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Jibblejibblejibble — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 22:19:33 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/Welcome!

Talk:shapeshifter

Jibblejibblejibble — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 22:14:17 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/YOUR grandma, or MY grandma?

== G-Mom? ==
Is this the first SBEmail to mention the Strong Bad and Bros have a living grandmother? I know in [[looking_old|looking old]] Strong Sad mentions a possibly living great grandmother, so conceivably it makes sense their grandmother is still alive. A worthy trivia mention? {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 13:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Not necessarily, we don't really know if either of their grandmother's are still alive. The line was "turn into presents your Grandma's knitted for you". Strong Bad may have recieved that scarf a long time ago. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 13:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== It's all about the Benjamins ==

I think there should be an explanation about Coach Z's use of the slang Benjamins, but I can't figure out how to phrase it. The term comes from having [[Wikipedia:Benjamin Franklin|Benjamin Franklin]] on the face, and it was popularized by Sean "Puffy" Combs "It's All About The Benjamins". Anybody want to take a stab at phrasing it (or is it something that shouldn't be noted)? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:31, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

:I concur. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 15:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::I think it merits a reference, but I'm kinda stuck trying to word it, too. Any help? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

==Shapeshift Unto==

Isn't that phrase from some superhero show? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 15:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:About the best I can think of The Wonder Twins from the 1970s Superfriends show, but it seems more like a general nod than a specific reference. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::Wonder Twins said, as I recall, "Wonder Twins powers activate! Form of an ice cube! Shape of an eagle!" or something like that. Is there any basis to the fact mentioning Wonder Twins anyone is aware of? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:55, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, I'd say SB's saying of "you can only turn into presents your grandma's knitted for you" links them in. That line seems to be similar to the whole "one guy only turns into various forms of water". Just my 2 cents. --[[User:71.121.142.173|71.121.142.173]] 23:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

== Shapeshifting Limitations ==

Are the limitations that are mentioned based on other shapeshifting characters? Does anyone know those references? --[[User:71.250.238.120|71.250.238.120]] 18:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
: He's exaggerating for effect. I am aware of the [[Wikipedia:Animorphs|Animorphs]], who were shapeshifters who had the limitations that they had to touch an animal to turn into it and would be trapped if they stayed in a form for more than two hours at a time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
: One of the Wonder Twins could only morph into an animal, and the other only into a form of water. Darkman could only hold his form for 99 minutes, Ranma 1/2 changed back and forth from being immersed in water of a certain temperature. The "gun but no bullets" thing seems more Green-Lanterny to me, but I suppose that it's sort of a Clayface limitation. I recall that once he morphed into Black Canary but was discovered since "she" couldn't remove her blonde wig. [[User:Tirian|Tirian]] 22:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:: There's also the T-1000 who couldn't "turn into a bomb to get [John Connor]". [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 23:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Following the DC Comics trend, Beast Boy can turn into any animal, but always stays green. (It's better than how he was originally scripted, where he could turn into any animal, but couldn't change his head...) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

== Marzipan ==

Marzipan looks strange in this. I think it's because of the eyebrows. Does she always have eyebrows? {{User:The thing/sig}} 19:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

:I believe that's sort of a "frightened look," like what the Peanuts characters have when they're frightened or something. Believe me, [[Quality Time|she had that look before]]. --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 21:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Foreign Deals ==

"Strong Bad saying "norweigan deals!" after turning into the king of town is a reference to business trip where the king of town was the foreign conglomerate, and Strong Bad and Homestar tried to land the deal."

ok, so what about "swedish deals"? i don't think you can say one is an inside reference but not the other because they're clearly supposed to be related to each other, and besides, going from "foreign" to "norweigan" is a ridiculous stretch. ...plus there's a distinct lack of capitalization going on here. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 20:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, this is a TTATOT.

-[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]]

......no, it isn't. It's just... a '''stretch'''. There's a difference. There's no "That" or "The Other Thing". -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== "presents your grandma's knitted for you" ==

Okay, I think "grandma's" may be a grammatical error. It could be an improper pluralization (possibly accidentally or for comedic effect, like "be's friends"), or it could a contraction of "grandma has," though that's very irregular. What people think? [[User:Arrkhal|Arrkhal]] 22:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:I assumed "grandma has" being that he meant anything your grandma has ever knitted for you.
::i don't think it's as irregular as you think --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 23:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Proves that Coach Z wears a skin-tight green exercise suit? ==

I think this email proves that Coach Z's green "skin" is actually a skin-tight suit, since he's able to put the dollar bill into his pocket.

(The guy who forgot to sign his name the first time... -[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]])

:Think of one of TBC's big influences, though: Looney Tunes. How many times did Bugs Bunny pull something out of a pocket in his fur, or even unzip it to take it off? Fur, however, is undeniably skin (okay, fine, a part of his body). As my dear grandma--er, poopaw--always said, it's just a cartoon. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 00:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:You never see his pocket for the rest of the sbemail.[[User:chipwich]]
::It's not even a pocket. He says it's the waistband of his sweatsuit. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Sweatsuit!! Ta-da the message has been sent from [[User:Meaty85203|Meaty85203]] 22:00, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

== Democratic Party reference ==

Is it possible that the blue Exact-Same-Style-Balloon-Animal being referred to as a donkey has something to do with the Blue-Donkey-Democratic Party vs Red-Elephant-Republican Party imagery that is common in the United State? — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 02:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:I'd say probably not. The donkey and elephant are usually both based in blue, with a red stripe bearing white stars. If anyone can contradict me, though, have at it. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 14:39, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I think what he's saying is that the Democratic Party is normally represented or distinguished using the color blue, and their mascot is a donkey. Likewise with the Republican, except using red and an elephant. But I just think that a donkey in a balloon animal would be blue, it just seems to fit the animal, you know what I mean? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

==Good work, but it needs grammar correction==

Could someone do some cleanup? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 04:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes. this is getting annoying.--[[User:Sydez|Sydez]] 11:00, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

: I don't know why all of you people are having problems. Everything looks fine to me. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

::That's because you're cheating. =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

::: No, I'm not. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

::::Hee hee. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:50, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

:::::<nowiki>April Fools Day I am guessing this is</nowiki> {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 22:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::Using Non-Breaking Spaces (&nbsp;) is not cheating either. --[[User:99.153.135.134|99.153.135.134]] 03:53, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::Fail, Raptor5ix. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

== 3uSyK2RdlUY? ==

What is this easter egg when you click on Strong Bad's disk container?--[[User:76.234.22.197|76.234.22.197]] 04:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

It's a Youtube video code... --[[User:Mtp1997|Mtp1997]] 19:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
== What's the meaning of the code in the easter egg at the end? ==

What's with the easter egg when I click on the diskette box at the end? I can't decode the scrap of paper that comes up. It doesn't appear to be mentioned on this page at all (though it's hard to tell what's on this page with the garbled text).
:Look at the topic right above yours, annony. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

== Garbled code discovered -- It's a Youtube hash! ==

Ever paid attention to those weird codes used to bring up YouTube videos? You know, the ones that basically guarantee you'll never see a particular video coming when a link is posted? I (and a few others by now) took that code and appended it to the URL prefix "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=" and got a video for Strong Bad Gameways, which is some kind of introduction "safety video" to the Homestar Runner Wii game lineup I suppose.

== Chemicals and other elements ==

I've not seen Terminator 2 to know, but.. "not into ammunition that has chemicals and other elements"? I can't understand a lick of it. Everything physical is made of chemicals, and chemicals aren't a type of element, elements are the building blocks of all chemicals. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
:Are you trying to explain one of the crappy rules of shapeshifting? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
::More wondering whether the Terminator 2 reference isn't written as clearly as it might be; I just found the line on Wikiquote: "It can't form complex machines. Guns and explosives have chemicals, moving parts. It doesn't work that way. But he can form solid metal shapes." So it looks like the "metal isn't a chemical" thing does come from T2, but I might tweak the article now I've found that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 22:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
If you turn into a machine gun you have turned into some thing with chemicals and moving parts.The reference doesn't make sense.--[[User:99.224.229.97|99.224.229.97]] 20:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

== A Paradox ==

Could the scene with 3 Strong Bads reference time travel movies with complicated rules and a character meeting his past self? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:11, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
: TTOAT [[User:Forddude1416|Forddude1416]] 18:05, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== G Reference ==

G-Mom is another reference to [[G]].--[[Special:Contributions/63.139.175.45|63.139.175.45]] 06:40, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== Spongebob Squarepants ==

Could Coach Z saying: "oh look a giraffe!" be a reference to the spongebob episode bubble stand where spongebob blew a bubble of an elephant, and Patrick replied with:
 '''Patrick:''' {guffaws} It's a giraffe {guffawing continuses} 
-pgj1997
:I think it's more likely just a joke on how similar balloon animals look (as referred to earlier in the toon with the poodle/donkey/tiger transformation). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 02:49, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
::Well there was a Spongebob Reference in "[[The Li'l Brudder Show]] presuming the TBC watches Spongebob. As seeing that they make other [[nickelodeon]] references as well.

== YOUR grandma, or MY grandma? ==

Alright, I noticed the phrase: "you can only turn into presents your grandma's knitted for you."

At the end of the SBemail, Strong Bad turned into a present that was knitted, but Hometsar recognized it as this scarf from his grandma, not Strong Bad's grandma... 'but you can only turn into presents your grandma knitted for YOU.'... explanation, anyone? [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]

Talk:Lookin at a Thing in a Bag

Jibblejibblejibble — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:04:21 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Splash Splash? */

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==Who Buys The Drinks?==
''Homestar and the bags seem to not be important to the Brothers Strong's scheme: Bubs donated the drinks and then showed up after Homestar saw him.''

Donated? I think you'll find Homestar bought the drinks, although it looks as if no money was exchanged, but that's just because everything seems free when bought from Bubs'. Well, that's how it looked to me... I suppose the above surreal suggestion could still be funny... in a way... --[[User:195.92.67.74|195.92.67.74]] 17:49, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I kinda doubt Bubs would ever really donate anything. He's more stingy than Moe (of Moe's Tavern on the Simpsons). - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 22:10, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

::Quoting Strong Bad (to Bubs): "Thanks for donating these drinks to our cause!" Also, no money is ever shown changing hands (okay, Homestar doesn't have visible hands, but you know what I mean). But the cool guys' plan makes no sense—Strong Bad obviously had set ''something'' up with Bubs ahead of Homestar's involvement, and then later Bubs arrives at the stick. ''Why not eliminate the bags altogether and just have Bubs bring the drinks over? What was Homestar's role supposed to be?'' I'm losing sleep over this. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:18, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Sewiously. But, I guess Homestar's involvement was to make it funny. And because they were thirsty. The Cheat, SB, and strong Mad have been known to do weird things when hungry. (example- The Jolly Dumple), maybe the same can be said about being thirsty.[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 19:49, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm gonna have to agree with Ukulele here, SB, SM, & Teh C seem to do alot of things to/with Homestar merely for their enjoyment and usually for no obvious reason. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}} 02:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I'm gonna have to agree with this guy above me. Maybe they did this just to embarass Homestar or waste his time. Maybe they shouldn't have let him see the bag, maybe they were planning on making him wonder what was in it.

==When Is An Email Not An Email?==
How is this short related to Strong Bad Email? The connection is not very obvious, unless you count the fact that it has Strong Bad in it, but lots of other toons have Strong Bad in them too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 07:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

This one came on a monday when there was supposed to be an email, if I'm correct. It's sort of not-an-email email. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 08:40, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

This toon was first linked on the email menu with a Post-it note that said "looking at a thing in a bag". So it was sort of a pseudo-email. [[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 11:23, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

:<s>Not-So-Light Orange-and-Pink-fruit</s> Dark Grapefruit here has a point. [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail_thinginthebag.html This], as well as [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemailteengirlsquad.html Teen Girl Squad 4], was featured on Denny's Menus. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}} 02:24, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== the greatest guy ==

i'm far too lazy to look it up, but i believe the "greatest guy" reference goes abck to an early strongbad quote. after executing some prank, strong bad sasy "truly, i am the greatest guy," or some such.

== T!T-V! ==
The page title (And TV) saying "T!T-V!Watch the TV show!" seems to me to be a reference to a popular cheer that goes "G!G-O!Go team Go!"Does it seem to be a reference to y'all?[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:36, 7 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:No. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::does to me. We should [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 20:54, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Ok, I finally remembered this conversation and stuffed it. Whether it lives remains to be seen... *lightning crackles* {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:31, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:Didn't live. *Points below* {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:42, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

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=== V! V-O! Vote in Stuff! ===
{{stufffact|The page title (And TV) saying "T! T-V! TV Show! Watch the TV show!" may be a reference to a popular cheer that goes "G! G-O! Go team Go!"}}
{{stuffverdict|17:22, 17 December 2005 (UTC)|03:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|11|3|Lookin at a Thing in a Bag}}

== Another Goof ==

[[Image:Stickgoof.PNG|200px|thumb|See? No fillets!]]
Coincidentally, this happens during 5 of the 7 frames that the stick is out of place. The fillet that is usually on the corners of the cartoons made by TBC is not on the side of the black sweeping line that the stick is also on. In other words, during the scene change, the black outline bar is filleted (like it should be) on the basement side of the change, but not the field side. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

== Commentary Commentary ==

I believe that the line from the commentary is a reference to Arrested Development, because prior to this line, Matt says, "It spells juice," which is a quote from Arrested Development. In another episode, the same character says, "This party is going to be off the hook," which is what Mike says. Regardless, I think it really sucks that you reverted my addition in nano-seconds. Thanks a lot, dude. [[User:Sallysitwell|Sallysitwell]]
:Well, the rest of that information was not provided. If it had been worded to include all of that, i wouldn't have just thought it was a common phrase. Feel free to put it back (preferable modified to reflect the whole reference), and sorry for the confusion. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
::Sally: What episodes are you referring to? I can't seem to find those quotes in the context of AD. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:29, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== Almost makes the drinks not worth it... ==

Strong Bad said a similar line at the end of a toon once before, in [[Secret Recipes]], could this be considered an inside reference?

:Secret recipes came later than Lookin. [[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 13:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::Considering that I have no idea what line you are talking about, and the fact that Flicky pointed out, I say case closed.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 13:23, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

== Splash Splash? ==

I have taken notice that when The Cheat and Strong Mad walk off the screen, the dirks they are holding stays in the cup, and does not move, like liquids should. Strong mad is actually moving his hand back and forth, so you expect to see it slash, or do something like that. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]
:It's a flash cartoon and TBC are not pedantic enough to write an entire physics engine in flash just so liquids will spill right. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:50, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
::Ah. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]

Talk:Lookin at a Thing in a Bag

Jibblejibblejibble — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:45:25 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/Splash Splash?

Talk:Jibblies 2

Jibblejibblejibble — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:44:25 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Marzipan is Unable to Battle? */

== 2 things ==
1. this is the first/ maybe 2nd time strong bad closes is eyes
2. strong bad breaks the 4th wall by refrencing the title of the toon
[[User:Foogs|Foogs.]] 22:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

::Not to mention by referring to Coach Z, the Poopsmith and the KOT as "characters." -invisible_map

==Stick Costume==
Does anyone know what [[The Stick]] was supposed to be dressed as? For some random reason, I'm thinking Donald Duck. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:nvm, just looked at the costume page. It's so fitting now! -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::The Stick is Lowly Worm. [[User:207.62.231.2|207.62.231.2]] 00:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I think that you think The Stick is Donald is because of Donald's Robin Hood get-up. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
::::Robin Hood was played by Daffy. Keep your ducks straight! --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 03:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::But why do Strong Bad and Homestar insult The Stick? Does it have something to do with the Lowly Worm get up?[[User:128.104.61.243|128.104.61.243]] 19:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I too would like to know why they both insult The Stick - I don't think there's a history of this? --[[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 16:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Not to reopen old discussions, but does anyone know the answer to this? I don't, so I think it's worth an explaination on the page [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== No Interactivity ==

Does anyone else believe this toon broke a tradition for h*r halloween specials? In 2001, they had that trick-or-treat game, in 2003, they had a brief scene making fun of the trick-or-treat game, and in 2005, they had a potion game. This would be the 1st h*r Halloween special out of the ones released in an odd-numbered year not to include interactivity other than the usual Easter Eggs. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:...Ummm, yeah. Odd numbered years. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:...Ummm, yeah. It's 2007.

I agree with Bad Bad Guy; where would I add it, though? the trivia section or the remarks section?

Ya and in every other ween toon also has a party of some sort, this one is actually like a cheesey horror movie!
:If I remember correctly, they had no Halloween parties in 2001, '05, or '06 either. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Not sure if this counts, but '02 DID have Kingio Bros. despite how un-gamelike it is. ([[User:Dynamite|Dynamite]] 03:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC))

== About the mirror ==

There have been mirrors like that before the release of the Man of the Year 2006 issue (I caught a glimpse of one in a movie when flipping channels). I think saying it is a reference to that exact issue is a bit of a stretch. [[User:207.119.175.50|207.119.175.50]] 00:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the mirror is a reference to an actual mirror of that type, similar to the one featured in The Big Lebowski. (The Dude peers into this mirror in The Big Lebowski's office.) [http://www.popamericana.com/!/Man%20of%20the%20Year.jpg Link] The "You" cover is too big of a stretch, especially when one of Pom-Pom's previous costumes was Walter Sobchak. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 01:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Big Lebowski - probably. Time magazine - no. It looks EXACTLY like the Big Lebowski mirror and NOTHING like the Time magazine cover. I remember you used to be able to buy those mirrors, a looong time ago. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 18:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Was Nikolai Volkoff ever on the cover of Time? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::No, but neither was The Dude. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of Lebowski or MOTY '06, it still refers to Time's Man of the Year practice, doesn't it? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:That's true, but as written right now, that's already linked to. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::The reference got edited all up with the "You" business, and then the whole thing got deleted. The Big Lebowski reference is so obvious (see my link above) that I had to put it back in. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Kids Choice Awards ==

When Marzipan says, "I don't know" and then the green slime oozes on her, that was a reference to the Nick Kids Choice Awards.-[[User:Ava|Ava]] 00:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, from what I've heard, the Nickolodeon slime tradition began on YCDTOTV. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 01:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Regardless of where Nickelodeon got that tradition, that's a *direct* reference to TCDTOTV, where saying "I don't know" would get you slimed. *remembers watching that show as a kid* -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yep, and as clicking on Ross calls on the scene, I'd say it's an homage to YCDTOTV. It isn't even the first reference to that show on this site. Surprised they didn't throw in a "water" gag too. [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 04:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::''{PlasticDiverGuy gets drenched with water}'' (Sorry, I couldn't resist. =P) -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Shower scene? ==

The following fact was STUFFed — let's see it can be resolved here first:
<blockquote>
Coach Z's shower scene is a reference to the famous shower scene in the horror movie Psycho.
</blockquote>
There was one vote and an argument against, from [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]: "I've seen the original Psycho and it's nothing alike it except they're in a shower." So, what do people think. Is this a reference or not, and why? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:17, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I think that the connection to Psycho is tenuous at best. Coach Z's scene did not feature several closeups of him being attacked, nor was there the trademark high pitched staccato strings. Those would be the strongest connections to the film. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think that Coach Z's line before getting attacked is a reference, not the attack itself. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 01:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Wbwolf, I think you're right — if it was a reference to ''Psycho'', they really would have used the trademark music. More likely, it's just a nod to the typical "shower scene" in horror movies (which originated with ''Psycho'', I think). So, mayhaps the fact could be modified to refer to the stereotypical scene, rather than this specific movie. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'd say this is more generally a reference to the fact that horror film starlettes are so often caught by the bad guy while in the shower. This is perhaps a subclause of the convention that the token hot chick will always die during or immediately following her topless scene. That being said, I don't think this warrants an explanatory note. [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 01:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Hey. I'm the guy who originally posted this fact. As soon as Coach Z said that "a pretty thing like him" would be perfectly safe in the shower, I knew that it was a reference to those horror movies in which the heroine dies. Psycho was just the first one to come to mind because it was so well known. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 02:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

==Classic Nick==

There's a classic Nickelodeon theme going.

The Stick: Lowly Worm from Busy World of Richard Scarry: early Nick Jr.

Strong Bad: Beetlejuice, from a cartoon on Nick

Homestar: Artie, from Pete & Pete which was on Nick in the 80s and 90s

Homsar: the Typewriter guy from Sesame Street, which was once on Nick

You Can't Do That On Television- on Nick in the 80s

[[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 01:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: Beetlejuice was not a cartoon that was exclusive to Nickelodeon, but ran on other outlets (including Cartoon Network) throughout the 1990s. I know Sesame Street is on Noggin, Nick/CTW's spin-off, but I don't think it was on Nick proper. Still, three references (two exclusive, since Richard Scarry was also a series of books) is pretty strong. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::What about The Cheat? Was Danger Mouse on Nick too? -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 01:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it was, as far as I can remember... back in the late '80s, early '90s, I believe. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

It was on TCC before Nick, however I like the fact that this is my most reconised costume episode so far. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Beetlejuice was on Nick in syndication in the 90s. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

==Marzipan's answering machine==
Have any of you noticed that the number of messages on Marzipan's answering machine is [[Wikipedia:Number of the Beast|666]]? Does that mean the jibblies would have affected everybody
until the're dead?-[[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]]
*I am under the impression it's just foreshadowing who the caller is... the number has demonic connotations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast and more specifically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast#Culture_and_psychology --[[User:70.106.82.44|70.106.82.44]] 03:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:It just means that the rocoulm or whatever has taken over the answering machine. Presumably it picking up the call possessed it -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 18:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
On a related note, do you think it's worth mentioning that 666 appeared in [[Jibblies 2 Teaser|the teaser]] for this toon in the form of the running time as seen in the Toons MEnu? (On an UNrelated note, is anybody besides me a Kirbyfan? XD) {{User:Neox/sig}} 00:21, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

== MArzipan's guitar ==

Hey did anyone else notice that marzipan's guitar only has five strings?

:Didn't notice it. Her guitar looks like an Edwards PR-100 made by ESP though. (Search "EDWARDS by ESP PR-100" on Google and click the eBay link to see pictures)

== Hammakers Slammakers? ==

I believe that the store when StrongBad tried to find a Xenomorph costume is supposed to be combination of Hammacher Schlemmer, a catalog store for high-end, luxery gifts (like The Sharper Image) and ''Hammer's Slammers'', a series of military science fiction novels and short stories by David Drake.
:Only the first one, as the second one doesn't fit at all. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== "Human Grate on my nerves" ==

*It sounds like "Human Gettin' on my nerves" to me. Which doesn't make any sense, but that's par for the course, really. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
**I hear grate. As in grating nerves. --[[User:70.106.82.44|70.106.82.44]] 14:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
***Geez, 0 for two. :( [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 23:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad smiling ==

*Is he smiling? I think the curve of the Beetlejuice teeth make it ''look'' as though he's smiling, but if you look closer it's his usual face. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: Yes. The whole toon. Follow the contours of his mouth. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Well blow me down, so he is. :/ [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, he goes back to his normal face right before he gets jibbilied. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:When you wear fake teeth, you wanna show 'em off! Ever see a little kid wearing them on Halloween? All wide grins and growls so you can see the teeth. lol. -- [[User:208.60.233.161|208.60.233.161]] 20:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::I thought that Strong Bad, being dressed up as Beetlejuice, was obligated to smile the entire time. {{User:Neox/sig}} 00:22, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

== misc ==

A) Does anyone notice anything...unusual...about the football trophy?
B) I don't hear Strong Sad saying "Xenomorph." I hear "Beatlemorph" or "Beatleborgs" or something, as if he's trying to say "Beatlejuice" three times.
--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 04:03, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: a) What football trophy? The [[golbol]] looks normal to me. b) Strong Sad is clearly saying "Xenomorph"; he's correcting Coach Z's generic use of the word "alien" (in the [[Jibblies 2 Teaser]], a silhouette of a Xenomorph costume is seen in place of Strong Bad.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think he means the football trophy in Strong Mad's room, but I didn't notice anything remarkable about it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar smiling? ==

I don't think I've ever witnessed this happen before. Did he ever have such a wide smile in any other cartoon?--[[User:75.62.6.158|75.62.6.158]] 04:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I believe the reason his smile is so wide in this cartoon is to portray his chin as the top of the paper in the typewriter as best as possible without cutting off the top of his head. - [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 06:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Volkov ==

Someone wrote under "goofs" that "Volkoff" is a misspelling of "Volkov." This is incorrect. Russian uses the Cyrillic alphabet, and there are a number of different ways of transliterating it into ours. I've seen final "v"s and final "ff"s used interchangeably all over the place -- for instance, "Prokofiev" vs. "Prokofieff," "Rachmaninov" vs. "Rachmaninoff." The "v" is the preferred transliteration in academic/linguistic contexts, but in everday use, they're both pretty common. In fact, the Wikipedia article calls him "Volkoff." -invisible_map

: Oops, I watched the toon again, and TBC spell it "Volkov," so I must have misread the "goofs" section. Either way, though, they're both acceptable spellings.

:Transliteration from the Russian alphabet really isn't the issue though. If Strong Mad is meant to be the former WWE wrestler Nikolai Volkoff, the Brothers Chaps made a spelling mistake, since the name has always been Volkoff in English. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 13:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

:: Traditional spellings of names from languages with different writing systems are sometimes changed to more accurately reflect the pronunciation. For instance, "Mao Tse-Tung" is usually spelled "Mao Zedong" now. Sometimes the old spelling is so well-known that change is slow to catch on -- for instance, people almost always write "Lao-Tzu" for the Daoist/Taoist philosopher, even though "Laozi" is the preferred spelling among people who study this stuff. Same thing with "Prokofiev" (which has totally displaced "Prokofieff" vs. "Rachmaninov" (which is still less common than "Rachmaninoff"). Here's my point: even if "Volkoff" is the traditional and more common spelling, "Volkov" is not *wrong*. In fact, it's probably closer to the way it actually sounds in Russian (though I'd want to ask a Russian-speaker to verify that). And "Nikolai Volkov" gets 11,000 hits on Google.

:::Yes, I know what transliteration is. The point is, despite its appearance, the name "Nikolai Volkoff", as relates to the former pro wrestler, was never in the Russian alphabet. It was devised in English. It was flashed on screen before every one of his matches. Therefore, *for this case*, "Nikolai Volkoff" is correct, and "Nikolai Volkov" is wrong. If we were dealing with a name devised in a non English alphabet we were transliterating, then what you were saying would be correct. We are not. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 19:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Re "I know what transliteration is": I'm sorry if you thought I was being patronizing. I wasn't trying to explain what transliteration was -- I was talking about how it changes historically, which you didn't seem to be taking into account. But I didn't realize that "Nikolai Volkoff" wasn't his real name until now. Since he totally made it up, you're right. Never mind!

:::::Even if a name changes historically, if we're dealing with people who have made their own transition from another alphabet to ours, they are the ones who are picking how the transliteration occurs. Suppose Nikolai Volkoff was his real name. Or even that his family had a few generations in this alphabet using the Volkoff spelling. It'd be the height of arrogance to tell them that Volkov is also a correct spelling. My last name is Hines, from the German. It comes from very similar roots as Heinz, and there isn't the transliteration problem, but Hines is correct and Heinz is wrong. Simple as that. Now for people whose name was never transliterated (such as Genghis/Chingiz Khan), then, yes, you have a point. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 23:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm a Russian speaker, and I can tell you that the Russian "v" (or "в" in cyrillic) is often "de-voiced" -- that is, it sounds like an "f." However, it's still spelled the same in cyrillic. Therefore, although the "f" sound might be closer to the actual Russian pronunciation, for consistency's sake, I would normally spell it with a "v," since most English speakers probably will not know when or how to use the "de-voiced" spelling. However, a lot of Russian names are traditionally romanized with "ff" (such as Rachmaninoff) so it gets a bit confusing. Your best bet is to put down the most widely-used one.

On a similar note, I've put a more-correct definition and pronunciation of the word "русский" (roughly pronounced "rooski") on the section with the slang term for Russians ("Russkie"). (This was before I created my account a minute or so ago.) [[User:Graymornings|Graymornings]] 16:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== 2 Forum Topics ==

<s>Would it be better for us to link to [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=12733
the forum topic] that started 1st or [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=12732 the forum topic] with more replies? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 12:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)</s>
:I just found out the 1 created 1st ''was'' the 1 with more replies. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Creep...wha? ==
{{Audio|Creep.ogg|Listen to the (filtered) quote}}

The transcript has "creep-take", the subtitles have "creep-cake". Sounds to me like Homestar's saying "creepsake" as a pun on keepsake. [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 16:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:It's Creepstakes. Like Sweepstakes. -- [[User:208.60.233.69|208.60.233.69]] 17:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Whereas I heard it as Creepcakes. Like cupcakes. Or crabcakes. This could go on forever! [[User:83.67.65.98|83.67.65.98]] 23:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::It's distinctly "Creep-take". There are no audible S sounds anywhere in the vicinity of that word. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::It's Creep-stakes. Remember Homestar's lisp, and listen closer. Think - Creep-take makes no sense. Creep-stakes is a portmaneu. I've watched it multiple times with headphones, etc. It's creep-stakes. I'm putting it back since it's ... you know ... correct. -- [[User:208.60.233.43|208.60.233.43]] 22:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Homestar doesn't have a lisp; he has trouble with his awws. Er, R's. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I've heard creep-take ever since the first viewing. Now after focusing on it, I give creep-take my vote of confidence. I give creep-cake an understandable interpretation. Creep-s[t]ake doesn't cut it. Note: ''Get headphones!'' Props to 208.60.233.43 for mentioning that you listened to it with them, but I think your reasoning is flawed by saying Homestar has a lisp. I also think that your headphones or brain is putting to much emphasis on the white-noise feature created around the hard consonants T and K by the reduced sound quality. Perhaps try to "trick" your brain into thinking that it's "take" and see if you can hear it then. You can practice with the ''I think you're cute / I hate your shoes'' line in [[disconnected]]. I'm able to hear it both ways there, but I can't do it with take/stakes. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:Creep-take is what it sounds most like, but it could easily be creepcake and for portmanteaus it makes more sense. So, how do we list this on [[portmanteaus]]? Or do we? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::No, we don't, because you just said it sounds like creeptake. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::If we can reach a concesus well enough to put it in this article (unlike the ''I think you're cute / I hate your shoes'' debate you brought up), I think we can safely use the concesus to extend this term to the portmanteaus page. Anyway, more and more it seems (to me) that "creepcake" is what it is. The whole cupcake vs. crabcake question leaves me in doubt, though. I lean toward cupcake, since it's more likely a play on a term of endearment and "crabcake" ain't a term of endearment. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I hear creeptake. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Still hearing that myself. I know I've also heard Strong Bad use the phrase "crap-take", but I can't find it. It's part of my point anyway, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

'''CREEP TAKE doesn't make any SENSE''' as a Homestar line OR a Brothers Chaps line. It is ''nothing''. Creepstakes is Sweepstakes with a "Cr" and it's definitely not "cake" what is wrong with this wiki?? -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:Annnd where does it say that H*R has to make any sense? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with this guy. It definitely sounds like Creepstakes, i.e. Sweepstakes with a Cr.[[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::Again, there are no Ss anywhere near the pronounciation of the word. It's take. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I also vote for Creep-take. I can't hear an S anywhere in the word, especially not at the end. If anything, it might be "creepstake" but I really don't think that's it. ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 04:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC))
::::Like the OP said, though, Creep-take doens't have any logical explanation that anyone has offered. Maybe it's Creepskate, like cheapskate. How do you sign posts?[[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Why does there NEED to be any logic to it? It's Homestar Runner. (And you can sign posts by typing 4 tildes, or <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for that. Anyway, it just seems like there must be a rationale for the construction Homestar uses. And I just listened to it again and I still here the S's, especially at the end. But alas. [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Speakers? Headphones? Did you try using the listening method I described to see why the other side thinks they hear what they hear? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

As of right now,
* Take: BazookaJoe, DorianGray, Heimstern, Some kind of scientist, (Jay), OptimisticFool
* Cake: <s>OptimisticFool</s>, 83.67.65.98, (Jay)
* Stake(s): 208.60.233.XX, 134.174.140.208
* Sake: TTEchidna

Did I miss anybody? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:Sorry I'm late to the party, but I was just re-watching last year's toon, [[Happy Hallow-day]], and noticed that when The Goblin appears, Strong Bad says "What's this crap-take?" Perhaps Homestar's "creep-take" is a reference? — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 20:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::I changed my vote (back) to creep-take. As much as I'd like it to be a portmanteau of creep and cupcake, it just isn't. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 21:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I listened to the audio at the voice studio where I do occasional voice-overs for anime, I'm not going to say "ZOMG THEY HAS THE BEST SOUND EQUIPMENT EVAR" but it's easy for them to digitall record, isolate, enhance, etc. Homestar is saying "Creep-Stakes", but the "s" sounds are hard to hear because of his special way of talking (Not a lisp, but if you listen to how he speaks, he says "S" differently than what one would consider "normal" along with the fact that the line is delivered quickly. Once and for all, it's definitely "Creepstakes". I'll e-mail TBC and see if they reply on this subject if you guys keep pressing it based on your personal opinion rather than what's on the audio. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:Feel free, but knock it off with the assumptions of bad faith. We do hear "creep-take"; it's not an attempt to push our opinions off on the article, and the fact that you are convinced we are wrong does not make it so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::Anony, will you provide us with an enhanced audio file, since you went to the trouble..? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Haha. Sure. Next time I'm in the studio I'll see if I can get them to load the site ''again'', enhance the audio ''again'', and put the file on a disk for me. That is, if TBC don't reply before the next session I'm hired for. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::::That'd be great, thanks. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:57, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'm not assuming bad faith, you are by reverting the correct info. I've given nothing but rock-solid evidence in the form of the quote not making sense, meaning nothing, and having no relation to any work past or present that TBC have done - and you basically have the support of a handful of people who looked at this page. (And not even ALL the people who did.) If someone came along and edited "Hey, Homestar!" to "Play, Romroar!" because that's what they 'heard' another character say, you'd revert it for being obviously wrong, correct? Well, you guys are doing that. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Clearly, it is not "obviously wrong" if several people hear it that way and only a few hear it the other way. You comparison is invalid. Furthermore, your argument that this quote makes no sense is hardly convincing: "creepstake" makes no more sense in the context than "creep-take" does. Frankly, anonny, you could afford to consider that possibility ''you'' might be wrong on this. And even if you're not, it's only a wiki about dumb animal characters. If we get one letter wrong, it's not going to hurt anyone. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::::It's obviously wrong because Creep-take is nothing and Creepstakes is a portmaneu of Creep and Sweepstakes. Creepstakes makes more sense than Creep-take, and there's no two ways about that. I'm sorry, but you can't say Creepstakes makes no sense as it's a portmaneu, which TBC famously include all the time. Getting 'two' letters wrong won't hurt anyone - except for the site's correct contents and the script TBC worked on. '''I've e-mailed TBC on this''' and hopefully they'll get back to me. When they do, I wholly expect you guys to debate TBC's own reply! lol! -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 21:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

After a rehearing, I am not entirely convinced it is "creep-take": there is a sound that might be an S in there. But I am far from convinced that it actually is "creepstake". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:Thank you for rehearing. It makes all the difference, doesn't it? Whew, glad to see this, thank you. (and yeah we may not agree but thanks for questioning 'creep-take') -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 21:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I hear "creepcake", and that also makes the most sense to me, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

:Using Cool Edit Pro, I applied two filters: Doppler Shifter (Ambulance), then Normalize. I didn't expect the first filter to do anything helpful, but it seems to be clearer, and Normalize brought the volume back up since the first filter dropped it a bit. I hope this helps. If not, I tried. {{User:TheGirl/sig}} 02:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::{{Audio|Creep.ogg|Listen to the (filtered) quote}}
:::I must conceed that the filtered version sounds like either creepcake or creeptake, rather than creepstakes... sadness : ( sorry other anony [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 03:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

== Length ==
I saw on the "Teaser Page" (Link leads to specific page, look under "Toon Title" at about the middle.) [[Talk:Jibblies 2 Teaser]] that this toon would "be amazing" if it exceeded 6 minutes. Is that important? Because I didn't see anything under Remarks about the toon being 6:44 and if it that was important to the original poster, would it have any relevance in the Remarks section of the information? Thanks [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 16:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: I don't suppose its 7:06 if u include homsar's scene or anything, is it? -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 18:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe you're referring to me, Stinkoblade? I didn't say it would be "amazing" .. I used the words "nice" and "great". Anyway, running time is listed above the transcript, no sense posting a remark about it below the transcript. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I didn't remember exact words. I can understand that now, but what about like it is on SBEmails where it mentions longest or longest until another came out. That is what I was asking about when I wrote this.
According to the Toons menu, this is the longest Holiday toon to date, can this be important now? [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 13:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Clickable button ==

In the answering machine scene, the right button on the machine is clickable. I was thinking maybe it would yield an Easter Egg, but no. Can any of the Flash-knowledgeable advise whether that's just because they recycled a Flash file, or is this noteworthy? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'm no expert, but I'm gonna assume it's because they recycled a Flash file. Nothing happens when you click it except it messes up the scene, effectively ruling out it being an Easter Egg, and recall that TBC have made these kind of mistakes before, primarily with the VCR and the Tandy and Compy's contrast buttons. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Um, I just cleared my cache so I could see the "new" version with the KOT and Poopsmith easter eggs, and now I can't click the button, so I'll assume it's fixed and note it on the page.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, that more or less confirms that it was just a glitch/flash artifact, at least. -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad ==

Should it be remarked that Strong Sad's eyes would be behind his fat kid mask, in comparison to his mouth? Or that it's odd that it's a white face, as opposed to a flesh-colored one? Heck, he pretty much just has a different head. Like the KOT when he dressed up as the mayor of Halloween Town. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 18:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:actually, the KOT still had his own head, he just had the mayor's facial features stuck/painted on [[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 23:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, not to mention he had a face on the other side of his head. So....is this a good remark then? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

==Title Card==

The title card is holographic/3D. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:No it's not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

It looks a little holographic, but it's probably just a random grindhouse-y effect. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jibblied Bubs ==

The way Bubs said "uh, jibblies" reminded me of Homestar saying "uh, crapface" instead of kicking the Cheat in [[replacement]], but that's probably a coincidence. Want to see if anyone saw it too. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 23:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I thought of that too. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== Where We're Going We Don't Need Rides ==

Is it possible the reason they decided to dress the Poopsmith as Doc Brown was because the Back to the Future ride closed this year? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:That sounds a little extreme... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 00:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd say it's about as likely as them using him on The Poopsmith because he's Doc BROWN. --[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 02:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== Electric Cacodemon ==

Did anyone notice the electrical noises coming from the jibblied Pom Pom? Or is that just another addition with the fixed glitches? -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== The TIME Mirror ==

I understand the Big Lebowski idea, but could the mirror also be a reference to when Time named "You" Person of the Year and had a mirror on the cover? I added it just to be safe, even though it might drive the mirror into TTATOT territory.
:See [[Talk:Jibblies 2#About the mirror]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:That comment had already been made, and removed. Personally, I don't think the "You" cover of Time magazine is a strong enough reference to be noteworthy. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== Razor blade apples ==

I think that the razor blade apples could be a reference to the "I Luv Halloween" comic book.
where the characters put razor blades in an apple, give it to a policeman and then frame the old woman who gave it to them on Halloween.
:The razor-blade apple urban myth certainly predates the 2005 comic book. Given the nature of that book (going by what I read over at Wikipedia), I seriously doubt it's something TBC would reference directly anyway. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
It's the [http://www.snopes.com/horrors/mayhem/needles.asp Urban Legend]. 100%. --[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 04:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== WhoDonkis ==

Y'know, I really don't think Homestar is saying, "The Donkis must be stopped!" It sounds a lot more like Poodonkis/Pudonkis. I know, I'm just as confused as you are when it comes to the name, but it's definitely not ''The'' Donkis. This leads me to believe that "Who? Donkis is behind all this?" is not correct either. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I heard this myself. It's definitely not just "Donkis". It does, at least, begin with an "oo" sound. Oodonkis. Udonkis? The tag only reads "onkis", so it's hard to say what it is. C'mon, TBC! Show some sketches or a quote of the week that'll clear this up for us! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think I get what you're saying, but the thing's name is on its tag and there doesn't seem to be much space for more letters. (If it IS something other than "Donkis", expect a QoW or something.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Upon pulling out my headphones to check another line, I noticed that... you're absolutely right. There's a clear consonant (I think a "P") and "oo" sound both times Homestar says the dino's name. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Let's go with Pudonkis as a good guess of spelling. Fine with everybody? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::'Swhat I hear, too. I think it's a portmanteau of Donkis and the [[Wikipedia:Pudong|Pudong]] district of Shanghai. (Not really, but hey, crackpot theories are better than none, right?) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::The first time I swear he says "Cute Donkis," but the second time is so not clear. [[User:Kevinchai|Kevinchai]] 21:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I changed my mind, it actually is Pudonkis.
:::::::It has to be Pudonkis. I almost moved the page, but wasn't sure this is "case closed" yet.. when it is, someone else can move [[Donkis]] to [[Pudonkis]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:41, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I think, at this point, the only real question is the spelling (it could be "Poodonkis".) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I think that the name is Donkis, and Homestar has a habit of forgetting names and words, so it comes later as Pudonkis. In 50 e-mails, he forgot the word "deleted". In looking old, he called Homsar "Homestar."[[User:StrongBadFan99998|StrongBadFan99998]] 04:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I myself thought his name was Drew Donkis, before I read the transcript. Then it said "Who, Donkis is behind all this?". But now it says "Pudonkis is behind all this?". I am still thinking that his name is Drew Donkis. Why? it's [[Strong Mad|Strong Mad's]]. What does that have to do with anthing? Because in [[the facts|the facts]], Strong Mad named his claymation dinosaur [[Doug the dino|Doug the dino]]. [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] [[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]] [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] 7:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::What does doug have to do with anything? It's a different name. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Strong Mad acts like a little kid sometimes. And what do little kid's do but name stuffed animals stuff like "Benny" or "Johnny". Doug the dino and Drew Donkis might be Strong Mad's names for his dinosaurs.
::::::::::[[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] [[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]] [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] 7:53 PM, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

:This week's [[Quote of the Week]] confirms it. It's spelled Poodonkis.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::Off topic but wiki related: Do TBC specifically tailor their quotes to clear up ambiguities on the wiki?? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Sometimes it sure looks that way, though of course this is over a month overdue for clearing up this one. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

On a Poodonkis related note since on his page this is called his debut should he be listed in the cast? --[[User:Nogain|Nogain]] 17:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:No, since Poodonkis is an item. Items have Debuts listed on their pages, but are not part of the cast. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::O.K. thanks for clearing that up [[User:Nogain|Nogain]] 20:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== 1984 ==

Ok. This is big. Follow me here. At the beginning and ending of the cartoon is the pumpkin card with the Roman numeral "23" under it. OK, this is because the deck only has 22 cards...BUT...23 years ago...was 1984. I realize that it was pointed out above that there's a Nickelodeon connection. OK. There's a MASSIVE 1984 connection.

In 1984 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Volkoff#Career Volkoff Teamed up with the Iron Sheik.] 
In 1984 the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Can%27t_Do_That_On_Television#Nickelodeon top rated children's show in America was ''You Can't Do That On Television''] 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_To_The_Future ''Back to the Future'' was 1985]...ok...that's close...and...time travel...off by a year. Also, in 1984, John De Lorean's cars faced tremendous problems as he was arrested for coke. Remeber, in the movie... 
So So Def was founded by Jermaine Dupree in [http://www.musicianguide.com/biographies/1608004503/Jermaine-Dupri.html 1984.] 
In 1984 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Jackson Jesse Jackson] ran for president, not Sharpton, even though today they are generally said in the same breath. HOWEVER, Sharpton [http://www.answers.com/topic/al-sharpton first received national attention in 1984] for leading public outcry against the relaxed treatment towards [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Goetz Bernard Goetz] 
Richard Scarry wrote five books in 1984; [http://www.amazon.com/Richard-Scarrys-Busy-Learn-Book/dp/0307155404/ref=sr_1_449/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-449 ''Busy Fun and Learn Book''], [http://www.amazon.com/Pig-Will-Wont-Manners-Knee-High/dp/0394865855/ref=sr_1_452/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-452 ''Pig Will and Pig Won't''], [http://www.amazon.com/Meet-Animals-Scarry-Word-Book/dp/0600389731/ref=sr_1_453/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-453 ''Meet the Animals''], [http://www.amazon.com/Holiday-Scarry-Word-Book/dp/060038974X/ref=sr_1_454/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-454 ''On Holiday''], and finally most significantly...[http://www.amazon.com/Lowly-Worms-Bath-Richard-Scarry/dp/0394868382/ref=sr_1_451/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-451 ''Lowly Worm's Bath''] 
I don't know that much about Cacodemons. In 1984 [http://www.amazon.ca/Cacodemon-roi-B-Chartreux/dp/2853760456 ''Cacodemon Roi''] was written, and the [third version of D&D was in late 1983, which apparently uses these things. 
In the 1980's ''The Far Side'' was huge, and the first [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780836220629 ''Far Side Gallery''] was published. 
Prince's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Rain_%28album%29 ''Purple Rain''] was writen in 1984. 
''Dangermouse'' first hit the States on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DangerMouse June 4, 1984.] 
The noony noony typewriter from Sesame Street...the famous [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Hooper death of Mr. Hooper Episode] was Thanksgiving of 1983 (almost '84.) 
The last two are kind of stretches. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_and_Pete ''Pete and Pete''] didn't start until 1993, and the character of Andy was created for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Shame_Theatre No Shame Theater] which started in '86, BUT...ok...the show, Pete and Pete, their Theme Song was written by Polaris...which was founded in ...everybody? [http://www.cannit.com/polaris/polarisbiography.htm Yes, 1984.] 
Then there's Strong Bad. The Xenomorph makes more sense here. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28film%29 ''Alien''] was made in '79, but the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28video_game%29 video game was made in 1984.] In addition, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridley_Scott Riddley Scott,] who made Alien, made the very famous [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_(television_commercial) 1984 Apple\Macintosh commercial]. 
Beetlejuice however...Beetlejuice was 1989...Ghostbusters was '84, and some sites seem to have that confused ([http://www.cinemetrics.lv/saltdb.php A], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-53635650.html%3Frefid%3Dgg_x_02&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNE-PwwBX5WjqAcTWwce_JcmZSuHcQ B], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-53635746.html%3Frefid%3Dgg_x_02&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=2&usg=AFQjCNGQgg1-r9FPvhI6NlAEunsNKsNKmg C], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.newspaperarchive.com/newspapers1/na0025/2908843/15884356.html&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=3&usg=AFQjCNHrE8oDQcvN264Cr5IPDIAngQpQAQ D,] [http://www.20minutos.es/cine/cartelera/interprete/2404/2/ E])...Keaton was in Johnny Dangerously in 1984...and Burton made Frankenweenie in 1984...''Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy's'' ''So Long and Thanks For All The Fish'' was written in 1984, and Ford Prefect was from the vacinity of Betelgeuse...but ok, on this one...it's a stretch. Maybe because he's Strong Sad's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_%28Nineteen_Eighty-Four%29 Big Brother]. Not sure. 
 
But...two more quotes....One from Homestar..."Brother called up Marzipan right before I ran into you." Not Big Brother? Maybe...but...from the book ''1984''..."It was bliss, it was eternity."
--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 05:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

:I don't know. Most of these seem to be waaay too much of a stretch to be in the main article. Alien Video game? Okay, a Lowly Worm book was published in 1984, but the character was created long before that. Mr. Hooper's death and the Back to the Future movie are NOT 1984 references, and close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades... {{unsigned|220.19.16.13|06:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)}}

::I have to agree — I think the connections are a quite a stretch. Probably the only reason that there's some connection to 1984 in some of them is that TBC tend to reference things from the '80s. I'm going to remove the info from the article for now (the info I removed can be seen {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Jibblies_2&diff=511747&oldid=511741 here}}). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

::: But wait, you forgot a reference. XXIII represents 23, right? Well 23 is also the name of a movie made in '07 about the number 23 being numerologically connected to everything. So much so that Jim Carry goes crazy trying to convince everyone of the meaningless connections, and torches his career. CREEPY, hunh? :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 01:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Some are more firm than others. Prince's biggest work was Purple Rain. That's 1984. That's firm. Dangermouse started here in '84. The wrestler became huge in '84. (You have to understand, the teamup wasn't just a "sporting event," it was a rather noted infamous move, they combined a "Russian" and an "Arab" into one "Evil team," that's why he's remembered. Sharpton literally first hit headlines...Farside's first gallery...YCDTOT, in 1984, it was THE #1 show amoung children, that year, and only that year. So So Def started in '84. I mean the rest are iffy, but that's not enough to raise an eyebrow, given the XXIII, seriously? Plus, the 1983 ones, they were all post Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas, so they were also both "XXIII" years ago, so yeah, that is close enough outside of both horseshoes, and handgrenades--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 11:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC).
:I'm not into elaborate conspiracy theories. This is what Homestar would call a coinkydink. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::(he would?) [[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 23:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::OK, so Homestar would say, "Yeah, yeah, you're pwobabwy wight." But everybody else would say it's a coincidence. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 04:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::(Yes I'm about a year late, but if TBC really HAD intended for us to find out they did mean for all of those things to be linked in some crazy criptic way? Pretty genius. And awesome. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 18:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC))

== Fhqwhgads ==

I noticed when the painting is about to jibblie Strong Bad, he says his normal "Come on in here!" However, he says the first "come on" like in the song "Everybody to the Limit."

Confirm?
--[[User:144.80.83.157|144.80.83.157]] 18:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I think he's just trying to emphasize the "come on", and add a little suspense. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 18:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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I think it's a reference.([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC))
:I'm not convinced. It sounds to me more like simply adding pauses between the words. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's a reference. The sudden drop out of the background music seems to give special focus to the words, and the Rocoulm has definitely used other character references - like Marzipan's answering machine and showing up in the midst of Strong Sad's nerdiness. ([[User:Meltingemail|Meltingemail]] 03:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC))
i can listen to opening part of song in my head and mix with roculm's "come on" and yeah that sounds exactly like it. prob still for the suspense though . [[User:Imdaman]]
== Horrible Painting Card Number ==

The Horrible Painting tarot card is numbered "II" which is the Roman numeral 2. This relates to the fact that this is "Jibblies 2". It's a very quick thing that belongs on the Trivia section as people most likely don't notice - and the Brothers Chaps did put that little touch in. '''Please stop removing it just because I'm not registered'''. I say that because it's valid trivia (As valid as what the tarot cards say on the back!) and yet it keeps getting removed when other stuff isn't. It's a true fact, and it's real trivia. So stop it. >:O -- [[User:208.60.233.43|208.60.233.43]] 22:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:Hmmm, but how do you know it's II because of the toon's title? Couldn't it be coincidence? It's really a guess, that's why it shouldn't be on there. Please don't be frustrated by this, it happens to all of us, even sysops. Keep on tranglin'!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::By the way, if you think people aren't taking your edits seriously because you're unregistered, you could [[Special:Userlogin|change that quickly]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::And the 666 on Marzipan's answering machine could be a coincidence. :D heh. Sorry to get so mad, but... It's crazy how wikis get to the point that people just lie in wait for something to delete. It's like writing "the sky is blue" in an article and someone says "You don't know that for sure" and removes it. -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Pretty Good, ..? ==
Horrible Painting says, "How's it going, man?" and Homestar responds: "Pretty good, ____________" .. how do we fill in the blank? "Creep-take"? That's what I hear; it sure doesn't sound like the recent change to "creep-stakes".. Neither makes sense, unless someone can explain it to me. Ideas? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
: Some poster said that Homestar has problems with the letter "S" as justification for "Creepstakes", but that's not true — "R" is the letter Homestar has problems with. I don't recall him ever having a problem with "S". I'm with either -cake or -take. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, maybe creepcake. As a portmanteau of creep and cupcake.. That could be. I say we stick with creepcake, unless we get a QOTW or something to contradict it. It makes the most sense.. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Hey, y'alls, perhaps you'd like to relocate your responses to [[#Creep...wha?]]. But please read our responses too! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Oops, sorry about that. I didn't read the whole page, and didn't see that convo as I skimmed the TOC. I should have done a Ctrl-F. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::No probalo. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Homestar does have a SLIGHT problem with "S", it sometimes comes out as a semi-lisp. -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Gibbliet ==

Who do so many think the KoT is saying "Giblet giblet giblet" when he's jibblified? There is an unmistakable long "E" sound and no trace of a "T". Yes, he says "giblet" a couple of lines earlier, but that doesn't mean it's what he says when he actually has the jibblies. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I listened to them one at a time; each time he is saying "giblet" .. Besides believing my ears, The KoT saying "giblet" is in-character hilarity. Makes perfect sense. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:: So why the long "E"s? He IS saying a long "E" sound each time, and he does NOT the one time he really says "giblet". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't hear long e's i hear "giblet" {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Listen with headphones. Keep the volume high-ish (not so high you blow out your ears, of course, but it helps.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:14, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::PS. I mean it helps to use headphones and turn up the volume.
:::::Sorry, Jay, I don't hear it either. Just "giblet" with a little schwa sound stuck between the syllables. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::ME TOO. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::How can I be the only person to hear it? No matter when I pause, no matter how closely I listen (in fact, the closer I listen, the better I hear it), no matter how many times, I ALWAYS hear the long "E" in the KoT's "Jibblie jibblie" bit. Every single time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I also hear "Jibblie"... but I can kinda almost hear "giblet" if I really try for it. The long E is cut a little short, the stop just before the J starts a little earlier than normal... which almost sounds like a "T" if I do the aural equivalent of tilting my head and squinting... but it's still definitely "Jibblie". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I hear a string of "giblet"s. I remember thinking so when I first saw the toon, and it sounded the same a few minutes ago when I listened again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Reference to a web comic? ==

I removed the so-called reference "Pudonkis the Dromiceiomimus stands in the same pose as the Dromiceiomimus from Dinosaur Comics." Now it's back, with the claim that the "author seems to think [it's a reference] (check out the news for 30 Oct)" .. ahem .. The author of a web comic assuming a reference does not make it so. [http://www.qwantz.com/archive/001095.html The Dromiceiomimus is the white one.] Opinions? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:The additional bit of information is that the particular strip I liked to has a H*R reference (namely [[Fhqwhgads]]). It seems highly likely that there is a little mutual appreciation, combined with a very parclulular pose and and an uncommon dinosaur which just happens to be part of the comic. To me, that seems more than just coincidence nor TTATOT. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::A dinosaur as obscure as a "dromiceiomimus", standing in the exact same pose that the character Dromiceiomimus stands in for every single episode of a very-popular webcomic (one which has even been referenced in a [http://www.fool.com/personal-finance/saving/2007/10/18/dont-save-like-tyrannosaurus-rex.aspx Motley Fool article]), which has previously slipped in references to H*R - I think this one is indisputable. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it certainly is disputable! But to me, it seems likely that this is a reference - solely based on SB saying the whole name instead of just "dinosaur". That's definitely a hint.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, the "parclulular" pose doesn't sell me, but once again I'm out of my element. I don't have an appreciation for web comics whatsoever and certainly wouldn't know which ones are popular. This one in "parclulular" doesn't appear to be entertaining in the least (granted, that's my opinion, but everyone's entitled to my opinion), so how could I know that it's popular? And popularity doesn't necessarily make it a reference, but if it's such a slam dunk, keep it. Whatever. Oh, and I don't mind saying that I don't know what a Motley Fool is, either. And don't waste keystrokes explaining it to me. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::It's a reference. Especially coming on the heels of the recent SBemail "Web Comics", which shows The Bros. know their, well, Web Comics. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 04:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:When have you ever even heard of a dromiceiomimus except in Dinosaur Comics? It's not like Pudonkis is a stegosaurus or a T-rex, or even a pachycephalosaurus or a dimetrodon. This is a seriously obscure species of dinosaur. The likelihood of TBC choosing it randomly, AND putting it in the same strange, awkward posture as that of the dromiceiomimus in Dinosaur Comics by sheer coincidence, is extremely low. Especially since it means they'd have to have never seen Dinosaur Comics before, and it's clear from [[web comics]] that they read at least a few web comics. -invisible_map

== Horrible Rocoulm ==

I think there should be better seperation between the terms Rocoulm and Horrible Painting. It's a little confusing in the transcript because the image on the tarot card is just of Rocoulm sans canvas, and when Homestar steps inside the painting, he's not inside Rocoulm himself. The way it's worded now has Homestar steping into the painting and then talking to the painting, from inside it's belly or something. The character's name is Rocoulm and the Horrible Painting is his domicile.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:The horrible painting itself doesn't talk, the subject of the painting does! So, I agree. Separate. It should read: "...the Horrible Painting approaches him from behind.} '''ROCOULM:''' Come on in heeeeeeere.... " etc. Any naysayers? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Thing is, despite how confidently it's stated on the Horrible Painting's page, we actually don't know the name of the subject of the painting - we just THINK it's Rocoulm because we don't know what else "Rocoulm" could mean. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well if we're going to state it so confidently somewhere else, shouldn't it be the same wiki-wide? Well, I don't think it's a big deal to call it Rocoulm, but if we can't, how about at least call it "Demon Holding a Tourch"? That would do just as well for cutting confusion.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 23:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::We could just call him the Horrible Painting Demon, eh?--[[User:Spirit-O-Saint-Loolie|Spirit-O-Saint-Loolie]]

== Marzipan's smile ==

Anyone else notice that Marzipan stops smiling during Homestar's easter egg for no adequately explored reason? Maybe she's still pissed off about what Homestar said to her during ''her'' easter egg, but that's an unusual disconnect.
:They probably forgot to change it, not after Marzipan's easter egg, but after Bubs'. She also stops smiling in The Poopsmith's and The King of Town's easter eggs, which were added later. {{User:Mee/sig}} 09:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Nightmare Before Christmas? ==
Looks like the odd colors inside the painting may be a reference to this black light scene in Nightmare Before Christmas. Anyone?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DnH_OJcpZYQ
*I think it's more a reference to the fact that it's a black light painting. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 02:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
*It was probably to match the cartoony style of the Horrible Painting. And I don't get the immediate connection to blacklight. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Holy Water? ==

When Strong Bad says he Needs Holy Water, It is a referance to Castlevania. - Toonypie
*No, it's not. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 02:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Holy Water is an old, old cliche associated with horror films, mainly vampire and werewolf films. Castlevania was only carrying on the tradition. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Inverted colors? ==

I don't think Homestar's colors are inverted when he's inside the Horrible Painting. If you copy paste an image of him in the Horrible Painting onto a program such as MS Paint, and invert the colors, Homestar does not go back to his regular colors. [[User:Thrashmeister|Thrashmeister]] 15:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
: You're right. The magenta-and-white stripes on Homestar's shirt would be green-and-black when inverted, and his yellow wig would be blue. Actually, Homestar's shirt is red-and-blue striped and his wig is brown. I removed the fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

== Person of the Year 2006 Reference ==

I really want to delete the reference to the time Magazine "You" cover, but it's gone back and forth several times already so there's obviously someone who thinks it's a noteworthy reference. (Can I request that it be STUFF'd?) -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 17:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:Seriously, why can't this be a double reference? I saw the screen cap you posted which convinced me of the Big Lebowski reference, but the nature of the 2006 Person of The Year cover makes it plausible as an additional reference. (We are talking about an internet cartoon show, after all— exactly the sort of content that the Time article was targeting.) It really does work either way. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 18:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::While your point regarding the "targeted content" is what I'd consider the most convincing argument so far for inclusion of PotY 06 as a reference, there just isn't enough in the toon to convince me that there's any relation. Examples of things that would be evidence of such: If it looked at all like the cover in question, if it said "Person of the Year", or "2006" or "You", if the mirror was all crinkly and distorted like the foil ones used for that issue, or if Strong Mad made a comment to the effect that "YOU ARE PERSON OF THE YEAR!" I will admit, however, that it really doesn't matter whether it's there or not - it's just a Wiki about a cartoon. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Agree with Father Ted. I don't think the "You" cover fits very well, especially since there's a much more obvious reference choice. I also think it's about time to STUFF this but a lot of people get touchy about that so I don't have the guts to start it.([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC))
::Nor do I. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I think the way the "Time" mirror fact is worded now (no Lebowski, no 2006 cover) seems to be best way. It gets at the base reference. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree, since it's now simply stating the obvious. Given the [[The Big Lebowski|history of references to the movie]], I think it's fair to say that it's a Big Lebowski reference. While Loafing claims the fact was "patently false" as written, probably based on the "exactly the same" wording, I figure it should read "...very similar to a mirror shown in the film..." I know I prompted a STUFF of the "You" cover, but here I'd be tempted to STUFF the Lebowski thing. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== CGA, not CMYK ==

I would question the link to the CMYK color model on the remark about Homestar in the painting...the colours are reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Color_Graphics_Adapter|CGA graphics]], a very old graphics standard, while images in the CMYK colour model have no particular affinity for the colours cyan, magenta, yellow, or black. --[[User:Danaris|Danaris]] 16:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree that CMYK doesn't really make sense in that context, but I wouldn't peg it as CGA, either. It appears to be more a "black light" color thing. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

== Meh! ==

As those of you who have been to my talk page (two or three of ya, probably) know, I pride myself in my fluency of a-da Cheeeat. I think I understand his lines while in [[The House of the Brothers Strong]], so I'm gonna go ahead and be '''bold''' and edit them into the commentary. If anyone has any problems with what I added, you know who to blame. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
:No, that's bad, we never put words into the cheat's mouth. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, new question. Do we have a style manual here? Because if we don't, we should add one. See [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Manual_of_style Wookieepedia] for a good example of another wiki's special rules.
::My point here is simply that we should add a rule that the Cheat's words are never added to his speech, unless we come to a decision that it's ''really, really'' clear, like that time in [[coloring]] when he said "Okay." --[[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 13:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:::[[HRWiki:Manual of Style|Yes, we have a manual of style]]. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 13:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::::But guys, The Cheat got the Jibblies. We should put down on the transcript that The Cheat starts making Jibblie-ish noises instead of saying he continues screaming. It really isn't putting words in his mouth. {{User:Neox/sig}} 16:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::I wouldn't object to a mention of "Jibblie-ish" noises, but I don't think the rest of it is necessary.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 21:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

== Killer Instinct music? ==

All right, being as though I'm a staff member of SNESMusic.org, I know a bit more about SNES music than is probably healthy.

A recent fun fact states that the music in the toon was "based on" music from Killer Instinct, but going by the existing SPC soundtrack, I'm gonna have to conclude one of two things... One, the SPC set is missing a song, or two, the fact is... well, wrong.

Either way, could whoever added that fact be a bit more specific? -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
:See [[Image:HR vs KI.ogg]] for a comparison. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

== Is That Come On In Here A Come On In Here? ==

I noticed that in the easter egg transcript, the "come on in here" is in the form of question . . . is it really? It didn't sound like the Horrible Painting was asking a question. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 23:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, but he sounds somewhat uncertain. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::No he doesn't. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes he does, listen real closely. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I did, and he doesn't, and going back and forth with "yes he did", "no he didn't" isn't going to help anyone, so unless you have something new to say, let's wait for some more opinions. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:It's very very clear that his inflexion goes up towards the end of the sentence. Very very clear evidence of a question. [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]]
::Yeah, sounds like a question to me, too. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Why would it be a question? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Because Homsar is well-known in the Homestar Runner universe for being an odd duck, even to the point where the horrible painting guy might be aware of it. It seems probable that he was nervous about even talking to Homsar, so in crept some doubt that led him to phrasing his "come on in here" in a way that it sounded like a question. And it turns out he was right to be nervous because Homsar ended up giving him the jibblies. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::'Xactly. I agrees with the Fool. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Not that I'm in disagreement or anything, if this is the case, I'm wondering why the Horrible Painting decided to let The Goblin in . . . but I'm pretty sure I'm thinking too hard about this. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 23:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::I, too, think it sounds like a question. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 17:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

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=== STUFF of the year ===
{{stufffact|The [[Wikipedia: Person of the Year|Time Magazine Person of the Year]] mirror that Strong Mad uses at the beginning of the cartoon refers to Time Magazine's "Person of the Year" award. '''It more specifically refers to the 2006 issue of the award, in which they chose to honor "You."'''}}
The vote was only on the part in '''bold'''.

{{stuffverdict|01:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)|02:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|10|0|Jibblies 2}}

== Costume name glitches ==

Has anybody noticed that when you click and hold somebody at the end, then drag your mouse to Homsar, the names overlap? Seems like something that should be put in the glitches section. [[User:Gollum999|Gollum999]] 05:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:That's not really a notable glitch... It's something very typical of Flash, I think. The Main Pages do that all the time. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::Well yeah, but its listed as a glitch in the main page section, right? [[User:Gollum999|Gollum999]] 16:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

==The LOADING==
Is this a possible reference to the Highlander II: The Quickening? They're making fun of sequel conventions, and Highlander II is a famously bad sequel. That's the first thing that sprung to mind when I saw the loading screen. --[[User:129.237.88.160|129.237.88.160]] 08:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think so. All the tarot cards in the toon begin with "The", and the one on the loading screen is no exception. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:24, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jibblies Page Unlinked? ==

This seems so obvious that I figure I'm simply overlooking it, but shouldn't [[Jibblies]] be linked somewhere in this article? -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

==Jibble Jibblies==
Looks like Homsar ''reflected'' the jibblies causing the [[Horrible Painting]] to get the jibblies. {{User:HAJ/sig}} 22:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
:To me, it appears that the Horrible Painting's jibblies had no effect, and Homsar responded with his ''own'' jibblies rays from his hat. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 23:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with the Reverend. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:35, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I agree with HAJ, But we never know like Sweet Cuppin' Cakes
::::This is all speculation. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

== Ushanka ==

Under Explanations:
*A [[Wikipedia:Ushanka|ushanka]] ... is a round fur hat, usually black, traditionally worn by Russian men. ...
Er... We're adding an explanation "fun fact" to explain something that only exists on the page because ''we'' used an obscure word in the transcript? Isn't that a little convoluted and self-indulgent? I'm going to take this out and simplify the transcript. If others feel strongly that this article needs to educate people about what a ushanka is, then put it in Remarks where it belongs. I generally expect Explanations to explain things that appeared the toon itself. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:Immediately reverted as "important". But why don't we explain that the thing around Sarducci Bad's neck is called a [[Wikipedia:Stole|stole]], and it's used in Roman Catholic vestments with various symbolic colors? (Oops! He's wearing red in the wrong season!) Or that the thing around Marziprince's neck is called a [http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/jabots jabot], and it was a common style in the 18th century?

:Because their only relevance to the toon is that they're duplicating the costumes of external characters. Once I know who each costume is supposed to be, details about why the originals dressed that way usually don't enhance my enjoyment of the toon. Especially when it boils down to something as mundane as, "Strong Mad wears a stereotypically Russian hat," when Nikolai Volkoff was obviously a stereotypical Russian character.

:On top of that, it makes the article hard to read when there's a word nobody knows listed in the Transcript with the explanation pages lower, and then a word nobody knows explained in the Fun Facts with no mention of it in the toon. Like I said, if it's really "important", put it in one spot: Remarks. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

::I'm inclined to agree with TheNicestGuy. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I can see both sides of this argument, but I agree with TheNicestGuy for leaving it colloquial in the transcript, and then putting\leaving the word and link to ushanka in Explanations. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 05:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Backup is nice, but someone will have to actually do the honors if we're satisfied. I loathe revert wars, so I make it a policy never to make the same edit twice. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

:The fact itself is kinda dubious, methinks, after looking at the wiki article. Ushanka doesn't translate to hat, shapka does, which is what it's called in English-speaking world (indeed, that's the only thing I've heard it called besides generic "Russian hat" and the like). I'd support the fact, (I do like the idea of having a more general term in the transcript), but I think it might need to be reworked. On a similar note, although the had SM wears is instantly recognizable as a stereotypical russian hat, it doesn't seem to have earflaps, which are apparently necessary to truly be a ushanka. Is this important? -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 16:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

::Why, yes. Yes it is. Take a look at [http://www.ganges.com/Dynamite_Kid_vs_Nikolai_Volkoff_Wrestling_Classic_1985_v1157022/ this video], which has a few close-ups of Volkoff in his hat. It's not a ushanka! It's sort of a... furry pillbox hat, no flaps. Which is exactly what Strong Mad wears too. Faithful piece of costume, nothing more. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== Giblets ==

Should we explain what giblets are? I doubt that very many people know what they are. Or is that not neccesary? [[User:TreeWithAChainsaw|TreeWithAChainsaw]] 22:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Seeing as we explain giblet gravy in [[more armies#Explanations|more armies]], I don't think it's too farfetched to add a fact explaining giblets. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Kind of adding ==

Kind of an addition to the answering machine thing, about the anti-Christ and 666, I was thinking we may want to add that to the article about it, so I'm kind of new here, and I need to know just where I would put it under, IF we want to add it that is. ([[User:Dynamite|Dynamite]] 03:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC))
:[[Jibblies 2#Explanations]] already has a link to a Wikipedia article about 666. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:21, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

== Football player ==

Since the football player on Strong Mad's dresser's jersey is blue and his number is 10, would that make him Eli Manning? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 23:54, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

== Homsar's line ==

I'm pretty sure Homsar says "I'm a touchy-feely Dalek" (as it's pronounced DAH-lek). It just jumped immediately on me as his costume also resembles the Daleks' cybernetic armour from the long running BBC science fiction TV series Doctor Who. It also gave me more giggles, as Daleks aren't actually very touchy-feely, being just mechanically bent on the extermination of all humans, having no feelings or remorse, just orders to kill. 20:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

:I hear what was placed in the subtitles. Phonetically haw-lik. [[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns]] also states "This response makes sense in reference to his costume, the "Noony Noony Noo" Typewriter Guy and can be interpreted as "I like using myself to type."" I agree with it. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 21:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::Now I agree with the "touchy-feely-holic" line, but I strongly recommend against using that Analysis page for discussions such as this (I recommend against having the page on the Wiki in the first place, but that's neither here nor there.) You can bend "touchy-feely Dalek" into the situation at hand too, as anonny did earlier. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Fast Forward: Mole people ==

Strong Bad talks about evolving into mole people, and mole people actually show up (unseen, but heard) in [[Homestar Ruiner]], playing a key role in progressing through the game (and providing the King of Town with a reason to get back at Strong Bad in the next episode).
:I thought about Homestar Ruiner when I saw this toon too (I played Homestar Ruiner before I saw it).--{{User:T3H_CH3K7_888/sig}} 18:07, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

== Possible reference? ==

Is it possible that the toon's title (Jibblies 2) and the joke about it not having a "first movie" is a reference to "Troll 2?" Troll 2 wasn't actually a sequel and had nothing to do with the original "Troll" movie, it just borrowed the name and added a 2.

==Coherent Response? Not These Days==

Strong Sad's quote, "Original in a horror movie? Not these days.", seems to be an odd response to Strong Bad's description of the toon. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 17:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
: He's making a joke about the fact that Strong Bad referred to a horror movie as "original", when the genre is known for copycats. What exactly are you trying to get at? We're not explaining the (really really obvious) joke in the article if that's what you're asking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:15, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan is Unable to Battle? ==

Ok, when Marzipan is having the Jibblies, and her eyes are swirled like that, should I put it in refrences that that type of eye use is from the Pokemon series? When a pokemon is unable to battle, their eyes become swirls, that are exactly identical to Marzipans! Thoughts? [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]
:Marzipan's eyes are spinning. From what I remember, Pokémon eyes remain perfectly still when they are swirled and unable to battle. Just adding a thought; not suggesting yes or no right now. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 03:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
::I knew Marzipan's eyes were spinning, but if you still shot a frame of her with the spinning eyes, and look at a photo of a pokemon unable to battle, the design is the same... or rather, very close to the same... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]

Talk:Jibblies 2

Jibblejibblejibble — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 01:51:41 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/Marzipan is Unable to Battle?

Talk:50 emails

Jibblejibblejibble — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 01:22:53 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Soolnds? */

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==Closed STUFF==

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=== What Is That Stupid Reference? ===
{{stufffact|When Strong Bad talks about the Great Leg and the Leg of Hope, he may be referring to the SNES RPG Secret of Mana. You can upgrade the Great Bow into the Bow of Hope. The leg of hope is also a lyric in the song [http://www.twin-music.com/lyrics_file/vf/vio/add.html Add It Up] by the [http://www.vfemmes.com/default.htm Violent Femmes].}}
{{stuffverdict|16:50, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)|03:46, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)|declined, 7–1. A revision was also declined|10|5|50 emails}}

== Beefeated ==
I rephrased the explanation of "Beefeater". This revision was soon undone, with the comment "No no no". Then this undoing was itself undone, with a comment saying my revision was clearer and easier to read. I'm certainly glad that someone concurs, but could I ask for the argument on the other side? What does the previous version have, that makes mine no no no improvement? [[User:Guyinypsi|Guyinypsi]] 19:41, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

== Flagrent System Error WHAT? ==

How do you know it says "screwed everything up good." instead of just "screwed everything up"? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

:A Flash decompiler. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:40, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Flagrant error ==

I was just wondering, did he get a flagrant error in [[virus]]? [[The 386]]
:Yes. (''psst...'' click on that link in your message and you'll see it in the transcript.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:30, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Name that ring ==

Okay, I'm pretty sure about this one, but I just wanted to check and make sure: Is it just me or is the ring of the phone (when Strong Bad gets the call during the Jess and Tiff email) the same as a standard [[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Microsoft Windows]] sound? Namely, ringin.wav. For me, it is located hereabouts: "file:///c:/Windows/Media/ringin.wav".[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:11, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:Definitely the same sound. Nice spot. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::For sure. Same pitch and everything. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:18, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== tongue of the fatman ==
I was screwing around with a Flash Decompiler and I found this. Is it anywhere in the e-mail? --[[User:Nathand42|Nathand42]] 03:35, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:That's the name of the game in the [[Floppy Disk Container]], I believe. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yep. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, that makes sense. I never notice those things. Thanks. --[[User:Nathand42|Nathand42]] 03:59, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Holy Crap, it's a real game. Awesome.--[[User:Nathand42|Nathand42]] 04:02, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, I've played it before. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:47, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

== Telegram ==

I don't think this is a goof:

''Telegrams are always typed in upper case. They also never use any punctuation, hence the word STOP at the end of each sentence.''

Later on, telegrams were able to use punctuation. The last sentence, however, would always end with an = sign.

See here for an example of this: [http://www.lileks.com/telegrams/2.html]

-- yeah, people just used "STOP" because four alphabetic letters were priced cheaper than one character of punctuation, so it was cheaper to say "STOP" than ".". Go figure. --Hixie

==Naruto Reference?==

Don't inflict serious pain upon me if this sounds stupid, but is the "believe it" in Homestar's attempts at deleted a reference to Naruto? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 13:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
:Nah, I think it's just him being H*R. Unless you can show me more context. I've only seen a dozen dozen episodes or so :P [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]] 02:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::Besides, the English dub of Naruto came out YEARS after this email. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 02:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Soolnds? ==

Hey, should we put something about a reference to soolnds in here? SB is clearly talking about selling SS's feet. [[User:Coveredinharmony|Sarah]] 02:08, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
** I am only saying something about this becuase it is a good point. No, becuase we found out SS called his feet soolnds AFTER this email. Way after this email. In the Lappy period. And, SB didn't mention soolnds, so, no. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]

== blue contrast glitch ==

I don't see this as a glitch. All the contrast buttons do is shade the monitor blue. If you lay blue over blue strangely enough it makes blue. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 12:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

== ointless-pay ==

Does the fact that strong bad says "mat" in pig latin really need to be explained? '''everyone''' speaks pig latin! [[user:haldo]]
:You'd be surprised at what some people don't know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:38, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

== Mike and Matt ==

*the first two email senders are name mike and matt.
This fact was recently added and quickly removed. I found it interesting, and did not notice this until now. Though it doesn't belong on the page, i didn't want it lost for the ages, so here it is, on the talk page for all eternity. (and not the kind of eternity that has an alarm... the real kind) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
: Sweet! I love eternity! ... ... ... ... Is it eternity yet? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::Hang on, I'd like to say something, despite being late to say it. Doesn't this count as a textbook case of Trivia/Remark use?
*Incidentily, the senders of the emails Strong Bad checks are named Mike and Matt, who share the first names of the creators of Homestar Runner.
::That is certainly worth a mention somewhere in the remarks. That's what that section is for, right? Weird stuff that is notable.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 02:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Wow, I'd never noticed this before. I highly doubt it's a coincidence and think it should go in the article. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:26, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I think it's speculation. We have no way to know if it was intended. If the other emails were from Karen, Missy, and so on, then we'd know for sure it's not a coincidence. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 07:16, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm narrowly with Elcool on this one. While I am aware that people tend to be [[Talk:First_Time_Here%3F#Do_you_know_Mike.3F|pretty sensitive to their own names]] (though it's not obvious at first sight, I'm actually involved in that discussion), the fact that this in not purely TBC-created content, but partly user-created, leaves me skeptical. Did Mike and Matt really go through looking for two emails from senders with the same names as their own? It's possible, but largely speculatory, and if they didn't do that, it's just a coincidence. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I think that's exactly what they did. The Chaps have said that Strong Bad gets hundreds if not thousands of emails a day (or he did in his prime, anyway). The names Mike and Matt are common enough that it would have been trivial to pick out emails with those senders. Keep in mind that, due to the nature of this Strong Bad Email, they weren't looking for the cream of the crop. The two email messages in question aren't even that good—just good enough for a one-liner response. I don't think it matters that there's no email from a Karen or a Missy. They're not [[:File:The creators.jpg|the creators]], after all. By the way, as worded, neither one of the proposed fun facts above is speculation at all. They're both patently true. The question is whether the article would be better if we included such a fact in the remarks. The answer is that yes, it would. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:30, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::That fact is true in the sense that it's not false - The names are right there. It's ''not true'' in the sense that we don't know for sure if it was intentional. What you wrote in your reply is a likely scenario, but we won't know for sure unless we ask TBC. In the past we declined to add many facts that seem to be true on the surface, but were just as speculative as this one. What so spacial here? I guess that for every Fun Fact we add to a page, we have a leap to make. Was it intentional? When it's a reference to some 80's cartoon, the leap is short. It's very likely intentional. (Sometimes we think the leap is short and we get it wrong. Like Family Guy) Believing, at least for me, that TBC will insert their own names to the email senders intentionally is a long leap to make. Now the question is am I in a minority here? {{User:Elcool/sig}} 06:00, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I'm finding this leap a hair too long to work with, as well. I'm quite willing to believe that it's possible that TBC did indeed dig through emails as I've mentioned above. Neither more nor less than possible, which is to say neither likely nor unlikely, and which doesn't seem to me to be enough for a good fact. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:16, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== This is another instance of Stong Bad. ==
Is this really necessary? After all, it is A: a Strong Bad Email, so of course it's an instance of Strong Bad. B: Strong Bad is referenced as being in the cartoon already in the header of the article. [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 17:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
:No. [[Stong Bad]] {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 17:39, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
::Like, without the r. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== "Open sesame" ==

I don't think Homestar using "open sesame" while rattling off possibilities for a word he can't remember is necessarily a Popeye reference... I know that Donald Norman's book, "The Design of Everyday Things," quotes from a version of the "Ali Baba" story where our hero's pursuers perish when their leader fails to remember the magical door's secret password, "Open Sesame," mangling it several times. (Norman meant to illustrate how difficult it is to remember arbitrary facts.) [[Special:Contributions/24.22.64.228|24.22.64.228]] 09:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. There's no actual indication why it should be a reference to that toon. It's a more or less common joke, too. [[TTATOT]], in my opinion.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::On a second thought, "open sesame" isn't even the magic word in this case, meaning the popeye reference isn't even plausible. I'll delete the fact without waiting for further input.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, there is the connection of mangling it several times, which homestar is doing, still i think it too vague to consider a reference unless TBC themselves say it is or something. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:12, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Baudot code. ==

<blockquote>In the Old-Timey Strong Bad Easter egg, Strong Bad ends his emails with the word "stop". Back when telegrams were used, most people used "stop" instead of a period, <s>due to the fact that most telegram systems used a 5 bit binary code known as Baudot to transmit letters, which leaves only 29 possible characters. Those 29 characters were the 26 uppercase letters, a space, a return, and a hyphen.</s></blockquote>

The Baudot code used 5 bits (which is 32 possible characters). ''Two'' of those characters where used as "shifts" (similarly to the shift key on your keyboard), indicating that the following codes indicated "figures" instead of "letters". That's 60 characters all together, although actually only 57 because ''space'', ''carriage return'' and ''line feed'' were the same in each shift mode. The code ''did contain'' a period (00111 in figure mode). See [http://home.austin.rr.com/kinghome/signpage/baudot.html Baudot code table]. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 04:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

== X ==

In the toon, The "This is real" paper has a box where Homestar has drawn an X in the top-right corner. Is there any way to put that here? I figured out a way to put an appropriate box directly underneath the "This is real", and also underneath it but center justified. Is there a way to put the X in the proper placement? I noticed there isn't an X on the examples in [[The System is Down]] or [[Not the 100th Email!!!]] either. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 06:02, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

== Start on the Right Side, and End on the Left? ==

I have noticed, In the Goofs section of the article, Where it has the image of all the words Homestar had typed trying to figure out the real word that Strong Bad said, the last word 'delcheated ended on the left side, correct? But if the last word had been typed on the left side, where it usually would end on the right side on a real computer, it got me there? Now, I am no computer technologist, but I am pretty sure, although that is NOT a new computer, and although it can type double sided apparently on a few DOS models, it does not type from right to left. So I am left all like, "Ehh?" help a sista get rid of a headache over here! [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]

Talk:50 emails

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:25:58 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/Start on the Right Side, and End on the Left?

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==Closed STUFF==

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=== What Is That Stupid Reference? ===
{{stufffact|When Strong Bad talks about the Great Leg and the Leg of Hope, he may be referring to the SNES RPG Secret of Mana. You can upgrade the Great Bow into the Bow of Hope. The leg of hope is also a lyric in the song [http://www.twin-music.com/lyrics_file/vf/vio/add.html Add It Up] by the [http://www.vfemmes.com/default.htm Violent Femmes].}}
{{stuffverdict|16:50, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)|03:46, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)|declined, 7–1. A revision was also declined|10|5|50 emails}}

== Beefeated ==
I rephrased the explanation of "Beefeater". This revision was soon undone, with the comment "No no no". Then this undoing was itself undone, with a comment saying my revision was clearer and easier to read. I'm certainly glad that someone concurs, but could I ask for the argument on the other side? What does the previous version have, that makes mine no no no improvement? [[User:Guyinypsi|Guyinypsi]] 19:41, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

== Flagrent System Error WHAT? ==

How do you know it says "screwed everything up good." instead of just "screwed everything up"? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

:A Flash decompiler. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:40, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Flagrant error ==

I was just wondering, did he get a flagrant error in [[virus]]? [[The 386]]
:Yes. (''psst...'' click on that link in your message and you'll see it in the transcript.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:30, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Name that ring ==

Okay, I'm pretty sure about this one, but I just wanted to check and make sure: Is it just me or is the ring of the phone (when Strong Bad gets the call during the Jess and Tiff email) the same as a standard [[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Microsoft Windows]] sound? Namely, ringin.wav. For me, it is located hereabouts: "file:///c:/Windows/Media/ringin.wav".[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:11, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:Definitely the same sound. Nice spot. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::For sure. Same pitch and everything. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:18, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== tongue of the fatman ==
I was screwing around with a Flash Decompiler and I found this. Is it anywhere in the e-mail? --[[User:Nathand42|Nathand42]] 03:35, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:That's the name of the game in the [[Floppy Disk Container]], I believe. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yep. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, that makes sense. I never notice those things. Thanks. --[[User:Nathand42|Nathand42]] 03:59, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Holy Crap, it's a real game. Awesome.--[[User:Nathand42|Nathand42]] 04:02, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, I've played it before. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:47, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

== Telegram ==

I don't think this is a goof:

''Telegrams are always typed in upper case. They also never use any punctuation, hence the word STOP at the end of each sentence.''

Later on, telegrams were able to use punctuation. The last sentence, however, would always end with an = sign.

See here for an example of this: [http://www.lileks.com/telegrams/2.html]

-- yeah, people just used "STOP" because four alphabetic letters were priced cheaper than one character of punctuation, so it was cheaper to say "STOP" than ".". Go figure. --Hixie

==Naruto Reference?==

Don't inflict serious pain upon me if this sounds stupid, but is the "believe it" in Homestar's attempts at deleted a reference to Naruto? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 13:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
:Nah, I think it's just him being H*R. Unless you can show me more context. I've only seen a dozen dozen episodes or so :P [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]] 02:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::Besides, the English dub of Naruto came out YEARS after this email. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 02:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Soolnds? ==

Hey, should we put something about a reference to soolnds in here? SB is clearly talking about selling SS's feet. [[User:Coveredinharmony|Sarah]] 02:08, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== blue contrast glitch ==

I don't see this as a glitch. All the contrast buttons do is shade the monitor blue. If you lay blue over blue strangely enough it makes blue. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 12:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

== ointless-pay ==

Does the fact that strong bad says "mat" in pig latin really need to be explained? '''everyone''' speaks pig latin! [[user:haldo]]
:You'd be surprised at what some people don't know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:38, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

== Mike and Matt ==

*the first two email senders are name mike and matt.
This fact was recently added and quickly removed. I found it interesting, and did not notice this until now. Though it doesn't belong on the page, i didn't want it lost for the ages, so here it is, on the talk page for all eternity. (and not the kind of eternity that has an alarm... the real kind) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
: Sweet! I love eternity! ... ... ... ... Is it eternity yet? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::Hang on, I'd like to say something, despite being late to say it. Doesn't this count as a textbook case of Trivia/Remark use?
*Incidentily, the senders of the emails Strong Bad checks are named Mike and Matt, who share the first names of the creators of Homestar Runner.
::That is certainly worth a mention somewhere in the remarks. That's what that section is for, right? Weird stuff that is notable.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 02:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Wow, I'd never noticed this before. I highly doubt it's a coincidence and think it should go in the article. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:26, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I think it's speculation. We have no way to know if it was intended. If the other emails were from Karen, Missy, and so on, then we'd know for sure it's not a coincidence. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 07:16, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm narrowly with Elcool on this one. While I am aware that people tend to be [[Talk:First_Time_Here%3F#Do_you_know_Mike.3F|pretty sensitive to their own names]] (though it's not obvious at first sight, I'm actually involved in that discussion), the fact that this in not purely TBC-created content, but partly user-created, leaves me skeptical. Did Mike and Matt really go through looking for two emails from senders with the same names as their own? It's possible, but largely speculatory, and if they didn't do that, it's just a coincidence. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I think that's exactly what they did. The Chaps have said that Strong Bad gets hundreds if not thousands of emails a day (or he did in his prime, anyway). The names Mike and Matt are common enough that it would have been trivial to pick out emails with those senders. Keep in mind that, due to the nature of this Strong Bad Email, they weren't looking for the cream of the crop. The two email messages in question aren't even that good—just good enough for a one-liner response. I don't think it matters that there's no email from a Karen or a Missy. They're not [[:File:The creators.jpg|the creators]], after all. By the way, as worded, neither one of the proposed fun facts above is speculation at all. They're both patently true. The question is whether the article would be better if we included such a fact in the remarks. The answer is that yes, it would. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:30, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::That fact is true in the sense that it's not false - The names are right there. It's ''not true'' in the sense that we don't know for sure if it was intentional. What you wrote in your reply is a likely scenario, but we won't know for sure unless we ask TBC. In the past we declined to add many facts that seem to be true on the surface, but were just as speculative as this one. What so spacial here? I guess that for every Fun Fact we add to a page, we have a leap to make. Was it intentional? When it's a reference to some 80's cartoon, the leap is short. It's very likely intentional. (Sometimes we think the leap is short and we get it wrong. Like Family Guy) Believing, at least for me, that TBC will insert their own names to the email senders intentionally is a long leap to make. Now the question is am I in a minority here? {{User:Elcool/sig}} 06:00, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I'm finding this leap a hair too long to work with, as well. I'm quite willing to believe that it's possible that TBC did indeed dig through emails as I've mentioned above. Neither more nor less than possible, which is to say neither likely nor unlikely, and which doesn't seem to me to be enough for a good fact. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:16, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== This is another instance of Stong Bad. ==
Is this really necessary? After all, it is A: a Strong Bad Email, so of course it's an instance of Strong Bad. B: Strong Bad is referenced as being in the cartoon already in the header of the article. [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 17:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
:No. [[Stong Bad]] {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 17:39, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
::Like, without the r. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== "Open sesame" ==

I don't think Homestar using "open sesame" while rattling off possibilities for a word he can't remember is necessarily a Popeye reference... I know that Donald Norman's book, "The Design of Everyday Things," quotes from a version of the "Ali Baba" story where our hero's pursuers perish when their leader fails to remember the magical door's secret password, "Open Sesame," mangling it several times. (Norman meant to illustrate how difficult it is to remember arbitrary facts.) [[Special:Contributions/24.22.64.228|24.22.64.228]] 09:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. There's no actual indication why it should be a reference to that toon. It's a more or less common joke, too. [[TTATOT]], in my opinion.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::On a second thought, "open sesame" isn't even the magic word in this case, meaning the popeye reference isn't even plausible. I'll delete the fact without waiting for further input.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, there is the connection of mangling it several times, which homestar is doing, still i think it too vague to consider a reference unless TBC themselves say it is or something. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:12, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Baudot code. ==

<blockquote>In the Old-Timey Strong Bad Easter egg, Strong Bad ends his emails with the word "stop". Back when telegrams were used, most people used "stop" instead of a period, <s>due to the fact that most telegram systems used a 5 bit binary code known as Baudot to transmit letters, which leaves only 29 possible characters. Those 29 characters were the 26 uppercase letters, a space, a return, and a hyphen.</s></blockquote>

The Baudot code used 5 bits (which is 32 possible characters). ''Two'' of those characters where used as "shifts" (similarly to the shift key on your keyboard), indicating that the following codes indicated "figures" instead of "letters". That's 60 characters all together, although actually only 57 because ''space'', ''carriage return'' and ''line feed'' were the same in each shift mode. The code ''did contain'' a period (00111 in figure mode). See [http://home.austin.rr.com/kinghome/signpage/baudot.html Baudot code table]. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 04:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

== X ==

In the toon, The "This is real" paper has a box where Homestar has drawn an X in the top-right corner. Is there any way to put that here? I figured out a way to put an appropriate box directly underneath the "This is real", and also underneath it but center justified. Is there a way to put the X in the proper placement? I noticed there isn't an X on the examples in [[The System is Down]] or [[Not the 100th Email!!!]] either. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 06:02, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

== Start on the Right Side, and End on the Left? ==

I have noticed, In the Goofs section of the article, Where it has the image of all the words Homestar had typed trying to figure out the real word that Strong Bad said, the last word 'delcheated ended on the left side, correct? But if the last word had been typed on the left side, where it usually would end on the right side on a real computer, it got me there? Now, I am no computer technologist, but I am pretty sure, although that is NOT a new computer, and although it can type double sided apparently on a few DOS models, it does not type from right to left. So I am left all like, "Ehh?" help a sista get rid of a headache over here! [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]

User:Jibblejibblejibble

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:03:05 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble:

Hi, guys. you might remember me as Tothelimit66. NOT NO MORE (as Homestar would say)!

i am totally OBSESSED with homestar and i know alot about the fine details in alot of the toons and SBemails. You can count on me if there is something REALLY detailed about homestar toons and CO. Surprisingly, I am a 12 year old girl, but still, i really i know i can help you guys out. i also am diagnosed with Asberger's and Hyperlexia, and my highlights there are Reading, Spelling, Typing,Tech, computers, e.c.t. This is my first blog and I don't need much guidence, which is surprising, even for me. i find it very easy to move and create around the blog. i am very dependant and don't like to be treated and talked to like i'm a LIITLE kid. i am strong and have a very advanced Vocabulary. i am expecting to have a great addition to the Wiki and will do any research if necessary. My father found homestarrunner.com before me, and introduced me to it when I was 4 YEARS OLD. I got instantly hooked. My mom banned me from it untill i turned 10 when I was 6, because she thought it was innapropriate for my age. Once I turned 10, [[Magic Trick]] was the email out. I had a lot of catching up to do. [[Routine]] was the new email on the site when I was banned. How I found the wiki? It's a little thing I like to call..... GOOGLE! I was googling a picture of [[Strong Bad]], when I found the site in one of the listings below the image results. I looked and was instantly hooked, then, as I said before, I became Tothelimit66. Then I joined the members and became The Jibblejibblejibble we know today. These Ancient fence drawings show evidence of damaged crops, stolen babies, and family bike rides.... or family... Pie sitting contests.

EDIT: Hey guys, I am back from my almost-as-long-as-Mike-and-Matt's-Absence-From-Homestar Runner. But, yes, I am back for sure. I have grown more, and am now a year older then what I was last year. ^^
Jibblejibblejibble

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Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:02:44 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble:

Hi, guys. you might remember me as Tothelimit66. NOT NO MORE (as Homestar would say)!

i am totally OBSESSED with homestar and i know alot about the fine details in alot of the toons and SBemails. You can count on me if there is something REALLY detailed about homestar toons and CO. Surprisingly, I am a 11 year old girl, but still, i really i know i can help you guys out. i also am diagnosed with Asberger's and Hyperlexia, and my highlights there are Reading, Spelling, Typing,Tech, computers, e.c.t. This is my first blog and I don't need much guidence, which is surprising, even for me. i find it very easy to move and create around the blog. i am very dependant and don't like to be treated and talked to like i'm a LIITLE kid. i am strong and have a very advanced Vocabulary. i am expecting to have a great addition to the Wiki and will do any research if necessary. My father found homestarrunner.com before me, and introduced me to it when I was 4 YEARS OLD. I got instantly hooked. My mom banned me from it untill i turned 10 when I was 6, because she thought it was innapropriate for my age. Once I turned 10, [[Magic Trick]] was the email out. I had a lot of catching up to do. [[Routine]] was the new email on the site when I was banned. How I found the wiki? It's a little thing I like to call..... GOOGLE! I was googling a picture of [[Strong Bad]], when I found the site in one of the listings below the image results. I looked and was instantly hooked, then, as I said before, I became Tothelimit66. Then I joined the members and became The Jibblejibblejibble we know today. These Ancient fence drawings show evidence of damaged crops, stolen babies, and family bike rides.... or family... Pie sitting contests.

EDIT: Hey guys, I am back from my almost-as-long-as-Mike-and-Matt's-Absence-From-Homestar Runner. But, yes, I am back for sure. I have grown more, and am now a year older then what I was last year. ^^
Jibblejibblejibble

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Talk:Characters

Jibblejibblejibble — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:45:40 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Not Charactors! */

== Questions ==

Okay. Rejects only has like 3 things to go in it, so does it get its own page? Also, in the "Who?" section, there are a whole lot of "characters", so that would get its own page....right? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:18, 16 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Hmm. I'm looking at the page now... Yeah, I don't know. I don't think they need their own page if we are going to have the Cheat Commandos on this page too. I know there's those bands there too. We might want to do something with them. Or at least adjust the section heading level. And it sure seems like there's a lot on this page. I think furrykef has something in mind though. Whatcha up to, Kef? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:48, 16 Aug 2004 (MST)

I don't really have anything in mind. I just wanted to get the stuff indexed to make it easier to tell what's missing. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] 09:14, 17 Aug 2004 (MST)

::Arg. Okay...personally, I like the smallerer pages. They're less...big...and ugly. I dunno though...it may look too sparse if we split up the thing into lotsa pages... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 10:15, 17 Aug 2004 (MST)

I think the rejects page was a good idea for all those "grey-area" characters places and things. But it seems to have been destroyed. What happened to it, and how was that decided upon?
--[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

:Oops. Please note that this conversation happened last August. Currently there are no more rejects. This was "decided upon" mostly [[User_talk:Tom#Re:%20Rejects%20cat|here]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:38, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)

==Pom Pom link==

Can I fix that Pom Pom link? it's buggin' the snot outta me. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 16:02, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, go ahead, I don't know what was going on there. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:20, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

== Character page official format ==

We need to come up with one. There's a lot of variation between the several character pages. I haven't followed the format for the few I did recently, simply because I couldn't see what the format should've been. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 10:17, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)

:The format on [[Strong Bad]] and [[Homestar Runner]] seems fine to me. But I think we should limit each character page to one picture. -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 10:47, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)

::I kinda wanna just nuke the galleries, too. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 10:49, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::You'll hear no complaints from me. -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 10:53, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)
I want to know what happened to the halloween costume lists :) On the old wiki, each character had listed what they dressed up as each year for halloween.. It's been five years and TBC do not appear daunted in their love to painstakingly dress up the characters every year. Should the costume lists be added back on, nearby the 'aka' lists? [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 02:11, 31 Oct 2004 (MST)

As a followup, even the halloween toon pages lack a breakdown of who dressed up as what. If noone else feels up to it, let me know it's allowed and I'll add tasteful lists both to the characters' pages and the 'ween pages. [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 02:14, 31 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Stickly Man ==

Please discuss in [[Talk:Stickly Man]] before editing Stickly Man's status as the 20x6 Poopsmith.

== Brief descriptions? ==

I've added brief descriptions to the computers, similar to the links in the AKA section to the real characters represented by the 20x6 and 1936 crew. Are the brief descriptions of the computer appropriate on this page, adding to the usefulness of the information; or should we be trying to keep the size and scope of index pages to a minimum? [[User:Render|Render]]

== Character Heights ==

In [[the facts]] Strong Bad's computer analysis reveals that Strong Mad is 88 inches tall and 88 inches wide. Actually he's about 7.25% taller than he is wide. Anyway, I did a height comparison for all the characters based on Strong Mad's height being 88 inches, using [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] as a reference. Here's what I got:

<table>
<tr>
<td>Character</td><td>Height</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Strong Mad</td><td>7'4"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>The Cheat</td><td>3'0"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Marzipan</td><td>7'4"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>King of Town</td><td>5'0"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Coach Z</td><td>6'6"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Homestar</td><td>6'8"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Homsar</td><td>4'7"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Poopsmith</td><td>7'5"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Pom Pom</td><td>7'7"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Strong Bad</td><td>5'5"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Strong Sad</td><td>6'6"</td>
</tr>
</table>

Anyway the numbers were a little disappointing, as Strong Bad was indicated to be less than 4'0" tall in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], so I wasn't really sure if there was any way to incorporate this information into the site. I might run the numbers again using Strong Bad's height as 4'0" and see what I get.

:Interesting calculations. I've dabbled in the height thing a bit myself. Check out [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=12125#12125 the forum post]. Of course, I think it would be rather difficult to come up with anything definite.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:07, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Another reference point for the character heights is that The Cheat is 1'2", as revealed in [[Where's The Cheat?]] --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 18:51, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Don't forget that Pom Pom's ID says he is 6'2" [[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]

:The Cheat (sort of) puts Strong Mad as 6' in 'i she be'.

:Dude, you have way to much free time. Get a hobby.

::Nah, kudos go out to whoever did this -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:46, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::This is his hobby.

:Awesome job, but why wasn't Bubs done as well? [[User:TheTylor|TheTylor]] 21:57, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

== Where my ideas reallly that bad? ==

What's wrong the Different Town and Virus sections?

Simply put, they were all only seen once. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:43, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:'''LOL''' we have a section for the Folky Tale characters, and they were seen only once. Isn't that a double standard? --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 14:49, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

::The ones for folky Tale are new characters. Virused and others alike are vriations and appear on [[Minor Character Variations]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:09, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

== Character Evolution ==

Shouldn't there be a link to each character's [[Character Evolution|Evolution]] on their character page? Seems like it should go in the bar at the bottom, but I don't know how to put it there. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

== Links in header lines ==

In my opinion, linking header lines is more convenient and less awkward than "[[Something]] is something something". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:07, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

== The Guys You Don't See Anymore ==

There are alot of old, un-named "characters" that have a one paragraph pages just for them. Can we just make a full, long page about all of those? they are [[Unnamed Girl]], [[Homeschool Winner]], [[The Unguraits]], [[Dijjery-Doo]], [[The Robot (storybook)]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|the guys in the back of the arena]] and maybe [[Mr. Bland]] and [[Señor]] (as they appeared in [[flashback]]). We did it for [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters|Teen Girl Squad]] and [[The King Of Town's Food|The King of Town]]... [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 12:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
:Can someone please replay?? [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 05:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I agree, unnamed characters it is! [[User:Stongbah]]
::So I'm on it! [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 16:13, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Galleries==

Would it be feasable to add small 'gallary format' pictures beside some of the character categories, as seen on such pages as [[Toilets]] and [[The Cheat's Head Exploding]]? It might help in the quest to clean up this page a bit. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:39, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I tried it out on the Main Characters, and it seems the only problem might be people clicking on the pictures trying to reach the articles. Should we revert it and try something else, or do the same to the rest of the page? I'm voting for the latter. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:48, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I think that looks fine. Is there a way to make the pictures link to a page, or is that the only way? But I really think it looks fine, I think if all of the other ones are like that, it would look alot cleaner--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 22:52, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::Me too, but I'm curious about the picture link. Does anyone know if it's possible to link to the page instead? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:53, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::There's a way to link the pictures, but there's a lot of coding involved. I'm sure given time I could get it done if you want. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 22:54, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::That would be excellent, or at least do the first one as a sample, and I'm sure somebody could copy the format for the rest. Then in that case, the only downside to the gallaries, would be this page is gonna get a bit longer. But all in all I think it's an improvement. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:57, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::::After some frustration and trial and error, I have found that the gallery format does '''not''' allow linking of images to separate pages. This project would ionvolve uploading many new images and and placing them manually where they belong. Myself being unable to work with images very well, I regret to inform you that my task cannot be completed as expected. Sorry. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 23:09, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::::That's okay, I think this will still work well. Thanks for the attempt. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:21, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I think the new gallery format looks outstanding! I reorganized the order just a bit, placing all the characters of the "real" universe before those in the "invented" universes (e.g. TGS and Cheat Commandos). Also, the Chaps have stated that Senor Cardgage is a real and separate character now, not just an alternate version of Strong Bad. Last, I moved bands and companies to a groups section, because they seemed to be taking up a lot of space without actually being characters. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:40, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Well, it look nice and all, but... I feel like a little child, you know? Not knowing how to read so I have to use pretty pictures to find out where I want to go. I think it made the page cluttered up and take longer to scroll. I don't hate it, but I'm not vary fond of it neither. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:38, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Well it can be interpreted that way, yes. But we still have to think of the anonys, those that come to learn a bit here and there. They might not all know all the names, that could be why they're here in the first place. Plus it's alot faster to find a certain character, you just scroll down quickly and watch for a glimpse of the guy you're looking for. The worst thing is that the pictures don't link to the articles. I'm thinking maybe if somebody goes through all the pictures, and insures that the summary includes a bolded link to the main article, this'll probably be a good thing. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 11:05, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::You'r right. For all the new ones it's all good. And tomorow after school maybe I'll start working on those links. I like gnoming :) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:30, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Half of the links are done. And you know what? I've take it to myself to caption correctly '''every freacking picture in the wiki'''! It would be long, it would be hard and maybe I'll need some help. but I can do it! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:03, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Why? What gain would that get us? Most of the captions are fine, thanks. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:12, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I think it's a good idea. It'll allow us to search pictures more easily. Rock rock on. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:15, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Anybody else think [[TMBG]] need a different picture? Like, one that at least shows their entire faces? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:44, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Speaking of the galleries, I think that the 1936/2006/20X6 counterparts should be arranged in the same way, like having first the Homestar of the era, then the Strong Bad, then the The Cheat, and so on, especially for 1936, since all of the main characters but Homsar have counterparts there. 20X6 might be a bit difficult, at least until we find out whether or not 20X6 Coach Z and the Shadowy Figure are one in the same. [[User:Tom Temprotran|TTE]] 20:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

==Folk Tale World==
Should we really have all those Folk Tale World characters here? All of them except Saddy Dumpington link to the same page. We can move Saddy Dumpington to Other Alternates and the Folk Tale World page to Related Pages. -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 01:30, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
:Having the other characters fills out the section. Most of the secions are about 9–12 pictures big, and so even with all the Folk Tale World characters, this one's size is about par for the course. The point of all these galleries is to showcase all the various worlds and characters. The only reason we group things like minor Teen Girl Squad characters into one picture is that there's so many of them it would be ridiculous to try and show them all on this page. Also, even though the links for the Folk Tale characters mostly point to the same page, they don't all point to the same ''spot'' on that page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:40, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==[[Little Girl]] Location==

I moved her from Misc. Characters to Site Contributers, along with Missy and Ryan. I think she fits in better there. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:58, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:Good move, looks much better there.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:59, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== Contributors ==

Is it appropriate for the Contributors to be in the characters page? Since they themselves are not necessarily characters (unless they were part of the Peasant's quest trailer, or Limozeen, in which case they should be referred to by their character names, not their real names). I think this section deserves its own page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:39, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

P.S. who is Ruby Red Productions? It is listed as a contributor. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:40, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:In a few days I want to be create a [[Contributors]] page and take aforementioned section there, and then link it from the Related Pages subsection.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:14, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

== Minor Alternate Versions? ==

I'm wondering if some of the characters showing up in [[Characters#Other Alternates|Other Alternates]] should instead in be in [[Minor Alternate Versions]]? With the exception of Strong Bad's made-up animals, I think virtually all of these qualify as Minor Alternates. Anyone else agree? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:00, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Staff Characters ==
Listing Mike and Matt Chapman in the same page as Homestar and Strong Bad is... odd. They're staff, not actual H*R characters like the rest of 'em. Shouldn't real people who help H*R be listed on their own page? They aren't really "characters." - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:53, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, that is odd. But note that "Real Bands" is there too, along with Real Companies. Maybe the page title is no longer accurate? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:12, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
::I mentioned the same thing a few comments above in the ''Contributors'' section. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:32, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Yes, but no one seemed to notice it, unfortunately. Anyway, we don't need to change this page's name; just move the contributers to the Contributors page Stux menionted earlier. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::::I'm guessing this sounds like some sort of consensus... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:53, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Okay! it's been moved! Feel free to [[Contributors|check it out!]] No, seriously, feel free to [[Contributors|check it out!]] I didn't modify it much, just pasted it in there, added categories, and spruced up header a bit. Oh and I inserted a rather lackluster introduction to the page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:12, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

== The Brothers Strong ==

The Brothers Strong Entry in the Organizations page has no link... this should link to something, where does it mention the Brothers Strong as being an origanization? Where's the picture from? (The picture links to [[caper]], it says that's where it's from, but that is all) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

==See Gee En Buisness==
In reply to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Characters&curid=930&diff=204185&oldid=204173 Stux], maybe CGNU hasn't been in "Fictional Companies" before now because educational institutions aren't companies (certainly not public ones). I'm not sure it should be taken off, though.
:Techincally... I think that yes they are companies... private universities are likely 501(c)3's (non-profit, is that the right #?) and public universities are usually considered independent governmental organizations in and of themselves... so I think they can be considered "companies"... ? (Universities can hold patents, make money, get sued, and can even have bad customer service!) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:23, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hehe... you don't have to tell me about that last one! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
==romans==
can someone please upload a picture of the "romans" from the sbemail "highschool"?

== Bear-Shark ==

Do we really need two bear-shark/"Bear holding a Shark" links on this page? Which one should stay? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 06:42, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I SWARE I saw BearShark on Space Ghost Coast to Coast.

== Separate characters and character videos ==

I think that the Character Video should be on their own pages, not on the same page as their character. Thoughts? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:27, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I dunno. The videos don't really take up that much space, and they are descriptive of each character. Why make people have to click through? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:30, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

::Because they're really different objects, one is a toon and one is a character. It just bothers me. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I would like to open this back up, mainly because I just saw the Marzipan article recieve the "Toons with Dialogue Alternatives" category. Characters should not go in toon categories, but that's the only way we can do this now. I still don't understand why we have character videos on character pages. Every single other video and snippet of flash on H*R gets a separate page except the character videos. I mean, if click-through was a problem we'd have all the Decemberween in July shorts on one page, for example. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

:I would be okay with all the character video transcripts being on a single page, but I don't think they should each have a separate page if they're taken off of the characters' articles. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

::Why shouldn't they each have a separate page? We certainly have shorter and more useless pages than a character video transcript. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:06, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

:::To my mind, they're all part of the same feature: [[HR:characters2.html]]. Also, I guess if you're reading the transcript for one, you might be wanting to reading the transcript for some of the other ones, and this makes that easier.

:::However, I do see the advantage of each having its own page: it's easier to use {{tl|Film}} for each of the characters' filmographies. And, if we use some navigation templates, it won't be hard to find the other ones.

:::Either way, the more I think about it, I feel that it would be good to take the transcripts off the characters' main articles. I remember the first time I was trying to find one: it took me a while, and when I found it I was a little confused about why it was on there. We can still put prominent links on those pages to the separate article(s) for the character videos, and it might make the transcripts easier to find. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:15, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

:I'm surprised action hasn't been taken on this. Would there be objections to me (or anyone) starting to make individual character pages later on? --[[User:TimMierz|TimMierz]] 19:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

::Well there is [[Character Video Transcripts]] and ongoing [[Talk:Character_Video_Transcripts|discussion]] about it there. [[Special:Contributions/64.198.255.1|64.198.255.1]] 20:16, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

== Template ==

I barely notice the "'''DOmicile: House'''" "'''Debut:''' Debut". So, here's an idea for a template for all main characters:
{{clear}}
{| border=0 align=right cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 width=250 class="toccolours" style="float: right; clear: both; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 90%;"
|+<big>'''{{{character_name}}}'''</big>
|-
| align=center colspan=2 | [[Image:{{{image}}}|100px]]
|- valign=top
! Domicile
| [[{{{domicile}}}]]
|- valign=top
! Debut
| [[{{{debut}}}]]
|- valign=top
!
| [[:Category:{{{character_name}}} Filmography|Complete Filmography]]
|}
{{clear}}
Yes, it was tekn from [[Template:Infobox Band]]. Here's an example of <nowiki>{{Template name|character_name=Homestar Runner|domicile=Homestar's House|debut=Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"}}</nowiki>
{{clear}}
{| border=0 align=right cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 width=250 class="toccolours" style="float: right; clear: both; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 90%;"
|+<big>'''Homestar Runner'''</big>
|-
| align=center colspan=2 | [[Image:homestar.PNG|100px]]
|- valign=top
! Domicile
| [[Homestar's House]]
|- valign=top
! Debut
| [[Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"]]
|- valign=top
!
| [[:Category:Homestar Runner Filmography|Complete Filmography]]
|}
{{clear}}
Just an idea. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:I like it. Anymore info we could throw in? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:25, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

::Perhaps you could just use <nowiki>{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki> for the character name? [[Mr. Shmallow (character)]] is the only page this wouldn't work... though what would you do for characters that don't have a domocile? Oh, and your example wouldn't work... the | in the debut link will make all the stuff after it get ignored by the templating thing. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:41, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:::This looks pretty cool. I, for one, welcome our new template overlords. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Thanks everyone! And, Phlip? This is just for m,ain characters, as they have the '''Domiclile:''' things. Wait, Homsar doesn't. See the revised template below.
{{clear}}
{| border=0 align=right cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 width=250 class="toccolours" style="float: right; clear: both; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 90%;"
|+<big>'''<nowiki>{{{PAGENAME}}}</nowiki>'''</big>
|-
| align=center colspan=2 | [[Image:{{{image}}}|100px]]
|- valign=top
! Domicile
| {{{domicile}}}
|- valign=top
! Debut
| [[{{{debut}}}]]
|- valign=top
!
| [[:Category:<nowiki>{{{PAGENAME}}}</nowiki> Filmography|Complete Filmography]]
|}
::::That way we can say None if needed. Oh, and your probably right about the | , but it's in a link, and it's in these tables a lot, so it actually would work. That and it works on the example. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 00:46, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

{{clear}}
== Teenage variations, etc. ==

Everything else is split so we can see the individual characters; teenage, middle school, and Free Petry Dish should be too. The amount of time it takes the page to load is negligible after it's already loaded over 220 images. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:58, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

:I like the compromised version of the sub-headers. Should I upload seperate images of the babies? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:39, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
::We already have the baby pics for Strong Bad, Strong Sad, Coach Z and the Diapersmith. I don't remember if we have one for Pom Pom, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:45, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Yep, we do. Just refer to the character pages for [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Coach Z]], [[The Poopsmith]] and [[Pom Pom]]. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

== Created Worlds vs. Fictional Fictional Characters ==

In my opinion, "Fictional Fictional Characters" is a better name for the Teen Girl Squad, the Cheat Commandos, the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes gang etc. than "Created Worlds", because:
*[[Wikipedia:Fictional fictional character|It's a term used by Wikipedia]]
*It refers to the characters, not the worlds they live in
--[[User:66.26.92.121|66.26.92.121]] 01:18, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Badian Pseudocharacters ==

I think that the [[Characters#Strong Badia|Strong Badia characters]] should be a subsection of [[Characters#Pseudocharacters|Pseudocharacters]]. Anyone agree? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:44, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
:You may have a point. They do seeem to fit.[[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]] 16:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
::Done'd {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
:::What about the bundt cake pan? -[[User:Dutchscout|Dutchscout]] 00:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Unfortunately, the Bundt Cake Pan only ever had one appearance, and never did anything particularly pseudocharacter-y in its brief time onscreen. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:18, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

== Also which what? ==

I really think our "Also known as" section in Character pages could do with a rename. Not only is it misleading (people try to add [[Nicknames]] to the sections ''all the frikking time''), but it's not exactly accurate (I don't think [[Pom Pom]] would respond well if he was called [[Fat Dudley]]). Perhaps "Alternate forms" or "Variants"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:22, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
:I agree. Either of those would be a good alternate title. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I say we rename it "Character Variations", like the [[:Category:Character Variations|category]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:39, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
:::That's a good idea. I like that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== The decemberween decorations ==

Should the Decemberween decoration versions of the characters from decemberween short shorts be an alternate?

== Undead Strong Bad ==

I believe that Strong Bad as a zombie should be included in this page as an [[Characters#Other_Alternates|Other Alternate]]. Any comments? —{{User:Supuhstar/sig}}
:Actually it all depends on what will come of [[The Zombie Uprising of 2046]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:07, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Suggestion for Homsar & Senor==

Senor shows up too much to be misco & Homsar shows up too little to be main. Both should be secondary & the kings lackies should be misco; though they have been showing up more & more lately, but not as often as Senor or Homsar. Of course all of them could be listed as "Frequent Guest." ^_^
:Homsar is widely considered to be one of the "core 12", as his presence is usually in an Easter egg. Senor Cardgage, on the other hand, rarely interacts with the others, and does not have his own character page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

==Chart==

If anyone has the time & will, I'd love to see a chart of character vs year on appearences. For instance, the graph would show Strong Bad skyrocketing ujp the graph while Pom Pom slowly plunges & goes slightly up again. It would be based on appearences in both emails & toons. Last year, I was almost positive Pom Pom was going to vanish like all the king's men, but then they started showing up again while popular characters like Teen Girl Squad & Cheat Commandos are making a small decline.

== Minor Characters? ==

''Moved from: [[Talk:Tentacle Skull#Minor Characters]]''

Resume discussion! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 00:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I think we should make a [[Minor Characters]] page and put any character with only one appearance there. Who's with me? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:47, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think... that would be the longest page ever. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::Why? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:::It couldn't be any longer than [[Characters|this]] page.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 23:54, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Actually, it would, because it would have to have more detail and description of each character. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:55, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::But it wouldn't have all of those, just the minor ones. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::For the real people like [[Don Knotts]], all it would need is a link to the appropriate Wikipedia article.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 00:00, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Dorian, why don't we try it and cut it into smaller pages and categories if need be? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:04, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Like "Real people that appear in the H*R Universe," "Minor characters with only one appearance," and "minor characters" that that have more than one appearance but really REALLY [[Ali and Ali's Sister|don't need their own page]].--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 00:16, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Actually, ali and ali's sister should, as they've become a running joke and have 3 appearances, but the rest of what you said is good. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:18, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:I'm with you like no otha, brotha!--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 23:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::Wait, didn't we decide not to merge most pages? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:25, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:::That discussion was while ago, though. Lemme go dig it up.
:::'''LATER:''' [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 7#Merge Crazy|Here's the ol' discussion]]. Just for reference. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 00:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

:::Well, otherwise, we keep ending up with more and more and more pages with just two or three sentences directly quoted from the "references" section of some toon and a link to a Wikipedia article. It's just unsightly.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 00:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== where be poppy? ==

poppy the tire isn't in the mascots section? we have the stop sign... mistake or purposeful?
:By clicking [[Mount RidesPlace USA Mascots]] you get to see all three mascots, but still, I do think all three deserve a place on the characters page. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

== Senor Cardgage a main character?==

He should be.[[User:Physicsguymonsterman|Physicsguymonsterman]] 13:06, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:Doesn't have a character video or appear in Halloween toons. Therefore, not main. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

== English ==

What the heck is wrong with the English on this website? It's awful. I can't understand anything.
: I don't see anything wrong. Perhaps you have a virus that activated on your computer today? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

== Petry Dish vs. Petri Dish ==

Does anybody know where the spelling of "Petry Dish" came from?
From what I remember in high school/college chemistry, it's proper spelling was "petri" dish.
I think someone should change this...
:It was (mis)spelled "Petry" in the cartoon, therefore that's the "official" spelling that we use. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

== New Bad Guy Girl Character ==

Should she go in Blue Laser, or in other characters? And where would the Guy Who Does The Bad Guy's Voice go? [[User:Shadoman|Shadoman]] 16:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

And where is A. Chimendez? You have Crack Stuntman and Guy Who Does The Bad Guy's Voice, but not Chimendez.

== A. Chimendez ==

Seeing as he has a page about him, A. Chimendez should really have his own character link and image on this Characters page, in the same vein as Crack Stuntman does.

== Blubb-o's mascot ==

Shouldn’t Coach Z in his Dive-thru whale costume be in mascots? If not the drive through whale is a mascot not just a pseudocharacter. Please explain how you define the category of characters if they belong in more than one category.

== Fav main character? ==

Headline speaks for self. My fav is [[Homsar]], AKA "The captain of the gravy train." AKA "Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
:This is a great kind of thing to ask on the forum. Why not take it there? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== New Character images? ==

I know it's probably uneeded, but I always thought that for the character pages, at least those of the main 12, we should have images of just the characters, without any of the background in it. If so, the images would look something like the ones found here: [http://s718.photobucket.com/albums/ww185/HomestarCharacters/]. What do you guys think? [[User:TheTylor|TheTylor]] 03:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:I think that link is broken. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::Hopefully fix'd. Try again. [[User:TheTylor|TheTylor]] 20:29, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Updated with more pictures and categories. No one wants to say whether they think this will be a good idea or not? I'd rather talk about it before I try to change anything. [[User:TheTylor|TheTylor]] 17:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
:Not a bad idea, I think the grid of images would look nice that way. Before uploading those though, some of them could benefit from just a little bit of refinement. The Poopsmith and the KoT images both have some semi-transparent pixels of background still visible in places, and the cut-out of KoT is pretty rough along his back. Sorry to be nit-picky, good work on them ;) —[[Special:Contributions/98.222.134.36|98.222.134.36]] 18:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Okay well, I waited awhile in case someone thought this was a bad idea, but nobody seemed to want to comment on it, so I went ahead and uploaded the main 12 character images with transparent backgrounds. If someone objects, they can just revert the images. If they aren't reverted within a couple of days, I'm just gunna go ahead and work on more of the secondary and minor characters. If anyone wants to help, feel free. I've uploaded everyone I've done so far onto that photo bucket account. [[User:TheTylor|TheTylor]] 02:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== Favorite Characters? ==
Hey everypeoples! Just wonderin', would you mind telling me your favorite character? Thank ya so nice! [[User:Fingerface|Fingerface]] 00:01, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you ask that kind of thing on the forum, you could get a wider response??? Not that many people look at this talk page to awnser that.--{{User:Smartkidhen/sig}} 19:39, 3 June 2009 (UTC)smartkidhen

== MADE UP ANIMALS?? ==

In the Other Alternates section, wouldn't it just be easier to list all the names and pictures of the made up animals instead of that one picture and the link to the made up animals page???????? I added Sterrance to the list, but I can take him off if you guys want.--{{User:Smartkidhen/sig}} 19:34, 3 June 2009 (UTC)smartkidhen
:Well, by a purely simplistic standpoint, listing one ''is'' easier than listing a bunch. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== 'Wil Characters ==

Okay, this may seem weird, but should we put pictures of the younger ones on their pages? Like, Lil SB on SB's page, Teen Mad on SM's page, Lil Coach Z. Sort of. Catch my drift? [[User:Strong Intelligent|SI.com!]]

