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Talk:Where U Goin' 2?

Foxby — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:30:55 GMT

Foxby:

== Homestar's pants/leg ==

When I first watched this, I'm ''certain'' I heard "Hitchin' a ride on Homestar's ''pants''". When I listen now, it's obviously "leg". Did anyone else have the same experience? Did they pull a fast one? Are there two versions? Am I just crazy? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

:It would "bust" the proverbial "rhyme" if it were true. [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 04:09, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::Neither one is a good rhyme. The song is inconsistent. "Fire" and "choir" rhyme, but other similar instances don't ("leg"/"pants" and "job"; "gymnasium" and "do"). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I just don't think that it's a rhyming song. I sounds better without the rhymes in my opinion. {{User:T3H_CH3K7_888/sig}} 15:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:::It's definitely a rhyming song, it just doesn't consistently rhyme on the off lines. I never heard any version with "pants", but it was pretty clear after coming here that I'd missed the 'toon's release by several hours. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, according to the Last-Modified dates, the SWF ''was'' updated about 50 minutes after the toon's release – the HTML page was last modified 1:55:34 UTC, the wiki article was created 2:18 UTC (so the toon was definitely released already), then the SWF was updated at 2:45:42 UTC. Whether it really said "pants" in those first 50 minutes isn't something we can confirm unless someone happened to save a copy of that first version. But if anyone else can confirm they heard "pants" first time around, I'm comfortable with adding it to Trivia. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:40, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::I dunno, I watched it almost immediately after the page was created (how "almost" I unfortunately can't confirm, although I'm pretty sure it was less than 27 minutes..) and I definitely heard leg. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.135|128.103.10.135]] 22:00, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, I made the forum article before the wiki article was even created and have the "leg" line as one of the options. So either the wiki article was created after the update, or it wasn't changed. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 23:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Strong Sad ==

The page shows Strong Sad as one of the characters, but I didn't see him and he's not referenced. Am I missing something? [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 03:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:You can see his foot sticking out from under the pile of burning mattresses. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, I see it. Perhaps a description of the mattress fire could be added. [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 03:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

:::Does anyone else think its a good idea to make this another case of [[Strong Sad's Death]]? His corpse is popping up everywhere! --[[User:Lustmyeyes|lustmyeyes <3]] 07:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::::His leg is still twitching, so it's not quite death. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:45, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Strong Mad Uses Good Grammar? ==

Looks like ol' Graw Mad is using complete sentences now. If my math is right, he did it twice in this toon. That's probably a new record! :[[Special:Contributions/68.32.116.46|68.32.116.46]] 04:07, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:Possibly, but this is hardly the first time he's used a complete sentence, and hardly [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ the place for discussing this] either. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::He's actually used a complete sentence before, as in [[Ever and More!]] - I CAN LET OUT THE WAIST A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU! (11 words, 12 syllables). And yes, this discussion should go to the forum.--[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 17:00, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Choir ==

I think she says, "No, that's a C" [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 04:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Last Line ==

If you turn it up high enough it's pretty clear the singer says "The day is done (or gone) so won't you close that barbecue...lid." Not "once you". {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 04:23, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

==New Evolution==
I think The Cheat's appearence has changed, do you? [[User:MICGAGUH]]
:I noticed a little, but wait until the next toon. If it's still like it is now, new evolution. If it goes back to what it was before, mark it on this page under Remarks. {{User:T3H_CH3K7_888/sig}} 15:21, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::Uh, The Cheat's a male. [[User:MICGAGUH]]
:::I know. What does that have anything to do with what I just said? {{User:T3H_CH3K7_888/sig}} 19:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

==Uh, guys...==
Lowercase I on the loading screen. [[User:Strong Intelligent|SI.com!]]
:I added it to this page and the [[Lowercase i's]] page. {{User:T3H_CH3K7_888/sig}} 15:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Audio Quality and Sofa ==

Anyone think the audio in this cartoon is lower quality than usual? Also, the sofa Strong Bad and Strong Mad are sitting on is larger in the end scene than the beginning scene. [[Special:Contributions/128.172.204.174|128.172.204.174]] 23:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Bubs' Stand ==

Should this location be added to the locations in the toon? I mean, it only appeared in PbtC form, but that didn't stop Bubs and Coach Z from making it to the Characters list. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 23:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== who was blown away? ==

This is the best toon/short/anything by tbc of 2009! who else was awesomified? {{User:Jagger88/sig}} 00:55, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the forum would probably be a better place to discuss this. Talk Pages are more about talking about the article itself. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 01:11, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

== Important Things? ==

The "ATM Machine" (complete with "That's kind of redundant") was a joke on Important Things with Dimetri Martin a few weeks back. Might it be a reference?

Talk:Where U Goin' 2?

Foxby — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:28:35 GMT

Foxby: /**/Important Things?

== Homestar's pants/leg ==

When I first watched this, I'm ''certain'' I heard "Hitchin' a ride on Homestar's ''pants''". When I listen now, it's obviously "leg". Did anyone else have the same experience? Did they pull a fast one? Are there two versions? Am I just crazy? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

:It would "bust" the proverbial "rhyme" if it were true. [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 04:09, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::Neither one is a good rhyme. The song is inconsistent. "Fire" and "choir" rhyme, but other similar instances don't ("leg"/"pants" and "job"; "gymnasium" and "do"). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I just don't think that it's a rhyming song. I sounds better without the rhymes in my opinion. {{User:T3H_CH3K7_888/sig}} 15:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:::It's definitely a rhyming song, it just doesn't consistently rhyme on the off lines. I never heard any version with "pants", but it was pretty clear after coming here that I'd missed the 'toon's release by several hours. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, according to the Last-Modified dates, the SWF ''was'' updated about 50 minutes after the toon's release – the HTML page was last modified 1:55:34 UTC, the wiki article was created 2:18 UTC (so the toon was definitely released already), then the SWF was updated at 2:45:42 UTC. Whether it really said "pants" in those first 50 minutes isn't something we can confirm unless someone happened to save a copy of that first version. But if anyone else can confirm they heard "pants" first time around, I'm comfortable with adding it to Trivia. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:40, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::I dunno, I watched it almost immediately after the page was created (how "almost" I unfortunately can't confirm, although I'm pretty sure it was less than 27 minutes..) and I definitely heard leg. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.135|128.103.10.135]] 22:00, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, I made the forum article before the wiki article was even created and have the "leg" line as one of the options. So either the wiki article was created after the update, or it wasn't changed. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 23:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Strong Sad ==

The page shows Strong Sad as one of the characters, but I didn't see him and he's not referenced. Am I missing something? [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 03:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:You can see his foot sticking out from under the pile of burning mattresses. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, I see it. Perhaps a description of the mattress fire could be added. [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 03:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

:::Does anyone else think its a good idea to make this another case of [[Strong Sad's Death]]? His corpse is popping up everywhere! --[[User:Lustmyeyes|lustmyeyes <3]] 07:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::::His leg is still twitching, so it's not quite death. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:45, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Strong Mad Uses Good Grammar? ==

Looks like ol' Graw Mad is using complete sentences now. If my math is right, he did it twice in this toon. That's probably a new record! :[[Special:Contributions/68.32.116.46|68.32.116.46]] 04:07, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:Possibly, but this is hardly the first time he's used a complete sentence, and hardly [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ the place for discussing this] either. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::He's actually used a complete sentence before, as in [[Ever and More!]] - I CAN LET OUT THE WAIST A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU! (11 words, 12 syllables). And yes, this discussion should go to the forum.--[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 17:00, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Choir ==

I think she says, "No, that's a C" [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 04:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Last Line ==

If you turn it up high enough it's pretty clear the singer says "The day is done (or gone) so won't you close that barbecue...lid." Not "once you". {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 04:23, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

==New Evolution==
I think The Cheat's appearence has changed, do you? [[User:MICGAGUH]]
:I noticed a little, but wait until the next toon. If it's still like it is now, new evolution. If it goes back to what it was before, mark it on this page under Remarks. {{User:T3H_CH3K7_888/sig}} 15:21, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
::Uh, The Cheat's a male. [[User:MICGAGUH]]
:::I know. What does that have anything to do with what I just said? {{User:T3H_CH3K7_888/sig}} 19:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

==Uh, guys...==
Lowercase I on the loading screen. [[User:Strong Intelligent|SI.com!]]
:I added it to this page and the [[Lowercase i's]] page. {{User:T3H_CH3K7_888/sig}} 15:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Audio Quality and Sofa ==

Anyone think the audio in this cartoon is lower quality than usual? Also, the sofa Strong Bad and Strong Mad are sitting on is larger in the end scene than the beginning scene. [[Special:Contributions/128.172.204.174|128.172.204.174]] 23:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Bubs' Stand ==

Should this location be added to the locations in the toon? I mean, it only appeared in PbtC form, but that didn't stop Bubs and Coach Z from making it to the Characters list. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 23:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== who was blown away? ==

This is the best toon/short/anything by tbc of 2009! who else was awesomified? {{User:Jagger88/sig}} 00:55, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the forum would probably be a better place to discuss this. Talk Pages are more about talking about the article itself. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 01:11, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

== Important Things? ==

The "ATM Machine" (complete with "That's kind of redundant") was a joke on Dimetri Martin's Important Things a few weeks back. Might it be a reference?

Talk:Hremail 2000

Foxby — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:15:14 GMT

Foxby: /**/Long Pants

==Dipped in ink==
Could the claim in the Easter egg that Shadow Homestar was "dipped in a vat of ink" be a reference to the ending montage of [[dangeresque 3]], where the silhouette of [[Killingyouguy]] was shown to be made by painting Strong Mad in black? It's what came first to my mind, anyway... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:Mine too.-{{User:Record307/sig}} 14:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:: Oh most definitely. Should there be a page for shadow Homestar, or at least a part of the chacter variation page for hime? He seems like a pretty important duplicate.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 21:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::[[Shadow Homestar Runner]]. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 22:58, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I don't really think the page is neccesary (Hope I spelled that right). It should be under Homestar's variations because that is practically him.---{{User:Record307/sig}} 02:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Shadow Homestar ==
Isn't this a reference to "Shadow Link" in the Legend of Zelda games? We all know TBC are big fans, so possibilities?
--[[User:Lustmyeyes|lustmyeyes <3]] 10:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think lots of video game characters have "shadow" or "dark" versions of themselves, it's quite common, from what I can tell. --[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 16:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::I wish, but the easter egg seems to be referencing the [[Street Fighter]] series. {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 16:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Mortal Kombat as well. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Since the whole scene is a parody of Mortal Kombat, I kinda think the Noob Saibot line holds some water. Another "ambiguous reference" about the ubiquitousness of "shadow" characters may also be appropriate. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.21|132.183.151.21]] 01:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::For what it's worth, the original "Prince of Persia" was almost certainly the first game to have such a "shadow" opponent... predates Mortal Kombat by 3 years. --[[User:dmz|dmz]] 08:30, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::I think we're best off with the ambiguous reference, like we already have on the page, though i wouldn't mind a nod to noob in the same line, since it IS mortal kombat after all. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Frankly, I'm against any reference at all to Noob Saibot - he wasn't all-black, just gray, and he didn't copy the moves of any character in particular. In his initial appearance, there were MULTIPLE characters that looked like him aside from the color scheme. If it's got anything at all to do with Mortal Kombat, it's almost certainly the mirror matches that were in the original game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:04, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Multiples again? ==
It should probably be noted that this is another instance of [[duplicate characters]], both with the 3rd Homestar leg (which is obviously not part of homestar when he's shown on the basketball court) and possibly also because of the Shadow Homestar. [[Special:Contributions/72.70.158.239|72.70.158.239]] 13:56, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:'''Agree'''. Yeah we should probably note the third leg.-{{User:Record307/sig}} 14:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::Done.-{{User:Record307/sig}} 19:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

==Homestar's Arms==
I'm no master at editing wikis, so I think I'll just mention it here. There should probably be something about how Homestar holds a big sock, then a big shoe, then a bigger sock, and then a bigger shoe, more than someone could hold with two hands (as he lifts them up seperately, and they don't move afterwards).
:There is a place to do that. I'll try to find it for consistancy. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 17:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::Try going [[invisible arms|here]]. I also added a remark on the article. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 17:51, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay, does anyone else think the Chaps are doing this on purpose now? I notice the whole "doing-things-that-would-require-more-than-two-arms" controversy has seemed to heighten somewhat on this wiki lately, so are they just adding fuel to the fire? Do they ''enjoy'' making those who try to find at least some level of vague sense-make in the cartoon squirm uncomfortably in their seats? (Not that I'm one of those people, I'm just sayin'. It's a weird co-weenky-dink.) [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I believe one of their commentaries mentioned the wiki, so they definitely know what goes on here. Probably amused their dumb little animal cartoon is causing so much silly bantering. My take is it's, 'relax, it's just a cartoon." And giant hands. Just because they're invisible doesn't mean they have to be normal sized!
:::::He holds them up individually, so unless he has REALLY big fingers..... -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Dream ==
When marzipan says that "the whole last season was just a dream", could this be a reference to the infamous ending of the Sopranos Tv series?
:This is the fourth suggestion so far as to what show it's referring to. I think that pretty much makes it something that can't be pinned to any one thing. The other three are Roseanne, Dallas, and Newhart, as seen when i removed them [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Hremail_2000&diff=627207&oldid=627205&rcid=586009 here]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::Dallas did it first and is most famous for it. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.21|132.183.151.21]] 21:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::The show Newhart is arguably the most famous as making the ''entire show'' was a dream in his earlier show. But I don't want to get into an argument about which is "more famous", because if one is mentioned, they all need to be. The best way is to make an ambiguous reference. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:33, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
There's a big controversy on how to include a remark about how "the entire last season was a dream." Why not just add a non-specific reference like; "Several prime-time shows have revealed in the season's last episode that the entire season had merely been a dream."? I'm not good at writing these things though, but i'm sure someone could make it sound very good and succinct. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:01, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:Why hasn't anyone else thought of this? Nice idea. -Nonuser mster24
::I'll take a shot at it. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:08, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay, it's up. Wasn't sure whether to put it in Explanations or Real-World References, but if I've erred someone can move it. I tried to word it as succinctly as I could, but of course if someone can reword it better, go for it. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:13, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Great summary, that's better than I could have put it. However, I believe that it belongs under Real-World references as it really isn't explaining anything rather than mention something said is referring to a real-life show(s). -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:29, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, general references to culture rather than references to something specific go in explanations. it's in the right place. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::I almost changed it, but realized the same thing trying to rephrase it. I like it where it is. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::There has only been one show where they had an entire season which was a dream. That was Dallas. This is a direct, complete reference to Dallas. -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]]
:::-as opposed to NEWHART which was only 8 seasons dreamed up. If I do my math right, NEWHART is 800% more direct than Dallas. My point is, there's more than one show which did that and we have the reference already in the article. We appreciate your input, but this has been discussed. Please see above. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 22:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, not necessarily. One could argue that, by the "math" of the transitive <strike>butt</strike> gimmick property, Dallas: 1 season = 100% direct reference by what Marzi said, whereas Newhart: 1 series/8 seasons = 0% direct reference by what Marzi said. And as much as love Bob Newhart, I really think Dallas is the most likely reference (this coming from someone who hasn't even seen Dallas, but is just familiar with certain famous attributes, this being one of them). Having said that, though, I don't think there's a strong enough case to put that specific one in the article, so I don't think there's any other way to do it, no matter how much I hate general, ambiguous references (I usually don't find 'em very useful). (Though I do maintain that Dallas did it first, in the 85-86 season (Newhart ended in 1990), and that they've referenced Dallas at least once in the past, with the [[Caleb Rentpayer]] thing.) -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.21|132.183.151.21]] 22:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::The Trope link, on the other hand, makes a general reference much more useful. Anonny satisfied! -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.21|132.183.151.21]] 23:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::First of all, it would be 800% AS direct, not 800% more direct. Secondly Newhart presumes the entire series was a dream (and entirely for comedic effect, not even pretending to be realistic). If marzipan had said the entire series was a dream, then it would make sense. Dallas is the only series to have had a "Dream Season" which is what Marzipan says -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]]
:::::The only point I was proving is that Dallas is not the only show that has done it (while Dallas may have been first). All I is saying is that it shouldn't be a specific reference. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Since when is TV Tropes Wiki a reliable source for anything? -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 19:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Since TBC started making reference to TV tropes... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Homestar's Shoes? ==

Think it should be noted somewheres that Homestar's feet/shoes act like (and are referred to as) shoes in this toon? As far as I know, there's been a dispute over whether Homestar wears shoes or not, and this, especially the puppet show, could possibly confirm that he does.-Nonuser mster24
:Or that he doesn't. Note the fact that in that one closeup, his supposed "shoes" have those gnarly wart-looking things and his leg region is shown to have hair, despite the fact that there's no clear boundary between his "shoes/feet" and his legs. Just another wrench in the works-of-clearing-up-ambiguity is my guess. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:08, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::Either way, we include references to his shoes on [[Homestar Runner's Pants]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

== Foot Pelts ==
Is this easter egg another instance of [[Strong Sad]]'s implied [[death]]? [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 00:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:Implied amputation isn't implied death. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::It could go here though -> [[Severed Body Parts]] -02:00, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:Why not? In [[modeling]], Strong Sad informs Strong Bad that poachers have been after his feet.

