Halloween Funjob#Easter Eggs|Easter Eggs section]]. So i think this page is not needed.
[[User:Perducci|Perducci]] 19:15, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, we don't really document Easter eggs separately; they go with the toons in which they're found. So delete this. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:18, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
::I agree. It's an Easter egg that's already covered.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:25, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

buried

Loafing — Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:52:56 GMT

Loafing: apparently it's from 2006, so it really does pre-date the toon

{{sbenav|191}}
[[Image:sbemail_191_screenshot_2.png|thumb|"Quit ruining my ruins, Jurassic Dork!"]]

Strong Bad and The Cheat try to discover what is under Strong Badia.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, [[Taranchula|Schenkel McDoo]], {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|The King of Town}} (voice only, Easter Egg), [[Shut Up, Lady|Lady]] (voice only, Easter Egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, March 3, 2008

'''Running Time: ''' 3:55

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Six}}

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, who's checkin' emails with his pants, who's checkin' emails with his pants! ''{brings up the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: Ancient Ruins?</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
Do you know whether or not there are ancient ruins 
buried deep under Strong Badia? 
Thanks, 
Paul M. Pasquella
</blockquote>
''{reads "Pasquella" as "Pathquaya"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Pauly Pasqually, I know for sure there's a lotta ''something'' buried deep under Strong Badia. Mainly cause I rent out the dirt to unsavory characters in need of a place to stash, ditch, or make disappear, the evidence of their choice. ''{clears screen}'' I never really thought that there might be ancient ruins down there, though. I think this calls for America's coolest children's game show consolation prize: the metal detector! ''{music starts playing}''

''{Cut to a blackboard with "SLOP! MESS! QUIZ!" written on it}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' And our stupid contestants will receive the Taranchula brand Black Metal Detec-tor! ''{While he speaks, [[Taranchula]]'s logo and the [[Taranchula Black Metal Detector]] appear, followed by Videlectrix Kidx logo.}'' From Videlectrix Kidx..sx!

''{Picture of Schenkel McDoo giving an "OK" sign moves in}''

'''SCHENKEL MCDOO:''' ''{voice}'' Yah guys! Maybe find some coin! ''{words appear as he speaks}''

''{Cut to Strong Badia. Strong Bad and the Cheat are standing in a large, shallow depression in the dirt with a shovel nearby. The Cheat is wearing a pith helmet. Strong Bad is using the Taranchula metal detector.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{questioning The Cheat noises}''

''{Close up on Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I already told you, man! Where there's ruins, there's riches! And booby-traps we can steal ideas from!

''{Cut back to wide shot}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, saluting}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, let's do thiiiiiiiiiis! ''{ends on a high pitch}''

''{Strong Bad switches on metal detector and moves it around. The metal detector makes heavy metal beats in changing frequency}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, we're getting warm! ''{takes a step forward, the metal detector starts playing a guitar solo}'' We've got something, The Cheat!

''{He steps back and The Cheat sweeps the ground with a small brush. A small red object appears in the dirt.}''

''{Close-up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{dropping metal detector}'' It looks like the top of an enormous riches-filled structure! And wait, there's an inscription! ''{leans forward, reading}'' "Col...donesdry..." Must be the name of an ancient civilization!

''{Cut to close-up of Strong Sad in front of the fence}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{raising finger}'' Uh, me again! I think that's just the cap of a bottle of ''{cut to bottle cap in the dirt}'' Cold Ones Dry. You could probably just pick it up.

''{Cut back to wide shot}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What, are you crazy? I'm not touching that thing! It's booby trapped! It'll shoot a bunch of poison-tipped witch doctors at me!

''{Close up of Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Riiiiiight. Or, it's just a bottle cap, and you're crazier than ever.

''{Close up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You may be half right, kid. ''{picks up metal detector}'' Now, help me find some dang riches. ''{cut to wide shot. Strong Bad starts moving the metal detector over the dirt again. The detector makes heavy metal beat in changing frequency.}'' Uh...uh... ''{metal detector plays guitar solo}'' Whoa! ''{Strong Bad drops to the ground}'' Check out this futuristic sheet of paper!

''{Close up of Strong Bad unfolding a sheet of metal foil with a picture of a smiling alien head with arms and legs and the caption "BABBY ALIEN"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. My. Geez. I knew it! Strong Badia was originally colonized by extra-terrestrials! ''{cut to close up of Strong Bad}'' That explains why I'm so brilliant! And why all beings look the same except for slight differences of our foreheads!

''{Cut back to wide shot}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' No, that's just a piece of tin foil with a picture Strong Mad drew of you when you were little. ''{close up of Strong Sad}'' There's even a petrified chicken nugget in there that he left you. ''{As he talks, shot of Strong Bad pulling said nugget out of a fold in the foil's edge}''

''{Cut back to wide shot}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{dropping nugget}'' Quit ruining my ruins, Jurassic Dork! This clearly says "Babby Alien". ''{close up}'' Which is probably the name of my true mother, who left me here as a young larva hundreds of years ago, until someone, I'm guessing an elderly oatmeal enthusiast, unwittingly disturbed my cocoon. ''{As he talks, the scene is described in a thought bubble by Strong Mad-style drawings}'' Oh, Babs! Why did you leave me stranded here?

''{Cut to shot of Bubs standing to the side}''

'''BUBS:''' Oh, sorry about that, Strong Bad. Was I supposed to come earlier?

''{Cut to wide shot of Bubs and Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? No, I said "Babs". ''"Babs".''

'''BUBS:''' Bubs, Babs, whatever. I take what I can get.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whahn?

''{Close up of Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' Anyways, I'm here for my weekly, ''Ahem'', "delivery". ''{indicates barrels of "inTOXICatingly good WASTE" beside him}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, yeah, just bury it wherever. ''{cut to close up}'' But if you uncover any ruins, or hot aliens, or riches, they're mine, OK?

''{Cut to wide shot of Bubs and Strong Bad}''

'''BUBS:''' Uh, what about fellas named Rich?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wha-what? No, I don't know anyone named Rich.

''{Close up of Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' OK, good. ''{extreme close-up, with intensity}'' Then he can stay where he is!

''{Wide shot}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh, is there anyway I can unhear the last few sentences? ''{close up}'' Or years of my life?

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So, no, Pascual Perez, there are no ancient ruins buried under Strong Badia. Or, at least, not one foot under Strong Badia. Digging is hard, man! Did you ever try to dig a hole? It's not all wipes and montages like in the movies. It takes forever! But who knows what wonders lie, say, one-and-a-half feet beneath Strong Badia? Or, dare I say it, a few feet beneath Strong Badia. Why it staggers the bad imagination.

''{An illustration of what might be a few feet under Strong Badia moves onscreen. After a moment, the [[New Paper]] comes down}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Not-The-Police Card.png|thumb|"Your Friendly Neighborhood Not-The-Police"]]
*Click on the text "rent out the dirt" after Strong Bad types it to see Strong Bad's business card.
*At the end, click on the box of peas in the "impenetrable diaper crust" to hear The King of Town describe how he'd like to eat the various layers of the Earth:
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ooh, that thing looks delicious! I'll take two slices of that, a piece of the igneous pie, and a molten core tart. 
:'''LADY:''' Oh, that looks sinful!
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Shut up, lady!
*Also at the end, click on "coldonesdry" to see a promo for Cold Ones Dry:
:''{A Cold Ones Dry bottle cap slowly moves across a purple background}''
:'''ANNOUNCER''': Cold Ones Dry, the official beverage of Taranchula.
:''{A picture of Schenkel McDoo appears with a word balloon reading what he's about to say}''
:'''SCHENKEL MCDOO''': Yah guys, Yold Ones Vry!
:'''ANNOUNCER''': That's right Sven, learn to speak American.

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Black metal|Black metal]] is a style of heavy metal music characterized by the use of fast tempos, high-pitched guitars often played with tremolo picking, high-pitched shrieking vocals, and unconventional song structures. It is strongly associated with Norway and Sweden.
*A "[[Wikipedia:Wipe (transition)|wipe]]" is a transition in which one image seems to "wipe" off (replace) the other from the screen.
*An [[Wikipedia:Igneous|igneous]] rock is a rock or mineral that solidified from molten or partly molten material.
*Strong Bad uses a mock [[Spanish|Castilian Spanish]] pronunciation of "Pasquella" when reading the email.

===Trivia===
*The layers for under Strong Badia are:
**strong badia
**impenetrable [[diaper]] crust
**nougat layer
**ancient coldonesdry
**layer 5
**[[dinosaurs]] n sleestak layer
*The summary of the [[Podstar Runner]] RSS feed reads, "Strong Bad and The Cheat try to discover what ruins are buried under Strong Badia."

===Remarks===
*In the [[HR:/menuswfs/menu_sbemail191.swf|preview]] for this email, the [[Stop Sign]] is not shown.
*Strong Bad previously mentioned in the [[retirement#Commentary Transcript|retirement commentary]] that he would like to win a metal detector in a children's game show.
*When Strong Bad detects the tinfoil drawing, he doesn't dig in the same spot that the metal detector detected the metal.
*Videlectrix Kidx is mentioned in this email despite there already being a [[Kidelectrix]] mentioned in [[Who Said What Now?]].
*Although Schenkel McDoo has no trouble pronouncing the 'c' in coin, he cannot pronounce 'cold' correctly.

===Goofs===
*After Strong Bad clears the screen following the business card Easter egg, the egg is still available for a few seconds by clicking the empty space.
*After Bubs makes his appearance, the chicken nugget appears behind the shovel until the scene changes again.

===Inside References===
[[Image:UnderSB.PNG|thumb|A few feet under Strong Badia.]]
*Strong Bad references [[pants]] at the beginning.
*The metal detector is made by [[Videlectrix]] Kidx.
*The bottle cap is from a bottle of [[Cold One]]s Dry.
*Buried underground in one of the bottom layers is what appears to be [[Homeschool Winner]]'s [[skull]], a reference to his [[death]] from [[Sample of Style]].
*The King of Town says "[[Shut up, lady]]!" in the Easter egg. The lady was previously heard in the email [[bottom 10]], describing a "Chocolardiac Arrest".
*The crate of [[peas]] in the top layer was where Strong Bad hoped the King of Town would be trapped in the email [[different town]].
*Bubs seems to be hiding the [[death]] of some fellow named Rich, whose coffin can be seen at the end of the email.
*Strong Bad believes his [[parents]] are [[aliens]].
*Bubs's toxic waste cans read "iNTOXICATiNGLY good WASTE" using [[Lowercase i's]].
*The [[Generic Announcers|announcer]] for Cold Ones Dry was previously heard during the [[business trip]] Easter egg.
*The business card Easter egg mentions [[Not x|Not-the-police]].
*The pronunciation of "metal detectOR" is a use of [[-or pronounced with a long O]].


===Real-World References===
*"Jurassic Dork" refers to ''[[Wikipedia:Jurassic Park|Jurassic Park]]'', a novel by Michael Crichton which later became a [[Wikipedia:Jurassic Park franchise|movie series]].
*[[Wikipedia:Pascual Pérez (baseball)|Pascual Pérez]] was a major league pitcher, marking another case of a former [[Wikipedia:Atlanta Braves|Atlanta Braves]] player being mentioned.
*Sleestaks are ancient reptilian creatures from ''[[Wikipedia:Land of the Lost (1974 TV series)|The Land of the Lost]]''. [[The Poopsmith]] dressed as a Sleestak in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] and [[TrogdorCon '97]].
*Strong Bad's line about beings with different foreheads refers to the [[Star Trek]]: The Next Generation episode '[[MemoryAlpha:The_Chase|The Chase]]', in which the Enterprise crew discover a message from an ancient race who claim to have seeded the galaxy with other races that look like them, including humans, Romulans, and Klingons.
*The idea of an oatmeal enthusiast discovering Strong Bad's cocoon is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Wilford Brimley|Wilford Brimley]]. Along with his role in ''[[Wikipedia:Cocoon (film)|Cocoon]]'', Brimley is also well-known for his [[Wikipedia:Quaker Oats Company|Quaker Oatmeal]] commercials.
*The song played by the Taranchula Metal Detector bears a strong resemblance to the introduction of the song ''Bloody Tears'' from the [[Wikipedia:NES|NES]] game ''[[Wikipedia:Castlevania II: Simon's Quest|Castlevania II: Simon's Quest]]''.
*"Babby Alien" might be a reference to the internet meme "[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/how-is-babby-formed Babby]."

===Fast Forward===
*The Tarantula Black Metal Detector appears in [[Homestar Ruiner]], where various items found with it can be dug up. It also appears in [[Strong Badia the Free]] and in the rest of the [[SBCG4AP]] episodes with a matching shovel.
*Strong Bad asserts that "digging isn't all wipes and montages". In Homestar Ruiner, the scenes in which Strong Bad digs holes in Marzipan's yard are passed by a wipe in one instance, and a montage in another.
*A "Cold Ones Dry" sign would appear in [[Strong Badia the Free]] and [[Baddest of the Bands]].

==DVD Version==
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User talk:RickTommy

Loafing — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 21:06:28 GMT

Loafing: /* FAS again */ really?

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== Profanity? ==

Hi. Just saying, though not extremly vulgar in your case, please don't swear in subject bars. We all get that tense some times, but it really distracts us on the recent changes.. Keep up the good work anyway and happy Decemberween. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 02:49, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

== Your recent message to anonny ==

I deleted a message you left for an anonny saying "How dare you!" I honestly have no idea what on earth you were talking about. I can find no evidence that the anonny made any inappropriate contributions at all, and even if he/she did, that message is totally the wrong way to go about it. If an anonny vandalizes a page, please use {{tl|test}} to warn the user. Even then, make sure it's actually vandalism. Leaving and indignant and unclear message like yours won't do any good at all, so please don't do it again. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

:Well, the anonymous user edited a page that had not been edited for nine months. I can get quite annoyed when someone edits a long-untouched page for no particular reason. Now the anon's edits have caused a miniature edit war. Oh, and I believe the anon user should create an account. [[User:Jc iindyysgvxc|Jc iindyysgvxc]] 20:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
::There's nothing wrong with editing a page that hasn't been edited in a while. And it's not "for no particular reason"; the reason is that the anon thought there was something that should be added. The fact that this happened to cause a slight editing dispute is no fault of the anon's. Furthermore, while we do like for people to get accounts, there's nothing at all wrong with editing anonymously. If you're going to take offense at anonnies who edit pages that haven't been edited in a while, perhaps you should simply refrain from talking to anons at all, because it's not OK to post indignant messages for people who haven't done anything wrong. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

== May I ask... ==
Was there consensus on the [[Nicknames]] page to change every instance of self-nicknaming from the character's name to "himself"? You left no reason at all and the talk page says nothing, as well... --{{User:Homsar Jean/sig}} 23:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

== Real topic names ==

Hey there, RickTommy. I've noticed at least half a dozen times that you've just put "{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=693800&oldid=693501 Question}}" in the subject/headline field when starting a new topic. This is less than ideal because it doesn't give someone reading the headline from recent changes or a watchlist some idea of what to expect (or perhaps ignore), it makes it difficult to search for specific topics, and it doesn't mesh well with the page history. Please use a {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=693825&oldid=693817 real topic name}} in the subject/headline field when starting a new topic. It will make things much clearer and useful. Thanks one million! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:10, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
:Reviving this to point out that [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk%3AToon_loading_problems&diff=700156&oldid=700149 What...] is not really a good topic name, either. Please try to think of something that actually describes in some detail the subject you're discussing. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:41, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== "Changey" sig ==
With the text fading from one color to another? {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 00:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:Mmm...hmmm. [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] [[User talk:RickTommy|talk]] [[Image:slang.PNG|50px]] 00:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::Or did you want your sig to be the same color and font as Heimstern's? And if it's two fading colors you want, just tell which two colors and I'll get to work on it. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 00:56, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Little questions ==

Hey RickTommy. When it comes to site maintenance, you don't need to ask questions about every little behind-the-scenes detail. The answer to such questions (as far as you're concerned) is typically "because we need to" and doesn't involve any decisions related to the content of the knowledge base. Cheers. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Userboxes ==

I noticed your userboxes are placed by themselves, it's the reason why they're messed up like that. Do you need help? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 12:29, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

:Yes. Oui. Ja. Hai. Si. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:38, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
::Notice the difference between your current code you use and the below code? If you do not, I can point it out to you. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 12:44, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
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== 2 years ==

Please do not put random links in other peoples' talk posts. It's disruptive and not terribly funny - in addition, we have a rule not to edit other people's posts without a VERY good reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:51, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:Going to revive this topic a bit. Along the same lines, linking within article text to the words "2 years" when the text has nothing to do with that email is illogical and misleading, and honestly, it's not even funny. Don't do it again, please. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:16, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, I won't do it again. Especially since this idea was stolen. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Subtitles ==

Hey RickTommy, you've been doing a lot of subtitles recently which is awesome. But I do wonder about the quality. For example, [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Subtitles:sbemail136/fr&diff=693502&oldid=693495 this] is how a native speaker edited one of your French subtitles. I see that now you've also tried your hands at German and Turkish subtitles. Please have a read of the [[HRWiki:Subtitles#Translating_Subtitles|translation guidelines]]. Right in the first paragraph it says "We ask that only skilled users of a language (native speakers or advanced students with real-life experience using the language) create translations for the wiki." Do you fall into that category?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, reviving this topic to remind you: you should use {{tl|fixtranslation}} on all your French subs so Meuhcoin or another native French speaker can check them. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:49, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::Bump. Please do this. Thank you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:41, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

== Feeding the trolls ==

Hey, RickTommy. When a troll comes along and starts vandalizing, it's best not to panic and {{p|l={{fullurl:User_talk:RickTommy|curid=50327&diff=699957&oldid=699772&rcid=660705}} report}} {{p|l={{fullurl:Talk:Main_Page&curid=710|diff=699956&oldid=699864&rcid=660704}} it}} everywhere. It's ''especially'' not good to provoke them. That is what's called [[Meta:What_is_a_troll%3F#Not_feeding_the_trolls|feeding the trolls]], and only eggs them on. What's best to do is just revert, revert, revert, and wait until either he he's done, or a sysop handles him. Just a little advice, {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:29, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:Warning another user about not feeding the trolls also fuels trolls. Use e-mail next time. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 03:36, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
::I wouldn't say it was unresonable, and it's not like I informed '''during''' the attack. I waited until after. Besides, I don't believe RickTommy has an email address saved in his account, as I see no link to "email this user". {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:46, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:::You're correct; he has not entered an email address, so it would not have been possible to email him. As for vandalism, usually the best course of action is to report it in the [[HRW:IRC|chat channel]]. There's almost always a sysop around or someone who knows where to find one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:51, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Constant questions ==

