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Talk:April Fools' 2006

H*R 700 — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 16:02:46 GMT

H*R 700: /* Now I'm mad! */

Man, I was hoping for something really good. This April Fool's wasn't all that funny, and it simply made an ugly mess of the Main Pages. I just hope that this just means that email 150 is that much better! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:36, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
:Agreed... It actually gives me a headache. It's very disorienting. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::I hope they do more and fix out the kinks when it's April Fool's for different time zones. [[User:PurpleKoopa|PurpleKoopa]] 06:13, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

:: It appears that all the pages are upside down...which is annoying, but effective given that it took a minute to realize it just turned April 1.--[[User:Motorbikematt|Motorbikematt]] 06:39, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah, it kind of gives me a headache. Still, it's kind of cool. Btw, nice sig Jay. I mean Tom. I mean DOUBLE DEUCE!!!! '''<tt>[[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|ŢɦųηɗəřÞìɤɖ]][[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>''' 08:14, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I have no idea what you're talking about. My sig just got a small color change due to the fact that my birthday is in less than a year from yesterday. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:38, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

It's funny, but at the expense of every other joke on the site. [[User:86.136.82.105|86.136.82.105]] 14:46, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

== How did they do it? ==

Does any one know how they did it? I doubt they manually fliped every movie (and 150 sbemails).

:[[Sbemail 150?!?|149.5]] actually. They did it by changing all the embedded swf files to "theyCallHimFlipper.swf?contentURL=name of original swf file.swf", which flips them over. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 14:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

== Changed throughout the early morning ==

I was there at random times up until about 2 am (darn college lifestyle) At some point the main page and the toons menu page were both unrotated. They also had the Weeklies items (QFSR) moved at about the same time.

Anyone else get a chance to see this?
:I did. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 15:17, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

== Now I'm mad! ==

Now everything's upside down! TBC have just ruind April Fools' Day! This isn't funny!
[[User:Chess Cheese|Chess Cheese]]

So who agrees with me?
[[User:Chess Cheese|Chess Cheese]]
:Not me! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:02, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
::Not me, either! I like it! {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 16:02, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page

H*R 700 — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:36:13 GMT

H*R 700:

Talk:Secret Pages

H*R 700 — Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:42:15 GMT

H*R 700: /* How did you find those pages? */

== Secret Pages with their own pages ==

I just removed four external links to secret pages that have their own articles: [[Not the 100th Email!!!]], [[website]], [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and [[Email Processing Room]]. After doing so, I started thinking it might be worth our while to have some of the other pages that are linked to from here to have their own page. I mean, some of those old intros and stuff could use screenshots and better descriptions. So instead of a page with mostly external links, we would have a page with links to individual wiki pages about each secret page. How's that sound?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:20, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

Hmm... Sounds interesting. I just made a page for "Sing Along". Some of this stuff doesn't lend itself to wiki pages particularly well, though. I suppose the previews could go on the pages that they are previewing ("Reddest Raddish" preview on the "Reddest Raddish" page), but what about stuff like "Wireless Bizness?" That doesn't need a wiki page all to itself, does it? -FatPamPam

:I think it would be easy enough to judge what could use a page. And I've added [[Sing Along]] to a new [[:Category:Secret Pages]] category.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:34, 19 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Wireless Thingy ==

The old Wireless Bizness thing is not working anymore. Does someone have the transcripts for those emails?
- [[User:The Brothers E|The Brothers E]]

I've been looking for the exact same thing for a while now. I've been on Homestar for a while and I was around while it was up. I remember it being hysterical. The only one I remember from it was the Salty Plum Soda one from stu that later became the rollover button on the toons page. I REALLY want someone to find this. [[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:25, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

Yeah! There was another one where he was trying help some guy out with the ladies, and his advice was basically, get a lot of money and cars, or switch to dudes. Is anyone else looking for this?

Yes I am. FIND IT, OR I WILL RAVAGE THE UNIVERSE!!!!!! Muhahahahaha. I er, um...suppose. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 23:39, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== SB Sign Explanation? ==

Might the "i am awesomer than you" Strong Bad "sign" actually be Strong Bad's "sign"ature on the Message Bored? Because the rules for the board imply that the characters, or at least Strong Bad, post. And it certainly seems like something Strong Bad would use on a message board.

== Wonder Years ==

Where did this page ever come from? It's in the "/sadjournal" folder.

:You might want to check out the [[Strong Sad's Lament]] and [[The Secrets That I Keep]] pages.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:47, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Can't Find Marzipan Answering Machine Message ==

So I've gone through all of the Marzipan answering machine messages, and I can't find one that I remember from a while back -- a prank of Strong Bad imitating Homestar Runner, saying that he'd accidentally killed someone and he needs Marzipan to meet him and bring a bunch of towels and plastic trash bags and shovels. Anyone know where I can find this little gem? Hi-larious.
*That's in [[Where's The Cheat?]] →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:33, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Halloween 01 ==

While I was searching for the swf file for Homestarloween (tto lazy to go to the wiki page), I tried going to "halloween01.swf", and I got [http://www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf this]. Is this already up here and I just can't find it, or can I add it? And what is Coach Z dressed as? Pom Pom, too (no pun intended...though I think it's "the Skipper too"...no pun intended). --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]]
: I can't get it to work right now (dang those secret pages!) but I believe I've seen it before. I even have a picture of it on my computer. Basically, it's the entire cast minus Homsar in their 2001 Halloween costumes - almost. Pom Pom seems to be Gilligan's Skipper, and Coach Z is a Noid (an old pizza commercial mascot). --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:16, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Marzipan is also dressed like Velma from Scooby-Doo. The chheat has a different shirt too. I wonder where The KOT's moustache went? For some reason, that bouncing dot thing on the Poopsmith's costume (on the chest of his "armor" is moving up and down and back and forth. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:39, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:The bouncing dot is the LEDs from the Lazer Tag game. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:47, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== King of Town ==

Does anyone know anything about http://homestarrunner.com/mainking.html
:[[King Of Town Main Page|Yes]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:58, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== If I ran the camera ==

I was just poking around the Wayback Machine and I found [http://web.archive.org/web/20021112210701/homestarrunner.com/ifiranthecamera this]. It doesn't seem to be on the current site and my computer is weird about some of the wayback archives. Can anybody get it to work? --'''[[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]]''' 15:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''''This discussion has been moved to [[Talk:If I Ran the Camera]].'''''


== Secret Buying Link ==

Hey guys. I found a sorta sercet page. Here's a link.
[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/heythanks.html] I found it when I was buying the new dvd. --[[Special:Randompage|Random man]] 22:38, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

We have seen it before, but good find. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:See [[Talk:Store#Hey Thanks]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:43, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Sucky treats costumes? ==

"www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf" does not exist anymore.. you get a 404'd error.. is there a mirror somewhere? if not.. someone should make one and relink it.. or something.

:Works for me. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:07, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::See [[Halloween Costumes#The House That Gave Sucky Treats (2001)]]. And the link works fine for me as well.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:08, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::No, i mean the hidden costumes page? the one that Coach Z is the Noid, and Marzipan is Velma from scooby doo.. the costumes are on that page, but not the flash file. Its linked from Secret pages, but (on my computer anyway?) its a 404'd.[[User:Collin|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Collin|Collin]] 04:12, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::Most of the time secret pages are 404'd. Just try again at a later date. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 04:14, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I'm talking about [http://www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf http://www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf], the Flash file you linked to. It works fine for me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:16, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::Oh.. well i guess i'm just retarded then.. thanx though. [[User:Collin|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Collin|Collin]] 04:31, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

By the way, there's a very similar conversation to this one just [[#Halloween 01|a few sections up]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:25, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::hahahha i just get more retarded as this conversation continues.. maybe i should do soemething about this.. [[User:Collin|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Collin|Collin]] 04:21, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Wow. I was looking for that file on the Wiki a while back. Couldn't find it (guess it was in 404 mode at the time, as I remember a "Halloween" page acting oddly...) Actually, I had the picture saved to disk for reasons that I no longer remember, and conveniently made the pictures on the Costumes page from that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== A mirror for the secret pages' files ==

I think we all agree that the old SWF files that we link to on this page do not work from time to time. I propose that Tom upload some (if not all) of these files to the wiki's mirror. Now that the forum is being hosted elsewhere (hats off to the kind individual from ''HomestarRules''), increased bandwidth usage as a result of the mirror isn't an issue. These files, in all likelihood, are on TBC's site indefinately. When/if these files finally go the way of "A Jumping Jack Contest" and "Marshmallow's Last Stand" (albeit for different reasons) it will/would be nice to have a mirror firmly in place. I am not proposing a removal of the current link(s) to the secret page under "External Links". Rather, an additional link for those people who get 404'd on occasion. Comments? {{User:The Paper/sig}} 05:27, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I agree.. it would be nice to have both links in the secrets page, like Main page and Mirror.. you could put some sort of note at the top that says the mirror is there for if the pages don't work. And i'm sure the mirror wouldn't get too much bandwidth abuse since the original files are on the website, its only like backup. And if the pages do ever go on permanent haitus then its no biggie since they're on the hrwiki right? --[[User:Collin|Collin]] 05:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Secret? ==

I was just browsing around archive.org and found [http://web.archive.org/web/20010129043500/http://homestarrunner.com/broncoend.html this]. The intersting part of the scourse says <pre><TITLE>Play Again</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgcolor="#000000">

<A HREF=broncotrolleys.html></A> 
<center><OBJECT classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
codebase="http://active.macromedia.com/flash2/cabs/swflash.cab#version=4,0,0,0"
ID=broncoend WIDTH=550 HEIGHT=400>
<PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="broncoend.swf"> <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high> <PARAM NAME=bgcolor VALUE=#FFFFFF> <EMBED src="broncoend.swf" quality=high bgcolor=#FFFFFF WIDTH=550 HEIGHT=400 TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash" PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></EMBED>
</OBJECT></center>
</BODY></pre>
It seems to be connected to [[Bronco Trolleys]]. Probably a "Game Over" screen. --[[User:81.230.154.89|81.230.154.89]] 16:35, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Scary Cake? ==

What happens when you click on the cherry from the Matt Cake page? From past experience, I think I'm a bit afraid to. Can anyone tell me?
:There's not much to it; you just see this other face appear in front of the "cake face". Oh, and sign your posts. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 07:03, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

::That's the face of Dennis Franz, in case you were wondering.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:09, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

== Cleanup ==
This page isn't very organised. It's in six categories, but within those categories, they're just a mess. They're just strewen about in the order they were added. It needs to be cleaned up. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

:See also [[#Secret Pages with their own pages]] as a possibility.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:26, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Secret Pages ==

I was browsing for images from Homestar Runner.com on Google Image Search and I found:

http://www.homestarrunner.com/amazon.html - its like a fake Amazon.com page.

http://www.homestarrunner.com/weenstuff/weenstuff1.html to http://www.homestarrunner.com/weenstuff/weenstuff40.html - although there might be a link to these, it is in museum format.

http://www.homestarrunner.com/weeklies/fanstuff_pic.jpg - this is a pic used as current weekly fanstuff, it is updated with the flash file because it actually isn't changed, just the picture and the text are (this is mentioned on the weekly fanstuff article). For some strange reason, the page it is supposed to be on redirects to http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Weekly_Fanstuff

pictures such as http://www.homestarrunner.com/costumes03.html are apparently from Fan Costume Commentary, however these are 404'd, so they are probably no-longer on the site.

[http://www.homestarrunner.com/hsbackground.jpg] - who knows?

http://www.homestarrunner.com/hsstamp.gif - the stamp used in the e-mail page.

nearly forgot to add my signature - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 06:01, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:Bookazon.com/Bookazon.egg: linked to from [[studying]]
:weenstuff1 through 40: already linked (I think)
:hsbackground.jpg: the background for [[Homestar's Website]]
::Not sure about the others. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 09:12, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Cool Tapes, it's always good to know stuff - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I did my homework and here is what i found out: the stamp is on the old e-mail updates page, but was re-used in the current e-mails page. I guess I know why nobody pointed that out, they all thought I knew - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 08:50, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== Cleanup Idea ==

For cleaning this up, would it be helpful if we made it a gallery, like the [[Toons]] page? For this that have no music, we could upload a graphic saying "NO IMAGE AVAILABLE". This is just my idea. I don't see much fodder on this page to get started with, so I'll clean it up if I know what we need. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 17:26, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
:Here's my suggestion:
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Screenshot!! Name !! Description !! External Links
|-
|[[Image:games menu 2001.png|100px]] || '''[[Third Games Menu]]''' || One of the old game menus. || [[HR:games.swf|View the Flash file]]
|}
:I think that would work really well. A re-order would be nice, too. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:40, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
::Good idea. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:39, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Also, I don't think we should do the same format for the toon previews. It would take up too much space and would just not be worth it. Perhaps we could put links to the previews to all the toons individually instead of taking up the space here. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:58, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:::True that. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:34, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes, I would argue about those being a secret page, as you can actually see them every time you mouseover a toon. I'd suggest moving them to the external links section of the corresponding toon. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:01, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I guess they're not secret pages. Otherwise it could be arguesd that (nearly?) all flash files are Secret Pages, as the only links on the site are the .html pages. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:22, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Sounds good to me, a bit of additional external linkage never hurt nobody. Since somebody's already deleted them, I'm gonna go ahead and get the links out of the page archive, and add them to their respective pages. Ooooor, should they go to just the [[Toons]] page? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:37, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I'd say both, if possible. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::''Or'' they could have their own page, with descriptions for each one. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:53, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::A seperate page, I think is a bit excessive. Perhaps both might be the best way to go. Just add an extra column to the tables [[Toons|here]], and then external linkage on all of them. Any objections? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:55, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::First table's [[Toons|done]]. Hows that look? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I don't see why they should be added to the toon pages themselves. The three links we currently have (HTML, Flash, and Forum) are links that people actually need. I myself click on them all the time. The link to the Flash file of the Toons menu would be pointless. Since they're a part of the Toons menu, a list of them there would be appropriate. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:18, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm fine with it on the Toons page. Carry on. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::::::::::What if "preview" was the ''last'' column? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:29, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:Wow The page looks great! If you don't mind I have taken the liberty to remove the cleanup tag. If you feel there's more to do, please say so and feel free to place it there again. Joshua, IRF, et. al., you've done a superb job! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:55, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

== Fan Costumes ==
Does someone have a mirror of the fan costumes secret page? The link seems to be down for good... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:[http://web.archive.org/web/20041019030433/http://www.homestarrunner.com/costumes01.html].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:44, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::That's not exactly a mirror, and it's only one page... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:::The pages were all exactly like that. The image would be shown, and a flash file would play [[Strong Bad]]'s comment. If I remember correctly, the Fash file also contained "next" and "prev" buttons.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:46, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I remember it. It was just like the toon except with those buttons and Strong Bad didn't talk. I was just wondering if we had an exact working mirror for new users. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

::::The SWF file does not load correctly from the archive. And so it's features cannot be seen. However, it might be possible to get the SWF from the mirror (if they have it) download the HTML and play both together from your hard drive. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::It seems the archive did not save the SFW file as I cannot find it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::I have the SWF file if you need it. Shoot me an email if you would like me to send it your way. tpaper AT gmail dot com. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 04:57, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks! I just sent out the email. However, the main reason I asked was to see if there's a way it could be hosted locally on the hrwiki mirror. Though I don't know if we have all the necessary files... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::I sent it to you and to [[User:Tom|Tom]]. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 02:13, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::I got the file thanks! It works great! However, there is one um... not so slight problem: it seems that there is a separate swf file for each picture. i.e. costumes02.swf ... costumes11.swf (along with their HTML and jpegs of course). The archive only seems to have the html pages (except maybe 9) and jpegs 1,4, and 7. Do you, by any chance... have everything else? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:56, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

== Two Questions: ==

I have two questions:
#Where did [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&oldid=205808#Previews these] go?
#and why do they not appear on [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=206299&oldid=206289 this diff] which is the last one where they appeared. at.
#These preview SWFs are all valid links if they've simply been removed. However [[User:Invisible_Robot_Fish|IRF]] did point out something important: the links to this page were originally meant to be for stuff that could NOT be linked to or seen from anywhere unless you type in the URL yourself. This page has many links to SWF's and other things that are actually part of many easter eggs or navigation features. If we restrict our criteria to the original intent most of this page would be gone. I think that we should create a separate page that lists all of these files (such as the preview SWF's above) that are visible SWF features in and of themselves ''(I used to think it was "in it of themlseves")'' but do not have their own HTML "frontend". (Or are special in some sense). Such links would indeed have a place in the encyclopedic nature of this wiki.
#As a side note, the [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#XML|Stinkoman XML files]] could be [[Stinkoman_20X6_Source_Files|linked to]] from here (and perhaps their XML sources be copied for those who don't know how to see xml sources and are curious).
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:To answer your main question, the toon previews were moved [[Toons|here]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:09, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::Where did the holiday and puppet previews go, then? They're not on the list. Also, the list could use some standardising... Some put it in the last column, some put it in the second... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::The list is still a work in progress, and is unfinished. The Holiday and Puppet previews still need to be added. Also, at first they were put in the second column, but then it was decided that the last column looks better so they were switched over. So some of them still need to be added, and some need to be switched to the last column. And I really have to get off this wiki and finish my homework. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Homework? What's that!? ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:17, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm still curious to know why this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=206299&oldid=206289 diff] does not show the removal of the items. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:35, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

:You want the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=206442&oldid=206299 next diff].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:16, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks! I see it now! I wish I had checked it earlier. OH! I see the problem now. It still baffled me why the incongruency between the diff and the time the change actually took place. Between [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=prev&oldid=206299 these] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=next&oldid=206299 two] diffs, the earlier reflect the visual removal in the text but not the diff, whereas the latter finally shows the actualy removal in the code. I had not seen that that section I was looking at had been commented out(like this: <code><nowiki></nowiki></code>) and thought there might be some bug in the diff system. Again, thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:25, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== one of these things is not like the others ==

since my correction was already reverted I will take my concerns here:

In my opinions the following items '''do not belong''' as secret pages. They are easter eggs... clickable from normal toons. They are not hidden URLs that you would have to know about like all the others on this page.

*50 cake
*Seriously!
*Virus'd QoD
*Virus'd Fanstuff
*Virus'd Sketchbook
*The Sweet Cuppin' Cakes buddy icons
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:But to see them ''seperately'', you would have to know some special URL. That's the key, I thinks. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::The place for them is not on this page, its on the individual toon in which they were egged, (which they already are). Eggs just don't belong as secret pages. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:24, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::As long as they're in a seperate section from the other things (''Site Components'') I'm fine with them here. Yes, you can see them, but they pages they are on are secret pages. (The content isn't secret, but the page is.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:43, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:::I see nothing wrong with having a collection or list of these (as I pointed out in the discussion above this one). Joshua and Dorian are right, the URLs they reside on are secret. We ''could'' still differentiate them in the way I deliniated above. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::They ''are already'' differentiated. They have their own category. [[Secret Pages#Site Components]] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:24, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::I didn't even see the above convesation, they are pretty much the same topic. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:38, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

== Site Components ... You can't have it both ways ==

Ok I'm trying to appease those that want some of these site components here on the secret pages, but you can't it both ways.

The following are item that are easily and can be clicked on:
50 cake
Seriously!
Virus'd QoD
Virus'd Fanstuff
Virus'd Sketchbook
The Sweet Cuppin' Cakes buddy icons

I tried to have them removed but was overruled.

Now items that are equally clickable but bring up seperate pages are the items I've just added.

Either allow them all or delete them all. Personally, I think that they all should be removed as non of them are secret. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:32, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

:Hi IRF, I looked at the entries that were removed and here's the distinction I could make: the ones that you added had html pages that were linked to the museum and their flash components were linked directly from the HTML page. All of these entries already have their own page and link to the flash file itself like all other toon pages. The links posted in the site components page are different. These are actually ''flash files within flash files'', for which you can't simply open the flash file look at its source and examine the URL of its components. These are special flash files used as components of the main flash files in question. I hope that clears up your questions. (As a side note, and per my suggestions above, these should probably have their own separate page). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:46, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

::Both have the same format, a new window pops-up without an address bar from clicking on a flash file. They are both flash within a flash. The only difference is one is moving toon, and the other is a static menu. I still hold that either they all go or they all stay. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:26, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
:::It's twue. [/homestar] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::Then they should either all stay or be moved to their own page. Deleting interesting content (that's even been here a while) is not a good practice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:50, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::: (EDIT CONFLICT'D! Ow, my point!) Actually, that's true only of the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes stuff, which is also the only item I'd seriously consider dropping. "Seriously" is separate from the wallpapers and everything else appears in the same window. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:54, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::: Also, I forgot to say: not having an address bar does not stop you from seeing the URL or viewing the source... if you know where to look (try right-clicking outside the 'toon itself.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::::'''Edit Conflict''' Ok I see what you mean now. I hadn't yet looked at the museum flash file, just the flash linked from the wiki page (ugh habits ... habits). You're absolutely right! They are flash components in the same way as the ones listed currently on site components. More specifically, some are shown as flash-within-flash (like the pom-pom first flash, the story of pom-pom, and the now-listed Seriously! egg), others open a new page (like original games menu, the original characters page, and the "Making out" easter egg in virus). On that standard, yes they should be on that page too! But they are not as secret. Again, I don't think it is useful to ''simply delete'' these components. A better home might be a [[Site Components]] page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:58, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::::On another note, isle of pom, biz cas fri, tennis, etc all have their own html "cradle pages", the Virus Qod, etc. do ''not'' have such a page. More to the point: like Jay said, having an html cradled page does not preclude you from finding the flash source file, however you do not have that luxury with an in-line flash file without the use of an expensive decompiler. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:01, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

== SuperBrave ==

The mirrored links aren't working. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== How did you find those pages? ==

How do you people find all the secret pages on H*R? I really would like to know, so I can find a secret page or two on another website I'm a fan of.

:Yeah, I've always been wondering about that, too. Whoever knows, tell us! Wait, you mean like, the index of files, right? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 01:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

::That's exactly what I mean! Like, an index. if the index isn't normally found on the site, is there some way to access it? I really want to know!

:::please? Some help? I really need this info!

::::It is not possible to do what you ask. These pages were found through old links or by looking through the code of other files. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::And a little luck didn't hurt. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:30, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::So... if I know a file exists, but I dont know the URL, can I find it?

:::::: Is this a specific situation? If it is, please give more info. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
::::::: EvilTrailMix.com had two secret mp3's on it, but when they were discovered, the files were renamed. Is there any way to find them again?

:::::::: Try [http://www.archive.org/web/web.php this site]. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 13:37, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I tried. I can't find anything. So, there's no way to get into the Parent Directory of a website? ...And if there is, how? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 15:36, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Secret Pages

H*R 700 — Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:36:57 GMT

H*R 700: /* How did you find those pages? */

User talk:It's dot com

H*R 700 — Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:32:07 GMT

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== Mean to young people? ==

You're my least favorite admin ever.
:Well, <s>''Bubsty''</s> (I was close. See below), one of the things you learn as an admin is that you can't please everybody all the time. I am, however, open to constructive criticism, so I'm a little disappointed that you didn't give me any more to go on than that one line. Or that you didn't at least sign your name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:23, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
::What? Did Bubsty write that? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 20:37, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Indeed. ''EDIT: Actually, his sister said that it was she who wrote the comment.'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::Or perhaps somebody from his computer or something. He did [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Da_Basement&diff=prev&oldid=241561 refer to Bubsty in the third person]... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::How did this person edit da Basement? Didn't you block him for 3 days, TBird? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:35, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, he did, but I unblocked the IP, since the edit wasn't trolling or vandalism. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I see. And in response to Thunderbird's comment: I don't know that third person is really evidence it wasn't he; he could have been covering his tracks. What ''does'' baffle me, however, is that that IP wrote false information about Bubsty's guestbook being gone, when in fact Bubsty himself removed the deletion tag from his guestbook, something one would think Bubsty would know. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Haha, I just mentioned that point a minute ago. But on IRC- I didn't bother updating my theory here. Thanks for pointing that out. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::That was me! Not Erik! And he told me he left the wiki, so I thought he had deleted his guestbook too. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 04:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Sigh*. So much for me leaving. Seems I have some explaining to do. Some things to clear this whole thing up:
::::::::::First off, I '''''DID NOT''''' write that comment above. I recently showed Sarah the comment you left on my user talk page a while ago telling me to stop using the list of users list to welcome people. Although I really didn't care that much about what you had written, she seemed to think of it as rude and insulting. I assume that comment was her "blowing off steam".
::::::::::It seems Dot Com thinks Thekillerdynamo is me. If you still have any questions about this whole thing, ''please'' tell me. I'll try to explain it.
::::::::::Finally, I'm really sorry (not to mentioned embarrased), that this whole thing happened. I'll '''try''' to have something like this ''never'' happen again. (Depends if a certain family member agrees).
::::::::::Sincerely,
::::::::::{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Well, as you can see below, all I knew for sure was that the edits were coming from your house. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
You do a lot on this wiki, but you're mean to the young people here. 10, 11, 12, and 13 year olds shouldn't have to act like a 28-year-old!
Can't you just be a ''bit'' nicer? I think more people would like you then.
Please; I'm not trolling - although I did blank your talk page. But that was so you would see this easier.
If you revert it (which I'm sure you will) can you at least think about being ''nicer''?
Once again, sorry for messing up your talk page. Just please read. Thanks! [[User:24.18.208.18|24.18.208.18]] 04:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:PS: I think you're still a good admin. Just show some commen sense. (Of course, I should talk; Look who's about to get themselves blocked!)
:PPS: Oh, and about my first edit on this page; I admit that was me. But that was back when I didn't know what a wiki was and didn't know who you were. You ''aren't'' my least favorite admin ever. In fact, you're one of my favs! If you want to block me for that, go ahead; I deserve it.
::Why don't you log in so we can discuss this. Talking through an IP address isn't the kind of conversation we should be having. I'm not going to block you. If I wanted to block you, I would have blocked your IP a long time ago. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Ok, I made a user. [[User:That One User|That One User]] 06:29, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't mean make a sockpuppet, I mean log in as yourself. You have obviously been around for a bit for you to hold the opinion you do, and, looking closely, you are either Bubsty or, at the very least, someone inside his house. So, c'mon now, Erik, Sarah, whoever... log in for real if you actually want to talk. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:05, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::How did you know? [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 00:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Hang on now, let me make sure I have this right... You're telling me that someone who has [[Special:Contributions/Thekillerdynamo|18 total contributions]] (as of this writing, none of which are in the article namespace) and to whom the only thing [[User talk:It's dot com/These Peoples Try to Fade Me#Hi_from_Thekillerdynamo|I've ever said]] is "Welcome to the wiki, Sarah! Ask your brother to show you how to sign your name," would suddenly and for no apparent reason get so annoyed with me as to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:It%27s_dot_com&diff=240812&oldid=240757 put this] on my page? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't add up. Perhaps you could explain yourself a little... or come clean. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Seems odd right? Actully, I've just seen what you've said to other people (like the thing) and what you said to Bubsty that one time. That was why I said "you're my least favorite admin ever". When you said that thing about user welcoming... something like that. But I'm not mad anymore. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 04:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::: Oh, okay then. Please allow me to speak to your points: Occasionally messages must be posted that are stern because it's urgent that the message be understood. (In the case of the message I sent your brother, it was because of the fact that edit summaries can't be changed, and so we have to be careful what we put in them.) I do try, however, never to be insulting, and as I said way back when, I do apologize if he took it that way. Also, I have nothing against young users, and I will happily give assistance to anyone who needs it (just have a look around this talk page). It should be noted that several of our exceptional users, including a sysop, are quite young, relatively speaking. Even though actual age doesn't matter, I don't see anything wrong with expecting a certain level of maturity from our users, once they've had a chance to get the hang of things. The wiki, after all, is not a toy. I think BazookaJoe put it quite well in his message to The thing when he talked about what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:The_thing&oldid=242251 the purpose] of this wiki is. All of this can only bring us to one conclusion: ...Strong Sad's [[caffeine#Transcript|adopted]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

== Well this is (not) nice... ==

I'd just like to bring this to your attention: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Homestar_Coder&diff=242152&oldid=242150]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I noticed that. I don't know what that guy's deal is. He is addressing Coder, so I'd prefer she be the one to respond to him. That edit could be called trolling (in the true sense of the word), but it's not vandalism. Until and unless he causes more, bigger trouble, I'ma stay out of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::I was thinking it was more along the lines of harassment. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:43, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Still, if she wants to block him, she has the power. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah. Very well I just thought I'd bring that up. Have a good night. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Thanks for bringing it up. I'll be keeping an eye on that guy for sure. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::This guy has some kind of anger management problem, and I think not responding to him is the best course of action. I don't even know where he gets this stuff; I've never blocked him (although I did warn him that he might be blocked for mucking up the Sandbox), called him any names (especially not "incredibly gay" - all the people I've known who are actually incredibly gay are far more mature than that guy ;) ), or confused him with Willy on Wheels. If he wants to periodically upchuck on my talk page, whatever. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Apparantly this is all because of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Character_Evolution&diff=next&oldid=175719 this revert]. I'm really confused as to how posting a few images constitutes two to three hours work as well as hating Homestar Coder for reverting it. Additionally, it didn't really fit; those images were all over the place. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I thought I [[User talk:Homestar Coder/MayAug2005#character evolution|explained reasonably]] that the pictures made the page cluttery; at the time, I was also trying to get that page deleted as I considered it redundant with [[:Category:Character Evolution]]. *shrug* {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 01:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Whoa! ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:It%27s_dot_com&diff=243608&oldid=242626 Wow.] --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:02, 21 January 2006 (UTC) (And here I was trying to come up with some cool archive style for mine...)
:It's dot com has archived his talk page? Saddle up my flying pig; I'm goin' ice skating in hell! (But seriously—I'm digging the topical groupings.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:24, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::Wow. I love that format! Keep on... making-great-stuff! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:33, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Quite impressive. Looks snazzy, and loads alot faster. Now we've just gotta convince [[User talk:Tom|Tom]]... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:45, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::::This is the greatest thing ever. Would you mind terribly if I bit your style and did a similar thing? :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::With a comment like that, how could I possibly refuse? You are more than welcome to take my coolness and rework it to achieve your own brand of awesomeness. (Never mind all that GFDL nonsense.) :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::YAYZ. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== what happened ==

Hey it's dot com, what happened to your discussion page? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

:well, he archived it. this means that at the top, you can just go to the links and they will lead you to the headlines. pretty cool, huh?

::Yeah, I just couldn't take all the whining from all you guys anymore. ;) But I figured out a compromise between keeping all the talk on this page and moving it all to an archive, so I went with it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

:::i wasn't whining. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 00:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::::I know. But take a look through the archives and you'll find quite a few requests for me to do so, and there were innumerable chat conversations to that effect as well. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:17, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== i believe... ==
that you are an amazing user. you are just in everything you do. i think it is inspiring how much you care for the betterment of the wiki. you block only the most important users. you recently blocked someone i know. i just want you to know that you are doing the right thing. thank you.
:Is this from [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]]? If so, why would you want me to block your brother? You guys must be like my brothers and I are. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::yeah, he hates my guts. and that's why he will never disobey me and come on a website too cool for him again. heheheh....{{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== I want to be a sysop ==

Do you no wen the next sysop election is gonna be? {{User:The thing/sig}} 16:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:Depends on several things. Why do you ask? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::I wanna be one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 16:27, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Really? How come? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I want to be a sysop. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:31, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Right. You just said that. I'm asking why you want to be a sysop. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Because I want to be able to: Block, Delete, Edit special pages... all the stuff sysops can do. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Why do you want to be able to do all those things? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I can't really explain it but I know stuff that should be done that no one has done. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, ''try'' to explain. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I know stuff that should be done that no one has done. Like people that should of been blocked pages that needed deletion plus I want to help the wiki as much as I can. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Who needs to be blocked? Which pages need deletion? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:12, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::Well there gone now but there used to be some. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::What's gone? The people, or the pages? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::If there is a person abusing the Wiki, or a page that doesn't have any need, there are ways of alerting sysops even if you're not one (add abusers to [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] and add the "tobedeleted" template to bad pages.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Both are gone but the main reason I want to be a sysop is so I can help the wiki as much a possible. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::It's admirable to want to help the wiki. We need as many people—sysops and users alike—who will do that.     Around here, we consider several factors when choosing whom to make sysops, and the most important consideration is trustworthiness. A close second is participation in the project. Rounding out the top six are the ability to deal with other users (especially in mediating disputes or deciding when to step in), technical know-how, the necessity for another position (that is, whether or not the wiki needs more sysops at any given time), and finally seniority. ([[bottom 10|Number seven]] on the top-six list is [[Senor Cardgage|senority]], which is the ability to make bad H*R-related jokes.)     With those things in mind, at this time I would not be comfortable with making you a sysop. Not long ago, you vandalized this wiki and less than a day ago you were blocked from the fanstuff wiki for persistent trolling. I think it will take a while for people to trust you again after that. Additionally, you currently don't meet the [[User_talk:It%27s_dot_com/Let%27s_Get_Started_on_Doing_All_Those_Awesome_Things_I_Suggested#How_to_become_a_sysop|participation requirements]]. That is, you really don't have that many edits in the main or talk namespace nor have you done a big project. I haven't seen how you handle stress or abuse from problematic users and I don't know the status of your technical know-how (again, because I don't have a large sample of edits from which to judge). Last (and this one matters the least to me but is nevertheless important) there's the question of seniority: In other words, even if all else were equal, quite a few deserving people have been here a lot longer than you, and would thus be ahead of you in line whenever we promote the next user(s).     Please don't think I'm trying to be overly discouraging, but your persistence in asking has made me want to be as unambiguous as possible. (By the way, asking for a position of power—no matter where you are (except maybe Wikipedia)—is a sure way to guarantee that the position will ''not'' be handed to you. Just so you know.) I encourage you to read the link above about the requirements and follow its advice. Over time, perhaps a long time, if you make good contributions and keep your nose clean, then you might be more seriously considered. Until then, keep on tranglin'. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::::Darn --{{User:The thing/sig}} 19:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

To The Thing: Personally, I'd love to be able to do all those things as well, but being given a position of power doesn't come free - [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig|You just gotta ''earn'' it!]] And to It's dot com: I found this whole conversation quite amusing. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:51, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps there should be a page devoting to answering the question "How do I become a sysop?" I see it asked a LOT. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 01:54, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps part of the FAQ? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::I really liked your idea, KieferSkunk, and decided to '''be bold''' and add it myself. It's composed mainly from the large paragraph above, but also from the talk section it links to, and my personal knowledge. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:::'''It's dot com:''' Yada yada yada sysop yada yada trust yada seniority yada yada yada edits yada yada yada long speech yada yada... 
:::'''The thing:''' Darn 
{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC) P.S. No offense to either of you. I just found that funny.
::::One other thing, Thing: as I'm sure any of the sysops can tell you, it might not be as fun as it looks from the other side of the fence. It means a butteload of ''work'', and a commitment to a certain amount of involvement and responsibilities. It's like the Spiderman thing (you know, "With great power...). (Except it ''doesn't'' come with the ability to swing through Manhattan streets in spandex.) Also, about helping the wiki: yeah, deleting pages and blocking folks help, but it's really only a small percentage of the work that improves the wiki: the bulk of it is regular users editting and reviewing each other's edits. In other words, you ''already'' have the power for the single biggest part of wiki-helping that goes on. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::Nevermind I'm a sysop on [http://weirdal.wikicities.com/ My own wiki] now. But it would still be cool to be one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 21:59, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

== i'm back ==
hey, it's dot com. i just got unblocked this morning. i want to say you did the right thing, and that now i will probably be spending less time on the wiki, so when i get blocked the next time it won't suck so bad. ah well. anyway, like i said, you did the completely right thing, and i hope you become an admin for what you did. thanks.
p.s. if i get blocked another time, please make it indefinite. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:02, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:um....[[User: Yeltensic]] just made a rude remark on the guestbook discussion page, and you should check it out. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::I am aware of it and have posted comments. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:::good. that was just plain crude. if he pulls some stunt like that again just because [[User: Darth Katana X|Darth Katana X]] told him to, i suggest you block him. look on yeltensic's talk page if you don't know what i am talking about. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 15:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Well I found out about the discussion from Darth, but I didn't "pull some stunt like that" because Darth told me to, he didn't tell me to do that. So leave Darth out of it, he didn't do anything (well maybe he did, but if so it was unrelated). [[User:Yeltensic|Yeltensic]] [[User talk:Yeltensic|Save the guestbooks]] 21:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::I apoligize. I now understand. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== That image ==

Just so you know, the reason I restored that image for "[[It's like it was meant to be]]" is just because Homestar Coder and Abdi both expressed their support for it and I felt that the person who removed it was acting rather unilaterally. I don't mind its removal as much if there's actually someone else who agrees about removing it, though. Anyway, keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, and Thunderbird has added a different image. Maybe this one will work well? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::I don't have a super-strong opinion that page, but the first image just didn't seem to fit, in my opinion. I did have an idea, though (the Wagon Fulla Pancakes). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say the same about not having a super-strong opinion; I just wanted to see things done fairly. (I try not to be too committed to my own ideas around the wiki. I find it only leads to disappointment when your edit gets reverted or your Fun Fact gets crushingly declined in STUFF. Not to mention you get along in the community better if you just go with the flow and be ready to get REVERT'd a few times, eh?) And yeah, I saw your new idea, and I think it's hilarious. "Rondelman, you crack me up! Crack! Me! Up! That's why you're my doge!" Anydangway, talk atcha later! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I added a link to the article cuz i wasn't sure at first which article you were talking about. I definitely like the new pic! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== CAPTCHA ==

I wanted to know what you did to get CAPTCHA up and running on 1.5.6. I stopped by the IRC channel & was told to ask you about it. :) On freenode, I am earthsound (registered user). Also, you can reach me at gmail.com (same user name).
Thanks!
:(He and I spoke via the chat channel, and the gist of the discussion was that I was not the author of the software, just an assistant implementor, and I directed him to the software author. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:41, 25 January 2006 (UTC))

== The ongoing saga ==
um, someone left a message on my talk page stating that it was weird that trendy totebag did not sign on while i was blocked. i know i may be wrong, but i suspect the anonymous user was, well, you know enough to figure it out. the writing, the splling....it's all the same. you probably can't match the ip addresses, but i would like it if you did. or he just didn't leave a sig, and you can check the contribs. thank you. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 21:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Um, there's really no mystery, since he was logged in when he made that edit. I have taken care of it. *sigh* — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, you must be tired of our bickering. It seems i am stupid enough to not stop until i get blocked, so i guess i deserved to be. '''ah well.''' {{User:Seriously/sig}} 00:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't mean to rub it in, but EIGHT MINUTES?! Nice, real nice. Eight min. is all it takes to get blocked. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 01:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Has Matt? ON WHEELS! ==

Thanks for clearing up all those page moves on my user space. I seriously was actually ''laughing'' the whole time it was happening. I think my userpage had at least 12 "ON WHEELS!" in the page title. My first time being WoW'd. Ever. Well, anyway, thanks a lot! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 04:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:No probalo. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:17, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::Wow! someone must really like you! Ooo! ooo! Here's an idea (stemming from our basement discussion that should really go there but i'm sure the discussion has been archived): use the Captcha (ok maybe it's not such as hot of an idea now that i see the page move history) for making moves for all users (since we move pages seldom). But i guess these moves ''were'' done manually! Interesting. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Actually, I believe the CAPTCHA image is used in move processes for all users. I had to use it. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:23, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah! you're right! It is! I just saw it when i hit the move button in your pa— *points* LOOK! *Runs away* --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== .swf decompiler ==

Where did you find a .swf decompiler? Stuntman021

:I use [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler] by Eltima. A free download is available (which is the version I have, and it meets my needs pretty well), and the full version looks to have a lot of features. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== G'bye ==
dot, I think I am going to take a break from the wiki. I just wanted you to answer a question of mine: do you ever feel like the wiki ends up affecting more than just the wiki aspect of your life? I mean, Ciberdude's got my IM screenname and my email address, and he won't stop from either. I know you can't help me with this, but I think I have to make myself a little more discreet the next time I come on here. That's why I'm taking a break. Just act like I'm gone for good, okay? I'll be back soon, just not for a while. Thanks for all the privelages. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:41, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, giving out personal info can be useful, but it can come back to haunt you sometimes. Take care, man. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::I will. And even if you lose your sysop privelages, block ciberdork while I am gone. I'll still edit anonymously. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:46, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Seriously, Seriously, you say the weirdest things. Talk atcha later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Seriosuly, Seriously. I mean Seriously. What. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::So, i finally learned to block email addresses, and IM ones too. So.....I guess I'm on the wiki again, and once again I am wildly exaggerating like I always do. Ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 22:04, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== What did you do ==
I would just like to make a counterpoint to hating guestbooks, even though the discussion is over. Have you ever thoguht how much sigs should be deleted? You must have, because if you are going to delete guestbooks like you did, the exact same reasons apply to sigs. People working on their sigs clutters up the recent changes, I know because I do it '''all the time'''. Sigs are not contributing to the wiki, just like you insist guestbooks don't. And finally, They give no proof that someone ever read your userpage, something that by the way is something that people either do or don't but that shouldn't matter to anyone else. I just think that What you and the admins did was entirely opinionated. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:45, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
:No proof, eh? Well, I guess that someone could read a user page in a matter of seconds and then promptly sign a guestbook. Not all sigs clog recent changes, just yours. Sigs are a means of identifying a user, and thus serve a purpose. I am not meaning to reply for It's dot com, but I just wanted to say this. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:58, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
::Also, I bet a lot of sig flooding could be stopped if people just used "Show Preview". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::: Sigs exist anyway; you edit them in your user preferences (which does not show up on Recentchanges). The custom, however, is to create a User/sig template and use ''that'' as your sig. The User/sig versions are used because:
:::# They're easier to edit.
:::# If you edit one, ''all'' of your signatures change. If you edit the sig in your preferences, only ''future'' signatures change.
::: What's more, custom sigs of any sort allow links to your Talk or Contributions page, and make it easier to tell who's who (if you see a light blue sig with a green "Talk" area, it's probably me. If you see a gold-colored sig with symbols on both sides, it's likely Thunderbird. etc.) I'd take that over not being able to tell if I've previously read a user page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
:::And, by the way, it was not the admins' decision to remove them; they may have started the voting, but ''everyone with a user name'' could vote. I abstained voting entirely because I don't really care. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Got it. Reluctantly. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

Sorry about re-making those User_talk:Drwho? pages. I wuz trying to mark them delete but you already deleted them. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:That's okay. Just remember to wait a couple of minutes between postings if you think that might be happening. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Two Questions ==

Hey Dot com, what's up? I have two questions. First, where did you post that discussion where someone was asking how to do links that were not underlined and you tried an example which didn't quite work correctly? (This is indirectly related:) I was wondering if you could take a look at [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects|this]] issue. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:34, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:See [[#Super-plain_link]]. Note: old how-to questions from my talk page are filed under ''The System Is Down → Technical help''. On your second question, I'm not sure what you're asking. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::For the first question, I looked briefly and couldn't find it (actually i scanned the page twice) but couldn't find it. I was scanning too quickly. As for the second issue, it turns out to be a firefox issue :(. Nerd42's sig goes beyond the table borders for some reason. I looked at the sig code and all the tags were closed off. I hope you have a copy of firefox to look at this cuz i'm not gonna provide a screenshot of it right away! ;) I gotta eat! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd post it in a more central place, like the FAQ talk. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Good idea! Just so you know, I found out another reason why you wouldn't be able to see it: resolution. The problem only happens when you wrap text a certain way. As a result, I have [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects#Strange|posted]] an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects&oldid=255516#Timeline_project update] and a [[:Image:Nerd42sigProblem.png|screenshot]] of the problem, as well as an inquiry in the [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ#Sig_image_bug|FAQ talk page]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:45, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== trolling ==

Just so I can learn the game a little more, how did you know that those last few blocks were Yeltensic, I looked in the user contribs and didn't see much. Teach me OB1, your my only hope :-P {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, often times he makes a remark that identifies him as, in fact, yeltensic. If he didn't do that, then I'll step aside and let dot comster answer this. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I just looked at the blcok log, and I have to admit I am confused. He must have matched the IP addresses. Also, there are two new users that are created. How do we know they're not yeltensic? {{User:Seriously/sig}}

:User:18593095NSMC90531234 wasn't trolling. I heard about the NSMC people but mabe this wasn't. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:03, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

::Yes he was. I didn't say vandalism, I said trolling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::How? {{User:The thing/sig}}

::::I agree with The thing on this one. Even though he might look like NSMC at first glance, take a look at the article on Uncyclopedia [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/HRWIKI about our wiki]. At the near bottom, it says "If you happen to be new, register with the username: 18593095NSMC90531234 - Trust me, it'll be fun." This is the ''exact same username''. It seems to me that this guy just didn't know anything about NSMC or this wiki and got Punk'd. He wasn't doing anything bad (yet), so why block him because of "trolling"? Although I would suggest that he get a better username. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::Yea. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::LLok at this '''North Shore Medical Center''' same first letters. {{User:The thing/sig}}

::::::I know exactly where he got the username, and it's the reason I knew what his intentions were. Trolling is the (usually intentional) provocation of a person or community with the aim of getting a negative reaction. Even if he just did it on a lark (which I doubt), he should know better than to blindly follow instructions he came across in a place like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== seriosly ==

i dont think its fair to bann me every tiem I talk to seriously, he is a big user on the wiki and if i am to become a good contributor i will have to stop pretending he doesnt exist. i think i've been banned enough to know not to fight with him.— {{user:Ciberdude444/sig}} 22:57, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

:<s>I think your mom goes to college is not the person who sent this. But that's just me.</s> {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:24, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Fanstuff Troll==
Really bad troll attacking for 2 days at the fanstuff wiki, Joshua says he needs help. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

:What do you mean? I'm not sure that dot comster is a sysop there. If he is, please elaborate. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, he is. [[HRFWiki:User:Riley|Riley]]

:::Seriously: This is the third time ''in a row'' you have replied to messages on my page that weren't addressed to you. And in two of the three times, your reply was either wrong or didn't give any useful information. Please let me have the opportunity to reply to my own messages. Thank you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Riley: What's this guy's deal? Is he Clan or someone who just doesn't like Clan? What course of action would you like me to take? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

It's dot com: Sorry. Just trying to be helpful. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:29, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

:Um, he stopped, joshua wanted me to tell you earlier. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

::I enabled some more security that should limit him to one new vandal account at a time, and I scrubbed out some of the filthier usernames. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:49, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
Thanks for all the work with Babel! -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:06, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:You're welcome! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Babel ==

I understand why you think that the [[HRWiki:Babel|Babel]] towers will be better with the source code rather than the templates, but I really think that templates will make it a lot easier to use and more user friendly. I understand that there would be a lot, but noinclude tags could be used to keep track of them. Source code is fine, but do you think that I could at least try with Templates, and if it gets too confusing switch back to source code? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:23, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:I think we should try with the source code first. It's not too hard to get the hang of. (Besides, it's just copy and paste for most people. ;) ) I don't have a problem with a generic template, but we don't need to create a whole slew of them for a non-mainspace thing such as this. Plus, this way, people won't be limited by just the ones in the templates (although we do ask that they be Homestar Runner (or wiki) related). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== ciberdude444 ==

im not ciberdude, hes my brother, my computer is auto loged on and he used it to post that talk, i didnt say anyhting cause of the warm welcome i had at the wiki compared to my brother's fued and destruction it was better not to connect me with him in any way. — {{user:Yourmomgoestocollege/sig}} 20:31, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

== Recent block ==
Umm... are you sure that IP you blocked recently is the right guy? Because I checked his contribs and he hasn't done anything vaguely trollish. Except, maybe for editing Tampo's sig and page, but Tampo din't seem to mind, which leads me to believe he ''is'' Tampo. If he's not, he still seems like a fine user. Any reason why you blocked him? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
:*24.77.42.48 has created an account as A fweakin' chair
:*24.77.42.48 has created an account as Reverted
:*24.77.42.48 has created an account as Christian
:Yep, I'm pretty sure. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:24, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
You've blocked a troll with the same IP adress as [[User:Tampo|Tampo]]. He is blocked for no reason. [[User:Stongbah|Stongbah]]
:Yea! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 20:10, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
::The IP in question was not blocked for no reason. It was being used (as you can see above) to create multiple accounts in a short amount of time, which were then being used for vandalism. I will unblock the IP for now, but I'll be keeping an eye on it. P.S. The thing: Exactly what was the point of your post? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:29, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I have no idea just kinda wanted to be in the conversation. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 20:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

== Arrested Development-apalooza ==
I wanted to make sure you heard about this. Fox is airing the last four episodes back to back on Friday, starting at 8pm. From one fan to another, {{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 23:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, we've already got the party planned! :) It's going to be bittersweet. I don't know whether to hold out hope for Showtime or not. And I wonder how they'll tie up the loose ends while leaving the door open a crack in case they do change networks. Hmm. Thanks for posting! Talk atcha later, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
::Such a good show.....It pains me to see it go....{{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:59, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

== Admin sigs ==
Why do none of the admins excepy JoeyDay have customized their sigs? I'm thinking maybe you guys are too busy to do that stuff. Just wondering if you knew. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:Well, that's not quite true, unless you have a very narrow definition of admin. If by admin you mean someone on the [[Template:adminteam|Admin Team]], then [[User:Stu|Stu]] definitely has a [[User:Stu/sig|signature]]. If you mean people who are on the Admin Team and are currently active in the day-to-day maintenance of the site, then you're right, only Joey has really customized his signature. Of the six of us, however, only [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] has no customization to speak of. [[User:Tom|Tom]], [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]], and I all have subtle modifications from the standard. If, on the other hand, when you say admins you mean sysops, then there is quite a bit of customization. [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] and [[User:FireBird|FireBird]] have had special sigs for as long as I can remember, as have [[User:Jay|Jay]], [[User:Homestar Coder|Homestar Coder]], [[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]], and [[User:The Paper|The Paper]]. [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]'s modification is a slight tweak, and [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] and [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]] haven't been here in a while. Even [[User:GrapeNuts|GrapeNuts]] (a bot) has a [[User:GrapeNuts/sig|sig]]. As for the heart of your question: Why do Tom, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]], and I have more or less "plain" signatures? Well, Tom's is like that because he's ornery about such things. BazookaJoe's and mine are like that because it just looks right. Since everyone else goes to such great lengths to customize their signatures, ''not'' doing so becomes a customization in itself. — [[User:It's dot com|''It's dot com'']] 23:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Cool font. I meant the admin team, without the sysops, By the way. Stu, well I've never actually seen him make an edit. Although I did hear that he was joey's friend. I just think that if you have a sig, you should make it have more convenience, like having a link to your talk page. Thnaks for the answer. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:And Dot com has toyed with his signature in the past [[User talk:Thunderbird L17/Archive 8#Towards a more standards-compliant signature|once or twice]], a long while back. That special sig you just made looks pretty cool, if you ever did decide to change it for good. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::GrapeNuts has a sig? Dot com customizing his!? What is the world coming to!? ''This message is {{User:GrapeNuts/sig}} approved (not really, I just wanted an excuse to use his sig :).'' --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Weird. And ''you'', thunderbird, had a blue sig. That scares me. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 05:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Um, I just wanted to know what subtle modifications you, Tom, and InterruptorJones have on your sig. Do you mean past versions? Also, what is DrHaggis's slight tweak? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Tom has a nonbreaking space in front of his (and used to have an empty link). I have an em dash. Interruptor Jones has both of those and uses small tags. Dr Haggis's real username is Drhaggis. All of us put the modifications directly in the preferences box, instead of using a sig template. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::So you don't have to put an em dash alll the time? That's really cool. I think Ill do that. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 03:00, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

== Fanstuff on the knowledge base ==
By the way, you say I have to delete my caption contest, yet you don't seem to think about the amazing amount of people doing translations on their userpages. Also, you should think about Has Matt?'s page that includes homsar quotes that other people can edit. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I can't realy think of many people who do translations. Even then, the translations themselves are direct quotes and the replies are occurring on the talk pages. The reason I had a problem with your activity is because not only were you inviting people to edit your user page, you were asking them to ''create new H*R-related content'' based on the toons, which is the very definition of fanstuff. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:38, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::Ah. I realize that my above comment was a little bit too harsh; I apologize for that. I try to stay nice with users, since most already have a reason to hate my guts (including you). So, yeah. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Er, okaaay.... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, DBK does, after the extremely insolent remark I made on his user page, And you have a reason because of [[User: Ciberdude444|Something I can't mention.]] Also, Firebird has an excuse because I was blocked by him for trolling, and Yeltensic has a reason (although he's not a user anymore) because I was one of the people who asked him to stop most. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::One of the coolest things in this wiki is that everybody generally treats each other with respect and with maturity. Most of the people I know here do their job (be it editing pages, commenting on behavior, or taking action nobody wants to have to take but that needs to be taken) and then move on if need be, and so we try not to harbor little things that may be divisive or in the long run inconsequential. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Recap ==
Can I get a recap (no need to be brief, I have time) of the things that have happened here since the start of December? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:''See [[Talk:Main Page#Recap|Talk:Main Page → Recap]]'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:36, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== guess what happened to me ==

Heloo there It's dot com, how are you, i've been doing great. About the heading, check out my talk page and user page, and you'll see what happened. Have you every got a similar award? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:40, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Cool, man. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:28, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, keep in mind, Nikolce, that the pizza trophy is superior to the Iron cup of <strike>beef</strike> brunswick stew. This means that that trophy is one of the greatest trophies you can get. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:14, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

wow, is there some sort of "lost of tropies or something?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

:Yes. Check the [[Hrwiki: Barnstars|Barnstars]] page. There's a lot of trophies you can get. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Mirrors and Such ==
Hello, It's dot com. I'm now direction your admin-y attention to [[Talk:Scroll Button Songs#HRWiki Mirror|this little discussion]] in the far reaches of the knowledge base. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:00, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Tom currently handles all the mirror-type stuff. I would ask him. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:20, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
::Okay... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:35, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== Userboxes? ==

Hey there dotty, how are these last couple of days. can i ask you something, i've been looking at people user pages, and i've been finding these things called userboxes? what are they?

is there a list of them or something?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:36, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:I might be able to help here. A list is located at [[HRWiki:Userboxes]], as well as directions on how to add them to your page. Let me know if you need any help adding some, if you want to do so. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:37, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Thunderbird, let me say sorry, about this message. Its because i don't like to order people around, but my user page is a bit of a mess, actually its chaos, please help its urgent. thanks a bunch. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:Nikolce, if you say please, it's perfectly fine. Don't worry about politeness, because it seems you almost unconsciously type in polite ways. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:46, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

== Idea and it's potential ==
Hi. Nikolce Kocovski sent me something on my talk page. It's the newest headline, I think you should check it out. I want to see if you think either his idea or mine would be of any potential. Thanks. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== NSMC thing ==
What's the purpose of that page? Also, why'd you delete the talk page for it? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:Also, I'd like to congrat yoyu on the amazing amount of users you've managed to obtain. Truly amazing. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:48, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::"Amount of users"? What? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I mean the amount of sockpuppets that NSMC created. You just made a page listing all of the addresses. It looked cool. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. Well, for an explanation of the page, see the section in [[HRWiki:A_History#NSMC|A History]]. I deleted the talk page because it was a user talk page, and therefore comments on it weren't addressed to me but to the vandal. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I find this extremely interesting. Y'know, I was here when NSMC hit. I didn't know how revert it, though, so I just didn't go on the Cheat Commandos section. Of Cuorse, that wasn't enough. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 18:02, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

== Paradoxes ==

So which came first? The [http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/User:Sannse/Please_leave_this_line_alone chicken], or the [[HRWiki:Introduction|egg]]? ref:[http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/User:Sannse] --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure ours was modeled after [[Wikipedia:Template:Please leave this line alone|this]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::I hate it when we're not original. :(. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Ahhhh .... hence the similarities. I *now* remember seeing that before a long long time ago, once you showed it to me, even though it looks exactly like the other one... :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:20, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Cool! Where did you find [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=269724&oldid=269553 this one]? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:45, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:I wrote it myself. See the fourth userbox on my user page. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:49, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

==18,000 views==

Hey, you've got a cool userpage. I agree, Marzipan's answering machine is underrated. {{User:Granola/sig}} 05:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks, man. Welcome aboard! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:03, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::With over 18,000 views, it ''has'' to be good. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 14:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::18,000 views?? When did that happen?! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure I trust those counters anyway... The one at the bottom of this talk page currently shows only about 800 views, but surely ''that'' can't be right. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:44, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've been having a similar situation on my user page. For some ''extremely'' odd reason, it says I have ''28,000'' page views. Seriously, I'm not that popular. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 19:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::You were talking to Dot com, not Seriously. {{User:Granola/sig}} 21:51, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, Granola. That's one of the worst jokes I've heard all day. :P — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Of course, I, being a retard, do not understand that joke a bit. Also, dot com, you might as well delete that thing on the bottom I wrote, cause you asked the smoking monkey to delort it. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, you see, "Seriously" can mean both your username or "in a serious manner". Has Matt? meant that ''in reality'' he is not as popular as 28,000 page views would seem to indicate, but Granola took it to mean that he was addressing you directly. Hilarity ensued. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Or a total lack of hilarity, as it was a crappy joke. {{User:Granola/sig}} 22:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Oh good, I knew you weren't that popular :P Maybe with all the code fiddling you do, you somehow reversed the number of talk page views with the number of userpage views or something. I've gotta say this has shattered my confidence in those little counter things, before I would have trusted those things with my life. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::And I jumped from 2500 to 6000 in less than 24 hours awhile ago. That can't be right, either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:28, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::The number is so small because the counter was reset to zero when this page was moved back incorrectly from a vandal. It had to be deleted and recreated, and that's probably what caused the problem. And Heimstern, do you have your preferences set to hold page caches? If you do, that's probably what caused the view count to jump. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 06:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Aw, man! You're probably right, HSRusername. That really bums me out. I would reset my counter, except that I have no idea what to set it to. By the way, as far as I know, I've never messed with anything that would affect those numbers. Maybe they've gone up dramatically because an outside bot is gathering data or something (like for Google). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:34, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::At the very least, as of [[User talk:Thunderbird L17/Archive 16#6,000 views!|06:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)]], you had over 6,000 talk page views, and just under 6,000 userpage views. I think it's safe to give yourself at least a 10,000 talk page view head start, as long as you give your userpage a 10,000 view handicap. That should get you somewhat back on track. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Well, I found an archive just before all the hubbub that put the count at 10,071. I added that to the 958 currently showing to get 11,029, and used that figure to reset my counter. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