== Cow Clips ==

The "Cow Clips" Homestar uses on his shoes are Binder Clips, also known as Bulldog Clips.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binder_clip --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 19:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:The transcript already calls them binder clips. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Swiss-ness ==

"swiss miss" is a brand of hot cocoa and other food-esque items. to be included in real-world references? --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 20:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:And [[Wikipedia:Swiss Miss (disambiguation)|many other things]] as well. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Missle vs. Missal ==

When Homestar says "today's missle," I think he is actually saying "Today's Missal," a publication found at nearly every Catholic church. See: http://www.ocp.org/products/tm Also see the Wikipedia article on Missal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missal
Should this be included in explanations or maybe real-world references?
:It's a [[malapropism]] for "missive". "Missile" has the benefit of being one letter off. "Missal" does not. The pronunciation is the same. I say "missile" is fine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Long Pants ==

Remember when Strong Bad asserted that Homestar "simply has blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet"? Should that be mentioned?

Talk:licensed

Foxby — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:57:14 GMT

Foxby: /**/My Gym Partner Is A Strong Bad

== What's new link ==
Dunno what i cans do about it, but the link to the sbemail is broked. It links to sbemail.190.html (that is, there's an extra dot). Someone with the privilege needs to fix this right quick. [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 06:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:Nvm. Fixed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
== Blackhead-Flaced Janice ==
Should it be pointed out that Blackhead-Flaced Janice is a joke on the misspelling of Pilmple-faced Bill? Is it possible to over-"over-analyze"?
:Give the [[HRWiki:Standards]] a read. I'd say this qualifies as both obvious and explaining the joke. So... no. [[User:64.198.255.1|64.198.255.1]] 20:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Homestar's Song ==

although it's similar, the song homestar's singing isn't the one from [[anything]] and [[the paper]]. that one comes from "never-ending story", but this one is different. i don't know where it's from, but i'm still deleting that inside reference. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 07:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:I'm considering the "Sail Away, Sail Away, Sail Away" part of [[Wikipedia:Orinoco Flow|Orinoco Flow]] by [[Wikipedia:Enya|Enya]]? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::i can see what you're coming from, but he says the line 4 times instead of three, so i'm guessing it's something else. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 08:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::It reminds me more of the Hot Hot Heat song [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdk8J1OOiJA Bandages], but again he says it four times instead of three. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:47, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Sounds a lot like [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBn-BpkNsA "Walking on Broken Glass"] by Annie Lennox [[User:Havl|Havl]] 20:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::That's really not how the song goes at all.[[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 00:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:It sounds to me like the Flintstone kids theme. "Yabba dab yabba dab yabba dabba do" [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scpjpz3ReMI FSK]
::Well, apparently, if everyone thinks it's something different, it has to be TTATOT.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Not necessarily, because it's possible that all but one of those people are wrong. :)
::::Just to clarify: the song Homestar sings in [[anything]] is the same tune as the themesong from The Neverending Story; that's an objective fact that can be demonstrated by anyone who knows musical notation. If a bunch of people came in saying "I think it sounds like the theme from Night Court!" and "No, it's totally 'Yesterday' by the Beatles!" and "Wait, I could swear I heard that tune in a Bach fugue somewhere" and "Are you sure it isn't from Merzbow's new album?", that wouldn't make it TTATOT. It would still actually be a reference to The Neverending Story, and all those other people would just be wrong.
:::::No, it's not the same. It's starts the same, but the end is different enough to make it obviously not the same.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 08:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I think you misread me. I'm talking about the song in [[anything]] ("The neverending soda"), not the one in [[licensed]]. I was using it as an example of a clear, indisputible reference, to make a more general point about the definition of "TTATOT." This new one isn't a clear, indisputible reference to anything I've heard, although obviously I haven't heard everything.
:::I agree with the Flintstones Kids theme. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::There are a lot of unsigned posts here, but I am making the judgement that this is a TTATOT connection, and unless a really positive match arises for this to be a parody of, it's not anything. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think the above people are onto something with the Flintstones Kids theme. For those who have knocked it, to clarify: this is referring to the 90's cartoon show, not the vitamin jingle, which is nothing alike. The idea's not too far-fetched, and we ''know'' TBC have heard of it from the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|TGS 7]] commentary. Shall maybe everyone give it a listen to be sure? I'm pulling it out of a decade-old memory here, avoiding listening to the link, and I think it's a fair match. Should they be doing it from memory, like I am, isn't a teeny bit of off-keyness expected? Plus, I mean...it's Homestar. He's flat allthedang time. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 14:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::: Yes, it sounds sort of kind of almost like the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xomL0HKwS0k Flintstone Kids] theme song, but it sounds as much like everything else mentioned above. I vote for TTATOT. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 14:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::The most convincing thing here is "walking on broken glass" which i have never heard, so i don't know if it sounds like it or not, but makes sense as it's ABOUT broken glass... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Check it out. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBn-BpkNsA "Walking on Broken Glass"] [[User:Havl|Havl]] 18:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I have to go with "Walking on Broken Glass," too. Yes, the tune HR sings has similarities to other tunes as well (which can't really be avoided, it's essentially "three notes, pause, three notes, pause, etc)", taking the subject matter of that song into account, it'd be too big of a coincidence to ignore, imo. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 22:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::But "Walking on Broken Glass" goes note, up a note, down a note (ie, same as the first). Homestar's song goes note, note, down a half note (except for the first "Broken glass" which admittedly has almost the same pattern, ie note, up a note, down a half note). [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I agree that it's not exactly the same, which is why I'm actually more hesitant than my first post makes me out to be, looking at it again. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 03:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Juys. I'm that age where I know all these tunes. It's not any of them. At all. Trust me. I cannot yet divine what, if anything, that tune refers to. (Are you aware I perform and figure out songs professionally?) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::your job is to figure out what songs are being lampooned by others? huh. at any rate, no, i don't think most people were aware. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 05:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

=="Human noses?"==

Does Strong Bad imply that he is not human? Has this ever happened before?
:I was wondering about that myself. I know it was in a quick joke, and may not hold a lot of weight, but I think something like whether or not you're human isn't something that you casually contradict in a joke with out paying attention. You wouldn't say "It looks just like me except with a human nose" even as a joke, unless it was already given that you weren't human, or at least weren't considered human.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 08:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::well, no matter how you look at it, he ''doesn't'' have a human nose, just like how homestar and the like don't have arms or pants, and those are mentioned all the time, too. i don't think it has much bearing on ''what'' anybody is. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 08:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Except he said "human nose". It would have been just like Homestar's arms if he just said "nose". The humor in that, just like the humor in [[fingers]] is adding something to him that he should have but obviously doesn't. It's the same way with the word human. The humor in adding a human nose to him is that he has no nose and he's not human.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 09:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Naw, i agree with Neumannz, it's not notable beyond his lack of a visible one, whether he said human or not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 09:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think that "human" here was intended to mean "realistic". These are not cartoon noses, or animal noses. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm with E.L. Cool on this one. I definitely think he meant shaped noses, with nostrils and a bridge and all that good stuff, as opposed to a simple little ball nose, like the one Stro Bro has on the side of the Puddin' Patch. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I think this joke has been referenced in [[alternate universe]] before. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 15:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== A mousy description? / Coach Z can't talk. ==

First, I'm not sure about that description of the Cheat's mural picture. His pudginess and distinctive, if unlabelled, jar of Hunny seem to suggest Winnie the Pooh to me. (The antennae, obviously, are out of place.)

Second, does Coach Z say "You're toys" or "You're twice"? I definitely heard the latter, which I can imagine him saying because he's weird, but the former makes sense too. Any thoughts? -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:yeah, i hear "twice" ---[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 16:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::I originally heard it as "toys" (and put it that way in the subtitles), but it now seems closer to "twice", even with Coach Z's accent. [[User:ZanderSchubert|ZanderSchubert]] 23:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I heard"toys" or "twoise". [[User:Justin Master of Nature|[[User:Justin Master of Nature|Master of Nature]]]] 19:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:"Twice" would make a lot of sense, as there are two Strong Bads in the room. One is, admittedly, a pinata.

== Shut up, lady! ==

Have this voice and Strong Bad's response appeared enough times now for us to consider it a running gag? I know it occurred in [[bottom 10]], and I think one other...though I wouldn't swear to it. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:as noted in inside references, the second one was [[your funeral]]. i don't know enough about the rules of running gags to say whether this should be considered one. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 16:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

: I think "Shut up, Lady" should be considered a running gag. Three instances have warranted others to be added if my memory serves my correctly. The fact we've seen it in 3 toons set far apart from each other tells me that TBC find it funny and would add it into future toons. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::Ummm, it is. It's [[Shut Up, Lady|here]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 17:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh... so it is. Uh, well... I'll... sports team. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bubs' Merchandise ==
<s>Doesn't</s> Isn't Bubs selling a Strong Bad beanie cap? Should that go into teh "fun facts" section? —[[User:SpazZataKc|SpazZataKc]]

Yeah. it should. -Coleslaw

Looks like the fourth item he's selling is The Cheat-shaped Post-It notes... see also [[secret recipes]]... [[User:Agnamaracs|Agnamaracs]] 22:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Gunkistan? ==

Why got the Facts about Gunkistan being a portmanteau and a inside reference to Gunk Iller deleted?

:It may be because they're wrong...The portmanteau is less obviously incorrect, but technically -stan and is a suffix, a word in some language (Arabic) meaning "land," which is why it's used at the end of so many countries (Afghanistan = Land of the Afghanis, Kazakhstan = Land of the Kazakhs, etc.). This would make it not a portmanteau. As for the other one, being a reference to the Gunk Iller, I see no reason why this was up there in the first place. Gunk is a very common term for any gross, ambiguous substance.

::I disagree with you on the portmanteau subject. if you look at the [[Portmanteaus]] page you'll notice "Millionzoic", "Tenthennial" and "Geographist", all words with a general suffix. Gunkistan should be there too. Maybe I was a little off by saying that it's in particular park Pakistan, but that's the only country that have the letter K to form -kistan (Gun-Kistan). I'm not readding it still so it won't start to be and edit war, but I think it should be discussed. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:::What about Kyrkistan? And almost Kazakhstan... [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Ok, there's no Kyrkistan, but [[Wikipedia:-stan#Countries|there are]] Tajikistan and Uzbekistan as countries (as well as some made up ones in the section below). Is anyone else objecting to this fun fact? It's not TTATOT because of the many countries, but it's a reference to -stan in general. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

== Old Lady ==

Now that the Old Lady made a third appearance, should we revive her page? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 16:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Two things ==
1.) Are we sure Homestar is singing "broken glass?" because I heard "working class". 2.) Will the shady daycare be haunting anybody else's nightmares or just mine?

:"Working Class" makes no sense. The pinatas were filled with broken glass as evidenced by the multiple lacerations and shards on Homestar's face. Since Strong Bad asked Homestar to reveal what was contained there-in. In true Homestar way he sung it. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:1) definitely broken glass, 2) just yours --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 17:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:"Working Class" makes so much more sense that its more than a little surprising that someone would post it. The fact that they did it anonymously makes me wonder if it was another trollish post designed to incite an argument. Its a wonder that someone didn't call this person names. -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]
::there's still time for that --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bubs arms. ==

Has anyone noticed that Bubs arms are animated the same way they were in Nightlife and how Coach Z's were in Trogday 08?--{{User:Kirbychu HR'D/sig}} 20:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. It's a new style design. Individually drawn per frame. It seems to be the way things are done from now on. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::yeah, we're not worrying about mentioning it anymore, since it's become standard and it's under bub's evolution page --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Toucan Sam, Zazu, and Cinderella ==
[[Image:Toucans.png|thumb|fourcans]]
<blockquote>The cover of "Jungle Animals in Decidedly Non-Jungle Situations" has a variation of The Cheat similar to The Lion King (The Cheat resembles Zazu) and Toucan Sam, mascot of Froot Loops. The other is Cinderella.</blockquote> This is in desperate need of rewording, but first we need to decide what we're doing with it. It can't be Zazu and Toucan Sam. Isn't that TTATOT? I don't really think it's either. It's just a toucan. A random jungle animal. Also, are we sure the other DVD is a play on Cinderella? It seems likely, but not certain. But if so, it needs to be worded better.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:Or is it just generally agreed that it's pointless to mention any of that crap? I'm for that, too.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think the refernce to Zazu can go, but Toucan Sam should stay. The Cheat looks nothing like Zazu, beyond the blue color and big beak, nor does he look much like a real toucan, but the striped beak gives him a strinking resemlance to Toucan Sam. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 21:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, if it looks like anything, it's Sam.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 22:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::I think it's generic, but the overall feel is the lion king. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Zazu's not even a toucan. He's a hornbill. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Although the colours are in a slightly different order, there is a clear similarity between Toucan The Cheat and Toucan Sam. This was the first thing I thought when I saw the DVD case.{{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I agree, the colors, especially the black followed by the pink, are particularly reminiscent of Toucan Sam. That's definitely what I thought too. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 18:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Another one who thinks it looks like Toucan Sam. Follow your nose! [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bioshock Reference? ==

Does the singing child at the daycare remind anyone else of the 2nd little sister sighting in Bioshock? The little sister is heard singing a song to the same tune, in a very creepy way. The fact that they're both singing the same tune, both children and the fact that it is very creepy in both cases suggests a reference, no?

:Senor Cardgage is not a child. And it's a common kid's tune. And Senor is always creepy, so it might not be a reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

==Toys R Us==

I think I saw a Toys R Us reference. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:We,, you may or may not be correct about that. It would depend on what you saw, which I have no idea what it was.... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::The drawings on the building. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Ugly Bird ==

Anyone else think that Homestar calling the swollen, floating The Cheat an "Ugly Bird" is a reference to... um... the one other email (I forget which one) where Homestar called a swollen, floating The Cheat an "Ugly Bird?"
: Someone else sure does, thats why they mentioned it in the article: ''The Easter egg where Homestar sees The Cheat float by and thinks he's an ugly bird is a reference to helium. '' -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]

==Blood?==
Just wondering how blood is an "Inside Reference." You don't have to be a Homestar Runer fan to fully appreciate blood jokes. [[User:Catman87|Catman87]]
:Because blood is a recurring element/gag in some toons. The [[blood]] page ties all appearances of blood together in a list. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::Then shouldn't be called a "Running Gag" instead of a "Inside Reference?" [[User:Catman87|Catman87]]
:::It refers, within the Homestar Runner universe, to the "blood" running gag. Does that make it clearer? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== This is like the best sbemail in a long while ==

It's awesome and good and classic and this is the best Bubs appearance since lunch special ;0
:that is a very forum-esque comment for a Talk page, so let's keep that to a minumum --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== beanies ==

Aren't those strong bad beanies that Bubs has a real item in the store? I'd check myself but I'm far too lazy.--[[User:97.82.22.53|97.82.22.53]] 00:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yes they are (I own one), which is why it is mentioned in the article http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/licensed#Remarks [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Murdered person at the daycare? ==

What's with the outline of the person? It looked like a person had been murdered or something.
:mentioned on the [[Papa Cardgage's PUDDIN' PATCH]] page --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

It's just there too add a scary feeling to that daycare. -Coleslaw

==Disney DVDs==

The DVDs resemble Cinderella and The Lion King. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:One problem, however is that The Lion King does not feature non-jungle situations. I think "The Wild" would be a closer match. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::Someone suggested TaleSpin. Huh? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::No, it represents The Jungle Book. [[User:76.173.92.70|76.173.92.70]] 23:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::: Strong Bad makes it clear what these are and why they ''vaguely'' resemble Disney movies: "The ones that are slight variations of slightly animated kids' movies. The kind they put right next to the check-out line, so Grandma might accidentally mistake it for the real thing." When Disney releases an animated movie, knock-off companies rush their own ultracheap adaptations of the public domain source to the stores while the big budget version's still in theaters in order to get kids and grandmas to get all excited seeing "Aladdin" (or whatever) in the store and buy it. Go look at the cheap movie bin at a drugstore or the supermarket checkout racks sometime if you've never seen these. Not Bothering To Make An Account, 37:94 Forty-Terst Decembuary 20X8.
For reasons I can no longer remember, I originally thought the "4" in the title of the Cinderella parody was a reference to the fact Disney made a Cinderella 3 last year. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:Could be a reference to all the crappy sequals to old movies that they came out with for the past few years, cinderella 2 and 3 (and 4?) among them... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Strong Bad as a ''lion'' with a (king's?) ''crown'' makes me think it's supposed to be The Lion King. Of course, The Cheat looks a whole lot more like Toucan Sam than Zazu ... Maybe it's an amalgam of several things. (I certainly don't see TaleSpin, though!) The other definitely looks like Cinderella to me (though his dress reminds me more of Snow White's ...)--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:The TaleSpin thing is the desk, a reference to Sheer Khan's desk. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::That's wediculous. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:06, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
All this opinion on which real-world movie this is it, can only make you more understand the joke. The DVDs are almost one thing, but not quite the other. Almost like Cardgage's speech. Don't try to overthink what particular story is each DVD, or try to break it down to pieces and put each piece in the right movie. That's just the whole joke. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:As the article says (or said at one point, this cold makes me not bothering to check the page to see if it's still there), it's a reference to the slipshod animated features that two-bit companies come out with to coincide with Disney's feature film release dates. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Um, TaleSpin wasn't a Disney movie, it was a Disney tv show. but I digress. Anon, 20:50, 22 February 2008

==Toothbrush==

Could someone explain the toothbrush? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:it's a novelty "sugar toothbrush" which i guess means it spins the sugary SB head against a kid's teeth --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

