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Talk:Cheat Commandos

Helios Rex — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:45:37 GMT

Helios Rex: Costumes

== Just "Cheat Commandos" ==

Why is this article called ''The'' Cheat Commandos? Last time I checked, they went by Cheat Commandos. {{User:Rogue Leader.sig}} 22:56, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I would think that's because the character is called [[The Cheat]], therefore it would be called The Cheat Commandos instead of just Cheat Commandos.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 02:27, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::But they ''do'' go by Cheat Commandos"...{{User:Rogue Leader.sig}} 02:27, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::bkmlb's logic is flawed. I do agree with Rogue here. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:35, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I don't know. I just was trying to think of a way to make the name work. But they say ''The'' Cheat Commandos in the song, but that's grammar. Oh, nevermind!--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 02:40, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

So, is it ok if I move it? {{User:Rogue Leader.sig}} 02:51, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I don't think you can without the help of a sysop. "Cheat Commandos" already exists as a redirect. I don't think the wiki will let you. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:54, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Couldn't we change the redirect to The Cheat Commandos, and move this to Cheat Commandos? {{User:Rogue Leader.sig}} 03:03, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh. Make ''The Cheat Commandos'' redirect to ''Cheat Commandos'', and copy the content to ''Cheat Commandos''? No. We want to preserve the edit history. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:04, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::No, I meant make The Cheat Commandos a redirect, and move this. {{User:Rogue Leader.sig}} 03:10, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::No, because ''Cheat Commandos'' would still exist, and it won't let you move something to a page that already exists. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:12, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::It's dot com solved this. {{User:Rogue Leader.sig}} 03:14, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::::There are countless references to "Cheat Commandos" this or that, but the only time you see "the Cheat Commandos" is when they're being talked about collectively, like "the G.I. Joe guys" or "the Denver Broncos." I don't think "The" is part of their name, and like Rogue said, I took care of moving the page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:49, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Costumes ==

Does anyone notice that none of the Cheat Commandos where commando outfits that reflect their specialties? Like Fightgar never uses his ammo and Firebert never uses his stealth clothes. I mean look at it.

Talk:Fightgar

Helios Rex — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:37:47 GMT

Helios Rex:

Why doesn't this guy ever use his ammo? He's more of a spy. -[[Helios Rex|Helios Rex]]

Talk:Fightgar

Helios Rex — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:37:19 GMT

Helios Rex: Fightgar's ammo

Why doesn't this guy ever use his ammo? He's more of a spy. -[[Helios Rex:Helios Rex]]

Stinkoman 20X6

Helios Rex — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 04:02:35 GMT

Helios Rex: /* Real-World References */

[[Image:stinkogame.png|thumb|Always looking for a fighting or a challenge.]]

''Blue hair, anyone? Stinkoman's always got fightings and challenges to keep him busy. Jump and shoot your way to all ends of Planet K. End Boss feature!!'' --[[Videlectrix]] description

'''Stinkoman 20X6''' is a side-scrolling platformer game which stars [[Stinkoman]]. This game is based on the [[Wikipedia:Mega Man Classic|classic Capcom ''Mega Man'' series]]. It also parodies the [[Wikipedia:Engrish|poor "Japanese to English" translations]] common to video games of that era, similar to those that appear on the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|current Games Menu]].

[[The Brothers Chaps]] demonstrated the game at [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|their talk at NYU]] before it was released.

'''Date:''' March 21, 2005

[[Image:stinkobox.png|thumb|Stinkoman 20X6 box art]]

==Updates==

*March 21, 2005 - Debut
*April 26, 2005 - Level 4 Added
*May 9, 2005 - Level 5 Added
*May 16, 2005 - Level 6 Added
*July 4, 2005 - Level 7 Added
*August 1, 2005 - Level -0/8 Added

== Easter Eggs ==
* Hover your mouse below "Controls" on the main menu to access the [[Stinkomanual]].
** When you click it, "loading manuél" appears briefly.
* Wait long enough at the title screen to see an [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough#Transcript|intro cinematic]].
* Stay still long enough and Stinkoman will yawn.
** On the Level 4 stages, after yawning Stinkoman will rest against his giant fist.
** On the Level 5 stages, [[1-Up]] will fall asleep and blow a [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble snot bubble].
** On the Level 7 stages, Stinkoman will shiver and eventually freeze (this costs you one unit of energy.)

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
* This is the first time we have seen [[Stinkoman Headquarters|Stinkoman's House]]. (Or any 20X6 character's house, for that matter).
*In the "Game Over" screen, Stinkoman has a green tongue, just like Strong Bad in [[Super NES]], although it's red or pink all other times that it is seen in the game — though the green tongue may be due to the fact that his "stummy hurts."
**Just as well, 1-Up's "Game Over screen" has him standing with the caption "My tongue is green..."
**The Level -0 "Game Over screen" has a glitched up sprite of Stinkoman and 1-Up with the caption "Sorry, Hamburger."
* In the bottom right-hand corner of the PLAY GAME! screen it says "V6.0 EPISODES 1-8"
** It said "V5.0 EPISODES 1-7" until August 1, 2005, when the eighth level was added.
** It said "V4.0 EPISODES 1-6" until July 4, 2005, when the seventh level was added.
** It said "V3.0 EPISODES 1-5 THUS FAR" until May 16, 2005, when the sixth level was added.
** It said "V2.0 EPISODES 1-4" until May 9, 2005, when the fifth level was added.
** It said "V1.X EPISODES 1-3" until April 26, 2005, when the fourth level was added.
* This game used to lack the gray navbar at the bottom of the screen to move to other parts of the website. But when Level 4 was added the links were added also.
* The quality of the music in Level 7 onward is higher than the other ones, resulting in sharper sound.
* In versions 4 (and below) the Flash 7 Warning in the bottom left corner read "FLASH PLAYER 7 REQUIRED". In version 5 it read "FLASH 7 VERY REQUIRED". In version 6 it reads "FLASH 7 REQUIRED, 8 IS COOL TOO".
* In the beginning of level 6, in the cutscene when Stinkoman is playing the game the music is the same as the moon level. When he gets Game Over it is also the same music you get when it's Game Over. He might be playing Stinkoman 20X6!
*When world 8/-0 was first released, the Poorbt at the beginning of level -0.1 came from the right side of the screen. It now comes from the left.

=== Remarks ===
* This is the second instance of sprites modeled after 8-bit Megaman, the first instance being with Coach Z in [[Hip Hop Dance]].
*On Levels 4.1 and 4.2, Stinkoman can actually fall down in certain spots to join 1-Up, but you will eventually lose because there will be no one to jump on the tiles.
*1-Up jumps higher than Stinkoman. This may be due to the fact that 1-Up's level is on [[The Moon|the moon]].
* To get capsules that are hiding behind enemies without having to kill the enemy, run into the enemy with health to spare. You will take damage, grab the crunch and will be invincible long enough to escape unharmed.
*The head of the [[Shadowy Figure|silhouette]] at the end of Levels 5 and 6 and beginning of 7 and -0 appears to match the head of [[20X6 Coach Z]] in the Games menu.
*Stinkoman "breaks the [[Fourth Wall Breaks|Fourth Wall]]" by saying (in Level 5) "No way! I helped you in Level 4!"
**He does it again at the end of Level -0 by saying that 1-Up and [[Pan Pan]] "are on Level 10."
*1-Up is slower at climbing ladders than Stinkoman is, perhaps due to his lack of visible arms.
*The meteors in Level 5 cause the game to lag for a split second when they crash. This may be done on purpose to emulate how easy it is to put stress on older game systems.
*This is the first new game not to use some sort of scoring system.
*In Episode 4, when Stinkoman is facing to the right, his giant fist powerup is a left hand but when he turns around the fingers are still facing the player so it turns into a right hand. This "sprite mirroring" is common in older games to conserve memory. A notable exception is Metroid, in which Samus is always left handed.
*When 1-Up falls into the fiery lava below (usually when a platform is not in the right position), the screen pans to the right for a little bit before losing the life. Is 1-Up still walking down there?
*The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different from the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.
*There are three kinds of ladders used in the game: Ladders with small rungs (1.1, 1.2, 5.2), ladders with large rungs (2.1, 2.2, 5.1, 6.1), and ladders with duck rungs (8.1, 8.2)
*If you type in the URL for volume 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, for a split second the page title will say "Old Stinkoman Game Page R.I.P." then it will take you to the current one.
*The sound made when collecting a power crunch or an extra life is the same as cracking a Bitzar.
*In Level 2.3, if you listen closely, when Brody tries to peck you, you can hear him shriek. Also, Ekersby shrieks when he raises his arms.
*The background music of the cutscene of level 1.1 is the same as the music in the background of the level 3.1 cutscene.
*It is possible to get a ton of extra lives in level -0.2 Since there are two extra lives available, once you get both, you can die and start over, gaining one more for each time.
*All of the voice clips in the game have been taken from previous 20X6 'toons and sped up.