==Autocolumn==

Btw, I wanted to say excellent work on the autocolunm feature. I was looking at the Strong Bad Email tables yesterday, thinking an autocolumn thing would be a nice feature, and lo and behold not two hours later it had been converted. Nice work. (I suppose for colunms such as the ones on my userpage though, it doesn't have any useful application, correct?) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 14:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:I tried to use it for the ones in my page, but it just screwed things up. Although I did put it on [[The Field]] and [[Strong Badia]] and Has Matt? used it on [[Homestar Talker]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks! Yeah, when the columns are independent lists, they still have to be done the regular way. The autocolumns are for when you have one long list that just needs to be split up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Very nice script, It's dot com. No more tiring counts of items-per-column to make sure each one is equal. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:23, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Wait, what was the difference? I don't see anything new...at least I don't think...{{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== The Smoking Monkey's talk page ==
Why isn't what he did bad to you? Before you say no, let me explain. First of all, he embarassed me ''and'' The thing on his talk page '''on purpose''', second of all, he said apology's to dot com, which means he knew this would have a certain outcome to certain people like me, you (which for some reason you find fine), and the thing. This is a perfect example of premeditated malice. And third of all, would you like it if someone made fun of you on their talk page for everyone to see? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:I have asked The Smoking Monkey to revert or remove the thread. If you find it insulting, then it is a personal attack, which we don't want. I assure you this was not The Smoking Monkey's intent, but that is beside the point. Let me take this opportunity, however, to suggest that learning to laugh at one's self is one of the most difficult yet rewarding things a person can do. In addition, I think you should ''stop'' apologizing and ''start'' adding more content to this site. Whenever I click on your contribs, I notice that over the last week your user talk contribs outnumber your main namespace contribs 7 to 1. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::yes. I understand. Also, I've been adding to the wooky (a major overhaul of the site just because I feel sorry for it), so I havn't had much of a chance. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Finding vandalism ==

Hey, just wanted to flag a sysop. [[other days]] was mildly vandalized. I fixed it but figured you might want to know about it. Feel free to delete this from your talk if you want. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Simple nuisance vandalism can just be fixed and then ignored. The best way to let us know about more serious vandalism is to post it on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]]. Then we'll get it taken care of. Thanks for reverting that page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== The thing ==
Now that he's unblocked, I'm thinking you can put that template for his block reason on his talk page. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== Did I just miss that? ==

Did I miss something or is this just deja vu? I *just* noticed that the order of the "diff" and "hist" buttons are out of order from the other wiki's. In wikipedia, they are before the page title, here they are after the page title. How long has it been like that, and was that part of your recent tinkerings? Confused in Connecticut. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:07, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:You live in connecticut? Bodacious in Buffalo {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:10, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::I don't see what you're saying at all. Whistlin' in Washington, {{User:Jay/sig}} 22:12, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::You sure? On the Bonus Stage Wiki, they also go (diff)(hist), so... I dunno. Not Doing A Name Thingy Like The Rest Of You in Pennsylvania. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I think what he meant, although I don't see it, is that he thinks that it was "{page title} (diff)(hist)" here. Lazing Around in Lynnwood, {{User:Jay/sig}} 22:16, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Hm. Odd. I see it the other way around. I mean, the correct way. Maybe Stux's internet is just going spastic. Not telling anyone my location, {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 22:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Maybe it's a certain bug in the mediawiki 1.5 software, there were many other ones. {{User: Seriously/sig}}
::::::OT: Jay? Lynn would wash? Silly in Sammamish, {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:23, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::How very Strong Bad-ish of you. :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:25, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Wait, did anyone else just realizing us having this discussion that is getting off-topic on another user's talk page that isn't even responding? Confused in Crapland, {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 22:27, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, I'm thinking it's either a bug in the software, or a bug in Stux's compy. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I doubt that it's a bug in my compy since my watchlist is getting the code from the server as it's all server-generated. I know I have the "enhanced" recent changes turned on (I turned it off for a moment and it indeed showed it the other way, with (diff)(hist) first. But this must've been deja vu, cuz of that. Cuz I've had it "enhanced" for the longest time. So I dunno. I probably need sleep. As for my domicile: I actually don't live in Connecticut, nor have I ever even been in the state (sadly). I just picked the two words cuz they made good alliteration! (And I was surprised to be able to spell the state's name right.) I didn't think people would assume I lived in Connecticut. In fact I am Mindless in Michigan. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Mindless south of Montreal, Bamboozled west of Boston, Really Confused north of Rio, Dazed east of Dallas. {{User:Granola/sig}} 19:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==
The thing has recently vandalized a wiki. Check Benol's talk page for info. I suggest you block him, as per your rule posted on the main page. Thanks. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:Sorry I <big>LOVE</big> this wiki the trolling was my evil cousin! Plus it wasn't this wiki. I swear I'm crying right now. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:55, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::You should have thought about that '''BEFORE''' You trolled!!!--{{User:Benol/sig}} 16:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Please I'm really sorry! That was my evil cousin! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm crying harder than I ever have before! :'-( --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'm sorry. Nothing we can do. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Please I '''LOVE''' this wiki! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::You probably won't be ''Permanently'' blocked.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 17:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I'm to sorry to even say it in words! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Look, you guys. I'm pretty sure all this trolling went on before Dot com posted that message on the Main Page talk. Besides, he's now trying ''extremely'' hard to clean up the mess he's made, so he obviously knows what he did is wrong. Therefore, will a block ''really'' do anything to help this situation? I think not. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 17:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Do u see how hard I'm trying to get rid of the vandalizm! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Ok guys, The thing has more than repented for that vandalism. Seriously, I suggest that you keep your nose out of matters that do not involve you. The thing is currently reverting the vandalism with extreme diligence, and this situation is misunderstood by both Benol and Seriously. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:39, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::It wasn't that I was not minding my own business, but I saw many changes to Benol's talk page on the recent changes and decided to see what was up about it. I only meant to help, and I'm sorry if I failed to do so. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I wasn't party to this at all, so I don't really know what happened in this particular case. But I will say this: I said once before that I thought the ops here were being too lenient on The Thing, as he's had a history of vandalism and trolling in the past, and everyone seems to be very quick to defend him. (Lots of "I'm sorry's" and "I won't do it again!'s".) I don't deny he's also made good edits here, but I have not seen discipline executed equally to him as has been to others who've done similar things, or less. That's kinda frustrating to see. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

You all need to complain to your teachers for not teaching you how to read. While you're at it, Seriously and The thing, go ahead and post a mailing address where I can send a bill to your parents for babysitting you. On the main page talk, I said that anyone caught vandalizing in our name would be dealt with. I have neither the time nor the resources to try and police other wikis. The message regarding other wikis means that if you vandalize Uncyclopedia, for example, ''in retaliation'' for something that happens here, then at that point you are speaking for ''all'' of us here, and I care very much that you don't do that. But random vandalism doesn't concern me. To The thing: I can't believe that you think vandalism is funny, especially given that you're an administrator at a wiki. To Seriously: you need to learn what is and what isn't important, and stop being such a tattletale. And stop speaking for me. In one place you say "No matter what, you must get blocked." You have neither the authority nor the experience to be making claims like that. To KieferSkunk: The thing didn't actually do anything (in this case) to harm our wiki or its good name, and therefore there are no grounds for blocking him. (And he ''has'' been blocked recently by BazookaJoe for spamming.) To anyone who needs to hear this: Stop vandalizing. Stop behaving so immaturely (and don't blame your actions on your age; I know several young good contributors). Wiki usage is not a right; it's a privilege. And for goodness' sake, stop apologizing. You've said you're sorry so much that the words have no meaning. Let your future actions be your apology. That's all for now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:In reply to your comment to me: I understand, and I'm not asking for him to be blocked in this case. I was making a more general comment about The Thing's history, seeing as how I have witnessed vandalism from him in the past and saw people, even sysops, defending him and going way out of their way to reason with him, rather than treating him as a vandal. I didn't understand it at the time, and I still don't, so I left my comments on the matter at "I think you're being too lenient with him". This was mainly just a follow-up on that, more to mention that I'm not surprised another "incident" has come up than anything else. That's all. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::Well, unless an account is being used for nothing but vandalism, then [[HRWiki:Blocking_Policy#Vandalism|reasoning should always be exhausted]] before blocking is implemented. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Just who do you think you are? ''Babysitting''? Y'know, it's not like I've ever done anything mean to you. Yes, I spoke for you. Just trying to help and to see it in the eyes of an admin. Yes, I've answered your talk page questions for you with crappy answers. Again, jsut trying to help. These things don't mean you have to insult me like that. Y'know, I've really never done anything bad to you on purpose. I always had great respect for you, and I've never purposely insulted you like you just did. You need to learn how a simple misinterpretation of a comment on the main page talk should'nt be an excuse for acting like that. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:09, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::When I vandalized I thought you were suppose to vandalize there. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::To Seriously: As one who has been an admin several times in other places, one thing I can say with certainty is that many admins feel very put off and are easily annoyed by non-admins (and especially relatively new people) trying to speak for them. Dictating policy to other users on behalf of the admins is usually a no-no unless you are an admin or are trusted by the admins to do so. (Obviously, I can't speak for It's dot com, but if I were in his place dealing with this crap, that's how I'd feel.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::And if you haven't figured it out by now who I am, Seriously, then you've got deeper problems than I can fix in one afternoon. To The thing: whatever, man. To KieferSkunk: Hear, hear. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Okay. Here it goes, time for me to swallow my pride:

Look, Dot com, I just don't want to be treated like a baby. In my opinion, I think being a tattletale is the wrong was to think about it, I prefer "fighting trolls, and trying to help you with your rule". Yes, I was disrespectful to you. I just needed to prove my point and express my anger at you. Also, I know you are an admin. Maybe I ''was'' a bit overboard with you; that doesn't mean what I said was entirely wrong. I mean, I apologize, but it's not like I'll kiss your ring and beg for forgiveness. I've got to be a bit more defiant than that to ever prove my point. Just remember: I've always, ''always'' tried to help you, and I just found your comment a bit mean. Just forgive me, please, and let this whole thing disappear. Thanks a lot. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

:Seriously, have you been reading this thread and understanding it? It's dot com has stated just 8 posts up: "And for goodness' sake, stop apologizing." You are still relatively new to this wiki, and your experience has been limited to editing User and User talk pages. You said yourself you give "crappy answers" to questions that don't concern you. When I first joined, I watched conversations like this unfold and saw how responsible admins reacted. I didn't try to solve everybody's problems; I knew I didn't have the knowledge. Just keep to yourself for a while and maybe see what it's like to make some main namespace contrubutions. (That is the idea of a wiki, you know.) {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 00:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

== Check this out: ==

Ok, so check out the current [[:Category:To_be_deleted|delete category]]. See something strange? The "Timeline" article is listed under the U's! Even though the tobedeleted tag uses the <nowiki>{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki> tag. Strange, no? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

== Dr. Who ==

HOW DOES HE KEEP COMING BACK! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:Hey man, I want you to know that Dr. Who vandalized your talk page. Could you block his IP for me? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 23:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::First of all, this is nothing to get excited about. He's a garden-variety vandal, nothing more, and he comes back because (a) he apparently doesn't have anything constructive to do and (b) he has access to a dynamic IP. Second, yes, I'm aware that he vandalized this page. Third, I already blocked him before you posted your message. Fourth, please list future vandals on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]], not this page. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Also, he never does much damage, besides vulgar content and stuff like that. What's weird, though, is how he always manages to come when there's no sysops around. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::You know what I hate? When this guy writes vulgar edit summaries. For people who patrol recent changes, especially kids, we don't have to see that. Really. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Yea. I'm 10 he on my page said This user is fulla ****. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ugh. At least NSMC was was just racist. This guy swears like nobody's business. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:15, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::He can go to jail for this. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I doubt that severely... Though one can always wish... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:21, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::To this point: would it be possible to introduce a language filter? The rare times a swear is needed (an interview transcript, for example) a sysop can override. ?? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:24, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Probably impossible. That would interfere with this wiki, though, because the cartoon says crap all the time, among other things. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::We could allow the program to accept crap. Still, there are a lot of other issues... {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:33, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::It's definitely possible, but currently it's not worth the effort it would take to install it. As for "crap", we just wouldn't put that word on the bad list. Finally, I would appreciate it if comments that aren't actually directed to me be posted in a more public place: [[Talk:Main Page]], [[HRWiki talk:FAQ]], or [[HRWiki:Da Basement]], to name a few. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:35, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::OK. Although I think that everyone comes to you because you are the central hub of the wiki, pretty much. Everyone comes to you in hardships, whcih if I were you, I would be honored with. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:38, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Oh, I know, and don't think I'm not honored, but I, like most people, don't like new-message false alarms, and would rather talk about projects I'm currently working on. Also, there are a lot of questions that anyone could more easily answer if they were just put in a more public place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Flashforward ==

I'm still at the conference, it was really great. IRC doesn't work on the terminals, but suffice it to say, I was here, got autographs, (not many questions) and it was really great. I'll try and get a writeup on Wednesday evening. --TBird

:That was not Tbird. Look [here]. The editor's IP starts with a 6. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::Thunderbird is not at home, so the IP address would be different. It could still be him, but I would like him to log in if possible. If he can't log in at the convention, he'll figure something out or log in when he gets home later tonight. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Too late. His IP's been blocked. He'll log in when he needs to, but I have one question: If he was TBird, why did he sign TBird instead of his IP (accidentally typed <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> without knowing he wasn't logged in) or with his sig (or siggie, I guess)? It doesn't seem right. I mean, if he can edit annonymously, he can edit logged on, and I think the first thing he'll ask if he can't log in is why he can't. Plus, he would know that an IP editing as a user would most likely be reverted. We could unblock the IP and see if TBird can log on now, I guess. Wouldn't hurt, but I still think it wasn't him. I dunno. Oh, also, if it was him, sorry, just don't want anybody impersonating you. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:50, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::We didn't block the IP. There are several reasons why he might not have been able to log in (if the computer he was using didn't accept cookies, for example). I think the edits by the IP match TBird's style, but I'm being cautious for now. I'm patient; if I have to I can wait for him to get home to confirm. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ye of little faith :-P You didn't recognize my unique writing style? I just didn't really feel like logging in for one or two edits. I probably should have, but meh. In any case, all I said was true, and more. I left a message on the IRC with Phlip, but it should still be there if you scroll up, to see a brief summary of the event. I'll get a writeup started tomorrow night. For now, I've gotta be up in five and a half hours for work, so I'm going to bed. '''EDIT:''' Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention on IRC. Let's just say I'll be kicking myself for months for not bringing my DS to Flashforward... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 09:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::I thought it was you (see above where I say it sounds like your style), but the info was too good, so I thought it was best to wait for confirmation. I guess you'll log in from now on. :-P Actually, the only reason I had any question was because the IP you were using came up as being based in ''Chicago'', which was pretty weird. I admit it would have been quite unlikely for someone to be imitating you, but we've been burned before. Anyways, great jaerb!!! Many combolations on your successful mission!! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Parse error! ==

In HomsarQuote.php. You sure are good at bringing the Wiki to its knees ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I always seem to forget semicolons at the end of lines. And it never fails that someone notices my mistakes, even when they're there for less than a minute. :P — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::Ah, missing semicolons, the bane of a programmer's existence. (Unless you're coding in Lisp. Then it's missing parens.) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:39, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I used to do C++ so remember the semi-colon plight, now I do mostly webdesign and so am plagued to make sure I have the same number of <nowiki><div>'s and </div>'s</nowiki>. If I don't comment every single one I'm lost. My lastest creation is [http://www.odua.org this] It's mostly done although I can't seem to get things to line-up the way I want and no matter what changes that I make, it will only look right on one browser at a time! Grrrrr. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:01, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

== You are s-smart ==

Brilliant random Homsar quote thingy!

You're pretty good at this, obviously. Take a look at [[Talk:Sound Effects#Ogg? why not mp3?|this discussion]] and my idea at the end - would this be something possible to improve usability? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I guess you're gonna have to s-spell out what your idea is, because I'm not quite s-seeing it. S-sorry if that cancels out the s-smart. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::The ogg files. They confuse people, many players in use don't use them right out of then box. But Wikipedia has an interesting solution which we might be able to emulate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I should have been more s-specific. What I meant was, when I went to the page about the s-symphony, I wasn't s-sure what their s-solution was. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::In the 1st paragraph, there's the Listen link (after the musical example) - there's a (listen (help·info)) thingy. The "Help" goes to instructions on how to get your player to play oggs. I mean, I was stymied by them until I was researchiong (on that page, actually) and stumbled upon that.

::::Of course, I don't know enough about Wiki to know a) if this can be done on our system, 2) how to do it even if it can be done, and III) if this sort of a thing would require "discussion" "someplace". SO that's why I ask you, Mr. S-smart. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::Just copy the source code of [[Wikipedia:Template:Audio]] to [[Template:Audio]] (or something like that), adjust the help link to the media help page on this Wiki, and it should work fine (apart from maybe the speaker icon). --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 20:46, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::It's that easy, eh? :\ Well, it'd take me a few days to figure all that out! (I spent a good part of today trying, haven't gotten far. Will keep trying.) But if someone who already has all that figured out wants to take up the cause, we could have better usability sooner. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Talk page rate ==
These days, I've been trying to make more main namespace contribs and less user talk page contribs. The question is, has my diet (sorta) done any good for me? Check my contribs. On a rate of 1 to 10, how much would you say I've improved? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 04:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:Er, maybe we should give it a little more time before making a 1 to 10 rating. I say that because in the last three days, you have made more user edits than and ''twice'' as many user talk edits as all your main, main talk, HRWiki, and HRWiki talk edits ''combined'' (not counting sandbox). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:42, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::Gulp. Back to work on the random refreshings. :( — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I just did like fifteen. Sweet. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:11, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, you've been doin' a LOT of edits, Seriously. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 19:12, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Um, sorry about those things on tyhe videlectrix games. You're gonna be doing that for a long time. :( — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:27, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Nah, you're fine. I've always been bugged by the word "exist" on those pages. How can we say that the games don't exist? I can see a screenshot right next to them! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, that's true. At least I added some good edits to my reh—zoom. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:44, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

==WikiTroll==

OK then, I'll stop, but why don't you want me editing that page? {{User:Granola/sig}} 02:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:Because it's fine the way it is, and you really don't need to be editing meta-information about yourself. Besides, as you said on the talk page, that record isn't even that important anyway. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:01, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::Fair enough. I just wanted it to be accurate, even though it isn't necessary in the first place. {{User:Granola/sig}} 03:15, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

==Granola==

Why did you delete my old userpage? {{User:Granola/sig}} 07:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:That is not your user page. If you continue to claim that name, I will treat you as though it was still your username (i.e. I will go back to blocking you). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::OK...I just thought it would be useful to redirect it, so that people who went looking for it would come to the right place...<strike>can at least have the talkpage redirect? People have been known to still post on the old one, and I think it's useful to redirect that one, so that posts won't lie around unanswered for a long time.</strike> {{User:Granola/sig}} 07:12, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::Never mind about the talkpage, I logged in as Yeltensic, went into my preferences, and enabled the notification e-mail in case the old talkpage is edited, so it's covered now. {{User:Granola/sig}} 08:19, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:::You've said that I can't have "Yeltensic" as my sig, as I did for a while, or have "I'm Yelt" in parentheses; would it be OK if I included in my sig a link to my Wikipedia userpage, without the word "Yeltensic" visibly included, in this way: [[Wikipedia:User:Yeltensic42|With crap]], '''[[User:Granola|Granola]]''' '''([[User talk:Granola|T]]''' '''•''' '''[[Special:Contributions/Granola| C]])'''? I won't change it until you approve that suggestion (if you do). {{User:Granola/sig}} 03:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I see that you have a mention of it on your user page as well as a userbox linking to Wikipedia. Those are both fine with me. (By the way, just thought I'd point out that (H*R/wiki-related) userboxes are allowed here.) But I don't think it's appropriate for your sig at this time. You need to stop focusing on your old name and work on making a new, better name for yourself here. Crapfully crappy, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::That sounds reas-ON-able. I'm pretty attached to the name Yeltensic, since I've been using it for quite some time before HRWiki, but it ''is'' my fault that the name is tainted here. Oh well. {{User:Granola/sig}} 04:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== Cheddarlebbon ==
I hate to butt in with that conversation, especially because I've been under fire for that recently, but I am sure that IP address is not him. Cheddarlebbon does not type in caps, for example. He also has several spelling errors in his sentences. I'm just putting this up, because I want to make sure he does not get the password. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks for your concern. Don't worry though: Per our policy, I will not be resetting the account without some kind of proof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:05, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
::<s>grood</s>Good. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== My Userbox ==

Hey! Jerk! Why don't you stay offa my userpage and let me make my own userbox there! I didn't put it on the userbox list! It was isolated to my page! I really don't know what your deal is, but you need to get over it if it upset you that much. Maybe I should edit your page without asking you, huh? I think I can safely say that I was following the guidelines for my personal image. Now If you'll excuse me, I'm going to put it back up. No thank you very much, {{User:Republic of Stan/sig}}
:''This discussion was originally continued at <nowiki>[[</nowiki>User talk:Republic of Stan → Userboxes]]. I had originally suspected him of being a sockpuppet of Drwho?, and that turned out to be correct.''

== Most of it? ==

Query: Why do you only own "most of" the figurine set 1? Don't use that old excuse of "oh, my dog ate Marzipan!" :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:My friend gave me them for Christmas... except he apparently gave some of them to his brothers first. Hmm... Well, he did at least assure me that I got the best ones of the bunch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:10, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:: Oookay. Which ones didn't you get? (Looks up at all fourteen Homestar Runner figures - from both sets - currently sitting above his computer.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::: Oh, I knew you would ask that, but I'm really comfy here on the couch right now. :) I know for sure I have Homestar and Strong Bad, and Pom Pom I think. I don't have The Cheat or the KOT. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:15, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:::: KoT was the second set anyway. Sucks you wouldn't get The Cheat, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:16, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Aren't you supposed to get those free when you buy stuff? Don't you have like every single DVD and CD ever. Like ever. Ok so at least all the H*R related ones...--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:25, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Well, I got these ''years'' ago, back when you didn't get them free with everything. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== Blocking durations ==

As a senior sysop and an admin here, if we are being trolled by someone, for how long he or she should be blocked. I know that known trolls like NSMC, Dr. Who and others are blocked forever, but what about small calibar trolls? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:It's pretty much a judgment call in almost all cases. For IP addresses, 1 to 3 days, depending on the severity of the vandalism. For ''really'' bad stuff, a week or so. If a vandal is obviously changing IPs within a narrow range, blocking the range X.X.X.0/24 (or 23) usually works. Users who make useful contributions should be reasoned with first if possible, not blocked. Accounts created for no purpose other than to vandalize should be blocked infinitely. Hope that helps! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::Thank you very much. It sure will help! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== New sysops ==

Was there a sysop nomination? If so, I'm surprised that Lapper wasn't one. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:34, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:''Anyone'' who had made any edit since around the beginning of February was considered. Of the ones we took, they were each chosen not only because they are deserving but also to fill certain niches. As we say, we will add new sysops as our circumstances warrant, and this time circumstances warranted the number and specific users that we took. I can name a half dozen other users who will someday make excellent sysops, and anyone who was not chosen this time should ''not'' read into it negatively in any way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:58, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::When I posted the above, I couldn't say what I can say now: We were still considering some people, and some people simply don't check their email often enough! (Or they don't make their primary email available to the wiki, which is pretty much the same thing.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:24, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, It's dot com, I see you having a lot of new sysops. Does that mean there won't be any new sysops for a while? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:29, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, I believe the seven new sysops that we have just inducted are it for a while. We've always got our eyes open, though. Remember also that ''all'' users can be important users. I did some of my best stuff (including STUFF) before I was promoted. (It's kinda funny too... what a lot of people don't realize is that sysop = more headaches.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::So like how long? Because I signed on on Feb. 24th. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:::It would be impossible to guess at this time, as there are just [[HRWiki:FAQ#How_do_I_become_an_admin_or_sysop.3F|too many factors]] that go into it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I missed something - is there a page that lists the new sysops? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:[[Special:Listusers/sysop]] or [[HRWiki:A History#Later additions]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::Gotcha, thanks. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

== User groups ==
I have a question: I know what a sysop does, and I know what a beaurucrat does, but what do you get to do as a developer that nobody else can? I'm just wondering what it means it have the promotion. Thanks. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:46, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
:For those of you following along at home, I was technically made a bureaucrat and a developer on the same day. The only reason I wasn't added to the developer group in the wiki software is because there's a subtle difference between being a developer and being in the developer group. At the time I was made a developer, the wiki developer group was inactive. Since then, we reenabled it, and when we did, I was put in the group, even though for practical purposes I was already in it. Make sense? Okay, now that we have that out of the way: Bureaucrats can assign and unassign users to groups (usually to make sysops), and can also rename users. People in the developer group can lock and unlock the database. That originally was the only function available, but since then I have extended it somewhat using my developer abilities. And here's the distinction: a developer has direct access to the server and database. They can see server logs, view raw database data, and modify system software (to improve upon it). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
::And is there anything special about Joey Day's "proprietor" group? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::No, it was created for purely narcissistic purposes (Joey's words, not mine). -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:42, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:::: This is true. There is nothing special about the [[Special:Listusers/proprietor|proprietor]] user group. I'm not usually one to be so narcissistic, but I thought it made some sense, and I did it mostly because I could. We've never been able to create custom user groups before MediaWiki 1.5, or I might've created a proprietor group a long time ago. Actually, in a way this is the opposite of narcissistic, as it allows for the possibility of others having proprietorship at some time in the future, and adds a layer of abstraction between myself and the title of proprietor. In the past, we've always linked directly to my user page in places where we mention the proprietor, but we should change all those places to link to the proprietor list. I'll get right on that. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== Dr. Who Never Strikes Again ==

Ok. I've got to admit, somewhat grudgingly, that you caught me earlier. I AM in fact Dr. Who. But I really wasn't planning on using this account for vandalism. Yesterday after I attacked the fanstuff wiki I saw that I had hurt someone's feelings and I felt terrible when it put a personal face on what I'd done. I'm ready and willing to talk to you about why and how I did all of that trolling if you just give me this chance. Of course, I would understand if you banned me right away, but I'm asking you to give it a try. Sincerely, [[User:Taco Salad of My Dreams|Taco Salad of My Dreams]]
:I can't speak for all the other sysops, but I won't ban you if you're willing to talk civilly. The whole reason I posted on your talk page was to find out about you and talk to you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
::Ok then, here goes. I believe the first trolling I ever did was under the name "you smell", where I added that phrase several times to the [[Characters]] page. I decided that it was funny that someone coming to learn would see that (yes, I know, very immature and stupid of me). That was the full extent that I knew of what I was doing. I later learned of the concept of wiki vandalism from Uncyclopedia. I have been using this wiki for years without knowing exactly how maintenance worked; when I did I became jealous of the sysops. I wished to make a name for myself here without doing years of work (rather like WoW, I was trying to gain infamy). My attacks became somewhat meaner as I went on, and I attacked users when I got tired of simply tampering with content. I started thinking of ways to justify it to myself, such as that injustice was being done to me over userboxes, or that my name alone had gotten me banned. I guess I saw it as a way to "break loose" because I am normally NOT a rude or confrontational person. I just stopped for two reasons: I was ashamed of myself, and I was inspired by the way [[User:Granola|Yeltensic]] had turned himself around. In any case, I am deeply sorry. The least I can do is tell you how I did the vandalism so that you can better protect against anything that might happen in the future.
::I used two dynamic IP's: Safari and AOL. Aol has a set of three or four dynamic IP's that change within a narrow range from page to page. Safari's IP changes once every day, but it usually retains the first two segments (75.123.12.32, 75.123.32.34.... and so on). I opened numerous windows at once and typed in my edits and (sigh) summeries. This way the vandalism was at a high speed. I hope at least me telling you this helps (or rather, that you won't need it). [[User:Taco Salad of My Dreams|Taco Salad of My Dreams]]
:::I am willing to give you a chance. Several of your latest incarnations have actually showed some promise, and I hope you can build on that. Once again, I can't speak for all users and sysops, but in general we're a pretty forgiving bunch. I caution you that you will have to prove yourself (assuming others also give you a chance), and our collective patience with you might not be what it would be for a normal new user.
:::Thanks for the technical info (although I did already know that, by the way; that's how I was able to post on your talk page before you'd even made any real edits). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:58, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


== Message from Nikolce Kocovski ==

Greetings Dotty, how are you. I havn't spoken with you in a while. how have you been these couple of weeks? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:32, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
:Uhh Dotty, where are you, are you busy or something? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::Hello, Nikolce. I'm fine, and I hope you're well. Yeah, life can be kind of hectic sometimes. But we gotta keep on tranglin'! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

== SPONGE 001 ==

Who is your favorite H*R character?[[User:SPONGE 001|SPONGE 001]] 19:18, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

== Documentary ==
Thanks for that page move. As I saw the whole thing unfold on Recent changes, I thought "what the heck is he doing"? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:54, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:No problem. Hey, do me a favor: Instead of pressing [edit] over on the right to start a new topic, please press the [ + ] (plus) button at the top of the page (in between the main edit button and the history button). (Or, at the very least, please clear the old subheading from the edit summary.) Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:02, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I always wondered what that button did. Cool, I'll try hard to remember to. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 03:09, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== New special page ==

I've been seeing a lot of pages with the name Test being deleted, along with images. May I ask what going on? {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 03:59, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

:We're testing something. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

::What I meant was what are you testing. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 11:51, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

:::It's a special page that has to do with [[Special:Personalimages|image management]]. <s>It's not ready yet,</s> but when it is, it will be linked from an HRWiki page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:55, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
::::That's really, really cool. I've been waiting for something like that... A way to see who owns what image(s) quickly. This should certainly be helpful in managing 'em, eh? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Indeed. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:45, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

==H*bad==

I would like to request to have my user name changed from H*bad to something else, at the fanstuff wiki, how do I do that?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:56, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

:If the name of our [[HRWiki:Changing username|changing username]] page is any indication, I estimate it would be at [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki:Changing username|HRFWiki:Changing username]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

== IP Checking ==

There's been a fair amount of debate about accounts that seem to be all created by H*bad. Since we lack any ability to check for IP addresses, would you be able to see if the following accounts share the same IP?: [[HRFWiki:User:H*bad|H*bad]], [[HRFWiki:User:H*bad1|H*bad1]], [[HRFWiki:User:Darth Homestar Runner|Darth Homestar Runner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Darth Homestar runner|Darth Homestar runner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Guyforerunner|Guyforerunner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Godzillarunner|Godzillarunner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Homestarrunner101|Homestarrunner101]], [[HRFWiki:User:Running along|Running along]]. Any info you could get would be much combobulated. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 01:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:They're the same (except I'm not sure about Guyforerunner). See also [[User_talk:Tom#Emergency|this discussion]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:41, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
::What in the world. My friend created H*bad1 at my house. Thats why he has the same IP address as mine, I believe. He called me up and told me that you guys are like people who want to put salt in an open wound. Why you do this to him? I will keep on fighting this little thing about H*bad1. I explained all of this cwap at [[HRFWiki:My dark side|My dark side]]--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 05:52, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Um... yeah. Okay. First of all, don't let people make accounts using your computer, and if you do, have them choose a different name from you. (That still doesn't explain all the other names, by the way.) But I don't really want to get into it here, as it has been discussed on other pages, like you point out. Super Sam simply asked me whether the IPs matched and I answered him. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:02, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

== MediaWiki Extensions ==

Cool, two headings in a row. Alrighty, I have two things to talk about. One - would you be able to post your source code for the extensions you wrote somewhere, such as [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Mediawiki_Extensions here]? Two - do you know how to add a tab from within an extension? I figured out how to do it by editing SkinTemplate.php, but is there any way to have the same effect through an extension? (I'm trying to add a purge tab next to watch/unwatch). - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 10:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:I do plan to publish the extensions I have written. They need a bit of polishing, standardizing, and commenting before I would post them in a public place, however. As for the tab thing, I'm guessing you want more of an add-on file rather than a patch in the original file? I'm not currently familiar enough with how the tabs are generated to be able to give you a good answer to that one, but I would be surprised if it could be done with a standalone extension. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
::Alrighty, thanks. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 11:42, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Here's a little way to add a purge button using [[User:Super Sam/monobook.js|your monobook.js]] that I came up with and Dot com fixed to actually work properly:
<pre>//Add purge cache button
function addPurgeButton()
{
var href = document.location.href;
{
var historyHref = document.getElementById( "ca-history" ).firstChild.href;
var div = document.getElementById( "p-cactions" );
var ul = div.getElementsByTagName( "ul" )[0];
var newLi = document.createElement( "li" );
var newA = document.createElement( "a" );
newA.setAttribute( "href" , historyHref.replace( "=history" , "=purge" ) );
var text = document.createTextNode( "Purge" );
newA.appendChild( text );
newLi.appendChild( newA );
ul.appendChild( newLi );
}
}
if ( window.addEventListener ) window.addEventListener( "load" , addPurgeButton , false );
else if ( window.attachEvent ) window.attachEvent( "onload", addPurgeButton );</pre>
:::Let us know how that works. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

== Dr.... Who? ==

Who was Dr. Who? why did he/she get kicked off so many times? I am asking this because as I travel around this Wiki I saw alot about Dr. Who. Just curious, {{User:Grit7/sig}}
:See [[#Dr. Who Never Strikes Again]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

== Captcha on move page ==

I'd like to ask you a question, and if it's been asked before, I'm very sorry. I'd just like to ask what the purpose of applying a CAPTCHA to the Move Page over on the Fanstuff Wiki is. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:49, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
:It's to prevent a bot from being able to move pages as vandalism, and to discourage human vandals from doing the same. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:53, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
::If that's the case, why isn't it the same here? If I recall correctly (which is unlikely), this knowledge base has had more page-move vandalism than the Fanstuff. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 00:01, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Er... It ''is'' the same here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. I must be out of date then. Never mind. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 00:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it's not. Well, at least, it's not for me with my almighty sysoply privilages. Is it like that for ordinary users? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, it is. I had to use it until a couple weeks ago when I was sysopped. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:26, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Oh. Huh. I didn't even realize. That puts WoW in a whole new light of non-life. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:27, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

== Grizzly Chomps ==

Hi It's dot com,

I had a question, and I'm not sure where else to put it. Can you explain why you didn't you think my "Grizzly chomps" fun fact in the Candy Product was a good one? I may be biased, but I think it applies pretty well. TBC have been known to reference old and obscure pop-culture items in the past, and I can't think of any other "pre-bitten" candy product sold in stores. I'd like to think they had this product in mind when they made the toon. You can even Google for it and read up on it.

Anyhow, I just wanted to know what my options were for debating this fact. Is this is something I could put in STUFF for debate? And if so, how?

The submission was:
*The "built-in bite" shape of SBLOUNSKCHED! may refer to Grizzly Chomps, a [[Wikipedia:Hostess|Hostess]]-brand treat introduced in 1992. The package included two chocolate cupcakes with a bite-mark shape cut out of them, and the package bore a cartoon bear saying, "I start 'em, you finish 'em."

:I removed it because the Grizzly Chomps are so old and obscure that any similarity to SBLOUNSKCHED is likely just a coincidence. None of the secondary details match, especially the reason for the bite. In the case of Grizzly Chomps, the bear helps you eat it for some reason, but Strong Bad calls the bite in his candy a security measure to deter others from eating it. I think that TBC independently thought it was funny to have a bite missing from the candy, and to suggest otherwise is too much speculation for my taste.
:    That said, I am more than willing to help you set up a STUFF item. The relevant instructions are at [[HRWiki:STUFF/Newfact]]. You need to start at "2. The STUFF subpage". Hope that helps! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:37, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::I went ahead and STUFF'd it for you. You can have the next one. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks! I appreciate that. [[User:Compdude|Compdude]]

== Recent block ==

Looking at the [[Special:Ipblocklist|Block list]], I saw that you banned User:Fire Man. Are you sure you've got the right guy? Looking at [[Special:Contributions/Fire Man|his contribs]] he only made one edit and it wasn't anything bad. He seems like a perfectly fine user. I think he's innocent so you should unblock him. Any reason why you blocked him in the first place? {{User:Tampo/sig}} 02:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:You are correct about the number and type of contribs for that account. I am unblocking it on a provisional basis. I remind whoever needs to hear it that vandalism and flagrant abuse of the wiki's policies will not be tolerated. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:50, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

== The Clamburger ==

Could you please mark [[HRFWiki:User:Clamburger|Clamburger]] as a bot on the fanstuff? It's really cluttering Recent Changes. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 13:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:Why are you asking ''me'' when [[User:Tom|Tom]] has [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 4#The Clamburger Bot|already given you an answer]] on this one? If you want to appeal, you'll have to take it up with him. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:03, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

== Reply ==

Do you think you can awnser the question on the [[Talk:Secret Pages]] page? I want to know how to get into the index of files/pages. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 01:32, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Secret Pages

H*R 700 — Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:27:32 GMT

H*R 700: /* REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTION */

== Secret Pages with their own pages ==

I just removed four external links to secret pages that have their own articles: [[Not the 100th Email!!!]], [[website]], [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and [[Email Processing Room]]. After doing so, I started thinking it might be worth our while to have some of the other pages that are linked to from here to have their own page. I mean, some of those old intros and stuff could use screenshots and better descriptions. So instead of a page with mostly external links, we would have a page with links to individual wiki pages about each secret page. How's that sound?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:20, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

Hmm... Sounds interesting. I just made a page for "Sing Along". Some of this stuff doesn't lend itself to wiki pages particularly well, though. I suppose the previews could go on the pages that they are previewing ("Reddest Raddish" preview on the "Reddest Raddish" page), but what about stuff like "Wireless Bizness?" That doesn't need a wiki page all to itself, does it? -FatPamPam

:I think it would be easy enough to judge what could use a page. And I've added [[Sing Along]] to a new [[:Category:Secret Pages]] category.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:34, 19 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Wireless Thingy ==

The old Wireless Bizness thing is not working anymore. Does someone have the transcripts for those emails?
- [[User:The Brothers E|The Brothers E]]

I've been looking for the exact same thing for a while now. I've been on Homestar for a while and I was around while it was up. I remember it being hysterical. The only one I remember from it was the Salty Plum Soda one from stu that later became the rollover button on the toons page. I REALLY want someone to find this. [[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:25, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

Yeah! There was another one where he was trying help some guy out with the ladies, and his advice was basically, get a lot of money and cars, or switch to dudes. Is anyone else looking for this?

Yes I am. FIND IT, OR I WILL RAVAGE THE UNIVERSE!!!!!! Muhahahahaha. I er, um...suppose. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 23:39, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== SB Sign Explanation? ==

Might the "i am awesomer than you" Strong Bad "sign" actually be Strong Bad's "sign"ature on the Message Bored? Because the rules for the board imply that the characters, or at least Strong Bad, post. And it certainly seems like something Strong Bad would use on a message board.

== Wonder Years ==

Where did this page ever come from? It's in the "/sadjournal" folder.

:You might want to check out the [[Strong Sad's Lament]] and [[The Secrets That I Keep]] pages.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:47, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Can't Find Marzipan Answering Machine Message ==

So I've gone through all of the Marzipan answering machine messages, and I can't find one that I remember from a while back -- a prank of Strong Bad imitating Homestar Runner, saying that he'd accidentally killed someone and he needs Marzipan to meet him and bring a bunch of towels and plastic trash bags and shovels. Anyone know where I can find this little gem? Hi-larious.
*That's in [[Where's The Cheat?]] →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:33, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Halloween 01 ==

While I was searching for the swf file for Homestarloween (tto lazy to go to the wiki page), I tried going to "halloween01.swf", and I got [http://www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf this]. Is this already up here and I just can't find it, or can I add it? And what is Coach Z dressed as? Pom Pom, too (no pun intended...though I think it's "the Skipper too"...no pun intended). --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]]
: I can't get it to work right now (dang those secret pages!) but I believe I've seen it before. I even have a picture of it on my computer. Basically, it's the entire cast minus Homsar in their 2001 Halloween costumes - almost. Pom Pom seems to be Gilligan's Skipper, and Coach Z is a Noid (an old pizza commercial mascot). --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:16, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Marzipan is also dressed like Velma from Scooby-Doo. The chheat has a different shirt too. I wonder where The KOT's moustache went? For some reason, that bouncing dot thing on the Poopsmith's costume (on the chest of his "armor" is moving up and down and back and forth. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:39, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:The bouncing dot is the LEDs from the Lazer Tag game. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:47, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== King of Town ==

Does anyone know anything about http://homestarrunner.com/mainking.html
:[[King Of Town Main Page|Yes]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:58, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== If I ran the camera ==

I was just poking around the Wayback Machine and I found [http://web.archive.org/web/20021112210701/homestarrunner.com/ifiranthecamera this]. It doesn't seem to be on the current site and my computer is weird about some of the wayback archives. Can anybody get it to work? --'''[[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]]''' 15:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''''This discussion has been moved to [[Talk:If I Ran the Camera]].'''''


== Secret Buying Link ==

Hey guys. I found a sorta sercet page. Here's a link.
[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/heythanks.html] I found it when I was buying the new dvd. --[[Special:Randompage|Random man]] 22:38, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

We have seen it before, but good find. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:See [[Talk:Store#Hey Thanks]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:43, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Sucky treats costumes? ==

"www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf" does not exist anymore.. you get a 404'd error.. is there a mirror somewhere? if not.. someone should make one and relink it.. or something.

:Works for me. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:07, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::See [[Halloween Costumes#The House That Gave Sucky Treats (2001)]]. And the link works fine for me as well.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:08, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::No, i mean the hidden costumes page? the one that Coach Z is the Noid, and Marzipan is Velma from scooby doo.. the costumes are on that page, but not the flash file. Its linked from Secret pages, but (on my computer anyway?) its a 404'd.[[User:Collin|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Collin|Collin]] 04:12, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::Most of the time secret pages are 404'd. Just try again at a later date. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 04:14, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I'm talking about [http://www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf http://www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf], the Flash file you linked to. It works fine for me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:16, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::Oh.. well i guess i'm just retarded then.. thanx though. [[User:Collin|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Collin|Collin]] 04:31, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

By the way, there's a very similar conversation to this one just [[#Halloween 01|a few sections up]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:25, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::hahahha i just get more retarded as this conversation continues.. maybe i should do soemething about this.. [[User:Collin|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Collin|Collin]] 04:21, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Wow. I was looking for that file on the Wiki a while back. Couldn't find it (guess it was in 404 mode at the time, as I remember a "Halloween" page acting oddly...) Actually, I had the picture saved to disk for reasons that I no longer remember, and conveniently made the pictures on the Costumes page from that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== A mirror for the secret pages' files ==

I think we all agree that the old SWF files that we link to on this page do not work from time to time. I propose that Tom upload some (if not all) of these files to the wiki's mirror. Now that the forum is being hosted elsewhere (hats off to the kind individual from ''HomestarRules''), increased bandwidth usage as a result of the mirror isn't an issue. These files, in all likelihood, are on TBC's site indefinately. When/if these files finally go the way of "A Jumping Jack Contest" and "Marshmallow's Last Stand" (albeit for different reasons) it will/would be nice to have a mirror firmly in place. I am not proposing a removal of the current link(s) to the secret page under "External Links". Rather, an additional link for those people who get 404'd on occasion. Comments? {{User:The Paper/sig}} 05:27, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I agree.. it would be nice to have both links in the secrets page, like Main page and Mirror.. you could put some sort of note at the top that says the mirror is there for if the pages don't work. And i'm sure the mirror wouldn't get too much bandwidth abuse since the original files are on the website, its only like backup. And if the pages do ever go on permanent haitus then its no biggie since they're on the hrwiki right? --[[User:Collin|Collin]] 05:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Secret? ==

I was just browsing around archive.org and found [http://web.archive.org/web/20010129043500/http://homestarrunner.com/broncoend.html this]. The intersting part of the scourse says <pre><TITLE>Play Again</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgcolor="#000000">

<A HREF=broncotrolleys.html></A> 
<center><OBJECT classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
codebase="http://active.macromedia.com/flash2/cabs/swflash.cab#version=4,0,0,0"
ID=broncoend WIDTH=550 HEIGHT=400>
<PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="broncoend.swf"> <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high> <PARAM NAME=bgcolor VALUE=#FFFFFF> <EMBED src="broncoend.swf" quality=high bgcolor=#FFFFFF WIDTH=550 HEIGHT=400 TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash" PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></EMBED>
</OBJECT></center>
</BODY></pre>
It seems to be connected to [[Bronco Trolleys]]. Probably a "Game Over" screen. --[[User:81.230.154.89|81.230.154.89]] 16:35, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Scary Cake? ==

What happens when you click on the cherry from the Matt Cake page? From past experience, I think I'm a bit afraid to. Can anyone tell me?
:There's not much to it; you just see this other face appear in front of the "cake face". Oh, and sign your posts. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 07:03, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

::That's the face of Dennis Franz, in case you were wondering.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:09, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

== Cleanup ==
This page isn't very organised. It's in six categories, but within those categories, they're just a mess. They're just strewen about in the order they were added. It needs to be cleaned up. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

:See also [[#Secret Pages with their own pages]] as a possibility.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:26, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Secret Pages ==

I was browsing for images from Homestar Runner.com on Google Image Search and I found:

http://www.homestarrunner.com/amazon.html - its like a fake Amazon.com page.

http://www.homestarrunner.com/weenstuff/weenstuff1.html to http://www.homestarrunner.com/weenstuff/weenstuff40.html - although there might be a link to these, it is in museum format.

http://www.homestarrunner.com/weeklies/fanstuff_pic.jpg - this is a pic used as current weekly fanstuff, it is updated with the flash file because it actually isn't changed, just the picture and the text are (this is mentioned on the weekly fanstuff article). For some strange reason, the page it is supposed to be on redirects to http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Weekly_Fanstuff

pictures such as http://www.homestarrunner.com/costumes03.html are apparently from Fan Costume Commentary, however these are 404'd, so they are probably no-longer on the site.

[http://www.homestarrunner.com/hsbackground.jpg] - who knows?

http://www.homestarrunner.com/hsstamp.gif - the stamp used in the e-mail page.

nearly forgot to add my signature - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 06:01, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:Bookazon.com/Bookazon.egg: linked to from [[studying]]
:weenstuff1 through 40: already linked (I think)
:hsbackground.jpg: the background for [[Homestar's Website]]
::Not sure about the others. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 09:12, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Cool Tapes, it's always good to know stuff - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I did my homework and here is what i found out: the stamp is on the old e-mail updates page, but was re-used in the current e-mails page. I guess I know why nobody pointed that out, they all thought I knew - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 08:50, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== Cleanup Idea ==

For cleaning this up, would it be helpful if we made it a gallery, like the [[Toons]] page? For this that have no music, we could upload a graphic saying "NO IMAGE AVAILABLE". This is just my idea. I don't see much fodder on this page to get started with, so I'll clean it up if I know what we need. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 17:26, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
:Here's my suggestion:
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Screenshot!! Name !! Description !! External Links
|-
|[[Image:games menu 2001.png|100px]] || '''[[Third Games Menu]]''' || One of the old game menus. || [[HR:games.swf|View the Flash file]]
|}
:I think that would work really well. A re-order would be nice, too. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:40, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
::Good idea. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:39, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Also, I don't think we should do the same format for the toon previews. It would take up too much space and would just not be worth it. Perhaps we could put links to the previews to all the toons individually instead of taking up the space here. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:58, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:::True that. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:34, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes, I would argue about those being a secret page, as you can actually see them every time you mouseover a toon. I'd suggest moving them to the external links section of the corresponding toon. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:01, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I guess they're not secret pages. Otherwise it could be arguesd that (nearly?) all flash files are Secret Pages, as the only links on the site are the .html pages. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:22, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Sounds good to me, a bit of additional external linkage never hurt nobody. Since somebody's already deleted them, I'm gonna go ahead and get the links out of the page archive, and add them to their respective pages. Ooooor, should they go to just the [[Toons]] page? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:37, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I'd say both, if possible. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::''Or'' they could have their own page, with descriptions for each one. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:53, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::A seperate page, I think is a bit excessive. Perhaps both might be the best way to go. Just add an extra column to the tables [[Toons|here]], and then external linkage on all of them. Any objections? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:55, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::First table's [[Toons|done]]. Hows that look? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I don't see why they should be added to the toon pages themselves. The three links we currently have (HTML, Flash, and Forum) are links that people actually need. I myself click on them all the time. The link to the Flash file of the Toons menu would be pointless. Since they're a part of the Toons menu, a list of them there would be appropriate. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:18, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm fine with it on the Toons page. Carry on. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::::::::::What if "preview" was the ''last'' column? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:29, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:Wow The page looks great! If you don't mind I have taken the liberty to remove the cleanup tag. If you feel there's more to do, please say so and feel free to place it there again. Joshua, IRF, et. al., you've done a superb job! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:55, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

== Fan Costumes ==
Does someone have a mirror of the fan costumes secret page? The link seems to be down for good... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:[http://web.archive.org/web/20041019030433/http://www.homestarrunner.com/costumes01.html].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:44, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::That's not exactly a mirror, and it's only one page... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:::The pages were all exactly like that. The image would be shown, and a flash file would play [[Strong Bad]]'s comment. If I remember correctly, the Fash file also contained "next" and "prev" buttons.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:46, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I remember it. It was just like the toon except with those buttons and Strong Bad didn't talk. I was just wondering if we had an exact working mirror for new users. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

::::The SWF file does not load correctly from the archive. And so it's features cannot be seen. However, it might be possible to get the SWF from the mirror (if they have it) download the HTML and play both together from your hard drive. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::It seems the archive did not save the SFW file as I cannot find it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::I have the SWF file if you need it. Shoot me an email if you would like me to send it your way. tpaper AT gmail dot com. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 04:57, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks! I just sent out the email. However, the main reason I asked was to see if there's a way it could be hosted locally on the hrwiki mirror. Though I don't know if we have all the necessary files... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::I sent it to you and to [[User:Tom|Tom]]. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 02:13, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::I got the file thanks! It works great! However, there is one um... not so slight problem: it seems that there is a separate swf file for each picture. i.e. costumes02.swf ... costumes11.swf (along with their HTML and jpegs of course). The archive only seems to have the html pages (except maybe 9) and jpegs 1,4, and 7. Do you, by any chance... have everything else? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:56, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

== Two Questions: ==

I have two questions:
#Where did [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&oldid=205808#Previews these] go?
#and why do they not appear on [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=206299&oldid=206289 this diff] which is the last one where they appeared. at.
#These preview SWFs are all valid links if they've simply been removed. However [[User:Invisible_Robot_Fish|IRF]] did point out something important: the links to this page were originally meant to be for stuff that could NOT be linked to or seen from anywhere unless you type in the URL yourself. This page has many links to SWF's and other things that are actually part of many easter eggs or navigation features. If we restrict our criteria to the original intent most of this page would be gone. I think that we should create a separate page that lists all of these files (such as the preview SWF's above) that are visible SWF features in and of themselves ''(I used to think it was "in it of themlseves")'' but do not have their own HTML "frontend". (Or are special in some sense). Such links would indeed have a place in the encyclopedic nature of this wiki.
#As a side note, the [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#XML|Stinkoman XML files]] could be [[Stinkoman_20X6_Source_Files|linked to]] from here (and perhaps their XML sources be copied for those who don't know how to see xml sources and are curious).
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:To answer your main question, the toon previews were moved [[Toons|here]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:09, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::Where did the holiday and puppet previews go, then? They're not on the list. Also, the list could use some standardising... Some put it in the last column, some put it in the second... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::The list is still a work in progress, and is unfinished. The Holiday and Puppet previews still need to be added. Also, at first they were put in the second column, but then it was decided that the last column looks better so they were switched over. So some of them still need to be added, and some need to be switched to the last column. And I really have to get off this wiki and finish my homework. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Homework? What's that!? ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:17, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm still curious to know why this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=206299&oldid=206289 diff] does not show the removal of the items. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:35, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

:You want the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=206442&oldid=206299 next diff].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:16, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks! I see it now! I wish I had checked it earlier. OH! I see the problem now. It still baffled me why the incongruency between the diff and the time the change actually took place. Between [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=prev&oldid=206299 these] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=next&oldid=206299 two] diffs, the earlier reflect the visual removal in the text but not the diff, whereas the latter finally shows the actualy removal in the code. I had not seen that that section I was looking at had been commented out(like this: <code><nowiki></nowiki></code>) and thought there might be some bug in the diff system. Again, thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:25, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== one of these things is not like the others ==

since my correction was already reverted I will take my concerns here:

In my opinions the following items '''do not belong''' as secret pages. They are easter eggs... clickable from normal toons. They are not hidden URLs that you would have to know about like all the others on this page.

*50 cake
*Seriously!
*Virus'd QoD
*Virus'd Fanstuff
*Virus'd Sketchbook
*The Sweet Cuppin' Cakes buddy icons
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:But to see them ''seperately'', you would have to know some special URL. That's the key, I thinks. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::The place for them is not on this page, its on the individual toon in which they were egged, (which they already are). Eggs just don't belong as secret pages. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:24, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::As long as they're in a seperate section from the other things (''Site Components'') I'm fine with them here. Yes, you can see them, but they pages they are on are secret pages. (The content isn't secret, but the page is.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:43, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:::I see nothing wrong with having a collection or list of these (as I pointed out in the discussion above this one). Joshua and Dorian are right, the URLs they reside on are secret. We ''could'' still differentiate them in the way I deliniated above. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::They ''are already'' differentiated. They have their own category. [[Secret Pages#Site Components]] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:24, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::I didn't even see the above convesation, they are pretty much the same topic. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:38, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

== Site Components ... You can't have it both ways ==

Ok I'm trying to appease those that want some of these site components here on the secret pages, but you can't it both ways.

The following are item that are easily and can be clicked on:
50 cake
Seriously!
Virus'd QoD
Virus'd Fanstuff
Virus'd Sketchbook
The Sweet Cuppin' Cakes buddy icons

I tried to have them removed but was overruled.

Now items that are equally clickable but bring up seperate pages are the items I've just added.

Either allow them all or delete them all. Personally, I think that they all should be removed as non of them are secret. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:32, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

:Hi IRF, I looked at the entries that were removed and here's the distinction I could make: the ones that you added had html pages that were linked to the museum and their flash components were linked directly from the HTML page. All of these entries already have their own page and link to the flash file itself like all other toon pages. The links posted in the site components page are different. These are actually ''flash files within flash files'', for which you can't simply open the flash file look at its source and examine the URL of its components. These are special flash files used as components of the main flash files in question. I hope that clears up your questions. (As a side note, and per my suggestions above, these should probably have their own separate page). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:46, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

::Both have the same format, a new window pops-up without an address bar from clicking on a flash file. They are both flash within a flash. The only difference is one is moving toon, and the other is a static menu. I still hold that either they all go or they all stay. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:26, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
:::It's twue. [/homestar] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::Then they should either all stay or be moved to their own page. Deleting interesting content (that's even been here a while) is not a good practice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:50, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::: (EDIT CONFLICT'D! Ow, my point!) Actually, that's true only of the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes stuff, which is also the only item I'd seriously consider dropping. "Seriously" is separate from the wallpapers and everything else appears in the same window. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:54, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::: Also, I forgot to say: not having an address bar does not stop you from seeing the URL or viewing the source... if you know where to look (try right-clicking outside the 'toon itself.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::::'''Edit Conflict''' Ok I see what you mean now. I hadn't yet looked at the museum flash file, just the flash linked from the wiki page (ugh habits ... habits). You're absolutely right! They are flash components in the same way as the ones listed currently on site components. More specifically, some are shown as flash-within-flash (like the pom-pom first flash, the story of pom-pom, and the now-listed Seriously! egg), others open a new page (like original games menu, the original characters page, and the "Making out" easter egg in virus). On that standard, yes they should be on that page too! But they are not as secret. Again, I don't think it is useful to ''simply delete'' these components. A better home might be a [[Site Components]] page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:58, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::::On another note, isle of pom, biz cas fri, tennis, etc all have their own html "cradle pages", the Virus Qod, etc. do ''not'' have such a page. More to the point: like Jay said, having an html cradled page does not preclude you from finding the flash source file, however you do not have that luxury with an in-line flash file without the use of an expensive decompiler. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:01, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

== SuperBrave ==

The mirrored links aren't working. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTION ==

How do you people find all the secret pages on H*R? I really would like to know, so I can find a secret page or two on another website I'm a fan of.

Yeah, I've always been wondering about that, too. Whoever knows, tell us! Wait, you mean like, the index of files, right? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 01:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page

H*R 700 — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:29:50 GMT

H*R 700: /* NSMC is at it again */

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— [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge Purge the cache] —</div>
{{Main Page Talk}}

== Domain ==

I know I sound like a scunge and all but, I have absolutely no way of paying for a domain. If someone took on this job I would add donation links and all to my website and the whole shibang. I know this is off topic to [http://homestarrunner.com homestarrunner.com] but this is the only place people view. {{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 06:32, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

:I don't think anybody here's going to want to pay for your own domain. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:53, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

::You never know, but I really doubt someone will pay for a domain for you. I think for now you should stay with what you've got. As long as your website works and people can use it, it can grow really big. If the site becomes really succesful, popular and have heaps of content, you can then think about getting a domain name and maybe paying for hosting. Remember that the H*R Wiki was originally just a subdomain of Joey's site (hrwiki.joeyday.com), which meant he didn't really pay anything extra for the wiki at first. Start small. It will take even a year to get the wiki fully started and having enough content to be a good resource. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 11:48, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Pertmywert, domain names cost about nine dollars for one year. I think you could realisticly save up for one in a fairly short period of time.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:32, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

::::I have no way of paying them though. :( {{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 02:56, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::[https://www.godaddy.com/ GoDaddy] takes [https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/prepayment/landing.asp PayPal, Checking Account Debit, Credit Cards, and Cash]. Do you have any of those?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:13, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::Nope. :( {{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 03:46, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Well, some day then.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:35, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I'm pretty sure all you need to sign up for PayPal is a bank account. It takes a bit of work to get it set up, but once it is, it's like an extra account for online transactions. That's all I can suggest. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:11, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::Does Suncorp count as a bank account? {{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 22:12, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::Sorry, correction. I'm pretty sure your bank has to have online services. Check your local bank, see if you can sign up for online banking. That's what you need. I know at least Royal Bank of Canada and Scotiabank both support online banking. Most big ones do. Small chains I'm not too sure about though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:17, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::Actually, just in a brief look at PayPal, I don't think that's the case, just an ordinary bank account will do. But maybe Thunderbird was looking harder than I was. (At any rate, Suncorp does have online banking.) Anyway, if you know your bank account number, take it to PayPal and see what happens! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::::LIAR! I have a suncorp account and it does have internet banking. And I am Australian. :P {{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 10:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::::Um... I imagine you're responding to Thunderbird, but aren't you saying exactly what I said above you? Anyway, congratulations; looks like you're in business. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 10:35, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::::::I have changed my mind. I am gonna stay subdomain for a while. :-) {{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 10:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Idea? ==

I'm not quite sure where to put this idea, so i'll put it here. What about, instead of just the <nowiki>{{tobedeleted}}</nowiki> tag, we have a matching one for talk pages? Something like: <nowiki> {{talktobedeleted}} </nowiki> or something? The only reason i'm suggesting this is because when you put the <nowiki> {{tobedeleted}} </nowiki> tag on troll talk pages, the link takes you to a Talk:Talk:(pagename) page. If this is a bad idea or we already have something like this or if it's a good idea, let me know. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 18:06, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:We already have [[Template:talktobedeleted]]. And there's always the multipurpose [[Template:delete]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:09, 15 October 2005 (BST)

Oh, okay. Thank you Venusy. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 18:11, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

==I think today's the day...==
[[Image:2millionpageviews.PNG|thumb|298px|Here's to 2,000,002 more!]]
'''From the bottom of the main page:''' This page has been accessed 1,997,176 times. 
19:13, 21 October 2005 (UTC) -- 1,997,417 
19:48, 21 October 2005 (UTC) -- 1,997,749 
20:27, 21 October 2005 (UTC) -- 1,998,181 
21:05, 21 October 2005 (UTC) -- 1,998,587 
23:10, 21 October 2005 (UTC) -- 1,999,867 (ALMOST THERE!) 
23:20, 21 October 2005 (UTC) -- 2,000,002!!! Hooray!!