What's it supposed to be a parody of? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:What that description brings to my mind is those Cap Spin Pop devices that spin the little lollipops while they are licked. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::That's what I was thinking too. It's a lollipop, not a toothbrush. Evidence: electric toothbrushes don't spin like that, there is no evidence of bristles of any kind, it's extremely lollipop-shaped, and the usage of words like "rot the teeth out of" and "sugar". Also, given the other unlicensed merch (and unlicensed merch in general), a spinning lollipop fits much better than a toothbrush. As such, the explanation about novelty toothbrushes should either be reworded or outright destroyed. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Note also that he's talking specifically about unlicensed confections at that point (if we weren't already clear...). -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 04:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Broken-Glass Soda? ==

Anyone else find the Broken Glass/Ugly Bird song similar to the "Never-ending Soda" song from 'anything'?
:There is a thread above on this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

==Toothbrush description==

I think the toothbrush description is incomplete. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:I couldn't find a detailed enough link. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Homestar's Birthday ==

When Homestar says that it was "his best birthdays ever", does this mean that his birthday is on February 19? {{User:The Teach!/Twig}}
:You're assuming Homestar knows what he's talking about. This is not a safe assumption. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::So you're saying that he is so stupid that he doesn't even know whether it's really his birthday or not? {{User:The Teach!/Twig}}
::: Seeing as how he doesn't even know he's not wearing pants, yes, I am saying he's that stupid. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::he does know about the pants, it's just sometimes traumatic to think about it ([[long pants]]) --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 05:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::I says until they have a cartoon that specifically depicts his birthday, we can't really know. There's no guarantee that they had the party that day, or that the party was on the same day as his actual birthday, or, as aforementioned, that Homestar had any idea what he was talking about.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 06:18, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's like claiming that [[Nibbles|Nibbles']] birthday is on July 11 because that's the day [[bottom 10]] came out. The only birthdays we actually know are [[Happy Trogday|Trogdor's]] (Jan 13) and Stinkoman's (Jan 6). {{User:The Chort/sig}} 10:33, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

==Guttenberg==
Project Guttenberg is an online library. I think this should be mentioned somewhere - Owen
:guttenberg is a common last name, and a city, and this that and the other thing. No connection. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::Guttenburg is a reference to the Guttenburg Bible. All other uses of it are also references to that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Which is, in turn, a reference to the man who made said bible, [[Wikipedia:Johannes Gutenberg|Johannes Gutenberg]]. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 05:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Which is also, in turn, a reference to the man's father. Moral of the story: unless there's a direct correlation between something and a common name, it's best not to make a reference to it. [[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 08:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::For what it's worth, when I first saw Guttenberg, I thought of [[Wikipedia:Steve Guttenberg|Steve Guttenberg]] ... So I agree. Not a specific reference to anything.--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

==Intro==

The intro sounds familiar. I'm thinking some kids show. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

==Disney==

Is Disney becoming a running gag now? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:Show me the other references. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

==Jungle Animal DVD==

The desk on the Jungle Animal DVD reminds me of Becky's desk from TaleSpin. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:look [[#Disney DVDs|up]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

== Beginning email song ==

It appears that Strongbad is singing to the tune of "I'm Gonna Wash That Man Right Out Of My Hair"
Can I get someone to second that? --[[User:68.166.201.226|68.166.201.226]] 23:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
: The first couple of notes sound like it, but not the rest of it. --[[User:97.82.22.53|97.82.22.53]] 01:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

==Toothbrush Again==

I think the toothbrush does something that isn't mentioned in its description. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== My Gym Partner Is A Strong Bad ==

The "Jungle Animals in Non-Jungle Situations" thing reminds me heavily of the Cartoon Network show "My Gym Partner is a Monkey." Anyone else? (Oops, mistakenly put this as an edit rather than an addition.)

Talk:licensed

Foxby — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:53:31 GMT

Foxby: /* Shut up, lady! */

Talk:licensed

Foxby — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:52:08 GMT

Foxby: /* A mousy description? / Coach Z can't talk. */

== What's new link ==
Dunno what i cans do about it, but the link to the sbemail is broked. It links to sbemail.190.html (that is, there's an extra dot). Someone with the privilege needs to fix this right quick. [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 06:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:Nvm. Fixed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
== Blackhead-Flaced Janice ==
Should it be pointed out that Blackhead-Flaced Janice is a joke on the misspelling of Pilmple-faced Bill? Is it possible to over-"over-analyze"?
:Give the [[HRWiki:Standards]] a read. I'd say this qualifies as both obvious and explaining the joke. So... no. [[User:64.198.255.1|64.198.255.1]] 20:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Homestar's Song ==

although it's similar, the song homestar's singing isn't the one from [[anything]] and [[the paper]]. that one comes from "never-ending story", but this one is different. i don't know where it's from, but i'm still deleting that inside reference. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 07:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:I'm considering the "Sail Away, Sail Away, Sail Away" part of [[Wikipedia:Orinoco Flow|Orinoco Flow]] by [[Wikipedia:Enya|Enya]]? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::i can see what you're coming from, but he says the line 4 times instead of three, so i'm guessing it's something else. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 08:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::It reminds me more of the Hot Hot Heat song [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdk8J1OOiJA Bandages], but again he says it four times instead of three. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:47, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Sounds a lot like [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBn-BpkNsA "Walking on Broken Glass"] by Annie Lennox [[User:Havl|Havl]] 20:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::That's really not how the song goes at all.[[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 00:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:It sounds to me like the Flintstone kids theme. "Yabba dab yabba dab yabba dabba do" [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scpjpz3ReMI FSK]
::Well, apparently, if everyone thinks it's something different, it has to be TTATOT.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Not necessarily, because it's possible that all but one of those people are wrong. :)
::::Just to clarify: the song Homestar sings in [[anything]] is the same tune as the themesong from The Neverending Story; that's an objective fact that can be demonstrated by anyone who knows musical notation. If a bunch of people came in saying "I think it sounds like the theme from Night Court!" and "No, it's totally 'Yesterday' by the Beatles!" and "Wait, I could swear I heard that tune in a Bach fugue somewhere" and "Are you sure it isn't from Merzbow's new album?", that wouldn't make it TTATOT. It would still actually be a reference to The Neverending Story, and all those other people would just be wrong.
:::::No, it's not the same. It's starts the same, but the end is different enough to make it obviously not the same.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 08:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I think you misread me. I'm talking about the song in [[anything]] ("The neverending soda"), not the one in [[licensed]]. I was using it as an example of a clear, indisputible reference, to make a more general point about the definition of "TTATOT." This new one isn't a clear, indisputible reference to anything I've heard, although obviously I haven't heard everything.
:::I agree with the Flintstones Kids theme. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::There are a lot of unsigned posts here, but I am making the judgement that this is a TTATOT connection, and unless a really positive match arises for this to be a parody of, it's not anything. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think the above people are onto something with the Flintstones Kids theme. For those who have knocked it, to clarify: this is referring to the 90's cartoon show, not the vitamin jingle, which is nothing alike. The idea's not too far-fetched, and we ''know'' TBC have heard of it from the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|TGS 7]] commentary. Shall maybe everyone give it a listen to be sure? I'm pulling it out of a decade-old memory here, avoiding listening to the link, and I think it's a fair match. Should they be doing it from memory, like I am, isn't a teeny bit of off-keyness expected? Plus, I mean...it's Homestar. He's flat allthedang time. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 14:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::: Yes, it sounds sort of kind of almost like the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xomL0HKwS0k Flintstone Kids] theme song, but it sounds as much like everything else mentioned above. I vote for TTATOT. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 14:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::The most convincing thing here is "walking on broken glass" which i have never heard, so i don't know if it sounds like it or not, but makes sense as it's ABOUT broken glass... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Check it out. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBn-BpkNsA "Walking on Broken Glass"] [[User:Havl|Havl]] 18:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I have to go with "Walking on Broken Glass," too. Yes, the tune HR sings has similarities to other tunes as well (which can't really be avoided, it's essentially "three notes, pause, three notes, pause, etc)", taking the subject matter of that song into account, it'd be too big of a coincidence to ignore, imo. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 22:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::But "Walking on Broken Glass" goes note, up a note, down a note (ie, same as the first). Homestar's song goes note, note, down a half note (except for the first "Broken glass" which admittedly has almost the same pattern, ie note, up a note, down a half note). [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I agree that it's not exactly the same, which is why I'm actually more hesitant than my first post makes me out to be, looking at it again. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 03:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Juys. I'm that age where I know all these tunes. It's not any of them. At all. Trust me. I cannot yet divine what, if anything, that tune refers to. (Are you aware I perform and figure out songs professionally?) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::your job is to figure out what songs are being lampooned by others? huh. at any rate, no, i don't think most people were aware. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 05:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

=="Human noses?"==

Does Strong Bad imply that he is not human? Has this ever happened before?
:I was wondering about that myself. I know it was in a quick joke, and may not hold a lot of weight, but I think something like whether or not you're human isn't something that you casually contradict in a joke with out paying attention. You wouldn't say "It looks just like me except with a human nose" even as a joke, unless it was already given that you weren't human, or at least weren't considered human.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 08:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::well, no matter how you look at it, he ''doesn't'' have a human nose, just like how homestar and the like don't have arms or pants, and those are mentioned all the time, too. i don't think it has much bearing on ''what'' anybody is. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 08:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Except he said "human nose". It would have been just like Homestar's arms if he just said "nose". The humor in that, just like the humor in [[fingers]] is adding something to him that he should have but obviously doesn't. It's the same way with the word human. The humor in adding a human nose to him is that he has no nose and he's not human.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 09:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Naw, i agree with Neumannz, it's not notable beyond his lack of a visible one, whether he said human or not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 09:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think that "human" here was intended to mean "realistic". These are not cartoon noses, or animal noses. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm with E.L. Cool on this one. I definitely think he meant shaped noses, with nostrils and a bridge and all that good stuff, as opposed to a simple little ball nose, like the one Stro Bro has on the side of the Puddin' Patch. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I think this joke has been referenced in [[alternate universe]] before. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 15:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== A mousy description? / Coach Z can't talk. ==

First, I'm not sure about that description of the Cheat's mural picture. His pudginess and distinctive, if unlabelled, jar of Hunny seem to suggest Winnie the Pooh to me. (The antennae, obviously, are out of place.)

Second, does Coach Z say "You're toys" or "You're twice"? I definitely heard the latter, which I can imagine him saying because he's weird, but the former makes sense too. Any thoughts? -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:yeah, i hear "twice" ---[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 16:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::I originally heard it as "toys" (and put it that way in the subtitles), but it now seems closer to "twice", even with Coach Z's accent. [[User:ZanderSchubert|ZanderSchubert]] 23:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I heard"toys" or "twoise". [[User:Justin Master of Nature|[[User:Justin Master of Nature|Master of Nature]]]] 19:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:"Twice" would make a lot of sense, as there are two Strong Bads in the room. One is, admittedly, a pinata.

== Shut up, lady! ==

Have this voice and Strong Bad's response appeared enough times now for us to consider it a running gag? I know it occurred in [[bottom 10]], and I think one other...though I wouldn't swear to it. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:as noted in inside references, the second one was [[your funeral]]. i don't know enough about the rules of running gags to say whether this should be considered one. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 16:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

The "Jungle Animals in Non-Jungle Situations" thing reminds me heavily of the Cartoon Network show "My Gym Partner is a Monkey." Anyone else?

: I think "Shut up, Lady" should be considered a running gag. Three instances have warranted others to be added if my memory serves my correctly. The fact we've seen it in 3 toons set far apart from each other tells me that TBC find it funny and would add it into future toons. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::Ummm, it is. It's [[Shut Up, Lady|here]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 17:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh... so it is. Uh, well... I'll... sports team. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bubs' Merchandise ==
<s>Doesn't</s> Isn't Bubs selling a Strong Bad beanie cap? Should that go into teh "fun facts" section? —[[User:SpazZataKc|SpazZataKc]]

Yeah. it should. -Coleslaw

Looks like the fourth item he's selling is The Cheat-shaped Post-It notes... see also [[secret recipes]]... [[User:Agnamaracs|Agnamaracs]] 22:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Gunkistan? ==

Why got the Facts about Gunkistan being a portmanteau and a inside reference to Gunk Iller deleted?

:It may be because they're wrong...The portmanteau is less obviously incorrect, but technically -stan and is a suffix, a word in some language (Arabic) meaning "land," which is why it's used at the end of so many countries (Afghanistan = Land of the Afghanis, Kazakhstan = Land of the Kazakhs, etc.). This would make it not a portmanteau. As for the other one, being a reference to the Gunk Iller, I see no reason why this was up there in the first place. Gunk is a very common term for any gross, ambiguous substance.

::I disagree with you on the portmanteau subject. if you look at the [[Portmanteaus]] page you'll notice "Millionzoic", "Tenthennial" and "Geographist", all words with a general suffix. Gunkistan should be there too. Maybe I was a little off by saying that it's in particular park Pakistan, but that's the only country that have the letter K to form -kistan (Gun-Kistan). I'm not readding it still so it won't start to be and edit war, but I think it should be discussed. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:::What about Kyrkistan? And almost Kazakhstan... [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Ok, there's no Kyrkistan, but [[Wikipedia:-stan#Countries|there are]] Tajikistan and Uzbekistan as countries (as well as some made up ones in the section below). Is anyone else objecting to this fun fact? It's not TTATOT because of the many countries, but it's a reference to -stan in general. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

== Old Lady ==

Now that the Old Lady made a third appearance, should we revive her page? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 16:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Two things ==
1.) Are we sure Homestar is singing "broken glass?" because I heard "working class". 2.) Will the shady daycare be haunting anybody else's nightmares or just mine?

:"Working Class" makes no sense. The pinatas were filled with broken glass as evidenced by the multiple lacerations and shards on Homestar's face. Since Strong Bad asked Homestar to reveal what was contained there-in. In true Homestar way he sung it. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:1) definitely broken glass, 2) just yours --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 17:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:"Working Class" makes so much more sense that its more than a little surprising that someone would post it. The fact that they did it anonymously makes me wonder if it was another trollish post designed to incite an argument. Its a wonder that someone didn't call this person names. -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]
::there's still time for that --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bubs arms. ==

Has anyone noticed that Bubs arms are animated the same way they were in Nightlife and how Coach Z's were in Trogday 08?--{{User:Kirbychu HR'D/sig}} 20:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. It's a new style design. Individually drawn per frame. It seems to be the way things are done from now on. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::yeah, we're not worrying about mentioning it anymore, since it's become standard and it's under bub's evolution page --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Toucan Sam, Zazu, and Cinderella ==
[[Image:Toucans.png|thumb|fourcans]]
<blockquote>The cover of "Jungle Animals in Decidedly Non-Jungle Situations" has a variation of The Cheat similar to The Lion King (The Cheat resembles Zazu) and Toucan Sam, mascot of Froot Loops. The other is Cinderella.</blockquote> This is in desperate need of rewording, but first we need to decide what we're doing with it. It can't be Zazu and Toucan Sam. Isn't that TTATOT? I don't really think it's either. It's just a toucan. A random jungle animal. Also, are we sure the other DVD is a play on Cinderella? It seems likely, but not certain. But if so, it needs to be worded better.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:Or is it just generally agreed that it's pointless to mention any of that crap? I'm for that, too.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think the refernce to Zazu can go, but Toucan Sam should stay. The Cheat looks nothing like Zazu, beyond the blue color and big beak, nor does he look much like a real toucan, but the striped beak gives him a strinking resemlance to Toucan Sam. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 21:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, if it looks like anything, it's Sam.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 22:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::I think it's generic, but the overall feel is the lion king. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Zazu's not even a toucan. He's a hornbill. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Although the colours are in a slightly different order, there is a clear similarity between Toucan The Cheat and Toucan Sam. This was the first thing I thought when I saw the DVD case.{{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I agree, the colors, especially the black followed by the pink, are particularly reminiscent of Toucan Sam. That's definitely what I thought too. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 18:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Another one who thinks it looks like Toucan Sam. Follow your nose! [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bioshock Reference? ==

Does the singing child at the daycare remind anyone else of the 2nd little sister sighting in Bioshock? The little sister is heard singing a song to the same tune, in a very creepy way. The fact that they're both singing the same tune, both children and the fact that it is very creepy in both cases suggests a reference, no?