Okay, I'm not sure how to phrase this, so let's just go with the direct route: You've ''got'' to stop constantly asking irrelevant questions. Here is a handy guide to help you out:
;Why hasn't article ______ been updated?:Because ''you'' haven't fixed it yet. It's a wiki. If an article needs to be updated, don't ask why it hasn't been updated, just update it. If you see a mistake that needs to be fixed, don't ask why it hasn't been fixed, just fix it.
;Why did admin ______ do what he did?:Whatever it was, most likely it was or will be discussed with other admins. The action was either to keep the wiki tidy or to enforce one of our policies. You are not an admin, so unless it's something that ''directly'' affects you (which most things don't), you don't need to concern yourself with it.
;Why hasn't admin ______ done ______ yet?:Because he hasn't gotten to it. Administration of the wikis and forum is not a paid job. We take care of things when we can. Things that are intricate or technical take longer.
;Why did we have server maintenance?:Because it needed to be done. We try to let people know when there will be maintenance as a courtesy, but as long as server interruptions are infrequent and minor, it is not a topic for discussion.
;Why ________________________________?:Sometimes there is no good answer. This is just a wiki about dumb animal characters and you probably shouldn't worry about it.
I hope that helps. If you have a question that begins with ''who, what, when,'' or ''where,'' and it refers to a ''toon,'' then feel free to ask on an appropriate talk page. Otherwise, please refer to the above. Cheers. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, RickTommy. Look at {{p|l={{fullurl:User talk:ColdReactive|diff=700601&oldid=700379}} this post of yours}}. Notice the third sentence there? It's a ''why'' question, one you should not be asking. I realize you were trying to relate to him, but it is not your place to confront other users in this manner, and so it's best if you please leave these kinds of things to the admins. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:37, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== featured article ==

Hey there RickTommy.I have been noticing that you've been suggesting a lot of ideas for [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|the weeks featured article]] a lot.It's good that you're helping out,but could you tone it down a bit.You're clogging up the Recent Changes.Don't worry,I went on an editing spree once, but people just got mad at me, so I stopped, and I recommend you stop too

In conclusion, please disregard any and all negative comments or negative burning you may here or experience,<strike> on Decmeberween</strike> if you edit too much

Stealthily Yours, {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 14:27, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hi, RickTommy. Every week almost as soon as the new FA comes up, you suggest a new one for the week 10 weeks away. Do you realize you're kind of hogging all the suggestions for yourself? You really should sometimes let someone else make the first suggestion. It doesn't have to be you every week. Please leave some chances for others. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
::Hello again, RickTommy. Since you have failed to listen to what I've said, I am changing this from a suggestion to an order. Do not continue making the first suggestion each week as soon as it's ten weeks away. If you do, I will feel free to revert your edits. It's only fair for someone else to have the first turn sometimes. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 12:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

==Account==
Don't want to, don't need to. --[[Special:Contributions/209.148.176.136|209.148.176.136]] 12:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:I don't need an account. I can do everything I need to do without an account. Now stop pestering me. --[[Special:Contributions/209.148.176.136|209.148.176.136]] 01:58, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
::I'm going to have to enforce this, RickTommy. Please don't repeatedly ask anons to get accounts. It's annoying. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I have an account now. Happy? --[[User:Kingdom Stars|Kingdom Stars]] 21:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Request for suppression ==

Please suppress the edit I made to Ar2nF's talk page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'll do it this once, but I really don't want this to become a habit. Please think carefully about what edits you're going to make before you make them so that they won't have to be removed later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Youtube Sub. ==

Thanks for the sub, I hope it's a subway melt-like sub. I love that thing. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:No probalo! {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:24, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

== Featured article templates ==

There is no rule that says that the featured article template has to be created right before the feature goes live. If anything, creating it early is a good thing – it means there's time to write the summary and clean it up, 'cause we're not in a mad rush to get it done in time. So things like {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_for_2010,_week_27&diff=prev&oldid=705053 this}} and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_for_2010,_week_28&diff=prev&oldid=705215 this}} and especially {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc&diff=prev&oldid=705197 this}} are unhelpful and uncalled-for. You're not the wiki's police force, and you don't need to clamp down on people when you think they're breaking the rules. Even more so when those rules don't actually exist. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:34, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Do not police ==

Hello, RickTommy. Your recent note to 24.124.93.11 was inappropriate. There's absolutely nothing wrong with occasionally making an edit only to revert it. It happens. A person makes an edit and then realizes "Oops!" and undoes it. That's nothing to blink an eye at, let alone leave a negatively phrased message to a brand new IP editor over. What you did was rude and uncalled for. Furthermore, you have a habit of doing this kind of thing when trying to enforce policy, as several previous threads here illustrate (including the one right above this one). Since this clearly isn't working for you, please stop policing the wiki. This means don't try to make people follow the rules. If something needs doing, let a sysop know and we'll see what we can do. But you need to not be the one to enforce policy anymore. Thank you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Sig too big ==
Hey RickyTommy, your sig is too big {{sigbox|User:RickTommy/sig}}. Please try to make it fix into the box. Thanks,{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the stuff... on my page... on the wiki[[User:MiKEmalloy|MiKEmalloy, The Cool]]

== I've removed several things ==

Recently you have shown a particular interest in another user. The specificity and persistence of your questions have begun to cross a certain line. As such, I've deleted several things from your talk page, the user's talk page, and your signature. Please do not put them back. I would like to remind you that in general we are all uncomfortable with your [[#Constant questions|constant questions]], and this is a warning that your behavior is beginning to border on disruption. Please stick to editing the main namespaces. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
[[File:Stop hand.png|left|50px]] I see now that you have continued pestering him on another site. This is your last warning. If you continue this inappropriate behavior you will be blocked from editing this wiki. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
{{clear}}
:Umm, he insulted me in his reply. I try to be nice, and this is what I get? An insult from the guy I'm trying to be nice to, and a block warning?! {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 00:05, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
::Yup. For the record, he didn't insult you. It was harsh perhaps, but that's just an indication of how far you've crossed the line. Because of your reply above I think it's pretty clear that it's time to go ahead and serve you with a block for two weeks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== FAS again ==

RickTommy, the main reason we switched to the new format you don't like so much is that in the old format, some people, yourself very much included, tended to try to dominate it instead of collaborating with others. And now you come along and at the last minute just change the queue to whatever you wanted? That's not cool, man. You've got to start listening to what '''others''' want on that page, not just what you want. I've undone your change to the queue. I or someone else should be working on the writeup for the SXSW article soon (I don't plan to delete your writeup, though, because we may be able to use the text later). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:RickyTommy, I have reverted your [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection&diff=prev&oldid=707234 changes to the queue]. You have been asked before not to simply change the queue, and you didn't even give any reason for it. I've also reverted your edit to MHarrington's comment. Do not edit someone else's comment.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::I actually ''did'' give a reason. I said that there didn't seem to be consensus. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:17, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:::No, you said "Also, the new format makes consensus harder" in your edit summary. That didn't seem to be related at all to your edit.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:06, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Editing someone else's comment ==

Hi RickyTommy. I noticed that you edited talk page posts by other users. For example [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection&diff=prev&oldid=707234 here] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Perducci&diff=prev&oldid=707236 here]. It's only OK to edit someone else's post if there is a very good reason. In these cases there was no good reason at all. And in both cases you changed the meaning. In one case you changed it significantly. Please don't do it again. Thanks,{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:The reason I edited the post in the first instance is because it didn't make sense the way it was originally written. He said "'''an''' article" instead of "'''the''' article"; this implied that he was referring to more than one article, when he clearly wasn't. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:17, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::"an" can be used singularly too, it's not uncommon to do so. If I give you an article of clothing, it's still just one piece of clothing. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 15:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Let's make this clear: pretty much the only time we ''ever'' edit others' comments is if they violate policy, such as if they have swears. Since you've been told not to enforce policy, you should not ever edit someone's comment. If it violates policy, someone else will handle it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:24, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

User talk:RickTommy

Loafing — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:14:57 GMT

Loafing: /* Editing someone else's comment */ mixed up the formats

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== HW ==

Hello, I am DavidMichael. I will be messaging everyone with this message. Do not reply. Anyways, Happy Halloween! {{User:DavidMichael/sig}}

== Profanity? ==

Hi. Just saying, though not extremly vulgar in your case, please don't swear in subject bars. We all get that tense some times, but it really distracts us on the recent changes.. Keep up the good work anyway and happy Decemberween. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 02:49, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

== Your recent message to anonny ==

I deleted a message you left for an anonny saying "How dare you!" I honestly have no idea what on earth you were talking about. I can find no evidence that the anonny made any inappropriate contributions at all, and even if he/she did, that message is totally the wrong way to go about it. If an anonny vandalizes a page, please use {{tl|test}} to warn the user. Even then, make sure it's actually vandalism. Leaving and indignant and unclear message like yours won't do any good at all, so please don't do it again. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

:Well, the anonymous user edited a page that had not been edited for nine months. I can get quite annoyed when someone edits a long-untouched page for no particular reason. Now the anon's edits have caused a miniature edit war. Oh, and I believe the anon user should create an account. [[User:Jc iindyysgvxc|Jc iindyysgvxc]] 20:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
::There's nothing wrong with editing a page that hasn't been edited in a while. And it's not "for no particular reason"; the reason is that the anon thought there was something that should be added. The fact that this happened to cause a slight editing dispute is no fault of the anon's. Furthermore, while we do like for people to get accounts, there's nothing at all wrong with editing anonymously. If you're going to take offense at anonnies who edit pages that haven't been edited in a while, perhaps you should simply refrain from talking to anons at all, because it's not OK to post indignant messages for people who haven't done anything wrong. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

== May I ask... ==
Was there consensus on the [[Nicknames]] page to change every instance of self-nicknaming from the character's name to "himself"? You left no reason at all and the talk page says nothing, as well... --{{User:Homsar Jean/sig}} 23:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

== Real topic names ==

Hey there, RickTommy. I've noticed at least half a dozen times that you've just put "{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=693800&oldid=693501 Question}}" in the subject/headline field when starting a new topic. This is less than ideal because it doesn't give someone reading the headline from recent changes or a watchlist some idea of what to expect (or perhaps ignore), it makes it difficult to search for specific topics, and it doesn't mesh well with the page history. Please use a {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=693825&oldid=693817 real topic name}} in the subject/headline field when starting a new topic. It will make things much clearer and useful. Thanks one million! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:10, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
:Reviving this to point out that [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk%3AToon_loading_problems&diff=700156&oldid=700149 What...] is not really a good topic name, either. Please try to think of something that actually describes in some detail the subject you're discussing. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:41, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== "Changey" sig ==
With the text fading from one color to another? {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 00:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:Mmm...hmmm. [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] [[User talk:RickTommy|talk]] [[Image:slang.PNG|50px]] 00:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::Or did you want your sig to be the same color and font as Heimstern's? And if it's two fading colors you want, just tell which two colors and I'll get to work on it. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 00:56, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Little questions ==

Hey RickTommy. When it comes to site maintenance, you don't need to ask questions about every little behind-the-scenes detail. The answer to such questions (as far as you're concerned) is typically "because we need to" and doesn't involve any decisions related to the content of the knowledge base. Cheers. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Userboxes ==

I noticed your userboxes are placed by themselves, it's the reason why they're messed up like that. Do you need help? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 12:29, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

:Yes. Oui. Ja. Hai. Si. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:38, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
::Notice the difference between your current code you use and the below code? If you do not, I can point it out to you. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 12:44, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
::<blockquote><div class="usermessage" style="padding:0px;background:transparent;border:0px;border-bottom:3px solid #0000FF;margin-left:-13px;padding-left:12px">Code:</div><code><nowiki>{{userboxtop}}</nowiki> <nowiki>

{{userbox|border=red|mainbkgd=yellow|codebkg=white|code=NOSTORE|msg=Unfortunately, I do not own anything from the store. And I don't think I'll be able to until I get my own [[credit card]] (which won't be for another year).}}</nowiki> <nowiki>

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=white | code=[[Image:Sbcg4ap105 235x225.png|45px]] | msg= This user got '''Maximum Awesomeness''' in [[8-Bit Is Enough]].}}</nowiki> <nowiki>

{{userbox | border=#FC3 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#39F | codecolor=#F00 | code=2007 | msg=This user discovered the H*R site in '''2007'''.}}</nowiki> <nowiki>

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== 2 years ==

Please do not put random links in other peoples' talk posts. It's disruptive and not terribly funny - in addition, we have a rule not to edit other people's posts without a VERY good reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:51, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:Going to revive this topic a bit. Along the same lines, linking within article text to the words "2 years" when the text has nothing to do with that email is illogical and misleading, and honestly, it's not even funny. Don't do it again, please. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:16, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, I won't do it again. Especially since this idea was stolen. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Subtitles ==

Hey RickTommy, you've been doing a lot of subtitles recently which is awesome. But I do wonder about the quality. For example, [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Subtitles:sbemail136/fr&diff=693502&oldid=693495 this] is how a native speaker edited one of your French subtitles. I see that now you've also tried your hands at German and Turkish subtitles. Please have a read of the [[HRWiki:Subtitles#Translating_Subtitles|translation guidelines]]. Right in the first paragraph it says "We ask that only skilled users of a language (native speakers or advanced students with real-life experience using the language) create translations for the wiki." Do you fall into that category?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, reviving this topic to remind you: you should use {{tl|fixtranslation}} on all your French subs so Meuhcoin or another native French speaker can check them. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:49, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::Bump. Please do this. Thank you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:41, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

== Feeding the trolls ==

Hey, RickTommy. When a troll comes along and starts vandalizing, it's best not to panic and {{p|l={{fullurl:User_talk:RickTommy|curid=50327&diff=699957&oldid=699772&rcid=660705}} report}} {{p|l={{fullurl:Talk:Main_Page&curid=710|diff=699956&oldid=699864&rcid=660704}} it}} everywhere. It's ''especially'' not good to provoke them. That is what's called [[Meta:What_is_a_troll%3F#Not_feeding_the_trolls|feeding the trolls]], and only eggs them on. What's best to do is just revert, revert, revert, and wait until either he he's done, or a sysop handles him. Just a little advice, {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:29, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:Warning another user about not feeding the trolls also fuels trolls. Use e-mail next time. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 03:36, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
::I wouldn't say it was unresonable, and it's not like I informed '''during''' the attack. I waited until after. Besides, I don't believe RickTommy has an email address saved in his account, as I see no link to "email this user". {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:46, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:::You're correct; he has not entered an email address, so it would not have been possible to email him. As for vandalism, usually the best course of action is to report it in the [[HRW:IRC|chat channel]]. There's almost always a sysop around or someone who knows where to find one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:51, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Constant questions ==

Okay, I'm not sure how to phrase this, so let's just go with the direct route: You've ''got'' to stop constantly asking irrelevant questions. Here is a handy guide to help you out:
;Why hasn't article ______ been updated?:Because ''you'' haven't fixed it yet. It's a wiki. If an article needs to be updated, don't ask why it hasn't been updated, just update it. If you see a mistake that needs to be fixed, don't ask why it hasn't been fixed, just fix it.
;Why did admin ______ do what he did?:Whatever it was, most likely it was or will be discussed with other admins. The action was either to keep the wiki tidy or to enforce one of our policies. You are not an admin, so unless it's something that ''directly'' affects you (which most things don't), you don't need to concern yourself with it.
;Why hasn't admin ______ done ______ yet?:Because he hasn't gotten to it. Administration of the wikis and forum is not a paid job. We take care of things when we can. Things that are intricate or technical take longer.
;Why did we have server maintenance?:Because it needed to be done. We try to let people know when there will be maintenance as a courtesy, but as long as server interruptions are infrequent and minor, it is not a topic for discussion.
;Why ________________________________?:Sometimes there is no good answer. This is just a wiki about dumb animal characters and you probably shouldn't worry about it.
I hope that helps. If you have a question that begins with ''who, what, when,'' or ''where,'' and it refers to a ''toon,'' then feel free to ask on an appropriate talk page. Otherwise, please refer to the above. Cheers. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, RickTommy. Look at {{p|l={{fullurl:User talk:ColdReactive|diff=700601&oldid=700379}} this post of yours}}. Notice the third sentence there? It's a ''why'' question, one you should not be asking. I realize you were trying to relate to him, but it is not your place to confront other users in this manner, and so it's best if you please leave these kinds of things to the admins. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:37, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== featured article ==

Hey there RickTommy.I have been noticing that you've been suggesting a lot of ideas for [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|the weeks featured article]] a lot.It's good that you're helping out,but could you tone it down a bit.You're clogging up the Recent Changes.Don't worry,I went on an editing spree once, but people just got mad at me, so I stopped, and I recommend you stop too

In conclusion, please disregard any and all negative comments or negative burning you may here or experience,<strike> on Decmeberween</strike> if you edit too much

Stealthily Yours, {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 14:27, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hi, RickTommy. Every week almost as soon as the new FA comes up, you suggest a new one for the week 10 weeks away. Do you realize you're kind of hogging all the suggestions for yourself? You really should sometimes let someone else make the first suggestion. It doesn't have to be you every week. Please leave some chances for others. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
::Hello again, RickTommy. Since you have failed to listen to what I've said, I am changing this from a suggestion to an order. Do not continue making the first suggestion each week as soon as it's ten weeks away. If you do, I will feel free to revert your edits. It's only fair for someone else to have the first turn sometimes. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 12:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

==Account==
Don't want to, don't need to. --[[Special:Contributions/209.148.176.136|209.148.176.136]] 12:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:I don't need an account. I can do everything I need to do without an account. Now stop pestering me. --[[Special:Contributions/209.148.176.136|209.148.176.136]] 01:58, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
::I'm going to have to enforce this, RickTommy. Please don't repeatedly ask anons to get accounts. It's annoying. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I have an account now. Happy? --[[User:Kingdom Stars|Kingdom Stars]] 21:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Request for suppression ==