Earlier today, it was only at about 1,995,176 or so. By the end of the day, I think we might break 2,000,000 main page accesses!!! Going by PDT of course, none of this 'offical dateline' nonsense. And no east coast timezone either, I think my prediction needs the extra three hours. It would have been cooler if it coincided with Wikiday, but it's a good general marker anyways. 2 years, 2,000,000 main page views. (I know I'm ignoring the discrepency between starting with Wiki Tiki Tavi and starting main page view counting with Mediawiki). Any any case though, I'm hyped. It's a good marker. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:53, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
:At the rate you're reporting, we will break the 2,000,000 threshhold within three hours. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:43, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yea, after my initial prediction, I realized that we just might make it before the official dateline clicks over. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:05, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

:::At our current rate, we will pass two million between 23:15 and 23:25 UTC. However, we may accelerate or decelerate depending on things like people getting out of school/work and the fact that it's Friday night. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:22, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

::::We've been using MediaWiki since 19:45, 16 July 2004 (UTC) [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=1], by the way.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:32, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::But it was locked for the first three weeks to most common folk, right? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:11, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::From the date and time listed above until about 17:36, 13 September 2004 (UTC).[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:19, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Yay!! Streamers! Balloons! "You are the two millionth visitor! You have won a year's supply of wiki!" Notice it was right in the middle of the window I predicted. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:20, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::::Yup, nice calculating, Dot Com. That's the closest screen I could get. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:28, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

I know it's kinda late and all, but I just had to do it :) 
<center>You're the [[Image:Counter2000000.gif]]th biggest moron, ever.</center>

== Wikipedia article in progress for HRWiki! ==

I've laid the foundation for a [[Wikipedia:Main Page|Wikipedia]] article about HRWiki. It's on my user subpage there until it has enough content to make a complete, non-stub article about it.
Here's the link:
[[Wikipedia:User:Kookykman/HRWiki article in progress]] - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:EDIT: The talk page for discussion of the article can be found here: [[Wikipedia:User talk:Kookykman/HRWiki article in progress]]. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Inactive Admins ==
Um... the admins AgentSeeThroo, FortyTwo, FurryKef and Stu are inactive, and some of these are the original 5. They haven't made any contributions in months. What happens when an admin goes inactive? Does he get de-admined after a while? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:11, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

:No.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:12, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
::Even FurryKef who has done next to nothing since he gained adminship? (I guess there's no reason to de-adminize anyone...) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:30, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Yes, even Furrykef. Why are you so concerned about this?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:06, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::The only reason to de-admin someone is if they actually harm the wiki in some way. Otherwise, you might as well leave them admin in case they come back. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 00:12, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::Or if they were to request to be taken off the roster. Then I'm sure JoeyDay would respect their wishes. But I don't think tha'd happen all to often. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:00, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

:I don't know why I cared so much, I guess its just awkward to me to have inactive admins. (Everything else I've been a major part of got rid of inactive admins.) But I see why NOT to get rid of inactive admins, so I'll just leave it at that. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 01:03, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::Stu may be inactive on the wiki, but he's far from inactive on the forum. Many of our admins do important things around here; they just may not be visible to some of our community members. Others are on hiatus for one reason or another. I guess I'm beating a dead horse now, but there's really no need to de-admin them unless we see suspicious behavior. We have high hopes they'll all return someday. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 16:11, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

== Boy, we must be popular ==

I just happening to notice while trying to find a really good way to explain to a friend just what a wiki exactly is that if you search the web for the word "wiki" on Yahoo! in suggestions for refining your search near the top of the returns page, '''this very wiki''' is listed second and third! Yay! I guess that means we're doing something good. Or at least popular. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 22:51, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
:Wow, that's amazing! I'm surprised something like Wikiquote isn't third. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::Note that we aren't the second result, we are actually the forty-sixth. ACupOfCoffee is just saying that "homestarrunner wiki" is one of the "Also try" links in the results.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:47, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I figured that. A lot of people must search for "Homestarrunner wiki" to make that noticible, though. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::Just remember that "We're not just popular, we're pure lowest common denominator"(Quote from Futurama). -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]]

== Puppet Videos ==

You've just got to check out what I've found...videos of the Chapman's at this convention! It's with this new google feature. -[http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Homestar+Runner&lv=1 Puppet Videos] - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:56, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
:Those are hilarious! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

::Yeah, those are the same ones we link to in the [[Alamo Drafthouse - 10 Jun 2005]] article. Nice snooping though.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:54, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

::: The SB Voice Vid is cool. Especially the end. [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Count_X Count X]
==Wikipedia==
You wikipedia link system is slightly broken. When you write [[Wikipedia:Homestar Runner]] it points to http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestar_Runner instead of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestar_Runner. It still works but eventually wikipedia may stop this workaround which so far is being preserved for histrorical reasons. Some discussion occured a couple of weeks ago about whether the old links should be done away with (they decided against it). Your site ought to change to the newer version just in case. [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2005-10-24/Multilingual redirects]] might be enlightening (that's a lot of wikipedia:'s in a row). (~~some guy at wikipedia who also happens to watch HR~~)

:Yeah; I wasn't sure whether that was some kind of provision for people who preferred their 'Pedia in another language. My filtering service, while they have been convinced that they can't very well block "en.wikipedia~", have compromised by blocking "www.wikipedia~" (or maybe it's a relic they've overlooked). Either way, I can't use the links, and have to type in "en" by hand. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:28, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

::Fixed. And I see that the [[MetaWikiPedia:Interwiki map|Interwiki map]] was [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Interwiki_map&diff=52777&oldid=52776 changed a while ago]. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:56, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Still seems broken. It works on this page but others (I noticed it at [[sb_email_22#Explanations]]) still point to the old url (maybe it's a cache issue though). ~~me again~~
::::Yeah, try a hard refresh. They all said en.wikipedia when I looked at them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:21, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== New Halloween Toon... ==

I'm not exactly sure if I'm allowed to post here, because I'm not a real member, but I'd just like someone to know that there is a new Halloween toon, and if someone could update the wiki accordingly... (I'd do it myself, but I'm horrible at Wiki-ing.) Thanks.

- A Guest

:You're certainly allowed to post (and also to [[HRWiki:Introduction|become a member]]!). The page is in progress at [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:36, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:And it is now finished. Please do become a member.{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:02, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

==Build a Timeline?==

I got an idea for a page: a complete timeline of every toon. When I first discovered H*R, I wanted to take it chronologically (which helps; e.g. you meet Homsar in the email that explains his name). However, I did it by simply going through the toons one genre at a time, overlooking some, then going through the sbemails from bottom to top. It would be nice to have something that showed where the toons fell in the chronology of sbemails. Aside from helping anyone who might be trying to do the same thing I did, it would be helpful to tell at a glance what predated what.

One difficulty is that some toons are currently labelled only with the month and year, or even just the year, but I imagine some detective work could figure those out.

So what about it, guys? Is it worth doing? And if so, what should I call it? [[Timeline]]? [[Chronology]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:50, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

:Don't we already have a timeline? How is that different from [[H*R.com updates 2005|H*R.com updates]]? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:01, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

::Hm... no, you're right, that's exactly what I was thinking of. It only goes back to sbemail #7, though; I guess I might make it a long-term goal to do some detective work on the release dates of the earliest days and update it. But not today! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:08, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

:::See also [[Talk:H*R.com updates 2001]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:52, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Yea, sadly that was the best I could come up with for certain (I used [http://www.livejournal.com/community/homestar_runner/2003/ livejournals], and a bit of [http://www.fark.com/ fark]). The one thing further we could do, would be to estimate many of the other toons and main pages, such as the Halloween toons being C. October 31st, 2000, ect. But for those, I think it would be best to use C, to denote 'circa' or 'about', and perhaps B and A for before and after a certain date, if that becomes applicable. That too though, could only go so far. We won't be able to guess everything, just anything reasonable, probably mostly holiday toons. I'll try and get on it later if I have time, you're welcome to start it up too if you want. 2002 and 2003 are pretty much totally finished, maybe a bit of 2002 could be done, but 2001 and 2000 could use some guestimation. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 07:15, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

===Live Journals Side Note:===
If you go to the livejournals site, you'll notice the topics and subjects slowly grow over 2001, 2002, and 2003, but by 2004 they start to shrink again, around the time of the Wiki's creation. Now they're just about back to the state they were in in 2002. It could just be a coincidence, or the Wiki may have just about replaced the use of the livejournals site. Also if you look at any subjects about 'what happened when' type questions, they usually end with something along the lines of 'you know we have a wiki... Right?' Although it does still have a nice exchange of various H*R type avatars and stuff, and cool news such as [http://www.ccawards.com/2004.htm this]. I even found Tom making a visit over there, letting them know about our 2005 pledge drive. Anyways, there's my big contribution to discussion for the day. I'ma go to bed now, probably. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 07:15, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
:I did that? Why don't I remember doing that?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:02, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
::Whups, my bad. I meant IJ. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:38, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff ==

Why is the fanstuff down? {{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 04:15, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

:Works for me. What errors are you getting?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:27, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
::Nevermind. It works now. :){{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 04:28, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

== Animal Commentary Clip ==

I took a sound byte from the Animal commentary and uploaded it on [http://www.putfile.com/ putfile] is it okay for me to post the link?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 01:46, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:How much is it? Is it just the word "wiki"? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 01:49, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::It's: 
<blockquote>
'''MIKE:'''Oh, we messed up here, like, he says "segmented eyes," but he actually has compound eyes. 

'''MATT:''' Ohhh. 

'''MIKE:''' Read that on the wiki. 

'''MATT:''' Good job. 

'''MIKE:''' Goofs. 

'''MATT:''' Goofs. That's a total goof. Str- 
</blockquote>
and then it cuts off.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 01:56, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, post it. I don't think it'll be a problem. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::If you want to link to it from a Talk page or something, just for the purposes of our users having a listen, that would be fine. But I don't think that's something you need to upload to the Wiki and/or put in an article.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:08, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Oh, I won't upload it. I'll post a link on the Animal talk page, and maybe on the email page, if I find a place for it.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 02:45, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
::::It might just be me, but I don't feel comfortable posting a soud file from a DVD on the wiki. I am also fairly uncomfortable with putting a ink up too. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:55, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

== Fan Costumes ==

There is a new Halloween Fan Costumes thing. I already made the page. Somebody make it please:
[[More Halloween Costumes]]

== Editing the main page ==

Noticed that the message scroll on the main page includes "Messenger Bag Sale!", which links to a subpage on the [[Store]] that is not currently linked from the Store main page. The button leads to [http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/messengerbags1.html this page]. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:40, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

:Actually, KieferSkunk, you ''can'' edit the what's new panel. Just go [[Template:whatsnew|here]]. Don't forget to update the [[H*R.com updates 2005|main updates page]] as well, if it hasn't been already. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:53, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

::Although some pages may LOOK like they're protected, some are only protected from moves, [[H*R.com updates 2005]] included. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 14:19, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Well, most users don't have the "protect/unprotect" tab at the top, so they don't see any difference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

::::But we DO see "View Source" insted of "Edit". {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:02, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Hmm... I think they should fix that with the next minor upgrade. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Why it should be fixed? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:54, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Because if you can edit a page, it should read "edit" at the top, not "view source". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:29, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::Noo.. "view source" is just for protected pages. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:38, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::Then you're giving conflicting reports here. If you go to [[H*R.com updates 2005]], which is protected from being moved but not from being edited, do you see "edit" or "view source"? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:43, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::I see "View Source" on the Main Page, but I do see "Edit" on the Updates page. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:44, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::::On pages protected from editing, I see "view source". On pages protected from moves, the "move" tag is missing. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:58, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::::Good. That's how it should be. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:05, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, my problem with the Main Page was that there was no visible way for me to edit the What's New section. I couldn't see any indication that I had edit access to that page at all, until Dot Com pointed me to the template. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:44, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::That's intentional. We tried having a link to edit the what's new section, but it just got repeatedly vandalized. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:05, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::::Okay, then - where do I go to find the edit links for the individual templates, in case I find something to edit in the future? - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 21:21, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::::The template to edit the ''What's new?'' section on the main page is found at the bottom of the list of '''Templates used on this page:''' when you edit it. But please, it's not for general pruning. Only for actualy updates of the site. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:28, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::::::Also, KieferSkunk, the template you use is the one [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:whatsnew&diff=193665&oldid=193214 you used before], if that helps. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:48, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::::::Figured that. :) I meant in a general sense, how do I get to the templates without knowing the direct link. That helps. Thanks. :) - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 22:23, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::Plus a shortcut I always use, just click 'view source' on the main page, and below the source code box there should be links to all the Templates for that page. Same goes for if you edit a page, they're all right below the 'Save Page', 'Show Preview' buttons. That's what they're there for, so you can easily edit the templates on a page, without having to go searching all over for them. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:49, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::::::::Yeah, I mentioned that. It works well. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:51, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::Oh whups, my bad. Guess I should have carefully read the thread first. I tend to skim when it gets this long. Yea, Lapper already covered it. Nothing wrong with emphasis though... :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:22, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

== Official Forum ==

Hello. I need help getting on the Official Forum. Okay, here's the deal: I activated my account, I got the email, I sent out the email I needed to send out, and I still can't log in. What do I do now? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 19:46, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

:I just replied to you on your talk page. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:51, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

== What Happened? ==

Why was the Wiki down for a little bit?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 03:29, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

:We had some problems with a [[Wikipedia:Denial-of-service attack|denial-of-service attack]]. Our quick-thinking servermaster suspended our account as a countermeasure.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:39, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

What happened '''this ''' time? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 05:27, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:I believe it was another DOS attack... It happened last time this bot attacked. It's not very fun, is it? Takes a serious chunk outta my day... I spend, like, 75% or more of my time on the wiki. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Boy is that sad. I spend about 99% of ''my'' time on the wiki. And the 1% is for eating. But I don't think bots can manage to shut down the entire wiki. Odd. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:50, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

== Editing glitch ==

Today I was going on the wiki, but I wasn't signed in. Now, I want to edit something, but it said I had to log in to do that! What in Pete Sanders is going on here? [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

We had the ultimant troll attack. The troll used tons of IPs, so we had to block annony edits. We should be able to allow annony edits soon. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:55, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:If you'd like to read more on this subject, you might want to check out [[HRWiki:Da Basement#Log in to edit]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

''{standing with mouth hanging open}'' Uhh... how the hell did somebody do that? That's crazy! It seems like a megatroll attacked! I'm juist kinda at a loss for for words right now. That really is quite the troll we're dealin' with here. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:55, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

EDIT: That's Pete Sampras, not Pete Sanders. And you spelled ultimate wrong. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:56, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:Darklinkskywalker, please don't post simply to point out spelling errors of other users. I'm not even going to tell anyone that you might have spelled "just" incorrectly. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 16:49, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, we are dealing with quite the troll right now. Is it that same "----- stole my cow" person/bot, or an entirely new troll? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:52, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:::What motivates a troll? One motivation is '''Attention Seeking'''. Lately, these types of trolls have been using profanity. They love it when other users talk about their actions. Therefore, I suggest we halt discussing this issue on the Main Page Talk Page. Thank you. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 16:58, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

== H*R down? ==

Is this just me, or is the H*R website down? --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 18:02, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:It's not just you. It seems down on my end too. I wonder why...? Perhaps they're adding something new and amazing...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Same, but I wasn't sure if I should mention it or not. Anybody have any clue? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:05, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:::We may have caught the site in the small period of downtime required to update the site. I can't wait to see if it's a new 'toon or something. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::::It is just slow with me. If you use dial up, try waiting longer. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:11, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::'Tis working again. At least, for me. And no new toons or anything. :-( {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:17, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Still down for me. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 18:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::It's working for me, but just a lttle slow.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 18:35, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::It's down again for me. It's the Cannot Find Server page, and it's not a flash cartoon (I just wanted to check). Maybe it is something that they're putting up, but it's huge, so they had to take it down, like the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer|PQ Movie Trailer]]. Just a guess. Or it could be a problem with the new sbemail. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 21:42, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Never mind. It's up again, just slow. It keeps saying "one item remaining". -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 21:43, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::I know, it's '''REALLY''' slow. I think they're either trying to put a a big file like you said, or just lots 'o peps are trying to get on.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 21:48, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

:Okay, I got the Strong Bad Email page loaded, and there are no links to any emails at all. It's just blank (although there is a more button). Something is definately going on. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 21:52, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::Now I can't get on at all. It was trying to load Main Page 7 for over 15 minutes. Something '''''is''''' going on. No doubt about it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 22:06, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I just got to the Sbemail page really quick and nothings new. Just a little bit ago I had Bubsty's problem. Hmmm..--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 22:11, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Back up for me. And running at normal speed! Nothin' new, apparently.-[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 22:37, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::just kidding. It's back down again. I'm just going to check back tomorrow. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 22:51, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Back again. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:52, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Not working for me still. I sent an e-mail to TBC asking what was going on. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:53, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:It's down again. {{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 01:01, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
It's still up, just ''rrll rrll'' slow. I just downloaded [[Cool Things]], and it took about 7 minutes to download, but it did finish. Whenever a server is that slow, some requests time out - it's not a case of the server going up or coming down, rather just the luck of the draw whether it gets to you before the ISP gives up. The symptoms are (to my eye) consistent with a server under heavy load - though why would the load to homestarrunner.com increase so dramatically, and without an update, too? Maybe the same people who were attacking us are now attacking them? (NB: keep in mind this is speculation) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:04, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:This isnt good, I cant goof off and watch emails while writing my social studies essay!--{{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 01:08, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:Aw... poor Burger King. But yeah, it ''is'' working now, just ''real,'' '''''real''''' slow. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:12, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Y'know, it could just be that their webhost is having trouble today, too. :P - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 02:12, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
::Brilliant, now the wiki is acting really slow too. This happening to anyone else? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:35, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Its happening to me too Bubsty, your not alone. --{{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 02:41, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
::::GAH!! It's happening again! It took about 5 minutes for me to be able to edit this page! Wiki... too... slow! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:04, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::It's probably that NSMC troll at the fanstuff wiki again.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 02:14, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== HELP!!! ==
The Fanstuff Wiki is being attacked by the same guys that attacked this place a few days ago. HELP!!! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:39, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm on it man. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:51, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
::For as long as I can..--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 03:01, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I got a hold of Tom and he suspended anonymous editing and new user registration. Next time, please be calm and don't flood Tom or Recent Changes with all-caps alerts after other users have tried to notify. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:35, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:Yes guys, please. One message here and/or on Tom's talk page was enough. (which I had made) - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Slowdown ==
Is it just me, or is the wiki server going ''really'' slow? Like, almost too slow to do anything? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:08, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:It's pretty slow for me too right now. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:25, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hey... it ''just'' returned to normal... weird. Hope it stays like this. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:27, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:::And now it's back to slow... Wonder what's up with it? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::"Well, I found the problem. Looks like somebody tried to cram-a-lam a Swiss Cake Roll into the disk drive." {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:31, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::No, seriously, it's happenin to me too. It takes like, 5 minutes just to edit my page. Boy the wiki is havin problems. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:49, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Yeah i've had to wait about 10 mins to move from the [[HRWiki:Da_Basement#Episode_V._The_DoS_strikes_back.3F|discussion i was going to start]] to this place. It seems to me we're being targeted by a DoS attack as well. Can anyone confirm this? My guess is that they're using the [[Special:Recentchanges|Database features]] that are still available to anonymous users to slow things down by overburdening the system with queries. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:59, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::I believe that the troll is currently targeting the fanstuff wiki. Even though he's blocked the constant accessing of pages, even though the vandalism is failing, is causing slowdown. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 02:24, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
It's not slow for me anymore. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 02:33, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:Never mind, it's slow again. Ugh this is getting me mad. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 02:38, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::In a bizarre plot twist, even the Big Wiki seems to be slow for me. Can the Wikian Bird Flu Pandemic be upon us? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:04, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Odd, wikipedia isn't slow to me. But this place... fanstuff seems slow too. Brilliant. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:57, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Why did you jkust repeat what you said in a previous topic. The Wiki and FW are fine for me, ''just H*R.'' [[User:Count X|Count X]]

== H*R Down... again. ==
I tried playing PQ, and it gave me the <s>deuce</s> Cannot access crap. [[User:Count X|Count X]]
:Odd... Peasant's Quest, and everything else, is runnin' just fine for me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::And how long ago was it when you were on?[[User:Count X|Count X]]
:::I'd say not but a minute after you posted your message. I always like to check such, if I can. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I was playin peasants quest today in 6th period and it was working fine. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:45, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

== Guided Tour ==

Wikicities has a feature that lets people [http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/Wikicities:Wikicities_tour/List_of_wikis_in_this_tour tour different wikis] to get to know their feel and the way that wikis in general work. It might be helpful to new users if we added a tour to the [[HRWiki:Introduction|Introduction]] pages. It could help show people pages like how a page for a toon looks, how a gallery page looks (eg. [[Characters]]), [[STUFF]], etc. It would be a good way to show new users all the different types of pages on the wiki and help get them into it faster. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 02:42, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:From what I can tell, it's just a series of subpages that uses [http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/Template:Wikicities_tour a template] to include certain pages and has a "next" type button. If you want to try it out, go for it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:: I made the tour. It can be found [[HRWiki:HRWiki tour|Here]]. I just need to figure out where to put it. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 14:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:That was a very enjoyable tour. Good work, AtionSong. :) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:42, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Speaking of tours, I think we ought to have a tour bus stop on the [http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?TourBus Meatball Wiki TourBus system]. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:14, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

: Why? It relates nothing at all to the wiki, and it will not help new members on the site with anything. Unless there's something that I'm mising here. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 18:50, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

::It looks like a tour of all possible wiki's. It helps the wiki by giving it exposure to people who have never heard of it before. Plus, meatballs are yummy (unless you don't eat meat). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:29, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

== Merge Crazy ==
Don't you think we're going a little crazy with merging things like random food items and companies and such? Are small pages so bad? I'm fine with having stuff from one general location merged, such as radio stations from [[radio]] and made up animals from [[animal]], and even [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters]] simply because there's so many that they're almost an inside joke, but I sort of liked all those various food, company, etc pages lying around. Although there are some drawbacks, they're easier to link to and distinguish on seperate pages. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 04:23, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Food_Still_In_Peel_or_Package&diff=prev&oldid=204850 Yes] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Wood-davers&diff=prev&oldid=204862 yes]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:32, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
::And don't forget [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:The_Stick&diff=204834&oldid=204818 this]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:38, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I sencond that! I was even thinking about making links to each of the items in the Minor Companies page but I couldn't remember how. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:43, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Hmm... Well I would have appreciated some [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3AMinor_Companies&diff=204161&oldid=204158 feedback at the time of the happening], instead of now, once it's all done. Everybody that's contributed to this thread was also at [[Talk:Minor Companies|the discussion for the catalyst]] yet nobody voiced this level of concern at that time. I suppose it was a somewhat hasty decision to merge them though. It could be reverted again, but I think some standards are desperately needed. At the very least, the redirects are all still there. But if the general feeling is to keep them seperate, then I guess I'll go back and split 'em up again. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:52, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I hear ya, T-bird. Those articles have been merged yet [[Hamburger Shampoo]] remains intact. To reiterate what Leith just said: '''some standards are desperately needed'''. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 07:00, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Such is the beauty of a wiki: anything changed can easily be changed back, eh? It's easier to see it in retrospect, however, and I think what we did might be okay, although the bit about standards is very true. But we needn't go absolutely nuts with it. Eventually, everything will be on one superhuge page and internal linking will be nearly dead. Click here for The Entire Content of H*R, eh? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I bet a lot of people would have liked to give input but (1) this is a holiday week, and (2) the time between the proposal and the implementation of the project was just a few hours. When someone proposes major changes like this, no action should be taken for ''days'', not hours. And here in the case of the merged pages, after the first page was done, there should have been time to give feedback to consider whether we wanted to make even more sweeping changes. As a comparison, consider that nearly all STUFF items stay open for at least four days, ususally a week. The more controversial ones stay open two weeks. And when we were deciding whether to implement the current STUFF system, the discussion went on for more than a ''month''. So I ask you, what's the rush? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:33, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I think it was too hasty. For one, I was busy with the Fanstuff Wiki's problems at the time. Anyway, I personally think that things should be merged into one page when they all follow the same theme. Things such as [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters]], [[Virus Character Variations]] and [[Made Up Strong Bad Animals]] are good merges. But things like stuff in [[Minor Foods]]... some of those pages had plenty of content. The only thing that connects stuff like Staple Sauce and Super Mud is that they are food and that only appeared once. Is just because something only appeared once or twice mean it has to share space with all the others that have similar atributes? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:20, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Just in case it is on anyone's mind, I just wanted to state for the record that there is absolutely no technical reason for having things in one page. Some like to toss around words like "bandwidth" and "space constraints" sometimes, but I want to make very clear that these things should never be a deciding factor when it comes to merging pages.
::::::I happen to have no problem at all with smaller-type articles and have never really liked the longer type pages that group things. I mean, we clearly don't need an article for each individual [[Floppy Disk Container]] or [[Halloween Costumes|Halloween Costume]], but if a page has even a little good content (a few sentences) and can be linked to from at least one article, then our category system should be taking care of the grouping.
::::::I could go on for a bit about how I don't like it when people talk about other small articles when a separate article is being discussed for deletion or merging, but I don't think this is the time or place for that.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:09, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I will now supply an alphabetical list of all articles that I thought shouldn't have been merged. This is just my opinion, so I'll just stick it out to see the response.
:::::* [[Minor Companies]]
:::::* [[Minor Foods]]
:::::* [[Other Character Variations]]
:::::* [[Places Strong Bad Made Up]]
:::::And that's all I can think of right now. I think the seperate characters/places/things of those articles could have their own page. Opinions? Agreements? Disagreements? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 00:26, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::I agree with you on all those, Joshua. Particularly the first three... Some of the ones on [[Places Strong Bad Made Up]] I like having there, but I don't like having "Place" there... Weird, yes? But it was just easy to link a quote when you're done talking to someone... Just put "Now I'm going to go... [[Place]]". 'Cept now it's a redirect thing. It's a dumb reason, yes, and shouldn't really be considered in the discussion. But it's the idea behind it that I really mean: these things link all over the place. Piping links and adding <nowiki>#</nowiki>s to the code isn't hard, but it's easier to just make a separate page. Anyway, that's all the disjointed thoughts I can pull out of my head right now. I'll think of more later. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::I agree, I agree. Let's just ease up on the merging peoples. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:50, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::In the hopes that Joshua's comment is not simply a comment but the start of a discussion about actually reverting some merges, I agree that Companies, Foods, and Places (including "Place") should be de-merged. With the character variations I'm not sure; did all of those have their own page before? I certainly don't think all of them should.
::::::To add to the discussion of the legitimacy of merging: no, bandwidth or space constraints are not valid reasons. What are? Well, the only real motivations I can think of would be an aesthetic aversion to "short" articles (which I don't share; if it's more than two sentences I say let it stay) '''AND''' the motivation of ease of access. When items are on the same page, two things happen: '''you see them''', even if you hadn't been looking for them, and it's easy to compare them. One drawback in the wiki format is that we have a lot of interesting pages that might never get noticed because no one clicks through to them. So if an article contains fairly important information but someone would be unlikely to seek it out by name, it might actually be an argument ''for'' merging. And in cases where the entries on the page are highly related, merging is good for comparisons: you can look at the [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig Costumes]] and see that exactly 5 are inspired by TV shows while 3 are inspired by movies and 2 by video games. There isn't much need, however, to compare Boardelectrix with Freshley's. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:44, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well, that's pretty much the job of lists, such as [[Places]] and [[Characters]]. To let you browse through various articles (with minimal information distracting or overwhelming you) so that you can find the one you want or see an interesting article that you hadn't considered looking for and read it. Also, many, but not all, of the "Other Character Variations" had pages before merging, and several minor variations that were just as big are sitting around with their own pages, seperated from the merged articles. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:49, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

== Translation ==

This has probably been asked before/been done, but has any of the wiki pages been dubbed in any other languages? If not, we could Babelfish them, or something. --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 12:48, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:Rule #1: 
<center>'''NEVER. USE. MACHINE. TRANSLATION.'''</center> 
:Unless you want our pages to sound like cutscenes in [[Stinkoman 20X6]]. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::Although I do believe that [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] himself is making a Homestar Runner Wiki site in Hebrew. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 14:58, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Actually, he's just making a Homestar Runner page on the Hebrew Wikipedia. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:: For example, if you take the first sentence on the [[Homestar Runner]] page, '''''Homestar Runner (middle name Michael, or possibly Hal) is the star of the show, but he probably doesn't realize it.''''', and translate it to German, you get '''''Homestar Läufer (mittlerer Name Michael oder vielleicht Hal) ist der Stern des Erscheinens, aber er vermutlich verwirklicht es nicht.'''''. But if you translate that same sentence back from German to English, it becomes '''''Homestar Runner (middle name Michael or perhaps Hal) is the star of the appearance, but he probably does not carry out it.''''' Done through the [http://www.dictionary.com Dictionary.com translator] -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 16:13, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Yeah, but you won't be making a game of translating German to English will you? Ich spekkin deutch, but I don't try to translate german into English. Also translating the wiki would make it more international. --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 16:27, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
::::But the cartoons themselves are in English, not other languages. I think that's the key bit. If they can understand the cartoons, they're likely to understand the wiki. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I thought about it several times. Technically speaking, I can translate almost everything on the site, exept for the transcripts. But as said, the toons are in English, and if you can't get the toons, don't try to get the wiki. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:00, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

:Heh, I've always had it in the back of my mind as a project, ever since the move to MediaWiki. I'd love to be a part of helping introduce non-English speaking people to Homestar Runner, but the big problem is that the toons themselves are in English.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:12, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

::Haha, I wonder if [[TBC]] would let us dub 'em. I could see it now...

'''Asilo Cstrella Alfil:''' Aiy Ninguna! Le Wrestleman! 
'''Fuerte Podrido:''' Espíritu Excremento...

(That coming from a guy who doesn't speak Spanish at all, and just used a translation site) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:44, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, it seems to me that if you can't dub the cartoons, it'll be somewhat useless to transcribe them, as it's hard to read along a toon with a transcript. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:47, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

I have with me the first draft of the Hebrew translated [[First Time Here?]] that I made while I was bored in civil class. Want to see it? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:56, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

:Sure.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 04:58, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

::After school. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:01, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I'd be able to translate stuff into Swedish... I can speak that. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:52, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Oh, this is funny. Using the computer, I translated "Homestar Runner is like, the coolest thing in the world. It is not even funny how cool he is," into French. It came out: "Le coureur de Homestar est comme, la chose la plus fraîche au monde. Il n'est pas même drôle comme il frais est." Then, translating that back to English, it came out as "The runner of Homestar is like, the freshest thing in the world. It is not even funny as it fresh is." I thought that was just hilarious. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:56, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Just for fun, I wondered what would happen if you tried to translate a simple sentance using that thing back and forth, how long it would take until it finally gave you same result over and over again. This is how far it went:

'''ENGLISH:''' Ah, the joys of translating back and forth using a computer. 
'''GERMAN:''' Amperestunde, die Freuden am Übersetzen einen Computer hin und her verwendend. 
'''ENGLISH:''' Ampere-hour, the joys in translating a computer back and forth using. 
'''GERMAN:''' Amperestunde, die Freuden, wenn ein hin und her verwendender Computer übersetzt wird. 
'''ENGLISH:''' Ampere-hour, the joys, if a back and forth using computer is translated. 
'''GERMAN:''' Amperestunde, die Freuden, wenn ein verwendender hin- und hercomputer übersetzt wird. 
'''ENGLISH:''' Ampere-hour, the joys, if a using and computer are translated. 
'''GERMAN:''' Amperestunde, die Freuden, wenn ein Verwenden und ein Computer übersetzt werden. 
'''ENGLISH:''' Ampere-hour, the joys, if using and a computer are translated. 

Just out of curiosity, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]], is the final result unreadable in German too? (In a completely unrelated observance, it seemed to me as though the Wiki was really slow today, with only around 400 edits in total. Guess it slows down for the big T, eh)? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 07:40, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Ok, here it is:

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! English !! Hebrish!! Hebrew
|-
| CLAPPER LOADER: Homestarrunner dot com welcome speech, Take 1.
| Neum brukhim habaim shel Homestar Runner nekuda com, take rishon.
| נאום ברוכים הבאים של הומסטאר ראנר נקודה קום, טייק ראשון.
|-
| CHERRY GREG: Action!
| Action!
| אקשן!
|-
| HOMESTAR RUNNER: Oh, hello! Welcome to Homestarrunner.net.
| Oh, shalom! Brukhim habaim leHomestar Runner nekuda net.
| או, שלום! ברוכים הבאים להומסטאר ראנר נקודה נט.
|-
| CHERRY GREG: It's "dot com".
| Ze "nekuda com".
| זה "נקודה קום".
|-
| HOMESTAR RUNNER: Oh, right. Homestarrunner dot net. "Its dot com!"
| Oh, nakhon. Homestar Runner nekuda net. "Ze nekuda com!"
| או, נכון. הומסטאר ראנר נקודה נט. "זה נקודה קום!"
|-
| CHERRY GREG: Cut!
| Cut!
| קאט!
|}
:{{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:22, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

For the heck of it... in spanish!
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! English !! Spanish
|-
| CLAPPER LOADER: Homestarrunner dot com welcome speech, Take 1.
| Cargador de la chapaleta: Discurso de bienvendia para Homestarrunner punto com, toma 1.
|-
| CHERRY GREG: Action!
| Greg de la cereza: ¡Acción!
|-
| HOMESTAR RUNNER: Oh, hello! Welcome to Homestarrunner.net.
| Homestar Runner: ¡Oh, hola! Bienvenidos a Homestarrunner punto net.
|-
| CHERRY GREG: It's "dot com".
| Es "punto com".
|-
| HOMESTAR RUNNER: Oh, right. Homestarrunner dot net. "Its dot com!"
| Oh, sí. Homestarrunner punto net, "es punto com."
|-
| CHERRY GREG: Cut!
| ¡Corte!
|}
:Wow. This looks strange to me (some of the words I couldn't remember well, so I used the translation software and it gave me answers in a different dialect from mine). I decided not to translate Homestar Runner, a lot of shows translated into spanish do that. I didn't even try to tranlsate his name... (ok I ran it through the translation software but ick!) Oh man, if any of you have heard american shows dubbed in spanish you'll notice that it's always ''the same voice actors for all of the shows!'' You get to recognize their voices pretty well (and they're so off from what the original voices sound like). I can picture it now... Strongbad having this droopy, dull sounding voice! Wow. Oh! yeah and the funniest thing would be the segment in spanish! You'd probably have to translate that back to english:
::'''Homestar Runner''': ''Welcome to Homestarrunner.com. Do you know Michael? Yes! we are very good friends— He is... ''
::'''Greg de la cereza''': ''¡Español!''
:Oh man! Dubbing is so weird. Oh yes and if you wanna know, the translation for ''Homestar Runner'' would be something like: ''Corredor de la casa estrella.'' Which word for word is: ''Runner of the house star'' (starhouse). Enjoy! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:54, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
:Also notice that the line I quoted above actually has Homestar Saying more than what is written in the transcript (he's voiced over by Cherry Greg). It's bothered me for a while, but I myself had a hard time making it out, but I beleive I can now fix that with some time, patience, and those looping soundclips that have proved every so useful (I gotta start making them myself.) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:01, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

And just for fun: 
'''English:''' All right, that's it! We need to get you some serious clown care, man! 
'''Dutch:''' ''Al recht, dat het! Wij moeten u krijgen wat ernstige clownzorg, mens!'' 
'''Back to English:''' Already right, which it! We must get you what serious clownzorg, people! 
{{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:05, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

I think I would literally burst if I didn't get this out of my systen. That said, it's not any translation we would need.
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! English !! 1337
|-
| CLAPPER LOADER: Homestarrunner dot com welcome speech, Take 1.
| <nowiki>(14993|2 104|)3|2: |-|0|\/|354|2|2|_||\||\|3|2 |)07 (0|\/| \/\/31(0|\/|3 5933(|-|, 74|<3 0|\|3.</nowiki>
|-
| CHERRY GREG: Action!
| <nowiki>(|-|3|2|2`/ 6|236: 4(710|\|!</nowiki>
|-
| HOMESTAR RUNNER: Oh, hello! Welcome to Homestarrunner.net.
| <nowiki>|-|0|\/|354|2 |2|_||\||\|3|2: 0|-|, |-|3110! \/\/31(0|\/|3 70 |-|0|\/|354|2|2|_||\||\|3|2.|\|37.</nowiki>
|-
| CHERRY GREG: It's "dot com".
| <nowiki>(|-|3|2|2`/ 6|236: 17'5 "|)07 (0|\/|".</nowiki>
|-
| HOMESTAR RUNNER: Oh, right. Homestarrunner dot net. "Its dot com!"
| <nowiki>|-|0|\/|354|2 |2|_||\||\|3|2: 0|-|, |216|-|7. |-|0|\/|354|2|2|_||\||\|3|2.|\|37. "17'5 |)07 (0|\/|!".</nowiki>
|-
| CHERRY GREG: Cut!
| <nowiki>(|-|3|2|2`/ 6|236: (|_|7!</nowiki>
|}

— {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:16, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== NSMC is at it again ==

I know why the server is slow this time. This is from the IRC channel from about an hour ago.

<blockquote>
NSMS (n=NSMC@adsl-96-212-36-203.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) has joined #hrwiki [7 users] 
<NSMC> haldo 
NSMS (n=NSMC@adsl-96-212-36-203.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) has quit IRC (Client Quit)[6 users]
</blockquote>

I hope next time we can pick that stuff up and lock the detabase or something. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:08, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:Perhaps we shouldn't jump to any conclusions until we're sure of two things: first, that this is the actual NSMC troll, and not an impersonator, as well as that he is currently affecting the [http://beta.fellowsites.org Fellowsites] server. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:55, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

EDIT CONFLICT: AH-HA! We may have just discovered the vandal's ISP! HRWiki +1, NSMC -1. We're one step closer to finding out his real ip address and getting anony editing turned back on. (Ar least I hope we are.) {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}}

::Well, here's the chronollogy of things: (Talking in UTC time): On 10:21 he logged on, haldo and logged off in a metter of exactly 20 seconds. On about 11:20 when I made the transcript I was experiencing the first slowness, exactly one hour after. If this is not one frigging coincidence, I don't know what is. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:03, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Uh. And if my post say "about an hour ago" and it's not, it's because it took me so much time to post this thing. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:05, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Is this why I woke up and had 4,868 emails in my inbox this morning? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Yep. Some users got them, some didn't. If you are a one of those who were spammed, please post your name here! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::I had the same thing happen, except not as bad. I'm still counting and deleting duplicates. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 17:26, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Spammed - completely filled up my webspace, with quota warnings. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:27, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Yeah... I had about 600 emails from a hrwiki admon... {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 17:30, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

'''4 EDIT CONFLICTS LATER:''' Well, whoever that person is, he's just gone from being merely annoying to outright breaking the law. My email box and webspace were COMPLETELY full this morning due to the flood of "password reminder" emails I just got overnight (Eudora is still downloading them). This crap really ain't funny. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:27, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Some info: I used [http://www.dnsstuff.com dnsstuff.com] to look up a couple of the IP addresses, and they're based in other countries. Here's the list I came up with:

* 139.80.38.132 = grant.design.otago.ac.nz (New Zealand)
* 210.100.138.124 = Resolves to South Korea, but I can't get a specific answer
* 211.115.69.146 = Resolves to South Korea, but I can't get a specific answer
* 211.249.118.252 = Resolves to South Korea, but I can't get a specific answer
* 212.138.64.174 = cache4-2.jed.isu.net.sa (Saudi Arabia)

There were plenty more IPs that showed up in the massive email spam. Evidently, NSMC can either spoof a lot of IPs, or he has rootkits installed all over the world. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:44, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:Look at the log from IRC. Could this be his real IP? Could he be that careless? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:48, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

::It's possible, but unlikely - the guy could get on the IRC from virtually anywhere. I've dealt with quite a few IRC-based DDOS attacks in my time. :P {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:50, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:::So... What am I supposed to do with all these emails in the meantime? Are they at all useful for foiling this guy? Did they really change my password? Anything? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::If anything holds true, your password is only changed if you sign in using that new password. So don't, and you should be fine. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:03, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Good-good. So I can start deleting 'em? Or d'you want me to sort through them for IPs? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::::Heh. If you want to, sure. Although I doubt we'll be finding out his real IP any time soon. On the other hand, any new ones we find could be blocked beforehand. Hmmmm... — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:07, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::I'm sure it isn't required to search for IP addresses. If we are... then i'm in big doo-doo. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 18:09, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

'''Edit conflict''' Well, now I'm *relieved* about my only getting 472 password reminders. Heh, *only* 472. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:11, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::Yeah, I'm not about to read through '''4,868''' emails. I'll just offer the one I opened to tell my friend about it. It's a heck of a thing to wake up and find, lemme tell ya. Anyways, the address is 211.249.118.252. Hope that'll help, even a little. Now then... A-deleting I will go. This is gonna take a while... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::::::::Awwww man, I guess I wasn't spam worthy... Oh well. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::You want some of mine? I have plenty to spare. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::I got about twenty of 'em. No biggie. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Do you think it's random? Or does anybody see a pattern? What if some user who registered two years ago and made one edit, got two jillion emails every two jillion seconds? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:32, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:I don't know... Random's my bet. But in other news, my email inbox is devoid of all spam now... That was a chore. .-. And one I don't fancy doing again. I bet I have a record, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I wish I'd read about this earlier. I just logged in to my email to find 447 password reminders. What really freaked me out about it was that some were from the Fanstuff Wiki, where I don't have an account (or at least, don't think I do). I found this IP address in the Fanstuff emails: 200.226.137.13, and this in the normal Wiki emails: 212.138.64.177. Could we temporarily disable password reminders, or has he/she/it stopped? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 19:34, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::We have to consider also what restrictions we're willing to live with for how long. You're proposing a situation in which you have to log in to edit and if you forget you're password... you're screwed? The block on new user registration has been up for some time now, and I'd like to emphasize that I '''don't''' consider it a liveable solution, and I hope even as a "temporary" measure it doesn't last long. Yes, people can e-mail Tom and ask, but that's not advertised and would turn shy users away.
:::It's beginning to sound like it would be ''impossible'' to ultimately find the real IP. We have to decide what we'll do then. Elitism is very un-wiki, and I hope we can find a way to avoid simply being a closed community of H*R experts displaying their knowledge for an excluded public. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:45, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Here here! I'm now more motivated to work on the [[HRWiki:Da_Basement#Suggestions|ideas]] I proposed. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:50, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::'''Edit Conflict''' My guess is I got 2853 emails, give or take a few. My ip's were mostly 200.226.137.13 and 200.226.137.11. But I got tons more (likely 48 distinct addresses, each sending exactly 61 emails -- save a couple who got 8 and 38). Gmail is awesome! Gmail is weird! ... Personally, I hope this person goofed and really logged in using his/her own IP address on the IRC. I don't see it being a far cry to ask one of the administrators of these proxies to check to see if they have connections from that IP address in their logs. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I recommend letting registered users who are already logged in change their passwords back. Because right now, I won't be able to log back in (I don't know which password is right, I keep getting more!) -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 21:09, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I had no problem resetting my password back to my normal one. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:10, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Oh, you're right. I got it. Never mind. I guess I'm pretty lucky, anyway. Only '''61''' emails. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 21:12, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::'''Edit Conflict x2''' No, no, no. Remember what Lapper said:
::::::<blockquote>If anything holds true, your password is only changed if you sign in using that new password. So don't, and you should be fine. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:03, 28 November 2005 (UTC)</blockquote>
:::::As long as you use your original password you'll be able to log in just fine, just don't use any of the passwords sent to you. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:13, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:::It's good to know that others are having the same problem as I, but I "only" got 21 "reminders". the IPs were as follows:
::::211.115.69.146 (x15) – Unresolved (South Korea)
::::139.80.38.132 – grant.design.otago.ac.nz (New Zealand)
::::210.100.138.124 – Unresolved (South Korea)
::::212.138.64.176 (x2) – cache6-2.jed.isu.net.sa (Saudi Arabia)
::::202.128.231.209 – Unresolved (Hong Kong)
::::211.249.118.252 – Unresolved (South Korea)
:::[[User:Gus|Gus]] 23:26, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I'd go through my 279 password reminder emails and get all the IPs out of them but there wouldn't be anything there that isn't already in the server logs, right? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:31, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::::5:30: Bubsty notices that fanstuff is under attack, looks at main page to see what everyones talking about. See's a lot of people got spam in their e-mail. Checks his e-mail. See's about 10,000 password reminders. Brilliant. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:30, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:I actually only got 19 emails, not a lot to look through, but no, I don't think there would be anything new in there that wouldn't be listed already. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:00, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Um... I have a problem. I can't delete any of the spam. HELP! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:16, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Can't delete the spam? Why not? What program are you using? If you are able to join the IRC channel I am there now and I can help you. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::I checked my email. There wasn't a singal new email. I just don't know what's wrong. Oh, and if Tom can here me, I say there should be no new user. Never, ever, plever, JEVER, JIBNEY! JHKJAJSKAJKH. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 02:29, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
== Password Problem ==

Okay. Here's my problem. I got '''324 emails''' some from fanstuff, some from here and they all say that I clicked the 'email me a new password' button, when I haven't got on the wiki all day! I don't thing the IP Adress is even right. I'm still logged in, but that's because I haven't logged out yet. Somebody help.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 23:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Psst: Bkmlb: Read the previous conversation. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 23:20, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Fall Float Parade

H*R 700 — Fri, 25 Nov 2005 16:27:33 GMT

H*R 700: /* Tinfoil or Pennzoil? */

==Easter Eggs==
I call the Easter Eggs. You're allowed to do that, right? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:I'll race you for 'em. And I can protect the page. :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:26, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::I'd rather not, but it doesn't seem like it's going to load, anyway. First one to fall asleep loses the eggs! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Not Loading==
It isnt loading for me. :( [[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|SBadiaRula]]

:Same here. The flash file is giving me a 404. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 01:31, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::It's not loading for anyone, yet. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:31, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::: How'd you get the run time? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:32, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::: It's listed on the Toons page. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 01:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Jeez, three edit conflicts just to edit this page. But anyway, me neither. Dang.{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::'''THERE ISN'T A FLASH FILE! [[User:Seek Bar]]

:::::it's not loading ''because'' there isn't a flash file. The page is looking for the file that doesn't exist. That's why there's a hold up.[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:35, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Well, I think we've reached the limit of making a page there's no flash file for. Still, we got pretty far. :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:36, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::How do we know that Z and Marzy are hosting it? That Pom Pom's on the "telebision"? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::::::On the toons menu.[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::And the only reason I refered to her as "Marzy" is because that's what they refered to her as in the summary. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:41, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::All the same, her correct name is "Marzipan." {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:43, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

And now we wait. Ah, "refresh", how we love thee.[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:44, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:What day is American Thanksgiving anyways? It's a month past for us Canadians. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:44, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::Always the 3rd Thursday in November. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh. Then this one's... Retroactive? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:46, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:::: TBC could be going outta town. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::: ITS WORKING {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Not for me. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:49, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Umm, no, actually, it's the ''fourth'' Thursday in November; i.e., in three days. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:48, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Where's the transcript coming from? The flash file's still not up for me! [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:55, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Btw Kookyman, I beat you. :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:56, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::How'd you get it to load?????[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

This should clear things up... the regular is 'floatparade' and the swf is 'fallparade'. Probably lotsaya know this by now, but it does need to be officially announced. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 02:24, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

==what the?==
this toon isn't working for me! and i'm really eager to see it! it just comes up as white stu~ff![[User:Jibney|Jibney]]
:FYI for those who are not in the know, the toon can be access from the following '''[http://www.homestarrunner.com/fallparade.swf Flash file]'''. Enjoy! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:01, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:Visit the flash file. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

thanks that was hilarious![[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 02:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== 'Nother Page ==

For all the Halloween cartoons, we make an extra page to show all the costumes in a gallery with discriptions. I think we should do that for the floats in the parade, sort of like a list for reference. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 02:58, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:I don't think that'll be needed, unless these floats become a reoccuring theme. (Which I doubt.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:00, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::'''EDIT CONFLICT''' Second. We list the Halloween costumes coz they have further information, based on other characters and all that. Whatever there is to say about the floats, I think we can put in the transcript. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Tinfoil or Pennzoil? ==

I really don't think the Homsars are saying 'Sing a song of tinfoil'- to me, it sounds much more like 'Pennzoil'. Anyone else hear that?
:I had no idea what they were saying at first, with the overlap effect. But under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen ears, and the transcript updating, I was able to pick out 'tinfoil'. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Yeah, I heard Penzoil. There's definetly a "zoil" sound at the end of their line. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
:Yup, it's penzoil. Ima gonna change it now. -[[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|SBadiaRula]]
::I always heard penzoil.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 13:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::It's definitely tinfoil. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
I've listened to it five times at increasing volume. It's penzoil! [[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|SBadiaRula]]
:Definetly penzoil

:SupremeRulerOfSBadia, please do not change it until an agreement is made. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:11, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

'm srry. I just know what I heard, and I can't help changeing it. [[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|SBadiaRula]]

What the crap is Pennzoil? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:38, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:[http://www.pennzoil.com Pennzoil] is an American motor-oil company that sponsors races, sporting events and other stuff. They're right up there with Castrol and Quaker State. (I had listed this in RWR before someone reverted the transcript back to "Tinfoil".) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:41, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Oh, and they are a major sponsor for Macy's T-Day Parades, too. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:42, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:It's an [http://www.pennzoil.com oil] for your engine. Apparently it's not in Isreal.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 17:40, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Take a [http://media.putfile.com/Fall-Float-Homsar-Quote listen] for yourself.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 20:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Listening to it again, it is definitely a bit indistinct because of the doubling, but I think the telltale sign that it's "Pennzoil" is that the first syllable in the word is a short "e", not a short "i". So you'd either have "ten-foil", "ten-zoil", "ten-soil", "pen-soil", or "pen-zoil" (and the last one properly translates to the Pennzoil brand name, as there is no English word "penzoil", and Homsar doesn't have a history of making up words). {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:27, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:How odd... I was about to say the same thing, but backwards. Because I surely hear a short "i" sound. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Try these media clips: [[Media:LetsSingASong.ogg|Homsar's quote (normal)]] and [[Media:LetsSingASong-Fast.ogg|(150% normal speed)]] - the latter clip might make that last word a bit clearer. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::After a review of these clips, particularly the second, I have reevaluated my position. It is Pennzoil, as reluctant as I am to admit. Also, I'd like to say that Homsar is rather creepy all sped up like that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:Hey guys, the KOT quote had a clip made so that it could be played over and over again (I think that one's thanks to KieferSkunk), is there any way we could have such a clip for the Homesar Line uploaded? That would help so much! I was almost convinced it was Penzoil but I keep hearing something different each time it seems, so I want to hear it with a good set of earphones and several times in a row to be sure. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:42, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::I'm one step ahead of you, Stux. Look up. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:43, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Oh! I didn't even see them! I'm sorry! Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Wow, man! That 150% speed recording's a riot! I definitely do not hear an "f" sound to make tinfoil. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:50, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::'''Edit Conflict''' I think playing this on repeat 20 or 30 times gives you a pretty good idea of what it is and what it is not. I hear no "f", I hear a "p", and I hear an "e"; I hear no I, and we all agree on the oil part. :) I could've also just simply signed my vote and not typed any of this but it wouldn't be as fun now would it? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:59, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I can hear "Pennzoil" under the power of suggestion, but I can't hear "tinfoil" at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Here, I'll start a vote:

If you hear "tinfoil", add your name to this bullet list.
*{{User:The Chort/sig}}
*{{User:H*R 700/sig}}
*[[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 04:12, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
If you hear "Pennzoil", add your name here instead.
*{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}}
*{{User:bkmlb/sig}}
*So totally [[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|SBadiaRula]]
*Get better speakers -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
*[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*{{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}}
*--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:59, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
*— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]]
*{{User:Joshua/sig}} (Actually, I hear "Pennfoil". :P)
*[[User:Strongstarbadder|Strongstar badder]]
*[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
*{{User:Bubsty/sig}}
*[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*[[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]]
*[[User:Homsarroks|Homsarroks]]

:Uhhh...I think we have enough votes in "Pennzoil" area.-[[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|SBadiaRula]]

I think it's "sing a song of Pennzoil" because it might be a pun on a) Pennzoil and its parade-sponsoring ways, and b) that song, Sing a Song of Sixpence. You know, like "Let's sing a song of [Six]pennz-oil!" --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 23:41, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:None the richer? ;) Could'nt help it. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:25, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, the Quote of the Week settled that debate. It's Pennzoil. I'll remove the footnote now. [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 16:07, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

:Woa, it's like [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] read our minds or something! Happy Thanksgiving all! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:25, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
::Wow, with out that music in the backround, I ''can'' here Pennzoil. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 16:27, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

==It all comes down so I break it down==
The KOT quite discernibly says some syllable before "Break it down for me, fellas," but I can't for the life of me figure out what it is. Anybody? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:56, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:"So"?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::''It'' refers to the song, a break-down is a variation or style of the music that they are playing. A common break-down is all the instruments dropping out except percussion. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:58, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I think AbdiViklas is asking for help identifying the syllable he hears before the phrase, not what the word "it" in the phrase stands for.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::That is correct. (And you're correct too, IRF; we owe modern turntabling to that section of the song and [[Wikipedia:DJ Grandmaster Flash|Grandmaster Flash's]] attempts to extend it.) I'm not convinced by "So," Tom; it kinda sounds like "court" to me, which makes no sense. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:24, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
I thought it sounded a lot like "A-break it down for me, fellas!" It's a possibility. - {{User:Super Sonic X/Sig}} 19:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Court could work. Like a king's court. "A sovereign's governing body, including the council of ministers and state advisers." [http://www.answers.com/topic/court][[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:50, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Yup. Excet "Break it down for me, fellas," is not in the Top 10 Things Most Likely To Be Heard In A Council Of Ministers And State Advisors (T1TMLTBHIACOMASA). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:07, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Here, I uploaded [[Media:Breakitdownforme.ogg|a sound clip]] of the KOT's line. That should help in figuring it out. Sounds like "court" or "pork" to me, but it also sounds like it could just be gibberish. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:41, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:Could be "What?" or "Oh" or "Go"... The possibilities are pretty much endless. It could be any number of things. Even listening to the .ogg, I can't tell. It's rather indistinct. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::About all I can get from it listening to it some more (even slowed it down to see if that would help) is that it sounds like it starts with "Tr". Nothing I can think of fits, though - I think it's just a random syllable at this point. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:53, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::: No idea here, but I don't hear a long "O" sound ("So," "Go," "Oh," or whatever.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:06, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::It could simply be a vocalization, a sort of a "hup!" I think given the lack of consensus it's okay to leave it as it is. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:58, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I just watched the toon again, and it souned pretty clear. I'm almost positive it's "A-break..." - {{User:Super Sonic X/Sig}}

:I hear, "A-break it down for me, fairlords," but my headphones stuck. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::Pretty sure that's "fellas". Having it be "A-break" is about the only thing I can think of that makes sense. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:31, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

== Jump Jive and Wail ==

Did anybody else think of the movie [[Wikipedia:Airplane%21|Airplane!]] when Marzi said, "for those of you don't speak Coach Z" refering to the lady that said, "Stewardess, I speak jive." Is this even close to being solid enough for ''real world reference'' status? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:07, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

: No, I just thought about speaking "The Cheat" [[User:No Parking|No Parking]] 15:00, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::It was a funny movie though. "Surely you can't be serious!" "I am serious, and please stop calling me Shirley." That's gold! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:36, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

== Post-its? ==

Are post-its a running gag, now? [[User:No Parking|No Parking]] 14:52, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:see [[Sticky_Notes]] {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:05, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== Killer Ballon ==

Could the run-away Marshie ballon be a referance to the 1998 Thanksgiving Parade when that Cat-in-the-Hat ballon knock over a street light at killed those people? Or is that too much of a stretch? [[User: The Pardack|The Pardack]]
:You know, I didn't even think of that, which is surprising because I lived in NY and was watching at that time, but I'd say so, especially since the cause was not enough people controlling the balloon. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
No one died, but someone was put in a coma for a while. But anyway, I think it could be a reference. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:I dunno, it strikes me as just a common parade balloon gag, not necessarily a reference to a particular incedent. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::I think The Pardack is right - I looked up news articles for that incident (which actually occurred in 1997), and the similarities between that and the Marshie balloon are pretty striking. (pun possibly intended.) I went ahead and added the fact - if you feel it should be STUFF'd, feel free. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:02, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't think it refers to anything in particular. I thought more of [[Wikipedia:The One Where Underdog Gets Away|the ''Friends'' episode where Underdog gets away]]. I went ahead and deleted the fact. If you feel it should be STUFF'd, feel free. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:25, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::You know, TBC have brains, and brains makes connections between related ideas and memories. So unless they have been living under a rock since their birth, something in particular popped up in their minds when they had the idea for this gag. If anything, the main reference here is the Zeppelin [[Wikipedia:Hindenburg_disaster|Hindenburg disaster]].--[[User:Vl-tone|Vl-tone]] 07:20, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Or for that matter, what about "[[Wikipedia:List of Seinfeld episodes#Season 6: 1994-1995|The Mom and Pop Store]]" epsiode of Seinfeld, When the Woody Woodpecker balloon gets blown? The simple fact is that it could be one particlar reference, but because there are so many candidates, it should be left at a reference to the general theme of a big balloon being a recipie for disaster. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Should we add this appearance to the Marshie filmography? [[Jazzdaddy77]]