:Senor Cardgage is not a child. And it's a common kid's tune. And Senor is always creepy, so it might not be a reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

==Toys R Us==

I think I saw a Toys R Us reference. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:We,, you may or may not be correct about that. It would depend on what you saw, which I have no idea what it was.... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::The drawings on the building. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Ugly Bird ==

Anyone else think that Homestar calling the swollen, floating The Cheat an "Ugly Bird" is a reference to... um... the one other email (I forget which one) where Homestar called a swollen, floating The Cheat an "Ugly Bird?"
: Someone else sure does, thats why they mentioned it in the article: ''The Easter egg where Homestar sees The Cheat float by and thinks he's an ugly bird is a reference to helium. '' -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]

==Blood?==
Just wondering how blood is an "Inside Reference." You don't have to be a Homestar Runer fan to fully appreciate blood jokes. [[User:Catman87|Catman87]]
:Because blood is a recurring element/gag in some toons. The [[blood]] page ties all appearances of blood together in a list. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::Then shouldn't be called a "Running Gag" instead of a "Inside Reference?" [[User:Catman87|Catman87]]
:::It refers, within the Homestar Runner universe, to the "blood" running gag. Does that make it clearer? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== This is like the best sbemail in a long while ==

It's awesome and good and classic and this is the best Bubs appearance since lunch special ;0
:that is a very forum-esque comment for a Talk page, so let's keep that to a minumum --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== beanies ==

Aren't those strong bad beanies that Bubs has a real item in the store? I'd check myself but I'm far too lazy.--[[User:97.82.22.53|97.82.22.53]] 00:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yes they are (I own one), which is why it is mentioned in the article http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/licensed#Remarks [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Murdered person at the daycare? ==

What's with the outline of the person? It looked like a person had been murdered or something.
:mentioned on the [[Papa Cardgage's PUDDIN' PATCH]] page --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

It's just there too add a scary feeling to that daycare. -Coleslaw

==Disney DVDs==

The DVDs resemble Cinderella and The Lion King. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:One problem, however is that The Lion King does not feature non-jungle situations. I think "The Wild" would be a closer match. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::Someone suggested TaleSpin. Huh? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::No, it represents The Jungle Book. [[User:76.173.92.70|76.173.92.70]] 23:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::: Strong Bad makes it clear what these are and why they ''vaguely'' resemble Disney movies: "The ones that are slight variations of slightly animated kids' movies. The kind they put right next to the check-out line, so Grandma might accidentally mistake it for the real thing." When Disney releases an animated movie, knock-off companies rush their own ultracheap adaptations of the public domain source to the stores while the big budget version's still in theaters in order to get kids and grandmas to get all excited seeing "Aladdin" (or whatever) in the store and buy it. Go look at the cheap movie bin at a drugstore or the supermarket checkout racks sometime if you've never seen these. Not Bothering To Make An Account, 37:94 Forty-Terst Decembuary 20X8.
For reasons I can no longer remember, I originally thought the "4" in the title of the Cinderella parody was a reference to the fact Disney made a Cinderella 3 last year. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:Could be a reference to all the crappy sequals to old movies that they came out with for the past few years, cinderella 2 and 3 (and 4?) among them... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Strong Bad as a ''lion'' with a (king's?) ''crown'' makes me think it's supposed to be The Lion King. Of course, The Cheat looks a whole lot more like Toucan Sam than Zazu ... Maybe it's an amalgam of several things. (I certainly don't see TaleSpin, though!) The other definitely looks like Cinderella to me (though his dress reminds me more of Snow White's ...)--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:The TaleSpin thing is the desk, a reference to Sheer Khan's desk. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::That's wediculous. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:06, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
All this opinion on which real-world movie this is it, can only make you more understand the joke. The DVDs are almost one thing, but not quite the other. Almost like Cardgage's speech. Don't try to overthink what particular story is each DVD, or try to break it down to pieces and put each piece in the right movie. That's just the whole joke. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:As the article says (or said at one point, this cold makes me not bothering to check the page to see if it's still there), it's a reference to the slipshod animated features that two-bit companies come out with to coincide with Disney's feature film release dates. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Um, TaleSpin wasn't a Disney movie, it was a Disney tv show. but I digress. Anon, 20:50, 22 February 2008

==Toothbrush==

Could someone explain the toothbrush? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:it's a novelty "sugar toothbrush" which i guess means it spins the sugary SB head against a kid's teeth --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

What's it supposed to be a parody of? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:What that description brings to my mind is those Cap Spin Pop devices that spin the little lollipops while they are licked. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::That's what I was thinking too. It's a lollipop, not a toothbrush. Evidence: electric toothbrushes don't spin like that, there is no evidence of bristles of any kind, it's extremely lollipop-shaped, and the usage of words like "rot the teeth out of" and "sugar". Also, given the other unlicensed merch (and unlicensed merch in general), a spinning lollipop fits much better than a toothbrush. As such, the explanation about novelty toothbrushes should either be reworded or outright destroyed. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Note also that he's talking specifically about unlicensed confections at that point (if we weren't already clear...). -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 04:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Broken-Glass Soda? ==

Anyone else find the Broken Glass/Ugly Bird song similar to the "Never-ending Soda" song from 'anything'?
:There is a thread above on this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

==Toothbrush description==

I think the toothbrush description is incomplete. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:I couldn't find a detailed enough link. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Homestar's Birthday ==

When Homestar says that it was "his best birthdays ever", does this mean that his birthday is on February 19? {{User:The Teach!/Twig}}
:You're assuming Homestar knows what he's talking about. This is not a safe assumption. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::So you're saying that he is so stupid that he doesn't even know whether it's really his birthday or not? {{User:The Teach!/Twig}}
::: Seeing as how he doesn't even know he's not wearing pants, yes, I am saying he's that stupid. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::he does know about the pants, it's just sometimes traumatic to think about it ([[long pants]]) --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 05:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::I says until they have a cartoon that specifically depicts his birthday, we can't really know. There's no guarantee that they had the party that day, or that the party was on the same day as his actual birthday, or, as aforementioned, that Homestar had any idea what he was talking about.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 06:18, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's like claiming that [[Nibbles|Nibbles']] birthday is on July 11 because that's the day [[bottom 10]] came out. The only birthdays we actually know are [[Happy Trogday|Trogdor's]] (Jan 13) and Stinkoman's (Jan 6). {{User:The Chort/sig}} 10:33, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

==Guttenberg==
Project Guttenberg is an online library. I think this should be mentioned somewhere - Owen
:guttenberg is a common last name, and a city, and this that and the other thing. No connection. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::Guttenburg is a reference to the Guttenburg Bible. All other uses of it are also references to that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Which is, in turn, a reference to the man who made said bible, [[Wikipedia:Johannes Gutenberg|Johannes Gutenberg]]. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 05:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Which is also, in turn, a reference to the man's father. Moral of the story: unless there's a direct correlation between something and a common name, it's best not to make a reference to it. [[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 08:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::For what it's worth, when I first saw Guttenberg, I thought of [[Wikipedia:Steve Guttenberg|Steve Guttenberg]] ... So I agree. Not a specific reference to anything.--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

==Intro==

The intro sounds familiar. I'm thinking some kids show. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

==Disney==

Is Disney becoming a running gag now? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:Show me the other references. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

==Jungle Animal DVD==

The desk on the Jungle Animal DVD reminds me of Becky's desk from TaleSpin. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:look [[#Disney DVDs|up]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

== Beginning email song ==

It appears that Strongbad is singing to the tune of "I'm Gonna Wash That Man Right Out Of My Hair"
Can I get someone to second that? --[[User:68.166.201.226|68.166.201.226]] 23:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
: The first couple of notes sound like it, but not the rest of it. --[[User:97.82.22.53|97.82.22.53]] 01:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk:licensed

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Foxby:

Talk:Sickly Sam's Big Outing

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Foxby: /* Ribcage Stomach */

== Why "Shaboigen"? ==

Why? I looked and I couldn't see anywhere where it was spelled as Shaboigen, and not the actual spelling of Cheboygan or Sheboygan, depending on which one you're talking about (most likely Cheboygan, because they're in the 20s and referring to bootlegging). --Tony from Cheboygan, MI

== "And the rest!" ==

I'm not going to add it to the page, but did anyone else think about [[The Robot (storybook)|The Robot]], [[Mr. Bland]], and [[Señor]] at "The Rest"? It's probably a reach, but the one in the middle IS robotic-looking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

No i think you are right that was the first thing i thought when i saw the toon. {{User:The-homsarrunner/sig}} 13:52 2008 Feb 11

The robot, I can see. The other two, not so much. One's an alien (Old Timey [[Nebulon]]?!), and the other looks like a peanut with a black eye or something. I don't see the connection. But that's just me.
--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The one on the right reminded me of Emmitt Nervend from Freakazoid. --DavidCatmull

Same thing here. DEFINATLY saw Emmitt Nervend. D: -[[User:Aranai|Aranai]] 16:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I kinda do think they're supposed to be Old Timey Robot, Bland, and Señor. That was my first thought when I saw them, and them not being in the actual toon fits in context the way Mr. Bland and Señor are often mentioned in passing as if they're main characters but they're really not. On the other hand, however, you have different fingers. And since we can't be sure, and since they weren't in the toon and are not likely to ever be in an Old Timey toon, I don't think it needs to be mentioned anywhere but on a talk page.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 00:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== "Dee = Ugly One?" ==

Is the cow that [[Sickly Sam]] ends up with the Old-Timey [[The Ugly One]]? I mean, she has quite similar specs and hair.--{{User:Kerny Mantis}} 09:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:yea and with the glasses maybe... but we should wait for another opinion because so far the only old timey characters have been the characters that live in Free Country USA so... it probaly isn't The Ugly One.

::Check the names of the the sender's friends in the email [[comics]] to see.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 21:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:::None of them are named Dee. The Ugly One is not from Free Country USA, the glasses were just popular in that era, and SHE'S A COW! So, no. No Ugly One.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 00:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== The Birds? ==

The Sneak being attacked by the seagulls reminded me of the Alfred Hitchcock movie ''The Birds''. Does anyone else think this is a reference?
--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 13:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Firehouse reference? ==

This is a bit obscure, but at the end of this cartoon, Sickly Sam says, "I've finally found the love of a lifetime." which could be in reference to a song of the same name from the hard rock band Firehouse (since the Brothers Chaps seem very knowledgable about hard rock bands from that era). Other similar references were "Kevin Dubrow" a Quiet Riot reference from The Bet email and "Here I go again on my own" a Whitesnake reference from the Mile email. Not to mention all the old guitarist pics they have up in their audio recording room (seen in Sample of Style).

== Horse or Cow? ==

I'm pretty sure Dee is a horse, not a cow. For one thing, she has no utter. Plus, a horse would make more sense at a glue factory. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 20:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
: You're right. Fixed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It's definitely a cow, udders or no udders. It's got the spots, the cow-ish face and the cow-ish tail. Besides, cows are used at a glue factory as well, not just horses. ({User:Kerny Mantis)} 21.02 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:I think the tail is one of the best bits of evidence for her being a horse. It's basically just a mass of hair, like a horse's tail. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Problems playing file? ==

Is it just me, or did they do something to break the file? There's no audio after the word "..program" in the intro?

== Why no Places ==

In the "Places" section on the wiki, why aren't there any listed? Also I would wonder if I could make the page called the [[Saw Mill]] where The Homestar Runner and Old-Timey Marzipan were being sawed by Old-Timey Strong Bad after Sickly Sam burned the film.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 21:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:They're not listed because no one's bothered to list them yet. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Alley ==

Is "Skid Row" the [[Old-Timey]] alley?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 22:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:It's possible! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Super Modern Telegram ==

As [[The Homestar Runner]] gets the telegram it say SUPER MODERN TELEGRAM and as he reads it it says HONEST TELEGRAM.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 23:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:Feel free to add that to the Remarks section. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Goofs? Really? ==

There are currently two goofs listed:<blockquote>
*When Old Timey Strong Bad jumps in on the boardwalk, Sickly Sam's hat disappears.
*The color of the end stripe on The Sneak's tail changes periodically throughout the toon.</blockquote>
Given the nature of this toon, I'm not sure we can count these as goofs. There are many purposefully introduced "goofs" in this toon. We should simply ignore it as we do with [[Powered by The Cheat]] "goofs".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

: I agree. Especially about the hat. [[User:Lelila|Lelila]] 07:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::Hmmm... that's true, TBC might have done that just because in those older films sometimes they would forget to keep prop continuity. Not sure though. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 20:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

== Foiled? ==

Are we sure that "Foiled again!" is from the Dudley Do-right segment? I mean, Dick Dastardly from the old CN cartoon Wacky Racers also uses that. And that's just one example...

== Dressed to the 5 3/4s? ==

Is this a play on the phrase "Dressed to the nines?" implying that Sickly Sam will only be dressed moderately better? If so, does this warrant an explanation?
:It sounds like a good idea. I'd never heard that expression before, and that phrase slightly confused me.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Live Action? ==

Should it be mentioned under Remarks that unlike previous Old-Timey cartoons, this one seems to be styled after live action TV shows, with props on strings and poorly edited outakes?--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 01:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
: The poor editing in Old-Timey cartoons has been seen before, but I do agree that it's unusual for there to be obvious sticks and props in what should be an ANIMATED show. Remark-worthy? Dunno. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:50, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's remark-worthy. Previous old-timey toons looked like they showed what actually happened back then, while this one clearly shows that it's all staged with scripts, acting, bad special effects and editing.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Fort Wayne Locomotive ==

Anyone else think his voice might be based on Art Carney (TV's Ed Norton, and the inspiration for Yogi Bear and Barney Rubble)?
: Someone apparently thought exactly that, as Ed Norton and Art Carney were previously mentioned before someone else removed it as "Dubious". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::I see it got re-added... maybe it's true, but wouldn't it be better to mention this on [[Fort Wayne Locomotive|his character page]] instead? It's not like we put "[[Bubs]]' voice sounds like Redd Foxx" in the RWRs of every toon *he* appears in... -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

==Five and 3/4==

Is that a reference to five and dime stores? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 05:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
: I don't think so. I think it was parodying the phrase "dressed to the nines." [[User:Lelila|Lelila]]

== Ribcage Stomach ==

It seems to be a reference to cartoons such as Tom and Jerry, as they would often use the ribcage as a stomach. Perhaps another 80s reference?
:Tom and Jerry predate the '80s by about 40 years.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 02:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
::I didn't say Tom and Jerry were '80s, but that was more of a 'cartoons such as.' I'm not sure entirely on dates, but cheap '80s cartoons probably had their share of ribcagey stomachs. Anyway. NOT THE POINT. xD

== Possible STUFF? ==

The line "We shan't get foiled again" is a possible old-timey reference to the 1971 song Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who. {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 15:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:No. Common phrase. Not clear reference. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:30, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Give Him the Business ==

When Strong Bad says that step one of the plan is to "give him the business", it reminded me of a couple of referree's description of personal foul penalties. Video clips of them can be found on YouTube, along with a reference from the new American Gladiators. Not sure if someone wants to include that in the Fun Facts, but I'd thought I'd mention it. {{unsigned|148.129.71.52|15:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)}}
:Giving the business is an oooooold expression. Watch just about any ''Leave It To Beaver'' episode to see that it was commonly used back in the late-50's. Here's an example:

<blockquote>
'''Wally:''' Boy, Beaver, wait'll the guys find out you were hanging around with a girl. They'll really give you the business. 
'''Beaver:''' But gee, Wally, you hang around with girls and the guys don't give you the business. 
'''Wally:''' Well, that's because I'm in high school. You can do a lot of stuff in high school without getting the business.
</blockquote>

:Whether or not it was in use much before then, I have no idea. But I do know that this is more likely to be a reference to something old than to something from this year, given that this is an old-timey cartoon. (BTW, I'm not claiming this is a reference to ''Leave It To Beaver'', I'm just making the point that it's an old expression.) {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Doorbell? ==

Do you think we should add something like this to the Trivia section?
Like, that says:

The cut during the telegram scene may be because doorbells haven't been invented yet.
:Or, more likely, The Homestar Runner messed up his lines and the editor was incompetent. (Plus doorbells were invented way before the 1930s.) {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== So... What happened to them? ==
What do you think happened to Old-Timey Homestar and Old-Timey Marzipan at the Saw Mill? I guess that Fat Dudley came to the rescue just in time, but that wasn't shown. I figured that would be possible for two reasons.

*1: Fat Dudley was mysteriously absent, and should have appeared at some point. This is less likely.
*2:The "Saw Mill" scene is an retro cartoon cliche, and a hero (in this case, Fat Dudley) would have most definetly come to the rescue just in time, as the cliche goes. This is very likely.

So, what do you think happened to them?
:I'm thing of a word. It begins with an "s". What is it? Oh yeah, it's speculation! No offense, but this is complete speculation. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 20:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Fact Consolidation? ==
This one is listed under "Explanations":
* Early 20th century films would be partially colorized in some parts of certain scenes for emphasis. This colorization would have to be done after the film was already made.
And this one is listed under "Remarks":
* The first color films appeared in the late 1920s, but experimental color films (which this resembles) with only part of the scene colorized or tinted, were done as early as first decade of the 20th century.
Shouldn't these two be connected together into a single fact?

== Hmmm? ==
I Just Saw That The Way Fort Wayne Locomotive Spells Trouble Is Like How Tigger Fromw That Show About That Bear Spells His Name :T-I-Double G-ger

What he means is that in Winnie-The-Pooh, Tigger spells his name T I Double-guh Er, and the Fort Wayne Locomotive does something like that.

That's more or less what it reminded me of, too. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 20:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

== Boo for Sickly Sam!? ==

They sound more like gasps or something like that to me. {{User:Mee/sig}} 21:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
: I'd thought something like that too but was never sure enough to tell. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:: Well, I wasn't sure what to call it, so I just went with "boos"... if you can think of a better description, go ahead and fix it... the reaction to SB's intro is definitely booing though. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
::: Might be groans. You know, like, "Uuugh... not that creepy diseased kid!" It's pretty hard to tell. There's not really a definite "boo" that I can hear, it's just kind of sounds of displeasure. --[[User:Lelila|lelila]] 04:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

== Parcheesi ==

Do you s'pose that Sickly Sam eating a board game is some kind of reference to how Strong Sad's only friends were board games? Something kind of like that? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 20:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
:No, it's a bit of a stretch. And it's just a joke anyway ("Curses! All they've got in here is Parcheesi!"). {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

== The Fort Wayne Locomotive's Music? ==

Okay, that 8-bit style music that plays when TFWL runs away sounds like it could very well be from some NES game or something, especially since you can hear some beeps and stuff. Anyone more familiar with the NES era want to confirm or deny this? Because it wouldn't surprise me a bit. I mean, they've referenced NES tons of times before... --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
:I'm only an intermediate NES aficionado, but I don't recognize it. It sounds to me like it fits pretty well with the rest of the music in the toon.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 23:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure that's not old-timey toon music. Listen again. The background music stops when he says "A 1, and a 2..." and then when he runs off, it sounds like some sort of NES music--you know, beeps and whatnot. I wish I could remember. Was there a NES football game? Or something? --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 03:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

couch patch

Foxby — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:30:23 GMT

Foxby: /* Goofs */

{{sbenav|88}}
[[Image:sbemail88.png|thumb|Teddy Graham Memories]]

"Your pal" asks Strong Bad about the history ''behiend'' the patch on his couch.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}} (as [[Has Matt?]]), {{Film|Strong Sad}}, [[Lil' Strong Bad]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The Cheat}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]]

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' Monday, November 10, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 3:01

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Three}}

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm going to try something a little different. ''{typing}'' print out million dollar bill.exe

''{The computer responds with "Bad command or file name"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{not typing}'' What? Oh. ''{typing}'' no for real, print me out a million dollar bill, man.exe

''{The computer responds with "Syntax error."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' um, this time really print me out a million dollars bill.nofoolin'

''{The computer responds with "Cut it out, you."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{not typing}'' What the—! Don't give me none of that crosstalk! Oh well, it was worth a shot. Now on to... ''{sighs}'' on to the e-mail.