== Ready for Primetime ==

According to {{p|l={{FULLURL:Characters|diff=717992&oldid=717989}} these two}} {{p|l={{FULLURL:Characters|diff=718181&oldid=718180}} edits}}, Strong Mad's name doesn't belong adjacent to Ready for Primetime in that spot. Apparently we've decided against it. However, I can find no proof that this has been decided against (i'm probably not looking hard enough), and I believe that Strong Mad's name certainly belongs there. In order to prevent a further edit war, I would like to either see evidence to back up Jay's claim, or to open discussion on whether or not Strong Mad's name belongs there. And maybe both; seeing evidence isn't going to change my mind. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 20:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
:Because Ready for Primetime is his own body. He's a self-sustaining character like Homestar or Eh! Steve!. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 22:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
::no he's not. he's Strong Mad's head. If Strong Bad's name belongs beside [[Keyboard Strong Bad]] since he's based on Strong Bad, then Strong Mad's name belongs beside Ready for Primetime since he's based on Strong Mad. oh, and the [[DNA Evidence (running gag)|evidence]] was probably more important in my earlier post than the discussion part. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 00:03, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Frankly, I think you have it backward. I don't think we should have the "(Strong Bad)" next to Keyboard Strong Bad. We put them next to the alternate characters (Old-Timey and 20X6 and so forth), but I don't think they belong in other portions of the page. Now then, Ready for Primetime has Strong Mad's face, but it's not meant to be a counterpart to Strong Mad; after all, where's Homestar's counterpart? And exactly which character does Eh! Steve represent? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:55, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
::::There's nothing to suggest that all the characters need variations. Strong Bad was making it up as he went, and he found a way for himself to fit in to the crazy cartoon, and later on, for Strong Mad to fit in. So, based on what I've said so far, would you predict that I think The Wheelchair should have (Bubs) next to it, or not? i'm closer to being swayed than i was this afternoon, but there still hasn't been any evidence provided to strengthen the edit summary in the first link i posted. anyway, what exactly does the name in parentheses mean? I might have that wiki terminology incorrect. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 06:12, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Then we should take the parenthetical away from keyboard head strongbad. [[Special:Contributions/132.183.4.6|132.183.4.6]] 21:07, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

== userboxes ==

Do you think there should be userboxes on all the characters' (including TBC) pages (except "This user" would be replaced with the character's name)? Just a suggestion. --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:44, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
:An interesting idea in theory, but I don't think it would work at all. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 00:10, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
::Maybe mock up an example. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:01, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
:::ok how about JUST on tbc's pages? --{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 22:23, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
::::Perhaps draw it up in the sandbox so you can show us what your idea is. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:59, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

==Not Charactors!==
Why on earth does bands and companies on a '''CHARACTERS''' page? they are not characters and they cramp up the page! Should they have onother page? --[[User:Jfilesguy|that guy who is Jfiles]] 12:37, 21 June 2011 (UTC) June 2011
: I believe if any of the characters have contact with the bands/ characters in question, Like, Sloshy, for instance, they are characters. And they are also characters is they simply appear in cartoons and SBemails more then 2 or 3 times. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]

Talk:your funeral

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:56:15 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/He will die before 2046?????

== 2:03 ==

I think that when Strong Bad mentions that the zombies will come at 2:03 it is a reference to Strong Sad's Lament when he says that Tuesdays at 2:03 is his favorite time.
:- It's possible, but it's a bit of a stretch. Especially since March 31, 2047 falls on a Saturday. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::But the easter egg takes place in ''2046''. In which case March 31 is a Sunday. Either way, it's not Tuesday. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Sad likes Tuesdays at 3:02, not 2:03. [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 02:35, 16 March 2007

== Homestar and Marzipan ==

I'm not sure if it belongs on the wiki, but is it possible that Homestar and Marzipan live with each other? The front of Marzipan's house looks the same, and Homestar's broken Cow lamp may be a different room besides the front. should this be on their relationship page?

:I don't think so. Marzipan's house is blue, as seen in 2003 Halloween toon [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and Homestar is trick or treating at this house. Though Homestar is kinda funny and doesn't think somethings through most of the time, I don't think he would trick or treat at his own home. Homestar's house is gray as seen in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However it could be that this ''is'' the same house and is only colored based on the season (blue because it's night and grey because of the cold snow). [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 16:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::If you look on the pages for [[Homestar's House]] and [[Marzipan's House]], the interior rooms look different, meaning they can't live together. On the other hand, that makes me wonder why he said, "Marzipan, I'm home!" when he doesn't actually live there. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Huh. Maybe that was just Homestar being Homestar and confirming things he doesn't even know about. Kind of like the whole "It's time for tasteball!", "Oh, crap. Tasteball already." bit. 18:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:This scene is Strong Bad's future speculation (after all, he's dead at this point). It's possible that Homestar and Marzipan could be cohabitating at this future time, no? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:In the commentary for [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], TBC said that they didn't want anyone thinking that Homestar and Marzipan live together (or something to that effect). [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Can I help?==
can I help with trying to find some glitches? -[[User:TheDenzel|The Denzel]] 01:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Do whatever you want to help. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== the email is down right now. ==

This probably means it will soon be updated in a way that will be of interest for the 'glitch/trivia' section.[[User:168.156.44.101|168.156.44.101]] 02:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:...uh, no. It's not. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:(if you are getting a 404'd from it, hold down the shift key and hit the reload button) {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 02:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It perhaps wasn't gone for long, I reloaded it SEVERAL during a few minutes when it wouldn't seem to appear.[[User:24.22.145.14|24.22.145.14]] 05:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::This is unremarkable, it happens all the time. It's on your end. You need to clear your cache or force a reload using the aforementioned trick. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Homestar lip dot?==
When Homestar is reading from the phone book, one of the mouth frames has a black dot on it, and shows up whenever that particular frame is up. — [[User:69.105.202.40|69.105.202.40]] ([[User talk:69.105.202.40|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.105.202.40|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

- Check please. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I checked the email. The dot is very small and faint, but it does trully exist. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::frame 2031, it is an error with his eye. when he closes his eyes, one of them does not get fully erased. {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::If it is not noticeable to the viewer except by manipulation, it's not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Too far? ==

O_O Too... i dunno. Definitely not for kids. More PG-13 rated.

[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Uh... Why? Because there's corpses? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 02:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It's all pretty cartoony, expecially how Strong Bad continues to fail staying dead. Strong Bad waking up with an exposed ribcage creeped me out a little, but I wouldn't say the email went too far. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I think they were in danger of going too far, given the rather morbid question, but I have to say they handled it quite nicely. I mean, Homestar reading from the phone book at a eulogy? Genius! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::: Got it! [[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Getting a bit forumy here. Let's keep this page about the content. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:No one ever made the claim that Homestar Runner was a cartoon for children. (In fact, in the email "For kids," Strong Bad is quite opposed to the idea, heh.) I didn't see you complaining when one of the members of Blue Laser got a fork jammed in his eye. Stop taking it so seriously. [[User:0rion|0rion]]
::[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=10241 Read this thread]. I don't know if the person who started this section complained about it, but some people have. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Ummm, I don't know why, but this e-mail creeped me out too. Everybody! is right. I know, I know, I'm weird... Also, my friend was talking to me about this website, and she said it was a family website. 0.o I dunno.--[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 21:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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::I think itsa little creepy, i dont get creeped out like that, but its definatly not in the category of PG-13. I think it should not be seen for girls under the age of 7, and boys under the age of 4. LOL! [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:20, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Egg - future SB ==

Are you sure he's a zombie in the egg? When he came out of the jar as a zombie he had black eyes and a visible rib. In the egg it looks like he's just stuck somethng to his head, put on some tattered jeans and is spitting out a mouthful of grape jelly. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. I think he's still alive there.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Which would agree with what he said at the end of the email. How he hoped the zombies would let him be on their side, even though he was alive. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:While I see where you all are coming from, in my opinion, SB acts more like a zombie in the easter egg than in the e-mail. That is, in the e-mail proper, he has complete and full consciousness, while such presumably cannot be said for egg SB. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, he ''acts'' like a zombie, anyone can spit out jelly while saying "Blarg". - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]]
:::I don't exactly follow. It's true that ''anyone'' can spit out jelly and say, "Blarg." My point is that it would be unthinkable, or at least improbable, that a zombie would speak coherently and recognize people, as Strong Bad does when he breaks out of the jar. I was merely pointing out that easter egg SB seems more zombie-esque (by merit of being less human-esque) than he does in the e-mail itself. It also seems likely that he's just pretending to be a zombie, as this is hinted at in the end of the e-mail. So, in my opinion, he's not really a zombie in either scenario. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 19:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::It's kinda hard to just be ''pretending'' your a zombie when your skin is tattered and rotting and your ribcage is exposed. I see your point, and it's valid, but it still doesn't justify why he'd still be alive when he breaks out of the jar. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 7:04 PM, March 18, 2007 (EST)

== References in future characters? ==

Do you think Future Pom Pom and Future Strong Sad are references in themselves? Future Pom Pom looks a lot like Duke Nukem... — [[User:68.44.220.232|68.44.220.232]] ([[User talk:68.44.220.232|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.44.220.232|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])
:By their faces, beards, cigars, and ammo belts, I am willing to wager that it is a reference to the Contra series of video games and the 2 main chracters from the original game in that series. See the picture located [http://www.racketboy.com/retro/contra-arcade.jpg here] for confirmation purposes.~[[User:DanZero|DanZero]] 06:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Interesting — I wonder if there's a closer reference though, only because Contra doesn't have anything like zombies in it. Or maybe it's just a general reference to that style of gritty '80s action hero... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Sure does seem to look a lot like contra... hard to piece together why they'd use that tho. other than the fact that it was like the best game ever --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 07:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I just thought they were the archetype of futuristic survivors. I didn't see a particular reference, it's endemic to the genre. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::I thought Strong Sad was a bit reminiscent of Snake Plissken from the film "Escape From New York", but it might just be me. [[User:Klarsh|Klarsh]] 16:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Not sure how relevant it is, but am I alone in thinking there are similarities between future Strong Sad and the Strong Sad action figure? -Xerzes, who hasn't done this enough to remember how to make the sig and timestamp happen.

::My first impression was that Pom Pom looked like Cable from the X-Men animated series but it's been a while since I've seen that. An X-Men connection could explain the Doomsday device though, which was created to kill all the mutants (or in this case, zombies). Then again, post-apocalyptic scenarios with cigars and doomsday devices are pretty common! [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 12:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:::It's probably just TTATOT, seeing how many references we've been able to come up with. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

== screaming yellow ==

Is there any evidence that this is really a reference to the candy, and not say, to the car? Either seems pretty much arbitrary to me. Perhaps the candy is a bit more in "TBC style" as far as references go (so retro). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: But TBC didn't make the reference... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::yes, of course, since this is in the body of the email received, it should be assumed that TBC are refering to nothing at all, and it's simply word for word the email they received. At any rate, it feels like speculation to me. Though, there are only 2 or 3 things in the popular lexicon that I can imagine the author of the email intended. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it was a faulty reference to Dripping Yellow Madness. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 05:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Although I have no problems in keeping the reference out (since any reference made by a fan is borderline as it is), I don't think it's a matter of [[TTATOT]]. I'm almost certain that it's a reference to Screamin' Yellow Zonkers. If this gets taken to a vote, I'll green light it, but as of right now, I have no problems with it being left out. - [[User:0rion|0rion]]
Removed as speculation, we have no idea what the author intended and there is more than one
possiblity {{User:Bryanc/sig}}:
<blockquote>*'Screaming Yellow Strong Bad' is presumably a reference to the snack food [[Wikipedia:Screaming Yellow Zonkers|Screaming Yellow Zonkers]].</blockquote>
Ideas in the email itself are not TBC created, and as such are not notable references in nearly all cases. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: I think they should have continued the joke...I mean, Screaming Yellow Zonkers? Screaming Yellow Zombie? I'm not sayings it's comedic gold,like commas, but it's definitely the same style humor as this website. ~ Shadix

In my mind, I thought it was a reference to [[Unseen Characters|Dripping Yellow Madness]] from [[Cool Things]], but since it was part of the e-mail rather than something that's within the toon inself, I didn't bother mentioning anything. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 15:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Vocal Effect ==

What effect did they put on Strong bads Voice when he was "zombiefied" its Awesome, and being the Avant-Garde Musician, it would help a lot (music wise). Thanks.

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i think it's an allusion to what happens to the character "jordy" (played by stephen king) in the movie creepshow. the undead jordy sounds just like the undead strong bad.

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Awesome, ill read up on that. now i need to find out how to replicate it ^^

FWIW, it's used in the movie "Creepshow" AGAIN as the vocal effect on the dead father in "Father's Day"...

: Months late and dollars short, but it's a question worth answering in case the asker ever looks again. You can probably achieve this effect or something very similar to it with extreme settings on a [[Wikipedia:Flanging|flanger]]. Sounds like a modulation frequency of at least 15 Hz and probably zero feedback, but I can't guess at the modulation depth or wet/dry mix without experimentation. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Passion Reference?? ==

Am I the only one who sees a ridiculous amount of Passion of the Christ references? Strong Sad carrying the jar like the cross while being whipped, Strong Bad's exposed ribcage, references to the repeatedly changed day of prophecy that the souls of the dead will come back as zombies and attack the living? Am I crazy or just the only one morbid enough to see it?
*You're crazy and unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: Ah, very good then. Thought: Baleeted.
::And you're still unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The first two I could kind of understand, though I would call them more coincidental. The last one makes no sense: when in Mel Gibson's film did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed day of a prophecy that souls of the dead will come back and attack the living? [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:Never seen the movie, but when in ''this email'' did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed date that souls of the dead would come back? Strong Bad didn't change the date of the zombie revolution; he just got more and more specific as to the time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Does the whipping thing reference ''anything''? it seems like it should... --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:No, it's just a poke at slavery. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 18:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== 2046? 20X6? ==

Could this be a reference? I know it means that 2046 is NOT 20X6 (as the characters look completely different from their 20X6 forms) but could the similarity of the years be a reference? You know, a nudge from TBC, baiting us, telling us "Hey, here's one that it's NOT, good luck figuring out which one it IS." [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think that 20X6 is actually one year, or else last year would also be 20X6. When Sam (from Concord, California) who asked the e-mail in [[time capsule]] said it would be opened in X0 years, I think Strong Bad took X0 as an actual way to calculate time in years. {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::That does not directly address the question I brought up in any way. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the year "2046" often used in some comicbooks to depict a future alternate reality? I know there's a movie called [[Wikipedia:2046 (film)|2046]], but I don't recall zombies in that. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 14:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I think you're talking about 2099. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
:Well, I know I looked on the back of a really old Metroid game box in a computer store and it said "In the year 20X5..." -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 22:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, you guys. Have a look at the intro paragraph of [[20X6]] ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fourth wall Break? ==

Marzipan just leaned over the edge of the left side of the frame. Is this a fourth wall break? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:You're joking right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 13:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Don't be mean. Now, I can see what you're trying to say. If she physically manipulated the frame (which we wouldn't be able to see anyway), THEN it would be a fourth wall break. As far as we're concerned, it's like someone leaning away from they're cooking to talk to their relative, or something. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 14:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh thanks for your help Bryanc. B-( {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 19:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I did not mean to be rude, I'm very sorry I came across that way. But this is not close to what a break in the theatrical 4th wall means. A "fourth wall" break is when the actors acknowledge that they are actors. It was to be somewhat jarring, like out of nowhere Strong Sad looks into the camera and says "Hello!". That is breaking 4th wall. It's toyed with a lot and the lines are blurred here. Which makes it a little difficult to say what and what.
{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

==Addendum==

An addendum is "something added or to be added, especially a supplement to a book". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's nice to know. go ahead and put it under the "Explanations" sectionor the remarks section. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno — do we usually list definitions of words under Explanations, unless it has something to do with the context of the toon? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Breaking References??==
I'm against listing "So Cold" by Breaking Benjamin as a reference for the funeral procession. I just watched the video again on Youtube, and there's nothing there to link it as a reference, beyond the fact that they're both funeral processions, which is far from unique. At the very least, I think the wording should be changed, "oddly reminiscent" is too vague and seems to me to be an admission that it's not really a reference. Either re-word it into a definite, specific reference or get rid of it completely. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's a reference either. I say, go ahead and remove it, and if anyone thinks it should stay they can STUFF it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Bibendum image ==

The Bibendum easter egg isn't just a Michelin reference, it's a direct reference to [http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Le-Pneu-Michelin-Nunc-Est-Bibendum-Giclee-Print-C12046037.jpeg this classic ad]. According to [[Wikipedia:Michelin#Bibendum|Wikipedia]], which provides a translation of the ad's text, the name of the mascot (which is Latin for "to drink") originated with this ad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 19:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, good find — you're right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Good job. you can go ahead and put that on the page WITH the picture.
:Waaait a second there, man. "bibendum" is a gerund, so it just means "drinking" (in its use as a noun, not a verb or adjective, e.g. "Drinking is fun").
::The image is clearly a reference to the ad, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Newlydead ==
When Strong Bad said 'newlydead', do you think he was making a play on 'newlywed'? I know it doesn't really fit the context, but just by the way it sounds...maybe not....--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I'd say that's probably where he derived the word. Typical Strong Bad coinage, I'd say. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Count me in too. An easy pun Strong Bad would say. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. Very yes. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 21:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Chaup au Fan? ==

What is a "Chaup au Fan"? If anyone knows, this should be added to Explanations. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:It sounds like very poor and broken French. Literally, I think it would be "[Nonexistent word] to the fan[as in, a Homestar fan, not a fan which would move air]." Perhaps by « Chaup » they were trying to make "Chap" sound more French? Thus, the image was created by the Chaps for a fan? Chaup could be a French word, I'm not certain (I'm only in fifth-year French), but it's not one I've ever heard, nor can I find it in my dictionary. Oh, and by the way, the pronunciation (following the IPA standards) would probably be something like: ʃop o fɑ̃ [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

::While I appreciate the linguistic exploration (I do love those), I'm assuming it must actually mean something. It's unlike TBC to include something like this which is made up out of whole cloth. There's gotta be a meaning to this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:::True; "From the Chaps, for a fan" would be my best guess at the actual meaning, but who knows. Again, maybe they just wanted to make it look French, Michelin being a French company. I'll look into the issue further.[[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:I may be completely crazy, but it seems to me to be similar to the way Strong Sad produces "Chaparone" in senior prom. Anyone? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's just Strong Sad's (quite good) French accent that makes them sound similiar. And I favor an explantion of what this term means by someone who knows as I've been able to find nothing about it. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::: It's pretty much just nonsense. There's a "translation" up there ^ a few lines, but it's just telling you that what Strong Sad's saying doesn't make sense. I've taken four years of French and I can tell you thatit's garbage. Pure garbage, sister. Also, I feel that SS's accent leaves much to be desired... he overdoes it on many an occasion. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Apparently at this point we're confident that "Chaup au Fan" is simply gibberish. While saying that, and noting the relation to dance terms as the context of the toon supports, are notable, the speculative meanings are just that, and as such I will remove them from the article and note them in this thread.

:*The way it's initially said by Strong Bad and Strong Sad sounds like a mispronunciation of "coq au vin," which is chicken in wine sauce, a popular French dish. It might also be an intentional misspelling (to seem even more French) of the term "chapeau fan," which would literally translate as a "fan hat" (e.g. a baseball cap pertaining to a favorite team).

::::{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Put him in a jar? ==

I don't hear "put him in a jar," but rather "brother in a jar." Anyone else? -just a random newb

Actually, I thought it sounded like "funeral in a jar" [[User:63.165.156.213|63.165.156.213]] 23:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

not enough syllables. speaking of, when they say it the third time, and also in the easter egg, they run the words together, so it's more like "puteminajar". does anyone else think this should be indicated in the transcript? [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:I definitely heard brother on a second viewing. Also, it could be "fun'ral," so syllables aren't an issue. Could we maybe get a vote? I cast my vote... '''BROTHER'''-wards! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:It doesn't sound like "brother" to me. There's no r sound. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 06:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I definitely heard "put him" (I was the transcriber.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I hear "brother in a jar". -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 01:45, 16 March 2007 (CST)
::::I also definitely hear "put him".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::While I'm not sure exactly what it says, I am pretty certain that I hear neither "brother in a jar" nor "put him in a jar." I've listened to it over and over again, and instead of "in," it sounds like it's saying "for," though I have not been able to come up with a wording for the sentence in which that would make sense. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 03:11, 16 March 2007 (EST)
:I watched it three times this week and heard "Brother in a jar." I also thought "fall back" was "Pom Bag" and that it was supposed to be 2046 Pom Pom's name. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::I hear "Put him in a jar" [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 17:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::My best guess is "Pull him from the jar". I definitely hear it starting with "P" sound, and I'm pretty sure about the "f" sound ("from" or maybe "for") and "the jar" instead of "a jar". Maybe the second word is "it" instead of "him". But maybe we'd better just wait til they release it as a quote. I hope they do! -another random newb, 22:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, your guess sounds a lot closer.

Should we add a footnote to the transcript? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:We don't usually do that when we're unsure.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::I found similar footnotes in [[boring (really)]] and [[candy product]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The footnote is useful when there is no consensus, or equal consensus for different options. In this case I don't really know if there us consesnus, but I'm personally happy to allow the footnote to remain as proposed while discussion ensues. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I watched it several times, and I always heard "put him in a jar". Well, more like "puteminajar", as Neumannz said. It also makes more sense. I can't see "brother in a jar" being relevant, and about "funeral in a jar", the funeral isn't in the jar. It's in.. wherever the funeral is. But that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

:I hear "put him in a jar" too, which makes the most sense, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I can only hear "put him in a jar". ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 23:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC))

Well, now that the Quote of the Week says "brother" instead of "put him", I may suggest every single change to the transcript and subtitles once again. Man, same issue with Marzipan's word booty. Anyway, I'm only visiting, and then I'm leaving again. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, that goes without saying. We don't really need to be reminded to make those changes. (He's talking about [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-22|this quote]], by the way.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yay, I got it! And some others, but not the majority, got it too! [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
:High fives all around! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 03:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yay! -just the random newb who started all of this
:::The QotW says "brother in a jar", but I hear "put him in a jar". Ignore the "User:". [[User:Neox]]

== Coach Z 1234 Beat ==

The beat in Strong Bad's funeral kind of sounds like the #1 hit: [[These Peoples Try To Fade Me]] -{{User:Viklas/sig}}

:Sounded more like Another One Bites The Dust to me... [[User:74.119.23.212|74.119.23.212]] 00:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:TTAOT, it sounded like a generic rap to me. Which could sound like a lot of raps. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== World War Z ==

This is really just idle speculation, but has anyone hear ever read World War Z? It's a story about what would happen if Zombies really did attack humanity within the next 30-40 years. I'm pretty sure that TBC hasn't even heard of the book, but still, I feel like this deserves a minor refrence due to the similarities, like here, on the talk page. Also, could Screaming Yellow be a reference to Kyle the Yellow Dart Smith? Again, idle speculation
:Actually, I was more apt to believe the zombie references in this email have to do with the horror/sci-fi genre of video games and movies, like Resident Evil and the like. But that's already starting down the TTATOT path. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::'''NEVER''' use my name in vain. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:There's also a book called ''The Zombie Survival Guide'', and probably countless others in the same strain. You could never have a reference, it's just TTATOT. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::How coincidental. I was reading both those books just today. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::It was probably a reference to "Dripping Yellow Madness." [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think the zombie uprising was a reference to anything in particular, because that's been used in a lot of different stories/movies/whatever. And I'm really not sure what Screaming Yellow was a reference to, but since it was from the fan, they could be just writing random words or something to make it sound funny. Who knows?
::::Also, what's TTATOT mean? {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 21:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::See [[TTATOT]]: "'This That And The Other Thing.' Applicable when a reference in a toon could refer to one of many similar things. The rule of thumb is that if it could apply to several things, it probably refers to nothing in particular."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== Same? ==

Is Strong Sad really saying the same thing that his Bibendum advert has written out? It sounds more like he's saying chapon fond, chape en front, chape en fan, or even chapeau fort, more than Chaup au fan. Unless he just has horrible French pronunciation. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:There's no copy in that ad which would be reasonably mispronounced by a moderately-educated person as "Chap au fan" - and this is TBC we're talking about. This is clearly something but what? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:Just a wild shot in the dark, but we are talking about the Chap brothers' website, right?

:I'm pretty sure he is indeed saying the same thing as the text in the ad, but there might be an off chance it's "something enfant". Perhaps "Chaps enfant" meaning that Strong Bad is a (brain)child of the Brothers Chaps. It's a bit of a stretch, and I think in proper French the "s" at the end of "Chaps" would be pronounced at the beginning of "enfant" anyway. Just a thought. - {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:Strong Sad's pronuciation in French is, whenever he's done it before, quite good. It would be out of character if he were screwing this up. Any dancers out there? I really would like to know what Monsieur Sad is referring to. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a ballroom dancer. I think what Strong Sad is saying is "chassé font" (pronounced more or less like what Strong Sad said, like "schahs auh faunt") which is a move we use in ballroom to mean a long step forward, followed by sliding the other foot to neutral position again. In other words, extend the first (usually right) leg like a lady's lunge in tango, then slide the other foot back, the foot ending sideways. Does that make sense? The only problem I see is that isn't really a flashy move, so why would SS want to show it off? [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

::Is that how it's pronounced in ballroom dancing terms? Because in French, it would be pronounced more like "shahs say fon(with a nasal 't' suggested at the end)." [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::I don't speak a word of French, so I'm probably entirely inaccurate in the pronunciation. My ballroom teacher is from Wisconsin, so that probably influences the accent a bit ;) [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]
:::I think you mean a nasal "n" sound. The t is silent. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::That's why I said it was suggested at the end; the nasalization of the "n" suggests a "t" afterwards. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::::Oh. That's kinda weird, but okay, I guess. Really, though, the nasal n could suggest other letters, so I would have just said that, but hey, whatever floats your boat. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 13:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::One thing I also thought of, silly as it may be: this may also link to SB's comment about a "chappy thong." Reason being is if you aren't used to moving correctly, certain garments like to wedge themselves in uncomfortable places. [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

== Phone Book ==

Anyone else notice that this is the second email in a row to refer to a phone book? The last has Homestar mentioning that the "real money is in" phone books, and this one has has the reading from the "book of phone." Is this, perhaps, setting itself up as another running gag? Or, more interestingly, might it somehow be tied into the recent DNA references? --left unsigned

:Hm -- I think it's a coincidence. Much like the [[Talk:unnatural#Chocolate cake again! I said chocolate cake again!|chocolate cake]] reference in [[unnatural]], there's nothing else that ties it to the previous appearance... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:We'll see if it comes up again next email [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

::Yeah, probably just a coincidence. But I still think the chocolate cake thing was anything but coincidental.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 11:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Mycology and Leonard part 6 ==

the tape in the boOOMmbox says my c00logy, which is much like mycology, the study of fungi. fungi eat dead people. fungi probably are eating dead strong bad.<s> fun fact?</s> notable? prolly. also, the reference to leotards being part of a weapon is reminescent of Leonard part 6. {{User:Csours/sig}} 17:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's notable. He's just emphasizing how COOL his eulogy is. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 17:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed. (And it probably needs adding to [[Portmanteaus]]. I'll go do that now...) {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::: <strike>Just another thought- should it go in [[Internet Slang]] too? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)</strike>
::::...actually, now that I look at it, it's COOLogy rather than c00logy, so discount that.{{User:Kahteh/sig}} 22:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's notable to point out that this webpage may be the only webpage in existence that refers to both The Passion and Leonard Part 6
:::::[http://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=3fc&q=%22Passion%20of%20the%20Christ%22%20%22Leonard%20Part%206%22&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=iw That's simply not true.] --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fixed it? ==

I re-watched the e-mail again, and it looks like that when he says "funeral's" he actually types funeral's now.

== "Marizipan i'm home!" ==

I can't think what, but I'm sure this is a parody on something, there was a TV show where sombody said "*Someone* I'm home!" in very similar mannor... [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 21:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:It's basically a cliche by now... It was done a lot in those '50s shows. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe "Lucy, I'm home!"? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 22:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:It was such a cliche on black and white tv shows that there was a truly terrible television show, a parody (though really stretching the definition of the word) made for Nick at Nite in the late early '90's named after it. (I can't believe that they actually made a wiki article about it, but yeah, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi_Honey%2C_I%27m_Home "Hi Honey I'm Home."] People have explained the cliche as that it was a followup from the mentality of radio. On a radio show, a character can't just open a door and begin the conversation, because the audience can't see it. They have to open the door and say "hello, I'm home," often with the other characters saying "Why, look, it's XXX." --XXX

That's probly it then. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Suplexing the Couger ==

The Odd thing about that is that I know of no suplex in which the head is downward facing.

All Suplexes I know, involve the heads of both te suplexer and the suplxee to be near to each other when the move is being done.

What stuffed-Strong Bad looks like he's doing is either a piledriver or perhaps a Powerbomb.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 01:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

: Take it from a long-time wrestling fan: what he's doing is indeed a suplex. German suplexes are done differently (with the head right-side up), but that's not what he's doing. Here's how it's done: with the person standing in front of you and facing you, bend them over and put their head under your arm. Grab the waist of their pants with the other arm and lift the person up over your head (they'll be upside down), then pretty much just fall back, making sure to cause as much impact between the other person's back and the ground as possible. This is what stuffed Strong Bad appears to be doing in his pose -- just starting to fall backwards. It's okay if the opponent's head is down by your side instead of by your own head; it's still a suplex. His back will just hit more on your shoulder than the ground. (Sorry if I didn't use proper terminology in this explanation.) -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 06:42, 16 March 2007 (EST)
::In the Kirby type- videogames, he has a move called Suplex, and most of you probably know that. He does a suplex but instead of falling back he grabs them by the neck withouht flipping them back, jumps in the air,and slams the enemy in the ground, then it dies. If anyone wants a look, buy the game or look up Kirby Suplex in Youtube. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:29, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Jar Meniscus ==

Hey, should that be a Fun Fact or something? When Strong Sad is carrying Strong Bad (on the Taranchula scene) the meniscus in the water is still angled to the angle of the jar, rather than horizontal like it should. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 01:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:hey thanks, now I know what the word "meniscus" means. But I still don't see what you are talking about here. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:: The water is defying gravity, essentially. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::Ok, I see it now. The liquid should be level with the horizon to obey the laws of physics. I still dunno about "meniscus", that is the salt water tears of many heartbroken private school girls. Supposedly. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::'Meniscus' is just the scientific term for the top of the liquid, rather than what the liquid is. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Wouldn't that be more of a "goof" than a "remark?" [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, it just seems like weird things that should be correct are more likely in trivia or fun facts, but hey, I'm new here. And yes, 'meniscus' is just the very top of the water. i.e. you look at the meniscus in a measuring cup or a test tube, per se, to find out how much is inside it. -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== The Plagues ==

Hordes of locusts and Famine? Isn't this a clear reference to the 10 plagues of Egypt in the first testament/torah? Or am I missing something? Did someone else catch this?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 22:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's what came to mind when I heard it. [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It might be, but those are not actually limited to biblical times: [[wikipedia:1915 locust plague|1915 locust plague]] and [[wikipedia:Famine|famine]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Locusts was one of the 10 plagues, famine was not. There was famine in Egypt, but that was during the time of Joseph, not Moses. The ten plagues were:
:::#Blood
:::#Frogs
:::#Lice
:::#Flies
:::#Animals dying of disease (there's no shorter way to translate it into English)
:::#Boils
:::#Hail and Fire
:::#Locusts
:::#Darkness
:::#Death of the firstborns
:::For more information see [[Wikipedia:Plagues of Egypt]] or, more directly, Exodus 7:14-12:36. But I don't think that by one of them appearing, especially one of the ones that commonly happens, you can say it's a clear reference, I don't think you can even say it's a reference at all. Maybe if it was about one of the less common ones and specifically mentioned all the water turning to blood, or hail that had fire in it, fine. It's like saying that since [[Blood|blood]] appears commonly in the HR universe, it's also a reference to the plagues. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 10:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:This is a reference to the book of Joel which speaks of "Hordes of locusts and Famine", you can read it online here: http://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1401.htm it's just four short chapters, and you only need to read the first one to get the point. [[User:89.139.134.185|89.139.134.185]] 11:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

==Book of Phone==

The first thing that came to mind when he said it that way was the [[Wikipedia: Book of Genesis|Book of Genesis]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:So? It's obvious this is a Bible reference. Which book? There are many. It's [[TTATOT]] or explaining the joke, pick one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Moreover, Genesis usually isn't read at funerals; "Book of Psalms" or "Book of Lamentations" or something else would have fit better. But I think it's really just a broad Bible reference, and not notable. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:It sounds like the book of Job. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
::It will be unknown forever what book of the Bible he is talking about. but this is no doubt this IS a biblical reference. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:33, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Reotarded? ==

Hey, is anyone else thinking that Strong Bad is making a portmanteau of "leotard" and "retarded" to insult his brother?[[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

:You're definitely right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::No, he's not. It's open to interpretation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Oh I sooo called this. Phlip, you were there, remember? No, "leotarded" is an actual word. If it was supposed to be a portmanteau, it would have been something more clever. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 12:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Yeah, but does that neccesarily mean it can't be a portmanteau too? I mean, "entrangled" is an actual word, but What I Want says it's a portmanteau. Plus it's a funny idea.
:::::I suggest you get your money back on that dictionary, as "entrangled" is not an English word. That leaves your argument that "it's a funny idea" which should never be a major consideration when considering a notable fact here. We are not here to be funny unless it works out that we can be while we are doing what we are here to do: document the work of TBC. "Entrangled" is simply not found anyplace except as a portmanteau in their work. "Leotarded" is not only a legitimate word, but the possible portmanteau is particularly insensitive, one I doubt TBC would use. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think you're thinking of 'entangled'. Like Qermaq says, 'entrangled' isn't a word. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

''entrangled'': '''adverb''' - in a state of entrang.

''entrang'': '''noun''' - I dunno, I think strongbad just made it up.
:It's simply [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entrangled not a word]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Is a similarity a reference??==

Apparently someone thinks strong bad's COOLogy is similar to some ask a ninja thing about pre-recording your final words. I've never seen AaN (so I could be mistaken), but your final words and your eulogy are not the same thing. Also, more importantly, this section is for REFERENCES, not similarities. Unless there's some particular characteristic that makes you think TBC have seen the AaN in question and were intentionally making a reference to it, this should be removed.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 13:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:Many people have precorded last words. It's likely not a reference to anything (i it were, it'd be TTATOT) so I agree. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree as well. Should it be STUFF'd, do you think? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 23:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say STUFF it, but I don't exactly know how to initiate that...([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 16:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC))
::::[[HRWiki:STUFF/Newpage]] has a step by step walkthrough of how to STUFF. By the way, I personally don't think it's a reference of any type, I just think it's Strong Bad being Strong Bad: creating cool, complex ways for simple, boring things. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I followed the walkthrough and started a STUFF page for it. I think I got it right, but this is my first time...[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 18:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

== Wrong note in Chopin... ==

While Strong Bad has never been renowned for singing in tune, I transcribed his singing into these notes:

C---C---C-C---Eb---D-D---C-C---A-C

Well, I wouldn't expect the Brothers Chaps to know the exact key of the original march, but the notes from the main theme were originally: [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Sonata_No.2_%28Chopin%2C_Frederic%29]

Bb---Bb---Bb-Bb---Db---C-C---Bb-Bb---Bb-Bb

As you can see, the second last interval is changed from a unison (tonic to tonic) to a minor third (submediant to tonic). I suppose it's forgivable, considering that a lot of the cartoon and pop culture references to Chopin's funeral march actually change the second last note to a leading tone (the note right below the tonic), but Strong Bad skips yet another tone down. Anyway, that's my music rant for the day.

~Stapler

:Cool, thanks for the analysis! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pine-a for me-a ==

"Pining" is a reference to [[trevor the vampire]], is it not? I noticed that this was a trivia fact in Trogdor when Strong Bad says "I pine for you!"
: It's just a word. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
: PS. The reason it's mentioned for Trogdor is due to the ''way'' he says it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It has been a while since he's used that phrase, and the way it's said seems to suggest a deliberate reference to his older incarnations. Among other things, the "pine-uh for me-uh" is a somewhat exaggerated way of using his old pseudo-Mexican accent ("I like-a to say, 'Holy crap!'"). Think that's got any merit to it? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::To pne means to "Yearn intensely and persistently especially for something unattainable." according to Webster's Dictionary. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:39, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Taxidoimied... Bugs Bunny reference? ==

When Strong Bad says "taxidoimied," I believe it is a reference to Bugs Bunny, who would quite often mispronounce words the same way by pronouncing the "er" in words as "oi" instead. And I can think of no other place he could've gotten that from. Anyone agree? -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 07:17 PM, March 16, 2007 (EST)
:It could be, but I'm tempted to say no. If it's used in places other than Bugs Bunny (and references of it), then probably not. If you can't find anything, it could be, but I'd wait for more responses. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 23:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Where did Mel Blanc get that manner of speech? It's a Brooklyn accent. People in Brooklyn talk like that to this day. This is definitely not a direct reference to Bugs, as that would be TTATOT. It's just a funny pronunciation based on a well-known accent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Absolutely. That accent existed long before Bugs was around. FWIW, Blanc claimed that he combined Brooklyn and Bronx accents to create the rabbit's voice. --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Absoloitly. Not a reference at oil! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Character Variation/Zombie Bad ==

With the character variation article, there's only the one form of strong bad zombie. I think there should be a second entry to cover the 2046 equivalent. [[User:220.245.178.139|220.245.178.139]] 05:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

:Well, the 2046 version of Strong Bad doesn't look any different than normal Strong Bad, other than that he's wearing tattered jeans, has a brain hat on, and is spitting out grape jelly. I'm pretty sure he's still alive there. So.. I don't really think he needs another entry. But.. that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::Of course he's still alive, he says that he hopes the zombies will still let him join their side. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, it's not a variation. It's a costume and should be listed in [[Strong Bad Other Costumes]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Of course he was alive. His eyes were alive. At the two funerals in the emails, his eyes died and lost their greenness when he died. I'm positive they weren't closed because they still have their gradient and he can see with them. I think that might not even be 2046, just staged. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== 5 boom boxes, 1 tape ==

I can't believe no one else has mentioned this yet, but whats the deal with the 5 boom boxes apparently all playing in PERFECT synchronization. and secondly. that coach z breaks into all of them at the exact same time. That essentially means that he wouldve had to record over the original tape before strong bad made copies of it. Thirdly. only 1 of the 5 boomboxes lets u see the tape. Most if not all tape players let u see the tape, so u can tell if its going or not --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 06:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it be a more simple explanation that he's got all 5 wired together to play off of one of the tape decks off one tape? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::Assuming that those old-style boomboxes could even do such a thing - they werent exactly filled with ports and holes for cross-wiring - they all have the play button pushed down, or are saying "playin'" or something...
:::I have an old boom box from 1982 or so that has two sets each, in and out, of RCA jacks. It certainly wasn't top of the line, either. I used it as speakers for my first CD player, and I had to have Play mashed down for the audio to pass through. --Septyn, 18Mar07
:they all have a pause button though... suspension of disbelief!! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::The wires are behind the boomboxes. Believe me, I checked. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::When you're talking about how the boomboxes are set up, how they were taped over, how they're in sync, etc... Just remember, one of the boomboxes is a ''cardboard box with stuff drawn on it''. Then keep the rest in perspective. Seriously. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Hair? ==

Is that pubic hair on the belly of the guy standing next to the Coughin' with the duck shirt?
:No, I'm sure it's intended to be belly hair — TBC work very hard to keep their toons PG. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::[[Wikipedia:Abdominal hair]] {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to be more scared by, the fact that that page exists, or that you found it and linked it, but its definitely belly hair [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 21:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
:: And i dont think you should be considering stuff like that and posting it, becuase there are women on here, such as myself, that would call it crude. some women do not know what that is, so i would put in on the forum, not here. Not trying to be mean, just trying to look out for a man's opposite persuasion. I dont want crude comments on here, but you are welcome to word that a little different. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:43, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Echo ==

How can you have an echo in an open field if there is nothing to reflect your voice off of? --18:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You're in the wrong talk page. You want Drive-Thru. And I don't know why. --[[User:Homestar3.14|Homestar3.14]] 18:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taranchula ==

Shouldn't it be mentioned that Taranchula is a direct reference back to [[death metal]]? I mean, that's where they first appeared.
Ya know... when he started saying how he was going to do something different from Chopin, I thought for sure he was going to say Limozeen...
-Zero.exe
:Eh, it kinda goes without saying. And besides, this isn't even the first email that Taranchula has been mentioned in. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 12:35 AM, 24 March 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, actually, Taranchula was mentioned first in the same e-mail Limozeen was. Then again in the montage one (only breifly, their name was seen on a record). --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Mind Your P's and ... P's. ===
{{stufffact|Since P is the 16th letter in the English alphabet, it makes sense for pizza places to be in chapter 16 of the phone book.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)|23:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|18|0|your funeral}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== A Ninja Reference's Last Words?? ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad recording his own Eulogy is similar to an episode of the popular podcast series, Ask a Ninja, in the episode "Last Words", because he asks people to pre-record their final words.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)|05:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|18|0|your funeral}}

== Off the chain/charts. ==

Now that we know what off the hook, off the grid, and off the wagon mean, we should probably show what being off the chain and off the charts mean, right? I mean I noticed that Off the Chain happens to be some band's album. Same thing with Off the Charts. Go to wikipedia and you'll know what I mean. Are they worth being put in the Real-World References section or not?
-[[User: Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]]
:"Off the charts" is a generic phrase meaning something along the lines of "these readings are so high, our instruments cannot measure them". A thermometer that only went to 100 degrees trying to record a 150-degree temperature would read the temperature as "off the charts". Essentially, it's "higher than you can measure". No idea what "off the chain" means, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== 2046 Strong Sad reference? ==

I just noticed a remarkable similarity between the 2046 version of Strong Sad, and his easter-egg action figure in [[action_figure|sbemail 42]]. Does anyone else think this is noteworthy? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm, on second look, maybe the similarity is just in his arms. Meh. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd say it's just the muscular arms. Similar, but not necessarily a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== The End of the... what the heck? ==

Since my {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466929&oldid=465536 reference}} has created much confusion/edit {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466965&oldid=466958 reversal}}, I will post a better explanation here to start/continue the discussion (I'd rather do this before trying to STUFF anything):

The "reference":
:''The phrases "locusts and famine" and "doomsday device" are references to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].''

First, this is how the conversation transpired (note that once "conversations" start in the edit history, it's best to move them to a talk page):
* Stux (Talk | contribs) (→Real-World References - ref to armageddon (so is the zombie uprising in a way, should that be included?), please rephrase as necessary)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (i doubt that, these phrases are too common)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The phrases came from Armageddon originally, didn't they?)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (nope. locusts and famine are mentioned in the bible, doomsday devices appear in a lot of sci-fi)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The biblical Armegaddon? I just want to be sure we're talking about the same thing.)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (undid revision 466958 by Shwoo (Talk) no)

With more careful though, I realized that these are essentially two separate (but related) references:
*The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction.

To be clear, like Shwoo said I was referring to the biblical Armageddon (per the link provided), not the movie. I thought there were several "end of the world" themes that were left out of the discussion. This also includes the mention of "zombie attacks". Most modern zombie movies portray zombies as an infectious being that can turn the entire world into zombies, thus bringing another "doomsday" scenario. I would like to suggest that these three "doomsday" references be combined into one section with three subsections describing each topic. One last thing: the phrase "locusts and famine" does in fact come from the bible: they're two of the disasters mentioned in the book of revelation. What say ye all? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think that there's enough of a connection to warrant a reference. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree. Similar references have been found in other movies and shows. Anywho, I wanted to present a variation of what I thought the fact could look like:
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*This email makes a few references to the end of the world:
**The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction capable of detroying all life on earth.
----
::Of course I can't think of anything for zombies, as that is a bit more general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think there's that much of a connection for the "locusts and famine" thing. They're both common doomsday scenarios. As for the "doomsday device," that is WAY too general and a little too self-explanatory to be worthy of a reference, in my opinion. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}}

== Zombie Fact ==

Did you know that the zombie effect in Michael Jackson's music video "Thriller", is achieved by the use of grape jelly? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_%28music_video%29#Trivia [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, it's already in the article, ignore me. [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

:Okay! {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 20:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gray eyes? ==

*Both when dead and as a zombie (at the funeral), Stong Bad's eyes look as they did back in the early Tandy emails, just blackish-grey.

Okay, so when I first saw this, my immediate response was, "Wait, Strong Bad's eyes never looked like that." Just to be certain, I went all the way back to [[some kinda robot]] and, sure enough, his eyes were green. Unless all the Tandy emails were edited later so he had green eyes (and I'm not sure why they would have ever been grey in the Tandy emails, seeing as how his eyes were even green in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]), this fact is... well, what's the phrase I'm looking for... not true. Unless there's something I don't know (and if there is, somebody please fill me in), I'm removing this fact pending further discussion. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

:I think it means: They have the ''style'' of the Tandymails (without the 2 little circles in the corner of his eyes), but instead of green they're blackish-gray. --[[User:AlmsforthePudgy|AlmsforthePudgy]] 14:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wow. That really needs a rewording. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wait, no, I take it back... it doesn't really seem noteworthy. If they're not the same color, what's the point in drawing the comparison? {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Maybe his eyes are just grey when he is unconcious, or asleep, bacause when Strong Bad has his eyelids lowered, his eyelids are black. Plus, we have not seen a photo or toon/sbemail of strong bad sleeping facing the camera. think about it, we dont have any evidence to be trying to make theories about that scene. we havent seen SB unconcious facing the camera. we saw him sleeping, but he was facing towards the inside of the couch in [[Routine]] and [[Cheatday]]. thats it. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:50, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Its a refrence to Meta Knight, from the Kirby series on tv. When he is sleeping, his eyes go from yellow to a orange light thats turned off. horrible description, but you probably know what i mean. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:52, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's Room? ==

The Purple Room in the Easter Egg could be 2046 Strong Sad's Room
:Is it? Last time I read, it was a warehouse.---{{User:Record307/sig}} 00:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::"Could be" means speculation. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:04, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

== He will die before 2046????? ==

Did strong Bad just say that he will be dead before the so- mentioned zombie uprising? Because he said he would be participating in the beginning when he was saying when the zombie uprising would be? Everyone, listen a little harder: [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:56, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:your funeral

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:52:40 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Gray eyes? */

Talk:your funeral

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:50:55 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Gray eyes? */

== 2:03 ==

I think that when Strong Bad mentions that the zombies will come at 2:03 it is a reference to Strong Sad's Lament when he says that Tuesdays at 2:03 is his favorite time.
:- It's possible, but it's a bit of a stretch. Especially since March 31, 2047 falls on a Saturday. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::But the easter egg takes place in ''2046''. In which case March 31 is a Sunday. Either way, it's not Tuesday. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Sad likes Tuesdays at 3:02, not 2:03. [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 02:35, 16 March 2007

== Homestar and Marzipan ==

I'm not sure if it belongs on the wiki, but is it possible that Homestar and Marzipan live with each other? The front of Marzipan's house looks the same, and Homestar's broken Cow lamp may be a different room besides the front. should this be on their relationship page?

:I don't think so. Marzipan's house is blue, as seen in 2003 Halloween toon [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and Homestar is trick or treating at this house. Though Homestar is kinda funny and doesn't think somethings through most of the time, I don't think he would trick or treat at his own home. Homestar's house is gray as seen in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However it could be that this ''is'' the same house and is only colored based on the season (blue because it's night and grey because of the cold snow). [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 16:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::If you look on the pages for [[Homestar's House]] and [[Marzipan's House]], the interior rooms look different, meaning they can't live together. On the other hand, that makes me wonder why he said, "Marzipan, I'm home!" when he doesn't actually live there. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Huh. Maybe that was just Homestar being Homestar and confirming things he doesn't even know about. Kind of like the whole "It's time for tasteball!", "Oh, crap. Tasteball already." bit. 18:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:This scene is Strong Bad's future speculation (after all, he's dead at this point). It's possible that Homestar and Marzipan could be cohabitating at this future time, no? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:In the commentary for [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], TBC said that they didn't want anyone thinking that Homestar and Marzipan live together (or something to that effect). [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Can I help?==
can I help with trying to find some glitches? -[[User:TheDenzel|The Denzel]] 01:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Do whatever you want to help. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== the email is down right now. ==

This probably means it will soon be updated in a way that will be of interest for the 'glitch/trivia' section.[[User:168.156.44.101|168.156.44.101]] 02:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:...uh, no. It's not. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:(if you are getting a 404'd from it, hold down the shift key and hit the reload button) {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 02:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It perhaps wasn't gone for long, I reloaded it SEVERAL during a few minutes when it wouldn't seem to appear.[[User:24.22.145.14|24.22.145.14]] 05:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::This is unremarkable, it happens all the time. It's on your end. You need to clear your cache or force a reload using the aforementioned trick. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Homestar lip dot?==
When Homestar is reading from the phone book, one of the mouth frames has a black dot on it, and shows up whenever that particular frame is up. — [[User:69.105.202.40|69.105.202.40]] ([[User talk:69.105.202.40|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.105.202.40|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

- Check please. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I checked the email. The dot is very small and faint, but it does trully exist. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::frame 2031, it is an error with his eye. when he closes his eyes, one of them does not get fully erased. {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::If it is not noticeable to the viewer except by manipulation, it's not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Too far? ==

O_O Too... i dunno. Definitely not for kids. More PG-13 rated.

[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Uh... Why? Because there's corpses? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 02:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It's all pretty cartoony, expecially how Strong Bad continues to fail staying dead. Strong Bad waking up with an exposed ribcage creeped me out a little, but I wouldn't say the email went too far. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I think they were in danger of going too far, given the rather morbid question, but I have to say they handled it quite nicely. I mean, Homestar reading from the phone book at a eulogy? Genius! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::: Got it! [[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Getting a bit forumy here. Let's keep this page about the content. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:No one ever made the claim that Homestar Runner was a cartoon for children. (In fact, in the email "For kids," Strong Bad is quite opposed to the idea, heh.) I didn't see you complaining when one of the members of Blue Laser got a fork jammed in his eye. Stop taking it so seriously. [[User:0rion|0rion]]
::[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=10241 Read this thread]. I don't know if the person who started this section complained about it, but some people have. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Ummm, I don't know why, but this e-mail creeped me out too. Everybody! is right. I know, I know, I'm weird... Also, my friend was talking to me about this website, and she said it was a family website. 0.o I dunno.--[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 21:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Please do not add to this forum-style topic. This talk page is for discussing article content only.'''
::I think itsa little creepy, i dont get creeped out like that, but its definatly not in the category of PG-13. I think it should not be seen for girls under the age of 7, and boys under the age of 4. LOL! [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:20, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Egg - future SB ==

Are you sure he's a zombie in the egg? When he came out of the jar as a zombie he had black eyes and a visible rib. In the egg it looks like he's just stuck somethng to his head, put on some tattered jeans and is spitting out a mouthful of grape jelly. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. I think he's still alive there.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Which would agree with what he said at the end of the email. How he hoped the zombies would let him be on their side, even though he was alive. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:While I see where you all are coming from, in my opinion, SB acts more like a zombie in the easter egg than in the e-mail. That is, in the e-mail proper, he has complete and full consciousness, while such presumably cannot be said for egg SB. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, he ''acts'' like a zombie, anyone can spit out jelly while saying "Blarg". - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]]
:::I don't exactly follow. It's true that ''anyone'' can spit out jelly and say, "Blarg." My point is that it would be unthinkable, or at least improbable, that a zombie would speak coherently and recognize people, as Strong Bad does when he breaks out of the jar. I was merely pointing out that easter egg SB seems more zombie-esque (by merit of being less human-esque) than he does in the e-mail itself. It also seems likely that he's just pretending to be a zombie, as this is hinted at in the end of the e-mail. So, in my opinion, he's not really a zombie in either scenario. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 19:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::It's kinda hard to just be ''pretending'' your a zombie when your skin is tattered and rotting and your ribcage is exposed. I see your point, and it's valid, but it still doesn't justify why he'd still be alive when he breaks out of the jar. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 7:04 PM, March 18, 2007 (EST)

== References in future characters? ==

Do you think Future Pom Pom and Future Strong Sad are references in themselves? Future Pom Pom looks a lot like Duke Nukem... — [[User:68.44.220.232|68.44.220.232]] ([[User talk:68.44.220.232|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.44.220.232|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])
:By their faces, beards, cigars, and ammo belts, I am willing to wager that it is a reference to the Contra series of video games and the 2 main chracters from the original game in that series. See the picture located [http://www.racketboy.com/retro/contra-arcade.jpg here] for confirmation purposes.~[[User:DanZero|DanZero]] 06:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Interesting — I wonder if there's a closer reference though, only because Contra doesn't have anything like zombies in it. Or maybe it's just a general reference to that style of gritty '80s action hero... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Sure does seem to look a lot like contra... hard to piece together why they'd use that tho. other than the fact that it was like the best game ever --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 07:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I just thought they were the archetype of futuristic survivors. I didn't see a particular reference, it's endemic to the genre. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::I thought Strong Sad was a bit reminiscent of Snake Plissken from the film "Escape From New York", but it might just be me. [[User:Klarsh|Klarsh]] 16:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Not sure how relevant it is, but am I alone in thinking there are similarities between future Strong Sad and the Strong Sad action figure? -Xerzes, who hasn't done this enough to remember how to make the sig and timestamp happen.

::My first impression was that Pom Pom looked like Cable from the X-Men animated series but it's been a while since I've seen that. An X-Men connection could explain the Doomsday device though, which was created to kill all the mutants (or in this case, zombies). Then again, post-apocalyptic scenarios with cigars and doomsday devices are pretty common! [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 12:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:::It's probably just TTATOT, seeing how many references we've been able to come up with. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

== screaming yellow ==

Is there any evidence that this is really a reference to the candy, and not say, to the car? Either seems pretty much arbitrary to me. Perhaps the candy is a bit more in "TBC style" as far as references go (so retro). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: But TBC didn't make the reference... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::yes, of course, since this is in the body of the email received, it should be assumed that TBC are refering to nothing at all, and it's simply word for word the email they received. At any rate, it feels like speculation to me. Though, there are only 2 or 3 things in the popular lexicon that I can imagine the author of the email intended. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it was a faulty reference to Dripping Yellow Madness. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 05:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Although I have no problems in keeping the reference out (since any reference made by a fan is borderline as it is), I don't think it's a matter of [[TTATOT]]. I'm almost certain that it's a reference to Screamin' Yellow Zonkers. If this gets taken to a vote, I'll green light it, but as of right now, I have no problems with it being left out. - [[User:0rion|0rion]]
Removed as speculation, we have no idea what the author intended and there is more than one
possiblity {{User:Bryanc/sig}}:
<blockquote>*'Screaming Yellow Strong Bad' is presumably a reference to the snack food [[Wikipedia:Screaming Yellow Zonkers|Screaming Yellow Zonkers]].</blockquote>
Ideas in the email itself are not TBC created, and as such are not notable references in nearly all cases. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: I think they should have continued the joke...I mean, Screaming Yellow Zonkers? Screaming Yellow Zombie? I'm not sayings it's comedic gold,like commas, but it's definitely the same style humor as this website. ~ Shadix

In my mind, I thought it was a reference to [[Unseen Characters|Dripping Yellow Madness]] from [[Cool Things]], but since it was part of the e-mail rather than something that's within the toon inself, I didn't bother mentioning anything. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 15:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Vocal Effect ==

What effect did they put on Strong bads Voice when he was "zombiefied" its Awesome, and being the Avant-Garde Musician, it would help a lot (music wise). Thanks.

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i think it's an allusion to what happens to the character "jordy" (played by stephen king) in the movie creepshow. the undead jordy sounds just like the undead strong bad.

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Awesome, ill read up on that. now i need to find out how to replicate it ^^

FWIW, it's used in the movie "Creepshow" AGAIN as the vocal effect on the dead father in "Father's Day"...

: Months late and dollars short, but it's a question worth answering in case the asker ever looks again. You can probably achieve this effect or something very similar to it with extreme settings on a [[Wikipedia:Flanging|flanger]]. Sounds like a modulation frequency of at least 15 Hz and probably zero feedback, but I can't guess at the modulation depth or wet/dry mix without experimentation. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Passion Reference?? ==

Am I the only one who sees a ridiculous amount of Passion of the Christ references? Strong Sad carrying the jar like the cross while being whipped, Strong Bad's exposed ribcage, references to the repeatedly changed day of prophecy that the souls of the dead will come back as zombies and attack the living? Am I crazy or just the only one morbid enough to see it?
*You're crazy and unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: Ah, very good then. Thought: Baleeted.
::And you're still unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The first two I could kind of understand, though I would call them more coincidental. The last one makes no sense: when in Mel Gibson's film did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed day of a prophecy that souls of the dead will come back and attack the living? [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:Never seen the movie, but when in ''this email'' did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed date that souls of the dead would come back? Strong Bad didn't change the date of the zombie revolution; he just got more and more specific as to the time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Does the whipping thing reference ''anything''? it seems like it should... --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:No, it's just a poke at slavery. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 18:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== 2046? 20X6? ==

Could this be a reference? I know it means that 2046 is NOT 20X6 (as the characters look completely different from their 20X6 forms) but could the similarity of the years be a reference? You know, a nudge from TBC, baiting us, telling us "Hey, here's one that it's NOT, good luck figuring out which one it IS." [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think that 20X6 is actually one year, or else last year would also be 20X6. When Sam (from Concord, California) who asked the e-mail in [[time capsule]] said it would be opened in X0 years, I think Strong Bad took X0 as an actual way to calculate time in years. {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::That does not directly address the question I brought up in any way. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the year "2046" often used in some comicbooks to depict a future alternate reality? I know there's a movie called [[Wikipedia:2046 (film)|2046]], but I don't recall zombies in that. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 14:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I think you're talking about 2099. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
:Well, I know I looked on the back of a really old Metroid game box in a computer store and it said "In the year 20X5..." -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 22:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, you guys. Have a look at the intro paragraph of [[20X6]] ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fourth wall Break? ==

Marzipan just leaned over the edge of the left side of the frame. Is this a fourth wall break? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:You're joking right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 13:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Don't be mean. Now, I can see what you're trying to say. If she physically manipulated the frame (which we wouldn't be able to see anyway), THEN it would be a fourth wall break. As far as we're concerned, it's like someone leaning away from they're cooking to talk to their relative, or something. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 14:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh thanks for your help Bryanc. B-( {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 19:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I did not mean to be rude, I'm very sorry I came across that way. But this is not close to what a break in the theatrical 4th wall means. A "fourth wall" break is when the actors acknowledge that they are actors. It was to be somewhat jarring, like out of nowhere Strong Sad looks into the camera and says "Hello!". That is breaking 4th wall. It's toyed with a lot and the lines are blurred here. Which makes it a little difficult to say what and what.
{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

==Addendum==

An addendum is "something added or to be added, especially a supplement to a book". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's nice to know. go ahead and put it under the "Explanations" sectionor the remarks section. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno — do we usually list definitions of words under Explanations, unless it has something to do with the context of the toon? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Breaking References??==
I'm against listing "So Cold" by Breaking Benjamin as a reference for the funeral procession. I just watched the video again on Youtube, and there's nothing there to link it as a reference, beyond the fact that they're both funeral processions, which is far from unique. At the very least, I think the wording should be changed, "oddly reminiscent" is too vague and seems to me to be an admission that it's not really a reference. Either re-word it into a definite, specific reference or get rid of it completely. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's a reference either. I say, go ahead and remove it, and if anyone thinks it should stay they can STUFF it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Bibendum image ==

The Bibendum easter egg isn't just a Michelin reference, it's a direct reference to [http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Le-Pneu-Michelin-Nunc-Est-Bibendum-Giclee-Print-C12046037.jpeg this classic ad]. According to [[Wikipedia:Michelin#Bibendum|Wikipedia]], which provides a translation of the ad's text, the name of the mascot (which is Latin for "to drink") originated with this ad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 19:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, good find — you're right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Good job. you can go ahead and put that on the page WITH the picture.
:Waaait a second there, man. "bibendum" is a gerund, so it just means "drinking" (in its use as a noun, not a verb or adjective, e.g. "Drinking is fun").
::The image is clearly a reference to the ad, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Newlydead ==
When Strong Bad said 'newlydead', do you think he was making a play on 'newlywed'? I know it doesn't really fit the context, but just by the way it sounds...maybe not....--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I'd say that's probably where he derived the word. Typical Strong Bad coinage, I'd say. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Count me in too. An easy pun Strong Bad would say. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. Very yes. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 21:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Chaup au Fan? ==

What is a "Chaup au Fan"? If anyone knows, this should be added to Explanations. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:It sounds like very poor and broken French. Literally, I think it would be "[Nonexistent word] to the fan[as in, a Homestar fan, not a fan which would move air]." Perhaps by « Chaup » they were trying to make "Chap" sound more French? Thus, the image was created by the Chaps for a fan? Chaup could be a French word, I'm not certain (I'm only in fifth-year French), but it's not one I've ever heard, nor can I find it in my dictionary. Oh, and by the way, the pronunciation (following the IPA standards) would probably be something like: ʃop o fɑ̃ [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

::While I appreciate the linguistic exploration (I do love those), I'm assuming it must actually mean something. It's unlike TBC to include something like this which is made up out of whole cloth. There's gotta be a meaning to this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:::True; "From the Chaps, for a fan" would be my best guess at the actual meaning, but who knows. Again, maybe they just wanted to make it look French, Michelin being a French company. I'll look into the issue further.[[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:I may be completely crazy, but it seems to me to be similar to the way Strong Sad produces "Chaparone" in senior prom. Anyone? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's just Strong Sad's (quite good) French accent that makes them sound similiar. And I favor an explantion of what this term means by someone who knows as I've been able to find nothing about it. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::: It's pretty much just nonsense. There's a "translation" up there ^ a few lines, but it's just telling you that what Strong Sad's saying doesn't make sense. I've taken four years of French and I can tell you thatit's garbage. Pure garbage, sister. Also, I feel that SS's accent leaves much to be desired... he overdoes it on many an occasion. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Apparently at this point we're confident that "Chaup au Fan" is simply gibberish. While saying that, and noting the relation to dance terms as the context of the toon supports, are notable, the speculative meanings are just that, and as such I will remove them from the article and note them in this thread.

:*The way it's initially said by Strong Bad and Strong Sad sounds like a mispronunciation of "coq au vin," which is chicken in wine sauce, a popular French dish. It might also be an intentional misspelling (to seem even more French) of the term "chapeau fan," which would literally translate as a "fan hat" (e.g. a baseball cap pertaining to a favorite team).

::::{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Put him in a jar? ==

I don't hear "put him in a jar," but rather "brother in a jar." Anyone else? -just a random newb

Actually, I thought it sounded like "funeral in a jar" [[User:63.165.156.213|63.165.156.213]] 23:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

not enough syllables. speaking of, when they say it the third time, and also in the easter egg, they run the words together, so it's more like "puteminajar". does anyone else think this should be indicated in the transcript? [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:I definitely heard brother on a second viewing. Also, it could be "fun'ral," so syllables aren't an issue. Could we maybe get a vote? I cast my vote... '''BROTHER'''-wards! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:It doesn't sound like "brother" to me. There's no r sound. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 06:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I definitely heard "put him" (I was the transcriber.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I hear "brother in a jar". -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 01:45, 16 March 2007 (CST)
::::I also definitely hear "put him".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::While I'm not sure exactly what it says, I am pretty certain that I hear neither "brother in a jar" nor "put him in a jar." I've listened to it over and over again, and instead of "in," it sounds like it's saying "for," though I have not been able to come up with a wording for the sentence in which that would make sense. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 03:11, 16 March 2007 (EST)
:I watched it three times this week and heard "Brother in a jar." I also thought "fall back" was "Pom Bag" and that it was supposed to be 2046 Pom Pom's name. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::I hear "Put him in a jar" [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 17:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::My best guess is "Pull him from the jar". I definitely hear it starting with "P" sound, and I'm pretty sure about the "f" sound ("from" or maybe "for") and "the jar" instead of "a jar". Maybe the second word is "it" instead of "him". But maybe we'd better just wait til they release it as a quote. I hope they do! -another random newb, 22:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, your guess sounds a lot closer.

Should we add a footnote to the transcript? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:We don't usually do that when we're unsure.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::I found similar footnotes in [[boring (really)]] and [[candy product]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The footnote is useful when there is no consensus, or equal consensus for different options. In this case I don't really know if there us consesnus, but I'm personally happy to allow the footnote to remain as proposed while discussion ensues. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I watched it several times, and I always heard "put him in a jar". Well, more like "puteminajar", as Neumannz said. It also makes more sense. I can't see "brother in a jar" being relevant, and about "funeral in a jar", the funeral isn't in the jar. It's in.. wherever the funeral is. But that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

:I hear "put him in a jar" too, which makes the most sense, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I can only hear "put him in a jar". ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 23:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC))

Well, now that the Quote of the Week says "brother" instead of "put him", I may suggest every single change to the transcript and subtitles once again. Man, same issue with Marzipan's word booty. Anyway, I'm only visiting, and then I'm leaving again. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, that goes without saying. We don't really need to be reminded to make those changes. (He's talking about [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-22|this quote]], by the way.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yay, I got it! And some others, but not the majority, got it too! [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
:High fives all around! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 03:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yay! -just the random newb who started all of this
:::The QotW says "brother in a jar", but I hear "put him in a jar". Ignore the "User:". [[User:Neox]]

== Coach Z 1234 Beat ==

The beat in Strong Bad's funeral kind of sounds like the #1 hit: [[These Peoples Try To Fade Me]] -{{User:Viklas/sig}}

:Sounded more like Another One Bites The Dust to me... [[User:74.119.23.212|74.119.23.212]] 00:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:TTAOT, it sounded like a generic rap to me. Which could sound like a lot of raps. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== World War Z ==

This is really just idle speculation, but has anyone hear ever read World War Z? It's a story about what would happen if Zombies really did attack humanity within the next 30-40 years. I'm pretty sure that TBC hasn't even heard of the book, but still, I feel like this deserves a minor refrence due to the similarities, like here, on the talk page. Also, could Screaming Yellow be a reference to Kyle the Yellow Dart Smith? Again, idle speculation
:Actually, I was more apt to believe the zombie references in this email have to do with the horror/sci-fi genre of video games and movies, like Resident Evil and the like. But that's already starting down the TTATOT path. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::'''NEVER''' use my name in vain. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:There's also a book called ''The Zombie Survival Guide'', and probably countless others in the same strain. You could never have a reference, it's just TTATOT. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::How coincidental. I was reading both those books just today. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::It was probably a reference to "Dripping Yellow Madness." [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think the zombie uprising was a reference to anything in particular, because that's been used in a lot of different stories/movies/whatever. And I'm really not sure what Screaming Yellow was a reference to, but since it was from the fan, they could be just writing random words or something to make it sound funny. Who knows?
::::Also, what's TTATOT mean? {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 21:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::See [[TTATOT]]: "'This That And The Other Thing.' Applicable when a reference in a toon could refer to one of many similar things. The rule of thumb is that if it could apply to several things, it probably refers to nothing in particular."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== Same? ==

Is Strong Sad really saying the same thing that his Bibendum advert has written out? It sounds more like he's saying chapon fond, chape en front, chape en fan, or even chapeau fort, more than Chaup au fan. Unless he just has horrible French pronunciation. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:There's no copy in that ad which would be reasonably mispronounced by a moderately-educated person as "Chap au fan" - and this is TBC we're talking about. This is clearly something but what? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:Just a wild shot in the dark, but we are talking about the Chap brothers' website, right?

:I'm pretty sure he is indeed saying the same thing as the text in the ad, but there might be an off chance it's "something enfant". Perhaps "Chaps enfant" meaning that Strong Bad is a (brain)child of the Brothers Chaps. It's a bit of a stretch, and I think in proper French the "s" at the end of "Chaps" would be pronounced at the beginning of "enfant" anyway. Just a thought. - {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:Strong Sad's pronuciation in French is, whenever he's done it before, quite good. It would be out of character if he were screwing this up. Any dancers out there? I really would like to know what Monsieur Sad is referring to. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a ballroom dancer. I think what Strong Sad is saying is "chassé font" (pronounced more or less like what Strong Sad said, like "schahs auh faunt") which is a move we use in ballroom to mean a long step forward, followed by sliding the other foot to neutral position again. In other words, extend the first (usually right) leg like a lady's lunge in tango, then slide the other foot back, the foot ending sideways. Does that make sense? The only problem I see is that isn't really a flashy move, so why would SS want to show it off? [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

::Is that how it's pronounced in ballroom dancing terms? Because in French, it would be pronounced more like "shahs say fon(with a nasal 't' suggested at the end)." [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::I don't speak a word of French, so I'm probably entirely inaccurate in the pronunciation. My ballroom teacher is from Wisconsin, so that probably influences the accent a bit ;) [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]
:::I think you mean a nasal "n" sound. The t is silent. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::That's why I said it was suggested at the end; the nasalization of the "n" suggests a "t" afterwards. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::::Oh. That's kinda weird, but okay, I guess. Really, though, the nasal n could suggest other letters, so I would have just said that, but hey, whatever floats your boat. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 13:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::One thing I also thought of, silly as it may be: this may also link to SB's comment about a "chappy thong." Reason being is if you aren't used to moving correctly, certain garments like to wedge themselves in uncomfortable places. [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

== Phone Book ==

Anyone else notice that this is the second email in a row to refer to a phone book? The last has Homestar mentioning that the "real money is in" phone books, and this one has has the reading from the "book of phone." Is this, perhaps, setting itself up as another running gag? Or, more interestingly, might it somehow be tied into the recent DNA references? --left unsigned

:Hm -- I think it's a coincidence. Much like the [[Talk:unnatural#Chocolate cake again! I said chocolate cake again!|chocolate cake]] reference in [[unnatural]], there's nothing else that ties it to the previous appearance... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:We'll see if it comes up again next email [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

::Yeah, probably just a coincidence. But I still think the chocolate cake thing was anything but coincidental.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 11:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Mycology and Leonard part 6 ==

the tape in the boOOMmbox says my c00logy, which is much like mycology, the study of fungi. fungi eat dead people. fungi probably are eating dead strong bad.<s> fun fact?</s> notable? prolly. also, the reference to leotards being part of a weapon is reminescent of Leonard part 6. {{User:Csours/sig}} 17:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's notable. He's just emphasizing how COOL his eulogy is. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 17:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed. (And it probably needs adding to [[Portmanteaus]]. I'll go do that now...) {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::: <strike>Just another thought- should it go in [[Internet Slang]] too? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)</strike>
::::...actually, now that I look at it, it's COOLogy rather than c00logy, so discount that.{{User:Kahteh/sig}} 22:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's notable to point out that this webpage may be the only webpage in existence that refers to both The Passion and Leonard Part 6
:::::[http://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=3fc&q=%22Passion%20of%20the%20Christ%22%20%22Leonard%20Part%206%22&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=iw That's simply not true.] --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fixed it? ==

I re-watched the e-mail again, and it looks like that when he says "funeral's" he actually types funeral's now.

== "Marizipan i'm home!" ==

I can't think what, but I'm sure this is a parody on something, there was a TV show where sombody said "*Someone* I'm home!" in very similar mannor... [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 21:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:It's basically a cliche by now... It was done a lot in those '50s shows. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe "Lucy, I'm home!"? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 22:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:It was such a cliche on black and white tv shows that there was a truly terrible television show, a parody (though really stretching the definition of the word) made for Nick at Nite in the late early '90's named after it. (I can't believe that they actually made a wiki article about it, but yeah, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi_Honey%2C_I%27m_Home "Hi Honey I'm Home."] People have explained the cliche as that it was a followup from the mentality of radio. On a radio show, a character can't just open a door and begin the conversation, because the audience can't see it. They have to open the door and say "hello, I'm home," often with the other characters saying "Why, look, it's XXX." --XXX

That's probly it then. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Suplexing the Couger ==

The Odd thing about that is that I know of no suplex in which the head is downward facing.

All Suplexes I know, involve the heads of both te suplexer and the suplxee to be near to each other when the move is being done.

What stuffed-Strong Bad looks like he's doing is either a piledriver or perhaps a Powerbomb.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 01:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

: Take it from a long-time wrestling fan: what he's doing is indeed a suplex. German suplexes are done differently (with the head right-side up), but that's not what he's doing. Here's how it's done: with the person standing in front of you and facing you, bend them over and put their head under your arm. Grab the waist of their pants with the other arm and lift the person up over your head (they'll be upside down), then pretty much just fall back, making sure to cause as much impact between the other person's back and the ground as possible. This is what stuffed Strong Bad appears to be doing in his pose -- just starting to fall backwards. It's okay if the opponent's head is down by your side instead of by your own head; it's still a suplex. His back will just hit more on your shoulder than the ground. (Sorry if I didn't use proper terminology in this explanation.) -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 06:42, 16 March 2007 (EST)
::In the Kirby type- videogames, he has a move called Suplex, and most of you probably know that. He does a suplex but instead of falling back he grabs them by the neck withouht flipping them back, jumps in the air,and slams the enemy in the ground, then it dies. If anyone wants a look, buy the game or look up Kirby Suplex in Youtube. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:29, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Jar Meniscus ==

Hey, should that be a Fun Fact or something? When Strong Sad is carrying Strong Bad (on the Taranchula scene) the meniscus in the water is still angled to the angle of the jar, rather than horizontal like it should. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 01:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:hey thanks, now I know what the word "meniscus" means. But I still don't see what you are talking about here. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:: The water is defying gravity, essentially. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::Ok, I see it now. The liquid should be level with the horizon to obey the laws of physics. I still dunno about "meniscus", that is the salt water tears of many heartbroken private school girls. Supposedly. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::'Meniscus' is just the scientific term for the top of the liquid, rather than what the liquid is. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Wouldn't that be more of a "goof" than a "remark?" [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, it just seems like weird things that should be correct are more likely in trivia or fun facts, but hey, I'm new here. And yes, 'meniscus' is just the very top of the water. i.e. you look at the meniscus in a measuring cup or a test tube, per se, to find out how much is inside it. -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== The Plagues ==

Hordes of locusts and Famine? Isn't this a clear reference to the 10 plagues of Egypt in the first testament/torah? Or am I missing something? Did someone else catch this?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 22:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's what came to mind when I heard it. [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It might be, but those are not actually limited to biblical times: [[wikipedia:1915 locust plague|1915 locust plague]] and [[wikipedia:Famine|famine]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Locusts was one of the 10 plagues, famine was not. There was famine in Egypt, but that was during the time of Joseph, not Moses. The ten plagues were:
:::#Blood
:::#Frogs
:::#Lice
:::#Flies
:::#Animals dying of disease (there's no shorter way to translate it into English)
:::#Boils
:::#Hail and Fire
:::#Locusts
:::#Darkness
:::#Death of the firstborns
:::For more information see [[Wikipedia:Plagues of Egypt]] or, more directly, Exodus 7:14-12:36. But I don't think that by one of them appearing, especially one of the ones that commonly happens, you can say it's a clear reference, I don't think you can even say it's a reference at all. Maybe if it was about one of the less common ones and specifically mentioned all the water turning to blood, or hail that had fire in it, fine. It's like saying that since [[Blood|blood]] appears commonly in the HR universe, it's also a reference to the plagues. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 10:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:This is a reference to the book of Joel which speaks of "Hordes of locusts and Famine", you can read it online here: http://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1401.htm it's just four short chapters, and you only need to read the first one to get the point. [[User:89.139.134.185|89.139.134.185]] 11:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

==Book of Phone==

The first thing that came to mind when he said it that way was the [[Wikipedia: Book of Genesis|Book of Genesis]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:So? It's obvious this is a Bible reference. Which book? There are many. It's [[TTATOT]] or explaining the joke, pick one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Moreover, Genesis usually isn't read at funerals; "Book of Psalms" or "Book of Lamentations" or something else would have fit better. But I think it's really just a broad Bible reference, and not notable. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:It sounds like the book of Job. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
::It will be unknown forever what book of the Bible he is talking about. but this is no doubt this IS a biblical reference. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:33, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Reotarded? ==

Hey, is anyone else thinking that Strong Bad is making a portmanteau of "leotard" and "retarded" to insult his brother?[[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

:You're definitely right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::No, he's not. It's open to interpretation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Oh I sooo called this. Phlip, you were there, remember? No, "leotarded" is an actual word. If it was supposed to be a portmanteau, it would have been something more clever. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 12:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Yeah, but does that neccesarily mean it can't be a portmanteau too? I mean, "entrangled" is an actual word, but What I Want says it's a portmanteau. Plus it's a funny idea.
:::::I suggest you get your money back on that dictionary, as "entrangled" is not an English word. That leaves your argument that "it's a funny idea" which should never be a major consideration when considering a notable fact here. We are not here to be funny unless it works out that we can be while we are doing what we are here to do: document the work of TBC. "Entrangled" is simply not found anyplace except as a portmanteau in their work. "Leotarded" is not only a legitimate word, but the possible portmanteau is particularly insensitive, one I doubt TBC would use. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think you're thinking of 'entangled'. Like Qermaq says, 'entrangled' isn't a word. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

''entrangled'': '''adverb''' - in a state of entrang.

''entrang'': '''noun''' - I dunno, I think strongbad just made it up.
:It's simply [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entrangled not a word]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Is a similarity a reference??==

Apparently someone thinks strong bad's COOLogy is similar to some ask a ninja thing about pre-recording your final words. I've never seen AaN (so I could be mistaken), but your final words and your eulogy are not the same thing. Also, more importantly, this section is for REFERENCES, not similarities. Unless there's some particular characteristic that makes you think TBC have seen the AaN in question and were intentionally making a reference to it, this should be removed.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 13:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:Many people have precorded last words. It's likely not a reference to anything (i it were, it'd be TTATOT) so I agree. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree as well. Should it be STUFF'd, do you think? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 23:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say STUFF it, but I don't exactly know how to initiate that...([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 16:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC))
::::[[HRWiki:STUFF/Newpage]] has a step by step walkthrough of how to STUFF. By the way, I personally don't think it's a reference of any type, I just think it's Strong Bad being Strong Bad: creating cool, complex ways for simple, boring things. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I followed the walkthrough and started a STUFF page for it. I think I got it right, but this is my first time...[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 18:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

== Wrong note in Chopin... ==

While Strong Bad has never been renowned for singing in tune, I transcribed his singing into these notes:

C---C---C-C---Eb---D-D---C-C---A-C

Well, I wouldn't expect the Brothers Chaps to know the exact key of the original march, but the notes from the main theme were originally: [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Sonata_No.2_%28Chopin%2C_Frederic%29]

Bb---Bb---Bb-Bb---Db---C-C---Bb-Bb---Bb-Bb

As you can see, the second last interval is changed from a unison (tonic to tonic) to a minor third (submediant to tonic). I suppose it's forgivable, considering that a lot of the cartoon and pop culture references to Chopin's funeral march actually change the second last note to a leading tone (the note right below the tonic), but Strong Bad skips yet another tone down. Anyway, that's my music rant for the day.

~Stapler

:Cool, thanks for the analysis! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pine-a for me-a ==

"Pining" is a reference to [[trevor the vampire]], is it not? I noticed that this was a trivia fact in Trogdor when Strong Bad says "I pine for you!"
: It's just a word. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
: PS. The reason it's mentioned for Trogdor is due to the ''way'' he says it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It has been a while since he's used that phrase, and the way it's said seems to suggest a deliberate reference to his older incarnations. Among other things, the "pine-uh for me-uh" is a somewhat exaggerated way of using his old pseudo-Mexican accent ("I like-a to say, 'Holy crap!'"). Think that's got any merit to it? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::To pne means to "Yearn intensely and persistently especially for something unattainable." according to Webster's Dictionary. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:39, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Taxidoimied... Bugs Bunny reference? ==

When Strong Bad says "taxidoimied," I believe it is a reference to Bugs Bunny, who would quite often mispronounce words the same way by pronouncing the "er" in words as "oi" instead. And I can think of no other place he could've gotten that from. Anyone agree? -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 07:17 PM, March 16, 2007 (EST)
:It could be, but I'm tempted to say no. If it's used in places other than Bugs Bunny (and references of it), then probably not. If you can't find anything, it could be, but I'd wait for more responses. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 23:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Where did Mel Blanc get that manner of speech? It's a Brooklyn accent. People in Brooklyn talk like that to this day. This is definitely not a direct reference to Bugs, as that would be TTATOT. It's just a funny pronunciation based on a well-known accent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Absolutely. That accent existed long before Bugs was around. FWIW, Blanc claimed that he combined Brooklyn and Bronx accents to create the rabbit's voice. --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Absoloitly. Not a reference at oil! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Character Variation/Zombie Bad ==

With the character variation article, there's only the one form of strong bad zombie. I think there should be a second entry to cover the 2046 equivalent. [[User:220.245.178.139|220.245.178.139]] 05:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

:Well, the 2046 version of Strong Bad doesn't look any different than normal Strong Bad, other than that he's wearing tattered jeans, has a brain hat on, and is spitting out grape jelly. I'm pretty sure he's still alive there. So.. I don't really think he needs another entry. But.. that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::Of course he's still alive, he says that he hopes the zombies will still let him join their side. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, it's not a variation. It's a costume and should be listed in [[Strong Bad Other Costumes]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Of course he was alive. His eyes were alive. At the two funerals in the emails, his eyes died and lost their greenness when he died. I'm positive they weren't closed because they still have their gradient and he can see with them. I think that might not even be 2046, just staged. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== 5 boom boxes, 1 tape ==

I can't believe no one else has mentioned this yet, but whats the deal with the 5 boom boxes apparently all playing in PERFECT synchronization. and secondly. that coach z breaks into all of them at the exact same time. That essentially means that he wouldve had to record over the original tape before strong bad made copies of it. Thirdly. only 1 of the 5 boomboxes lets u see the tape. Most if not all tape players let u see the tape, so u can tell if its going or not --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 06:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it be a more simple explanation that he's got all 5 wired together to play off of one of the tape decks off one tape? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::Assuming that those old-style boomboxes could even do such a thing - they werent exactly filled with ports and holes for cross-wiring - they all have the play button pushed down, or are saying "playin'" or something...
:::I have an old boom box from 1982 or so that has two sets each, in and out, of RCA jacks. It certainly wasn't top of the line, either. I used it as speakers for my first CD player, and I had to have Play mashed down for the audio to pass through. --Septyn, 18Mar07
:they all have a pause button though... suspension of disbelief!! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::The wires are behind the boomboxes. Believe me, I checked. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::When you're talking about how the boomboxes are set up, how they were taped over, how they're in sync, etc... Just remember, one of the boomboxes is a ''cardboard box with stuff drawn on it''. Then keep the rest in perspective. Seriously. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Hair? ==

Is that pubic hair on the belly of the guy standing next to the Coughin' with the duck shirt?
:No, I'm sure it's intended to be belly hair — TBC work very hard to keep their toons PG. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::[[Wikipedia:Abdominal hair]] {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to be more scared by, the fact that that page exists, or that you found it and linked it, but its definitely belly hair [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 21:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
:: And i dont think you should be considering stuff like that and posting it, becuase there are women on here, such as myself, that would call it crude. some women do not know what that is, so i would put in on the forum, not here. Not trying to be mean, just trying to look out for a man's opposite persuasion. I dont want crude comments on here, but you are welcome to word that a little different. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:43, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Echo ==

How can you have an echo in an open field if there is nothing to reflect your voice off of? --18:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You're in the wrong talk page. You want Drive-Thru. And I don't know why. --[[User:Homestar3.14|Homestar3.14]] 18:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taranchula ==

Shouldn't it be mentioned that Taranchula is a direct reference back to [[death metal]]? I mean, that's where they first appeared.
Ya know... when he started saying how he was going to do something different from Chopin, I thought for sure he was going to say Limozeen...
-Zero.exe
:Eh, it kinda goes without saying. And besides, this isn't even the first email that Taranchula has been mentioned in. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 12:35 AM, 24 March 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, actually, Taranchula was mentioned first in the same e-mail Limozeen was. Then again in the montage one (only breifly, their name was seen on a record). --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Mind Your P's and ... P's. ===
{{stufffact|Since P is the 16th letter in the English alphabet, it makes sense for pizza places to be in chapter 16 of the phone book.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)|23:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|18|0|your funeral}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== A Ninja Reference's Last Words?? ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad recording his own Eulogy is similar to an episode of the popular podcast series, Ask a Ninja, in the episode "Last Words", because he asks people to pre-record their final words.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)|05:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|18|0|your funeral}}

== Off the chain/charts. ==

Now that we know what off the hook, off the grid, and off the wagon mean, we should probably show what being off the chain and off the charts mean, right? I mean I noticed that Off the Chain happens to be some band's album. Same thing with Off the Charts. Go to wikipedia and you'll know what I mean. Are they worth being put in the Real-World References section or not?
-[[User: Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]]
:"Off the charts" is a generic phrase meaning something along the lines of "these readings are so high, our instruments cannot measure them". A thermometer that only went to 100 degrees trying to record a 150-degree temperature would read the temperature as "off the charts". Essentially, it's "higher than you can measure". No idea what "off the chain" means, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== 2046 Strong Sad reference? ==

I just noticed a remarkable similarity between the 2046 version of Strong Sad, and his easter-egg action figure in [[action_figure|sbemail 42]]. Does anyone else think this is noteworthy? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm, on second look, maybe the similarity is just in his arms. Meh. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd say it's just the muscular arms. Similar, but not necessarily a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== The End of the... what the heck? ==

Since my {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466929&oldid=465536 reference}} has created much confusion/edit {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466965&oldid=466958 reversal}}, I will post a better explanation here to start/continue the discussion (I'd rather do this before trying to STUFF anything):

The "reference":
:''The phrases "locusts and famine" and "doomsday device" are references to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].''

First, this is how the conversation transpired (note that once "conversations" start in the edit history, it's best to move them to a talk page):
* Stux (Talk | contribs) (→Real-World References - ref to armageddon (so is the zombie uprising in a way, should that be included?), please rephrase as necessary)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (i doubt that, these phrases are too common)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The phrases came from Armageddon originally, didn't they?)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (nope. locusts and famine are mentioned in the bible, doomsday devices appear in a lot of sci-fi)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The biblical Armegaddon? I just want to be sure we're talking about the same thing.)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (undid revision 466958 by Shwoo (Talk) no)

With more careful though, I realized that these are essentially two separate (but related) references:
*The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction.

To be clear, like Shwoo said I was referring to the biblical Armageddon (per the link provided), not the movie. I thought there were several "end of the world" themes that were left out of the discussion. This also includes the mention of "zombie attacks". Most modern zombie movies portray zombies as an infectious being that can turn the entire world into zombies, thus bringing another "doomsday" scenario. I would like to suggest that these three "doomsday" references be combined into one section with three subsections describing each topic. One last thing: the phrase "locusts and famine" does in fact come from the bible: they're two of the disasters mentioned in the book of revelation. What say ye all? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think that there's enough of a connection to warrant a reference. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree. Similar references have been found in other movies and shows. Anywho, I wanted to present a variation of what I thought the fact could look like:
----
*This email makes a few references to the end of the world:
**The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction capable of detroying all life on earth.
----
::Of course I can't think of anything for zombies, as that is a bit more general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think there's that much of a connection for the "locusts and famine" thing. They're both common doomsday scenarios. As for the "doomsday device," that is WAY too general and a little too self-explanatory to be worthy of a reference, in my opinion. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}}

== Zombie Fact ==

Did you know that the zombie effect in Michael Jackson's music video "Thriller", is achieved by the use of grape jelly? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_%28music_video%29#Trivia [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, it's already in the article, ignore me. [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

:Okay! {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 20:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gray eyes? ==

*Both when dead and as a zombie (at the funeral), Stong Bad's eyes look as they did back in the early Tandy emails, just blackish-grey.

Okay, so when I first saw this, my immediate response was, "Wait, Strong Bad's eyes never looked like that." Just to be certain, I went all the way back to [[some kinda robot]] and, sure enough, his eyes were green. Unless all the Tandy emails were edited later so he had green eyes (and I'm not sure why they would have ever been grey in the Tandy emails, seeing as how his eyes were even green in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]), this fact is... well, what's the phrase I'm looking for... not true. Unless there's something I don't know (and if there is, somebody please fill me in), I'm removing this fact pending further discussion. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

:I think it means: They have the ''style'' of the Tandymails (without the 2 little circles in the corner of his eyes), but instead of green they're blackish-gray. --[[User:AlmsforthePudgy|AlmsforthePudgy]] 14:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wow. That really needs a rewording. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wait, no, I take it back... it doesn't really seem noteworthy. If they're not the same color, what's the point in drawing the comparison? {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Maybe his eyes are just grey when he is unconcious, or asleep, bacause when Strong Bad has his eyelids lowered, his eyelids are black. Plus, we have not seen a photo or toon/sbemail of strong bad sleeping facing the camera. think about it, we dont have any evidence to be trying to make theories about that scene. we havent seen SB unconcious facing the camera. we saw him sleeping, but he was facing towards the inside of the couch in [[Routine]] and [[Cheatday]]. thats it. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:50, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's Room? ==

The Purple Room in the Easter Egg could be 2046 Strong Sad's Room
:Is it? Last time I read, it was a warehouse.---{{User:Record307/sig}} 00:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::"Could be" means speculation. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:04, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:your funeral

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:43:56 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Hair? */

== 2:03 ==

I think that when Strong Bad mentions that the zombies will come at 2:03 it is a reference to Strong Sad's Lament when he says that Tuesdays at 2:03 is his favorite time.
:- It's possible, but it's a bit of a stretch. Especially since March 31, 2047 falls on a Saturday. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::But the easter egg takes place in ''2046''. In which case March 31 is a Sunday. Either way, it's not Tuesday. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Sad likes Tuesdays at 3:02, not 2:03. [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 02:35, 16 March 2007

== Homestar and Marzipan ==

I'm not sure if it belongs on the wiki, but is it possible that Homestar and Marzipan live with each other? The front of Marzipan's house looks the same, and Homestar's broken Cow lamp may be a different room besides the front. should this be on their relationship page?

:I don't think so. Marzipan's house is blue, as seen in 2003 Halloween toon [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and Homestar is trick or treating at this house. Though Homestar is kinda funny and doesn't think somethings through most of the time, I don't think he would trick or treat at his own home. Homestar's house is gray as seen in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However it could be that this ''is'' the same house and is only colored based on the season (blue because it's night and grey because of the cold snow). [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 16:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::If you look on the pages for [[Homestar's House]] and [[Marzipan's House]], the interior rooms look different, meaning they can't live together. On the other hand, that makes me wonder why he said, "Marzipan, I'm home!" when he doesn't actually live there. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Huh. Maybe that was just Homestar being Homestar and confirming things he doesn't even know about. Kind of like the whole "It's time for tasteball!", "Oh, crap. Tasteball already." bit. 18:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:This scene is Strong Bad's future speculation (after all, he's dead at this point). It's possible that Homestar and Marzipan could be cohabitating at this future time, no? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:In the commentary for [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], TBC said that they didn't want anyone thinking that Homestar and Marzipan live together (or something to that effect). [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Can I help?==
can I help with trying to find some glitches? -[[User:TheDenzel|The Denzel]] 01:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Do whatever you want to help. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== the email is down right now. ==

This probably means it will soon be updated in a way that will be of interest for the 'glitch/trivia' section.[[User:168.156.44.101|168.156.44.101]] 02:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:...uh, no. It's not. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:(if you are getting a 404'd from it, hold down the shift key and hit the reload button) {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 02:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It perhaps wasn't gone for long, I reloaded it SEVERAL during a few minutes when it wouldn't seem to appear.[[User:24.22.145.14|24.22.145.14]] 05:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::This is unremarkable, it happens all the time. It's on your end. You need to clear your cache or force a reload using the aforementioned trick. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Homestar lip dot?==
When Homestar is reading from the phone book, one of the mouth frames has a black dot on it, and shows up whenever that particular frame is up. — [[User:69.105.202.40|69.105.202.40]] ([[User talk:69.105.202.40|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.105.202.40|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

- Check please. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I checked the email. The dot is very small and faint, but it does trully exist. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::frame 2031, it is an error with his eye. when he closes his eyes, one of them does not get fully erased. {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::If it is not noticeable to the viewer except by manipulation, it's not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Too far? ==

O_O Too... i dunno. Definitely not for kids. More PG-13 rated.

[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Uh... Why? Because there's corpses? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 02:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It's all pretty cartoony, expecially how Strong Bad continues to fail staying dead. Strong Bad waking up with an exposed ribcage creeped me out a little, but I wouldn't say the email went too far. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I think they were in danger of going too far, given the rather morbid question, but I have to say they handled it quite nicely. I mean, Homestar reading from the phone book at a eulogy? Genius! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::: Got it! [[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Getting a bit forumy here. Let's keep this page about the content. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:No one ever made the claim that Homestar Runner was a cartoon for children. (In fact, in the email "For kids," Strong Bad is quite opposed to the idea, heh.) I didn't see you complaining when one of the members of Blue Laser got a fork jammed in his eye. Stop taking it so seriously. [[User:0rion|0rion]]
::[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=10241 Read this thread]. I don't know if the person who started this section complained about it, but some people have. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Ummm, I don't know why, but this e-mail creeped me out too. Everybody! is right. I know, I know, I'm weird... Also, my friend was talking to me about this website, and she said it was a family website. 0.o I dunno.--[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 21:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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::I think itsa little creepy, i dont get creeped out like that, but its definatly not in the category of PG-13. I think it should not be seen for girls under the age of 7, and boys under the age of 4. LOL! [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:20, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Egg - future SB ==

Are you sure he's a zombie in the egg? When he came out of the jar as a zombie he had black eyes and a visible rib. In the egg it looks like he's just stuck somethng to his head, put on some tattered jeans and is spitting out a mouthful of grape jelly. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. I think he's still alive there.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Which would agree with what he said at the end of the email. How he hoped the zombies would let him be on their side, even though he was alive. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:While I see where you all are coming from, in my opinion, SB acts more like a zombie in the easter egg than in the e-mail. That is, in the e-mail proper, he has complete and full consciousness, while such presumably cannot be said for egg SB. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, he ''acts'' like a zombie, anyone can spit out jelly while saying "Blarg". - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]]
:::I don't exactly follow. It's true that ''anyone'' can spit out jelly and say, "Blarg." My point is that it would be unthinkable, or at least improbable, that a zombie would speak coherently and recognize people, as Strong Bad does when he breaks out of the jar. I was merely pointing out that easter egg SB seems more zombie-esque (by merit of being less human-esque) than he does in the e-mail itself. It also seems likely that he's just pretending to be a zombie, as this is hinted at in the end of the e-mail. So, in my opinion, he's not really a zombie in either scenario. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 19:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::It's kinda hard to just be ''pretending'' your a zombie when your skin is tattered and rotting and your ribcage is exposed. I see your point, and it's valid, but it still doesn't justify why he'd still be alive when he breaks out of the jar. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 7:04 PM, March 18, 2007 (EST)

== References in future characters? ==

Do you think Future Pom Pom and Future Strong Sad are references in themselves? Future Pom Pom looks a lot like Duke Nukem... — [[User:68.44.220.232|68.44.220.232]] ([[User talk:68.44.220.232|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.44.220.232|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])
:By their faces, beards, cigars, and ammo belts, I am willing to wager that it is a reference to the Contra series of video games and the 2 main chracters from the original game in that series. See the picture located [http://www.racketboy.com/retro/contra-arcade.jpg here] for confirmation purposes.~[[User:DanZero|DanZero]] 06:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Interesting — I wonder if there's a closer reference though, only because Contra doesn't have anything like zombies in it. Or maybe it's just a general reference to that style of gritty '80s action hero... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Sure does seem to look a lot like contra... hard to piece together why they'd use that tho. other than the fact that it was like the best game ever --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 07:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I just thought they were the archetype of futuristic survivors. I didn't see a particular reference, it's endemic to the genre. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::I thought Strong Sad was a bit reminiscent of Snake Plissken from the film "Escape From New York", but it might just be me. [[User:Klarsh|Klarsh]] 16:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Not sure how relevant it is, but am I alone in thinking there are similarities between future Strong Sad and the Strong Sad action figure? -Xerzes, who hasn't done this enough to remember how to make the sig and timestamp happen.

::My first impression was that Pom Pom looked like Cable from the X-Men animated series but it's been a while since I've seen that. An X-Men connection could explain the Doomsday device though, which was created to kill all the mutants (or in this case, zombies). Then again, post-apocalyptic scenarios with cigars and doomsday devices are pretty common! [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 12:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:::It's probably just TTATOT, seeing how many references we've been able to come up with. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

== screaming yellow ==

Is there any evidence that this is really a reference to the candy, and not say, to the car? Either seems pretty much arbitrary to me. Perhaps the candy is a bit more in "TBC style" as far as references go (so retro). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: But TBC didn't make the reference... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::yes, of course, since this is in the body of the email received, it should be assumed that TBC are refering to nothing at all, and it's simply word for word the email they received. At any rate, it feels like speculation to me. Though, there are only 2 or 3 things in the popular lexicon that I can imagine the author of the email intended. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it was a faulty reference to Dripping Yellow Madness. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 05:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Although I have no problems in keeping the reference out (since any reference made by a fan is borderline as it is), I don't think it's a matter of [[TTATOT]]. I'm almost certain that it's a reference to Screamin' Yellow Zonkers. If this gets taken to a vote, I'll green light it, but as of right now, I have no problems with it being left out. - [[User:0rion|0rion]]
Removed as speculation, we have no idea what the author intended and there is more than one
possiblity {{User:Bryanc/sig}}:
<blockquote>*'Screaming Yellow Strong Bad' is presumably a reference to the snack food [[Wikipedia:Screaming Yellow Zonkers|Screaming Yellow Zonkers]].</blockquote>
Ideas in the email itself are not TBC created, and as such are not notable references in nearly all cases. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: I think they should have continued the joke...I mean, Screaming Yellow Zonkers? Screaming Yellow Zombie? I'm not sayings it's comedic gold,like commas, but it's definitely the same style humor as this website. ~ Shadix

In my mind, I thought it was a reference to [[Unseen Characters|Dripping Yellow Madness]] from [[Cool Things]], but since it was part of the e-mail rather than something that's within the toon inself, I didn't bother mentioning anything. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 15:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Vocal Effect ==

What effect did they put on Strong bads Voice when he was "zombiefied" its Awesome, and being the Avant-Garde Musician, it would help a lot (music wise). Thanks.

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i think it's an allusion to what happens to the character "jordy" (played by stephen king) in the movie creepshow. the undead jordy sounds just like the undead strong bad.

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Awesome, ill read up on that. now i need to find out how to replicate it ^^

FWIW, it's used in the movie "Creepshow" AGAIN as the vocal effect on the dead father in "Father's Day"...

: Months late and dollars short, but it's a question worth answering in case the asker ever looks again. You can probably achieve this effect or something very similar to it with extreme settings on a [[Wikipedia:Flanging|flanger]]. Sounds like a modulation frequency of at least 15 Hz and probably zero feedback, but I can't guess at the modulation depth or wet/dry mix without experimentation. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Passion Reference?? ==

Am I the only one who sees a ridiculous amount of Passion of the Christ references? Strong Sad carrying the jar like the cross while being whipped, Strong Bad's exposed ribcage, references to the repeatedly changed day of prophecy that the souls of the dead will come back as zombies and attack the living? Am I crazy or just the only one morbid enough to see it?
*You're crazy and unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: Ah, very good then. Thought: Baleeted.
::And you're still unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The first two I could kind of understand, though I would call them more coincidental. The last one makes no sense: when in Mel Gibson's film did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed day of a prophecy that souls of the dead will come back and attack the living? [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:Never seen the movie, but when in ''this email'' did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed date that souls of the dead would come back? Strong Bad didn't change the date of the zombie revolution; he just got more and more specific as to the time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Does the whipping thing reference ''anything''? it seems like it should... --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:No, it's just a poke at slavery. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 18:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== 2046? 20X6? ==

Could this be a reference? I know it means that 2046 is NOT 20X6 (as the characters look completely different from their 20X6 forms) but could the similarity of the years be a reference? You know, a nudge from TBC, baiting us, telling us "Hey, here's one that it's NOT, good luck figuring out which one it IS." [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think that 20X6 is actually one year, or else last year would also be 20X6. When Sam (from Concord, California) who asked the e-mail in [[time capsule]] said it would be opened in X0 years, I think Strong Bad took X0 as an actual way to calculate time in years. {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::That does not directly address the question I brought up in any way. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the year "2046" often used in some comicbooks to depict a future alternate reality? I know there's a movie called [[Wikipedia:2046 (film)|2046]], but I don't recall zombies in that. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 14:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I think you're talking about 2099. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
:Well, I know I looked on the back of a really old Metroid game box in a computer store and it said "In the year 20X5..." -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 22:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, you guys. Have a look at the intro paragraph of [[20X6]] ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fourth wall Break? ==

Marzipan just leaned over the edge of the left side of the frame. Is this a fourth wall break? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:You're joking right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 13:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Don't be mean. Now, I can see what you're trying to say. If she physically manipulated the frame (which we wouldn't be able to see anyway), THEN it would be a fourth wall break. As far as we're concerned, it's like someone leaning away from they're cooking to talk to their relative, or something. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 14:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh thanks for your help Bryanc. B-( {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 19:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I did not mean to be rude, I'm very sorry I came across that way. But this is not close to what a break in the theatrical 4th wall means. A "fourth wall" break is when the actors acknowledge that they are actors. It was to be somewhat jarring, like out of nowhere Strong Sad looks into the camera and says "Hello!". That is breaking 4th wall. It's toyed with a lot and the lines are blurred here. Which makes it a little difficult to say what and what.
{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

==Addendum==

An addendum is "something added or to be added, especially a supplement to a book". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's nice to know. go ahead and put it under the "Explanations" sectionor the remarks section. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno — do we usually list definitions of words under Explanations, unless it has something to do with the context of the toon? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Breaking References??==
I'm against listing "So Cold" by Breaking Benjamin as a reference for the funeral procession. I just watched the video again on Youtube, and there's nothing there to link it as a reference, beyond the fact that they're both funeral processions, which is far from unique. At the very least, I think the wording should be changed, "oddly reminiscent" is too vague and seems to me to be an admission that it's not really a reference. Either re-word it into a definite, specific reference or get rid of it completely. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's a reference either. I say, go ahead and remove it, and if anyone thinks it should stay they can STUFF it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Bibendum image ==

The Bibendum easter egg isn't just a Michelin reference, it's a direct reference to [http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Le-Pneu-Michelin-Nunc-Est-Bibendum-Giclee-Print-C12046037.jpeg this classic ad]. According to [[Wikipedia:Michelin#Bibendum|Wikipedia]], which provides a translation of the ad's text, the name of the mascot (which is Latin for "to drink") originated with this ad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 19:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, good find — you're right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Good job. you can go ahead and put that on the page WITH the picture.
:Waaait a second there, man. "bibendum" is a gerund, so it just means "drinking" (in its use as a noun, not a verb or adjective, e.g. "Drinking is fun").
::The image is clearly a reference to the ad, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Newlydead ==
When Strong Bad said 'newlydead', do you think he was making a play on 'newlywed'? I know it doesn't really fit the context, but just by the way it sounds...maybe not....--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I'd say that's probably where he derived the word. Typical Strong Bad coinage, I'd say. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Count me in too. An easy pun Strong Bad would say. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. Very yes. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 21:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Chaup au Fan? ==

What is a "Chaup au Fan"? If anyone knows, this should be added to Explanations. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:It sounds like very poor and broken French. Literally, I think it would be "[Nonexistent word] to the fan[as in, a Homestar fan, not a fan which would move air]." Perhaps by « Chaup » they were trying to make "Chap" sound more French? Thus, the image was created by the Chaps for a fan? Chaup could be a French word, I'm not certain (I'm only in fifth-year French), but it's not one I've ever heard, nor can I find it in my dictionary. Oh, and by the way, the pronunciation (following the IPA standards) would probably be something like: ʃop o fɑ̃ [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

::While I appreciate the linguistic exploration (I do love those), I'm assuming it must actually mean something. It's unlike TBC to include something like this which is made up out of whole cloth. There's gotta be a meaning to this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:::True; "From the Chaps, for a fan" would be my best guess at the actual meaning, but who knows. Again, maybe they just wanted to make it look French, Michelin being a French company. I'll look into the issue further.[[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:I may be completely crazy, but it seems to me to be similar to the way Strong Sad produces "Chaparone" in senior prom. Anyone? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's just Strong Sad's (quite good) French accent that makes them sound similiar. And I favor an explantion of what this term means by someone who knows as I've been able to find nothing about it. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::: It's pretty much just nonsense. There's a "translation" up there ^ a few lines, but it's just telling you that what Strong Sad's saying doesn't make sense. I've taken four years of French and I can tell you thatit's garbage. Pure garbage, sister. Also, I feel that SS's accent leaves much to be desired... he overdoes it on many an occasion. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Apparently at this point we're confident that "Chaup au Fan" is simply gibberish. While saying that, and noting the relation to dance terms as the context of the toon supports, are notable, the speculative meanings are just that, and as such I will remove them from the article and note them in this thread.

:*The way it's initially said by Strong Bad and Strong Sad sounds like a mispronunciation of "coq au vin," which is chicken in wine sauce, a popular French dish. It might also be an intentional misspelling (to seem even more French) of the term "chapeau fan," which would literally translate as a "fan hat" (e.g. a baseball cap pertaining to a favorite team).

::::{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Put him in a jar? ==

I don't hear "put him in a jar," but rather "brother in a jar." Anyone else? -just a random newb

Actually, I thought it sounded like "funeral in a jar" [[User:63.165.156.213|63.165.156.213]] 23:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

not enough syllables. speaking of, when they say it the third time, and also in the easter egg, they run the words together, so it's more like "puteminajar". does anyone else think this should be indicated in the transcript? [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:I definitely heard brother on a second viewing. Also, it could be "fun'ral," so syllables aren't an issue. Could we maybe get a vote? I cast my vote... '''BROTHER'''-wards! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:It doesn't sound like "brother" to me. There's no r sound. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 06:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I definitely heard "put him" (I was the transcriber.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I hear "brother in a jar". -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 01:45, 16 March 2007 (CST)
::::I also definitely hear "put him".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::While I'm not sure exactly what it says, I am pretty certain that I hear neither "brother in a jar" nor "put him in a jar." I've listened to it over and over again, and instead of "in," it sounds like it's saying "for," though I have not been able to come up with a wording for the sentence in which that would make sense. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 03:11, 16 March 2007 (EST)
:I watched it three times this week and heard "Brother in a jar." I also thought "fall back" was "Pom Bag" and that it was supposed to be 2046 Pom Pom's name. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::I hear "Put him in a jar" [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 17:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::My best guess is "Pull him from the jar". I definitely hear it starting with "P" sound, and I'm pretty sure about the "f" sound ("from" or maybe "for") and "the jar" instead of "a jar". Maybe the second word is "it" instead of "him". But maybe we'd better just wait til they release it as a quote. I hope they do! -another random newb, 22:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, your guess sounds a lot closer.

Should we add a footnote to the transcript? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:We don't usually do that when we're unsure.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::I found similar footnotes in [[boring (really)]] and [[candy product]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The footnote is useful when there is no consensus, or equal consensus for different options. In this case I don't really know if there us consesnus, but I'm personally happy to allow the footnote to remain as proposed while discussion ensues. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I watched it several times, and I always heard "put him in a jar". Well, more like "puteminajar", as Neumannz said. It also makes more sense. I can't see "brother in a jar" being relevant, and about "funeral in a jar", the funeral isn't in the jar. It's in.. wherever the funeral is. But that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

:I hear "put him in a jar" too, which makes the most sense, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I can only hear "put him in a jar". ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 23:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC))

Well, now that the Quote of the Week says "brother" instead of "put him", I may suggest every single change to the transcript and subtitles once again. Man, same issue with Marzipan's word booty. Anyway, I'm only visiting, and then I'm leaving again. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, that goes without saying. We don't really need to be reminded to make those changes. (He's talking about [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-22|this quote]], by the way.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yay, I got it! And some others, but not the majority, got it too! [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
:High fives all around! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 03:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yay! -just the random newb who started all of this
:::The QotW says "brother in a jar", but I hear "put him in a jar". Ignore the "User:". [[User:Neox]]

== Coach Z 1234 Beat ==

The beat in Strong Bad's funeral kind of sounds like the #1 hit: [[These Peoples Try To Fade Me]] -{{User:Viklas/sig}}

:Sounded more like Another One Bites The Dust to me... [[User:74.119.23.212|74.119.23.212]] 00:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:TTAOT, it sounded like a generic rap to me. Which could sound like a lot of raps. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== World War Z ==

This is really just idle speculation, but has anyone hear ever read World War Z? It's a story about what would happen if Zombies really did attack humanity within the next 30-40 years. I'm pretty sure that TBC hasn't even heard of the book, but still, I feel like this deserves a minor refrence due to the similarities, like here, on the talk page. Also, could Screaming Yellow be a reference to Kyle the Yellow Dart Smith? Again, idle speculation
:Actually, I was more apt to believe the zombie references in this email have to do with the horror/sci-fi genre of video games and movies, like Resident Evil and the like. But that's already starting down the TTATOT path. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::'''NEVER''' use my name in vain. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:There's also a book called ''The Zombie Survival Guide'', and probably countless others in the same strain. You could never have a reference, it's just TTATOT. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::How coincidental. I was reading both those books just today. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::It was probably a reference to "Dripping Yellow Madness." [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think the zombie uprising was a reference to anything in particular, because that's been used in a lot of different stories/movies/whatever. And I'm really not sure what Screaming Yellow was a reference to, but since it was from the fan, they could be just writing random words or something to make it sound funny. Who knows?
::::Also, what's TTATOT mean? {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 21:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::See [[TTATOT]]: "'This That And The Other Thing.' Applicable when a reference in a toon could refer to one of many similar things. The rule of thumb is that if it could apply to several things, it probably refers to nothing in particular."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== Same? ==

Is Strong Sad really saying the same thing that his Bibendum advert has written out? It sounds more like he's saying chapon fond, chape en front, chape en fan, or even chapeau fort, more than Chaup au fan. Unless he just has horrible French pronunciation. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:There's no copy in that ad which would be reasonably mispronounced by a moderately-educated person as "Chap au fan" - and this is TBC we're talking about. This is clearly something but what? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:Just a wild shot in the dark, but we are talking about the Chap brothers' website, right?

:I'm pretty sure he is indeed saying the same thing as the text in the ad, but there might be an off chance it's "something enfant". Perhaps "Chaps enfant" meaning that Strong Bad is a (brain)child of the Brothers Chaps. It's a bit of a stretch, and I think in proper French the "s" at the end of "Chaps" would be pronounced at the beginning of "enfant" anyway. Just a thought. - {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:Strong Sad's pronuciation in French is, whenever he's done it before, quite good. It would be out of character if he were screwing this up. Any dancers out there? I really would like to know what Monsieur Sad is referring to. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a ballroom dancer. I think what Strong Sad is saying is "chassé font" (pronounced more or less like what Strong Sad said, like "schahs auh faunt") which is a move we use in ballroom to mean a long step forward, followed by sliding the other foot to neutral position again. In other words, extend the first (usually right) leg like a lady's lunge in tango, then slide the other foot back, the foot ending sideways. Does that make sense? The only problem I see is that isn't really a flashy move, so why would SS want to show it off? [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

::Is that how it's pronounced in ballroom dancing terms? Because in French, it would be pronounced more like "shahs say fon(with a nasal 't' suggested at the end)." [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::I don't speak a word of French, so I'm probably entirely inaccurate in the pronunciation. My ballroom teacher is from Wisconsin, so that probably influences the accent a bit ;) [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]
:::I think you mean a nasal "n" sound. The t is silent. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::That's why I said it was suggested at the end; the nasalization of the "n" suggests a "t" afterwards. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::::Oh. That's kinda weird, but okay, I guess. Really, though, the nasal n could suggest other letters, so I would have just said that, but hey, whatever floats your boat. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 13:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::One thing I also thought of, silly as it may be: this may also link to SB's comment about a "chappy thong." Reason being is if you aren't used to moving correctly, certain garments like to wedge themselves in uncomfortable places. [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

== Phone Book ==

Anyone else notice that this is the second email in a row to refer to a phone book? The last has Homestar mentioning that the "real money is in" phone books, and this one has has the reading from the "book of phone." Is this, perhaps, setting itself up as another running gag? Or, more interestingly, might it somehow be tied into the recent DNA references? --left unsigned

:Hm -- I think it's a coincidence. Much like the [[Talk:unnatural#Chocolate cake again! I said chocolate cake again!|chocolate cake]] reference in [[unnatural]], there's nothing else that ties it to the previous appearance... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:We'll see if it comes up again next email [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

::Yeah, probably just a coincidence. But I still think the chocolate cake thing was anything but coincidental.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 11:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Mycology and Leonard part 6 ==

the tape in the boOOMmbox says my c00logy, which is much like mycology, the study of fungi. fungi eat dead people. fungi probably are eating dead strong bad.<s> fun fact?</s> notable? prolly. also, the reference to leotards being part of a weapon is reminescent of Leonard part 6. {{User:Csours/sig}} 17:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's notable. He's just emphasizing how COOL his eulogy is. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 17:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed. (And it probably needs adding to [[Portmanteaus]]. I'll go do that now...) {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::: <strike>Just another thought- should it go in [[Internet Slang]] too? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)</strike>
::::...actually, now that I look at it, it's COOLogy rather than c00logy, so discount that.{{User:Kahteh/sig}} 22:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's notable to point out that this webpage may be the only webpage in existence that refers to both The Passion and Leonard Part 6
:::::[http://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=3fc&q=%22Passion%20of%20the%20Christ%22%20%22Leonard%20Part%206%22&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=iw That's simply not true.] --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fixed it? ==

I re-watched the e-mail again, and it looks like that when he says "funeral's" he actually types funeral's now.

== "Marizipan i'm home!" ==

I can't think what, but I'm sure this is a parody on something, there was a TV show where sombody said "*Someone* I'm home!" in very similar mannor... [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 21:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:It's basically a cliche by now... It was done a lot in those '50s shows. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe "Lucy, I'm home!"? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 22:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:It was such a cliche on black and white tv shows that there was a truly terrible television show, a parody (though really stretching the definition of the word) made for Nick at Nite in the late early '90's named after it. (I can't believe that they actually made a wiki article about it, but yeah, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi_Honey%2C_I%27m_Home "Hi Honey I'm Home."] People have explained the cliche as that it was a followup from the mentality of radio. On a radio show, a character can't just open a door and begin the conversation, because the audience can't see it. They have to open the door and say "hello, I'm home," often with the other characters saying "Why, look, it's XXX." --XXX

That's probly it then. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Suplexing the Couger ==

The Odd thing about that is that I know of no suplex in which the head is downward facing.

All Suplexes I know, involve the heads of both te suplexer and the suplxee to be near to each other when the move is being done.

What stuffed-Strong Bad looks like he's doing is either a piledriver or perhaps a Powerbomb.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 01:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

: Take it from a long-time wrestling fan: what he's doing is indeed a suplex. German suplexes are done differently (with the head right-side up), but that's not what he's doing. Here's how it's done: with the person standing in front of you and facing you, bend them over and put their head under your arm. Grab the waist of their pants with the other arm and lift the person up over your head (they'll be upside down), then pretty much just fall back, making sure to cause as much impact between the other person's back and the ground as possible. This is what stuffed Strong Bad appears to be doing in his pose -- just starting to fall backwards. It's okay if the opponent's head is down by your side instead of by your own head; it's still a suplex. His back will just hit more on your shoulder than the ground. (Sorry if I didn't use proper terminology in this explanation.) -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 06:42, 16 March 2007 (EST)
::In the Kirby type- videogames, he has a move called Suplex, and most of you probably know that. He does a suplex but instead of falling back he grabs them by the neck withouht flipping them back, jumps in the air,and slams the enemy in the ground, then it dies. If anyone wants a look, buy the game or look up Kirby Suplex in Youtube. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:29, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Jar Meniscus ==

Hey, should that be a Fun Fact or something? When Strong Sad is carrying Strong Bad (on the Taranchula scene) the meniscus in the water is still angled to the angle of the jar, rather than horizontal like it should. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 01:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:hey thanks, now I know what the word "meniscus" means. But I still don't see what you are talking about here. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:: The water is defying gravity, essentially. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::Ok, I see it now. The liquid should be level with the horizon to obey the laws of physics. I still dunno about "meniscus", that is the salt water tears of many heartbroken private school girls. Supposedly. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::'Meniscus' is just the scientific term for the top of the liquid, rather than what the liquid is. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Wouldn't that be more of a "goof" than a "remark?" [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, it just seems like weird things that should be correct are more likely in trivia or fun facts, but hey, I'm new here. And yes, 'meniscus' is just the very top of the water. i.e. you look at the meniscus in a measuring cup or a test tube, per se, to find out how much is inside it. -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== The Plagues ==

Hordes of locusts and Famine? Isn't this a clear reference to the 10 plagues of Egypt in the first testament/torah? Or am I missing something? Did someone else catch this?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 22:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's what came to mind when I heard it. [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It might be, but those are not actually limited to biblical times: [[wikipedia:1915 locust plague|1915 locust plague]] and [[wikipedia:Famine|famine]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Locusts was one of the 10 plagues, famine was not. There was famine in Egypt, but that was during the time of Joseph, not Moses. The ten plagues were:
:::#Blood
:::#Frogs
:::#Lice
:::#Flies
:::#Animals dying of disease (there's no shorter way to translate it into English)
:::#Boils
:::#Hail and Fire
:::#Locusts
:::#Darkness
:::#Death of the firstborns
:::For more information see [[Wikipedia:Plagues of Egypt]] or, more directly, Exodus 7:14-12:36. But I don't think that by one of them appearing, especially one of the ones that commonly happens, you can say it's a clear reference, I don't think you can even say it's a reference at all. Maybe if it was about one of the less common ones and specifically mentioned all the water turning to blood, or hail that had fire in it, fine. It's like saying that since [[Blood|blood]] appears commonly in the HR universe, it's also a reference to the plagues. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 10:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:This is a reference to the book of Joel which speaks of "Hordes of locusts and Famine", you can read it online here: http://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1401.htm it's just four short chapters, and you only need to read the first one to get the point. [[User:89.139.134.185|89.139.134.185]] 11:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

==Book of Phone==

The first thing that came to mind when he said it that way was the [[Wikipedia: Book of Genesis|Book of Genesis]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:So? It's obvious this is a Bible reference. Which book? There are many. It's [[TTATOT]] or explaining the joke, pick one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Moreover, Genesis usually isn't read at funerals; "Book of Psalms" or "Book of Lamentations" or something else would have fit better. But I think it's really just a broad Bible reference, and not notable. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:It sounds like the book of Job. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
::It will be unknown forever what book of the Bible he is talking about. but this is no doubt this IS a biblical reference. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:33, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Reotarded? ==

Hey, is anyone else thinking that Strong Bad is making a portmanteau of "leotard" and "retarded" to insult his brother?[[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

:You're definitely right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::No, he's not. It's open to interpretation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Oh I sooo called this. Phlip, you were there, remember? No, "leotarded" is an actual word. If it was supposed to be a portmanteau, it would have been something more clever. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 12:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Yeah, but does that neccesarily mean it can't be a portmanteau too? I mean, "entrangled" is an actual word, but What I Want says it's a portmanteau. Plus it's a funny idea.
:::::I suggest you get your money back on that dictionary, as "entrangled" is not an English word. That leaves your argument that "it's a funny idea" which should never be a major consideration when considering a notable fact here. We are not here to be funny unless it works out that we can be while we are doing what we are here to do: document the work of TBC. "Entrangled" is simply not found anyplace except as a portmanteau in their work. "Leotarded" is not only a legitimate word, but the possible portmanteau is particularly insensitive, one I doubt TBC would use. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think you're thinking of 'entangled'. Like Qermaq says, 'entrangled' isn't a word. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

''entrangled'': '''adverb''' - in a state of entrang.