== Wagon Fulla Pancakes? ==

Should the Wagon Fulla Pancakes be mentioned here? I mean, isn't it the Wagon under SB's float?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 19:18, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:It ''is'' mentioned. Check the inside references. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
Sorry. I wasn't clear enough. I meant in the cast list.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 19:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:It is listed suchly, by the way, in [[Senorial Day]] (though personally I don't think should be either there or here. [[montage]], yes, because it's personified so heavily, but not the other two. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:10, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::If we list something once, we list it everywhere. Or nowhere. The key is consistancy. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:07, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::You don't see a case for different treatment when an inanimate object is personified into a character (as in [[Characters#PseudoCharacters]])? In [[montage]], the Wagon ''is'', functionally, a character. Here it's functionally a wagon. (Hey, I just thought of something; an argument could be made against listing "[[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]]" in the Cast here, since it ''isn't'' full of pancakes!) I'd argue it should be in the cast list for [[montage]] but no others to date. (Of course if my argument is accepted it would entail other changes; e.g. Frank Benedetto should be taken out of the Cast list for [[garage sale]] and [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], since it's just a popcorn popper in those.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:55, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== About the lack of basement ==

Remarks notes that Bubs' Concession Stand doesn't appear to have a basement in the Homestar Egg. However, we already know that the basement is accessed by a lowering mechanism in the middle of the stand. This would put said mechamism about where Homestar's box is. I'm thinking it's possible (POSSIBLE) that Homestar's box is covering the basement elevator. What do you all think? [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 02:18, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
*I think you need to lay off the caffine. that is so absurd!--{{User:Benol/sig}} 02:20, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:I think that's included in the Remark? And I think Benol could avoid sounding insulting. (Although, yes, the whole basement issue ''is'' absurd; not just because it's unlikely to be a priority of TBC, but because if it is it raises certain absurdist images, such as Bubs fitting through a hole that size.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:21, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Bub's elevator is not in the smack center of his stand, it's in the ''front-center'' part which is not covered by the cardboard box.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:24, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::: There is no basement in the stand, thus no elevator. In [[geddup noise]], Bubs was doing the old "pretend I'm in an elevator" trick that mimes do.--[[User:Vl-tone|Vl-tone]] 06:36, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::What about when he walked out of the basement in [[Strong Bad Email?]] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I know. It's just a wierd situation, his basement. I'll wing a mail to TBC and see what they say. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::::Good luck. From my experience, TBC have better things to do than answer fanmails, and they might take a really long time to reply, if they do reply at all. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:22, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

*I think it's some kind of secret trapdoor, it seems mechanical so maybe it's hidden. Like, perhaps, the floor opens by remote. Also, unless the floor of Bubs' is usually dirt, it would seem that Strong Mad took the floor as well, so perhaps the trapdoor is concealed therein (and the ground opens up, too).[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
::If he took the floor, where'd he put it? You can quite clearly see that it's open on the bottom, as Strong Mad's feet are sticking out as he walks. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Blue Face?==
[[Image:qod 4 - bubs.PNG|frame|left]]
This may just be going over my head right now, but I don't understand the reference on Homestar's box during the easter egg. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 01:23, 23 Nov 2005 (PST)
:Maybe this will help. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:26, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Oh. Well I said that I was probably missing the obvious. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 02:21, 23 Nov 2005 (PST)
:::It actually took me a few minutes to work it out too... I thought at first it was just Homestar's usual inanity. Then, after about the third viewing, I go "Hey, Bubs is of the blue-headed persuasion, isn't he?" --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Happy T! ==

Having T in a number (The 4Tst Annual Fall Float Parade) has happened before: The book: ''This Book is Better Than 1st, 2nd, and Quite Possibly Even 3rd Base.'' is sold for $28.9T on [[Bookazon.com]]. I thought I might get your opintions on this before I rush in and put it in the Fun Facts. - [[User_talk:Sahm|talk]] [[User:Sahm|Sahm]] [[Special:Contributions/Sahm|ribs]] 05:50, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:No no, add it add it. Be '''bold''' with your editing! --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:59, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
::I think the use of T in the toon is closely related to [[Tooty-two]]. Go ahead and check it out. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:10, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I thought of Tooty-two instantly upon seeing it... Maybe these two instances could be listed on the Tooty-two page as "Not Quite Tooty-twos", or something like that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Definently. Perhaps even move the page to something more appropriate, not sure what though. At the very least, grouping it on the page for now would be fine. Maybe create a redirect page for "Replacing Numbers With T" or something, that'll lead you to the [[Tooty-two]] page. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:47, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

== KOTHS ==

Being a band geek, I have a question: Could I make a Fun Fact saying which band member is which (such as the KOT is Auxillary)? --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
:A bigger question is, why haven't you already done it? Be '''bold''' with your editing!!! Go ahead and add it!! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:25, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
::Oh, okay! I call it until tomorrow night (have to clean my room.)--[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
:::Can somebody else edit it for me into a Fun Fact? I have the KOT as Auxillary/Drum Major, Poopsmith as Percussion(Cymbals), Hornblower as Wind Instruments, and the Knight as Percussion(Drums).--[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

Talk:Fall Float Parade

H*R 700 — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:30:15 GMT

H*R 700: /* Tinfoil? */

==Easter Eggs==
I call the Easter Eggs. You're allowed to do that, right? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:I'll race you for 'em. And I can protect the page. :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:26, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::I'd rather not, but it doesn't seem like it's going to load, anyway. First one to fall asleep loses the eggs! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Not Loading==
It isnt loading for me. :( [[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|SBadiaRula]]

:Same here. The flash file is giving me a 404. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 01:31, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::It's not loading for anyone, yet. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:31, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::: How'd you get the run time? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:32, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::: It's listed on the Toons page. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 01:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Jeez, three edit conflicts just to edit this page. But anyway, me neither. Dang.{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::'''THERE ISN'T A FLASH FILE! [[User:Seek Bar]]

:::::it's not loading ''because'' there isn't a flash file. The page is looking for the file that doesn't exist. That's why there's a hold up.[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:35, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Well, I think we've reached the limit of making a page there's no flash file for. Still, we got pretty far. :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:36, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::How do we know that Z and Marzy are hosting it? That Pom Pom's on the "telebision"? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::::::On the toons menu.[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::And the only reason I refered to her as "Marzy" is because that's what they refered to her as in the summary. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:41, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::All the same, her correct name is "Marzipan." {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:43, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

And now we wait. Ah, "refresh", how we love thee.[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:44, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:What day is American Thanksgiving anyways? It's a month past for us Canadians. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:44, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::Always the 3rd Thursday in November. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh. Then this one's... Retroactive? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:46, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:::: TBC could be going outta town. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::: ITS WORKING {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Not for me. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:49, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Umm, no, actually, it's the ''fourth'' Thursday in November; i.e., in three days. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:48, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Where's the transcript coming from? The flash file's still not up for me! [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:55, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Btw Kookyman, I beat you. :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:56, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::How'd you get it to load?????[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 01:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

This should clear things up... the regular is 'floatparade' and the swf is 'fallparade'. Probably lotsaya know this by now, but it does need to be officially announced. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 02:24, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

==what the?==
this toon isn't working for me! and i'm really eager to see it! it just comes up as white stu~ff![[User:Jibney|Jibney]]
:FYI for those who are not in the know, the toon can be access from the following '''[http://www.homestarrunner.com/fallparade.swf Flash file]'''. Enjoy! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:01, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:Visit the flash file. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

thanks that was hilarious![[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 02:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== 'Nother Page ==

For all the Halloween cartoons, we make an extra page to show all the costumes in a gallery with discriptions. I think we should do that for the floats in the parade, sort of like a list for reference. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 02:58, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:I don't think that'll be needed, unless these floats become a reoccuring theme. (Which I doubt.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:00, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::'''EDIT CONFLICT''' Second. We list the Halloween costumes coz they have further information, based on other characters and all that. Whatever there is to say about the floats, I think we can put in the transcript. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Tinfoil? ==

I really don't think the Homsars are saying 'Sing a song of tinfoil'- to me, it sounds much more like 'Pennzoil'. Anyone else hear that?
:I had no idea what they were saying at first, with the overlap effect. But under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen ears, and the transcript updating, I was able to pick out 'tinfoil'. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Yeah, I heard Penzoil. There's definetly a "zoil" sound at the end of their line. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
:Yup, it's penzoil. Ima gonna change it now. -[[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|SBadiaRula]]
::I always heard penzoil.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 13:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::It's definitely tinfoil. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
I've listened to it five times at increasing volume. It's penzoil! [[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|SBadiaRula]]

:SupremeRulerOfSBadia, please do not change it until an agreement is made. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:11, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

'm srry. I just know what I heard, and I can't help changeing it. [[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|SBadiaRula]]

What the crap is Pennzoil? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:38, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:[http://www.pennzoil.com Pennzoil] is an American motor-oil company that sponsors races, sporting events and other stuff. They're right up there with Castrol and Quaker State. (I had listed this in RWR before someone reverted the transcript back to "Tinfoil".) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:41, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Oh, and they are a major sponsor for Macy's T-Day Parades, too. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:42, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:It's an [http://www.pennzoil.com oil] for your engine. Apparently it's not in Isreal.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 17:40, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Take a [http://media.putfile.com/Fall-Float-Homsar-Quote listen] for yourself.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 20:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Listening to it again, it is definitely a bit indistinct because of the doubling, but I think the telltale sign that it's "Pennzoil" is that the first syllable in the word is a short "e", not a short "i". So you'd either have "ten-foil", "ten-zoil", "ten-soil", "pen-soil", or "pen-zoil" (and the last one properly translates to the Pennzoil brand name, as there is no English word "penzoil", and Homsar doesn't have a history of making up words). {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:27, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:How odd... I was about to say the same thing, but backwards. Because I surely hear a short "i" sound. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Try these media clips: [[Media:LetsSingASong.ogg|Homsar's quote (normal)]] and [[Media:LetsSingASong-Fast.ogg|(150% normal speed)]] - the latter clip might make that last word a bit clearer. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::After a review of these clips, particularly the second, I have reevaluated my position. It is Pennzoil, as reluctant as I am to admit. Also, I'd like to say that Homsar is rather creepy all sped up like that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:Hey guys, the KOT quote had a clip made so that it could be played over and over again (I think that one's thanks to KieferSkunk), is there any way we could have such a clip for the Homesar Line uploaded? That would help so much! I was almost convinced it was Penzoil but I keep hearing something different each time it seems, so I want to hear it with a good set of earphones and several times in a row to be sure. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:42, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::I'm one step ahead of you, Stux. Look up. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:43, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Oh! I didn't even see them! I'm sorry! Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Wow, man! That 150% speed recording's a riot! I definitely do not hear an "f" sound to make tinfoil. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:50, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::'''Edit Conflict''' I think playing this on repeat 20 or 30 times gives you a pretty good idea of what it is and what it is not. I hear no "f", I hear a "p", and I hear an "e"; I hear no I, and we all agree on the oil part. :) I could've also just simply signed my vote and not typed any of this but it wouldn't be as fun now would it? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:59, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Here, I'll start a vote:

If you hear "tinfoil", add your name to this bullet list.
*{{User:The Chort/sig}}
*{{User:H*R 700/sig}}
If you hear "Pennzoil", add your name here instead.
*{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}}
*{{User:bkmlb/sig}}
*So totally [[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|SBadiaRula]]
*Get better speakers -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
*[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*{{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}}
*--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:59, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

==It all comes down so I break it down==
The KOT quite discernibly says some syllable before "Break it down for me, fellas," but I can't for the life of me figure out what it is. Anybody? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:56, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:"So"?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::''It'' refers to the song, a break-down is a variation or style of the music that they are playing. A common break-down is all the instruments dropping out except percussion. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:58, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I think AbdiViklas is asking for help identifying the syllable he hears before the phrase, not what the word "it" in the phrase stands for.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::That is correct. (And you're correct too, IRF; we owe modern turntabling to that section of the song and [[Wikipedia:DJ Grandmaster Flash|Grandmaster Flash's]] attempts to extend it.) I'm not convinced by "So," Tom; it kinda sounds like "court" to me, which makes no sense. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:24, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
I thought it sounded a lot like "A-break it down for me, fellas!" It's a possibility. - {{User:Super Sonic X/Sig}} 19:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Court could work. Like a king's court. "A sovereign's governing body, including the council of ministers and state advisers." [http://www.answers.com/topic/court][[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:50, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Yup. Excet "Break it down for me, fellas," is not in the Top 10 Things Most Likely To Be Heard In A Council Of Ministers And State Advisors (T1TMLTBHIACOMASA). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:07, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Here, I uploaded [[Media:Breakitdownforme.ogg|a sound clip]] of the KOT's line. That should help in figuring it out. Sounds like "court" or "pork" to me, but it also sounds like it could just be gibberish. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:41, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:Could be "What?" or "Oh" or "Go"... The possibilities are pretty much endless. It could be any number of things. Even listening to the .ogg, I can't tell. It's rather indistinct. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::About all I can get from it listening to it some more (even slowed it down to see if that would help) is that it sounds like it starts with "Tr". Nothing I can think of fits, though - I think it's just a random syllable at this point. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:53, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::: No idea here, but I don't hear a long "O" sound ("So," "Go," "Oh," or whatever.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:06, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::It could simply be a vocalization, a sort of a "hup!" I think given the lack of consensus it's okay to leave it as it is. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:58, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I just watched the toon again, and it souned pretty clear. I'm almost positive it's "A-break..." - {{User:Super Sonic X/Sig}}

:I hear, "A-break it down for me, fairlords," but my headphones stuck. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::Pretty sure that's "fellas". Having it be "A-break" is about the only thing I can think of that makes sense. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:31, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

== Jump Jive and Wail ==

Did anybody else think of the movie [[Wikipedia:Airplane%21|Airplane!]] when Marzi said, "for those of you don't speak Coach Z" refering to the lady that said, "Stewardess, I speak jive." Is this even close to being solid enough for ''real world reference'' status? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:07, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

: No, I just thought about speaking "The Cheat" [[User:No Parking|No Parking]] 15:00, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== Post-its? ==

Are post-its a running gag, now? [[User:No Parking|No Parking]] 14:52, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:see [[Sticky_Notes]] {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:05, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== Killer Ballon ==

Could the run-away Marshie ballon be a referance to the 1998 Thanksgiving Parade when that Cat-in-the-Hat ballon knock over a street light at killed those people? Or is that too much of a stretch? [[User: The Pardack|The Pardack]]
:You know, I didn't even think of that, which is surprising because I lived in NY and was watching at that time, but I'd say so, especially since the cause was not enough people controlling the balloon. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
No one died, but someone was put in a coma for a while. But anyway, I think it could be a reference. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:I dunno, it strikes me as just a common parade balloon gag, not necessarily a reference to a particular incedent. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::I think The Pardack is right - I looked up news articles for that incident (which actually occurred in 1997), and the similarities between that and the Marshie balloon are pretty striking. (pun possibly intended.) I went ahead and added the fact - if you feel it should be STUFF'd, feel free. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:02, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't think it refers to anything in particular. I thought more of [[Wikipedia:The One Where Underdog Gets Away|the ''Friends'' episode where Underdog gets away]]. I went ahead and deleted the fact. If you feel it should be STUFF'd, feel free. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:25, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::::You know, TBC have brains, and brains makes connections between related ideas and memories. So unless they have been living under a rock since their birth, something in particular popped up in their minds when they had the idea for this gag. If anything, the main reference here is the Zeppelin [[Wikipedia:Hindenburg_disaster|Hindenburg disaster]].--[[User:Vl-tone|Vl-tone]] 07:20, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Or for that matter, what about "[[Wikipedia:List of Seinfeld episodes#Season 6: 1994-1995|The Mom and Pop Store]]" epsiode of Seinfeld, When the Woody Woodpecker balloon gets blown? The simple fact is that it could be one particlar reference, but because there are so many candidates, it should be left at a reference to the general theme of a big balloon being a recipie for disaster. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

== Wagon Fulla Pancakes? ==

Should the Wagon Fulla Pancakes be mentioned here? I mean, isn't it the Wagon under SB's float?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 19:18, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:It ''is'' mentioned. Check the inside references. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
Sorry. I wasn't clear enough. I meant in the cast list.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 19:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:It is listed suchly, by the way, in [[Senorial Day]] (though personally I don't think should be either there or here. [[montage]], yes, because it's personified so heavily, but not the other two. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:10, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::If we list something once, we list it everywhere. Or nowhere. The key is consistancy. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:07, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::You don't see a case for different treatment when an inanimate object is personified into a character (as in [[Characters#PseudoCharacters]])? In [[montage]], the Wagon ''is'', functionally, a character. Here it's functionally a wagon. (Hey, I just thought of something; an argument could be made against listing "[[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]]" in the Cast here, since it ''isn't'' full of pancakes!) I'd argue it should be in the cast list for [[montage]] but no others to date. (Of course if my argument is accepted it would entail other changes; e.g. Frank Benedetto should be taken out of the Cast list for [[garage sale]] and [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], since it's just a popcorn popper in those.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:55, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== About the lack of basement ==

Remarks notes that Bubs' Concession Stand doesn't appear to have a basement in the Homestar Egg. However, we already know that the basement is accessed by a lowering mechanism in the middle of the stand. This would put said mechamism about where Homestar's box is. I'm thinking it's possible (POSSIBLE) that Homestar's box is covering the basement elevator. What do you all think? [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 02:18, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
*I think you need to lay off the caffine. that is so absurd!--{{User:Benol/sig}} 02:20, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:I think that's included in the Remark? And I think Benol could avoid sounding insulting. (Although, yes, the whole basement issue ''is'' absurd; not just because it's unlikely to be a priority of TBC, but because if it is it raises certain absurdist images, such as Bubs fitting through a hole that size.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:21, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Bub's elevator is not in the smack center of his stand, it's in the ''front-center'' part which is not covered by the cardboard box.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:24, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::: There is no basement in the stand, thus no elevator. In [[geddup noise]], Bubs was doing the old "pretend I'm in an elevator" trick that mimes do.--[[User:Vl-tone|Vl-tone]] 06:36, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::What about when he walked out of the basement in [[Strong Bad Email?]] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I know. It's just a wierd situation, his basement. I'll wing a mail to TBC and see what they say. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Blue Face?==
[[Image:qod 4 - bubs.PNG|frame|left]]
This may just be going over my head right now, but I don't understand the reference on Homestar's box during the easter egg. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 01:23, 23 Nov 2005 (PST)
:Maybe this will help. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:26, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
{{clear}}
::Oh. Well I said that I was probably missing the obvious. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 02:21, 23 Nov 2005 (PST)

User talk:Tom

H*R 700 — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:24:46 GMT

H*R 700:

==Jones being funny==
Yarr!! - [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 23:05, 16 Jul 2004 (MST)

==Seethroo with some questions==
Heya, [[User:Tom|Tom]]. Do you ever check this thing?
What's goin' on with the Wiki? It seems to be going nuts. ~ [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

:Yes, I do. And yeah, it's under some strain right now. Crazy. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:51, 2 Aug 2004 (MST)

Cool, cool. I'm gonna be able to help move stuff tonight. [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

:Sweet. I appreciate it. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:41, 3 Aug 2004 (MST)

Hey, is there any particular reason I CANNOT get onto Recent Changes on the oldschool wiki? It's seriously gettin' on my nerves. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:03, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

:I'm guessing it's just the mySQL overload we've been experiencing. Yeah, bummer. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:05, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

Woah. I added a pantload...but there are still some organizational things that need to be hammered out...I guess check the comments I made in various places...I'm tired... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 23:11, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

HOLY CRAP! Who're all those people blocked from this wiki??? I didn't know you were doin' that much blocking already! - [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:34, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, those are open proxies. You can see the note [[Template:BlockedProxy|here]] and Joey's and my discussion of the topic [[Template talk:BlockedProxy|here]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:47, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

----

I wanted to do that for old times sake. Anyway, I kinda discovered something to make transferring things much easier. If you take the code from 'Tavi pages, put em in Word, and then do a ctrl-f, you can have it replace all the parentheses with brackets. Doing things that way, I can get all my links straightened out before I even put the text in MediaWiki. Just sharing... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:44, 12 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, I do the same thing, except I use TextPad. It helps a bunch. Mostly. Just have to be a little careful. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:48, 12 Aug 2004 (MST)

::How're all my edits and transfers? Is there something wrong that I'm doing that I need to be aware of? (did I just say "doing"? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:54, 12 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::You, my friend, are doing a great job. You're really keeping things moving along. Keep up the good work. I'm seriously thinking you are the man right about now. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:24, 12 Aug 2004 (MST)

==Note from Firebird==

Just wanted to say thanks for all the work put into the move. Great Job! -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:You're welcome. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:08, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

== Redirects ==

Tom: I'm seeing some deletion of redirect pages on the deletion log. It looks like most of those pages will not be missed, but it does help to have some "common" misspelling articles redirect to the proper article. This is not for sloppy linking , as no pages SHOULD link to a redirect page. This is for people who come to the site, punch in a name into the search box and are taken to the correct page.

There is always some debate over what constitutes a common misspelling. I created a redirect from Whats her face to What's her face. This seems useful to me. Let me know what you think about this. [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 15:42, 15 Sep 2004 (MST)

:I agree. The ones I've been trying to catch are old links that were not fixed correctly during the move. Things like "MainPage 10" that were used instead of "[[Main Page 10]]" becuase of CamelCase on 'Tavi. The person who created that redirect then went ahead and created one for "MainPage 11", even though nothing linked there. I don't see the need for 21 pages to be created like this. Another example is "sbemail1" and its companions. There isn't a need for that.

:Of course, you also have to remember that we turned on case-sensitivity. That means that "[[What's Her Face]]" and "What's her Face" are also two completely different pages. I'd rather that a link show up in red and someone pick up on their mistake right away then have them continue to make links to redirect pages. But I suppose it would be very hard to keep a lid on things like this once we get going. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:55, 15 Sep 2004 (MST)

::Oh, Contraire! I have often wanted to be able to quickly type "sbemailxx" into the search box to find something quickly. I agree that old camel case links should be removed, but I see nothing wrong with shortcut redirects for the lazy. (I was actually thinking of adding these the other day, then stumbled across this thread. Sorry I'm a little late joining the discussion.) :) --[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] 22:37, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

:::I totally agree JoeyDay. I too have wished to quickly type the sbemailxx when I am watching a new toon instead of hving to search the Strong Bad Emails by Name page.--[[User:38.112.87.6|38.112.87.6]] 12:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Uh, this conversation happened over six and a half months ago. Thanks for your input, but this really isn't relevant anymore.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==Note from Jones==
''{copied and pasted from [[User:Tom]]}''

I'm just so sick of you being at the top of [[Special:Wantedpages]]. So there. Now you're unwanted. -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 07:49, 3 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Thanks Jones. I feel so loved. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:08, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

==Notes from Maudi==
''{both were copied and pasted from [[User:Tom]]}''

Thank God that you made it, Tom! Thank God! -Maudi Algabban

:I agree! -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:08, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

Hey, Tom! Have you listened to "Dragostea din tei" with Haiducii or O-Zone? They're from Romania. -Maudi --[[User:193.150.221.247|193.150.221.247]] 16:28, 19 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Sorry, I have to admit that I still haven't. Have you made a userpage yet? Heh heh. But seriously, I know there's [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=193.150.221.247 some stuff] that needs to be attributed to you by being on your userpage. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:08, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

== Note ==

Oh geez, man, it looks like I disambiguated a page you deleted. Took too long doing it, I guess. I'm really sorry about that. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 19:40, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

:No problem, I can just re-delete it. And I appreciate you leaving this note. It makes me feel good. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:41, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

== Oh Man ==
''{In reply to a comment from [[User_talk:Thunderbird_L17]]}''

All that work... I'm really sorry. I was trying to figure out why all my pics looked slightly off. Oh well. I've switched over now. I just wish I hadn't deleted them as I went along... Oh well. I think I'm still doing ok for only being here about a week. Again, my apolagies. And they'll all be PNG from now on. Btw, if you could provide me with a list of the JPG pictures I uploaded, I could replace them in my spare time. Thanks.

-Thunderbird

:Hey, no problem. Here's a [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Thunderbird_L17 good place] to get started. Then there's always the [[Special:Imagelist|Image List]]. I think that might work best. And I can come up with a better list if you need it. And I'm glad you can see the difference. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:03, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

UPDATE:

Topic Complete.

All of my uploaded JPG files are now PNG. Took a bit of doing, but it's done.

== Sebastian Coe ==

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Coe 
''He first ran against Ovett in Prague in 1978 in an 800 meter race that neither won. The next year in Oslo, Norway, '''Coe set his first world records''' (in the 800-meter and '''mile races'''). One of the most famous races between Ovett and Coe was in the 1980 Olympic Games in the 1500-meters. Coe won in Olympic Record time.''

=== Further References ===
From http://www.geocities.com/hotsprings/3257/coe.html 
''He beat Ovett's mile record, running it in 3 min 48.53 sec on August 19; only a week later '''Ovett set another mile record, which was then shattered by Coe''' with a 3 min 47.33 sec run on August 28.''

Here are some of his times in the mile: 
''mile <nowiki>3'48''95</nowiki> 1979 Wr (Oslo)'' 
''mile <nowiki>3'48''53</nowiki> 1981 Wr (Zurich)'' 
''mile <nowiki>3'47''33</nowiki> 1981 Wr (Bruxelles)'' 
Note: Wr stands for World Record.

One final reference: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/World%20record%20progression%20for%20the%20mile%20run 

And a quote from you; 
:''"Hmm. [Coe] didn't really run the mile. And he never had the world record."'' 
Could you please cite your references?? As far as I can tell, he not only ran the mile, he also held the world record on ''three'' seperate occasions.[[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

::Um, my bad. But you did notice that I changed my edit after that edit you quoted me on, right? And that I was being particularly ambigious in my wording? Anyway, you are right. No hard feelings. Thank you. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:13, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

:So, were you gonna change it back then? [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

::Done. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:13, 23 Sep 2004 (MST)
:Thanks [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

== Idea ==

How about desktop background downloads for the wiki? Anyone who wanted to create one could, then e-mail one of the admins the image. Then the admin, if approved, could upload it into the wiki images. It's just an idea, but I like the sound of it. I'd love to have an HRwiki background. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:Hmm. I don't think so. The problem is this, the Wiki is just for information. If you want to make something on your own and then have it somewhere that you could link to from your userpage, that would be better. See, we kind of tread on this uneasy ground with copyrights and the like. Not only that, but there's also the content issue. I know a background that you would make would most likely be good and wholesome for the Wiki and for Homestar Runner, but I wouldn't want to encourage other not-as-good backgrounds to be made. You are always free to make your own backgrounds, keep them to yourself, use them on your computer, and do what ever you want with them.
:As of right now, I'll say this: I don't think you will ever have an official Homestar Runner Wiki background. But I'll ask around and see what I can do. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:43, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

::That's fine with me. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

== Floppy Disks ==

Since you apparently look after the floppy disk section mostly, I figured you would be the best person to ask. How do you feel about a picture of the floppy disk container and it's label beside every listing of it in the inside jokes section? I would be happy to complete that undertaking if you approve. Also, is there anywhere else I could add some pictures? I'm finished the rejects section.

-Thunderbird_L17

:[http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=Floppy+Disk+Container%2FStrongBadEmailDiskLabels Floppy Disk Container/StrongBadEmailDiskLabels]. Check it out. The problem is this: the Wiki is text-based, and information provided through text makes things much easier to search and quicker to load. I'm not really sure that having a screenshot of every different one is needed. Why would it need to be seen by the viewer? Could they simply watch the toon or email instead? One thing that really needs to be done regarding The Container is having the links to the page standardized. Every Fun Facts section on every email and toon that has The Container in it should link to the Floppy Disk Container page in a uniform way. You could get started on that, if you want. And then there's what the disks actually reference. There's a subpage of the Old Wiki page on that needs to be copied over and gone through with a fine-tooth comb.
:Regarding the images, you kind of need to convince me why they are actually needed. Thanks for asking though, this has really gotten me thinking. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:31, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

Well since you already have the list of where the disk case occurs, it should be easy to find the toons to put the link in. I'll get on it later. As far as the floppy images go, I don't think they're NEEDED per-say, but I think it would be kinda cool. It lets people really VISUALIZE the floppys. They would be really small pics too, not full screen. But if you don't want them I won't put them there. As for other pics though, I have been kind of going through the sites putting pictures on everything, if you don't like any of them, feel free to take them off. I just think that any character, object, or place does need a picture to really visualize what the afforementioned thing is. Most of the pages I did only have one or two pics, with the exceptions of The [[King of Town's Castle]] place page, and the [[Tandy_400]] computer page. I kinda may have gone overboard on those ones. Look 'em over and decide. The [[Monkey_D]]'s page also have a few. If you don't like them you can fix them how you see fit. But the widescreen pic in [[Strong_Bad's_Basement]], I'm really proud of that pic. It took me awhile. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 22:24, 22 Sep 2004 (PST)

:Those four pages that you linked to are good. And that basement image is especially good. In some places, it borders on the line of being to much, but I think you played it well. They also could use some small tweaks, but that will all come in good time. As for The Floppies, I think you can make a seperate section on the page for the images and organize them in a table. I actually have all the images, and I can upload them later if you want to use them. (I use them for [http://members.lycos.co.uk/tfpreuss/avatar/avatar.php my avatar] on the forum.) What do you think of that? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:11, 23 Sep 2004 (MST)

Okay, it's up and running..ish. Access it from the regular floppy list. If you have the images, feel free to upload them. Any that you don't have, or don't feel like uploading, I can them. Just upload what you want, and I'll do the rest. Oh, and how do you feel about the naming of images in the Floppy_*name_of_e-mail*.PNG uniformity? You can name then however you want, but I think there should be some form of uniformity in naming the image files. Just tell me if this is okay, and if you're done uploading the images you want. Also, they should all be fullscreen screenshots, right?

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 11:10, 27 Sep 2004 (PST)

Alrightie. Update on the floppy disk container. I've been slowly working away at the Floppy disk container with screenshots page, no help needed there, but as I do so I realized another thing missing from the floppy disk container section, and an actual USEFUL thing, is a breif description and history of the games listed on the floppy disk containers. So that being said, I'm also plugging away at that in my little corner of the floppy disk page. If you would like the commentaries on the main floppy disk page too, which I think would be useful, please let me know so that I can add them to both pages as I go along. No rush though, it'll probably be a few weeks before I'm finished researching them and all. Let me know if you think this would be an improvement to the floppy disk page though. Generally I don't ask permission for editing things, but since you're the senior and keeper of the floppy disk container, I thought it was only fair to ask you. So what are your thoughts?

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 9:45, 6 Oct 2004 (PST)

:I do like the information on what the labels mean, and I wouldn't really call them commentaries. They are all pretty clear cut. Let's see how big they get and then play it from there. Keep them on that screenshot page for now, I don't want to violate [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:44, 7 Oct 2004 (MST)

Hiho. I've run into a roadblock doing the pics. In the e-mail 'lackey', how did you read, let alone get a picture, of the CD case? It's off the screen! Please let me know, or if you have the pic, simply save it as Floppy_lackey.PNG . Please let me know either way whenever. Thanks.

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 10:37, 11 Oct 2004 (PST)

:I used a program called [http://www.flash-decompiler.com/ Flash Decompiler]. It's a free download, so you might want to give it a try. Though I wasn't able to export the actual image, I was able to read the text. But you might have better luck than I did.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:41, 11 Oct 2004 (MST)

Sorry, I don't like treating you like an FAQ, I just have ONE last question. (Probably)...
I have the program, but how do you get the file onto it? It seems like you can only decompile files on your harddrive. Is this so? If it is, how do you get a flash file (SB E-mail Lackey) onto your hard drive? If it isn't, how do you get it from the interent? Last question, probably. I promise. Likely.

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 7:33, 13 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Down the bottom of each toon's or email's page, there's a link for the flash file. Just right click and choose "Save Link As..." or your browser's equivalent.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:57, 14 Oct 2004 (MST)

Thanks, I got it. What do you think of my floppy for Lackey? It's the best I could do... Anyways, I wanted to ask you about the once and only once policy. Though I agree that it's a good policy, I think that the 'see above' thing destroys the look of the summaries, especially once they are all finished. Plus, 'Manhunter New York' appeared in an e-mail at the top, then a toon way at the bottom. So it would be kind of hard to just say 'see above'. Plus since the picture is repeated, why not the explanation? You are the moderater, and whatever you decide I'll abide by, but in this case, since it's only for about 4 floppies, a number that's not likely to be increased, could I just repeat the explanations?

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 6:28, 15 Oct 2004 (PST)

:You know, I do like the idea of having the information on both. Let's try using a tempate instead. Do you think that will work?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:33, 15 Oct 2004 (MST)

Template? I don't know much about website formating or whatnot. Basically everything I do on the Wiki I learn by looking at how somebody else wrote a code, and then copying that pattern. But if you think the template or whatever will work, go ahead. You were right about floating the pictures to the left, making it into tables, all that kind of thing. Just do what you want, and if I disagree I can always revert. But overall I'm happy with what you do. Does this mean that I can put the repeat explanations on the few pictures though, instead of 'see above'?

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 23:49, 15 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Okay, here's what I did. I created [[Template:tongue of the fatman]], [[Template:lode runner]], and [[Template:manhunter new york]]. Check out the page to see if you like it. Now, there's only one place you need to go in order to change the content that will show up for both floppies.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:41, 16 Oct 2004 (MST)

Okay, that works. I don't really plan on editing them much anyways anymore, once the summary is there. But it looks exactly the same, so it's fine. Btw, I fixed the out of place 3.5 inch disk summary, I found a place for it where it fits nicely. Now nothing has two explanations, and the 5.25 inch disks don't have the same summary twice. (See Second 5.25 Inch Disk Summmary)

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 9:09, 16 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Very good. Well done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 16 Oct 2004 (MST)

Hey, can you do the same to Cave Quest (100th e-mail) that you did to Shogun? I can't get it the right size without it pixelating...

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 18:33, 17 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Heh heh. I already did. You can revert back to my image from [[:Image:Floppy flashback.PNG|here]] if you like.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:42, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

Hey Tom, I thought JPG format was to be used for videos and pictures, and PNG for all flash material. Plus I think the JPG looked clearer and brighter. If you really don't want it there, then I'll try another way, but I thought I read somewhere that JPG was preferable for pictures, just not for flash. Is the one JPG really that bad? Please clarify. Thanks.

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 06:30, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Ah ha. There's a little catch here though. We are talking about a screenshot of a movie or image, and not the actual image itself. Screenshots should always be PNGs. The only kinds of JPGs we should have are photos like [[:Image:TheBrothersChapsBandW.jpg]] or [[:Image:mattchapman.jpg]]. Perhaps an screenshot like [[:Image:puppetdween.png]] better illustrates what I'm trying to say.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:35, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

Okay, I getcha. Then I guess I'll just put it back on the old PNG one for now. Thanks. I guess if anything, it adds diversity...

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 19:08, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

Alright, I think it's finally done. I have one more little task though that I can't complete on my own. The three templates, Template:manhunter_new_york , Template:lode_runner , and Template:tongue_of_the_fatman are now unneeded, and as such should be deleted, right? I can't figure out how to. If you know of a way, be my guest. Or should they just be left peacefully, until the end of time? -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 09:40, 1 Nov 2004 (MST)

Sorry, I was just going to get breakfast when I finished my summary, and when I finished it I realized there was a stored version that wasn't there when I started. I didn't have time to merge them so I just uploaded mine, and I was going to merge them when I got the chance, which is now. I did notice the picture though, and already put it up. Sorry about that, I don't want to offend anyone. I'm going to merge them right now. I just figured if I put mine in quickly yours is still stored as a past edit, so that way they're both there if needed. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 12:21, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)

Actually, I never thought about NPOV. While I was doing all this, I used reviews as sources, it's easier to just take the opinions of the writers and condence them. But I think that meathod has given the summaries a multi purpose, to now give you a bit of background about the game for curiosity's sake, but also as a type of mini review, for those who are deciding whether or not to find and play them. It gives the summaries a critical and reviewish type feel. Now to go back and do them all NPOV'D would take some doing, and in my opinion I don't think would be as enjoyable to read. What do you think?
'''Side Note:''' Since they replaced the 5.25's along with the Tandy, do you think they might replace the 2.5's with CD's along with the comp? '''UPDATE EDIT: No they didn't, but on [[Main Page 22]] it reveals [[The Cheat]]'s computer has them.''' I dunno, just a curious little observation.

--[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 15:05, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)

I figured since I already started a conversation thread here, I'd ask this under the same topic. Do you have a DVD player built into your computer? Basically the reason is that I need the pics of the Floppy Disk Containers from the DVD Main Menus for the Floppy Disk Container page. If it's got Puppet Time Version, it stands to reason that DVD version would be acceptable as well. I do have the DVD set, but no way of getting screens. (Prefferably 150px or larger). Thanks in advance,
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 15:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Okay. I do have a DVD player for my computer. But what screenshots do you need?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

The screens of the Floppy disk Containers on the Main Menus (the CG'd ones) from the DVDS. [[User:The Paper|The Paper]] did get them, but they decidedly leave something to be desired, and we're hoping you can do better. Hopefully Zoomed and what not. Also, the last Floppy Disk container couldn't be identified, it seems as though it's cut off by the camera. Check the [[Floppy Disk Container]], it's got the base of what I'm looking for there. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks alot. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 17:58, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Okay, I'll see what I can do.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:32, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Return the fanstuff! ==
I'd like a promise to agree to let me bring back the fanstuff. It doesn't make the wiki complete without it.--[[User:No Loafing V2|No Loafing]] 16:34, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Joey has already [[User_talk:JoeyDay|replied to this demand]]. Fanstuff is [[HRWiki:About|not approved]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:11, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)
then im leaving. GOOD BYE!--[[User:No Loafing V2|No Loafing, who will only be on the forum from now on.]] 04:57, 1 Oct 2004 (MST)

Wow. What a crybaby. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:43, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

I second that. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 09:42, 1 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Rollbacks ==

Exactly how do you roll a page back to its previous version? I've attempted to do this in the past, and I still haven't figured out how. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 19:28, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)

:A very good question. I just fixed up the instructions on the [[WikiTroll]] page yesterday. Check 'em out.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:32, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)

== First time Here? on Log in ==

Is there anyway to link to the [[Hrwiki:About|about]] page on a log in page? It seems that people don't read that page, and it might help new users who log in? Do you agree? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:Hmm, that's a pretty good idea. I'll look into that. But what might even be better is if we had some sort of [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee|welcoming committee]]. Would you want to be in charge or something like that?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:55, 7 Oct 2004 (MST)

::I think it would be great if we had a welcoming committee (and I wouldn't mind being in charge). -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:::Fantastic, I'm happy to hear it. Just look over what Wikipedia does. We don't need all that stuff, but I'm sure you'll find a way to adapt it for us.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:50, 7 Oct 2004 (MST)

::::Should I make a page for our own little welcome committee? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:::::Yeah, [[Hrwiki:Welcoming committee]] should work nicely. You're in charge, buddy.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:58, 7 Oct 2004 (MST)

== SB Email categories ==

I moved the [[:Category: Strong Bad Email]] as a sub-category of [[:Category: Strong Bad Filmography]]. All the emails were in both categories when technically all SB Emails are part of his filmography by default. It cleans up the Strong Bad filmography nicely and keeps the all the emails grouped together. There is only one email that SB is not in, but due to this arrangement will still be included in his filmography, but taking the IMDB as a guide, if someone guest hosts the "Late Show with David Letterman" it is called "Late Show Backstage", but it still shows up on Dave’s filmography. - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 09:01, 12 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Personally I don't think this really makes sense. An email that Strong Bad is not in should not be in his Filmography, despite what IMDb does. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

::I agree. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:::I also found it a bit confusing. Strong Bad, Homestar, and Marzipan are in all of [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]]s, but I don't think that should be a sub-category of any one of their filmographies. I think it would not be confusing to have every email be directly in Strong Bad's Filmography, except [[anything]], just how it was. It would also be less confusing for someone just looking at any email and thinking to themselves, "Oh, this one isn't listed in Strong Bad's Filmography", since it does not show up directly on the page as it is now with the subcategory. That's really what it comes down to, that [[:Category: Strong Bad Filmography]] does not show up on the emails. Oh, and the "anything" thing too.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:56, 12 Oct 2004 (MST)

:::Funny, the IMDB is a suitable guide to determine the precedent for a voice over. To me the Filmography categories are proving to be more trouble then they are worth and a misapplication of the original intent of the category structure. I understand wanting an automatically generated list for the 12 main characters that show up in everything, but it seems from all the other character pages that the Wiki users are more than capable of manually tracking the appearances of even the most obscure psudo-characters.

The stucture:
<pre>Character->Filmography->Strong Bad Filmography->Strong Bad Email</pre>

:::makes a lot of sence to me. SB is in all but one email, which can be explained by a note. If having 100+ emails cluttering the SB filmography and being unnessicarily duplicated in the email list and in the email category doesnt bother you, then it wont bother me.

:::I guess I should get going on [[:Category: Biscuit Dough Hands Man Filmography]] while I'm at it. - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 12:15, 12 Oct 2004 (MST)

::::Your presentation just now does make a bit of sense. I'll have to see what others think. Though on that other issue, as I understood it, the filmography categories were never supposed to be extended beyond the 12 main characters. Somewhere along the line, this was not explained well enough and the whole thing took off. I think there's over fifty filmographies now. I'd be happy to draw a line somewhere. ([[:Category:The_Alien_Guy_Filmography]]?)[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:24, 12 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Thank you!!!!!!!1111oneone ==

Thank You x 1 Billion [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

:Hey, no problem.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:07, 15 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Help Page ==

I'm confused on where to post questions in the [[Help:Contents|help]] section. Do we post it on the FAQ Discussion page or somewhere on the Main Page of the help section? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:The [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ|discussion page of the FAQ]]. Discussion and "talking" should never really be on a page. The headings on the [[Help:Contents|help]] page were set up by me back in late July and we never really fleshed them out. I'll fix it now. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:20, 19 Oct 2004 (MST)

No Problem. And Thanks. -- [[USer:FireBird|FireBird]]

==Notes from The Mysterious Stranger==
Hello, Tommy-boy. I'm back, and in buisiness.
-- [[User:Mysterious-Stranger|Mysterious-Stranger]]

==Subpages==
If there are subpages, we should use them. Anybody agree? (You have too or else, TOM!)--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 05:31, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

No. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:Subpages are useful, but only for the right kinds of stuff, like adding an archive to a cluttered talk page, or some ''temporary'' user space separate from the rest of your user space for, say, a rewrite of a page. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:56, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Who's In Charge Of The Main Page Anyways? ==

Hiho. I'm not getting much of a response on the [[Talk:Main Page|Main Talk Page]], so I figured I'd go straight to the source, assuming that the source(s) are moderators. Anyways, here's my question. Who's in charge of the Main Page, not so much the look of it, I don't really care about that, but moreso the organization of the links to pages. Now I'm no moderator, but I was curious as to why the links are organized the way they are. Why are Inside Jokes part of Wiki Stuff, Yet Songs part of Knowledge Base? I've been thinking about the layout, and I belive I've figued out a good way of sortage, and am hoping for either a yes or a no. Either one, as long as I can maybe get some kind of explanation as to why they're sorted the way they are, should the answer be a no. Anyhoo, without further ado, I give you my sorting idea...

Basically it consists of the Knowledge Base containing ONLY the things listed on the H*R main page(s), and putting everything left over into Wiki Stuff. It would look something like this, and would have the added bonus of evening the two sections out, leaving External Links on the bottom...

(The Knowledge Base Stuff)

* [[Toons]]
** [[Strong Bad Email]]
** [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]]
** [[Teen Girl Squad]]
** [[Powered By The Cheat]]
** [[Puppet Stuff]]
** [[Holiday Toons]]
* [[Games]]
* [[Characters]]
* [[Downloads]]
* [[Store]]
* [[Email]]
* [[Legal]]
* [[Main Pages]]
** [[Weekly Fanstuff]]
** [[Quote of the Week]]
** [[Sketchbook]]
* [[Museum]]
* [[Secret Pages]]

Then this to the right of it: (Perhaps the first part even in an additional section?)

* [[Places]]
* [[Items]]
* [[Songs]]
* Quotes
* [[Glossary]]
* [[Inside Jokes]]
* "Rejects"
(Perhaps another section here?)
* [[Special:Listusers|List of registered wiki users]]
* [[Links]]
* [[Sightings]]
* [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]]
* [[HRWiki:Ledger|Ledger]]
* [[HRWiki:Projects|Projects]]
* [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]]
* [[WikiTroll]]
* [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee|Welcoming committee]]

Then the external links in another catergory. Is there any problem with this layout? The idea behind it is that the first section are your main ingrediants, and the second one is things that you can make out of them. I just belive that things such as Rejects and Inside Jokes should be in the same catergory as things such as songs and items. Any answer to this would be much appreciated, and then I'll shut up about it. Thanks alot Tom. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 02:33, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I'm not really sure. Your line of thinking makes sense, however I'm thinking it is our system of classification that really seems to be the issue. Inside Jokes? Rejects? What the heck are those really? Things need to be clearly defined and a system needs to be implimentated to classify things.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:57, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

Hmmm... Thats a good point. Okay, well at least keep my organizational idea in mind as you go about implementing the changes. And with that, I withdraw from the Main Page arguments and leave it in the rest of the Wiki's capable hands. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 16:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

== STUFF and Fun Facts ==

As you may have read I have an issue with the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page. I am very glad someone has spearheaded an attempt to control the "fun fact" problem, but I still think that the voting and discussion for disputed Fun Facts should be made on the article's talk page and not on the STUFF page.

If a controversial article like [[Wikipedia:History of Israel]] can exist on the Wikipedia by using the Talk page and without resorting to a common page voting system, I think the Homestar Wiki article [[virus]] can too.

Now that we have people's attention with the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page I suggest that we move content discussion back to the Talk pages where they belong.

I have created a preliminary template:disputed

It reads as follows:{{disputed}}

This could be used to let contributors know that there is a dispute, and to direct them to the talk page. The Disputed Fun Facts link should go to a page with the info that [[User:furrykef |furrykef]] wrote on what is and is-not a good fun fact.

People were not using the talk pages effectively in the past, which is a failure of us the users, not of the talk pages.

-[[User:Drhaggis|[[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]]] 16:35, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I completely agree that talk pages are not effectively used by our users. I did read your comment on the talk page and did like some parts of it.

:You mentioned there that the popularity of the "Stuff" page is typical of a sloppy discussion forum and not an article based reference guide. I indeed was amazed at all the users who were very interested in voting. It appears that a quick vote and comment is much easier than proposing fixes and improvements.

:You also presented the idea that this problem inherent mostly because the Homestar Runner Universe is finite. I completely agree. I also believe this is why some users, instead of improving on articles that already exist, create very small articles for very fringe elements of said universe. While I don't think that the Stool article may be one of these, I'm not entirely interested in proposing other examples at this time.

:While this may not be the time or place to discuss your other comment on that talk page about proper classification, I believe it would be important to address that issue with whichever system is accepted for the dealing with fun facts.

:As [[User:furrykef|Kef]] noted in his reply to your comment, the STUFF process was loosely based on Wikipedia's Votes for Deletion process. I do like Wikipedia's VfD process and have participated in it in the past, but as you may notice we don't have a system like this for dealing with the deletion of pages because we are so small. It works for Wikipedia but would simply would not work for us.

:Throughout my travels around Wikipedia, I have seen several pages with notices like the one on the [[Wikipedia:History of Israel]] page. While I don't believe the scale of discussions here will every reach such a level as that, I am willing to investigate the possibility of using such a system.

:If we were to adopt your proposal, I would want some sort of centrally located instruction page. As you mention, this could contain some of Kef's rules from the STUFF page. I'd also want it to list all the pages that are currently going through the process.

:Of course, your proposal is in direct conflict with the current STUFF system, which the users seems to have latched on to. I like your proposal, but I'm interested in hearing how you would implement it given the current circumstances.

:Thank you for being bold enough to propose an alternative.

:[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Image Use Policy ==

Hi, I was just wondering about the special page "[[Special:Image_use_policy|Image Use Policy]]", accessable from the [[Special:Upload|Upload Page]]. It doesn't seem to have anything on it. Is there any way to fix that? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 18:35, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Good find. I've changed the link so that it goes to [[HRWiki:Image use policy]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:58, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Thanks, I'll get to work on that a bit later. Maybe cut and paste something from Wikipedia and go from there. In other news, were you aware that somebody turned the [[Floppy Disk Container]] into a redirect? Is this allowed? Do you condone this? If so, I'm sorry that I kind of hijacked your pride and joy and turned it into my own. I'll make it up to you, somehow... [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 01:25, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::I did notice that redirect and decided to not do anything about it. And the only thing we have now regarding images is what is in the [[HRWiki:Standards#Screenshot|screenshot section]] on the Standards page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:15, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

i dont no how to bring a pickchur to my payj. how do yoou do it?

:What?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:28, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::[[User:Son Goku|Son Goku]] needs help putting up a ''picture'' on his user ''page''. ([http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Image:w12_DragonballZ100.jpg This picture that he uploaded]) --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:46, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah sorry about that. You see, he doesn't really know how to spell
very good.
[[User:Balmung of Azure Sky|Lord Balmung of the Azure Sky]] 3:47 PM

:Uh, right.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:15, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Things Noticed Page==
I didn't know there was a fansite wiki, but thanks for telling me! Sorry if I was being to rude about things noticed... -- [[User:Guy27|Guy27]] 12:02, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Poor Images==
''[In reply to a comment on [[User_talk:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf#Poor_images|User_talk:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf]]]''

Yeah, hi. You asked how I made those pictures? Well, I have a screenshot program that only makes Jpegs (which I later save as PNG's), so you can see why the quality would be poor. 'Cause, you know, Jpegs are poor quality. Oh, and I like how you are constanly using [http://www.wikipedia.org WikiPedia] links.
---[[User:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf|Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf]] 22:58, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] links are great. I'm curious as to what "screenshot program" you use. What operating system are you running? I know Windows captures raw image files to the clipboard with a simple push of the "print screen" key. These can be used in any image editing program, like the [[Wikipedia:Free software|free]] [http://www.gimp.org/ the GIMP]. They turn out much better than [[:Image:Kobe 1-4.png|other]] [[:Image:Kobe 2-4.png|images]] [[:Image:Kobe 2-4.png|you uploaded]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:52, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)
:''[Cross posted at [[User_talk:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf#Poor_images|User_talk:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf]] at 17:54, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)]''

I use this thing called [http://www.screenshot-utility.com/ Screenshot Utility] as my, quote unquote, "screenshot program", if that's what you call those things. But anyway, I'm trying to download a new [http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/9220 "program of shots of screens"], but the downloading bar's been stuck at 77% for like, 10 minutes, so, I dunno.

==About blocking==

Hello, Tom! I don't mean to interfere with anything, but I noticed that you blocked 24.1.84.103 for defacing the Main Page when it looks like s/he was restoring it from another troll (and then it was trolled again by that "logan" kid).

Anyway, I really admire the work you've been doing on this Wiki. Gweat job...I mean, gweat job...I mean, gweat job. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 20:41, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Yeah man, that's my bad. Thanks. It's been fixed.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:48, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Re: Rejects cat==

Just got your message. The reason I started the "project" is because, from my view, the Rejected Characters should be flagged not only from the Rejects page, but from their article itself. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:26, 28 Dec 2004 (EST)

:Your concern is understandable, but the whole "rejects" thing really isn't to Drhaggis and my liking. However I'm mostly at a loss at how to classify these things, but I'll ask Drhaggis, as putting things into categories is his speciality.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:33, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I think the "Rejects" page should be deleted. If we as a community have deemed a character or item "article worthy" we simply create the article and categorize it accordingly. I think "Rejects" are a hold over from the old Wiki that is not served by the capabilities of the new Wiki. There are few truly "Rejected" things; [[Dijjery-Doo]] for example was rejected by [[TBC]], but he has still popped up in [[for kids]].
: The Characters/Items/Places categories are a bit big, and can be grouped into sub categories. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 12:51, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Okay, sounds reasonable enough to me. However, how do you think we can go about this with minimal damage to the egos of those responsible for said Rejects? And I sure don't want anything to get lost.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:14, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I think we just need to delete the "Rejects" list. All the things that were previously deamed to be rejected already have articles so no data is lost, just the well done "...are a waste of time" banners on the page. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 13:23, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Whoa! Those things really ''are'' all categorizied. Okay, the page has been deleted, and all article links to it have been removed.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:36, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Rejected Halloween Costumes Task ==

Hi Tom! Thunderbird here again, with a special task for a few of my fellow users. On the [[Sketchbook]] page, in the [[Sketchbook#In The Museum|Museum]] section of that page, the last picture is a bunch of rejected halloween costume ideas. The caption gives the challenge '10 bucks to anyone who can identify them all'. So what I propose is to identify them all. I've already set up a basic 'top left to bottom right' type list under the 'Description' section, with the two most obvious costumes in it. But can we get the other costumes, and win ourselves $10? Any costumes you know would be a help. Thanks. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 02:14, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Update: The good Doctor Haggis was far faster with that task than I could have ever expected. All the costumes are done with the exception of one: The full body [[Marzipan]]. Many think that she is in fact Belle from Beauty & the Beast, but we're not quite sure about that. What are your thoughts? Any better ideas as to who this mystery Marzipans could be, or even just your opinion as to weather or not she's Belle? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 12:11, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Stu... ==

Any idea where [[User:Stu|Stu]] has been? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:Yeah, I do. But you can ask him yourself. His email address is in his profile on the forum, or you could use the [[Special:Emailuser/Stu|MediaWiki user email thing]] if you have it set up correctly.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:52, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

::Okay. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

== SsSp ==

I'd say [[SsSp]] passed the test. :-) --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 23:36, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Indeed. Hmm...[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:21, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Glitch Template ==

Sorry about that! I was just experemeting w/ overflows, and It turned out that FF coulndent handle it. I didnt know how to deleat it! Firefox crashed while atempting to view it. Also, why dont they have protection on user pages? Couldend a WikiTroll Distroy sombodys page? How do i set <nowiki>→[[User:firefocman|''<tt>[[User:firefoxman|FireFox Man]]</tt>'']]</nowiki> As my siggi?
Thanks,
→[[User:firefocman|''<tt>[[User:firefoxman|FireFox Man]]</tt>'']]

:The Wiki can be edited by any person, but defacement never lasts. And here are [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Preferences#Your_nickname the instructions] to change your signature.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:31, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Sysop ==

How does one become a Sysop? It would be nice to be able to ban some Trolls. *chuckles* -[[User:firefoxman|Ω Lucas]] 15:23, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Certainly not by asking. Teh lame, don't you think? Also, please try to use the "Show preview" button before the "Save page" button.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:18, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

== My Work... Deleted!? ==

i noticed that you deleted my work on the [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]] page.. jw why...
-- Always cheating, never speaking, [[User:The Cheat|The Cheat]]

:[[HRWiki:Once And Only Once]]. Also, we simply don't list parts of things on the main page for something. For example, we don't list every time [[Strong Bad]] has said the word "crap" or made fun of [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:24, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Wikipedia ==

I hope the contacts that didn't happen over on Wikipedia were going to be good ones. Sometimes I worry that a fan is going to leave me messages about how I'm destroying the articles by removing "important information" about every Homsar Halloween Easter egg or some such. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]

== Giving props ==

Tom, you're my hero. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 15:37, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Sweet. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:43, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

::I second that. You're everyone's hero. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::Yay for TOM!!! ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 00:42, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

I don't know why we're cheering, but I'm good for it. '''HOORAY FOR BOX!''' I mean Tom. Hooray for ''Tom.'' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

== Re: huttah! ==

You're right but wrong. You were correct that there was no evidence of a camera in The Cheat's room. However, my comment on the non-revert was due to the fact that the writer essentially plugged a personal comment into the middle of the transcript (which is NOT acceptable); upon seeing that, I admit that I barely read it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:31, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Understood. And you are right. I did not revert back to the writer's version, and did remove the commentary-like style. Thanks Jay.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:30, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Admin nomination ==

I'm not sure what ratio of administrators to users you are planning on maintaining, but I think [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] would make an excellent admin. Consider this a formal nomination. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:15, 26 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Cool, I'll take this into consideration with the other admins. I'll keep you posted[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:57, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Back In The Lab Again ==

How have you been? I have been busy as crap recently. Whats happened with the wiki recently? --[[User:DeLoreanz1|DeLoreanz1]] 14:06, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I'm good, thanks for asking. As for recent things on the Wiki, I suppose the best place to look would be [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]]. We pretty much just keep doing our thing.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:11, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)

Good. I've been playing Yahoo Pool, watching James Bond, and messing with my electronics. --[[User:DeLoreanz1|DeLoreanz1]] 14:23, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Coach Z's Team ==

Can you tell me why [[Coach Z's Team]] was deleted? If we don't need it, why bother having an article for [[On Point Kings]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:20, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Beats me. Of course, the text
::''Coach Z's Team is a team coached by Coach Z, consisting of Homestar Runner and co. It's unknown what sport they play, while played on an football field, it also involves basketball hoops and a baseball being kicked around.''
:is hardly article worthy. So pretty much we know that Coach Z's team is coached by Coach Z and is a team. Was it ever even mentioned in a toon?
:Additionally, if you don't think [[On Point Kings]] is worth the article, you are welcome to bring it up on the respective talk page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:03, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

"text is hardly article worthy"?? I stubed the freakin' page. As being mentioned in a toon, the [[Yearbook Character Page]] is the only reference I could find. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 12:35, 14 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Okay. So you think the page was worth the article?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:47, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

Yes. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 12:22, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I don't. It doesn't provide any information that one couldn't figure out by just watching [[A Jorb Well Done]]. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Yet [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace USA]] doesn't provide any information that one couldn't figure out by just watching [[theme park]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 09:50, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

This was marked and deleted again. Tell you what Trogga, the day we know what sport they play, we will keep the article ;) [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:11, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

== Rock Opera Context Note ==

Tom,

Hello. I hope your day is well.

I disagree with your moving the work left to do on the rock opera context page to the discussion page, for the simple reason that NOBODY will see it there. If it can't be on the main page, then it should be deleted altogether, as it is serving no purpose.

The point of putting up the note was to aid people in knowing which words were still missing and at the same time encourage those die-hard troupers out there to help complete the page (kind of like a game). You know who I'm talking about: that special someone who is gonna figure out exactly which "I" was used from "lackey".

Therefore, I believe the note should be reinstated at the head of the main page. Besides, it's only temporary... just till we get this thing done.