=== Goofs ===
*Manual inconsistencies:
**Kolkaryu is listed under level 2, but Kolkaryu already appears in level 1.
**Old Sage is listed under level 2, but Old Sages already appear in level 1.
**Level 3 is called "Dumb Wall" on the level select screen, but it's called "Up 'n' Down" in the instruction manual.
**In Level 1 in the manual, the original version said "face treats" instead of "fave treats."
**Level 3 is the only part to have its title constantly on the top of the page. All of the other Levels' titles disappear after the first page.
**When v4 (Level 6) and v5 (Level 7) were first put up, The Brothers Chaps forgot to update the [[Stinkomanual]] to include Level 6. This was fixed, but the release of version 5 seemingly broke it again. Later in the day, the level 6 section was replaced, the level 7 section was added.
[[Image:level1.jpg|thumb|Level 1 or Level 1.1? ]]
*In the Videlectrix catalogue, if you click Stinkoman 20X6, a screenshot of the game will appear. In the bottom right corner, it says "Level 1" and not "Level 1.1"
*Any damage you took as Stinkoman in levels 3 and 4 will remain on 1-Up in level 5, even though they're not the same person.
**Similarly, any damage you took as 1-Up in Level 5 will remain on Stinkoman when you progress to level 6.
*The two Pooru-Poorus at either end of Stlunko seem to be hovering above the ground.
*When you fall off the conveyor belt on Stlunko and stand on the ground below the belt, you'll still be carried along with it. (However, once you jump or are hit by one of the Pooru-Poorus, you appear back on the conveyor belt.)
*When Stinkoman wears his giant fist, it is slightly larger than when Stlunko has it.
*Before level 4, 1-UP says he is taking a short cut. Before level 5, they are back at Stinkoman Headquarters. The "short cut" didn't go anywhere!
*In levels 4.1 and 4.2, if Stinkoman walks directly beneath the lavafall and then hits the ground with the rock fist, he apparently deflects the lava with his head.
*In levels 4.1 and 4.2, if Stinkoman is killed while blocking a lavafall, the lavafall goes back to normal, and 1-Up will also be killed. This is the only way that you can lose two lives.


=== Glitches ===
[[Image:stinkogame slow.png|thumb|Glitch for Flash 6 and under.]]
*When the game was first released, you could skip (press space or click) the first part of the final movie (any part before the MORE LEVELS TO COME SCENE) to enter stage 3.4. It was the Stlunko arena without Stlunko: a slightly elevated platform above the ground with two Pooru-Poorus on either side. You could continue traveling rightwards into a barren land before reaching an endless cliff.
**This glitch is now fixed. However, if you play the swf you can still play 3.4.
**This again happened in level 4 when it was first released. However, this glitch has been fixed as well.
***Also, if you die once on level 4.4 there will be no ground when you return.
* If you fall long enough and don't touch anything, Stinkoman will stop doing his falling pose and act like he's standing and will even start to yawn. Such a long fall can be found in stage 2.2, 6.1, and 6.2.
[[Image:stinkoman-glitch.png|thumb|Stinkoman stands on air!]]
* If you die with only one life left after defeating a boss, the usual "die" sequence will happen, but then Stinkoman will do his victory dance with no ground beneath him and you will start the next stage with no lives, which will increase by one life and the "Game Over" screen will appear the next time he dies in the next stage.
* Sometimes you can start up a new game and it will be nothing but Stinkoman and the background. Since there's no ground, you can only fall and die. This may be linked to older versions of Flash.
** A possible reason that this happens is because earlier versions of Flash may not be able to read the levelData xml files.
*When Stinkoman is about to yawn, his sprite character moves down one pixel.
[[Image:stinkogame-level22-terrell-glitch.png|thumb|Stuck Terrell on level 2.2]]
*In the beginning of level 2.2, there's a Terrell just behind a stove. It seems that it's possible for the Terrell to get "stuck" just to the right of the stove. It will continue to hop up and down (without moving horizontally at all), and Stinkoman can pass through the Terrell without becoming injured. It also becomes impossible to kill.
**Another Terrell (the one above the second burner) on Level 2.1 can get stuck, also.
*In level 1.1, if you don't kill the Jaro by the first wall and instead just go past it and the wall under the second browntant, the Jaro may be jumping in mid-air.
**It can even jump through the wall.
*If you use a seek bar, then it is possible to access level Undefined.Undefined. This level is just a grey hole, which Stinkoman is doomed to fall down. Stinkoman's Life Number is always either 8, or not there. Regardless, after he falls down once, the game over screen appears. It is just like a boss arena - the music is from the boss levels, and Stinkoman even shouts "Are you asking for a challenge?" as you enter. The items counter is also shown, as it is in level 3.1.
*In Levels 4.1 and 4.2, if a and s are pressed at the same time as you're falling into the level from the left, Stinkoman will float instead of walk.
[[Image:PinkChamCham.jpg|thumb|A Pink Cham Cham firing only the left laser]]
*In level 4.2, if you approach a Pink Cham Cham from the left and see only the left side of it as it fires, when you approach towards the right to see the rest of it, it will only have fired the laser on the left side.
**This may also happen in level -0.1 or -0.2.
*If you die at the beginning of 5.2 before the ship at the top flies by, it will fly by on the Keep Try screen.
**This also happens on level 5.1.
*If you kill a boss, but die by one of its shots, the "Game Over screen" appears, but the cutscene appears afterwards and you continue with one life gone and will have no energy the next level.
*A Jaro on one of the conveyor belts on level 5.1 can go behind the wall.
*On level 6.2, after the second Protek, on the bottom level, you go on a series of moving white solid clouds. After killing a Jaro, you have to time yourself to fall through an evaporating cloud to land on another white solid. If you're on the evaporating cloud, and you move to the left, you'll be stuck falling in place on the wall. You can't jump, only move left and right and fire.
*If you die in level 4.1 or 4.2 by a Poorbt or by falling in the lava, 1-Up keeps walking. If he hits an enemy or a lava-fall before the level restarts, he will die too, and you'll lose 2 lives.
*In Level 7.1, in around the middle of the level, you can get caught between a wall and an ice platform. Shooting, running and jumping cannot move you; yet jumping towards either side will cause Stinkoman will keep flipping for as long as you hold the arrow keys.
*In Level 7.1 or 7.2, you will not freeze if you stay on a ladder.
*In Level 7.1 or 7.2, you will not freeze if you hold the up or down button.
*In Level 7.1 or 7.2, if you don't move at all after freezing, you won't freeze again.
*Playing around with a seek bar with Level 7.1 already loaded can allow you to find a spot with every song from every level playing at once.
*Fooling with a seek bar towards the beginning of the Flash file allows you to also find an object library of sorts.
*Sometimes, losing a life in 1.3 will result in Stinkoman returning to the level without ground, causing him to fall to his death. This is also reported to happen in 2.3.
*When version 6 was first released, Level -0 always appeared in the top slot in the CONTINUTE menu even if you scrolled through the levels. This was fixed later in the day.
*In the flash file if you right click and press forward and play, you get the game over screen but the level music will still play.
**If you do this on 3.2, bread, apples, and the other stuff from that level will come up in the next level.
*If you press A immediately at the very beginning of a level where Stinkoman starts in the air, Stinkoman will look like he is walking on ground for a moment, and he will then jump in the air.

=== Inside References ===
* "Check out my new gameplay!" is a reference to Stinkoman's quote "Check out my new cosplay!" in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
* Level 3.2 reveals that Stinkoman hates apples, just as Strong Bad does in [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]].
* The health-restoring pills are a reference to the capsule containing the "power crunch" from the Strong Bad Email [[time capsule]].
**They are also a reference to the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]], where you can get similar capsules to change your ship.
* Grundy's illustration in the manual shows him running in a manner similar to [[Homestar Runner]].
* Stlunko, the level 3 boss, bears a striking resemblance to the [[Visor Robot]].
*The Rose Blake's description in the manual as a "'Lectric burner" is a reference to the email [[extra plug]], where Strong Bad gets [['Lectric Boots]].
*The line "blast em up [[Dan]]!" is an adaptation of "fry 'em up, Dan!" from [[TROGDOR!]]
*The sentence in the manual, "Falling from the skies and bove", references [[Decemberween Kids' Book]].
*The stobats in Level 2 blow up like the ducks in [[Duck Guardian]] after being hit with the hatch ray.
*1-Up saying "I'm going this way!" is a reference to [[Meet Marshie]].
*1 Up in the level 5 cut scene says "Mooooooon" just like a soy drunken Strong Bad did in [[personal favorites]] and in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] when Strong Bad says, "We're takin' this baby to da MOOOOOOOOOOOON!"
*When 1-Up defeats [[Nebulon]], he says no one likes his style, just like Strong Bad did in [[New Boots]].
*1-Up saying that he's just a kid, and maybe when he's older is a reference to [[japanese cartoon]].
*The ship that flies by at the beginning of 5.1 and 5.2 is featured twice in "japanese cartoon" that was originally intended to be the 20X6 version of [[20X6 The Cheat|The Cheat]].
*The background in Level 5 looks like the third background in the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games menu]].
*The Saargtsson intro cinema contains yet another appearance of Stinkoman's signature attack, the [[Double Deuce]], but this time uses a ''Single Deuce''.
*There are ladders in level -0 that resemble ducks from [[Duck Guardian]].
*The red and green lamps on Level 2 are similar to the one in the bar in the [[Theme Song Video]].