''entrang'': '''noun''' - I dunno, I think strongbad just made it up.
:It's simply [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entrangled not a word]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Is a similarity a reference??==

Apparently someone thinks strong bad's COOLogy is similar to some ask a ninja thing about pre-recording your final words. I've never seen AaN (so I could be mistaken), but your final words and your eulogy are not the same thing. Also, more importantly, this section is for REFERENCES, not similarities. Unless there's some particular characteristic that makes you think TBC have seen the AaN in question and were intentionally making a reference to it, this should be removed.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 13:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:Many people have precorded last words. It's likely not a reference to anything (i it were, it'd be TTATOT) so I agree. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree as well. Should it be STUFF'd, do you think? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 23:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say STUFF it, but I don't exactly know how to initiate that...([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 16:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC))
::::[[HRWiki:STUFF/Newpage]] has a step by step walkthrough of how to STUFF. By the way, I personally don't think it's a reference of any type, I just think it's Strong Bad being Strong Bad: creating cool, complex ways for simple, boring things. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I followed the walkthrough and started a STUFF page for it. I think I got it right, but this is my first time...[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 18:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

== Wrong note in Chopin... ==

While Strong Bad has never been renowned for singing in tune, I transcribed his singing into these notes:

C---C---C-C---Eb---D-D---C-C---A-C

Well, I wouldn't expect the Brothers Chaps to know the exact key of the original march, but the notes from the main theme were originally: [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Sonata_No.2_%28Chopin%2C_Frederic%29]

Bb---Bb---Bb-Bb---Db---C-C---Bb-Bb---Bb-Bb

As you can see, the second last interval is changed from a unison (tonic to tonic) to a minor third (submediant to tonic). I suppose it's forgivable, considering that a lot of the cartoon and pop culture references to Chopin's funeral march actually change the second last note to a leading tone (the note right below the tonic), but Strong Bad skips yet another tone down. Anyway, that's my music rant for the day.

~Stapler

:Cool, thanks for the analysis! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pine-a for me-a ==

"Pining" is a reference to [[trevor the vampire]], is it not? I noticed that this was a trivia fact in Trogdor when Strong Bad says "I pine for you!"
: It's just a word. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
: PS. The reason it's mentioned for Trogdor is due to the ''way'' he says it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It has been a while since he's used that phrase, and the way it's said seems to suggest a deliberate reference to his older incarnations. Among other things, the "pine-uh for me-uh" is a somewhat exaggerated way of using his old pseudo-Mexican accent ("I like-a to say, 'Holy crap!'"). Think that's got any merit to it? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::To pne means to "Yearn intensely and persistently especially for something unattainable." according to Webster's Dictionary. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:39, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Taxidoimied... Bugs Bunny reference? ==

When Strong Bad says "taxidoimied," I believe it is a reference to Bugs Bunny, who would quite often mispronounce words the same way by pronouncing the "er" in words as "oi" instead. And I can think of no other place he could've gotten that from. Anyone agree? -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 07:17 PM, March 16, 2007 (EST)
:It could be, but I'm tempted to say no. If it's used in places other than Bugs Bunny (and references of it), then probably not. If you can't find anything, it could be, but I'd wait for more responses. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 23:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Where did Mel Blanc get that manner of speech? It's a Brooklyn accent. People in Brooklyn talk like that to this day. This is definitely not a direct reference to Bugs, as that would be TTATOT. It's just a funny pronunciation based on a well-known accent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Absolutely. That accent existed long before Bugs was around. FWIW, Blanc claimed that he combined Brooklyn and Bronx accents to create the rabbit's voice. --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Absoloitly. Not a reference at oil! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Character Variation/Zombie Bad ==

With the character variation article, there's only the one form of strong bad zombie. I think there should be a second entry to cover the 2046 equivalent. [[User:220.245.178.139|220.245.178.139]] 05:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

:Well, the 2046 version of Strong Bad doesn't look any different than normal Strong Bad, other than that he's wearing tattered jeans, has a brain hat on, and is spitting out grape jelly. I'm pretty sure he's still alive there. So.. I don't really think he needs another entry. But.. that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::Of course he's still alive, he says that he hopes the zombies will still let him join their side. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, it's not a variation. It's a costume and should be listed in [[Strong Bad Other Costumes]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Of course he was alive. His eyes were alive. At the two funerals in the emails, his eyes died and lost their greenness when he died. I'm positive they weren't closed because they still have their gradient and he can see with them. I think that might not even be 2046, just staged. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== 5 boom boxes, 1 tape ==

I can't believe no one else has mentioned this yet, but whats the deal with the 5 boom boxes apparently all playing in PERFECT synchronization. and secondly. that coach z breaks into all of them at the exact same time. That essentially means that he wouldve had to record over the original tape before strong bad made copies of it. Thirdly. only 1 of the 5 boomboxes lets u see the tape. Most if not all tape players let u see the tape, so u can tell if its going or not --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 06:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it be a more simple explanation that he's got all 5 wired together to play off of one of the tape decks off one tape? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::Assuming that those old-style boomboxes could even do such a thing - they werent exactly filled with ports and holes for cross-wiring - they all have the play button pushed down, or are saying "playin'" or something...
:::I have an old boom box from 1982 or so that has two sets each, in and out, of RCA jacks. It certainly wasn't top of the line, either. I used it as speakers for my first CD player, and I had to have Play mashed down for the audio to pass through. --Septyn, 18Mar07
:they all have a pause button though... suspension of disbelief!! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::The wires are behind the boomboxes. Believe me, I checked. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::When you're talking about how the boomboxes are set up, how they were taped over, how they're in sync, etc... Just remember, one of the boomboxes is a ''cardboard box with stuff drawn on it''. Then keep the rest in perspective. Seriously. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Hair? ==

Is that pubic hair on the belly of the guy standing next to the Coughin' with the duck shirt?
:No, I'm sure it's intended to be belly hair — TBC work very hard to keep their toons PG. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::[[Wikipedia:Abdominal hair]] {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to be more scared by, the fact that that page exists, or that you found it and linked it, but its definitely belly hair [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 21:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
:: And i dont think you should be considering stuff like that and posting it, becuase there are women on here, such as myself, that would call it crude. some women do not know what that is, so i would put in on the forum, not here. Not trying to be mean, just trying to look out for a man's opposite persuasion. I dont want crude comments on here, but you are welcome to word that a little different. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:43, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Echo ==

How can you have an echo in an open field if there is nothing to reflect your voice off of? --18:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You're in the wrong talk page. You want Drive-Thru. And I don't know why. --[[User:Homestar3.14|Homestar3.14]] 18:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taranchula ==

Shouldn't it be mentioned that Taranchula is a direct reference back to [[death metal]]? I mean, that's where they first appeared.
Ya know... when he started saying how he was going to do something different from Chopin, I thought for sure he was going to say Limozeen...
-Zero.exe
:Eh, it kinda goes without saying. And besides, this isn't even the first email that Taranchula has been mentioned in. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 12:35 AM, 24 March 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, actually, Taranchula was mentioned first in the same e-mail Limozeen was. Then again in the montage one (only breifly, their name was seen on a record). --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Mind Your P's and ... P's. ===
{{stufffact|Since P is the 16th letter in the English alphabet, it makes sense for pizza places to be in chapter 16 of the phone book.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)|23:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|18|0|your funeral}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== A Ninja Reference's Last Words?? ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad recording his own Eulogy is similar to an episode of the popular podcast series, Ask a Ninja, in the episode "Last Words", because he asks people to pre-record their final words.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)|05:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|18|0|your funeral}}

== Off the chain/charts. ==

Now that we know what off the hook, off the grid, and off the wagon mean, we should probably show what being off the chain and off the charts mean, right? I mean I noticed that Off the Chain happens to be some band's album. Same thing with Off the Charts. Go to wikipedia and you'll know what I mean. Are they worth being put in the Real-World References section or not?
-[[User: Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]]
:"Off the charts" is a generic phrase meaning something along the lines of "these readings are so high, our instruments cannot measure them". A thermometer that only went to 100 degrees trying to record a 150-degree temperature would read the temperature as "off the charts". Essentially, it's "higher than you can measure". No idea what "off the chain" means, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== 2046 Strong Sad reference? ==

I just noticed a remarkable similarity between the 2046 version of Strong Sad, and his easter-egg action figure in [[action_figure|sbemail 42]]. Does anyone else think this is noteworthy? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm, on second look, maybe the similarity is just in his arms. Meh. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd say it's just the muscular arms. Similar, but not necessarily a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== The End of the... what the heck? ==

Since my {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466929&oldid=465536 reference}} has created much confusion/edit {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466965&oldid=466958 reversal}}, I will post a better explanation here to start/continue the discussion (I'd rather do this before trying to STUFF anything):

The "reference":
:''The phrases "locusts and famine" and "doomsday device" are references to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].''

First, this is how the conversation transpired (note that once "conversations" start in the edit history, it's best to move them to a talk page):
* Stux (Talk | contribs) (→Real-World References - ref to armageddon (so is the zombie uprising in a way, should that be included?), please rephrase as necessary)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (i doubt that, these phrases are too common)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The phrases came from Armageddon originally, didn't they?)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (nope. locusts and famine are mentioned in the bible, doomsday devices appear in a lot of sci-fi)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The biblical Armegaddon? I just want to be sure we're talking about the same thing.)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (undid revision 466958 by Shwoo (Talk) no)

With more careful though, I realized that these are essentially two separate (but related) references:
*The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction.

To be clear, like Shwoo said I was referring to the biblical Armageddon (per the link provided), not the movie. I thought there were several "end of the world" themes that were left out of the discussion. This also includes the mention of "zombie attacks". Most modern zombie movies portray zombies as an infectious being that can turn the entire world into zombies, thus bringing another "doomsday" scenario. I would like to suggest that these three "doomsday" references be combined into one section with three subsections describing each topic. One last thing: the phrase "locusts and famine" does in fact come from the bible: they're two of the disasters mentioned in the book of revelation. What say ye all? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think that there's enough of a connection to warrant a reference. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree. Similar references have been found in other movies and shows. Anywho, I wanted to present a variation of what I thought the fact could look like:
----
*This email makes a few references to the end of the world:
**The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction capable of detroying all life on earth.
----
::Of course I can't think of anything for zombies, as that is a bit more general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think there's that much of a connection for the "locusts and famine" thing. They're both common doomsday scenarios. As for the "doomsday device," that is WAY too general and a little too self-explanatory to be worthy of a reference, in my opinion. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}}

== Zombie Fact ==

Did you know that the zombie effect in Michael Jackson's music video "Thriller", is achieved by the use of grape jelly? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_%28music_video%29#Trivia [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, it's already in the article, ignore me. [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

:Okay! {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 20:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gray eyes? ==

*Both when dead and as a zombie (at the funeral), Stong Bad's eyes look as they did back in the early Tandy emails, just blackish-grey.

Okay, so when I first saw this, my immediate response was, "Wait, Strong Bad's eyes never looked like that." Just to be certain, I went all the way back to [[some kinda robot]] and, sure enough, his eyes were green. Unless all the Tandy emails were edited later so he had green eyes (and I'm not sure why they would have ever been grey in the Tandy emails, seeing as how his eyes were even green in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]), this fact is... well, what's the phrase I'm looking for... not true. Unless there's something I don't know (and if there is, somebody please fill me in), I'm removing this fact pending further discussion. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

:I think it means: They have the ''style'' of the Tandymails (without the 2 little circles in the corner of his eyes), but instead of green they're blackish-gray. --[[User:AlmsforthePudgy|AlmsforthePudgy]] 14:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wow. That really needs a rewording. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wait, no, I take it back... it doesn't really seem noteworthy. If they're not the same color, what's the point in drawing the comparison? {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's Room? ==

The Purple Room in the Easter Egg could be 2046 Strong Sad's Room
:Is it? Last time I read, it was a warehouse.---{{User:Record307/sig}} 00:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::"Could be" means speculation. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:04, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:your funeral

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:39:15 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Pine-a for me-a */

== 2:03 ==

I think that when Strong Bad mentions that the zombies will come at 2:03 it is a reference to Strong Sad's Lament when he says that Tuesdays at 2:03 is his favorite time.
:- It's possible, but it's a bit of a stretch. Especially since March 31, 2047 falls on a Saturday. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::But the easter egg takes place in ''2046''. In which case March 31 is a Sunday. Either way, it's not Tuesday. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Sad likes Tuesdays at 3:02, not 2:03. [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 02:35, 16 March 2007

== Homestar and Marzipan ==

I'm not sure if it belongs on the wiki, but is it possible that Homestar and Marzipan live with each other? The front of Marzipan's house looks the same, and Homestar's broken Cow lamp may be a different room besides the front. should this be on their relationship page?

:I don't think so. Marzipan's house is blue, as seen in 2003 Halloween toon [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and Homestar is trick or treating at this house. Though Homestar is kinda funny and doesn't think somethings through most of the time, I don't think he would trick or treat at his own home. Homestar's house is gray as seen in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However it could be that this ''is'' the same house and is only colored based on the season (blue because it's night and grey because of the cold snow). [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 16:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::If you look on the pages for [[Homestar's House]] and [[Marzipan's House]], the interior rooms look different, meaning they can't live together. On the other hand, that makes me wonder why he said, "Marzipan, I'm home!" when he doesn't actually live there. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Huh. Maybe that was just Homestar being Homestar and confirming things he doesn't even know about. Kind of like the whole "It's time for tasteball!", "Oh, crap. Tasteball already." bit. 18:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:This scene is Strong Bad's future speculation (after all, he's dead at this point). It's possible that Homestar and Marzipan could be cohabitating at this future time, no? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:In the commentary for [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], TBC said that they didn't want anyone thinking that Homestar and Marzipan live together (or something to that effect). [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Can I help?==
can I help with trying to find some glitches? -[[User:TheDenzel|The Denzel]] 01:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Do whatever you want to help. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== the email is down right now. ==

This probably means it will soon be updated in a way that will be of interest for the 'glitch/trivia' section.[[User:168.156.44.101|168.156.44.101]] 02:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:...uh, no. It's not. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:(if you are getting a 404'd from it, hold down the shift key and hit the reload button) {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 02:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It perhaps wasn't gone for long, I reloaded it SEVERAL during a few minutes when it wouldn't seem to appear.[[User:24.22.145.14|24.22.145.14]] 05:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::This is unremarkable, it happens all the time. It's on your end. You need to clear your cache or force a reload using the aforementioned trick. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Homestar lip dot?==
When Homestar is reading from the phone book, one of the mouth frames has a black dot on it, and shows up whenever that particular frame is up. — [[User:69.105.202.40|69.105.202.40]] ([[User talk:69.105.202.40|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.105.202.40|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

- Check please. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I checked the email. The dot is very small and faint, but it does trully exist. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::frame 2031, it is an error with his eye. when he closes his eyes, one of them does not get fully erased. {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::If it is not noticeable to the viewer except by manipulation, it's not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Too far? ==

O_O Too... i dunno. Definitely not for kids. More PG-13 rated.

[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Uh... Why? Because there's corpses? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 02:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It's all pretty cartoony, expecially how Strong Bad continues to fail staying dead. Strong Bad waking up with an exposed ribcage creeped me out a little, but I wouldn't say the email went too far. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I think they were in danger of going too far, given the rather morbid question, but I have to say they handled it quite nicely. I mean, Homestar reading from the phone book at a eulogy? Genius! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::: Got it! [[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Getting a bit forumy here. Let's keep this page about the content. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:No one ever made the claim that Homestar Runner was a cartoon for children. (In fact, in the email "For kids," Strong Bad is quite opposed to the idea, heh.) I didn't see you complaining when one of the members of Blue Laser got a fork jammed in his eye. Stop taking it so seriously. [[User:0rion|0rion]]
::[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=10241 Read this thread]. I don't know if the person who started this section complained about it, but some people have. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Ummm, I don't know why, but this e-mail creeped me out too. Everybody! is right. I know, I know, I'm weird... Also, my friend was talking to me about this website, and she said it was a family website. 0.o I dunno.--[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 21:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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::I think itsa little creepy, i dont get creeped out like that, but its definatly not in the category of PG-13. I think it should not be seen for girls under the age of 7, and boys under the age of 4. LOL! [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:20, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Egg - future SB ==

Are you sure he's a zombie in the egg? When he came out of the jar as a zombie he had black eyes and a visible rib. In the egg it looks like he's just stuck somethng to his head, put on some tattered jeans and is spitting out a mouthful of grape jelly. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. I think he's still alive there.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Which would agree with what he said at the end of the email. How he hoped the zombies would let him be on their side, even though he was alive. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:While I see where you all are coming from, in my opinion, SB acts more like a zombie in the easter egg than in the e-mail. That is, in the e-mail proper, he has complete and full consciousness, while such presumably cannot be said for egg SB. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, he ''acts'' like a zombie, anyone can spit out jelly while saying "Blarg". - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]]
:::I don't exactly follow. It's true that ''anyone'' can spit out jelly and say, "Blarg." My point is that it would be unthinkable, or at least improbable, that a zombie would speak coherently and recognize people, as Strong Bad does when he breaks out of the jar. I was merely pointing out that easter egg SB seems more zombie-esque (by merit of being less human-esque) than he does in the e-mail itself. It also seems likely that he's just pretending to be a zombie, as this is hinted at in the end of the e-mail. So, in my opinion, he's not really a zombie in either scenario. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 19:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::It's kinda hard to just be ''pretending'' your a zombie when your skin is tattered and rotting and your ribcage is exposed. I see your point, and it's valid, but it still doesn't justify why he'd still be alive when he breaks out of the jar. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 7:04 PM, March 18, 2007 (EST)

== References in future characters? ==

Do you think Future Pom Pom and Future Strong Sad are references in themselves? Future Pom Pom looks a lot like Duke Nukem... — [[User:68.44.220.232|68.44.220.232]] ([[User talk:68.44.220.232|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.44.220.232|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])
:By their faces, beards, cigars, and ammo belts, I am willing to wager that it is a reference to the Contra series of video games and the 2 main chracters from the original game in that series. See the picture located [http://www.racketboy.com/retro/contra-arcade.jpg here] for confirmation purposes.~[[User:DanZero|DanZero]] 06:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Interesting — I wonder if there's a closer reference though, only because Contra doesn't have anything like zombies in it. Or maybe it's just a general reference to that style of gritty '80s action hero... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Sure does seem to look a lot like contra... hard to piece together why they'd use that tho. other than the fact that it was like the best game ever --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 07:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I just thought they were the archetype of futuristic survivors. I didn't see a particular reference, it's endemic to the genre. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::I thought Strong Sad was a bit reminiscent of Snake Plissken from the film "Escape From New York", but it might just be me. [[User:Klarsh|Klarsh]] 16:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Not sure how relevant it is, but am I alone in thinking there are similarities between future Strong Sad and the Strong Sad action figure? -Xerzes, who hasn't done this enough to remember how to make the sig and timestamp happen.

::My first impression was that Pom Pom looked like Cable from the X-Men animated series but it's been a while since I've seen that. An X-Men connection could explain the Doomsday device though, which was created to kill all the mutants (or in this case, zombies). Then again, post-apocalyptic scenarios with cigars and doomsday devices are pretty common! [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 12:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:::It's probably just TTATOT, seeing how many references we've been able to come up with. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

== screaming yellow ==

Is there any evidence that this is really a reference to the candy, and not say, to the car? Either seems pretty much arbitrary to me. Perhaps the candy is a bit more in "TBC style" as far as references go (so retro). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: But TBC didn't make the reference... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::yes, of course, since this is in the body of the email received, it should be assumed that TBC are refering to nothing at all, and it's simply word for word the email they received. At any rate, it feels like speculation to me. Though, there are only 2 or 3 things in the popular lexicon that I can imagine the author of the email intended. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it was a faulty reference to Dripping Yellow Madness. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 05:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Although I have no problems in keeping the reference out (since any reference made by a fan is borderline as it is), I don't think it's a matter of [[TTATOT]]. I'm almost certain that it's a reference to Screamin' Yellow Zonkers. If this gets taken to a vote, I'll green light it, but as of right now, I have no problems with it being left out. - [[User:0rion|0rion]]
Removed as speculation, we have no idea what the author intended and there is more than one
possiblity {{User:Bryanc/sig}}:
<blockquote>*'Screaming Yellow Strong Bad' is presumably a reference to the snack food [[Wikipedia:Screaming Yellow Zonkers|Screaming Yellow Zonkers]].</blockquote>
Ideas in the email itself are not TBC created, and as such are not notable references in nearly all cases. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: I think they should have continued the joke...I mean, Screaming Yellow Zonkers? Screaming Yellow Zombie? I'm not sayings it's comedic gold,like commas, but it's definitely the same style humor as this website. ~ Shadix

In my mind, I thought it was a reference to [[Unseen Characters|Dripping Yellow Madness]] from [[Cool Things]], but since it was part of the e-mail rather than something that's within the toon inself, I didn't bother mentioning anything. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 15:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Vocal Effect ==

What effect did they put on Strong bads Voice when he was "zombiefied" its Awesome, and being the Avant-Garde Musician, it would help a lot (music wise). Thanks.

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i think it's an allusion to what happens to the character "jordy" (played by stephen king) in the movie creepshow. the undead jordy sounds just like the undead strong bad.

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Awesome, ill read up on that. now i need to find out how to replicate it ^^

FWIW, it's used in the movie "Creepshow" AGAIN as the vocal effect on the dead father in "Father's Day"...

: Months late and dollars short, but it's a question worth answering in case the asker ever looks again. You can probably achieve this effect or something very similar to it with extreme settings on a [[Wikipedia:Flanging|flanger]]. Sounds like a modulation frequency of at least 15 Hz and probably zero feedback, but I can't guess at the modulation depth or wet/dry mix without experimentation. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Passion Reference?? ==

Am I the only one who sees a ridiculous amount of Passion of the Christ references? Strong Sad carrying the jar like the cross while being whipped, Strong Bad's exposed ribcage, references to the repeatedly changed day of prophecy that the souls of the dead will come back as zombies and attack the living? Am I crazy or just the only one morbid enough to see it?
*You're crazy and unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: Ah, very good then. Thought: Baleeted.
::And you're still unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The first two I could kind of understand, though I would call them more coincidental. The last one makes no sense: when in Mel Gibson's film did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed day of a prophecy that souls of the dead will come back and attack the living? [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:Never seen the movie, but when in ''this email'' did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed date that souls of the dead would come back? Strong Bad didn't change the date of the zombie revolution; he just got more and more specific as to the time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Does the whipping thing reference ''anything''? it seems like it should... --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:No, it's just a poke at slavery. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 18:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== 2046? 20X6? ==

Could this be a reference? I know it means that 2046 is NOT 20X6 (as the characters look completely different from their 20X6 forms) but could the similarity of the years be a reference? You know, a nudge from TBC, baiting us, telling us "Hey, here's one that it's NOT, good luck figuring out which one it IS." [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think that 20X6 is actually one year, or else last year would also be 20X6. When Sam (from Concord, California) who asked the e-mail in [[time capsule]] said it would be opened in X0 years, I think Strong Bad took X0 as an actual way to calculate time in years. {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::That does not directly address the question I brought up in any way. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the year "2046" often used in some comicbooks to depict a future alternate reality? I know there's a movie called [[Wikipedia:2046 (film)|2046]], but I don't recall zombies in that. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 14:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I think you're talking about 2099. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
:Well, I know I looked on the back of a really old Metroid game box in a computer store and it said "In the year 20X5..." -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 22:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, you guys. Have a look at the intro paragraph of [[20X6]] ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fourth wall Break? ==

Marzipan just leaned over the edge of the left side of the frame. Is this a fourth wall break? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:You're joking right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 13:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Don't be mean. Now, I can see what you're trying to say. If she physically manipulated the frame (which we wouldn't be able to see anyway), THEN it would be a fourth wall break. As far as we're concerned, it's like someone leaning away from they're cooking to talk to their relative, or something. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 14:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh thanks for your help Bryanc. B-( {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 19:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I did not mean to be rude, I'm very sorry I came across that way. But this is not close to what a break in the theatrical 4th wall means. A "fourth wall" break is when the actors acknowledge that they are actors. It was to be somewhat jarring, like out of nowhere Strong Sad looks into the camera and says "Hello!". That is breaking 4th wall. It's toyed with a lot and the lines are blurred here. Which makes it a little difficult to say what and what.
{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

==Addendum==

An addendum is "something added or to be added, especially a supplement to a book". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's nice to know. go ahead and put it under the "Explanations" sectionor the remarks section. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno — do we usually list definitions of words under Explanations, unless it has something to do with the context of the toon? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Breaking References??==
I'm against listing "So Cold" by Breaking Benjamin as a reference for the funeral procession. I just watched the video again on Youtube, and there's nothing there to link it as a reference, beyond the fact that they're both funeral processions, which is far from unique. At the very least, I think the wording should be changed, "oddly reminiscent" is too vague and seems to me to be an admission that it's not really a reference. Either re-word it into a definite, specific reference or get rid of it completely. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's a reference either. I say, go ahead and remove it, and if anyone thinks it should stay they can STUFF it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Bibendum image ==

The Bibendum easter egg isn't just a Michelin reference, it's a direct reference to [http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Le-Pneu-Michelin-Nunc-Est-Bibendum-Giclee-Print-C12046037.jpeg this classic ad]. According to [[Wikipedia:Michelin#Bibendum|Wikipedia]], which provides a translation of the ad's text, the name of the mascot (which is Latin for "to drink") originated with this ad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 19:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, good find — you're right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Good job. you can go ahead and put that on the page WITH the picture.
:Waaait a second there, man. "bibendum" is a gerund, so it just means "drinking" (in its use as a noun, not a verb or adjective, e.g. "Drinking is fun").
::The image is clearly a reference to the ad, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Newlydead ==
When Strong Bad said 'newlydead', do you think he was making a play on 'newlywed'? I know it doesn't really fit the context, but just by the way it sounds...maybe not....--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I'd say that's probably where he derived the word. Typical Strong Bad coinage, I'd say. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Count me in too. An easy pun Strong Bad would say. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. Very yes. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 21:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Chaup au Fan? ==

What is a "Chaup au Fan"? If anyone knows, this should be added to Explanations. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:It sounds like very poor and broken French. Literally, I think it would be "[Nonexistent word] to the fan[as in, a Homestar fan, not a fan which would move air]." Perhaps by « Chaup » they were trying to make "Chap" sound more French? Thus, the image was created by the Chaps for a fan? Chaup could be a French word, I'm not certain (I'm only in fifth-year French), but it's not one I've ever heard, nor can I find it in my dictionary. Oh, and by the way, the pronunciation (following the IPA standards) would probably be something like: ʃop o fɑ̃ [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

::While I appreciate the linguistic exploration (I do love those), I'm assuming it must actually mean something. It's unlike TBC to include something like this which is made up out of whole cloth. There's gotta be a meaning to this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:::True; "From the Chaps, for a fan" would be my best guess at the actual meaning, but who knows. Again, maybe they just wanted to make it look French, Michelin being a French company. I'll look into the issue further.[[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:I may be completely crazy, but it seems to me to be similar to the way Strong Sad produces "Chaparone" in senior prom. Anyone? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's just Strong Sad's (quite good) French accent that makes them sound similiar. And I favor an explantion of what this term means by someone who knows as I've been able to find nothing about it. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::: It's pretty much just nonsense. There's a "translation" up there ^ a few lines, but it's just telling you that what Strong Sad's saying doesn't make sense. I've taken four years of French and I can tell you thatit's garbage. Pure garbage, sister. Also, I feel that SS's accent leaves much to be desired... he overdoes it on many an occasion. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Apparently at this point we're confident that "Chaup au Fan" is simply gibberish. While saying that, and noting the relation to dance terms as the context of the toon supports, are notable, the speculative meanings are just that, and as such I will remove them from the article and note them in this thread.

:*The way it's initially said by Strong Bad and Strong Sad sounds like a mispronunciation of "coq au vin," which is chicken in wine sauce, a popular French dish. It might also be an intentional misspelling (to seem even more French) of the term "chapeau fan," which would literally translate as a "fan hat" (e.g. a baseball cap pertaining to a favorite team).

::::{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Put him in a jar? ==

I don't hear "put him in a jar," but rather "brother in a jar." Anyone else? -just a random newb

Actually, I thought it sounded like "funeral in a jar" [[User:63.165.156.213|63.165.156.213]] 23:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

not enough syllables. speaking of, when they say it the third time, and also in the easter egg, they run the words together, so it's more like "puteminajar". does anyone else think this should be indicated in the transcript? [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:I definitely heard brother on a second viewing. Also, it could be "fun'ral," so syllables aren't an issue. Could we maybe get a vote? I cast my vote... '''BROTHER'''-wards! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:It doesn't sound like "brother" to me. There's no r sound. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 06:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I definitely heard "put him" (I was the transcriber.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I hear "brother in a jar". -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 01:45, 16 March 2007 (CST)
::::I also definitely hear "put him".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::While I'm not sure exactly what it says, I am pretty certain that I hear neither "brother in a jar" nor "put him in a jar." I've listened to it over and over again, and instead of "in," it sounds like it's saying "for," though I have not been able to come up with a wording for the sentence in which that would make sense. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 03:11, 16 March 2007 (EST)
:I watched it three times this week and heard "Brother in a jar." I also thought "fall back" was "Pom Bag" and that it was supposed to be 2046 Pom Pom's name. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::I hear "Put him in a jar" [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 17:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::My best guess is "Pull him from the jar". I definitely hear it starting with "P" sound, and I'm pretty sure about the "f" sound ("from" or maybe "for") and "the jar" instead of "a jar". Maybe the second word is "it" instead of "him". But maybe we'd better just wait til they release it as a quote. I hope they do! -another random newb, 22:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, your guess sounds a lot closer.

Should we add a footnote to the transcript? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:We don't usually do that when we're unsure.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::I found similar footnotes in [[boring (really)]] and [[candy product]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The footnote is useful when there is no consensus, or equal consensus for different options. In this case I don't really know if there us consesnus, but I'm personally happy to allow the footnote to remain as proposed while discussion ensues. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I watched it several times, and I always heard "put him in a jar". Well, more like "puteminajar", as Neumannz said. It also makes more sense. I can't see "brother in a jar" being relevant, and about "funeral in a jar", the funeral isn't in the jar. It's in.. wherever the funeral is. But that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

:I hear "put him in a jar" too, which makes the most sense, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I can only hear "put him in a jar". ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 23:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC))

Well, now that the Quote of the Week says "brother" instead of "put him", I may suggest every single change to the transcript and subtitles once again. Man, same issue with Marzipan's word booty. Anyway, I'm only visiting, and then I'm leaving again. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, that goes without saying. We don't really need to be reminded to make those changes. (He's talking about [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-22|this quote]], by the way.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yay, I got it! And some others, but not the majority, got it too! [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
:High fives all around! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 03:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yay! -just the random newb who started all of this
:::The QotW says "brother in a jar", but I hear "put him in a jar". Ignore the "User:". [[User:Neox]]

== Coach Z 1234 Beat ==

The beat in Strong Bad's funeral kind of sounds like the #1 hit: [[These Peoples Try To Fade Me]] -{{User:Viklas/sig}}

:Sounded more like Another One Bites The Dust to me... [[User:74.119.23.212|74.119.23.212]] 00:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:TTAOT, it sounded like a generic rap to me. Which could sound like a lot of raps. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== World War Z ==

This is really just idle speculation, but has anyone hear ever read World War Z? It's a story about what would happen if Zombies really did attack humanity within the next 30-40 years. I'm pretty sure that TBC hasn't even heard of the book, but still, I feel like this deserves a minor refrence due to the similarities, like here, on the talk page. Also, could Screaming Yellow be a reference to Kyle the Yellow Dart Smith? Again, idle speculation
:Actually, I was more apt to believe the zombie references in this email have to do with the horror/sci-fi genre of video games and movies, like Resident Evil and the like. But that's already starting down the TTATOT path. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::'''NEVER''' use my name in vain. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:There's also a book called ''The Zombie Survival Guide'', and probably countless others in the same strain. You could never have a reference, it's just TTATOT. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::How coincidental. I was reading both those books just today. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::It was probably a reference to "Dripping Yellow Madness." [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think the zombie uprising was a reference to anything in particular, because that's been used in a lot of different stories/movies/whatever. And I'm really not sure what Screaming Yellow was a reference to, but since it was from the fan, they could be just writing random words or something to make it sound funny. Who knows?
::::Also, what's TTATOT mean? {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 21:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::See [[TTATOT]]: "'This That And The Other Thing.' Applicable when a reference in a toon could refer to one of many similar things. The rule of thumb is that if it could apply to several things, it probably refers to nothing in particular."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== Same? ==

Is Strong Sad really saying the same thing that his Bibendum advert has written out? It sounds more like he's saying chapon fond, chape en front, chape en fan, or even chapeau fort, more than Chaup au fan. Unless he just has horrible French pronunciation. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:There's no copy in that ad which would be reasonably mispronounced by a moderately-educated person as "Chap au fan" - and this is TBC we're talking about. This is clearly something but what? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:Just a wild shot in the dark, but we are talking about the Chap brothers' website, right?

:I'm pretty sure he is indeed saying the same thing as the text in the ad, but there might be an off chance it's "something enfant". Perhaps "Chaps enfant" meaning that Strong Bad is a (brain)child of the Brothers Chaps. It's a bit of a stretch, and I think in proper French the "s" at the end of "Chaps" would be pronounced at the beginning of "enfant" anyway. Just a thought. - {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:Strong Sad's pronuciation in French is, whenever he's done it before, quite good. It would be out of character if he were screwing this up. Any dancers out there? I really would like to know what Monsieur Sad is referring to. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a ballroom dancer. I think what Strong Sad is saying is "chassé font" (pronounced more or less like what Strong Sad said, like "schahs auh faunt") which is a move we use in ballroom to mean a long step forward, followed by sliding the other foot to neutral position again. In other words, extend the first (usually right) leg like a lady's lunge in tango, then slide the other foot back, the foot ending sideways. Does that make sense? The only problem I see is that isn't really a flashy move, so why would SS want to show it off? [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

::Is that how it's pronounced in ballroom dancing terms? Because in French, it would be pronounced more like "shahs say fon(with a nasal 't' suggested at the end)." [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::I don't speak a word of French, so I'm probably entirely inaccurate in the pronunciation. My ballroom teacher is from Wisconsin, so that probably influences the accent a bit ;) [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]
:::I think you mean a nasal "n" sound. The t is silent. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::That's why I said it was suggested at the end; the nasalization of the "n" suggests a "t" afterwards. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::::Oh. That's kinda weird, but okay, I guess. Really, though, the nasal n could suggest other letters, so I would have just said that, but hey, whatever floats your boat. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 13:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::One thing I also thought of, silly as it may be: this may also link to SB's comment about a "chappy thong." Reason being is if you aren't used to moving correctly, certain garments like to wedge themselves in uncomfortable places. [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

== Phone Book ==

Anyone else notice that this is the second email in a row to refer to a phone book? The last has Homestar mentioning that the "real money is in" phone books, and this one has has the reading from the "book of phone." Is this, perhaps, setting itself up as another running gag? Or, more interestingly, might it somehow be tied into the recent DNA references? --left unsigned

:Hm -- I think it's a coincidence. Much like the [[Talk:unnatural#Chocolate cake again! I said chocolate cake again!|chocolate cake]] reference in [[unnatural]], there's nothing else that ties it to the previous appearance... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:We'll see if it comes up again next email [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

::Yeah, probably just a coincidence. But I still think the chocolate cake thing was anything but coincidental.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 11:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Mycology and Leonard part 6 ==

the tape in the boOOMmbox says my c00logy, which is much like mycology, the study of fungi. fungi eat dead people. fungi probably are eating dead strong bad.<s> fun fact?</s> notable? prolly. also, the reference to leotards being part of a weapon is reminescent of Leonard part 6. {{User:Csours/sig}} 17:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's notable. He's just emphasizing how COOL his eulogy is. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 17:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed. (And it probably needs adding to [[Portmanteaus]]. I'll go do that now...) {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::: <strike>Just another thought- should it go in [[Internet Slang]] too? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)</strike>
::::...actually, now that I look at it, it's COOLogy rather than c00logy, so discount that.{{User:Kahteh/sig}} 22:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's notable to point out that this webpage may be the only webpage in existence that refers to both The Passion and Leonard Part 6
:::::[http://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=3fc&q=%22Passion%20of%20the%20Christ%22%20%22Leonard%20Part%206%22&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=iw That's simply not true.] --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fixed it? ==

I re-watched the e-mail again, and it looks like that when he says "funeral's" he actually types funeral's now.

== "Marizipan i'm home!" ==

I can't think what, but I'm sure this is a parody on something, there was a TV show where sombody said "*Someone* I'm home!" in very similar mannor... [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 21:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:It's basically a cliche by now... It was done a lot in those '50s shows. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe "Lucy, I'm home!"? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 22:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:It was such a cliche on black and white tv shows that there was a truly terrible television show, a parody (though really stretching the definition of the word) made for Nick at Nite in the late early '90's named after it. (I can't believe that they actually made a wiki article about it, but yeah, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi_Honey%2C_I%27m_Home "Hi Honey I'm Home."] People have explained the cliche as that it was a followup from the mentality of radio. On a radio show, a character can't just open a door and begin the conversation, because the audience can't see it. They have to open the door and say "hello, I'm home," often with the other characters saying "Why, look, it's XXX." --XXX

That's probly it then. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Suplexing the Couger ==

The Odd thing about that is that I know of no suplex in which the head is downward facing.

All Suplexes I know, involve the heads of both te suplexer and the suplxee to be near to each other when the move is being done.

What stuffed-Strong Bad looks like he's doing is either a piledriver or perhaps a Powerbomb.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 01:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

: Take it from a long-time wrestling fan: what he's doing is indeed a suplex. German suplexes are done differently (with the head right-side up), but that's not what he's doing. Here's how it's done: with the person standing in front of you and facing you, bend them over and put their head under your arm. Grab the waist of their pants with the other arm and lift the person up over your head (they'll be upside down), then pretty much just fall back, making sure to cause as much impact between the other person's back and the ground as possible. This is what stuffed Strong Bad appears to be doing in his pose -- just starting to fall backwards. It's okay if the opponent's head is down by your side instead of by your own head; it's still a suplex. His back will just hit more on your shoulder than the ground. (Sorry if I didn't use proper terminology in this explanation.) -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 06:42, 16 March 2007 (EST)
::In the Kirby type- videogames, he has a move called Suplex, and most of you probably know that. He does a suplex but instead of falling back he grabs them by the neck withouht flipping them back, jumps in the air,and slams the enemy in the ground, then it dies. If anyone wants a look, buy the game or look up Kirby Suplex in Youtube. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:29, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Jar Meniscus ==

Hey, should that be a Fun Fact or something? When Strong Sad is carrying Strong Bad (on the Taranchula scene) the meniscus in the water is still angled to the angle of the jar, rather than horizontal like it should. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 01:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:hey thanks, now I know what the word "meniscus" means. But I still don't see what you are talking about here. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:: The water is defying gravity, essentially. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::Ok, I see it now. The liquid should be level with the horizon to obey the laws of physics. I still dunno about "meniscus", that is the salt water tears of many heartbroken private school girls. Supposedly. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::'Meniscus' is just the scientific term for the top of the liquid, rather than what the liquid is. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Wouldn't that be more of a "goof" than a "remark?" [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, it just seems like weird things that should be correct are more likely in trivia or fun facts, but hey, I'm new here. And yes, 'meniscus' is just the very top of the water. i.e. you look at the meniscus in a measuring cup or a test tube, per se, to find out how much is inside it. -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== The Plagues ==

Hordes of locusts and Famine? Isn't this a clear reference to the 10 plagues of Egypt in the first testament/torah? Or am I missing something? Did someone else catch this?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 22:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's what came to mind when I heard it. [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It might be, but those are not actually limited to biblical times: [[wikipedia:1915 locust plague|1915 locust plague]] and [[wikipedia:Famine|famine]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Locusts was one of the 10 plagues, famine was not. There was famine in Egypt, but that was during the time of Joseph, not Moses. The ten plagues were:
:::#Blood
:::#Frogs
:::#Lice
:::#Flies
:::#Animals dying of disease (there's no shorter way to translate it into English)
:::#Boils
:::#Hail and Fire
:::#Locusts
:::#Darkness
:::#Death of the firstborns
:::For more information see [[Wikipedia:Plagues of Egypt]] or, more directly, Exodus 7:14-12:36. But I don't think that by one of them appearing, especially one of the ones that commonly happens, you can say it's a clear reference, I don't think you can even say it's a reference at all. Maybe if it was about one of the less common ones and specifically mentioned all the water turning to blood, or hail that had fire in it, fine. It's like saying that since [[Blood|blood]] appears commonly in the HR universe, it's also a reference to the plagues. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 10:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:This is a reference to the book of Joel which speaks of "Hordes of locusts and Famine", you can read it online here: http://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1401.htm it's just four short chapters, and you only need to read the first one to get the point. [[User:89.139.134.185|89.139.134.185]] 11:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

==Book of Phone==

The first thing that came to mind when he said it that way was the [[Wikipedia: Book of Genesis|Book of Genesis]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:So? It's obvious this is a Bible reference. Which book? There are many. It's [[TTATOT]] or explaining the joke, pick one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Moreover, Genesis usually isn't read at funerals; "Book of Psalms" or "Book of Lamentations" or something else would have fit better. But I think it's really just a broad Bible reference, and not notable. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:It sounds like the book of Job. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
::It will be unknown forever what book of the Bible he is talking about. but this is no doubt this IS a biblical reference. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:33, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Reotarded? ==

Hey, is anyone else thinking that Strong Bad is making a portmanteau of "leotard" and "retarded" to insult his brother?[[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

:You're definitely right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::No, he's not. It's open to interpretation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Oh I sooo called this. Phlip, you were there, remember? No, "leotarded" is an actual word. If it was supposed to be a portmanteau, it would have been something more clever. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 12:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Yeah, but does that neccesarily mean it can't be a portmanteau too? I mean, "entrangled" is an actual word, but What I Want says it's a portmanteau. Plus it's a funny idea.
:::::I suggest you get your money back on that dictionary, as "entrangled" is not an English word. That leaves your argument that "it's a funny idea" which should never be a major consideration when considering a notable fact here. We are not here to be funny unless it works out that we can be while we are doing what we are here to do: document the work of TBC. "Entrangled" is simply not found anyplace except as a portmanteau in their work. "Leotarded" is not only a legitimate word, but the possible portmanteau is particularly insensitive, one I doubt TBC would use. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think you're thinking of 'entangled'. Like Qermaq says, 'entrangled' isn't a word. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

''entrangled'': '''adverb''' - in a state of entrang.

''entrang'': '''noun''' - I dunno, I think strongbad just made it up.
:It's simply [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entrangled not a word]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Is a similarity a reference??==

Apparently someone thinks strong bad's COOLogy is similar to some ask a ninja thing about pre-recording your final words. I've never seen AaN (so I could be mistaken), but your final words and your eulogy are not the same thing. Also, more importantly, this section is for REFERENCES, not similarities. Unless there's some particular characteristic that makes you think TBC have seen the AaN in question and were intentionally making a reference to it, this should be removed.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 13:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:Many people have precorded last words. It's likely not a reference to anything (i it were, it'd be TTATOT) so I agree. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree as well. Should it be STUFF'd, do you think? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 23:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say STUFF it, but I don't exactly know how to initiate that...([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 16:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC))
::::[[HRWiki:STUFF/Newpage]] has a step by step walkthrough of how to STUFF. By the way, I personally don't think it's a reference of any type, I just think it's Strong Bad being Strong Bad: creating cool, complex ways for simple, boring things. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I followed the walkthrough and started a STUFF page for it. I think I got it right, but this is my first time...[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 18:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

== Wrong note in Chopin... ==

While Strong Bad has never been renowned for singing in tune, I transcribed his singing into these notes:

C---C---C-C---Eb---D-D---C-C---A-C

Well, I wouldn't expect the Brothers Chaps to know the exact key of the original march, but the notes from the main theme were originally: [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Sonata_No.2_%28Chopin%2C_Frederic%29]

Bb---Bb---Bb-Bb---Db---C-C---Bb-Bb---Bb-Bb

As you can see, the second last interval is changed from a unison (tonic to tonic) to a minor third (submediant to tonic). I suppose it's forgivable, considering that a lot of the cartoon and pop culture references to Chopin's funeral march actually change the second last note to a leading tone (the note right below the tonic), but Strong Bad skips yet another tone down. Anyway, that's my music rant for the day.

~Stapler

:Cool, thanks for the analysis! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pine-a for me-a ==

"Pining" is a reference to [[trevor the vampire]], is it not? I noticed that this was a trivia fact in Trogdor when Strong Bad says "I pine for you!"
: It's just a word. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
: PS. The reason it's mentioned for Trogdor is due to the ''way'' he says it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It has been a while since he's used that phrase, and the way it's said seems to suggest a deliberate reference to his older incarnations. Among other things, the "pine-uh for me-uh" is a somewhat exaggerated way of using his old pseudo-Mexican accent ("I like-a to say, 'Holy crap!'"). Think that's got any merit to it? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::To pne means to "Yearn intensely and persistently especially for something unattainable." according to Webster's Dictionary. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:39, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Taxidoimied... Bugs Bunny reference? ==

When Strong Bad says "taxidoimied," I believe it is a reference to Bugs Bunny, who would quite often mispronounce words the same way by pronouncing the "er" in words as "oi" instead. And I can think of no other place he could've gotten that from. Anyone agree? -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 07:17 PM, March 16, 2007 (EST)
:It could be, but I'm tempted to say no. If it's used in places other than Bugs Bunny (and references of it), then probably not. If you can't find anything, it could be, but I'd wait for more responses. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 23:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Where did Mel Blanc get that manner of speech? It's a Brooklyn accent. People in Brooklyn talk like that to this day. This is definitely not a direct reference to Bugs, as that would be TTATOT. It's just a funny pronunciation based on a well-known accent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Absolutely. That accent existed long before Bugs was around. FWIW, Blanc claimed that he combined Brooklyn and Bronx accents to create the rabbit's voice. --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Absoloitly. Not a reference at oil! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Character Variation/Zombie Bad ==

With the character variation article, there's only the one form of strong bad zombie. I think there should be a second entry to cover the 2046 equivalent. [[User:220.245.178.139|220.245.178.139]] 05:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

:Well, the 2046 version of Strong Bad doesn't look any different than normal Strong Bad, other than that he's wearing tattered jeans, has a brain hat on, and is spitting out grape jelly. I'm pretty sure he's still alive there. So.. I don't really think he needs another entry. But.. that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::Of course he's still alive, he says that he hopes the zombies will still let him join their side. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, it's not a variation. It's a costume and should be listed in [[Strong Bad Other Costumes]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Of course he was alive. His eyes were alive. At the two funerals in the emails, his eyes died and lost their greenness when he died. I'm positive they weren't closed because they still have their gradient and he can see with them. I think that might not even be 2046, just staged. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== 5 boom boxes, 1 tape ==

I can't believe no one else has mentioned this yet, but whats the deal with the 5 boom boxes apparently all playing in PERFECT synchronization. and secondly. that coach z breaks into all of them at the exact same time. That essentially means that he wouldve had to record over the original tape before strong bad made copies of it. Thirdly. only 1 of the 5 boomboxes lets u see the tape. Most if not all tape players let u see the tape, so u can tell if its going or not --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 06:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it be a more simple explanation that he's got all 5 wired together to play off of one of the tape decks off one tape? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::Assuming that those old-style boomboxes could even do such a thing - they werent exactly filled with ports and holes for cross-wiring - they all have the play button pushed down, or are saying "playin'" or something...
:::I have an old boom box from 1982 or so that has two sets each, in and out, of RCA jacks. It certainly wasn't top of the line, either. I used it as speakers for my first CD player, and I had to have Play mashed down for the audio to pass through. --Septyn, 18Mar07
:they all have a pause button though... suspension of disbelief!! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::The wires are behind the boomboxes. Believe me, I checked. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::When you're talking about how the boomboxes are set up, how they were taped over, how they're in sync, etc... Just remember, one of the boomboxes is a ''cardboard box with stuff drawn on it''. Then keep the rest in perspective. Seriously. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Hair? ==

Is that pubic hair on the belly of the guy standing next to the Coughin' with the duck shirt?
:No, I'm sure it's intended to be belly hair — TBC work very hard to keep their toons PG. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::[[Wikipedia:Abdominal hair]] {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to be more scared by, the fact that that page exists, or that you found it and linked it, but its definitely belly hair [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 21:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Echo ==

How can you have an echo in an open field if there is nothing to reflect your voice off of? --18:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You're in the wrong talk page. You want Drive-Thru. And I don't know why. --[[User:Homestar3.14|Homestar3.14]] 18:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taranchula ==

Shouldn't it be mentioned that Taranchula is a direct reference back to [[death metal]]? I mean, that's where they first appeared.
Ya know... when he started saying how he was going to do something different from Chopin, I thought for sure he was going to say Limozeen...
-Zero.exe
:Eh, it kinda goes without saying. And besides, this isn't even the first email that Taranchula has been mentioned in. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 12:35 AM, 24 March 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, actually, Taranchula was mentioned first in the same e-mail Limozeen was. Then again in the montage one (only breifly, their name was seen on a record). --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Mind Your P's and ... P's. ===
{{stufffact|Since P is the 16th letter in the English alphabet, it makes sense for pizza places to be in chapter 16 of the phone book.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)|23:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|18|0|your funeral}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== A Ninja Reference's Last Words?? ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad recording his own Eulogy is similar to an episode of the popular podcast series, Ask a Ninja, in the episode "Last Words", because he asks people to pre-record their final words.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)|05:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|18|0|your funeral}}

== Off the chain/charts. ==

Now that we know what off the hook, off the grid, and off the wagon mean, we should probably show what being off the chain and off the charts mean, right? I mean I noticed that Off the Chain happens to be some band's album. Same thing with Off the Charts. Go to wikipedia and you'll know what I mean. Are they worth being put in the Real-World References section or not?
-[[User: Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]]
:"Off the charts" is a generic phrase meaning something along the lines of "these readings are so high, our instruments cannot measure them". A thermometer that only went to 100 degrees trying to record a 150-degree temperature would read the temperature as "off the charts". Essentially, it's "higher than you can measure". No idea what "off the chain" means, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== 2046 Strong Sad reference? ==

I just noticed a remarkable similarity between the 2046 version of Strong Sad, and his easter-egg action figure in [[action_figure|sbemail 42]]. Does anyone else think this is noteworthy? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm, on second look, maybe the similarity is just in his arms. Meh. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd say it's just the muscular arms. Similar, but not necessarily a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== The End of the... what the heck? ==

Since my {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466929&oldid=465536 reference}} has created much confusion/edit {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466965&oldid=466958 reversal}}, I will post a better explanation here to start/continue the discussion (I'd rather do this before trying to STUFF anything):

The "reference":
:''The phrases "locusts and famine" and "doomsday device" are references to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].''

First, this is how the conversation transpired (note that once "conversations" start in the edit history, it's best to move them to a talk page):
* Stux (Talk | contribs) (→Real-World References - ref to armageddon (so is the zombie uprising in a way, should that be included?), please rephrase as necessary)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (i doubt that, these phrases are too common)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The phrases came from Armageddon originally, didn't they?)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (nope. locusts and famine are mentioned in the bible, doomsday devices appear in a lot of sci-fi)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The biblical Armegaddon? I just want to be sure we're talking about the same thing.)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (undid revision 466958 by Shwoo (Talk) no)

With more careful though, I realized that these are essentially two separate (but related) references:
*The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction.

To be clear, like Shwoo said I was referring to the biblical Armageddon (per the link provided), not the movie. I thought there were several "end of the world" themes that were left out of the discussion. This also includes the mention of "zombie attacks". Most modern zombie movies portray zombies as an infectious being that can turn the entire world into zombies, thus bringing another "doomsday" scenario. I would like to suggest that these three "doomsday" references be combined into one section with three subsections describing each topic. One last thing: the phrase "locusts and famine" does in fact come from the bible: they're two of the disasters mentioned in the book of revelation. What say ye all? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think that there's enough of a connection to warrant a reference. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree. Similar references have been found in other movies and shows. Anywho, I wanted to present a variation of what I thought the fact could look like:
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*This email makes a few references to the end of the world:
**The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction capable of detroying all life on earth.
----
::Of course I can't think of anything for zombies, as that is a bit more general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think there's that much of a connection for the "locusts and famine" thing. They're both common doomsday scenarios. As for the "doomsday device," that is WAY too general and a little too self-explanatory to be worthy of a reference, in my opinion. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}}

== Zombie Fact ==

Did you know that the zombie effect in Michael Jackson's music video "Thriller", is achieved by the use of grape jelly? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_%28music_video%29#Trivia [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, it's already in the article, ignore me. [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

:Okay! {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 20:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gray eyes? ==

*Both when dead and as a zombie (at the funeral), Stong Bad's eyes look as they did back in the early Tandy emails, just blackish-grey.

Okay, so when I first saw this, my immediate response was, "Wait, Strong Bad's eyes never looked like that." Just to be certain, I went all the way back to [[some kinda robot]] and, sure enough, his eyes were green. Unless all the Tandy emails were edited later so he had green eyes (and I'm not sure why they would have ever been grey in the Tandy emails, seeing as how his eyes were even green in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]), this fact is... well, what's the phrase I'm looking for... not true. Unless there's something I don't know (and if there is, somebody please fill me in), I'm removing this fact pending further discussion. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

:I think it means: They have the ''style'' of the Tandymails (without the 2 little circles in the corner of his eyes), but instead of green they're blackish-gray. --[[User:AlmsforthePudgy|AlmsforthePudgy]] 14:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wow. That really needs a rewording. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wait, no, I take it back... it doesn't really seem noteworthy. If they're not the same color, what's the point in drawing the comparison? {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's Room? ==

The Purple Room in the Easter Egg could be 2046 Strong Sad's Room
:Is it? Last time I read, it was a warehouse.---{{User:Record307/sig}} 00:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::"Could be" means speculation. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:04, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:your funeral

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:33:23 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Book of Phone */

== 2:03 ==

I think that when Strong Bad mentions that the zombies will come at 2:03 it is a reference to Strong Sad's Lament when he says that Tuesdays at 2:03 is his favorite time.
:- It's possible, but it's a bit of a stretch. Especially since March 31, 2047 falls on a Saturday. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::But the easter egg takes place in ''2046''. In which case March 31 is a Sunday. Either way, it's not Tuesday. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Sad likes Tuesdays at 3:02, not 2:03. [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 02:35, 16 March 2007

== Homestar and Marzipan ==

I'm not sure if it belongs on the wiki, but is it possible that Homestar and Marzipan live with each other? The front of Marzipan's house looks the same, and Homestar's broken Cow lamp may be a different room besides the front. should this be on their relationship page?

:I don't think so. Marzipan's house is blue, as seen in 2003 Halloween toon [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and Homestar is trick or treating at this house. Though Homestar is kinda funny and doesn't think somethings through most of the time, I don't think he would trick or treat at his own home. Homestar's house is gray as seen in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However it could be that this ''is'' the same house and is only colored based on the season (blue because it's night and grey because of the cold snow). [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 16:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::If you look on the pages for [[Homestar's House]] and [[Marzipan's House]], the interior rooms look different, meaning they can't live together. On the other hand, that makes me wonder why he said, "Marzipan, I'm home!" when he doesn't actually live there. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Huh. Maybe that was just Homestar being Homestar and confirming things he doesn't even know about. Kind of like the whole "It's time for tasteball!", "Oh, crap. Tasteball already." bit. 18:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:This scene is Strong Bad's future speculation (after all, he's dead at this point). It's possible that Homestar and Marzipan could be cohabitating at this future time, no? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:In the commentary for [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], TBC said that they didn't want anyone thinking that Homestar and Marzipan live together (or something to that effect). [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Can I help?==
can I help with trying to find some glitches? -[[User:TheDenzel|The Denzel]] 01:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Do whatever you want to help. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== the email is down right now. ==

This probably means it will soon be updated in a way that will be of interest for the 'glitch/trivia' section.[[User:168.156.44.101|168.156.44.101]] 02:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:...uh, no. It's not. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:(if you are getting a 404'd from it, hold down the shift key and hit the reload button) {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 02:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It perhaps wasn't gone for long, I reloaded it SEVERAL during a few minutes when it wouldn't seem to appear.[[User:24.22.145.14|24.22.145.14]] 05:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::This is unremarkable, it happens all the time. It's on your end. You need to clear your cache or force a reload using the aforementioned trick. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Homestar lip dot?==
When Homestar is reading from the phone book, one of the mouth frames has a black dot on it, and shows up whenever that particular frame is up. — [[User:69.105.202.40|69.105.202.40]] ([[User talk:69.105.202.40|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.105.202.40|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

- Check please. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I checked the email. The dot is very small and faint, but it does trully exist. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::frame 2031, it is an error with his eye. when he closes his eyes, one of them does not get fully erased. {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::If it is not noticeable to the viewer except by manipulation, it's not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Too far? ==

O_O Too... i dunno. Definitely not for kids. More PG-13 rated.

[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Uh... Why? Because there's corpses? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 02:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It's all pretty cartoony, expecially how Strong Bad continues to fail staying dead. Strong Bad waking up with an exposed ribcage creeped me out a little, but I wouldn't say the email went too far. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I think they were in danger of going too far, given the rather morbid question, but I have to say they handled it quite nicely. I mean, Homestar reading from the phone book at a eulogy? Genius! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::: Got it! [[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Getting a bit forumy here. Let's keep this page about the content. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:No one ever made the claim that Homestar Runner was a cartoon for children. (In fact, in the email "For kids," Strong Bad is quite opposed to the idea, heh.) I didn't see you complaining when one of the members of Blue Laser got a fork jammed in his eye. Stop taking it so seriously. [[User:0rion|0rion]]
::[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=10241 Read this thread]. I don't know if the person who started this section complained about it, but some people have. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Ummm, I don't know why, but this e-mail creeped me out too. Everybody! is right. I know, I know, I'm weird... Also, my friend was talking to me about this website, and she said it was a family website. 0.o I dunno.--[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 21:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Please do not add to this forum-style topic. This talk page is for discussing article content only.'''
::I think itsa little creepy, i dont get creeped out like that, but its definatly not in the category of PG-13. I think it should not be seen for girls under the age of 7, and boys under the age of 4. LOL! [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:20, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Egg - future SB ==

Are you sure he's a zombie in the egg? When he came out of the jar as a zombie he had black eyes and a visible rib. In the egg it looks like he's just stuck somethng to his head, put on some tattered jeans and is spitting out a mouthful of grape jelly. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. I think he's still alive there.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Which would agree with what he said at the end of the email. How he hoped the zombies would let him be on their side, even though he was alive. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:While I see where you all are coming from, in my opinion, SB acts more like a zombie in the easter egg than in the e-mail. That is, in the e-mail proper, he has complete and full consciousness, while such presumably cannot be said for egg SB. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, he ''acts'' like a zombie, anyone can spit out jelly while saying "Blarg". - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]]
:::I don't exactly follow. It's true that ''anyone'' can spit out jelly and say, "Blarg." My point is that it would be unthinkable, or at least improbable, that a zombie would speak coherently and recognize people, as Strong Bad does when he breaks out of the jar. I was merely pointing out that easter egg SB seems more zombie-esque (by merit of being less human-esque) than he does in the e-mail itself. It also seems likely that he's just pretending to be a zombie, as this is hinted at in the end of the e-mail. So, in my opinion, he's not really a zombie in either scenario. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 19:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::It's kinda hard to just be ''pretending'' your a zombie when your skin is tattered and rotting and your ribcage is exposed. I see your point, and it's valid, but it still doesn't justify why he'd still be alive when he breaks out of the jar. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 7:04 PM, March 18, 2007 (EST)

== References in future characters? ==

Do you think Future Pom Pom and Future Strong Sad are references in themselves? Future Pom Pom looks a lot like Duke Nukem... — [[User:68.44.220.232|68.44.220.232]] ([[User talk:68.44.220.232|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.44.220.232|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])
:By their faces, beards, cigars, and ammo belts, I am willing to wager that it is a reference to the Contra series of video games and the 2 main chracters from the original game in that series. See the picture located [http://www.racketboy.com/retro/contra-arcade.jpg here] for confirmation purposes.~[[User:DanZero|DanZero]] 06:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Interesting — I wonder if there's a closer reference though, only because Contra doesn't have anything like zombies in it. Or maybe it's just a general reference to that style of gritty '80s action hero... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Sure does seem to look a lot like contra... hard to piece together why they'd use that tho. other than the fact that it was like the best game ever --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 07:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I just thought they were the archetype of futuristic survivors. I didn't see a particular reference, it's endemic to the genre. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::I thought Strong Sad was a bit reminiscent of Snake Plissken from the film "Escape From New York", but it might just be me. [[User:Klarsh|Klarsh]] 16:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Not sure how relevant it is, but am I alone in thinking there are similarities between future Strong Sad and the Strong Sad action figure? -Xerzes, who hasn't done this enough to remember how to make the sig and timestamp happen.

::My first impression was that Pom Pom looked like Cable from the X-Men animated series but it's been a while since I've seen that. An X-Men connection could explain the Doomsday device though, which was created to kill all the mutants (or in this case, zombies). Then again, post-apocalyptic scenarios with cigars and doomsday devices are pretty common! [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 12:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:::It's probably just TTATOT, seeing how many references we've been able to come up with. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

== screaming yellow ==

Is there any evidence that this is really a reference to the candy, and not say, to the car? Either seems pretty much arbitrary to me. Perhaps the candy is a bit more in "TBC style" as far as references go (so retro). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: But TBC didn't make the reference... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::yes, of course, since this is in the body of the email received, it should be assumed that TBC are refering to nothing at all, and it's simply word for word the email they received. At any rate, it feels like speculation to me. Though, there are only 2 or 3 things in the popular lexicon that I can imagine the author of the email intended. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it was a faulty reference to Dripping Yellow Madness. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 05:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Although I have no problems in keeping the reference out (since any reference made by a fan is borderline as it is), I don't think it's a matter of [[TTATOT]]. I'm almost certain that it's a reference to Screamin' Yellow Zonkers. If this gets taken to a vote, I'll green light it, but as of right now, I have no problems with it being left out. - [[User:0rion|0rion]]
Removed as speculation, we have no idea what the author intended and there is more than one
possiblity {{User:Bryanc/sig}}:
<blockquote>*'Screaming Yellow Strong Bad' is presumably a reference to the snack food [[Wikipedia:Screaming Yellow Zonkers|Screaming Yellow Zonkers]].</blockquote>
Ideas in the email itself are not TBC created, and as such are not notable references in nearly all cases. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: I think they should have continued the joke...I mean, Screaming Yellow Zonkers? Screaming Yellow Zombie? I'm not sayings it's comedic gold,like commas, but it's definitely the same style humor as this website. ~ Shadix

In my mind, I thought it was a reference to [[Unseen Characters|Dripping Yellow Madness]] from [[Cool Things]], but since it was part of the e-mail rather than something that's within the toon inself, I didn't bother mentioning anything. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 15:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Vocal Effect ==

What effect did they put on Strong bads Voice when he was "zombiefied" its Awesome, and being the Avant-Garde Musician, it would help a lot (music wise). Thanks.

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i think it's an allusion to what happens to the character "jordy" (played by stephen king) in the movie creepshow. the undead jordy sounds just like the undead strong bad.

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Awesome, ill read up on that. now i need to find out how to replicate it ^^

FWIW, it's used in the movie "Creepshow" AGAIN as the vocal effect on the dead father in "Father's Day"...

: Months late and dollars short, but it's a question worth answering in case the asker ever looks again. You can probably achieve this effect or something very similar to it with extreme settings on a [[Wikipedia:Flanging|flanger]]. Sounds like a modulation frequency of at least 15 Hz and probably zero feedback, but I can't guess at the modulation depth or wet/dry mix without experimentation. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Passion Reference?? ==

Am I the only one who sees a ridiculous amount of Passion of the Christ references? Strong Sad carrying the jar like the cross while being whipped, Strong Bad's exposed ribcage, references to the repeatedly changed day of prophecy that the souls of the dead will come back as zombies and attack the living? Am I crazy or just the only one morbid enough to see it?
*You're crazy and unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: Ah, very good then. Thought: Baleeted.
::And you're still unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The first two I could kind of understand, though I would call them more coincidental. The last one makes no sense: when in Mel Gibson's film did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed day of a prophecy that souls of the dead will come back and attack the living? [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:Never seen the movie, but when in ''this email'' did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed date that souls of the dead would come back? Strong Bad didn't change the date of the zombie revolution; he just got more and more specific as to the time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Does the whipping thing reference ''anything''? it seems like it should... --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:No, it's just a poke at slavery. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 18:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== 2046? 20X6? ==

Could this be a reference? I know it means that 2046 is NOT 20X6 (as the characters look completely different from their 20X6 forms) but could the similarity of the years be a reference? You know, a nudge from TBC, baiting us, telling us "Hey, here's one that it's NOT, good luck figuring out which one it IS." [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think that 20X6 is actually one year, or else last year would also be 20X6. When Sam (from Concord, California) who asked the e-mail in [[time capsule]] said it would be opened in X0 years, I think Strong Bad took X0 as an actual way to calculate time in years. {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::That does not directly address the question I brought up in any way. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the year "2046" often used in some comicbooks to depict a future alternate reality? I know there's a movie called [[Wikipedia:2046 (film)|2046]], but I don't recall zombies in that. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 14:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I think you're talking about 2099. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
:Well, I know I looked on the back of a really old Metroid game box in a computer store and it said "In the year 20X5..." -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 22:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, you guys. Have a look at the intro paragraph of [[20X6]] ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fourth wall Break? ==

Marzipan just leaned over the edge of the left side of the frame. Is this a fourth wall break? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:You're joking right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 13:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Don't be mean. Now, I can see what you're trying to say. If she physically manipulated the frame (which we wouldn't be able to see anyway), THEN it would be a fourth wall break. As far as we're concerned, it's like someone leaning away from they're cooking to talk to their relative, or something. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 14:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh thanks for your help Bryanc. B-( {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 19:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I did not mean to be rude, I'm very sorry I came across that way. But this is not close to what a break in the theatrical 4th wall means. A "fourth wall" break is when the actors acknowledge that they are actors. It was to be somewhat jarring, like out of nowhere Strong Sad looks into the camera and says "Hello!". That is breaking 4th wall. It's toyed with a lot and the lines are blurred here. Which makes it a little difficult to say what and what.
{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

==Addendum==

An addendum is "something added or to be added, especially a supplement to a book". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's nice to know. go ahead and put it under the "Explanations" sectionor the remarks section. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno — do we usually list definitions of words under Explanations, unless it has something to do with the context of the toon? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Breaking References??==
I'm against listing "So Cold" by Breaking Benjamin as a reference for the funeral procession. I just watched the video again on Youtube, and there's nothing there to link it as a reference, beyond the fact that they're both funeral processions, which is far from unique. At the very least, I think the wording should be changed, "oddly reminiscent" is too vague and seems to me to be an admission that it's not really a reference. Either re-word it into a definite, specific reference or get rid of it completely. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's a reference either. I say, go ahead and remove it, and if anyone thinks it should stay they can STUFF it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Bibendum image ==

The Bibendum easter egg isn't just a Michelin reference, it's a direct reference to [http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Le-Pneu-Michelin-Nunc-Est-Bibendum-Giclee-Print-C12046037.jpeg this classic ad]. According to [[Wikipedia:Michelin#Bibendum|Wikipedia]], which provides a translation of the ad's text, the name of the mascot (which is Latin for "to drink") originated with this ad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 19:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, good find — you're right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Good job. you can go ahead and put that on the page WITH the picture.
:Waaait a second there, man. "bibendum" is a gerund, so it just means "drinking" (in its use as a noun, not a verb or adjective, e.g. "Drinking is fun").
::The image is clearly a reference to the ad, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Newlydead ==
When Strong Bad said 'newlydead', do you think he was making a play on 'newlywed'? I know it doesn't really fit the context, but just by the way it sounds...maybe not....--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I'd say that's probably where he derived the word. Typical Strong Bad coinage, I'd say. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Count me in too. An easy pun Strong Bad would say. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. Very yes. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 21:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Chaup au Fan? ==

What is a "Chaup au Fan"? If anyone knows, this should be added to Explanations. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:It sounds like very poor and broken French. Literally, I think it would be "[Nonexistent word] to the fan[as in, a Homestar fan, not a fan which would move air]." Perhaps by « Chaup » they were trying to make "Chap" sound more French? Thus, the image was created by the Chaps for a fan? Chaup could be a French word, I'm not certain (I'm only in fifth-year French), but it's not one I've ever heard, nor can I find it in my dictionary. Oh, and by the way, the pronunciation (following the IPA standards) would probably be something like: ʃop o fɑ̃ [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

::While I appreciate the linguistic exploration (I do love those), I'm assuming it must actually mean something. It's unlike TBC to include something like this which is made up out of whole cloth. There's gotta be a meaning to this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:::True; "From the Chaps, for a fan" would be my best guess at the actual meaning, but who knows. Again, maybe they just wanted to make it look French, Michelin being a French company. I'll look into the issue further.[[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:I may be completely crazy, but it seems to me to be similar to the way Strong Sad produces "Chaparone" in senior prom. Anyone? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's just Strong Sad's (quite good) French accent that makes them sound similiar. And I favor an explantion of what this term means by someone who knows as I've been able to find nothing about it. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::: It's pretty much just nonsense. There's a "translation" up there ^ a few lines, but it's just telling you that what Strong Sad's saying doesn't make sense. I've taken four years of French and I can tell you thatit's garbage. Pure garbage, sister. Also, I feel that SS's accent leaves much to be desired... he overdoes it on many an occasion. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Apparently at this point we're confident that "Chaup au Fan" is simply gibberish. While saying that, and noting the relation to dance terms as the context of the toon supports, are notable, the speculative meanings are just that, and as such I will remove them from the article and note them in this thread.

:*The way it's initially said by Strong Bad and Strong Sad sounds like a mispronunciation of "coq au vin," which is chicken in wine sauce, a popular French dish. It might also be an intentional misspelling (to seem even more French) of the term "chapeau fan," which would literally translate as a "fan hat" (e.g. a baseball cap pertaining to a favorite team).

::::{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Put him in a jar? ==

I don't hear "put him in a jar," but rather "brother in a jar." Anyone else? -just a random newb

Actually, I thought it sounded like "funeral in a jar" [[User:63.165.156.213|63.165.156.213]] 23:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

not enough syllables. speaking of, when they say it the third time, and also in the easter egg, they run the words together, so it's more like "puteminajar". does anyone else think this should be indicated in the transcript? [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:I definitely heard brother on a second viewing. Also, it could be "fun'ral," so syllables aren't an issue. Could we maybe get a vote? I cast my vote... '''BROTHER'''-wards! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:It doesn't sound like "brother" to me. There's no r sound. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 06:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I definitely heard "put him" (I was the transcriber.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I hear "brother in a jar". -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 01:45, 16 March 2007 (CST)
::::I also definitely hear "put him".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::While I'm not sure exactly what it says, I am pretty certain that I hear neither "brother in a jar" nor "put him in a jar." I've listened to it over and over again, and instead of "in," it sounds like it's saying "for," though I have not been able to come up with a wording for the sentence in which that would make sense. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 03:11, 16 March 2007 (EST)
:I watched it three times this week and heard "Brother in a jar." I also thought "fall back" was "Pom Bag" and that it was supposed to be 2046 Pom Pom's name. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::I hear "Put him in a jar" [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 17:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::My best guess is "Pull him from the jar". I definitely hear it starting with "P" sound, and I'm pretty sure about the "f" sound ("from" or maybe "for") and "the jar" instead of "a jar". Maybe the second word is "it" instead of "him". But maybe we'd better just wait til they release it as a quote. I hope they do! -another random newb, 22:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, your guess sounds a lot closer.

Should we add a footnote to the transcript? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:We don't usually do that when we're unsure.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::I found similar footnotes in [[boring (really)]] and [[candy product]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The footnote is useful when there is no consensus, or equal consensus for different options. In this case I don't really know if there us consesnus, but I'm personally happy to allow the footnote to remain as proposed while discussion ensues. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I watched it several times, and I always heard "put him in a jar". Well, more like "puteminajar", as Neumannz said. It also makes more sense. I can't see "brother in a jar" being relevant, and about "funeral in a jar", the funeral isn't in the jar. It's in.. wherever the funeral is. But that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

:I hear "put him in a jar" too, which makes the most sense, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I can only hear "put him in a jar". ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 23:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC))

Well, now that the Quote of the Week says "brother" instead of "put him", I may suggest every single change to the transcript and subtitles once again. Man, same issue with Marzipan's word booty. Anyway, I'm only visiting, and then I'm leaving again. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, that goes without saying. We don't really need to be reminded to make those changes. (He's talking about [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-22|this quote]], by the way.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yay, I got it! And some others, but not the majority, got it too! [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
:High fives all around! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 03:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yay! -just the random newb who started all of this
:::The QotW says "brother in a jar", but I hear "put him in a jar". Ignore the "User:". [[User:Neox]]

== Coach Z 1234 Beat ==

The beat in Strong Bad's funeral kind of sounds like the #1 hit: [[These Peoples Try To Fade Me]] -{{User:Viklas/sig}}

:Sounded more like Another One Bites The Dust to me... [[User:74.119.23.212|74.119.23.212]] 00:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:TTAOT, it sounded like a generic rap to me. Which could sound like a lot of raps. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== World War Z ==

This is really just idle speculation, but has anyone hear ever read World War Z? It's a story about what would happen if Zombies really did attack humanity within the next 30-40 years. I'm pretty sure that TBC hasn't even heard of the book, but still, I feel like this deserves a minor refrence due to the similarities, like here, on the talk page. Also, could Screaming Yellow be a reference to Kyle the Yellow Dart Smith? Again, idle speculation
:Actually, I was more apt to believe the zombie references in this email have to do with the horror/sci-fi genre of video games and movies, like Resident Evil and the like. But that's already starting down the TTATOT path. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::'''NEVER''' use my name in vain. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:There's also a book called ''The Zombie Survival Guide'', and probably countless others in the same strain. You could never have a reference, it's just TTATOT. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::How coincidental. I was reading both those books just today. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::It was probably a reference to "Dripping Yellow Madness." [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think the zombie uprising was a reference to anything in particular, because that's been used in a lot of different stories/movies/whatever. And I'm really not sure what Screaming Yellow was a reference to, but since it was from the fan, they could be just writing random words or something to make it sound funny. Who knows?
::::Also, what's TTATOT mean? {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 21:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::See [[TTATOT]]: "'This That And The Other Thing.' Applicable when a reference in a toon could refer to one of many similar things. The rule of thumb is that if it could apply to several things, it probably refers to nothing in particular."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== Same? ==

Is Strong Sad really saying the same thing that his Bibendum advert has written out? It sounds more like he's saying chapon fond, chape en front, chape en fan, or even chapeau fort, more than Chaup au fan. Unless he just has horrible French pronunciation. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:There's no copy in that ad which would be reasonably mispronounced by a moderately-educated person as "Chap au fan" - and this is TBC we're talking about. This is clearly something but what? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:Just a wild shot in the dark, but we are talking about the Chap brothers' website, right?

:I'm pretty sure he is indeed saying the same thing as the text in the ad, but there might be an off chance it's "something enfant". Perhaps "Chaps enfant" meaning that Strong Bad is a (brain)child of the Brothers Chaps. It's a bit of a stretch, and I think in proper French the "s" at the end of "Chaps" would be pronounced at the beginning of "enfant" anyway. Just a thought. - {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:Strong Sad's pronuciation in French is, whenever he's done it before, quite good. It would be out of character if he were screwing this up. Any dancers out there? I really would like to know what Monsieur Sad is referring to. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a ballroom dancer. I think what Strong Sad is saying is "chassé font" (pronounced more or less like what Strong Sad said, like "schahs auh faunt") which is a move we use in ballroom to mean a long step forward, followed by sliding the other foot to neutral position again. In other words, extend the first (usually right) leg like a lady's lunge in tango, then slide the other foot back, the foot ending sideways. Does that make sense? The only problem I see is that isn't really a flashy move, so why would SS want to show it off? [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

::Is that how it's pronounced in ballroom dancing terms? Because in French, it would be pronounced more like "shahs say fon(with a nasal 't' suggested at the end)." [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::I don't speak a word of French, so I'm probably entirely inaccurate in the pronunciation. My ballroom teacher is from Wisconsin, so that probably influences the accent a bit ;) [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]
:::I think you mean a nasal "n" sound. The t is silent. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::That's why I said it was suggested at the end; the nasalization of the "n" suggests a "t" afterwards. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::::Oh. That's kinda weird, but okay, I guess. Really, though, the nasal n could suggest other letters, so I would have just said that, but hey, whatever floats your boat. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 13:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::One thing I also thought of, silly as it may be: this may also link to SB's comment about a "chappy thong." Reason being is if you aren't used to moving correctly, certain garments like to wedge themselves in uncomfortable places. [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

== Phone Book ==

Anyone else notice that this is the second email in a row to refer to a phone book? The last has Homestar mentioning that the "real money is in" phone books, and this one has has the reading from the "book of phone." Is this, perhaps, setting itself up as another running gag? Or, more interestingly, might it somehow be tied into the recent DNA references? --left unsigned

:Hm -- I think it's a coincidence. Much like the [[Talk:unnatural#Chocolate cake again! I said chocolate cake again!|chocolate cake]] reference in [[unnatural]], there's nothing else that ties it to the previous appearance... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:We'll see if it comes up again next email [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

::Yeah, probably just a coincidence. But I still think the chocolate cake thing was anything but coincidental.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 11:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Mycology and Leonard part 6 ==

the tape in the boOOMmbox says my c00logy, which is much like mycology, the study of fungi. fungi eat dead people. fungi probably are eating dead strong bad.<s> fun fact?</s> notable? prolly. also, the reference to leotards being part of a weapon is reminescent of Leonard part 6. {{User:Csours/sig}} 17:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's notable. He's just emphasizing how COOL his eulogy is. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 17:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed. (And it probably needs adding to [[Portmanteaus]]. I'll go do that now...) {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::: <strike>Just another thought- should it go in [[Internet Slang]] too? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)</strike>
::::...actually, now that I look at it, it's COOLogy rather than c00logy, so discount that.{{User:Kahteh/sig}} 22:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's notable to point out that this webpage may be the only webpage in existence that refers to both The Passion and Leonard Part 6
:::::[http://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=3fc&q=%22Passion%20of%20the%20Christ%22%20%22Leonard%20Part%206%22&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=iw That's simply not true.] --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fixed it? ==

I re-watched the e-mail again, and it looks like that when he says "funeral's" he actually types funeral's now.

== "Marizipan i'm home!" ==

I can't think what, but I'm sure this is a parody on something, there was a TV show where sombody said "*Someone* I'm home!" in very similar mannor... [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 21:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:It's basically a cliche by now... It was done a lot in those '50s shows. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe "Lucy, I'm home!"? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 22:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:It was such a cliche on black and white tv shows that there was a truly terrible television show, a parody (though really stretching the definition of the word) made for Nick at Nite in the late early '90's named after it. (I can't believe that they actually made a wiki article about it, but yeah, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi_Honey%2C_I%27m_Home "Hi Honey I'm Home."] People have explained the cliche as that it was a followup from the mentality of radio. On a radio show, a character can't just open a door and begin the conversation, because the audience can't see it. They have to open the door and say "hello, I'm home," often with the other characters saying "Why, look, it's XXX." --XXX

That's probly it then. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Suplexing the Couger ==

The Odd thing about that is that I know of no suplex in which the head is downward facing.

All Suplexes I know, involve the heads of both te suplexer and the suplxee to be near to each other when the move is being done.

What stuffed-Strong Bad looks like he's doing is either a piledriver or perhaps a Powerbomb.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 01:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

: Take it from a long-time wrestling fan: what he's doing is indeed a suplex. German suplexes are done differently (with the head right-side up), but that's not what he's doing. Here's how it's done: with the person standing in front of you and facing you, bend them over and put their head under your arm. Grab the waist of their pants with the other arm and lift the person up over your head (they'll be upside down), then pretty much just fall back, making sure to cause as much impact between the other person's back and the ground as possible. This is what stuffed Strong Bad appears to be doing in his pose -- just starting to fall backwards. It's okay if the opponent's head is down by your side instead of by your own head; it's still a suplex. His back will just hit more on your shoulder than the ground. (Sorry if I didn't use proper terminology in this explanation.) -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 06:42, 16 March 2007 (EST)
::In the Kirby type- videogames, he has a move called Suplex, and most of you probably know that. He does a suplex but instead of falling back he grabs them by the neck withouht flipping them back, jumps in the air,and slams the enemy in the ground, then it dies. If anyone wants a look, buy the game or look up Kirby Suplex in Youtube. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:29, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Jar Meniscus ==

Hey, should that be a Fun Fact or something? When Strong Sad is carrying Strong Bad (on the Taranchula scene) the meniscus in the water is still angled to the angle of the jar, rather than horizontal like it should. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 01:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:hey thanks, now I know what the word "meniscus" means. But I still don't see what you are talking about here. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:: The water is defying gravity, essentially. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::Ok, I see it now. The liquid should be level with the horizon to obey the laws of physics. I still dunno about "meniscus", that is the salt water tears of many heartbroken private school girls. Supposedly. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::'Meniscus' is just the scientific term for the top of the liquid, rather than what the liquid is. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Wouldn't that be more of a "goof" than a "remark?" [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, it just seems like weird things that should be correct are more likely in trivia or fun facts, but hey, I'm new here. And yes, 'meniscus' is just the very top of the water. i.e. you look at the meniscus in a measuring cup or a test tube, per se, to find out how much is inside it. -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== The Plagues ==

Hordes of locusts and Famine? Isn't this a clear reference to the 10 plagues of Egypt in the first testament/torah? Or am I missing something? Did someone else catch this?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 22:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's what came to mind when I heard it. [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It might be, but those are not actually limited to biblical times: [[wikipedia:1915 locust plague|1915 locust plague]] and [[wikipedia:Famine|famine]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Locusts was one of the 10 plagues, famine was not. There was famine in Egypt, but that was during the time of Joseph, not Moses. The ten plagues were:
:::#Blood
:::#Frogs
:::#Lice
:::#Flies
:::#Animals dying of disease (there's no shorter way to translate it into English)
:::#Boils
:::#Hail and Fire
:::#Locusts
:::#Darkness
:::#Death of the firstborns
:::For more information see [[Wikipedia:Plagues of Egypt]] or, more directly, Exodus 7:14-12:36. But I don't think that by one of them appearing, especially one of the ones that commonly happens, you can say it's a clear reference, I don't think you can even say it's a reference at all. Maybe if it was about one of the less common ones and specifically mentioned all the water turning to blood, or hail that had fire in it, fine. It's like saying that since [[Blood|blood]] appears commonly in the HR universe, it's also a reference to the plagues. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 10:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:This is a reference to the book of Joel which speaks of "Hordes of locusts and Famine", you can read it online here: http://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1401.htm it's just four short chapters, and you only need to read the first one to get the point. [[User:89.139.134.185|89.139.134.185]] 11:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

==Book of Phone==

The first thing that came to mind when he said it that way was the [[Wikipedia: Book of Genesis|Book of Genesis]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:So? It's obvious this is a Bible reference. Which book? There are many. It's [[TTATOT]] or explaining the joke, pick one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Moreover, Genesis usually isn't read at funerals; "Book of Psalms" or "Book of Lamentations" or something else would have fit better. But I think it's really just a broad Bible reference, and not notable. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:It sounds like the book of Job. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
::It will be unknown forever what book of the Bible he is talking about. but this is no doubt this IS a biblical reference. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:33, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Reotarded? ==

Hey, is anyone else thinking that Strong Bad is making a portmanteau of "leotard" and "retarded" to insult his brother?[[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

:You're definitely right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::No, he's not. It's open to interpretation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Oh I sooo called this. Phlip, you were there, remember? No, "leotarded" is an actual word. If it was supposed to be a portmanteau, it would have been something more clever. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 12:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Yeah, but does that neccesarily mean it can't be a portmanteau too? I mean, "entrangled" is an actual word, but What I Want says it's a portmanteau. Plus it's a funny idea.
:::::I suggest you get your money back on that dictionary, as "entrangled" is not an English word. That leaves your argument that "it's a funny idea" which should never be a major consideration when considering a notable fact here. We are not here to be funny unless it works out that we can be while we are doing what we are here to do: document the work of TBC. "Entrangled" is simply not found anyplace except as a portmanteau in their work. "Leotarded" is not only a legitimate word, but the possible portmanteau is particularly insensitive, one I doubt TBC would use. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think you're thinking of 'entangled'. Like Qermaq says, 'entrangled' isn't a word. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

''entrangled'': '''adverb''' - in a state of entrang.

''entrang'': '''noun''' - I dunno, I think strongbad just made it up.
:It's simply [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entrangled not a word]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Is a similarity a reference??==

Apparently someone thinks strong bad's COOLogy is similar to some ask a ninja thing about pre-recording your final words. I've never seen AaN (so I could be mistaken), but your final words and your eulogy are not the same thing. Also, more importantly, this section is for REFERENCES, not similarities. Unless there's some particular characteristic that makes you think TBC have seen the AaN in question and were intentionally making a reference to it, this should be removed.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 13:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:Many people have precorded last words. It's likely not a reference to anything (i it were, it'd be TTATOT) so I agree. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree as well. Should it be STUFF'd, do you think? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 23:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say STUFF it, but I don't exactly know how to initiate that...([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 16:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC))
::::[[HRWiki:STUFF/Newpage]] has a step by step walkthrough of how to STUFF. By the way, I personally don't think it's a reference of any type, I just think it's Strong Bad being Strong Bad: creating cool, complex ways for simple, boring things. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I followed the walkthrough and started a STUFF page for it. I think I got it right, but this is my first time...[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 18:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

== Wrong note in Chopin... ==

While Strong Bad has never been renowned for singing in tune, I transcribed his singing into these notes:

C---C---C-C---Eb---D-D---C-C---A-C

Well, I wouldn't expect the Brothers Chaps to know the exact key of the original march, but the notes from the main theme were originally: [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Sonata_No.2_%28Chopin%2C_Frederic%29]

Bb---Bb---Bb-Bb---Db---C-C---Bb-Bb---Bb-Bb

As you can see, the second last interval is changed from a unison (tonic to tonic) to a minor third (submediant to tonic). I suppose it's forgivable, considering that a lot of the cartoon and pop culture references to Chopin's funeral march actually change the second last note to a leading tone (the note right below the tonic), but Strong Bad skips yet another tone down. Anyway, that's my music rant for the day.

~Stapler

:Cool, thanks for the analysis! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pine-a for me-a ==

"Pining" is a reference to [[trevor the vampire]], is it not? I noticed that this was a trivia fact in Trogdor when Strong Bad says "I pine for you!"
: It's just a word. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
: PS. The reason it's mentioned for Trogdor is due to the ''way'' he says it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It has been a while since he's used that phrase, and the way it's said seems to suggest a deliberate reference to his older incarnations. Among other things, the "pine-uh for me-uh" is a somewhat exaggerated way of using his old pseudo-Mexican accent ("I like-a to say, 'Holy crap!'"). Think that's got any merit to it? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taxidoimied... Bugs Bunny reference? ==

When Strong Bad says "taxidoimied," I believe it is a reference to Bugs Bunny, who would quite often mispronounce words the same way by pronouncing the "er" in words as "oi" instead. And I can think of no other place he could've gotten that from. Anyone agree? -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 07:17 PM, March 16, 2007 (EST)
:It could be, but I'm tempted to say no. If it's used in places other than Bugs Bunny (and references of it), then probably not. If you can't find anything, it could be, but I'd wait for more responses. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 23:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Where did Mel Blanc get that manner of speech? It's a Brooklyn accent. People in Brooklyn talk like that to this day. This is definitely not a direct reference to Bugs, as that would be TTATOT. It's just a funny pronunciation based on a well-known accent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Absolutely. That accent existed long before Bugs was around. FWIW, Blanc claimed that he combined Brooklyn and Bronx accents to create the rabbit's voice. --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Absoloitly. Not a reference at oil! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Character Variation/Zombie Bad ==

With the character variation article, there's only the one form of strong bad zombie. I think there should be a second entry to cover the 2046 equivalent. [[User:220.245.178.139|220.245.178.139]] 05:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

:Well, the 2046 version of Strong Bad doesn't look any different than normal Strong Bad, other than that he's wearing tattered jeans, has a brain hat on, and is spitting out grape jelly. I'm pretty sure he's still alive there. So.. I don't really think he needs another entry. But.. that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::Of course he's still alive, he says that he hopes the zombies will still let him join their side. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, it's not a variation. It's a costume and should be listed in [[Strong Bad Other Costumes]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Of course he was alive. His eyes were alive. At the two funerals in the emails, his eyes died and lost their greenness when he died. I'm positive they weren't closed because they still have their gradient and he can see with them. I think that might not even be 2046, just staged. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== 5 boom boxes, 1 tape ==

I can't believe no one else has mentioned this yet, but whats the deal with the 5 boom boxes apparently all playing in PERFECT synchronization. and secondly. that coach z breaks into all of them at the exact same time. That essentially means that he wouldve had to record over the original tape before strong bad made copies of it. Thirdly. only 1 of the 5 boomboxes lets u see the tape. Most if not all tape players let u see the tape, so u can tell if its going or not --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 06:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it be a more simple explanation that he's got all 5 wired together to play off of one of the tape decks off one tape? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::Assuming that those old-style boomboxes could even do such a thing - they werent exactly filled with ports and holes for cross-wiring - they all have the play button pushed down, or are saying "playin'" or something...
:::I have an old boom box from 1982 or so that has two sets each, in and out, of RCA jacks. It certainly wasn't top of the line, either. I used it as speakers for my first CD player, and I had to have Play mashed down for the audio to pass through. --Septyn, 18Mar07
:they all have a pause button though... suspension of disbelief!! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::The wires are behind the boomboxes. Believe me, I checked. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::When you're talking about how the boomboxes are set up, how they were taped over, how they're in sync, etc... Just remember, one of the boomboxes is a ''cardboard box with stuff drawn on it''. Then keep the rest in perspective. Seriously. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Hair? ==

Is that pubic hair on the belly of the guy standing next to the Coughin' with the duck shirt?
:No, I'm sure it's intended to be belly hair — TBC work very hard to keep their toons PG. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::[[Wikipedia:Abdominal hair]] {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to be more scared by, the fact that that page exists, or that you found it and linked it, but its definitely belly hair [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 21:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Echo ==

How can you have an echo in an open field if there is nothing to reflect your voice off of? --18:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You're in the wrong talk page. You want Drive-Thru. And I don't know why. --[[User:Homestar3.14|Homestar3.14]] 18:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taranchula ==

Shouldn't it be mentioned that Taranchula is a direct reference back to [[death metal]]? I mean, that's where they first appeared.
Ya know... when he started saying how he was going to do something different from Chopin, I thought for sure he was going to say Limozeen...
-Zero.exe
:Eh, it kinda goes without saying. And besides, this isn't even the first email that Taranchula has been mentioned in. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 12:35 AM, 24 March 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, actually, Taranchula was mentioned first in the same e-mail Limozeen was. Then again in the montage one (only breifly, their name was seen on a record). --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Mind Your P's and ... P's. ===
{{stufffact|Since P is the 16th letter in the English alphabet, it makes sense for pizza places to be in chapter 16 of the phone book.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)|23:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|18|0|your funeral}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== A Ninja Reference's Last Words?? ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad recording his own Eulogy is similar to an episode of the popular podcast series, Ask a Ninja, in the episode "Last Words", because he asks people to pre-record their final words.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)|05:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|18|0|your funeral}}

== Off the chain/charts. ==

Now that we know what off the hook, off the grid, and off the wagon mean, we should probably show what being off the chain and off the charts mean, right? I mean I noticed that Off the Chain happens to be some band's album. Same thing with Off the Charts. Go to wikipedia and you'll know what I mean. Are they worth being put in the Real-World References section or not?
-[[User: Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]]
:"Off the charts" is a generic phrase meaning something along the lines of "these readings are so high, our instruments cannot measure them". A thermometer that only went to 100 degrees trying to record a 150-degree temperature would read the temperature as "off the charts". Essentially, it's "higher than you can measure". No idea what "off the chain" means, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== 2046 Strong Sad reference? ==

I just noticed a remarkable similarity between the 2046 version of Strong Sad, and his easter-egg action figure in [[action_figure|sbemail 42]]. Does anyone else think this is noteworthy? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm, on second look, maybe the similarity is just in his arms. Meh. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd say it's just the muscular arms. Similar, but not necessarily a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== The End of the... what the heck? ==

Since my {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466929&oldid=465536 reference}} has created much confusion/edit {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466965&oldid=466958 reversal}}, I will post a better explanation here to start/continue the discussion (I'd rather do this before trying to STUFF anything):

The "reference":
:''The phrases "locusts and famine" and "doomsday device" are references to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].''

First, this is how the conversation transpired (note that once "conversations" start in the edit history, it's best to move them to a talk page):
* Stux (Talk | contribs) (→Real-World References - ref to armageddon (so is the zombie uprising in a way, should that be included?), please rephrase as necessary)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (i doubt that, these phrases are too common)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The phrases came from Armageddon originally, didn't they?)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (nope. locusts and famine are mentioned in the bible, doomsday devices appear in a lot of sci-fi)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The biblical Armegaddon? I just want to be sure we're talking about the same thing.)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (undid revision 466958 by Shwoo (Talk) no)

With more careful though, I realized that these are essentially two separate (but related) references:
*The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction.

To be clear, like Shwoo said I was referring to the biblical Armageddon (per the link provided), not the movie. I thought there were several "end of the world" themes that were left out of the discussion. This also includes the mention of "zombie attacks". Most modern zombie movies portray zombies as an infectious being that can turn the entire world into zombies, thus bringing another "doomsday" scenario. I would like to suggest that these three "doomsday" references be combined into one section with three subsections describing each topic. One last thing: the phrase "locusts and famine" does in fact come from the bible: they're two of the disasters mentioned in the book of revelation. What say ye all? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think that there's enough of a connection to warrant a reference. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree. Similar references have been found in other movies and shows. Anywho, I wanted to present a variation of what I thought the fact could look like:
----
*This email makes a few references to the end of the world:
**The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction capable of detroying all life on earth.
----
::Of course I can't think of anything for zombies, as that is a bit more general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think there's that much of a connection for the "locusts and famine" thing. They're both common doomsday scenarios. As for the "doomsday device," that is WAY too general and a little too self-explanatory to be worthy of a reference, in my opinion. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}}

== Zombie Fact ==

Did you know that the zombie effect in Michael Jackson's music video "Thriller", is achieved by the use of grape jelly? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_%28music_video%29#Trivia [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, it's already in the article, ignore me. [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

:Okay! {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 20:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gray eyes? ==

*Both when dead and as a zombie (at the funeral), Stong Bad's eyes look as they did back in the early Tandy emails, just blackish-grey.

Okay, so when I first saw this, my immediate response was, "Wait, Strong Bad's eyes never looked like that." Just to be certain, I went all the way back to [[some kinda robot]] and, sure enough, his eyes were green. Unless all the Tandy emails were edited later so he had green eyes (and I'm not sure why they would have ever been grey in the Tandy emails, seeing as how his eyes were even green in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]), this fact is... well, what's the phrase I'm looking for... not true. Unless there's something I don't know (and if there is, somebody please fill me in), I'm removing this fact pending further discussion. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

:I think it means: They have the ''style'' of the Tandymails (without the 2 little circles in the corner of his eyes), but instead of green they're blackish-gray. --[[User:AlmsforthePudgy|AlmsforthePudgy]] 14:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wow. That really needs a rewording. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wait, no, I take it back... it doesn't really seem noteworthy. If they're not the same color, what's the point in drawing the comparison? {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's Room? ==

The Purple Room in the Easter Egg could be 2046 Strong Sad's Room
:Is it? Last time I read, it was a warehouse.---{{User:Record307/sig}} 00:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::"Could be" means speculation. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:04, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:your funeral

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:29:24 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Suplexing the Couger */

== 2:03 ==

I think that when Strong Bad mentions that the zombies will come at 2:03 it is a reference to Strong Sad's Lament when he says that Tuesdays at 2:03 is his favorite time.
:- It's possible, but it's a bit of a stretch. Especially since March 31, 2047 falls on a Saturday. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::But the easter egg takes place in ''2046''. In which case March 31 is a Sunday. Either way, it's not Tuesday. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Sad likes Tuesdays at 3:02, not 2:03. [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 02:35, 16 March 2007

== Homestar and Marzipan ==

I'm not sure if it belongs on the wiki, but is it possible that Homestar and Marzipan live with each other? The front of Marzipan's house looks the same, and Homestar's broken Cow lamp may be a different room besides the front. should this be on their relationship page?

:I don't think so. Marzipan's house is blue, as seen in 2003 Halloween toon [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and Homestar is trick or treating at this house. Though Homestar is kinda funny and doesn't think somethings through most of the time, I don't think he would trick or treat at his own home. Homestar's house is gray as seen in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However it could be that this ''is'' the same house and is only colored based on the season (blue because it's night and grey because of the cold snow). [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 16:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::If you look on the pages for [[Homestar's House]] and [[Marzipan's House]], the interior rooms look different, meaning they can't live together. On the other hand, that makes me wonder why he said, "Marzipan, I'm home!" when he doesn't actually live there. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Huh. Maybe that was just Homestar being Homestar and confirming things he doesn't even know about. Kind of like the whole "It's time for tasteball!", "Oh, crap. Tasteball already." bit. 18:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:This scene is Strong Bad's future speculation (after all, he's dead at this point). It's possible that Homestar and Marzipan could be cohabitating at this future time, no? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:In the commentary for [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], TBC said that they didn't want anyone thinking that Homestar and Marzipan live together (or something to that effect). [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Can I help?==
can I help with trying to find some glitches? -[[User:TheDenzel|The Denzel]] 01:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Do whatever you want to help. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== the email is down right now. ==

This probably means it will soon be updated in a way that will be of interest for the 'glitch/trivia' section.[[User:168.156.44.101|168.156.44.101]] 02:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:...uh, no. It's not. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:(if you are getting a 404'd from it, hold down the shift key and hit the reload button) {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 02:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It perhaps wasn't gone for long, I reloaded it SEVERAL during a few minutes when it wouldn't seem to appear.[[User:24.22.145.14|24.22.145.14]] 05:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::This is unremarkable, it happens all the time. It's on your end. You need to clear your cache or force a reload using the aforementioned trick. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Homestar lip dot?==
When Homestar is reading from the phone book, one of the mouth frames has a black dot on it, and shows up whenever that particular frame is up. — [[User:69.105.202.40|69.105.202.40]] ([[User talk:69.105.202.40|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.105.202.40|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

- Check please. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I checked the email. The dot is very small and faint, but it does trully exist. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::frame 2031, it is an error with his eye. when he closes his eyes, one of them does not get fully erased. {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::If it is not noticeable to the viewer except by manipulation, it's not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Too far? ==

O_O Too... i dunno. Definitely not for kids. More PG-13 rated.

[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Uh... Why? Because there's corpses? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 02:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It's all pretty cartoony, expecially how Strong Bad continues to fail staying dead. Strong Bad waking up with an exposed ribcage creeped me out a little, but I wouldn't say the email went too far. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I think they were in danger of going too far, given the rather morbid question, but I have to say they handled it quite nicely. I mean, Homestar reading from the phone book at a eulogy? Genius! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::: Got it! [[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Getting a bit forumy here. Let's keep this page about the content. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:No one ever made the claim that Homestar Runner was a cartoon for children. (In fact, in the email "For kids," Strong Bad is quite opposed to the idea, heh.) I didn't see you complaining when one of the members of Blue Laser got a fork jammed in his eye. Stop taking it so seriously. [[User:0rion|0rion]]
::[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=10241 Read this thread]. I don't know if the person who started this section complained about it, but some people have. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Ummm, I don't know why, but this e-mail creeped me out too. Everybody! is right. I know, I know, I'm weird... Also, my friend was talking to me about this website, and she said it was a family website. 0.o I dunno.--[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 21:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Please do not add to this forum-style topic. This talk page is for discussing article content only.'''
::I think itsa little creepy, i dont get creeped out like that, but its definatly not in the category of PG-13. I think it should not be seen for girls under the age of 7, and boys under the age of 4. LOL! [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:20, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Egg - future SB ==

Are you sure he's a zombie in the egg? When he came out of the jar as a zombie he had black eyes and a visible rib. In the egg it looks like he's just stuck somethng to his head, put on some tattered jeans and is spitting out a mouthful of grape jelly. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. I think he's still alive there.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Which would agree with what he said at the end of the email. How he hoped the zombies would let him be on their side, even though he was alive. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:While I see where you all are coming from, in my opinion, SB acts more like a zombie in the easter egg than in the e-mail. That is, in the e-mail proper, he has complete and full consciousness, while such presumably cannot be said for egg SB. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, he ''acts'' like a zombie, anyone can spit out jelly while saying "Blarg". - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]]
:::I don't exactly follow. It's true that ''anyone'' can spit out jelly and say, "Blarg." My point is that it would be unthinkable, or at least improbable, that a zombie would speak coherently and recognize people, as Strong Bad does when he breaks out of the jar. I was merely pointing out that easter egg SB seems more zombie-esque (by merit of being less human-esque) than he does in the e-mail itself. It also seems likely that he's just pretending to be a zombie, as this is hinted at in the end of the e-mail. So, in my opinion, he's not really a zombie in either scenario. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 19:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::It's kinda hard to just be ''pretending'' your a zombie when your skin is tattered and rotting and your ribcage is exposed. I see your point, and it's valid, but it still doesn't justify why he'd still be alive when he breaks out of the jar. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 7:04 PM, March 18, 2007 (EST)

== References in future characters? ==

Do you think Future Pom Pom and Future Strong Sad are references in themselves? Future Pom Pom looks a lot like Duke Nukem... — [[User:68.44.220.232|68.44.220.232]] ([[User talk:68.44.220.232|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.44.220.232|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])
:By their faces, beards, cigars, and ammo belts, I am willing to wager that it is a reference to the Contra series of video games and the 2 main chracters from the original game in that series. See the picture located [http://www.racketboy.com/retro/contra-arcade.jpg here] for confirmation purposes.~[[User:DanZero|DanZero]] 06:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Interesting — I wonder if there's a closer reference though, only because Contra doesn't have anything like zombies in it. Or maybe it's just a general reference to that style of gritty '80s action hero... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Sure does seem to look a lot like contra... hard to piece together why they'd use that tho. other than the fact that it was like the best game ever --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 07:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I just thought they were the archetype of futuristic survivors. I didn't see a particular reference, it's endemic to the genre. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::I thought Strong Sad was a bit reminiscent of Snake Plissken from the film "Escape From New York", but it might just be me. [[User:Klarsh|Klarsh]] 16:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Not sure how relevant it is, but am I alone in thinking there are similarities between future Strong Sad and the Strong Sad action figure? -Xerzes, who hasn't done this enough to remember how to make the sig and timestamp happen.

::My first impression was that Pom Pom looked like Cable from the X-Men animated series but it's been a while since I've seen that. An X-Men connection could explain the Doomsday device though, which was created to kill all the mutants (or in this case, zombies). Then again, post-apocalyptic scenarios with cigars and doomsday devices are pretty common! [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 12:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:::It's probably just TTATOT, seeing how many references we've been able to come up with. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

== screaming yellow ==

Is there any evidence that this is really a reference to the candy, and not say, to the car? Either seems pretty much arbitrary to me. Perhaps the candy is a bit more in "TBC style" as far as references go (so retro). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: But TBC didn't make the reference... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::yes, of course, since this is in the body of the email received, it should be assumed that TBC are refering to nothing at all, and it's simply word for word the email they received. At any rate, it feels like speculation to me. Though, there are only 2 or 3 things in the popular lexicon that I can imagine the author of the email intended. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it was a faulty reference to Dripping Yellow Madness. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 05:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Although I have no problems in keeping the reference out (since any reference made by a fan is borderline as it is), I don't think it's a matter of [[TTATOT]]. I'm almost certain that it's a reference to Screamin' Yellow Zonkers. If this gets taken to a vote, I'll green light it, but as of right now, I have no problems with it being left out. - [[User:0rion|0rion]]
Removed as speculation, we have no idea what the author intended and there is more than one
possiblity {{User:Bryanc/sig}}:
<blockquote>*'Screaming Yellow Strong Bad' is presumably a reference to the snack food [[Wikipedia:Screaming Yellow Zonkers|Screaming Yellow Zonkers]].</blockquote>
Ideas in the email itself are not TBC created, and as such are not notable references in nearly all cases. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: I think they should have continued the joke...I mean, Screaming Yellow Zonkers? Screaming Yellow Zombie? I'm not sayings it's comedic gold,like commas, but it's definitely the same style humor as this website. ~ Shadix

In my mind, I thought it was a reference to [[Unseen Characters|Dripping Yellow Madness]] from [[Cool Things]], but since it was part of the e-mail rather than something that's within the toon inself, I didn't bother mentioning anything. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 15:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Vocal Effect ==

What effect did they put on Strong bads Voice when he was "zombiefied" its Awesome, and being the Avant-Garde Musician, it would help a lot (music wise). Thanks.

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i think it's an allusion to what happens to the character "jordy" (played by stephen king) in the movie creepshow. the undead jordy sounds just like the undead strong bad.

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Awesome, ill read up on that. now i need to find out how to replicate it ^^

FWIW, it's used in the movie "Creepshow" AGAIN as the vocal effect on the dead father in "Father's Day"...

: Months late and dollars short, but it's a question worth answering in case the asker ever looks again. You can probably achieve this effect or something very similar to it with extreme settings on a [[Wikipedia:Flanging|flanger]]. Sounds like a modulation frequency of at least 15 Hz and probably zero feedback, but I can't guess at the modulation depth or wet/dry mix without experimentation. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Passion Reference?? ==

Am I the only one who sees a ridiculous amount of Passion of the Christ references? Strong Sad carrying the jar like the cross while being whipped, Strong Bad's exposed ribcage, references to the repeatedly changed day of prophecy that the souls of the dead will come back as zombies and attack the living? Am I crazy or just the only one morbid enough to see it?
*You're crazy and unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: Ah, very good then. Thought: Baleeted.
::And you're still unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The first two I could kind of understand, though I would call them more coincidental. The last one makes no sense: when in Mel Gibson's film did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed day of a prophecy that souls of the dead will come back and attack the living? [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:Never seen the movie, but when in ''this email'' did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed date that souls of the dead would come back? Strong Bad didn't change the date of the zombie revolution; he just got more and more specific as to the time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Does the whipping thing reference ''anything''? it seems like it should... --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:No, it's just a poke at slavery. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 18:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== 2046? 20X6? ==

Could this be a reference? I know it means that 2046 is NOT 20X6 (as the characters look completely different from their 20X6 forms) but could the similarity of the years be a reference? You know, a nudge from TBC, baiting us, telling us "Hey, here's one that it's NOT, good luck figuring out which one it IS." [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think that 20X6 is actually one year, or else last year would also be 20X6. When Sam (from Concord, California) who asked the e-mail in [[time capsule]] said it would be opened in X0 years, I think Strong Bad took X0 as an actual way to calculate time in years. {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::That does not directly address the question I brought up in any way. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the year "2046" often used in some comicbooks to depict a future alternate reality? I know there's a movie called [[Wikipedia:2046 (film)|2046]], but I don't recall zombies in that. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 14:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I think you're talking about 2099. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
:Well, I know I looked on the back of a really old Metroid game box in a computer store and it said "In the year 20X5..." -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 22:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, you guys. Have a look at the intro paragraph of [[20X6]] ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fourth wall Break? ==

Marzipan just leaned over the edge of the left side of the frame. Is this a fourth wall break? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:You're joking right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 13:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Don't be mean. Now, I can see what you're trying to say. If she physically manipulated the frame (which we wouldn't be able to see anyway), THEN it would be a fourth wall break. As far as we're concerned, it's like someone leaning away from they're cooking to talk to their relative, or something. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 14:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh thanks for your help Bryanc. B-( {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 19:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I did not mean to be rude, I'm very sorry I came across that way. But this is not close to what a break in the theatrical 4th wall means. A "fourth wall" break is when the actors acknowledge that they are actors. It was to be somewhat jarring, like out of nowhere Strong Sad looks into the camera and says "Hello!". That is breaking 4th wall. It's toyed with a lot and the lines are blurred here. Which makes it a little difficult to say what and what.
{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

==Addendum==

An addendum is "something added or to be added, especially a supplement to a book". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's nice to know. go ahead and put it under the "Explanations" sectionor the remarks section. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno — do we usually list definitions of words under Explanations, unless it has something to do with the context of the toon? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Breaking References??==
I'm against listing "So Cold" by Breaking Benjamin as a reference for the funeral procession. I just watched the video again on Youtube, and there's nothing there to link it as a reference, beyond the fact that they're both funeral processions, which is far from unique. At the very least, I think the wording should be changed, "oddly reminiscent" is too vague and seems to me to be an admission that it's not really a reference. Either re-word it into a definite, specific reference or get rid of it completely. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's a reference either. I say, go ahead and remove it, and if anyone thinks it should stay they can STUFF it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Bibendum image ==

The Bibendum easter egg isn't just a Michelin reference, it's a direct reference to [http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Le-Pneu-Michelin-Nunc-Est-Bibendum-Giclee-Print-C12046037.jpeg this classic ad]. According to [[Wikipedia:Michelin#Bibendum|Wikipedia]], which provides a translation of the ad's text, the name of the mascot (which is Latin for "to drink") originated with this ad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 19:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, good find — you're right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Good job. you can go ahead and put that on the page WITH the picture.
:Waaait a second there, man. "bibendum" is a gerund, so it just means "drinking" (in its use as a noun, not a verb or adjective, e.g. "Drinking is fun").
::The image is clearly a reference to the ad, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Newlydead ==
When Strong Bad said 'newlydead', do you think he was making a play on 'newlywed'? I know it doesn't really fit the context, but just by the way it sounds...maybe not....--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I'd say that's probably where he derived the word. Typical Strong Bad coinage, I'd say. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Count me in too. An easy pun Strong Bad would say. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. Very yes. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 21:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Chaup au Fan? ==

What is a "Chaup au Fan"? If anyone knows, this should be added to Explanations. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:It sounds like very poor and broken French. Literally, I think it would be "[Nonexistent word] to the fan[as in, a Homestar fan, not a fan which would move air]." Perhaps by « Chaup » they were trying to make "Chap" sound more French? Thus, the image was created by the Chaps for a fan? Chaup could be a French word, I'm not certain (I'm only in fifth-year French), but it's not one I've ever heard, nor can I find it in my dictionary. Oh, and by the way, the pronunciation (following the IPA standards) would probably be something like: ʃop o fɑ̃ [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

::While I appreciate the linguistic exploration (I do love those), I'm assuming it must actually mean something. It's unlike TBC to include something like this which is made up out of whole cloth. There's gotta be a meaning to this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:::True; "From the Chaps, for a fan" would be my best guess at the actual meaning, but who knows. Again, maybe they just wanted to make it look French, Michelin being a French company. I'll look into the issue further.[[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:I may be completely crazy, but it seems to me to be similar to the way Strong Sad produces "Chaparone" in senior prom. Anyone? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's just Strong Sad's (quite good) French accent that makes them sound similiar. And I favor an explantion of what this term means by someone who knows as I've been able to find nothing about it. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::: It's pretty much just nonsense. There's a "translation" up there ^ a few lines, but it's just telling you that what Strong Sad's saying doesn't make sense. I've taken four years of French and I can tell you thatit's garbage. Pure garbage, sister. Also, I feel that SS's accent leaves much to be desired... he overdoes it on many an occasion. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Apparently at this point we're confident that "Chaup au Fan" is simply gibberish. While saying that, and noting the relation to dance terms as the context of the toon supports, are notable, the speculative meanings are just that, and as such I will remove them from the article and note them in this thread.

:*The way it's initially said by Strong Bad and Strong Sad sounds like a mispronunciation of "coq au vin," which is chicken in wine sauce, a popular French dish. It might also be an intentional misspelling (to seem even more French) of the term "chapeau fan," which would literally translate as a "fan hat" (e.g. a baseball cap pertaining to a favorite team).

::::{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Put him in a jar? ==

I don't hear "put him in a jar," but rather "brother in a jar." Anyone else? -just a random newb

Actually, I thought it sounded like "funeral in a jar" [[User:63.165.156.213|63.165.156.213]] 23:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

not enough syllables. speaking of, when they say it the third time, and also in the easter egg, they run the words together, so it's more like "puteminajar". does anyone else think this should be indicated in the transcript? [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:I definitely heard brother on a second viewing. Also, it could be "fun'ral," so syllables aren't an issue. Could we maybe get a vote? I cast my vote... '''BROTHER'''-wards! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:It doesn't sound like "brother" to me. There's no r sound. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 06:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I definitely heard "put him" (I was the transcriber.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I hear "brother in a jar". -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 01:45, 16 March 2007 (CST)
::::I also definitely hear "put him".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::While I'm not sure exactly what it says, I am pretty certain that I hear neither "brother in a jar" nor "put him in a jar." I've listened to it over and over again, and instead of "in," it sounds like it's saying "for," though I have not been able to come up with a wording for the sentence in which that would make sense. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 03:11, 16 March 2007 (EST)
:I watched it three times this week and heard "Brother in a jar." I also thought "fall back" was "Pom Bag" and that it was supposed to be 2046 Pom Pom's name. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::I hear "Put him in a jar" [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 17:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::My best guess is "Pull him from the jar". I definitely hear it starting with "P" sound, and I'm pretty sure about the "f" sound ("from" or maybe "for") and "the jar" instead of "a jar". Maybe the second word is "it" instead of "him". But maybe we'd better just wait til they release it as a quote. I hope they do! -another random newb, 22:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, your guess sounds a lot closer.

Should we add a footnote to the transcript? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:We don't usually do that when we're unsure.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::I found similar footnotes in [[boring (really)]] and [[candy product]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The footnote is useful when there is no consensus, or equal consensus for different options. In this case I don't really know if there us consesnus, but I'm personally happy to allow the footnote to remain as proposed while discussion ensues. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I watched it several times, and I always heard "put him in a jar". Well, more like "puteminajar", as Neumannz said. It also makes more sense. I can't see "brother in a jar" being relevant, and about "funeral in a jar", the funeral isn't in the jar. It's in.. wherever the funeral is. But that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

:I hear "put him in a jar" too, which makes the most sense, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I can only hear "put him in a jar". ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 23:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC))

Well, now that the Quote of the Week says "brother" instead of "put him", I may suggest every single change to the transcript and subtitles once again. Man, same issue with Marzipan's word booty. Anyway, I'm only visiting, and then I'm leaving again. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, that goes without saying. We don't really need to be reminded to make those changes. (He's talking about [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-22|this quote]], by the way.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yay, I got it! And some others, but not the majority, got it too! [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
:High fives all around! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 03:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yay! -just the random newb who started all of this
:::The QotW says "brother in a jar", but I hear "put him in a jar". Ignore the "User:". [[User:Neox]]

== Coach Z 1234 Beat ==

The beat in Strong Bad's funeral kind of sounds like the #1 hit: [[These Peoples Try To Fade Me]] -{{User:Viklas/sig}}

:Sounded more like Another One Bites The Dust to me... [[User:74.119.23.212|74.119.23.212]] 00:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:TTAOT, it sounded like a generic rap to me. Which could sound like a lot of raps. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== World War Z ==

This is really just idle speculation, but has anyone hear ever read World War Z? It's a story about what would happen if Zombies really did attack humanity within the next 30-40 years. I'm pretty sure that TBC hasn't even heard of the book, but still, I feel like this deserves a minor refrence due to the similarities, like here, on the talk page. Also, could Screaming Yellow be a reference to Kyle the Yellow Dart Smith? Again, idle speculation
:Actually, I was more apt to believe the zombie references in this email have to do with the horror/sci-fi genre of video games and movies, like Resident Evil and the like. But that's already starting down the TTATOT path. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::'''NEVER''' use my name in vain. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:There's also a book called ''The Zombie Survival Guide'', and probably countless others in the same strain. You could never have a reference, it's just TTATOT. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::How coincidental. I was reading both those books just today. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::It was probably a reference to "Dripping Yellow Madness." [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think the zombie uprising was a reference to anything in particular, because that's been used in a lot of different stories/movies/whatever. And I'm really not sure what Screaming Yellow was a reference to, but since it was from the fan, they could be just writing random words or something to make it sound funny. Who knows?
::::Also, what's TTATOT mean? {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 21:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::See [[TTATOT]]: "'This That And The Other Thing.' Applicable when a reference in a toon could refer to one of many similar things. The rule of thumb is that if it could apply to several things, it probably refers to nothing in particular."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== Same? ==

Is Strong Sad really saying the same thing that his Bibendum advert has written out? It sounds more like he's saying chapon fond, chape en front, chape en fan, or even chapeau fort, more than Chaup au fan. Unless he just has horrible French pronunciation. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:There's no copy in that ad which would be reasonably mispronounced by a moderately-educated person as "Chap au fan" - and this is TBC we're talking about. This is clearly something but what? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:Just a wild shot in the dark, but we are talking about the Chap brothers' website, right?