Kind regards, 
[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:58, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I understand and appreciate your concern. However, articles are designed to be read as articles and nothing else. There should never be notes or instructions left for future editors. This is mentioned explicitly in the [[HRWiki:Standards#Don't use conversational style|don't use conversational style]] section of the [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]]. Wiki users, especially the die-hard troupers you mention, know to look at Talk pages. That's what they are for.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

I see your point. I still don't completely like it, but at least I agree with you now. This particular page is close to my heart because I'm the one who set it up and got the ball rolling on filling in the words (although, I'll admit that ''someone'' would have done it eventually). It also happens to be the very first page I've created for the Wiki. I'm so pleased that the community has deemed the page useful and that they're helping to finish it with such vigor. I watch excitedly as each new entry is filled in. (I would do more research myself, but I've got this stupid ''job'' thing where I have to be if I want money. You probably know how that goes.)

Cheers, 
[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:49, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

:No problem. I'll remove the note again. I'd also like to bring to your attention the [[HRWiki:Projects]] page. That might be a better spot for you to put a note.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:10, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

==[[Strong Bad Email By Name]] Tables?==

I've put tables up on the A's and B's section of [[Strong Bad Email By Name]]. What do you think of this? Do you think it's better? Any suggestions as to how the tables should be better? Should I leave it as 'N/A', ''N/A'', 'None', or just leave it blank or something? Any input or blessing would be much appreciated. I'm just gonna leave it there until I get some kinda direction from a higher power (I.E., Mod). Thanks.
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 00:59, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Looks like you got a good respose on [[Talk:Strong Bad Email By Name#Tables|the talk page for the article]]. Looks good.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:26, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Yea, [[User:Jay|Jay]] was a big help. Thanks anyways.
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 00:15, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

==We Need A Mod==

On the H*R updates page, (the main one), I think the disclaimer at the top needs rewording a bit since we now have the navigation box. But it's a protected page. So we can't change it. Can you? It doesn't really need any of those links anymore, since they're all in the box. Thanks.

[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 00:15, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:54, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

== NYU Video ==

I know I probably shouldn't put this on your wiki, but on your website, the link to the NYU video is dead or something. Do you have any advice on how to open it? I was there, but I'd love to see it again! And this way, I won't have to stand outside in the cold for 2 hours holding a yellow sign to get tickets again.

:I just wanted to '''thank you''' for making the video available to us fans! Using your generous torrent and 80 percent of your AVI file, I have put up a [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|preliminary transcript]]. It barely scratches the surface, but it's a start. To the person above (who didn't sign his or her post), check out Tom's instructions [[Talk:NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|here]]. Thanks again, Tom. I really loved what I've seen of your footage of the performance and autograph signing. I hope the screenshots I took do it justice! --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 13:27, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Issac: I think The Paper answered your question, those instructions should be what you need.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:35, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

::The Paper: Hey, the pleasure is all mine. The transcript looks pretty good. I also want to compliment you on your screenshots. How did you manage to get [[:Image:TBC at NYU intro.jpg|this one here]] to look so good on that second try?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:35, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Removing Fun fact ==

I just removed a funfact in [[long pants]] on the basis of it being a repeat apprearance, and already mentioned in the transcript. Why did you re- add it?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 14:38, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:It was a long standing rule not link to articles in a transcript. I see this is not the case in this instance, as [[BMW Lighter]] is linked to from the transcript. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I've reverted my revert.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:43, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:Similar occurences appear on other pages where the lighter is used. Would you like me to remove those fun facts too?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 14:47, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

::I suppose as long as there is a link somewhere in the article there isn't any harm. But make sure the fun facts don't afford any additional information before you remove them. If it's just "The BMW Lighter is in this toon", then it would seem to be alright to remove it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:52, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Redirectetiquette?==

Okay, I changed the links from Sketchbook to [[Museum Sketchbook]], and moved the page there. But I can't seem to move [[Weekly Sketchbook]] to Sketchbook. Is that because it's got the redirect there, in which case do I need to first wipe the Sketchbook page clean, and then move the page there? ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 17:54, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:I'll be interested to see Tom's reply, because I'm pretty sure you can't have both an article and a redirect with the same name. But I also have a question for both of you: Shouldn't the museum sketchbook article be called <nowiki>[[Sketchbook (museum)]]</nowiki>, instead of <nowiki>[[Museum Sketchbook]]</nowiki>? After all, the tab on the file folder just reads "Sketchbook". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:07, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

::Dang, not again. I just don't know. I think it's pretty safe to say that the weekly should just be 'Sketchbook', but yea, the Museum one is kinda 'sketchy', (slight pun intended). Well it's up to you guys, as long as the weekly one gets the 'main title'. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 19:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:::Fixed. See [[Museum Sketchbook]] and [[Sketchbook]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:18, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Edit Conflict Solution? ==

If we delete all pages that have an edit conflict, and then put them back with the same title and content, do you think that might get rid of this Edit Conflict problem? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 07:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:That was one thing I tried, but it didn't work. It doesn't matter now, as it is now fixed by another solution.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:19, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Inappropiate Context? ==
My friend wants to know if [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Other_Character_Email_Strong_Mad/30&oldid=13978 this other character email] on the Fanbase is legal, or if it he would get in trouble if he makes it public. Can you help? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 09:08, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Oh No! [[User:Tom|Tommy's]] Stuck In The Well!==

Well seriously, where else could [[User:Tom|he]] be? [[User:Tom|He]] hasn't been around since the third! Hey [[User:Tom|Tom]], [[User:Tom|your]] questions are stacking up! Hurry up and get out, [[User:Thunderbird L17|w]][[User:FireBird|e]] need [[User:Tom|your]] guidance and wisdom beyond [[User:Tom|your]] years! ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 09:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

== Unnamed Characters ==

Yo, I have something to ask you, Why don't you have a Category for unnamed characters? I was planing on doing some pages for a few people In the background of marshmallows last stand, and they wouldn't have a category!

:I'm thinking there isn't one because we don't need one. And it's not like I'm the one who comes up with these things anyway. It's a wiki. If there's a need for something, anyone can create it following the [[HRWiki:Standards|standards]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== MediaWiki Question ==

Hi Tom:

First, thanks for hrwiki, it rules and I visit at least weekly. If you browse to [http://jfwiki.org my new wiki] you'll see that I've stolen (respectfully appropriated?) some of your excellent help text and another thing or two. Wikisource comments give you props.

But there's something else I want to learn from you: how do you make fundraising or sysop announcements appear across the whole wiki?

Bowing humbly, [[User:spblat|spblat]] 20:42, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Never mind. MediaWiki:Sitenotice [[User:spblat|spblat]] 23:17, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Yup, you got it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Email ==

Whoa! Yes, yes I most assuradly do. Only every two or three days though, and my junk folder even less, due to the unholy ammount of spam I am bombarded with. But I just sifted through, and found it. I also added you to safe list, so all future emails from yourself will be replied to much faster. Come to think of it, I'm gonna go and add all sysop addresses to my safe list. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 01:11, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:15, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Sysop Question==

Hey Tom, I have a question about the new Sysop abilities. Just how do I do the Recentchanges Patrol ability? And what exactly would I be viewing? Aren't edits instantanious? So how do I view them ahead of time? Thanks Tom. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 03:24, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:When you view edits via the RecentChanges page by clicking on the "diff" link, you now have the option to "[Mark as patrolled]". This removes the red exclamation point on the RecentChanges list, alerting other sysops that you've checked out that edit so they don't have to.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:49, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Sweet, That's useful. I was wondering what those red marks were for. Okay, thanks. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 04:06, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::Actually, you can mark a change as patrolled if you are or aren't a sysop. At least, I could. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::::Hey, you're right. The requirement is simply that you are a logged in user.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:25, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::::Oh. Well then... Coun't a troll mark his own change as 'patrolled'? Or are trolls generally just accepted to not be that smart, or have that long of an attention span? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 23:28, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::::::Generally, trolls != smart. But yes, any logged in user could mark any edit as patrolled. Though it's likely that the kind of people that deface articles are not the kind of people who know about the patrolled edit feature.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:45, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Format Help ==

(copying what's on my Talk page) Hi there -erson. I've deleted your "formathelp" Template and Category. If something is formatted incorrectly, just fix it. Notes for future editors like that should not appear in articles, as per the [[HRWiki:Standards|Wiki standards]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:I realise that, however it is I that do not know advanced formating, d would like to keep this notes inthe pages I am planning to make. And shouldnt that *this page requires clanup and revision* template be deleted too as it would be a note to future editors?-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:43, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::[[Help:Editing]] contains all the advanced formatting you should need to make a page. You can also use the [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]] for practice and ask questions and request help from other users (I'd be happy to assist). The Cleanup template isn't really a note to future editors so much as a notice that a page needs work done on it. So there's really no need for the "formathelp" template. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:13, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::What she said.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==MATT?!?!?!==

Oh come on, couldn't you guess I was gonna do that next? I just did a save, and realized that THE EXACT CHANGES were already made. Seriously, what a pointless five minutes. Oh well. You wanna do the final clean up/formatting? ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 23:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:You actually went through and changed them all by hand? Man, that's rough. I just popped the text into TextPad and did a "find and replace all". It's all yours now, help yourself.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:35, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Ah, cut and paste. I thought of the 'find and replace all', but since it isn't in the Wiki I didn't think of it. I just cut and pasted 'att', and then just pointed and Ctr+V'd. But your meathod will be WAY better in the future, thanks. Learn something new everyday I guess... ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 23:39, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Indeed.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:43, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Personal CSS ==

Is it possible to change the size of the logo in one's personal "monobook.css"? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

:Not really. You could hide half of it (or as much as you want) with something like <tt>#p-logo{height:155px;width:6em;overflow:hidden;}</tt>, but I don't think that's what you are looking for. There might be some other solution, but I really can't think of anything right now off of the top of my head.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

== Attention... ==

Tom, have you noticed the conversation going on at [[HRWiki talk:Introduction 2]] yet? I've proposed combining pages 2 and 3 into a single page and posted a [[User:JoeyDay/Introduction 2 mock-up|mock-up]] on my user page. Let me know what you think. — http://joeyday.com/images/wikisig.gif '''[[User:JoeyDay|Joey]]''' ([[User talk:JoeyDay|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/JoeyDay|edits]]) 19:03, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

== Personalized Signatures ==

Since many folks nowadays seem to be personalizing their sigs, I was just wondering: Is sig help covered in an 'HRWiki:' page? If not, should one be made? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 18:42, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

:[[HRWiki:User preferences help#Your nickname]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks. I added a paragraph about changing the signature color, check it out and make changes if you want. I don't think I really explained it perfectly... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 21:42, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

:::I honestly don't think it is necessary. It's something people learn over time. Customizing one's signature shouldn't be that important. And if I may ask, why are you linking to december.com there? Wouldn't the relavent [[Wikipedia:Web colors|Wikipedia article on web colors]] be better?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

::::I fixed the paragraph about signature color so it is valid XHTML 1.0 Strict (just doing my duty as a member of the [[HRWiki:Validation committee|validation committee]]). I also linked to the suggested wikipedia article. — http://joeyday.com/images/wikisig.gif '''[[User:JoeyDay|Joey]]''' ([[User talk:JoeyDay|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/JoeyDay|edits]]) 00:27, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh there it is. I figured there was some kinda wikipedia article on the subject, but I couldn't find it. That was just the site I used, but yea, the wikipedia one is far better. And I know it's not necessary, but I couldn't figure it out, so likely people that come along later won't be able to either. This way they can just turn to the help section, and it's all right there along with a Wikipedia color scheme. Thanks guys. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 07:11, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==Trogga==

[[User:FireBird|We]] have a problem with Trogga. He's been making alot of edits that boarder on Trolling. Just look at his [[User talk:Trogga|talk page]] and you'll [[Special:Contributions/Trogga|see what we mean]]. Make no mistake about it, he does make good edits too, but a large chunk of them are mass deletions of text. So what should we do? Is another big deletion grounds for blocking? Or should we continue to follow him around undoing his... overzealousness? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 01:22, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

:I know Joey has threatened to block him before. I know he makes some good edits, so just be careful we don't lose a good editor. If you feel he should be blocked, just make sure you give him fair warning (which I guess you have already) and keep it short (24h).[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Copywritten Reply==

[[Talk:Tastes Like Chicken Interview|Check it out]]. Ask and thou shalth recieve. He said to let him know either way, so should I just email back, thank him for his offer, and accept it? (I'm also gonna get to all the other interviews over the next couple days, start writing some letters...) ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 05:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

:Hey, something is better than nothing. Yeah, you should email him back and kindly accept with our gratitude. Just make sure you include all your emails back and forth on the discussion page. Good work![[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

::Do you have time for a legal question? I was just seeing the R!OT news radio page, that one apparently didn't even come with a website or transcript. Does that fall under 'fair use'? Same question with Wired News Radio. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:16, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

:::For the [[R!OT Radio Interview 1]], the best I could find was a [http://tvulive.com/contact.htm contact form]. I think we are okay with the transcript there, but we could still ask for information regarding the broadcast.
:::The [[Wired News Radio Interview]] has "© Copyright 2005, Lycos, Inc. All Rights Reserved." at the bottom. There's also a "Reprints" link at the top, that leads to [http://www.rsicopyright.com/ics/prc_main/select_usertype.html?prc=3.6289.4462850 a walkthrough] of copyright stuff. You'd want to choose the "All Other Licensing Requests" option there, and fill out that form.
:::Hope that helps.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:48, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Thanks man, that's perfect. One more legal question: Wonkavision. Is that fair use? Seems like reprinting stuff in a magazine that's still for sale wouldn't fall under that, but am I wrong? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 07:06, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

:::::Yeah, regarding the [[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]], I'm thinking that we can't reproduce it for the reasons you mention, but there's no harm in [http://www.wonkavisionmagazine.com/contact.html asking]. I'd also guess the [http://www.livejournal.com/community/homestar_runner/899307.html copy that exists elsewhere] doesn't have permission to be there.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Okay, well thanks for all that info, I'll just keep trying to work out all the legal bugs on that page then. Thanks. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 19:11, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

==pre==

Is there a way to make this formatting have a 'cascading' type result fitting the window, as is usually the case? All I ever get, save manually seperating the paragraph into managable lines, is having the paragraph extend endlessly to the right... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 05:00, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, what you experience is exactly what the <tt><pre></tt> tag is [http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/text.html#h-9.3.4 supposed to do]. Sorry.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:39, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

::Oh okay. But we're still supposed to use this when showing some kind of printed message, such as an email, correct? Because that's what I've been doing with the permission emails for reprintage on the talk pages. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 17:22, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

:::When quoting an email, you should use <code>blockquote</code> instead of <code>pre</code>. We should set up a style so that blockquoted text has a distinct look. Perhaps a bar down the left hand side like you get when replying to an email in Outlook. I've actually been wanting to get away from <code>pre</code> for some time now. I've proposed a change to Strong Bad Emails on the [[Talk:Strong Bad Email#New email format...|Strong Bad Email talk page]]. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:17, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

==SPACL?==

Have you seen [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]] lately, namely this '[[HRWiki:STUFF'd Project Activities Control League|SPACL]]' thing? Is this sanctioned at all? It doesn't really seem to fit into the wiki as a 'NPOV' type place at ALL. [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]], a user who's only been around a few months, and whom I've never even HEARD OF, has seemed to claim ownership of it as well, which really isn't a Wiki thing to do. I mean, not even Joeyday does much without a joint decision. I don't want to delete it or anything in case it is sanctioned, but I really think this needs a total overhaul at least, if not total deletion. Can't this thing just be covered under the [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts|STUFF]] page, or it's talk page? This is really starting to turn this Wiki into the direction of the Fanstuff one, something I really wouldn't want to see... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 19:20, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

:Eep. I don't that's what Joey had in mind, and it looks like he is taking care of it on the [[HRWiki talk:STUFF'd Project Activities Control League|talk page]] over there. Thanks for the heads up Thunderbird.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:33, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

==STUFF reform==
Hey, Tom. I've got a page I'd like you to check out. [[User:It's dot com/STUFF reform]]. It took me a long time to create it, and I would value your input. (You can use the talk page there.) Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:01, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry, but [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts#I don't think we need STUFF anymore|I don't think we need STUFF anymore]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
== Importante!! Importante!! ==
OK TOM! I give up! Everybody's been flicking my ear about some typa spyware or something on my computer that ''I've'' personally never seen a lick of. If what you say is true, do you, or anyone else, know how to '''DELETED''' the ware?
Your whatever,
[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
P.S. Everyone's been saying that it mangles pages. So sorry for mangling any pages.

:Who has been bothering you about this? Everybody? What ''I'' say is true? What are you talking about?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:01, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

::I can't edit my user page and alot of other stuff because whenever I click "edit", The screen says "USER IS BLOCKED. YOU HAVE BEEN BLOCKED BY TOM. HE SAYS THAT YOU HAVE SPYWARE THAT MANGLES PAGES. PLEASE CONTACT TOM." or something like that. So its been mostly you, but once in a blue moon, it pops from someone like Jay or someone else popular or important *sob*. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

:::Not exactly that. We don't use all capital letters in any of our site notices. It sounds like you are seeing the [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext|blocked notice]]. You see that part there that says "Your IP address is [your IP address here]. Please include this address in any queries you make." Yeah, I need your IP address to fix the problem. Or at least determine what's going on.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:17, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

::::He had a different complaint about some "dollar" deal that happened a while back... I think his IP address might be ever-shifting, but since I don't know what his IP address is... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:22, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Okay now. Just before I tell you my IP address, how do you find out your IP address (sorry, I've only been on HRWiki for 2 months or so, and I'm still trying to adapt and learn all thems weird whatsamajiggies you's abeen saying (like ''IP Address'')).

:There are multiple ways to go about it. One easy way would just be to log out and look at the upper-right corner of any page here on the Wiki, and it will tell you. Or you could go through your computer's settings. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:39, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

::It should be a seven or eight digit number or so, seperated by two periods. E.g: 43.202.18 or something. and Jay's right, the best way to find it is just sign out, and look on the top right of the wiki, or even just after signing out, leave a comment here that includes: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki>, Which is four little wavy signs that will be on the top left of your keyboard. (Likely 'Shift' + The top left button below esc). Are those instructions any better? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:50, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Actually it will be four numbers of up to three digits each - anything from 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255. But I'm a Comp Sci major who studied IP addresses as part of one of my classes last semester. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:21, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Jay and Thunderbird: IP addresses consist of 32 bits. A single bit is a one or a zero. IPv4 addresses are commonly expressed as a dotted quad, four octets (8 bits) separated by periods. Read [[Wikipedia:IP address|IP address]] for more information.
::::Cheatachu72: Try [http://www.ipchicken.com/ ipchicken.com].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:29, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

:::::Uh, yes, I know. I was just trying to explain what it would look like. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:46, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

::::::I didn't. Very... Interesting. Thanks guys. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} (Check Out My New And Improved Userpage! Comment On How To Make It Better!)

:::::::Sorry Jay, I didn't mean to imply that you didn't know. I just like putting the info out there. Oh, and I missed your last comment there. Whoops.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

== Banned? ==

Wow, Tom, you really were my favorite moderator right up until there. Why did you ban me? Do you not like me? Is ramrod the only person who fits your standards, and JelloB?--[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:22, 23 May 2005 (CDT)

== 70.92.150.43 ==

This guy is making quite a mess today. Can you ban him? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

:Done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:48, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks! But why only 72 hours? This is the 2nd time he's done this. If this isn't grounds for a permanent ban, I don't know what is! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:51, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Quite sadly, there's no such thing as a permanent ban. We can ban a particular IP address indefinitely, but ISPs assign users new IP addreses frequently, especially on dial-up. Banning any IP indefinitely is just as likely to block out legitimate users who inherit the blocked IP sometime down the road as it is to keep the troll from coming back. This is why we rarely use indefinite blocks. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 17:42, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

:I agree that guy's done too much damage. We've spent half an hour cleaning up after him. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]

== Yep, it's me ==

Is Tom the head of this place? I just became a user, and I want to put this right. PUT WAGON FULLA PANCAKES IN THE RIGHT PLACE. Really, i'm not stopping until it's done, make it a character, do you see a label on the Wagon Fulla Pancakes that makes him eatable? I don't. Please fix this, I don't know this formatting hullabaloo, but you sure do, so could you help me here? P.S. How do I make links from stuff? -Dinoshaur

:Excuse me? I don't understand.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:52, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Here's a question ==
On the new main page, do you know where the List of registered users is? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 17:52, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

:Nowhere. Try [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

== [[Mellow Mushroom]] ==

Tom, how do you [[Talk:Main_Page#More_interwiki_links.3F|know]] TBC only did the animation on MM? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 19:23, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

:They certainly don't make pizzas or own any part of the Mellow Mushroom company. They were hired to do the website. And if my memory serves me correctly, I think Matt did some radio commercials for them too. Why do you ask?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:30, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I know they only did the website, but why do you say the toons aren't written by TBC? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The toon that is on the site is pathetic. I hold TBC in too high a regard to say that they wrote it. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Trogga: Were the toons written by The Brothers Chaps?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Maybe. Why don't you ask [mailto:jeff@mellowmushroom.com this guy]? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Have you asked him already? Why don't you?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:30, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Mustachioed Homestar==
Why not have a separate page for this guy, at least temporarily? There are two Homstars visible which TBC made sure were different. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:31, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:From what I can tell, there is an article currently at [[Mustachioed Homestar Runner]]. Perhaps a better place to voice your concerns would be the [[Talk:Mustachioed Homestar Runner|respective talk page]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:58, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Banned? ==

Have you gone mad? [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 23:18, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:No.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:52, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::If you haven't, then why did you ban me from the IRC chat this time? Was it for inactivity? [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 03:06, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::No, you were not banned because of inactivity. You were banned because you annoy me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::And how do I annoy you? [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 23:23, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::::Seriously, man, this has gone on way too long. Please unban me. I don't even know why I annoy you. [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 04:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::::=Man, you threaten me for banishment, and you kick people off for annoying you! I'm going to report your threat to a more respected adminestrator and have you kicked off, You make me sick! In the past you have been helpful, what kind of twisted guy are you?=

==Balding Man's Living Room==

Why was that page baleeted? I thought it would be useful to create, but I guess not. Any reason why? [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 05:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You'll probably want to delete the corresponding screenshot with the page; without the page it's useless. I'll go ahead and tack a tobedeleted on the screenshot. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 05:07, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Homsar999: I didn't delete the page. You can check the [[Special:Log/delete|deletion log]] to see that [[User:FireBird|FireBird]] did. [[User:Trogga|Trogga]] marked it for deletion, probably because all it contained was "Balding Man's Living Room is where Balding Man lives. It is first seen in Senorial Day. We have yet to see the rest of his house." All I did was remove the links to the page from the rest of the Wiki.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:48, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::If it's because of content, then [[Ted Kotsaftis]] might as well be deleted and un-linked, as well. [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 03:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::As I mentioned earlier, I did not delete the page. Please take this up with [[User:FireBird|FireBird]] and [[User:Trogga|Trogga]]. The [[Ted Kotsaftis]] article is a stub with plenty of room to expand. Ted has worked on graphic design for [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Ted+Kotsaftis&filter=0 several other projects]. The room the Balding Man was in doesn't have the same potential. Why do you think this article would be useful?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:30, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== More Fanstuff Sysops ==
Do you think you and the other big admins could get a fanstuff sysop nomination going for the Fanstuff Wiki? There are only two active sysops there as of right now, and they get overwhelmed occassionally. For example, someone made a page that insulted a user and had profanity in the page title alone. Although several users find about it quickly and marked if for deletion, it stayed around for about two weeks before one of the sysops found it. It took even longer for the creator of the page to be banned. So... yeah, many users think more sysops are needed. Thanks for considering this, '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''.

:Okay. Consider it done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm a sysop! Hooray! Um, am I going to be the only new sysop, or am I supposed to set up a nominations page? -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 22:59, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:You're it. Good luck.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:02, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No nominations? Okay. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:08, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Sig ==
What does <code><nowiki>[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]</nowiki></code> do in your signature? I've wondered for a while. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:57, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I've had that there since the very beginning, when we starting using MediaWiki back in 1.3 beta. When I leave a comment, it allows me to put my four tildes right after the period. I could figure out how to do it differently with the new features in 1.4, but I'm kind of used to it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:57, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Deleters==
How do you become someone who deletes useless articles? And what's a "Sysop"?

: You sorta answered your own question - sysops are the people who delete articles, as well as block abusive users. JoeyDay and Tom select the sysops, but the last time they did, all but one of the new sysops were nominated on a special page by regular users. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm not asking you, Jay. And even though you responded, you didn't answer the question! I was talking to Tom!

:Umm, yes he did answer both of your questions. The first one is answered by ''"JoeyDay and Tom select the sysops"'', and the second question with ''"sysops are the people who delete articles, as well as block abusive users"''. '''Anyone''' can answer a question set on a talk page, even if they were not the intended reciever of that comment. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:29, 10 June 2005 (BST)

:: It's a Wiki -- anyone can respond on any talk page. And Jay's answer is correct. To continue the answer, however, the way you get nominated / chosen for a sysop is by making significant, useful edits (like undertaking large formatting projects) and showing good judgement in both your own edits and in dealing with other wiki-users. Reverting from trolls is also a good thing to do. It only happens when the existing admins are looking for new ones, which I'm guessing won't be for quite some time. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:33, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Speak in English Homestar Coder!

:What part didn't you understand? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

All of it!

:Very sorry, but I think the problem is on your end, not mine. Maybe Babelfish would be of assistance? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:42, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::That's the same thing you said when I told you all the reasons I wasn't keeping your "Message Board" page. With all due respect, is ''your'' first language English? I understood Aurora just fine. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:43, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::Aurora, Venusy, and Jay are right. Sanjuro, I don't know exactly what you didn't understand about what Aurora said, but I just got and replied to your email. If there is anything you need further clarification on, do not hesitate to ask.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:45, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Tom, what is wrong with me making a Message Board like the ones on AOL, where other members can feel free to post friendly messages with other members?

And Jay, how long did it take you to realize that it was I, Sanjuro/Balmung, whom was posting these messages?

: I knew it from the start - I've been following this discussion from [[Special:Recentchanges]], where it puts your user name or IP address next to every edit you make. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:: In addition, your name is listed in the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Tom&action=history page history] of this page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::Sanjuro, this is the Homestar Runner Wiki, a collaborative knowledge-base dedicated to collecting and organizing as much information as possible about [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]]. This is not a place for you to have a personal message board. This is not AOL. This is not your website.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I hate you Jay. So don't talk to me![[User:Sanjuro|Tim-E- Dee]] 22:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Look out Sanjuro, here comes the [[Heavy Lourde]]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Sanjuro, please do not edit or remove other people's comments.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:13, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Tom, Tomstiff's comment isn't reasonable and is offensive.

:Sigh. Y'all have shown remarkable patience. I'd have put the hammer down on this ... ''person'' ... long ago! My compliments! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:18, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I am sick and tired of you Tomstiff.

:So telling Jay you hate him and demanding that people "Speak English!" isn't offensive? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:23, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Sanjuro, I'd like to question your partiality in evaluating tomstiff's comment, when only two minutes before you expressed on this very page your hatred for another user. Wasn't your comment offensive?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::Sanjuro, my comment earlier was in no way an attempt to be offensive! It was merely an amusing way to warn you that expressing hatred towards another member of this community usually brings about a ban. If I offended you in any way, please, ''please'' forgive me! I remain, as ever, your wiki friend -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:28, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Don't talk to me like that Tom. I can, and will, track you down.

:Heh heh. I'm laughing at your petty threat. You better watch out, because in the past we've blocked people for threating others and making personal attacks. Consider this a formal warning.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:30, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Tomstiff, I found NOTHING amusing WHAT-SO-EVER about that comment of yours.[[User:Sanjuro|Tim-E- Dee]] 22:34, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Ooh, but ''I'' do. This is better than television. Somebody make the popcorn! Seriously, though—and I mean this with all friendliness possible—you're playing with fire here. I'm just a user, so I'm not warning you, just giving advice. Be careful. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:38, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Look, Sanjuro, you could be a great, useful Wiki-member, or you could bash, insult and threaten other members. The first would be nice, and the second will just get you banned and mocked. As Captain Planet would say, the choice is yours! (Wow, Tom, your talk page is too long, Clanky!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:43, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::OK, why is my sig appearing in a "pre" box? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:45, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::It sure is Aurora. I feel so loved. Oh, and it's the space after the newline.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::Maybe you should make a talk archive like some other users do. Oh, and thanks for fixing my sig ineptness. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:48, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::::No way. A long talk page is the coolest. And no problem, 'twas a common hard-to-spot mistake.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::::As long as we're all here, Tom, what did you mean yesterday when you said to hold off on the STUFF stuff? And I'm still curious about my question in the section right above this one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

Sanjuro is obviously upset that his work, although not useful, was unceremoniously trashed. He is expressing his anger in the wrong way, in my opinion, but it's at least understandable. I think he put <code><nowiki>{{tobedeleted}}</nowiki></code> on his user page in haste. Did it have to be deleted right away? If not, is there an undelete feature? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:54, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Oh, sure, it's easy to undelete. The entire old history has been saved. I wouldn't have done it if that were not the case (mostly because I have a feeling he thinks that those comments are gone forever). <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:57, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Yes, that's right. If necessary, a sysop can restore any version of any deleted page at any time. Only image deletion is permanent. However, the user in question's work on the aforementioned page was not unceremoniously trashed. It did not belong anywhere in the context of this project and was dealt with accordingly.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:59, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Oh, and It's dot com: Would you care to join me in the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|IRC channel]] to discuss the matter of STUFF? If not, I can reply here.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:01, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::I know it was dealt with accordingly, but ''to him'' his hard work was suddenly gone. I'm not defending the page, or even the user, I'm just saying we should let him cool down before granting his request to delete his user page altogether. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::IRC, eh, Tom? I saw one o' thems once. I'll head on over there now. Aurora, are you coming? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

This website is SO AWESOME! But I think that you guys shouldtake it easy on Sanjuro. By the sound of things (from which I read) all of your comments just made him more frustrated. Watch what you type to this member, cause it just might make him even MORE frustrated.
And Aurora, Captain Planet says "The power is yours", not "The choice is yours". No offense though.

:Ah, I had a feeling I would botch that quote, hehehe. Well, my point still stands. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Botch? What does that mean Aurora?

:Botch = to make a mistake or ruin something. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:45, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

So what happened here with Sanjuro? And... Where is he?

Okay. Who is this [[User:Balmung of Azure Sky]] member?[[User:Sanjuro|Tim-E- Dee]] 23:52, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Is anyone out there?

That depends on your definition of "is"

:I'm really sorry, but just ''reading'' through all this made me tired. I think everyone involved needed to have a rest. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Okay you. Where's Tom and Aurora? Tell me NOW! Cause I aient playing no games, I mean bussiness!

I'm sorry. Your request cannot be answered at this time. Please try again later, or leave a message after the tone.

Tom, Aurora? How DARE you ignore The GREAT Sanjuro?

:They aren't online right now. Calm down. Fix some hot cocoa and take some deep breaths. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 00:36, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Actually, I am online. Hot cocoa does sound good though. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::Well ''now'' you are. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 00:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::Chocolate? where? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Mmmm... Hot cocoa. I haven't had some of that stuff in a LLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG time!

Aurora? Are you still on?

== Deletion on my account please! It's too raw! ==

Yo Tom! What's up? I need you to do me a little favour. My accounts Sanjuro and Balmung? Yeah. Can you delete them? Thanks [[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]] 02:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC) P.S. [[User:Balmung]] not to be confused with [[User:Balmung of Azure Sky]]

:Tim, after reviewing the database, I can clearly see that you currently you have three accounts:
:#[[User:Balmung]] (user_id 788)
:#[[User:Sanjuro]] (user_id 789)
:#[[User:Balmung of Azure Sky]] (user_id 2001)
:The use of [[Wikipedia:Internet sock puppet|sock puppet]] accounts is highly discouraged. However, I will not delete any of these accounts, since an accurate article edit history record must be maintained. As I'm sure you can see, the user page for the first two accounts has already been deleted per your previous request. If you would like to put any other pages up for deletion, use the <nowiki>{{tobedeleted}}</nowiki> template tag.
:I recommend that you use one and only one of those accounts from this point forward.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Sanjuro...are you also [[User:Son Goku]]? If so please don't aquire any more accounts...that aint cool man. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:01, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Me? Son Goku? (L'sOL!) No way! That's my younger brother! We only have one computer that WE can use so if I'm to show him something, I have to Log Off so he can Log On!
[[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]] 19:10, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hmm i ''guess'' that proves me wrong. I just thought it was odd that your little brother would sign on, create a user page then within a few seconds you correct him online...but then again i'm weird.

What do you mean Tony Stony?

Its none of my business is what I mean...I just thought it weird. Btw it is possible to sign your posts with 4 tildes. Comme ca: [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:25, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah! It looks like you're doing like in your posts! You see: ~3x Is your siggy. and ~4x Is your siggy with time of posting. A like so.
[[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]] 3x...
[[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]] 19:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) 4x!
So much for "Three times is a charm" huh?
[[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]] 19:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

And five displays just the date. Learn something new everyday... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} And just the date: 01:42, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== STUFF stuff ==
Afternoon, Tom. I've been busy all morning closing out old STUFF discussions. I have a little ways to go, though. Also, I wonder if we could speak more about how the page should be redesigned before anything major is done to it. Put a note on my [[User_talk:It's dot com|talk page]] and I'll meet you in the IRC. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Sure.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:27, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm back, as promised. Are you around? I'm monitoring the IRC. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Hey Tom. I am making good progress:
:*[[HRWiki:stuff test1|A mock-up article]]
:*[[Template:STUFF/stuff test1|The resulting STUFF subpage]]
:*[[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts/stuff_test3|The index (which will become the STUFF main page)]]
:*Plus all the templates so far

:Yet to do:
:*Organize/polish the instructions
:*Create the templates for closed facts
:*Have other users test the ease of use
:*Convert current items to new format

:The hardest part isn't figuring out how this will work. The hardest part isn't even figuring out how to streamline the process to minimize keystrokes and errors. No, the hardest part is figuring out how to explain it so that novices can understand.

:I was hoping to go live today, but I see that ''that's'' not going to happen. Now I'm hoping to go live by midweek. (Right this second, however, I'm hoping to go get some good sleep.) Let me know how you think it's going. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Update: Getting very close now. I've just about nailed it all down. That's enough for tonight... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:16, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::You seem like you've got everything under control. If you need me for anything specific, let me know. Good work.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:13, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The main format is ready to go live. We are in the [[HRWiki:stuff test index|public testing stage]] now. Once we work out any bugs, all that will remain will be to convert the existing facts to the new format. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:35, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Seriously. ==

Unban me from the IRC chat. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 00:05, 21 Jun 2005 (CDT)

== Admin Nomination ==

I'm sure we're not looking for any new sysops after this thing in April, but I think [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] would be a great sysop. He seems to be working harder around here than any of us sysops anyways, and he always seems to have good judgement. I'd love to have him on the team. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 22:47, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I can't remember the specific instance, but in the last day or so I've thought to myself, "Isn't BazookaJoe an admin?", so whatever was going on at the time must have been good. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:17, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::I always forget that he ''isn't'' an admin, because he uses the same "reverted from (whoever) to last version from (whoever)" message. I guess he types it in manually... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 00:29, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::True, but he has only been around for a little over two months. There are some users that have been around significantly longer that I think are also deserving of sysopness. I do like the guy, and would be happy if he became a sysop, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Admins leave it a few months yet before opening another Nomination Window. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:46, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Question ==

On the picture of you are you the one on the left or right I'm guessing you're on the right because the left one looks not happy, but it doesn't look like matt because of the hair.

:I'm in the Duck Shirt and jacket. [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] (not [[Matt Chapman|Matt]]) is in the red shirt with the scarf.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:37, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::And it isn't that Mike is unhappy... He apparently just takes [[User:DaChazman|bad pictures]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:16, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for answering my question guys, and uh that link to bad pictures looks like Matt is wearing that same shirt as the picture on this page.

:Yeah, they were taken less than five minutes apart at the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|NYU Talk on Mar 1, 2005]]. In fact, you can actually see a bit of my head in the background of DaChazman's photo.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:57, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Forum namespace ==

How come there's not a convenient external namespace for the forum? You know, so that <nowiki>[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=XXXX] could be replaced with [[Forum:XXXX]]</nowiki>, or something similar. How's our bandwidth lookin'? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:04, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:That's not a bad idea, I'll look into that. Though you should probably remind me after next Monday. Our bandwidth is still looking, but I think we are down to the final hours here.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:04, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Will do. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:::Here is the reminder you requested. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:17, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::Done. Example: <nowiki>[[Forum:15|thread 15]]</nowiki> becomes [[Forum:15|thread 15]]. Oh, and just so I remember for next time, they are interwiki links, not namespaces.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:52, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== On the wiki ==

I'm working on the transcripts as fast as I can... what, do you think I eat, sleep, and breathe Homestar Runner... don't answer that. ;) Seriously, we're working on them. But having Mike mention that he read something on our wiki has got to be the ultimate prize for us. It's like, poring over all the crazy details that we do has, in a small but significant way, paid off. I think we should permit ourselves in this case to announce it in big, bold letters. Or at least in italics. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:What?!?! Where 'bouts was this? First I've heard of it. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:17, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::The [[animal]] commentary. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 03:19, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::Yup.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:20, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::Wow, awsome! Kudos to [[Special:Contributions/66.120.157.219|66.120.157.219]], the one who originally left the Compound Eyes fun fact. He never really made all that many edits, but who would have guessed it was one of the most important edits of all... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:06, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Goofs vs. Typos ==

"Goofs" are mistakes TBC make; for the purposes of our discussion, ''Strong Sad'' made these mistakes. We don't note mistakes Strong Bad makes in his emails as Goofs; rather, we note them in the Remarks. Since there were enough of Strong Sad's mistakes for a whole section, I changed it to "Typos". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:07, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I'm not really the guy who would know the difference. I only made that change for two reasons:
:#"Typos" isn't one of the ways we categorize Fun Facts. [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts|Goofs is]].
:#The Francis Scott Key fact is a Goof. I knew it wasn't a typo, so I changed the header to Goofs for lack of a better choice for that particular grouping.
:That being said, the Key fact is probably the only one of the four that are currently under that header that really is a Goof. The typos by Strong Sad should probably be moved to another section. Maybe Remarks?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:35, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Goofs may be our standard category, but we are flexible enough to accomodate a special category on a toon-by-toon basis. For example, [[50_emails#Homestar.27s_attempts_at_DELETED|Homestar's attempts at Deleted]]. I think these should be grouped together since there are several of them. How about "Strong Sad's Goofs", or "Strong Sad's Mistakes", or something similar? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:42, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::I think we should ask [[User:Jay|Jay]]. He's the Keeper-Tracker.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:59, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I think I'll just copy the discussion from 22:42 on up over to the article's talk page. Then, everyone can have a say. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:08, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::Sounds good to me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:10, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

''(see [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament#Goofs vs. Typos|Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]] for more)''

== You are appreciated ==

I was looking over your talk page, and it's been way too long since someone wrote to tell you thanks for all the work and maintenance you put into the site. Thank you! I was propted to tell you this today when I saw that, simply by my uploading an image, you created a new template to replace the makeshift GFDL blurb I had on the image; created a new category for other existing, similar images; and then sought out those five other images that should be in the category and added the template there as well—all within the blink of an eye! I would hope that we all make the wiki experience a little better for those around us, and I must say you certainly do that. And then some. Sincerely, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:Hey, you're welcome. It's my pleasure.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:33, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Defacement? ==

What, did you think I made up that picture of the Trogdor beanie? I'm not that skilled with Photoshop. Check the Store before you assume defacement. ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:59, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah. I tried to fix it but you beat me to it. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:00, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::No probalo. I thought it was defacement too but decided to check the Store on a whim, and lo and behold... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:02, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Patrolled Fanstuff ==
Hey, can you edit ''LocalSettings.php'' section of the fanstuff to get rid of those red "patrolled" explanation points in the recent changes there? We really don't need or want them. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:Before I do anything, I'd like to see the discussion that took place when deciding this. Where is it?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:20, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh, well that's a problem. It was on a poll on the second Fanstuff Forum, which is offline for an indefinite amount of time. (it seems that its host quit) I'll create a new poll if you want me to, but I don't think that's nessecary. But if you go there and look at the recent changes, you'll see red exclamation points as far as the eye can see. We don't use them. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:Done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:52, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Vugarity==
I went on the all user list page and I noticed that there were alot of vulgar term and slang. Can you clear this up Sincerly former user vile.exe

:Yeah, I'm going to have to do that. Note to self: do that soon.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:20, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==I'm back==
I former vandel[I was the guy who defiled trogdor and charectars a couple monthes ago thanks for unblocking me I have changed my ways don't ban me I am a good guy I swear] current editor and megaman fan [[User:Vile.exe]] have returned.Drop me a line on my talk page for proof.

:Okay.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:07, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Banned. Again. Again. ==

OK, Tom, ''please'' tell me why I am banned this time. Are you having a bad day? --[[User:Homsar999|HomsarAnnoyed]]

== Fanstuff ==

'Scuse me, but I can't get into the Fanstuff wiki. It just shows 404'd every time. What's up with that? It was working a few seconds ago... --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 18:31, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Whoops. On it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:34, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Fixed. [[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:46, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff wiki ==

Can you please, PLEASE, unlock the Fanstuff wiki? [[User:H*R 700|H*R 700]]

:If you bothered to check, you'd see it has already been unlocked.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:23, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, thank you. [[User:H*R 700|H*R 700]]

== FINALLY!! ==
TOM! TOM! It's over! I can edit stuff! You can remove the notice! [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

:Did you read the notice? Have [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice&oldid=143018 a look].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:30, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Favourite User Award Winner==

Congrats [[User:Tom|Tom]]

''You have won the favourite user award for this week.''

'''Here is your trophy'''

[[Image:fav user awards.PNG]]

From your ''HRwiki'' friend,{{User:Pertmywert/sig}}

''If you would like to view the older winners please go'' [[User:Pertmywert/fuawinners|''here'']]''.''

== Personal JavaScript ==

I got a little curious and decided to check out your user JavaScript. What exactly does it do? I tried copying it into my own personal JS, but I didn't see any changes in the preview. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 21:30, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:It duplicates the links for the tabs at the top of every page on the bottom. I think you might have to have accompanying personal CSS to style it. That should be in my user CSS somewhere.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:38, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Judging by your CSS, it seems that way, so that would explain why I didn't see any change - thanks. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 22:02, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::No problem.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:03, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==HI!!!==
i love u
-fhqwhgadshgnsdhjsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf

:Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:54, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Ooooh, quite the pairing. A 35 letter name with a 3 letter name. I can see sparks flying already. Or is that just my avian thunder...?

== A thankyou ==

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2. Thanks for sorting out an embarrassing mix-up with "hide patrolled edits", and not noticing someone else had already reverted the vandalism I was trying to revert. Still trying to get the hang of this Wiki thing ;)
--[[User:Tigz|Tigz]] 22:38, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:No problem.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:12, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Note from Thechamp==

Hello, Tom. My name is The champ, please forgive my past Trolling for it was my brother who commited the crime. I left the states for a month or so during this period and had no access to a comp. where I was staying in Canada. I rebuked my brother for his crimes and hope that you may forgive him, I am sory.

Sincerely,
[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 22:10, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Okay.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:10, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, I am sory, again. He didn't mean any harm by talkin to the trolls, he hates it when people start skrewin with thing that people work hard on. -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 01:30, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Help, Please==
How do I add pictures to articles? -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 13:09, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:See [[Help:Editing#Images]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== I found a troll! ==
66.82.9.39 is the IP address. It was a troll in the fanstuff wiki. Battle of Homestar High. [[User:Seek Bar|DonZabu]]

:Which of [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&hideminor=0&namespace=&target=66.82.9.39&limit=100&offset=0 their edits] are you talking about?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:16, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== It was a joke, not a defacing ==

dude?

:Thechamp, I'm assuming you are referring to my recent deletion of a discussion page (Talk:No Loafing Sign) you started that simply contained "You heard um, No loafing!". Your edit was defacement. Discussion pages exist to discuss articles and their content, not for you to attempt to make jokes or be funny. As such, taking into consideration your previous behavior on the Wiki, especially your edits in the past day and your failure to heed my three direct warnings, you have been blocked from editing for ten days.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:13, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Bannination ==
OK, can I please be unbanned from the HRWiki chat? --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar]]

== Apology ==

Hello. I am very sorry for what happened a year ago. You might not remember. But, I ruined the Commentary Transcript for Experimental Film. I just want to say that I am sorry. I used to be known as [[User:210.49.167.191|210.49.167.191]]. -[[User:mitchell00|Mitchell00]] 07:21, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Okay.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:59, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Update Marker==
Hey Tom! I was just wondering what that Update Marker is for. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 17:20, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:It's a new feature in [[HRWiki:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.5|MediaWiki 1.5]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:29, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 17:30, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== delete Bkmlb ==

Hi Tom! It's kind of annoying to have a period at the end of my name, so could you please delete [[User:Bkmlb]]? If I remember correctly, I think he was a troll impersonator.--{{User:Bkmlb./sig}} 17:26, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:30, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you, very much.--{{User:Bkmlb./sig}} 17:31, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== How do you... ==

How do you get on to the old wiki? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:What information do you need from it?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:24, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, I just wanted to check it out, if thats alright with you and JoeyDay. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} Not logged in.

:The old Wiki is not easily available. What information do you need from it?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:42, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, okay. I don't have to go there. I just wanted to see the users, and all that stuff. But, anyways, us at the fanstuff wiki want 1 of our 4 Admins, to be come a Burecrate. Most people think Rainer's the best choice. Tom, can you make one of our Admins, a Burecrate? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:No, not at this time.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:45, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Alright. [[User:216.55.218.23|216.55.218.23]]
:Eh, don't listen to him. :P We were just considering it; many people haven't even voiced their opinion yet. (And honestly, I never expected you to do it anyway.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:59, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Changing Names ==

Hey, I know I bug you alot, but there always a reason. Anyways, can you make a changing names page one the Fanstuff Wiki? I want to change my name, really badly. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:There already is one. See [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki:Changing username]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:47, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Commend...a..tion? ==

I have to say that you are the man, and I would like to commend you for making your edits and changing everyone's usernames. You rock, man. --[[User:Daunrealist|daunrealist]] 19:16, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:35, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

::I'm just wondering, when do you think the next Admin nomination will be? I was thinking of nominating someone (not me), but is it annually, biannually, or what? --[[User:Daunrealist|daunrealist]] 21:06, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:::When it's necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Cool. --[[User:Daunrealist|daunrealist]] 02:06, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== April Fools Name Change ==

I know it's a while off, but I just thought I'd ask know. Would I be allowed to have my username changed for April Fools, and then have it changed back the next day? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 06:48, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

:No.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:35, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

==What the?==
Why'd you block [[User:68.39.179.135]]? He wasn't trolling. He was just behaving a little newbish. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:Because of the edits he made on [[Image talk:homestarquiz.PNG]], [[Talk:Tee Bee]], and [[Image talk:stinkogamethumb.png]]. And did I say anywhere that he was trolling?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:13, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

::That seems harsh for someone who seemed to be trying to contribute honestly. Maybe a warning about what sort of behavior is okay would have been better? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:17, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Unblocked. Feel free to warn.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:20, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

On the other hand, is 24 hours enough for someone who is being disruptive and should know better? ([[User:Billy Bob Bob|Billy Bob Bob]]) I was gonna block him till the weekend before Coder beat me to it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool, thanks Tom. If you want to up that ban, Ben, then that's fine with me. I just usually do 24 hours for a first offender. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:26, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

::Then I'll leave it like it is. But if he yells and makes personal attacks again... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:28, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Invitations ==
So, what's up with these invitations-to-anonny's-to-create-accounts dealies? I love the idea; is the concept to extend indiscriminately to all except trolls, or to use in those "Whoa—that was a beneficial edit! Why is this guy an IP?" situations? I ask because [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=24.30.124.162 24.30.124.162] seems to be rather articulate and wikiliterate. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:39, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

:In this case, it was mostly the latter. Though I have to admit, it's not [[User talk:65.25.31.135|the]] [[User talk:69.139.163.12|first]] [[User talk:204.117.94.78|time]] I've done it.
:The person you mention there, if I'm not mistaken, is [[Wikipedia:User:Metaeducation]]. They actually caused a tiny ruckus on Wikipedia back in May 2005 that involved a HRWiki template thing. See [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Deleted/May 2005#Template:Hrwiki]] and [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Not deleted/June 2005#Template:Memoryalpha]] for some details. (And I wish we could still get at the conversation found at [[Wikipedia:Special:Undelete/Template talk:Hrwiki|Template talk:Hrwiki]] where Joey and I questioned the template, but we can't.)[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:59, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
::Holy cow. So does the fact that the template doesn't exist mean it ''was'' deleted? And are we a sister wiki? Meanwhile, is inviting anonnys strictly a sysop thing, or can anyone? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:17, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Yes, the Hrwiki template was deleted, the link is for the discussion that occured prior to its deletion. The Memoryalpha one was not, that is the discussion that occured prior to the decision to keep. We are not a sister wiki to Wikipedia. We have nothing to do with the [[Wikipedia:Wikimedia|Wikimedia Foundation]] or any of its projects. Our Wiki runs on the same software, [[Wikipedia:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]], but that's pretty much where it ends. As for inviting, it's a wiki, I encourage you to '''be bold'''.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:47, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

== 64.9.51.190 ==

Hey, Tom. I was just wondering why you ended up blocking IP 64.9.51.190. I looked at what happened, and it turns out that his addition to [[H*R.com updates]] was correct. There is a new quote, fan stuff, and sketch book. You probably found or saw something that I didn't, so you probably have a very legitement reason. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:49, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

:Fixed already. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:50, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

::I kept reverting his work 'cause in my eyes I didn't think that we'd need that on there. Plus he kept on changing it. -- [[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]]

:::But that page is our listing of all Homestar Runner updates, why wouldn't what he added belong there?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:23, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

== I can't find the IRC chat... ==

Where's it at?
[[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]]

:Please see [[HRWiki:IRC channel]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:24, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks man. -- [[User:Sanjuro|Sanjuro/Balmung]]

==Emails==
just wondering, what were the context of the emails that RHRN sent you? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:52, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

:Nah, it's not worth it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:57, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Something tells me that I should be thanking you for that. A lot. Thanks anyway. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== unlocking uploading ==

Okay Tom, here's my problem. I am a bureaucrat at the [http://ebwiki.spoonybard.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Eskimo Bob Wiki] and we just moved to new software. The uploading is locked. How do I unlock it?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 12:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, we need to know soon. Theres alot of blank images, and we REALLY need to fix that. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

::Who upgraded the software? Did they reconfigure LocalSettings.php correctly? And the directions for enabling uploads can [[MetaWikipedia:LocalSettings.php#Image_Uploads|found in the User's Guide]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Pertmywert owns the wiki. He upgraded it. So, does that mean you'll have to ask him about it? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

::::If Pertmywert is the only one with access to the files on the server, then yes. He needs to modify one line of his LocalSettings.php file to allow uploads. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:19, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::Okay. I'll alert him ASAP. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

::::::Also note that the upgrade instructions exist as [http://ebwiki.spoonybard.com/UPGRADE part of the archive that Pertmywert uploaded].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:36, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

== Bureaucrat rights ==

Hello Tom! It's me again, the guy who always bugs you for help. I need to know all about Bureaucrat rights. Since, I am a Bureaucrat at [[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert's]] [http://ebwiki.spoonybard.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Eskimo Bob Wiki]... {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Please read [[MetaWikiPedia:Setting user rights in MediaWiki#bureaucrat|the documentation]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:52, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Okay. So, I can't unlock/lock the Database? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Did you read the page? [[MetaWikiPedia:Setting user rights in MediaWiki#developer|Try reading it again]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:00, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for showing me that, Tom. I'll remember that. By the way, I know you a Developer and all that, but you should archive this. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Thanks for your consideration. I'll keep your suggestion in mind.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:11, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== Um... ==

Why am I banned from #hrwiki? Was I trolling or something? --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 16:52, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

:What's your IRC username? What's your IP address? What did you do to get banned from the channel? Are you sure you're banned, or are you just getting errors when you try to connect?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:18, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

:I usually go by thatkidsa [sic]. My IP is 72.145.188.197. I only went on there twice, and the only thing I might have done that angered people is... Having little knowledge of the IRC code 'n such. And I'm pretty sure I'm banned... --Thatkidsam (NLI) 21:03, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

<blockquote>#hrwiki You're banned from that channel</blockquote>

::Okay, you should be good now. There was a fairly broad ban in there that you got caught up in.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:02, 6 November 2005 (UTC).

== Question about the bad_image_list problem ==

I'm a contributor over on another wiki and I was wondering how you solved the problem discussed on [[HRWiki_talk:Upgrade_to_MediaWiki_1.5#Database error]]. It's happening on ours and Google, the MediaWiki site, and the MW Bugzilla haven't yielded any info. But, it Google did link to that talk page. Any info you can provide will help. Thanks. --[[User:68.142.13.101|68.142.13.101]] 03:50, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

:Hi there. Drop me an email at [mailto:tom@hrwiki.org tom@hrwiki.org] and I'll give you all of the details.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:14, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff ==
Can you, um, temporarily lockdown the Fanstuff WIki? Quick? The apocalypse is happening... or at least the same problem that struck this place a few days back. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:46, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, because the fanstuff is about to be virtually DESTROYED!! - {{Stinkoman K/Sig}} 02:55, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Dangit! I thought nobody was there so I trolled the mainpage under the name of Michely00 for some reason. So ban me when ever you get this problem sorted out. Please. {{User:Bassium!/sig} P.S. If I am banned I will reside at the Porple Montage wiki.

:New-user registration and anonymous editing have been disabled. Please leave your pants in the on and upright position. Thank you.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:07, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Why come? Too many WikiTrolls? o.o; [[User: Kiwi|I don't get it]]

:More information is available on the [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki:Big Old Tree/NSMC Troll: Anyone can help!|fanstuff wiki]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:32, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Can you... um... help again? The trolls attacking with the 3000+ accounts he had created. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:03, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:Yeahhhhhh, sorry to bug you again, but we really need it. I say kill them at the source. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 02:20, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::I've got my best men working on it 'round the clock.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:10, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:Who keeps on allowing new user registration on the Fanstuff Wiki?! He keeps on allowing the NSMC bot to attack again and again!! Ugh, it's so annoying... it should be in lockdown until you find out how to stop him for good. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:10, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, seriously. I wish there was something that would appear in the Recent Changes that would tell us if something like this was enebled or disabled. But, whatever. It's up to you guys. Oh, and also, why is there a User Creation Log? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 13:31, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

:::The User Creation Log is useful for tracking if a bot or other vandal creates multiple accounts. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::But it gets annoying during very large troll attacks such as this. Man, I wish more sysops were on! --[[User:Color Printer|Color]] [[User talk:Color Printer|Printer]] 13:48, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

:::I just wish there were more sysops! {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 18:18, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Joshua: I keep allowing new-user registration and anonymous edits on the fanstuff wiki. With your proposed solution, how am I supposed to know if something is stopping the vandal "for good" if registration is still locked down?
::::H*R 700: Check the sitenotice that appears on every single page of the wiki. It will let you know if new-user registration and anonymous editing are disabled.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:08, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I understand, but the Fanstuff Wiki is tiring of being this wiki's guinea pig. I understand that this wiki is more important than it, but this is the FOURTH consecutive attack, the second of which is due to being tested upon. More and more troll accounts are being created, and then there's all the troll edits, which bots can't seem to revert. Here there are hundreds of active users to revert problems, but in the fanstuff wiki the number's closer to forty. Several users are becoming dishearted even to the point of leaving because of having to revert pages again and again and again due to all these attacks. Is there any other way? I'm not sure if the Fanstuff Wiki can survive many more attacks. :/ - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:48, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::What would you like me to do? What's your solution? I have absolutely no problem at all taking the fanstuff wiki offline completely. Would that be acceptable?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:00, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

::I wouldn't normaly say this, but if that's what you have to do, do it soon. I can't stand anymore of this crap. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 23:13, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Temporarily or forever? And what would that solve? (And taking it off forever is not acceptable - too many users love the Fanstuff Wiki.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:14, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

It would probably only be temporay (Er, however you spell it). Okay, I have a dumb idea; How about if we get some kind og supream hacker to hack the NSMC bot and shut it down or something? Trust me, we may not know how to do it, but if we got a supream hacker, then we'll be going somewhere. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 23:17, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Here's the problem: when you test it, he usually attacks when no bureaucrats are online to stop him. So here's an idea: when you want to test something, enable new users and stuff for a little bit and then DUPLICATE the effects of the troll (without all the damage) and see what happens. When your done and you have your results, disable the new users again. That way the Fanstuff Wiki won't be prone with no bureaucrats online. Um... only if you can duplicate his attacks, that is. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:18, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

:Er, I didn't understand that. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 23:19, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Wait a minute, it appears Tom has a souloution. Check the Wiki. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 23:24, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

User talk:Tom

H*R 700 — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:19:50 GMT

H*R 700:

User talk:Tom

H*R 700 — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:17:23 GMT

H*R 700:

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H*R 700 — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:13:07 GMT

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User talk:Tom

H*R 700 — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:18:30 GMT

H*R 700:

Fall Float Parade

H*R 700 — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:51:20 GMT

H*R 700: /* Transcript */ Correct Homsar Quote

[[Image:Fall Float Parade.PNG|thumb|Coach Z, you jerk!]]
Coach Z and Marzipan host a parade!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, [[Homsar]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, [[The Hornblower]], [[The Knight]], {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Strong Bad's Laundry Room]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' November 21, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:28

'''Page Title:''' Reign On, Parade! Reign On!

== Transcript ==
''{A leaf appears with the words "The 4Tst Annual Fall Float Parade".}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' We now return to the firty-tirst annual fall float parade.

''{Cut to Coach Z and Marzipan wearing scarves and ear muffs. Marzipan is holding a mug of hot chocolate with marshmallows, and is clearly mad at Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ok den, welcome back. First please allow me to apologize to my co-host, here, for any innapprapriate comments I may have made while we was at commercial.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{nearly under her breath}'' That's two strikes, Coach Z.

'''COACH Z:''' Yes, yes, what fun!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{suddenly no longer angry}'' So, next up is good old Bubs.

'''COACH Z:''' Yes, good old my favorite type o' guy who I'm just all the time hangin' around and doin' stuff with, Bubs!

''{Cut to Bubs on a giant float with the words "Coach Z, you jerk" written on it. There is a banner hanging on the float that reads, "Happy Thanksgiving!".}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{through a megaphone}'' Coach Z, you jerk!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{surprised}'' Oooh.

'''BUBS:''' Coach Z, you jerk!

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, I see then...