Please suppress the edit I made to Ar2nF's talk page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'll do it this once, but I really don't want this to become a habit. Please think carefully about what edits you're going to make before you make them so that they won't have to be removed later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Youtube Sub. ==

Thanks for the sub, I hope it's a subway melt-like sub. I love that thing. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:No probalo! {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:24, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

== Featured article templates ==

There is no rule that says that the featured article template has to be created right before the feature goes live. If anything, creating it early is a good thing – it means there's time to write the summary and clean it up, 'cause we're not in a mad rush to get it done in time. So things like {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_for_2010,_week_27&diff=prev&oldid=705053 this}} and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_for_2010,_week_28&diff=prev&oldid=705215 this}} and especially {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc&diff=prev&oldid=705197 this}} are unhelpful and uncalled-for. You're not the wiki's police force, and you don't need to clamp down on people when you think they're breaking the rules. Even more so when those rules don't actually exist. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:34, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Do not police ==

Hello, RickTommy. Your recent note to 24.124.93.11 was inappropriate. There's absolutely nothing wrong with occasionally making an edit only to revert it. It happens. A person makes an edit and then realizes "Oops!" and undoes it. That's nothing to blink an eye at, let alone leave a negatively phrased message to a brand new IP editor over. What you did was rude and uncalled for. Furthermore, you have a habit of doing this kind of thing when trying to enforce policy, as several previous threads here illustrate (including the one right above this one). Since this clearly isn't working for you, please stop policing the wiki. This means don't try to make people follow the rules. If something needs doing, let a sysop know and we'll see what we can do. But you need to not be the one to enforce policy anymore. Thank you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Sig too big ==
Hey RickyTommy, your sig is too big {{sigbox|User:RickTommy/sig}}. Please try to make it fix into the box. Thanks,{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the stuff... on my page... on the wiki[[User:MiKEmalloy|MiKEmalloy, The Cool]]

== I've removed several things ==

Recently you have shown a particular interest in another user. The specificity and persistence of your questions have begun to cross a certain line. As such, I've deleted several things from your talk page, the user's talk page, and your signature. Please do not put them back. I would like to remind you that in general we are all uncomfortable with your [[#Constant questions|constant questions]], and this is a warning that your behavior is beginning to border on disruption. Please stick to editing the main namespaces. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
[[File:Stop hand.png|left|50px]] I see now that you have continued pestering him on another site. This is your last warning. If you continue this inappropriate behavior you will be blocked from editing this wiki. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
{{clear}}
:Umm, he insulted me in his reply. I try to be nice, and this is what I get? An insult from the guy I'm trying to be nice to, and a block warning?! {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 00:05, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
::Yup. For the record, he didn't insult you. It was harsh perhaps, but that's just an indication of how far you've crossed the line. Because of your reply above I think it's pretty clear that it's time to go ahead and serve you with a block for two weeks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== FAS again ==

RickTommy, the main reason we switched to the new format you don't like so much is that in the old format, some people, yourself very much included, tended to try to dominate it instead of collaborating with others. And now you come along and at the last minute just change the queue to whatever you wanted? That's not cool, man. You've got to start listening to what '''others''' want on that page, not just what you want. I've undone your change to the queue. I or someone else should be working on the writeup for the SXSW article soon (I don't plan to delete your writeup, though, because we may be able to use the text later). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:RickyTommy, I have reverted your [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection&diff=prev&oldid=707234 changes to the queue]. You have been asked before not to simply change the queue, and you didn't even give any reason for it. I've also reverted your edit to MHarrington's comment. Do not edit someone else's comment.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Editing someone else's comment ==

Hi RickyTommy. I noticed that you edited talk page posts by other users. For example [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection&diff=prev&oldid=707234 here] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Perducci&diff=prev&oldid=707236 here]. It's only OK to edit someone else's post if there is a very good reason. In these cases there was no good reason at all. And in both cases you changed the meaning. In one case you changed it significantly. Please don't do it again. Thanks,{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

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== HW ==

Hello, I am DavidMichael. I will be messaging everyone with this message. Do not reply. Anyways, Happy Halloween! {{User:DavidMichael/sig}}

== Profanity? ==

Hi. Just saying, though not extremly vulgar in your case, please don't swear in subject bars. We all get that tense some times, but it really distracts us on the recent changes.. Keep up the good work anyway and happy Decemberween. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 02:49, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

== Your recent message to anonny ==

I deleted a message you left for an anonny saying "How dare you!" I honestly have no idea what on earth you were talking about. I can find no evidence that the anonny made any inappropriate contributions at all, and even if he/she did, that message is totally the wrong way to go about it. If an anonny vandalizes a page, please use {{tl|test}} to warn the user. Even then, make sure it's actually vandalism. Leaving and indignant and unclear message like yours won't do any good at all, so please don't do it again. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

:Well, the anonymous user edited a page that had not been edited for nine months. I can get quite annoyed when someone edits a long-untouched page for no particular reason. Now the anon's edits have caused a miniature edit war. Oh, and I believe the anon user should create an account. [[User:Jc iindyysgvxc|Jc iindyysgvxc]] 20:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
::There's nothing wrong with editing a page that hasn't been edited in a while. And it's not "for no particular reason"; the reason is that the anon thought there was something that should be added. The fact that this happened to cause a slight editing dispute is no fault of the anon's. Furthermore, while we do like for people to get accounts, there's nothing at all wrong with editing anonymously. If you're going to take offense at anonnies who edit pages that haven't been edited in a while, perhaps you should simply refrain from talking to anons at all, because it's not OK to post indignant messages for people who haven't done anything wrong. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

== May I ask... ==
Was there consensus on the [[Nicknames]] page to change every instance of self-nicknaming from the character's name to "himself"? You left no reason at all and the talk page says nothing, as well... --{{User:Homsar Jean/sig}} 23:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

== Real topic names ==

Hey there, RickTommy. I've noticed at least half a dozen times that you've just put "{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=693800&oldid=693501 Question}}" in the subject/headline field when starting a new topic. This is less than ideal because it doesn't give someone reading the headline from recent changes or a watchlist some idea of what to expect (or perhaps ignore), it makes it difficult to search for specific topics, and it doesn't mesh well with the page history. Please use a {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=693825&oldid=693817 real topic name}} in the subject/headline field when starting a new topic. It will make things much clearer and useful. Thanks one million! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:10, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
:Reviving this to point out that [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk%3AToon_loading_problems&diff=700156&oldid=700149 What...] is not really a good topic name, either. Please try to think of something that actually describes in some detail the subject you're discussing. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:41, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== "Changey" sig ==
With the text fading from one color to another? {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 00:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:Mmm...hmmm. [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] [[User talk:RickTommy|talk]] [[Image:slang.PNG|50px]] 00:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::Or did you want your sig to be the same color and font as Heimstern's? And if it's two fading colors you want, just tell which two colors and I'll get to work on it. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 00:56, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Little questions ==

Hey RickTommy. When it comes to site maintenance, you don't need to ask questions about every little behind-the-scenes detail. The answer to such questions (as far as you're concerned) is typically "because we need to" and doesn't involve any decisions related to the content of the knowledge base. Cheers. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Userboxes ==

I noticed your userboxes are placed by themselves, it's the reason why they're messed up like that. Do you need help? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 12:29, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

:Yes. Oui. Ja. Hai. Si. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:38, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
::Notice the difference between your current code you use and the below code? If you do not, I can point it out to you. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 12:44, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
::<blockquote><div class="usermessage" style="padding:0px;background:transparent;border:0px;border-bottom:3px solid #0000FF;margin-left:-13px;padding-left:12px">Code:</div><code><nowiki>{{userboxtop}}</nowiki> <nowiki>

{{userbox|border=red|mainbkgd=yellow|codebkg=white|code=NOSTORE|msg=Unfortunately, I do not own anything from the store. And I don't think I'll be able to until I get my own [[credit card]] (which won't be for another year).}}</nowiki> <nowiki>

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=white | code=[[Image:Sbcg4ap105 235x225.png|45px]] | msg= This user got '''Maximum Awesomeness''' in [[8-Bit Is Enough]].}}</nowiki> <nowiki>

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== 2 years ==

Please do not put random links in other peoples' talk posts. It's disruptive and not terribly funny - in addition, we have a rule not to edit other people's posts without a VERY good reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:51, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:Going to revive this topic a bit. Along the same lines, linking within article text to the words "2 years" when the text has nothing to do with that email is illogical and misleading, and honestly, it's not even funny. Don't do it again, please. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:16, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, I won't do it again. Especially since this idea was stolen. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Subtitles ==

Hey RickTommy, you've been doing a lot of subtitles recently which is awesome. But I do wonder about the quality. For example, [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Subtitles:sbemail136/fr&diff=693502&oldid=693495 this] is how a native speaker edited one of your French subtitles. I see that now you've also tried your hands at German and Turkish subtitles. Please have a read of the [[HRWiki:Subtitles#Translating_Subtitles|translation guidelines]]. Right in the first paragraph it says "We ask that only skilled users of a language (native speakers or advanced students with real-life experience using the language) create translations for the wiki." Do you fall into that category?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, reviving this topic to remind you: you should use {{tl|fixtranslation}} on all your French subs so Meuhcoin or another native French speaker can check them. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:49, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::Bump. Please do this. Thank you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:41, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

== Feeding the trolls ==

Hey, RickTommy. When a troll comes along and starts vandalizing, it's best not to panic and {{p|l={{fullurl:User_talk:RickTommy|curid=50327&diff=699957&oldid=699772&rcid=660705}} report}} {{p|l={{fullurl:Talk:Main_Page&curid=710|diff=699956&oldid=699864&rcid=660704}} it}} everywhere. It's ''especially'' not good to provoke them. That is what's called [[Meta:What_is_a_troll%3F#Not_feeding_the_trolls|feeding the trolls]], and only eggs them on. What's best to do is just revert, revert, revert, and wait until either he he's done, or a sysop handles him. Just a little advice, {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:29, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:Warning another user about not feeding the trolls also fuels trolls. Use e-mail next time. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 03:36, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
::I wouldn't say it was unresonable, and it's not like I informed '''during''' the attack. I waited until after. Besides, I don't believe RickTommy has an email address saved in his account, as I see no link to "email this user". {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:46, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:::You're correct; he has not entered an email address, so it would not have been possible to email him. As for vandalism, usually the best course of action is to report it in the [[HRW:IRC|chat channel]]. There's almost always a sysop around or someone who knows where to find one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:51, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Constant questions ==

Okay, I'm not sure how to phrase this, so let's just go with the direct route: You've ''got'' to stop constantly asking irrelevant questions. Here is a handy guide to help you out:
;Why hasn't article ______ been updated?:Because ''you'' haven't fixed it yet. It's a wiki. If an article needs to be updated, don't ask why it hasn't been updated, just update it. If you see a mistake that needs to be fixed, don't ask why it hasn't been fixed, just fix it.
;Why did admin ______ do what he did?:Whatever it was, most likely it was or will be discussed with other admins. The action was either to keep the wiki tidy or to enforce one of our policies. You are not an admin, so unless it's something that ''directly'' affects you (which most things don't), you don't need to concern yourself with it.
;Why hasn't admin ______ done ______ yet?:Because he hasn't gotten to it. Administration of the wikis and forum is not a paid job. We take care of things when we can. Things that are intricate or technical take longer.
;Why did we have server maintenance?:Because it needed to be done. We try to let people know when there will be maintenance as a courtesy, but as long as server interruptions are infrequent and minor, it is not a topic for discussion.
;Why ________________________________?:Sometimes there is no good answer. This is just a wiki about dumb animal characters and you probably shouldn't worry about it.
I hope that helps. If you have a question that begins with ''who, what, when,'' or ''where,'' and it refers to a ''toon,'' then feel free to ask on an appropriate talk page. Otherwise, please refer to the above. Cheers. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, RickTommy. Look at {{p|l={{fullurl:User talk:ColdReactive|diff=700601&oldid=700379}} this post of yours}}. Notice the third sentence there? It's a ''why'' question, one you should not be asking. I realize you were trying to relate to him, but it is not your place to confront other users in this manner, and so it's best if you please leave these kinds of things to the admins. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:37, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== featured article ==

Hey there RickTommy.I have been noticing that you've been suggesting a lot of ideas for [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|the weeks featured article]] a lot.It's good that you're helping out,but could you tone it down a bit.You're clogging up the Recent Changes.Don't worry,I went on an editing spree once, but people just got mad at me, so I stopped, and I recommend you stop too

In conclusion, please disregard any and all negative comments or negative burning you may here or experience,<strike> on Decmeberween</strike> if you edit too much

Stealthily Yours, {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 14:27, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hi, RickTommy. Every week almost as soon as the new FA comes up, you suggest a new one for the week 10 weeks away. Do you realize you're kind of hogging all the suggestions for yourself? You really should sometimes let someone else make the first suggestion. It doesn't have to be you every week. Please leave some chances for others. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
::Hello again, RickTommy. Since you have failed to listen to what I've said, I am changing this from a suggestion to an order. Do not continue making the first suggestion each week as soon as it's ten weeks away. If you do, I will feel free to revert your edits. It's only fair for someone else to have the first turn sometimes. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 12:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

==Account==
Don't want to, don't need to. --[[Special:Contributions/209.148.176.136|209.148.176.136]] 12:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:I don't need an account. I can do everything I need to do without an account. Now stop pestering me. --[[Special:Contributions/209.148.176.136|209.148.176.136]] 01:58, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
::I'm going to have to enforce this, RickTommy. Please don't repeatedly ask anons to get accounts. It's annoying. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I have an account now. Happy? --[[User:Kingdom Stars|Kingdom Stars]] 21:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Request for suppression ==

Please suppress the edit I made to Ar2nF's talk page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'll do it this once, but I really don't want this to become a habit. Please think carefully about what edits you're going to make before you make them so that they won't have to be removed later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Youtube Sub. ==

Thanks for the sub, I hope it's a subway melt-like sub. I love that thing. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:No probalo! {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:24, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

== Featured article templates ==

There is no rule that says that the featured article template has to be created right before the feature goes live. If anything, creating it early is a good thing – it means there's time to write the summary and clean it up, 'cause we're not in a mad rush to get it done in time. So things like {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_for_2010,_week_27&diff=prev&oldid=705053 this}} and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_for_2010,_week_28&diff=prev&oldid=705215 this}} and especially {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc&diff=prev&oldid=705197 this}} are unhelpful and uncalled-for. You're not the wiki's police force, and you don't need to clamp down on people when you think they're breaking the rules. Even more so when those rules don't actually exist. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:34, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Do not police ==

Hello, RickTommy. Your recent note to 24.124.93.11 was inappropriate. There's absolutely nothing wrong with occasionally making an edit only to revert it. It happens. A person makes an edit and then realizes "Oops!" and undoes it. That's nothing to blink an eye at, let alone leave a negatively phrased message to a brand new IP editor over. What you did was rude and uncalled for. Furthermore, you have a habit of doing this kind of thing when trying to enforce policy, as several previous threads here illustrate (including the one right above this one). Since this clearly isn't working for you, please stop policing the wiki. This means don't try to make people follow the rules. If something needs doing, let a sysop know and we'll see what we can do. But you need to not be the one to enforce policy anymore. Thank you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Sig too big ==
Hey RickyTommy, your sig is too big {{sigbox|User:RickTommy/sig}}. Please try to make it fix into the box. Thanks,{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the stuff... on my page... on the wiki[[User:MiKEmalloy|MiKEmalloy, The Cool]]

== I've removed several things ==

Recently you have shown a particular interest in another user. The specificity and persistence of your questions have begun to cross a certain line. As such, I've deleted several things from your talk page, the user's talk page, and your signature. Please do not put them back. I would like to remind you that in general we are all uncomfortable with your [[#Constant questions|constant questions]], and this is a warning that your behavior is beginning to border on disruption. Please stick to editing the main namespaces. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
[[File:Stop hand.png|left|50px]] I see now that you have continued pestering him on another site. This is your last warning. If you continue this inappropriate behavior you will be blocked from editing this wiki. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
{{clear}}
:Umm, he insulted me in his reply. I try to be nice, and this is what I get? An insult from the guy I'm trying to be nice to, and a block warning?! {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 00:05, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
::Yup. For the record, he didn't insult you. It was harsh perhaps, but that's just an indication of how far you've crossed the line. Because of your reply above I think it's pretty clear that it's time to go ahead and serve you with a block for two weeks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== FAS again ==

RickTommy, the main reason we switched to the new format you don't like so much is that in the old format, some people, yourself very much included, tended to try to dominate it instead of collaborating with others. And now you come along and at the last minute just change the queue to whatever you wanted? That's not cool, man. You've got to start listening to what '''others''' want on that page, not just what you want. I've undone your change to the queue. I or someone else should be working on the writeup for the SXSW article soon (I don't plan to delete your writeup, though, because we may be able to use the text later). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:RickyTommy, I have reverted your [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection&diff=prev&oldid=707234 changes to the queue]. You have been asked before not to simply change the queue, and you didn't even give any reason for it. I've also reverted your edit to MHarrington's comment. Do not edit someone else's comment.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Editing someone else's comment ==

Hi RickyTommy. I noticed that you edited talk page posts by other users. For example [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection&diff=prev&oldid=707234|here] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Perducci&diff=prev&oldid=707236|here]. It's only OK to edit someone else's post if there is a very good reason. In these cases there was no good reason at all. And in both cases you changed the meaning. In one case you changed it significantly. Please don't do it again. Thanks,{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:TROGDOR!

Loafing — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:07:02 GMT

Loafing: /* treasure huts? */ yes

{{featuredarticle}}
== after level 27? ==
The quotes for cut scenes "after level 27" don't look kosher to me. How could he say "Smote that Kerrek" if the arcade game predated the Kerrek Email? 
[[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 21:09, 25 Sep 2004 (MST)
:I'm not seeing anything that says the Trogdor game was created before the interview email. Dragon and Interview were only a month apart. Even so, TBC could still have added it in later. "Smote that Kerreck" is plainly there, just fast forward a little. He's also listed in the credits when you beat the game.
[[User:The Brothers E|The Brothers E]]
::The arcade game was first seen between SBEmails 66 and 67. Interview was number 62. The game does not precede Kerrek's e-mail. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

Wowzers, ok. So, how does one "Fast forward"? is this a right-click-menu flash "forward" command or some other form of strangeness? :) Thanks! 
[[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 12:11, 26 Sep 2004 (MST)

Please, anyone know how to fast-foward??? I'm desperate, and everyone's always talking about it. Tell me!!!