=== Real-World References ===
*The game controller Stinkoman is holding in the cutscene for level 5.1, bears a striking resemblance to the [http://www.gamerzuniverse.net/nintendo/imagesnes/dogbone.jpg redesigned NES controller] (AKA the dogbone controller).
*There are many references to the ''Mega Man'' game series:
** The sprites used for Stinkoman are patterned after 8-bit ''Mega Man'' sprites, and the same applies to the enemy Poorbt and Astromund.
*** In fact, the poses of the [[Videlectrix Mascot]] in the logo are taken directly from the NES ''Mega Man'' series.
** The sounds of the text appearing in the cinematics are also the same as in ''Mega Man''.
***The chime noise for the main menu is taken from the first ''Mega Man X'' game.
** In ''Mega Man V'', there is a chicken robot similar to the chickens encountered in level 2.
** When Stinkoman says that the large gray fist could be a new powerup and takes off with it, this is an obvious reference to Mega Man taking the power of defeated bosses.
** At the start of the first side-scrolling stage the little theme played is very similar to the old ''Mega Man'' starting theme. In fact, the whole soundtrack was probably meant to sound like ''Mega Man'' game music.
** Stinkoman being unable to clear the wall using his normal jump is also a joke from ''Mega Man''.
** When all three characters flash onto the screen during the intro, that is also a ''Mega Man'' reference, where in one of the arcade games (namely ''Mega Man: The Power Battles'') Mega Man, Proto Man, and Bass would flash onto the screen in a similar way.
**The spikes that can kill Stinkoman instantly (Old Sage) are a reference to similar spikes which were placed under moving platforms in Mega Man games and which would also kill Mega Man instantly.
** The dropping platforms are a reference to the original ''Mega Man'', in which similar platforms were found in Guts Man's stage.
**In one portion of level 5.2, if you jump off of the top of a platform, you will see a planet that has a C-shaped portion on its left side. This portion bears a striking similarity to the stylized C in the title of "Chrono Trigger".
** Only three of Stinkoman's flying fists can be on the screen at the same time. In the ''Mega Man'' series, Mega Man's Mega Buster shots also suffer from the same drawbacks. Even in Level 4, Stinkoman can only drop three clusters of rocks onscreen when pounding his giant fist.
***Early sprite-based video games suffered this fate as well. Limiting the number of sprites on screen prevented slow down.
** Greggos are similar to Metalls (also known as Mettaurs, Metools, Mets, or Hard Hats), who were also invincible while ducking.
** Stinkoman fights like Mega Man X by shooting at enemies while 1-Up fights like Zero with acrobatic melee attacks.
** The Bendini Sisters that fall on level 5 are similar to the meteorites that fall in Star Man's stage in Mega Man 5 for the NES.

* Stinkoman's becoming bored when idle is an old gag first found in the old PC game ''[[Wikipedia:Boulder Dash|Boulder Dash]]'', later emulated in ''[[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis)|Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' and countless other titles.
* Right after Tampo blows up in the cinematic, you can hear the same sound that is played in Metroid when Samus phases in.
* Stlunko, 404 is a reference to the 404 error that browsers give when a webpage cannot be found.
* Stlunko is one of many, many video game bosses that consist of a mostly inactive head defended by two enormous disembodied hands. Such bosses are popular in [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda series|The Legend of Zelda]] series, examples being Bongo-Bongo from [[Wikipedia: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|Ocarina of Time]], Gohdan from [[Wikipedia: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker|The Wind Waker]] and Mazaal from [[Wikipedia: The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap|The Minish Cap]].
* Hold B is a reference to ''Super Mario Bros.'' and a few other Nintendo games in which if you held down B, you would run faster or power up your weapon. In this game, holding S (which is like a B button) allows you to rapid fire. In Megaman, this would allow you charge up your shot for a more powerful hit.
* Stinkoman doing a forward flip is a reference to characters such as Samus Aran and Duke Nukem, whose over-the-top flips served little or no in game purpose.
** However, it does allow Stinkoman to jump a small distance further.
* The fade-in is a reference to NES games that had large images in the background fade in. Because the NES did not have many colors to choose from, there would be weird color glitches with some games when they'd have something fade in.
* The first boss, Tampo, is similiar to the final boss of ''Star Fox 64'', which was the giant, floating brain of Andross, which had the same weak point (medulla).
* The manual mentioning this game has no "weepy princess crap" is a reference to the Super Mario series, the Legend of Zelda series, and a few other games where you had to rescue a helpless princess.
** Likewise, Pan Pan being kidnapped references the countless games which featured a random character being kidnapped, such as in Donkey Kong Country 2 or 3.
* The bulky, muscular Stinkoman on the box art is likely a reference to the first and second ''Mega Man'' games, where the original American version of the game's box art had a big, muscular Mega Man that looked nothing like the character in the game. It could also be a reference to [[time capsule]] where Stinko Man got huge muscles from eating a power crunch.
**This problem wasn't exclusive to the Megaman series. Almost every game localized for the U.S had new box art made for it. This continued right up till the days of the SNES.
*The pose with the large fist is a direct reference to the old NES game Battletoads.
*There are a vast number of seemingly unexplainable appearances of letter P in NES-era games. Ranging from P-switches, P-wings, P-gauges etc. in ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', to the Arm Cannon/Mega Buster character designation in ''Mega Man 2''. This may explain the collectible Ps in level 3.
**P most likely stands for "power" in these games.
*Jaro's explosion appears to be modeled after many of the character explosions in ''Rad Gravity'' for the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Entertainment System|NES]].
* Lundsford is a reference to the symbol and/or mascot of [http://www.georgianaturalgas.com/ Georgia Natural Gas]. Billboards featuring this symbol and character can be seen in many places in the Atlanta area where The Brothers Chaps live.
*Saargtsson is most likely a reference to [http://www.zeldauniverse.net/content/view/62/46/ Moldorm] from ''The Legend of Zelda'' video games, who was almost exactly the same in terms of appearance, and having a weakness in its tail.
**This is more accurately a combination of Moldorm and [http://www.flyingomelette.com/kidicarus/kidicarusenemies.html Hewdraw] from ''Kid Icarus''.
*1-Up's spin kick bears a resemblance to the [[wikipedia:Street Fighter|''Street Fighter'']] move "Tatsumaki Senpuu Kyaku" (otherwise known as the Hurricane Kick), which Homestar uses in [[dangeresque 3]].
* The [[Wikipedia:Piedmont_(United States)|Piedmont]] region of the United States is the area between the Atlantic coastal plain and the Appalachian mountains. Atlanta, home of the Brothers Chaps, lies in this region. [[Wikipedia:Piedmont|Piedmont]] is also a region in Northern Italy.
*The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder. In fact, many game have used the method of recoloring an enemy to represent a harder version.
**This was common practice among sprite-based games. To get the most use out of the graphics ROMs, designers would re-use game graphics by drawing them with any of several palettes. An object drawn with a different palette from the same graphic looks identical to the original except for its colors, like Gaspeau and Frotzer, or like the normal Browntant and the blue variant on Level 6.
*The "pink cloud zone" in level 6 could be a reference to countless video games with cloud zones, but is most likely to [[Wikipedia:Earthbound|Earthbound]], where the sixth Your Sanctuary location (in Dalaam) is called Pink Cloud.
*Firey-Hot is a lot like the fire coming out of the cannons in the airship levels on Super Mario Bros. 3.
*Level four is a reference to many such levels in classic period games, (now often called "protect-the-idiot levels"), in which a character would keep walking with no A.I. at all—right towards all sorts of enemies and such traps! Many gamers became annoyed with this, as it would be hard to protect this weakling, and if it died, they died. This design is still used frequently today.
*My Benj is similar to the Bit enemies in Zelda II: The Adventure of Link.
*The Old Sages on the moon look mysteriously like the spikes on the moon in Super Mario Land 2.
*Fullbide's drawing in the "manuel" resembles the shield attacker enemy from various Mega Man games.
*The [[Shadowy Figure|mysterious character]] in the cutscene before level 7.1 is a reference to the evil boss Ashtar from the Nintendo game Ninja Gaiden II, who appears in a silhouette from behind in the [http://www.gamespot.com/nes/action/ninjagaiden2thedarksoc/media.html cutscene] at the beginning of the game, laughs maniacally, and is surrounded by lightning.
*Level -0 (Negatory) is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Minus World|Minus World]] level found in the original ''[[Wikipedia:Super Mario Bros.|Super Mario Bros.]]'' game, which was a glitch that could be found by walking through a wall in level 1-2.
*Stinkoman blasting the wall away in level -0 is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Dragon Ball (Manga)|Dragon Ball]] where a similar attack called the [[Wikipedia:Kamehameha Wave|"Kamehameha Wave"]] is used. It even looks the same when Stinkoman charges it up.
*Negatory is [[Wikipedia:Citizens%27_band_radio|Citizens' Band Radio]] (CB) [http://www.cbgazette.com/slang.html slang] for no or negative.
*[http://www.protekdevices.com/aboutProtek00.htm Protek] is a Tempe, AZ based company specializing in Transient Voltage Suppression products. This may explain why the Protek enemy is an electric outlet.