''{Strong Bad hits enter, types "strongbad_email.exe," and hits enter again}''

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">is there a story behiend the patch 
on the couch? if so, do tell! 
 
form, 
your pal</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "behiend" as "buh-HEEND"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh, my pal! ''{typing}'' Well Palbert, it's a good story. And now you all have to hear it.

''{Cut to flashback of Strong Bad in the basement with a sack, acting mysterious.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Seems I was looking for a place to hide all my Aztec gold. But when I made the first incision, not only did I realize that I don't have any Aztec gold,—

''{The bag falls open to reveal it was full of oil filters}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —but I unleashed a stench of biblical proportions.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad in front of the computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' They had to call in a hazmat team just to hose me hose me hose me ''{typed then deleted, typed then deleted, then typed}'' down!

''{Cut to The Poopsmith, wearing a [[Wikipedia:HAZMAT|HAZMAT]] suit labeled "Has Matt?", hosing down a screaming Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I had to spend a fortune on Glade plugins.

''{Cut to Strong Sad standing next to Strong Bad at the computer.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Now wait a second! That's not how ''I'' remember it.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, and I'm sure every loser out there wants to hear your loser opinions, loser.

'''STRONG SAD:''' They do!

''{Cut to flashback of a young Strong Bad in the basement}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' I seem to remember a young Strong Bad thinking that Olympic sprinter Carl Lewis was a woman. And that he was hot!

''{Lil' Strong Bad writes "Strong Bad LUVS Carla Lewis!! and thinks shes hott!!" with a Sharpie on the couch.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That is entirely untrue.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Lies! All lies!

''{Cut to Homestar standing behind Strong Bad.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Clearly I'm the only one who remembers how it all went down.

''{Cut to flashback of Homestar laying on the couch in the basement. The couch clearly has the patch already on it. Homestar spits Teddy Grahams.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{voiceover}'' It was not so long ago that I was in Strong Bad's basement spitting Teddy Grahams all over the place. One of them got stuck to the ceiling.

''{A Teddy Graham sticks to the ceiling. Homestar spits another up at it repeatedly, trying to dislodge it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Homestar, shut up! This is about that patch on the couch. It's clearly already on there in your flashback.

''{Cut back to the two Brothers Strong and Homestar at the computer}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, oh, ohhhhh. I thought this week's e-mail was entitled "Teddy Graham Memories."

''{Cut to shadowed "This guy's voice has been digitally altered" interview session}''

'''MYSTERIOUS PERSON''' ''{Clearly Coach Z, with his voice digitally lowered}'': No, no. I got the ''real'' scoop. Strong Bad had me over for Gumbo one night, and I don't know what kind of doodoo meat he was using in there, but I had to puke!

''{Cut to flashback of Coach Z's shadow in the basement}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I went downstairs and I noticed this little rip in the couch, so I puked in it!

''{Coach Z's shadow pukes in the couch. Cut back to interview session}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{voiceover}'' I... I'm sorry for what I done!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad in front of the computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I liked that gumbo! I didn't use no doodoo meat. ''{shaking fist}'' If I ever find out who that guy is... Well, palbert, there's your answer. Me? I'm gonna go over there.

''{Strong Bad starts to get up from his seat, but sits down again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{not typing}'' Oh wait! ''{typing}'' make homestar's head explode.exe

''{The computer responds with "No can do." The camera pulls back so we can see Strong Sad and Homestar again}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No can do.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh crap! This computer is worthless.

''{Zoom back to just Strong Bad and the computer. Strong Bad now gets up and leaves. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Million dollar bill.PNG|thumb|print million dollar bill, please.exe]]
*At the end, you can click on a hidden "print million dollar bill, please.exe" at the bottom to print an [[ASCII art]] million dollar bill from The Paper. This is more easily seen if you use the contrast knob to make the background blue. You can click on the million dollar bill once it has printed out to make it go away.
*At the end you can click on the "make homestars head explode.exe" link to cut to a short of Homestar, again spitting [[Teddy Grahams]] all over the basement.
:''{cut back to the basement. Homestar is lying on the couch spitting Teddy Grahams all over again, with The Cheat standing nearby. After a few seconds, The Cheat's head explodes}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Dang, The Cheat. That computer's got something against you. Did you ever, like, pour Mountain Dew all over it?

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===

*[[Wikipedia:Hazmat|Hazmat]] means "Hazardous Material." A Hazmat team, usually associated with Fire or other public safety departments, is a group of people specially trained to clean up any hazardous material spills.

===Trivia===

*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#old game|old game]]".
*This is the first time we don't see The Cheat's eyes after his [[The Cheat's Head Exploding|head explodes.]]

===Remarks===

*The "print out million dollar bill please.exe" Easter egg remains black if the contrast knob is adjusted.
*There has never actually been a $1,000,000 bill. The highest currency ever printed by the U.S. Mint was a [[Wikipedia:Large denominations of United States currency|$100,000 bill]] in 1934 depicting Woodrow Wilson. It was only used among Federal Reserve Banks and was never made available for use by the general public.
*Aside from being able to type with boxing gloves on, Strong Bad appears to be able to type just as quickly with one hand as he can with two.
*Theoretically, all the stories could have been true: Young Strong Bad could have written on the couch and removed the ink somehow, Coach Z could have puked in a separate tear, resulting in the "stench of Biblical proportions".
*The first time Strong Bad says "Palbert," it is capitalized, but the second time, it isn't.

===Goofs===
*During Homestar's flashback, one of the spots of ceiling texture twitches and moves.
*When Coach Z's silhouetted figure is speaking, a tiny gap appears on the bill of his cap when his head moves.
*When The Paper comes down in the Easter egg there is a line jutting out on the left side of it.
*When Strong Bad puts his hand up to the screen at the end of the email in response to Coach Z, you don't see its reflection on the screen.
*In Homestar's Easter egg, The Cheat's right arm is missing.
*After The Cheat's head explodes, you can still see a small black line of his hair on the back of his head.
*When Homestar says, "No can do," he doesn't make a regular "O" mouth movement.

===Inside References===

*In the "make homestars head explode.exe" Easter egg, Homestar Runner asks The Cheat, "Did you ever like, pour [[Mountain Dew]] all over it?" That refers to the email [[anything]], in which Homestar Runner poured Mountain Dew all over Strong Bad's computer.
*The knife Strong Bad uses to cut open the couch is similar to the [[Big Knives]] of other Strong Bad Emails.
*Homestar remarking "I thought this email was called teddy graham memories." is another instance of [[Fourth Wall Breaks|Breaking the Fourth Wall]].

===Real-World References===

*[[Wikipedia:Glade (brand)#Plug-Ins|Glade PlugIns]] are scented air fresheners that plug into electrical wall sockets.
*Little Strong Bad is wearing a shirt featuring a rather well known advertisement for [[Wikipedia:Rock City|"Rock City"]], a tourist trap in Georgia.
*[[Wikipedia:Carl Lewis|Carl Lewis]] was an Olympic sprinter active during the 1980s and early 1990s. His sister [http://vm.mtsac.edu/relays/HallFame/CroLewis.htm Carol] was an Olympic long jumper.
*Teddy Grahams are any of a number of bear-shaped cookies produced by [[Wikipedia:Nabisco|Nabisco]].
*When Coach Z is silhouetted and his voice is altered, it is a reference to shows like [[Wikipedia:America's Most Wanted|''America's Most Wanted'']], where a witness wants to keep his/her identity safe. (i.e. Witness X)

===Fast Forward===

*Coach Z is silhouetted and has his voice digitally altered again in one of the [[myths & legends]] Easter eggs.

==External Links==

*[[HR:sbemail88.html|watch "couch patch"]]
*[[HR:sbemail88.swf|view the Flash file "couch patch"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]]

Talk:Shopping For Danger

Foxby — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:16:11 GMT

Foxby: /* what the.... */

==Fun Facts Formatting==

Shouldn't the fun facts be changed to the new sub-categories? --[[User:24.10.244.31|24.10.244.31]] 19:09, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Removal of Fun Facts==
I removed the following "Fun Facts" from the article:
*If you zoom in on Gunhaver's binoculars, you can see the Blue Lazor tank.
*PRiCE STYLE's capitilasation could be a reference to the album SMiLE by Brian Wilson.
**More eerie weirdness: They were both released on the same day.
*The voice of Crackotage is done in the style of [http://www.johnnorrisbrown.com/classic-nick/heathcliff/Image48.jpg Wordsworth] from the 80's cartoon Heathcliff (and the Catallac Cats), whose voice was done by Stanley Jones. Wordsworth was a rhyming cat that also had headphones on but unlike Crackotage, Wordsworth rollerskated.
**Actually, since Cheat Commandos is a pretty direct parody of the G.I. Joe cartoon, Crackotage is a parody of the G.I. Joe character Roadblock, who also spoke in rhymes.
*The grocery store "muzak" is a different version of the main Cheat Commandos theme. Some cartoons such as Inspector Gadget would also have all the background music as a rehashing of the main theme as well.
*The grocery store "muzak" also sounds like the Nook 'n' Go music from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Crossing Animal Crossing].
*Reynold's voice is similar to that of Brains from the 60's TV series Thunderbirds.
*Reynolds' voice seems to be a mix between Dilbert and Drew Carey, although the scene where Reynolds trys on the backpack might have been inspired by the scene when Louis Tully (Rick Moranis) in Ghostbusters II, puts on the proton pack and wants to be a ghostbuster.
Not only are several conversational, but a few contradict each other. And others are just downright silly. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:37, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

More:
*This is the 1st time we hear what all the popular Cheat Commandos [exept Foxface] sound like.
*Fightgar reports back to Gunhaver by speaking into a wrist device. But when Gunhaver receives the transmission, it has now become video picture of Fightgar.
*Is this the first time we see the back of a Cheat character?
*No. In [[Arcade Game]] we saw the back of The Cheat, and I'm sure it's happened in other places besides.
These aren't all the Cheat Commandos. Who's to say the wrist device doesn't include a video transmitter? And Fun Facts should not be questions. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:58, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

Couldn't we keep the one about Roadblock? It seems pretty legit to me (though I know very little about GI Joe). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

this cartoon leads me to think fierbert is ((the cheat))even in the cheat camados.

== Closed STUFF ==

===Blue Laser Babies (DECLINED)===
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch (DECLINED) ===
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dr. Decline.''' An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Disney "Mickey" Logo (ACCEPTED) ===
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Revise Slightly.''' "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg." Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I think it is just the shape of the spot. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Acceptinated!''' I see it, and it's still kinda interesting, even if it wasn't intentional. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== Fan-freaking-tastic ===
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Doesn't seem likely for some reason. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This saying was around long before that show ever aired.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' Stretch. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
*'''Decline.''' I hate that show. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 19:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Speaker sound ===
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Nah. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' It's a general sound effect.
*'''Decline''' Notta. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' Nup. [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used all over the place. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
*'''Decline.''' Only if the sound is unusually reused is it interesting. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:40, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Price Style (Declined) ===
Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.

*'''Decline.''' Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
**'''Second!'''
**'''Third''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:09, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** Can we get you to sign your votes? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:23, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** sorry, didnt have an account than. Its signed now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:09, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== Let's Rock and Roll! (Declined) ===
Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

*'''Decline''' Let me be the first to say this is obvious and unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:24, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:49, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Gee willikers, it must be obvious day on Camp Stupid
*'''Delete.''' This is a little too obvious. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

== The Definition of "Declined" ==
See those fun facts marked "Declined" above? That means they're not to be put back on the article page. I just went through and deleted them from the article after someone had put them back in. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 01:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
:Let me eat a little crow. I think I spoke a little too soon. After looking at the History, it seems that the fun facts never got deleted in the first place. I apologize if I offended anybody, but I guess I'm a little cranky tonight. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 01:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

== What the crap!? Not accesible! ==

On the Toons menu, if you scroll over this toon, the whole screen goes white. Anyone else getting this? [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]] 22:25, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Not me. I think somethings just wrong with your monitor or computer or something. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== Snowing at the Beach ==

There is no mention that "Snowing at the Beach" is a clear reference to a nuclear winter, the theoretical effect of a full scale nuclear war. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:10, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Clear reference? From my experience, beaches aren't always located in warm areas. For instance, seasonal changes bring cold weather to places that are warm in other months. During these colder times, I'm sure snow would not be uncommon, or at the very least not limited to the extreme case of a nuclear winter.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:18, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Hmmmm... you make a very good point! It will be hard to counter. I should also add he could refer to a weather machine. Nevertheless... I must point to the transcript. Gunhaver says ''"use all the savings to make a '''button''' that will make it snow at the beach!"'' (''emphasis added''). So clearly this is not a case of seasonal changes but rather a 'man-made' event. Further down, when Gunhaver is asked about beach volleyball, he replies: ''"There won't be any more beach volleyball!"'' This sounds apocalyptic, even if the rest of the commandoes don't see it that way and care only about the volleyball. So the reference may not be as clear, but I still beleive it to be there. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:42, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::I'd just like to say that the fact that he says a "button that will make it snow at the beach!" makes it ''less'' likely this is any kind of reference to nuclear winter. Why would anybody describe the act of starting a nuclear apocalypse as "making a button to make it snow at the beach?" A simple weather control device that ruins people's fun is more in keeping with the style of "cartoonish supervillainy" you'd get from 80s cartoon terrorists than atomic armageddon... [[User:Awkwardconversationalist|Awkwardconversationalist]] 07:46, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Well, Gunhaver is wrong, even if it ''does'' snow. Don't you remember the Visa commercial (starring Misty May and Kerri Walsh) where they were training for Olympic sand volleyball in the off-season on a snow-covered beach? That one's a classic. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:45, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== The Twins != The Crimson Twins? ==

Wuzza? Someone baleeted my "Blue Laser Twins = Cobra's Crimson Twins" real-world reference? It was apparently too long ago to be in the history, so I ask: How come? I mean, they're from Blue Laser, they're from Cobra, the Cobra twins have an eyepatch, the BL twins have two, both sets of twins complete each other's utterances and speak in almost exactly the same tone. The Crimson Twins are on GI Joe, Cheat Commandos is a parody of GI Joe. Short of giving one of the twins a scar, this is as overt as references get.
:I'd suggest providing links to pics/bios of the alleged Crimson Twins to support this claim. I don't remember any crimson twins, but it was a LONG time ago. And no, I was not the one that deleted it. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
::Well, Wikipedia hasn't got all that much[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBRA_Organization]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Guard]], but there really isn't all that much to tell. They're twins. They're part of Cobra. They complete each other's sentences. I was wrong about the eyepatch, though. It's only a scar. Nonetheless, they seem to be the obvious connotation when someone mentions twins in the context of Cobra. Why else would TBC work a pair of twins into the script, anyway? The joke would have worked just as well with only one baby, if we assume there's no reference involved.
:::No further comments/objections? I guess I'll go ahead and restore the factoid.
::::Not so fast. There are some holes in your theory. First of all, as you have noted, there are no scars. Second, and more important, Tomax and Xamot were ''mirror'' twins. If the babies referred to them, the eye patches would be on ''different'' eyes. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:27, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Well, obviously it's not a perfect match. By that same token, I don't think Duke ever used a Colt .45, yet no one sees this as grounds for dismissing the connection between Duke and Gunhaver. And the gun is Gunhaver's raison d'etre, not the sort of thing you just gloss over. And Duke wore pants. The fact remains: "Twins" in the context of Cobra immediately connotates the Crimson Twins, to anyone familiar with the show. And, once again, if the joke is simply that criminal masterminds take their kids shopping, why were there twins, and not just one baby? Twins with the exact same indolent tone of voice, which really does sound awfully similar to Tomax and Xamot's?
::::::I don't remember mentioning anything about the validity of the Duke/Gunhaver connection. Whether or not it's true is beside the point here. What ''is'' the point is that Tomax and Xamot didn't sound anything like these babies. And their uniforms were completely different from normal Cobra uniforms. I admit that to say "twins" and "Cobra" in the same sentence ''reminds'' me of them, but to label this a reference is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:08, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well, that's the scope of my argument, at any rate. Still seems more valid than many of the connections that make it past the STUFF phase.