'''BUBS:''' Coach Z—

'''COACH Z:''' That's very—

'''BUBS:''' ''{with more emphasis than before}'' —you jerk!

'''COACH Z:''' —overt.

''{Cut to a close-up of a giant balloon in the likeness of Pom Pom.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, now here's somethin' that doesn't appear to be makin' fun of me, it's the Pam Pam b'lloon!

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's "Pom Pom balloon" for those of you who don't speak Coach Z. Always a hit with the ladies, that Pom Pom.

''{Cut to a wide-shot with the Pom Pom balloon being led offscreen by Pom Pom. A pair of fez-wearing Homsars are coming in behind the balloon driving miniature red cars.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' And never a hit with anyone, it's Homsar! Oh, and there's another Homsar.

'''HOMSARS:''' ''{both of them in unison}'' Let's sing a song of Tinfoil!

''{A new float enters the frame behind the two Homsars. This float has a big pile of sweatshirts in the center, a giant shooting star on the front, and a bee suspended by a giant spring on the back. "SWE ATSHIRTS" is printed on the base of the float. Homestar Runner is buried in the pile of sweatshirts with only his head visible.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, now this is just adorable, Homestar Runner's sweatshirt float.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{referring to the noticable space in the float's wording}'' It looks more like a "swee-atshirt" float to me.

'''COACH Z:''' You say tomater, I say tomatamorts.

''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar buried in the pile of sweatshirts.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan, help! I woke up in this pile of swee-atshirts and I don't know how to stop it! I'm s'pposed to be watching Bubs' concession stand while he's in some ridiculous parade, ''{looking down}'' and I'm pretty sure a rat just bit my knee.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, that's great sweetie. Say hi to that bee for me.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{annoyed}'' Hi, bee.

''{Cut back to the wide shot. Strong Mad walks into the frame carrying Bubs' Concession Stand, which has clearly been ripped out of the ground recently, as there are missing bricks and bits of sod still hanging from the bottom.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Well, it looks like Bubs has come to his senses and entered a proper float in the parade. 'Atta boy, Bubs!

'''MARZIPAN:''' I'm pretty sure that's just Strong Mad absconding with Bubs' Concession Stand.

'''COACH Z:''' Oh. Serves him right then.

''{Cut back to Coach Z and Marzipan.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, and here comes one of my favorites: the K.O.T.H.S. Junior Varsity Marching Band!

''{Cut back to the parade. The band enters, comprised of The King of Town waving The Poopsmith's shovel like a drum major's mace, The Poopsmith playing cymbals, The Hornblower blowing his horn, and the Knight playing a bass drum. The band comes to a halt. Cut to a close up of The King of Town.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' A-break it down for me, fell-as!

''{Cut to a wide shot of the band again. They face the camera and resume playing.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, yeah! I'm feeling this! ''{begins rapping}'' One two, one two, keep it "flond"! Listen to me cause Coach Z's, he's got it goin' on!

''{Cut to a close-up of Coach Z as he continues rapping.}''

'''COACH Z:''' I'm a pretty nice guy with fairly good teeth! C'mon, watch me—

'''MARZIPAN:''' No more free-styling. It's really annoying.

''{Cut back to the parade route. A new float enters. Strong Bad is on the float standing between two Snowmen and beating them with nunchaku. The base of the float, which appears to be a mattress, reads: "Celebrating 04 Glorious Seconds of Nunchucking Snowmen." The "04" is a digital sign that counts up as the scene continues.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ah, and here's Strong Bad's annual not-even-remotely-fall-related float.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Is it just me, or does one of those snowmen look suspiciously like Strong Sad?

'''COACH Z:''' Nah, Strong Sad's yellow.

''{Cut to a close-up of Strong Bad and the snowman on the left, who is in fact Strong Sad. He spits out the carrot that had been in his mouth.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ptooey! Strong Bad, I thought you said our float was going to be "Celebrating Our Nation's Covered Bridges."

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, I said our float was going to be "Sticking-You-In-A-Fake-Snowman-And-Beating-You-Senseless-With-Nunchucks... Covered Bridges."

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, how on earth did I misunderstand all that?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I don't know man. You hear the words "covered bridges" and you just go into a trance.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{starts going into a trance}'' Oh, covered bridges.

''{Strong Sad starts moaning, but snaps out of it when Strong Bad resumes beating him with the nunchaku.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' And, as always, bringing up the rear...

''{As Strong Bad continues beating the snowmen, a looming shadow crawls across the scene and ominous music plays. Cut to a close-up of a giant balloon in the shape of [[Marshie]].}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ...it's the Marshie balloon!

'''COACH Z:''' Man, that thing has got to frighten some children!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Is anyone guiding that balloon?

''{Ominous music plays again as the camera pans down and The Cheat can be seen hanging from one of the balloon ropes, clearly not in control of the balloon. Cut to a wide shot of the platform Coach Z and Marzipan are standing on.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Run for your lives!

''{The Marshie balloon collides with the platform, knocking Coach Z and Marzipan off.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Argh! I regret everything!

''{The television signal cuts out as the platform collapses. It is quickly replaced by a technical difficulty screen with a turkey pulling a plug. The caption at the top reads "Pardon our problems..." and "The End" appears at the bottom.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click the top left question mark at the end to see what happened to Bubs' Concession Stand.
:''{Strong Mad and Strong Bad are in what appears to be the Computer Room, but there's a washing machine in place of Strong Bad's desk. Strong Mad is still holding the concession stand.}''
:'''STRONG MAD:''' CAN I KEEP IT?
:'''STRONG BAD:''' No, you can't keep it. Now go put that thing back.
:'''STRONG MAD:''' IT FOLLOWED ME HOME!!!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, yeah. ''That's'' not true.

*Click the top plug outlet at the end to see an additional scene with Homestar Runner.
:''{Homestar is standing in what seems to be the Field.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Homestar Runner, you have truly outdone yourself!
:''{Pan out to reveal Homestar in a box labeled "blue face man's store" over the removed Bubs' Concession Stand's foundation.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Old Mr. Bubs will never know the difference!

== Fun Facts ==
{{checkstuffpage}}
===Explanations===
* K.O.T.H.S. stands for "King of Town High School". Most American high schools have marching bands.
*A [[Wikipedia:Covered bridge|covered bridge]] is a bridge with enclosed sides and a roof. These single-lane bridges are found throughout rural areas of the Northeastern and Midwestern United States.

===Trivia===
* Due to a discrepancy between the names of the HTML file and the Flash file, this toon didn't load properly when it was first released. A corrected version of the HTML file became available about two hours later.

===Remarks===
* In the Homestar Easter egg, either Bubs' Concession Stand does not have a basement (contradicting [[geddup noise]]), or Homestar's box is covering the hole that leads to it.
* The foliage in the background of the parade has changed to fall colors, but the foliage is still green behind Homestar as he stands on the site of Bubs' Concession Stand.
*Strong Sad spit out the carrot in his mouth before speaking, but when we see him in the background of the shot as the Marshie float threatens the platform, it is in his mouth again.

===Goofs===
*At the end when the Marshie balloon crashes into the stand, and Strong Bad's float is visible in the background, the seconds counter showing how long he's been "celebrating glorious seconds of nunchucking snowmen" has nothing on it.

===Inside References===
*The two Homsars are another instance of [[Twin characters|twin characters]].
*The "pardon our problems" screen is in the same format as the "technical difficulties" screen from [[pizzaz]].
*The [[Wikipedia:Nunchaku|nunchaku]] Strong Bad uses is from [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque's]] "nunchuck-gun" in [[dangeresque 3]].
*This is another appearance of [[Sticky Notes|sticky notes]].
*The wagon supporting Strong Bad's float is the [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]] minus the pancakes.
*When the KOTHS band first appears, it plays the theme song from [[The King of Town DVD]].

===Real-World References===
*The theme of a "Fall Float Parade" is a reference to many Thanksgiving Day Parades, most notably the [[Wikipedia:Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade|Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade]], a large parade taking place in New York on Thanksgiving each year.
*The fez-wearing Homsars in the little cars are modeled after the [[Wikipedia:Shriners|Shriners]], who also appear often in parades.
*"You say tomater, I say tomatamorts" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:George Gershwin|George]] and [[Wikipedia:Ira Gershwin|Ira Gershwin]]'s 1937 hit song ''Let's Call the Whole Thing Off.''
*[http://www.pennzoil.com Pennzoil] is an American motor-oil company, which has sponsored Thanksgiving Day Parades in the past.
*Coach Z's "I regret everything!" is a reversal of "I regret nothing!", a phrase appropriate for a last stand. Strong Bad used it in [[do over]], but it originated as an Edith Piaf [[Wikipedia:List of French phrases|song title]], and was adopted as the motto of the [[Wikipedia:French Foreign Legion#The Legion in popular culture|French Foreign Legion]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:floatparade.html|Watch "Fall Float Parade"]]
*[[HR:fallparade.swf|View the Flash file for "Fall Float Parade"]]
*[[Forum:5999|Forum thread re: Fall Float Parade]]

[[Category:Holiday Toons]]

User talk:Tom

H*R 700 — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:31:47 GMT

H*R 700: /* Fanstuff */

Talk:The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgments

H*R 700 — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:58:45 GMT

H*R 700:

Very interesting!--{{User:Benol/sig}} 14:21, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Now if only those pics were uploaded.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 14:22, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes, quite intresting it is. Now, if only Mike Chapman became a user.... {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 14:58, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

User talk:JoeyDay

H*R 700 — Sat, 19 Nov 2005 20:11:53 GMT

H*R 700: What Just Happened?

{{User:JoeyDay/talk archive}}
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== Advise for a new wiki! ==

Hey there! Me and a couple of my friends started a wiki for our club. I'm the new admin there and would like to ask you if you have any advise to give about starting to make a wiki. What to post on the main page, who should I appoint to dmin with me? Are there any "insiders tips" for running a wiki more smothly? (i.e.: reducing file size ect.) We run on MediaWiki, on Hebrew language, but all the coding is the same. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:21, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:E.L., sure, I'd love to help you with a new wiki. Can you contact me over instant messenger sometime? My contact information is available from my [http://forum.hrwiki.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2 forum profile]. Thanks. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Add'D! (dead..) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:04, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== GrapeNuts project ==

I have a new GrapeNuts project. The punctuation should be bold in the following text:
<pre>'''Debut''': → '''Debut:'''</pre>
Another question: Should we post new projects here, or on [[User_talk:GrapeNuts]], or where? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Actually, I can't think of ''any'' context in which the colon should be outside the triple single quotes (or are you just picking an example?) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:03, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::There was a gnome who came through and replaced "[[Toons|whatever toon]] (debut)" with "'''Debut''': [[Toons|whatever toon]]". Unfortunately, as shown there, he put the colon ''outside'' the bold. I fixed the first one I saw, but then I found another... and another. I did a search, and realized that there are a whole bunch. As for whether we should ''never'' have the colon unbolded, I think it looks okay on [[Glossary]], especially because some of the entries have punctuation as part of the word (see [[Glossary#F|FLOOR TOMMED!]]), but in general you're right; they should be bold. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:03, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry this has taken me so long to respond to. I'm usually not online much during the weekend. I'll sic GrapeNuts on this right away. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Hm, GrapeNuts seems unable to process that request. The problem is I have no good way of telling him the subset of pages he should work on. If I try to tell him to work on the whole wiki he gives me the following error: "AttributeError: MediaWikiXmlHandler instance has no attribute 'id'." Whatever that means. Apparently in version 1.5 I'll be able to pull an XML file of the database that should improve GrapeNuts' ability to handle tasks like this, but for now we may have to do this by hand. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:05, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

When GrapeNuts is up and running again, so to speak, could you have it fix my sig? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}}

== Signature ==

Hi JoeyDay. Is it alright if I could put your signature on my userpage to link to yours? {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 23:58, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, that's fine with me, Homestramy20, but could you remove the part about me being God? I feel the same way about you calling me "God" as you do about Bobo the King using the "D" word. Thanks. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Okay, complete apology. I didn't know you felt that way. Anyways, thanks. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:04, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shipping Time ==

Hey, Joey. I just ordered some stuff from the Homestar site. I just wanted to know how fast your stuff took to come. I am ''very'' exited about getting Strongbad_email.exe, but I don't want it to take 6-8 weeks. I mean, is Canada ''really'' that far away? But i'm rambling. Thanks, {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

:I don't remember, but I know it wasn't 6–8 weeks. I'd guess about a week. Congratulations on your purchase. I've been drooling over the DVDs for a while now. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:53, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Alright, thanks. Are you from Canada? {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

:::Nope, I'm from Salt Lake City, Utah. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:53, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::Oh, I ''am'' from Canada. So I guess it'll take longer than yours did. Oh well. {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

:::::I'm from Canada, (lower west coast to be exact), and I remember my purchase coming within one week. They were really quite speedy. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:35, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== I found a troll! ==
66.82.9.39 is the IP address. It was a troll in the fanstuff wiki. Battle of Homestar High. [[User:Seek Bar|DonZabu]]

== Bannination ==
I really need to be unbanned from #hrwiki. I don't even know what I did to get banned...did I annoy Tom? --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar]]

== GrapeNuts source code ==

Hi Joey, would you be interested in releasing the GrapeNuts source code? I've been coding in Java far too much lately, I might be interested in a Python-type-diversion. :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:20, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Homestar Coder: As is already noted on GrapeNuts' user page, GrapeNuts is an instance of the [[MetaWikiPedia:Using_the_python_wikipediabot|Python Wikipediabot Framework]]. I haven't made any modifications, and there are instructions on that page for downloading and using your own instance of the framework. Have fun! — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::Okay, I thought maybe you had attempted modifications. It sounds like the code itself might need some tweaking to work on HRWiki, so I could look into it... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:29, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::Me too! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:14, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC) (I have an instance of HRWiki running in my computer, and I am interested in it. If I can help solve the problems you guys are encountering, that would be awesome! Is there a page that specifically delineates the problems you are having?)

::::The biggest problem we're having is the Pywikipedia bot can't read any of our pages that start with lower case letters. We're kindof a special wiki in that we have the [[MetaWikiPedia:LocalSettings.php#Force_Capital_Links|$wgCapitalLinks]] variable set to 'false' in our [[MetaWikiPedia:LocalSettings.php|LocalSettings.php]] file. Other than that, it also seems to be having trouble getting lists of pages by category or by namespace. MediaWiki 1.5 has xml dumps, which should give Pywikipediabot much more useful information about our wiki and help it find pages better. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:29, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Unbanned please ==

Can I please be unbanned from the Chat Channle? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:What's your IRC username, please? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:25, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

H. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Just the letter "H"? What did you do to get banned from the channel? Are you sure you're banned, or are you just getting errors when you try to connect? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:08, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

It says "Blocked by Zone Labs Security". I don't know what I did. I just left, and I was blocked! {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:We didn't block you; Zone Labs is simply your firewall, my friend. You should be able to find a little Z down in the bottom right corner of your screen, right-click it, and choose "Disable". You probably shouldn't leave it disabled all the time. Maybe there's a setting in there where you can add us to some kind of allow list. Have your mom or dad look at it for you; they might be able to figure it out. Or contact me over instant messenger (my contact info is on my [http://forum.hrwiki.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2 forum profile]). I work in tech support and might be able to help you fix it. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:18, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Aw, man. I didn't realize my fire wall was ZL. I see it. Thank, for the info. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:No problem. Let me know if you still can't get in after disabling Zone Alarm. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:01, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)
==Wiki Day!==

Happy Happy wiki day!! Wow, your wiki is two years old. Awsome! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:32, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== IRC Topic ==

Joey, how do you make ChanServ change the topic of a chat without having to OP to do it? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:27, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:You'd want to use the <tt>/msg ChanServ SET <channel> TOPICLOCK OFF</tt> command, which would then allow non-ops to change to topic. For more help with ChanServ, try <tt>/msg ChanServ HELP</tt>.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Actually, I talked with Lapper in the chat room today. His problem had more to do with his channel being <code>+t</code>. He wanted to keep TOPICLOCK on, but didn't want to op himself every time he needed to change the topic. <code>+t</code> keeps non-ops from changing the topic, TOPICLOCK keeps those without a certain access level from changing the topic, regardless of whether they are opped or not. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Wikipedia article about HRWiki ==

Me and a few other users are setting up a [[Wikipedia:User:Kookykman/HRWiki article in progress|Wikipedia article]] about the HRWiki. ([[Wikipedia:User talk:Kookykman/HRWiki article in progress|Here's]] the talk page for it.) Just thought I'd let you know. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Uploading unlocking ==

Okay Joey,(I asked Tom too) here's my problem. I am a bureaucrat at the [http://ebwiki.spoonybard.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Eskimo Bob Wiki] and we just moved to new software. The uploading is locked. How do I unlock it?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 12:50, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

== WikiTikiTavi ==

I noticed a spammer that I've seen on other Wikis. Dynamic IP, uses user names, always spams in exactly the same method. Could GrapeNuts be used to remove the spam, since it's always identical? Wouldn't get around good old fashioned blocking, but it'd reduce the damage. Just a thought, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:52, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, I don't think GrapeNuts could handle this task faster than humans. First, GrapeNuts isn't running all the time constantly searching the Wiki for out of place stuff. When I want GrapeNuts to do a find and replace, I call him up in a command window and give him a command. When he's done with the command, he goes back to sleep. There's no way to set him up so he constantly patrols the Wiki. Now, I could create a task for him that I simply run once a day, but here's the catch: to find tihs kind of spam, he'd have to run a search of the entire Wiki, something he's very slow at doing. By the time GrapeNuts comes around to the page the spam was on, a much smarter human being will have already found it via recent changes and reverted it. It would be smarter if there were a way to have GrapeNuts look back through the last hundred edits and find the spam that way, but again that's something I would have to run myself, and it's faster for me to just look at recent changes with my own eyeballs. :) It was a good idea, but I just don't see it being feasible. Sorry, Jay. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:55, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:: Okay, I didn't knw the specifics on GrapeNuts. I guess I assumed some things that weren't true of it. Oh, well. It was worth a shot. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:58, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== NGS Troll ==

Hi Joey. I wanted to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=More_Fan_Costumes&diff=196465&oldid=196414 let you know] that the NGS troll actually went through and modified pages two, three sometimes four times. So reverts might have to be done several levels deep! Just wanted to let you know. BTW it goes without saying you guys are doing a great job in thwarting this nuisance! I will try to do what I can from here. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:37, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

=='''Special report'''==
I vile.exe have a new page ''Vile's Fortress'' visit it [[User:Vile.exe|Vile.exe]] 21:04, 15 November 2005 (UTC) Does doesn't count as spam does it

IT DOT COM BLOCK ME AND HE SAID HE GOT PERMISSION FROM YOU HOW LONG WILL I BLOCKED I CAN"T POST A LINK I AM USING A DIFFERENT COPUTER VILE>EXE

== [[:Template:tick|Tick]] and [[:Template:done|done]] ==

We have two templates that are exactly the same. One is used by some users, the other was used only by GrapeNuts until I switched it. I ask you this because you created ''done'' and you should know about the situation. So what do you say? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:26, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:I knew about the situation back when I created ''done''. I knew there was already a ''tick'' template and I deliberately chose not to use it. I've said more on [[Template talk:done]]. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 20:15, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

== Homsar999 says he was blocked... ==

...from the IRC for "impersonating a copyrighted character". He says that he was never pretending to be Homsar or The Brothers Chaps. Why was he blocked? Here's a transcript of some things I asked him relating to this:
<blockquote>
<Homsar> talking what up? 
<Homsar> my UNBANNING? 
<Kookykman> Yes. 
<Homsar> Come to #fanstuff 
<Kookykman> Sorry, I can't. 
<Homsar> did you check out the Wiki User Wiki? 
<Kookykman> I'm trying to get some info out of an admin why you were banned. 
<Kookykman> And no. 
<Homsar> Hello? 
<Kookykman> I;m here. 
<Kookykman> I'm going to ask JoeyDay. 
<Kookykman> Hang on... 
<Kookykman> Did JoeyDay really say you were blocked for impersonation? 
<Kookykman> You there? 
<Kookykman> Homsar? 
</blockquote>
He then didn't say anything the rest of the conversation. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:We've gone back and forth with this guy a lot. He's been banned for very good reasons. To my knowledge he never impersonated TBC, though Tom may know more about that. The real reason he's banned is for impersonating me and Tom and other admins and for registering other users' nicks with NickServ. He had numerous warnings before being banned and has even been unbanned once, but he went right back to the same old behavior and was blocked again. Kookykman, thanks for trying to help out. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

::Well, he obviously wasn't being truthful with me. Thanks for clearing it up. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::That's odd, because he's a very respectable user at the Fanstuff Wiki... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 00:22, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::::If Homsar999 is such a respectable Fanstuff Wiki member, why would he ban me (the proprietor of said Fanstuff Wiki) from the (unofficial) [irc://irc.freenode.net/fanstuff #fanstuff] IRC channel? I've done nothing to deserve being banned. In fact, I'm not even sure I've ever set foot in that channel. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Well, he was a respectable user, but ever since he got the Wiki User Wiki set up, I think he's let it all go to his head. He's getting on my nerves, and I think we may have to sever ties from the WUW and HRFWiki if he doesn't change. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:29, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::I made some rather unkind remarks about Homsar999 above that I would like to formally retract. I've edited one of my posts (and re-threaded a related comment) accordingly. Homsar999, you're still banned from a few places and I stick by the decisions that have been made regarding your access to various things, but I shouldn't have made insulting personal remarks like that. I'm sorry, and I hope you'll accept my apology. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:31, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== Side question ==

Just as a side question, is the "dog to vomit" comment a biblical quote? Could just be a conincidence, or used as a general saying around Salt Lake, but I've only ever heard that saying in the bible. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:59, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:Yep, [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=24&chapter=26&verse=11&version=31&context=verse Proverbs 26:11]. I was wondering if anyone would get that. :) — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:39, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::Oh I couldn't miss it. Glad to see there's another bible buff floating around the [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=25&chapter=12&verse=12&version=9&context=verse Wiki] :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:23, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Well, that's cool, because I, too, am a Bible buff. Grace and peace be with ye. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Hey there Joeyday ==

Hey there Joeyday have you been. Let me ask you something, what happens if Homestar runner wiki doesn;t get the 2005 Fall Pledge Drive money? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:24, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

:I've commented a bit regarding our situation on the [[HRWiki_talk:2005_Fall_Pledge_Drive#Looking_ahead|pledge drive talk page]]. I think we'll be okay for right now. If at some point in the future we can't raise all the money we need, we would probably turn to someone like [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] for help. I don't think we'll need to do that anytime soon, though. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:07, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

::what is a "wikia"? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 09:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::[http://www.wikia.com Click the link he provided and find out.] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 11:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Server Problems? ==

Why has the wiki been so slow the last few days? Has it been the NSMC trolls doing? Or has it been some type of server problem? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 13:36, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:We've been able to block the NSMC troll from actually making edits, but we suspect his vandal scripts are still hitting the wiki pretty hard with traffic. Keep your pants on. We're working on a solution. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:59, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

::Pants?.....hmmmm. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:34, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:::How ''do'' you stop someone from doing something like that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:40, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah. Seriously. Eh, at least it's working better now. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}
:::::I like, don't think you ''can'' stop a troll like this. Of course, JoeyDay is the expert. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:38, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Congratulations on that check and letter fom Matt Chapman. Just one question; how much money did they donate again? They are awful generous :) {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 18:03, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:The check said $250, I think. Congrats, Joey. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:08, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

::I can't take the credit for this. The honor goes to all of you who have made the Wiki what it is. The worst part about all this is I can't share this with any of you guys. I wish you could all hold this letter in your hands and feel how nervous and shaky I felt when I opened it. Our community deserves this collectively more than I do individually. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:35, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Joey, I must say this: any group or organization is generally a reflection of its leadership. If our people know how to operate this wiki smoothly and do so professionally, it is because they have had a fine example to follow. Just a thought. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, can you post all the sketches he sent you? I'm eager to see them... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:02, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:::He sent sketches? Awesome. That should be a great sight. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

::::The sketches will all be posted this evening, as soon as I can get them scanned in using my parents' color flatbed scanner. Patience. :) — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:22, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Okay. I'm waiting. So, your pretty lucky your actually getting involved with TBC. I mean, think about it if TBC never knew about this Wiki. It would make it alot less official. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 23:26, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::In the meantime, you can feel free to indulge in this one that Joey posted. [http://static.flickr.com/27/64531304_ed342d2ba6.jpg] — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:45, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::I feel this could use all use a Wiki page somewhere. The letter being the focus, along with meantioning the compound eyes thing, and I think there's another instance on the new DVD or something. In any case, it does include 5 never before or anywhere else seen sketch pages, which deserves Wikifying in itself. (Just out of curiosity, are you planning to frame the sketches all nice and happy like? I sure would) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:42, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Well, I tried adding the letter to Matt Chapman's page, but it got reverted because JoeyDay might not want to make a big deal out of it. I would definitely like a page of times the HRWiki was referenced by TBC and their friends, and this letter deserves to be on a page. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:30, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::A page just for the wiki would be selfish. How about a page referencing all fan acknowledgements from TBC? BHZ, signing on a fan forum... All the stuff. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:57, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::Yeah, that sounds good. And I don't know what I would do if I got a letter from either of the Chapos. But yes, E.L's got it right. All fan acknowledgements, not just the HRWiki.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 15:07, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Did TBC ever really reference other fansites besides this one? And by fansites, I mean actual H*R fansites, not stuff like Tacoman. But whatever. Either page works for me. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:46, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::::Uh, would it be a good thing if they did? Wait, did they say anything about the HRFWiki? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 17:43, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff Wiki IRC Channel ==
Hi, Joey. I'd like you to know that you're not banned from my #fanstuff channel, and in fact you have level 20 access, which you have had for a while (did you know that?)

Anyway, I'd like you to reconsider #hrwiki-fanstuff or work something out with me. PM me on the forums. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]]

:Yes, I'm aware that you've unbanned me and given me level 20 access in [irc://irc.freenode.net/fanstuff #fanstuff]. I appreciate that, but it doesn't change things.

:Freenode [http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#primarychannels describes in it's official policy] how projects should name their channels. They specifically outline that once we've registered a name, we have control over any channel that starts with that name and a hyphen, as I've done in the case of [irc://irc.freenode.net/hrwiki-fanstuff #hrwiki-fanstuff]. This is the recommended way of doing things, and you see it over and over again on Freenode in places like [irc://irc.freenode.net/drupal #drupal] and [irc://irc.freenode.net/drupal-support #drupal-support] or [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress #wordpress], [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress-docs #wordpress-docs], [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress-bugs #wordpress-bugs] and [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress-meetup #wordpress-meetup] or [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia #wikipedia] and [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia-tech #wikipedia-tech]. I'm confident that the way I've named the official fanstuff channel is the most appropriate way to do things.

:Here's the bottom line: I don't have anything against your fanstuff channel, but the only way I would ever consider attaching it officially to the Wiki is if I and the other admins had full control over it. In other words, you would need to give up control over the channel entirely. I don't have anything against you personally, Homsar999; please understand that clearly. I just want to make sure we have full control over anything we deem to be official. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:42, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

== What Just Happened? ==

Why did tis entire wiki get replaced with the contents of the HRFWiki? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 20:11, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

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== Advise for a new wiki! ==

Hey there! Me and a couple of my friends started a wiki for our club. I'm the new admin there and would like to ask you if you have any advise to give about starting to make a wiki. What to post on the main page, who should I appoint to dmin with me? Are there any "insiders tips" for running a wiki more smothly? (i.e.: reducing file size ect.) We run on MediaWiki, on Hebrew language, but all the coding is the same. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:21, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:E.L., sure, I'd love to help you with a new wiki. Can you contact me over instant messenger sometime? My contact information is available from my [http://forum.hrwiki.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2 forum profile]. Thanks. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Add'D! (dead..) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:04, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== GrapeNuts project ==

I have a new GrapeNuts project. The punctuation should be bold in the following text:
<pre>'''Debut''': → '''Debut:'''</pre>
Another question: Should we post new projects here, or on [[User_talk:GrapeNuts]], or where? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Actually, I can't think of ''any'' context in which the colon should be outside the triple single quotes (or are you just picking an example?) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:03, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::There was a gnome who came through and replaced "[[Toons|whatever toon]] (debut)" with "'''Debut''': [[Toons|whatever toon]]". Unfortunately, as shown there, he put the colon ''outside'' the bold. I fixed the first one I saw, but then I found another... and another. I did a search, and realized that there are a whole bunch. As for whether we should ''never'' have the colon unbolded, I think it looks okay on [[Glossary]], especially because some of the entries have punctuation as part of the word (see [[Glossary#F|FLOOR TOMMED!]]), but in general you're right; they should be bold. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:03, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry this has taken me so long to respond to. I'm usually not online much during the weekend. I'll sic GrapeNuts on this right away. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Hm, GrapeNuts seems unable to process that request. The problem is I have no good way of telling him the subset of pages he should work on. If I try to tell him to work on the whole wiki he gives me the following error: "AttributeError: MediaWikiXmlHandler instance has no attribute 'id'." Whatever that means. Apparently in version 1.5 I'll be able to pull an XML file of the database that should improve GrapeNuts' ability to handle tasks like this, but for now we may have to do this by hand. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:05, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

When GrapeNuts is up and running again, so to speak, could you have it fix my sig? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}}

== Signature ==

Hi JoeyDay. Is it alright if I could put your signature on my userpage to link to yours? {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 23:58, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, that's fine with me, Homestramy20, but could you remove the part about me being God? I feel the same way about you calling me "God" as you do about Bobo the King using the "D" word. Thanks. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Okay, complete apology. I didn't know you felt that way. Anyways, thanks. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:04, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shipping Time ==

Hey, Joey. I just ordered some stuff from the Homestar site. I just wanted to know how fast your stuff took to come. I am ''very'' exited about getting Strongbad_email.exe, but I don't want it to take 6-8 weeks. I mean, is Canada ''really'' that far away? But i'm rambling. Thanks, {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

:I don't remember, but I know it wasn't 6–8 weeks. I'd guess about a week. Congratulations on your purchase. I've been drooling over the DVDs for a while now. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:53, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Alright, thanks. Are you from Canada? {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

:::Nope, I'm from Salt Lake City, Utah. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:53, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::Oh, I ''am'' from Canada. So I guess it'll take longer than yours did. Oh well. {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

== I found a troll! ==
66.82.9.39 is the IP address. It was a troll in the fanstuff wiki. Battle of Homestar High. [[User:Seek Bar|DonZabu]]

== Bannination ==
I really need to be unbanned from #hrwiki. I don't even know what I did to get banned...did I annoy Tom? --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar]]

== GrapeNuts source code ==

Hi Joey, would you be interested in releasing the GrapeNuts source code? I've been coding in Java far too much lately, I might be interested in a Python-type-diversion. :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:20, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Homestar Coder: As is already noted on GrapeNuts' user page, GrapeNuts is an instance of the [[MetaWikiPedia:Using_the_python_wikipediabot|Python Wikipediabot Framework]]. I haven't made any modifications, and there are instructions on that page for downloading and using your own instance of the framework. Have fun! — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::Okay, I thought maybe you had attempted modifications. It sounds like the code itself might need some tweaking to work on HRWiki, so I could look into it... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:29, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::Me too! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:14, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC) (I have an instance of HRWiki running in my computer, and I am interested in it. If I can help solve the problems you guys are encountering, that would be awesome! Is there a page that specifically delineates the problems you are having?)

::::The biggest problem we're having is the Pywikipedia bot can't read any of our pages that start with lower case letters. We're kindof a special wiki in that we have the [[MetaWikiPedia:LocalSettings.php#Force_Capital_Links|$wgCapitalLinks]] variable set to 'false' in our [[MetaWikiPedia:LocalSettings.php|LocalSettings.php]] file. Other than that, it also seems to be having trouble getting lists of pages by category or by namespace. MediaWiki 1.5 has xml dumps, which should give Pywikipediabot much more useful information about our wiki and help it find pages better. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:29, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Unbanned please ==

Can I please be unbanned from the Chat Channle? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:What's your IRC username, please? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:25, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

H. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Just the letter "H"? What did you do to get banned from the channel? Are you sure you're banned, or are you just getting errors when you try to connect? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:08, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

It says "Blocked by Zone Labs Security". I don't know what I did. I just left, and I was blocked! {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:We didn't block you; Zone Labs is simply your firewall, my friend. You should be able to find a little Z down in the bottom right corner of your screen, right-click it, and choose "Disable". You probably shouldn't leave it disabled all the time. Maybe there's a setting in there where you can add us to some kind of allow list. Have your mom or dad look at it for you; they might be able to figure it out. Or contact me over instant messenger (my contact info is on my [http://forum.hrwiki.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2 forum profile]). I work in tech support and might be able to help you fix it. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:18, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Aw, man. I didn't realize my fire wall was ZL. I see it. Thank, for the info. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:No problem. Let me know if you still can't get in after disabling Zone Alarm. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:01, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)
==Wiki Day!==

Happy Happy wiki day!! Wow, your wiki is two years old. Awsome! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:32, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== IRC Topic ==

Joey, how do you make ChanServ change the topic of a chat without having to OP to do it? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:27, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:You'd want to use the <tt>/msg ChanServ SET <channel> TOPICLOCK OFF</tt> command, which would then allow non-ops to change to topic. For more help with ChanServ, try <tt>/msg ChanServ HELP</tt>.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Actually, I talked with Lapper in the chat room today. His problem had more to do with his channel being <code>+t</code>. He wanted to keep TOPICLOCK on, but didn't want to op himself every time he needed to change the topic. <code>+t</code> keeps non-ops from changing the topic, TOPICLOCK keeps those without a certain access level from changing the topic, regardless of whether they are opped or not. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Wikipedia article about HRWiki ==

Me and a few other users are setting up a [[Wikipedia:User:Kookykman/HRWiki article in progress|Wikipedia article]] about the HRWiki. ([[Wikipedia:User talk:Kookykman/HRWiki article in progress|Here's]] the talk page for it.) Just thought I'd let you know. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Uploading unlocking ==

Okay Joey,(I asked Tom too) here's my problem. I am a bureaucrat at the [http://ebwiki.spoonybard.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Eskimo Bob Wiki] and we just moved to new software. The uploading is locked. How do I unlock it?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 12:50, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

== WikiTikiTavi ==

I noticed a spammer that I've seen on other Wikis. Dynamic IP, uses user names, always spams in exactly the same method. Could GrapeNuts be used to remove the spam, since it's always identical? Wouldn't get around good old fashioned blocking, but it'd reduce the damage. Just a thought, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:52, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, I don't think GrapeNuts could handle this task faster than humans. First, GrapeNuts isn't running all the time constantly searching the Wiki for out of place stuff. When I want GrapeNuts to do a find and replace, I call him up in a command window and give him a command. When he's done with the command, he goes back to sleep. There's no way to set him up so he constantly patrols the Wiki. Now, I could create a task for him that I simply run once a day, but here's the catch: to find tihs kind of spam, he'd have to run a search of the entire Wiki, something he's very slow at doing. By the time GrapeNuts comes around to the page the spam was on, a much smarter human being will have already found it via recent changes and reverted it. It would be smarter if there were a way to have GrapeNuts look back through the last hundred edits and find the spam that way, but again that's something I would have to run myself, and it's faster for me to just look at recent changes with my own eyeballs. :) It was a good idea, but I just don't see it being feasible. Sorry, Jay. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:55, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:: Okay, I didn't knw the specifics on GrapeNuts. I guess I assumed some things that weren't true of it. Oh, well. It was worth a shot. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:58, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== NGS Troll ==

Hi Joey. I wanted to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=More_Fan_Costumes&diff=196465&oldid=196414 let you know] that the NGS troll actually went through and modified pages two, three sometimes four times. So reverts might have to be done several levels deep! Just wanted to let you know. BTW it goes without saying you guys are doing a great job in thwarting this nuisance! I will try to do what I can from here. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:37, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

=='''Special report'''==
I vile.exe have a new page ''Vile's Fortress'' visit it [[User:Vile.exe|Vile.exe]] 21:04, 15 November 2005 (UTC) Does doesn't count as spam does it

IT DOT COM BLOCK ME AND HE SAID HE GOT PERMISSION FROM YOU HOW LONG WILL I BLOCKED I CAN"T POST A LINK I AM USING A DIFFERENT COPUTER VILE>EXE

== [[:Template:tick|Tick]] and [[:Template:done|done]] ==

We have two templates that are exactly the same. One is used by some users, the other was used only by GrapeNuts until I switched it. I ask you this because you created ''done'' and you should know about the situation. So what do you say? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:26, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:I knew about the situation back when I created ''done''. I knew there was already a ''tick'' template and I deliberately chose not to use it. I've said more on [[Template talk:done]]. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 20:15, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

== Homsar999 says he was blocked... ==

...from the IRC for "impersonating a copyrighted character". He says that he was never pretending to be Homsar or The Brothers Chaps. Why was he blocked? Here's a transcript of some things I asked him relating to this:
<blockquote>
<Homsar> talking what up? 
<Homsar> my UNBANNING? 
<Kookykman> Yes. 
<Homsar> Come to #fanstuff 
<Kookykman> Sorry, I can't. 
<Homsar> did you check out the Wiki User Wiki? 
<Kookykman> I'm trying to get some info out of an admin why you were banned. 
<Kookykman> And no. 
<Homsar> Hello? 
<Kookykman> I;m here. 
<Kookykman> I'm going to ask JoeyDay. 
<Kookykman> Hang on... 
<Kookykman> Did JoeyDay really say you were blocked for impersonation? 
<Kookykman> You there? 
<Kookykman> Homsar? 
</blockquote>
He then didn't say anything the rest of the conversation. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:We've gone back and forth with this guy a lot. He's been banned for very good reasons. To my knowledge he never impersonated TBC, though Tom may know more about that. The real reason he's banned is for impersonating me and Tom and other admins and for registering other users' nicks with NickServ. He had numerous warnings before being banned and has even been unbanned once, but he went right back to the same old behavior like a dog to vomit and was blocked again. Kookykman, thanks for trying to help out, but this guy's beyond help. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

::Well, he obviously wasn't being truthful with me. Thanks for clearing it up. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::That's odd, because he's a very respectable user at the Fanstuff Wiki... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 00:22, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::::If Homsar999 is such a respectable Fanstuff Wiki member, why would he ban me (the proprietor of said Fanstuff Wiki) from the (unofficial) [irc://irc.freenode.net/fanstuff #fanstuff] IRC channel? I've done nothing to deserve being banned. In fact, I'm not even sure I've ever set foot in that channel. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Well, he was a respectable user, but ever since he got the Wiki User Wiki set up, I think he's let it all go to his head. He's getting on my nerves, and I think we may have to sever ties from the WUW and HRFWiki if he doesn't change. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:29, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::Just as a side question, is the "dog to vomit" comment a biblical quote? Could just be a conincidence, or used as a general saying around Salt Lake, but I've only ever heard that saying in the bible. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:59, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Yep, [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=24&chapter=26&verse=11&version=31&context=verse Proverbs 26:11]. I was wondering if anyone would get that. :) — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:39, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Oh I couldn't miss it. Glad to see there's another bible buff floating around the [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=25&chapter=12&verse=12&version=9&context=verse Wiki] :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:23, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Well, that's cool, because I, too, am a Bible buff. Grace and peace be with ye. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Hey there Joeyday ==

Hey there Joeyday have you been. Let me ask you something, what happens if Homestar runner wiki doesn;t get the 2005 Fall Pledge Drive money? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:24, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

:I've commented a bit regarding our situation on the [[HRWiki_talk:2005_Fall_Pledge_Drive#Looking_ahead|pledge drive talk page]]. I think we'll be okay for right now. If at some point in the future we can't raise all the money we need, we would probably turn to someone like [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] for help. I don't think we'll need to do that anytime soon, though. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:07, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

::what is a "wikia"? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 09:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::[http://www.wikia.com Click the link he provided and find out.] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 11:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Server Problems? ==

Why has the wiki been so slow the last few days? Has it been the NSMC trolls doing? Or has it been some type of server problem? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 13:36, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:We've been able to block the NSMC troll from actually making edits, but we suspect his vandal scripts are still hitting the wiki pretty hard with traffic. Keep your pants on. We're working on a solution. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:59, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

::Pants?.....hmmmm. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:34, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:::How ''do'' you stop someone from doing something like that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:40, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah. Seriously. Eh, at least it's working better now. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

== Congrats ==

Congratulations on that check and letter fom Matt Chapman. Just one question; how much money did they donate again? They are awful generous :) {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 18:03, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:The check said $250, I think. Congrats, Joey. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:08, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

::I can't take the credit for this. The honor goes to all of you who have made the Wiki what it is. The worst part about all this is I can't share this with any of you guys. I wish you could all hold this letter in your hands and feel how nervous and shaky I felt when I opened it. Our community deserves this collectively more than I do individually. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:35, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Joey, I must say this: any group or organization is generally a reflection of its leadership. If our people know how to operate this wiki smoothly and do so professionally, it is because they have had a fine example to follow. Just a thought. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, can you post all the sketches he sent you? I'm eager to see them... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:02, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:::He sent sketches? Awesome. That should be a great sight. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

::::The sketches will all be posted this evening, as soon as I can get them scanned in using my parents' color flatbed scanner. Patience. :) — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:22, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Okay. I'm waiting. So, your pretty lucky your actually getting involved with TBC. I mean, think about it if TBC never knew about this Wiki. It would make it alot less official. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 23:26, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff Wiki IRC Channel ==
Hi, Joey. I'd like you to know that you're not banned from my #fanstuff channel, and in fact you have level 20 access, which you have had for a while (did you know that?)

Anyway, I'd like you to reconsider #hrwiki-fanstuff or work something out with me. PM me on the forums. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]]

:Yes, I'm aware that you've unbanned me and given me level 20 access in [irc://irc.freenode.net/fanstuff #fanstuff]. I appreciate that, but it doesn't change things.

:Freenode [http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#primarychannels describes in it's official policy] how projects should name their channels. They specifically outline that once we've registered a name, we have control over any channel that starts with that name and a hyphen, as I've done in the case of [irc://irc.freenode.net/hrwiki-fanstuff #hrwiki-fanstuff]. This is the recommended way of doing things, and you see it over and over again on Freenode in places like [irc://irc.freenode.net/drupal #drupal] and [irc://irc.freenode.net/drupal-support #drupal-support] or [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress #wordpress], [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress-docs #wordpress-docs], [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress-bugs #wordpress-bugs] and [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress-meetup #wordpress-meetup] or [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia #wikipedia] and [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia-tech #wikipedia-tech]. I'm confident that the way I've named the official fanstuff channel is the most appropriate way to do things.

:Here's the bottom line: I don't have anything against your fanstuff channel, but the only way I would ever consider attaching it officially to the Wiki is if I and the other admins had full control over it. In other words, you would need to give up control over the channel entirely. I don't have anything against you personally, Homsar999; please understand that clearly. I just want to make sure we have full control over anything we deem to be official. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:42, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

User talk:JoeyDay

H*R 700 — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:21:02 GMT

H*R 700: /* Congrats */

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== Advise for a new wiki! ==

Hey there! Me and a couple of my friends started a wiki for our club. I'm the new admin there and would like to ask you if you have any advise to give about starting to make a wiki. What to post on the main page, who should I appoint to dmin with me? Are there any "insiders tips" for running a wiki more smothly? (i.e.: reducing file size ect.) We run on MediaWiki, on Hebrew language, but all the coding is the same. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:21, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:E.L., sure, I'd love to help you with a new wiki. Can you contact me over instant messenger sometime? My contact information is available from my [http://forum.hrwiki.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2 forum profile]. Thanks. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Add'D! (dead..) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:04, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== GrapeNuts project ==

I have a new GrapeNuts project. The punctuation should be bold in the following text:
<pre>'''Debut''': → '''Debut:'''</pre>
Another question: Should we post new projects here, or on [[User_talk:GrapeNuts]], or where? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Actually, I can't think of ''any'' context in which the colon should be outside the triple single quotes (or are you just picking an example?) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:03, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::There was a gnome who came through and replaced "[[Toons|whatever toon]] (debut)" with "'''Debut''': [[Toons|whatever toon]]". Unfortunately, as shown there, he put the colon ''outside'' the bold. I fixed the first one I saw, but then I found another... and another. I did a search, and realized that there are a whole bunch. As for whether we should ''never'' have the colon unbolded, I think it looks okay on [[Glossary]], especially because some of the entries have punctuation as part of the word (see [[Glossary#F|FLOOR TOMMED!]]), but in general you're right; they should be bold. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:03, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry this has taken me so long to respond to. I'm usually not online much during the weekend. I'll sic GrapeNuts on this right away. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Hm, GrapeNuts seems unable to process that request. The problem is I have no good way of telling him the subset of pages he should work on. If I try to tell him to work on the whole wiki he gives me the following error: "AttributeError: MediaWikiXmlHandler instance has no attribute 'id'." Whatever that means. Apparently in version 1.5 I'll be able to pull an XML file of the database that should improve GrapeNuts' ability to handle tasks like this, but for now we may have to do this by hand. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:05, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

When GrapeNuts is up and running again, so to speak, could you have it fix my sig? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}}

== Signature ==

Hi JoeyDay. Is it alright if I could put your signature on my userpage to link to yours? {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 23:58, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, that's fine with me, Homestramy20, but could you remove the part about me being God? I feel the same way about you calling me "God" as you do about Bobo the King using the "D" word. Thanks. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Okay, complete apology. I didn't know you felt that way. Anyways, thanks. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:04, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shipping Time ==

Hey, Joey. I just ordered some stuff from the Homestar site. I just wanted to know how fast your stuff took to come. I am ''very'' exited about getting Strongbad_email.exe, but I don't want it to take 6-8 weeks. I mean, is Canada ''really'' that far away? But i'm rambling. Thanks, {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

:I don't remember, but I know it wasn't 6–8 weeks. I'd guess about a week. Congratulations on your purchase. I've been drooling over the DVDs for a while now. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:53, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Alright, thanks. Are you from Canada? {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

:::Nope, I'm from Salt Lake City, Utah. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:53, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::Oh, I ''am'' from Canada. So I guess it'll take longer than yours did. Oh well. {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

== I found a troll! ==
66.82.9.39 is the IP address. It was a troll in the fanstuff wiki. Battle of Homestar High. [[User:Seek Bar|DonZabu]]

== Bannination ==
I really need to be unbanned from #hrwiki. I don't even know what I did to get banned...did I annoy Tom? --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar]]

== GrapeNuts source code ==

Hi Joey, would you be interested in releasing the GrapeNuts source code? I've been coding in Java far too much lately, I might be interested in a Python-type-diversion. :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:20, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Homestar Coder: As is already noted on GrapeNuts' user page, GrapeNuts is an instance of the [[MetaWikiPedia:Using_the_python_wikipediabot|Python Wikipediabot Framework]]. I haven't made any modifications, and there are instructions on that page for downloading and using your own instance of the framework. Have fun! — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::Okay, I thought maybe you had attempted modifications. It sounds like the code itself might need some tweaking to work on HRWiki, so I could look into it... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:29, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::Me too! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:14, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC) (I have an instance of HRWiki running in my computer, and I am interested in it. If I can help solve the problems you guys are encountering, that would be awesome! Is there a page that specifically delineates the problems you are having?)

::::The biggest problem we're having is the Pywikipedia bot can't read any of our pages that start with lower case letters. We're kindof a special wiki in that we have the [[MetaWikiPedia:LocalSettings.php#Force_Capital_Links|$wgCapitalLinks]] variable set to 'false' in our [[MetaWikiPedia:LocalSettings.php|LocalSettings.php]] file. Other than that, it also seems to be having trouble getting lists of pages by category or by namespace. MediaWiki 1.5 has xml dumps, which should give Pywikipediabot much more useful information about our wiki and help it find pages better. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:29, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Unbanned please ==

Can I please be unbanned from the Chat Channle? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:What's your IRC username, please? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:25, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

H. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Just the letter "H"? What did you do to get banned from the channel? Are you sure you're banned, or are you just getting errors when you try to connect? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:08, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

It says "Blocked by Zone Labs Security". I don't know what I did. I just left, and I was blocked! {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:We didn't block you; Zone Labs is simply your firewall, my friend. You should be able to find a little Z down in the bottom right corner of your screen, right-click it, and choose "Disable". You probably shouldn't leave it disabled all the time. Maybe there's a setting in there where you can add us to some kind of allow list. Have your mom or dad look at it for you; they might be able to figure it out. Or contact me over instant messenger (my contact info is on my [http://forum.hrwiki.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2 forum profile]). I work in tech support and might be able to help you fix it. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:18, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Aw, man. I didn't realize my fire wall was ZL. I see it. Thank, for the info. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:No problem. Let me know if you still can't get in after disabling Zone Alarm. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:01, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)
==Wiki Day!==

Happy Happy wiki day!! Wow, your wiki is two years old. Awsome! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:32, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== IRC Topic ==

Joey, how do you make ChanServ change the topic of a chat without having to OP to do it? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:27, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:You'd want to use the <tt>/msg ChanServ SET <channel> TOPICLOCK OFF</tt> command, which would then allow non-ops to change to topic. For more help with ChanServ, try <tt>/msg ChanServ HELP</tt>.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Actually, I talked with Lapper in the chat room today. His problem had more to do with his channel being <code>+t</code>. He wanted to keep TOPICLOCK on, but didn't want to op himself every time he needed to change the topic. <code>+t</code> keeps non-ops from changing the topic, TOPICLOCK keeps those without a certain access level from changing the topic, regardless of whether they are opped or not. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Wikipedia article about HRWiki ==

Me and a few other users are setting up a [[Wikipedia:User:Kookykman/HRWiki article in progress|Wikipedia article]] about the HRWiki. ([[Wikipedia:User talk:Kookykman/HRWiki article in progress|Here's]] the talk page for it.) Just thought I'd let you know. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Uploading unlocking ==

Okay Joey,(I asked Tom too) here's my problem. I am a bureaucrat at the [http://ebwiki.spoonybard.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Eskimo Bob Wiki] and we just moved to new software. The uploading is locked. How do I unlock it?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 12:50, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

== WikiTikiTavi ==

I noticed a spammer that I've seen on other Wikis. Dynamic IP, uses user names, always spams in exactly the same method. Could GrapeNuts be used to remove the spam, since it's always identical? Wouldn't get around good old fashioned blocking, but it'd reduce the damage. Just a thought, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:52, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, I don't think GrapeNuts could handle this task faster than humans. First, GrapeNuts isn't running all the time constantly searching the Wiki for out of place stuff. When I want GrapeNuts to do a find and replace, I call him up in a command window and give him a command. When he's done with the command, he goes back to sleep. There's no way to set him up so he constantly patrols the Wiki. Now, I could create a task for him that I simply run once a day, but here's the catch: to find tihs kind of spam, he'd have to run a search of the entire Wiki, something he's very slow at doing. By the time GrapeNuts comes around to the page the spam was on, a much smarter human being will have already found it via recent changes and reverted it. It would be smarter if there were a way to have GrapeNuts look back through the last hundred edits and find the spam that way, but again that's something I would have to run myself, and it's faster for me to just look at recent changes with my own eyeballs. :) It was a good idea, but I just don't see it being feasible. Sorry, Jay. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:55, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:: Okay, I didn't knw the specifics on GrapeNuts. I guess I assumed some things that weren't true of it. Oh, well. It was worth a shot. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:58, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== NGS Troll ==

Hi Joey. I wanted to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=More_Fan_Costumes&diff=196465&oldid=196414 let you know] that the NGS troll actually went through and modified pages two, three sometimes four times. So reverts might have to be done several levels deep! Just wanted to let you know. BTW it goes without saying you guys are doing a great job in thwarting this nuisance! I will try to do what I can from here. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:37, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

=='''Special report'''==
I vile.exe have a new page ''Vile's Fortress'' visit it [[User:Vile.exe|Vile.exe]] 21:04, 15 November 2005 (UTC) Does doesn't count as spam does it

IT DOT COM BLOCK ME AND HE SAID HE GOT PERMISSION FROM YOU HOW LONG WILL I BLOCKED I CAN"T POST A LINK I AM USING A DIFFERENT COPUTER VILE>EXE

== [[:Template:tick|Tick]] and [[:Template:done|done]] ==

We have two templates that are exactly the same. One is used by some users, the other was used only by GrapeNuts until I switched it. I ask you this because you created ''done'' and you should know about the situation. So what do you say? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:26, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:I knew about the situation back when I created ''done''. I knew there was already a ''tick'' template and I deliberately chose not to use it. I've said more on [[Template talk:done]]. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 20:15, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

== Homsar999 says he was blocked... ==

...from the IRC for "impersonating a copyrighted character". He says that he was never pretending to be Homsar or The Brothers Chaps. Why was he blocked? Here's a transcript of some things I asked him relating to this:
<blockquote>
<Homsar> talking what up? 
<Homsar> my UNBANNING? 
<Kookykman> Yes. 
<Homsar> Come to #fanstuff 
<Kookykman> Sorry, I can't. 
<Homsar> did you check out the Wiki User Wiki? 
<Kookykman> I'm trying to get some info out of an admin why you were banned. 
<Kookykman> And no. 
<Homsar> Hello? 
<Kookykman> I;m here. 
<Kookykman> I'm going to ask JoeyDay. 
<Kookykman> Hang on... 
<Kookykman> Did JoeyDay really say you were blocked for impersonation? 
<Kookykman> You there? 
<Kookykman> Homsar? 
</blockquote>
He then didn't say anything the rest of the conversation. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:We've gone back and forth with this guy a lot. He's been banned for very good reasons. To my knowledge he never impersonated TBC, though Tom may know more about that. The real reason he's banned is for impersonating me and Tom and other admins and for registering other users' nicks with NickServ. He had numerous warnings before being banned and has even been unbanned once, but he went right back to the same old behavior like a dog to vomit and was blocked again. Kookykman, thanks for trying to help out, but this guy's beyond help. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

::Well, he obviously wasn't being truthful with me. Thanks for clearing it up. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::That's odd, because he's a very respectable user at the Fanstuff Wiki... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 00:22, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::::If Homsar999 is such a respectable Fanstuff Wiki member, why would he ban me (the proprietor of said Fanstuff Wiki) from the (unofficial) [irc://irc.freenode.net/fanstuff #fanstuff] IRC channel? I've done nothing to deserve being banned. In fact, I'm not even sure I've ever set foot in that channel. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Well, he was a respectable user, but ever since he got the Wiki User Wiki set up, I think he's let it all go to his head. He's getting on my nerves, and I think we may have to sever ties from the WUW and HRFWiki if he doesn't change. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:29, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::Just as a side question, is the "dog to vomit" comment a biblical quote? Could just be a conincidence, or used as a general saying around Salt Lake, but I've only ever heard that saying in the bible. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:59, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Yep, [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=24&chapter=26&verse=11&version=31&context=verse Proverbs 26:11]. I was wondering if anyone would get that. :) — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:39, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Oh I couldn't miss it. Glad to see there's another bible buff floating around the [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=25&chapter=12&verse=12&version=9&context=verse Wiki] :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:23, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Well, that's cool, because I, too, am a Bible buff. Grace and peace be with ye. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Hey there Joeyday ==

Hey there Joeyday have you been. Let me ask you something, what happens if Homestar runner wiki doesn;t get the 2005 Fall Pledge Drive money? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:24, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

:I've commented a bit regarding our situation on the [[HRWiki_talk:2005_Fall_Pledge_Drive#Looking_ahead|pledge drive talk page]]. I think we'll be okay for right now. If at some point in the future we can't raise all the money we need, we would probably turn to someone like [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] for help. I don't think we'll need to do that anytime soon, though. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:07, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

::what is a "wikia"? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 09:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::[http://www.wikia.com Click the link he provided and find out.] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 11:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Server Problems? ==

Why has the wiki been so slow the last few days? Has it been the NSMC trolls doing? Or has it been some type of server problem? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 13:36, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:We've been able to block the NSMC troll from actually making edits, but we suspect his vandal scripts are still hitting the wiki pretty hard with traffic. Keep your pants on. We're working on a solution. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:59, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

::Pants?.....hmmmm. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:34, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:::How ''do'' you stop someone from doing something like that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:40, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah. Seriously. Eh, at least it's working better now. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

== Congrats ==

Congratulations on that check and letter fom Matt Chapman. Just one question; how much money did they donate again? They are awful generous :) {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 18:03, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:The check said $250, I think. Congrats, Joey. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:08, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

::I can't take the credit for this. The honor goes to all of you who have made the Wiki what it is. The worst part about all this is I can't share this with any of you guys. I wish you could all hold this letter in your hands and feel how nervous and shaky I felt when I opened it. Our community deserves this collectively more than I do individually. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:35, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Joey, I must say this: any group or organization is generally a reflection of its leadership. If our people know how to operate this wiki smoothly and do so professionally, it is because they have had a fine example to follow. Just a thought. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, can you post all the sketches he sent you? I'm eager to see them... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:02, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:::He sent sketches? Awesome. That should be a great sight. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

== Fanstuff Wiki IRC Channel ==
Hi, Joey. I'd like you to know that you're not banned from my #fanstuff channel, and in fact you have level 20 access, which you have had for a while (did you know that?)

Anyway, I'd like you to reconsider #hrwiki-fanstuff or work something out with me. PM me on the forums. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]]

:Yes, I'm aware that you've unbanned me and given me level 20 access in [irc://irc.freenode.net/fanstuff #fanstuff]. I appreciate that, but it doesn't change things.

:Freenode [http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#primarychannels describes in it's official policy] how projects should name their channels. They specifically outline that once we've registered a name, we have control over any channel that starts with that name and a hyphen, as I've done in the case of [irc://irc.freenode.net/hrwiki-fanstuff #hrwiki-fanstuff]. This is the recommended way of doing things, and you see it over and over again on Freenode in places like [irc://irc.freenode.net/drupal #drupal] and [irc://irc.freenode.net/drupal-support #drupal-support] or [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress #wordpress], [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress-docs #wordpress-docs], [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress-bugs #wordpress-bugs] and [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress-meetup #wordpress-meetup] or [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia #wikipedia] and [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia-tech #wikipedia-tech]. I'm confident that the way I've named the official fanstuff channel is the most appropriate way to do things.