* Tampo moves in a similar way to that of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Kong_Country_2:_Diddy%27s_Kong_Quest Krow,] the first boss in Donkey Kong Country 2.
*In the cutscene after 6.3, Liekand is defeated and shows that it was a rat after all. This may be a reference to the Sega Genesis game Sonic the Hedgehog, where defeated enemies revealed that they were once an animal.
**The mouse looks amazingly like Mouser, the first and third boss of Doki Doki Panic, or Super Mario Bros. 2.

*Grundy resembles the Cuckoo from Reading Blaster, an educational game by Davidson

== See Also ==
*[[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies]]
*[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough]]

== External Links ==
* [[HR:stinkogame/v6/stinkogame.html|Play Stinkoman 20X6]]
* [[HR:stinkogame/v6/stinkogame.swf|Play the Game (flash file)]]
* [[HR:stinkogame/v6/objectLibrary.swf|See the Stinkoman 20X6 object library]]
* [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|Get The Level Data Files]]
[[Category:Stinkoman 20X6]]

Talk:Marshmallow's Last Stand

Helios Rex — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:50:17 GMT

Helios Rex: /* Opinions */

==Opinions==
I can see why TBC rejected this toon, it's TERRIBLE! I don't know why they rejected the Jumping Jacks one, though. The old site was too cartoony. Part of SB's head came off and he didn't die-or even bleed. Another cartoony thing was that SM bounced into space. This cartoon is just-ughhhhhhh! It sucks like the first season of The Simpsons! '''IT SUCKS!''' Ah, felt good to let that out. -[[User:Shopiom|Shopiom]]

Even though I highly agree with you on this cartoon sucking, I must ask why you said that he didn't even die or bleed as though it's a bad thing? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

I'm just saying that that fact makes it too cartoony. -[[User:Shopiom|Shopiom]] 19:52, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

Dude... it wasn't ''that'' bad. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

I liked this cartoon, and I really hope they make it into a DVD with a modernized version. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:25, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

I liked it to see this old stuff. Yhea, the ''newer'' ones are better b ut it whas fun to see how much they changed.

I agree with FireBird... It's not the greatest, but it doesn't entirely suck. I'd give it 5/10. It's lacking a little. I do like the ''A Jumping Jack Contest'' better though. This is "historic" however, because it showed how much Homestar Runner and everybody have changed.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 13:10, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I didn't like it that much... but it's kind of entertaining watching how much they've improved over the years. --[[User:Skizzot|Skizzot]] 21:48, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

First of all, this cartoon sucks more than The King Of Town's cartoon. but so does a lot of crap in the museum. that's why this cartoon doesn't belong in DVD form, but only in the h*r museum. Secondly, They may have to "set up" the re-release of the cartoon. If the cartoon appears as a full length toon, it should be regarding a character visiting the marshmallow stand and getting information from the employee in a flashback, momentarily interrupted from time to time by events in the current world. since I predict a ridiculously huge cartoon, t should be a story told in two parts. Truly this will be an epic. --[[User:Helios Rex|Helios Rex]]

== How do you watch it? ==

How do you watch it?

Krackajack

The link (mirror) is in the External Links section of the [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|toon]]. And may I suggest [[Special:log in|creating]] a User Name? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

Well, I once went to [[http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com]] and they have everything old tht was on the site. You can view this toon, and the jumping jacks one on that site.[[User:unknown|Unknown]]

:Okay, but like FireBird said, the link for the toon is right at the bottom of the article.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:23, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Donkey Kong? ==

Does anyone think that right after Strong Mad is bounced into space, when Strong Bad jumps in to the ring and jumps from side to side, it could be a reference to the opening sequence from Donkey Kong, where Donkey Kong stomps the girders?

DONKEY KONG ROCKS!!!!!!!!! But I don't know what you're talking about. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

If you don't remember this part, you might be thinking of the NES game, which didn't have this part. The arcade version had a short cutscene before the first level showing Donkey Kong taking Pauline up to the top of the first level and jumping around in a way that's similar to Strong Mad in this, to make the girders tilted the way they are when you start the level. This scene also shows up in the Game Boy version of the game.

== I like it. ==

It's primitive, and a lot more plot-oriented than the later HR content, but it's cute.

Mostly, I just like SB's wrestling stance. ARRRRR.

Me too. I think they should put it back as a museum feature. Unknown

== The sound when Strong Mad is launched into space? ==

I know I've heard that from some very old video game... any ideas where it's from?

Ooo! I know! a game called chicken invaders was an old arcade type shooter with that noise!

Oh....maybe i'll make a flash version of that game....just becouse of the cool sound- [[Sibbie]]

==Old Interview Context==
Look at this:

Mike Chapman: It's been off the site for awhile now. You can see it at www.robofilms.com in the archives section. It's called 'Marshmallows last stand'. It was the first cartoon we did for the site.

Stephan: Oh yeah, the art is really different in those. You can tell its older.

Mike Chapman: Yeah, that's why we took it off the site. The characters are completely different. Saying and doing things they'd never do now.

Just thought ya might wanna know. But this is an old interview. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 02:05, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
==Disambig==
Is the [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|disambiguation page]] really that necessary? I think the place should be just "Marshmallow's Last Stand", while the toon would remain "Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)" with a disambiguation notices at the top. Like [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] said, it's good enough for Wikipedia and it's still good enough for us. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:23, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

:If that was done, I would think we would want the toon to be on the "Marshmallow's Last Stand" page and the place to remain at "Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)", seeing as how the toon eclipses the place.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:39, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Ugh! You linked to a disambig page! Please change that very soon. I'd do it myself, but I don't want to mess with something somebody else wrote. [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]

:Of course he linked to a disambiguation page... That's what they were talking about. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Kinda Creepy==
Does anyone else find it creepy how Strong Mad is always facing the camera in this 'toon and seems to flip around to face us instantly? [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]

== Very little to do ==

I don't know why this toon was called "Marshmallow's Last Stand". It had very little to do with the place. It should have been called "Tag Team Wrestling". -Kinsey
: It's should "have", by the way. Anyway, I'm not saying you're wrong, but that IS the name of the 'toon. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Or maybe it's just a play on the words. "Marshmallow" is Homestar, because he loves them so much and eats them a lot, and it's his "Last Stand." Just a theory, but still. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

==Why?==
why is (toon) at the end of the title...we dont have wheres the cheat (toon) etc..unless its there for a real good reason...then i vote we take that part off...seriously

:Marshmallow's Last Stand is also an actual marshmallow stand, seen in [[date]] for one. --[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] 01:33, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Mike Tyson's Punch Out ==

I was watching this today, and it seemed to me that the crowd noise might have been lifted by TBC from Mike Tyson's Punch Out. It sounds quite similar, from my recollections...Obviously they are fans of the old NES game, as seen in the Easter Egg for [[montage]]. What does anyone else think? --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 16:40, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I just tried it out, and the crowd doesn't really sound the same. Is there a specific part of the toon you are referring to? Punch Out has kind of a dullish roar as opposed the yell-ish type sounds I hear in Marshmallow's Last Stand. Of course, it could just be the speakers on my laptop. I'll try again when I'm home.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:00, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::I'll have to fire up my emulator when i'm at home, and give it a listen...Like i said, i was going off my memory, which apparently might not be so good! --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 12:56, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Hollow Head ==

Strong Bad's head seems to be hollow after the bomb went off on it.