:I'm pretty sure he is indeed saying the same thing as the text in the ad, but there might be an off chance it's "something enfant". Perhaps "Chaps enfant" meaning that Strong Bad is a (brain)child of the Brothers Chaps. It's a bit of a stretch, and I think in proper French the "s" at the end of "Chaps" would be pronounced at the beginning of "enfant" anyway. Just a thought. - {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:Strong Sad's pronuciation in French is, whenever he's done it before, quite good. It would be out of character if he were screwing this up. Any dancers out there? I really would like to know what Monsieur Sad is referring to. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a ballroom dancer. I think what Strong Sad is saying is "chassé font" (pronounced more or less like what Strong Sad said, like "schahs auh faunt") which is a move we use in ballroom to mean a long step forward, followed by sliding the other foot to neutral position again. In other words, extend the first (usually right) leg like a lady's lunge in tango, then slide the other foot back, the foot ending sideways. Does that make sense? The only problem I see is that isn't really a flashy move, so why would SS want to show it off? [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

::Is that how it's pronounced in ballroom dancing terms? Because in French, it would be pronounced more like "shahs say fon(with a nasal 't' suggested at the end)." [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::I don't speak a word of French, so I'm probably entirely inaccurate in the pronunciation. My ballroom teacher is from Wisconsin, so that probably influences the accent a bit ;) [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]
:::I think you mean a nasal "n" sound. The t is silent. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::That's why I said it was suggested at the end; the nasalization of the "n" suggests a "t" afterwards. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::::Oh. That's kinda weird, but okay, I guess. Really, though, the nasal n could suggest other letters, so I would have just said that, but hey, whatever floats your boat. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 13:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::One thing I also thought of, silly as it may be: this may also link to SB's comment about a "chappy thong." Reason being is if you aren't used to moving correctly, certain garments like to wedge themselves in uncomfortable places. [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

== Phone Book ==

Anyone else notice that this is the second email in a row to refer to a phone book? The last has Homestar mentioning that the "real money is in" phone books, and this one has has the reading from the "book of phone." Is this, perhaps, setting itself up as another running gag? Or, more interestingly, might it somehow be tied into the recent DNA references? --left unsigned

:Hm -- I think it's a coincidence. Much like the [[Talk:unnatural#Chocolate cake again! I said chocolate cake again!|chocolate cake]] reference in [[unnatural]], there's nothing else that ties it to the previous appearance... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:We'll see if it comes up again next email [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

::Yeah, probably just a coincidence. But I still think the chocolate cake thing was anything but coincidental.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 11:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Mycology and Leonard part 6 ==

the tape in the boOOMmbox says my c00logy, which is much like mycology, the study of fungi. fungi eat dead people. fungi probably are eating dead strong bad.<s> fun fact?</s> notable? prolly. also, the reference to leotards being part of a weapon is reminescent of Leonard part 6. {{User:Csours/sig}} 17:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's notable. He's just emphasizing how COOL his eulogy is. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 17:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed. (And it probably needs adding to [[Portmanteaus]]. I'll go do that now...) {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::: <strike>Just another thought- should it go in [[Internet Slang]] too? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)</strike>
::::...actually, now that I look at it, it's COOLogy rather than c00logy, so discount that.{{User:Kahteh/sig}} 22:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's notable to point out that this webpage may be the only webpage in existence that refers to both The Passion and Leonard Part 6
:::::[http://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=3fc&q=%22Passion%20of%20the%20Christ%22%20%22Leonard%20Part%206%22&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=iw That's simply not true.] --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fixed it? ==

I re-watched the e-mail again, and it looks like that when he says "funeral's" he actually types funeral's now.

== "Marizipan i'm home!" ==

I can't think what, but I'm sure this is a parody on something, there was a TV show where sombody said "*Someone* I'm home!" in very similar mannor... [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 21:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:It's basically a cliche by now... It was done a lot in those '50s shows. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe "Lucy, I'm home!"? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 22:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:It was such a cliche on black and white tv shows that there was a truly terrible television show, a parody (though really stretching the definition of the word) made for Nick at Nite in the late early '90's named after it. (I can't believe that they actually made a wiki article about it, but yeah, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi_Honey%2C_I%27m_Home "Hi Honey I'm Home."] People have explained the cliche as that it was a followup from the mentality of radio. On a radio show, a character can't just open a door and begin the conversation, because the audience can't see it. They have to open the door and say "hello, I'm home," often with the other characters saying "Why, look, it's XXX." --XXX

That's probly it then. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Suplexing the Couger ==

The Odd thing about that is that I know of no suplex in which the head is downward facing.

All Suplexes I know, involve the heads of both te suplexer and the suplxee to be near to each other when the move is being done.

What stuffed-Strong Bad looks like he's doing is either a piledriver or perhaps a Powerbomb.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 01:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

: Take it from a long-time wrestling fan: what he's doing is indeed a suplex. German suplexes are done differently (with the head right-side up), but that's not what he's doing. Here's how it's done: with the person standing in front of you and facing you, bend them over and put their head under your arm. Grab the waist of their pants with the other arm and lift the person up over your head (they'll be upside down), then pretty much just fall back, making sure to cause as much impact between the other person's back and the ground as possible. This is what stuffed Strong Bad appears to be doing in his pose -- just starting to fall backwards. It's okay if the opponent's head is down by your side instead of by your own head; it's still a suplex. His back will just hit more on your shoulder than the ground. (Sorry if I didn't use proper terminology in this explanation.) -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 06:42, 16 March 2007 (EST)
::In the Kirby type- videogames, he has a move called Suplex, and most of you probably know that. He does a suplex but instead of falling back he grabs them by the neck withouht flipping them back, jumps in the air,and slams the enemy in the ground, then it dies. If anyone wants a look, buy the game or look up Kirby Suplex in Youtube. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:29, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Jar Meniscus ==

Hey, should that be a Fun Fact or something? When Strong Sad is carrying Strong Bad (on the Taranchula scene) the meniscus in the water is still angled to the angle of the jar, rather than horizontal like it should. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 01:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:hey thanks, now I know what the word "meniscus" means. But I still don't see what you are talking about here. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:: The water is defying gravity, essentially. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::Ok, I see it now. The liquid should be level with the horizon to obey the laws of physics. I still dunno about "meniscus", that is the salt water tears of many heartbroken private school girls. Supposedly. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::'Meniscus' is just the scientific term for the top of the liquid, rather than what the liquid is. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Wouldn't that be more of a "goof" than a "remark?" [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, it just seems like weird things that should be correct are more likely in trivia or fun facts, but hey, I'm new here. And yes, 'meniscus' is just the very top of the water. i.e. you look at the meniscus in a measuring cup or a test tube, per se, to find out how much is inside it. -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== The Plagues ==

Hordes of locusts and Famine? Isn't this a clear reference to the 10 plagues of Egypt in the first testament/torah? Or am I missing something? Did someone else catch this?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 22:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's what came to mind when I heard it. [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It might be, but those are not actually limited to biblical times: [[wikipedia:1915 locust plague|1915 locust plague]] and [[wikipedia:Famine|famine]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Locusts was one of the 10 plagues, famine was not. There was famine in Egypt, but that was during the time of Joseph, not Moses. The ten plagues were:
:::#Blood
:::#Frogs
:::#Lice
:::#Flies
:::#Animals dying of disease (there's no shorter way to translate it into English)
:::#Boils
:::#Hail and Fire
:::#Locusts
:::#Darkness
:::#Death of the firstborns
:::For more information see [[Wikipedia:Plagues of Egypt]] or, more directly, Exodus 7:14-12:36. But I don't think that by one of them appearing, especially one of the ones that commonly happens, you can say it's a clear reference, I don't think you can even say it's a reference at all. Maybe if it was about one of the less common ones and specifically mentioned all the water turning to blood, or hail that had fire in it, fine. It's like saying that since [[Blood|blood]] appears commonly in the HR universe, it's also a reference to the plagues. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 10:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:This is a reference to the book of Joel which speaks of "Hordes of locusts and Famine", you can read it online here: http://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1401.htm it's just four short chapters, and you only need to read the first one to get the point. [[User:89.139.134.185|89.139.134.185]] 11:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

==Book of Phone==

The first thing that came to mind when he said it that way was the [[Wikipedia: Book of Genesis|Book of Genesis]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:So? It's obvious this is a Bible reference. Which book? There are many. It's [[TTATOT]] or explaining the joke, pick one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Moreover, Genesis usually isn't read at funerals; "Book of Psalms" or "Book of Lamentations" or something else would have fit better. But I think it's really just a broad Bible reference, and not notable. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:It sounds like the book of Job. [[User:Neox|Neox]]

== Reotarded? ==

Hey, is anyone else thinking that Strong Bad is making a portmanteau of "leotard" and "retarded" to insult his brother?[[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

:You're definitely right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::No, he's not. It's open to interpretation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Oh I sooo called this. Phlip, you were there, remember? No, "leotarded" is an actual word. If it was supposed to be a portmanteau, it would have been something more clever. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 12:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Yeah, but does that neccesarily mean it can't be a portmanteau too? I mean, "entrangled" is an actual word, but What I Want says it's a portmanteau. Plus it's a funny idea.
:::::I suggest you get your money back on that dictionary, as "entrangled" is not an English word. That leaves your argument that "it's a funny idea" which should never be a major consideration when considering a notable fact here. We are not here to be funny unless it works out that we can be while we are doing what we are here to do: document the work of TBC. "Entrangled" is simply not found anyplace except as a portmanteau in their work. "Leotarded" is not only a legitimate word, but the possible portmanteau is particularly insensitive, one I doubt TBC would use. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think you're thinking of 'entangled'. Like Qermaq says, 'entrangled' isn't a word. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

''entrangled'': '''adverb''' - in a state of entrang.

''entrang'': '''noun''' - I dunno, I think strongbad just made it up.
:It's simply [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entrangled not a word]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Is a similarity a reference??==

Apparently someone thinks strong bad's COOLogy is similar to some ask a ninja thing about pre-recording your final words. I've never seen AaN (so I could be mistaken), but your final words and your eulogy are not the same thing. Also, more importantly, this section is for REFERENCES, not similarities. Unless there's some particular characteristic that makes you think TBC have seen the AaN in question and were intentionally making a reference to it, this should be removed.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 13:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:Many people have precorded last words. It's likely not a reference to anything (i it were, it'd be TTATOT) so I agree. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree as well. Should it be STUFF'd, do you think? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 23:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say STUFF it, but I don't exactly know how to initiate that...([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 16:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC))
::::[[HRWiki:STUFF/Newpage]] has a step by step walkthrough of how to STUFF. By the way, I personally don't think it's a reference of any type, I just think it's Strong Bad being Strong Bad: creating cool, complex ways for simple, boring things. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I followed the walkthrough and started a STUFF page for it. I think I got it right, but this is my first time...[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 18:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

== Wrong note in Chopin... ==

While Strong Bad has never been renowned for singing in tune, I transcribed his singing into these notes:

C---C---C-C---Eb---D-D---C-C---A-C

Well, I wouldn't expect the Brothers Chaps to know the exact key of the original march, but the notes from the main theme were originally: [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Sonata_No.2_%28Chopin%2C_Frederic%29]

Bb---Bb---Bb-Bb---Db---C-C---Bb-Bb---Bb-Bb

As you can see, the second last interval is changed from a unison (tonic to tonic) to a minor third (submediant to tonic). I suppose it's forgivable, considering that a lot of the cartoon and pop culture references to Chopin's funeral march actually change the second last note to a leading tone (the note right below the tonic), but Strong Bad skips yet another tone down. Anyway, that's my music rant for the day.

~Stapler

:Cool, thanks for the analysis! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pine-a for me-a ==

"Pining" is a reference to [[trevor the vampire]], is it not? I noticed that this was a trivia fact in Trogdor when Strong Bad says "I pine for you!"
: It's just a word. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
: PS. The reason it's mentioned for Trogdor is due to the ''way'' he says it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It has been a while since he's used that phrase, and the way it's said seems to suggest a deliberate reference to his older incarnations. Among other things, the "pine-uh for me-uh" is a somewhat exaggerated way of using his old pseudo-Mexican accent ("I like-a to say, 'Holy crap!'"). Think that's got any merit to it? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taxidoimied... Bugs Bunny reference? ==

When Strong Bad says "taxidoimied," I believe it is a reference to Bugs Bunny, who would quite often mispronounce words the same way by pronouncing the "er" in words as "oi" instead. And I can think of no other place he could've gotten that from. Anyone agree? -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 07:17 PM, March 16, 2007 (EST)
:It could be, but I'm tempted to say no. If it's used in places other than Bugs Bunny (and references of it), then probably not. If you can't find anything, it could be, but I'd wait for more responses. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 23:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Where did Mel Blanc get that manner of speech? It's a Brooklyn accent. People in Brooklyn talk like that to this day. This is definitely not a direct reference to Bugs, as that would be TTATOT. It's just a funny pronunciation based on a well-known accent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Absolutely. That accent existed long before Bugs was around. FWIW, Blanc claimed that he combined Brooklyn and Bronx accents to create the rabbit's voice. --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Absoloitly. Not a reference at oil! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Character Variation/Zombie Bad ==

With the character variation article, there's only the one form of strong bad zombie. I think there should be a second entry to cover the 2046 equivalent. [[User:220.245.178.139|220.245.178.139]] 05:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

:Well, the 2046 version of Strong Bad doesn't look any different than normal Strong Bad, other than that he's wearing tattered jeans, has a brain hat on, and is spitting out grape jelly. I'm pretty sure he's still alive there. So.. I don't really think he needs another entry. But.. that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::Of course he's still alive, he says that he hopes the zombies will still let him join their side. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, it's not a variation. It's a costume and should be listed in [[Strong Bad Other Costumes]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Of course he was alive. His eyes were alive. At the two funerals in the emails, his eyes died and lost their greenness when he died. I'm positive they weren't closed because they still have their gradient and he can see with them. I think that might not even be 2046, just staged. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== 5 boom boxes, 1 tape ==

I can't believe no one else has mentioned this yet, but whats the deal with the 5 boom boxes apparently all playing in PERFECT synchronization. and secondly. that coach z breaks into all of them at the exact same time. That essentially means that he wouldve had to record over the original tape before strong bad made copies of it. Thirdly. only 1 of the 5 boomboxes lets u see the tape. Most if not all tape players let u see the tape, so u can tell if its going or not --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 06:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it be a more simple explanation that he's got all 5 wired together to play off of one of the tape decks off one tape? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::Assuming that those old-style boomboxes could even do such a thing - they werent exactly filled with ports and holes for cross-wiring - they all have the play button pushed down, or are saying "playin'" or something...
:::I have an old boom box from 1982 or so that has two sets each, in and out, of RCA jacks. It certainly wasn't top of the line, either. I used it as speakers for my first CD player, and I had to have Play mashed down for the audio to pass through. --Septyn, 18Mar07
:they all have a pause button though... suspension of disbelief!! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::The wires are behind the boomboxes. Believe me, I checked. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::When you're talking about how the boomboxes are set up, how they were taped over, how they're in sync, etc... Just remember, one of the boomboxes is a ''cardboard box with stuff drawn on it''. Then keep the rest in perspective. Seriously. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Hair? ==

Is that pubic hair on the belly of the guy standing next to the Coughin' with the duck shirt?
:No, I'm sure it's intended to be belly hair — TBC work very hard to keep their toons PG. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::[[Wikipedia:Abdominal hair]] {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to be more scared by, the fact that that page exists, or that you found it and linked it, but its definitely belly hair [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 21:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Echo ==

How can you have an echo in an open field if there is nothing to reflect your voice off of? --18:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You're in the wrong talk page. You want Drive-Thru. And I don't know why. --[[User:Homestar3.14|Homestar3.14]] 18:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taranchula ==

Shouldn't it be mentioned that Taranchula is a direct reference back to [[death metal]]? I mean, that's where they first appeared.
Ya know... when he started saying how he was going to do something different from Chopin, I thought for sure he was going to say Limozeen...
-Zero.exe
:Eh, it kinda goes without saying. And besides, this isn't even the first email that Taranchula has been mentioned in. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 12:35 AM, 24 March 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, actually, Taranchula was mentioned first in the same e-mail Limozeen was. Then again in the montage one (only breifly, their name was seen on a record). --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Mind Your P's and ... P's. ===
{{stufffact|Since P is the 16th letter in the English alphabet, it makes sense for pizza places to be in chapter 16 of the phone book.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)|23:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|18|0|your funeral}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== A Ninja Reference's Last Words?? ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad recording his own Eulogy is similar to an episode of the popular podcast series, Ask a Ninja, in the episode "Last Words", because he asks people to pre-record their final words.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)|05:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|18|0|your funeral}}

== Off the chain/charts. ==

Now that we know what off the hook, off the grid, and off the wagon mean, we should probably show what being off the chain and off the charts mean, right? I mean I noticed that Off the Chain happens to be some band's album. Same thing with Off the Charts. Go to wikipedia and you'll know what I mean. Are they worth being put in the Real-World References section or not?
-[[User: Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]]
:"Off the charts" is a generic phrase meaning something along the lines of "these readings are so high, our instruments cannot measure them". A thermometer that only went to 100 degrees trying to record a 150-degree temperature would read the temperature as "off the charts". Essentially, it's "higher than you can measure". No idea what "off the chain" means, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== 2046 Strong Sad reference? ==

I just noticed a remarkable similarity between the 2046 version of Strong Sad, and his easter-egg action figure in [[action_figure|sbemail 42]]. Does anyone else think this is noteworthy? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm, on second look, maybe the similarity is just in his arms. Meh. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd say it's just the muscular arms. Similar, but not necessarily a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== The End of the... what the heck? ==

Since my {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466929&oldid=465536 reference}} has created much confusion/edit {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466965&oldid=466958 reversal}}, I will post a better explanation here to start/continue the discussion (I'd rather do this before trying to STUFF anything):

The "reference":
:''The phrases "locusts and famine" and "doomsday device" are references to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].''

First, this is how the conversation transpired (note that once "conversations" start in the edit history, it's best to move them to a talk page):
* Stux (Talk | contribs) (→Real-World References - ref to armageddon (so is the zombie uprising in a way, should that be included?), please rephrase as necessary)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (i doubt that, these phrases are too common)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The phrases came from Armageddon originally, didn't they?)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (nope. locusts and famine are mentioned in the bible, doomsday devices appear in a lot of sci-fi)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The biblical Armegaddon? I just want to be sure we're talking about the same thing.)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (undid revision 466958 by Shwoo (Talk) no)

With more careful though, I realized that these are essentially two separate (but related) references:
*The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction.

To be clear, like Shwoo said I was referring to the biblical Armageddon (per the link provided), not the movie. I thought there were several "end of the world" themes that were left out of the discussion. This also includes the mention of "zombie attacks". Most modern zombie movies portray zombies as an infectious being that can turn the entire world into zombies, thus bringing another "doomsday" scenario. I would like to suggest that these three "doomsday" references be combined into one section with three subsections describing each topic. One last thing: the phrase "locusts and famine" does in fact come from the bible: they're two of the disasters mentioned in the book of revelation. What say ye all? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think that there's enough of a connection to warrant a reference. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree. Similar references have been found in other movies and shows. Anywho, I wanted to present a variation of what I thought the fact could look like:
----
*This email makes a few references to the end of the world:
**The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction capable of detroying all life on earth.
----
::Of course I can't think of anything for zombies, as that is a bit more general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think there's that much of a connection for the "locusts and famine" thing. They're both common doomsday scenarios. As for the "doomsday device," that is WAY too general and a little too self-explanatory to be worthy of a reference, in my opinion. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}}

== Zombie Fact ==

Did you know that the zombie effect in Michael Jackson's music video "Thriller", is achieved by the use of grape jelly? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_%28music_video%29#Trivia [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, it's already in the article, ignore me. [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

:Okay! {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 20:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gray eyes? ==

*Both when dead and as a zombie (at the funeral), Stong Bad's eyes look as they did back in the early Tandy emails, just blackish-grey.

Okay, so when I first saw this, my immediate response was, "Wait, Strong Bad's eyes never looked like that." Just to be certain, I went all the way back to [[some kinda robot]] and, sure enough, his eyes were green. Unless all the Tandy emails were edited later so he had green eyes (and I'm not sure why they would have ever been grey in the Tandy emails, seeing as how his eyes were even green in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]), this fact is... well, what's the phrase I'm looking for... not true. Unless there's something I don't know (and if there is, somebody please fill me in), I'm removing this fact pending further discussion. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

:I think it means: They have the ''style'' of the Tandymails (without the 2 little circles in the corner of his eyes), but instead of green they're blackish-gray. --[[User:AlmsforthePudgy|AlmsforthePudgy]] 14:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wow. That really needs a rewording. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wait, no, I take it back... it doesn't really seem noteworthy. If they're not the same color, what's the point in drawing the comparison? {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's Room? ==

The Purple Room in the Easter Egg could be 2046 Strong Sad's Room
:Is it? Last time I read, it was a warehouse.---{{User:Record307/sig}} 00:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::"Could be" means speculation. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:04, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:your funeral

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:20:15 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Too far? */

== 2:03 ==

I think that when Strong Bad mentions that the zombies will come at 2:03 it is a reference to Strong Sad's Lament when he says that Tuesdays at 2:03 is his favorite time.
:- It's possible, but it's a bit of a stretch. Especially since March 31, 2047 falls on a Saturday. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::But the easter egg takes place in ''2046''. In which case March 31 is a Sunday. Either way, it's not Tuesday. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Sad likes Tuesdays at 3:02, not 2:03. [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 02:35, 16 March 2007

== Homestar and Marzipan ==

I'm not sure if it belongs on the wiki, but is it possible that Homestar and Marzipan live with each other? The front of Marzipan's house looks the same, and Homestar's broken Cow lamp may be a different room besides the front. should this be on their relationship page?

:I don't think so. Marzipan's house is blue, as seen in 2003 Halloween toon [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and Homestar is trick or treating at this house. Though Homestar is kinda funny and doesn't think somethings through most of the time, I don't think he would trick or treat at his own home. Homestar's house is gray as seen in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However it could be that this ''is'' the same house and is only colored based on the season (blue because it's night and grey because of the cold snow). [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 16:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::If you look on the pages for [[Homestar's House]] and [[Marzipan's House]], the interior rooms look different, meaning they can't live together. On the other hand, that makes me wonder why he said, "Marzipan, I'm home!" when he doesn't actually live there. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Huh. Maybe that was just Homestar being Homestar and confirming things he doesn't even know about. Kind of like the whole "It's time for tasteball!", "Oh, crap. Tasteball already." bit. 18:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:This scene is Strong Bad's future speculation (after all, he's dead at this point). It's possible that Homestar and Marzipan could be cohabitating at this future time, no? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:In the commentary for [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], TBC said that they didn't want anyone thinking that Homestar and Marzipan live together (or something to that effect). [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Can I help?==
can I help with trying to find some glitches? -[[User:TheDenzel|The Denzel]] 01:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Do whatever you want to help. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== the email is down right now. ==

This probably means it will soon be updated in a way that will be of interest for the 'glitch/trivia' section.[[User:168.156.44.101|168.156.44.101]] 02:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:...uh, no. It's not. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:(if you are getting a 404'd from it, hold down the shift key and hit the reload button) {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 02:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It perhaps wasn't gone for long, I reloaded it SEVERAL during a few minutes when it wouldn't seem to appear.[[User:24.22.145.14|24.22.145.14]] 05:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::This is unremarkable, it happens all the time. It's on your end. You need to clear your cache or force a reload using the aforementioned trick. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Homestar lip dot?==
When Homestar is reading from the phone book, one of the mouth frames has a black dot on it, and shows up whenever that particular frame is up. — [[User:69.105.202.40|69.105.202.40]] ([[User talk:69.105.202.40|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.105.202.40|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

- Check please. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I checked the email. The dot is very small and faint, but it does trully exist. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::frame 2031, it is an error with his eye. when he closes his eyes, one of them does not get fully erased. {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::If it is not noticeable to the viewer except by manipulation, it's not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Too far? ==

O_O Too... i dunno. Definitely not for kids. More PG-13 rated.

[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Uh... Why? Because there's corpses? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 02:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It's all pretty cartoony, expecially how Strong Bad continues to fail staying dead. Strong Bad waking up with an exposed ribcage creeped me out a little, but I wouldn't say the email went too far. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I think they were in danger of going too far, given the rather morbid question, but I have to say they handled it quite nicely. I mean, Homestar reading from the phone book at a eulogy? Genius! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::: Got it! [[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Getting a bit forumy here. Let's keep this page about the content. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:No one ever made the claim that Homestar Runner was a cartoon for children. (In fact, in the email "For kids," Strong Bad is quite opposed to the idea, heh.) I didn't see you complaining when one of the members of Blue Laser got a fork jammed in his eye. Stop taking it so seriously. [[User:0rion|0rion]]
::[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=10241 Read this thread]. I don't know if the person who started this section complained about it, but some people have. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Ummm, I don't know why, but this e-mail creeped me out too. Everybody! is right. I know, I know, I'm weird... Also, my friend was talking to me about this website, and she said it was a family website. 0.o I dunno.--[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 21:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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::I think itsa little creepy, i dont get creeped out like that, but its definatly not in the category of PG-13. I think it should not be seen for girls under the age of 7, and boys under the age of 4. LOL! [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:20, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Egg - future SB ==

Are you sure he's a zombie in the egg? When he came out of the jar as a zombie he had black eyes and a visible rib. In the egg it looks like he's just stuck somethng to his head, put on some tattered jeans and is spitting out a mouthful of grape jelly. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. I think he's still alive there.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Which would agree with what he said at the end of the email. How he hoped the zombies would let him be on their side, even though he was alive. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:While I see where you all are coming from, in my opinion, SB acts more like a zombie in the easter egg than in the e-mail. That is, in the e-mail proper, he has complete and full consciousness, while such presumably cannot be said for egg SB. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, he ''acts'' like a zombie, anyone can spit out jelly while saying "Blarg". - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]]
:::I don't exactly follow. It's true that ''anyone'' can spit out jelly and say, "Blarg." My point is that it would be unthinkable, or at least improbable, that a zombie would speak coherently and recognize people, as Strong Bad does when he breaks out of the jar. I was merely pointing out that easter egg SB seems more zombie-esque (by merit of being less human-esque) than he does in the e-mail itself. It also seems likely that he's just pretending to be a zombie, as this is hinted at in the end of the e-mail. So, in my opinion, he's not really a zombie in either scenario. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 19:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::It's kinda hard to just be ''pretending'' your a zombie when your skin is tattered and rotting and your ribcage is exposed. I see your point, and it's valid, but it still doesn't justify why he'd still be alive when he breaks out of the jar. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 7:04 PM, March 18, 2007 (EST)

== References in future characters? ==

Do you think Future Pom Pom and Future Strong Sad are references in themselves? Future Pom Pom looks a lot like Duke Nukem... — [[User:68.44.220.232|68.44.220.232]] ([[User talk:68.44.220.232|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.44.220.232|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])
:By their faces, beards, cigars, and ammo belts, I am willing to wager that it is a reference to the Contra series of video games and the 2 main chracters from the original game in that series. See the picture located [http://www.racketboy.com/retro/contra-arcade.jpg here] for confirmation purposes.~[[User:DanZero|DanZero]] 06:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Interesting — I wonder if there's a closer reference though, only because Contra doesn't have anything like zombies in it. Or maybe it's just a general reference to that style of gritty '80s action hero... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Sure does seem to look a lot like contra... hard to piece together why they'd use that tho. other than the fact that it was like the best game ever --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 07:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I just thought they were the archetype of futuristic survivors. I didn't see a particular reference, it's endemic to the genre. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::I thought Strong Sad was a bit reminiscent of Snake Plissken from the film "Escape From New York", but it might just be me. [[User:Klarsh|Klarsh]] 16:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Not sure how relevant it is, but am I alone in thinking there are similarities between future Strong Sad and the Strong Sad action figure? -Xerzes, who hasn't done this enough to remember how to make the sig and timestamp happen.

::My first impression was that Pom Pom looked like Cable from the X-Men animated series but it's been a while since I've seen that. An X-Men connection could explain the Doomsday device though, which was created to kill all the mutants (or in this case, zombies). Then again, post-apocalyptic scenarios with cigars and doomsday devices are pretty common! [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 12:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:::It's probably just TTATOT, seeing how many references we've been able to come up with. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

== screaming yellow ==

Is there any evidence that this is really a reference to the candy, and not say, to the car? Either seems pretty much arbitrary to me. Perhaps the candy is a bit more in "TBC style" as far as references go (so retro). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: But TBC didn't make the reference... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::yes, of course, since this is in the body of the email received, it should be assumed that TBC are refering to nothing at all, and it's simply word for word the email they received. At any rate, it feels like speculation to me. Though, there are only 2 or 3 things in the popular lexicon that I can imagine the author of the email intended. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it was a faulty reference to Dripping Yellow Madness. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 05:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Although I have no problems in keeping the reference out (since any reference made by a fan is borderline as it is), I don't think it's a matter of [[TTATOT]]. I'm almost certain that it's a reference to Screamin' Yellow Zonkers. If this gets taken to a vote, I'll green light it, but as of right now, I have no problems with it being left out. - [[User:0rion|0rion]]
Removed as speculation, we have no idea what the author intended and there is more than one
possiblity {{User:Bryanc/sig}}:
<blockquote>*'Screaming Yellow Strong Bad' is presumably a reference to the snack food [[Wikipedia:Screaming Yellow Zonkers|Screaming Yellow Zonkers]].</blockquote>
Ideas in the email itself are not TBC created, and as such are not notable references in nearly all cases. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: I think they should have continued the joke...I mean, Screaming Yellow Zonkers? Screaming Yellow Zombie? I'm not sayings it's comedic gold,like commas, but it's definitely the same style humor as this website. ~ Shadix

In my mind, I thought it was a reference to [[Unseen Characters|Dripping Yellow Madness]] from [[Cool Things]], but since it was part of the e-mail rather than something that's within the toon inself, I didn't bother mentioning anything. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 15:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Vocal Effect ==

What effect did they put on Strong bads Voice when he was "zombiefied" its Awesome, and being the Avant-Garde Musician, it would help a lot (music wise). Thanks.

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i think it's an allusion to what happens to the character "jordy" (played by stephen king) in the movie creepshow. the undead jordy sounds just like the undead strong bad.

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Awesome, ill read up on that. now i need to find out how to replicate it ^^

FWIW, it's used in the movie "Creepshow" AGAIN as the vocal effect on the dead father in "Father's Day"...

: Months late and dollars short, but it's a question worth answering in case the asker ever looks again. You can probably achieve this effect or something very similar to it with extreme settings on a [[Wikipedia:Flanging|flanger]]. Sounds like a modulation frequency of at least 15 Hz and probably zero feedback, but I can't guess at the modulation depth or wet/dry mix without experimentation. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Passion Reference?? ==

Am I the only one who sees a ridiculous amount of Passion of the Christ references? Strong Sad carrying the jar like the cross while being whipped, Strong Bad's exposed ribcage, references to the repeatedly changed day of prophecy that the souls of the dead will come back as zombies and attack the living? Am I crazy or just the only one morbid enough to see it?
*You're crazy and unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: Ah, very good then. Thought: Baleeted.
::And you're still unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The first two I could kind of understand, though I would call them more coincidental. The last one makes no sense: when in Mel Gibson's film did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed day of a prophecy that souls of the dead will come back and attack the living? [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:Never seen the movie, but when in ''this email'' did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed date that souls of the dead would come back? Strong Bad didn't change the date of the zombie revolution; he just got more and more specific as to the time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Does the whipping thing reference ''anything''? it seems like it should... --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:No, it's just a poke at slavery. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 18:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== 2046? 20X6? ==

Could this be a reference? I know it means that 2046 is NOT 20X6 (as the characters look completely different from their 20X6 forms) but could the similarity of the years be a reference? You know, a nudge from TBC, baiting us, telling us "Hey, here's one that it's NOT, good luck figuring out which one it IS." [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think that 20X6 is actually one year, or else last year would also be 20X6. When Sam (from Concord, California) who asked the e-mail in [[time capsule]] said it would be opened in X0 years, I think Strong Bad took X0 as an actual way to calculate time in years. {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::That does not directly address the question I brought up in any way. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the year "2046" often used in some comicbooks to depict a future alternate reality? I know there's a movie called [[Wikipedia:2046 (film)|2046]], but I don't recall zombies in that. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 14:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I think you're talking about 2099. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
:Well, I know I looked on the back of a really old Metroid game box in a computer store and it said "In the year 20X5..." -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 22:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, you guys. Have a look at the intro paragraph of [[20X6]] ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fourth wall Break? ==

Marzipan just leaned over the edge of the left side of the frame. Is this a fourth wall break? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:You're joking right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 13:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Don't be mean. Now, I can see what you're trying to say. If she physically manipulated the frame (which we wouldn't be able to see anyway), THEN it would be a fourth wall break. As far as we're concerned, it's like someone leaning away from they're cooking to talk to their relative, or something. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 14:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh thanks for your help Bryanc. B-( {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 19:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I did not mean to be rude, I'm very sorry I came across that way. But this is not close to what a break in the theatrical 4th wall means. A "fourth wall" break is when the actors acknowledge that they are actors. It was to be somewhat jarring, like out of nowhere Strong Sad looks into the camera and says "Hello!". That is breaking 4th wall. It's toyed with a lot and the lines are blurred here. Which makes it a little difficult to say what and what.
{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

==Addendum==

An addendum is "something added or to be added, especially a supplement to a book". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's nice to know. go ahead and put it under the "Explanations" sectionor the remarks section. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno — do we usually list definitions of words under Explanations, unless it has something to do with the context of the toon? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Breaking References??==
I'm against listing "So Cold" by Breaking Benjamin as a reference for the funeral procession. I just watched the video again on Youtube, and there's nothing there to link it as a reference, beyond the fact that they're both funeral processions, which is far from unique. At the very least, I think the wording should be changed, "oddly reminiscent" is too vague and seems to me to be an admission that it's not really a reference. Either re-word it into a definite, specific reference or get rid of it completely. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's a reference either. I say, go ahead and remove it, and if anyone thinks it should stay they can STUFF it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Bibendum image ==

The Bibendum easter egg isn't just a Michelin reference, it's a direct reference to [http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Le-Pneu-Michelin-Nunc-Est-Bibendum-Giclee-Print-C12046037.jpeg this classic ad]. According to [[Wikipedia:Michelin#Bibendum|Wikipedia]], which provides a translation of the ad's text, the name of the mascot (which is Latin for "to drink") originated with this ad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 19:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, good find — you're right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Good job. you can go ahead and put that on the page WITH the picture.
:Waaait a second there, man. "bibendum" is a gerund, so it just means "drinking" (in its use as a noun, not a verb or adjective, e.g. "Drinking is fun").
::The image is clearly a reference to the ad, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Newlydead ==
When Strong Bad said 'newlydead', do you think he was making a play on 'newlywed'? I know it doesn't really fit the context, but just by the way it sounds...maybe not....--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I'd say that's probably where he derived the word. Typical Strong Bad coinage, I'd say. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Count me in too. An easy pun Strong Bad would say. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. Very yes. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 21:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Chaup au Fan? ==

What is a "Chaup au Fan"? If anyone knows, this should be added to Explanations. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:It sounds like very poor and broken French. Literally, I think it would be "[Nonexistent word] to the fan[as in, a Homestar fan, not a fan which would move air]." Perhaps by « Chaup » they were trying to make "Chap" sound more French? Thus, the image was created by the Chaps for a fan? Chaup could be a French word, I'm not certain (I'm only in fifth-year French), but it's not one I've ever heard, nor can I find it in my dictionary. Oh, and by the way, the pronunciation (following the IPA standards) would probably be something like: ʃop o fɑ̃ [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

::While I appreciate the linguistic exploration (I do love those), I'm assuming it must actually mean something. It's unlike TBC to include something like this which is made up out of whole cloth. There's gotta be a meaning to this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:::True; "From the Chaps, for a fan" would be my best guess at the actual meaning, but who knows. Again, maybe they just wanted to make it look French, Michelin being a French company. I'll look into the issue further.[[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:I may be completely crazy, but it seems to me to be similar to the way Strong Sad produces "Chaparone" in senior prom. Anyone? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's just Strong Sad's (quite good) French accent that makes them sound similiar. And I favor an explantion of what this term means by someone who knows as I've been able to find nothing about it. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::: It's pretty much just nonsense. There's a "translation" up there ^ a few lines, but it's just telling you that what Strong Sad's saying doesn't make sense. I've taken four years of French and I can tell you thatit's garbage. Pure garbage, sister. Also, I feel that SS's accent leaves much to be desired... he overdoes it on many an occasion. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Apparently at this point we're confident that "Chaup au Fan" is simply gibberish. While saying that, and noting the relation to dance terms as the context of the toon supports, are notable, the speculative meanings are just that, and as such I will remove them from the article and note them in this thread.

:*The way it's initially said by Strong Bad and Strong Sad sounds like a mispronunciation of "coq au vin," which is chicken in wine sauce, a popular French dish. It might also be an intentional misspelling (to seem even more French) of the term "chapeau fan," which would literally translate as a "fan hat" (e.g. a baseball cap pertaining to a favorite team).

::::{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Put him in a jar? ==

I don't hear "put him in a jar," but rather "brother in a jar." Anyone else? -just a random newb

Actually, I thought it sounded like "funeral in a jar" [[User:63.165.156.213|63.165.156.213]] 23:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

not enough syllables. speaking of, when they say it the third time, and also in the easter egg, they run the words together, so it's more like "puteminajar". does anyone else think this should be indicated in the transcript? [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:I definitely heard brother on a second viewing. Also, it could be "fun'ral," so syllables aren't an issue. Could we maybe get a vote? I cast my vote... '''BROTHER'''-wards! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:It doesn't sound like "brother" to me. There's no r sound. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 06:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I definitely heard "put him" (I was the transcriber.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I hear "brother in a jar". -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 01:45, 16 March 2007 (CST)
::::I also definitely hear "put him".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::While I'm not sure exactly what it says, I am pretty certain that I hear neither "brother in a jar" nor "put him in a jar." I've listened to it over and over again, and instead of "in," it sounds like it's saying "for," though I have not been able to come up with a wording for the sentence in which that would make sense. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 03:11, 16 March 2007 (EST)
:I watched it three times this week and heard "Brother in a jar." I also thought "fall back" was "Pom Bag" and that it was supposed to be 2046 Pom Pom's name. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::I hear "Put him in a jar" [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 17:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::My best guess is "Pull him from the jar". I definitely hear it starting with "P" sound, and I'm pretty sure about the "f" sound ("from" or maybe "for") and "the jar" instead of "a jar". Maybe the second word is "it" instead of "him". But maybe we'd better just wait til they release it as a quote. I hope they do! -another random newb, 22:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, your guess sounds a lot closer.

Should we add a footnote to the transcript? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:We don't usually do that when we're unsure.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::I found similar footnotes in [[boring (really)]] and [[candy product]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The footnote is useful when there is no consensus, or equal consensus for different options. In this case I don't really know if there us consesnus, but I'm personally happy to allow the footnote to remain as proposed while discussion ensues. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I watched it several times, and I always heard "put him in a jar". Well, more like "puteminajar", as Neumannz said. It also makes more sense. I can't see "brother in a jar" being relevant, and about "funeral in a jar", the funeral isn't in the jar. It's in.. wherever the funeral is. But that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

:I hear "put him in a jar" too, which makes the most sense, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I can only hear "put him in a jar". ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 23:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC))

Well, now that the Quote of the Week says "brother" instead of "put him", I may suggest every single change to the transcript and subtitles once again. Man, same issue with Marzipan's word booty. Anyway, I'm only visiting, and then I'm leaving again. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, that goes without saying. We don't really need to be reminded to make those changes. (He's talking about [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-22|this quote]], by the way.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yay, I got it! And some others, but not the majority, got it too! [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
:High fives all around! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 03:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yay! -just the random newb who started all of this
:::The QotW says "brother in a jar", but I hear "put him in a jar". Ignore the "User:". [[User:Neox]]

== Coach Z 1234 Beat ==

The beat in Strong Bad's funeral kind of sounds like the #1 hit: [[These Peoples Try To Fade Me]] -{{User:Viklas/sig}}

:Sounded more like Another One Bites The Dust to me... [[User:74.119.23.212|74.119.23.212]] 00:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:TTAOT, it sounded like a generic rap to me. Which could sound like a lot of raps. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== World War Z ==

This is really just idle speculation, but has anyone hear ever read World War Z? It's a story about what would happen if Zombies really did attack humanity within the next 30-40 years. I'm pretty sure that TBC hasn't even heard of the book, but still, I feel like this deserves a minor refrence due to the similarities, like here, on the talk page. Also, could Screaming Yellow be a reference to Kyle the Yellow Dart Smith? Again, idle speculation
:Actually, I was more apt to believe the zombie references in this email have to do with the horror/sci-fi genre of video games and movies, like Resident Evil and the like. But that's already starting down the TTATOT path. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::'''NEVER''' use my name in vain. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:There's also a book called ''The Zombie Survival Guide'', and probably countless others in the same strain. You could never have a reference, it's just TTATOT. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::How coincidental. I was reading both those books just today. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::It was probably a reference to "Dripping Yellow Madness." [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think the zombie uprising was a reference to anything in particular, because that's been used in a lot of different stories/movies/whatever. And I'm really not sure what Screaming Yellow was a reference to, but since it was from the fan, they could be just writing random words or something to make it sound funny. Who knows?
::::Also, what's TTATOT mean? {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 21:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::See [[TTATOT]]: "'This That And The Other Thing.' Applicable when a reference in a toon could refer to one of many similar things. The rule of thumb is that if it could apply to several things, it probably refers to nothing in particular."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== Same? ==

Is Strong Sad really saying the same thing that his Bibendum advert has written out? It sounds more like he's saying chapon fond, chape en front, chape en fan, or even chapeau fort, more than Chaup au fan. Unless he just has horrible French pronunciation. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:There's no copy in that ad which would be reasonably mispronounced by a moderately-educated person as "Chap au fan" - and this is TBC we're talking about. This is clearly something but what? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:Just a wild shot in the dark, but we are talking about the Chap brothers' website, right?

:I'm pretty sure he is indeed saying the same thing as the text in the ad, but there might be an off chance it's "something enfant". Perhaps "Chaps enfant" meaning that Strong Bad is a (brain)child of the Brothers Chaps. It's a bit of a stretch, and I think in proper French the "s" at the end of "Chaps" would be pronounced at the beginning of "enfant" anyway. Just a thought. - {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:Strong Sad's pronuciation in French is, whenever he's done it before, quite good. It would be out of character if he were screwing this up. Any dancers out there? I really would like to know what Monsieur Sad is referring to. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a ballroom dancer. I think what Strong Sad is saying is "chassé font" (pronounced more or less like what Strong Sad said, like "schahs auh faunt") which is a move we use in ballroom to mean a long step forward, followed by sliding the other foot to neutral position again. In other words, extend the first (usually right) leg like a lady's lunge in tango, then slide the other foot back, the foot ending sideways. Does that make sense? The only problem I see is that isn't really a flashy move, so why would SS want to show it off? [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

::Is that how it's pronounced in ballroom dancing terms? Because in French, it would be pronounced more like "shahs say fon(with a nasal 't' suggested at the end)." [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::I don't speak a word of French, so I'm probably entirely inaccurate in the pronunciation. My ballroom teacher is from Wisconsin, so that probably influences the accent a bit ;) [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]
:::I think you mean a nasal "n" sound. The t is silent. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::That's why I said it was suggested at the end; the nasalization of the "n" suggests a "t" afterwards. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::::Oh. That's kinda weird, but okay, I guess. Really, though, the nasal n could suggest other letters, so I would have just said that, but hey, whatever floats your boat. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 13:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::One thing I also thought of, silly as it may be: this may also link to SB's comment about a "chappy thong." Reason being is if you aren't used to moving correctly, certain garments like to wedge themselves in uncomfortable places. [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

== Phone Book ==

Anyone else notice that this is the second email in a row to refer to a phone book? The last has Homestar mentioning that the "real money is in" phone books, and this one has has the reading from the "book of phone." Is this, perhaps, setting itself up as another running gag? Or, more interestingly, might it somehow be tied into the recent DNA references? --left unsigned

:Hm -- I think it's a coincidence. Much like the [[Talk:unnatural#Chocolate cake again! I said chocolate cake again!|chocolate cake]] reference in [[unnatural]], there's nothing else that ties it to the previous appearance... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:We'll see if it comes up again next email [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

::Yeah, probably just a coincidence. But I still think the chocolate cake thing was anything but coincidental.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 11:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Mycology and Leonard part 6 ==

the tape in the boOOMmbox says my c00logy, which is much like mycology, the study of fungi. fungi eat dead people. fungi probably are eating dead strong bad.<s> fun fact?</s> notable? prolly. also, the reference to leotards being part of a weapon is reminescent of Leonard part 6. {{User:Csours/sig}} 17:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's notable. He's just emphasizing how COOL his eulogy is. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 17:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed. (And it probably needs adding to [[Portmanteaus]]. I'll go do that now...) {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::: <strike>Just another thought- should it go in [[Internet Slang]] too? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)</strike>
::::...actually, now that I look at it, it's COOLogy rather than c00logy, so discount that.{{User:Kahteh/sig}} 22:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's notable to point out that this webpage may be the only webpage in existence that refers to both The Passion and Leonard Part 6
:::::[http://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=3fc&q=%22Passion%20of%20the%20Christ%22%20%22Leonard%20Part%206%22&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=iw That's simply not true.] --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fixed it? ==

I re-watched the e-mail again, and it looks like that when he says "funeral's" he actually types funeral's now.

== "Marizipan i'm home!" ==

I can't think what, but I'm sure this is a parody on something, there was a TV show where sombody said "*Someone* I'm home!" in very similar mannor... [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 21:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:It's basically a cliche by now... It was done a lot in those '50s shows. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe "Lucy, I'm home!"? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 22:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:It was such a cliche on black and white tv shows that there was a truly terrible television show, a parody (though really stretching the definition of the word) made for Nick at Nite in the late early '90's named after it. (I can't believe that they actually made a wiki article about it, but yeah, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi_Honey%2C_I%27m_Home "Hi Honey I'm Home."] People have explained the cliche as that it was a followup from the mentality of radio. On a radio show, a character can't just open a door and begin the conversation, because the audience can't see it. They have to open the door and say "hello, I'm home," often with the other characters saying "Why, look, it's XXX." --XXX

That's probly it then. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Suplexing the Couger ==

The Odd thing about that is that I know of no suplex in which the head is downward facing.

All Suplexes I know, involve the heads of both te suplexer and the suplxee to be near to each other when the move is being done.

What stuffed-Strong Bad looks like he's doing is either a piledriver or perhaps a Powerbomb.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 01:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

: Take it from a long-time wrestling fan: what he's doing is indeed a suplex. German suplexes are done differently (with the head right-side up), but that's not what he's doing. Here's how it's done: with the person standing in front of you and facing you, bend them over and put their head under your arm. Grab the waist of their pants with the other arm and lift the person up over your head (they'll be upside down), then pretty much just fall back, making sure to cause as much impact between the other person's back and the ground as possible. This is what stuffed Strong Bad appears to be doing in his pose -- just starting to fall backwards. It's okay if the opponent's head is down by your side instead of by your own head; it's still a suplex. His back will just hit more on your shoulder than the ground. (Sorry if I didn't use proper terminology in this explanation.) -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 06:42, 16 March 2007 (EST)

== Jar Meniscus ==

Hey, should that be a Fun Fact or something? When Strong Sad is carrying Strong Bad (on the Taranchula scene) the meniscus in the water is still angled to the angle of the jar, rather than horizontal like it should. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 01:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:hey thanks, now I know what the word "meniscus" means. But I still don't see what you are talking about here. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:: The water is defying gravity, essentially. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::Ok, I see it now. The liquid should be level with the horizon to obey the laws of physics. I still dunno about "meniscus", that is the salt water tears of many heartbroken private school girls. Supposedly. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::'Meniscus' is just the scientific term for the top of the liquid, rather than what the liquid is. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Wouldn't that be more of a "goof" than a "remark?" [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, it just seems like weird things that should be correct are more likely in trivia or fun facts, but hey, I'm new here. And yes, 'meniscus' is just the very top of the water. i.e. you look at the meniscus in a measuring cup or a test tube, per se, to find out how much is inside it. -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== The Plagues ==

Hordes of locusts and Famine? Isn't this a clear reference to the 10 plagues of Egypt in the first testament/torah? Or am I missing something? Did someone else catch this?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 22:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's what came to mind when I heard it. [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It might be, but those are not actually limited to biblical times: [[wikipedia:1915 locust plague|1915 locust plague]] and [[wikipedia:Famine|famine]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Locusts was one of the 10 plagues, famine was not. There was famine in Egypt, but that was during the time of Joseph, not Moses. The ten plagues were:
:::#Blood
:::#Frogs
:::#Lice
:::#Flies
:::#Animals dying of disease (there's no shorter way to translate it into English)
:::#Boils
:::#Hail and Fire
:::#Locusts
:::#Darkness
:::#Death of the firstborns
:::For more information see [[Wikipedia:Plagues of Egypt]] or, more directly, Exodus 7:14-12:36. But I don't think that by one of them appearing, especially one of the ones that commonly happens, you can say it's a clear reference, I don't think you can even say it's a reference at all. Maybe if it was about one of the less common ones and specifically mentioned all the water turning to blood, or hail that had fire in it, fine. It's like saying that since [[Blood|blood]] appears commonly in the HR universe, it's also a reference to the plagues. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 10:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:This is a reference to the book of Joel which speaks of "Hordes of locusts and Famine", you can read it online here: http://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1401.htm it's just four short chapters, and you only need to read the first one to get the point. [[User:89.139.134.185|89.139.134.185]] 11:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

==Book of Phone==

The first thing that came to mind when he said it that way was the [[Wikipedia: Book of Genesis|Book of Genesis]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:So? It's obvious this is a Bible reference. Which book? There are many. It's [[TTATOT]] or explaining the joke, pick one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Moreover, Genesis usually isn't read at funerals; "Book of Psalms" or "Book of Lamentations" or something else would have fit better. But I think it's really just a broad Bible reference, and not notable. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:It sounds like the book of Job. [[User:Neox|Neox]]

== Reotarded? ==

Hey, is anyone else thinking that Strong Bad is making a portmanteau of "leotard" and "retarded" to insult his brother?[[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

:You're definitely right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::No, he's not. It's open to interpretation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Oh I sooo called this. Phlip, you were there, remember? No, "leotarded" is an actual word. If it was supposed to be a portmanteau, it would have been something more clever. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 12:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Yeah, but does that neccesarily mean it can't be a portmanteau too? I mean, "entrangled" is an actual word, but What I Want says it's a portmanteau. Plus it's a funny idea.
:::::I suggest you get your money back on that dictionary, as "entrangled" is not an English word. That leaves your argument that "it's a funny idea" which should never be a major consideration when considering a notable fact here. We are not here to be funny unless it works out that we can be while we are doing what we are here to do: document the work of TBC. "Entrangled" is simply not found anyplace except as a portmanteau in their work. "Leotarded" is not only a legitimate word, but the possible portmanteau is particularly insensitive, one I doubt TBC would use. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think you're thinking of 'entangled'. Like Qermaq says, 'entrangled' isn't a word. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

''entrangled'': '''adverb''' - in a state of entrang.

''entrang'': '''noun''' - I dunno, I think strongbad just made it up.
:It's simply [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entrangled not a word]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Is a similarity a reference??==

Apparently someone thinks strong bad's COOLogy is similar to some ask a ninja thing about pre-recording your final words. I've never seen AaN (so I could be mistaken), but your final words and your eulogy are not the same thing. Also, more importantly, this section is for REFERENCES, not similarities. Unless there's some particular characteristic that makes you think TBC have seen the AaN in question and were intentionally making a reference to it, this should be removed.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 13:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:Many people have precorded last words. It's likely not a reference to anything (i it were, it'd be TTATOT) so I agree. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree as well. Should it be STUFF'd, do you think? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 23:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say STUFF it, but I don't exactly know how to initiate that...([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 16:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC))
::::[[HRWiki:STUFF/Newpage]] has a step by step walkthrough of how to STUFF. By the way, I personally don't think it's a reference of any type, I just think it's Strong Bad being Strong Bad: creating cool, complex ways for simple, boring things. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I followed the walkthrough and started a STUFF page for it. I think I got it right, but this is my first time...[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 18:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

== Wrong note in Chopin... ==

While Strong Bad has never been renowned for singing in tune, I transcribed his singing into these notes:

C---C---C-C---Eb---D-D---C-C---A-C

Well, I wouldn't expect the Brothers Chaps to know the exact key of the original march, but the notes from the main theme were originally: [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Sonata_No.2_%28Chopin%2C_Frederic%29]

Bb---Bb---Bb-Bb---Db---C-C---Bb-Bb---Bb-Bb

As you can see, the second last interval is changed from a unison (tonic to tonic) to a minor third (submediant to tonic). I suppose it's forgivable, considering that a lot of the cartoon and pop culture references to Chopin's funeral march actually change the second last note to a leading tone (the note right below the tonic), but Strong Bad skips yet another tone down. Anyway, that's my music rant for the day.

~Stapler

:Cool, thanks for the analysis! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pine-a for me-a ==

"Pining" is a reference to [[trevor the vampire]], is it not? I noticed that this was a trivia fact in Trogdor when Strong Bad says "I pine for you!"
: It's just a word. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
: PS. The reason it's mentioned for Trogdor is due to the ''way'' he says it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It has been a while since he's used that phrase, and the way it's said seems to suggest a deliberate reference to his older incarnations. Among other things, the "pine-uh for me-uh" is a somewhat exaggerated way of using his old pseudo-Mexican accent ("I like-a to say, 'Holy crap!'"). Think that's got any merit to it? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taxidoimied... Bugs Bunny reference? ==

When Strong Bad says "taxidoimied," I believe it is a reference to Bugs Bunny, who would quite often mispronounce words the same way by pronouncing the "er" in words as "oi" instead. And I can think of no other place he could've gotten that from. Anyone agree? -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 07:17 PM, March 16, 2007 (EST)
:It could be, but I'm tempted to say no. If it's used in places other than Bugs Bunny (and references of it), then probably not. If you can't find anything, it could be, but I'd wait for more responses. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 23:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Where did Mel Blanc get that manner of speech? It's a Brooklyn accent. People in Brooklyn talk like that to this day. This is definitely not a direct reference to Bugs, as that would be TTATOT. It's just a funny pronunciation based on a well-known accent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Absolutely. That accent existed long before Bugs was around. FWIW, Blanc claimed that he combined Brooklyn and Bronx accents to create the rabbit's voice. --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Absoloitly. Not a reference at oil! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Character Variation/Zombie Bad ==

With the character variation article, there's only the one form of strong bad zombie. I think there should be a second entry to cover the 2046 equivalent. [[User:220.245.178.139|220.245.178.139]] 05:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

:Well, the 2046 version of Strong Bad doesn't look any different than normal Strong Bad, other than that he's wearing tattered jeans, has a brain hat on, and is spitting out grape jelly. I'm pretty sure he's still alive there. So.. I don't really think he needs another entry. But.. that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::Of course he's still alive, he says that he hopes the zombies will still let him join their side. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, it's not a variation. It's a costume and should be listed in [[Strong Bad Other Costumes]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Of course he was alive. His eyes were alive. At the two funerals in the emails, his eyes died and lost their greenness when he died. I'm positive they weren't closed because they still have their gradient and he can see with them. I think that might not even be 2046, just staged. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== 5 boom boxes, 1 tape ==

I can't believe no one else has mentioned this yet, but whats the deal with the 5 boom boxes apparently all playing in PERFECT synchronization. and secondly. that coach z breaks into all of them at the exact same time. That essentially means that he wouldve had to record over the original tape before strong bad made copies of it. Thirdly. only 1 of the 5 boomboxes lets u see the tape. Most if not all tape players let u see the tape, so u can tell if its going or not --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 06:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it be a more simple explanation that he's got all 5 wired together to play off of one of the tape decks off one tape? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::Assuming that those old-style boomboxes could even do such a thing - they werent exactly filled with ports and holes for cross-wiring - they all have the play button pushed down, or are saying "playin'" or something...
:::I have an old boom box from 1982 or so that has two sets each, in and out, of RCA jacks. It certainly wasn't top of the line, either. I used it as speakers for my first CD player, and I had to have Play mashed down for the audio to pass through. --Septyn, 18Mar07
:they all have a pause button though... suspension of disbelief!! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::The wires are behind the boomboxes. Believe me, I checked. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::When you're talking about how the boomboxes are set up, how they were taped over, how they're in sync, etc... Just remember, one of the boomboxes is a ''cardboard box with stuff drawn on it''. Then keep the rest in perspective. Seriously. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Hair? ==

Is that pubic hair on the belly of the guy standing next to the Coughin' with the duck shirt?
:No, I'm sure it's intended to be belly hair — TBC work very hard to keep their toons PG. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::[[Wikipedia:Abdominal hair]] {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to be more scared by, the fact that that page exists, or that you found it and linked it, but its definitely belly hair [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 21:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Echo ==

How can you have an echo in an open field if there is nothing to reflect your voice off of? --18:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You're in the wrong talk page. You want Drive-Thru. And I don't know why. --[[User:Homestar3.14|Homestar3.14]] 18:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taranchula ==

Shouldn't it be mentioned that Taranchula is a direct reference back to [[death metal]]? I mean, that's where they first appeared.
Ya know... when he started saying how he was going to do something different from Chopin, I thought for sure he was going to say Limozeen...
-Zero.exe
:Eh, it kinda goes without saying. And besides, this isn't even the first email that Taranchula has been mentioned in. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 12:35 AM, 24 March 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, actually, Taranchula was mentioned first in the same e-mail Limozeen was. Then again in the montage one (only breifly, their name was seen on a record). --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Mind Your P's and ... P's. ===
{{stufffact|Since P is the 16th letter in the English alphabet, it makes sense for pizza places to be in chapter 16 of the phone book.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)|23:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|18|0|your funeral}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== A Ninja Reference's Last Words?? ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad recording his own Eulogy is similar to an episode of the popular podcast series, Ask a Ninja, in the episode "Last Words", because he asks people to pre-record their final words.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)|05:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|18|0|your funeral}}

== Off the chain/charts. ==

Now that we know what off the hook, off the grid, and off the wagon mean, we should probably show what being off the chain and off the charts mean, right? I mean I noticed that Off the Chain happens to be some band's album. Same thing with Off the Charts. Go to wikipedia and you'll know what I mean. Are they worth being put in the Real-World References section or not?
-[[User: Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]]
:"Off the charts" is a generic phrase meaning something along the lines of "these readings are so high, our instruments cannot measure them". A thermometer that only went to 100 degrees trying to record a 150-degree temperature would read the temperature as "off the charts". Essentially, it's "higher than you can measure". No idea what "off the chain" means, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== 2046 Strong Sad reference? ==

I just noticed a remarkable similarity between the 2046 version of Strong Sad, and his easter-egg action figure in [[action_figure|sbemail 42]]. Does anyone else think this is noteworthy? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm, on second look, maybe the similarity is just in his arms. Meh. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd say it's just the muscular arms. Similar, but not necessarily a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== The End of the... what the heck? ==

Since my {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466929&oldid=465536 reference}} has created much confusion/edit {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466965&oldid=466958 reversal}}, I will post a better explanation here to start/continue the discussion (I'd rather do this before trying to STUFF anything):

The "reference":
:''The phrases "locusts and famine" and "doomsday device" are references to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].''

First, this is how the conversation transpired (note that once "conversations" start in the edit history, it's best to move them to a talk page):
* Stux (Talk | contribs) (→Real-World References - ref to armageddon (so is the zombie uprising in a way, should that be included?), please rephrase as necessary)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (i doubt that, these phrases are too common)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The phrases came from Armageddon originally, didn't they?)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (nope. locusts and famine are mentioned in the bible, doomsday devices appear in a lot of sci-fi)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The biblical Armegaddon? I just want to be sure we're talking about the same thing.)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (undid revision 466958 by Shwoo (Talk) no)

With more careful though, I realized that these are essentially two separate (but related) references:
*The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction.

To be clear, like Shwoo said I was referring to the biblical Armageddon (per the link provided), not the movie. I thought there were several "end of the world" themes that were left out of the discussion. This also includes the mention of "zombie attacks". Most modern zombie movies portray zombies as an infectious being that can turn the entire world into zombies, thus bringing another "doomsday" scenario. I would like to suggest that these three "doomsday" references be combined into one section with three subsections describing each topic. One last thing: the phrase "locusts and famine" does in fact come from the bible: they're two of the disasters mentioned in the book of revelation. What say ye all? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think that there's enough of a connection to warrant a reference. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree. Similar references have been found in other movies and shows. Anywho, I wanted to present a variation of what I thought the fact could look like:
----
*This email makes a few references to the end of the world:
**The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction capable of detroying all life on earth.
----
::Of course I can't think of anything for zombies, as that is a bit more general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think there's that much of a connection for the "locusts and famine" thing. They're both common doomsday scenarios. As for the "doomsday device," that is WAY too general and a little too self-explanatory to be worthy of a reference, in my opinion. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}}

== Zombie Fact ==

Did you know that the zombie effect in Michael Jackson's music video "Thriller", is achieved by the use of grape jelly? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_%28music_video%29#Trivia [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, it's already in the article, ignore me. [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

:Okay! {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 20:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gray eyes? ==

*Both when dead and as a zombie (at the funeral), Stong Bad's eyes look as they did back in the early Tandy emails, just blackish-grey.

Okay, so when I first saw this, my immediate response was, "Wait, Strong Bad's eyes never looked like that." Just to be certain, I went all the way back to [[some kinda robot]] and, sure enough, his eyes were green. Unless all the Tandy emails were edited later so he had green eyes (and I'm not sure why they would have ever been grey in the Tandy emails, seeing as how his eyes were even green in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]), this fact is... well, what's the phrase I'm looking for... not true. Unless there's something I don't know (and if there is, somebody please fill me in), I'm removing this fact pending further discussion. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

:I think it means: They have the ''style'' of the Tandymails (without the 2 little circles in the corner of his eyes), but instead of green they're blackish-gray. --[[User:AlmsforthePudgy|AlmsforthePudgy]] 14:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wow. That really needs a rewording. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wait, no, I take it back... it doesn't really seem noteworthy. If they're not the same color, what's the point in drawing the comparison? {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's Room? ==

The Purple Room in the Easter Egg could be 2046 Strong Sad's Room
:Is it? Last time I read, it was a warehouse.---{{User:Record307/sig}} 00:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::"Could be" means speculation. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:04, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:your funeral

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:18:58 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Too far? */

== 2:03 ==

I think that when Strong Bad mentions that the zombies will come at 2:03 it is a reference to Strong Sad's Lament when he says that Tuesdays at 2:03 is his favorite time.
:- It's possible, but it's a bit of a stretch. Especially since March 31, 2047 falls on a Saturday. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::But the easter egg takes place in ''2046''. In which case March 31 is a Sunday. Either way, it's not Tuesday. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Sad likes Tuesdays at 3:02, not 2:03. [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 02:35, 16 March 2007

== Homestar and Marzipan ==

I'm not sure if it belongs on the wiki, but is it possible that Homestar and Marzipan live with each other? The front of Marzipan's house looks the same, and Homestar's broken Cow lamp may be a different room besides the front. should this be on their relationship page?

:I don't think so. Marzipan's house is blue, as seen in 2003 Halloween toon [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and Homestar is trick or treating at this house. Though Homestar is kinda funny and doesn't think somethings through most of the time, I don't think he would trick or treat at his own home. Homestar's house is gray as seen in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However it could be that this ''is'' the same house and is only colored based on the season (blue because it's night and grey because of the cold snow). [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 16:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::If you look on the pages for [[Homestar's House]] and [[Marzipan's House]], the interior rooms look different, meaning they can't live together. On the other hand, that makes me wonder why he said, "Marzipan, I'm home!" when he doesn't actually live there. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Huh. Maybe that was just Homestar being Homestar and confirming things he doesn't even know about. Kind of like the whole "It's time for tasteball!", "Oh, crap. Tasteball already." bit. 18:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:This scene is Strong Bad's future speculation (after all, he's dead at this point). It's possible that Homestar and Marzipan could be cohabitating at this future time, no? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:In the commentary for [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], TBC said that they didn't want anyone thinking that Homestar and Marzipan live together (or something to that effect). [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Can I help?==
can I help with trying to find some glitches? -[[User:TheDenzel|The Denzel]] 01:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Do whatever you want to help. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== the email is down right now. ==

This probably means it will soon be updated in a way that will be of interest for the 'glitch/trivia' section.[[User:168.156.44.101|168.156.44.101]] 02:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:...uh, no. It's not. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:(if you are getting a 404'd from it, hold down the shift key and hit the reload button) {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 02:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It perhaps wasn't gone for long, I reloaded it SEVERAL during a few minutes when it wouldn't seem to appear.[[User:24.22.145.14|24.22.145.14]] 05:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::This is unremarkable, it happens all the time. It's on your end. You need to clear your cache or force a reload using the aforementioned trick. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Homestar lip dot?==
When Homestar is reading from the phone book, one of the mouth frames has a black dot on it, and shows up whenever that particular frame is up. — [[User:69.105.202.40|69.105.202.40]] ([[User talk:69.105.202.40|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.105.202.40|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

- Check please. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I checked the email. The dot is very small and faint, but it does trully exist. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::frame 2031, it is an error with his eye. when he closes his eyes, one of them does not get fully erased. {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::If it is not noticeable to the viewer except by manipulation, it's not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Too far? ==

O_O Too... i dunno. Definitely not for kids. More PG-13 rated.

[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Uh... Why? Because there's corpses? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 02:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It's all pretty cartoony, expecially how Strong Bad continues to fail staying dead. Strong Bad waking up with an exposed ribcage creeped me out a little, but I wouldn't say the email went too far. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I think they were in danger of going too far, given the rather morbid question, but I have to say they handled it quite nicely. I mean, Homestar reading from the phone book at a eulogy? Genius! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::: Got it! [[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Getting a bit forumy here. Let's keep this page about the content. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:No one ever made the claim that Homestar Runner was a cartoon for children. (In fact, in the email "For kids," Strong Bad is quite opposed to the idea, heh.) I didn't see you complaining when one of the members of Blue Laser got a fork jammed in his eye. Stop taking it so seriously. [[User:0rion|0rion]]
::[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=10241 Read this thread]. I don't know if the person who started this section complained about it, but some people have. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Ummm, I don't know why, but this e-mail creeped me out too. Everybody! is right. I know, I know, I'm weird... Also, my friend was talking to me about this website, and she said it was a family website. 0.o I dunno.--[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 21:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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::I think itsa little creepy, i dont get creeped out like that, but its definatly not in the category of PG-13. I think it should not be seen for girls under the age of 7, and boys under the age of 4. LOL! [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 14:18, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Egg - future SB ==

Are you sure he's a zombie in the egg? When he came out of the jar as a zombie he had black eyes and a visible rib. In the egg it looks like he's just stuck somethng to his head, put on some tattered jeans and is spitting out a mouthful of grape jelly. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. I think he's still alive there.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Which would agree with what he said at the end of the email. How he hoped the zombies would let him be on their side, even though he was alive. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:While I see where you all are coming from, in my opinion, SB acts more like a zombie in the easter egg than in the e-mail. That is, in the e-mail proper, he has complete and full consciousness, while such presumably cannot be said for egg SB. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, he ''acts'' like a zombie, anyone can spit out jelly while saying "Blarg". - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]]
:::I don't exactly follow. It's true that ''anyone'' can spit out jelly and say, "Blarg." My point is that it would be unthinkable, or at least improbable, that a zombie would speak coherently and recognize people, as Strong Bad does when he breaks out of the jar. I was merely pointing out that easter egg SB seems more zombie-esque (by merit of being less human-esque) than he does in the e-mail itself. It also seems likely that he's just pretending to be a zombie, as this is hinted at in the end of the e-mail. So, in my opinion, he's not really a zombie in either scenario. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 19:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::It's kinda hard to just be ''pretending'' your a zombie when your skin is tattered and rotting and your ribcage is exposed. I see your point, and it's valid, but it still doesn't justify why he'd still be alive when he breaks out of the jar. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 7:04 PM, March 18, 2007 (EST)

== References in future characters? ==

Do you think Future Pom Pom and Future Strong Sad are references in themselves? Future Pom Pom looks a lot like Duke Nukem... — [[User:68.44.220.232|68.44.220.232]] ([[User talk:68.44.220.232|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.44.220.232|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])
:By their faces, beards, cigars, and ammo belts, I am willing to wager that it is a reference to the Contra series of video games and the 2 main chracters from the original game in that series. See the picture located [http://www.racketboy.com/retro/contra-arcade.jpg here] for confirmation purposes.~[[User:DanZero|DanZero]] 06:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Interesting — I wonder if there's a closer reference though, only because Contra doesn't have anything like zombies in it. Or maybe it's just a general reference to that style of gritty '80s action hero... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Sure does seem to look a lot like contra... hard to piece together why they'd use that tho. other than the fact that it was like the best game ever --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 07:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I just thought they were the archetype of futuristic survivors. I didn't see a particular reference, it's endemic to the genre. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::I thought Strong Sad was a bit reminiscent of Snake Plissken from the film "Escape From New York", but it might just be me. [[User:Klarsh|Klarsh]] 16:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Not sure how relevant it is, but am I alone in thinking there are similarities between future Strong Sad and the Strong Sad action figure? -Xerzes, who hasn't done this enough to remember how to make the sig and timestamp happen.

::My first impression was that Pom Pom looked like Cable from the X-Men animated series but it's been a while since I've seen that. An X-Men connection could explain the Doomsday device though, which was created to kill all the mutants (or in this case, zombies). Then again, post-apocalyptic scenarios with cigars and doomsday devices are pretty common! [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 12:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:::It's probably just TTATOT, seeing how many references we've been able to come up with. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

== screaming yellow ==

Is there any evidence that this is really a reference to the candy, and not say, to the car? Either seems pretty much arbitrary to me. Perhaps the candy is a bit more in "TBC style" as far as references go (so retro). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: But TBC didn't make the reference... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::yes, of course, since this is in the body of the email received, it should be assumed that TBC are refering to nothing at all, and it's simply word for word the email they received. At any rate, it feels like speculation to me. Though, there are only 2 or 3 things in the popular lexicon that I can imagine the author of the email intended. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it was a faulty reference to Dripping Yellow Madness. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 05:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Although I have no problems in keeping the reference out (since any reference made by a fan is borderline as it is), I don't think it's a matter of [[TTATOT]]. I'm almost certain that it's a reference to Screamin' Yellow Zonkers. If this gets taken to a vote, I'll green light it, but as of right now, I have no problems with it being left out. - [[User:0rion|0rion]]
Removed as speculation, we have no idea what the author intended and there is more than one
possiblity {{User:Bryanc/sig}}:
<blockquote>*'Screaming Yellow Strong Bad' is presumably a reference to the snack food [[Wikipedia:Screaming Yellow Zonkers|Screaming Yellow Zonkers]].</blockquote>
Ideas in the email itself are not TBC created, and as such are not notable references in nearly all cases. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: I think they should have continued the joke...I mean, Screaming Yellow Zonkers? Screaming Yellow Zombie? I'm not sayings it's comedic gold,like commas, but it's definitely the same style humor as this website. ~ Shadix

In my mind, I thought it was a reference to [[Unseen Characters|Dripping Yellow Madness]] from [[Cool Things]], but since it was part of the e-mail rather than something that's within the toon inself, I didn't bother mentioning anything. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 15:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Vocal Effect ==

What effect did they put on Strong bads Voice when he was "zombiefied" its Awesome, and being the Avant-Garde Musician, it would help a lot (music wise). Thanks.

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i think it's an allusion to what happens to the character "jordy" (played by stephen king) in the movie creepshow. the undead jordy sounds just like the undead strong bad.

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Awesome, ill read up on that. now i need to find out how to replicate it ^^

FWIW, it's used in the movie "Creepshow" AGAIN as the vocal effect on the dead father in "Father's Day"...

: Months late and dollars short, but it's a question worth answering in case the asker ever looks again. You can probably achieve this effect or something very similar to it with extreme settings on a [[Wikipedia:Flanging|flanger]]. Sounds like a modulation frequency of at least 15 Hz and probably zero feedback, but I can't guess at the modulation depth or wet/dry mix without experimentation. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Passion Reference?? ==

Am I the only one who sees a ridiculous amount of Passion of the Christ references? Strong Sad carrying the jar like the cross while being whipped, Strong Bad's exposed ribcage, references to the repeatedly changed day of prophecy that the souls of the dead will come back as zombies and attack the living? Am I crazy or just the only one morbid enough to see it?
*You're crazy and unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: Ah, very good then. Thought: Baleeted.
::And you're still unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The first two I could kind of understand, though I would call them more coincidental. The last one makes no sense: when in Mel Gibson's film did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed day of a prophecy that souls of the dead will come back and attack the living? [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:Never seen the movie, but when in ''this email'' did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed date that souls of the dead would come back? Strong Bad didn't change the date of the zombie revolution; he just got more and more specific as to the time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Does the whipping thing reference ''anything''? it seems like it should... --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:No, it's just a poke at slavery. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 18:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== 2046? 20X6? ==

Could this be a reference? I know it means that 2046 is NOT 20X6 (as the characters look completely different from their 20X6 forms) but could the similarity of the years be a reference? You know, a nudge from TBC, baiting us, telling us "Hey, here's one that it's NOT, good luck figuring out which one it IS." [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think that 20X6 is actually one year, or else last year would also be 20X6. When Sam (from Concord, California) who asked the e-mail in [[time capsule]] said it would be opened in X0 years, I think Strong Bad took X0 as an actual way to calculate time in years. {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::That does not directly address the question I brought up in any way. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the year "2046" often used in some comicbooks to depict a future alternate reality? I know there's a movie called [[Wikipedia:2046 (film)|2046]], but I don't recall zombies in that. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 14:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I think you're talking about 2099. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
:Well, I know I looked on the back of a really old Metroid game box in a computer store and it said "In the year 20X5..." -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 22:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, you guys. Have a look at the intro paragraph of [[20X6]] ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fourth wall Break? ==

Marzipan just leaned over the edge of the left side of the frame. Is this a fourth wall break? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:You're joking right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 13:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Don't be mean. Now, I can see what you're trying to say. If she physically manipulated the frame (which we wouldn't be able to see anyway), THEN it would be a fourth wall break. As far as we're concerned, it's like someone leaning away from they're cooking to talk to their relative, or something. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 14:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh thanks for your help Bryanc. B-( {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 19:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I did not mean to be rude, I'm very sorry I came across that way. But this is not close to what a break in the theatrical 4th wall means. A "fourth wall" break is when the actors acknowledge that they are actors. It was to be somewhat jarring, like out of nowhere Strong Sad looks into the camera and says "Hello!". That is breaking 4th wall. It's toyed with a lot and the lines are blurred here. Which makes it a little difficult to say what and what.
{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

==Addendum==

An addendum is "something added or to be added, especially a supplement to a book". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's nice to know. go ahead and put it under the "Explanations" sectionor the remarks section. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno — do we usually list definitions of words under Explanations, unless it has something to do with the context of the toon? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Breaking References??==
I'm against listing "So Cold" by Breaking Benjamin as a reference for the funeral procession. I just watched the video again on Youtube, and there's nothing there to link it as a reference, beyond the fact that they're both funeral processions, which is far from unique. At the very least, I think the wording should be changed, "oddly reminiscent" is too vague and seems to me to be an admission that it's not really a reference. Either re-word it into a definite, specific reference or get rid of it completely. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's a reference either. I say, go ahead and remove it, and if anyone thinks it should stay they can STUFF it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Bibendum image ==

The Bibendum easter egg isn't just a Michelin reference, it's a direct reference to [http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Le-Pneu-Michelin-Nunc-Est-Bibendum-Giclee-Print-C12046037.jpeg this classic ad]. According to [[Wikipedia:Michelin#Bibendum|Wikipedia]], which provides a translation of the ad's text, the name of the mascot (which is Latin for "to drink") originated with this ad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 19:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, good find — you're right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Good job. you can go ahead and put that on the page WITH the picture.
:Waaait a second there, man. "bibendum" is a gerund, so it just means "drinking" (in its use as a noun, not a verb or adjective, e.g. "Drinking is fun").
::The image is clearly a reference to the ad, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Newlydead ==
When Strong Bad said 'newlydead', do you think he was making a play on 'newlywed'? I know it doesn't really fit the context, but just by the way it sounds...maybe not....--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I'd say that's probably where he derived the word. Typical Strong Bad coinage, I'd say. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Count me in too. An easy pun Strong Bad would say. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. Very yes. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 21:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Chaup au Fan? ==

What is a "Chaup au Fan"? If anyone knows, this should be added to Explanations. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:It sounds like very poor and broken French. Literally, I think it would be "[Nonexistent word] to the fan[as in, a Homestar fan, not a fan which would move air]." Perhaps by « Chaup » they were trying to make "Chap" sound more French? Thus, the image was created by the Chaps for a fan? Chaup could be a French word, I'm not certain (I'm only in fifth-year French), but it's not one I've ever heard, nor can I find it in my dictionary. Oh, and by the way, the pronunciation (following the IPA standards) would probably be something like: ʃop o fɑ̃ [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

::While I appreciate the linguistic exploration (I do love those), I'm assuming it must actually mean something. It's unlike TBC to include something like this which is made up out of whole cloth. There's gotta be a meaning to this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:::True; "From the Chaps, for a fan" would be my best guess at the actual meaning, but who knows. Again, maybe they just wanted to make it look French, Michelin being a French company. I'll look into the issue further.[[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:I may be completely crazy, but it seems to me to be similar to the way Strong Sad produces "Chaparone" in senior prom. Anyone? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's just Strong Sad's (quite good) French accent that makes them sound similiar. And I favor an explantion of what this term means by someone who knows as I've been able to find nothing about it. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::: It's pretty much just nonsense. There's a "translation" up there ^ a few lines, but it's just telling you that what Strong Sad's saying doesn't make sense. I've taken four years of French and I can tell you thatit's garbage. Pure garbage, sister. Also, I feel that SS's accent leaves much to be desired... he overdoes it on many an occasion. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Apparently at this point we're confident that "Chaup au Fan" is simply gibberish. While saying that, and noting the relation to dance terms as the context of the toon supports, are notable, the speculative meanings are just that, and as such I will remove them from the article and note them in this thread.

:*The way it's initially said by Strong Bad and Strong Sad sounds like a mispronunciation of "coq au vin," which is chicken in wine sauce, a popular French dish. It might also be an intentional misspelling (to seem even more French) of the term "chapeau fan," which would literally translate as a "fan hat" (e.g. a baseball cap pertaining to a favorite team).

::::{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Put him in a jar? ==

I don't hear "put him in a jar," but rather "brother in a jar." Anyone else? -just a random newb

Actually, I thought it sounded like "funeral in a jar" [[User:63.165.156.213|63.165.156.213]] 23:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

not enough syllables. speaking of, when they say it the third time, and also in the easter egg, they run the words together, so it's more like "puteminajar". does anyone else think this should be indicated in the transcript? [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:I definitely heard brother on a second viewing. Also, it could be "fun'ral," so syllables aren't an issue. Could we maybe get a vote? I cast my vote... '''BROTHER'''-wards! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:It doesn't sound like "brother" to me. There's no r sound. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 06:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I definitely heard "put him" (I was the transcriber.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I hear "brother in a jar". -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 01:45, 16 March 2007 (CST)
::::I also definitely hear "put him".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::While I'm not sure exactly what it says, I am pretty certain that I hear neither "brother in a jar" nor "put him in a jar." I've listened to it over and over again, and instead of "in," it sounds like it's saying "for," though I have not been able to come up with a wording for the sentence in which that would make sense. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 03:11, 16 March 2007 (EST)
:I watched it three times this week and heard "Brother in a jar." I also thought "fall back" was "Pom Bag" and that it was supposed to be 2046 Pom Pom's name. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::I hear "Put him in a jar" [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 17:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::My best guess is "Pull him from the jar". I definitely hear it starting with "P" sound, and I'm pretty sure about the "f" sound ("from" or maybe "for") and "the jar" instead of "a jar". Maybe the second word is "it" instead of "him". But maybe we'd better just wait til they release it as a quote. I hope they do! -another random newb, 22:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, your guess sounds a lot closer.

Should we add a footnote to the transcript? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:We don't usually do that when we're unsure.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::I found similar footnotes in [[boring (really)]] and [[candy product]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The footnote is useful when there is no consensus, or equal consensus for different options. In this case I don't really know if there us consesnus, but I'm personally happy to allow the footnote to remain as proposed while discussion ensues. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I watched it several times, and I always heard "put him in a jar". Well, more like "puteminajar", as Neumannz said. It also makes more sense. I can't see "brother in a jar" being relevant, and about "funeral in a jar", the funeral isn't in the jar. It's in.. wherever the funeral is. But that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

:I hear "put him in a jar" too, which makes the most sense, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I can only hear "put him in a jar". ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 23:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC))

Well, now that the Quote of the Week says "brother" instead of "put him", I may suggest every single change to the transcript and subtitles once again. Man, same issue with Marzipan's word booty. Anyway, I'm only visiting, and then I'm leaving again. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, that goes without saying. We don't really need to be reminded to make those changes. (He's talking about [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-22|this quote]], by the way.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yay, I got it! And some others, but not the majority, got it too! [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
:High fives all around! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 03:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yay! -just the random newb who started all of this
:::The QotW says "brother in a jar", but I hear "put him in a jar". Ignore the "User:". [[User:Neox]]

== Coach Z 1234 Beat ==

The beat in Strong Bad's funeral kind of sounds like the #1 hit: [[These Peoples Try To Fade Me]] -{{User:Viklas/sig}}

:Sounded more like Another One Bites The Dust to me... [[User:74.119.23.212|74.119.23.212]] 00:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:TTAOT, it sounded like a generic rap to me. Which could sound like a lot of raps. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== World War Z ==

This is really just idle speculation, but has anyone hear ever read World War Z? It's a story about what would happen if Zombies really did attack humanity within the next 30-40 years. I'm pretty sure that TBC hasn't even heard of the book, but still, I feel like this deserves a minor refrence due to the similarities, like here, on the talk page. Also, could Screaming Yellow be a reference to Kyle the Yellow Dart Smith? Again, idle speculation
:Actually, I was more apt to believe the zombie references in this email have to do with the horror/sci-fi genre of video games and movies, like Resident Evil and the like. But that's already starting down the TTATOT path. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::'''NEVER''' use my name in vain. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:There's also a book called ''The Zombie Survival Guide'', and probably countless others in the same strain. You could never have a reference, it's just TTATOT. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::How coincidental. I was reading both those books just today. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::It was probably a reference to "Dripping Yellow Madness." [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think the zombie uprising was a reference to anything in particular, because that's been used in a lot of different stories/movies/whatever. And I'm really not sure what Screaming Yellow was a reference to, but since it was from the fan, they could be just writing random words or something to make it sound funny. Who knows?
::::Also, what's TTATOT mean? {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 21:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::See [[TTATOT]]: "'This That And The Other Thing.' Applicable when a reference in a toon could refer to one of many similar things. The rule of thumb is that if it could apply to several things, it probably refers to nothing in particular."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== Same? ==

Is Strong Sad really saying the same thing that his Bibendum advert has written out? It sounds more like he's saying chapon fond, chape en front, chape en fan, or even chapeau fort, more than Chaup au fan. Unless he just has horrible French pronunciation. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:There's no copy in that ad which would be reasonably mispronounced by a moderately-educated person as "Chap au fan" - and this is TBC we're talking about. This is clearly something but what? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:Just a wild shot in the dark, but we are talking about the Chap brothers' website, right?

:I'm pretty sure he is indeed saying the same thing as the text in the ad, but there might be an off chance it's "something enfant". Perhaps "Chaps enfant" meaning that Strong Bad is a (brain)child of the Brothers Chaps. It's a bit of a stretch, and I think in proper French the "s" at the end of "Chaps" would be pronounced at the beginning of "enfant" anyway. Just a thought. - {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:Strong Sad's pronuciation in French is, whenever he's done it before, quite good. It would be out of character if he were screwing this up. Any dancers out there? I really would like to know what Monsieur Sad is referring to. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a ballroom dancer. I think what Strong Sad is saying is "chassé font" (pronounced more or less like what Strong Sad said, like "schahs auh faunt") which is a move we use in ballroom to mean a long step forward, followed by sliding the other foot to neutral position again. In other words, extend the first (usually right) leg like a lady's lunge in tango, then slide the other foot back, the foot ending sideways. Does that make sense? The only problem I see is that isn't really a flashy move, so why would SS want to show it off? [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

::Is that how it's pronounced in ballroom dancing terms? Because in French, it would be pronounced more like "shahs say fon(with a nasal 't' suggested at the end)." [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::I don't speak a word of French, so I'm probably entirely inaccurate in the pronunciation. My ballroom teacher is from Wisconsin, so that probably influences the accent a bit ;) [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]
:::I think you mean a nasal "n" sound. The t is silent. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::That's why I said it was suggested at the end; the nasalization of the "n" suggests a "t" afterwards. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::::Oh. That's kinda weird, but okay, I guess. Really, though, the nasal n could suggest other letters, so I would have just said that, but hey, whatever floats your boat. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 13:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::One thing I also thought of, silly as it may be: this may also link to SB's comment about a "chappy thong." Reason being is if you aren't used to moving correctly, certain garments like to wedge themselves in uncomfortable places. [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

== Phone Book ==

Anyone else notice that this is the second email in a row to refer to a phone book? The last has Homestar mentioning that the "real money is in" phone books, and this one has has the reading from the "book of phone." Is this, perhaps, setting itself up as another running gag? Or, more interestingly, might it somehow be tied into the recent DNA references? --left unsigned

:Hm -- I think it's a coincidence. Much like the [[Talk:unnatural#Chocolate cake again! I said chocolate cake again!|chocolate cake]] reference in [[unnatural]], there's nothing else that ties it to the previous appearance... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:We'll see if it comes up again next email [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

::Yeah, probably just a coincidence. But I still think the chocolate cake thing was anything but coincidental.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 11:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Mycology and Leonard part 6 ==

the tape in the boOOMmbox says my c00logy, which is much like mycology, the study of fungi. fungi eat dead people. fungi probably are eating dead strong bad.<s> fun fact?</s> notable? prolly. also, the reference to leotards being part of a weapon is reminescent of Leonard part 6. {{User:Csours/sig}} 17:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's notable. He's just emphasizing how COOL his eulogy is. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 17:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed. (And it probably needs adding to [[Portmanteaus]]. I'll go do that now...) {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::: <strike>Just another thought- should it go in [[Internet Slang]] too? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)</strike>
::::...actually, now that I look at it, it's COOLogy rather than c00logy, so discount that.{{User:Kahteh/sig}} 22:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's notable to point out that this webpage may be the only webpage in existence that refers to both The Passion and Leonard Part 6
:::::[http://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=3fc&q=%22Passion%20of%20the%20Christ%22%20%22Leonard%20Part%206%22&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=iw That's simply not true.] --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fixed it? ==

I re-watched the e-mail again, and it looks like that when he says "funeral's" he actually types funeral's now.

== "Marizipan i'm home!" ==

I can't think what, but I'm sure this is a parody on something, there was a TV show where sombody said "*Someone* I'm home!" in very similar mannor... [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 21:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:It's basically a cliche by now... It was done a lot in those '50s shows. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe "Lucy, I'm home!"? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 22:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:It was such a cliche on black and white tv shows that there was a truly terrible television show, a parody (though really stretching the definition of the word) made for Nick at Nite in the late early '90's named after it. (I can't believe that they actually made a wiki article about it, but yeah, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi_Honey%2C_I%27m_Home "Hi Honey I'm Home."] People have explained the cliche as that it was a followup from the mentality of radio. On a radio show, a character can't just open a door and begin the conversation, because the audience can't see it. They have to open the door and say "hello, I'm home," often with the other characters saying "Why, look, it's XXX." --XXX

That's probly it then. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Suplexing the Couger ==

The Odd thing about that is that I know of no suplex in which the head is downward facing.

All Suplexes I know, involve the heads of both te suplexer and the suplxee to be near to each other when the move is being done.

What stuffed-Strong Bad looks like he's doing is either a piledriver or perhaps a Powerbomb.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 01:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

: Take it from a long-time wrestling fan: what he's doing is indeed a suplex. German suplexes are done differently (with the head right-side up), but that's not what he's doing. Here's how it's done: with the person standing in front of you and facing you, bend them over and put their head under your arm. Grab the waist of their pants with the other arm and lift the person up over your head (they'll be upside down), then pretty much just fall back, making sure to cause as much impact between the other person's back and the ground as possible. This is what stuffed Strong Bad appears to be doing in his pose -- just starting to fall backwards. It's okay if the opponent's head is down by your side instead of by your own head; it's still a suplex. His back will just hit more on your shoulder than the ground. (Sorry if I didn't use proper terminology in this explanation.) -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 06:42, 16 March 2007 (EST)

== Jar Meniscus ==

Hey, should that be a Fun Fact or something? When Strong Sad is carrying Strong Bad (on the Taranchula scene) the meniscus in the water is still angled to the angle of the jar, rather than horizontal like it should. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 01:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:hey thanks, now I know what the word "meniscus" means. But I still don't see what you are talking about here. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:: The water is defying gravity, essentially. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::Ok, I see it now. The liquid should be level with the horizon to obey the laws of physics. I still dunno about "meniscus", that is the salt water tears of many heartbroken private school girls. Supposedly. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::'Meniscus' is just the scientific term for the top of the liquid, rather than what the liquid is. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Wouldn't that be more of a "goof" than a "remark?" [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, it just seems like weird things that should be correct are more likely in trivia or fun facts, but hey, I'm new here. And yes, 'meniscus' is just the very top of the water. i.e. you look at the meniscus in a measuring cup or a test tube, per se, to find out how much is inside it. -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== The Plagues ==

Hordes of locusts and Famine? Isn't this a clear reference to the 10 plagues of Egypt in the first testament/torah? Or am I missing something? Did someone else catch this?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 22:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's what came to mind when I heard it. [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It might be, but those are not actually limited to biblical times: [[wikipedia:1915 locust plague|1915 locust plague]] and [[wikipedia:Famine|famine]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Locusts was one of the 10 plagues, famine was not. There was famine in Egypt, but that was during the time of Joseph, not Moses. The ten plagues were:
:::#Blood
:::#Frogs
:::#Lice
:::#Flies
:::#Animals dying of disease (there's no shorter way to translate it into English)
:::#Boils
:::#Hail and Fire
:::#Locusts
:::#Darkness
:::#Death of the firstborns
:::For more information see [[Wikipedia:Plagues of Egypt]] or, more directly, Exodus 7:14-12:36. But I don't think that by one of them appearing, especially one of the ones that commonly happens, you can say it's a clear reference, I don't think you can even say it's a reference at all. Maybe if it was about one of the less common ones and specifically mentioned all the water turning to blood, or hail that had fire in it, fine. It's like saying that since [[Blood|blood]] appears commonly in the HR universe, it's also a reference to the plagues. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 10:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:This is a reference to the book of Joel which speaks of "Hordes of locusts and Famine", you can read it online here: http://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1401.htm it's just four short chapters, and you only need to read the first one to get the point. [[User:89.139.134.185|89.139.134.185]] 11:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

==Book of Phone==

The first thing that came to mind when he said it that way was the [[Wikipedia: Book of Genesis|Book of Genesis]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:So? It's obvious this is a Bible reference. Which book? There are many. It's [[TTATOT]] or explaining the joke, pick one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Moreover, Genesis usually isn't read at funerals; "Book of Psalms" or "Book of Lamentations" or something else would have fit better. But I think it's really just a broad Bible reference, and not notable. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:It sounds like the book of Job. [[User:Neox|Neox]]

== Reotarded? ==

Hey, is anyone else thinking that Strong Bad is making a portmanteau of "leotard" and "retarded" to insult his brother?[[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

:You're definitely right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::No, he's not. It's open to interpretation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Oh I sooo called this. Phlip, you were there, remember? No, "leotarded" is an actual word. If it was supposed to be a portmanteau, it would have been something more clever. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 12:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Yeah, but does that neccesarily mean it can't be a portmanteau too? I mean, "entrangled" is an actual word, but What I Want says it's a portmanteau. Plus it's a funny idea.
:::::I suggest you get your money back on that dictionary, as "entrangled" is not an English word. That leaves your argument that "it's a funny idea" which should never be a major consideration when considering a notable fact here. We are not here to be funny unless it works out that we can be while we are doing what we are here to do: document the work of TBC. "Entrangled" is simply not found anyplace except as a portmanteau in their work. "Leotarded" is not only a legitimate word, but the possible portmanteau is particularly insensitive, one I doubt TBC would use. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think you're thinking of 'entangled'. Like Qermaq says, 'entrangled' isn't a word. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

''entrangled'': '''adverb''' - in a state of entrang.

''entrang'': '''noun''' - I dunno, I think strongbad just made it up.
:It's simply [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entrangled not a word]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Is a similarity a reference??==

Apparently someone thinks strong bad's COOLogy is similar to some ask a ninja thing about pre-recording your final words. I've never seen AaN (so I could be mistaken), but your final words and your eulogy are not the same thing. Also, more importantly, this section is for REFERENCES, not similarities. Unless there's some particular characteristic that makes you think TBC have seen the AaN in question and were intentionally making a reference to it, this should be removed.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 13:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:Many people have precorded last words. It's likely not a reference to anything (i it were, it'd be TTATOT) so I agree. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree as well. Should it be STUFF'd, do you think? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 23:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say STUFF it, but I don't exactly know how to initiate that...([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 16:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC))
::::[[HRWiki:STUFF/Newpage]] has a step by step walkthrough of how to STUFF. By the way, I personally don't think it's a reference of any type, I just think it's Strong Bad being Strong Bad: creating cool, complex ways for simple, boring things. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I followed the walkthrough and started a STUFF page for it. I think I got it right, but this is my first time...[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 18:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

== Wrong note in Chopin... ==

While Strong Bad has never been renowned for singing in tune, I transcribed his singing into these notes:

C---C---C-C---Eb---D-D---C-C---A-C

Well, I wouldn't expect the Brothers Chaps to know the exact key of the original march, but the notes from the main theme were originally: [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Sonata_No.2_%28Chopin%2C_Frederic%29]

Bb---Bb---Bb-Bb---Db---C-C---Bb-Bb---Bb-Bb

As you can see, the second last interval is changed from a unison (tonic to tonic) to a minor third (submediant to tonic). I suppose it's forgivable, considering that a lot of the cartoon and pop culture references to Chopin's funeral march actually change the second last note to a leading tone (the note right below the tonic), but Strong Bad skips yet another tone down. Anyway, that's my music rant for the day.

~Stapler

:Cool, thanks for the analysis! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pine-a for me-a ==

"Pining" is a reference to [[trevor the vampire]], is it not? I noticed that this was a trivia fact in Trogdor when Strong Bad says "I pine for you!"
: It's just a word. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
: PS. The reason it's mentioned for Trogdor is due to the ''way'' he says it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It has been a while since he's used that phrase, and the way it's said seems to suggest a deliberate reference to his older incarnations. Among other things, the "pine-uh for me-uh" is a somewhat exaggerated way of using his old pseudo-Mexican accent ("I like-a to say, 'Holy crap!'"). Think that's got any merit to it? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taxidoimied... Bugs Bunny reference? ==

When Strong Bad says "taxidoimied," I believe it is a reference to Bugs Bunny, who would quite often mispronounce words the same way by pronouncing the "er" in words as "oi" instead. And I can think of no other place he could've gotten that from. Anyone agree? -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 07:17 PM, March 16, 2007 (EST)
:It could be, but I'm tempted to say no. If it's used in places other than Bugs Bunny (and references of it), then probably not. If you can't find anything, it could be, but I'd wait for more responses. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 23:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Where did Mel Blanc get that manner of speech? It's a Brooklyn accent. People in Brooklyn talk like that to this day. This is definitely not a direct reference to Bugs, as that would be TTATOT. It's just a funny pronunciation based on a well-known accent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Absolutely. That accent existed long before Bugs was around. FWIW, Blanc claimed that he combined Brooklyn and Bronx accents to create the rabbit's voice. --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Absoloitly. Not a reference at oil! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Character Variation/Zombie Bad ==

With the character variation article, there's only the one form of strong bad zombie. I think there should be a second entry to cover the 2046 equivalent. [[User:220.245.178.139|220.245.178.139]] 05:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

:Well, the 2046 version of Strong Bad doesn't look any different than normal Strong Bad, other than that he's wearing tattered jeans, has a brain hat on, and is spitting out grape jelly. I'm pretty sure he's still alive there. So.. I don't really think he needs another entry. But.. that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::Of course he's still alive, he says that he hopes the zombies will still let him join their side. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, it's not a variation. It's a costume and should be listed in [[Strong Bad Other Costumes]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Of course he was alive. His eyes were alive. At the two funerals in the emails, his eyes died and lost their greenness when he died. I'm positive they weren't closed because they still have their gradient and he can see with them. I think that might not even be 2046, just staged. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== 5 boom boxes, 1 tape ==

I can't believe no one else has mentioned this yet, but whats the deal with the 5 boom boxes apparently all playing in PERFECT synchronization. and secondly. that coach z breaks into all of them at the exact same time. That essentially means that he wouldve had to record over the original tape before strong bad made copies of it. Thirdly. only 1 of the 5 boomboxes lets u see the tape. Most if not all tape players let u see the tape, so u can tell if its going or not --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 06:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it be a more simple explanation that he's got all 5 wired together to play off of one of the tape decks off one tape? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::Assuming that those old-style boomboxes could even do such a thing - they werent exactly filled with ports and holes for cross-wiring - they all have the play button pushed down, or are saying "playin'" or something...
:::I have an old boom box from 1982 or so that has two sets each, in and out, of RCA jacks. It certainly wasn't top of the line, either. I used it as speakers for my first CD player, and I had to have Play mashed down for the audio to pass through. --Septyn, 18Mar07
:they all have a pause button though... suspension of disbelief!! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::The wires are behind the boomboxes. Believe me, I checked. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::When you're talking about how the boomboxes are set up, how they were taped over, how they're in sync, etc... Just remember, one of the boomboxes is a ''cardboard box with stuff drawn on it''. Then keep the rest in perspective. Seriously. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Hair? ==

Is that pubic hair on the belly of the guy standing next to the Coughin' with the duck shirt?
:No, I'm sure it's intended to be belly hair — TBC work very hard to keep their toons PG. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::[[Wikipedia:Abdominal hair]] {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to be more scared by, the fact that that page exists, or that you found it and linked it, but its definitely belly hair [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 21:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Echo ==

How can you have an echo in an open field if there is nothing to reflect your voice off of? --18:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You're in the wrong talk page. You want Drive-Thru. And I don't know why. --[[User:Homestar3.14|Homestar3.14]] 18:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taranchula ==

Shouldn't it be mentioned that Taranchula is a direct reference back to [[death metal]]? I mean, that's where they first appeared.
Ya know... when he started saying how he was going to do something different from Chopin, I thought for sure he was going to say Limozeen...
-Zero.exe
:Eh, it kinda goes without saying. And besides, this isn't even the first email that Taranchula has been mentioned in. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 12:35 AM, 24 March 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, actually, Taranchula was mentioned first in the same e-mail Limozeen was. Then again in the montage one (only breifly, their name was seen on a record). --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

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=== Mind Your P's and ... P's. ===
{{stufffact|Since P is the 16th letter in the English alphabet, it makes sense for pizza places to be in chapter 16 of the phone book.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)|23:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|18|0|your funeral}}

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=== A Ninja Reference's Last Words?? ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad recording his own Eulogy is similar to an episode of the popular podcast series, Ask a Ninja, in the episode "Last Words", because he asks people to pre-record their final words.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)|05:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|18|0|your funeral}}

== Off the chain/charts. ==

Now that we know what off the hook, off the grid, and off the wagon mean, we should probably show what being off the chain and off the charts mean, right? I mean I noticed that Off the Chain happens to be some band's album. Same thing with Off the Charts. Go to wikipedia and you'll know what I mean. Are they worth being put in the Real-World References section or not?
-[[User: Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]]
:"Off the charts" is a generic phrase meaning something along the lines of "these readings are so high, our instruments cannot measure them". A thermometer that only went to 100 degrees trying to record a 150-degree temperature would read the temperature as "off the charts". Essentially, it's "higher than you can measure". No idea what "off the chain" means, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== 2046 Strong Sad reference? ==

I just noticed a remarkable similarity between the 2046 version of Strong Sad, and his easter-egg action figure in [[action_figure|sbemail 42]]. Does anyone else think this is noteworthy? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm, on second look, maybe the similarity is just in his arms. Meh. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 05:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd say it's just the muscular arms. Similar, but not necessarily a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== The End of the... what the heck? ==

Since my {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466929&oldid=465536 reference}} has created much confusion/edit {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=your_funeral&diff=466965&oldid=466958 reversal}}, I will post a better explanation here to start/continue the discussion (I'd rather do this before trying to STUFF anything):

The "reference":
:''The phrases "locusts and famine" and "doomsday device" are references to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].''

First, this is how the conversation transpired (note that once "conversations" start in the edit history, it's best to move them to a talk page):
* Stux (Talk | contribs) (→Real-World References - ref to armageddon (so is the zombie uprising in a way, should that be included?), please rephrase as necessary)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (i doubt that, these phrases are too common)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The phrases came from Armageddon originally, didn't they?)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (nope. locusts and famine are mentioned in the bible, doomsday devices appear in a lot of sci-fi)
* Shwoo (Talk | contribs) (The biblical Armegaddon? I just want to be sure we're talking about the same thing.)
* DeFender1031 (Talk | contribs) (undid revision 466958 by Shwoo (Talk) no)

With more careful though, I realized that these are essentially two separate (but related) references:
*The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction.

To be clear, like Shwoo said I was referring to the biblical Armageddon (per the link provided), not the movie. I thought there were several "end of the world" themes that were left out of the discussion. This also includes the mention of "zombie attacks". Most modern zombie movies portray zombies as an infectious being that can turn the entire world into zombies, thus bringing another "doomsday" scenario. I would like to suggest that these three "doomsday" references be combined into one section with three subsections describing each topic. One last thing: the phrase "locusts and famine" does in fact come from the bible: they're two of the disasters mentioned in the book of revelation. What say ye all? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think that there's enough of a connection to warrant a reference. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree. Similar references have been found in other movies and shows. Anywho, I wanted to present a variation of what I thought the fact could look like:
----
*This email makes a few references to the end of the world:
**The phrases "locusts and famine" refers to [[Wikipedia:Armageddon|Armageddon]].
**The phrase "[[Wikipedia:Doomsday device|doomsday device]]" is a fictional weapon used in science fiction capable of detroying all life on earth.
----
::Of course I can't think of anything for zombies, as that is a bit more general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think there's that much of a connection for the "locusts and famine" thing. They're both common doomsday scenarios. As for the "doomsday device," that is WAY too general and a little too self-explanatory to be worthy of a reference, in my opinion. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}}

== Zombie Fact ==

Did you know that the zombie effect in Michael Jackson's music video "Thriller", is achieved by the use of grape jelly? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_%28music_video%29#Trivia [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, it's already in the article, ignore me. [[User:67.42.101.56|67.42.101.56]] 19:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

:Okay! {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 20:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gray eyes? ==

*Both when dead and as a zombie (at the funeral), Stong Bad's eyes look as they did back in the early Tandy emails, just blackish-grey.

Okay, so when I first saw this, my immediate response was, "Wait, Strong Bad's eyes never looked like that." Just to be certain, I went all the way back to [[some kinda robot]] and, sure enough, his eyes were green. Unless all the Tandy emails were edited later so he had green eyes (and I'm not sure why they would have ever been grey in the Tandy emails, seeing as how his eyes were even green in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]), this fact is... well, what's the phrase I'm looking for... not true. Unless there's something I don't know (and if there is, somebody please fill me in), I'm removing this fact pending further discussion. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

:I think it means: They have the ''style'' of the Tandymails (without the 2 little circles in the corner of his eyes), but instead of green they're blackish-gray. --[[User:AlmsforthePudgy|AlmsforthePudgy]] 14:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wow. That really needs a rewording. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wait, no, I take it back... it doesn't really seem noteworthy. If they're not the same color, what's the point in drawing the comparison? {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 16:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's Room? ==

The Purple Room in the Easter Egg could be 2046 Strong Sad's Room
:Is it? Last time I read, it was a warehouse.---{{User:Record307/sig}} 00:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::"Could be" means speculation. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:04, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:A Decemberween Mackerel

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 23:10:02 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Dress like shape? Me thinks not! */

== Hallelujah! Hallelujah! ==

After who knows how long, we finally get a toon! This truly is a D-Ween Mackerel!
On to Bweeze-Ness. Here are some things I have noticed.
*On the Main Page it says "New Holiday Toon", and when hovered over it says "For real!"
*When Cardgage is "revived" he makes the same shine and noise as when "Eh, Steve!'s mouth exploded the universe" in Cactus Coffee and the No Tell Hotel"
*Non specific mouthwash and the guy who says I'm going to need you to sign this makes fun of people being sued for using product names.
*Marzipan and Homestar both sung a modified version of O, Decemberween.
*Strong Sad being locked in the tub is a reference to other D-Ween toons.
*This toon constantly references Cardgage's death. And hints at Homsar's
*When Marzipan and Homestar are walking at the beginning, Homestar has footsteps and Marzi is leaving a solid trail, again hinting she is just a mass in a dress shape
*When Cardgage comes out of the bush, he makes the same traffic noise as in his FBI warning and Hremail 3184
*Coach Z is wearing a Blubb-Os box.
*The Bubs scene could be an instance of duplicate characters.
*Homeschool winner, Preshy, Rafferdy, Champeen, The Hurricane and another mass I can't identify at the end of the line are all in the bubs scence
*The Defib unit was previously seen in the Breakfast cereal email
*This is an toon not only in widescreen but it is big altogether even bigger than the games menu(I personally can't fit it on my screen VERTICALLY entirely)

Just things I konticed.
--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 23:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:You should add those to the fun facts section of the article. (I could, but then you wouldn't be credited in the history.) If you're worried about formatting, don't be. Someone will fix it for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::If you can't fit it onto your screen, press F11 (at least in IE) to view full screen. F11 again will shrink it back. Or you can view the Flash file which will automatically fit to your browser. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh shoot. I put in the part about the people in line. Sorry! I didn't know. You can do the rest of them. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:58, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I am just so happy we finally have a toon again! I have been checking the website everyday for so long hoping to see one. This brightened my day!

:::: This is the first time we had a toon since April! Thats 8 months down the drain for us! all we had to do was edit old stuff that was new! oh, im so glad it's over. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== The end of the line ==

Who is that guy at the end of the line before Marzipan? I have no idea. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:57, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:I think it's that girl from a DVD extra.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 03:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::That'd be three [[Unguraits]] standing on each others head. The fun facts already got it. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:19, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Voice ==

I know the sound quality is better, but does Marzipan's voice sound a little different to you guys? I don't know, it sounds more refined, for lack of a better word, maybe it's just been so long I forgot what she sounded like. I understand the sound quality is better for this one, but I don't think that has too much to do with it --[[User:The Swedish Ace|The Swedish Ace]] 03:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, it's different. I can't describe it either. It was different in [[DNA Evidence]] too.. according to Matt in the DVD commentary, "You can tell Melissa's got a cold here. She's a little snotty." Don't think it's the same thing here, though. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Maybe it's just the result of how long it's been since the last toon? [[Special:Contributions/99.239.23.76|99.239.23.76]] 03:06, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It is a little different... It is probably because we havent heard a new toon for eight months, so, her voice must have changed because...w-well.... everybody sounds different at the end of a year than what they did at the beginning. That proves my point. also they said there was higher voice resolution or something like that in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. In conclusion, i concur with the anonymous writer above my comment.

== Video Lag During the End? ==

Anybody else have the video studder/lose synch during the end of the cartoon? I've played it about 3 times, and it does it at the same part every single time.

== High horse ==

I think "We Come Down Off Our High Horse!" in the HTML title isn't referring to Homestar's line but rather to the Chaps themselves. They're jokingly saying they've stopped doing whatever they're doing these days long enough to make a new toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You know, I was actually thinking the exact same thing. I didn't want to bring it to the talk because it was a very fleeting suggestion, and I interpreted it to refer to Marzipan's line instead of Homestar's. However, if there's no more verification of this, we don't really have any means of professionally adding this to the article. If we're taking a double <strike>rainbow</strike> meaning out of this page title, we need to be absolutely ''sure'' that this indeed ''is'' a double meaning. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 04:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

: I agree with Dot com here. It wouldn't be the first time they've acknowledged a long break between toons, and it was also something that definitely crossed my mind when I read it the first time. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:: Makes sense to me. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:26, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Screen size ==

Is there a way of watching this toon without having to scroll? Not the Flash file, the HTML toon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You could do any of the following:
:#Get Firefox, get Greasemonkey, then get [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Phlip's All-in-one script]], which includes a feature to automagically make the toon the size of you screen.
:#Press F11 to make your browser go fullscreen (this is standard across all browsers).
:#Increase the resolution of your screen by going to control panel and then under Appearance and Personalization there should be a link that says "Adjust Screen Resolution" (at least that's on Vista, might be slightly different in 7 and probably similar in OS X).
:#Buy a bigger monitor/better video card.
:--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:You could also lower the font-size (Cmd minus or Ctrl minus), that's what I did. --[[User:Hatkirby|Hatkirby]] 11:34, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:If you have Firefox, I suspect [https://addons.mozilla.org/af/firefox/addon/1696/ this add-on] will downsize any too-large 'toons as well as embiggening the small ones. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

You could also zoom out. In IE and Firefox go to "View" on the menu, then zoom. [[User:Perducci|Perducci]]
:In '''all''' modern browsers, Ctrl-Scroll Wheel. And don't forget xrandr for 'Nix users! — {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 01:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Octan's note also works on Safari for all you mac users. I have Safari and it worked perfectly. but dont forget to switch it back though. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:44, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

==Sports==

When Marzipan said "Senor Cardgage won first place in sports" it reminded me of the reporter in Coach Z's 110% that said "Homestar Runner, you just won the sports". So now I'm wondering if there's any other time the term "sports" is used in place of an actual sport, and if not, if this seems notable in any way at all.

Oh yeah also when Coach Z pops out of the snow before Cardgage appears there's a line in the snow where he came out that disappears before the scene zooms in.--[[User:Topmonhit|Topmonhit]] 05:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

==Rejected Characters==
[[File:MackeralRejectedCharacters.png|thumb|A line for the holidays]]
Can we get a shot of the rejected characters. It only lasts for like three seconds. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 20:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:There it is. Do as you will with it. That'll be $250. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::Let's put it in the article next to the fun fact about it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

==Cardgage's Dialogue==

Cardgage usually calls people women's names, but here, he doesn't say any female names at all; in fact, he uses a MALE name at one point. Did anyone else notice this? I put this in Remarks. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 23:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Fake vomit ==

The transcription says Homestar throws up when he says "puke". But to me it looked like they were trying to get across that it was imaginary vomit, because it's just a dotted white outline. Thoughts? - Your imaginary pal, [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:I agree. Watching it frame by frame, it definitely looks pretend. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::I was kinda wondering why the vomit was a dotted line and clear. Maybe that is it.{{User:The McArby/Sig}} 00:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I sorta figured the puke was supposed to look Christmas-y. Anyone? {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 01:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Maybe he puked snow? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 03:02, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Maybe a reference to Epic Yarn, which uses that art style. You know how the Chaps love Nintendo. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 05:23, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::i also reccomend the game i havae it. it rules. no, i think that they did it in refrence to [[Halloween Potion-Ma Jig]] where the bottle of Ghost water is dotted with the outline like that. and ghosts are imagiary, or types of imaginary people, so i think they just used the same type of material so they can prove their point. I will have to take another look at it... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Bubses? ==

In the rejected characters scene, Homeschool Winner is seen conversing with Bubs. Three seconds later, we pan to Homestar talking to Bubs a few feet away. Does this count as a case of [[Duplicate Characters]]?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 20:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:Technically no. Since Bubs wasn't moving at all when he was in the stand, I think the "Bubs" you see is actually a cardboard cutout. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 17:03, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Except he ''is'' moving. He's waving his arms. I'll grant that I still think it's a fake Bubs of some sort (or that he can run really fast?), but we shouldn't just dismiss the duplicate characters thing without a discussion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:16, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::From frame 2735 to frame 2743 you can see Bubs standing next to Homestar while you can still very faintly hear the other Bubs continuing to talk about sales, proving that there were two different Bubses there that night. {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 17:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I removed it from the Fun Facts list on grounds that they don't appear onscreen at the same time (see also [[No Hands on Deck!]]). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== My left arm is disappearing, Miss America ==

I posted a fun fact saying that Senor Cardgage's left arm disappears after he rises from the bush. [[User:The Knights Who Say Ni|The Knights Who Say Ni]] reverted it. If you watch the bush closely, ''something'' red is behind it as he's rising up, but the moment he stops, it disappears. I figured it's his left hand/glove. If anyone out there has Greasemonkey and can verify this, I'd be much obliged. Bottom line, though: something weird happens after he rises up. I see it, clear as Halloween Night.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:45, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
: I see it. What's really funny: on the same frame his left hand disappears, a spot of his right hand ''appears'' from behind the bush. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Bobo the King - I was wrong to revert you, and i apologize. I didn't know what to look for, so i wasn't looking early enough. hope my clarifying revision works for you. Jay - for some reason, my right click menu isn't working, so i am unable to watch this by frames. once that gets fixed, i'll be able to see what you're talking about more clearly. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 14:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::: If you have Firefox, the Greasemonkey script helps a lot for frame-by-frame comparisons. :) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::No worries, Knights. I've made more than my share of mistakes in editing and it's not as though any damage was done-- this is a Wiki, after all. I just wanted to throw it on the talk page since it seemed my version of the fun fact was unclear. No harm done, and apology graciously accepted!--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Jay - yes i use firefox, but i don't have that script. normally i can just right click and stop the action and watch it by frames that way. something tells me that if i manually crash firefox, the problem will fix itself, but at the same time, i'm always hesitant to do that. incidentally, for [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HomestarRunner.com_PAY_PLUS!&diff=prev&oldid=711854 this edit summary], i went in and actually counted each individual frame. (it was only seven seconds at 12 fps; i figure it wouldn't take all that long) i figure since i hardly ever need to know frame numbers, downloading that script isn't all that urgent at the present time. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:00, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::what do you know, right click menu magically works again! and i didn't have to crash the browser or anything. anyway, Jay - wow, that's interesting. could a decompiler take out the bush? that would be crazy to watch... {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's transition lines ==

I extracted the file of Marzipan's lines right before a couple of the transitions. Listen here: [[Media:A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3|A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3]]. I think her first line is "Move it on," not "Movin' on." I also hear no "r" in "Peeow." (Interestingly, there's an unused "Yoink" in there too.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:The "Peeow" bit I'll buy, but I definitely hear "Movin' On." If I really try, I can sorta kinda hear an "it", but barely. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 19:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, that doesn't sound like Move it on. {{User:The McArby/Sig}} 16:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::I took it in and it was definatly it was Movin' On. Also, off the record, pardon me if some of my words are missing a letter, my keyboard is old and not working right.... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:54, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Photo caption ==
[[File:A Decemberween Mackerel opening.png|thumb|"At Decemberween time, it's our duty as people with more than one DVR to help those much, much, much, much, way very, very, very much, really smelly, a lot much less fortunate than us."]]
Per the suggestion of It's dot com I'm taking this discussion here. The caption for the photo on the page is much, much too long and doesn't really fit the picture. We try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions here and this is one of them. Not to mention the fact that it really isn't funny, either. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 06:08, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:The caption for the photo on the page is not too long at all. It fits the picture very well, much better in fact than the other one. We don't try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions. It's especially funny, in part because of its length. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:13, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::I'm largely ambivalent, but if required to make the choice, I'd go with DC's because, whatever anyone else may say, I do find it marginally funnier than the other. Also because I actually agree that it actually does fit the picture better than the other (for the "keep slogging" quote to fit well, Marzipan would need to have her angry look). I do grant that it's pretty long, but really, I don't know that we have any particular precedent against long quotes. Still, I'm not going to get too involved in this. I think caption wars are kind of a waste of time, anyway. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:49, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Easy there, German Homestar, let's not call this a "caption war". I've seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back, and seven lines of space below a photo for something that quite frankly isn't funny is a little too much. There's gotta be a better way. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 07:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::"Caption war" = just a term for an edit war over captions, so I think it describes the situation well. As for the dispute, unfortunately, part of this is just plain subjective: whether that line is funny. You say it is not, Dot com says it is. No real objective answer to that dispute. For my part, I find it funny, though not exceedingly so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:26, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::I find the extra-long caption funny. It was probably the first (of many) things that made me laugh in the toon. Additionally, extra-long captions are funny in and of themselves (see also [[Compy Catalog]]). But, objectively, who said the caption even needs to be funny? Can't it just be a caption? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:31, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I would characterize the majority of our captions, especially the ones at the top of toon articles, as funny. (Yes, funny is subjective. Let's just say that they were probably funny to whoever added them to the respective articles.) Even if we ''usually'' have short captions, I have not noticed that we, as a rule, must ''always'' choose short quotes for captions (demonstrated by the link above), and I would expect the claim that one has "seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back" to be backed up with links to edits. Ultimately, I think the current caption is fine with the current image (shown above).
::::::But really, we're focusing on the wrong thing here. I don't think the current ''image'' is the right one for the article. I needed an image for the main page, and so I specifically chose something close to the beginning of the toon that wouldn't be a spoiler. I put it in the article as a placeholder and added what I thought was the funniest corresponding caption. I fully expected the image to be replaced at some point (I even named it "A Decemberween Mackerel ''opening''"). The toon is about Senor Cardgage, after all, and he's not even in the picture. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Agreed. The image should have Senor Cardgage in it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:40, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I disagree. It shouldn't. im saying that because dont you think thats too much of a spoiler? Then again, in the descriptions that are on the article page, you did put Marzipan/ barely Homestar thata they were trying to help Cardgage.... but still, we dont need more spoilers on there.... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 23:00, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Toyota Cressida ==

In the Transcript section, at one point, Senor Cardgage is said to say this:
'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' {moans} Oh, my Toyota Cressida... {Cardgage falls down}
But what if what he's actually saying is, "My Toyota crashed."? I think this makes sense because he could be using "Toyota" to refer to one of his organs, and saying it "crashed" would be kind of like it failing. And also because of the recent issue with Toyota vehicles and their brakes failing, causing them to crash. Though that may be too sensitive of a joke for an online show like this to make, especially so soon. Still, I think it's plausible that he could've said either one.
:Does anyone else notice that when Cardgage speaks at this point, his hair darkens? - [[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 10:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hair darkening: it does. Saying "crashed": he doesn't. The "Cressida" is pretty clearly multiple syllables. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:23, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::: wow! i thought he said "Oh, my Toyota Crashdeds." That is not a real word, but.... wow, im only 12 and my hearing is fadin fast!

== Hello, Chi Minh? ==
Upon listening, couldn't it have been "Hello, G-Man"? After all, said character from the Half-Life series has a habit of appearing and disappearing, and Cardgage has just emerged from a ridiculously tiny bush.
:No, I don't think so. I've always heard "Hello, Chi Minh". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Dress like shape? Me thinks not! ==

Maybe the reason that Marzipan is leaving a solid trail behind is because her dress is dragging in the back, erasing any footprints in the snow with just a wide dent. Possibly?
:That'd be a pretty heavy dress to leave such a consistantly wide trail as deep as footprints. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:: As a freindly retort, i guess it must be! Lol! Kidding! I get your point, but mine sure isn't impossible.... as a girl myself, i have worn dresses that actually left marks in snow now that i think of it... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 23:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:A Decemberween Mackerel

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 23:07:22 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Toyota Cressida */

Talk:A Decemberween Mackerel

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 23:00:52 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Photo caption */

== Hallelujah! Hallelujah! ==

After who knows how long, we finally get a toon! This truly is a D-Ween Mackerel!
On to Bweeze-Ness. Here are some things I have noticed.
*On the Main Page it says "New Holiday Toon", and when hovered over it says "For real!"
*When Cardgage is "revived" he makes the same shine and noise as when "Eh, Steve!'s mouth exploded the universe" in Cactus Coffee and the No Tell Hotel"
*Non specific mouthwash and the guy who says I'm going to need you to sign this makes fun of people being sued for using product names.
*Marzipan and Homestar both sung a modified version of O, Decemberween.
*Strong Sad being locked in the tub is a reference to other D-Ween toons.
*This toon constantly references Cardgage's death. And hints at Homsar's
*When Marzipan and Homestar are walking at the beginning, Homestar has footsteps and Marzi is leaving a solid trail, again hinting she is just a mass in a dress shape
*When Cardgage comes out of the bush, he makes the same traffic noise as in his FBI warning and Hremail 3184
*Coach Z is wearing a Blubb-Os box.
*The Bubs scene could be an instance of duplicate characters.
*Homeschool winner, Preshy, Rafferdy, Champeen, The Hurricane and another mass I can't identify at the end of the line are all in the bubs scence
*The Defib unit was previously seen in the Breakfast cereal email
*This is an toon not only in widescreen but it is big altogether even bigger than the games menu(I personally can't fit it on my screen VERTICALLY entirely)

Just things I konticed.
--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 23:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:You should add those to the fun facts section of the article. (I could, but then you wouldn't be credited in the history.) If you're worried about formatting, don't be. Someone will fix it for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::If you can't fit it onto your screen, press F11 (at least in IE) to view full screen. F11 again will shrink it back. Or you can view the Flash file which will automatically fit to your browser. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh shoot. I put in the part about the people in line. Sorry! I didn't know. You can do the rest of them. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:58, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I am just so happy we finally have a toon again! I have been checking the website everyday for so long hoping to see one. This brightened my day!