== what the.... ==
[[Image:Lazarler.gif|thumb|I kind of dunno how I got this]]
I somehow came across this pic when using a seek bar on the toon. Should I put it on the article? [[User:X66x66|x66x66]] 9:32pm 8/23/06

:If you need something special to see it (i.e. using the seek bar), then there's no reason to put it on the article page. You can do all kinds of crazy things that produce weird results. But they are neither goofs nor glitches. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

:I dunno if that's worth a mention (see Loafing's comment) but you could make a Build Your Own The Cheat game with this. xP

== You betta break yourself ==
Would it be worth mentioning that the phrase "you better break yourself" was in the song Soldier by 50 cent? I thought I have heard it somewhere else before too, It must be a quote from somewhere. -Kyleinjapan
:"You'''<nowiki>'d</nowiki>''' better break yourself" appears as an Ice Cube lyric. Those two are the only results Google seems to return. Hmm. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Oh my Lan ==

I am quite sure he says, "Oh my Lan", not oh my land. Lan makes sense because lan is a inter-network, and he is a major office person/IT guy. I think I am gonna go change it. {{unsigned|24.18.240.159|03:32, 5 March 2007}}
:I hear a faint d. And I don't see how "Oh, my LAN" would make more or even as much sense as "Oh, my land".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe it comes from living in an accent where people regularly drop the final consonants off words, but I too can hear the "D". "Oh my land" is a real phrase... not exactly common, but real... Google finds nearly 200,000 pages with it on them (granted, most don't use it in the same manner)... it's one of those expletives where you almost say something naughty, notice, and change it around at the end, like "sugar". "Oh my LAN" makes no sense whatsoever, even if Reynold is an IT guy. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it's a play on that exclamation "Lan' sakes!", (but this is just a visual dialect of "Land sakes!" anyway). Personally, I hear the "D", but it ''is'' faint. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 01:00, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

== Reinforcements ==

The possessive of "Reinforcements" would be Reinforcements's (as his name isn't plural, it just happens to have an "s" at the end).

Talk:Shopping For Danger

Foxby — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:13:56 GMT

Foxby: /* You betta break yourself */

==Fun Facts Formatting==

Shouldn't the fun facts be changed to the new sub-categories? --[[User:24.10.244.31|24.10.244.31]] 19:09, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Removal of Fun Facts==
I removed the following "Fun Facts" from the article:
*If you zoom in on Gunhaver's binoculars, you can see the Blue Lazor tank.
*PRiCE STYLE's capitilasation could be a reference to the album SMiLE by Brian Wilson.
**More eerie weirdness: They were both released on the same day.
*The voice of Crackotage is done in the style of [http://www.johnnorrisbrown.com/classic-nick/heathcliff/Image48.jpg Wordsworth] from the 80's cartoon Heathcliff (and the Catallac Cats), whose voice was done by Stanley Jones. Wordsworth was a rhyming cat that also had headphones on but unlike Crackotage, Wordsworth rollerskated.
**Actually, since Cheat Commandos is a pretty direct parody of the G.I. Joe cartoon, Crackotage is a parody of the G.I. Joe character Roadblock, who also spoke in rhymes.
*The grocery store "muzak" is a different version of the main Cheat Commandos theme. Some cartoons such as Inspector Gadget would also have all the background music as a rehashing of the main theme as well.
*The grocery store "muzak" also sounds like the Nook 'n' Go music from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Crossing Animal Crossing].
*Reynold's voice is similar to that of Brains from the 60's TV series Thunderbirds.
*Reynolds' voice seems to be a mix between Dilbert and Drew Carey, although the scene where Reynolds trys on the backpack might have been inspired by the scene when Louis Tully (Rick Moranis) in Ghostbusters II, puts on the proton pack and wants to be a ghostbuster.
Not only are several conversational, but a few contradict each other. And others are just downright silly. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:37, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

More:
*This is the 1st time we hear what all the popular Cheat Commandos [exept Foxface] sound like.
*Fightgar reports back to Gunhaver by speaking into a wrist device. But when Gunhaver receives the transmission, it has now become video picture of Fightgar.
*Is this the first time we see the back of a Cheat character?
*No. In [[Arcade Game]] we saw the back of The Cheat, and I'm sure it's happened in other places besides.
These aren't all the Cheat Commandos. Who's to say the wrist device doesn't include a video transmitter? And Fun Facts should not be questions. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:58, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

Couldn't we keep the one about Roadblock? It seems pretty legit to me (though I know very little about GI Joe). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

this cartoon leads me to think fierbert is ((the cheat))even in the cheat camados.

== Closed STUFF ==

===Blue Laser Babies (DECLINED)===
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch (DECLINED) ===
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dr. Decline.''' An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Disney "Mickey" Logo (ACCEPTED) ===
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Revise Slightly.''' "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg." Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I think it is just the shape of the spot. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Acceptinated!''' I see it, and it's still kinda interesting, even if it wasn't intentional. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== Fan-freaking-tastic ===
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Doesn't seem likely for some reason. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This saying was around long before that show ever aired.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' Stretch. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
*'''Decline.''' I hate that show. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 19:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Speaker sound ===
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Nah. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' It's a general sound effect.
*'''Decline''' Notta. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' Nup. [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used all over the place. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
*'''Decline.''' Only if the sound is unusually reused is it interesting. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:40, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Price Style (Declined) ===
Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.

*'''Decline.''' Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
**'''Second!'''
**'''Third''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:09, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** Can we get you to sign your votes? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:23, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** sorry, didnt have an account than. Its signed now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:09, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== Let's Rock and Roll! (Declined) ===
Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

*'''Decline''' Let me be the first to say this is obvious and unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:24, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:49, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Gee willikers, it must be obvious day on Camp Stupid
*'''Delete.''' This is a little too obvious. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

== The Definition of "Declined" ==
See those fun facts marked "Declined" above? That means they're not to be put back on the article page. I just went through and deleted them from the article after someone had put them back in. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 01:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
:Let me eat a little crow. I think I spoke a little too soon. After looking at the History, it seems that the fun facts never got deleted in the first place. I apologize if I offended anybody, but I guess I'm a little cranky tonight. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 01:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

== What the crap!? Not accesible! ==

On the Toons menu, if you scroll over this toon, the whole screen goes white. Anyone else getting this? [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]] 22:25, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Not me. I think somethings just wrong with your monitor or computer or something. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== Snowing at the Beach ==

There is no mention that "Snowing at the Beach" is a clear reference to a nuclear winter, the theoretical effect of a full scale nuclear war. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:10, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Clear reference? From my experience, beaches aren't always located in warm areas. For instance, seasonal changes bring cold weather to places that are warm in other months. During these colder times, I'm sure snow would not be uncommon, or at the very least not limited to the extreme case of a nuclear winter.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:18, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Hmmmm... you make a very good point! It will be hard to counter. I should also add he could refer to a weather machine. Nevertheless... I must point to the transcript. Gunhaver says ''"use all the savings to make a '''button''' that will make it snow at the beach!"'' (''emphasis added''). So clearly this is not a case of seasonal changes but rather a 'man-made' event. Further down, when Gunhaver is asked about beach volleyball, he replies: ''"There won't be any more beach volleyball!"'' This sounds apocalyptic, even if the rest of the commandoes don't see it that way and care only about the volleyball. So the reference may not be as clear, but I still beleive it to be there. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:42, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::I'd just like to say that the fact that he says a "button that will make it snow at the beach!" makes it ''less'' likely this is any kind of reference to nuclear winter. Why would anybody describe the act of starting a nuclear apocalypse as "making a button to make it snow at the beach?" A simple weather control device that ruins people's fun is more in keeping with the style of "cartoonish supervillainy" you'd get from 80s cartoon terrorists than atomic armageddon... [[User:Awkwardconversationalist|Awkwardconversationalist]] 07:46, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Well, Gunhaver is wrong, even if it ''does'' snow. Don't you remember the Visa commercial (starring Misty May and Kerri Walsh) where they were training for Olympic sand volleyball in the off-season on a snow-covered beach? That one's a classic. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:45, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== The Twins != The Crimson Twins? ==

Wuzza? Someone baleeted my "Blue Laser Twins = Cobra's Crimson Twins" real-world reference? It was apparently too long ago to be in the history, so I ask: How come? I mean, they're from Blue Laser, they're from Cobra, the Cobra twins have an eyepatch, the BL twins have two, both sets of twins complete each other's utterances and speak in almost exactly the same tone. The Crimson Twins are on GI Joe, Cheat Commandos is a parody of GI Joe. Short of giving one of the twins a scar, this is as overt as references get.
:I'd suggest providing links to pics/bios of the alleged Crimson Twins to support this claim. I don't remember any crimson twins, but it was a LONG time ago. And no, I was not the one that deleted it. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
::Well, Wikipedia hasn't got all that much[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBRA_Organization]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Guard]], but there really isn't all that much to tell. They're twins. They're part of Cobra. They complete each other's sentences. I was wrong about the eyepatch, though. It's only a scar. Nonetheless, they seem to be the obvious connotation when someone mentions twins in the context of Cobra. Why else would TBC work a pair of twins into the script, anyway? The joke would have worked just as well with only one baby, if we assume there's no reference involved.
:::No further comments/objections? I guess I'll go ahead and restore the factoid.
::::Not so fast. There are some holes in your theory. First of all, as you have noted, there are no scars. Second, and more important, Tomax and Xamot were ''mirror'' twins. If the babies referred to them, the eye patches would be on ''different'' eyes. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:27, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Well, obviously it's not a perfect match. By that same token, I don't think Duke ever used a Colt .45, yet no one sees this as grounds for dismissing the connection between Duke and Gunhaver. And the gun is Gunhaver's raison d'etre, not the sort of thing you just gloss over. And Duke wore pants. The fact remains: "Twins" in the context of Cobra immediately connotates the Crimson Twins, to anyone familiar with the show. And, once again, if the joke is simply that criminal masterminds take their kids shopping, why were there twins, and not just one baby? Twins with the exact same indolent tone of voice, which really does sound awfully similar to Tomax and Xamot's?
::::::I don't remember mentioning anything about the validity of the Duke/Gunhaver connection. Whether or not it's true is beside the point here. What ''is'' the point is that Tomax and Xamot didn't sound anything like these babies. And their uniforms were completely different from normal Cobra uniforms. I admit that to say "twins" and "Cobra" in the same sentence ''reminds'' me of them, but to label this a reference is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:08, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well, that's the scope of my argument, at any rate. Still seems more valid than many of the connections that make it past the STUFF phase.

== what the.... ==
[[Image:Lazarler.gif|thumb|I kind of dunno how I got this]]
I somehow came across this pic when using a seek bar on the toon. Should I put it on the article? [[User:X66x66|x66x66]] 9:32pm 8/23/06

:If you need something special to see it (i.e. using the seek bar), then there's no reason to put it on the article page. You can do all kinds of crazy things that produce weird results. But they are neither goofs nor glitches. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== You betta break yourself ==
Would it be worth mentioning that the phrase "you better break yourself" was in the song Soldier by 50 cent? I thought I have heard it somewhere else before too, It must be a quote from somewhere. -Kyleinjapan
:"You'''<nowiki>'d</nowiki>''' better break yourself" appears as an Ice Cube lyric. Those two are the only results Google seems to return. Hmm. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Oh my Lan ==

I am quite sure he says, "Oh my Lan", not oh my land. Lan makes sense because lan is a inter-network, and he is a major office person/IT guy. I think I am gonna go change it. {{unsigned|24.18.240.159|03:32, 5 March 2007}}
:I hear a faint d. And I don't see how "Oh, my LAN" would make more or even as much sense as "Oh, my land".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe it comes from living in an accent where people regularly drop the final consonants off words, but I too can hear the "D". "Oh my land" is a real phrase... not exactly common, but real... Google finds nearly 200,000 pages with it on them (granted, most don't use it in the same manner)... it's one of those expletives where you almost say something naughty, notice, and change it around at the end, like "sugar". "Oh my LAN" makes no sense whatsoever, even if Reynold is an IT guy. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it's a play on that exclamation "Lan' sakes!", (but this is just a visual dialect of "Land sakes!" anyway). Personally, I hear the "D", but it ''is'' faint. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 01:00, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

== Reinforcements ==

The possessive of "Reinforcements" would be Reinforcements's (as his name isn't plural, it just happens to have an "s" at the end).

Talk:Shopping For Danger

Foxby — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:13:06 GMT

Foxby: /* You betta break yourself */

==Fun Facts Formatting==

Shouldn't the fun facts be changed to the new sub-categories? --[[User:24.10.244.31|24.10.244.31]] 19:09, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Removal of Fun Facts==
I removed the following "Fun Facts" from the article:
*If you zoom in on Gunhaver's binoculars, you can see the Blue Lazor tank.
*PRiCE STYLE's capitilasation could be a reference to the album SMiLE by Brian Wilson.
**More eerie weirdness: They were both released on the same day.
*The voice of Crackotage is done in the style of [http://www.johnnorrisbrown.com/classic-nick/heathcliff/Image48.jpg Wordsworth] from the 80's cartoon Heathcliff (and the Catallac Cats), whose voice was done by Stanley Jones. Wordsworth was a rhyming cat that also had headphones on but unlike Crackotage, Wordsworth rollerskated.
**Actually, since Cheat Commandos is a pretty direct parody of the G.I. Joe cartoon, Crackotage is a parody of the G.I. Joe character Roadblock, who also spoke in rhymes.
*The grocery store "muzak" is a different version of the main Cheat Commandos theme. Some cartoons such as Inspector Gadget would also have all the background music as a rehashing of the main theme as well.
*The grocery store "muzak" also sounds like the Nook 'n' Go music from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Crossing Animal Crossing].
*Reynold's voice is similar to that of Brains from the 60's TV series Thunderbirds.
*Reynolds' voice seems to be a mix between Dilbert and Drew Carey, although the scene where Reynolds trys on the backpack might have been inspired by the scene when Louis Tully (Rick Moranis) in Ghostbusters II, puts on the proton pack and wants to be a ghostbuster.
Not only are several conversational, but a few contradict each other. And others are just downright silly. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:37, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

More:
*This is the 1st time we hear what all the popular Cheat Commandos [exept Foxface] sound like.
*Fightgar reports back to Gunhaver by speaking into a wrist device. But when Gunhaver receives the transmission, it has now become video picture of Fightgar.
*Is this the first time we see the back of a Cheat character?
*No. In [[Arcade Game]] we saw the back of The Cheat, and I'm sure it's happened in other places besides.
These aren't all the Cheat Commandos. Who's to say the wrist device doesn't include a video transmitter? And Fun Facts should not be questions. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:58, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

Couldn't we keep the one about Roadblock? It seems pretty legit to me (though I know very little about GI Joe). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

this cartoon leads me to think fierbert is ((the cheat))even in the cheat camados.

== Closed STUFF ==

===Blue Laser Babies (DECLINED)===
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch (DECLINED) ===
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dr. Decline.''' An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Disney "Mickey" Logo (ACCEPTED) ===
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Revise Slightly.''' "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg." Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I think it is just the shape of the spot. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Acceptinated!''' I see it, and it's still kinda interesting, even if it wasn't intentional. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== Fan-freaking-tastic ===
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Doesn't seem likely for some reason. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This saying was around long before that show ever aired.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' Stretch. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
*'''Decline.''' I hate that show. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 19:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Speaker sound ===
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Nah. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' It's a general sound effect.
*'''Decline''' Notta. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' Nup. [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used all over the place. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
*'''Decline.''' Only if the sound is unusually reused is it interesting. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:40, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Price Style (Declined) ===
Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.