Hello...this was originally a children's series. Kids are not supposed to see gore, although you have no idea how much I have seen in my early years. They had to break that barrier in time, In Yello Dello and reform it, in the TGS series. Poop is as offensive as they will go. [[User:Helios Rex|Helios Rex]]

Talk:Marshmallow's Last Stand

Helios Rex — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:34:49 GMT

Helios Rex: /* Hollow Head */

==Opinions==
I can see why TBC rejected this toon, it's TERRIBLE! I don't know why they rejected the Jumping Jacks one, though. The old site was too cartoony. Part of SB's head came off and he didn't die-or even bleed. Another cartoony thing was that SM bounced into space. This cartoon is just-ughhhhhhh! It sucks like the first season of The Simpsons! '''IT SUCKS!''' Ah, felt good to let that out. -[[User:Shopiom|Shopiom]]

Even though I highly agree with you on this cartoon sucking, I must ask why you said that he didn't even die or bleed as though it's a bad thing? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

I'm just saying that that fact makes it too cartoony. -[[User:Shopiom|Shopiom]] 19:52, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

Dude... it wasn't ''that'' bad. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

I liked this cartoon, and I really hope they make it into a DVD with a modernized version. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:25, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

I liked it to see this old stuff. Yhea, the ''newer'' ones are better b ut it whas fun to see how much they changed.

I agree with FireBird... It's not the greatest, but it doesn't entirely suck. I'd give it 5/10. It's lacking a little. I do like the ''A Jumping Jack Contest'' better though. This is "historic" however, because it showed how much Homestar Runner and everybody have changed.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 13:10, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I didn't like it that much... but it's kind of entertaining watching how much they've improved over the years. --[[User:Skizzot|Skizzot]] 21:48, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== How do you watch it? ==

How do you watch it?

Krackajack

The link (mirror) is in the External Links section of the [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|toon]]. And may I suggest [[Special:log in|creating]] a User Name? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

Well, I once went to [[http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com]] and they have everything old tht was on the site. You can view this toon, and the jumping jacks one on that site.[[User:unknown|Unknown]]

:Okay, but like FireBird said, the link for the toon is right at the bottom of the article.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:23, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Donkey Kong? ==

Does anyone think that right after Strong Mad is bounced into space, when Strong Bad jumps in to the ring and jumps from side to side, it could be a reference to the opening sequence from Donkey Kong, where Donkey Kong stomps the girders?

DONKEY KONG ROCKS!!!!!!!!! But I don't know what you're talking about. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

If you don't remember this part, you might be thinking of the NES game, which didn't have this part. The arcade version had a short cutscene before the first level showing Donkey Kong taking Pauline up to the top of the first level and jumping around in a way that's similar to Strong Mad in this, to make the girders tilted the way they are when you start the level. This scene also shows up in the Game Boy version of the game.

== I like it. ==

It's primitive, and a lot more plot-oriented than the later HR content, but it's cute.

Mostly, I just like SB's wrestling stance. ARRRRR.

Me too. I think they should put it back as a museum feature. Unknown

== The sound when Strong Mad is launched into space? ==

I know I've heard that from some very old video game... any ideas where it's from?

Ooo! I know! a game called chicken invaders was an old arcade type shooter with that noise!

Oh....maybe i'll make a flash version of that game....just becouse of the cool sound- [[Sibbie]]

==Old Interview Context==
Look at this:

Mike Chapman: It's been off the site for awhile now. You can see it at www.robofilms.com in the archives section. It's called 'Marshmallows last stand'. It was the first cartoon we did for the site.

Stephan: Oh yeah, the art is really different in those. You can tell its older.

Mike Chapman: Yeah, that's why we took it off the site. The characters are completely different. Saying and doing things they'd never do now.

Just thought ya might wanna know. But this is an old interview. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 02:05, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
==Disambig==
Is the [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|disambiguation page]] really that necessary? I think the place should be just "Marshmallow's Last Stand", while the toon would remain "Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)" with a disambiguation notices at the top. Like [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] said, it's good enough for Wikipedia and it's still good enough for us. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:23, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

:If that was done, I would think we would want the toon to be on the "Marshmallow's Last Stand" page and the place to remain at "Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)", seeing as how the toon eclipses the place.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:39, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Ugh! You linked to a disambig page! Please change that very soon. I'd do it myself, but I don't want to mess with something somebody else wrote. [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]

:Of course he linked to a disambiguation page... That's what they were talking about. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Kinda Creepy==
Does anyone else find it creepy how Strong Mad is always facing the camera in this 'toon and seems to flip around to face us instantly? [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]

== Very little to do ==

I don't know why this toon was called "Marshmallow's Last Stand". It had very little to do with the place. It should have been called "Tag Team Wrestling". -Kinsey
: It's should "have", by the way. Anyway, I'm not saying you're wrong, but that IS the name of the 'toon. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Or maybe it's just a play on the words. "Marshmallow" is Homestar, because he loves them so much and eats them a lot, and it's his "Last Stand." Just a theory, but still. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

==Why?==
why is (toon) at the end of the title...we dont have wheres the cheat (toon) etc..unless its there for a real good reason...then i vote we take that part off...seriously

:Marshmallow's Last Stand is also an actual marshmallow stand, seen in [[date]] for one. --[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] 01:33, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Mike Tyson's Punch Out ==

I was watching this today, and it seemed to me that the crowd noise might have been lifted by TBC from Mike Tyson's Punch Out. It sounds quite similar, from my recollections...Obviously they are fans of the old NES game, as seen in the Easter Egg for [[montage]]. What does anyone else think? --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 16:40, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I just tried it out, and the crowd doesn't really sound the same. Is there a specific part of the toon you are referring to? Punch Out has kind of a dullish roar as opposed the yell-ish type sounds I hear in Marshmallow's Last Stand. Of course, it could just be the speakers on my laptop. I'll try again when I'm home.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:00, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::I'll have to fire up my emulator when i'm at home, and give it a listen...Like i said, i was going off my memory, which apparently might not be so good! --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 12:56, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Hollow Head ==

Strong Bad's head seems to be hollow after the bomb went off on it.

Hello...this was originally a children's series. Kids are not supposed to see gore, although you have no idea how much I have seen in my early years. They had to break that barrier in time, In Yello Dello and reform it, in the TGS series. Poop is as offensive as they will go. [[User:Helios Rex|Helios Rex]]

User:Helios Rex

Helios Rex — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:02:33 GMT

Helios Rex:

Alright!

Hello I am Helios Rex, known in Runescape more than here. I will be getting a clan soon, so all you Runescape fans head over there when I give the signal.

User talk:Helios Rex

Helios Rex — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:59:41 GMT

Helios Rex:

Haldo everyone. I am Helios Rex. I am a Runescape veteran turned H*R fanatic. I am pleased that you read this now. If anyone would like to contact me, they may do so at heliosrex@gmail.com. Also check out deathmake.tk if you play Runescape. My birthday is 5/10/90. I highly recommend the mere intro to A Jumping Jack Contest. There... thats about it.

Hi, Helios! Welcome to the Wiki. I just wanted to let you know that this information should probably go on [[User:Helios Rex|your user page]]. This is your talk page, where people can leave you messages. Have fun on the Wiki! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:29, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

K thanx. [[User:Helios Rex|Helios Rex]]

Talk:Coldson Lite

Helios Rex — Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:20:45 GMT

Helios Rex: lile

I don't think thats a t. it looks like another l. that makes Coldson Lite Coldson lile.

Talk:origins

Helios Rex — Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:49:34 GMT

Helios Rex: /* Fingernails */

After two weeks, we finally get a new e-mail. 'origins' not only discusses The Stick, but the disappearance of [[Mr. Bland]] and [[Senor]] and why [[Strong Sad]] has a belly-button. Hilarious stuff. Keep up the good work, TBC.

Also, I can't get Homestar's bread song outta my head.

*Heh, I like Matt's "Little Strong Bad" voice.