:::: This is the first time we had a toon since April! Thats 8 months down the drain for us! all we had to do was edit old stuff that was new! oh, im so glad it's over. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== The end of the line ==

Who is that guy at the end of the line before Marzipan? I have no idea. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:57, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:I think it's that girl from a DVD extra.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 03:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::That'd be three [[Unguraits]] standing on each others head. The fun facts already got it. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:19, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Voice ==

I know the sound quality is better, but does Marzipan's voice sound a little different to you guys? I don't know, it sounds more refined, for lack of a better word, maybe it's just been so long I forgot what she sounded like. I understand the sound quality is better for this one, but I don't think that has too much to do with it --[[User:The Swedish Ace|The Swedish Ace]] 03:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, it's different. I can't describe it either. It was different in [[DNA Evidence]] too.. according to Matt in the DVD commentary, "You can tell Melissa's got a cold here. She's a little snotty." Don't think it's the same thing here, though. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Maybe it's just the result of how long it's been since the last toon? [[Special:Contributions/99.239.23.76|99.239.23.76]] 03:06, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It is a little different... It is probably because we havent heard a new toon for eight months, so, her voice must have changed because...w-well.... everybody sounds different at the end of a year than what they did at the beginning. That proves my point. also they said there was higher voice resolution or something like that in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. In conclusion, i concur with the anonymous writer above my comment.

== Video Lag During the End? ==

Anybody else have the video studder/lose synch during the end of the cartoon? I've played it about 3 times, and it does it at the same part every single time.

== High horse ==

I think "We Come Down Off Our High Horse!" in the HTML title isn't referring to Homestar's line but rather to the Chaps themselves. They're jokingly saying they've stopped doing whatever they're doing these days long enough to make a new toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You know, I was actually thinking the exact same thing. I didn't want to bring it to the talk because it was a very fleeting suggestion, and I interpreted it to refer to Marzipan's line instead of Homestar's. However, if there's no more verification of this, we don't really have any means of professionally adding this to the article. If we're taking a double <strike>rainbow</strike> meaning out of this page title, we need to be absolutely ''sure'' that this indeed ''is'' a double meaning. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 04:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

: I agree with Dot com here. It wouldn't be the first time they've acknowledged a long break between toons, and it was also something that definitely crossed my mind when I read it the first time. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:: Makes sense to me. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:26, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Screen size ==

Is there a way of watching this toon without having to scroll? Not the Flash file, the HTML toon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You could do any of the following:
:#Get Firefox, get Greasemonkey, then get [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Phlip's All-in-one script]], which includes a feature to automagically make the toon the size of you screen.
:#Press F11 to make your browser go fullscreen (this is standard across all browsers).
:#Increase the resolution of your screen by going to control panel and then under Appearance and Personalization there should be a link that says "Adjust Screen Resolution" (at least that's on Vista, might be slightly different in 7 and probably similar in OS X).
:#Buy a bigger monitor/better video card.
:--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:You could also lower the font-size (Cmd minus or Ctrl minus), that's what I did. --[[User:Hatkirby|Hatkirby]] 11:34, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:If you have Firefox, I suspect [https://addons.mozilla.org/af/firefox/addon/1696/ this add-on] will downsize any too-large 'toons as well as embiggening the small ones. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

You could also zoom out. In IE and Firefox go to "View" on the menu, then zoom. [[User:Perducci|Perducci]]
:In '''all''' modern browsers, Ctrl-Scroll Wheel. And don't forget xrandr for 'Nix users! — {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 01:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Octan's note also works on Safari for all you mac users. I have Safari and it worked perfectly. but dont forget to switch it back though. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:44, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

==Sports==

When Marzipan said "Senor Cardgage won first place in sports" it reminded me of the reporter in Coach Z's 110% that said "Homestar Runner, you just won the sports". So now I'm wondering if there's any other time the term "sports" is used in place of an actual sport, and if not, if this seems notable in any way at all.

Oh yeah also when Coach Z pops out of the snow before Cardgage appears there's a line in the snow where he came out that disappears before the scene zooms in.--[[User:Topmonhit|Topmonhit]] 05:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

==Rejected Characters==
[[File:MackeralRejectedCharacters.png|thumb|A line for the holidays]]
Can we get a shot of the rejected characters. It only lasts for like three seconds. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 20:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:There it is. Do as you will with it. That'll be $250. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::Let's put it in the article next to the fun fact about it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

==Cardgage's Dialogue==

Cardgage usually calls people women's names, but here, he doesn't say any female names at all; in fact, he uses a MALE name at one point. Did anyone else notice this? I put this in Remarks. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 23:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Fake vomit ==

The transcription says Homestar throws up when he says "puke". But to me it looked like they were trying to get across that it was imaginary vomit, because it's just a dotted white outline. Thoughts? - Your imaginary pal, [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:I agree. Watching it frame by frame, it definitely looks pretend. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::I was kinda wondering why the vomit was a dotted line and clear. Maybe that is it.{{User:The McArby/Sig}} 00:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I sorta figured the puke was supposed to look Christmas-y. Anyone? {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 01:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Maybe he puked snow? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 03:02, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Maybe a reference to Epic Yarn, which uses that art style. You know how the Chaps love Nintendo. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 05:23, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::i also reccomend the game i havae it. it rules. no, i think that they did it in refrence to [[Halloween Potion-Ma Jig]] where the bottle of Ghost water is dotted with the outline like that. and ghosts are imagiary, or types of imaginary people, so i think they just used the same type of material so they can prove their point. I will have to take another look at it... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Bubses? ==

In the rejected characters scene, Homeschool Winner is seen conversing with Bubs. Three seconds later, we pan to Homestar talking to Bubs a few feet away. Does this count as a case of [[Duplicate Characters]]?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 20:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:Technically no. Since Bubs wasn't moving at all when he was in the stand, I think the "Bubs" you see is actually a cardboard cutout. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 17:03, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Except he ''is'' moving. He's waving his arms. I'll grant that I still think it's a fake Bubs of some sort (or that he can run really fast?), but we shouldn't just dismiss the duplicate characters thing without a discussion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:16, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::From frame 2735 to frame 2743 you can see Bubs standing next to Homestar while you can still very faintly hear the other Bubs continuing to talk about sales, proving that there were two different Bubses there that night. {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 17:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I removed it from the Fun Facts list on grounds that they don't appear onscreen at the same time (see also [[No Hands on Deck!]]). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== My left arm is disappearing, Miss America ==

I posted a fun fact saying that Senor Cardgage's left arm disappears after he rises from the bush. [[User:The Knights Who Say Ni|The Knights Who Say Ni]] reverted it. If you watch the bush closely, ''something'' red is behind it as he's rising up, but the moment he stops, it disappears. I figured it's his left hand/glove. If anyone out there has Greasemonkey and can verify this, I'd be much obliged. Bottom line, though: something weird happens after he rises up. I see it, clear as Halloween Night.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:45, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
: I see it. What's really funny: on the same frame his left hand disappears, a spot of his right hand ''appears'' from behind the bush. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Bobo the King - I was wrong to revert you, and i apologize. I didn't know what to look for, so i wasn't looking early enough. hope my clarifying revision works for you. Jay - for some reason, my right click menu isn't working, so i am unable to watch this by frames. once that gets fixed, i'll be able to see what you're talking about more clearly. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 14:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::: If you have Firefox, the Greasemonkey script helps a lot for frame-by-frame comparisons. :) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::No worries, Knights. I've made more than my share of mistakes in editing and it's not as though any damage was done-- this is a Wiki, after all. I just wanted to throw it on the talk page since it seemed my version of the fun fact was unclear. No harm done, and apology graciously accepted!--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Jay - yes i use firefox, but i don't have that script. normally i can just right click and stop the action and watch it by frames that way. something tells me that if i manually crash firefox, the problem will fix itself, but at the same time, i'm always hesitant to do that. incidentally, for [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HomestarRunner.com_PAY_PLUS!&diff=prev&oldid=711854 this edit summary], i went in and actually counted each individual frame. (it was only seven seconds at 12 fps; i figure it wouldn't take all that long) i figure since i hardly ever need to know frame numbers, downloading that script isn't all that urgent at the present time. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:00, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::what do you know, right click menu magically works again! and i didn't have to crash the browser or anything. anyway, Jay - wow, that's interesting. could a decompiler take out the bush? that would be crazy to watch... {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's transition lines ==

I extracted the file of Marzipan's lines right before a couple of the transitions. Listen here: [[Media:A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3|A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3]]. I think her first line is "Move it on," not "Movin' on." I also hear no "r" in "Peeow." (Interestingly, there's an unused "Yoink" in there too.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:The "Peeow" bit I'll buy, but I definitely hear "Movin' On." If I really try, I can sorta kinda hear an "it", but barely. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 19:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, that doesn't sound like Move it on. {{User:The McArby/Sig}} 16:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::I took it in and it was definatly it was Movin' On. Also, off the record, pardon me if some of my words are missing a letter, my keyboard is old and not working right.... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:54, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Photo caption ==
[[File:A Decemberween Mackerel opening.png|thumb|"At Decemberween time, it's our duty as people with more than one DVR to help those much, much, much, much, way very, very, very much, really smelly, a lot much less fortunate than us."]]
Per the suggestion of It's dot com I'm taking this discussion here. The caption for the photo on the page is much, much too long and doesn't really fit the picture. We try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions here and this is one of them. Not to mention the fact that it really isn't funny, either. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 06:08, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:The caption for the photo on the page is not too long at all. It fits the picture very well, much better in fact than the other one. We don't try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions. It's especially funny, in part because of its length. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:13, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::I'm largely ambivalent, but if required to make the choice, I'd go with DC's because, whatever anyone else may say, I do find it marginally funnier than the other. Also because I actually agree that it actually does fit the picture better than the other (for the "keep slogging" quote to fit well, Marzipan would need to have her angry look). I do grant that it's pretty long, but really, I don't know that we have any particular precedent against long quotes. Still, I'm not going to get too involved in this. I think caption wars are kind of a waste of time, anyway. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:49, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Easy there, German Homestar, let's not call this a "caption war". I've seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back, and seven lines of space below a photo for something that quite frankly isn't funny is a little too much. There's gotta be a better way. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 07:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::"Caption war" = just a term for an edit war over captions, so I think it describes the situation well. As for the dispute, unfortunately, part of this is just plain subjective: whether that line is funny. You say it is not, Dot com says it is. No real objective answer to that dispute. For my part, I find it funny, though not exceedingly so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:26, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::I find the extra-long caption funny. It was probably the first (of many) things that made me laugh in the toon. Additionally, extra-long captions are funny in and of themselves (see also [[Compy Catalog]]). But, objectively, who said the caption even needs to be funny? Can't it just be a caption? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:31, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I would characterize the majority of our captions, especially the ones at the top of toon articles, as funny. (Yes, funny is subjective. Let's just say that they were probably funny to whoever added them to the respective articles.) Even if we ''usually'' have short captions, I have not noticed that we, as a rule, must ''always'' choose short quotes for captions (demonstrated by the link above), and I would expect the claim that one has "seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back" to be backed up with links to edits. Ultimately, I think the current caption is fine with the current image (shown above).
::::::But really, we're focusing on the wrong thing here. I don't think the current ''image'' is the right one for the article. I needed an image for the main page, and so I specifically chose something close to the beginning of the toon that wouldn't be a spoiler. I put it in the article as a placeholder and added what I thought was the funniest corresponding caption. I fully expected the image to be replaced at some point (I even named it "A Decemberween Mackerel ''opening''"). The toon is about Senor Cardgage, after all, and he's not even in the picture. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Agreed. The image should have Senor Cardgage in it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:40, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I disagree. It shouldn't. im saying that because dont you think thats too much of a spoiler? Then again, in the descriptions that are on the article page, you did put Marzipan/ barely Homestar thata they were trying to help Cardgage.... but still, we dont need more spoilers on there.... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 23:00, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Toyota Cressida ==

In the Transcript section, at one point, Senor Cardgage is said to say this:
'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' {moans} Oh, my Toyota Cressida... {Cardgage falls down}
But what if what he's actually saying is, "My Toyota crashed."? I think this makes sense because he could be using "Toyota" to refer to one of his organs, and saying it "crashed" would be kind of like it failing. And also because of the recent issue with Toyota vehicles and their brakes failing, causing them to crash. Though that may be too sensitive of a joke for an online show like this to make, especially so soon. Still, I think it's plausible that he could've said either one.
:Does anyone else notice that when Cardgage speaks at this point, his hair darkens? - [[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 10:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hair darkening: it does. Saying "crashed": he doesn't. The "Cressida" is pretty clearly multiple syllables. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:23, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Hello, Chi Minh? ==
Upon listening, couldn't it have been "Hello, G-Man"? After all, said character from the Half-Life series has a habit of appearing and disappearing, and Cardgage has just emerged from a ridiculously tiny bush.
:No, I don't think so. I've always heard "Hello, Chi Minh". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Dress like shape? Me thinks not! ==

Maybe the reason that Marzipan is leaving a solid trail behind is because her dress is dragging in the back, erasing any footprints in the snow with just a wide dent. Possibly?
:That'd be a pretty heavy dress to leave such a consistantly wide trail as deep as footprints. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:A Decemberween Mackerel

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:54:26 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Marzipan's transition lines */

== Hallelujah! Hallelujah! ==

After who knows how long, we finally get a toon! This truly is a D-Ween Mackerel!
On to Bweeze-Ness. Here are some things I have noticed.
*On the Main Page it says "New Holiday Toon", and when hovered over it says "For real!"
*When Cardgage is "revived" he makes the same shine and noise as when "Eh, Steve!'s mouth exploded the universe" in Cactus Coffee and the No Tell Hotel"
*Non specific mouthwash and the guy who says I'm going to need you to sign this makes fun of people being sued for using product names.
*Marzipan and Homestar both sung a modified version of O, Decemberween.
*Strong Sad being locked in the tub is a reference to other D-Ween toons.
*This toon constantly references Cardgage's death. And hints at Homsar's
*When Marzipan and Homestar are walking at the beginning, Homestar has footsteps and Marzi is leaving a solid trail, again hinting she is just a mass in a dress shape
*When Cardgage comes out of the bush, he makes the same traffic noise as in his FBI warning and Hremail 3184
*Coach Z is wearing a Blubb-Os box.
*The Bubs scene could be an instance of duplicate characters.
*Homeschool winner, Preshy, Rafferdy, Champeen, The Hurricane and another mass I can't identify at the end of the line are all in the bubs scence
*The Defib unit was previously seen in the Breakfast cereal email
*This is an toon not only in widescreen but it is big altogether even bigger than the games menu(I personally can't fit it on my screen VERTICALLY entirely)

Just things I konticed.
--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 23:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:You should add those to the fun facts section of the article. (I could, but then you wouldn't be credited in the history.) If you're worried about formatting, don't be. Someone will fix it for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::If you can't fit it onto your screen, press F11 (at least in IE) to view full screen. F11 again will shrink it back. Or you can view the Flash file which will automatically fit to your browser. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh shoot. I put in the part about the people in line. Sorry! I didn't know. You can do the rest of them. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:58, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I am just so happy we finally have a toon again! I have been checking the website everyday for so long hoping to see one. This brightened my day!

:::: This is the first time we had a toon since April! Thats 8 months down the drain for us! all we had to do was edit old stuff that was new! oh, im so glad it's over. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== The end of the line ==

Who is that guy at the end of the line before Marzipan? I have no idea. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:57, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:I think it's that girl from a DVD extra.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 03:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::That'd be three [[Unguraits]] standing on each others head. The fun facts already got it. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:19, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Voice ==

I know the sound quality is better, but does Marzipan's voice sound a little different to you guys? I don't know, it sounds more refined, for lack of a better word, maybe it's just been so long I forgot what she sounded like. I understand the sound quality is better for this one, but I don't think that has too much to do with it --[[User:The Swedish Ace|The Swedish Ace]] 03:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, it's different. I can't describe it either. It was different in [[DNA Evidence]] too.. according to Matt in the DVD commentary, "You can tell Melissa's got a cold here. She's a little snotty." Don't think it's the same thing here, though. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Maybe it's just the result of how long it's been since the last toon? [[Special:Contributions/99.239.23.76|99.239.23.76]] 03:06, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It is a little different... It is probably because we havent heard a new toon for eight months, so, her voice must have changed because...w-well.... everybody sounds different at the end of a year than what they did at the beginning. That proves my point. also they said there was higher voice resolution or something like that in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. In conclusion, i concur with the anonymous writer above my comment.

== Video Lag During the End? ==

Anybody else have the video studder/lose synch during the end of the cartoon? I've played it about 3 times, and it does it at the same part every single time.

== High horse ==

I think "We Come Down Off Our High Horse!" in the HTML title isn't referring to Homestar's line but rather to the Chaps themselves. They're jokingly saying they've stopped doing whatever they're doing these days long enough to make a new toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You know, I was actually thinking the exact same thing. I didn't want to bring it to the talk because it was a very fleeting suggestion, and I interpreted it to refer to Marzipan's line instead of Homestar's. However, if there's no more verification of this, we don't really have any means of professionally adding this to the article. If we're taking a double <strike>rainbow</strike> meaning out of this page title, we need to be absolutely ''sure'' that this indeed ''is'' a double meaning. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 04:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

: I agree with Dot com here. It wouldn't be the first time they've acknowledged a long break between toons, and it was also something that definitely crossed my mind when I read it the first time. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:: Makes sense to me. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:26, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Screen size ==

Is there a way of watching this toon without having to scroll? Not the Flash file, the HTML toon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You could do any of the following:
:#Get Firefox, get Greasemonkey, then get [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Phlip's All-in-one script]], which includes a feature to automagically make the toon the size of you screen.
:#Press F11 to make your browser go fullscreen (this is standard across all browsers).
:#Increase the resolution of your screen by going to control panel and then under Appearance and Personalization there should be a link that says "Adjust Screen Resolution" (at least that's on Vista, might be slightly different in 7 and probably similar in OS X).
:#Buy a bigger monitor/better video card.
:--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:You could also lower the font-size (Cmd minus or Ctrl minus), that's what I did. --[[User:Hatkirby|Hatkirby]] 11:34, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:If you have Firefox, I suspect [https://addons.mozilla.org/af/firefox/addon/1696/ this add-on] will downsize any too-large 'toons as well as embiggening the small ones. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

You could also zoom out. In IE and Firefox go to "View" on the menu, then zoom. [[User:Perducci|Perducci]]
:In '''all''' modern browsers, Ctrl-Scroll Wheel. And don't forget xrandr for 'Nix users! — {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 01:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Octan's note also works on Safari for all you mac users. I have Safari and it worked perfectly. but dont forget to switch it back though. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:44, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

==Sports==

When Marzipan said "Senor Cardgage won first place in sports" it reminded me of the reporter in Coach Z's 110% that said "Homestar Runner, you just won the sports". So now I'm wondering if there's any other time the term "sports" is used in place of an actual sport, and if not, if this seems notable in any way at all.

Oh yeah also when Coach Z pops out of the snow before Cardgage appears there's a line in the snow where he came out that disappears before the scene zooms in.--[[User:Topmonhit|Topmonhit]] 05:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

==Rejected Characters==
[[File:MackeralRejectedCharacters.png|thumb|A line for the holidays]]
Can we get a shot of the rejected characters. It only lasts for like three seconds. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 20:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:There it is. Do as you will with it. That'll be $250. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::Let's put it in the article next to the fun fact about it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

==Cardgage's Dialogue==

Cardgage usually calls people women's names, but here, he doesn't say any female names at all; in fact, he uses a MALE name at one point. Did anyone else notice this? I put this in Remarks. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 23:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Fake vomit ==

The transcription says Homestar throws up when he says "puke". But to me it looked like they were trying to get across that it was imaginary vomit, because it's just a dotted white outline. Thoughts? - Your imaginary pal, [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:I agree. Watching it frame by frame, it definitely looks pretend. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::I was kinda wondering why the vomit was a dotted line and clear. Maybe that is it.{{User:The McArby/Sig}} 00:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I sorta figured the puke was supposed to look Christmas-y. Anyone? {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 01:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Maybe he puked snow? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 03:02, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Maybe a reference to Epic Yarn, which uses that art style. You know how the Chaps love Nintendo. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 05:23, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::i also reccomend the game i havae it. it rules. no, i think that they did it in refrence to [[Halloween Potion-Ma Jig]] where the bottle of Ghost water is dotted with the outline like that. and ghosts are imagiary, or types of imaginary people, so i think they just used the same type of material so they can prove their point. I will have to take another look at it... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Bubses? ==

In the rejected characters scene, Homeschool Winner is seen conversing with Bubs. Three seconds later, we pan to Homestar talking to Bubs a few feet away. Does this count as a case of [[Duplicate Characters]]?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 20:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:Technically no. Since Bubs wasn't moving at all when he was in the stand, I think the "Bubs" you see is actually a cardboard cutout. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 17:03, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Except he ''is'' moving. He's waving his arms. I'll grant that I still think it's a fake Bubs of some sort (or that he can run really fast?), but we shouldn't just dismiss the duplicate characters thing without a discussion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:16, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::From frame 2735 to frame 2743 you can see Bubs standing next to Homestar while you can still very faintly hear the other Bubs continuing to talk about sales, proving that there were two different Bubses there that night. {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 17:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I removed it from the Fun Facts list on grounds that they don't appear onscreen at the same time (see also [[No Hands on Deck!]]). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== My left arm is disappearing, Miss America ==

I posted a fun fact saying that Senor Cardgage's left arm disappears after he rises from the bush. [[User:The Knights Who Say Ni|The Knights Who Say Ni]] reverted it. If you watch the bush closely, ''something'' red is behind it as he's rising up, but the moment he stops, it disappears. I figured it's his left hand/glove. If anyone out there has Greasemonkey and can verify this, I'd be much obliged. Bottom line, though: something weird happens after he rises up. I see it, clear as Halloween Night.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:45, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
: I see it. What's really funny: on the same frame his left hand disappears, a spot of his right hand ''appears'' from behind the bush. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Bobo the King - I was wrong to revert you, and i apologize. I didn't know what to look for, so i wasn't looking early enough. hope my clarifying revision works for you. Jay - for some reason, my right click menu isn't working, so i am unable to watch this by frames. once that gets fixed, i'll be able to see what you're talking about more clearly. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 14:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::: If you have Firefox, the Greasemonkey script helps a lot for frame-by-frame comparisons. :) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::No worries, Knights. I've made more than my share of mistakes in editing and it's not as though any damage was done-- this is a Wiki, after all. I just wanted to throw it on the talk page since it seemed my version of the fun fact was unclear. No harm done, and apology graciously accepted!--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Jay - yes i use firefox, but i don't have that script. normally i can just right click and stop the action and watch it by frames that way. something tells me that if i manually crash firefox, the problem will fix itself, but at the same time, i'm always hesitant to do that. incidentally, for [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HomestarRunner.com_PAY_PLUS!&diff=prev&oldid=711854 this edit summary], i went in and actually counted each individual frame. (it was only seven seconds at 12 fps; i figure it wouldn't take all that long) i figure since i hardly ever need to know frame numbers, downloading that script isn't all that urgent at the present time. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:00, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::what do you know, right click menu magically works again! and i didn't have to crash the browser or anything. anyway, Jay - wow, that's interesting. could a decompiler take out the bush? that would be crazy to watch... {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's transition lines ==

I extracted the file of Marzipan's lines right before a couple of the transitions. Listen here: [[Media:A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3|A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3]]. I think her first line is "Move it on," not "Movin' on." I also hear no "r" in "Peeow." (Interestingly, there's an unused "Yoink" in there too.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:The "Peeow" bit I'll buy, but I definitely hear "Movin' On." If I really try, I can sorta kinda hear an "it", but barely. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 19:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, that doesn't sound like Move it on. {{User:The McArby/Sig}} 16:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::I took it in and it was definatly it was Movin' On. Also, off the record, pardon me if some of my words are missing a letter, my keyboard is old and not working right.... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:54, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Photo caption ==
[[File:A Decemberween Mackerel opening.png|thumb|"At Decemberween time, it's our duty as people with more than one DVR to help those much, much, much, much, way very, very, very much, really smelly, a lot much less fortunate than us."]]
Per the suggestion of It's dot com I'm taking this discussion here. The caption for the photo on the page is much, much too long and doesn't really fit the picture. We try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions here and this is one of them. Not to mention the fact that it really isn't funny, either. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 06:08, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:The caption for the photo on the page is not too long at all. It fits the picture very well, much better in fact than the other one. We don't try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions. It's especially funny, in part because of its length. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:13, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::I'm largely ambivalent, but if required to make the choice, I'd go with DC's because, whatever anyone else may say, I do find it marginally funnier than the other. Also because I actually agree that it actually does fit the picture better than the other (for the "keep slogging" quote to fit well, Marzipan would need to have her angry look). I do grant that it's pretty long, but really, I don't know that we have any particular precedent against long quotes. Still, I'm not going to get too involved in this. I think caption wars are kind of a waste of time, anyway. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:49, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Easy there, German Homestar, let's not call this a "caption war". I've seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back, and seven lines of space below a photo for something that quite frankly isn't funny is a little too much. There's gotta be a better way. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 07:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::"Caption war" = just a term for an edit war over captions, so I think it describes the situation well. As for the dispute, unfortunately, part of this is just plain subjective: whether that line is funny. You say it is not, Dot com says it is. No real objective answer to that dispute. For my part, I find it funny, though not exceedingly so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:26, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::I find the extra-long caption funny. It was probably the first (of many) things that made me laugh in the toon. Additionally, extra-long captions are funny in and of themselves (see also [[Compy Catalog]]). But, objectively, who said the caption even needs to be funny? Can't it just be a caption? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:31, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I would characterize the majority of our captions, especially the ones at the top of toon articles, as funny. (Yes, funny is subjective. Let's just say that they were probably funny to whoever added them to the respective articles.) Even if we ''usually'' have short captions, I have not noticed that we, as a rule, must ''always'' choose short quotes for captions (demonstrated by the link above), and I would expect the claim that one has "seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back" to be backed up with links to edits. Ultimately, I think the current caption is fine with the current image (shown above).
::::::But really, we're focusing on the wrong thing here. I don't think the current ''image'' is the right one for the article. I needed an image for the main page, and so I specifically chose something close to the beginning of the toon that wouldn't be a spoiler. I put it in the article as a placeholder and added what I thought was the funniest corresponding caption. I fully expected the image to be replaced at some point (I even named it "A Decemberween Mackerel ''opening''"). The toon is about Senor Cardgage, after all, and he's not even in the picture. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Agreed. The image should have Senor Cardgage in it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:40, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Toyota Cressida ==

In the Transcript section, at one point, Senor Cardgage is said to say this:
'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' {moans} Oh, my Toyota Cressida... {Cardgage falls down}
But what if what he's actually saying is, "My Toyota crashed."? I think this makes sense because he could be using "Toyota" to refer to one of his organs, and saying it "crashed" would be kind of like it failing. And also because of the recent issue with Toyota vehicles and their brakes failing, causing them to crash. Though that may be too sensitive of a joke for an online show like this to make, especially so soon. Still, I think it's plausible that he could've said either one.
:Does anyone else notice that when Cardgage speaks at this point, his hair darkens? - [[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 10:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hair darkening: it does. Saying "crashed": he doesn't. The "Cressida" is pretty clearly multiple syllables. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:23, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Hello, Chi Minh? ==
Upon listening, couldn't it have been "Hello, G-Man"? After all, said character from the Half-Life series has a habit of appearing and disappearing, and Cardgage has just emerged from a ridiculously tiny bush.
:No, I don't think so. I've always heard "Hello, Chi Minh". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Dress like shape? Me thinks not! ==

Maybe the reason that Marzipan is leaving a solid trail behind is because her dress is dragging in the back, erasing any footprints in the snow with just a wide dent. Possibly?
:That'd be a pretty heavy dress to leave such a consistantly wide trail as deep as footprints. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:A Decemberween Mackerel

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:48:40 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Fake vomit */

== Hallelujah! Hallelujah! ==

After who knows how long, we finally get a toon! This truly is a D-Ween Mackerel!
On to Bweeze-Ness. Here are some things I have noticed.
*On the Main Page it says "New Holiday Toon", and when hovered over it says "For real!"
*When Cardgage is "revived" he makes the same shine and noise as when "Eh, Steve!'s mouth exploded the universe" in Cactus Coffee and the No Tell Hotel"
*Non specific mouthwash and the guy who says I'm going to need you to sign this makes fun of people being sued for using product names.
*Marzipan and Homestar both sung a modified version of O, Decemberween.
*Strong Sad being locked in the tub is a reference to other D-Ween toons.
*This toon constantly references Cardgage's death. And hints at Homsar's
*When Marzipan and Homestar are walking at the beginning, Homestar has footsteps and Marzi is leaving a solid trail, again hinting she is just a mass in a dress shape
*When Cardgage comes out of the bush, he makes the same traffic noise as in his FBI warning and Hremail 3184
*Coach Z is wearing a Blubb-Os box.
*The Bubs scene could be an instance of duplicate characters.
*Homeschool winner, Preshy, Rafferdy, Champeen, The Hurricane and another mass I can't identify at the end of the line are all in the bubs scence
*The Defib unit was previously seen in the Breakfast cereal email
*This is an toon not only in widescreen but it is big altogether even bigger than the games menu(I personally can't fit it on my screen VERTICALLY entirely)

Just things I konticed.
--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 23:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:You should add those to the fun facts section of the article. (I could, but then you wouldn't be credited in the history.) If you're worried about formatting, don't be. Someone will fix it for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::If you can't fit it onto your screen, press F11 (at least in IE) to view full screen. F11 again will shrink it back. Or you can view the Flash file which will automatically fit to your browser. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh shoot. I put in the part about the people in line. Sorry! I didn't know. You can do the rest of them. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:58, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I am just so happy we finally have a toon again! I have been checking the website everyday for so long hoping to see one. This brightened my day!

:::: This is the first time we had a toon since April! Thats 8 months down the drain for us! all we had to do was edit old stuff that was new! oh, im so glad it's over. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== The end of the line ==

Who is that guy at the end of the line before Marzipan? I have no idea. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:57, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:I think it's that girl from a DVD extra.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 03:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::That'd be three [[Unguraits]] standing on each others head. The fun facts already got it. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:19, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Voice ==

I know the sound quality is better, but does Marzipan's voice sound a little different to you guys? I don't know, it sounds more refined, for lack of a better word, maybe it's just been so long I forgot what she sounded like. I understand the sound quality is better for this one, but I don't think that has too much to do with it --[[User:The Swedish Ace|The Swedish Ace]] 03:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, it's different. I can't describe it either. It was different in [[DNA Evidence]] too.. according to Matt in the DVD commentary, "You can tell Melissa's got a cold here. She's a little snotty." Don't think it's the same thing here, though. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Maybe it's just the result of how long it's been since the last toon? [[Special:Contributions/99.239.23.76|99.239.23.76]] 03:06, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It is a little different... It is probably because we havent heard a new toon for eight months, so, her voice must have changed because...w-well.... everybody sounds different at the end of a year than what they did at the beginning. That proves my point. also they said there was higher voice resolution or something like that in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. In conclusion, i concur with the anonymous writer above my comment.

== Video Lag During the End? ==

Anybody else have the video studder/lose synch during the end of the cartoon? I've played it about 3 times, and it does it at the same part every single time.

== High horse ==

I think "We Come Down Off Our High Horse!" in the HTML title isn't referring to Homestar's line but rather to the Chaps themselves. They're jokingly saying they've stopped doing whatever they're doing these days long enough to make a new toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You know, I was actually thinking the exact same thing. I didn't want to bring it to the talk because it was a very fleeting suggestion, and I interpreted it to refer to Marzipan's line instead of Homestar's. However, if there's no more verification of this, we don't really have any means of professionally adding this to the article. If we're taking a double <strike>rainbow</strike> meaning out of this page title, we need to be absolutely ''sure'' that this indeed ''is'' a double meaning. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 04:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

: I agree with Dot com here. It wouldn't be the first time they've acknowledged a long break between toons, and it was also something that definitely crossed my mind when I read it the first time. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:: Makes sense to me. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:26, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Screen size ==

Is there a way of watching this toon without having to scroll? Not the Flash file, the HTML toon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You could do any of the following:
:#Get Firefox, get Greasemonkey, then get [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Phlip's All-in-one script]], which includes a feature to automagically make the toon the size of you screen.
:#Press F11 to make your browser go fullscreen (this is standard across all browsers).
:#Increase the resolution of your screen by going to control panel and then under Appearance and Personalization there should be a link that says "Adjust Screen Resolution" (at least that's on Vista, might be slightly different in 7 and probably similar in OS X).
:#Buy a bigger monitor/better video card.
:--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:You could also lower the font-size (Cmd minus or Ctrl minus), that's what I did. --[[User:Hatkirby|Hatkirby]] 11:34, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:If you have Firefox, I suspect [https://addons.mozilla.org/af/firefox/addon/1696/ this add-on] will downsize any too-large 'toons as well as embiggening the small ones. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

You could also zoom out. In IE and Firefox go to "View" on the menu, then zoom. [[User:Perducci|Perducci]]
:In '''all''' modern browsers, Ctrl-Scroll Wheel. And don't forget xrandr for 'Nix users! — {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 01:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Octan's note also works on Safari for all you mac users. I have Safari and it worked perfectly. but dont forget to switch it back though. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:44, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

==Sports==

When Marzipan said "Senor Cardgage won first place in sports" it reminded me of the reporter in Coach Z's 110% that said "Homestar Runner, you just won the sports". So now I'm wondering if there's any other time the term "sports" is used in place of an actual sport, and if not, if this seems notable in any way at all.

Oh yeah also when Coach Z pops out of the snow before Cardgage appears there's a line in the snow where he came out that disappears before the scene zooms in.--[[User:Topmonhit|Topmonhit]] 05:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

==Rejected Characters==
[[File:MackeralRejectedCharacters.png|thumb|A line for the holidays]]
Can we get a shot of the rejected characters. It only lasts for like three seconds. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 20:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:There it is. Do as you will with it. That'll be $250. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::Let's put it in the article next to the fun fact about it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

==Cardgage's Dialogue==

Cardgage usually calls people women's names, but here, he doesn't say any female names at all; in fact, he uses a MALE name at one point. Did anyone else notice this? I put this in Remarks. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 23:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Fake vomit ==

The transcription says Homestar throws up when he says "puke". But to me it looked like they were trying to get across that it was imaginary vomit, because it's just a dotted white outline. Thoughts? - Your imaginary pal, [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:I agree. Watching it frame by frame, it definitely looks pretend. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::I was kinda wondering why the vomit was a dotted line and clear. Maybe that is it.{{User:The McArby/Sig}} 00:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I sorta figured the puke was supposed to look Christmas-y. Anyone? {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 01:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Maybe he puked snow? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 03:02, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Maybe a reference to Epic Yarn, which uses that art style. You know how the Chaps love Nintendo. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 05:23, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::i also reccomend the game i havae it. it rules. no, i think that they did it in refrence to [[Halloween Potion-Ma Jig]] where the bottle of Ghost water is dotted with the outline like that. and ghosts are imagiary, or types of imaginary people, so i think they just used the same type of material so they can prove their point. I will have to take another look at it... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Bubses? ==

In the rejected characters scene, Homeschool Winner is seen conversing with Bubs. Three seconds later, we pan to Homestar talking to Bubs a few feet away. Does this count as a case of [[Duplicate Characters]]?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 20:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:Technically no. Since Bubs wasn't moving at all when he was in the stand, I think the "Bubs" you see is actually a cardboard cutout. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 17:03, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Except he ''is'' moving. He's waving his arms. I'll grant that I still think it's a fake Bubs of some sort (or that he can run really fast?), but we shouldn't just dismiss the duplicate characters thing without a discussion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:16, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::From frame 2735 to frame 2743 you can see Bubs standing next to Homestar while you can still very faintly hear the other Bubs continuing to talk about sales, proving that there were two different Bubses there that night. {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 17:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I removed it from the Fun Facts list on grounds that they don't appear onscreen at the same time (see also [[No Hands on Deck!]]). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== My left arm is disappearing, Miss America ==

I posted a fun fact saying that Senor Cardgage's left arm disappears after he rises from the bush. [[User:The Knights Who Say Ni|The Knights Who Say Ni]] reverted it. If you watch the bush closely, ''something'' red is behind it as he's rising up, but the moment he stops, it disappears. I figured it's his left hand/glove. If anyone out there has Greasemonkey and can verify this, I'd be much obliged. Bottom line, though: something weird happens after he rises up. I see it, clear as Halloween Night.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:45, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
: I see it. What's really funny: on the same frame his left hand disappears, a spot of his right hand ''appears'' from behind the bush. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Bobo the King - I was wrong to revert you, and i apologize. I didn't know what to look for, so i wasn't looking early enough. hope my clarifying revision works for you. Jay - for some reason, my right click menu isn't working, so i am unable to watch this by frames. once that gets fixed, i'll be able to see what you're talking about more clearly. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 14:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::: If you have Firefox, the Greasemonkey script helps a lot for frame-by-frame comparisons. :) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::No worries, Knights. I've made more than my share of mistakes in editing and it's not as though any damage was done-- this is a Wiki, after all. I just wanted to throw it on the talk page since it seemed my version of the fun fact was unclear. No harm done, and apology graciously accepted!--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Jay - yes i use firefox, but i don't have that script. normally i can just right click and stop the action and watch it by frames that way. something tells me that if i manually crash firefox, the problem will fix itself, but at the same time, i'm always hesitant to do that. incidentally, for [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HomestarRunner.com_PAY_PLUS!&diff=prev&oldid=711854 this edit summary], i went in and actually counted each individual frame. (it was only seven seconds at 12 fps; i figure it wouldn't take all that long) i figure since i hardly ever need to know frame numbers, downloading that script isn't all that urgent at the present time. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:00, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::what do you know, right click menu magically works again! and i didn't have to crash the browser or anything. anyway, Jay - wow, that's interesting. could a decompiler take out the bush? that would be crazy to watch... {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's transition lines ==

I extracted the file of Marzipan's lines right before a couple of the transitions. Listen here: [[Media:A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3|A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3]]. I think her first line is "Move it on," not "Movin' on." I also hear no "r" in "Peeow." (Interestingly, there's an unused "Yoink" in there too.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:The "Peeow" bit I'll buy, but I definitely hear "Movin' On." If I really try, I can sorta kinda hear an "it", but barely. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 19:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, that doesn't sound like Move it on. {{User:The McArby/Sig}} 16:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== Photo caption ==
[[File:A Decemberween Mackerel opening.png|thumb|"At Decemberween time, it's our duty as people with more than one DVR to help those much, much, much, much, way very, very, very much, really smelly, a lot much less fortunate than us."]]
Per the suggestion of It's dot com I'm taking this discussion here. The caption for the photo on the page is much, much too long and doesn't really fit the picture. We try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions here and this is one of them. Not to mention the fact that it really isn't funny, either. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 06:08, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:The caption for the photo on the page is not too long at all. It fits the picture very well, much better in fact than the other one. We don't try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions. It's especially funny, in part because of its length. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:13, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::I'm largely ambivalent, but if required to make the choice, I'd go with DC's because, whatever anyone else may say, I do find it marginally funnier than the other. Also because I actually agree that it actually does fit the picture better than the other (for the "keep slogging" quote to fit well, Marzipan would need to have her angry look). I do grant that it's pretty long, but really, I don't know that we have any particular precedent against long quotes. Still, I'm not going to get too involved in this. I think caption wars are kind of a waste of time, anyway. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:49, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Easy there, German Homestar, let's not call this a "caption war". I've seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back, and seven lines of space below a photo for something that quite frankly isn't funny is a little too much. There's gotta be a better way. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 07:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::"Caption war" = just a term for an edit war over captions, so I think it describes the situation well. As for the dispute, unfortunately, part of this is just plain subjective: whether that line is funny. You say it is not, Dot com says it is. No real objective answer to that dispute. For my part, I find it funny, though not exceedingly so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:26, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::I find the extra-long caption funny. It was probably the first (of many) things that made me laugh in the toon. Additionally, extra-long captions are funny in and of themselves (see also [[Compy Catalog]]). But, objectively, who said the caption even needs to be funny? Can't it just be a caption? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:31, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I would characterize the majority of our captions, especially the ones at the top of toon articles, as funny. (Yes, funny is subjective. Let's just say that they were probably funny to whoever added them to the respective articles.) Even if we ''usually'' have short captions, I have not noticed that we, as a rule, must ''always'' choose short quotes for captions (demonstrated by the link above), and I would expect the claim that one has "seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back" to be backed up with links to edits. Ultimately, I think the current caption is fine with the current image (shown above).
::::::But really, we're focusing on the wrong thing here. I don't think the current ''image'' is the right one for the article. I needed an image for the main page, and so I specifically chose something close to the beginning of the toon that wouldn't be a spoiler. I put it in the article as a placeholder and added what I thought was the funniest corresponding caption. I fully expected the image to be replaced at some point (I even named it "A Decemberween Mackerel ''opening''"). The toon is about Senor Cardgage, after all, and he's not even in the picture. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Agreed. The image should have Senor Cardgage in it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:40, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Toyota Cressida ==

In the Transcript section, at one point, Senor Cardgage is said to say this:
'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' {moans} Oh, my Toyota Cressida... {Cardgage falls down}
But what if what he's actually saying is, "My Toyota crashed."? I think this makes sense because he could be using "Toyota" to refer to one of his organs, and saying it "crashed" would be kind of like it failing. And also because of the recent issue with Toyota vehicles and their brakes failing, causing them to crash. Though that may be too sensitive of a joke for an online show like this to make, especially so soon. Still, I think it's plausible that he could've said either one.
:Does anyone else notice that when Cardgage speaks at this point, his hair darkens? - [[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 10:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hair darkening: it does. Saying "crashed": he doesn't. The "Cressida" is pretty clearly multiple syllables. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:23, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Hello, Chi Minh? ==
Upon listening, couldn't it have been "Hello, G-Man"? After all, said character from the Half-Life series has a habit of appearing and disappearing, and Cardgage has just emerged from a ridiculously tiny bush.
:No, I don't think so. I've always heard "Hello, Chi Minh". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Dress like shape? Me thinks not! ==

Maybe the reason that Marzipan is leaving a solid trail behind is because her dress is dragging in the back, erasing any footprints in the snow with just a wide dent. Possibly?
:That'd be a pretty heavy dress to leave such a consistantly wide trail as deep as footprints. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:A Decemberween Mackerel

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:44:29 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Screen size */

== Hallelujah! Hallelujah! ==

After who knows how long, we finally get a toon! This truly is a D-Ween Mackerel!
On to Bweeze-Ness. Here are some things I have noticed.
*On the Main Page it says "New Holiday Toon", and when hovered over it says "For real!"
*When Cardgage is "revived" he makes the same shine and noise as when "Eh, Steve!'s mouth exploded the universe" in Cactus Coffee and the No Tell Hotel"
*Non specific mouthwash and the guy who says I'm going to need you to sign this makes fun of people being sued for using product names.
*Marzipan and Homestar both sung a modified version of O, Decemberween.
*Strong Sad being locked in the tub is a reference to other D-Ween toons.
*This toon constantly references Cardgage's death. And hints at Homsar's
*When Marzipan and Homestar are walking at the beginning, Homestar has footsteps and Marzi is leaving a solid trail, again hinting she is just a mass in a dress shape
*When Cardgage comes out of the bush, he makes the same traffic noise as in his FBI warning and Hremail 3184
*Coach Z is wearing a Blubb-Os box.
*The Bubs scene could be an instance of duplicate characters.
*Homeschool winner, Preshy, Rafferdy, Champeen, The Hurricane and another mass I can't identify at the end of the line are all in the bubs scence
*The Defib unit was previously seen in the Breakfast cereal email
*This is an toon not only in widescreen but it is big altogether even bigger than the games menu(I personally can't fit it on my screen VERTICALLY entirely)

Just things I konticed.
--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 23:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:You should add those to the fun facts section of the article. (I could, but then you wouldn't be credited in the history.) If you're worried about formatting, don't be. Someone will fix it for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::If you can't fit it onto your screen, press F11 (at least in IE) to view full screen. F11 again will shrink it back. Or you can view the Flash file which will automatically fit to your browser. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh shoot. I put in the part about the people in line. Sorry! I didn't know. You can do the rest of them. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:58, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I am just so happy we finally have a toon again! I have been checking the website everyday for so long hoping to see one. This brightened my day!

:::: This is the first time we had a toon since April! Thats 8 months down the drain for us! all we had to do was edit old stuff that was new! oh, im so glad it's over. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== The end of the line ==

Who is that guy at the end of the line before Marzipan? I have no idea. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:57, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:I think it's that girl from a DVD extra.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 03:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::That'd be three [[Unguraits]] standing on each others head. The fun facts already got it. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:19, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Voice ==

I know the sound quality is better, but does Marzipan's voice sound a little different to you guys? I don't know, it sounds more refined, for lack of a better word, maybe it's just been so long I forgot what she sounded like. I understand the sound quality is better for this one, but I don't think that has too much to do with it --[[User:The Swedish Ace|The Swedish Ace]] 03:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, it's different. I can't describe it either. It was different in [[DNA Evidence]] too.. according to Matt in the DVD commentary, "You can tell Melissa's got a cold here. She's a little snotty." Don't think it's the same thing here, though. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Maybe it's just the result of how long it's been since the last toon? [[Special:Contributions/99.239.23.76|99.239.23.76]] 03:06, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It is a little different... It is probably because we havent heard a new toon for eight months, so, her voice must have changed because...w-well.... everybody sounds different at the end of a year than what they did at the beginning. That proves my point. also they said there was higher voice resolution or something like that in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. In conclusion, i concur with the anonymous writer above my comment.

== Video Lag During the End? ==

Anybody else have the video studder/lose synch during the end of the cartoon? I've played it about 3 times, and it does it at the same part every single time.

== High horse ==

I think "We Come Down Off Our High Horse!" in the HTML title isn't referring to Homestar's line but rather to the Chaps themselves. They're jokingly saying they've stopped doing whatever they're doing these days long enough to make a new toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You know, I was actually thinking the exact same thing. I didn't want to bring it to the talk because it was a very fleeting suggestion, and I interpreted it to refer to Marzipan's line instead of Homestar's. However, if there's no more verification of this, we don't really have any means of professionally adding this to the article. If we're taking a double <strike>rainbow</strike> meaning out of this page title, we need to be absolutely ''sure'' that this indeed ''is'' a double meaning. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 04:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

: I agree with Dot com here. It wouldn't be the first time they've acknowledged a long break between toons, and it was also something that definitely crossed my mind when I read it the first time. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:: Makes sense to me. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:26, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Screen size ==

Is there a way of watching this toon without having to scroll? Not the Flash file, the HTML toon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You could do any of the following:
:#Get Firefox, get Greasemonkey, then get [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Phlip's All-in-one script]], which includes a feature to automagically make the toon the size of you screen.
:#Press F11 to make your browser go fullscreen (this is standard across all browsers).
:#Increase the resolution of your screen by going to control panel and then under Appearance and Personalization there should be a link that says "Adjust Screen Resolution" (at least that's on Vista, might be slightly different in 7 and probably similar in OS X).
:#Buy a bigger monitor/better video card.
:--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:You could also lower the font-size (Cmd minus or Ctrl minus), that's what I did. --[[User:Hatkirby|Hatkirby]] 11:34, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:If you have Firefox, I suspect [https://addons.mozilla.org/af/firefox/addon/1696/ this add-on] will downsize any too-large 'toons as well as embiggening the small ones. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

You could also zoom out. In IE and Firefox go to "View" on the menu, then zoom. [[User:Perducci|Perducci]]
:In '''all''' modern browsers, Ctrl-Scroll Wheel. And don't forget xrandr for 'Nix users! — {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 01:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Octan's note also works on Safari for all you mac users. I have Safari and it worked perfectly. but dont forget to switch it back though. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:44, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

==Sports==

When Marzipan said "Senor Cardgage won first place in sports" it reminded me of the reporter in Coach Z's 110% that said "Homestar Runner, you just won the sports". So now I'm wondering if there's any other time the term "sports" is used in place of an actual sport, and if not, if this seems notable in any way at all.

Oh yeah also when Coach Z pops out of the snow before Cardgage appears there's a line in the snow where he came out that disappears before the scene zooms in.--[[User:Topmonhit|Topmonhit]] 05:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

==Rejected Characters==
[[File:MackeralRejectedCharacters.png|thumb|A line for the holidays]]
Can we get a shot of the rejected characters. It only lasts for like three seconds. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 20:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:There it is. Do as you will with it. That'll be $250. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::Let's put it in the article next to the fun fact about it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

==Cardgage's Dialogue==

Cardgage usually calls people women's names, but here, he doesn't say any female names at all; in fact, he uses a MALE name at one point. Did anyone else notice this? I put this in Remarks. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 23:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Fake vomit ==

The transcription says Homestar throws up when he says "puke". But to me it looked like they were trying to get across that it was imaginary vomit, because it's just a dotted white outline. Thoughts? - Your imaginary pal, [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:I agree. Watching it frame by frame, it definitely looks pretend. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::I was kinda wondering why the vomit was a dotted line and clear. Maybe that is it.{{User:The McArby/Sig}} 00:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I sorta figured the puke was supposed to look Christmas-y. Anyone? {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 01:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Maybe he puked snow? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 03:02, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Maybe a reference to Epic Yarn, which uses that art style. You know how the Chaps love Nintendo. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 05:23, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

== Bubses? ==

In the rejected characters scene, Homeschool Winner is seen conversing with Bubs. Three seconds later, we pan to Homestar talking to Bubs a few feet away. Does this count as a case of [[Duplicate Characters]]?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 20:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:Technically no. Since Bubs wasn't moving at all when he was in the stand, I think the "Bubs" you see is actually a cardboard cutout. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 17:03, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Except he ''is'' moving. He's waving his arms. I'll grant that I still think it's a fake Bubs of some sort (or that he can run really fast?), but we shouldn't just dismiss the duplicate characters thing without a discussion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:16, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::From frame 2735 to frame 2743 you can see Bubs standing next to Homestar while you can still very faintly hear the other Bubs continuing to talk about sales, proving that there were two different Bubses there that night. {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 17:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I removed it from the Fun Facts list on grounds that they don't appear onscreen at the same time (see also [[No Hands on Deck!]]). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== My left arm is disappearing, Miss America ==

I posted a fun fact saying that Senor Cardgage's left arm disappears after he rises from the bush. [[User:The Knights Who Say Ni|The Knights Who Say Ni]] reverted it. If you watch the bush closely, ''something'' red is behind it as he's rising up, but the moment he stops, it disappears. I figured it's his left hand/glove. If anyone out there has Greasemonkey and can verify this, I'd be much obliged. Bottom line, though: something weird happens after he rises up. I see it, clear as Halloween Night.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:45, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
: I see it. What's really funny: on the same frame his left hand disappears, a spot of his right hand ''appears'' from behind the bush. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Bobo the King - I was wrong to revert you, and i apologize. I didn't know what to look for, so i wasn't looking early enough. hope my clarifying revision works for you. Jay - for some reason, my right click menu isn't working, so i am unable to watch this by frames. once that gets fixed, i'll be able to see what you're talking about more clearly. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 14:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::: If you have Firefox, the Greasemonkey script helps a lot for frame-by-frame comparisons. :) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::No worries, Knights. I've made more than my share of mistakes in editing and it's not as though any damage was done-- this is a Wiki, after all. I just wanted to throw it on the talk page since it seemed my version of the fun fact was unclear. No harm done, and apology graciously accepted!--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Jay - yes i use firefox, but i don't have that script. normally i can just right click and stop the action and watch it by frames that way. something tells me that if i manually crash firefox, the problem will fix itself, but at the same time, i'm always hesitant to do that. incidentally, for [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HomestarRunner.com_PAY_PLUS!&diff=prev&oldid=711854 this edit summary], i went in and actually counted each individual frame. (it was only seven seconds at 12 fps; i figure it wouldn't take all that long) i figure since i hardly ever need to know frame numbers, downloading that script isn't all that urgent at the present time. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:00, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::what do you know, right click menu magically works again! and i didn't have to crash the browser or anything. anyway, Jay - wow, that's interesting. could a decompiler take out the bush? that would be crazy to watch... {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's transition lines ==

I extracted the file of Marzipan's lines right before a couple of the transitions. Listen here: [[Media:A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3|A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3]]. I think her first line is "Move it on," not "Movin' on." I also hear no "r" in "Peeow." (Interestingly, there's an unused "Yoink" in there too.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:The "Peeow" bit I'll buy, but I definitely hear "Movin' On." If I really try, I can sorta kinda hear an "it", but barely. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 19:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, that doesn't sound like Move it on. {{User:The McArby/Sig}} 16:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== Photo caption ==
[[File:A Decemberween Mackerel opening.png|thumb|"At Decemberween time, it's our duty as people with more than one DVR to help those much, much, much, much, way very, very, very much, really smelly, a lot much less fortunate than us."]]
Per the suggestion of It's dot com I'm taking this discussion here. The caption for the photo on the page is much, much too long and doesn't really fit the picture. We try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions here and this is one of them. Not to mention the fact that it really isn't funny, either. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 06:08, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:The caption for the photo on the page is not too long at all. It fits the picture very well, much better in fact than the other one. We don't try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions. It's especially funny, in part because of its length. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:13, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::I'm largely ambivalent, but if required to make the choice, I'd go with DC's because, whatever anyone else may say, I do find it marginally funnier than the other. Also because I actually agree that it actually does fit the picture better than the other (for the "keep slogging" quote to fit well, Marzipan would need to have her angry look). I do grant that it's pretty long, but really, I don't know that we have any particular precedent against long quotes. Still, I'm not going to get too involved in this. I think caption wars are kind of a waste of time, anyway. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:49, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Easy there, German Homestar, let's not call this a "caption war". I've seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back, and seven lines of space below a photo for something that quite frankly isn't funny is a little too much. There's gotta be a better way. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 07:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::"Caption war" = just a term for an edit war over captions, so I think it describes the situation well. As for the dispute, unfortunately, part of this is just plain subjective: whether that line is funny. You say it is not, Dot com says it is. No real objective answer to that dispute. For my part, I find it funny, though not exceedingly so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:26, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::I find the extra-long caption funny. It was probably the first (of many) things that made me laugh in the toon. Additionally, extra-long captions are funny in and of themselves (see also [[Compy Catalog]]). But, objectively, who said the caption even needs to be funny? Can't it just be a caption? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:31, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I would characterize the majority of our captions, especially the ones at the top of toon articles, as funny. (Yes, funny is subjective. Let's just say that they were probably funny to whoever added them to the respective articles.) Even if we ''usually'' have short captions, I have not noticed that we, as a rule, must ''always'' choose short quotes for captions (demonstrated by the link above), and I would expect the claim that one has "seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back" to be backed up with links to edits. Ultimately, I think the current caption is fine with the current image (shown above).
::::::But really, we're focusing on the wrong thing here. I don't think the current ''image'' is the right one for the article. I needed an image for the main page, and so I specifically chose something close to the beginning of the toon that wouldn't be a spoiler. I put it in the article as a placeholder and added what I thought was the funniest corresponding caption. I fully expected the image to be replaced at some point (I even named it "A Decemberween Mackerel ''opening''"). The toon is about Senor Cardgage, after all, and he's not even in the picture. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Agreed. The image should have Senor Cardgage in it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:40, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Toyota Cressida ==

In the Transcript section, at one point, Senor Cardgage is said to say this:
'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' {moans} Oh, my Toyota Cressida... {Cardgage falls down}
But what if what he's actually saying is, "My Toyota crashed."? I think this makes sense because he could be using "Toyota" to refer to one of his organs, and saying it "crashed" would be kind of like it failing. And also because of the recent issue with Toyota vehicles and their brakes failing, causing them to crash. Though that may be too sensitive of a joke for an online show like this to make, especially so soon. Still, I think it's plausible that he could've said either one.
:Does anyone else notice that when Cardgage speaks at this point, his hair darkens? - [[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 10:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hair darkening: it does. Saying "crashed": he doesn't. The "Cressida" is pretty clearly multiple syllables. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:23, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Hello, Chi Minh? ==
Upon listening, couldn't it have been "Hello, G-Man"? After all, said character from the Half-Life series has a habit of appearing and disappearing, and Cardgage has just emerged from a ridiculously tiny bush.
:No, I don't think so. I've always heard "Hello, Chi Minh". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Dress like shape? Me thinks not! ==

Maybe the reason that Marzipan is leaving a solid trail behind is because her dress is dragging in the back, erasing any footprints in the snow with just a wide dent. Possibly?
:That'd be a pretty heavy dress to leave such a consistantly wide trail as deep as footprints. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:A Decemberween Mackerel

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:31:59 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Marzipan's Voice */

== Hallelujah! Hallelujah! ==

After who knows how long, we finally get a toon! This truly is a D-Ween Mackerel!
On to Bweeze-Ness. Here are some things I have noticed.
*On the Main Page it says "New Holiday Toon", and when hovered over it says "For real!"
*When Cardgage is "revived" he makes the same shine and noise as when "Eh, Steve!'s mouth exploded the universe" in Cactus Coffee and the No Tell Hotel"
*Non specific mouthwash and the guy who says I'm going to need you to sign this makes fun of people being sued for using product names.
*Marzipan and Homestar both sung a modified version of O, Decemberween.
*Strong Sad being locked in the tub is a reference to other D-Ween toons.
*This toon constantly references Cardgage's death. And hints at Homsar's
*When Marzipan and Homestar are walking at the beginning, Homestar has footsteps and Marzi is leaving a solid trail, again hinting she is just a mass in a dress shape
*When Cardgage comes out of the bush, he makes the same traffic noise as in his FBI warning and Hremail 3184
*Coach Z is wearing a Blubb-Os box.
*The Bubs scene could be an instance of duplicate characters.
*Homeschool winner, Preshy, Rafferdy, Champeen, The Hurricane and another mass I can't identify at the end of the line are all in the bubs scence
*The Defib unit was previously seen in the Breakfast cereal email
*This is an toon not only in widescreen but it is big altogether even bigger than the games menu(I personally can't fit it on my screen VERTICALLY entirely)

Just things I konticed.
--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 23:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:You should add those to the fun facts section of the article. (I could, but then you wouldn't be credited in the history.) If you're worried about formatting, don't be. Someone will fix it for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::If you can't fit it onto your screen, press F11 (at least in IE) to view full screen. F11 again will shrink it back. Or you can view the Flash file which will automatically fit to your browser. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh shoot. I put in the part about the people in line. Sorry! I didn't know. You can do the rest of them. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:58, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I am just so happy we finally have a toon again! I have been checking the website everyday for so long hoping to see one. This brightened my day!

:::: This is the first time we had a toon since April! Thats 8 months down the drain for us! all we had to do was edit old stuff that was new! oh, im so glad it's over. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== The end of the line ==

Who is that guy at the end of the line before Marzipan? I have no idea. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:57, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:I think it's that girl from a DVD extra.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 03:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::That'd be three [[Unguraits]] standing on each others head. The fun facts already got it. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:19, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Voice ==

I know the sound quality is better, but does Marzipan's voice sound a little different to you guys? I don't know, it sounds more refined, for lack of a better word, maybe it's just been so long I forgot what she sounded like. I understand the sound quality is better for this one, but I don't think that has too much to do with it --[[User:The Swedish Ace|The Swedish Ace]] 03:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, it's different. I can't describe it either. It was different in [[DNA Evidence]] too.. according to Matt in the DVD commentary, "You can tell Melissa's got a cold here. She's a little snotty." Don't think it's the same thing here, though. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Maybe it's just the result of how long it's been since the last toon? [[Special:Contributions/99.239.23.76|99.239.23.76]] 03:06, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It is a little different... It is probably because we havent heard a new toon for eight months, so, her voice must have changed because...w-well.... everybody sounds different at the end of a year than what they did at the beginning. That proves my point. also they said there was higher voice resolution or something like that in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. In conclusion, i concur with the anonymous writer above my comment.

== Video Lag During the End? ==

Anybody else have the video studder/lose synch during the end of the cartoon? I've played it about 3 times, and it does it at the same part every single time.

== High horse ==

I think "We Come Down Off Our High Horse!" in the HTML title isn't referring to Homestar's line but rather to the Chaps themselves. They're jokingly saying they've stopped doing whatever they're doing these days long enough to make a new toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You know, I was actually thinking the exact same thing. I didn't want to bring it to the talk because it was a very fleeting suggestion, and I interpreted it to refer to Marzipan's line instead of Homestar's. However, if there's no more verification of this, we don't really have any means of professionally adding this to the article. If we're taking a double <strike>rainbow</strike> meaning out of this page title, we need to be absolutely ''sure'' that this indeed ''is'' a double meaning. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 04:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

: I agree with Dot com here. It wouldn't be the first time they've acknowledged a long break between toons, and it was also something that definitely crossed my mind when I read it the first time. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:: Makes sense to me. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:26, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Screen size ==

Is there a way of watching this toon without having to scroll? Not the Flash file, the HTML toon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You could do any of the following:
:#Get Firefox, get Greasemonkey, then get [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Phlip's All-in-one script]], which includes a feature to automagically make the toon the size of you screen.
:#Press F11 to make your browser go fullscreen (this is standard across all browsers).
:#Increase the resolution of your screen by going to control panel and then under Appearance and Personalization there should be a link that says "Adjust Screen Resolution" (at least that's on Vista, might be slightly different in 7 and probably similar in OS X).
:#Buy a bigger monitor/better video card.
:--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:You could also lower the font-size (Cmd minus or Ctrl minus), that's what I did. --[[User:Hatkirby|Hatkirby]] 11:34, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:If you have Firefox, I suspect [https://addons.mozilla.org/af/firefox/addon/1696/ this add-on] will downsize any too-large 'toons as well as embiggening the small ones. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

You could also zoom out. In IE and Firefox go to "View" on the menu, then zoom. [[User:Perducci|Perducci]]
:In '''all''' modern browsers, Ctrl-Scroll Wheel. And don't forget xrandr for 'Nix users! — {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 01:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

==Sports==

When Marzipan said "Senor Cardgage won first place in sports" it reminded me of the reporter in Coach Z's 110% that said "Homestar Runner, you just won the sports". So now I'm wondering if there's any other time the term "sports" is used in place of an actual sport, and if not, if this seems notable in any way at all.

Oh yeah also when Coach Z pops out of the snow before Cardgage appears there's a line in the snow where he came out that disappears before the scene zooms in.--[[User:Topmonhit|Topmonhit]] 05:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

==Rejected Characters==
[[File:MackeralRejectedCharacters.png|thumb|A line for the holidays]]
Can we get a shot of the rejected characters. It only lasts for like three seconds. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 20:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:There it is. Do as you will with it. That'll be $250. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::Let's put it in the article next to the fun fact about it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

==Cardgage's Dialogue==

Cardgage usually calls people women's names, but here, he doesn't say any female names at all; in fact, he uses a MALE name at one point. Did anyone else notice this? I put this in Remarks. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 23:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Fake vomit ==

The transcription says Homestar throws up when he says "puke". But to me it looked like they were trying to get across that it was imaginary vomit, because it's just a dotted white outline. Thoughts? - Your imaginary pal, [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:I agree. Watching it frame by frame, it definitely looks pretend. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::I was kinda wondering why the vomit was a dotted line and clear. Maybe that is it.{{User:The McArby/Sig}} 00:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I sorta figured the puke was supposed to look Christmas-y. Anyone? {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 01:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Maybe he puked snow? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 03:02, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Maybe a reference to Epic Yarn, which uses that art style. You know how the Chaps love Nintendo. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 05:23, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

== Bubses? ==

In the rejected characters scene, Homeschool Winner is seen conversing with Bubs. Three seconds later, we pan to Homestar talking to Bubs a few feet away. Does this count as a case of [[Duplicate Characters]]?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 20:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:Technically no. Since Bubs wasn't moving at all when he was in the stand, I think the "Bubs" you see is actually a cardboard cutout. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 17:03, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Except he ''is'' moving. He's waving his arms. I'll grant that I still think it's a fake Bubs of some sort (or that he can run really fast?), but we shouldn't just dismiss the duplicate characters thing without a discussion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:16, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::From frame 2735 to frame 2743 you can see Bubs standing next to Homestar while you can still very faintly hear the other Bubs continuing to talk about sales, proving that there were two different Bubses there that night. {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 17:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I removed it from the Fun Facts list on grounds that they don't appear onscreen at the same time (see also [[No Hands on Deck!]]). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== My left arm is disappearing, Miss America ==

I posted a fun fact saying that Senor Cardgage's left arm disappears after he rises from the bush. [[User:The Knights Who Say Ni|The Knights Who Say Ni]] reverted it. If you watch the bush closely, ''something'' red is behind it as he's rising up, but the moment he stops, it disappears. I figured it's his left hand/glove. If anyone out there has Greasemonkey and can verify this, I'd be much obliged. Bottom line, though: something weird happens after he rises up. I see it, clear as Halloween Night.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:45, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
: I see it. What's really funny: on the same frame his left hand disappears, a spot of his right hand ''appears'' from behind the bush. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Bobo the King - I was wrong to revert you, and i apologize. I didn't know what to look for, so i wasn't looking early enough. hope my clarifying revision works for you. Jay - for some reason, my right click menu isn't working, so i am unable to watch this by frames. once that gets fixed, i'll be able to see what you're talking about more clearly. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 14:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::: If you have Firefox, the Greasemonkey script helps a lot for frame-by-frame comparisons. :) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::No worries, Knights. I've made more than my share of mistakes in editing and it's not as though any damage was done-- this is a Wiki, after all. I just wanted to throw it on the talk page since it seemed my version of the fun fact was unclear. No harm done, and apology graciously accepted!--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Jay - yes i use firefox, but i don't have that script. normally i can just right click and stop the action and watch it by frames that way. something tells me that if i manually crash firefox, the problem will fix itself, but at the same time, i'm always hesitant to do that. incidentally, for [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HomestarRunner.com_PAY_PLUS!&diff=prev&oldid=711854 this edit summary], i went in and actually counted each individual frame. (it was only seven seconds at 12 fps; i figure it wouldn't take all that long) i figure since i hardly ever need to know frame numbers, downloading that script isn't all that urgent at the present time. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:00, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::what do you know, right click menu magically works again! and i didn't have to crash the browser or anything. anyway, Jay - wow, that's interesting. could a decompiler take out the bush? that would be crazy to watch... {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's transition lines ==

I extracted the file of Marzipan's lines right before a couple of the transitions. Listen here: [[Media:A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3|A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3]]. I think her first line is "Move it on," not "Movin' on." I also hear no "r" in "Peeow." (Interestingly, there's an unused "Yoink" in there too.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:The "Peeow" bit I'll buy, but I definitely hear "Movin' On." If I really try, I can sorta kinda hear an "it", but barely. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 19:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, that doesn't sound like Move it on. {{User:The McArby/Sig}} 16:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== Photo caption ==
[[File:A Decemberween Mackerel opening.png|thumb|"At Decemberween time, it's our duty as people with more than one DVR to help those much, much, much, much, way very, very, very much, really smelly, a lot much less fortunate than us."]]
Per the suggestion of It's dot com I'm taking this discussion here. The caption for the photo on the page is much, much too long and doesn't really fit the picture. We try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions here and this is one of them. Not to mention the fact that it really isn't funny, either. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 06:08, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:The caption for the photo on the page is not too long at all. It fits the picture very well, much better in fact than the other one. We don't try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions. It's especially funny, in part because of its length. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:13, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::I'm largely ambivalent, but if required to make the choice, I'd go with DC's because, whatever anyone else may say, I do find it marginally funnier than the other. Also because I actually agree that it actually does fit the picture better than the other (for the "keep slogging" quote to fit well, Marzipan would need to have her angry look). I do grant that it's pretty long, but really, I don't know that we have any particular precedent against long quotes. Still, I'm not going to get too involved in this. I think caption wars are kind of a waste of time, anyway. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:49, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Easy there, German Homestar, let's not call this a "caption war". I've seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back, and seven lines of space below a photo for something that quite frankly isn't funny is a little too much. There's gotta be a better way. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 07:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::"Caption war" = just a term for an edit war over captions, so I think it describes the situation well. As for the dispute, unfortunately, part of this is just plain subjective: whether that line is funny. You say it is not, Dot com says it is. No real objective answer to that dispute. For my part, I find it funny, though not exceedingly so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:26, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::I find the extra-long caption funny. It was probably the first (of many) things that made me laugh in the toon. Additionally, extra-long captions are funny in and of themselves (see also [[Compy Catalog]]). But, objectively, who said the caption even needs to be funny? Can't it just be a caption? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:31, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I would characterize the majority of our captions, especially the ones at the top of toon articles, as funny. (Yes, funny is subjective. Let's just say that they were probably funny to whoever added them to the respective articles.) Even if we ''usually'' have short captions, I have not noticed that we, as a rule, must ''always'' choose short quotes for captions (demonstrated by the link above), and I would expect the claim that one has "seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back" to be backed up with links to edits. Ultimately, I think the current caption is fine with the current image (shown above).
::::::But really, we're focusing on the wrong thing here. I don't think the current ''image'' is the right one for the article. I needed an image for the main page, and so I specifically chose something close to the beginning of the toon that wouldn't be a spoiler. I put it in the article as a placeholder and added what I thought was the funniest corresponding caption. I fully expected the image to be replaced at some point (I even named it "A Decemberween Mackerel ''opening''"). The toon is about Senor Cardgage, after all, and he's not even in the picture. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Agreed. The image should have Senor Cardgage in it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:40, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Toyota Cressida ==

In the Transcript section, at one point, Senor Cardgage is said to say this:
'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' {moans} Oh, my Toyota Cressida... {Cardgage falls down}
But what if what he's actually saying is, "My Toyota crashed."? I think this makes sense because he could be using "Toyota" to refer to one of his organs, and saying it "crashed" would be kind of like it failing. And also because of the recent issue with Toyota vehicles and their brakes failing, causing them to crash. Though that may be too sensitive of a joke for an online show like this to make, especially so soon. Still, I think it's plausible that he could've said either one.
:Does anyone else notice that when Cardgage speaks at this point, his hair darkens? - [[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 10:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hair darkening: it does. Saying "crashed": he doesn't. The "Cressida" is pretty clearly multiple syllables. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:23, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Hello, Chi Minh? ==
Upon listening, couldn't it have been "Hello, G-Man"? After all, said character from the Half-Life series has a habit of appearing and disappearing, and Cardgage has just emerged from a ridiculously tiny bush.
:No, I don't think so. I've always heard "Hello, Chi Minh". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Dress like shape? Me thinks not! ==

Maybe the reason that Marzipan is leaving a solid trail behind is because her dress is dragging in the back, erasing any footprints in the snow with just a wide dent. Possibly?
:That'd be a pretty heavy dress to leave such a consistantly wide trail as deep as footprints. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:A Decemberween Mackerel

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:25:22 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Hallelujah! Hallelujah! */

== Hallelujah! Hallelujah! ==

After who knows how long, we finally get a toon! This truly is a D-Ween Mackerel!
On to Bweeze-Ness. Here are some things I have noticed.
*On the Main Page it says "New Holiday Toon", and when hovered over it says "For real!"
*When Cardgage is "revived" he makes the same shine and noise as when "Eh, Steve!'s mouth exploded the universe" in Cactus Coffee and the No Tell Hotel"
*Non specific mouthwash and the guy who says I'm going to need you to sign this makes fun of people being sued for using product names.
*Marzipan and Homestar both sung a modified version of O, Decemberween.
*Strong Sad being locked in the tub is a reference to other D-Ween toons.
*This toon constantly references Cardgage's death. And hints at Homsar's
*When Marzipan and Homestar are walking at the beginning, Homestar has footsteps and Marzi is leaving a solid trail, again hinting she is just a mass in a dress shape
*When Cardgage comes out of the bush, he makes the same traffic noise as in his FBI warning and Hremail 3184
*Coach Z is wearing a Blubb-Os box.
*The Bubs scene could be an instance of duplicate characters.
*Homeschool winner, Preshy, Rafferdy, Champeen, The Hurricane and another mass I can't identify at the end of the line are all in the bubs scence
*The Defib unit was previously seen in the Breakfast cereal email
*This is an toon not only in widescreen but it is big altogether even bigger than the games menu(I personally can't fit it on my screen VERTICALLY entirely)

Just things I konticed.
--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 23:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:You should add those to the fun facts section of the article. (I could, but then you wouldn't be credited in the history.) If you're worried about formatting, don't be. Someone will fix it for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::If you can't fit it onto your screen, press F11 (at least in IE) to view full screen. F11 again will shrink it back. Or you can view the Flash file which will automatically fit to your browser. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh shoot. I put in the part about the people in line. Sorry! I didn't know. You can do the rest of them. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:58, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I am just so happy we finally have a toon again! I have been checking the website everyday for so long hoping to see one. This brightened my day!

:::: This is the first time we had a toon since April! Thats 8 months down the drain for us! all we had to do was edit old stuff that was new! oh, im so glad it's over. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== The end of the line ==

Who is that guy at the end of the line before Marzipan? I have no idea. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:57, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:I think it's that girl from a DVD extra.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 03:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::That'd be three [[Unguraits]] standing on each others head. The fun facts already got it. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:19, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Voice ==

I know the sound quality is better, but does Marzipan's voice sound a little different to you guys? I don't know, it sounds more refined, for lack of a better word, maybe it's just been so long I forgot what she sounded like. I understand the sound quality is better for this one, but I don't think that has too much to do with it --[[User:The Swedish Ace|The Swedish Ace]] 03:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, it's different. I can't describe it either. It was different in [[DNA Evidence]] too.. according to Matt in the DVD commentary, "You can tell Melissa's got a cold here. She's a little snotty." Don't think it's the same thing here, though. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Maybe it's just the result of how long it's been since the last toon? [[Special:Contributions/99.239.23.76|99.239.23.76]] 03:06, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Video Lag During the End? ==

Anybody else have the video studder/lose synch during the end of the cartoon? I've played it about 3 times, and it does it at the same part every single time.

== High horse ==

I think "We Come Down Off Our High Horse!" in the HTML title isn't referring to Homestar's line but rather to the Chaps themselves. They're jokingly saying they've stopped doing whatever they're doing these days long enough to make a new toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You know, I was actually thinking the exact same thing. I didn't want to bring it to the talk because it was a very fleeting suggestion, and I interpreted it to refer to Marzipan's line instead of Homestar's. However, if there's no more verification of this, we don't really have any means of professionally adding this to the article. If we're taking a double <strike>rainbow</strike> meaning out of this page title, we need to be absolutely ''sure'' that this indeed ''is'' a double meaning. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 04:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

: I agree with Dot com here. It wouldn't be the first time they've acknowledged a long break between toons, and it was also something that definitely crossed my mind when I read it the first time. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:: Makes sense to me. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:26, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Screen size ==

Is there a way of watching this toon without having to scroll? Not the Flash file, the HTML toon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You could do any of the following:
:#Get Firefox, get Greasemonkey, then get [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Phlip's All-in-one script]], which includes a feature to automagically make the toon the size of you screen.
:#Press F11 to make your browser go fullscreen (this is standard across all browsers).
:#Increase the resolution of your screen by going to control panel and then under Appearance and Personalization there should be a link that says "Adjust Screen Resolution" (at least that's on Vista, might be slightly different in 7 and probably similar in OS X).
:#Buy a bigger monitor/better video card.
:--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:You could also lower the font-size (Cmd minus or Ctrl minus), that's what I did. --[[User:Hatkirby|Hatkirby]] 11:34, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:If you have Firefox, I suspect [https://addons.mozilla.org/af/firefox/addon/1696/ this add-on] will downsize any too-large 'toons as well as embiggening the small ones. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

You could also zoom out. In IE and Firefox go to "View" on the menu, then zoom. [[User:Perducci|Perducci]]
:In '''all''' modern browsers, Ctrl-Scroll Wheel. And don't forget xrandr for 'Nix users! — {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 01:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

==Sports==

When Marzipan said "Senor Cardgage won first place in sports" it reminded me of the reporter in Coach Z's 110% that said "Homestar Runner, you just won the sports". So now I'm wondering if there's any other time the term "sports" is used in place of an actual sport, and if not, if this seems notable in any way at all.

Oh yeah also when Coach Z pops out of the snow before Cardgage appears there's a line in the snow where he came out that disappears before the scene zooms in.--[[User:Topmonhit|Topmonhit]] 05:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

==Rejected Characters==
[[File:MackeralRejectedCharacters.png|thumb|A line for the holidays]]
Can we get a shot of the rejected characters. It only lasts for like three seconds. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 20:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:There it is. Do as you will with it. That'll be $250. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::Let's put it in the article next to the fun fact about it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

==Cardgage's Dialogue==

Cardgage usually calls people women's names, but here, he doesn't say any female names at all; in fact, he uses a MALE name at one point. Did anyone else notice this? I put this in Remarks. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 23:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Fake vomit ==

The transcription says Homestar throws up when he says "puke". But to me it looked like they were trying to get across that it was imaginary vomit, because it's just a dotted white outline. Thoughts? - Your imaginary pal, [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:I agree. Watching it frame by frame, it definitely looks pretend. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::I was kinda wondering why the vomit was a dotted line and clear. Maybe that is it.{{User:The McArby/Sig}} 00:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I sorta figured the puke was supposed to look Christmas-y. Anyone? {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 01:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Maybe he puked snow? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 03:02, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Maybe a reference to Epic Yarn, which uses that art style. You know how the Chaps love Nintendo. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 05:23, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

== Bubses? ==

In the rejected characters scene, Homeschool Winner is seen conversing with Bubs. Three seconds later, we pan to Homestar talking to Bubs a few feet away. Does this count as a case of [[Duplicate Characters]]?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 20:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:Technically no. Since Bubs wasn't moving at all when he was in the stand, I think the "Bubs" you see is actually a cardboard cutout. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 17:03, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Except he ''is'' moving. He's waving his arms. I'll grant that I still think it's a fake Bubs of some sort (or that he can run really fast?), but we shouldn't just dismiss the duplicate characters thing without a discussion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:16, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::From frame 2735 to frame 2743 you can see Bubs standing next to Homestar while you can still very faintly hear the other Bubs continuing to talk about sales, proving that there were two different Bubses there that night. {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 17:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I removed it from the Fun Facts list on grounds that they don't appear onscreen at the same time (see also [[No Hands on Deck!]]). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== My left arm is disappearing, Miss America ==

I posted a fun fact saying that Senor Cardgage's left arm disappears after he rises from the bush. [[User:The Knights Who Say Ni|The Knights Who Say Ni]] reverted it. If you watch the bush closely, ''something'' red is behind it as he's rising up, but the moment he stops, it disappears. I figured it's his left hand/glove. If anyone out there has Greasemonkey and can verify this, I'd be much obliged. Bottom line, though: something weird happens after he rises up. I see it, clear as Halloween Night.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:45, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
: I see it. What's really funny: on the same frame his left hand disappears, a spot of his right hand ''appears'' from behind the bush. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Bobo the King - I was wrong to revert you, and i apologize. I didn't know what to look for, so i wasn't looking early enough. hope my clarifying revision works for you. Jay - for some reason, my right click menu isn't working, so i am unable to watch this by frames. once that gets fixed, i'll be able to see what you're talking about more clearly. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 14:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::: If you have Firefox, the Greasemonkey script helps a lot for frame-by-frame comparisons. :) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::No worries, Knights. I've made more than my share of mistakes in editing and it's not as though any damage was done-- this is a Wiki, after all. I just wanted to throw it on the talk page since it seemed my version of the fun fact was unclear. No harm done, and apology graciously accepted!--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Jay - yes i use firefox, but i don't have that script. normally i can just right click and stop the action and watch it by frames that way. something tells me that if i manually crash firefox, the problem will fix itself, but at the same time, i'm always hesitant to do that. incidentally, for [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HomestarRunner.com_PAY_PLUS!&diff=prev&oldid=711854 this edit summary], i went in and actually counted each individual frame. (it was only seven seconds at 12 fps; i figure it wouldn't take all that long) i figure since i hardly ever need to know frame numbers, downloading that script isn't all that urgent at the present time. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:00, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::what do you know, right click menu magically works again! and i didn't have to crash the browser or anything. anyway, Jay - wow, that's interesting. could a decompiler take out the bush? that would be crazy to watch... {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's transition lines ==

I extracted the file of Marzipan's lines right before a couple of the transitions. Listen here: [[Media:A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3|A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3]]. I think her first line is "Move it on," not "Movin' on." I also hear no "r" in "Peeow." (Interestingly, there's an unused "Yoink" in there too.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:The "Peeow" bit I'll buy, but I definitely hear "Movin' On." If I really try, I can sorta kinda hear an "it", but barely. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 19:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, that doesn't sound like Move it on. {{User:The McArby/Sig}} 16:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== Photo caption ==
[[File:A Decemberween Mackerel opening.png|thumb|"At Decemberween time, it's our duty as people with more than one DVR to help those much, much, much, much, way very, very, very much, really smelly, a lot much less fortunate than us."]]
Per the suggestion of It's dot com I'm taking this discussion here. The caption for the photo on the page is much, much too long and doesn't really fit the picture. We try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions here and this is one of them. Not to mention the fact that it really isn't funny, either. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 06:08, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:The caption for the photo on the page is not too long at all. It fits the picture very well, much better in fact than the other one. We don't try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions. It's especially funny, in part because of its length. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:13, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::I'm largely ambivalent, but if required to make the choice, I'd go with DC's because, whatever anyone else may say, I do find it marginally funnier than the other. Also because I actually agree that it actually does fit the picture better than the other (for the "keep slogging" quote to fit well, Marzipan would need to have her angry look). I do grant that it's pretty long, but really, I don't know that we have any particular precedent against long quotes. Still, I'm not going to get too involved in this. I think caption wars are kind of a waste of time, anyway. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:49, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Easy there, German Homestar, let's not call this a "caption war". I've seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back, and seven lines of space below a photo for something that quite frankly isn't funny is a little too much. There's gotta be a better way. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 07:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::"Caption war" = just a term for an edit war over captions, so I think it describes the situation well. As for the dispute, unfortunately, part of this is just plain subjective: whether that line is funny. You say it is not, Dot com says it is. No real objective answer to that dispute. For my part, I find it funny, though not exceedingly so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:26, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::I find the extra-long caption funny. It was probably the first (of many) things that made me laugh in the toon. Additionally, extra-long captions are funny in and of themselves (see also [[Compy Catalog]]). But, objectively, who said the caption even needs to be funny? Can't it just be a caption? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:31, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I would characterize the majority of our captions, especially the ones at the top of toon articles, as funny. (Yes, funny is subjective. Let's just say that they were probably funny to whoever added them to the respective articles.) Even if we ''usually'' have short captions, I have not noticed that we, as a rule, must ''always'' choose short quotes for captions (demonstrated by the link above), and I would expect the claim that one has "seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back" to be backed up with links to edits. Ultimately, I think the current caption is fine with the current image (shown above).
::::::But really, we're focusing on the wrong thing here. I don't think the current ''image'' is the right one for the article. I needed an image for the main page, and so I specifically chose something close to the beginning of the toon that wouldn't be a spoiler. I put it in the article as a placeholder and added what I thought was the funniest corresponding caption. I fully expected the image to be replaced at some point (I even named it "A Decemberween Mackerel ''opening''"). The toon is about Senor Cardgage, after all, and he's not even in the picture. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Agreed. The image should have Senor Cardgage in it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:40, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Toyota Cressida ==

In the Transcript section, at one point, Senor Cardgage is said to say this:
'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' {moans} Oh, my Toyota Cressida... {Cardgage falls down}
But what if what he's actually saying is, "My Toyota crashed."? I think this makes sense because he could be using "Toyota" to refer to one of his organs, and saying it "crashed" would be kind of like it failing. And also because of the recent issue with Toyota vehicles and their brakes failing, causing them to crash. Though that may be too sensitive of a joke for an online show like this to make, especially so soon. Still, I think it's plausible that he could've said either one.
:Does anyone else notice that when Cardgage speaks at this point, his hair darkens? - [[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 10:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hair darkening: it does. Saying "crashed": he doesn't. The "Cressida" is pretty clearly multiple syllables. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:23, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Hello, Chi Minh? ==
Upon listening, couldn't it have been "Hello, G-Man"? After all, said character from the Half-Life series has a habit of appearing and disappearing, and Cardgage has just emerged from a ridiculously tiny bush.
:No, I don't think so. I've always heard "Hello, Chi Minh". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Dress like shape? Me thinks not! ==

Maybe the reason that Marzipan is leaving a solid trail behind is because her dress is dragging in the back, erasing any footprints in the snow with just a wide dent. Possibly?

Talk:A Decemberween Mackerel

Jibblejibblejibble — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:22:14 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/Dress like shape? Me thinks not!

== Hallelujah! Hallelujah! ==

After who knows how long, we finally get a toon! This truly is a D-Ween Mackerel!
On to Bweeze-Ness. Here are some things I have noticed.
*On the Main Page it says "New Holiday Toon", and when hovered over it says "For real!"
*When Cardgage is "revived" he makes the same shine and noise as when "Eh, Steve!'s mouth exploded the universe" in Cactus Coffee and the No Tell Hotel"
*Non specific mouthwash and the guy who says I'm going to need you to sign this makes fun of people being sued for using product names.
*Marzipan and Homestar both sung a modified version of O, Decemberween.
*Strong Sad being locked in the tub is a reference to other D-Ween toons.
*This toon constantly references Cardgage's death. And hints at Homsar's
*When Marzipan and Homestar are walking at the beginning, Homestar has footsteps and Marzi is leaving a solid trail, again hinting she is just a mass in a dress shape
*When Cardgage comes out of the bush, he makes the same traffic noise as in his FBI warning and Hremail 3184
*Coach Z is wearing a Blubb-Os box.
*The Bubs scene could be an instance of duplicate characters.
*Homeschool winner, Preshy, Rafferdy, Champeen, The Hurricane and another mass I can't identify at the end of the line are all in the bubs scence
*The Defib unit was previously seen in the Breakfast cereal email
*This is an toon not only in widescreen but it is big altogether even bigger than the games menu(I personally can't fit it on my screen VERTICALLY entirely)

Just things I konticed.
--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 23:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:You should add those to the fun facts section of the article. (I could, but then you wouldn't be credited in the history.) If you're worried about formatting, don't be. Someone will fix it for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::If you can't fit it onto your screen, press F11 (at least in IE) to view full screen. F11 again will shrink it back. Or you can view the Flash file which will automatically fit to your browser. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh shoot. I put in the part about the people in line. Sorry! I didn't know. You can do the rest of them. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:58, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I am just so happy we finally have a toon again! I have been checking the website everyday for so long hoping to see one. This brightened my day!

== The end of the line ==

Who is that guy at the end of the line before Marzipan? I have no idea. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:57, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:I think it's that girl from a DVD extra.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 03:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::That'd be three [[Unguraits]] standing on each others head. The fun facts already got it. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 03:19, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Voice ==

I know the sound quality is better, but does Marzipan's voice sound a little different to you guys? I don't know, it sounds more refined, for lack of a better word, maybe it's just been so long I forgot what she sounded like. I understand the sound quality is better for this one, but I don't think that has too much to do with it --[[User:The Swedish Ace|The Swedish Ace]] 03:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, it's different. I can't describe it either. It was different in [[DNA Evidence]] too.. according to Matt in the DVD commentary, "You can tell Melissa's got a cold here. She's a little snotty." Don't think it's the same thing here, though. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Maybe it's just the result of how long it's been since the last toon? [[Special:Contributions/99.239.23.76|99.239.23.76]] 03:06, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Video Lag During the End? ==

Anybody else have the video studder/lose synch during the end of the cartoon? I've played it about 3 times, and it does it at the same part every single time.

== High horse ==

I think "We Come Down Off Our High Horse!" in the HTML title isn't referring to Homestar's line but rather to the Chaps themselves. They're jokingly saying they've stopped doing whatever they're doing these days long enough to make a new toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You know, I was actually thinking the exact same thing. I didn't want to bring it to the talk because it was a very fleeting suggestion, and I interpreted it to refer to Marzipan's line instead of Homestar's. However, if there's no more verification of this, we don't really have any means of professionally adding this to the article. If we're taking a double <strike>rainbow</strike> meaning out of this page title, we need to be absolutely ''sure'' that this indeed ''is'' a double meaning. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 04:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

: I agree with Dot com here. It wouldn't be the first time they've acknowledged a long break between toons, and it was also something that definitely crossed my mind when I read it the first time. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:: Makes sense to me. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:26, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Screen size ==

Is there a way of watching this toon without having to scroll? Not the Flash file, the HTML toon. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 05:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:You could do any of the following:
:#Get Firefox, get Greasemonkey, then get [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Phlip's All-in-one script]], which includes a feature to automagically make the toon the size of you screen.
:#Press F11 to make your browser go fullscreen (this is standard across all browsers).
:#Increase the resolution of your screen by going to control panel and then under Appearance and Personalization there should be a link that says "Adjust Screen Resolution" (at least that's on Vista, might be slightly different in 7 and probably similar in OS X).
:#Buy a bigger monitor/better video card.
:--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:You could also lower the font-size (Cmd minus or Ctrl minus), that's what I did. --[[User:Hatkirby|Hatkirby]] 11:34, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:If you have Firefox, I suspect [https://addons.mozilla.org/af/firefox/addon/1696/ this add-on] will downsize any too-large 'toons as well as embiggening the small ones. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

You could also zoom out. In IE and Firefox go to "View" on the menu, then zoom. [[User:Perducci|Perducci]]
:In '''all''' modern browsers, Ctrl-Scroll Wheel. And don't forget xrandr for 'Nix users! — {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 01:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

==Sports==

When Marzipan said "Senor Cardgage won first place in sports" it reminded me of the reporter in Coach Z's 110% that said "Homestar Runner, you just won the sports". So now I'm wondering if there's any other time the term "sports" is used in place of an actual sport, and if not, if this seems notable in any way at all.

Oh yeah also when Coach Z pops out of the snow before Cardgage appears there's a line in the snow where he came out that disappears before the scene zooms in.--[[User:Topmonhit|Topmonhit]] 05:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

==Rejected Characters==
[[File:MackeralRejectedCharacters.png|thumb|A line for the holidays]]
Can we get a shot of the rejected characters. It only lasts for like three seconds. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 20:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:There it is. Do as you will with it. That'll be $250. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::Let's put it in the article next to the fun fact about it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

==Cardgage's Dialogue==

Cardgage usually calls people women's names, but here, he doesn't say any female names at all; in fact, he uses a MALE name at one point. Did anyone else notice this? I put this in Remarks. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 23:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Fake vomit ==

The transcription says Homestar throws up when he says "puke". But to me it looked like they were trying to get across that it was imaginary vomit, because it's just a dotted white outline. Thoughts? - Your imaginary pal, [[User:Octan|Octan]] 00:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:I agree. Watching it frame by frame, it definitely looks pretend. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::I was kinda wondering why the vomit was a dotted line and clear. Maybe that is it.{{User:The McArby/Sig}} 00:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I sorta figured the puke was supposed to look Christmas-y. Anyone? {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 01:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Maybe he puked snow? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 03:02, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Maybe a reference to Epic Yarn, which uses that art style. You know how the Chaps love Nintendo. --[[User:Raddaluigi|Raddaluigi]] 05:23, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

== Bubses? ==

In the rejected characters scene, Homeschool Winner is seen conversing with Bubs. Three seconds later, we pan to Homestar talking to Bubs a few feet away. Does this count as a case of [[Duplicate Characters]]?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 20:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:Technically no. Since Bubs wasn't moving at all when he was in the stand, I think the "Bubs" you see is actually a cardboard cutout. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 17:03, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Except he ''is'' moving. He's waving his arms. I'll grant that I still think it's a fake Bubs of some sort (or that he can run really fast?), but we shouldn't just dismiss the duplicate characters thing without a discussion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:16, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::From frame 2735 to frame 2743 you can see Bubs standing next to Homestar while you can still very faintly hear the other Bubs continuing to talk about sales, proving that there were two different Bubses there that night. {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 17:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I removed it from the Fun Facts list on grounds that they don't appear onscreen at the same time (see also [[No Hands on Deck!]]). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== My left arm is disappearing, Miss America ==

I posted a fun fact saying that Senor Cardgage's left arm disappears after he rises from the bush. [[User:The Knights Who Say Ni|The Knights Who Say Ni]] reverted it. If you watch the bush closely, ''something'' red is behind it as he's rising up, but the moment he stops, it disappears. I figured it's his left hand/glove. If anyone out there has Greasemonkey and can verify this, I'd be much obliged. Bottom line, though: something weird happens after he rises up. I see it, clear as Halloween Night.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:45, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
: I see it. What's really funny: on the same frame his left hand disappears, a spot of his right hand ''appears'' from behind the bush. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Bobo the King - I was wrong to revert you, and i apologize. I didn't know what to look for, so i wasn't looking early enough. hope my clarifying revision works for you. Jay - for some reason, my right click menu isn't working, so i am unable to watch this by frames. once that gets fixed, i'll be able to see what you're talking about more clearly. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 14:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::: If you have Firefox, the Greasemonkey script helps a lot for frame-by-frame comparisons. :) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::No worries, Knights. I've made more than my share of mistakes in editing and it's not as though any damage was done-- this is a Wiki, after all. I just wanted to throw it on the talk page since it seemed my version of the fun fact was unclear. No harm done, and apology graciously accepted!--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Jay - yes i use firefox, but i don't have that script. normally i can just right click and stop the action and watch it by frames that way. something tells me that if i manually crash firefox, the problem will fix itself, but at the same time, i'm always hesitant to do that. incidentally, for [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HomestarRunner.com_PAY_PLUS!&diff=prev&oldid=711854 this edit summary], i went in and actually counted each individual frame. (it was only seven seconds at 12 fps; i figure it wouldn't take all that long) i figure since i hardly ever need to know frame numbers, downloading that script isn't all that urgent at the present time. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:00, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::what do you know, right click menu magically works again! and i didn't have to crash the browser or anything. anyway, Jay - wow, that's interesting. could a decompiler take out the bush? that would be crazy to watch... {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Marzipan's transition lines ==

I extracted the file of Marzipan's lines right before a couple of the transitions. Listen here: [[Media:A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3|A Decemberween Mackerel Marzipan.mp3]]. I think her first line is "Move it on," not "Movin' on." I also hear no "r" in "Peeow." (Interestingly, there's an unused "Yoink" in there too.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:The "Peeow" bit I'll buy, but I definitely hear "Movin' On." If I really try, I can sorta kinda hear an "it", but barely. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 19:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, that doesn't sound like Move it on. {{User:The McArby/Sig}} 16:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== Photo caption ==
[[File:A Decemberween Mackerel opening.png|thumb|"At Decemberween time, it's our duty as people with more than one DVR to help those much, much, much, much, way very, very, very much, really smelly, a lot much less fortunate than us."]]
Per the suggestion of It's dot com I'm taking this discussion here. The caption for the photo on the page is much, much too long and doesn't really fit the picture. We try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions here and this is one of them. Not to mention the fact that it really isn't funny, either. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 06:08, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:The caption for the photo on the page is not too long at all. It fits the picture very well, much better in fact than the other one. We don't try to avoid unnecessarily lengthy captions. It's especially funny, in part because of its length. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:13, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::I'm largely ambivalent, but if required to make the choice, I'd go with DC's because, whatever anyone else may say, I do find it marginally funnier than the other. Also because I actually agree that it actually does fit the picture better than the other (for the "keep slogging" quote to fit well, Marzipan would need to have her angry look). I do grant that it's pretty long, but really, I don't know that we have any particular precedent against long quotes. Still, I'm not going to get too involved in this. I think caption wars are kind of a waste of time, anyway. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:49, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Easy there, German Homestar, let's not call this a "caption war". I've seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back, and seven lines of space below a photo for something that quite frankly isn't funny is a little too much. There's gotta be a better way. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|That guy that slayed some Kerrek]]. 07:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::"Caption war" = just a term for an edit war over captions, so I think it describes the situation well. As for the dispute, unfortunately, part of this is just plain subjective: whether that line is funny. You say it is not, Dot com says it is. No real objective answer to that dispute. For my part, I find it funny, though not exceedingly so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:26, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::I find the extra-long caption funny. It was probably the first (of many) things that made me laugh in the toon. Additionally, extra-long captions are funny in and of themselves (see also [[Compy Catalog]]). But, objectively, who said the caption even needs to be funny? Can't it just be a caption? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:31, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I would characterize the majority of our captions, especially the ones at the top of toon articles, as funny. (Yes, funny is subjective. Let's just say that they were probably funny to whoever added them to the respective articles.) Even if we ''usually'' have short captions, I have not noticed that we, as a rule, must ''always'' choose short quotes for captions (demonstrated by the link above), and I would expect the claim that one has "seen plenty of lengthy captions get cut back" to be backed up with links to edits. Ultimately, I think the current caption is fine with the current image (shown above).
::::::But really, we're focusing on the wrong thing here. I don't think the current ''image'' is the right one for the article. I needed an image for the main page, and so I specifically chose something close to the beginning of the toon that wouldn't be a spoiler. I put it in the article as a placeholder and added what I thought was the funniest corresponding caption. I fully expected the image to be replaced at some point (I even named it "A Decemberween Mackerel ''opening''"). The toon is about Senor Cardgage, after all, and he's not even in the picture. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Agreed. The image should have Senor Cardgage in it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:40, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Toyota Cressida ==

In the Transcript section, at one point, Senor Cardgage is said to say this:
'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' {moans} Oh, my Toyota Cressida... {Cardgage falls down}
But what if what he's actually saying is, "My Toyota crashed."? I think this makes sense because he could be using "Toyota" to refer to one of his organs, and saying it "crashed" would be kind of like it failing. And also because of the recent issue with Toyota vehicles and their brakes failing, causing them to crash. Though that may be too sensitive of a joke for an online show like this to make, especially so soon. Still, I think it's plausible that he could've said either one.
:Does anyone else notice that when Cardgage speaks at this point, his hair darkens? - [[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 10:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hair darkening: it does. Saying "crashed": he doesn't. The "Cressida" is pretty clearly multiple syllables. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:23, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Hello, Chi Minh? ==
Upon listening, couldn't it have been "Hello, G-Man"? After all, said character from the Half-Life series has a habit of appearing and disappearing, and Cardgage has just emerged from a ridiculously tiny bush.
:No, I don't think so. I've always heard "Hello, Chi Minh". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Dress like shape? Me thinks not! ==

Maybe the reason that Marzipan is leaving a solid trail behind is because her dress is dragging in the back, erasing any footprints in the snow with just a wide dent. Possibly?

cheatday

Jibblejibblejibble — Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:48:16 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Inside References */

{{sbenav|107}}
[[Image:sbemail107.PNG|thumb|"...Which says he's a 43-year old Scandinavian miner named Ilko Skevüld."]]

Someone asks what Strong Bad does on The Cheat's birthday: 'The Cheatday', while Coach Z and Bubs try to form a band.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Basement of the Brothers Strong]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, July 5, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 2:33

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing "strongbad_email.exe"}'' Let's check a Strong Bad Email, you and me. Together. Like we used to. Like a family.

<blockquote class="short email">Dear Strong Bad, 
what did you do for the Cheat's 
birthday party</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{regarding the lack of signature}'' Aw, man! Another one of those "no-name brand" emails. Ah, let's see. Who are you from? You're from... ''{typing signature}'' Mike ''{pause}'' Control. ''{rapping but not typing}'' Here comes Mike, he's on the Mike... Control. Chiggity here comes Mike, he's on the Mike... Control. Miggity here comes Mike, he's on the Mike... Control.

''{Cut to behind Strong Bad at his computer, with Coach Z standing on the right side of the screen}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, that's a good rhyme! We should cut a demo!

'''BUBS:''' ''{enters}'' I could be your manager. I'll make millions!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You'll do no such thing! I don't need you fools. Now get outta here and let me answer Mike Controller's question.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{leaving}'' Yeah, we'll be better off without 'im.

'''BUBS:''' ''{leaving}'' I can play keytar!

''{Cut back to the Compy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Anyways, where were we? Oh yeah, Cheatday. ''{begins typing his response}'' So, nobody knows exactly when The Cheat's Cheatday is, so we celebrate it on the only day we know for sure it isn't. And that's the date of birth on his fake I.D.

''{A fake identification card appears, titled "SCANDINAVIAN FAKE I.D.," giving a name of Ilko Skevüld, date of birth of 4/18/1961, height of 6-9, weight of 293, and a type of "Miner." A profile view of a man whose hair vaguely resembles The Cheat with a swirly chin, an underbite and The Cheat-type eyes is featured. The card is signed with Ilko's name.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{still typing}'' Which says he's a 43-year-old Scandinavian miner named Ilko Skevüld. The festivities usually begin when—

''{Cut to Strong Bad sleeping on couch}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' —The Cheat wakes me up around the crack of noon, and I'll sing him the Date of Birth song.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{pokes Strong Bad and making The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{mumbling}'' Super...Super Contra...

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{pokes Strong Bad again and makes the same The Cheat noises}''

''{Strong Bad grunts and sits up. A bag of Potate chips sits atop his head. The Cheat grins and bats his eyes several times.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. Right, right. ''{clears throat, sings}'' Sweet, sweet The Cheat, today is the day on your fake I.D.

''{The Potate chips bag falls off Strong Bad's head and lands out of sight. Bubs appears from behind the couch, playing a keytar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now, get upstairs—unh! And fix me some breakfast.

''(Bubs breaks off into a solo. Strong Bad and The Cheat lean in angrily.)''

'''BUBS:''' Hey, that's a good jam! We should cut a—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Get outta here, kid!

''{Bubs hides behind the couch. Strong Bad affectionately pats The Cheat on the head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' After breakfast, in honor of Ilko's heritage, we'll usually play some mining games...

''{Cut to a scene in a field. Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat, all with helmets equipped with flashlights, stand around a pile of charcoal briquettes. Strong Bad holds a shovel, and The Cheat a pickaxe.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{continuing voiceover}'' ...like... Mining... and... Coal?

''{The Cheat half-heartedly plunks his pickaxe into the ground.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' I WIN!

''{We return to Strong Bad typing his response.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And then as a special treat, I let The Cheat answer some emails.

''{Strong Bad gets up, and The Cheat takes his place. He brings up an email.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{reading}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none">i want to know whos beter you or 
the cheat or strong mad? 
 
your friend 
ryan az</blockquote>

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{typing}'' Yeah, man. I'll gnaw your face off. - Teh C. ''{brings up new email, reads}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none">hey, sb! 
what's up? i was just wondering 
what you're mom and dad look like. 
 
please answer, 
bridget thornton, co</blockquote>

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{typing}'' Yeah, man. I'll gnaw your face off. - Teh C. ''{brings up new email, reads}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none">make more trogdor pleasepleaseplease 
 
p.s. pay out strong sad</blockquote>

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{typing}'' Yeah, man. I'll gnaw your face off. - Teh C.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{apparently recovering from laughing}'' O-ho, man! "I'll gnaw your face off"!

''{The Cheat grins}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Every year it gets funnier! Ohhh! ''{regains composure.}'' Happy The Cheat day, Ilko! May you never get the black lung.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Click on the nameless email to bring up a box of No-Name Brand E-mails.
*At the end, click on The Cheat to bring up Ilko's head moving from left to right, with his mouth opening and shutting, along with the rhythm of a train bell sound.
*Also at the end, click on the floppy disks on the left to bring up a demo tape:
*:Coach Z & Bubs's Demo Tape
*:"the two-o duo"
*:''{singing}''
*:'''COACH Z:''' Well we're good friends.
*:'''BUBS:''' But don't you steal my napkins.
*:'''COACH Z:''' I got fresh jams.
*:'''BUBS:''' But I get all the royalties.
*:'''COACH Z:''' ''{talking}'' I never agreed to that.

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*The name "Mike Control" is a form of "Mic Control", or "Microphone Control". The term is backcronym for MC, which was formally [[Wikipedia:Master of Ceremonies|Master of Ceremonies]]. "Microphone Controle" came to be first used in rap music during the 1970s and 1980s. Strong Bad's incantation is rhythmically similar to a section of the [[Wikipedia:Beastie Boys|Beastie Boys']] song "Jimmy James" from their ''Check Your Head'' album.
*[[Wikipedia:Pneumoconiosis#Black lung disease|Black lung disease]] is a lung condition caused by the inhalation of coal dust. It is also similar to the result of long-term smoking.
**It was revealed in [[Where's The Cheat?]] that The Cheat is a smoker.
*The [[Wikipedia:Keytar|Keytar]] ('''Key'''board + Gui'''tar''') is the name given to the musical keyboard synthesizer that is fashioned into the shape of a guitar. It is also known as a Gui-Board ('''Gui'''tar+key'''board''').
*[[Internet Slang|''Teh'']] is a common misspelling of ''the'', a mistake often made by typing too quickly. The mistake is common enough that most word processors have an automatic fix to spot instances of teh. The Compy 386 obviously doesn't have one of those. However, the misspelling itself is a staple of [[Wikipedia:Leetspeak|Leetspeak]].

=== Trivia ===
*Two of the three emails that The Cheat answers are in [[The Brothers Chaps]]' top five [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006#Pre-animation Process - 4:05 p.m.|commonly sent emails that will not be answered]] ([[Parents]] and [[Draw Trogdor Again]]).
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#bushido|bushido]]".

===Remarks===
*The [[Strong Bad Main Page]] refers to The Cheat's Cheatday party as his "birthday party."
*There actually ''is'' a chance, albeit a very small one, that The Cheat's birthday was on April 18, 1961.
*Strong Bad said nobody knows when The Cheat's Cheatday is, though almost every character witnessed the event in [[flashback]]. (This is assuming that The Cheat was "born" from the egg. Technically, we don't know ''how'' he got inside it.)
**It could also be that Strong Bad made up the events of flashback, as suggested in those email's remarks.
*It's possible that Ilko being a "miner" is a play on the purpose of the fake ID (an attempt to persuade people that The Cheat ''isn't'' a [[wikipedia:Minor (law)|minor]]).
*You can still click on the Ilko Easter egg after you've clicked on the floppy disk Easter egg.
*The ID card says Ilko's birthday is April 18, yet this email was released on July 5 and The Cheat answering emails is not presented as a flashback.
*Even though the [[Potate]] bag appears to be sitting on top of Strong Bad's head (it doesn't seem to be attached or stuck in any way), it manages to not fall off, even though Strong Bad is moving his head a lot while singing.

=== Goofs ===
*Strong Bad types "scandnavian" as opposed to "scandinavian" as the fake ID appears in the screen. It can be seen only for a split second on the Compy's screen before Strong Bad clears it.

===Inside References===
*The "[[Potate]]" bag is from [[morning routine]].
*This is another instance of Strong Bad's [[couch mumbling]].
*The custom of The Cheat answering emails is truly a special one indeed, since it is said that he never answers them in [[huttah!]].
*This is the first appearance of [[Bubs's Keytar]].
*The crunching noise of the "[[Potate]]" Bag is also in [[morning routine]]. It is repeated when Strong Bad is walking from the couch into the computer room in Morning Routine.

===Real-World References===
*The game [[Strong Bad]] says in his sleep is [[Wikipedia:Super Contra|''Super Contra'']], a notoriously difficult sidescrolling shooter arcade game. It was released on the [[Nintendo|NES]] under the title ''Super C''.
*The ringing Ilko head may be a reference to Mr. Machine, a popular toy made by Ideal Toy Corp. in 1960. Mr. Machine was a wind up 'man' who would walk, open, and close his mouth while a bell rung in his stomach.
*The Ilko head may also be a reference to an Easter egg in the Nintendo 64 game Cruisin' USA. A player had to achieve a "Hot Time" on any stage. After entering their initials, the player would scroll down to the bottom of the screen, then hold Left on the analog stick for about 35 seconds. A head of similar characteristics would roll across the conveyer belt. The ringing noise heard in this toon is the same as the ringing noise made by the rollers on the conveyor belt.

===Fast Forward===
*''Cheatday'' as opposed to ''birthday'' is a practice later used with [[Trogdor]]'s [[Happy Trogday|Trogday]]. Strong Bad also mentions "Flashday" in [[Flash's 10th Birthday]].
*In [[narrator]], Bubs and Coach Z again argue about a napkin.
*A keytar is later seen in [[coloring]].
*Strong Bad wears a mining helmet again in [[Ever and More!]].
*The Two-o Duo later show up for a "once-in-a-lifetime reunion performance" in [[Baddest of the Bands]].
*Strong Bad apparently shows a picture of his parents in [[the chair]], although the picture is never actually seen.

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Marzipan]])

'''MIKE:''' Hey, Marzipan.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hi, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' It's just the two of us doing the commentary on this email here.

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's right.

'''MIKE:''' Matt's on the phone.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I think he's in the bathroom.

'''MIKE:''' Ohhhh. So, uh, what the— have you seen this email?

'''MARZIPAN:''' No, I try not to watch the emails.

'''MIKE:''' Really?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I get upset by them.

'''MIKE:''' Why?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Because...I don't know. I just— they make me sad.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Sometimes.

'''MIKE:''' Sometimes.

'''MARZIPAN:''' What's this one about, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' It's about The Cheat's birthday.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Really? What day is his birthday?

'''MIKE:''' Well, you'll find out if you watch. Here, he tells you right here.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Do they have a party?

'''MIKE:''' Listen. Nobody knows when it is.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I once had a boyfriend who had a hairdo like that.

'''MIKE:''' Really? Was his name Ilko?

'''MARZIPAN:''' It was.

'''MIKE:''' Wow. You dated Ilko Skevüld?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I did. But don't tell anybody that's how we got the I.D.

'''MIKE:''' Ohhhhhh. Wow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Interesting. You helped The Cheat get a fake I.D.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Cool.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' Sweet, sweet, The Cheat. ''{stops singing}'' I actually wrote that song.

'''MIKE:''' Really?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah. ''{sings}'' Breakfast.

'''MIKE:''' Good job ''{laughs}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Thanks!

'''MIKE:''' Whatchu been up to today?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, I've been out, um, riding. Riding my mule.

'''MIKE:''' You have a mule?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I do. I believe in mule riding. I think that they are very underappreciated. I like their ears a lot.

'''MIKE:''' Really? What's your mule's name?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Buttercup.

'''MIKE:''' "Buttercup The Mule", eh?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yes.

'''MIKE:''' Wow. I didn't realize mules were good for riding. You do any tricks on it or anything?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I can do, um, a "standing on the back" trick.

'''MIKE:''' Really?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yes.

'''MIKE:''' Wow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It's pretty hard. I have to do it on one leg.

'''MIKE:''' You have a leg?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I have one.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Look at The Cheat's gold tooth.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Where did he get that?

'''MIKE:''' I don't know. Maybe you should email Strong Bad and ask him someday.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Maybe.

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|107|243}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Holiday Toons]][[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

Talk:Halloween Potion-ma-jig

Jibblejibblejibble — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 20:47:52 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Location, Location, Location 2!!! */

{{featuredarticle}}
==Odd beeping noise==

Did anyone else notice kind of a high pitch squeaky noises at various parts inbetween the sections?

It's either just you, or your computer. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 01:09, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Location, location, location! ==

In Majora's Mask, there was a sidequest involving four deku scrubs in various locations. You needed to get the title deeds and trade with them. I can't remember but it is possible they used the phrase in all this. Makes sense considering the Tingle costume. --[[User:Bacon warrior|Bacon warrior]] 20:51, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:They didn't [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

:: The phrase has not only been used in contexts that have nothing whatsoever to do with The Legend of Zelda, but the sidequest in question did not involve Tingle in any way (in spite of the fact that it was in Tingle's first game). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:30, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

==A couple of transcript points==

Sounds to me more like Bubs says MAYBE you got a witch's brew goin'. Also, it sounds more like Marzipan says Homestar [[Wikipedia:Michael Winner|Michael Winner]], but that's just silly :P Also also, does Coach Z's comment on mailmen make any sense to anybody?

:The relevance of "baby" is described in Fun Facts. Coach Z's comment was an unexpected twist to the conversation he seemed to be having with Pom Pom - up until the word "mailmen" it sounded more like they were talking about women (IMHO). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:30, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

::I thought he said "male men" the first time, but that doesn't really make much sense either. By the way, having listened to that clip quite a few times through halfdecent headphones, I still say Bubs says MAYBE, even if it is a reference...

:::Maybe Marzipan was talking 'bout [[Homeschool Winner|This Micheal]]. It sounds like it to me.--[[User:68.239.117.11|68.239.117.11]] 12:38, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Somebody noted the following in an abortive Real-World Reference:
*[[Wikipedia:Michael_Winner|Michael Winner]] is a British movie director who directed the first [[Wikipedia:Death Wish|Death Wish]] movie, among others. He celebrated his 70th birthday two days before this cartoon aired.

::::The use of "Michael" here as Homestar's nickname, to those familiar with the above director, might suggest a leap to "Winner," thus Homeschool Winner. In an even trickier twist, the words immediately preceding are "you '''win'''!" All this is pure conjecture, of course, and shouldn't be included in the article, but I find the possibility intriguing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:29, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

==Now that IS scary==
Holy freaking cow. No wonder it was taking them such a long time. This is gonna be a nightmare (in a good way) to wiki, what with the Inside Ref.s and the Real World Ref.s and the like... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:37, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Quick, find whoever did [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]'s transcript and let them have a go here... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:P.S. May I also not say that I am not, in any way, mean. --[[User:DorianGray|My real name is Sean]]
::That was [[User:Krem|Krem]]. Yes, I actually bothered to go to the old wiki, look it up (which was really easy since the credit is given at the bottom of the page), and then checked that user name against the current user list here. 'Twas the same person. (Of course it helped that right there on his/her current user page it says: "I did about 2/3 of the transcript for The House that Gave Sucky Treats".) Wow, I can't believe I actually did that. Just goes to show you just how fried my brain is at 1:47 in the morning. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:47, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

my real name is sean too! doriangray-[[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 22:09, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm assuming none of us are mean. If we were, we'd be trolls. [[User:ACupOfCoffee|Also named Sean]]

How'd this discussion friggin' develop, anyway? [[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|'Nother guy named Sean]]
:dunno. [[User:Bubsty|Some guy who's '''''not''''' named Sean]].
::I started it with a little remark about the nasty ant Homestar draws called Mean Sean. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Homestar's transformations ==
I've figured out that what Homestar turns into at the very end depends on what "essence" you get from Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat. "Essence of Doo-Doo Meringue" results in Tofu Homestar, "Essence of Strong Mad's Finger Dipped in a Glass of Warm Water" (or however it went) gives you a Marzipan with really bad teeth and a weird voice, and "Essence of Gullibility" leads to classy French Homestar. Someone might want to double check this just to make sure, though -- I only went through it 4 times.