== Fast-fowarding, *URGENT* ==

PPLLEEAASSEE!!! Won't somebody tell me how to fast-foward past level 27?!!? The whole game's a joke until you get there; it's IMPOSSIBLE!!! Please, anybody, notice this message board, and tell me how to FF past that one level. Thank you so much...I would be immensely obliged! -Justin Hack 10/09/04

As far as I know, any program that lets you fast forward won't let you actually play the levels. That said, they recently fixed level 27 (around Valentine's Day '05), so it is now beatable.

== Not very urgent ==

I've tried to get past level 27 quites a few times and, while I don't know how urgent it is, I'm really trying to figure out to see the rest of the game too. Is there a code of some sort, or how does this "fastforwarding" thing work? -ShadowP13

==Reply for everyone concerned about anything post-level 27==
Please see [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1134 this forum thread] for information regarding the findings in this article.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:34, 12 Nov 2004 (MST)

== OLD (original) version of Trogdor - anybody, anybody? ==

Does anyone have an archived version of the ORIGINAL Trogdor game as it was posted on the website the week the guys were "In Da Basement"? This original version lacked the impossible level 27, but it also lacked all cartoons post-level-20. I'm just curious if a copy's sitting out there somewhere...

[On another note, I'm pretty sure I've visited multiple treasure huts per game, contrary to what I've read on this website.]

:I don't know where you might find the original version, but you might start by looking around some of the various mirror sites (see the [[Links]] page). As for the treasure huts, you can visit more than one per game, but only once the levels start to repeat. --[[User:68.12.101.60|68.12.101.60]] 08:47, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

What is this about levels repeating? When does that happen?[[User:74.73.78.47|74.73.78.47]] 18:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

== Check this out Chief!! Possible inspiration!! ==

http://www.abandonia.com/games/624/Aargh.htm

Look at this!
This is a game where you play as a badly-drawn giant lizard and terrorize PEASENTS! IN THATCHED HUTS!!!
It's not Trogdor... it's OLDER than Trogdor... but it looks so similar!!! Could it be related - anon

:I don't see why it couldn't have been inspiration. It's related to Rampage, which the Chaps are known to like and have parodied on the site. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:06, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I can see why TBC pokes fun at Rampage (hint, hint: [[rampage|obvious sb_email reference]]), itsdotcom. {{User:GChrome/sig}} 15:57, 11 August 2010 (UTC) <nowiki>[[P.S.: It's been awhile since there was any post on this section.]]</nowiki>

==What? No heading?==

Wish I could burninate the knights.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 23:15, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Haven't heard some of the quotes ==

I haven't heard some of the Strong Bad quotes mentioned. I've played A LOT, too. In fact I played to level 100 just to see the animation, and I never heard the following quotes:

: {laughing} "He's on fire! Look at 'em burning!"

: STRONG BAD: "Beat that score, Strong Sad!" STRONG SAD: "I don't even want to play that game."

Could they only have been in the old game? -[[User:xzqx|Anne]]

I just heard the Strong Sad one. -[[User:Aaronak|Aaronak]] 23:13, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

:Happened to me too. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 01:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

== Pause glitch ==

I just ran into this glitch, so apparently it hasn't been fixed. [[User:24.13.252.150|24.13.252.150]] 08:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

If it's a glitch... Otherwise, you could click on the Flash file/game and try pressing the spacebar. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 01:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

== Paused Archers ==
I didn't see anything here about the trick where you freeze the archers by pausing when they're on the screen.
:Ah, I was using an old version, I think. Nevermind.

== It's high time we did this. ==

I've just played a good game of Trogdor (Level 11! New record! WHOO!) and I think we should add something to the wiki: Trogdor Level Guide. Who's with me? --[[User:Color Printer|Color]] [[User talk:Color Printer|Printer]] 23:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
:Well, what would we put in it? The movements of the peasants and enemies are random, so we couldn't put anything definite, other than "Avoid the enemies, stomp the peasants, burninate the cottages". {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 23:12, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
::No, like layouts and hints. --[[User:Color Printer|Color]] [[User talk:Color Printer|Printer]] 23:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

== holding down the "G" ==

I've attempted this to no avail. Am I misunderstanding what "title page" means? Does this only work on certain browsers? (I'm using Firefox) is it holding down lower-case g? shift+g? help! (wants those 30 starting mans bad!)
: It means the letter "G" in the word "TROGDOR!" in the title. Not the "G" on your keyboard. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== No "B" on Wii ==

From frame 193: <tt>contraArrayKey = newArray (38, 38, 40, 40, 37, 39, 37, 39, 66, 65)</tt>. The 66 value is not defined in sprite 387 like the rest of the keys, so therefore, the B value cannot be entered on a Wii. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 08:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: I'd test, but I never downloaded the Wii's internet browser... The Wii's controller DOES have a B button, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: That said, it DOES work if you play the Wii version through Internet Explorer on an actual computer, but come to think of it, "Start" is pointing at the screen and presisng the Wii's "A" button... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: But then again: ''If playing on a PC, the "A" key now functions as the pause button.'' Since 1 is the Pause button according to the title screen... ah, screw it. Leave it to someone who actually bothered to download the browser to test... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: It is very likely that the Brothers Chaps were already aware of this little shortcoming. They removed the referrence to the "Secret Code?" on the Hints Page that pops up when you hold the A button (mouse button) on the letter G. It is also worthy of note that the Treasure Huts do still exist, but when I entered one when I played the game, I couldn't move. --[[User:President Cold One|President Cold One]] 10:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
::The code should go something like: UUDDLRLR''(something)''1 if entered on the Wii. The complete button map looks something like this (according to [http://livedocs.adobe.com/flash/mx2004/main_7_2/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=Flash_MX_2004&file=00001113.html Adobe] and the decompiled ActionScript): --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 12:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=50% | Wii-mote Button !! width=50% | PC Key
|-
| valign="top" |
*Left
*Up
*Right
*Down
*1
*2
*A
*B
*+
*-
*Power and HOME are not modified
| valign="top" |
*Left
*Up
*Right
*Down
*A
*S
*D (I don't quite see how this one works, but oh well)
*Space
*+/=
*-/_
*Not applicable.
|}

== Invincibility Disparity ==
Somewhere on this page (and possibly the [[Peasant's Quest]] one, too), it points out Trogdor's non-indestructibility in this game. Would it be worth noting the theory that this game's Trogdor is younger than the PQ one? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 13:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:No, speculation is never worth pointing out. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

==It sounds vs. I sound==
Okay, we've got conflicting information on this page. Does Strong Bad say, "It sounds so... realistic" or "I sound so... realistic" ? I suspect he's saying "it sounds" based on context, but I don't have the means to find out. Also, can anyone point me to some instructions on how to get the means to find out? I certainly ain't gonna attempt to play through the game anymore. I lost so many mans on lev 26 that I couldn't survive past lev 29. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
:Turning to our friend Flash Decompiler for this particular problem, I can say with certainty that it's "I sound". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

== And in the night, there is time for ... Trogdor! ==

Never mind, didn't look closely enough at the article. [[User: Poopskin/about|Poopskin, Needlessly creepy x18™]] 13:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

== Miirror, anyone? ==

I still have the flash file for the wii version of TROGDOR! I was wondering, to which HRWiki staff member I have to send the .swf file, so it can be mirrored? --{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 07:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'd suggest you send it to either [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] or [[User:Tom|Tom]]. Either of them would be both happy to receive it and able to do something with it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Dubious Fact ==

*If the player gets "Sworded" and "Arrowed" at the same time, the [[portmanteau]] "Swarrowed!" will appear on the screen. To acheive this is kind of a pointless challenge, because it is very hard to accomplish, and all it really "earns" you is one less life.
Okay, i tried 10 games in a row to do this, and i either got one or the other. I don't think this is possible. On top of that, the part about "it's not worth trying" kinda makes me suspect that it's not true, as it discourages people from verifying it. Can someone please decompile the flash to verify this? also, if it IS true, a screenshot would be sweet. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:I've decompiled the Flash file before, and don't recall anything like that. I can give it another check-through real quick to be sure, if anyone wants, but I'm already sure it'll return a negative result. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::I was intriguèd by the thought, so I checked out the Flash file. No dice.. just "Arrowed!" and "Sworded!" {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=TROGDOR%21&diff=567167&oldid=554443 Silly IP}}, sending us on a wild goose chase. Or maybe he/she was just hallucinating. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

== SWORDTALITY! ==

Am I the only one who thinks that the blood-dripping "sworded" and "arrowed" text is a reference to Mortal Kombat games where the "fatality" text has a similar effect? [[User:Ryu 20X6|-=-=-RYU-=-=-20X6-=-=-]] 01:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

== Game Over? ==

When you beat a level before a scene, it will flash to the game over screen for a brief period then go to the scene. Would you consider that a glitch? --[[User:Pretztailfan95|Pretztailfan95]] 17:05, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== [[8-Bit Is Enough]] ==

Should we mention the LARGE role this game has in [[8-Bit Is Enough]] on this page? I think we should. Who agrees? -[[User:Tizye96|Tizye96]]

== Wii version mirror doesn't work on the Wii ==

I'd just like to note that the mirror for the Wii version of the game doesn't work on an actual Wii... the D-pad just scrolls the screen around instead of controlling Trogdor. It's not like it matters though, since the Wii supports keyboards now so you can just use one of those...
:Yes, that's why this and Duck Guardian were taken down. The Internet Channel got an update, which changed the use of the D-Pad (that's [[Talk:Viidelectrix#I KNOW WHY THEY TOOK TROGDOR AND DG1 OFF!|the way I hear it]], anyway), and thus the games didn't function properly, and they took them offa list. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== A squisha squisha squisha squisha squisha toniiight. ==

Has anybody ever heard that line? Does it actually exist? I know it's labeled as "rare" but I couldn't find it in the decomposed flash file, so I was wondering has anyone ever actually heard it? [[Special:Contributions/203.184.0.147|203.184.0.147]] 12:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
:I think I did. I used to ask myself the same question and I'm pretty sure that I spent a whole evening playing the game to hear it until I finally got to hear it on level 50 or something. But I won't even pretend to be 100% positive since I often have very realistic dreams of things I'm interested in at the time, so it might have been one of those. But I feel like I could give it another try today. Maybe I'll get lucky. --[[User:Cass from Germany|Cass from Germany]] 12:49, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== treasure huts? ==

I just played the game, and I didn't get the treasure hut in level 11. So I was thinking, how can you tell which huts are the treasure huts? -[[Special:Contributions/207.206.239.96|207.206.239.96]] 14:32, 3 December 2009 (UTC) 
-I figured it out. You have to not burninate the huts -_- -[[Special:Contributions/24.218.122.7|24.218.122.7]] 15:24, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

I have tried to get the treasure huts in levels 11 and 16 so many times, and they never work! What am I doing wrong? Are these huts only in the Wii version? {{unsigned|12.182.77.130|16:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)}}

:This seems like great [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum talk] to me. {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 18:00, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, i've always heard that the place to ask for help about games was on the respective wiki talk page. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 18:49, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
:::This talk page is about the contents of the article, so the forum would be the best place to ask for help.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:54, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
::::then where did i hear otherwise? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 03:09, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::I wouldn't know. Certainly not [[HRWiki:Talk page etiquette|here]], though ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:19, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. I was wondering whether these huts actually exist, however, which is relevant to the article. If these huts are only in the Wii version of the game, or if they aren't in the levels mentioned, that is worth including in the article.
:Yes, this part of your question is definitely relevant to the article. (I don't know the answer to that, though){{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:07, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

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Loafing — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:00:14 GMT

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Hi. Just saying, though not extremly vulgar in your case, please don't swear in subject bars. We all get that tense some times, but it really distracts us on the recent changes.. Keep up the good work anyway and happy Decemberween. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 02:49, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

== Your recent message to anonny ==

I deleted a message you left for an anonny saying "How dare you!" I honestly have no idea what on earth you were talking about. I can find no evidence that the anonny made any inappropriate contributions at all, and even if he/she did, that message is totally the wrong way to go about it. If an anonny vandalizes a page, please use {{tl|test}} to warn the user. Even then, make sure it's actually vandalism. Leaving and indignant and unclear message like yours won't do any good at all, so please don't do it again. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

:Well, the anonymous user edited a page that had not been edited for nine months. I can get quite annoyed when someone edits a long-untouched page for no particular reason. Now the anon's edits have caused a miniature edit war. Oh, and I believe the anon user should create an account. [[User:Jc iindyysgvxc|Jc iindyysgvxc]] 20:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
::There's nothing wrong with editing a page that hasn't been edited in a while. And it's not "for no particular reason"; the reason is that the anon thought there was something that should be added. The fact that this happened to cause a slight editing dispute is no fault of the anon's. Furthermore, while we do like for people to get accounts, there's nothing at all wrong with editing anonymously. If you're going to take offense at anonnies who edit pages that haven't been edited in a while, perhaps you should simply refrain from talking to anons at all, because it's not OK to post indignant messages for people who haven't done anything wrong. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

== May I ask... ==
Was there consensus on the [[Nicknames]] page to change every instance of self-nicknaming from the character's name to "himself"? You left no reason at all and the talk page says nothing, as well... --{{User:Homsar Jean/sig}} 23:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

== Real topic names ==

Hey there, RickTommy. I've noticed at least half a dozen times that you've just put "{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=693800&oldid=693501 Question}}" in the subject/headline field when starting a new topic. This is less than ideal because it doesn't give someone reading the headline from recent changes or a watchlist some idea of what to expect (or perhaps ignore), it makes it difficult to search for specific topics, and it doesn't mesh well with the page history. Please use a {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=693825&oldid=693817 real topic name}} in the subject/headline field when starting a new topic. It will make things much clearer and useful. Thanks one million! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:10, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
:Reviving this to point out that [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk%3AToon_loading_problems&diff=700156&oldid=700149 What...] is not really a good topic name, either. Please try to think of something that actually describes in some detail the subject you're discussing. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:41, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== "Changey" sig ==
With the text fading from one color to another? {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 00:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:Mmm...hmmm. [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] [[User talk:RickTommy|talk]] [[Image:slang.PNG|50px]] 00:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::Or did you want your sig to be the same color and font as Heimstern's? And if it's two fading colors you want, just tell which two colors and I'll get to work on it. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 00:56, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Little questions ==

Hey RickTommy. When it comes to site maintenance, you don't need to ask questions about every little behind-the-scenes detail. The answer to such questions (as far as you're concerned) is typically "because we need to" and doesn't involve any decisions related to the content of the knowledge base. Cheers. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Userboxes ==

I noticed your userboxes are placed by themselves, it's the reason why they're messed up like that. Do you need help? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 12:29, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

:Yes. Oui. Ja. Hai. Si. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:38, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
::Notice the difference between your current code you use and the below code? If you do not, I can point it out to you. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 12:44, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
::<blockquote><div class="usermessage" style="padding:0px;background:transparent;border:0px;border-bottom:3px solid #0000FF;margin-left:-13px;padding-left:12px">Code:</div><code><nowiki>{{userboxtop}}</nowiki> <nowiki>

{{userbox|border=red|mainbkgd=yellow|codebkg=white|code=NOSTORE|msg=Unfortunately, I do not own anything from the store. And I don't think I'll be able to until I get my own [[credit card]] (which won't be for another year).}}</nowiki> <nowiki>

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=white | code=[[Image:Sbcg4ap105 235x225.png|45px]] | msg= This user got '''Maximum Awesomeness''' in [[8-Bit Is Enough]].}}</nowiki> <nowiki>

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== 2 years ==

Please do not put random links in other peoples' talk posts. It's disruptive and not terribly funny - in addition, we have a rule not to edit other people's posts without a VERY good reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:51, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:Going to revive this topic a bit. Along the same lines, linking within article text to the words "2 years" when the text has nothing to do with that email is illogical and misleading, and honestly, it's not even funny. Don't do it again, please. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:16, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, I won't do it again. Especially since this idea was stolen. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 23:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Subtitles ==

Hey RickTommy, you've been doing a lot of subtitles recently which is awesome. But I do wonder about the quality. For example, [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Subtitles:sbemail136/fr&diff=693502&oldid=693495 this] is how a native speaker edited one of your French subtitles. I see that now you've also tried your hands at German and Turkish subtitles. Please have a read of the [[HRWiki:Subtitles#Translating_Subtitles|translation guidelines]]. Right in the first paragraph it says "We ask that only skilled users of a language (native speakers or advanced students with real-life experience using the language) create translations for the wiki." Do you fall into that category?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, reviving this topic to remind you: you should use {{tl|fixtranslation}} on all your French subs so Meuhcoin or another native French speaker can check them. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:49, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::Bump. Please do this. Thank you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:41, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

== Feeding the trolls ==

Hey, RickTommy. When a troll comes along and starts vandalizing, it's best not to panic and {{p|l={{fullurl:User_talk:RickTommy|curid=50327&diff=699957&oldid=699772&rcid=660705}} report}} {{p|l={{fullurl:Talk:Main_Page&curid=710|diff=699956&oldid=699864&rcid=660704}} it}} everywhere. It's ''especially'' not good to provoke them. That is what's called [[Meta:What_is_a_troll%3F#Not_feeding_the_trolls|feeding the trolls]], and only eggs them on. What's best to do is just revert, revert, revert, and wait until either he he's done, or a sysop handles him. Just a little advice, {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:29, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:Warning another user about not feeding the trolls also fuels trolls. Use e-mail next time. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 03:36, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
::I wouldn't say it was unresonable, and it's not like I informed '''during''' the attack. I waited until after. Besides, I don't believe RickTommy has an email address saved in his account, as I see no link to "email this user". {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:46, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:::You're correct; he has not entered an email address, so it would not have been possible to email him. As for vandalism, usually the best course of action is to report it in the [[HRW:IRC|chat channel]]. There's almost always a sysop around or someone who knows where to find one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:51, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Constant questions ==