:Here's the bottom line: I don't have anything against your fanstuff channel, but the only way I would ever consider attaching it officially to the Wiki is if I and the other admins had full control over it. In other words, you would need to give up control over the channel entirely. I don't have anything against you personally, Homsar999; please understand that clearly. I just want to make sure we have full control over anything we deem to be official. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:42, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

User talk:JoeyDay

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== Advise for a new wiki! ==

Hey there! Me and a couple of my friends started a wiki for our club. I'm the new admin there and would like to ask you if you have any advise to give about starting to make a wiki. What to post on the main page, who should I appoint to dmin with me? Are there any "insiders tips" for running a wiki more smothly? (i.e.: reducing file size ect.) We run on MediaWiki, on Hebrew language, but all the coding is the same. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:21, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:E.L., sure, I'd love to help you with a new wiki. Can you contact me over instant messenger sometime? My contact information is available from my [http://forum.hrwiki.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2 forum profile]. Thanks. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Add'D! (dead..) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:04, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== GrapeNuts project ==

I have a new GrapeNuts project. The punctuation should be bold in the following text:
<pre>'''Debut''': → '''Debut:'''</pre>
Another question: Should we post new projects here, or on [[User_talk:GrapeNuts]], or where? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Actually, I can't think of ''any'' context in which the colon should be outside the triple single quotes (or are you just picking an example?) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:03, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::There was a gnome who came through and replaced "[[Toons|whatever toon]] (debut)" with "'''Debut''': [[Toons|whatever toon]]". Unfortunately, as shown there, he put the colon ''outside'' the bold. I fixed the first one I saw, but then I found another... and another. I did a search, and realized that there are a whole bunch. As for whether we should ''never'' have the colon unbolded, I think it looks okay on [[Glossary]], especially because some of the entries have punctuation as part of the word (see [[Glossary#F|FLOOR TOMMED!]]), but in general you're right; they should be bold. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:03, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry this has taken me so long to respond to. I'm usually not online much during the weekend. I'll sic GrapeNuts on this right away. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Hm, GrapeNuts seems unable to process that request. The problem is I have no good way of telling him the subset of pages he should work on. If I try to tell him to work on the whole wiki he gives me the following error: "AttributeError: MediaWikiXmlHandler instance has no attribute 'id'." Whatever that means. Apparently in version 1.5 I'll be able to pull an XML file of the database that should improve GrapeNuts' ability to handle tasks like this, but for now we may have to do this by hand. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:05, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

When GrapeNuts is up and running again, so to speak, could you have it fix my sig? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}}

== Signature ==

Hi JoeyDay. Is it alright if I could put your signature on my userpage to link to yours? {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 23:58, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, that's fine with me, Homestramy20, but could you remove the part about me being God? I feel the same way about you calling me "God" as you do about Bobo the King using the "D" word. Thanks. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Okay, complete apology. I didn't know you felt that way. Anyways, thanks. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:04, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shipping Time ==

Hey, Joey. I just ordered some stuff from the Homestar site. I just wanted to know how fast your stuff took to come. I am ''very'' exited about getting Strongbad_email.exe, but I don't want it to take 6-8 weeks. I mean, is Canada ''really'' that far away? But i'm rambling. Thanks, {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

:I don't remember, but I know it wasn't 6–8 weeks. I'd guess about a week. Congratulations on your purchase. I've been drooling over the DVDs for a while now. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:53, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Alright, thanks. Are you from Canada? {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

:::Nope, I'm from Salt Lake City, Utah. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:53, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::Oh, I ''am'' from Canada. So I guess it'll take longer than yours did. Oh well. {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

== I found a troll! ==
66.82.9.39 is the IP address. It was a troll in the fanstuff wiki. Battle of Homestar High. [[User:Seek Bar|DonZabu]]

== Bannination ==
I really need to be unbanned from #hrwiki. I don't even know what I did to get banned...did I annoy Tom? --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar]]

== GrapeNuts source code ==

Hi Joey, would you be interested in releasing the GrapeNuts source code? I've been coding in Java far too much lately, I might be interested in a Python-type-diversion. :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:20, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Homestar Coder: As is already noted on GrapeNuts' user page, GrapeNuts is an instance of the [[MetaWikiPedia:Using_the_python_wikipediabot|Python Wikipediabot Framework]]. I haven't made any modifications, and there are instructions on that page for downloading and using your own instance of the framework. Have fun! — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::Okay, I thought maybe you had attempted modifications. It sounds like the code itself might need some tweaking to work on HRWiki, so I could look into it... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:29, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::Me too! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:14, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC) (I have an instance of HRWiki running in my computer, and I am interested in it. If I can help solve the problems you guys are encountering, that would be awesome! Is there a page that specifically delineates the problems you are having?)

::::The biggest problem we're having is the Pywikipedia bot can't read any of our pages that start with lower case letters. We're kindof a special wiki in that we have the [[MetaWikiPedia:LocalSettings.php#Force_Capital_Links|$wgCapitalLinks]] variable set to 'false' in our [[MetaWikiPedia:LocalSettings.php|LocalSettings.php]] file. Other than that, it also seems to be having trouble getting lists of pages by category or by namespace. MediaWiki 1.5 has xml dumps, which should give Pywikipediabot much more useful information about our wiki and help it find pages better. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:29, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Unbanned please ==

Can I please be unbanned from the Chat Channle? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:What's your IRC username, please? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:25, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

H. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Just the letter "H"? What did you do to get banned from the channel? Are you sure you're banned, or are you just getting errors when you try to connect? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:08, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

It says "Blocked by Zone Labs Security". I don't know what I did. I just left, and I was blocked! {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:We didn't block you; Zone Labs is simply your firewall, my friend. You should be able to find a little Z down in the bottom right corner of your screen, right-click it, and choose "Disable". You probably shouldn't leave it disabled all the time. Maybe there's a setting in there where you can add us to some kind of allow list. Have your mom or dad look at it for you; they might be able to figure it out. Or contact me over instant messenger (my contact info is on my [http://forum.hrwiki.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2 forum profile]). I work in tech support and might be able to help you fix it. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:18, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Aw, man. I didn't realize my fire wall was ZL. I see it. Thank, for the info. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:No problem. Let me know if you still can't get in after disabling Zone Alarm. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:01, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)
==Wiki Day!==

Happy Happy wiki day!! Wow, your wiki is two years old. Awsome! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:32, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== IRC Topic ==

Joey, how do you make ChanServ change the topic of a chat without having to OP to do it? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:27, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:You'd want to use the <tt>/msg ChanServ SET <channel> TOPICLOCK OFF</tt> command, which would then allow non-ops to change to topic. For more help with ChanServ, try <tt>/msg ChanServ HELP</tt>.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Actually, I talked with Lapper in the chat room today. His problem had more to do with his channel being <code>+t</code>. He wanted to keep TOPICLOCK on, but didn't want to op himself every time he needed to change the topic. <code>+t</code> keeps non-ops from changing the topic, TOPICLOCK keeps those without a certain access level from changing the topic, regardless of whether they are opped or not. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Wikipedia article about HRWiki ==

Me and a few other users are setting up a [[Wikipedia:User:Kookykman/HRWiki article in progress|Wikipedia article]] about the HRWiki. ([[Wikipedia:User talk:Kookykman/HRWiki article in progress|Here's]] the talk page for it.) Just thought I'd let you know. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Uploading unlocking ==

Okay Joey,(I asked Tom too) here's my problem. I am a bureaucrat at the [http://ebwiki.spoonybard.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Eskimo Bob Wiki] and we just moved to new software. The uploading is locked. How do I unlock it?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 12:50, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

== WikiTikiTavi ==

I noticed a spammer that I've seen on other Wikis. Dynamic IP, uses user names, always spams in exactly the same method. Could GrapeNuts be used to remove the spam, since it's always identical? Wouldn't get around good old fashioned blocking, but it'd reduce the damage. Just a thought, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:52, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, I don't think GrapeNuts could handle this task faster than humans. First, GrapeNuts isn't running all the time constantly searching the Wiki for out of place stuff. When I want GrapeNuts to do a find and replace, I call him up in a command window and give him a command. When he's done with the command, he goes back to sleep. There's no way to set him up so he constantly patrols the Wiki. Now, I could create a task for him that I simply run once a day, but here's the catch: to find tihs kind of spam, he'd have to run a search of the entire Wiki, something he's very slow at doing. By the time GrapeNuts comes around to the page the spam was on, a much smarter human being will have already found it via recent changes and reverted it. It would be smarter if there were a way to have GrapeNuts look back through the last hundred edits and find the spam that way, but again that's something I would have to run myself, and it's faster for me to just look at recent changes with my own eyeballs. :) It was a good idea, but I just don't see it being feasible. Sorry, Jay. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:55, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:: Okay, I didn't knw the specifics on GrapeNuts. I guess I assumed some things that weren't true of it. Oh, well. It was worth a shot. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:58, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== NGS Troll ==

Hi Joey. I wanted to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=More_Fan_Costumes&diff=196465&oldid=196414 let you know] that the NGS troll actually went through and modified pages two, three sometimes four times. So reverts might have to be done several levels deep! Just wanted to let you know. BTW it goes without saying you guys are doing a great job in thwarting this nuisance! I will try to do what I can from here. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:37, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

=='''Special report'''==
I vile.exe have a new page ''Vile's Fortress'' visit it [[User:Vile.exe|Vile.exe]] 21:04, 15 November 2005 (UTC) Does doesn't count as spam does it

IT DOT COM BLOCK ME AND HE SAID HE GOT PERMISSION FROM YOU HOW LONG WILL I BLOCKED I CAN"T POST A LINK I AM USING A DIFFERENT COPUTER VILE>EXE

== [[:Template:tick|Tick]] and [[:Template:done|done]] ==

We have two templates that are exactly the same. One is used by some users, the other was used only by GrapeNuts until I switched it. I ask you this because you created ''done'' and you should know about the situation. So what do you say? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:26, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:I knew about the situation back when I created ''done''. I knew there was already a ''tick'' template and I deliberately chose not to use it. I've said more on [[Template talk:done]]. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 20:15, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

== Homsar999 says he was blocked... ==

...from the IRC for "impersonating a copyrighted character". He says that he was never pretending to be Homsar or The Brothers Chaps. Why was he blocked? Here's a transcript of some things I asked him relating to this:
<blockquote>
<Homsar> talking what up? 
<Homsar> my UNBANNING? 
<Kookykman> Yes. 
<Homsar> Come to #fanstuff 
<Kookykman> Sorry, I can't. 
<Homsar> did you check out the Wiki User Wiki? 
<Kookykman> I'm trying to get some info out of an admin why you were banned. 
<Kookykman> And no. 
<Homsar> Hello? 
<Kookykman> I;m here. 
<Kookykman> I'm going to ask JoeyDay. 
<Kookykman> Hang on... 
<Kookykman> Did JoeyDay really say you were blocked for impersonation? 
<Kookykman> You there? 
<Kookykman> Homsar? 
</blockquote>
He then didn't say anything the rest of the conversation. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:We've gone back and forth with this guy a lot. He's been banned for very good reasons. To my knowledge he never impersonated TBC, though Tom may know more about that. The real reason he's banned is for impersonating me and Tom and other admins and for registering other users' nicks with NickServ. He had numerous warnings before being banned and has even been unbanned once, but he went right back to the same old behavior like a dog to vomit and was blocked again. Kookykman, thanks for trying to help out, but this guy's beyond help. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

::Well, he obviously wasn't being truthful with me. Thanks for clearing it up. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::That's odd, because he's a very respectable user at the Fanstuff Wiki... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 00:22, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::::If Homsar999 is such a respectable Fanstuff Wiki member, why would he ban me (the proprietor of said Fanstuff Wiki) from the (unofficial) [irc://irc.freenode.net/fanstuff #fanstuff] IRC channel? I've done nothing to deserve being banned. In fact, I'm not even sure I've ever set foot in that channel. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Well, he was a respectable user, but ever since he got the Wiki User Wiki set up, I think he's let it all go to his head. He's getting on my nerves, and I think we may have to sever ties from the WUW and HRFWiki if he doesn't change. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:29, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::Just as a side question, is the "dog to vomit" comment a biblical quote? Could just be a conincidence, or used as a general saying around Salt Lake, but I've only ever heard that saying in the bible. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:59, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Yep, [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=24&chapter=26&verse=11&version=31&context=verse Proverbs 26:11]. I was wondering if anyone would get that. :) — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:39, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Oh I couldn't miss it. Glad to see there's another bible buff floating around the [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=25&chapter=12&verse=12&version=9&context=verse Wiki] :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:23, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Well, that's cool, because I, too, am a Bible buff. Grace and peace be with ye. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Hey there Joeyday ==

Hey there Joeyday have you been. Let me ask you something, what happens if Homestar runner wiki doesn;t get the 2005 Fall Pledge Drive money? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:24, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

:I've commented a bit regarding our situation on the [[HRWiki_talk:2005_Fall_Pledge_Drive#Looking_ahead|pledge drive talk page]]. I think we'll be okay for right now. If at some point in the future we can't raise all the money we need, we would probably turn to someone like [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] for help. I don't think we'll need to do that anytime soon, though. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:07, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

::what is a "wikia"? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 09:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::[http://www.wikia.com Click the link he provided and find out.] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 11:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Server Problems? ==

Why has the wiki been so slow the last few days? Has it been the NSMC trolls doing? Or has it been some type of server problem? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 13:36, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:We've been able to block the NSMC troll from actually making edits, but we suspect his vandal scripts are still hitting the wiki pretty hard with traffic. Keep your pants on. We're working on a solution. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:59, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

::Pants?.....hmmmm. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:34, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:::How ''do'' you stop someone from doing something like that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:40, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah. Seriously. Eh, at least it's working better now. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

== Congrats ==

Congratulations on that check and letter fom Matt Chapman. Just one question; how much money did they donate again? They are awful generous :) {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 18:03, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:The check said $250, I think. Congrats, Joey. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:08, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

::I can't take the credit for this. The honor goes to all of you who have made the Wiki what it is. The worst part about all this is I can't share this with any of you guys. I wish you could all hold this letter in your hands and feel how nervous and shaky I felt when I opened it. Our community deserves this collectively more than I do individually. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:35, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Joey, I must say this: any group or organization is generally a reflection of its leadership. If our people know how to operate this wiki smoothly and do so professionally, it is because they have had a fine example to follow. Just a thought. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, can you post all the sketches he sent you? I'm eager to see them... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:02, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff Wiki IRC Channel ==
Hi, Joey. I'd like you to know that you're not banned from my #fanstuff channel, and in fact you have level 20 access, which you have had for a while (did you know that?)

Anyway, I'd like you to reconsider #hrwiki-fanstuff or work something out with me. PM me on the forums. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]]

:Yes, I'm aware that you've unbanned me and given me level 20 access in [irc://irc.freenode.net/fanstuff #fanstuff]. I appreciate that, but it doesn't change things.

:Freenode [http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#primarychannels describes in it's official policy] how projects should name their channels. They specifically outline that once we've registered a name, we have control over any channel that starts with that name and a hyphen, as I've done in the case of [irc://irc.freenode.net/hrwiki-fanstuff #hrwiki-fanstuff]. This is the recommended way of doing things, and you see it over and over again on Freenode in places like [irc://irc.freenode.net/drupal #drupal] and [irc://irc.freenode.net/drupal-support #drupal-support] or [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress #wordpress], [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress-docs #wordpress-docs], [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress-bugs #wordpress-bugs] and [irc://irc.freenode.net/wordpress-meetup #wordpress-meetup] or [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia #wikipedia] and [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia-tech #wikipedia-tech]. I'm confident that the way I've named the official fanstuff channel is the most appropriate way to do things.

:Here's the bottom line: I don't have anything against your fanstuff channel, but the only way I would ever consider attaching it officially to the Wiki is if I and the other admins had full control over it. In other words, you would need to give up control over the channel entirely. I don't have anything against you personally, Homsar999; please understand that clearly. I just want to make sure we have full control over anything we deem to be official. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:42, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

User talk:JoeyDay

H*R 700 — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:36:49 GMT

H*R 700: Possible Server Problems?

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== Advise for a new wiki! ==

Hey there! Me and a couple of my friends started a wiki for our club. I'm the new admin there and would like to ask you if you have any advise to give about starting to make a wiki. What to post on the main page, who should I appoint to dmin with me? Are there any "insiders tips" for running a wiki more smothly? (i.e.: reducing file size ect.) We run on MediaWiki, on Hebrew language, but all the coding is the same. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:21, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:E.L., sure, I'd love to help you with a new wiki. Can you contact me over instant messenger sometime? My contact information is available from my [http://forum.hrwiki.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2 forum profile]. Thanks. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Add'D! (dead..) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:04, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== GrapeNuts project ==

I have a new GrapeNuts project. The punctuation should be bold in the following text:
<pre>'''Debut''': → '''Debut:'''</pre>
Another question: Should we post new projects here, or on [[User_talk:GrapeNuts]], or where? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Actually, I can't think of ''any'' context in which the colon should be outside the triple single quotes (or are you just picking an example?) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:03, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::There was a gnome who came through and replaced "[[Toons|whatever toon]] (debut)" with "'''Debut''': [[Toons|whatever toon]]". Unfortunately, as shown there, he put the colon ''outside'' the bold. I fixed the first one I saw, but then I found another... and another. I did a search, and realized that there are a whole bunch. As for whether we should ''never'' have the colon unbolded, I think it looks okay on [[Glossary]], especially because some of the entries have punctuation as part of the word (see [[Glossary#F|FLOOR TOMMED!]]), but in general you're right; they should be bold. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:03, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry this has taken me so long to respond to. I'm usually not online much during the weekend. I'll sic GrapeNuts on this right away. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Hm, GrapeNuts seems unable to process that request. The problem is I have no good way of telling him the subset of pages he should work on. If I try to tell him to work on the whole wiki he gives me the following error: "AttributeError: MediaWikiXmlHandler instance has no attribute 'id'." Whatever that means. Apparently in version 1.5 I'll be able to pull an XML file of the database that should improve GrapeNuts' ability to handle tasks like this, but for now we may have to do this by hand. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:05, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

When GrapeNuts is up and running again, so to speak, could you have it fix my sig? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}}

== Signature ==

Hi JoeyDay. Is it alright if I could put your signature on my userpage to link to yours? {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 23:58, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, that's fine with me, Homestramy20, but could you remove the part about me being God? I feel the same way about you calling me "God" as you do about Bobo the King using the "D" word. Thanks. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:53, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Okay, complete apology. I didn't know you felt that way. Anyways, thanks. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:04, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shipping Time ==

Hey, Joey. I just ordered some stuff from the Homestar site. I just wanted to know how fast your stuff took to come. I am ''very'' exited about getting Strongbad_email.exe, but I don't want it to take 6-8 weeks. I mean, is Canada ''really'' that far away? But i'm rambling. Thanks, {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

:I don't remember, but I know it wasn't 6–8 weeks. I'd guess about a week. Congratulations on your purchase. I've been drooling over the DVDs for a while now. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:53, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Alright, thanks. Are you from Canada? {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

:::Nope, I'm from Salt Lake City, Utah. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:53, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::Oh, I ''am'' from Canada. So I guess it'll take longer than yours did. Oh well. {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

== I found a troll! ==
66.82.9.39 is the IP address. It was a troll in the fanstuff wiki. Battle of Homestar High. [[User:Seek Bar|DonZabu]]

== Bannination ==
I really need to be unbanned from #hrwiki. I don't even know what I did to get banned...did I annoy Tom? --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar]]

== GrapeNuts source code ==

Hi Joey, would you be interested in releasing the GrapeNuts source code? I've been coding in Java far too much lately, I might be interested in a Python-type-diversion. :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:20, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Homestar Coder: As is already noted on GrapeNuts' user page, GrapeNuts is an instance of the [[MetaWikiPedia:Using_the_python_wikipediabot|Python Wikipediabot Framework]]. I haven't made any modifications, and there are instructions on that page for downloading and using your own instance of the framework. Have fun! — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::Okay, I thought maybe you had attempted modifications. It sounds like the code itself might need some tweaking to work on HRWiki, so I could look into it... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:29, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::Me too! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:14, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC) (I have an instance of HRWiki running in my computer, and I am interested in it. If I can help solve the problems you guys are encountering, that would be awesome! Is there a page that specifically delineates the problems you are having?)

::::The biggest problem we're having is the Pywikipedia bot can't read any of our pages that start with lower case letters. We're kindof a special wiki in that we have the [[MetaWikiPedia:LocalSettings.php#Force_Capital_Links|$wgCapitalLinks]] variable set to 'false' in our [[MetaWikiPedia:LocalSettings.php|LocalSettings.php]] file. Other than that, it also seems to be having trouble getting lists of pages by category or by namespace. MediaWiki 1.5 has xml dumps, which should give Pywikipediabot much more useful information about our wiki and help it find pages better. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:29, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Unbanned please ==

Can I please be unbanned from the Chat Channle? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:What's your IRC username, please? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:25, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

H. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Just the letter "H"? What did you do to get banned from the channel? Are you sure you're banned, or are you just getting errors when you try to connect? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:08, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

It says "Blocked by Zone Labs Security". I don't know what I did. I just left, and I was blocked! {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:We didn't block you; Zone Labs is simply your firewall, my friend. You should be able to find a little Z down in the bottom right corner of your screen, right-click it, and choose "Disable". You probably shouldn't leave it disabled all the time. Maybe there's a setting in there where you can add us to some kind of allow list. Have your mom or dad look at it for you; they might be able to figure it out. Or contact me over instant messenger (my contact info is on my [http://forum.hrwiki.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2 forum profile]). I work in tech support and might be able to help you fix it. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:18, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Aw, man. I didn't realize my fire wall was ZL. I see it. Thank, for the info. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:No problem. Let me know if you still can't get in after disabling Zone Alarm. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:01, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)
==Wiki Day!==

Happy Happy wiki day!! Wow, your wiki is two years old. Awsome! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:32, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== IRC Topic ==

Joey, how do you make ChanServ change the topic of a chat without having to OP to do it? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:27, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:You'd want to use the <tt>/msg ChanServ SET <channel> TOPICLOCK OFF</tt> command, which would then allow non-ops to change to topic. For more help with ChanServ, try <tt>/msg ChanServ HELP</tt>.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Actually, I talked with Lapper in the chat room today. His problem had more to do with his channel being <code>+t</code>. He wanted to keep TOPICLOCK on, but didn't want to op himself every time he needed to change the topic. <code>+t</code> keeps non-ops from changing the topic, TOPICLOCK keeps those without a certain access level from changing the topic, regardless of whether they are opped or not. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Wikipedia article about HRWiki ==

Me and a few other users are setting up a [[Wikipedia:User:Kookykman/HRWiki article in progress|Wikipedia article]] about the HRWiki. ([[Wikipedia:User talk:Kookykman/HRWiki article in progress|Here's]] the talk page for it.) Just thought I'd let you know. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Uploading unlocking ==

Okay Joey,(I asked Tom too) here's my problem. I am a bureaucrat at the [http://ebwiki.spoonybard.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Eskimo Bob Wiki] and we just moved to new software. The uploading is locked. How do I unlock it?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 12:50, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

== WikiTikiTavi ==

I noticed a spammer that I've seen on other Wikis. Dynamic IP, uses user names, always spams in exactly the same method. Could GrapeNuts be used to remove the spam, since it's always identical? Wouldn't get around good old fashioned blocking, but it'd reduce the damage. Just a thought, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:52, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, I don't think GrapeNuts could handle this task faster than humans. First, GrapeNuts isn't running all the time constantly searching the Wiki for out of place stuff. When I want GrapeNuts to do a find and replace, I call him up in a command window and give him a command. When he's done with the command, he goes back to sleep. There's no way to set him up so he constantly patrols the Wiki. Now, I could create a task for him that I simply run once a day, but here's the catch: to find tihs kind of spam, he'd have to run a search of the entire Wiki, something he's very slow at doing. By the time GrapeNuts comes around to the page the spam was on, a much smarter human being will have already found it via recent changes and reverted it. It would be smarter if there were a way to have GrapeNuts look back through the last hundred edits and find the spam that way, but again that's something I would have to run myself, and it's faster for me to just look at recent changes with my own eyeballs. :) It was a good idea, but I just don't see it being feasible. Sorry, Jay. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:55, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:: Okay, I didn't knw the specifics on GrapeNuts. I guess I assumed some things that weren't true of it. Oh, well. It was worth a shot. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:58, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== NGS Troll ==

Hi Joey. I wanted to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=More_Fan_Costumes&diff=196465&oldid=196414 let you know] that the NGS troll actually went through and modified pages two, three sometimes four times. So reverts might have to be done several levels deep! Just wanted to let you know. BTW it goes without saying you guys are doing a great job in thwarting this nuisance! I will try to do what I can from here. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:37, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

=='''Special report'''==
I vile.exe have a new page ''Vile's Fortress'' visit it [[User:Vile.exe|Vile.exe]] 21:04, 15 November 2005 (UTC) Does doesn't count as spam does it

IT DOT COM BLOCK ME AND HE SAID HE GOT PERMISSION FROM YOU HOW LONG WILL I BLOCKED I CAN"T POST A LINK I AM USING A DIFFERENT COPUTER VILE>EXE

== [[:Template:tick|Tick]] and [[:Template:done|done]] ==

We have two templates that are exactly the same. One is used by some users, the other was used only by GrapeNuts until I switched it. I ask you this because you created ''done'' and you should know about the situation. So what do you say? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:26, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:I knew about the situation back when I created ''done''. I knew there was already a ''tick'' template and I deliberately chose not to use it. I've said more on [[Template talk:done]]. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 20:15, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

== Homsar999 says he was blocked... ==

...from the IRC for "impersonating a copyrighted character". He says that he was never pretending to be Homsar or The Brothers Chaps. Why was he blocked? Here's a transcript of some things I asked him relating to this:
<blockquote>
<Homsar> talking what up? 
<Homsar> my UNBANNING? 
<Kookykman> Yes. 
<Homsar> Come to #fanstuff 
<Kookykman> Sorry, I can't. 
<Homsar> did you check out the Wiki User Wiki? 
<Kookykman> I'm trying to get some info out of an admin why you were banned. 
<Kookykman> And no. 
<Homsar> Hello? 
<Kookykman> I;m here. 
<Kookykman> I'm going to ask JoeyDay. 
<Kookykman> Hang on... 
<Kookykman> Did JoeyDay really say you were blocked for impersonation? 
<Kookykman> You there? 
<Kookykman> Homsar? 
</blockquote>
He then didn't say anything the rest of the conversation. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:We've gone back and forth with this guy a lot. He's been banned for very good reasons. To my knowledge he never impersonated TBC, though Tom may know more about that. The real reason he's banned is for impersonating me and Tom and other admins and for registering other users' nicks with NickServ. He had numerous warnings before being banned and has even been unbanned once, but he went right back to the same old behavior like a dog to vomit and was blocked again. Kookykman, thanks for trying to help out, but this guy's beyond help. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

::Well, he obviously wasn't being truthful with me. Thanks for clearing it up. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::That's odd, because he's a very respectable user at the Fanstuff Wiki... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 00:22, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::::If Homsar999 is such a respectable Fanstuff Wiki member, why would he ban me (the proprietor of said Fanstuff Wiki) from the (unofficial) [irc://irc.freenode.net/fanstuff #fanstuff] IRC channel? I've done nothing to deserve being banned. In fact, I'm not even sure I've ever set foot in that channel. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Well, he was a respectable user, but ever since he got the Wiki User Wiki set up, I think he's let it all go to his head. He's getting on my nerves, and I think we may have to sever ties from the WUW and HRFWiki if he doesn't change. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:29, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::Just as a side question, is the "dog to vomit" comment a biblical quote? Could just be a conincidence, or used as a general saying around Salt Lake, but I've only ever heard that saying in the bible. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:59, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Yep, [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=24&chapter=26&verse=11&version=31&context=verse Proverbs 26:11]. I was wondering if anyone would get that. :) — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:39, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Oh I couldn't miss it. Glad to see there's another bible buff floating around the [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=25&chapter=12&verse=12&version=9&context=verse Wiki] :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:23, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Well, that's cool, because I, too, am a Bible buff. Grace and peace be with ye. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Hey there Joeyday ==

Hey there Joeyday have you been. Let me ask you something, what happens if Homestar runner wiki doesn;t get the 2005 Fall Pledge Drive money? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:24, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

:I've commented a bit regarding our situation on the [[HRWiki_talk:2005_Fall_Pledge_Drive#Looking_ahead|pledge drive talk page]]. I think we'll be okay for right now. If at some point in the future we can't raise all the money we need, we would probably turn to someone like [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] for help. I don't think we'll need to do that anytime soon, though. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:07, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

::what is a "wikia"? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 09:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::[http://www.wikia.com Click the link he provided and find out.] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 11:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Proof for Rainer22. ==

Rainer22, you're really chatting with the real me in #fanstuff. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 07:19, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Server Problems? ==

Why has the wiki been so slow the last few days? Has it been the NSMC trolls doing? Or has it been some type of server problem? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 13:36, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

User talk:Tom

H*R 700 — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 02:20:22 GMT

H*R 700: /* Fanstuff */

Talk:space program

H*R 700 — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:08:44 GMT

H*R 700:

Guys, I think this e-mail was kind of bad. I mean I know they only had so much time from one Monday to another, but I didn't laugh that much. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 13:08, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:NSMC vandal

H*R 700 — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:11:25 GMT

H*R 700:

Umm, what is this page about? Can someone explain? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

User talk:Jibney

H*R 700 — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:35:17 GMT

H*R 700:

talk about how awsome i am! yay!

:Okay: Jibney is aweseome! And WECLOM'D!
== Welcome! ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' I wanted to extend a personal welcome, since I believe strongly that a [[Wikipedia:Wiki|Wiki]] should be a democratic and non-threatening place where everyone feels like they can contribute. Unfortunately it can be very frustrating at first if you make changes that are ignored or changed back by other users, but if so I encourage you to hang in there; as you get a feel for the way things are done around here you'll feel more at home. That was my experience, anyway!

If you need any help, feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]] (like [[User_talk:AbdiViklas|me]]!). You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
* If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
* Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
* Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User page|user page]]. What you're reading right now, by the way, is the "Talk:" page that goes with your user page. It's a good way to communicate directly with specific users. The best way to respond, though, is on the same user page where the conversation was started. E.g. if you have a question, go to my [[User_talk:AbdiViklas|user talk page]] and edit it, then watch my page (via [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]]) for a response.
* If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
* If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] and get More Community Interaction Than You Or Your Grandmother Can Handle!
* Above all, '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. (In general, it's frowned on to delete other people's input on talk pages, but this entry is just here to be helpful. When it's done being helpful, I guarantee you won't hurt my feelings by ditching it!)

Sincerely, 
[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] and [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|the rest of the welcoming committee]] (02:13, 30 October 2005 (UTC))

==sighn up for d'ween party!==

sighn up! include costume![[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 21:36, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

:Hey, Jibney, just letting you know that it's not appropriate to spam everyone's talk pages with notices about your "party." Maybe you could have a "party" on Fanstuff Wiki, but not so much here. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 02:54, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

i was banned from the fanstuff wiki. '''cough'' untilnextyear '''cough''[[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 02:57, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Hm... It seems Homestar Coder is gently encouraging you ''not'' to get banned ''here''. Pretty much everybody who uses the wiki uses [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]], and will notice your party without being invited. (If they don't do anything as a result... well, that's their option.) And just so ''somebody'' is coming, put me down as wearing a fat suit and carrying a swordstick, as G.K. Chesterton (see [http://www.dur.ac.uk/martin.ward/gkc/pictures/index.html pictures]). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:21, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

::Actually, I just went and read the party as it stands now. I think it would be a good idea not to represent existing users in insulting ways (e.g. drunk), especially without their permission. Very creative, but please don't add me to the party until you've changed it. (Also, try to avoid embarrassing misspellings of user's names.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:36, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

fix'd![[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 03:58, 31 October 2005 (UTC) p.s. added you.

: Uh, all you did was change alcoholic drinks into "Coke" (whether you mean the cola or the drug, you didn't specify, but it doesn't really matter either way.) So you're still insulting us, just in a different manner. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:01, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

FIX'D again'd! now bedtime...[[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 04:07, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks for the invite and all, but I think the guys here are trying to give you good and sound advice. Listen, and appreciate the counsel they're trying to offer you. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:46, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff Wiki ==

Are you from the Fanstuff Wiki? I know Jibney is a recurring theme there. -Me, from teh HRFWiki.

yeah, but i got banned....i will not troll here though.-[[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 23:07, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

== Hello, Marshieman. ==

It's been a while. How's your, uh, hypothetical sister? --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 22:22, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Thatkidsam, are you inferring that Jibney is [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|Marshieman]]? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:28, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes. Yes indeed, I am. He has an identical grammar style, and he mentioned that he was blocked for 1 year. Marshieman was [[HRFWiki:Special:Ipblocklist|blocked for a year on the Fanstuff Wiki]] for being extremely annoying and disruptive. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 22:36, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Um, may I ask why he's not blocked right now ''here'' then? Marshieman caused us a lot of trouble until I requested a block from [[User:JoeyDay|Joey Day]].— {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:43, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

I have no idea. I didn't know Marshieman was alive and editing until I found him here. The admins can block him. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:06, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:It's probably because he wasn't causing trouble over here... Or was he? --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:07, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::He hasn't done anything major, but you can see what else he's done at his IP address, [[User:66.169.119.137]] and his old username [[User:Timmy!]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

yes i was marshieman! i didnt hack any account neither! i didnt even know who e-102 was at the time! you guys are wrong! and i'm mad totalspaceshipguy 3's unkown age user squad! grrr!!!![[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 00:32, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

"and i'm mad totalspaceshipguy 3's unkown age user squad"... Wow... Just wow... I would have thought your grammar would have improved with this year of inprisonment. (sp?) --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 01:06, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Waaait, is this guy blocked yet? I saw Marshieman's contribs (On this knowledge base, too), and he just admitted he was Marshieman. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 01:09, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:I think the Fanstuff Marshieman--i.e., this guy here--and the Marshieman who trolled here were different... The Marshieman who trolled here didn't seem the same as what I read on the Fanstuff user's talk page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

i am marshieman! what are you guys talkin' aboot? i made trogdor's blog,(though it got deleted)
and thatkidsam, it hasnt been a year! i get unblocked in august of 2006.
now i made a typo on uknown age user squad was just insulting. i never hacked any account![[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 03:15, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:So, here we have someone who is either a past serious vandal, or pretending to be one. Either way, this is like someone coming to Wikipedia and claiming outright to be Willy on Wheels. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

Hm... Seems that you have become your own inside joke. You're more famous than me! --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 21:57, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Marshieman; more popular then you? Man, we got to put that in teh running gags. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

== Captions ==

Jibney, this is Lapper from the Recent Changes Patrol. It is now requested of you that you stop vandalizing captions at the risk of being labeled a troll. You have already identified yourself as a persistent troll, so it is suggested that you don't put another splotch on your record. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:44, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

how is it trolling? i just dont like the captions. besides isnt this a wiki anyone can edit?[[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 16:47, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

:It is not trolling. That said, you have been randomly changing captions to completely irrelevant text. I request that you do this on your own userspace. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:50, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

the image caption on "that a ghost" says: "dig my grave" thats not funny, nor creative.[[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 23:18, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

== Heh heh... ==

E-102 from the HRFWiki was impersonating you the other day. Isn't that hilarious? I thought it was actually you! HA HA HA!!! {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

i didn't hack his account! i didn't even KNOW about e-102 then! GEZZZ![[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 21:46, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

No, I don't belive you hacked his account. I think it was his own stupidity that did it. And, some people are starting to suspect thing's about you. But I want to tell you something, your alot better then E-102. And I'm also starting to belive you are E-102. But, you probably aren't. But, don't worry, Marshieman, after we get this case of E-102, you, and the Hacker, then everything will be over with. Until then, I'll be interviewing you frequently. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 11:56, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

yeah,i hate to be blamed about something i didn't do. i'm not E-102 by the way. but i am better
then him. i can agree with that. that dark "e-102" was just an exuse for getting the feeling
of trolling. well i gotta go![[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 13:22, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, E-102 is just trying to get you in more trouble than you deserve. But, don't worry. E-102 is worse then you. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 15:35, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

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==Technical help==
===How to add images===
Here's a quick rundown of how to add images:
#If you haven't already, read the [[HRWiki:Image_use_policy|image use policy]]. Note that the PNG format is preferred.
#Over in the toolbox on the left, click [[Special:Upload|Upload file]].
#(A) Browse to the file on your computer. (B) Write a brief description in the summary area. (C) Click the copyright checkbox. (D) Click "Upload file".
#Place code on your page in the following format, usually at the very top of the page (although you can place it in other places): <code><nowiki>[[Image:IMAGE NAME|thumb and/or POSITION|SIZE|CAPTION]]</nowiki></code>

To make an [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Gallery|image gallery]], use the wollowing format:
:<code><nowiki><gallery></nowiki>
:Image:image1.png|caption 1
:Image:image2.png|caption 2
:Image:image3.png|caption 3
:<nowiki></gallery></nowiki></code>
Start each picture on a new line. You can use links and full wiki markup in the captions.

Click on these links here for a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial|tutorial]] and more [[MetaWikipedia:Help:Images and other uploaded files|technical info]] and [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Extended_image_syntax|syntax info]]. HRWiki policy allows [[HRWiki:User_page#What can_I_have_on_my_user_page?|one uploaded image]] per user with no questions asked. For an example, I placed the following code at the top of your page: <code><nowiki>[[Image:cheatgold.PNG|thumb|300px|I've got a gold tooth. Wanna see it? Tough!]]</nowiki></code> That's all. Have fun! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:33, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
:Thanx a bunch for telling me how to add images and adding an image and all that crap. Love your page. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
::Anytime, my friend. It's my pleasure. And thanks for your comments about my page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:56, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

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===How to revert a page===
*YO! I do like what you did to my gallery, but I'd like to revert it for the time being. I do want to change it to your suggestion in the future, though. But, um, how do you revert? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 02:56, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:It was more complicated than normal to revert your page since you had already made changes to it. Here are some basic instructions on how to revert:

<div style="margin-left:2em;padding:6px;border:1px dashed #666;background:#F5F5F5">
:'''To completely revert a page to a previous version:'''
#View the history of the page in question.
#Click on the time and date of the version to which you want to revert; this will bring up the page as it was.
#Click "edit" at the top of the old version; it will warn you that you're editing an out-of-date version.
#Type a comment in the summary, usually something like "reverted edit of so-and-so; changed to last version by what's her face".
#Click "Save page".</div>

<div style="margin-left:2em;padding:6px;border:1px dashed #666;background:#F5F5F5">
:'''To revert a page and keep some changes at the same time:'''
#View the history of the page in question.
#Determine what changes have been made since the version to which you want to revert.
#Copy the affected section to the clipboard. If there is more than one section, it may be necessary to do a normal revert (see above) and then make the changes again one at a time in later edits.
#In the page history, click on the time and date of the version to which you want to revert; this will bring up the page as it was.
#Click "edit" at the top of the old version; it will warn you that you're editing an out-of-date version.
#From the clipboard, paste in the new changes over the appropriate old section.
#Type a comment in the summary.
#Click "Show preview" to ensure that you pasted the new changes in correctly.
#Click "Save page".</div>

:In the section way above, I've included the syntax for the image gallery for whenever you want to go back to that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Thanx. One more helpful thing you can either

::A. Strong Mad Bath
::B. Crisper Drawer
::C. Be Cheatachu72's homeslice
::[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:17, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::I'll take (C). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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=== Where to link characters ===
I had a question. On the page for [[monster truck]], should "The Sad kids" and "The King of town" in the transcript be changed to include links to thier respective pages? FYI, the sentence that would be changed is "{The Sad Kids and the King of Town appear on screen respectively crossed out}". —[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]]

:No. Characters are never linked in the transcript. Instead, they are listed at the top of the page in the order in which they appear. Also, whenever you post something on a talk page, type four tildes after it, like this: "<code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>". That will automatically sign your name and put a timestamp after it. It looks like this: — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:06, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks! [[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 01:08, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::No probalo! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:09, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

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=== How to make the vertical line to appear ===
How do you make this vertical line appear? | It's used in a lot of links in the wiki, [[Strong Bad Email|like this]], but if I want to use the line, I always have to copy it from somewhere else. Can you press certain keys to make it appear? [[User:The Chort|The Chort]] 14:11, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:It should be on your keyboard. Mine's above the enter key. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 14:30, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Hmm...let's see: | Hey, it worked! Thank you! You're my new best friend at this wiki! [[User:The Chort|The Chort]] 14:33, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:No probalo... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 14:34, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::I'm glad I could bring you two closer together. I have nothing useful to say here, but since this is my talk page, I feel compelled to comment. The character The Chort is speaking of is called the [[Wikipedia:vertical bar|vertical bar]], or pipe. It is used in wiki markup to create [[Wikipedia:Piped_link|piped links]], [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table tables], and other things. As Amanda (H*C) said, the key is usually located at the extreme right of the keyboard, just above the Enter (return) key, grouped with the [[Wikipedia:backslash|backslash]]. On some keyboard configurations, the key is on the top row, just to the left of the Backspace (in this case the Enter key is about double its customary size and the Backspace is about half its normal size). To type a vertical bar, you must hold the Shift key. Well, I hope you enjoyed my short essay. I now return you to the wiki. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:46, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==STUFF reform==
=== The note ===

Here's the note you requested. [[HRWiki:IRC_channel]]?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:30, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I for the instructions, I have this:

:''{Tom's code moved here: [[User:It's dot com/instructions code]]}''

You need to fix up Section II, since I have no idea what's going on there. (And quite possibily sections I and III as well.) You also might want to check out some of the bulleted points in the [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion#Things_to_consider|things to consider]] section for when you write up the instructions. Well, good luck.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:58, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== STUFF help ===

I would be glad to help you out Dot Com. I'm bored and I'm really digging what you are doing here. Keep up the good work. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]]

:On an aside note, when the time comes will you need help turning all of the current STUFF'd facts to your format? If so lemmie know and I can help you out. When do you think the big change might occur? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]]

::I'm shooting for the middle of this week. Maybe there won't be a new toon this week. That would help. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Looks like you're about ready to make this happen. I would also be willing to help you and Tony with the big change, if you so desire. You know, taking what's currently in STUFF and putting it on the new page. There's a lot of them there. Just let me know. --[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] 03:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I welcome any help I can get. I don't know the best way to go about it. I figure we'll have to temporarily close the STUFF page so that people aren't trying to edit it while we're converting it. Also, I want to open the format up for others to test. I'm trying to get that done tonight. I think the format is really easy to use, but I ''made'' it, so there could be problems I'm not seeing. I'll leave you a note on your talk page when I have more to report, which shouldn't be too long from now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:: In case you didn't notice, I've discovered what is causing the problem in STUFF. Not external links in and of themselves (notice that "The Legend of Credits" has an external link.) It's the fact that there was an equal sign in one of the links. Try plugging a random equal sign into any fact (link or no) and see what happens. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:59, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

If you're looking for a response as to the new STUFF's simplicity, I would say it is pretty easy if you follow the directions. I do have a suggestion, though. For the how to revise page you have the entire template out for cutting and pasting, but the initial template setup has the optional things on parts of it. It might make it easier to take the optional notes and the false user votes off of that template so it's easy to cut and paste the entire thing. That's what I think anyway. Other than that, I think the new system is great. --[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] 19:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I went ahead an implemented everything, including Protecting all the templates and DELETING!! all the test pages I could think of. If there are others I missed, feel free to TBD them. I ended up erasing a lot of old Verdicted facts on the old STUFF page - dig through the history if you really feel you need them. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:42, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===New STUFF Verdicts===

The new STUFF looks prooty good! One little quibble: it appears that the original posting dates were not included when the open STUFFs were ported. My real question is: how should a VERDICT'D STUFF look? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:12, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

: The date thing was my fault. Anyway, I guess that a VERDICT should be another template or two, and should be put in place of the arguments and votes. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:02, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:: I fixed the dates. For verdicts, we can either move the items to the talk pages (like we do now), or they could be moved to a different subpage, like '''HRWIKI:STUFF Archive/pagename''', for example. If we use an archive subpage, we should put a reference link on the talk page with the fact in question and the verdict.<div style="text-indent:2em">As items close, they should definitely be ''moved'' somewhere. Otherwise, if down the line someone STUFFs something new from a page, all the old, closed facts will still be there. Once a template subpage is empty (all the facts have closed), the template subpage should be deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:13, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)</div>

The rest of this discussion has moved to [[HRWiki_talk:STUFF#Verdicts]].

=== <3 ===

My ace in the hole. You rock. Good prize. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:15, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Well, thank you! (But what specifically are you referring to? And what does "less than three" mean in this context?) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:18, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::Haha, "less than three" in this context means, "Yay! Heart!" This is just a random compliment for you. You know, because you're always cool. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:25, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Of course! Now I see. (I'm not a big emoticon user myself, so you'll have to forgive my ignorance here.) And thanks for the encouraging words! Great jaerb on the [[Biz Cas Fri 1]] transcript. It's always fun to help on those (especially since I rarely get the chance to do one — they're always done so quickly after a toon is released). Keep up the good troll fightin' recent patrollin' wiki gnomin' work! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:38, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I already congraturated you once, but way to go, again, STUFF guru! -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:45, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:As always, you are welcome. Just curious, what made you think to say that this time? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:46, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::Well, I was sitting in Recent Changes... and just looking at the two jillion STUFF edits you make every two jillion seconds. That's very cool. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:48, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::: Ha ha, it feels like that sometimes. The way I look at it, since I stirred up the waters by coming up with the format, I have an obligation to keep it as well-oiled as possible, and so I do a lot of maintenance on items, even if I don't actually participate in every vote. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:52, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::And well-oiled it is. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:57, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

=== STUFF query ===
Hey It's dot com, I just noticed that one of bottom 10's [[Template:STUFF/bottom_10|STUFF entries]] is not ever going to succeed due to the author's mistake. (The Knott's Berry Farm one) It is not true, and will not get a single acceptance vote. I just thought it might be best to close that one now and save everybody time. On that note, I have also noticed that you are the only one who ever closes STUFFed facts, and was wondering if you wanted a hand with that. I am willing to help you out if you want me to. Forever Young, {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 20:17, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:To tell the truth, I don't mind doing it at all; it's fun. But others are of course welcome to do it (this is a wiki, after all); and certainly you should at least know ''how''. (It's not difficult, but it ''is'' involved. The instructions are [[HRWiki:STUFF/Verdict|here]].) I dunno, like I've said to BazookaJoe, since I made up the format, I feel responsible for making sure all the gears mesh and turn like they're supposed to. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:49, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:P.S. I took care of that item like you suggested.

=== Anonymous STUFFing ===

Okay, it's one thing to say that Anonnies can't VOTE in STUFF facts. It's another entirely to say that they can't CREATE facts; I'd taken it for granted that they could. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:18, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:The rules state: "You may only edit arguments while logged in." I would think that extends to creating items. If a user cares enough about an item, he can log in to create it. If an item truly is important, a logged-in user has probably already made it anyway. As for this particular item, it was such a stretch that it would have been deleted outright from the page. If you truly feel, however, that it needs to go through the process, resubmit it anew (but I've got a thousand dollars I would bet as to how the verdict will end up). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:26, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Well, I don't disagree that it was a waste of space. I was more thinking about future reference—if someone actually adds a fact worth STUFFing. I suppose the only safeguards we had specified for unlogged users were votes and editing pre-existing arguments (it doesn't specifically say that unlogged users can't add facts or arguments) so I wanted clarification. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:44, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::I'll admit, I threw it out on a technicality. A technicality I would probably overlook if it had ''any'' merit at all. The last couple of days it seems like people are abusing the STUFF page, STUFFing the most trivial bits of nothing. I was trying to make an example of something that clearly deserved to get the ax, to try and nip this in the bud. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:52, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Fair enough. For example, I completely deleted a false "Fact" yesterday (regarding The Cheat's bendable arms never appearing before outside of Cheat Commandos, in spite of the fact that they'd been seen in [[caper]] and [[virus]]), so imagine my surprise today to find that it had been re-added (albeit prematurely Verdicted). Was it the same guy? How could multiple people make that mistake? And, as a result of your previous comments, I modified the "Add a toon/Add an item/Revise an item" instructions; now, all three say that you must be logged in. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:56, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::: "Early," not "premature." When several users find multiple instances that directly contradict an item, it is patently false and therefore not worth our time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:59, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Er, maybe my wording was a bit confusing, but I already knew that. I tend to refer to facts as "prematurely closed" when they're closed early no matter what the reason—even if I was the one who did it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:03, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Ah, I see. I took it in the sense of "before it should have been", but "before normal" works too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

==Thundercolor==
Hey Dot com. I noticed you gave me a color pointer on my talk page, which I'm greatful for. But what I didn't get was your pick? Which is your favorite? Thanks, ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|?]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|?]]</tt>'' 03:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
:My favorite is the one that's the easiest to read: #CD9B1D — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

::Oh, my bad. You were there. Sorry 'bout that. I think it was because of the two different styles of sig, or something. I dunno. I need more sleep... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|?]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|?]]</tt>'' 14:43, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

:::No probalo. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== WikiTroll ==

Hey, It's dot com. Just letting you know that you don't have to add to WikiTroll if the user has already been blocked. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:27, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Well, I started adding him, and then I got called away from my computer, and by the time I got back you had already blocked him. I ''did'' notice this, but since it's such a hassle to add somebody to the table (what with making a list of all their evil edits and whatnot) and since I had already gone to the trouble, I just hit "Save page" anyway. Plus, I figured if he did it again, there would already be a record there. (And yes, I know there's the blocked log.) So that's why. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Oh, I see. Sorry to bug you then. :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:50, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::No probalo. Besides, I like getting comments. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::Okay! Bother bother bother bother bother bother bother! [http://www.potterpuppetpals.com] {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:25, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::Whoa, ''weeeeird''. Funny, though. I especially liked the part where they busted out their M-16s to dispatch [[Wikipedia:Lord Voldemort|You-Know-Who]]. At Barnes & Noble, you can reserve a place in line, which I did, and I'm in the first group, so I will be one of the first thirty to get a book tonight at midnight. My [[Special:Contributions/It's dot com|contribs]] may be way down for a couple of days. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:17, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::::I'm getting mine tomorrow, via Amazon. And yes, I know weird links. Far too many weird links... ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:22, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::::I'll miss you two while you are lost in that other realm of fantasy. Have fun reading, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]]

::::::::Hold down the fort for us, BazookaJoe. Actually, I know you will... You're, like, ''always'' here. You're doing an awesome job, man. (But seriously, don't forget to see what the sun looks like every now and then. ;) ) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:::::::::I have been very bored this summer, and have had nothing to do but wiki. I'll be on a lot less once I start my job in a week or two. The Potter Puppet Pals are funny! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:49, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)
[[Image:sbemail127.png|thumb|shiny things!]]

Um hi, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]], I would like to point you to the [[Store]] page where if you check out the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&action=history history] you will see that the user [[User:Hydro|Hydro]] has been trolling the page constantly. I have not yet seen his name on the [[HRWiki:WikiTroll|Troll Page]]. Also, I like [[virus|linking]], and [[long_pants|shiny]] things! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:08, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hi Stux. If someone ever needs to be added to the troll list, then by all means do it. Don't even worry if you mess up the format... if you should encounter problems somebody will be along to fix it. I'll take a look at Hydro now. Thanks for bringing it to someone's (in this case, my) attention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:12, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

My apologies for bugging you again. I think i'm trying to upgrade my status from being Mr. Fix minor things to being Mr. Pain-in-the-behind Wannabe. What am I talking about? Basically, fact checking. To what extent should we do fact checking. I was checking [[Matt Chapman]]'s page [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Matt_Chapman&action=history history] and noticed that the last [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Matt_Chapman&diff=0&oldid=154227 change] added the misc fact: ''"*Can be seen as an audience member in one episode of '''[[IMDb:tt0163507|Whose Line Is It Anyway?]]'''"'' This is very general and my fingers are itching to revert it and leave a 'please provide evidence' note. But I haven't. Perhaps out of pity. Suggestions? (Do you have a fact-checking or fact adding set of guidelines even for admins?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:31, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Well, I hate to interrupt somebody else's conversation, but I checked this myself. If you look at Matt's IMBD page, it lists him as an uncredited audience member near the bottom. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I don't know about [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] cuz it's his message bored but I personally appreciate the interruption. Not to mention quick response! Wow, amazing, I didn't think they'd credit such minor things, but they did! Thanks [[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]! (and thank you [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] for letting me use your Talk page!) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:43, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==it's "Dot com"==
Hello. Thanks for letting me know about the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Talk:Strong_Bad_Email#Redirects discussion] regarding deleted redirects of the first two Strong Bad Emails. I was previously unaware of the accusations by Jay against me. By the way, may I call you IDC? It's an acronym of your username if you wouldn't mind me referring you by it. Thanks again. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 18:45, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I don't think he was accusing you, just perhaps mistaken. I alerted you to the discussion because I figured it pertained to you and therefore you could tell us why you thought it was better not to have the redirects. But if it wasn't you, then, obviously, you can't. Ah, well. I think the redirects are going to go forward (if E.L. Cool or others are still up to it). As for a short form of my user name, when people ask what it is, I say: it's [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]]. 19:26, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== The single deuce...not really ==

About Autobiography and the whole single deuce thing, you were right. I froze the frame and the way SB's holding his hand corresponds to his chin. Good call! —[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]]

:Thanks. Yeah, I guess Strong Bad's way more fond of ''double'' deuce action. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

==That one guy==

Hey man, I put your link on my page. Change it if you don't like the way it's linked. Everything is up for discussion on my page, go ahead and talk all you want and encourage others to do so also. [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 02:58, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

Thanks for all your help, um... where can I talk with people again? -it's that annoying guy again!

:Well, it's late. A lot of people are probably going to bed soon. Most people like to talk when something happens, like the release of a new toon. So check back on Monday. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:41, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, It is late, isn't it. I'm surprised you, BazukaJoe, and some other guy, are still awake... I'm too tired to spell rite.

Listen, In the morn' discuss the stuff I gots on me' page, if I'm around...n' stuff. [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 04:49, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)Thechamp

:Sure. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:53, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Hey! It's dot com, are you awake? [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 15:16, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Anyone know how long your supposed to cook beef stu? [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 18:20, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about the edditing, I just neede to get your attention.
Can you tell me who usually goes on the forums? [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 18:24, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Hundreds of people. Many of them are on this wiki. Many of them aren't. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:51, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

How come no one is talking about my Idea that I had? I thought it was good, does no one else think so? [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 18:35, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:This isn't exactly the wiki where people care about story ideas. Fanstuff like that goes on the [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org Fanstuff wiki]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:51, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

==Baseball fan!==

Hey Dot com! Are you a baseball fan?--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]]

:I should probably add this to my user page sooner or later, but I'm a ''huge'' fan of baseball, and Major League Baseball in particular, and more specifically the Texas Rangers Baseball Club. I've got my trusty Rangers ballcap on right now, as always. I've been to several games this year and plan on more. I don't live in the Dallas–Fort Worth area, otherwise I would have season tickets at Ameriquest Field. I make up for it by keeping track of the team on TV, radio, and at mlb.com using Gameday, Gameday Audio, and MLB.TV. I mainly follow the AL (my second-favorite club is the Yankees), but I do like some NL teams: the Nationals, the Astros, the Mets, and (sorry) the Cubs, to name a few. Tonight, as it turns out, the Rangers topped the Orioles, 4–2, in Baltimore. Yay! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Cool! You're only the second user I've heard of that is a baseball fan (other than me, there are two I've heard of). If you're not a ''huge'' cub fan then you won't bother me--and if you're not drunk, I'll be fine.--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]]

:Not a huge Cub fan, but I do pull for them as the perennial underdogs, especially now that the Red Sox have won it all. Even being a Yankee fan, when Boston was able to overcome a 3–0 deficit, when in Game 4 all Rivera had to do was put out the side in the ninth... well, at that point I was pleased to see the BoSox finally rid themselves of that blasted curse! (I can't remember, who was it they beat in the World Series? ;) ) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:24, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Yeah. I know, the Cardinals lost. I went to game four of the World Series, I was sad *sniffle*. I remember there were lots of Red Sox fans around us. One guy was talking to his wife on the phone the whole time. When the Sox won, my dad asked this red sox fan next to us, "What will you do now? This is your whole Idenity." And the red sox fan said back, " What year is it 86 years from now?"
But the cubs haven't won the series since 1908!--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]]

== Fanstuff ==

Do you have an account on the HRFWiki to? -- [[User:Strong Lad|Strong]] [[User talk:Strong Lad|Lad]]

:Yes, I do, but I don't much use it. I reserved the same username as here on the knowledge base so that I'd have it if I ever wanted to comment on anything there, and also so no one could impersonate me (not like anybody ''would'', but you never know). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

What is it? -- [[User:Strong Lad|Strong]] [[User talk:Strong Lad|Lad]]

:The same as here: [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== DVD ==

Hey, how's your stuff for the DVD coming? Are you still working on [[Puppets on the Road]]? Oh, and are you doing [[Sample of Style Too]]? Because if not, I think I am going to take a stab at rewriting its transcript today. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:35, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I see that the Sample of Style Too main part and outtakes are both just about done. I didn't read the transcript closely... you say you're going to ''rewrite'' it? I was working on Puppets on the Road, but I was wiped out last night and didn't finish it. I'd still like to complete POTR, but if somebody beats me to it, I won't be upset. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:38, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I wrote Sample of Style Too's transcript using snippets of [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005#Characer Animation Video|NYU Talk]]'s transcript. There were many differences between the two videos (see [[Talk:Sample of Style Too]]). I would love it if you could get Puppets on the Road up. It's funny and popular with fans and I'm sure they would love to read it. I don't mean to rush you, though. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:30, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::Nah, I just kinda got slammed with going out of town and then I actually had to go in to my job and do real work. Sometimes, I can goof off here, but not today. And tonight, I was in a softball game. And we won the game. And so we went and got real fruit smoothies. (Really.) I figured at some point someone would just go ahead and take POTR from me if I didn't get a chance to finish it. I'm not even at my home computer (where my DVD is and where I've done all the DVD stuff), or I'd do it now. So to sum up, if somebody else does it instead because I dragged my feet, that's cool; but otherwise, I can do it by later tomorrow. If ''you'' should do it, just drop me a note here so I won't worry. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:45, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::::I ''did'' finally have a chance to do this, in case anybody wondered how that story ended. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

==No swearing, huh?==
[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:record_book&oldid=120932 Talk:record book] Now, I'm trying real hard here to see what you're getting at, but I can't for the life of me spot ANY swearing in there. Care to point it out to me?
:Look [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:record_book&diff=120932&oldid=120930 more closely]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

What r you speekin aboot? Any who, Hay dot man? wana add your speechin to my talk payj? [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 22:23, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Sorry for the edit ==

Ya that was stupid of me, I just wanted to see if anyone would notice it and change it. I promise nothing of the sort will happen again. [[User:Sox101|Sox101]]

:Oh, we've got eyes in the back of our heads! Seriously, thanks for apologizing. I trust you'll be more careful in the future. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:42, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Speculation or no==
What was [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=lady...ing&diff=123490&oldid=123488 this] for? It's not merely speculation; it's a likely reference. --[[User:195.92.67.69|195.92.67.69]] 16:52, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Really? When an item is phrased using words like "could be" and "whether she actually did is debatable," it sure sounds like speculation to me. And you're not considering the fact that Marzipan breaks up with Homestar 50% of the time on her [[Marzipan#Character_Video_Transcript|character video]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Gah. I hate this wiki. Well, maybe not wiki, more like you and BazookaJoe seemingly cutting every edit I make. In fact, I'm going to stop editing this thing and just watch the cartoons in peace. --[[User:195.92.67.69|195.92.67.69]] 17:02, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry you feel that way. If you truly believe I or we are acting unilaterally, I will cheerfully STUFF the item(s) in question for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:13, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Thanks==
===Thank you from pertmywert===

Thankyou so much for all your help and ideas. I hope you can keep on being nice to me and I to you. Email me if you want. --[[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]|<big>[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|♥]] </big> 02:32, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Pertmywert, to answer the question you asked earlier, I think you're a fine user. You've made several good contributions recently, including some necessary reverts. Also, in all seriousness, I appreciate your willingness to welcome new users. I think your ♥ is in the right place there. (Side note: there's a link in your welcome template that says "me" but actually points to JoeyDay. Perhaps change "me" to "JoeyDay".)<div style="text-indent:1.5em">Remember that not everybody stays at their computer every minute of every day, so sometimes patience is required when waiting for a response. And it's an unfortunate fact that many of the users go unnoticed who do a lot of little but important things. It's like an umpire in baseball, who nobody pays any attention to when everything is going fine, but people rant and shout when a call is blown.</div><div style="text-indent:1.5em">A couple of pointers: whenever you're describing your edits, try to avoid emotionally charged words like "useless", etc. It's sufficient just to say "reverted such-and-such to version by so-and-so". Even better, try to find the good parts of an edit see if you can reword them so they fit into the article. (See [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=lunch_special&curid=1117&diff=108570&oldid=108569&rcid=55453 this edit] for an example.)</div><div style="text-indent:1.5em">To sum up, keep up the good work learning, gaining experience, and making quality contributions.</div><div>Sincerely, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:20, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)</div>

:P.S. ''{comment moved under image in subsection below}''

==== User Award ====

Congrats

You have won the favourite use award for this week (or month)

Here is your trophy

[[Image:fav user awards.PNG|thumb|none|100px]]

*Thank you for your FUA on 03:31, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC). I appreciate that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

====Fav User Award Page?====

Hey, It's dot com, is there a page that has the previous winners of the "Fav. User Award"? --[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 22:10, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Do you mean the one I got from Pertmywert? If so, I dunno; that's his page. You might check the history [[User:Pertmywert/fua|here]]. Or you could [[User_talk:Pertmywert|ask him]]. Hope that helps. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:19, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Thank you. You are undoutably awesome. [[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 22:28, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)
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=== Thanx from Strong Lad===

Thanks for the help with my user page -- [[User:Strong Lad|Strong Lad]]

:No probalo. My pleasure. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:29, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
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=== Thank you from Rogue Leader===
Thank you so moch for making the troll template. It is much easier to add trolls now. Thanks again! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}
:Copy, Rogue Leader! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:08, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
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=== Thanx from Rebecca ===
I also wanted to thank you! Thanx for helping me with some of the questions that I asked on my talk page! --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 05:42, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Any time you need help, I'm happy to do so. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:08, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
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===Thank You from bkmlb===

For helping me with my sig and being nice to me, you get a trophy http://jrsice.com/images/trophy.jpg ''sparkle sparkle''
--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 04:26, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:You're certainly welcome. Gotta look out for a fellow baseball fan. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:08, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
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===You deserve a Pizza Trophy!===
{| align="center"
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| [[Image:pizza_trophy_award.PNG|70px|"Congrats! Have a Pizza Trophy!"]]
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''I present this Pizza Trophy to [[User:It's_dot_com|It's dot com]] for his outstanding work and attention to detail on countless articles.