:Yeah, that is a bit off. I got Essence of Strong Mad Prank and it resulted in Tofu Homestar. [[User:Azure Haights|Azure Haights]] 06:51, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I don't think that's it. I went through once with each item, and got [[The Goblin]], Tofu Homestar, and a cyclops Homestar. I bet a decompiler will help this one. Maybe. I dunno exactly what they do. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Essence of DooDoo got me the goblin, and SM prank got me One eye Homestar, so that theory is out. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 06:53, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:::What the?? I got Tofu Homestar each of my 3 times. I guess this thing has more potential than I thought! (Maybe it has to do with how you combine the choices? I picked the same number each time—i.e. AAA, BBB, CCC, etc. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:55, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::: 3^5=243 combinations. Let's divide and conquer!
::::If anyone knows how those online quizzes work, I bet it's like that. I've always wondered how they worked... Random answers match you to the perfect character. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Ghost(1), Herbs+Spices, DooDoo Merigne(1),1,3 = Marzipan Clone w/ bad teeth
::::::Wait, guys, if we're really going to do this, let's make a table. And use numbers (1-3), as above. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:02, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::All I know is that this sure sounds like something [[Jonathan Howe]] would be behind. Have fun figuring it out.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:04, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Right. This could be a complicated table... I'm-a try it on paper first. Y'know, list all the combinations: 11111, 11112, etc. You guys start the table. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::It seems as though the result is dependent on the sum of the choices. A sum divisible by 5 results in tofu homestar, 12 (and presumably 7) results in french homestar, and 11 (and presumably 6) results in cyclops homestar. I have personally tested 2,2,2,2,3 (cyclops homestar), and used the information provided by other users for this conclusion.
I'm going to sleep have fun. --[[User:24.21.231.89|24.21.231.89]] 07:35, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:hehe, one more, I did 1,1,1,1,3 again (my 2nd time) and got French Homstar this time, I'm wondering if they are all random? something to check into. Night--[[User:24.21.231.89|24.21.231.89]] 07:53, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Tally up another French Homestar for 1,1,1,1,3. I was trying to go through all the transformations and got him with that combination. I hope there are a few super-secret combinations to try. Also, this may not be the place to say it, but I love this cartoon. I was worried TBC were making it at the last minute but regardless, they've done an excellent job. Top notch! Good prize! Great jorb! --[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 11:27, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::2,1,[[Homsar]],1,3,3=[[Tofu Homestar]]--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 18:32, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
=== The Table ===

''{table removed}''

Um, do we need this list? It sure is taking up a lot of room. Has the mathematical threory been proven? If so, doesn't that render this list obsolete? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:47, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Seriously! Someone who knows what's what please confirm, cause at the moment it's... pretendous. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:27, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Well, [[User:Gus]] has transcribed the list by character to his talk page. I think it can be removed from here. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I think a better way is to arrange the effects by their supposed outcome based on the formula on tha main page, and see if that works. I've already done that on my talk page; if we want to copy it in here, by all means, do. [[User:Gus|Gus]] 19:38, 1 November 2005 (UTC) EDIT: Oh wow, DorianGray, you're fast. [[User:Gus|Gus]] 19:40, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm sorry, but that table was just too long. I have removed it and replaced it with the section below. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:19, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

=== The Code ===
This is the code for the ending:
<pre>function showEnding () {
var _local3 = 0
for ( var _local2 = 0; _local2 < TOTAL_QUESTIONS; _local2++){
_local3 = (_local3) + answers[_local2]
}
_local3 = (_local3) % 5
_root.gotoAndPlay("end" + (_local3) + 1)
}</pre>

The program reads through an array of <code>answers[]</code> and adds them into a variable called <code>_local3</code>. It then divides that figure by 5 and takes the remainder. It adds 1 to the result and plays the frames that correspond to the following labels:
<pre>end1: tofu
end2: eyeball
end3: Frenchman
end4: grodelated Marzipan
end5: the Goblin</pre>
So the mathematical theory is correct. By the way, the code just says "end1", "end2", etc. The descriptions listed there are just what I called them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:19, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

For some reason I get something different:
<pre>function showEnding()
{
var _l3 = 0;
var _l2 = 0;
while (_l2 < TOTAL_QUESTIONS)
{
_l3 = _l3 + answers[_l2];
++_l2;
} // end while
_l3 = _l3 % 5;
_root.gotoAndPlay("end" + (_l3 + 1));
} // End of the function</pre>
Using Sothink SWF Decompiler 2005b. Must be something in the ActionScript that was extracted.--[[User:68.215.67.181|68.215.67.181]] 00:25, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:I only know a little about ActionScript, but my guess is that the difference lies in the way that the programs reverse-engineer (as well as interpret) the ActionScript, which is supposed to be a type of Machine-like language. Less sophisticated programs may not be able to extract all of the original information and produce code that's closer to the original. However both functions, in fact, produce exactly the same code! (''for'' loops are nothing more than glorified ''while'' loops) Hope that helps. ''On another note:'' [[Talk:Halloween_Potion-ma-jig#Order_of_transformations|Tofu IS first!]] I was right! hehe Oh, wait, It's Dot com already pointed that out. Nevermind, just call me captain obvious. Thanks, <s>'tis</s> Dot com! (How does that sound, too over the edge? Shall I stick to It's or just <s>plain old, vanilla old, flavored old,</s> Dot com . . . ?)--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:12, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::Whoa, now hold on there... ''Dot com'' is not vanilla. It's dot com is my long name, the name I use to sign with. My official name. Dot com is my familiar name, the one I like to be addressed by in conversation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:04, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I stand corrected. It is not vanilla, for you are anything but. That is twue! I shall make note of that in future posts! Now I must get sleep. My bed beckons me forth. Good night all! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:17, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Transformations theory... ==

As someone who's done a little basic programming, I know one of the EASIEST ways TBC might have made this system work. Each option you select has a value attached to it, either 1, 2, or 3. When you select it, it gets added to a total value, at the end, your total value decides the transformation. This means that each set of choices probably has one 1-point option, one 2-point option, and one 3-point option. This is supported by the fact that some of the encounters seem to have a "best" choice, such as doing a dance for Bubs or getting the Ghost Water (outlined in the ingredients) from Coach Z. Chances are there's a special transformation if you get all the 3-point answers. Just a theory. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 07:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

==Halloween Costumes==
Someone put up the halloween costume list in the fun facts. I removed it, because that belongs in the halloween costumes article. -- [[user:DJ Teh Cheat|DJ Teh Cheat]]

Also, i noticed that someone put costume defenitions in the outside references. do these belong here, or should we keep them on the halloween costumes page? -- The Same Guy as the Last Thing

* I was just wondering, what was the toon where either Pom Pom or Strong Bad kept poking Homestar in the face with a needle and then it looked like he had a bad case of acne? I don't know if Homestar's Moocher costume is a reference to that or not but I'm dying to see that toon again. [[User:Colonel Burnsides|Colonel Burnsides]]
:I beleive you answered the question yourself! I searched for the toon, and it turns out it's the [[pom pom]] strong bad email! As for a moocher reference... I don't know. Actually, I don't think so. Um, let me correct myself: I seriously doubt it. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:09, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::And please note that it's already in Inside Refs. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:21, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

==Homestar Variations==
Should we plan on making seperate stub articles for French Homestar, One eyeball Homestar, and Freaky Marzipan? or should we wait and see if they ever reappear? -- [[user:DJ Teh Cheat|DJ Teh Cheat]]
:Prob just wait to see if they reappear -[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

== Order of transformations ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Halloween_Potion-ma-jig&diff=187936&oldid=187935 True]! I wouldn't mind numbering them 0-4 myself. It just bothers me a little, listing 1 as the first one, knowing that programmatically, 0 is really first (in terms of ordering). Oh, the bane that is modular arithmetic. Yes, I am being pedantic. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:59, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
: Whatever works. 1-5 is easier to read for the average person who doesn't care about calculating which ending they're gonna get. 0-4 works better with the Trivia fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:05, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I concur! (My eye's still twitching a little but I can live with that ;) )--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:06, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::1-5 is best, because that's what they're called in the code. As you can see from the function above, the program adds 1 to the result to get the ending scene. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:21, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== Bucket O' Chicken ==

I noticed the Bucket of chicken dealy, and do remember seeing it somewhere. However I am having a hard time finding it on the [[theme park]] page, much less any mention of Knf'nC, or chicken, or King of town and chicken, or any such combination. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
: That was a mistake on my part, and I already fixed it. Sorry for the trouble. (It was in [[monster truck]], BTW.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:15, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::No problem! I found the related info and it's all looking G-O-O-O-..-O-O-..-O-D goood! Great job all! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:17, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Are the Bros. Chaps getting racier with their toons? KnF'nC seems like a prety direct reference to 'F***in' and Homestar sing about 'getting lucky tonight' - what about the kids? -- Steve-o 11/1/05
: Uh, I'd say it's more a pretty direct reference to the fact that 'n' can be used as a contraction for "and": "K and F and C", giving us the familiar letters in a non-registered-servicemark-infringing form. As for a reference to "getting lucky"... if kids understand what that means before they "should", that's on their parents. That's the whole point of a euphemism... it can be used in mixed company. Besides, who are we to say what "getting lucky" means in Homestar's head? All in all, I'd worry about where your mind is going and let TBC worry about theirs... [[User:Awkwardconversationalist|Awkwardconversationalist]] 21:04, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:: Personally, I'd be more concerned about the "Essence of Putting Strong Mad's Hand in Warm Water While He's Asleep". - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 21:35, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Via the [[monster truck]] article:
::<blockquote>The chicken bucket that says "KnF'nC" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Guns N' Roses|Guns N' Roses]], who used the acronym "GnF'nR" during the [[Wikipedia:Use Your Illusion I|Use Your Illusion]] era. The latest incarnation of the band contains guitarist [[Wikipedia:Buckethead|Buckethead]], who wears a [[Wikipedia:KFC|KFC]] bucket on his head like a hat.</blockquote>
:::We know this because it's mentioned directly in the DVD commentary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:53, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:::About that "Essence of putting Strong Mad's Hand in Warm Water While He's Asleep", I read somewhere that people do that to others during sleepovers to make them go to the bathroom while they're asleep. I could be wrong, but that's what I remember. --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 01:46, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:Strong Bad torturing Strong Sad is ok for kids, but everytime something in a h*r toon comes too close to a sexual innuendo some people freak out!-- [[User:Vl-tone|vl-tone]] 07:12, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

== Terlet Brush? ==

I think that "Terlet Brush" is a reference to A Folky Tale. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

how?--[[User:Benol|Coach B]] 12:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

When Coach Z says that Saddy Dumpington sounds kinda like a Terlet. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:"Terlet" is from the last Halloween toon. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:11, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

The word 'terlet' is just an 'accented' way of saying toilet. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

==Original list==
How was the original list determined? I've looked at the bug and duck obscured list that homestar is carrying, and I have a hard time buying the supposed original items. the frist letter of what should be "Ghost" according to this list has a flat top.--sarducci
: Consider the font used. It ''is'' "Ghost-Water". Which, by the way, is the only item on the original list that can actually be obtained (if we assume that the JP3 spoon isn't made of wood.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:41, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
: Also, if you get Ghost-Water in the actual 'toon, look at how it's written on the scorecard, which uses the exact same font. It's a flat-topped capital G. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:43, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I used a Flash decompiler when I transcribed the original list. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:44, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

==Jellybeans==

Reagan's predilection for jellybeans was not legendary. See the New York Times, January 15, 1981, [http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FA0B17FA3F5F0C768DDDA80894D9484D81 "Halcyon Era for the Jellybean."]

:I think you're confusing definitions of "legendary." When one says: Reagan's prediliction for jellybeans was legendary, one means that it is "well known and worth telling stories about," not "mythical." Like one might say, "legendary" singer-songwriter Bob Dylan and not mean he's a yeti or something.

::Undeniable! But the version I was responding to read "at least according to legend." [[User:Minivet|Minivet]] 02:08, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== 4th wall breaking? ==

Umm, when Homestar says "Oh, great. The secret guy" is he breaking the 4th wall? I belive we should add that somewhere. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}
:Hmm... perhaps you should check out [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], where it has already been added. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:40, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== Opening scenario a reference? ==

Can any of the gamer-types tell me whether the opening "I'm lost in this haunted mansion and I need your help to find..." setup is a reference to a specific game? Seems like it ought to be. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:42, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I can't think of any specific games, but this is a commonly used plot device in game genres involving puzzles, mazes and the like. The most recent game I can think of that employed this device is '''Pac Pix''' for the Nintendo DS, in which Pac-Man gets trapped as a drawing in a book, and he says he needs your help to free him. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:00, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Additionally, I submit this is NOT a reference to Luigi's Mansion (GameCube), as Luigi wasn't trapped in the mansion and didn't specifically ask for the player's help. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:02, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, that was the only thing that came to my mind in connection with haunted mansions, but even I was fairly sure it wasn't that, and my knowledge doesn't extend far beyond Tetris and the first few levels of SuperMarioWorld! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:20, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I think the haunted mansion thing is basically a cliche... There are a million of 'em, I bet. Like ''The Haunted Mansion'', a Disney movie-slash-game. Although it does sound vaguely familiar... Think old stuff. Like the Floppy Disk Container. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Actually, it just occurred to me that "I/We/They Need Your Help!" is a common theme in [[Wikipedia:Choose Your Own Adventure]] books, which are what this Toon is obviously based on. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 21:39, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:by the way, the line from the start that says "I'm selling these fine leather jackets" is a quote from the video game "the curse of monkey island, and possibly other games in the Monkey Island Series. - [[User:rando|random]] 21:39, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
It is a reference, to FMV-based adventure games. I added that... but we should probably find a more family-friendly example of FMV adventure games than Phantasmagoria.

== Walter ==

I don't know about the rest of you, but I was dying with laughter when I saw Pom Pom dressed as Walter Soebchek from The Big Lebowski. My friends and I love that movie and it has some of the best quotes I've heard. Anyway, just wanted to voice my pleasure. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]

:That's what happens, Langham. That's what happens when you hack a wiki in the back door!

::LMAO!!!

== Tofu Homestar Update? ==

I just watched the toon for the first time earlier today, and the Tofu Homestar ending is different than what is listed in the transcript. In the version I saw, the top block of Tofu actually does fall off, and it lands in the cauldron with a splash. This cuases Homestar to transform to his usual look, and Marzipan says once again that Homestar is back to his usual self, this time in a disappointed-sounding tone. Homestar then proceeds to tell Marzipan that her costume makes her butt look big.
:Yup; they updated the toon! and now the transcript's been updated too. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:26, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== Gossamer Goof ==

Um, sorry TBC, but Gossamer was not the bright orange color you depicted him as. Not even in his first appearance. He was red. Straight red. Even his cameos in the Looney Tunes movies he was red. -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 14:35, 1 November 2005 (CST)
:Hey, you're right. If you want to add it under Goofs (or Remarks), that seems right to me. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::you do realize that TBC, probably don't read the wiki talk pages, right? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:54, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I think they knew that (Gossamer was red). I noticed that too but didn't make much of it for some reason (cue in willing suspension of disbelief). I can only guess that they made him orange as a Halloween Gag (or even to avoid copyright issues? -- ha! right. Though save that one difference he does look a lot like gossimer.) BTW where is there mention of this in the page again? Is it in the transcript, RWR? I couldn't find mention of this. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:03, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Nevermind guys, I found where it's [[Halloween_Costumes#Halloween_Potion-ma-jig_.282005.29|mentioned]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:05, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== How Do They Know? ==
How do they (who ever they are) know what the origanal posion read?
# You can read it yourself if you pause the Flash file and look really close.
# It's dot com used a Flash decompiler on it; it exists in the Flash file without the bug and duckie drawings. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:23, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Plus, I have spooky Halloween powers. ''Seeeeee... Seeeeeeeeee...'' (that's the sound eyeballs make, in case it didn't come across in text). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:35, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== Throw a TV on 'im! ==

*"Throw a TV on 'im!" is an oblique reference to [[virus]], where Strong Bad says "Drop a train on 'em!"

I added this inside reference, and it was removed a bit later due to "questionable merit" (by someone who doesn't have a user page, I noticed). So I figured I'd mention it here and see if people agree on whether it should be included as a Fun Fact or not. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 21:47, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
: This is what [[STUFF]] is for, but I personally don't think it's a reference, if only because of the absence of the word "drop." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:49, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== Homsar's highlight ==

This fact has been added and deleted multiple times:

In the costume gallery, Homsar is available if you found him. However, he can still be highlighted even others are talking.

The last time with:

Homsar can be highlighted because he is a sprite overlaying the scene

But how does that make it not a goof? Obviously, TBC went out of their way to remove the ability to highlight all of the other characters, so Homsar's highlight does seem rather Goof-ish to me. Don't utter the words "Flash artifact"; this doesn't fit the description. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:59, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
: My (partial) mistake; it's listed in Remarks. I still think it's a Goof. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:: I agree on the goofishness. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 22:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::: It has to do with how the Flash file is set up. Whenever you're able to highlight the characters, you're looking at a particular frame. When you click on one of them, it moves to a different spot in the file and plays the appropriate mini-scene. You can't click on the characters because there are no buttons in these frames. When the mini-scene is done, it goes back to the costumes frame. To insert Homsar into the scene, they just created a sprite with him in it and overlayed it at the end. The sprite is the same whether you're looking at the costumes frame or one of the mini-scenes, which is why it behaves the same way in both instances (just like Homestar's eyes blink even when the file is paused). If they ''really'' wanted to, they could have done any number of workarounds to this, but, being on a deadline, you can hardly fault them for doing it the easiest way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::: Regardless of the technical reason for it, the end result is that Homsar's "overlay" behaves differently than all of the rest of the characters, without a good visible reason to the casual user. That's why I think it should still be listed as a goof, even knowing the mechanism by which it occurs. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 22:40, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::: What? The technical reason is why it ''shouldn't'' be listed as a goof. Goofs are when TBC make an actual ''mistake''. This is not a mistake; therefore, it is just a remark. If you really wanted to, you could list it as a glitch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:55, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Actually, glitches seems like a good place for it, so I moved it there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:25, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::: My two and one half cents: A glitch implies that Flash is behaving in a way that it should not. Flash is behaving exactly as it should, though. Wot. --[[User:65.184.26.220|65.184.26.220]] 19:08, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: You have a good point, 65. But a Goof implies that TBC are behaving in ways that ''they'' should not. TBC put that scene together exactly as they should, so it's not a Goof. Goofs should be reserved for bona fide mistakes. If Glitches is out, then that just leaves Remarks. But on the other hand, I think Glitches is a good fit for this fact, because putting it there highlights pecularities in the Flash file without stigmatizing the result. I think that's the direction the Glitches category is ultimately taking. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:52, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Hi guys. When the page was being built I was actually the first one to move this comment from a goof to a remark. The way I saw it at the time was that, even if they had time limitations to deal with, and given that putting homesar in there the right way would be much work, I thought and still think that it was purposely left the way it was made because it was "homesar-ish". The odd behavior fits perfectly with... well... everything else he does. One way or another I'm pretty sure that TBC knew of the flash limitations and that it would behave the way it does now. In the end they probably decided this would be a good way to present homesar's easter egg. Following that line of reasoning I think it belongs as a remark. That's just my opinion. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:09, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Eyes ==

Did anyone else notice that Marzipan's eyes, in the beginning, cause a bit of her facial outline to disappear when she blinks? You have to zoom in, and it's only the duration of her blinking, so you have to have a sharp eye. A possible goof?— {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:18, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Welcome to the Homestar Runner Wiki, where parts of outlines disappearing for fractions of a second are noticed. All sarcasm aside, it ''is'' interesting. Add it on. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::LOL! That is so true (the noticing part)! That cracked me up! Anyway, for the record, I have not YET checked to verify the comment. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:02, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Strange Looking Marzipan ==

Does anyone else consider the appearance of the Strange Looking Marzipan to be similar to that of Salad Fingers? Especially the teeth? This might just be me because I was recently exposed to the horrors of Salad Fingers ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salad_fingers]) but I still think it is worthy of consideration for a real world reference. [[User:Colonel Burnsides|Colonel Burnsides]] 23:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I always just figured it a culmination of the "horrifying" PBTC Marzipan from [[mile]] and [[modeling|The Dame With Hard-To-Look-At Teeth]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:Oh gods... I hate you, Burnsides. I followed that link and watched the Salad Fingers toons and I can't remember the last time I was as thoroughly creeped out. Reading the theories about it on the wikipedia afterwards didn't help either. I think I'll have that stuff stuck in my head for months... -Krendal

:Salad Fingers gives me the Jibblies.--Jhonka

== Endings ==
Can someone please put mirrors of the endings? [[User:Mini-Trogdor|Mini-Trogdor]]
:Try downloading the [http://www.eltima.com/download/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler], then saving the flash file from the bottom of the article. You can move backwards and forwards all over the place! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:38, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::A seek bar is also good for quick access. I don't have a good link, but I know there's one around here somewhere. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::There's [http://www.globfx.com/downloads/swfplayer/ Swiff Player] or [http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=84358&release_id=367150 Media Player Classic]. They're both free. [[User:gt|gt]]

== Same middle name. ==

Homestar has the same middle name as me, my name is Spincer Micheal Johnson. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]
:Neat. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::Yea, I guess that's a better chance than your first or last names. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:20, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::It must be a reference to you! ;)
:Do you spell it Mich''ea''l or Mich''ae''l as I do? (It's my first name, but I go by my middle) --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
::Micheal, man. {{User:Bassium!/sig}}

== Possible Ref ==

This may be a ref when the KOT is digging for something he baried when he was 9 and now can't find it may be a ref to the film Stand By Me when one of the kids I can't remember witch one. Buried a jar of pennies when he's 9 and then can't find it when he's older.
:Can anyone verify this? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I saw the movie, but I think that is a stretch. Besides, I think if we put any more references, this article might pop. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 00:02, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Different endings ==

Can I get one combolation of choices that produces each of the endings? Thanks ahead of time. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:How about End 1 (1, 3, 2, 3, 1); End 2 (3, 1, 3, 2, 2); End 3 (1, 3, 1, 1, 1); End 4 (3, 1, 3, 3, 3); and End 5 (2, 2, 2, 1, 2). Those will give you a different ending each time, as well as show each different stop along the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:15, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks a ton, dot com! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
*thanx alot!
*This is a combination calculated to minimize repeats:
:*Choices: Z-1, King-1, Bad-2, Bubs-3, Sad-3; Ending#1: Tofu
:*Choices: Z-2, King-3, Bad-3, Bubs-2, Sad-1; Ending#2: Cyclops
:*Choices: Z-1, King-2, Bad-1, Bubs-1, Sad-2; Ending#3: French
:*Choices: Z-3, King-3, Bad-2, Bubs-2, Sad-3; Ending#4: Freak Marzi
:*Choices: Z-2, King-1, Bad-1, Bubs-3, Sad-2; Ending#5: Goblin
:[[User:Oogabooga|Oogabooga]] 01:52, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

== Chuck Taylor Reference? ==

In my opinion, Homestar said "The woods are chuck full of.." or something to that effect. This may refer to his shoes, Converse All-Stars, or Chuck Taylors. What do you think?
:I think he simply mispronounced the word "chock" - the term "chock full" is a common phrase. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:02, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::Althought Strong Bad did mention this once before when he said "Chuck Taylor wearing low self-esteemers." {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:05, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Found it: [[best thing]] (the Limozeen cartoon episode). Given that, I think this reference is possible, but it may be a bit of a stretch, considering (a) Homestar wasn't talking about his shoes, and (b) "chock full" is still a common phrase that is entirely appropriate for this context. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:17, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Date of release ==

While I do agree that it was released a little too late, shouldn't we (and don't we always) go by the official date on the [[Main Pages]]? I remember [[A Folky Tale]] was released shortly after midnight, but TBC called it a Monday update, and so did we. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:10, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:This wasn't just a little after midnight, this was 1:30 a.m. Atlanta time. They admitted they were late with their message: "It's still Halloween in certain timezones." Sorry, guys, but you released it in November. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:31, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah but like TBC said, it was still October in some time zones ''including'' the Mountain Time Zone which is Utah's time zone and thus the time zone where the server for this wiki resides, is it not!? ;) So by their own admission they've confessed to releasing it for those time zones, and I am sure that they set their watches so that they'd have the "correct" time of 11:30 MST. :D --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:49, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:Ummm... no. They just tried to release it at least in time to let a few time zones appreciate it. Those would be: 
#Midway island; Samoa.
#Hawaii.
#Alaska.
#The West Coast, most notably British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, California, and a bit of Mexico. To a lesser extent, I think the Yukon's also in there.
#And Mountain time. Which has some Alberta, Utah, Arizona, Probably some Northwest Territories, ect.
Besides that, Halloween was over. That would also explain their 12 hour update to the toon, they released it before it was done, then fixed a few minor things they wanted. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:56, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:Whenever there's been a question regarding release time, I can always remember us going with Atlanta time.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:26, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::LOL, now *that* is a detailed time zone list if i saw any! You have done well in combatting my intellect! (However, I did reference a movie, and the source has not been revealed!) To be sure, I hope no one has taken me ''too'' seriously with this post and it's accompanying comment-- I do not want to come across as arrogant. I'm just playing a little devil's advocate. (And yes, it does make more sense to go by Atlanta time) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:57, 2 November 2005 (UTC) wil someone tell me the release of 'potion ma-jig?, in GMT time, after all this is the the toon page for it, at least -- [[http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Sinderboard_and_plaster cardboard]] - near going loco 13:02, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

==The Cheat Noises==

I missed the discussion (if there ever was any), did we ever come to a decision about guessing what The Cheat says, and noting it in the transcript. Because The Cheat is obviously (to me) saying "I'm the best!", a phrase Toad often said, such as in Mario Kart. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:36, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:I think we did decide that we don't put words in The Cheat's mouth. However, I also think we can make an exception this time, since what The Cheat is saying is a direct reference to Mario Kart 64 and similar. If he wasn't in costume, I'd say no, but... It's okay if he is. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yeah, we should just forget about trying to translate the "the cheat" noises there. To hard. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:00, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::The previous discussion was at [[HRWiki_talk:Standards#Standardize_.22The_Cheat_Noises.22|HRWiki:Standards]]. The best thing I had to say there regarding the situation here was this: "I do believe that there does exist that tiny fraction where it actually sounds like he's saying something. But these cases are quite rare." So, if it really can be determined (from context or whatever) that he's saying "I'm the best", then it should at least be mentioned somewhere. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:11, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::::''Edit Conflict:'' I agree. There are several instances where I've heard noises that are very close to the words that would fit perfectly in context. I beleive some of those words might even be in the SB email easter egg where we have his noises translated by a notable expert in the field of The Cheat-speak. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:02, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I thought all the "Learn to speak The Cheat" entries were already in the transcripts. That should be checked on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:03, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Oh! They could be... I wasn't saying they weren't. I was just pointing out that what was heard was very close to matching its translation. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:23, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I for one am highly in favor of adding a Fun Fact, that "I'm The Best" is a common Toad phrase. However, in order to do so, it would likely first need to be added to the transcript. Surprisingly enough, it was rather hard to find proof that he actually says that line on the Mario Kart series. But for any who might question this, I found a [http://www.guitartabs.cc/forum/index.php?automodule=blog&blogid=2&cmd=showentry&eid=132 couple] [http://www.smbhq.com/mkstory.htm of] [http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=legacy&message.id=125023&page=5 links] [http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/n64/review/R26114.html that] [http://forums.hyperactive.com.au/archive/index.php/t-2686.html say] [http://www.google.com/search?q=Mario+Kart+Toad+%22I%27m+The+Best%22&hl=en&hs=WOo&lr=&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&start=10&sa=N otherwise]. Are there any objections to me adding it to the transcript? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:00, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:None whatsoever from me. As a Nintendo fan--and supporter of Toad's Mario Kart 64 voice (as opposed to Super Mario Sunshine and later games)--I think this is very noteable. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I also don't like the way the transcript explains "Poomp" as being the effect made when Toad crashes. It has very little do to with Toad crashing, but it always happens when I kart lands after going off a high cliff. I think it should be reworded to reflect that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
::Yeah, someone get that outta there. It's already explained in the fun facts. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Done. I thought it was worded like a fun fact, which doesn't belong in the transcripts. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

== An early version ==

The version I watched when the toon first came out is different than the version that exists now. Basically, I have a version open in a browser window from last night, and it doesn't have The Cheat's Easter egg OR Homestar returning to himself after turning into tofu. I'm trying to find it in my temp folders. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 04:54, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah there's been some mention of it in the discussions. I remember not seeing a The Cheat easter egg - I didn't even know there was one until you mentioned it! I have read about the Tofu thing somewhere in this talk page (and it's prolly in the FF too). Good luck finding the SWF for your old version! That'll be cool if it's still there! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:02, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::'''EDIT CONFLICT:''' Yea, I think it was already noted. Although a mirror or two under the links would be a nice touch. (New "The End" screen, Cheat "I'm The Best" easter egg, and an extended Tofu Homestar ending). {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:03, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Whoa! Two edit conflicts with the same person in the same night! <insert Twilight Zone music here> --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:13, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I still have it open in the browser window but I can't get it out. It's not in my cache any more and saving the page downloads the new one. Anyone have any ideas? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 05:39, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Hmmm... Leave it open if you can for now, and Talk to the Tom/Com duo. One of them'll probably be able to help you. I'd use the IRC Chat channel in the external links, you'll get better tech-support that way. There's gotta be a mirror or two floating around the net by now though, right?!?!?! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:51, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::I think the only way you'd be able to get it in that situation is if you can find it in your cache. Amanda, what browser are you using?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:35, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Firefox. I already searched my disk and memory cache and found the new version. It's really strange. I guess downloading the new version overrode the old version, but the old version is ''still in my browser window''. So where's it being stored on my machine? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:09, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::It appears that Flash has some sort of automatic cache, but it's set not to cache things from homestarrunner.com... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:14, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::See if "about:cache" in your location bar reveals anything interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:23, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::Uh... yeah. Quoth the me: "I already searched my disk and memory cache." I searched all the files on my computer, too. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:25, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::UPDATE: Lost the window. I accidentally opened a file that opened in the same window as the toon. Sorry guys. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:30, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh, I just noticed this conversation as I was just about to ask if anyone wanted the earliest version of this toon (that I saved about an hour after it came out.) I can send to Tom via email if he would like to add it to the wiki's mirror. In the mean time, I will add an external link to it hosted on my forum. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 03:52, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

:And if that doesn't work for any reason I gots it too. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:04, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

::Sweet stuff! I was gonna suggest earlier something like a "memory dump program" for Homestar Coder to use, but by then it was too late. Please let us know when a copy is posted in the mirror! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:22, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Um, yeah, nevermind... I *just* noticed that there's a link to it from the page. It should have occurred to me to check there first! Thanks guys! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:47, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

== The Mysterious Man of Mischief ==

We have all known for a long time that Strong Bad mercilessly torment Strong Sad. But I got to thinking after the Halloween Toon mention ''the essence of putting Strong Mad's hand in warm water'' that how many time has SB teased SM? I remember the potato salad in the drawer but are there other examples out there.

Also does anyone think that it is worth it to list the times Strong Bad has tormented other people like glueing SS's hands to his face and locking him in the bath tub at Decemberween? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:12, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:We already have [[Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad]]. I don't think we need a page like that for everybody. SB is just not a very nice person, and I don't think we need proof by cataloging every instance. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 15:16, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::But don't forget when Strong
Bad put that pasta in Strong Mad's drawers in [[old comics]]. [[User:Neox|Neox. Duh.]]

==Strong Sad n' Say==

Wouldn't Strong Sad saying "each day you die a little more" be a slight reference to Spin n' Say? I found the way he said it in this toon quite similar to the way he said it in the game. [[User:Teh_Frossty_One|Teh_Frossty_One]]
:Already noted in the article. I do think Marzipan's "Yay! Now I'm not the only girl!" is a reference to it, though. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::As for Marzi, I thought I remember saying something similar in an interview also. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:45, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::BTW, what happened to the Spin n' Say? Last time I checked it, it was something where you pushed buttons. I don't like that one. Neox again, signing out...

== Stinko-Speak ==

Isn't Strong Bad saying "That's a worthy cause if ever there was one!" a reference to [[Stinkoman]] "That's the name of a talented fighter if ever there was one."[[20X6 vs. 1936]]? [[User:20X6_GEM]]
:That's what I though at first, but it could easily be a coincidence. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::That's a worthy fun fact if ever there was one! How can it be a coincidence? If it wasn't intentional, he would have said, "That's a worthy cause if '''there ever''' was one," not the other way around. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::Actually, it's usually said the other way around. I think it counts as "common phrase". {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 23:54, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Runnin gag? ==

When Homestar's singing that song, would that be another refrence to "Eggs"? [[User:Cakeman|Cakeman]]

== Annd scene ==

Isn't Marzipan saying "ennd scene" instead of "annd scene"? I think that makes more sense...

:"And scene" is what you say at the end of a brief performance, for example in a theater workshop. A brief search turned up many results, five of which I have listed below:
:*[http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/9151/719.htm ''Friends'' episode 719]
::JOEY: '''And scene!''' Huh? Wasn’t that fun? We did a little improv there.
:*[http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/arresteddevelopment/season1/arrestdev-102.htm ''Arrested Development'' episode 102]
::TOBIAS: (screaming, singing "Amazing Grace") This isn’t a fever! (continues singing) (on the floor) Can’t even see where the knob is! (dramatic sigh) '''And scene.''' (takes a bow)
:*[http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3125643&st=30 Forum regarding ''Arrested Development'']
::I loved during the Sugarhill theme how Bateman did a sort of '''"and scene"''' movement with his hand.
:*[http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/willandgrace/season4/willandgrace-425.htm ''Will and Grace'' episode 425]
::(Broadway auditions)
::JACK: [QUIETLY TO HIMSELF] '''And scene.'''
:*[http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/willandgrace/season5/willandgrace-519.htm ''Will and Grace'' episode 519]
::(From his acting class)
::JACK: '''And scene.''' Nice work.
:— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:59, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

== Homestar gets an item ==

If it hasn't been mentioned yet, I think that the whole thing with the music and the screen that pops up when homestar acquires an item is a reference to something, but I can't recall exactly what it is from. Could it be the Legend of Zelda?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 05:14, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:Well, I think it's a reference to any number of video games, including the Zelda series. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:17, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::That particular jingle is a TBC original. I agree that it's likely modeled after video games that chime when you get a "key item", but there are too many of those games to list. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

== Shorty ==

I'm trying to figure out why Bubs calls Homestar "Shorty" (right before giving him the JP3 collector's spoon). I have two ideas: if "stick and move, stick and move" is a [[Wikipedia:Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!|Mike Tyson's Punch-Out]] reference, then it makes sense (Little Mac was extremely short). The other possibility is that the actor who played Moocher in Breaking Away, Jackie Earle Haley, was also extremely short (you can see that [http://www.imdb.com/gallery/hh/0355097/JackieEarleHaleytrophies.jpg here], although it's more noticeable while watching the movie. I lean toward the first explanation. Any thoughts? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 10:57, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
:I think it's being said in a hip-hop sense personally (figurative instead of literal) but that's probably just me. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 13:39, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

==TV ''is'' bad for you==

When The Cheat pushed the TV off the edge, the dent on top was towards the right. But when it landed next to Homestar, it was to the left. I know this is pretty minor, but I just wanted to bring it up. [[User:Teh_Frossty_One|Teh_Frossty_One]]

==...In warm water while he's asleep==

Anyone else think the essence of "putting Strong Mad's hand in warm water while he's asleep" is a reference to that prank where one put his victim's hand in cold water while said victim is asleep, causing the victim to urinate upon him/herself? Sure would explain Strong Mad calling it his secret shame. Should this go in the Real-World References? [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 20:39, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
:You should have a look at the [[Halloween_Potion-ma-jig#Explanations|Explanations]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== Baldy no more? ==

Is that hair or a beret on the suave version of Homestar? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 14:44, 7 Nov 2005 (CST)
:I'd say bad comb-over or toupee {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:36, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

==Buried Strong Sad==

Why was Strong Sad buried in the dirt? Is it a reference to Sickly Sam or Devo? --[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 05:41, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not sure exactly, but for more insight in this topic, you might try going [[HRWiki:STUFF#Burying Our Troublesome Brothers|here]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Strong Bad mentioned that they were "burying their problems here in the woods". [[User:72.8.92.6|72.8.92.6]] 04:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:Yep, see a few topics down. We totally accepted the fact. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== THE END ==

I noticed that on the new version, sometimes if you get freaky Marzipan, it's possible that the "THE END" scene sometimes does not appear, and it goes straight tothe character screen. Anyone else encountered this? {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 01:06, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

==Comment==

Anybody but me think that Strong Bad looks rediculously wierd in his Jambi costume? I just wanted to throw that out there.--[[Image:Homsar-in-motion.gif]][[Image:The-cheat-small.png]]Homsarroks[[Image:kookysig.gif]] 01:42, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:And this is where I'm supposed to say something about that being better on the forum. Sorry; we really ''don't'' follow that rule all the time, and often wind up in non-article-affecting talk... but you know. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:57, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Burying our troublesome brothers ===
{{stufffact|When Strong Bad said "burying our troubles", he was probably referring to half-buried Strong Sad.}}
{{stuffverdict|12:49, 2 November 2005 (UTC)|16:47, 16 November 2005 (UTC)|accepted|26|12|Halloween Potion-ma-jig}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Halloween is all up ons ===
{{stufffact|The muscles on Bubs' costume bear a strong resemblance to the markings made by Strong Bad's [[Ab-Abber 2000]], introduced in [[suntan]].}}
{{stuffverdict|15:52, 2 November 2005 (UTC)|19:13, 14 November 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined, 18–8. An original version was also overwhelmingly declined|19|1|Halloween Potion-ma-jig}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Change is good ===
{{stufffact|The pictures above Homestar's cabinet are changed for the holiday. They ordinarily show his changing appearance over the years.}}
{{stuffverdict|03:40, 6 November 2005 (UTC)|19:06, 14 November 2005 (UTC)|unanimously accepted as revised|14|0|Halloween Potion-ma-jig}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== The Great American Bubs Bash ===
{{stufffact|Homestar calling Bubs "Great American Bubs" is a reference to the old [[Wikipedia:World Championship Wrestling|World Championship Wrestling]] Pay-Per-View, ''The Great American Bash'', which has since been revived by [[Wikipedia:World Wrestling Entertainment|World Wrestling Entertainment]]'s "[[Wikipedia:WWE Friday Night SmackDown!|''SmackDown!'']]" brand. WCW was also based in Georgia, close to the Brothers Chaps' location.}}
{{stuffverdict|15:00, 8 November 2005 (UTC)|18:36, 14 November 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|14|0|Halloween Potion-ma-jig}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== That's a rap ===
{{stufffact|Strong Sad's "fresh beats" is a reference to rampage, which also featured Strong Sad rapping.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:07, 2 November 2005 (UTC)|19:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|2|Halloween Potion-ma-jig}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== What I'm supposed to do with STUFF? ===
{{stufffact|Homestar's line to Homsar, "What I'm supposed to do...?" is similar to Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2, where he asks Strong bad how to proceed with his attempted prank call.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:07, 2 November 2005 (UTC)|19:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|3|Halloween Potion-ma-jig}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== If you like piña coladas ===
{{stufffact|The line "Do you even have half a brain?" as said by [[Strong Sad]] may be a vague reference to a line from the 1979 hit song "Escape" (a/k/a "The Piña Colada Song") by [[Wikipedia:Rupert Holmes|Rupert Holmes]].}}
{{stuffverdict|05:30, 4 November 2005 (UTC)|02:39, 6 November 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|14|1|Halloween Potion-ma-jig}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Recurring themes ===
{{stufffact|Witches' Brew and The Goblin are both recurring themes in the Halloween toons.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:07, 2 November 2005 (UTC)|21:02, 3 November 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|19|2|Halloween Potion-ma-jig}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== The Coincidence of Zelda ===
{{stufffact|The manner in which The Poopsmith digs up the "Powdered Ground Ground" pouch is a reference to the digging minigame in The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past. Additionally, the pouch itself is very similar to an item in the game, the bag of magic powder.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:07, 2 November 2005 (UTC)|20:55, 3 November 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|17|0|Halloween Potion-ma-jig}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Friends forever ===
{{stufffact|Homestar Runner's costume of Moocher from ''Breaking Away'' is a reference to him having the only relationship with a girl, as did Moocher.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:07, 2 November 2005 (UTC)|20:52, 3 November 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|1|Halloween Potion-ma-jig}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Essence of Urban Legend ===
{{stufffact|Putting someone's hand in warm water while they sleep is a common prank believed to make the victim involuntarily urinate.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:07, 2 November 2005 (UTC)|20:43, 3 November 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|24|3|Halloween Potion-ma-jig}}

== What is that ==

thing strong sad has on he's head? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 09:43, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

: Strong Sad is wearing the 80's band [[Wikipedia:Devo|Devo's]] trademark hat. He's dressed up as a Devo band member in this Toon. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:51, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

== Transparent Legs?!? ==
Is there a reason Bubs' legs are transparent? -[[User:Alice|Alice]]

== There are five endings to this toon… ==

The explanation expresses the formula as this: '''x % 5 + 1''' with a resultant range of 1-5, but then someone numbered the outcomes 0-4, what gives?
:The outcomes are numbered 1-5. It's the ''remainders'' that are 0-4, i.e., before you add that 1 to it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

::'''EDIT CONFLICT:''' Here's a bit more complicated answer. They're chosen due to the remainder after the equasion. Each choice you make adds a number to the total, eventually you'll end up with a number, like 13 or something. 13 % 5 would equal 2 with a remainder of 3. That means you'd get ending number 3. Depending on if you have a remainder of 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4, you'll get one of 5 endings, appropriately named 0-4. It's a bit hard to explain, but does that make sense? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:02, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Wow, check this out! ==

I just discovered something rather interesting and entertaining. I used a Seek Bar to skip ahead to the scene where Marzipan is dressed up as Beaker, and as a result of not answering the questions earlier in the toon, I got to watch all of the possible "ingredients" in order. ("Some questionable water, some stank water, ...and give it a stir with this Jurassic Park 3 Collector's Spoon, and give it a stir with this toilet brush...") Also, backing up to the point where Homestar gets his words from Strong Sad, you can see all of the responses rapidly changing in their blanks. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:49, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:I had to figure out how to make seek bars work, and all that happened was i saw the tofu homestar ending! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 06:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Upon scrolling after the little the end bug appeared, I realized that you were wrong, but you can see all the endings. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 06:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's eyes ==

Are Strong Bad's eyes in the old, pre-"montage" style (where the diamond and V-shape are less symmetrical to each other) or are they in the post-"montage" style (the diamond and V-shape are more symmetrical)? Thanks. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 20:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

== Full Name? ==

Is this the first time when Homestar is addressed by his full name? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 07:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:Anyone? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:44, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

::If, by "full name", you mean "Homestar Michael Runner", then yes, this is the only time he's given that name... it says so in the [[{{PAGENAME}}#Remarks|Remarks]]. The first time he was addressed as "Homestar Runner" was the [[Original Book]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
:::It's also not the first time that a middle name was suggested. See the DVD commentary on [[time capsule]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:56, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

==Bubs calls Homestar "Shorty"--my explanation==

Sorry, not a member. But I noticed that in the references section, it rants about how Homestar is actually taller than Bubs and Bubs calls Homestar shorty, but I think that whoever wrote that fails to understand why he called him shorty. Homestar dresses up as the character "Moocher" from the 1979 film "Breaking Away" in which people discriminate Moocher for his smaller build. Whenever someone calls Moocher "Shorty", he gets really mad. There were two instances in which he did that. First, when he got a job at the gas station, and his manager said "Don't forget to punch the clock, shorty." And that's just what he did. The second instance is when a nemesis college frat jerk called him shorty which sparked a mass bar fight. Just thought I'd clear that up for all 'yall.

== Homestar's impressions ==

Whoever wrote in the Easter Eggs about Homestar's shady drifter impression is wrong.
This isn't an 'option' like the Reagan impression; Homestar just does it as part of the easter egg. That fact should be removed.
:...What are you talking aboot? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yeah. I took it out. Oh, and sign your posts, please. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 14:49, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

== Just noticed something... ==

Marzipan: "Bring it back before midnight." Ths was released at 1:30 am EST. Coincidence?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 22:11, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

:I dunno. Emails which show it's broad daylight are released in the middle of night. I don't see any correlation between the release time and the events within the toon. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:20, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

::No, I mean, TBC were struggling to get this cartoon done before midnight. They failed, but it doesn't seem like Homestar did. Know what I mean?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 21:55, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

== Yanked the "Checkers" reference ==
That was actually Richard Nixon who gave the Checkers speech. Now, I wouldn't put it past Homestar to get those two mixed up, but I don't think that was what they were going for. [[User:RumbleRed|RumbleRed]] 20:56, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, totally not. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::The whole point was "What can one quickly remember popculturally about Reagan?" Running short, he knows most presidents had first pets. He said "probably had a pet." Not "checkers," not even "dog."

== Misplaced trivia ==

* "Strong Sad's line, "Each day we die a little more," and Marzipan's line, "I'm not the only girl," are references to their respective lines from the Who Said What Now?."

Actually, those lines are from Spin n' Say, not this toon. I want to remove that, but just for the record, who placed that line there in the first place? [[User:Rexy|Rexy]] 18:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:Spin and Say was changed to Who Said What Now?, so the fact is still correct. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 17:46, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== glitch ==
I don't know how this happened but, at the end it showed every possible ingredient, stirring utensil and incantation then, it showed french homestar frozen in place.

==Pokémon Reference (Perhaps)==
You guys are NEVER going to believe it.

"Choose it or Lose it" (the title page name) is said in Pokémon S01E01, about 3:45 in.

Maybe it's a coincedence, or that phrase is just common, whatever.

I liek Mudkips.
:It IS what I thought of, and they HAVE made [[pokemon]] refs before, however the phrase is [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22choose+it+or+lose+it%22 far too common] to pin to this one thing. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::Though if you really look at those sites, you'll see that most of them are about that one Pokemon episode. But I don't know if that is still convincing enough. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 02:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::If you search for [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22choose+it+or+lose+it%22+-Pokémon+-Pokemon pages without the words "pokémon" or "pokemon"], you still get about 4000 as opposed to about 4700. So no, most of them are not referring to that specific episode. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:35, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

== Legnth ==

I calculated and its about 14 minutes in length [[User:HomsarGuy|HomsarGuy]] 21:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

== Objects as Inside references ==

I had removed a bunch of Inside references (such as the KFC bucket, Pom Poms gun, a broken TV, etc) citing that these are just mundane objects and graphics that TBC reuse so that they don't have to redraw them every time. My change was reverted saying that many of these objects have their own articles meaning that they are not mundane; they are significant objects and, therefore, are considered inside references. I didn't want to start a reverting war, so I'm starting this discussion to get others opinions.

My opinion is this: It's fine that these objects have their own articles, but do we really need to say "Ooh! theres that KFC bucket again!" every time it appears? As time goes on, I'm sure many objects in the HR universe will have their own articles, and adding each and every one as an Inside Reference will be a lot. These facts just add clutter to the article without adding anything interesting. If anyone is interested in the KFC bucket it has its own article for that reason. Furthermore, I don't really see these as "inside references." Usually an inside reference makes some sort of explicit connection to a previous toon. There is no real connection between the broken TVs in this toon and the ones in previous toons. They're just generic broken TVs. I don't think TBC were saying "you know what will blow our viewers' minds away? if we use the SAME broken tv as in that other toon! it'll be hilarious!" So theres my thoughts. Any opinions? - [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 15:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:I tend to agree that reused objects and sounds don't make good fun facts, but some people tend to like these facts, but only sometimes. It escapes me what the difference is between the type that people like and the type people find boring because frankly, i find them all boring, and agree that it's all basically clutter. That's my 2 cents anyway. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::I support keeping facts like this because it allows us to link to the articles for the objects in question. If we don't have facts like this, there won't be anywhere to link the cool shades Pom Pom is wearing, for example, which seems to me not to be good thing. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:41, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::: Yea I was thinking of that as a potential reason for keeping a mention of them somewhere in the article... I noticed that a lot of other articles have these types of things linked in the transcript when they come up. for example: "Bubs has a bucket containing a [[Orange_Bowl_and_Spoon#Wooden_Spoon|wooden spoon]], a brush, etc" I think that this is a better place for them to be linked since, as I mentioned before, these aren't really References. - [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 12:47, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::::I can see that working sometimes, but rarely. After a while, repeated linking in the transcript starts to look really ugly. Linking in dialogue is actually prohibited, though that probably won't apply to this sort situation. Linking elsewhere can be OK sparingly. After a while, all that blue makes it annoying to read. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 15:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Diapers come true? Hopefully not... ==

Dear Hrwiki,

Homestar's "sing a saong" option in scene four has ''got'' to refer to something! I just know it. I have scoured the Fun Facts and Transcript and found nothing. Is it even a real song? I know that I have heard that tune before...

Confuzzed, 
[[User:Jellote|Jellote]], 
Over there

== Youtube Ver. ==

could someone with time & editing tact put in a section on the version of Potion-ma-jig posted to the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNTtCGZOdtI youtube account]], like how it was done for [[independent]]? --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 07:49, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

:Not sure about that. What I am sure about is that the YT version follows the DVD Play All version, including the <s>"Loquentia, Imbruglia, Precitpitous, Saraleecheesecake, Denouement"</s> "Betta Ax Somebod-ay" error. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 14:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

== Possible Glitch? (Maybe Not Noteworthy But It Is Weird) ==

Okay, I was listening to the toon while on Wikipedia at the same time. I loaded a fairly big page and that caused the toon to hiccup as Homestar presented the stirring utensil to Marizpan. (Jurassic Park 3 Collector spoon when suddenly he gave her a chewed up pen instead.)

To avoid being confusing here is what I selected and here's what the computer did with the hiccup.

*Me: 3 + 1 + 3 + 1 + 3 = Cycloptic Homestar
*Computer: 3 + 1 + 3 + 2 + 3 = French Homestar

The odd result was, that it DID come out as Cyclopic Homestar, but after the toon ended and it went to the characters, the audio for French Homestar began playing.

Not sure if this can be at all notable but I thought it was strange enough to mention. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 05:41, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
:I can't get it to happen. the problem is probably on your end, which would make it not notable. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 06:40, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
::Wouldn't be the first time a laptop I owned did something inexplicably/impossibly crazy. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 06:44, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== Glitch, maybe? ==

I played this three times with different answers each time and I got Cyclops Homestar at the end of every single try! Is this like, a glitch with the toon or just down to my choices? [[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]]
:You know different results can give you the same things, right? It just depends on your choices. {{User:Nova Scotia/sig}} 21:31, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
::See [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig#How the Ending is Chosen]]. Sounds like you just got lucky. Also, because of the algorithm used, certain endings are more common than others, as listed there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
:::I got it again another 3 times. A 7th try will hopefully show different results. I guess I'm just chosing similar answers. [[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]]
::::Try picking an ending, then coming up with a set of answers that should give you that one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:03, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::I did it a 7th, I got french Homstar. I just don't know why I got Cycloptic Homestar 6 times in a row...it's odd... [[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]]

== Location, Location, Location 2!!! ==

Ok, this question is titled the same as one other question above, but my question is not the slightest bit about Legends of Zelda.
On the article, I should probably put that the sysops have Homsar's costume and phrase as their symbol, and why they chose the phrase to be related to the sysops. With permission, I will put it in the neccesary section in the article. -[[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]
:We don't tend to put Wiki-related fun facts in articles, except in the case of Sbemails sent by a Wiki user. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 22:24, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
::Oooook, man, i never am right. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]

Talk:Weclome Back

Jibblejibblejibble — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:22:06 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Goofs */

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==Agatha Christie/Angela Lansbury==
Shouldn't the part explaning that be in Real-World References, rather than Remarks? Seems to me like it should. -- [[User:Michelle Mabelle|Michelle Mabelle]]

Yes, I think so, and doesn't it reference the character Angela Lansbury played in murder she wrote more than the miss marple movie she was in?
she played a mystery writer who solved mysteries. -- phantom

==Bologna==
We can leave the Baloney in Baloney Sammich Truck but otherwise it should be bologna
:Both are accepted spellings... [http://m-w.com/dictionary/baloney Merriam-Webster] lists Baloney as a variant of Bologna. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Those words have undergone differentiation. ''Baloney'' is properly only "nonsense", and the meat product is ''bologna''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It's dot com, I don't think that's a true statement. M-W shows it as a variant of "bologna"; if you have a dictionary citation where it's noted that "baloney" doesn't mean "bologna" anymore, then provide it. Especially as they use the "baloney" spelling in the toon, and barring absence of evidence that it cannot adequately mean the meat, we should use the "baloney" spelling throughout. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: Touché. Sandwich was also misspelled as "sammich" so the explicit use of "baloney' was probably just word play.
:::::"Sammich" is not a documented and accepted spelling of "sandwich", however. "Baloney" is. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: I have personally never seen the sausage meat being spelled as anything except "bologna" in any ''serious'' context. Bubs' truck is hardly what I'd call serious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Because simple personal experience is limited, we have lexicographers whose job it is to determine actual usage on the broad scale. Above it is shown that Merriam Webster's lexicographic staff feels "baloney" is an accepted spelling of the meat product. [http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=5771&dict=CALD Cambridge] and [http://www.bartleby.com/61/79/B0047900.html American Heritage] agree. Oxford seems to disagree, however Oxford is a primarily British dictionary which also documents US usage, so the actual US dictionaries should take precedence here. Note that I am not saying "bologna" would be wrong, but that it would be inconsistent with TBC's usage on the site, and as such would be less appropriate for the knowledge base. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I don't think the outcome of this discussion is very important, but I will note that searching Oscar Meyer's (probably the manufacturer of the most bologna in North America) website for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&u1=keyword&u2=baloney baloney] reveals zero occurrences, and searching for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&u1=keyword&u2=bologna bologna] reveals several. My vote is to refer to it as "bologna" everywhere but "Baloney Sammich Truck". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Of course that's a branding choice on Oscar Meyer's part (the song wouldn't be so great if they had a way with b-a-l-o-n-e-y!), as "baloney" is the branding choice for [http://www.maloneysbaloney.com/ Maloney's Baloney]. Then there's LightLife's [http://www.solae.com/soyproteinproducts/products/foneybaloney.jsp Foney Baloney], another clear branding choice. One would expect branding usage to be consistent, regardless of whether the word is real or not, or whether the form of the word is more, less, or equally prevalent in American English. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Also, I think it's strange to assume that "baloney" is TBC's preferred spelling based off of "Baloney Sammich Truck"; no one's arguing that "sandwich" should be respelled "sammich" everywhere in the article... :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Again, as I noted above, no one would argue that, because "sammich" is not a lexicographically-accepted word. "Baloney" is, as I think I have proven, as correct a spelling as "bologna" in American English, and to insist on using a spelling TBC did not use in this case seems a little odd to me. Compare to this: what if they did a toon about "pop" and people argued we should call it "soda" because it matches their personal experience? This is NOT a case of them making up a word or spelling out a slang term, and the line of thinking we'd use if they called it "ba-low-knee" or something else like that doesn't apply. It's my position that if they use a real spelling of a real word in canon, we should follow suit when discussing canon. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think it's pretty much a regional spelling difference, like saying 'soda' or 'pop'. Most people, I would assume, have seen both. Since the only documented instance of the word's spelling is 'baloney', I think we should continue that spelling throughout, although add somewhere "baloney (which can also be spelled bologna)".[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 22:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::If only they had misspelled "truck" — then the case would be clear! Since this isn't the case, I think Trelawney's suggestion is the best compromise, although I would change the parenthetical statement to "(more commonly spelled bologna)". And now I plan to spend no more time thinking about this molehill. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm not questioning the veracity of the various dictionaries you noted, nor am I suggesting that ''baloney'' isn't a variant of ''bologna''. What I am saying is that, given their differentiation, ''baloney'' in the sense of the meat product is a ''needless'' variant (for my source and some excellent further reading, I highly recommend ''[[Special:Booksources/0195161912|Garner's Modern American Usage]]''). As for this toon, I don't have a good answer there. It clearly reads "Baloney" on the truck, which is why I have made no attempt to change the references in the transcript. Whether or not TBC were being tongue-in-cheek with the spelling is anyone's guess, but, as much as I dislike it, we should spell it consistently without a better reason not to. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I will say that because bubs spelled Sandwich as Sammich. We should spell it sammich the whole article and i'm off! {{unsigned|Taste of your medicine|03:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)}}

:I'd caution against disrupting the wiki to illustrate a point, as [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point|Wikipedia does in this guideline]]. Please discuss the issue here on the talk page and not through edits and edit summaries. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:Please review my points above, in particular my 22:03, 3 July 2006 UTC post. With which part of that do you disagree? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

::I'd just like to add that "sammich" is pronounced differently to "sandwich", so it was clear which one to transcribe. When Bubs said "I'm-tryingtosellabaloneysammich!" he clearly says "sammich", and when he says "I drove my baloney sandwich truck down to the beach" he clearly says "sandwich". Yes, I thought of that while I was transcribing - I considered using "sammich" everywhere too, but that wasn't what he was ''saying''. With baloney/bologna, there is no such differentiation - the only difference is in the spelling, and the decision boils down to "we should use the correct term" vs "we should use the term that's still an accepted variant, but would be consistant". I think the latter is the better choice. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:::It was word play! Tell you what. A wiki and fourm consensus seems like what we should do, I say we vote on this to be truly fair. At next Tuesday we take the winner and post that in Weclome Back. '''TOYM''' 15:42 UTC 4 July 2006

::::I think we should just spell it however Los` Brotheren Cowboy Boots spell it. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Quick question: Has anyone considered the possibility that Bubs is trying to sell ''nonsense'' sandwiches, as opposed to bologna sandwiches? That if someone actually bought a sammich from Bubs on this deserted [[island]], they'd get a couple slices of bread, maybe with a [[Fortune Cookies|fortune]] inside or something? :) It could just be one of the [[isp|99 ways he rips you off]]. That would be a good case for leaving it "baloney", IMHO. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:17, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:Uh... can I simply say that this whole bologna/baloney controversy began with an incorrect assumption that "baloney" is not an acceptable spelling of the meat many call "bologna"? With many respected lexicons agreeing on its acceptance, thereby setting that incorrect assumption aside, there's no purpose in formulating an excuse for the use of the spelling we are using. We're using good American English, and we have no need to fear we're being imprecise or uncivilized, or to otherwise feel bad about it.
::Well ''I'' feel guilty ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

==Strong Bad on the Airplane==
Did anybody notice that Strongbad didn't move with the plane? Should we put this under goofs?
:I don't think it was a goof; I think it was an intentional choice on the part TBC. They probably thought it would look better if SB wasn't jiggling the whole time he was talking. Also, cartoons don't necessarily have to obey physics. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Is it worth noting that on the video StrongBad recorded, he doesn't appear to be actually wearing a parachute -- just a helmet? -- Catgirl
:I think both the above statements deserve to be in remarks at least. {{User:NFITC1/sig}}

==Topiary==
Who is that man in the topiary garden? It doesn't look anything like the bust of [[Van Buren]]... Rogue mentioned Shakespere in IRC, and it bears a resemblance... what do people think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:I think it might just be Shakespere.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 16:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::I gotta agree with H*Bad. Shakespeare is who I immediately thought of when I saw that. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 16:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I, too, thought of the Bard of Avon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::One more vote for Shakespeare... that's why come he's so awesome. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::::I thought it was Bach when I first saw it, and since Bach is referenced in the same scene (Rockin' with Bach), it seems to make sense.[[user:AndrewS|AndrewS]]
::::::It's definitely Shakespeare. Bach was always depicted with a full wig and no facial hair, whereas the most famous portrait of Old Billie has him balding with medium-long hair and a Van Dyke. And the earring. [[User:Catgirl|Catgirl]]

== Chaps upgrade to Flash 8? ==

They've said before that they still use Flash 5 (or was it Flash MX, I forget). But this eppisode used alot more blurred objects then usual (in the plane, the blades of grass the camera records and the quick zoom in on h*) and bluring is a new feature added to Flash 8 (Chaps have previously used photoshop to do this). I'm working on importing the flash file into my Flash 8, I'll see if that has any clues. --John

No, it's still made in 7. They just used images I guess. --B14Z3

:Well, I don't know 'bout you, but my copy of Flash 7 can blur stuff. It can also addd accurate shadows, made explosions, and somethin' else I can't remember. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::They said they use Flash 5 though, not 7 or 8. {{User:Dagger/sig}} 05:35, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== Doin' that thing you do ==
The lyric referring to "our bass player" reminds me of ''[[IMDb:tt0117887|That Thing You Do!]]'', where the bass guitarist had no other name than T(he) B(ass) Player. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Heh, thats true.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 17:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Actually TBC are most likely referring to the fact that bass players are generally un-notested

== "The part with the narwhal?" ==

At least, I think SB said Narwhal. You don't get that many of them in midair, but I'd imagine one of the celebrities had brought one along.
:There were no celebrities.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide? It's far too subtle for me to add it, though someone braver might include it. At least it should die in STUFF.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 19:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::That was a sperm whale, though, not a narwhal. It's probably just cause narwhals are so cool. :)[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::Not to metion the marked lack of a Bowl of Petunias. [[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]] 01:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I dunno, narwhals seem to have a habit of [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/penguincalls coming out of nowhere] in the world of Macromedia Flash (see #9, although it's better to watch them in order). It wouldn't surprise me at all to have one pop up midair in Free Country USA. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 04:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::It should be noted that the "Penguin Calls" flash you just linked to was made by the same person--drewmo--that did the Narwhal Diving game, which the toon appears to reference. Everything's connected. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yeah. Drewmo/Spinnerdisc.com does a lot of stuff with narwhales. including [http://www.spinnerdisc.com/plaid_ep2.html tiny plaid ninjas episode #2] (click the shoe), on which the game was first based. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 19:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

== Homsars hat flying off... ==
...and then coming back, reminds me of the parts from Airplane! when one of the characters tossed their jacket and it came back to him.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, I think the sae thing happened with a hat too. I love that movie.... {{User:Salty/sig}} 18:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Homsar's hat comes back to him all the time. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Maybe its something that the Chapmans took from the movie.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I just thinks that he threw it around the world, so naturally it came back to him. Homsar would do that kind of thing. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Or it simply flew around behind the viewer. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:It should be pointed out that in the movie, the hat and jacket came back from the direction he threw them, as if someone tossed them back, not from the opposite direstion, which is what Homsar's hat did.-[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 03:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Did anyone notice... ==
The audio levels in this tune were kinda subpar. I suppose it might be my computer, god knows my speakers are dying, but I've watched every toon on the site and I've never had problems understanding as much dialogue as this one. The Cheat and Strong Mad were playing so loudly I couldn't hear Marzy...
Oh, and Homestar's eyes looked kinda small in his sleepyhead outfit, didn't they?

== Blogs? ==

Did it sound to anyone else like Strong Bad said "ladies' blogs", not "latest blogs"? [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 03:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:I thought so at first too, but on a re-listen it was pretty clearly "latest" to me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::I myself heard "latest blogs". {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I heard "latest blogs" but that's probably because I didn't know there was such thing as a vlog until I read this hrwiki article. I guess vlogs would make more sense though, considering Strong bad is (or at least thinks he is) taping the event on video. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 17:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:I heard "ladies' blogs" when I first watched it and was actually surprised to see it transcribed as "latest blogs" here. Personally, I think he was saying "ladies" but it sounded similar to "latest" because of that Strong Badian pseudo-Mexican accent we've all come to know and love. Besides, given his constant and hopeless obsession with attempting to impress "the ladies", it would be a very much in-character thing for him to say. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:33, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

== Vlog or Blog? ==

Is it vlog or blog in the transcript? The real-world refernces say about vlogs... [[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 09:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's Eyes ==

Did anybody else notice that Homestar's eyes were flipped during his "sleepy" mode? - {{User:Super Sonic X/Sig}} 13:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:It happened in [[Biz Cas Fri 3]], too. [[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 20:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Rival camps ==

Right now we have the following real-world reference:
*Athletic competitions between summer camps occupying the same campground are common in family movies and cartoons.
Could someone add a well-known example to this fact; I can't think of one offhand. Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

The movie Heavyweights is a good example of this
-TheDensel

I just added "Heavyweights" (didn't see TheDensel's comment) and "Meatballs" to the fact. [[User:69.217.59.140|69.217.59.140]] 16:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Goofs ==
First of all, weclome? (it's spelled wrong) That's on purpose, right? It doesn't really seem to stand out, and it seems like if it was on purpose, TBC would make it stand out more. Second, strongbad doesn't wiggle with the plane. Should we add these?
:I think both are intentional: the former has [[Unusual_Greetings#Weclome|its own page]], and see [[Talk:Weclome Back#Strong Bad on the Airplane|my comments on the latter]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:: I think TBC did that, because in many other 'toons, SBemails, and puppet stuff, they do switch letters around, make the word sound like it has another letter added into it, or write/type it with or without another letter. I am surprised you don't know better...... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]Jibblejibblejibble

==Arm length and head position goof?==
When Strong Bad is turning on his camera in the plane, his arm is abnormally long (stretchy??), also his head is in "front" of his laptop's screen. A few frames later he pulls his head back behind the screen (where we'd normally see it) -- it almost looks as if his head just passed through the laptop. [[User:75.26.2.227|75.26.2.227]] 19:19, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Westerburg/berg ==

"Burg" is the german word for "Castle", while "Berg" is for "Mount(ain)". Both are very common suffixes for german town names as well. Coincidence?

== TBC Vacation ==

I have a feeling that the reason why the site didn't update much is because TBC went on vacation? This cartoon sounds like a way of telling everyone. Oh, and please don't remove this comment again. It ticks me off. [[User:King Cheesia|King Cheesia]]
:I'm sorry to hear that. You see, your comment doesn't really belong here: it doesn't have anything to do with the content of the ''article'' about this toon, which is what this talk page is for. On the other hand, there is a [[Forum:8992|forum thread]] specifically for opinions and chatter about the toon itself. Also, this is kind of already mentioned in the [[Weclome Back#Explanations|Explanations]] section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
::I heard they took a break from the site because their dad died. Any verification?
:::Let's see; Don Chapman sadly passed away on April 15, 2006. However, the Brothers Chaps soldiered on and continued to update the site with Thy Dungeonman 3, senior prom and isp. After that, the site was quiet from May 16, 2006, until July 3, 2006, except for the occasional Store or Podstar Runner updates. Note that the break started a month after Don's death, so I don't think that was the reason why the site wasn't updated during June. Also, the toon, Weclome Back, seems to imply that the Brothers Chaps went on vacation, just like almost everyone in the toon. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:57, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

==Island trivia==
Do we really know for a fact that "The island is used in this toon because in the DVD commentary on Strong Bad Email island, Matt said they should use the island again"? Sounds like hearsay to me. It could just as easily be based on a whim, or that it's the only previously seen beach for one to drive to. - (Random Nitpicky Person) 23:31, 4 July 2006 (EST)
:Hasn't it been reused since that commentary anyway? Was it in [[disconnected]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Baloney Sammich Truck==
[[Image:Baloneytruck.PNG|thumb|Like magic?]]
Can someone upload a picture of that beach scene? Specifically when Bubs says "You shut your face" to the atari seagul?-[[User:68.113.192.114|68.113.192.114]] 03:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:C'n I ask why? I mean, I'll do it an' everything, but I wanna know what it's for. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Already on it. Here you go: {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Narwhal is a reference to AKA Driver... ''how'' exactly? ==

How is Narwhal Diving a reference to AKA Driver? I've looked up the lyrics for said song and there's not a single line in the song mentioning narwhals. In addition, drewmo (the author of Narwhal Diving) has posted in the forum topic for Weclome Back, saying he's never heard AKA Driver. I'd say we have reasonable doubt here... ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:I agree. Other than "Narwhal Diver" and "NyQuil Driver" sounding alike, there's nothing. --[[User:4.159.116.75|4.159.116.75]] 18:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:Fair enough. The similarity in name seemed more than coincidental to me, but I guess not.

== I'm with gluten/stupid ==
Strong Sad's "I'm with gluten" t-shirt seems to be a reference to the "I'm with stupid" t-shirts, which I think were popular in the eighties. Might be something more to it, though.[[User:Old Timey Me|Old Timey Me]] 03:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
:It almost certainly is, but I think that'd be explaining the joke, which we avoid. Unless most viewers wouldn't get the reference, such a joke-explaining comment talks down to the reader, and we avoid them. Of course, it being an obvious joke is merely my opinion, I may be wrong. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
::I think it's worth a shot — I hadn't noticed it, even though I'm familiar with the "stupid" shirts. And I'm sure there's a healthy portion of people who haven't seen the shirt. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

==Homestar Running Gag==
Isnt it a Running Gag with Homestar to announce something, then immidietly ask what he is hearing about so-and-so happening (Sleeping through June, not bringing Donuts, and from the Marzipan Answering machine, hearing about this Boyfriend Dan)
:Well, if it happens any more it will be notable. But what would you title a page like this? {{User:Salty/sig}} 06:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

==Bubs' Voice==
A lot of the characters' voices have been more and more pronounced lately. I noticed this with Strong Bad, and for example in Weclome Back, Bubs' voice sounds very Limozeen-y, and less Bubs-y. It's a little irritating. Did anyone else notice this? [[User:Quite|Quite]] 23:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

== Toot sweet/tout de suite? ==

Near the beginning, I thought Marzipan's response to Bubs' question about her vacation was that it was "toot sweet" a reference to a song in the movie Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. (sign your posts)
:See [[Template:STUFF/Weclome Back|STUFF]]. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

==Trogdor Filmography?==
[[Trogdor]] appears in this toon, albeit in topiary garden form. Does this count as an "appearance" worthy of adding this article to the [[:Category:Trogdor Filmography|Trogdor Filmography Category]]? --[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:The_Homestrongzipansadcheatsmith http://www.hrwiki.org/images/3/3b/The_homestrongzipansadcheatsmith2.PNG] [[User talk:The Homestrongzipansadcheatsmith|Tlk]]/[[Special:Contributions/The_Homestrongzipansadcheatsmith|Cnt]] 19:59, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
:We've added characters to their filmography categories for similar things before (for example, [[Homsar]]'s appearance in [[stupid stuff]]). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Pom Pom Eyes ==

At the ending part, did anyone else think that Pom Pom's eyes were too far apart? --{{User:Fizz123/sig}}
:Perhaps, but isn't it a little bit extreme to be analyzing the distance between Pom Pom's eyes? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:44, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
::It just looked unnatural... --{{User:Fizz123/sig}}
:::It ''did'' look a little off, but he was facing right at the camera, which is also unusual... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I always figured that like his appendages, his other features can just kind of float around to an extent. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:38, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== Light in the Leftovers ==

Is there a way to compare this phrase with "Light in the loafers" without offending people? Or should I not bother.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 22:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

:This has already been dealt with; the decision seems to be "don't point it out." --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 22:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

::It's highly unlikely that Homsar meant anything related to sexuality by saying the phrase, and nothing else in the scene suggests or even hints at a sexual theme. Therefore, the connection between "leftovers" and "loafers" must just be a coincidence, and Homsar was referring to something else. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Actually, most of what Homsar says (with the exception of that message he left for Marzipan) means nothing at all, and is not related to anything. I think it is a play of "light in the loafers", but since we have little kids here, this one (like [[senior prom|David Coppafeel]]) can slide. --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 22:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

::::[[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns|This article might interest you...]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:07, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

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=== Commonly misunderstood Coach ===
{{stufffact|Coach Z's line about "Glorten" Camp echoes a similar line from him in [[mascot]]. There, he refers to the same entity in two different ways, and here, he refers to two different entities in the same way.}}
{{stuffverdict|06:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)|17:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)|declined|17|10|Weclome Back}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Whistling candy ===
{{stufffact|"Toot sweet" is a play on the French phrase ''"tout de suite"'' (which translates to "immediately" or "at once"). Both phrases are pronounced roughly the same.}}
{{stuffverdict|23:08, 3 July 2006 (UTC)|04:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|23|3|Weclome Back}}

== New pants? ==

Did anyone else notice that Strong Bad's pants had purple shadows on them in this toon? I don't think I've seen those pants in anything before or after this one. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 01:07, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
:Looks/sounds like the [[Strong Bad Evolution|sixth design]] to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Johnny Castaway ==

I'm pretty sure that there is a reference to Johnny Castaway here. Remember how Johnny always used those thought bubbles to show what he was thinking? Pom Pom and the Poopsmith do that in the easter egg. The lo-res bird that Bubs yells at seems to be circumstantial evidence too. I'm pretty certain about this one but it got cut from the article very quickly when I posted it a few days ago. Anyone else remember/willing to investigate Johnny Castaway (from screen antics)?

== Gumball Surprise = reference? ==

Hey guys,

You know, Gumball Surprise reminds me of those "character" ice cream bars with gumball eyes or noses that you sometimes find being sold on ice cream trucks. (And "Not a real popsicle" is obviously another ice-cream-truck reference...)--[[User:71.131.30.63|71.131.30.63]] 21:00, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Possibly. I would [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Weclome_Back&action=edit add it] and see if anyone takes it away. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== And this is ''how'' many times they've said -pèd? ==

I'm just saying, but I think they've sayed stripèd or shapèd numerous times in the HR universe. Possibly a word running gag? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:36, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
:That's why we have a page for "[[-èd]]." {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 04:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
::Which I created. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:54, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Hehe, yeah...sorry 'bout that. Didn't realize that. {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 17:37, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

== Purple Gumball? ==

It's very clearly pink. I'm gonna be '''bold''' and change it. You know who to blame. -- [[User:4.244.210.252|4.244.210.252]] 03:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

==Pete Townsend...really?==
The Fun Facts mention Marzy's guitar destruction as a direct reference to Pete Townsend. Is this apt, given the numbers of people who perform similar acts? [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]]
:Um...what guitar destruction? It never actually showed her smashing it. {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 01:53, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad goof? ==

When we see Strong Bad ranting about the whole "Oh, cuh-''rap''! What am I, your dad?" thing, we see nothing but the background of The Field behind him. But then, after it zooms out to see all the characters, the telephone pole with the time clock on it, it is halfway obscured by Strong Bad. Shouldn't the pole have been obscured by SB during his close-up? {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 04:49, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

==Seagull==

I'm not a pro on this wiki like you guys, so I'll let you guys edit this, but the seagull isn't an "Atari" sea gull. It's from California Games by Epyx. Classic game. Anyway, the seagull comes from the hackey-sack event. {{unsigned|128.12.162.3|05:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)}}

== title ==

am i the only one who thought it was 'lc' not 'cl' in the title. i just noticed that. [[User:Homsarstrongbad150|Homsarstrongbad150]] 02:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
:Naw, I thought it was ''Welcome'' Back too for a while. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 02:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

== Image in Transcript ==

Why is the "everybody everybody" image in the transcript? to me it looks out of place and unneeded. For history's sake (and to save everyone else the trouble of sifting through), it was added [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Weclome_Back&diff=prev&oldid=344580 here] by BazookaJoe. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:00, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:It was initially used on the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:whatsnew&diff=next&oldid=341565 What's New?] bar on the main page, probably as to prevent a spoiler. It was probably added to this page later so we wouldn't lose it, and could still make use of it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:42, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::That doesn't address the question of whether it looks good there or not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:46, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I think it fits nicely. {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 01:54, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::I think it's out of place, as DeFender said. No other toon has an image in its transcript, and it was my understanding we try to avoid it. And though this ending screen is slightly more "notable" than others, having it in the transcript doesn't improve the page. In fact, it's distracting, IMHO. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:02, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Skydive ==

What makes you think Strong Bad skydiving is a blatant lie? I think it is just one of thousands of the unfortunate things that has happened to him, and that the “What am I, your dad? I can't believe I pulled the old "mash Stop when you think you're mashing Record and mash Record when you think you're mashing Stop" routine on myself.” is just a hilarious explanation.
:I don't think that the part where he actualy skydived was a lie. I mean, He was in a plan with a parachute, but I think the part with the "narwhale" and "celebrities" was a lie. {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 20:10, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

== Real cool flavour? ==

I have to say that every time I watch this at Cool Tapes' song I hear real fruit flavour, not real cool flavour, anyone else hear it this way? -- [[User:McArbys|The McArby!]] 22:57, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
: I can't tell one way or the other. I will add that "fruit" only makes sense if you consider the first Cool Tapes appearance, and only vaguely then. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:06, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

== Misspelling ==

Was misspelling "welcome" in the title deliberate? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 21:18, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
:[[Unusual_Greetings#Weclome|I would assume it was.]] {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 21:28, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Doe Not rememberers will be stopped! ==

Ok, when Homestar says "But Doe Not rememberers...exedra exedra" Is it a relation to Senor Cardgage in "Senorial Day!" saying, "You doe not want to miss out on any of the action!" Or whatever that sentance was? [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]Jibblejibblejibble
: Since he's specifically talking about donuts in this case, I doubt it, but I suppose it's possible. (BTW, it's "et cetera", not "exedra". Or just "etc." works.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Weclome Back

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Jibblejibblejibble: /**/Doe Not rememberers will be stopped!

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==Agatha Christie/Angela Lansbury==
Shouldn't the part explaning that be in Real-World References, rather than Remarks? Seems to me like it should. -- [[User:Michelle Mabelle|Michelle Mabelle]]

Yes, I think so, and doesn't it reference the character Angela Lansbury played in murder she wrote more than the miss marple movie she was in?
she played a mystery writer who solved mysteries. -- phantom

==Bologna==
We can leave the Baloney in Baloney Sammich Truck but otherwise it should be bologna
:Both are accepted spellings... [http://m-w.com/dictionary/baloney Merriam-Webster] lists Baloney as a variant of Bologna. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Those words have undergone differentiation. ''Baloney'' is properly only "nonsense", and the meat product is ''bologna''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It's dot com, I don't think that's a true statement. M-W shows it as a variant of "bologna"; if you have a dictionary citation where it's noted that "baloney" doesn't mean "bologna" anymore, then provide it. Especially as they use the "baloney" spelling in the toon, and barring absence of evidence that it cannot adequately mean the meat, we should use the "baloney" spelling throughout. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: Touché. Sandwich was also misspelled as "sammich" so the explicit use of "baloney' was probably just word play.
:::::"Sammich" is not a documented and accepted spelling of "sandwich", however. "Baloney" is. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: I have personally never seen the sausage meat being spelled as anything except "bologna" in any ''serious'' context. Bubs' truck is hardly what I'd call serious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Because simple personal experience is limited, we have lexicographers whose job it is to determine actual usage on the broad scale. Above it is shown that Merriam Webster's lexicographic staff feels "baloney" is an accepted spelling of the meat product. [http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=5771&dict=CALD Cambridge] and [http://www.bartleby.com/61/79/B0047900.html American Heritage] agree. Oxford seems to disagree, however Oxford is a primarily British dictionary which also documents US usage, so the actual US dictionaries should take precedence here. Note that I am not saying "bologna" would be wrong, but that it would be inconsistent with TBC's usage on the site, and as such would be less appropriate for the knowledge base. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I don't think the outcome of this discussion is very important, but I will note that searching Oscar Meyer's (probably the manufacturer of the most bologna in North America) website for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&u1=keyword&u2=baloney baloney] reveals zero occurrences, and searching for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&u1=keyword&u2=bologna bologna] reveals several. My vote is to refer to it as "bologna" everywhere but "Baloney Sammich Truck". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Of course that's a branding choice on Oscar Meyer's part (the song wouldn't be so great if they had a way with b-a-l-o-n-e-y!), as "baloney" is the branding choice for [http://www.maloneysbaloney.com/ Maloney's Baloney]. Then there's LightLife's [http://www.solae.com/soyproteinproducts/products/foneybaloney.jsp Foney Baloney], another clear branding choice. One would expect branding usage to be consistent, regardless of whether the word is real or not, or whether the form of the word is more, less, or equally prevalent in American English. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Also, I think it's strange to assume that "baloney" is TBC's preferred spelling based off of "Baloney Sammich Truck"; no one's arguing that "sandwich" should be respelled "sammich" everywhere in the article... :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Again, as I noted above, no one would argue that, because "sammich" is not a lexicographically-accepted word. "Baloney" is, as I think I have proven, as correct a spelling as "bologna" in American English, and to insist on using a spelling TBC did not use in this case seems a little odd to me. Compare to this: what if they did a toon about "pop" and people argued we should call it "soda" because it matches their personal experience? This is NOT a case of them making up a word or spelling out a slang term, and the line of thinking we'd use if they called it "ba-low-knee" or something else like that doesn't apply. It's my position that if they use a real spelling of a real word in canon, we should follow suit when discussing canon. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think it's pretty much a regional spelling difference, like saying 'soda' or 'pop'. Most people, I would assume, have seen both. Since the only documented instance of the word's spelling is 'baloney', I think we should continue that spelling throughout, although add somewhere "baloney (which can also be spelled bologna)".[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 22:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::If only they had misspelled "truck" — then the case would be clear! Since this isn't the case, I think Trelawney's suggestion is the best compromise, although I would change the parenthetical statement to "(more commonly spelled bologna)". And now I plan to spend no more time thinking about this molehill. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm not questioning the veracity of the various dictionaries you noted, nor am I suggesting that ''baloney'' isn't a variant of ''bologna''. What I am saying is that, given their differentiation, ''baloney'' in the sense of the meat product is a ''needless'' variant (for my source and some excellent further reading, I highly recommend ''[[Special:Booksources/0195161912|Garner's Modern American Usage]]''). As for this toon, I don't have a good answer there. It clearly reads "Baloney" on the truck, which is why I have made no attempt to change the references in the transcript. Whether or not TBC were being tongue-in-cheek with the spelling is anyone's guess, but, as much as I dislike it, we should spell it consistently without a better reason not to. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I will say that because bubs spelled Sandwich as Sammich. We should spell it sammich the whole article and i'm off! {{unsigned|Taste of your medicine|03:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)}}

:I'd caution against disrupting the wiki to illustrate a point, as [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point|Wikipedia does in this guideline]]. Please discuss the issue here on the talk page and not through edits and edit summaries. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:Please review my points above, in particular my 22:03, 3 July 2006 UTC post. With which part of that do you disagree? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

::I'd just like to add that "sammich" is pronounced differently to "sandwich", so it was clear which one to transcribe. When Bubs said "I'm-tryingtosellabaloneysammich!" he clearly says "sammich", and when he says "I drove my baloney sandwich truck down to the beach" he clearly says "sandwich". Yes, I thought of that while I was transcribing - I considered using "sammich" everywhere too, but that wasn't what he was ''saying''. With baloney/bologna, there is no such differentiation - the only difference is in the spelling, and the decision boils down to "we should use the correct term" vs "we should use the term that's still an accepted variant, but would be consistant". I think the latter is the better choice. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:::It was word play! Tell you what. A wiki and fourm consensus seems like what we should do, I say we vote on this to be truly fair. At next Tuesday we take the winner and post that in Weclome Back. '''TOYM''' 15:42 UTC 4 July 2006

::::I think we should just spell it however Los` Brotheren Cowboy Boots spell it. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Quick question: Has anyone considered the possibility that Bubs is trying to sell ''nonsense'' sandwiches, as opposed to bologna sandwiches? That if someone actually bought a sammich from Bubs on this deserted [[island]], they'd get a couple slices of bread, maybe with a [[Fortune Cookies|fortune]] inside or something? :) It could just be one of the [[isp|99 ways he rips you off]]. That would be a good case for leaving it "baloney", IMHO. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:17, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:Uh... can I simply say that this whole bologna/baloney controversy began with an incorrect assumption that "baloney" is not an acceptable spelling of the meat many call "bologna"? With many respected lexicons agreeing on its acceptance, thereby setting that incorrect assumption aside, there's no purpose in formulating an excuse for the use of the spelling we are using. We're using good American English, and we have no need to fear we're being imprecise or uncivilized, or to otherwise feel bad about it.
::Well ''I'' feel guilty ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

==Strong Bad on the Airplane==
Did anybody notice that Strongbad didn't move with the plane? Should we put this under goofs?
:I don't think it was a goof; I think it was an intentional choice on the part TBC. They probably thought it would look better if SB wasn't jiggling the whole time he was talking. Also, cartoons don't necessarily have to obey physics. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Is it worth noting that on the video StrongBad recorded, he doesn't appear to be actually wearing a parachute -- just a helmet? -- Catgirl
:I think both the above statements deserve to be in remarks at least. {{User:NFITC1/sig}}

==Topiary==
Who is that man in the topiary garden? It doesn't look anything like the bust of [[Van Buren]]... Rogue mentioned Shakespere in IRC, and it bears a resemblance... what do people think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:I think it might just be Shakespere.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 16:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::I gotta agree with H*Bad. Shakespeare is who I immediately thought of when I saw that. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 16:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I, too, thought of the Bard of Avon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::One more vote for Shakespeare... that's why come he's so awesome. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::::I thought it was Bach when I first saw it, and since Bach is referenced in the same scene (Rockin' with Bach), it seems to make sense.[[user:AndrewS|AndrewS]]
::::::It's definitely Shakespeare. Bach was always depicted with a full wig and no facial hair, whereas the most famous portrait of Old Billie has him balding with medium-long hair and a Van Dyke. And the earring. [[User:Catgirl|Catgirl]]

== Chaps upgrade to Flash 8? ==

They've said before that they still use Flash 5 (or was it Flash MX, I forget). But this eppisode used alot more blurred objects then usual (in the plane, the blades of grass the camera records and the quick zoom in on h*) and bluring is a new feature added to Flash 8 (Chaps have previously used photoshop to do this). I'm working on importing the flash file into my Flash 8, I'll see if that has any clues. --John

No, it's still made in 7. They just used images I guess. --B14Z3

:Well, I don't know 'bout you, but my copy of Flash 7 can blur stuff. It can also addd accurate shadows, made explosions, and somethin' else I can't remember. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::They said they use Flash 5 though, not 7 or 8. {{User:Dagger/sig}} 05:35, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== Doin' that thing you do ==
The lyric referring to "our bass player" reminds me of ''[[IMDb:tt0117887|That Thing You Do!]]'', where the bass guitarist had no other name than T(he) B(ass) Player. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Heh, thats true.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 17:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Actually TBC are most likely referring to the fact that bass players are generally un-notested

== "The part with the narwhal?" ==

At least, I think SB said Narwhal. You don't get that many of them in midair, but I'd imagine one of the celebrities had brought one along.
:There were no celebrities.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide? It's far too subtle for me to add it, though someone braver might include it. At least it should die in STUFF.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 19:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::That was a sperm whale, though, not a narwhal. It's probably just cause narwhals are so cool. :)[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::Not to metion the marked lack of a Bowl of Petunias. [[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]] 01:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I dunno, narwhals seem to have a habit of [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/penguincalls coming out of nowhere] in the world of Macromedia Flash (see #9, although it's better to watch them in order). It wouldn't surprise me at all to have one pop up midair in Free Country USA. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 04:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::It should be noted that the "Penguin Calls" flash you just linked to was made by the same person--drewmo--that did the Narwhal Diving game, which the toon appears to reference. Everything's connected. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yeah. Drewmo/Spinnerdisc.com does a lot of stuff with narwhales. including [http://www.spinnerdisc.com/plaid_ep2.html tiny plaid ninjas episode #2] (click the shoe), on which the game was first based. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 19:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

== Homsars hat flying off... ==
...and then coming back, reminds me of the parts from Airplane! when one of the characters tossed their jacket and it came back to him.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, I think the sae thing happened with a hat too. I love that movie.... {{User:Salty/sig}} 18:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Homsar's hat comes back to him all the time. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Maybe its something that the Chapmans took from the movie.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I just thinks that he threw it around the world, so naturally it came back to him. Homsar would do that kind of thing. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Or it simply flew around behind the viewer. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:It should be pointed out that in the movie, the hat and jacket came back from the direction he threw them, as if someone tossed them back, not from the opposite direstion, which is what Homsar's hat did.-[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 03:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Did anyone notice... ==
The audio levels in this tune were kinda subpar. I suppose it might be my computer, god knows my speakers are dying, but I've watched every toon on the site and I've never had problems understanding as much dialogue as this one. The Cheat and Strong Mad were playing so loudly I couldn't hear Marzy...
Oh, and Homestar's eyes looked kinda small in his sleepyhead outfit, didn't they?

== Blogs? ==

Did it sound to anyone else like Strong Bad said "ladies' blogs", not "latest blogs"? [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 03:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:I thought so at first too, but on a re-listen it was pretty clearly "latest" to me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::I myself heard "latest blogs". {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I heard "latest blogs" but that's probably because I didn't know there was such thing as a vlog until I read this hrwiki article. I guess vlogs would make more sense though, considering Strong bad is (or at least thinks he is) taping the event on video. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 17:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:I heard "ladies' blogs" when I first watched it and was actually surprised to see it transcribed as "latest blogs" here. Personally, I think he was saying "ladies" but it sounded similar to "latest" because of that Strong Badian pseudo-Mexican accent we've all come to know and love. Besides, given his constant and hopeless obsession with attempting to impress "the ladies", it would be a very much in-character thing for him to say. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:33, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

== Vlog or Blog? ==

Is it vlog or blog in the transcript? The real-world refernces say about vlogs... [[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 09:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's Eyes ==

Did anybody else notice that Homestar's eyes were flipped during his "sleepy" mode? - {{User:Super Sonic X/Sig}} 13:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:It happened in [[Biz Cas Fri 3]], too. [[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 20:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Rival camps ==

Right now we have the following real-world reference:
*Athletic competitions between summer camps occupying the same campground are common in family movies and cartoons.
Could someone add a well-known example to this fact; I can't think of one offhand. Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

The movie Heavyweights is a good example of this
-TheDensel

I just added "Heavyweights" (didn't see TheDensel's comment) and "Meatballs" to the fact. [[User:69.217.59.140|69.217.59.140]] 16:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Goofs ==
First of all, weclome? (it's spelled wrong) That's on purpose, right? It doesn't really seem to stand out, and it seems like if it was on purpose, TBC would make it stand out more. Second, strongbad doesn't wiggle with the plane. Should we add these?
:I think both are intentional: the former has [[Unusual_Greetings#Weclome|its own page]], and see [[Talk:Weclome Back#Strong Bad on the Airplane|my comments on the latter]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

==Arm length and head position goof?==
When Strong Bad is turning on his camera in the plane, his arm is abnormally long (stretchy??), also his head is in "front" of his laptop's screen. A few frames later he pulls his head back behind the screen (where we'd normally see it) -- it almost looks as if his head just passed through the laptop. [[User:75.26.2.227|75.26.2.227]] 19:19, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Westerburg/berg ==

"Burg" is the german word for "Castle", while "Berg" is for "Mount(ain)". Both are very common suffixes for german town names as well. Coincidence?

== TBC Vacation ==

I have a feeling that the reason why the site didn't update much is because TBC went on vacation? This cartoon sounds like a way of telling everyone. Oh, and please don't remove this comment again. It ticks me off. [[User:King Cheesia|King Cheesia]]
:I'm sorry to hear that. You see, your comment doesn't really belong here: it doesn't have anything to do with the content of the ''article'' about this toon, which is what this talk page is for. On the other hand, there is a [[Forum:8992|forum thread]] specifically for opinions and chatter about the toon itself. Also, this is kind of already mentioned in the [[Weclome Back#Explanations|Explanations]] section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
::I heard they took a break from the site because their dad died. Any verification?
:::Let's see; Don Chapman sadly passed away on April 15, 2006. However, the Brothers Chaps soldiered on and continued to update the site with Thy Dungeonman 3, senior prom and isp. After that, the site was quiet from May 16, 2006, until July 3, 2006, except for the occasional Store or Podstar Runner updates. Note that the break started a month after Don's death, so I don't think that was the reason why the site wasn't updated during June. Also, the toon, Weclome Back, seems to imply that the Brothers Chaps went on vacation, just like almost everyone in the toon. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:57, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

==Island trivia==
Do we really know for a fact that "The island is used in this toon because in the DVD commentary on Strong Bad Email island, Matt said they should use the island again"? Sounds like hearsay to me. It could just as easily be based on a whim, or that it's the only previously seen beach for one to drive to. - (Random Nitpicky Person) 23:31, 4 July 2006 (EST)
:Hasn't it been reused since that commentary anyway? Was it in [[disconnected]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Baloney Sammich Truck==
[[Image:Baloneytruck.PNG|thumb|Like magic?]]
Can someone upload a picture of that beach scene? Specifically when Bubs says "You shut your face" to the atari seagul?-[[User:68.113.192.114|68.113.192.114]] 03:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:C'n I ask why? I mean, I'll do it an' everything, but I wanna know what it's for. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Already on it. Here you go: {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Narwhal is a reference to AKA Driver... ''how'' exactly? ==

How is Narwhal Diving a reference to AKA Driver? I've looked up the lyrics for said song and there's not a single line in the song mentioning narwhals. In addition, drewmo (the author of Narwhal Diving) has posted in the forum topic for Weclome Back, saying he's never heard AKA Driver. I'd say we have reasonable doubt here... ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:I agree. Other than "Narwhal Diver" and "NyQuil Driver" sounding alike, there's nothing. --[[User:4.159.116.75|4.159.116.75]] 18:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:Fair enough. The similarity in name seemed more than coincidental to me, but I guess not.

== I'm with gluten/stupid ==
Strong Sad's "I'm with gluten" t-shirt seems to be a reference to the "I'm with stupid" t-shirts, which I think were popular in the eighties. Might be something more to it, though.[[User:Old Timey Me|Old Timey Me]] 03:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
:It almost certainly is, but I think that'd be explaining the joke, which we avoid. Unless most viewers wouldn't get the reference, such a joke-explaining comment talks down to the reader, and we avoid them. Of course, it being an obvious joke is merely my opinion, I may be wrong. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
::I think it's worth a shot — I hadn't noticed it, even though I'm familiar with the "stupid" shirts. And I'm sure there's a healthy portion of people who haven't seen the shirt. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

==Homestar Running Gag==
Isnt it a Running Gag with Homestar to announce something, then immidietly ask what he is hearing about so-and-so happening (Sleeping through June, not bringing Donuts, and from the Marzipan Answering machine, hearing about this Boyfriend Dan)
:Well, if it happens any more it will be notable. But what would you title a page like this? {{User:Salty/sig}} 06:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

==Bubs' Voice==
A lot of the characters' voices have been more and more pronounced lately. I noticed this with Strong Bad, and for example in Weclome Back, Bubs' voice sounds very Limozeen-y, and less Bubs-y. It's a little irritating. Did anyone else notice this? [[User:Quite|Quite]] 23:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

== Toot sweet/tout de suite? ==

Near the beginning, I thought Marzipan's response to Bubs' question about her vacation was that it was "toot sweet" a reference to a song in the movie Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. (sign your posts)
:See [[Template:STUFF/Weclome Back|STUFF]]. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

==Trogdor Filmography?==
[[Trogdor]] appears in this toon, albeit in topiary garden form. Does this count as an "appearance" worthy of adding this article to the [[:Category:Trogdor Filmography|Trogdor Filmography Category]]? --[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:The_Homestrongzipansadcheatsmith http://www.hrwiki.org/images/3/3b/The_homestrongzipansadcheatsmith2.PNG] [[User talk:The Homestrongzipansadcheatsmith|Tlk]]/[[Special:Contributions/The_Homestrongzipansadcheatsmith|Cnt]] 19:59, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
:We've added characters to their filmography categories for similar things before (for example, [[Homsar]]'s appearance in [[stupid stuff]]). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Pom Pom Eyes ==

At the ending part, did anyone else think that Pom Pom's eyes were too far apart? --{{User:Fizz123/sig}}
:Perhaps, but isn't it a little bit extreme to be analyzing the distance between Pom Pom's eyes? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:44, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
::It just looked unnatural... --{{User:Fizz123/sig}}
:::It ''did'' look a little off, but he was facing right at the camera, which is also unusual... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I always figured that like his appendages, his other features can just kind of float around to an extent. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:38, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== Light in the Leftovers ==

Is there a way to compare this phrase with "Light in the loafers" without offending people? Or should I not bother.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 22:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

:This has already been dealt with; the decision seems to be "don't point it out." --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 22:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

::It's highly unlikely that Homsar meant anything related to sexuality by saying the phrase, and nothing else in the scene suggests or even hints at a sexual theme. Therefore, the connection between "leftovers" and "loafers" must just be a coincidence, and Homsar was referring to something else. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Actually, most of what Homsar says (with the exception of that message he left for Marzipan) means nothing at all, and is not related to anything. I think it is a play of "light in the loafers", but since we have little kids here, this one (like [[senior prom|David Coppafeel]]) can slide. --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 22:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

::::[[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns|This article might interest you...]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:07, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Commonly misunderstood Coach ===
{{stufffact|Coach Z's line about "Glorten" Camp echoes a similar line from him in [[mascot]]. There, he refers to the same entity in two different ways, and here, he refers to two different entities in the same way.}}
{{stuffverdict|06:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)|17:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)|declined|17|10|Weclome Back}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Whistling candy ===
{{stufffact|"Toot sweet" is a play on the French phrase ''"tout de suite"'' (which translates to "immediately" or "at once"). Both phrases are pronounced roughly the same.}}
{{stuffverdict|23:08, 3 July 2006 (UTC)|04:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|23|3|Weclome Back}}

== New pants? ==

Did anyone else notice that Strong Bad's pants had purple shadows on them in this toon? I don't think I've seen those pants in anything before or after this one. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 01:07, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
:Looks/sounds like the [[Strong Bad Evolution|sixth design]] to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Johnny Castaway ==

I'm pretty sure that there is a reference to Johnny Castaway here. Remember how Johnny always used those thought bubbles to show what he was thinking? Pom Pom and the Poopsmith do that in the easter egg. The lo-res bird that Bubs yells at seems to be circumstantial evidence too. I'm pretty certain about this one but it got cut from the article very quickly when I posted it a few days ago. Anyone else remember/willing to investigate Johnny Castaway (from screen antics)?

== Gumball Surprise = reference? ==

Hey guys,

You know, Gumball Surprise reminds me of those "character" ice cream bars with gumball eyes or noses that you sometimes find being sold on ice cream trucks. (And "Not a real popsicle" is obviously another ice-cream-truck reference...)--[[User:71.131.30.63|71.131.30.63]] 21:00, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Possibly. I would [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Weclome_Back&action=edit add it] and see if anyone takes it away. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== And this is ''how'' many times they've said -pèd? ==

I'm just saying, but I think they've sayed stripèd or shapèd numerous times in the HR universe. Possibly a word running gag? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:36, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
:That's why we have a page for "[[-èd]]." {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 04:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
::Which I created. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:54, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Hehe, yeah...sorry 'bout that. Didn't realize that. {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 17:37, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

== Purple Gumball? ==

It's very clearly pink. I'm gonna be '''bold''' and change it. You know who to blame. -- [[User:4.244.210.252|4.244.210.252]] 03:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

==Pete Townsend...really?==
The Fun Facts mention Marzy's guitar destruction as a direct reference to Pete Townsend. Is this apt, given the numbers of people who perform similar acts? [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]]
:Um...what guitar destruction? It never actually showed her smashing it. {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 01:53, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad goof? ==

When we see Strong Bad ranting about the whole "Oh, cuh-''rap''! What am I, your dad?" thing, we see nothing but the background of The Field behind him. But then, after it zooms out to see all the characters, the telephone pole with the time clock on it, it is halfway obscured by Strong Bad. Shouldn't the pole have been obscured by SB during his close-up? {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 04:49, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

==Seagull==

I'm not a pro on this wiki like you guys, so I'll let you guys edit this, but the seagull isn't an "Atari" sea gull. It's from California Games by Epyx. Classic game. Anyway, the seagull comes from the hackey-sack event. {{unsigned|128.12.162.3|05:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)}}

== title ==

am i the only one who thought it was 'lc' not 'cl' in the title. i just noticed that. [[User:Homsarstrongbad150|Homsarstrongbad150]] 02:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
:Naw, I thought it was ''Welcome'' Back too for a while. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 02:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

== Image in Transcript ==

Why is the "everybody everybody" image in the transcript? to me it looks out of place and unneeded. For history's sake (and to save everyone else the trouble of sifting through), it was added [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Weclome_Back&diff=prev&oldid=344580 here] by BazookaJoe. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:00, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:It was initially used on the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:whatsnew&diff=next&oldid=341565 What's New?] bar on the main page, probably as to prevent a spoiler. It was probably added to this page later so we wouldn't lose it, and could still make use of it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:42, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::That doesn't address the question of whether it looks good there or not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:46, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I think it fits nicely. {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 01:54, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::I think it's out of place, as DeFender said. No other toon has an image in its transcript, and it was my understanding we try to avoid it. And though this ending screen is slightly more "notable" than others, having it in the transcript doesn't improve the page. In fact, it's distracting, IMHO. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:02, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Skydive ==

What makes you think Strong Bad skydiving is a blatant lie? I think it is just one of thousands of the unfortunate things that has happened to him, and that the “What am I, your dad? I can't believe I pulled the old "mash Stop when you think you're mashing Record and mash Record when you think you're mashing Stop" routine on myself.” is just a hilarious explanation.
:I don't think that the part where he actualy skydived was a lie. I mean, He was in a plan with a parachute, but I think the part with the "narwhale" and "celebrities" was a lie. {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 20:10, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

== Real cool flavour? ==

I have to say that every time I watch this at Cool Tapes' song I hear real fruit flavour, not real cool flavour, anyone else hear it this way? -- [[User:McArbys|The McArby!]] 22:57, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
: I can't tell one way or the other. I will add that "fruit" only makes sense if you consider the first Cool Tapes appearance, and only vaguely then. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:06, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

== Misspelling ==

Was misspelling "welcome" in the title deliberate? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 21:18, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
:[[Unusual_Greetings#Weclome|I would assume it was.]] {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 21:28, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Doe Not rememberers will be stopped! ==

Ok, when Homestar says "But Doe Not rememberers...exedra exedra" Is it a relation to Senor Cardgage in "Senorial Day!" saying, "You doe not want to miss out on any of the action!" Or whatever that sentance was? [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]Jibblejibblejibble

Talk:Halloween Potion-ma-jig

Jibblejibblejibble — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:22:16 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/Location, Location, Location 2!!!

Talk:Bubs's Shady Business Practices

Jibblejibblejibble — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 20:23:03 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/100 different answers for it.

== Rename? ==
I say move to "Bubs's Bad Business Practices" per Doomy Tales. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:50, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:Nah, "Shady" has a much nicer ring. "Bad" can mean a lot of things (evil, bad quality, poorly run), and I think they chose it just for the ''Pulp Fiction'' reference. "Shady", on the other hand, conveys the right nuance. It's a word that's used in the canon with regularity, too. In [[Broken Compy Menu]], Homestar asks, "What kinda shady Bubs business you running here anyways?" — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:03, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::I agree, "Shady" sounds much better! (And shadier too). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:04, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the little tidbit that's worth adding. You're right. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:06, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== Questionable Medical Coverage ==

What section would the questionable medical coverage from [[Donut unto others]] go under? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:19, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:How about "Insurance fraud"? [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 21:51, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::I like it, but maybe just "Fraud" as it'll allow for a wider range of offenses. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== Stub ==
Does anyone else think we should remove the stub tag? I can't think of any ones that we missed. Ecept maybe for him changing his costume to get money in The House that gave sucky treats, but I don't think that counts as business. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 17:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:You're right. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 18:04, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Wait a minute, I just rememberd. Would Bubs selling Marzipan eggs as organic batteries count as false advertising? [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 18:20, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:Also, sould it be noted in the intro that he was in federal prison in Play Date. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 18:27, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

== Uncertain additions ==

If your uncertain if your would-be contribution to the list counts just post it under here and have it disscused. I'll go first
*[[Quality time]] — Bubs sells eggs to marzipan as "organic batteries". (false advertising)
[[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 20:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
: I say it counts, and '''be bold'''. After it's been reverted (with a valid reason in the edit summary) you can discuss it on the talk page; until then, if you think it belongs, add it! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:38, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

== 100 different answers for it. ==

Ok, about the "1 flavor, over a hundred different names for it!" deal in "Donut Unto Others" I think thats false advertising or some type of trick. What should I put that under?!

User talk:Acam30

Jibblejibblejibble — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 17:02:24 GMT

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== Talk Page Posts ==
Hi, I've noticed that you've commented on some talk pages about up-for-discussion pages. Your comments were unprofessional and unrelated to the usefulness or lack thereof of the page in question. While keeping a good sense of humor is encouraged, there is a line, which I believe you might have crossed. Please try to keep it professional in the future. Happy future tranglings! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:33, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:You know it's very rude to remove a talk post without replying to it. I'm trying to help you here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

srry. im new to this. so how am i not being professional? --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 19:40, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

:Here, for example let's take your edit to [[Talk:Tentacle Skull]]:
:<blockquote>he should totally have his own page, because he is not just just a skull, he is a skull with ''tentacles'', which may i point out is way better. --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 19:18, 30 July 2007 (UTC)</blockquote>
:It doesn't matter how much cooler a skull with tentacles is, it matters how often it's appeared in the cartoons, whether it was a big enough influence on the toon, etc.

:Also, you edited my user page by mistake, i think you meant to edit my talk page. I moved your comment there. I would love to help you out. Any questions you can feel free to ask me (on my talk page, not my user page.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

o right srry i didnt realize there was a difference. but how do u get pictures on your page because i can't figure it out. --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 19:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

o and thanx for the advice. --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 19:52, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:The basic code for adding an image is <nowiki>[[Image:<imagename>]]</nowiki> and then you can add different things like |thumb and stuff. It might be a good idea to read up on wiki code, or study the code of a page that has something similar to what you want to do. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

thanx :) --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 19:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

do you have to but the less than signs around the name? cuz it still isnt working for me. --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 20:02, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

no, in computer talk <example> is an example of something. the signs just say "this isn't what you actually write here, you write whatever should go here". Hope that helps. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I saw on your user page u want tips to make it cooler? then make a user box! and put this '''awsome''' ''friend'' award!!!!
{|
{{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:First prize.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user is an awsome friend from {{User:Geoblu2/sig}}}}
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just edit copy the code above and paste in your user page it should work right defender? okay!!--{{User:Geoblu2/sig}} 20:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

thanx for the pic! -[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 23:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

looks good! if u want to start a colum of user boxes (see my user boxes) add right above the code:
{ {user box top} } (minus the spaces) to make a starting box okay? okay!--{{User:Geoblu2/sig}} 01:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

(Ahahaha... oh the memories. Such a long time ago. xD {{User:Acam30/sig}} 01:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC))

== Welcome ==
Hey there! you seem pretty new so... Welcome! You can copy my User Page if you want.--{{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}} 22:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC) P.S. Thank you for standing up for [[Tears]].

== Monty Python ==

I don't think that's quite long enough...Therefore, you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest... wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiith... a herring!! -[[User:The_Knights_Who_Say_Ni|The Knight]][[Special:Contributions/The_Knights_Who_Say_Ni|s Who Till Recently]] [[User_talk:The_Knights_Who_Say_Ni|Said Ni]] 04:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm6IA_sZ1lw

idk if you've seen that or what but it's hilarious -{{User:The_Knights_Who_Say_Ni/sig}} 15:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

== Using Show Preview ==
Hello Acam30, I see that you have made several consecutive edits to the same page. I want to point out the Show Preview button. It's right next to the Save Page button when you edit. You should use it whenever you are making a lot of experimental edits, for example when you are trying to get formatting right. Using the Show Preview button is quicker and easier than saving and clicking "edit" again, and will keep [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] and page histories from being flooded. Thanks,

--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:08, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
;Thanks
:Thanks for the tip. Hopefully I'll remember. --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 21:10, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
::Not a problem! All it takes is a little practice and determination. Also, since the wiki is small we have a habit of keeping conversations in one place. Makes them easier to read. Take it easy. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:15, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== You're goose is cooked ==
[[Image:Congraturation.png|thumb|Just a single congraturation they had lying around the video game make place.]]
Can somebody get me a picture of when the goose is thrown at Strong Sad? I want it for me userpage but I don't know how to get it. And whoever gets me one... gets to be the coolest person ever. Thanks! --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 21:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:[[Image:Ssgoose.png|100px]]
Here. If you need another picture of the site press the button on your keyboard that says "Print screen". Then, go into any drawing program and paste the image in. {{User:Peter222/sig}}
:And here's your image of the lone congraturation. Keep in mind that this now marks your limit of two [[HRWiki:Personal images|personal images]]. By the way, I can isolate just the congraturation by itself instead, if that's what you had in mind. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I think only the one oyu gave me counts. I used the other picture for a userbox. --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 04:20, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
:Since both of those images are used only on your userspace, I'm afraid they both count. You can abandon the goose one if you use [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?ns6=1&search=narrator&searchx=Search one of these] for your narrator userbox. It's up to you. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 08:07, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh alright thanks. --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 16:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Sig ==

Speaking of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&curid=1159&diff=574781&oldid=574780&rcid=532618 sigs], you don't seem to have one. And you don't have to have one .. even some sysops don't .. but you seem like the kind of person that might want to express herself with a sig. Correct me if I'm wrong. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 22:33, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes but the wiki stuff is too complex for my brain. I'd like one but I'm really just to lazy to get one... or figure out how to get one, rather. --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 22:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:I'm happy to help, if you want. Did it for Señor [[User:Pacoman|Pacoman]] just recently. Let me know. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks that would be awesome! Could you make it pink and have a pic of Homsar? That's pretty much it. --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 01:54, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Not enough information. =] Homsar in what pose? Full body or cropped or what? Floating, standing, talking, costumed .. decapitated? Here are a few images that are already on the wiki:
:::[[Image:homsar evolution current.png|13px]] [[Image:CharacterVidHomsar.png|28px]] [[Image:homsarcharacter.PNG|23px]] [[Image:Homsarmustachioed.PNG|19px]] [[Image:HomsarProtester.png|14px]] [[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|20px]] [[Image:Halloween 2007 Homsar.PNG|16px]] [[Image:Gum Homsar.PNG|19px]] [[Image:Two Fez Homsars.PNG|67px]] [[Image:Homsarchimes.PNG|47px]]
:::Or if there's another image on the site that you want, that works, too. Or if you want me to get another screenshot for it, I can do that, too. Any pose from any toon, and I can even remove the background (or make the background pink!) if you want. Be specific. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 08:06, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Or maybe you'll just like one of these:
:::::••''Acam30'' http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5130/homsarpinkuk7.png
:::::or
:::::••''Acam30'' http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1883/chibipinkpg3.png
::::What do you think? =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 09:16, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::::: Chibi robo! I like the Homsar pic a lot... But that pink chibi is awesome. Could you make the font bold and not italic on both of them? I'm kinda leaning towards the Homsar one but I wanna see them with a different font. Thanks! This is so awesome! --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 18:58, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::Bold, without italics:
:::::::••'''Acam30''' http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5130/homsarpinkuk7.png
:::::::or
:::::::••'''Acam30''' http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1883/chibipinkpg3.png
::::::Here are some choices of fonts (#1 of each list is the font I used above):
:::::::Plain:
:::::::1. Acam30 2. Acam30, 3. Acam30, 4. Acam30, 5. Acam30, 6. Acam30, 7. Acam30
:::::::Italics only:
:::::::1. ''Acam30'' 2. ''Acam30'', 3. ''Acam30'', 4. ''Acam30'', 5. ''Acam30'', 6. ''Acam30'', 7. ''Acam30''
:::::::Bold only:
:::::::1. '''Acam30''' 2. '''Acam30''', 3. '''Acam30''', 4. '''Acam30''', 5. '''Acam30''', 6. '''Acam30''', 7. '''Acam30'''
:::::::Bold and Italics:
:::::::1. '''''Acam30''''' 2. '''''Acam30''''', 3. '''''Acam30''''', 4. '''''Acam30''''', 5. '''''Acam30''''', 6. '''''Acam30''''', 7. '''''Acam30'''''
::::::Want to see a "finished product" with any of those? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:38, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I like the 5th bold one... could you take out the backround on this one [[Image:Gum Homsar.PNG|19px]] maybe? And make him be wearing pink? --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 21:22, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::The 5th one is the font the wiki primarily uses; it's called Verdana. It's what's used in my sig, and bold even. Nice choice! Now the problem with doing a full-body Homsar is that his face is white and without a background at 20px high it makes his head "disappear". (I took the gum off his face before shrinking the image, by the way.) Anyway, here are some comparisons again, this time with em dashes instead of bullets:
:::::::::— '''Acam30''' http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5130/homsarpinkuk7.png
:::::::::or
:::::::::— '''Acam30''' http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1883/chibipinkpg3.png
:::::::::or
:::::::::— '''Acam30''' http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2541/pinkhomsar20pxfn7.png
:::::::::or
:::::::::— '''Acam30''' http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/969/soyrwooxt3.png
::::::::What next? =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 22:34, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh... that is your font isn't it. Haha that last one is hilarious. I don't even remember where I linked to my DA page. I don't know if you could maybe put a shape behind the full Homsar or something? I just really don't like when the picture looks cut of with flat the edges. And maybe try the same font bold AND italics? --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 03:05, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::The shape I chose was ... a circle! Anything else might be a pain in the butt, unless you wanted a rectangle, which it already was when it had its background. =] Anyway, this time I threw all the colors into one file... to save myself some time. Hopefully you can get the idea with this:
:::::::::::— '''''Acam30''''' http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7484/homsaroncirclesgo6.png
:::::::::::or
:::::::::::•• '''''Acam30''''' http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7484/homsaroncirclesgo6.png
::::::::::If you like the idea after having seen it, pick a color and I'll get it uploaded. And how about bullets vs. the em dash? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:35, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I like the dash better than the bullets... the font is good and I like the first Homsar with the burgundy-ish backround. I think I'm gonna go with that stuff for the final sig. Thanks so much! --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 20:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::[[User:Acam30/sig|Done!]] That'll be $900. Now add <code><nowiki>{{User:Acam30/sig}}</nowiki></code> [[Special:Preferences|here]] where it says "Signature:" and check the box labeled "Raw signatures (without automatic link)" then click "Save". After that, <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> will work to fill in your new sig. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:53, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Yay!!! Thanks so much for helping me! I have a signature now, whoo!!! {{User:Acam30/sig}} 21:32, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::It's not quite finished. According to [[HRWiki:Signature]], your sig must include a link to your user page. I tried adding it for you, but it wouldn't stay pink when I did it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:41, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::I fixed it! Now i'll do a dance. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Thanks guys... whoa you people are fast. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 21:46, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Not fast my dear, just very very bored and obsessed with patrolling recent changes. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:47, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks guys... whoa you people are fast '''and''' apparently very bored. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 21:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::Ha! I'll bet that guy that made your sig feels pretty stupid about now. After all that, he forgets to even link it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 21:56, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::It's okay Opty. Everyone thinks I'm a broom. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 23:47, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Background Colors ==

<blockquote>'''June 15''' 
I'm getting the hang of user boxes kind of... but I need some help.How to you find the code for the backround colors? Thanks to anyone who helps!</blockquote>

Not sure if you'd gotten an answer to this yet... The codes for color are hexadecimal numbers and are commonly called RGB. They always start with the ''#'' sign and then are 6 digits long, the first 2 are how much red is in the color, the second 2 are for green, and the last 2 blue. ''00'' is the lowest value and ''FF'' is the highest. (The hexadecimal number 0xFF is 255 in decimal).

{|
|-
| style="background:#f00; color: #fff" | #ff0000 || style="background:#0f0" | #00ff00 || style="background:#00f; color: #fff" | #0000ff
|}

Some people who call themselves the "Web Design Group" have a little [http://htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/color.cgi table reference] of colors you might find handy. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 03:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

<nowiki>*is VERY confused*</nowiki> I think I'll check out that color table thing... Thanks so much! --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 04:19, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:See also: [[Help:Color codes]] on our own wiki. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:08, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::Personally, I prefer [http://www.colorschemer.com/online.html this.] It has a simpler layout. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 20:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Idea thief ==

It's okay, I stole the idea from countless other users. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:01, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

:So... I'm a DOUBLE IDEA THEIF? I wonder what my pay is like. Sounds like an interesting job. Maybe I'll start my own Acam30 Type Interview Progrum so I can ask myself. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 03:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
::I see you DID steal my "no life" userbox :) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 07:22, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Well it's a good one. Half of my userboxes are stolen. Just don't tell nobodies... 
:::Hey how do you put the strikeout effect over text? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 13:23, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Easy. <nowiki><s>Just put these tags around what you want to strike out</s></nowiki> {{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::[[Homsar Main Page|Thank yooou]]. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 13:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

== The random musings of a (teenage?) girl ==

I like! It's kind of like an abstract thought of the day. Is a penguin a bird or a duck? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:Umm... I was under the impression that a duck was a bird. This raies some interesting questions... 
:Haha, mostly if something just randomly pops into my head while I'm on the wiki I put it there. So I can look at it later and think "Wow. There was another day when I was bored." {{User:Acam30/sig}} 03:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
::The link on your current one seems to be bad... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Ah, you have an extra | at the end of the link. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I was trying to fix that but couldn't figure it out. Nice to know somebody's reading my rambling though. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 01:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::For your information, my name ONLY starts with D in ENGLISH. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:30, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Do the "jugga jigga wuggas" still follow it in other languages? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Some People ==

ummm...glad to see i made the list, but since when is my favorite Chapman Graham? -{{User:The_Knights_Who_Say_Ni/sig}} 06:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:hmm... I could've sworn I stole the userbox from you... hmm I'll have to figure out where the came from. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 16:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe [[User:Qermaq]], [[User:Raptor5ix]], or [[User:The Teach!]] ? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh yes now ii remember... it was Qermaq. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 17:02, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Theif. :) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:02, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Did YOU steal it from other people? 'Cause even if oyu didn't I'm apparently not the only theif. xD {{User:Acam30/sig}} 00:44, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::To my knowledge [[User:Raptor5ix|Raptor5ix]] originated it. But we're all human, aren't we? If you prick me, do I not bleed? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:58, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::LOLOLOLOL... {{User:Acam30/sig}} 18:00, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

== Hey there. ==

Hey my <s>bromide</s> (sistide?) You look like a cool girl who likes to progress. I was wondering if you'd be interested in hanging out in the wiki's [http://chat.hrwiki.org chatroom]... Computer lab! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Sure. But, uh, what do I press once I click on that link? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 01:34, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
::Haha I had to look up what email that was from 'cause when I first read it I thought:"What the heck is he talkin' 'bout?" I think I need to watch more new lappy-era emails. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 01:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Make sure "#hrwiki" has a check next to it, type "Acam30" into the nickname box, and click "Enter selected channels". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Um... now what? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 01:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I see you there, start talking. it's a chat. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::So what exactly is the point of that? I'm still a bit confused. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 02:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks for telling me about that. You people are more interesting than talking to TBB from YouTube. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 03:51, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::<nowiki>:</nowiki>) You should come back when sammi's online. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:02, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::IRC's lonely right now... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== Awesome ==

Hey wassup Acam30.I just wanna say that your likes is AWESOME!! I'm a Monty Python Fan as well. And I'm into music. So I just wanna say hi and that you may be onto something with Pom Pom and The Poopsmith Relationship comment. I think it makes some sense. - [[User:Sonicfirestorm44|Sonicfirestorm44]] 21:39 19 July 08
:Ha that's cool. Not many people can appreciate good british humor. And on the Pom Pom and Poopsmith article someone already kinda addressed what I said before i said it and i just didn't see it, LOL. But thanks anyways. I try. --{{User:Acam30/sig}} 04:06, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::I do have to say that you did have a good point their. But yeah, british humor is really funny. -[[User:Sonicfirestorm44|Sonicfirestorm44]] 13:35, 20 July 08 (UTC)
:::Have you ever seen Fawlty Towers? It has John Cleese in it. It's funny. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 03:33, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah. Its awesome. [[User:Sonicfirestorm44|Sonicfirestorm44]] 11:33, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== My way cool users list ==
Hey Acam, if you want you can put this on your user page:

{|
{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#FFCC00 | codecolor=#663333 | code=[[Image:Subtitles Project Logo.png|42px]] | msg=This user is on [[User:Pacoman|Pacoman's]] way cool users list and is being rewarded with a sub.}}
|}

It's not quite right and you don't have to if you dont want to. {{User:Pacoman/sig}} 20:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Saweet... I was getting kinda hungry. Here, have a snack:

{|
{{userbox | border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF69B4|codebkgd=#000000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Congraturation.png|55px]]|msg=This user has received a [[videro games|hearty congraturation]] from '''[[User:Acam30|Acam30]]''' because they are the coolest person ever!}}
|}

:) {{User:Acam30/sig}} 00:22, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

:Um, Acam? I changed my users list box so people wouldn't get it confused with the subtitles project (because of the pic) so my new userbox is under way and will be available at my talk page soon (I hope).Oh and thanks for the userbox {{User:Pacoman/sig}} 03:24, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Here you go!!!

{|
{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=[[Image:Iron cup of Brunswick Stew.jpg|43px]]|msg=This user is on [[User:Pacoman|Pacoman's]] way cool users list and is being rewarded with an iron cup of Brunswick Stew.}}
|}
Thanks to theyellowdart for fixing it for me{{User:Pacoman/sig}} 01:42, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! {{User:Acam30/sig}} 05:04, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Userbox ==

Yeah I was too lazy to start a topic of my own. Sue me.

Here:
{|
{{userbox | border=#93C|mainbkgd=#0CC|codebkgd=#93C|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Thecheatsmoking.png|50px]]|msg=This user is addicted to user boxes.}}
|}

I made this userbox that I find identifies quite well with you also. =.= {{User:Rly2Cheat/sig}} 01:44, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:...All you have to do is click on the plus sign. Frickin' lazy. Thanks for the userbox...lazy. {{User:Acam30/sig}}
::You're welcome. And yes, yes I am. {{User:Rly2Cheat/sig}}

==Your SBCG4AP Question==

SBCG4AP comes out 8/11/08 at 9:00 AM Pacific Time. {{User:Peter222/sig}} 03:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Random Musings (August 10) ==

'''August 10''' 
So is the game coming out at midnight? Or do I have to wait for tomorrow morning?

:A Telltale employee [http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=80210&postcount=286 said this]:
:<blockquote>[...] the U.S. WiiWare release will be at 9:00am Pacific Time on Monday. Barring any unforseen insanity, the PC release should be coming in around the same time.</blockquote>
:PS— I've assumed you're in the US, bad news if you're in Europe... If so... I don't have the heart to tell you, but it's in the link above. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 04:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks... oh poo. I was looking forward to playing it tonight. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 04:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Tick Tock ==

I saw your rendition of the Main Page during it's brief appearance in the Sandbox, (which was awesome by the way), and just wanted to let you know: the game didn't really come out until 9am PST, so you've still got about 11 hours to finish it completely. No pressure. ;-) {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 05:01, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Oh yeah, no pressure at all. <nowiki>*''freaks out and drops everything to find the last TGS card and 2 trophies''*</nowiki>
::By the way, Congratulations! But the ''real'' reason I dropped by was to thank you for helping me find those last two little things. ''Four! Four outrageous trophies! Ah hahaha!'' Thanks for the help! {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 21:26, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
:::No problem. I like helping people when I'm able to. :D {{User:Acam30/sig}} 21:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== My apologies ==
I thought the Sandbox was the Soapbox. I did not intentionally delete (or BALETE) code. My apologies good person! --[[User:O98-111-114-113|O98-111-114-113]] 05:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Haha, it's okay. I found it again anyways so it's all good. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 17:35, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Cool, cool, awesome! --[[User:O98-111-114-113|98.111.114.133]] 17:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==
Thanks for the help with the code...I was wondering how I might fix that, but I didn't get the time yet to find out! --{{User:Blow Up the Ocean/sig}} 03:28, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
:No problem. Glad to help. I just found that out a couple of weeks ago myself. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 03:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== help with high school ==

Hello again. I read on your page that if anyone has high school advice to leave you a message. So I have some for you.