*'''Decline.''' Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
**'''Second!'''
**'''Third''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:09, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** Can we get you to sign your votes? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:23, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** sorry, didnt have an account than. Its signed now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:09, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== Let's Rock and Roll! (Declined) ===
Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

*'''Decline''' Let me be the first to say this is obvious and unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:24, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:49, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Gee willikers, it must be obvious day on Camp Stupid
*'''Delete.''' This is a little too obvious. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

== The Definition of "Declined" ==
See those fun facts marked "Declined" above? That means they're not to be put back on the article page. I just went through and deleted them from the article after someone had put them back in. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 01:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
:Let me eat a little crow. I think I spoke a little too soon. After looking at the History, it seems that the fun facts never got deleted in the first place. I apologize if I offended anybody, but I guess I'm a little cranky tonight. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 01:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

== What the crap!? Not accesible! ==

On the Toons menu, if you scroll over this toon, the whole screen goes white. Anyone else getting this? [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]] 22:25, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Not me. I think somethings just wrong with your monitor or computer or something. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== Snowing at the Beach ==

There is no mention that "Snowing at the Beach" is a clear reference to a nuclear winter, the theoretical effect of a full scale nuclear war. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:10, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Clear reference? From my experience, beaches aren't always located in warm areas. For instance, seasonal changes bring cold weather to places that are warm in other months. During these colder times, I'm sure snow would not be uncommon, or at the very least not limited to the extreme case of a nuclear winter.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:18, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Hmmmm... you make a very good point! It will be hard to counter. I should also add he could refer to a weather machine. Nevertheless... I must point to the transcript. Gunhaver says ''"use all the savings to make a '''button''' that will make it snow at the beach!"'' (''emphasis added''). So clearly this is not a case of seasonal changes but rather a 'man-made' event. Further down, when Gunhaver is asked about beach volleyball, he replies: ''"There won't be any more beach volleyball!"'' This sounds apocalyptic, even if the rest of the commandoes don't see it that way and care only about the volleyball. So the reference may not be as clear, but I still beleive it to be there. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:42, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::I'd just like to say that the fact that he says a "button that will make it snow at the beach!" makes it ''less'' likely this is any kind of reference to nuclear winter. Why would anybody describe the act of starting a nuclear apocalypse as "making a button to make it snow at the beach?" A simple weather control device that ruins people's fun is more in keeping with the style of "cartoonish supervillainy" you'd get from 80s cartoon terrorists than atomic armageddon... [[User:Awkwardconversationalist|Awkwardconversationalist]] 07:46, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Well, Gunhaver is wrong, even if it ''does'' snow. Don't you remember the Visa commercial (starring Misty May and Kerri Walsh) where they were training for Olympic sand volleyball in the off-season on a snow-covered beach? That one's a classic. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:45, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== The Twins != The Crimson Twins? ==

Wuzza? Someone baleeted my "Blue Laser Twins = Cobra's Crimson Twins" real-world reference? It was apparently too long ago to be in the history, so I ask: How come? I mean, they're from Blue Laser, they're from Cobra, the Cobra twins have an eyepatch, the BL twins have two, both sets of twins complete each other's utterances and speak in almost exactly the same tone. The Crimson Twins are on GI Joe, Cheat Commandos is a parody of GI Joe. Short of giving one of the twins a scar, this is as overt as references get.
:I'd suggest providing links to pics/bios of the alleged Crimson Twins to support this claim. I don't remember any crimson twins, but it was a LONG time ago. And no, I was not the one that deleted it. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
::Well, Wikipedia hasn't got all that much[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBRA_Organization]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Guard]], but there really isn't all that much to tell. They're twins. They're part of Cobra. They complete each other's sentences. I was wrong about the eyepatch, though. It's only a scar. Nonetheless, they seem to be the obvious connotation when someone mentions twins in the context of Cobra. Why else would TBC work a pair of twins into the script, anyway? The joke would have worked just as well with only one baby, if we assume there's no reference involved.
:::No further comments/objections? I guess I'll go ahead and restore the factoid.
::::Not so fast. There are some holes in your theory. First of all, as you have noted, there are no scars. Second, and more important, Tomax and Xamot were ''mirror'' twins. If the babies referred to them, the eye patches would be on ''different'' eyes. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:27, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Well, obviously it's not a perfect match. By that same token, I don't think Duke ever used a Colt .45, yet no one sees this as grounds for dismissing the connection between Duke and Gunhaver. And the gun is Gunhaver's raison d'etre, not the sort of thing you just gloss over. And Duke wore pants. The fact remains: "Twins" in the context of Cobra immediately connotates the Crimson Twins, to anyone familiar with the show. And, once again, if the joke is simply that criminal masterminds take their kids shopping, why were there twins, and not just one baby? Twins with the exact same indolent tone of voice, which really does sound awfully similar to Tomax and Xamot's?
::::::I don't remember mentioning anything about the validity of the Duke/Gunhaver connection. Whether or not it's true is beside the point here. What ''is'' the point is that Tomax and Xamot didn't sound anything like these babies. And their uniforms were completely different from normal Cobra uniforms. I admit that to say "twins" and "Cobra" in the same sentence ''reminds'' me of them, but to label this a reference is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:08, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well, that's the scope of my argument, at any rate. Still seems more valid than many of the connections that make it past the STUFF phase.

== what the.... ==
[[Image:Lazarler.gif|thumb|I kind of dunno how I got this]]
I somehow came across this pic when using a seek bar on the toon. Should I put it on the article? [[User:X66x66|x66x66]] 9:32pm 8/23/06

:If you need something special to see it (i.e. using the seek bar), then there's no reason to put it on the article page. You can do all kinds of crazy things that produce weird results. But they are neither goofs nor glitches. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== You betta break yourself ==
Would it be worth mentioning that the phrase "you better break yourself" was in the song Soldier by 50 cent? I thought I have heard it somewhere else before too, It must be a quote from somewhere. -Kyleinjapan
:"You'''<nowiki>'d</nowiki>''' better break yourself" appears as an Ice Cube lyric. Those two are the only results Google seems to return. Hmm. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I don't think there's anything too special about it, but I'd say this is a PERFECT way to start up a 'The Cheat Dress Up' game. xD Make your own today! --[[User:Foxby|Foxby]]

== Oh my Lan ==

I am quite sure he says, "Oh my Lan", not oh my land. Lan makes sense because lan is a inter-network, and he is a major office person/IT guy. I think I am gonna go change it. {{unsigned|24.18.240.159|03:32, 5 March 2007}}
:I hear a faint d. And I don't see how "Oh, my LAN" would make more or even as much sense as "Oh, my land".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe it comes from living in an accent where people regularly drop the final consonants off words, but I too can hear the "D". "Oh my land" is a real phrase... not exactly common, but real... Google finds nearly 200,000 pages with it on them (granted, most don't use it in the same manner)... it's one of those expletives where you almost say something naughty, notice, and change it around at the end, like "sugar". "Oh my LAN" makes no sense whatsoever, even if Reynold is an IT guy. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it's a play on that exclamation "Lan' sakes!", (but this is just a visual dialect of "Land sakes!" anyway). Personally, I hear the "D", but it ''is'' faint. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 01:00, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

== Reinforcements ==

The possessive of "Reinforcements" would be Reinforcements's (as his name isn't plural, it just happens to have an "s" at the end).

Talk:Couch Mumbling

Foxby — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:26:43 GMT

Foxby: /* Pilot Wings */

What about doing what was done for the [[Floppy Disk Container]]? On each toon it appears in, just link it to the id-tag, instead of putting it in real-world references?

<nowiki>Strong Bad [[Couch Mumbling|mumbles]] [[Couch Mumbling#Pilotwings|Pilotwings]]</nowiki>

Or something along those lines? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:02, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

== Pilot Wings ==

I actually have Pilot Wings for the N64.

The available vehicles are:
Gyrocoptor (like a cross between a helicoptor and airplane-- two propellors, one in front, one in back)
Rocket Belt (jetpack)
Hang Glider

Biplanes were not available, nor actual helicoptors.

After unlocking them, you could also fly with:
Human Cannonball
Wings strapped to your arms (called "birdman")
Skydiving
Jump Boots (I don't remember the exact name for these)

Just making the information on the page more accurate. xP
:Hmm... My SNES poster on the wall above my bed says "You'll take-off, fly, and land a classic biplane. And the farther you go, the tougher it gets until you face the ultimate test — piloting a helicopter on a dangerous emergency rescue mission!" But then, of course, it showed box art for Special Tee Shot so who knows? I never had the game. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:36, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

::You actually never even SEE a biplane in the game, although there are helicoptor landing pads (only on Wingman and Jump Boots stages, I think, as other times they became landing targets). You never fly a helicoptor, either. Also, I don't think there are rescue missions, though you do shoot missiles at a giant robot... but I dunno how far that counts as 'rescue'. Wait, SNES? That's a whole 'nother Pilot Wings right there. I'onno. SB could be referencing either.

Talk:Shopping For Danger

Foxby — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:07:50 GMT

Foxby: /**/Reinforcements

==Fun Facts Formatting==

Shouldn't the fun facts be changed to the new sub-categories? --[[User:24.10.244.31|24.10.244.31]] 19:09, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Removal of Fun Facts==
I removed the following "Fun Facts" from the article:
*If you zoom in on Gunhaver's binoculars, you can see the Blue Lazor tank.
*PRiCE STYLE's capitilasation could be a reference to the album SMiLE by Brian Wilson.
**More eerie weirdness: They were both released on the same day.
*The voice of Crackotage is done in the style of [http://www.johnnorrisbrown.com/classic-nick/heathcliff/Image48.jpg Wordsworth] from the 80's cartoon Heathcliff (and the Catallac Cats), whose voice was done by Stanley Jones. Wordsworth was a rhyming cat that also had headphones on but unlike Crackotage, Wordsworth rollerskated.
**Actually, since Cheat Commandos is a pretty direct parody of the G.I. Joe cartoon, Crackotage is a parody of the G.I. Joe character Roadblock, who also spoke in rhymes.
*The grocery store "muzak" is a different version of the main Cheat Commandos theme. Some cartoons such as Inspector Gadget would also have all the background music as a rehashing of the main theme as well.
*The grocery store "muzak" also sounds like the Nook 'n' Go music from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Crossing Animal Crossing].
*Reynold's voice is similar to that of Brains from the 60's TV series Thunderbirds.
*Reynolds' voice seems to be a mix between Dilbert and Drew Carey, although the scene where Reynolds trys on the backpack might have been inspired by the scene when Louis Tully (Rick Moranis) in Ghostbusters II, puts on the proton pack and wants to be a ghostbuster.
Not only are several conversational, but a few contradict each other. And others are just downright silly. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:37, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

More:
*This is the 1st time we hear what all the popular Cheat Commandos [exept Foxface] sound like.
*Fightgar reports back to Gunhaver by speaking into a wrist device. But when Gunhaver receives the transmission, it has now become video picture of Fightgar.
*Is this the first time we see the back of a Cheat character?
*No. In [[Arcade Game]] we saw the back of The Cheat, and I'm sure it's happened in other places besides.
These aren't all the Cheat Commandos. Who's to say the wrist device doesn't include a video transmitter? And Fun Facts should not be questions. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:58, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

Couldn't we keep the one about Roadblock? It seems pretty legit to me (though I know very little about GI Joe). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

this cartoon leads me to think fierbert is ((the cheat))even in the cheat camados.

== Closed STUFF ==

===Blue Laser Babies (DECLINED)===
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch (DECLINED) ===
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dr. Decline.''' An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Disney "Mickey" Logo (ACCEPTED) ===
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Revise Slightly.''' "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg." Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I think it is just the shape of the spot. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Acceptinated!''' I see it, and it's still kinda interesting, even if it wasn't intentional. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== Fan-freaking-tastic ===
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Doesn't seem likely for some reason. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This saying was around long before that show ever aired.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' Stretch. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
*'''Decline.''' I hate that show. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 19:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Speaker sound ===
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Nah. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' It's a general sound effect.
*'''Decline''' Notta. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' Nup. [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used all over the place. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
*'''Decline.''' Only if the sound is unusually reused is it interesting. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:40, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Price Style (Declined) ===
Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.

*'''Decline.''' Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
**'''Second!'''
**'''Third''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:09, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** Can we get you to sign your votes? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:23, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** sorry, didnt have an account than. Its signed now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:09, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== Let's Rock and Roll! (Declined) ===
Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

*'''Decline''' Let me be the first to say this is obvious and unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:24, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:49, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Gee willikers, it must be obvious day on Camp Stupid
*'''Delete.''' This is a little too obvious. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

== The Definition of "Declined" ==
See those fun facts marked "Declined" above? That means they're not to be put back on the article page. I just went through and deleted them from the article after someone had put them back in. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 01:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
:Let me eat a little crow. I think I spoke a little too soon. After looking at the History, it seems that the fun facts never got deleted in the first place. I apologize if I offended anybody, but I guess I'm a little cranky tonight. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 01:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

== What the crap!? Not accesible! ==

On the Toons menu, if you scroll over this toon, the whole screen goes white. Anyone else getting this? [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]] 22:25, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Not me. I think somethings just wrong with your monitor or computer or something. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== Snowing at the Beach ==

There is no mention that "Snowing at the Beach" is a clear reference to a nuclear winter, the theoretical effect of a full scale nuclear war. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:10, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Clear reference? From my experience, beaches aren't always located in warm areas. For instance, seasonal changes bring cold weather to places that are warm in other months. During these colder times, I'm sure snow would not be uncommon, or at the very least not limited to the extreme case of a nuclear winter.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:18, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Hmmmm... you make a very good point! It will be hard to counter. I should also add he could refer to a weather machine. Nevertheless... I must point to the transcript. Gunhaver says ''"use all the savings to make a '''button''' that will make it snow at the beach!"'' (''emphasis added''). So clearly this is not a case of seasonal changes but rather a 'man-made' event. Further down, when Gunhaver is asked about beach volleyball, he replies: ''"There won't be any more beach volleyball!"'' This sounds apocalyptic, even if the rest of the commandoes don't see it that way and care only about the volleyball. So the reference may not be as clear, but I still beleive it to be there. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:42, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::I'd just like to say that the fact that he says a "button that will make it snow at the beach!" makes it ''less'' likely this is any kind of reference to nuclear winter. Why would anybody describe the act of starting a nuclear apocalypse as "making a button to make it snow at the beach?" A simple weather control device that ruins people's fun is more in keeping with the style of "cartoonish supervillainy" you'd get from 80s cartoon terrorists than atomic armageddon... [[User:Awkwardconversationalist|Awkwardconversationalist]] 07:46, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Well, Gunhaver is wrong, even if it ''does'' snow. Don't you remember the Visa commercial (starring Misty May and Kerri Walsh) where they were training for Olympic sand volleyball in the off-season on a snow-covered beach? That one's a classic. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:45, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== The Twins != The Crimson Twins? ==

Wuzza? Someone baleeted my "Blue Laser Twins = Cobra's Crimson Twins" real-world reference? It was apparently too long ago to be in the history, so I ask: How come? I mean, they're from Blue Laser, they're from Cobra, the Cobra twins have an eyepatch, the BL twins have two, both sets of twins complete each other's utterances and speak in almost exactly the same tone. The Crimson Twins are on GI Joe, Cheat Commandos is a parody of GI Joe. Short of giving one of the twins a scar, this is as overt as references get.
:I'd suggest providing links to pics/bios of the alleged Crimson Twins to support this claim. I don't remember any crimson twins, but it was a LONG time ago. And no, I was not the one that deleted it. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
::Well, Wikipedia hasn't got all that much[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBRA_Organization]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Guard]], but there really isn't all that much to tell. They're twins. They're part of Cobra. They complete each other's sentences. I was wrong about the eyepatch, though. It's only a scar. Nonetheless, they seem to be the obvious connotation when someone mentions twins in the context of Cobra. Why else would TBC work a pair of twins into the script, anyway? The joke would have worked just as well with only one baby, if we assume there's no reference involved.
:::No further comments/objections? I guess I'll go ahead and restore the factoid.
::::Not so fast. There are some holes in your theory. First of all, as you have noted, there are no scars. Second, and more important, Tomax and Xamot were ''mirror'' twins. If the babies referred to them, the eye patches would be on ''different'' eyes. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:27, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Well, obviously it's not a perfect match. By that same token, I don't think Duke ever used a Colt .45, yet no one sees this as grounds for dismissing the connection between Duke and Gunhaver. And the gun is Gunhaver's raison d'etre, not the sort of thing you just gloss over. And Duke wore pants. The fact remains: "Twins" in the context of Cobra immediately connotates the Crimson Twins, to anyone familiar with the show. And, once again, if the joke is simply that criminal masterminds take their kids shopping, why were there twins, and not just one baby? Twins with the exact same indolent tone of voice, which really does sound awfully similar to Tomax and Xamot's?
::::::I don't remember mentioning anything about the validity of the Duke/Gunhaver connection. Whether or not it's true is beside the point here. What ''is'' the point is that Tomax and Xamot didn't sound anything like these babies. And their uniforms were completely different from normal Cobra uniforms. I admit that to say "twins" and "Cobra" in the same sentence ''reminds'' me of them, but to label this a reference is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:08, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well, that's the scope of my argument, at any rate. Still seems more valid than many of the connections that make it past the STUFF phase.

== what the.... ==
[[Image:Lazarler.gif|thumb|I kind of dunno how I got this]]
I somehow came across this pic when using a seek bar on the toon. Should I put it on the article? [[User:X66x66|x66x66]] 9:32pm 8/23/06

:If you need something special to see it (i.e. using the seek bar), then there's no reason to put it on the article page. You can do all kinds of crazy things that produce weird results. But they are neither goofs nor glitches. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== You betta break yourself ==
Would it be worth mentioning that the phrase "you better break yourself" was in the song Soldier by 50 cent? I thought I have heard it somewhere else before too, It must be a quote from somewhere. -Kyleinjapan
:"You'''<nowiki>'d</nowiki>''' better break yourself" appears as an Ice Cube lyric. Those two are the only results Google seems to return. Hmm. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Oh my Lan ==

I am quite sure he says, "Oh my Lan", not oh my land. Lan makes sense because lan is a inter-network, and he is a major office person/IT guy. I think I am gonna go change it. {{unsigned|24.18.240.159|03:32, 5 March 2007}}
:I hear a faint d. And I don't see how "Oh, my LAN" would make more or even as much sense as "Oh, my land".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe it comes from living in an accent where people regularly drop the final consonants off words, but I too can hear the "D". "Oh my land" is a real phrase... not exactly common, but real... Google finds nearly 200,000 pages with it on them (granted, most don't use it in the same manner)... it's one of those expletives where you almost say something naughty, notice, and change it around at the end, like "sugar". "Oh my LAN" makes no sense whatsoever, even if Reynold is an IT guy. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it's a play on that exclamation "Lan' sakes!", (but this is just a visual dialect of "Land sakes!" anyway). Personally, I hear the "D", but it ''is'' faint. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 01:00, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

== Reinforcements ==

The possessive of "Reinforcements" would be Reinforcements's (as his name isn't plural, it just happens to have an "s" at the end).

stunt double

Foxby — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:38:24 GMT

Foxby: /* Inside References */

{{aboutemail}} {{forcharacter|The Stunt Double}}
{{sbenav|80}}
[[Image:sbemail80.png|thumb|"Sounds Dangeresque..."]]

Louis wonders if Strong Bad has ever used a stunt double. Strong Bad responds by showing clips from his latest movie, ''Dangeresque 2: This Time, It's Not Dangeresque 1''.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):'''
*{{Film|Strong Bad}} as [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]]
*{{Film|Coach Z}} as [[Renaldo]]
*{{Film|Strong Mad}}
*{{Film|Strong Sad}} (stunt double)
*{{Film|Homestar Runner}}
*{{Film|Bubs}} as [[Unnamed Bad Guy]]
*{{Film|The Cheat}}
*{{Film|Marzipan}} as [[Cutesy Buttons]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Smoky Office]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[The Field]]

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' Monday, July 21, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 2:17

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Two}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' Oh, I took the email to the market, and I bought it some kind of fish sauce.