Can someone ban the guy thats trashing the transcript?
----

== The drill and Strong Sad ==

So we know how Strong Sad got his belly button, Strong Bad drilled it in. Then there's the fact that the drill noise last appeared in [[privileges]], where you can overhear The Cheat doing something to Strong Sad with a drill. Coincidence? I don't think so. --[[User:DJ Samurai|DJ Samurai]] 06:11, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Strong bads parents ==

Are "mentioned" (though granted not explicitily by the brothers chaps, but they did pick the email) in the Cheat's bday email.
: So? That wasn't the first mention of them, though they've never appeared. I hope you're not intending to add this as a Fun Fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:26, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
: Oh, I get it. It was a poorly-thought-out Fact that needed to be DELETED!!! Okay, yeah, the Strong Folks have been referred to before. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:31, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
: Strong Dad and Strong Mom, eh? Where were they mentioned? I don't remember that. --[[User:Moldorma|Moldorma]]
:: [[The Secrets That I Keep]], [[the facts]], one email in [[cheatday]] (as mentioned) and likely many others. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:47, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Moleskin ==
"Moleskine is a brand of pocket notebooks and sketch pads popular among trend-following artists and writers. Strong Sad mistakenly pronounces it "mole skin", whereas the correct pronunciation is "mol-a-skeen'-a"." What exactly is mole skin? It's some sort of product that can be found at pharmacies and the like, but does anyone have an exact definition? It may be noteworthy for the above fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

:The "moleskin" you're thinking of, Ogog, is just a cotton fabric. I don't know why it's called moleskin and I'm too lazy to do the research, but I assure you contains no actual mole flesh, and has nothing to do with Moleskine notebooks. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 19:27, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)

Curses, you cut me to the swift, Ogog! [http://www.moleskine.com/eng/ Moleskine]. -- zuzu

::Yeah, I knew it had nothing to do with the notebooks, but I was thinking it might just be relevant for the fun fact. i.e., "Strong Sad pronounces it as "moleskin," which is a type of cotton fabric." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
:::Moleskin is a thick fabric you use to pad blisters and abraded areas of skin to prevent further damage. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]

== The moon ==

The way the moon looks in the scene with Marzipan and Homsar being glued together reminds me of Day of the Tentacle. Or Sam and Max...sadly I can't play the games right now to confirm it...

== The Blinking CD ==

Okay, I agree that the blinking CD fact has to go on the page SOMEWHERE, but it seems no one can agree where. Is it a Remark? A Goof? Should it go next to the Easter Egg? Let's try to get some general consensus. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:44, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

:"[[the facts|Just weird is all]]." -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 20:19, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
::<s>This would be a perfect reason to create a "Miscellaneous" section, wouldn't you agree? It's not much of a remark, we can't guarantee this wasn't intended (ie: it isn't a goof), and putting it by the Easter Egg doesn't seem very... Easter Eggy to me. Really, a Miscellaneous section is practically necessary here. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:02, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)</s>
:::On second thought, just slap it into Trivia. That much we can guarantee it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:10, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
:::: Actually, there IS a "miscellaneous" section, it just isn't called that. You may know it better as Remarks. Personally, I think either Remarks or Goofs, but so long as we can reach some sort of consensus and not have in fifty different places on the page, it works for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
I would just leave it in the description of the Sing-along Easter Egg. It isn't a "Fun Fact" at all, and if it weren't part of an easter egg, i would say it only belongs in the transcript. -LuigiHann
:How exactly is it not a fun fact? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:57, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
::'cos it's pretty mundane.
:::Whatever. I still say it goes in "Trivia". --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:04, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
::: I'm with Shadow Hog on this one. Next to the Easter Egg it just feels clumsy. And this is no less a "Fun Fact" than most of the other entries in the column. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
Y'see, this is why I'm against Fun Facts seperation.
: Well, Mr. Anonymous, you seem to be the only person on the Wiki to feel that way, and you certainly did not speak up at all when I was proposing the changes. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
D'oh! I swear, it feels like this site is changing so fast, it doesn't even seem like the Wiki I know anymore...
: It's not like I split Fun Facts last night or something. I proposed it, I re-proposed it, and I proposed it again, and finally (several weeks ago) I just went and changed all the email articles and (until just now) NOBODY complained! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:01, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
I was the one who put this fun fact on here. The reason I originally put it on goofs instead of remarks is because a CD is an inanimate object, and therefor even in flash it shouldn't blink. I would consider that a "goof." I guess it could also go under "remarks." I definitely don't think it should go under "trivia" though... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:20, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

I don't known if this was intentional or not, but it seem a tad obvious, and who knowns if CDs covers can move by themselves in Homestar's world.

P.S. TBC '''can''' stop Homestar from blinking; see [[Main Page 19]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Strong Mad line ==

I'm hearing Strong Mad's line as, "WHAT GRACE!", not "LUNCH BREAK!" Given the Cheat's recital, I think "what grace" makes more sense. Any other thoughts? -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:05, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Well, I certainly don't want us changing it back and forth. Today I hear "LUNCH BREAK", but that's just me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:59, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

What about "THAT'S GREAT!" That's what I heard.--[[User:DJ Samurai|DJ Samurai]] 06:07, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

: I listened closely and must concur with 42: "WHAT GRACE!" Though I thought it was LUNCH BREAK at first too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)

I weirdly hear it as: "IT'S BREAD!" or something. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]

I just watched and I'm with DJ Samurai -- [[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]]

I too heard ' "THAT'S GREAT!" -[[User:Helios Rex|Helios Rex]]

== Heck no! ==

To me it sounds like "Heck no-it-all!" but the community seems to lean towards "Heck no at all" [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:21, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
: "Heck no at all" makes considerably more sense (though both characters say it fast enough that your version is at least feasible). And it's absolutely not "Heck no et al", as 203.122.209.127 keeps trying to make it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::In the context, it's definitely "Heck no at all". Without context, we couldn't make sense out of much of spoken language. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 05:12, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::Agreed. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 07:40, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::: I heard it as "Heck no at all," but part of the joke being that it's said with the same inflection of "know-it-all." TBC do a lot of phrases that almost sound like something familiar (for example, "Thank you, and tonight"). Of course, explaining that takes away from the joke. ;-) -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:43, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::::Or, more simply, they say cool things that're almost ONE phrase and NOT QUITE another. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:34, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::Indeed. What the crap is "Heck no et al" supposed to MEAN, anyway? That's just nonsense. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:34, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

:::[http://www.answers.com/et+al Et al] is a very common expression, similar in meaning to "Et cetera". I can see where the poster is coming from, and syntactically it works fine, it just doesn't happen to be what Strong Sad actually says. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:32, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
:::: Well, no, "Et al" means "and others", and is usually used to mean "And other people"; as in "This book was written by Lem Sportsinterviews et al". "Heck no and other people" (or even "Heck no and others") simply makes no sense even from a H*R point of view. It may be similar in construct to etc. but the two are not interchangeable. And this has been your useless information of the day. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:39, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

== St8k ==

There's got to be a better way to illustrate the way st8k would actually be pronounced other than "Stateke" That would probably sound like "Sta-teek" or "State-kuh" or something. I say that "Staytk" would be a better way to show the pronunciation of it. Or maybe "Statk (with a long a sound)" What do you guys think? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 08:31, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Whaddaya Think of This? - [[User:Technochocolate|me]] ==

[[Image:Bread_Sucks.JPG]]

Hey, that's pretty good! Put it in [[HRFWiki:Media|Fanstuff Media]] and show it to people! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:02, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

== Fingernails ==

I got a question; Is this the first time SB appeared to have finger nails? [[User:unknown|unknown]]

'Tis just an inside joke, the file. Such an event happens as Strong Bad is flipping someone off in that older email answered on Pom Pom's Pocket PC, and everyone else joining in, and they are able to see each other, so no one is affected by the lack of visible fingers.
-[[Helios Rex|Helios Rex]]

==Closed STUFF==
===Face the Camera===
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

*'''Decline.''' "One of the..." Is a no-no. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You being threatened with a DECLINE''' I don't think this is even worthy of being noticed, it is stupid. >:P --[[User: Lappy 486]] 8:00 Apr 26
===Señor & Mr.Bland===
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]
*'''I decline thee! *smack*''' Homsar came back after being crushed by Heavy Lourde. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 16:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' If you applied this to TGS, they wouldn't have lasted 8 issues! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I dunno abput this one... it is true, but the way it is said, i just don't know. --[[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline, decline, this fun fact, this fun fact. Declining so smoooooooth, how else would I react?''' Look at the Teen Girl Squad. They die almost every issue, but they come back for more the next episode. -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 12:44, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

"STRONG BAD: {producing the power drill} You want another belly button there, Harry Elephanté?"

Am I the only one who thought he said ''Hairy'' Elephanté?

It sounded that way to me, and I thought that it sounded like more of an insult that way.

Talk:origins

Helios Rex — Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:48:46 GMT

Helios Rex: /* Fingernails */

After two weeks, we finally get a new e-mail. 'origins' not only discusses The Stick, but the disappearance of [[Mr. Bland]] and [[Senor]] and why [[Strong Sad]] has a belly-button. Hilarious stuff. Keep up the good work, TBC.

Also, I can't get Homestar's bread song outta my head.

*Heh, I like Matt's "Little Strong Bad" voice.