1. If you are one of the people who has trouble picking out their outfits for the next day, always plan what your goin to wear the night before.

2. Get involved with school activities, such as band, choir, drama, ect,etc.

3. Look to your best friends for relief from a tough day. Or vice versa.

4. Never wear skinny jeans on a hot day. Believe me, its get really warm in those pants.

5. Never worry about the drama of high school. You will have fun and learn stuff you never knew.

Hope that helps. =]

-[[User:sonicfirestorm44|Sonicfirestorm44]] 21:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. (Haha, 4 cracked me up!) That helps. I've already joined a couple clubs so I think I have the get involved thing covered. Thanks again! {{User:Acam30/sig}} 12:25, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

:No problem. If you ever need some more help, just leave a message. I'll be glad to help. Btw, the thing about skinny jeans is true.
-[[User:sonicfirestorm44|Sonicfirestorm44]] 17:41, 2 september 2008 (UTC)

::Pwahaha! Acam doesn't really wear skinny jeans... XD But plenty of pink. {{User:Rly2Cheat/sig}} 22:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm just saying. XD -[[User:Sonicfirestorm44|Sonicfirestorm44]] 9:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm glad to see from your userpage edit that you like high school! Study hard (says Heimstern, who's a teacher. :-) ) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:46, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:EEEEUWWW... teacher... hahaha just kidding. What do you teach? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 14:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::English, though not in the US public school system. I'm at a teachers' college overseas teaching it as a second language. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:56, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Have a good time in high school, Acam! It really is fun, and you'll make lots of friends who aren't in your grade. One tip: If you embarrass yourself, don't get too worked up over it (says Brightstar, who's a sophomore and has messed up more times than she can count ^_~). -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 16:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

::::My older sister is a sophomore. She hates it. But then again, she has block scheduleing. - [[User:Sonicfirestorm44|Sonicfirestorm44]] 21:04, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yea I already tripped walking p stairs and fell flat on my butt... then I laughed like a maniac. {{User:Acam30/sig}}
::::::That happened to my friend last year. Except, he fell on his face. -[[User:Sonicfirestorm44|Sonicfirestorm44]] 02:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

== "they're real and they're spectacular" ==

I too watch seinfeld. I'm dangerous, Cammy, i'm very very dangerous! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:37, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
:The best, Deffy, the best! Hmm... "Cammy"... I like the sound of that! (P.S.: The subject heading is appropriately creepy for you.) {{User:Acam30/sig}} 01:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
::Indeed it is... but without any context, it remains, as ever, family-friendly. ;) Yours creepily, {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== sig? ==

how did your sig change on every page you've been on? i thought the old sig stayed on older updates. {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 02:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:Nope. the sigs are templates. they change as the template changes. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

oh. cool

{{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 02:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== where you be's? ==

hey, i've been talking about all types of crap on my talk page, including my recent birthday(10/10), which you missed, unlike cornman. he wished me a happy birthday, so where have you been? i'm 14, too, and i get home from school at 3:00 (EST). what do you do when you get home that cuts into your wiki time? and what time zone are you in? that plays a big part, too. well, i'll just update you on me:

i've made like 4 new friends, which are:

sam the man, i counted him since he came back

optimist fool, helped with my new sig

michaelxx2 (hopefully soon to be Homestar vs yoshi), made me my new sig,
and my new favorite person on the wiki (as in we talk a lot, not as in he's better than you),

and Defender 1031, from what i've read you talk to a lot;

i got a new sig(see above and below);

i saw "the seven" for the second time today, and "the finale" is on the recorded shows list, so i'll see it soon(jist to put in a seinfeld reference);

i found something that m,ay be funnier than H*R '''''AND''''' seinfeld. check out [[User:Homsarstrongbad150#the demented cartoon movie]] to find out what.

that's basically me for the past month. if you're still not on later this month, i'll give you more octber updates on the 2nd of november if i remember.

hope i see you later,
{{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 01:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

:Ha sorry I missed your birthday... HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!
:I'm glad you're enjoying the wiki. Just don't enjoy it too much like some of the guys on here and forget about real life... (kidding, guys, kidding.) Yeah and umm... good luck wiki-ing and stuff? Haha, catch ya later maybe! {{User:Acam30/sig}} 22:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

== Testing my grammar ==

Hey, if you're bored, here's something to try: write a sentence that breaks one grammar rule (try to make it the most obscure grammar rule that you can think of) and put it on this page. We'll see if I can figure out what rule you broke. This should be interesting... xD {{User:Acam30/sig}} 21:46, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
:Hello. I was out in Simsboro with my brother and I, today. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 22:27, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
::Umm... change to "Hello. I was out in Simsboro with my brother today."? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 22:28, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Nice! {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 03:38, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::That wasn't bad grammar, just redundant and repetitive. THIS however, is. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:40, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Erm... are you leaving me a sentence to correct or not? Deffy? WHAT'RE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME??? xD {{User:Acam30/sig}} 04:26, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yes. Yes i was. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:28, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Okay more recently: change to "Yes. Yes I was." As for the first one... hmm. Change to "That wasn't bad grammar, it was just redundant and repetitive."? Probably not. FIne Deffy, you got me. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 04:31, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::"THIS, however, is." and in yours, change to "Fine". :P {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:33, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::"This however, is." "And in yours, change to 'Fine.'" :D {{User:Acam30/sig}} 04:34, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::: *bangs head on desk* {{User:Rly2Cheat/sig}} 23:58, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::: *bangs rly2cheat's head on desk* {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:59, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Well the little star thingie is technically internet slang so... xD. Awful violent today, aren't we Optimistic ol' buddy? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 01:55, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

== Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Acam ==

Hi acam! I'm gonna tell you the same thing I told def. Please don't wait around for me anymore, mkay? My mom busted me for the IRC and grounded me from the computer for two weeks. so... Im sorry! And hi. Also hi. -RPM_1337
:Aww man! That sucks! Oh well... you'll still be me and Deffy's bestest buddy. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 17:22, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::Oh totally sure! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:22, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::way to make me feel loved Def. Yo acam, do you have an msn? -rpm
::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh* No but i have and AIM account. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 21:16, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::No problem, RPM. Anytime mr. creepy can make little girls feel loved... Okay, i'm gonna stop. And i'd advise you to consider whether you think your mom would be okay with msn either. Further, we really shouldn't be using these pages for this socializing. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:17, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::-sigh- just when Mr. Creepy fails to come through. You're probably right def. But why with no socializing? that's what it's for is it not?
::::::Yeah but were kinda filling up recent changes right now... sorry, i have to go anyways. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 21:31, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Not at all. we actually recently had someone blocked because they wouldn't stop, their page got protected, and they went ballistic. In the most strict sense, it's for communicating with other users ABOUT the wiki. We're lax on that, but there IS a line, and using it ALL for socialization is bad. It's not really fair of us to clog RC and fill up wiki server space just so we can talk. That makes sense, right? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:34, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== IRC no worky... ==

<nowiki>*</nowiki>screams bloodcurdling scream*
AHHH!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE IRC!!!??? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 19:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Calm down. And it works for me... {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 20:00, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::if ever chat.hrwiki is not working, go to mibbit.com. (obviously, use IRC rather than yahoo, and channel is #hrwiki.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:00, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Random Musings (Oct 21) ==

Hey, I thought we agreed not to discuss that! Remember? "What happens in the dark alley, stays in the dark alley." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:56, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:Acam, me complace que te guste el español. Sería bueno que te esfuerces por aprenderlo. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
::Bienvenidos a CreepyMan'sDarkAlley.com. ¿Conoces a Miguel? ¡Sí! Somos buenos amigos— {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:::对不起，我看不懂你写的。 {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:37, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Deffy and Opti... (sounds like I'm talking to dogs!) I'm in SPANISH 2, mkay? You completely lost me. And Heim... no comment. (btw checking from school again!) {{User:Acam30/sig}} 15:38, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

== Greeting from... 255! XD==

I'm in Art & Design right now, but we finished what were s'posed to do already so he's like "Yeah, whatever... just surf the web." :D And even better! I'm with Moe! She's having some photoshop issues... To say the least. It's good to be on the wiki again ^_^ Yeah, that's all I got right now. So... Yeah. Boycott the 200th Sbemail! :D Hremails... pfft. {{User:Rly2Cheat/sig}} 14:02, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:Say that around here, and trolls might vandalize your user page. Then again, I thhink the general feeling towards sbemail 200 among users was dissapointment, so nevermind. xD {{User:Acam30/sig}} 19:45, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== how did you...? ==

i saw your post on defender's talk page...how did you make big font? i have absolutly no idea how th do that. ypu succeded in upstaging everyone, though if that was what you were going for. even me, big font beats song lyrics any day. of course, you had no H*R reference. it evens out. oh, well, how do big font? {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 00:35, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
:You can just look at the code for the page- it's <nowiki><big>*insert text here*</big></nowiki>. Yup... have fun with that. xD {{User:Acam30/sig}} 00:52, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

crap. i forgot the source. my "requierd break" threw me off quite a bit.
{{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 00:55, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

== Random Musings (Nov 1) ==

Since i don't intend to actually make a christmas sig (Given that i don't celebrate it for obvious reasons) i'd be fine with setting up a gradient for you similar to the one i have [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=598090 here]. Only if you like it of course. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:42, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
:Here's my suggestion for a Christmas sig for you: http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3899/bloodpoolnm7.png [[User:Acam30|'''Acam30''']] ... a nice, festive blood pool! Yes! {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 22:43, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
::Uh, no. No blood pool. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 00:46, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Thanks Defender. (Opti... no comment.) I was thinking a Red to green font with a picture of The Goblin dressed as a Santam'n. If anyone wanted to do that.... <nowiki>*</nowiki>hint hint<nowiki>*</nowiki> {{User:Acam30/sig}} 02:12, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Like this: '''''— Acam30 [[Image:TheGoblin Santaman.PNG|16px]]''''' (But obviously with a better santam'n pic)? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:25, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yeah but the gradient looks cooler with a longer sig... doesn't it? Hmm maybe alternating colors like the halloween one or something. <nowiki>*</nowiki>eats a cookie<nowiki>*</nowiki>{{User:Acam30/sig}} 02:35, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4450/santagoblinny5.png {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:46, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Ooh me likey the picture! (Despite the fact that ''MY'' Opti has a different font.) {{User:Acam30/sig}} 02:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Your Opti? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Yes, the one I keep locked in the closet. ;) So how do I change the color of the letters? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 02:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Honestly, I think the red-green gradient looks good next to Goblin Santam'n:
:::::::::::'''''— Acam30''''' http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4450/santagoblinny5.png
::::::::::But here's alternating, if you like it better:
:::::::::::'''''— Acam30''''' http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4450/santagoblinny5.png
::::::::::...or...
:::::::::::'''''— Acam30''''' http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4450/santagoblinny5.png
::::::::::I say stick with the gradient, but it's your sig. Or maybe ask DeFender to try some gradients with other color combinations. Meh. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:42, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I DO like the gradient better. Yay! I get to be more like Deffy! xD Umm... I still forget how to make it my sig now. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 16:14, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::Wait.. what!? NOW!? Are you serious? Are you crazy? =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:23, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Yes, I am crazy. You people are just lucky I kept my christmas spirit to myself, otherwise I would've wanted a christmas sig when September started. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 19:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AOptimisticFool&diff=602379&oldid=601778 Yesterday] you wanted your "purty pink" sig back (which you got).. and today you got your Christmas sig.. what would you like tomorrow? =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:56, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::YAYS IT'S PRETTY!!!!!! Thanks you... xD {{User:Acam30/sig}} 20:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== hey, you forgot your userbox ==

hey, cammy. you seen mike's page recently? you won a userbox by being cool. go get it. it's on mike's user page. as stated before.
{{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 04:34, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:Erm I don't see a userbox. Which one? Where? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 16:58, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

oh, i noticed he already picked november's, so your name's not there. check his changes. it should be, like 2 or 3, you won the cool user monthly thing

{{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 02:31, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== your sig ==

you already have a dween sig? it's a bit early don't you think? it's the third of november. supermarkets pull this crap regularly, but i wouldn't expect you to do something a month and 22 days away from a holiday. 3 weeks away doesn't bother me, though. i still think it's early.

thanks <strike>cammy</strike> Acam,
{{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 02:29, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:Well I'm kind of chirstmas crazy... so when it's November, I already consider it the Christmas season. xD
:(*twitches uncontrollably* AAAAAAAAaaaaahh... umm can you put your sig on the same line as your writing? At least on this page? PLEASE? Sorry... I am mildly OCD, so crap like that bothers me.) {{User:Acam30/sig}} 12:06, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== Somebody's bound to find this... ==

Anybody want to switch my sig back to the old one? The pink one? I promise I won't switch it to a different one two days later... xD {{User:Acam30/sig}} 12:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:Gracias to whoever changed it back. Like... a week or two ago. Hah, sorry I have delayed reflexes. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 02:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry I missed you ==

I saw you were on IRC about 3 minutes after you left. I'm sorry i missed you. Come back! ;-) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:06, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
:Wow I haven't been on here in so long... I have to get used to the format again. What's the time difference between us?! I seriously need to figurethat out. ;D {{User:Acam30/sig}} 07:50, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
::You're on central time? I think it's 8 hours... though it'll be 1 hour in a day or so... oh i'm a leavin' on a jet plane... so yeah, i won't be on for the next day or so. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:35, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh oh oh I know this one! You're going to DC! Yesss. *receives stunning prize* {{User:Acam30/sig}} 21:07, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Happy birthday ==

祝你生日快乐！And since you probably can't read that, I'll say "Happy Birthday!" {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:41, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:OMG, You're a year older than you were a few days ago!!!!! (Sorry i missed it, but i was crammed into a flying sardine can with around 200 other people) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:51, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks Heimi :D. (Or Heimy? It's been so long I forgot what I call you!) And aww Deffy! Did you fly a whole 7 hours closer just for my birthday? xD {{User:Acam30/sig}} 11:42, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
:::That must have been it. Nothing to do with my family or anything... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:52, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

== Anyone who missed you ==

I have! I have! I've missed you! Pick me! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 05:18, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Ooh man... i forgot how to indent :\ 
I missed you too Deffy. xD That "goodbye" might actually be the start of me returning to the wiki, but probably not. If it isn't... well... *sniff* BYE DEFFY!!! {{User:Acam30/sig}} 05:21, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
:(indent is a colon) I've missed you too! sorry this wasn't more creative, but before you go, check out the new picture on my user page {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 05:23, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
::But... who will I call "Yaycam" now? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Heimi has missed you, also. Just to set the record straight and all that. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:41, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

== Hey Acam! ==

I'm Jibblejibblejibble!

I make comments on stuff around here and there, and was wondering if you could teach me how and where you can make a sig? if you know how to do it, that would be great! XD! chek my profile out too! ~Jibblejibblejibble!

User talk:Defender1031

Jibblejibblejibble — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:54:45 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* The Brother's Chap's. */

{{User talk:DeFender1031/Archivenav}}
== the next epi-snowed ==

I added that fun fact because it is a little odd that Blue Laser would tell his minion to add something that has already been added, especially since Blue Laser appears to be staring at the list as he says it. I would think this merits some fun fact-ness. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 22:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's been added and removed a couple of times, and is on the [[Talk:The Next Epi-Snowed#Cold cuts easter egg|talk page]] without much response. I personally think that something that obvious isn't notable, that's all. You are right, i should have been a bit descriptive in my summary. (Also thank you, my talk page is no longer lonely.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

== Happy 8600 ==

If the template IS on the page, shouldn't we link to it? Why aren't the TD and iMac onthere, either? {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 14:45, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:This is not the place for this discussion. They are not on there because they are not strong bad's nor has he ever used them to check an email of his... actually, on second thought, he DID use TG once... so perhaps that one should be... i don't know, why not start a thread on the talk page for that template, as in, not here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:46, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== Good user ==
Would I be qualified as a good user? I know I don't do much, but I try to make articles and Images better...
{{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}
:Everybody is a good user! We all do something to help the wiki as long as you're editing, I like to think. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 12:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::Do I qualify? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 02:01, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Of course! :] {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}

{|
{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=[[Image:Iron cup of Brunswick Stew.jpg|43px]]|msg=This user is being rewarded with an iron cup of Brunswick Stew for good contributions and help for this Wiki, and should be on his way to being a sysop.}}
|}
You deserve this. {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 03:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
{|
{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#7EC0EE | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:notlast.png|43px]] | msg=This user has been voted '''[[User:MichaelXX2/m.a.p.|most awesome user of the month]]''' by '''[[User:MichaelXX2|MichaelXX2]]'''. Congratulations!}}
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You deserve ''this.'' You earned it, so hang it on your talk page in honor! {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 16:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

== Sorry ==
Sorry that I was mad at you at the talk page. I hadn't exactly realized what you were doing. Sorry. Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 22:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not a problem. I understood that you were unaware of the proper way to move an article. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Heyyyy... ==

Will you umm... make me a... halloween sig? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 01:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:I can try, but my sig is very simple, just a gradient. All i did was change the colors of it. In truth, i'm pretty bad at sig-making. I would probably temporarily make homsar in orange on a black background and do something with the letters and those colors. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::I can help with the image, if I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here.. (a pink pool of blood, perhaps?) ;) {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm already in the process of uploading... some of the edges are a bit off, but i expect it won't matter in the 20px size anyway. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Ooh okay. Coolio! Opty... for the image I was thinking maybe HOmsar dressed as Slash? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 01:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::In that case, i'll let opty handle the image. (I suggest re-uploading over the existing Image:HomsarInPink.png so that it doesn't use another PI page for Acam, as well as so that that part of the sig doesn't need changing.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:55, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Done. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Perhaps it'd look better if you gave him an orange shirt? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I don't know. Orange and black aren't the only colors that would look Halloweenish. But here's what he looks like at [http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9199/orangeslashfullcd0.png full size] and as part of the sig:
:::::::::— '''''[[User:Acam30|Acam30]]''''' http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7596/orangeslash20pxva7.png
::::::::Acam, your thoughts? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::YAAAAAY!!! Thanks guys! Me likey! {{User:Acam30/sig}} 11:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Do you prefer the blue- or the orange-shirted Homsar-as-Slash? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:02, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Blue is grood. I likes it! {{User:Acam30/sig}} 11:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

== Sysop ==

DeFender, you need to be a sysop. I'm surprised that no one else has made you one yet. You would make an awesome one! {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 11:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:Wait, DeFender's not a sysop?! I'm speechless here, honestly! I agree, he needs to be one! --[[Special:Contributions/70.143.29.193|70.143.29.193]] 02:28, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::Truthfully now, I wouldn't mind him to die in a hole. [[Special:Contributions/70.148.111.10|70.148.111.10]] 19:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Wha... why?! What'd Deffy do this time? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 19:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::::He didn't die. [[Special:Contributions/70.148.111.10|70.148.111.10]] 19:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::I assure you, i'm dead on the inside. Seriously, let's not do this here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Actually, I agree with Acam. He needs to live and live as an admin, now that I think about it... =3[[Special:Contributions/70.148.111.10|70.148.111.10]] 19:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== Your Pic ==
Defender, the [[BMW Lighter|Fire]] in your pic kinda looks like [[The Cheat]] is on [[BMW Lighter|Fire]]... a very crude [[The Cheat]] that is. :P --{{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 16:01, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:To me it looks more like a dinosaur smoking a cigarette... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

== Your sig pic ==

Do you want me to possibly remove the background? Just wondering, I'm bored and have photoshop and need to do something productive. {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 12:40, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:No thanks. I don't feel like wasting a personal image and wiki server space on a one-time holiday sig. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:48, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

== Scripts ==

How do you write scripts? Like to do a gradient comment. Where do I go? What do I do? {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 00:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know what you mean by "comment". But the script i wrote to do gradients is in C++. I've spent nearly 4 years studying programming, which is how i know how to write scripts. I don't know where to tell you to begin. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== B-Day! ==

[[Image:TheBee.PNG|thumb|Bee day!]]
Well, not where I am, but in Israel I guess it is. Here's a card I made you: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJEooaD9hTE http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/Winnuh/Picture4.png?t=1225407008] 
Your pal, {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:53, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
:Well, that's just Danday!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:49, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
::"Congratulations, Daniel on your 2008 Birthday! ...I'm [[User:MichaelXX2|MichaelXX2!]]" "Uh, I think it says that in the sig, Mikey." "Well I didn't know that!" {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 12:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
{{clear}}

aww, crap, someone beat me to it. and mike beat me to it. happy birthday, halloween and dia de los muertos to you, defender. and, as a special treat, and to incluse a homestar reference.......

*ahem*

sweet sweet deffy,

today is the day on your fake ID,

so get upstairs,

uh,

and fix me some Dinner (because it's five here)

now go answer some emails and your birthday gift from me is done

happy Birthday, Dan Foodeater!  {{clear}}
from {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 21:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC) and all of hrwiki (probably)

<big><big><big><big>HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEFFY-PIE!!!!!!!</big></big></big></big>
<center>{{User:Acam30/sig}} 00:28, 1 November 2008 (UTC)</center>

== Quick Question ==

Hey! I just have a quick question. How do you submit fanstuff? I searched it, but I just got a link to a page that didn't do anything. I don't know if you know or not, but I thought it was worth a shot. [[User:Tigerstripe|Tigerstripe]] 21:58, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:I really don't know, having never done so myself. I assume it's as simple as sending a picture of it in an email to TBC, but i really don't know. [[User:Phlip|Phlip]] once got his thing featured, why not try asking him? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::You could always just [[Email]] TBC.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:55, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== irc problem ==

hey, dan. i got disconnected and when i try to go back in, it says my nick is in use and doesn't let me in. any way around this? or do i need to wait? {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 23:43, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
:nevermind. i'm back in {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 23:45, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

== my mentor... ==

I'm probably thinkin' you're my mentor and all. I could nominate you for sysop abilities, but keep up the good work. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:11, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== Redirects ==
Hi [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]], It's [[User:Mas12806|Mas12806]]. I was meaning to ask you, how do you make a redirect? I wasn't exactly comfortable asking an [[HRWiki:Bureaucrats|admin]], and I needed to know how so I could keep the Wiki moving. And your welcome for the Brunswick Stew! Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 02:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:You create a page with the content <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Target Pagename]]</nowiki> {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
I knew that way, but when I tried that, it came out as this instead as a regular redirect:

#REDIRECT [[Homestar Runner]]

And a regular redirect page looks [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar&redirect=no like this]. Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 03:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 03:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:What do you mean by a "regular redirect"? what kind of redirect do you want? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:37, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
::Did you put a space between the "#" and the word "REDIRECT"? That would cause the redirect not to work. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 03:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Note that when you preview a redirect page, that's how it'll look. When you actually submit, the MediaWiki software does its magic, and it turns into a proper redirect page. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 03:49, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Now I understand everything. Thanks [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]], [[User:Homestar-winner|Homestar-winner]], and [[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]]. A new redirect I did: [[The Brothers Chaps Office]]. Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 13:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

==Could you set me up with a Sig?==

[[User:homsarstrongbad150|homsarstrongbad150]] sent me to you if I wanted a sig and colourful username, could you tell me how to do it? [[User:ALJ123456|ALJ123456]]
:You may want to start [[HRWiki:Signature|here]] and [[Help:Signature|here]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
::Hey DeFender, I have a sig but can you blend some colurs together plz? like green and black and whatever else? It would be a big help. thx. also, could you show me how to make it show up whenever i do <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>? At the moment i just paste in the code. zee you nezz tim! [[Image:homsar_evolution_current.png|20px]][[User:Open Source Greg|Open Source Greg]][[Image:Open_Source_Greg.png|20px]]([[User talk:Open Source Greg|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Open Source Greg|edits]]) 
:::I kind of need you to be a bit more specific about what you want. And as for making it work with the tildes, go to your preferences, set your signature to be "<nowiki>{{User:Open Source Greg/sig}}</nowiki>", and make sure the "Raw signatures (without automatic link)" box is checked, and then save. That should do it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:02, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
::::wow, thx. I guess my sig is good enough. [[User:Open Source Greg|Open Source Greg]] 00:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Would you suggest changing my sig at holidays, or my birthday? {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 00:54, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::I like to. But it's totally up to you. If you're like me, you'll just bug smart peoples like Deffy here to make you one whenever a holiday rolls around. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 03:30, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::And if you're REALLY smart, and your name is Acam30, you go online while you're editing to say hi every so often... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Actually, Acam30, I wasn't suggesting he make me one for holidays/birthdays, I was asking if it was a good idea to change it for holidays/birthdays. Also, could anyone tell me how to blend colours together in your sig? Thanks. {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 04:06, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The color blend thing is a script i wrote that is currently available only to me, that i intend to re-write at some point to make it web-based so that anyone can have access to it. At the moment, you need to tell me exactly what colors you want and what the text should be, and i can do it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Basically, I just want to have one color blend for the whole year, and change the pictures to match that time of year. The color blend I want is dark green --> light green --> white/light grey. Do you think you could help me? {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 10:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Also, I want a thicker font. {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 10:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC) Sorry if this is too much, but I feel [[Bogus Mathematical Theorems|the better the sig, the better the user]]
::::::::::::Never mind the font, I figured that out :) {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 10:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Do you think you could help me with the color blend by the 8th of april? because that's my birthday? {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 09:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

== "then why did you delete this too?" ==

If you really want to know, it's because I'm using the Wii to edit again. (my Lappy's battery doesn't charge) {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 02:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

== DVD transcripts ==
I did the commentary transcripts for [[coloring]] and [[trading cards]], but they probably weren't completely accurate. Can you take a look at them both, please, and fix them both if you can? Thanks. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 00:50, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:What makes you think that i have the DVDs? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::I've seen your scripting for the [[keep cool]], which is on the same DVD as the two emails I did, so I figured you might be able to help. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 01:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Whoops. My mistake, it was The Pizz who had done the [[keep cool]] email. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 01:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Sandbox problems ==
I checked the sandbox it it was all weird. there were blue boxes and black boxes covering everything. Can you try to change it back?[[User:Luis123|Luis123]]Luis123[[User:Luis123|Luis123]] 02:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== Apparently I'm Not Helping ==
I have recently been charged with not helping when I post on the wiki.

Where I come from, teaching people to learn the meanings of phrases before they use them IS contributing - To society and education.
Where I'm from, education is paramount and stops you becoming a retarded txt speaker and McDonalds employee. {{unsigned|85.210.103.185}}
:Anonny, your edits were not constructive but disruptive. Your tone was confrontational, and your edits belonged on the talk page, not on the actual article. If you have any criticism on what should be in articles and what should not be, then please use the talk page to voice your concerns. In a civilised manner. Thank you.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== user boxs ==

you used when you discovered hrwiki twice
:Thanks, but it's not. One is when i discovered the site itself, the other is when i discovered this wiki. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::I was wondering about that, thanks for the tip on my user page. [[User: Platinum789hi|Platinum789hi]]

== Pi revert ==
{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Pi&diff=prev&oldid=623102 concerning this edit}} 
Can you please give me a reason why you think it is not a stretch? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:They picked those numbers and dates. They have been known to stick in references to pi in subtle places. It stands to reason that they purposely picked these to reflect pi. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

== Why come ==

okay, sorry, I didn't know about that page.
:nothing to apologize for. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::oh. well then i guess i made ur bottom ten

== Bottom 10 ==

I saw your bottom 10 and I am sorry. --{{User:Blow Up the Ocean/sig}} 21:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:Hahahahaha, it took me a second, i was about to write "for what?" when i realized.... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::I was going to write your opinions are total crap, but I thought that wouldn't be nice. --{{User:Blow Up the Ocean/sig}} 21:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:::That is correct. That wouldn't be nice... But since you didn't actually say it, it makes it totally fine to say that you WOULD HAVE said it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:46, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==
Hey man! Thanks for fixing my page along with [[User:It's Dot Com|It's Dot Com]]. I've been trying to do that ever since I signed up! With Lots of Crap, [[User:Record307|Record307]] 01:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:Any time bro, glad i could help. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

== Talkheader ==

Hey, I've created a new template at [[Template:Talkheader]]. I was wondering if you were any good at Wiki code, because I'm having three issues with it. Once the box is finished, I'd like to customize it to the Homestar Runner Wiki. Also, if this is redundant, let me know. [[User:Son|Son]] 16:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Hey there, i'm actually curious what all these templates you're creating are for. We tend not to create templates without extensive discussion. I get the talkheader one, but not the others. (Also, there's better ways to put headers on all pages of a namespace than templates, and such a thing is best left up to the site developers.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks for tagging those. I wholesale copied the Talkheader template from Wikipedia. In the process, it had these other templates layered in it. In my tired idiocracy, I tried to build those as well. It was becoming hopelessly complicated. At that point, I at least moved them into my userspace, though it's probably a lot simpler to just delete those in the first place. I thought that perhaps a talkheader would be a nice improvement to the site. I probably should have put in a request some where. If that's the case, I'll keep that in mind for the future. [[User:Son|Son]] 16:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Well, i can tag the remaining ones in your user space for deletion if you want. As for the talk page header, we already have something sort of like it, {{tl|talk}}. It might be worth expanding and seeing if the devs want to have mediawiki automatically add it to the top of every talk page. I certainly would support the idea, your template makes it very clear what talk pages are for, and it might be good to have a short list of talk page rules there. I think i'll bring it up with the devs and get back to you on it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that sounds good. I appreciate your help! [[User:Son|Son]] 16:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Anytime. And let me officially welcome you to the wiki. I notice you joined over a year ago, but didn't do much at the time and never got properly welcomed.
::::::Thank you! I appreciate your welcome to the Wiki! [[User:Son|Son]] 17:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== tt ==

I looked up what < tt > means...
From [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TT#Computing_and_electronics Wikipedia]:
An HTML element for teletype or a monospace font family, e.g. <tt>monospace</tt>.
I'm guessing it's something that standardizes fonts if people use different skins in their preferences.

Hope this was of interest to you. It was to me when I saw you wondered (what I'm sure was probably more rhetorical than less...), so I looked it up. Thought I'd spread the word!
[[User:Son|Son]] 18:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks. It was unnecessary where it was anyway, also i think that these days it's been obsoleted in favor of more standardized css. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:56, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Pictures ==
Hey dude, one question. You wouldn't mind if you could send me pages that need images, I'll be happy to supply one! I mean you don't have to do it every day but, just tell me pages that are in DIRE need of images. Asking for a favor, [[User:Record307|Record307]] 23:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Actually, you can see that yourself if you visit the [[:Category:Articles Needing Images|Articles Needing Images category]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== OMG! ==
DUDE YOU ARE A SAVIOR! THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH. I FINALLY HAVE A SIG! Just one question...
How to I use my sig?--{{User:Record307/sig}} 01:15, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:Look in your [[Special:Preferences|preferences]] under "signature", and paste <nowiki>{{User:Record307/sig}}</nowiki> into the box. Make sure to check the little box for a raw signature. Cheers, {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 01:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::Did you follow my link at all? {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 01:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah see {{User:Record307/sig}} 01:14, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Awesome, man. Just, awesome. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 01:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Side note to this...is it acceptable to use a signature icon of someone's who hasn't been active on the site in over a year? [[User:Son|Son]] 05:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 05:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::I saw a user who's been inactive since November 2007 (methinks) with a Steal Your Face. I left a note on the user's talk page, so you can check in my recent contributions to see it. I'd like to use it, if that's considered kosher. [[User:Son|Son]] 05:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== Cricket Helmet ==
Hi, I dunno if you saw it, but I was hoping you could clarify your answer on the image talk page. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.94|132.183.151.94]] 15:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== The recent block warning ==

I can't tell any change between the post you did and the way MichaelXX2 "fixed" it for you. Can you explain the difference, just for the sake of someone unfamiliar with wiki syntax? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.140|132.183.140.140]] 23:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:Sure. when putting "subst:" before a template, it will replace, or SUBSTitute, the template call for the actual code contained therein. For example, if i have a template named "example" that contains "This is a sample template", if i were to write "<nowiki>{{example}}</nowiki>" somewhere, then when i go to edit the page, it'll still say "<nowiki>{{example}}</nowiki>" in that spot on the edit page. If i wrote "<nowiki>{{subst:example}}</nowiki>" instead, it would instead have "This is a sample template" written. Outwardly, the pages would look identical, only in the code does it matter. I hope that answers your question, cause i don't know how to make it any clearer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::That was clear, thanks a lot. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.140|132.183.140.140]] 23:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:::What I don't get is why you reverted it, considering that [[:Template:blockwarning|using "subst" is Wiki policy.]] --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Feel free to ask me privately. And i don't consider that instruction sheet to be "policy". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, reverting it myself was my mistake. Looking back on it, you're not supposed to edit people's talk page posts unless they're breaking the page, contain foul language, or similar. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thank youuu ==

I saw that crappy and unfunny vandalism that somebody did on a certain page. Thanx for reverting it. THAT was just an eyesore. If somebody's gonna vandalize the least they can do is make irt clever and funny. --[[User:Sonicstar Runner|Sonicstar Runner]] 23:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:That's my job, defending the wiki, defending the policies of the wiki, defending my friends, defending my family, defending good programming practices... But i guess now i'm just rambling... Sooo.... yeah. '''Vandals:''' 0 '''''[[User:DeFender1031|DeFender]]'':'' [[User:DeFender1031|1031]]''''' 23:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== kinda funny... ==

Do the proximity of [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peeing&curid=31657&diff=628896&oldid=628891 these] [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fourth_Wall_Breaks&curid=3841&diff=628898&oldid=628875 three] [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Peeing&diff=next&oldid=628747 edits] seem a little ironic to you..? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.187|132.183.151.187]]
:I'm unsure of the connection you're trying to make... and by "unsure" i really mean "no freaking clue". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:36, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::Just that you accused the edit summary of "No" of being vague. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 02:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::You are correct of course, i'm guilty of it too. I wasn't complaining about the summary per se, i was just asking for a clarification. Everyone makes vague summaries sometimes... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Different opinion ==
Yeah, so I thought I made a valuable contribution to the Homestar email toon article, I even went through the legwork of doing the necessary research to make everything authentic. Boy was I cheesed off to see it deleted within seconds! It took me a few days to do the trackdown, and it pointed to you. I was REALLY cheesed off until I went to your home page, and then I saw why you deleted said additions. I thought my contributions were significant. Heck, I never write ANYTHING online without first considering if it will be worthwhile or just internet poop, whether this note be a Facebook note or a blog. But after reading your page on what you think good content is, especially regarding pop culture references, I understood why you removed them. Yes, I will stand by my post. I still think it was important information. But I've had limited exposure to pop culture as a whole, so it's likely that the information I supplied could be found in a hundred places. And you feel that a reference to a concept (a reference that can come from a dozen sources) is unnecessary to mention. I agree. It just hurt to see my first post wiped out in seconds. --[[User:Bauerman24|Bauerman24]] 04:18, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not entirely sure what edit you're referring to, as you seem to have not made any edits with your account before this one, but i assure you that i meant no offense by reverting. For a long time I've said that we need a mechanism to revert edits while still letting people know that their contributions are welcome, but unfortunately such a thing would be tedious and annoying to do, as we often get anonymous users who make one-time edits that aren't worth keeping. But anyway, would you mind clarifying to which edit you are referring? Whatever it is, i'd be glad to discuss it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I did the edit before I had a real account, so I just showed up as an IP [I KNEW you were going to look! haha]. The address WAS [[97.89.178.220]]. Probably the last one, but I don't know how to link to the history page or anything. I'm still new to this whole "edit-a-wiki" thing.

Like I said, I read why you remove posts like mine [even though I didn't know I was referring to common phenomena at the time]. I can't stand wasteful or poorly-written posts. I've edited a fair share of run-on sentence posts. So, thank you for keeping your wiki cleaned up and informative. These things can get bloated with junk fast.

Thanks for being understanding about it. I don't expect to see my work back up. In fact, I'd prefer it stay down, in the interest of an accurate, more concise wiki. Again, thanks for understanding and reading my concerns. I only hope that I can contribute some useful information to this wiki in the future. --[[User:Bauerman24|Bauerman24]] 04:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

== strong sad ==

Make a Strong Sad fanstuffy thing! "Each day we die a little more" is awesome! --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously]] 05:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:I sorta got to a point in my life where i actually HAVE a life, so i haven't done any of those for a while... I had nearly forgotten about them actually. At one point i was planning on doing some of my favorite extended monologues and quotes with them, but unfortunately, life intruded. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

== Signature ==

How did you get your signature to be that cool? --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously]] 15:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:He's awesome like that.-{{User:Record307/sig}} 16:35, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
::Which aspect specifically? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:57, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I want the gradient affect like in your siggy. --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously!]] [[User talk:Fangoriously|Chat]] 19:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I have a script that i wrote that does it. If you tell me the colors you want and what text to use, i can generate a code for you. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:21, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I want pink to purple, with the text "Fangoriously!" My talk page link ("Chat") can just be red. --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously!]] [[User talk:Fangoriously|Chat]] 00:39, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::You used a script? Dang, I had to go Google and search for all the HTML color codes individually... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 00:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::For Fangoriously: How's this? Fangoriously! (Chat) Personally i think the pink is too light at the beginning, so here it is again starting with dark pink. Fangoriously! (Chat) Which do you like better?
::::::For Guard Duck: I WROTE a script. Slightly different than merely using one. I am just THAT good. Seriously though, color codes aren't that hard to learn. Also, don't feel so bad. I did all the color calculations BY HAND for the first attempt at my sig, until i realized how helpful a script would be. I should really re-write it though, because though the code works and works perfectly, it's very messy code. Ideally, i should port it to javascript or something to make it available online. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:57, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::You WROTE a script, well that's very impressive. Kudos to you for always being one step ahead. (Incredibly weak Homestar pun alert) {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 01:13, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Can you write me a sig? I'll ''try'' to give you an award for it![[User:Espemon333|-Espe Pwnage]] 21:31, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

== Behind the black ==

You say what happens behind the black stays behind the black. In Flash file world, which is where the toons really are, what happens "behind the black" that you see in the Flash file but not on the HTML page is really in the beautiful field of white. --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 00:09, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::I'm trying to say the toons are really only Flash files, and what you see in the Flash file but not on the HTML page is in the white, not behind the black. --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 13:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Cute, but homestar says differently in [[flashback]]. But whatever you want to call it, the rule on the wiki is that we don't note "goofs" that are outside the frame and therefore don't appear in the html file, whatever you want to call it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:57, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Think of this another way. All the articles are written from the perspective of the html file, not the flash file. If something odd occurs "behind the black", it will not be visible when the html file is viewed and is therefore not a goof. Simply put, there's no reason whatsoever for the TBC to animate things that won't be seen in the html file anyway. So to avoid creating extra pointless work for themselves, they take shortcuts, like not bothering to put Strong Mad's mouth or Strong Bad's legs in. They are deliberate ommisions, not goofs, which is why we don't mention them unless they are ''very'' unusual. Also, you're not supposed to be watching the flash file anyway. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:44, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I am still wondering why they put in a RED MARK during Theme Song Video's Flash file at the pool scene. --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 21:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Regardless of the reason why there happens to red mark offscreen, it is still nonetheless too mundane to be worth mentioning in the article. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

== No Longer Useful Images ==

Is it OK if I go through [[Special:Unusedimages|Unused Images]] and add not useful images to [[User:DeFender1031/ISC/No Longer Useful]] for you? I'll even try to update templates used on the images themselves and on the lists linked from [[User:DeFender1031/ISC]]. Although [[User talk:The Chort/Archive#Abandoning other users.27 images|I was once told]] by It's Dot Com that "we don't delete images simply because they're not being used", but this just seems like being lazy to me. I mean, if they're never going used ever again, what's the point in keeping them? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:Well, that's exactly the point of that page... i was gonna wait till it was fuller before calling too much attention to it. Anyway, the point is to put images that are unused AND in no way homestar-related, not just unused as those could have a concievable use in the future. I wouldn't mind you adding images such as those there, just please keep them in alphabetical order. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:32, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
::You're marking things as done when they are still missing headers and stuff... The point of this project is to clean up the summaries of image pages, not to get rid of abandoned personal images, that's the side point. Changing personal images to abandoned personal images is not part of this project at all. To clarify, I don't mind pages that have not been cleaned up and given good summaries and headers being put on the no longer useful page, i ''DO'' mind pages that have not been cleaned up and given good summaries and headers being marked as done. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:47, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Yikes, I've really screwed up this time. Ok, maybe I should just stick to compiling the list of No Longer Useful Images and leave everything else alone? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 14:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
::::It's alright, no biggie. If you want to cleanup the pages as you go on, that's fine with me, just make sure you're actually doing it. This was actually helpful, as it showed me that i wasn't descriptive enough when talking about what this project entails. I'm gonna add a checklist to the page that should help. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:09, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::I've just remembered, this wiki already has a list of abandoned personal images that probably have no use whatsoever to the wiki. [[:Category:Personal images abandoned|This page]] does pretty much exactly the same thing as No Longer Useful, except it shows you the images themselves and works automatically thanks to the personal-image-abandoned template. Would it be easier just to use that page? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 14:16, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'm aware of that page, however my page is slightly different. While there is much overlap, not all abandoned personal images are no longer useful (some could be screenshots from HR, which we should keep) and not all no longer useful images are abandoned personal images (such as if something similar to [[:Image:bat-climb.jpg]] were left over somewhere). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== 2AnswerYourMAM? ==

I did it because obviously SB likes to prank call Marzipan so putting in a Subsection would be better so you can actually see when he was Prank Calling and when he was doing something else on the Machine. [[User:Meaty85203|Meaty85203]] 02:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC) The Same Person who made the sublist edit ):

== Spamer ==
DeFender, I think we have a spamming user in this wiki, I tried starting a talk page of [[Sbemailiarized!]] wondering if it was a promo for 2009's batch of Sbemails and Hremails, but some guy whose user idenity was not shown said that it was a compent about sbemails and that there would be no more hremails, and it got the page deleted. [[User:MICGAGUH]]

== Plz ==

i'm want do good edits stop of undo my edits becouse is so dumb undo my edits [[User:Lucsar|Lucsar]] 20:02, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry, the way things work here is community consensus. you can't just make edits that you feel are right and expect them not to be reverted when the community has already decided on something. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

== Request ==
Hey Def. Can you make me a sig...i have no idea how to do it, and ive seen some of your work. I really "appreceat" it. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 15:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
:Well, I'm afraid that in the vast sea of sig possibilities, there are many sig fishes... you need to be a bit more descriptive as to what kind of sig you want... what colors? fonts? pictures? power doors? rear deck for dinner and dancing? a proboscis? Let me know and i'll see what i can do. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
::Well im kinda partial to the color green. So anything other than Baby puke. If you have the Doom [[Font]] (Which you can get in the fonts menu) thatd be good. And i guess the pixalated [[Stinkoman]] from [[Stinkoman 20X6]] would be cool. If your allowed animated stuff for the sig then i guess a running stinko would be kool. Thanks for helpin out. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 18:50, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

== "'I Say it Looks Bad' Won't Help Resolve This" ==

The reason I think that is that one can easily argue against it by saying, "I say it looks good" and most of the time I have no idea whose opinion is more valid, especially since neither of us is a sysop. I won't be surprised or ashamed if writing this has no affect on how you argue. I just had to explain [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad%27s_Cool_Game_for_Attractive_People&diff=prev&oldid=644082 this summary] in a place where it would fit. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 21:14, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

== Regarding "How talk pages work" ==

Um, if no one's allowed to remove incorrect information, you should tell that to IDC [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:FAQ&diff=637045&oldid=637004]. -[[Special:Contributions/170.223.0.55|170.223.0.55]] 22:30, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:That talk page is a special case. Its purpose is not for the discussion of the corresponding project page or of any article, but is a help desk. Anyone replying to a question on that page is in a sense taking it upon themselves to speak for the wiki, and there are ways to do that and ways not to. In the case you cite, the reply was not only patently false but rude to boot. Rather than strike out or simply contradict the incorrect response, it was better just to remove it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::I see. -[[Special:Contributions/170.223.0.54|170.223.0.54]] 23:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Speaking to {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Where_U_Goin%27_2%3F&diff=prev&oldid=645429 the issue we're actually talking about}}, our guidelines state that one should "not remove posts from a talk page unless ... there is a clear, compelling reason the post must be removed." Trying to avoid confusion by removing something you yourself said in error is probably okay, if it's caught fast enough (and I think eight minutes is fast enough). On the other hand, the comments are benign enough that it's also probably okay for your comment and DeFender's reply to stand as they are (with nothing being struck out). I think it was unnecessary for him to revert you once you had removed it, but now that it's back it doesn't need to be removed a second time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:14, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry 2 ==

The "did you even check" wasn't aimed at you. I was attempting to revert with an edit and, for whatever reason, it didn't give me an edit conflict when you did the same. Sorry 'bout that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Oh... heh... i thought the summary looked out of place... No harm done. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== Accidentally made a page ==
can you delete http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Cheat_Commandos_2_Part_Episode:_Part_2 ? i made it without realising there arleady was a page.

== Strong Bad and The King of Town's Relationship ==

In your edit summary, you said, "yeah, we tend to specifically NOT bypass redirects with pipes for several reasons." What does this mean? like, what is a pipe? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 00:16, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
:"|" is a pipe. in wiki terms "pipe" is short for "piped link". a piped link is a link in the form "<nowiki>[[link|link text]]</nowiki>". We generally prefer linking to redirects where they exist over piping to avoid them for a variety of reasons. Hope that helps. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:25, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
::that makes sense, but i still don't know any of the reasons haha. i mean, i can think of one: in case a page is fairly long, doing that would help somewhat with the byte count, but that's the only thing i can think of. i hate to make you try to tell me a long list, but maybe a few others? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 00:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Byte count shmyte count... roughly 50,000+12=roughly 50,000. That's not the issue. There was a [[HRWiki talk:Standards#(Don't Fear) The Redirect|discussion]] on it some time back. The biggest reason is if there's a link to something that redirects to a section on a larger page, but could be made its own page eventually, the link wouldn't need to be changed, the redirect would just be made into a full page and viola, now your page links where it's supposed to. (That doesn't really apply to "X" vs. "The X" but meh.) Other reasons include that it looks better in the page source without the pipe, and that if people click on a link to one thing, it makes sense to have a little notice at the top saying why they got another. (Also doesn't REALLY apply in the case of "X" vs. "The X", but i'm a stickler for consistency.) That said, it probably doesn't matter SO much in this case, and wasn't really worth the extra couple of edits either way, but like i said, i like consistency. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
::::haha okay that works. what i was thinking was if you had several on the same page, that would end up multiplying. Those make more sense; thanks. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 01:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
==Main Page 24==
Did you see my edit summary? i was running out of room, so [[other days|i had to abbreve everything]]. it should have said: "yes i saw that afterwards and decided not to revert myself b/c the remark seems to suggest otherwise as it is. the explanation is thorough, but since there's only one shirt subject tbc didn't invent, and because the remark suggests the shirts would be clear, i think it should be in both places." i know we typically don't put information in two different places on the same page, and i could understand if there was just the one asterisk instead of two, but as it stands, the remark suggests that everything is unblurred when that is just not the case. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:From the "Button Effects" section:
:*'''[[Store]]''' — Glasses are placed on the viewer, allowing for better vision. Homestar's shirts are still blurred.
:Hence, there is no reason to add it to the remark. Further, the remark says you can watch the OTHER animations unblurred. It does not imply in any way that the shirt will be unblurred, especially when the button effect says explicitly otherwise. Lastly, this type of thing goes better on the talk page of the article in question, rather than a user talk. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::(1)I am officially blind for (a)not seeing that you said that (b)not seeing that it was in button effects. (2)ok i see your point now (3)i just figured you would see it faster on your talk page than on the page's talk page. and since you reverted me twice, i decided to ask you instead of anybody. i haven't been reverted this much (not just this; it's happened a lot lately) since before i created an account. maybe i need a [[vacation]]. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:32, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:::That's all perfectly alright. No hard feelings. :) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:42, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

== Recent Changes Patrol Talk ==
Hi DeFender:
I see you edited my question on recent changes talk page. I specifically said in the summary that no one should replace the question because I saw seven other people saying and asking the same thing. I just wanted to save some space. Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 18:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's fine. Proper procedure is still to make a new section for new questions, and not to remove old ones. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:14, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pipe Nazi ==

hey i saw that u called urself this on the standards page i just thot i woud tell u that that phrase may be offensive to jews so maybe u should not use it as much anyway have a nice day
:Maybe you should check out his user page. There are plenty of hints for what I'm getting at, but I'd say the second userbox is the best one. (Edit: It's actually been pointed out to me that there's an even better one.) Just a thought. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Template help ==

I decided, since I'm in a little bit of a template issue, that I may as well take you up on your offer. After all, you've [[User:DeFender1031/sig|obviously]] shown us that you are an expert with MediaWiki markup and especially ParserFunctions. I'm trying to import a [[Wikipedia:Template:User wiki lang-2| MediaWiki language userbox]] (how ironic), and I'm trying to make the font size the same (11pt). However, using a <code><nowiki></nowiki></code> element in the <code>code</code> parameter to down the font size didn't work. There is no pipe in the parameter, and I even entity'd the curly brackets (the user box code is "<nowiki>{{Wiki}}</nowiki>"). Is it the equals sign for the style attribute? Will I need to work out some ParserFunctions in the [[Template:userbox|userbox]] template as to fix the problem and specify a font size? Or am I just missing/forgetting something?

Here's my code: 
<code><nowiki>
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|{{Wiki}}]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
</nowiki></code> {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 17:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
{|
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|{{Wiki}}]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
|}
Your code looks fine to me. Is there some problem i'm missing? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:The left side of the original userbox is in 11pt font. On my side it doesn't appear to be in that font size. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 22:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
{|
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|{{Wiki}}]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|{{Wiki}}]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|{{Wiki}}]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
|}
::This is the same userbox with the font in 11, 20, and 50, respectively. Seem like it's working right. Perhaps you want to pick a smaller font size than 11? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I just realized the font size is actually 9pts. Oops. And, also, bolding the text...
{|
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code='''<nowiki>{{Wiki}}</nowiki>'''|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
|}
:::That still doesn't look right. I think I'll mess around with this in the sandbox after taking a look at Wikipedia's userbox template and ours, and come back from eating some pizza. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:21, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Aside from the link on "intermediate" and the bold and link on "MediaWiki", it looks exactly the same to me. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah. I think I'll just leave it alone for now and go with what I have (though you can barely read it, since I wanted it to fit in 45 pixels!). I have another question. I would like to put a ParserFunction into my signature that'll get rid of the link to my talk page if someone's on my talk pages (well, what will become pages in 2010). Similar to your signature and how "Talk" is replaced by "Me". This is the code I'm trying:

<code>
<nowiki>
{{#ifexpr: {{BASEPAGENAME}}="SoiledBargains" and {{ns:User talk}}||[[User talk:Soiled Bargains|talk]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>}}
</nowiki>
</code>

I'm getting the error, '''Expression error: Unrecognised word "soiled"'''. And I'm not too sure if I'm using the right magic word for this. What advice do you have? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 16:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's cause you want <nowiki>{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|User talk:Soiled Bargains|[[User talk:Soiled Bargains|talk]]|}}</nowiki> {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
::But, that's the thing. I'd like for it to (if possible) effect any talk archives that I will have as well. Would it be best just to make it a <code><nowiki>{{#switch}}</nowiki></code> ParserFunction? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 20:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Probably a series of ifeqs and ands in an ifexpr. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:53, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

== Help!!!!!!! ==

Can you help me with a custom sig? [[User:Espemon333|-Espe Pwnage]] 01:49, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:Sure. What do you want it to look like? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:09, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
::Like yours, only orange to white. With H-h-h-homsar on each sidefacing the words, if possible. Am I asking too much? [[User:Espemon333|-Espe Pwnage]] 02:42, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:::So... like this?
:::[[File:homsar evolution current.png|13px|Espe Pwnage!]][[User:Espemon333|'''Espemon333''']][[File:homsar evolution current.png|13px|Espe Pwnage!]]
:::{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:06, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
::::AIEE!!!!! YES!!!!!!! THANKS YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!! {{unsigned|Espemon333|15:55, 21 August 2009}}
:::::How do I use it? Like, use it when I use the wonkijog's? (~) -Espemon333
::::::In your preferences, for "signature" put <nowiki>{{User:Espemon333/sig}}</nowiki> and make sure "Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)" is checked. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:45, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, hey. Do you know how to get, like, sigs for diffrent holidays? {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 01:13, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

==[[User:Starteen|Starteen]]==
Hello, I think the problem with customizing my sig is because I come from a wiki hosted by Wikia and it's a bit different there with the whole sig thing.--[[User:Starteen|Starteen]] 23:53, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's alright. Seems like you have it mostly working now. It looks good. See ya around the wiki. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

==A bit of help==

Hey, could you help me figure out the IRC channels? I've gotten as far as actually logging on but after that... i'm just... stuck. -{{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 00:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:Hey, me too! {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 01:10, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::To MMM, I see you joined the channel and left it a couple of times earlier... looks like you were there and no one was talking. Once you get to the channel, you can like... type stuff... and then hit enter... and then other people will see it and if they're around, they might type back... but if they don't type back immediately, don't get impatient and leave because then people will see it a few minutes later and think "wow, that guy was impatient". So yeah... that's all i can tell you unless you have a more specific question. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Invisicble ==

Why is it policy to make the sic's inviso? Isn't it useful for the reader to be able to see 'em? (Not disputing it, just asking in general) -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.122|132.183.151.122]] 19:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not sure it's POLICY, but it's what we generally do in transcripts and direct representations of content, as it's less intrusive if it's invisible in those places. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:15, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::Not meaning to come down one way or the other on this matter myself, but I do want to note there was a fairly lengthy debate on this very matter a few years ago in the [[HRWiki talk:Manual of Style#Sic|talk page to the Manual of Style]]. While it doesn't seem clear that any consensus was really arrived at, the wording in the [[HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling|Manual of Style]], as it currently stands, seems to suggest visibility (at least, it does recommend adding the "[''sic'']", and doesn't say anything about making it invisible). Maybe this is a matter that ought to be reopened? (Or not...) —[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 19:41, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Consensus or not, policy or not, invisible or not, my talk page isn't the place to have this discussion anyway. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:16, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Sorry. Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what do you suggest I should have done? I'm not the one who started the discussion, but I thought it was worth pursuing... but I see your point that this wasn't the place for it. Would it have been better had I brought the discussion to the [[Talk:dictionary|dictionary Talk page]], since that's presumably the article the original poster was referring to? Or should I have just stayed out of it entirely? Again, sorry if this is a stupid question--I'm not trying to be ironic or intentionally obtuse; I really don't have that much wiki editing experience, and I'm honestly wondering what the more appropriate course of action would have been here.—[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 20:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ah, i see you misunderstood. Asking me about the edit here on my talk page was fine. Continuing the discussion and bringing the extra background information and topic history is also fine. Suggesting that this discussion be revitalized is fine too. In fact, there was nothing that was not fine. All i meant was that if we do reopen the matter, this isn't the place for it. It should be done on a more public talk page, like standards or manual of style, either of which would be fine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:30, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Picking up the old discussion at the link above is probably appropriate. Nothing's really changed since then to make the previous discussion obsolete. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ah, OK, thanks; yeah, I did misunderstand. And apparently I was unclear with what I wrote, since I didn't mean I thought the discussion would be reopened ''here''—I figured if it was going to be reopened, it would be on the Manual of Style talk page where it had been before, but perhaps I should have been more explicit about that.—[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 20:48, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Bandwith Issue? ==

Why is it that your user page always slows my computer down? {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 01:39, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
:Probably the super-awesome ascii art. That's a lot of information in a very small visual area... I know any time i scroll by it, it slows down for me as well. It's possible that your browser renders the entire page at once rather than just the section you're viewing, in which case, you probably have the whole page loaded, but it hasn't become visible yet, as the ascii-art takes a while to process given its complexity. Unless it's affecting other programs, don't worry too much about it. If it IS affecting other programs, please let me know, so i can remove it. (Cool though it may be, if it's causing people problems, then it shouldn't be there.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:58, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
::Well it only messes up Internet Explorer, so you're good! I just try to avoid the page so it donen't shut down my Internet. Ironically I can open [[User:Benol|Benol's page]] without a problem! Youknowwhotw0n32t2
:::His ascii art is black and white. Mine is varying color, and nearly each character has its own color codes. Far more data. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:00, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Ah. {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 00:14, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Wait a second... YOU LIE!!! I see no ASCII art! {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 23:19, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::[[User:DeFender1031#What I would look like as a video game|really?]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:11, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, um, well, about that... imakickyouto! {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 00:23, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::::It doesn't work for me either. It only did once.... When i pull it up, I looks like its ''trying'' to go, like I get the first 3(?) lines of it, but on the right of it it looks like the quadratic formula exploded. There's wierd + signs just thrown in randomly. It also has a partialy obscured "w" at the end of it. The whole thing is there when I hit edit to check and see if you just took it down. I don't know if it's just my browser or what... it's wierd... {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 02:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Well I can open it on another page with that on there... {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 23:48, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

==I meant to mispell, "Humestar"==

Humestar looks stupid. Now Humstar, THAT looks nice. [[User:TheHumstarRonner|TheHumstarRonner]] 01:53, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

== Happy Yom Huledet! ==
[[File:50cake.PNG|thumb|175px|I brought you a cake!]]
So, are you, like, 40 now? {{User:Elcool/sig}} 16:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:I'm gonna guess that Yom Huledet is Hebrew for "birthday" Happy <s>T!</s> Birhtday! {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 17:01, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::Happy Birfday Fendam'n. May you be a sysops in the near future.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 01:34, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Thanks, though by now i'll be accepting baleeted birthday wishes, as my birthday actually coincides with halloween. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:38, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
::::i apologize for being too busy on saturday to do any wiki editing. happy belated birthday sir {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Happy birthday, DeFender! Keep on tranglin'! {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 03:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

== And some what ==
[[File:pumpkin.PNG|thumb|Ding!]]
[http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Spoons&curid=39265&diff=684289&oldid=684287 Touche]. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.33|132.183.138.33]] 20:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:You get a good prize. Ding! {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

== Horrible Painting edits ==

Sorry, I shouldn't have gone about changing things without fully examining the situation. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.213|132.183.151.213]] 01:02, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
:Not a problem. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:05, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

== Sig color change ==
Do you mind changing the color of my sig to decemberween colors please?--{{User:Record307/sig}} 21:56, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

== Name Help ==

Can you tell me how to change my name? I want a sig, but, "TheHumstarRonner," makes it too long! Help ASAP! [[User:TheHumstarRonner|TheHumstarRonner]] 03:03, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:See [[HRWiki:Changing Username]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:44, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::In case this helps at all, it's acceptable to use a shorter version of his username in your sig without actually changing your username. As an example, you could use "HumstarRonner" without the "The", if that helps make it short enough. But I don't know what your design idea is, so I can't be sure what would help. Anyway, thought I'd let you know. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:53, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

== The word that shall not be named ==

Re: editing out on YouTube talk page. I really don't see why you are getting so upset over the use of that word. I know it's Yiddish in origin, but it's meaning is about the same as "yahoo" or "slob"— just a random guy, maybe a bit of a loser. It is not harsh enough to require editing out. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 21:00, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
:No, no it's not. Please come on to IRC and i will be glad to explain it. I'm not willing to explain it here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:10, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
::But we don't censor bollocks, which is roughly equivalent to Brits as what I understand to be the earlier Yiddish origin. And leaving it as stars makes it seem a lot worse than the poster intended. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.245|128.103.10.245]] 21:14, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
:::That's different. We don't censor SB no matter what he says. Now, can we please please PLEASE stop making a big deal out of this? Anyone who's curious can find me on IRC and discuss it OFF the family-friendly wiki. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:20, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
::::After doing further research, I still think you are over-reacting (since I'm going from the American English meaning, not the original Yiddish). IRC is not an option, sorry. But your compromise is enough. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 22:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

== "Not what it's called"? ==

I don't mind which version of the quote we use for that Homestar and The Cheat article, but I hope you know that the one I typed is the quote from the [[Original Book]], not a misquote of [[Strongest Man in the World]]. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 23:39, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
:When I made the edit, it didn't edit conflict me from when you DID, in fact, have not quite the right quote. That said, I kinda also forgot that the original book had that wording. Still, i kinda like the A, B quote better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:54, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

== Thee and thuh ==

That's actually a [[Wiktionary:the|real rule]] - "thee" before vowel and "thuh" before consonant - but it's an extremely loose rule and I don't even think most people recognize it as a rule; they just say it (usually) out of habit. So while it's true, I wouldn't put the fact on a page even if SB were to break it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Is there a rule about "a" being pronounced "ay" vs. "uh"? Clearly can't be the same rule, since it's "an" in that case. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:: None I'm aware of. Probably varies by accent or stress. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 11:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Maybe it will interest you ==

Here is the link: http://thedeserttabernacle.blogspot.com
Post it here because I dont know how to send you a private message.
Feel free to remove it from here.
:Thank you, this seems interesting. Gmar chatimah tovah. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:44, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

== Not sure where you are... ==

...but where I am, it's currently October 31. Happy birthday df {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 01:19, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
:Same thing, Happy Birfday Fendam'n. 24 years old and more. --{{User:Record307/sig}} 01:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== The Brother's Chap's. ==

DeFender-

I just wanted to let you know, IF you don't know this already, that I know why TBC has not made a main update since, like, April, for April Fool's.
Their father died, and said they would be taking a 6 month vacation. Someone told me that bit of information a few days ago. I do not know the website's name, nor do i know when that comment from TBC was updated on the other site. Just thought i'd let you know. Thanks!

-[[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]
:Er.. their father, [[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]], died in 2006. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:: That's what my friend told me, or maybe i misheard? but someone in their family died.... i don't know.... look it up, maybe you will be able to find out.... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]

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*Darn! I just spent an hour transcribing the toon to find someone'd already done it! Is there some procedure for calling dibs on it? Also, I know that I contributed both the cast of characters and the easter egg, yet I do not see my edit listed in the history. What gives? -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**I can't comment on the second part, but it's normal to post in the transcription section saying that it's in progress. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 04:58, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**Your edit is on the page [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_presents:_Presents&redirect=no Homestar presents: Presents]. I made a template on this page ([[Homestar Presents: Presents]] - note correct capitalization) and posted that the transcript was in progress at around 1:40 EST. After I'd finished the entire page (picture, cast list, transcript, fun facts, and easter eggs), I noticed the other page with the incorrect capitalization. Since all it had was a cast list, the lone easter egg, and a couple of Fun Facts that I didn't have, I took the Fun Facts that weren't already on my page and moved them there, then deleted the rest of that page and changed it to a redirect to this page. -- [[User:Forteblast|Forteblast]] 10:05, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***That's all well and good, but you did use my text in the easter egg (at least in the italic scene description), unless somehow we had the exact same wording (which I doubt). As petty as it may seem, I'd like credit for it in some way. It's a little annoying to put work into something and have someone else delete it. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
*Could Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone be a refrence to the film The Waterboy? There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged.. and he's wearing high heels.
**Maybe. Why don't you post it on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page? [[User:Forteblast|Forteblast]] 10:05, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**It could also be a reference to replacement and that one toon where in swf you can see something unplugged in Marzipan's house.

== Snowfall sound ==

We've heard the snowfall sound before. Where? It's not from sweet cuppin' cakes that I can figure, and I went through all 22 main pages looking for a reference that would trigger my memory. Anybody remember? [[User:spblat|spblat]] 17:48, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)

Ah yes. It's Homsar walking. [[User:spblat|spblat]]

Oh. Uh, um. No it's not. Sorry guys. [[User:spblat|spblat]]

:I talk to myself too. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

== Fun facts ==

Is it just me or do the fun facts on this page need to be cut by about 75%? Most of them really don't seem to be "fun" enough... --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 00:53, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
:It almost ALWAYS seems like that, but frankly some of them are still notable, if not "fun". Unless it's obviously wrong, already mentioned or just way way too vague, why do we get so paranoid about them? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:37, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

 
::''Homsar's paintbrush rings like a bell.'' '''Duh.''' 
::''Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in car./The dripping during Strong Sad's scene is the same sound used in Main Page 14.'' '''All the sounds on the site are recycled. So what?''' 
::''Apparently Free Country, USA has a wharf, although Strong Bad didn't know this either, despite him appearing in a boat in both lures & jigs and montage.'' '''This needs rewriting... maybe ''Strong Bad didn't know Free Country USA had a wharf, even though he has appeared in a boat in [[lures & jigs]] and [[montage]].'' The first part of this fun fact is just repeating the end joke.''' 
::''Homsar quote of "You're a real state trooper" may be a commonly mistaken lyric from "Straight Shooter" by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric says "You're a real straight shooter"/It could also be a parody on the phrase, "You're a real trooper", a phrase which usually means, "You're pretty tough!"'' '''Or, more likely, it is Homsar being stupid and random again.''' 
::''When we see Homestar's clock in the beginning of the toon at 9:59, and then it turns to 10:00, that looks a little like the way they show Phil Connors's clock repeatedly turning from 5:59 to 6:00 in the movie Groundhog Day.'' '''Seriously. A lot of clocks look like that. Probably not a reference.''' 
::''It is a little odd that Homestar runs out of the house naked, considering that he had a shirt on when he woke up.'' '''Yeah, that's the joke, "Naked somehow"...''' 
::''Both Homestar and Strong Bad imply Homestar has slept through Decemberween before, but Bubs and Marzipan do not recognize that it has.'' '''Huh? Homestar impies that? Where? If this is worth keeping, it needs serious rewording...''' 
:::--[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 11:00, 22 Dec 2004 (MST) is fed up with the STUFF page, where nothing seems to get done

Feel free to [[STUFF]] these, that's what it's for. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

Yeah... see my signature on the previous post for more info. :P --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 16:23, 23 Dec 2004 (MST) makes no more comments for now
:Putting them in STUFF would be every bit as productive as putting them here. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
 
''Homestar takes about 15 minutes to go from his house to Bubs' Concession Stand; he woke up at 10, and then told Bubs that he had an 1 hour and 45 minutes left when he got to the concession stand.''
 
When Homestar exits his house, he ends up outside, "naked somehow" with [[Cinnamon]] on his face. Therefore, in addition to traveling to Bubs' Concession Stand, he had to get dressed and remove the cinnamon in the fifteen minutes between 10 and 10:15, and it is impossible to tell how long it took him to get to Bubs'.
--[[User:Badpuncentral|Badpuncentral]] 23:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar or Marzipan's house? ==

Hmm, how do we know this isn't Marzipan's house? It looks like her house from 3 times halloween funjob. And I thought Homestar's house was red with spots.

== some little comments ==

*The sound quality is higher than normal, resulting in crisper sound compared to other toons on the site.
:I had removed this, but now agree after listening to it on my system with 5.1 speakers - sorry.

*Homestar's alarm clock here is different from the alarm clock in radio. It was apparently made just for him, as it says "Homestar's Clock" right on it.
:I had rewritten/consolidated these, but now wondering if the first part (or all) is worth noting, as I noticed the clock radio in [[radio]] appears to be in a different room (at least on a different piece of furniture in the same room) - so who cares if he has different clock in another room?

--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:38, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Panic Room==
I removed a "fact" about the credits resembling those from the movie Panic Room. This seems a stretch even by my standards. Post a comparison shot and we can reconsider. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 21:32, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I have to admit I thought of ''[[imdb:tt0258000|Panic Room]]'' when I first saw the title sequence of this toon as well. I'm surprised I managed to find not only [http://www.dvdtalk.com/cinemagotham/archives/000536.html some screenshots] of the movie, but an entire article about the opening sequence. That quicktime movie they link to doesn't seem to be working, but you can watch the opening credits at [http://www.picturemill.com/ picturemill.com]. ("What we do" --> "Film" --> "Main Titles" --> Scroll right [about six times] --> "Panic Room") Isn't the Internet great?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:40, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
==Closed Fun Facts==
=== Wizard of Oz (Declined) ===
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' I think that is just Homsar-ness. --[[User:Lappy 486]]
===Coach Z's Phone (Accepted)===
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!
*'''Decline!''' No! They're just reusing shapes! Remember the ketchup and the haggler?

=== Blade man (Declined)===
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.
*Using a rusty stake knife does not make him a blade man, man. '''Declined man, man.''' [[User: Lappy 486]]
=== Slippers (Accepted)===
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Homestar Runner's Sleepwear|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:48, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''-- [[User: Lappy 486]]

=== Length Of Grabbo Arm (Declined)===
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
**'''Comment.''' Actually you CAN see how far the Grabbo Arm goes off screen. just watch the .swf file. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:52, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

=== It's odd considering... (Declined)===
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== "state trooper" (Declined)===
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== Grabbo Arm Sound (Accepted)===
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''FunFact=very yes.''' I like this fun fact a lot, and even remember it when it was among the other fun facts. I wonder why it was stuff'd. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:17, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' And Strong Bad's left boxing glove looks the same as his right boxing glove...

=== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor (Declined) ===
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". {{User:Rainer/sig}}
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That is about as obvious as saying "if there is a building with 5 floors and you go to the top floor, you are on the 5th floor." [[User: Lappy 486]]

=== Homestar's Clock (Accepted) ===
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== Charlie Brown (Accepted as part of [[Homestar's House]]) ===
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

''This information, while mostly true, belongs on [[Homestar's House]], which it is.''

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

=== Coach Z's disconnected reciever (Declined) ===
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just when i sorta regained confidence in non-speculating Fun Facts. There is no notable similarity in this. Its a comic gag, not a reference. Even if it might be reference, we do not have enough proof to validate it as a "fact". In response to Jay, I don't think this will be another Change of Pace, if only because this cartoon did not come out one day after Waterboy. If that had happened it might be impossible to deflect this "fun" "reference." -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''ACCEPT''' I cried,I cried like a ten year old girl..i mean[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 19:57, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Orffsetting the accept above -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Tony Stony ==

Should Tony Stony really be under Cast, since it's an item? -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 03:59, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

== Day/Night Goof ==
Hasn't anyone said anything about the fact that it is suddenly daylight while Homestar is going throught the aught four crap? Is this right?
::No, sorry, but it isn't right. Try viewing the Flash file and manipulating the window size. You can see the sky at all times if you do (outside, anyways). --Annonymous User Number 69.139.163.12

==undercover strongbad==
don't you guys think that strongbad is in a homsar costume?i mean, "alms for the pudgy"?that even sound to non sensible for homsar.and "youre a real state trooper"seems to sensible,and he says alms for the pudgy twice!homsar never says anything twice.any comments?-stretchyman.

:I have two comments for you. First off, no, no, no, absolutely not. Second off, learn some typing ediquite, for Pete's sake! --[[User:Homsar Lover|Homsar Lover]]

== Weird Glitch ==

Today when I decided to watch this toon I saw something '''''really''''' weird. THE CLOCK WAS COUNTING UP!!!! And it was counting up '''super slowly''' and when it got to 9 it just went back to 1 and it started counting up normal speed. But when it got to 9 it just went back to 1 and it the clock was counting in that pattern. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 14:15, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:And another thing, when it is counting very slowly and it reaches 9 the number of minutes goes up by one. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 14:17, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, It Does That After The 25. Decemberween is on the 25.-[[User:Homsar7|Homsar7]]
: No, that's not normal. The timer should decrease, not increase, and there should be a zero somewher in there. I'm not in a position to check it right now, but I'll check it this evening if I remember. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:44, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
: ... except that this discussion is about two months old. Eh, I'll still check it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

== Alms For The Pudgy? ==

This has to be my favorite Homsar quote. Go Homsar! -[[User:Homsar7|Homsar7]]

Is this really a salvation army referance? "Alms for the (poor/other condition)" is an archaic begging call (also used in [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Life of Brian|Life of Brian]] to give an example ([http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/brian/brian-05.htm alms for an ex-leper?])), although having not seen a SA christmas drive i can't comment on the similarity with the bucket and 'bell' -- [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 17:46, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

== Madstyle ==

<blockquote>And you'd put them in the back of the windshield of the Madstyle—</blockquote>

What's a Madstyle? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:59, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
:I really can't tell from [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=madstyle Google]... Anyone else? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::It sounds like it has to be a car, but I can't think of anything either. Is there a possibility it was mistranscribed? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:16, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

== On the subject of no AM/PM light... ==

Didn't he look out the window and notice the moon being out?
:Yes he did, no-signer guy. However, he says that he set the clock for PM instead of AM, but there didn't seem to be any way to tell. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

== Audio ==

Anyone notice the Audio quality of this cartoon is a little higher than normal? Maybe it's my brand new super-duper soundcard, but I doubt it. [[User:Sneakernets|Sneakernets]] 07:47, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

== Aught? ==
I must be missing something. What doese "aught" mean anyway [[User:Yo yo mom|Yo yo mom]] 10:27, 25 December 2007
:[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/aught "Aught"] is another way of saying "zero", really. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:37, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::Er, no. "Ought" is a cipher, a zero. "Aught" is a way of saying "should", as "I aught to be going to the store." {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Er, maybe. I may have them backwards. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:50, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Qermaq, you most certainly do have them backwards. In response to yo momma, let'[s put it in perspective. This was the Decemberween toon for 2004. or oh-four, or aught-four. As aught-five was right around the corner, bubs was preparing. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:31, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

== Countdown clock ==

Now, I'm not sure of the exact minutes til dween, but right now the countdown clock at the end says 570 minutes til decemberween, which someone pointed out on the talk page. Should this be in goofs ro something? --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 19:29, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
:By my calculations, it seems to be counting down the minutes until the end of '''June''' 25. And this makes sense (a little), knowing that June is the 6th month, and December is the 12th. This corresponds with the lone fixed goof of the toon, adding to the confusion. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 20:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::This freaking clock... the thing was wrong with it before? That's in "fixed" goofs? I think it's doing that again. So... it's not a fixed goof anymore, I don't think. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 15:04, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Guys? It's still doing it. And I'm not one for editing pages, especially because I have no clue how to word it. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 16:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Nevermind. I think I did it. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 16:05, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== strong sad ==

Did anybody notice that homestar thought about strong sad when he wasn't there most of the time strong sad has to talk or be around for a long time for someone to even notice him (ben thompson)

== FLASH FILE'D ==

The flash file goes to the 404 page. This means that the link is false. If the file was tooken off the site, the 'toon wouldn't play at all, so there is a working flash file. Can anyone find it? {{User:Star Guy/sig}} 23:14, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:The Flash file works fine for me. Must be something on your end. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:50, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::Sorry, I fixed it after seeing this and apparently forgot to reply here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh! That explains everything! ''{The End}'' --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

== We are the champions ==

When strong bad says "it goes on and on and on" could it be a reference to the Queen song "we are the champions"
 <blockquote>And we going on and on and on and on.
 We are the champions my friend...</blockquote>

 -pgj1997
:Most likely not. Just Strong Bad saying it goes on until New Year's. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

::Are you saying strong bad saying it goes on and on and on until new years is a reference?
:::No, I'm saying it's not a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:49, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::::it's almost as likely as it is to being a reference to Don't Stop Believin' by Journey. In other words, it's not a reference to either one of them. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 03:28, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== O Christmas hairdo, O Christmas Hairdooooo....... ==

This one is about Marzi's hair in this one. Usually, chrstmas tree lights have to be plugged in, so, why, or should I say, WHERE, is the plug? Also, Question 2, IF they were plugged in, How could've she hid all the cords in her hair, because usualy, christmas lights comes in STRANDS..... so, even just to make a little bit of sence, the Xmas lights should've been in a diagonal pattern, or something! [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]

Talk:Strong Bad

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== Character galleries ==
Hm, what should we do about character gallery sub-pages? I'd just as soon not have them, but I know that will make someone mad. Do we add a gallery section to the page? I sure wish we could do thumbnails. I need to talk with our host about installing ImageMagick. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 11:31, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

:Hmm. I was just thinking the same thing about how that screenshot would look better in a box up on the right. What would we have to do to get ImageMagick? For the galleries... I don't know. Really they were just made by one person who just did a Google image search for them. They are just hotlinked images ripping off someone else's bandwidth. I say we don't need them. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:37, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

== Character Bios in General ==
Yeah, these character bios need some series work. Do we really need to mention things that happened in one toon? (The underwear thing? Sibbie?) I think we should stick to the general stuff. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:37, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

"TAG TEAM WRESTLING" NOT "TAG TEAM PRO WRESTLING" (DATA EAST 1986)

No, the first guy is right. In that game, from Data East, there are only two wrestling teams, one names the "Ricky Fighters" and one called "The Strongbads." The strongbads consisted of one red masked wrestler that created red impact signs (easily mistaken for gloves) when he hit somebody. The other wrestler was a fat bearded guy. Data East has a strong case for copyright infringement...

do some research

== I agree ==

These need more stuff about their personality. for begginners

What could also be added to this is the origination of the characters. Like say, Strong Bad. He was in a 1986 NES video game entitled "Tag Team Pro Wrestling" and is somehow copyrighted to homestarrunner.com when it was clearly copyrighted in that game. The true ownership should be credited to the real character owners.

THAT'S NOT TRUE!
You can play "Tag Team Pro Wrestling" on www.everyvideogame.com . Not only is it a crappy video game, the wrestlers are NAMELESS, and none of them wear anything resembling Strongbad's mask!

Ironically, so are both of you guys. As for StrongBad, He does not come from that game. [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

true guy from the 'bove--[[User:Valf|Valf]] 19:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad... A HARRY POTTER WIZARD!? ==
I think Strong Bad might be a wizard. Here are some reasons
A. His house's layout changes.
B. He has a hobby of "Barbzerdry"
C. He has telekinetic powers.
D. He has acess to moving pictures. (Strong Bad E-mail "No Loafing")

Is he a wizard or not?

:The moving picture was simply a goof. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 15:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

:"telekinetic powers"? Where? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Dude, It's from [[Strong Bad Email]] [[super powers]]. [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]
:Yeah, not "telekinetic" ''per se'', but he can open a Cold One with that blue diamond.--[[User:T3H CH3K7 888|T3H_CH3K7_888]] 19:39, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

== Boxing gloves? ==

Why is anybody mentioning how SB can type with boxing gloves on? I think it is well worth mentioning

How are we even sure that those even ''are'' boxing gloves? It said in one of the interviews that Strong Bad's face is a mask, and he doesn't hae anything underneath it. Maybe his boxing gloves ARE his hands. --[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 20:47, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:His boxing gloves are, in fact, his hands: [[some kinda robot]] {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:31, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::In [[some kinda robot]] this is proven. [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
::He's right. That and in "New Hands". His face is a mask and his hands are Boxin' gloves. Yup...I'm gonna go start somethin on Sweet Cuppin' Cakes.Check it out.-Maarshmallow(Zaak)

== Age ==

I've found enough evidence to form an estimate of Strong Bad's age.

*In the SB E-mail "Two Years", Strong Bad shows us a photo of himself in 1987 which shows that he was still an adult at that time.
*In The SB E-mail "Stand-Up", we see Strong Bad as a child. Coach Z's afro indicates that the time period was the 70's.

With this evidence, I have estimated Strong Bad's age at 30-35 years old.

:I have found some evidence that contadicts your claim:
:*Strong Bad is a cartoon character.
:[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:41, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

An interesting idea, but the idea of Stand up has been debated in STUFF, and we thought that Coach Z had no fashion sense, and that his afro was out of style. And Strong Bad isn't exactly human, so we really can't think of his age. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

Actually, in a pure sense of considering everything, what about Strong Bad's appearance in [[old comics|The Castlefunnies]], which got cancelled prior to 1948! That puts his age at 57, at least. Anyway, he's whatever age he needs to be for a particular cartoon. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 23:02, 10 August 2005 (BST)

That's contradicts, not contadicts, and Strong Sad is much better than Strong Bad.
-Mips
Whats yer problem,Mipsy?!?Strong Bad is TONS better than Strong Sad. Strong Sad is stupid and a bone figure wearin' a potato sack in "Ballad of the Sneak" and in "Highschool"'s Easter egg.Click on Roman Times on the last page of the e-mail to see him in a bag of Olives.
-Maarshmallow(Zaak)
:You do know that that's [[Old-Timey]], right?--[[User:T3H CH3K7 888|T3H_CH3K7_888]] 19:41, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::Why have you been responding to conversations that are 2-4 years old? -{{User:YK/sig}} 19:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Strong Bad just about rules over the entire world wide web. [[User:SteakStyles|SteakStyles]] 19:32, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Elvis Costello ==

A few days ago I was watching tv and came across a song that featured a man in boxing gloves typing on a typewriter this left me wondering if that song (I don' know the name of the song I just know it's from Elvis Costello) was the inspiration for strong bad.--[[User:Sultn|Sultn]] 08:07, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:After a quick search, I found that the video for "Every Day I Write The Book" featured actors playing Prince Charles and Lady Diana. Charles is sitting at his typewriter plugging away on the book (while wearing boxing gloves). Meanwhile Princess Di is watching cheesy swashbuckling romantic black and white movies, intermittently looking over at Charles and sighing. Via [http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/08/25/012231.php#comments].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:13, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

So are you saying that, it wasn't the inspiration, or it was?

== Triangle or Diamond? ==

Okay, is the thing on SB's face a triangle or diamond? Because It's shaped like a triangle, but in SB' biography, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] keeps changing it to diamond. Am I missing something? [[User:Homestramy20|Homestramy20]] 22:45, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:1. Never on the site is it referred to as a triangle.
:2. Don't get confused between a diamond and something diamond-shaped. Not all diamonds are diamond-shaped (or more accurately, a rhombus).
:—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:49, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh-kay... Good advice. But where is it referred on the site that it's a diamond? [[User:Homestramy20|Homestramy20]] 02:31, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:[[super powers]]. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 02:33, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=diamond&fulltext=Search HRWiki Search for "diamond"]; [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=triangle&fulltext=Search HRWiki Search for "triangle"] —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:36, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ohh.. right. Sorry about that. [[User:Homestramy20|Homestramy20]] 02:48, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Don't feel sorry about wondering. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:49, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Okay [[User:Homestramy20|Homestramy20]] 04:39, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

If you ask me, it looks like a rounded pentagon.[[User:Platinum789hi|Platinum789hi]]
: This is a four-year-old conversation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

== all the real girls ==
strong bad was apparently seen in the background in some scenes in the 2003 movie, "all the real girls", at least according to IMDb
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0299458/

:See [[Matt Chapman#Acting]] for details.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:41, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
No he wasn't.I saw that movie...you must be hallucinating.No sleep, huh?Overaddicted to H*R?-Zaak(Maarshmallow)

Matt Chapman has a minor appearance in the movie. His character's appearance shows up as Strong Bad in the credits.

== Green tounge? ==

When was strong bad seen with his tounge?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:49, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
:He has a green tongue in [[Super NES]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Visit this page: [[Green Tongues]], I hope it helps!![[User:Platinum789hi|Platinum789hi]]

== strong bad's basement ==

You know the wall painting in the basement, is that a flag or some made up design?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Are you talking about the white and blue stripe that goes across the wall with a few zig-zags? If so, I think it's just meant to be a basic pattern. It's not any flag that I recognize, anyway. Hope that helps? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:55, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
:Also, it's based on a real wall in a room the Brothers Chaps sometimes use. See [[Making of Email 100]] for a picture. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::And TBC probably just liked it 'cause it was a random design or something. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:32, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:It's not ''based'' on a real wall. The real wall was painted to match the basement. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 03:33, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
::Oh really? I thought it was vica-versa. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:32, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
It's one of those Wallpapers.Ya know for people who are really broke. like Strong Bad.-[Zaak(Maarshmallow)]

== Strong Bad's Poor Word Usage ==

I'm sure many of you have noticed Strong Bad's numerous spelling and grammatical errors throughout his email career. Do you think this deserves it's own page, an amendment to the current character bio, or just the throwaway mention it currently has? Just asking. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 05:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:First of all, I'd like to move that the word "hypocrisy" not be used, since it's a pet peeve of mine when it's used to mean "someone failing to live up to what they preach". It really ought to be reserved more for situations of duplicity and misrepresentation, in which people try to make themselves appear to hold beliefs or standards that they inwardly know they don't. But to answer your question, yeah, it's common enough that it deserves something. Either expanded coverage on this page, or maybe a page to itself. I was starting to mention Running Gags and Inside Jokes, but I guess one problem is that some of these seem to be TBC goofs rather than gags. Hm. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::Stricken from the record. In face I won't even call it Hy****sy any more. We'll call it Josh. Ok, so would you favor just expanding the character bio more, or having it's own page that we could link stuff to? I would personally favor a new page simply because it's a slightly more complex issue than the standard bio. If someone wants to dig deep enough into the subject, they'll find a nice page waiting for them. But that's just me. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 05:59, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Mm—I'm not sure. I can see merits of both. (Of having a page because it would be easy to link to and because this does have the marks of a recurring phenomenon, if not an intentional gag; and of keeping it on this page just because we seem to be making new pages every day chronicling every instance of specific conceptual entities, and maybe we need to ease up on them.) I'm... hesitant. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:02, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Understandable. I must confess that I am guilty of creating a probably useless page, though it was fun to do, and far more efficient than just tacking it on to the page in question (specifically [[The Paper]]. See [[Preeow]] and tell me what you think). Part of me is probably just looking for crap I can take credit for and I'm surpressing that urge because that's not what the Wiki is about. However, I think this particular phenomenon merits closer study and categorization, just because I keep finding loose refernces to Strong Bad's spelling errors, and I'd like to have them corralled in one place. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 06:09, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Well, yeah, I can see how [[Preeow]] might have less of a leg to stand on. And I agree, this phenomenon ''does'' need documentation. I think I'm leaning toward a page of its own. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:25, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::I think I'll start on it tomorrow. It's late here. Hopefully by then H*R is working again. I'm having trouble loading certain parts of it, but the sbemail section is unharmed. Also, someone hasn't beaten me to it and hopelessly screwed up a good idea. Thanks for the input Viklas. It was not came's. He borrowed mine. I think I has the solution: width times height. -Stark Dålig...just kidding. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 06:32, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::We have a [[Poorly Written Emails|Spelling]] article for non-Strong Bad errors. Consider including your information in this article or using the same format for your new article. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Why don't you put the page format like the format for the "Decoding Homsar's Speech" page? [[User:Platinum789hi|Platinum789hi]]

Thanks for the input Tom. I think I'm going to give it it's own page, but use a similar format. Should have a first draft for everyone to rip apart in an hour or so. Thanks again everybody! -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 15:47, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

==STRONGBADIOPHAGE==

Why do Strongbadiophage and the other Free Petry(sic.) Dish USA characters not have their own articles, or at least their explanations?-[[User:BassBone|BassBone]]
:They're listed at [[Stylized Character Designs]] {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 00:56, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
::Also, we don't really know they existed, because of Strong Bad's "Doodle Memory". --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 00:26, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

== The Cheat ==
Ya know the Cheat Theme Song on Powered By The Cheat?This should be on The Cheat disscusions, but why wasn't Strong bad in it?Marzipan and Homestar Were.At least really crappy versions of them.-Maarshmallow(Zaak)[Gir007]

you are so right gir

Who is this?Click the freakin' scribbley thing at the top of the screen to sign your name so other people can get in!Is this The Double Deuce?Chuck Norris will Roundhouse kick you.Or maybe Strong Bad.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 23:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

it is me Zaak--[[User:The-double-deuce|The-double-deuce]] 00:00, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== how did homestar get strong bad to hug that tree. ==

seriously how did he do that?--[[User:The-double-deuce|The-double-deuce]] 00:06, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

No one knows.Let's Ask other people!How did he get him to hug the tree?!Hug it!Keep on huggin it!--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 00:36, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== Prejudice ==

You have his ethnic prejudices on this page - they are minor if existant. I think that as long as that is there it is worty mentioning that he seems to be homophobic, based on his reactions to come-ons from Homestar and Brian (brianrietta). Don't you think this is worth mentioning?

:You didn't sign your post, that's worth mentioning. Anyway, I'd hardly call his behavior in brianretta homophobic. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:14, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

::I agree, that's not homophobic. Someone being wierded out over someone of the same gender coming on to you is just normal. Homophobic means that you are generally afraid of gays or are afraid of becoming gay. Although, according to wikipedia the definition had been widely broadened to mean that you are homophobic if you disagree with homosexuality...which I think is a view that only liberals have because I think most people that think that homosexuality is wrong but still tolerate homosexuals would not consider themselves homophobic. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Not homophobic. In fact, I appreciate him taking it very well. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 03:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

== Two Words. Two Different Words. ==

strongbad is one word. this is not up for debate.

Strong Bad is two(2) count 'em TWO words. This is just a common misconception.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 21:23, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

:It isn't up for debate, you're right. It is [[myths & legends|two words. Two different words. That are not one word. That are 'Strong' and 'Bad'.]] {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:27, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
:: Darn you and your edit conflicty powers! :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:29, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

== Why use Montage? ==

The picture of Strong Bad from montage has been there for a while, and when ever I try to change it someone changes it back. I always change it to the Strong Bad on a white background from japanese cartoon, as it is a better view. Why can't we use the one from japanese cartoon instead of montage?

:If you've read what I wrote in the edit summary when reverting you, you would have realized that the picture from japanese cartoon is from a previews [[Strong Bad Evolution|evolution of Strong Bad]]. We like to have the most updated character art on our pages. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:35, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

== Dizzy ==

I'm 100% sure this is a coincidence, but a long time ago there was this video game character who had an egg-shaped head, boxing gloves for hands and red boots. His name was Dizzy [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dizzy_series] and I suddenly began to think about it earlier today.
:No, he has an [[Eggs|Egg]] for a ''body''. Not a head. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 22:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's head ==

I wrote
*Strong Bad's head moves around when he is speaking a lot more when he is facing away from the camera. This is true even when he [[Main Page 23|thinks he is facing the camera]].
This was reverted by Qermaq with the comment "I dunno. It's highly subjective, plus the animation demands make this kinda likely". I want to argue this, and the talk page is a better place to do it than edit summaries. 
I don't see how that is highly subjective. Maybe a little subjective. It's pretty obvious in [[The Cheat Theme Song]], and Main Page 23. He doesn't move his head from side to side at all from the front, but he does it a lot from the back. 
And I do know why it was done, but I just thought it was interesting. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 02:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:The out-of-universe explanation is that TBC thought it would be easier and more interesting to animate Strong Bad's head for Strong Bad Emails, and doing so isn't necessary when he's facing the camera. They, as explained on DVD commentaries, regret this decision. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:10, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== Filmography ==
Uh... I don't think Strong Bad's been in more toons than Homestar, not including SBEmails, if you counted those. You hafta think that there hasn't been a toon where SB's in (as a main part, not counting an easter egg or like, one word) that H*R isn't. I haven't counted their filmographies, though yet, so, I dunno really anything about it. Its just it seems highly unlikely. [[User:Strong Devon|Strong Devon]] 21:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

== Add his rocket? ==

Hey! I was thinking I could add a paragraph about his rocket in his biography? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:Why? it comes up once. Like once. I see no reason for it. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 00:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
::I see your point. Your right. Thanks for pointing that out! {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:::Well, not an entire paragraph. Mabye a sentence or two. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 00:24, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

== World domination? ==
Doesn't it seem as if Strong Bad is taking over the Homestar Runner universe? I mean... He's in more episodes then Homestar and he is kinda twisted like that...Comments? [[User:Name|Name]] 18:31, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
:Dude your right... that's crazy.... --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 21:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

==Computers==
I think someone should make a template for all his computers. Not me. I dont know how. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 00:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

:Hows this?
 
<table align="center" id="navbox" style="margin: 0 auto 0 auto; padding: 0.2em">
<tr><th align="center" style="background:gray" width="100%">[[Strong Bad|Strong Bad's]] [[Items#Strong Bad's Computers|Computers]]</th></tr>
<tr><td align = "center" valign="top" style="font-size: smaller;">
[[Tandy 400]] | [[Compy 386]] | [[Lappy 486]] | [[Block]] | [[Corpy NT6]]
</td></tr></table>
<nowiki><noinclude>[[Category:Navigation_Templates|C]]</noinclude></nowiki>
--{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 00:19, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

:I like it — I can't see any reason not to have it at the bottom of those computers' pages. Also, it shouldn't be too hard to combine it with the infoboxes for the main three computers so that they're one single template. I'll poke around with this for a minute... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:27, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

::So should I put it on the Computer Pages? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 00:40, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

:::Well, we really should've waited a little longer for other users to weigh in, but we can remove the templates if there's a great public outcry :P
:::By the way, I didn't have any immediate luck in wrangling the parserfunctions to incorporate the infoboxes into the template, but that can be done later perhaps. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:47, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
::::i don't know what a Parserfunction is. But, whatever. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 00:49, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::It's just a conditional function that would include the infoboxes in the template when it appeared on they Tandy, Compy, and Lappy pages, but not the other two. Like you said, whatever :P {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:51, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::Well, there was three users, in case you didn't notice it was mee that created the template page. And Jangles, instead of coping the code for the template, just put <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:strongbadcomputers|strongbadcomputers]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Well, three users could've been enough if we had waited a little while and no one else replied, but I think it would have been better to wait in this case. Anyway, what's done is done, and it can always be reversed if necessary. (Also, Super Martyo Brother, it would have been nice to let Jangles make the template page since he put the work into creating it.) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:59, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree with you. I was just bored and there wasn't much goin' on, so I went to the sandbox and saw his template and made a tweak to it then I noticed you guys were having a discussion about it being a template so I put it on a template page. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:10, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Ok. I think that we should change the search feature so that you dont have to type in ''excactly'' the page you want to get to in order to get to it. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 00:55, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::::And that's why we have a magical thing called redirects. i.e. if you wanted it so '''strong bad''' redirects to '''[[Strong Bad]]''' (which it does) you'd put <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Strong Bad]]</nowiki> on the '''strong bad page'''. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:58, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::If this is a new topic, this would be better posted at Talk:Main Page or Da Basement. If not, huh? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:00, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
(bringing this discussion back to earth...) Well, yes, but his question was answered with my reply, so... '-_- {{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:03, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Just wondering. I don't really care if Super Maryto Brother made the template page. It's okay with me. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 12:00, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

== SB fully closing his eye ==
Okay - does the unexpected wink in [[Field Day intro]] count as closing an eye fully? Just wondering, [[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 04:23, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
:No. Part of his eye can still be seen. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 04:25, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
::Does [[Jibblies 2]] count? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:20, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::: Um... whenever Stro Bo tries to close his eyes, you can still see little green slits.[[Chipwich]]

== Jim-jams ==

could it be added that SB, at some point, slept in "oh, I dunno, long V-neck undershirt with a pair of questionable tighty-whities underneath" be added to this article, like as a fun fact? -Shaggy

sorry, forgot to link. it's from "[[slumber party]]"

:I don't think this is relevant enough to be mentioned here. Strong Bad has worn [[Strong Bad Other Costumes|a lot of other customes]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

alright --[[User:Shaggy|Shaggy]] 02:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

==Winter pool mouth==
Should we post a photo of Strong Bad's weird mouth in [[winter pool]] {{User:Coach B/sig}}

== His walk ==

*I think that perhaps the way he walks (or at least used to walk) with his head held high is worthy of a mention somehow... [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

== SB Robots article ==

Should we have a "Strong Bad Robots" article? Look at all the robots of SB. Grape Nuts, Animatronic, the one from tgs 12. It's an inside joke, or even a running gag. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 01:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Blinking ==

I just noticed that Strong Bad doesn't seem to have a blinking loop. Is that worth a mention, since (as far as I can tell) it isn't already? - [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 21:30, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
:Naw, because Homestar and Marzipan are the only characters who ''do'' blink regularly. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
::Fair enough. - [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 04:29, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

== Lighting ==
Shouldn't it be noted that Strong Bad always has window shines on his boxing gloves, even when he is not standing next to a window. Also, the shines go in different direction suggesting that there is windows on both sides of him, but there isn't. Just look at all his videos, when he's outside. [[User:The Pony man|The Pony man]] 01:28, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

== Puppet Strong Bad ==

Why isn't Puppet Strong Bad listed in Variations? [[User:Coach z's cool|Coach z's cool]] 03:44, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:Well, there's an image with a link... What, that's not close enough? =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:46, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Super Powers ==
:''In [[super powers]], the blue diamond on his face was shown to give him the power to mentally pop the caps off of [[Cold One]]s (and of Homestar), and [[shapeshifter]] showed that he has powers to change form, though these seem to have been abandoned.''
What exactly makes [[super powers|some one-off jokes]] more notable than [[shapeshifter|other one-off jokes]]? Except for the possibility that no one could tell that the scene in question from the latter Email was not a dream, it's not clear to me what causes the difference in notability. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 19:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:Shapeshifter was crafted around the idea that the power was hypothetical, super powers was not. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.172|132.183.140.172]] 19:45, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
::But if the power was hypothetical, how was Strong Bad able to use it in real life during the ending? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 19:47, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:::It's a joke. Specifically, one of the one-off persuasion. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.172|132.183.140.172]] 19:49, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Also note that the paragraph in question is talking about SB's physical description. We mention superpowers because it's the only time the blue diamond on his forehead, a physical characteristic, has played a prominent role in the plot. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.172|132.183.140.172]] 19:51, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::The end of [[shapeshifter]] clearly showed Strong Bad using his power in the real H*R universe. I don't see what makes it less official than [[super powers]]. Yes, it did seem hypothetical at the beginning of the email, but all the other [[made-up real things]] seemed hypothetical at first too. Besides, it's never explicitly stated that the cutaway shots didn't happen. Either way, I removed the bit about the blue diamond power from the article as well, since it wasn't really integral to the description of the mask. I advocate putting info on both one-off super powers back in the article, preferably in their own paragraph. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::I didn't make it clear before, but I'm really of the opinion myself that both are too tangential to warrant being in SB's main biography. I'm satisfied with the article with them both removed and the diamond part repositioned. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.172|132.183.140.172]] 21:49, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I think of it as a Loony Tunes or Tom and Jerry cartoon. In one episode they're able to pull whatever they need from behind their back, and in another episode they can't. We know that Strong Bad can pop caps off, but him changing form at the end of shapeshifter seemed more like a joke that doesn't really change the storyline. I mean, remember when Homestar got sucked into The Horrible Painting for all of eternity? He's been in plenty of toons sense then. Or when Strong Bad was running around in Strong Sad's feet? Last time I checked Strong Sad still had both of them. So I think that The Diamond power is noteworthy, but I don't think the shapeshifter power is. {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 01:08, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Then it goes back to the question, what makes the blue diamond power more real? Bear in mind that it's at least arguable that everything we see in [[shapeshifter]] actually happens, not just the end. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:21, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, Now that I watch it again, I don't know if either of these powers are notible. They both seem to Loony Tuneish to be real. {{unsigned|Coach z's cool|01:11, 12 March 2009}}

== Where the crudmuffin is Dangeresque in the variations section?!? ==

And don't say he's a major character or some baloney so he doesn't need to be there. He's just as important as old-timey Strong Bad and Stinkoman. --[[Special:Contributions/65.87.242.28|65.87.242.28]] 16:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
: "Variations" are alternate designs or separate characters based on the original. "Dangeresque" is just a role played by Strong Bad; no alternate design (unless you really want to count the sunglasses). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== Push-Ups ==
Strong Bad says he used to be able to do at least four push-ups, but to me he looks a little fat, so i'd like to see him do at least one push-up. [[User:Fingerface|Fingerface]] 00:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

== Accent ==

Hey Idk if anyone else saw that bonus email.. But I really do think That Strong Bad has lost his awsome-sauce Mexican accent. All in favor???? qqqq16-The New(b) {Pernounced quadruple q 16}
:Looking at the article, there doesn't seem to be any mention of his old accent or much about his voice at all. Perhaps this should be addressed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::I agree with you guys, this article does need a mention at the least.--{{User:Platinum789hi/sig}} 19:50, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

== Fake Costumes ==

Shouldn't SB have a list of his "costumes" from the halloween teasers? {{User:Nihaho13/sig}} 20:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

==Character Infoboxes?==

Hey, I was just wondering: why not use "infoboxes" instead of a picture? It would inculde: an image/caption/aliases/occupation/voice actor etc. all in five (or so) boxes in one box, I thought it was a good idea, I see them all over Wikias, whadd'ya say?
PomstarPommer 5 December, 22:09pm, 2009 (UTC)

== 2 weeks? TEETH?? ==

I just thought of something. According to Strong Bad's skull in "Doomy Tales of the Macabre", Strong bad has no teeth. Has anyone here seen Strong Bad with teeth in anything, even something small? like, maybe in a deleted/ never put on the site clip? anything? [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]
:As far as I know, Strong Bad has never shown any teeth. You're more than welcome to search for some, though. {{User:DENNIS/sig}} 14:06, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
::A ha! Found something, but one guy beat me to the punch. It says in the Goofs (I think?) on the "Death Metal" Page that Strong Bad ever mentioned him having teeth. Well.... It's a start. I just of something else! Again, according to SB's skull in "Doomy Tales of the Macabre", He has no teeth. What if his apricot colored mouth, IS his teeth?! Bleck! that's wierd to think of.... but, what if? i need some DEBATING, people! [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]Jibblejibblejibble

Talk:Yearbook Character Page

Jibblejibblejibble — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:14:17 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/Huh?

{{featuredarticle}}
Odd. Even without the "www" the links worked for me. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:30, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
: I left him a message on his Talk page (he's been doing this to other pages). I don't know why he's wasting his time; the "www" is always optional. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:32, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
:: I've read that there can be problems with URLs that don't begin with www.WHATEVER or http://WHATEVER. Maybe he's having problems like that. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 23:02, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)

:::Yeah, this sounds like it might be specific to a certain browser or something. Either way works for me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:22, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)

::::This shouldn't be an issue anymore. What with the [[HRWiki:Projects#Introducing_a_new_Interwiki_link|new Interwiki links]] and all! --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Marzipans book ==

Is it just me or is Marzipan reading the book backwards? Surely the way she is turning the pages would bring her to the front of the book, and the position of the title makes it unlikely to be a Japanese or other right to left reading culture book (edit: oops, forgot the siggy) [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 21:52, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:She is. It's noted on the page's fun facts. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 21:55, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:That's actually pretty common in cartoons, though I don't know why. I assume laziness has something to do with it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:06, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
::Oh yeh, guess I was expecting it in remarks rather than goofs (an example of Marzipan's wierdness rather than a mix up) [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 22:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:::There is the remote explanation that the book is in a language where books go that way, and the title is misprinted. But it was probably just an animation goof. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:35, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hand Writing==

Hey, doesn't Strong Bad have another hand than the one he usually writes in here? [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 17:03, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Links: Why come so many? ==

So, there are a lot of links. Now, [[HRWiki:Standards]] says that there should be little to no links in a transcript. However, there are maybe two links per character page. This is problem, yeah? So, we could either '''a)''' move all links to the Fun Facts section '''b)''' move some links to the Fun Facts section and delete the obvious or unnecessary ones '''c)''' move some links to the Fun Facts section and keep the obvious or unnecessary ones '''d)''' delete all transcript links or '''e)''' leave the page alone, which would unfortunately go against the standards.

I vote '''B'''. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:47, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:''E''{{User:HAJ/sig}}
::What, are you talking about the links to the characters? Those are fine, since this is a special case (not a transcription of the spoken words in a toon, but a record of a written item). As such, there is no cast list, and this is the most logical way to link to all the characters. "No links in a transcript" mostly refers to linking running-gag pages and such. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::More specifically, it means "no links in dialogue". Links in stage directions and headings are perfectly fine. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:50, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== So who's yearbook is this, anyway? ==
Logically, judging by the characters' autographs, the yearbook belongs to some girl within the school. It's worth noting that the page was made in the very early stages of the site. Also, if you consider Strong Sad's statement that he'll never see her again, and the way that Homestar Runner wrote all nervously... my guess is that it belongs to the Homeschool Winner. [[User:David Coppafeel|David Coppafeel]] 20:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:Sounds like a good [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum topic] to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Huh? ==

On the page, it doesn't say where you can find this little feature, no matter if it's on the site hidden somewhere, or if it on a DVD, or anything. Please explain where this is located and put it on the article page, please!

Talk:senior prom

Jibblejibblejibble — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 23:30:05 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Back to the Future? */

== Is the KOT Very Own Show a reference to Butter's Own Episode on South Park ==

Just a comment about the thoughts I had before realizing it was a sbemail instead of a KOT short!
~OptimumCoder
:I don't think it was an intentional reference, as the Brothers Chaps claim they don't watch South Park, and definitely not to that episode (the fact that it's his very own episode is a little too broad), but it is remarkable similar to the infamous Terrance and Phillip episode. They were running a 2-part episode, and rather than showing the second part of it, since the airdate fell on April Fools, they showed a completely unrelated episode. I was thinking of adding this to the references. As long as it's clear that it probably isn't intentional, I think it would fit. And complaints, before I add it? [[User:Evan|Evan]]
::No, this thing is totally a parady of ''Butter's Own Episode''. The opening music is nearly an exact match. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:30, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
:::If someone could get a screenshot from Butters own Episode that would be helpful.
::::I have the episode on my compy, matter o' fact. The "Everyone Knows It's Butters!" part sounds SORTA like the KoT chime, but if the song was a little longer and described how the KoT thinks being your self is the best thing around, then MAYBE I would agree. :P I still insist that it's more like the Terrance and Phillip gag as mentioned.

::::EDIT: Hope it's okay, but I uploaded the song from the Butters episode. http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Butterssong.ogg Whaddya think? I still insist that it's a little vague. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

==Almond paste filled sweet delight==
I think Strong Bad is talking about Marzipan here... you know, the real type.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 16:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia: "Marzipan is a confectionery consisting primarily of ground almonds and sugar that derives its characteristic flavor from bitter almonds, which constitute 4% to 6% of total almond content by weight." Sounds reasonable to me. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::I like it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH... I get it now. That fact was extremely poorly worded, hence my removal of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::So, right now the FF ends with "The comment is clearly directed at the character Marzipan." What about Coach Z and Strong Sad (and the band)? The comment ''may'' be directed only at Marzipan (and this would coincide with the reference to the confection), but I don't agree that it's clear that he's only talking to Marzipan. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::: Marzipans are very gross in my opinion. Yuckaroo— [[User:24.119.81.22|24.119.81.22]] ([[User talk:24.119.81.22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.119.81.22|contribs]]) 22:36, 5 May 2006 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

:::::::Marzipan <> almond paste. Almond paste is just almonds ground with sugar and corn syrup, but isn't cooked. Marzipan is a type of candy that usually contains almond paste plus more sugar, and it's cooked until it reaches the "firm ball" stage (244 F). The cooking gives it a smoother texture, almost like fondant. But I'd still guess that the "almond paste" bit was meant as a reference to Marzipan. | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 21:28, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== The poopsmith speaketh!? ==

Did the poopsmith really just speak in this email? The voice sounds exactly like the poopsmith's in different town, but the poopsmith is shown shrugging afterwards like that wasn't his voice. I'd like to say that he didn't, but I'm not too sure about it. What are your opinions? - Wevegottapulse

:I think it was him. Who else could it be? It sounded like he was about to lead the band into that "Oh Yeah" song from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::Reply to Trey: Totally different "Ohhh Yeah", actually. The one in this email is higher-pitched and was pretty common to hear in this kind of music. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::There's certainly enough suggestion there (that this was The Poopsmith). Might I also point out that this was done in the same voice as the "Hello!" in [[different town]].
::THEN AGAIN! That was in Strong Bad's imagination. Do we have proof that this scene was NOT in Strong Bad's imagination? Did this senior prom actually happen? If not, having The Poopsmith speak here might not be as unusual as it would be if this senior prom really did happen. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I personally think its safe to assume this email wasn't in Strong Bad's imagination. With how Strong Bad actually got The Cheat and Strong Mad to help him and all. (If it was, then we really can't trust anything that happens in H*R ever again. >.> ) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Fair enough. :) Since we can't absolutely prove it was The Poopsmith who said "Ohhh yeah!", there's a Fun Fact there that ties this occurrence together with [[different town]]. I believe that should suffice. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Everyone thought it was him, but Mr. Smith shook his head and shrugged, as if to say, "It wasn't me! I don't know who that was!"[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 19:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Did the Oh Yeah remind anyone else of the Kool-Aid Man's catchphrase? Before the Poopsmith was shown I thought that was who was speaking. Don't know if it's good enough to be a Real Life reference. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Now that you mention it, it does remind me of that! That would've been a perfect end to the email—the Kool-Aid Man busting through the concrete wall with his famous catchphrase; everyone staring at him agape as he sheepishly retreats a few moments later. With only the phrase though, it's probably a coincidence. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, it makes no sense as a reference. No one crashed through a wall. And they already had a refreshing punch available. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::If he did that, it would then become a Family Guy reference, as I've seen that exact same scene happen on Family Guy in about a brazillian animated .gifs on LiveJournal. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

There's no solid proof that it was the Poopsmith.
:Yes, that has been pointed out. Nobody is claiming that it definitely ''was'' the Poopsmith in this case. We're acknowledging that it was "very strongly suggested", but the whole point of the joke is that we didn't see it happen. So there's still some ambiguity there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::It could have easily been The Knight or The Blacksmith. We've never heard ''them'' speak! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps the voice was ventriloquism performed by David Coppafeel. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Even if he did speak, why really care? It's just a goofy site, and it was probably just a joke that didn't mean anything -Guest

:If you don't care, then why bother to post in this thread? But take a look around the wiki. You'll see we care about a great deal of minutia. It's actually quite fascinating, once you get the hang of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
The Poop Smith was sooo hiding it was him -im too lazy to login

I don't really see what the big deal is. The Poopsmith has the ability to speak, he just chooses not to; he's taken a vow of silence. This is probably why he tries to look like he didn't say anything. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Two words: Email Thunder.I rest my case — {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 21:19, 15 November (UTC)

== More than two prom...blems? ==

Current Fun Fact:

*Marzipan's comment "...every freakin' year...." implies that she has attended the senior prom more than once. Because it is typically the final dance in high school, most people only attend the senior prom once.

I edited this from another version that said "it seems implausible that she would have attended it more than once". I beg to differ: There are a few reasons why she could have. (1) She could have gotten held back and repeated <s>the third grade</s> her senior year multiple times. (2) She could have gone with Homestar in previous years (and he'd probably be more likely to get held back). And (3) She could have served some other purpose in previous years.

My point is, I don't think we have enough to go on to say why she'd be at the prom multiple years. But a lot of cartoons and comics run on the implication that the characters never age, and they repeat the same years of their lives each year (a 365-day version of Groundhog Day, or something). That seems plausible in the HR Universe as well. Thus, I think the Fun Fact should kinda gloss over the "implausibilities" and relate Marzipan's comment to the way it is in real life.

[[the show|And for the block, do you agree?]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: I agree. Also, Marzipan could have simply ''heard'' that pantless-Strong Bad won Prom Queen multiple years in a row or whatever happened. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

It makes more sense to me that they just all go to a senior prom every year. [[User:130.127.84.204|130.127.84.204]] 18:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't Marzipan's initial " as always, we're the only couple at the prom" comment lend further credence to the whole multiple prom hypothesis? [[User:85.65.116.80|85.65.116.80]] 00:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The thing is some schools let any students go to the prom. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:33, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

Another possibility is that, like in many cartoons, none of the characters age. This would allow for a senior prom every year. Also note that in many of the same cartoons (or comic strips), they can have "flashbacks" to x number of years ago, despite the fact that in reality they were the same age in that year as they are now. [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody everybody! Longest pants! ==

I would suggest that there definitely needs to be a reference regarding the ongoing pants/no-pants debate regarding Coach Z and Homestar. This seems to put the nail in the coffin that there are, in fact, no pants going on with either of them. Although (he realizes) it could also be argued that Coach Z wears a body suit, which doesn't technically have any stand-alone pants, which still leaves the door open for his "green-body/green body suit" ambiguity. (PS: Stand Alone Pants would be a great name for a rock band.)
:There's a reference to [[Homestar Runner's Pants|Homestar's Pants]] already on the page. That's where the debate is most fully explained. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Whether or not this is proof Homestar doesn't wear pants should be put up for a vote me thinks. The obvious argument for would be the fact that his pants didn't poof away at all and his discussion with pompom during the easteregg seemed to imply he was covering. The arguments against could be that Strong Bads remote malfunctioned, or perhaps Homestar wears pants that look exactly like his legs!

:::I like the "Maybe Homestar's pants look exactly like his legs" line of thinking. Another thought on Coach Z: how can one reliably say that he "puked his pants" and then have no pants disappear? On a personal note, two years ago, before finding this site, I never thought I would be this concerned about the existence of a cartoon character's pants.

::::For general [[Pants]], see [[Pants]]. (Would General Pants be a good name for a Cheat Commando?) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Better than "Firebert."
:::::Well, the fact that we didn't hear a poof or see a poof is enough evedince for me that Homestar is pantsless and not a long pants man.

::::::Right, it seems like Homestar is the only one around who seems convinced that he wears pants. Coach Z is still a bit of an issue, in my mind. As far as the [[Pants]] page is concerned, that's less an informational resource on the evidence for and against the various characters' pantsitudinal condition and more of a link to all the cartoons where someone simply mentions the word "pants." Since this is such a long-standing gag, it would be nice to see it expanded.

:::::::Every time recently that Homestar's pants have been mentioned, TBC present both sides, first suggesting one thing and then the other. (The same is true for Homestar's arms.) It is ''intentionally'' ambiguous. I wouldn't be surprised if TBC didn't even know the true nature of things. He's drawn that way just because it looks right to them. Trying to assert that he actually does or doesn't have pants (or, sheesh, ''voting here'' on the matter) would be futile. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::::Of course it's intentionally ambiguous. That's not in dispute. The location of Springfield on The Simpsons is intentionally ambiguous as well, not meant to have an actual answer, but it's still entertaining to look at a single body of evidence regarding all the clues to its location. Considering all the "pants/no pants" and even "arms/no arms" clues TBC have sprinkled throughout the life of this gag, am I the only one that would find it an entertaining resource to have all the data in one place?

:::::::::That's why we have articles like [[Homestar Runner's Pants|Homestar's Pants]] and [[Pants]]. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::: more pants!!!!{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thank Goodness! ==

I'ma just glad Strong Bad wore undawears this day. Thank you, thank you. Back to where I was! {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 18:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. I actually didn't realise that Strong Bad was the only one in the group that wears pants until now. Maybe Bubs too, but he wasn't in the shot. I can't imagine how Bubs would look pantsless.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 18:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: There's something I'd prefer not to think about... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::i blame this problem quite squarely on tight pants. yep, tight pants. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::''{shudders at the thought of Pantless Strong Bad or Pantless Bubs. They're not exactly Ms. America, are they?}'' {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hey, ummm, everybody?==

This wasn't really the senior prom. It all happens in the present, and evrybody was probably preforming for Strong Bad's little idea thing.
:See Joshua's comment above, about whether it was in SB's imagination or not. If it wasn't a canonical occurence, then we really can't trust anything that happens on H*R.com again. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Further more, why would everyone play this out for Strong Bad. Obviously, Marzipan wouldn't do anything for Strong Bad
:::She played Cutesy Buttons. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

:::Obviously they're playing their roles in 'Strong Bads Quite popular cartoon show' which is why he threw together that over-the-top opening scene with the "answering machine"
::::My two theories:
::::1. This is their SENIOR year and they did a large amount of growing up from whenever highschool took place.
::::2. The highschool e-mail was the fake thing (as said, doodle memory) and this is real. High School Strong Bad WAS in another universe, although so were Old-Timey, Stinkoman and Storybook Strong Bad, who we know take place in different parts of time. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

== All the Kingsmen ==

I know the band's name All the King's Men is more than likely a reference to the nursery rhyme Humpty Dumpty (which remarkably isn't in RWR). But it could also be a reference to the rock band "The Kingsmen", famous for their cover of "Louie Louie". [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:It sounds plausible to me - sort of like Before and After Puzzles on Wheel of Fortune. It would fit the situation, since that seems to be the cover band type. Do I detect a double meaning? {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 20:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Delilelia, you got me on my knees ==

What is up with the "Delilelia" easter egg? -[[User:Shnizzedy|Johnny Baby]] 20:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Since we missed the beginning of the email, that part's recapping what we missed. So we still have an email song and all that. {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 21:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::About that, is this the first SBEMAIL to feature the email song at the end??? {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 11:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I think so, but only because it was the first time we missed the song at the start. And it's [[morning routine|not the first time]] that the song has been sung somewhere other than the very start. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Jumping the Shark ==

Anyone else think that the way SB pronounced "Copperfield" was...ahem...risque?
Alex H.
:That was Marzipan, and someone says that ''every single frikking time'' someone in the 'toons mentions something even remotely sexual. People said the same thing when Strong Bad mentioned naked women in [[secret identity]], for instance. And it's no worse than [[3 Times Halloween Funjob|somebody a-gwabbin' Homestar's butt]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I'd like to see "Jumping the Shark" make its permanent home on the forums, personally. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd be willing to make a complainery type topic about this, if someone else would help find all the refs ([[Commandos in the Classroom]] comes to mind, but I dunno what else). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
How could anyone be offended by the way Copperfield is pronounced?
:1. You just resurrected a discussion from about a year ago. 
:2. The way "Copperfield" is pronounced made it sound like "Cop a feel." Which means, in essence "Making a grab for someone's privates." Get it now? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 21:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

== Astro-Sad ==

Would this be an inside refrence that Strong Sad was dressed as an astronaut in the sketch book?

:No, he was dressed as an astronaut because that was the prom theme. Everybody else was either too cool or too stupid to dress up though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I do think it's significant that Strong Sadonaut appeared in the Sketchbook prior to this cartoon, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Boxers or Briefs ==

The fun fact about SB saying he never wears underwear could still be true...some people consider "underwear" to mean briefs, but boxers as something else.

He wore briefs in [[nightlife]]

== Little Robot On Mars ==

Is that a refference to the "explorer" or whatever the heck that Mars Rover is called? You know the one we sent to mars to take pictures of the surface and its all the time getting stuck on rocks and crap?
: We're one step ahead of you: check Real-World References on the main page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== David Copperfield ==

It seems more likely that the reference to ''David Copperfield'' is from the [http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copperfield_%28novel%29 very famous book] by Dickens than the illusionist. Certainly, the latter probably takes his name from the former (though it could be a coincidence) so unless there is a specific reason why it would be the illusionist over the book, it seems like the reference should be cataloged as being to the book and not the person (or, at least, both the book and the person). --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 06:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:While I agree that the book is more famous than the illusionist, I'd imagine it would be hard for Strong Bad to take Delilelia to see [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (novel)|David Copperfield the novel]] perform. [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (illusionist)|David Copperfield the illusionist]] is more of a performer. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

::Brilliantly said!

== Old Folks Cafeteria ==

Could the "All You Can Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria" refer to Hometown Buffet or some similar establishment? {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Clearly it does - so clearly, in fact, that it's the joke and needs no comment. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::Apparently not as clearly as you think--because I have no idea what you're talking about ^^;;; what is the "Hometown Buffet"? Mayhaps this is some kind of regional custom/establishment that we don't have here in the northeast? --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 16:12, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Granny's Buffet is a more national chain, or Old Country Buffet, but the poin is that anyone can tell the kind of place he means, and that's the joke. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 20:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== KOT's Cartoon Show ==
Was anyone else disappointed when the KOTs cartoon show was interrupted for the Strong Bad e-mail? I was like "Hey a KOT cartoon? YES! There hasn't been one since 'The King of Town DVD'" Then I was like "awwwwe man!" when it was interrupted. I had high hopes, I always like to see the so-called reject characters (KOT, Strong Sad, Homsar) get together once in awhile. Though don't get me wrong I had worries E-mail #150 would be the last. Worries which were finally put to rest. Thank god.
:I was as well. Personally, I think the KOT is always consistently funny -- "Butter-da" and "stuffinged ham" still cracks me up -- and I went through the same emotional cycle as thee. "Cool! Aww..." And since I didn't think this was a particularly strong SBemail, it made for a double dose of disappointment. It's a shame the KOT keeps getting dumped on as being unpopular. He's got a hell of a lot more humor potential than the Poopsmith.
::I was a bit disappointed at first, but the fun of a good Marzipan appearance made up for it. She's been absent-ish lately, but today she got a major role and a neat new hairstyle! :)
:::YES! I'll get that announcer that intteruppted it if it's the last thing I doooooooooooo!!!!