''{reading email}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Hello Strong Bad, 
I'm a long time watcher first time 
writer. I was wondering if you ever 
use a stunt double. 
 
Your whatever, 
Louis</blockquote>

{''After reading "I'm a long time watcher first time writer", Strong Bad says, "Ooh, an LTWFTW!". He then proceeds to read "I was just wondering" although the word "just" is not present in the original text of the e-mail. Then he reads the sender's name as "Luis. Er, Lewis. Louie."''}

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' A stunt double?!? No way, Lucy! Only big wusses and lesser wimps use stunt doubles. I've always done my own stunt work. Check me out in this summer blockbuster we just finished. It's called ''Dangeresque 2: This time, it's not Dangeresque 1''.

''{A cue card is held up with the title: ''Dangeresque II: This Time, It's Not Dangeresque 1''. Then a newspaper is shown. The headline has been covered with a piece of paper that says, "'''MiSSiNG TAPE STOLEN!!!''' Dangeresque seen on the case. For real." Cut to an office scene with Strong Bad, wearing sunglasses, and Coach Z, wearing a turban that has a fez precariously perched on top.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': It's not going to be easy finding that missing tape.

'''COACH Z''': Well, Dangeresque, if anyone can do it, I'm sure you can.

'''STRONG BAD''': You're right, Renaldo. But the elevator's broken in this building. So I'm gonna have to ''jump''! ''{makes a jumping motion}''

''{Cut to Strong Sad, wearing a paper bag with Strong Bad's face drawn on it on his head and oven mitts, standing on top of a ladder on the roof of Bubs' Concession Stand. He is pushed off and falls into a wading pool marked "shark pond!". The shot is then edited so that it's Strong Bad walking away. One of Strong Sad's oven mitts can be seen behind the concession stand. Cut to Strong Bad's basement, where Strong Bad and Strong Mad are standing.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Either give me that tape, or punch me in the face!

''{Strong Mad punches. Edit to Strong Sad (as always, wearing the Strong Bad paper bag), who gets punched in the face and goes flying back. We hear a crashing sound.}''

'''STRONG SAD''': ''{off-screen}'' Ow.

''{Cut to the field. Strong Bad is holding a ping-pong paddle. Behind him are the missing tape and Homestar.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Where is that tape?

''{Homestar realizes he can be seen and moves away. Cut to Bubs, wearing a monocle and holding The Cheat.}''

'''BUBS''': Welcome to oblivion, Danger-skew! ''{pulls a lever}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad standing in the field, then edit to Strong Sad. A Heavy Lourde falls on Strong Sad.}''

'''STRONG SAD''': Ow. That's what I like to call a broken neck.

''{Cut to Strong Bad and Marzipan in the field.}''

'''MARZIPAN''': I won't watch you die, Dangeresque.

'''STRONG BAD''': Don't worry, Cutesy Buttons. Tonight, dying's not on the menu. So I'm gonna have to ''jump''!

''{Strong Sad is once again pushed off of Bubs' Concession Stand. This time the pool is marked "Pie Factory", though for a split second after Strong Sad lands in it the sign changes back to "shark pond!". Edit to Strong Bad walking away. Cut back to the office.}''

'''COACH Z''': Sounds pretty dangerous.

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{turns around}'' No... sounds ''Dangeresque''!

''{Cut back to the Compy.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' Okay, you can all return from the edge of your seats. Wow, watching that gives me goosebumps every time, man. I mean, the stunts I do are so ''{pause}'' done by me. And remember to watch out in June 2004 for ''{stops typing as a logo appears for:}'' "Dangeresque 3: ''The Criminal Projective.''" In 3D! ''{"3D" is added to the logo and the screen becomes drawn in red and blue lines like a 3D movie.}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the very end, click on the big "3D" part of the logo.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, I'm in 3D! Check out all my dimensions. I have height, width... and now, for a limited time only... depth!
*After the 3D spiel, click on the words "watch out" for more 3D action.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{turns to the camera}'' Who needs diskettes? ''{flings floppy disks at the camera}'' Brreow, brreow, krreow! ''{Holds up another floppy}'' Hey, you want this disk? ''{pulls it back}'' Well you can't have it. ''{holds it up again}'' No you j' di' take it. ''{pulls it back}'' No, you can't have it. ''{taunts the viewer by holding up and pulling back the floppy repeatedly}'' No—don't—take—have it.

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Fish sauce|Fish sauce]] (also called "Nuoc Mam", "Patis", or "Nam Pla") is a salty sauce made from fermented seafood, integral in Southeast Asian cooking.
*Strong Bad saying "Ooh, an LTWFTW" is taken from most call-in radio shows, when some people say LTFT or LTLFTC, meaning ''Long Time First Time'' and ''Long Time Listener, First Time Caller'', respectively.
*Bubs plays the stereotypical evil genius with a [[Wikipedia:monocle|monocle]] and a furry pet under one arm. [[Wikipedia:Ernst Blofeld|Ernst Blofeld]] from the James Bond movies is an early example of this, with characters like [[Wikipedia:Dr. Evil|Dr. Evil]] and [[Wikipedia:Dr. Claw|Dr. Claw]] following the same formula.
*Bubs mispronounces Dangeresque's name as "Danger-skew," as though trying to read it phonetically and failing horribly.

===Trivia===
*The title of the [[Periodicals|newspaper]] is "The Local Newspapes."
**The newspaper article reads:
<blockquote>The Lemmer was treated for polar bear 
related injuries shortly after the 4th 
inning shenanigans. Officials say the 
bear 'wandered on down' from the North 
Pole with rich, creamy nougat on its 
mind. Nay-sayers have dismissed this as 
dismissable citing, "I think it might be 
just an inflatable polar bear, actually." 
The young gun was unavailable for a 
Young Guns 2 screening that took place 
in my basement a few months ago and I 
haven't forgiven him since. Seriously, 
Mark, I don't know what's up. We used to be so close and now you're acting all</blockquote>
*This is accompanied by a picture of some [[Wikipedia:Atlanta Braves|Atlanta Braves]] (one of which is [[LEMKE|Mark Lemke]]) on a baseball field with a polar bear digitally added in the background.
*When Strong Sad falls into the [[Kiddie Pool|wading pool]] the second time, the sign reads "shark pond" for one frame, and then switches back to "[[pie]] factory".
*Right after Strong Sad falls into the "shark pond", after Strong Bad is edited back in, you can see one of the oven mitts just behind the "pond." (It's easier to see in the Flash file.)
*The scene does appear three-dimensional, to a degree, if one looks through [[Wikipedia:Stereoscopy#3D glasses|3D glasses]].
**For the effect to work, the blue filter has to be over the left eye. Most glasses would have to be turned around to achieve this.
**The blue and red parts of the image are not horizontally aligned. This will make most people nauseated when they view the scene with 3D glasses.

===Remarks===
*The paper bag on Strong Sad's head has a picture of Strong Bad without the trademark sunglasses, even though he's supposed to look like Dangeresque.
*Strong Sad's belly button is missing, possibly because he's standing in for Strong Bad, whose belly button is not visible.
*The reflection lines on Bubs's character's monocle's reflection lines look exactly like the ones on Coach Z's Z emblem.
*In the scene where Dangeresque is holding the ping pong paddle half of Homestar is seen standing there next to the tape, but it's not mentioned who he is playing. Even though, in Dangeresque 1 he already had a character that was supposedly already made before Dangeresque 2.

===Goofs===
*When the scene turns 3-D, Strong Bad's reflection has the colors in the same order as his non-reflected self, which makes his reflection appear in front of the screen. But to be reflected properly (behind the screen) the red should be to the left of the blue.
*The diskette Strong Bad offers during the Easter egg is floating in midair, not being held by a hand.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad is wearing the oven mitts from the [[In Search Of The Yello Dello]] cartoon, the [[Homestar Quiz]], and [[halloweener]].
*The monocle Bubs wears is similar to the monocles of [[The Announcer]] and [[The Barbershop Trio]].
*The [[Heavy Lourde]] that falls on Strong Sad's head originally appeared in [[homsar]].

===Real-World References===
*The baseball field in the newspaper photo is [[Wikipedia: Fenway Park|Fenway Park]].
*Coach Z (Renaldo's) turban with downturned moon and star and fez hat are similar to the uniform worn by the [[Wikipedia:Shriners|Shriners of North America]].
*According to the commentary on the DVD, the "[[Pie Factory]]" is a reference to the name of the second level of the arcade game [[Wikipedia:Donkey Kong (arcade game)|''Donkey Kong'']], which was omitted from many home versions of the game, usually due to memory constraints.
*The subtitle of the movie (This time it's not Dangeresque 1) might be a take on "This time it's personal", the subtitle on Steven Spielberg's movie [[Wikipedia:Jaws 4|''Jaws 4'']].
*''[[wikipedia:Young Guns II|Young Guns II]]'', mentioned in the newspaper article, is a 1990 film.

===Fast Forward===
*The theme from the summer blockbuster ''Dangeresque 2: This Time It's Not Dangeresque 1'' (instrumental bits of which can be heard in the email) is featured on [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]].
*While ''Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective'' hasn't been released (or even started on) yet, loyal Dangeresque fans were offered the Digitally Remastered DVD Version of ''Dangeresque 1: Dangeresque, Too?!'' as a cop-out in [[dangeresque 3]].
**Also, in [[rock opera]], a Dangeresque ice show is referred to, called ''Dangeresque: Put 'Em On Ice!''
**A movie poster for ''Dangeresque 3'' is shown in the movie theatre lobby in [[the movies]]. It is worth noting that it has no fixed release date.

== DVD Version ==
*The way to access the Easter eggs has changed slightly. The Strong Bad icon on the center-right takes you to the first Easter egg, while the Strong Bad icon on the center-left takes you to the flying diskettes.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
**Note that the actual cartoon dialogue in the background is improperly synced to the toon during the commentary.
===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' Uh, do...do your impression of the guy from the Lord of The Rings Commentary, Mike. That effects guy.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Laughs} {imitating "the effects guy"}'' We were going to go to New Zealand and write. ''{Himself again, laughing}'' What's that guy's name, Richard—

'''MATT:''' Taylor. Richard Taylor

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. He's a good guy. ''{imitating Richard Taylor}'' Gollum really surpassed everything that had come before him...in effects.

'''MATT:''' ''{Laughs}'' Um, sounds kinda like Robin Leach.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' Yeah, that sounds—

'''MIKE:''' Um... ''{Laughs again}'' Uh, so, this is where Dangeresque came from, eh, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' That's true. Dangeresque.

'''MATT:''' What was his name originally, Danger Man, but then we found out there was already some other thing called that?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, with Patrick McGoohan.

'''MATT:''' James Doohan.

'''MIKE:''' Uh, maybe that—

'''MATT:''' Well, there's the Lemerke...Lemke. Mark Lemke, everyone. Mark Lemke, from the Atlanta Braves. There you go.

'''MIKE:''' Uh, so there's Renaldo with the turban and the Fez.

'''MATT:''' That was our friend Chris's tattoo for the New Orleans Police. The little emblem with the star and the moon.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. Uh, later on the Shark Pond becomes the Pie Factory. ''{Matt laughs}'' Which is a reference to the fourth board in Donkey Kong.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Which is clearly supposed to be cement, right?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. It's amazing, because—

''{unintelligible}''

'''MATT:''' —the graphics weren't very conducive ''{Mike laughs}'' as to making you think of cement.

'''MIKE:''' It didn't really look any more like pies than they did cement.

'''MATT:''' Eh, but they were in those like, what looked like a pie tin.

''{Pause}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, I don't know what else to say.

'''MIKE:''' Look, it flashed.

'''MATT:''' Shark Factory. Or Shark Pit. Or—

'''MIKE:''' —pond—

'''MATT:''' —for a second there. It was poor, poor flashing

'''MIKE:''' Yes. On our part. Um, we were going to do the whole episode in 3D at one point.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. It was good that we didn't. We would've given everyone a headache. I'm leaning too close again.

'''MIKE:''' Sorry.

'''MATT:''' Well, it's my fault.

===Fun Facts===
*Mike imitates [[Wikipedia:Richard Taylor|Richard Taylor]], founder of [[Wikipedia:Weta Workshop|Weta Workshop]], the company which handled all of the props and costumes for [[Wikipedia:The Lord of the Rings movie trilogy|The Lord of the Rings movies]]. Taylor spoke in the commentaries for the DVD releases of these movies.
*[[Wikipedia:Gollum|Gollum]] is a character from The Lord of the Rings. In the movies, the character was portrayed with computer animation overlaid on actor [[Wiki:Andy Serkis|Andy Serkis']] performance, and was considered a groundbreaking special effect, which Mike references in his fake commentary.
*[[Wikipedia:Robin Leach|Robin Leach]] was the host of [[Wikipedia:Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous|Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous]].
*[[Wikipedia:Danger Man|''Danger Man'']] was a British television series about a secret agent played by [[Wikipedia:Patrick McGoohan|Patrick McGoohan]].
*[[Wikipedia:James Doohan|James Doohan]] was an actor most famous for playing Chief Engineer Montgomery "[[Wikipedia:Montgomery Scott|Scotty]]" Scott on [[Wikipedia:Star Trek|Star Trek]].
*The Brothers Chaps incorrectly state that the fourth level of ''Donkey Kong'' is the pie factory. It is actually the second level.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail80.html|watch "stunt double"]]
*[[HR:sbemail80.swf|view the Flash file for "stunt double"]]

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Talk:Couch Mumbling

Foxby — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:38:35 GMT

Foxby: /**/Pilot Wings

Talk:guitar

Foxby — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:46:16 GMT

Foxby: /* How Does Strong Bad Play Hot Lixx With Boxing Gloves? */

==Meedly Meedly MEEEE==
Methinks this is a reference to the X-men Cartoon theme song ~Kirch

I'd put all my Strongbadia currency on "Highway Star" by Deep Purple. Listen to the solo 4m 30s into the song. ~Spiderbaby

:Either way, Saban shows have kick-awesome 'lixx.

==Heart Talk==
Why does the Heart reference not listed when several contributors have added it?
-concerned strong bad fan

*Because there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference, so it's probably just a general reference to rhythm guitar rather than a reference to a specific song. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:56, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*What are you thinking? Have you heard Barracuda? This is a wrong call, and I think the Barracuda reference should be in. Nobody who has heard Barracuda would think that Strong Bad was imitating Bonanza. I fail to see any other song that it could be! P.S. It is much more apparent that Strong Bad's rhythm guitar is from Barracuda than it is that the tiny strings are from Creeping Death. So if we can't have Barracuda maybe we should delete Creeping Death as well?
**Well, then, [[STUFF]] it if it matters to you. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 08:37, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*I agree with her.I was listening to Barracuda over the weekend,and went,"Oh dude!That opening sounds like one of the guitar-y things from the email guitar!"I swear,ask my mom.

==Closed STUFF==
===That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart (DECLINED)===
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINE''' It sounds absolutely NOTHING like the song or at least very little. The only reason they're similiar is becasue they're both rhythm guitar. Case closed.
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of songs it could be referencing. Unless the line or section of the toon in question is very obviously referring to something, it seems too conjectural to claim it as a reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Anonymous, GET OVER YOURSELF please. '''Decline, belindas''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 13:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Can you say, "uh-DECLINE"?''' Who cares what song it sounds a little like? Resemblance doesn't equal reference. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
====Revisit?====
For what it's worth, when I heard [http://www.zshare.net/audio/barracuda-fergie-mp3.html the song] in ''Shrek the Third'' tonight, I immediately thought of this email. I stayed through the credits to find out the name. I was both pleased and disappointed to already find it discussed here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:33, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

==homestartotcom?==
down in the commentary section, near the end. Are you guys sure that's right?

==Death Metal==
D'ya think the jugga jigga wuggas in death metal are a reference to this toon?
:We had a [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/death metal#A Brief History of Jigga Juggas|vote]] on it, and it was decided that they weren't a reference. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Abductors (?) ==

I'd like to suggest as an additional reference the Judas Priest song 'Abductors', from their 1997 album Jugulator. In the song Tim Owens screams out "and they come in the niiiiiiiiight", essentially the way SB does. Maybe someone else is familiar with this song and would care to comment?

==References==
I think it's safe to say that the ambiguous "guitar noises" are not references to any specific song.--[[User:68.60.19.184|68.60.19.184]] 04:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

== How Does Strong Bad Play Hot Lixx With Boxing Gloves? ==

I just wanted to point this out, and perhaps it should be mentioned in the main Guitar article-- it seems it could be a reference to the "How do you type with boxing gloves?" joke.
:Probably not a deliberate reference, but it might make a good email for Strong Bad not to answer. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:05, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
True, but Strong Bad hasn't not answered an email for a long time (since the days of... uh, the sbemail we're discussing, except for a few here and there). I doubt they're going to do another one for a while (until they can't find a good email, at least). Eh well. xP

User:Foxby

Foxby — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:42:18 GMT

Foxby: New page: Hm... well, I've been a fan of the Homestar 'site for over a year or two now, my first new 'toon being "pom pom". And... I guess that's it. D:

Hm... well, I've been a fan of the Homestar 'site for over a year or two now, my first new 'toon being "pom pom". And... I guess that's it. D:

Talk:guitar

Foxby — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:32:12 GMT

Foxby: /**/How Does Strong Bad Play Hot Lixx With Boxing Gloves?