Can someone ban the guy thats trashing the transcript?
----

== The drill and Strong Sad ==

So we know how Strong Sad got his belly button, Strong Bad drilled it in. Then there's the fact that the drill noise last appeared in [[privileges]], where you can overhear The Cheat doing something to Strong Sad with a drill. Coincidence? I don't think so. --[[User:DJ Samurai|DJ Samurai]] 06:11, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Strong bads parents ==

Are "mentioned" (though granted not explicitily by the brothers chaps, but they did pick the email) in the Cheat's bday email.
: So? That wasn't the first mention of them, though they've never appeared. I hope you're not intending to add this as a Fun Fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:26, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
: Oh, I get it. It was a poorly-thought-out Fact that needed to be DELETED!!! Okay, yeah, the Strong Folks have been referred to before. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:31, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
: Strong Dad and Strong Mom, eh? Where were they mentioned? I don't remember that. --[[User:Moldorma|Moldorma]]
:: [[The Secrets That I Keep]], [[the facts]], one email in [[cheatday]] (as mentioned) and likely many others. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:47, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Moleskin ==
"Moleskine is a brand of pocket notebooks and sketch pads popular among trend-following artists and writers. Strong Sad mistakenly pronounces it "mole skin", whereas the correct pronunciation is "mol-a-skeen'-a"." What exactly is mole skin? It's some sort of product that can be found at pharmacies and the like, but does anyone have an exact definition? It may be noteworthy for the above fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

:The "moleskin" you're thinking of, Ogog, is just a cotton fabric. I don't know why it's called moleskin and I'm too lazy to do the research, but I assure you contains no actual mole flesh, and has nothing to do with Moleskine notebooks. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 19:27, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)

Curses, you cut me to the swift, Ogog! [http://www.moleskine.com/eng/ Moleskine]. -- zuzu

::Yeah, I knew it had nothing to do with the notebooks, but I was thinking it might just be relevant for the fun fact. i.e., "Strong Sad pronounces it as "moleskin," which is a type of cotton fabric." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
:::Moleskin is a thick fabric you use to pad blisters and abraded areas of skin to prevent further damage. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]

== The moon ==

The way the moon looks in the scene with Marzipan and Homsar being glued together reminds me of Day of the Tentacle. Or Sam and Max...sadly I can't play the games right now to confirm it...

== The Blinking CD ==

Okay, I agree that the blinking CD fact has to go on the page SOMEWHERE, but it seems no one can agree where. Is it a Remark? A Goof? Should it go next to the Easter Egg? Let's try to get some general consensus. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:44, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

:"[[the facts|Just weird is all]]." -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 20:19, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
::<s>This would be a perfect reason to create a "Miscellaneous" section, wouldn't you agree? It's not much of a remark, we can't guarantee this wasn't intended (ie: it isn't a goof), and putting it by the Easter Egg doesn't seem very... Easter Eggy to me. Really, a Miscellaneous section is practically necessary here. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:02, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)</s>
:::On second thought, just slap it into Trivia. That much we can guarantee it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:10, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
:::: Actually, there IS a "miscellaneous" section, it just isn't called that. You may know it better as Remarks. Personally, I think either Remarks or Goofs, but so long as we can reach some sort of consensus and not have in fifty different places on the page, it works for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
I would just leave it in the description of the Sing-along Easter Egg. It isn't a "Fun Fact" at all, and if it weren't part of an easter egg, i would say it only belongs in the transcript. -LuigiHann
:How exactly is it not a fun fact? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:57, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
::'cos it's pretty mundane.
:::Whatever. I still say it goes in "Trivia". --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:04, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
::: I'm with Shadow Hog on this one. Next to the Easter Egg it just feels clumsy. And this is no less a "Fun Fact" than most of the other entries in the column. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
Y'see, this is why I'm against Fun Facts seperation.
: Well, Mr. Anonymous, you seem to be the only person on the Wiki to feel that way, and you certainly did not speak up at all when I was proposing the changes. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
D'oh! I swear, it feels like this site is changing so fast, it doesn't even seem like the Wiki I know anymore...
: It's not like I split Fun Facts last night or something. I proposed it, I re-proposed it, and I proposed it again, and finally (several weeks ago) I just went and changed all the email articles and (until just now) NOBODY complained! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:01, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
I was the one who put this fun fact on here. The reason I originally put it on goofs instead of remarks is because a CD is an inanimate object, and therefor even in flash it shouldn't blink. I would consider that a "goof." I guess it could also go under "remarks." I definitely don't think it should go under "trivia" though... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:20, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

I don't known if this was intentional or not, but it seem a tad obvious, and who knowns if CDs covers can move by themselves in Homestar's world.

P.S. TBC '''can''' stop Homestar from blinking; see [[Main Page 19]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Strong Mad line ==

I'm hearing Strong Mad's line as, "WHAT GRACE!", not "LUNCH BREAK!" Given the Cheat's recital, I think "what grace" makes more sense. Any other thoughts? -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:05, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Well, I certainly don't want us changing it back and forth. Today I hear "LUNCH BREAK", but that's just me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:59, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

What about "THAT'S GREAT!" That's what I heard.--[[User:DJ Samurai|DJ Samurai]] 06:07, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

: I listened closely and must concur with 42: "WHAT GRACE!" Though I thought it was LUNCH BREAK at first too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)

I weirdly hear it as: "IT'S BREAD!" or something. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]

I just watched and I'm with DJ Samurai -- [[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]]

I too heard ' "THAT'S GREAT!" -[[User:Helios Rex|Helios Rex]]

== Heck no! ==

To me it sounds like "Heck no-it-all!" but the community seems to lean towards "Heck no at all" [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:21, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
: "Heck no at all" makes considerably more sense (though both characters say it fast enough that your version is at least feasible). And it's absolutely not "Heck no et al", as 203.122.209.127 keeps trying to make it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::In the context, it's definitely "Heck no at all". Without context, we couldn't make sense out of much of spoken language. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 05:12, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::Agreed. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 07:40, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::: I heard it as "Heck no at all," but part of the joke being that it's said with the same inflection of "know-it-all." TBC do a lot of phrases that almost sound like something familiar (for example, "Thank you, and tonight"). Of course, explaining that takes away from the joke. ;-) -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:43, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::::Or, more simply, they say cool things that're almost ONE phrase and NOT QUITE another. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:34, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::Indeed. What the crap is "Heck no et al" supposed to MEAN, anyway? That's just nonsense. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:34, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

:::[http://www.answers.com/et+al Et al] is a very common expression, similar in meaning to "Et cetera". I can see where the poster is coming from, and syntactically it works fine, it just doesn't happen to be what Strong Sad actually says. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:32, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
:::: Well, no, "Et al" means "and others", and is usually used to mean "And other people"; as in "This book was written by Lem Sportsinterviews et al". "Heck no and other people" (or even "Heck no and others") simply makes no sense even from a H*R point of view. It may be similar in construct to etc. but the two are not interchangeable. And this has been your useless information of the day. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:39, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

== St8k ==

There's got to be a better way to illustrate the way st8k would actually be pronounced other than "Stateke" That would probably sound like "Sta-teek" or "State-kuh" or something. I say that "Staytk" would be a better way to show the pronunciation of it. Or maybe "Statk (with a long a sound)" What do you guys think? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 08:31, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Whaddaya Think of This? - [[User:Technochocolate|me]] ==

[[Image:Bread_Sucks.JPG]]

Hey, that's pretty good! Put it in [[HRFWiki:Media|Fanstuff Media]] and show it to people! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:02, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

== Fingernails ==

I got a question; Is this the first time SB appeared to have finger nails? [[User:unknown|unknown]]

'Tis just an inside joke, the file. Such Strong Bad flipping someone off in that older email answered on Pom Pom's Pocket PC, and everyone else joining in, and they are able to see each other, so no one is affected by the lack of visible fingers.
-[[Helios Rex|Helios Rex]]

==Closed STUFF==
===Face the Camera===
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

*'''Decline.''' "One of the..." Is a no-no. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You being threatened with a DECLINE''' I don't think this is even worthy of being noticed, it is stupid. >:P --[[User: Lappy 486]] 8:00 Apr 26
===Señor & Mr.Bland===
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]
*'''I decline thee! *smack*''' Homsar came back after being crushed by Heavy Lourde. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 16:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' If you applied this to TGS, they wouldn't have lasted 8 issues! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I dunno abput this one... it is true, but the way it is said, i just don't know. --[[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline, decline, this fun fact, this fun fact. Declining so smoooooooth, how else would I react?''' Look at the Teen Girl Squad. They die almost every issue, but they come back for more the next episode. -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 12:44, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

"STRONG BAD: {producing the power drill} You want another belly button there, Harry Elephanté?"

Am I the only one who thought he said ''Hairy'' Elephanté?

It sounded that way to me, and I thought that it sounded like more of an insult that way.

Talk:origins

Helios Rex — Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:38:38 GMT

Helios Rex: /* Strong Mad line */

After two weeks, we finally get a new e-mail. 'origins' not only discusses The Stick, but the disappearance of [[Mr. Bland]] and [[Senor]] and why [[Strong Sad]] has a belly-button. Hilarious stuff. Keep up the good work, TBC.