Okay, I'm not sure how to phrase this, so let's just go with the direct route: You've ''got'' to stop constantly asking irrelevant questions. Here is a handy guide to help you out:
;Why hasn't article ______ been updated?:Because ''you'' haven't fixed it yet. It's a wiki. If an article needs to be updated, don't ask why it hasn't been updated, just update it. If you see a mistake that needs to be fixed, don't ask why it hasn't been fixed, just fix it.
;Why did admin ______ do what he did?:Whatever it was, most likely it was or will be discussed with other admins. The action was either to keep the wiki tidy or to enforce one of our policies. You are not an admin, so unless it's something that ''directly'' affects you (which most things don't), you don't need to concern yourself with it.
;Why hasn't admin ______ done ______ yet?:Because he hasn't gotten to it. Administration of the wikis and forum is not a paid job. We take care of things when we can. Things that are intricate or technical take longer.
;Why did we have server maintenance?:Because it needed to be done. We try to let people know when there will be maintenance as a courtesy, but as long as server interruptions are infrequent and minor, it is not a topic for discussion.
;Why ________________________________?:Sometimes there is no good answer. This is just a wiki about dumb animal characters and you probably shouldn't worry about it.
I hope that helps. If you have a question that begins with ''who, what, when,'' or ''where,'' and it refers to a ''toon,'' then feel free to ask on an appropriate talk page. Otherwise, please refer to the above. Cheers. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, RickTommy. Look at {{p|l={{fullurl:User talk:ColdReactive|diff=700601&oldid=700379}} this post of yours}}. Notice the third sentence there? It's a ''why'' question, one you should not be asking. I realize you were trying to relate to him, but it is not your place to confront other users in this manner, and so it's best if you please leave these kinds of things to the admins. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:37, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== featured article ==

Hey there RickTommy.I have been noticing that you've been suggesting a lot of ideas for [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection|the weeks featured article]] a lot.It's good that you're helping out,but could you tone it down a bit.You're clogging up the Recent Changes.Don't worry,I went on an editing spree once, but people just got mad at me, so I stopped, and I recommend you stop too

In conclusion, please disregard any and all negative comments or negative burning you may here or experience,<strike> on Decmeberween</strike> if you edit too much

Stealthily Yours, {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 14:27, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hi, RickTommy. Every week almost as soon as the new FA comes up, you suggest a new one for the week 10 weeks away. Do you realize you're kind of hogging all the suggestions for yourself? You really should sometimes let someone else make the first suggestion. It doesn't have to be you every week. Please leave some chances for others. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
::Hello again, RickTommy. Since you have failed to listen to what I've said, I am changing this from a suggestion to an order. Do not continue making the first suggestion each week as soon as it's ten weeks away. If you do, I will feel free to revert your edits. It's only fair for someone else to have the first turn sometimes. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 12:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

==Account==
Don't want to, don't need to. --[[Special:Contributions/209.148.176.136|209.148.176.136]] 12:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:I don't need an account. I can do everything I need to do without an account. Now stop pestering me. --[[Special:Contributions/209.148.176.136|209.148.176.136]] 01:58, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
::I'm going to have to enforce this, RickTommy. Please don't repeatedly ask anons to get accounts. It's annoying. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I have an account now. Happy? --[[User:Kingdom Stars|Kingdom Stars]] 21:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Request for suppression ==

Please suppress the edit I made to Ar2nF's talk page. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'll do it this once, but I really don't want this to become a habit. Please think carefully about what edits you're going to make before you make them so that they won't have to be removed later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Youtube Sub. ==

Thanks for the sub, I hope it's a subway melt-like sub. I love that thing. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:No probalo! {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 02:24, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

== Featured article templates ==

There is no rule that says that the featured article template has to be created right before the feature goes live. If anything, creating it early is a good thing – it means there's time to write the summary and clean it up, 'cause we're not in a mad rush to get it done in time. So things like {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_for_2010,_week_27&diff=prev&oldid=705053 this}} and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_for_2010,_week_28&diff=prev&oldid=705215 this}} and especially {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc&diff=prev&oldid=705197 this}} are unhelpful and uncalled-for. You're not the wiki's police force, and you don't need to clamp down on people when you think they're breaking the rules. Even more so when those rules don't actually exist. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:34, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Do not police ==

Hello, RickTommy. Your recent note to 24.124.93.11 was inappropriate. There's absolutely nothing wrong with occasionally making an edit only to revert it. It happens. A person makes an edit and then realizes "Oops!" and undoes it. That's nothing to blink an eye at, let alone leave a negatively phrased message to a brand new IP editor over. What you did was rude and uncalled for. Furthermore, you have a habit of doing this kind of thing when trying to enforce policy, as several previous threads here illustrate (including the one right above this one). Since this clearly isn't working for you, please stop policing the wiki. This means don't try to make people follow the rules. If something needs doing, let a sysop know and we'll see what we can do. But you need to not be the one to enforce policy anymore. Thank you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Sig too big ==
Hey RickyTommy, your sig is too big {{sigbox|User:RickTommy/sig}}. Please try to make it fix into the box. Thanks,{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the stuff... on my page... on the wiki[[User:MiKEmalloy|MiKEmalloy, The Cool]]

== I've removed several things ==

Recently you have shown a particular interest in another user. The specificity and persistence of your questions have begun to cross a certain line. As such, I've deleted several things from your talk page, the user's talk page, and your signature. Please do not put them back. I would like to remind you that in general we are all uncomfortable with your [[#Constant questions|constant questions]], and this is a warning that your behavior is beginning to border on disruption. Please stick to editing the main namespaces. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
[[File:Stop hand.png|left|50px]] I see now that you have continued pestering him on another site. This is your last warning. If you continue this inappropriate behavior you will be blocked from editing this wiki. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
{{clear}}
:Umm, he insulted me in his reply. I try to be nice, and this is what I get? An insult from the guy I'm trying to be nice to, and a block warning?! {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 00:05, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
::Yup. For the record, he didn't insult you. It was harsh perhaps, but that's just an indication of how far you've crossed the line. Because of your reply above I think it's pretty clear that it's time to go ahead and serve you with a block for two weeks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== FAS again ==

RickTommy, the main reason we switched to the new format you don't like so much is that in the old format, some people, yourself very much included, tended to try to dominate it instead of collaborating with others. And now you come along and at the last minute just change the queue to whatever you wanted? That's not cool, man. You've got to start listening to what '''others''' want on that page, not just what you want. I've undone your change to the queue. I or someone else should be working on the writeup for the SXSW article soon (I don't plan to delete your writeup, though, because we may be able to use the text later). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:RickyTommy, I have reverted your [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection&diff=prev&oldid=707234 changes to the queue]. You have been asked before not to simply change the queue, and you didn't even give any reason for it. I've also reverted your edit to MHarrington's comment. Do not edit someone else's comment.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

Loafing — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:55:22 GMT

Loafing: revert change to queue, revert change to someone else's comment

{{shortcut|FAS||[[FAS]]}}
Welcome to '''[[HRWiki:Featured articles|featured article]] selection'''. Please help us choose and create write-ups for our best, most interesting, or otherwise noteworthy articles to appear on the [[main page]]. For ideas, check out the [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations|featured article nominations]].

==Checklist==
{{talkchecklist|Checklist for new Featured Article:|noeditsection=true}}
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; Unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; Unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured Article Nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_Article_Nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
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==Discussion archives==
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==Featured Article Queue==
{| {{standardtable}}
! Week !! Article !! Discussion
{{FA queue| 26 Jul 2010 |Everybody to the Limit}}
{{FA queue| 2 Aug 2010 |Credenza}}
{{FA queue| 9 Aug 2010 |SXSW Panel - 14 Mar 2005}}
{{FA queue| 16 Aug 2010 |Play Date}}
{{FA queue| 23 Aug 2010 |Heavy Lourde}}
|}

===[[Everybody to the Limit]]===
:''{{done}} {{FA|26 Jul 2010}}''
It does end on August 2nd, right? Anyways, how about [[Everybody to the Limit]]? {{User:Power Pie/sig}}
:That'd be a good one. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]]
::Good. Also, I beat RickTommy. :D {{User:Power Pie/sig}}
:::No, July has 31 days. The week ends on August 1. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 15:22, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Ah. Thanks for clearing that up for me. {{User:Power Pie/sig}}
:::::Yes! Everybody to the Limit is a great idea.

===[[Credenza]]===
:''{{done}} {{FA|2 Aug 2010}}''
I'd like to go with a pseudocharacter for this week. [[Charlemagne]] seems like a good choice, but [[Wormdingler]] and [[Credenza]] would work too. --[[User:Kingdom Stars|Kingdom Stars]] 12:23, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:Credenza would work, I suppose. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 02:08, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::I like Credenza. --[[Special:Contributions/79.221.47.243|79.221.47.243]] 22:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

===[[SXSW Panel - 14 Mar 2005]]===
:''{{done}} {{FA|9 Aug 2010}}''
For this week, how about something proposed long ago: [[SXSW Panel - 14 Mar 2005|the SXSW Panel from March 2005]]. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 01:05, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's comical and worthy of being featured. --[[Special:Contributions/209.148.176.136|209.148.176.136]] 12:11, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
::We could do [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]]. {{User:Power Pie/sig}}
:::For the record, the reason MHarrington suggested the interview he did was because of [[HRWiki:Featured_Article_Selection/Discussion_Archive_2010_Weeks_11-20#HRWiki:Featured_article_for_2010.2C_week_17_.28Apr_26-May_2.29|This.]] We opted for [[The Couch]] then. I like this specific interview, so I'm for it. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 20:50, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
::::This seems like a good idea. The only mild concern I have (which I alluded to last time) is the possibility that the writeup might be too short (it's a fairly short interview). If we can get a good writeup, though, I'm all for it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:31, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::As I said, I think a more notable interview/public appearance should be featured instead. And what about my 20X6 suggestion? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:42, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::RickTommy, sometimes consensus doesn't go your direction. I think in this case that's what's happening: people are disagreeing with both of your points and favouring another option besides your suggestion. You've clearly stated that you think a more substantial appearance should be chosen and that you think this week should be 20X6. Others disagree. Constantly reiterating is not going to change people's minds, rather, it's going to make them annoyed. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Per that guy above me. --[[Special:Contributions/209.148.176.136|209.148.176.136]] 21:34, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::::RickTommy, I think you really need to focus on everything else besides just this. You're really hogging it. Why don't you do Recent Changes instead? You can edit often and not just hog! My vote anyway is really for any interview. We haven't done any in several months. [[User:Doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 15 June 2010
:::::::::We really need to focus on some interview for this week. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 06:38, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::[[All Things Considered Interview - 8 May 2005]]? {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 21:54, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

==Article discussions==

===[[Strong Bad Sings]]===
How about [[Strong Bad Sings]] instead? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 01:06, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
:If you're talking about the toon, that's too short to work. If you're talking about the CD, we already did that. I'm all for featuring [[Credenza]]. {{User:Power Pie/sig}}
::For once, RickTommy, actually focus on what is already suggested instead of hogging the spotlight. --[[User:Kingdom Stars|Kingdom Stars]] 02:24, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman 20X6]]===
How about something 20X6-related instead? Perhaps either [[Make-O Your Own Stinko]] or [[Stinkoman 20X6]] (I know we're waiting until it's finished, but at the rate the site is going, I don't think it'll ever be finished)? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:18, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:How about discussion rather than just throwing out ideas while ignoring previous suggestions? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 12:31, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
::If we're going to do an interview or public appearance, how about a more notable one? I can't really think of one (I'm not really into that sort of stuff), and besides, I wholeheartedly believe that we should do something 20X6-related this week. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:38, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:::RickTommy, that's the same thing you suggested for last week before it was deleted. So stop hogging the spotlight. --[[Special:Contributions/209.148.176.136|209.148.176.136]] 12:49, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
::::What's more, Stinkoman 20X6 is still incomplete. And judging by how things are looking on the website now, I think it will always remain incomplete. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 02:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Um, I said almost those exact words. Yes, it doesn't look like it will ever be finished. So it's no use waiting for it to be finished before we can feature it. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::We ''could'' do Make-o Your Own Stinko... {{User:Power Pie/sig}}
::::::I'd prefer to wait a while before featuring this one; too early to give up hope. But Sinko-related articles are just as good!
===[[Heavy Lourde]]===
It's probably major enough to warrant a feature. {{User:Power Pie/sig}}

===[[Play Date]]===
I hope I as an Anonny am tolerated to make this suggestion. It's been on my mind for some time. Shorts seem to get featured rather rarely for some reason and this is one of my favorites. --[[Special:Contributions/79.221.32.11|79.221.32.11]] 10:54, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Yeah it has been a while since we've featured a short. we could also do [[Ballad of The Sneak]], [[One Two, One Two]] or [[No Hands On Deck]] {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 17:50, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

===Week before Halloween 2010===
It will soon be that time of year once again, All Hallows Eve. Traditionally, we have two Halloween-themed articles, one for the week before Halloween (a minor Halloween toon or something Halloween-related) and one for the week during Halloween (a major Halloween toon). Anyway, for the week before Halloween, I'm thinking of a Puppet thing, [[Homestar vs. Little Girl 2]] (this one even mentions that a Halloween toon would be released later in the week). [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 16:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
:How about [[That-a-Ghost]] instead? And since there are hundreds of Ween-themed articles on this wiki, how about one the week after Ween as well? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::I don't think we should do more than two. It'd be just too much of an awesome thing. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm not saying I'm in favor of doing three weeks, but if we did do it, then we would have to do the Fan Costumes series. Okay, I'm done. And as for the week before Halloween, I think we've just done [[Parsnips A-Plenty]] recently. How long has it been since we've done a [[Puppet Stuff]] toon? [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 04:39, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I support featuring [[That-A-Ghost]]. --[[User:Power Pie|Power Pie]] 12:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

===Week of Halloween 2010===
For the week during Halloween, I'm thinking [[Happy Hallow-day]]. It's so different from anything else. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 16:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
:I'd like to see either [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] or [[Jibblies 2]] instead. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:: Hmm..... have we done [[Most in the Graveyard]] yet? I support the Happy Hallow-day idea too, just throwing in another idea if anyone wants it. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 8 August 2010
:::[[Doomy Tales of The Macabre]], perhaps? --{{User:Power Pie/sig}}

===[[Where's The Cheat?]]===
I'm suprised it hasn't been featured yet - I think it's the toon that most emphasises the site. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:Agreed. Let's do it. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 8 August 2010

===[[Sloshy]]===
For Aug 16-22. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:What's so special about August 16 that would make you want to feature Sloshy then? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:40, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::[[concert]] originally was released on August 20, which is during that week. That's nearest I can guess. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:53, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I think sloshy is a fine choice for an FA. I don't think we should bend over backward to time it for the anniversary, though. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:55, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm gonna have to go with Heimstern on this one. {{User:Power Pie/sig}}

===[[sisters]]===
Before I forget, I had previously suggested this one in the old format but was too soon to feature. I think it'd be a nice feature for the next time we do an email. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not sure if it's important enough for a week to itself... {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:36, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

===[[Gavin]]===
I wrote a potential [[User:DorianGray/Featured Article: Gavin|FA writeup]] for Gavin a while ago, and I'd still like to hear people's opinions on it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:01, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:The writeup looks good. I'm all for adding it to the queue. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:06, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

===[[On Point Kings]]===
I think we should do an article on the [[On Point Kings]] before the year ends. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 18:32, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
:Sure, but you or me is going to have to consult higher authority for a date. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 12 August 2010

==General discussion==
===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

[[Category:Featured article maintenance|Selection]]

Talk:TROGDOR!

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Talk:TROGDOR!

Loafing — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:54:42 GMT

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{{featuredarticle}}
== after level 27? ==
The quotes for cut scenes "after level 27" don't look kosher to me. How could he say "Smote that Kerrek" if the arcade game predated the Kerrek Email? 
[[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 21:09, 25 Sep 2004 (MST)
:I'm not seeing anything that says the Trogdor game was created before the interview email. Dragon and Interview were only a month apart. Even so, TBC could still have added it in later. "Smote that Kerreck" is plainly there, just fast forward a little. He's also listed in the credits when you beat the game.
[[User:The Brothers E|The Brothers E]]
::The arcade game was first seen between SBEmails 66 and 67. Interview was number 62. The game does not precede Kerrek's e-mail. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

Wowzers, ok. So, how does one "Fast forward"? is this a right-click-menu flash "forward" command or some other form of strangeness? :) Thanks! 
[[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 12:11, 26 Sep 2004 (MST)

Please, anyone know how to fast-foward??? I'm desperate, and everyone's always talking about it. Tell me!!!

== Fast-fowarding, *URGENT* ==

PPLLEEAASSEE!!! Won't somebody tell me how to fast-foward past level 27?!!? The whole game's a joke until you get there; it's IMPOSSIBLE!!! Please, anybody, notice this message board, and tell me how to FF past that one level. Thank you so much...I would be immensely obliged! -Justin Hack 10/09/04

As far as I know, any program that lets you fast forward won't let you actually play the levels. That said, they recently fixed level 27 (around Valentine's Day '05), so it is now beatable.

== Not very urgent ==

I've tried to get past level 27 quites a few times and, while I don't know how urgent it is, I'm really trying to figure out to see the rest of the game too. Is there a code of some sort, or how does this "fastforwarding" thing work? -ShadowP13

==Reply for everyone concerned about anything post-level 27==
Please see [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1134 this forum thread] for information regarding the findings in this article.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:34, 12 Nov 2004 (MST)

== OLD (original) version of Trogdor - anybody, anybody? ==

Does anyone have an archived version of the ORIGINAL Trogdor game as it was posted on the website the week the guys were "In Da Basement"? This original version lacked the impossible level 27, but it also lacked all cartoons post-level-20. I'm just curious if a copy's sitting out there somewhere...

[On another note, I'm pretty sure I've visited multiple treasure huts per game, contrary to what I've read on this website.]

:I don't know where you might find the original version, but you might start by looking around some of the various mirror sites (see the [[Links]] page). As for the treasure huts, you can visit more than one per game, but only once the levels start to repeat. --[[User:68.12.101.60|68.12.101.60]] 08:47, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

What is this about levels repeating? When does that happen?[[User:74.73.78.47|74.73.78.47]] 18:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

== Check this out Chief!! Possible inspiration!! ==

http://www.abandonia.com/games/624/Aargh.htm

Look at this!
This is a game where you play as a badly-drawn giant lizard and terrorize PEASENTS! IN THATCHED HUTS!!!
It's not Trogdor... it's OLDER than Trogdor... but it looks so similar!!! Could it be related - anon

:I don't see why it couldn't have been inspiration. It's related to Rampage, which the Chaps are known to like and have parodied on the site. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:06, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==What? No heading?==

Wish I could burninate the knights.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 23:15, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Haven't heard some of the quotes ==

I haven't heard some of the Strong Bad quotes mentioned. I've played A LOT, too. In fact I played to level 100 just to see the animation, and I never heard the following quotes:

: {laughing} "He's on fire! Look at 'em burning!"