== Back to the Future? ==

This whole Prom remindeth moi of the "Enchantment Under the Sea" Theme of the dance from the ''Back to the Future'' series and All the King's Men's suits are reminiscent of Marvin Berry and the Starlighters'. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 15:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Apparently, someone else thought the same thing, as that's already in the article. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::Dang! you beat me to it Elvis. It's kind of nice seeeing something.... Back to the Future related, seems its my favorite movie..... hmmmmm.....[[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]

== Who is David Coppafeel? ==

I wonder who was responsible for violating Marzipan. I'm guessing Strong Mad, for the following reasons: (1) he was standing next to Marzipan with his hands up when the lights came back on, (2) he has been known to [[:Image:Mysfit-steries.PNG|violate Marzipan]] in the past (though this was later fixed by TBC), and (3) he's stupid/clumsy enough that it could have been an accident. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Just in case it's Homestar, it has been noted on [[Lack of Visible Arms]] (with some wording that indicates it might not be notable). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:Aw, come ON! You know that [[:Image:Mysfit-steries.PNG|''that'']] was a glitch and you...know...it. Now I'm'a gonna a-go gets a-a peanut-a-butter-a-sandwhitch. -Alex H. {{unsigned|68.248.144.179|12:12, 24 May 2006}}

== Mars rover ==

Someone deleted my STUFF'D Mars Rover entry?? Why? I thought i used all the templates right! (im ccool2ax, cant login right now)
:There's already a fact about the Mars rover in the real-world references section. That's why the STUFF was deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::It's required by law that you log in before STUFFing anyway. Well, maybe not law, but our own standards, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:07, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Of course, that rule doesn't have much bearing here, since he [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:STUFF/senior_prom&diff=prev&oldid=319505 was logged in] at the time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. Well, in that case... never mind. Pay no attention to the man behind the keyboard. These are not the sysops you seek. Uh... yeah. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Also, there's really not much else this "robot on Mars" could refer to, considering Spirit and Opportunity are the only ones up there... or at least, the only ones getting any press coverage. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, but you forgot Soverjouiner! It's on Mars too!

== Coppin' a feel? ==

Is it possible that someone "a-Grabbin' mah butt" as homestar aptly put it, or "David Coppafeel"...ing... as marzipan put it a recurring joke of some kind? They both happened after the lights go out in an unexplicable manner, and, to my knowledge, these are the only two instances of blackouts Throughout the site. Anyone else think this? {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 21:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:''See [[Talk:Running_Gags#Coppin.27_a_feel.3F|Talk:Running Gags → Coppin' a feel?]]''

== Walrus Association ==

An inside reference claiming that the Walrus Association Easter egg is a reference to the Certified Arborist Easter egg from [[other days#Easter Eggs|other days]] was removed, on the grounds that "a repeated joke does not equal a reference" (paraphrase). However, I have compiled a list of reasons that lead me to believe that it is a reference, and a pretty clear reference at that. Athough I admit some of these are glaringly obvious, I feel I have the need to point them out.

*They are both Easter eggs (told you some of these were obvious)
*They are both business cards
*They are both jokes formed from the emailer's state abbreviation
*They are both accesed by clicking on the state abbreviation
*They both have a pair of images on the sides of the card
*They both have a 555 phone number followed by a 4-letter abbreviation pertaining to the business (TUSQ and [[Wikipedia:Xylem|XYLM]])
*They both list a mobile phone number as "coming soon" (or, in the Walrus card, "gimme about a week or so").
*They both have a quote/motto at the bottom pertaining to the business

and here's the giveaway...

*'''''They both use the same font.'''''

Also, I have searched the wiki and found no other business card formatted in this manner.

{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:Agreed, this is more than a repeat appearance... I think make it a inside reference, and if it happens a third time make it a running gag (like the [[Beverly Sportsinterviews]] books). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Well... next time, say what you mean. The only thing I hate more than vagueness is... some other thing. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::i hate that...{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Summary/Relevance ==

Really, folks. The KOT's show is so minor to the plot (and such a delightful surprise) that including it in the summary of this 4:00+ email is kinda idiotic, IMO. If we're summarizing ''The Princess Bride'' in a sentence or two, Peter Falk and Fred Savage wouldn't get a mention. Same should go here. Rather than add it back in, please present an argument for its inclusion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:Because many users were led to believe it was what the toon was about. For The Brothers Chaps to go so far as to change the URL and main page message, it's a pretty big part of the email and makes it unique. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Agreed. It was a huge gag. I don't think anyone who went into that toon blind would have thought that a SBemail was on the way. Just because in retrospect it seems weirdly random doesn't mean that it wasn't important at that time. And come on, Fred Savage constantly interrupting Peter Falk's reading of the book? That was a pretty funny part of the story. "She doesn't get eaten by the eels at this time..."
::: Also agreed. I'ma put it back. Again. There's just something that strikes me as very funny about the strikethrough (on the wiki) and the way it picks up with Strong Bad in mid-sentence (on the official site). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
::::NO PETER FALK!!!!! wt* {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Wait. I agree that was a great part of the story. My point was that if you're encapsulating it in a sentence or two, that's a detail you're likely not to mention in favor of the story of the characters in the tale. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think striking out a sentence makes the article unprofessional at all. On the contrary, I think it perfectly highlights the abrupt change in the course of the toon, and it recognizes the unique nature of how the email was promoted; namely, TBC announced it as a KoT toon, so we should incorporate that into the description at the top. The strikethrough is just a nice, humerous touch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. Although I deleted the <s>struckthrough</s> part without having read this discussion, with an edit summary to which It's dot com's referring about it looking funny, I don't particularly feel strongly about it. And like I said, it's clever. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== This is not... America... (no!) ==

:*In the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]], a senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school.

I'm Canadian, and our senior proms are pretty much the same thing. Not every region uses the term "senior", but the "prom" thing is universal in every province. I won't edit until we get more information, since "In the United States and Canada" seems too bulky, but "In North America" might not be accurate since I don't know if Mexican schools do the same thing. Perhaps a bit more research is called for. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know where in Canada you're from, Ugliness Man, but I've never heard anyone use the word "prom" (except as an affectation). "Grad" is the much more common Canadian term, at least in my opinion. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 19:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:I've lived in Ontario and Prince Edward Island. I've only known "grad" in that context to refer to some non-formal or semi-formal end-of-year event, usually the night of the graduation ceremony, or less than a week beforehand, and is also sometimes called "safe grad" because it is a supervised event where drugs and alcohol are strictly forbidden. On the other hand, the "prom" usually happens at least a month before grad. In fact, I've never been to a high school that ''didn't'' have a prom. Obviously it's a matter of different people having different experiences, but the point still stands that the prom is not a USA-only occurance by any stretch, considering I've been to 3 proms (and 5 Christmas proms) and I've lived in Canada my whole life. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::From your experience, are Canadian proms typically intended for seniors, or for all classes? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::The "regular" prom is open only to the graduates and their guests (in other words, any graduate going out with someone not graduating that year is allowed to bring them). I suppose this would make the term "senior prom" redundant. Then again, we rarely use the term "senior" anyway, students are referred to by what grade they're in. It's apocryphal, but just for the sake of full disclosure, the Christmas prom is open to all students. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia's article on [[Wikipedia:Prom|proms]]:

<blockquote>In the '''United States''', a '''prom''', short for promenade, is a formal dance held at the end of the years of high school and college, called junior prom and senior prom respectively. In British English such an event would be called a ball, although in '''Canada''', Australia and New Zealand it is also often called a '''formal'''.</blockquote>

:(Emphasis added) Please know that I am not from Canada, so I do not have firsthand knowledge about this.
:{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::That's rather odd... I've lived in 2 Canadian provinces and my ex-wife has lived in 4, and neither of us have heard the term "formal" used like in that context. Every such dance has been called a "prom" or "senior prom" (and in some places there's a Christmas prom, but that's another story). I think when I'm more awake I'll take a nip over to the Wikipedia article and see what their source is for that information. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::I'm sure that there are other countries in the world that have senior proms, but I think the fact can stay written as it is. The current wording does not preclude the existence of senior proms in other countries; also, both TBC and Free Country are in the USA. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::I disagree. Leaving it stated as it is suggests that the prom is a USA-only event. I feel that it should either be changed to include countries other than the USA, or changed to remove the reference to any specific country. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::How's 'bout:
:::*A senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school, chiefly in the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]].
:::::Though we had a junior prom, but that's irrelevent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::That's a fair compromise to me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== "Koo koo ka-choo" (Bless You) ==

The phrase "Koo koo ka-choo" is also from Simon and Garfunkel's "Mrs. Robinson".
: That's nice. However, the "Goo goo ga-joob" reference in "I Am the '''Walrus'''" is more relevant to a '''Walrus''' Association, is it not? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::198.107.27.252: Yup, Simon and Garfunkel took it from the Beatles. A few other people have too, if I remember correctly. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::True. They were both 1967 songs, so I'm not sure which was written first (I'm inclined to guess that the S&G song is actually referring to "I am the Walrus", since it features other pop culture references. Also, this was a time of great "inspiration" for The BeatLeS D). At any rate, the Walrus Association definitely ties it to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::just wondering, do either of these actually have any connection to reality?{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::"[[Wikipedia:I am the Walrus|I am the Walrus]]" intentionally has no meaning:

<blockquote>
Lennon received a letter from a pupil of Quarry Bank Grammar School, which he had attended as a child. The writer mentioned that their English master was making his class analyze Beatles' song lyrics. (John wrote an answer to the letter, dated September 1, 1967, which was auctioned by Christie's of London in 1992).
 Lennon, amused that a teacher was putting that much effort into understanding Beatles lyrics, decided to write the most confusing, unusual lyric he could.
 ...
 Upon finishing the lyrics, Lennon remarked to Shotton, "Let [them] work that one out."
</blockquote>

:::::"Mrs Robinson" has much more to do with reality, as several lines relate to the movie "The Graduate", in which the song debuted. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, but this line still is meaningless there. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That's right—its meaning is simply to refer to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== still saving the last one... ==

i would just like to say that i am personally gratefull that we are still saving the last email for strongbad. that wait was somewhat scary. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== nebulon style reference. ==

this aint enough to make it to the arcticle style page, but nebulon and style are mentioned in this email. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:51, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Caption ==

Can we stop the edit war and discuss captions here? Thanks so much. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, please, let's do so. Now, the person who has been removing the quote has argued that it shouldn't be there because Marzipan, who says the quote, is not in the picture. I don't find this argument convincing. I don't think a quote has to line up ''exactly'' with the image as long as its connection with the image is clear. And here, I think the connection is indeed clear: what happens in the image ''is'' what happens every year. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:50, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::Well, Mr. Läufer, it DOESN'T happen every year, because some schools (my alma mater included) don't have prom kings and queens. The connection with the image wasn't clear, IMO, at all. Therefore, it didn't fit. (And I didn't find your grammar police edits to be convincing enough, yet you made them anyway, although a lot of them were unnecessary.) --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::All right, ISlayedTheKerrek, this is not the place for you to be discussing your grievances with my editing. Concerning the issue at hand: I still think the connection between image and caption is in fact clear enough, and, as two people have reverted to this caption, I suggest that it should stay this way. Unless others object, I would say that consensus favors the "Every freakin' year" caption. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 15:55, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

== Peep: worth a fun fact? ==

I noticed the inclusion of "summat" as a real-world reference, which made me wonder if including a similar item for the rap term [http://www.rapdict.org/Peep peep] was worth one as well, esp. since TBC use a lot of hip-hop lingo. Is it too widely known? | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== Spelling of imaginary girlfriend ==

"* In this email, Strong Bad's [[Strong Bad's Ladies|imaginary girlfriend's]] name is spelled "Delilelia". However, in the following [[Quote of the Week#QW-2006-05-04|Quote of the Week]], it was spelled "Delelilia"."

Uhh, isn't the QotW an outtake? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 06:17, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
*I STUFF'd it, since I got no response here. <homestarrunner> Boo. </homestarrunner> :( [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 02:58, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== Promstar Talker ==

The part about Pom-Pom and Strong Bad getting voted Prom King and Queen reminds me of the Homestar Talker -- "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad are totally going out"
:Although they never specifically say what they're going out to do. Maybe they're just going to the 7-11 for a quart of milk...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== What! No Undawares! ==
Is it just me or does the comment about strong bad saying that he doesn't wear underwear useless? I mean, if I were to make everyone's pants (including my own) disappear, I would definately wear something underneath. It's just common sense... {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 22:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
:Strong Bad obviously didn't think this thing through very well. He was going to mass-pants everyone, but presumably anyone wanting to do such a thing (and who has half a brain) would either make it so their own pants weren't affected, or he wouldn't wear pants in the first place. But Strong Bad isn't known to think very far ahead when it comes to practical jokes and pranks, and obviously his mass-pantsing backfired in a way he didn't expect. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:08, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

== Oh yeah! ==
That low-pitched "Oh yeah!" that the Poopsmith shouts sort of reminds me of that stupid Yello song of the same name. It's associated with a high school movie (Ferris Bueller's Day Off) so it would sort of fit with the e-mail's prom theme. Do you think it might count as a real world reference?[[User:Old Timey Me|Old Timey Me]] 23:56, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
:Nope. Yello's "Oh Yeah!" is very different in pitch, and the style of the "Oh yeah!" in this toon is very common to the kind of music they used here. The band seems to be much more a reference to Back to the Future than Ferris Bueller, and there is already a ref up to BTTF. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== Koo koo ka choo... but not ==

''I Am the Walrus'' by the Beatles clearly says "Goo goo ga joob." "Koo koo ka choo" is from ''Mrs. Robinson'' by Simon and Garfunkel, released a month later (coincidence? Not likely). So that's why it says "or summat." By the way, the only other place I've ever heard the word "summat" is when Hagrid from Harry Potter says it. Is it a British slang word? If so, that's probably a reference to The Beatles. Did it possibly originate in Liverpool? If so, that's an unmistakable allusion. [[User:Uh...Cwapface|Uh...Cwapface]] 03:39, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it's a British slang word. I see it pretty often. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

:First of all, the phrases "goo goo ga joob" and "koo koo ka choo" are both total nonsense. Since neither of them contain any actual words, the debate of which one of the two was "actually" said in the Beatles song is almost a moot point, unless someone can provide a scan of the lyrics sheet of a Beatles' album liner notes, or some other reliable source (99% of all lyrics websites on the 'net are user generated and ''not'' reliable soures). Also keep in mind that the song is mixed oddly, and there's an intentional distortion to it that sort of mimmicks poor sound quality. As such, sublte differences between k's and g's can easily be lost.
:Second, even if there's some definitive way to "prove" which nonsense phrase was said in the Beatles song, I don't think it qualifies as a [[Wikipedia:Mondegreen|mondegreen]]. A real mondegreen is when words are mis-heard as other words, such as cross I bear/cross-eyed bear from "You Oughta Know". In other words, the meaning is changed, usually resulting in humorous misunderstandings. The difference between "goo" and "koo" in this context is irrelevant, since they both mean the same thing (nothing). It's like if two different people transcribed Ella Fitzgerald scatting from an old 78, and then they debated over wether then 14th syllable was "tweeeee" or "dreeeee".
:I'll leave it to someone else to edit, since I'm not always good at rephrasing stuff, but I hope that someone can resolve this one way or the other. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 19:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

== Very UNpopular cartoon show ==
The quick voiceover sounds like "The King of Town's Very Unpopular Cartoon Show will not be seen this week" rather than "The King of Town's Very Own Popular Cartoon Show will not be seen this week".
Of course because it is so fast one could easily get it wrong. --[[:Xifihas|Xifihas:]]
:Well, we say it's "own", since that matches the text that appears. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yes but the KOT is a very UNpopular character. --[[:Xifihas|Xifihas:]]
:::I think this is intentionally ambiguous so that people can draw their own conclusions. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:36, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Where Plan? ==
Strong Bad never told us where he'll poof the pants to? You can guess!

:I'm wondering if the pants poofing is a reference to 80's teen movies like Screwballs where a group of nerds crash a prom to use a clothes removal device on the prom queen and anyone else in the vicinity.

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
===Coppafeel?===
{{stufffact|Marzipan's admonition to "watch those hands, David Coppafeel" is a reference to "copping a feel", which means to "surreptitiously fondle someone in a sexual manner".}}
{{stuffverdict|02:17, 13 May 2006 (UTC)|20:25, 27 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|21|8|senior prom}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Strong Bad and Delilah ===
{{stufffact|In this email, Strong Bad's imaginary girlfriend's name is spelled "Delilelia". However, in the following Quote of the Week, it was spelled "Delelilia".}}
{{stuffverdict|02:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)|23:29, 22 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhemingly accepted|18|3|senior prom}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== It might be a common phrase, see? ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's remark, "It's a mass pantsing, see?" is an example of stereotypical "mobster speech", which was popularized by [[Wikipedia:Edward G. Robinson|Edward G. Robinson]] in the movie [[Wikipedia:Little Caesar|Little Caesar]].}}
{{stuffverdict|21:47, 6 May 2006 (UTC)|23:29, 22 May 2006 (UTC)|revised and then overwhelmingly accepted|15|1|senior prom}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Are you guys having a killer time? ===
{{stufffact|"Strong Sad and Deborah" may be a reference to Napoleon Dynamite, in which Deborah is a main character who goes to a dance.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)|02:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|20|1|senior prom}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Save the last dance for me... again ===
{{stufffact|Marzipan's comment "...every freakin' year...." implies that she has attended the senior prom more than once. Because it is typically the final dance in high school, most people only attend the senior prom once.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)|02:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|24|7|senior prom}}

== Will and Grace and John and Lyle ==

This fact was added to the page:
<blockquote>
The phrase "David Coppafeel" was used in an episode of [[Wikipedia:Will and Grace|Will and Grace]] guest starring John Cleese as Lyle Finster. The line was said by Karen Walker (Megan Mullally).
</blockquote>
So I did a little search and found out that John Cleese played as Lyle in [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000092/filmoseries#tt0157246 several episodes], all of them in 2003-04. The toon was released in 2006. A reference or coincidence? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
:Well, after a bit more research i also found the episode: [http://www.durfee.net/will/scripts/s0611.htm The Accidental Tsuris]. The line is spoken just at the beggining of the episode, and as far as I can tell there's no proms and blackouts involved. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:37, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

== Listerine ==

I'm not sure if this should go within the email's transcript, or under a different heading, but I thought I'd point out that the reason Homestar bends over and kicks his foot backwards (and has his cheeks puffed out) during Strong Bad's acceptance speech is because he still has the Listerine in his mouth, and his mouth is going all tingley. I noticed that the transcript just mentions the bending and kicking. Is the joke obvious enough that it doesn't need to be included here, or does anyone think it should be added? [[User:Shanked battleship|Shanked battleship]] 18:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

== Fact Removal ==

Removed "Coach Z's tie bending upwards in the scene where he spikes the punch is a reference to Dilbert, the main character of a popular comic strip by Scott Adams. His tie always curved upwards in the same fashion", because Coach Z's false shirt-front is not a tie, nor is its rigidity a Dilbert reference. --[[User:Proxtown|Proxtown]] 01:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

== The redirects ==

In my opinion, the redirects for [[The King of Town's Very Own Quite Popular Cartoon Show]], [[The King of Town's Very Own Popular Cartoon Show]], [[The King of Town's Very Own Popular Cartoon]], and [[The King Of Town's Very Own Quite Popular Cartoon Show]] are better suited to [[KOT's VOQPCS!]] so I have taked the liberty of changing them. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

== Email Song Easter Egg = 2 Many Knives? ==

Has anyone else noticed that the rhythm of Strong Bad's 'e-mail styles' song is very similar to the "Kids don't play wit 2 many knives" line in 'A very important rap song'? I'm not a member, so I don't know how to edit for all the tags and such. Sorry.
[[User:74.114.133.55|74.114.133.55]] 10:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC) Shard

== Bubs? ==

Ummm... Doesn't Bubs wear pants? He has the different color area near his legs... {{unsigned|76.120.82.192|20:56, 16 July 2008}}

:Bubs wasn't there. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 02:19, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

::But he says, "I'm the only one who wears any pants..." --[[Special:Contributions/76.120.82.192|76.120.82.192]] 02:17, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:::So what? He meant of those there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:19, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Also, Strong Sad wears pants, and he was there. He talks to Coach Z. --[[Special:Contributions/66.165.5.181|66.165.5.181]] 20:04, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:They were under his space suit. further, the case can be made that everyone just has bottom sections on colors (similar to the question of homestar's pants) the only one whose pants are crealy defined as pants is SB. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

And what about the Poopsmith? He's got pants. --[[Special:Contributions/76.120.82.192|76.120.82.192]] 15:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
:No, they don't. Strong Sad and The Poopsmith don't wear pants. The Poopsmith's got an orange oval for a body and two thin blue legs. No pants, no trousers, no knickers. In [[Strong Sad's Lament]], he types "I kinda don't wear clothes" (with possibly the exception of [[The Blue Ones]]). {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:12, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Strong Bad

Jibblejibblejibble — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 23:10:38 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/2 weeks? TEETH??

Talk:licensed

Jibblejibblejibble — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:57:14 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Twice? */

== What's new link ==
Dunno what i cans do about it, but the link to the sbemail is broked. It links to sbemail.190.html (that is, there's an extra dot). Someone with the privilege needs to fix this right quick. [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 06:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:Nvm. Fixed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
== Blackhead-Flaced Janice ==
Should it be pointed out that Blackhead-Flaced Janice is a joke on the misspelling of Pilmple-faced Bill? Is it possible to over-"over-analyze"?
:Give the [[HRWiki:Standards]] a read. I'd say this qualifies as both obvious and explaining the joke. So... no. [[User:64.198.255.1|64.198.255.1]] 20:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Homestar's Song ==

although it's similar, the song homestar's singing isn't the one from [[anything]] and [[the paper]]. that one comes from "never-ending story", but this one is different. i don't know where it's from, but i'm still deleting that inside reference. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 07:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:I'm considering the "Sail Away, Sail Away, Sail Away" part of [[Wikipedia:Orinoco Flow|Orinoco Flow]] by [[Wikipedia:Enya|Enya]]? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::i can see what you're coming from, but he says the line 4 times instead of three, so i'm guessing it's something else. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 08:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::It reminds me more of the Hot Hot Heat song [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdk8J1OOiJA Bandages], but again he says it four times instead of three. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:47, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Sounds a lot like [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBn-BpkNsA "Walking on Broken Glass"] by Annie Lennox [[User:Havl|Havl]] 20:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::That's really not how the song goes at all.[[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 00:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:It sounds to me like the Flintstone kids theme. "Yabba dab yabba dab yabba dabba do" [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scpjpz3ReMI FSK]
::Well, apparently, if everyone thinks it's something different, it has to be TTATOT.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Not necessarily, because it's possible that all but one of those people are wrong. :)
::::Just to clarify: the song Homestar sings in [[anything]] is the same tune as the themesong from The Neverending Story; that's an objective fact that can be demonstrated by anyone who knows musical notation. If a bunch of people came in saying "I think it sounds like the theme from Night Court!" and "No, it's totally 'Yesterday' by the Beatles!" and "Wait, I could swear I heard that tune in a Bach fugue somewhere" and "Are you sure it isn't from Merzbow's new album?", that wouldn't make it TTATOT. It would still actually be a reference to The Neverending Story, and all those other people would just be wrong.
:::::No, it's not the same. It's starts the same, but the end is different enough to make it obviously not the same.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 08:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I think you misread me. I'm talking about the song in [[anything]] ("The neverending soda"), not the one in [[licensed]]. I was using it as an example of a clear, indisputible reference, to make a more general point about the definition of "TTATOT." This new one isn't a clear, indisputible reference to anything I've heard, although obviously I haven't heard everything.
:::I agree with the Flintstones Kids theme. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::There are a lot of unsigned posts here, but I am making the judgement that this is a TTATOT connection, and unless a really positive match arises for this to be a parody of, it's not anything. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think the above people are onto something with the Flintstones Kids theme. For those who have knocked it, to clarify: this is referring to the 90's cartoon show, not the vitamin jingle, which is nothing alike. The idea's not too far-fetched, and we ''know'' TBC have heard of it from the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|TGS 7]] commentary. Shall maybe everyone give it a listen to be sure? I'm pulling it out of a decade-old memory here, avoiding listening to the link, and I think it's a fair match. Should they be doing it from memory, like I am, isn't a teeny bit of off-keyness expected? Plus, I mean...it's Homestar. He's flat allthedang time. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 14:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::: Yes, it sounds sort of kind of almost like the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xomL0HKwS0k Flintstone Kids] theme song, but it sounds as much like everything else mentioned above. I vote for TTATOT. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 14:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::The most convincing thing here is "walking on broken glass" which i have never heard, so i don't know if it sounds like it or not, but makes sense as it's ABOUT broken glass... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Check it out. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBn-BpkNsA "Walking on Broken Glass"] [[User:Havl|Havl]] 18:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I have to go with "Walking on Broken Glass," too. Yes, the tune HR sings has similarities to other tunes as well (which can't really be avoided, it's essentially "three notes, pause, three notes, pause, etc)", taking the subject matter of that song into account, it'd be too big of a coincidence to ignore, imo. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 22:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::But "Walking on Broken Glass" goes note, up a note, down a note (ie, same as the first). Homestar's song goes note, note, down a half note (except for the first "Broken glass" which admittedly has almost the same pattern, ie note, up a note, down a half note). [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I agree that it's not exactly the same, which is why I'm actually more hesitant than my first post makes me out to be, looking at it again. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 03:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Juys. I'm that age where I know all these tunes. It's not any of them. At all. Trust me. I cannot yet divine what, if anything, that tune refers to. (Are you aware I perform and figure out songs professionally?) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::your job is to figure out what songs are being lampooned by others? huh. at any rate, no, i don't think most people were aware. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 05:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::...The Tom and Jerry Show... [[Special:Contributions/173.32.221.240|173.32.221.240]] 19:25, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

=="Human noses?"==

Does Strong Bad imply that he is not human? Has this ever happened before?
:I was wondering about that myself. I know it was in a quick joke, and may not hold a lot of weight, but I think something like whether or not you're human isn't something that you casually contradict in a joke with out paying attention. You wouldn't say "It looks just like me except with a human nose" even as a joke, unless it was already given that you weren't human, or at least weren't considered human.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 08:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::well, no matter how you look at it, he ''doesn't'' have a human nose, just like how homestar and the like don't have arms or pants, and those are mentioned all the time, too. i don't think it has much bearing on ''what'' anybody is. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 08:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Except he said "human nose". It would have been just like Homestar's arms if he just said "nose". The humor in that, just like the humor in [[fingers]] is adding something to him that he should have but obviously doesn't. It's the same way with the word human. The humor in adding a human nose to him is that he has no nose and he's not human.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 09:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Naw, i agree with Neumannz, it's not notable beyond his lack of a visible one, whether he said human or not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 09:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think that "human" here was intended to mean "realistic". These are not cartoon noses, or animal noses. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm with E.L. Cool on this one. I definitely think he meant shaped noses, with nostrils and a bridge and all that good stuff, as opposed to a simple little ball nose, like the one Stro Bro has on the side of the Puddin' Patch. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I think this joke has been referenced in [[alternate universe]] before. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 15:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

TBC have frequently referred to the h*r characters as "funny animal characters." --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] [[User:Lelila|lelila]] [[User_talk:Lelila|(talk)]] 22:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

== A mousy description? / Coach Z can't talk. ==

First, I'm not sure about that description of the Cheat's mural picture. His pudginess and distinctive, if unlabelled, jar of Hunny seem to suggest Winnie the Pooh to me. (The antennae, obviously, are out of place.)

Second, does Coach Z say "You're toys" or "You're twice"? I definitely heard the latter, which I can imagine him saying because he's weird, but the former makes sense too. Any thoughts? -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:yeah, i hear "twice" ---[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 16:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::I originally heard it as "toys" (and put it that way in the subtitles), but it now seems closer to "twice", even with Coach Z's accent. [[User:ZanderSchubert|ZanderSchubert]] 23:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I heard"toys" or "twoise". [[User:Justin Master of Nature|[[User:Justin Master of Nature|Master of Nature]]]] 19:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:"Twice" would make a lot of sense, as there are two Strong Bads in the room. One is, admittedly, a pinata.

== Shut up, lady! ==

Have this voice and Strong Bad's response appeared enough times now for us to consider it a running gag? I know it occurred in [[bottom 10]], and I think one other...though I wouldn't swear to it. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:as noted in inside references, the second one was [[your funeral]]. i don't know enough about the rules of running gags to say whether this should be considered one. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 16:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

: I think "Shut up, Lady" should be considered a running gag. Three instances have warranted others to be added if my memory serves my correctly. The fact we've seen it in 3 toons set far apart from each other tells me that TBC find it funny and would add it into future toons. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::Ummm, it is. It's [[Shut Up, Lady|here]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 17:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh... so it is. Uh, well... I'll... sports team. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bubs' Merchandise ==
<s>Doesn't</s> Isn't Bubs selling a Strong Bad beanie cap? Should that go into teh "fun facts" section? —[[User:SpazZataKc|SpazZataKc]]

Yeah. it should. -Coleslaw

Looks like the fourth item he's selling is The Cheat-shaped Post-It notes... see also [[secret recipes]]... [[User:Agnamaracs|Agnamaracs]] 22:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Gunkistan? ==

Why got the Facts about Gunkistan being a portmanteau and a inside reference to Gunk Iller deleted?

:It may be because they're wrong...The portmanteau is less obviously incorrect, but technically -stan and is a suffix, a word in some language (Arabic) meaning "land," which is why it's used at the end of so many countries (Afghanistan = Land of the Afghanis, Kazakhstan = Land of the Kazakhs, etc.). This would make it not a portmanteau. As for the other one, being a reference to the Gunk Iller, I see no reason why this was up there in the first place. Gunk is a very common term for any gross, ambiguous substance.

::I disagree with you on the portmanteau subject. if you look at the [[Portmanteaus]] page you'll notice "Millionzoic", "Tenthennial" and "Geographist", all words with a general suffix. Gunkistan should be there too. Maybe I was a little off by saying that it's in particular park Pakistan, but that's the only country that have the letter K to form -kistan (Gun-Kistan). I'm not readding it still so it won't start to be and edit war, but I think it should be discussed. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:::What about Kyrkistan? And almost Kazakhstan... [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Ok, there's no Kyrkistan, but [[Wikipedia:-stan#Countries|there are]] Tajikistan and Uzbekistan as countries (as well as some made up ones in the section below). Is anyone else objecting to this fun fact? It's not TTATOT because of the many countries, but it's a reference to -stan in general. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

:::::There is no Kyrkistan???? I dont know but this country I am sitting in had a big sign at the Airport...Welcom to Kyrkistan. Got a beautiful view of the Himilayas, nice weather. But if you say so, I will roll with it. Just what country am I in?
::::::Your ISP is in Kyrgyzstan. That does sound pretty similar to "Kyrkistan", I have to admit ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:02, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

== Old Lady ==

Now that the Old Lady made a third appearance, should we revive her page? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 16:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

We should if we have pages like [[Europa-pean Lobster]]. [[User:Tojo940|Tojo940]] 05:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

== Two things ==
1.) Are we sure Homestar is singing "broken glass?" because I heard "working class". 2.) Will the shady daycare be haunting anybody else's nightmares or just mine?

:"Working Class" makes no sense. The pinatas were filled with broken glass as evidenced by the multiple lacerations and shards on Homestar's face. Since Strong Bad asked Homestar to reveal what was contained there-in. In true Homestar way he sung it. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:1) definitely broken glass, 2) just yours --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 17:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:"Working Class" makes so much more sense that its more than a little surprising that someone would post it. The fact that they did it anonymously makes me wonder if it was another trollish post designed to incite an argument. Its a wonder that someone didn't call this person names. -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]
::there's still time for that --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bubs arms. ==

Has anyone noticed that Bubs arms are animated the same way they were in Nightlife and how Coach Z's were in Trogday 08?--{{User:Kirbychu HR'D/sig}} 20:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. It's a new style design. Individually drawn per frame. It seems to be the way things are done from now on. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::yeah, we're not worrying about mentioning it anymore, since it's become standard and it's under bub's evolution page --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Toucan Sam, Zazu, and Cinderella ==
[[Image:Toucans.png|thumb|fourcans]]
<blockquote>The cover of "Jungle Animals in Decidedly Non-Jungle Situations" has a variation of The Cheat similar to The Lion King (The Cheat resembles Zazu) and Toucan Sam, mascot of Froot Loops. The other is Cinderella.</blockquote> This is in desperate need of rewording, but first we need to decide what we're doing with it. It can't be Zazu and Toucan Sam. Isn't that TTATOT? I don't really think it's either. It's just a toucan. A random jungle animal. Also, are we sure the other DVD is a play on Cinderella? It seems likely, but not certain. But if so, it needs to be worded better.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:Or is it just generally agreed that it's pointless to mention any of that crap? I'm for that, too.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think the refernce to Zazu can go, but Toucan Sam should stay. The Cheat looks nothing like Zazu, beyond the blue color and big beak, nor does he look much like a real toucan, but the striped beak gives him a strinking resemlance to Toucan Sam. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 21:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, if it looks like anything, it's Sam.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 22:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::I think it's generic, but the overall feel is the lion king. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Zazu's not even a toucan. He's a hornbill. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Although the colours are in a slightly different order, there is a clear similarity between Toucan The Cheat and Toucan Sam. This was the first thing I thought when I saw the DVD case.{{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I agree, the colors, especially the black followed by the pink, are particularly reminiscent of Toucan Sam. That's definitely what I thought too. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 18:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Another one who thinks it looks like Toucan Sam. Follow your nose! [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bioshock Reference? ==

Does the singing child at the daycare remind anyone else of the 2nd little sister sighting in Bioshock? The little sister is heard singing a song to the same tune, in a very creepy way. The fact that they're both singing the same tune, both children and the fact that it is very creepy in both cases suggests a reference, no?

:Senor Cardgage is not a child. And it's a common kid's tune. And Senor is always creepy, so it might not be a reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

==Toys R Us==

I think I saw a Toys R Us reference. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:We,, you may or may not be correct about that. It would depend on what you saw, which I have no idea what it was.... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::The drawings on the building. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Ugly Bird ==

Anyone else think that Homestar calling the swollen, floating The Cheat an "Ugly Bird" is a reference to... um... the one other email (I forget which one) where Homestar called a swollen, floating The Cheat an "Ugly Bird?"
: Someone else sure does, thats why they mentioned it in the article: ''The Easter egg where Homestar sees The Cheat float by and thinks he's an ugly bird is a reference to helium. '' -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]

==Blood?==
Just wondering how blood is an "Inside Reference." You don't have to be a Homestar Runer fan to fully appreciate blood jokes. [[User:Catman87|Catman87]]
:Because blood is a recurring element/gag in some toons. The [[blood]] page ties all appearances of blood together in a list. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::Then shouldn't be called a "Running Gag" instead of a "Inside Reference?" [[User:Catman87|Catman87]]
:::It refers, within the Homestar Runner universe, to the "blood" running gag. Does that make it clearer? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== This is like the best sbemail in a long while ==

It's awesome and good and classic and this is the best Bubs appearance since lunch special ;0
:that is a very forum-esque comment for a Talk page, so let's keep that to a minumum --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== beanies ==

Aren't those strong bad beanies that Bubs has a real item in the store? I'd check myself but I'm far too lazy.--[[User:97.82.22.53|97.82.22.53]] 00:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yes they are (I own one), which is why it is mentioned in the article http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/licensed#Remarks [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Murdered person at the daycare? ==

What's with the outline of the person? It looked like a person had been murdered or something.
:mentioned on the [[Papa Cardgage's PUDDIN' PATCH]] page --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

It's just there too add a scary feeling to that daycare. -Coleslaw

==Disney DVDs==

The DVDs resemble Cinderella and The Lion King. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:One problem, however is that The Lion King does not feature non-jungle situations. I think "The Wild" would be a closer match. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::Someone suggested TaleSpin. Huh? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::No, it represents The Jungle Book. [[User:76.173.92.70|76.173.92.70]] 23:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::: Strong Bad makes it clear what these are and why they ''vaguely'' resemble Disney movies: "The ones that are slight variations of slightly animated kids' movies. The kind they put right next to the check-out line, so Grandma might accidentally mistake it for the real thing." When Disney releases an animated movie, knock-off companies rush their own ultracheap adaptations of the public domain source to the stores while the big budget version's still in theaters in order to get kids and grandmas to get all excited seeing "Aladdin" (or whatever) in the store and buy it. Go look at the cheap movie bin at a drugstore or the supermarket checkout racks sometime if you've never seen these. Not Bothering To Make An Account, 37:94 Forty-Terst Decembuary 20X8.
For reasons I can no longer remember, I originally thought the "4" in the title of the Cinderella parody was a reference to the fact Disney made a Cinderella 3 last year. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:Could be a reference to all the crappy sequals to old movies that they came out with for the past few years, cinderella 2 and 3 (and 4?) among them... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Strong Bad as a ''lion'' with a (king's?) ''crown'' makes me think it's supposed to be The Lion King. Of course, The Cheat looks a whole lot more like Toucan Sam than Zazu ... Maybe it's an amalgam of several things. (I certainly don't see TaleSpin, though!) The other definitely looks like Cinderella to me (though his dress reminds me more of Snow White's ...)--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:The TaleSpin thing is the desk, a reference to Sheer Khan's desk. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::That's wediculous. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:06, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
All this opinion on which real-world movie this is it, can only make you more understand the joke. The DVDs are almost one thing, but not quite the other. Almost like Cardgage's speech. Don't try to overthink what particular story is each DVD, or try to break it down to pieces and put each piece in the right movie. That's just the whole joke. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:As the article says (or said at one point, this cold makes me not bothering to check the page to see if it's still there), it's a reference to the slipshod animated features that two-bit companies come out with to coincide with Disney's feature film release dates. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Um, TaleSpin wasn't a Disney movie, it was a Disney tv show. but I digress. Anon, 20:50, 22 February 2008
:As Awexome said... huh? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:10, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::Because it has the word "jungle" in it, I thought it was The Jungle Book if it's not The Lion King. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:53, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

==Toothbrush==

Could someone explain the toothbrush? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:it's a novelty "sugar toothbrush" which i guess means it spins the sugary SB head against a kid's teeth --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

What's it supposed to be a parody of? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:What that description brings to my mind is those Cap Spin Pop devices that spin the little lollipops while they are licked. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::That's what I was thinking too. It's a lollipop, not a toothbrush. Evidence: electric toothbrushes don't spin like that, there is no evidence of bristles of any kind, it's extremely lollipop-shaped, and the usage of words like "rot the teeth out of" and "sugar". Also, given the other unlicensed merch (and unlicensed merch in general), a spinning lollipop fits much better than a toothbrush. As such, the explanation about novelty toothbrushes should either be reworded or outright destroyed. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Note also that he's talking specifically about unlicensed confections at that point (if we weren't already clear...). -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 04:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Broken-Glass Soda? ==

Anyone else find the Broken Glass/Ugly Bird song similar to the "Never-ending Soda" song from 'anything'?
:There is a thread above on this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

==Toothbrush description==

I think the toothbrush description is incomplete. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:I couldn't find a detailed enough link. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I think the toothbrush does something that isn't mentioned in its description. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:It would be much easier for most of us if you could try to be specific. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::Or better yet, add to the Fun Facts section whatever it is you think would make the description complete, and I'll try to tell you if it's true. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think the top comes off. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 03:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

== Homestar's Birthday ==

When Homestar says that it was "his best birthdays ever", does this mean that his birthday is on February 19? {{User:The Teach!/Twig}}
:You're assuming Homestar knows what he's talking about. This is not a safe assumption. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::So you're saying that he is so stupid that he doesn't even know whether it's really his birthday or not? {{User:The Teach!/Twig}}
::: Seeing as how he doesn't even know he's not wearing pants, yes, I am saying he's that stupid. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::he does know about the pants, it's just sometimes traumatic to think about it ([[long pants]]) --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 05:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::I says until they have a cartoon that specifically depicts his birthday, we can't really know. There's no guarantee that they had the party that day, or that the party was on the same day as his actual birthday, or, as aforementioned, that Homestar had any idea what he was talking about.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 06:18, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's like claiming that [[Nibbles|Nibbles']] birthday is on July 11 because that's the day [[bottom 10]] came out. The only birthdays we actually know are [[Happy Trogday|Trogdor's]] (Jan 13) and Stinkoman's (Jan 6). {{User:The Chort/sig}} 10:33, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::And, I suppose, [[cheatday|cheatday]]. --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] [[User:Lelila|lelila]] [[User_talk:Lelila|(talk)]] 04:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

==Guttenberg==
Project Guttenberg is an online library. I think this should be mentioned somewhere - Owen
:guttenberg is a common last name, and a city, and this that and the other thing. No connection. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::Guttenburg is a reference to the Guttenburg Bible. All other uses of it are also references to that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Which is, in turn, a reference to the man who made said bible, [[Wikipedia:Johannes Gutenberg|Johannes Gutenberg]]. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 05:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Which is also, in turn, a reference to the man's father. Moral of the story: unless there's a direct correlation between something and a common name, it's best not to make a reference to it. [[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 08:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::For what it's worth, when I first saw Guttenberg, I thought of [[Wikipedia:Steve Guttenberg|Steve Guttenberg]] ... So I agree. Not a specific reference to anything.--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

==Intro==

The intro sounds familiar. I'm thinking some kids show. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

==Disney==

Is Disney becoming a running gag now? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:Show me the other references. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

==Jungle Animal DVD==

The desk on the Jungle Animal DVD reminds me of Becky's desk from TaleSpin. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:look [[#Disney DVDs|up]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

== Beginning email song ==

It appears that Strongbad is singing to the tune of "I'm Gonna Wash That Man Right Out Of My Hair"
Can I get someone to second that? --[[User:68.166.201.226|68.166.201.226]] 23:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
: The first couple of notes sound like it, but not the rest of it. --[[User:97.82.22.53|97.82.22.53]] 01:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== My Gym Partner Is A Strong Bad ==

The "Jungle Animals in Non-Jungle Situations" thing reminds me heavily of the Cartoon Network show "My Gym Partner is a Monkey." Anyone else? (Oops, mistakenly put this as an edit rather than an addition.)

== Papa Cardgage ==

For the record, the song Frère Jacques and the song Where Is Thumbkin have the same tune, and judging from the lyrics, I think it was meant to be an allusion to Thumbkin, not Jacques :P

== Internet Connection ==

So... that shot from the back of Strong Bad's computer? Yeah, there's definitely no phone or ethernet line connected back there, nor is there any card in his PCMCIA slot (not that I'd think the lappy was wifi-capable, anyway...) so I can only assume Strong Bad is not actually connected to the Internet. I don't really think this is significant enough to be mentioned in the remarks section, but I thought I'd bring it up, anyway. --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] [[User:Lelila|lelila]] [[User_talk:Lelila|(talk)]] 22:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:It's especially not worth bringing up, as this [[Talk:isp#Lappy Back|isn't the first time we've seen the back of the Lappy]], either. Though I thought there was more discussion about his connection cables than that... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

== Daycares ==

Is it noteworthy to point out that the unlicensed-characters-in-daycares is a reference to how Disney started cracking down on people harmlessly having disney characters painted on their walls at daycares?
:What connection is there to that specific incident? None. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::[http://www.snopes.com/disney/wdco/daycare.asp What are you talking about, DeFender1031?] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:47, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

== Broken Glass ==

Although Bubs says the items in his coat (among which the pinata is visible) are safe, the pinata had broken glass in it. Is this worth mentioning? [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 19:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:I think that's worth a Remark. Do it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:41, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's explaining the joke, and a remark would kinda insult the reader's intelligence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I tried adding it, but it got removed. Do you think we should STUFF it? [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 17:20, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:I strongly feel it's unnecessary. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

== The Cheat's "hurried" noise ==

It seems to me that the way The Cheat sounded when rushing is unmistakably the same one used when he was flinged through the air by the Poopsmith in [[strong badathlon|email 165]]. Inside-References-worthy? --[[User:66.82.9.107|66.82.9.107]] 04:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

:Totally! But why hasn't anybody added that yet? I'll add it myself if no one else will. --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 15:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
::Because they reuse a lot of noises, a lot of times, so, not noteworthy. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:::It's been 364 days since the last post, and I want to say that this The Cheat sound was only used twice. Should it go in the Remarks section instead? I still don't care if it doesn't. --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 17:41, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== That's Not Candy! ===
{{stufffact|Although Bubs says the items in his coat (among which the piñata is visible) are safe, the piñata had broken glass in it.}}
{{stuffverdict|20:29, 8 March 2008 (UTC)|10:25, 19 March 2008 (UTC)|declined|15|5|licensed}}

== Released on Tuesday ==

When this email was first released, didn't Strong Bad reference that the email was released Tuesday night. I am guessing they have changed it but I remember him saying that. ---[[User:Lefaid]]
:Maybe you're thinking of [[yes, wrestling]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:Or [[ghosts]] (where he remarks on how it's not Monday)? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks it was it was [[yes, wrestling]] 9:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

== Math fact ==

Much like the possibility in #152 ([[isp]]), the number of this email is a multiple of #38 ([[helium]]), so do you think that would have something to do with the cheat puffing like a balloon?
:Like my [[Talk:isp#Math fact|response there]], i still have no idea what you are talking about. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
::Those things are most likely a coincidence, so they should not be mentioned in the article. As for your remark at [[Talk:isp]], when you wondered why 152/38=4, Strong Mad, the one affected by the helium, is the fourth character to appear in the email. Same goes for this email: 190/38=5, The Cheat is the fifth character to appear. If your going to do numerology, do it the right way ;) Still, it's just a coincidence. Also, please sign your posts (type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to do so.) {{User:The Commander IN COMMAND/sig}} 18:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== Disney??? ==

It never once even crossed my mind that the DVDs shown were based on Disney sequels as the fact currently states (I reverted an edit that expanded the "reference" thinking it ''added'' it, until I looked closer.) It looks more like the bad Disney ''knockoffs'' that sit near the checkout stand in many department stores, that almost always have the same (or similar) subject as contemporary Disney movies. That fits better with the context of the email's theme, too. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
:Agreed. It's got nothing to do with the disney sequels, and everything to do with the knockoffs. That's the point of this email in the fist place. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
::Should I baleete the whole fact or just the part about sequels? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 21:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
DeFender, can I ask you to make up your mind about the subject? [[#Disney DVDs|Earlier]], you said, "Could be a reference to all the crappy sequals...", but here you say, "It's got nothing to do with the disney sequels...", so I tried to remove it from the Wiki's [[Disney]] article, but you [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Disney&diff=next&oldid=628623 reminded me] not to remove "legitimate content". Do you or do you not think it's a parody of Disney sequels? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 01:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
:::This was a while ago, and i don't remember every post i make, but I'm pretty sure i'm commenting about two separate things. I think what i was saying was that the high sequel number is a reference, but the rest of it is not, but like i said, it was a while ago. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Coach Z's Hand ==

I was watching this on my DVD and noticed that Coach Z's hand must have been made in the same flash image as the pinata and string because, as it (the pinata) swings, his hand rotates. Is this a goof like it was done just to make animating easier, or is this supposed to happen. I watched this on my tv, so it's kinda harder to see on the computer. Viewing the flash file helps. So, what do you think? -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 00:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== In Decidedly Non-Jungle Situitions ==

Is there a page for "Jungle Animals In Decidedly Non-Jungle Situations"? {{User:C-Son-L Sweaters/sig}} 23:44, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

== no human nose ==

I don't know if I'm just confused or if this is a real fun fact.Strong Bad says that one of the requirements in order to sell unlicensed products of him and The Cheat, one of them must have a human nose,but of of their products show them without human noses.I think this is notable. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:08, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:Well, yeah, he says that a requirement to ''sell'' unlicensed stuff is that one of them has to have a human nose. He never says that characters ''in the products'' have to have human noses. And, they are never seen actually selling their items. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 01:14, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
::Erm, I don't think either of those really apply, StrongAwesome. Anyway, on the DVDs, The Cheat has weird noses, but not HUMAN noses. The Cheets and Strong Brush don't have human noses, either, though each only represents one character. I'd say notable, for the DVDs especially. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:17, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Twice? ==

I think it should be footnoted that Coach Z (in my opinion) may have said "Hey Strong Bad look, you're toys!". I just can't hear twice, although I hear the W, I don't hear the I. --[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 16:12, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:I happen to agree. Toys also makes more sense contextually. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::The Coach's accent is a little hard to hear clearly, but in the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEkZI8vGDxo DVD version], it's clearly "twice". Seeing as it's a pinata, and it's made to look like Strong Bad, both "toys" and "twice", respectively, don't make ''perfect'' sense, but you can hear "twice" clearly. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 20:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Still, taking Coach Z's accent, it could be Toys, as I can only hear a slight W, and I'm listening at 90% volume. It could, at least, be placed as a footnote, until we get some sort of confirmation. --[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 20:43, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Twice. the last sound isn't voiced enough for it to be "toys". and as for not making perfect sense, that's what [[Twice|this]] is for. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::I knew this'd be exactly what'd happen, I'm just saying it kinda sounds like it, and the page Twice doesn't make it make sense, since Twice makes sense in other contexts, but saying Toys would still make sense, as he is holding a Strong Bad toy, and that he is in form of one. Although Twice also makes sense as he is referring to duplication, so that's why I suggested a footnote. --[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 21:45, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::Well, we scarcely use footnotes, and only when there's never a clear consensus, and ''and'' as a last option. We never think footnote as the first thing to do. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 22:23, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Like I say on my user page, I'm pretty new here. I was just saying, it sounds like toys. Not twice. I guess it's you big admin guys' descisions, so I'll be quiet. --[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 22:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::::As a matter of fact, only one admin has posted so far, and he agrees with you. However, one of our policies for talk pages is to treat everyone's opinion equally, regardless of sysop, ordinary user, anonny, etc. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 22:36, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I really can't hear anything here but "twice". First, the "w" is pretty clear, and that vowel, while Coach Z'd a bit, still sounds a lot more like "i" than "oi". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:23, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::: I hear twice.... i can Kinda make "toys" out, but we would have to go into the details to figure it out. lessee..... Someone go into the voice, um, sound with your computer and listen to it chopped up... I have a feeling we will know by that. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]

specially marked

Jibblejibblejibble — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:10:31 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Inside References */

{{sbenav|194}}
[[Image:Sbemail194.png|thumb|Giving cereal a specially marked piece of his mind]]
Strong Bad educates us on the free toys found in cereal boxes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]] ([[Riverquest Safariventure]]), [[Marzipan's House]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, April 21, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 3:08

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Six}}, {{dvd|Sbemails' 50 Greatest Hits DVD|notitle=true}}

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' If everybody in the world checked their email, the Internet would probably break.

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: cerial box toys</div>
Hey ho, Strongbad. 
What kind of free toys would you put in specially marked 
cerial boxes? 
PB 
Over the hills 
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads 'Hey ho, Strongbad' as 'Hey! Ho! Strongbad!' (as if it was from "[[Wikipedia:Blitzkrieg Bop|Blitzkrieg Bop]]", [[specially marked#Real-World References|see below]]) and 'cerial' as 'keh-ree-al'.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Ooh, I'm glad you asked Problem Brian. I've been wanting to give specially marked boxes of cereal a specially marked piece of my mind for some time now.

''{A dotted-line circle appears near the top of Strong Bad's head. Two lines appear, going from the circle to a new circle, this time larger and in front of Strong Bad's head. In the bigger circle, there is a picture of Strong Bad's brain.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I choose...this piece.

''{An arrow points to a spot on the left side of Strong Bad's brain. He clears the screen, and the circles disappear.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well before you get the toys inside, you first have to navigate the treacherous, jaggedy rock filled class 5 rapids of specially marked cereal box fake outs! Luckily, I'm a lame sandal wearing hippie with a ponytail that's been down these rapids with groups of tourists many times!

''{Cuts to Strong Badia, where Strong Bad and The Cheat, wearing a ponytail and a helmet, respectively, are in the 'Riverquest Safariventure' box, with a hose running in front of it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ok guys, now I'm gonna need everyone to lean hard to the right! ''{Strong Bad pulls out some sort of microphone and makes a clicking noise}''

''{Cut to Marzipan's kitchen. Strong Bad walks in from the right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The first hazard you have to watch out for is cereals with anything grown in Iowa in the name. You know...

''{Music starts to play in the background.}''

''{As Strong Bad says the items, boxes of Corn Krunch, Wheat Chaff, Oh T'meel, Cripsy Hog Crunchities, and Fundament-o's appear, in that order.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...corn, wheat, oats, hogs, fundamentally-sound college basketball players. Please, to stay away from these. Those cereals only ever put fitness-related crap in specially marked boxes.

''{A picture of a step counter appears against a blue background. In flashing letters on the bottom, it says "One Free TakesteppaTM Step Take Monitor!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Sarcastic voiceover}'' Oh, great! I can count how many steps I took today!

''{A picture of a defibrillator appears on-screen. At the top of the screen, it reads "Clear?! One FreeTM Defib Kit Inside!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Sarcastic voiceover}'' Fantastic! I can restart my heart if it stops!

''{Cut back to Marzipan's kitchen, where Strong Bad's face is on a box of 'Hypothetic-O's'.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{on the box}'' What you do want to look for are cereals with sound effects in the name.

''{The box flies off-screen. When Strong Bad names the sound effects, boxes of Fruit Smax, Chocolate Breakfast Candy Bar Pops, Soundy Puffs, Blue Laser Blasts, and Sugar Rittled Gunshots in a Crowded Mall appear in order.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Smacks, pops, puffs, blasts, and, um, gunshots in a crowded mall.

''{Cut to Strong Bad standing in the kitchen. X, explosion, boxing glove, square, shoe, and [[Marshie]] shaped marshmallows appear around him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know, the kind with the squarish, sugared pieces of styrofoam that they claim are marshmallows. These are guaranteed to have a nice, big—

''{Cut to a dirty Strong Bad hand reaching in the box of Cheat Commandos...O's}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —reach-your-nasty-unwashed-hand-straight-to-the-bottom-of-the-box toy in it.

''{Strong Bad pulls out a [[Ser-g-geant Marshie]] figure in its blister pack}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad standing in the kitchen with a box of Fruit Smax on the table.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Next up are the three most useless letters in the specially marked alphabet.

''{Zoom to Strong Bad's mouth}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' U...P...C.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad standing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' If you spot these wastes of serif on a cereal box,

''{Cut to a bar code}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' turn and run as fast as you can.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad standing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' This means not only are they gonna make you buy ''{six more boxes of Fruit Smax appear}'' several more boxes that you have to cut the bar codes off of, but you're also gonna—

''{Cut to a close shot of a Cereal Flakes box. Above, the red text reads "FREE PLUSH CEREAL BOX" and the black text reads "WITH 25 PROOFS OF PURCHASE AND $15 SHIPPING AND HANDLING"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —have to involve your mom to write a check for the shipping and handling if she's back from Vegas!

''{Record scratch. Cut back to Strong Bad standing, talking angrily}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The nerve of those cereals! You leave my mom ''{slams fist on the table}'' out of this!

''{Screen changes, there is now a box of Cheat Commandos...O's on the desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Some cereals can't even be bothered with a toy at all.

''{Cut to the box}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' They try and pass off the back of the box—

''{Box flips, revealing a cutout of Crack Stuntman's head, with holes at the sides so that it can be made into a mask. On the top left are scissors indicating that it can be cut out and the words "snip snip".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —as some kind of prize. ''{Zoom in on the mask}'' That dotted line you expect me to cut along is like a toyless slap in my face! Masks,

''{The image of Crack's face becomes a maze. [[Gunhaver]] appears in the bottom left at the maze's entrance, with a caption reading "Help! I'm lost!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' mazes,

''{The top part of the maze becomes a word search, most of which consists of uncommon letters, like "Q", while the words "'''BUY MORE CEREAL'''" appear in bold. [[Reynold]] is seen on the upper right, with a caption reading "Find 3 words!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' word searches, PAH!

''{Throws box, cut back to Strong Bad standing}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I know the kind of kids that enjoyed these funtivities on the backs of cereal boxes, and let me tell you, they were real easy to beat up.

''{Homestar Runner walks in wearing a Crack Stuntman mask.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Blah, Strong Bad, blah! I'm a crappy Stuntman!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know what kind of toys I'd put in specially marked boxes?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yes.

''{Zoom in on Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Anything ''{Reaches into a cereal box}'' heavy and pointy enough ''{Zoom in on box}'' to do lasting damage to the face.

''{Zooms out as Strong Bad takes out a chainsaw-car and throws it at Homestar, knocking him backwards onto the floor.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wahhhh! Strong Bad, while I'm down here, can you help me finish this word search? I can't find 'dextrose-flavornoids'.

''{[[New Paper]] comes down}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click the words "Problem Brian" to see the book by [[Lem Sportsinterviews#Beverly Sportsinterviews|Bev Sportsinterviews]].
*Click on Homestar's foot at the end to see a [[printable]] [[Crack Stuntman]] mask.
*Click on Strong Bad's head at the end to see [[Breakfast Cereals from Specially Marked|all the cereal boxes shown in the email]].

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Whitewater#Classification of whitewater|Class 5 rapids]] have rocks, waves and possibly a steep drop, requiring advanced rafting experience. It is the second highest of the six whitewater classifications.
*The UPC, or [[Wikipedia:Universal Product Code|Universal Product Code]], is a type of [[Wikipedia:barcode|barcode]] that is used to track the movement of store products.
*[[Wikipedia:Chaff|Chaff]] is material consisting of seed coverings and small pieces of stem or leaves that have been separated from the seeds.
*Dextrose is a simple sugar (specifically, the metabolizable form of [[Wikipedia:Glucose|glucose]]). It is the primary means of energy for living things.
*"Flavornoid" may be a [[portmanteau]] of flavor and [[Wikipedia:Flavonoid|flavonoid]], a member of a group of substances found in many plants and plant-based foods with anti-oxidant properties.
*A [[Wikipedia:defibrillator|defibrillator]] is a device used to restart someone's heart to a regular heartbeat when it goes into cardiac arrest (a common cause of death where the heart fails to beat correctly). They are standard medical equipment in most hospitals and ambulances, but not in cereal boxes.

===Trivia===
*The pedometer reads "EVERY STEP U TAKE: 12 STEPS".
*The Cheat Commandos O's box now has Fightgar saying "Those still aren't O's!", similar to Fightgar's comment "Those aren't O's!" on the box in [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].
*The UPC text reads "UPC FUNZONE | Collect them all!", and the UPC number is "566353 0453080".
*The summary of the [[Podstar Runner]] RSS feed reads, "Strong Bad gives specially marked boxes of cereal a piece of his mind."

=== Remarks ===
*The box where Strong Bad takes out the Marshie action figure is the same box that was too lazy to put any toy inside.
*When Strong Bad reaches into the box to get the toy Marshie, his arm is longer than usual.
*The week of the Podcast's release, attempting to update the Podcast on iTunes would only bring up the message, "'Strong Bad Email' does not seem to be a valid podcast URL." The feed was not repaired until September 10, 2008.
*Strong Bad says the defibrillator is used to "restart my heart if it stops". It's actually a myth that defibrillators are used to start hearts that have stopped. As mentioned above, they are actually used to restart a heart when it has irregular heartbeats, in an attempt to get a regular pattern started again.

=== Goofs ===
*The "Problem Brian" Easter egg is still clickable when hidden by the closeup of Strong Bad's brain.
*Strong Bad's hair doesn't move in sync with his head in the Riverquest Safariventure scene.
*There is a layering problem with the milk on the Cheat Commandos...O's box that makes it look as though the milk is behind the back of the bowl. See [[Cheat Commandos...O's]] for the way it should be.
*The Email Strong Bad and Back buttons at the end of the email are still clickable when hidden by the Crack Stuntman mask's background in the Easter egg.
*Strong Bad says that the letters UPC are "wastes of [[Wikipedia:Serif|serif]]" however the letters UPC shown on the cereal box do not contain serifs.

=== Inside References ===
*The chainsaw car is from [[what I want]].
*Strong Bad's ponytail was first seen in [[bike thief]] as part of his college student persona.
*The walking man on the step counter is from [[50K Racewalker]].
*Corn Krunch was previously seen in [[death metal]], where it contained a full-size alto saxophone (contradicting Strong Bad's claims in this email).
*Strong Bad pulls a [[Ser-g-geant Marshie]] toy out of the box of Cheat Commandos...O's.
**Also, one of the "squarish, sugary pieces of styrofoam" marshmallows is shaped like [[Marshie]] himself.
*This toon prominently features [[Breakfast Cereal|cereal]].
*Strong Bad says to "leave [his] [[parents|mom]] out of this."
*The UPC says "[[technology|OBOE SHOES]]" and [[EGGS]] upside down.
*"Iowa Groan", "Oh! T'Meel" and "New Tritious" are all [[homophones]].
*One of Strong Bad's lines is a variation of [[Please to be]].
*The Oh!T'meel is a copy of "Ah!Laska" organic Chocolate syrup sold in health food stores.

=== Real-World References ===
[[Image:SBbrain.PNG|150px|thumb|Strong Bad's brain]]
*The opening of the email, "Hey, ho, Strong Bad," is said in a way reminiscent of "[[Wikipedia:Blitzkrieg Bop|Blitzkrieg Bop]]" by [[Wikipedia:Ramones|the Ramones]]. The song's chant was previously parodied in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], in which [[Marzipan]] dressed up as [[Wikipedia:Joey Ramone|Joey Ramone]].
* Strong Bad's [[Brains|brain]] is based on the second form of the final boss in the [[Nintendo#Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES)|Super Nintendo]] game ''[[Wikipedia:Contra III: The Alien Wars|Contra III: The Alien Wars]]''.
* The Fundament-O's box resembles cereal brands like [[Wikipedia:Wheaties|Wheaties]], in which they put a popular athlete on the front of every box.
**It is also a reference to [http://www.x-entertainment.com/cerealprizeproject/group007/index.php Wheaties Dunk-A-Balls], a basketball-shaped cereal from 1993.
* The 'One Free Takesteppa Step Take Monitor!' is a reference to the free [[Wikipedia:pedometer|pedometers]] which have actually come free in boxes of certain healthy cereals.
*"Every step U take" is a line from the song "[[Wikipedia:Every Breath You Take|Every Breath You Take]]" by [[Wikipedia:The Police|The Police]].
*There was a cereal named [[Wikipedia:Smacks|Smacks]]. It had previously been known as Honey Smacks since the 1980s, and had its name simplified in the 1990s because its mascot, the Dig 'Em Frog, was simply calling them "Smacks". The name was reverted in 2004.
*There was a cereal named [[Wikipedia:Corn Pops|Pops]]. It was previously known as Corn Pops, and was changed to Pops in mid 2006, but was reverted that same year due to poor sales.

==DVD Version==
{{commentary|email=true}}
{{sectionstub}}

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|194|13929|youtube=TrSgHAIqIkQ}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Podstar Runner]]

Talk:flashback

Jibblejibblejibble — Tue, 11 May 2010 18:15:50 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Modestly Hot Easter Egg */

{{featuredarticle}}

== A few things ==

A few things. Firstly, the cast list gives Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad whereas the Easter Egg section gives Senor Cardgage. Which should it be?

*EDIT: Since it's been almost a week since I posted this and I haven't had any feedback, I changed CCOSB in the cast list to Senor Cardgage, just to get rid of the contradiction. If you think they should both be CCOSB, by all means change it.

Finally, I removed this fun fact:

*The Prince of Town easter egg, which shows him asking if anyone will claim the lifetime supply of fishsticks, is there to show why he's so fat. He ate the lifetime supply of fishsticks and became the King of Town we all know and hate.

...on the grounds that it should be self-evident. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== Cave Quest ==

In the DVD version, they talk about a game they made called "Cave Quest" for the Apple II. Is this game available for download anywhere? Did the Brothers Chaps say anything else about this title?

[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 12:44, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Saying "e-mail" 100 times ==

Can anyone confirm that he actually says e-mail 100 times? I got 96, but it's hard to count... I just pulled up calculator and hit enter every time, but you get into a groove and accidentally hit it twice or so when he says, "eeeeee-maaaail..." --[[User:favetvshows1x3|favetvshows1x3]] 17:22, 10 Oct 2004 (MST)

*I spent a good twenty minutes and counted the emails in a .wav editing program. Yes, he DOES say "e-mail" 100 times. Phew. I'm...parched. I'm not sure if this is a Fun Fact or not, but I went ahead and added it. Feel free to change my wording (I mean, how do you refer to the word "e-mail" in an e-mail?) as you may see fit. --[[User:Bellatrix|Bellatrix]] 18:48, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Combolations reference ==

This claim in fun facts looks dubious:
''When Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad says "Many combolations, Elizagerth", it's a reference to the credits in japanese cartoon.''
???

:Have you read the transcript for [[japanese cartoon]]? Check the credits.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:43, 18 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Zagnut ==

Senor Cardgage is definitely eating a Zagnut. This also coincides with the house that gave sucky treats.
--[[User:128.135.171.66|128.135.171.66]] 22:51, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
==Closed STUFF==
===Emails (DECLINED)===
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deline''' Who knows, who cares? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How did the Compy know that Strong Bad asked for a glass of water? It's a cartoon, spammit, don't take it so literally! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:44, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline. Sorry.''' Ugh! These obnoxious losers and their overly agressive declines. I'm not like that. Sorry, but suspension of disbelief must be a factor in this. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 06:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declining with a visCOSity.''' This is not fun, and it's not a fact. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 23:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad has a list of the e-mails he has done on his computer. You know, the list he usually has a scroll buttons song for? '''Duh-cline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
===Discount Flashback Warehouse (DECLINED)===
In the Discount Flashback Warehouse Easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole Easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.
*'''Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants...''' Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster''': After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad ''talks'' like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact '''rephrased:''' In the Discount Flashback Warehouse Easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
*Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? '''Decriminoted (decline).'''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's what I'm basing the whole thing on.
*'''Decline''' Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of [[theme park]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Comment''' One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of TV.
**SIGN YOUR VOTES! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***"Comment" is not a vote. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* '''D3kl1n3!!''' I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man!''' Um, it's also a second with Kerrek Slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before [[Senor Mortgage]]. Check your facts, folks. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster:''' Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
**'''Note on the characters:''' Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who ''resembles'' Senor Cardgage. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''DEE-CLINE!''' Aslo note that:
:(A) Senor Cartgage IS Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad. He's a, as Zajac said, a hypothetical version of Strong Bad.
:(B) Strong Bad, in this case, is bored and sad. Senor Cartgage is pretty much always bored and sad, and so, as a result of being simply a hypothetical version of Strong Bad, Senor Cardgage is going to sound like Strong Bad here.
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Universe of Energy ===
{{stufffact|The way that Strong Bad widens the screen is a reference to Ellen's Energy Adventure at Epcot in Walt Disney World. Ellen DeGeneres widens the screen by saying "Left side! Right side! A little wider.. there ya go!"}}
{{stuffverdict|16:37, 30 May 2007 (UTC)|12:42, 4 June 2007 (UTC)|declined|13|1|flashback}}

== Remove useless comment on main page ==

One of the comments on the main flashback page says that Strong Bad says "My very own a The Cheat" but that the text is "My very own The Cheat." This is useless, because this is just Strong Bad's weird accent. He often calls The Cheat "uh-The Cheat". For an example see [[for kids]], when he asks, "Can you say, uh-The Cheat?"

It's very useless indeed, but it's not uh-The Cheat, it's a The Cheat. As in 'a book' or 'a Tragic Clown Dog'. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:56, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== very not-so-low prices ==

Do you think that Strong Bad's "How can I make these prices any lower"
could be a reference to how Wal Mart says they have low prices but they're not?

Wal-Mart has great prices. I got a Gamecube there for fifty cents less and two games more than at Best Buy. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 04:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, but once they raised the prices on Slimfast for 1 week by a dollar and "lowered" it to the original price. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 21:24, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Hey! ==

A long time ago, shortly after I joined, I added a remark about how Sir Strong Bad's shaving off half his mustache would hurt, since it is shown he has bones in it in That a Ghost? Why? --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 21:26, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Why what? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:27, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah? [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]]

Why was it assasinated? --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 12:59, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Because it is nothing but speculation. What if he just had bones stuck inside his mustache? Don't try to be scientific with things that make no reasonable sense in the first place. (like mustaches having bones) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:: Yep.

-Alex H.

== bubs stand ==

*"If bubs is there why are Mr. Bland and Señor not under his stand?" I posted this on the bored and it gets removed. should it be removed or not?--[[User:69.202.82.162|69.202.82.162]] 15:38, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:*I think it should be removed, because we only see Bubs, not Bubs' Concession Stand. As was pointed out in the reversion notes, Bubs could've been around before opening his Stand (I can't imagine what he did with his time). {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:42, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::*It must be so, because in the original book, which must have happened after Flashback as The Cheat is out of the egg, Senor and Mr. Bland were still not yet crushed by the stand. They must have gotten crushed sometime btween the first book and Where is my Hat At. [[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]] 15:56, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:* Or they could have survived getting crushed. Who knows? As I said above, don't try to be scientific with things that make no scientific sense. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::*The whole story could be apocryphal. Strong Bad has a history of making up whatever he feels like, and we all seem to be overlooking the fact that, supposedly, he and Coach Z were playing a game ''on the moon'' and rode a ''sweet, sweet rainbow bridge'' back to earth. Science! I said science again! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== E-mails Strong Bad didn't answer ==

{| border=1 style="background:#ffdd99"
| When the Compy said Strong Bad had answered 100 e-mails, that's not entirely true. He answered two in 50 emails, two more in 2 emails, and you could say he answered more than one in huttah! (although he didn't answer any in anything or mile). Depending on your definition of "answering" an email, he read extras in spring cleaning (although they were promptly deleted). If you count by each toon being an e-mail, then he still answered in excess of 103 e-mails, since the three bonus e-mails on the DVD are presumably pre-100th. In addition, there is a "preview email" in the Toons Menu and never before seen emails in personal favorites. So really, at the time of the hundredth e-mail, Strong Bad actually has answered more than 100 e-mails. The hundredth email was actually answered somewhere between Emails 83-94.
|}

Just thought it might be worth mentioning that SB technically didn't answer two e-mails: [[mile]] (where The Cheat took it over, and technically that wasn't a real e-mail either), and [[anything]] (where Homestar poured Mountain Dew on the Compy's keyboard).
:Yeah, those are already mentioned in the quoted item. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Holy crap! I've forgotten how to read!! (Sorry, I think I'll stop with the comments for today.) -- [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 21:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I think that by "100th email", they mean "100th episode of the email show." Because, not only has he answered more than 100 on the site, I find it hard to believe that he would have never answered any emails on his own before the email show started. And bonus episodes don't count. That's kinda what bonus means. --[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 07:28, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

== The PoT's Quote ==

I always thought that in the Easter egg, the Prince of Town said, "Well, no one claimed this lifetime supply of fishsticks..." instead of "Will no one claim this lifetime supply of fishsticks?" Just thought it was worth noting. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 04:14, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

== Triva is wrong ==

The first bullet mentions that strongbad never wore a shirt after finding out that homestrar was wearing the same shirt he was, but he wears one in different town.
:That could be counted as part of Strong Bad's imagination, and therefore non-canon... However, the real proof comes from that that was the original idea for the episode that they later scrapped. Therefore, it's not accurate at all. It's still notable, of course, because it was the original idea for the episode. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Lowercase i's ==

Is it just me, or are the I's in the two "Wierd"s lowercase? It isn't mentioned in the transcript.http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/thorax.pnginlion: 03:37, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== 150th e-mail ==

This makes you think, will Strong Bad do anything for his 150th email? It's obvious he'd do something for the 50th, 100th, or 200th, but 150th? Feb. 21, 2006

yep, prolly so. prolly some kind of extended flashback or class reunion. {{User:Csours/sig}} 07:39, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:I bet they will too. ;) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== Comment concerning the declined fact Discount Flashback Warehouse==

*'''just sayin'''': Dang, you people are vicious with your declines. Well, it may not matter anymore, but I agree with this guy. Strong Bad was obviously not talking in his usual voice, and his voice did indeed sound very reminiscent of Senor Cardgage. Strong Bad says often that he thinks Senor is so cool, so why wouldn't he imitate him? And as far as them being different versions of the same character: Like Stinkoman and Sterrance, Senor Cardgage is a character that was created as a variation on Strong Bad to satisfy someone's question, but, just to be funny, was made into his own character. Creepy Comb-Over guy and Senor Cardgage have to be the same person, because he wears Strong Bad's mask (indicating that he's the variant of Strong Bad) but he's still referred to as Senor Cardgage in various toons. Yet on more than on occasion, Strong Bad is seen talking to Senor Cardgage (indicating that the variant and the original are two separate entities).
 So in conclusion, Senor Cardgage is his own separate person, and Strong Bad likes him so much that he imitates him in this easter egg. BIGGITY!--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 05:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:He was created in much the same way as [[Homsar]], via [[homsar]]. A misspelling leads to a short little joke character, leads to a full blown main character. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

::Wait. If CCOSB and Senor Cardgage are the same person, why does Strong Bad refer to them by different names in "[[kind of cool]]"? --[[User:Bill Hart|Uncle Bill]] 17:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::They did have separate pages at one point. --[[User:2Fast2Furious|Ced]] 18:01, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
But they've been merged. --[[User:Bill Hart|Uncle Bill]] 23:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== "grrl"......or"grrrl" ==

I was just wondering, the word "grrl"(or "grrrl") has appeared somewhat throughout [[http://homestarrunner.com Homestar Runner]] and I though there should be a section about "grrl".....(or "grrrl")

:I would like to direct you to [[Grrl|this]] page. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:40, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

== Old Accent? ==

How do we get the email being read in the old accent? Sounds like the current voice to me, aside from "joo" for "you". When Matt intends to do the old accent, it's unmistakeable. If no good arguments come in, I'll reword that part of the transcript. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

== bob "homestar duckshirt" dylan ==

homestar sounds a good bit like bob dylan as he counts his 10 steps. {{User:Csours/sig}} 07:37, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean? Like, in any specific song? How do you compare them? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 21:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

== External link ==

The link to http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2961 just brings me to what seems to be a search engine. Judging by what else is on the page, I'd say this is probably a case of [[wikipedia:Domain parking|domain parking]]. The line "This page provided to the domain owner free by Sedo's Domain Parking" down at the bottom of the page also seems to support this. Anyway, just letting you know. [[User:67.78.136.222|67.78.136.222]] 06:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)(KaloFoxfire)

== Stuck in his Craw ==
hey, what does it mean to get something stuck in your craw? and should it be mentioned here under remarks or something?
--{{User:Choc-O-Lardiac_Arrest/sig}} 05:48, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
:Here's what [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stick%20in%20one's%20craw dictionary.com] has to say about it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Verifying my Edit ==

I just put on the following, because I thought it was a good idea. 
<blockquote>*This E-mail also explains why the King of Town is so fat and where The Cheat came from.</blockquote> 
I'm putting it on the discussion page to see if anyone disagrees with me. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 19:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

:Gosh, this fact seems familiar. I think it has come and gone before, but I don't know. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

==We've got this season,last season,and stuff I just made up!==
What is the Last season(Tandy) email supposed to be?(guest)
:Did you check the transcript. "Last season. {He gestures to the right where a screen from '''"band names"''' appears.} "—[[User:Geshmalderborgen|גשמלדרברגן]] 23:16, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

==Rainbow Bridge==

Could the rainbow bridge refer to Care Bears, who used a rainbow to come from Care-A-Lot to Earth? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 01:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

:It could be, but there are other [[wikipedia:Rainbow Bridge|rainbow bridges]] out there as well. So it would be speculation.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:43, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I think this should be included in the "Real-World" references, because I'm sure a lot of people will remember the Care Bears doing that when this email is viewed or when they read this page.

See, I thought it was a Katamari Damacy reference, so unless we can get a definite noting should be added.
:Well, it certainly couldn't be that, since Katamari didn't come out in the US until a good 6 months after this toon. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

== WIIIIIDE SCREEEEN! ==

The way that Strongbad says "WIIIIIDE SCREEEEEN" could be a reference to Universe Of Energy, a ride located at Epcot in Walt Disney World. Ellen DeGeneres says this the same way before the screen widens. [[User:DNA Evidence|DNA Evidence]] 00:13, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

:Do you know when the ride was made? When I went (in 2005), I don't recall hearing about any such ride. Because if it came after, it's not a reference. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 00:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yes. It was DEFINATELY made before 2005. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe_of_Energy Wikipedia article!] {{User:DNA Evidence/sig}}

==Lowercase I==

Because it's all written, does it count? [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 17:07, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

== Modestly Hot Easter Egg ==

Should [[Modestly Hot Homsar]] be in the Characters list?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 02:03, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
:nope, pictures don't count. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
:: She made a debut though.

==Time Paradox?==
How would Old-Timey Strong Bad know that present-day Strong Bad would read 100 emails? In fact, how did he even know Strong Bad ''was'' reading emails? {{User:Reversinator/sig}}
:Basically just because it's a cartoon and the laws of not knowing the future don't apply if it's funny for them not to. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:22, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:: Just repeat to yourself "it's just a show. I should really just relax."--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 14:47, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

== Lier? ==

when SB said "I lost count around... 51." Tht is not true. proof? SBemail 91. hIs intro song is "'''And coming in at number 91, it's EMAAIL!!!!!!'''
:[[flashback#Remarks|That's already noted]] [[Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner Universe|in a couple different places at least]]. it's actually been on this page since the days of the old wiki. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 18:48, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Senor Mortgage

Jibblejibblejibble — Sat, 08 May 2010 21:01:07 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/The Robot Says......

You know, I think that this is just how Strong Bad imagines Senor Cardgage ending up. That would explain why he looks like Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad, and also why the Visor Robot is there, seeing as how the Visor Robot's only other appearances have been fictitious and have been created by Strong Bad and The Cheat(Strong Bad imagined him in [[Homestarloween Party]], he drew him in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]], and The Cheat animated him in [[Everybody to the Limit]].)

I think its awesome! there are so many cheesy mortgage compnaies, and now internet sites out there that promise everything. Check out [http://www.mortgageleadmarket.com Mortgage Lead Market] I had a guy from there give me his schpiel yesterday! Keep the humor coming. It allows us to deal with it all...

== Every welcome? ==

I'm pretty sure he says "You're EVER welcome, Valerie" not "You're EVERY welcome" →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:17, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Chick Fil-A? ==

I could have sworn he said "Cheap Fillet" or even Cheat Fillet.

:Chick Fil-A is an actual restaurant chain. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:34, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Funny, I originally heard it as "The Cheat" or something. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

== Navigation Bar? ==

"This 'toon is one of the last ones to have the old non-flash Navigation Bar."

It is? I wasn't able to access it. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 19:10, 29 Apr 2005 (CDT)

:Access it? It's there. Perhaps you don't understand. The Brothers Chaps used to widely use JavaScript within the HTML of every page on the site to make the link for the Main Page random. You can see the script in the source code of the Senor Mortgage page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:20, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Oh! I thought it meant navigation bar like in A Jorb Well Done. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:00, 29 Apr 2005 (CDT)
==Closed STUFF==
===Potential reference===
The phone number 555-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY could be a potential reference to a phone number in [[wikipedia:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]], which is 1-555-55-5-55555-555-5555.
*'''Decline.''' The whole point of the bit was to lampoon poorly made advertisments run in the middle of the day when few people are watching TV. These commercials typically end in some anoyingly [[wikipedia:jingle|catchy jingle]] that includes the toll- free phone number, which more often than not has the name of the business embedded among a series of repeating or sequential numbers. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 11:30, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:34, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Potential reference"! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:10, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Agh! "Could be"! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' If it's a could be, then it's not really a fun fact. It's just guessing. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*The too long phone number gag is not exclusive to ''Hitchhikers''. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declined''' One is not a reference to the other. Both are a seperately reference to the fact that in old movies, phone numbers always started with 555- (since no area in the US at that time had that prefix). Another words, it's a coincidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This fun fact is OVERRR!!!''' Seriously, "could-be's" are not cool. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deep-42'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:32, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''TWO'nd!'''As much as I like H2G2, I have to disagree. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED! - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]]
*'''2nd'd!''' How thick can you get? "This is a potential reference to HG2G" was an example of a pathstic fun fact!!-Alice
*'''STRONG Accept''' unless someone can come up with another example (outside of HHG and Senor Mortgage) of a gag phone number with a ridiculous number of 5's in it. I'm pretty sure I never saw such a thing before Senor Mortgage. So I would say that this is very unlikely to be a coincidence. - Dingell
**Well I STRONGLY suspect that the reason there are a STRONG number of fives in the name is because there's STRONG evidence to point to the STRONG fact that fictional phone numbers have three STRONG "5"s in the name, and it's a STRONG inclination to just stick a bunch of "5"s if you want to be STRONGLY funny. '''STRONG DECLINE, so says STRONG BAD''' [[User:Dasrik|STRONG Dasrik]] 01:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Comment''' Actually, I remember when I was about 4 years old, there was a phon number on Sesame Street that was fives. Plus, I think this is just a goof on the long and hard to rememebr phone numbers companies give you (There's an 8 somewhere in the middle of Senor's) -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''DENIAL''': I was a writer on ''"The Bozo Show"'' on WGN-TV in the mid-1990's, and we used a joke that started "The number is 555-5555, and remember, the third number's a 3." --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:11 AM ET May 13 2005
:*'''Comment''' 555-5555 is a normal seven-digit phone number. Senor Mortgage's phone number is clearly exaggerated in length, which is the main part of the joke. Yes, 555-5555 and similar numbers are used all the time in media, but that's not all that's being referenced here. - Dingell
:**Yes it is. Deal with it. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:40, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
:***With that sort of reasoning on your side, how could one disagree? Of course, the length of the phone number isn't at all meant to be a joke... maybe Mike and Matt actually thought that phone numbers are 31 digits long. Or maybe one of them fell asleep at the keyboard with his finger on the "5" key. Those scenarios are about as likely as this reference NOT being true. - Dingell
:****Well you're losing anyway, so who cares. Your logic amounts to a "could be" and everyone knows by now how I feel about those. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:49, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
:*****And you're being a jerk Dasrik. Anyway he's at least right that the length is a joke. But I would say it's not a reference to the number above ecause it's a different length, if it were the same length, then maybe. -- [[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:******Thanks, I agree. Let's end it on this. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:41, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Arthur De-cli-nt! Guh, no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The 2 numbers are not the same length. -- [[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Possibly Second? I'm not so sure on the subject. Has anyone tried calling it before? -Sb100

==Microsoft sam==

I think that the brothers chaps used the voice of microsoft sam as the voice, does anyone else think it's something else? [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 14:16, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Fun Fact to be removed/changed==

*''The character that appears in this short is Senor Cardgage, who is not to be confused with [[Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad]]. This is acknowledged by its description in the [[TV Time Toons Menu]]: "Wait, is Senor Cardgage real!?!"''

This doesn't make sense, because that link just redirects to the Senor Cardgage page. I think maybe it was decided that they are one person and this page was just never updated to reflect that? This fact needs to be removed or changed in some way, and I'm really not sure what would be the best way to do it, so... Can somebody take care of that? -[[User:Polly|Polly]] 06:13, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I have updated the wording. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:21, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, they used to have seperate pages at one point. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Another fun fact that got changed is, "Senor Cardgage calls the robot Valerie because of his habit of treating everyone like females, even though they're not, as Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad does in [[kind of cool]]." As [[User:Jay|Jay]] mentioned, we'd decided not to use the term "Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad" and so he changed it to "he". The only places on the wiki that still use that term are the kind of cool and [[Senor Cardgage]] page. The transcript for kind of cool uses "Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad" because it's been written from a standpoint that was supposed to be taken in 2003. (At that point, [[The Brothers Chaps]] didn't know that the guy with the creepy comb-over and beer belly was Senor Cardgage.) [[User:2Fast2Furious|2Fast2Furious]] 12:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:''Wait. Is Senor Cardgage real!?'' I think at one point, there was a link provided by [[The Paper]], reminding that his ''real'' name is Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad. It probably got removed because TBC were forced to admit to themselves that he became a bona fide separate character. —[[User:Brian Barbera|Brian Barbera]] 00:11, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Yep, they made him a real character. He is apparently the creepy old guy from the Strong family's youth. —[[User:2Fast2Furious|2Fast2Furious]] 00:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

==What happened to my contributions?==

I added stuff like the percent signs being a reference to interest rates and the "NOT APPROVED" sound being similar to the "DELETED" sound. What happened?
:The sound's not that similar, and the others are explaining the joke. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::That was edit summary of me and It's dot com's revertions. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

== Are you having trouble buying a hotel or something? ==

Anyone think the "house" in the beginning looks an awful lot like a blue Monopoly hotel? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 02:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[http://www.tomgpalmer.com/images/Monopoly%20Hotel.jpg Monopoly hotel]

:Monopoly hotels are red, and have a cupola or something like that centered on the peak. This blue house (referred to as a house) has a chimney not centered on the peak. Other dissimilarities occur as well. I don't think this'd be a notable observation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::True, and it looks nothing like a monopoly hotel. Other than that, spot on! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Not a Robot==

Should there be something in real world references about "Not a robot!" referring to commercials that say "Not an actor", or is this too obvious? --[[User:12.217.241.197|12.217.241.197]] 03:33, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm, I think that could be useful info; especially if someone's not familiar with those types of commercials... go ahead and add it to the article, if you like. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:35, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

== Upside down hair ==

inbetween frame 725 to 729 (as he turns his head). Senor's hair flip's vertically then does a complete 180 degree turn. Can anyone explain this or should it be added to goofs? [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 11:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:That's already listed under [[Senor Mordgage#Remarks|Remarks]]... given they made it bounce a little when flipping sides, I don't think it was unintentional, and thus it doesn't belong in Goofs. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

== This might sound kind of stupid, but... ==

I know it's a 555 number, but is it possible to remark what would really happen if someone actually dialed the 31 digit telephone number? If not, then what about 1-555-555-5855, coming from '''555-55-55855'''-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY? Considering that 1-555 doesn't appear to be a regional area code...and even if I picked up the phone, someone would still have to back up such a claim.
:From Wikipedia: "In fact, only 555-0100 through 555-0199 are now specifically reserved for fictional use". So by dialing 555-555-5855, you'll probably get an answer. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:19, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't think its stupid at all cause ive tried but my phone wont fit all 31 digits... I would try "555-555-5855" but im to freaked out that someone will answer.

== I am staring at you... ==

This is NOT the first time we see a front view of the Visor Robot, we saw the front view briefly in [[Homestarloween Party]] as he turned to vaporize the dog named Chris. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 00:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

== Icebergs? ==

Is it possible that he says "handsome talking icebergs," instead of experts? It's one word, that's not quite like another, but it is a little obscure. --[[User:Rotanagol|Rotanagol]] 01:56, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== TODAY ==

:''The phone number [[Wikipedia:555 telephone number|555]]-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY would translate as 555-55-55855-55-5-73667-6678-4243-86329. '''"TODAY" is part of the phone number, but meant to be part of the jingle.'''''
The part in bold has been on the article essentially as long as it's existed on the MediaWiki wiki, and it might even go back to the old wiki. Recently it was removed as redundant but then immediately {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Senor_Mortgage&diff=676485&oldid=676484 replaced}} with the reason that "without it, people would try to remove that part of the phone number." I, however, agree with the anonny who removed it and think it's unnecessarily explaining the joke. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:07, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:Agree, this is just explaining the joke (and seems a bit like it's alleging a mistake that's not there). If indeed people start removing the "TODAY" from the phone number, it can be invisocommented in. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:: It's not a goof on the part on the Bros Chos, not obscure and very obviously intentional on Cardgage's behalf. Therefore, there is no reason for it to be kept. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 10:39, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:::That's fine, we can leave it out i guess. i like heimstern's idea though {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} (and yes, i was the one who reverted the removal.) 17:22, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

== The Robot Says...... ==

Ok, the Visor Robot says, "Thanks, Senor Mortgage." Isn't he supposed to say, "Thanks, Senor Cardgage." ?

Talk:flashback

Jibblejibblejibble — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:20:58 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/Lier?

{{featuredarticle}}

== A few things ==

A few things. Firstly, the cast list gives Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad whereas the Easter Egg section gives Senor Cardgage. Which should it be?

*EDIT: Since it's been almost a week since I posted this and I haven't had any feedback, I changed CCOSB in the cast list to Senor Cardgage, just to get rid of the contradiction. If you think they should both be CCOSB, by all means change it.

Finally, I removed this fun fact:

*The Prince of Town easter egg, which shows him asking if anyone will claim the lifetime supply of fishsticks, is there to show why he's so fat. He ate the lifetime supply of fishsticks and became the King of Town we all know and hate.

...on the grounds that it should be self-evident. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== Cave Quest ==

In the DVD version, they talk about a game they made called "Cave Quest" for the Apple II. Is this game available for download anywhere? Did the Brothers Chaps say anything else about this title?

[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 12:44, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Saying "e-mail" 100 times ==

Can anyone confirm that he actually says e-mail 100 times? I got 96, but it's hard to count... I just pulled up calculator and hit enter every time, but you get into a groove and accidentally hit it twice or so when he says, "eeeeee-maaaail..." --[[User:favetvshows1x3|favetvshows1x3]] 17:22, 10 Oct 2004 (MST)

*I spent a good twenty minutes and counted the emails in a .wav editing program. Yes, he DOES say "e-mail" 100 times. Phew. I'm...parched. I'm not sure if this is a Fun Fact or not, but I went ahead and added it. Feel free to change my wording (I mean, how do you refer to the word "e-mail" in an e-mail?) as you may see fit. --[[User:Bellatrix|Bellatrix]] 18:48, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Combolations reference ==

This claim in fun facts looks dubious:
''When Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad says "Many combolations, Elizagerth", it's a reference to the credits in japanese cartoon.''
???

:Have you read the transcript for [[japanese cartoon]]? Check the credits.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:43, 18 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Zagnut ==

Senor Cardgage is definitely eating a Zagnut. This also coincides with the house that gave sucky treats.
--[[User:128.135.171.66|128.135.171.66]] 22:51, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
==Closed STUFF==
===Emails (DECLINED)===
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe its a cartoon, and not reality? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deline''' Who knows, who cares? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How did the Compy know that Strong Bad asked for a glass of water? It's a cartoon, spammit, don't take it so literally! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:44, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline. Sorry.''' Ugh! These obnoxious losers and their overly agressive declines. I'm not like that. Sorry, but suspension of disbelief must be a factor in this. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 06:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declining with a visCOSity.''' This is not fun, and it's not a fact. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 23:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad has a list of the e-mails he has done on his computer. You know, the list he usually has a scroll buttons song for? '''Duh-cline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
===Discount Flashback Warehouse (DECLINED)===
In the Discount Flashback Warehouse Easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole Easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.
*'''Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants...''' Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster''': After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad ''talks'' like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact '''rephrased:''' In the Discount Flashback Warehouse Easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
*Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? '''Decriminoted (decline).'''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's what I'm basing the whole thing on.
*'''Decline''' Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of [[theme park]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Comment''' One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of TV.
**SIGN YOUR VOTES! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***"Comment" is not a vote. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* '''D3kl1n3!!''' I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man!''' Um, it's also a second with Kerrek Slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before [[Senor Mortgage]]. Check your facts, folks. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster:''' Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
**'''Note on the characters:''' Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who ''resembles'' Senor Cardgage. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''DEE-CLINE!''' Aslo note that:
:(A) Senor Cartgage IS Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad. He's a, as Zajac said, a hypothetical version of Strong Bad.
:(B) Strong Bad, in this case, is bored and sad. Senor Cartgage is pretty much always bored and sad, and so, as a result of being simply a hypothetical version of Strong Bad, Senor Cardgage is going to sound like Strong Bad here.
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Universe of Energy ===
{{stufffact|The way that Strong Bad widens the screen is a reference to Ellen's Energy Adventure at Epcot in Walt Disney World. Ellen DeGeneres widens the screen by saying "Left side! Right side! A little wider.. there ya go!"}}
{{stuffverdict|16:37, 30 May 2007 (UTC)|12:42, 4 June 2007 (UTC)|declined|13|1|flashback}}

== Remove useless comment on main page ==

One of the comments on the main flashback page says that Strong Bad says "My very own a The Cheat" but that the text is "My very own The Cheat." This is useless, because this is just Strong Bad's weird accent. He often calls The Cheat "uh-The Cheat". For an example see [[for kids]], when he asks, "Can you say, uh-The Cheat?"

It's very useless indeed, but it's not uh-The Cheat, it's a The Cheat. As in 'a book' or 'a Tragic Clown Dog'. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:56, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== very not-so-low prices ==

Do you think that Strong Bad's "How can I make these prices any lower"
could be a reference to how Wal Mart says they have low prices but they're not?

Wal-Mart has great prices. I got a Gamecube there for fifty cents less and two games more than at Best Buy. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 04:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, but once they raised the prices on Slimfast for 1 week by a dollar and "lowered" it to the original price. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 21:24, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Hey! ==

A long time ago, shortly after I joined, I added a remark about how Sir Strong Bad's shaving off half his mustache would hurt, since it is shown he has bones in it in That a Ghost? Why? --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 21:26, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Why what? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:27, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah? [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]]

Why was it assasinated? --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 12:59, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Because it is nothing but speculation. What if he just had bones stuck inside his mustache? Don't try to be scientific with things that make no reasonable sense in the first place. (like mustaches having bones) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:: Yep.

-Alex H.

== bubs stand ==

*"If bubs is there why are Mr. Bland and Señor not under his stand?" I posted this on the bored and it gets removed. should it be removed or not?--[[User:69.202.82.162|69.202.82.162]] 15:38, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:*I think it should be removed, because we only see Bubs, not Bubs' Concession Stand. As was pointed out in the reversion notes, Bubs could've been around before opening his Stand (I can't imagine what he did with his time). {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:42, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::*It must be so, because in the original book, which must have happened after Flashback as The Cheat is out of the egg, Senor and Mr. Bland were still not yet crushed by the stand. They must have gotten crushed sometime btween the first book and Where is my Hat At. [[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]] 15:56, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:* Or they could have survived getting crushed. Who knows? As I said above, don't try to be scientific with things that make no scientific sense. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::*The whole story could be apocryphal. Strong Bad has a history of making up whatever he feels like, and we all seem to be overlooking the fact that, supposedly, he and Coach Z were playing a game ''on the moon'' and rode a ''sweet, sweet rainbow bridge'' back to earth. Science! I said science again! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== E-mails Strong Bad didn't answer ==

{| border=1 style="background:#ffdd99"
| When the Compy said Strong Bad had answered 100 e-mails, that's not entirely true. He answered two in 50 emails, two more in 2 emails, and you could say he answered more than one in huttah! (although he didn't answer any in anything or mile). Depending on your definition of "answering" an email, he read extras in spring cleaning (although they were promptly deleted). If you count by each toon being an e-mail, then he still answered in excess of 103 e-mails, since the three bonus e-mails on the DVD are presumably pre-100th. In addition, there is a "preview email" in the Toons Menu and never before seen emails in personal favorites. So really, at the time of the hundredth e-mail, Strong Bad actually has answered more than 100 e-mails. The hundredth email was actually answered somewhere between Emails 83-94.
|}

Just thought it might be worth mentioning that SB technically didn't answer two e-mails: [[mile]] (where The Cheat took it over, and technically that wasn't a real e-mail either), and [[anything]] (where Homestar poured Mountain Dew on the Compy's keyboard).
:Yeah, those are already mentioned in the quoted item. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Holy crap! I've forgotten how to read!! (Sorry, I think I'll stop with the comments for today.) -- [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 21:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I think that by "100th email", they mean "100th episode of the email show." Because, not only has he answered more than 100 on the site, I find it hard to believe that he would have never answered any emails on his own before the email show started. And bonus episodes don't count. That's kinda what bonus means. --[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 07:28, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

== The PoT's Quote ==

I always thought that in the Easter egg, the Prince of Town said, "Well, no one claimed this lifetime supply of fishsticks..." instead of "Will no one claim this lifetime supply of fishsticks?" Just thought it was worth noting. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 04:14, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

== Triva is wrong ==

The first bullet mentions that strongbad never wore a shirt after finding out that homestrar was wearing the same shirt he was, but he wears one in different town.
:That could be counted as part of Strong Bad's imagination, and therefore non-canon... However, the real proof comes from that that was the original idea for the episode that they later scrapped. Therefore, it's not accurate at all. It's still notable, of course, because it was the original idea for the episode. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Lowercase i's ==

Is it just me, or are the I's in the two "Wierd"s lowercase? It isn't mentioned in the transcript.http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/thorax.pnginlion: 03:37, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== 150th e-mail ==

This makes you think, will Strong Bad do anything for his 150th email? It's obvious he'd do something for the 50th, 100th, or 200th, but 150th? Feb. 21, 2006

yep, prolly so. prolly some kind of extended flashback or class reunion. {{User:Csours/sig}} 07:39, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:I bet they will too. ;) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== Comment concerning the declined fact Discount Flashback Warehouse==

*'''just sayin'''': Dang, you people are vicious with your declines. Well, it may not matter anymore, but I agree with this guy. Strong Bad was obviously not talking in his usual voice, and his voice did indeed sound very reminiscent of Senor Cardgage. Strong Bad says often that he thinks Senor is so cool, so why wouldn't he imitate him? And as far as them being different versions of the same character: Like Stinkoman and Sterrance, Senor Cardgage is a character that was created as a variation on Strong Bad to satisfy someone's question, but, just to be funny, was made into his own character. Creepy Comb-Over guy and Senor Cardgage have to be the same person, because he wears Strong Bad's mask (indicating that he's the variant of Strong Bad) but he's still referred to as Senor Cardgage in various toons. Yet on more than on occasion, Strong Bad is seen talking to Senor Cardgage (indicating that the variant and the original are two separate entities).
 So in conclusion, Senor Cardgage is his own separate person, and Strong Bad likes him so much that he imitates him in this easter egg. BIGGITY!--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 05:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:He was created in much the same way as [[Homsar]], via [[homsar]]. A misspelling leads to a short little joke character, leads to a full blown main character. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

::Wait. If CCOSB and Senor Cardgage are the same person, why does Strong Bad refer to them by different names in "[[kind of cool]]"? --[[User:Bill Hart|Uncle Bill]] 17:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::They did have separate pages at one point. --[[User:2Fast2Furious|Ced]] 18:01, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
But they've been merged. --[[User:Bill Hart|Uncle Bill]] 23:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== "grrl"......or"grrrl" ==

I was just wondering, the word "grrl"(or "grrrl") has appeared somewhat throughout [[http://homestarrunner.com Homestar Runner]] and I though there should be a section about "grrl".....(or "grrrl")

:I would like to direct you to [[Grrl|this]] page. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:40, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

== Old Accent? ==

How do we get the email being read in the old accent? Sounds like the current voice to me, aside from "joo" for "you". When Matt intends to do the old accent, it's unmistakeable. If no good arguments come in, I'll reword that part of the transcript. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

== bob "homestar duckshirt" dylan ==

homestar sounds a good bit like bob dylan as he counts his 10 steps. {{User:Csours/sig}} 07:37, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean? Like, in any specific song? How do you compare them? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 21:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

== External link ==

The link to http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2961 just brings me to what seems to be a search engine. Judging by what else is on the page, I'd say this is probably a case of [[wikipedia:Domain parking|domain parking]]. The line "This page provided to the domain owner free by Sedo's Domain Parking" down at the bottom of the page also seems to support this. Anyway, just letting you know. [[User:67.78.136.222|67.78.136.222]] 06:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)(KaloFoxfire)

== Stuck in his Craw ==
hey, what does it mean to get something stuck in your craw? and should it be mentioned here under remarks or something?
--{{User:Choc-O-Lardiac_Arrest/sig}} 05:48, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
:Here's what [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stick%20in%20one's%20craw dictionary.com] has to say about it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Verifying my Edit ==

I just put on the following, because I thought it was a good idea. 
<blockquote>*This E-mail also explains why the King of Town is so fat and where The Cheat came from.</blockquote> 
I'm putting it on the discussion page to see if anyone disagrees with me. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 19:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

:Gosh, this fact seems familiar. I think it has come and gone before, but I don't know. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

==We've got this season,last season,and stuff I just made up!==
What is the Last season(Tandy) email supposed to be?(guest)
:Did you check the transcript. "Last season. {He gestures to the right where a screen from '''"band names"''' appears.} "—[[User:Geshmalderborgen|גשמלדרברגן]] 23:16, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

==Rainbow Bridge==

Could the rainbow bridge refer to Care Bears, who used a rainbow to come from Care-A-Lot to Earth? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 01:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

:It could be, but there are other [[wikipedia:Rainbow Bridge|rainbow bridges]] out there as well. So it would be speculation.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:43, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I think this should be included in the "Real-World" references, because I'm sure a lot of people will remember the Care Bears doing that when this email is viewed or when they read this page.

See, I thought it was a Katamari Damacy reference, so unless we can get a definite noting should be added.
:Well, it certainly couldn't be that, since Katamari didn't come out in the US until a good 6 months after this toon. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

== WIIIIIDE SCREEEEN! ==

The way that Strongbad says "WIIIIIDE SCREEEEEN" could be a reference to Universe Of Energy, a ride located at Epcot in Walt Disney World. Ellen DeGeneres says this the same way before the screen widens. [[User:DNA Evidence|DNA Evidence]] 00:13, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

:Do you know when the ride was made? When I went (in 2005), I don't recall hearing about any such ride. Because if it came after, it's not a reference. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 00:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yes. It was DEFINATELY made before 2005. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe_of_Energy Wikipedia article!] {{User:DNA Evidence/sig}}

==Lowercase I==

Because it's all written, does it count? [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 17:07, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

== Modestly Hot Easter Egg ==

Should [[Modestly Hot Homsar]] be in the Characters list?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 02:03, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
:nope, pictures don't count. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

==Time Paradox?==
How would Old-Timey Strong Bad know that present-day Strong Bad would read 100 emails? In fact, how did he even know Strong Bad ''was'' reading emails? {{User:Reversinator/sig}}
:Basically just because it's a cartoon and the laws of not knowing the future don't apply if it's funny for them not to. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:22, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:: Just repeat to yourself "it's just a show. I should really just relax."--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 14:47, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

== Lier? ==

when SB said "I lost count around... 51." Tht is not true. proof? SBemail 91. hIs intro song is "'''And coming in at number 91, it's EMAAIL!!!!!!'''

User talk:TheMac04

Jibblejibblejibble — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:41:01 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /**/OMG, YOU ARE JUST IKE ME. i made u this word: inchested and that was like 3 years ago... this is a long title...

== OMG, YOU ARE JUST IKE ME. i made u this word: inchested and that was like 3 years ago... this is a long title... ==

So yea i made up a word inchested it means in chested. I dont think your page is anything to do with the wiki.you are my type. oh, crp i forgot to take my medz ahh well your cool and plotox haahaha i use your word.

extra plug

Jibblejibblejibble — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:34:33 GMT

Jibblejibblejibble: /* Remarks */

{{sbenav|116}}
[[Image:sbemail116.PNG|thumb|"Nobody move! Gonna be a long week!"]]

Strong Bad shows us his awesome new [['Lectric Boots]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The King of Town}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Basement of the Brothers Strong]], [[Club Technochocolate]] (Easter egg), [[King of Town's Castle]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, October 11, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 3:23

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Ow ow ow... Ow ow oww... Ow ow owww... Email...

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="email">Dear S to the B, 
I noticed that you always have an 
extra plug socket open under your 
desk. Isn't there something cool you 
could plug in there? 
Simcity, 
Justin Corcoran, MASS</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Awww, I ''hate'' getting these mass emails! ''{typing}'' REMOVE ME! UNSUBSCRIBE! TAKE ME OFFA LIST! ''{clears screen, continues typing}'' Well HUGE to the DORK, your timing couldn't be more perfect, as I just received my new electric boots in the mail today. Check out these features.

''{Strong Bad stops typing and produces a box of 'Lectric Boots.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No fewer than 8 lights flashing at any given time. Whisper quiet, and, uh, check out that guy dancing with that hot girl. That's gonna be ''me'' at the club, and the hot girl will be The Cheat— er, I mean, an actual hot girl. ''{speaking as the guy on the box}'' Hey there, fruit pie...the magician. Wanna dance? ''{speaking as the girl on the box}'' Yes, I would like to be your girlfriend based solely on your awesome boots!

''{Strong Bad sets the box on his desk. We pull back and see that Strong Bad is wearing the electric boots, with The Cheat under the desk near the empty socket.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, The Cheat, let's do this.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises that sound like "OK!"}''

''{The Cheat plugs in the boots, causing the lights on the boots to come on and a loud, vacuum-cleaner-like humming to start. The Cheat puts his hands over his ears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting over the noise}'' Whoa! Check out those lights. They're flashing!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{questioning The Cheat noises, shouting}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting}'' I said, check out the flashing lights!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{questioning The Cheat noises, shouting}''

''{The Cheat leaves the room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting}'' Hey, where are you going? Wait up!

''{Strong Bad gets up and walks to follow The Cheat, until he reaches the end of his cord.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting}'' I'm gonna need an extension cord.

''{Strong Bad sits back in front of the Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing, shouting}'' Attention all interested ladies: Please have electrical sockets installed every 5 feet before inviting me over to your apartment or dormroom. So, I guess I'm awex— ''{The power goes out.}'' SOME IS THE REASON WHY!! ''{typing, despite power outage}'' Whoa. I guess these boots suck up a lot of energy. Maybe that's what "solid state" means. I suppose I can stop typing now. ''{stops typing}'' I'm gonna need some help finishing this email without power.

''{Cut to the darkened basement. Strong Mad, Strong Sad, and The Cheat appear to be watching TV, and are laughing. Strong Bad walks in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What are you guys watching?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Shhh!

''{Cut to the TV screen, where a picture of Andy Griffith's head is taped on. Strong Mad, Strong Sad, and The Cheat start laughing again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' You guys are watching a picture of Andy Griffith's head taped to a TV?

''{Cut back to the view of the couch. Homestar walks in.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, has it started yet? I brought some popcorn! ''{He produces a popcorn bag containing a bottle of [[Mountain Dew]].}'' Dang, Strong Bad, I like your boots.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look, I'm going to need some help finishing up this email. Will somebody give me a hand?

'''STRONG MAD:''' WHEN THIS IS OVER!!!

''{Cut back to the Compy 386. We can hear that the boots are running again. Strong Sad is holding up a piece of black paper in front of the monitor, which he lowers to reveal Strong Bad's "typed" text as Strong Bad is typing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing, shouting}'' Well, whatever your name was, the boots are back in action, and so am I. I can already tell they're gonna be a hit when I wear them to da club ''{pronounced as before}'' this weekend. The ladies can't resist flashing lights and an obnoxiously loud hum! ''{stops typing}'' All right, Strong Mad! Go!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down with Strong Mad producing the sound effect. Cut back from Strong Bad's desk to see Strong Mad holding The Cheat upside-down over the Compy 386, with The Cheat holding the paper in his hands. The extra plug has been burnt. Strong Sad is holding the black piece of paper he used to obscure Strong Bad's text, and Homestar is wrapped in an extension cord leading from Strong Bad's boots elsewhere. A few seconds later, Strong Bad starts speaking}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Way to go, guys! I doubt ''anyone'' could tell the difference between a regular email and this unplugged email. Now keep holdin' it. Nobody move! Gonna be a long week!

''{A few more seconds later, Homestar starts talking.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{rhythmically}'' I really got. I really gotta pee. I really got. I really gotta pee pee. I really got. I really gotta pee.

''{Strong Sad joins Homestar.}''

'''STRONG SAD AND HOMESTAR:''' ''{rhythmically}'' I really got. I really gotta pee pee. I really got. I really gotta pee. I really got. I really gotta pee pee.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That is a disgusting song.

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:clubtechnochocolate.png|thumb|"All is on! Feel it, feel it, feel it, feel it!"]]
*At the end, click on either of Strong Bad's boots to see Strong Bad and The Cheat at Club Technochocolate.
:''{Strong Bad and The Cheat are at Club Technochocolate. Strong Bad dancing wearing his 'lectric boots near an outlet. The boots are making their usual loud humming noise. The Cheat is standing nearby plugging his ears with a couple of [[The Cheat's Glowsticks|glowsticks]].}''
:'''MUSIC:''' ''{background}'' All is on! Feel it, feel it, feel it, feel it! All is o—
:''{The power goes out and the Cheat unplugs his ears.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, The Cheat! Let's keep this party movin'! On to the next club!
:''{Strong Bad unplugs his boots and walks offscreen.}''
*Also at the end, click on the extension cord to see what the 'Lectric Boots '''are''' plugged into.
:''{Cut to The King of Town's castle. An extension cord can be seen running from a sparking plugin out a window and into the distance. A sign has been placed near the plugin reading "auxilliary food-related thing. DO NOT UNPLUG!" The King of Town is standing nearby holding a piece of paper.}''
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' This electricity bill is ''pretendous''!

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#death track|death track]]".

===Remarks===
*[[Wikipedia:Solid state (electronics)|Solid state]] refers to transistor electronics, vs. old vacuum tube or mechanical technology. In the '50s through the mid-'80s (the boots appearing to have come from the '70s), manufacturers would stamp "solid state" on their various devices, signifying that they were "state-of-the-art", tube-less electronics. These so-called "Solid State" boots apparently use a large and noisy vacuum cleaner motor, which runs contrary to the concept of solid state technology.
*In the Technochocolate Easter egg, The Cheat appears to be plugging his ears with the glowsticks, which can give us a rough estimated location of his ears beneath all that fur.
*Even though only one of Strong Bad's boots is plugged in, both boots work.
*During the unplugged email, there are burn marks around the free socket under his desk... It seems that when the boots "fused," the plug actually melted and/or caught on fire.
*Although there are burn marks around the extra plug under Strong Bad's desk after he blows the power, there are no marks around the plug at Technochocolate when he blows the power there.
*At the end, when the gang are maintaining the "unplugged e-mail", Strong Bad remarks that it is going to be a long week. It turned out to be four weeks until the next email, [[montage]].
*Viewing the Flash file shows Homestar sitting down fully on the floor, but he does not seem to have a bottom, as his legs bend up into his shirt.
**This was also seen in [[flashback]] and [[79 Seconds Left]].
*The King of Town's bill has the title 'Lectric bill, spelled just like Strong Bad's 'Lectric Boots.
*Strong Bad's humming sounds a bit like the opening theme to John Carpenter's [[Wikipedia:Assault on Precinct 13 (1976 film)|''Assault on Precinct 13'']].
*When Strong Bad glances at the plug before he says he needs an extension cord, the eye closer to us is smaller than the eye farther away from us, similar to [[:Image:Strongbadweirdeyes.PNG|this screenshot]].
*The back button is clickable even before it zooms out, even though there is not enough time to see and click it unless you were planning on it.
* When the two are at Club Technochocolate, the way SB walks is the same way as when he was walking with his foot pelts.

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad's boots stop making noises in the end even though the lights are flashing.
*In the Club Technochocolate scene, the Cheat's glowsticks do not actually glow - when the power goes out, they are lit the same as the surrounding area. They do seem to have a "glowing effect" around them even so.
*If you view an Easter egg and wait, Strong Bad will repeat his "long week" statement and Homestar and Strong Sad will sing the song again.
*The power cord is initially on the right boot when The Cheat first plugs it in. Then, when the boots are plugged into the extension cord the cord is on the left boot. Finally, in the Easter egg at Club Technochocolate, the cord is back on the right boot.
*In the Easter egg in the King of Town's castle hall, Strong Bad has misspelled "auxiliary" as "auxilliary" on his sign.

===Glitches===
*The contrast knob on the Compy stops working when Strong Bad addresses "all interested ladies" even though the power is still on.
*The contrast knob on the Compy is still clickable when Strong Bad holds up the box for the 'Lectric Boots.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad started to spell the word "awexome" before the power went out, a reference to the email [[monster truck]] and [[Awexome Cross]].
*"Dang, Strong Bad, I like your boots!" is a reference to the cartoon [[New Boots]].
*The King of Town's statement about his electric bill being "[[Glossary#P|pretendous]]" is a reference to the [[Fan Costume Commentary|Strong Bad Fan Costume Commentary]].
*The "[[All Is On]]" song in [[Club Technochocolate]] is from an Easter egg in [[for kids]].
*Club Technochocolate is a reference to the email [[monument]].
*The [[sound effect]] of Strong Bad's boots when he is walking is identical to that of [[Stinkoman]]'s boots in [[Under Construction]].
**The sound effect is much like metal making contact with metal even though Strong Bad is walking on carpet (and later, in [[Club Technochocolate]], plexiglass)
*The TV that had [[Wikipedia:Andy Griffith|Andy Griffith]]'s head taped to it was the [[Telebision]] from the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu]].
*The Cheat's [[Glow Sticks]] are references to the emails [[techno]] and [[monument]].

===Real-World References===
*The way Strong Bad pronounces 'da club' throughout the email is a reference to [[Wikipedia:50 Cent|50 Cent's]] hit single 'In Da Club', where he rounds off the 'u' in the word 'club' the same way.
*[[Wikipedia:Fruit Pie the Magician|"Fruit Pie the Magician"]] is a reference to the mascot for [[Wikipedia:Hostess|Hostess]] brand fruit pies.
*"S to the B" is an example of a common hip-hop/rap method of joining two names, words, or letters.
*Andy Griffith is an actor, known for his appearances in the television programs [[Wikipedia:The Andy Griffith Show|The Andy Griffith Show]] and [[Wikipedia:Matlock|Matlock]].

===Fast Forward===
*Rather than one, the [[montage|next email]] was released four weeks later, on November 8th.
*'Lectric Boots are mentioned in the Strongest Man in the the World book DVD commentary.
*Strong Bad's 'Lectric Boots are also an unlockable costume item in [[SBCG4AP]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
Commentary by: [[Jonathan Howe]], [[Ryan Sterritt]], [[Mike Chapman]]

'''JONATHAN:''' Hey, it's Jonathan, Ryan, and Mike!

'''MIKE:''' It's true.

'''RYAN:''' It is true.

'''MIKE:''' Identify yourself, Ryan.

'''RYAN:''' I'm Ryan.

'''MIKE:''' Ryan, um, does our video editing and made, he made this DVD that you're watching. And Jonathan made that game that you were probably playing on our website earlier.

'''JONATHAN:''' Directly before watching this DVD.

'''MIKE:''' That's right. And directly after. Um...

'''JONATHAN:''' SimCity.

'''MIKE:''' And so...

'''JONATHAN:''' Yeah, I made SimCity myself.

''{Everyone laughs}''

'''JONATHAN:''' With these guys. I'm from Massachusetts. Yeah, Mass!

'''MIKE:''' Where are you from, Ry?

'''RYAN:''' Uhhhhh... Little Virginia, little Florida.

'''MIKE:''' Little Columbus, Georgia. Right?

'''RYAN:''' Little, Columbus, Georgia. That's uh, interesting place.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah?

'''RYAN:''' I like your boots.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we had some...

''{Jonathan laughs}''

'''JONATHAN:''' What is Ol' Fatty's?

'''MIKE:''' What?

'''JONATHAN:''' Ol' Fatty's!

'''RYAN:''' Hey is that from giracer?

'''MIKE:''' I don't know where that's from.

'''RYAN:''' Ol' Fatty's? And they're purring there.

'''MIKE:''' They're whisper quiet.

'''RYAN:''' I like it when you draw people like that. On your kids' books and your magazines.

'''MIKE:''' Matt drew those. Those are definitely Matt's style.

'''RYAN:''' This is about to get real loud.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we should talk loud now, guys.

''{Everybody raises their voices}''

'''RYAN:''' Yeah.

'''JONATHAN:''' Can you hear me? What's the game of the day?

'''MIKE:''' Uhhhhhhhh...

'''RYAN:''' Death Track.

'''JONATHAN:''' Death Track.

'''MIKE:''' Death Track was a great game. It was a racing game where you had to shoot, uh, a futuristic racing game where you had to shoot other cars. Activision. Activision or Dynamix, I'm not sure which.

'''JONATHAN:''' It's weird that Activision and Electronic Arts are still around. They're like the kings!

'''MIKE:''' Activision is older than Electronic is older than Electronic, well I guess that Electronic Arts is pretty old. But Activision made Atari games in 1982.

'''RYAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Good for them. People got confused why he started yelling when it got dark.

'''RYAN:''' I got, I'm confused Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Well its sort of like, if you're, ummm, pulling a really heavy wagon, and then someone takes all the weight out of the wagon, you're pulling at the same, and you just start running forward.

'''JONANTHAN:''' It's like a record stopping too. It just gets loud.

'''RYAN:''' Sorry, I was listening to you, but I turned to see Andy Griffith taped to the TV. And it was a little bit strange.

'''MIKE:''' So, that is from our cousin Jim. One of the many things we've stolen from him. There was this family, he claimed, that uh, that lived near him that didn't have a working TV and just taped a picture of Andy Griffith's head to the TV. Yet another example of Matt and I just stealing bits of our friends' and relatives' everyday lives.

'''JONATHAN:''' What about Lincoln version?

'''MIKE:''' Lincoln version we thought of.

'''RYAN:''' It's a good bit. You gotta, gotta, a lot of good bits.

'''MIKE:''' Do a bit Ryan. Hurry up.

'''RYAN:''' How about them boots, eh? They're flashin, and stuff...

'''MIKE:''' That's a good bit. How long does this thing go on for before the email ends?

'''JONATHAN:''' I think for a while. This is a waiting Easter.

'''MIKE:''' Ohhhh, so we, uhh, get to hear, uhhh, the pee song?

'''JONATHAN:''' Oh yes, right. It's going to come up. People liked the pee song.

'''MIKE:''' My mom liked the pee song. I think that she was ashamed, that she really thought it was funny. But she, you know...

'''RYAN:''' That's not something you really want to admit to a friend.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, she was a little embarrassed.

'''RYAN:''' So did you have those boots, growing up?

'''MIKE:''' I still got them! I'm wearing them right now Ryan!

'''JONATHAN:''' Remember moon boots?

'''MIKE:''' Yes, I do remember moon boots.

'''RYAN:''' They had, like, two inches or so of plastic at the bottom. You feel like you're in space.

'''MIKE:''' I agree.

'''JONATHAN:''' I bet there are remixes of that floating around.

'''MIKE''': I want to remix it.

===Fun Facts===
*[[Wikipedia:SimCity|SimCity]] is a popular city-making game series by [[Wikipedia:Maxis|Maxis]] and [[Wikipedia:Electronic Arts|EA Games]].
*[[Wikipedia:Activision|Activision]] was founded in 1979 and first made games for the [[Atari 2600]]. It is indeed older than [[Wikipedia:Electronic Arts|Electronic Arts]], which was founded in 1982 and first made games for the [[Wikipedia:Atari 800|Atari 800]]. [[Wikipedia:Dynamix|Dynamix]] was founded in the early 1980s and developed many of the games seen in Strong Bad's [[Floppy Disk Container]] including Deathtrack.

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