Also, I can't get Homestar's bread song outta my head.

*Heh, I like Matt's "Little Strong Bad" voice.

Can someone ban the guy thats trashing the transcript?
----

== The drill and Strong Sad ==

So we know how Strong Sad got his belly button, Strong Bad drilled it in. Then there's the fact that the drill noise last appeared in [[privileges]], where you can overhear The Cheat doing something to Strong Sad with a drill. Coincidence? I don't think so. --[[User:DJ Samurai|DJ Samurai]] 06:11, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Strong bads parents ==

Are "mentioned" (though granted not explicitily by the brothers chaps, but they did pick the email) in the Cheat's bday email.
: So? That wasn't the first mention of them, though they've never appeared. I hope you're not intending to add this as a Fun Fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:26, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
: Oh, I get it. It was a poorly-thought-out Fact that needed to be DELETED!!! Okay, yeah, the Strong Folks have been referred to before. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:31, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
: Strong Dad and Strong Mom, eh? Where were they mentioned? I don't remember that. --[[User:Moldorma|Moldorma]]
:: [[The Secrets That I Keep]], [[the facts]], one email in [[cheatday]] (as mentioned) and likely many others. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:47, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Moleskin ==
"Moleskine is a brand of pocket notebooks and sketch pads popular among trend-following artists and writers. Strong Sad mistakenly pronounces it "mole skin", whereas the correct pronunciation is "mol-a-skeen'-a"." What exactly is mole skin? It's some sort of product that can be found at pharmacies and the like, but does anyone have an exact definition? It may be noteworthy for the above fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

:The "moleskin" you're thinking of, Ogog, is just a cotton fabric. I don't know why it's called moleskin and I'm too lazy to do the research, but I assure you contains no actual mole flesh, and has nothing to do with Moleskine notebooks. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 19:27, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)

Curses, you cut me to the swift, Ogog! [http://www.moleskine.com/eng/ Moleskine]. -- zuzu

::Yeah, I knew it had nothing to do with the notebooks, but I was thinking it might just be relevant for the fun fact. i.e., "Strong Sad pronounces it as "moleskin," which is a type of cotton fabric." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
:::Moleskin is a thick fabric you use to pad blisters and abraded areas of skin to prevent further damage. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]

== The moon ==

The way the moon looks in the scene with Marzipan and Homsar being glued together reminds me of Day of the Tentacle. Or Sam and Max...sadly I can't play the games right now to confirm it...

== The Blinking CD ==

Okay, I agree that the blinking CD fact has to go on the page SOMEWHERE, but it seems no one can agree where. Is it a Remark? A Goof? Should it go next to the Easter Egg? Let's try to get some general consensus. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:44, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

:"[[the facts|Just weird is all]]." -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 20:19, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
::<s>This would be a perfect reason to create a "Miscellaneous" section, wouldn't you agree? It's not much of a remark, we can't guarantee this wasn't intended (ie: it isn't a goof), and putting it by the Easter Egg doesn't seem very... Easter Eggy to me. Really, a Miscellaneous section is practically necessary here. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:02, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)</s>
:::On second thought, just slap it into Trivia. That much we can guarantee it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:10, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
:::: Actually, there IS a "miscellaneous" section, it just isn't called that. You may know it better as Remarks. Personally, I think either Remarks or Goofs, but so long as we can reach some sort of consensus and not have in fifty different places on the page, it works for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
I would just leave it in the description of the Sing-along Easter Egg. It isn't a "Fun Fact" at all, and if it weren't part of an easter egg, i would say it only belongs in the transcript. -LuigiHann
:How exactly is it not a fun fact? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:57, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
::'cos it's pretty mundane.
:::Whatever. I still say it goes in "Trivia". --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:04, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
::: I'm with Shadow Hog on this one. Next to the Easter Egg it just feels clumsy. And this is no less a "Fun Fact" than most of the other entries in the column. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
Y'see, this is why I'm against Fun Facts seperation.
: Well, Mr. Anonymous, you seem to be the only person on the Wiki to feel that way, and you certainly did not speak up at all when I was proposing the changes. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
D'oh! I swear, it feels like this site is changing so fast, it doesn't even seem like the Wiki I know anymore...
: It's not like I split Fun Facts last night or something. I proposed it, I re-proposed it, and I proposed it again, and finally (several weeks ago) I just went and changed all the email articles and (until just now) NOBODY complained! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:01, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
I was the one who put this fun fact on here. The reason I originally put it on goofs instead of remarks is because a CD is an inanimate object, and therefor even in flash it shouldn't blink. I would consider that a "goof." I guess it could also go under "remarks." I definitely don't think it should go under "trivia" though... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:20, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

I don't known if this was intentional or not, but it seem a tad obvious, and who knowns if CDs covers can move by themselves in Homestar's world.

P.S. TBC '''can''' stop Homestar from blinking; see [[Main Page 19]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Strong Mad line ==

I'm hearing Strong Mad's line as, "WHAT GRACE!", not "LUNCH BREAK!" Given the Cheat's recital, I think "what grace" makes more sense. Any other thoughts? -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:05, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Well, I certainly don't want us changing it back and forth. Today I hear "LUNCH BREAK", but that's just me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:59, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

What about "THAT'S GREAT!" That's what I heard.--[[User:DJ Samurai|DJ Samurai]] 06:07, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

: I listened closely and must concur with 42: "WHAT GRACE!" Though I thought it was LUNCH BREAK at first too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)

I weirdly hear it as: "IT'S BREAD!" or something. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]

I just watched and I'm with DJ Samurai -- [[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]]

I too heard ' "THAT'S GREAT!" -[[User:Helios Rex|Helios Rex]]

== Heck no! ==

To me it sounds like "Heck no-it-all!" but the community seems to lean towards "Heck no at all" [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:21, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
: "Heck no at all" makes considerably more sense (though both characters say it fast enough that your version is at least feasible). And it's absolutely not "Heck no et al", as 203.122.209.127 keeps trying to make it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::In the context, it's definitely "Heck no at all". Without context, we couldn't make sense out of much of spoken language. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 05:12, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::Agreed. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 07:40, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::: I heard it as "Heck no at all," but part of the joke being that it's said with the same inflection of "know-it-all." TBC do a lot of phrases that almost sound like something familiar (for example, "Thank you, and tonight"). Of course, explaining that takes away from the joke. ;-) -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:43, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::::Or, more simply, they say cool things that're almost ONE phrase and NOT QUITE another. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:34, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
::Indeed. What the crap is "Heck no et al" supposed to MEAN, anyway? That's just nonsense. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:34, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

:::[http://www.answers.com/et+al Et al] is a very common expression, similar in meaning to "Et cetera". I can see where the poster is coming from, and syntactically it works fine, it just doesn't happen to be what Strong Sad actually says. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:32, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
:::: Well, no, "Et al" means "and others", and is usually used to mean "And other people"; as in "This book was written by Lem Sportsinterviews et al". "Heck no and other people" (or even "Heck no and others") simply makes no sense even from a H*R point of view. It may be similar in construct to etc. but the two are not interchangeable. And this has been your useless information of the day. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:39, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

== St8k ==

There's got to be a better way to illustrate the way st8k would actually be pronounced other than "Stateke" That would probably sound like "Sta-teek" or "State-kuh" or something. I say that "Staytk" would be a better way to show the pronunciation of it. Or maybe "Statk (with a long a sound)" What do you guys think? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 08:31, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Whaddaya Think of This? - [[User:Technochocolate|me]] ==

[[Image:Bread_Sucks.JPG]]

Hey, that's pretty good! Put it in [[HRFWiki:Media|Fanstuff Media]] and show it to people! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:02, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

== Fingernails ==

I got a question; Is this the first time SB appeared to have finger nails? [[User:unknown|unknown]]
==Closed STUFF==
===Face the Camera===
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

*'''Decline.''' "One of the..." Is a no-no. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You being threatened with a DECLINE''' I don't think this is even worthy of being noticed, it is stupid. >:P --[[User: Lappy 486]] 8:00 Apr 26
===Señor & Mr.Bland===
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]
*'''I decline thee! *smack*''' Homsar came back after being crushed by Heavy Lourde. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 16:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' If you applied this to TGS, they wouldn't have lasted 8 issues! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I dunno abput this one... it is true, but the way it is said, i just don't know. --[[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline, decline, this fun fact, this fun fact. Declining so smoooooooth, how else would I react?''' Look at the Teen Girl Squad. They die almost every issue, but they come back for more the next episode. -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 12:44, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

"STRONG BAD: {producing the power drill} You want another belly button there, Harry Elephanté?"

Am I the only one who thought he said ''Hairy'' Elephanté?

It sounded that way to me, and I thought that it sounded like more of an insult that way.

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Helios Rex — Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:41:45 GMT

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