: STRONG BAD: "Beat that score, Strong Sad!" STRONG SAD: "I don't even want to play that game."

Could they only have been in the old game? -[[User:xzqx|Anne]]

I just heard the Strong Sad one. -[[User:Aaronak|Aaronak]] 23:13, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

:Happened to me too. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 01:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

== Pause glitch ==

I just ran into this glitch, so apparently it hasn't been fixed. [[User:24.13.252.150|24.13.252.150]] 08:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

If it's a glitch... Otherwise, you could click on the Flash file/game and try pressing the spacebar. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 01:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

== Paused Archers ==
I didn't see anything here about the trick where you freeze the archers by pausing when they're on the screen.
:Ah, I was using an old version, I think. Nevermind.

== It's high time we did this. ==

I've just played a good game of Trogdor (Level 11! New record! WHOO!) and I think we should add something to the wiki: Trogdor Level Guide. Who's with me? --[[User:Color Printer|Color]] [[User talk:Color Printer|Printer]] 23:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
:Well, what would we put in it? The movements of the peasants and enemies are random, so we couldn't put anything definite, other than "Avoid the enemies, stomp the peasants, burninate the cottages". {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 23:12, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
::No, like layouts and hints. --[[User:Color Printer|Color]] [[User talk:Color Printer|Printer]] 23:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

== holding down the "G" ==

I've attempted this to no avail. Am I misunderstanding what "title page" means? Does this only work on certain browsers? (I'm using Firefox) is it holding down lower-case g? shift+g? help! (wants those 30 starting mans bad!)
: It means the letter "G" in the word "TROGDOR!" in the title. Not the "G" on your keyboard. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== No "B" on Wii ==

From frame 193: <tt>contraArrayKey = newArray (38, 38, 40, 40, 37, 39, 37, 39, 66, 65)</tt>. The 66 value is not defined in sprite 387 like the rest of the keys, so therefore, the B value cannot be entered on a Wii. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 08:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: I'd test, but I never downloaded the Wii's internet browser... The Wii's controller DOES have a B button, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: That said, it DOES work if you play the Wii version through Internet Explorer on an actual computer, but come to think of it, "Start" is pointing at the screen and presisng the Wii's "A" button... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: But then again: ''If playing on a PC, the "A" key now functions as the pause button.'' Since 1 is the Pause button according to the title screen... ah, screw it. Leave it to someone who actually bothered to download the browser to test... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: It is very likely that the Brothers Chaps were already aware of this little shortcoming. They removed the referrence to the "Secret Code?" on the Hints Page that pops up when you hold the A button (mouse button) on the letter G. It is also worthy of note that the Treasure Huts do still exist, but when I entered one when I played the game, I couldn't move. --[[User:President Cold One|President Cold One]] 10:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
::The code should go something like: UUDDLRLR''(something)''1 if entered on the Wii. The complete button map looks something like this (according to [http://livedocs.adobe.com/flash/mx2004/main_7_2/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=Flash_MX_2004&file=00001113.html Adobe] and the decompiled ActionScript): --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 12:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=50% | Wii-mote Button !! width=50% | PC Key
|-
| valign="top" |
*Left
*Up
*Right
*Down
*1
*2
*A
*B
*+
*-
*Power and HOME are not modified
| valign="top" |
*Left
*Up
*Right
*Down
*A
*S
*D (I don't quite see how this one works, but oh well)
*Space
*+/=
*-/_
*Not applicable.
|}

== Invincibility Disparity ==
Somewhere on this page (and possibly the [[Peasant's Quest]] one, too), it points out Trogdor's non-indestructibility in this game. Would it be worth noting the theory that this game's Trogdor is younger than the PQ one? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 13:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:No, speculation is never worth pointing out. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

==It sounds vs. I sound==
Okay, we've got conflicting information on this page. Does Strong Bad say, "It sounds so... realistic" or "I sound so... realistic" ? I suspect he's saying "it sounds" based on context, but I don't have the means to find out. Also, can anyone point me to some instructions on how to get the means to find out? I certainly ain't gonna attempt to play through the game anymore. I lost so many mans on lev 26 that I couldn't survive past lev 29. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
:Turning to our friend Flash Decompiler for this particular problem, I can say with certainty that it's "I sound". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

== And in the night, there is time for ... Trogdor! ==

Never mind, didn't look closely enough at the article. [[User: Poopskin/about|Poopskin, Needlessly creepy x18™]] 13:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

== Miirror, anyone? ==

I still have the flash file for the wii version of TROGDOR! I was wondering, to which HRWiki staff member I have to send the .swf file, so it can be mirrored? --{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 07:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'd suggest you send it to either [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] or [[User:Tom|Tom]]. Either of them would be both happy to receive it and able to do something with it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Dubious Fact ==

*If the player gets "Sworded" and "Arrowed" at the same time, the [[portmanteau]] "Swarrowed!" will appear on the screen. To acheive this is kind of a pointless challenge, because it is very hard to accomplish, and all it really "earns" you is one less life.
Okay, i tried 10 games in a row to do this, and i either got one or the other. I don't think this is possible. On top of that, the part about "it's not worth trying" kinda makes me suspect that it's not true, as it discourages people from verifying it. Can someone please decompile the flash to verify this? also, if it IS true, a screenshot would be sweet. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:I've decompiled the Flash file before, and don't recall anything like that. I can give it another check-through real quick to be sure, if anyone wants, but I'm already sure it'll return a negative result. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::I was intriguèd by the thought, so I checked out the Flash file. No dice.. just "Arrowed!" and "Sworded!" {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=TROGDOR%21&diff=567167&oldid=554443 Silly IP}}, sending us on a wild goose chase. Or maybe he/she was just hallucinating. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

== SWORDTALITY! ==

Am I the only one who thinks that the blood-dripping "sworded" and "arrowed" text is a reference to Mortal Kombat games where the "fatality" text has a similar effect? [[User:Ryu 20X6|-=-=-RYU-=-=-20X6-=-=-]] 01:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

== Game Over? ==

When you beat a level before a scene, it will flash to the game over screen for a brief period then go to the scene. Would you consider that a glitch? --[[User:Pretztailfan95|Pretztailfan95]] 17:05, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== [[8-Bit Is Enough]] ==

Should we mention the LARGE role this game has in [[8-Bit Is Enough]] on this page? I think we should. Who agrees? -[[User:Tizye96|Tizye96]]

== Wii version mirror doesn't work on the Wii ==

I'd just like to note that the mirror for the Wii version of the game doesn't work on an actual Wii... the D-pad just scrolls the screen around instead of controlling Trogdor. It's not like it matters though, since the Wii supports keyboards now so you can just use one of those...
:Yes, that's why this and Duck Guardian were taken down. The Internet Channel got an update, which changed the use of the D-Pad (that's [[Talk:Viidelectrix#I KNOW WHY THEY TOOK TROGDOR AND DG1 OFF!|the way I hear it]], anyway), and thus the games didn't function properly, and they took them offa list. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== A squisha squisha squisha squisha squisha toniiight. ==

Has anybody ever heard that line? Does it actually exist? I know it's labeled as "rare" but I couldn't find it in the decomposed flash file, so I was wondering has anyone ever actually heard it? [[Special:Contributions/203.184.0.147|203.184.0.147]] 12:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
:I think I did. I used to ask myself the same question and I'm pretty sure that I spent a whole evening playing the game to hear it until I finally got to hear it on level 50 or something. But I won't even pretend to be 100% positive since I often have very realistic dreams of things I'm interested in at the time, so it might have been one of those. But I feel like I could give it another try today. Maybe I'll get lucky. --[[User:Cass from Germany|Cass from Germany]] 12:49, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== treasure huts? ==

I just played the game, and I didn't get the treasure hut in level 11. So I was thinking, how can you tell which huts are the treasure huts? -[[Special:Contributions/207.206.239.96|207.206.239.96]] 14:32, 3 December 2009 (UTC) 
-I figured it out. You have to not burninate the huts -_- -[[Special:Contributions/24.218.122.7|24.218.122.7]] 15:24, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

I have tried to get the treasure huts in levels 11 and 16 so many times, and they never work! What am I doing wrong? Are these huts only in the Wii version? {{unsigned|12.182.77.130|16:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)}}

:This seems like great [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum talk] to me. {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 18:00, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, i've always heard that the place to ask for help about games was on the respective wiki talk page. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 18:49, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
:::This talk page is about the contents of the article, so the forum would be the best place to ask for help.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:54, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Rating Screen

Loafing — Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:08:42 GMT

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[[Image:Green band.png|thumb|300px|The Motion Picture Guy knows what's best.]]
The green '''rating screen''' is displayed before films and trailers in [[Free Country, USA]] to indicate their age-appropriateness. It parodies the "green band" [[Wikipedia:Trailer (film)#United States MPAA rating cards|rating card]] displayed before most film trailers. Unlike the real green band, it is displayed before films as well as trailers, including films with higher-level ratings. The ones used before films also feature a parody of the [[Wikipedia:Motion Picture Association of America|Motion Picture Association of America]]'s trademark rating logos.

==Appearances==
===[[In Search of the Yello Dello Theatrical Trailer]]===
<blockquote style="background:#390; color:#FFF; padding:12px; width:500px; border:none; font-weight:bold"><center>THE FOLLOWING <big>PREVIEW</big> HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR 
<big>EVERYBODY! EVERYBODY!</big> 
BY THE MOTION PICTURE GUY OF FREE COUNTRY USA</center></blockquote>

===[[Commandos in the Classroom]]===
<blockquote style="background:#0C0; color:#FFF; padding:1em; width:500px; border:none; font-weight:bold; text-align:center; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">THE FOLLOWING FILM HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR 
CERTAIN AUDIENCES 
BY SOME PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT'S BEST 
 
IT BE RATED
{| cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" style="background:none; border:1px #FFF solid; margin:0 auto; color:white"
|-
| style="border:1px #FFF solid;" | PG-13
| style="border:1px #FFF solid;" | FOR SEVERE CUSSING AND ''VERY'' ILLEGAL PONY FIGHTS
|}
</blockquote>

===[[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]===
<blockquote style="border:0px solid #000; padding: 2em; color: #FFF; background-color: #42CC00; width: 600px; text-align:center">'''THE FOLLOWING <big>PREVIEW</big> HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR''' 
<big>'''EVERYBODY! EVERYBODY!'''</big> 
'''BY THE MOTION PICTURE GUY OF FREE COUNTRY USA'''</blockquote>

===Email [[rated]]===
<blockquote style="background:#0C0; color:#FFF; padding:1em; width:500px; border:none; font-weight:bold; text-align:center; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">THE FOLLOWING FILM HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR 
CERTAIN AUDIENCES 
BY SOME PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT'S BEST 
 
IT BE RATED
{| cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" style="background:none; border:1px #FFF solid; margin:0 auto; color:white"
|-
| style="border:1px #FFF solid;" | RRR
| style="border:1px #FFF solid;" width="200pt"| FOR EXPLICIT BREAKFAST-PIERCING BULLETS
|}
</blockquote>

[[Category:Entertainment running gags]]

User talk:GChrome

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Talk:licensed

Loafing — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:02:21 GMT

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== What's new link ==
Dunno what i cans do about it, but the link to the sbemail is broked. It links to sbemail.190.html (that is, there's an extra dot). Someone with the privilege needs to fix this right quick. [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 06:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:Nvm. Fixed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
== Blackhead-Flaced Janice ==
Should it be pointed out that Blackhead-Flaced Janice is a joke on the misspelling of Pilmple-faced Bill? Is it possible to over-"over-analyze"?
:Give the [[HRWiki:Standards]] a read. I'd say this qualifies as both obvious and explaining the joke. So... no. [[User:64.198.255.1|64.198.255.1]] 20:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Homestar's Song ==

although it's similar, the song homestar's singing isn't the one from [[anything]] and [[the paper]]. that one comes from "never-ending story", but this one is different. i don't know where it's from, but i'm still deleting that inside reference. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 07:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:I'm considering the "Sail Away, Sail Away, Sail Away" part of [[Wikipedia:Orinoco Flow|Orinoco Flow]] by [[Wikipedia:Enya|Enya]]? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::i can see what you're coming from, but he says the line 4 times instead of three, so i'm guessing it's something else. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 08:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::It reminds me more of the Hot Hot Heat song [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdk8J1OOiJA Bandages], but again he says it four times instead of three. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:47, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Sounds a lot like [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBn-BpkNsA "Walking on Broken Glass"] by Annie Lennox [[User:Havl|Havl]] 20:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::That's really not how the song goes at all.[[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 00:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:It sounds to me like the Flintstone kids theme. "Yabba dab yabba dab yabba dabba do" [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scpjpz3ReMI FSK]
::Well, apparently, if everyone thinks it's something different, it has to be TTATOT.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Not necessarily, because it's possible that all but one of those people are wrong. :)
::::Just to clarify: the song Homestar sings in [[anything]] is the same tune as the themesong from The Neverending Story; that's an objective fact that can be demonstrated by anyone who knows musical notation. If a bunch of people came in saying "I think it sounds like the theme from Night Court!" and "No, it's totally 'Yesterday' by the Beatles!" and "Wait, I could swear I heard that tune in a Bach fugue somewhere" and "Are you sure it isn't from Merzbow's new album?", that wouldn't make it TTATOT. It would still actually be a reference to The Neverending Story, and all those other people would just be wrong.
:::::No, it's not the same. It's starts the same, but the end is different enough to make it obviously not the same.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 08:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I think you misread me. I'm talking about the song in [[anything]] ("The neverending soda"), not the one in [[licensed]]. I was using it as an example of a clear, indisputible reference, to make a more general point about the definition of "TTATOT." This new one isn't a clear, indisputible reference to anything I've heard, although obviously I haven't heard everything.
:::I agree with the Flintstones Kids theme. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::There are a lot of unsigned posts here, but I am making the judgement that this is a TTATOT connection, and unless a really positive match arises for this to be a parody of, it's not anything. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think the above people are onto something with the Flintstones Kids theme. For those who have knocked it, to clarify: this is referring to the 90's cartoon show, not the vitamin jingle, which is nothing alike. The idea's not too far-fetched, and we ''know'' TBC have heard of it from the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|TGS 7]] commentary. Shall maybe everyone give it a listen to be sure? I'm pulling it out of a decade-old memory here, avoiding listening to the link, and I think it's a fair match. Should they be doing it from memory, like I am, isn't a teeny bit of off-keyness expected? Plus, I mean...it's Homestar. He's flat allthedang time. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 14:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::: Yes, it sounds sort of kind of almost like the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xomL0HKwS0k Flintstone Kids] theme song, but it sounds as much like everything else mentioned above. I vote for TTATOT. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 14:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::The most convincing thing here is "walking on broken glass" which i have never heard, so i don't know if it sounds like it or not, but makes sense as it's ABOUT broken glass... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Check it out. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBn-BpkNsA "Walking on Broken Glass"] [[User:Havl|Havl]] 18:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I have to go with "Walking on Broken Glass," too. Yes, the tune HR sings has similarities to other tunes as well (which can't really be avoided, it's essentially "three notes, pause, three notes, pause, etc)", taking the subject matter of that song into account, it'd be too big of a coincidence to ignore, imo. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 22:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::But "Walking on Broken Glass" goes note, up a note, down a note (ie, same as the first). Homestar's song goes note, note, down a half note (except for the first "Broken glass" which admittedly has almost the same pattern, ie note, up a note, down a half note). [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I agree that it's not exactly the same, which is why I'm actually more hesitant than my first post makes me out to be, looking at it again. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 03:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Juys. I'm that age where I know all these tunes. It's not any of them. At all. Trust me. I cannot yet divine what, if anything, that tune refers to. (Are you aware I perform and figure out songs professionally?) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::your job is to figure out what songs are being lampooned by others? huh. at any rate, no, i don't think most people were aware. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 05:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::...The Tom and Jerry Show... [[Special:Contributions/173.32.221.240|173.32.221.240]] 19:25, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

=="Human noses?"==

Does Strong Bad imply that he is not human? Has this ever happened before?
:I was wondering about that myself. I know it was in a quick joke, and may not hold a lot of weight, but I think something like whether or not you're human isn't something that you casually contradict in a joke with out paying attention. You wouldn't say "It looks just like me except with a human nose" even as a joke, unless it was already given that you weren't human, or at least weren't considered human.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 08:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::well, no matter how you look at it, he ''doesn't'' have a human nose, just like how homestar and the like don't have arms or pants, and those are mentioned all the time, too. i don't think it has much bearing on ''what'' anybody is. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 08:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Except he said "human nose". It would have been just like Homestar's arms if he just said "nose". The humor in that, just like the humor in [[fingers]] is adding something to him that he should have but obviously doesn't. It's the same way with the word human. The humor in adding a human nose to him is that he has no nose and he's not human.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 09:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Naw, i agree with Neumannz, it's not notable beyond his lack of a visible one, whether he said human or not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 09:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think that "human" here was intended to mean "realistic". These are not cartoon noses, or animal noses. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm with E.L. Cool on this one. I definitely think he meant shaped noses, with nostrils and a bridge and all that good stuff, as opposed to a simple little ball nose, like the one Stro Bro has on the side of the Puddin' Patch. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I think this joke has been referenced in [[alternate universe]] before. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 15:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

TBC have frequently referred to the h*r characters as "funny animal characters." --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] [[User:Lelila|lelila]] [[User_talk:Lelila|(talk)]] 22:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

== A mousy description? / Coach Z can't talk. ==

First, I'm not sure about that description of the Cheat's mural picture. His pudginess and distinctive, if unlabelled, jar of Hunny seem to suggest Winnie the Pooh to me. (The antennae, obviously, are out of place.)

Second, does Coach Z say "You're toys" or "You're twice"? I definitely heard the latter, which I can imagine him saying because he's weird, but the former makes sense too. Any thoughts? -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:yeah, i hear "twice" ---[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 16:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::I originally heard it as "toys" (and put it that way in the subtitles), but it now seems closer to "twice", even with Coach Z's accent. [[User:ZanderSchubert|ZanderSchubert]] 23:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I heard"toys" or "twoise". [[User:Justin Master of Nature|[[User:Justin Master of Nature|Master of Nature]]]] 19:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:"Twice" would make a lot of sense, as there are two Strong Bads in the room. One is, admittedly, a pinata.