I've been meaning to award you for your tireless efforts here on the wiki. I saw the gift that bkmlb gave you and it reminded me what I had intended to award you. Hope you don't mind receiving two trophies in the same day! http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/emowink.gif {{User:The Paper/sig}} 05:52, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Thank you, The Paper! I appreciate it. Tireless efforts sure can be tiring sometimes, but it helps to have encouragement like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:00, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Concur'd! Those wiki projects you're all the time doing are hawt! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:46, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::You know, I was thinking that you deserved a Pizza Trophy for the Stuff reform. Lo and behold, here it is. Good prize! :D {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:34, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::Thanks, Amanda. Have fun at Disney World! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:56, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::I'm sure I will! (I'm not actually leaving until tomorrow, but I thought I'd put the message up in case I forgot in the rush of packing & everything.) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:00, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
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===Thanks from Payphone Ed===
"Homer no function beer well without." Thanks for fixing those things on the [[Linux Incompatibilities]] page. I think I need a nap or something. :3
--[[User:Payphone Ed|Payphone Ed]] 23:09, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Glad to help. I know the feeling... "No TV and no beer make ''It's dot com'' something something." "Go crazy?" "Don't mind if I do!" Actually, it's more like no TV and no ''Dr Pepper'', in my case. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:16, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== br format ==

I was just wondering why you changed the <tt> </tt> to <tt> </tt> on [[Template:Strong Bad Email]]. Both are standards compliant ([http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A//www.hrwiki.org/index.php%3Ftitle%3DTemplate%3AStrong_Bad_Email%26oldid%3D128594], [http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A//www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Template%3AStrong_Bad_Email]) so I was just wondering what made you make the switch. It's not a problem or anything, I'm just curious. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:36, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Well, earlier this week I read [http://forums.devshed.com/t204843/s.html this]: "IE generally does not seem to appreciate using br as a clearing agent. Too, the clear attribute is deprecated in html4 in favor of the style property." Since I figured we also preferred styles, I changed it when I noticed it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Okay, thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:55, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Martin F. ==

Hey, Its Martin F. lol Thanks for the inspiration. You and I both have a similar experience with being introduced wih Homestar. You do a great job editing. See you around the Wiki! --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 03:02, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks, Martin. See ya 'round! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:07, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== User page ==

'''''AWESOME''''' user page Dot com! Where did you find that template thing?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 14:51, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks, BK! I spotted the code for the stuff at the top on a user page over at WikiCities, and then I just adapted it to my page. I also decided to update a few things, expand a few things, add some new sections, and make the format more readable. I'm glad you like it! I just changed it yesterday... what led you to notice it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:40, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I don't know. I just look a recent changes alot and you're on there alot.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 17:21, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Go Bearcats!==
Are you from missouri or the area? The Bearcats aren't well known outside the area..
--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 05:17, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Actually, no, I'm not. I've only been to Missouri a handful of times. I confess I looked it up. Go google! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Brilliance==

You sir, are quite a genius. I was trying to figure out a good way of keeping the two [[Inside Jokes]] lists the same. Your solution for its sister page, [[Running Gags]], is perfect. Therefore I copied it on Inside Jokes. Thank you very much, and keep up the good work. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:28, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks, TBird! Organizing Strong Bad Emails in different ways I can understand. But it just didn't make sense to have two lists with identical information organized the same way. We misinterpret "[[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once and Only Once]]" around here, but this was a clear case where it fit perfectly. Thanks for the compliment! And I will keep it up! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I know, it was kinda a tricky thing. I suggested just making [[:Category:Running Gags]] the whole page, but Tom said they weren't meant for that. I never thought of just making the page link to the list, instead of being the list. Thanks for thinking of it. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:17, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==The Process==
Hey, '''Dot com''', it's [[User:Thesmokingmonkey|The Smoking Monkey]]. As you seem both knowledgeable and up front about how things get done, I thought I'd come to you. Recently, I've been doing the whole recent change patrolling bit, and have come up with the following questions:
*Do all edits done by anonymous users need to be reverted? I've encountered a few that are correct or beneficial.
*Conversely, if a registered user makes a questionable edit (say, for example, adding a goof or remark that is open to debate), what would I do? I've reverted a couple, and I need to make sure this is within the rules.

Thanks for any input you might have.

:Well, Smoking Monkey, anonymous users are more than welcome to contribute. I daresay ''everyone'' (with the exception of the handful of people who actually set up the wiki) started out as an anonymous user. They often have insight or experience that are invaluable to getting to the bottom of an article. The reason we keep such a close eye on people who aren't members is that it just happens that most of the edits that are redundant, obvious, or otherwise non-beneficial come from anonymous users. The vast majority of trolls are anonymous as well. So, to make a long story short, '''do not ''automatically'' revert anonymous edits.''' (Note: if we wanted, we could prevent anonymous editing with a simple setting; obviously, we have not chosen to do this.)

:If a logged in user makes a bad edit, it can be reverted just like an anonymous edit. '''Logged-in users get a little special treatment, however.''' First of all, it's polite to list a reason in the edit summary instead of simply rolling back the page. Second, if an edit is borderline, strongly consider starting a discussion on the relevant talk page instead of simply removing another user's work.

:I hope this helps. Don't hesitate to ask if you have further questions. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:02, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Understood. I don't want to be overzealous in reverting things - the last thing I want to do is step on toes and hurt feelings. But my "common sense" might not be so "common" to everyone. Trying to be careful as I go. -TSM

:::I just happened upon this discussion and figured I drop a word or two. My general rule of thumb is this: revert bad edits, keep good ones. Rewrite bad wording (there's *A LOT* of it). Have fun, be polite, but be bold! It's pretty simple, really! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:06, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::Thanks for the input! -- {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 17:13, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::That's an excellent way to put it, Tom (I've always assumed your name is Tom... your user page has never said anything other than "Hello world!"). I'll probably steal your rule of thumb and not give you credit, just so you know. ;) To it I would add one thing: if you ever have legitimate doubt about whether an anonymous edit is good or bad, '''take the action that leads to ''more'' content.''' That is, if someone adds something but you're not sure, then just leave it. But if an anonny deletes something (especially something big) that you think has merit, put it back.
:::There's ''always'' more than one logged-in user looking at these pages, so it all usually gets straightened out in the end. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:19, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Signature ==

Hi, It's dot com. I need your help.. your the only one I really trust to have enough patients with me! Anydangways, could you help me figiure out how to make my signiture stand out? I notice that alot of people do that, but I have no clue how. [[User:Homestramy20|Homestramy20]] 06:45, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh, never mind. The Paper helped me {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 06:48, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Glad you got that worked out. I made a couple of code tweaks for you so that the date would show up correctly on the same line as the sig. Wish I could've helped you more, but I've gotta sleep ''sometime''. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:51, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==[[:Template:sightingslist|New Template]]==

Thanks Dot Com, that color looks good. I'm just wondering about the centering. On the Email template (the one I modeled this one after), it's much larger, and fills the whole screen from side to side. This one doesn't, so on larger displays, such as mine, it's shifted to the left. Any idea how to center it? (And for the sizing, it's small on the Strong Bad Emails to save space. I don't think it'd be too bad to have medium font on this template, for easier reading and clicking). {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:53, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC) 
'''EDIT:''' I think the centering thing could be something to do with 'width="100%"' {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:55, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Er, I guess you haven't looked at the template again yet, because I already fixed the centering. All the other nav templates (SB email, answering machines, CD, DVD, etc.) use <nowiki></nowiki>, so I figured this one should, too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:04, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Hmmm... For some reason it still seems askew on my browser. Oh well, I don't care much. Like so many things on a wiki, I'm sure it'll somehow get fixed later, by someone else. And sorry about the sizing thing, I guess I'm wrong on that. In any case, I'm going to bed. Here's hoping the trolls do too. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:08, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::Amen to that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== Character screenames ==

Um, Mr. Dot com, sir.... I was just wondering if it was article-worthy to write about the AIM screenames of all the characters. Just a thought.... -- [[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]

:Let's have a brainstorm. What ''are'' all the screen names used by the characters? Just curious. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:26, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I know of hooray4dolphins for Marzipan (although it's debateable that Strong Bad was telling the truth), cheatachu72 for The Cheat, and depressio111117 for Strong Sad. There's also gr8lookinggrrl from i she be. Although, in my opinion, these aren't really worthy of an article. -- [[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]] 01:30, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Perhaps it could be noted in a specific spot on the character pages of those that are known, since we don't know them all. By the way, you don't have to call me sir. "Mr. Dot com" is fine. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:29, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Thank you, Mr. Dot com. I just felt it was noteworthy somewhere. --[[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]

:::I was kidding about the mister part, too. You can call me Dot com if you want. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

==Free Country USA==

'''It's dot com''', it's your friendly neighborhood '''Smoking Monkey''' again. I just wanted to comment on the [[Free Country, USA]] thing earlier today, because I've made you my unofficial HRWiki mentor and seek your advice from time to time on Wiki matters.

In any case, what caught my attention was an anonymous user dumped, say, 50% more info on the Free Country article. I've noticed over the weeks that 90% of anonymous edits tend to be speculation, stating the obvious, or just plain wrong. Let's say the other 9% are helpful typo, spelling and grammar corrections. It's that 1% that leads to doubt. This guy/gal radically expanded a decent article, but I couldn't tel whether the expansion was worthy or not. I know I was previously advised to err on the side of expanded content, but I've seen even registered users get slammed for adding little bits of info to articles. This guy/gal added a lot, and when I first saw it, I balked. It seemed like speculation, so I reverted.

Then '''Mr. Bojangles''' re-reverted. I looked at it a second time - this time I saw disconnected thoughts that added only confusion - so I reverted ''again''.

Then '''you''' reverted my change, and I looked at it a third time. This time, I saw neither speculation nor confused thinking - only prose that needed refining.

I admit I've been in a bad mood recently, and have been, er, draconian in my enforcement of what I perceive is appropriate for the Wiki. I admit I was wrong reverting this article across the board.

Hopefully I made it up by actually adding to and trying to improve on the additions of the anonymous (and British) user - I got a little too caught up in making sure others play by the rules...

Faithfully patrolling the Wiki, {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 00:26, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Your characterization of anonymous edits is probably dead-on accurate (except when pages are first being created, which isn't that often, relatively speaking). If someone has something important to add, they usually take the step of registering first. Most of my edits were relatively minor until I registered. In fact, it was when I was trying to add something more substantial that I was encouraged to join.

:I appreciate that you consider me something of a mentor, and I take seriously my responsibility to you and others I help. I carefully consider any advice I give, and it is always my hope that each user's experience here is improved by my input. This can't always be the case when someone disagrees with me, but in cases like that I try to be as diplomatic as possible. As far as anonymous users go, I try to incorporate any part of their contributions that I can—anything—so that they will feel important and be comfortable enough to finally become full contributing members.

:In ''this'' specific case, you may notice that I didn't do a straight revert, but rather cleaned it up a bit before adding it back.

:If there's anything else I can help you with, you know I will. Besides, we 28-year-olds have to stick together. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:42, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I see you're taking your critical, incisive eye to my runway pet project ([[Free Country, USA]])- and it's about time. Of all the times I've proof-read, and internally debated the structure and the "facts" of the article, I knew that others would need to parse and improve on my own thoughts. And, speaking of my own thoughts, all I have to thank for my (irrational?) devotion to this article is some anonymous British kid I tried to censor.

::In any case, I think most of it holds up well.

::I really need to sleep,

::{{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 02:49, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::Sleep well, Dave. Irrational devotion to articles, by the way, can strangely be a good thing, and is therefore completely welcome around here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:19, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

''(For more on specific parts of the above article, see [[Talk:Free Country, USA]].)''

==Offline==
Hey It's dot com! I was wondering what you did with the 2005 updates page? Was it a ploy to annoy the troll? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:08, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hey Rogue. That troll is not a person; rather, it is some kind of bot that searches for the different sections on the page and adds links under each one. My reasoning was that if I removed all the sections, it would have nothing to do, and would quit. In the meantime, I put up a notice so that any regular user who was looking at the page would be aware of what was going on. I don't know whether my actions actually did anything, or whether it was just coincidence that the attack stopped (almost) at that point. Only further research will tell. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:14, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Another positive consequence: it may help the bot move on to less-visible pages. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:32, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::It just happened again, and this time I think blanking the page actually did some good. The bot made one more attempt after I blanked it, but then it moved on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:27, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Man, you're the man! ==

How can you not be a sysop? You are one great user. When I read others' talk pages, you are alweys there to halp and give advise. Your edits and comments are alweys constructive and truthful. Your are the awesomest thing ever. Would you write a song about me? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:23, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Sorry for not replying sooner (and I don't mean because the database was locked), but things were already in the works (see the thread two down from here), just not yet official. It's been a while since I wrote a song (I've written a few, but it was always for a class), but maybe I'll see what I can do. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== How old are you??? ==

Well. How old are you??? (Pertmywert)
:Twenty-eight. Almost twenty-nine as of this writing. Why? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:15, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Just Wondering. {{User:Pertmywert/sig}}

== Sysop ==

Just letting you know, you have been given [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysop]] privileges. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:28, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:To JoeyDay, Tom, and all of you who have supported this, thank you from the bottom of my heart. I promise to fight for truth, justice, and the wiki way, and to always use my powers for good, and for awesome. Sincerely, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] — 17:23, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Congrats, Dot com, and thank you for all the work you put into this wiki. Whether it be STUFF, troll fighting, public relations, revising, rewriting, copyediting, collaborating, you always do a top-notch job. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:49, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::Dot com! Conga rats, yo. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:01, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::Please forgive me for the delay in these combolations. This is an honor you've deserved for quite some time now, glad to see you can finally block all of those trolls that irk us so. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 03:45, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::Here here, congrats! You've finally been endowed with the tools you so desperately deserved. (I was on the chat channel when JoeyDay first awarded them their powers, but it doesn't hurt to congratulate twice) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:56, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::::'''Combolations, Valerie'''! You'll no doubt do an outstanding job as sysop! {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 11:24, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Jay here. I see from the Recent Changes page that the two of you were named sysops at the Homestar Runner Wiki. Way to go! Join the elite ranks! I was actually thinking a while back that you two would make [good sysops], though I played no part in the actual decision. I'd congratulate you on the Wiki itself, but, well... ''(from [[User:Jay|Jay]] via email at 09:35, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC), sent while the wiki was locked)''
:::::::: To note, the above was also sent to BazookaJoe (who was named a sysop at the same time). I wasn't really expecting it to appear on this Wiki... But you guys both help out a lot around here, from refining STUFF to troll-fighting to whatever, so I do stand by what I said. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:29, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Bricka bracker firecracker sis boom bah! Dot com dot com rah rah rah! {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:51, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::I'm a little late to the party, but I still wanted to congratulate you on the recently-acquired sysop privileges... Ahem, "pri-vah-lah-gez". http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/sbgif.gif Mazal tov! {{User:The Paper/sig}} 23:58, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::::Congrats!!!{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 04:04, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::::Way 2 go!!! You da bomb! {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 02:40, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Once again, thanks to everyone who has left a note here! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== Fanstuff Wiki ==

Thank you for telling me. Man, I feel stupid right now... --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 19:23, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Don't feel dumb. Stuff like that happens to all of us. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Pronounced with an "RWiki" ==

This is a bit trivial, but an interesting fact. As you know, I'm all hung up on England, and even spent three weeks there. In response to your question 'wouldn't it be pronounced aitch-are-wiki?', the answer is 'no'. Not in England. Just the same way they pronounce the letter Z as 'zed', they also put an H sound in front of H, making it 'haitch' or something thereof. I'm not sure if this is of significance, but it's an interesting fun-fact nonetheless. I think so, anyway. But since the Wiki (and H*R itself) are American-based, your 'an HRWiki namespace' would technically be correct. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:What do I think of the English, huh? Oh, I'll tell you what I think of the English! ''{the rest of this post has been BANNED IN THE U.K.}'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== Blockquote ==

How do you make that "blockquote" (i'm not sure what it is called but thats what it said in editing) where it shows what Strong Bad wrote on his computer on the transcripts? Is there a way to do it in HTML or just plain text? I'm just curious, because I think it will be so cool if I write my internet blogs like that.

Thanks again and again. You are the one user that I always go to for help! THANKS!--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 19:22, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry for the delay in responding. I might suggest that you would get a faster reply by posting questions to the [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]]. Anyway, it's possible to recreate the blockquote style outside the wiki, but you need to know some CSS and where to find it. First of all, the HTML (<nowiki><blockquote> ...blah blah ... </blockquote></nowiki>) is the same as the code you get when you press "edit", so you could just copy one of those to practice. What you need then is the various definitions for "email" found in [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] (and possibly other CSS files... check the source code of a wiki page to see what they are). Also, you would need the image of Strong Bad's face copied and saved to your server. It sounds kinda coplicated, but I hope this helps. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:55, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== WOW ==
Hey, '''Ben.''' I know you probably noticed, but we had a WOW-style vandal before (Homestar walker). But he...apologized? He seems a tad confused. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 18:01, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hey, '''Dave.''' I did notice. In fact, I deleted all the bogus redirects I could find. I think I got them all. As for blocking him, I wasn't sure whether to do it. If blocking would lead to more vandalism but ''not'' blocking wouldn't, then I'm willing to leave well enough alone. I was actually seeking advice from Joey and/or Tom, but neither of them seems to be online right at the moment. Obviously, if Willy or whoever this gets so much as a toe out of line again, he'll get the indefinite block. What do you think? I haven't been able to get in touch with any of the other sysops, either, so he could yet be blocked by one of them and this discussion would be moot. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:12, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::'Tis rather curious. I can't help but feel we're being blackmailed by the devil. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:15, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::Hmmm...since it was my first WOW-battling incident, I was bit hot afterwards, ''especially'' when he came out and said "sorry" and then "if you try to block me, I'll just do it again." It all seemed typically sophmoric to me - clearly he was having fun moving the same four pages over and over and over again, but then he lost interest and indicated he wanted to contribute. Essentially, he was malicious, but only so long as it saved him from being bored.

:::Your point is well-taken, though: if we can't actually block him because of the AOL loop-hole, then I guess it shouldn't be a problem if he continues behaving like a normal user. I'm not big on holding grudges, and if '''Venusy''' and '''bkmlb''' (the other two users caught up in the battle against him) don't have a problem with him staying on, then I don't have a problem.

:::That is, until he gets bored again! {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 10:56, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC) (Incidentally, the idea of a smoking monkey on wheels is pretty funny in and of itself)

::::As long as he doesn't do it again, I don't have a problem. And you're right, the concept of a smoking monkey on wheels is pretty funny. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 12:12, 24 September 2005 (BST)
::::'''EDIT:''' I shouldn't have used MS Paint to do [http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/smokingmonkeyonwheels.png this] in 5 minutes.
:::::Dude, that's hilarious! I wonder what kind of mileage he gets? {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}}11:35, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== sysops ==

I was wondering, how do you become a sysops?
-lil stiny

:I have actually written on this subject on several other pages. Below is a copy of [[User_talk:Homestar_Coder/MayAug2005#I_have_a_big_query.|this discussion]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:19, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

<blockquote>Hey AtHC, How do people become Administrators? I've been thinking about that... -Kinsey

:I don't want to presume to speak for Aurora, but I've written at length about this very subject on [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Balmung_of_Azure_Sky&oldid=96317#Welcome this page], if that helps. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:42, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::''Here is the relevant text from that page:''<blockquote>Becoming an admin, as they're also called, is a good goal to have, but it doesn't happen overnight. Basically, you start out at the bottom of the totem pole, and work your way up. Over time, people will begin to notice your edits; you'll want to make good ones. If you do, gradually a sense of trust will develop between you and the wiki community. In the meantime, fight [[HRWiki:WikiTroll|trolls]], add good [[stuff|fun facts]], [[Special:Recentchanges|monitor]] pages for bad edits, help out with the maintenance of the site, learn the ins and outs of the software. Undertake a worthwhile project (but ... it's best to get approval before doing so). Then, sometime in the future, the current admins will open the floor for nominations for new sysops, at which time another user can throw your name in the ring. Then, we'll all vote on you. They probably won't nominate new admins for a while, and when they do, maybe you'll be nominated, maybe not. Either way, keep on keepin' on making good edits and building up that trust. It's just that simple!</blockquote>

::I'm glad you posted that, It's dot com, because it's a good explanation! Definately monitor for edits, learn to recognize good and poor edits, and always be diplomatic in discussions. Undertaking worthwhile projects (with wiki-approval first) is a great way to contribute and be noticed. To all of this, I would add that you should think about why you want to become an administrator. If you want to be an administrator to have more power, that's the wrong reason. It's about responsibility, not power, and it sometimes involves doing unpleasant things. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:46, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
</blockquote>
teehee, the entire time I was reading this I'm picturing It's dot com sitting at his compy/lappy dictating this message in the best strong bad impression he can make. The question was very similar to several of the sbemails and the answer was just as good except it didn't make fun of lil stiny (I'm not saying he should have, but that was the only difference) [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
:No, I wouldn't make fun here. I just have already thought long about this question and felt that the previous discussion (especially including the reply by Homestar Coder) covered the subject well. Thus, it was practical to copy and paste. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:34, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Super-plain link==

Is there any way to link something, but keep it just a regular black color, without underlining or anything? perhaps some kind of color tags or a 'no underline' tag before and after? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:42, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Sure. One of the words in this sentence [[Blue Laser minion|is]] a link to a page. If you wanted to be really sneaky, I think you could even force it not to show the "hand pointing" cursor that is usually displayed when you're over a link. Out of curiosity, what makes you ask? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:58, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Hmmm... The link is still underlined. And It's not that I want it sneaky, I still want the hand to pop up. I just want uniformity. Is there any way to get rid of the underline? Then I'll let you know why. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:04, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::I will have to do more research. I don't know why the text-decoration property isn't being correctly displayed by your browser. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:28, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== block ==

what does it take to bann someone? [[User:Lil Stiny|Lil Stiny]] 02:39, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:That depends. Why do you ask? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::i just fixed some vandalism and i was wondering [[User:Lil Stiny|Lil Stiny]] 02:42, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::Ah, I see. Well, here is our official [[HRWiki:Blocking Policy|blocking policy]]. Whenever you notice vandalism, leave a note on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]]. Try to follow the format as best you can, but don't worry if you don't get it quite right (someone will fix it for you). The sysops check that page and block vandals and trolls listed there. Hope that helps. Oh, and I went ahead and took care of the guy you mentioned. Thanks for looking out for the wiki! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:55, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Senor Cardgage Mortgage ==

I checked those two Fast Forwards for you. They were indeed factual. However, they still don't qualify as Fun Facts in my book. The "Fun" part is seriously lacking on those two, in my opinion. [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]] 21:18, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Right. It wasn't that I thought that they were untrue, just that they didn't really qualify as references. Thanks for checking on that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:20, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Pasta Salad a go-go ==

Hey, Ben. Thanks for, um, clarifying the tone of my voice for the whole Pasta Salad talk Page boondoggle. It's easy for me to forget no one around here (short of you) really has any idea who I am. Life's kinda throwing me a curveball right now, and as an artist, I tend to get irrational about my work (even if it's three sentences about Gron Mad eating elbow macaroni). I wasn't trying to be a jerk. Anyway, thanks as always for the classic Dot com level-headedness. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 22:28, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Well, Dave, I just knew you wouldn't make an article—on whatever subject—without a positive reason, and certainly not to make a point. As far as I can tell, that's not your style. And I felt I needed to step up and say so, so I did. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Geddup Noise ==

It's dot com, it's getting pretty ugly over here at [[geddup noise]]. There is a constant revert/add between whether the KOT says Booo or Dooo. Maybe someone should add a footnote about the transcript, like in [[boring (really)]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:36, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Archives==

I wasn't sure where to ask this, but you seem to know alot. So what exactly is this archives.org that people keep retrieving treasures from? How does it really work, and would you be able to provide me with an answer to my question on [[Talk:some kinda robot]]? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:50, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not really all that familiar with that, TBird. You might try the FAQ talk. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== Greetings ==

Hey there It's dot com, i got your message from my talk page thanks for the greeting.

I'm new to Homestar runner wiki, but i'm also a member of Wikipedia it self, so i know about this (~) to write my name, and how to upload images ETC.

Lets get to know each other a bit:

#How did you find me so quickly?
#whats your real name?
#whats your speciality in Hrwiki?
#are you a member of wikipedia? if so whats your user name?

hope so see your reply.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:05, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Well, Nikolce...
:#I saw you create your user page in the [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]].
:#Ben.
:#Read all about me on my [[User:It's dot com|user page]].
:#I edit Wikipedia as an anonymous user from time to time, but I'm not a member.
:Again, welcome to the wiki! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

by the way it's dot com, when you reply, reply the message to my talk page, it's just easier to know i have s new message, but thats if you want to. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:45, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Actually, Nikolce, I'm a big believer in keeping threads in one place. But you're welcome to add me to your [[Special:Watchlist|watchlist]] if you want, at least until you get a reply. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Reynold ==

Alright, I have to ask. As my first bold attempt at helping keep the peace in this particular Wiki, I remove a Wikipedia reference to pizza. Why is a link to such a common food necessary? [[User:Come back, chocolates!|Come back, chocolates!]]
:Where is the harm in including it? The article is interesting, and you might be surprised how much pizza differs in other countries from the U.S. version. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:52, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::No harm per se, it was simply my motivation to prevent the building a precedent of Wiki-linking every common object, regardless of its history. But I digress. -[[User:Come back, chocolates!|Come back, chocolates!]]

==Encountering trolls==

Uh... I think i just found a troll. What do i do? --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:17, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:First things first... what did you find? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

::Oh wait, dorian gray deleted it, i think. It was on the user page [[User:Aussie Evil]]. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:20, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh good, thanks for blockin them. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:25, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Below are some general suggestions for anyone who might be faced with this issue in the future. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:40, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

'''If you find a troll, especially one in progress:'''
*Revert each affected page to the last good version (the instructions for reverting are at the top of [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]]).
*''Use the edit comment "reverting trolling".'' This will help the sysops notice something is wrong.
*Make an entry on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] for the troll. If no sysops are around at the time of the vandalism, they can check the list and make appropriate blocks later.
'''Some things to remember, especially in the face of a serious attack:'''
*Remain calm.
*Remain professional.
'''Some things ''not'' to do:'''
*Do not feed the trolls.
*That is, do not put anything in edit summaries that would encourage them to continue their attacks.
*Likewise, do not try to reason with them or taunt them on their talk pages.
Hope that helps! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:It does, thanks!!!! --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 22:14, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Edit comments==
How does one make editing comments? -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 21:43, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Click "edit" at the right over there → . Then look just below the editing window. See where it says "Summary"? Type something in that box. That's how you leave an edit comment. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Alphabetizing Categories and Catchin' Trolls==
This seems like a good place to put stuff... I don't wanna clutter your talk by making new categories, that's why I keep piggybacking my messages. Ever thought of Archiving!? (gasp!) Hehe. Anyway on to ''buisness'':
*Ooooohhh! Right! So that's what it does. I thought it changed how the entry looked in the category list, and seeing no change, thought it did nothing. I had to remove it cuz it was autolinking to PseudoCharacters edit page, and I am sure I had created the link after I made the page. And I think I tried to purge... the hard way... Maybe? Anyway thanks for the fix!
*BTW check out my first troll person report!
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:10, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:    If a comment really is a continuation of an earlier thread, then go ahead and piggyback, but if it's a new thought, then it's perfectly fine to (and I prefer that you would) start a new thread. :) I reorganize my talk page from time to time and it helps me keep everything straight. As for archiving, I'm probably gonna put it off for at least a little bit longer. Only recently has this page exploded to the point that archiving would be necessary. If you want to see a page really in need of being split, look at [[User talk:Tom|Tom's talk page]].
:    As for the user who deleted things, well, he's not a troll. You may disagree with the things he deleted, but each example was something that is borderline. I even agree with a couple of them. Also, there's no reason to think that he saw the message left him in the edit summaries. Most anonymous users probably never look there. If you need to leave him a note, you should do so on his talk page.
:    Sorry for removing him from the troll list, because I can tell you're proud of it and that your heart is in the right place. Don't worry... there'll be plenty others. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:36, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah.... I was proud of it. You're quite observant! :). Bye troll edit :'( ... ;) To me they looked like random edits removing credible information. He was just over that side of the line (except for his first edit). Oh well. Next time! Catch ya later! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:36, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==IP block issues==
Yo, Mr. Dot Com, might I ask why you keep blocking my IP address every time, and also mark me as a "repeat offender?" I asked nicely for you and the other sysops to fix the rpoblem of this, because it's getting extremely frustrating for me when I want to edit something and I can't because somebody with a similar IP addy is trolling the site. This is now the fifth time that something like this has happened, and the second consecutive time that it's been you who has blocked me. I know you're just trying to do your job, but it isn't fair to people who follow all the wiki rules to be blocked just because of idiotic trolls who like to delete pages and add cuss words to them. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 01:57, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:I apologize for any inconvenience, ISlayedTheKerrek. I will be happy to investigate your situation further, but I need some more information. What was the IP address that was blocked? When did you notice the problem? How do you connect to the Internet? I have reviewed the block log, and any blocks I have imposed for any real length are for what I consider serious infractions. There have been only three occasions when I have used the comment "repeat offender," only one of which was recent. In addition, the IPs fitting this description have had zero legitimate edits. Unfortunately, since this seems to be a recurring problem, it may not have a simple solution. There are some real jerks out there whose mission in life seems to be to spoil the fun for everybody else. We appreciate your patience and understanding as we try to sort this out. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::My IP address, although I don't know EXACTLY which one it is offhand, is in the 205 range. Note this as well...I am not editing from my computer at this exact moment, as you again have blocked me because of the reason I stated before. I hope you can find a way to fix it soon, because this is now time number 5. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:28, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::KerekSlayerDude: You can check your IP by going to [http://www.ipchicken.com IP Chicken]. Let us know the exact IP that is blocked and we'll see if we can get the block removed. Thanks. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:54, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::Well, my current IP address according to IP Chicken is 152.163.101.7, which has changed in the last couple of days from the 205.whatever it was before. Right now, I'm able to edit from my computer, so all is good for now. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:51, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, Kerrek. If you have this problem in the future please let us know. Again, we're sorry about the inconvenience. We appreciate having you around and hate to see good productive members getting blocked an behalf of nasty trollers. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 16:18, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::::Actually, he ''slayed'' the Kerrek. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::::ISlayedTheKerrek, if you ever find yourself blocked from editing again, please simply email a sysop or [mailto:admin@hrwiki.org the Admins] a short note explaining the situation. Make sure you include the IP address that appears on the blocked notice. It is easy for a sysop to unblock you, you just need to supply us with the proper information and remain calm. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:34, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== ATTENTION: this is a joke, don't take it seriously ==

I thought you of all people would know that it's against the rules to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sick_Day&curid=12730&diff=0&oldid=157606 tamper with other people's comments]. I'll let it slide this time, but try to be more careful in the future. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 15:46, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Well, at least I justified it by doing it for no good reason whatsoever. ;) ...Seriously (and I know you said don't take it seriously), you ''can'' fix others' formatting to a point, so long as you don't change the ''content'' of their comments. And, for purely aesthetic value, those color words really needed to be colorized. I would have gone with green for "greediest" (which of course is not a color word, just different from "greatest"), but it was already taken by "greenest." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, I know... Just a little too bored this morning. I usually don't let it get the best of me, but what can I say. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:04, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::Likewise, I only replied (partly) seriously because I don't like comments to go unanswered, especially on my own talk page, and I couldn't think of what else to say. Also, if someone comes along and reads this later, I wanted to explain it so they'll have a clue as to what we were talking about. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:18, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::Hey, it's my sig color! *is greediest* :p {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:10, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== IRC channel ==

How ... do you join it? This little experience has made me like this wiki, more, and now I want to join the chat channel. HOW?!?! {{User:H*R 700/sig}}
:There are several ways, but the easiest way is to go to [http://chat.hrwiki.org chat.hrwiki.org] and follow the instructions there. See also [[HRWiki:IRC channel]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:56, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Hi from H*L! ==
Hallo! I was ''so'' glad that my new page was noticed by a Wiki legend like yourself... Anydangway, it's cool to be welcomed into the Wiki community. I seem to be gaining popularity among current and former music students. Keep on tranglin'. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 04:33, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Sorry for the late reply. I must have missed your comments. A ''legend''? Heh, I don't know about ''that'', but it's kind of you to say. And tranglin' is my middle name. Well, actually "dot" is, but if I ever changed my name, it might be to that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's tranglin' com]] 23:33, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

== Help creating welcome template? ==
I'm kinda embarrassing, since this is the sort of thing that seems like it ought to be easy to find an answer to—but it hasn't been. I want to start welcoming folks formally, and thought it would be nice to make an adapted welcome message of my own. I know doing this would involve creating a subpage in my userspace—but I have no idea how to go about that. Thanks! —[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 05:32, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Oooo! May I? (answer this one?) Making templates and new pages is really easy. So I hope I can explain well. First things first, new pages. All you need to do to create a page is to go to it and start editing it. Make sure you save the page, so it actually writes something down to create the page! Suppose you wanted to create a page called "strombalos" under your user space, then you'd go to [[User:notstrongorbad/strombalos]] (notice how it's in red now -- if you click on it now it'll take you straight to the edit page), and start adding information. It's that simple! You can even (from your user page) type the new URL yourself and start it that way. As for templates: all you need to do for the basic form is to put regular wiki code. There is more on templates that you can learn [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template here], cuz they have neat stuff like variables and the like. There is more general help [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Section here]. Now for your specific case, you want to make a welcome page for our guests. I won't go into detail here, but you must use the template format in a special way. Suppose you had a template [[User:notstrongorbad/welcome_template]] in that page. Then you inject the code: <code><nowiki>{{subst:User:notstrongorbad/welcome_template}}</nowiki></code> into the victims', er, guests page and hit submit. It will inject the code and replace the contents of the template in his page. To practice, you can always use the [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]]. Good luck! I hope this helps. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:57, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::And that's what I needed to know! DONK! Many thanks. —[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 08:12, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Block ==

Dot com, you blocked me then unblocked me.-24.24.226.13

:Yes. You keep messing with [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]], and it's hard to tell whether you're doing so maliciously. I suggest not doing that. The time that I blocked you, I thought you were blanking the page; then I realized those had recently been moved to an archive. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:10, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Hyphen?! ==
(in regards to Freshley's) I know it's an apostrophe; I have no idea what I was thinking when I made the edit. Just so you know that I'm not completely stupid. :-) The reason I reverted the edit, though, was even though it's correct, the display of the link is really funky, and for readability, it probably needs to be without the apostrophe, correct or not. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:19, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not sure what you mean by really funky. I just looked at it again, and it looks normal to me. Either way, it's correct with the apostrophe, so it probably needs to be with it, funky or not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:22, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
::At least for me, the external link box doesn't show up, unlike next to Mrs. Freshley's and the like, so there's several spaces between the word Shaw's and the text that follows it (such as Shaw's____and then text). But yeah, it does need it. That's why I had added it in the first place, but then I figured that it wasn't in the word because the link looked weird, so I took it back out. So it turns out that an edit of mine that I reverted was reverted back. Or something. My head hurts. — [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 05:07, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sandbox Talk ==

Since talking through Sandbox edits can get old, I figure I'd at least close the conversation here! :) Anyway thanks for the help making the edit easier, even if I was done by that time. At least I have a better idea of how play around with this more efficiently! :D --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:35, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Heh. Yeah, I was gonna follow along with what you were doing, but all that extra stuff kept getting in the way. Oh, well. Glad I could ''almost'' help. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Regarding the Article of the Day==

Thanks for the image revert. I probably should have discussed the choice of image earlier, but hindsight is 50/50. I didn't exactly have my heart set on any one image, since the one I came up with originally was a different one altogether. I could see an edit war happening with this feature, what with like 50 images to choose from. I just wanted something easy to make out and understandable, that embodied the early Fanstuff, particularly drawings (since they don't usually feature those anymore). But the Matrix parody is a fun, clever, simple pic, and one that TBC also meantioned in the FAQ. Thanks for keeping watch. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:15, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:I've protected images on the main page before. Are we also supposed to protect featured ''articles'' as well? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:31, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
::If it's changed again, we could just protect the article. I don't think usually, since alot of users link stuff, fix wording, ect. Perhaps something similar in the future might warrent a featured article overview protect. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:47, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== 2D Boombox ==

I just rewatch Sibbie. It looks like the radio gets thinner which would make it a goof as it loses normal aspect ratio but I wouldn't care so much if this doesn't make it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:34, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

== E-mail this User ==

Hey, It's dot com. Just wondering what's up with the E-mail this User feature. Whenever you press the link, it says that you need to log in or enter a valid email address in your preferences. Any ideas what's wrong? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:09, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

:Have you entered a valid email address in your preferences? Have you confirmed it?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:19, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

:[Edit Conflict] You need to validate your email address using the link in your prefs. Also, if the person you're trying to email hasn't enabled the feature, you won't be able to send one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:20, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

== Merry Birthday! ==

[[Image:fanstuff cake.jpg|left|thumb|170px|the only birthday cake I could find on such a short notice!]]I assume that from your [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AIt%27s_dot_com&diff=182812&oldid=181207 edit] that on this day October 25, 2X years ago you were born!? Well, a happy birthday cake to you too! Congratulations! Next year you'll have to tell me what the big 3X feels like cuz I'm not that far behind ... (ok I'm slightly less than halfway there)... Congratz! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:57, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
::Happy T!, I mean happy birthday. {clears throats and prepares to sing} "This is your birthday song, it isn't very long! Hey!" {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:04, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Sweet, sweet Dot Com, Today is the day on your real (?) I.D. 
Now, get upstairs—unh! And fix me some new pages! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:09, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:Hehehe... Ah, you thought you could hide it from us with your ever-so-subtle edit coz you knew people'd make a big deal out of it, yeah? Lo, but we wiki users are too sharp for that. No edit escapes our eyes. Yea unto the dawning of a new era... or just another It's dot com birthday. Seriously, though. Happy birthday, and all that. Interesting... Next year, I'm assuming you'll be hitting 30. I'll be hitting 20 just before that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::DorianGray wrote - "Next year, I'm assuming you'll be hitting 30." Sarcastic reply - yep that usually comes after 29.
::DorianGray wrote - "Lo, but we wiki users are too sharp for that." reply - no we just don't have a life, at least not one that others would understand.
:: Again, Happy T! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:30, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Hey, thanks every peoples! ''(Longer reply to follow later.)'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:28, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:Sweet, sweet Dot Com! Today is the day on your (real) ID! So get upstairs and make me some breakfast! ;) Seriously though, Happy Happy Birthday! {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:37, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::I love the Happy Birthday bandwagon! Please allow me to hop on and do that thing where I tell you to have a good day and all that stuff. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:39, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Happy sweet someteen bash, It's dot com. By the way, is it going to be [[Wikipedia:Nick at Night|Nick at Night]] themed again? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:04, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::Happy hundredth birthday, Dot Com! [/cliche] Need I remind you that you were born just a few days before Matt Chapman? You're ''so'' lucky. Keep on keepin' on! —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 20:05, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Happy birthday! :) {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 21:08, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Happy B. Er... I mean, Happy Birthday! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 21:12, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:Happy birthday, Ben. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 21:36, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Happy birthday, buddy. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:10, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

:HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!! Er, Happy Birthday. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 00:20, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

:Happy very belated birthday its dot com! (Better late then never, I assume). {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:54, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::Many belated combolations, Valerie. I hope you gamble all my...particles. Man, so cool! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Cool Cool User ==

Hey man i'm just saying you deserved the User Award thingy you got and i've herd my brother has been a jerk to you so i'm just here to say that he's dumb your really cool. But was it you that deleated my goof on the DVD? If it was why did you do it? Well please respond to this Bye.
:Wow this a random comment !?!? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:08, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yes and no. This user (wrongly) thinks that one of the shots that makes up the artwork in the interior of the Strong Bad Email DVD 4 is from [[dullard]], not [[other days]]. See [[Talk:strongbad email.exe Disc Four]] for more info. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:15, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
:::And it wasn't I who removed that item in question, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=strongbad_email.exe_Disc_Four&diff=183033&oldid=183023 Homestar Coder]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:57, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

== SIG 2 ==
Hey do you know how to get thoese awsom Signatures that people have -- Billy Bob Bob

:see the help section under Sig. that's where I learned. followed steps and you'll be all set {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:31, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

::Actually, start by typing four tildes (<code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>). That should do you for now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:55, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

== New Page ==

Hey do you know how to make a new artical? I wan't to make one.

:You just have to insert the name of the page into two bracets like this:<nowiki>[[</nowiki>pagename<nowiki>]]</nowiki> Then, hit showpreview and the link should appear red. Click on it and edit away.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 20:35, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

== Oz ==

Look, it's clear you don't support the Oz reference. Let me at least put it where I intended it to be, and quit moving it. It's about to die anyway, let it rest where it belongs. There is no need to reply. [[User:B|B]] 04:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Too late. It's dead. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:33, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Well great, and now because of your tampering with it, we have an archive that carries your agenda rather than the question being discussed. Hope you enjoyed the power trip. [[User:B|B]] 04:43, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Oh, spare me the theatrics. As explained on the page, the throwaway line in different down didn't even compare to the visuals New Boots provided. If anything, that's where the reference would be. But, like I said there, it's not a reference in the first place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:50, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Speaking of theatrics, now you've blanked your page? I don't see why you would leave just because we disagree on which toon this item doesn't refer to. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:55, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Okay, play nice, guys. It's understandable you'd be frustrated, B, since I agree that different town should have been the only toon in discussion. But on the other hand, it stood even less chance than New Boots, so the change did you a favor of sorts. But either way, I find it's best to separate yourself from pages/edits you create; if they wind up going down, it's not a personal thing. (I say that, but yeah, I still find it hard.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::While that item was open, I thought about trying to tie the two pages in together, but after the voting got going, I realized it wasn't worth the effort. I maintain that if the reference were true, both toons would be independent references to the Oz episode, and New Boots—not different town—would have the strongest connection to it. Therefore, B, I resent your saying that I was going on a power trip, since I sincerely believe my actions to be in line with what was best for the wiki. Those who know me well know that I take great pains to ''avoid'' the mere hint of such a so-called trip. I do apologize, however, if my actions seemed in haste to you. That was not my intention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:18, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::In the interest of fairness to all points of view, I have amended the page with a link to ''both'' toons, and I will be including it in the main archive under both names and on both talk pages. I hope this compromise is satisfactory. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:47, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: The issue is that I have decided that I have better things to do than to remain attached to the seedy underbelly that is the wiki disussion. I will continue to visit, as the site is ''really cool''. I won't make contributions unless no one else can provide what I have to offer, or if there is a blatant error on a page. I may continue to play on the sound effects page. Other than that, I have nothing else to add.
:::::::: The amendment is acceptable. The beef was not with what was the better referene. My beef was that it kept getting moved and altered. And without comment. The whole event was a display in discourteousness (on both parts, mine especially). I don't do much of this, and I worked hard trying to get that right. I appreciate the re-consideration.
:::::::: end of line. [[User:B|B]] 05:55, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

==Alphabetical order==

Here's a puzzle for anybody concerned. It's about [[Inside Jokes]] and [[Running Gags]]. Try going to each page, and clicking on the 'List of ______'. It seems that the article Inside Jokes, which is also in the category, is listed under 'L', as it should be. However, Running Gags is listed under '*'. Anybody know why this would happen? Is this happening to everyone? I dunno, it just seems kinda weird. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:39, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:Someone put an asterisk in the link so that it would be listed first in the list. I made the other one match (although the dollar sign is coming before the asterisk, which probably should be fixed, but I'm not gonna do it now). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:45, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::I won't do anything then -- I was about to make a similar change just now. I was actually thinking of doing it the other way: using the alphabet entries, but of course this makes more sense. Anyway, here's Dot com's [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Inside_Jokes&diff=190040&oldid=162318 change] so you can see what he did. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:48, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Huh. Go figure. You learn something new every day, I guess (although that little nugget is pretty useless). Thanks. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:01, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh, of course. Fixing $11.01 turned out to be as easy as fixing Inside Jokes. Good work, Elad. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:04, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Thanks. Just as I was going to reply my computer froze. Now I'm replying from school (See my IRC nick :P). {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:20, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

== Manual of style! ==

Dot com, If I were British, I'd nominate you for a knighthood. I love it! I'll have to see if there's anything I can contribute to the new Manual of Style (although it looks like you've covered it pretty well yourself). You are my doge! [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 23:43, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not British, either, so the most I can hope for is honorary membership in the [[Wikipedia:Order of the British Empire|Most Excellent Order of the British Empire]]. That would still be pretty sweet, though. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:53, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

== Forum ==

Okay, I got the forum email, then I sent out the email that I was supposed to send out, so now what do I do? I really want to join the forum. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}
:Er, I'm not really that knowledgeable about the forum. I have an account there, but I've made like 5 posts in a year, and It's been a while since I activated the account. Perhaps you could post this in a more public place. Sorry. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:41, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

:It's alright. I just post a a new subject on the Main Page talk. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

User talk:It's dot com

H*R 700 — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:38:44 GMT

H*R 700: Forum

User talk:Joshua

H*R 700 — Sun, 06 Nov 2005 14:59:04 GMT

H*R 700: MARSHIEMAN ALERT!

== Stinkoman 20X6 sprites! ==

I love the animated sprites from Stinkoman 20X6 you've been getting. Are you planning on making any of 1-Up? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:31, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
:Um, not at the moment. They're just for Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies, and 1-Up isn't in there. They aren't too hard to make, though. - [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]

== Marzipan's Answering Machine moves ==

Why did you move these? They were correct as they were. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
: Beat me to it. I was about to ask the very same question. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
:: I didn't like it and asked about it in the talk page, but when nobody responded, I decided to try it and see what the response was. I had every intention to change it back if it wasn't wanted, but it seems like you did that instead. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 02:16, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

:::If you watch the answering machines 9-12, you'll see that it says "Version #.2", but I'm sure you knew that. Thanks for understanding. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
::::Yes, but as I stated in the talk page, I don't like it, and if we do that, we might as well make all the others X.0. I just don't think it's nessecary, and I think it looks worse. I understand why it was done, I just think it needs to be changed. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 12:11, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

:::::We're just following what [[The Brothers Chaps]] do. If they decide suddenly to change all [[Strong Bad Emails]] to, say, "Strong Bad Email #5.8", we would, too. The other machine's don't need "#.0" on them because they don't on the offical site, yet the 9-12 do. Again, just doing what TBC do. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
::Actually, they do have Version 2.0 and Version 5.0, in the same place where Version 10.2 is. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 12:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

== Places Strong Bad Made Up ==

Hi there Joshua. If you are moving an article's content to the [[Places Strong Bad Made Up]] page, don't mark the article for deletion. Instead, just redirect to Places Strong Bad Made Up. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:32, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

== Signatures ==

Just noticced the problem you're having with your sig. In your [[Special:Preferences|preferences]], make sure the box is ticked that says "Raw Signatures (without automatic link)" or similar. This should fix your sig problems. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] <tt>([[User talk:Venusy|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Venusy|Contributions]])</tt>, 23:05, 6 May 2005 (BST) 
EDIT: And put the font tag <nowiki>[[After the line|</nowiki>'''HERE'''<nowiki>]]</nowiki>.

:Thanks. I just figured it out. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== Kewpie ==

Hey, Joshua. I was going to share this on IRC chat, but since Freenode is refusing my connection, I thought I'd share this with you for fun. I'm at Disney World, and I was at the Boardwalk, and this stand was selling Kewpie dolls. I immediately thought of [[Kewpie Dan]]. Just needed to say this. :-D --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 23:50, 3 Jul 2005 (EDT)

== Fanstuff Wiki ==

Hi, would you happen to know how to post a fanfic type thing at the fanstuff wiki? If you do, could you possibly help me, because I can't fuigure it out. [[User:Homestramy20|Homestramy20]] 08:27, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

There, joshua, done and done. Now, do ya think you might be able to help me move it to fanstuff wiki? [[User:Homestramy20|Homestramy20]] 00:51, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Message==

I left you a message on your Fanstuff wiki talk page. [[User:H*R 700|H*R 700]]

I left you another message. I'm sorry. [[User:H*R 700|H*R 700]]

This seems as a good place as any to leave this. Joshua, excellent job with the [[The_Geddup_Noise|Geddup]]! I didn't know I'd be putting all this work in! Arg! But it's looking good! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:46, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== 1933 ==

Actually, it was not I who [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Pages&diff=114541&oldid=114538 first noticed this], but Darklinkskywalker. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:46, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC) P.S. If you're gonna put my name in the edit summary, notice the capitalization. I'd hate to be [[HRWiki:Da_Basement#Page-move_vandals_impersonating_members|confused for a troll]]. ;) But you can call me "Dot com" for short, if you want. :)
:But it was you who didn't want it to be changed to [[Old-Timey]] with everything else, because it had a verified date. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::Nah, I don't care about the actual date. [[1933]] just happens to be the name of the page for the pre-sound Old-Timey cartoons. That page could be called "Even More Old-Timey" and it would be just fine with me. Actually, that's a horrible title, but you get the point. My thinking on this subject is not very strong either way, but since 1933 is slightly more specific, I thought it should stay. I would, however, be interested in any suggestions or thoughts you have. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:25, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Well, the page title itself reads "Old Timey." But as you said, I don't care either way. But do we even have proof that it was released in 1933 (2000)? It could very well be a 1934 thing. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::Like I said, the date itself isn't my area of expertise. Look at the [[Main Pages]] page again. I put in another link. Do you think that improves it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:51, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I don't know if that's an improvement. Either link to 1933 or link to Old-Timey, but not to both. Remember that the 1933 blatantly links to the Old-Timey page anyway. Linking to Old-Timey in the description is like... linking to something in transcript dialogue. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::Well, I see you changed it back. I don't care about this enough to really put up a good argument, but I will say once more that you seem to be fixating on the ''year'' 1933, when I'm saying that I was just linking to the page with the ''title'' "1933", because that's the page for the soundless H*R era. It's just like how "Old-Timey" used to be called "1936". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:08, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::Yes, well, that would have been a good arguement if it weren't for the fact that your "1936" thing is about a week late, and now supports my preference. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== Stop editing me! ==

'''Joshua!! Stop editing my stuff!! What'd I ever do to ''you''?!''' -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]
:You were breaking the rules. So I fixed it so you wouldn't get in trouble. (Although it seems like you un-fixed it and got in trouble anyway.) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== ( )'s ==

Why not? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:49, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Well, the way they were implimented was really messy. I wouldn't mind them back in if you could make them look neater. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== Random Toon ==
Sorry about changing the random toon thing, I didn't notice the piped link. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 09:26, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:It's okay. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== Quote of the Week archive ==

Hi there Joshua. There's no need to archive the [[Quote of the Week]] page. The page is neither too long nor does it have many images on it. Thanks anyway though.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:56, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Are you sure? I mean, it's going to get long eventually, and the other two weeklies need archiving. I think they should be archived in a similar fashion as [[H*R.com updates 2005|H*R Updates]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

::Have you determined if there is community consensus for this pretty major change? I already started a discussion on the [[Talk:Quote of the Week]] page, feel free to add to it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:00, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, I sort of did [[Talk:Weekly Fanstuff#Archive Page|here]]. I only got two replies, but they were both positive and that was 2+ weeks ago. I figured I would just do all three, starting with QotW. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:04, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== [[The Geddup Noise]] ==

Joshua,
Yes, we're still missing some! Like i mentioned before in the [[Talk:The_Geddup_Noise#Still_Pending_.26_Suggestions|discussion]], I only went through 70-95 for sure on my end. That's why I put the "[[Talk:The_Geddup_Noise#Gettup_Noise_Approved|geddup noise approved]]" table, so that we could coordinate what emails had yet to be checked and where the noise was found if at all. That way we don't unnecessarily duplicate efforts and also guarantee thoroughness. Unfortunately I haven't had the chace to Finish the table (I haven't even put info on the ones I didn't find on the 70-95 range, nor are all the ones listed in the page in this table), but it's there for that purpose. TTYL --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:33, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Hi josua um im confused ==
What happened to the fanstuff wiki were is it this is Strongsad from the fanstuffwiki.
:See [[Talk:Main Page#What happened?|here]]. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 01:34, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Ok thanks im going on a account here how long will the fanstuff thing take--[[User:68.82.7.119|68.82.7.119]] 01:34, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:See [[Talk:Main Page#What happened?|here]]. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 01:35, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Your redesigned User Page ==
Wow. I greatly admire what you've done with your User Page! Let me be the first to say how sleek and easy to nagivate it is now. Very impressive. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 03:55, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks. I'm happy that I finally got a cool, unique main page. :) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:41, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

== Action captions ==
Hey, as long as you're overhauling old sbemails, can you fix problems with the ''{---}''-type action descriptions? [[HRWiki:Standards#Transcript]] seems to me to mean that brief descriptions should stay within the character's line, without a break, and may ''or may not'' be full sentences with capatilization and a period. Longer descriptions should get a new line, and the character can start speaking again after that. Those ''have'' to be full, capped, perioded, sentences. But if it has a period it should definitely start with cap, one way or the other. (I've also been reluctant to break character's sentences; see [[Family Resemblence]]. I left a lot of fairly short, full-sentence descriptions inline because otherwise Strong Bad's sentences would be chopped up into bunches of '''STRONG BAD:''' 's.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I'm aware with how the standards work, although I missed the whole "actions more than a few words long should have their own line" part. I'll fix that up. (Also, I noticed [[modeling]] is a huge mess, I might fix that up soon) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::Also, I think all actions that take place inside the dialogue (and not on their own line) should not be full sentences, for consistency's sake. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Sorry! ==

Sorry that I accidentally deleted your talk page. I was actually trying to delete "User talk:Joshua ON WHEELS" *rolleyes* {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:49, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== We speak American here dog-gonnit! ==

In reference to your revert about Enligsh spelling, I have a general question. I am American and so are the creators of H*R, but what are the wiki standards of language. This is obviously an int'l site as JoeyDay the commander-in-chief of this wiki is an Aussie. How do we determine spelling for things such as color vs colour? From any Aussies, I'd also be interested to know if your spelling closer resemble, American or English spellings?
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:53, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
:See [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ#English_English_v._American_English_Spelling|here]] for a dicussion on this subject. And incidentally, you may want to read the second paragraph on [[User:JoeyDay|this page]] as well. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 15:09, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
::JoeyDay is an American, but this is an international site as it contains users from America, Canada, the UK, Australia, etc. Anyway, when it comes to favorite vs. favourite, do what you like, but I'm going to do it the way TBC do it. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:33, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I stand corrected on Joey's country of origin. If there are any Aussie's here, I'd still be interested in how they spell? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}}
::::You could ask [[User:Phlip|Phlip]], [[User:Rainer|Rainer]], or [[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]. They are all from Australia. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:57, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
:::One of my friends, [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]], is an Aussie. He spells stuff with unnessecary vowels. (i.e. colour) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:17, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

== Games Menu Easter Egg pics ==

Good job on getting better pics for that table. I don't have any editing software at my current PC. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:53, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks. I would have done more if it weren't for school. :S - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:06, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

== MARSHIEMAN ALERT! ==

Hurry, Marshieman's back. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

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