== Shut up, lady! ==

Have this voice and Strong Bad's response appeared enough times now for us to consider it a running gag? I know it occurred in [[bottom 10]], and I think one other...though I wouldn't swear to it. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:as noted in inside references, the second one was [[your funeral]]. i don't know enough about the rules of running gags to say whether this should be considered one. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 16:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

: I think "Shut up, Lady" should be considered a running gag. Three instances have warranted others to be added if my memory serves my correctly. The fact we've seen it in 3 toons set far apart from each other tells me that TBC find it funny and would add it into future toons. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::Ummm, it is. It's [[Shut Up, Lady|here]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 17:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh... so it is. Uh, well... I'll... sports team. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bubs' Merchandise ==
<s>Doesn't</s> Isn't Bubs selling a Strong Bad beanie cap? Should that go into teh "fun facts" section? —[[User:SpazZataKc|SpazZataKc]]

Yeah. it should. -Coleslaw

Looks like the fourth item he's selling is The Cheat-shaped Post-It notes... see also [[secret recipes]]... [[User:Agnamaracs|Agnamaracs]] 22:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Gunkistan? ==

Why got the Facts about Gunkistan being a portmanteau and a inside reference to Gunk Iller deleted?

:It may be because they're wrong...The portmanteau is less obviously incorrect, but technically -stan and is a suffix, a word in some language (Arabic) meaning "land," which is why it's used at the end of so many countries (Afghanistan = Land of the Afghanis, Kazakhstan = Land of the Kazakhs, etc.). This would make it not a portmanteau. As for the other one, being a reference to the Gunk Iller, I see no reason why this was up there in the first place. Gunk is a very common term for any gross, ambiguous substance.

::I disagree with you on the portmanteau subject. if you look at the [[Portmanteaus]] page you'll notice "Millionzoic", "Tenthennial" and "Geographist", all words with a general suffix. Gunkistan should be there too. Maybe I was a little off by saying that it's in particular park Pakistan, but that's the only country that have the letter K to form -kistan (Gun-Kistan). I'm not readding it still so it won't start to be and edit war, but I think it should be discussed. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:::What about Kyrkistan? And almost Kazakhstan... [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Ok, there's no Kyrkistan, but [[Wikipedia:-stan#Countries|there are]] Tajikistan and Uzbekistan as countries (as well as some made up ones in the section below). Is anyone else objecting to this fun fact? It's not TTATOT because of the many countries, but it's a reference to -stan in general. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

:::::There is no Kyrkistan???? I dont know but this country I am sitting in had a big sign at the Airport...Welcom to Kyrkistan. Got a beautiful view of the Himilayas, nice weather. But if you say so, I will roll with it. Just what country am I in?
::::::Your ISP is in Kyrgyzstan. That does sound pretty similar to "Kyrkistan", I have to admit ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:02, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

== Old Lady ==

Now that the Old Lady made a third appearance, should we revive her page? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 16:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

We should if we have pages like [[Europa-pean Lobster]]. [[User:Tojo940|Tojo940]] 05:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

== Two things ==
1.) Are we sure Homestar is singing "broken glass?" because I heard "working class". 2.) Will the shady daycare be haunting anybody else's nightmares or just mine?

:"Working Class" makes no sense. The pinatas were filled with broken glass as evidenced by the multiple lacerations and shards on Homestar's face. Since Strong Bad asked Homestar to reveal what was contained there-in. In true Homestar way he sung it. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:1) definitely broken glass, 2) just yours --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 17:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:"Working Class" makes so much more sense that its more than a little surprising that someone would post it. The fact that they did it anonymously makes me wonder if it was another trollish post designed to incite an argument. Its a wonder that someone didn't call this person names. -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]
::there's still time for that --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bubs arms. ==

Has anyone noticed that Bubs arms are animated the same way they were in Nightlife and how Coach Z's were in Trogday 08?--{{User:Kirbychu HR'D/sig}} 20:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. It's a new style design. Individually drawn per frame. It seems to be the way things are done from now on. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::yeah, we're not worrying about mentioning it anymore, since it's become standard and it's under bub's evolution page --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Toucan Sam, Zazu, and Cinderella ==
[[Image:Toucans.png|thumb|fourcans]]
<blockquote>The cover of "Jungle Animals in Decidedly Non-Jungle Situations" has a variation of The Cheat similar to The Lion King (The Cheat resembles Zazu) and Toucan Sam, mascot of Froot Loops. The other is Cinderella.</blockquote> This is in desperate need of rewording, but first we need to decide what we're doing with it. It can't be Zazu and Toucan Sam. Isn't that TTATOT? I don't really think it's either. It's just a toucan. A random jungle animal. Also, are we sure the other DVD is a play on Cinderella? It seems likely, but not certain. But if so, it needs to be worded better.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:Or is it just generally agreed that it's pointless to mention any of that crap? I'm for that, too.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think the refernce to Zazu can go, but Toucan Sam should stay. The Cheat looks nothing like Zazu, beyond the blue color and big beak, nor does he look much like a real toucan, but the striped beak gives him a strinking resemlance to Toucan Sam. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 21:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, if it looks like anything, it's Sam.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 22:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::I think it's generic, but the overall feel is the lion king. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Zazu's not even a toucan. He's a hornbill. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Although the colours are in a slightly different order, there is a clear similarity between Toucan The Cheat and Toucan Sam. This was the first thing I thought when I saw the DVD case.{{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I agree, the colors, especially the black followed by the pink, are particularly reminiscent of Toucan Sam. That's definitely what I thought too. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 18:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Another one who thinks it looks like Toucan Sam. Follow your nose! [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bioshock Reference? ==

Does the singing child at the daycare remind anyone else of the 2nd little sister sighting in Bioshock? The little sister is heard singing a song to the same tune, in a very creepy way. The fact that they're both singing the same tune, both children and the fact that it is very creepy in both cases suggests a reference, no?

:Senor Cardgage is not a child. And it's a common kid's tune. And Senor is always creepy, so it might not be a reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

==Toys R Us==

I think I saw a Toys R Us reference. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:We,, you may or may not be correct about that. It would depend on what you saw, which I have no idea what it was.... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::The drawings on the building. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Ugly Bird ==

Anyone else think that Homestar calling the swollen, floating The Cheat an "Ugly Bird" is a reference to... um... the one other email (I forget which one) where Homestar called a swollen, floating The Cheat an "Ugly Bird?"
: Someone else sure does, thats why they mentioned it in the article: ''The Easter egg where Homestar sees The Cheat float by and thinks he's an ugly bird is a reference to helium. '' -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]

==Blood?==
Just wondering how blood is an "Inside Reference." You don't have to be a Homestar Runer fan to fully appreciate blood jokes. [[User:Catman87|Catman87]]
:Because blood is a recurring element/gag in some toons. The [[blood]] page ties all appearances of blood together in a list. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::Then shouldn't be called a "Running Gag" instead of a "Inside Reference?" [[User:Catman87|Catman87]]
:::It refers, within the Homestar Runner universe, to the "blood" running gag. Does that make it clearer? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== This is like the best sbemail in a long while ==

It's awesome and good and classic and this is the best Bubs appearance since lunch special ;0
:that is a very forum-esque comment for a Talk page, so let's keep that to a minumum --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== beanies ==

Aren't those strong bad beanies that Bubs has a real item in the store? I'd check myself but I'm far too lazy.--[[User:97.82.22.53|97.82.22.53]] 00:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yes they are (I own one), which is why it is mentioned in the article http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/licensed#Remarks [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Murdered person at the daycare? ==

What's with the outline of the person? It looked like a person had been murdered or something.
:mentioned on the [[Papa Cardgage's PUDDIN' PATCH]] page --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

It's just there too add a scary feeling to that daycare. -Coleslaw

==Disney DVDs==

The DVDs resemble Cinderella and The Lion King. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:One problem, however is that The Lion King does not feature non-jungle situations. I think "The Wild" would be a closer match. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::Someone suggested TaleSpin. Huh? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::No, it represents The Jungle Book. [[User:76.173.92.70|76.173.92.70]] 23:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::: Strong Bad makes it clear what these are and why they ''vaguely'' resemble Disney movies: "The ones that are slight variations of slightly animated kids' movies. The kind they put right next to the check-out line, so Grandma might accidentally mistake it for the real thing." When Disney releases an animated movie, knock-off companies rush their own ultracheap adaptations of the public domain source to the stores while the big budget version's still in theaters in order to get kids and grandmas to get all excited seeing "Aladdin" (or whatever) in the store and buy it. Go look at the cheap movie bin at a drugstore or the supermarket checkout racks sometime if you've never seen these. Not Bothering To Make An Account, 37:94 Forty-Terst Decembuary 20X8.
For reasons I can no longer remember, I originally thought the "4" in the title of the Cinderella parody was a reference to the fact Disney made a Cinderella 3 last year. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:Could be a reference to all the crappy sequals to old movies that they came out with for the past few years, cinderella 2 and 3 (and 4?) among them... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Strong Bad as a ''lion'' with a (king's?) ''crown'' makes me think it's supposed to be The Lion King. Of course, The Cheat looks a whole lot more like Toucan Sam than Zazu ... Maybe it's an amalgam of several things. (I certainly don't see TaleSpin, though!) The other definitely looks like Cinderella to me (though his dress reminds me more of Snow White's ...)--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:The TaleSpin thing is the desk, a reference to Sheer Khan's desk. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::That's wediculous. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:06, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
All this opinion on which real-world movie this is it, can only make you more understand the joke. The DVDs are almost one thing, but not quite the other. Almost like Cardgage's speech. Don't try to overthink what particular story is each DVD, or try to break it down to pieces and put each piece in the right movie. That's just the whole joke. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:As the article says (or said at one point, this cold makes me not bothering to check the page to see if it's still there), it's a reference to the slipshod animated features that two-bit companies come out with to coincide with Disney's feature film release dates. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Um, TaleSpin wasn't a Disney movie, it was a Disney tv show. but I digress. Anon, 20:50, 22 February 2008
:As Awexome said... huh? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:10, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::Because it has the word "jungle" in it, I thought it was The Jungle Book if it's not The Lion King. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:53, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

==Toothbrush==

Could someone explain the toothbrush? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:it's a novelty "sugar toothbrush" which i guess means it spins the sugary SB head against a kid's teeth --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

What's it supposed to be a parody of? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:What that description brings to my mind is those Cap Spin Pop devices that spin the little lollipops while they are licked. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::That's what I was thinking too. It's a lollipop, not a toothbrush. Evidence: electric toothbrushes don't spin like that, there is no evidence of bristles of any kind, it's extremely lollipop-shaped, and the usage of words like "rot the teeth out of" and "sugar". Also, given the other unlicensed merch (and unlicensed merch in general), a spinning lollipop fits much better than a toothbrush. As such, the explanation about novelty toothbrushes should either be reworded or outright destroyed. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Note also that he's talking specifically about unlicensed confections at that point (if we weren't already clear...). -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 04:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Broken-Glass Soda? ==

Anyone else find the Broken Glass/Ugly Bird song similar to the "Never-ending Soda" song from 'anything'?
:There is a thread above on this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

==Toothbrush description==

I think the toothbrush description is incomplete. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:I couldn't find a detailed enough link. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I think the toothbrush does something that isn't mentioned in its description. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:It would be much easier for most of us if you could try to be specific. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::Or better yet, add to the Fun Facts section whatever it is you think would make the description complete, and I'll try to tell you if it's true. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think the top comes off. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 03:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

== Homestar's Birthday ==

When Homestar says that it was "his best birthdays ever", does this mean that his birthday is on February 19? {{User:The Teach!/Twig}}
:You're assuming Homestar knows what he's talking about. This is not a safe assumption. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::So you're saying that he is so stupid that he doesn't even know whether it's really his birthday or not? {{User:The Teach!/Twig}}
::: Seeing as how he doesn't even know he's not wearing pants, yes, I am saying he's that stupid. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::he does know about the pants, it's just sometimes traumatic to think about it ([[long pants]]) --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 05:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::I says until they have a cartoon that specifically depicts his birthday, we can't really know. There's no guarantee that they had the party that day, or that the party was on the same day as his actual birthday, or, as aforementioned, that Homestar had any idea what he was talking about.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 06:18, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's like claiming that [[Nibbles|Nibbles']] birthday is on July 11 because that's the day [[bottom 10]] came out. The only birthdays we actually know are [[Happy Trogday|Trogdor's]] (Jan 13) and Stinkoman's (Jan 6). {{User:The Chort/sig}} 10:33, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::And, I suppose, [[cheatday|cheatday]]. --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] [[User:Lelila|lelila]] [[User_talk:Lelila|(talk)]] 04:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

==Guttenberg==
Project Guttenberg is an online library. I think this should be mentioned somewhere - Owen
:guttenberg is a common last name, and a city, and this that and the other thing. No connection. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::Guttenburg is a reference to the Guttenburg Bible. All other uses of it are also references to that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Which is, in turn, a reference to the man who made said bible, [[Wikipedia:Johannes Gutenberg|Johannes Gutenberg]]. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 05:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Which is also, in turn, a reference to the man's father. Moral of the story: unless there's a direct correlation between something and a common name, it's best not to make a reference to it. [[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 08:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::For what it's worth, when I first saw Guttenberg, I thought of [[Wikipedia:Steve Guttenberg|Steve Guttenberg]] ... So I agree. Not a specific reference to anything.--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

==Intro==

The intro sounds familiar. I'm thinking some kids show. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

==Disney==

Is Disney becoming a running gag now? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:Show me the other references. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

==Jungle Animal DVD==

The desk on the Jungle Animal DVD reminds me of Becky's desk from TaleSpin. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:look [[#Disney DVDs|up]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

== Beginning email song ==

It appears that Strongbad is singing to the tune of "I'm Gonna Wash That Man Right Out Of My Hair"
Can I get someone to second that? --[[User:68.166.201.226|68.166.201.226]] 23:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
: The first couple of notes sound like it, but not the rest of it. --[[User:97.82.22.53|97.82.22.53]] 01:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== My Gym Partner Is A Strong Bad ==

The "Jungle Animals in Non-Jungle Situations" thing reminds me heavily of the Cartoon Network show "My Gym Partner is a Monkey." Anyone else? (Oops, mistakenly put this as an edit rather than an addition.)

== Papa Cardgage ==

For the record, the song Frère Jacques and the song Where Is Thumbkin have the same tune, and judging from the lyrics, I think it was meant to be an allusion to Thumbkin, not Jacques :P

== Internet Connection ==

So... that shot from the back of Strong Bad's computer? Yeah, there's definitely no phone or ethernet line connected back there, nor is there any card in his PCMCIA slot (not that I'd think the lappy was wifi-capable, anyway...) so I can only assume Strong Bad is not actually connected to the Internet. I don't really think this is significant enough to be mentioned in the remarks section, but I thought I'd bring it up, anyway. --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] [[User:Lelila|lelila]] [[User_talk:Lelila|(talk)]] 22:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:It's especially not worth bringing up, as this [[Talk:isp#Lappy Back|isn't the first time we've seen the back of the Lappy]], either. Though I thought there was more discussion about his connection cables than that... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

== Daycares ==

Is it noteworthy to point out that the unlicensed-characters-in-daycares is a reference to how Disney started cracking down on people harmlessly having disney characters painted on their walls at daycares?
:What connection is there to that specific incident? None. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::[http://www.snopes.com/disney/wdco/daycare.asp What are you talking about, DeFender1031?] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:47, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

== Broken Glass ==

Although Bubs says the items in his coat (among which the pinata is visible) are safe, the pinata had broken glass in it. Is this worth mentioning? [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 19:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:I think that's worth a Remark. Do it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:41, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's explaining the joke, and a remark would kinda insult the reader's intelligence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I tried adding it, but it got removed. Do you think we should STUFF it? [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 17:20, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:I strongly feel it's unnecessary. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

== The Cheat's "hurried" noise ==

It seems to me that the way The Cheat sounded when rushing is unmistakably the same one used when he was flinged through the air by the Poopsmith in [[strong badathlon|email 165]]. Inside-References-worthy? --[[User:66.82.9.107|66.82.9.107]] 04:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

:Totally! But why hasn't anybody added that yet? I'll add it myself if no one else will. --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 15:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
::Because they reuse a lot of noises, a lot of times, so, not noteworthy. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:::It's been 364 days since the last post, and I want to say that this The Cheat sound was only used twice. Should it go in the Remarks section instead? I still don't care if it doesn't. --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 17:41, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== That's Not Candy! ===
{{stufffact|Although Bubs says the items in his coat (among which the piñata is visible) are safe, the piñata had broken glass in it.}}
{{stuffverdict|20:29, 8 March 2008 (UTC)|10:25, 19 March 2008 (UTC)|declined|15|5|licensed}}

== Released on Tuesday ==

When this email was first released, didn't Strong Bad reference that the email was released Tuesday night. I am guessing they have changed it but I remember him saying that. ---[[User:Lefaid]]
:Maybe you're thinking of [[yes, wrestling]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:Or [[ghosts]] (where he remarks on how it's not Monday)? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks it was it was [[yes, wrestling]] 9:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

== Math fact ==

Much like the possibility in #152 ([[isp]]), the number of this email is a multiple of #38 ([[helium]]), so do you think that would have something to do with the cheat puffing like a balloon?
:Like my [[Talk:isp#Math fact|response there]], i still have no idea what you are talking about. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
::Those things are most likely a coincidence, so they should not be mentioned in the article. As for your remark at [[Talk:isp]], when you wondered why 152/38=4, Strong Mad, the one affected by the helium, is the fourth character to appear in the email. Same goes for this email: 190/38=5, The Cheat is the fifth character to appear. If your going to do numerology, do it the right way ;) Still, it's just a coincidence. Also, please sign your posts (type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to do so.) {{User:The Commander IN COMMAND/sig}} 18:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== Disney??? ==

It never once even crossed my mind that the DVDs shown were based on Disney sequels as the fact currently states (I reverted an edit that expanded the "reference" thinking it ''added'' it, until I looked closer.) It looks more like the bad Disney ''knockoffs'' that sit near the checkout stand in many department stores, that almost always have the same (or similar) subject as contemporary Disney movies. That fits better with the context of the email's theme, too. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
:Agreed. It's got nothing to do with the disney sequels, and everything to do with the knockoffs. That's the point of this email in the fist place. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
::Should I baleete the whole fact or just the part about sequels? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 21:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
DeFender, can I ask you to make up your mind about the subject? [[#Disney DVDs|Earlier]], you said, "Could be a reference to all the crappy sequals...", but here you say, "It's got nothing to do with the disney sequels...", so I tried to remove it from the Wiki's [[Disney]] article, but you [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Disney&diff=next&oldid=628623 reminded me] not to remove "legitimate content". Do you or do you not think it's a parody of Disney sequels? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 01:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
:::This was a while ago, and i don't remember every post i make, but I'm pretty sure i'm commenting about two separate things. I think what i was saying was that the high sequel number is a reference, but the rest of it is not, but like i said, it was a while ago. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Coach Z's Hand ==

I was watching this on my DVD and noticed that Coach Z's hand must have been made in the same flash image as the pinata and string because, as it (the pinata) swings, his hand rotates. Is this a goof like it was done just to make animating easier, or is this supposed to happen. I watched this on my tv, so it's kinda harder to see on the computer. Viewing the flash file helps. So, what do you think? -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 00:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== In Decidedly Non-Jungle Situitions ==

Is there a page for "Jungle Animals In Decidedly Non-Jungle Situations"? {{User:C-Son-L Sweaters/sig}} 23:44, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

== no human nose ==

I don't know if I'm just confused or if this is a real fun fact.Strong Bad says that one of the requirements in order to sell unlicensed products of him and The Cheat, one of them must have a human nose,but of of their products show them without human noses.I think this is notable. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:08, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:Well, yeah, he says that a requirement to ''sell'' unlicensed stuff is that one of them has to have a human nose. He never says that characters ''in the products'' have to have human noses. And, they are never seen actually selling their items. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 01:14, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
::Erm, I don't think either of those really apply, StrongAwesome. Anyway, on the DVDs, The Cheat has weird noses, but not HUMAN noses. The Cheets and Strong Brush don't have human noses, either, though each only represents one character. I'd say notable, for the DVDs especially. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:17, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Twice? ==

I think it should be footnoted that Coach Z (in my opinion) may have said "Hey Strong Bad look, you're toys!". I just can't hear twice, although I hear the W, I don't hear the I. --[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 16:12, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:I happen to agree. Toys also makes more sense contextually. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::The Coach's accent is a little hard to hear clearly, but in the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEkZI8vGDxo DVD version], it's clearly "twice". Seeing as it's a pinata, and it's made to look like Strong Bad, both "toys" and "twice", respectively, don't make ''perfect'' sense, but you can hear "twice" clearly. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 20:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Still, taking Coach Z's accent, it could be Toys, as I can only hear a slight W, and I'm listening at 90% volume. It could, at least, be placed as a footnote, until we get some sort of confirmation. --[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 20:43, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Twice. the last sound isn't voiced enough for it to be "toys". and as for not making perfect sense, that's what [[Twice|this]] is for. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::I knew this'd be exactly what'd happen, I'm just saying it kinda sounds like it, and the page Twice doesn't make it make sense, since Twice makes sense in other contexts, but saying Toys would still make sense, as he is holding a Strong Bad toy, and that he is in form of one. Although Twice also makes sense as he is referring to duplication, so that's why I suggested a footnote. --[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 21:45, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::Well, we scarcely use footnotes, and only when there's never a clear consensus, and ''and'' as a last option. We never think footnote as the first thing to do. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 22:23, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Like I say on my user page, I'm pretty new here. I was just saying, it sounds like toys. Not twice. I guess it's you big admin guys' descisions, so I'll be quiet. --[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 22:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::::As a matter of fact, only one admin has posted so far, and he agrees with you. However, one of our policies for talk pages is to treat everyone's opinion equally, regardless of sysop, ordinary user, anonny, etc. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 22:36, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I really can't hear anything here but "twice". First, the "w" is pretty clear, and that vowel, while Coach Z'd a bit, still sounds a lot more like "i" than "oi". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:23, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Hallrunner

Loafing — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:49:31 GMT

Loafing: /* Game like this */ forum

{{featuredarticle}}
Funniest game ever. Play it. Now. Seriously. {{unsigned|216.244.37.199|21:01, 14 September 2004}}

Who are you? -Kinsey

You know, the tunnel in this game kinda looks like the tunnel shown on the targeting computer in Star Wars Episode IV.-[[User:Homsar Runner|Homsar Runner]]

Yeah, it kinda does. Should that be listed as a fun fact, or just be forgotten forever? {{User:Bubsty/sig}}

I just played this game, and all the messages came up normally through the message at 56. Then I didn't get the poutine message until after obstacle 71, and the call it quits message at 78. Weird.[[User:70.224.207.92|70.224.207.92]] 01:55, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
==the shark in list of messages==

hey um. the shark doesnt have periods (.) after it in the list of messages, ie:
*shark:
**Fight: It was a shark It bites your fists off. Too bad. ''*-1 point*''
**Talk: It was a shark Quint calls out to you from the depths of the shark's belly with some keen fishing tips. ''*+2 points*''
**Jump: It was a shark You jump the shark. Just like Homestarrunner.com. ''*0 points*''

should it look like this: 

*shark:
**Fight: It was a shark. It bites your fists off. Too bad. ''*-1 point*''
**Talk: It was a shark. Quint calls out to you from the depths of the shark's belly with some keen fishing tips. ''*+2 points*''
**Jump: It was a shark. You jump the shark. Just like Homestarrunner.com. ''*0 points*''

or are the periods missing in-game too? {{User:Csours/sig}} 03:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
:found the answer to my own questions in the xml file. =\. the periods are missing in game too{{User:Csours/sig}} 03:36, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
::Yep, missing in-game. Weird, huh? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::better go [[sbemail|email]] strongbad so he can ficks it.{{User:Csours/sig}} 03:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

==changing file?==

Can someone help me? I read on the article that it's possible to change the answers through the xmf file or something but I'm not sure how that works... Thanks! -Cyndi
:That's easy! Feel free to follow along with my simple step-by-step instructions. I make XML-editing FUN!!
:# First, save the SWF (the Flash file) and the XML file to your hard drive. Save them both in the same folder for easy access.
:# Right-click on the XML file, and choose "Open with..."
:# Select the text-editor of your choice. Notepad works best, due to its simple format.
:# Now you have your XML file open for editing. Everything between the tags labelled "<code><hallrunner></code>" will be included in the game. Each object is offset by "<code><q></code>". The object name is identified with the "<code><obj></code>" tag, and the replies are identified by the "<code><a></code>" tag, which also includes the point value.
:# Pick an object. It can be anything you want. For example, let's say... [[The Cheat]].
:# Alter the existing code to whatever you like. It's easiest to just look at the existing code and changing what you need. The top item in the "<code><a></code>" list is the response for choosing "FIGHT IT", the second is for "TALK TO IT", and the third for "JUMP IT". You can assign different replies, objects, and even change the point values. Soon you'll have a totally customised Hallrunner game of your very own. Have fun!
:# Make sure to '''SAVE''' your XML file when you're done editing it. Do not rename the file, or the game will not recognise it.
:Hope that helps. =3 Enjoy yourself, everyone who actually reads this. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Cool! I edited the XML file but I'm having trouble opening the SWF file... Do I need to download something for that? -Cyndi
:::Usually you can open it in your favorite browser (IE, Firefox), unless you have IE 7, which I'm pretty sure has a bug that doesn't let you read swf files. If you do have IE 7, then just save the html file onto the same place and open that. This looks really cool...I should try it. :D - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 18:24, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

== Odell Woods? ==

The options to "Fight it," "Jump over it," and "Talk to it" are a lot like the similar options you get in the old Apple II game Odell Woods, where whenever you "come up on" an obstacle (which is more greatly described in the game,) you have the option to "Run from it," "Ignore it," "Eat it," and "Chase it." Is this notable, or should it be forever relegated to the dustbin of HRWiki History? --[[User:President Cold One|President Cold One]] 11:10, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
:There were a number of games in that time period that used these types of commands and options. I can't think of the names of any off the top of my head, so I can't say don't add it, but if you do it may end up being considered TTATO. - {{User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C/Sig}} 13:27, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

== Just Random ==

If you played the game with a perfect score, at (+2 points per round), 3 rounds per minute, 60 minutes per hour, 24 hours per day, 365 days per year (366 on leap years {Although according to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Leap year|every 100th year that does not multiply with 400 is not a leap year]]}) for 120 years, it would be possible to get to 378,683,424 points. Of course, the average life expectancy needs to be more than 120 years of age, even for the biggest computer addict. {{unsigned|154.5.181.164|15:25, 14 October 2007}}
*I guess. Also, to get 100,000,000 points with that sequence, it would take about 31.7 years.

== Date? ==

While working on [[Horses]], I noticed that both [[Peasant's Quest]] and [[Hallrunner]] have a date of August 2, 2004, but while Peasant's Quest correctly says it was a Monday, Hallrunner claims it was a Tuesday. Do we know the correct date for Hallrunner? Something must be wrong, even if just the weekday. The page was created without any real information on the 14th September 2004. Then this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Hallrunner&diff=prev&oldid=1998 diff] on the 15th describes the gameplay but does not link to it. This [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Hallrunner&diff=prev&oldid=2065 diff] (16th September 2004) is the first to show the responses and link to the game. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:53, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

== Commas between group separators? ==

Just out of curio'''u'''sity, is there a comma separator between 1000 points and/or 1000 obstacles? It's not too important, I just want to know.

== Custom game keeps crashing ==

I saved the .swf and .xml files on my computer, in the same file, edited the .xml to have my questions. I'm sure that there aren't any mistakes in it. When I open the .swf in Mozilla Firefox, it starts up fine, it's got all my custom questions, but after about six or seven questions, it freezes up and says that the script that it's running off of is making it run slow. I get off, get back on, and it does the same thing again six or seven questions later. What is causing this, and how do I fix it? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

== Game like this ==

I remember a flash game like this, but you had 3 differing options every round. It also had a platformer view and had lots more colors. I can't remember what it's called. Can someone link it to me?
:This talk page is for discussing the contents of the article. You should ask your question at the forum (see "external links" on the left).{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:49, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

User:Scziçy

Loafing — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:22:38 GMT

Loafing: Reverted edits by Verlyn (Talk) to last revision by DeFender1031

This is where I hang out when I should be writing my term papers and things.

79 Seconds Left

Loafing — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:19:59 GMT

Loafing: rv. his right leg (not the left) is slightly darker, but that has nothing to do with the water

{{toonnav|Shorts|79secondsleft|Pistols For Pandas|Loading Screens}}
[[Image:79 Seconds Left Screenshot.PNG|thumb|"No, you knee-wetters!"]]
Homestar and Strong Sad pour water on their knees in their new [[Wet Knee Gumption Club]] while Strong Bad attempts to change his name.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]]

'''Date:''' Monday, May 18, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 0:79 [[TV Time Toons Menu|official]] (1:19), 1:25 actual

'''Page Title:''' Please to be committing, comrade!

==Transcript==
''{Title card: 79 seconds left! Music plays softly in the background}''

''{Cut to The Field. Homestar Runner and Strong Sad are sitting with their knees up. A glass of water is sitting next to Strong Sad.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I say, just go for it, you know. You just move forward, commit to yourself, ''{Strong Sad nods}'' and ''{punctuates each word}'' go for it!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Okay, I think I'll take a chance.

''{Strong Sad pours some of the water onto his knee.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' It tickles!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You see? That's what I'm talking about, man. ''{closeup of Homestar}'' Water. On. The knee. Commit to it!

''{record scratch sound; music stops}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Your pathetic ''{cut back to wider shot, with Strong Bad now visible standing on a wooden chair}'' conversation ''pales'' in comparison to the one you are about to be a part of.

''{close up of Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{sarcastically}'' Oh great, I can't wait.

''{close up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I've finally committed to it. I've talked about it for years, but I'm finally moving forward! ''{zip pan to a low shot of Strong Bad with a yellow background}'' You're all going to have to start calling me "The Ledge" from now on!

''{Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hi, The Ledge From Now On. Would you like to join our wet knee gumption club?

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, just "The Ledge".

''{wider shot of all three}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' The Ledge? Like ledge of a cliff?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You mean, like, short for leg?

''{close up of Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' A-''lleged'' ladies' man?

''{close up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{annoyed}'' Short for leg?

''{shot of all three}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, you knee-wetters! Like short ''{Cut to frontal shot of Strong Bad}'' for "The Legend"! As in, I am one! A living one! A -dary one!

''{shot of all three}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, dairy. Like cows. Like a cow leg.

''{close up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{excited and quivering}'' Oh, Strong Bad! It's like my cow lamp and your tape leg ''{picture of the [[cow lamp]] and Strong Bad's dismembered leg wrapped in tape appear over Homestar's head}'' had a baby in my brain ''{the cow lamp and tape leg merge and go into Homestar's head}'' and just came out my mouth! ''{cloud marked "Cow Leg" comes out of Homestar's mouth, Homestar leans toward it}'' There, there, little guy. Daddy's here.

''{shot of all three; Strong Bad sits down in the chair}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{reluctantly}'' Ugh, hand me that knee water... ''{Homestar hands the glass to Strong Bad}''

''{Title card: Just 3 to go...} {The sound of water being poured can be heard in the background}''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad and Homestar; Strong Bad's knee is wet}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Teehee, it does tic—

''{Title card: None seconds left.}''

''{Title card: end.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on "e" in end to see Strong Bad write his new title on a composition book.
*:'''STRONG BAD:''' This book belongs to: ''{He starts writing on the note area of the cover. A fanfare plays.}'' The Ledge. ''{He spells "Ledge" as "LEG". A record scratches and the fanfare stops.}'' Aw, crap! Homestar was right! This just spells leg!
*Click on the period to see a poster for the Water on the Knee club. It has a cartoony picture of a knee with water being poured on it, with the caption "COMMIT TO IT!!". Text below the picture reads "Water on the Knee", "Paid for by the Wet Knee Gumption Club".
**Click again to see a Russian version of the poster. The cartoon is much more angular, and is colored only in red and shades of grey. The caption now reads "ПередаЙТе  ЭТО!!". The text below the picture is the same, but in a different font.

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[http://orthopedics.about.com/od/hipknee/f/swelling.htm Water on the knee] is a medical condition where excess fluid collects in the knee joint.
* The (grammatically incorrect) [[Russia|Russian]] phrase "Передайте Это!!" ("Peredajte Èto!!") on the second poster translates in English to "Transmit This!!" The correct phrasing is "Поручите к ему!!" (Poruchite k emu!!)

=== Remarks ===
*The [[audio quality]] is higher than usual here.
*Ignoring the Loading screen, there are, indeed, almost exactly 79 seconds between the beginning and the appearance of the "none seconds left" card. However, there are closer to two seconds from when the "Just 3 to go" card appears and when the "none seconds left" card appears.
*This is the first toon to list the time only in seconds on the menu when it goes over the one minute mark.
*Homestar sits down fully on the ground. He does not seem to have a bottom, as his legs bend up into his shirt, as in [[flashback]] and [[extra plug]].
*The description on the [[Shorts]] menu originally read "'''Homestar''' and Strong Sad run outta time" while the [[New Stuff]] menu read "'''HSR''' and Strong Sad run outta time." This was later changed so both read "HSR".

=== Goofs ===
* Even after being poured on Strong Sad and Strong Bad's knees, the water level in the glass never goes down.

=== Inside References ===
*Strong Sad and Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|both]] [[Strong Sad Smiling|smile]] when they pour the water on their knees.
*Homestar compares his revelation to [[Tape-leg|tape-leg]] and the [[cow lamp]] having a [[Babies|baby]] in his [[brain]].
** The image of the tape-leg itself comes from [[personal favorites]].
*Homestar calls himself the "cow leg's" [[Parents|daddy]].
*"The Ledge" uses an [[integral article]].
*Homestar previously confused the pronunciation of a spoken word based on its written spelling in [[car]].
*The [[page title]] is a reference to [[Please to be]].

==External Links==
{{extlinks|79secondsleft|15330}}

[[Category:Shorts]]

User talk:Avalyn

Loafing — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:25:38 GMT

Loafing: /* www. not part of the domain... */ clarification

==Welcome!==

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Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user space belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.

Sincerely, 
{{User:Phlip/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee" 10:55, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

== In regards to your post... ==

In regards to your post on [[HRWiki talk:Toon loading problems]], under "Status of Toons", you wrote "only sbemail [[privileges]]". By that, did you mean that [[privileges]] was the only cartoon that worked or did not work? I would like it if you would please reword your results to avoid confusion. Thanks, 
{{User:Shine Sprite/sig}} 00:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

== www. not part of the domain... ==

Just so you're aware, homestarrunner is actually the domain name... www. is the prefix and .com is the suffix. Technically, that article should only say homestarrunner, and not have either the prefix or the suffix. Also note that if homestarrunner.com allowed you to login, you would quickly find out that www.homestarrunner.com and homestarrunner.com are both ''different'' domain names if you say otherwise. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 03:45, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, www.homestartunner.com and homestarrunner.com go to the same place. However, go to any domain name registrar and try to register "www.homestarrunner.com" ... you can't. "www" is a subdomain. I changed [[Harmless Junk, Inc.|that article]] because it says "December 6, 1999 — Registered the domain name ..." and "www" is not a part of an actual domain name. It is, as I said, a subdomain. Believe me, I used to work for a domain name registrar. It goes www = [[wikipedia:Subdomain|subdomain]], homestarrunner.com = [[wikipedia:Domain name|domain name]]. ".com" is actually the [[wikipedia:Top-level domain|top-level domain (TLD)]], but that nomenclature is not noted unless referring to only the TLD by itself. [[User:Avalyn|Avalyn]] 06:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:: Regardless, a subdomain is still not part of the domain name, it's an add-on. You also should link to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web#WWW_prefix correct page and section] on Wikipedia. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 15:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:::The article is correct with Avalyn's changes. You can only register "homestarrunner.com", not "www.homestarrunner.com" or "homestarrunner". Apart from that, "www.homestarrunner.com" is a domain name because every subdomain is a domain itself. Note that "homestarrunner.com" is also a subdomain.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:25, 18 July 2010 (UTC)